From ivg2 at cornell.edu Wed Feb 1 00:16:07 2006 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:16:07 -0500 Subject: SATA question Message-ID: <43DFFDC7.8040107@cornell.edu> I'm confused... is my sata drive (ata3 below) running at the proper speed? This is a western digital SATA 2 drive. The messages below mention both 3.0Gbps and UDMA/133, which I don't understand. hdparm -I says udma6 is being used. Testing my old drive, with this new SATA II one shows very similar performance, near 60MB/s (via hdparm -Tt). Is this unusual? I would expect some kind of improvement... This is an nforce4 chipset, A8N-SLI motherboard. =========================== ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x9E0 ctl 0xBE2 bmdma 0xC400 irq 225 ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x960 ctl 0xB62 bmdma 0xC408 irq 225 ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123) ata3: dev 0 cfg 49:2f00 82:746b 83:7f01 84:4023 85:7469 86:3e01 87:4023 88:407f ata3: dev 0 ATA-7, max UDMA/133, 390721968 sectors: LBA48 nv_sata: Primary device added nv_sata: Primary device removed nv_sata: Secondary device added nv_sata: Secondary device removed ata3: dev 0 configured for UDMA/133 scsi2 : sata_nv ata4: SATA link down (SStatus 0) scsi3 : sata_nv Vendor: ATA Model: WDC WD2000JS-55M Rev: 02.0 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05 SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB) sda: Write Protect is off sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB) sda: Write Protect is off sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda From rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net Wed Feb 1 00:23:07 2006 From: rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net (Robert Nichols) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:23:07 -0600 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ian Burrell wrote: > On 1/31/06, Miles Lane wrote: > >>I cannot understand why on earth xorg or Gnome >>has been changed to render new application behind >>gnome-terminal. Every time I run a program (surprise!) >>I want to use it. I don't want to keep playing around >>with gnome-terminal. So, can we please strip this >>change out of Fedora Core? >> > > > I much prefer the new behavior. I used to always have trouble typing > going into the wrong window when a new application started while I was > typing into another. No more sending the root password over IM. > Personally, I think apps should show above but never ever take focus. > I am pretty sure apps can say that their modal dialogs should show > above and get focus so they don't end up hidden. The problem I have with that is that the popup dialogs are the worst offenders. I'll be typing into a word processor, and a long running background process pops up a dialog saying, "An unexpected error has occurred. Delete the database?" just as I'm about to type . Bye-bye database! -- Bob Nichols Yes, "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 00:36:24 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:36:24 -0500 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> On 1/31/06, Robert Nichols wrote: > The problem I have with that is that the popup dialogs are the > worst offenders. I'll be typing into a word processor, and a > long running background process pops up a dialog saying, "An > unexpected error has occurred. Delete the database?" just as > I'm about to type . Bye-bye database! but at the same time... having the pop up dialogs "pop-under" terminal windows in a way that you can't see them at all is also a problem. -jef"that's not rain.. that's the sky falling"spaleta From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Wed Feb 1 00:42:51 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:42:51 -0500 Subject: bad gnome-applets dependencies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43E0040B.2010106@insight.rr.com> Jason Dravet wrote: > A patch to move gnome applets to use gstreamer 0.10 has been accepted in > gnome upstream. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326285 > for the details. As such the gnome applets dependencies should be > updated. I am using gnome-applets-2.13.3-2. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179485 > > Thanks, > Jason > > This integration, will it help with this gweather bug? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327406 Jim From nutello at sweetness.com Wed Feb 1 01:11:50 2006 From: nutello at sweetness.com (Rudi Chiarito) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 02:11:50 +0100 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060201011150.GA27561@plain.rackshack.net> On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 06:23:07PM -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: > The problem I have with that is that the popup dialogs are the > worst offenders. I'll be typing into a word processor, and a > long running background process pops up a dialog saying, "An > unexpected error has occurred. Delete the database?" just as > I'm about to type . Bye-bye database! I think Firefox disables the buttons in dialogs that are not focused, so you don't end up activating buttons by mistake when you were simply trying to focus the dialog (especially if the dialog is for the most part covered). You click once to focus and once again to select the button. The extension installation dialog keeps its crucial button ('Install') disabled until a timeout of a few seconds occurs. This can help a lot with scenarios like yours. And the countdown doesn't even start if the dialog is not focused. Maybe all dialogs whose actions can't be undone should behave like that. Application windows shouldn't need to have their controls disabled while unfocused. -- Rudi From miles.lane at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 01:23:20 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:23:20 -0800 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 1/31/06, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 1/31/06, Robert Nichols wrote: > > The problem I have with that is that the popup dialogs are the > > worst offenders. I'll be typing into a word processor, and a > > long running background process pops up a dialog saying, "An > > unexpected error has occurred. Delete the database?" just as > > I'm about to type . Bye-bye database! > > but at the same time... having the pop up dialogs "pop-under" terminal > windows in a way that you can't see them at all is also a problem. Here's an example, the nm-applet has a keyring manager dialog that opens when it starts up. This dialog should be rendered above other windows, since it requires user input for important system functionality to be set up (wireless networking). Since this change, I see a flash when nm-applet starts, then I have to dig around to get to the dialog. The most aggrevating example, though, is when I start ANY application from gnome-terminal (emacs, amarok, firefox, whatever). I now have to click on the application window to give it focus. I hate this! I, personally, think it is brain-dead to not give focus to applications when they start (with the exception of dialogs which should be "system modal" in Windows parlance). Miles From miles.lane at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 01:29:36 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:29:36 -0800 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 1/31/06, Ian Burrell wrote: [...] > I much prefer the new behavior. I used to always have trouble typing > going into the wrong window when a new application started while I was > typing into another. No more sending the root password over IM. > Personally, I think apps should show above but never ever take focus. > I am pretty sure apps can say that their modal dialogs should show > above and get focus so they don't end up hidden. > > This is the upstream behavior of metacity 2.10. I don't think there > is a gconf key to customzie the behavior. You could use a different > window manager which can be customized. I think kwin, the KDE window > manager, allows focus stealing prevention to be customized. This is exactly the sort of thing that drives me nuts with Gnome. The Ximian HIG/usability folks come up with some whacko default and then make it impossible for users to work around it. Who is it who decided to change this Metacity behavior? I cannot believe that this is going to be a usability benefit for most users. Argh! This may drive me back to KDE again. Miles From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Wed Feb 1 01:32:38 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:32:38 +0800 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E00FB6.7090001@herakles.homelinux.org> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > > but at the same time... having the pop up dialogs "pop-under" terminal > windows in a way that you can't see them at all is also a problem. Indeed. One of the cuter problems I had on OS/2 a few times was two programs crashing and bringing up two system-modal dialogues. The bad thing about that was the one with focus was not the one on tim, and as they were system-modal the user couldn't change focus (and couldn't drag one out of the way either). Ultimately I hit on the idea of pressing the space-bar to signal "Ok." OS X has a good way of handling it: if an application pops up a dialogue, its icon on the task-bar (equivalent) starts dancing, waving its hands and generally showing excitement. (Well, I do exagerate a little, but it's hard to miss but doesn't actually get in the way). KDE apps have been starting behind for some time, and after a while I decided it was deliberate and good. As I started trying to respond to this, I had Mozilla get in the front twice, once when it started and once when the site tried to set a cookie. It's annoying. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Wed Feb 1 01:40:09 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:40:09 +0800 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43E01179.30808@herakles.homelinux.org> Miles Lane wrote: >>This is the upstream behavior of metacity 2.10. I don't think there >>is a gconf key to customzie the behavior. You could use a different >>window manager which can be customized. I think kwin, the KDE window >>manager, allows focus stealing prevention to be customized. > > > This is exactly the sort of thing that drives me nuts with Gnome. > The Ximian HIG/usability folks come up with some whacko default > and then make it impossible for users to work around it. > Who is it who decided to change this Metacity behavior? > I cannot believe that this is going to be a usability benefit for most > users. Argh! This may drive me back to KDE again. I don't do things serially: a little while ago I clicked a link in some email, the went on to other mail (probably in a different client, I use Mozilla Mail and Thunderbird about equally). I really don't want Mozilla taking me away from reading my email, I'll get to the website in my own time. One of the most annoying assumptions programmers for Windows seem to assume is people always do things serially. "Don't do anything else while you burn a CD." "You can't do anything else while you read the contents of your Olympus Digital Voice Recorder." Bah. I currently have stuff open on seven desktops in KDE and often have more. My window list currently runs to two columns and often to more. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From nutello at sweetness.com Wed Feb 1 02:31:21 2006 From: nutello at sweetness.com (Rudi Chiarito) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 03:31:21 +0100 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: References: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060201023121.GB27561@plain.rackshack.net> On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 05:23:20PM -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > The most aggrevating example, though, is when I start ANY application > from gnome-terminal (emacs, amarok, firefox, whatever). I now have to > click on the application window to give it focus. I hate this! I, > personally, think it is brain-dead to not give focus to applications > when they start (with the exception of dialogs which should be "system > modal" in Windows parlance). What if you start something in the background in your shell? GNOME has no way to know whether you just typed "emacs" or "emacs &". In the latter case you don't necessarily want the focus transferred to Emacs. Anyway, do you do anything with gnome-terminal or any other program after you start the application, but before its window actually opens? Metacity's focus-stealing prevention is supposed to kick in only if you interact with anything else after you started the application - the new window then will not grab the focus. It's not supposed to be unconditional, unless there's a bug that ought to be reported. What happens if you enter "emacs" and keep your hands away from the mouse and the keyboard? -- Rudi From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed Feb 1 02:41:49 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:41:49 -0500 Subject: nm-applet problems with selinux In-Reply-To: <1138464308.2554.1.camel@zaphod.graze.net> References: <1138464308.2554.1.camel@zaphod.graze.net> Message-ID: <43E01FED.6000300@redhat.com> Brian C. huffman wrote: > After today's update, nm-applet can't find my wireless device. This > shows up in /var/log/messages: > > Jan 28 10:33:41 xyz NetworkManager: > nm_dbus_get_networks_cb (): nm-dbus-nmi.c:527 (nm_dbus_get_networks_cb): > error received: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied - An SELinux > policy prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient > (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo" > member "getNetworks" error name "(unset)" destination > "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo"). > > Anyone know a workaround? I disabled selinux and it works fine. > > thanks, > Brian > > Updating policy and restarting messagebus should clear this up. From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed Feb 1 02:44:56 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:44:56 -0500 Subject: SELinux and NSS [was: Problem with NSS update - Firefox, Evolution] In-Reply-To: <8767947e0601281249w13ed78d9n509371d7fd8b7b59@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0601281249w13ed78d9n509371d7fd8b7b59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E020A8.5020706@redhat.com> Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 1/28/06, Jonathan Berry wrote: > >> On 1/28/06, Jonathan Berry wrote: >> setsebool -P allow_execmem=1 >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just installed FC5T2 x86_64 to test it out. Install went smoothly >>> and I just finished up all the updates. I seem to be having an issue >>> with the NSS update: >>> # grep -i nss /var/log/yum.log >>> Jan 28 00:06:03 Updated: nss.x86_64 3.11-3 >>> Jan 28 00:07:25 Updated: nss.i386 3.11-3 >>> Jan 28 00:20:14 Updated: nss_ldap.i386 248-1 >>> Jan 28 00:20:18 Updated: nss_ldap.x86_64 248-1 >>> >>> I have seen two symptoms of some problem thus far in Firefox and >>> Evolution. Firefox starts with a warning that it could not initialize >>> the security component (something to that effect) and gives some >>> statement that it could be a file permissions problem in the profile >>> directory. Perms look to be okay in ~/.mozilla/firefox/ and I get no >>> SELinux or other messages. Evolution flat refuses to run. The >>> problem is more apparent from the command line: >>> $ evolution >>> (evolution:3437): evolution-smime-WARNING **: Failed all methods for >>> initializing NSS >>> (evolution:3437): camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS >>> >>> Any ideas? Time for a bugzilla entry? (probably after I sleep some...) >>> >> More information... >> >> I just tried reinstalling the original nss pacakges and I am still >> having issues. Firefox gives the security warning and will not do any >> ssl stuff (not good!) and evolution will not start. >> $ rpm -qa nss{,_ldap} >> nss_ldap-244-2.1.x86_64 >> nss-3.11-2.x86_64 >> nss_ldap-244-2.1.i386 >> nss-3.11-2.i386 >> >> I've tried rebooting and even booting the original kernel and get the >> same results. Is anyone else seeing this? >> > > Okay, well, I keep responding to myself... > > This now seems to be related to SELinux somehow. If I issue a > "setenforce 0" command, then Firefox and SSL work just fine, Evolution > starts, and all is well. With enforcing disabled, when I start > Firefox or Evolution, I get some "avc: granted { execmem }" messages > in audit.log relating to the programs. Unfortunately, I do not get > any failure or otherwise messages in audit.log when SELinux is on. > FC5T2 x86_64 fully updated as of today. > $ rpm -qa | grep selinux > libselinux-devel-1.29.6-1.x86_64 > libselinux-python-1.29.6-1.x86_64 > selinux-policy-2.2.8-1.noarch > selinux-policy-targeted-2.2.8-1.noarch > libselinux-1.29.6-1.x86_64 > libselinux-1.29.6-1.i386 > > Below I will post the AVC messages that I get when starting Evolution > and Firefox with SELinux off. I do not get any messages with SELinux > enabled (ie, enforcing). I'll also give the ls -Z output for the NSS > stuff. Is no one else seeing this? Should I go ahead and bugzilla > this (now that I can actually access https, heh)? > > Jonathan > > Lots of info follows. > > $ ls -Z `rpm -ql nss` > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib64/libfreebl3.chk > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib64/libfreebl3.so > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib64/libnss3.so > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib64/libnssckbi.so > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib64/libsmime3.so > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib64/libsoftokn3.chk > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib64/libsoftokn3.so > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib64/libssl3.so > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib/libfreebl3.chk > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib/libfreebl3.so > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib/libnss3.so > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib/libnssckbi.so > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib/libsmime3.so > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib/libsoftokn3.chk > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib/libsoftokn3.so > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib/libssl3.so > > $ ls -Z `rpm -ql nss_ldap` > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:etc_t /etc/ldap.conf > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:etc_t /etc/ldap.conf > -rwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /lib64/libnss_ldap-2.3.90.so > lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /lib64/libnss_ldap.so.2 -> libnss_ldap-2.3.90.so > -rwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /lib64/security/pam_ldap.so > -rwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /lib/libnss_ldap-2.3.90.so > lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /lib/libnss_ldap.so.2 -> libnss_ldap-2.3.90.so > -rwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /lib/security/pam_ldap.so > lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib64/libnss_ldap.so -> ../../lib64/libnss_ldap.so.2 > lrwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:lib_t > /usr/lib/libnss_ldap.so -> ../../lib/libnss_ldap.so.2 > [... snip tons more files with perms: -rw-r--r-- root root > system_u:object_r:usr_t] > > I get the following AVC messages when starting Evolution with SELinux off: > type=AVC msg=audit(1138480597.454:108): avc: granted { execmem } for > pid=3745 comm="evolution" scontext=user_u:system_r:unco > nfined_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process > type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1138480597.454:108): arch=c000003e syscall=10 > success=yes exit=0 a0=7fffffce9000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=4 > items=0 pid=3745 auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 > fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="evolution" exe= > "/usr/bin/evolution-2.6" > type=AVC msg=audit(1138480597.558:109): avc: granted { execmem } for > pid=3745 comm="evolution" scontext=user_u:system_r:unco > nfined_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process > type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1138480597.558:109): arch=c000003e syscall=9 > success=yes exit=1073741824 a0=0 a1=a01000 a2=7 a3=62 items > =0 pid=3745 auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 > fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="evolution" exe="/usr/ > bin/evolution-2.6" > type=AVC msg=audit(1138480597.590:110): avc: granted { execmem } for > pid=3761 comm="evolution" scontext=user_u:system_r:unco > nfined_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process > type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1138480597.590:110): arch=c000003e syscall=9 > success=yes exit=1084231680 a0=0 a1=a01000 a2=7 a3=62 items > =0 pid=3761 auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 > fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="evolution" exe="/usr/ > bin/evolution-2.6" > type=AVC msg=audit(1138480597.630:111): avc: granted { execmem } for > pid=3745 comm="evolution" scontext=user_u:system_r:unco > nfined_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process > type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1138480597.630:111): arch=c000003e syscall=9 > success=yes exit=1094721536 a0=0 a1=a01000 a2=7 a3=62 items > =0 pid=3745 auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 > fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="evolution" exe="/usr/ > bin/evolution-2.6" > type=AVC msg=audit(1138480598.770:112): avc: granted { execmem } for > pid=3745 comm="evolution" scontext=user_u:system_r:unco > nfined_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process > type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1138480598.770:112): arch=c000003e syscall=9 > success=yes exit=1105211392 a0=0 a1=a01000 a2=7 a3=62 items > =0 pid=3745 auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 > fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="evolution" exe="/usr/ > bin/evolution-2.6" > type=AVC msg=audit(1138480598.878:113): avc: granted { execmem } for > pid=3745 comm="evolution" scontext=user_u:system_r:unco > nfined_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process > type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1138480598.878:113): arch=c000003e syscall=9 > success=yes exit=1115701248 a0=0 a1=a01000 a2=7 a3=62 items > =0 pid=3745 auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 > fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="evolution" exe="/usr/ > bin/evolution-2.6" > > I get the following AVC messages when starting Firefox with SELinux off: > type=AVC msg=audit(1138480668.242:114): avc: granted { execmem } for > pid=3802 comm="firefox-bin" scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process > type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1138480668.242:114): arch=c000003e syscall=10 > success=yes exit=0 a0=7fffffa74000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=4 items=0 > pid=3802 auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 > egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="firefox-bin" > exe="/usr/lib64/firefox-1.5/firefox-bin" > type=AVC msg=audit(1138480668.242:115): avc: granted { execmem } for > pid=3802 comm="firefox-bin" scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process > type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1138480668.242:115): arch=c000003e syscall=10 > success=yes exit=0 a0=41403000 a1=a00000 a2=7 a3=4 items=0 pid=3802 > auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 > sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="firefox-bin" > exe="/usr/lib64/firefox-1.5/firefox-bin" > type=AVC msg=audit(1138480668.242:116): avc: granted { execmem } for > pid=3802 comm="firefox-bin" scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process > type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1138480668.242:116): arch=c000003e syscall=10 > success=yes exit=0 a0=40a02000 a1=a00000 a2=7 a3=4 items=0 pid=3802 > auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 > sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="firefox-bin" > exe="/usr/lib64/firefox-1.5/firefox-bin" > type=AVC msg=audit(1138480668.242:117): avc: granted { execmem } for > pid=3802 comm="firefox-bin" scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process > type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1138480668.242:117): arch=c000003e syscall=10 > success=yes exit=0 a0=40001000 a1=a00000 a2=7 a3=4 items=0 pid=3802 > auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 > sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="firefox-bin" > exe="/usr/lib64/firefox-1.5/firefox-bin" > type=AVC msg=audit(1138480668.502:118): avc: granted { execmem } for > pid=3803 comm="firefox-bin" scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process > type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1138480668.502:118): arch=c000003e syscall=9 > success=yes exit=1105211392 a0=0 a1=a01000 a2=7 a3=62 items=0 pid=3803 > auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 > sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="firefox-bin" > exe="/usr/lib64/firefox-1.5/firefox-bin" > > From vladimir at acm.org Wed Feb 1 02:46:25 2006 From: vladimir at acm.org (Vladimir G. Ivanovic) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:46:25 -0800 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: References: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1138761985.11756.23.camel@bach.leonora.org> The way to solve this dilemma is to provide a user option to change the behavior. Everyone will then be happy, or at least happier, and I needn't impose my preferences on others. --- Vladimir On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 17:23 -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > On 1/31/06, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On 1/31/06, Robert Nichols wrote: > > > The problem I have with that is that the popup dialogs are the > > > worst offenders. I'll be typing into a word processor, and a > > > long running background process pops up a dialog saying, "An > > > unexpected error has occurred. Delete the database?" just as > > > I'm about to type . Bye-bye database! > > > > but at the same time... having the pop up dialogs "pop-under" terminal > > windows in a way that you can't see them at all is also a problem. > > Here's an example, the nm-applet has a keyring manager dialog that > opens when it starts up. This dialog should be rendered above other > windows, since it requires user input for important system > functionality to be set up (wireless networking). Since this change, > I see a flash when nm-applet starts, then I have to dig around to get > to the dialog. > > The most aggrevating example, though, is when I start ANY application > from gnome-terminal (emacs, amarok, firefox, whatever). I now have to > click on the application window to give it focus. I hate this! I, > personally, think it is brain-dead to not give focus to applications > when they start (with the exception of dialogs which should be "system > modal" in Windows parlance). > > Miles > -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic Palo Alto, CA 94306 +1 650 678 8014 From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 02:51:17 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:51:17 -0500 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <20060201023121.GB27561@plain.rackshack.net> References: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> <20060201023121.GB27561@plain.rackshack.net> Message-ID: <604aa7910601311851n60f10b64t63fd70bcb1df4cfa@mail.gmail.com> On 1/31/06, Rudi Chiarito wrote: > Anyway, do you do anything with gnome-terminal or any other program > after you start the application, but before its window actually opens? > Metacity's focus-stealing prevention is supposed to kick in only if you > interact with anything else after you started the application - the new > window then will not grab the focus. It's not supposed to be > unconditional, unless there's a bug that ought to be reported. Its defnitely not working like you describe it should. metacity is unconditionally prefering to keep the focus on the terminal, for whatever application i start from the terminal even if all i do is hit enter..whether the mouse is over the terminal or not...whether or not i touch anything at all before the program opens My favorite side-effect of focus stealing protection is starting mplayer in fullscreen mode from the terminal and having the focus stealing protection not only have mplayer's full screen window show up under the gnome-terminal.. but "under" the gnome-panel as a well. It's quite amusing. -jef From katzj at redhat.com Wed Feb 1 02:52:50 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:52:50 -0500 Subject: pirut not starting In-Reply-To: <43DFE400.30001@mindspring.com> References: <43DFE400.30001@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <1138762370.7447.28.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 17:26 -0500, Richard Hally wrote: > After using pirut once today, it will not start again. > The first time I used it, it worked correctly until it was at the end of > an update. At the point where it gave a message box that said "update > completed successfully" I clicked on the "ok" button and the whole > application disappeared(not just the message box). And now when I try to > start in from a terminal it returns "segmentation fault". A segmentation fault is definitely not expected... can you get a stack trace from gdb for what's happening?[1] > Has anyone seen this? Is there a lockfile(or something like that) that I > can reset or remove to get pirut working again? No lock file, but the segfault is definitely suspicious Jeremy [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces From dfordham at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 04:04:13 2006 From: dfordham at gmail.com (Doug Fordham) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:04:13 -0500 Subject: Evolution - Update In-Reply-To: <1138763033.7447.34.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43DFDE77.3000907@cornell.edu> <1138763033.7447.34.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43E0333D.4000704@gmail.com> Confirmed Evolution freeze after today's update: Kernel -- 2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 Starting Evolution from the Applications Menu, and command line produce the same result...a total freeze of Evolution. Clicking the "x" on the GUI frame produces a message" Warning The window Evolution-Fedora-dev is not responding. Forcing this application to quit will cause you to lose any unsaved changes. XCancel Force Quit Choosing Cancel, obviously does nothing; Force Quit terminates the application... Output through gdb: (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/evolution Reading symbols from shared object read from target memory...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded system supplied DSO at 0xa7b000 [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread -1208346432 (LWP 4712)] CalDAV Eplugin starting up ... Detaching after fork from child process 4716. (evolution:4712): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL parameter. [New Thread -1256223840 (LWP 4717)] [New Thread -1266713696 (LWP 4718)] [New Thread -1277203552 (LWP 4719)] [Thread -1277203552 (LWP 4719) exited] libnm_glib_get_nm_state(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown raised: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files [New Thread -1277203552 (LWP 4720)] [Thread -1266713696 (LWP 4718) exited] libnm_glib_get_nm_state(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown raised: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files [New Thread -1266713696 (LWP 4721)] (evolution:4712): Bonobo-WARNING **: Can't find '/usr/lib/evolution/2.6/plugins/org-gnome-mail-to-task.xml' to load ui from [New Thread -1287754848 (LWP 4723)] [New Thread -1298642016 (LWP 4724)] *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/evolution: free(): invalid pointer: 0x0994dc20 *** ======= Backtrace: ========= /lib/libc.so.6[0xb7c948] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x79)[0xb7fe4d] /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_free+0x2d)[0x7bcac04] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15(html_text_slave_get_glyph_items+0x12f)[0xd2a078] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15[0xd2afec] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15(html_object_draw+0x42)[0xd0fbb4] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15[0xcdfefa] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15[0xce3245] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15(html_object_draw+0x42)[0xd0fbb4] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15[0xcdfefa] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15[0xce7246] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15(html_object_draw+0x42)[0xd0fbb4] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15[0xcdfefa] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15[0xce7246] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15(html_object_draw+0x42)[0xd0fbb4] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15[0xcfed75] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15(html_engine_expose+0x7c)[0xcff628] /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-3.8.so.15[0xcd8789] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x7df9673] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0x5796a5] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x11c)[0x57adbd] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0x58c5c1] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x6d1)[0x58d2b3] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0x58d6a5] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x7ed69b0] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_main_do_event+0x4fc)[0x7df4e82] /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x7c5abbf] /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0(gdk_window_process_all_updates+0x95)[0x7c5ad66] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x7d6db46] /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0[0x7bc242e] /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_main_context_dispatch+0x16e)[0x7bc3c33] /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0[0x7bc6c73] /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_main_loop_run+0x1a7)[0x7bc701c] /usr/lib/libbonobo-2.so.0(bonobo_main+0x63)[0x7ee649] /usr/bin/evolution[0x805d69f] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc)[0xb2e6b4] /usr/bin/evolution[0x804fe31] ======= Memory map: ======== 00111000-00115000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2362703 /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0.902.3 00115000-00116000 rwxp 00003000 fd:00 2362703 /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0.902.3 00116000-0012a000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 3175983 /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libevolution-a11y.so.0.0.0 0012a000-0012b000 rwxp 00014000 fd:00 3175983 /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libevolution-a11y.so.0.0.0 0012b000-0015b000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 3175982 /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libeutil.so.0.0.0 0015b000-0015d000 rwxp 00030000 fd:00 3175982 /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libeutil.so.0.0.0 0015d000-0018d000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2377798 /usr/lib/libebook-1.2.so.5.2.0 0018d000-00191000 rwxp 00030000 fd:00 2377798 /usr/lib/libebook-1.2.so.5.2.0 00191000-001c4000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2375887 /usr/lib/libnspr4.so 001c4000-001c5000 rwxp 00033000 fd:00 2375887 /usr/lib/libnspr4.so 001c5000-001c7000 rwxp 001c5000 00:00 0 001c7000-001d5000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2879844 /lib/libpthread-2.3.90.so 001d5000-001d6000 r-xp 0000d000 fd:00 2879844 /lib/libpthread-2.3.90.so 001d6000-001d7000 rwxp 0000e000 fd:00 2879844 /lib/libpthread-2.3.90.so 001d7000-001d9000 rwxp 001d7000 00:00 0 001d9000-001da000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 3239846 /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/plugins/liborg-gnome-default-mailer.so 001da000-001db000 rwxp 00000000 fd:00 3239846 /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/plugins/liborg-gnome-default-mailer.so 001db000-001df000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 3175981 /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libetimezonedialog.so.0.0.0 001df000-001e0000 rwxp 00003000 fd:00 3175981 /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libetimezonedialog.so.0.0.0 001e0000-00273000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2377803 /usr/lib/libecal-1.2.so.3.2.6 00273000-00282000 rwxp 00092000 fd:00 2377803 /usr/lib/libecal-1.2.so.3.2.6 00282000-00285000 rwxp 00282000 00:00 0 00285000-0029c000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2373568 /usr/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0.0.7 0029c000-0029d000 rwxp 00017000 fd:00 2373568 /usr/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0.0.7 0029d000-002fe000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2373560 /usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.so.0.0.0002fe000-00301000 rwxp 00061000 fd:00 2373560 /usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.so.0.0.000301000-00308000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2367910 /usr/lib/libpopt.so.0.0.0 00308000-00309000 rwxp 00006000 fd:00 2367910 /usr/lib/libpopt.so.0.0.0 00309000-0031b000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2361335 /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.3 0031b000-0031c000 rwxp 00011000 fd:00 2361335 /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.3 0031c000-0031e000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2879845 /lib/libdl-2.3.90.so 0031e000-0031f000 r-xp 00001000 fd:00 2879845 /lib/libdl-2.3.90.so 0031f000-00320000 rwxp 00002000 fd:00 2879845 /lib/libdl-2.3.90.so 00320000-00322000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2879851 /lib/libcom_err.so.2.1 00322000-00323000 rwxp 00001000 fd:00 2879851 /lib/libcom_err.so.2.1 00323000-00329000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2373639 /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.17.0.6 00329000-0032a000 rwxp 00005000 fd:00 2373639 /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.17.0.6 0032a000-0032c000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2367903 /usr/lib/libkrb5support.so.0.0 0032c000-0032d000 rwxp 00002000 fd:00 2367903 /usr/lib/libkrb5support.so.0.0 0032d000-00346000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2879799 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so 00346000-00347000 r-xp 00018000 fd:00 2879799 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so 00347000-00348000 rwxp 00019000 fd:00 2879799 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so 00348000-0041a000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2377810 /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.7.0.0 0041a000-0041c000 rwxp 000d2000 fd:00 2377810 /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.7.0.0 0041c000-0041e000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2879857 /lib/libutil-2.3.90.so 0041e000-0041f000 r-xp 00001000 fd:00 2879857 /lib/libutil-2.3.90.so 0041f000-00420000 rwxp 00002000 fd:00 2879857 /lib/libutil-2.3.90.so 00420000-00421000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2420279 /usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-1.so 00421000-00423000 rwxp 00000000 fd:00 2420279 /usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-1.so 00423000-00470000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2354693 /usr/lib/libcamel-1.2.so.0.0.0 00470000-00473000 rwxp 0004d000 fd:00 2354693 /usr/lib/libcamel-1.2.so.0.0.0 00473000-004be000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2368648 /usr/lib/libORBit-2.so.0.1.0 Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. [Switching to Thread -1208346432 (LWP 4712)] 0x00a7b402 in __kernel_vsyscall () (gdb) From miles.lane at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 05:09:18 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:09:18 -0800 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <20060201023121.GB27561@plain.rackshack.net> References: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> <20060201023121.GB27561@plain.rackshack.net> Message-ID: On 1/31/06, Rudi Chiarito wrote: > On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 05:23:20PM -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > > The most aggrevating example, though, is when I start ANY application > > from gnome-terminal (emacs, amarok, firefox, whatever). I now have to > > click on the application window to give it focus. I hate this! I, > > personally, think it is brain-dead to not give focus to applications > > when they start (with the exception of dialogs which should be "system > > modal" in Windows parlance). > > What if you start something in the background in your shell? GNOME has > no way to know whether you just typed "emacs" or "emacs &". In the > latter case you don't necessarily want the focus transferred to Emacs. When I use "emacs &", it doesn't mean I want to continue what I was doing in the shell and use emacs later. In my usage, it means that I want to be _able_ to switch back and forth between emacs and shell commands, but I want to use emacs immediately. If I didn't want to interact emacs immediately, I would wait until later to start it up. > Anyway, do you do anything with gnome-terminal or any other program > after you start the application, but before its window actually opens? I have tried not doing anything until the executed program window is displayed. The program window still shows up beneath the terminal window. > Metacity's focus-stealing prevention is supposed to kick in only if you > interact with anything else after you started the application - the new > window then will not grab the focus. I am not talking about focus, I am talking about what windows are shown on top! Personally, I expect focus to always go to the top window. > It's not supposed to be > unconditional, unless there's a bug that ought to be reported. > What happens if you enter "emacs" and keep your hands away from the mouse and > the keyboard? Are you a FC developer? Have you checked the behavior? It is unconditional. So, I should file a bug, eh? Again, I think Fedora should reject this change to Metacity. I know that Redhat maintains custom kernel patches. Can we have a Metacity that doesn't implement this nutty window management? Does Fedora Core have any influence over the development decisions of the Metacity project? Are we simply at the mercy of their whims? Miles From canfield at uindy.edu Wed Feb 1 05:18:52 2006 From: canfield at uindy.edu (D Canfield) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 00:18:52 -0500 Subject: Evolution/GPilot: calendar still not synching In-Reply-To: <1138732441l.3003l.4l@niobe> References: <1138732441l.3003l.4l@niobe> Message-ID: <43E044BC.8080702@uindy.edu> Roger Grosswiler wrote: > hey, > > even after todays update, no luck with synching the calnedar under > evolution. Is there some entry at bugzilla needed? > > Roger > > --fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe:https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Most likely it's the kernel module crashing still (at least it is for me). There is a bugzilla entry with a confirmed status about this. DC From rhally at mindspring.com Wed Feb 1 05:24:56 2006 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 00:24:56 -0500 Subject: pirut not starting In-Reply-To: <1138762370.7447.28.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43DFE400.30001@mindspring.com> <1138762370.7447.28.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43E04628.4020908@mindspring.com> Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 17:26 -0500, Richard Hally wrote: >> After using pirut once today, it will not start again. >> The first time I used it, it worked correctly until it was at the end of >> an update. At the point where it gave a message box that said "update >> completed successfully" I clicked on the "ok" button and the whole >> application disappeared(not just the message box). And now when I try to >> start in from a terminal it returns "segmentation fault". > > A segmentation fault is definitely not expected... can you get a stack > trace from gdb for what's happening?[1] > >> Has anyone seen this? Is there a lockfile(or something like that) that I >> can reset or remove to get pirut working again? > > No lock file, but the segfault is definitely suspicious > > Jeremy > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces > No luck getting a stack trace. But then again I'm not very familiar with gdb or python. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Richard From stanfinley at comcast.net Wed Feb 1 05:23:40 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:23:40 -0700 Subject: Sucess with Broadcom BCM43xx in FC5T2 but not with system-config-network Message-ID: <1138771420.3262.33.camel@stantonfinley.org> These are the steps I took to make this work on a HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook with onboard Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) running FC5test1 with the 2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 i686 kernel today: [stan at localhost ~]$ svn checkout svn://svn.berlios.de/bcm43xx/trunk/fwcutter A fwcutter/fwcutter.c A fwcutter/fwcutter_list.h A fwcutter/md5.c A fwcutter/md5.h A fwcutter/Makefile A fwcutter/README U fwcutter Checked out revision 1106. [stan at localhost ~]$ ls Desktop fwcutter [stan at localhost ~]$ cd fwcutter [stan at localhost fwcutter]$ ls fwcutter.c fwcutter_list.h Makefile md5.c md5.h README [stan at localhost fwcutter]$ make cc -std=c99 -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -pedantic -D_BSD_SOURCE -DFWCUTTER_VERSION_=0.0.1 -c -o fwcutter.o fwcutter.c cc -std=c99 -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -pedantic -D_BSD_SOURCE -DFWCUTTER_VERSION_=0.0.1 -c -o md5.o md5.c cc -std=c99 -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -pedantic -D_BSD_SOURCE -DFWCUTTER_VERSION_=0.0.1 -o fwcutter fwcutter.o md5.o [stan at localhost fwcutter]$ su Password: [root at localhost fwcutter]# make install install -o 0 -g 0 -m 755 fwcutter /usr/local/bin/ [root at localhost fwcutter]# At this point I copied bcmwl5.sys to ~/ from the WLAN folder of the HP driver disk that came with the laptop and chmoded it to 777. (This same driver file is also available at ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_3020_5020/driver/80211g.zip ). [root at localhost stan]# ls bcmwl5.sys Desktop fwcutter [root at localhost stan]# mv bcmwl5.sys ./fwcutter [root at localhost stan]# cd fwcutter [root at localhost fwcutter]# ls bcmwl5.sys fwcutter fwcutter.c fwcutter_list.h fwcutter.o Makefile md5.c md5.h md5.o README [root at localhost fwcutter]# fwcutter bcmwl5.sys fwcutter can cut the firmware out of bcmwl5.sys filename : bcmwl5.sys version : 3.100.64.0 MD5 : e7debb46b9ef1f28932e533be4a3d1a9 extracting bcm43xx_microcode2.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_microcode4.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_microcode5.fw ... *****: Sorry, it's not posible to extract "bcm43xx_microcode11.fw". *****: Extracting firmware from an old driver is bad. Choose a more recent one. *****: Luckily bcm43xx driver doesn't include microcode11 uploads at the moment. *****: But this can be added in the future... extracting bcm43xx_pcm4.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_pcm5.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_initval01.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_initval02.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_initval03.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_initval04.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_initval05.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_initval06.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_initval07.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_initval08.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_initval09.fw ... extracting bcm43xx_initval10.fw ... [root at localhost fwcutter]# make installfw if ! [ -d /lib/firmware ]; then mkdir /lib/firmware; fi install -o 0 -g 0 -m 600 bcm43xx_*.fw /lib/firmware [root at localhost fwcutter]# ls /lib/firmware bcm43xx_initval01.fw bcm43xx_initval04.fw bcm43xx_initval07.fw bcm43xx_initval10.fw bcm43xx_microcode5.fw bcm43xx_initval02.fw bcm43xx_initval05.fw bcm43xx_initval08.fw bcm43xx_microcode2.fw bcm43xx_pcm4.fw bcm43xx_initval03.fw bcm43xx_initval06.fw bcm43xx_initval09.fw bcm43xx_microcode4.fw bcm43xx_pcm5.fw [root at localhost fwcutter]# At this point the firmware seems to be installed. [root at localhost fwcutter]# system-config-network Hit "Edit" on "eth1" and made sure that "Activate device when computer starts" was checked on the "General" tab and that dhcp is selected. On the "Wireless Settings" tab entered all of the WEP parameters that used to work with ndiswrappper: Mode: Auto, Network name (SSID) specified, xxx, Channel: 6, Transmit rate: 11M (instead of "Auto" which used to work using ndiswrapper on FC4), Key (use 0x for hex): 0xxxxxxxxxxx, clicked "OK". Clicked "Active" on highlighted "eth1". Clicked "Yes". Clicked "OK". Dialog box came up "Determining IP information for eth1... failed. Cannot activate network device eth1". Rebooted. eth1 fails to start. su -ed to root. Typed "ifup eth1". Saw "Determinng IP information for eth1... failed. At this point looked at dmesg and saw these relevant lines: "bcm43xx": set security called "bcm43xx": .active_key = 0 "bcm43xx": .level = 1 "bcm43xx": .enabled = 1 "bcm43xx": .encrypt = 1 SoftMAC: net/ieee80211/softmac/ieee80211softmac_assoc.c:183:ieee80211softmac_assoc_work() SoftMAC: Associate: Scanning for networks first. SoftMAC: Associate: failed to initiate scan. Is device up? "bcm43xx": Radio turned on "bcm43xx": Chip initialized "bcm43xx": DMA initialized "bcm43xx": 80211 cores initialized "bcm43xx": Keys cleared ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready "bcm43xx": Radio turned off "bcm43xx": DMA 0x0200 (RX) max used slots: 1/64 "bcm43xx": DMA 0x0260 (TX) max used slots: 0/512 "bcm43xx": DMA 0x0240 (TX) max used slots: 0/512 "bcm43xx": DMA 0x0220 (TX) max used slots: 0/512 "bcm43xx": DMA 0x0200 (TX) max used slots: 0/512 Now using some steps from http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/fedora-ppc/2006-January/000691.html : [root at localhost ~]# ip link set eth1 up [root at localhost ~]# iwconfig eth1 enc my_hex_wep_key [root at localhost ~]# iwconfig eth1 essid my_essid [root at localhost ~]# ifup eth1 Determining IP information for eth1... done. Sucess! I see the expected IP from ifconfig. Ping works. Internet works. And from dmesg: "bcm43xx": PHY connected "bcm43xx": Radio turned on "bcm43xx": Chip initialized "bcm43xx": DMA initialized "bcm43xx": 80211 cores initialized "bcm43xx": Keys cleared ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'WEP' "bcm43xx": set security called "bcm43xx": .active_key = 0 "bcm43xx": .level = 1 "bcm43xx": .enabled = 1 "bcm43xx": .encrypt = 1 SoftMAC: net/ieee80211/softmac/ieee80211softmac_assoc.c:183:ieee80211softmac_assoc_work() SoftMAC: Associate: Scanning for networks first. SoftMAC: Start scanning with channel: 1 SoftMAC: Scanning 13 channels SoftMAC: Scanning finished SoftMAC: net/ieee80211/softmac/ieee80211softmac_assoc.c:183:ieee80211softmac_assoc_work() SoftMAC: net/ieee80211/softmac/ieee80211softmac_auth.c:39:ieee80211softmac_auth_req() SoftMAC: Queueing Authentication Request to 00:13:10:e9:5c:c2 SoftMAC: cannot associate without being authenticated, requested authentication SoftMAC: net/ieee80211/softmac/ieee80211softmac_auth.c:81:ieee80211softmac_auth_queue() SoftMAC: Sent Authentication Request to 00:13:10:e9:5c:c2. SoftMAC: net/ieee80211/softmac/ieee80211softmac_auth.c:131:ieee80211softmac_auth_resp() SoftMAC: Open Authentication completed with 00:13:10:e9:5c:c2 SoftMAC: net/ieee80211/softmac/ieee80211softmac_assoc.c:183:ieee80211softmac_assoc_work() SoftMAC: net/ieee80211/softmac/ieee80211softmac_assoc.c:41:ieee80211softmac_assoc() SoftMAC: sent association request! SoftMAC: associated! ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth1: link becomes ready Other relevant information: Network manager is not running. So: 1. Why can't I get these results from system-config-network? 2. How can I automate the following as a startup script?: ip link set eth1 up iwconfig eth1 enc my_hex_wep_key iwconfig eth1 essid my_essid ifup eth1 3. Is a bug report in order? Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 1 05:26:02 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:56:02 +0530 Subject: Sucess with Broadcom BCM43xx in FC5T2 but not with system-config-network In-Reply-To: <1138771420.3262.33.camel@stantonfinley.org> References: <1138771420.3262.33.camel@stantonfinley.org> Message-ID: <43E0466A.5000600@fedoraproject.org> Hi > >1. Why can't I get these results from system-config-network? >2. How can I automate the following as a startup script?: > ip link set eth1 up > iwconfig eth1 enc my_hex_wep_key > iwconfig eth1 essid my_essid > ifup eth1 >3. Is a bug report in order? > If in doubt, file a bug report. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From stanfinley at comcast.net Wed Feb 1 05:29:09 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:29:09 -0700 Subject: Sucess with Broadcom BCM43xx in FC5T2 but not with system-config-network In-Reply-To: <1138771420.3262.33.camel@stantonfinley.org> References: <1138771420.3262.33.camel@stantonfinley.org> Message-ID: <1138771749.3262.35.camel@stantonfinley.org> Correction: I'm running FC5test2 not FC5test1. Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From nutello at sweetness.com Wed Feb 1 06:23:55 2006 From: nutello at sweetness.com (Rudi Chiarito) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:23:55 +0100 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: References: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> <20060201023121.GB27561@plain.rackshack.net> Message-ID: <20060201062355.GD27561@plain.rackshack.net> On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:09:18PM -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > Are you a FC developer? Have you checked the behavior? I can't at the moment, as I am away from my Rawhide boxes. > It is unconditional. So, I should file a bug, eh? Okay, I found it. It's this change: http://cvs.gnome.org/bonsai/cvsview2.cgi?diff_mode=context&whitespace_mode=show&file=window.c&branch=&root=/cvs/gnome&subdir=metacity/src&command=DIFF_FRAMESET&rev1=1.406&rev2=1.407 http://tinyurl.com/amwfc It was partially backed out a few days later with this: http://cvs.gnome.org/bonsai/cvsview2.cgi?diff_mode=context&whitespace_mode=show&file=window.c&branch=&root=/cvs/gnome&subdir=metacity/src&command=DIFF_FRAMESET&rev1=1.412&rev2=1.413 http://tinyurl.com/9fsgn The new behaviour is still there for terminals. > Again, I think Fedora should reject this change to Metacity. > I know that Redhat maintains custom kernel patches. Can we > have a Metacity that doesn't implement this nutty window management? This is where the author of the change explains the rationale: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326159 > Does Fedora Core have any influence over the development decisions > of the Metacity project? Are we simply at the mercy of their whims? I think at least a couple of Metacity developers, including the person that started the project, are RH employees. :-) -- Rudi From miles.lane at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 06:30:01 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:30:01 -0800 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <20060201062355.GD27561@plain.rackshack.net> References: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> <20060201023121.GB27561@plain.rackshack.net> <20060201062355.GD27561@plain.rackshack.net> Message-ID: On 1/31/06, Rudi Chiarito wrote: > On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:09:18PM -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > > Are you a FC developer? Have you checked the behavior? > > I can't at the moment, as I am away from my Rawhide boxes. > > > It is unconditional. So, I should file a bug, eh? > > Okay, I found it. It's this change: > http://cvs.gnome.org/bonsai/cvsview2.cgi?diff_mode=context&whitespace_mode=show&file=window.c&branch=&root=/cvs/gnome&subdir=metacity/src&command=DIFF_FRAMESET&rev1=1.406&rev2=1.407 > http://tinyurl.com/amwfc > > It was partially backed out a few days later with this: > http://cvs.gnome.org/bonsai/cvsview2.cgi?diff_mode=context&whitespace_mode=show&file=window.c&branch=&root=/cvs/gnome&subdir=metacity/src&command=DIFF_FRAMESET&rev1=1.412&rev2=1.413 > http://tinyurl.com/9fsgn > > The new behaviour is still there for terminals. > > > Again, I think Fedora should reject this change to Metacity. > > I know that Redhat maintains custom kernel patches. Can we > > have a Metacity that doesn't implement this nutty window management? > > This is where the author of the change explains the rationale: > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326159 > > > Does Fedora Core have any influence over the development decisions > > of the Metacity project? Are we simply at the mercy of their whims? > > I think at least a couple of Metacity developers, including the person > that started the project, are RH employees. :-) Thanks for your time in putting this info together, Rudi. Please, anyone else who dislikes this new "feature", go to the bug report and attach well-documented use cases showing that this functionality is damaging to usability! I am going to. Best wishes, Miles From funaho at jurai.org Wed Feb 1 06:36:56 2006 From: funaho at jurai.org (Joshua M Thompson) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 01:36:56 -0500 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <604aa7910601311851n60f10b64t63fd70bcb1df4cfa@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> <20060201023121.GB27561@plain.rackshack.net> <604aa7910601311851n60f10b64t63fd70bcb1df4cfa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1138775816.14979.24.camel@mikoto.jurai.org> On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 21:51 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > My favorite side-effect of focus stealing protection is starting > mplayer in fullscreen mode from the terminal and having the focus > stealing protection not only have mplayer's full screen window show up > under the gnome-terminal.. but "under" the gnome-panel as a well. It's > quite amusing. This is one of the two times I find the new behavior to be most annoying. The other is when I run vncviewer to connect to my home machine from work and the password dialog pops up behind all my other windows, forcing me to move my hands to the mouse and bring it forward to click on it (alt-tabbing in and out of terminal windows seems to act weird.) -- Joshua M Thompson From miles.lane at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 06:44:00 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:44:00 -0800 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <1138775816.14979.24.camel@mikoto.jurai.org> References: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> <20060201023121.GB27561@plain.rackshack.net> <604aa7910601311851n60f10b64t63fd70bcb1df4cfa@mail.gmail.com> <1138775816.14979.24.camel@mikoto.jurai.org> Message-ID: On 1/31/06, Joshua M Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 21:51 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > > My favorite side-effect of focus stealing protection is starting > > mplayer in fullscreen mode from the terminal and having the focus > > stealing protection not only have mplayer's full screen window show up > > under the gnome-terminal.. but "under" the gnome-panel as a well. It's > > quite amusing. > > This is one of the two times I find the new behavior to be most > annoying. The other is when I run vncviewer to connect to my home > machine from work and the password dialog pops up behind all my other > windows, forcing me to move my hands to the mouse and bring it forward > to click on it (alt-tabbing in and out of terminal windows seems to act > weird.) Please add your complaint to the bug report. Commenting here is not likely to result is this getting fixed. -Miles From miles.lane at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 07:03:36 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:03:36 -0800 Subject: root can start "mahjongg" in 4 seconds, normal user in 39 seconds! Message-ID: Hello, Today I have noticed that when I launch apps, I first see a "Starting ..." entry appear in the Window List applet. Then, the "Starting..." disappears and about thirty seconds later the program window gets rendered. I tested starting mahjongg as root from a command shell. This brought up the program in 4 seconds. I exited from the root login shell and tried launching mahjongg as a normal user from the command shell. It took over forty seconds for the program window to appear. I thought maybe this was a font cache issue and tried running fc-cache. This did not help. I saw that recently updated fontconfig packages were made available for OpenSUSE for a similar problem. Is this a known problem with the current set of yum packages for FC5T2? Any ideas? Miles From stanfinley at comcast.net Wed Feb 1 07:08:02 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 00:08:02 -0700 Subject: Sucess with Broadcom BCM43xx in FC5T2 but not with system-config-network In-Reply-To: <43E0466A.5000600@fedoraproject.org> References: <1138771420.3262.33.camel@stantonfinley.org> <43E0466A.5000600@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1138777682.3262.38.camel@stantonfinley.org> On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 10:56 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > > >1. Why can't I get these results from system-config-network? > >2. How can I automate the following as a startup script?: > > ip link set eth1 up > > iwconfig eth1 enc my_hex_wep_key > > iwconfig eth1 essid my_essid > > ifup eth1 > >3. Is a bug report in order? > > > If in doubt, file a bug report. > > -- > Rahul Filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179538 Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 1 07:08:26 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:38:26 +0530 Subject: root can start "mahjongg" in 4 seconds, normal user in 39 seconds! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43E05E6A.5080300@fedoraproject.org> Miles Lane wrote: >Hello, > >Today I have noticed that when I launch apps, I first see a "Starting >..." entry appear in the Window List applet. Then, the >"Starting..." disappears and about thirty seconds later the program >window gets rendered. I tested starting mahjongg as root from a >command shell. This brought up the program in 4 seconds. I exited >from the root login shell and tried launching mahjongg as a normal >user from the command shell. It took over forty seconds for the >program window to appear. > >I thought maybe this was a font cache issue and tried running >fc-cache. This did not help. I saw that recently updated fontconfig >packages were made available for OpenSUSE for a similar problem. Is >this a known problem with the current set of yum packages for FC5T2? > >Any ideas? > Are you running FC5test2 or do you have all the updates and thereby running Fedora development branch aka rawhide? -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From miles.lane at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 07:19:33 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:19:33 -0800 Subject: root can start "mahjongg" in 4 seconds, normal user in 39 seconds! In-Reply-To: <43E05E6A.5080300@fedoraproject.org> References: <43E05E6A.5080300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 1/31/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Miles Lane wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >Today I have noticed that when I launch apps, I first see a "Starting > >..." entry appear in the Window List applet. Then, the > >"Starting..." disappears and about thirty seconds later the program > >window gets rendered. I tested starting mahjongg as root from a > >command shell. This brought up the program in 4 seconds. I exited > >from the root login shell and tried launching mahjongg as a normal > >user from the command shell. It took over forty seconds for the > >program window to appear. > > > >I thought maybe this was a font cache issue and tried running > >fc-cache. This did not help. I saw that recently updated fontconfig > >packages were made available for OpenSUSE for a similar problem. Is > >this a known problem with the current set of yum packages for FC5T2? > > > >Any ideas? > > > Are you running FC5test2 or do you have all the updates and thereby > running Fedora development branch aka rawhide? Rawhide. From n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 07:23:32 2006 From: n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com (n0dalus) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:53:32 +1030 Subject: root can start "mahjongg" in 4 seconds, normal user in 39 seconds! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6280325c0601312323s55569618o16659d068afe000d@mail.gmail.com> On 2/1/06, Miles Lane wrote: > > Today I have noticed that when I launch apps, I first see a "Starting > ..." entry appear in the Window List applet. Then, the > "Starting..." disappears and about thirty seconds later the program > window gets rendered. I tested starting mahjongg as root from a > command shell. This brought up the program in 4 seconds. I exited > from the root login shell and tried launching mahjongg as a normal > user from the command shell. It took over forty seconds for the > program window to appear. > It's working for me. Can you do an strace of it with -tt and see what's taking so long? n0dalus. From miles.lane at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 07:54:23 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:54:23 -0800 Subject: root can start "mahjongg" in 4 seconds, normal user in 39 seconds! In-Reply-To: <6280325c0601312323s55569618o16659d068afe000d@mail.gmail.com> References: <6280325c0601312323s55569618o16659d068afe000d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 1/31/06, n0dalus wrote: > On 2/1/06, Miles Lane wrote: > > > > Today I have noticed that when I launch apps, I first see a "Starting > > ..." entry appear in the Window List applet. Then, the > > "Starting..." disappears and about thirty seconds later the program > > window gets rendered. I tested starting mahjongg as root from a > > command shell. This brought up the program in 4 seconds. I exited > > from the root login shell and tried launching mahjongg as a normal > > user from the command shell. It took over forty seconds for the > > program window to appear. > > > > It's working for me. > > Can you do an strace of it with -tt and see what's taking so long? I hope this excerpt is sufficient. The full log is 1.6MB. The hang is really bizarre, though. There seems to be a sudden 40 second hang in the middle of reading a file. 23:44:28.676460 write(12, "\0\7\1\0\7\0\0\0\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\4\0XSMPp\343\3\0MIT\33"..., 64) = 64 23:44:28.676755 read(12, "\0\3\0\0\1\0\0\0", 8) = 8 23:44:28.676926 read(12, "\0\0MIT05e", 8) = 8 23:44:28.677098 access("/home/miles/.ICEauthority", R_OK) = 0 23:44:28.677616 open("/home/miles/.ICEauthority", O_RDONLY) = 13 23:44:28.677808 fstat64(13, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=3118, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.678052 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:44:28.678227 read(13, "\0\4XSMP\0\0\0/local/hogwarts.therasi"..., 4096) = 3118 23:44:28.678431 close(13) = 0 23:44:28.678578 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.678735 write(12, "\0\4\1\0\3\0\0\0\20\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\333\7\362.Z\222p\343"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.679038 read(12, "\0\10\0\1\3\0\0\0", 8) = 8 23:44:28.679226 read(12, "\7\0GnomeSM\0001.\7\0002.13.90779", 24) = 24 23:44:28.679444 write(12, "\1\1\1\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16) = 16 23:44:28.680102 read(12, "\1\2\0\1\6\0\0\0", 8) = 8 23:45:08.673703 read(12, "%\0\0\000105efac86c000113877990800000"..., 48) = 48 23:45:08.674175 write(12, "\1\f\1\0\t\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\20\0\0\0CurrentDirec"..., 80) = 80 23:45:08.674567 write(12, "\1\f\1\0\10\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\t\0\0\0ProcessIDrec"..., 72) = 72 23:45:08.674864 write(12, "\1\f\1\0\10\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\7\0\0\0ProgramIDrec"..., 72) = 72 23:45:08.675305 write(12, "\1\f\1\0\10\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\f\0\0\0CloneCommand"..., 72) = 72 23:45:08.675669 write(12, "\1\f\1\0\25\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\300)u\0\16\0\0\0RestartComma"..., 176) = 176 23:45:08.675968 write(12, "\1\f\1\0\10\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\300)u\0\6\0\0\0UserIDtComma"..., 72) = 72 23:45:08.676344 write(4, "\20\0\5\0\f\0@\3SM_CLIENT_ID", 20) = 20 23:45:08.676659 read(4, "\1\3O\0\0\0\0\0\24\1\0\0\3\0\0\0\24\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:45:08.677107 access("/usr/share/gtkrc-2.0", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) Here is a bit more context: 23:44:28.571171 read(4, "\t\t\tes_ES.ISO8859-15\nes_ES.ISO-88"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.571458 read(4, "A.ISO-8859-15\t\t\t\tfr_CA.ISO8859-1"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.571741 read(4, ".iso88591\t\t\t\t\tit_IT.ISO8859-1\nit"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.572034 read(4, "SO8859-15\nnl_BE at euro\t\t\t\t\tnl_BE.I"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.572339 read(4, "\t\t\t\t\t\tsk_SK.ISO8859-2\nsk_SK\t\t\t\t\t"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.572671 read(4, "SO8859-1\nwa_BE\t\t\t\t\t\twa_BE.ISO885"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.572966 read(4, "mes\nISO8859-1\t\t\t\t\ten_US.ISO8859-"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.573349 read(4, "\t\t\tbg_BG.KOI8-R\nbe_BG.utf8:\t\t\t\t\t"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.573649 read(4, "8859:\t\t\t\t\tde_DE.ISO8859-1\nGER_DE"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.573903 close(4) = 0 23:44:28.574047 munmap(0xb7f74000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.574713 open("/usr/share/X11/locale/locale.dir", O_RDONLY) = 4 23:44:28.574922 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=32274, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.575166 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f74000 23:44:28.575323 read(4, "#\t$XdotOrg: xc/nls/locale.dir,v "..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.575609 read(4, "LC_LOCALE\t\t\tes_UY.ISO8859-1\niso8"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.575885 read(4, "YU.ISO8859-5\nmicrosoft-cp1251/XL"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.576174 read(4, "\t\t\tes_PE.UTF-8\nen_US.UTF-8/XLC_L"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.576445 read(4, "\niso8859-6/XLC_LOCALE:\t\t\tar_BH.I"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.576721 read(4, "3342\niso8859-1/XLC_LOCALE:\t\t\tfi_"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.577002 read(4, "O8859-1\niso8859-15/XLC_LOCALE:\t\t"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.577278 close(4) = 0 23:44:28.577421 munmap(0xb7f74000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.577601 access("/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/XLC_LOCALE", R_OK) = 0 23:44:28.577818 open("/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/XLC_LOCALE", O_RDONLY) = 4 23:44:28.578034 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2036, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.578279 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f74000 23:44:28.578440 read(4, "# $XFree86: xc/nls/XLC_LOCALE/e"..., 4096) = 2036 23:44:28.579414 read(4, "", 4096) = 0 23:44:28.579636 close(4) = 0 23:44:28.579780 munmap(0xb7f74000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.581205 uname({sys="Linux", node="hogwarts.therasim.com", ...}) = 0 23:44:28.581760 socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 4 23:44:28.581948 uname({sys="Linux", node="hogwarts.therasim.com", ...}) = 0 23:44:28.582457 uname({sys="Linux", node="hogwarts.therasim.com", ...}) = 0 23:44:28.582987 connect(4, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/.X11-unix/X0"}, 19) = 0 23:44:28.583447 uname({sys="Linux", node="hogwarts.therasim.com", ...}) = 0 23:44:28.583973 fcntl64(4, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 23:44:28.584438 access("/home/miles/.Xauthority", R_OK) = 0 23:44:28.584727 open("/home/miles/.Xauthority", O_RDONLY) = 5 23:44:28.584973 fstat64(5, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=132, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.585371 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f74000 23:44:28.585536 read(5, "\1\0\0\25hogwarts.therasim.com\0\0010\0\22MI"..., 4096) = 132 23:44:28.585862 read(5, "", 4096) = 0 23:44:28.586034 close(5) = 0 23:44:28.586198 munmap(0xb7f74000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.586501 writev(4, [{"l\0\v\0\0\0\22\0\20\0\0\0", 12}, {"MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1", 18}, {"\0\0", 2}, {"\223UJe\373yZ\351\247\253\24\275k\257rO", 16}], 4) = 48 23:44:28.586948 fcntl64(4, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR) 23:44:28.587101 fcntl64(4, F_SETFL, O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 23:44:28.587342 read(4, "\1\0\v\0\0\0\223\0", 8) = 8 23:44:28.587517 read(4, "\200\35,\4\0\0@\3\377\377\37\0\0\1\0\0\24\0\377\377\1\7"..., 588) = 588 23:44:28.587894 write(4, "7\0\5\0\0\0@\3L\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\377\377\377\0b\0\5\0\f\0"..., 64) = 64 23:44:28.588258 read(4, "\1\1\2\0\0\0\0\0\1\202\0\0,\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\24\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.588513 read(4, "\1\10\3\0\241\6\0\0\37\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\204\32\0\0{J\t\10"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.588774 readv(4, [{"*Box.background:\t#dcdfe1\n*Box.fo"..., 6788}, {"", 0}], 2) = 6788 23:44:28.589004 write(4, "\202\0\1\0", 4) = 4 23:44:28.589509 read(4, "\1\1\4\0\0\0\0\0\377\377?\0\4\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\4\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.589818 writev(4, [{"b\0\5\0\t\0@\3", 8}, {"XKEYBOARD", 9}, {"\0\0\0", 3}], 3) = 20 23:44:28.590154 read(4, "\1\1\5\0\0\0\0\0\1\225n\257\24\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\24"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.590391 write(4, "\225\0\2\0\1\0\0\0", 8) = 8 23:44:28.590689 read(4, "\1\1\6\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0x\3_\10\320\1=\10\310o"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.591300 writev(4, [{"b\0\4\0\10\0\0\0", 8}, {"XINERAMA", 8}], 2) = 16 23:44:28.591615 read(4, "\1\1\7\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\20\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\20\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.592192 brk(0x80b8000) = 0x80b8000 23:44:28.592357 brk(0x80b7000) = 0x80b7000 23:44:28.592654 write(4, "\2\0\4\0L\0\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\0\2\0\20\0\6\0\r\0\5\0_XSET"..., 84) = 84 23:44:28.593907 read(4, "\1v\t\0\0\0\0\0\336\0\0\0\3\0\0\0D\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.594353 read(4, "\1v\n\0\0\0\0\0\337\0\0\0\3\0\0\0,\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.594635 read(4, "\1v\v\0\0\0\0\0\340\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\20\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.594907 write(4, "\3\0\2\0L\0\0\0\16\10\2\0L\0\0\0", 16) = 16 23:44:28.595205 read(4, "\1\0\f\0\3\0\0\0#\0\0\0\1\0\0\1\377\377\377\377\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.595416 read(4, "3 \372\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\0\0", 12) = 12 23:44:28.595591 read(4, "\1\30\r\0\0\0\0\0L\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\5\0\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.595902 write(4, "\2\0\4\0L\0\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\0\2\0$\0\1\0\27\0\2\0\336\0"..., 28) = 28 23:44:28.596385 read(4, "\1i\20\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\200\0\3\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.596672 write(4, "\2\0\4\0\3\0\200\0\0\10\0\0\0\0B\0%\0\1\0", 20) = 20 23:44:28.596991 write(4, "\3\0\2\0\3\0\200\0\16\10\2\0\3\0\200\0", 16) = 16 23:44:28.597290 read(4, "\1\0\23\0\3\0\0\0#\0\0\0\1\0\0\1\377\377\377\377\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.597498 read(4, "\0\0B\0\0\0B\0\0\0\0\0", 12) = 12 23:44:28.597676 read(4, "\1\30\24\0\0\0\0\0L\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\n\0\n\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.597918 write(4, "\17\0\2\0\3\0\200\0", 8) = 8 23:44:28.598195 read(4, "\1\0\25\0\0\0\0\0L\0\0\0L\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\1\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.598498 write(4, "\24\0\6\0\3\0\200\0\337\0\0\0\337\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\377\377"..., 24) = 24 23:44:28.598795 read(4, "\1\10\26\0\331\0\0\0\337\0\0\0\0\0\0\0d\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.599008 readv(4, [{"\0ft.\0\0\0\0\31\0\0\0\0\0\23\0Gtk/CanChangeAcc"..., 868}, {"", 0}], 2) = 868 23:44:28.599741 write(4, "\1\30\r\0\1\0@\3L\0\0\0\n\0\n\0\n\0\n\0\0\0\1\0#\0\0\0"..., 88) = 88 23:44:28.601486 read(4, "\1v\31\0\0\0\0\0\341\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\24\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.601730 write(4, "\20\0\5\0\f\0@\3_NET_WM_NAME", 20) = 20 23:44:28.602001 read(4, "\1\3\32\0\0\0\0\0\342\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\24\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.602556 open("/usr/lib/gconv/gconv-modules.cache", O_RDONLY) = 5 23:44:28.602772 fstat64(5, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=25404, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.603019 mmap2(NULL, 25404, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 5, 0) = 0xb7f6e000 23:44:28.603205 close(5) = 0 23:44:28.603357 futex(0x753a4c, FUTEX_WAKE, 2147483647) = 0 23:44:28.603609 open("/usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-1.so", O_RDONLY) = 5 23:44:28.603806 read(5, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0 \4\0\000"..., 512) = 512 23:44:28.604028 fstat64(5, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=5340, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.604948 mmap2(NULL, 8216, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 5, 0) = 0xb7f6b000 23:44:28.605137 mmap2(0xb7f6c000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 5, 0) = 0xb7f6c000 23:44:28.605340 close(5) = 0 23:44:28.605794 write(4, "\22\0\10\0\1\0@\3\342\0\0\0\341\0\0\0\10AME\10\0\0\0ma"..., 92) = 92 23:44:28.606270 read(4, "\34\216\33\0\1\0@\3\342\0\0\0\276\315\221$\0\0\0\0r\315"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.606503 read(4, "\34\216\34\0\1\0@\3\'\0\0\0\276\315\221$\0\0\0\0\276\315"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.606710 read(4, "\1\0\35\0\0\0\0\0\343\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.606976 write(4, "\22\0\10\0\1\0@\3\343\0\0\0\341\0\0\0\10AME\10\0\0\0ma"..., 88) = 88 23:44:28.607411 read(4, "\34\216\36\0\1\0@\3\343\0\0\0\277\315\221$\0\0\0\0\276"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.607622 read(4, "\34\216\37\0\1\0@\3%\0\0\0\277\315\221$\0\0\0\0\277\315"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.607825 read(4, "\1\0 \0\0\0\0\0\344\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\30\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.608066 write(4, "\20\0\6\0\r\0@\3WM_TAKE_FOCUS\0\0\0", 24) = 24 23:44:28.608790 read(4, "\1\3!\0\0\0\0\0\345\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\30\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.609031 write(4, "\20\0\5\0\f\0@\3_NET_WM_PING", 20) = 20 23:44:28.609551 read(4, "\1\3\"\0\0\0\0\0\346\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\24\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.609827 write(4, "\20\0\5\0\f\0@\3WM_PROTOCOLS", 20) = 20 23:44:28.610098 read(4, "\1\3#\0\0\0\0\0\347\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\24\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.610536 uname({sys="Linux", node="hogwarts.therasim.com", ...}) = 0 23:44:28.611072 write(4, "\22\0\t\0\1\0@\3\347\0\0\0\4\0\0\0 OLS\3\0\0\0\344\0\0"..., 268) = 268 23:44:28.612213 read(4, "\34\216$\0\1\0@\3\347\0\0\0\303\315\221$\0\0\0\0\277\315"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.612429 read(4, "\34\216(\0\1\0@\3(\0\0\0\303\315\221$\0\0\0\300\2\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.612634 read(4, "\34\216)\0\1\0@\3$\0\0\0\303\315\221$\0\0\0\0\303\315\221"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.612836 read(4, "\1\0*\0\0\0\0\0\350\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\30\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.613097 write(4, "\22\0\t\0\1\0@\3\350\0\0\0\37\0\0\0\10OLS\v\0\0\0en_US"..., 56) = 56 23:44:28.613517 read(4, "\34\216+\0\1\0@\3\350\0\0\0\305\315\221$\0\0\0\0\303\315"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.613780 read(4, "\1\0,\0\0\0\0\0\351\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\24\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.614014 write(4, "\22\0\7\0\1\0@\3\351\0\0\0\6\0\0\0 OLS\1\0\0\0\261\17\0"..., 52) = 52 23:44:28.614675 read(4, "\34\216-\0\1\0@\3\351\0\0\0\306\315\221$\0\0\0\0\305\315"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.614885 read(4, "\1\0.\0\0\0\0\0\352\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\30\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.615316 writev(4, [{"\22\0\7\0\1\0@\3\352\0\0\0!\0\0\0 OLS\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b"..., 36}, {"XFIXES", 6}, {"\0\0", 2}], 3) = 44 23:44:28.615784 read(4, "\34\216/\0\1\0@\3\352\0\0\0\307\315\221$\0\0\0\0\306\315"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.616047 read(4, "\1\0010\0\0\0\0\0\1\231r\264\20\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\20"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.616371 write(4, "\231\0\3\0\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 12) = 12 23:44:28.616643 read(4, "\1\0031\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.616965 write(4, "\20\0\6\0\17\0\0\0_NET_WM_DESKTOP\0\20\0\5\0\f\0\4\0"..., 384) = 384 23:44:28.618681 read(4, "\1\0032\0\0\0\0\0\353\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\200\1\0\0\1\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.618916 read(4, "\1\0033\0\0\0\0\0\354\0\0\0\3\0\0\0h\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.619333 read(4, "\1\0034\0\0\0\0\0\355\0\0\0\3\0\0\0T\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.619615 read(4, "\1\0035\0\0\0\0\0\356\0\0\0\3\0\0\0<\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.619914 read(4, "\1\0036\0\0\0\0\0\357\0\0\0\3\0\0\0 \1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.620139 read(4, "\1\0037\0\0\0\0\0\360\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\374\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.620352 read(4, "\1\0038\0\0\0\0\0\361\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\330\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.620560 read(4, "\1\0039\0\0\0\0\0\362\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\270\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.620767 read(4, "\1\3:\0\0\0\0\0\363\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\234\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.620975 read(4, "\1\3;\0\0\0\0\0\364\0\0\0\3\0\0\0x\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.621200 read(4, "\1\3<\0\0\0\0\0\365\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\\\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.621409 read(4, "\1\3=\0\0\0\0\0\366\0\0\0\3\0\0\0008\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.621670 read(4, "\1\3>\0\0\0\0\0\367\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.621972 uname({sys="Linux", node="hogwarts.therasim.com", ...}) = 0 23:44:28.622639 write(4, "\22\0\t\0\1\0@\3\"\0\0\0\37\0\0\0\10ESK\t\0\0\0mahjong"..., 236) = 236 23:44:28.623206 read(4, "\34\216?\0\1\0@\3\"\0\0\0\316\315\221$\0\0\0\0\307\315"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.623418 read(4, "\34\216@\0\1\0@\3$\0\0\0\316\315\221$\0\0\0\0\316\315\221"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.623622 read(4, "\34\216A\0\1\0@\3C\0\0\0\316\315\221$\0\0\0\0\316\315\221"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.623839 read(4, "\34\216B\0\1\0@\3\350\0\0\0\316\315\221$\0\0\0\0\316\315"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.624042 read(4, "\34\216C\0\1\0@\3\351\0\0\0\316\315\221$\0\0\0\0\316\315"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.624556 read(4, "\1\36E\0\0\0\0\0\37\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\320\1"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.624973 writev(4, [{"b\0\3\0\4\0@\3", 8}, {"SYNC", 4}], 2) = 12 23:44:28.625337 read(4, "\1\1F\0\0\0\0\0\1\203A\200\f\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\f\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.625665 write(4, "\203\0\2\0\3\0@\3", 8) = 8 23:44:28.625927 read(4, "\1\1G\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\10\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.626295 writev(4, [{"b\0\4\0\7\0@\3", 8}, {"MIT-SHM", 7}, {"\0", 1}], 3) = 16 23:44:28.626617 read(4, "\1\1H\0\0\0\0\0\1\222^\251\20\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\20"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.626870 write(4, "\222\0\1\0", 4) = 4 23:44:28.627291 read(4, "\1\1I\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.627651 pipe([5, 7]) = 0 23:44:28.627906 writev(4, [{"b\0\6\0\17\0@\3", 8}, {"XInputExtension", 15}, {"\0", 1}], 3) = 24 23:44:28.628256 read(4, "\1\1J\0\0\0\0\0\1\223_\252\30\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\30"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.628614 writev(4, [{"b\0\6\0\17\0@\3", 8}, {"XInputExtension", 15}, {"\0", 1}], 3) = 24 23:44:28.628935 read(4, "\1\1K\0\0\0\0\0\1\223_\252\30\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\30"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.629499 writev(4, [{"\223\1\6\0\17\0@\3", 8}, {"XInputExtension", 15}, {"\0", 1}], 3) = 24 23:44:28.629838 read(4, "\1\1L\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\3\0\1\21\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.630069 write(4, "\223\2\1\0", 4) = 4 23:44:28.630352 read(4, "\1\2M\0!\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0h\216\222\277,\16\32\10x"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.630583 read(4, "T\0\0\0\0\2\2\10T\0\0\0\1\2\0\0S\0\0\0\2\1\1\0\1\4\t\0"..., 132) = 132 23:44:28.630918 write(4, "\223\3\2\0\0\0@\3", 8) = 8 23:44:28.631199 read(4, "\1\3N\0\2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\0\0\0\0h\216\222\277,\16\32\10"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.631409 read(4, "\1b\2d\3\0\6i", 8) = 8 23:44:28.631920 open("/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20-properties.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.632181 open("/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20-properties.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.632403 open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20-properties.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.632614 open("/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20-properties.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.632830 open("/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20-properties.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.633045 open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20-properties.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.633653 open("/etc/orbitrc", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.633889 open("/home/miles/.orbitrc", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.634577 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 23:44:28.634858 pipe([8, 9]) = 0 23:44:28.635138 pipe([10, 11]) = 0 23:44:28.635325 fcntl64(11, F_SETFL, O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 23:44:28.635675 open("/tmp", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 12 23:44:28.635857 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|S_ISVTX|0777, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.636100 fcntl64(12, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 23:44:28.636318 getdents64(12, /* 73 entries */, 4096) = 2664 23:44:28.638690 stat64("/tmp/orbit-miles", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.638992 getuid32() = 500 23:44:28.639321 getdents64(12, /* 0 entries */, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.639567 close(12) = 0 23:44:28.639810 mkdir("/tmp/orbit-miles", 0700) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) 23:44:28.640017 stat64("/tmp/orbit-miles", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.640304 getuid32() = 500 23:44:28.640461 utime("/tmp/orbit-miles", [0, 0]) = 0 23:44:28.640713 getuid32() = 500 23:44:28.640878 open("/dev/urandom", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 12 23:44:28.641093 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0444, st_rdev=makedev(1, 9), ...}) = 0 23:44:28.641355 ioctl(12, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, 0xbfd5d9d8) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) 23:44:28.641536 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:44:28.641740 read(12, ";\277\356\277\323m\37\340\225\350\307\35\2469\252OL\203"..., 4096) = 4096 23:44:28.647550 close(12) = 0 23:44:28.647706 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.647938 gettimeofday({1138779868, 648024}, NULL) = 0 23:44:28.648430 gettimeofday({1138779868, 648519}, NULL) = 0 23:44:28.648727 gettimeofday({1138779868, 648813}, NULL) = 0 23:44:28.648881 getuid32() = 500 23:44:28.649493 access("/home/miles/.gnome2", F_OK) = 0 23:44:28.649700 stat64("/home/miles/.gnome2", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.650735 open("/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-games.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.650970 open("/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-games.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.651203 open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-games.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.651409 open("/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-games.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.651622 open("/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-games.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.651833 open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-games.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.652577 gettimeofday({1138779868, 652757}, NULL) = 0 23:44:28.653103 gettimeofday({1138779868, 653213}, NULL) = 0 23:44:28.653374 gettimeofday({1138779868, 653466}, NULL) = 0 23:44:28.654380 stat64("/home/miles/.gnome2/vfs/modules", 0x809d8c4) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:44:28.654590 stat64("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.654873 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 12 23:44:28.655066 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.655323 fcntl64(12, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 23:44:28.655496 getdents64(12, /* 8 entries */, 4096) = 288 23:44:28.655951 getdents64(12, /* 0 entries */, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.656131 close(12) = 0 23:44:28.656315 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/theme-method.conf", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 12 23:44:28.656581 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=25, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.656828 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:44:28.656988 read(12, "themes: libtheme-method\n\n", 4096) = 25 23:44:28.657534 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 23:44:28.657713 close(12) = 0 23:44:28.657859 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.658015 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/mapping-modules.conf", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 12 23:44:28.658252 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=151, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.658497 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:44:28.658653 read(12, "#\n# Module configuration file fo"..., 4096) = 151 23:44:28.658877 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 23:44:28.659027 close(12) = 0 23:44:28.659186 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.659339 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/font-method.conf", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 12 23:44:28.659546 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=20, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.659788 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:44:28.659942 read(12, "fonts: font-method\n\n", 4096) = 20 23:44:28.660208 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 23:44:28.660360 close(12) = 0 23:44:28.660502 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.660655 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/smb-module.conf", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 12 23:44:28.660862 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=153, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.661106 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:44:28.661279 read(12, "#\n# Module configuration file fo"..., 4096) = 153 23:44:28.661500 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 23:44:28.661649 close(12) = 0 23:44:28.661793 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.661944 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/ssl-modules.conf", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 12 23:44:28.662428 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=12, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.662678 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:44:28.662834 read(12, "https: http\n", 4096) = 12 23:44:28.663018 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 23:44:28.663252 close(12) = 0 23:44:28.663396 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.663549 open("/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/default-modules.conf", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 12 23:44:28.663759 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=411, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.664003 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:44:28.664381 read(12, "#\n# Module configuration file fo"..., 4096) = 411 23:44:28.664705 read(12, "", 4096) = 0 23:44:28.664856 close(12) = 0 23:44:28.664998 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.665191 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_IGN}, 8) = 0 23:44:28.665502 time(NULL) = 1138779868 23:44:28.665757 mkdir("/home/miles/.gnome2", 0700) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) 23:44:28.665970 mkdir("/home/miles/.gnome2_private", 0700) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) 23:44:28.666200 stat64("/home/miles/.gnome2_private/", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.666487 mkdir("/home/miles/.gnome2/accels", 0700) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) 23:44:28.667350 socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 12 23:44:28.667630 uname({sys="Linux", node="hogwarts.therasim.com", ...}) = 0 23:44:28.668172 connect(12, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/.ICE-unix/2199"}, 21) = 0 23:44:28.668674 fcntl64(12, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 23:44:28.668863 write(12, "\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0", 8) = 8 23:44:28.669170 read(12, "\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0", 8) = 8 23:44:28.669412 access("/home/miles/.ICEauthority", R_OK) = 0 23:44:28.669621 open("/home/miles/.ICEauthority", O_RDONLY) = 13 23:44:28.669836 fstat64(13, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=3118, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.670083 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:44:28.670260 read(13, "\0\4XSMP\0\0\0/local/hogwarts.therasi"..., 4096) = 3118 23:44:28.670598 read(13, "", 4096) = 0 23:44:28.670768 close(13) = 0 23:44:28.670918 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.671072 write(12, "\0\2\1\1\6\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0MIT\0\0\0\3\0001.0"..., 56) = 56 23:44:28.671405 read(12, "\0\3\0\0\1\0\0\0", 8) = 8 23:44:28.671594 read(12, "\0\0\0\000105e", 8) = 8 23:44:28.671783 access("/home/miles/.ICEauthority", R_OK) = 0 23:44:28.671972 open("/home/miles/.ICEauthority", O_RDONLY) = 13 23:44:28.672400 fstat64(13, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=3118, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.672648 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:44:28.672805 read(13, "\0\4XSMP\0\0\0/local/hogwarts.therasi"..., 4096) = 3118 23:44:28.673007 close(13) = 0 23:44:28.673171 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.673331 write(12, "\0\4\1\1\3\0\0\0\20\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\333\7\362.Z\222p\343"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.673640 read(12, "\0\6\0\0\2\0\0\0", 8) = 8 23:44:28.673813 read(12, "\3\0MIT05e\3\0001.0c00", 16) = 16 23:44:28.674032 fcntl64(12, F_GETFD) = 0x1 (flags FD_CLOEXEC) 23:44:28.674203 fcntl64(12, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 23:44:28.674393 fstat64(12, {st_mode=S_IFSOCK|0777, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.674658 fcntl64(12, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR) 23:44:28.674878 access("/home/miles/.ICEauthority", R_OK) = 0 23:44:28.675071 open("/home/miles/.ICEauthority", O_RDONLY) = 13 23:44:28.675278 fstat64(13, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=3118, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.675522 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:44:28.675678 read(13, "\0\4XSMP\0\0\0/local/hogwarts.therasi"..., 4096) = 3118 23:44:28.675999 read(13, "", 4096) = 0 23:44:28.676162 close(13) = 0 23:44:28.676306 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.676460 write(12, "\0\7\1\0\7\0\0\0\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\4\0XSMPp\343\3\0MIT\33"..., 64) = 64 23:44:28.676755 read(12, "\0\3\0\0\1\0\0\0", 8) = 8 23:44:28.676926 read(12, "\0\0MIT05e", 8) = 8 23:44:28.677098 access("/home/miles/.ICEauthority", R_OK) = 0 23:44:28.677616 open("/home/miles/.ICEauthority", O_RDONLY) = 13 23:44:28.677808 fstat64(13, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=3118, ...}) = 0 23:44:28.678052 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:44:28.678227 read(13, "\0\4XSMP\0\0\0/local/hogwarts.therasi"..., 4096) = 3118 23:44:28.678431 close(13) = 0 23:44:28.678578 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:44:28.678735 write(12, "\0\4\1\0\3\0\0\0\20\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\333\7\362.Z\222p\343"..., 32) = 32 23:44:28.679038 read(12, "\0\10\0\1\3\0\0\0", 8) = 8 23:44:28.679226 read(12, "\7\0GnomeSM\0001.\7\0002.13.90779", 24) = 24 23:44:28.679444 write(12, "\1\1\1\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16) = 16 23:44:28.680102 read(12, "\1\2\0\1\6\0\0\0", 8) = 8 23:45:08.673703 read(12, "%\0\0\000105efac86c000113877990800000"..., 48) = 48 23:45:08.674175 write(12, "\1\f\1\0\t\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\20\0\0\0CurrentDirec"..., 80) = 80 23:45:08.674567 write(12, "\1\f\1\0\10\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\t\0\0\0ProcessIDrec"..., 72) = 72 23:45:08.674864 write(12, "\1\f\1\0\10\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\7\0\0\0ProgramIDrec"..., 72) = 72 23:45:08.675305 write(12, "\1\f\1\0\10\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\f\0\0\0CloneCommand"..., 72) = 72 23:45:08.675669 write(12, "\1\f\1\0\25\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\300)u\0\16\0\0\0RestartComma"..., 176) = 176 23:45:08.675968 write(12, "\1\f\1\0\10\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\300)u\0\6\0\0\0UserIDtComma"..., 72) = 72 23:45:08.676344 write(4, "\20\0\5\0\f\0@\3SM_CLIENT_ID", 20) = 20 23:45:08.676659 read(4, "\1\3O\0\0\0\0\0\24\1\0\0\3\0\0\0\24\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 23:45:08.677107 access("/usr/share/gtkrc-2.0", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:45:08.677318 access("/usr/share/mahjonggrc", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:45:08.677630 rt_sigaction(SIGSEGV, {0x42b53cb, [], 0}, NULL, 8) = 0 23:45:08.677824 rt_sigaction(SIGABRT, {0x42b53cb, [], 0}, NULL, 8) = 0 23:45:08.678005 rt_sigaction(SIGTRAP, {0x42b53cb, [], 0}, NULL, 8) = 0 23:45:08.678480 rt_sigaction(SIGFPE, {0x42b53cb, [], 0}, NULL, 8) = 0 23:45:08.678662 rt_sigaction(SIGBUS, {0x42b53cb, [], 0}, NULL, 8) = 0 23:45:08.678889 stat64("/home/miles/.gnome2/accels/mahjongg", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1017, ...}) = 0 23:45:08.679238 open("/home/miles/.gnome2/accels/mahjongg", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 13 23:45:08.679603 read(13, "; mahjongg GtkAccelMap rc-file "..., 4000) = 1017 23:45:08.679953 read(13, "", 4000) = 0 23:45:08.680257 close(13) = 0 23:45:08.684586 stat64("/tmp/gconfd-miles", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 23:45:08.685170 open("/tmp/gconfd-miles/lock/ior", O_RDONLY) = 13 23:45:08.685425 fstat64(13, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0700, st_size=609, ...}) = 0 23:45:08.685675 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:45:08.685841 read(13, "2264:IOR:010000001600000049444c3"..., 4096) = 609 23:45:08.686116 read(13, "", 4096) = 0 23:45:08.686298 close(13) = 0 23:45:08.686448 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:45:08.687845 socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 13 23:45:08.688062 fcntl64(13, F_SETFL, O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 23:45:08.688217 fcntl64(13, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 23:45:08.688407 connect(13, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/orbit-miles/linc-8d8-0-6c6ef2e288ccf"}, 44) = 0 23:45:08.689359 writev(13, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0T\0\0\0", 12}, {"\360\331\325\277\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0R\336"..., 84}], 2) = 96 23:45:08.689960 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}], 2, -1) = 1 23:45:08.690205 read(13, "GIOP\1\2\1\1(\0\0\0", 12) = 12 23:45:08.690438 read(13, "\360\331\325\277\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1"..., 40) = 40 23:45:08.690865 gettimeofday({1138779908, 690955}, NULL) = 0 23:45:08.691362 gettimeofday({1138779908, 691458}, NULL) = 0 23:45:08.691588 socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 14 23:45:08.691796 setsockopt(14, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, [1], 4) = 0 23:45:08.691992 bind(14, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/orbit-miles/linc-fb1-0-e37fae4a8d02"}, 43) = 0 23:45:08.692373 listen(14, 10) = 0 23:45:08.692577 fcntl64(14, F_SETFL, O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 23:45:08.692725 fcntl64(14, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 23:45:08.692902 getsockname(14, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/orbit-miles/linc-fb1-0-e37fae4a8d02"}, [43]) = 0 23:45:08.693260 writev(13, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0|\1\0\0", 12}, {"\320\332\325\277\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0R\336"..., 380}], 2) = 392 23:45:08.694254 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}], 3, -1) = 2 23:45:08.694524 read(13, "GIOP\1\2\1\1$\0\0\0", 12) = 12 23:45:08.694703 read(13, "\320\332\325\277\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1"..., 36) = 36 23:45:08.694968 accept(14, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=; "}, [2]) = 15 23:45:08.695291 fcntl64(15, F_SETFL, O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 0 23:45:08.695440 fcntl64(15, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 23:45:08.695703 writev(13, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0d\0\0\0", 12}, {" \333\325\277\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0R\336\304"..., 100}], 2) = 112 23:45:08.696161 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=15, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 23:45:08.696370 read(13, "GIOP\1\2\1\1L\1\0\0", 12) = 12 23:45:08.696545 read(13, " \333\325\277\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1"..., 332) = 332 23:45:08.697298 writev(13, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\315\1\0\0", 12}, {"\20\333\325\277\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0R\336\304"..., 44}, {"\35\0\0\0add_listener_with_properties"..., 36}, {"\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1\0\1\5\t\1\1\0\0\0\0"..., 381}], 4) = 473 23:45:08.698077 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=15, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 23:45:08.698290 read(13, "GIOP\1\2\1\1(\0\0\0", 12) = 12 23:45:08.698466 read(13, "\20\333\325\277\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1"..., 40) = 40 23:45:08.698814 writev(13, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\230\0\0\0", 12}, {"\220\332\325\277\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0R\336"..., 44}, {"\35\0\0\0all_entries_with_schema_name"..., 36}, {"\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1\0\1\5\t\1\1\0\0\0\0"..., 72}], 4) = 164 23:45:08.699703 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=15, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 23:45:08.699916 read(13, "GIOP\1\2\1\1\316\0\0\0", 12) = 12 23:45:08.700108 read(13, "\220\332\325\277\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1"..., 206) = 206 23:45:08.700836 writev(13, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0`\0\0\0", 12}, {"p\332\325\277\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0R\336\304"..., 96}], 2) = 108 23:45:08.701376 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=15, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 23:45:08.701590 read(13, "GIOP\1\2\1\1$\0\0\0", 12) = 12 23:45:08.701768 read(13, "p\332\325\277\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1"..., 36) = 36 23:45:08.702076 writev(13, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\305\1\0\0", 12}, {"\300\332\325\277\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0R\336"..., 44}, {"\35\0\0\0add_listener_with_properties"..., 36}, {"\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1\0\1\5\t\1\1\0\0\0\0"..., 373}], 4) = 465 23:45:08.702746 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=15, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 23:45:08.702960 read(13, "GIOP\1\2\1\1(\0\0\0", 12) = 12 23:45:08.703160 read(13, "\300\332\325\277\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1"..., 40) = 40 23:45:08.703528 writev(13, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\325\1\0\0", 12}, {"\300\332\325\277\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0R\336"..., 44}, {"\35\0\0\0add_listener_with_properties"..., 36}, {"\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1\0\1\5\t\1\1\0\0\0\0"..., 389}], 4) = 481 23:45:08.704441 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=15, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 23:45:08.704655 read(13, "GIOP\1\2\1\1(\0\0\0", 12) = 12 23:45:08.704830 read(13, "\300\332\325\277\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1"..., 40) = 40 23:45:08.705311 writev(13, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\241\0\0\0", 12}, {"P\332\325\277\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0R\336\304"..., 161}], 2) = 173 23:45:08.705857 poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=15, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 4, -1) = 1 23:45:08.706128 read(13, "GIOP\1\2\1\1a\0\0\0", 12) = 12 23:45:08.706306 read(13, "P\332\325\277\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\f\0\0\0\1\1\1\1\1"..., 97) = 97 23:45:08.721533 open("/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-mahjongg.png", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 16 23:45:08.721863 fstat64(16, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=3044, ...}) = 0 23:45:08.722139 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f6a000 23:45:08.722308 read(16, "\211PNG\r\n\32\n\0\0\0\rIHDR\0\0\0000\0\0\0000\10\6\0\0"..., 4096) = 3044 23:45:08.722636 access("/etc/gtk-2.0/i386-redhat-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf.loaders", F_OK) = 0 23:45:08.722891 open("/etc/gtk-2.0/i386-redhat-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf.loaders", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 17 23:45:08.723122 fstat64(17, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=3125, ...}) = 0 23:45:08.723398 read(17, "# GdkPixbuf Image Loader Modules"..., 1024) = 1024 23:45:08.724065 read(17, "s/libpixbufloader-png.so\"\n\"png\" "..., 1024) = 1024 23:45:08.724593 read(17, "\n\"/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders"..., 1024) = 1024 23:45:08.725133 read(17, "\\003\" \"xz \" 100\n\" \\n\" \"xz \" 100"..., 1024) = 53 23:45:08.725342 read(17, "", 1024) = 0 23:45:08.725547 close(17) = 0 23:45:08.725871 stat64("/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=15612, ...}) = 0 23:45:08.726517 futex(0x78306c, FUTEX_WAKE, 2147483647) = 0 23:45:08.726780 open("/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so", O_RDONLY) = 17 23:45:08.727004 read(17, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\260\24"..., 512) = 512 23:45:08.727242 fstat64(17, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=15612, ...}) = 0 23:45:08.727503 mmap2(NULL, 18476, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 17, 0) = 0xb7f65000 23:45:08.727672 mmap2(0xb7f69000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 17, 0x3) = 0xb7f69000 23:45:08.727856 close(17) = 0 23:45:08.728757 open("/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:45:08.728993 open("/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:45:08.729229 open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:45:08.729432 open("/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:45:08.729640 open("/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:45:08.729846 open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 23:45:08.730294 _llseek(16, 0, [0], SEEK_SET) = 0 23:45:08.730931 read(16, "\211PNG\r\n\32\n\0\0\0\rIHDR\0\0\0000\0\0\0000\10\6\0\0"..., 4096) = 3044 23:45:08.732507 brk(0x80d8000) = 0x80d8000 23:45:08.734572 close(16) = 0 23:45:08.734739 munmap(0xb7f6a000, 4096) = 0 23:45:08.735159 open(".", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 16 23:45:08.735349 fstat64(16, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 23:45:08.735599 fcntl64(16, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 23:45:08.735769 getdents64(16, /* 69 entries */, 4096) = 2424 23:45:08.739137 getdents64(16, /* 0 entries */, 4096) = 0 23:45:08.739316 close(16) = 0 23:45:08.739501 open("/usr/share/gnome-games/mahjongg/maps", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 16 23:45:08.739709 fstat64(16, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 23:45:08.739949 fcntl64(16, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 23:45:08.740173 getdents64(16, /* 3 entries */, 4096) = 80 23:45:08.740444 stat64("/usr/share/gnome-games/mahjongg/maps/mahjongg.map", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=3363, ...}) = 0 23:45:08.740775 getdents64(16, /* 0 entries */, 4096) = 0 23:45:08.740965 close(16) = 0 23:45:08.741197 open("/usr/share/gnome-games/mahjongg/maps/mahjongg.map", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 16 23:45:08.741413 fstat64(16, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=3363, ...}) = 0 23:45:08.741637 read(16, " Processing Conflict: kudzu conflicts kernel < 2.6.13 --> Processing Conflict: initscripts conflicts kernel < 2.6.12 --> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes. --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. --> Running transaction check Error: Unable to satisfy dependencies Error: Package kudzu needs kernel < 2.6.13, this is not available. Error: Package initscripts needs kernel < 2.6.12, this is not available. Is there something I'm missing with this? From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 13:44:33 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:44:33 -0500 Subject: Fedora 5 {test,development} on G5? In-Reply-To: <200602010856.k118u81E017544@guild.plethora.net> References: <200602010856.k118u81E017544@guild.plethora.net> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602010544o33b3f528t575de9fe52417350@mail.gmail.com> On 2/1/06, Peter Seebach wrote: > Hi! I have been told that I must make a very fast PPC system run Linux, as > soon as possible. Speed? As in a fast build or "fast/quick" operation? I built my iMac 350MHz system in 3 hours - but once installed it performs quite well. > The obvious candidate would be Fedora 5 test releases, since the quad G5 > doesn't work with much older stuff. FC5Test2 is very nice once it is installed. > With FC5 test2, I had no joy even booting all the way. > > With FC5 "development", I got a bootable CD (yay!), then spent a day > downloading RPMs. At the end of this, I tried to run the install. I > pointed the installer at the Fedora/ppc64 (I am a ppc64, yes?) directory Actually, the G5 processor is 128-bits but ... The Linux "G5" can run the PPC32 branch at the very least -- it probably should run PPC64 but why choose 64 bits? The G5 will perform under PPC32 quite well for a production system -- 64 bits (while others may argue otherwise) is mainly for very high end database applications. > on the machine I did the downloads on, and it said it was fetching > "Fedora/base/stage2.img". Then it announced that these files did not match > my boot media. The Rescue CD is PPC64 -- try starting the installer off that. > 1. Am I even barking up the right tree? Do quad G5's run Linux? Do they > run Fedora in particular? Are test/development releases the way to go? > 2. Assuming it might be productive for me to install a test release, is > there some obvious pilot error in trying to boot from the boot.iso image > and load the files from .../development/ppc64? Don't know per se; why not try the PPC32 Rawhide branch Historically the PPC64 is for the PPC9xx series of (AIX-related) PowerPC processors (but I could be wrong about that so YMMV.) Personally, I would try the FC5T2 PPC32 branch before surrendering. Lastly, if Apple is listening -- I have not had the honor of sitting in front of a Quad G5 (if Apple is listening I do have the time to test such a beast -- hint hint ;) -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Wed Feb 1 13:45:18 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:45:18 +0100 Subject: SATA question In-Reply-To: <43E0B243.80003@cornell.edu> References: <43DFFDC7.8040107@cornell.edu> <43E07C87.10005@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E0A80D.3060209@cornell.edu> <43E0AF82.1000308@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E0B243.80003@cornell.edu> Message-ID: <43E0BB6E.2050507@feuerpokemon.de> Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > >>> It's nice to know my SATA II drive is so much superior :) >> >> >> If the rpm, number of platters, and data encoding stay the same, so >> will the performance, broadly speaking, 8MB or 16MB of cache will >> only have an effect if you're doing reading that fits a certain >> pattern, and as we've seen the physical disk couldn't even half fill >> an ATA133 interface (let alone SATA, or SATA II) only cache reads can >> do that. > > Why are my cache reads so much slower than yours (by a factor of 2)? > A friend of mine has SATA I, with 1800 MB/s cached reads, which is > also much better. > > /sbin/hdparm -Tt /dev/sda /dev/sda: Timing cached reads: 5428 MB in 2.00 seconds = 2713.83 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 174 MB in 3.00 seconds = 58.00 MB/sec ----------------- /sbin/hdparm -Tt /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing cached reads: 5532 MB in 2.00 seconds = 2765.83 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 90 MB in 3.01 seconds = 29.92 MB/sec ---- this has more to do with the cpu/memory speed, but nothing with the interface I have a AMD64 with DDR474Mhz Ram and getting the speeds listed above. From alan at redhat.com Wed Feb 1 13:46:19 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:46:19 -0500 Subject: SATA question In-Reply-To: <43E0B919.9030402@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <43E0B243.80003@cornell.edu> <43E0B919.9030402@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <20060201134619.GC27011@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:35:21PM +0000, Andy Burns wrote: > Now I'm scratching my head too, even with SATA II = 3Gb/s = 3000Mb/s = > 300MB/s how can hdparm -T show me 2229MB/sec? I though hdparm -T didn't > test o/s memory caching, just drive caching? It measures cached I/O performance from main memory versus the drive. Alan From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 1 13:47:35 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:17:35 +0530 Subject: Upgrading clean FC4 install to latest devel/rawhide In-Reply-To: <55660.10.1.1.124.1138801431.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <55660.10.1.1.124.1138801431.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <43E0BBF7.3090708@fedoraproject.org> Steven Haigh wrote: >Hi all, > >Sorry if this is a very newbie question, however I'm trying to upgrade a >fresh install of FC4 on a machine with the fedora-devel and >fedora-extras-devel repos. I've disabled all other repo's in >/etc/yum.repo.d except fedora-devel and fedora-extras-devel. > >So, I've dropped to a terminal session, and typed in "yum upgrade" > >It then scrolls past a ton of packages and marks them as set to be >updated, however after a while, it fails with: > >--> Processing Conflict: kudzu conflicts kernel < 2.6.13 >--> Processing Conflict: initscripts conflicts kernel < 2.6.12 >--> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes. >--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. >--> Running transaction check >Error: Unable to satisfy dependencies >Error: Package kudzu needs kernel < 2.6.13, this is not available. >Error: Package initscripts needs kernel < 2.6.12, this is not available. > >Is there something I'm missing with this? > > > Refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Wed Feb 1 13:47:54 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:47:54 +0000 Subject: SATA question In-Reply-To: <43E0B919.9030402@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <43DFFDC7.8040107@cornell.edu><43E07C87.10005@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E0A80D.3060209@cornell.edu><43E0AF82.1000308@adslpipe.co.uk><43E0B243.80003@cornell.edu> <43E0B919.9030402@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <43E0BC0A.9020606@adslpipe.co.uk> Andy Burns wrote: > Now I'm scratching my head too, OK, having looked at hdparm man page for -T "This displays the speed of reading directly from the Linux buffer cache without disk access. This measurement is essentially an indication of the throughput of the processor, cache, and memory of the system under test. If the -t flag is also specified, then a correction factor based on the outcome of -T will be incorporated into the result reported for the -t operation." I always though -T just repeatedly read one sectore from disk's on baord cache repeatedly, clearly I have always been wrong, that is what "-t" does :-( I thought "-t" read a file large enough to overflow the onboard disk cache, so actually I'm pleased my dmrebuild test does actually give the same speed. And the difference in your 2228MB/s, my 4456MB/s and your friends 1800MB/s are down to motherboard/cpu/memory, mine is P4 630 with dual DDR2 667MHz From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Wed Feb 1 13:52:17 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:52:17 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: udev-071-0.FC4.2 In-Reply-To: <200601311644.k0VGii110321@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> References: <200601311644.k0VGii110321@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E0BD11.60308@feuerpokemon.de> Harald Hoyer wrote: >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Fedora Test Update Notification >FEDORA-2006-071 >2006-01-31 >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Product : Fedora Core 4 >Name : udev >Version : 071 >Release : 0.FC4.2 >Summary : A userspace implementation of devfs >Description : >udev is a implementation of devfs in userspace using sysfs and >/sbin/hotplug. It requires a 2.6 kernel to run properly. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Update Information: > >For kernels >= 2.6.15 a newer udev version is necessary. >Please update to this or newer udev versions, before you >boot a new kernel. > >This second update also should fix the firmware loading. >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >* Tue Jan 31 2006 Harald Hoyer - 071-0.FC4.2 >- removed firmware_helper rule, which conflicts with hotplug firmware helper >* Wed Jan 25 2006 Harald Hoyer - 071-0.FC4.1 >- version 071 for FC-4 >* Mon Oct 10 2005 Harald Hoyer - 069-10 >- removed group usb >* Mon Oct 10 2005 Harald Hoyer - 069-9 >- added libsepol-devel BuildReq >- refined persistent rules >* Mon Oct 10 2005 Harald Hoyer - 069-8 >- corrected c&p edd_id rule, symlink for js devices >- added -lsepol >* Thu Oct 6 2005 Harald Hoyer - 069-7 >- added edd_id > > using this udev and kernel 2.6.15-1.1829_FC4 my IDE hardisk does not got dma enabled during boot: ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: dma_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78156288, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: dma_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78156288, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: dma_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78156288, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown ide0: reset: success hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 78156288 Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 78156288 hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown ide0: reset: success hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown ide0: reset: success hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 78156288 Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 78156288 hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown ide0: reset: success hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { Secto but enabling it using hdparm works (and also does not show any errors). lspci: 00:00.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller (rev a3) 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev a3) 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2) 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a3) 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev a2) 00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev a3) 00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2) 00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3) 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) 01:07.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 0a) 01:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80) 01:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 13) 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7800 GTX (rev a1) should I fill a bug? against udev or kernel? From netwiz at crc.id.au Wed Feb 1 13:52:30 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 00:52:30 +1100 Subject: Upgrading clean FC4 install to latest devel/rawhide In-Reply-To: <43E0BBF7.3090708@fedoraproject.org> References: <55660.10.1.1.124.1138801431.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <43E0BBF7.3090708@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <3A5F9D0B-1F54-4C1D-ACA9-400BACE18BFB@crc.id.au> On 02/02/2006, at 12:47 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Steven Haigh wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry if this is a very newbie question, however I'm trying to >> upgrade a >> fresh install of FC4 on a machine with the fedora-devel and >> fedora-extras-devel repos. I've disabled all other repo's in >> /etc/yum.repo.d except fedora-devel and fedora-extras-devel. >> >> So, I've dropped to a terminal session, and typed in "yum upgrade" >> >> It then scrolls past a ton of packages and marks them as set to be >> updated, however after a while, it fails with: >> >> --> Processing Conflict: kudzu conflicts kernel < 2.6.13 >> --> Processing Conflict: initscripts conflicts kernel < 2.6.12 >> --> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes. >> --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. >> --> Running transaction check >> Error: Unable to satisfy dependencies >> Error: Package kudzu needs kernel < 2.6.13, this is not available. >> Error: Package initscripts needs kernel < 2.6.12, this is not >> available. >> >> Is there something I'm missing with this? >> >> > Refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide. Yeah - as is always the way, I found this URL around 10 seconds after hitting send on the email. My bad. Thanks for the quick reply though :) -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Wed Feb 1 13:53:57 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:53:57 +0000 Subject: SATA question In-Reply-To: <20060201134619.GC27011@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <43E0B243.80003@cornell.edu> <43E0B919.9030402@adslpipe.co.uk> <20060201134619.GC27011@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E0BD75.5080907@adslpipe.co.uk> Alan Cox wrote: > It measures cached I/O performance from main memory versus the drive. Yes thanks, it started to dawn on me that there was a gaping hole in my understanding so I re-read the docs, I thought the difference between -T and -t was disk's cache to mobo, compared to disk's surface to mobo WRONG!! From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 14:01:08 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:01:08 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: udev-071-0.FC4.2 In-Reply-To: <43E0BD11.60308@feuerpokemon.de> References: <200601311644.k0VGii110321@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> <43E0BD11.60308@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602010601x6d0cda29o3c7ee264f325e2c9@mail.gmail.com> On 2/1/06, dragoran wrote: > Harald Hoyer wrote: > dma enabled during boot: > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > hda: dma_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, > should I fill a bug? against udev or kernel? I see these same things on PPC and I feel they are kernel related. -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From ivg2 at cornell.edu Wed Feb 1 14:04:14 2006 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:04:14 -0500 Subject: SATA question In-Reply-To: <43E0BC0A.9020606@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <43DFFDC7.8040107@cornell.edu><43E07C87.10005@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E0A80D.3060209@cornell.edu><43E0AF82.1000308@adslpipe.co.uk><43E0B243.80003@cornell.edu> <43E0B919.9030402@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E0BC0A.9020606@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <43E0BFDE.2030107@cornell.edu> > > And the difference in your 2228MB/s, my 4456MB/s and your friends > 1800MB/s are down to motherboard/cpu/memory, mine is P4 630 with dual > DDR2 667MHz I thought you got 2228MB/s ? Anyway, let's summarize. Me: 400Mhz single-channel Kingston 1GB, Athlon64 3700+ 1MB L2, hdparm: 1200 MB/s Friend: 3200 Corsair dual-channel, hdparm: 1800 MB/s you: p4 630 dual ddr2 667Mhz, hdparm: === Hmm... allright. I guess dual channel helps. It no longer seems like an intelligent idea to remove my PATA drive from the LVM group for reasons of speed, it has exactly the same performance as the other one, and I get extra 80G (and not having to deal with the rescue CD to shrink partitions - which btw doesn't work at the moment) From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Wed Feb 1 14:08:31 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:08:31 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: udev-071-0.FC4.2 In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602010601x6d0cda29o3c7ee264f325e2c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <200601311644.k0VGii110321@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> <43E0BD11.60308@feuerpokemon.de> <91f88ee20602010601x6d0cda29o3c7ee264f325e2c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E0C0DF.5060505@feuerpokemon.de> Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: >On 2/1/06, dragoran wrote: > > >>Harald Hoyer wrote: >> >> > > > >>dma enabled during boot: >>ide: failed opcode was: unknown >>hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } >>hda: dma_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, >> >> > > > >>should I fill a bug? against udev or kernel? >> >> > > >I see these same things on PPC and I feel they are kernel related. >-- >WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting > > > bug created: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179564 From alan at redhat.com Wed Feb 1 14:25:38 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:25:38 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: udev-071-0.FC4.2 In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602010601x6d0cda29o3c7ee264f325e2c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <200601311644.k0VGii110321@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> <43E0BD11.60308@feuerpokemon.de> <91f88ee20602010601x6d0cda29o3c7ee264f325e2c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060201142538.GA13590@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:01:08AM -0500, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > On 2/1/06, dragoran wrote: > > Harald Hoyer wrote: > > > dma enabled during boot: > > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > > hda: dma_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, > > > should I fill a bug? against udev or kernel? > > I see these same things on PPC and I feel they are kernel related. SectorIdNotFound is not a good thing to be seeing, definitely log this and also check the SMART data on the drive. There are two usual causes 1. Disk failure 2. The kernel low level somehow requesting a non existant block number on the drive. That usually implies fs corruption so forcing an fsck may be useful. The smart report should help tell 1 from 2. From gilboad at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 14:26:33 2006 From: gilboad at gmail.com (Gilboa Davara) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:26:33 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: udev-071-0.FC4.2 In-Reply-To: <43E0BD11.60308@feuerpokemon.de> References: <200601311644.k0VGii110321@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> <43E0BD11.60308@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <1138803993.7598.31.camel@gilboa-work-dev> On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 14:52 +0100, dragoran wrote: > Harald Hoyer wrote: > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Fedora Test Update Notification > >FEDORA-2006-071 > >2006-01-31 > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Product : Fedora Core 4 > >Name : udev > >Version : 071 > >Release : 0.FC4.2 > >Summary : A userspace implementation of devfs > >Description : > >udev is a implementation of devfs in userspace using sysfs and > >/sbin/hotplug. It requires a 2.6 kernel to run properly. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Update Information: > > > >For kernels >= 2.6.15 a newer udev version is necessary. > >Please update to this or newer udev versions, before you > >boot a new kernel. > > > >This second update also should fix the firmware loading. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >* Tue Jan 31 2006 Harald Hoyer - 071-0.FC4.2 > >- removed firmware_helper rule, which conflicts with hotplug firmware helper > >* Wed Jan 25 2006 Harald Hoyer - 071-0.FC4.1 > >- version 071 for FC-4 > >* Mon Oct 10 2005 Harald Hoyer - 069-10 > >- removed group usb > >* Mon Oct 10 2005 Harald Hoyer - 069-9 > >- added libsepol-devel BuildReq > >- refined persistent rules > >* Mon Oct 10 2005 Harald Hoyer - 069-8 > >- corrected c&p edd_id rule, symlink for js devices > >- added -lsepol > >* Thu Oct 6 2005 Harald Hoyer - 069-7 > >- added edd_id > > > > > using this udev and kernel 2.6.15-1.1829_FC4 my IDE hardisk does not got > dma enabled during boot: > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > hda: dma_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78156288, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > hda: dma_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78156288, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > hda: dma_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78156288, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: DMA disabled > ide0: reset: success > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > ide0: reset: success > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 78156288 > Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 78156288 > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > ide0: reset: success > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > ide0: reset: success > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 78156288 > Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 78156288 > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > ide0: reset: success > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > sector=78156288 > ide: failed opcode was: unknown > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { Secto > but enabling it using hdparm works (and also does not show any errors). > lspci: > 00:00.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller > (rev a3) > 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev a3) > 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2) > 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2) > 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a3) > 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev a2) > 00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller > (rev a3) > 00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2) > 00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3) > 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) > 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) > 00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) > 00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) > 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] > HyperTransport Technology Configuration > 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] > Address Map > 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] > DRAM Controller > 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] > Miscellaneous Control > 01:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) > 01:07.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port > (rev 0a) > 01:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host > Controller (rev 80) > 01:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 > Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 13) > 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7800 GTX > (rev a1) > > should I fill a bug? against udev or kernel? > I'm seeing something very similar on my SCSI setup. New udev works just fine against older kernel (2.6.13), but the kernel barfs a lot of OOPs messages with latest kernel. I'll post a complete bug report during the week-end; can't afford to bring the machine down for further testing. Gilboa From alan at redhat.com Wed Feb 1 14:28:11 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:28:11 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: udev-071-0.FC4.2 In-Reply-To: <1138803993.7598.31.camel@gilboa-work-dev> References: <200601311644.k0VGii110321@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> <43E0BD11.60308@feuerpokemon.de> <1138803993.7598.31.camel@gilboa-work-dev> Message-ID: <20060201142811.GA15157@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 04:26:33PM +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > > sector=78156288 What size is /dev/hda From ch at code-heads.com Wed Feb 1 14:40:37 2006 From: ch at code-heads.com (CodeHeads) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:40:37 -0500 Subject: Evolution - Update In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0602010508x3341a4aar5c1a67ec80230258@mail.gmail.com> References: <43E0AFB7.4030401@gmail.com> <5256d0b0602010508x3341a4aar5c1a67ec80230258@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1138804837.2430.5.camel@FC5> On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 13:08 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote: > On 2/1/06, Doug Fordham wrote: > > For some reason, this didn't make it last night... > > > > The gtkhtml fix made it into last nights rawhide. It fixed the instant > lock up that I was seeing over the last couple of days but it is yet > to fix the crash after about 5 minutes of running bug that I've been > seeing for the while evo 2.5.x series. > > pete > I hope I understand this (Not enough coffee yet), the updates for today for evolution still freezes the app?? I did not do any updates yet, should I? -- Best regards, ~WILL~ Public Key: 0xC8E166BB Key: http://code-heads.com/keys/ch1.asc Linux Registered User: 406084 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Wed Feb 1 14:40:02 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:40:02 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: udev-071-0.FC4.2 In-Reply-To: <20060201142811.GA15157@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200601311644.k0VGii110321@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> <43E0BD11.60308@feuerpokemon.de> <1138803993.7598.31.camel@gilboa-work-dev> <20060201142811.GA15157@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E0C842.6090009@feuerpokemon.de> Alan Cox wrote: >On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 04:26:33PM +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > >>>hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } >>>hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, >>>sector=78156288 >>> >>> > >What size is /dev/hda > > > 40GB ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: max request size: 128KiB hda: Host Protected Area detected. current capacity is 78156288 sectors (40016 MB) native capacity is 78156289 sectors (40016 MB) hda: Host Protected Area disabled. hda: 78156289 sectors (40016 MB) w/1024KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) hda: cache flushes not supported hda: hda1 what smart info should I post? From pgraner at redhat.com Wed Feb 1 14:43:35 2006 From: pgraner at redhat.com (Pete Graner) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:43:35 -0500 Subject: thunderbird icon In-Reply-To: <43E0AF31.8070307@gmail.com> References: <43E08D3E.7030706@adslpipe.co.uk> <6c3f5e6c0602010338x4f227df4lceb32cad0f977014@mail.gmail.com> <43E0AF31.8070307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E0C917.4060208@redhat.com> Doug Fordham wrote: > gb spam wrote: >> On 2/1/06, Andy Burns wrote: >> >>> OK, >>> >>> I've had a bug filed on this for quite a while now, with no response, >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177823 >>> >>> Can I just check from any FC5 thunderbird users (not everyone else can >>> be using evolution, right?) do you get a proper icon in the task list, >>> the alt-tab switcher and the window title bar, or just a grey square? >>> >>> This sounds like a fairly trivial issue, but it makes it hard to quickly >>> spot a running instance when you want to task switch. The icon is OK >>> from the Applications/Internet menu BTW. >>> >> >> I get the generic X app icon on KDE (FC5T2) >> >> > confirm the same -- generic X-App in tasklist under Gnome with FC5-test2 > install with daily updates... Ditto... on PPC Pete > -- Pete Graner email: From lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net Wed Feb 1 14:47:22 2006 From: lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 07:47:22 -0700 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:09:18 PST." Message-ID: <20060201144722.7547.qmail@lwn.net> Miles Lane wrote: > When I use "emacs &", it doesn't mean I want to continue what I was > doing in the shell and use emacs later. In my usage, it means that > I want to be _able_ to switch back and forth between emacs and > shell commands, but I want to use emacs immediately. When I type "ooffice file.odt &" it doesn't mean I want to stop all work on anything else until openoffice gets around to talking to me. if I type "gthumb image.jpg &" it means I want to see the image, but I don't necessarily want to type at it. I have to say that the new focus behavior has improved my life considerably. I hope it doesn't go away. jon From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Wed Feb 1 14:57:48 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:57:48 +0000 Subject: SATA question In-Reply-To: <43E0BFDE.2030107@cornell.edu> References: <43DFFDC7.8040107@cornell.edu><43E07C87.10005@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E0A80D.3060209@cornell.edu><43E0AF82.1000308@adslpipe.co.uk><43E0B243.80003@cornell.edu> <43E0B919.9030402@adslpipe.co.uk><43E0BC0A.9020606@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E0BFDE.2030107@cornell.edu> Message-ID: <43E0CC6C.1040508@adslpipe.co.uk> Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > I thought you got 2228MB/s ? You're right, copy and paste error from "4456 MB in 2.00 seconds = 2229.43 MB/sec", 4456MB/s would be truly impressive. > Me: 400Mhz single-channel Kingston 1GB, Athlon64 3700+ 1MB L2, hdparm: > 1200 MB/s > Friend: 3200 Corsair dual-channel, hdparm: 1800 MB/s > you: p4 630 dual ddr2 667Mhz, hdparm: yes it was 2228MB/s and dragoran get 2765.83 MB/s on his AMD64 DDR474 > Hmm... allright. I guess dual channel helps. I should hope so ... > It no longer seems like an intelligent idea to remove my PATA drive from > the LVM group for reasons of speed, it has exactly the same performance > as the other one, and I get extra 80G (and not having to deal with the > rescue CD to shrink partitions - which btw doesn't work at the moment) Have you tried LVM on RAID0 (if you can stand the loss of reliability) I can't remember the hdparm numbers I got from it, I think it was not quite linear for the uncached part i.e. > 100MB/s, will test again soon. I think it is also possible to do LVM stripe straight onto the disks, rather than LVM on top of mdraid stripe, but I can't seem to do it in the installer, perhaps that's considered too esoteric for anaconda, and I could manage it if left the space and created the LVM by hand afterwards. Not sure if there would be a speed advantage by reducing the layering. I will eventually split my 2x250GB drives something like 2x50GB mirrored and 2x200GB striped, to give me a reliable area and a large/fast area. From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Wed Feb 1 15:06:55 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:06:55 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: udev-071-0.FC4.2 In-Reply-To: <43E0C842.6090009@feuerpokemon.de> References: <200601311644.k0VGii110321@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> <43E0BD11.60308@feuerpokemon.de> <1138803993.7598.31.camel@gilboa-work-dev> <20060201142811.GA15157@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43E0C842.6090009@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <43E0CE8F.7000309@feuerpokemon.de> dragoran wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 04:26:33PM +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: >> >> >>>> hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete >>>> DataRequest Error } >>>> hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, >>>> LBAsect=78221567, sector=78156288 >>>> >>> >> >> What size is /dev/hda >> >> > 40GB > ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 > hda: max request size: 128KiB > hda: Host Protected Area detected. > current capacity is 78156288 sectors (40016 MB) > native capacity is 78156289 sectors (40016 MB) > hda: Host Protected Area disabled. > hda: 78156289 sectors (40016 MB) w/1024KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, > UDMA(100) > hda: cache flushes not supported > hda: hda1 > what smart info should I post? > smartctl -l error /dev/hda smartctl version 5.33 [x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce AllenHome page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART Error Log Version: 1 ATA Error Count: 101 (device log contains only the most recent five errors) CR = Command Register [HEX] FR = Features Register [HEX] SC = Sector Count Register [HEX] SN = Sector Number Register [HEX] CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX] CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX] DH = Device/Head Register [HEX] DC = Device Command Register [HEX] ER = Error register [HEX] ST = Status register [HEX] Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes, SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days. Error 101 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13962 hours (581 days + 18 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 84 51 00 00 00 00 f0 Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x00000000 = 0 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 01 00 00 00 f0 00 00:00:14.471 READ DMA b0 da 00 00 4f c2 f0 00 00:00:14.364 SMART RETURN STATUS b0 d2 00 00 4f c2 f0 00 00:00:14.364 SMART ENABLE/DISABLE ATTRIBUTE AUTOSAVE b0 d8 00 00 4f c2 f0 00 00:00:14.364 SMART ENABLE OPERATIONS 91 00 3f 00 00 00 ff 00 00:00:14.364 INITIALIZE DEVICE PARAMETERS [OBS-6] Error 100 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13962 hours (581 days + 18 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 84 51 00 01 00 00 b1 Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x01000001 = 16777217 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 40 01 00 00 b1 00 00:01:37.756 READ DMA c8 00 40 01 00 00 b1 00 00:01:37.285 READ DMA 10 00 3f 00 00 00 b0 00 00:01:37.285 RECALIBRATE [OBS-4] c8 00 40 01 00 00 b1 00 00:01:36.821 READ DMA c8 00 40 01 00 00 b1 00 00:01:36.385 READ DMA Error 99 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13962 hours (581 days + 18 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 84 51 00 01 00 00 b1 Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x01000001 = 16777217 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 40 01 00 00 b1 00 00:01:37.285 READ DMA 10 00 3f 00 00 00 b0 00 00:01:37.285 RECALIBRATE [OBS-4] c8 00 40 01 00 00 b1 00 00:01:36.821 READ DMA c8 00 40 01 00 00 b1 00 00:01:36.385 READ DMA c8 00 08 01 00 00 b0 00 00:01:35.643 READ DMA Error 98 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13962 hours (581 days + 18 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 84 51 00 01 00 00 b1 Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x01000001 = 16777217 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 40 01 00 00 b1 00 00:01:36.821 READ DMA c8 00 40 01 00 00 b1 00 00:01:36.385 READ DMA c8 00 08 01 00 00 b0 00 00:01:35.643 READ DMA c6 00 10 00 00 00 b0 00 00:01:35.643 SET MULTIPLE MODE 10 00 3f 00 00 00 b0 00 00:01:35.643 RECALIBRATE [OBS-4] Error 97 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13962 hours (581 days + 18 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 84 51 00 01 00 00 b1 Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x01000001 = 16777217 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 40 01 00 00 b1 00 00:01:36.385 READ DMA c8 00 08 01 00 00 b0 00 00:01:35.643 READ DMA c6 00 10 00 00 00 b0 00 00:01:35.643 SET MULTIPLE MODE 10 00 3f 00 00 00 b0 00 00:01:35.643 RECALIBRATE [OBS-4] 91 00 3f 3f ff 3b bf 00 00:01:35.643 INITIALIZE DEVICE PARAMETERS [OBS-6] From gilboad at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 15:08:11 2006 From: gilboad at gmail.com (Gilboa Davara) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:08:11 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: udev-071-0.FC4.2 In-Reply-To: <20060201142811.GA15157@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200601311644.k0VGii110321@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> <43E0BD11.60308@feuerpokemon.de> <1138803993.7598.31.camel@gilboa-work-dev> <20060201142811.GA15157@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1138806491.7598.42.camel@gilboa-work-dev> On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 09:28 -0500, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 04:26:33PM +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > > hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } > > > hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > > > sector=78156288 > > What size is /dev/hda > The OP had IDE unknown request problems. I'm getting kernel OOPs since when using the latest kernel + -test udev combo. (on a SCSI MD5 setup) With the older udev, machine was stable. I'll post a complete bug report later this week. Gilboa From rowan at stasis.org Wed Feb 1 15:12:16 2006 From: rowan at stasis.org (Rowan Kerr) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:12:16 -0500 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <20060201144722.7547.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20060201144722.7547.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <43E0CFD0.9050103@stasis.org> Jonathan Corbet wrote: > When I type "ooffice file.odt &" it doesn't mean I want to stop all work > on anything else until openoffice gets around to talking to me. if I > type "gthumb image.jpg &" it means I want to see the image, but I don't > necessarily want to type at it. I have to say that the new focus > behavior has improved my life considerably. I hope it doesn't go away. I like the general behaviour and haven't noticed the Metacity implementation of it getting in my way yet. Apple has implemented this in OS X's WM and it's a huge relief to not have to worry about new applications jumping in front of what you are currently working on. Some applications don't seem to play nicely in OS X though, like Firefox.. so I don't know exactly what Apple's done but a quick study of the OS X behaviour should probably be done to see what their compromises are and apply that knowledge to Metacity. -Rowan From netwiz at crc.id.au Wed Feb 1 15:11:39 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 02:11:39 +1100 Subject: Latest Dovecot in 20060201 breaks imap Message-ID: dovecot-1.0-0.beta2.2 --------------------- * Tue Jan 31 2006 Petr Rockai - 1.0-0.beta2.2 - update URL in description - call dovecot --build-ssl-parameters in postinst as per #179430 After installing this update, OSX's Mail.app program now refuses to talk via IMAP to the dovecot server. Using IMAPS on port 993 works, however not without SSL on port 143. the log in /var/log/maillog shows: Feb 2 02:02:48 zeus dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login: rip=203.56.246.84, lip=203.56.246.81 Feb 2 02:03:19 zeus last message repeated 10 times Feb 2 02:03:48 zeus dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login: rip=203.56.246.84, lip=203.56.246.81 interestingly enough, Squirrelmail can still use localhost:143 ok as it's IMAP mail source. I can also telnet to the server and get a banner. # telnet zeus.crc.id.au 143 Trying 203.56.246.81... Connected to zeus.crc.id.au (203.56.246.81). Escape character is '^]'. * OK Dovecot ready. Do we know exactly what changed in this update? -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Wed Feb 1 15:20:08 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:20:08 +0000 Subject: Latest Dovecot in 20060201 breaks imap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43E0D1A8.1010809@adslpipe.co.uk> Steven Haigh wrote: > Do we know exactly what changed in this update? Mark McLoughlin pointed out this ... http://wiki.dovecot.org/UpgradingDovecot From rowan at stasis.org Wed Feb 1 15:22:27 2006 From: rowan at stasis.org (Rowan Kerr) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:22:27 -0500 Subject: lastest udev broken? In-Reply-To: <43E07C7A.3040504@redhat.com> References: <43DE54DF.9050503@feuerpokemon.de> <43DE55FA.2080608@feuerpokemon.de> <43DF8250.5080207@redhat.com> <43DF8D41.6080403@feuerpokemon.de> <43E07C7A.3040504@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E0D233.1060201@stasis.org> Harald Hoyer wrote: >>>> dragoran wrote: >>>>> I updated my rawhide box today and got such messages on boot: >>>>> don't know how to create tty1 >>>>> don't know how to create tty2 For what it's worth, I've been getting the same error. But don't have MAKEDEV installed. (Installed from FC5T2 disc and have used pup to update to Rawhide). >>> # rpm -qf /sbin/MAKEDEV file /sbin/MAKEDEV is not owned by any package >>> # rpm -V MAKEDEV package MAKEDEV is not installed >> two udev versions where installed... # rpm -q udev udev-078-4 udev-078-8 I removed udev-078-4 but still get the "don't know how to make device" messages on boot. From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Wed Feb 1 15:23:59 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:23:59 +0100 Subject: lastest udev broken? In-Reply-To: <43E0D233.1060201@stasis.org> References: <43DE54DF.9050503@feuerpokemon.de> <43DE55FA.2080608@feuerpokemon.de> <43DF8250.5080207@redhat.com> <43DF8D41.6080403@feuerpokemon.de> <43E07C7A.3040504@redhat.com> <43E0D233.1060201@stasis.org> Message-ID: <43E0D28F.80705@feuerpokemon.de> Rowan Kerr wrote: > Harald Hoyer wrote: > >>>>> dragoran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I updated my rawhide box today and got such messages on boot: >>>>>> don't know how to create tty1 >>>>>> don't know how to create tty2 >>>>> > > For what it's worth, I've been getting the same error. But don't have > MAKEDEV installed. (Installed from FC5T2 disc and have used pup to > update to Rawhide). > >>>> # rpm -qf /sbin/MAKEDEV >>> > > file /sbin/MAKEDEV is not owned by any package > >>>> # rpm -V MAKEDEV >>> > > package MAKEDEV is not installed > >>> two udev versions where installed... >> > > # rpm -q udev > udev-078-4 > udev-078-8 > > I removed udev-078-4 but still get the "don't know how to make device" > messages on boot. > yum install MAKEDEV From rowan at stasis.org Wed Feb 1 15:31:51 2006 From: rowan at stasis.org (Rowan Kerr) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:31:51 -0500 Subject: lastest udev broken? In-Reply-To: <43E0D28F.80705@feuerpokemon.de> References: <43DE54DF.9050503@feuerpokemon.de> <43DE55FA.2080608@feuerpokemon.de> <43DF8250.5080207@redhat.com> <43DF8D41.6080403@feuerpokemon.de> <43E07C7A.3040504@redhat.com> <43E0D233.1060201@stasis.org> <43E0D28F.80705@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <43E0D467.6040409@stasis.org> dragoran wrote: > yum install MAKEDEV Cheers, that was my next step before rebooting again to test and resolved it. :) From netwiz at crc.id.au Wed Feb 1 15:31:10 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 02:31:10 +1100 Subject: Latest Dovecot in 20060201 breaks imap In-Reply-To: <43E0D1A8.1010809@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <43E0D1A8.1010809@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <85877C8C-5206-4D08-9FFA-54C79F0FC15D@crc.id.au> On 02/02/2006, at 2:20 AM, Andy Burns wrote: > Steven Haigh wrote: > >> Do we know exactly what changed in this update? > > Mark McLoughlin pointed out this ... > > http://wiki.dovecot.org/UpgradingDovecot I don't believe this is the case - as I wasn't using a verion 0.99 config to start with. As that site states, I tried the following: # grep -v '^ *#' /etc/dovecot.conf|grep -v ^$|less protocols = imap imaps pop3 pop3s listen = * ssl_listen = * ssl_cert_file = /etc/pki/dovecot/certs/dovecot.pem ssl_key_file = /etc/pki/dovecot/private/dovecot.pem mbox_read_locks = fcntl mbox_write_locks = fcntl protocol imap { } protocol pop3 { } auth default { mechanisms = plain passdb pam { } userdb passwd { } user = root } It seems to be something between the versions that makes some mail clients not like the IMAP login banner and stops the client from authing. When running the Connection Doctor from within Mail, it states "Trying to log into this IMAP account failed. Please make sure the username and password are correct". During this test, the maillog just shows: Feb 2 02:30:46 zeus dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login: rip=203.56.246.84, lip=203.56.246.81 I know the username and password are correct - as all I need to change is the Use SSL option and I can then login to the mailbox in question. -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From alan at redhat.com Wed Feb 1 15:38:55 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:38:55 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: udev-071-0.FC4.2 In-Reply-To: <43E0C842.6090009@feuerpokemon.de> References: <200601311644.k0VGii110321@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> <43E0BD11.60308@feuerpokemon.de> <1138803993.7598.31.camel@gilboa-work-dev> <20060201142811.GA15157@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43E0C842.6090009@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <20060201153855.GA8246@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 03:40:02PM +0100, dragoran wrote: > >>>hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest > >>>Error } > >>>hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78221567, > >>>sector=78156288 Ok then this is a kernel or udev triggered bug. Something is reading beyond the actual end of disk. > hda: 78156289 sectors (40016 MB) w/1024KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) So its 78156289 sectors long and someone read LBA sector 78221567. Not unsuprisingly the drive got uppity about that. Thanks Alan From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Wed Feb 1 16:03:44 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:03:44 +0000 Subject: Latest Dovecot in 20060201 breaks imap In-Reply-To: <85877C8C-5206-4D08-9FFA-54C79F0FC15D@crc.id.au> References: <43E0D1A8.1010809@adslpipe.co.uk> <85877C8C-5206-4D08-9FFA-54C79F0FC15D@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <43E0DBE0.20208@adslpipe.co.uk> Steven Haigh wrote: > I don't believe this is the case - as I wasn't using a verion 0.99 > config to start with. In that case I don't know, I haven't put FC5 on my server yet, but I was just keeping an eye out for what will affect it later, do you use SASL, could that have changed? From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 16:28:07 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:28:07 -0500 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <20060201144722.7547.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20060201144722.7547.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <604aa7910602010828o39ecb03ctbc26a5c305fc360e@mail.gmail.com> On 2/1/06, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > When I type "ooffice file.odt &" it doesn't mean I want to stop all work > on anything else until openoffice gets around to talking to me. if I > type "gthumb image.jpg &" it means I want to see the image, but I don't > necessarily want to type at it. I have to say that the new focus > behavior has improved my life considerably. I hope it doesn't go away. No, it shouldn't go away. It addresses the fundamental problem that its trying to address... sadly it seems to treat the terminal as a special sort of window... which is a hack. The problem is that its impact situations it wasn't designed for. Metacity just needs to get a weebit smarter when trying to determine if/when to engage the automatic focus protection. With it strictly on or with it strictly off, this feature (or lack of the feature depending on your pov) has usability issues. Why is that? because the terminal does not fit in Gnome's usability model at all..and it will never fit. The terminal is a square peg in gnome's round hole. I think its absolutely pointless for gnome to be spending any cycles trying to shoehorn terminal interaction into its usability model as a special case. Just leave the terminal alone and go back to focusing on keeping your target users out of the terminal all together. Once a user drops into a terminal to do anything they are outside the design scope of Gnome's target and Gnome needs to recognize that and stop trying to special case the terminal. Keep the implemented features inside the scope of the design target and stop over-reaching into cli interaction as a special case. If there is a way forward as the terminal as a special case, and I'm not sure their should be, I think the way forward is trying to train metacity to understand if the terminal is in "active" use. The protection afforded by the focus stealing protection makes a lot of sense when you narrowly define the problem as making sure that actively typed input for the terminal doesn't get stolen by a newly mapped window. But once you start dealing with situations where you launch an application and the terminal recieves absolutely no keystrokes from the moment the new application launch is initiated in the terminal, the feature is outside of its original design scope and gets in the way of how some terminal users expect things to work. Again I will note that users who prefer the terminal to get crap done are NOT the target audience for the gnome desktop at large. In my perfect world, this protection feature would have some sort of built in activity metric to try to make sure that focus stealing protection would only engage if the terminal was in active use. If I lauch openoffice from a terminal and I don't send the terminal an input for several seconds.. why should focus protection engage? Why exactly should the terminal stay on top? The terminal is a very flexible interface that is outside the scope of the Gnome design target and making assumptions about "typical" usage of the terminal by people who prefer to use the terminal instead of desktop centric methods can not justified inside the scope of gnome's overall design focus. I can imagine making metacity smarter two different ways. One way is to have it keep a time measurement of time since last input to the focused window and if the time is "too short" the window keeps focus when a new window is mapped. "too short" would have to be fine tunable. The problem here is if "too short" isn't long enough, you won't be solving the original problem of protection. The newly mapped window might show up too quickly for this method to be effective at preventing focus stealing. The other way around it is to have the focused terminal window always keep focus when a new window is mapped and then let metacity start watching for input into the focused window. If there isn't input for "long enough" after the mapping of the new window then metacity gives focus to the newly mapped window (a short pre-defined time after its mapped). "too long" would have to be fined tuned. If a new window is mapped quickly this method doesn't have a problem... metacity waits a pre-defined amount of time to switch focus to that window. Example assuming metacity waits 2 seconds looking for input to the terminal: *using a terminal and you launch vncviewer from the terminal but there is no input into the terminal window from the moment vncviewer is lancuhed *the vncviewer password window is mapped in under a second and pops under the focused terminal window, hidden from view *metacity is configured to wait a 2 seconds before switching focus so the terminal window and holds focus on the terminal window for 2 seconds seeing if there is any keyboard input into the terminal. *seeing no keyboard input, metacity changes focus to the newly mapped password entry window appears This allows the terminal to keep focus if and only if its being actively used for input in the pre-defined amount of time after a new window is mapped. newly mapped windows will not get in the way of active terminal input AND just as importantly terminal users expecting newly mapped input windows won't have to go hunting for them if they aren't actively using the terminal. All they have to do is wait a short amount of time and the inactive terminal loses focus and goes down in the stack. Any keyboard press while the terminal is in focus during that short period of time will cause metacity to retain focus for the terminal.. so users who want to retain focus simply have to ping the keyboard with a keystroke. Everyone wins.. without touching the mouse. if we want the terminal to always stay on top... metacity can re-impliment the per-window "stay on top" feature which it had at one point (which many window managers have). Always keeping the terminal on top regardless of input activity into the terminal is a preferential abuse of the focus stealing protection feature to mimic "stay on top" stacking behavior just for the terminal. If "stay on top" is going to be implemented...implement it in a more general way so ALL input windows can make use of it. I think its rather short-sighted to suggest that terminals are the only things which deserve the "stay on top" protection as compared to other types of input spaces. Considering that Gnome is focused on keeping their target users away from the terminal as much as possible.. preferentially targetting terminal behavior with window manager features seems very much outside of the design priorities for Gnome to me. Stop overreaching beyond Gnome's design. If the terminal interaction is not the focus of the Gnome desktop.. stop trying to half-ass constrain how terminal interaction works but instead implement features which apply equally well to ALL windows which can take text input. -jef"the key is respecting the limitations of the design model and not trying to special case how you treat everything outside of that design goal... just let the terminal exist and accept the fact that the details of terminal interaction is not inside the Gnome design focus"spaleta From thedave at ix.netcom.com Wed Feb 1 17:48:01 2006 From: thedave at ix.netcom.com (Dave Atkins) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:48:01 -0600 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: References: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> <20060201023121.GB27561@plain.rackshack.net> Message-ID: <1138816081.3035.4.camel@bigbooty> On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 21:09 -0800, Miles Lane wrote: . . . > > Again, I think Fedora should reject this change to Metacity. > I know that Redhat maintains custom kernel patches. Can we > have a Metacity that doesn't implement this nutty window management? > > Does Fedora Core have any influence over the development decisions > of the Metacity project? Are we simply at the mercy of their whims? If it's down to voting for one or the other, I can't stand applications that steal the focus or the foreground. Try using internet explorer while working in word, and see how distracting it is. I have really become accustomed to indicating with my mouse onto which window I want in front, and into which window I'd like to type. Switching back to Windows or other wm's makes me crazy. I do wish there were separate gestures (besides mouseover). So, I could left click the title, for foreground and keyboard focus, and right click for just keyboard focus. Or something. Dave's $0.02 From cmadams at hiwaay.net Wed Feb 1 18:01:52 2006 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:01:52 -0600 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <1138816081.3035.4.camel@bigbooty> References: <604aa7910601311636gca98286ha477e5d894260a45@mail.gmail.com> <20060201023121.GB27561@plain.rackshack.net> <1138816081.3035.4.camel@bigbooty> Message-ID: <20060201180152.GD1088921@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Dave Atkins said: > I do wish there were separate gestures (besides mouseover). So, I could > left click the title, for foreground and keyboard focus, and right click > for just keyboard focus. Or something. With a configurable window manager, you could do things like that. However, GNOME developers know best, so metacity won't let you do it the way you want. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Wed Feb 1 18:24:25 2006 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:24:25 -0500 Subject: Please strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal Message-ID: Dave Atkins on 02/01/2006 12:48 PM responded with: > On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 21:09 -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > . . . > > > > Again, I think Fedora should reject this change to Metacity. > > I know that Redhat maintains custom kernel patches. Can we > > have a Metacity that doesn't implement this nutty window management? > > > > Does Fedora Core have any influence over the development decisions > > of the Metacity project? Are we simply at the mercy of their whims? > > If it's down to voting for one or the other, I can't stand applications > that steal the focus or the foreground. I agree with that statement. Applications that are already running shouldn't steal focus, However the first window an application creates should _always_ be on top. I really don't understand why you would want to start an application, and yet have its window buried underneath everything else. After all, the reason you executed it, was to use it. For the last 20 years the convention has been that when an application is executed, its window appears on the top of the stack. This shouldn't change. And if you started an app to use it later, then its your responsibility to push it down the stack wherever _you_ want. X applications by definition have a '-iconify' option to start the app in an iconic state. Unfortunately there isn't a pre-defined and standard option called '-below' to start the app, and have its window below all the others. And finally, to have special code in a terminal emulator that is trying to second guess what to do based on the timing of typing is ridiculous. > Try using internet explorer > while working in word, and see how distracting it is. I'm not to sure I understand what your compalining about. When I use 'word' its on top, and has focus, any painting IE does, or any other app for that matter, happens underneath. (BTW I always use overlapping windows, not full screen windows.) > I have really become accustomed to indicating with my mouse onto which > window I want in front, and into which window I'd like to type. Agreed, but thats once everything has started. ... snip ... Hopefully, this is 'start under' broken behavious a only a gnome thing, and KDE doesn't turn its back on 20 years of standards From jim at jbsys.com Wed Feb 1 18:38:25 2006 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:38:25 -0700 Subject: PATA support on Promise broke References: <00cb01c62482$13952e10$0a01a8c0@jbsys> <20060129201318.GF20056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <002601c6275e$afcdff80$0a01a8c0@jbsys> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Cox" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:13 PM Subject: Re: PATA support on Promise broke > On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 08:14:11PM -0700, James C. Bevier wrote: >> I have support for PATA drive on a promise controller in FC4. However, >> in >> FC5-T2 on the same machine the drive are not seem. Who broke the code? >> I >> want my PATA drives back. > > The 2.6.15 tree was broken by some wrong patches. I did point it out at > the > time but if its a PATA raid card then I suspect that is the problem. File > a bug giving the PCI vendor id/device id and the device class as reported > by lspci > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179369 Jim From seebs at plethora.net Wed Feb 1 18:58:31 2006 From: seebs at plethora.net (Peter Seebach) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:58:31 -0600 Subject: Fedora 5 {test,development} on G5? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Feb 2006 08:44:33 EST." <91f88ee20602010544o33b3f528t575de9fe52417350@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200602011858.k11IwVWI006406@guild.plethora.net> In message <91f88ee20602010544o33b3f528t575de9fe52417350 at mail.gmail.com>, Chase creek Systemhouse writes: >On 2/1/06, Peter Seebach wrote: >> Hi! I have been told that I must make a very fast PPC system run Linux, as >> soon as possible. >Speed? As in a fast build or "fast/quick" operation? I built my iMac >350MHz system in 3 hours - but once installed it performs quite well. Both. I am to build the system as soon as possible, and it needs to have tolerable performance running a CPU simulator (which I am told is multithreaded). >> With FC5 "development", I got a bootable CD (yay!), then spent a day >> downloading RPMs. At the end of this, I tried to run the install. I >> pointed the installer at the Fedora/ppc64 (I am a ppc64, yes?) directory >Actually, the G5 processor is 128-bits but ... The Linux "G5" can run >the PPC32 branch at the very least -- it probably should run PPC64 but >why choose 64 bits? The G5 will perform under PPC32 quite well for a >production system -- 64 bits (while others may argue otherwise) is >mainly for very high end database applications. At least one person has told me that I must use a PPC64 kernel to boot at all on a G5. I don't know what you mean by asserting that the G5 is 128-bits. The most relevant features (default ALU size and address space) are both 64, which I assume is the distinction made between ppc and ppc64. That said, this is a machine with under 4G of memory (had to compromise somewhere), so I can probably get away with plain-old, if it's supposed to run at all. >> on the machine I did the downloads on, and it said it was fetching >> "Fedora/base/stage2.img". Then it announced that these files did not match >> my boot media. >The Rescue CD is PPC64 -- try starting the installer off that. You can run the installer from the rescue CD? Cool. >> 1. Am I even barking up the right tree? Do quad G5's run Linux? Do they >> run Fedora in particular? Are test/development releases the way to go? >> 2. Assuming it might be productive for me to install a test release, is >> there some obvious pilot error in trying to boot from the boot.iso image >> and load the files from .../development/ppc64? >Don't know per se; why not try the PPC32 Rawhide branch >Historically the PPC64 is for the PPC9xx series of (AIX-related) >PowerPC processors (but I could be wrong about that so YMMV.) Well, yes. And the G5 is a PPC970; in this case, a pair of PPC970FX. >Personally, I would try the FC5T2 PPC32 branch before surrendering. I will try just about anything, but I was hoping that someone had actually run one of these and could confirm that it would run; downloads are running about a day per ISO set, and I was supposed to be running this on Monday at the latest, or ideally about three days before they told me about the project. -s From overholt at redhat.com Wed Feb 1 19:12:15 2006 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:12:15 -0500 Subject: Strange Eclipse on FC5 test 2 In-Reply-To: <43DFC874.5050305@gmail.com> References: <43DFC874.5050305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060201191215.GB4142@redhat.com> * Linuxer Wang [2006-01-31 15:27]: > > The first one reports an error when start, just as the figure error.png, The error in your image is one I see relatively often when switching between JVMs or versions of Eclipse. It is usually harmless for me. If it persists, can you try a new workspace and/or temporarily move ~/.eclipse out of the way? > and after starting, the java editor has no syntax highlight, as in > screeshot1.png! Did this happen on subsequent launches after the above error had been cleared? Can you please file a bug if it continues? > [...] many small boxes besides " and ;, as in screenshot2.png! See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179607 . It looks like the latest pango update has fixed this. Andrew From kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu Wed Feb 1 19:18:41 2006 From: kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu (Kevin H. Hobbs) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:18:41 -0500 Subject: PATA support on Promise broke In-Reply-To: <002601c6275e$afcdff80$0a01a8c0@jbsys> References: <00cb01c62482$13952e10$0a01a8c0@jbsys> <20060129201318.GF20056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <002601c6275e$afcdff80$0a01a8c0@jbsys> Message-ID: <1138821521.8034.1.camel@gargon.hooperlab> Me too. I think I have the exact same hardware. I've been seeing this off and on for a while. I'm only using FC4 not the devel branch. I thought the funny bit was that the installer could see discs on the parallel port of that controller but the installed kernel could not. I've sence updated to kernel-2.6.14-1.1656_FC4 which sees the disc. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From seebs at plethora.net Wed Feb 1 19:18:54 2006 From: seebs at plethora.net (Peter Seebach) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:18:54 -0600 Subject: Fedora 5 {test,development} on G5? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:58:31 CST." <200602011858.k11IwVWI006406@guild.plethora.net> Message-ID: <200602011918.k11JIsel022779@guild.plethora.net> In message <200602011858.k11IwVWI006406 at guild.plethora.net>, Peter Seebach writ es: >Well, yes. And the G5 is a PPC970; in this case, a pair of PPC970FX. Er, 970MP. Duh. I really shouldn't try to remember model numbers before I've had some caffeine. -s From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 19:34:24 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:34:24 -0500 Subject: Fedora 5 {test,development} on G5? In-Reply-To: <200602011918.k11JIsel022779@guild.plethora.net> References: <200602011858.k11IwVWI006406@guild.plethora.net> <200602011918.k11JIsel022779@guild.plethora.net> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602011134q768f43cave182bfb8cabe528d@mail.gmail.com> On 2/1/06, Peter Seebach wrote: > In message <200602011858.k11IwVWI006406 at guild.plethora.net>, Peter Seebach writ > es: > >Well, yes. And the G5 is a PPC970; in this case, a pair of PPC970FX. > > Er, 970MP. Duh. I really shouldn't try to remember model numbers before > I've had some caffeine. Drink lots, LOL - I will too =) If the PPC is a model 9xx then the best way is PPC64 -- but I don't have one so I will be of little help. Overall, see if the simulator will tolerate a PPC32 envionment -- I know that PPC32 FC5T2 will install and boot -- I've done it 25 times already. Otherwise, you are a PPC64 developer all on your own. -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From thedave at ix.netcom.com Wed Feb 1 19:47:05 2006 From: thedave at ix.netcom.com (Dave Atkins) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:47:05 -0600 Subject: Did something happen to mkinitrd? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602011134q768f43cave182bfb8cabe528d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602011858.k11IwVWI006406@guild.plethora.net> <200602011918.k11JIsel022779@guild.plethora.net> <91f88ee20602011134q768f43cave182bfb8cabe528d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1138823225.7424.14.camel@bigbooty> OK, I might be going crazy, but didn't mkinitrd use to include the modules and dependencies aliased as scsi_host_adapter in /etc/modprobe.conf? I've got a USB hard drive that I use as part of my home directories, that need to be fsck'ed and mounted at boot. I thought I fixed this by adding the following lines to /etc/modprobe.conf: alias scsi_hostadapter ehci_hcd alias scsi_hostadapter sd_mod alias scsi_hostadapter usb_storage The disk is mounted as (/etc/fstab): LABEL=storage /media/storage ext3 defaults,noatime 1 1 I fiddled with this for a while earlier in testing, and I thought that these mod's would cause new kernel installs to run mkinitrd and include the appropriate modules so that these drives would be available as soon as udev loads (like it does for the root drive). I've kind of glossed over the MAKEDEV traffic on the list because I thought it didn't pertain to me. Could this be a part of that craziness? Thanks, Dave. PS - This is the output of: mkinitrd -v -f initrd-2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp.img 2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp Creating initramfs Looking for deps of module sd_mod: scsi_mod Looking for deps of module scsi_mod Looking for deps of module ehci_hcd Looking for deps of module usb_storage Looking for deps of module ide-disk Looking for driver for device sda2 Looking for deps of module libata: scsi_mod Looking for deps of module ata_piix: libata scsi_mod Looking for deps of module ext3: jbd Looking for deps of module jbd Looking for deps of module dm-mod Looking for deps of module dm-mirror: dm-mod Looking for deps of module dm-zero: dm-mod Looking for deps of module dm-snapshot: dm-mod Using modules: /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_mod.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/sd_mod.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/libata.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/ata_piix.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/fs/jbd/jbd.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/fs/ext3/ext3.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/md/dm-mod.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/md/dm-mirror.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/md/dm-zero.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/md/dm-snapshot.ko /sbin/nash -> /tmp/initrd.Z10326/bin/nash /sbin/insmod.static -> /tmp/initrd.Z10326/bin/insmod copy from `/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_mod.ko' [elf32-i386] to `/tmp/initrd.Z10326/lib/scsi_mod.ko' [elf32-i386] copy from `/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/sd_mod.ko' [elf32-i386] to `/tmp/initrd.Z10326/lib/sd_mod.ko' [elf32-i386] copy from `/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/libata.ko' [elf32-i386] to `/tmp/initrd.Z10326/lib/libata.ko' [elf32-i386] copy from `/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/ata_piix.ko' [elf32-i386] to `/tmp/initrd.Z10326/lib/ata_piix.ko' [elf32-i386] copy from `/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/fs/jbd/jbd.ko' [elf32-i386] to `/tmp/initrd.Z10326/lib/jbd.ko' [elf32-i386] copy from `/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/fs/ext3/ext3.ko' [elf32-i386] to `/tmp/initrd.Z10326/lib/ext3.ko' [elf32-i386] copy from `/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/md/dm-mod.ko' [elf32-i386] to `/tmp/initrd.Z10326/lib/dm-mod.ko' [elf32-i386] copy from `/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/md/dm-mirror.ko' [elf32-i386] to `/tmp/initrd.Z10326/lib/dm-mirror.ko' [elf32-i386] copy from `/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/md/dm-zero.ko' [elf32-i386] to `/tmp/initrd.Z10326/lib/dm-zero.ko' [elf32-i386] copy from `/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1884_FC5smp/kernel/drivers/md/dm-snapshot.ko' [elf32-i386] to `/tmp/initrd.Z10326/lib/dm-snapshot.ko' [elf32-i386] /sbin/lvm.static -> /tmp/initrd.Z10326/bin/lvm /etc/lvm -> /tmp/initrd.Z10326/etc/lvm `/etc/lvm/lvm.conf' -> `/tmp/initrd.Z10326/etc/lvm/lvm.conf' Adding module scsi_mod Adding module sd_mod Adding module libata Adding module ata_piix Adding module jbd Adding module ext3 Adding module dm-mod Adding module dm-mirror Adding module dm-zero Adding module dm-snapshot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From seebs at plethora.net Wed Feb 1 19:47:46 2006 From: seebs at plethora.net (Peter Seebach) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:47:46 -0600 Subject: Fedora 5 {test,development} on G5? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:34:24 EST." <91f88ee20602011134q768f43cave182bfb8cabe528d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200602011947.k11JlkvJ015895@guild.plethora.net> In message <91f88ee20602011134q768f43cave182bfb8cabe528d at mail.gmail.com>, Chase creek Systemhouse writes: >Overall, see if the simulator will tolerate a PPC32 envionment -- I >know that PPC32 FC5T2 will install and boot -- I've done it 25 times >already. Will it install and boot on the quad G5? It failed for me, hanging fairly early in the boot process. (It was definitely ppc32, because there's no ISOs for ppc64 for FC5T2.) -s From dmalcolm at redhat.com Wed Feb 1 19:54:17 2006 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:54:17 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core Test 2 in HP Pavilion dv1000 In-Reply-To: <1138653800.9913.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1138437607.8024.4.camel@yo.tatxe.org> <43DD2277.5040201@bigpond.net.au> <1138608891.12573.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1138653003.2648.39.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <1138653800.9913.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1138823657.8456.53.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:43 +0100, tatxe wrote: > El lun, 30-01-2006 a las 15:30 -0500, David Malcolm escribi?: > > > > I'm sorry but I can't give you more information. I just asking if > > > someone with my same model of laptop has been able to use properly (with > > > network, mouse, USB and video) > > I have rawhide running on my dv1000. I installed it sometime around the > > FC5T1 period and had similar breakage to the symptoms you describe (no > > mouse or wired networking). It helped me a lot to add "acpi=noirq" to > > the kernel boot line; most problems went away. > > I will try next weekend and I try to give more feedback about the > "acpi=noirq". I hope this time everything goes well. > BTW I've doublechecked with rawhide, and specifically the wired ethernet doesn't work on that laptop unless you hack the kernel command line. I've now filed this as bug 179631 Hope that helps Dave From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Wed Feb 1 18:15:20 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 02:15:20 +0800 Subject: Latest Dovecot in 20060201 breaks imap In-Reply-To: <85877C8C-5206-4D08-9FFA-54C79F0FC15D@crc.id.au> References: <43E0D1A8.1010809@adslpipe.co.uk> <85877C8C-5206-4D08-9FFA-54C79F0FC15D@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <43E0FAB8.6040801@herakles.homelinux.org> Steven Haigh wrote: > On 02/02/2006, at 2:20 AM, Andy Burns wrote: > >> Steven Haigh wrote: >> >>> Do we know exactly what changed in this update? >> >> >> Mark McLoughlin pointed out this ... >> >> http://wiki.dovecot.org/UpgradingDovecot > > > I don't believe this is the case - as I wasn't using a verion 0.99 > config to start with. As that site states, I tried the following: > > # grep -v '^ *#' /etc/dovecot.conf|grep -v ^$|less > protocols = imap imaps pop3 pop3s > listen = * > ssl_listen = * > ssl_cert_file = /etc/pki/dovecot/certs/dovecot.pem > ssl_key_file = /etc/pki/dovecot/private/dovecot.pem > mbox_read_locks = fcntl > mbox_write_locks = fcntl > protocol imap { > } > > protocol pop3 { > > } > auth default { > mechanisms = plain > passdb pam { > } > userdb passwd { > } > user = root > } > > It seems to be something between the versions that makes some mail > clients not like the IMAP login banner and stops the client from authing. > > When running the Connection Doctor from within Mail, it states "Trying > to log into this IMAP account failed. Please make sure the username and > password are correct". During this test, the maillog just shows: > > Feb 2 02:30:46 zeus dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login: > rip=203.56.246.84, lip=203.56.246.81 > > I know the username and password are correct - as all I need to change > is the Use SSL option and I can then login to the mailbox in question. At times like these you need... tcpdump -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From berryja at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 20:13:31 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:13:31 -0600 Subject: FC5T2 issues with GLUT In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602010505r25934d15l427e5db60c536efb@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0601291400t97c4bcdm2fef5df0ebe791e1@mail.gmail.com> <91f88ee20602010505r25934d15l427e5db60c536efb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602011213v447be619j1a879ec6100649c6@mail.gmail.com> On 2/1/06, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > On 1/29/06, Jonathan Berry wrote: > > develop OpenGL programs. There seems to be a problem with > > Possibly not really helpful, but have you seen the examples at this site: > > http://nehe.gamedev.net/ > > ??? I don't get what you are suggesting. There seems to be an issue with GLUT, or perhaps it is in MESA. The code I used was simply an example (and one that works fine on FC4). What were you expecting me to get from nehe about Rawhide? Jonathan From tjb at unh.edu Wed Feb 1 20:14:37 2006 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:14:37 -0500 Subject: Sound Input In-Reply-To: <1138292751.3078.10.camel@zero.sr.unh.edu> References: <1138292751.3078.10.camel@zero.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: <1138824877.9875.7.camel@zero.sr.unh.edu> On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 11:25 -0500, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > In trying ekiga, I discovered that I can't get any program to receive > input from the mic. I'm using emu10k1 with a sound blaster live and I've > tried both ekiga and audacity. I can hear the mic sound on the sound > output but I can't get the sound into either program. > > I'm not sure where to file a bug. alsa-lib? > > tjb Turns out that on the Creative Labs CT4780 SBLive! Value card, in addition to having everything else correct, you need to turn up AC97 on the Capture view of alsamixer to get sound into programs. tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From umdsasha at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 20:19:12 2006 From: umdsasha at gmail.com (Alexander Sukhodolsky) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:19:12 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core Test 2 in HP Pavilion dv1000 In-Reply-To: <1138823657.8456.53.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1138437607.8024.4.camel@yo.tatxe.org> <43DD2277.5040201@bigpond.net.au> <1138608891.12573.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1138653003.2648.39.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <1138653800.9913.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1138823657.8456.53.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E117C0.4070201@gmail.com> David Malcolm wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:43 +0100, tatxe wrote: > >> El lun, 30-01-2006 a las 15:30 -0500, David Malcolm escribi?: >> >> >>>> I'm sorry but I can't give you more information. I just asking if >>>> someone with my same model of laptop has been able to use properly (with >>>> network, mouse, USB and video) >>>> >>> I have rawhide running on my dv1000. I installed it sometime around the >>> FC5T1 period and had similar breakage to the symptoms you describe (no >>> mouse or wired networking). It helped me a lot to add "acpi=noirq" to >>> the kernel boot line; most problems went away. >>> >> I will try next weekend and I try to give more feedback about the >> "acpi=noirq". I hope this time everything goes well. >> >> > BTW I've doublechecked with rawhide, and specifically the wired ethernet > doesn't work on that laptop unless you hack the kernel command line. > > I've now filed this as bug 179631 > > Hope that helps > Dave > > I have fedora core 5 test 2 running beautifully on my dv1000. Of course, this isn't without some painful configs at the beginning (thanks to all the peeps on the board who helped). As far as the resolution is concerned: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HP_Pavilion_dv1067 --while this is for gentoo, the instructions to set up your resolution works! Wireless: this was definitely a pain in the butt. But there are step by step instructions within the archives--they work absolutely perfectly (so surprisingly easy for linux that I have a tear in my eye for how far linux has gone since 10 years ago). But don't expect the light to turn on. Mouse: dunno. My worked as soon as I installed it. You sure the touchpad was enabled when you installed? I have no other clue of why it wouldn't work. USB: works fine from install wired network: works fine from install. sd/mmc card reader: nothing yet made for this. I found a site with ppl working on it, but I don't expect to get this to work anytime soon--and frankly don't much care. Just use a fat partition (if trying to have common media for a possible windoze install on the laptop) or use a USB memory card when you get your USB up. Anyway, I'm just another guy who has the hp dv1000 and I wanted to verify that YES--fc5t2 works fine on the computer. Try a reinstall or something and post back what happened. From tjb at unh.edu Wed Feb 1 20:34:08 2006 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:34:08 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <1138826048.21981.3.camel@zero.sr.unh.edu> On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 21:23 +0000, Andy Burns wrote: > Noticed today that yum (or yumex, I barely use pirut) has been leaving > multiple version of software installed, just to be clear this isn't a > i386 and an x86_64 version of the same package, it is two numerically > different versions. > > This has been affected about 50 packages in total, some lib*, lots of > gnome*, some xorg and a few *.noarch, so no particular area. > > I have had a few yum updates hang (due to the gcj-dbtool hanging?) so > this might explain it, I've manually tided up the dupes now. > > Since I can't say what brought this on and can't repoduce it at the > moment, I'm not planning to bugzilla it, unless anyone else sees it too, > or thinks it is significant enough to warrant a bugzilla? > > The included script helps cleaning up. It removes the older duplicate and rpm verifies the current one. No warranty expressed or implied. It works for me but I could be living in ignorant bliss... tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: removeDuplicateRPMSNoAsky Type: application/x-csh Size: 468 bytes Desc: not available URL: From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Wed Feb 1 20:53:38 2006 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:53:38 -0500 Subject: thunderbird icon In-Reply-To: <43E0C917.4060208@redhat.com> References: <43E08D3E.7030706@adslpipe.co.uk> <6c3f5e6c0602010338x4f227df4lceb32cad0f977014@mail.gmail.com> <43E0AF31.8070307@gmail.com> <43E0C917.4060208@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E11FD2.6060808@cox.net> Pete Graner wrote: > Doug Fordham wrote: >> gb spam wrote: >>> On 2/1/06, Andy Burns wrote: >>> >>>> OK, >>>> >>>> I've had a bug filed on this for quite a while now, with no response, >>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177823 >>>> >>>> Can I just check from any FC5 thunderbird users (not everyone else can >>>> be using evolution, right?) do you get a proper icon in the task list, >>>> the alt-tab switcher and the window title bar, or just a grey square? >>>> >>>> This sounds like a fairly trivial issue, but it makes it hard to >>>> quickly >>>> spot a running instance when you want to task switch. The icon is OK >>>> from the Applications/Internet menu BTW. >>>> >>> >>> I get the generic X app icon on KDE (FC5T2) >>> >>> >> confirm the same -- generic X-App in tasklist under Gnome with >> FC5-test2 install with daily updates... > > Ditto... on PPC > > Pete >> > > Same here....been that way for awhile....I seem to remember some discussion about it way back when, however, currently reported in bz 177823 -- Regards, Old Fart (my reply-to address is "munged" to defeat spambots) From kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu Wed Feb 1 20:58:02 2006 From: kevin.hobbs.1 at ohiou.edu (Kevin H. Hobbs) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:58:02 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <1138826048.21981.3.camel@zero.sr.unh.edu> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <1138826048.21981.3.camel@zero.sr.unh.edu> Message-ID: <1138827482.8034.13.camel@gargon.hooperlab> On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 15:34 -0500, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > > The included script helps cleaning up. It removes the older duplicate > and rpm verifies the current one. No warranty expressed or implied. It > works for me but I could be living in ignorant bliss... > > tjb That will give x86_64 users a bit of trouble. We are supposed to have packages of the same name but different architectures. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Wed Feb 1 21:37:10 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:37:10 +0000 Subject: thunderbird icon In-Reply-To: <43E11FD2.6060808@cox.net> References: <43E08D3E.7030706@adslpipe.co.uk> <6c3f5e6c0602010338x4f227df4lceb32cad0f977014@mail.gmail.com> <43E0AF31.8070307@gmail.com><43E0C917.4060208@redhat.com> <43E11FD2.6060808@cox.net> Message-ID: <43E12A06.9090904@adslpipe.co.uk> Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > Pete Graner wrote: >> Doug Fordham wrote: >>> gb spam wrote: >>>> On 2/1/06, Andy Burns wrote: >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177823 ... > currently reported in bz 177823 Err yes, I know, we've gone full circle :-) From tatxe at tatxe.org Wed Feb 1 21:55:26 2006 From: tatxe at tatxe.org (tatxe) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:55:26 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core Test 2 in HP Pavilion dv1000 In-Reply-To: <43E117C0.4070201@gmail.com> References: <1138437607.8024.4.camel@yo.tatxe.org> <43DD2277.5040201@bigpond.net.au> <1138608891.12573.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1138653003.2648.39.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <1138653800.9913.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1138823657.8456.53.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <43E117C0.4070201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1138830926.3285.9.camel@localhost> El mi?, 01--2006 a las 15:19 -0500, Alexander Sukhodolsky escribi?: > Mouse: dunno. My worked as soon as I installed it. You sure the > touchpad was enabled when you installed? I have no other clue of why it > wouldn't work. Really, I don't remember. But I reinstall Fedora again with the acpi=noirq option and works. > sd/mmc card reader: nothing yet made for this. I found a site with ppl > working on it, but I don't expect to get this to work anytime soon--and > frankly don't much care. Just use a fat partition (if trying to have > common media for a possible windoze install on the laptop) or use a USB > memory card when you get your USB up. I sow this too, I'm not have a really daily base use of the car reader, but if have one I think will be fine used to get my pictures from my camera. > Anyway, I'm just another guy who has the hp dv1000 and I wanted to > verify that YES--fc5t2 works fine on the computer. Try a reinstall or > something and post back what happened. 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Just too bad I can't find an old yum RPM lying around just now... -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513 From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Wed Feb 1 23:32:47 2006 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:32:47 -0500 Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: <200602012330.k11NUMuk015823@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> References: <200602012330.k11NUMuk015823@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> Message-ID: <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 20:30 -0300, Horst von Brand wrote: > i686, Fedora rawhide up to date (except for neon, rpm*, subversion; blocked > by OOo). > > Just updated, now I have yum-2.5.1-3. Running yum just to make sure > everything is now up-to-date gets to more than a minute (!) of CPU time > while checking the local repo data, and OOMs the machine, filling up swap > and making it nearly unresponsive. Only way out is kill -KILL, AFAICS. > > Just too bad I can't find an old yum RPM lying around just now... Known bug, and it's not caused by yum. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From makononov at yahoo.com Wed Feb 1 23:58:58 2006 From: makononov at yahoo.com (Misha A. Kononov) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:58:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: ahci issues Message-ID: <20060201235858.62817.qmail@web51503.mail.yahoo.com> I'm trying to install FC5T2 on a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop. It's got an Intel 82801FBM Utlra ATA controller and a 80GB Toshiba Proteus drive. The install dies after intializing AHCI with the following messages: <7>libata version 1.20 loaded. <7>ahci 0000:00:1f.2: version 1.2 <6>ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[B] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5 <6>ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1f.2 disabled <4>ahci: probe of 0000:00:1f.2 failed with error -12 <4>hdc: lost interrupt The "lost interrupt" message repeats a few times, though I'm assuming this is just the kernel timing out. Any ideas? Thanks, Misha --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin.conover at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 00:05:12 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 18:05:12 -0600 Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: <200602012330.k11NUMuk015823@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> References: <200602012330.k11NUMuk015823@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> Message-ID: On 2/1/06, Horst von Brand wrote: > > i686, Fedora rawhide up to date (except for neon, rpm*, subversion; > blocked > by OOo). > > Just updated, now I have yum-2.5.1-3. Running yum just to make sure > everything is now up-to-date gets to more than a minute (!) of CPU time > while checking the local repo data, and OOMs the machine, filling up swap > and making it nearly unresponsive. Only way out is kill -KILL, AFAICS. > > Just too bad I can't find an old yum RPM lying around just now... > -- > Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org > Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 > Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 > Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513 > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Drop back to an older sqlite3 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179547 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wacker at octothorp.org Thu Feb 2 00:17:26 2006 From: wacker at octothorp.org (William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:17:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> References: <200602012330.k11NUMuk015823@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 20:30 -0300, Horst von Brand wrote: >> i686, Fedora rawhide up to date (except for neon, rpm*, subversion; blocked >> by OOo). >> >> Just updated, now I have yum-2.5.1-3. Running yum just to make sure >> everything is now up-to-date gets to more than a minute (!) of CPU time >> while checking the local repo data, and OOMs the machine, filling up swap >> and making it nearly unresponsive. Only way out is kill -KILL, AFAICS. >> >> Just too bad I can't find an old yum RPM lying around just now... > > Known bug, and it's not caused by yum. > > The problem seems to be with sqlite. But if your update run was successful, you might have stuff dependent on it. I guess, when they release a new one, we can manually update it. Then we should be OK. HTH. -- Bill in Denver From miles.lane at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 00:32:34 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 16:32:34 -0800 Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: References: <200602012330.k11NUMuk015823@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: Download http://people.redhat.com/caillon/RPMS/rawhide/sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm and run: rpm -Uvh --force /home/miles/sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm Worked for me. Miles On 2/1/06, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 wrote: > On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 20:30 -0300, Horst von Brand wrote: > >> i686, Fedora rawhide up to date (except for neon, rpm*, subversion; blocked > >> by OOo). > >> > >> Just updated, now I have yum-2.5.1-3. Running yum just to make sure > >> everything is now up-to-date gets to more than a minute (!) of CPU time > >> while checking the local repo data, and OOMs the machine, filling up swap > >> and making it nearly unresponsive. Only way out is kill -KILL, AFAICS. > >> > >> Just too bad I can't find an old yum RPM lying around just now... > > > > Known bug, and it's not caused by yum. > > > > > The problem seems to be with sqlite. But if your update run was > successful, you might have stuff dependent on it. I guess, when they > release a new one, we can manually update it. Then we should be OK. > > HTH. > > -- > Bill in Denver > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From selinux at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 00:40:35 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 16:40:35 -0800 Subject: ahci issues In-Reply-To: <20060201235858.62817.qmail@web51503.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060201235858.62817.qmail@web51503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602011640y6e1d5062w8f9033fd05304c49@mail.gmail.com> I had similar problems with an install on a Thinkpad X41 with the same chip. I worked around this by booting the install with 'noprobe', and manually selecting the sata_piix driver along with the appropriate network driver (tg3 in my case). This 'worked'. I only had to fix the video controller settings (from vesa->i810) after the system was installed and running. Hope this helps..... tom From vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl Thu Feb 2 01:13:41 2006 From: vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl (Horst von Brand) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:13:41 -0300 Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Feb 2006 20:30:22 -0300." <200602012330.k11NUMuk015823@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> Message-ID: <200602020113.k121DfPj003187@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> Horst von Brand wrote: > i686, Fedora rawhide up to date (except for neon, rpm*, subversion; blocked > by OOo). > > Just updated, now I have yum-2.5.1-3. Running yum just to make sure > everything is now up-to-date gets to more than a minute (!) of CPU time > while checking the local repo data, and OOMs the machine, filling up swap > and making it nearly unresponsive. Only way out is kill -KILL, AFAICS. Tried again after "yum clean metadata", same result -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513 From vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl Thu Feb 2 01:14:30 2006 From: vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl (Horst von Brand) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:14:30 -0300 Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:32:47 CDT." <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <200602020114.k121EU7J003203@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 20:30 -0300, Horst von Brand wrote: > > i686, Fedora rawhide up to date (except for neon, rpm*, subversion; blocked > > by OOo). > > > > Just updated, now I have yum-2.5.1-3. Running yum just to make sure > > everything is now up-to-date gets to more than a minute (!) of CPU time > > while checking the local repo data, and OOMs the machine, filling up swap > > and making it nearly unresponsive. Only way out is kill -KILL, AFAICS. > > > > Just too bad I can't find an old yum RPM lying around just now... > > Known bug, and it's not caused by yum. Who is to blame then? -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513 From zuirdj at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 01:28:34 2006 From: zuirdj at gmail.com (Zuir DJ) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:28:34 -0300 Subject: Gnome broken In-Reply-To: <1138798402.1711.8.camel@niobe.gwch.net> References: <1138798402.1711.8.camel@niobe.gwch.net> Message-ID: On 2/1/06, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > After todays update, somehow gnome-session seems broken, even not the > 1st icon (think its metacity) is shown and then i get back to > login-screen. How can i debug? +1 . I exclude sqlite, neon and dependencies from the update. In /var/log/messages appears 'VFS: file-max limit 47677 reached'. -- Zuirdj From makononov at yahoo.com Thu Feb 2 02:00:16 2006 From: makononov at yahoo.com (Misha A. Kononov) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 18:00:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: ahci issues In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602011640y6e1d5062w8f9033fd05304c49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060202020016.8374.qmail@web51508.mail.yahoo.com> Tom London wrote: I had similar problems with an install on a Thinkpad X41 with the same chip. I worked around this by booting the install with 'noprobe', and manually selecting the sata_piix driver along with the appropriate network driver (tg3 in my case). This 'worked'. I only had to fix the video controller settings (from vesa->i810) after the system was installed and running. Hope this helps..... tom This did it! Got everything installed, and just a few bugs to work out in X. Thanks for your help. --Misha --------------------------------- Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This should be x86_64 compatible although I don't have any broken x86_64 systems to test it on! tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: removeDuplicateRPMSNoAsky Type: application/x-csh Size: 517 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ddmbox2000 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 2 02:57:00 2006 From: ddmbox2000 at yahoo.co.uk (bill gates III jr) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 02:57:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: HOSED ... Message-ID: <20060202025705.76338.qmail@web26603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Howdy Rawhiders , After today's updates 01/02 you guessed it this system is hosed ... just managed to recover from the sqlite3 fiasco breaking rpm on the way :-) fixed them both by downgrading and some source code shinanigans so ok lets get some more updates gcc, libstdc, yum, rpm etc all went in fine no errors. Lets reboot, startup ok cept the usual audit avc denied noise (I need help ere) now the situation is booting gnome or kde freezes after login and both just sit there doing nothing similar to this msg -no logs: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00061.html the saga continues ... Just found out I can boot to gui as root only (kde+gnome) so I did and grabbed a new kernel 1892_FC5 but that also freezes before login :-) wollop ! bedtime. system: AthlonXP 2600+ nforce2 chipset 1GB ram sw-raid0 Promise 376 bogus ABit ATI 9550 128mb NO repeat NO 3D will BZ this and that in the am. zzzZZZZ ----------------------------------------------------------- names ave been changed to protect the innocent ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Thu Feb 2 03:04:27 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:04:27 -0500 Subject: Boot splashscreen missing function key list (2006-02-01) Message-ID: <20060202030427.GA14091@wolves.durham.nc.us> I've actually noticed this for a few weeks now, but the "function keys listed below" mentioned on the default screen are not there. Jut a nit that someone forgot to put them in the image. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 2 03:10:23 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:10:23 -0500 Subject: Boot splashscreen missing function key list (2006-02-01) In-Reply-To: <20060202030427.GA14091@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20060202030427.GA14091@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <1138849823.13084.0.camel@bree.local.net> On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 22:04 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > I've actually noticed this for a few weeks now, but the "function keys > listed below" mentioned on the default screen are not there. > > Jut a nit that someone forgot to put them in the image. They're actually there, just not very visible. It's filed and on my list of things to look into (hopefully tomorrow-ish) Jeremy From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Thu Feb 2 03:10:48 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:10:48 -0500 Subject: It takes too long to bring up "timezone" step Message-ID: <20060202031048.GA14166@wolves.durham.nc.us> After configuring the default network device, and moving to the timezone step it take way too long to bring up the timezone select screen. That is more than 1 minute (65 seconds on my work1 testbed machine.) Another nit. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Thu Feb 2 03:18:19 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:18:19 -0500 Subject: System Freeze at "Retrieving installation information" Message-ID: <20060202031819.GA14225@wolves.durham.nc.us> My testbed machine frroze up during the retrieving instalaltion information screen. Hard freeze, don't know repeatability yet. NFS install, after reading the info from the server, while loading up the internal database. Ahh Haa! Is this another sqlite problem? --Wolfe (nipping at fleas tonight!) -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Thu Feb 2 03:22:15 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:22:15 -0500 Subject: RHGB logo messed up Message-ID: <20060202032215.GA14310@wolves.durham.nc.us> While booting rawhide of 2006-01-31, the RHGB fedora logo appears messed up, weirdly wrapped in the bounding box and ugly as sin. --Wolfe (more darn fleas) -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From justin.conover at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 03:22:40 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:22:40 -0600 Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: References: <200602012330.k11NUMuk015823@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: On 2/1/06, Miles Lane wrote: > > Download > http://people.redhat.com/caillon/RPMS/rawhide/sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm > and run: > rpm -Uvh --force /home/miles/sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm > Worked for me. > > Miles > Don't force, use rpm -Uvh --oldpackage * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 2 03:25:52 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:25:52 -0500 Subject: System Freeze at "Retrieving installation information" In-Reply-To: <20060202031819.GA14225@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20060202031819.GA14225@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <1138850752.13084.2.camel@bree.local.net> On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 22:18 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > My testbed machine frroze up during the retrieving instalaltion > information screen. Hard freeze, don't know repeatability yet. > NFS install, after reading the info from the server, while loading up > the internal database. > > Ahh Haa! Is this another sqlite problem? Yeah, since anaconda is using yum on the backend (with sqlite), we'll hit the same bug there Jeremy From netwiz at crc.id.au Thu Feb 2 03:34:21 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:34:21 +1100 (EST) Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: <200602020114.k121EU7J003203@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> References: Your message of "Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:32:47 CDT." <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> <200602020114.k121EU7J003203@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> Message-ID: <34127.192.94.41.42.1138851261.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: >> On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 20:30 -0300, Horst von Brand wrote: >> > i686, Fedora rawhide up to date (except for neon, rpm*, subversion; >> blocked >> > by OOo). >> > >> > Just updated, now I have yum-2.5.1-3. Running yum just to make sure >> > everything is now up-to-date gets to more than a minute (!) of CPU >> time >> > while checking the local repo data, and OOMs the machine, filling up >> swap >> > and making it nearly unresponsive. Only way out is kill -KILL, >> AFAICS. >> > >> > Just too bad I can't find an old yum RPM lying around just now... >> >> Known bug, and it's not caused by yum. > > Who is to blame then? I just get: # yum check-update Setting up repositories extras-dev: ################################################## 2/2 Reading repository metadata in from local files Killed Even though I didn't kill the process. This is after about 3 minutes of CPU thrashing. I'm guessing there's an internal timer that is triggering a kill... From netwiz at crc.id.au Thu Feb 2 04:24:03 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:24:03 +1100 (EST) Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: <34127.192.94.41.42.1138851261.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: Your message of "Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:32:47 CDT." <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> <200602020114.k121EU7J003203@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <34127.192.94.41.42.1138851261.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <51495.192.94.41.42.1138854243.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Hmmm - so as details are not really forthcoming with this issue, I've done some digging. A previous poster was right, I rolled back to FC4's yum package - and the same issue still occurs. This leads me to believe that it's not an issue with yum - but an underlying problem. I haven't been able to isolate this issue yet - however it brings my system to it's knees. Pretty much all processes stop and I have to kill my system while it happens. I'm doing this via SSH, and the session hangs, and although the system will respond to pings, every other process seems to hang in the meantime. Anyone got any hints on this? -- Steven Haigh From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Thu Feb 2 04:24:01 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Evo Test - Jim C.) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:24:01 -0500 Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: <34127.192.94.41.42.1138851261.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: "Your message of Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:32:47 CDT." <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> <200602020114.k121EU7J003203@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <34127.192.94.41.42.1138851261.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <1138854241.2542.9.camel@cornette-lt> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 14:34 +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > I just get: > # yum check-update > Setting up repositories > extras-dev: ################################################## 2/2 > Reading repository metadata in from local files > Killed > > Even though I didn't kill the process. This is after about 3 minutes of > CPU thrashing. I'm guessing there's an internal timer that is triggering a > kill... Originally,I thought it was pirut. It was not pirut which uses yum. it was not yum, which uses sqlite. It was sqlite. Bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179547 Thanks to those that figured which package was stealing all memory. At least I experienced what an OOM error does to the system. In the bug report is a link to the older version. The version is older, so the rpm --oldpackage is needed. Jim From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 2 04:27:27 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 20:27:27 -0800 Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: <51495.192.94.41.42.1138854243.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: Your message of "Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:32:47 CDT." <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> <200602020114.k121EU7J003203@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <34127.192.94.41.42.1138851261.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <51495.192.94.41.42.1138854243.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <1138854448.5469.3.camel@ender> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 15:24 +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > Hmmm - so as details are not really forthcoming with this issue, I've done > some digging. A previous poster was right, I rolled back to FC4's yum > package - and the same issue still occurs. > > This leads me to believe that it's not an issue with yum - but an > underlying problem. I haven't been able to isolate this issue yet - > however it brings my system to it's knees. Pretty much all processes stop > and I have to kill my system while it happens. I'm doing this via SSH, and > the session hangs, and although the system will respond to pings, every > other process seems to hang in the meantime. > > Anyone got any hints on this? It has been posted a few times that this is an sqlite3 issue, and replacement packages are forthcoming. One is already on a people.redhat.com site, the one that will be in tomorrow's rawhide. http://people.redhat.com/caillon/RPMS/rawhide/sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's going to be in NLD 10 in a few months. > > Benji > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list You can pull from cvs, for now if you want to. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fXgl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dfordham at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 04:45:47 2006 From: dfordham at gmail.com (Doug Fordham) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:45:47 -0500 Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: <1138854241.2542.9.camel@cornette-lt> References: "Your message of Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:32:47 CDT." <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> <200602020114.k121EU7J003203@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <34127.192.94.41.42.1138851261.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <1138854241.2542.9.camel@cornette-lt> Message-ID: <43E18E7B.60306@gmail.com> Evo Test - Jim C. wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 14:34 +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > > >> I just get: >> # yum check-update >> Setting up repositories >> extras-dev: ################################################## 2/2 >> Reading repository metadata in from local files >> Killed >> >> Even though I didn't kill the process. This is after about 3 minutes of >> CPU thrashing. I'm guessing there's an internal timer that is triggering a >> kill... >> > > Originally,I thought it was pirut. It was not pirut which uses yum. it > was not yum, which uses sqlite. It was sqlite. > > Bug report: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179547 > > Thanks to those that figured which package was stealing all memory. At > least I experienced what an OOM error does to the system. In the bug > report is a link to the older version. The version is older, so the rpm > --oldpackage is needed. > > Jim > > Kernel: 2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 sqlite-3.3.3-1 Just executed a successful update utilizing the following: yum --exclude=totem --exclude=openoffice --exclude=neon --exclude=cadaver --exclude=rpm --exclude=rpm-build --exclude=rpm-devel --exclude=rpm-build --exclude=neon-devel --exclude=rpm-python --exclude=rpm-libs update From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Thu Feb 2 04:49:07 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:49:07 -0500 Subject: thunderbird icon In-Reply-To: <43E08D3E.7030706@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <43E08D3E.7030706@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <43E18F43.3010606@insight.rr.com> Andy Burns wrote: > OK, > > I've had a bug filed on this for quite a while now, with no response, > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177823 > > Can I just check from any FC5 thunderbird users (not everyone else can > be using evolution, right?) I usually use mozilla but did try out evolution today to see if it worked. do you get a proper icon in the task list, > the alt-tab switcher and the window title bar, or just a grey square? The square is in both the alt-tab and in the window list. > > This sounds like a fairly trivial issue, but it makes it hard to quickly > spot a running instance when you want to task switch. The icon is OK > from the Applications/Internet menu BTW. > > > > I see the box that yu are referrng to now. I had a hard time figuring out where the ICON you were referring to was. You are referring to the windows list. Adding to your bug report the confirmation. Jim -- Where do you want Bill Gates to go today? -- From a Slashdot.org post From netwiz at crc.id.au Thu Feb 2 05:03:40 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:03:40 +1100 (EST) Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: <1138854448.5469.3.camel@ender> References: Your message of "Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:32:47 CDT." <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> <200602020114.k121EU7J003203@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <34127.192.94.41.42.1138851261.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <51495.192.94.41.42.1138854243.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <1138854448.5469.3.camel@ender> Message-ID: <9448.192.94.41.42.1138856620.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> >> Anyone got any hints on this? > > It has been posted a few times that this is an sqlite3 issue, and > replacement packages are forthcoming. One is already on a > people.redhat.com site, the one that will be in tomorrow's rawhide. > > > http://people.redhat.com/caillon/RPMS/rawhide/sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm Ah ha! I can confirm that this fixed the issue on 3x systems that were having major issues before. Thanks for the update. From miles.lane at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 06:03:52 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:03:52 -0800 Subject: RAWHIDE: gam_server consuming 43% of CPU cycles continuously. Message-ID: For about a month, I have been running rawhide without seeing gam_server chew up my available CPU power. I have observed this problem on Ubuntu before. Today, gam_server is eating about 45% of my processor time, increasing my power cunsumption on my otherwise, well-behaving Pentium M laptop. Any way to fix this? Miles From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 2 06:07:02 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:37:02 +0530 Subject: RAWHIDE: gam_server consuming 43% of CPU cycles continuously. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43E1A186.6050906@fedoraproject.org> Miles Lane wrote: >For about a month, I have been running rawhide without seeing >gam_server chew up my available CPU power. I have observed >this problem on Ubuntu before. Today, gam_server is eating >about 45% of my processor time, increasing my power cunsumption >on my otherwise, well-behaving Pentium M laptop. > >Any way to fix this? > > Miles > > Filing a bug report would be a good start. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 2 06:08:01 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:38:01 +0530 Subject: RHGB logo messed up In-Reply-To: <20060202032215.GA14310@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20060202032215.GA14310@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <43E1A1C1.2070509@fedoraproject.org> G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: >While booting rawhide of 2006-01-31, the RHGB fedora logo appears messed >up, weirdly wrapped in the bounding box and ugly as sin. > >--Wolfe (more darn fleas) > > > Provide a bug report with a screenshot to http://bugzilla.redhat.com -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From e1geo at yahoo.com Thu Feb 2 06:41:41 2006 From: e1geo at yahoo.com (George Hill) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:41:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: mgs in daemon/status base messages? Message-ID: <20060202064142.66628.qmail@web53601.mail.yahoo.com> I am running a current FC5t2. When I use service to start and check the status of daemons I get messages that I am not familiar with. Would someone tell me what the messages that start with in the following sample mean? I get them working with several daemons, not just smb. Thanks. # /sbin/service smb start Starting SMB services: mgs in daemon base = [ OK ] Starting NMB services: mgs in daemon base = [ OK ] # /sbin/service smb status mgs in status base = smbd smbd (pid 3755 3754) is running... mgs in status base = nmbd nmbd (pid 3758) is running... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From miles.lane at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 06:50:40 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:50:40 -0800 Subject: RAWHIDE: gam_server consuming 43% of CPU cycles continuously. In-Reply-To: <43E1A186.6050906@fedoraproject.org> References: <43E1A186.6050906@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 2/1/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Miles Lane wrote: > > >For about a month, I have been running rawhide without seeing > >gam_server chew up my available CPU power. I have observed > >this problem on Ubuntu before. Today, gam_server is eating > >about 45% of my processor time, increasing my power cunsumption > >on my otherwise, well-behaving Pentium M laptop. > > > >Any way to fix this? > > > > Miles > > > > > Filing a bug report would be a good start. After scrabbling around, I found this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/process_bug.cgi I added my information. Thanks. Miles From grgoffe at yahoo.com Thu Feb 2 07:52:04 2006 From: grgoffe at yahoo.com (George R Goffe) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 23:52:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! Message-ID: <20060202075204.26423.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> Howdy, My two cents. I'm having the same yum problem that everyone is/was having. I have run these commands: rpm -e sqlite-devel-3.3.3-1.i386 \ rpm-devel-4.4.2-13.i386 net-snmp-devel-5.3-3.i386 and then this one: rpm -Uvh --oldpackage sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm All appears to be cool now except that libneon is causing(?) a missing dependency: Error: Missing Dependency: libneon.so.24 is needed by package kdesvn Error: Missing Dependency: libneon.so.24 is needed by package openoffice.org-core Not provided by any rpm? The question about what's killing the yum process might be answered by the presence of a "new" (new to the later 2.4 kernels anyway) kernel option (I forget the exact terminology) "oom killer?". I think it's either this "feature" (that made it into the 2.6 kernels as a permanent fixture) or the system just running out of memory and killing the process as part of a recovery. I let my system run for a while (completely disabled apparently) when the "killed" message appeared. On subsequent attempts to use yum I watched xosview and it showed a steady increas in paging and swap and memory usage which you might expect given the previous reports. I have a "strace -xvf yum update" output file that shows what's happening. Of course you have to have strace installed, apparently it does NOT come with a "default" system install, whatever that is. Yum(?) or someone is looping on a brk system call. I haven't analyzed the trace yet. Regards, George... p.s., This group is GREAT! ===== _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ ----- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ ----- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ ----- "It's not what you know that hurts you, It's what you know that ain't so." Will Rogers __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jiri.cerny at epfl.ch Thu Feb 2 07:56:42 2006 From: jiri.cerny at epfl.ch (Jiri Cerny) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:56:42 +0100 Subject: selinux X libxklavier recompilation Message-ID: <20060202075642.GA15877@imapc43.epfl.ch> As the last version of libxklavier in rawhide has bug that makes the layout-options tab in gnome-keyboard-preferences completely useless, I decided to recompile libxklavier. (The bug is already in bugzila and is fixed in upstream CVS) I downloaded the last libxklavier SRPM, added a one-line patch from upstream CVS to it, did rpmbuild -bb libxklavier.spec and installed the new rpm package. Now, when starting gnome-keyboard-preferencies I get errors like gnome-keyboard-properties: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libxklavier.so.10: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied and in /var/log/audit/audit.log I have type=AVC msg=audit(1138888218.846:68): avc: denied { execmod } for pid=9342 comm="gnome-keyboard-" name="libxklavier.so.10.0.0" dev=sda8 ino=585293 scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:lib_t:s0 tclass=file type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1138888218.846:68): arch=40000003 syscall=125 success=no exit=-13 a0=160000 a1=15000 a2=5 a3=bf8e16a0 items=0 pid=9342 auid=4294967295 uid=501 gid=501 euid=501 suid=501 fsuid=501 egid=501 sgid=501 fsgid=501 comm="gnome-keyboard-" exe="/usr/bin/gnome-keyboard-properties" type=AVC_PATH msg=audit(1138888218.846:68): path="/usr/lib/libxklavier.so.10.0.0" Problem disappears after setenforce 0. The system is fc5t2 with uptodate rawhide updates. Can somebody explain me what is going wrong. Such trivial recompilations of SRPMS usually worked without problem for me. Jiri -- Ji?? ?ern? ?cole Polytechnique F?derale de Lausanne (EPFL) Chair of Stochastic modeling (CMOS) INR 031 - Station 14 CH-1015 Lausanne phone: ++41-21-693 7534 fax: ++41-21-693 7545 e-mail: jiri.cerny at epfl.ch From grgoffe at yahoo.com Thu Feb 2 08:04:39 2006 From: grgoffe at yahoo.com (George R Goffe) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 00:04:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: subversion-1.3.0 build fails Message-ID: <20060202080439.12729.qmail@web53102.mail.yahoo.com> Howdy, I'm trying to build subversion-1.3.0 and the cvs versions and am having trouble with the build. From the web I'm seeing other software having the same problem on different platforms too. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might resolve this problem? Regards, George... /bin/bash /tools/subversion/subversion-1.3.0/apr/libtool --silent --mode=compile gcc -g -O2 -Wall -pthread -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLINUX=2 -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -I../../include -I../../include/arch -I../../include/arch/unix -c proc_mutex.c && touch proc_mutex.lo proc_mutex.c: In function 'proc_mutex_proc_pthread_create': proc_mutex.c:341: warning: implicit declaration of function 'pthread_mutexattr_setprotocol' proc_mutex.c:341: error: 'PTHREAD_PRIO_INHERIT' undeclared (first use in this function) proc_mutex.c:341: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once proc_mutex.c:341: error: for each function it appears in.) make[3]: *** [proc_mutex.lo] Error 1 ===== _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ ----- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ ----- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ ----- "It's not what you know that hurts you, It's what you know that ain't so." Will Rogers __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From gajownik at fedora.pl Thu Feb 2 09:21:52 2006 From: gajownik at fedora.pl (Dawid Gajownik) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:21:52 +0100 Subject: selinux X libxklavier recompilation In-Reply-To: <20060202075642.GA15877@imapc43.epfl.ch> References: <20060202075642.GA15877@imapc43.epfl.ch> Message-ID: <43E1CF30.6010503@fedora.pl> Dnia 02/02/2006 08:58 AM, U?ytkownik Jiri Cerny napisa?: > type=AVC msg=audit(1138888218.846:68): avc: denied { execmod } for > pid=9342 comm="gnome-keyboard-" name="libxklavier.so.10.0.0" Maybe this will shed some light on this problem ? http://people.redhat.com/drepper/selinux-mem.html > scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:lib_t:s0 > tclass=file chcon -t texrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/libxklavier.so.10.0.0 resolves the problem? If yes, that means that this patch may be broken (causes text relocations). If you want to know more about TEXTRELs please see this documents: http://people.redhat.com/drepper/dsohowto.pdf http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/33992 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/34037 Hope that helps. -- ^_* From netwiz at crc.id.au Thu Feb 2 10:36:30 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:36:30 +1100 Subject: Latest Dovecot in 20060201 breaks imap In-Reply-To: <43E0FAB8.6040801@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <43E0D1A8.1010809@adslpipe.co.uk> <85877C8C-5206-4D08-9FFA-54C79F0FC15D@crc.id.au> <43E0FAB8.6040801@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <8C4B1D3C-29DB-4520-A652-34C0A5E9D22C@crc.id.au> On 02/02/2006, at 5:15 AM, John Summerfied wrote: > > At times like these you need... > > tcpdump After going through all the tethereal outputs, it looks as though the default value for disable_plaintext_auth in the new version has changed from no to yes. After changing this option in the config file, plain text auth started to work as expected again. -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From netwiz at crc.id.au Thu Feb 2 10:58:22 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:58:22 +1100 Subject: Kernel 2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 crashes on boot on Dell Inspiron 8600 Message-ID: When booting off kernel-2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 the system sets the clock, tries to start udev, then dies. The crash output states: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address f8000022 printing eip: *pde = 00000000 Oops: 0000 [#1] last sysfs file: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.1/ide0/0.0/modalias -- snipped a heap of modules to do with sound, network and wifi -- CPU: 0 EIP: 0060:[] Not tainted VLI EFLAGS: 00010282 (2.6.15-1.1884_FC5) EIP is at 0xf8000022 eax: 00000000 ebx: 00000020 ecx: 0000000 edx: f88875fa esi: 0000142d edi: 12000021 ebp: 00001432 esp: f74ebd30 ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 Process modprobe (pid: 688, threadinfo=f75b1000 task=f750a000) Stack: <0>00001437 12000023 0000143c 00000024 00001441 F7000025 00001446 00000026 0000144b 00000027 00001450 00000028 00001455 f7000029 0000145a f700002a 0000145f ff00002b 00001464 0000002c 00001469 0000002d 0000146e 0000002e Call Trace: Code: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Bad EIP value. The system then attempts to boot after 120 seconds, but doesn't get very far before falling in a heap. Anyone got any ideas on this one? -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Thu Feb 2 12:35:02 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:35:02 +0000 Subject: System Freeze at "Retrieving installation information" In-Reply-To: <1138850752.13084.2.camel@bree.local.net> References: <20060202031819.GA14225@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1138850752.13084.2.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43E1FC76.3030502@adslpipe.co.uk> Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 22:18 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > >> Ahh Haa! Is this another sqlite problem? > > Yeah, since anaconda is using yum on the backend (with sqlite), we'll > hit the same bug there Ah good, I have been trying to do a re-install (on i386 and x86_64) to double check that the OOM issues I had previously seen have been fixed, I was running into this, but hadn't realised what it was ... From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Feb 2 12:36:39 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:36:39 +0000 Subject: OOo not working Q Message-ID: <1138883799.3741.20.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> Hi, It looks, from the throwback, that the problem is Java related. Is there any way to disable Java (either gcj or Sun's flavour) in the .openoffice.org-2.0 directory or is it a global thing? I did delete the Java_x86.xml file (well, rename it), but it was put back on by OOo as the gcj version (it was the Sun version) so it must be set somewhere else. TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" - Dr Who From caolanm at redhat.com Thu Feb 2 12:53:28 2006 From: caolanm at redhat.com (Caolan McNamara) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:53:28 +0000 Subject: OOo not working Q In-Reply-To: <1138883799.3741.20.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> References: <1138883799.3741.20.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> Message-ID: <1138884808.3892.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 12:36 +0000, Paul F. Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > It looks, from the throwback, that the problem is Java related. Is there > any way to disable Java (either gcj or Sun's flavour) in > the .openoffice.org-2.0 directory or is it a global thing? > > I did delete the Java_x86.xml file (well, rename it), but it was put > back on by OOo as the gcj version (it was the Sun version) so it must be > set somewhere else. tools->options->openoffice.org->java untick "use a java runtime environment" which should equates in your ~/.openoffice.org2.0/user/config/javasettings_Linux*.xml to a false line instead of true e.g. false I don't see a build report nor do I see any files in rawhide from the 2nd. What happened? I know we were at least awaiting the fix for the known yum (actually python, I think) bug. -b From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Feb 2 13:01:24 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:01:24 +0000 Subject: OOo not working Q In-Reply-To: <1138884808.3892.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1138883799.3741.20.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> <1138884808.3892.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1138885284.3741.28.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> Hi, > > I did delete the Java_x86.xml file (well, rename it), but it was put > > back on by OOo as the gcj version (it was the Sun version) so it must be > > set somewhere else. > > tools->options->openoffice.org->java untick "use a java runtime > environment" > > which should equates in your > ~/.openoffice.org2.0/user/config/javasettings_Linux*.xml to a > false > line instead of > true Still dead. When is the buildsys going to say libneon has been updated or even say "hi folks - here's today's yummy scrummy updates"? TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" - Dr Who From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Feb 2 13:31:20 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:31:20 +0000 Subject: rawhide build today? In-Reply-To: <1138885216.3159.1.camel@zaphod.graze.net> References: <1138885216.3159.1.camel@zaphod.graze.net> Message-ID: <1138887080.3741.40.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> Hi, > I don't see a build report nor do I see any files in rawhide from the > 2nd. What happened? I know we were at least awaiting the fix for the > known yum (actually python, I think) bug. And the OOo one - which is more important to me. Maybe it's gone off in a huff or someone put a copy of MS Server 2003 near the buildsys to scare it ;-p TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" - Dr Who From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Thu Feb 2 13:37:21 2006 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:37:21 -0500 Subject: How to determine package maintainers? Message-ID: Although my problem is specifically with Core 4 and the Livna repository, my question is generic... How do you find out who the maintainer of a specific package is? I've just upgraded? to Core 4, and one of my requirements is Audacity. The version I fetched from Livna, so Livna and freshrpms is now in my repository list, but this version of Audacity has some strange behaviour: 1/ the fonts are too big for the buttons now. 2/ (for example) when you click on the title/menu of a track, the button gets highlighted(depressed), but the menu only appears some of the time. 3/ when recording a track, it results with a random DC offset. (I don't know if this is repeatable yet.) 4/ Now when I do a 'yum upgrade', I get a dependency message: --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package wxGTKi386 0:2.6.2-0.2.2-fc4 set to be upgraded --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: libwx-gtk-2.4.so(GTK2_2.4) for package: audacity --> Processing Dependency: libwx-gtk-2.4.so for package: audacity --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: libwx-gtk-2.4.so(GTK2_2.4) is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx-gtk-2.4.so is needed by package audacity # 2 is the show-stopper right now, the rest are just anoying. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 2 13:48:55 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:18:55 +0530 Subject: How to determine package maintainers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43E20DC7.2070106@fedoraproject.org> Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: >Although my problem is specifically with Core 4 and the Livna repository, >my question is generic... > >How do you find out who the maintainer of a specific package is? > > > In general you dont need to. Just use the relevant tracker like bugzilla to report issues. rpm -qi might specify a packager field. If they have a open cvs it might include a list of package owners. Extras does at http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/owners/?root=extras --- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 14:11:09 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:11:09 -0500 Subject: Fedora 5 {test,development} on G5? In-Reply-To: <200602011947.k11JlkvJ015895@guild.plethora.net> References: <91f88ee20602011134q768f43cave182bfb8cabe528d@mail.gmail.com> <200602011947.k11JlkvJ015895@guild.plethora.net> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602020611ub15cb1dl5e6089d3690ad326@mail.gmail.com> On 2/1/06, Peter Seebach wrote: > Will it install and boot on the quad G5? It failed for me, hanging fairly > early in the boot process. (It was definitely ppc32, because there's no ISOs > for ppc64 for FC5T2.) Not having a PPC64-type system I cannot say what to try to get it to work. I have actually gotten FC5T2 PPC32 to install on various iMacs. -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 14:12:19 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:12:19 -0500 Subject: FC5T2 issues with GLUT In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602011213v447be619j1a879ec6100649c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0601291400t97c4bcdm2fef5df0ebe791e1@mail.gmail.com> <91f88ee20602010505r25934d15l427e5db60c536efb@mail.gmail.com> <8767947e0602011213v447be619j1a879ec6100649c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602020612v1ced8756p3ed2224113992bb@mail.gmail.com> On 2/1/06, Jonathan Berry wrote: > > http://nehe.gamedev.net/ > > > > ??? > > I don't get what you are suggesting. There seems to be an issue with > GLUT, or perhaps it is in MESA. The code I used was simply an example > (and one that works fine on FC4). What were you expecting me to get > from nehe about Rawhide? Not suggesting anything -- those are the exampls that I have been playing with -- just more info related than anything else. -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From dgregor at redhat.com Thu Feb 2 14:28:19 2006 From: dgregor at redhat.com (Dennis Gregorovic) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:28:19 -0500 Subject: rawhide build today? In-Reply-To: <1138885216.3159.1.camel@zaphod.graze.net> References: <1138885216.3159.1.camel@zaphod.graze.net> Message-ID: <1138890500.31538.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 08:00 -0500, Brian C. huffman wrote: > I don't see a build report nor do I see any files in rawhide from the > 2nd. What happened? I know we were at least awaiting the fix for the > known yum (actually python, I think) bug. > > -b This one was my fault. I'm working on it now. Cheers -- Dennis From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 14:55:06 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:55:06 -0500 Subject: libneon.so.24 Update Missing? Message-ID: <91f88ee20602020655h2e0353b4t325f3cbaa2df8e29@mail.gmail.com> No matter how I shake the salt - this pepper comes out the wrong way: --> Processing Dependency: libneon.so.24 for package: openoffice.org-core --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: libneon.so.24 is needed by package ( ... damn near everything this go around... ) Ideas? =) -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From gstool at earthlink.net Thu Feb 2 14:58:39 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 08:58:39 -0600 Subject: libneon.so.24 Update Missing? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602020655h2e0353b4t325f3cbaa2df8e29@mail.gmail.com> References: <91f88ee20602020655h2e0353b4t325f3cbaa2df8e29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E21E1F.9060300@earthlink.net> Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: >No matter how I shake the salt - this pepper comes out the wrong way: > >--> Processing Dependency: libneon.so.24 for package: openoffice.org-core >--> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: >libneon.so.24 is needed by package ( ... damn near everything this go >around... ) > >Ideas? =) >-- >WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting > > > try yum --exclude *neon* --exclude rpm* update worked for my set of updates. Gerry From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 15:00:21 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 10:00:21 -0500 Subject: libneon.so.24 Update Missing? In-Reply-To: <43E21E1F.9060300@earthlink.net> References: <91f88ee20602020655h2e0353b4t325f3cbaa2df8e29@mail.gmail.com> <43E21E1F.9060300@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602020700r2629d1cdye8257f47c986b196@mail.gmail.com> On 2/2/06, Gerry Tool wrote: > yum --exclude *neon* --exclude rpm* update Cool. I'll exclude yum as well as I see that it is quite broken to.. Thanks =) -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Feb 2 15:01:19 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:01:19 +0000 Subject: libneon.so.24 Update Missing? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602020655h2e0353b4t325f3cbaa2df8e29@mail.gmail.com> References: <91f88ee20602020655h2e0353b4t325f3cbaa2df8e29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1138892479.3741.52.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> Hi, > --> Processing Dependency: libneon.so.24 for package: openoffice.org-core > --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: > libneon.so.24 is needed by package ( ... damn near everything this go > around... ) > > Ideas? =) Should be in todays rawhide. Today's rawhide is currently lost somewhere in the ether and will reappear when it gets to the end of it's piece of string. TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" - Dr Who From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 15:08:55 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 10:08:55 -0500 Subject: libneon.so.24 Update Missing? In-Reply-To: <1138892479.3741.52.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> References: <91f88ee20602020655h2e0353b4t325f3cbaa2df8e29@mail.gmail.com> <1138892479.3741.52.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602020708j2a8e192cnb3a68ba26b49b238@mail.gmail.com> =) On 2/2/06, Paul F. Johnson wrote: > Should be in todays rawhide. Today's rawhide is currently lost somewhere > in the ether and will reappear when it gets to the end of it's piece of > string. Yeah, at first I thought it was just a PPC thing but then I hosed yum.ppc pretty good (it totally eats all of RAM and swap space now), so I did some searching and discovered that the same issue exists on my i386 box as well. I'll just have to be patient and wait =) -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From buildsys at redhat.com Thu Feb 2 15:53:17 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 10:53:17 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060202 changes Message-ID: <200602021553.k12FrHK7003484@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Removed package sqlite2 Removed package jakarta-commons-discovery Updated Packages: GConf2-2.13.5-2 --------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Christopher Aillon 2.13.5-2 - Add patch from Mandriva to reload GConf2 every time a schema is added or removed (solves bug 173869) anaconda-10.91.12-1 ------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.91.12-1 - improves %packages section some more (clumens) - give a better error on kickstart lvm syntax errors (clumens) - display vncconnect error messages (clumens) - make swap labels shorter for cciss (dcantrel, #176074) - Make /dev/root for mkinitrd (#171662) - Use pirut stuff for graphical group selection ant-0:1.6.5-1jpp_4fc -------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Archit Shah - 0:1.6.5-1jpp_4fc - build ant without using native code * Mon Jan 09 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:1.6.5-1jpp_3fc - bump again for another gcj fix arts-8:1.5.1-1 -------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Than Ngo 8:1.5.1-1 - 1.5.1 * Wed Jan 18 2006 Than Ngo 8:1.5.0-2 - rebuilt with --enable-new-ldflags * Mon Dec 19 2005 Than Ngo 8:1.5.0-1 - apply patch to fix #169631 autofs-1:4.1.4-16.2 ------------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Ian Kent - 1:4.1.4-16.2 - Add more general patch to translate "_" to "." in map names. (bz #147765) avahi-0.6.6-1 ------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0.6.6-1 - fix bug 179448: mis-alignment of input cmsghdr msg->msg_control buffer on ia64 - Upgrade to 0.6.6 dejagnu-1:1.4.4-5 ----------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Petr Machata 1:1.4.4-5 - Applying H.J. Lu's race condition patch. (#166000) f-spot-0.1.8-2 -------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.1.8-2 - Add sqlite3.patch to ensure that sqlite3 is used if both sqlite2 and sqlite3 are installed. firefox-1.5.0.1-2 ----------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Christopher Aillon - 1.5.0.1-2 - Update language packs to 1.5.0.1 - Add dumpstack.patch * Wed Feb 01 2006 Christopher Aillon - 1.5.0.1-1 - Update to 1.5.0.1 freeglut-2.4.0-3 ---------------- * Tue Jan 31 2006 Mike A. Harris 2.4.0-3 - Added "Requires: libGL-devel libGLU-devel" to fix bug (#179464) - Change file based GL header build dep to BuildRequires: libGL-devel * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating 2.4.0-2.1 - rebuilt * Fri Nov 18 2005 Bill Nottingham 2.4.0-2 - Remove references to obsolete /usr/X11R6 paths gcc-4.1.0-0.19 -------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.19 - s390{,x} long double patch fix for s390x ICEs on test-ldouble and tst-align2 (Andreas Krebbel) gjdoc-0.7.7-2 ------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Andrew Overholt 0.7.7-2 - Don't package .la files (rh#172634). - Install un-versioned symlinks in /usr/share/java (rh#177139). gnome-menus-2.13.5-4 -------------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Ray Strode 2.13.5-4 - don't ship upstream Desktop.directory files indent-2.2.9-11 --------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Petr Machata 2.2.9-11 - Setting LC_ALL instead of LC_MESSAGES in order to fix output of KOI8-R characters. (#134044) initscripts-8.24-1 ------------------ * Wed Feb 01 2006 Bill Nottingham 8.24-1 - init.d/functions: fix sendmail startup - sysconfig.txt: fix typos () kdebase-6:3.5.1-1 ----------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 - apply patch to fix kded segfaults for audio/blank cd's - get rid some of unneeded patches - add buildrequires on libxkbfile-devel * Thu Jan 26 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.0-3 - add BuildPrereq on dbus-devel >= 0.60, hal-devel >= 0.5 kdelibs-6:3.5.1-1 ----------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 * Thu Jan 19 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.0-6 - rename subpackage to -apidocs kernel-2.6.15-1.1895_FC5 ------------------------ * Wed Feb 01 2006 Dave Jones < - Woo, 2.6.16rc1-git5 (at last) - Enable exec* checking except for execmod for ppc32 and ia64 (#178747) - Disable a bunch of drivers for SBC's that won't run Fedora. - Reenable building of firmware for QLogic HBA's. - Add a bunch of missing newlines & the like to module init's. - Fix up broken DVB kobject use. - Fixed an oops in the stradis driver initialisation. - Happy Birthday to "The Yellow Dart". * Tue Jan 31 2006 Dave Jones < - Remove prereq on hardlink, making hardlinking of -devel packages optional - Further improvements to the 'dont want to hardlink' case. Now checks for HARDLINK="no" in /etc/sysconfig/kernel * Tue Jan 31 2006 Don Zickus < - Enable x86-64 kdumping, and kdump related specfile cleanup. libFS-1.0.0-2 ------------- * Mon Jan 23 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0-2 - Bumped and rebuilt m17n-db-1.3.1-1 --------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Jens Petersen - 1.3.1-1 - update to 1.3.1 release - add new icons to language subpackages - new common-cjk subpackage for CJK common files - new Swedish subpackage - exclude new pkgconfig file openoffice.org-1:2.0.1.1-9.2 ---------------------------- * Fri Jan 27 2006 Caolan McNamara - 1:2.0.1.1-9 - add openoffice.org-2.0.2.ooo61178.ucb.neon25.patch for neon 0.25.X - missing %defattr(-,root,root) - rh#179256# if java fails (i.e. was configured to use libgcj.so.6) reconfigure to pick up libgcj.so.7 - rh#177205# add some templates, including a fedora themed presentation openssh-4.3p1-1 --------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Tomas Mraz - 4.3p1-1 - new version, dropped obsolete patches pam_smb-1.1.7-7 --------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai 1.1.7-7 - remove a stray quote from configure.in that was causing a syntax error and breaking recompiles (upstream #1422089) perl-4:5.8.8-1 -------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4:5.8.8-1 - Upgrade to new upstream release 5.8.8, officially released today * Tue Jan 31 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3:5.8.8-0.1_RC1 - fix bug 178343: h2ph must include cpp "predefined macros" in _h2ph_pre.ph - Add perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) to Provides - Fix perlbug patch * Fri Jan 20 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3:5.8.8-0_RC1 - Upgrade to new upstream release candidate 5.8.8-RC1 pirut-0.9.8-1 ------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Jeremy Katz - 0.9.8-1 - Some fixes to single-install-packages from Tim Lauridsen (#178908) - Tweaks to the optional packages installed label (#178088, #179205) pykickstart-0.17-1 ------------------ * Wed Feb 01 2006 Chris Lumens 0.17-1 - Don't set a default port for vnc. python-sqlite-1.1.6-3 --------------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Paul Nasrat - 1.1.6-3 - Pass valid parameter to prepare (#179547) - Temporarily remove %check * Wed Feb 01 2006 Paul Nasrat - 1.1.6-2 - Rebuild redhat-artwork-0.235-2 ---------------------- * Mon Jan 30 2006 Ray Strode 0.235-2 - create symlinks from redhat artwork to gnome overrides redhat-menus-6.5.4-2 -------------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Ray Strode - 6.5.4-2 - fix applications menu * Wed Feb 01 2006 Ray Strode - 6.5.4-1 - merge /usr/local/share/applications - ship separate directory file for System menu rhpxl-0.13-1 ------------ * Wed Feb 01 2006 Chris Lumens 0.13-1 - Add aspect ratio patch from Jef Spaleta (#158143). rhythmbox-0.9.3-2 ----------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Christopher Aillon 0.9.3-2 - Remove hack for 173869, as its no longer needed. * Wed Feb 01 2006 Christopher Aillon 0.9.3-1 - 0.9.3 * Wed Feb 01 2006 Christopher Aillon 0.9.2.cvs20060201-1 - Newer CVS snapshot selinux-policy-2.2.9-2 ---------------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.9-2 - Fix for spamd to use ldap * Fri Jan 27 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.9-1 - Update to upstream system-config-soundcard-1.2.14-6 -------------------------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Martin Stransky 1.2.14-6 - added alsa-lib/utils log Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- ccs-devel - 1.0.2-3.1.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.2-3.1 gulm - 1.0.4-2.FC5.1.ppc requires ccs Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- systemtap - 0.5.3-2.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 systemtap - 0.5.3-2.s390 requires kernel-devel Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjava-2.8.so()(64bit) libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjni-2.8.so()(64bit) systemtap - 0.5.3-2.s390x requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 systemtap - 0.5.3-2.s390x requires kernel-devel Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 From sgrubb at redhat.com Thu Feb 2 16:33:52 2006 From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steven Grubb) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:33:52 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: audit-1.0.13-1.fc4 Message-ID: <200602021633.k12GXq131713@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-073 2006-02-02 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : audit Version : 1.0.13 Release : 1.fc4 Summary : User space tools for 2.6 kernel auditing. Description : The audit package contains the user space utilities for storing and searching the audit records generate by the audit subsystem in the Linux 2.6 kernel. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This release backports some bugfixes and enhancements from the current devel branch. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Thu Feb 2 2006 Steve Grubb 1.0.13-1.fc4 - Fix bug in autrace where it didn't run on kernels without file watch support - Add timestamp to daemon_config messages (#174865) - Add error checking of year for aureport & ausearch - Treat af_unix sockets as files for searching and reporting - Update capp & lspp rules to combine syscalls for higher performance - Apply patch from Ulrich Drepper that optimizes resource utilization - Change ausearch and aureport to unlocked IO - Add more message types - Add support for alpha processors - Add locale code in ausearch and aureport - Cleanup make files --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 498b790d74b245192e18b15b3f32a4502c77135c SRPMS/audit-1.0.13-1.fc4.src.rpm e4e7e1185d8e8c2af76663150ae8bc33a8b8e2d7 ppc/audit-1.0.13-1.fc4.ppc.rpm fc7c8f823c09cba264d0b792d0d8caafb9804993 ppc/audit-libs-1.0.13-1.fc4.ppc.rpm 16abf497f7a9f95052b0bdc1ee7260a04c1a654d ppc/audit-libs-devel-1.0.13-1.fc4.ppc.rpm 094ac62919ceb7293ccb854c360c49151b5f2a03 ppc/debug/audit-debuginfo-1.0.13-1.fc4.ppc.rpm c79c2ff08be9e6a0654fff88fd72471515019948 x86_64/audit-1.0.13-1.fc4.x86_64.rpm cb6b6b457d809c42f6dde3f0fbe9c51e64e51fe3 x86_64/audit-libs-1.0.13-1.fc4.x86_64.rpm 554707a4d53f9eb22dbe3daaa8be82409bfe55ff x86_64/audit-libs-devel-1.0.13-1.fc4.x86_64.rpm 1ee21f5b79caa111c8157b6db65320a1c20c495d x86_64/debug/audit-debuginfo-1.0.13-1.fc4.x86_64.rpm ba6237b04e4a5db25aedb46acdea97737d786b31 i386/audit-1.0.13-1.fc4.i386.rpm 9b37f9dca42b3f90a84af7b01f6c388b868063e3 i386/audit-libs-1.0.13-1.fc4.i386.rpm 4c047b270c40ecc926ef5955cd2f93c19a7bc62e i386/audit-libs-devel-1.0.13-1.fc4.i386.rpm 897a4005239df5f6492d14704b6907b877390cbb i386/debug/audit-debuginfo-1.0.13-1.fc4.i386.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From harald at redhat.com Thu Feb 2 16:33:55 2006 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:33:55 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.1 Message-ID: <200602021633.k12GXt131728@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-074 2006-02-02 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : module-init-tools Version : 3.2 Release : 0.pre9.0.FC4.1 Summary : Kernel module management utilities. Description : The modutils package includes various programs needed for automatic loading and unloading of modules under 2.2 and later kernels, as well as other module management programs. Device drivers and filesystems are two examples of loaded and unloaded modules. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This version blacklists the framebuffer modules, so they will not be modprobed automatically with udev > 071. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Thu Feb 2 2006 Harald Hoyer 3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.1 - FC4 version with fb modules blacklisted * Tue Jan 24 2006 Harald Hoyer 3.2-0.pre9.2 - ghost /etc/modprobe.conf (#130603) * Fri Dec 9 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt * Sun Nov 6 2005 Florian La Roche - update to 3.2pre9 * Fri Sep 9 2005 Bill Nottingham 3.2-0.pre7.3 - don't escape '-' in module names for module.alias --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 2b916b517654aa8103e930055e2b902d8898b29b SRPMS/module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.1.src.rpm 4688f661d24dc4eb47c00c784400b86489fbdfc3 ppc/module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.1.ppc.rpm ce5c30d2692740bf2b1a6a4e5b0bde7ee73e135d ppc/debug/module-init-tools-debuginfo-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.1.ppc.rpm 7fe70ff7e0b87da2b4ce90e83f4190c6250237d5 x86_64/module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.1.x86_64.rpm 127eee01a596f2e9c06d896cfce89446da765eaa x86_64/debug/module-init-tools-debuginfo-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.1.x86_64.rpm 31f7f6e2ad6b17f2df8a58d5c0a771c4a1407a71 i386/module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.1.i386.rpm 101f303102a5bbc0fdc46134f85657526dde0317 i386/debug/module-init-tools-debuginfo-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.1.i386.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From michel.salim at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 17:02:59 2006 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:02:59 -0500 Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: References: <200602012330.k11NUMuk015823@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <883cfe6d0602020902w667cb627t@mail.gmail.com> It would be nice if in the future workaround RPMS are provided for other architectures (e.g. x86_64) as well? - Michel On 01/02/06, Miles Lane wrote: > Download http://people.redhat.com/caillon/RPMS/rawhide/sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm > and run: > rpm -Uvh --force /home/miles/sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm > Worked for me. > > Miles > > On 2/1/06, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 20:30 -0300, Horst von Brand wrote: > > >> i686, Fedora rawhide up to date (except for neon, rpm*, subversion; blocked > > >> by OOo). > > >> > > >> Just updated, now I have yum-2.5.1-3. Running yum just to make sure > > >> everything is now up-to-date gets to more than a minute (!) of CPU time > > >> while checking the local repo data, and OOMs the machine, filling up swap > > >> and making it nearly unresponsive. Only way out is kill -KILL, AFAICS. > > >> > > >> Just too bad I can't find an old yum RPM lying around just now... > > > > > > Known bug, and it's not caused by yum. > > > > > > > > The problem seems to be with sqlite. But if your update run was > > successful, you might have stuff dependent on it. I guess, when they > > release a new one, we can manually update it. Then we should be OK. > > > > HTH. > > > > -- > > Bill in Denver > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- Michel Salim ??? http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~msalim From nphilipp at redhat.com Thu Feb 2 17:10:02 2006 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:10:02 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: system-config-nfs-1.3.18-0.fc4.1 Message-ID: <200602021710.k12HA2115689@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-069 2006-02-02 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : system-config-nfs Version : 1.3.18 Release : 0.fc4.1 Summary : NFS server configuration tool Description : system-config-nfs is a graphical user interface for creating, modifying, and deleting nfs shares. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update rebases system-config-nfs to version 1.3.18. It contains various bug fixes and some feature enhancements. Barring problems I plan to make this update final by the end of the week. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Thu Feb 2 2006 Nils Philippsen 1.3.18 - don't complain when trying to edit a share (#179687) - handle wildcards in warning messages for duplicates * Wed Feb 1 2006 Nils Philippsen 1.3.17 - reset properties dialog before being shown for the first time * Mon Jan 30 2006 Nils Philippsen - use pam_stack on FC-4 * Mon Jan 30 2006 Nils Philippsen 1.3.16 - avoid exporting a share more than once to a specific client - allow exporting a share with different settings for different clients (#178830) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 175a0355b1f59f6a72d2e48d8e2813980ceb4063 SRPMS/system-config-nfs-1.3.18-0.fc4.1.src.rpm 8fbf42aab415d0582647d09167ce201112e2c155 ppc/system-config-nfs-1.3.18-0.fc4.1.noarch.rpm 8fbf42aab415d0582647d09167ce201112e2c155 x86_64/system-config-nfs-1.3.18-0.fc4.1.noarch.rpm 8fbf42aab415d0582647d09167ce201112e2c155 i386/system-config-nfs-1.3.18-0.fc4.1.noarch.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From bmillett at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 17:28:28 2006 From: bmillett at gmail.com (Brian Millett) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:28:28 -0600 Subject: gnome is dead (kind of) since 2/1/2006 updates Message-ID: <162a26980602020928la3b168cv38f1aaedc465d29c@mail.gmail.com> I need some good advice on how to debug this problem. I have yum updated rawhide today (2/2/2006) on a x86 toshiba laptop and I still have a kind of broken gnome that broke 2/1/2006. What I mean is that as my current user, I try to startx from runlevel 3 and it goes for a while and then dies and I am back at the command prompt. I can add a new user and login as that user and can startx just fine as a new virgin user. But from my old user, gnome will not start. I do not have any error messages in /var/log/messages nor /var/log/Xorg.0.log nor any where else that I can think of. How do I debug this? Can X be started in a verbose debug mode? I'd like to file a bugzilla, but on what? System is hosed is not a menu item, nor very helpful. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miles.lane at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 17:36:16 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:36:16 -0800 Subject: CVS snapshot of amaroK for rawhide? Message-ID: Hello, I noticed today that rawhide includes a snapshot of rhythmbox. Could we have a snapshot of amaroK, too? amaroK is a fantastic music player and now supports reading and writing ID3 tags in m4a files (AAC compression). This enables me to play my Apple iTunes files (where all my music is stored). I found a transcoder for m4a to ogg, but I had to run it under Wine and I couldn't figure out how to batch the processing. Also, I didn't want to lose audio quality in the conversion. Ripping all my music to ogg would take a very long time, because I have a few thousand CDs. I understand that rawhide won't have mp3/m4a audio file support, but maybe I could find the required packages in some other respository? All the best, Miles From kimmo.koivisto at surfeu.fi Thu Feb 2 18:05:25 2006 From: kimmo.koivisto at surfeu.fi (Kimmo Koivisto) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 20:05:25 +0200 Subject: Kernel 2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 crashes on boot on Dell Inspiron 8600 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200602022005.26362.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> Steven Haigh kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika Thursday 02 February 2006 12:58): > When booting off kernel-2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 the system sets the clock, > tries to start udev, then dies. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178708 I and couple of other users have the same problem, using older kernel works for me. Best Regards Kimmo Koivisto From justin.conover at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 18:05:46 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:05:46 -0600 Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d0602020902w667cb627t@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602012330.k11NUMuk015823@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <1138836767.5102.14.camel@ignacio.lan> <883cfe6d0602020902w667cb627t@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/2/06, Michel Salim wrote: > > It would be nice if in the future workaround RPMS are provided for > other architectures (e.g. x86_64) as well? > > - Michel > > On 01/02/06, Miles Lane wrote: > > Download > http://people.redhat.com/caillon/RPMS/rawhide/sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm > > and run: > > rpm -Uvh --force /home/miles/sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm > > Worked for me. > > > > Miles > > > > On 2/1/06, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 > wrote: > > > On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 20:30 -0300, Horst von Brand wrote: > > > >> i686, Fedora rawhide up to date (except for neon, rpm*, subversion; > blocked > > > >> by OOo). > > > >> > > > >> Just updated, now I have yum-2.5.1-3. Running yum just to make sure > > > >> everything is now up-to-date gets to more than a minute (!) of CPU > time > > > >> while checking the local repo data, and OOMs the machine, filling > up swap > > > >> and making it nearly unresponsive. Only way out is kill -KILL, > AFAICS. > > > >> > > > >> Just too bad I can't find an old yum RPM lying around just now... > > > > > > > > Known bug, and it's not caused by yum. > > > > > > > > > > > The problem seems to be with sqlite. But if your update run was > > > successful, you might have stuff dependent on it. I guess, when they > > > release a new one, we can manually update it. Then we should be OK. > > > > > > HTH. > > > > > > -- > > > Bill in Denver > > > > > > -- > > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > To unsubscribe: > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > -- > Michel Salim ??? > http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~msalim > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > There was a work around, use the old package. Until todays rawhide. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin.conover at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 18:33:59 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:33:59 -0600 Subject: CVS snapshot of amaroK for rawhide? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/2/06, Miles Lane wrote: > > Hello, > > I noticed today that rawhide includes a snapshot of rhythmbox. Could > we have a snapshot of amaroK, too? amaroK is a fantastic music player > and now supports reading and writing ID3 tags in m4a files (AAC > compression). This enables me to play my Apple iTunes files (where > all my music is stored). I found a transcoder for m4a to ogg, but I > had to run it under Wine and I couldn't figure out how to batch the > processing. Also, I didn't want to lose audio quality in the > conversion. Ripping all my music to ogg would take a very long time, > because I have a few thousand CDs. I understand that rawhide won't > have mp3/m4a audio file support, but maybe I could find the required > packages in some other respository? > > All the best, > Miles > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > I would imagine if they grabbed a snapshot of amarok,it will exclude aac since its not "open source". You'll need to grab gstreamer-* plugins from freshrpms or maybe gstreamer.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl Thu Feb 2 18:49:24 2006 From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:49:24 +0100 Subject: CVS snapshot of amaroK for rawhide? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060202184924.GA22337@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:36:16AM -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > Hello, > > I noticed today that rawhide includes a snapshot of rhythmbox. Could > we have a snapshot of amaroK, too? amaroK is a fantastic music player > and now supports reading and writing ID3 tags in m4a files (AAC > compression). This enables me to play my Apple iTunes files (where > all my music is stored). I found a transcoder for m4a to ogg, but I > had to run it under Wine and I couldn't figure out how to batch the > processing. Wine? Why not use mplayer -ao pcm to a fifo and encode with oggenc from that fifo? It's a fast and scriptable solution. > Also, I didn't want to lose audio quality in the > conversion. Ripping all my music to ogg would take a very long time, > because I have a few thousand CDs. I understand that rawhide won't > have mp3/m4a audio file support, but maybe I could find the required > packages in some other respository? livna has/will have something for sure. -- Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling Warsaw University | http://www.icm.edu.pl | tel. +48 (22) 5540810 From dravet at hotmail.com Thu Feb 2 19:00:26 2006 From: dravet at hotmail.com (Jason Dravet) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:00:26 -0600 Subject: bad depenency on gnome-games Message-ID: Per the gnome-games upstream maintainer gnome-games should not depend on gstreamer08. I opened https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179769 to have the dependency updated. >Does any know if gnome-games has been updated to use gstreamer 0.10? A >funny thing is gnome-games only requires gstreamer and not >gstreamer-plugins. Is this a requirements bug? I am running fedora core >rawhide and gnome-games-2.13.6. > This would appear to be a bug where some test code slipped into the CVS repository without being disabled. There is currently no need for gnome-games to depend on gstreamer (although I hope to use it eventually). The problem has been fixed in the CVS repository. - Callum Thanks, Jason From fedora-test at dsmouse.org Thu Feb 2 19:12:32 2006 From: fedora-test at dsmouse.org (mouse) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:12:32 -0500 Subject: gnome is dead (kind of) since 2/1/2006 updates In-Reply-To: <162a26980602020928la3b168cv38f1aaedc465d29c@mail.gmail.com> References: <162a26980602020928la3b168cv38f1aaedc465d29c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1138907553.27719.13.camel@rocks> I was looking at this a little bit. It looks like the apps are sitting there eating up memory till they get OOM-killed (OOM==out of memory, of course). You can check this by running 'dmesg' and looking for errors. I did some further ltracing on a few programs. "metacity" seems to go till it gets to "pango_context_get_language" and then "pango_context_get_matrics", and then sits till I killed it. "gnome-session" didn't give anything so clear, but seemed to be opening a font, reading a lot of bytes, and then moving on, forever. For S&G I checked fluxbox too, which hung in XftFontOpenName, still eating away memory. The really funny thing is if I log in via a fail-safe session, root *can* start gnome-session. On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 11:28 -0600, Brian Millett wrote: > I need some good advice on how to debug this problem. > I have yum updated rawhide today (2/2/2006) on a x86 toshiba laptop > and I still have a kind of broken gnome that broke 2/1/2006. > > What I mean is that as my current user, I try to startx from runlevel > 3 and it goes for a while and then dies and I am back at the command > prompt. I can add a new user and login as that user and can startx > just fine as a new virgin user. But from my old user, gnome will not > start. > > I do not have any error messages in /var/log/messages > nor /var/log/Xorg.0.log nor any where else that I can think of. > > How do I debug this? Can X be started in a verbose debug mode? > > I'd like to file a bugzilla, but on what? System is hosed is not a > menu item, nor very helpful. > > Thanks. > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From miles.lane at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 19:18:54 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:18:54 -0800 Subject: CVS snapshot of amaroK for rawhide? In-Reply-To: <20060202184924.GA22337@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> References: <20060202184924.GA22337@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> Message-ID: On 2/2/06, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:36:16AM -0800, Miles Lane wrote: [...] > > I understand that rawhide won't > > have mp3/m4a audio file support, but maybe I could find the required > > packages in some other respository? > > livna has/will have something for sure. Livna doesn't seem to support rawhide: http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/4.91/i386/RPMS.lvn/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:16:24 GMT From dstolte at arcor.de Thu Feb 2 19:24:28 2006 From: dstolte at arcor.de (D. Stolte) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:24:28 +0100 Subject: gnome is dead (kind of) since 2/1/2006 updates In-Reply-To: <1138907553.27719.13.camel@rocks> References: <162a26980602020928la3b168cv38f1aaedc465d29c@mail.gmail.com> <1138907553.27719.13.camel@rocks> Message-ID: <43E25C6C.2060604@arcor.de> The same thing happened with kde. It seems that the new xfs is broken (stuck in a loop). I went back to the xfs from FC5T2 and everything started working again. /ds mouse wrote: > I was looking at this a little bit. It looks like the apps are sitting > there eating up memory till they get OOM-killed (OOM==out of memory, of > course). You can check this by running 'dmesg' and looking for > errors. > > I did some further ltracing on a few programs. "metacity" seems to go > till it gets to "pango_context_get_language" and then > "pango_context_get_matrics", and then sits till I killed it. > "gnome-session" didn't give anything so clear, but seemed to be opening > a font, reading a lot of bytes, and then moving on, forever. > > For S&G I checked fluxbox too, which hung in XftFontOpenName, still > eating away memory. > > The really funny thing is if I log in via a fail-safe session, root > *can* start gnome-session. > > On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 11:28 -0600, Brian Millett wrote: >> I need some good advice on how to debug this problem. >> I have yum updated rawhide today (2/2/2006) on a x86 toshiba laptop >> and I still have a kind of broken gnome that broke 2/1/2006. >> >> What I mean is that as my current user, I try to startx from runlevel >> 3 and it goes for a while and then dies and I am back at the command >> prompt. I can add a new user and login as that user and can startx >> just fine as a new virgin user. But from my old user, gnome will not >> start. >> >> I do not have any error messages in /var/log/messages >> nor /var/log/Xorg.0.log nor any where else that I can think of. >> >> How do I debug this? Can X be started in a verbose debug mode? >> >> I'd like to file a bugzilla, but on what? System is hosed is not a >> menu item, nor very helpful. >> >> Thanks. >> -- >> fedora-test-list mailing list >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From seebs at plethora.net Thu Feb 2 19:23:15 2006 From: seebs at plethora.net (Peter Seebach) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:23:15 -0600 Subject: Fedora 5 {test,development} on G5? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:11:09 EST." <91f88ee20602020611ub15cb1dl5e6089d3690ad326@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200602021923.k12JNF0v015861@guild.plethora.net> In message <91f88ee20602020611ub15cb1dl5e6089d3690ad326 at mail.gmail.com>, Chasec reek Systemhouse writes: >On 2/1/06, Peter Seebach wrote: >> Will it install and boot on the quad G5? It failed for me, hanging fairly >> early in the boot process. (It was definitely ppc32, because there's no ISOs >> for ppc64 for FC5T2.) >Not having a PPC64-type system I cannot say what to try to get it to work. >I have actually gotten FC5T2 PPC32 to install on various iMacs. Hmm. So it sounds like, right now, there's no one using Fedora on a quad G5, so no one can say whether or not it works. Bleh. I guess I'll check into other distros. -s From notting at redhat.com Thu Feb 2 19:37:49 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:37:49 -0500 Subject: gnome is dead (kind of) since 2/1/2006 updates In-Reply-To: <162a26980602020928la3b168cv38f1aaedc465d29c@mail.gmail.com> References: <162a26980602020928la3b168cv38f1aaedc465d29c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060202193749.GC16912@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Brian Millett (bmillett at gmail.com) said: > I need some good advice on how to debug this problem. > I have yum updated rawhide today (2/2/2006) on a x86 toshiba laptop and I > still have a kind of broken gnome that broke 2/1/2006. > > What I mean is that as my current user, I try to startx from runlevel 3 and > it goes for a while and then dies and I am back at the command prompt. I > can add a new user and login as that user and can startx just fine as a new > virgin user. But from my old user, gnome will not start. > > I do not have any error messages in /var/log/messages nor > /var/log/Xorg.0.log nor any where else that I can think of. > > How do I debug this? Can X be started in a verbose debug mode? > > I'd like to file a bugzilla, but on what? System is hosed is not a menu > item, nor very helpful. What happens if you remove ~/.fonts.cache-2? Bill From bmillett at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 19:41:25 2006 From: bmillett at gmail.com (Brian Millett) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 13:41:25 -0600 Subject: gnome is dead (kind of) since 2/1/2006 updates In-Reply-To: <20060202193749.GC16912@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <162a26980602020928la3b168cv38f1aaedc465d29c@mail.gmail.com> <20060202193749.GC16912@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <162a26980602021141x3c96171ah5b2e8a7bed4e1365@mail.gmail.com> On 2/2/06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Brian Millett (bmillett at gmail.com) said: > > I need some good advice on how to debug this problem. > > I have yum updated rawhide today (2/2/2006) on a x86 toshiba laptop and > I > > still have a kind of broken gnome that broke 2/1/2006. > > > > What I mean is that as my current user, I try to startx from runlevel 3 > and > > it goes for a while and then dies and I am back at the command > prompt. I > > can add a new user and login as that user and can startx just fine as a > new > > virgin user. But from my old user, gnome will not start. > > > > I do not have any error messages in /var/log/messages nor > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log nor any where else that I can think of. > > > > How do I debug this? Can X be started in a verbose debug mode? > > > > I'd like to file a bugzilla, but on what? System is hosed is not a menu > > item, nor very helpful. > > What happens if you remove ~/.fonts.cache-2? I CAN SEE!! Its a miracle! That was it. How did you grok that? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bill From pgraner at redhat.com Thu Feb 2 20:02:31 2006 From: pgraner at redhat.com (Pete Graner) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:02:31 -0500 Subject: gnome is dead (kind of) since 2/1/2006 updates In-Reply-To: <20060202194611.GD16912@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <162a26980602020928la3b168cv38f1aaedc465d29c@mail.gmail.com> <20060202193749.GC16912@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <162a26980602021141x3c96171ah5b2e8a7bed4e1365@mail.gmail.com> <20060202194611.GD16912@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E26557.3040408@redhat.com> Bill Nottingham wrote: > Brian Millett (bmillett at gmail.com) said: >> I CAN SEE!! Its a miracle! >> >> That was it. How did you grok that? > > Ran into it. :) > > I suppose, if I was thinking, I would have saved the cache file. > > If other people are seeing this, can you save the bad cache file > and file a bug against fontconfig? It may be that it was created > by an old bad version that was only in rawhide shortly, and it isn't > a concern. Or it may be a bigger concern.... > > Bill > I hit it today and Chris Blizzard told me to gleep it. Happened to me after todays rawhide upgrade. Pete -- Pete Graner email: From tjb at unh.edu Thu Feb 2 20:29:45 2006 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:29:45 -0500 Subject: Windows Key works as a single key instead of a modifier Message-ID: <1138912185.4605.1.camel@intrepid> Can anyone use the windows key as a modifier (like shift or alt). Mine always works as a single key, Meta_L. Under which component would I file a bug? tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 2 20:35:46 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:35:46 -0800 Subject: Windows Key works as a single key instead of a modifier In-Reply-To: <1138912185.4605.1.camel@intrepid> References: <1138912185.4605.1.camel@intrepid> Message-ID: <1138912546.2639.7.camel@ender> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 15:29 -0500, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > Can anyone use the windows key as a modifier (like shift or alt). Mine > always works as a single key, Meta_L. Under which component would I file > a bug? There is a gconf key for that. Or there used to be. I can't find it now.... -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Thu Feb 2 20:38:44 2006 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:38:44 -0500 Subject: Windows Key works as a single key instead of a modifier In-Reply-To: <1138912185.4605.1.camel@intrepid> References: <1138912185.4605.1.camel@intrepid> Message-ID: <1138912724.23767.24.camel@ignacio.lan> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 15:29 -0500, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > Can anyone use the windows key as a modifier (like shift or alt). Mine > always works as a single key, Meta_L. Under which component would I file > a bug? I think you mean Super_L. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165343 -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From guy at incentre.net Thu Feb 2 21:55:57 2006 From: guy at incentre.net (Guy Fraser) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:55:57 -0700 Subject: Windows Key works as a single key instead of a modifier In-Reply-To: <1138912724.23767.24.camel@ignacio.lan> References: <1138912185.4605.1.camel@intrepid> <1138912724.23767.24.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <1138917358.2480.22.camel@sigurd.incentre.net> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 15:38 -0500, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 15:29 -0500, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > > Can anyone use the windows key as a modifier (like shift or alt). Mine > > always works as a single key, Meta_L. Under which component would I file > > a bug? > > I think you mean Super_L. > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165343 > It can be either or anything else, I think you can set it under layout options in keyboard preferences. From streeter at redhat.com Thu Feb 2 22:02:25 2006 From: streeter at redhat.com (Guy Streeter) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:02:25 -0600 Subject: Windows Key works as a single key instead of a modifier In-Reply-To: <1138917358.2480.22.camel@sigurd.incentre.net> References: <1138912185.4605.1.camel@intrepid> <1138912724.23767.24.camel@ignacio.lan> <1138917358.2480.22.camel@sigurd.incentre.net> Message-ID: <1138917745.28517.11.camel@mentos.hsv.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 14:55 -0700, Guy Fraser wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 15:38 -0500, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 15:29 -0500, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > > > Can anyone use the windows key as a modifier (like shift or alt). Mine > > > always works as a single key, Meta_L. Under which component would I file > > > a bug? > > > > I think you mean Super_L. > > > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165343 > > > It can be either or anything else, I think you can set it under layout > options in keyboard preferences. > You can set it on the Layout Options tab in FC4. It isn't there on FC5. --Guy From ddmbox2000 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 2 22:17:06 2006 From: ddmbox2000 at yahoo.co.uk (dex) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 22:17:06 +0000 Subject: gnome is dead (kind of) since 2/1/2006 updates In-Reply-To: <20060202194611.GD16912@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <162a26980602020928la3b168cv38f1aaedc465d29c@mail.gmail.com> <162a26980602021141x3c96171ah5b2e8a7bed4e1365@mail.gmail.com> <20060202194611.GD16912@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200602022217.06512.ddmbox2000@yahoo.co.uk> On Thu February 2 2006 19:46, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Brian Millett (bmillett at gmail.com) said: > > I CAN SEE!! Its a miracle! > > > > That was it. How did you grok that? > > Ran into it. :) > > I suppose, if I was thinking, I would have saved the cache file. > > If other people are seeing this, can you save the bad cache file > and file a bug against fontconfig? It may be that it was created > by an old bad version that was only in rawhide shortly, and it isn't > a concern. Or it may be a bigger concern.... > > Bill saved the day :-) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179782 ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Thu Feb 2 22:19:14 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 17:19:14 -0500 Subject: Latets yum thoroughly hosed?! In-Reply-To: <20060202075204.26423.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060202075204.26423.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43E28562.6060403@insight.rr.com> George R Goffe wrote: > Howdy, > > My two cents. > > I'm having the same yum problem that everyone is/was having. I have > run these commands: > > rpm -e sqlite-devel-3.3.3-1.i386 \ rpm-devel-4.4.2-13.i386 > net-snmp-devel-5.3-3.i386 > > and then this one: > > rpm -Uvh --oldpackage sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm > > All appears to be cool now except that libneon is causing(?) a > missing dependency: > > Error: Missing Dependency: libneon.so.24 is needed by package kdesvn > Error: Missing Dependency: libneon.so.24 is needed by package > openoffice.org-core > > Not provided by any rpm? > > > The question about what's killing the yum process might be answered > by the presence of a "new" (new to the later 2.4 kernels anyway) > kernel option (I forget the exact terminology) "oom killer?". I > think it's either this "feature" (that made it into the 2.6 kernels > as a permanent fixture) or the system just running out of memory and > killing the process as part of a recovery. I let my system run for a > while (completely disabled apparently) when the "killed" message > appeared. On subsequent attempts to use yum I watched xosview and it > showed a steady increas in paging and swap and memory usage which > you might expect given the previous reports. I have a "strace -xvf > yum update" output file that shows what's happening. Of course you > have to have strace installed, apparently it does NOT come with a > "default" system install, whatever that is. Yum(?) or someone is > looping on a brk system call. I haven't analyzed the trace yet. Thanks for the view regarding what is going wrong with the "feature" which seems to becoming more of a vulnerability with the systems instead of allowing tasks that own memory to continue using their allocated memory. The idea of a system killing processes in order to make more memory available for later run applications does not sound like rational reasoning. If this is the case, the latest application started should pause instead of killing previous processes. This problem with sqlite sounds similar to discussions related to bombing systems, where the system was put into a bad state by repeatdly starting processes in a loop. If this "feature is added to the kernel, the kernel needs to also limit saturation of swap or memory. Just my thoughts regarding having even the possibility to down a system with OOM possibilities. Those that think that downing systems will surely enjoy the thrill of having Linux with this sort of vulnerability. Jim > > Regards, > > George... > > p.s., This group is GREAT! > -- Where do you want Bill Gates to go today? -- From a Slashdot.org post From tjb at unh.edu Fri Feb 3 00:52:59 2006 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:52:59 -0500 Subject: Windows Key works as a single key instead of a modifier In-Reply-To: <1138912724.23767.24.camel@ignacio.lan> References: <1138912185.4605.1.camel@intrepid> <1138912724.23767.24.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <1138927979.3239.7.camel@intrepid> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 15:38 -0500, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 15:29 -0500, Thomas J. Baker wrote: > > Can anyone use the windows key as a modifier (like shift or alt). Mine > > always works as a single key, Meta_L. Under which component would I file > > a bug? > > I think you mean Super_L. > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165343 Yes, right. I didn't realized that FC4 had this bug too but when I went to the keyboard applet and tried setting a new binding with the windows key, it had the same problem. Old bindings that are set to key work with FC4 but setting the same bindings with gconf on FC5 don't work. tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From netwiz at crc.id.au Fri Feb 3 01:23:34 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:23:34 +1100 (EST) Subject: Kernel 2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 crashes on boot on Dell Inspiron 8600 In-Reply-To: <200602022005.26362.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> References: <200602022005.26362.kimmo.koivisto@surfeu.fi> Message-ID: <15672.192.94.41.42.1138929814.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> > Steven Haigh kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika Thursday 02 February 2006 > 12:58): >> When booting off kernel-2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 the system sets the clock, >> tries to start udev, then dies. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178708 > > I and couple of other users have the same problem, using older kernel > works > for me. > Hmmm - this looks different than mine: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179714 From wes.shull at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 02:44:19 2006 From: wes.shull at gmail.com (Wes Shull) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:44:19 -0700 Subject: CVS snapshot of amaroK for rawhide? In-Reply-To: References: <20060202184924.GA22337@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> Message-ID: On 2/2/06, Miles Lane wrote: > Livna doesn't seem to support rawhide: > http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/4.91/i386/RPMS.lvn/repodata/repomd.xml: > [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:16:24 GMT Edit your /etc/yum.repos.d/livna.repo and replace all the $releasever with 4 so that it pulls in the FC4 packages. Not everything will work; in particular there won't be prebuilt kernel modules for rawhide kernels, but most of it should be fine. --wes From admin at ramshacklestudios.com Fri Feb 3 04:12:48 2006 From: admin at ramshacklestudios.com (Peter Gordon) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:12:48 -0800 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.1 In-Reply-To: <200602021633.k12GXt131728@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> References: <200602021633.k12GXt131728@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1138939968.3152.12.camel@tuxhugger> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 11:33 -0500, Harald Hoyer wrote: > This version blacklists the framebuffer modules, so they > will not be modprobed automatically with udev > 071. Awesomeness. Thanks, Harald. =) -- Peter Gordon (codergeek42) GnuPG Public Key: 0xDA3634D7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jiri.cerny at epfl.ch Fri Feb 3 07:42:11 2006 From: jiri.cerny at epfl.ch (Jiri Cerny) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:42:11 +0100 Subject: selinux X libxklavier recompilation In-Reply-To: <43E1CF30.6010503@fedora.pl> References: <20060202075642.GA15877@imapc43.epfl.ch> <43E1CF30.6010503@fedora.pl> Message-ID: <20060203074211.GB19288@imapc43.epfl.ch> Thank you for the explanation. I understand now more the problem. > chcon -t texrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/libxklavier.so.10.0.0 > resolves the problem? This command really resolves the problem. > If yes, that means that this patch may be broken > (causes text relocations). I tried to recompile the src.rpm without the patch I have added, that is I recompiled the original rawhide src.rpm. The problem remained even without the patch. After some searching, I found that configure does not find -fPIC option of gcc when run by rpmbuild. It finds this option if it is run directly from the command line. The problem is actually that rpmbuild set environment variable RPM_OPT_FLAGS. Value of this variable contains -mcpu switch, that is deprecated by gcc, and warnings due to this option make the libxklavier configure check for -fPIC fail. I changed -mcpu to -mtune on line 18 of /usr/lib/rpmrc and everything works fine. Should I fill a bug? Against libxklavier or against rpmbuild? Regards, Jiri -- Ji?? ?ern? ?cole Polytechnique F?derale de Lausanne (EPFL) Chair of Stochastic modeling (CMOS) INR 031 - Station 14 CH-1015 Lausanne phone: ++41-21-693 7534 fax: ++41-21-693 7545 e-mail: jiri.cerny at epfl.ch From grgoffe at yahoo.com Fri Feb 3 08:13:05 2006 From: grgoffe at yahoo.com (George R Goffe) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 00:13:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: GRUB not written to MBR - rewrite problem Message-ID: <20060203081305.69404.qmail@web53111.mail.yahoo.com> Claude, I might try "dd if=/dev/ of=/dev/ bs=512 count=1". I THINK this is where the MBR "lives" but I'm making NO guarrantees. Regards, George... ===== _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ ----- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ ----- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ ----- "It's not what you know that hurts you, It's what you know that ain't so." Will Rogers __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From grgoffe at yahoo.com Fri Feb 3 08:33:45 2006 From: grgoffe at yahoo.com (George R Goffe) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 00:33:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: FC5T2 ready for even a test release? Message-ID: <20060203083345.27577.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> Howdy, As long as we're still talking about install everything. I tried selecting MANUALLY(!) all the pkgs available but did not get a successful installation. At Rahuls suggestion I installed just the base fc5t2. I then used the atilla the hun approach with installing ALL of the rpms on the cd's. I'm sure there's an easier way to do this... My point though is that it appeared that the cman and a couple of other pkgs WOULD NOT INSTALL due to missing dependencies that were NOT on the cd's. It was somewhat painfull to do and I have since lost the file with the pkg names in it. Sigh... I think this is yet another reason to have the install everything "button". Regards, George... ===== _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ ----- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ ----- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ ----- "It's not what you know that hurts you, It's what you know that ain't so." Will Rogers __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 3 08:38:20 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:08:20 +0530 Subject: FC5T2 ready for even a test release? In-Reply-To: <20060203083345.27577.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060203083345.27577.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43E3167C.7080600@fedoraproject.org> George R Goffe wrote: >Howdy, > >As long as we're still talking about install everything. I tried >selecting MANUALLY(!) all the pkgs available but did not get a >successful installation. At Rahuls suggestion I installed just the >base fc5t2. I then used the atilla the hun approach with installing >ALL of the rpms on the cd's. I'm sure there's an easier way to do >this... My point though is that it appeared that the cman and a >couple of other pkgs WOULD NOT INSTALL due to missing dependencies >that were NOT on the cd's. It was somewhat painfull to do and I have >since lost the file with the pkg names in it. Sigh... > > > This GFS related unsatisfied dependencies is clearly indicated in the end of the daily rawhide report. >I think this is yet another reason to have the install everything >"button". > > Broken package dependencies can only fixed by updating the actual packages. Everything installations are not going to resolve those. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Fri Feb 3 09:20:45 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 20:20:45 +1100 Subject: FC5T2 ready for even a test release? In-Reply-To: <200601252235.k0PMZfrR005687@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> References: <200601252235.k0PMZfrR005687@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> Message-ID: <43E3206D.1030800@bigpond.net.au> Horst von Brand wrote: >OK, so you are arguing for getting the packages off the install CDs or DVDs >when they are available there, not over the net? Sounds reasonable. AFAIU, >SUSE does exactly that. > > Not just the CD/DVD, but we need to be able to point to the iso image location on disk, or the Fedora/RPMS folder of the mounted iso image. I stopped making CD's to install fedora quite sometime ago. Ideally the storage location could be configured/stored, so that the add/remove doesn't require the user to keep entering the path details. For those trying to implement, try not to assume actual DVD/CD are available or have been created ! DaveT. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Fri Feb 3 09:34:56 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 20:34:56 +1100 Subject: Fedora Targets In-Reply-To: <43D906F1.1010606@redhat.com> References: <43D906F1.1010606@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E323C0.90202@bigpond.net.au> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > >> what i ment by this is that users are going to download single disc >> that will by no mean have everything they need > > They can still download all the CD's they want. This effort doesnt > prevent you from doing that. > >> so you think that people need to start having binaries for every distro >> im all for it man but its not going to happen any time soon there are >> to many software groups out there that only have the source releases >> to make this no dev tools desktop user world happen > > They download two CD - desktop and developer CD. > >> the whole idea would mean that for the server cd the desktop cd and >> the office cd they would all need kde and or gnome and alot of >> doubled software making downloading the full cd install even more of >> a pain for dvd burnerless people > > Thats what we need to figure out... You could put all the common software needed by multiple targets onto one/more CD's. Also, none of the CD's need to be full ! eg: the server stuff might only be half a CD, but this is cool, it saves download time/ storage space. But if you do need specific stuff from the target you did not choose, you would decide to either download the whole iso, or just individual packages. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 3 09:40:04 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:10:04 +0530 Subject: Fedora Targets In-Reply-To: <43E323C0.90202@bigpond.net.au> References: <43D906F1.1010606@redhat.com> <43E323C0.90202@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <43E324F4.7090308@fedoraproject.org> Hi > > You could put all the common software needed by multiple targets onto > one/more CD's. Also, none of the CD's need to be full ! eg: the server > stuff might only be half a CD, but this is cool, it saves download > time/ storage space. But if you do need specific stuff from the target > you did not choose, you would decide to either download the whole iso, > or just individual packages. I have given it a thought but the problem with segregating the common software is that the user needs atleast two CD's to do anything useful with the system. By adding it to every CD the user can download just one and that particular CD from the several choiecs will hopefully provide most of what they want. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From e1geo at yahoo.com Fri Feb 3 09:50:16 2006 From: e1geo at yahoo.com (George Hill) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 01:50:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: synergyc stopped working with latest update Message-ID: <20060203095016.12751.qmail@web53604.mail.yahoo.com> Just updated my FC5t2 system and had several problems. Among them: I can no longer run synergyc. Nor can I rebuild it. Before this upgrade I could build it and then run it. When I run it I get ./synergyc: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory When I try to rebuild it, configure errors out with configure: error: You must have the XTest library to build synergy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From tom-fedora at kofler.eu.org Fri Feb 3 09:57:00 2006 From: tom-fedora at kofler.eu.org (Thomas Kofler) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:57:00 +0100 Subject: FC5: GFS-kernel-xenU - where is it ? Message-ID: <1138960620.43e328ece762e@mail.devcon.cc> Hi, I tried to setup GFS within a xenU domain under FC5T2 But the package GFS-kernel-xenU is missing. Under Fedora Core 4 it was available. Why is the package no longer available ? Regards, Thomas From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Fri Feb 3 10:03:51 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:03:51 +1100 Subject: How many people have unbootable FC5T2? In-Reply-To: <1138205958.6729.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <7c79ba150601241508w252db345k863ce8a56327c8a4@mail.gmail.com> <1138205958.6729.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43E32A87.9050706@bigpond.net.au> Peter Jones wrote: >On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 23:08 +0000, Matt Carter wrote: > > >>Just a quick quiz on how many people have a install of fedora that is >>unbootable? Where does it stop? When did it stop? >> >>Only reason I am asking is I havent had mine working since early test1 >>and am nervous about the release of FC5 as it might not support my >>laptop. I have used fedora on it since FC3 and have never had any >>issues but FC5 tests seem to be causing all hell to break loose. >> >> >So, uh, can you answer your own question for us? Where does it stop for >you? > And on what type of hardware ? From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 3 10:24:44 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:54:44 +0530 Subject: FC5: GFS-kernel-xenU - where is it ? In-Reply-To: <1138960620.43e328ece762e@mail.devcon.cc> References: <1138960620.43e328ece762e@mail.devcon.cc> Message-ID: <43E32F6C.3010306@fedoraproject.org> Thomas Kofler wrote: >Hi, > >I tried to setup GFS within a xenU domain under FC5T2 > >But the package GFS-kernel-xenU is missing. Under Fedora Core 4 it was >available. > >Why is the package no longer available ? > > > It doesnt build on the newer kernels yet. Check the bottom of rawhide reports for a list of broken dependencies. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From gbofspam at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 10:21:07 2006 From: gbofspam at gmail.com (gb spam) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 05:21:07 -0500 Subject: FC5: GFS-kernel-xenU - where is it ? In-Reply-To: <1138960620.43e328ece762e@mail.devcon.cc> References: <1138960620.43e328ece762e@mail.devcon.cc> Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0602030221g176fa53pb3ed293fabbb6495@mail.gmail.com> On 2/3/06, Thomas Kofler wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to setup GFS within a xenU domain under FC5T2 > > But the package GFS-kernel-xenU is missing. Under Fedora Core 4 it was > available. they have changed names: kernel-xen-guest kernel-xen-hypervisor From kfischer at bfki.net Fri Feb 3 10:40:37 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:40:37 +0100 Subject: Gimp: cant close windows Message-ID: <1138963237.5987.5.camel@video.bfki.net> Hello, just recently I started noticing a irritating gimp-problem. Gimp starts fine, works as usual but whenever I try to close a window, it crashes. The output, when started from a terminal, is: *** glibc detected *** gimp: free(): invalid pointer: 0x0825d55a *** ======= Backtrace: ========= /lib/libc.so.6[0xb7c948] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x79)[0xb7fe4d] /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_free+0x2d)[0x202ac04] /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so[0x2d7cdb] /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0(atk_object_get_name+0x49)[0x23a957d] /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so[0x21875f] /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so[0x218859] /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so[0x21999b] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9dcee] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_by_name+0xee)[0xca074f] /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so[0x2d84a9] /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so[0x2d8211] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__OBJECT +0x5d)[0xc99a16] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x11c)[0xc8cdbd] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9df88] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xc9f6a5] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_remove+0xd3)[0x476b0f0] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x48da73b] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_object_run_dispose+0x50)[0xc8f175] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_object_destroy+0x76)[0x4810dde] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_destroy+0x41)[0x48da90d] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4732514] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_foreach+0x65)[0x476a74e] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x476afec] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID +0x43)[0xc998c8] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc8b6a5] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x200)[0xc8cea1] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9e72a] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xc9f6a5] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4810f49] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x48da75f] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_object_run_dispose+0x50)[0xc8f175] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_object_destroy+0x76)[0x4810dde] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_destroy+0x41)[0x48da90d] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x47b51a2] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_foreach+0x65)[0x476a74e] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x476afec] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID +0x43)[0xc998c8] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc8b6a5] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x200)[0xc8cea1] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9e72a] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xc9f6a5] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4810f49] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x48da75f] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_object_run_dispose+0x50)[0xc8f175] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_object_destroy+0x76)[0x4810dde] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_destroy+0x41)[0x48da90d] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4732514] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_foreach+0x65)[0x476a74e] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x476afec] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID +0x43)[0xc998c8] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc8b6a5] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x200)[0xc8cea1] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9e72a] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xc9f6a5] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4810f49] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x48da75f] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_object_run_dispose+0x50)[0xc8f175] ======= Memory map: ======== 00111000-00112000 r-xp 00111000 00:00 0 [vdso] 00112000-00206000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 781110 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 00206000-0020a000 rwxp 000f4000 fd:00 781110 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 0020a000-0020e000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 1049539 /usr/lib/libORBitCosNaming-2.so.0.1.0 0020e000-0020f000 rwxp 00004000 fd:00 1049539 /usr/lib/libORBitCosNaming-2.so.0.1.0 0020f000-00215000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 1052794 /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.17.0.6 00215000-00216000 rwxp 00005000 fd:00 1052794 /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.17.0.6 Does somebody have an idea? From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 3 10:43:48 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:13:48 +0530 Subject: FC5: GFS-kernel-xenU - where is it ? In-Reply-To: <6c3f5e6c0602030221g176fa53pb3ed293fabbb6495@mail.gmail.com> References: <1138960620.43e328ece762e@mail.devcon.cc> <6c3f5e6c0602030221g176fa53pb3ed293fabbb6495@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E333E4.3080203@fedoraproject.org> gb spam wrote: >On 2/3/06, Thomas Kofler wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>I tried to setup GFS within a xenU domain under FC5T2 >> >>But the package GFS-kernel-xenU is missing. Under Fedora Core 4 it was >>available. >> >> > >they have changed names: > > kernel-xen-guest > kernel-xen-hypervisor > > > Those are different from the GFS kernel modules. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Fri Feb 3 11:05:35 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:05:35 +1100 Subject: Base and Core group renaming ? In-Reply-To: <1138207430.30958.14.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1138192084.29913.64.camel@legolas.felicity.net.au> <1138204494.30958.6.camel@bree.local.net> <1138205706.29913.66.camel@legolas.felicity.net.au> <20060125163811.GB558488@hiwaay.net> <1138207430.30958.14.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43E338FF.6080807@bigpond.net.au> Jeremy Katz wrote: >On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 10:38 -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > > >>Once upon a time, Gawain Lynch said: >> >> >>>How about moving rootfiles to Core then? >>> >>> >>What is supposed to be the difference between Core and Base? >> >> > >Core is the absolute minimal subset. You'll get to a login prompt with >a shell and a root password. Base is a far more reasonable minimal >subset that will even let you install packages afterwards ;-) > >Jeremy > I mentioned this elsewhere, but perhaps a name change from "core" should be made to avoid confusion with "Fedora Core". My suggestion was "base operating sytem", maybe "minimal operating system", or even "minimal boot environment" :) And "base" could become "minimal installer/developer environment"... still thinking... but the idea to suggest that it isn't for normal users ;) DaveT. From netwiz at crc.id.au Fri Feb 3 11:12:21 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 22:12:21 +1100 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? Message-ID: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> Hi all, Has anyone managed to get the ATI driver working under X.Org 7.0.0 from rawhide? I downloaded 8.21.7 from ATI however it only supports up to X.Org 6.9.x. Has anyone got this working with X.Org 7.0.0? -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Fri Feb 3 11:26:54 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:26:54 +0000 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <43E33DFE.1050206@adslpipe.co.uk> Steven Haigh wrote: > anyone managed to get the ATI driver working [snip] with X.Org 7.0.0? livna are working on it http://www.leemhuis.info/files/fedorarpms/MISC.lvn/graphics/ It depends if they happen to have a kernel that matches yours, if you're bang to date, tough! If you're a couiple of days out of date you might be in luck ... From tom-fedora at kofler.eu.org Fri Feb 3 11:38:45 2006 From: tom-fedora at kofler.eu.org (Thomas Kofler) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:38:45 +0100 Subject: FC5: GFS-kernel-xenU - where is it ? In-Reply-To: <43E32F6C.3010306@fedoraproject.org> References: <1138960620.43e328ece762e@mail.devcon.cc> <43E32F6C.3010306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1138966725.43e340c5c2dba@mail.devcon.cc> Thanks for feedback, I know about the compile problems regarding the GFS kernel module for the default linux kernel. But - where are the GFS kernel modules for the now named kernel-xen-guest system ? GFS is really great for xen system, would be a not to be tolerated loss for our systems. Zitat von Rahul Sundaram : > Thomas Kofler wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I tried to setup GFS within a xenU domain under FC5T2 > > > >But the package GFS-kernel-xenU is missing. Under Fedora Core 4 it was > >available. > > > >Why is the package no longer available ? > > > > > > > It doesnt build on the newer kernels yet. Check the bottom of rawhide > reports for a list of broken dependencies. > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 3 11:42:35 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:12:35 +0530 Subject: FC5: GFS-kernel-xenU - where is it ? In-Reply-To: <1138966725.43e340c5c2dba@mail.devcon.cc> References: <1138960620.43e328ece762e@mail.devcon.cc> <43E32F6C.3010306@fedoraproject.org> <1138966725.43e340c5c2dba@mail.devcon.cc> Message-ID: <43E341AB.4040808@fedoraproject.org> Thomas Kofler wrote: >Thanks for feedback, I know about the compile problems regarding the GFS >kernel module for the default linux kernel. > >But - where are the GFS kernel modules for the now named kernel-xen-guest >system ? > > Not sure what you are asking for. If the packages are not build due to unsatified dependencies then they dont exist. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From gajownik at fedora.pl Fri Feb 3 11:49:20 2006 From: gajownik at fedora.pl (Dawid Gajownik) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:49:20 +0100 Subject: selinux X libxklavier recompilation In-Reply-To: <20060203074211.GB19288@imapc43.epfl.ch> References: <20060202075642.GA15877@imapc43.epfl.ch> <43E1CF30.6010503@fedora.pl> <20060203074211.GB19288@imapc43.epfl.ch> Message-ID: <43E34340.4070607@fedora.pl> Dnia 02/03/2006 08:44 AM, U?ytkownik Jiri Cerny napisa?: > Thank you for the explanation. I understand now more the problem. Heh, now I see that http://people.redhat.com/drepper/selinux-mem.html has been modified and this part was removed (why?): --8<--------------------------------------------------------------------- The most likely reason people see this error is because programs they use themselves or the DSOs they use have text relocations (more details here, PDF). For this legitimate case the solution is to set the security context of the DSO to system_u:object_r:texrel_shlib_t. Or even better: work with the author to remove the text relocation. --8<--------------------------------------------------------------------- My previous post does not make sens now ;-) > I tried to recompile the src.rpm without the patch I have added, that is I > recompiled the original rawhide src.rpm. The problem remained even without > the patch. On my Rawhide box everything works fine. readelf -d /usr/lib/libxklavier.so.10.0.0 | grep TEXTREL shows nothing. BTW this package needs more love (missing BR pkgconfig and libXt-devel; static libs should be IMO removed). > After some searching, I found that configure does not find -fPIC option of > gcc when run by rpmbuild. It finds this option if it is run directly from > the command line. The problem is actually that rpmbuild set environment > variable RPM_OPT_FLAGS. Value of this variable contains -mcpu switch, that > is deprecated by gcc, and warnings due to this option make the libxklavier > configure check for -fPIC fail. I changed -mcpu to -mtune on line 18 of > /usr/lib/rpmrc and everything works fine. That's strange. Can you paste the output of these commands, please? rpm -qa | grep rpm rpm --eval %{optflags} cat ~/.rpmrc I thought that `-mcpu' switch was changed in to `-mtune' in FC-3 or FC-4. In Rawhide I've got something like this: [y4kk0 at X ~]$ rpm --eval %{optflags} -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=pentium4 -fasynchronous-unwind-tables [y4kk0 at X ~]$ Regards, Dawid -- ^_* From tom-fedora at kofler.eu.org Fri Feb 3 11:56:30 2006 From: tom-fedora at kofler.eu.org (Thomas Kofler) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:56:30 +0100 Subject: FC5: GFS-kernel-xenU - where is it ? In-Reply-To: <43E341AB.4040808@fedoraproject.org> References: <1138960620.43e328ece762e@mail.devcon.cc> <43E32F6C.3010306@fedoraproject.org> <1138966725.43e340c5c2dba@mail.devcon.cc> <43E341AB.4040808@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1138967790.43e344ee59e46@mail.devcon.cc> Okay, I try to clarify: For Fedora 4 there are: GFS-6.1-0.pre22.6.i386.rpm GFS-kernel-2.6.11.8-20050601.152643.FC4.2.i586.rpm GFS-kernel-2.6.11.8-20050601.152643.FC4.2.i686.rpm GFS-kernel-smp-2.6.11.8-20050601.152643.FC4.2.i686.rpm GFS-kernel-xen0-2.6.11.8-20050601.152643.FC4.2.i686.rpm GFS-kernel-xenU-2.6.11.8-20050601.152643.FC4.2.i686.rpm that means full GFS support for the default kernel and the xen kernels. On Fedora 5 test2 there are: GFS-6.1.4-0.FC5.1.i386.rpm GFS-kernel-2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686.rpm GFS-kernel-smp-2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686.rpm But GFS for xen is missing and also not in the rawhide report. Regards, Thomas Zitat von Rahul Sundaram : > Thomas Kofler wrote: > > >Thanks for feedback, I know about the compile problems regarding the GFS > >kernel module for the default linux kernel. > > > >But - where are the GFS kernel modules for the now named kernel-xen-guest > >system ? > > > > > Not sure what you are asking for. If the packages are not build due to > unsatified dependencies then they dont exist. > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From redhat at olen.net Fri Feb 3 12:07:46 2006 From: redhat at olen.net (Ola Thoresen) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> Message-ID: 2006-02-03 Steven Haigh wrote > Hi all, > > Has anyone managed to get the ATI driver working under X.Org 7.0.0 > from rawhide? I downloaded 8.21.7 from ATI however it only supports > up to X.Org 6.9.x. > > Has anyone got this working with X.Org 7.0.0? On a related note, have anyone got either "radeon" or "ati" to work on an x86_64 lately? When I try to start X with either of these drivers the machine just freezes. The screen turns black, and no keys are working (no ctrl-alt-del, no ctrl-alt-backspace, no capslock, no numlock...) After a hard reboot I can't seem to find anything in the Xorg-logs or dmesg og /var/log/messages to shed any light on what happens. I currently use the "vesa" driver, but it refuses to give me more than 1024x768 and that looks quite ugly on an 1280x1024 LCD. The problem seems to be identical to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=162874 but that bug was closed, and as nobody else has complained my guess is that it might only affect x86_64 (or some other subset of the Radeon 9200 SE users out there) lspci -v: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Unknown device 4953:4947 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] I/O ports at a800 [size=256] Memory at ff4f0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Expansion ROM at ff4c0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [58] AGP version 3.0 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (Secondary) (rev 01) Subsystem: Unknown device 4953:4946 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64 Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at ff4e0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 uname -rv 2.6.15-1.1895_FC5 #1 SMP Wed Feb 1 22:57:53 EST 2006 rpm -q xorg-x11-drv-ati xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.7.2-1 rpm -q xorg-x11-drv-vesa xorg-x11-drv-vesa-1.0.1.2-1 Anything else I can do to debug this? Should I reopen the bug mentioned, or add a new one? Rgds. Ola Thoresen From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Fri Feb 3 12:12:08 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 23:12:08 +1100 Subject: Can FC5t2 x86_64 handle onboard VGA and Ethernet... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43E34898.2010703@bigpond.net.au> dondi_2006 wrote: >>>OK, I will try tonight. And the url / path to provide for >>>an http install would then be this, right: >>> >>>http://download.fedora.redhat.comcFedora/RPMS/ >>> >>> >>No. Read the responses to your other thread "docs on rescue CD?" >> >> >You mean that the actual path to be entered in the install form should be >/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/x86_64/, or something else? > >TIA, >D. > Yes, it expects to "see" the top level of the CD/DVD, which has the Fedora/RPMS folder. It also looks for disc1/Fedora/RPMS, incase the CD's are mounted, rather than being copied into the one directory. Depending on what you want to test/use, disc1 and disc2 may only be needed, you can: # yum groupinstall blah to expand the install once you find out whether the basics work. The cafe/library/usergroup/friend/snail method sounds like a good plan to get the full disks. From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 12:27:00 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 07:27:00 -0500 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> Message-ID: Ola Thoresen wrote: > 2006-02-03 Steven Haigh wrote >> Hi all, >> >> Has anyone managed to get the ATI driver working under X.Org 7.0.0 >> from rawhide? I downloaded 8.21.7 from ATI however it only supports >> up to X.Org 6.9.x. >> >> Has anyone got this working with X.Org 7.0.0? > > On a related note, have anyone got either "radeon" or "ati" to work on > an x86_64 lately? > Yes, I have it working on 2 machines. I assume you mean open-source driver, not ati proprietary. From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl Fri Feb 3 12:30:01 2006 From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:30:01 +0100 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <20060203123001.GC8909@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 10:12:21PM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone managed to get the ATI driver working under X.Org 7.0.0 > from rawhide? I downloaded 8.21.7 from ATI however it only supports > up to X.Org 6.9.x. > > Has anyone got this working with X.Org 7.0.0? Yes, there's an experimental livna package at: http://www.leemhuis.info/files/fedorarpms/MISC.lvn/graphics/ Please test and report back on livna mailing list or on irc. Regards, R. -- Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling Warsaw University | http://www.icm.edu.pl | tel. +48 (22) 5540810 From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Fri Feb 3 12:39:42 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:39:42 +0000 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <43E34F0E.3010100@adslpipe.co.uk> Ola Thoresen wrote: > On a related note, have anyone got either "radeon" or "ati" to work on > an x86_64 lately? yes, been great 2D-wise for me since about X11R7RC4, on an rv370 card, I have to add a ChipId to force the hand of the PCI detection. I know that doesn't help you ... but you did ask ;-) From mail-lists at karan.org Fri Feb 3 12:42:24 2006 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:42:24 +0000 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <20060203123001.GC8909@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <20060203123001.GC8909@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> Message-ID: <43E34FB0.3060303@karan.org> Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 10:12:21PM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > >>Hi all, >> >>Has anyone managed to get the ATI driver working under X.Org 7.0.0 >>from rawhide? I downloaded 8.21.7 from ATI however it only supports >>up to X.Org 6.9.x. >> >>Has anyone got this working with X.Org 7.0.0? > > > Yes, there's an experimental livna package at: > http://www.leemhuis.info/files/fedorarpms/MISC.lvn/graphics/ > > Please test and report back on livna mailing list or on irc. works fine, I can get upto 1600 fgl_glxgears going on my ferrari 4005/rawhide-2006-Feb-01 ( now, lets see where that livna mailing list is ) -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq From jiri.cerny at epfl.ch Fri Feb 3 13:01:08 2006 From: jiri.cerny at epfl.ch (Jiri Cerny) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:01:08 +0100 Subject: selinux X libxklavier recompilation In-Reply-To: <43E34340.4070607@fedora.pl> References: <20060202075642.GA15877@imapc43.epfl.ch> <43E1CF30.6010503@fedora.pl> <20060203074211.GB19288@imapc43.epfl.ch> <43E34340.4070607@fedora.pl> Message-ID: <20060203130108.GA4277@imapc43.epfl.ch> > >After some searching, I found that configure does not find -fPIC option of > >gcc when run by rpmbuild. It finds this option if it is run directly from > >the command line. The problem is actually that rpmbuild set environment > >variable RPM_OPT_FLAGS. Value of this variable contains -mcpu switch, that > >is deprecated by gcc, and warnings due to this option make the libxklavier > >configure check for -fPIC fail. I changed -mcpu to -mtune on line 18 of > >/usr/lib/rpmrc and everything works fine. > > That's strange. Can you paste the output of these commands, please? > > rpm -qa | grep rpm > rpm --eval %{optflags} > cat ~/.rpmrc $ rpm -qa| grep rpm rpm-build-4.4.2-15 rpm-libs-4.4.2-15 rpm-4.4.2-15 rpm-python-4.4.2-15 $ rpm -V rpm-build-4.4.2-15 rpm-libs-4.4.2-15 rpm-4.4.2-15 rpm-python-4.4.2-15 $ rpm --eval %{optflags} -O2 -g -march=i386 -mcpu=i686 $ cat ~/.rpmrc cat: /home/cerny/.rpmrc: nen? souborem ani adres??em > > I thought that `-mcpu' switch was changed in to `-mtune' in FC-3 or > FC-4. In Rawhide I've got something like this: -mcpu remains at least at line 18 of /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc, as I (almost) wrote in the previous email. > [y4kk0 at X ~]$ rpm --eval %{optflags} > -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions > -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 > -mtune=pentium4 -fasynchronous-unwind-tables I definitely do not get this. Regards, Jiri -- Ji?? ?ern? ?cole Polytechnique F?derale de Lausanne (EPFL) Chair of Stochastic modeling (CMOS) INR 031 - Station 14 CH-1015 Lausanne phone: ++41-21-693 7534 fax: ++41-21-693 7545 e-mail: jiri.cerny at epfl.ch From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Fri Feb 3 13:03:09 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:03:09 +0000 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <43E34FB0.3060303@karan.org> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au><20060203123001.GC8909@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> <43E34FB0.3060303@karan.org> Message-ID: <43E3548D.7040302@adslpipe.co.uk> Karanbir Singh wrote: > I can get upto 1600 fgl_glxgears Just a reminder ... glxgears is *not* a (good) benchmark! From netwiz at crc.id.au Fri Feb 3 13:17:48 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 00:17:48 +1100 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <43E34FB0.3060303@karan.org> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <20060203123001.GC8909@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> <43E34FB0.3060303@karan.org> Message-ID: <5F6B386F-1167-472E-96E8-6553F8CBA581@crc.id.au> On 03/02/2006, at 11:42 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 10:12:21PM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Has anyone managed to get the ATI driver working under X.Org >>> 7.0.0 from rawhide? I downloaded 8.21.7 from ATI however it only >>> supports up to X.Org 6.9.x. >>> >>> Has anyone got this working with X.Org 7.0.0? >> Yes, there's an experimental livna package at: >> http://www.leemhuis.info/files/fedorarpms/MISC.lvn/graphics/ >> Please test and report back on livna mailing list or on irc. > > works fine, I can get upto 1600 fgl_glxgears going on my ferrari > 4005/rawhide-2006-Feb-01 > > ( now, lets see where that livna mailing list is ) Hmmm - I can't get this going... I download the fglrx-kmod src rpm, and do a "rpmbuild --rebuild -bb fglrx-kmod...." and get back an error stating: "error: Architecture is not included: i386" I can't figure out a way to get past this. I'm running on a i686 kernel on a Pentium M CPU. -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From redhat at olen.net Fri Feb 3 13:33:29 2006 From: redhat at olen.net (Ola Thoresen) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <43E34F0E.3010100@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: 2006-02-03 Andy Burns wrote > Ola Thoresen wrote: > >> On a related note, have anyone got either "radeon" or "ati" to work on >> an x86_64 lately? > > yes, been great 2D-wise for me since about X11R7RC4, on an rv370 card, I > have to add a ChipId to force the hand of the PCI detection. > > I know that doesn't help you ... but you did ask ;-) Doesn't help me with the problem, but at least it is not a general problem with ati under x86_64. Did a bit more investigation now, and it seems like the machine itself is running (I can ssh in from another machine here), but Xorg is using 100% CPU. The console is completely dead, even if I kill -9 Xorg the screen remains blank and the keyboard does not respond at all, so a reboot is needed to recover. I'll see if I can find another solution, and maybe try to reinstall. This machine has been following rawhide/development for about a year now with nightly yum updates enabled (yeah - I like to live a risky life) so there might very well be some bits and pieces from a broken package laying around somewhere... Thanks anyway. Rgds. Ola Thoresen > > > > > From chabotc at xs4all.nl Fri Feb 3 19:34:58 2006 From: chabotc at xs4all.nl (Chris Chabot) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:34:58 -0500 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <5F6B386F-1167-472E-96E8-6553F8CBA581@crc.id.au> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <20060203123001.GC8909@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> <43E34FB0.3060303@karan.org> <5F6B386F-1167-472E-96E8-6553F8CBA581@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <1138995298.2685.0.camel@chris> > Hmmm - I can't get this going... I download the fglrx-kmod src rpm, > and do a "rpmbuild --rebuild -bb fglrx-kmod...." and get back an > error stating: > > "error: Architecture is not included: i386" rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 -bb fglrx-kmod... From mail-lists at karan.org Fri Feb 3 13:57:33 2006 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:57:33 +0000 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <43E3548D.7040302@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au><20060203123001.GC8909@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> <43E34FB0.3060303@karan.org> <43E3548D.7040302@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <43E3614D.1020704@karan.org> Andy Burns wrote: > Karanbir Singh wrote: > >> I can get upto 1600 fgl_glxgears > > > Just a reminder ... glxgears is *not* a (good) benchmark! > my point was more to endorse the fact that the rpm's linked, are good - and that it works, the fgl_glxgears wont run unless you have the fgl-fluff working. the 'other' glxgears gives me in the region of 10,000 fps on the same laptop. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq From netwiz at crc.id.au Fri Feb 3 13:59:56 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 00:59:56 +1100 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <1138995298.2685.0.camel@chris> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <20060203123001.GC8909@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> <43E34FB0.3060303@karan.org> <5F6B386F-1167-472E-96E8-6553F8CBA581@crc.id.au> <1138995298.2685.0.camel@chris> Message-ID: <145FFF17-A79E-45EE-864B-95D0B4D1A127@crc.id.au> On 04/02/2006, at 6:34 AM, Chris Chabot wrote: >> Hmmm - I can't get this going... I download the fglrx-kmod src rpm, >> and do a "rpmbuild --rebuild -bb fglrx-kmod...." and get back an >> error stating: >> >> "error: Architecture is not included: i386" > > rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 -bb fglrx-kmod... Doh! it's always something sooo simple :P Well, I have to say I'm learning a heap sticking with rawhide... tonight, I've learnt how to rebuild RPMs from source RPMs, and managed to verify that all the ACPI functions work on the Pentium M CPU on my Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop that I"m using as a test machine for all this. My next thing is to take on why ndiswrapper won't load my wifi driver - it spits an error stating that the module is in the wrong format.... -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From jiri.cerny at epfl.ch Fri Feb 3 13:59:30 2006 From: jiri.cerny at epfl.ch (Jiri Cerny) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:59:30 +0100 Subject: selinux X libxklavier recompilation In-Reply-To: <43E34340.4070607@fedora.pl> References: <20060202075642.GA15877@imapc43.epfl.ch> <43E1CF30.6010503@fedora.pl> <20060203074211.GB19288@imapc43.epfl.ch> <43E34340.4070607@fedora.pl> Message-ID: <20060203135930.GC1544@imapc43.epfl.ch> > That's strange. Can you paste the output of these commands, please? > > rpm -qa | grep rpm > rpm --eval %{optflags} > cat ~/.rpmrc > > I thought that `-mcpu' switch was changed in to `-mtune' in FC-3 or > FC-4. In Rawhide I've got something like this: > > [y4kk0 at X ~]$ rpm --eval %{optflags} > -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions > -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 > -mtune=pentium4 -fasynchronous-unwind-tables > [y4kk0 at X ~]$ I have found the problem. I should install redhat-rpm-config. Then I get the same result from rpm -eval .... Should not something, e.g rpm-devel, depend on redhat-rpm-config to avoid this problem? Regars Jiri -- Ji?? ?ern? ?cole Polytechnique F?derale de Lausanne (EPFL) Chair of Stochastic modeling (CMOS) INR 031 - Station 14 CH-1015 Lausanne phone: ++41-21-693 7534 fax: ++41-21-693 7545 e-mail: jiri.cerny at epfl.ch From chrisw01 at comcast.net Fri Feb 3 14:19:26 2006 From: chrisw01 at comcast.net (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 07:19:26 -0700 Subject: Rawhide build server not building again? Message-ID: <1138976366.18525.7.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> Anybody else noticed there were no automated rawhide builds today? Not that I'm complaining since the updates I have through yesterday seem to be working pretty well except for a couple of issues (like Evolution crashes when trying to print) that I believe are already known. Cheers, Chris -- ====================== "Never murder a man when he's busy committing suicide." -- Woodrow Wilson From gnomeuser at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 14:33:22 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:33:22 +0100 Subject: Rawhide build server not building again? In-Reply-To: <1138976366.18525.7.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> References: <1138976366.18525.7.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> Message-ID: <1138977203.2543.4.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> fre, 03 02 2006 kl. 07:19 -0700, skrev Christopher A. Williams: > Anybody else noticed there were no automated rawhide builds today? Not > that I'm complaining since the updates I have through yesterday seem to > be working pretty well except for a couple of issues (like Evolution > crashes when trying to print) that I believe are already known. Maybe it's just delayed just like yesterday. - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Fri Feb 3 14:34:36 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:34:36 +0000 Subject: Rawhide build server not building again? In-Reply-To: <1138976366.18525.7.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> References: <1138976366.18525.7.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> Message-ID: <43E369FC.7080008@adslpipe.co.uk> Christopher A. Williams wrote: > Anybody else noticed there were no automated rawhide builds today? Nothing again so far > the updates I have through yesterday seem to > be working pretty well Agree that yesterday's "vintage" was well worth waiting for, hopefully nothing major will head south before FC5T3 ... From netwiz at crc.id.au Fri Feb 3 14:47:30 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 01:47:30 +1100 Subject: Rawhide build server not building again? In-Reply-To: <43E369FC.7080008@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <1138976366.18525.7.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> <43E369FC.7080008@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: On 04/02/2006, at 1:34 AM, Andy Burns wrote: > Christopher A. Williams wrote: > >> Anybody else noticed there were no automated rawhide builds today? > > Nothing again so far > >> the updates I have through yesterday seem to >> be working pretty well > > Agree that yesterday's "vintage" was well worth waiting for, > hopefully nothing major will head south before FC5T3 ... Although most of it seems solid here from general use setting stuff up, I still get kernel Oops' on boot with the new kernels... I've submitted it to bugzilla, but it'd be great to see that fixed before anything else :) -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From clumens at redhat.com Fri Feb 3 14:57:31 2006 From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 09:57:31 -0500 Subject: FC5T2 ready for even a test release? In-Reply-To: <20060203083345.27577.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060203083345.27577.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060203145731.GA5602@exeter.boston.redhat.com> > My point though is that it appeared that the cman and a > couple of other pkgs WOULD NOT INSTALL due to missing dependencies > that were NOT on the cd's. It was somewhat painfull to do and I have > since lost the file with the pkg names in it. Sigh... Packages with failed dependancies will always be skipped. You'll see it in your anaconda.log, on tty3, and probably also in the install.log. > I think this is yet another reason to have the install everything > "button". In this particular case, that wouldn't help. - Chris From bmatteson at austin.rr.com Fri Feb 3 15:19:25 2006 From: bmatteson at austin.rr.com (Ben Matteson) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:19:25 -0600 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <43E34F0E.3010100@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <1138979965.3005.11.camel@odysseus> On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 13:33 +0000, Ola Thoresen wrote: > 2006-02-03 Andy Burns wrote > > Ola Thoresen wrote: > > > >> On a related note, have anyone got either "radeon" or "ati" to work on > >> an x86_64 lately? > > > > yes, been great 2D-wise for me since about X11R7RC4, on an rv370 card, I > > have to add a ChipId to force the hand of the PCI detection. > > > > I know that doesn't help you ... but you did ask ;-) > > Doesn't help me with the problem, but at least it is not a general > problem with ati under x86_64. > > Did a bit more investigation now, and it seems like the machine itself > is running (I can ssh in from another machine here), but Xorg is using > 100% CPU. > > The console is completely dead, even if I kill -9 Xorg the screen > remains blank and the keyboard does not respond at all, so a reboot is > needed to recover. > > I'll see if I can find another solution, and maybe try to reinstall. > This machine has been following rawhide/development for about a year > now with nightly yum updates enabled (yeah - I like to live a risky > life) so there might very well be some bits and pieces from a broken > package laying around somewhere... Hi, Might this be the problem with the newer radeon driver that FC5 uses? When I had this freezing problem, I had to comment out the DRI section of the xorg.conf file, and everything worked fine ... Ben From redhat at olen.net Fri Feb 3 15:36:29 2006 From: redhat at olen.net (Ola Thoresen) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <1138979965.3005.11.camel@odysseus> Message-ID: 2006-02-03 Ben Matteson wrote > > Hi, > > Might this be the problem with the newer radeon driver that FC5 uses? > When I had this freezing problem, I had to comment out the DRI section > of the xorg.conf file, and everything worked fine ... > You know - right now I could probably hug you - or at least buy you a couple of beers. It is friday anyway. I had previously tried to comment out only "load dri", but apparently I had to remove the whole DRI section as well. It's so good to be back with 1280x1024 again. Thanks a lot. Rgds. Ola Thoresen From dgregor at redhat.com Fri Feb 3 15:46:32 2006 From: dgregor at redhat.com (Dennis Gregorovic) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:46:32 -0500 Subject: Rawhide build server not building again? In-Reply-To: <1138977203.2543.4.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <1138976366.18525.7.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> <1138977203.2543.4.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <1138981592.16035.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 15:33 +0100, David Nielsen wrote: > fre, 03 02 2006 kl. 07:19 -0700, skrev Christopher A. Williams: > > Anybody else noticed there were no automated rawhide builds today? Not > > that I'm complaining since the updates I have through yesterday seem to > > be working pretty well except for a couple of issues (like Evolution > > crashes when trying to print) that I believe are already known. > > Maybe it's just delayed just like yesterday. > > - David Yeah. Yesterday's was delayed because I had mistakenly changed some of the config settings in the script that produces the nightly rawhide. I thought I had it fixed for today's run, but there was one I forgot. At this point, today's rawhide bits have been pushed live, and the buildsys email should be arriving in a few minutes. Sorry for the delay. -- Dennis From buildsys at redhat.com Fri Feb 3 15:49:29 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:49:29 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes Message-ID: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> New package jakarta-commons-discovery Jakarta Commons Discovery Updated Packages: GConf2-2.13.5-3 --------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Christopher Aillon 2.13.5-3 - Use the correct patch ;-) anaconda-10.91.13-1 ------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.91.13-1 - Speed up timezone screen (clumens) - Make kickstart interactive mode work (clumens) - Fix package selection screen (clumens) - Add sqlite to traceonly to help http/ftp memory usage - Write out repo config (pnasrat) - Fix colors on boot splashes (#178033) - Select lang groups before going to the screen (#178673) - Clean up handling of grub vs no boot loader (#159658) bsf-0:2.3.0-6jpp_2fc.2 ---------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:2.3.0-6jpp_2fc.2 - Bump release number. chkconfig-1.3.26-1 ------------------ * Thu Feb 02 2006 Bill Nottingham 1.3.26-1 - add support for resetting priorities without on/off status (#178864) * Wed Nov 30 2005 Bill Nottingham 1.3.25-1 - return an error if changing services fails (#150235) * Fri Nov 18 2005 Bill Nottingham 1.3.24-1 - when removing alternatives links, check to make sure they're actually links (#173685) dovecot-1.0-0.beta2.3 --------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Petr Rockai - 1.0-0.beta2.3 - change the compiled-in defaults and adjust the default's configfile commented-out example settings to match compiled-in defaults, instead of changing the defaults only in the configfile, as per #179432 - fix #179574 by providing a default uidl_format for pop3 - half-fix #179620 by having plaintext auth enabled by default... this needs more thinking (which one we really want) and documentation either way eclipse-1:3.1.2-1jpp_1fc ------------------------ * Tue Jan 31 2006 Andrew Overholt 3.1.2-1jpp_1fc - 3.1.2. - Remove unnecessary patches. * Tue Jan 31 2006 Karsten Hopp - BuildRequire: unzip flex-2.5.4a-37 -------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Petr Machata 2.5.4a-37 - adding `make bigcheck' into build process. Refreshing initscan.c to make this possible. fontconfig-2.3.93.cvs20060131-2 ------------------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.3.93.cvs20060131-2 - Accumulated patches gcc-4.1.0-0.20 -------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.20 - merge from gomp-20050808-branch (up to -r110392) - fix PR c++/25874 (Diego Novillo) glibc-2.3.90-34 --------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Jakub Jelinek 2.3.90-34 - fix with C++ and -mlong-double-64 (#179742) - add nexttowardl redirect for -mlong-double-64 * Thu Feb 02 2006 Jakub Jelinek 2.3.90-33 - update from CVS - long double support fixes * Wed Feb 01 2006 Jakub Jelinek 2.3.90-32 - update from CVS - 128-bit long double fixes for ppc{,64}, s390{,x} and sparc{,v9}, alpha 128-bit long double support - add inotify syscall numbers to the override headers (#179366) gnu-crypto-0:2.1.0-1jpp_1fc --------------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:2.1.0-1jpp_1fc - Import GNU Crypto 2.1.0. - Remove gnu-crypto-jce-jdk1.4 and gnu-crypto-sasl-jdk1.4 packages. groff-1.18.1.1-9 ---------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Miroslav Lichvar - 1.18.1.1-9 - remove gxditview from groff package (#179684) - remove obsolete "--enable-japanese" configure option gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.2-2 ------------------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Warren Togami - 0.10.2-2 - buildreq cdparanoia-devel (#179034 thias) gtk2-2.8.11-3 ------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.8.11-3 - Avoid a slowpath in XRender * Fri Jan 27 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.8.11-1 - Update to 2.8.11 * Thu Jan 19 2006 Christopher Aillon 2.8.10-4 - Use Unicode character 2022 for the default invisible character initscripts-8.25-1 ------------------ * Thu Feb 02 2006 Bill Nottingham 8.25-1 - ifup: don't run the arping check if the address is already on the device iptables-1.3.5-1 ---------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Thomas Woerner 1.3.5-1 - new version 1.3.5 - fixed init script to set policy for raw tables, too (#179094) java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_73rh ------------------------------------------ * Thu Feb 02 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_73rh - Adjust Jessie and GNU Crypto version requirements. - Uncomment ifnarch ia64 sections. * Thu Feb 02 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_71rh - Obsolete gnu-crypto-sasl-jdk1.4 and gnu-crypto-jce-jdk1.4 regardless of versions. * Thu Feb 02 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_70rh - Remove all ifnarch ia64 sections. jessie-0:1.0.1-1 ---------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.0.1-1 - Revert back to 1.0.1 sources. * Thu Feb 02 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.0.1-2 - Revert to 1.0.0 sources. * Thu Feb 02 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.0.1-1 - Import Jessie 1.0.1. - Require java-sasl instead of gnu-crypto-sasl-jdk1.4 and jce instead of gnu-crypto-jce-jdk1.4 >= 0:2.0.1-1jpp_2fc. junit-0:3.8.1-3jpp_7fc ---------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Archit Shah 0:3.8.1-3jpp_7fc - added dependencies on coreutils kde-i18n-1:3.5.1-1 ------------------ * Wed Feb 01 2006 Than Ngo 1:3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 kdelibs-6:3.5.1-2 ----------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-2 - add Obsolete: kdelibs-docs kdemultimedia-6:3.5.1-1 ----------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 kdepim-6:3.5.1-1 ---------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-1 - update to 3.5.1 - get rid of kdepim-3.5.0-kmail-113730.patch, which included in new upstream kernel-2.6.15-1.1898_FC5 ------------------------ * Thu Feb 02 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc1-git6 - enable the periodic slab debugger again. * Wed Feb 01 2006 Dave Jones - Woo, 2.6.16rc1-git5 (at last) - Enable exec* checking except for execmod for ppc32 and ia64 (#178747) - Disable a bunch of drivers for SBC's that won't run Fedora. - Reenable building of firmware for QLogic HBA's. - Add a bunch of missing newlines & the like to module init's. - Fix up broken DVB kobject use. - Fixed an oops in the stradis driver initialisation. - Happy Birthday to "The Yellow Dart". * Tue Jan 31 2006 Dave Jones < - Remove prereq on hardlink, making hardlinking of -devel packages optional - Further improvements to the 'dont want to hardlink' case. Now checks for HARDLINK="no" in /etc/sysconfig/kernel kexec-tools-1.101-7.1 --------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Thomas Graf - 1.101-7.1 - Add patch to enable the kdump binary for x86_64 * Wed Feb 01 2006 Thomas Graf - New kdump patch to support s390 arch + various fixes - Include kdump in x86_64 builds libsemanage-1.5.20-1 -------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Dan Walsh 1.5.20-1 - Upgrade to latest from NSA * Merged clone record on set_con patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. libsepol-1.11.12-1 ------------------ * Thu Feb 02 2006 Dan Walsh 1.11.12-1 - Upgrade to latest from NSA * Merged assertion copying bugfix from Joshua Brindle. * Merged sepol_av_to_string patch from Joshua Brindle. * Merged clone record on set_con patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. m17n-lib-1.3.1-1 ---------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Jens Petersen - 1.3.1-1 - update to 1.3.1 release - rename use_otf and use_anthy macros to with_gui and with_examples - build --with-gui=no and replace m17n-lib-1.2.0-core-libs-only.patch with m17n-lib-no-gui-headers.patch and m17n-lib-nobuild-examples.patch make-1:3.80-10 -------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Petr Machata 3.80-10 - H.J. Lu caught a typo in the patch and provided a new one. (#175376) man-1.6c-1 ---------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Florian La Roche - 1.6c * Tue Dec 13 2005 Ivana Varekova 1.6b-2 - makewhatis change - add info about packages (bug 175595) * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt net-snmp-5.3-4 -------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Radek Vok??l 5.3-4 - fix crash on s390x and ppc64 nmap-2:4.00-1 ------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Harald Hoyer - 2:4.00-1 - version 4.00 openmotif-2.3.0-0.1.9 --------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Thomas Woerner 2.3.0-0.1.9 - new CVS version 2006-02-02 - fixed CVE-2005-3964: libUil buffer overflows (#174814) - fixed XmList out of bound accesses (#167701) - fixed pasting into TextField (#179549) policycoreutils-1.29.18-1 ------------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Dan Walsh 1.29.18-1 - Update from upstream * Merged clone record on set_con patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. system-config-nfs-1.3.18-1 -------------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Nils Philippsen 1.3.18 - don't complain when trying to edit a share (#179687) - handle wildcards in warning messages for duplicates * Wed Feb 01 2006 Nils Philippsen 1.3.17 - reset properties dialog before being shown for the first time system-config-samba-1.2.32-1 ---------------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Nils Philippsen - 1.2.32 - bump version * Thu Dec 22 2005 Nils Philippsen - add sr at Latn.po to enable Serbian Latin translation * Fri Oct 14 2005 Nils Philippsen - don't use pam_stack (#170642) systemtap-0.5.4-2 ----------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Frank Eigler - 0.5.4-2 - Rebuilt for devel * Wed Feb 01 2006 Frank Ch. Eigler - 0.5.4-1 - PRs 1916, 2205, 2142, 2060, 1379 * Mon Jan 16 2006 Roland McGrath - 0.5.3-1 - Many changes, affected PRs include: 2056, 1144, 1379, 2057, 2060, 1972, 2140, 2148 tcl-8.4.12-3 ------------ * Thu Feb 02 2006 David Cantrell - 8.4.12-3 - Patched syntax errors in configure and tcl.m4 so it works with bash * Thu Feb 02 2006 David Cantrell - 8.4.12-2 - Don't use ksh on ia64 * Thu Feb 02 2006 David Cantrell - 8.4.12-1 - Upgraded to tcl-8.4.12 - Use ksh rather than bash for the configure script (known bug w/ bash-3.1) - Generate HTML docs from source - Add in the Tk source for HTML doc generation tk-8.4.12-1 ----------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 David Cantrell - 8.4.12-1 - Upgraded to tk-8.4.12 tzdata-2006a-1 -------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Petr Machata 2006a-1 - Upstream 2006a: - private.h(scheck): changing char* to char const* - Rule changes for Palestine, zone changes for Indiana/US, both changes for Canada. - Many related doc changes. - Naming scheme in spec file doesn't use %{name}, but tzdata. xen-3.0-0.20060130.fc5.3 ------------------------ * Thu Feb 02 2006 Bill Nottingham 3.0-0.20060130.fc5.3 - disable iptables/ip6tables/arptables on bridging when bringing up a Xen bridge. If complicated filtering is needed that uses this, custom firewalls will be needed. (#177794) * Tue Jan 31 2006 Bill Nottingham 3.0-0.20060130.fc5.2 - use the default network device, don't hardcode eth0 * Tue Jan 31 2006 - 3.0-0.20060130.fc5.1 - Add xenguest-install.py in /usr/sbin xerces-j2-0:2.6.2-6jpp_3fc -------------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Archit Shah 0:2.6.2-6jpp_3fc - build xerces without using native code * Mon Jan 09 2006 Archit Shah 0:2.6.2-6jpp_2fc - rebuilt for new gcj xorg-x11-drv-acecad-1.0.0.5-1 ----------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-acecad to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-aiptek-1.0.0.5-1 ----------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-aiptek to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-apm-1.0.1.5-1 -------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-apm to version 1.0.1.5 from X11R7.0 - Added apm.xinf videoalias file. xorg-x11-drv-ark-0.5.0.5-1 -------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 0.5.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-ark to version 0.5.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.7.3-1 -------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 6.5.7.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-ati to version 6.5.7.3 from X11R7.0 - Added ati.xinf videoalias file for hardware autodetection. xorg-x11-drv-calcomp-1.0.0.5-1 ------------------------------ * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-calcomp to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-chips-1.0.1.3-1 ---------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-chips to version 1.0.1.3 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-cirrus-1.0.0.5-1 ----------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-cirrus to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-citron-2.1.1.5-1 ----------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 2.1.1.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-citron to version 2.1.1.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-cyrix-1.0.0.5-1 ---------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-cyrix to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-digitaledge-1.0.1.3-1 ---------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-digitaledge to version 1.0.1.3 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-dmc-1.0.0.5-1 -------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-dmc to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-dynapro-1.0.0.5-1 ------------------------------ * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-dynapro to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-elo2300-1.0.0.5-1 ------------------------------ * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-elo2300 to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-elographics-1.0.0.5-1 ---------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-elographics to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-evdev-1.0.0.5-1 ---------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-evdev to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-0.1.0.5-1 ---------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 0.1.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-fbdev to version 0.1.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-fpit-1.0.0.5-1 --------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-fpit to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-hyperpen-1.0.0.5-1 ------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-hyperpen to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-i128-1.1.0.5-1 --------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.1.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-i128 to version 1.1.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-jamstudio-1.0.0.5-1 -------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-jamstudio to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-joystick-1.0.0.5-1 ------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-joystick to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.0.1.3-1 ------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-keyboard to version 1.0.1.3 from X11R7.0 - Added alpha/sparc/sparc64 to ExclusiveArch list (#176590) xorg-x11-drv-magellan-1.0.0.5-1 ------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-magellan to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-magictouch-1.0.0.5-1 --------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-magictouch to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-microtouch-1.0.0.5-1 --------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-microtouch to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-mouse-1.0.3.1-1 ---------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.3.1-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-mouse to version 1.0.3.1 from X11R7.0 - Rename temporary name of mouse manpage, to close (#178744) xorg-x11-drv-mutouch-1.0.0.5-1 ------------------------------ * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-mutouch to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-palmax-1.0.0.5-1 ----------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-palmax to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-penmount-1.0.0.5-1 ------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-penmount to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 - Removed 'x' suffix from manpage dirs to match RC4 upstream. xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion-1.3.1.5-1 ------------------------------------ * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.3.1.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion to version 1.3.1.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-sisusb-0.7.1.3-1 ----------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 0.7.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-sisusb to version 0.7.1.3 from X11R7.0 - Removed 'x' suffix from manpage dirs to match RC4 upstream. xorg-x11-drv-spaceorb-1.0.0.5-1 ------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-spaceorb to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-summa-1.0.0.5-1 ---------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-summa to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-ur98-1.0.0.5-1 --------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-ur98 to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-void-1.0.0.5-1 --------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-void to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- gnome-volume-manager - 1.5.11-1.ia64 requires kernel >= 0:2.6 iscsi-initiator-utils - 5.0.5.476-0.ia64 requires kernel pcmciautils - 011-1.ia64 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.12-1.1411_FC5 rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs systemtap - 0.5.4-2.ia64 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- ccs-devel - 1.0.2-3.1.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.2-3.1 gulm - 1.0.4-2.FC5.1.ppc requires ccs Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjava-2.8.so()(64bit) libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjni-2.8.so()(64bit) systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390x requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 From bmatteson at austin.rr.com Fri Feb 3 16:02:20 2006 From: bmatteson at austin.rr.com (Ben Matteson) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:02:20 -0600 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <1138979965.3005.11.camel@odysseus> Message-ID: <1138982540.3005.17.camel@odysseus> On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 15:36 +0000, Ola Thoresen wrote: > 2006-02-03 Ben Matteson wrote > You know - right now I could probably hug you - or at least buy you a > couple of beers. It is friday anyway. > > I had previously tried to comment out only "load dri", but apparently I > had to remove the whole DRI section as well. > > It's so good to be back with 1280x1024 again. > Ola, Ah, glad to help. I know how you feel. When I had this problem, was out of my mind trying to fix, and it took me sooooo long to figure out. Glad I could save you the trouble. And I'd be happy to put back a few with you; I could use a few today. Cheers, Ben From selinux at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 16:17:46 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:17:46 -0800 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes In-Reply-To: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602030817t70b8a24fi92e172e4f45d4cd3@mail.gmail.com> Get this on 'yum install': Updating : glibc ##################### [ 4/184] Stopping sshd: [ OK ] touch: setting times of `/var/lock/subsys/sshd': Bad address Updating : chkconfig ##################### [ 5/184] Updating : libstdc++ ##################### [ 6/184] Updating : tcl ##################### [ 7/184] Updating : fontconfig ##################### [ 8/184] touch: setting times of `/var/cache/fontconfig/stamp': Bad address Updating : gtk2 ##################### [ 9/184] From selinux at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 16:38:43 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:38:43 -0800 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602030817t70b8a24fi92e172e4f45d4cd3@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <4c4ba1530602030817t70b8a24fi92e172e4f45d4cd3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602030838l6aa35be3x7c0600188b9b8ddd@mail.gmail.com> Update seems to break touch: [tbl at localhost Devel]$ strace /bin/touch dbus.list execve("/bin/touch", ["/bin/touch", "dbus.list"], [/* 34 vars */]) = 0 brk(0) = 0x9930000 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f21000 access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=54346, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 54346, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb7f13000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/librt.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\260\34"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=37956, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 29260, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x63c000 mmap2(0x642000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x5) = 0x642000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\252X\1"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1493272, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 1213820, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x111000 mmap2(0x233000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x122) = 0x233000 mmap2(0x237000, 9596, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x237000 close(3) = 0 open("/lib/libpthread.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\34I\0\000"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=100900, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 70076, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x5fe000 mmap2(0x60c000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xd) = 0x60c000 mmap2(0x60e000, 4540, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x60e000 close(3) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f12000 set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 -> 6, base_addr:0xb7f12aa0, limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0 mprotect(0x60c000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0x233000, 12288, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0x642000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0x2a5000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 munmap(0xb7f13000, 54346) = 0 set_tid_address(0xb7f12ae8) = 17511 rt_sigaction(SIGRTMIN, {0x602536, [], SA_SIGINFO}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGRT_1, {0x602470, [], SA_RESTART|SA_SIGINFO}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [RTMIN RT_1], NULL, 8) = 0 getrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, {rlim_cur=10240*1024, rlim_max=RLIM_INFINITY}) = 0 _sysctl({{CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION}, 2, 0xbff20a80, 30, (nil), 0}) = 0 brk(0) = 0x9930000 brk(0x9951000) = 0x9951000 open("/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=54082992, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 2097152, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb7d12000 close(3) = 0 close(0) = 0 open("dbus.list", O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_CREAT|O_NOCTTY|O_LARGEFILE, 0666) = 0 SYS_299(0, 0, 0, 0, 0x235ff4) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) close(0) = 0 open("/usr/share/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY) = 0 fstat64(0, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2528, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f20000 read(0, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 4096) = 2528 read(0, "", 4096) = 0 close(0) = 0 munmap(0xb7f20000, 4096) = 0 open("/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) write(2, "/bin/touch: ", 12/bin/touch: ) = 12 write(2, "setting times of `dbus.list\'", 28setting times of `dbus.list') = 28 open("/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) write(2, ": Bad address", 13: Bad address) = 13 write(2, "\n", 1 ) = 1 close(1) = 0 exit_group(1) = ? Process 17511 detached [tbl at localhost Devel]$ From davej at redhat.com Fri Feb 3 16:40:30 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:40:30 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602030838l6aa35be3x7c0600188b9b8ddd@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <4c4ba1530602030817t70b8a24fi92e172e4f45d4cd3@mail.gmail.com> <4c4ba1530602030838l6aa35be3x7c0600188b9b8ddd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060203164030.GG24201@redhat.com> On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 08:38:43AM -0800, Tom London wrote: > Update seems to break touch: The kernel implemented a new syscall which glibc started using. Some apps were passing values it wasn't quite prepared for. Jakub fixed the problem, so hopefully the next glibc update should fix it. Dave From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 16:45:34 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:45:34 -0500 Subject: GRUB not written to MBR - rewrite problem In-Reply-To: <20060203081305.69404.qmail@web53111.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060203081305.69404.qmail@web53111.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602030845n50661753lc0a22836c30d83cc@mail.gmail.com> On 2/3/06, George R Goffe wrote: > Claude, > > I might try "dd if=/dev/ of=/dev/ > bs=512 count=1". I THINK this is where the MBR "lives" but I'm > making NO guarrantees. Well, so long as the partitions of the new drive are *exactly* like the old drive. -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From nphilipp at redhat.com Fri Feb 3 17:14:07 2006 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:14:07 +0100 Subject: Gimp: cant close windows In-Reply-To: <1138963237.5987.5.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <1138963237.5987.5.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <1138986848.29162.77.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> Hi Karsten, On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 11:40 +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > Hello, > > just recently I started noticing a irritating gimp-problem. Gimp starts > fine, works as usual but whenever I try to close a window, it crashes. > The output, when started from a terminal, is: > > *** glibc detected *** gimp: free(): invalid pointer: 0x0825d55a *** this happens so deep inside gtk that I personally doubt that it's a problem in the GIMP. But as its package maintainer, I'm a bit biased ;-). You might open a bugzilla ticket though. Nils > ======= Backtrace: ========= > /lib/libc.so.6[0xb7c948] > /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x79)[0xb7fe4d] > /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_free+0x2d)[0x202ac04] > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so[0x2d7cdb] > /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0(atk_object_get_name+0x49)[0x23a957d] > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so[0x21875f] > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so[0x218859] > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so[0x21999b] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9dcee] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_by_name+0xee)[0xca074f] > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so[0x2d84a9] > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so[0x2d8211] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__OBJECT > +0x5d)[0xc99a16] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x11c)[0xc8cdbd] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9df88] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xc9f6a5] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_remove+0xd3)[0x476b0f0] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x48da73b] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_object_run_dispose+0x50)[0xc8f175] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_object_destroy+0x76)[0x4810dde] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_destroy+0x41)[0x48da90d] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4732514] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_foreach+0x65)[0x476a74e] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x476afec] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID > +0x43)[0xc998c8] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc8b6a5] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x200)[0xc8cea1] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9e72a] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xc9f6a5] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4810f49] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x48da75f] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_object_run_dispose+0x50)[0xc8f175] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_object_destroy+0x76)[0x4810dde] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_destroy+0x41)[0x48da90d] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x47b51a2] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_foreach+0x65)[0x476a74e] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x476afec] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID > +0x43)[0xc998c8] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc8b6a5] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x200)[0xc8cea1] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9e72a] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xc9f6a5] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4810f49] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x48da75f] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_object_run_dispose+0x50)[0xc8f175] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_object_destroy+0x76)[0x4810dde] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_destroy+0x41)[0x48da90d] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4732514] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_foreach+0x65)[0x476a74e] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x476afec] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID > +0x43)[0xc998c8] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc8b6a5] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x200)[0xc8cea1] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9e72a] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xc9f6a5] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4810f49] > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x48da75f] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_object_run_dispose+0x50)[0xc8f175] > ======= Memory map: ======== > 00111000-00112000 r-xp 00111000 00:00 0 [vdso] > 00112000-00206000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 > 781110 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 > 00206000-0020a000 rwxp 000f4000 fd:00 > 781110 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 > 0020a000-0020e000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 > 1049539 /usr/lib/libORBitCosNaming-2.so.0.1.0 > 0020e000-0020f000 rwxp 00004000 fd:00 > 1049539 /usr/lib/libORBitCosNaming-2.so.0.1.0 > 0020f000-00215000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 > 1052794 /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.17.0.6 > 00215000-00216000 rwxp 00005000 fd:00 > 1052794 /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.17.0.6 > > Does somebody have an idea? > -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 From don_springall at hotmail.com Fri Feb 3 17:36:04 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:36:04 -0700 Subject: Mono IDE Message-ID: I have found beagle and f-spot in the menu's but I do not see any IDE for C# in the programming menu. Is that still a work in progress ? From jkeating at j2solutions.net Fri Feb 3 17:49:22 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:49:22 -0800 Subject: Mono IDE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1138988962.2863.24.camel@yoda.loki.me> On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 10:36 -0700, Don Springall wrote: > I have found beagle and f-spot in the menu's but I do not see any IDE for > C# in the programming menu. Is that still a work in progress ? 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I think maintainers do not have to use the testing repository before pushing Core updates. But shouldn't it be mandatory for such package groups like KDE? Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG http://pgp.mit.edu 0xB366A773 legal statement: http://www.uni-x.org/legal.html Fedora Core 2 GNU/Linux on Athlon with kernel 2.6.11-1.35_FC2smp Serendipity 18:41:01 up 60 days, 23:18, load average: 0.41, 0.37, 0.21 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 17:51:17 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:51:17 -0500 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> Message-ID: Neal Becker wrote: > Ola Thoresen wrote: > >> 2006-02-03 Steven Haigh wrote >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Has anyone managed to get the ATI driver working under X.Org 7.0.0 >>> from rawhide? I downloaded 8.21.7 from ATI however it only supports >>> up to X.Org 6.9.x. >>> >>> Has anyone got this working with X.Org 7.0.0? >> >> On a related note, have anyone got either "radeon" or "ati" to work on >> an x86_64 lately? >> > Yes, I have it working on 2 machines. I assume you mean open-source > driver, not ati proprietary. > Speaking of which, what do I do to get kernel drm going? I see: sbin/lsmod | grep radeon radeon 152096 0 drm 133544 1 radeon But in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) RADEON(0): Enabling DRM support *** Direct rendering support is highly experimental for Radeon 9500 *** and newer cards. The 3d mesa driver is not provided in this tree. *** A very experimental (and incomplete) version is available from Mesa CVS. *** Additional information can be found on http://r300.sourceforge.net *** This message has been last modified on 2005-08-07. drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) [...] (II) RADEON(0): [drm] drmOpen failed (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. From michael.favia at insitesinc.com Fri Feb 3 18:39:33 2006 From: michael.favia at insitesinc.com (Michael Favia) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:39:33 -0600 Subject: Mono IDE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43E3A365.2070802@insitesinc.com> Don Springall wrote: > I have found beagle and f-spot in the menu's but I do not see any IDE > for C# in the programming menu. Is that still a work in progress ? Eclipse? http://www.gotmono.com/docs/ide/eclipse.html -- Michael Favia michael.favia at insitesinc.com Insites Incorporated http://michael.insitesinc.com From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Fri Feb 3 19:00:04 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:00:04 +0000 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <43E3A834.9090406@adslpipe.co.uk> Neal Becker wrote: > Speaking of which, what do I do to get kernel drm going? I see: > sbin/lsmod | grep radeon > radeon 152096 0 > drm 133544 1 radeon > > But in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: > (WW) RADEON(0): Enabling DRM support > > *** Direct rendering support is highly experimental for Radeon 9500 > *** and newer cards. The 3d mesa driver is not provided in this tree. > *** A very experimental (and incomplete) version is available from Mesa CVS. > *** Additional information can be found on http://r300.sourceforge.net > *** This message has been last modified on 2005-08-07. > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) > drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) > [...] > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] drmOpen failed > (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. I get the same, and subesquently everything from xscreensavers-gl-extras to ksysinfo thet even things about GLX gets an error, I'm beginning to wonder if we don't get any software Mesa fallback for openGL now? It'd be nice to hear otherwise, I'm sticking with xorg drivers for now instead of fglrx ones ... From gajownik at fedora.pl Fri Feb 3 19:17:24 2006 From: gajownik at fedora.pl (Dawid Gajownik) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 20:17:24 +0100 Subject: selinux X libxklavier recompilation In-Reply-To: <20060203135930.GC1544@imapc43.epfl.ch> References: <20060202075642.GA15877@imapc43.epfl.ch> <43E1CF30.6010503@fedora.pl> <20060203074211.GB19288@imapc43.epfl.ch> <43E34340.4070607@fedora.pl> <20060203135930.GC1544@imapc43.epfl.ch> Message-ID: <43E3AC44.1050307@fedora.pl> Dnia 02/03/2006 03:01 PM, U?ytkownik Jiri Cerny napisa?: > I have found the problem. :D > Should not something, e.g rpm-devel, depend on redhat-rpm-config to avoid > this problem? rpm-devel is rarely used. I would rather sugest rpm-build instead (of course, I may be wrong ;-) ). Someone more knowledgeable should answer your question. -- ^_* From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 19:18:41 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:18:41 -0500 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <43E3A834.9090406@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: Andy Burns wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: > >> Speaking of which, what do I do to get kernel drm going? I see: >> sbin/lsmod | grep radeon >> radeon 152096 0 >> drm 133544 1 radeon >> >> But in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: >> (WW) RADEON(0): Enabling DRM support >> >> *** Direct rendering support is highly experimental for Radeon >> 9500 *** and newer cards. The 3d mesa driver is not provided in >> this tree. *** A very experimental (and incomplete) version is >> available from Mesa CVS. *** Additional information can be found >> on http://r300.sourceforge.net *** This message has been last >> modified on 2005-08-07. >> >> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 >> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) >> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) >> [...] >> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] drmOpen failed >> (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. > > I get the same, and subesquently everything from xscreensavers-gl-extras > to ksysinfo thet even things about GLX gets an error, I'm beginning to > wonder if we don't get any software Mesa fallback for openGL now? > > It'd be nice to hear otherwise, I'm sticking with xorg drivers for now > instead of fglrx ones ... > I AM using xorg drivers. From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Fri Feb 3 20:05:14 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 20:05:14 +0000 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <43E3A834.9090406@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <43E3B77A.2020603@adslpipe.co.uk> Neal Becker wrote: > I AM using xorg drivers. I _know_ you are :-P From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 20:11:22 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:11:22 -0500 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <43E3A834.9090406@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E3B77A.2020603@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: Andy Burns wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: > >> I AM using xorg drivers. > > I _know_ you are :-P > Sorry, I misunderstood something. Do I understand correctly that: 1) There are radeon and drm modules, and they load OK 2) The xorg driver will try to open /dev/dri/cardxxx 3) #2 fails, because there are no /dev/dri/ 4) All the above is expected behavior From rowan at stasis.org Fri Feb 3 20:54:01 2006 From: rowan at stasis.org (Rowan Kerr) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:54:01 -0500 Subject: Evolution + dbus-daemon thrashing Message-ID: <43E3C2E9.50802@stasis.org> Running fc5t2 updated to yesterday's rawhide (I'm assuming) by using pup... When I start evolution, it takes about 40% cpu and sends dbus-daemon up to the other %60 cpu, and my harddrive starts thrashing away doing *something*. I have only setup a local mbox email account. And Evolution doesn't seem to be otherwise affected by this cpu and harddrive-eating, but it is quite unpleasant. Has anyone else notice this? -Rowan From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Feb 3 20:56:35 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 20:56:35 +0000 Subject: Mono IDE In-Reply-To: <43E3A365.2070802@insitesinc.com> References: <43E3A365.2070802@insitesinc.com> Message-ID: <1139000195.24791.19.camel@T7.Linux> On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 12:39 -0600, Michael Favia wrote: > Don Springall wrote: > > I have found beagle and f-spot in the menu's but I do not see any IDE > > for C# in the programming menu. Is that still a work in progress ? > > Eclipse? > http://www.gotmono.com/docs/ide/eclipse.html The C# mode of eclipse sucks big time IMHO. That said, if someone fancied reviewing and approving bugs 178900 - 178904 then you could have monodevelop which really is a damned good IDE for C#. TTFN Paul -- "wir kamen, wir sahen, wir traten ihren Esel" - Dr Venkman, Ghostbusters From michal at harddata.com Fri Feb 3 21:04:26 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:04:26 -0700 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <20060203210426.GA21227@mail.harddata.com> On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 12:07:46PM +0000, Ola Thoresen wrote: > > On a related note, have anyone got either "radeon" or "ati" to work on > an x86_64 lately? > > When I try to start X with either of these drivers the machine just > freezes. The screen turns black, and no keys are working (no > ctrl-alt-del, no ctrl-alt-backspace, no capslock, no numlock...) I am getting that with "radeon" unless I will disable DRI in xorg.conf by commenting out 'Load "dri"' line. I found via Google a suggestion to set explicitely AGP speed. Unfortunately this does not help regardless of a value. Check: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=173439 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5133 > The problem seems to be identical to > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=162874 but that bug > was closed, I guess that you can reopen that with new information but see above. The problem seems to be that I see in logs "DRI support is highly experimental..." and references to various bits and pieces in that CVS or some other one. Michal From lmacken at redhat.com Fri Feb 3 21:25:14 2006 From: lmacken at redhat.com (Luke Macken) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 16:25:14 -0500 Subject: synergyc stopped working with latest update In-Reply-To: <20060203095016.12751.qmail@web53604.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060203095016.12751.qmail@web53604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060203212514.GA19592@tomservo.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 01:50:16AM -0800, George Hill wrote: > Just updated my FC5t2 system and had several problems. > Among them: I can no longer run synergyc. Nor can I > rebuild it. Before this upgrade I could build it and > then run it. > > When I run it I get > > ./synergyc: error while loading shared libraries: > libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No > such file or directory > > When I try to rebuild it, configure errors out with > > configure: error: You must have the XTest library to > build synergy synergy-1.2.7-1.fc5 WFM. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora%20Extras Assuming you're using synergy from Extras, please file a bug against the synergy component. luke From kfischer at bfki.net Fri Feb 3 21:32:01 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:32:01 +0100 Subject: Gimp: cant close windows In-Reply-To: <1138986848.29162.77.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> References: <1138963237.5987.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <1138986848.29162.77.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139002321.2873.8.camel@video.bfki.net> Well, actually I don't think that it is a problem within gimp as well :) But then: I do have another reason for that opinion since gimp worked flawlessly just until I got one of the updates, around last week of January; shame on me for not noticing it at once. It worked definitely at/before the 26th... I will file a bug first thing tomorrow morning. Depends on the time it takes then. Am Freitag, den 03.02.2006, 18:14 +0100 schrieb Nils Philippsen: > Hi Karsten, > > On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 11:40 +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > > Hello, > > > > just recently I started noticing a irritating gimp-problem. Gimp starts > > fine, works as usual but whenever I try to close a window, it crashes. > > The output, when started from a terminal, is: > > > > *** glibc detected *** gimp: free(): invalid pointer: 0x0825d55a *** > > this happens so deep inside gtk that I personally doubt that it's a > problem in the GIMP. But as its package maintainer, I'm a bit > biased ;-). You might open a bugzilla ticket though. > > Nils > > > ======= Backtrace: ========= > > /lib/libc.so.6[0xb7c948] > > /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x79)[0xb7fe4d] > > /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_free+0x2d)[0x202ac04] > > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so[0x2d7cdb] > > /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0(atk_object_get_name+0x49)[0x23a957d] > > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so[0x21875f] > > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so[0x218859] > > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so[0x21999b] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9dcee] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_by_name+0xee)[0xca074f] > > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so[0x2d84a9] > > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so[0x2d8211] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__OBJECT > > +0x5d)[0xc99a16] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x11c)[0xc8cdbd] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9df88] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xc9f6a5] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_remove+0xd3)[0x476b0f0] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x48da73b] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_object_run_dispose+0x50)[0xc8f175] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_object_destroy+0x76)[0x4810dde] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_destroy+0x41)[0x48da90d] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4732514] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_foreach+0x65)[0x476a74e] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x476afec] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID > > +0x43)[0xc998c8] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc8b6a5] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x200)[0xc8cea1] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9e72a] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xc9f6a5] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4810f49] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x48da75f] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_object_run_dispose+0x50)[0xc8f175] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_object_destroy+0x76)[0x4810dde] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_destroy+0x41)[0x48da90d] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x47b51a2] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_foreach+0x65)[0x476a74e] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x476afec] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID > > +0x43)[0xc998c8] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc8b6a5] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x200)[0xc8cea1] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9e72a] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xc9f6a5] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4810f49] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x48da75f] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_object_run_dispose+0x50)[0xc8f175] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_object_destroy+0x76)[0x4810dde] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_destroy+0x41)[0x48da90d] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4732514] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_foreach+0x65)[0x476a74e] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x476afec] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID > > +0x43)[0xc998c8] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc8b6a5] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x200)[0xc8cea1] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xc9e72a] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x820)[0xc9f402] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xc9f6a5] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x4810f49] > > /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0[0x48da75f] > > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_object_run_dispose+0x50)[0xc8f175] > > ======= Memory map: ======== > > 00111000-00112000 r-xp 00111000 00:00 0 [vdso] > > 00112000-00206000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 > > 781110 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 > > 00206000-0020a000 rwxp 000f4000 fd:00 > > 781110 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 > > 0020a000-0020e000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 > > 1049539 /usr/lib/libORBitCosNaming-2.so.0.1.0 > > 0020e000-0020f000 rwxp 00004000 fd:00 > > 1049539 /usr/lib/libORBitCosNaming-2.so.0.1.0 > > 0020f000-00215000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 > > 1052794 /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.17.0.6 > > 00215000-00216000 rwxp 00005000 fd:00 > > 1052794 /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.17.0.6 > > > > Does somebody have an idea? > > > -- > Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 > PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 > From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Fri Feb 3 21:35:13 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:35:13 +0000 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au><43E3A834.9090406@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E3B77A.2020603@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <43E3CC91.5030204@adslpipe.co.uk> Neal Becker wrote: > 1) There are radeon and drm modules, and they load OK > 2) The xorg driver will try to open /dev/dri/cardxxx > 3) #2 fails, because there are no /dev/dri/ > 4) All the above is expected behavior I don't know if it's expected or not, but it's the same here ... From orion at cora.nwra.com Fri Feb 3 21:47:39 2006 From: orion at cora.nwra.com (Orion Poplawski) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:47:39 -0700 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: Alexander Dalloz wrote: > Hi fellows, > > I like to ask about the process of KDE updates. We are actually seeing > KDE 3.5.1-0.1.fc4 updates hitting the server. As far as I see these FC4 > updates never appeared in the updates-testing repository. This was also > the case with previous KDE updates - last KDE update from 17th December > brought us then a following kdelibs update on 22th Dec., fixing an issue > from the kdelibs update of 17th. > > I think maintainers do not have to use the testing repository before > pushing Core updates. But shouldn't it be mandatory for such package > groups like KDE? > > Alexander I have to say that I'm starting to get frustrated with this as well. I used to complain that there were no KDE updates within a release, but now that it happens, I generally wish it wouldn't. It has caused a number of problems at our site which I would like to see restricted to a full OS upgrade. In this case, a sub-minor version release, it probably is worth doing (with a period in updates-testing), I would hold off on others. With Fedora's accelerated release schedule (FC5 slippage notwithstanding) holding off larger KDE updates during a release should be a reasonable policy. - Orion From katzj at redhat.com Fri Feb 3 22:39:47 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip Message-ID: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> Although I hate to do it, it looks like we're going to have to slip Fedora Core 5 test3 by a week. There is an ABI change in the gcc/glibc stack that requires a rebuild of the entire distribution. Given that, there is no way that we'll be able to make a freeze date of Monday. So, test3 will now freeze on Monday, 13 February with a release date of Monday, 20 February. We'll adjust the final schedule sometime next week based on the progress of the rebuilding efforts. Thanks, Jeremy From m_epling at comcast.net Fri Feb 3 22:41:41 2006 From: m_epling at comcast.net (m_epling) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:41:41 -0600 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1139006502.17720.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> not a problem were on quality here glad to see it done right On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 17:39 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > Although I hate to do it, it looks like we're going to have to slip > Fedora Core 5 test3 by a week. There is an ABI change in the gcc/glibc > stack that requires a rebuild of the entire distribution. Given that, > there is no way that we'll be able to make a freeze date of Monday. So, > test3 will now freeze on Monday, 13 February with a release date of > Monday, 20 February. > > We'll adjust the final schedule sometime next week based on the progress > of the rebuilding efforts. > > Thanks, > > Jeremy > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gajownik at fedora.pl Fri Feb 3 23:20:14 2006 From: gajownik at fedora.pl (Dawid Gajownik) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:20:14 +0100 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <43E3E52E.5040507@fedora.pl> Dnia 02/03/2006 10:49 PM, U?ytkownik Orion Poplawski napisa?: > I have to say that I'm starting to get frustrated with this as well. Me too ;) I've just updated KDE to 3.5.1 and now user interface is in English (was in Polish). I downgraded kde-i18n-Polish to 3.5.0-0.1.fc4 but it did not help. http://img434.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kde1sw.gif ;) -- ^_* From ch at code-heads.com Fri Feb 3 23:41:41 2006 From: ch at code-heads.com (CodeHeads) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:41:41 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1139010101.5822.0.camel@FC5> On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 17:39 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > Although I hate to do it, it looks like we're going to have to slip > Fedora Core 5 test3 by a week. There is an ABI change in the gcc/glibc > stack that requires a rebuild of the entire distribution. Given that, > there is no way that we'll be able to make a freeze date of Monday. So, > test3 will now freeze on Monday, 13 February with a release date of > Monday, 20 February. > > We'll adjust the final schedule sometime next week based on the progress > of the rebuilding efforts. > > Thanks, > > Jeremy > No problem, I am sure it will be worth the wait! :) -- Best regards, ~WILL~ Public Key: 0xC8E166BB Key: http://code-heads.com/keys/ch1.asc Linux Registered User: 406084 (http://counter.li.org/) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stanfinley at comcast.net Sat Feb 4 00:25:45 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:25:45 -0700 Subject: How many people have unbootable FC5T2? In-Reply-To: <43E32A87.9050706@bigpond.net.au> References: <7c79ba150601241508w252db345k863ce8a56327c8a4@mail.gmail.com> <1138205958.6729.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43E32A87.9050706@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <1139012745.4012.3.camel@stantonfinley.org> On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 21:03 +1100, David Timms wrote: > Peter Jones wrote: > > >On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 23:08 +0000, Matt Carter wrote: > > > > > >>Just a quick quiz on how many people have a install of fedora that is > >>unbootable? Where does it stop? When did it stop? > >> > >>Only reason I am asking is I havent had mine working since early test1 > >>and am nervous about the release of FC5 as it might not support my > >>laptop. I have used fedora on it since FC3 and have never had any > >>issues but FC5 tests seem to be causing all hell to break loose. > >> > >> > >So, uh, can you answer your own question for us? Where does it stop for > >you? > > > And on what type of hardware ? > FC5T2 won't boot on my Emachines T5026. In fact it can't even find the kernel image on the boot disk. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178143 Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From icon at fedoraproject.org Sat Feb 4 00:25:37 2006 From: icon at fedoraproject.org (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:25:37 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43E3F481.9080800@fedoraproject.org> ? 03/02/06 05:39 PM, Jeremy Katz a ?crit: > Although I hate to do it, it looks like we're going to have to slip > Fedora Core 5 test3 by a week. There is an ABI change in the gcc/glibc > stack that requires a rebuild of the entire distribution. Given that, > there is no way that we'll be able to make a freeze date of Monday. So, > test3 will now freeze on Monday, 13 February with a release date of > Monday, 20 February. > > We'll adjust the final schedule sometime next week based on the progress > of the rebuilding efforts. Hey, Jeremy: How will this affect the readiness of Extras for FC5? About 4 weeks ago we were asked to rebuild our packages if we hadn't done that in a while -- in order to be ready for FC5. Will this have to be re-done? (Not complaining, just asking. :)) Regards, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev McGill University WSG Montr?al, Qu?bec From jkeating at redhat.com Sat Feb 4 00:48:27 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:48:27 -0800 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <43E3F481.9080800@fedoraproject.org> References: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> <43E3F481.9080800@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1139014107.2863.63.camel@yoda.loki.me> On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 19:25 -0500, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > Hey, Jeremy: > > How will this affect the readiness of Extras for FC5? About 4 weeks > ago we were asked to rebuild our packages if we hadn't done that in > a while -- in order to be ready for FC5. Will this have to be re-done? > > (Not complaining, just asking. :)) Yes, once we've rebuilt FC5, FE5 should be rebuilt as well. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <2ad7cea10602031731h4001cb97ke1e940f00e18f1d8@mail.gmail.com> Decided to grab samba & friends after todays updates- e.g. yum install samba *swat* system-onfig-samba; got the packages installed OK but was unable to use system-config-samba from the menu. It prompted me for my root PW as expected (but) when given the correct PW looped back to asking me for the root PW *again*. Curious... I then tried running system-config-samba from a terminal window SU -'d *as* root and encountered the same issue. Anyone else seeing this? Bugzilla? Bests Jon From jonathansavage at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 01:41:39 2006 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 17:41:39 -0800 Subject: system-config-samba hosed? In-Reply-To: <2ad7cea10602031731h4001cb97ke1e940f00e18f1d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad7cea10602031731h4001cb97ke1e940f00e18f1d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad7cea10602031741n3ea56c0au964e5cb794fe97d2@mail.gmail.com> > Bugzilla? > > Bests > > Jon > never mind someone already filed # 179937on this issue -- Bests, Jon From cjones at patriot.net Sat Feb 4 01:41:32 2006 From: cjones at patriot.net (Claude Jones) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 20:41:32 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes (touch errors) In-Reply-To: <20060203164030.GG24201@redhat.com> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <4c4ba1530602030838l6aa35be3x7c0600188b9b8ddd@mail.gmail.com> <20060203164030.GG24201@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200602032041.32348.cjones@patriot.net> On Friday 03 February 2006 11:40 am, Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 08:38:43AM -0800, Tom London wrote: > > Update seems to break touch: > > The kernel implemented a new syscall which glibc started using. > Some apps were passing values it wasn't quite prepared for. > Jakub fixed the problem, so hopefully the next glibc update > should fix it. > > Dave Noticed tons of touch errors today on a reboot, and found the above. When poking around, I discovered there are two versions of glibc on my machine. Is that normal? I'm not near it now, so I can't post the versions, but they were pretty close to each other... -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA From davej at redhat.com Sat Feb 4 02:19:56 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 21:19:56 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes (touch errors) In-Reply-To: <200602032041.32348.cjones@patriot.net> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <4c4ba1530602030838l6aa35be3x7c0600188b9b8ddd@mail.gmail.com> <20060203164030.GG24201@redhat.com> <200602032041.32348.cjones@patriot.net> Message-ID: <20060204021956.GE25076@redhat.com> On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 08:41:32PM -0500, Claude Jones wrote: > On Friday 03 February 2006 11:40 am, Dave Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 08:38:43AM -0800, Tom London wrote: > > > Update seems to break touch: > > > > The kernel implemented a new syscall which glibc started using. > > Some apps were passing values it wasn't quite prepared for. > > Jakub fixed the problem, so hopefully the next glibc update > > should fix it. > > > > Dave > Noticed tons of touch errors today on a reboot, and found the above. When > poking around, I discovered there are two versions of glibc on my machine. Is > that normal? I'm not near it now, so I can't post the versions, but they were > pretty close to each other... x86-64 ? If so, yes. Dave From pgraner at redhat.com Sat Feb 4 02:42:56 2006 From: pgraner at redhat.com (Pete Graner) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:42:56 -0500 Subject: Apple Updates? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602031705h730240a1t681e63b88a7ea8ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <91f88ee20602031705h730240a1t681e63b88a7ea8ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E414B0.70507@redhat.com> Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > Does anyone know if there are relevant Apple-centric updates I should > apply or review before I continue with troubleshooting FC5T2 on any > Apple PowerPC ? > > I have been poking around at: > http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/ > > Thoughts? Comments? > > Thanks =) > -- > WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting > What specific things are you trying to troubleshoot? I have a powerbook 17" that I'm having the following issues with: Sound modules won't load Once modules are loaded sound won't work: Can only get X to run with FBDev not ati or radeon driver Currently wireless both the BCM and airo drivers are hosed Won't suspend with apmud (locks the box up HARD) Any of the same issues. Most of the the only one I could find in bz was the sound modules won't load. If your having the same need to bz the rest. Pete -- Pete Graner email: From netwiz at crc.id.au Sat Feb 4 02:44:27 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:44:27 +1100 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <145FFF17-A79E-45EE-864B-95D0B4D1A127@crc.id.au> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <20060203123001.GC8909@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> <43E34FB0.3060303@karan.org> <5F6B386F-1167-472E-96E8-6553F8CBA581@crc.id.au> <1138995298.2685.0.camel@chris> <145FFF17-A79E-45EE-864B-95D0B4D1A127@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <09DAC5BF-C80A-4A98-BAD8-AAD3780CFD8D@crc.id.au> On 04/02/2006, at 12:59 AM, Steven Haigh wrote: > On 04/02/2006, at 6:34 AM, Chris Chabot wrote: >>> Hmmm - I can't get this going... I download the fglrx-kmod src rpm, >>> and do a "rpmbuild --rebuild -bb fglrx-kmod...." and get back an >>> error stating: >>> >>> "error: Architecture is not included: i386" >> >> rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 -bb fglrx-kmod... > > Doh! it's always something sooo simple :P I've got a feeling that I'm missing something here - as whenever I run something that uses GL, it's very very slow - so I'm guessing it's still doing software GL... Can someone tell me if I've missed something in the below? 1) build and install the kmod fglrx.ko 2) build and install the Xorg driver - fglrx_drv.so 3) Change the line in xorg.conf from "Driver radeon" to "Driver fglrx" (ignore the misguided quotes :) 4) Restart X. Now, if I run fgl_glxgears -info, I get: Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer GL_RENDERER = Mesa GLX Indirect GL_VERSION = 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1) GL_EXTENSIONS = *snipped the million lines :P* X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate) Serial number of failed request: 29 Current serial number in output stream: 31 This makes me feel that it's falling back to Mesa instead of GL being handled by the ATI driver. Does this sound correct? Am I misunderstanding something? Ideas? -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From admin at ramshacklestudios.com Sat Feb 4 02:51:35 2006 From: admin at ramshacklestudios.com (Peter Gordon) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:51:35 -0800 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1139021495.3267.5.camel@tuxhugger> On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 17:39 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > Although I hate to do it, it looks like we're going to have to slip > Fedora Core 5 test3 by a week. There is an ABI change in the gcc/glibc > stack that requires a rebuild of the entire distribution. Given that, > there is no way that we'll be able to make a freeze date of Monday. So, > test3 will now freeze on Monday, 13 February with a release date of > Monday, 20 February. Sounds good here. Thanks for keeping us posted. =) -- Peter Gordon (codergeek42) GnuPG Public Key: 0xDA3634D7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From cjones at patriot.net Sat Feb 4 04:14:16 2006 From: cjones at patriot.net (Claude Jones) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 23:14:16 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes (touch errors) In-Reply-To: <20060204021956.GE25076@redhat.com> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200602032041.32348.cjones@patriot.net> <20060204021956.GE25076@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200602032314.16635.cjones@patriot.net> On Fri February 3 2006 9:19 pm, Dave Jones wrote: > x86-64 ? If so, yes. > > ????????????????Dave Doesn't ring a bell. I'll post them tomorrow when I'm back in the office. Thanks. -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sat Feb 4 04:48:19 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 15:48:19 +1100 Subject: Anyone been trying suspend on recent kernels? In-Reply-To: <43DA1F9F.9090306@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <43DA1F9F.9090306@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <43E43213.5040302@bigpond.net.au> Andy Burns wrote: > After "nearly" having some success with pm-suspend a few weeks ago, I > find that in recent rawhide kernels my system crashes at pm-suspend > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178339 > Anyone else been having any more success (or similar issues) with > suspend lately? andy: I have just inadvertently tried it out today. Machine is a HP compaq nx9000 (ati) notebook, with lid switch. I meant to leave the notebook running (quite a few apps-xmms etc) overnight, but closed the lid - which I noticed turned the screen black (I though backlight off). I noticed in the morning that the power LED was flashing slowly, indicating some sort of suspend. Opening the lid not cause the machine to come back to life, nor did pressing any buttons. Pressing the power switch causes the notebook to go to a powered state (power led on), and the fan starts, but no disk activity nor image is visible on the screen. After ten minutes, still no action. Holding the power button for forced off, and then restarting seems to restart (normal boot) without to much problem(I think I noticed fsck). Do you happen to know if there is a GUI option to control what the lid switch does (ie just backlight off would be better for me!) ? From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sat Feb 4 05:00:01 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:00:01 +1100 Subject: Burning CDs - try k3b In-Reply-To: <43DE2405.9000703@redhat.com> References: <1138380774.2807.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43DA56F8.3090506@BitWagon.com> <43DE2405.9000703@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E434D1.8000403@bigpond.net.au> Harald Hoyer wrote: > John Reiser wrote: > >>> Should I be able to burn CDs? >> >> Burning works properly [in general.] >> >>> I'm trying to burn the FC5t2 ISOs and I've tried with GNOME and >>> cdrecord >>> but they're failing the sha1sum test. >> >> The burning probably worked. Almost certainly, the failure is in >> the verifying. >> > Use isosize to determine the number of bytes to read and only cmp with > those... also make sure you burned the CD with -dao ... k3b (which I far prefer to the apps Leon tried) verifies CD's I make from iso's OK. Perhaps it uses the workaround method internally when verifying ? From gnomeuser at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 05:52:44 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 06:52:44 +0100 Subject: Burning CDs In-Reply-To: <1138380774.2807.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1138380774.2807.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1139032365.2356.6.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> And we have a winner again, cdburning is again broken for users. bash-3.1$ cdrecord -dev=ATA:1,0,0 -driveropts=burnfree -data image.iso cdrecord: No write mode specified. cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent defaults. cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds... Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a03-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2005 J?rg Schilling NOTE: This version contains the OSS DVD extensions for cdrtools and thus may have bugs related to DVD issues that are not present in the original cdrtools. Please send bug reports or support requests to http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla The original cdrtools author should not be bothered with problems in this version. cdrecord: Cannot allocate memory. WARNING: Cannot do mlockall(2). cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority(). cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. scsidev: 'ATA:1,0,0' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (schily - Red Hat-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.85-RH '@(#)scsi-linux-sg.c 1.85 05/05/16 Copyright 1997 J. Schilling'). Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info : 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716AL ' Revision : '1.00' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Cannot send SCSI cmd via ioctl It works as root though, I tried filing to bugzilla but it gave me, ironically, an error message. - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 05:53:52 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 23:53:52 -0600 Subject: Changing Gnome desktop background "Style" Message-ID: <8767947e0602032153s6e43baa7hc917b199b05ce6e7@mail.gmail.com> Hey everyone, It seems that attempting to change the Gnome desktop background style (Fill Screen, Centered, Scaled, Zoom, or Tiled) does not change anything unless you also change the picture. The menu item changes and remembers its settings, but it does not change the background. If you select another picture, select OK, then bring it back up and make change the settings for the original picture, it will work. Anyone else seeing this? Jonathan PS: Any chance of getting a widescreen aspect ratio (16:9 and/or 16:10) of the new spiffy default Fedora background? From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 05:58:48 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 23:58:48 -0600 Subject: Widescreen 1440x900 resolution Message-ID: <8767947e0602032158q53512ccarc7682ac3b2c5db84@mail.gmail.com> Hey everyone, Okay, system-config-display has a generic LCD 1440x900 monitor in it, but is does not have a 1440x900 resolution mode. Or rather, I guess it is xorg that does not have the mode. What does it take to get this added as a "natively" supported mode? It works great if I add the following Modeline: Modeline "1440x900" 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 -HSync +Vsync This yeilds 1440x900 at 60 Hz (found randomly on the Internet and works great). Jonathan From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 06:05:22 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 00:05:22 -0600 Subject: SELinux and NSS [was: Problem with NSS update - Firefox, Evolution] In-Reply-To: <43E020A8.5020706@redhat.com> References: <8767947e0601281249w13ed78d9n509371d7fd8b7b59@mail.gmail.com> <43E020A8.5020706@redhat.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602032205t58ef1e2fs21b2e19dd989c74d@mail.gmail.com> On 1/31/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > setsebool -P allow_execmem=1 This allows Evolution to run, but Firefox still complains about not being able to do the security stuff. Still need to setenforce 0 to access https. Besides, this seems like a rather far reaching "fix." Not that I'm exactly sure what exactly it does.... Jonathan From foster at in.tum.de Sat Feb 4 08:33:39 2006 From: foster at in.tum.de (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 09:33:39 +0100 Subject: Burning CDs In-Reply-To: <1139032365.2356.6.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <1138380774.2807.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1139032365.2356.6.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: On 2/4/06, David Nielsen wrote: > [CD burning] works as root though, I tried filing to bugzilla but it gave me, > ironically, an error message. Did you cut and paste the whole log into the initial bug report? There's a bug on RH bugzilla where it posts the initial bug with HTTP GET instead of POST and therefore barfs on long-ish initial submissions. Here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=171186 MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth) From buildsys at redhat.com Sat Feb 4 09:23:45 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 04:23:45 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060204 changes Message-ID: <200602040923.k149Njh2004185@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: acl-2.2.34-1 ------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Thomas Woerner 2.2.34-1 - new version 2.2.34 alsa-lib-1.0.11-3.rc2 --------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Martin Stransky 1.0.11-3.rc2 - fix for #179446 - don't remove old SHM memory/keys during login anaconda-10.91.14-1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.91.14-1 - Handle reiserfs labels (dcantrel, #125939) - Skip more steps in root mode (Jasper Hartline) - Update driver list for current kernels - Don't put mapper/ in the swap label (pjones) - Set file contexts on blkid.tab* (pjones) - Increase logical volume label field to 32 chars (dcantrel, #174661) - More exception trimming (clumens) - Fix args to writeConfiguration (clumens, #179928) - Fix format strings in label device, proper max for swap labels (pjones) - Make task definition more dynamic - Add a hack to remove the xen group if we're running on xen (#179387) attr-2.4.28-1 ------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Thomas Woerner 2.4.28-1 - new version 2.4.28 authconfig-5.2.0-1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Tomas Mraz - 5.2.0-1 - redesigned GUI (#178112) - added man page for system-config-ac (#179584) - disable authentication of system accounts by network services by default, added option for changing that (#179009) - updated translations, new languages control-center-1:2.13.90-2 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Christopher Aillon 1:2.13.90-2 - Patch gnome-about-me's file chooser dialog to default to the system faces directory eclipse-1:3.1.2-1jpp_2fc ------------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Andrew Overholt 3.1.2-1jpp_2fc - Updated launcher script. emacs-21.4-12 ------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jens Petersen - 21.4-12 - add mule-cmd.el-X11-locale.alias-173781.patch to correct location of X11 locale.alias file (Paul Dickson, #173781) - fix autoload of php-mode in php-mode-init.el (Christopher Beland, #179484) * Wed Dec 14 2005 Jens Petersen - 21.4-11 - avoid building with -fstack-protector on i386 to prevent crashing (Jonathan Kamens, #174730) - require xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi instead of xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi for modular X (#174614) emacspeak-23.0-1 ---------------- * Sat Feb 04 2006 Jens Petersen - 23.0-1 - update to 23.0 release - make package noarch - remove .cvsignore files - remove unnecessary playlists and file (Jef Spaleta, #177760) enscript-1.6.4-1.1 ------------------ * Fri Jan 27 2006 Jitka Kudrnacova 1.6.4-1.1 - fixed URL in the description (bug #178444) fontconfig-2.3.93.cvs20060131-3 ------------------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Ray Strode - 2.3.93.cvs20060131-3 - Move user cache to a subdirectory (bug 160275) glibc-2.3.90-35 --------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jakub Jelinek 2.3.90-35 - update from CVS - handle futimesat (fd, NULL, tvp) as futimes (fd, tvp) - fix q{e,f,g}cvt{,_r} for -mlong-double-64 gnome-games-1:2.13.6-3 ---------------------- * Sat Feb 04 2006 Matthias Clasen 1:2.13.6-3 - Remove unneeded gstreamer dependency gnome-user-share-0.9-2 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Alexander Larsson 0.9-2 - Patch config for apache 2.2 gnome-vfs2-2.13.4-7 ------------------- * Sat Feb 04 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.13.4-7 - Fix requires * Thu Jan 19 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.13.4-6 - Test build * Thu Jan 19 2006 Ray Strode 2.13.4-5 - s/sed -ie/sed -i -e/ grep-2.5.1-52 ------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Tim Waugh 2.5.1-52 - Prevent 'grep -P' from segfaulting (bug #171379). hplip-0.9.8-2 ------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Tim Waugh 0.9.8-2 - Patchlevel 2. * Thu Feb 02 2006 Tim Waugh 0.9.8-1 - 0.9.8. - No longer need initscript patch. - Don't package hpfax yet. httpd-2.2.0-5 ------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Joe Orton 2.2.0-5 - mod_ssl: add security fix for CVE-2005-3357 (#177914) - mod_imagemap: add security fix for CVE-2005-3352 (#177913) - add fix for AP_INIT_* designated initializers with C++ compilers - httpd.conf: enable HTMLTable in default IndexOptions - httpd.conf: add more "redirect-carefully" matches for DAV clients hwdata-0.174-1 -------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Phil Knirsch - 0.174-1 - Some cleanup and adds to the MonitorDB which closes several db related bugs. indent-2.2.9-12 --------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Petr Machata 2.2.9-12 - Adding Wei-Lun Chao's zh_TW UTF-8 messages (#134044) iptraf-3.0.0-1 -------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Miroslav Lichvar 3.0.0-1 - update to release 3.0.0 - spec cleanup - drop cfgpath patch - fix bad display of frames on linux console (#140698) kdeaccessibility-1:3.5.1-1 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Than Ngo 1:3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 kdeaddons-3.5.1-1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Than Ngo 3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 kdeadmin-7:3.5.1-1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Than Ngo 7:3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 kdeartwork-3.5.1-1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Than Ngo 3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 kdebase-6:3.5.1-2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-2 - apply patch to fix broken xx_XX layouts in kxkb - cleanup spec file kdegames-6:3.5.1-1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 kernel-2.6.15-1.1907_FC5 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc2 - Modify /etc/sysconfig/kernel on x86-64 to handle kernel-smp going away. - Silence noisy edac drivers. - Merge some patches from cpufreq git tree. - Fix some bogus percpu data accesses. - Suppress some network layer msgs kernel-xen-2.6.15-1.40_FC5 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Stephen Tweedie - Rebase to chrisw's latest merge tree (fix skbuff conflicts) - Rebase to xen-unstable hypervisor cset 8737 - Fix merge of davej's acpi changes to xen * Thu Feb 02 2006 Stephen Tweedie - Rebase to linux-2.6-merge.hg cset 19892 - Disable PAE again * Thu Feb 02 2006 Juan Quintela - merged with rawhide 1985. - enable PAE for this run. libXft-2.1.8.2-3 ---------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Mike A. Harris 2.1.8.2-3 - Added missing dependencies to devel subpackage to fix (#176744) man-pages-fr-0.9.7-13 --------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Peter Vrabec - rebuilt * Tue Jan 10 2006 Bernd Groh - remove pages that conflict with shadow-utils mc-1:4.6.1a-7 ------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Jindrich Novy 4.6.1a-7 - update from CVS - fixes syntax file for PHP - make displaying of free space configurable - fix permission highlighting (#177100) - redirect stdout and stderr of several apps run on background to /dev/null to not to mess up mc interface (#178833) - refresh directories to avoid errors caused by copying files to non-existent directories (#177111) - add an option to insert changelog entry in mcedit, thanks to Radek Vokal mkinitrd-5.0.21-1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Peter Jones - 5.0.21-1 - add "mount -o bind" support and "mount --move" support (#109366, patch from Kasper Dupont) - add resolveDevice command, which cases down device labels. - remove "findlodev" from the documentation (#178587) - fix nash command name parsing bug (#178587) - fix "find" argument parsing (#178587) - add "find" handling for "-type d" * Thu Feb 02 2006 Peter Jones - 5.0.20-1 - fix really dumb spec file mistake - fix devno detection for /dev/root - fix testdm check * Thu Feb 02 2006 Peter Jones - 5.0.19-1 - mkinitrd: get resolve_dm_name() and get_numeric_dev() from initscripts instead of a private copy - add block.[ch]: - move parse_sysfs_devnum(), sysfs_blkdev_probe(), and mkpathbyspec() from nash.c - add label/uuid/name lookups for block devices using libblkid - add lib.[ch]: - move makeFdCoe(), coeOpen(), coeFopen(), coeOpendir(), readFD(), nashLoggerV(), nashLogger(), qprintf(), eprintf(), smartmknod(), testing, quiet, reallyquiet from nash.c - move nashDefaultLogger(), from dm.c - move log enums and declarations from dm.h - dm.c: add dm_finish(), which does dm_task_destroy() and then library cleanup (solves an fd leak) - remove linux_fs.h, mount_by_label.[ch], name_to_dev_t.[ch] notify-daemon-0.3.1-6 --------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.3.1-6 - Add patch to determine whether a compositing manager is running when drawing a new notification bubble, as long as the CM grabs the appropriate XSelection. pam-0.99.3.0-1 -------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Tomas Mraz 0.99.3.0-1 - new upstream version - updated db4 to 4.3.29 - added module pam_tally2 with auditing support - added manual pages for system-auth and config-util (#179584) * Tue Jan 03 2006 Tomas Mraz 0.99.2.1-3 - remove 'initscripts' dependency (#176508) - update pam-redhat modules, merged patches * Fri Dec 16 2005 Tomas Mraz 0.99.2.1-2 - fix dangling symlinks in -devel (#175929) - link libaudit only where necessary - actually compile in audit support perl-4:5.8.8-1.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4:5.8.8-1.1 - Rebuild with new gcc and glibc * Wed Feb 01 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4:5.8.8-1 - Upgrade to new upstream release 5.8.8, officially released today * Tue Jan 31 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3:5.8.8-0.1_RC1 - fix bug 178343: h2ph must include cpp "predefined macros" in _h2ph_pre.ph - Add perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) to Provides - Fix perlbug patch perl-Archive-Tar-1.28-1 ----------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.28-1 - Upgrade to upstream version 1.28 - Rebuild for perl-5.8.8 perl-Archive-Zip-1.16-1.2 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.16-1.2 - rebuilt for new perl-5.8.8 perl-BSD-Resource-1.24-3.2 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.24-3.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-Bit-Vector-6.4-2.2 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 6.4-2.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-Carp-Clan-5.3-1.2 ---------------------- perl-Compress-Zlib-1.41-1.2 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.41-1.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-Convert-ASN1-0.19-1.2 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.19-1.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-Crypt-SSLeay-0.51-9.2 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0.51-9.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 / gcc / glibc perl-DBD-MySQL-3.0002-2.2 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3.0002-2.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-DBD-Pg-1.43-2.2 -------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.43-2.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-DBI-1.50-2 --------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.50-2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 / gcc / glibc perl-Date-Calc-5.4-1.2 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 5.4-1.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-DateManip-5.44-1.2 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 5.44-1.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-Devel-Symdump-2.06-1 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 2.06-1 - Upgrade to 2.0.6 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-Digest-HMAC-1.01-14.2 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.01-14.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-Digest-SHA1-2.11-1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 2.11-1 - Upgrade to 2.11 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-File-MMagic-1.26-1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.26-1 - Upgrade to 1.26 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-Frontier-RPC-0.06-39.2 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0.06-39.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-HTML-Parser-3.48-1.1 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3.48-1 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-HTML-Tagset-3.10-2.1 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3.10-2.1 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-IO-String-1.08-1.1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0:1.08-1.1 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-IO-Zlib-1.04-4.2 --------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.04-4.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-Inline-0.44-15.2 --------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0.44-15.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-LDAP-1:0.33-1.2 -------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0.33-1.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-Net-DNS-0.55-1.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0.55-1.1 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-Net-IP-1.24-2.2 -------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.24-2.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-Net-Telnet-3.03-4.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3.03-4.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 - modify .spec file to conform to Fedora spectemplate-perl.spec perl-PDL-2.4.2-2.fc5.1.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 2.4.2-2.fc5.1.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 - enable build to succeed without perl-PDL being installed :-) perl-Parse-RecDescent-1.94-5.2 ------------------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.94-5.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-RPM-Specfile-1.19-2.1 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.19-2.1 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-SGMLSpm-1.03ii-16.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.03ii-16.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-String-CRC32-1.3-3.FC5 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0:1.03-3.FC5 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-TermReadKey-2.30-1.2 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 2.30-1.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-TimeDate-1:1.16-3.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1:1.16-3.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-URI-1.35-2.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.35-2.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-XML-Dumper-0.79-1.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0.79-1.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-XML-Grove-0.46alpha-29.1 ----------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0.46alpha-29.1 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-XML-LibXML-1.58-2.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.58-2.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-XML-LibXML-Common-0.13-8.2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0.13-8.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-XML-NamespaceSupport-1.09-1.2 ---------------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 1.09-1.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-XML-Parser-2.34-6.1.2 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 2.34-6-1.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-XML-SAX-0.13-1.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0.13-1.1 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 * Mon Dec 19 2005 Jason Vas Dias - 0.13-1 - upgrade to 0.13 * Fri Dec 16 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt for new gcc perl-XML-Simple-2.14-2.1 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 2.14-2.1 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-XML-Twig-3.23-1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3.22-1.1 - Update to 3.23 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-libwww-perl-5.805-1.1 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 5.805-1.1 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 perl-libxml-perl-0.08-1.2 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0.08-1.2 - rebuild for new perl-5.8.8 pirut-0.9.10-1 -------------- * Sat Feb 04 2006 Jeremy Katz - 0.9.10-1 - Add a popup menu for selecting all/none of the optional packages in a group - Speed up pirut startup and list mode a bit * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jeremy Katz - 0.9.9-1 - Just use the group name when we don't have a description (#178089) - Require actually clicking on the checkboxes, not the text (#178090) - Make browse view a little bit more obvious (#178091) - Fix selection in list filters (#179210) - Fix searching in list view (#179839) - Fix searching in optional packages list - Allow unsigned packages with a suitably scary warning on installing single packages (#178908) policycoreutils-1.29.18-2 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Dan Walsh 1.29.18-2 - Add auditing to semanage postgresql-odbc-08.01.0200-1 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Tom Lane 08.01.0200-1 - Update to version 08.01.0200. - Upstream now calls the library psqlodbcw.so ... add a symlink to avoid breaking existing odbc configuration files. pychecker-0.8.17-1 ------------------ * Sat Feb 04 2006 Miloslav Trmac - 0.8.17-1 - Update to pychecker-0.8.17 redhat-rpm-config-8.0.40-1 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jeremy Katz - 8.0.40-1 - use -mtune=generic for x86 and x86_64 * Tue Aug 16 2005 Elliot Lee - 8.0.39-1 - Fix #165416 * Mon Aug 01 2005 Elliot Lee - 8.0.38-1 - Add -Wall into cflags scim-1.4.4-2 ------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jens Petersen - 1.4.4-2 - remove scim-reload-engines-165655.patch since it seems to break input after reloading configuration (#179807) - add gtkimm-clear-preedit-on-reset-174143.patch to clear the preedit buffer when IME turned off (Qian Shen, #174143) - add rawcode-unicode-maxlength.patch to improve input of unicode codes (James Su, #173102) - add scim.pc-versioned-moduledir-179706.patch to include api version in moduledir in scim.pc so that IMEs get installed in versioned dir by default (Akira Tagoh, #179706) * Fri Jan 13 2006 Jens Petersen - 1.4.4-1 - update to 1.4.4 bugfix release - scim-gtk-langs-167090.patch no longer needed since 1.4.3 - move scim dl modules to scim-libs for multilib to work correctly - define %scim_api * Mon Dec 19 2005 Jens Petersen - 1.4.2-9 - enable linker symbol versioning now that mt_alloc is fixed (#173220) - buildrequire libXt-devel for configure - buildrequire autoconf, automake, and libtool for autoreconf selinux-policy-2.2.11-1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.11-1 - Fixes for mcs - Turn on mount and fsadm for unconfined_t * Wed Feb 01 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.10-1 - Fixes for the -devel package system-config-kickstart-2.6.4-1 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Chris Lumens 2.6.4-1 - Convert package selection to using pirut (#178759). - Partitioning screen fixes for cciss. - Use consolehelper. system-config-lvm-1.0.11-1.0 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Stanko Kupcevic 1.0.11-1.0 - Fixes for bz175077,169860,178128,161917,171117,175131,178195 tomcat5-0:5.0.30-8jpp_9fc ------------------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Rafael Schloming - 0:5.0.30-8jpp_9fc - Fixed XSS vulnerabilities in the example apps. xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.7.3-2 -------------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Mike A. Harris 6.5.7.3-2 - Added r128.xinf and radeon.xinf videoalias files to fix bug (#174101). - Added "BuildRequires: libdrm-devel >= 2.0-1" to fix bug (#178613) xorg-x11-drv-dummy-0.1.0.5-1 ---------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 0.1.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-dummy to version 0.1.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-glint-1.0.1.3-1 ---------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-glint to version 1.0.1.3 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-i740-1.0.0.5-1 --------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-i740 to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-i810-1.4.1.3-2 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.4.1.3-2 - Added 8086:2592 mapping to i810.xinf for bug (#172884) * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.4.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-i810 to version 1.4.1.3 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-mga-1.2.1.3-1 -------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.2.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-mga to version 1.2.1.3 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-neomagic-1.0.0.5-1 ------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-neomagic to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-nsc-2.7.6.5-2 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Mike A. Harris 2.7.6.5-2 - Added nsc.xinf driver mapping file. * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 2.7.6.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-nsc to version 2.7.6.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-nv-1.0.1.5-1 ------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-nv to version 1.0.1.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-rendition-4.0.1.3-1 -------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 4.0.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-rendition to version 4.0.1.3 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-s3-0.3.5.5-1 ------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 0.3.5.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-s3 to version 0.3.5.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-s3virge-1.8.6.5-1 ------------------------------ * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.8.6.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-s3virge to version 1.8.6.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-savage-2.0.2.3-1 ----------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 2.0.2.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-savage to version 2.0.2.3 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-sis-0.8.1.3-1 -------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 0.8.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-sis to version 0.8.1.3 from X11R7.0 * Tue Dec 20 2005 Mike A. Harris 0.8.1.2-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-sis to version 0.8.1.2 from X11R7 RC4 - Removed 'x' suffix from manpage dirs to match RC4 upstream. * Wed Nov 16 2005 Mike A. Harris 0.8.1-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-sis to version 0.8.1 from X11R7 RC2 - Added "BuildRequires: mesa-libGL-devel >= 6.4-4" for DRI-enabled builds. xorg-x11-drv-tdfx-1.1.1.3-1 --------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.1.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-tdfx to version 1.1.1.3 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-trident-1.0.1.2-1 ------------------------------ * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1.2-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-trident to version 1.0.1.2 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-tseng-1.0.0.5-1 ---------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-tseng to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-v4l-0.0.1.5-1 -------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 0.0.1.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-v4l to version 0.0.1.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-vesa-1.0.1.3-1 --------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-vesa to version 1.0.1.3 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-vga-4.0.0.5-1 -------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 4.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-vga to version 4.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-via-0.1.33.2-1 --------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 0.1.33.2-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-via to version 0.1.33.2 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-vmware-10.11.1.3-1 ------------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 10.11.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-vmware to version 10.11.1.3 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-voodoo-1.0.0.5-1 ----------------------------- * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-voodoo to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 yum-2.5.1-4 ----------- * Fri Feb 03 2006 Paul Nasrat - 2.5.1-4 - Fix group unselect traceback (cf #177737) Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- ccs-devel - 1.0.2-3.1.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.2-3.1 gulm - 1.0.4-2.FC5.1.ppc requires ccs Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjava-2.8.so()(64bit) libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjni-2.8.so()(64bit) systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390x requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 From netwiz at crc.id.au Sat Feb 4 09:57:56 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 20:57:56 +1100 Subject: system-config-display broken. Message-ID: After messing around with the ATI drivers, I completely screwed my xorg.conf - so I was going to use system-config-display to create a new xorg.conf - however, when running it, I get the error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 32, in ? import rhpxl.monitor ImportError: No module names rhpxl.monitor looks like this file has gone... Is this broken due to upgrades? or something else? -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From netwiz at crc.id.au Sat Feb 4 10:01:18 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 21:01:18 +1100 Subject: system-config-display broken. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <224863AD-6A41-4696-941C-744EA282B465@crc.id.au> On 04/02/2006, at 8:57 PM, Steven Haigh wrote: > After messing around with the ATI drivers, I completely screwed my > xorg.conf - so I was going to use system-config-display to create a > new xorg.conf - however, when running it, I get the error: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 32, in ? > import rhpxl.monitor > ImportError: No module names rhpxl.monitor > > looks like this file has gone... Is this broken due to upgrades? or > something else? Ah - looks like it's dependent on the package 'rhpxl' - however there's no dependencies linking them... -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From gnomeuser at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 10:01:25 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 11:01:25 +0100 Subject: Burning CDs In-Reply-To: References: <1138380774.2807.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1139032365.2356.6.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <1139047286.2356.10.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> l?r, 04 02 2006 kl. 09:33 +0100, skrev Mary Ellen Foster: > On 2/4/06, David Nielsen wrote: > > [CD burning] works as root though, I tried filing to bugzilla but it gave me, > > ironically, an error message. > > Did you cut and paste the whole log into the initial bug report? > There's a bug on RH bugzilla where it posts the initial bug with HTTP > GET instead of POST and therefore barfs on long-ish initial > submissions. Here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=171186 Interesting, I never suspected that bugzilla itself might be the issue, I figured it was a connection thing. - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From markkuk at tuubi.net Sat Feb 4 11:36:00 2006 From: markkuk at tuubi.net (Markku Kolkka) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:36:00 +0200 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <09DAC5BF-C80A-4A98-BAD8-AAD3780CFD8D@crc.id.au> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <145FFF17-A79E-45EE-864B-95D0B4D1A127@crc.id.au> <09DAC5BF-C80A-4A98-BAD8-AAD3780CFD8D@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <200602041336.00632.markkuk@tuubi.net> Steven Haigh kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika lauantai, 4. helmikuuta 2006 04:44): > Now, if I run fgl_glxgears -info, I get: > Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer > GL_RENDERER = Mesa GLX Indirect > GL_VERSION = 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1) > GL_EXTENSIONS = *snipped the million lines :P* > X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest > Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) > Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate) > Serial number of failed request: 29 > Current serial number in output stream: 31 > > This makes me feel that it's falling back to Mesa instead of > GL being handled by the ATI driver. Does this sound correct? Yes. See the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to see why hardware acceleration is failing. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 12:33:32 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 07:33:32 -0500 Subject: Apple Updates? In-Reply-To: <43E414B0.70507@redhat.com> References: <91f88ee20602031705h730240a1t681e63b88a7ea8ed@mail.gmail.com> <43E414B0.70507@redhat.com> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602040433k35fa34e3u6002ae365071ce91@mail.gmail.com> On 2/3/06, Pete Graner wrote: > What specific things are you trying to troubleshoot? > Sound modules won't load > Once modules are loaded sound won't work: > Can only get X to run with FBDev not ati or radeon driver > Currently wireless both the BCM and airo drivers are hosed > Won't suspend with apmud (locks the box up HARD) Similar issues - but I'm not wireless, etc... ATI works correctly out of the box; plus I'm not a laptop even though the power management thinks I am... BTW - you can get the sound system to work (manually) by using: su - -c "modprobe *ppc*" IE, load all the powerpc related modules; I just can't get it to work automagically during start-up -- seems someone black-listed the sound related stuff in /etc/modprobe* I'll keep kicking it and see if anything pops out... -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 4 13:24:59 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 08:24:59 -0500 Subject: Anyone been trying suspend on recent kernels? In-Reply-To: <43E43213.5040302@bigpond.net.au> References: <43DA1F9F.9090306@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E43213.5040302@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <43E4AB2B.1020608@insight.rr.com> David Timms wrote: > Andy Burns wrote: > >> After "nearly" having some success with pm-suspend a few weeks ago, I >> find that in recent rawhide kernels my system crashes at pm-suspend >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178339 >> Anyone else been having any more success (or similar issues) with >> suspend lately? > > andy: I have just inadvertently tried it out today. Machine is a HP > compaq nx9000 (ati) notebook, with lid switch. I meant to leave the > notebook running (quite a few apps-xmms etc) overnight, but closed the > lid - which I noticed turned the screen black (I though backlight off). This accidental entry into suspend mode happened to me also. My sister-in-law partially shut the lid on my HP Pavilion. Fortunately, I did not have a lot of apps running at the time. > > I noticed in the morning that the power LED was flashing slowly, > indicating some sort of suspend. Opening the lid not cause the machine > to come back to life, nor did pressing any buttons. Pressing the power > switch causes the notebook to go to a powered state (power led on), and > the fan starts, but no disk activity nor image is visible on the screen. > After ten minutes, still no action. Holding the power button for forced > off, and then restarting seems to restart (normal boot) without to much > problem(I think I noticed fsck). I did not wait very long after the hitting the power button for wakeup. I did note an fsck when the computer was reset forcefully. > > Do you happen to know if there is a GUI option to control what the lid > switch does (ie just backlight off would be better for me!) ? Disabling just the backlighting would be ideal default behavior. Though my sister-in-law knows better than to shut the lid now. Jim > -- The person who can smile when something goes wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 4 13:30:31 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 08:30:31 -0500 Subject: Anyone been trying suspend on recent kernels? In-Reply-To: <43E43213.5040302@bigpond.net.au> References: <43DA1F9F.9090306@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E43213.5040302@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <43E4AC77.7070304@insight.rr.com> David Timms wrote: > Andy Burns wrote: > > > Do you happen to know if there is a GUI option to control what the lid > switch does (ie just backlight off would be better for me!) ? > If you right click the power manager applet, there are three choices for behavior to set for closing the lid. The choices are under the actions tab. I just set mine to do nothing. The other choices are hibernate or suspend. Suspend was chosen by default. Jim From netwiz at crc.id.au Sat Feb 4 13:36:34 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 00:36:34 +1100 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <200602041336.00632.markkuk@tuubi.net> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <145FFF17-A79E-45EE-864B-95D0B4D1A127@crc.id.au> <09DAC5BF-C80A-4A98-BAD8-AAD3780CFD8D@crc.id.au> <200602041336.00632.markkuk@tuubi.net> Message-ID: <6A051320-0BC4-48F4-98E6-C24BB691F4EB@crc.id.au> On 04/02/2006, at 10:36 PM, Markku Kolkka wrote: > Steven Haigh kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika lauantai, 4. > helmikuuta 2006 04:44): >> Now, if I run fgl_glxgears -info, I get: >> Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer >> GL_RENDERER = Mesa GLX Indirect >> GL_VERSION = 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1) >> GL_EXTENSIONS = *snipped the million lines :P* >> X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest >> Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) >> Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate) >> Serial number of failed request: 29 >> Current serial number in output stream: 31 >> >> This makes me feel that it's falling back to Mesa instead of >> GL being handled by the ATI driver. Does this sound correct? > > Yes. See the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to see why hardware > acceleration is failing. This is the problem - I can't see anywhere that says it's failing. in fact, in part of Xorg.0.log, I see: (II) fglrx(0): Acceleration enabled (II) fglrx(0): X context handle = 0x1 (II) fglrx(0): [DRI] installation complete (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled (II) Loading extension FGLRXEXTENSION (II) Loading extension ATITVOUT (II) fglrx(0): Interrupt handler installed at IRQ 11. Yet when I launch fireglcontrolpanel, it still shows Mesa to be the OpenGL library. The output of fglrxinfo also backs this up. Outputs are at: http://www.crc.id.au/fedora/Xorg.0.log http://www.crc.id.au/fedora/fglrxinfo In use config at: http://www.crc.id.au/fedora/xorg.conf The module 'fglrx' is loaded into the kernel, and all is sweet there... I'm outta ideas on this one :( -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From jtorresh at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 14:08:47 2006 From: jtorresh at gmail.com (Jorge Torres) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 09:08:47 -0500 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <6A051320-0BC4-48F4-98E6-C24BB691F4EB@crc.id.au> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <145FFF17-A79E-45EE-864B-95D0B4D1A127@crc.id.au> <09DAC5BF-C80A-4A98-BAD8-AAD3780CFD8D@crc.id.au> <200602041336.00632.markkuk@tuubi.net> <6A051320-0BC4-48F4-98E6-C24BB691F4EB@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <1139062127.3088.3.camel@cable200-116-218-146.epm.net.co> Hi, Set the enviroment variable LIBGL_DEBUG to verbose and run fgl_glxgears or fglrxinfo again. $ LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose fglrxinfo Please post the output. ---- Jorge Torres El dom, 05--2006 a las 00:36 +1100, Steven Haigh escribi?: > On 04/02/2006, at 10:36 PM, Markku Kolkka wrote: > > > Steven Haigh kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika lauantai, 4. > > helmikuuta 2006 04:44): > >> Now, if I run fgl_glxgears -info, I get: > >> Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer > >> GL_RENDERER = Mesa GLX Indirect > >> GL_VERSION = 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1) > >> GL_EXTENSIONS = *snipped the million lines :P* > >> X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest > >> Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) > >> Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate) > >> Serial number of failed request: 29 > >> Current serial number in output stream: 31 > >> > >> This makes me feel that it's falling back to Mesa instead of > >> GL being handled by the ATI driver. Does this sound correct? > > > > Yes. See the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to see why hardware > > acceleration is failing. > > This is the problem - I can't see anywhere that says it's failing. in > fact, in part of Xorg.0.log, I see: > (II) fglrx(0): Acceleration enabled > (II) fglrx(0): X context handle = 0x1 > (II) fglrx(0): [DRI] installation complete > (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled > (II) Loading extension FGLRXEXTENSION > (II) Loading extension ATITVOUT > (II) fglrx(0): Interrupt handler installed at IRQ 11. > > Yet when I launch fireglcontrolpanel, it still shows Mesa to be the > OpenGL library. The output of fglrxinfo also backs this up. > > Outputs are at: > http://www.crc.id.au/fedora/Xorg.0.log > http://www.crc.id.au/fedora/fglrxinfo > > In use config at: > http://www.crc.id.au/fedora/xorg.conf > > The module 'fglrx' is loaded into the kernel, and all is sweet > there... I'm outta ideas on this one :( > > -- > Steven Haigh > > Email: netwiz at crc.id.au > Web: http://www.crc.id.au > Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 > > > > > From netwiz at crc.id.au Sat Feb 4 14:40:10 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 01:40:10 +1100 (EST) Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <1139062127.3088.3.camel@cable200-116-218-146.epm.net.co> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <145FFF17-A79E-45EE-864B-95D0B4D1A127@crc.id.au> <09DAC5BF-C80A-4A98-BAD8-AAD3780CFD8D@crc.id.au> <200602041336.00632.markkuk@tuubi.net> <6A051320-0BC4-48F4-98E6-C24BB691F4EB@crc.id.au> <1139062127.3088.3.camel@cable200-116-218-146.epm.net.co> Message-ID: <45596.10.1.1.119.1139064010.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> > Hi, > > Set the enviroment variable LIBGL_DEBUG to verbose and run fgl_glxgears > or fglrxinfo again. > > $ LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose fglrxinfo > > Please post the output. Ah ha! $ LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose fglrxinfo libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 8.21.7 fglrx (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) libGL error: unable to find driver: fglrx_dri.so libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 8.21.7 fglrx (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) libGL error: unable to find driver: fglrx_dri.so display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1) So, I went though and made a symlink from /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so and now, the output is much better: $ LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose fglrxinfo libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 8.21.7 fglrx (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 8.21.7 fglrx (screen 0) drmOpenByBusid: busid is PCI:1:0:0 drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 4 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports PCI:1:0:0 Can't open configuration file /etc/drirc: No such file or directory. Can't open configuration file /home/netwiz/.drirc: No such file or directory. display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON 9600 Generic OpenGL version string: 2.0.5582 (8.21.7) After 1 1/2 days of bashing my head into my desk, it all turns out that it was looking for the file in the wrong place! I owe you a beer. -- Steven Haigh From chabotc at xs4all.nl Sat Feb 4 15:15:27 2006 From: chabotc at xs4all.nl (Chris Chabot) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:15:27 +0100 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: <1139062127.3088.3.camel@cable200-116-218-146.epm.net.co> References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <145FFF17-A79E-45EE-864B-95D0B4D1A127@crc.id.au> <09DAC5BF-C80A-4A98-BAD8-AAD3780CFD8D@crc.id.au> <200602041336.00632.markkuk@tuubi.net> <6A051320-0BC4-48F4-98E6-C24BB691F4EB@crc.id.au> <1139062127.3088.3.camel@cable200-116-218-146.epm.net.co> Message-ID: <1139066127.1927.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose fglrxinfo libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 8.21.7 fglrx (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) libGL error: unable to find driver: fglrx_dri.so libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 8.21.7 fglrx (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) libGL error: unable to find driver: fglrx_dri.so display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1) Seems its trying to find its .so's in old XFree86 locations, not new xorg 7 ones :-) On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 09:08 -0500, Jorge Torres wrote: > Hi, > > Set the enviroment variable LIBGL_DEBUG to verbose and run fgl_glxgears > or fglrxinfo again. > > $ LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose fglrxinfo > > Please post the output. > > > ---- > Jorge Torres > > > > > El dom, 05--2006 a las 00:36 +1100, Steven Haigh escribi?: > > On 04/02/2006, at 10:36 PM, Markku Kolkka wrote: > > > > > Steven Haigh kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika lauantai, 4. > > > helmikuuta 2006 04:44): > > >> Now, if I run fgl_glxgears -info, I get: > > >> Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer > > >> GL_RENDERER = Mesa GLX Indirect > > >> GL_VERSION = 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1) > > >> GL_EXTENSIONS = *snipped the million lines :P* > > >> X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest > > >> Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) > > >> Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate) > > >> Serial number of failed request: 29 > > >> Current serial number in output stream: 31 > > >> > > >> This makes me feel that it's falling back to Mesa instead of > > >> GL being handled by the ATI driver. Does this sound correct? > > > > > > Yes. See the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to see why hardware > > > acceleration is failing. > > > > This is the problem - I can't see anywhere that says it's failing. in > > fact, in part of Xorg.0.log, I see: > > (II) fglrx(0): Acceleration enabled > > (II) fglrx(0): X context handle = 0x1 > > (II) fglrx(0): [DRI] installation complete > > (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled > > (II) Loading extension FGLRXEXTENSION > > (II) Loading extension ATITVOUT > > (II) fglrx(0): Interrupt handler installed at IRQ 11. > > > > Yet when I launch fireglcontrolpanel, it still shows Mesa to be the > > OpenGL library. The output of fglrxinfo also backs this up. > > > > Outputs are at: > > http://www.crc.id.au/fedora/Xorg.0.log > > http://www.crc.id.au/fedora/fglrxinfo > > > > In use config at: > > http://www.crc.id.au/fedora/xorg.conf > > > > The module 'fglrx' is loaded into the kernel, and all is sweet > > there... I'm outta ideas on this one :( > > > > -- > > Steven Haigh > > > > Email: netwiz at crc.id.au > > Web: http://www.crc.id.au > > Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Sat Feb 4 00:11:45 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 08:11:45 +0800 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> Orion Poplawski wrote: > Alexander Dalloz wrote: > >> Hi fellows, >> >> I like to ask about the process of KDE updates. We are actually seeing >> KDE 3.5.1-0.1.fc4 updates hitting the server. As far as I see these FC4 >> updates never appeared in the updates-testing repository. This was also >> the case with previous KDE updates - last KDE update from 17th December >> brought us then a following kdelibs update on 22th Dec., fixing an issue >> from the kdelibs update of 17th. >> >> I think maintainers do not have to use the testing repository before >> pushing Core updates. But shouldn't it be mandatory for such package >> groups like KDE? >> >> Alexander > > > I have to say that I'm starting to get frustrated with this as well. I > used to complain that there were no KDE updates within a release, but > now that it happens, I generally wish it wouldn't. It has caused a The joys of a rolling beta:-) If you don't like the way Fedora works, try RHEL or its clones such as Centos, WBEL, or if you still want the latest technology try Ubuntu/Kubuntu with releases each October and April with the latest, and has few if any feature changes within the support life. Read the docs closely, like FC they're not for everyone. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From gilboad at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 16:16:49 2006 From: gilboad at gmail.com (Gilboa Davara) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:16:49 +0200 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <1139069809.7617.2.camel@gilboa-home-dev.localhost> On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 08:11 +0800, John Summerfied wrote: > Orion Poplawski wrote: > > Alexander Dalloz wrote: > > > >> Hi fellows, > >> > >> I like to ask about the process of KDE updates. We are actually seeing > >> KDE 3.5.1-0.1.fc4 updates hitting the server. As far as I see these FC4 > >> updates never appeared in the updates-testing repository. This was also > >> the case with previous KDE updates - last KDE update from 17th December > >> brought us then a following kdelibs update on 22th Dec., fixing an issue > >> from the kdelibs update of 17th. > >> > >> I think maintainers do not have to use the testing repository before > >> pushing Core updates. But shouldn't it be mandatory for such package > >> groups like KDE? > >> > >> Alexander > > > > > > I have to say that I'm starting to get frustrated with this as well. I > > used to complain that there were no KDE updates within a release, but > > now that it happens, I generally wish it wouldn't. It has caused a > > The joys of a rolling beta:-) > > If you don't like the way Fedora works, try RHEL or its clones such as > Centos, WBEL, or if you still want the latest technology try > Ubuntu/Kubuntu with releases each October and April with the latest, and > has few if any feature changes within the support life. > > Read the docs closely, like FC they're not for everyone. > Umm... far from it. FC5 has rawhide, test1, 2 and 3 before the final release. KDE-RedHat (KDE for Fedora project) has unstable, testing and stable. There's no reason to make KDE/FC a special case were packages are rolled directly into updates without being tested in update-testing. Gilboa From benjy.grogan at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 16:51:12 2006 From: benjy.grogan at gmail.com (Benjy Grogan) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:51:12 -0500 Subject: XGL In-Reply-To: <43E15BEF.3070405@mharris.ca> References: <43E15BEF.3070405@mharris.ca> Message-ID: Alright. Thanks for the info. I'm looking forward to some of these future X technologies. Is there a good source of information somewhere about the architecture of X11 R7.0? As well as some of these technologies being developed by RedHat and Sun? At the moment I'm only aware of Novell's work on X. It's going to be interesting to see how Fedora and other distributions turn out in the next few years. Best of luck to you guys. Benji On 2/1/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > Benjy Grogan wrote: > > I hear that in a week or so Novell will be releasing the source code to > > XGL for X11 7.0. Will it be possible to have XGL available in Extras > > for FC5? I'm guessing it's one of those new X11 modules that v7.0 is > > all about. But I know little about XGL and would like to test it out to > > know more. It's going to be in NLD 10 in a few months. > > There are a lot of X related "goodies" that are up and coming in the > X development world, including technologies being developed by Red Hat, > Novell, Sun, and various others in the community. The current plan for > Fedora Core 5, is to ship X11R7.0 as the official X implementation, > including the Xorg X server. > > The various developmental/experimental technologies being developed > by the above parties will most likely be available to Fedora users in > one form or another over time, however everything is quite experimental > at the current point in time to make any solid speculation for the > inclusion of other components into Fedora Core 5 at this time. > > Either way, anything not included in Core, will very likely either > end up in Fedora Extras, or rpm packaged in some other experimental > repository, making it available for Fedora users to play with. > > Keep in mind, both end users and developers alike are equally > anticipating the various new eye-candy technologies, and the X.Org > community is pretty close knit. 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I also very much hope that this will be an opportunity for re-assessing the relevance of March 15 as the release date for FC5-final, which I see a the worst possible choice in March, given the following release dates: March 15 GNOME-2.14, koffice-1.5 March 17 KDE-3.5.2 These would make Fecora Core 5 labeled as both "obsolete" and "unstable" if it ships an old KDE and a development version of GCC and GNOME. I care about general users and public perception here, since I am among the rare users that do not depend on any of the packaged desktops in Fedora Core (I do not use GNOME and I package KDE on my own). I am also very concerned about the delay in the release of GCC-4.1 (no release candidate yet), expecting FC5-final to include a compiler that has a wide level of exposure to testing. Having GCC-4.1-cvs-xxx would make users uncomfortable, and without bringing back the old RedHat ghost of gcc-2.96, I remind you that FC4 was released with a compiler blacklisted by the KDE project, which incidentally was one of the reasons for me and my institution to skip FC4 altogether and stay with FC3 until FC5 is released. So please take the time to think about this. Fedora Core can be leading edge with less bleeding. Best regards, Philippe Rigault From tjb at unh.edu Sat Feb 4 17:10:31 2006 From: tjb at unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 12:10:31 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <20060204153122.GI23057@vianova.fi> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <1138826048.21981.3.camel@zero.sr.unh.edu> <1138827482.8034.13.camel@gargon.hooperlab> <1138848452.3288.2.camel@continuity> <20060204153122.GI23057@vianova.fi> Message-ID: <1139073032.3325.4.camel@intrepid> On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 17:31 +0200, Ville Herva wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:47:32PM -0500, you [Thomas J. Baker] wrote: > > > > This should be x86_64 compatible although I don't have any broken x86_64 > > systems to test it on! > > > > rpm -e --justdb --nodeps $RPM > > Why --justdb? > > Suppose I have these installed: > > nut-client-2.0.0-1.cr2 > nut-client-2.0.2-6 > > doesn't "rpm -e --justdb nut-client-2.0.0-1.cr2" leave the files from old > package that the new one did not replace hanging around (and very hard to > track down and weed)? > > I've been using this to list the duplicates: > > rpm -aq --queryformat "%{NAME}\n" | sort | uniq -c | grep -v -E " *1 " > > and something like this: > > for i in $(rpm -aq --queryformat "%{NAME}\n" | sort | > uniq -c | grep -v -E " *1 " | gawk '{print $2}'); do > rpm -e --nodeps $(rpm -q $i |head --lines=-1) > done > > to remove them. I'm not sure if that's any better than yours. > > I guess "rpm -V $package" is a good idea after "rpm -e " and I've even > done "rpm -i --force " to be sure (after removing duplicate glibc's > etc). -V hasn't usually reported problems, though. > > And yes, this is often needed. Just yesterday, yum update from rawhide > decided to update around 200 package. It churned the harddisk led for ages > and then went on updating. It didn't take particularry much memory or > anything, and everything seemed normal. But after installing ~30 packages, > it just quit quietly. No errors or anything. Yum didn't run the cleanup > stage at all, so I had 30 duplicate packages installed. > > Trying to rerun yum update caused its memory usage to skyrocket and it > brought the whole system to its knees. Mouse moved every minute or so, and > eventually kernel OOM rambo killed yum (after slaughtering 10 or so innocent > processes, bleah) which restored the box back to life. I had to manually rpm > -F the packages from /var/cache/yum/development/packages and then weed out > the 30 duplicates. > > The "yum quits silenly in install stage" problem has happened at least three > times for me, usually when the rawhide update has been large due to few > days' delay in updating. > > Couldn't yum clean up more often (even after installing each package)? It > would be nice if yum could somehow slice the large updates to something it > can swallow without breaking, but I guess that's more complicated. > > > -- v -- > > v at iki.fi > I use justdb because in all my cases, it seems the new rpm is really installed but the old one is not erased from the database. After erasing, my script then verifies the newer rpm to make sure it is really installed so it is a good idea to keep an eye on the results. tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb at unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | ======================================================================= From pbrobinson at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 17:27:09 2006 From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 17:27:09 +0000 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <200602041157.17339.prigault@oricom.ca> References: <200602041157.17339.prigault@oricom.ca> Message-ID: <5256d0b0602040927r5d9566cr69782b032145f4fd@mail.gmail.com> > I add my voice to the list of users that care more about quality than strict > adherence to arbitrary dates. > > I also very much hope that this will be an opportunity for re-assessing the > relevance of March 15 as the release date for FC5-final, which I see a the > worst possible choice in March, given the following release dates: > March 15 GNOME-2.14, koffice-1.5 > March 17 KDE-3.5.2 > > These would make Fecora Core 5 labeled as both "obsolete" and "unstable" if it > ships an old KDE and a development version of GCC and GNOME. I care about > general users and public perception here, since I am among the rare users > that do not depend on any of the packaged desktops in Fedora Core (I do not > use GNOME and I package KDE on my own). > > I am also very concerned about the delay in the release of GCC-4.1 (no release > candidate yet), expecting FC5-final to include a compiler that has a wide > level of exposure to testing. Having GCC-4.1-cvs-xxx would make users > uncomfortable, and without bringing back the old RedHat ghost of gcc-2.96, I > remind you that FC4 was released with a compiler blacklisted by the KDE > project, which incidentally was one of the reasons for me and my institution > to skip FC4 altogether and stay with FC3 until FC5 is released. > > So please take the time to think about this. Fedora Core can be leading edge > with less bleeding. It wouldn't be the first time that a developmental compiler/glibc has been shipped with a RHL/Fedora release. I remember all the way back in RH5 when they were the first to upgrade from libc to glibc and I think it was RHL7 time frame where they shipped one or two releases with the totally unsupported by anyone else unofficial 2.96 gcc compiler. What it comes down to is someone has to do wide spread testinf these type of new major releases of core technologies and Fedora is suppose to be bleeding edge. If you want something more stable go for RHEL or one of the dirivitives of it. I have generally found the gcc4.1 bineries quite stable and although I've had problems with some of the other bits such as some issues with gnome and evo and others I think FC5 should be a rocking release with lots of optimisations in gnome etc to make it great. Peter From vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl Sat Feb 4 17:34:53 2006 From: vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl (Horst von Brand) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 14:34:53 -0300 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: Message from Jeremy Katz of "Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:39:47 CDT." <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <200602041734.k14HYr2C006710@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> Jeremy Katz wrote: > Although I hate to do it, it looks like we're going to have to slip > Fedora Core 5 test3 by a week. There is an ABI change in the gcc/glibc > stack that requires a rebuild of the entire distribution. May I ask what the change is, and how it affects stuff? ABI changes in C are scary... -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513 From cjones at patriot.net Sat Feb 4 17:50:08 2006 From: cjones at patriot.net (cjones at patriot.net) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 12:50:08 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes (touch errors) In-Reply-To: <200602032314.16635.cjones@patriot.net> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <20060204021956.GE25076@redhat.com> <200602032314.16635.cjones@patriot.net> Message-ID: <200602041250.08188.cjones@patriot.net> On Friday 03 February 2006 23:14, Claude Jones wrote: > On Fri February 3 2006 9:19 pm, Dave Jones wrote: > > x86-64 ? If so, yes. > > > > ????????????????Dave > > Doesn't ring a bell. I'll post them tomorrow when I'm back in the office. > Thanks. Here's what I've got rpm -qa | grep glibc glibc-devel-2.3.90-30 glibc-devel-2.3.90-34 glibc-2.3.90-34 glibc-2.3.90-30 glibc-common-2.3.90-34 -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA From davej at redhat.com Sat Feb 4 18:01:00 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:01:00 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes (touch errors) In-Reply-To: <200602041250.08188.cjones@patriot.net> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <20060204021956.GE25076@redhat.com> <200602032314.16635.cjones@patriot.net> <200602041250.08188.cjones@patriot.net> Message-ID: <20060204180100.GD3397@redhat.com> On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 12:50:08PM -0500, cjones at patriot.net wrote: > On Friday 03 February 2006 23:14, Claude Jones wrote: > > On Fri February 3 2006 9:19 pm, Dave Jones wrote: > > > x86-64 ? If so, yes. > > > > > > ????????????????Dave > > > > Doesn't ring a bell. I'll post them tomorrow when I'm back in the office. > > Thanks. > Here's what I've got > > rpm -qa | grep glibc > glibc-devel-2.3.90-30 > glibc-devel-2.3.90-34 > glibc-2.3.90-34 > glibc-2.3.90-30 > glibc-common-2.3.90-34 I'll ask again. Is this an x86-64 ? If so, having two glibc's is normal. Dave From dennis at ausil.us Sat Feb 4 18:09:15 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 12:09:15 -0600 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes (touch errors) In-Reply-To: <200602041250.08188.cjones@patriot.net> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200602032314.16635.cjones@patriot.net> <200602041250.08188.cjones@patriot.net> Message-ID: <200602041209.37830.dennis@ausil.us> Once upon a time Saturday 04 February 2006 11:50 am, cjones at patriot.net wrote: > On Friday 03 February 2006 23:14, Claude Jones wrote: > > On Fri February 3 2006 9:19 pm, Dave Jones wrote: > > > x86-64 ? If so, yes. > > > > > > ????????????????Dave > > > > Doesn't ring a bell. I'll post them tomorrow when I'm back in the office. > > Thanks. > > Here's what I've got > > rpm -qa | grep glibc > glibc-devel-2.3.90-30 > glibc-devel-2.3.90-34 > glibc-2.3.90-34 > glibc-2.3.90-30 > glibc-common-2.3.90-34 if its an x86-64 box its normal try the command bellow rpm -qa --queryformat="%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n" |grep glibc glibc-common-2.3.5-10.3.x86_64 glibc-headers-2.3.5-10.3.x86_64 glibc-utils-2.3.5-10.3.x86_64 glibc-kernheaders-2.4-9.1.95.x86_64 glibc-2.3.5-10.3.i686 glibc-2.3.5-10.3.x86_64 glibc-profile-2.3.5-10.3.x86_64 glibc-devel-2.3.5-10.3.x86_64 -- Dennis Gilmore, RHCE http://www.ausil.us Proud Australian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll post them tomorrow when I'm back in the office. > > > Thanks. > > Here's what I've got > > > > rpm -qa | grep glibc > > glibc-devel-2.3.90-30 > > glibc-devel-2.3.90-34 > > glibc-2.3.90-34 > > glibc-2.3.90-30 > > glibc-common-2.3.90-34 > > I'll ask again. Is this an x86-64 ? If so, having two glibc's is normal. > > Dave Agreed, but shouldn't they be the same version in the case of an x86_64 install? I'll have to check my devel boot here sometime. Jonathan From jkeating at j2solutions.net Sat Feb 4 18:15:54 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:15:54 -0800 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <200602041157.17339.prigault@oricom.ca> References: <200602041157.17339.prigault@oricom.ca> Message-ID: <1139076954.3188.8.camel@yoda.loki.me> On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 11:57 -0500, Philippe Rigault wrote: > > I also very much hope that this will be an opportunity for re-assessing the > relevance of March 15 as the release date for FC5-final, which I see a the > worst possible choice in March, given the following release dates: > March 15 GNOME-2.14, koffice-1.5 > March 17 KDE-3.5.2 > Unfortunately large changes such as the ones above would generally require another test release before making it final. We're trying to get all our major changes in before test3 so that the time between test3 and final is spent fixing all the BUGS found in test3 rather than introducing more new software and more new bugs. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From chabotc at xs4all.nl Sat Feb 4 18:33:42 2006 From: chabotc at xs4all.nl (Chris Chabot) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:33:42 +0100 Subject: Whats the status of dmraid being usable in the anaconda installer? Message-ID: <1139078023.1892.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> In a week or so expecting a shiney new system, and it comes pre-configured with (nvidia nforce) sata raid0, and i was wondering if i need to prepare myself for reinstalling the entire thing to remove the raid for use with FC5, or if anaconda now detects it properly thru dmraid.. The only status i've been able to find is: "Anaconda in Fedora Core 4 doesn't do this; it's a planned feature which I'm working on for FC5." from https://www.redhat.com/archives/ataraid-list/2005-July/msg00010.html And "Due date: ??" on: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Future Anyone have the skinny on what the real status is? I've seen quite a few mentions of dmraid in the anaconda's changelog, so i'm carefully hopefull :-) -- Chris -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks. > > > > Here's what I've got > > > > rpm -qa | grep glibc > > glibc-devel-2.3.90-30 > > glibc-devel-2.3.90-34 > > glibc-2.3.90-34 > > glibc-2.3.90-30 > > glibc-common-2.3.90-34 > > I'll ask again. Is this an x86-64 ? If so, having two glibc's is normal. > > Dave Sorry, I blocked on your question. No, it's definitely not an x86-64 machine. -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 19:12:26 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:12:26 -0600 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes (touch errors) In-Reply-To: <200602041336.56218.cjones@patriot.net> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200602041250.08188.cjones@patriot.net> <20060204180100.GD3397@redhat.com> <200602041336.56218.cjones@patriot.net> Message-ID: <8767947e0602041112n4f16615dx35f42cf8e8019dc7@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/06, Claude Jones wrote: > On Saturday 04 February 2006 13:01, Dave Jones wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 12:50:08PM -0500, cjones at patriot.net wrote: > > > On Friday 03 February 2006 23:14, Claude Jones wrote: > > > > On Fri February 3 2006 9:19 pm, Dave Jones wrote: > > > > > x86-64 ? If so, yes. > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > Doesn't ring a bell. I'll post them tomorrow when I'm back in the > > > > office. Thanks. > > > > > > Here's what I've got > > > > > > rpm -qa | grep glibc > > > glibc-devel-2.3.90-30 > > > glibc-devel-2.3.90-34 > > > glibc-2.3.90-34 > > > glibc-2.3.90-30 > > > glibc-common-2.3.90-34 > > > > I'll ask again. Is this an x86-64 ? If so, having two glibc's is normal. > > > > Dave > > Sorry, I blocked on your question. No, it's definitely not an x86-64 machine. I'm seeing a similar thing on my x86_64 box: # rpm -qa | grep glibc | sort glibc-2.3.90-30.i686 glibc-2.3.90-30.x86_64 glibc-2.3.90-34.i686 glibc-2.3.90-34.x86_64 glibc-common-2.3.90-30.x86_64 glibc-common-2.3.90-34.x86_64 glibc-devel-2.3.90-30.i386 glibc-devel-2.3.90-30.x86_64 glibc-devel-2.3.90-34.i386 glibc-devel-2.3.90-34.x86_64 glibc-headers-2.3.90-30.x86_64 glibc-headers-2.3.90-34.x86_64 glibc-kernheaders-3.0-4.x86_64 I have both versions for both architectures, heh. The update that pulled in the 2.3.90-34 versions went rather rough. I had to constantly go kill off gcj-dbtool because otherwise yum would just sit there. I guess there is no telling what might be broken as a result of that... Jonathan From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Sat Feb 4 19:30:44 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:30:44 +0000 Subject: Whats the status of dmraid being usable in the anaconda installer? In-Reply-To: <1139078023.1892.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1139078023.1892.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43E500E4.3000802@adslpipe.co.uk> Chris Chabot wrote: > In a week or so expecting a shiney new system, and it comes > pre-configured with (nvidia nforce) sata raid0, and i was wondering if i > need to prepare myself for reinstalling the entire thing to remove the > raid for use with FC5, or if anaconda now detects it properly thru > dmraid.. There were some bugs in it last time I tried it, recently they have been closed as "fixed" in rawhide, I haven't had chance to wipe and re-install my system since then so I can't say if works for me or not yet, but worth a try ... From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Sat Feb 4 19:33:55 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:33:55 +0000 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes (touch errors) In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602041112n4f16615dx35f42cf8e8019dc7@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com><200602041250.08188.cjones@patriot.net><20060204180100.GD3397@redhat.com><200602041336.56218.cjones@patriot.net> <8767947e0602041112n4f16615dx35f42cf8e8019dc7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E501A3.3010508@adslpipe.co.uk> Jonathan Berry wrote: > I had to > constantly go kill off gcj-dbtool because otherwise yum would just sit > there. Last time I updated I joked about automating it, today I actually did while true; do sleep 1; killall gcj-dbtool; done it worked a treat :-) > I guess there is no telling what might be broken as a result > of that... Yes I worry about the future implications too, suppose at worst I can just uninstall all java packages and re-install them ... From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 19:58:51 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:58:51 -0600 Subject: updating and gcj-dbtool [was: rawhide report: 20060203 changes (touch errors)] Message-ID: <8767947e0602041158u5a732378t93c9a4cf6ff07bb7@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/06, Andy Burns wrote: > Jonathan Berry wrote: > > I had to > > constantly go kill off gcj-dbtool because otherwise yum would just sit > > there. > > Last time I updated I joked about automating it, today I actually did > > while true; do sleep 1; killall gcj-dbtool; done > > it worked a treat :-) Yep, esentially what I did : ). I'm having to do it now with current updates. Things do not seem to be getting better here. Any ideas on what can be done for this? Debugging, bug reports, etc? > > I guess there is no telling what might be broken as a result > > of that... > > Yes I worry about the future implications too, suppose at worst I can > just uninstall all java packages and re-install them ... Could be worth a try. I do not know what all gcj-dbtool does, so the impact of it not doing what it should could potentially be further reaching. Jonathan From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Sat Feb 4 20:20:30 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 20:20:30 +0000 Subject: updating and gcj-dbtool [was: rawhide report: 20060203 changes(touch errors)] In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602041158u5a732378t93c9a4cf6ff07bb7@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0602041158u5a732378t93c9a4cf6ff07bb7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E50C8E.7020105@adslpipe.co.uk> Jonathan Berry wrote: > Any ideas on what can be done for this? Debugging, bug reports, etc? The thinking seems to be that threading (or was it mutex) changes in the kernel broke java, there is at least one bug open for it, others might have been dupe'd to it now ... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179228 it's been marked as an FC5 blocker > I do not know what all gcj-dbtool does I think it keeps a catalogue of class files and equivalent .so files compile to native code, something like that ... From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 4 20:22:57 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 15:22:57 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes (touch errors) In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602041112n4f16615dx35f42cf8e8019dc7@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200602041250.08188.cjones@patriot.net> <20060204180100.GD3397@redhat.com> <200602041336.56218.cjones@patriot.net> <8767947e0602041112n4f16615dx35f42cf8e8019dc7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E50D21.7060804@insight.rr.com> Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 2/4/06, Claude Jones wrote: >> On Saturday 04 February 2006 13:01, Dave Jones wrote: >>> On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 12:50:08PM -0500, cjones at patriot.net wrote: >>> > On Friday 03 February 2006 23:14, Claude Jones wrote: >>> > > On Fri February 3 2006 9:19 pm, Dave Jones wrote: >>> > > > x86-64 ? If so, yes. >>> > > > >>> > > > Dave >>> > > >>> > > Doesn't ring a bell. I'll post them tomorrow when I'm back in the >>> > > office. Thanks. >>> > >>> > Here's what I've got >>> > >>> > rpm -qa | grep glibc >>> > glibc-devel-2.3.90-30 >>> > glibc-devel-2.3.90-34 >>> > glibc-2.3.90-34 >>> > glibc-2.3.90-30 >>> > glibc-common-2.3.90-34 >>> >>> I'll ask again. Is this an x86-64 ? If so, having two glibc's is normal. >>> >>> Dave >> Sorry, I blocked on your question. No, it's definitely not an x86-64 machine. > > I'm seeing a similar thing on my x86_64 box: > # rpm -qa | grep glibc | sort > glibc-2.3.90-30.i686 > glibc-2.3.90-30.x86_64 > glibc-2.3.90-34.i686 > glibc-2.3.90-34.x86_64 > glibc-common-2.3.90-30.x86_64 > glibc-common-2.3.90-34.x86_64 > glibc-devel-2.3.90-30.i386 > glibc-devel-2.3.90-30.x86_64 > glibc-devel-2.3.90-34.i386 > glibc-devel-2.3.90-34.x86_64 > glibc-headers-2.3.90-30.x86_64 > glibc-headers-2.3.90-34.x86_64 > glibc-kernheaders-3.0-4.x86_64 > > I have both versions for both architectures, heh. The update that > pulled in the 2.3.90-34 versions went rather rough. I had to > constantly go kill off gcj-dbtool because otherwise yum would just sit > there. I guess there is no telling what might be broken as a result > of that... > > Jonathan > So was a bug report made regarding gcj-dbtool? I do not have this program installed and did not suffer the wrath from the package lockup. Killing yum in process during the installation phase will result in no cleanup after install. Probably packages downloaded to upgrade and were not upgraded because of the kill were never installed. Packages before gcj-dbtool probably only have multiple version entries in the rpmdb and are probably only entries for the earlier program on your system and the database entries for the older version need only to be erased. Verifying the later packages is still a good idea to ensure that all of the new packages are intact. Jim -- The person who can smile when something goes wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 20:41:35 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 14:41:35 -0600 Subject: FC5T2 issues with GLUT In-Reply-To: <8767947e0601291400t97c4bcdm2fef5df0ebe791e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0601291400t97c4bcdm2fef5df0ebe791e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602041241l2a906f84p1d038541b2429e7b@mail.gmail.com> On 1/29/06, Jonathan Berry wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm taking a class on computer graphics and we are using GLUT to > develop OpenGL programs. There seems to be a problem with GLUT on > FC5T2 x86_64 (currently updated). Compiling a simple OpenGL program > with GLUT and running it produces: > $ ./gltest > ./gltest: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot > enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied > Disabling SELinux yields: > $ ./gltest > freeglut (./gltest): ERROR: Internal error capabilities not found> in function fgOpenWindow > X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > Major opcode of failed request: 4 (X_DestroyWindow) > Resource id in failed request: 0x0 > Serial number of failed request: 16 > Current serial number in output stream: 19 Well, I still have the same issues with SELinux enabled as above, but the new version of GLUT gives a more meaningful error (a definite improvement) with SELinux disabled: $ ./gltest freeglut (./gltest): OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' $ rpm -qa freeglut freeglut-2.4.0-3.i386 freeglut-2.4.0-3.x86_64 I have an nVidia 6600 GT graphics card, but am only running the nv driver. Still, I have run similar GLUT programs on machines with no hardware acceleration, so it seems like some software stuff should kick in (as well, the programs are 2D only). Why is this (software rendering) not happening here? I tried late last night to get the binary nvidia driver installed without much success to see if it would work then. At first it wouldn't compile, then I get the latest patch and it seemed to install, but X refused to start. It was late, so I didn't pursue it very far. Has anyone successfully installed the nvidia driver? I may try again later. I did reinstall the mesa rpms after trying this to make sure nothing got clobbered. Jonathan From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 20:51:03 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 14:51:03 -0600 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes (touch errors) In-Reply-To: <43E50D21.7060804@insight.rr.com> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200602041250.08188.cjones@patriot.net> <20060204180100.GD3397@redhat.com> <200602041336.56218.cjones@patriot.net> <8767947e0602041112n4f16615dx35f42cf8e8019dc7@mail.gmail.com> <43E50D21.7060804@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602041251m547f18d2t9b9eed8b30eb65e4@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/06, Jim Cornette wrote: > Jonathan Berry wrote: > > I'm seeing a similar thing on my x86_64 box: > > # rpm -qa | grep glibc | sort > > glibc-2.3.90-30.i686 > > glibc-2.3.90-30.x86_64 > > glibc-2.3.90-34.i686 > > glibc-2.3.90-34.x86_64 > > glibc-common-2.3.90-30.x86_64 > > glibc-common-2.3.90-34.x86_64 > > glibc-devel-2.3.90-30.i386 > > glibc-devel-2.3.90-30.x86_64 > > glibc-devel-2.3.90-34.i386 > > glibc-devel-2.3.90-34.x86_64 > > glibc-headers-2.3.90-30.x86_64 > > glibc-headers-2.3.90-34.x86_64 > > glibc-kernheaders-3.0-4.x86_64 > > > > I have both versions for both architectures, heh. The update that > > pulled in the 2.3.90-34 versions went rather rough. I had to > > constantly go kill off gcj-dbtool because otherwise yum would just sit > > there. I guess there is no telling what might be broken as a result > > of that... > > > > Jonathan > > The newest glibc update must have cleaned all of this up as I no longer have multiple versions (only multiple arch as I should :)). $ rpm -qa | grep glibc glibc-2.3.90-35.i686 glibc-common-2.3.90-35.x86_64 glibc-devel-2.3.90-35.i386 glibc-2.3.90-35.x86_64 glibc-headers-2.3.90-35.x86_64 glibc-kernheaders-3.0-4.x86_64 glibc-devel-2.3.90-35.x86_64 > So was a bug report made regarding gcj-dbtool? I do not have this > program installed and did not suffer the wrath from the package lockup. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179228 Seems to be another symptom of the same bug. > Killing yum in process during the installation phase will result in no > cleanup after install. Probably packages downloaded to upgrade and were Actually, it is not yum that I killed, it was gcj-dbtool itself. It seems to get run after updating packages that have to do with java, so it was running and causing yum to hang. Killing it allows yum to go on, but obviously doesn't do all that it was supposed to for that package. > not upgraded because of the kill were never installed. Packages before > gcj-dbtool probably only have multiple version entries in the rpmdb and gcj-dbtool wasn't being upgraded, but rather was being used in one of the install scriptlets for doing some java stuff. > are probably only entries for the earlier program on your system and the > database entries for the older version need only to be erased. Verifying > the later packages is still a good idea to ensure that all of the new > packages are intact. Jonathan From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 21:02:53 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 15:02:53 -0600 Subject: updating and gcj-dbtool [was: rawhide report: 20060203 changes(touch errors)] In-Reply-To: <43E50C8E.7020105@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <8767947e0602041158u5a732378t93c9a4cf6ff07bb7@mail.gmail.com> <43E50C8E.7020105@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <8767947e0602041302j201d7942sd23aafffad00e4fe@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/06, Andy Burns wrote: > Jonathan Berry wrote: > > > Any ideas on what can be done for this? Debugging, bug reports, etc? > > The thinking seems to be that threading (or was it mutex) changes in the > kernel broke java, there is at least one bug open for it, others might > have been dupe'd to it now ... > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179228 > it's been marked as an FC5 blocker Thanks, Andy. Yeah, I remember reading some about that. I guess I was hoping the threading/mutex stuff had gotten cleared up. This certainly should be a show stopper and I'm sure it will be fun to track down. Debugging threaded stuff is fun... It appears to affect other things as well, eg mono apps. > > I do not know what all gcj-dbtool does > > I think it keeps a catalogue of class files and equivalent .so files > compile to native code, something like that ... Makes sense. So it is probably safe to say it (gcj-dbtool) just affects java and related stuff (eclipse, etc). Jonathan From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 4 21:12:27 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:12:27 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <1139073032.3325.4.camel@intrepid> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <1138826048.21981.3.camel@zero.sr.unh.edu> <1138827482.8034.13.camel@gargon.hooperlab> <1138848452.3288.2.camel@continuity> <20060204153122.GI23057@vianova.fi> <1139073032.3325.4.camel@intrepid> Message-ID: <43E518BB.60204@insight.rr.com> Thomas J. Baker wrote: > >> >> I've been using this to list the duplicates: >> >> rpm -aq --queryformat "%{NAME}\n" | sort | uniq -c | grep -v -E " *1 " This script works great! I added this to my tool arsenal. There were many instances where this would be needed information. Thanks! ~/find-dupes.sh 2 gpg-pubkey 2 kernel 2 kernel-devel >> >> and something like this: >> >> for i in $(rpm -aq --queryformat "%{NAME}\n" | sort | >> uniq -c | grep -v -E " *1 " | gawk '{print $2}'); do >> rpm -e --nodeps $(rpm -q $i |head --lines=-1) >> done What will happen for the kernel and gpg-pubkey? >> >> to remove them. I'm not sure if that's any better than yours. >> >> I guess "rpm -V $package" is a good idea after "rpm -e " and I've even >> done "rpm -i --force " to be sure (after removing duplicate glibc's >> etc). -V hasn't usually reported problems, though. What about Upgrading using --replacefiles --replacepkgs instead of using install and --force? This worked for me when trying to make programs verify. >> >> And yes, this is often needed. Just yesterday, yum update from rawhide >> decided to update around 200 package. It churned the harddisk led for ages >> and then went on updating. It didn't take particularry much memory or >> anything, and everything seemed normal. But after installing ~30 packages, >> it just quit quietly. No errors or anything. Yum didn't run the cleanup >> stage at all, so I had 30 duplicate packages installed. %post errors are also a problem. This check to verify the integrity of the package installations would probably make a good item to add for system reports. Running the check-duplicates is fast and easy enough though. >> >> Trying to rerun yum update caused its memory usage to skyrocket and it >> brought the whole system to its knees. Mouse moved every minute or so, and >> eventually kernel OOM rambo killed yum (after slaughtering 10 or so innocent >> processes, bleah) which restored the box back to life. I had to manually rpm >> -F the packages from /var/cache/yum/development/packages and then weed out >> the 30 duplicates. Killing processes to make room for runaway processes seems to bad logic in my view. >> >> The "yum quits silently in install stage" problem has happened at least three >> times for me, usually when the rawhide update has been large due to few >> days' delay in updating. If this happens frequently and seems to only relate to multiple entries in the rpmdb, did you consider %post errors during package installation might be a problem? I have not seen too many yum exiting unexpectedly but have had %post scriptlet errors allowing yum to finish its process and exit. >> >> Couldn't yum clean up more often (even after installing each package)? It >> would be nice if yum could somehow slice the large updates to something it >> can swallow without breaking, but I guess that's more complicated. That is a lot excessive writing to the rpmdb file and a lot more chances for things to go wrong. I would favor a modification to your duplicates script for yum or a plugin to check for no duplicate packages other than kernel gpg-pubkeys with a way to add other packages that could have multiple versions installed to its ending process. I guess for i686 and 64-bit systems, expanded architecture information would give packages differentiation to not be considered duplicates but co-arch versions. >> >> >> -- v -- >> >> v at iki.fi >> > > I use justdb because in all my cases, it seems the new rpm is really > installed but the old one is not erased from the database. After > erasing, my script then verifies the newer rpm to make sure it is really > installed so it is a good idea to keep an eye on the results. I've seen the same. I assume that the older files are replaced by the newer version of the program. Is there a way to run a check for anything that is in /usr/bin which is not owned by any installed program? (other program directory locations also would be handy) > > tjb Jim -- The person who can smile when something goes wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. From brugolsky at telemetry-investments.com Sat Feb 4 21:24:51 2006 From: brugolsky at telemetry-investments.com (Bill Rugolsky Jr.) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 16:24:51 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <20060204212451.GA15094@ti64.telemetry-investments.com> On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 05:39:47PM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > Although I hate to do it, it looks like we're going to have to slip > Fedora Core 5 test3 by a week. There is an ABI change in the gcc/glibc > stack that requires a rebuild of the entire distribution. Silly question: what lists/irc-channels do I need to subscribe to in order to see the technical discussion of ABI changes? Is this discussed primarily on the main gcc/glibc mail lists, or is there a more focused discussion elsewhere? [Trying to drink from the firehose that is lkml is difficult enough ...] Also, it would be helpful to include (links to) ABI compatibility information in the Release Notes sections for gcc/glibc. Regards, Bill Rugolsky From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 4 21:29:13 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:29:13 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060203 changes (touch errors) In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602041251m547f18d2t9b9eed8b30eb65e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602031549.k13FnTaM006152@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <200602041250.08188.cjones@patriot.net> <20060204180100.GD3397@redhat.com> <200602041336.56218.cjones@patriot.net> <8767947e0602041112n4f16615dx35f42cf8e8019dc7@mail.gmail.com> <43E50D21.7060804@insight.rr.com> <8767947e0602041251m547f18d2t9b9eed8b30eb65e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E51CA9.2010104@insight.rr.com> Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 2/4/06, Jim Cornette wrote: > >> Killing yum in process during the installation phase will result in no >> cleanup after install. Probably packages downloaded to upgrade and were > > Actually, it is not yum that I killed, it was gcj-dbtool itself. It > seems to get run after updating packages that have to do with java, so > it was running and causing yum to hang. Killing it allows yum to go > on, but obviously doesn't do all that it was supposed to for that > package. Thanks for clarifying. > >> not upgraded because of the kill were never installed. Packages before >> gcj-dbtool probably only have multiple version entries in the rpmdb and > > gcj-dbtool wasn't being upgraded, but rather was being used in one of > the install scriptlets for doing some java stuff. New territory, I guess finding a better way for updating java related applications needs worked out. Jim > > Jonathan > From jakub at redhat.com Sat Feb 4 21:43:12 2006 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 16:43:12 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <20060204212451.GA15094@ti64.telemetry-investments.com> References: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> <20060204212451.GA15094@ti64.telemetry-investments.com> Message-ID: <20060204214312.GT24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 04:24:51PM -0500, Bill Rugolsky Jr. wrote: > On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 05:39:47PM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > Although I hate to do it, it looks like we're going to have to slip > > Fedora Core 5 test3 by a week. There is an ABI change in the gcc/glibc > > stack that requires a rebuild of the entire distribution. > > Silly question: what lists/irc-channels do I need to subscribe to in > order to see the technical discussion of ABI changes? Is this discussed > primarily on the main gcc/glibc mail lists, or is there a more focused > discussion elsewhere? [Trying to drink from the firehose that is lkml > is difficult enough ...] The former. Se e.g.: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2006-01/msg00016.html http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-hacker/2006-01/msg00061.html http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2006-01/msg01563.html http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2006-01/msg01953.html http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2006-01/msg01958.html etc. (many mails on all the 3 mailing lists). Jakub From bdc at carlstrom.com Sat Feb 4 21:48:23 2006 From: bdc at carlstrom.com (Brian D. Carlstrom) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:48:23 -0800 Subject: Problems with PowerMac 2.7GHz cooling with 2.6.15-1.1824_FC4 In-Reply-To: <20060120024618.18341.qmail@electricrain.com> References: <20060120024618.18341.qmail@electricrain.com> Message-ID: <17381.8487.549769.279758@zot.electricrain.com> Following up on my own post with more information. The therm_pm72 problem I reported against 2.6.15-1.1823_FC4 and 2.6.15-1.1824_FC4 still seems present after updating to the released 2.6.15-1.1830_FC4. I ended up applying the "powerpc: g5 thermal overtemp bug" patch from 2.6.15 to 2.6.14-1.1656_FC4 to fix the problem. /var/log/dmesg seems to give a hint of what is going wrong. here is output from five different configurations on 3 different kinds of hardware. The first is 2.6.15-1.1830_FC4 on dual 2.0GHz machine that do not have the liquid cooling pumps. As expected, no PUMP controls appear: PowerMac G5 Thermal control driver 1.2b2 Detected fan controls: 0: PWM fan, id 1, location: BACKSIDE,SYS CTRLR FAN 1: RPM fan, id 2, location: DRIVE BAY 2: PWM fan, id 2, location: SLOT,PCI FAN 3: RPM fan, id 3, location: CPU A INTAKE 4: RPM fan, id 4, location: CPU A EXHAUST p 5: RPM fan, id 5, location: CPU B INTAKE 6: RPM fan, id 6, location: CPU B EXHAUST The second output is 2.6.15-1.1830_FC4 on dual 2.5Ghz machine. These show the detection of the PUMP controls. These do not have any fan issues: PowerMac G5 Thermal control driver 1.2b2 Detected fan controls: 0: PWM fan, id 1, location: BACKSIDE,SYS CTRLR FAN 1: RPM fan, id 2, location: DRIVE BAY 2: PWM fan, id 2, location: SLOT,PCI FAN 3: RPM fan, id 3, location: CPU A INTAKE 4: RPM fan, id 4, location: CPU A EXHAUST 5: RPM fan, id 5, location: CPU B INTAKE 6: RPM fan, id 6, location: CPU B EXHAUST 7: RPM fan, id 1, location: CPU A PUMP 8: RPM fan, id 0, location: CPU B PUMP The third output is 2.6.15-1.1830_FC4 on dual 2.7Ghz machine. These show the detection of the PUMP controls. However, the fans are blaring full speed: PowerMac G5 Thermal control driver 1.2b2 Detected fan controls: 0: PWM fan, id 1, location: BACKSIDE,SYS CTRLR FAN 1: RPM fan, id 2, location: DRIVE BAY 2: PWM fan, id 2, location: SLOT,PCI FAN 3: RPM fan, id 3, location: CPU A INTAKE 4: RPM fan, id 4, location: CPU A EXHAUST 5: RPM fan, id 5, location: CPU B INTAKE 6: RPM fan, id 6, location: CPU B EXHAUST 7: RPM fan, id 1, location: CPU A PUMP 8: RPM fan, id 0, location: CPU B PUMP The fourth output is running the old 2.6.14-1.1656_FC4 on dual 2.7GHz machine. This was causing overheating on two machines because it lacks the patch. However, it does not have blaring fans. Note in addition to the PUMP lines, there is an extra message about "Liquid cooling pumps detected": PowerMac G5 Thermal control driver 1.2b2 Detected fan controls: 0: PWM fan, id 1, location: BACKSIDE,SYS CTRLR FAN 1: RPM fan, id 2, location: DRIVE BAY 2: PWM fan, id 2, location: SLOT,PCI FAN 3: RPM fan, id 3, location: CPU A INTAKE 4: RPM fan, id 4, location: CPU A EXHAUST 5: RPM fan, id 5, location: CPU B INTAKE 6: RPM fan, id 6, location: CPU B EXHAUST 7: RPM fan, id 1, location: CPU A PUMP 8: RPM fan, id 0, location: CPU B PUMP Liquid cooling pumps detected, using new algorithm ! The fifth output is running the old 2.6.14-1.1656_FC4.bdc with the therm_pm72 patch on dual 2.5Ghz machine. this does not overheat or have fan issues. Note it has the "Liquid cooling pumps detected, using new algorithm !" that is missing from the 1830 build: PowerMac G5 Thermal control driver 1.2b2 Detected fan controls: 0: PWM fan, id 1, location: BACKSIDE,SYS CTRLR FAN 1: RPM fan, id 2, location: DRIVE BAY 2: PWM fan, id 2, location: SLOT,PCI FAN 3: RPM fan, id 3, location: CPU A INTAKE 4: RPM fan, id 4, location: CPU A EXHAUST 5: RPM fan, id 5, location: CPU B INTAKE 6: RPM fan, id 6, location: CPU B EXHAUST 7: RPM fan, id 1, location: CPU A PUMP 8: RPM fan, id 0, location: CPU B PUMP Liquid cooling pumps detected, using new algorithm ! So I build a version of therm_pm72.c with #define DEBUG to see what I could learn. I also put in some DBG message of my own. The problem seems to be that therm_pm72_attach isn't get called with the "u3 0" adapter, since I see no "found U3-0" in the dmesg output, but only "Found K2". For now I'm going back to my own patched 2.6.14 kernel. -bri From vherva at viasys.com Sat Feb 4 22:19:51 2006 From: vherva at viasys.com (Ville Herva) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 00:19:51 +0200 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <43E518BB.60204@insight.rr.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <1138826048.21981.3.camel@zero.sr.unh.edu> <1138827482.8034.13.camel@gargon.hooperlab> <1138848452.3288.2.camel@continuity> <20060204153122.GI23057@vianova.fi> <1139073032.3325.4.camel@intrepid> <43E518BB.60204@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20060204221951.GB30967@vianova.fi> On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 04:12:27PM -0500, you [Jim Cornette] wrote: > >> > >>and something like this: > >> > >> for i in $(rpm -aq --queryformat "%{NAME}\n" | sort | > >> uniq -c | grep -v -E " *1 " | gawk '{print $2}'); do > >> rpm -e --nodeps $(rpm -q $i |head --lines=-1) > >> done > > What will happen for the kernel and gpg-pubkey? I should have made clearer that it really is *something* like that that I use - not *exactly* like that. The "something" part means I double check each package before I remove them, usually by something like for i in $(rpm -aq --queryformat "%{NAME}\n" | sort | uniq -c | grep -v -E " *1 " | gawk '{print $2}'); do echo rpm -e --nodeps $(rpm -q $i |head --lines=-1) done > to-be-removed and then "$EDITOR to-be-removed". > What about Upgrading using --replacefiles --replacepkgs instead of using > install and --force? This worked for me when trying to make programs verify. Might be a better idea. > >>eventually kernel OOM rambo killed yum (after slaughtering 10 or so > >>innocent > >>processes, bleah) which restored the box back to life. I had to manually > >>rpm > >>-F the packages from /var/cache/yum/development/packages and then weed out > >>the 30 duplicates. > > Killing processes to make room for runaway processes seems to bad logic > in my view. Tell me about it. The kernel OOM rambo has been like that since at least 2.2 times. Apparently, it is a really hard thing to get right judging from the pain kernel heavy-weights (like Andrea Arcangeli, Rik van Riel and Marcelo Tossatti) have invested in it and the relatively little progess that has been made. Perhaps I should disable over-commit. But Alan Cox might be the best person to comment on this...8-). > If this happens frequently and seems to only relate to multiple entries > in the rpmdb, did you consider %post errors during package installation > might be a problem? At least the unexpectedly interrupted "yum update" runs I have seen (and been able to scroll up to the beginning) have not had any 5opst% errors. > I have not seen too many yum exiting unexpectedly but have had %post > scriptlet errors allowing yum to finish its process and exit. I do admit that I often run "yum update" too seldom, which cause it to bite a huge multi-hundred package chunk that seems too much for it. > That is a lot excessive writing to the rpmdb file and a lot more chances > for things to go wrong. I would favor a modification to your duplicates > script for yum or a plugin to check for no duplicate packages other than > kernel gpg-pubkeys with a way to add other packages that could have > multiple versions installed to its ending process. I guess for i686 and > 64-bit systems, expanded architecture information would give packages > differentiation to not be considered duplicates but co-arch versions. Yes, apart from kernel and gpg-pubkeys, I think the dupe-checker mishandles x86/x86-64 but I don't have access to any box I could check that on. There may be other legal multiple version installs, too. > I've seen the same. I assume that the older files are replaced by the > newer version of the program. Is there a way to run a check for anything > that is in /usr/bin which is not owned by any installed program? (other > program directory locations also would be handy) Probably something like find /usr/bin | xargs rpm -qf | grep " is not owned by any package" -- v -- v at iki.fi From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Sat Feb 4 22:55:45 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 06:55:45 +0800 Subject: Apple Updates? In-Reply-To: <43E414B0.70507@redhat.com> References: <91f88ee20602031705h730240a1t681e63b88a7ea8ed@mail.gmail.com> <43E414B0.70507@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E530F1.5090300@herakles.homelinux.org> Pete Graner wrote: > 17" that I'm having the following issues with: > > Sound modules won't load > Once modules are loaded sound won't work: > Can only get X to run with FBDev not ati or radeon driver > Currently wireless both the BCM and airo drivers are hosed Airport is not going to work any time soon. Not even with ndiswrapper. If you want working (11g) wireless with Linux, best prospect is probably a wireless card labelled "atheros." d-link and netgear have such, but of course the nice OS X software configuration won't work with those. Probably they won't even work at all on OS X without some work. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From joelonlinux at optonline.net Sat Feb 4 23:19:59 2006 From: joelonlinux at optonline.net (Joel Rittvo) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:19:59 -0500 Subject: Wayward Battery Indicator Message-ID: <43E5369F.8060004@optonline.net> For the past few days, the battery indicator (from klaptop?) that is supposed to sit in the notification area of the KDE taskbar is instead locating itself at the extreme left side of the taskbar. What package do I file a bug against? From pgraner at redhat.com Sun Feb 5 00:14:24 2006 From: pgraner at redhat.com (Pete Graner) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:14:24 -0500 Subject: Apple Updates? In-Reply-To: <43E530F1.5090300@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <91f88ee20602031705h730240a1t681e63b88a7ea8ed@mail.gmail.com> <43E414B0.70507@redhat.com> <43E530F1.5090300@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <43E54360.5040302@redhat.com> John Summerfied wrote: > Pete Graner wrote: > >> 17" that I'm having the following issues with: >> >> Sound modules won't load >> Once modules are loaded sound won't work: >> Can only get X to run with FBDev not ati or radeon driver >> Currently wireless both the BCM and airo drivers are hosed > > Airport is not going to work any time soon. Not even with ndiswrapper. > If you want working (11g) wireless with Linux, best prospect is probably > a wireless card labelled "atheros." d-link and netgear have such, but of > course the nice OS X software configuration won't work with those. > Probably they won't even work at all on OS X without some work. > The airport extreme (bcm43xx) *does* work has worked in the past. Recently its gone to pot with newer kernels and Network Manager since wpa was added. I can get it to work by forcing the rate to 11Meg with our cisco gear at work at home it works at 54Meg. Pete > > > > > -- Pete Graner email: Senior Manager Office: 978.392.2476 Base OS Engineering Mobile: 910.391.7621 Red Hat Inc. http://www.redhat.com From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 5 01:15:46 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 12:15:46 +1100 Subject: Problems with FC5 test 2 In-Reply-To: <43DF16F8.2000006@gmx.de> References: <43DEAF71.2020600@gmail.com> <43DF16F8.2000006@gmx.de> Message-ID: <43E551C2.1070909@bigpond.net.au> shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: >Linuxer Wang wrote: > > >>1. Remote installation: I can't install FC5 test2 from a remote ftp >>server. The iso is for DVD. When I tried to connect, it responses: >>Unable to get the file ftp://192.168.10.1//fc5/repodata/repomd.xml. The >>file IS there, and can be accessed, so I wonder if it should be >>192.168.10.1/fc5/, not 192.168.10.1//fc5/? >> >> >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178241#c2 >ppc hdinst iso - failure: repodata/repomd.xml >i386 hdinst iso - failure: repodata/repomd.xml >? ftp/dvd-iso - unable to get the file ftp://..../repodata/repomd.xml >? netinst ? - Fedora/repodata/ Fedora/disc1/repodata/ > > >it seems that anaconda has some problems with repodata/repomd.xml > > Can you check whether a command line ftp to the location works OK and that the file is listed and retrievable ? When I had similar trouble, I ran ethereal on the ftp server, and was able to find what path the remote client was really asking for... pointing to permissions and other misconfiguring I had done to the server. From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 5 01:47:20 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 17:47:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: tell yum not to remove original kernel Message-ID: <20060205014720.92717.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> Dear All, I have two machines running FC5T2 and one of the machines I have fast connection and on the other I am on dialup. I want to update to the latest test kernel 2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 I believe on the dialup machine to test some software that only runs on the default kernel [tonio at localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 [tonio at localhost ~]$ and not on the updated kernels. On the computer with the fast connection, this kernel was removed. How can I keep this kernel on the dialup machine? I just need to do # yum install kernel kernel-devel but in the steps yum tells me to remove the default kernel which I cannot afford to do. TIA(Thanks in Advance) Antonio __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 02:09:23 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 21:09:23 -0500 Subject: tell yum not to remove original kernel In-Reply-To: <20060205014720.92717.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060205014720.92717.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602041809j56dfbb59h31a50b0ef4e76312@mail.gmail.com> On 2/4/06, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I just need to do > # yum install kernel kernel-devel > but in the steps yum tells me to remove the default > kernel which I cannot afford to do. disable the installonlyn plugin edit /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/installonlyn.conf enabled=0 -jef From justin.conover at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 02:09:35 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 20:09:35 -0600 Subject: tell yum not to remove original kernel In-Reply-To: <20060205014720.92717.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060205014720.92717.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 2/4/06, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Dear All, > I have two machines running FC5T2 and one of the > machines I have fast connection and on the other I am > on dialup. > > I want to update to the latest test kernel > 2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 I believe on the dialup machine to > test some software that only runs on the default > kernel > [tonio at localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > [tonio at localhost ~]$ > > and not on the updated kernels. On the computer with > the fast connection, this kernel was removed. How can > I keep this kernel on the dialup machine? > > I just need to do > # yum install kernel kernel-devel > but in the steps yum tells me to remove the default > kernel which I cannot afford to do. > > TIA(Thanks in Advance) > > Antonio > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > vi /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/installonlyn.conf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a.kurtz at hardsun.net Sun Feb 5 02:23:35 2006 From: a.kurtz at hardsun.net (Aaron Kurtz) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:23:35 -0800 Subject: tell yum not to remove original kernel In-Reply-To: <20060205014720.92717.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060205014720.92717.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1139106215.10032.9.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 17:47 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I just need to do > # yum install kernel kernel-devel > but in the steps yum tells me to remove the default > kernel which I cannot afford to do. The reason why it wants to remove the first kernel is the installonlyn plugin which was added to yum. Edit /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/installonlyn.conf -- Aaron Kurtz GPG ID: ED588CF2 From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 5 02:15:20 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 18:15:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: tell yum not to remove original kernel In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602041809j56dfbb59h31a50b0ef4e76312@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060205021520.16380.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> --- Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/4/06, Antonio Olivares > wrote: > > I just need to do > > # yum install kernel kernel-devel > > but in the steps yum tells me to remove the > default > > kernel which I cannot afford to do. > > disable the installonlyn plugin > edit /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/installonlyn.conf > enabled=0 > > -jef > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Thanks Jeff and Justin. You are the best. Best Regards, Antonio __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 5 02:48:01 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:48:01 +1100 Subject: Anyone been trying suspend on recent kernels? In-Reply-To: <43E4AC77.7070304@insight.rr.com> References: <43DA1F9F.9090306@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E43213.5040302@bigpond.net.au> <43E4AC77.7070304@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <43E56761.1080603@bigpond.net.au> Jim Cornette wrote: > David Timms wrote: > >> Andy Burns wrote: >> >> Do you happen to know if there is a GUI option to control what the >> lid switch does (ie just backlight off would be better for me!) ? >> > If you right click the power manager applet, there are three choices > for behavior to set for closing the lid. The choices are under the > actions tab. I just set mine to do nothing. The other choices are > hibernate or suspend. Suspend was chosen by default. > > Jim OK, thanks, I hadn't tried right clicking the power status icon; I also found access to the preferences in System|Preferences|More Preferences|Power Management. To get extra entries in these dialogs, I guess it would be best to submit enh requests at gnome-power.sourceforge.net, rather than buzilla.redhat ? DaveT. From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sun Feb 5 03:33:33 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 22:33:33 -0500 Subject: Anyone been trying suspend on recent kernels? In-Reply-To: <43E56761.1080603@bigpond.net.au> References: <43DA1F9F.9090306@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E43213.5040302@bigpond.net.au> <43E4AC77.7070304@insight.rr.com> <43E56761.1080603@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <43E5720D.7050009@insight.rr.com> David Timms wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> David Timms wrote: >> >>> Andy Burns wrote: >>> >>> Do you happen to know if there is a GUI option to control what the >>> lid switch does (ie just backlight off would be better for me!) ? >>> >> If you right click the power manager applet, there are three choices >> for behavior to set for closing the lid. The choices are under the >> actions tab. I just set mine to do nothing. The other choices are >> hibernate or suspend. Suspend was chosen by default. >> >> Jim > > OK, thanks, I hadn't tried right clicking the power status icon; I also > found access to the preferences in System|Preferences|More > Preferences|Power Management. Having different ways to access these features are nice to have. I believe you do not need the applet displayed and the above method would be needed to change settings. Thanks for pointing out this access method. > > To get extra entries in these dialogs, I guess it would be best to > submit enh requests at gnome-power.sourceforge.net, rather than > buzilla.redhat ? > DaveT. > I tried closing the lid with the "do nothing" choice and my backlight turned off and the computer still stayed on. Like you say, filing an RFE upstream would probably be best. But if the default is "do nothing" upstream, it would be better for a bugzilla.redhat entry. I would prefer the lid to do nothing by default to prevent accidents like you encountered and I encountered. Of course this suspend working with the lid shut would be great and I might enjoy having a quicker way to bring my system back up or extend the battery life for transport. I will probably experiment with hybernate and suspend since they may work at some point. Jim From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 5 05:22:55 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:22:55 +1100 Subject: Freecell will not launch In-Reply-To: <43E09D94.5050809@partha.com> References: <43E09D94.5050809@partha.com> Message-ID: <43E58BAF.3090603@bigpond.net.au> Partha Bagchi wrote: > sol --variation freecell > Backtrace: > In /usr/share/sol-games/freecell.scm: > 581: 0* (define kill-thread-mutex (make-mutex)) > 581: 1* (make-mutex) > > /usr/share/sol-games/freecell.scm:581:27: In expression (make-mutex): > /usr/share/sol-games/freecell.scm:581:27: Unbound variable: make-mutex see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177886 DaveT. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 5 05:41:57 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:41:57 +1100 Subject: Boot splashscreen missing function key list (2006-02-01) In-Reply-To: <1138849823.13084.0.camel@bree.local.net> References: <20060202030427.GA14091@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1138849823.13084.0.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43E59025.8020003@bigpond.net.au> Jeremy Katz wrote: >On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 22:04 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > > >>I've actually noticed this for a few weeks now, but the "function keys >>listed below" mentioned on the default screen are not there. >> >>Jut a nit that someone forgot to put them in the image. >> >> >They're actually there, just not very visible. It's filed and on my >list of things to look into (hopefully tomorrow-ish) > >Jeremy > > see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178033 The function key text is now visible with 2006-02-04 minstg2.img! From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Sun Feb 5 06:34:39 2006 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:34:39 -0500 Subject: Very slow screen refresh Message-ID: <1139121279.9905.19.camel@monster.camerontech.com> All - I am running FC5t2 x86_64 on an Intel D945PVS motherboard with an Intel 3.0GHz HT processor and 512MB memory. My video card is an nVidia GeForce FX 5200 with 128MB memory. My monitor is a Viewsonic VA201wb 19" LCD monitor. I am running at 1600x1200 resolution, thousands of colors. When I minimize an application window, say Firefox or Evolution, it takes a few seconds for my desktop to refresh. It is very odd. I didn't see this on the exact same hardware running RHEL. I've added myself to BZ 178518. Anyone else seeing this? Thomas From foster at in.tum.de Sun Feb 5 07:16:09 2006 From: foster at in.tum.de (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 08:16:09 +0100 Subject: Wayward Battery Indicator In-Reply-To: <43E5369F.8060004@optonline.net> References: <43E5369F.8060004@optonline.net> Message-ID: On 05/02/06, Joel Rittvo wrote: > For the past few days, the battery indicator (from klaptop?) that is > supposed to sit in the notification area of the KDE taskbar is instead > locating itself at the extreme left side of the taskbar. What package > do I file a bug against? I had it in the top-left corner of the screen yesterday, but it's in its right place this morning. I seem to remember something like this happening before. I think it's a bug in "kicker" (the KDE taskbar), which is in the "kdebase" package. (Haven't filed a bug yet ...) MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth) From vherva at viasys.com Sun Feb 5 08:41:48 2006 From: vherva at viasys.com (Ville Herva) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 10:41:48 +0200 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <43E518BB.60204@insight.rr.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <1138826048.21981.3.camel@zero.sr.unh.edu> <1138827482.8034.13.camel@gargon.hooperlab> <1138848452.3288.2.camel@continuity> <20060204153122.GI23057@vianova.fi> <1139073032.3325.4.camel@intrepid> <43E518BB.60204@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20060205084148.GK23057@vianova.fi> On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 04:12:27PM -0500, you [Jim Cornette] wrote: > Thomas J. Baker wrote: > > > >> > >>I've been using this to list the duplicates: > >> > >> rpm -aq --queryformat "%{NAME}\n" | sort | uniq -c | grep -v -E " *1 " > > This script works great! I added this to my tool arsenal. There were > many instances where this would be needed information. Thanks! > > ~/find-dupes.sh > 2 gpg-pubkey > 2 kernel > 2 kernel-devel Btw, I don't suppose there's any way to tell if the duplicate install is somehow wanted or legal (as it is for gpg-pubkey, kernel and kernel-devel)? > That is a lot excessive writing to the rpmdb file and a lot more chances > for things to go wrong. Hmm. I'm not sure that it would really be that much slower if yum did a clean up after each few packages. But thinking further, it would probably have know which old packages it can remove without breaking the dependencies of packages that it is about to update but has not yet updated. So not as easy as it sounds, I gather? -- v -- v at iki.fi From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 5 09:13:10 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 20:13:10 +1100 Subject: Please _do not_ strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43E5C1A6.2010003@bigpond.net.au> Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: >Dave Atkins on 02/01/2006 12:48 PM responded with: > > >>On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 21:09 -0800, Miles Lane wrote: >>. . . >> >> >>If it's down to voting for one or the other, I can't stand applications >>that steal the focus or the foreground. >> >> > >I agree with that statement. Applications that are already running >shouldn't steal focus, However the first window an application creates >should _always_ be on top. > > What if in your terminal you type in succession: oocalc & mozilla & mplayer & and every app takes 5-10-15 seconds to show ? (like if you don't have the fastest / most recent machine on the block). Do you want the first one you started to end up on top, the second or the third ? Or maybe the fastest, (which you start typing in) then second fastest comes over top, stealing the focus, then third fastest. When I work, the other apps are just tools that I know I'll be needing soon; and I want them to be ready for my input when I am ready to give them some work (focus) to do. >I really don't understand why you would want to start an application, >and yet have its window buried underneath everything else. >After all, the reason you executed it, was to use it. > >For the last 20 years the convention has been that when an >application is executed, its window appears on the top of >the stack. This shouldn't change. > > Yes, it really should change. Forcing people to do things in a less than productive way for a long time doesn't make it right or better! Think of your computer as your personal assistant: tell it to go do something; when _you_ are ready respond to the results (app) that it has created, you change the focus yourself using Alt-Tab (or the mouse if you want to do it the slow way). >And if you started an app to use it later, then its your responsibility >to push it down the stack wherever _you_ want. > > No, I'm doing work involving multiple apps (even maybe testing FC). I need to gedit a log file, open bugzilla in a browser, and do a dir list. While these separate apps are starting up, I re-started the app again from the menu etc / blah. >... >And finally, to have special code in a terminal emulator that is trying >to second guess what to do based on the timing of typing is ridiculous. > > I agree it's not worth changing the default behaviour for terminals because the new way is better. >> Try using internet explorer >>while working in word, and see how distracting it is. >> >> >I'm not to sure I understand what your compalining about. >When I use 'word' its on top, and has focus, any painting IE does, >or any other app for that matter, happens underneath. (BTW I always >use overlapping windows, not full screen windows.) > > What about a web site that waits a bit then pops up another window, right over the top of where you are typing in oowriter. Another great reason for focus to stay on what you are working on. You'll get to those other apps when _you_ are ready for them, not when it eventually finishes loading. You are the master; the computer is _your_ slave :) >>I have really become accustomed to indicating with my mouse onto which >>window I want in front, and into which window I'd like to type. >> >> >Agreed, but thats once everything has started. > > Alt-Tab has been around a long time for switching to next window (which in this case turns out to be the one you are yet to click on and pre started). If I have an email with some pages of text, and a link or attachment, I would prefer to click on the attachment, causing it to preload while I continue to read the rest of the email. When I finish reading the mail, I alt-tab to the created window. This is a time saving way to work. I get enough interuptions all day without the computer interupting me! >... snip ... > >Hopefully, this is 'start under' broken behavious a only a gnome thing, >and KDE doesn't turn its back on 20 years of standards > > Hopefully, this much better behaviour becomes standard soon, and on all operating systems. DaveT. From monty19 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 5 09:49:59 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 18:49:59 +0900 Subject: Please _do not_ strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal References: <43E5C1A6.2010003@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: How difficult would it be to build in the ability, and make it configurable? I can see the argument to both sides; doesn't _seem_ like it would be that difficult to make it configurable; then again I am not the one writing the code and haven't even looked at it so..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Timms" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Please _do not_ strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal > Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > >>Dave Atkins on 02/01/2006 12:48 PM responded >>with: >> >>>On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 21:09 -0800, Miles Lane wrote: >>>. . . >>> >>>If it's down to voting for one or the other, I can't stand applications >>>that steal the focus or the foreground. >>> >> >>I agree with that statement. Applications that are already running >>shouldn't steal focus, However the first window an application creates >>should _always_ be on top. >> > What if in your terminal you type in succession: > oocalc & > mozilla & > mplayer & > and every app takes 5-10-15 seconds to show ? (like if you don't have the > fastest / most recent machine on the block). > Do you want the first one you started to end up on top, the second or the > third ? Or maybe the fastest, (which you start typing in) then second > fastest comes over top, stealing the focus, then third fastest. > When I work, the other apps are just tools that I know I'll be needing > soon; and I want them to be ready for my input when I am ready to give > them some work (focus) to do. > >>I really don't understand why you would want to start an application, >>and yet have its window buried underneath everything else. >>After all, the reason you executed it, was to use it. >> >>For the last 20 years the convention has been that when an >>application is executed, its window appears on the top of >>the stack. This shouldn't change. >> > Yes, it really should change. Forcing people to do things in a less than > productive way for a long time doesn't make it right or better! Think of > your computer as your personal assistant: tell it to go do something; when > _you_ are ready respond to the results (app) that it has created, you > change the focus yourself using Alt-Tab (or the mouse if you want to do it > the slow way). > >>And if you started an app to use it later, then its your responsibility >>to push it down the stack wherever _you_ want. >> > No, I'm doing work involving multiple apps (even maybe testing FC). I need > to gedit a log file, open bugzilla in a browser, and do a dir list. While > these separate apps are starting up, I re-started the app again from the > menu etc / blah. > >>... >>And finally, to have special code in a terminal emulator that is trying >>to second guess what to do based on the timing of typing is ridiculous. >> > I agree it's not worth changing the default behaviour for terminals > because the new way is better. > >>> Try using internet explorer >>>while working in word, and see how distracting it is. >>> >>I'm not to sure I understand what your compalining about. >>When I use 'word' its on top, and has focus, any painting IE does, >>or any other app for that matter, happens underneath. (BTW I always >>use overlapping windows, not full screen windows.) >> > What about a web site that waits a bit then pops up another window, right > over the top of where you are typing in oowriter. Another great reason for > focus to stay on what you are working on. You'll get to those other apps > when _you_ are ready for them, not when it eventually finishes loading. > You are the master; the computer is _your_ slave :) > >>>I have really become accustomed to indicating with my mouse onto which >>>window I want in front, and into which window I'd like to type. >>> >>Agreed, but thats once everything has started. >> > Alt-Tab has been around a long time for switching to next window (which in > this case turns out to be the one you are yet to click on and pre > started). > If I have an email with some pages of text, and a link or attachment, I > would prefer to click on the attachment, causing it to preload while I > continue to read the rest of the email. When I finish reading the mail, I > alt-tab to the created window. This is a time saving way to work. I get > enough interuptions all day without the computer interupting me! > >>... snip ... >> >>Hopefully, this is 'start under' broken behavious a only a gnome thing, >>and KDE doesn't turn its back on 20 years of standards >> > Hopefully, this much better behaviour becomes standard soon, and on all > operating systems. > DaveT. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From buildsys at redhat.com Sun Feb 5 09:52:39 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 04:52:39 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060205 changes Message-ID: <200602050952.k159qdce016612@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: eclipse-1:3.1.2-1jpp_3fc ------------------------ * Sat Feb 04 2006 Ben Konrath 3.1.2-1jpp_3fc - Update efj patches to match what has been committed to HEAD. * Fri Feb 03 2006 Igor Foox 3.1.2-1jpp_2fc - Updated launcher script. * Tue Jan 31 2006 Andrew Overholt 3.1.2-1jpp_1fc - 3.1.2. - Remove unnecessary patches. glibc-2.3.90-36 --------------- * Sat Feb 04 2006 Jakub Jelinek 2.3.90-36 - update from CVS - fix frequency setting for ITIMER_PROF (#179938, BZ#2268) - fix powerpc inline fegetround () - fix nptl_db (#179946) gnome-media-2.13.91-2 --------------------- * Sat Feb 04 2006 Christopher Aillon - 2.13.91-2 - Use gstreamer (0.10) kdebindings-3.5.1-1 ------------------- kdeedu-3.5.1-1 -------------- * Sat Feb 04 2006 Than Ngo 3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 kdegraphics-7:3.5.1-1 --------------------- * Sat Feb 04 2006 Than Ngo 7:3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 kernel-2.6.15-1.1909_FC5 ------------------------ * Sat Feb 04 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc2-git1 - Fix deadlock in do_path_lookup() rhythmbox-0.9.3.1-1 ------------------- * Sat Feb 04 2006 Christopher Aillon 0.9.3.1-1 - Update to 0.9.3.1 - Use gstreamer (0.10) sound-juicer-2.13.4-2 --------------------- * Sat Feb 04 2006 Christopher Aillon 2.13.4-2 - Update to use gstreamer (0.10) xorg-x11-drv-i810-1.4.1.3-3 --------------------------- * Sat Feb 04 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.4.1.3-3 - Added 8086:2772 mapping to i810.xinf for bug (#178451) Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 sound-juicer - 2.13.4-2.i386 requires gstreamer-plugins Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs sound-juicer - 2.13.4-2.ia64 requires gstreamer-plugins Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- ccs-devel - 1.0.2-3.1.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.2-3.1 gulm - 1.0.4-2.FC5.1.ppc requires ccs sound-juicer - 2.13.4-2.ppc requires gstreamer-plugins Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 sound-juicer - 2.13.4-2.ppc64 requires gstreamer-plugins Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjava-2.8.so()(64bit) libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjni-2.8.so()(64bit) systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390x requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 sound-juicer - 2.13.4-2.x86_64 requires gstreamer-plugins From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 5 11:33:11 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 22:33:11 +1100 Subject: Fedora 5 {test,development} on G5? In-Reply-To: <200602021923.k12JNF0v015861@guild.plethora.net> References: <200602021923.k12JNF0v015861@guild.plethora.net> Message-ID: <43E5E277.6070000@bigpond.net.au> Peter Seebach wrote: >Hi! I have been told that I must make a very fast PPC system run Linux, as >soon as possible. > > Hmm, "no time" is probably not a good development candidate! but we like to test... >The obvious candidate would be Fedora 5 test releases, since the quad G5 >doesn't work with much older stuff. > >With FC5 test2, I had no joy even booting all the way. > >With FC5 "development", I got a bootable CD (yay!), then spent a day >downloading RPMs. At the end of this, I tried to run the install. I > > Maybe you could try an ftp install. At the boot prompt: linux text askmethod. Choose ftp, put in download.fedora.redhat.com pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc64 Then when getting to package selection, choose as little as possible (eg no office productivity etc), to reduce the downloads that need to be done. (make sure you get yum installed, or it all becomes too hard !). >pointed the installer at the Fedora/ppc64 (I am a ppc64, yes?) directory >on the machine I did the downloads on, and it said it was fetching >"Fedora/base/stage2.img". Then it announced that these files did not match >my boot media. > > Lots of stuff gets rebuilt everyday, this could easily cause this problem if uR download takes a long time, ie files _do_ change. In my time zone, the rebuilds are around 7:30a (check what it is in your TZ). >I noticed, around this time, that many of the files in the directory >I'd been downloading from were now dated Jan 31, which they hadn't been >when I started, so I assumed I just needed new boot media. Here, we run into >madness. There isn't anything in the likely directory: > >download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc64/images > >In .../ppc/images, there's a boot.iso, so I grabbed that, filled in the >stage2.img and a few related files, just to see whether I could run anything >at all. That boot image boots (yay!), and lets me fetch stage2.img (yay!). >Then it asserts that there was an error retrieving the installation file. >Poking in webserver logs reveals it is trying to find "product.img". > >Only, I haven't seen anything named that EVER. So I can't imagine what it's >looking for, or what failure mode caused it to start looking for this file. > > These are optional parts that probably hang about from redhat releases. I also see the same attempts with my systems (on i386), so I believe this is normal. You can look at Alt-F3, Alt-F4 to see what the installer is actually trying to do. It then gets around to the real one...[options.img, updates.img, stage2.img] >At this point, I'm a fair bit stumped. I am not deeply wedded to running >development releases. That said, I'd be happy to run one, if I can figure >out what useful clue I'm missing for the install. It seems very much as >though the "development" tree is being updated live on the server, because >there's new dates and some files not yet present. But the test trees don't >seem to work. > > There is times in the development tree where: 1. The build system is building packages, where files might be getting updated as you are in the proces of downloading / installing. 2. A particular selection of packages has unresolvable dependencies due to the above, or because particular packages have been updated but the dependent packages need to be rebuilt to match. Usually it's only a short time until it "green to go". >So... > >1. Am I even barking up the right tree? Do quad G5's run Linux? Do they >run Fedora in particular? Are test/development releases the way to go? > > No idea! (intels / amds only in this household) >2. Assuming it might be productive for me to install a test release, is >there some obvious pilot error in trying to boot from the boot.iso image >and load the files from .../development/ppc64? > > See the above, it might help. DaveT. From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 5 12:01:13 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 13:01:13 +0100 Subject: tell yum not to remove original kernel In-Reply-To: <20060205021520.16380.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> References: <604aa7910602041809j56dfbb59h31a50b0ef4e76312@mail.gmail.com> <20060205021520.16380.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0602050401k38da5212p370ca05b4832d9df@mail.gmail.com> > > disable the installonlyn plugin > > edit /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/installonlyn.conf > > enabled=0 > > of this might help too : http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2006/01/updating-kernel-removing-old-ones.html don't forget to read the comments too :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sgrubb at redhat.com Sun Feb 5 13:12:03 2006 From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 08:12:03 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <20060204221951.GB30967@vianova.fi> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E518BB.60204@insight.rr.com> <20060204221951.GB30967@vianova.fi> Message-ID: <200602050812.03994.sgrubb@redhat.com> On Saturday 04 February 2006 17:19, Ville Herva wrote: > Yes, apart from kernel and gpg-pubkeys, I think the dupe-checker mishandles > x86/x86-64 but I don't have access to any box I could check that on. There > may be other legal multiple version installs, too. I looked at this a little. In your scripts wherever you have %{NAME} change that to %{NAME}-%{ARCH} and then it spots multilib packages. -Steve From ernesto at ornl.gov Sun Feb 5 13:46:37 2006 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 08:46:37 -0500 Subject: Please _do not_ strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: References: <43E5C1A6.2010003@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <1139147197.6654.5.camel@bengal> On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 18:49 +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: > How difficult would it be to build in the ability, and make it configurable? > I can see the argument to both sides; doesn't _seem_ like it would be that > difficult to make it configurable; then again I am not the one writing the > code and haven't even looked at it so..... I agree. Especially, when using KDE or GNOME as the GUI environment for a control system. When calling XRaiseWindow the window must come to the foreground to report an alarm for example. We also need the option to say, "remain on top". Thanks, Ernesto > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Timms" > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 6:13 PM > Subject: Re: Please _do not_ strip out the patch that brings up applications > behind gnome-terminal > > > > Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > > >>Dave Atkins on 02/01/2006 12:48 PM responded > >>with: > >> > >>>On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 21:09 -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > >>>. . . > >>> > >>>If it's down to voting for one or the other, I can't stand applications > >>>that steal the focus or the foreground. > >>> > >> > >>I agree with that statement. Applications that are already running > >>shouldn't steal focus, However the first window an application creates > >>should _always_ be on top. > >> > > What if in your terminal you type in succession: > > oocalc & > > mozilla & > > mplayer & > > and every app takes 5-10-15 seconds to show ? (like if you don't have the > > fastest / most recent machine on the block). > > Do you want the first one you started to end up on top, the second or the > > third ? Or maybe the fastest, (which you start typing in) then second > > fastest comes over top, stealing the focus, then third fastest. > > When I work, the other apps are just tools that I know I'll be needing > > soon; and I want them to be ready for my input when I am ready to give > > them some work (focus) to do. > > > >>I really don't understand why you would want to start an application, > >>and yet have its window buried underneath everything else. > >>After all, the reason you executed it, was to use it. > >> > >>For the last 20 years the convention has been that when an > >>application is executed, its window appears on the top of > >>the stack. This shouldn't change. > >> > > Yes, it really should change. Forcing people to do things in a less than > > productive way for a long time doesn't make it right or better! Think of > > your computer as your personal assistant: tell it to go do something; when > > _you_ are ready respond to the results (app) that it has created, you > > change the focus yourself using Alt-Tab (or the mouse if you want to do it > > the slow way). > > > >>And if you started an app to use it later, then its your responsibility > >>to push it down the stack wherever _you_ want. > >> > > No, I'm doing work involving multiple apps (even maybe testing FC). I need > > to gedit a log file, open bugzilla in a browser, and do a dir list. While > > these separate apps are starting up, I re-started the app again from the > > menu etc / blah. > > > >>... > >>And finally, to have special code in a terminal emulator that is trying > >>to second guess what to do based on the timing of typing is ridiculous. > >> > > I agree it's not worth changing the default behaviour for terminals > > because the new way is better. > > > >>> Try using internet explorer > >>>while working in word, and see how distracting it is. > >>> > >>I'm not to sure I understand what your compalining about. > >>When I use 'word' its on top, and has focus, any painting IE does, > >>or any other app for that matter, happens underneath. (BTW I always > >>use overlapping windows, not full screen windows.) > >> > > What about a web site that waits a bit then pops up another window, right > > over the top of where you are typing in oowriter. Another great reason for > > focus to stay on what you are working on. You'll get to those other apps > > when _you_ are ready for them, not when it eventually finishes loading. > > You are the master; the computer is _your_ slave :) > > > >>>I have really become accustomed to indicating with my mouse onto which > >>>window I want in front, and into which window I'd like to type. > >>> > >>Agreed, but thats once everything has started. > >> > > Alt-Tab has been around a long time for switching to next window (which in > > this case turns out to be the one you are yet to click on and pre > > started). > > If I have an email with some pages of text, and a link or attachment, I > > would prefer to click on the attachment, causing it to preload while I > > continue to read the rest of the email. When I finish reading the mail, I > > alt-tab to the created window. This is a time saving way to work. I get > > enough interuptions all day without the computer interupting me! > > > >>... snip ... > >> > >>Hopefully, this is 'start under' broken behavious a only a gnome thing, > >>and KDE doesn't turn its back on 20 years of standards > >> > > Hopefully, this much better behaviour becomes standard soon, and on all > > operating systems. > > DaveT. > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > From pbrobinson at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 13:46:59 2006 From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 13:46:59 +0000 Subject: rawhide report: 20060205 changes In-Reply-To: <200602050952.k159qdce016612@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602050952.k159qdce016612@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <5256d0b0602050546t302ae7b7nec462880aad14d47@mail.gmail.com> > sound-juicer-2.13.4-2 > --------------------- > * Sat Feb 04 2006 Christopher Aillon 2.13.4-2 > - Update to use gstreamer (0.10) This needs the deps to be updated to gstreamer-plugins-base from gstreamer-plugins Pete From netwiz at crc.id.au Sun Feb 5 14:15:44 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 01:15:44 +1100 Subject: Dell Inspiron 8600 - Hot-swapping the bay. Message-ID: I've been trying to find information on how to hot-swap the drive bay on Dell laptops - ala windows style - and still get to use the DVD drive after inserting it while the system is running - and not having the system hang when removing the bay while booted. Has anyone managed to do this? I haven't been able to find any packages in FC's list that seems to manage this at all... -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From pbrobinson at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 14:19:21 2006 From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 14:19:21 +0000 Subject: Dell Inspiron 8600 - Hot-swapping the bay. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5256d0b0602050619p7aec6135wdb5b783e37d96f7d@mail.gmail.com> > I've been trying to find information on how to hot-swap the drive bay > on Dell laptops - ala windows style - and still get to use the DVD > drive after inserting it while the system is running - and not having > the system hang when removing the bay while booted. > > Has anyone managed to do this? I haven't been able to find any > packages in FC's list that seems to manage this at all... Along this line of thinking what's the status of support for other hotplugging of things like docking stations on laptops? pete From dfordham at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 20:22:49 2006 From: dfordham at gmail.com (Doug Fordham) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 15:22:49 -0500 Subject: Please _do not_ strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: References: <43E5C1A6.2010003@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <43E50D19.4000508@gmail.com> Pontification On: Agreed, making the action configurable allows each user to set his/her own preferences; with perhaps a "default" behavior of the current window one is active in retaining focus -- while activated applications stack behind the current one. Simple Example: I am working in Abiword, and anticipate that I am going to need to research an item on the 'Net, acquire a photo from my digicam, modify the photo with Gimp, all for inclusion in the document...I want to be able to change to each application readily, but I am not ready to execute specific activities with each of those applications just yet. So, I fire up the applications from icons on the tool bar (Gnome or KDE), and continue to work on my document without interruption from the activated applications as they startup; as each takes its own determinate amount of time to activate. When I am ready, I switch to whatever application I need to use next...perhaps Firefox to begin a Google Search for information, then the Photo Manager to acquire a picture etc. Is this logic fraught with holes? Sure...and it may not even be logical at all. However, it is a simple example of how folks expect to use their system. That all said, there are obvious considerations such as: * Each activated application will take a different amount of time to complete startup and be ready to use. Where does it fall in the stack of activated applications, and should this be controlled or should the system simply present the application when ready? * Should there be a different default behavior when activating applications from the terminal? * Should there be some additional piece of "eye-candy" in KDE and/or Gnome that "floats" to the desktop with the activated applications contained within...;o) (Not advocating this, simply a consideration; minimal is better in my opinion, but then again, I work a lot from the command line). Bottom line is what DaveT. mentions below, "You are the master; the computer is _your_ slave :) " Options are good, and and user preference should win out. Pontification Off: Doug Jason Montleon wrote: > How difficult would it be to build in the ability, and make it > configurable? I can see the argument to both sides; doesn't _seem_ > like it would be that difficult to make it configurable; then again I > am not the one writing the code and haven't even looked at it so..... > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Timms" > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 6:13 PM > Subject: Re: Please _do not_ strip out the patch that brings up > applications behind gnome-terminal > > >> Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: >> >>> Dave Atkins on 02/01/2006 12:48 PM >>> responded with: >>> >>>> On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 21:09 -0800, Miles Lane wrote: >>>> . . . >>>> >>>> If it's down to voting for one or the other, I can't stand >>>> applications >>>> that steal the focus or the foreground. >>>> >>> >>> I agree with that statement. Applications that are already running >>> shouldn't steal focus, However the first window an application creates >>> should _always_ be on top. >>> >> What if in your terminal you type in succession: >> oocalc & >> mozilla & >> mplayer & >> and every app takes 5-10-15 seconds to show ? (like if you don't have >> the fastest / most recent machine on the block). >> Do you want the first one you started to end up on top, the second or >> the third ? Or maybe the fastest, (which you start typing in) then >> second fastest comes over top, stealing the focus, then third fastest. >> When I work, the other apps are just tools that I know I'll be >> needing soon; and I want them to be ready for my input when I am >> ready to give them some work (focus) to do. >> >>> I really don't understand why you would want to start an application, >>> and yet have its window buried underneath everything else. >>> After all, the reason you executed it, was to use it. >>> >>> For the last 20 years the convention has been that when an >>> application is executed, its window appears on the top of >>> the stack. This shouldn't change. >>> >> Yes, it really should change. Forcing people to do things in a less >> than productive way for a long time doesn't make it right or better! >> Think of your computer as your personal assistant: tell it to go do >> something; when _you_ are ready respond to the results (app) that it >> has created, you change the focus yourself using Alt-Tab (or the >> mouse if you want to do it the slow way). >> >>> And if you started an app to use it later, then its your responsibility >>> to push it down the stack wherever _you_ want. >>> >> No, I'm doing work involving multiple apps (even maybe testing FC). I >> need to gedit a log file, open bugzilla in a browser, and do a dir >> list. While these separate apps are starting up, I re-started the app >> again from the menu etc / blah. >> >>> ... >>> And finally, to have special code in a terminal emulator that is trying >>> to second guess what to do based on the timing of typing is ridiculous. >>> >> I agree it's not worth changing the default behaviour for terminals >> because the new way is better. >> >>>> Try using internet explorer >>>> while working in word, and see how distracting it is. >>>> >>> I'm not to sure I understand what your compalining about. >>> When I use 'word' its on top, and has focus, any painting IE does, >>> or any other app for that matter, happens underneath. (BTW I always >>> use overlapping windows, not full screen windows.) >>> >> What about a web site that waits a bit then pops up another window, >> right over the top of where you are typing in oowriter. Another great >> reason for focus to stay on what you are working on. You'll get to >> those other apps when _you_ are ready for them, not when it >> eventually finishes loading. You are the master; the computer is >> _your_ slave :) >> >>>> I have really become accustomed to indicating with my mouse onto which >>>> window I want in front, and into which window I'd like to type. >>>> >>> Agreed, but thats once everything has started. >>> >> Alt-Tab has been around a long time for switching to next window >> (which in this case turns out to be the one you are yet to click on >> and pre started). >> If I have an email with some pages of text, and a link or attachment, >> I would prefer to click on the attachment, causing it to preload >> while I continue to read the rest of the email. When I finish reading >> the mail, I alt-tab to the created window. This is a time saving way >> to work. I get enough interuptions all day without the computer >> interupting me! >> >>> ... snip ... >>> >>> Hopefully, this is 'start under' broken behavious a only a gnome thing, >>> and KDE doesn't turn its back on 20 years of standards >>> >> Hopefully, this much better behaviour becomes standard soon, and on >> all operating systems. >> DaveT. >> >> -- >> fedora-test-list mailing list >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> > From arnling at kth.se Sun Feb 5 19:45:40 2006 From: arnling at kth.se (Joakim Arnling) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 14:45:40 -0500 Subject: vmware-config can't find header files Message-ID: <1139168741.2792.0.camel@c-f8e5e055.148-4-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> When I try to build vmhgfs module with vmware-config-tools.pl, the suggested place for include is /usr/src/linux/include. It wasnt like this prior to kernel 2.6.15-1.1907 I try to enter the right path ( /usr/src/kernels/2.6.15-1.1909_FC5-i686/include ) and gets this: "The kernel defined by this directory of header files does not have the same address space size as your running kernel." What do I do wrong? Running vmware on windows... From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Sun Feb 5 14:32:26 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 15:32:26 +0100 Subject: vmware-config can't find header files In-Reply-To: <1139168741.2792.0.camel@c-f8e5e055.148-4-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> References: <1139168741.2792.0.camel@c-f8e5e055.148-4-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> Message-ID: <1139149946.3131.29.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 14:45 -0500, Joakim Arnling wrote: > When I try to build vmhgfs module with vmware-config-tools.pl, the > suggested place for include is /usr/src/linux/include. which is utter bogus on the vmware side... the suggested place is /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build only in RH 6.2 and before was it /usr/src/linux/include > "The kernel defined by this directory of header files does not have the > same address space size as your running kernel." > > What do I do wrong? you need an upgraded vmware, it depends highly on kernel internals and those changed a bit recently (well they change all the time, just not always in ways that breaks vmware) From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Sun Feb 5 14:33:53 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 15:33:53 +0100 Subject: tell yum not to remove original kernel In-Reply-To: <20060205014720.92717.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060205014720.92717.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1139150034.3131.31.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> > I want to update to the latest test kernel > 2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 I believe on the dialup machine to > test some software that only runs on the default > kernel > [tonio at localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > [tonio at localhost ~]$ > > and not on the updated kernels. that either must be some really broken application, or the kernel gained a bug. can you give details on what stopped working? From arnling at kth.se Sun Feb 5 14:47:09 2006 From: arnling at kth.se (Joakim Arnling) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 15:47:09 +0100 Subject: vmware-config can't find header files In-Reply-To: <1139149946.3131.29.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1139168741.2792.0.camel@c-f8e5e055.148-4-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> <1139149946.3131.29.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <43E60FED.8000301@kth.se> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From netwiz at crc.id.au Sun Feb 5 14:48:13 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 01:48:13 +1100 Subject: Dell Inspiron 8600 - Hot-swapping the bay. In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0602050619p7aec6135wdb5b783e37d96f7d@mail.gmail.com> References: <5256d0b0602050619p7aec6135wdb5b783e37d96f7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 06/02/2006, at 1:19 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> I've been trying to find information on how to hot-swap the drive bay >> on Dell laptops - ala windows style - and still get to use the DVD >> drive after inserting it while the system is running - and not having >> the system hang when removing the bay while booted. >> >> Has anyone managed to do this? I haven't been able to find any >> packages in FC's list that seems to manage this at all... > > Along this line of thinking what's the status of support for other > hotplugging of things like docking stations on laptops? Interestingly enough, I've found the following script: http://mikehardy.net/linux_latitude_d800/idectl What it seems to do is use hdparm to disable the secondary IDE channel, and reenable it again when you use it. I've found that this actually stops the machine from crashing when swapping out the DVD drive. This is done by running 'idectl 1 off'. When you are ready to swap the drive back in, you insert the drive, then run 'idectl 1 on'. This then re-enables the secondary IDE controller, and the kernel detects the drive again. What I have noticed however, is that when the drive is reattached/ redetected, DMA mode is disabled. If cannot be re-enabled by using 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc' - so the drive only runs in PIO mode. This means performance really sucks. Does anyone know enough about why this happens to try to hack a workaround for this? It would be awesome to get DMA running again after a hot-swap-in. -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Sun Feb 5 14:57:28 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 15:57:28 +0100 Subject: vmware-config can't find header files In-Reply-To: <43E60FED.8000301@kth.se> References: <1139168741.2792.0.camel@c-f8e5e055.148-4-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> <1139149946.3131.29.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <43E60FED.8000301@kth.se> Message-ID: <1139151448.3131.37.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 15:47 +0100, Joakim Arnling wrote: > > you need an upgraded vmware, it depends highly on kernel internals and > > those changed a bit recently (well they change all the time, just not > > always in ways that breaks vmware) > > > > > > > I don't think there are any updates to my vmware (have 5.5.1 > build-19175) you still need one though.... but you should ask vmware for that I suppose... they are the ones who can do that update. From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Sun Feb 5 15:14:13 2006 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 15:14:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Non working dvd drive. Message-ID: <20060205151413.56884.qmail@web86504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I have a system that had core 4 working on it till FC5T2 was installed recently and have just noticed that my slot type dvd drive that was used to boot and install FC5T2 from does not recognize the presence of any media that you insert into it. System is fully updated and the drive still works OK in "WINDOWS" and at boot time it is a SCSI Pioneer DVD-303. excerpt from /var/log/messages to show what it is detected as at boot time follows :- Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 7.0 Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: Vendor: IBM OEM Model: DCHS04U Rev: 5353 Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: scsi0:A:0:0: Tagged Queuing enabled. Depth 4 Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:0: Beginning Domain Validation Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:0: wide asynchronous Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:0: FAST-20 WIDE SCSI 40.0 MB/s ST (50 ns, offset 8) Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:0: Domain Validation skipping write tests Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:0: Ending Domain Validation Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: SCSI device sda: 8888543 512-byte hdwr sectors (4551 MB) Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back w/ FUA Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: SCSI device sda: 8888543 512-byte hdwr sectors (4551 MB) Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back w/ FUA Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: sda: sda1 Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: Vendor: iomega Model: jaz 1GB Rev: J^77 Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:3: Beginning Domain Validation Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:3: FAST-10 SCSI 10.0 MB/s ST (100 ns, offset 15) Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:3: Domain Validation skipping write tests Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:3: Ending Domain Validation Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: sd 0:0:3:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: Vendor: PIONEER Model: DVD-ROM DVD-303 Rev: 1.10 Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:5: Beginning Domain Validation Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:5: FAST-20 SCSI 20.0 MB/s ST (50 ns, offset 8) Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:5: Domain Validation skipping write tests Feb 5 13:04:10 bentledr kernel: target0:0:5: Ending Domain Validation NOTE not showing as being attached but the hardware browser shows it. Any help with where to look for any more info is welcome also what should I file this against as a bug. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 5 16:12:27 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 21:42:27 +0530 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <200602041157.17339.prigault@oricom.ca> References: <200602041157.17339.prigault@oricom.ca> Message-ID: <43E623EB.2080204@fedoraproject.org> HI >I am also very concerned about the delay in the release of GCC-4.1 (no release >candidate yet), expecting FC5-final to include a compiler that has a wide >level of exposure to testing. Having GCC-4.1-cvs-xxx would make users >uncomfortable, and without bringing back the old RedHat ghost of gcc-2.96, I >remind you that FC4 was released with a compiler blacklisted by the KDE >project, which incidentally was one of the reasons for me and my institution >to skip FC4 altogether and stay with FC3 until FC5 is released. > > The version of GCC shipped with FC4 was not a stable release of GCC. End users wouldnt have to worry about the KDE blacklisting since it was already patched, build against GCC 4 and provided as part of FC4. A prior version of GCC was also provided for compatibility reasons for developers who needed to compile code not compatible with the system compiler. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 5 16:31:28 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 22:01:28 +0530 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <43E623EB.2080204@fedoraproject.org> References: <200602041157.17339.prigault@oricom.ca> <43E623EB.2080204@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43E62860.7090306@fedoraproject.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > HI > >> I am also very concerned about the delay in the release of GCC-4.1 >> (no release candidate yet), expecting FC5-final to include a compiler >> that has a wide level of exposure to testing. Having GCC-4.1-cvs-xxx >> would make users uncomfortable, and without bringing back the old >> RedHat ghost of gcc-2.96, I remind you that FC4 was released with a >> compiler blacklisted by the KDE project, which incidentally was one >> of the reasons for me and my institution to skip FC4 altogether and >> stay with FC3 until FC5 is released. >> > The version of GCC shipped with FC4 was not a stable release of GCC. Err. I meant it was a stable release here. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From vherva at viasys.com Sun Feb 5 16:32:17 2006 From: vherva at viasys.com (Ville Herva) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 18:32:17 +0200 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <200602050812.03994.sgrubb@redhat.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E518BB.60204@insight.rr.com> <20060204221951.GB30967@vianova.fi> <200602050812.03994.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060205163217.GL23057@vianova.fi> On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:12:03AM -0500, you [Steve Grubb] wrote: > On Saturday 04 February 2006 17:19, Ville Herva wrote: > > Yes, apart from kernel and gpg-pubkeys, I think the dupe-checker mishandles > > x86/x86-64 but I don't have access to any box I could check that on. There > > may be other legal multiple version installs, too. > > I looked at this a little. In your scripts wherever you have %{NAME} change > that to %{NAME}-%{ARCH} and then it spots multilib packages. Thanks, I'll note that the scripts were not meant to be anything remotely finished (I haven't even begun to think what numerous things could go wrong). If they illustrated the idea, that's a good start. But anyway, thanks for the insights. -- v -- v at iki.fi From michal at harddata.com Sun Feb 5 16:50:26 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 09:50:26 -0700 Subject: Non working dvd drive. In-Reply-To: <20060205151413.56884.qmail@web86504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20060205151413.56884.qmail@web86504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060205165026.GA2067@mail.harddata.com> On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 03:14:13PM +0000, DAVID BENTLEY wrote: > ... have just noticed that my slot type dvd > drive that was used to > boot and install FC5T2 from does not recognize the > presence of any media that you insert into it. .... > > NOTE not showing as being attached but the hardware > browser shows it. Does the above means that a corresponding icon is always missing when you browse "Computer" window? Or maybe only if you insert some media in a drive and comes back when media are ejected? I have a box which does such peek-a-boo but with CD. OTOH with floppies recently I always see "Probably missing media" or something like that. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177589 Can you mount your media using just 'mount' from a command line; possibly as root? > Any help with where to look for any more info is > welcome also what should I file this against as a bug. Depends on what is actually happening. Michal From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Sun Feb 5 16:59:56 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 17:59:56 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <200602041157.17339.prigault@oricom.ca> References: <200602041157.17339.prigault@oricom.ca> Message-ID: <1139158796.3131.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> > I am also very concerned about the delay in the release of GCC-4.1 (no release > candidate yet), expecting FC5-final to include a compiler that has a wide > level of exposure to testing. Having GCC-4.1-cvs-xxx would make users > uncomfortable, and without bringing back the old RedHat ghost of gcc-2.96, I > remind you that FC4 was released with a compiler blacklisted by the KDE > project, which incidentally was one of the reasons for me and my institution > to skip FC4 altogether and stay with FC3 until FC5 is released. That doesn't show a lot of knowledge on your institutions part though ;( KDE blacklisted that gcc for ONE bug, a bug fixed in the RH rpms already. From sgrubb at redhat.com Sun Feb 5 17:15:55 2006 From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 12:15:55 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <200602050812.03994.sgrubb@redhat.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <20060204221951.GB30967@vianova.fi> <200602050812.03994.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200602051215.56098.sgrubb@redhat.com> On Sunday 05 February 2006 08:12, Steve Grubb wrote: > I looked at this a little. In your scripts wherever you have %{NAME} change > that to %{NAME}-%{ARCH} and then it spots multilib packages. Here's what I'm using modified from your first piece: #!/bin/sh dups="gpg-pubkey|kernel-`uname -m`" rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{ARCH}\n" | sort | uniq -c | awk '$1 > 1 { print $2 } ' | egrep -v $dups But if you are on a multilib system, you can have the above script report nothing wrong since yum may not have pulled both i386 & x86_64 libs. In that case, you can use the following script to look even deeper for version mismatches: #!/bin/sh dups="gpg-pubkey" rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}\n" | sort | uniq -c | egrep -v $dups | awk '$1 == 2 { print $2 } '| xargs rpm -q --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}\n" | sort | uniq -c | awk '$1 == 1 { print $2 }' -Steve From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Sun Feb 5 17:17:53 2006 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 17:17:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Non working dvd drive. In-Reply-To: <20060205165026.GA2067@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <20060205171753.58798.qmail@web86501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> The drive shows up in my computer but on attempting to use the mount menu option I get a small box with a white cross on an icon and a button with OK on it and another box titled error with a message saying Unable to mount media and suggestinng that there is probably no media in the drive. So some of the symptoms are as those described in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177589 From selinux at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 17:26:19 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 09:26:19 -0800 Subject: vmware-config can't find header files In-Reply-To: <1139151448.3131.37.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1139168741.2792.0.camel@c-f8e5e055.148-4-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> <1139149946.3131.29.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <43E60FED.8000301@kth.se> <1139151448.3131.37.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602050926l3b0f0f88je04b1451fa5a8f12@mail.gmail.com> There is a bug in the vmware-config.pl script that is exposed by changes to the newer kernel headers. I've reported this to vmware: http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=31877&tstart=0 Here is the patch described there: --- vmware-config.pl.old 2005-12-15 21:55:24.000000000 -0800 +++ vmware-config.pl 2006-02-04 16:53:06.000000000 -0800 @@ -1969,8 +1969,8 @@ . ' -E - | ' . shell_string($gHelper{'grep'}) . ' ' . shell_string($pattern)); chomp($header_page_offset); - $header_page_offset =~ s/^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,}).*$/$1/; - if ($header_page_offset =~ /[0-9a-fA-F]{8,}/) { + if ($header_page_offset =~ /^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,})/) { + $header_page_offset = $1; # We found a valid page offset if (defined($gSystem{'page_offset'}) and not (lc($header_page_offset) eq lc($gSystem{'page_offset'}))) { tom From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sun Feb 5 17:36:06 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 12:36:06 -0500 Subject: Freecell will not launch In-Reply-To: <43E58BAF.3090603@bigpond.net.au> References: <43E09D94.5050809@partha.com> <43E58BAF.3090603@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <43E63786.1060505@insight.rr.com> David Timms wrote: > Partha Bagchi wrote: > >> sol --variation freecell >> Backtrace: >> In /usr/share/sol-games/freecell.scm: >> 581: 0* (define kill-thread-mutex (make-mutex)) >> 581: 1* (make-mutex) >> >> /usr/share/sol-games/freecell.scm:581:27: In expression (make-mutex): >> /usr/share/sol-games/freecell.scm:581:27: Unbound variable: make-mutex > > see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177886 > DaveT. > I'm getting the program to launch fine with SELinux in permissive but not with it in enforcing mode. With SELinux enforcing: sol --variation freecell sol: error while loading shared libraries: libqthreads.so.12: cannot enable exec utable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied With 'selinux 0' issued first, this launches fine for me in the terminal or from the menu. There are no errors outputted to the terminal. Jim -- The person who can smile when something goes wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. From bmillett at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 17:45:02 2006 From: bmillett at gmail.com (Brian Millett) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 11:45:02 -0600 Subject: gnome via startx OK, gnome via gdm not. Message-ID: <1139161502.6142.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have been booting into runlevel 3 for quite a while. After logging in, I do a "startx" and enjoy the gnome desktop. After the latest rawhide updates, I decided to try/test the runlevel 5 and log in via gdm. I had several errors where gdm could not be launched and I saw that the path it was trying was /usr/X11R6/bin/... , so I changed them to /usr/bin/... When I did that, I got a nice gdm login screen. Trying to log in however gives me only a session of "twm". It doesn't matter if I try a kde session, gnome session, xfce4 session,etc. All I get is a twm session. I think that I have too many *.rpmnew *.rpmsave config files laying around and I probably should do a new install, but hey, how else can I learn? So my questions are what should I look at to see why I am only getting a twm session? Why isn't starting a session via the gdm log in screen the same as doing startx? What are the difference and how/what can I do to monitor the process? Thanks. -- Brian Millett - [ Talia Winters, "A Spider in the Web"] "Taro Isogi spent his life improving the lives of others. He built a business based on that principle, and he never broke a rule or harmed another to do it. Mars was his dream, Captain, now he's been murdered for it, and you're trying to cast the blame on him." From mike at miketc.com Sun Feb 5 17:49:23 2006 From: mike at miketc.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 11:49:23 -0600 Subject: gnome via startx OK, gnome via gdm not. In-Reply-To: <1139161502.6142.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1139161502.6142.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1139161763.2258.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 11:45 -0600, Brian Millett wrote: > I have been booting into runlevel 3 for quite a while. After logging > in, I do a "startx" and enjoy the gnome desktop. After the latest > rawhide updates, I decided to try/test the runlevel 5 and log in via > gdm. I had several errors where gdm could not be launched and I saw > that the path it was trying was /usr/X11R6/bin/... , so I changed them > to /usr/bin/... When I did that, I got a nice gdm login screen. Trying > to log in however gives me only a session of "twm". It doesn't matter > if I try a kde session, gnome session, xfce4 session,etc. All I get is > a twm session. Try looking at /etc/sysconfig/desktop and see if you see anything in there. If anything, maybe backup your /home/user dir, delete any .gnome/whatever files and try starting it up from scratch and see what happens. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sun Feb 5 17:54:50 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 12:54:50 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <20060205163217.GL23057@vianova.fi> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E518BB.60204@insight.rr.com> <20060204221951.GB30967@vianova.fi> <200602050812.03994.sgrubb@redhat.com> <20060205163217.GL23057@vianova.fi> Message-ID: <43E63BEA.6050806@insight.rr.com> Ville Herva wrote: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:12:03AM -0500, you [Steve Grubb] wrote: >> On Saturday 04 February 2006 17:19, Ville Herva wrote: >>> Yes, apart from kernel and gpg-pubkeys, I think the dupe-checker mishandles >>> x86/x86-64 but I don't have access to any box I could check that on. There >>> may be other legal multiple version installs, too. >> I looked at this a little. In your scripts wherever you have %{NAME} change >> that to %{NAME}-%{ARCH} and then it spots multilib packages. > > Thanks, > > I'll note that the scripts were not meant to be anything remotely finished > (I haven't even begun to think what numerous things could go wrong). If > they illustrated the idea, that's a good start. > > But anyway, thanks for the insights. > > > > -- v -- > > v at iki.fi > This addition would probably help prevent duplicates showing up on i386 and 64-bit architectures. I get the below output but only have an i686. I guess those with 64 bit would need to try out the command to see what shows up. ~/find-dupes-multiarch.sh 2 gpg-pubkey-(none) 2 kernel-devel-i686 2 kernel-i686 rpm -aq --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{ARCH}\n" | sort | uniq -c | grep -v -E " *1 " All on one line. Jim From bmillett at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 18:23:10 2006 From: bmillett at gmail.com (Brian Millett) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 12:23:10 -0600 Subject: gnome via startx OK, gnome via gdm not. In-Reply-To: <1139161763.2258.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> References: <1139161502.6142.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1139161763.2258.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> Message-ID: <1139163790.6142.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 11:49 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 11:45 -0600, Brian Millett wrote: > > I have been booting into runlevel 3 for quite a while. After logging > > in, I do a "startx" and enjoy the gnome desktop. After the latest > > rawhide updates, I decided to try/test the runlevel 5 and log in via > > gdm. I had several errors where gdm could not be launched and I saw > > that the path it was trying was /usr/X11R6/bin/... , so I changed them > > to /usr/bin/... When I did that, I got a nice gdm login screen. Trying > > to log in however gives me only a session of "twm". It doesn't matter > > if I try a kde session, gnome session, xfce4 session,etc. All I get is > > a twm session. > > Try looking at /etc/sysconfig/desktop and see if you see anything in > there. > > If anything, maybe backup your /home/user dir, delete > any .gnome/whatever files and try starting it up from scratch and see > what happens. Ok, thanks. I forgot to mention that via the gdm, root and every other user also gets a twm session, so I'll check the system level stuff like the /etc/sysconfig files. Thanks. -- Brian Millett - [ G'Kar and Sinclair, "By Any Means Necessary"] "Commander, you are a far more spiritual man than I gave you credit for." 'There are a couple of Jesuit teachers I know who might disagree with you.' From michal at harddata.com Sun Feb 5 18:23:19 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 11:23:19 -0700 Subject: Non working dvd drive. In-Reply-To: <20060205171753.58798.qmail@web86501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20060205165026.GA2067@mail.harddata.com> <20060205171753.58798.qmail@web86501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060205182319.GA4099@mail.harddata.com> On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 05:17:53PM +0000, DAVID BENTLEY wrote: > > So some of the symptoms are as those described in > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177589 In such case add your comments there explaining which hardware/software you are using and what you observed. It is important to know that this happens not only in one very specific situation. Michal From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sun Feb 5 18:29:16 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:29:16 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <20060205163217.GL23057@vianova.fi> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E518BB.60204@insight.rr.com> <20060204221951.GB30967@vianova.fi> <200602050812.03994.sgrubb@redhat.com> <20060205163217.GL23057@vianova.fi> Message-ID: <43E643FC.2070605@insight.rr.com> Ville Herva wrote: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:12:03AM -0500, you [Steve Grubb] wrote: >> On Saturday 04 February 2006 17:19, Ville Herva wrote: Slightly modifying the scripts presented and not really knowing what I am actually doing, I was able to come up with this variation which will not show the kernel or public key entries. As the best way to comment, should you paste text or send as attachment? Jim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: find-dupes-mgv.sh Type: application/x-shellscript Size: 172 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sgrubb at redhat.com Sun Feb 5 18:29:22 2006 From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 13:29:22 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <43E63BEA.6050806@insight.rr.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <20060205163217.GL23057@vianova.fi> <43E63BEA.6050806@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <200602051329.22896.sgrubb@redhat.com> On Sunday 05 February 2006 12:54, Jim Cornette wrote: > This addition would probably help prevent duplicates showing up on i386 > and 64-bit architectures. I get the below output but only have an i686. > I guess those with 64 bit would need to try out the command to see what > shows up. Ok, I think I have something that works for everyone. -Steve #!/bin/sh # Add any package here that is OK to have duplicates dups="gpg-pubkey|kernel|kernel-devel" # Test 1. Look for multiple versions of the same package # We use # as a separator so that we can remove it later. # is not in any # package name that I know of and that's the basis of using it. list=`rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}#%{ARCH}\n" | sort | uniq -c | tr '#' ' ' | egrep -vw "$dups" | awk '$1 > 1 { print $2 } '` if [ x"$list" != "x" ] ; then echo "Duplicates were found:" echo $list | xargs rpm -q exit 1 fi # Test 2. Check for mismatched versions list=`rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}\n" | sort | uniq -c | egrep -vw $dups | awk '$1 == 2 { print $2 } '| xargs rpm -q --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n" | sort | uniq -c | awk '$1 == 1 { print $2 }' | xargs rpm -q --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n"` if [ x"$list" != "x" ] ; then echo "Version mismatches were found:" echo $list | tr ' ' '\n' exit 1 fi exit 0 From dfordham at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 18:36:11 2006 From: dfordham at gmail.com (Doug Fordham) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:36:11 -0500 Subject: vmware-config can't find header files In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602050926l3b0f0f88je04b1451fa5a8f12@mail.gmail.com> References: <1139168741.2792.0.camel@c-f8e5e055.148-4-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> <1139149946.3131.29.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <43E60FED.8000301@kth.se> <1139151448.3131.37.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4c4ba1530602050926l3b0f0f88je04b1451fa5a8f12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E6459B.30607@gmail.com> Tom, Thanks for posting the patch...tested on an IBM T41, WINXP...works like a charm. Regards, Doug Tom London wrote: > There is a bug in the vmware-config.pl script that is exposed by > changes to the newer kernel headers. > > I've reported this to vmware: > http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=31877&tstart=0 > > Here is the patch described there: > > --- vmware-config.pl.old 2005-12-15 21:55:24.000000000 -0800 > +++ vmware-config.pl 2006-02-04 16:53:06.000000000 -0800 > @@ -1969,8 +1969,8 @@ > . ' -E - | ' . shell_string($gHelper{'grep'}) . ' ' > . shell_string($pattern)); > chomp($header_page_offset); > - $header_page_offset =~ s/^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,}).*$/$1/; > - if ($header_page_offset =~ /[0-9a-fA-F]{8,}/) { > + if ($header_page_offset =~ /^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,})/) { > + $header_page_offset = $1; > # We found a valid page offset > if (defined($gSystem{'page_offset'}) and > not (lc($header_page_offset) eq lc($gSystem{'page_offset'}))) { > > tom > > From foster at in.tum.de Sun Feb 5 18:31:30 2006 From: foster at in.tum.de (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 19:31:30 +0100 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <200602051329.22896.sgrubb@redhat.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <20060205163217.GL23057@vianova.fi> <43E63BEA.6050806@insight.rr.com> <200602051329.22896.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: On 05/02/06, Steve Grubb wrote: > # Add any package here that is OK to have duplicates > dups="gpg-pubkey|kernel|kernel-devel" Also "kernel-smp|kernel-smp-devel" ... MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth) From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sun Feb 5 19:00:21 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 14:00:21 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <20060205163217.GL23057@vianova.fi> <43E63BEA.6050806@insight.rr.com> <200602051329.22896.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E64B45.4090003@insight.rr.com> Mary Ellen Foster wrote: > On 05/02/06, Steve Grubb wrote: >> # Add any package here that is OK to have duplicates >> dups="gpg-pubkey|kernel|kernel-devel" > Also "kernel-smp|kernel-smp-devel" ... > > MEF > > -- > __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ > "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, > lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination > of their C programs." (Robert Firth) > Playing around with the scripts from Steve and Ville let me customize it to show the following. I did not see any output for development with the addition of just kernel as below. Adding kernel-smp to the exclusions would probably be needed if you would use the information. #!/bin/sh # This script will search for duplicate package installations and also will exclude #programs which are legitimate duplicate packages. # # Enter the rpms that are legitimate multiversion installs in the below line. # These entries will not show on the output from the script. # dups="gpg-pubkey|kernel" echo Starting Duplicate RPM Search. echo ... rpm -aq --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{ARCH}\n" | sort | uniq -c | grep -v -E " *1 "|awk '$1 > 1 { print $2 } ' | egrep -v $dups echo Finished With Search. echo Jim -- The person who can smile when something goes wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 5 19:16:29 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 11:16:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: tell yum not to remove original kernel In-Reply-To: <1139150034.3131.31.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <20060205191630.73975.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> --- Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > I want to update to the latest test kernel > > 2.6.15-1.1884_FC5 I believe on the dialup machine > to > > test some software that only runs on the default > > kernel > > [tonio at localhost ~]$ uname -r > > 2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > > [tonio at localhost ~]$ > > > > and not on the updated kernels. > > that either must be some really broken application, > or the kernel gained > a bug. can you give details on what stopped working? > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > I am on dialup and I have to use slmodemd to connect to the internet and without it, I have to reboot and run first kernel to send any bugs on the home machine. Since the first test kernel, slmodemd does not work on the updated kernels. [root at localhost slmodem-2.9.11-20051101]# service slmodemd start mknod: `/dev/slamr0': File exists Ungrabbing winmodem from kernel ... done. FATAL: Error inserting slamr (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1898_FC5/extra/slamr.ko): Invalid argument ERROR: Module slamr does not exist in /proc/modules Loading SmartLink Modem driver into kernel ... FATAL: Error inserting slamr (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1898_FC5/extra/slamr.ko): Invalid argument failed. [root at localhost slmodem-2.9.11-20051101]# rpm -qa kernel* kernel-2.6.15-1.1878_FC5 kernel-devel-2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 kernel-devel-2.6.15-1.1878_FC5 kernel-2.6.15-1.1898_FC5 kernel-2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 kernel-devel-2.6.15-1.1898_FC5 [root at localhost slmodem-2.9.11-20051101]# ls /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1898_FC5/extra/ -l total 1000 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 742681 Feb 4 22:56 slamr.ko -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 152392 Feb 4 22:56 slusb.ko -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 95545 Feb 4 22:53 ungrab-winmodem.ko [root at localhost slmodem-2.9.11-20051101]# [root at localhost slmodem-2.9.11-20051101]# modprobe slamr FATAL: Error inserting slamr (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1898_FC5/extra/slamr.ko): Invalid argument [root at localhost slmodem-2.9.11-20051101]# I created an install script to track the changes. I modified st7554.c line 1153 was removed to remove a compile error as suggested by Sasha K from linmodems.org. And Marv also asked which gcc was running which is [tonio at localhost drivers]$ ls -l /usr/bin/gcc* -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 131692 Jan 7 06:55 /usr/bin/gcc -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 87804 Jan 4 08:32 /usr/bin/gcc32 [tonio at localhost drivers]$ I hate to bother with this issue, but it does not want to work. I am aware of the issues of userpace* and not building into the kernel, but the winmodem that I have does not run with alternate code. Best Regards, Antonio __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From vherva at viasys.com Sun Feb 5 19:26:49 2006 From: vherva at viasys.com (Ville Herva) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:26:49 +0200 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <43E64B45.4090003@insight.rr.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <20060205163217.GL23057@vianova.fi> <43E63BEA.6050806@insight.rr.com> <200602051329.22896.sgrubb@redhat.com> <43E64B45.4090003@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20060205192649.GM23057@vianova.fi> On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 02:00:21PM -0500, you [Jim Cornette] wrote: > dups="gpg-pubkey|kernel" > echo Starting Duplicate RPM Search. > echo ... > rpm -aq --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{ARCH}\n" | sort | uniq -c | grep -v -E > " *1 "|awk '$1 > 1 > { print $2 } ' | egrep -v $dups > echo Finished With Search. > echo I small note: I think egrep -v "gpg-pubkey|kernel" will also match something like "fookernel" if such package name will ever appear. Perhaps something like egrep "^ +[0123456789]+ +($dups)$" would be safer. Or then it is overkill :). I don't know :) -- v -- v at iki.fi From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sun Feb 5 19:39:53 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 14:39:53 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <20060205192649.GM23057@vianova.fi> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <20060205163217.GL23057@vianova.fi> <43E63BEA.6050806@insight.rr.com> <200602051329.22896.sgrubb@redhat.com> <43E64B45.4090003@insight.rr.com> <20060205192649.GM23057@vianova.fi> Message-ID: <43E65489.1000406@insight.rr.com> Ville Herva wrote: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 02:00:21PM -0500, you [Jim Cornette] wrote: >> dups="gpg-pubkey|kernel" >> echo Starting Duplicate RPM Search. >> echo ... >> rpm -aq --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{ARCH}\n" | sort | uniq -c | grep -v -E >> " *1 "|awk '$1 > 1 >> { print $2 } ' | egrep -v $dups >> echo Finished With Search. >> echo > > I small note: I think egrep -v "gpg-pubkey|kernel" will also match something > like "fookernel" if such package name will ever appear. > > Perhaps something like > > egrep "^ +[0123456789]+ +($dups)$" > > would be safer. Or then it is overkill :). I don't know :) > > > -- v -- > > v at iki.fi > I tried with removing the k from kernel and you are correct. There is a possibility for fookernel, kernelfoo and other undesired matches. It would most likely need some of Steve's expertise. I have to get rid of the linewrap from his entries and have not discovered what is missing yet. I'm enjoying the fi, exit status and the correct way to do a script presented. Jim From ianburrell at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 20:27:48 2006 From: ianburrell at gmail.com (Ian Burrell) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 12:27:48 -0800 Subject: Very slow screen refresh In-Reply-To: <1139121279.9905.19.camel@monster.camerontech.com> References: <1139121279.9905.19.camel@monster.camerontech.com> Message-ID: On 2/4/06, Thomas Cameron wrote: > All - > > I am running FC5t2 x86_64 on an Intel D945PVS motherboard with an Intel > 3.0GHz HT processor and 512MB memory. My video card is an nVidia > GeForce FX 5200 with 128MB memory. My monitor is a Viewsonic VA201wb > 19" LCD monitor. I am running at 1600x1200 resolution, thousands of > colors. > > When I minimize an application window, say Firefox or Evolution, it > takes a few seconds for my desktop to refresh. It is very odd. I > didn't see this on the exact same hardware running RHEL. > > I've added myself to BZ 178518. Anyone else seeing this? > Are you using an image as your background? There was some talk on the Gnome blogs about background redrawing being slow. The root cause is slowness in Cairo with image backgrounds. Contributing factors seem to be using nautilus for the root window and themes drawn by Cairo (like Clearlooks). http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314616 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4320 - Ian From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sun Feb 5 20:36:55 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 15:36:55 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <200602051329.22896.sgrubb@redhat.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <20060205163217.GL23057@vianova.fi> <43E63BEA.6050806@insight.rr.com> <200602051329.22896.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E661E7.6060900@insight.rr.com> Steve Grubb wrote: > On Sunday 05 February 2006 12:54, Jim Cornette wrote: >> This addition would probably help prevent duplicates showing up on i386 >> and 64-bit architectures. I get the below output but only have an i686. >> I guess those with 64 bit would need to try out the command to see what >> shows up. > > Ok, I think I have something that works for everyone. > -Steve > > Steve, This version works great for me but has the effect that Ville mentioned. I was having troubles with lines wrapping so I added the \ to prevent the breaking up when the script was pasted. Thanks! This works fine and is valuable to fine dupes and also the feature to show version information for multiple version packages is very valuable. I did have the below output for no duplicates found. No duplicate entries outputs: ~/find-dupes-sgmv.sh rpmq: no arguments given for query rpmq: no arguments given for query Removing kernel from exclusions outputs: [jim at cornette-lt ~]$ ~/find-dupes-sgmv.sh Duplicates were found: kernel-2.6.15-1.1895_FC5 kernel-2.6.15-1.1907_FC5 Adding an x to the end of gpg-pubkey shows: [jim at cornette-lt ~]$ ~/find-dupes-sgmv.sh Duplicates were found: gpg-pubkey-1ac70ce6-41bebeef gpg-pubkey-a109b1ec-3f6e28d5 Thanks! Jim ---- #!/bin/sh # Add any package here that is OK to have duplicates dups="gpg-pubkey|kernel" # Test 1. Look for multiple versions of the same package # We use # as a separator so that we can remove it later. # is not in any # package name that I know of and that's the basis of using it. list=`rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}#%{ARCH}\n" | sort | uniq -c | tr '#' ' ' \ | egrep -vw "$dups" | awk '$1 > 1 { print $2 } '` if [ x"$list" != "x" ] ; then echo "Duplicates were found:" echo $list | xargs rpm -q exit 1 fi # Test 2. Check for mismatched versions list=`rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}\n" | sort | uniq -c | egrep -vw $dups | \ awk '$1 == 2 { print $2 } '| xargs rpm -q --queryformat \ "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n" | sort | uniq -c | awk '$1 == 1 { print \ $2 }' | xargs rpm -q --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n"` if [ x"$list" != "x" ] ; then echo "Version mismatches were found:" echo $list | tr ' ' '\n' exit 1 fi exit 0 -- The person who can smile when something goes wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. From lsatenstein at yahoo.com Mon Feb 6 00:27:36 2006 From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 16:27:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: PUP and YUMEX broken Message-ID: <20060206002736.84901.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This past week (1 Feb or later), I used PUP and it installed a yum update. After that, when I try to retrieve updates, I get a stall with the status bar half way across the window. It sits there for a minute or three, and then bye bye pup or bye bye yumex. I did a cleanup of meta.. and headers, and still nothing. The yum version is 2.4.1 Any clues as to what you and I would need in order to repair this buglet ? Leslie Satenstein Montreal, Quebec Canada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 00:34:36 2006 From: n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com (n0dalus) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:04:36 +1030 Subject: PUP and YUMEX broken In-Reply-To: <20060206002736.84901.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060206002736.84901.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6280325c0602051634o83b84ap435bcc0dbd3f8c99@mail.gmail.com> On 2/6/06, Leslie Satenstein wrote: > This past week (1 Feb or later), I used PUP and it installed a yum update. > After that, when I try to retrieve updates, I get a stall with the status > bar half way across the window. It sits there for a minute or three, and > then bye bye pup or bye bye yumex. > > I did a cleanup of meta.. and headers, and still nothing. The yum version is > 2.4.1 > > Any clues as to what you and I would need in order to repair this buglet ? > You might need to manually grab the python-sqlite rpm from one of the mirrors and update it. The old version was causing yum to eat up all the memory. Search the list archives for several other topics related to this. See if that fixes it. n0dalus. From mike at miketc.com Mon Feb 6 02:34:15 2006 From: mike at miketc.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 20:34:15 -0600 Subject: Rawhide install as of today Message-ID: <1139193256.2834.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> The install at first crashed, when selecting to "customize packages now" instead of accepting as is. So I restarted the install and it went smoothly this time, only I chose to accept the default settings and chose to customize later. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt, then it's hilarious!" From canfield at uindy.edu Mon Feb 6 02:36:25 2006 From: canfield at uindy.edu (D Canfield) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 21:36:25 -0500 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> John Summerfied wrote: > The joys of a rolling beta:-) > > If you don't like the way Fedora works, try RHEL or its clones such as > Centos, WBEL, or if you still want the latest technology try > Ubuntu/Kubuntu with releases each October and April with the latest, > and has few if any feature changes within the support life. > > Read the docs closely, like FC they're not for everyone. > This has got to be my single biggest pet peeve about Fedora right now. Whenever discussion of why a procedure or policy is the way it is, we get one of two conflicting answers. Either, it's because things have to be as easy as possible for Grandma to be able to sit down and start using Fedora, *or* Fedora is a fast-moving collection of bleeding edge software, so it might break... and if you can't deal with that, go use Ubuntu. While I suppose the case could be made that those two goals don't absolutely have to conflict, it does seem rather pointless to try to serve both masters. If Fedora releases are never "stable" and always carry a warning label, why bother designing them to be accessible to the common end user? A lot of times it really feels like nobody knows who is supposed to be using this distribution. I use FC on my desktop/laptop because I believe it has made me better at administering my RHEL-based servers, and because of the broad support by 3rd party packagers (I can't use RHEL on my desktop... it's just too far behind to be feasible most of the time). I nearly took everyone's advice and switched to Ubuntu a few months ago because things just generally seemed to work better there, even in development. However, I quickly realized just how far I'd be drifting from RHEL if I stayed there, so instead I decided to come back to FC for a while and see if I could help improve the distro that I've grown so accustomed to over the years. Unfortunately, as I've been on the devel list, there really seems to be a lack of focus or direction in the project, and even the Red hat guys seem to contradict each other half the time. So, for now it just seems to be a lot of people working on whatever projects they "own" until the buzzer sounds for a test release. Then after a few releases, things are finally declared stable and a release is made. After which, everything continues to be updated with no apparent limits other than "try not to break too much stuff at once." My goal is not to bash the project here. I'm just saying that I for one am totally lost as to what direction the project is headed in, and based on the amount of back and forth conversation on this list, it seems a lot of people are in the same boat. Is there some vast repository of design goal and policy documents that I'm missing somewhere? From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Mon Feb 6 02:43:26 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:43:26 +0800 Subject: Apple Updates? In-Reply-To: <43E54360.5040302@redhat.com> References: <91f88ee20602031705h730240a1t681e63b88a7ea8ed@mail.gmail.com> <43E414B0.70507@redhat.com> <43E530F1.5090300@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E54360.5040302@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E6B7CE.2080804@herakles.homelinux.org> Pete Graner wrote: > John Summerfied wrote: > >> Pete Graner wrote: >> >>> 17" that I'm having the following issues with: >>> >>> Sound modules won't load >>> Once modules are loaded sound won't work: >>> Can only get X to run with FBDev not ati or radeon driver >>> Currently wireless both the BCM and airo drivers are hosed Pete's response surprised me considerably, so I've renewed my research; I have a powerbook and I would like Linux on it, but I've never tried hard because of the wireless issue. This also surprised me, but wasn't much help (wireless "just works," more surprising as it's Debian). http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~unclem/linux/installing_debian_powerpc.html It has info that might help with the other problems though. >> >> >> Airport is not going to work any time soon. Not even with ndiswrapper. >> If you want working (11g) wireless with Linux, best prospect is >> probably a wireless card labelled "atheros." d-link and netgear have >> such, but of course the nice OS X software configuration won't work >> with those. Probably they won't even work at all on OS X without some >> work. >> > > The airport extreme (bcm43xx) *does* work has worked in the past. > Recently its gone to pot with newer kernels and Network Manager since > wpa was added. I can get it to work by forcing the rate to 11Meg with > our cisco gear at work at home it works at 54Meg. Okay. I looked at this a couple of months ago: http://linux-bcom4301.sourceforge.net/go/progress and this is what lead me to my statement above. There are lots of folk who, like me, think it doesn't work, won't work soon. You will find some here, and whether it does work for you or not, you might like to help beat Apple into submission on this. http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/10/12/airport-extreme-vs-linux/ http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/10/12/airport-extreme-vs-linux/feed/ It's Apple that chooses the chipset, and it's Apple that agrees to any NDAs that prohibit it from releasing specs and/or source. This seems to be about the best guide to getting it to work, but it's not for Every User: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194.html > > Pete > >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From pgraner at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 02:55:35 2006 From: pgraner at redhat.com (Pete Graner) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 21:55:35 -0500 Subject: Apple Updates? In-Reply-To: <43E6B7CE.2080804@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <91f88ee20602031705h730240a1t681e63b88a7ea8ed@mail.gmail.com> <43E414B0.70507@redhat.com> <43E530F1.5090300@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E54360.5040302@redhat.com> <43E6B7CE.2080804@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <43E6BAA7.3060306@redhat.com> John Summerfied wrote: > Pete Graner wrote: >> John Summerfied wrote: >> >>> Pete Graner wrote: >>> >>>> 17" that I'm having the following issues with: >>>> >>>> Sound modules won't load >>>> Once modules are loaded sound won't work: >>>> Can only get X to run with FBDev not ati or radeon driver >>>> Currently wireless both the BCM and airo drivers are hosed > > Pete's response surprised me considerably, so I've renewed my research; > I have a powerbook and I would like Linux on it, but I've never tried > hard because of the wireless issue. > > This also surprised me, but wasn't much help (wireless "just works," > more surprising as it's Debian). > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~unclem/linux/installing_debian_powerpc.html > John, It was discussed (and has been) numerous times on this list. The original post was by David Woodhouse here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2005-December/msg00820.html Since that time the bcm43xx driver has been in all the Fedora kernels with varying degrees of success. In fact I'm using it now on my powerbook :) Pete > > It has info that might help with the other problems though. > >>> >>> >>> Airport is not going to work any time soon. Not even with >>> ndiswrapper. If you want working (11g) wireless with Linux, best >>> prospect is probably a wireless card labelled "atheros." d-link and >>> netgear have such, but of course the nice OS X software configuration >>> won't work with those. Probably they won't even work at all on OS X >>> without some work. >>> >> >> The airport extreme (bcm43xx) *does* work has worked in the past. >> Recently its gone to pot with newer kernels and Network Manager since >> wpa was added. I can get it to work by forcing the rate to 11Meg with >> our cisco gear at work at home it works at 54Meg. > > Okay. > I looked at this a couple of months ago: > http://linux-bcom4301.sourceforge.net/go/progress and this is what lead > me to my statement above. > > There are lots of folk who, like me, think it doesn't work, won't work > soon. You will find some here, and whether it does work for you or not, > you might like to help beat Apple into submission on this. > http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/10/12/airport-extreme-vs-linux/ > > http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/10/12/airport-extreme-vs-linux/feed/ > > It's Apple that chooses the chipset, and it's Apple that agrees to any > NDAs that prohibit it from releasing specs and/or source. > > This seems to be about the best guide to getting it to work, but it's > not for Every User: > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194.html > > > >> >> Pete >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- Pete Graner email: Senior Manager Office: 978.392.2476 Base OS Engineering Mobile: 910.391.7621 Red Hat Inc. http://www.redhat.com From linxt at comcast.net Mon Feb 6 03:25:13 2006 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 19:25:13 -0800 Subject: No floppy or CD/DVD after install Message-ID: <200602051925.13563.linxt@comcast.net> I have installed FC5.2 on my computer 3 times now. Each time the nodes for /media/floppy and /media/cdrecorder are not being created. The /media directory is there but it's empty. Both devices exist (installed from DVD) as shown in /dev: ls -l /dev/fd* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Feb 5 00:45 /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd brw-rw---- 1 tom floppy 2, 0 Feb 5 00:46 /dev/fd0 brw-rw---- 1 tom floppy 2, 84 Feb 5 00:46 /dev/fd0u1040 brw-rw---- 1 tom floppy 2, 88 Feb 5 00:46 /dev/fd0u1120 brw-rw---- 1 tom floppy 2, 28 Feb 5 00:46 /dev/fd0u1440 brw-rw---- 1 tom floppy 2, 124 Feb 5 00:46 /dev/fd0u1600 ls -l /dev/cd* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 5 00:45 /dev/cdrom -> hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 5 00:45 /dev/cdwriter -> hdc Looking in bugzilla, I found bug 177589 which is similar but doesn't provide me with any insight into my problem. I haven't been able to use mknod because I don't have the major/minor numbers for these devices. When I tried to download the source code per the instructions in the release notes, it failed. Can someone please send me the major/minor numbers for those devices or provide some other way to access them. Thanks, Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 6 05:28:44 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:58:44 +0530 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> Message-ID: <43E6DE8C.1040700@fedoraproject.org> Hi > > My goal is not to bash the project here. I'm just saying that I for > one am totally lost as to what direction the project is headed in, and > based on the amount of back and forth conversation on this list, it > seems a lot of people are in the same boat. Is there some vast > repository of design goal and policy documents that I'm missing > somewhere? http://fedora.redhat.com/About. Of course end users have different opinions on the project. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Mon Feb 6 06:17:12 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 14:17:12 +0800 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> Message-ID: <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> D Canfield wrote: > John Summerfied wrote: > >> The joys of a rolling beta:-) >> >> If you don't like the way Fedora works, try RHEL or its clones such as >> Centos, WBEL, or if you still want the latest technology try >> Ubuntu/Kubuntu with releases each October and April with the latest, >> and has few if any feature changes within the support life. >> >> Read the docs closely, like FC they're not for everyone. >> > > This has got to be my single biggest pet peeve about Fedora right now. > Whenever discussion of why a procedure or policy is the way it is, we > get one of two conflicting answers. Either, it's because things have to > be as easy as possible for Grandma to be able to sit down and start > using Fedora, *or* Fedora is a fast-moving collection of bleeding edge > software, so it might break... and if you can't deal with that, go use > Ubuntu. or something... > > While I suppose the case could be made that those two goals don't > absolutely have to conflict, it does seem rather pointless to try to > serve both masters. If Fedora releases are never "stable" and always > carry a warning label, why bother designing them to be accessible to the > common end user? A lot of times it really feels like nobody knows who > is supposed to be using this distribution. Fedora is a test platform for new software technologies, including, one presumes, usbility and accessibility. A problem with new technolgies is that they sometimes don't work, and that's where Fedora comes in: it gets a lot of guinea pigs together to test those new technolgies. On the various servers I run and which _must_ work, I run WBEL (RHEL clone), Debian (Woody & Sarge). On my Toshiba Satellite I run FC3, because It did run when I installed it and fulfilled my requirements). My Acer Aspire would be running FC5test?? had it worked; instead it's got SUSE 10.0. At work I run FC3 (mostly) and Ubuntu (sometimes) and my wife has Ubuntu where her wireless Just Works. I figure that if one of the desktops breaks, it affects one user: a broken server hurts lots. > > I use FC on my desktop/laptop because I believe it has made me better at > administering my RHEL-based servers, and because of the broad support by > 3rd party packagers (I can't use RHEL on my desktop... it's just too far > behind to be feasible most of the time). I nearly took everyone's > advice and switched to Ubuntu a few months ago because things just > generally seemed to work better there, even in development. However, I > quickly realized just how far I'd be drifting from RHEL if I stayed > there, so instead I decided to come back to FC for a while and see if I > could help improve the distro that I've grown so accustomed to over the > years. Unfortunately, as I've been on the devel list, there really > seems to be a lack of focus or direction in the project, and even the > Red hat guys seem to contradict each other half the time. > So, for now it just seems to be a lot of people working on whatever > projects they "own" until the buzzer sounds for a test release. Then > after a few releases, things are finally declared stable and a release > is made. After which, everything continues to be updated with no > apparent limits other than "try not to break too much stuff at once." > > My goal is not to bash the project here. I'm just saying that I for one > am totally lost as to what direction the project is headed in, and based > on the amount of back and forth conversation on this list, it seems a > lot of people are in the same boat. Is there some vast repository of > design goal and policy documents that I'm missing somewhere? I reiterate, the Fedora Project is for testing and evaluating new technologies. If you can't deal with that, then it's not for you. If you insist on using Fedora Project but want to reduce the hazards, keep on the release prior to the latest: advance to FC4 when FC5 is out. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From buildsys at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 09:01:54 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 04:01:54 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060206 changes Message-ID: <200602060901.k1691s53024943@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: NetworkManager-0.5.1-10.cvs20060205 ----------------------------------- * Sun Feb 05 2006 Dan Williams 0.5.1-10.cvs20060205 - Workarounds for madwifi/Atheros cards - Do better with non-SSID-broadcasting access points - Fix hangs when access points change settings * Thu Feb 02 2006 Dan Williams 0.5.1-9.cvs20060202 - Own /var/run/NetworkManager, fix SELinux issues bash-3.1-6 ---------- * Sun Feb 05 2006 Tim Waugh 3.1-6 - Patchlevel 7. * Wed Jan 18 2006 Tim Waugh - Removed inaccuracies from %description (bug #178189). epiphany-1.9.6-2 ---------------- * Sun Feb 05 2006 Matthias Clasen 1.9.6-2 - Update requires file-4.16-6 ----------- * Sat Feb 04 2006 Radek Vok??l 4.16-6 - xen patch, recognizes Xen saved domain * Fri Jan 13 2006 Radek Vokal 4.16-5 - fix for 64bit arrays * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt kdenetwork-7:3.5.1-1 -------------------- * Sun Feb 05 2006 Than Ngo 7:3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 kdesdk-3.5.1-1 -------------- * Sun Feb 05 2006 Than Ngo 3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 kdeutils-6:3.5.1-1 ------------------ * Sun Feb 05 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 kdevelop-9:3.3.1-1 ------------------ * Sun Feb 05 2006 Than Ngo 9:3.3.1-1 - 3.3.1 kdewebdev-6:3.5.1-1 ------------------- * Sun Feb 05 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-1 - 3.5.1 mozilla-37:1.7.12-4 ------------------- * Sun Feb 05 2006 Christopher Aillon 37:1.7.12-4 - Fix CVE-2005-4134, CVE-2006-0292, CVE-2006-0296 openoffice.org-1:2.0.1.1-10.2 ----------------------------- * Thu Feb 02 2006 Caolan McNamara - 1:2.0.1.1-10 - reshuffle bridge patch - reimplement lang from locale patch redhat-artwork-0.237-1 ---------------------- * Sun Feb 05 2006 Matthias Clasen 0.237-1 - Fix Bluecurve-inverse wait cursor ruby-1.8.4-3 ------------ * Mon Feb 06 2006 Akira TAGOH - 1.8.4-3 - ruby-1.8.4-no-eaccess.patch: backported from ruby CVS to avoid conflict between newer glibc. (#179835) sound-juicer-2.13.4-3 --------------------- * Sun Feb 05 2006 Christopher Aillon 2.13.4-3 - Fix broken Requires wpa_supplicant-0.5.1-1 ---------------------- * Sun Feb 05 2006 Dan Williams 0.5.1-1 - Update to 0.5.1 - Add WE auth fallback to actually work with older drivers xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.7.3-3 -------------------------- * Sun Feb 05 2006 Mike A. Harris 6.5.7.3-3 - Updated radeon.xinf to be up to date with the xf86PciInfo.h from the Xorg X server 1.0.1-1 source. This should account for all supported Radeon models now modulo errors/omissions. Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- ccs-devel - 1.0.2-3.1.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.2-3.1 gulm - 1.0.4-2.FC5.1.ppc requires ccs Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjava-2.8.so()(64bit) libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjni-2.8.so()(64bit) systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390x requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 From camilo at mesias.co.uk Mon Feb 6 10:09:36 2006 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:09:36 +0000 Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? Message-ID: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> Hi, I have a machine which seems to have an unreliable CDROM drive, it has a sufficient level of read errors to consistently fail a CD based install, even when the media has been checked and verified on another machine. I was trying to find out how to do a network install but couldn't find any relevant documentation. The GUI doesn't hint at the possibility of network install. Is a network install still possible with FC5 t2, and how would I go about triggering it (the server side is not a problem)? Thanks, -Cam -- camilo at mesias.co.uk <-- From psavoie1783 at rogers.com Mon Feb 6 10:29:37 2006 From: psavoie1783 at rogers.com (Phil Savoie) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 05:29:37 -0500 Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? In-Reply-To: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> References: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> Message-ID: <200602060529.37507.psavoie1783@rogers.com> Hi Cam, I have not tried FC5 yet but with all other FC distros, once you throw in the CD and boot, at the linux boot prompt you can try "linux askmethod" without the quotes. This has brought up a network install in the past. Hope this helps. Phil On Monday 06 February 2006 05:09, Cam wrote: > Hi, > > I have a machine which seems to have an unreliable CDROM drive, it has a > sufficient level of read errors to consistently fail a CD based install, > even when the media has been checked and verified on another machine. I > was trying to find out how to do a network install but couldn't find any > relevant documentation. The GUI doesn't hint at the possibility of > network install. Is a network install still possible with FC5 t2, and > how would I go about triggering it (the server side is not a problem)? > > Thanks, > > -Cam > > -- > camilo at mesias.co.uk <-- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 6 10:48:31 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:18:31 +0530 Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? In-Reply-To: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> References: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> Message-ID: <43E7297F.3060100@fedoraproject.org> Cam wrote: > Hi, > > I have a machine which seems to have an unreliable CDROM drive, it has > a sufficient level of read errors to consistently fail a CD based > install, even when the media has been checked and verified on another > machine. I was trying to find out how to do a network install but > couldn't find any relevant documentation. The GUI doesn't hint at the > possibility of network install. Is a network install still possible > with FC5 t2, and how would I go about triggering it (the server side > is not a problem)? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/ -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From monty19 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 6 11:08:25 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 20:08:25 +0900 Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? References: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> Message-ID: Yes you can, and yes it works well. I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 with a completely dead cd-rom drive. Despite that I am able to boot the machine and install Fedora on it. Obviously without a CD-ROM drive I need a completely alternate boot method. Enter this image: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/images/diskboot.img This may come in useful for you, if you are having trouble even booting from CD. Use dd or rawrite to put the image on a USB pen drive, or something similar (in my case a second HDD in the Media Bay since the Inspiron 8000 is incapable of booting to USB....) and you can start the install and go about it by any means necessary. If you can still boot off the CD you can probably do 'linux askmethod' when booting to bring up the other options, or download this iamge: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/images/boot.iso and burn to CD in order to boot and go about installation. Cpl Montleon USMC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cam" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 7:09 PM Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? > Hi, > > I have a machine which seems to have an unreliable CDROM drive, it has a > sufficient level of read errors to consistently fail a CD based install, > even when the media has been checked and verified on another machine. I > was trying to find out how to do a network install but couldn't find any > relevant documentation. The GUI doesn't hint at the possibility of network > install. Is a network install still possible with FC5 t2, and how would I > go about triggering it (the server side is not a problem)? > > Thanks, > > -Cam > > -- > camilo at mesias.co.uk <-- > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From sgrubb at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 11:18:44 2006 From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 06:18:44 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <20060205192649.GM23057@vianova.fi> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E64B45.4090003@insight.rr.com> <20060205192649.GM23057@vianova.fi> Message-ID: <200602060618.44644.sgrubb@redhat.com> On Sunday 05 February 2006 14:26, Ville Herva wrote: > I small note: I think egrep -v "gpg-pubkey|kernel" will also match > something like "fookernel" if such package name will ever appear. In the last version, I used "egrep -vw" which is supposed to do a word match and not a partial match. -Steve From gazzerh at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 11:58:23 2006 From: gazzerh at gmail.com (Garry Harthill) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:58:23 +0000 Subject: HTTP installation not working Message-ID: <1fcc9e320602060358k25b0d7cbg@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have been trying to do an HTTP installation from various mirrors on the internet. For example the redhat servers. I use these settings: Website Name: download.fedora.redhat.com Fedora Core Directory: /pub/fedora/linux/core/developement/i386 It comes back saying it can't find /pub/fedora/linux/core/developement/i386/Fedora/repodata/repomd.xml. Thats because it actually lives in /pub/fedora/linux/core/developement/i386/repodata/repomd.xml. I can't specify the exact location because it bolts Fedora/repodata/repomd.xml on the end of every location. Am I doing something wrong? Cheers, Garry From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Mon Feb 6 12:02:25 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 23:02:25 +1100 Subject: No floppy (or CD/DVD) after install In-Reply-To: <200602051925.13563.linxt@comcast.net> References: <200602051925.13563.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43E73AD1.8040204@bigpond.net.au> Thomas Taylor wrote: >I have installed FC5.2 on my computer 3 times now. Each time the nodes >for /media/floppy and /media/cdrecorder are not being created. The /media >directory is there but it's empty. > > I think I read somewhere that it is udev's job to create the folders under /media/ as removable media is detected and removed. Currently my /media directory on FC5t2 + updates is empty as well. If I stick in a DVD video, a folder with the title of the DVD (eg Planet_Of_The_Apes), and also totem tries to play it, but given FC has no mpeg decoder, it just gives an error message. Also, a desktop icon with the title is created: I use this to eject to DVD from the context menu. >... >Looking in bugzilla, I found bug 177589 which is similar but doesn't provide >me with any insight into my problem. > >I haven't been able to use mknod because I don't have the major/minor numbers >for these devices. When I tried to download the source code per the >instructions in the release notes, it failed. > > Floppy disk insertion is not detectable; instead nautilus Computer shows Floppy Drive. Context menu Mount Volume displays a small dialog with an X, but no text, then another error dialog is shown over the top "Error" "X Unable to mount media. There is probably no media in the drive". This is shown immediately, without lighting the FDD LED (I understand that accessing the disk is the only way to detect if there is a disk in the drive, and this is _not_ being done). if I su and: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt the disk is mounted OK and double clicking the Floppy Drive entry shows the contents of the disk OK, and a desktop icon is shown with the title mnt !?! (perhaps if the disk has no title, then it causes a problem for the current code ?) Neither of the context menus on for unmount manage to unmount the disk. df displays an error: df: '/mnt': Input/output error # umount /dev/fd0 is successful at dismounting the disk. >Can someone please send me the major/minor numbers for those devices or >provide some other way to access them. > Can you try the tests I tried above, and respond here ? If no help, maybe useful : ? # ll /dev/{cd*,fd0} lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 (date time) /dev/cdrom -> hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 (date time) /dev/cdwriter -> hdc brw-rw---- 1 dave floppy 2, 0 (date time) /dev/fd0 DaveT. From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Mon Feb 6 12:15:14 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:15:14 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <200602060618.44644.sgrubb@redhat.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E64B45.4090003@insight.rr.com> <20060205192649.GM23057@vianova.fi> <200602060618.44644.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E73DD2.1070201@insight.rr.com> Steve Grubb wrote: > On Sunday 05 February 2006 14:26, Ville Herva wrote: >> I small note: I think egrep -v "gpg-pubkey|kernel" will also match >> something like "fookernel" if such package name will ever appear. > > In the last version, I used "egrep -vw" which is supposed to do a word match > and not a partial match. > > -Steve > I tried out your latest script with the -vw option and it matched anything with kernel within it. The addition of the filter is very helpful for eliminating the kernel and pubkey entries. For test 2, what are you searching for? I eliminated this portion from a modified version which originated from the script you posted because I was more concerned with multiple versions vs. mismatched versions which I am not really sure what a mismatched version actually is. Thanks for the work that you put into the script. It works the best compared to other similar scripts submitted so far. Thanks also to Jef and Ville for postings related to detecting multiple version rpm messes within the rpm database. Jim From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Mon Feb 6 13:10:32 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:10:32 +1100 Subject: HTTP installation not working In-Reply-To: <1fcc9e320602060358k25b0d7cbg@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fcc9e320602060358k25b0d7cbg@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E74AC8.5080806@bigpond.net.au> Garry Harthill wrote: >Hi, >I have been trying to do an HTTP installation from various mirrors on >the internet. For example the redhat servers. I use these settings: >Website Name: download.fedora.redhat.com >Fedora Core Directory: /pub/fedora/linux/core/developement/i386 > >It comes back saying it can't find >/pub/fedora/linux/core/developement/i386/Fedora/repodata/repomd.xml. >Thats because it actually lives in >/pub/fedora/linux/core/developement/i386/repodata/repomd.xml. I can't >specify the exact location because it bolts Fedora/repodata/repomd.xml >on the end of every location. > >Am I doing something wrong? > > developement -> development just in case you just have a path error. I think the installer tries multiple places relative to the path you give: Fedora/base/stage2.img and disc1/Fedora/base/stage2.img for example in case you have the cd isos mounted in such named folders. ps. I don't get that far because there is some issue with the keymapping on the keyboard. DaveT. From camilo at mesias.co.uk Mon Feb 6 13:16:47 2006 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 13:16:47 +0000 Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? In-Reply-To: <43E7297F.3060100@fedoraproject.org> References: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> <43E7297F.3060100@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43E74C3F.2000606@mesias.co.uk> Thanks all for the info - I can give it a try now. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/ Rahul, the links you gave were very top level and didn't cover network install. Even searching within them it wasn't easy to find the answer to my question (how to initiate network install on FC5 t2). The first one claimed "Network installation does not work in the current development tree" and the second one was headed "Fedora Core 4...". Given the answer by one of the kind responses here, I was able to search for "askmethod" and find it on the anaconda isolinux options wiki page. Do you think this could be more prominent in the documentation (wiki or release notes)? Cheers, -Cam -- camilo at mesias.co.uk <-- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 6 13:54:49 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:24:49 +0530 Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? In-Reply-To: <43E74C3F.2000606@mesias.co.uk> References: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> <43E7297F.3060100@fedoraproject.org> <43E74C3F.2000606@mesias.co.uk> Message-ID: <43E75529.6030003@fedoraproject.org> Cam wrote: > Thanks all for the info - I can give it a try now. > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide >> http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/ > > > Rahul, the links you gave were very top level and didn't cover network > install. Even searching within them it wasn't easy to find the answer > to my question (how to initiate network install on FC5 t2). The first > one claimed "Network installation does not work in the current > development tree" Last time I checked which was a week or so back, it didnt work for many people. I dont do daily installations from the rawhide tree to check. If anyone else is doing that feel free to update the testing guide to provide the latest information. > and the second one was headed "Fedora Core 4...". The network installation method hasnt changed for years. > > Given the answer by one of the kind responses here, I was able to > search for "askmethod" and find it on the anaconda isolinux options > wiki page. Do you think this could be more prominent in the > documentation (wiki or release notes)? It is part of the installation guide. The development tree wouldnt have a specific installation guide so you will have to refer to the prior release documents. Wiki is meant for more volatile content. Release notes would provide in general only the major highlights between releases. Any help to document changes more prominently is welcome. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl Mon Feb 6 14:06:24 2006 From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 15:06:24 +0100 Subject: Widescreen 1440x900 resolution In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602032158q53512ccarc7682ac3b2c5db84@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0602032158q53512ccarc7682ac3b2c5db84@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060206140624.GC1782@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 11:58:48PM -0600, Jonathan Berry wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Okay, system-config-display has a generic LCD 1440x900 monitor in it, > but is does not have a 1440x900 resolution mode. Or rather, I guess > it is xorg that does not have the mode. What does it take to get this > added as a "natively" supported mode? Probably file a bug against some part of xorg, maybe xserver? > It works great if I add the > following Modeline: > Modeline "1440x900" 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 -HSync +Vsync > This yeilds 1440x900 at 60 Hz (found randomly on the Internet and works great). man gtf next time ;) Regards, -- Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling Warsaw University | http://www.icm.edu.pl | tel. +48 (22) 5540810 From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Mon Feb 6 14:07:44 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:07:44 +1100 Subject: keyboard incorrectly mapped on boot.iso images Message-ID: <43E75830.50702@bigpond.net.au> Todays installer boot.iso images are causing a problem with my notebook (hp omnibook 4150). At the boot: prompt, all keys entered are displayed correctly. : linux text or : enter (for gui) I choose ftp or http setup, then at the FTP Setup name/directory prompt, when I try to type I get things like: type displays: w z a q m , z w q a numbers are screwed. (need to hold shift to see numbers). all the punctation and symbols aren't so good either. It could just be an RW CD gone bad, so let me know if you can repeat this, and I'll bz it. If I type the wrong keys to get the right letters, the installer does proceed with the correct text entered. (but text mode fails due to no sqlite: see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176492) DaveT. From canfield at uindy.edu Mon Feb 6 14:15:34 2006 From: canfield at uindy.edu (D Canfield) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:15:34 -0500 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E6DE8C.1040700@fedoraproject.org> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6DE8C.1040700@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43E75A06.2050505@uindy.edu> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > >> >> My goal is not to bash the project here. I'm just saying that I for >> one am totally lost as to what direction the project is headed in, >> and based on the amount of back and forth conversation on this list, >> it seems a lot of people are in the same boat. Is there some vast >> repository of design goal and policy documents that I'm missing >> somewhere? > > > http://fedora.redhat.com/About. Of course end users have different > opinions on the project. > I re-read all of that before posting last night. My point is more that there are really no guidelines to how the project moves in terms of development. What does a "stable" release mean to users, for example? The kernel and KDE seem to roll right along in a stable release, but other packages appear to be frozen. I've also seen reference by Red Hat developers from time to time that a "design goal for the upcoming FCx is to..." Is this info floating around somewhere, or just water-cooler chat by RH employees? Am I being clear about this at all? To me, it seems that the About page has a mission statement and some feature highlights, but nowhere in the wiki can I find anything along the lines of true project management. I guess that's what I'm getting at. And again, I'm not saying that what's happening now isn't working, but just that it seems we're sending mixed signals to people. DC From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Mon Feb 6 14:27:11 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:27:11 +1100 Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? In-Reply-To: References: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> Message-ID: <43E75CBF.5070403@bigpond.net.au> Jason Montleon wrote: > Yes you can, and yes it works well. I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 with > a completely dead cd-rom drive. Despite that I am able to boot the > machine and install Fedora on it. Obviously without a CD-ROM drive I > need a completely alternate boot method. Enter this image: > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/images/diskboot.img > > > This may come in useful for you, if you are having trouble even > booting from CD. Use dd or rawrite to put the image on a USB pen > drive, or something similar (in my case a second HDD in the Media Bay > since the Inspiron 8000 is incapable of booting to USB....) and you > can start the install and go about it by any means necessary. eg if you already have a booting linux system with grub, get/copy: diskboot.img and memdisk and setup grub by adding (from memory): title fedora-install kernel /memdisk/memdisk #which is often /boot/memdisk/memdisk (you need to get this as well) initrd /memdisk/diskboot.img #ditto and use eg hard disk file location eg2: if you have an internal server that you can put tftp + dhcp server on, use the pxeboot: vmlinux initrd.img and some config (found elsewhere). eg3 if the CD work enough to boot: : linux text askmethod and choose ftp straight from download.fedora.redhat.com and the appropriate architecture path. (although, text mode install fails during retrieving package info at the moment. - for me! see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176492) DaveT. From canfield at uindy.edu Mon Feb 6 14:34:52 2006 From: canfield at uindy.edu (D Canfield) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:34:52 -0500 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> John Summerfied wrote: >> >> My goal is not to bash the project here. I'm just saying that I for >> one am totally lost as to what direction the project is headed in, >> and based on the amount of back and forth conversation on this list, >> it seems a lot of people are in the same boat. Is there some vast >> repository of design goal and policy documents that I'm missing >> somewhere? > > > I reiterate, the Fedora Project is for testing and evaluating new > technologies. If you can't deal with that, then it's not for you. If > you insist on using Fedora Project but want to reduce the hazards, > keep on the release prior to the latest: advance to FC4 when FC5 is out. From http://fedora.redhat.com/About/: "Why should I use Fedora? Because Fedora is the best collection of *stable* and *innovative* software available in the open source world." That doesn't say to me "rolling beta" or "...the Fedora Project is for testing and evaluating new technologies. If you can't deal with that, then it's not for you." And that's the point I'm trying to make. If the project is truly a "rolling beta" as you put it, then why have releases at all? And why recruit users at all (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors)? If everyone is happy to make Fedora a constantly moving target, that's perfectly fine. I just think if the goals were more clearly stated and understood, it would help answer a number of questions, such as the one that started this thread. DC From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 6 14:52:23 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:22:23 +0530 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E75A06.2050505@uindy.edu> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6DE8C.1040700@fedoraproject.org> <43E75A06.2050505@uindy.edu> Message-ID: <43E762A7.9000506@fedoraproject.org> D Canfield wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Hi >> >>> >>> My goal is not to bash the project here. I'm just saying that I for >>> one am totally lost as to what direction the project is headed in, >>> and based on the amount of back and forth conversation on this list, >>> it seems a lot of people are in the same boat. Is there some vast >>> repository of design goal and policy documents that I'm missing >>> somewhere? >> >> >> >> http://fedora.redhat.com/About. Of course end users have different >> opinions on the project. >> > I re-read all of that before posting last night. My point is more > that there are really no guidelines to how the project moves in terms > of development. What does a "stable" release mean to users, for example? Fedora in general tries to stay close to upstream as much as possible. "stable" here would mean robustness and not stagnant or frozen packages. Fedora does not use the term "stable releases" formally to avoid this confusion. http://fedora.redhat.com/About/schedule/. A GA would generally mean that these packages are considered to be robust and consumable for end users. If they are not robust or does not satisfy the typical use cases yet, they would in general be disabled by default. This was the case for example SELinux in Fedora Core 3 or Network Manager in any of the Fedora releases so far. > The kernel and KDE seem to roll right along in a stable release, but > other packages appear to be frozen. Depends on the package maintainers and whether the updates are considered to be intrusive by them. Intrusiveness would be a measure of modularity, packages dependencies, number of developers and package maintainers that would have to be involved in any given set of updates, estimate of QA work, potential regressions etc. > I've also seen reference by Red Hat developers from time to time > that a "design goal for the upcoming FCx is to..." Is this info > floating around somewhere, or just water-cooler chat by RH employees? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RoadMap. Some of these goals might not be documented in detail but you can always ask in the fedora-devel list if you need more specific details. > Am I being clear about this at all? To me, it seems that the About > page has a mission statement and some feature highlights, but nowhere > in the wiki can I find anything along the lines of true project > management. I guess that's what I'm getting at. And again, I'm not > saying that what's happening now isn't working, but just that it seems > we're sending mixed signals to people. I dont see any inconsistency in the information provided that would result in mixed signals. There might some information missing and if thats case, provide me with a good list of questions that you would like to see answered within the project pages and I will try and get the information included. Note that the primary Fedora website is being transitioned from http://fedora.redhat.com to http://fedoraproject.org as indicated in the front page so some of the information might be missing in the current website. You can find the current status of this transition in the schedule and meeting minutes among other details at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 6 14:53:59 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:23:59 +0530 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E762A7.9000506@fedoraproject.org> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6DE8C.1040700@fedoraproject.org> <43E75A06.2050505@uindy.edu> <43E762A7.9000506@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43E76307.5020001@fedoraproject.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > D Canfield wrote: > >> Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>>> >>>> My goal is not to bash the project here. I'm just saying that I >>>> for one am totally lost as to what direction the project is headed >>>> in, and based on the amount of back and forth conversation on this >>>> list, it seems a lot of people are in the same boat. Is there some >>>> vast repository of design goal and policy documents that I'm >>>> missing somewhere? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://fedora.redhat.com/About. Of course end users have different >>> opinions on the project. >>> >> I re-read all of that before posting last night. My point is more >> that there are really no guidelines to how the project moves in terms >> of development. What does a "stable" release mean to users, for >> example? > > > Fedora in general tries to stay close to upstream as much as possible. > "stable" here would mean robustness and not stagnant or frozen > packages. Fedora does not use the term "stable releases" formally to > avoid this confusion. http://fedora.redhat.com/About/schedule/. A GA > would generally mean that these packages are considered to be robust > and consumable for end users. If they are not robust or does not > satisfy the typical use cases yet, they would in general be disabled > by default. This was the case for example SELinux in Fedora Core 3 or > Network Manager in any of the Fedora releases so far. I meant to say SELinux in Fedora Core 2. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From netwiz at crc.id.au Mon Feb 6 14:57:53 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 01:57:53 +1100 Subject: Dell Inspiron 8600 - Hot-swapping the bay. In-Reply-To: References: <5256d0b0602050619p7aec6135wdb5b783e37d96f7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1A19EADA-1646-4447-BA59-E97C7E1FB253@crc.id.au> On 06/02/2006, at 1:48 AM, Steven Haigh wrote: > On 06/02/2006, at 1:19 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> I've been trying to find information on how to hot-swap the drive >>> bay >>> on Dell laptops - ala windows style - and still get to use the DVD >>> drive after inserting it while the system is running - and not >>> having >>> the system hang when removing the bay while booted. >>> >>> Has anyone managed to do this? I haven't been able to find any >>> packages in FC's list that seems to manage this at all... >> >> Along this line of thinking what's the status of support for other >> hotplugging of things like docking stations on laptops? > > Interestingly enough, I've found the following script: > http://mikehardy.net/linux_latitude_d800/idectl > > What it seems to do is use hdparm to disable the secondary IDE > channel, and reenable it again when you use it. I've found that > this actually stops the machine from crashing when swapping out the > DVD drive. This is done by running 'idectl 1 off'. When you are > ready to swap the drive back in, you insert the drive, then run > 'idectl 1 on'. This then re-enables the secondary IDE controller, > and the kernel detects the drive again. > > What I have noticed however, is that when the drive is reattached/ > redetected, DMA mode is disabled. If cannot be re-enabled by using > 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc' - so the drive only runs in PIO mode. This > means performance really sucks. > > Does anyone know enough about why this happens to try to hack a > workaround for this? It would be awesome to get DMA running again > after a hot-swap-in. After testing this, I've lodged it as BZ #180161. -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From rmo at sunnmore.net Mon Feb 6 15:08:37 2006 From: rmo at sunnmore.net (Roy-Magne Mo) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:08:37 +0100 Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? In-Reply-To: <43E75529.6030003@fedoraproject.org> References: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> <43E7297F.3060100@fedoraproject.org> <43E74C3F.2000606@mesias.co.uk> <43E75529.6030003@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1139238518.2828.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> m? den 06.02.2006 klokka 19:24 (+0530) skreiv Rahul Sundaram: > Cam wrote: > > > Thanks all for the info - I can give it a try now. > > > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide > >> http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/ > > > > > > Rahul, the links you gave were very top level and didn't cover network > > install. Even searching within them it wasn't easy to find the answer > > to my question (how to initiate network install on FC5 t2). The first > > one claimed "Network installation does not work in the current > > development tree" > > Last time I checked which was a week or so back, it didnt work for many > people. I dont do daily installations from the rawhide tree to check. If > anyone else is doing that feel free to update the testing guide to > provide the latest information. Tested ftp-based install yesterday in a xen-guest, and it works :) You have to use the ordinary stage2.img instead of minstg2.img for text based installs too. -- Roy-Magne Mo From alan at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 15:22:59 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:22:59 -0500 Subject: Dell Inspiron 8600 - Hot-swapping the bay. In-Reply-To: <1A19EADA-1646-4447-BA59-E97C7E1FB253@crc.id.au> References: <5256d0b0602050619p7aec6135wdb5b783e37d96f7d@mail.gmail.com> <1A19EADA-1646-4447-BA59-E97C7E1FB253@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <20060206152259.GA18350@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 01:57:53AM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > >What I have noticed however, is that when the drive is reattached/ > >redetected, DMA mode is disabled. If cannot be re-enabled by using > >'hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc' - so the drive only runs in PIO mode. This > >means performance really sucks. > > > >Does anyone know enough about why this happens to try to hack a > >workaround for this? It would be awesome to get DMA running again > >after a hot-swap-in. > > After testing this, I've lodged it as BZ #180161. Not supported. And the framework needed to support it is no longer present either. The libata layer is getting the needed code developed for hot plug so should hopefully acquire support over time From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Mon Feb 6 15:12:38 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 23:12:38 +0800 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> Message-ID: <43E76766.4060109@herakles.homelinux.org> D Canfield wrote: > John Summerfied wrote: > > > > > From http://fedora.redhat.com/About/: > > "Why should I use Fedora? > Because Fedora is the best collection of *stable* and *innovative* > software available in the open source world." > > That doesn't say to me "rolling beta" or "...the Fedora Project is for > testing and evaluating new technologies. If you can't deal with that, > then it's not for you." From the more recent http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview#head-f4e74f5f5b3e8b494808b5b87a408de91d668d99 The operating system is Fedora Core. It comes out twice a year or so. It's completely free, and we're committed to keeping it that way. It's the best combination of stable and cutting-edge that exists in the free software world. Cutting edge. Stable. Choose one. > And that's the point I'm trying to make. If the project is truly a > "rolling beta" as you put it, then why have releases at all? And why > recruit users at all (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors)? If > everyone is happy to make Fedora a constantly moving target, that's > perfectly fine. I just think if the goals were more clearly stated and > understood, it would help answer a number of questions, such as the one > that started this thread. Look at the way Fedora Core changes. FC's kernel went from 2.6.9 to 2.6.12.1. KDE from 3.3 to 3.4. That's not stability, that's potentially changing APIs mid-release, and that doesn't take into account the series of 2.6.11 kernels that didn't work for many users. Have a look at the kernel changelog: rpm -q --changelog kernel-2.6.12-1.1381_FC3 | less (or whatever your latest is) and see how many are built from release-candidate code bases. I'm sure that Dave, Soeren, Stephen, Jeremy, Arjan, David and anyone I've missed tries hard to stabilise it, to make it reliable, but they cannot possibly do it all the time, and the changelog shows they don't. Stable has more than one meaning: 1. Unchanging. If programs work today, tomorrows updates won't prevent them from working because of incompatible changes. Further, they won't change the UI, today's configuration will keep on working and so on. 2. Reliable. It works, and it keeps on working. We don't really have either of those in Fedora, because significant new versions are introduced during the life of a release. The event that provoked Alexander was just one such change. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From netwiz at crc.id.au Mon Feb 6 15:28:46 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 02:28:46 +1100 Subject: Dell Inspiron 8600 - Hot-swapping the bay. In-Reply-To: <20060206152259.GA18350@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <5256d0b0602050619p7aec6135wdb5b783e37d96f7d@mail.gmail.com> <1A19EADA-1646-4447-BA59-E97C7E1FB253@crc.id.au> <20060206152259.GA18350@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On 07/02/2006, at 2:22 AM, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 01:57:53AM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: >>> What I have noticed however, is that when the drive is reattached/ >>> redetected, DMA mode is disabled. If cannot be re-enabled by using >>> 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc' - so the drive only runs in PIO mode. This >>> means performance really sucks. >>> >>> Does anyone know enough about why this happens to try to hack a >>> workaround for this? It would be awesome to get DMA running again >>> after a hot-swap-in. >> >> After testing this, I've lodged it as BZ #180161. > > Not supported. And the framework needed to support it is no longer > present either. The libata layer is getting the needed code developed > for hot plug so should hopefully acquire support over time Ahhh ok - this seems to make a lot of sense. My main wonder was if the kernel could detect if DMA was available and use it upon re- enabling the IDE controller (ie in the same code that re-enables the controller) - but it looks like you've answered that. I guess I'll see what the future of libata brings ;) -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From sgrubb at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 15:34:59 2006 From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:34:59 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <43E73DD2.1070201@insight.rr.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <200602060618.44644.sgrubb@redhat.com> <43E73DD2.1070201@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <200602061034.59946.sgrubb@redhat.com> On Monday 06 February 2006 07:15, Jim Cornette wrote: > I tried out your latest script with the -vw option and it matched > anything with kernel within it. Sorry, all my machines' rpm databases are screwed up in some way and never got it to run without complaining. New version below should be fine. > For test 2, what are you searching for? When you type "yum update rpm" on an x86_64 machine for example, it does not pull in neon for i386, it only grabs the x86_64 package. So, I have neon-0.24.7-10.1.i386 and neon-0.25.5-1.x86_64 on my system. This is not the way I want my system to be. Both versions should match. -Steve #!/bin/sh # Add any package here that is OK to have duplicates dups="gpg-pubkey kernel kernel-devel kernel-smp kernel-smp-devel" # This function removes any word that matches the dups above filter() { while [ $# -ge 1 ] do skip=0 for d in $dups do if [ "$1" = "$d" ] ; then skip=1 break fi done if [ $skip -eq 0 ] ; then echo $1 fi shift done } # Test 1. Look for multiple versions of the same package. This can occur # when something prevents yum/rpm from completing an upgrade. # We use # as a separator so that we can remove it later. # is not in any # package name that I know of and that's the basis of using it. list=`rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}#%{ARCH}\n" | sort | uniq -c | \ tr '#' ' ' | awk '$1 > 1 { print $2 } '` list2=`filter $list` if [ x"$list2" != "x" ] ; then echo "Duplicates were found:" echo $list2 | xargs rpm -q exit 1 fi # Test 2. Check for mismatched versions. This can occur on a multilib system # when yum does not upgrade both x86_64 and i386 packages at the same time. # Get all packages with 2 entries list=`rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}\n" | sort | uniq -c | \ awk '$1 == 2 { print $2 }'` list2=`filter $list` if [ x"$list2" = "x" ] ; then exit 0 fi # Of those, see which ones only have 1 version of the package list=`echo $list2 | tr ' ' '\n' | xargs rpm -q --queryformat \ "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n" | sort | uniq -c | \ awk '$1 == 1 { print $2 }'` if [ x"$list" = "x" ] ; then exit 0 fi echo "Version mismatches were found:" for l in $list do rpm -q --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n" $l done exit 1 From alan at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 15:37:30 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:37:30 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <200602041157.17339.prigault@oricom.ca> References: <200602041157.17339.prigault@oricom.ca> Message-ID: <20060206153730.GA24791@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 11:57:16AM -0500, Philippe Rigault wrote: > relevance of March 15 as the release date for FC5-final, which I see a the > worst possible choice in March, given the following release dates: > March 15 GNOME-2.14, koffice-1.5 > March 17 KDE-3.5.2 > > These would make Fecora Core 5 labeled as both "obsolete" and "unstable" if it It would need to be a large delay because moving to major new versions means invalidating a lot of the testing work in T1/T2. If sliding test2 a bit to fit these would have worked then maybe there would be a practical way to do it, but test3 > final is about polishing critical final bugs. Alan -- "He's been overclocked. All that beer you see him drinking ? - Coolant." - Adam Thornton From thedave at ix.netcom.com Mon Feb 6 15:48:52 2006 From: thedave at ix.netcom.com (Dave Atkins) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:48:52 -0600 Subject: Widescreen 1440x900 resolution In-Reply-To: <20060206140624.GC1782@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> References: <8767947e0602032158q53512ccarc7682ac3b2c5db84@mail.gmail.com> <20060206140624.GC1782@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> Message-ID: <1139240932.4535.14.camel@buckaroo> On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 15:06 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: . . . . > > This yeilds 1440x900 at 60 Hz (found randomly on the Internet and works great). > > man gtf next time ;) Wow! I've been doing this for years (with laptops with weird displays), and I never new that utility existed. This definitely needs to be added to the Installing X doc, and release notes, and the help page for system-config-display. Thanks, Dave. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 6 15:49:44 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:19:44 +0530 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E76766.4060109@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> <43E76766.4060109@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <43E77018.3070902@fedoraproject.org> Hi > > From the more recent > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview#head-f4e74f5f5b3e8b494808b5b87a408de91d668d99 > > The operating system is Fedora Core. It comes out twice a year or so. > It's completely free, and we're committed to keeping it that way. It's > the best combination of stable and cutting-edge that exists in the > free software world. > > Cutting edge. Stable. Choose one. We can strive to provide latest software while keeping it robust. > > Look at the way Fedora Core changes. FC's kernel went from 2.6.9 to > 2.6.12.1. KDE from 3.3 to 3.4. > > That's not stability, that's potentially changing APIs mid-release, > and that doesn't take into account the series of 2.6.11 kernels that > didn't work for many users. API or ABI stability in between updates is not generally guaranteed in Fedora. Any given release of any software including the kernel does not work in an ideal way for some users. > Stable has more than one meaning: > 1. Unchanging. If programs work today, tomorrows updates won't prevent > them from working because of incompatible changes. Further, they won't > change the UI, today's configuration will keep on working and so on. > 2. Reliable. It works, and it keeps on working. Like I said in an earlier in the context of releases and updates in Fedora it means robustness and not stagnancy. > > We don't really have either of those in Fedora, because significant > new versions are introduced during the life of a release. > > The event that provoked Alexander was just one such change. > I agree that major revisions of packages should go through updates-testing repository( https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-February/msg00220.html ) but that by no means is going to fix all the relevant issues especially when the feedback from users using the repository is low to non existent. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 16:08:41 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:08:41 -0500 Subject: elipse doesn't start (not related to thread issue) Message-ID: After updating today, I get this when trying to start eclipse: JVM terminated. Exit code=1 /usr/bin/java -jar startup.jar -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86_64 -launcher /usr/bin/eclipse -name Eclipse -showsplash 600 -exitdata 1a0013 -vm /usr/bin/java -vmargs -jar startup.jar From dwalsh at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 16:55:09 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:55:09 -0500 Subject: SELinux and NSS [was: Problem with NSS update - Firefox, Evolution] In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602032205t58ef1e2fs21b2e19dd989c74d@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0601281249w13ed78d9n509371d7fd8b7b59@mail.gmail.com> <43E020A8.5020706@redhat.com> <8767947e0602032205t58ef1e2fs21b2e19dd989c74d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E77F6D.3060104@redhat.com> Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 1/31/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > >> setsebool -P allow_execmem=1 >> > > This allows Evolution to run, but Firefox still complains about not > being able to do the security stuff. Still need to setenforce 0 to > access https. Besides, this seems like a rather far reaching "fix." > Not that I'm exactly sure what exactly it does.... > > Jonathan > > Rereading your posts. Are you sure this is an SELinux problem? If you setenforce 0, does firefox/evolution work? From gilboad at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 17:08:13 2006 From: gilboad at gmail.com (Gilboa Davara) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:08:13 +0200 Subject: elipse doesn't start (not related to thread issue) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1139245693.29774.1.camel@gilboa-work-dev> On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 11:08 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > After updating today, I get this when trying to start eclipse: > > JVM terminated. Exit code=1 > /usr/bin/java > -jar startup.jar > -os linux > -ws gtk > -arch x86_64 > -launcher /usr/bin/eclipse > -name Eclipse > -showsplash 600 > -exitdata 1a0013 > -vm /usr/bin/java > -vmargs > -jar startup.jar > Known bug: (with a semi-fix) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=174612 Gilboa From overholt at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 17:09:37 2006 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:09:37 -0500 Subject: elipse doesn't start (not related to thread issue) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060206170937.GC31402@redhat.com> * Neal Becker [2006-02-06 11:16]: > After updating today, I get this when trying to start eclipse: Yeah, it's something to do with the launcher patch we're applying not actually being used in the built launcher that's included. I think I've figured it out and hopefully it will be fixed in tomorrow's push. In the meantime, you can start it thusly: cd /usr/share/eclipse; ./eclipse HTH, Andrew From orion at cora.nwra.com Mon Feb 6 17:47:08 2006 From: orion at cora.nwra.com (Orion Poplawski) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:47:08 -0700 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E77018.3070902@fedoraproject.org> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> <43E76766.4060109@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E77018.3070902@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > I agree that major revisions of packages should go through > updates-testing repository( > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-February/msg00220.html > ) but that by no means is going to fix all the relevant issues > especially when the feedback from users using the repository is low to > non existent. I have updates-testing enabled on a couple machines here for testing, but have often found that either: - The time spent in updates-testing in so short (2-3 days?) that there's no time to test. - The bug I filed for one component was not responded to before being released, so why bother. - Orion From canfield at uindy.edu Mon Feb 6 17:54:25 2006 From: canfield at uindy.edu (D Canfield) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:54:25 -0500 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E77018.3070902@fedoraproject.org> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> <43E76766.4060109@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E77018.3070902@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43E78D51.4020300@uindy.edu> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > API or ABI stability in between updates is not generally guaranteed in > Fedora. Any given release of any software including the kernel does > not work in an ideal way for some users. > > Like I said in an earlier in the context of releases and updates in > Fedora it means robustness and not stagnancy. > So, what's the point of a release, really? Can you really call an API/ABI/release "stagnant" when the next release is (generally) only 6 months away? Why not take the debian methodology to the extreme and just have a testing and core repository with no releases? There's no interest in getting or keeping any end users, right? I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just trying to understand the point of the distro. It sounds like everyone is saying that Fedora is a concept car... looks pretty, sometimes runs, and not intended to be used by anyone. If that's the case, fine... I personally think the broad and diverse community will deteriorate and disappear within a few years (how often do you have to tell people to not use your distro before the start listening), but that's the perogative of the steering committee. I just think that if that's truly the goal, it should be more clearly spelled out in the project description. Don't try to pretend that there's some balance between features and stability. Call it "the fastest changing linux distribution in the world" and be done with it. Don't leave it to us to debate some contrived meaning of the word "stable" on the mailing lists. DC From selinux at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 18:33:43 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:33:43 -0800 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> Running latest rawhide. On my system, it appears that USB topology/devices are now being populated in /sys/bus/usb/ instead of /proc/bus/usb. Did this recently change (or did I just miss this ....)? -- Tom London From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 18:40:31 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:40:31 -0500 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060206184031.GB26977@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Tom London (selinux at gmail.com) said: > Running latest rawhide. > > On my system, it appears that USB topology/devices are now being > populated in /sys/bus/usb/ instead of /proc/bus/usb. > > Did this recently change (or did I just miss this ....)? /sys has been there for a while. We just recently stopped mounting usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb, as it's not really needed anymore with recent libusb. Bill From johannes at erdfelt.com Mon Feb 6 18:45:14 2006 From: johannes at erdfelt.com (Johannes Erdfelt) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:45:14 -0800 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> On Mon, Feb 06, 2006, Tom London wrote: > Running latest rawhide. > > On my system, it appears that USB topology/devices are now being > populated in /sys/bus/usb/ instead of /proc/bus/usb. > > Did this recently change (or did I just miss this ....)? I haven't checked rawhide recently, but you should be seeing the device nodes in /dev/bus/usb (via udev) now instead of /proc/bus/usb (via usbdevfs). JE From gstool at earthlink.net Mon Feb 6 18:52:54 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:52:54 -0600 Subject: kpdf - where is it? Message-ID: <1139251974.3306.1.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> After regressing to the old sqlite and finally getting yum update to work this morning, I updated about 500MB worth of packages. Since then, there is no kpdf on my system. Does anyone know what has caused that? Thanks. Gerry From selinux at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 19:05:53 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:05:53 -0800 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602061105o1d732111n7138f444cccbc6a6@mail.gmail.com> Sigh. vmware can no longer scan for USB devices. I've tried passing in the 'new location' (i.e. /sys/bus/usb), etc., but that crashes vmware. vmware appears not to like /dev/bus/usb (it is looking for a 'devices' directory). Posted this in the vmware support board...... From don_springall at hotmail.com Mon Feb 6 19:10:13 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:10:13 -0700 Subject: Wireless Message-ID: After today's rawhide update dhclient is started at boot time and does not pick up an ip address. So instead of doing an /sbin/ifup eth1 I have to do a /sbin/ifdown eth1 first before bringing up the wireless card. I have never been able to get the system to start the interface correctly I think because it tries to determine an IP address before network-manager is up and running. Anyone have any insights on what I should change ? My ifcfg-eth1 is below. # Please read /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt # for the documentation of these parameters. ONBOOT=no USERCTL=yes IPV6INIT=no PEERDNS=yes TYPE=Wireless DEVICE=eth1 HWADDR=00:13:10:6a:ea:b7 BOOTPROTO=dhcp NETMASK= DHCP_HOSTNAME= IPADDR= DOMAIN= ESSID=WirelessCity CHANNEL=1 MODE=Managed RATE=Auto [root at localhost network-scripts]# /sbin/ip addr 1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:02:3f:8a:a5:1f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: sit0: mtu 1480 qdisc noop link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 4: eth1: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:13:10:6a:ea:b7 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 172.17.186.240/16 brd 172.17.255.255 scope global eth1 inet6 fe80::213:10ff:fe6a:eab7/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever [root at localhost network-scripts]# From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 19:11:09 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:11:09 -0500 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602061105o1d732111n7138f444cccbc6a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> <4c4ba1530602061105o1d732111n7138f444cccbc6a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060206191109.GA2747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Tom London (selinux at gmail.com) said: > Sigh. vmware can no longer scan for USB devices. > > I've tried passing in the 'new location' (i.e. /sys/bus/usb), etc., > but that crashes vmware. > > vmware appears not to like /dev/bus/usb (it is looking for a 'devices' > directory). So, it's attempting to read the old 2.4-ish /proc/bus/usb/devices file, when it really should be scanning sysfs (or using HAL, or similar.) What specifically is it looking for usb devices for? Bill From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 19:11:35 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:11:35 -0500 Subject: Wireless In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060206191135.GB2747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Don Springall (don_springall at hotmail.com) said: > After today's rawhide update dhclient is started at boot time and does not > pick up an ip address. So instead of doing an /sbin/ifup eth1 I have to do > a /sbin/ifdown eth1 first before bringing up the wireless card. Did you shut down uncleanly before booting? Bill From selinux at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 19:16:38 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:16:38 -0800 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <20060206191109.GA2747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> <4c4ba1530602061105o1d732111n7138f444cccbc6a6@mail.gmail.com> <20060206191109.GA2747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602061116nb197e02xe71eca9b4cd4c352@mail.gmail.com> On 2/6/06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > So, it's attempting to read the old 2.4-ish /proc/bus/usb/devices > file, when it really should be scanning sysfs (or using HAL, or similar.) > > What specifically is it looking for usb devices for? > > Bill > When you startup a virtual machine, it scans for connected USB devices to 'connect' to the vm (e.g., printers). It also can 'detect' inserting of new devices (e.g., USB thumb drive). Starting a few kernel updates ago, this stopped working. tom -- Tom London From don_springall at hotmail.com Mon Feb 6 19:25:01 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:25:01 -0700 Subject: Wireless In-Reply-To: <20060206191135.GB2747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: >From: Bill Nottingham >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: Wireless >Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:11:35 -0500 > >Don Springall (don_springall at hotmail.com) said: > > After today's rawhide update dhclient is started at boot time and does >not > > pick up an ip address. So instead of doing an /sbin/ifup eth1 I have to >do > > a /sbin/ifdown eth1 first before bringing up the wireless card. > >Did you shut down uncleanly before booting? > >Bill It is hard to tell because I do not get the shutdown mesages most of the time. The screen just goes blank and then re-boots. It went down badly the first time after my yum update but after that it seems to be okay as I do not get and lost clusters being deleted at boot time. When I do get messages I have noticed that network manager fails to shut down properly often. From dcbw at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 19:38:08 2006 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 14:38:08 -0500 Subject: Wireless In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1139254688.6348.7.camel@dhcp83-115.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 12:25 -0700, Don Springall wrote: > not get and lost clusters being deleted at boot time. When I do get messages > I have noticed that network manager fails to shut down properly often. chkconfig --level 2345 NetworkManager on To get the appropriate layout: /etc/rc.d/rc1.d/K02NetworkManager /etc/rc.d/rc2.d/S98NetworkManager /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S98NetworkManager /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K02NetworkManager /etc/rc.d/rc0.d/K02NetworkManager /etc/rc.d/rc4.d/S98NetworkManager /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S98NetworkManager Then, stuff should shut down correctly. We need a better way of conditionally enabling this... Dan From sgrubb at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 19:41:01 2006 From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steven Grubb) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:41:01 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: audit-1.0.14-1.fc4 Message-ID: <200602061941.k16Jf1103547@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-099 2006-02-06 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : audit Version : 1.0.14 Release : 1.fc4 Summary : User space tools for 2.6 kernel auditing. Description : The audit package contains the user space utilities for storing and searching the audit records generate by the audit subsystem in the Linux 2.6 kernel. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Mon Feb 6 2006 Steve Grubb 1.0.14-1.fc4 - Change auditd to use custom daemonize to avoid race in init scripts - Update error message when deleting a rule that doesn't exist (#176239) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ aa0538e81971475385a14e86e80faf3f0e7a9a2b SRPMS/audit-1.0.14-1.fc4.src.rpm b4d273fc9752689180fa5efefcaadbc781ca6efd ppc/audit-1.0.14-1.fc4.ppc.rpm 9d3ca2df5d062316869a546b89d37ba0b6427dc7 ppc/audit-libs-1.0.14-1.fc4.ppc.rpm 543eb72bf88e467583fbc0170af1c635139ddd12 ppc/audit-libs-devel-1.0.14-1.fc4.ppc.rpm c8720583a97d3fef090ccd5f14f8ba06dd4c2e49 ppc/debug/audit-debuginfo-1.0.14-1.fc4.ppc.rpm a4d8655f70b6ee350364fa49af280249ff72867c x86_64/audit-1.0.14-1.fc4.x86_64.rpm 873123a03ab338db42f73943a2c9a900aa861d2e x86_64/audit-libs-1.0.14-1.fc4.x86_64.rpm e52c61a1cf192dcc438377bdc0f778baae9ceb98 x86_64/audit-libs-devel-1.0.14-1.fc4.x86_64.rpm ba991ba494f2de2c13dc72bbd17a003b5b8139e8 x86_64/debug/audit-debuginfo-1.0.14-1.fc4.x86_64.rpm c4e7053b12473d4c113e1ff51777aceae65bcb0c i386/audit-1.0.14-1.fc4.i386.rpm c773bbf8883590c7e7c9e8e9c330621d66c53779 i386/audit-libs-1.0.14-1.fc4.i386.rpm 5a6e72e463545c9ca7688e121ba5d30f1587c96b i386/audit-libs-devel-1.0.14-1.fc4.i386.rpm 8d27fc005d0d3b913b5426c2822b5bd44f03de78 i386/debug/audit-debuginfo-1.0.14-1.fc4.i386.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From bikehead at amberpoint.com Mon Feb 6 20:17:20 2006 From: bikehead at amberpoint.com (Brian Anderson) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:17:20 -0800 Subject: Wireless In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43E7AED0.1060203@amberpoint.com> Before today's rawhide NM was working OK for me, but after today (2/6) I too see behavior where the IP address isn't being picked up. NM shows all the APs in my area and attempts to connect, but fails. The notable message I get is: dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.reason it appears regardless of whether enforcement is on or not (just in case there was a suspicion it was selinux related). NM doesn't seem to have a problem with eth0 though. Don Springall wrote: > After today's rawhide update dhclient is started at boot time and does > not pick up an ip address. So instead of doing an /sbin/ifup eth1 I > have to do a /sbin/ifdown eth1 first before bringing up the wireless > card. > > I have never been able to get the system to start the interface > correctly I think because it tries to determine an IP address before > network-manager is up and running. > > Anyone have any insights on what I should change ? My ifcfg-eth1 is > below. > > # Please read /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt > # for the documentation of these parameters. > ONBOOT=no > USERCTL=yes > IPV6INIT=no > PEERDNS=yes > TYPE=Wireless > DEVICE=eth1 > HWADDR=00:13:10:6a:ea:b7 > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > NETMASK= > DHCP_HOSTNAME= > IPADDR= > DOMAIN= > ESSID=WirelessCity > CHANNEL=1 > MODE=Managed > RATE=Auto > > [root at localhost network-scripts]# /sbin/ip addr > 1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue > link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 > inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo > inet6 ::1/128 scope host > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast > qlen 1000 link/ether 00:02:3f:8a:a5:1f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff > 3: sit0: mtu 1480 qdisc noop > link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 > 4: eth1: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 > link/ether 00:13:10:6a:ea:b7 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff > inet 172.17.186.240/16 brd 172.17.255.255 scope global eth1 > inet6 fe80::213:10ff:fe6a:eab7/64 scope link > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > [root at localhost network-scripts]# > > -- . __o Brian "la lumaca" _`\<,_ (*)/ (*) From cmadams at hiwaay.net Mon Feb 6 20:31:34 2006 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:31:34 -0600 Subject: rawhide report: 20060206 changes In-Reply-To: <200602060901.k1691s53024943@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602060901.k1691s53024943@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060206203134.GA742422@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Build System said: > NetworkManager-0.5.1-10.cvs20060205 > ----------------------------------- > * Sun Feb 05 2006 Dan Williams 0.5.1-10.cvs20060205 > - Workarounds for madwifi/Atheros cards Should this work with madwifi-ng? I see that wpa_supplicant is built with the madwifi-ng headers. I put: INTERFACES=-iath0 DRIVERS=-Dmadwifi in /etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant and enabled NetworkManager, NetworkManagerDispatcher, and wpa_supplicant to start on boot. It seems that wpa_supplicant interferes with NM's scanning though; NM wouldn't find anything while wpa_supplicant was running and logged: Feb 6 15:26:42 cmathink NetworkManager: nm_device_802_11_wireless_scan (): nm_device_wireless_scan(ath0): couldn't trigger wireless scan. errno = 22 If I stop wpa_supplicant and try to connect to a WPA network with NM, I get: Error connecting to wireless network The requested wireless network requires security capabilities unsupported by your hardware. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From cjones at patriot.net Mon Feb 6 20:53:30 2006 From: cjones at patriot.net (Claude Jones) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 15:53:30 -0500 Subject: system unbootable - libpam.so.0 Message-ID: <200602061553.31100.cjones@patriot.net> I get failures on cusd, sshd, crond, and atd after today's updates. The system gets to hal which reports "OK", and then just stalls. Didn't write them down, but the messages in each case refer to libpam.so.0 problems -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA From gajownik at fedora.pl Mon Feb 6 21:20:20 2006 From: gajownik at fedora.pl (Dawid Gajownik) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:20:20 +0100 Subject: kpdf - where is it? In-Reply-To: <1139251974.3306.1.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> References: <1139251974.3306.1.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43E7BD94.5080109@fedora.pl> Dnia 02/06/2006 07:54 PM, U?ytkownik Gerry Tool napisa?: > Since then, there is no kpdf on my system. > > Does anyone know what has caused that? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=173836#c4 -- ^_* From patrick at wudika.de Tue Feb 7 03:17:08 2006 From: patrick at wudika.de (Patrick von der Hagen) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:17:08 -0500 Subject: strange problem with self-compiled software on FC 5 T2... Message-ID: <43E81134.6010703@wudika.de> Hi all, I have a very strange problem. A little program (mixture of C and C++) done by a friend of mine works fine on MS-Windows and on Debian Linux. Compiling on FC 5 T2 and todays rawhide works fine, but running it gives very strange results.... This is the crucial loop.... char c; int SatNr, MonatSat, TagSat, StundeSat, MinuteSat; double x, y, z, korr, SekundeSat; long j, JahrSat; for (j = 0; j < daten->anzSat; j++) { if (j == 11) { daten->beobachtungen[j].satNr = 12; daten->beobachtungen[j].xKoor = 0.0; daten->beobachtungen[j].yKoor = 0.0; daten->beobachtungen[j].zKoor = 0.0; daten->beobachtungen[j].Uhr = 0.0; } else { int rv = 0; std::cout << "j before fscanf: " << j << std::endl; rv = fscanf(input, "%s %d %lf %lf %lf %lf", &c, &SatNr, &x, &y, &z, &korr); std::cout << "fscanf-rv: " << rv << std::endl; std::cout << "j nach fscanf: " << j << std::endl; daten->beobachtungen[j].satNr = SatNr; daten->beobachtungen[j].xKoor = x * 1000.; daten->beobachtungen[j].yKoor = y * 1000.; daten->beobachtungen[j].zKoor = z * 1000.; daten->beobachtungen[j].Uhr = korr * 10e6; } } Using gcc-3.5 on Debian-Sarge runs as expected, but on T2 and Rawhide j is set to 0 after fscanf!!! Now my question: who is to blame and how to debug? Does this sound like a compiler-issue? Or could it be related to some library? On the one hand, I'd bet lots of money that this is some compiler-bug, on the other hand I don't dare to trust myself on this, that my friend has stumbled upon an compiler-bug, when FC 5 T2 has been compiled using that compiler without obvious problems.... Any suggestions? BTW, this isn't my sourcecode... I'd care to initialize all variables, and would care more about the fscanf-return-value, but that shouldn't be related to the problem here.... -- CU, Patrick. From don_springall at hotmail.com Mon Feb 6 21:35:40 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 14:35:40 -0700 Subject: Wireless Message-ID: >From: Dan Williams >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: Wireless >Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 14:38:08 -0500 > >On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 12:25 -0700, Don Springall wrote: > > not get and lost clusters being deleted at boot time. When I do get >messages > > I have noticed that network manager fails to shut down properly often. > >chkconfig --level 2345 NetworkManager on > >To get the appropriate layout: > >/etc/rc.d/rc1.d/K02NetworkManager >/etc/rc.d/rc2.d/S98NetworkManager >/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S98NetworkManager >/etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K02NetworkManager >/etc/rc.d/rc0.d/K02NetworkManager >/etc/rc.d/rc4.d/S98NetworkManager >/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S98NetworkManager > >Then, stuff should shut down correctly. We need a better way of >conditionally enabling this... > >Dan Okay that fixed Network-manager shutdowns. And the the other good news is that once I set essid= to a blank nm-applet then kicked in and connected me directly to the hot spot without intervention after signing onto gnome. Now If I could just get those ndiswrapper types to fix the strength calculation wireless life would be near perfect. I will have to find a spot with multiple hot-spots to see if the "connect to other wireless networks" in nm-applet works. Does anyone know if the acx100 driver is getting close to completion in Andrew Morton's MM tree ? From rodd at clarkson.id.au Mon Feb 6 21:46:43 2006 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:46:43 +1100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060202 changes In-Reply-To: <200602021553.k12FrHK7003484@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602021553.k12FrHK7003484@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139262403.24225.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 10:53 -0500, Build System wrote: > f-spot-0.1.8-2 > -------------- > * Wed Feb 01 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.1.8-2 > - Add sqlite3.patch to ensure that sqlite3 is used if both > sqlite2 and sqlite3 are installed. > Trying to run f-spot I get: [rodd at localhost ~]$ f-spot & [1] 24613 [rodd at localhost ~]$ Starting new FSpot server Unhandled Exception: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteSyntaxException: file is encrypted or is not a database in [0x0007f] Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteCommand:GetNextStatement (IntPtr pzStart, System.IntPtr pzTail, System.IntPtr pStmt) in [0x00022] (at /usr/src/build/687862-i386/BUILD/mono-1.1.13.2/mcs/class/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/SqliteCommand.cs:459) Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteCommand:ExecuteReader (CommandBehavior behavior, Boolean want_results, System.Int32 rows_affected) in [0x00005] (at /usr/src/build/687862-i386/BUILD/mono-1.1.13.2/mcs/class/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/SqliteCommand.cs:435) Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteCommand:ExecuteReader (CommandBehavior behavior) in [0x00002] (at /usr/src/build/687862-i386/BUILD/mono-1.1.13.2/mcs/class/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/SqliteCommand.cs:429) Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteCommand:ExecuteReader () in <0x00092> TagStore:LoadAllTags () in <0x0005c> TagStore:.ctor (Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteConnection connection, Boolean is_new) in <0x000c7> Db:.ctor (System.String path, Boolean create_if_missing) in <0x002f1> Driver:Main (System.String[] args) [1]+ Exit 1 f-spot [rodd at localhost ~]$ Do I bugzilla? R. -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From selinux at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 21:53:16 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:53:16 -0800 Subject: firefox: lots of calls to gettimeofday() Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602061353ia3947d5k9d28c442fe371a22@mail.gmail.com> Running latest rawhide, targeted/enforcing. I've noticed for the past few days that after a while, firefox-bin begins to consume lots of cycles: currently over 87 minutes worth on a machine I booted a few hours ago. If I 'strace -p' to firefox-bin, I get endless supply of: gettimeofday({1139262540, 344672}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 344832}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 344987}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 345562}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 347203}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 347355}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 347730}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 347887}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 348080}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 349651}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 349811}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 349957}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 350270}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 350425}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262540, 350571}, NULL) = 0 running as fast as my window can run. Every now and then I get a sprinkling of: read(5, "\372", 1) = 1 ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 gettimeofday({1139262717, 435932}, NULL) = 0 poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=43, events=POLLIN}, {fd=5, events=POLLIN, revents=POLLIN}], 5, 116) = 1 gettimeofday({1139262717, 444588}, NULL) = 0 mixed in. Is this 'normal'? Anyone else seeing something like this? tom -- Tom London From bikehead at amberpoint.com Mon Feb 6 21:52:54 2006 From: bikehead at amberpoint.com (Brian Anderson) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 13:52:54 -0800 Subject: Wireless In-Reply-To: <43E7AED0.1060203@amberpoint.com> References: <43E7AED0.1060203@amberpoint.com> Message-ID: <43E7C536.7060506@amberpoint.com> Well, I've been doing a bit more investigation of this. I am using the madwifi-ng driver (svn revision 1443) which was working fine with NetworkManager-0.5.1-8.cvs20060131, but stops working with NetworkManager-0.5.1-10.cvs20060205. I reverted to the previous version and NM connects. The message handler error I mentioned below appears for both versions, so it seems to be harmless. The messages that appear for the new version and not in the old are: NetworkManager: nm_device_is_802_3_ethernet: assertion 'dev != NULL' failed NetworkManager: nm_device_is_802_11_wireless: assertion 'dev != NULL' failed any ideas? Brian Anderson wrote: > Before today's rawhide NM was working OK for me, but after today (2/6) > I too see behavior where the IP address isn't being picked up. NM > shows all the APs in my area and attempts to connect, but fails. The > notable message I get is: > dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under > /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.reason > > it appears regardless of whether enforcement is on or not (just in > case there was a suspicion it was selinux related). > NM doesn't seem to have a problem with eth0 though. > > > > Don Springall wrote: > >> After today's rawhide update dhclient is started at boot time and >> does not pick up an ip address. So instead of doing an /sbin/ifup >> eth1 I have to do a /sbin/ifdown eth1 first before bringing up the >> wireless card. >> >> I have never been able to get the system to start the interface >> correctly I think because it tries to determine an IP address before >> network-manager is up and running. >> >> Anyone have any insights on what I should change ? My ifcfg-eth1 is >> below. >> >> # Please read /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt >> # for the documentation of these parameters. >> ONBOOT=no >> USERCTL=yes >> IPV6INIT=no >> PEERDNS=yes >> TYPE=Wireless >> DEVICE=eth1 >> HWADDR=00:13:10:6a:ea:b7 >> BOOTPROTO=dhcp >> NETMASK= >> DHCP_HOSTNAME= >> IPADDR= >> DOMAIN= >> ESSID=WirelessCity >> CHANNEL=1 >> MODE=Managed >> RATE=Auto >> >> [root at localhost network-scripts]# /sbin/ip addr >> 1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue >> link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 >> inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo >> inet6 ::1/128 scope host >> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >> 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc >> pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:02:3f:8a:a5:1f brd >> ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff >> 3: sit0: mtu 1480 qdisc noop >> link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 >> 4: eth1: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 >> link/ether 00:13:10:6a:ea:b7 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff >> inet 172.17.186.240/16 brd 172.17.255.255 scope global eth1 >> inet6 fe80::213:10ff:fe6a:eab7/64 scope link >> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >> [root at localhost network-scripts]# >> >> > -- . __o Brian "la lumaca" _`\<,_ (*)/ (*) From jreiser at BitWagon.com Mon Feb 6 22:06:04 2006 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 14:06:04 -0800 Subject: strange problem with self-compiled software on FC 5 T2... In-Reply-To: <43E81134.6010703@wudika.de> References: <43E81134.6010703@wudika.de> Message-ID: <43E7C84C.3090700@BitWagon.com> > Using gcc-3.5 on Debian-Sarge runs as expected, but on T2 and Rawhide j > is set to 0 after fscanf!!! Run under gdb, put a breakpoint on fscanf, upon arrival put a watchpoint on j: (gdb) print &j (gdb) watch *(int *)0x.... (gdb) continue > double x, y, z, korr, SekundeSat; > long j, JahrSat; It's conceivable that this is some fallout from the [impending ?] change to long double. Note that 'j' is declared just after some 'double' locals, and "%lf" appears in the fscanf. -- From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 6 22:13:48 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 23:13:48 +0100 Subject: anaconda dies when selecting optional packages Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0602061413g1b6928f4s17e5396fd90b9118@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, Refering to this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=180027 which is actually anaconda related rather than Kadischi's, is there any update for it yet ? -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From vherva at viasys.com Mon Feb 6 22:14:56 2006 From: vherva at viasys.com (Ville Herva) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 00:14:56 +0200 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <200602060618.44644.sgrubb@redhat.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <43E64B45.4090003@insight.rr.com> <20060205192649.GM23057@vianova.fi> <200602060618.44644.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060206221456.GN23057@vianova.fi> On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 06:18:44AM -0500, you [Steve Grubb] wrote: > On Sunday 05 February 2006 14:26, Ville Herva wrote: > > I small note: I think egrep -v "gpg-pubkey|kernel" will also match > > something like "fookernel" if such package name will ever appear. > > In the last version, I used "egrep -vw" which is supposed to do a word match > and not a partial match. Ah, I see. Anyhow, this works for me: ignore="kernel|kernel-smp|kernel-devel|gpg-pubkey" rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME} %{ARCH}\n" | sort | uniq -c | egrep -v '^ 1 ' | egrep -v "^ +[0123456789]+ +($ignore) " | gawk '{print $2}' | xargs -r rpm -q --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n" From linxt at comcast.net Mon Feb 6 22:26:56 2006 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:26:56 -0800 Subject: No floppy (or CD/DVD) after install In-Reply-To: <43E73AD1.8040204@bigpond.net.au> References: <200602051925.13563.linxt@comcast.net> <43E73AD1.8040204@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <200602061426.56402.linxt@comcast.net> Hi David: On Monday 06 February 2006 04:02, David Timms wrote: > Thomas Taylor wrote: > >I have installed FC5.2 on my computer 3 times now. Each time the nodes > >for /media/floppy and /media/cdrecorder are not being created. The /media > >directory is there but it's empty. > > I think I read somewhere that it is udev's job to create the folders > under /media/ as removable media is detected and removed. Currently my > /media directory on FC5t2 + updates is empty as well. > The folders are not being created and there are no entries for either device in either /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab. > If I stick in a DVD video, a folder with the title of the DVD (eg > Planet_Of_The_Apes), and also totem tries to play it, but given FC has > no mpeg decoder, it just gives an error message. Also, a desktop icon > with the title is created: I use this to eject to DVD from the context > menu. > > >... > >Looking in bugzilla, I found bug 177589 which is similar but doesn't > > provide me with any insight into my problem. > > > >I haven't been able to use mknod because I don't have the major/minor > > numbers for these devices. When I tried to download the source code per > > the instructions in the release notes, it failed. > > Floppy disk insertion is not detectable; instead nautilus Computer shows > Floppy Drive. Context menu Mount Volume displays a small dialog with an > X, but no text, then another error dialog is shown over the top "Error" > "X Unable to mount media. There is probably no media in the drive". This > is shown immediately, without lighting the FDD LED (I understand that > accessing the disk is the only way to detect if there is a disk in the > drive, and this is _not_ being done). > > if I su and: > mount /dev/fd0 /mnt > the disk is mounted OK and double clicking the Floppy Drive entry shows > the contents of the disk OK, and a desktop icon is shown with the title > mnt !?! (perhaps if the disk has no title, then it causes a problem for > the current code ?) > Neither of the context menus on for unmount manage to unmount the disk. > df displays an error: > df: '/mnt': Input/output error > # umount /dev/fd0 > is successful at dismounting the disk. > > >Can someone please send me the major/minor numbers for those devices or > >provide some other way to access them. > > Can you try the tests I tried above, and respond here ? > If no help, maybe useful : ? > # ll /dev/{cd*,fd0} > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 (date time) /dev/cdrom -> hdc > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 (date time) /dev/cdwriter -> hdc > brw-rw---- 1 dave floppy 2, 0 (date time) /dev/fd0 > DaveT. [root at linux2 ~]# mount /dev/fd0 /mnt [root at linux2 ~]# umount /mnt [root at linux2 ~]# mount /dev/hdc /mnt mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only [root at linux2 ~]# df /mnt Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hdc 11002 11002 0 100% /mnt [root at linux2 ~]# ll /dev/{cd*,fd0} lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 5 00:45 /dev/cdrom -> hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 5 00:45 /dev/cdwriter -> hdc brw-rw---- 1 tom floppy 2, 0 Feb 5 00:46 /dev/fd0 The devices can be mounted via cli as shown above. The automounter doesn't seem to be working as the cdrom is not spun up when a cd is placed into it. When I try to use the icon, right clicking and selecting mount, I get the message "could not mount device - the reported error was: mount: can't find /media/floppy(cdrecorder) in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab." Contents of /etc/fstab: LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 LABEL=/downloads /downloads ext3 defaults 1 2 LABEL=/home1 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 LABEL=/source /source ext3 defaults 1 2 sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 LABEL=/temp1 /temp1 ext3 defaults 1 2 LABEL=/temp2 /temp2 ext3 defaults 1 2 LABEL=/usr /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 LABEL=/var /var ext3 defaults 1 2 LABEL=SWAP-hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0 Contents of /etc/mtab: /dev/hda6 / ext3 rw 0 0 proc /proc proc rw 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/hda1 /boot ext3 rw 0 0 tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /downloads ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/hda5 /home ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/hda3 /source ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/hdb2 /temp1 ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/hdb3 /temp2 ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/hda2 /usr ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/hdb6 /var ext3 rw 0 0 none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0 sunrpc /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs rpc_pipefs rw 0 0 automount(pid1982) /net autofs rw,fd=4,pgrp=1982,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0 As you can see, no entry for either device has been created in either file. What I want to do is create those entries and the links for them. Is that the correct approach, or is there a better way. I suspect something is may be unusual about my hardware or it should have been created. Gigabyte GA-7DPXDW+ m/b with two AMD cpus 1GB RAM ATI RV280 (radeon 9200) Plextor PX-708 CD/DVD recorder Iomega ZIP 750 ATAPI (which also doesn't show up) WDC WD1200JB (x2) hard drives Ethernet Pro 100 Adaptec 160 scsi card Seagate AIT tape drive (not showing) Thanks, Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA From katzj at redhat.com Mon Feb 6 22:30:36 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:30:36 -0500 Subject: anaconda dies when selecting optional packages In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0602061413g1b6928f4s17e5396fd90b9118@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0602061413g1b6928f4s17e5396fd90b9118@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1139265037.13559.79.camel@bree.local.net> On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 23:13 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Refering to this bug > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=180027 > which is actually anaconda related rather than Kadischi's, > is there any update for it yet ? Well, since it was filed against kadischi instead of anaconda, it didn't magically appear in my bug spam for the day. But, I fixed it earlier after hitting it myself, so should be better in rawhide tomorrow Jeremy From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 6 22:38:30 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 23:38:30 +0100 Subject: anaconda dies when selecting optional packages In-Reply-To: <1139265037.13559.79.camel@bree.local.net> References: <13dbfe4f0602061413g1b6928f4s17e5396fd90b9118@mail.gmail.com> <1139265037.13559.79.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0602061438x4d478f03kfe3b99d108a74308@mail.gmail.com> > Well, since it was filed against kadischi instead of anaconda, it didn't > magically appear in my bug spam for the day. > > But, I fixed it earlier after hitting it myself, so should be better in > rawhide tomorrow > > Jeremy Thanks. :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Mon Feb 6 22:53:29 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:53:29 -0500 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <200602061034.59946.sgrubb@redhat.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <200602060618.44644.sgrubb@redhat.com> <43E73DD2.1070201@insight.rr.com> <200602061034.59946.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E7D369.6080607@insight.rr.com> Steve Grubb wrote: > On Monday 06 February 2006 07:15, Jim Cornette wrote: >> I tried out your latest script with the -vw option and it matched >> anything with kernel within it. > > Sorry, all my machines' rpm databases are screwed up in some way and never got > it to run without complaining. New version below should be fine. No problem! My rpm database is in pretty good shape, though I had to intervene a few time by rpm -qa and going through the whole listing of packages that I have installed. The new version worked as intended. I checked that the packages like kernel-devel are not matched by kernel. I assume that kernel-smp and its devel patch would exact match also. > >> For test 2, what are you searching for? > > When you type "yum update rpm" on an x86_64 machine for example, it does not > pull in neon for i386, it only grabs the x86_64 package. So, I have > neon-0.24.7-10.1.i386 and neon-0.25.5-1.x86_64 on my system. This is not the > way I want my system to be. Both versions should match. Thanks for the explanation. I am on i386 and did not know what you were trying to catch. > > -Steve > Jim PS - Thanks for the \ to continue lines. There were no problems cutting and pasting the script into an editor and changing permissions. From orion at cora.nwra.com Mon Feb 6 23:08:40 2006 From: orion at cora.nwra.com (Orion Poplawski) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:08:40 -0700 Subject: Firefox/Thunderbird memory usage Message-ID: <43E7D6F8.90306@cora.nwra.com> Since starting to run FC5Tx/Rawhide, it seems like Firefox and Thunderbird consume a lot more memory than they did on FC4. I'm just starting to collect numbers so don't have much evidence yet, but was wondering if others felt the same. Memory at startup (Virt/Res): firefox - 113m/31m thunderbird - 159m/51m When I last closed them out of frustration (in competition with another process, so the Res numbers are probably lower than the real working set): firefox - 370m/154m thunderbird = 419m/81m I do have a lot of email and look at large newsgroups (linux-kernel from gmane), but I don't remember having this experience on FC4. -- Orion Poplawski System Administrator 303-415-9701 x222 Colorado Research Associates/NWRA FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane, Boulder CO 80301 http://www.co-ra.com From patrick at wudika.de Tue Feb 7 05:26:18 2006 From: patrick at wudika.de (Patrick von der Hagen) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:26:18 -0500 Subject: strange problem with self-compiled software on FC 5 T2... In-Reply-To: <43E7C84C.3090700@BitWagon.com> References: <43E81134.6010703@wudika.de> <43E7C84C.3090700@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <43E82F7A.9060204@wudika.de> John Reiser wrote: >> Using gcc-3.5 on Debian-Sarge runs as expected, but on T2 and Rawhide j >> is set to 0 after fscanf!!! > > Run under gdb, put a breakpoint on fscanf, upon arrival put a watchpoint on j: > (gdb) print &j > (gdb) watch *(int *)0x.... > (gdb) continue > >> double x, y, z, korr, SekundeSat; >> long j, JahrSat; > > It's conceivable that this is some fallout from the [impending ?] change > to long double. Note that 'j' is declared just after some 'double' locals, > and "%lf" appears in the fscanf. Changing those lines like this "double x, y, z, korr, SekundeSat; char d; long j, JahrSat;" works on my system. "d" is just some unused placeholder to put something between double and long. Here is my gdb-output, though I doubt I did it right. And I certainly don't understand a single bit... fscanf-rv: 6 (gdb) print &j $1 = (long int *) 0xbfc34df0 (gdb) watch *(int *)0xbfc34df0 Hardware watchpoint 4: *(int *) 3217247728 (gdb) step j nach fscanf: 0 (gdb) step (gdb) step (gdb) step (gdb) step (gdb) step (gdb) step Hardware watchpoint 4: *(int *) 3217247728 Old value = 0 New value = 1 0x080510d5 in leseDatenIGS (input=0x9c20170, daten=0x9c202e8) at lese.cpp:206 /home/patrick/jamila/lese.cpp:206:5112:beg:0x80510d5 (gdb) step (gdb) step (gdb) step (gdb) step (gdb) step j vor fscanf: 1 (gdb) step Hardware watchpoint 4: *(int *) 3217247728 Old value = 1 New value = 0 0x0040c24f in _IO_vfscanf_internal () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) step Single stepping until exit from function _IO_vfscanf_internal, which has no line number information. 0x0040f34a in vfscanf () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) step Single stepping until exit from function vfscanf, which has no line number information. 0x0041414a in fscanf () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) step Single stepping until exit from function fscanf, which has no line number information. leseDatenIGS (input=0x9c20170, daten=0x9c202e8) at lese.cpp:232 /home/patrick/jamila/lese.cpp:232:5804:beg:0x8050fe0 (gdb) step fscanf-rv: 6 (gdb) step j nach fscanf: 0 (gdb) Now, whom should I contact? glibc, gnu-c or gnu-c++? -- CU, Patrick. From selinux at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 23:43:27 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 15:43:27 -0800 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602061116nb197e02xe71eca9b4cd4c352@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> <4c4ba1530602061105o1d732111n7138f444cccbc6a6@mail.gmail.com> <20060206191109.GA2747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4c4ba1530602061116nb197e02xe71eca9b4cd4c352@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602061543n651431a7s9c8042ac05295e68@mail.gmail.com> With some help from Petr from vmware, here is the 'solution': mount -t usbfs /sys/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb The above restores usb function to vmware. tom From bikehead at amberpoint.com Mon Feb 6 23:44:56 2006 From: bikehead at amberpoint.com (Brian Anderson) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 15:44:56 -0800 Subject: Wireless In-Reply-To: <43E7C536.7060506@amberpoint.com> References: <43E7AED0.1060203@amberpoint.com> <43E7C536.7060506@amberpoint.com> Message-ID: <43E7DF78.2020304@amberpoint.com> Sorry, I realize I'm not being clear. My earlier mail pointed to a "message handler" but that seems harmless in that it occurs with both versions of NM. The "dev != NULL" message seem relevant since they only occur with the 0.5.1-10 version of NM. Brian Anderson wrote: > Well, I've been doing a bit more investigation of this. I am using > the madwifi-ng driver (svn revision 1443) which was working fine with > NetworkManager-0.5.1-8.cvs20060131, but stops working with > NetworkManager-0.5.1-10.cvs20060205. I reverted to the previous > version and NM connects. > > The message handler error I mentioned below appears for both versions, > so it seems to be harmless. The messages that appear for the new > version and not in the old are: > > NetworkManager: nm_device_is_802_3_ethernet: assertion 'dev != NULL' > failed > NetworkManager: nm_device_is_802_11_wireless: assertion 'dev != NULL' > failed > > any ideas? > > Brian Anderson wrote: > >> Before today's rawhide NM was working OK for me, but after today >> (2/6) I too see behavior where the IP address isn't being picked up. >> NM shows all the APs in my area and attempts to connect, but fails. >> The notable message I get is: >> dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under >> /com/redhat/dhcp/ath0 for sub-path ath0.dbus.get.reason >> >> it appears regardless of whether enforcement is on or not (just in >> case there was a suspicion it was selinux related). >> NM doesn't seem to have a problem with eth0 though. >> >> >> >> Don Springall wrote: >> >>> After today's rawhide update dhclient is started at boot time and >>> does not pick up an ip address. So instead of doing an /sbin/ifup >>> eth1 I have to do a /sbin/ifdown eth1 first before bringing up the >>> wireless card. >>> >>> I have never been able to get the system to start the interface >>> correctly I think because it tries to determine an IP address before >>> network-manager is up and running. >>> >>> Anyone have any insights on what I should change ? My ifcfg-eth1 is >>> below. >>> >>> # Please read /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt >>> # for the documentation of these parameters. >>> ONBOOT=no >>> USERCTL=yes >>> IPV6INIT=no >>> PEERDNS=yes >>> TYPE=Wireless >>> DEVICE=eth1 >>> HWADDR=00:13:10:6a:ea:b7 >>> BOOTPROTO=dhcp >>> NETMASK= >>> DHCP_HOSTNAME= >>> IPADDR= >>> DOMAIN= >>> ESSID=WirelessCity >>> CHANNEL=1 >>> MODE=Managed >>> RATE=Auto >>> >>> [root at localhost network-scripts]# /sbin/ip addr >>> 1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue >>> link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 >>> inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo >>> inet6 ::1/128 scope host >>> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >>> 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc >>> pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:02:3f:8a:a5:1f brd >>> ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff >>> 3: sit0: mtu 1480 qdisc noop >>> link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 >>> 4: eth1: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 >>> link/ether 00:13:10:6a:ea:b7 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff >>> inet 172.17.186.240/16 brd 172.17.255.255 scope global eth1 >>> inet6 fe80::213:10ff:fe6a:eab7/64 scope link >>> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >>> [root at localhost network-scripts]# >>> >>> >> > -- . __o Brian "la lumaca" _`\<,_ (*)/ (*) From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Mon Feb 6 23:57:54 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:57:54 -0500 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> Message-ID: <43E7E282.80708@insight.rr.com> Johannes Erdfelt wrote: > On Mon, Feb 06, 2006, Tom London wrote: >> Running latest rawhide. >> >> On my system, it appears that USB topology/devices are now being >> populated in /sys/bus/usb/ instead of /proc/bus/usb. >> >> Did this recently change (or did I just miss this ....)? > > I haven't checked rawhide recently, but you should be seeing the device > nodes in /dev/bus/usb (via udev) now instead of /proc/bus/usb (via > usbdevfs). > > JE > There were two problems recently fixed which needed /dev/bus/usb changes vs. the older /proc/bus/usb location. Sane for scanners like HP flatbed scanners and a fix for gnomad2. I did not check the scanner yet, but gnomad2 works great with the changes. /dev/bus/usb is the new location as stated by Johannes. Jim -- History is on our side (as long as we can control the historians). From selinux at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 00:12:50 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 16:12:50 -0800 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <43E7E282.80708@insight.rr.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> <43E7E282.80708@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602061612sfaad14et12f9a347a6a8141f@mail.gmail.com> Thanks. Appears that mounting either /sys/bus/usb or /dev/bus/usb on /proc/bus/usb as type usbfs works. I'll adapt my use the (newer) /dev/bus/usb. tom From selinux at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 00:55:07 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 16:55:07 -0800 Subject: firefox: lots of calls to gettimeofday() In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602061353ia3947d5k9d28c442fe371a22@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061353ia3947d5k9d28c442fe371a22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602061655q6a126818k4c394c65b2c2a36@mail.gmail.com> I checked upstream. This is apperently noticed on laptops and systems that suspend, etc. Here is the bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290963 tom From notting at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 01:26:51 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 20:26:51 -0500 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602061543n651431a7s9c8042ac05295e68@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> <4c4ba1530602061105o1d732111n7138f444cccbc6a6@mail.gmail.com> <20060206191109.GA2747@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <4c4ba1530602061116nb197e02xe71eca9b4cd4c352@mail.gmail.com> <4c4ba1530602061543n651431a7s9c8042ac05295e68@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060207012650.GB30764@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Tom London (selinux at gmail.com) said: > With some help from Petr from vmware, here is the 'solution': > > mount -t usbfs /sys/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb The /sys/bus/usb you mention there is irrelevant, it could be 'bob' or 'none' or... So, vmware requires the old interface. Hm, we should put it back, then. Bill From berryja at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 01:35:11 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 19:35:11 -0600 Subject: strange problem with self-compiled software on FC 5 T2... In-Reply-To: <43E82F7A.9060204@wudika.de> References: <43E81134.6010703@wudika.de> <43E7C84C.3090700@BitWagon.com> <43E82F7A.9060204@wudika.de> Message-ID: <8767947e0602061735h2ad69b49x1ec6f24b4e5e29a8@mail.gmail.com> On 2/6/06, Patrick von der Hagen wrote: > John Reiser wrote: > >> Using gcc-3.5 on Debian-Sarge runs as expected, but on T2 and Rawhide j > >> is set to 0 after fscanf!!! > > > > Run under gdb, put a breakpoint on fscanf, upon arrival put a watchpoint on j: > > (gdb) print &j > > (gdb) watch *(int *)0x.... > > (gdb) continue > > > >> double x, y, z, korr, SekundeSat; > >> long j, JahrSat; > > > > It's conceivable that this is some fallout from the [impending ?] change > > to long double. Note that 'j' is declared just after some 'double' locals, > > and "%lf" appears in the fscanf. I think that is the issue here, too. > Changing those lines like this > "double x, y, z, korr, SekundeSat; > char d; > long j, JahrSat;" > works on my system. "d" is just some unused placeholder to put something > between double and long. [snip] > Now, whom should I contact? glibc, gnu-c or gnu-c++? None. The issue is in the code. Change all %lf in the scanf to %f. Or better yet, use std::cin and the extraction operator since you are using std::cout. Or perhaps those are just your additions for debugging... Either way, scanf is not a very good (read: safe) method for getting input. One of the changes in the new gcc ABI is to treat long doubles as 128 bits wide (as I understand from my little bit of reading about it). This is why it works on other systems but breaks on FC5T2 system; the others have the old compiler. %lf refers to a long double and will stomp on the 128 bits of memory after the address being used in the scanf. Adding the extra variable moves things around to where the double and long are not adjacent (apparently gcc pads the char to 32 bits...). I've seen similar things on a 64-bit system using %ld with a long, which was 64 bits wide rather than 32. Lots of fun. Jonathan From jreiser at BitWagon.com Tue Feb 7 01:36:08 2006 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:36:08 -0800 Subject: strange problem with self-compiled software on FC 5 T2... In-Reply-To: <43E82F7A.9060204@wudika.de> References: <43E81134.6010703@wudika.de> <43E7C84C.3090700@BitWagon.com> <43E82F7A.9060204@wudika.de> Message-ID: <43E7F988.10003@BitWagon.com> > fscanf-rv: 6 > (gdb) print &j > $1 = (long int *) 0xbfc34df0 > (gdb) watch *(int *)0xbfc34df0 > Hardware watchpoint 4: *(int *) 3217247728 > (gdb) step > j nach fscanf: 0 > (gdb) step > (gdb) step > (gdb) step > (gdb) step > (gdb) step > (gdb) step > Hardware watchpoint 4: *(int *) 3217247728 > > Old value = 0 > New value = 1 > 0x080510d5 in leseDatenIGS (input=0x9c20170, daten=0x9c202e8) at > lese.cpp:206 That [above] is the expected increment of j in your code. > /home/patrick/jamila/lese.cpp:206:5112:beg:0x80510d5 > (gdb) step > (gdb) step > (gdb) step > (gdb) step > (gdb) step > j vor fscanf: 1 > (gdb) step > Hardware watchpoint 4: *(int *) 3217247728 > > Old value = 1 > New value = 0 > 0x0040c24f in _IO_vfscanf_internal () from /lib/libc.so.6 That is the unexpected change of j by _IO_vfscanf_internal. Your code was: rv = fscanf(input, "%s %d %lf %lf %lf %lf", &c, &SatNr, &x, &y, &z, &korr); The manual page for scanf(3) says: l Indicates either that the conversion will be one of diouxX or n and the next pointer is a pointer to a long int or unsigned long int (rather than int), or that the conversion will be one of efg and the next pointer is a pointer to double (rather than float). Specifying two l characters is equivalent to L. If used with %c or %s the corresponding parameter is considered as a pointer to a wide character or wide character string respectively. L Indicates that the conversion will be either efg and the next pointer is a pointer to long double or the conversion will be dioux and the next pointer is a pointer to long long. So it looks like _IO_vfscanf_internal is interpreting your "%lf" as "%Lf", which is a bug. File a bug report with bugzilla about glibc. -- From cmadams at hiwaay.net Tue Feb 7 01:51:21 2006 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 19:51:21 -0600 Subject: Where does anaconda.repo come from? Message-ID: <20060207015120.GD742422@hiwaay.net> What creates /etc/yum.repos.d/anaconda.repo? I did a rawhide (2006-02-06) install and got that file causes yum and pirut to fail on startup. However, nothing claims to own it according to rpm -qf. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From berryja at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 01:52:44 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 19:52:44 -0600 Subject: strange problem with self-compiled software on FC 5 T2... In-Reply-To: <43E7F988.10003@BitWagon.com> References: <43E81134.6010703@wudika.de> <43E7C84C.3090700@BitWagon.com> <43E82F7A.9060204@wudika.de> <43E7F988.10003@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602061752j22849d87h68a27f5a10491088@mail.gmail.com> On 2/6/06, John Reiser wrote: > Your code was: > rv = fscanf(input, "%s %d %lf %lf %lf %lf", &c, &SatNr, > &x, &y, &z, &korr); > > The manual page for scanf(3) says: > l Indicates either that the conversion will be one of diouxX or n > and the next pointer is a pointer to a long int or unsigned long > int (rather than int), or that the conversion will be one of efg > and the next pointer is a pointer to double (rather than float). > Specifying two l characters is equivalent to L. If used with %c > or %s the corresponding parameter is considered as a pointer to > a wide character or wide character string respectively. > > L Indicates that the conversion will be either efg and the next > pointer is a pointer to long double or the conversion will be > dioux and the next pointer is a pointer to long long. > > So it looks like _IO_vfscanf_internal is interpreting your "%lf" as "%Lf", > which is a bug. File a bug report with bugzilla about glibc. Upon further thinking, I'm inclined to agree with this. I checked the man pages in FC4 and assumed something changed here with the ABI change. I should have checked the FC5T2 man page.... From my experience with %ld and %d on 32-bit and 64-bit things can be very confusing since int and long int are the same size on 32-bit x86. It would still be interesting to see the difference between %lf and %f. And also %Lf or %llf (which should be equivalent). Jonathan From katzj at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 02:27:14 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:27:14 -0500 Subject: Where does anaconda.repo come from? In-Reply-To: <20060207015120.GD742422@hiwaay.net> References: <20060207015120.GD742422@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1139279234.3100.1.camel@bree.local.net> On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 19:51 -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > What creates /etc/yum.repos.d/anaconda.repo? I did a rawhide > (2006-02-06) install and got that file causes yum and pirut to fail on > startup. However, nothing claims to own it according to rpm -qf. It's being created by anaconda, although it's not quite right yet (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=180014) Jeremy From amellan at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 02:38:10 2006 From: amellan at gmail.com (Alain Mellan) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:38:10 -0800 Subject: rawhide report: 20060202 changes In-Reply-To: <1139262403.24225.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200602021553.k12FrHK7003484@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139262403.24225.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <95ac75570602061838j1038ffa1nc7e730f0a39dd394@mail.gmail.com> I get the same error w/ Beagle. BTW, upgrading to sqlite 3.3.3-1 still send yum in infinite loop. Had to downgrade to 3.3.2. -- alain. From pjones at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 02:45:28 2006 From: pjones at redhat.com (Peter Jones) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:45:28 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060202 changes In-Reply-To: <95ac75570602061838j1038ffa1nc7e730f0a39dd394@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602021553.k12FrHK7003484@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139262403.24225.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <95ac75570602061838j1038ffa1nc7e730f0a39dd394@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1139280329.1654.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 18:38 -0800, Alain Mellan wrote: > I get the same error w/ Beagle. > > BTW, upgrading to sqlite 3.3.3-1 still send yum in infinite loop. Had > to downgrade to 3.3.2. You need to update python-sqlite . -- Peter From michal at harddata.com Tue Feb 7 02:52:39 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 19:52:39 -0700 Subject: rawhide report: 20060202 changes In-Reply-To: <1139280329.1654.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200602021553.k12FrHK7003484@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139262403.24225.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <95ac75570602061838j1038ffa1nc7e730f0a39dd394@mail.gmail.com> <1139280329.1654.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20060207025239.GA10779@mail.harddata.com> On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 09:45:28PM -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 18:38 -0800, Alain Mellan wrote: > > I get the same error w/ Beagle. > > > > BTW, upgrading to sqlite 3.3.3-1 still send yum in infinite loop. Had > > to downgrade to 3.3.2. > > You need to update python-sqlite . Update to what? I have python-sqlite-1.1.6-3 installed and this is the latest one. sqlite-3.3.3-1 got yum eventually killed with oom on x86_64. Putting back 3.3.2 makes things workable again. Michal From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Tue Feb 7 03:20:04 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:20:04 -0500 Subject: Where does anaconda.repo come from? In-Reply-To: <1139279234.3100.1.camel@bree.local.net> References: <20060207015120.GD742422@hiwaay.net> <1139279234.3100.1.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43E811E4.3020002@insight.rr.com> Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 19:51 -0600, Chris Adams wrote: >> What creates /etc/yum.repos.d/anaconda.repo? I did a rawhide >> (2006-02-06) install and got that file causes yum and pirut to fail on >> startup. However, nothing claims to own it according to rpm -qf. > > It's being created by anaconda, although it's not quite right yet (see > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=180014) > > Jeremy > All the link showed me was the below. Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, bugzilla at redhat.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat) Server at bugzilla.redhat.com Port 443 -- An rpm database is a terrible thing to waste. From amellan at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 03:47:03 2006 From: amellan at gmail.com (Alain Mellan) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 19:47:03 -0800 Subject: rawhide report: 20060202 changes In-Reply-To: <1139280329.1654.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200602021553.k12FrHK7003484@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139262403.24225.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <95ac75570602061838j1038ffa1nc7e730f0a39dd394@mail.gmail.com> <1139280329.1654.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <95ac75570602061947i21b08cf2g1a01d94518f8e2d9@mail.gmail.com> Great. Updating python-sqlite and sqlite to the latest is working for me (yumex). Still some troubles with beagle and f-spot. -- alain. On 2/6/06, Peter Jones wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 18:38 -0800, Alain Mellan wrote: > > I get the same error w/ Beagle. > > > > BTW, upgrading to sqlite 3.3.3-1 still send yum in infinite loop. Had > > to downgrade to 3.3.2. > > You need to update python-sqlite . > > -- > Peter > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From drepper at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 04:16:21 2006 From: drepper at redhat.com (Ulrich Drepper) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:16:21 -0800 Subject: strange problem with self-compiled software on FC 5 T2... In-Reply-To: <43E82F7A.9060204@wudika.de> References: <43E81134.6010703@wudika.de> <43E7C84C.3090700@BitWagon.com> <43E82F7A.9060204@wudika.de> Message-ID: <43E81F15.5060106@redhat.com> Patrick von der Hagen wrote: > Now, whom should I contact? glibc, gnu-c or gnu-c++? Nobody but the person who wrote that code. You pass a pointer to a 'char' variable for the %s format element. Even *if* you only read one character the terminating NUL byte will overwrite the next byte. That's likely your variable 'j'. -- ? Ulrich Drepper ? Red Hat, Inc. ? 444 Castro St ? Mountain View, CA ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 251 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dfordham at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 04:52:10 2006 From: dfordham at gmail.com (Doug Fordham) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 23:52:10 -0500 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602061105o1d732111n7138f444cccbc6a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> <4c4ba1530602061105o1d732111n7138f444cccbc6a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E8277A.6060405@gmail.com> Tom, I am running VMWare WS Version 5.5.1 build 19175 When I insert the usb media, I get an audible sound, an icon is placed on the desktop, and a folder is opened with flashing notification in the Gnome taskbar at the bottom of the workspace. ( Not sure if this has any relevance but, when I initially startup VMware, the usb hub is found by Vmware and annotated as present.) The reason I write this, is I am not sure I am tracking on the essence of the problem -- probably just me as I am not the sharpest tool in the shed ;o) Anyway, I have provided some directory listings below from my system; is the consistent/inconsistent with your observations? Thanks, Doug ************************************************************************ Without LEXAR Media inserted: [root at localhost doug]# ls /dev/bus/usb/ 001 [root at localhost doug]# ls /dev/bus/usb/001/ 001 [root at localhost doug]# ls /sys/bus/usb/ devices drivers [root at localhost doug]# ls /sys/bus/usb/devices/ 1-0:1.0 usb1 [root at localhost doug]# ls /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/ 1-0:1.0 bMaxPacketSize0 driver product bcdDevice bMaxPower ep_00 serial bConfigurationValue bNumConfigurations idProduct speed bDeviceClass bNumInterfaces idVendor uevent bDeviceProtocol bus manufacturer usb_device:usbdev1.1 bDeviceSubClass configuration maxchild version bmAttributes devnum power [root at localhost doug]# ls /proc/bus/usb/ (note: nothing present here) [root at localhost doug]# With LEXAR Media inserted: [root at localhost doug]# ls /dev/bus/usb/ 001 [root at localhost doug]# ls /dev/bus/usb/001/ 001 003 [root at localhost doug]# ls /sys/bus/usb/ devices drivers [root at localhost doug]# ls /sys/bus/usb/devices/ 1-0:1.0 1-1 1-1:1.0 usb1 [root at localhost doug]# ls /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/ 1-0:1.0 bmAttributes devnum power 1-1 bMaxPacketSize0 driver product bcdDevice bMaxPower ep_00 serial bConfigurationValue bNumConfigurations idProduct speed bDeviceClass bNumInterfaces idVendor uevent bDeviceProtocol bus manufacturer usb_device:usbdev1.1 bDeviceSubClass configuration maxchild version [root at localhost doug]# ls /proc/bus/usb/ (note: nothing here as above) [root at localhost doug]# Tom London wrote: > Sigh. vmware can no longer scan for USB devices. > > I've tried passing in the 'new location' (i.e. /sys/bus/usb), etc., > but that crashes vmware. > > vmware appears not to like /dev/bus/usb (it is looking for a 'devices' > directory). > > Posted this in the vmware support board...... > > From jreiser at BitWagon.com Tue Feb 7 05:26:28 2006 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:26:28 -0800 Subject: strange problem with self-compiled software on FC 5 T2... In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602061752j22849d87h68a27f5a10491088@mail.gmail.com> References: <43E81134.6010703@wudika.de> <43E7C84C.3090700@BitWagon.com> <43E82F7A.9060204@wudika.de> <43E7F988.10003@BitWagon.com> <8767947e0602061752j22849d87h68a27f5a10491088@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E82F84.7000808@BitWagon.com> >> rv = fscanf(input, "%s %d %lf %lf %lf %lf", &c, &SatNr, >> &x, &y, &z, &korr); >> Elsewhere in this topic, Ulrich Drepper notes that the format conversion "%s" does not match the argument &c, and therefore the source has a bug. Gcc will catch analogous mismatches in source calls to *printf(), so this case is another instance that would benefit from an enhancement to gcc to perform similar checking for *scanf(). -- From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Feb 7 06:36:06 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:36:06 -0500 Subject: anaconda: us keyboard map messed up? Message-ID: <20060207063606.GA10065@wolves.durham.nc.us> I went to do a test install of today's rawhide (2006-02-06) and everything went fine until I had to type in the name and numbers for the NFS location of my local mirror. The number keys and the / symbol keys were quite thoroughly messed up, putting in control and above-ascii chars in the entry fields. This was using the boot.iso, and the keyboard is a PC Concepts clone of the M$ "Natural" ergonomic split keyboard (PS/2 connection to MoBo). Does anyone else see this problem? -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rhally at mindspring.com Tue Feb 7 06:46:26 2006 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:46:26 -0500 Subject: anaconda: us keyboard map messed up? In-Reply-To: <20060207063606.GA10065@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20060207063606.GA10065@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <43E84242.2090709@mindspring.com> G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > I went to do a test install of today's rawhide (2006-02-06) and > everything went fine until I had to type in the name and numbers for the > NFS location of my local mirror. The number keys and the / symbol keys > were quite thoroughly messed up, putting in control and above-ascii > chars in the entry fields. > > This was using the boot.iso, and the keyboard is a PC Concepts clone of > the M$ "Natural" ergonomic split keyboard (PS/2 connection to MoBo). > > Does anyone else see this problem? > > This is from an earlier thread ("trying to install rawhide"): On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 02:43 +0100, Erwin Rol wrote: > > I have been trying to install the current rawhide on a older machine, to > > test if it works (my current rawhide machine is just an yum updated > > FC4). > > > > But I don't get very far, It boots OK, than i get the language and > > keyboard selection. I select US keyboard and than my A and Q and my W > > and Y keys are switched, and probably a lot of other keys too. Yeah, somehow the us layout became azerty instead... there's nothing in the logs to really help in figuring out why. The x86_64 tree is fine. So, we're going to see if it goes away tomorrow (in which case, it could just be something weird on a specific build machine) > > Ignoring the weird keyboard i select http install, and than get the > > Message "Running anaconda, The Fedora System Installer - please wait" > > and pretty much directly after that "install exited abnormally" and > > there my install adventure is over. Hmm, can you switch to tty3 and see what the last thing printed there? > > It anybody actually using/testing the install system, or is it just > > there for show until the next test release is here ? We're testing and fixing things as fast as we can -- unfortunately, we're not perfect yet :-) Jeremy -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list From buildsys at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 08:34:16 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 03:34:16 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060207 changes Message-ID: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> New package gnome-python2-desktop The sources for additional PyGNOME Python extension modules for the GNOME desktop. Updated Packages: ORBit2-2.13.3-1 --------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.13.3-1 - Update to 2.13.3 OpenIPMI-1.4.14-18 ------------------ * Mon Feb 06 2006 Phil Knirsch 1.4.14-18 - Updated ipmitool to latest upstream version. - Removed 3 patches for already fixed bugs in latest ipmitool. - Adapted warning message fix for ipmitool for latest version. anaconda-10.91.16-1 ------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.91.16-1 - fix writing out instdata for root password, etc (#180310) * Mon Feb 06 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.91.15-1 - Remove debugging code that broke showing the Xen option on the task screen - More sqlite files (#171232) - Fix traceback for new method pirut depends on - Ensure /dev/root exists (Patrick Mansfield) - Force buttonbar on main screen active in congrats (dcantrel, #179924) - Always pass loglevel (dcantrel) - BR libXt-devel (dcantrel) - Don't try to make /dev/mapper devs (pjones) - More consistency in dev naming for dmraid (pjones) - Start of iscsi patches (Patrick Mansfield) - Fix pre-existing RAID chunksize reading (#178291) autoconf-2.59-6 --------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Karsten Hopp 2.59-6 - check for Xlib.h instead of Intrinsic.h to find X11 headers (#176379) bind-30:9.3.2-2.1 ----------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 30:9.3.2-2.1 - Rebuild for new gcc, glibc, glibc-kernheaders * Mon Jan 16 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 30:9.3.2-2 - fix bug 177854: temporary fix for broken kernel-2.6.15-1854+ /proc/net/if_inet6 format * Wed Dec 21 2005 Jason Vas Dias - 30:9.3.2-1 - Upgrade to 9.3.2, released today booty-0.66-1 ------------ * Mon Feb 06 2006 Peter Jones - 0.66-1 - use "mapper/raidnamep0" for partition names instead of "mapper/raidname0" control-center-1:2.13.90-6 -------------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1:2.13.90-6 - Avoid delays when switching backgrounds * Mon Feb 06 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1:2.13.90-3 - Use the 2.12 background capplet dhcp-11:3.0.3-21.1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 06 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 11:3.0.3-21.1 - Rebuild for new gcc, glibc and glibc-kernheaders eclipse-1:3.1.2-1jpp_4fc ------------------------ * Mon Feb 06 2006 Andrew Overholt 3.1.2-1jpp_4fc - Add an swt-gtk.jar and fix symlink to point to correct jar (rh#180000). - Link against generic libjawt.so (rh#158755). - Re-add patch to use built launcher. firstboot-1.4.3-1 ----------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Chris Lumens 1.4.3-1 - Tweak firstboot-tui requires to not require X (#180046). - Wrap left side labels if they're too long. - Remove "Click to Finish" module (#178109). - Try to prevent running in runlevel 3 if we failed in runlevel 5 (#145169). frysk-0.0.1.2006.01.22-0.FC5.1 ------------------------------ * Mon Feb 06 2006 Adam Jocksch 0.0.1.2006.01.22-0.FC5.1 - Bumped version, rebuilt. gcc-4.1.0-0.23 -------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.23 - update from gcc-4_1-branch (-r110582:110632) - PRs classpath/24618, classpath/25141, classpath/25727, fortran/25046, fortran/26039 - use LOGICAL*1 instead of LOGICAL*4 for Fortran where temporary masks (Roger Sayle) - fix symbol versions in s390 libgcc_s.so.1 - sparc32 and alpha long double fixes - BuildRequires libXt-devel - BuildRequires and Requires glibc-devel >= 2.3.90-35 on arches that are switching long double * Sat Feb 04 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.22 - fix ia64 debug info patch - fix libjava pthread_create wrapper patch * Sat Feb 04 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.21 - update from gcc-4_1-branch (-r110433:110582) - PRs c++/25342, c++/25979, fortran/20845, fortran/24266, fortran/24958, fortran/25072, libstdc++/21554, middle-end/24901, middle-end/25977, middle-end/26001, target/25864, target/25926, target/25960 - put ia64 read-only sections that require runtime relocations even in -fno-pic code into .data.rel.ro etc. sections rather than .rodata to avoid DT_TEXTREL binaries (Richard Henderson, PR target/26090) - merge gomp changes from trunk (-r110511:110512 and -r110549:110552) - fix ia64 debug info coverage of epilogues (Alexandre Oliva, PR debug/24444) - export pthread_create from libgcj.so.7 as a wrapper around libpthread.so.0's pthread_create that handles GC (Anthony Green, Tom Tromey) - BC-ABI java lookup fix (Andrew Haley, #179070, #178156) - on sparc64 emit .register %g7,#ignore instead of .register %g7,#scratch to avoid problems with TLS or -fstack-protector - switch to IBM extended format long double by default on ppc and ppc64 - switch to IEEE 754 quad format long double by default on s390, s390x, sparc32 and alpha gedit-1:2.13.90-3 ----------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 John (J5) Palmieri - 1:2.13.90-3 - Add dependancy on gnome-python2-desktop * Mon Feb 06 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1:2.13.90-2 - Enable python again - Fix multiarch problem glibc-kernheaders-3.0-5 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 David Woodhouse 3.0-5 - Add EOWNERDEAD and ENOTRECOVERABLE error codes gnome-icon-theme-2.13.7-1 ------------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.13.7-1 - Update to 2.13.7 gnome-menus-2.13.5-5 -------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Ray Strode 2.13.5-5 - break infinite loop gnome-python2-2.12.3-1 ---------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 John (J5) Palmieri - 2.12.3-1 - Update to 2.12.3 * Tue Dec 20 2005 Jesse Keating - 2.12.1-1.2 - rebuilt for new libgtop * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating - 2.12.1-1.1 - rebuilt gnome-python2-extras-2.13.3-3 ----------------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 John (J5) Palmieri - 2.13.3-3 - Upload correct tar ball and try again * Mon Feb 06 2006 John (J5) Palmieri - 2.13.3-2 - Bump and rebuild (force-tag fails for this module) * Mon Feb 06 2006 John (J5) Palmieri - 2.13.3-1 - Update to 2.13.3 - Move the gnome-python2-applet gnome-python2-gnomeprint gnome-python2-gtksourceview gnome-python2-libwnck gnome-python2-libgtop2 gnome-python2-nautilus-cd-burner gnome-python2-metacity and gnome-python2-totem subpackages to gnome-python2-desktop because gnome-python-extras was split upstream gnome-utils-1:2.13.91-2 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.13.91-2 - Fix a gnome-system-log crash gtk2-2.8.11-5 ------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.8.11-5 - Sync render fix with upstream guile-5:1.6.7-5 --------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Miroslav Lichvar 5:1.6.7-5 - Avoid marking qthreads library as requiring executable stack (#179274) hwbrowser-0.25-1 ---------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Nils Philippsen 0.25 - build and distribute Slovakian translation (#180089) * Thu Dec 22 2005 Nils Philippsen - add sr at Latn translation, distribute Serbian translations (#176134) * Tue Nov 22 2005 Matthias Clasen 0.24 - Remove "Browser" from name, classify as monitor for better menus icon-naming-utils-0.6.7-1 ------------------------- initscripts-8.26-1 ------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Bill Nottingham 8.26-1 - revert "rc.sysinit: don't mount usbfs, libusb no longer uses it" change - add some ugly hacks to make sure net hotplug doesn't run after unclean shutdown (#177795) - don't mount /sys and /proc in rc.sysinit - the initrd already does () - halt: try to unmount tmpfs filesystems before swapoff (#174000, ) intltool-0.34.2-1 ----------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Matthias Clasen 0.34.2-1 - Update to 0.34.2 iputils-20020927-34 ------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Radek Vok??l 20020927-34 - ping clean-up, added new ICMP warning messages * Wed Jan 25 2006 Radek Vok??l 20020927-33 - gcc patch, warnings cleaned-up * Tue Dec 13 2005 Radek Vokal 20020927-32 - fix HOPLIMIT option for setsockopt() (#175471) java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_76rh ------------------------------------------ * Mon Feb 06 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_76rh - Test src.zip before extracting its contents. * Mon Feb 06 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_75rh - Use fastjar to extract libgcj sources instead of unzip. * Mon Feb 06 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_74rh - Require gjdoc and libgcj-src packages for build. - Build API documentation. - Add -javadoc package. jpackage-utils-0:1.6.6-1jpp_2rh ------------------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.6.6-1jpp_2rh - Add /usr/share/java-1.3.1 and /usr/lib/java-1.3.1 directories. (160327) * Mon Feb 06 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons - 0:1.6.6-1jpp_1rh - Import jpackage-utils 0:1.6.6-1jpp from jpackage.org. - Add rebuild-security-providers script. - Install security directory in /etc. - Do not provide java-javadoc. - Do not install a dummy package-list file. - Do not take ownership of /usr/share/javadoc/java. * Sun Sep 18 2005 David Walluck 0:1.6.6-1jpp - always define macros kernel-2.6.15-1.1914_FC5 ------------------------ * Mon Feb 06 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc2-git2 * Mon Feb 06 2006 David Woodhouse - Update to current softmac/bcm43xx code. * Sun Feb 05 2006 Dave Jones - Fix sed failure if /etc/sysconfig/kernel doesn't exist. (#180025) krb5-1.4.3-4 ------------ * Mon Feb 06 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai 1.4.3-4 - give a little bit more information to the user when kinit gets the catch-all I/O error (#180175) * Thu Jan 19 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai 1.4.3-3 - rebuild properly when pthread_mutexattr_setrobust_np() is defined but not declared, such as with recent glibc when _GNU_SOURCE isn't being used * Thu Jan 19 2006 Matthias Clasen 1.4.3-2 - Use full paths in krb5.sh to avoid path lookups libidn-0.6.1-1 -------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Florian La Roche - 0.6.1 librsvg2-2.13.92-1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 06 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 libtool-1.5.22-2 ---------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Karsten Hopp 1.5.22-2 - libtool-ltdl-devel is LGPL (#168075) nautilus-2.13.90-2 ------------------ * Mon Feb 06 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.90-2 - Avoid delays in rendering the background * Tue Jan 31 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.90-1 - Update to 2.13.90 * Tue Jan 17 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.4-1 - Update to 2.13.4 openssh-4.3p1-2 --------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Tomas Mraz - 4.3p1-2 - fixed another place where syslog was called in signal handler - pass locale environment variables to server, accept them there (#179851) pango-1.11.4-1 -------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.11.4-1 - Update to 1.11.4 perl-4:5.8.8-1.2 ---------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4:5.8.8-1.2 - Rebuild with new gcc, glibc, and glibc-kernheaders * Fri Feb 03 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4:5.8.8-1.1 - Rebuild with new gcc and glibc * Wed Feb 01 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4:5.8.8-1 - Upgrade to new upstream release 5.8.8, officially released today planner-0.13-3 -------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Caolan McNamara - 0.13-3 - rh#179781# add evolution data server plugin python-pyblock-0.13-1 --------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Peter Jones - 0.13-1 - partition naming/creation/detection fixes - fixes for isw (ICH[4567]R) "groups" sed-4.1.5-1 ----------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Florian La Roche - 4.1.5 selinux-policy-2.2.11-2 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.11-2 - Fix for spamd to use razor port sharutils-4.6.1-1 ----------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Florian La Roche - 4.6.1 system-config-samba-1.2.33-1 ---------------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Nils Philippsen - 1.2.33 - fix typo in PAM file (#179937) tar-1.15.1-12 ------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Peter Vrabec 1.15.1-12 - fix extracting sparse files to a filesystem like vfat, when ftruncate may fail to grow the size of a file.(#179507) tclx-8.4.0-1 ------------ * Fri Feb 03 2006 David Cantrell - 8.4.0-1 - Upgraded to tclx-8.4.0 - Removed patches that applied to the old build method for tclx - Removed Tcl and Tk doc archives tomboy-0.3.5-1 -------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.3.5-1 - Tomboy 0.3.5 udev-078-9 ---------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Harald Hoyer - 078-9 - closed fd leak (bug #179980) unzip-5.52-2 ------------ * Mon Feb 06 2006 Ivana Varekova 5.52-2 - fix bug 180078 - unzip -l causing error - fix CVE-2005-4667 - unzip long file name buffer overflow * Thu Dec 22 2005 Ivana Varekova 5.52-1 - update to 5.52 * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt xorg-x11-server-1.0.1-2 ----------------------- * Sun Feb 05 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-2 - Added xorg-x11-server-1.0.1-fbpict-fix-rounding.patch from CVS HEAD. - Added xorg-x11-server-1.0.1-SEGV-on-null-interface.patch which prevents a SEGV on null interfaces (#174279,178986) zsh-4.2.5-1.2.1 --------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.2.5-1.2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 emacspeak - 23.0-1.noarch requires /usr/bin/tcl gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacspeak - 23.0-1.noarch requires /usr/bin/tcl rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- ccs-devel - 1.0.2-3.1.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.2-3.1 emacspeak - 23.0-1.noarch requires /usr/bin/tcl gulm - 1.0.4-2.FC5.1.ppc requires ccs Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi emacspeak - 23.0-1.noarch requires /usr/bin/tcl gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacspeak - 23.0-1.noarch requires /usr/bin/tcl systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- emacspeak - 23.0-1.noarch requires /usr/bin/tcl libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjava-2.8.so()(64bit) libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjni-2.8.so()(64bit) systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390x requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 emacspeak - 23.0-1.noarch requires /usr/bin/tcl gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 From che666 at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 08:43:51 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 09:43:51 +0100 Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? In-Reply-To: <1139238518.2828.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> <43E7297F.3060100@fedoraproject.org> <43E74C3F.2000606@mesias.co.uk> <43E75529.6030003@fedoraproject.org> <1139238518.2828.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2006/2/6, Roy-Magne Mo : > m? den 06.02.2006 klokka 19:24 (+0530) skreiv Rahul Sundaram: > > Cam wrote: > > > > > Thanks all for the info - I can give it a try now. > > > > > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide > > >> http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/ > > > > > > > > > Rahul, the links you gave were very top level and didn't cover network > > > install. Even searching within them it wasn't easy to find the answer > > > to my question (how to initiate network install on FC5 t2). The first > > > one claimed "Network installation does not work in the current > > > development tree" > > > > Last time I checked which was a week or so back, it didnt work for many > > people. I dont do daily installations from the rawhide tree to check. If > > anyone else is doing that feel free to update the testing guide to > > provide the latest information. > > > Tested ftp-based install yesterday in a xen-guest, and it works :) > You have to use the ordinary stage2.img instead of minstg2.img for text > based installs too. > > -- > Roy-Magne Mo > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > does the mini image provide pppoe support? would be a nice enhancement actually. regards, Rudolf Kastl From redhat at olen.net Tue Feb 7 08:54:26 2006 From: redhat at olen.net (Ola Thoresen) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 08:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <1138982540.3005.17.camel@odysseus> Message-ID: 2006-02-03 Ben Matteson wrote > On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 15:36 +0000, Ola Thoresen wrote: >> 2006-02-03 Ben Matteson wrote > >> You know - right now I could probably hug you - or at least buy you a >> couple of beers. It is friday anyway. >> >> I had previously tried to comment out only "load dri", but apparently I >> had to remove the whole DRI section as well. >> >> It's so good to be back with 1280x1024 again. >> > > Ola, > > Ah, glad to help. I know how you feel. When I had this problem, was > out of my mind trying to fix, and it took me sooooo long to figure out. > Glad I could save you the trouble. With the latest ATI-driver this problem - or a related one - seems to be back. (xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.7.3-3) This time there is no mention of DRI in the xorg.conf, but the symptoms are the same. Blank screen, no keyboard input, 100% cpu usage. The last messages in Xorg.0.log are (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) (II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... (btw. Is there any way to get the logs to both add some timestamps to each line, and maybe keep more than one ".old" to make it easier to try different settings and comparing the logs afterwards - I always forget to copy the old log to a safe place before making changes to xorg.conf and restarting X). > And I'd be happy to put back a few with you; I could use a few today. Just let me know the next time you are in Oslo... =;-) Ola (T) From che666 at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 09:03:52 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 10:03:52 +0100 Subject: yum leaving multiple versions installed In-Reply-To: <43E7D369.6080607@insight.rr.com> References: <43DFD555.4080009@adslpipe.co.uk> <200602060618.44644.sgrubb@redhat.com> <43E73DD2.1070201@insight.rr.com> <200602061034.59946.sgrubb@redhat.com> <43E7D369.6080607@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: 2006/2/6, Jim Cornette : > Steve Grubb wrote: > > On Monday 06 February 2006 07:15, Jim Cornette wrote: > >> I tried out your latest script with the -vw option and it matched > >> anything with kernel within it. > > > > Sorry, all my machines' rpm databases are screwed up in some way and never got > > it to run without complaining. New version below should be fine. > > No problem! My rpm database is in pretty good shape, though I had to > intervene a few time by rpm -qa and going through the whole listing of > packages that I have installed. > > The new version worked as intended. I checked that the packages like > kernel-devel are not matched by kernel. I assume that kernel-smp and its > devel patch would exact match also. > > > >> For test 2, what are you searching for? > > > > When you type "yum update rpm" on an x86_64 machine for example, it does not > > pull in neon for i386, it only grabs the x86_64 package. So, I have > > neon-0.24.7-10.1.i386 and neon-0.25.5-1.x86_64 on my system. This is not the > > way I want my system to be. Both versions should match. > > Thanks for the explanation. I am on i386 and did not know what you were > trying to catch. > > > > -Steve > > > > Jim > > PS - Thanks for the \ to continue lines. There were no problems cutting > and pasting the script into an editor and changing permissions. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > This thread is quite long. Actually whats yet the best script in terms of considering every yet recognized problem? regards, Rudolf Kastl From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 7 09:06:07 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:06:07 +1100 Subject: Wireless In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43E862FF.6040900@bigpond.net.au> Don Springall wrote: >> Did you shut down uncleanly before booting? >> >> Bill > > It is hard to tell because I do not get the shutdown mesages most of > the time. The screen just goes blank and then re-boots. It went down > badly the first time after my yum update but after that it seems to be > okay as I do not get and lost clusters being deleted at boot time. > When I do get messages I have noticed that network manager fails to > shut down properly often. I think you may be able to press shift or space during shutdown / reboot to see the messages. DaveT. From miles.lane at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 09:08:48 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 04:08:48 -0500 Subject: Any ETA for gimp-print 5.0.0 in Rawhide? Message-ID: Hello, I have an EPSON Stylus Photo R340. There is a driver for this printer in gimp-print 5.0.x. Right now, rawhide has gimp-print 4.2.0, which has a driver for a R300. This driver is unreliable sending output to my R340. Thanks, Miles From twaugh at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 10:00:27 2006 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 10:00:27 +0000 Subject: Any ETA for gimp-print 5.0.0 in Rawhide? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060207100027.GH16000@redhat.com> On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 04:08:48AM -0500, Miles Lane wrote: > I have an EPSON Stylus Photo R340. There is a driver for this printer > in gimp-print 5.0.x. Right now, rawhide has gimp-print 4.2.0, which > has a driver for a R300. This driver is unreliable sending output to > my R340. This isn't just a version upgrade, it's switching from gimp-print to gutenprint. A lot has changed, and it will need a lot of work. A minor correction: rawhide does not have gimp-print-4.2.0, but 4.2.7. There is now no chance that gutenprint will be in Fedora Core 5 that I can see (lack of time and resources), but let's try to get it in rawhide very soon after that. Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(need to hold shift to see numbers). > all the punctation and symbols aren't so good either. > > It could just be an RW CD gone bad, so let me know if you can repeat > this, and I'll bz it. > > If I type the wrong keys to get the right letters, the installer does > proceed with the correct text entered. (but text mode fails due to no > sqlite: > see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176492) > > DaveT. Today's boot.iso no longer has this problem, but others ;) From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 7 10:36:16 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 21:36:16 +1100 Subject: Fixed: Re: anaconda: us keyboard map messed up? In-Reply-To: <43E84242.2090709@mindspring.com> References: <20060207063606.GA10065@wolves.durham.nc.us> <43E84242.2090709@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <43E87820.90005@bigpond.net.au> Richard Hally wrote: > G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > >> I went to do a test install of today's rawhide (2006-02-06) and >> everything went fine until I had to type in the name and numbers for the >> NFS location of my local mirror. The number keys and the / symbol keys >> were quite thoroughly messed up, putting in control and above-ascii >> chars in the entry fields. >> ... >> Does anyone else see this problem? > Yes, also on http/ftp install: I think the selection versus the list position was one spot out, so while it looked like you selected the default us english, the other was selected. >> This is from an earlier thread ("trying to install rawhide"): > > On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 02:43 +0100, Erwin Rol wrote: > > > I have been trying to install the current rawhide on a older > machine, to > > > test if it works (my current rawhide machine is just an yum updated > > > FC4). > > > > > > But I don't get very far, It boots OK, than i get the language and > > > keyboard selection. I select US keyboard and than my A and Q and my W > > > and Y keys are switched, and probably a lot of other keys too. > > > > Ignoring the weird keyboard i select http install, and than get the > > > Message "Running anaconda, The Fedora System Installer - please wait" > > > and pretty much directly after that "install exited abnormally" and > > > there my install adventure is over. > > Hmm, can you switch to tty3 and see what the last thing printed there? > > > > It anybody actually using/testing the install system, or is it just > > > there for show until the next test release is here ? > > We're testing and fixing things as fast as we can -- unfortunately, > we're not perfect yet :-) Jeremy Keyboard fixed in todays boot.iso, but now other problems instead with text install. From rc040203 at freenet.de Tue Feb 7 10:43:53 2006 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 11:43:53 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060207 changes In-Reply-To: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139309034.1084.53.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 03:34 -0500, Build System wrote: > New package gnome-python2-desktop > autoconf-2.59-6 > --------------- > * Mon Feb 06 2006 Karsten Hopp 2.59-6 > - check for Xlib.h instead of Intrinsic.h to find X11 headers > (#176379) Not necessarily a good idea, because this renders FC generated configure scripts unnecessarily incompatible to FSF autoconf generated ones. Furthermore, the whole idea of checking for "X11 headers" is arguable, because the concept of common directories for "X11-includes/libraries" doesn't apply anymore with modular X anymore. Instead, we now have a "set of X11 devel packages", which just "happen to be installed to a common prefix". I would eagerly plea to revert this change. Ralf From pp at ee.oulu.fi Tue Feb 7 11:00:18 2006 From: pp at ee.oulu.fi (Pekka Pietikainen) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:00:18 +0200 Subject: Rawhide 20060206 install notes Message-ID: <20060207110017.GA6803@ee.oulu.fi> Trying to remember what all I ran into yesterday :) - Selecting individual packages caused an anaconda traceback (apparently fixed already) - No /etc/sysconfig/i18n, keyboard or timezone configuration after install had to run these manually - WEP with my MiniPCI aironet is broken unless I do KEY1= KEY2= KEY3= KEY4= DEFAULTKEY=1 (pcmcia aironet was happy). Probably http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-netdev&m=113918066619381&w=2 . Apparently davej/dcbw have been kicked about this, so no bugzilla :-) - in pycairo cairo.gtk doesn't get built due to a pygtk2 < 2.7.0 version check. (#180326) - selinux preventing a lot of stuff in suspend etc. working (I think I saw this mentioned on the list before). Hibernation doesn't actually hibernate, acpi suspend does work tho on the X31. Hmm... That's all that I can think of :-) From bilhega at gruposertanejo.com.br Tue Feb 7 12:18:26 2006 From: bilhega at gruposertanejo.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Carlos_Bilhega_Jr.?=) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 09:18:26 -0300 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Development_Boot_image_doesn=B4t_working_on_ppc?= In-Reply-To: <1139309034.1084.53.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> Message-ID: <20060207112643.D47F4246CF@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> Hi all, * Hardware : IBM eServer pSeries 620 Model 6F1 PowerPC 64bits 5 SCSI disks 3 MB RAM I burned a CD with the boot image (development/ppc) and during a install ( linux text ), this message occurs when loading the driver sym53c8xx: Loader received SIGSEGV. Backtrace: [0x10000d68] [0x100374] [0x10026798] [0x100238e4] [0x1000626e] [0x10007228] [0x10011258] [0x10002524] [0x1009ee30] [0x1009efb0] install exited abnormally sending termination signals... done sending kill signals... done disabling swap... unmounting filesystems... /proc done /dev/pts done /sys done /tmp/ramfs done you may safely reboot you system What should I do ? Jose Carlos From mharris at mharris.ca Tue Feb 7 12:16:10 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:16:10 -0500 Subject: ATI driver for X.org 7.0.0? In-Reply-To: References: <54707989-587B-48EB-AB86-69582FDB15C5@crc.id.au> <1138982540.3005.17.camel@odysseus> Message-ID: <43E88F8A.6000001@mharris.ca> Ola Thoresen wrote: > The last messages in Xorg.0.log are > > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) > (II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded > (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... > (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... > (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... > (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... > (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... > (EE) RADEON(0): Idle timed out, resetting engine... Kernel bug perhaps... > (btw. Is there any way to get the logs to both add some timestamps to > each line, and maybe keep more than one ".old" to make it easier to try > different settings and comparing the logs afterwards - I always forget > to copy the old log to a safe place before making changes to xorg.conf > and restarting X). Yep, you can patch the X server sources to add that sort of functionality if desired. Might want to submit it to X.Org also if you decide to, so it's potentially available in future releases too. HTH -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Tue Feb 7 12:22:09 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:22:09 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060207 changes In-Reply-To: <1139309034.1084.53.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> References: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139309034.1084.53.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> Message-ID: <43E890F1.9060903@mharris.ca> Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 03:34 -0500, Build System wrote: > >>New package gnome-python2-desktop > > >>autoconf-2.59-6 >>--------------- >>* Mon Feb 06 2006 Karsten Hopp 2.59-6 >>- check for Xlib.h instead of Intrinsic.h to find X11 headers >> (#176379) > > > Not necessarily a good idea, because this renders FC generated configure > scripts unnecessarily incompatible to FSF autoconf generated ones. > > Furthermore, the whole idea of checking for "X11 headers" is arguable, > because the concept of common directories for "X11-includes/libraries" > doesn't apply anymore with modular X anymore. Instead, we now have a > "set of X11 devel packages", which just "happen to be installed to a > common prefix". > > I would eagerly plea to revert this change. I'd go one step further, and consider the change to be a bug. All of the X libraries install pkgconfig *.pc files in X11R7.0 as a standard. Various other things like the SDK, font utils, etc. also install pkgconfig files. All packages in the distribution which need to know where the X headers are installed, or need to know anything that is supplied via the pkgconfig files, should use pkg-config to find it. If a package wishes to retain build time compatibility with X11R6 et al. it could use fallbacks if the pkg-config files aren't present, however from here on out, using pkgconfig is the very highly recommended way to detect the X libraries and other bits and pieces. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From ch at code-heads.com Tue Feb 7 12:36:33 2006 From: ch at code-heads.com (CodeHeads) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:36:33 -0500 Subject: OT: Command / tip List Message-ID: <1139315793.2649.9.camel@FC5> Hello all, Paul Smith and I have been working on a command / tip list. If you are interested in adding to the database please do. :) If there are any bugs, please let me know. As far as I know they have been worked out, I hope. -- Best regards, ~WILL~ Public Key: 0xC8E166BB Key: http://code-heads.com/keys/ch1.asc Linux Registered User: 406084 (http://counter.li.org/) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If I bring up a Gnome Terminal and click on it while accessing the machine using vino it causes the entire line in the terminal to highlight all the blank characters on a line. This does not happen if you click on the terminal when accessing it from the monitor/keyboard/mouse. Is there a reason for this, or is it a bug. From ellson at research.att.com Tue Feb 7 13:03:49 2006 From: ellson at research.att.com (John Ellson) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:03:49 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060207 changes In-Reply-To: <1139309034.1084.53.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> References: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139309034.1084.53.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> Message-ID: <43E89AB5.1060904@research.att.com> Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 03:34 -0500, Build System wrote: > >> New package gnome-python2-desktop >> > > >> autoconf-2.59-6 >> --------------- >> * Mon Feb 06 2006 Karsten Hopp 2.59-6 >> - check for Xlib.h instead of Intrinsic.h to find X11 headers >> (#176379) >> > > Not necessarily a good idea, because this renders FC generated configure > scripts unnecessarily incompatible to FSF autoconf generated ones. > > Furthermore, the whole idea of checking for "X11 headers" is arguable, > because the concept of common directories for "X11-includes/libraries" > doesn't apply anymore with modular X anymore. Instead, we now have a > "set of X11 devel packages", which just "happen to be installed to a > common prefix". > > I would eagerly plea to revert this change. > > Ralf > > > > The AC_PATH_XTRA macro doesn't work today. Is that a result of this change? John From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 13:08:36 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 08:08:36 -0500 Subject: Minor nuiscance with Gnome Terminal when using vino In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa7910602070508gce5bd85h5cdaaa10b40b2468@mail.gmail.com> On 2/7/06, Jason Montleon wrote: > Is there a reason for this, or is it a bug. Which vnc client are you using to connect to the vino managed vnc session? Does this happen with xterm or another terminal? Does this happen if you use a normal vnc-server managed session instead of vino? -jef From monty19 at hotmail.com Tue Feb 7 13:33:21 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 22:33:21 +0900 Subject: Minor nuiscance with Gnome Terminal when using vino References: <604aa7910602070508gce5bd85h5cdaaa10b40b2468@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I normally use RealVNC 4.1.1 client, but for the sake of testing I also tried TightVNC 1.2.9, and it did the same thing. I also tried to get the same thing to happen with xterm, and it does not. And based on your input I tried it with a VNC managed session just now, and the behaviour does not exist with that configuration. So that you can see what I am talking about, just clicking on the Gnome Terminal causes the whole end of the line to appear high lighted black as in this picture: http://www.montleon.com/images/vnc.png. I am aware that moving the mouse while clicking could cause things to highlight, but I have been very steady while hovering the mouse over the terminal when clicking to see if it's me or the software that's F'ed up. So far as I can tell it's the software. I'd hardly consider it show stopping; it does annoy me that vino is behaving differently than vnc and a regular desktop session, but I don't think I'd exactly cry over it. Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Spaleta" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:08 PM Subject: Re: Minor nuiscance with Gnome Terminal when using vino > On 2/7/06, Jason Montleon wrote: >> Is there a reason for this, or is it a bug. > > Which vnc client are you using to connect to the vino managed vnc session? > Does this happen with xterm or another terminal? > Does this happen if you use a normal vnc-server managed session instead of > vino? > > -jef > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From rmo at sunnmore.net Tue Feb 7 13:52:50 2006 From: rmo at sunnmore.net (Roy-Magne Mo) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:52:50 +0100 Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? In-Reply-To: References: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> <43E7297F.3060100@fedoraproject.org> <43E74C3F.2000606@mesias.co.uk> <43E75529.6030003@fedoraproject.org> <1139238518.2828.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1139320370.29646.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> ty den 07.02.2006 klokka 09:43 (+0100) skreiv Rudolf Kastl: > does the mini image provide pppoe support? would be a nice enhancement actually. Never seen that in anaconda, but wouldn't be too hard to implement if there was a demand -- Roy-Magne Mo From ch at code-heads.com Tue Feb 7 13:55:05 2006 From: ch at code-heads.com (CodeHeads) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:55:05 -0500 Subject: OT: Command / tip List In-Reply-To: <1139315793.2649.9.camel@FC5> References: <1139315793.2649.9.camel@FC5> Message-ID: <1139320506.3432.4.camel@FC5> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 07:36 -0500, CodeHeads wrote: > Hello all, > > Paul Smith and I have been working on a command / tip list. If you are > interested in adding to the database please do. :) > > If there are any bugs, please let me know. As far as I know they have > been worked out, I hope. OOPPPSS, Sorry forgot the URL: http://code-heads.com/commands -- Best regards, ~WILL~ Public Key: 0xC8E166BB Key: http://code-heads.com/keys/ch1.asc Linux Registered User: 406084 (http://counter.li.org/) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dcbw at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 13:58:46 2006 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:58:46 -0500 Subject: Wireless In-Reply-To: <43E7C536.7060506@amberpoint.com> References: <43E7AED0.1060203@amberpoint.com> <43E7C536.7060506@amberpoint.com> Message-ID: <1139320726.3795.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 13:52 -0800, Brian Anderson wrote: > Well, I've been doing a bit more investigation of this. I am using the > madwifi-ng driver (svn revision 1443) which was working fine with > NetworkManager-0.5.1-8.cvs20060131, but stops working with > NetworkManager-0.5.1-10.cvs20060205. I reverted to the previous version > and NM connects. Curiously enough, many of the changes to the latest NetworkManager were to make it play nicely with madwifi-ng. I was using svn 1438 (Sun Feb 5) for my testing. 1411 (from ~ Jan 24) was completely busted with wpa_supplicant. I'll have to test with the updated svn to see what's amiss. Dan From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 14:11:21 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 09:11:21 -0500 Subject: Minor nuiscance with Gnome Terminal when using vino In-Reply-To: References: <604aa7910602070508gce5bd85h5cdaaa10b40b2468@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602070611i609524bcp18b46d828ca437cd@mail.gmail.com> On 2/7/06, Jason Montleon wrote: > I normally use RealVNC 4.1.1 client, but for the sake of testing I also > tried TightVNC 1.2.9, and it did the same thing. I also tried to get the > same thing to happen with xterm, and it does not. And based on your input I > tried it with a VNC managed session just now, and the behaviour does not > exist with that configuration. to be clear.... was that xterm managed by the metacity window manager? And the vnc managed session was the normal gnome desktop? > So that you can see what I am talking about I know exactly what you are talking about.. I see it as well on rawhide and fc4 systems exporting a remote desktop using vino. I'm just trying to narrow in on the exact conditions that trigger this. If it only happens with gnome-terminal and only via a vino managed session I would think its probably a vino bug that vte just happens to see. File this against vino and make sure you point that you compared against a normal vnc session. -jef From che666 at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 14:11:36 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 15:11:36 +0100 Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? In-Reply-To: <1139320370.29646.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> <43E7297F.3060100@fedoraproject.org> <43E74C3F.2000606@mesias.co.uk> <43E75529.6030003@fedoraproject.org> <1139238518.2828.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1139320370.29646.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2006/2/7, Roy-Magne Mo : > ty den 07.02.2006 klokka 09:43 (+0100) skreiv Rudolf Kastl: > > > does the mini image provide pppoe support? would be a nice enhancement actually. > > Never seen that in anaconda, but wouldn't be too hard to implement if > there was a demand > > > -- > Roy-Magne Mo > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > pppoe dsl is quite widespread e.g. in germany. for those that dont have a router its the only possibility. while you can setup nics in the installer wouldnt it be better to be able to setup all kinds of networking rather? there might be reasons why its not done this way but then again no pppoe support no network install for me. regards, Rudolf Kastl From rc040203 at freenet.de Tue Feb 7 14:24:53 2006 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:24:53 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060207 changes In-Reply-To: <43E89AB5.1060904@research.att.com> References: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139309034.1084.53.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> <43E89AB5.1060904@research.att.com> Message-ID: <1139322293.1084.58.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 08:03 -0500, John Ellson wrote: > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 03:34 -0500, Build System wrote: > > > >> New package gnome-python2-desktop > >> > > > > > >> autoconf-2.59-6 > >> --------------- > >> * Mon Feb 06 2006 Karsten Hopp 2.59-6 > >> - check for Xlib.h instead of Intrinsic.h to find X11 headers > >> (#176379) > >> > > > > Not necessarily a good idea, because this renders FC generated configure > > scripts unnecessarily incompatible to FSF autoconf generated ones. > > > > Furthermore, the whole idea of checking for "X11 headers" is arguable, > > because the concept of common directories for "X11-includes/libraries" > > doesn't apply anymore with modular X anymore. Instead, we now have a > > "set of X11 devel packages", which just "happen to be installed to a > > common prefix". > > > > I would eagerly plea to revert this change. > > > > Ralf > > > > > > > > > The AC_PATH_XTRA macro doesn't work today. Is that a result of this change? If you expect AC_PATH_XTRA to pickup libXt and friends (libICE, libXm etc. - it did until now), probably yes. Ralf From selinux at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 14:38:55 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 06:38:55 -0800 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <43E8277A.6060405@gmail.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> <4c4ba1530602061105o1d732111n7138f444cccbc6a6@mail.gmail.com> <43E8277A.6060405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602070638v3a9dcd20k233cc449f142cfd9@mail.gmail.com> Hmm, I'm confused.... Running the same version of vmware on stock rawhide system 'breaks' vmware usb handling. Petr (of vmware/linux fame) states that vmware needs the 'older 2.4' /proc/bus/usb/devices file (and file format). On my system, mounting /proc/bus/usb on /dev/bus/usb as type usbfs fixes (e.g., mount -t usbfs /dev/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb). Unmounting breaks it again. tom From selinux at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 14:50:12 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 06:50:12 -0800 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <43E8277A.6060405@gmail.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> <4c4ba1530602061105o1d732111n7138f444cccbc6a6@mail.gmail.com> <43E8277A.6060405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602070650s54f2112coa7c6b38d552607fa@mail.gmail.com> Hmm, I may have misunderstood the response. The problem I am having is that 'without a usbfs mount' vmware no longer recoginzes and supports USB devices on my system (e.g., USB printer, USB thumb drive, etc.). Prior to this change, vmware would allow me to setup the virt.machine to connect to such. USB support in gnome or in the linux 'host' machine was not broken. tom From chris at tylers.info Tue Feb 7 14:52:07 2006 From: chris at tylers.info (Chris Tyler) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:52:07 -0500 Subject: Keyboard situation - Non-US users dead in water? In-Reply-To: <20060207111703.CBE477331B@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060207111703.CBE477331B@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139323927.19573.44.camel@concord2.proximity.on.ca> There are a number of interacting issues surrounding XKB at this point, but the bottom line is that many (most? all?) users using non-US keyboards are pretty much dead in the water right now. Putting aside issues with libxklavier and keyboard options, the console (non-X) keyboard maps, and the keyboard switching applet, it's simply not possible to select certain keyboards which are in widespread use. Here's one example: in FC4 and before, the de-facto standard French Canadian keyboard was identified as ca_enhanced, and it worked reasonably well. (Note: This is the keyboard that is shipped by Dell, IBM, HP, etc, and the keyboard that you you would buy at a Future Shop/Best Buy in Quebec. English Canadian users (such as myself) use the "us" keyboard layout. All other "Canadian keyboards" are corner cases). With the current set of XKB data, this keyboard is identified as ca(fr), and it can be selected manually: setxkbmap "ca(fr)" When selected in this way, they keyboard works perfectly (except for RightAlt-E which is labelled as Euro on newer versions of the keyboard). However, this keyboard option cannot be selected at installation time, nor can it be correctly selected after installation using the KDE or Gnome applets, which expose the corner-case keyboards but don't provide an option for this one. I'm assuming (from browsing Bugzilla) that similar problems exist for some of the other international keyboards. (It's unclear to me where the current (X11R7) set of xkb maps came from. They're not the legacy maps that shipped with 6.8.2, but they're not the current xkeyboard-config maps either - perhaps they're a snapshot of older xkeyboard-config data, since they seem closer to xkeyboard-config than they do to the 6.8.2 set). What needs to be done to get this working for FC5? -- Chris Tyler From grejigl-gnomeprevod at yahoo.ca Tue Feb 7 15:13:07 2006 From: grejigl-gnomeprevod at yahoo.ca (ÐÐ³Ð¾Ñ ÐилеÑиÑ) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 10:13:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Keyboard situation - Non-US users dead in water? In-Reply-To: <1139323927.19573.44.camel@concord2.proximity.on.ca> Message-ID: <20060207151307.471.qmail@web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Chris Tyler wrote: There are a number of interacting issues surrounding XKB at this point, but the bottom line is that many (most? all?) users using non-US keyboards are pretty much dead in the water right now. Putting aside issues with libxklavier and keyboard options, the console (non-X) keyboard maps, and the keyboard switching applet, it's simply not possible to select certain keyboards which are in widespread use. I would like to add here that options to switch keyboard on the fly with shortcut keys is a must. What happened to me couple of times is that I use by default "us" keyboard, but every now and then I would send an email in Cyrillic and I would forget to switch back to "us" mapping. Then screen saver would turn on and I would try to log in. Unfortunately, my keyboard mapping is in Cyrillic at that moment and password has to be typed in "us" mapping. In FC4 and FC3 I would just hit my magic keyboard combination and I would go back to "us" mapping. But this is not an option anymore in keyboard settings. It is a bit annoying to get locked out of the system when screen saver turns on. Igor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katzj at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 15:46:41 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:46:41 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060207 changes In-Reply-To: <1139309034.1084.53.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> References: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139309034.1084.53.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> Message-ID: <1139327201.20462.0.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 11:43 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 03:34 -0500, Build System wrote: > > New package gnome-python2-desktop > > autoconf-2.59-6 > > --------------- > > * Mon Feb 06 2006 Karsten Hopp 2.59-6 > > - check for Xlib.h instead of Intrinsic.h to find X11 headers > > (#176379) > > Not necessarily a good idea, because this renders FC generated configure > scripts unnecessarily incompatible to FSF autoconf generated ones. The patch is also applied to upstream autoconf. See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-autoconf/2005-09/msg00024.html Jeremy From katzj at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 15:55:08 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:55:08 -0500 Subject: Rawhide 20060206 install notes In-Reply-To: <20060207110017.GA6803@ee.oulu.fi> References: <20060207110017.GA6803@ee.oulu.fi> Message-ID: <1139327709.20462.4.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 13:00 +0200, Pekka Pietikainen wrote: > - Selecting individual packages caused an anaconda traceback (apparently > fixed already) Yep, committed a fix for this one. > - No /etc/sysconfig/i18n, keyboard or timezone configuration after install > had to run these manually Also committed a fix for this one last night. Jeremy From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Feb 7 16:12:01 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 17:12:01 +0100 Subject: network install of fc5 t2 possible? In-Reply-To: References: <43E72060.4050907@mesias.co.uk> <43E7297F.3060100@fedoraproject.org> <43E74C3F.2000606@mesias.co.uk> <43E75529.6030003@fedoraproject.org> <1139238518.2828.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1139320370.29646.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43E8C6D1.8050104@gmx.de> On 07.02.2006 15:11, Rudolf Kastl wrote: >2006/2/7, Roy-Magne Mo : > > >>>does the mini image provide pppoe support? would be a nice enhancement actually. >>> >>> >>Never seen that in anaconda, but wouldn't be too hard to implement if >>there was a demand >> >pppoe dsl is quite widespread e.g. in germany. for those that dont >have a router its the only possibility. > >while you can setup nics in the installer wouldnt it be better to be >able to setup all kinds of networking rather? > >there might be reasons why its not done this way but then again no >pppoe support no network install for me. > please file a rfe in bugzilla, i have the same problem here. how can i start a network install via internet if this box is the dsl-router? how can i setup eg. rp-pppoe (adsl-setup) in anaconda? thanks. -- shrek-m From rc040203 at freenet.de Tue Feb 7 16:35:49 2006 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 17:35:49 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060207 changes In-Reply-To: <1139327201.20462.0.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> References: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139309034.1084.53.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> <1139327201.20462.0.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139330149.1084.70.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 10:46 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 11:43 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 03:34 -0500, Build System wrote: > > > New package gnome-python2-desktop > > > autoconf-2.59-6 > > > --------------- > > > * Mon Feb 06 2006 Karsten Hopp 2.59-6 > > > - check for Xlib.h instead of Intrinsic.h to find X11 headers > > > (#176379) > > > > Not necessarily a good idea, because this renders FC generated configure > > scripts unnecessarily incompatible to FSF autoconf generated ones. > > The patch is also applied to upstream autoconf. See > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-autoconf/2005-09/msg00024.html Upstream == autoconf-2.60 == untested, unreleased, potentially buggy. However, what upstream does, doesn't matter in this case: You have hacked a autoconf-2.59 in a proprietary way, FC5-autoconf generated scripts will be non-reproducible on other platforms. As an isolated FC5 specific hack, this step is not helpful - If upstream introduces it to autoconf-2.60, this change would be helpful. Also, this patch is meaningless/non-functional when using vanilla autoconf-2.59 generated configure scripts on FC5, nor does it fix configure scripts having been generated by ancient autoconf version. Ralf From dwalsh at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 16:47:46 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel Walsh) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 11:47:46 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: selinux-policy-targeted-1.27.1-2.21 Message-ID: <200602071647.k17Glk117127@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-101 2006-02-07 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : selinux-policy-targeted Version : 1.27.1 Release : 2.21 Summary : SELinux targeted policy configuration Description : Security-enhanced Linux is a patch of the Linux?? kernel and a number of utilities with enhanced security functionality designed to add mandatory access controls to Linux. The Security-enhanced Linux kernel contains new architectural components originally developed to improve the security of the Flask operating system. These architectural components provide general support for the enforcement of many kinds of mandatory access control policies, including those based on the concepts of Type Enforcement??, Role-based Access Control, and Multi-level Security. This package contains the SELinux example policy configuration along with the Flask configuration information and the application configuration files. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Mon Feb 6 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.21 - Allow zebra to use bgp - Allow spamd to connect to razor * Wed Jan 18 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.20 - Add ldap support to spamd - Auditing changes * Wed Jan 18 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.19 - Add support for labeled networking in upcoming kernel - Fix man page and booleans file --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 87a1d93ad6f6bc2fe1f74e57a6966f8ac25c1f57 SRPMS/selinux-policy-targeted-1.27.1-2.21.src.rpm 7fd29150fe87b803a9244baaacb71d51e3d6f822 ppc/selinux-policy-targeted-1.27.1-2.21.noarch.rpm d6dd9d59d25b78b1689a43271de183de4670cc7b ppc/selinux-policy-targeted-sources-1.27.1-2.21.noarch.rpm 7fd29150fe87b803a9244baaacb71d51e3d6f822 x86_64/selinux-policy-targeted-1.27.1-2.21.noarch.rpm d6dd9d59d25b78b1689a43271de183de4670cc7b x86_64/selinux-policy-targeted-sources-1.27.1-2.21.noarch.rpm 7fd29150fe87b803a9244baaacb71d51e3d6f822 i386/selinux-policy-targeted-1.27.1-2.21.noarch.rpm d6dd9d59d25b78b1689a43271de183de4670cc7b i386/selinux-policy-targeted-sources-1.27.1-2.21.noarch.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwalsh at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 16:47:47 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel Walsh) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 11:47:47 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: selinux-policy-strict-1.27.1-2.21 Message-ID: <200602071647.k17Gll117139@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-101 2006-02-07 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : selinux-policy-strict Version : 1.27.1 Release : 2.21 Summary : SELinux strict policy configuration Description : Security-enhanced Linux is a patch of the Linux?? kernel and a number of utilities with enhanced security functionality designed to add mandatory access controls to Linux. The Security-enhanced Linux kernel contains new architectural components originally developed to improve the security of the Flask operating system. These architectural components provide general support for the enforcement of many kinds of mandatory access control policies, including those based on the concepts of Type Enforcement??, Role-based Access Control, and Multi-level Security. This package contains the SELinux example policy configuration along with the Flask configuration information and the application configuration files. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Mon Feb 6 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.21 - Allow zebra to use bgp - Allow spamd to connect to razor * Wed Jan 18 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.20 - Add ldap support to spamd - Auditing changes * Wed Jan 18 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.19 - Add support for labeled networking in upcoming kernel - Fix man page and booleans file --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 4450fae46028ade04f88746861126365607a874b SRPMS/selinux-policy-strict-1.27.1-2.21.src.rpm 8158591530cddcbb14947c6bd090006b4bbe8577 ppc/selinux-policy-strict-1.27.1-2.21.noarch.rpm ce87f76c95714c5276e54c6f1a10105c6970eeb8 ppc/selinux-policy-strict-sources-1.27.1-2.21.noarch.rpm 8158591530cddcbb14947c6bd090006b4bbe8577 x86_64/selinux-policy-strict-1.27.1-2.21.noarch.rpm ce87f76c95714c5276e54c6f1a10105c6970eeb8 x86_64/selinux-policy-strict-sources-1.27.1-2.21.noarch.rpm 8158591530cddcbb14947c6bd090006b4bbe8577 i386/selinux-policy-strict-1.27.1-2.21.noarch.rpm ce87f76c95714c5276e54c6f1a10105c6970eeb8 i386/selinux-policy-strict-sources-1.27.1-2.21.noarch.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Tue Feb 7 16:48:05 2006 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 11:48:05 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060207 changes In-Reply-To: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E8CF45.2060805@cox.net> Build System wrote: > tclx-8.4.0-1 > ------------ > * Fri Feb 03 2006 David Cantrell - 8.4.0-1 > - Upgraded to tclx-8.4.0 > - Removed patches that applied to the old build method for tclx > - Removed Tcl and Tk doc archives > > > Broken deps for i386 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp > GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp > cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp > dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > emacspeak - 23.0-1.noarch requires /usr/bin/tcl > gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp > gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 > > I see that emacspeak requires /usr/bin/tcl as yum reports when I upgrade: Resolving Dependencies --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package tclx.i386 0:8.4.0-1 set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: /usr/bin/tcl for package: emacspeak --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: /usr/bin/tcl is needed by package emacspeak [root at P4C800ED ~]# rpm -q tcl tcl-8.4.12-3 [root at P4C800ED ~]# ls -l /usr/bin/tcl -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8152 Dec 17 13:39 /usr/bin/tcl but, it seems to be there. [root at P4C800ED ~]# rpm -q emacspeak emacspeak-23.0-1 [root at P4C800ED ~]# rpm -q tclx tclx-8.3.5-6.1 [root at P4C800ED ~]# Must be something obvious that some kind person will explain. Should there be a different version of tcl? TIA.... -- Regards, Old Fart (my reply-to address is "munged" to defeat spambots) From twaugh at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 17:10:14 2006 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 12:10:14 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: xmltex-20020625-5.2 Message-ID: <200602071710.k17HAE127407@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-899 2006-02-07 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : xmltex Version : 20020625 Release : 5.2 Summary : Namespace-aware XML parser written in TeX. Description : Namespace-aware XML parser written in TeX. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: A problem with building the TeX format file has been corrected. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Feb 7 2006 Tim Waugh 20020625-5.2 - Fix xmltex symlink (-> latex) (bug #168728). * Tue Sep 20 2005 Tim Waugh 20020625-5.1 - Build fmt file using &latex not &hugelatex (bug #168728). --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 80acd2bf2648e540d03996357c43142ef0c1db00 SRPMS/xmltex-20020625-5.2.src.rpm b3aa9c3023e9f14beb2f53dd31039ec0e2790237 ppc/xmltex-20020625-5.2.noarch.rpm b3aa9c3023e9f14beb2f53dd31039ec0e2790237 x86_64/xmltex-20020625-5.2.noarch.rpm b3aa9c3023e9f14beb2f53dd31039ec0e2790237 i386/xmltex-20020625-5.2.noarch.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 7 17:04:32 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 18:04:32 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060207 changes In-Reply-To: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0602070904k535e4eaci5a074f01cbd96c1d@mail.gmail.com> > anaconda-10.91.16-1 > ------------------- > * Mon Feb 06 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.91.16-1 > - fix writing out instdata for root password, etc (#180310) > > * Mon Feb 06 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.91.15-1 > - Remove debugging code that broke showing the Xen option on the task screen > - More sqlite files (#171232) > - Fix traceback for new method pirut depends on > - Ensure /dev/root exists (Patrick Mansfield) > - Force buttonbar on main screen active in congrats (dcantrel, #179924) > - Always pass loglevel (dcantrel) > - BR libXt-devel (dcantrel) > - Don't try to make /dev/mapper devs (pjones) > - More consistency in dev naming for dmraid (pjones) > - Start of iscsi patches (Patrick Mansfield) > - Fix pre-existing RAID chunksize reading (#178291) Hello, Ive just updated to anaconda-10.91.16-1. import dispatch is failing ! [root at goorah FC5T2]# kadischi /tmp/FC5T2/ /tmp/FC5kde.iso Starting kadischi... Parsing command line arguments Checking UID Using buildstamp file /etc/kadischi/buildstamp. Product path set to Fedora. Now we are going to try to validate your repository (for now, only http, ftp and local repositories can be checked) Path /tmp/FC5T2 exists. OK Path /tmp/FC5T2/Fedora exists. OK Path /tmp/FC5T2/Fedora/base exists. OK Path /tmp/FC5T2/Fedora/RPMS exists. OK Repository seems to be OK. Checking required packages Looking for config file Loadnig config file options *** running anaconda *** Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/anaconda", line 377, in ? import dispatch File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 34, in ? from bootloader import writeBootloader, bootloaderSetupChoices File "/usr/lib/anaconda/bootloader.py", line 33, in ? from booty import * File "/usr/lib/booty/booty.py", line 28, in ? from bootloaderInfo import * File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 713 if grubTarget[-2] == 'p' or ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax *** Fatal error: anaconda returned non zero (256) exit code. Aborting execution. Cleaning up temporary files... Done. From tatxe at tatxe.org Tue Feb 7 17:25:18 2006 From: tatxe at tatxe.org (tatxe) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 18:25:18 +0100 Subject: Eclipse and FTP/Webdav Message-ID: <1139333118.5524.7.camel@localhost> Hi all: I was dowloaded eclipse for fedora and install FTP/Webdav from Eclipse Updates menu. When I open Target Management to use the ftp/webdav view shows me this message: Unable to create view: Plug-in org.eclipse.team.webdav was unable to load class org.eclipse.team.internal.ui.target.SiteExplorerView. I'ts normal?, I mean, Eclipse for fedora doesn't work this plugin?. It's quite important to me because the only way that I have to sync with my websites is via FTP. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Esta parte del mensaje est? firmada digitalmente URL: From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 7 17:29:44 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 18:29:44 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060207 changes In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0602070904k535e4eaci5a074f01cbd96c1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0602070904k535e4eaci5a074f01cbd96c1d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0602070929j56d8cb7ge6ae9bcbb67c0865@mail.gmail.com> > File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 713 > if grubTarget[-2] == 'p' or > ^ > SyntaxError: invalid syntax if ( grubTarget[-2] == 'p' or (grubTarget[-2].isdigit() and grubTarget[-3] == 'p') ) : ive added ( and ) and am having the network config first afterwards on clicking on next seems that anaconda is operational afterwards with the network config as first screen. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From icon at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 7 17:32:57 2006 From: icon at fedoraproject.org (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 12:32:57 -0500 Subject: Keyboard situation - Non-US users dead in water? In-Reply-To: <20060207151307.471.qmail@web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060207151307.471.qmail@web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43E8D9C9.4080101@fedoraproject.org> You wrote: > What happened to me couple of times is that I use by default "us" > keyboard, but every now and then I would send an email in Cyrillic and I > would forget to switch back to "us" mapping. Then screen saver would > turn on and I would try to log in. Unfortunately, my! keyboard mapping > is in Cyrillic at that moment and password has to be typed in "us" > mapping. In FC4 and FC3 I would just hit my magic keyboard combination > and I would go back to "us" mapping. But this is not an option anymore > in keyboard settings. It is a bit annoying to get locked out of the > system when screen saver turns on. Well, this is a side-effect of brokenness in libxclavier. It is supposedly fixed upstream,so we should see non-useless keyboard options, including those needed to switch between layouts, in the final gnome release. Regards, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev McGill University WSG Book: "You don't fix faith, River. It fixes you." --Episode #7, "Jaynestown" From notting at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 17:35:44 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 12:35:44 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060207 changes In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0602070904k535e4eaci5a074f01cbd96c1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0602070904k535e4eaci5a074f01cbd96c1d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060207173544.GB2182@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Chitlesh GOORAH (chitlesh at fedoraproject.org) said: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/sbin/anaconda", line 377, in ? > import dispatch > File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 34, in ? > from bootloader import writeBootloader, bootloaderSetupChoices > File "/usr/lib/anaconda/bootloader.py", line 33, in ? > from booty import * > File "/usr/lib/booty/booty.py", line 28, in ? > from bootloaderInfo import * > File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 713 > if grubTarget[-2] == 'p' or > ^ > SyntaxError: invalid syntax booty bug, fixed in 0.67-1, should be out tomorrw. Bill From jim at jbsys.com Tue Feb 7 18:08:11 2006 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 11:08:11 -0700 Subject: What's up with yum plugin? Message-ID: <030b01c62c11$75047390$0a01a8c0@jbsys> I have enabled=1 and tokeep=4 in installonlyn.conf file. When yum tries to install the 4th kernel, it deletes two of the current kernels. That leave me with two. On the next kernel update, nothing is deleted and I have three kernels. It seems the plugin code is really confused. Anyone else seeing this? Jim From cjones at patriot.net Tue Feb 7 18:13:47 2006 From: cjones at patriot.net (Claude Jones) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:13:47 -0500 Subject: system unbootable - libpam.so.0 In-Reply-To: <200602061553.31100.cjones@patriot.net> References: <200602061553.31100.cjones@patriot.net> Message-ID: <200602071313.48167.cjones@patriot.net> On Monday 06 February 2006 3:53 pm, Claude Jones wrote: > I get failures on cusd, sshd, crond, and atd after today's updates. The > system gets to hal which reports "OK", and then just stalls. Didn't write > them down, but the messages in each case refer to libpam.so.0 problems No one's responded, so maybe there was too little info. The boot errors say the following: error while loading shared libraries: libpam.so.0 cannot open shared object file: no such or directory These occur with cupsd, sshd, crond, atd I'm running kernel 1898 Booting into the previous kernel got the same result Booting into run level 3 got me to login prompt, but , entering the username returns another query for the username Tried booting in interactive mode and saying no when it tried to start affected services, but it still stalled, this time after "start svc. local" Tried again saying no to the daemons and to start service local, but it still stalled The machine is unbootable - does anyone have a suggestion given the above addtional info? -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA From tbrinkman at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 7 18:18:22 2006 From: tbrinkman at sbcglobal.net (Tom Brinkman) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 12:18:22 -0600 Subject: What's up with yum plugin? In-Reply-To: <030b01c62c11$75047390$0a01a8c0@jbsys> References: <030b01c62c11$75047390$0a01a8c0@jbsys> Message-ID: <200602071218.22955.tbrinkman@sbcglobal.net> On Tuesday 07 February 2006 12:08, James C. Bevier wrote: > I have enabled=1 and tokeep=4 in installonlyn.conf file. When yum > tries to install the 4th kernel, it deletes two of the current > kernels. That leave me with two. On the next kernel update, > nothing is deleted and I have three kernels. It seems the plugin > code is really confused. Anyone else seeing this? > > Jim Yes, exactly the same. I also had enabled=1 an tokeep=4. Today's update (1914) left me with only the most recent two. The only time I got up to 4 kernels retained, I had tokeep=5. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas From fedora at leemhuis.info Tue Feb 7 18:20:21 2006 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:20:21 +0100 Subject: Any ETA for gimp-print 5.0.0 in Rawhide? In-Reply-To: <20060207100027.GH16000@redhat.com> References: <20060207100027.GH16000@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139336421.2967.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> Am Dienstag, den 07.02.2006, 10:00 +0000 schrieb Tim Waugh: > On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 04:08:48AM -0500, Miles Lane wrote: > > > I have an EPSON Stylus Photo R340. There is a driver for this printer > > in gimp-print 5.0.x. Right now, rawhide has gimp-print 4.2.0, which > > has a driver for a R300. This driver is unreliable sending output to > > my R340. > > This isn't just a version upgrade, it's switching from gimp-print to > gutenprint. A lot has changed, and it will need a lot of work. >[...] > There is now no chance that gutenprint will be in Fedora Core 5 that I > can see (lack of time and resources), but let's try to get it in > rawhide very soon after that. Can gutenprint be installed in parallel with gimp-print? Then we could (and should) add it to Fedora Extras 5 after the final version of gutenprint is released. /me really would like to see gutenprint in FC5 because it supports lots of (epson) printers from round about the last 1 1/2 years that are not supported by gimp-print. It's a pity that gutenprint is still beta and that there are no resources to get it into FC5 -- well, that's life. -- Thorsten Leemhuis From clumens at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 18:25:07 2006 From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:25:07 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060207 changes In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0602070929j56d8cb7ge6ae9bcbb67c0865@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602070834.k178YGVA017981@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0602070904k535e4eaci5a074f01cbd96c1d@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0602070929j56d8cb7ge6ae9bcbb67c0865@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060207182506.GA7561@exeter.boston.redhat.com> > if ( grubTarget[-2] == 'p' or > (grubTarget[-2].isdigit() and grubTarget[-3] == 'p') ) : > ive added ( and ) and am having the network config first afterwards on > clicking on next seems that anaconda is operational afterwards with > the network config as first screen. Fixed in anaconda CVS. We'll most likely roll out a new package tonight to fix it. Note that this just affects the order of the steps, nothing else. - Chris From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 18:20:14 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:20:14 -0500 Subject: What's up with yum plugin? In-Reply-To: <030b01c62c11$75047390$0a01a8c0@jbsys> References: <030b01c62c11$75047390$0a01a8c0@jbsys> Message-ID: <604aa7910602071020k616d0876m95780f792b4ae25e@mail.gmail.com> On 2/7/06, James C. Bevier wrote: > I have enabled=1 and tokeep=4 in installonlyn.conf file. When yum tries to > install the 4th kernel, it deletes two of the current kernels. That leave > me with two. On the next kernel update, nothing is deleted and I have three > kernels. It seems the plugin code is really confused. Anyone else seeing > this? I see unexpected behavior when the current current is not the latest kernel installed. I keep meaning to dig into the plugin code and see if I can patch it to do a better job of enumeration in the case where running kernel!=lastest installed...but i haven't found a block of time long enough to do a decent job at it. -jef From tmraz at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 18:40:29 2006 From: tmraz at redhat.com (Tomas Mraz) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:40:29 +0100 Subject: system unbootable - libpam.so.0 In-Reply-To: <200602071313.48167.cjones@patriot.net> References: <200602061553.31100.cjones@patriot.net> <200602071313.48167.cjones@patriot.net> Message-ID: <1139337629.8266.9.camel@perun.redhat.usu> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 13:13 -0500, Claude Jones wrote: > On Monday 06 February 2006 3:53 pm, Claude Jones wrote: > > I get failures on cusd, sshd, crond, and atd after today's updates. The > > system gets to hal which reports "OK", and then just stalls. Didn't write > > them down, but the messages in each case refer to libpam.so.0 problems > > No one's responded, so maybe there was too little info. > The boot errors say the following: > error while loading shared libraries: libpam.so.0 cannot open shared object > file: no such or directory > These occur with cupsd, sshd, crond, atd Well it seems that your update went wrong and removed libpam.so.0 somehow. The question is why it happened and I don't know that. Maybe booting to single mode and looking for some logs could help. It should be fixable by manual reinstall of the pam package. -- Tomas Mraz From gsimpson at mountaincable.net Tue Feb 7 18:43:02 2006 From: gsimpson at mountaincable.net (glenn) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:43:02 -0500 Subject: kernels after 1907 do not boot Message-ID: <43E8EA36.3040900@mountaincable.net> I am using an AMD 2000+ based i386 system with FC5 T2 sw. For kernel versions post 1907 version, the host fails to boot past the initiation of udev. The system appears to lock up. The keyboard controller is dead. I have to use 'bus reset button' to force the restart of the boot cycle. If I use grub to boot 1907, or older, kernel I do not have the boot issue. I do not implement LVM because LVM does not provide any advantage to my usage of the system (if this has any impact on my problem). A summary of my host is: CPU AMD 2000+ DDR 1 GB disc WD 80 GB PATA connected. eth0 provides 100 MB LAN services video Nvidia FX 5200 -- Glenn Simpson From pnasrat at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 18:45:12 2006 From: pnasrat at redhat.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:45:12 -0500 Subject: Development Boot image =?iso-8859-1?q?doesn=B4t?= working on ppc In-Reply-To: <20060207112643.D47F4246CF@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> References: <20060207112643.D47F4246CF@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> Message-ID: <1139337913.3051.4.camel@enki.eridu> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 09:18 -0300, Jos? Carlos Bilhega Jr. wrote: > Hi all, > > * Hardware : IBM eServer pSeries 620 Model 6F1 > PowerPC 64bits > 5 SCSI disks > 3 MB RAM > > I burned a CD with the boot image (development/ppc) and during a > install ( linux text ), this message occurs when loading the driver > sym53c8xx: > > > Loader received SIGSEGV. Backtrace: > > [0x10000d68] > [0x100374] > [0x10026798] > [0x100238e4] > [0x1000626e] > [0x10007228] > [0x10011258] > [0x10002524] > [0x1009ee30] > [0x1009efb0] Yes I'm seeing this here too on a POWER III machine. Can you file a bug and I'll look into. Paul From michal at harddata.com Tue Feb 7 18:49:57 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 11:49:57 -0700 Subject: system unbootable - libpam.so.0 In-Reply-To: <200602071313.48167.cjones@patriot.net> References: <200602061553.31100.cjones@patriot.net> <200602071313.48167.cjones@patriot.net> Message-ID: <20060207184957.GA2259@mail.harddata.com> On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 01:13:47PM -0500, Claude Jones wrote: > > No one's responded, so maybe there was too little info. > The boot errors say the following: > error while loading shared libraries: libpam.so.0 cannot open shared object > file: no such or directory libpam.so.0 will be a symlink to libpam.so. and that library is a part of your 'pam' package. Either you have problems with this one or a link is missing. In the later case rerunning ldconfig most likely should be enough. > entering the username > returns another query for the username Not unexpected as pam is clearly messed up. > The machine is unbootable - does anyone have a suggestion given the above > addtional info? You surely can boot into a level 1 (single-user mode). This should not use pam at all. Then you can fix it. Even bringing a network up, if you need fresh copies of some packages, should be possible. In the worst case you can boot "rescue" from CD and use that to straighten things. Michal From pnasrat at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 18:57:14 2006 From: pnasrat at redhat.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:57:14 -0500 Subject: Development Boot image =?iso-8859-1?q?doesn=B4t?= working on ppc In-Reply-To: <1139337913.3051.4.camel@enki.eridu> References: <20060207112643.D47F4246CF@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> <1139337913.3051.4.camel@enki.eridu> Message-ID: <1139338634.3051.6.camel@enki.eridu> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 13:45 -0500, Paul Nasrat wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 09:18 -0300, Jos? Carlos Bilhega Jr. wrote: > > Yes I'm seeing this here too on a POWER III machine. Can you file a bug > and I'll look into. Filed as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=180378 Paul From cjones at patriot.net Tue Feb 7 18:59:09 2006 From: cjones at patriot.net (Claude Jones) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:59:09 -0500 Subject: system unbootable - libpam.so.0 In-Reply-To: <20060207184957.GA2259@mail.harddata.com> References: <200602061553.31100.cjones@patriot.net> <200602071313.48167.cjones@patriot.net> <20060207184957.GA2259@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <200602071359.09816.cjones@patriot.net> On Tuesday 07 February 2006 1:49 pm, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > You surely can boot into a level 1 (single-user mode). ?This should > not use pam at all. ?Then you can fix it. ?Even bringing a network > up, if you need fresh copies of some packages, should be possible. > > In the worst case you can boot "rescue" from CD and use that to > straighten things. > > ? ?Michal Thanks to you and Tomas. Hadn't thought of using level 1. That did the trick. Also didn't know about using yum in single-user mode. Reinstalling libpam did the trick. The machine is back up... -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA From overholt at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 19:02:47 2006 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:02:47 -0500 Subject: Eclipse and FTP/Webdav In-Reply-To: <1139333118.5524.7.camel@localhost> References: <1139333118.5524.7.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20060207190247.GD21838@redhat.com> Hi, * tatxe [2006-02-07 12:25]: > > Unable to create view: Plug-in org.eclipse.team.webdav was unable to > load class org.eclipse.team.internal.ui.target.SiteExplorerView. > > I'ts normal?, I mean, Eclipse for fedora doesn't work this plugin?. It's > quite important to me because the only way that I have to sync with my > websites is via FTP. I haven't tried this plugin. Can you open a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com? Add steps to reproduce and we can track it there. Thanks, Andrew From overholt at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 19:03:59 2006 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:03:59 -0500 Subject: elipse doesn't start (not related to thread issue) In-Reply-To: <20060206170937.GC31402@redhat.com> References: <20060206170937.GC31402@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060207190358.GE21838@redhat.com> * Andrew Overholt [2006-02-06 12:09]: > * Neal Becker [2006-02-06 11:16]: > > After updating today, I get this when trying to start eclipse: > > Yeah, it's something to do with the launcher patch we're applying not > actually being used in the built launcher that's included. I think I've > figured it out and hopefully it will be fixed in tomorrow's push. It's fixed for me with today's rawhide (3.1.2-1jpp_4fc). Does it work for you? Andrew From jreiser at BitWagon.com Tue Feb 7 19:07:32 2006 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 11:07:32 -0800 Subject: kernels after 1907 do not boot In-Reply-To: <43E8EA36.3040900@mountaincable.net> References: <43E8EA36.3040900@mountaincable.net> Message-ID: <43E8EFF4.40208@BitWagon.com> > I am using an AMD 2000+ based i386 system with FC5 T2 sw. > > For kernel versions post 1907 version, the host fails to boot past the > initiation of udev. The system appears to lock up. The keyboard > controller is dead. I have to use 'bus reset button' to force the > restart of the boot cycle. Some of those symptoms are quite similar to these: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179601 where an Athlon Plain 1.1Ghz with Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 730 chipset hangs in udev, specifically the enumeration of USB controllers using the /sys descriptions of system topology. -- From jim at jbsys.com Tue Feb 7 19:20:44 2006 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 12:20:44 -0700 Subject: What's up with yum plugin? References: <030b01c62c11$75047390$0a01a8c0@jbsys> <604aa7910602071020k616d0876m95780f792b4ae25e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004301c62c1b$97a2b600$0a01a8c0@jbsys> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Spaleta" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:20 AM Subject: Re: What's up with yum plugin? > On 2/7/06, James C. Bevier wrote: >> I have enabled=1 and tokeep=4 in installonlyn.conf file. When yum tries >> to >> install the 4th kernel, it deletes two of the current kernels. That >> leave >> me with two. On the next kernel update, nothing is deleted and I have >> three >> kernels. It seems the plugin code is really confused. Anyone else >> seeing >> this? > > I see unexpected behavior when the current current is not the latest > kernel installed. I keep meaning to dig into the plugin code and see > if I can patch it to do a better job of enumeration in the case where > running kernel!=lastest installed...but i haven't found a block of > time long enough to do a decent job at it. > > -jef > When you find that block of time, could you also fix yumdownloader. It just aborts now. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179370 > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From tatxe at tatxe.org Tue Feb 7 19:21:39 2006 From: tatxe at tatxe.org (tatxe) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:21:39 +0100 Subject: Eclipse and FTP/Webdav In-Reply-To: <20060207190247.GD21838@redhat.com> References: <1139333118.5524.7.camel@localhost> <20060207190247.GD21838@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139340099.5524.14.camel@localhost> El mar, 07--2006 a las 14:02 -0500, Andrew Overholt escribi?: > I haven't tried this plugin. Can you open a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com? > Add steps to reproduce and we can track it there. Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=180387 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Robert McBroom Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: ICH2: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:1f.1 Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: ICH2: chipset revision 18 Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: ICH2: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hda: WDC WD800BB-75FJA1, ATA DISK drive Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hdb: WDC WD800BB-75CAA0, ATA DISK drive Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hdc: SONY CD-RW CRX300E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hda: max request size: 128KiB Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hda: 156250000 sectors (80000 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hda: cache flushes supported Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 > Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hdb: max request size: 128KiB Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hdb: Host Protected Area detected. Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: current capacity is 156250000 sectors (80000 MB) Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: native capacity is 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hdb: Host Protected Area disabled. Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hdb: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hdb: cache flushes notsupported Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 hdb4 < hdb5 hdb6 hdb7 hdb8 hdb9 hdb10 hdb11 hdb12 hdb13 hdb14 hdb15 > Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:0a.0[A] -> Link [LNKG] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9 Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 7.0 Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: aic7870: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: Vendor: SEAGATE Model: ST12550N Rev: 0014 Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: scsi0:A:2:0: Tagged Queuing enabled. Depth 4 Feb 7 12:54:39 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:2: Beginning Domain Validation Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:2: FAST-10 SCSI 10.0 MB/s ST (100 ns, offset 15) Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:2: Domain Validation skipping write tests Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:2: Ending Domain Validation Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: SCSI device sda: 4178874 512-byte hdwr sectors (2140 MB) Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write through w/ FUA Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: SCSI device sda: 4178874 512-byte hdwr sectors (2140 MB) Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write through w/ FUA Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: sda: sda1 Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: sd 0:0:2:0: Attached scsi disk sda Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: Vendor: PLEXTOR Model: CD-ROM PX-4XCS Rev: 1.01 Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:3: Beginning Domain Validation Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:3: FAST-5 SCSI 4.0 MB/s ST (248 ns, offset 15) Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:3: Domain Validation skipping write tests Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:3: Ending Domain Validation Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: Vendor: PLEXTOR Model: CD-ROM PX-4XCS Rev: 1.01 Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:5: Beginning Domain Validation Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:5: FAST-5 SCSI 4.0 MB/s ST (248 ns, offset 15) Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:5: Domain Validation skipping write tests Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:5: Ending Domain Validation Feb 7 12:54:40 mcbroomrc kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds Feb 7 12:56:12 mcbroomrc kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev sr0, type iso9660), uses genfs_contexts Feb 7 12:56:12 mcbroomrc kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev sr1, type iso9660), uses genfs_contexts Feb 7 12:56:30 mcbroomrc kernel: p8023: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel. Feb 7 12:56:30 mcbroomrc kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 4 Feb 7 12:56:30 mcbroomrc kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 5 Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: (scsi0:A:5:0): No or incomplete CDB sent to device. Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: scsi0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 1 SCBs aborted Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:5: FAST-5 SCSI 4.0 MB/s ST (248 ns, offset 15) Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: (scsi0:A:5:0): No or incomplete CDB sent to device. Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: scsi0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 1 SCBs aborted Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: (scsi0:A:5:0): No or incomplete CDB sent to device. Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: scsi0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs aborted Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: (scsi0:A:5:0): No or incomplete CDB sent to device. Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: scsi0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs aborted Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: target0:0:3: FAST-5 SCSI 4.0 MB/s ST (248 ns, offset 15) Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: (scsi0:A:5:0): No or incomplete CDB sent to device. Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: scsi0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs aborted Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: (scsi0:A:5:0): No or incomplete CDB sent to device. Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: scsi0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs aborted Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: (scsi0:A:5:0): No or incomplete CDB sent to device. Feb 7 12:56:38 mcbroomrc kernel: scsi0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs aborted Feb 7 12:56:39 mcbroomrc kernel: (scsi0:A:5:0): No or incomplete CDB sent to device. Robert McBroom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgleahy at golden.net Tue Feb 7 20:02:30 2006 From: mgleahy at golden.net (Mike Leahy) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:02:30 -0500 Subject: Question regarding bcm43xx driver in FC5 kernels... Message-ID: <43E8FCD6.6030101@golden.net> Hello List, I've been discussing some problems I have with the bcm43xx drivers (for wireless cards based on the Broadcom 43xx chipsets) on their users list (bcm43xx-dev at lists.berlios.de). As you can see from the response to my latest message below, it appears that the bcm43xx driver being released with the kernels is not up-to-date. I have only been able to get my wireless card working in FC5 by manually deleting the bcm43xx module from the kernel, then (re)installing ndiswrapper. As the bcm43xx is included with every FC5 kernel update, I have to do this procedure pretty frequently, since I'm generally keeping up with the development updates. Larry Finger's reply below suggests that maybe if the latest bcm43xx source were used, this wouldn't be an issue. Is this something that will likely be taken care of in the near future? I think it wouldn't be a bad thing if this was updated, as there are plenty of people out there with bcm43xx wireless cards on laptops. If it works out of the box, then I imagine it will be much easier for laptop users that are dependant on wireless capability (e.g., myself) to start using FC5 when it is finally released. I did try to compile the driver myself from the latest source, but the combination of my lack of experience with the need to reboot into Windows in order to search/discuss issues lead me to give up on it after a couple days. Mike Larry Finger wrote: > Mike, > > Mike Leahy wrote: >> >> Michael: WRT what was going wrong, all I can say is that the driver >> appeared to load (e.g., I could get wireless info from the card using >> iwconfig when the bcm43xx driver was loaded), but any time I tried to >> modify the wireless card's configuration with iwconfig or scan with >> iwlist, I would get a message saying the functionality wasn't supported >> for that card. Maybe somebody can suggest what I should look for, so >> that when I get the next kernel update I can try again and give more >> in-depth info. >> >> Thanks again, >> Mike > > I wonder where Fedora is getting their source. The iwconfig errors you > report were fixed about a month ago. On my system, WPA started working > on Jan. 12 and that didn't work until most of the IOCTL links used by > iwconfig were working. > > As you are obviously in the FC test program, could you inquire where > they are downloading softmac and bcm43xx code? > > Larry > From davej at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 20:29:58 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 15:29:58 -0500 Subject: Question regarding bcm43xx driver in FC5 kernels... In-Reply-To: <43E8FCD6.6030101@golden.net> References: <43E8FCD6.6030101@golden.net> Message-ID: <20060207202958.GE24775@redhat.com> On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 03:02:30PM -0500, Mike Leahy wrote: > Hello List, > > I've been discussing some problems I have with the bcm43xx drivers (for > wireless cards based on the Broadcom 43xx chipsets) on their users list > (bcm43xx-dev at lists.berlios.de). As you can see from the response to my > latest message below, it appears that the bcm43xx driver being released > with the kernels is not up-to-date. I have only been able to get my > wireless card working in FC5 by manually deleting the bcm43xx module > from the kernel, then (re)installing ndiswrapper. As the bcm43xx is > included with every FC5 kernel update, I have to do this procedure > pretty frequently, since I'm generally keeping up with the development > updates. You didn't mention which kernel you were running. There was an update yesterday which should bring us up to date again. It's lagged a little over the last few weeks whilst Dave Woodhouse (who has been taking care of syncing this with upstream) was attending LCA. ah the joys of out-of-tree drivers. Dave From dcbw at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 20:32:35 2006 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:32:35 -0500 Subject: Question regarding bcm43xx driver in FC5 kernels... In-Reply-To: <43E8FCD6.6030101@golden.net> References: <43E8FCD6.6030101@golden.net> Message-ID: <1139344355.14238.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 15:02 -0500, Mike Leahy wrote: > Hello List, > > I've been discussing some problems I have with the bcm43xx drivers (for > wireless cards based on the Broadcom 43xx chipsets) on their users list > (bcm43xx-dev at lists.berlios.de). As you can see from the response to my > latest message below, it appears that the bcm43xx driver being released > with the kernels is not up-to-date. I have only been able to get my > wireless card working in FC5 by manually deleting the bcm43xx module > from the kernel, then (re)installing ndiswrapper. As the bcm43xx is > included with every FC5 kernel update, I have to do this procedure > pretty frequently, since I'm generally keeping up with the development > updates. > > Larry Finger's reply below suggests that maybe if the latest bcm43xx > source were used, this wouldn't be an issue. Is this something that > will likely be taken care of in the near future? I think it wouldn't be > a bad thing if this was updated, as there are plenty of people out there > with bcm43xx wireless cards on laptops. If it works out of the box, then > I imagine it will be much easier for laptop users that are dependant on > wireless capability (e.g., myself) to start using FC5 when it is finally > released. I did try to compile the driver myself from the latest source, > but the combination of my lack of experience with the need to reboot > into Windows in order to search/discuss issues lead me to give up on it > after a couple days. It appears to be an SVN pull from svn://svn.berlios.de/bcm43xx/trunk/driver on Jan 14th. 3 1/2 weeks old. And the softmac code appears to be a git pull from around Jan 13th. Dan From katzj at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 20:46:08 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:46:08 -0500 Subject: Updated Xen install instructions Message-ID: <1139345169.2907.18.camel@bree.local.net> I sent mail about this to the Fedora Xen list[1] a little while ago, but there are updated instructions on how to take advantage of Xen in FC5 test2 and later available on the wiki at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraXenQuickstartFC5. This will walk you through getting the right packages installed for your host as well as using the nice things now available for doing guest installs via anaconda. Coming soon to that location is some instructions on using the support in Xen for fully virtualized guests given appropriate hardware support. The xenguest-install script in the package I'm building right now (and will be available in rawhide tomorrow) will have this support, I just need to have a little bit of time to write up how to use it. :) Jeremy [1] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-xen -- if you're interested in Xen on Fedora, I highly recommend subscribing. From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 7 21:08:38 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:08:38 -0600 Subject: Intel Wireless 2200BG recognized as Non wireless card Message-ID: <43E90C56.8060201@fedoraproject.org> I've got an Intel Wireless 2200BG card thats being displayed as a wired ethernet card in the Hardware section of system-config-network-gui. Any ideas? -Mike From twaugh at redhat.com Tue Feb 7 22:50:18 2006 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 22:50:18 +0000 Subject: Any ETA for gimp-print 5.0.0 in Rawhide? In-Reply-To: <1139336421.2967.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060207100027.GH16000@redhat.com> <1139336421.2967.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20060207225018.GO16000@redhat.com> On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 07:20:21PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Can gutenprint be installed in parallel with gimp-print? Then we could > (and should) add it to Fedora Extras 5 after the final version of > gutenprint is released. The short answer is I don't know. Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This will walk > you through getting the right packages installed for your host as well > as using the nice things now available for doing guest installs via > anaconda. > > Coming soon to that location is some instructions on using the support > in Xen for fully virtualized guests given appropriate hardware support. > The xenguest-install script in the package I'm building right now (and > will be available in rawhide tomorrow) will have this support, I just > need to have a little bit of time to write up how to use it. :) > > Jeremy > > [1] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-xen -- if you're > interested in Xen on Fedora, I highly recommend subscribing. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Looks good, I'll give it a go some time this week and give some feedback. How does the x86_64 support for Test 3 coming? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick at wudika.de Wed Feb 8 05:43:58 2006 From: patrick at wudika.de (Patrick von der Hagen) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 00:43:58 -0500 Subject: strange problem with self-compiled software on FC 5 T2... In-Reply-To: <43E81F15.5060106@redhat.com> References: <43E81134.6010703@wudika.de> <43E7C84C.3090700@BitWagon.com> <43E82F7A.9060204@wudika.de> <43E81F15.5060106@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E9851E.90006@wudika.de> Ulrich Drepper wrote: > Patrick von der Hagen wrote: >> Now, whom should I contact? glibc, gnu-c or gnu-c++? > > Nobody but the person who wrote that code. You pass a pointer to a > 'char' variable for the %s format element. Even *if* you only read one > character the terminating NUL byte will overwrite the next byte. That's > likely your variable 'j'. It's really amazing how many people missed that one and that several compilers (e.g. gnu-gcc/g++ 3.5) produced binaries that worked flawlessly. But you are right, "c" was placed next to "j" in memory, so j has been damaged by invocing fscanf. Fixing the format-string solved my problems. Sorry for all that noise. -- CU, Patrick. From alan at clueserver.org Wed Feb 8 00:01:26 2006 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 16:01:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: CDs mount to volume name Message-ID: The gnome-volume-manager now mounts cds to "/media/{volume_name}", instead of "/media/cdrecorder". This is a problem. It means that any program that looks for a consistant mount point will not find it. gtkalog fails. Multi-disc installers will most likely fail. Is there a way to disable this behaviour? Is there a recommended method to locate the cd mount point that I am not aware of? Is there a way to kludge things so that legacy software and installers will not fail? Is there a way you can make up your fscking minds about mount points? -- "George W. Bush -- Bringing back the Sixties one Nixon at a time." From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Wed Feb 8 00:06:04 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:06:04 +0800 Subject: strange problem with self-compiled software on FC 5 T2... In-Reply-To: <43E9851E.90006@wudika.de> References: <43E81134.6010703@wudika.de> <43E7C84C.3090700@BitWagon.com> <43E82F7A.9060204@wudika.de> <43E81F15.5060106@redhat.com> <43E9851E.90006@wudika.de> Message-ID: <43E935EC.5080900@herakles.homelinux.org> Patrick von der Hagen wrote: > Ulrich Drepper wrote: > >> Patrick von der Hagen wrote: >> >>> Now, whom should I contact? glibc, gnu-c or gnu-c++? >> >> >> Nobody but the person who wrote that code. You pass a pointer to a >> 'char' variable for the %s format element. Even *if* you only read one >> character the terminating NUL byte will overwrite the next byte. That's >> likely your variable 'j'. > > It's really amazing how many people missed that one and that several > compilers (e.g. gnu-gcc/g++ 3.5) produced binaries that worked > flawlessly. But you are right, "c" was placed next to "j" in memory, so > j has been damaged by invocing fscanf. Fixing the format-string solved > my problems. > > Sorry for all that noise. I was suspicious, but my understanding of C is pretty limited (and will stay that way; I reckon I know enough to know its failings). Depending on the compiler, different optimisations could also hide/reveal the problem. It might be possible for the compiler to do better consistency checking, but that won't help where the format string is created at run-time. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From stanfinley at comcast.net Wed Feb 8 00:08:58 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 17:08:58 -0700 Subject: Question regarding bcm43xx driver in FC5 kernels... In-Reply-To: <43E8FCD6.6030101@golden.net> References: <43E8FCD6.6030101@golden.net> Message-ID: <1139357338.3563.8.camel@stantonfinley.org> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 15:02 -0500, Mike Leahy wrote: > Hello List, > > I've been discussing some problems I have with the bcm43xx drivers (for > wireless cards based on the Broadcom 43xx chipsets) on their users list > (bcm43xx-dev at lists.berlios.de). As you can see from the response to my > latest message below, it appears that the bcm43xx driver being released > with the kernels is not up-to-date. I have only been able to get my > wireless card working in FC5 by manually deleting the bcm43xx module > from the kernel, then (re)installing ndiswrapper. As the bcm43xx is > included with every FC5 kernel update, I have to do this procedure > pretty frequently, since I'm generally keeping up with the development > updates. > > Larry Finger's reply below suggests that maybe if the latest bcm43xx > source were used, this wouldn't be an issue. Is this something that > will likely be taken care of in the near future? I think it wouldn't be > a bad thing if this was updated, as there are plenty of people out there > with bcm43xx wireless cards on laptops. If it works out of the box, then > I imagine it will be much easier for laptop users that are dependant on > wireless capability (e.g., myself) to start using FC5 when it is finally > released. I did try to compile the driver myself from the latest source, > but the combination of my lack of experience with the need to reboot > into Windows in order to search/discuss issues lead me to give up on it > after a couple days. > > Mike > > Larry Finger wrote: > > Mike, > > > > Mike Leahy wrote: > >> > >> Michael: WRT what was going wrong, all I can say is that the driver > >> appeared to load (e.g., I could get wireless info from the card using > >> iwconfig when the bcm43xx driver was loaded), but any time I tried to > >> modify the wireless card's configuration with iwconfig or scan with > >> iwlist, I would get a message saying the functionality wasn't supported > >> for that card. Maybe somebody can suggest what I should look for, so > >> that when I get the next kernel update I can try again and give more > >> in-depth info. > >> > >> Thanks again, > >> Mike > > > > I wonder where Fedora is getting their source. The iwconfig errors you > > report were fixed about a month ago. On my system, WPA started working > > on Jan. 12 and that didn't work until most of the IOCTL links used by > > iwconfig were working. > > > > As you are obviously in the FC test program, could you inquire where > > they are downloading softmac and bcm43xx code? > > > > Larry > > > Here is a thread that is related to this issue and may or may not help you to manually enable your bcm43xx driver: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00019.html Works for me. Also a related bug filing: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179538 I too hope to see the latest bcm43xx driver source incorporated as soon as possible. Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Wed Feb 8 00:36:06 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:36:06 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43E93CF6.8030209@herakles.homelinux.org> alan wrote: > The gnome-volume-manager now mounts cds to "/media/{volume_name}", instead > of "/media/cdrecorder". It happens, I think, with all filesystems on all mountable devices, and I think it's not actually gnome-volume-manager but something in hotplug or one of its allies. Happens on SUSE 10 too. For me, the entire idea of autmounting things is broken. For example 1. I insert a CD-RW to reuse. Do I want it mounted? 2. I plug in a USB2 drive. Do I want its five or ten partitions mounted? Probably not, more likely one. 3. I'm working at a virtual console (I have twelve defind, sometimes use more, and also use screen). Do I want anything mounted and opened at the desktop? Probably not. Working through a stack of CDs is a pain. I used to do things like this: mount /mnt/cdrom && ls -l /mnt/cdrom; eject /mnt/cdrom Hint: read the instructions for preparing for a network install of FC & RHEL. Now the wretched things are likely to get opened on the desktop. Worse, I've had ISOs get opened when mounted too. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From dfordham at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 01:08:55 2006 From: dfordham at gmail.com (Doug Fordham) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:08:55 -0500 Subject: /sys/bus/usb/devices vs. /proc/bus/usb/devices .... In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602070650s54f2112coa7c6b38d552607fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c4ba1530602061033i5cbc9a72y10c3d29a97231969@mail.gmail.com> <20060206184514.GA24785@sventech.com> <4c4ba1530602061105o1d732111n7138f444cccbc6a6@mail.gmail.com> <43E8277A.6060405@gmail.com> <4c4ba1530602070650s54f2112coa7c6b38d552607fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E944A7.2010306@gmail.com> ...no, I think I misunderstood your first post. You're running VMWare _on_ Rawhide whereas my reference was to Rawhide running as a virt. machine inside a host. The tests that I posted were done on a rawhide virt. machine running on a WINXP host; I also tested a virt. rawhide system running on a Debian host (2.6 kernel) with the same results. Thanks for taking the time to clear this up. Doug Tom London wrote: > Hmm, I may have misunderstood the response. > > The problem I am having is that 'without a usbfs mount' vmware no > longer recoginzes and supports USB devices on my system (e.g., USB > printer, USB thumb drive, etc.). > > Prior to this change, vmware would allow me to setup the virt.machine > to connect to such. > > USB support in gnome or in the linux 'host' machine was not broken. > > tom > > From katzj at redhat.com Wed Feb 8 01:38:52 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:38:52 -0500 Subject: Updated Xen install instructions In-Reply-To: References: <1139345169.2907.18.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1139362732.2907.61.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 17:39 -0600, Justin Conover wrote: > Looks good, I'll give it a go some time this week and give some > feedback. How does the x86_64 support for Test 3 coming? Fingers crossed :) sct and cdub have been making some good progress, so hopefully the packages will be able to land in the next day or so Jeremy From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 05:13:04 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 00:13:04 -0500 Subject: Need help intepreting uevent trigger errors associated with my usb 4-port hub peripheral Message-ID: <604aa7910602072113t32a206f6q5053dcc61b0c9b7a@mail.gmail.com> I have a belkin 4-port usb hub which works fine when connected to an fc4 box and use to work fine on this rawhide box but recently it stopped working and I'm trying to figure out why. I'm getting multipathd: uevent trigger error in /var/log/messages but i don't know what they mean. Anyone care to give a remedial lecture on uevent trigger messages? -jef Here is what I see when i plug in the hub: Feb 8 00:07:34 goober kernel: usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4 Feb 8 00:07:34 goober kernel: usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 8 00:07:34 goober multipathd: uevent trigger error Feb 8 00:07:34 goober kernel: hub 2-3:1.0: USB hub found Feb 8 00:07:34 goober multipathd: uevent trigger error Feb 8 00:07:34 goober kernel: hub 2-3:1.0: 4 ports detected Feb 8 00:07:34 goober multipathd: uevent trigger error when i plug a device into the hub: Feb 8 00:08:52 goober kernel: usb 2-3.1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 7 Feb 8 00:08:52 goober kernel: usb 2-3.1: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub Feb 8 00:08:52 goober multipathd: uevent trigger error Feb 8 00:08:52 goober kernel: usb 2-3.1: no configuration chosen from 1 choice Feb 8 00:08:52 goober multipathd: uevent trigger error From miles.lane at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 06:42:03 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 01:42:03 -0500 Subject: No text rendered by Flash plugin in Firefox (Rawhide) Message-ID: Hello, I have tried the Macromedia tar.gz installation package and the RPM package. They both get Flash to display, but no text is getting rendered. I found web pages that indicate that old versions of the Flash plugin needed additional fonts to work. However, the information pertaining to the current release seems to not need these fonts (urw-fonts and ttfonts). Anyhow, I have urw-fonts installed from yum. Any idea how I can fix this? Thanks! Miles From alan at clueserver.org Wed Feb 8 07:05:34 2006 From: alan at clueserver.org (Alan) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 23:05:34 -0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <43E93CF6.8030209@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <43E93CF6.8030209@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <1139382334.16485.4.camel@zowie.fnordora.org> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 08:36 +0800, John Summerfied wrote: > alan wrote: > > The gnome-volume-manager now mounts cds to "/media/{volume_name}", instead > > of "/media/cdrecorder". > > It happens, I think, with all filesystems on all mountable devices, and > I think it's not actually gnome-volume-manager but something in hotplug > or one of its allies. Happens on SUSE 10 too. > > For me, the entire idea of autmounting things is broken. For example > 1. I insert a CD-RW to reuse. Do I want it mounted? > 2. I plug in a USB2 drive. Do I want its five or ten partitions mounted? > Probably not, more likely one. > 3. I'm working at a virtual console (I have twelve defind, sometimes use > more, and also use screen). Do I want anything mounted and opened at the > desktop? Probably not. Working through a stack of CDs is a pain. I used > to do things like this: > mount /mnt/cdrom && ls -l /mnt/cdrom; eject /mnt/cdrom > > Hint: read the instructions for preparing for a network install of FC & > RHEL. > > Now the wretched things are likely to get opened on the desktop. Worse, > I've had ISOs get opened when mounted too. Yeah, but at least they got mounted to a consistent place. Now they get mounted to the name of the volume. What happens when you have multiple volumes of the same name? What happens when you have older installers that expect something like /mnt/cdrom or /media/cdrecorder for each of many discs. This is going to cause a lot of grief. From buildsys at redhat.com Wed Feb 8 08:40:41 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 03:40:41 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060208 changes Message-ID: <200602080840.k188efVd027329@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: MAKEDEV-3.21-2 -------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai 3.21-2 - rebuild a2ps-4.13b-48.2.2 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.13b-48.2.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes acl-2.2.34-1.1 -------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.2.34-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes acpid-1.0.4-1.2 --------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.4-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes adjtimex-1.20-1.2 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.20-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes agg-2.3-1.1 ----------- alchemist-1.0.36-1.2 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.36-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes alsa-lib-1.0.11-3.rc2.1 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 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apply patch to fix buffer overflow in kpdf, CVE-2006-0301 (#179425) - apply patch to fix gcc warning (#169189) kernel-2.6.15-1.1915_FC5 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc2-git3 * Mon Feb 06 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc2-git2 * Mon Feb 06 2006 David Woodhouse - Update to current softmac/bcm43xx code. kernel-xen-2.6.15-1.43_FC5 -------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Juan Quintela - fix xen to compile with gcc-4.1. - disable PAE build. - enable debug hypervisor options. * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Mon Feb 06 2006 Juan Quintela - merge with rawhide 1.1914. libidn-0.6.2-1 -------------- libselinux-1.29.7-1.1 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.29.7-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Jan 20 2006 Dan Walsh 1.29.7-1 - Upgrade to latest from NSA * Merged install-pywrap Makefile patch from Joshua Brindle. libsemanage-1.5.21-1 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 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Harris 6.4.2-2 - Added new "glx-utils" subpackage with glxgears and glxinfo (#173510) - Added mesa-6.4.2-dprintf-to-debugprintf-for-bug180122.patch to workaround a Mesa namespace conflict with GNU_SOURCE (#180122) - Added mesa-6.4.2-xorg-server-uses-bad-datatypes-breaking-AMD64-fdo5835.patch as an attempt to fix bugs (#176976,176414,fdo#5835) - Enabled inclusion of the *EXPERIMENTAL UNSUPPORTED* r300 DRI driver on x86, x86_64, and ppc architectures, however the 2D Radeon driver will soon be modified to require the user to manually turn experimental DRI support on with Option "dri" in xorg.conf to test it out and report all X bugs that occur while using it directly to X.Org bugzilla. (#179712) - Use "libOSMesa.so.6.4.0604*" glob in file manifest, to avoid having to update it each upstream release. * Sat Feb 04 2006 Mike A. Harris 6.4.2-1 - Updated to Mesa 6.4.2 - Use "libGLU.so.1.3.0604*" glob in file manifest, to avoid having to update it each upstream release. pam_krb5-2.2.6-1 ---------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai - 2.2.6-1 - add a "krb4_use_as_req" option so that obtaining v4 creds kinit-style can be disabled completely (Hugo Meiland) policycoreutils-1.29.20-1 ------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Dan Walsh 1.29.20-1 - Update from upstream * Merged seuser/user_extra support patch to semodule_package from Joshua Brindle. * Merged getopt type fix for semodule_link/expand and sestatus from Chris PeBenito. - Fix genhomedircon output * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.29.18-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes redhat-menus-6.6.4-1 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Ray Strode - 6.6.4-1 - use gnome icon names for "-Other" menu files * Sun Feb 05 2006 Matthias Clasen - 6.5.4-3 - Add missing requires selinux-doc-1.25.2-1 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Dan Walsh 1.25.2-1 - Update to NSA Release version * Updated module report for removal of magic number fields from security structures (in 2.6.16). sysreport-1.4.3-2 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Than Ngo 1.4.3-2 - fix broken date string system-config-kickstart-2.6.5-1 ------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Chris Lumens 2.6.5-1 - Smarter repo-enabling code (#180097). system-config-lvm-1.0.12-1.0 ---------------------------- * Mon Feb 06 2006 Stanko Kupcevic 1.0.12-1.0 - Under certain conditions, labels might show partially system-config-soundcard-1.2.16-1 -------------------------------- * Wed Feb 01 2006 Martin Stransky 1.2.16-1 - volume control, new look, music (#178124) tix-1:8.4.0-2 ------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 David Cantrell - 1:8.4.0-2 - Better use of macros in the install and files sections * Mon Feb 06 2006 David Cantrell - 1:8.4.0-1 - Upgraded to tix-8.4.0 udev-084-1 ---------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Harald Hoyer - 084-1 - version 084 vixie-cron-4:4.1-51.FC5 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4.1-51.FC5 - fix bug 180145: provide support for mail in non-ascii charsets xen-3.0-0.20060130.fc5.6 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jeremy Katz - 3.0-0.20060130.fc5.6 - add a hack to fix VMX guests with video to balloon enough (#180375) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jeremy Katz - 3.0-0.20060130.fc5.5 - fix build for new udev * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jeremy Katz - 3.0-0.20060130.fc5.4 - patch from David Lutterkort to pass macaddr (-m) to xenguest-install - rework xenguest-install a bit so that it can be used for creating fully-virtualized guests as well as paravirt. Run with --help for more details (or follow the prompts) - add more docs (noticed by Andrew Puch) xmltex-20020625-7 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Tim Waugh 20020625-7 - Fix xmltex symlink (-> latex) (bug #168728). xorg-x11-server-1.0.1-5 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-5 - Updated "BuildRequires: mesa-source >= 6.4.2-2" to get fix for (#176976) * Mon Feb 06 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-4 - Fix brown paper bag error introduced in rpm post script in 1.0.1-4. * Mon Feb 06 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-3 - Added xorg-x11-server-1.0.1-composite-fastpath-fdo4320.patch with changes suggested by ajax to fix (fdo#4320). - Cosmetic cleanups to satiate the banshees. Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 tkinter - 2.4.2-3.i386 requires libtix8.1.8.4.so Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs tkinter - 2.4.2-3.ia64 requires libtix8.1.8.4.so()(64bit) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- ccs-devel - 1.0.2-3.2.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.2-3.2 gulm - 1.0.4-2.FC5.1.ppc requires ccs tkinter - 2.4.2-3.ppc requires libtix8.1.8.4.so Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 tkinter - 2.4.2-3.ppc64 requires libtix8.1.8.4.so()(64bit) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 tkinter - 2.4.2-3.s390 requires libtix8.1.8.4.so Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjava-2.8.so()(64bit) libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjni-2.8.so()(64bit) systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390x requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 tkinter - 2.4.2-3.s390x requires libtix8.1.8.4.so()(64bit) Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 tkinter - 2.4.2-3.x86_64 requires libtix8.1.8.4.so()(64bit) From tmraz at redhat.com Wed Feb 8 09:30:55 2006 From: tmraz at redhat.com (Tomas Mraz) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 10:30:55 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 16:01 -0800, alan wrote: > The gnome-volume-manager now mounts cds to "/media/{volume_name}", instead > of "/media/cdrecorder". > > This is a problem. It means that any program that looks for a consistant > mount point will not find it. gtkalog fails. Multi-disc installers will > most likely fail. +1 > Is there a way to disable this behaviour? Please someone tell me that there is! > Is there a recommended method to locate the cd mount point that I am not > aware of? > > Is there a way to kludge things so that legacy software and installers > will not fail? > > Is there a way you can make up your fscking minds about mount points? > Who made this decision so I can personally flame him to death? ;) -- Tomas Mraz From kfischer at bfki.net Wed Feb 8 09:49:05 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 10:49:05 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> Message-ID: <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 10:30 +0100 schrieb Tomas Mraz: > On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 16:01 -0800, alan wrote: > > The gnome-volume-manager now mounts cds to "/media/{volume_name}", instead > > of "/media/cdrecorder". > > > > This is a problem. It means that any program that looks for a consistant > > mount point will not find it. gtkalog fails. Multi-disc installers will > > most likely fail. > +1 > > > Is there a way to disable this behaviour? > Please someone tell me that there is! > > > Is there a recommended method to locate the cd mount point that I am not > > aware of? > > > > Is there a way to kludge things so that legacy software and installers > > will not fail? > > > > Is there a way you can make up your fscking minds about mount points? > > > Who made this decision so I can personally flame him to death? > ;) > -- > Tomas Mraz > Why should you? I am pretty comfortable with that right now; but then I also use a Mac, where this kind of mounting seems to be quite normal and does not cause trouble. Anyway, a mount with the name like "Doom 4 for Linux Disk 2 of 2" sounds much more descriptive than "cdrom", now does it? ;) Karsten Fischer From gbofspam at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 10:00:55 2006 From: gbofspam at gmail.com (gb spam) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 05:00:55 -0500 Subject: Updated Xen install instructions In-Reply-To: <1139345169.2907.18.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1139345169.2907.18.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0602080200l3a75f2cqfbc1ff5b7a476b58@mail.gmail.com> On 2/7/06, Jeremy Katz wrote: > I sent mail about this to the Fedora Xen list[1] a little while ago, but > there are updated instructions on how to take advantage of Xen in FC5 > test2 and later available on the wiki at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraXenQuickstartFC5. This will walk > you through getting the right packages installed for your host as well > as using the nice things now available for doing guest installs via > anaconda. tried it. liked it. will be back for more. my only (minor) quibble is that the instruction say you need FC5T2, whereas you need the latest xen rpm, not the one supplied with test 2. From tmraz at redhat.com Wed Feb 8 10:03:41 2006 From: tmraz at redhat.com (Tomas Mraz) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:03:41 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <1139393021.3111.24.camel@perun.redhat.usu> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 10:49 +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > Why should you? I am pretty comfortable with that right now; but then I > also use a Mac, where this kind of mounting seems to be quite normal and > does not cause trouble. Anyway, a mount with the name like "Doom 4 for > Linux Disk 2 of 2" sounds much more descriptive than "cdrom", now does > it? > ;) Except when you want to use command line. The GUI (Nautilus) worked pretty good for normal users (displaying the volume name under the icon) previously without the need for such mount point names. -- Tomas Mraz From mharris at mharris.ca Wed Feb 8 09:14:49 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 04:14:49 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] Message-ID: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> Every time I post to the fedora lists lately, I am getting an autoresponder antispam message back from one of the list members: eorgan945.sspam at uol.com.br This is completely irresponsible behaviour, and bad netiquette. The way I see it, there are 3 choices: 1) This person immediately disables this antispam confirmation bot and apologizes to the mailing list(s), promising to never do this again. or 2) The list administrators kindly remove the person's address from the subscription list, transfering it to the permanent ban list. If necessary, blocking the entire domain if the problem returns (uol.com.br). or 3) I for one, will unsubscribe from all of the fedora lists, simply to avoid this nonesense. I get 300 spam per day, and certainly don't need someone adding to it foolishly on subscription-only mailing lists. If #2 becomes necessary, and the individual can not be identified, I suggest blocking uol.com.br at the IP filter level on Red Hat border routers. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: AntiSpam UOL Subject: RE: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 10:22:48 -0200 (BRST) Size: 7406 URL: From kfischer at bfki.net Wed Feb 8 10:27:46 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:27:46 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139393021.3111.24.camel@perun.redhat.usu> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139393021.3111.24.camel@perun.redhat.usu> Message-ID: <1139394466.3050.28.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 11:03 +0100 schrieb Tomas Mraz: > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 10:49 +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > > > Why should you? I am pretty comfortable with that right now; but then I > > also use a Mac, where this kind of mounting seems to be quite normal and > > does not cause trouble. Anyway, a mount with the name like "Doom 4 for > > Linux Disk 2 of 2" sounds much more descriptive than "cdrom", now does > > it? > > ;) > > Except when you want to use command line. The GUI (Nautilus) worked > pretty good for normal users (displaying the volume name under the icon) > previously without the need for such mount point names. > > -- > Tomas Mraz > Well put. But then, how about having both? Lets say there would exist a subdirectory within '/media' called devices, in which all devices have their proper names? On the other hand, it might be a bit complicated, granted. I really don't get your point - why shouldn't I use something like 'ls /media/Doom_for_Linux' instead of 'ls /media/cdrom'? If somebody does create an application which is shipped on CD why should the aforementioned installer fail (like posted in the post earlier)? This behaviour is completely consistent with Fedora's boot-process (ahem, within grub, of course), where, instead of an device like '/dev/sda' the root-device is identified using its label, adding a lot of flexibility (or, could add, since grub itself needs its own device-map, hope it can get rid of it :) I agree that for now this is an issue - but I personally think things should shift towards using descriptive names for mount points, even on the command line. If somebody sees 'Doom for Linux' in the GUI, it makes searching for that specific CD easier even on the command line in the end, especially if you have - like i do - a couple of different CD/DVD devices attached to your box, most of them via FireWire or USB2... -- Karsten Fischer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mharris at mharris.ca Wed Feb 8 10:32:17 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 05:32:17 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <43E9C8B1.7040707@mharris.ca> Mike A. Harris wrote: > Every time I post to the fedora lists lately, I am getting an > autoresponder antispam message back from one of the list members: > > eorgan945.sspam at uol.com.br > > This is completely irresponsible behaviour, and bad netiquette. > > The way I see it, there are 3 choices: > > 1) This person immediately disables this antispam confirmation > bot and apologizes to the mailing list(s), promising to never > do this again. > > or > > 2) The list administrators kindly remove the person's address > from the subscription list, transfering it to the permanent > ban list. If necessary, blocking the entire domain if the > problem returns (uol.com.br). > > or > > 3) I for one, will unsubscribe from all of the fedora lists, > simply to avoid this nonesense. I get 300 spam per day, > and certainly don't need someone adding to it foolishly > on subscription-only mailing lists. > > > If #2 becomes necessary, and the individual can not be identified, > I suggest blocking uol.com.br at the IP filter level on Red Hat > border routers. Since posting, I've been informed of the problem at a deeper level, and of the FAQ on the Fedora Wiki, and the problems involved in trying to do option #2. In the mean time, a 4th option presented itself: 4) Having uol.com.br blacklisted via the MTA by the admin of my domain. It'd be cool if that could be done on the redhat.com domain also. mgalgoci? -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From sgrubb at redhat.com Wed Feb 8 11:20:14 2006 From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 06:20:14 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <43E9C8B1.7040707@mharris.ca> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <43E9C8B1.7040707@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <200602080620.14340.sgrubb@redhat.com> On Wednesday 08 February 2006 05:32, Mike A. Harris wrote: > 4) Having uol.com.br blacklisted via the MTA by the admin of my > ? ? domain. There's another option: 5) Delete everyone out of the mail list and let everybody re-enroll. -Steve From mharris at mharris.ca Wed Feb 8 11:37:53 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 06:37:53 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <200602080620.14340.sgrubb@redhat.com> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <43E9C8B1.7040707@mharris.ca> <200602080620.14340.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43E9D811.7060204@mharris.ca> Steve Grubb wrote: > On Wednesday 08 February 2006 05:32, Mike A. Harris wrote: > >>4) Having uol.com.br blacklisted via the MTA by the admin of my >> domain. > > > There's another option: > > 5) Delete everyone out of the mail list and let everybody re-enroll. That wouldn't solve anything. Some people would just not bother resubscribing due to laziness or not caring. Those that would resubscribe, certainly would not preclude the problematic person, so nothing would be gained. The majority of list subscribers would be annoyed with no real world gain. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 11:39:49 2006 From: n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com (n0dalus) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:09:49 +1030 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <200602080620.14340.sgrubb@redhat.com> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <43E9C8B1.7040707@mharris.ca> <200602080620.14340.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> On 2/8/06, Steve Grubb wrote: > On Wednesday 08 February 2006 05:32, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > 4) Having uol.com.br blacklisted via the MTA by the admin of my > > domain. > > There's another option: > > 5) Delete everyone out of the mail list and let everybody re-enroll. > Can't we just send an email to each person like this?: To: fedora-devel-list at redhat.com Subject: Automated response checker $unique_number Hi, Unfortunately someone on the Fedora development list is redirecting their emails to a domain that sends an automated response email to any unknown senders whenever they post to the list. The only way to find the address responsible is to send an email to everyone with a unique subject line. We apologize that it has come to this, and invite you to consider that while you may be slightly inconvinienced by this single email, other people are suffering a constant inconvinience because of this issue. Yours sincerely, Mailing list staff. Of course it would need to be sent from a server/address that currently receives the uol responses (I know my Gmail account doesn't get them.) n0dalus. From mharris at mharris.ca Wed Feb 8 12:01:32 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 07:01:32 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <43E9C8B1.7040707@mharris.ca> <200602080620.14340.sgrubb@redhat.com> <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E9DD9C.1050803@mharris.ca> n0dalus wrote: > On 2/8/06, Steve Grubb wrote: > >>On Wednesday 08 February 2006 05:32, Mike A. Harris wrote: >> >>>4) Having uol.com.br blacklisted via the MTA by the admin of my >>>domain. >> >>There's another option: >> >>5) Delete everyone out of the mail list and let everybody re-enroll. >> > > > Can't we just send an email to each person like this?: > > To: fedora-devel-list at redhat.com > Subject: Automated response checker $unique_number That's already been done by someone, who has indicated they weren't able to determine who it was. I think it is just someone who is intentionally causing trouble for everyone on the list, and is deriving great pleasure from reading our emails, knowing full well that they are irritating everyone. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From Fred.New at microlink.ee Wed Feb 8 12:13:28 2006 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:13:28 +0200 Subject: The uol.com.br problem (Was rawhide report: 20060207 changes) Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18F8F081@eemail1.microlink.lan> On 8. veebruar 2006. a. 14:02, Mike A. Harris wrote: > n0dalus wrote: > > > > Can't we just send an email to each person like this?: > > > > To: fedora-devel-list at redhat.com > > Subject: Automated response checker $unique_number > > That's already been done by someone, who has indicated they weren't > able to determine who it was. I don't remember getting any mail like this. And I wouldn't mind if I did. Another list I'm on sends out messages like this about once a month. Fred From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Wed Feb 8 12:22:36 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:22:36 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139394466.3050.28.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139393021.3111.24.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139394466.3050.28.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <43E9E28C.3090601@feuerpokemon.de> Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 11:03 +0100 schrieb Tomas Mraz: > >>On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 10:49 +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: >> >>> Why should you? I am pretty comfortable with that right now; but then I >>> also use a Mac, where this kind of mounting seems to be quite normal and >>> does not cause trouble. Anyway, a mount with the name like "Doom 4 for >>> Linux Disk 2 of 2" sounds much more descriptive than "cdrom", now does >>> it? >>> ;) >> >>Except when you want to use command line. The GUI (Nautilus) worked >>pretty good for normal users (displaying the volume name under the icon) >>previously without the need for such mount point names. >> >>-- >>Tomas Mraz > >> >> >> > > Well put. But then, how about having both? Lets say there would exist > a subdirectory within '/media' called devices, in which all devices > have their proper names? On the other hand, it might be a bit > complicated, granted. > I really don't get your point - why shouldn't I use something like 'ls > /media/Doom_for_Linux' instead of 'ls /media/cdrom'? If somebody does > create an application which is shipped on CD why should the > aforementioned installer fail (like posted in the post earlier)? This > behaviour is completely consistent with Fedora's boot-process (ahem, > within grub, of course), where, instead of an device like '/dev/sda' > the root-device is identified using its label, adding a lot of > flexibility (or, could add, since grub itself needs its own > device-map, hope it can get rid of it :) > > I agree that for now this is an issue - but I personally think things > should shift towards using descriptive names for mount points, even on > the command line. If somebody sees 'Doom for Linux' in the GUI, it > makes searching for that specific CD easier even on the command line > in the end, especially if you have - like i do - a couple of different > CD/DVD devices attached to your box, most of them via FireWire or USB2... > > -- > Karsten Fischer what about adding a symlink from /media/cdrom to /media/volumename ? wouldn't break old apps, and thus ho preffer the new behaviour can use it. From monty19 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 8 12:33:37 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:33:37 +0900 Subject: xenguest-install.py crashing Message-ID: The script is crashing with the error below. I have no idea what I am doing wrong to cause this. However, the version of the script here: http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/xenguest-install.py is working just fine. Cpl Montleon USMC # xenguest-install.py What is the name of your virtual machine? FC5T2XEN How much RAM should be allocated (in megabytes)? 256 What would you like to use as the disk (path)? /media/FC5T2XEN.DISK How large would you like the disk to be (in gigabytes)? 10.0 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/xenguest-install.py", line 357, in ? main() File "/usr/sbin/xenguest-install.py", line 347, in main src = get_paravirt_install(options) File "/usr/sbin/xenguest-install.py", line 223, in get_paravirt_install if src.startswith("http://") or src.startswith("ftp://"): AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith' From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 8 12:38:02 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 04:38:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139382334.16485.4.camel@zowie.fnordora.org> Message-ID: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alan wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 08:36 +0800, John Summerfied > wrote: > > alan wrote: > > > The gnome-volume-manager now mounts cds to > "/media/{volume_name}", instead > > > of "/media/cdrecorder". > > > > It happens, I think, with all filesystems on all > mountable devices, and > > I think it's not actually gnome-volume-manager but > something in hotplug > > or one of its allies. Happens on SUSE 10 too. > > > > For me, the entire idea of autmounting things is > broken. For example > > 1. I insert a CD-RW to reuse. Do I want it > mounted? > > 2. I plug in a USB2 drive. Do I want its five or > ten partitions mounted? > > Probably not, more likely one. > > 3. I'm working at a virtual console (I have twelve > defind, sometimes use > > more, and also use screen). Do I want anything > mounted and opened at the > > desktop? Probably not. Working through a stack of > CDs is a pain. I used > > to do things like this: > > mount /mnt/cdrom && ls -l /mnt/cdrom; eject > /mnt/cdrom > > > > Hint: read the instructions for preparing for a > network install of FC & > > RHEL. > > > > Now the wretched things are likely to get opened > on the desktop. Worse, > > I've had ISOs get opened when mounted too. > > Yeah, but at least they got mounted to a consistent > place. Now they get > mounted to the name of the volume. What happens > when you have multiple > volumes of the same name? They get named /media/VOLUMENAME-1, /media/VOLUMENAME-2, ..., > What happens when you > have older installers > that expect something like /mnt/cdrom or > /media/cdrecorder for each of > many discs. > We will have to find a way to deal with that. > > This is going to cause a lot of grief. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From sgrubb at redhat.com Wed Feb 8 12:48:56 2006 From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 07:48:56 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <43E9DD9C.1050803@mharris.ca> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> <43E9DD9C.1050803@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <200602080748.56664.sgrubb@redhat.com> On Wednesday 08 February 2006 07:01, Mike A. Harris wrote: > That's already been done by someone, who has indicated they weren't > able to determine who it was. I don't remember ever getting one. I think it would be worth a try. I'm ready for the nuclear option. Regarding having everyone re-enroll. If their anti-spam system really requires a response to let the mail through, they probably aren't reading any of this mail about what a PITA they are. I also wonder if the signup mail would even get through to them since our mail system won't reply to the antispam email. -Steve From kfischer at bfki.net Wed Feb 8 12:55:36 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:55:36 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 04:38 -0800 schrieb Antonio Olivares: > > What happens when you > > have older installers > > that expect something like /mnt/cdrom or > > /media/cdrecorder for each of > > many discs. > > > We will have to find a way to deal with that. > > Just out of morbid curiosity (no offence meant :): I do know of just one software (for Linux, that is) which consists of several CD's, but then the installer asks where it could find the next disc. Just to get the picture, I would like to know how many of these aforementioned 'older installers' do really exist? I do lack some knowledge there... -- Karsten Fischer From tjikkun at xs4all.nl Wed Feb 8 12:58:31 2006 From: tjikkun at xs4all.nl (Sander Hoentjen) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:58:31 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <200602080748.56664.sgrubb@redhat.com> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> <43E9DD9C.1050803@mharris.ca> <200602080748.56664.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139403512.4112.17.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 07:48 -0500, Steve Grubb wrote: > On Wednesday 08 February 2006 07:01, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > That's already been done by someone, who has indicated they weren't > > able to determine who it was. > > I don't remember ever getting one. I think it would be worth a try. I'm ready > for the nuclear option. > > Regarding having everyone re-enroll. If their anti-spam system really requires > a response to let the mail through, they probably aren't reading any of this > mail about what a PITA they are. I also wonder if the signup mail would even > get through to them since our mail system won't reply to the antispam email. > My wild guess: - Person signs up using his yahoo.com (or whatever) e-mail address. - Person gets an offer for this cool anti-spam uol.com.br e-mail address - Person decided to go for it and forwards his old address to it. - People on this list get annoyed (including me since i am sending an e-mail again. or maybe it was something else entirely :) Now I also never saw the "Automated response checker with unique number" but I think it would be a good idea. Sander From monty19 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 8 13:19:47 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:19:47 +0900 Subject: default startup order for firewall and yum-updateonboot Message-ID: The default startup order has firestarter starting up after yum-updateonboot (both from Fedora Linux Extras.) If you haven't booted up the system in awhile, and yum-updateonboot is taking a considerable amount of time updating,, you are vulnerable for the entire time yum-updateonboot is working. I have had my system updating for over an hour a few times in the last couple weeks while booting, and if say, the system were vulnerable to a rapidly spreading worm on the internet, you would be unecessarilly exposed for that entire time, whereas if firestarter came up first, you would at least have a reasonable chance of being protected by your firewall policy while the system is updating. Cpl Montleon USMC From monty19 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 8 13:25:43 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:25:43 +0900 Subject: default startup order for firewall and yum-updateonboot References: Message-ID: I take that back. I'm a dum**** ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Montleon" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: default startup order for firewall and yum-updateonboot > The default startup order has firestarter starting up after > yum-updateonboot (both from Fedora Linux Extras.) If you haven't booted > up the system in awhile, and yum-updateonboot is taking a considerable > amount of time updating,, you are vulnerable for the entire time > yum-updateonboot is working. > > I have had my system updating for over an hour a few times in the last > couple weeks while booting, and if say, the system were vulnerable to a > rapidly spreading worm on the internet, you would be unecessarilly exposed > for that entire time, whereas if firestarter came up first, you would at > least have a reasonable chance of being protected by your firewall policy > while the system is updating. > > Cpl Montleon > USMC > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From chrisw01 at comcast.net Wed Feb 8 13:59:25 2006 From: chrisw01 at comcast.net (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 06:59:25 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <1139403512.4112.17.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> <43E9DD9C.1050803@mharris.ca> <200602080748.56664.sgrubb@redhat.com> <1139403512.4112.17.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1139407165.19396.12.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 13:58 +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 07:48 -0500, Steve Grubb wrote: > > On Wednesday 08 February 2006 07:01, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > > That's already been done by someone, who has indicated they weren't > > > able to determine who it was. > > > > I don't remember ever getting one. I think it would be worth a try. I'm ready > > for the nuclear option. > > > > Regarding having everyone re-enroll. If their anti-spam system really requires > > a response to let the mail through, they probably aren't reading any of this > > mail about what a PITA they are. I also wonder if the signup mail would even > > get through to them since our mail system won't reply to the antispam email. > > > My wild guess: > - Person signs up using his yahoo.com (or whatever) e-mail address. > - Person gets an offer for this cool anti-spam uol.com.br e-mail address > - Person decided to go for it and forwards his old address to it. > - People on this list get annoyed (including me since i am sending an > e-mail again. I too am ready for the nuclear option. Frankly, I also think this solves other problems as well. For example, when Mike wrote: "That wouldn't solve anything. Some people would just not bother resubscribing due to laziness or not caring. Those that would resubscribe, certainly would not preclude the problematic person, so nothing would be gained. The majority of list subscribers would be annoyed with no real world gain." I would definitely disagree. It's more a question of how this is done. If there's sufficient communication ahead of time (and that's more than 1 e-mail sent out) that everyone will have to re-enroll on, say, Friday of next week, people will have expectations set. Those that choose not to resubscribe out of laziness or not caring probably aren't really the type that make consistent, positive contributions and this might be their wake-up call to action. That the problematic person would not be included is an absolute solution to the initial problem - everything would be gained as the goal of the nuclear option would be met. As long as the reasons why the nuclear option is needed are communicated clearly and concisely with plenty of notice when it is done - in fact, send a last reminder message that it is happening just before executing it - you minimize the level of annoyance for those resubscribing. At least for me, it's much more convenient to click a URL and resubscribe to this list than to resort to the tactics of asking my ISP to ban a domain, maintain filters, etc. I vote for the clear/resubscribe option. Cheers, Chris -- ====================== "Never murder a man when he's busy committing suicide." -- Woodrow Wilson From miles.lane at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 14:04:37 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:04:37 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <1139407165.19396.12.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> <43E9DD9C.1050803@mharris.ca> <200602080748.56664.sgrubb@redhat.com> <1139403512.4112.17.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <1139407165.19396.12.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> Message-ID: On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 13:58 +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: [...] > I vote for the clear/resubscribe option. Me to. If people can't be bothered to resubscribe, how much are they likely to contribute to Fedora? Not much, I bet. Miles From jpearson42 at wowway.com Wed Feb 8 14:16:04 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:16:04 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <43E93CF6.8030209@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <43E93CF6.8030209@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <200602080916.04725.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Tuesday 07 February 2006 7:36 pm, John Summerfied wrote: > Yesterday 7:36:06 pm > ? > > alan wrote: > > The gnome-volume-manager now mounts cds to "/media/{volume_name}", > > instead of "/media/cdrecorder". > > It happens, I think, with all filesystems on all mountable devices, and > I think it's not actually gnome-volume-manager but something in hotplug > or one of its allies. Happens on SUSE 10 too. While generic labels can be convenient, I find it very useful for maintaining backups using usb enclosure mounted hard drives. I can test for correct destination at the top of the script, and not wreck havoc if the wrong volume was spun up. [They all look about the same from the outside.] For installation, it makes identifying the inserted disk a simple test of [ -d /media/super_project_x ] Cheers jp From bshotts at panix.com Wed Feb 8 14:42:07 2006 From: bshotts at panix.com (William Shotts) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:42:07 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name Message-ID: <1139409728.21994.12.camel@twin9> I'm confused. I have noticed two things on my test system that seem contrary to what some people are saying: 1. When I insert any kind of removable media (USB disks, USB DVD writers, USB memory card readers), I always get /media/disk or /media/disk-n as the mount point. Nautilus displays the volume label on the desktop but the mount point is not reflective of either the device type nor the volume label. 2. The /etc/fstab file is never updated with any additional mount points. Is this unexpected behavior? Further, wouldn't proper FHS conformance suggest that the mount point name reflect the device type (i.e. /media/cdburner) rather than the volume name? From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Wed Feb 8 14:43:57 2006 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 07:43:57 -0700 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 01:55:36PM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 04:38 -0800 schrieb Antonio Olivares: > > > > What happens when you > > > have older installers > > > that expect something like /mnt/cdrom or > > > /media/cdrecorder for each of > > > many discs. > > > > > We will have to find a way to deal with that. > > > > > Just out of morbid curiosity (no offence meant :): I do know of just one > software (for Linux, that is) which consists of several CD's, but then > the installer asks where it could find the next disc. > Just to get the picture, I would like to know how many of these > aforementioned 'older installers' do really exist? I do lack some > knowledge there... One thought that comes to mind is backups made with Bacula, or from Amanda virtual tapes, which span multiple CDs or DVDs. In the first case, the volume name is at the mercy of the software vendor. In the scond, it is at the mercy of the individual administrator. Either of whom may have given little or no thought to using volume names in this way. Have the developers considered that this feature may break programs that routinely mount DVDs, such as Bacula? -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Why the hell would an adminstrator rely on "desktop" automount functionality for amanda virtual tapes? No one has taken away your ability to create an fstab entry or to use your own cmdline mount commands to mount this objects outside of the desktop context. If you need to use programs as an administrator that do not understand how to talk across dbus and get access to the device information from the hal layer.. you still have the older means at your disposal to create your own fstab entry and mountpoints for the devices to enforce whatever naming scheme you desire. -jef From justin.conover at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 15:13:27 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:13:27 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> <43E9DD9C.1050803@mharris.ca> <200602080748.56664.sgrubb@redhat.com> <1139403512.4112.17.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <1139407165.19396.12.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> Message-ID: On 2/8/06, Miles Lane wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 13:58 +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > [...] > > I vote for the clear/resubscribe option. > > Me to. If people can't be bothered to resubscribe, how much are they > likely to contribute to Fedora? Not much, I bet. > > Miles > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Option 6 Use gmail and create a filter to dump to TRASH. This is one of the things I love about gmail. I'm on the majoiry of fedora/rh mailing list selinux and xen and I have filters and folders to go to each folder(label) Gmail is the best online e-mail system I've ever used. With 2.6GB of storage and growing, all the list I'm on and some are very heavy traffic, I don't have to delete anything I don't want to. Plus I get to take all my fedora list with me ;) Might not be able to use that if you have mailing address like @redhat.combut you could just use @ gmail.com Mike and register it with the mailing list and get taken off of @ redhat.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Miles From n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 15:37:06 2006 From: n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com (n0dalus) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 02:07:06 +1030 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> <43E9DD9C.1050803@mharris.ca> <200602080748.56664.sgrubb@redhat.com> <1139403512.4112.17.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <1139407165.19396.12.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> Message-ID: <6280325c0602080737y46b4911aga2637319bb935dfd@mail.gmail.com> On 2/9/06, Miles Lane wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 13:58 +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > [...] > > I vote for the clear/resubscribe option. > > Me to. If people can't be bothered to resubscribe, how much are they > likely to contribute to Fedora? Not much, I bet. > I disagree. I am on the mailing lists of several open source projects, and every now and then I will mark unread emails on one or two of them as read. I don't have time to read all the emails, but it's great to have them in my archive for searching, and every now and then I see a topic that I can contribute to. If one of the mailing lists that I'm currently not reading got one of these resubscribe requests I could easily fail to notice it -- that doesn't mean I'm not likely to contribute to their project every now and then. I think the best way is to just send an email to everyone. I have been on the list for several months now and I have never gotten any automated email like the one described earlier. This could be because I'm not in the public subscriber list. Or perhaps the email wasn't To: fedora-devel (because the responsible person may have a filter to only forward some emails) or maybe it was sent in a way that wouldn't have usually gotten a challenge from the UOL server. Someone asked why not everyone gets the emails. I am guessing it's because some domains (like gmail, hotmail, etc) are whitelisted on their server. I think a mass unique email is the best way. It would use just as many emails as sending a resubscribe request to everyone, and it would be far more effective at finding the person responsible (if constructed correctly). For all we know it could be that someone's box has been hacked and their mail config files have been set to forward all their mail to this uol account. If the forwarding is accidental or through some other circumstances the person doesn't even realise, they could resubscribe when the request comes around and the problem would continue. n0dalus. From n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 15:48:51 2006 From: n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com (n0dalus) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 02:18:51 +1030 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <17386.4408.883952.179083@zapata.pink> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> <43E9DD9C.1050803@mharris.ca> <200602080748.56664.sgrubb@redhat.com> <1139403512.4112.17.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <1139407165.19396.12.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> <6280325c0602080737y46b4911aga2637319bb935dfd@mail.gmail.com> <17386.4408.883952.179083@zapata.pink> Message-ID: <6280325c0602080748i2536540ay4687003c26aa192d@mail.gmail.com> On 2/9/06, Andrew Haley wrote: > > But if it's being done deliberately, even if we figure out the real > address they can just re-subscribe with another alias. > If someone wanted to annoy everybody deliberately, there are much much better ways of doing it. They could forwards the list emails around to 20 accounts on email domains which send challenge requests. If they really wanted to they could automatically submit our email addresses to 1000 spam sites. The possibilities are endless. For this reason, I don't think it is deliberate. Even if it is, by sending a unique email to everyone we can find out soon enough. n0dalus. From chrisw01 at comcast.net Wed Feb 8 16:00:08 2006 From: chrisw01 at comcast.net (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:00:08 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <6280325c0602080748i2536540ay4687003c26aa192d@mail.gmail.com> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> <43E9DD9C.1050803@mharris.ca> <200602080748.56664.sgrubb@redhat.com> <1139403512.4112.17.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <1139407165.19396.12.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> <6280325c0602080737y46b4911aga2637319bb935dfd@mail.gmail.com> <17386.4408.883952.179083@zapata.pink> <6280325c0602080748i2536540ay4687003c26aa192d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1139414408.2898.15.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 02:18 +1030, n0dalus wrote: > On 2/9/06, Andrew Haley wrote: > > > > But if it's being done deliberately, even if we figure out the real > > address they can just re-subscribe with another alias. > > > > If someone wanted to annoy everybody deliberately, there are much much > better ways of doing it. They could forwards the list emails around to > 20 accounts on email domains which send challenge requests. If they > really wanted to they could automatically submit our email addresses > to 1000 spam sites. The possibilities are endless. > > For this reason, I don't think it is deliberate. Even if it is, by You do make a good point. I would be comfortable trying this option first. But if it is unsuccessful, I would then demand the nuclear option. I get one of these challenge requests with *every* message I send to this list. It's quote annoying and has been a reason that, on occasion, I have elected *not* to post. I'm sure it's stopping others from contributing more as well. Cheers, Chris -- ====================== "Never murder a man when he's busy committing suicide." -- Woodrow Wilson From mharris at mharris.ca Wed Feb 8 16:21:52 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:21:52 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> <43E9DD9C.1050803@mharris.ca> <200602080748.56664.sgrubb@redhat.com> <1139403512.4112.17.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <1139407165.19396.12.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> Message-ID: <43EA1AA0.9050205@mharris.ca> Justin Conover wrote: > Option 6 > > Use gmail and create a filter to dump to TRASH. Unnecessary. uol.com.br can no longer deliver mail to my domain "mharris.ca", so the problem is solved for me now at least (and for other folks using the same system). > Gmail is the best online e-mail system I've ever used. With 2.6GB of > storage and growing, all the list I'm on and some are very heavy > traffic, I don't have to delete anything I don't want to. With 1.5Tb of disk space and growing, my local hard disk storage holds all of the lists I'm on now, and all of my email going back to 1996 on about 20+ mail accounts I've had over that time period, with approximately 300 mailing lists total, many of which have been high volume. I never delete anything practically ever. It takes more effort to "think" about deleting something than to just leave it sit there. Disk space increases over time, faster than incoming email fills it, although spammers have attempted to falsify that, they're losing the war on spam now at least for me. ;o) > Plus I get to take all my fedora list with me ;) > > Might not be able to use that if you have mailing address like > @redhat.com but you could just use @gmail.com > Mike and register it with the mailing list and get > taken off of @redhat.com In addition to essentially infinite disk storage locally, I can filter mail at the local sendmail level, procmail, or MUA already. Plus I hate web based email, and even moreso, don't like the idea of my personal email being searchable by some company, etc. gmail is a nifty thing, and I know many people who love it, but it's just not my thing. Thanks anyway for the suggestion though. If it's any consolation, I have an Orkut account which I don't remember the password to anymore. ;o) -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From katzj at redhat.com Wed Feb 8 16:25:08 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:25:08 -0500 Subject: xenguest-install.py crashing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1139415909.22826.25.camel@bree.local.net> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 21:33 +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: > The script is crashing with the error below. I have no idea what I am doing > wrong to cause this. However, the version of the script here: > http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/xenguest-install.py is working just fine. Fixed in CVS -- I'll hopefully get another build done today with it fixed Jeremy From mharris at mharris.ca Wed Feb 8 16:27:13 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:27:13 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <6280325c0602080748i2536540ay4687003c26aa192d@mail.gmail.com> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <6280325c0602080339x63857c54qee401bf6d85eabed@mail.gmail.com> <43E9DD9C.1050803@mharris.ca> <200602080748.56664.sgrubb@redhat.com> <1139403512.4112.17.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <1139407165.19396.12.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> <6280325c0602080737y46b4911aga2637319bb935dfd@mail.gmail.com> <17386.4408.883952.179083@zapata.pink> <6280325c0602080748i2536540ay4687003c26aa192d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43EA1BE1.8090101@mharris.ca> n0dalus wrote: > On 2/9/06, Andrew Haley wrote: > >>But if it's being done deliberately, even if we figure out the real >>address they can just re-subscribe with another alias. >> > > > If someone wanted to annoy everybody deliberately, there are much much > better ways of doing it. Or they could start an email thread about being upset over someone having an anonymous autoresponder on a mailing list. ;o) /me runs -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From gbofspam at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 16:27:52 2006 From: gbofspam at gmail.com (gb spam) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:27:52 -0500 Subject: xenguest-install.py crashing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0602080827i1fc7424bsaf18d8bdca32e16d@mail.gmail.com> On 2/8/06, Jason Montleon wrote: > The script is crashing with the error below. I have no idea what I am doing > wrong to cause this. However, the version of the script here: > http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/xenguest-install.py is working just fine. > > Cpl Montleon > USMC > > # xenguest-install.py > What is the name of your virtual machine? FC5T2XEN > How much RAM should be allocated (in megabytes)? 256 > What would you like to use as the disk (path)? /media/FC5T2XEN.DISK > How large would you like the disk to be (in gigabytes)? 10.0 > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/sbin/xenguest-install.py", line 357, in ? > main() > File "/usr/sbin/xenguest-install.py", line 347, in main > src = get_paravirt_install(options) > File "/usr/sbin/xenguest-install.py", line 223, in get_paravirt_install > if src.startswith("http://") or src.startswith("ftp://"): > AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith' > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Are you using the latest version of xen? Why I run it I get different output to you: # xenguest-install.py What is the name of your virtual machine? FC5T2XEN ERROR: Installs currently require 256 megs of RAM. How much RAM should be allocated (in megabytes)? From gbofspam at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 16:28:25 2006 From: gbofspam at gmail.com (gb spam) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:28:25 -0500 Subject: xenguest-install.py crashing In-Reply-To: <6c3f5e6c0602080827i1fc7424bsaf18d8bdca32e16d@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c3f5e6c0602080827i1fc7424bsaf18d8bdca32e16d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0602080828y6bea04cfw48a1067fb77e6f46@mail.gmail.com> > Are you using the latest version of xen? Why I run it I get different > output to you: > > # xenguest-install.py > What is the name of your virtual machine? FC5T2XEN > ERROR: Installs currently require 256 megs of RAM. > > How much RAM should be allocated (in megabytes)? > I have xen-3.0-0.20060130.fc5.3 From mgleahy at golden.net Wed Feb 8 17:54:29 2006 From: mgleahy at golden.net (Mike Leahy) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 12:54:29 -0500 Subject: Question regarding bcm43xx driver in FC5 kernels... In-Reply-To: <20060207234426.0EAB973323@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060207234426.0EAB973323@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43EA3055.2000100@golden.net> Dave/List, I just updated to the latest FC5 kernel as of last night (#1914). I still have the same problem as I did for all previous copies of the bcm43xx driver that comes with the kernel. That is, during the boot I get errors saying something like "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory", and when I try to scan for access points using iwlist, I get a message for the wireless device saying that the hardware doesn't support scanning. If it adds any insight to my problem, I'm trying to use this with a Linksys WPC54G PCMCIA card, which has a Broadcom 4306 rev 2 chipset. I may make another attempt at manually compiling the driver from source, but I don't think I'll have the time to do so for at least a week or two. So, I guess for now I'll just stick to removing bcm43xx/reinstalling ndiswrapper for any kernel updates. Mike ------------------------------ On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 03:02:30PM -0500, Mike Leahy wrote: > Hello List, > > I've been discussing some problems I have with the bcm43xx drivers (for > wireless cards based on the Broadcom 43xx chipsets) on their users list > (bcm43xx-dev at lists.berlios.de). As you can see from the response to my > latest message below, it appears that the bcm43xx driver being released > with the kernels is not up-to-date. I have only been able to get my > wireless card working in FC5 by manually deleting the bcm43xx module > from the kernel, then (re)installing ndiswrapper. As the bcm43xx is > included with every FC5 kernel update, I have to do this procedure > pretty frequently, since I'm generally keeping up with the development > updates. You didn't mention which kernel you were running. There was an update yesterday which should bring us up to date again. It's lagged a little over the last few weeks whilst Dave Woodhouse (who has been taking care of syncing this with upstream) was attending LCA. ah the joys of out-of-tree drivers. Dave From fabio.comolli at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 18:34:52 2006 From: fabio.comolli at gmail.com (Fabio Comolli) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:34:52 +0100 Subject: Question regarding bcm43xx driver in FC5 kernels... In-Reply-To: <20060207202958.GE24775@redhat.com> References: <43E8FCD6.6030101@golden.net> <20060207202958.GE24775@redhat.com> Message-ID: Hi. > > ah the joys of out-of-tree drivers. > Indeed. I'm having the very same problem with the RTL8180 diver for my PC-CARD wireless adaptor ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/rtl8180-sa2400 for reference ). I wish someone would take care of it ... > Dave > Cheers, Fabio > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From michal at harddata.com Wed Feb 8 18:46:06 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:46:06 -0700 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139393021.3111.24.camel@perun.redhat.usu> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139393021.3111.24.camel@perun.redhat.usu> Message-ID: <20060208184606.GA28299@mail.harddata.com> On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:03:41AM +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 10:49 +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > > > Why should you? I am pretty comfortable with that right now; but then I > > also use a Mac, where this kind of mounting seems to be quite normal and > > does not cause trouble. Anyway, a mount with the name like "Doom 4 for > > Linux Disk 2 of 2" sounds much more descriptive than "cdrom", now does > > it? > > ;) > > Except when you want to use command line. Or, for example, when you want to play a CD with some sound files and your GUI player expects to find these data in some consistent location. What did you gain from a more "descriptive" mount point name (there was already on a desktop a label with a volume name) over a serious PITA if you are not welded to a mouse? OTOH if you are welded then why do you care about a mount point name at all? Michal From michal at harddata.com Wed Feb 8 18:53:43 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:53:43 -0700 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 10:13:09AM -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/8/06, Charles Curley wrote: > > > > Have the developers considered that this feature may break programs > > that routinely mount DVDs, such as Bacula? > > Why the hell would an adminstrator rely on "desktop" automount > functionality for amanda virtual tapes? Because if that administrator is using not only a command line, and is s/he does not want to turn off completely automounting of removable media, then s/he has a hard time trying to work around some "features". Keep in mind that Linux machines more often then not are "multipurpose". Michal From michal at harddata.com Wed Feb 8 19:04:22 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 12:04:22 -0700 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139394466.3050.28.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139393021.3111.24.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139394466.3050.28.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <20060208190422.GC28299@mail.harddata.com> On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:27:46AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > I really don't get your point - > why shouldn't I use something like 'ls /media/Doom_for_Linux' > instead of 'ls /media/cdrom'? First of all this will be ls /media/Doom\ 4\ for\ Linux\ Disk\ 2\ of\ 2 which is entirely different kettle of fish. The second - when you will write a script which is automatically and reliably guessing a name of your latest mount point, and quoting it properly, then let us know. Many will be interested. Michal From alan at clueserver.org Wed Feb 8 19:04:50 2006 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:04:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <200602080916.04725.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, John Pearson wrote: > On Tuesday 07 February 2006 7:36 pm, John Summerfied wrote: > > Yesterday 7:36:06 pm > > ? > > > > alan wrote: > > > The gnome-volume-manager now mounts cds to "/media/{volume_name}", > > > instead of "/media/cdrecorder". > > > > It happens, I think, with all filesystems on all mountable devices, and > > I think it's not actually gnome-volume-manager but something in hotplug > > or one of its allies. Happens on SUSE 10 too. > > While generic labels can be convenient, I find it very useful for maintaining > backups using usb enclosure mounted hard drives. I can test for correct > destination at the top of the script, and not wreck havoc if the wrong volume > was spun up. [They all look about the same from the outside.] > > For installation, it makes identifying the inserted disk a simple test of > [ -d /media/super_project_x ] You can accomplish the same by having a unique filename on the disk. [-f /media/cdrecorder/file_i_am_expecting ] This change may be convienient to you, but it breaks pretty much any software that expects the old behaviour. (i.e. every third party installer, gtktalog, multi-disc installs, etc.) I can see why you want it, but it breaks too damn much existing code we have no control over. -- "George W. Bush -- Bringing back the Sixties one Nixon at a time." From alan at clueserver.org Wed Feb 8 19:10:54 2006 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:10:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 10:13:09AM -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On 2/8/06, Charles Curley wrote: > > > > > > Have the developers considered that this feature may break programs > > > that routinely mount DVDs, such as Bacula? > > > > Why the hell would an adminstrator rely on "desktop" automount > > functionality for amanda virtual tapes? > > Because if that administrator is using not only a command line, and > is s/he does not want to turn off completely automounting of > removable media, then s/he has a hard time trying to work around > some "features". > > Keep in mind that Linux machines more often then not are > "multipurpose". Or maybe the admin wants to back up his laptop. The assumption that "every machine that uses software of type x must be a server" is no longer valid when you have desktop and/or laptop machines that can server both purposes without breaking a sweat. (Like my x86_64 AMD64 3700+ laptop.) -- "George W. Bush -- Bringing back the Sixties one Nixon at a time." From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 19:17:11 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:17:11 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> On 2/8/06, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > Because if that administrator is using not only a command line, and > is s/he does not want to turn off completely automounting of > removable media, then s/he has a hard time trying to work around > some "features". Its difficult to do a second mount to a second location of your choosing via a mount command? Last time I checked(3 minutes ago) you can do your own mounts as needed no matter what the desktop automounter is doing. Its is it really difficult to create your own fstab entries? Now that gnome-mount doesn't even attempt to write entries to fstab.. it should be pretty easy to avoid getting confused with fstab manipulation. Manual mounts that you need to do can exist in fstab.. like they always use to before the fstab-sync existed. Niether of these very ancient and very reliable techniques for manually mounting things require you to turn off the desktop mounting. -jef"I'm sure the fuse stuff is going to complicate mounting interpretations even further as they become more heavily used"spaleta -jef"its From davej at redhat.com Wed Feb 8 20:07:59 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 15:07:59 -0500 Subject: Question regarding bcm43xx driver in FC5 kernels... In-Reply-To: <43EA3055.2000100@golden.net> References: <20060207234426.0EAB973323@hormel.redhat.com> <43EA3055.2000100@golden.net> Message-ID: <20060208200759.GC11105@redhat.com> On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 12:54:29PM -0500, Mike Leahy wrote: > Dave/List, > > I just updated to the latest FC5 kernel as of last night (#1914). I > still have the same problem as I did for all previous copies of the > bcm43xx driver that comes with the kernel. That is, during the boot I > get errors saying something like "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or > directory", and when I try to scan for access points using iwlist, I get > a message for the wireless device saying that the hardware doesn't > support scanning. If it adds any insight to my problem, I'm trying to > use this with a Linksys WPC54G PCMCIA card, which has a Broadcom 4306 > rev 2 chipset. do you have the firmware installed ? Dave From cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk Wed Feb 8 20:38:13 2006 From: cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk (Anne Wilson) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:38:13 +0000 Subject: [Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20060207 changes] In-Reply-To: <43EA1BE1.8090101@mharris.ca> References: <43E9B689.6050203@mharris.ca> <6280325c0602080748i2536540ay4687003c26aa192d@mail.gmail.com> <43EA1BE1.8090101@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <200602082038.13739.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> On Wednesday 08 Feb 2006 16:27, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > Or they could start an email thread about being upset over someone > having an anonymous autoresponder on a mailing list. ;o) > > /me runs > Much more fun than reading a wiki page :-) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UOL Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Can anyone post a link to fixing this? -- Ewin From selinux at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 21:33:06 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 13:33:06 -0800 Subject: Firefox missing fonts In-Reply-To: <43EA5857.7040100@chrusos.com> References: <20060207234426.5F7907332B@hormel.redhat.com> <43EA5857.7040100@chrusos.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602081333u4acf5936y9b01091b9210d8e7@mail.gmail.com> On 2/8/06, E Barnett wrote: > Fellow FC testers- > > I am running FC5 and FC4 both under VMware. FC5 is fine, but the last > update of Firefox triggered the old missing-all-fonts problem. This is > where the program loads but there is not a single font in the frame. It > makes it kinda hard to run! I have misplaced the workaround. Can anyone > post a link to fixing this? > > -- Ewin > Its reported that installing the previous version of fontconfig 'fixes'. tom -- Tom London From jpearson42 at wowway.com Wed Feb 8 22:01:07 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 17:01:07 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200602081701.07866.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Wednesday 08 February 2006 2:04 pm, alan wrote: > installer, gtktalog, multi-disc installs, etc.) > > I can see why you want it, but it breaks too damn much existing code we > have no control over. Your point is well taken. I will have to check, but is controlling the volume name, i.e. 'cdrom', sufficient to guarantee a known mount? -jp From michal at harddata.com Wed Feb 8 22:22:31 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 15:22:31 -0700 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 02:17:11PM -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > Its difficult to do a second mount to a second location of your > choosing via a mount command? No, it is not difficult for _me_. OTOH in the real life I had to deal, not once and not twice, with some who one would think should know better but exactly changes in how things are getting mounted created for them serious obstacles. > Last time I checked(3 minutes ago) you > can do your own mounts as needed no matter what the desktop > automounter is doing. In other words you are telling now that we simply should ignore automounter. Maybe a partially good advice but why we needed it then in the first place? This is actually is a pretty bad idea in case of USB devices as you do not know in advance which device you will get (it is enough to disconnect and reconnect and it may move) so your claim that you can edit fstab in advance fails flat on its face. Now assume that a user has a script to scp some files from a USB key to a remote machine (this is a real life example and even "mission critical"). We will have tons of fun to handle that. Other consequence is that 'eject' command for non-root stops working. Quite nasty. Even if you "double mounted" your CD then the other mount is still active and you will not have an access to it as it is not in fstab. Unmounting other media in a script for a non-root also looks like a bundle of joy. grep through an output of mount, guess correctly what device we may be dealing with and use 'gnome-mount -e ...'? Maybe. Does this work if an access is remote and a desktop is nowhere is sight? Who knows. What is somebody followed your advice and has the same media mounted many times? Conditional execution when this happens to be a system which does not have a gnome desktop or maybe an older, saner, version? Tons of puzzles and a very "productive" time ahead for those who have to deal with real installations. In any case on my test system this whole automount bundle is quite far from operational in any form so I can only try to guess. I understand perfectly why fstab-sync is a hack and why one would want to replace it with something saner. Only it seems that the cure in the current shape is far worse than the original affliction. I still scratch my head what you are gaining by mounting removable media at some pseudo-random locations. They are effectively random as a volume name is not apparent from a shape of some CD. It may even be empty. As it was noted on a desktop you have a label with that volume name anyway. Michal From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Wed Feb 8 22:49:57 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:49:57 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43EA7595.5000201@herakles.homelinux.org> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/8/06, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > >>Because if that administrator is using not only a command line, and >>is s/he does not want to turn off completely automounting of >>removable media, then s/he has a hard time trying to work around >>some "features". > > > Its difficult to do a second mount to a second location of your > choosing via a mount command? Last time I checked(3 minutes ago) you > can do your own mounts as needed no matter what the desktop > automounter is doing. Yes -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Wed Feb 8 22:49:02 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:49:02 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43EA755E.70509@herakles.homelinux.org> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/8/06, Charles Curley wrote: > >>In the first case, the volume name is at the mercy of the software >>vendor. In the scond, it is at the mercy of the individual >>administrator. Either of whom may have given little or no thought to >>using volume names in this way. >> >>Have the developers considered that this feature may break programs >>that routinely mount DVDs, such as Bacula? > > > Why the hell would an adminstrator rely on "desktop" automount > functionality for amanda virtual tapes? Who said they would? _I_ said I have problems working at the console, with stuff getting mounted and then opened in the desktop (which might not be mine). I don't see that software would be different; yast (in SUSE) and apt-get (Debian) both do CD mounts. I've not had a problem on SUSE with CDs (yet), but on SUSE the mount-point for CDs is stable (tho there are way too many symlinks interfering with tab-completion). -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Wed Feb 8 22:52:23 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:52:23 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <200602081701.07866.jpearson42@wowway.com> References: <200602081701.07866.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: <43EA7627.7030104@herakles.homelinux.org> John Pearson wrote: > On Wednesday 08 February 2006 2:04 pm, alan wrote: > >>installer, gtktalog, multi-disc installs, etc.) >> >>I can see why you want it, but it breaks too damn much existing code we >>have no control over. > > > Your point is well taken. I will have to check, but is controlling the volume > name, i.e. 'cdrom', sufficient to guarantee a known mount? No. It does not happen that way, with CDs or DVDs, on FC3 or RHEL 4, and RHEL 4 and before will be here for years to come. Heck, RHL 7.3 is still around (and supported by Fedora Legacy). -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Wed Feb 8 22:54:01 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:54:01 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <43EA7689.5070006@herakles.homelinux.org> Karsten Fischer wrote: >> > > Why should you? I am pretty comfortable with that right now; but then I > also use a Mac, where this kind of mounting seems to be quite normal and > does not cause trouble. Anyway, a mount with the name like "Doom 4 for > Linux Disk 2 of 2" sounds much more descriptive than "cdrom", now does > it? OS X only has to be like OS X. OS X does lots of odd things. OS X isn't a good counterexample. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 23:02:11 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 18:02:11 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602081502o20657d9ct553e7f252329ddf2@mail.gmail.com> On 2/8/06, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > No, it is not difficult for _me_. OTOH in the real life I had to > deal, not once and not twice, with some who one would think should > know better but exactly changes in how things are getting mounted > created for them serious obstacles. The examples used in this discussion involved AMANDA. If you are forced to learn enough to use AMANDA effectively... doing a mount on the cli is trivial in comparison....trivial. > > > Last time I checked(3 minutes ago) you > > can do your own mounts as needed no matter what the desktop > > automounter is doing. > > In other words you are telling now that we simply should ignore > automounter. If you are forced to use programs that do not understand how to take advantage of hal and dbus for themselves... yes. Or you could learn to interface with dbus like gnome's automounter does and add that functionality to whatever programs you need. > Maybe a partially good advice but why we needed it > then in the first place? D-E-S-K-T-O-P >This is actually is a pretty bad idea in > case of USB devices as you do not know in advance which device you > will get (it is enough to disconnect and reconnect and it may move) > so your claim that you can edit fstab in advance fails flat on its > face. Learn to interface with hal in your scripted actions. If you want to automate actions regardless of desktop state... learn to use the same infrastructure gnome's automounter uses to assign mountpoints. > > Now assume that a user has a script to scp some files from a USB key > to a remote machine (this is a real life example and even "mission > critical"). We will have tons of fun to handle that. Scripted actions.. should parse the information from hal for itself and do mounts as the script requires for self-consistency. > > Other consequence is that 'eject' command for non-root stops > working. Quite nasty. Even if you "double mounted" your CD then > the other mount is still active and you will not have an access to > it as it is not in fstab. learn about FUSE and get ready for a whole new level of complexity that breaks your historical intepretation of how this is all suppose to work. -jef From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Wed Feb 8 23:03:37 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:03:37 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139394466.3050.28.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139393021.3111.24.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139394466.3050.28.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <43EA78C9.8030300@herakles.homelinux.org> Karsten Fischer wrote: >>Except when you want to use command line. The GUI (Nautilus) worked >>pretty good for normal users (displaying the volume name under the icon) >>previously without the need for such mount point names. >> >>-- >>Tomas Mraz >> > > > Well put. But then, how about having both? Lets say there would exist a > subdirectory within '/media' called devices, in which all devices have > their proper names? On the other hand, it might be a bit complicated, > granted. > I really don't get your point - why shouldn't I use something like > 'ls /media/Doom_for_Linux' instead of 'ls /media/cdrom'? If somebody How does it make your life better? If you're working in a GUI, how does it matter what the mount-point is? In OS X it does not. In Windows it does noe. It matters a lot when working at the commandline. In an earlier post I described how I look at CDs from the commandline. I just looked at my laptop: it has a SUSE CD in it, called "SU1000.004." I like to use one commandline comprising several commands to mount, view, umount and eject. Can't do that if the mount-point keeps changing. > does create an application which is shipped on CD why should the > aforementioned installer fail (like posted in the post earlier)? This > behaviour is completely consistent with Fedora's boot-process (ahem, > within grub, of course), where, instead of an device like '/dev/sda' the > root-device is identified using its label, adding a lot of flexibility > (or, could add, since grub itself needs its own device-map, hope it can > get rid of it :) Not Debian, not SUSE use the ext2 filesystem labels. _I_ found them causing problems for me when I cloned a disk: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc or similar; I found the wrong one being mounted. Try duel-booting two Fedora Cores and/or RHELs. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From kfischer at bfki.net Wed Feb 8 23:05:40 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:05:40 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <43EA7689.5070006@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EA7689.5070006@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <1139439940.2565.1.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 06:54 +0800 schrieb John Summerfied: > Karsten Fischer wrote: > > >> > > > > Why should you? I am pretty comfortable with that right now; but then I > > also use a Mac, where this kind of mounting seems to be quite normal and > > does not cause trouble. Anyway, a mount with the name like "Doom 4 for > > Linux Disk 2 of 2" sounds much more descriptive than "cdrom", now does > > it? > > OS X only has to be like OS X. > > OS X does lots of odd things. OS X isn't a good counterexample. > Ahem...why? From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Wed Feb 8 23:04:41 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:04:41 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <43E9E28C.3090601@feuerpokemon.de> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139393021.3111.24.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139394466.3050.28.camel@video.bfki.net> <43E9E28C.3090601@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <43EA7909.8050408@herakles.homelinux.org> dragoran wrote: > > what about adding a symlink from /media/cdrom to /media/volumename ? > wouldn't break old apps, and thus ho preffer the new behaviour can use it. > What problem does the new behaviour solve? -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Wed Feb 8 23:10:00 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:10:00 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139439940.2565.1.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EA7689.5070006@herakles.homelinux.org> <1139439940.2565.1.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <43EA7A48.30208@herakles.homelinux.org> Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 06:54 +0800 schrieb John Summerfied: > >>Karsten Fischer wrote: >> >> >>>Why should you? I am pretty comfortable with that right now; but then I >>>also use a Mac, where this kind of mounting seems to be quite normal and >>>does not cause trouble. Anyway, a mount with the name like "Doom 4 for >>>Linux Disk 2 of 2" sounds much more descriptive than "cdrom", now does >>>it? >> >>OS X only has to be like OS X. >> >>OS X does lots of odd things. OS X isn't a good counterexample. >> > > > Ahem...why? Because OS X isn't Linux and different rules apply. On OS X, I do things the OS X way. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From alan at clueserver.org Wed Feb 8 23:19:29 2006 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 15:19:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <43EA7909.8050408@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, John Summerfied wrote: > dragoran wrote: > > > > > what about adding a symlink from /media/cdrom to /media/volumename ? > > wouldn't break old apps, and thus ho preffer the new behaviour can use it. > > > > What problem does the new behaviour solve? None that I can see. Nautilus already puts desciptive text on the icon that a gui user would use. A command line user will use tab completion and trial and error to figure out where the data is at. Legacy programs understand a fixed point in the filesystem. Except this symlink would need to be added by the automounter code, as it will have to be created and destroyed by mounts and unmounts. The problem here is not gui v.s. command line. The problem is user v.s. program. A user can figure out (hopefully) where the drive mounted. A program is going to have to have some sort of defined method to find out where the cdrom is at. (Not to mention the security implications of trusting a symlink as a mounted drive. Any sane program would not open a symlink for any removable media.) -- "George W. Bush -- Bringing back the Sixties one Nixon at a time." From michal at harddata.com Wed Feb 8 23:25:03 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 16:25:03 -0700 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602081502o20657d9ct553e7f252329ddf2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081502o20657d9ct553e7f252329ddf2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060208232503.GA4679@mail.harddata.com> On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 06:02:11PM -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/8/06, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > > Maybe a partially good advice but why we needed it > > then in the first place? > D-E-S-K-T-O-P One would think so. But you are effectively telling us here "go back to times when things more-or-less worked but not always if mouse, for whatever reasons, is not desirable". Looks to me like a huge step backwards. You still failed to explain what this particular demented behaviour gains on a desktop despite that many asked. > Learn to interface with hal in your scripted actions. You seem to roundly ignore most what I wrote. Care for examples? Robust ones? Michal From kfischer at bfki.net Wed Feb 8 23:30:53 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:30:53 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 15:22 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > I still scratch my head what you are gaining by mounting removable > media at some pseudo-random locations. They are effectively random > as a volume name is not apparent from a shape of some CD. It may > even be empty. As it was noted on a desktop you have a label with > that volume name anyway. > Ease of use in the end, that is the gain, at least from a certain perspective. And yes, on the desktop the volume label is present. So I really would assume that somewhere in the directory structure this label turns up, so that I can access the given volume without the knowledge about on which physical drive it is actually inserted, it may be my DVD-ROM, my CD-ROM, my DVD-Writer or even some pretty obscure device which might even be as hotpluggable as hell. It simply doesn't make sense to me that a volume on the Desktop appears differently from its real mount point. Everything else is a bit like Windows, where everything seems to be around drive C:\ or D:\ and so on. When I do insert a DVD into the drive I am certainly more interested in its content than its physical appearance. -- Karsten Fischer From jpearson42 at wowway.com Wed Feb 8 23:48:01 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 18:48:01 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <43EA7627.7030104@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <200602081701.07866.jpearson42@wowway.com> <43EA7627.7030104@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <200602081848.01351.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Wednesday 08 February 2006 5:52 pm, John Summerfied wrote: >>... > > Your point is well taken. ?I will have to check, but is controlling the > > volume name, i.e. 'cdrom', sufficient to guarantee a known mount? > > No. > It does not happen that way, with CDs or DVDs, on FC3 or RHEL 4, and > RHEL 4 and before will be here for years to come. Heck, RHL 7.3 is still > around (and supported by Fedora Legacy). My base personal machine is running FC4; but it was originally built, 3 sets of hardware ago, with RH 7.3. The combination dvd player/cdrecorder has always mounted as /media/cdrecorder. The base server machine is running FC3, although the initial deployment was with RH 6.2. The cdrom drive on that machine has been a constant /media/cdrom, since the hardware upgrade that obsoleted 6.2. So maybe I am missing something. -jp From kfischer at bfki.net Wed Feb 8 23:49:07 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:49:07 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <43EA7A48.30208@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EA7689.5070006@herakles.homelinux.org> <1139439940.2565.1.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EA7A48.30208@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <1139442547.2565.32.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 07:10 +0800 schrieb John Summerfied: > > Because OS X isn't Linux and different rules apply. On OS X, I do things > the OS X way. > That doesn't explain a lot, now does it? Things do evolve, and sometimes a change like this could make working with a computer a lot easier for those who have to work with but neither have the time nor the motivation to explore a computers internals. And how should I explain it to a customer: "Yes, of course you see the the CD-ROM and its content on your desktop, and yes, the CD has a descriptive name (label) like "Tax2005", and no, you won't find it within your Filesystem , you have to guess its device..." -- Karsten Fischer From kfischer at bfki.net Thu Feb 9 00:01:12 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 01:01:12 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <200602081848.01351.jpearson42@wowway.com> References: <200602081701.07866.jpearson42@wowway.com> <43EA7627.7030104@herakles.homelinux.org> <200602081848.01351.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: <1139443272.2565.40.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 18:48 -0500 schrieb John Pearson: > On Wednesday 08 February 2006 5:52 pm, John Summerfied wrote: > > >>... > > > Your point is well taken. I will have to check, but is controlling the > > > volume name, i.e. 'cdrom', sufficient to guarantee a known mount? > > > > No. > > It does not happen that way, with CDs or DVDs, on FC3 or RHEL 4, and > > RHEL 4 and before will be here for years to come. Heck, RHL 7.3 is still > > around (and supported by Fedora Legacy). > > My base personal machine is running FC4; but it was originally built, 3 sets > of hardware ago, with RH 7.3. The combination dvd player/cdrecorder has > always mounted as /media/cdrecorder. The base server machine is running FC3, > although the initial deployment was with RH 6.2. The cdrom drive on that > machine has been a constant /media/cdrom, since the hardware upgrade that > obsoleted 6.2. So maybe I am missing something. Well, I do have a very volatile computer-setup. Most, except one, CD/DVD-Drives - and I do have 4-5- as well as several hard-disks are either USB2 or FireWire-Devices. Depending on the use, plug-in some of these and I am more than happy that I can use their Labels instead of figuring out which device was assigned to a one of them. You have to try that one and I promise you will understand my point of view in that area :) -- Karsten Fischer From michal at harddata.com Thu Feb 9 00:04:59 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 17:04:59 -0700 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:30:53AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 15:22 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > > I still scratch my head what you are gaining by mounting removable > > media at some pseudo-random locations. They are effectively random > > as a volume name is not apparent from a shape of some CD. It may > > even be empty. As it was noted on a desktop you have a label with > > that volume name anyway. > > > > Ease of use in the end, that is the gain, at least from a certain > perspective. Specific examples, please. Or you have to be kidding. > so that I can access the given volume without the knowledge > about on which physical drive it is actually inserted, A name of a mountpoint does not change here anything. If you browse through a desktop you simply do not care. But like you were told before - your music player, and score of other programs you would rather not reconfigure with every media change, may care quite a bit. > Everything else is a bit like Windows, where > everything seems to be around drive C:\ or D:\ and so on. This is a very bad joke again. Right? Michal From cmadams at hiwaay.net Thu Feb 9 00:33:07 2006 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 18:33:07 -0600 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602081502o20657d9ct553e7f252329ddf2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081502o20657d9ct553e7f252329ddf2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060209003307.GF1554089@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Jeff Spaleta said: > Learn to interface with hal in your scripted actions. If you want to > automate actions regardless of desktop state... learn to use the same > infrastructure gnome's automounter uses to assign mountpoints. You mean instead of a script doing "cd /media/cdrom", now that script has to interface to hal? Where is the bash interface to hal? What is the gain in this change? Maybe if someone could just explain why this change was made, people would understand. There have been a bunch of people pointing out negatives, but nobody has explained a positive (there's just shouting that the people pointing out negatives are wrong). -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From jim at jbsys.com Thu Feb 9 01:16:37 2006 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 18:16:37 -0700 Subject: Logitech USB QuickCam IM support Message-ID: <00df01c62d16$79b085e0$0a01a8c0@jbsys> Some time ago someone asked about support for USB cameras by Logitech. You can go here: http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html and get the lastest driver. It will be named spca5xx-yearmoday.tar.gz. It is easy to build and install. There is one line of code that needs to be commented out to have a clean compile. At line 8351 in spca5xx.c, the line ".owner = THIS_MODULE, " needs to be commented out. The kernel revision test for 2.6.16 does not work for our kernels. Then do a "make install" as root and reboot the system. You then can use CamStream to display the pictures. The only problem I had was that I had to reboot the system to get the camera to be recognized. Maybe this driver should be added to FC5. Jim From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 02:00:58 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:00:58 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060208232503.GA4679@mail.harddata.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081502o20657d9ct553e7f252329ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <20060208232503.GA4679@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602081800h505ef790ie8f1d8b3e13faf36@mail.gmail.com> On 2/8/06, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > You seem to roundly ignore most what I wrote. Care for examples? > Robust ones? Considering that at the moment.. i can't even confirm on my rawhide synced system.. even with a freshly created test user.. that CD's are in fact mounting via their volume name... no I can not give you robust examples for a problem that I can't actually recreate. Neither my ide cdrecorder and my usb dvdwriter mount via volume name: less /media/ drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Feb 8 20:55 ./ drwxr-xr-x 27 root root 4096 Feb 8 19:38 ../ drwxr-sr-x 3 testuser root 2048 Jan 12 12:03 disk/ <--usb dvd drwxr-sr-x 6 testuser root 4096 Jan 12 12:24 disk-1/ <--ide cdrw drwxr-xr-x 6 testuser root 16384 Dec 31 1969 TOSHIBA256M/ <--- flash card afaict this whole thread is moot currently and doubly moot long term because there is a plan in place to expose configurability via UI to users, gnome-mount-properties would be a sketch of the UI controls being worked on. -jef From rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net Thu Feb 9 03:31:19 2006 From: rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net (Robert Nichols) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 21:31:19 -0600 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060208190422.GC28299@mail.harddata.com> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139393021.3111.24.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139394466.3050.28.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208190422.GC28299@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:27:46AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > >>I really don't get your point - >>why shouldn't I use something like 'ls /media/Doom_for_Linux' >>instead of 'ls /media/cdrom'? > > > First of all this will be > > ls /media/Doom\ 4\ for\ Linux\ Disk\ 2\ of\ 2 > > which is entirely different kettle of fish. The second - when you > will write a script which is automatically and reliably guessing > a name of your latest mount point, and quoting it properly, then let > us know. Many will be interested. It should be interesting to see how well various arbitrary strings that might have been used as a volume name are handled, strings like "Project backups/updates", "gemini:/var/log", "..", or "../usr". Personally, I already have to deal with different systems and OS releases that pick different mount points for my removable media, and as long as I can still use commands like "umount /dev/hdc" and "eject /dev/cdrom1" I don't see the issue affecting me all that much. -- Bob Nichols Yes, "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. From rstrode at redhat.com Thu Feb 9 04:05:49 2006 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:05:49 -0500 Subject: Bling! Message-ID: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> Hi, As some of you may know, Soeren Sandmann, Kristian Hogsberg, Adam Jackson, and Kevin Martin have been working on getting special effects into the desktop. While all their work is in CVS, it's a little hard to set up, so I thought I'd make packages for people who have wanted to try the stuff but haven't wanted to spend a lot of time recompiling everything. Note it's still takes some effort to get a workable setup and for a lot of people things won't work at all. Testing has been mostly done on radeon 7500 (r100) cards. Other cards probably won't work (but you can still try!). Steps to test: 1) get the packages from http://people.redhat.com/rstrode/bling If you point yum to it by creating a repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d, you should be able to do something like: yum install mesa-libGL xorg-x11-server-Xair spififity This will install a specially compiled version of Xorg that supports accelerated indirect rendering which is the key to making the compositing manager have a reasonable frame rate. Eventually these changes will go into the main Xorg package. The above yum install command will also install a version of metacity with its compositing manager code turned on. I called the package spififity so that we can parallel install it with the non-compositing manager version of metacity. 2) Configure gdm to use the accelerated indirect compiled version of Xorg. You can probably do something like: sed -i -e 's/Xorg/Xair/g' /usr/share/gdm/config/gdm.conf-custom to make that happen. 3) Configure your X server to not use offscreen pixmaps. Strictly speaking this step is optional, but it should dramatically increase performance. You can do that by adding Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" to the "Device" section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. Some people have reported that this option actually breaks things for them, so you may have to try it with and without. 4) Configure your X server to enable the composite extension. You can do that by adding Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" EndSection to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf 5) restart gdm. 6) Log into GNOME, press alt-f2 to get a run dialog to come up and then type spififity --replace and press enter. At this point you may see drops shadows, fading menus and wobbly minimization effects or your system may freeze or one followed by the other. If you see drop shadows and a bunch of solid white windows, you probably aren't running the right X server. Make sure you're running Xair and not Xorg. If after using things for a while all your window borders disappear, you may have better luck by setting the METACITY_SYNC environment variable to 1 and rerunning spififity. Setting the environment variable incurs a minor performance hit, but it will also mask a lingering bug in the compositing manager code. Things are still quite raw, so expect things to crash, your system to lock up, effects to be unpolished, etc. --Ray From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 9 04:21:49 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:21:49 -0800 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <1139458910.16582.9.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:05 -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > > 1) get the packages from http://people.redhat.com/rstrode/bling > If you point yum to it by creating a repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d, you > should be able to do something like: This should be http://people.redhat.com/rstrode/bling/$basearch -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From justin.conover at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 04:29:55 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:29:55 -0600 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139458910.16582.9.camel@ender> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139458910.16582.9.camel@ender> Message-ID: On 2/8/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:05 -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > > > > 1) get the packages from http://people.redhat.com/rstrode/bling > > If you point yum to it by creating a repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d, you > > should be able to do something like: > > This should be http://people.redhat.com/rstrode/bling/$basearch > > -- > Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) > Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) > GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQBD6sNd4v2HLvE71NURAu8SAJ90WXvWuxZ4PIjCbGTul9TiVTNZSQCgnLKx > UiB1ai9Q0LGYPy0RKTMvZJ0= > =Litk > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > First victim to try and fail :) cat spififity.sh #!/bin/bash METACITY_USE_LOGFILE=1 METACITY_VERBOSE=1 METACITY_SYNC=1 spififity --replace $ sh spififity.sh Opened log file /tmp/metacity-6320-debug-log-KGfE0w Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". spififity.sh: line 2: 6320 Trace/breakpoint trap METACITY_USE_LOGFILE=1 METACITY_VERBOSE=1 METACITY_SYNC=1 spififity --replace /tmp/meta* attached. 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In-Reply-To: References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139458910.16582.9.camel@ender> Message-ID: On 2/8/06, Justin Conover wrote: > > > > On 2/8/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:05 -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > > > > > > 1) get the packages from http://people.redhat.com/rstrode/bling > > > If you point yum to it by creating a repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d, > > you > > > should be able to do something like: > > > > This should be http://people.redhat.com/rstrode/bling/$basearch > > > > -- > > Jesse Keating RHCE ( geek.j2solutions.net) > > Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) > > GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub ) > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQBD6sNd4v2HLvE71NURAu8SAJ90WXvWuxZ4PIjCbGTul9TiVTNZSQCgnLKx > > UiB1ai9Q0LGYPy0RKTMvZJ0= > > =Litk > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > First victim to try and fail :) > > cat spififity.sh > #!/bin/bash > METACITY_USE_LOGFILE=1 METACITY_VERBOSE=1 METACITY_SYNC=1 spififity > --replace > > $ sh spififity.sh > Opened log file /tmp/metacity-6320-debug-log-KGfE0w > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > spififity.sh: line 2: 6320 Trace/breakpoint trap METACITY_USE_LOGFILE=1 > METACITY_VERBOSE=1 METACITY_SYNC=1 spififity --replace > > /tmp/meta* attached. > > Not sure I understand why GLX is missing? I do have the "closed nvidia > drivers" running. (maybe not correctly from the looks of it) > > Oh, I should mention that it sort of works ;) I do get some drop shadow effects but before I run it, on one screen (twinview) I have 2 terminals open and the left screen has firefox open. They lock in place and wont move and gnome-panel does disappear. metacity --replace Brings me back to normal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin.conover at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 04:43:45 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:43:45 -0600 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139458910.16582.9.camel@ender> Message-ID: On 2/8/06, Justin Conover wrote: > > > > On 2/8/06, Justin Conover wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2/8/06, Jesse Keating < jkeating at j2solutions.net> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:05 -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > > > > > > > > 1) get the packages from http://people.redhat.com/rstrode/bling > > > > If you point yum to it by creating a repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d, > > > you > > > > should be able to do something like: > > > > > > This should be http://people.redhat.com/rstrode/bling/$basearch > > > > > > -- > > > Jesse Keating RHCE ( geek.j2solutions.net) > > > Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) > > > GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub > > > ) > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > iD8DBQBD6sNd4v2HLvE71NURAu8SAJ90WXvWuxZ4PIjCbGTul9TiVTNZSQCgnLKx > > > UiB1ai9Q0LGYPy0RKTMvZJ0= > > > =Litk > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > -- > > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > To unsubscribe: > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > > > First victim to try and fail :) > > > > cat spififity.sh > > #!/bin/bash > > METACITY_USE_LOGFILE=1 METACITY_VERBOSE=1 METACITY_SYNC=1 spififity > > --replace > > > > $ sh spififity.sh > > Opened log file /tmp/metacity-6320-debug-log-KGfE0w > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > > spififity.sh: line 2: 6320 Trace/breakpoint trap > > METACITY_USE_LOGFILE=1 METACITY_VERBOSE=1 METACITY_SYNC=1 spififity > > --replace > > > > /tmp/meta* attached. > > > > Not sure I understand why GLX is missing? I do have the "closed nvidia > > drivers" running. (maybe not correctly from the looks of it) > > > > > Oh, I should mention that it sort of works ;) > > I do get some drop shadow effects but before I run it, on one screen > (twinview) I have 2 terminals open and the left screen has firefox open. > They lock in place and wont move and gnome-panel does disappear. > > metacity --replace > > Brings me back to normal Alright, still broke but I verified I am using Xair, by rm /usr/bin/X ln -s /usr/binXair /usr/bin/X X -version Didn't seem to show a change so I just did it that way for now, easy to change back. Guess I need to figure out why GLX isn't working right atm. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mclasen at redhat.com Thu Feb 9 04:43:51 2006 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:43:51 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139458910.16582.9.camel@ender> Message-ID: <1139460231.2784.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 22:32 -0600, Justin Conover wrote: > > Not sure I understand why GLX is missing? I do have the > "closed nvidia drivers" running. (maybe not correctly from the > looks of it) > Ray should have probably mentioned that these rpms are known not to work with nvidia cards at this time. This is because the compositing manager in spififity relies on a new X extension that is not supported by the the nvidia drivers. Matthias From rstrode at redhat.com Thu Feb 9 04:45:27 2006 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:45:27 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139458910.16582.9.camel@ender> Message-ID: <1139460328.7252.59.camel@halflap> Hi, > Not sure I understand why GLX is missing? I do have the "closed > nvidia drivers" running. (maybe not correctly from the looks of it) Sorry. I should have mentioned this won't work with nvidia at all at this point. The closed drivers are missing a needed extension, and the open drivers don't have 3d, I think. --Ray From netwiz at crc.id.au Thu Feb 9 04:47:32 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 15:47:32 +1100 (EST) Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139460231.2784.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139458910.16582.9.camel@ender> <1139460231.2784.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <22023.192.94.41.42.1139460452.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 22:32 -0600, Justin Conover wrote: > >> >> Not sure I understand why GLX is missing? I do have the >> "closed nvidia drivers" running. (maybe not correctly from the >> looks of it) >> > > Ray should have probably mentioned that these rpms are known not to > work with nvidia cards at this time. This is because the compositing > manager in spififity relies on a new X extension that is not supported > by the the nvidia drivers. I guess the ATI drivers are in the same boat as this? From tsimi at speakeasy.net Thu Feb 9 04:47:09 2006 From: tsimi at speakeasy.net (tsimi at speakeasy.net) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:47:09 +0000 Subject: X11 Locking up Message-ID: I'm running FC5t2 on an Dual Core Pentium w/ASUS MB and NVIDIA GeForce 6600 vid card. While working the screen will periodically lockup. The only 2 things I can do is CTRL-ALT-BKSP or ALT-F#. If I ALT-F# first, and then return to ALT-F7, I'm completely locked-up and have to press reset. Any Ideas? Todd From justin.conover at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 04:47:29 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:47:29 -0600 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139460328.7252.59.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139458910.16582.9.camel@ender> <1139460328.7252.59.camel@halflap> Message-ID: On 2/8/06, Ray Strode wrote: > > Hi, > > > Not sure I understand why GLX is missing? I do have the "closed > > nvidia drivers" running. (maybe not correctly from the looks of it) > Sorry. I should have mentioned this won't work with nvidia at all at > this point. > > The closed drivers are missing a needed extension, and the open drivers > don't have 3d, I think. > > --Ray > > grep GLX Xorg.0.log (II) Loading extension GLX (II) Loading extension NV-GLX (EE) GLX is not supported with the Composite extension Yeah, just found that out, what a bummer ;( Well, I'll try it on my laptop with an ati card tomorrow. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tsimi at speakeasy.net Thu Feb 9 04:50:08 2006 From: tsimi at speakeasy.net (tsimi at speakeasy.net) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:50:08 +0000 Subject: Clock still runs fast Message-ID: Hi again, I'm running FC5t2 on a Dual Core Pentium and still have to use "noapic" on the boot line to keep the clock from running very very fast. It will gain weeks in a day or two. I've notice the problem up to 2.6.15-1.1884, I've just updated to 2.6.15-1.1915, so I'll see what that does. Todd From tsimi at speakeasy.net Thu Feb 9 04:56:46 2006 From: tsimi at speakeasy.net (tsimi at speakeasy.net) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:56:46 +0000 Subject: Right click menu Message-ID: Hi again, I see that gnome-terminal is no longer on the menu when you right click on the desktop. Is their someplace I can put that back. I use it quite alot. Thanks Todd From justin.conover at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 05:13:00 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 23:13:00 -0600 Subject: rawhide install feb 02 2006 (http) Message-ID: Grabbed boot.iso today for a test install, anaconda looks real nice, everything is working and was detected so far. One problem was yum # yum update Options Error: Error parsing 'gpgkey': URL must be http, ftp, file or https not "" Which is caused by /etc/yum.repos.d/anaconda.repo There is actually 3 errors in the file gpgkey = [' http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora' ] mirrorlist = None proxy = None changed to gpgkey= http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora #mirrorlist = None #proxy = None Works fine now. However I wonder if this should actually even be here, looks like it was used during http-install and then stayed behind, when maybe it should have gone away. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: anaconda.repo Type: application/octet-stream Size: 517 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gnomeuser at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 05:16:11 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:16:11 +0100 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> ons, 08 02 2006 kl. 23:05 -0500, skrev Ray Strode: When trying to run this I get the following error message: spififity: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied according to Google this is because there are known textrels in the DSO and chcon system_u:object_r:texrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 should fix it, however it doesn't. Anyone have an idea as to an easy fix? - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From justin.conover at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 05:20:28 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 23:20:28 -0600 Subject: rawhide install feb 02 2006 (http) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/8/06, Justin Conover wrote: > > Grabbed boot.iso today for a test install, anaconda looks real nice, > everything is working and was detected so far. > > One problem was yum > > # yum update > Options Error: Error parsing 'gpgkey': URL must be http, ftp, file or > https not "" > > > Which is caused by /etc/yum.repos.d/anaconda.repo > > There is actually 3 errors in the file > > gpgkey = ['http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora' > ] > mirrorlist = None > proxy = None > > changed to > > gpgkey=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora > #mirrorlist = None > #proxy = None > > Works fine now. > > However I wonder if this should actually even be here, looks like it was > used during http-install and then stayed behind, when maybe it should have > gone away. > > Oh, I did do a customized install and went pretty minimal just for install bandwith (gnome/base) Are some of the group data messed up? yum groupinstall "Development Tools" rpm -qa kernel\* kernel-2.6.15-1.1915_FC5 yum info kernel-devel Name : kernel-devel Arch : i686 Version: 2.6.15 Release: 1.1915_FC5 Size : 4.6 M Repo : development Summary: Development package for building kernel modules to match the kernel. 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Jeremy From michal at harddata.com Thu Feb 9 05:28:25 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:28:25 -0700 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139393021.3111.24.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139394466.3050.28.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208190422.GC28299@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <20060209052825.GA11694@mail.harddata.com> On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 09:31:19PM -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: .... > and as long as I can still use commands like "umount /dev/hdc" This possibly you can - IF you will edit your /etc/fstab and add a corresponding entry unless you plan to do that only as root. In this particular case you are lucky because /dev/hdc is not likely to change. But even here this is doubtful as changing mountpoints may get you. 'gnome-mount -e -d /dev/hdc', when gnome-mount is available, possibly may tide you over. OTOH with USB devices things are not that simple as devices may get assigned differently on every connection so you will have problems. > and "eject /dev/cdrom1" Chances are that this will not work. Surely not a bare-bones 'eject' even if you have only one CD device. If mountpoints will change then in general you cannot guess in advance how a corresponding /etc/fstab line is supposed to look. > I don't see the issue affecting me all that much. It looks like that it might affect you quite a bit. Especially if you have programs which are not used for hunting for their data on removable media in unspecified locations. OTOH this whole interface is apparently still in flux. Michal From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 9 05:30:20 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:30:20 -0500 Subject: rawhide install feb 02 2006 (http) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1139463020.17615.15.camel@bree.local.net> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:25 -0600, Justin Conover wrote: > Also, hardlink doesn't get installed with "Development Tools" or just > yum install kernel-devel isn't that also a requirment? No longer a requirement, just used if its present. With the installonlyn plugin, you don't end up with more than 2 kernel-devel packages at which point the tradeoff for time to hardlink vs space saved isn't as clearly a win in all cases Jeremy From justin.conover at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 05:33:49 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 23:33:49 -0600 Subject: rawhide install feb 02 2006 (http) In-Reply-To: <1139463020.17615.15.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1139463020.17615.15.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: On 2/8/06, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:25 -0600, Justin Conover wrote: > > Also, hardlink doesn't get installed with "Development Tools" or just > > yum install kernel-devel isn't that also a requirment? > > No longer a requirement, just used if its present. With the > installonlyn plugin, you don't end up with more than 2 kernel-devel > packages at which point the tradeoff for time to hardlink vs space saved > isn't as clearly a win in all cases > > Jeremy > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Ok, apparently I'm still stuck in the past :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 9 05:38:12 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 21:38:12 -0800 Subject: Right click menu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1139463493.2659.0.camel@ender> On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 04:56 +0000, tsimi at speakeasy.net wrote: > Hi again, > > I see that gnome-terminal is no longer on the menu when you right click on the desktop. Is their someplace I can put that back. I use it quite alot. > > Thanks > Todd > > > nautilus-open-terminal -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From netwiz at crc.id.au Thu Feb 9 05:40:24 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:40:24 +1100 (EST) Subject: Right click menu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39900.192.94.41.42.1139463624.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> > I see that gnome-terminal is no longer on the menu when you right click on > the desktop. Is their someplace I can put that back. I use it quite > alot. While we're on the topic of annoying things, is there a way to make the icons on the desktop 'auto-arrange'? I have one icon that I have to reposition everytime I log into gnome... I also have to close a nautilus file browser window every time I login :| Not huge things, but damn annoying :| I'm not saving my session each time I logout, maybe that is the issue? I really want to be able to login, have gkrellm load, have the icons in a nice place, and not have anything else open - even if I did when I logged out last time. From michal at harddata.com Thu Feb 9 05:48:09 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:48:09 -0700 Subject: brazilian (supposedly anti-)spam Message-ID: <20060209054809.GB11694@mail.harddata.com> I got one more of those lovely messages from eorgan945.sspam at uol.com.br and decided to look closer what spamassassin has to say about it as that junk scores 4.9 points, i.e. reasonably high. Here is what spamassassin has to say: tests=AWL,BAYES_50, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,MIME_HTML_ONLY,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,SPF_PASS Get your own conclusions. Michal From phorst at speakeasy.net Thu Feb 9 06:00:22 2006 From: phorst at speakeasy.net (Peter Horst) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:00:22 -0600 Subject: fc-test2 installation question Message-ID: <43EADA76.2000004@speakeasy.net> This may be a bit generic of a question - I hope it's sufficiently on-topic. Here's the situation: I'm trying to install Fedora Core Test 2 (386) on a PII-450 machine that's currently loaded with Debian (stable). I'm using files that I downloaded via torrent, SHA-1 checksummed, then loaded onto CD-Rs. The machine is configured to boot first from the cd-rom drive, but when I reboot with a CD-R in the drive I invariably go right to the Grub (1.5) boot menu. What am I doing wrong? Thank much. From gnomeuser at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 06:05:34 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:05:34 +0100 Subject: brazilian (supposedly anti-)spam In-Reply-To: <20060209054809.GB11694@mail.harddata.com> References: <20060209054809.GB11694@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1139465134.1857.0.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> ons, 08 02 2006 kl. 22:48 -0700, skrev Michal Jaegermann: > I got one more of those lovely messages from > eorgan945.sspam at uol.com.br and decided to look closer what > spamassassin has to say about it as that junk scores 4.9 points, > i.e. reasonably high. Here is what spamassassin has to say: > > tests=AWL,BAYES_50, > DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,HTML_MESSAGE, > HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,MIME_HTML_ONLY,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,SPF_PASS I rate it +5 for ASSHAT - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From rc040203 at freenet.de Thu Feb 9 07:29:58 2006 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:29:58 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139442547.2565.32.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EA7689.5070006@herakles.homelinux.org> <1139439940.2565.1.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EA7A48.30208@herakles.homelinux.org> <1139442547.2565.32.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <1139470198.1084.162.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 00:49 +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 07:10 +0800 schrieb John Summerfied: > > > > > Because OS X isn't Linux and different rules apply. On OS X, I do things > > the OS X way. > > > > That doesn't explain a lot, now does it? Things do evolve, Not always to the better, as this and other examples of usability regressions in GNOME (Nautilus, Evolution) clearly demonstrate. To me this is a temporary feature wart, which hopefully will vanish soon. > And how should I explain it to a > customer: "Yes, of course you see the the CD-ROM and its content on your > desktop, and yes, the CD has a descriptive name (label) like "Tax2005", > and no, you won't find it within your Filesystem , you have to guess its > device..." You are mixing up medium with contents. Both a separate topics. Ralf From kfischer at bfki.net Thu Feb 9 09:03:33 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:03:33 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 17:04 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:30:53AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 15:22 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > > > > I still scratch my head what you are gaining by mounting removable > > > media at some pseudo-random locations. They are effectively random > > > as a volume name is not apparent from a shape of some CD. It may > > > even be empty. As it was noted on a desktop you have a label with > > > that volume name anyway. > > > > > > > Ease of use in the end, that is the gain, at least from a certain > > perspective. > > Specific examples, please. Or you have to be kidding. Easily. I put in a media called "Tax2005" and its is mounted on /media/Tax2005, regardless of which drive (DVD-ROM,CD-ROM,DVD/CD-Writer, CD-Writer) I use. And no, I'm certainly not kidding. -- Karsten FIscher From kfischer at bfki.net Thu Feb 9 09:15:28 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:15:28 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060209003307.GF1554089@hiwaay.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081502o20657d9ct553e7f252329ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <20060209003307.GF1554089@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1139476528.2565.58.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 18:33 -0600 schrieb Chris Adams: > What is the gain in this change? Maybe if someone could just explain > why this change was made, people would understand. There have been a > bunch of people pointing out negatives, but nobody has explained a > positive (there's just shouting that the people pointing out negatives > are wrong). Consistency. Having a descriptive label on the desktop, like "Graphics November 2005", and find it within your filesystem instead the rather cryptic /media/cdrom, or, if you have multiple drives, /media/cdrom0, /media/cdrom1 and so on; a naming convention which isn't very intuitive. And, just for the records, I haven't read one message where somebody is "shouting that the people pointing out negatives are wrong". But that's hardly the point, is it? By the way, since I am definitely not a computer specialist, might it be possible to have it both ways? -- Karsten Fischer From rc040203 at freenet.de Thu Feb 9 09:29:12 2006 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:29:12 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <1139477352.1084.170.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 10:03 +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 17:04 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:30:53AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 15:22 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > > > > > > I still scratch my head what you are gaining by mounting removable > > > > media at some pseudo-random locations. They are effectively random > > > > as a volume name is not apparent from a shape of some CD. It may > > > > even be empty. As it was noted on a desktop you have a label with > > > > that volume name anyway. > > > > > > > > > > Ease of use in the end, that is the gain, at least from a certain > > > perspective. > > > > Specific examples, please. Or you have to be kidding. > > Easily. I put in a media called "Tax2005" and its is mounted > on /media/Tax2005, regardless of which drive > (DVD-ROM,CD-ROM,DVD/CD-Writer, CD-Writer) I use. > > And no, I'm certainly not kidding. And what would this kind of be useful for? With all due respect, displaying a directory under a different name than it's physical file name is annoying enough, but mounting physical media under different names is mere non-sense, IMNSHO. Ralf From kfischer at bfki.net Thu Feb 9 09:57:47 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:57:47 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139470198.1084.162.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EA7689.5070006@herakles.homelinux.org> <1139439940.2565.1.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EA7A48.30208@herakles.homelinux.org> <1139442547.2565.32.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139470198.1084.162.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> Message-ID: <1139479068.2657.13.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 08:29 +0100 schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > > And how should I explain it to a > > customer: "Yes, of course you see the the CD-ROM and its content on your > > desktop, and yes, the CD has a descriptive name (label) like "Tax2005", > > and no, you won't find it within your Filesystem , you have to guess its > > device..." > You are mixing up medium with contents. Both a separate topics. Do I? Lets have a look. The content is the data on the CD, correct? The medium is the CD, still right? The CD-Drive is just a means of getting the content from the medium. There is a huge difference between going to a newsstand and ask for a newspaper and going to a newsstand and ask for, let's say, the New York Times. -- Karsten Fischer From kfischer at bfki.net Thu Feb 9 09:58:03 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:58:03 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139477352.1084.170.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139477352.1084.170.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> Message-ID: <1139479083.2657.15.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 10:29 +0100 schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > With all due respect, displaying a directory under a different name than > it's physical file name is annoying enough, but mounting physical media > under different names is mere non-sense, IMNSHO. Sorry, I don't seem to understand. My aforementioned CD (the physical media) called "Tax2005" will - as of now - always be mounted as /media/Tax2005 - only if I would create a new one, calling it "Tax2005-Part2", it would mounted elsewhere, but then the physical media HAS changed. The difference between our positions seems to be that you are referring to the CD-Drive as the physical media and I refer to the actual CD as the physical media. -- Karsten Fischer From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Thu Feb 9 10:04:10 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:04:10 +0100 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139458910.16582.9.camel@ender> <1139460328.7252.59.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <43EB139A.3000505@feuerpokemon.de> Justin Conover wrote: > > > On 2/8/06, *Ray Strode* > wrote: > > Hi, > > > Not sure I understand why GLX is missing? I do have the "closed > > nvidia drivers" running. (maybe not correctly from the looks of it) > Sorry. I should have mentioned this won't work with nvidia at all at > this point. > > The closed drivers are missing a needed extension, and the open > drivers > don't have 3d, I think. > > --Ray > > grep GLX Xorg.0.log > (II) Loading extension GLX > (II) Loading extension NV-GLX > (EE) GLX is not supported with the Composite extension > > > Yeah, just found that out, what a bummer ;( > > Well, I'll try it on my laptop with an ati card tomorrow. > adding Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "1" to your device section might help From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Thu Feb 9 10:21:23 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:21:23 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43EB17A3.1030707@feuerpokemon.de> alan wrote: >On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, John Summerfied wrote: > > > >>dragoran wrote: >> >> >> >>>what about adding a symlink from /media/cdrom to /media/volumename ? >>>wouldn't break old apps, and thus ho preffer the new behaviour can use it. >>> >>> >>> >>What problem does the new behaviour solve? >> >> > >None that I can see. Nautilus already puts desciptive text on the icon >that a gui user would use. A command line user will use tab completion >and trial and error to figure out where the data is at. Legacy programs >understand a fixed point in the filesystem. > >Except this symlink would need to be added by the automounter code, as it >will have to be created and destroyed by mounts and unmounts. > >The problem here is not gui v.s. command line. The problem is user v.s. >program. > >A user can figure out (hopefully) where the drive mounted. A program is >going to have to have some sort of defined method to find out where the >cdrom is at. (Not to mention the security implications of trusting a >symlink as a mounted drive. Any sane program would not open a symlink for >any removable media.) > > > then use the old mount points and add a link /media/volume -> /media/cdromX Those how prefer /media/volume would not care if it is a symlink or not. A desktop user would either click on the desktop icon or on the icon in computer:/// so they don't have to care about mount points anyway. So where is the point in having /media/volume ? It makes more problems than it solves (if any) From alan at redhat.com Thu Feb 9 10:38:28 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 05:38:28 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139479083.2657.15.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139477352.1084.170.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> <1139479083.2657.15.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <20060209103828.GC29824@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > The difference between our positions seems to be that you are referring > to the CD-Drive as the physical media and I refer to the actual CD as > the physical media. I wish it were so simple (and I mostly agree with the above), but CD labels are not unique. In fact all the Fedora CDs generally have the same label From netwiz at crc.id.au Thu Feb 9 10:46:40 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 21:46:40 +1100 (EST) Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060209103828.GC29824@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139477352.1084.170.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> <1139479083.2657.15.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209103828.GC29824@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <26272.192.94.41.42.1139482000.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: >> The difference between our positions seems to be that you are referring >> to the CD-Drive as the physical media and I refer to the actual CD as >> the physical media. > > I wish it were so simple (and I mostly agree with the above), but CD > labels > are not unique. In fact all the Fedora CDs generally have the same label I can actually see the benefit to both of these... Hows this for an idea: 1) Use a static mount point in /mnt 2) Change the GUI portion of things to report the media volume name (not the mountpoint) 3) maybe also place a link /media The way I see it, /mnt is for physical devices - however /media is related to the concept of what I put in the drive vs the physical hardware. From monty19 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 9 11:31:46 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 20:31:46 +0900 Subject: kernel-xen-hypervisor and Gnome/GStreamer Volume Control Message-ID: The volume control is reporting: "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured. You can remove the volume control from the panel by right-clicking the speaker icon on the panel and selecting "Remove From Panel" from the menu." kernel-xen-hypervisor-2.6.15-1.43_FC5 is installed. Everything works normally with kernel-2.6.15-1.1915_FC5 (and all previous kernels) The card is (correctly) identified as an ESS ES1983S-3i card using sound module snd-maestro3. The modules are loaded and I can see them when doing lsmod while running kernel-xen-hypervisor-2.6.15-1.43_FC5, but cannot get any sound output. Cpl Montleon USMC From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu Feb 9 11:44:57 2006 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:44:57 -0500 Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? Message-ID: <43EB2B39.1050106@rogers.com> Has anyone gotten VMWare Workstation working under FC5T2? I'm getting the following problem where the config script is telling me that the headers are incorrect. Does anyone have a way around this? Thanks Trying to find a suitable vmmon module for your running kernel. None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable for your running kernel. Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? [yes] Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override. What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory. What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/src/kernels/2.6.15-1.1915_FC5-smp-i686/include The kernel defined by this directory of header files does not have the same address space size as your running kernel. What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] From tjikkun at xs4all.nl Thu Feb 9 12:03:45 2006 From: tjikkun at xs4all.nl (Sander Hoentjen) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:03:45 +0100 Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? In-Reply-To: <43EB2B39.1050106@rogers.com> References: <43EB2B39.1050106@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1139486626.4112.34.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> No but I do have VMware server running, maybe you can try that instead? Sander On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 06:44 -0500, Dwaine Garden wrote: > Has anyone gotten VMWare Workstation working under FC5T2? I'm getting > the following problem where the config script is telling me > that the headers are incorrect. Does anyone have a way around this? > > Thanks > > Trying to find a suitable vmmon module for your running kernel. > > None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable > for your > running kernel. Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon > module for > your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? [yes] > > Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override. > > What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your > running > kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] > > The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory. > > What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your > running > kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] > /usr/src/kernels/2.6.15-1.1915_FC5-smp-i686/include > > The kernel defined by this directory of header files does not have the same > address space size as your running kernel. > > What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your > running > kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] > From fedora at westexe.demon.co.uk Thu Feb 9 13:22:34 2006 From: fedora at westexe.demon.co.uk (James Wilkinson) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:22:34 +0000 Subject: fc-test2 installation question In-Reply-To: <43EADA76.2000004@speakeasy.net> References: <43EADA76.2000004@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <20060209132234.GA7006@westexe.demon.co.uk> Peter Horst wrote: > This may be a bit generic of a question - I hope it's sufficiently > on-topic. Here's the situation: I'm trying to install Fedora Core Test 2 > (386) on a PII-450 machine that's currently loaded with Debian (stable). > I'm using files that I downloaded via torrent, SHA-1 checksummed, then > loaded onto CD-Rs. The machine is configured to boot first from the > cd-rom drive, but when I reboot with a CD-R in the drive I invariably go > right to the Grub (1.5) boot menu. What am I doing wrong? As you suspect, this isn't really related to the fact you're loading a test release. There are two possibilities: somehow the disks haven't been burned properly, or you're having problems with the CD drive on a computer that old. You can check the first option by trying to boot from them on another computer. For the second option -- how long does it take for your CD drive to recognise that there's a CD-R in the drive? If you're booted into Windows, can you hear the drive spin up? Does the drive LED come on? How long does it stay on? My experience is that many CD drives take longer to recognise that there's a bootable CD-R in the drive (or, worse a bootable CD-R/W) than the BIOS will wait to see if you can boot from the disk. One way around the latter is to see if you can make the BIOS check the CD drive while the CD is spinning. Doing this involves inserting the disc at precisely the right time. How you do that is up to you -- you may find that rebooting with the drive tray open does it, or opening and closing the drive tray immediately after boot, or rebooting from the BIOS menu. Good luck! James. -- E-mail address: james | The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily @westexe.demon.co.uk | those of my employer, are not necessarily mine, and in | fact are probably not necessary at all... From tbrinkman at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 9 13:53:45 2006 From: tbrinkman at sbcglobal.net (Tom Brinkman) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 07:53:45 -0600 Subject: Clock still runs fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200602090753.45539.tbrinkman@sbcglobal.net> On Wednesday 08 February 2006 22:50, tsimi at speakeasy.net wrote: > Hi again, > > I'm running FC5t2 on a Dual Core Pentium and still have to use > "noapic" on the boot line to keep the clock from running very very > fast. It will gain weeks in a day or two. I've notice the problem > up to 2.6.15-1.1884, I've just updated to 2.6.15-1.1915, so I'll > see what that does. > > Todd Not a solution, but I don't believe apic is enabled by default in the 'stock' kernels. I've only been usin FC5-tx (updated daily) for a few weeks after movin from Mandriva cooker. Out of curiosity, one'a the first things I explored was the kernel configs (IE, default settings) and dmesg boot results. ~ $ kcfg apic 2.6.15-1.1915_FC5 CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC_DEFAULT_OFF=y <====== CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y ... all previous kernels back to FC5-t2 install were the same. Also i686, acpi, preempt_voluntary, an 4gb mem addressing default enabled. Havin used both acpi an apic together for years for IRQ's, I enabled apic kernel parameter; ~ $ kdmesg apic 2.6.15-1.1915_FC5 ACPI: Local APIC enabled (1). ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000 ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled) Processor #0 6:10 APIC version 16 ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1]) ACPI: Skipping IOAPIC probe due to 'noapic' option. Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/hdb1 lapic <====== Found and enabled local APIC! <====== mapped APIC to ffffd000 (fee00000) PCI: Bypassing VIA 8237 APIC De-Assert Message (alias kcfg='uname -r && cat /boot/config-`uname -r` |grep -i') (alias kdmesg='uname -r && cat /var/log/dmesg |grep -i') -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas From misha at mishakononov.com Thu Feb 9 14:18:30 2006 From: misha at mishakononov.com (Misha Kononov) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:18:30 -0500 Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 24, Issue 46 In-Reply-To: <20060209054821.86F8173575@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060209054821.86F8173575@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43EB4F36.4080709@mishakononov.com> On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:16:11 +0100, David Nielsen wrote: > When trying to run this I get the following error message: > > spififity: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot > enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied > Ran into this issue with an unrelated program. It's obviously an SELinux issue -- the only way I could find around it was to modify the SELinux policy and enable "Allow executables to run with executable stack". Misha From nalin at redhat.com Thu Feb 9 14:35:17 2006 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:35:17 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <20060209143517.GA981@redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 06:16:11AM +0100, David Nielsen wrote: > ons, 08 02 2006 kl. 23:05 -0500, skrev Ray Strode: > > When trying to run this I get the following error message: > > spififity: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot > enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied > > according to Google this is because there are known textrels in the DSO > and > chcon system_u:object_r:texrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 > > should fix it, however it doesn't. > > Anyone have an idea as to an easy fix? Try "setsebool allow_execstack 1". This will take effect until you reboot. HTH, Nalin From selinux at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 14:40:42 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 06:40:42 -0800 Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? In-Reply-To: <1139486626.4112.34.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> References: <43EB2B39.1050106@rogers.com> <1139486626.4112.34.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602090640t312aa975y78a170c4b3e4c362@mail.gmail.com> There is a bug in the vmware-config.pl script that is exposed by changes to the newer kernel headers. I've reported this to vmware: http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=31877&tstart=0 Here is the patch described there: --- vmware-config.pl.old 2005-12-15 21:55:24.000000000 -0800 +++ vmware-config.pl 2006-02-04 16:53:06.000000000 -0800 @@ -1969,8 +1969,8 @@ . ' -E - | ' . shell_string($gHelper{'grep'}) . ' ' . shell_string($pattern)); chomp($header_page_offset); - $header_page_offset =~ s/^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,}).*$/$1/; - if ($header_page_offset =~ /[0-9a-fA-F]{8,}/) { + if ($header_page_offset =~ /^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,})/) { + $header_page_offset = $1; # We found a valid page offset if (defined($gSystem{'page_offset'}) and not (lc($header_page_offset) eq lc($gSystem{'page_offset'}))) { BTW, if you have not already done so, you may also need to make minor changes in the makefiles that get run by vmware-config.pl. Described in vmware discussion group here: http://www.vmware.com/community/message.jspa?messageID=337443#337443 [You'll know you'll need to do this if vmware-config.pl compiles fail....] Hope this helps, tom From MWeiner at ag.com Thu Feb 9 14:43:19 2006 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:43:19 -0500 Subject: yum update Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DD434@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> trying to yum update my fc5t2 (at least I think its t2, lol) Rawhide server this morning and getting the following dep error: ---> Package libnl.i386 0:1.0-0.7.pre5.1 set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: libtix8.1.8.4.so for package: tkinter --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: libtix8.1.8.4.so is needed by package tkinter any way around this one? i have tried --exclude=emacspeak, but i continually get this dep error. Any ideas? Thanks in advance Michael Weiner From MWeiner at ag.com Thu Feb 9 14:53:23 2006 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:53:23 -0500 Subject: yum update Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DD44F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of MW Mike Weiner (5028) > trying to yum update my fc5t2 (at least I think its t2, lol) Rawhide server this > morning and getting the following dep error: > ---> Package libnl.i386 0:1.0-0.7.pre5.1 set to be updated > --> Running transaction check > --> Processing Dependency: libtix8.1.8.4.so for package: tkinter > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: libtix8.1.8.4.so is needed by package tkinter > any way around this one? i have tried --exclude=emacspeak, but i continually get > this dep error. > Any ideas? NM - I think I got it --exclude=tix=\* seemed to get me around the issue, though I need to investigate a little more. Thanks anyway, sorry for the wasted bandwidth Michael Weiner From gajownik at fedora.pl Thu Feb 9 15:06:33 2006 From: gajownik at fedora.pl (Dawid Gajownik) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:06:33 +0100 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <43EB5A79.2080703@fedora.pl> Dnia 02/09/2006 06:17 AM, U?ytkownik David Nielsen napisa?: > spififity: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot > enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied > > according to Google this is because there are known textrels in the DSO > and > chcon system_u:object_r:texrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 You confused text relocations with executable stack. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178262 Nalin showed you the proper workaround :) -- ^_* From buildsys at redhat.com Thu Feb 9 15:07:51 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 10:07:51 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060209 changes (part 1/2) Message-ID: <200602091507.k19F7p2g012345@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> New package libstdc++so7 libstdc++.so.7 preview Updated Packages: ElectricFence-2.2.2-20.2 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 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Make -devel require lcms-devel (#179200) agg-2.3-2 --------- anaconda-10.91.17-1 ------------------- * Wed Feb 08 2006 Paul Nasrat - 10.91.17-1 - Handle bind mounts correctly (#160911, dcantrel) - Upgrade package black list and make upgrades work - Disable repo conf for now - loader debuginfo - kickstart - suggest fix (#174597, clumens) anacron-2.3-36 -------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 2.3-36 - rebuild for new gcc, glibc, glibc-kernheaders arts-8:1.5.1-1.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 8:1.5.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes at-3.1.8-81 ----------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3.1.8-81 - rebuild for new gcc, glibc, glibc-kernheaders - workaround new refusal of /usr/bin/install to chown * Sun Dec 18 2005 Jason Vas Dias - 3.1.8-80.2 - rebuild for new flex * Fri Dec 16 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt for new gcj audit-1.1.4-1 ------------- * Wed Feb 08 2006 Steve Grubb 1.1.4-1 - Fix bug in autrace where it didn't run on kernels without file watch support - 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alpha9.8-27 - rebuilt ckermit-8.0.211-4.2 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 8.0.211-4.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes control-center-1:2.13.91-1 -------------------------- * Wed Feb 08 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 - Reenable Spanish help cpio-2.6-11.2 ------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.6-11.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes cpufreq-utils-1:0.4-1.1.22 -------------------------- * Thu Feb 09 2006 Dave Jones - rebuild. cpuspeed-1:1.2.1-1.29 --------------------- * Thu Feb 09 2006 Dave Jones - rebuild. cracklib-2.8.6-1.2 ------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.8.6-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes crash-4.0-2.18.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.0-2.18.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes crypto-utils-2.2-9.2 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.2-9.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes cryptsetup-luks-1.0.1-4.2 ------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 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0.10-16 - rebuild for new gcc, glibc, glibc-kernheaders dialog-1.0.20051107-1.2 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.20051107-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes dictd-1.9.15-5.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.9.15-5.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes diffstat-1.41-1.2 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.41-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes diffutils-2.8.1-15.2 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.8.1-15.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes distcache-1.4.5-12.2 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.4.5-12.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes dmidecode-1:2.7-1.23 -------------------- * Thu Feb 09 2006 Dave Jones - rebuild. dmraid-1.0.0.rc9-FC5_5.1 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.rc9-FC5_5.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes dos2unix-3.1-24.2 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 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0.10.2-7.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes evolution-webcal-2.4.1-3.1 -------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.4.1-3.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes expat-1.95.8-8.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.95.8-8.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes f-spot-0.1.8-2.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.1.8-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes fbset-2.1-20.2 -------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.1-20.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes fence-1.32.10-0.FC5.1.1 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.32.10-0.FC5.1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes festival-1.95-5.1 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.95-5.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes fetchmail-6.3.2.1-1.1 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 6.3.2.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes file-4.16-6.1 ------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.16-6.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Sat Feb 04 2006 Radek Vok??l 4.16-6 - xen patch, recognizes Xen saved domain * Fri Jan 13 2006 Radek Vokal 4.16-5 - fix for 64bit arrays file-roller-2.13.90-1.1 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.90-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes filesystem-2.3.7-1.2 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.3.7-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes findutils-1:4.2.27-3.1 ---------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:4.2.27-3.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes finger-0.17-32.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.17-32.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes firefox-1.5.0.1-2.1 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.5.0.1-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes firstboot-1.4.4-1 ----------------- * Wed Feb 08 2006 Chris Lumens 1.4.4-1 - Get rid of chkconfig --off calls. - Smarter checking for if we need to reboot or not. flac-1.1.2-25.2 --------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.1.2-25.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes flex-2.5.4a-37.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.5.4a-37.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes fontconfig-2.3.93.cvs20060208-1 ------------------------------- * Wed Feb 08 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.3.93.cvs20060208-1 - Newer cvs snapshot foomatic-3.0.2-33.1 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.0.2-33.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes freeglut-2.4.0-3.1 ------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.4.0-3.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes freeradius-1.0.5-1.1 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes freetype-2.1.10-5.2 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.1.10-5.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes fribidi-0.10.4-8.2 ------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.10.4-8.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes frysk-0.0.1.2006.01.22-0.FC5.1.1 -------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.0.1.2006.01.22-0.FC5.1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes ftp-0.17-32.1.1 --------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.17-32.1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes g-wrap-1.3.4-9.2 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3.4-9.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes gail-1.8.8-3 ------------ * Wed Feb 08 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.8.8-3 - Avoid crashing the gimp - Use api docs from tarball * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.8.8-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes gaim-1:1.5.0-15.fc5 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Warren Togami 1:1.5.0-15 - allow compat with gaim-2.x log format (rlaager) * Sat Jan 28 2006 David Malcolm 1:1.5.0-14 - rebuild for new e-d-s * Fri Jan 13 2006 Warren Togami 1:1.5.0-13 - buildreq desktop-file-utils (ivazquez #176688) - detect NSS in a generic way and abort on failure gal-1:0.24-6.2 -------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:0.24-6.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes gamin-0.1.7-1.2 --------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.1.7-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes gawk-3.1.5-5.1 -------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.1.5-5.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes gconf-editor-2.13.90-1.1 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.90-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes gd-2.0.33-6.1 ------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.0.33-6.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Jan 20 2006 Phil Knirsch 2.0.33-6 - Included a few more overflow checks (#177907) gdb-6.3.0.0-1.98.1 ------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 6.3.0.0-1.98.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Mon Jan 16 2006 Alexandre Oliva 6.3.0.0-1.98 - Bump up release number. * Mon Dec 19 2005 Alexandre Oliva 6.3.0.0-1.94 - 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From buildsys at redhat.com Thu Feb 9 15:08:02 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 10:08:02 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060209 changes (part 2/2) Message-ID: <200602091508.k19F8254012390@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> icon-slicer-0.3-7.2 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.3-7.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes icu-3.4-6.1 ----------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.4-6.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes iddev-2.0.0-4.FC5.2 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.0.0-4.FC5.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes imake-1.0.1-1.1 --------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes imlib-1:1.9.13-26.2 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.9.13-26.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes indent-2.2.9-12.1 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.2.9-12.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes inn-2.4.2-4.2 ------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 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0.8.1-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libdbi-drivers-0.8.1a-1.2 ------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.8.1a-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libdmx-1.0.1-1.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libdrm-2.0-2.1 -------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.0-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libevent-1.1a-3.1 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.1a-3.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libexif-0.6.12-3.2 ------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.6.12-3.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libfontenc-1.0.1-1.1 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgail-gnome-1.1.3-1.1 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.1.3-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgconf-java-2.12.1-2.1 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.12.1-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgcrypt-1.2.2-1.2 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.2-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgdiplus-1.1.13.2-1.1 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.1.13.2-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libghttp-1:1.0.9-11.2 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.0.9-11.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libglade-1:0.17-16.2 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:0.17-16.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt * Wed Mar 02 2005 Matthias Clasen 1:0.17-16 - Replace Copyright: with License: - rebuilt with gcc4 libglade-java-2.12.2-1.1 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.12.2-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Mon Jan 30 2006 Adam jocksch - 2.12.2-1 - Updated tarball, deps. * Wed Dec 21 2005 Jesse Keating - 2.12.1-3 - rebuilt again libglade2-2.5.1-3.2 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.5.1-3.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgnome-java-2.12.1-3.1 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.12.1-3.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgnomecanvas-2.13.0-1.1 ------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.0-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgnomecups-0.2.2-3.2 ---------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.2.2-3.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgnomeprint22-2.12.1-4.1 -------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.12.1-4.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgnomeprintui22-2.12.1-1.2 ---------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.12.1-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgnomeui-2.13.3-1.1 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.3-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgpg-error-1.1-1.2 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.1-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgpod-0.3.0-2.1 ----------------- libgsf-1.13.3-2.2 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.13.3-2.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgssapi-0.7-1.1 ----------------- libgtk-java-2.8.3-1.1 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.8.3-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Mon Jan 30 2006 Adam Jocksch - 2.8.3-1 - updated tarball to libgtk-java-2.8.3.tar.gz. * Thu Dec 22 2005 Andrw Cagney - 2.8.2-0 Adam Jocksch - import libgtk-java-2.8.2.tar.gz libgtop2-2.13.3-1.1 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.3-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libibverbs-1.0.rc4-0.4265.1.FC5.2 --------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.rc4-0.4265.1.FC5.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libiec61883-1.0.0-10.fc5.1 -------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0-10.fc5.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libieee1284-0.2.9-3.2 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.2.9-3.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libjpeg-6b-36.2 --------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 6b-36.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes liblbxutil-1.0.0-2.1 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libmng-1.0.9-3.2 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.9-3.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libmthca-1.0.rc4-0.4265.1.FC5.2 ------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.rc4-0.4265.1.FC5.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libmusicbrainz-2.1.1-1.2 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.1.1-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libnl-1.0-0.7.pre5.1 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0-0.7.pre5.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libnotify-0.3.0-4.1 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.3.0-4.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libofx-0.8.0-2.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.8.0-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libogg-2:1.1.3-1.1 ------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2:1.1.3-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes liboil-0.3.6-3.fc5.1 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.3.6-3.fc5.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes liboldX-1.0.1-1.1 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libpfm-3.0-4.2 -------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.0-4.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libpng-2:1.2.8-2.2 ------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2:1.2.8-2.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libpng10-1.0.18-3.2 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.18-3.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libraw1394-1.2.0-3.fc5.1 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.0-3.fc5.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes librtas-1.2.4-1.2 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.4-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libsdp-0.90-0.4265.1.FC5.2 -------------------------- libsetrans-0.1.18-1.1 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.1.18-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libsilc-0:0.9.12-12.2 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:0.9.12-12.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libsoup-2.2.7-1.2 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.2.7-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libtermcap-2.0.8-44.1 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.0.8-44.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libtheora-0:1.0alpha5-1.2 ------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:1.0alpha5-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libtiff-3.7.4-3.2 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.7.4-3.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libtool-1.5.22-2.1 ------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.5.22-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libunwind-0.98.2-3.2 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.98.2-3.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libusb-0.1.11-2.1 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.1.11-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libuser-0.54.3-1.2 ------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.54.3-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libvir-0.0.2-1.1 ---------------- libvorbis-1:1.1.2-1.1 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.1.2-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libvte-java-0.11.11-8.1 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.11.11-8.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libwmf-0.2.8.4-4.1 ------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.2.8.4-4.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libwnck-2.13.90-1.1 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.90-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libwpd-0.8.4-1.2 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.8.4-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating 0.8.4-1.1 - rebuilt * Fri Dec 02 2005 Caolan McNamara 0.8.4-1 - next version libwvstreams-4.2.1-1.1 ---------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.2.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes lm_sensors-2.9.1-6.1 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.9.1-6.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes magma-plugins-1.0.5-0.FC5.1.1 ----------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.5-0.FC5.1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes mcelog-1:0.6-1.16 ----------------- * Thu Feb 09 2006 Dave Jones - rebuild. * Wed Feb 08 2006 Dave Jones - Update to upstream 0.6 memtest86+-1.65-2.2 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.65-2.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes microcode_ctl-1:1.13-1.30 ------------------------- * Thu Feb 09 2006 Dave Jones - rebuild. mkbootdisk-1.5.2-5.2 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.5.2-5.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes netatalk-4:2.0.3-4.2 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jason Vas Dias - rebuild for new gcc, glibc, glibc-kernheaders openCryptoki-2.1.6-2.2 ---------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.1.6-2.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes patchutils-0.2.31-2.2 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.2.31-2.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes perl-Date-Calc-5.4-1.2.1 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.4-1.2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes pvm-3.4.5-6.7 ------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3.4.5-6.7 - rebuild for new gcc, glibc, glibc-kernheaders radvd-0.9.1-1.1 --------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 0.9.1-1.1 - rebuild for new gcc, glibc, glibc-kernheaders redhat-menus-6.6.5-1 -------------------- * Thu Feb 09 2006 Matthias Clasen - 6.6.5-1 - Really move pirut to toplevel rgmanager-1.9.44-0.FC5.1.1 -------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.9.44-0.FC5.1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes rhpxl-0.14-1 ------------ * Wed Feb 08 2006 Chris Lumens 0.14-1 - Remove modes data since this is now in the X server package. rng-utils-1:2.0-1.10 -------------------- * Thu Feb 09 2006 Dave Jones - rebuild. s390utils-2:1.5.0-2.1 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2:1.5.0-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes salinfo-1:0.5-1.11_FC5 ---------------------- * Thu Feb 09 2006 Dave Jones - rebuild. syslinux-3.10-2.2 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.10-2.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes system-config-boot-0.2.11-1.2 ----------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.2.11-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes system-config-securitylevel-1.6.15-1 ------------------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Chris Lumens 1.6.15-1 - Fix firstboot warnings. - Make other services box look better. - Force reboot if SELinux is changed from enabled to disabled in firstboot (#177639). * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.6.14-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes tanukiwrapper-0:3.1.1-4jpp_5fc ------------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:3.1.1-4jpp_5fc - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Wed Dec 21 2005 Jesse Keating - 0:3.1.1-4jpp_4fc - rebuilt again tar-1.15.1-12.1 --------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.15.1-12.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes tog-pegasus-2:2.5-6 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 2:2.5-6 - restore SSLv23_method SSL support now that bug 173399 is fixed - rebuild for new gcc, glibc, glibc-kernheaders - PAMBasicAuthenticatorUnix.cpp includes no longer include syslog.h: add - /usr/bin/install now decides to fail if chown fails - set $INSTALL_USER, $INSTALL_GROUP valgrind-callgrind-0.10.1-1.1 ----------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.10.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes x86info-1:1.17-1.20 ------------------- * Thu Feb 09 2006 Dave Jones - rebuild. xen-3.0.1-0.20060208.fc5.1 -------------------------- * Wed Feb 08 2006 Jeremy Katz - 3.0.1-0.20060208.fc5.1 - turn on http listener so you can do things with libvir as a user * Wed Feb 08 2006 Jeremy Katz - 3.0.1-0.20060208.fc5 - update to current hg snapshot for HVM support - update xenguest-install for hvm changes. allow hvm on svm hardware - fix a few little xenguest-install bugs xorg-x11-drv-apm-1.0.1.5-1.1 ---------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-ark-0.5.0.5-1.1 ---------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.5.0.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-chips-1.0.1.3-1.1 ------------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1.3-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-cirrus-1.0.0.5-1.1 ------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-cyrix-1.0.0.5-1.1 ------------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-glint-1.0.1.3-1.1 ------------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1.3-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-i128-1.1.0.5-1.1 ----------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.1.0.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-i740-1.0.0.5-1.1 ----------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-neomagic-1.0.0.5-1.1 --------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-nsc-2.7.6.5-2.1 ---------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.7.6.5-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-rendition-4.0.1.3-1.1 ---------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.0.1.3-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion-1.3.1.5-1.1 -------------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3.1.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-tseng-1.0.0.5-1.1 ------------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-v4l-0.0.1.5-1.1 ---------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.0.1.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-via-0.1.33.2-1.1 ----------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.1.33.2-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-server-1.0.1-6 ----------------------- * Wed Feb 08 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-6 - Added xorg-x11-server-1.0.1-Red-Hat-extramodes.patch which is a merger of XFree86-4.2.99.2-redhat-custom-modelines.patch and xorg-x11-6.8.2-laptop-modes.patch from FC4 for (#180301) - Install a copy of the vesamodes and extramodes files which contain the list of video modes that are built into the X server, so that the "rhpxl" package does not have to carry around an out of sync copy for itself. (#180301) Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 tkinter - 2.4.2-3.i386 requires libtix8.1.8.4.so Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs tkinter - 2.4.2-3.ia64 requires libtix8.1.8.4.so()(64bit) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- ccs-devel - 1.0.2-3.2.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.2-3.2 gulm - 1.0.4-2.FC5.1.ppc requires ccs tkinter - 2.4.2-3.ppc requires libtix8.1.8.4.so Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 tkinter - 2.4.2-3.ppc64 requires libtix8.1.8.4.so()(64bit) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 tkinter - 2.4.2-3.s390 requires libtix8.1.8.4.so Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjava-2.8.so()(64bit) libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjni-2.8.so()(64bit) systemtap - 0.5.4-2.s390x requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 tkinter - 2.4.2-3.s390x requires libtix8.1.8.4.so()(64bit) Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 tkinter - 2.4.2-3.x86_64 requires libtix8.1.8.4.so()(64bit) From dcantrell at redhat.com Thu Feb 9 15:43:10 2006 From: dcantrell at redhat.com (David Cantrell) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 10:43:10 -0500 Subject: yum update In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DD434@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DD434@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: <20060209154310.GA18302@mortise.boston.redhat.com> MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: > trying to yum update my fc5t2 (at least I think its t2, lol) Rawhide > server this morning and getting the following dep error: > > ---> Package libnl.i386 0:1.0-0.7.pre5.1 set to be updated > --> Running transaction check > --> Processing Dependency: libtix8.1.8.4.so for package: tkinter > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: libtix8.1.8.4.so is needed by package tkinter > > any way around this one? i have tried --exclude=emacspeak, but i > continually get this dep error. > > Any ideas? Tix 8.4.0 and TclX 8.4.0 are a bit different from previous versions, so all of the packages that use those components have to be updated. Emacspeak should be done by now, I think that was getting updated yesterday. -- David Cantrell Red Hat / Westford, MA From michal at harddata.com Thu Feb 9 16:14:20 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:14:20 -0700 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <20060209161420.GA24412@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:03:33AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 17:04 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > > > Specific examples, please. Or you have to be kidding. > > Easily. I put in a media called "Tax2005" and its is mounted > on /media/Tax2005, regardless of which drive > (DVD-ROM,CD-ROM,DVD/CD-Writer, CD-Writer) I use. In other words depending on which CD, and in which order you stuck in one of your multiple drives (volume labels are far from unique) you are looking for your data in different places in a directory treee. Extreme consistency indeed. On the top of that many people told you about other very undesirable effects while, if you are using only "desktop" to access your data, your gain is exactly none. > And no, I'm certainly not kidding. Then you did not really think about what you wish for. Michal From cmadams at hiwaay.net Thu Feb 9 16:46:51 2006 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 10:46:51 -0600 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139476528.2565.58.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081502o20657d9ct553e7f252329ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <20060209003307.GF1554089@hiwaay.net> <1139476528.2565.58.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <20060209164650.GF735844@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Karsten Fischer said: > Consistency. Having a descriptive label on the desktop, like "Graphics > November 2005", and find it within your filesystem instead the rather This is to help people who use the desktop navigation (e.g. Nautilus), not command-line people (who are considered a lost cause anyway). So, modify the desktop software to show the label. There's nothing that says the desktop software has to show the mount point. The desktop already says "cmadams's Home", "Computer", and "Trash", yet I don't have directories by those names. Why should removable media be special? As others have pointed out, volume labels are not unique. However, device names are unique; use them for mount points and let software that cares about labels sort out how to present them. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From gstool at earthlink.net Thu Feb 9 17:30:18 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:30:18 -0600 Subject: Unending zip drive access after today's updates Message-ID: <1139506219.2968.4.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> I updated by FC5T2 system this morning. After reboot to the new kernel, the system continuously accessed a zip disk in my zip drive, hdb4. I finally rebooted and ejected the disk, starting again without it in place. After boot, I inserted the disk and a normal amount of activity ensued to recognize the disk, but it will not mount. Anyone else see the same thing? What should I bugzilla this against? Thanks. Gerry From davej at redhat.com Thu Feb 9 17:35:41 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 12:35:41 -0500 Subject: Unending zip drive access after today's updates In-Reply-To: <1139506219.2968.4.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> References: <1139506219.2968.4.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20060209173541.GG28814@redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:30:18AM -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > I updated by FC5T2 system this morning. After reboot to the new kernel, > the system continuously accessed a zip disk in my zip drive, hdb4. I > finally rebooted and ejected the disk, starting again without it in > place. > > After boot, I inserted the disk and a normal amount of activity ensued > to recognize the disk, but it will not mount. > > Anyone else see the same thing? What should I bugzilla this against? The kernel is just doing what someone asked it to. I'll bet it's hal probing it. Does it stop if you 'service haldaemon stop' ? Dave From jim at jbsys.com Thu Feb 9 17:38:18 2006 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 10:38:18 -0700 Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? References: <43EB2B39.1050106@rogers.com> Message-ID: <00b101c62d9f$9cf24190$0a01a8c0@jbsys> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwaine Garden" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 4:44 AM Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? > Has anyone gotten VMWare Workstation working under FC5T2? I'm getting the > following problem where the config script is telling me > that the headers are incorrect. Does anyone have a way around this? > > Thanks > > Trying to find a suitable vmmon module for your running kernel. > > None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable for > your > running kernel. Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module > for > your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? > [yes] > > Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override. > > What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your > running > kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] > > The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory. > > What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your > running > kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] > /usr/src/kernels/2.6.15-1.1915_FC5-smp-i686/include > > The kernel defined by this directory of header files does not have the > same > address space size as your running kernel. > > What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your > running > kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] > -- >From a Tom London message on this list: There is a bug in the vmware-config.pl script that is exposed by changes to the newer kernel headers. I've reported this to vmware: http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=31877&tstart=0 Here is the patch described there: --- vmware-config.pl.old 2005-12-15 21:55:24.000000000 -0800 +++ vmware-config.pl 2006-02-04 16:53:06.000000000 -0800 @@ -1969,8 +1969,8 @@ . ' -E - | ' . shell_string($gHelper{'grep'}) . ' ' . shell_string($pattern)); chomp($header_page_offset); - $header_page_offset =~ s/^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,}).*$/$1/; - if ($header_page_offset =~ /[0-9a-fA-F]{8,}/) { + if ($header_page_offset =~ /^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,})/) { + $header_page_offset = $1; # We found a valid page offset if (defined($gSystem{'page_offset'}) and not (lc($header_page_offset) eq lc($gSystem{'page_offset'}))) { I am able to build a vmware 5.5 system with a couple of patches to vmware. One is in the makefile.kernel in vmmon and vmnet directory. The other is the patch above. See the vmware forum for the latest. I am also building on a x86_64 box. BTW, you will also need to mount /proc/bus/usb on /sys/bus/usb by doing "mount -t usbfs /dev/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb" if you want vmware to see any USB devices. Also make sure you have the kernel-devel rpm installed. Jim > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From selinux at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 17:42:00 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:42:00 -0800 Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? In-Reply-To: <00b101c62d9f$9cf24190$0a01a8c0@jbsys> References: <43EB2B39.1050106@rogers.com> <00b101c62d9f$9cf24190$0a01a8c0@jbsys> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602090942r653acd2ayd7fa66394f3b8f41@mail.gmail.com> Latest couple of kernels fix the 'mount -t usbfs' issue. I don't need to do the mount trick any more. tom From grinnz at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 18:17:31 2006 From: grinnz at gmail.com (Dan) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:17:31 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060209164650.GF735844@hiwaay.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081502o20657d9ct553e7f252329ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <20060209003307.GF1554089@hiwaay.net> <1139476528.2565.58.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209164650.GF735844@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <43EB873B.6060200@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dravet at hotmail.com Thu Feb 9 18:56:09 2006 From: dravet at hotmail.com (Jason Dravet) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:56:09 -0600 Subject: hsqldb message during todays rawhide update Message-ID: I saw the following message during todays rawhide update: Updating : hsqldb ##################### [220/577] Changing shell for hsqldb. Shell not changed. Should I open bugzillas for this? Thanks, Jason From gstool at earthlink.net Thu Feb 9 19:07:49 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:07:49 -0600 Subject: Unending zip drive access after today's updates In-Reply-To: <20060209173541.GG28814@redhat.com> References: <1139506219.2968.4.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> <20060209173541.GG28814@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139512070.3918.1.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 12:35 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:30:18AM -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > > I updated by FC5T2 system this morning. After reboot to the new kernel, > > the system continuously accessed a zip disk in my zip drive, hdb4. I > > finally rebooted and ejected the disk, starting again without it in > > place. > > > > After boot, I inserted the disk and a normal amount of activity ensued > > to recognize the disk, but it will not mount. > > > > Anyone else see the same thing? What should I bugzilla this against? > > The kernel is just doing what someone asked it to. > I'll bet it's hal probing it. Does it stop if you 'service haldaemon stop' ? > > Dave > No, that does nothing to stop the activity. [root at fc5t2 ~]# service haldaemon stop Stopping HAL daemon: [ OK ] Thanks for replying. Gerry From dwainegarden at rogers.com Thu Feb 9 19:58:38 2006 From: dwainegarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 14:58:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? In-Reply-To: <00b101c62d9f$9cf24190$0a01a8c0@jbsys> Message-ID: <20060209195838.17939.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com> "James C. Bevier" wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwaine Garden" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 4:44 AM Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? > Has anyone gotten VMWare Workstation working under FC5T2? I'm getting the > following problem where the config script is telling me > that the headers are incorrect. Does anyone have a way around this? > > Thanks > > Trying to find a suitable vmmon module for your running kernel. > > None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable for > your > running kernel. Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module > for > your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? > [yes] > > Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override. > > What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your > running > kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] > > The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory. > > What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your > running > kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] > /usr/src/kernels/2.6.15-1.1915_FC5-smp-i686/include > > The kernel defined by this directory of header files does not have the > same > address space size as your running kernel. > > What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your > running > kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] > -- >From a Tom London message on this list: There is a bug in the vmware-config.pl script that is exposed by changes to the newer kernel headers. I've reported this to vmware: http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=31877&tstart=0 Here is the patch described there: --- vmware-config.pl.old 2005-12-15 21:55:24.000000000 -0800 +++ vmware-config.pl 2006-02-04 16:53:06.000000000 -0800 @@ -1969,8 +1969,8 @@ . ' -E - | ' . shell_string($gHelper{'grep'}) . ' ' . shell_string($pattern)); chomp($header_page_offset); - $header_page_offset =~ s/^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,}).*$/$1/; - if ($header_page_offset =~ /[0-9a-fA-F]{8,}/) { + if ($header_page_offset =~ /^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,})/) { + $header_page_offset = $1; # We found a valid page offset if (defined($gSystem{'page_offset'}) and not (lc($header_page_offset) eq lc($gSystem{'page_offset'}))) { I am able to build a vmware 5.5 system with a couple of patches to vmware. One is in the makefile.kernel in vmmon and vmnet directory. The other is the patch above. See the vmware forum for the latest. I am also building on a x86_64 box. BTW, you will also need to mount /proc/bus/usb on /sys/bus/usb by doing "mount -t usbfs /dev/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb" if you want vmware to see any USB devices. Also make sure you have the kernel-devel rpm installed. Jim Jim, thanks for the patch and the mounting for USB devices. I will try it tonight. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmorris at beau.org Thu Feb 9 21:00:47 2006 From: jmorris at beau.org (John Morris) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:00:47 -0600 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <1139518847.2952.28.camel@mjolnir> On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 03:03, Karsten Fischer wrote: > Easily. I put in a media called "Tax2005" and its is mounted > on /media/Tax2005, regardless of which drive > (DVD-ROM,CD-ROM,DVD/CD-Writer, CD-Writer) I use. And for your use that is a good thing. Been lurking on this thread and pondering. I think everyone is seeing a part of the elephant. I'd like to back up and try to see the whole critter. Way I see it there are a variety of competing visions here, none of which satify everyone. But when we boil it down we are looking at the problem of what to do with removable media. These are the factors I see going into the decision process: 1. The volume name 2. The device the media is inserted into. For this purpose we must count USB ports individually as devices, probably even allow for ports on hubs to be declared a seperate 'device.' >From this we have to have a way to decide where it gets mounted AND something so far left out of the discussion, which user/process/virtual machine owns it. No one solution can possibly cover every circumstance so we need a way to configure it. Some sample use cases that stress the current systems: 1. An authentication system that expects a user to insert a USB key into the left front panel USB slot before logging on. This case needs the key mounted in a fixed location. Post login the USB drive may or may not be available on the user's desktop. If we want it accessable it needs to be owned by the user on display hostname:0.0. 2. The system has two heads. One user logs onto the primary console and owns any media inserted into the internal optical drive or the front panel USB ports. A second user connects to the second head and has a USB keyboard/mouse. They own any media inserted into the rear USB ports (on a USB extension cord) or the external USB DVD recorder sitting in their workspace. Perhaps in the this case it might make sense to posit a ~/media directory and mount each user's volumes within. 3. Combine #1 & #2. 4. A Xen/VMWare/Vnc/etc virtual machine/session is given one or more devices. Currently when a CD is inserted it gets mounted by the native desktop, which has been known to be a major PITA when the intention is to use it in VMWare. Whether such a far ranging discussion is on topic for this list is a good question. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From jim at jbsys.com Thu Feb 9 21:14:59 2006 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 14:14:59 -0700 Subject: NVIDIA driver with X86_64 kernal 2.6.15-1.1917 Message-ID: <004d01c62dbd$f53f6800$0a01a8c0@jbsys> The NVIDIA driver (version 8178) seems to work ok with the latest kernel. There are a few patches to make, but hay, this is a testing release. Here is the skinny on getting it to run: 1. Go here http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-8178.html to get the NVIDIA driver. 2. Go here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62021 to get the "zander" patch U012206. 3. On the target system, do the following: mkdir /usr/X11R6 cd /usr/X11R6 ln -s ../lib64 lib64 cd lib64 ln -s xorg/modules modules 4. Now apply the patch from step 2 above following the instructions by "zander" 5. Build the driver, change the xorg.conf file and you are good to go. The step 3 changes are required because of changes to the xorg directory paths. The nvidia configure program is still looking at the old structure. If you do not do step 3, you will get errors saying GLX libraries and NVIDIA driver could not be found. I would think the x86 changes would be similar to the x86_64 mods. Good Luck, Jim From jim at jbsys.com Thu Feb 9 21:14:59 2006 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 14:14:59 -0700 Subject: NVIDIA driver with X86_64 kernal 2.6.15-1.1917 Message-ID: <200602092136.k19LaKuc005104@hipeak.jbsys.com> The NVIDIA driver (version 8178) seems to work ok with the latest kernel. There are a few patches to make, but hay, this is a testing release. Here is the skinny on getting it to run: 1. Go here http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-8178.html to get the NVIDIA driver. 2. Go here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62021 to get the "zander" patch U012206. 3. On the target system, do the following: mkdir /usr/X11R6 cd /usr/X11R6 ln -s ../lib64 lib64 cd lib64 ln -s xorg/modules modules 4. Now apply the patch from step 2 above following the instructions by "zander" 5. Build the driver, change the xorg.conf file and you are good to go. The step 3 changes are required because of changes to the xorg directory paths. The nvidia configure program is still looking at the old structure. If you do not do step 3, you will get errors saying GLX libraries and NVIDIA driver could not be found. I would think the x86 changes would be similar to the x86_64 mods. Good Luck, Jim From off_by_1 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 9 21:38:44 2006 From: off_by_1 at yahoo.com (Mick Mearns) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:38:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: later kernals hand at boot - udev? Message-ID: <20060209213844.12553.qmail@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi; kernels later than 1985 will not boot for me. (FC5T2) [root at localhost ~]# uname -r 2.6.15-1.1895_FC5 I update every day, the latest is: 2.6.15-1.1915_FC5 Gives during the boot: .............................................................. Starting udev: [ok] Loading default keymap (us): [ok] Setting hostname localhost.localdomain: [ok] ======================= - (hangs with cursor here) ............................................................. [root at localhost ~]# rpm -qa udev udev-084-1 This is todays udev. Thanks Mick M. Death before Decaf!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mike at miketc.com Thu Feb 9 21:47:00 2006 From: mike at miketc.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:47:00 -0600 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <1139521620.2074.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:05 -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > If after using things for a while all your window borders disappear, you > may have better luck by setting the METACITY_SYNC environment variable > to 1 and rerunning spififity. Setting the environment variable incurs a > minor performance hit, but it will also mask a lingering bug in the > compositing manager code. Yes I ran into this, and have since went back to original metacity (I think, does rebooting work?). But I have lost my borders and such and can't think/don't know how to get them back? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt, then it's hilarious!" From rstrode at redhat.com Thu Feb 9 22:22:30 2006 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:22:30 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139521620.2074.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139521620.2074.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> Message-ID: <1139523750.4062.4.camel@halflap> Hi, > > If after using things for a while all your window borders disappear, you > > may have better luck by setting the METACITY_SYNC environment variable > > to 1 and rerunning spififity. Setting the environment variable incurs a > > minor performance hit, but it will also mask a lingering bug in the > > compositing manager code. > > Yes I ran into this, and have since went back to original metacity (I > think, does rebooting work?). But I have lost my borders and such and > can't think/don't know how to get them back? Weird. Maybe you saved your session with spififity running then uninstalled the spififity rpm? If so, log into a virtual console or failsafe xterm as your username, then run: sed -i -e 's/spififity/metacity/' ~/.gnome2/session Alternatively, reinstall the spififity package, log in, press alt-f2 and then type "metacity --replace" --Ray From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Feb 9 23:37:24 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:37:24 +0000 Subject: Mono compilation woes Message-ID: <1139528244.6154.52.camel@T7.Linux> Hi, I'm guessing that it's because of the gcc 4.1 read ahead problem which means mono/mcs will need a full recompile that when I try to build gtksourceview-sharp it hits an error in the build and stops dead. Is anyone else noticing problems when compiling with mono/mcs? 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Does "Clean up by Name" not do what you want? I have one icon that I have to reposition everytime I log into gnome... I > also have to close a nautilus file browser window every time I login :| > > Not huge things, but damn annoying :| > > I'm not saving my session each time I logout, maybe that is the issue? Yes, that's the issue. > I > really want to be able to login, have gkrellm load, have the icons in a > nice place, and not have anything else open - even if I did when I logged > out last time. So log in, get it set up the way you want, and log out, saving that session. Or issue "gnome-session-save" when you have it set up the way you want. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at gmail.com against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/bcs / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From berryja at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 00:14:51 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 18:14:51 -0600 Subject: Updating from chroot Message-ID: <8767947e0602091614q12475af4s39199bbdde8d48@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I have my test system setup on a partition along side my normal use FC4 install. The partition gets mounted in FC4, and I found I could do some stuff in the FC5T2 (Rawhide) environment (eg rpm -q stuff) by chrooting into the FC5 partition. What I do not know is what all I can successfully do in the chroot environment and what things should be done to get a more fully working test system running in chroot (eg, /dev/ is basically empty). Specifically, it would be nice to do a yum update from within the chroot so I don't have to reboot to the Rawhide install, update, wait forever for updates to download and install since I have not updated in a while, reboot to the new kernel, etc. Can this sort of thing be done safely (correctly) from within the chroot? Can I do stuff like start up udev so I can access hardware? Jonathan From benjy.grogan at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 00:29:58 2006 From: benjy.grogan at gmail.com (Benjy Grogan) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 19:29:58 -0500 Subject: XGL In-Reply-To: <43E15BEF.3070405@mharris.ca> References: <43E15BEF.3070405@mharris.ca> Message-ID: On 2/1/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > Benjy Grogan wrote: > > I hear that in a week or so Novell will be releasing the source code to > > XGL for X11 7.0. Will it be possible to have XGL available in Extras > > for FC5? I'm guessing it's one of those new X11 modules that v7.0 is > > all about. But I know little about XGL and would like to test it out to > > know more. It's going to be in NLD 10 in a few months. > > There are a lot of X related "goodies" that are up and coming in the > X development world, including technologies being developed by Red Hat, > Novell, Sun, and various others in the community. The current plan for > Fedora Core 5, is to ship X11R7.0 as the official X implementation, > including the Xorg X server. > > The various developmental/experimental technologies being developed > by the above parties will most likely be available to Fedora users in > one form or another over time, however everything is quite experimental > at the current point in time to make any solid speculation for the > inclusion of other components into Fedora Core 5 at this time. > Maybe Fedora could do something like was done with SELinux? Where it was available in FC2 but not by default. In an update for X11 from 7.0 to 7.1for FC5 the Xgl branch could be included along with instructions on how to enable it. This is how Novell will be introducing Xgl to it's NLD10 distribution. It seems like a good way to get Xgl tested early and it's the perfect place for it to take place, in Fedora. I'm eager to see how Xgl works. :) And then I guess compiz would be the next request. ;) Benji -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkeating at j2solutions.net Fri Feb 10 00:33:31 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:33:31 -0800 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <1139531611.3490.0.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:05 -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > If you see drop shadows and a bunch of solid white windows, you probably > aren't running the right X server. Make sure you're running Xair and > not Xorg. I don't quite get that. Here is what I get: http://geek.j2solutions.net/shots/blang.png -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From pgraner at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 00:37:14 2006 From: pgraner at redhat.com (Pete Graner) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:37:14 -0500 Subject: Multi-head with Radeon finally working. Message-ID: <43EBE03A.6080807@redhat.com> I've been having problems with the latest FC5 (rawhide) and getting my 2nd head to work. There is a bug filed at x.org https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5447 There was a suggestion to try: Option "ColorTiling" "off" And sure enough it started working. However from what I'm told it will not allow Xinerama to work, you will have to use MergedFB if you want "Spanning Desktops". I can confirm this which works for me with: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] Just passing it on... Pete -- Pete Graner email: From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Fri Feb 10 02:11:57 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:11:57 -0500 Subject: gweather-applet-2 crashes In-Reply-To: <43CF0D7A.80501@insight.rr.com> References: <1137597554.3941.1.camel@zaphod.graze.net> <43CF0D7A.80501@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <43EBF66D.8050702@insight.rr.com> Jim Cornette wrote: > Brian C. Huffman wrote: > >> After today's rawhide update (and actually since the big gnome-session >> crash creator), gweather-applet-2 still fails to load. When I try to >> add to the panel, it dies. >> >> I don't know how to recreate on the command line - >> typing /usr/lib/gweather-applet-2 just hangs. >> >> Brian follow-up: The applet for gweather now loads for me. Jim -- Learn from other people's mistakes, you don't have time to make your own. From partha at partha.com Fri Feb 10 02:24:14 2006 From: partha at partha.com (Partha Bagchi) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:24:14 -0500 Subject: Kernel 1917 x86_64 acpi Errors Message-ID: <43EBF94E.8090302@partha.com> I am finally able to boot a kernel beyond 1884. The only way to boot is to use acpi=off. Here are the errors that I could write down (only partially, since they are more of the same) if booted without acpi=off {acpi_ut_execute_STA+31}{ffffffff8023e204}{acpi_ut_release_mutex+100} {acpi_ns_get_device_callback+105} {vsscanf+1467}{acpi_os+wait_semaphore+118} .... Needless to say, no acpi. Here are some details: uname -a: Linux 2.6.15-1.1917_FC5 #1 SMP Tue Feb 7 20:38:34 EST 2006 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Hardware: HP dv8000 with AMD 64 Turion From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 02:38:57 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:38:57 -0500 Subject: Kernel 1917 x86_64 acpi Errors References: <43EBF94E.8090302@partha.com> Message-ID: Partha Bagchi wrote: > I am finally able to boot a kernel beyond 1884. The only way to boot is > to use acpi=off. Here are the errors that I could write down (only > partially, since they are more of the same) if booted without acpi=off > > {acpi_ut_execute_STA+31}{ffffffff8023e204}{acpi_ut_release_mutex+100} > {acpi_ns_get_device_callback+105} > {vsscanf+1467}{acpi_os+wait_semaphore+118} > .... > > > > Needless to say, no acpi. > > Here are some details: > uname -a: > Linux 2.6.15-1.1917_FC5 #1 SMP Tue Feb 7 20:38:34 EST 2006 x86_64 > x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Hardware: HP dv8000 with AMD 64 Turion > This worked for me (I also have HP dv8000), using vanilla 2.6.16-rc2. I'm running it right now. > On Wednesday 08 February 2006 01:07, Greg KH wrote: > > > > In the meantime, here's what I got.. > > > > > > http://people.redhat.com/davej/DSC00148.JPG > > > > Andi, didn't your change for this function make it into Linus's tree? > > Yes > > See > http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=1de6bf33bc4601d856c286ad5c7d515468e24bbb > > Workaround is pci=nommconf btw > > From davej at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 02:41:42 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 21:41:42 -0500 Subject: Kernel 1917 x86_64 acpi Errors In-Reply-To: <43EBF94E.8090302@partha.com> References: <43EBF94E.8090302@partha.com> Message-ID: <20060210024142.GC8427@redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:24:14PM -0500, Partha Bagchi wrote: > I am finally able to boot a kernel beyond 1884. The only way to boot is > to use acpi=off. Here are the errors that I could write down (only > partially, since they are more of the same) if booted without acpi=off > > {acpi_ut_execute_STA+31}{ffffffff8023e204}{acpi_ut_release_mutex+100} > {acpi_ns_get_device_callback+105} > {vsscanf+1467}{acpi_os+wait_semaphore+118} > .... > > > > Needless to say, no acpi. > > Here are some details: > uname -a: > Linux 2.6.15-1.1917_FC5 #1 SMP Tue Feb 7 20:38:34 EST 2006 x86_64 > x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Hardware: HP dv8000 with AMD 64 Turion I've been chasing this myself the last few days. It should be fixed in tomorrows rawhide. (Grab it early from http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/devel/ ) Dave From davej at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 02:42:28 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 21:42:28 -0500 Subject: Kernel 1917 x86_64 acpi Errors In-Reply-To: References: <43EBF94E.8090302@partha.com> Message-ID: <20060210024228.GD8427@redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:38:57PM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > > Workaround is pci=nommconf btw > This worked for me (I also have HP dv8000), using vanilla 2.6.16-rc2. I'm running it right now. As of tomorrows build, you shouldn't need to pass that (or any other) boot param. Dave From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 03:26:29 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 22:26:29 -0500 Subject: Rawhide -- No Firefox crash Talkback extension? Message-ID: Hi, I am running the latest Rawhide and find that Firefox has crashed several times in the last couple of days with no Talkback bug report tool getting launched. Is this intended or it is an oversight in the Firefox package creation? Thanks, Miles From mike at miketc.com Fri Feb 10 03:55:23 2006 From: mike at miketc.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:55:23 -0600 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139523750.4062.4.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139521620.2074.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> <1139523750.4062.4.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <1139543723.3114.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 17:22 -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > Weird. Maybe you saved your session with spififity running then > uninstalled the spififity rpm? Yes, I believe that is what I actually did. > Alternatively, reinstall the spififity package, log in, press alt-f2 and > then type "metacity --replace" Doing the above, well alt-f2 didn't work, but typing it in an xterm got it back and working. Guess won't be messing with *that* for a while :P -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt, then it's hilarious!" From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 04:01:34 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 23:01:34 -0500 Subject: Rawhide -- No Firefox crash Talkback extension? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa7910602092001n20683cb6t24fb8b955d4f1a26@mail.gmail.com> On 2/9/06, Miles Lane wrote: > Hi, > > I am running the latest Rawhide and find that Firefox has crashed > several times in the last couple of days with no Talkback bug report > tool getting launched. Is this intended or it is an oversight in the > Firefox package creation? talkback is not open source.... and as such is not shippable in fedora's builds. http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq.html#talkback From netwiz at crc.id.au Fri Feb 10 07:26:13 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:26:13 +1100 (EST) Subject: Automounter broken? Message-ID: <26292.192.94.41.42.1139556373.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> After todays rawhide updates, gnome automounting for USB devices (ie USB key or USB2 HDD) seem to be broken. Anyone else see this? From kfischer at bfki.net Fri Feb 10 09:01:10 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:01:10 +0100 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139531611.3490.0.camel@ender> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139531611.3490.0.camel@ender> Message-ID: <1139562071.4102.2.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 16:33 -0800 schrieb Jesse Keating: > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:05 -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > > If you see drop shadows and a bunch of solid white windows, you probably > > aren't running the right X server. Make sure you're running Xair and > > not Xorg. > > I don't quite get that. Here is what I get: > > http://geek.j2solutions.net/shots/blang.png I can add another one: http://www.bfki.net/test/Bildschirmfoto.png -- Karsten Fischer From kfischer at bfki.net Fri Feb 10 09:35:35 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:35:35 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060209164650.GF735844@hiwaay.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081502o20657d9ct553e7f252329ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <20060209003307.GF1554089@hiwaay.net> <1139476528.2565.58.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209164650.GF735844@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1139564136.4102.22.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 10:46 -0600 schrieb Chris Adams: > As others have pointed out, volume labels are not unique. However, > device names are unique; use them for mount points and let software that > cares about labels sort out how to present them. But then, the device names are not used for mount points. Whenever I use 'cat /proc/devices' I do not see something like 'cdrecorder' in it. If I use 'hal-devices', it gets even more cryptical. Could somebody give me a clue, since I think the mountpoint /media/cdrecorder had been arbitrarily chosen by somebody and could easily be named something like /media/place-to-burn-cd-rom? From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl Fri Feb 10 09:41:53 2006 From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:41:53 +0100 Subject: Updating from chroot In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602091614q12475af4s39199bbdde8d48@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0602091614q12475af4s39199bbdde8d48@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060210094153.GB17988@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 06:14:51PM -0600, Jonathan Berry wrote: > Hi all, > > I have my test system setup on a partition along side my normal use > FC4 install. The partition gets mounted in FC4, and I found I could > do some stuff in the FC5T2 (Rawhide) environment (eg rpm -q stuff) by > chrooting into the FC5 partition. What I do not know is what all I > can successfully do in the chroot environment and what things should > be done to get a more fully working test system running in chroot (eg, > /dev/ is basically empty). Specifically, it would be nice to do a yum > update from within the chroot so I don't have to reboot to the Rawhide > install, update, wait forever for updates to download and install > since I have not updated in a while, reboot to the new kernel, etc. > Can this sort of thing be done safely (correctly) from within the > chroot? Can I do stuff like start up udev so I can access hardware? mount --bind is your friend ;) Do it for /dev, /proc, /sys and /tmp and you should be able to run X apps, too. Regards, -- Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling Warsaw University | http://www.icm.edu.pl | tel. +48 (22) 5540810 From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl Fri Feb 10 09:40:34 2006 From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:40:34 +0100 Subject: NVIDIA driver with X86_64 kernal 2.6.15-1.1917 In-Reply-To: <004d01c62dbd$f53f6800$0a01a8c0@jbsys> References: <004d01c62dbd$f53f6800$0a01a8c0@jbsys> Message-ID: <20060210094034.GA17988@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:14:59PM -0700, James C. Bevier wrote: > The NVIDIA driver (version 8178) seems to work ok with the latest kernel. > There are a few patches to make, but hay, this is a testing release. Here > is the skinny on getting it to run: And here's a better way: http://www.leemhuis.info/files/fedorarpms/MISC.lvn/graphics/ rpmbuild --rebuild --target `uname -m` nvidia-kmod-*.src.rpm and then install the newly built RPM and xorg-x11-drv-nvidia RPM. Regards, -- Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling Warsaw University | http://www.icm.edu.pl | tel. +48 (22) 5540810 From kfischer at bfki.net Fri Feb 10 10:01:38 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:01:38 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060209161420.GA24412@mail.harddata.com> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209161420.GA24412@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1139565699.4102.46.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 09:14 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:03:33AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 17:04 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > > > > > Specific examples, please. Or you have to be kidding. > > > > Easily. I put in a media called "Tax2005" and its is mounted > > on /media/Tax2005, regardless of which drive > > (DVD-ROM,CD-ROM,DVD/CD-Writer, CD-Writer) I use. > > In other words depending on which CD, and in which order you stuck > in one of your multiple drives (volume labels are far from unique) > you are looking for your data in different places in a directory > treee. Extreme consistency indeed. Really? I put in the CD "Tax2005" - let me check this, yes - and it is mounted, every time, on every device, as /media/Tax2005. So instead of looking in /media/cdrecorder0 or /media/cdrecorder1 I look in /media/Tax2005. > On the top of that many people told you about other very undesirable > effects while, if you are using only "desktop" to access your data, > your gain is exactly none. Haven't said anything about using only the desktop. Every change in a running system has its drawbacks. There was a discussion about introduction of modules in the kernel quite a while ago. Since the computer hardware didn't change so fast as it does today, some argued that a purely monolithic kernel, no hardware modules whatsoever, would be more stable, easier to maintain, would break some existing methods (which it did) and so on; they flatly refused to see the advantages. But that's a different story. The problem is to look at the pros and cons and to find out if the gain outweighs the drawbacks. Which, in this case, I think it does. > > And no, I'm certainly not kidding. > > Then you did not really think about what you wish for. I did, still do. But before you start judging my thinking, try to stay on the topic. From monty19 at hotmail.com Fri Feb 10 10:17:13 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:17:13 +0900 Subject: kernel-xen-hypervisor and Gnome/GStreamer Volume Control Message-ID: I am still having absolutely no luck getting sound working with the newest xen kernel. lsmod shows: cx88_alsa 17481 0 cx88xx 64229 1 cx88_alsa i2c_algo_bit 12361 1 cx88xx ir_common 13381 1 cx88xx tveeprom 17873 1 cx88xx videodev 13633 1 cx88xx video_buf 25541 2 cx88_alsa,cx88xx btcx_risc 8777 2 cx88_alsa,cx88xx xt_physdev 6353 1 loop 19657 2 bridge 51925 0 ppdev 12741 0 autofs4 23237 1 i2c_dev 12869 0 i2c_core 24897 4 cx88xx,i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom,i2c_dev xt_limit 6721 6 xt_tcpudp 7233 21 iptable_mangle 6849 0 ipt_LOG 10049 8 ipt_MASQUERADE 7745 0 ip_nat 20973 1 ipt_MASQUERADE ipt_TOS 6465 0 ipt_REJECT 9537 1 ip_conntrack_irc 10801 0 ip_conntrack_ftp 11697 0 xt_state 6209 6 ip_conntrack 54681 5 ipt_MASQUERADE,ip_nat,ip_conntrack_irc,ip_conntrack_ftp,xt_state nfnetlink 10585 2 ip_nat,ip_conntrack iptable_filter 7105 1 ip_tables 16517 2 iptable_mangle,iptable_filter x_tables 16965 9 xt_physdev,xt_limit,xt_tcpudp,ipt_LOG,ipt_MASQUERADE,ipt_TOS,ipt_REJECT,xt_state,ip_tables dm_mirror 24209 0 dm_mod 55257 1 dm_mirror video 19269 0 button 10705 0 battery 13381 0 ac 8901 0 ipv6 249633 14 lp 16393 0 parport_pc 29540 1 parport 38153 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc nvram 12745 0 usblp 17473 0 ohci1394 36357 0 ieee1394 293913 1 ohci1394 uhci_hcd 33617 0 joydev 13441 0 e100 39109 0 mii 9409 1 e100 snd_maestro3 28229 0 snd_ac97_codec 87905 1 snd_maestro3 snd_ac97_bus 6465 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_seq_dummy 7749 0 snd_seq_oss 33985 0 snd_seq_midi_event 11329 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq 53297 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device 12877 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_pcm_oss 49489 0 snd_mixer_oss 20545 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 81989 4 cx88_alsa,snd_maestro3,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 26949 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 14537 1 snd_pcm snd 54085 10 cx88_alsa,snd_maestro3,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 13473 1 snd hw_random 9817 0 ext3 123209 1 jbd 57685 1 ext3 lspci shows: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 03) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 03) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BAM IDE U100 (rev 03) 00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 03) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go] (rev a3) 02:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 10) 02:06.0 PCI bridge: Actiontec Electronics Inc Mini-PCI bridge (rev 11) 02:0f.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus Controller 02:0f.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus Controller 02:0f.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCI4451 IEEE-1394 Controller 08:04.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 08) 08:08.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems WinModem 56k (rev 01) The Xen kernel is: kernel-xen-hypervisor-2.6.15-1.51_FC5 Sound works fine when I boot with: kernel-2.6.15-1.1917_FC5 From rc040203 at freenet.de Fri Feb 10 10:26:55 2006 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:26:55 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139564136.4102.22.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081502o20657d9ct553e7f252329ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <20060209003307.GF1554089@hiwaay.net> <1139476528.2565.58.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209164650.GF735844@hiwaay.net> <1139564136.4102.22.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <1139567215.1084.195.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 10:35 +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 10:46 -0600 schrieb Chris Adams: > > > As others have pointed out, volume labels are not unique. However, > > device names are unique; use them for mount points and let software that > > cares about labels sort out how to present them. > > But then, the device names are not used for mount points. Whenever I use > 'cat /proc/devices' I do not see something like 'cdrecorder' in it. If I > use 'hal-devices', it gets even more cryptical. Could somebody give me a > clue, since I think the mountpoint /media/cdrecorder had been > arbitrarily chosen by somebody and could easily be named something > like /media/place-to-burn-cd-rom? http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MEDIAMOUNTPOINT From W.J.Murray at rl.ac.uk Fri Feb 10 10:51:30 2006 From: W.J.Murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:51:30 +0000 Subject: Firefox startup behaviour Message-ID: <1139568690.11290.16.camel@heplnw8.pp.rl.ac.uk> There is a minor, but annoying, behaviour with the firefox launching behaviour in FC5T2. If I click on a link, e.g. in an email, firefox is launched. Good. If I click on a second link it is not launched again, but instead a new tab is opened. Fine. However, if the original window is on a different workspace, then I get no feedback that anything has happened. This has obviously been worked on: If there are two existing firefox sessions the one in the current workspace is used. IF that is iconised it is opened. But can we go one step further, and open a new window if the existing one is off workspace? Bill From harald at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 11:35:47 2006 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:35:47 +0100 Subject: later kernals hand at boot - udev? In-Reply-To: <20060209213844.12553.qmail@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060209213844.12553.qmail@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43EC7A93.6010301@redhat.com> Mick Mearns wrote: > Hi; > kernels later than 1985 will not boot for me. (FC5T2) > > [root at localhost ~]# uname -r > 2.6.15-1.1895_FC5 > > I update every day, the latest is: 2.6.15-1.1915_FC5 > > Gives during the boot: > .............................................................. > > Starting udev: [ok] > Loading default keymap (us): [ok] > Setting hostname localhost.localdomain: [ok] > ======================= > - (hangs with cursor here) > ............................................................. > > [root at localhost ~]# rpm -qa udev > udev-084-1 > This is todays udev. > > > > Thanks > Mick M. > > > Death before Decaf!!! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Set udev_log="debug" in /etc/udev/udev.conf and watch.. From roger at gwch.net Fri Feb 10 12:12:57 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:12:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: later kernals hand at boot - udev? In-Reply-To: <43EC7A93.6010301@redhat.com> References: <20060209213844.12553.qmail@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43EC7A93.6010301@redhat.com> Message-ID: <8281.193.73.106.103.1139573577.squirrel@www.gwch.net> > Mick Mearns wrote: >> Hi; >> kernels later than 1985 will not boot for me. (FC5T2) >> >> [root at localhost ~]# uname -r >> 2.6.15-1.1895_FC5 >> >> I update every day, the latest is: 2.6.15-1.1915_FC5 >> >> Gives during the boot: >> .............................................................. >> >> Starting udev: [ok] >> Loading default keymap (us): [ok] >> Setting hostname localhost.localdomain: [ok] >> ======================= >> - (hangs with cursor here) >> ............................................................. >> >> [root at localhost ~]# rpm -qa udev >> udev-084-1 >> This is todays udev. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> Mick M. >> >> >> Death before Decaf!!! >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> > > Set udev_log="debug" in /etc/udev/udev.conf and watch.. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > i have similar and set to debug a long time ago. i still search something helpful, mine hangs (sometimes) while setting up the tty's - but i cannot see any reason too... Roger From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 12:20:58 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:20:58 -0500 Subject: Kernel 1917 x86_64 acpi Errors References: <43EBF94E.8090302@partha.com> <20060210024228.GD8427@redhat.com> Message-ID: Dave Jones wrote: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:38:57PM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > > > > Workaround is pci=nommconf btw > > This worked for me (I also have HP dv8000), using vanilla 2.6.16-rc2. > > I'm running it right now. > > As of tomorrows build, you shouldn't need to pass that (or any other) boot > param. > > Dave > Actually, I used the patch but never needed to pass the option From buildsys at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 12:57:44 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:57:44 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060210 changes (part 1/2) Message-ID: <200602101257.k1ACviK4014258@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> New package libvirt Library providing an API to use the Xen virtualization Updated Packages: MySQL-python-1.2.0-3.2 ---------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 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Harris 1.0.0-1 - Updated libXt to version 1.0.0 from X11R7 RC4 - Added makestrs and it's manpage to the devel subpackage. libXtst-1.0.1-1.1 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libXv-1.0.1-1.1 --------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libXvMC-1.0.1-2.1 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libXxf86dga-1.0.0-2.1 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libXxf86misc-1.0.0-2.1 ---------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libXxf86vm-1.0.0-2.1 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libgnome-2.13.7-5 ----------------- * Thu Feb 09 2006 Matthias Clasen - 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Rebuilt mx4j-1:3.0.1-1jpp_8fc --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:3.0.1-1jpp_8fc - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes - remove dep on jonathan-rmi mysql-5.0.18-2 -------------- * Thu Feb 09 2006 Tom Lane 5.0.18-2 - err-log option has been renamed to log-error, fix my.cnf and initscript * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.0.18-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Thu Jan 05 2006 Tom Lane 5.0.18-1 - Update to MySQL 5.0.18 mysql-connector-odbc-3.51.12-1.2 -------------------------------- mysqlclient10-3.23.58-9.1 ------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.23.58-9.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes mysqlclient14-4.1.14-4.1 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.1.14-4.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes nano-1.3.8-1.2 -------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3.8-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes nasm-0.98.39-3.2 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 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1.0.2-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes pygtk2-2.8.4-1.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.8.4-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes pykickstart-0.18-1 ------------------ * Thu Feb 09 2006 Chris Lumens 0.18-1 - Fix some errors pychecker caught. - Allow exceptions to not be fatal so ksvalidator can spot more errors in a single pass (#179894). pyorbit-2.0.1-4.2 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.0.1-4.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes pyparted-1.6.10-1.2 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.6.10-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes python-2.4.2-3.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.4.2-3.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes python-elementtree-1.2.6-4.2 ---------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.6-4.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes python-ldap-0:2.0.6-5.2 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 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Harris 7.0-1 - Bumped version to 7.0-1 and rebuilt. xorg-x11-font-utils-1:1.0.1-1.1 ------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-resutils-1.0.1-1.1 --------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-server-utils-1.0.1-1.1 ------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-twm-1:1.0.1-1.1 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-util-macros-1.0.1-1.1 ------------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-utils-1.0.1-1.1 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-xauth-1:1.0.1-1.1 -------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-xbitmaps-1.0.1-1.1 --------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-xdm-1:1.0.1-1.1 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-xfs-1:1.0.1-2 ---------------------- * Thu Feb 09 2006 Mike A. Harris 1:1.0.1-2 - Removed invocation of fc-cache from xfs initscript for bug (#179362) - Redirect stderr to /dev/null to squelch an unwanted error xfs.init (#155349) - Replace "s#^/.*:[a-z]*$##g" with "s#:unscaled$##g" in xfs.init for (#179491) - Cosmetic cleanups to spec file to satiate the banshees. * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating 1:1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-xfwp-1.0.1-1.1 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.1-1.1 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-xkb-utils-1.0.1-1.1 ---------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-xkbdata-1.0.1-2 ------------------------ * Thu Feb 09 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-2 - Added xkbdata-1.0.1-sysreq-fix-bug175661.patch to fix (#175661) xorg-x11-xsm-1.0.1-1.1 ---------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-xtrans-devel-1.0.0-3.1 ------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0-3.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xpdf-1:3.01-11.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:3.01-11.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xrestop-0.2-6.2 --------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.2-6.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xsane-0.99-2.1 -------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.99-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xscreensaver-1:4.24-1 --------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:4.23-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xsri-1:2.1.0-9.2 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:2.1.0-9.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xterm-208-1.1 ------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 208-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes yaboot-1.3.13-0.17 ------------------ * Thu Feb 09 2006 Paul Nasrat - 1.3.13-0.17 - Fix ofpath for multi-disk G5 (#180182) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3.13-0.16.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes yelp-2.13.4-1.1 --------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.4-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes yp-tools-2.8-8.2 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.8-8.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes ypbind-3:1.17.2-5.2 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 3:1.17.2-5.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes ypserv-2.13-10.1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13-10.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes zip-2.31-1.2 ------------ * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.31-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes zisofs-tools-1.0.6-3.2 ---------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.6-3.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes zlib-1.2.3-1.2 -------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.3-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 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2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 eclipse-bugzilla - 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2.x86_64 requires eclipse-platform = 0:3.1.2 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnome-applet-vm - 0.0.5-1.1.x86_64 requires libvir.so.0()(64bit) gstreamer08-plugins - 0.8.11-6.1.x86_64 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) gstreamer08-plugins - 0.8.11-6.1.x86_64 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) gstreamer08-plugins - 0.8.11-6.1.x86_64 requires /usr/bin/gst-register-0.8 gstreamer08-plugins - 0.8.11-6.1.x86_64 requires gstreamer08 >= 0:0.8.11 gstreamer08-plugins-devel - 0.8.11-6.1.x86_64 requires gstreamer08-devel >= 0:0.8.11 tkinter - 2.4.2-3.1.x86_64 requires libtix.so()(64bit) From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 12:54:15 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:54:15 -0500 Subject: Automounter broken? In-Reply-To: <26292.192.94.41.42.1139556373.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <26292.192.94.41.42.1139556373.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <604aa7910602100454nd3ba03cn6bab2680392836b9@mail.gmail.com> On 2/10/06, Steven Haigh wrote: > After todays rawhide updates, gnome automounting for USB devices (ie USB > key or USB2 HDD) seem to be broken. > > Anyone else see this? I see broken behavior but I'm not sure its the automounting...or the problem is with nautilus, not "seeing" the devices even though gnome-volume-manager is doing its job. I'm still testing different scenarios. -jef From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 13:21:45 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:21:45 -0500 Subject: p8023: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel. Message-ID: p8023: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel. A bit odd, isn't it? From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Fri Feb 10 13:32:42 2006 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:32:42 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name Message-ID: Karsten Fischer on 02/10/2006 05:01 AM added: > Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 09:14 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:03:33AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 17:04 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > > > > > > > Specific examples, please. Or you have to be kidding. > > > > > > Easily. I put in a media called "Tax2005" and its is mounted > > > on /media/Tax2005, regardless of which drive > > > (DVD-ROM,CD-ROM,DVD/CD-Writer, CD-Writer) I use. > > > > In other words depending on which CD, and in which order you stuck > > in one of your multiple drives (volume labels are far from unique) > > you are looking for your data in different places in a directory > > treee. Extreme consistency indeed. > > Really? I put in the CD "Tax2005" - let me check this, yes - and it is > mounted, every time, on every device, as /media/Tax2005. So instead of > looking in /media/cdrecorder0 or /media/cdrecorder1 I look > in /media/Tax2005. And when I get that CD from my co-worker, or a customer, and put it in my drive, I have no idea what directory to look for. I now have to scan '/media' looking for a change... ...Oh that must be where to find the files (this time). Every CD I get will be in a different spot and every time I'm going to have to go a hunting, even thought its always in the same physical and logical drive. Give me the good old days... it was a whole lot more intuitive, not to mention convienient. This sounds similar to a problem I had with logical volumes a few weeks ago.... I was migrating from FC3 to FC4, so I installed FC4 onto a new drive, and then wanted to mount my old FC3 drive, and copy over my personal files. But with the LVM turned on by default, I had no idea what to mount. And because it had the same volume name/group as the existing FC4 drive, I couldn't figure out how to add a second volume group to the system. Especially since the one I was trying to add had the same name as the one already running. The documentation didn't help, and between me and and associate, we never figured out how to accomplish the job. Fortunately I had a backup of my data, because by the end of the attempt, my old FC3 disk had been trashed. Moral of the story... I no longer use the default of LVM, because it gets in the way, by trying to be too cutesy with names rather than raw devices. On the other hand, _maybe_ there was a way to do it, but dammed it we could figure it out from the documentation. :-( From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Fri Feb 10 12:07:10 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:07:10 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139518847.2952.28.camel@mjolnir> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139518847.2952.28.camel@mjolnir> Message-ID: <43EC81EE.90805@herakles.homelinux.org> John Morris wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 03:03, Karsten Fischer wrote: > > >>Easily. I put in a media called "Tax2005" and its is mounted >>on /media/Tax2005, regardless of which drive >>(DVD-ROM,CD-ROM,DVD/CD-Writer, CD-Writer) I use. > > > And for your use that is a good thing. Been lurking on this thread and > pondering. I think everyone is seeing a part of the elephant. I'd like > to back up and try to see the whole critter. > > Way I see it there are a variety of competing visions here, none of > which satify everyone. But when we boil it down we are looking at the > problem of what to do with removable media. These are the factors I see > going into the decision process: > > 1. The volume name > > 2. The device the media is inserted into. For this purpose we must > count USB ports individually as devices, probably even allow for ports > on hubs to be declared a seperate 'device.' Take a look at the subject line. We're primarily discussing CDs (amd DVDs which are in all relevant respects the same as CDs). The question of what to do with USB media is different in several respects: USB media are relativly few in number. I regularly buy magazines with CDs or DVDs attached: I have dozens, maybe hundreds, of those. I note that blank CD and DVD media are sold in spindles of up to 100. In contrast, I have about four USB disk enclosures with notebook or desktop drives inside, and one USB2 flash drive. The filesystem labels on those are mostly my choice, and I have no problem recalling that my flash drive gets mounted at /media/USB_DISK. The CDs and DVDs filesystem labels are chosen by the person who prepares the ISO file, and there are three ways I obtain them: 1. Incidentally to the purchase of a magazine or book to which they are attached. We might as well include commercial software here as the significant difference is which, the media or other materials, is of primary value. 2. Burned from ISOs downloaded, whether they contain Linux, *BSD, or the latest firmware for my Acer laptop (yes, the firmware comes on an image which is to be burned to CD) 3. Self-created images, such as for backup or data transfer. In the first two case I have no control over the filesystem name, and unless and until I mount the media I have no way of finding out. In the third case I don't usually bother using a volume label as the essential info is what I write on the disk (write-once) or the label I insert in the case (RW media). I reiterate: as I see it the requirements for CDs and DVDs on the one hand and USB media on the other hand are different. The latter, I the owner control, whereas in the case of the former, I the owner do not control and generally don't know. Showing the volume label on the desktop is a different question, and my answer to that is that it's a fine thing to do. It happens after it's mounted. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Fri Feb 10 12:19:13 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:19:13 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <200602081848.01351.jpearson42@wowway.com> References: <200602081701.07866.jpearson42@wowway.com> <43EA7627.7030104@herakles.homelinux.org> <200602081848.01351.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: <43EC84C1.8010200@herakles.homelinux.org> John Pearson wrote: > On Wednesday 08 February 2006 5:52 pm, John Summerfied wrote: > > >>>... >>>Your point is well taken. I will have to check, but is controlling the >>>volume name, i.e. 'cdrom', sufficient to guarantee a known mount? >> >>No. >>It does not happen that way, with CDs or DVDs, on FC3 or RHEL 4, and >>RHEL 4 and before will be here for years to come. Heck, RHL 7.3 is still >>around (and supported by Fedora Legacy). > > > My base personal machine is running FC4; but it was originally built, 3 sets > of hardware ago, with RH 7.3. The combination dvd player/cdrecorder has > always mounted as /media/cdrecorder. The base server machine is running FC3, It must be RHL 7.3 Special Edition then. Here's my fairly fresh RHL 7.3 system: [summer at Pelican summer]$ rpm -qf /etc/redhat-release redhat-release-7.3-1 [summer at Pelican summer]$ ls -d /m* drwxr-xr-x 4 root 4096 Jan 3 08:39 /mnt [summer at Pelican summer]$ No /media directory you note. Nor was there on 6.2, 5.{0,1,2} nor RHL 4.{0,1,2} noe RHL 3.0.3. I used them all; probably 6.0 and 6.1 too, though I can't recall for sure. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Fri Feb 10 09:33:37 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:33:37 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <43EC5DF1.6050002@herakles.homelinux.org> Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 15:22 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > >>I still scratch my head what you are gaining by mounting removable >>media at some pseudo-random locations. They are effectively random >>as a volume name is not apparent from a shape of some CD. It may >>even be empty. As it was noted on a desktop you have a label with >>that volume name anyway. >> > > > Ease of use in the end, that is the gain, at least from a certain > perspective. And yes, on the desktop the volume label is present. So I > really would assume that somewhere in the directory structure this label > turns up, so that I can access the given volume without the knowledge > about on which physical drive it is actually inserted, it may be my > DVD-ROM, my CD-ROM, my DVD-Writer or even some pretty obscure device Mostly, people have one, maybe two, optical drives. Those who care have little problem recalling that cdrom0 is the top one, cdrom1 the bottom one (or whatever applies). Those who don't care, of course don't care so the same convention can apply without causing confusion or inconvenience. > which might even be as hotpluggable as hell. It simply doesn't make > sense to me that a volume on the Desktop appears differently from its > real mount point. Everything else is a bit like Windows, where _why_ does it matter to you that the two names are the same? Would you feel differently if you were working entirely at a bash prompt? > everything seems to be around drive C:\ or D:\ and so on. > > When I do insert a DVD into the drive I am certainly more interested in > its content than its physical appearance. and if you're working at the commandline and it mounts at /dev/dvd I'm guessing you will find that less confusing than guessing what the blessed volume's internal label us. For most of _my_ CD and DVD collection, probably all, there is _no_ way of telling by looking at it what the internal label is. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Fri Feb 10 12:33:51 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:33:51 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <43EB17A3.1030707@feuerpokemon.de> References: <43EB17A3.1030707@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <43EC882F.9010503@herakles.homelinux.org> dragoran wrote: > alan wrote: > >> On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, John Summerfied wrote: >> >> >> >>> dragoran wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> what about adding a symlink from /media/cdrom to /media/volumename ? >>>> wouldn't break old apps, and thus ho preffer the new behaviour can >>>> use it. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> What problem does the new behaviour solve? >>> >> >> >> None that I can see. Nautilus already puts desciptive text on the icon >> that a gui user would use. A command line user will use tab >> completion and trial and error to figure out where the data is at. >> Legacy programs understand a fixed point in the filesystem. If the new behaviour does not solve any problem then there is no justification for it. >> >> Except this symlink would need to be added by the automounter code, as >> it will have to be created and destroyed by mounts and unmounts. What problem does a symlink solve? >> >> The problem here is not gui v.s. command line. The problem is user >> v.s. program. No it's not just that. I, a user, would be well-pleased to be able to insert a CD and mount it _myself_ at /media/cdrom. No automount. No dynamically-created mount points depending on what the volume label says. Not even different mount points depending on wheter it's a -ROM drive or a -writer drive or whether I insert a CD or DVD. No symlinks either; different names for the same thing only get in the way. My laptop has a DVD writer in it, and is running SUSE 10. Suse creates /media/cdrom /media/dvdrom /media/cdwriter /media/dvdwriter and when there's a mounted CD/DVD /media/ All but one are symlinks. All this proliferation of names does is bugger up tab-completion, which I try to use extensively. >> >> A user can figure out (hopefully) where the drive mounted. A program >> is going to have to have some sort of defined method to find out where >> the cdrom is at. (Not to mention the security implications of >> trusting a symlink as a mounted drive. Any sane program would not >> open a symlink for any removable media.) >> >> > then use the old mount points and add a link /media/volume -> /media/cdromX > Those how prefer /media/volume would not care if it is a symlink or not. But /media/volume doesn't solve any problem, does it? > A desktop user would either click on the desktop icon or on the icon in > computer:/// so they don't have to care about mount points anyway. Exactly. > So where is the point in having /media/volume ? It makes more problems > than it solves (if any) > -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Fri Feb 10 12:45:06 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:45:06 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139442547.2565.32.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EA7689.5070006@herakles.homelinux.org> <1139439940.2565.1.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EA7A48.30208@herakles.homelinux.org> <1139442547.2565.32.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <43EC8AD2.9020804@herakles.homelinux.org> Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 07:10 +0800 schrieb John Summerfied: > > >>Because OS X isn't Linux and different rules apply. On OS X, I do things >>the OS X way. >> > > > That doesn't explain a lot, now does it? Things do evolve, and sometimes My point is the irrelevance of OS X in this instance. Apple has set its own standards for its own variant of Unix. > a change like this could make working with a computer a lot easier for > those who have to work with but neither have the time nor the motivation > to explore a computers internals. And how should I explain it to a > customer: "Yes, of course you see the the CD-ROM and its content on your > desktop, and yes, the CD has a descriptive name (label) like "Tax2005", > and no, you won't find it within your Filesystem , you have to guess its > device..." Who cares about its device name? What desktop user cares about the mount point, unless to type at it? If you choose the volume from an icon or menu, its mount-point is irrelevant. OTOH if you're going to type its name, that name becomes quite important. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Fri Feb 10 09:35:04 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:35:04 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <43EC5E48.9060303@herakles.homelinux.org> Karsten Fischer wrote: >> >>Specific examples, please. Or you have to be kidding. > > > Easily. I put in a media called "Tax2005" and its is mounted How do you know it's called Tax2005? In my experience CDs and DVDs rarely have such labelling. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Fri Feb 10 09:37:07 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:37:07 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139479083.2657.15.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139477352.1084.170.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> <1139479083.2657.15.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <43EC5EC3.7080500@herakles.homelinux.org> Karsten Fischer wrote: > HAS changed. > > The difference between our positions seems to be that you are referring > to the CD-Drive as the physical media and I refer to the actual CD as > the physical media. > No, the physical drive on many of my systems is /dev/hdc I'd like the mount point for whatever media I insert in it to be /mnt/cdrom (even if it's a DVD drive). -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Fri Feb 10 12:46:04 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:46:04 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139479068.2657.13.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EA7689.5070006@herakles.homelinux.org> <1139439940.2565.1.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EA7A48.30208@herakles.homelinux.org> <1139442547.2565.32.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139470198.1084.162.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> <1139479068.2657.13.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <43EC8B0C.3070708@herakles.homelinux.org> Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 08:29 +0100 schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > >>>And how should I explain it to a >>>customer: "Yes, of course you see the the CD-ROM and its content on your >>>desktop, and yes, the CD has a descriptive name (label) like "Tax2005", >>>and no, you won't find it within your Filesystem , you have to guess its >>>device..." >> >>You are mixing up medium with contents. Both a separate topics. > > > Do I? Lets have a look. The content is the data on the CD, correct? The > medium is the CD, still right? The CD-Drive is just a means of getting > the content from the medium. There is a huge difference between going to > a newsstand and ask for a newspaper and going to a newsstand and ask > for, let's say, the New York Times. Look back, you said "device." -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Fri Feb 10 12:40:17 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:40:17 +0800 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060209052825.GA11694@mail.harddata.com> References: <1139391055.3111.14.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139392146.3050.5.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139393021.3111.24.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <1139394466.3050.28.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208190422.GC28299@mail.harddata.com> <20060209052825.GA11694@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <43EC89B1.7050904@herakles.homelinux.org> Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 09:31:19PM -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: > .... > >>and as long as I can still use commands like "umount /dev/hdc" > > > This possibly you can - IF you will edit your /etc/fstab and add a > corresponding entry unless you plan to do that only as root. In > this particular case you are lucky because /dev/hdc is not likely to > change. No? Are not SATA drives /dev/sd - just like SCSI and USB? Is not SATA hot-pluggable? Even without SATA, I recently had three spinning devices inside USB2 enclosures attached to my laptop. Order of attachment (more accurately, detection) is important. That is a problem the use of filesystem labels can help with, but it's far less likely to be beneficial with optical media. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From netwiz at crc.id.au Fri Feb 10 15:31:05 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 02:31:05 +1100 (EST) Subject: What happened to all the gnome screensavers? Message-ID: <53252.203.56.246.92.1139585465.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> It looks like all the previous xscreensavers are gone! Looks like now only the ones in /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/themes are used - with the ones in /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/* being ignored. Is this part of a migration or an oversight? From berryja at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 15:31:23 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:31:23 -0600 Subject: Firefox startup behaviour In-Reply-To: <1139568690.11290.16.camel@heplnw8.pp.rl.ac.uk> References: <1139568690.11290.16.camel@heplnw8.pp.rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8767947e0602100731k4f439d1bgfc7d68a50c61ca61@mail.gmail.com> On 2/10/06, William John Murray wrote: > There is a minor, but annoying, behaviour with the firefox launching > behaviour in FC5T2. If I click on a link, e.g. in an email, firefox > is launched. Good. If I click on a second link it is not launched again, > but instead a new tab is opened. Fine. > However, if the original window is on a different workspace, then I > get no feedback that anything has happened. > > This has obviously been worked on: If there are two existing firefox > sessions the one in the current workspace is used. IF that is iconised > it is opened. > But can we go one step further, and open a new window if the existing > one is off workspace? This should be controlled by Firefox. There is a setting in Firefox that controls where new links are opened. Edit->Preferences->Tabs->"Open links from other applications in:" I would not expect that Firefox can know what workspace it is on and if that is not the current workspace. Jonathan From dwalsh at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 15:33:20 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel Walsh) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:33:20 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: selinux-policy-targeted-1.27.1-2.22 Message-ID: <200602101533.k1AFXK118810@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-101 2006-02-10 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : selinux-policy-targeted Version : 1.27.1 Release : 2.22 Summary : SELinux targeted policy configuration Description : Security-enhanced Linux is a patch of the Linux?? kernel and a number of utilities with enhanced security functionality designed to add mandatory access controls to Linux. The Security-enhanced Linux kernel contains new architectural components originally developed to improve the security of the Flask operating system. These architectural components provide general support for the enforcement of many kinds of mandatory access control policies, including those based on the concepts of Type Enforcement??, Role-based Access Control, and Multi-level Security. This package contains the SELinux example policy configuration along with the Flask configuration information and the application configuration files. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Zebra was still broken. Hopefully fixed by this update. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Thu Feb 9 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.22 - Allow zebra to connect to bgp * Mon Feb 6 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.21 - Allow zebra to use bgp - Allow spamd to connect to razor * Wed Jan 18 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.20 - Add ldap support to spamd - Auditing changes * Wed Jan 18 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.19 - Add support for labeled networking in upcoming kernel - Fix man page and booleans file --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 4cf9502b217ad6db30370d10b1d9a086e2f1ab5c SRPMS/selinux-policy-targeted-1.27.1-2.22.src.rpm 4da40fc2a9c97aa820326382e8b5091a7daf0e78 ppc/selinux-policy-targeted-1.27.1-2.22.noarch.rpm e76d5dd561a8aedcaaf2972b7cfb79a3c35790b1 ppc/selinux-policy-targeted-sources-1.27.1-2.22.noarch.rpm 4da40fc2a9c97aa820326382e8b5091a7daf0e78 x86_64/selinux-policy-targeted-1.27.1-2.22.noarch.rpm e76d5dd561a8aedcaaf2972b7cfb79a3c35790b1 x86_64/selinux-policy-targeted-sources-1.27.1-2.22.noarch.rpm 4da40fc2a9c97aa820326382e8b5091a7daf0e78 i386/selinux-policy-targeted-1.27.1-2.22.noarch.rpm e76d5dd561a8aedcaaf2972b7cfb79a3c35790b1 i386/selinux-policy-targeted-sources-1.27.1-2.22.noarch.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwalsh at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 15:33:21 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel Walsh) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:33:21 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: selinux-policy-strict-1.27.1-2.22 Message-ID: <200602101533.k1AFXL118816@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-101 2006-02-10 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : selinux-policy-strict Version : 1.27.1 Release : 2.22 Summary : SELinux strict policy configuration Description : Security-enhanced Linux is a patch of the Linux?? kernel and a number of utilities with enhanced security functionality designed to add mandatory access controls to Linux. The Security-enhanced Linux kernel contains new architectural components originally developed to improve the security of the Flask operating system. These architectural components provide general support for the enforcement of many kinds of mandatory access control policies, including those based on the concepts of Type Enforcement??, Role-based Access Control, and Multi-level Security. This package contains the SELinux example policy configuration along with the Flask configuration information and the application configuration files. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Zebra was still broken. Hopefully fixed by this update. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Thu Feb 9 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.22 - Allow zebra to connect to bgp * Mon Feb 6 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.21 - Allow zebra to use bgp - Allow spamd to connect to razor * Wed Jan 18 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.20 - Add ldap support to spamd - Auditing changes * Wed Jan 18 2006 Dan Walsh 1.27.1-2.19 - Add support for labeled networking in upcoming kernel - Fix man page and booleans file --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 756b2029d0c16158fe0961868b475ec4dad972ba SRPMS/selinux-policy-strict-1.27.1-2.22.src.rpm 119d38860f5b4b21b8a6a69e1b11421c5800893b ppc/selinux-policy-strict-1.27.1-2.22.noarch.rpm 35e8b6bb5aaea23a86a3bd88820c39a47e3997da ppc/selinux-policy-strict-sources-1.27.1-2.22.noarch.rpm 119d38860f5b4b21b8a6a69e1b11421c5800893b x86_64/selinux-policy-strict-1.27.1-2.22.noarch.rpm 35e8b6bb5aaea23a86a3bd88820c39a47e3997da x86_64/selinux-policy-strict-sources-1.27.1-2.22.noarch.rpm 119d38860f5b4b21b8a6a69e1b11421c5800893b i386/selinux-policy-strict-1.27.1-2.22.noarch.rpm 35e8b6bb5aaea23a86a3bd88820c39a47e3997da i386/selinux-policy-strict-sources-1.27.1-2.22.noarch.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl Fri Feb 10 15:55:02 2006 From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:55:02 +0100 Subject: gweather-applet-2 crashes In-Reply-To: <43EBF66D.8050702@insight.rr.com> References: <1137597554.3941.1.camel@zaphod.graze.net> <43CF0D7A.80501@insight.rr.com> <43EBF66D.8050702@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20060210155502.GB24862@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:11:57PM -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >Brian C. Huffman wrote: > > > >>After today's rawhide update (and actually since the big gnome-session > >>crash creator), gweather-applet-2 still fails to load. When I try to > >>add to the panel, it dies. > >> > >>I don't know how to recreate on the command line - > >>typing /usr/lib/gweather-applet-2 just hangs. > >> > >>Brian > > follow-up: > The applet for gweather now loads for me. Confirmed. Works for me, too. (Finally!) ^_^ Regards, -- Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling Warsaw University | http://www.icm.edu.pl | tel. +48 (22) 5540810 From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl Fri Feb 10 15:57:37 2006 From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:57:37 +0100 Subject: What happened to all the gnome screensavers? In-Reply-To: <53252.203.56.246.92.1139585465.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <53252.203.56.246.92.1139585465.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <20060210155737.GC24862@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 02:31:05AM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > It looks like all the previous xscreensavers are gone! > > Looks like now only the ones in /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/themes are > used - with the ones in /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/* being ignored. > > Is this part of a migration or an oversight? rpm -e gnome-screensaver yum install xscreensaver-extras xscreensaver-gl-extras Regards, -- Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling Warsaw University | http://www.icm.edu.pl | tel. +48 (22) 5540810 From netwiz at crc.id.au Fri Feb 10 16:14:28 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:14:28 +1100 (EST) Subject: What happened to all the gnome screensavers? In-Reply-To: <20060210155737.GC24862@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> References: <53252.203.56.246.92.1139585465.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060210155737.GC24862@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> Message-ID: <56534.203.56.246.92.1139588068.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> > On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 02:31:05AM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: >> It looks like all the previous xscreensavers are gone! >> >> Looks like now only the ones in /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/themes are >> used - with the ones in /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/* being ignored. >> >> Is this part of a migration or an oversight? > > rpm -e gnome-screensaver > yum install xscreensaver-extras xscreensaver-gl-extras Ahhh ok... I just removed gnome-screensaver and everything came back to normal. Must be new :P From guy at incentre.net Fri Feb 10 16:47:51 2006 From: guy at incentre.net (Guy Fraser) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:47:51 -0700 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060209164650.GF735844@hiwaay.net> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081502o20657d9ct553e7f252329ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <20060209003307.GF1554089@hiwaay.net> <1139476528.2565.58.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209164650.GF735844@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1139590071.4149.41.camel@sigurd.incentre.net> Why not try to figure out what is causing you grief and fix it yourselves. Have you tried adding entries *like* these to your /etc/fstab : /dev/hdd /media/cdrom auto pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 /dev/hdc /media/cdrecorder auto pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 Have you tried anything to figure out what might be causing you problem. I know I have done my fair share of complaining about things I can't easily fix, but come on I havn't seen a single post where any of you have shown any evidence you have tried to figure it out. This forum is not for mindless automatons, it is assumed that you are willing to try to figure out some things on your own. If you are not willing to figure out some things on your own then wipe your hard drive and install a commercial operating system with a support contract. P.S. I fully expect an "Et tu Brutus" from somebody, but "Let the one without sin cast the first stone". From don_springall at hotmail.com Fri Feb 10 16:51:09 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:51:09 -0700 Subject: Yum update cron Jobs Message-ID: Is anyone working on improvements to yum so a cron job can be scheduled to update everything and not fail due to dependency errors ? If so what is the time line for this feature ? Does anyone know if SUSE's smart package manager will resolve all dependency problems and run as a cron job ? From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 16:58:01 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:58:01 -0500 Subject: Yum update cron Jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa7910602100858g51f2025fka978f2b8608bca0f@mail.gmail.com> On 2/10/06, Don Springall wrote: > Is anyone working on improvements to yum so a cron job can be scheduled to > update everything and not fail due to dependency errors ? If so what is the > time line for this feature ? http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/yum has example scripts to automate working around dependance problems to apply as many updates as possible. These scripts can of course be cronjob'd. yum has its own development mailinglist for discussion about the roadmap of yum development. -jef From michal at harddata.com Fri Feb 10 16:58:32 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:58:32 -0700 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <1139565699.4102.46.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209161420.GA24412@mail.harddata.com> <1139565699.4102.46.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <20060210165832.GB21865@mail.harddata.com> On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:01:38AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 09:14 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:03:33AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 17:04 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > > > > > > > Specific examples, please. Or you have to be kidding. > > > > > > Easily. I put in a media called "Tax2005" and its is mounted > > > on /media/Tax2005, regardless of which drive > > > (DVD-ROM,CD-ROM,DVD/CD-Writer, CD-Writer) I use. > > > > In other words depending on which CD, and in which order you stuck > > in one of your multiple drives (volume labels are far from unique) > > you are looking for your data in different places in a directory > > treee. Extreme consistency indeed. > > Really? I put in the CD "Tax2005" - let me check this, yes - and it is > mounted, every time, on every device, as /media/Tax2005. No, this is clearly false in general. You wrote yourself that you have more than one device where you can put such disk. If you happen to have more that one CD with a volume label "Tax2005", which is far from impossible, and you put another already and now you are sticking the original one into another reader, then it will NOT get mounted under /media/Tax2005. > The problem is to look at the pros and cons > and to find out if the gain outweighs the drawbacks. Which, in this > case, I think it does. How come when you have exactly zero gains and you create a huge mess elsewhere? Michal From admin at ramshacklestudios.com Fri Feb 10 17:05:41 2006 From: admin at ramshacklestudios.com (Peter Gordon) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:05:41 -0800 Subject: Yum update cron Jobs Message-ID: > Is anyone working on improvements to yum so a cron job can be > scheduled to update everything and not fail due to dependency > errors ? If so what is the time line for this feature ? Yum has a nightly update cron that you can enable like any other service: # chkconfig yum on If the update fails due to dependency issues, then you must manually run something such as `yum --exclude=broken-pkg update`. I'm not sure how safe a "skip the errors" Yum would be, as you could be potentially breaking your system if not careful. :-/ ~~Peter From don_springall at hotmail.com Fri Feb 10 17:10:46 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:10:46 -0700 Subject: Yum update cron Jobs Message-ID: >From: Jeff Spaleta >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: Yum update cron Jobs >Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:58:01 -0500 > >On 2/10/06, Don Springall wrote: > > Is anyone working on improvements to yum so a cron job can be scheduled >to > > update everything and not fail due to dependency errors ? If so what is >the > > time line for this feature ? > >http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/yum >has example scripts to automate working around dependence problems to >apply as many updates as possible. These scripts can of course be >cronjob'd. > >yum has its own development mailinglist for discussion about the >roadmap of yum development. > >-jef Yes I have seen that script. It is rather silly to be running it when you have over one thousand packages to install. In fact it borders on being a bad joke. From alan at clueserver.org Fri Feb 10 17:15:12 2006 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:15:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Yum update cron Jobs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Don Springall wrote: > Is anyone working on improvements to yum so a cron job can be scheduled to > update everything and not fail due to dependency errors ? If so what is the > time line for this feature ? "yum -y update" will run in a cron job unattended. As for dependancies... That depends on a whole bunch of things out of yum's (or any package manager's) control. If the repositories do not resolve for the set of packages you have installed, there will be a problem. (Especially if you are using test versions.) If you use more than just the standard repositories, you run a risk of things not resolving. (Especially if you have "alternate" versions of software installed or add-ons to software in the main repository, or a library that is in different repositories under different names.) For example: You have package A from main that depends on Library Z version 0.1.1. Package B from Fred's repository also depends on that library. Library Z gets updated to 0.1.2. Package A also gets updated to deal with that update. If package B does not get updated by Fred, Yum will not be able to resolve the dependancies. Also, if someone forgot to rebuild a dependacy in extras, you might see a problem. (Usually only happens in Rawhide, but sometimes people miss things.) Sometimes there are situations that yum should be able to resolve, but can't. If you have an x86_64 install, you can have multiple installs of a library with different architectures. If you try to update package A and it needs library Z updated, it will only update for the current architecture, not for all architectures for which library Z is installed. It does not effect a full upgrade, however. > Does anyone know if SUSE's smart package manager will resolve all dependency > problems and run as a cron job ? It will have the same problems as described above. Dependancy resolution is not magic. It cannot be resolved by the package manager if the packages are not built correctly or if there are missing pieces. It is like blaming your kid for being unable to complete a jigsaw puzzle when the pieces were never included in the box. If you stick with the standard repositories and a limited number of packages, you should not have a problem. You should always have an option to flag someone if there are errors for any automatic software update process. -- "George W. Bush -- Bringing back the Sixties one Nixon at a time." From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 17:16:43 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:16:43 -0500 Subject: Yum update cron Jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa7910602100916w6ddd817br3d97ae0383c95536@mail.gmail.com> On 2/10/06, Don Springall wrote: > Yes I have seen that script. It is rather silly to be running it when you > have over one thousand packages to install. In fact it borders on being a > bad joke. are you here to add pointless commentary or are you here look for solutions to your problems? pointing out the limitations in yum's feature set in this list...and editorializing in the way you have chosen to.. isn't constructive. yum's roadmap is NOT decided here. take a hint... and if you ever decide to move your discussion upstream attempt to be civil about your complaints. -jef"i said good day!"spaleta From alan at clueserver.org Fri Feb 10 17:23:42 2006 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:23:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <20060210165832.GB21865@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:01:38AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, den 09.02.2006, 09:14 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:03:33AM +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2006, 17:04 -0700 schrieb Michal Jaegermann: > > > > > > > > > > Specific examples, please. Or you have to be kidding. > > > > > > > > Easily. I put in a media called "Tax2005" and its is mounted > > > > on /media/Tax2005, regardless of which drive > > > > (DVD-ROM,CD-ROM,DVD/CD-Writer, CD-Writer) I use. > > > > > > In other words depending on which CD, and in which order you stuck > > > in one of your multiple drives (volume labels are far from unique) > > > you are looking for your data in different places in a directory > > > treee. Extreme consistency indeed. > > > > Really? I put in the CD "Tax2005" - let me check this, yes - and it is > > mounted, every time, on every device, as /media/Tax2005. > > No, this is clearly false in general. You wrote yourself that you > have more than one device where you can put such disk. If you > happen to have more that one CD with a volume label "Tax2005", which > is far from impossible, and you put another already and now you are > sticking the original one into another reader, then it will NOT get > mounted under /media/Tax2005. It also depends on the user knowing what the volume name is and expecting it to mount under that name. Is there any version of Linux that does that currently? All installers that I know of expect a static mount point,. HAL is new. Anything that was written before then will not work. They will have to write a special case for Fedora > 4 just because someone wanted a pretty looking mount point. > > The problem is to look at the pros and cons > > and to find out if the gain outweighs the drawbacks. Which, in this > > case, I think it does. > > How come when you have exactly zero gains and you create a huge > mess elsewhere? Every installer for Linux that I have depends on a static mount point. Install Quake 4 or Doom 3 or Unreal Tournement 2004 or any other multi-disc install and watch what happens. Regular users are not going to know how to hack around this. The rest of us are going to be pissed that we do have to hack around it. I still don't get why we need this change. When I plug in my 60 gig usb laptop drive, it does not give the volume name in Nautilus, it just describes the drive. ("55.9 gig drive" or somesuch.) Why not just have the Nautilus icon display the volume name and leave the mount point alone? -- "George W. Bush -- Bringing back the Sixties one Nixon at a time." From don_springall at hotmail.com Fri Feb 10 17:25:28 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:25:28 -0700 Subject: Yum update cron Jobs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >From: alan >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: Yum update cron Jobs >Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:15:12 -0800 (PST) > >On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Don Springall wrote: > > > Is anyone working on improvements to yum so a cron job can be scheduled >to > > update everything and not fail due to dependency errors ? If so what is >the > > time line for this feature ? > >"yum -y update" will run in a cron job unattended. > >As for dependancies... > >That depends on a whole bunch of things out of yum's (or any package >manager's) control. > >If the repositories do not resolve for the set of packages you have >installed, there will be a problem. (Especially if you are using test >versions.) > >If you use more than just the standard repositories, you run a risk of >things not resolving. (Especially if you have "alternate" versions of >software installed or add-ons to software in the main repository, or a >library that is in different repositories under different names.) > >For example: > >You have package A from main that depends on Library Z version 0.1.1. >Package B from Fred's repository also depends on that library. Library Z >gets updated to 0.1.2. Package A also gets updated to deal with that >update. If package B does not get updated by Fred, Yum will not be able >to resolve the dependancies. > >Also, if someone forgot to rebuild a dependacy in extras, you might see a >problem. (Usually only happens in Rawhide, but sometimes people miss >things.) > >Sometimes there are situations that yum should be able to resolve, but >can't. If you have an x86_64 install, you can have multiple installs of a >library with different architectures. If you try to update package A and >it needs library Z updated, it will only update for the current >architecture, not for all architectures for which library Z is installed. >It does not effect a full upgrade, however. > > > Does anyone know if SUSE's smart package manager will resolve all >dependency > > problems and run as a cron job ? > >It will have the same problems as described above. > >Dependancy resolution is not magic. It cannot be resolved by the package >manager if the packages are not built correctly or if there are missing >pieces. > >It is like blaming your kid for being unable to complete a jigsaw puzzle >when the pieces were never included in the box. > >If you stick with the standard repositories and a limited number of >packages, you should not have a problem. You should always have an option >to flag someone if there are errors for any automatic software update >process. > >-- >"George W. Bush -- Bringing back the Sixties one Nixon at a time." > So you are telling me that there is no one out there that cannot write a program to run rpm - q --whatrequires for all those broken dependencies, parse that and create a exclude list for yum update ? From streeter at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 17:28:26 2006 From: streeter at redhat.com (Guy Streeter) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:28:26 -0600 Subject: later kernals hand at boot - udev? In-Reply-To: <20060209213844.12553.qmail@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060209213844.12553.qmail@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1139592506.3434.4.camel@mentos.hsv.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 13:38 -0800, Mick Mearns wrote: > Hi; > kernels later than 1985 will not boot for me. (FC5T2) > > [root at localhost ~]# uname -r > 2.6.15-1.1895_FC5 > > I update every day, the latest is: 2.6.15-1.1915_FC5 > > Gives during the boot: > .............................................................. > > Starting udev: [ok] > Loading default keymap (us): [ok] > Setting hostname localhost.localdomain: [ok] > ======================= > - (hangs with cursor here) > ............................................................. More recent kernels have some debugging code that can make the kernel pause for two minutes after certain kernel events. I found that my notebook, which used to print "Disabling IRQ 6" at that point, now pauses for 4 minutes and then continues to boot. --Guy From bruno at wolff.to Fri Feb 10 17:39:27 2006 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:39:27 -0600 Subject: Documentation on building ISOs from daily snapshots? Message-ID: <20060210173927.GA24872@wolff.to> I am interesting in testing out FC5 over the weekend and would like to be able to make ISOs from the daily RPM snapshots rather than using test 2 ISOs and trying to update. Is there documentation someplace on how to do this? I haven't run accross anything that says how to know which rpm to put on which ISO. I know that test 3 is going to be released next week, but one of my mirrored drives failed last week and I bought two new larger drives instead of one new smaller drive and now have the new drives in my possession and would like to try to get them in use over the weekend. Since I am probably going to want to start using FC5 early on, I figured I would try out the current test version since I need to effective do an install anyway. From michael.favia at insitesinc.com Fri Feb 10 17:34:22 2006 From: michael.favia at insitesinc.com (Michael Favia) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:34:22 -0600 Subject: Firefox startup behaviour In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602100731k4f439d1bgfc7d68a50c61ca61@mail.gmail.com> References: <1139568690.11290.16.camel@heplnw8.pp.rl.ac.uk> <8767947e0602100731k4f439d1bgfc7d68a50c61ca61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43ECCE9E.8080402@insitesinc.com> Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 2/10/06, William John Murray wrote: >> There is a minor, but annoying, behaviour with the firefox launching >> behaviour in FC5T2. If I click on a link, e.g. in an email, firefox >> is launched. Good. If I click on a second link it is not launched again, >> but instead a new tab is opened. Fine. >> However, if the original window is on a different workspace, then I >> get no feedback that anything has happened. >> >> This has obviously been worked on: If there are two existing firefox >> sessions the one in the current workspace is used. IF that is iconised >> it is opened. >> But can we go one step further, and open a new window if the existing >> one is off workspace? > > This should be controlled by Firefox. There is a setting in Firefox > that controls where new links are opened. > Edit->Preferences->Tabs->"Open links from other applications in:" I > would not expect that Firefox can know what workspace it is on and if > that is not the current workspace. > Agreed but it does beg the question as to how you might hint to the window manager that there is something that needs attention in another workspace. I often run into this issue because i utilize all 4 workspace configured on this desktop. A configurable setting at the window manager level with good defaults would be appreciated. In my opinion the default behavior should notify you in the notification area and offer you the ability to switch to the relevant workspace by clicking on it. That way we don't force focus away from current tasks (because these events aren't alway user generated) and we still give them all the information and ability to make the decision. An alternative would be to flash the workspace with the needed attention (much like the flashing application bar activity). I don't think that the application should be raised on the current workspace or that workspaces should ever be automatically switched. Because of the disruptive nature of such events. -mf From berryja at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 17:52:13 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:52:13 -0600 Subject: Firefox startup behaviour In-Reply-To: <43ECCE9E.8080402@insitesinc.com> References: <1139568690.11290.16.camel@heplnw8.pp.rl.ac.uk> <8767947e0602100731k4f439d1bgfc7d68a50c61ca61@mail.gmail.com> <43ECCE9E.8080402@insitesinc.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602100952g7ac36022x457a905f2009840c@mail.gmail.com> On 2/10/06, Michael Favia wrote: > Jonathan Berry wrote: > > On 2/10/06, William John Murray wrote: > >> There is a minor, but annoying, behaviour with the firefox launching > >> behaviour in FC5T2. If I click on a link, e.g. in an email, firefox > >> is launched. Good. If I click on a second link it is not launched again, > >> but instead a new tab is opened. Fine. > >> However, if the original window is on a different workspace, then I > >> get no feedback that anything has happened. > >> > >> This has obviously been worked on: If there are two existing firefox > >> sessions the one in the current workspace is used. IF that is iconised > >> it is opened. > >> But can we go one step further, and open a new window if the existing > >> one is off workspace? > > > > This should be controlled by Firefox. There is a setting in Firefox > > that controls where new links are opened. > > Edit->Preferences->Tabs->"Open links from other applications in:" I > > would not expect that Firefox can know what workspace it is on and if > > that is not the current workspace. > > > Agreed but it does beg the question as to how you might hint to the > window manager that there is something that needs attention in another > workspace. I often run into this issue because i utilize all 4 workspace > configured on this desktop. > > A configurable setting at the window manager level with good defaults > would be appreciated. In my opinion the default behavior should notify > you in the notification area and offer you the ability to switch to the > relevant workspace by clicking on it. That way we don't force focus away > from current tasks (because these events aren't alway user generated) > and we still give them all the information and ability to make the > decision. An alternative would be to flash the workspace with the needed > attention (much like the flashing application bar activity). There is already the flashing application bar stuff. Why couldn't that, say, flash the window as shown in the pager (I think that is the term; the thing that shows the desktops) in that case since it is not in the current task bar list? Of course, this would not work if it was on another workspace and minimized. Unless the activity unminimized it. Perhaps, if the application were minimized, the whole desktop pane in the pager could flash. Something in the notification area might be good, too, in case someone doesn't have a pager or wants something more noticable. Doesn't sound too hard, but should probably be done upstream at Gnome... Also, you would need someway to trigger the flashing. I'm not sure how that is done. > I don't think that the application should be raised on the current > workspace or that workspaces should ever be automatically switched. > Because of the disruptive nature of such events. -mf Absolutely agree with that one. That would also certainly go against Gnome's work on focus stealing prevention (hoping not to ignite another debate over that subject...). Jonathan From moonhyunjin at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 17:56:18 2006 From: moonhyunjin at gmail.com (Hyunjin Moon) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:56:18 -0500 Subject: yum update problme on FC5T2 Message-ID: <8efd4a350602100956t72ac5a8dq@mail.gmail.com> I was executed follow command on Fedora Core 5 Test 2 # yum update Loading "installonlyn" plugin Setting up Update Process Setting up repositories development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 extras-dev: ################################################## 2/2 extras-development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 1.2 MB 00:05 at this point, terminal printed no characters, I continually checked memory usage on another terminal. then I found that memory usage of yum was increasing. about two minutes later, yum used almost memory, then keyboard and mouse were no response. finally, yum had died naturally and keyboard and mouse worked fine. yum version is 2.5.1-4. HELP ME. From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri Feb 10 18:02:42 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:02:42 +0100 Subject: aspell.ppc conflicts with aspell.ppc64 Message-ID: <43ECD542.3050408@gmx.de> hi, aspell.ppc conflicts with aspell.ppc64, how can i install aspell.ppc and squirrelmail? # LANG=C rpm -Uvh /var/cache/yum/development/packages/aspell-0.60.3-3.1.ppc.rpm Preparing... ########################################### [100%] file /usr/bin/run-with-aspell from install of aspell-0.60.3-3.1 conflicts with file from package aspell-0.60.3-3.1 # rpm -q --qf "%{name}-%{epoch}:%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}\n" aspell aspell-12:0.60.3-3.1.ppc64 # LANG=C rpm -e aspell error: Failed dependencies: aspell >= 12:0.60 is needed by (installed) aspell-en-6.0-1.2.ppc64 # yum -d1 install squirrelmail ============================================================================= Package Arch Version Repository Size ============================================================================= Installing: squirrelmail noarch 1.4.6-0.cvs20050812.3.fc5 development 4.9 M Installing for dependencies: aspell ppc 12:0.60.3-3.1 development 998 k curl ppc 7.15.1-1.2 development 277 k libidn ppc 0.6.2-1 development 197 k php ppc 5.1.2-4.1 development 3.9 M php-mbstring ppc 5.1.2-4.1 development 972 k php-pear noarch 1:1.4.6-1 development 350 k Transaction Summary ============================================================================= Install 7 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 11 M Is this ok [y/N]: y Transaction Check Error: file /usr/bin/run-with-aspell from install of aspell-0.60.3-3.1 conflicts with file from package aspell-0.60.3-3.1 -- shrek-m From pgraner at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 18:11:55 2006 From: pgraner at redhat.com (Pete Graner) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:11:55 -0500 Subject: yum update problme on FC5T2 In-Reply-To: <8efd4a350602100956t72ac5a8dq@mail.gmail.com> References: <8efd4a350602100956t72ac5a8dq@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43ECD76B.10208@redhat.com> Hyunjin Moon wrote: > I was executed follow command on Fedora Core 5 Test 2 > > # yum update > Loading "installonlyn" plugin > Setting up Update Process > Setting up repositories > development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 > extras-dev: ################################################## 2/2 > extras-development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 > Reading repository metadata in from local files > primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 1.2 MB 00:05 > > > > at this point, terminal printed no characters, I continually checked > memory usage on another terminal. then I found that memory usage of > yum was increasing. > about two minutes later, yum used almost memory, then keyboard and > mouse were no response. > > finally, yum had died naturally and keyboard and mouse worked fine. > yum version is 2.5.1-4. > > HELP ME. > You'll have to download the latest sqlite-3 package apply it. Check the archives first :) https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00145.html -- Pete Graner email: From bdc at carlstrom.com Fri Feb 10 18:18:10 2006 From: bdc at carlstrom.com (Brian D. Carlstrom) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:18:10 -0800 Subject: aspell.ppc conflicts with aspell.ppc64 In-Reply-To: <43ECD542.3050408@gmx.de> References: <43ECD542.3050408@gmx.de> Message-ID: <17388.55522.14741.688895@zot.electricrain.com> shrek-m at gmx.de writes: > aspell.ppc conflicts with aspell.ppc64, > how can i install aspell.ppc and squirrelmail? I had this problem on FC4, I did a "yum remove aspell" to remove both packages since one had overwritten the other some how, only installed the 32-bit one with "yum install aspell.ppc", then reinstalled the dependant packages I wanted. I did this not because of the conflicting problem you were seeing but because aspell.ppc64 was broken, strace revealed it was looking for dictionaries in some place like lib64, but no content at that location. -bri From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Fri Feb 10 18:19:31 2006 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:19:31 -0500 Subject: yum update problme on FC5T2 In-Reply-To: <8efd4a350602100956t72ac5a8dq@mail.gmail.com> References: <8efd4a350602100956t72ac5a8dq@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1139595571.29264.0.camel@ignacio.lan> On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 12:56 -0500, Hyunjin Moon wrote: > at this point, terminal printed no characters, I continually checked > memory usage on another terminal. then I found that memory usage of > yum was increasing. > about two minutes later, yum used almost memory, then keyboard and > mouse were no response. > > finally, yum had died naturally and keyboard and mouse worked fine. > yum version is 2.5.1-4. > > HELP ME. Why should we, when the answer has already been given multiple times in the past? -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From davej at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 18:25:33 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:25:33 -0500 Subject: later kernals hand at boot - udev? In-Reply-To: <1139592506.3434.4.camel@mentos.hsv.redhat.com> References: <20060209213844.12553.qmail@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1139592506.3434.4.camel@mentos.hsv.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060210182533.GH22611@redhat.com> On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:28:26AM -0600, Guy Streeter wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 13:38 -0800, Mick Mearns wrote: > > Hi; > > kernels later than 1985 will not boot for me. (FC5T2) > > > > [root at localhost ~]# uname -r > > 2.6.15-1.1895_FC5 > > > > I update every day, the latest is: 2.6.15-1.1915_FC5 > > > > Gives during the boot: > > .............................................................. > > > > Starting udev: [ok] > > Loading default keymap (us): [ok] > > Setting hostname localhost.localdomain: [ok] > > ======================= > > - (hangs with cursor here) > > ............................................................. > > More recent kernels have some debugging code that can make the kernel > pause for two minutes after certain kernel events. > I found that my notebook, which used to print "Disabling IRQ 6" at that > point, now pauses for 4 minutes and then continues to boot. That code was hitting a little too often, so it should be slightly shorter for you today. Can you file a bug with output of dmesg -s 128000, and lspci please ? Dave From Liste at famillecollet.com Fri Feb 10 17:51:35 2006 From: Liste at famillecollet.com (Remi Collet) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:51:35 +0100 Subject: Documentation on building ISOs from daily snapshots? In-Reply-To: <20060210173927.GA24872@wolff.to> References: <20060210173927.GA24872@wolff.to> Message-ID: <43ECD2A7.7040506@FamilleCollet.com> Bruno Wolff III a ?crit : > I am interesting in testing out FC5 over the weekend and would like to > be able to make ISOs from the daily RPM snapshots rather than using test 2 > ISOs and trying to update. > Is there documentation someplace on how to do this? > I haven't run accross anything that says how to know which rpm to put on which > ISO. > > > If you read French : http://www.fedora-france.org/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=Cr%E9ation+de+CD+d%27installation+de+Fedora+avec+les+mises+%E0+jour&back=Installation+et+Syst%E8me Command still the same in all languages :) Cordialy Remi. From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri Feb 10 18:33:57 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:33:57 +0100 Subject: missing dovecot.pem Message-ID: <43ECDC95.4080406@gmx.de> hi, clean fresh rawhide inst. dovecot.pem is missing and without it will not start. is this intention or a bug ? ---- FC3 ---- # locate dovecot.pem /usr/share/ssl/private/dovecot.pem /usr/share/ssl/certs/dovecot.pem # rpm -qf `locate dovecot.pem` dovecot-0.99.13-3.FC3 dovecot-0.99.13-3.FC3 ---- FC5Tn ---- # rpm -q dovecot dovecot-1.0-0.beta2.4 default dovecot.conf has "#ssl_disable = no" # service dovecot start Dovecot Imap starten: Error: Can't use SSL certificate /etc/pki/dovecot/certs/dovecot.pem: No such file or directory [FEHLGESCHLAGEN] # updatedb ; locate dovecot.pem # rpm -q openssl openssl-0.9.8a-5 openssl-0.9.8a-5 with "ssl_disable = yes" in the dovecot.conf all is ok. # service dovecot status dovecot (PID 2600) wird ausgef?hrt... -- shrek-m From jkeating at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 19:04:28 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:04:28 -0800 Subject: Massive rebuild in progress In-Reply-To: <1139340272.3579.23.camel@ender> References: <1139340272.3579.23.camel@ender> Message-ID: <1139598268.2892.45.camel@ender> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 11:24 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > After a late night of staging, I have 900~ packages queued up to rebuild > for the gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes. These will be submitted to > our build system throughout the day as low priority jobs. Some will be > finished for tonight's rawhide push, but not all of them. There are > still some packages that should be rebuilt that are not in my list, but > those package maintainer's have expressed desire to bump their packages > themselves. Over the next couple days I'll be checking package > timestamps and keeping an eye on what else needs to build. Please bear > with the churn and the very lengthy rawhide reports. A late breaking bug was found that affects ppc32/64 systems, and so I have to rebuild every package that is built on these arches over the weekend. Please wait on rebuilding Extras until this is done. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is what I get: > > > > http://geek.j2solutions.net/shots/blang.png > > I can add another one: > > http://www.bfki.net/test/Bildschirmfoto.png Are you using a laptop with an external monitor? If so, if you lower your resolution to be the same as the native resolution of the laptop does your problem go away? What if you add Option "MonitorLayout" "NONE,LCD" (or "NONE,CRT" if your monitor is a crt) to the device section or your xorg.conf? --Ray From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri Feb 10 19:33:01 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:33:01 +0100 Subject: aspell.ppc conflicts with aspell.ppc64 In-Reply-To: <17388.55522.14741.688895@zot.electricrain.com> References: <43ECD542.3050408@gmx.de> <17388.55522.14741.688895@zot.electricrain.com> Message-ID: <43ECEA6D.5080005@gmx.de> On 10.02.2006 19:18, Brian D. Carlstrom wrote: >shrek-m at gmx.de writes: > > aspell.ppc conflicts with aspell.ppc64, > > how can i install aspell.ppc and squirrelmail? > >I did a "yum remove aspell" > thanks :-) only 2 packages, both ppc64 # rpm -e aspell aspell-en # uname -a Linux pmg5 2.6.15-1.1915_FC5 #1 SMP Tue Feb 7 15:16:03 EST 2006 ppc64 ppc64 ppc64 GNU/Linux # yum install aspell [...] ============================================================================= Package Arch Version Repository Size ============================================================================= Installing: aspell ppc 12:0.60.3-3.1 development 998 k aspell ppc64 12:0.60.3-3.1 development 1.0 M Installing for dependencies: aspell-en ppc 50:6.0-1.2 development 1.6 M [...] Installed: aspell.ppc 12:0.60.3-3.1 aspell.ppc64 12:0.60.3-3.1 Dependency Installed: aspell-en.ppc 50:6.0-1.2 Complete! squirrelmail and dovecot are ok :-) -- shrek-m From bdc at carlstrom.com Fri Feb 10 19:37:38 2006 From: bdc at carlstrom.com (Brian D. Carlstrom) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:37:38 -0800 Subject: aspell.ppc conflicts with aspell.ppc64 In-Reply-To: <43ECEA6D.5080005@gmx.de> References: <43ECD542.3050408@gmx.de> <17388.55522.14741.688895@zot.electricrain.com> <43ECEA6D.5080005@gmx.de> Message-ID: <17388.60290.350674.467941@zot.electricrain.com> shrek-m at gmx.de writes: > # yum install aspell > [...] > ============================================================================= > Package Arch Version Repository Size > ============================================================================= > Installing: > aspell ppc 12:0.60.3-3.1 development 998 k > aspell ppc64 12:0.60.3-3.1 development 1.0 M > Installing for dependencies: > aspell-en ppc 50:6.0-1.2 development 1.6 M > [...] > Installed: aspell.ppc 12:0.60.3-3.1 aspell.ppc64 12:0.60.3-3.1 > Dependency Installed: aspell-en.ppc 50:6.0-1.2 > Complete! To be clear, in my case having both installed meant that neither worked. You might have manged to install the later dependencies, but apsell might not work, which is why i did a "yum install apsell.ppc" and made sure that the ppc64 was not installed. You might want to confirm by running "aspell -l" RET hello RET wrld RET Control-D to see if aspell is actually working. -bri From bruno at wolff.to Fri Feb 10 20:28:36 2006 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:28:36 -0600 Subject: Documentation on building ISOs from daily snapshots? In-Reply-To: <43ECD2A7.7040506@FamilleCollet.com> References: <20060210173927.GA24872@wolff.to> <43ECD2A7.7040506@FamilleCollet.com> Message-ID: <20060210202836.GA10664@wolff.to> On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 18:51:35 +0100, Remi Collet wrote: > Bruno Wolff III a ?crit : > >I am interesting in testing out FC5 over the weekend and would like to > >be able to make ISOs from the daily RPM snapshots rather than using test 2 > >ISOs and trying to update. > >Is there documentation someplace on how to do this? > >I haven't run accross anything that says how to know which rpm to put on > >which > >ISO. > > > > > > > If you read French : > http://www.fedora-france.org/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=Cr%E9ation+de+CD+d%27installation+de+Fedora+avec+les+mises+%E0+jour&back=Installation+et+Syst%E8me > > Command still the same in all languages :) Being a stereo typical american, I only know English, but I looked through the page a bit and I think I may be able to get by, by looking at the commands. Thanks. From MWeiner at ag.com Fri Feb 10 20:43:05 2006 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:43:05 -0500 Subject: yum update problme on FC5T2 Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DD9F6@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> > You'll have to download the latest sqlite-3 package apply it. Check the archives first :) https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00145. html -- Interesting, the RPM in that link above seems to indicate to install an OLDER version of sqlite. I have sqlite-3.3.3-1 on my FC5T2 box at the moment and installing 3.3.2-1 is a downgrade ... whats up with that??? Michael Weiner From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Fri Feb 10 20:47:40 2006 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:47:40 -0500 Subject: yum update problme on FC5T2 In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DD9F6@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DD9F6@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: <1139604460.29264.7.camel@ignacio.lan> On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 15:43 -0500, MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: > > You'll have to download the latest sqlite-3 package apply it. > > Check the archives first :) > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00145. > html > > -- > Interesting, the RPM in that link above seems to indicate to install an > OLDER version of sqlite. I have sqlite-3.3.3-1 on my FC5T2 box at the > moment and installing 3.3.2-1 is a downgrade ... whats up with that??? What's up with that is that it's the wrong solution. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From pgraner at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 20:50:20 2006 From: pgraner at redhat.com (Pete Graner) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:50:20 -0500 Subject: yum update problme on FC5T2 In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DD9F6@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DD9F6@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: <43ECFC8C.5000609@redhat.com> MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: >> You'll have to download the latest sqlite-3 package apply it. > > Check the archives first :) > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00145. > html > > -- > Interesting, the RPM in that link above seems to indicate to install an > OLDER version of sqlite. I have sqlite-3.3.3-1 on my FC5T2 box at the > moment and installing 3.3.2-1 is a downgrade ... whats up with that??? > > Michael Weiner When that post was written the current version of the package was broke. It has since been updated. The only way to get yum to run is either to downgrade or upgrade to a known good package. Pete -- Pete Graner email: From MWeiner at ag.com Fri Feb 10 20:57:29 2006 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:57:29 -0500 Subject: yum update problme on FC5T2 Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDA0E@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 15:43 -0500, MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: > > You'll have to download the latest sqlite-3 package apply it. > > Check the archives first :) > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00145. > html > > -- > Interesting, the RPM in that link above seems to indicate to install > an OLDER version of sqlite. I have sqlite-3.3.3-1 on my FC5T2 box at > the moment and installing 3.3.2-1 is a downgrade ... whats up with that??? What's up with that is that it's the wrong solution. -- I was being rather synical, since there has been quite a bit of "snappiness" happening on this list lately :) Michael Weiner From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 21:07:14 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:07:14 -0500 Subject: yum update problme on FC5T2 In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDA0E@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDA0E@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602101307q4deefdf2u283d4e9245ae9e3d@mail.gmail.com> On 2/10/06, MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: > > Check the archives first :) > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00145. > > html Not Found The requested URL /archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00145 was not found on this server. -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 21:07:55 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:07:55 -0500 Subject: yum update problme on FC5T2 In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602101307q4deefdf2u283d4e9245ae9e3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDA0E@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> <91f88ee20602101307q4deefdf2u283d4e9245ae9e3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602101307q7a685a13qa0de8243eab1a535@mail.gmail.com> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Sorry! On 2/10/06, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > Not Found > > The requested URL /archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00145 .html is missing =( From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri Feb 10 21:11:52 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:11:52 +0100 Subject: aspell.ppc conflicts with aspell.ppc64 In-Reply-To: <17388.60290.350674.467941@zot.electricrain.com> References: <43ECD542.3050408@gmx.de> <17388.55522.14741.688895@zot.electricrain.com> <43ECEA6D.5080005@gmx.de> <17388.60290.350674.467941@zot.electricrain.com> Message-ID: <43ED0198.6090000@gmx.de> On 10.02.2006 20:37, Brian D. Carlstrom wrote: >To be clear, in my case having both installed meant that neither worked. >You might have manged to install the later dependencies, but apsell >might not work, which is why i did a "yum install apsell.ppc" and made >sure that the ppc64 was not installed. You might want to confirm by >running "aspell -l" RET hello RET wrld RET Control-D to see if aspell is >actually working. > thanks. with aspell.ppc64 it will not work, always reproducible. # aspell -a Fehler: No word lists can be found for the language "de_DE". # aspell -l en -a Fehler: No word lists can be found for the language "en". # rpm -e --nodeps aspell.ppc aspell.ppc64 # yum install aspell.ppc aspell-de # aspell -len -a @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.3) thanks for your hint. * * * * is this in bugzilla? not really ? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=168822 should we file a bug ? jkeating, varekova # rpm -q --changelog aspell | head -4 * Di Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 12:0.60.3-3.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Mo Dez 19 2005 Ivana Varekova 12:0.60.3-3 -- shrek-m From tdiehl at rogueind.com Fri Feb 10 21:14:52 2006 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:14:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fc5T2 boot problem Message-ID: Hi all, I tried to install fc5t2 on a test box today but when the kernel boots I get "Critical Temperature reached (256 c) shutting down". and it does. The machine is not overheated. All of the fans work and in fact if it were really 256c I suspect the magic smoke would leak out. In looking for an answer I see most people report this on laptops and upgrade the bios to fix it. This machine is an old p3 desktop and afaict there is no bios upgrade available. Is there a way to turn off this check?? Regards, Tom Diehl tdiehl at rogueind.com Spamtrap address mtd123 at rogueind.com From MWeiner at ag.com Fri Feb 10 21:15:09 2006 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:15:09 -0500 Subject: yum update problme on FC5T2 Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDA2F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Well rpm -Uvh --oldpackage sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm yields the following dep error: error: Failed dependencies: sqlite = 3.3.3-1 is needed by (installed) sqlite-devel-3.3.3-1.i386 And one cannot rpm -e sqlite-devel as its required by rpm-devel Ideas? Michael Weiner From grinnz at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 22:14:32 2006 From: grinnz at gmail.com (Dan) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:14:32 -0500 Subject: FC5 on fakeraid Message-ID: <43ED1048.5000800@gmail.com> I already posted a bug about this ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178079 ), but just throwing it out there: With FC5 test 2 (for x86_64 in my case), anaconda is able to install onto my NVRAID 0 array (one of many so-called "fakeraid" implementations of onboard RAID, handled by dmraid), and flawlessly too. Except, apparently, for grub, because booting after installation is complete sends me into a grub prompt. If I use that prompt to install grub and reboot, I can boot my Windows installations fine, but FC5 kernel panics because it can't find any labeled partitions (especially /). So it now seems like dmraid is working in grub, but not in the startup of Fedora. I know it is possible for this to work, because I have had FC4 booting flawlessly for months previous to my attempt to install FC5. However, I had to go through several steps to get it to work; I followed a guide (intended for RHEL4 on Sil RAID 0) at http://www.spinics.net/lists/ataraid/msg02310.html and wrote my own at http://www.fedorasolved.com/viewtopic.php?t=154 . These steps involve installing the OS on a non-raid hard drive, creating partitions on the RAID hard drive using this installation's dmraid ability, copying each partition over, installing grub on the raid drive, applying a patch to /sbin/mkinitrd (and using it to make a initrd file), and making grub.conf and fstab point to the correct dmraid partitions. After doing this, FC4 booting flawlessly, and I only had issues when I had to interface with it in rescue mode because I would have to access dmraid in a non-raid installation before i could even see the raid partitions. So again, just throwing it out there to people who know what they're doing in development. -Dan From gsimpson at mountaincable.net Fri Feb 10 22:21:21 2006 From: gsimpson at mountaincable.net (glenn) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:21:21 -0500 Subject: kernel 1928 works Message-ID: <43ED11E1.3060500@mountaincable.net> Just want to say tnxs for the fixes to i386 kernel 1928. I had previous reported that kernels after 1907 would fail to complete boot up on my AMD 2000+ host. But today, the rcvd the 1928 version and it works for all the tests I have done so far. Even the sound device on my ASUS mb is working for the first time. I have been without sound since before the FC5 T2 distro was released. Tnxs for the effort fellows and keep up the good work. It seems that the recompile of everything, in preparation for T3 is correcting many conditions :-) -- Glenn From davej at redhat.com Fri Feb 10 22:24:18 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:24:18 -0500 Subject: kernel 1928 works In-Reply-To: <43ED11E1.3060500@mountaincable.net> References: <43ED11E1.3060500@mountaincable.net> Message-ID: <20060210222418.GI31949@redhat.com> On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 05:21:21PM -0500, glenn wrote: > Just want to say tnxs for the fixes to i386 kernel 1928. I had previous > reported that kernels after 1907 would fail to complete boot up on my > AMD 2000+ host. > > But today, the rcvd the 1928 version and it works for all the tests I > have done so far. Even the sound device on my ASUS mb is working for > the first time. I have been without sound since before the FC5 T2 > distro was released. > > Tnxs for the effort fellows and keep up the good work. It seems that > the recompile of everything, in preparation for T3 is correcting many > conditions :-) It was actually the fact that todays kernel is the first kernel to have all the post-rc2 patches applied, due to a screwup in the spec file. (After the rc2 rebase, I forgot to uncomment the %patch2 -p1 line when -git1 appeared. Whoops). Dave From kfischer at bfki.net Fri Feb 10 22:45:38 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:45:38 +0100 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <43EC5E48.9060303@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <20060208123802.80242.qmail@web52608.mail.yahoo.com> <1139403337.3050.34.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060208144357.GA1325@charlescurley.com> <604aa7910602080713g56ea4621pc97e5241bfb573cd@mail.gmail.com> <20060208185343.GB28299@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602081117m75f5eb58yec3054a5d4786694@mail.gmail.com> <20060208222231.GA2355@mail.harddata.com> <1139441453.2565.17.camel@video.bfki.net> <20060209000459.GA5952@mail.harddata.com> <1139475813.2565.45.camel@video.bfki.net> <43EC5E48.9060303@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <1139611538.2808.6.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Freitag, den 10.02.2006, 17:35 +0800 schrieb John Summerfied: > Karsten Fischer wrote: > > >> > >>Specific examples, please. Or you have to be kidding. > > > > > > Easily. I put in a media called "Tax2005" and its is mounted > > How do you know it's called Tax2005? > At last that's easy: I created it :) And, since I happen to have a printer capable of printing CD's, it has its name clearly printed. But that is possibly not often encountered..... -- Karsten Fischer From amellan at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 23:37:08 2006 From: amellan at gmail.com (Alain Mellan) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:37:08 -0800 Subject: kernel 1928 works In-Reply-To: <20060210222418.GI31949@redhat.com> References: <43ED11E1.3060500@mountaincable.net> <20060210222418.GI31949@redhat.com> Message-ID: <95ac75570602101537p66001bc6w66ea0854523246bd@mail.gmail.com> Yep. My laptop wouldn't resume after hibernation since maybe 1826. Kernel 1928 works great! (still no suspend/resume, but I can live with hibernate/resume) -- alain. From ianburrell at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 23:39:01 2006 From: ianburrell at gmail.com (Ian Burrell) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:39:01 -0800 Subject: yum update problme on FC5T2 In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDA2F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDA2F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: On 2/10/06, MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: > Well rpm -Uvh --oldpackage sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm yields the following > dep error: > > error: Failed dependencies: > sqlite = 3.3.3-1 is needed by (installed) > sqlite-devel-3.3.3-1.i386 > > And one cannot rpm -e sqlite-devel as its required by rpm-devel > > Ideas? > Don't downgrade sqlite. Upgrade python-sqlite. sqlite-3.3.3-1 broke python-sqlite and yum. The most recent version of python-sqlite fixes the problem. rpm -Uvh http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/python-sqlite-1.1.7-1.1.i386.rpm - Ian From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 11 00:40:12 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:40:12 -0500 Subject: What happened to all the gnome screensavers? In-Reply-To: <56534.203.56.246.92.1139588068.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <53252.203.56.246.92.1139585465.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060210155737.GC24862@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> <56534.203.56.246.92.1139588068.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <43ED326C.50807@insight.rr.com> Steven Haigh wrote: >>On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 02:31:05AM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: >> >>>It looks like all the previous xscreensavers are gone! >>> >>>Looks like now only the ones in /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/themes are >>>used - with the ones in /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/* being ignored. >>> >>>Is this part of a migration or an oversight? >> >>rpm -e gnome-screensaver >>yum install xscreensaver-extras xscreensaver-gl-extras > > > Ahhh ok... I just removed gnome-screensaver and everything came back to > normal. Must be new :P > I filed a bug report on this. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=180984 It is easy enough to uninstall gnome-screensaver, but it installing by default will saturate the fedora-list mailing list more than the spam replies in the list history. Jim -- Learn from other people's mistakes, you don't have time to make your own. From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 11 01:13:41 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:13:41 -0500 Subject: yum update problme on FC5T2 In-Reply-To: References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDA2F@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: <43ED3A45.3080102@insight.rr.com> Ian Burrell wrote: > On 2/10/06, MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: > >>Well rpm -Uvh --oldpackage sqlite-3.3.2-1.i386.rpm yields the following >>dep error: >> >>error: Failed dependencies: >> sqlite = 3.3.3-1 is needed by (installed) >>sqlite-devel-3.3.3-1.i386 >> >>And one cannot rpm -e sqlite-devel as its required by rpm-devel >> >>Ideas? >> > > > Don't downgrade sqlite. Upgrade python-sqlite. sqlite-3.3.3-1 broke > python-sqlite and yum. The most recent version of python-sqlite fixes > the problem. > > rpm -Uvh http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/python-sqlite-1.1.7-1.1.i386.rpm > > - Ian > Also pirut uses yum. yum uses python-sqlite, sqlite brought out the bug in python-sqlite which caused yum to seem to be bad or pirut or another front-end to yum if you used another alternative. Downgrading sqlite (not desired, since it only masks the python-sqlite bug) or downloading the above (or later for archival purposes) version of python-sqlite and installing it via rpm will get things straightened out. I think the above is correct. Jim -- Learn from other people's mistakes, you don't have time to make your own. From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 11 02:10:06 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:10:06 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43ED477E.8090603@insight.rr.com> Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > And when I get that CD from my co-worker, or a customer, and put it in > my drive, I have no idea what directory to look for. I now have to > scan '/media' looking for a change... > ...Oh that must be where to find the files (this time). > Every CD I get will be in a different spot and every time I'm going to > have to go a hunting, even thought its always in the same physical and > logical drive. > > Give me the good old days... it was a whole lot more intuitive, > not to mention convienient. > Naming the mountpoint by the label or volume name is not a smart practice. The only effect this has is to make using the cli less easy. I label the discs that I make with rather long titles and would not like to type /media/Customer one system backup from 2/10/2006 with all the escape characters in order to change directories. Typing cd /media/cdrecorder and typing ls to list the files is a better idea. I do like this information displayed on the desktop with the label though. > > > This sounds similar to a problem I had with logical volumes a few weeks > ago.... > > I was migrating from FC3 to FC4, so I installed FC4 onto a new drive, > and then wanted to mount my old FC3 drive, and copy over my personal > files. But with the LVM turned on by default, I had no idea what to > mount. And because it had the same volume name/group as the existing > FC4 drive, I couldn't figure out how to add a second volume group to > the system. Especially since the one I was trying to add had the same > name as the one already running. The documentation didn't help, and > between me and and associate, we never figured out how to accomplish > the job. Fortunately I had a backup of my data, because by the end > of the attempt, my old FC3 disk had been trashed. > > Moral of the story... I no longer use the default of LVM, because > it gets in the way, by trying to be too cutesy with names rather > than raw devices. I noticed a problem someone was having on the Fedora-list with an lvm system with the same labels and LVM information for the disk he inserted into a USB enclosure then tried to access the information. I could not help him with the recovery of his data with the two exactly labeled LVMs. I was able to recover my data from an LVM from a disk inserted into a USB enclosre on a system with regular partitions. I had to activate the LVMs and then manually mount the partions to directories that I had to create for mountpoints. If you still have a disk with the LVM install, you might be able to recover data from it using a traditionally partitoned system. > > On the other hand, _maybe_ there was a way to do it, but dammed it we > could figure it out from the documentation. :-( > > There could be a way, borrowing from the /media/crazy\ wacked\ out\ concept\ for\ volume\ names\ in\ media/ Performing ls on the directory is really impressive. Do I have this many directories or is one of them a name? [root at cornette-lt media]# ls cdrecorder crazy wacked out concept for volume names in media usbdisk Ah! Let's use ls -la! ls -la total 40 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Feb 10 21:00 . drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 Feb 10 18:32 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 6 06:08 cdrecorder drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 10 21:00 crazy wacked out concept for volume names in media drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 6 06:08 usbdisk No let's change to 'crazy wacked out concept for volume names in media' directory. cd crazy\ wacked\ out\ concept\ for\ volume\ names\ in\ media/ [root at cornette-lt crazy wacked out concept for volume names in media]# pwd /media/crazy wacked out concept for volume names in media LVM problems: If LVM disks in USB enclosures are mounted, they could be inherit an appending to the volume group with a usb extension. Either that or random numbers for the volume groups could be used in the future for LVM naming. (8-character) -- Learn from other people's mistakes, you don't have time to make your own. From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 11 02:39:30 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:39:30 -0500 Subject: kernel 1928 works In-Reply-To: <95ac75570602101537p66001bc6w66ea0854523246bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <43ED11E1.3060500@mountaincable.net> <20060210222418.GI31949@redhat.com> <95ac75570602101537p66001bc6w66ea0854523246bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43ED4E62.6010704@insight.rr.com> Alain Mellan wrote: > Yep. My laptop wouldn't resume after hibernation since maybe 1826. > Kernel 1928 works great! (still no suspend/resume, but I can live with > hibernate/resume) > > -- alain. > Mine does not really hibernate. It does however take a cat nap. It does go into Suspend but never exits the mode properly. The computer runs fsck when powered up again. uname -r 2.6.15-1.1928_FC5 Jim -- Learn from other people's mistakes, you don't have time to make your own. From fhew3 at cogeco.ca Sat Feb 11 03:12:48 2006 From: fhew3 at cogeco.ca (Fulko Hew) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:12:48 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: <43ED477E.8090603@insight.rr.com> References: <43ED477E.8090603@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <43ED5630.5000702@cogeco.ca> Jim Cornette replied: > Naming the mountpoint by the label or volume name is not a smart > practice. The only effect this has is to make using the cli less easy. > I label the discs that I make with rather long titles and would not > like to type /media/Customer one system backup from 2/10/2006 with all > the escape characters in order to change directories. Typing cd > /media/cdrecorder and typing ls to list the files is a better idea. > I do like this information displayed on the desktop with the label > though. I don't mind if there is a desktop icon appear with a magic name. I never use the desktop anyway, or to put it differently... don't force me to use the desktop and its icons. "It is OK to add glitz and chrome, just do remove the infrastructure." >> >> >> This sounds similar to a problem I had with logical volumes a few weeks >> ago.... > ... snip ... > I noticed a problem someone was having on the Fedora-list with an lvm > system with the same labels and LVM information for the disk he > inserted into a USB enclosure then tried to access the information. I > could not help him with the recovery of his data with the two exactly > labeled LVMs. > I was able to recover my data from an LVM from a disk inserted into a > USB enclosre on a system with regular partitions. I had to activate > the LVMs and then manually mount the partions to directories that I > had to create for mountpoints. If you still have a disk with the LVM > install, you might be able to recover data from it using a > traditionally partitoned system. Yup. That was me. And thats what I ended up doing. Since my newly created FC4 was trashed, and I had to rebuild it anyway, I rebuilt it without LVM. (I can't see where LVM would help me on a single drive laptop anyway? ) ... So now I didn't have conflicting names, and I could mount my plain FC4 as a 'regular' device onto my LVM'ed FC3, and copy all my FC3 stuff to the 'plain' FC4. >> On the other hand, _maybe_ there was a way to do it, but dammed it we >> could figure it out from the documentation. :-( > ... snip ... > LVM problems: > > If LVM disks in USB enclosures are mounted, they could be inherit an > appending to the volume group with a usb extension. Either that or > random numbers for the volume groups could be used in the future for > LVM naming. (8-character) But the problem was that regardless of USB or not, or appended magic names or not, it seemed that you had to mount the logical volume into a logical group. You can't just mount the device, (USB or otherwise) I think the LVM examples showed how to add a volume to an existing group (not what I wanted) or it showed how to initialize a new volume (name) within a new group (not what I wanted either), but I couldn't find out how to add an existing volume to a new group (let alone with a duplicated volume name) In the end, I finished my migration, but it wasn't as easy and clean as I had hoped. From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 03:21:37 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:21:37 -0600 Subject: SELinux and NSS [was: Problem with NSS update - Firefox, Evolution] In-Reply-To: <43E77F6D.3060104@redhat.com> References: <8767947e0601281249w13ed78d9n509371d7fd8b7b59@mail.gmail.com> <43E020A8.5020706@redhat.com> <8767947e0602032205t58ef1e2fs21b2e19dd989c74d@mail.gmail.com> <43E77F6D.3060104@redhat.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602101921m14e6d08dtd7f10696241741be@mail.gmail.com> On 2/6/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Jonathan Berry wrote: > > On 1/31/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > >> setsebool -P allow_execmem=1 > > > > This allows Evolution to run, but Firefox still complains about not > > being able to do the security stuff. Still need to setenforce 0 to > > access https. Besides, this seems like a rather far reaching "fix." > > Not that I'm exactly sure what exactly it does.... > > > > Jonathan > > Rereading your posts. Are you sure this is an SELinux problem? If you > setenforce 0, does firefox/evolution work? Sorry for the lag. Well, it seems related to SELinux at least as, yes, setenforce 0 allows Firefox and Evolution work. Firefox will run with setenforce 1, but cannot do anything related to SSL. Evolution refuses to start because of it. I'm still seeing this problem. Jonathan From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 03:39:28 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:39:28 -0600 Subject: Widescreen 1440x900 resolution In-Reply-To: <20060206140624.GC1782@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> References: <8767947e0602032158q53512ccarc7682ac3b2c5db84@mail.gmail.com> <20060206140624.GC1782@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> Message-ID: <8767947e0602101939sea0e22cneaa4055ff053bdb5@mail.gmail.com> On 2/6/06, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 11:58:48PM -0600, Jonathan Berry wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > > > Okay, system-config-display has a generic LCD 1440x900 monitor in it, > > but is does not have a 1440x900 resolution mode. Or rather, I guess > > it is xorg that does not have the mode. What does it take to get this > > added as a "natively" supported mode? > > Probably file a bug against some part of xorg, maybe xserver? > > > It works great if I add the > > following Modeline: > > Modeline "1440x900" 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 -HSync +Vsync > > This yeilds 1440x900 at 60 Hz (found randomly on the Internet and works great). > > man gtf next time ;) Thanks. I knew things like this existed. I've seen a similar thing on a website, but it had a ton of different obscure parameters. This is really nice, just takes horizontal, vertical, and refresh rate. I was thinking. With something like this, why couldn't system-config-display use this to automatically generate a modeline for modes not natively supported by X? Jonathan From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 03:46:47 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:46:47 -0600 Subject: Changing Gnome desktop background "Style" In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602032153s6e43baa7hc917b199b05ce6e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0602032153s6e43baa7hc917b199b05ce6e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602101946j4c239372v9f975c4ee4766880@mail.gmail.com> On 2/3/06, Jonathan Berry wrote: > Hey everyone, > > It seems that attempting to change the Gnome desktop background style > (Fill Screen, Centered, Scaled, Zoom, or Tiled) does not change > anything unless you also change the picture. The menu item changes > and remembers its settings, but it does not change the background. If > you select another picture, select OK, then bring it back up and make > change the settings for the original picture, it will work. Anyone > else seeing this? I no longer see this problem. Changing the style now changes the background. Also, changes happen immediately as with FC4, rather than requiring the Desktop Background Properties box to be closed. > PS: Any chance of getting a widescreen aspect ratio (16:9 and/or > 16:10) of the new spiffy default Fedora background? No comments? :-) Jonathan From misha at mishakononov.com Sat Feb 11 03:51:58 2006 From: misha at mishakononov.com (Misha Kononov) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:51:58 -0500 Subject: NetworkManager Message-ID: <43ED5F5E.9030203@mishakononov.com> Hi all, I just updated to kernel 1928 (along with about a gig of updates), and I'm having some trouble with NetworkManager. In short, it fails when trying to connect to a wireless network. Below are the applicable entries in messages: When trying to bring up the NetworkManager daemon initially: Feb 10 22:22:55 panoz NetworkManager: real_act_stage2_config (): Activation (eth1/wireless): couldn't connect to the supplicant. Feb 10 22:24:31 panoz NetworkManager: real_act_stage2_config (): Activation (eth1/wireless): couldn't connect to the supplicant. Feb 10 22:25:18 panoz NetworkManager: real_act_stage2_config (): Activation (eth1/wireless): couldn't connect to the supplicant. Feb 10 22:25:24 panoz NetworkManager: nm_dbus_init (): nm_dbus_init() could not acquire the NetworkManager service as it is already taken (ret=3). Is the daemon already running? Feb 10 22:25:24 panoz NetworkManager: [1139628324.925906] main (): nm_dbus_init() failed, exiting. Either dbus is not running, or the NetworkManager dbus security policy was not loaded. Feb 10 22:25:24 panoz NetworkManager: traceback: Feb 10 22:25:24 panoz NetworkManager: NetworkManager [0x8061fc5] Feb 10 22:25:24 panoz NetworkManager: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc) [0xbf6784] Feb 10 22:25:24 panoz NetworkManager: NetworkManager [0x804d791] And when trying to connect to a wireless network, all I get is Feb 10 22:30:25 panoz NetworkManager: real_act_stage2_config (): Activation (eth1/wireless): couldn't connect to the supplicant. dbus is running and seems to be functioning properly. And if I bypass NetworkManager, I can still get an IP via DHCP and connect to the network. I'd appreciate any ideas. Thanks, --Misha From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 19:28:47 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:28:47 -0500 Subject: kivio/svg/gs problem? Message-ID: koffice-kivio-1.4.90-2.fc5 fails exporting svg. The resulting svg file is empty (except a few headers). On the console I see this: parsing started size is 4 parsing finished command to execute is (gs -q -P- -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -dPARANOIDSAFER -dNODISPLAY ps2ai.ps '/tmp/kde-nbecker/kivioSVfoVb.tmp' | sed -e "s/%%BoundingBox: 0 0 612 792/%%BoundingBox: 0 -214 816 842/g" > '/tmp/kde-nbecker/kivioZ2sW2a.tmp') unknown operator: Adobe_packedarray pushing Adobe_packedarray to stack unknown operator: Adobe_cmykcolor pushing Adobe_cmykcolor to stack unknown operator: Adobe_cshow pushing Adobe_cshow to stack unknown operator: Adobe_customcolor pushing Adobe_customcolor to stack unknown operator: Adobe_typography_AI3 pushing Adobe_typography_AI3 to stack unknown operator: Adobe_IllustratorA_AI3 pushing Adobe_IllustratorA_AI3 to stack before save document after save document Looks like a mismatch between kivio and gs? From selinux at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 04:33:32 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:33:32 -0800 Subject: NetworkManager In-Reply-To: <43ED5F5E.9030203@mishakononov.com> References: <43ED5F5E.9030203@mishakononov.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602102033s5fcb7db8s2de657e106d7e07@mail.gmail.com> I see a problem with the latest SELinux policy. If you are running SELinux/enforcing, try running in permissive mode: 'setenforce 0'. That worked for me. tom From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 22:05:41 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:05:41 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name References: <20060210165832.GB21865@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: A user can no longer eject a disk, because fstab isn't being updated correctly. Now, if I try eject, I am told the mount point isn't in fstab (and I'm not root). If we are going to mount cds this way, fstab sync has to be fixed. From jkeating at redhat.com Sat Feb 11 08:24:38 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:24:38 -0800 Subject: No rawhide release just yet Message-ID: <1139646279.31644.17.camel@ender> There is an error in the run, and since I'm rebuilding a lot of packages I want to wait until the packages are done before manually running the rawhide release. Sorry for the delay. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(physical) `eject hdd` `eject hdd -t` `eject hdd -T` == `eject cdrom1` `eject cdrom1 -t` `eject cdrom1 -T` == `eject cdrecorder` `eject cdrecorder -t` `eject cdrecorder -T` vs. (volumename) `eject Customer\ one\ system\ backup\ from\ 2\/10\/2006` `eject Customer\ one\ system\ backup\ from\ 2\/10\/2006 -t` `eject Customer\ one\ system\ backup\ from\ 2\/10\/2006 -T` will the tray_close_command work with the previous mounted volumelabel ? it should not. -- shrek-m From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Feb 11 10:08:18 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:08:18 +0000 Subject: Not sure how to do this - any help would be appreciated (wireless lan) Message-ID: <1139652498.3475.11.camel@T7.Linux> Hi, I've found how to get the inbuilt WLAN to work on my Toshiba A10 by following the advice at http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/2276/sort/2/cat/all/page/1 The problem is two fold here. The first is that I could do with having the three modules autoloaded on boot each time I fire up the machine. I know I can put them into mod* in /etc, but it looks like the device needs 3 modules, so setting something like alias orinoco_cs sit0 can't happen (unless all 3 modules can be put on the alias or something like that). Is it just a case of adding modprobe hermes, orinoco and orinoco_cs and then aliasing orinoco_cs to sit0? Secondly, I'm a bit bemused on how to use iwconfig. Can I just select auto (the man page looks like I can) which will just pick everything that is open up? Before someone says this is the test list - yes, I know it is. The machine the wlan is on is a laptop running rawhide so the answer may not be the same for the testing kernel and setup as it is for FC < 5 TTFN Paul -- "wir kamen, wir sahen, wir traten ihren Esel" - Dr Venkman, Ghostbusters -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Sat Feb 11 12:12:42 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 20:12:42 +0800 Subject: Not sure how to do this - any help would be appreciated (wireless lan) In-Reply-To: <1139652498.3475.11.camel@T7.Linux> References: <1139652498.3475.11.camel@T7.Linux> Message-ID: <43EDD4BA.6030607@herakles.homelinux.org> Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I've found how to get the inbuilt WLAN to work on my Toshiba A10 by > following the advice at > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/2276/sort/2/cat/all/page/1 > > The problem is two fold here. The first is that I could do with having > the three modules autoloaded on boot each time I fire up the machine. I > know I can put them into mod* in /etc, but it looks like the device > needs 3 modules, so setting something like alias orinoco_cs sit0 can't > happen (unless all 3 modules can be put on the alias or something like > that). > > Is it just a case of adding modprobe hermes, orinoco and orinoco_cs and > then aliasing orinoco_cs to sit0? That's wrong:-) sit0 is an ip6inip4 tunnel. I have a Toshiba Sattelite in which I use and Orinoco and/or Wavelan card. It shows as eth1 (eth0 is the wired port) and I would expect yours to be the same. I'm running FC3 in which the network configuration's "devices" tab has "edit" and edit has a "wireless" tab. That should be all you need. > > Secondly, I'm a bit bemused on how to use iwconfig. Can I just select > auto (the man page looks like I can) which will just pick everything > that is open up? As root, on my LAN this would get you going. ifconfig eth1 up iwconfig eth1 essid key On|Off|s:key|asciikey \ rate auto [commit] dhclient eth1 The first should load the config. I've not needed to load modules, muck around with aliases on 2.6 kernels. This incantation of iwconfig sets the essid (base station name), determines whether to use wep, sets the link speed and commits the changes. In my limited experience "commit" is not needed. You might also need to add "mode managed." If so, before the essid: the order matters, but is logical. > > Before someone says this is the test list - yes, I know it is. The > machine the wlan is on is a laptop running rawhide so the answer may not > be the same for the testing kernel and setup as it is for FC < 5 > > TTFN YMMV -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From netwiz at crc.id.au Sat Feb 11 12:24:31 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:24:31 +1100 Subject: Not sure how to do this - any help would be appreciated (wireless lan) In-Reply-To: <1139652498.3475.11.camel@T7.Linux> References: <1139652498.3475.11.camel@T7.Linux> Message-ID: <1139660672.7349.1.camel@laptop.crc.id.au> On Sat, 2006-02-11 at 10:08 +0000, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I've found how to get the inbuilt WLAN to work on my Toshiba A10 by > following the advice at > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/2276/sort/2/cat/all/page/1 > > The problem is two fold here. The first is that I could do with having > the three modules autoloaded on boot each time I fire up the machine. I > know I can put them into mod* in /etc, but it looks like the device > needs 3 modules, so setting something like alias orinoco_cs sit0 can't > happen (unless all 3 modules can be put on the alias or something like > that). > > Is it just a case of adding modprobe hermes, orinoco and orinoco_cs and > then aliasing orinoco_cs to sit0? > > Secondly, I'm a bit bemused on how to use iwconfig. Can I just select > auto (the man page looks like I can) which will just pick everything > that is open up? > > Before someone says this is the test list - yes, I know it is. The > machine the wlan is on is a laptop running rawhide so the answer may not > be the same for the testing kernel and setup as it is for FC < 5 NetworkManager is your friend. Load your wifi drivers (but don't configure the card) and let NetworkManager do the rest... Enable it during the boot process and you'll see what I mean when you're in gnome/kde. From roger at gwch.net Sat Feb 11 12:26:52 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:26:52 +0100 Subject: Update-Problem from extras: Scribus Message-ID: <1139660813.4178.1.camel@niobe> Hey, Have problems updating the last time, tix was throttling my updates. The problem was tkinter using tix. And research showed, that somehow scribus needs tkinter. How about that? Roger From dfordham at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 14:52:24 2006 From: dfordham at gmail.com (Doug Fordham) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:52:24 -0500 Subject: Eclipse - failed dependencies - after 10 Feb Update Message-ID: <43EDFA28.3030304@gmail.com> 2.6.15-1.1928_FC5 sqlite-3.3.3-1.1 **************** Morning, (in NC that is...) In order to execute yesterday's update, the following packages had to be excluded: libswt3-gtk2.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc eclipse-bugzilla.i386 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2 eclipse-platform.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc eclipse-rcp.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc eclipse-ecj.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc eclipse-jdt.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc ...update proceeded successfully. Upon reboot, HAL & AVAHI failed to start (probably separate issue)... ...running a "yum update" produces the following: Resolving Dependencies --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package eclipse-bugzilla.i386 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2 set to be updated ---> Package eclipse-jdt.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated ---> Package eclipse-rcp.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated ---> Package eclipse-ecj.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated ---> Package eclipse-platform.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 for package: eclipse-bugzilla --> Processing Dependency: java-javadoc for package: eclipse-platform --> Processing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc for package: eclipse-platform --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 is needed by package eclipse-bugzilla Error: Missing Dependency: java-javadoc is needed by package eclipse-platform Error: Missing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc is needed by package eclipse-platform ...no amount of fiddling with exclude statements in yum yields result. Anyone else seeing this behavior? Doug From MWeiner at ag.com Sat Feb 11 14:54:43 2006 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:54:43 -0500 Subject: Eclipse - failed dependencies - after 10 Feb Update Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDB30@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Doug Fordham ...running a "yum update" produces the following: Resolving Dependencies --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package eclipse-bugzilla.i386 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2 set to be updated ---> Package eclipse-jdt.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated Package ---> eclipse-rcp.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated Package ---> eclipse-ecj.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated Package ---> eclipse-platform.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 for package: eclipse-bugzilla --> Processing Dependency: java-javadoc for package: eclipse-platform --> Processing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc for package: eclipse-platform --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 is needed by package eclipse-bugzilla Error: Missing Dependency: java-javadoc is needed by package eclipse-platform Error: Missing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc is needed by package eclipse-platform ...no amount of fiddling with exclude statements in yum yields result. Anyone else seeing this behavior? -- Yes I was seeing this myself yesterday actually and you're right, I couldn't figure out a proper exclude that would allow the yum update to occur and not break everything. Any solutions? Michael Weiner From partha at partha.com Sat Feb 11 14:58:18 2006 From: partha at partha.com (Partha Bagchi) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:58:18 -0500 Subject: FC5T2 - Synaptic Touchpad hell Message-ID: <43EDFB8A.7050103@partha.com> Now that the kernel is fixed (Thanks Dave!!), here is another hell :) for the x86_64 user - The synaptic touch pad does not work all the time. It is sticky and sometimes will do the strangest thing. Here are the messages: tail -n 30 /var/log/messages: Feb 11 09:48:16 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request Feb 11 09:50:17 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 4 Feb 11 09:50:17 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1 Feb 11 09:50:17 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 - driver resynched. Feb 11 09:50:33 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: Failed to reset mouse on isa0060/serio1 Feb 11 09:50:33 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1 Feb 11 09:50:33 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 4 Feb 11 09:50:33 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1 Feb 11 09:50:33 xxxxxx last message repeated 2 times Feb 11 09:50:33 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request Feb 11 09:50:33 xxxxxx kernel: input: PS/2 Generic Mouse as /class/input/input3 Feb 11 09:50:33 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: Failed to enable mouse on isa0060/serio1 Feb 11 09:50:35 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1 Feb 11 09:50:35 xxxxxx last message repeated 4 times Feb 11 09:50:35 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 1 bytes away. Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1 Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx last message repeated 2 times Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 - driver resynched. Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 4 Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1 Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 - driver resynched. Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 4 Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1 Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 - driver resynched. Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1 Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx last message repeated 4 times Feb 11 09:52:18 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request Feb 11 09:52:19 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: failed to re-enable mouse on isa0060/serio1 Feb 11 09:52:19 xxxxxx kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request etc., etc., etc., ......... From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 14:51:54 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:51:54 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name In-Reply-To: References: <20060210165832.GB21865@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602110651h69011487nb3f027242c767288@mail.gmail.com> On 2/10/06, Neal Becker wrote: > A user can no longer eject a disk, because fstab isn't being updated > correctly. Now, if I try eject, I am told the mount point isn't in fstab > (and I'm not root). If we are going to mount cds this way, fstab sync has > to be fixed. there is no fstab-sync anymore try gnome-umount -jef From misha at mishakononov.com Sat Feb 11 15:09:14 2006 From: misha at mishakononov.com (Misha Kononov) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:09:14 -0500 Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 24, Issue 58 In-Reply-To: <20060211121315.6B2C1730B5@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060211121315.6B2C1730B5@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43EDFE1A.2040006@mishakononov.com> > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:33:32 -0800 > From: Tom London > Subject: Re: NetworkManager > > I see a problem with the latest SELinux policy. > > If you are running SELinux/enforcing, try running in permissive mode: > 'setenforce 0'. > > That worked for me. > > tom That was the fix. Thanks for the quick response. --Misha From dfordham at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 15:20:44 2006 From: dfordham at gmail.com (Doug Fordham) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:20:44 -0500 Subject: Eclipse - failed dependencies - after 10 Feb Update In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDB30@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDB30@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: <43EE00CC.8060306@gmail.com> No solutions at the moment...ran a minor update this morning: Updated: gnupg2.i386 0:1.9.20-1.fc5.1 gpgme.i386 0:1.1.0-3.fc5.1 libksba.i386 0:0.9.13-2.fc5.1 pinentry.i386 0:0.7.2-1.fc5.1 yumex.noarch 0:0.99.5-1.0.fc5 Complete! ....but still needed to exclude the Eclipse entries: yum --exclude=eclipse-platform --exclude=eclipse-platform-devel.i386 --exclude=eclipse-rcp --exclude=eclipse-jdt --exclude=eclipse-ecj --exclude=eclipse-bugzilla --exclude=1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc --exclude=libswt3-gtk2 update MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Doug Fordham > ...running a "yum update" produces the following: > Resolving Dependencies > --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. > ---> Package eclipse-bugzilla.i386 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2 set to be updated > ---> Package eclipse-jdt.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated Package > > ---> eclipse-rcp.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated Package > ---> eclipse-ecj.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated Package > ---> eclipse-platform.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated > --> Running transaction check > --> Processing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 for package: > eclipse-bugzilla > --> Processing Dependency: java-javadoc for package: eclipse-platform > --> Processing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc for package: > eclipse-platform > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 is needed by package > eclipse-bugzilla > Error: Missing Dependency: java-javadoc is needed by package > eclipse-platform > Error: Missing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc is needed by > package eclipse-platform > > ...no amount of fiddling with exclude statements in yum yields result. > Anyone else seeing this behavior? > -- > Yes I was seeing this myself yesterday actually and you're right, I > couldn't figure out a proper exclude that would allow the yum update to > occur and not break everything. Any solutions? > > Michael Weiner > > From dgboles at comcast.net Sat Feb 11 16:11:16 2006 From: dgboles at comcast.net (David Boles) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:11:16 -0800 Subject: Eclipse - failed dependencies - after 10 Feb Update In-Reply-To: <43EDFA28.3030304@gmail.com> References: <43EDFA28.3030304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43EE0CA4.8050005@comcast.net> Doug Fordham wrote: > 2.6.15-1.1928_FC5 > sqlite-3.3.3-1.1 > **************** > Morning, (in NC that is...) > > In order to execute yesterday's update, the following packages had to be > excluded: > libswt3-gtk2.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc > eclipse-bugzilla.i386 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2 > eclipse-platform.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc > eclipse-rcp.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc > eclipse-ecj.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc > eclipse-jdt.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc > ...update proceeded successfully. > > Upon reboot, HAL & AVAHI failed to start (probably separate issue)... > > ...running a "yum update" produces the following: > Resolving Dependencies > --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. > ---> Package eclipse-bugzilla.i386 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2 set to be updated > ---> Package eclipse-jdt.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated > ---> Package eclipse-rcp.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated > ---> Package eclipse-ecj.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated > ---> Package eclipse-platform.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated > --> Running transaction check > --> Processing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 for package: > eclipse-bugzilla > --> Processing Dependency: java-javadoc for package: eclipse-platform > --> Processing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc for package: > eclipse-platform > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Missing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 is needed by package > eclipse-bugzilla > Error: Missing Dependency: java-javadoc is needed by package > eclipse-platform > Error: Missing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc is needed by > package eclipse-platform > > ...no amount of fiddling with exclude statements in yum yields result. > Anyone else seeing this behavior? > > Doug > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/yum?highlight=%28yum%29 At the bottom of this page is what you are looking for to solve this dependency problem. -- David From dr.diesel at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 16:18:34 2006 From: dr.diesel at gmail.com (Dr. Diesel) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:18:34 -0500 Subject: Failed to start X server with latest updates Message-ID: <2a28d2ab0602110818v6d8bd67p22b81a769bfec3d2@mail.gmail.com> Get the failed to start X server (your graphical interface). It won't show the server ouptut and hard locks when I try system-config-display. I am using an ATI card, have also tried to previous version of xorg-x11-drv-ati with no success. Anyone else? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michal at harddata.com Sat Feb 11 16:40:08 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:40:08 -0700 Subject: Not sure how to do this - any help would be appreciated (wireless lan) In-Reply-To: <1139652498.3475.11.camel@T7.Linux> References: <1139652498.3475.11.camel@T7.Linux> Message-ID: <20060211164008.GA13927@mail.harddata.com> On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 10:08:18AM +0000, Paul wrote: > > The problem is two fold here. The first is that I could do with having > the three modules autoloaded on boot each time I fire up the machine. That one is no problem at all. Look at 'man modprobe.conf' and read about 'install' command. Quite likely you already have an example of using that command in your /etc/modprobe.conf with sound modules. Michal From dfordham at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 17:19:50 2006 From: dfordham at gmail.com (Doug Fordham) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:19:50 -0500 Subject: Eclipse - failed dependencies - after 10 Feb Update In-Reply-To: <43EE0CA4.8050005@comcast.net> References: <43EDFA28.3030304@gmail.com> <43EE0CA4.8050005@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43EE1CB6.8070902@gmail.com> Great...thanks; sorry for the wasted bandwidth, should have done my homework first. That said, just to document for others who may run into this... Utilizing the script at the provided link...the first run through effectively updated 1:3.1.2-1jpp_4fc to 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc which allowed the following to be updated: eclipse-ecj java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-javadoc eclipse-jdt eclipse-platform eclipse-rcp libswt3-gtk2 ....still seems to be an issue with eclipse-bugzilla, however, as executing a follow-on update produces the following: Resolving Dependencies --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package eclipse-bugzilla.i386 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2 set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 for package: eclipse-bugzilla --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 is needed by package eclipse-bugzilla David Boles wrote: > Doug Fordham wrote: > >> 2.6.15-1.1928_FC5 >> sqlite-3.3.3-1.1 >> **************** >> Morning, (in NC that is...) >> >> In order to execute yesterday's update, the following packages had to be >> excluded: >> libswt3-gtk2.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc >> eclipse-bugzilla.i386 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2 >> eclipse-platform.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc >> eclipse-rcp.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc >> eclipse-ecj.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc >> eclipse-jdt.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc >> ...update proceeded successfully. >> >> Upon reboot, HAL & AVAHI failed to start (probably separate issue)... >> >> ...running a "yum update" produces the following: >> Resolving Dependencies >> --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. >> ---> Package eclipse-bugzilla.i386 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2 set to be updated >> ---> Package eclipse-jdt.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated >> ---> Package eclipse-rcp.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated >> ---> Package eclipse-ecj.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated >> ---> Package eclipse-platform.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated >> --> Running transaction check >> --> Processing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 for package: >> eclipse-bugzilla >> --> Processing Dependency: java-javadoc for package: eclipse-platform >> --> Processing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc for package: >> eclipse-platform >> --> Finished Dependency Resolution >> Error: Missing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 is needed by package >> eclipse-bugzilla >> Error: Missing Dependency: java-javadoc is needed by package >> eclipse-platform >> Error: Missing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc is needed by >> package eclipse-platform >> >> ...no amount of fiddling with exclude statements in yum yields result. >> Anyone else seeing this behavior? >> >> Doug >> >> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/yum?highlight=%28yum%29 > > At the bottom of this page is what you are looking for to solve this > dependency problem. > > From miles.lane at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 17:23:17 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:23:17 -0500 Subject: What happened to all the gnome screensavers? In-Reply-To: <20060210155737.GC24862@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> References: <53252.203.56.246.92.1139585465.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060210155737.GC24862@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> Message-ID: On 2/10/06, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 02:31:05AM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > > It looks like all the previous xscreensavers are gone! > > > > Looks like now only the ones in /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/themes are > > used - with the ones in /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/* being ignored. > > > > Is this part of a migration or an oversight? > > rpm -e gnome-screensaver > yum install xscreensaver-extras xscreensaver-gl-extras I tried this and now cannot figure out how to configure/enable the screensaver. There is no entry in the System->Preferences list. From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 11 19:06:55 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:06:55 -0500 Subject: What happened to all the gnome screensavers? In-Reply-To: References: <53252.203.56.246.92.1139585465.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060210155737.GC24862@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> Message-ID: <43EE35CF.6060908@insight.rr.com> Miles Lane wrote: > On 2/10/06, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 02:31:05AM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: >>> It looks like all the previous xscreensavers are gone! >>> >>> Looks like now only the ones in /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/themes are >>> used - with the ones in /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/* being ignored. >>> >>> Is this part of a migration or an oversight? >> rpm -e gnome-screensaver >> yum install xscreensaver-extras xscreensaver-gl-extras > > I tried this and now cannot figure out how to configure/enable > the screensaver. There is no entry in the System->Preferences list. > run from a user terminal the command xscreensaver-demo or /usr/bin/xscreensaver-demo I have the screensaver on the menu under System > Preferences . screensaver. -- Learn from other people's mistakes, you don't have time to make your own. From don_springall at hotmail.com Sat Feb 11 18:20:50 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:20:50 -0700 Subject: Eclipse - failed dependencies - after 10 Feb Update In-Reply-To: <43EE00CC.8060306@gmail.com> Message-ID: >From: Doug Fordham >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: Eclipse - failed dependencies - after 10 Feb Update >Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:20:44 -0500 > >No solutions at the moment...ran a minor update this morning: >Updated: gnupg2.i386 0:1.9.20-1.fc5.1 gpgme.i386 0:1.1.0-3.fc5.1 >libksba.i386 0:0.9.13-2.fc5.1 pinentry.i386 0:0.7.2-1.fc5.1 yumex.noarch >0:0.99.5-1.0.fc5 >Complete! > >....but still needed to exclude the Eclipse entries: >yum --exclude=eclipse-platform --exclude=eclipse-platform-devel.i386 >--exclude=eclipse-rcp --exclude=eclipse-jdt --exclude=eclipse-ecj >--exclude=eclipse-bugzilla --exclude=1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc >--exclude=libswt3-gtk2 update > > >MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: >>From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com >>[mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Doug Fordham >>...running a "yum update" produces the following: >>Resolving Dependencies >>--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. >>---> Package eclipse-bugzilla.i386 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2 set to be updated ---> >>Package eclipse-jdt.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated Package >> >>---> eclipse-rcp.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated Package ---> >>eclipse-ecj.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated Package ---> >>eclipse-platform.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated >>--> Running transaction check >>--> Processing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 for package: >>eclipse-bugzilla >>--> Processing Dependency: java-javadoc for package: eclipse-platform --> >>Processing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc for package: >>eclipse-platform >>--> Finished Dependency Resolution >>Error: Missing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 is needed by package >>eclipse-bugzilla >>Error: Missing Dependency: java-javadoc is needed by package >>eclipse-platform >>Error: Missing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc is needed by >>package eclipse-platform >> >>...no amount of fiddling with exclude statements in yum yields result. >>Anyone else seeing this behavior? >>-- >>Yes I was seeing this myself yesterday actually and you're right, I >>couldn't figure out a proper exclude that would allow the yum update to >>occur and not break everything. Any solutions? >> >>Michael Weiner I ended up using the following yesterday to get things to go: yum update --exclude={tix,tkinter,eclipse-*,libswt3-gtk2,python,python-devel} I probally excluded too much of the eclipse stuff but at least it ran okay. From off_by_1 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 11 19:33:33 2006 From: off_by_1 at yahoo.com (Mick Mearns) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:33:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: later kernals hang at boot - udev? In-Reply-To: <20060210182533.GH22611@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060211193333.18305.qmail@web30709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:28:26AM -0600, Guy Streeter wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 13:38 -0800, Mick Mearns wrote: > > > Hi; > > > kernels later than 1985 will not boot for me. (FC5T2) > > > > > > [root at localhost ~]# uname -r > > > 2.6.15-1.1895_FC5 > > > > > > I update every day, the latest is: 2.6.15-1.1915_FC5 > > > > > > Gives during the boot: > > > .............................................................. > > > > > > Starting udev: [ok] > > > Loading default keymap (us): [ok] > > > Setting hostname localhost.localdomain: [ok] > > > ======================= > > > - (hangs with cursor here) > > > ............................................................. > > update: the latest HUGE upgrade fixed it. [root at localhost ~]# uname -r 2.6.15-1.1928_FC5 [root at localhost ~]# rpm -qa udev udev-084-1 thanks guys! Mick M. Death before Decaf!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From fedora-list at daniellink.org Sat Feb 11 19:46:57 2006 From: fedora-list at daniellink.org (fedora-list at daniellink.org) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:46:57 -0600 Subject: FC5T2 cannot login apparently due to udev problem Message-ID: <002601c62f43$eb797e00$6601a8c0@meldangreen> I cannot login to my FC5T2 system after updating packages. All I did was: 1. Install FC5T2 (i366, from DVD) 2. Boot, login via X and start updating packages using pup (I guess that?s what it?s called, the system updater from the menu) 3. Left that process alone because there was a lot of packages to download 4. Came back to the machine to notice that the screensaver was active (with the ?f? bubbles) and there was no way to interrupt it or log on to a virtual terminal 5. Reboot with lots of messages to the effect that udev doesn?t know how to make tty and lots of other devices Now I cannot login via X, virtual terminal or remotely via ssh. (The system does get to the login prompt.) Is there a way to fix this in rescue mode using the DVD? Thanks! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 2/10/2006 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miles.lane at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 20:31:17 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:31:17 -0500 Subject: What happened to all the gnome screensavers? In-Reply-To: <43EE35CF.6060908@insight.rr.com> References: <53252.203.56.246.92.1139585465.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060210155737.GC24862@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> <43EE35CF.6060908@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: On 2/11/06, Jim Cornette wrote: > run from a user terminal the command xscreensaver-demo > or /usr/bin/xscreensaver-demo I discovered that I needed to install xscreensaver-base in order to get xscreensaver to show up in the Preferences menu. Also, I have added "xscreensaver -nosplash" to my gnome session. Miles From mandreiana.lists at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 23:13:39 2006 From: mandreiana.lists at gmail.com (Marius Andreiana) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 01:13:39 +0200 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139598950.4140.2.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139531611.3490.0.camel@ender> <1139562071.4102.2.camel@video.bfki.net> <1139598950.4140.2.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <4bcf41a00602111513p6f34a690l1df8128246e42380@mail.gmail.com> Hi, After updating Xorg to rawhide I've installed bling today. Everything works until spififity --replace which causes X to crash on my Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller No errors are generated to X log, I've attached it. How to debug this? Thanks, -- Marius Andreiana -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Also attached /etc/X11/xorg.conf; I've added Composite but I don't see it in X log -- Marius Andreiana -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xorg.conf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2770 bytes Desc: not available URL: From monty19 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 12 02:29:47 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:29:47 +0900 Subject: cannot restart xen domain Message-ID: I installed FC5T2 in a xen Domain. The install completed properly and shutdown: unmounting filesystems... /mnt/runtime done disabling /dev/loop0 /proc done /dev/pts done /sys done /tmp/ramfs done /selinux done /mnt/sysimage/proc done /mnt/sysimage/sys done /mnt/sysimage/selinux done /mnt/sysimage/dev done /mnt/sysimage done rebooting system Restarting system. If your install has exited, you can restart your guest by running 'xm create -c fc5t2xen'. Otherwise, you can reconnect to the console by running 'xm console fc5t2xen' When I try to run the command above I get the following: # xm create -c fc5t2xen Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". Error: [Errno 17] File exists Nothing gets logged to /var/log/xend-debug.log or /var/log/xend.log when I receive this error message. Am I doing something wrong? From dfordham at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 02:55:25 2006 From: dfordham at gmail.com (Doug Fordham) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:55:25 -0500 Subject: Eclipse - failed dependencies - after 10 Feb Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43EEA39D.1080802@gmail.com> Don Springall wrote: >> From: Doug Fordham >> Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >> >> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >> >> Subject: Re: Eclipse - failed dependencies - after 10 Feb Update >> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:20:44 -0500 >> >> No solutions at the moment...ran a minor update this morning: >> Updated: gnupg2.i386 0:1.9.20-1.fc5.1 gpgme.i386 0:1.1.0-3.fc5.1 >> libksba.i386 0:0.9.13-2.fc5.1 pinentry.i386 0:0.7.2-1.fc5.1 >> yumex.noarch 0:0.99.5-1.0.fc5 >> Complete! >> >> ....but still needed to exclude the Eclipse entries: >> yum --exclude=eclipse-platform --exclude=eclipse-platform-devel.i386 >> --exclude=eclipse-rcp --exclude=eclipse-jdt --exclude=eclipse-ecj >> --exclude=eclipse-bugzilla --exclude=1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc >> --exclude=libswt3-gtk2 update >> >> >> MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: >>> From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com >>> [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Doug Fordham >>> ...running a "yum update" produces the following: >>> Resolving Dependencies >>> --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. >>> ---> Package eclipse-bugzilla.i386 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2 set to be updated >>> ---> Package eclipse-jdt.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated >>> Package >>> >>> ---> eclipse-rcp.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated Package >>> ---> eclipse-ecj.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated Package >>> ---> eclipse-platform.i386 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc set to be updated >>> --> Running transaction check >>> --> Processing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 for package: >>> eclipse-bugzilla >>> --> Processing Dependency: java-javadoc for package: >>> eclipse-platform --> Processing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = >>> 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc for package: >>> eclipse-platform >>> --> Finished Dependency Resolution >>> Error: Missing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 is needed by >>> package >>> eclipse-bugzilla >>> Error: Missing Dependency: java-javadoc is needed by package >>> eclipse-platform >>> Error: Missing Dependency: libswt3-gtk2 = 1:3.1.2-1jpp_5fc is needed by >>> package eclipse-platform >>> >>> ...no amount of fiddling with exclude statements in yum yields >>> result. Anyone else seeing this behavior? >>> -- >>> Yes I was seeing this myself yesterday actually and you're right, I >>> couldn't figure out a proper exclude that would allow the yum update to >>> occur and not break everything. Any solutions? >>> >>> Michael Weiner > > I ended up using the following yesterday to get things to go: > yum update > --exclude={tix,tkinter,eclipse-*,libswt3-gtk2,python,python-devel} > > I probally excluded too much of the eclipse stuff but at least it ran > okay. > > Actually got things to go with the exception of eclipse-bugzilla by using the the script pointed to by David Boles in this thread. I previously had partial success by excluding all of the eclipse stuff as you did; yum update still reports: Resolving Dependencies --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package eclipse-bugzilla.i386 1:0.1.1_fc-6.2 set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 for package: eclipse-bugzilla --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 is needed by package eclipse-bugzilla [root at localhost doug]# rpm -qa eclipse-bugzilla eclipse-bugzilla-0.1.1_fc-6 [root at localhost doug]# rpm -qa eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-3.1.2-1jpp_5fc From gstool at earthlink.net Sun Feb 12 03:45:14 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:45:14 -0600 Subject: Unending zip drive access after today's updates In-Reply-To: <1139512070.3918.1.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> References: <1139506219.2968.4.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> <20060209173541.GG28814@redhat.com> <1139512070.3918.1.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1139715914.10929.1.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 13:07 -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 12:35 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:30:18AM -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > > > I updated by FC5T2 system this morning. After reboot to the new kernel, > > > the system continuously accessed a zip disk in my zip drive, hdb4. I > > > finally rebooted and ejected the disk, starting again without it in > > > place. > > > > > > After boot, I inserted the disk and a normal amount of activity ensued > > > to recognize the disk, but it will not mount. > > > > > > Anyone else see the same thing? What should I bugzilla this against? > > > > The kernel is just doing what someone asked it to. > > I'll bet it's hal probing it. Does it stop if you 'service haldaemon stop' ? > > > > Dave > > > No, that does nothing to stop the activity. > > [root at fc5t2 ~]# service haldaemon stop > Stopping HAL daemon: [ OK ] > > Thanks for replying. > > Gerry > I noticed today that on reboot, the thrashing of the zip drive starts when udev is starting. Gerry From gstool at earthlink.net Sun Feb 12 04:34:53 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:34:53 -0600 Subject: Unending zip drive access after today's updates In-Reply-To: <1139715914.10929.1.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> References: <1139506219.2968.4.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> <20060209173541.GG28814@redhat.com> <1139512070.3918.1.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> <1139715914.10929.1.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1139718893.10929.3.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> On Sat, 2006-02-11 at 21:45 -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 13:07 -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 12:35 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:30:18AM -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > > > > I updated by FC5T2 system this morning. After reboot to the new kernel, > > > > the system continuously accessed a zip disk in my zip drive, hdb4. I > > > > finally rebooted and ejected the disk, starting again without it in > > > > place. > > > > > > > > After boot, I inserted the disk and a normal amount of activity ensued > > > > to recognize the disk, but it will not mount. > > > > > > > > Anyone else see the same thing? What should I bugzilla this against? > > > > > > The kernel is just doing what someone asked it to. > > > I'll bet it's hal probing it. Does it stop if you 'service haldaemon stop' ? > > > > > > Dave > > > > > No, that does nothing to stop the activity. > > > > [root at fc5t2 ~]# service haldaemon stop > > Stopping HAL daemon: [ OK ] > > > > Thanks for replying. > > > > Gerry > > > I noticed today that on reboot, the thrashing > of the zip drive starts when udev is starting. > > Gerry Bug #181041 filed. From tsimi at speakeasy.net Sun Feb 12 05:50:36 2006 From: tsimi at speakeasy.net (Todd Simi) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:50:36 -0800 Subject: Please _do not_ strip out the patch that brings up applications behind gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <20060205163235.01D91733F8@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060205163235.01D91733F8@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139723436.10330.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I'd really prefer that the application I am starting comes up on top. After all, thats the program I am going to and asking to execute. Todd > On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 18:49 +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: > > How difficult would it be to build in the ability, and make it configurable? > > I can see the argument to both sides; doesn't _seem_ like it would be that > > difficult to make it configurable; then again I am not the one writing the > > code and haven't even looked at it so..... > > I agree. Especially, when using KDE or GNOME as the GUI environment for > a control system. When calling XRaiseWindow the window must come to the > foreground to report an alarm for example. We also need the option to > say, "remain on top". > > > > Thanks, > Ernesto > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Timms" > > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 6:13 PM > > Subject: Re: Please _do not_ strip out the patch that brings up applications > > behind gnome-terminal > > > > > > > Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > > > > >>Dave Atkins on 02/01/2006 12:48 PM responded > > >>with: > > >> > > >>>On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 21:09 -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > > >>>. . . > > >>> > > >>>If it's down to voting for one or the other, I can't stand applications > > >>>that steal the focus or the foreground. > > >>> > > >> > > >>I agree with that statement. Applications that are already running > > >>shouldn't steal focus, However the first window an application creates > > >>should _always_ be on top. > > >> > > > What if in your terminal you type in succession: > > > oocalc & > > > mozilla & > > > mplayer & > > > and every app takes 5-10-15 seconds to show ? (like if you don't have the > > > fastest / most recent machine on the block). > > > Do you want the first one you started to end up on top, the second or the > > > third ? Or maybe the fastest, (which you start typing in) then second > > > fastest comes over top, stealing the focus, then third fastest. > > > When I work, the other apps are just tools that I know I'll be needing > > > soon; and I want them to be ready for my input when I am ready to give > > > them some work (focus) to do. > > > > > >>I really don't understand why you would want to start an application, > > >>and yet have its window buried underneath everything else. > > >>After all, the reason you executed it, was to use it. > > >> > > >>For the last 20 years the convention has been that when an > > >>application is executed, its window appears on the top of > > >>the stack. This shouldn't change. > > >> > > > Yes, it really should change. Forcing people to do things in a less than > > > productive way for a long time doesn't make it right or better! Think of > > > your computer as your personal assistant: tell it to go do something; when > > > _you_ are ready respond to the results (app) that it has created, you > > > change the focus yourself using Alt-Tab (or the mouse if you want to do it > > > the slow way). > > > > > >>And if you started an app to use it later, then its your responsibility > > >>to push it down the stack wherever _you_ want. > > >> > > > No, I'm doing work involving multiple apps (even maybe testing FC). I need > > > to gedit a log file, open bugzilla in a browser, and do a dir list. While > > > these separate apps are starting up, I re-started the app again from the > > > menu etc / blah. > > > > > >>... > > >>And finally, to have special code in a terminal emulator that is trying > > >>to second guess what to do based on the timing of typing is ridiculous. > > >> > > > I agree it's not worth changing the default behaviour for terminals > > > because the new way is better. > > > > > >>> Try using internet explorer > > >>>while working in word, and see how distracting it is. > > >>> > > >>I'm not to sure I understand what your compalining about. > > >>When I use 'word' its on top, and has focus, any painting IE does, > > >>or any other app for that matter, happens underneath. (BTW I always > > >>use overlapping windows, not full screen windows.) > > >> > > > What about a web site that waits a bit then pops up another window, right > > > over the top of where you are typing in oowriter. Another great reason for > > > focus to stay on what you are working on. You'll get to those other apps > > > when _you_ are ready for them, not when it eventually finishes loading. > > > You are the master; the computer is _your_ slave :) > > > > > >>>I have really become accustomed to indicating with my mouse onto which > > >>>window I want in front, and into which window I'd like to type. > > >>> > > >>Agreed, but thats once everything has started. > > >> > > > Alt-Tab has been around a long time for switching to next window (which in > > > this case turns out to be the one you are yet to click on and pre > > > started). > > > If I have an email with some pages of text, and a link or attachment, I > > > would prefer to click on the attachment, causing it to preload while I > > > continue to read the rest of the email. When I finish reading the mail, I > > > alt-tab to the created window. This is a time saving way to work. I get > > > enough interuptions all day without the computer interupting me! > > > > > >>... snip ... > > >> > > >>Hopefully, this is 'start under' broken behavious a only a gnome thing, > > >>and KDE doesn't turn its back on 20 years of standards > > >> > > > Hopefully, this much better behaviour becomes standard soon, and on all > > > operating systems. > > > DaveT. > > > > > > -- > > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > From veillard at redhat.com Sun Feb 12 10:45:07 2006 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 05:45:07 -0500 Subject: cannot restart xen domain In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060212104506.GZ9506@redhat.com> On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 11:29:47AM +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: > I installed FC5T2 in a xen Domain. The install completed properly and > shutdown: > > unmounting filesystems... > /mnt/runtime done > disabling /dev/loop0 > /proc done > /dev/pts done > /sys done > /tmp/ramfs done > /selinux done > /mnt/sysimage/proc done > /mnt/sysimage/sys done > /mnt/sysimage/selinux done > /mnt/sysimage/dev done > /mnt/sysimage done > rebooting system > Restarting system. > If your install has exited, you can restart your guest by running > 'xm create -c fc5t2xen'. Otherwise, you can reconnect to the console > by running 'xm console fc5t2xen' > > When I try to run the command above I get the following: > > # xm create -c fc5t2xen > Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". > Error: [Errno 17] File exists check with 'xm console fc5t2xen' that the doamin ain't running anymore, then you can try to destroy it and then restart it xm destroy fc5t2xen xm create fc5t2xen sometime a small delay exists between the time a command is launched and the time it's completed. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From luc.maignan at winxpert.com Sun Feb 12 10:52:46 2006 From: luc.maignan at winxpert.com (Luc MAIGNAN) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:52:46 +0100 Subject: cannot restart xen domain In-Reply-To: <20060212104506.GZ9506@redhat.com> References: <20060212104506.GZ9506@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43EF137E.2090803@winxpert.com> Sorry but I use this question to try to learn something... : what is a xen domain ? Best regards Daniel Veillard a ?crit : > On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 11:29:47AM +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: > >> I installed FC5T2 in a xen Domain. The install completed properly and >> shutdown: >> >> unmounting filesystems... >> /mnt/runtime done >> disabling /dev/loop0 >> /proc done >> /dev/pts done >> /sys done >> /tmp/ramfs done >> /selinux done >> /mnt/sysimage/proc done >> /mnt/sysimage/sys done >> /mnt/sysimage/selinux done >> /mnt/sysimage/dev done >> /mnt/sysimage done >> rebooting system >> Restarting system. >> If your install has exited, you can restart your guest by running >> 'xm create -c fc5t2xen'. Otherwise, you can reconnect to the console >> by running 'xm console fc5t2xen' >> >> When I try to run the command above I get the following: >> >> # xm create -c fc5t2xen >> Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". >> Error: [Errno 17] File exists >> > > check with 'xm console fc5t2xen' that the doamin ain't running anymore, > then you can try to destroy it and then restart it > > xm destroy fc5t2xen > xm create fc5t2xen > > sometime a small delay exists between the time a command is launched and the > time it's completed. > > Daniel > > From veillard at redhat.com Sun Feb 12 10:58:23 2006 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 05:58:23 -0500 Subject: cannot restart xen domain In-Reply-To: <43EF137E.2090803@winxpert.com> References: <20060212104506.GZ9506@redhat.com> <43EF137E.2090803@winxpert.com> Message-ID: <20060212105823.GA9506@redhat.com> On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 11:52:46AM +0100, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: > Sorry but I use this question to try to learn something... : what is a > xen domain ? An instance of an OS running on top of the Xen hypervisor. Sorry but I use some of my existing docs to answer, read for example http://libvir.org/architecture.html and some of the papers and docs at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/architecture.html http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenIntro Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From monty19 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 12 11:06:24 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:06:24 +0900 Subject: cannot restart xen domain References: <20060212104506.GZ9506@redhat.com> Message-ID: I have tried most all of that (should have mentioned that in the previous post, my bad.) Following is the output for each: # xm list Name ID Mem(MiB) VCPUs State Time(s) Domain-0 0 192 1 r----- 99.0 #xm destroy fc5t2xen Error: Domain 'fc5t2xen' not found when running 'xm destroy' xm create fc5t2xen Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". Error: [Errno 17] File exists The config file was created with xenguest-install.py and its contents are as follows: # cat /etc/xen/fc5t2xen # Automatically generated xen config file name = "fc5t2xen" memory = "256" disk = [ 'file:/opt/xen/fc5t2xen.disk,xvda,w' ] vif = [ 'mac=00:16:3e:00:3f:02' ] bootloader="/usr/bin/pygrub" on_reboot = 'restart' on_crash = 'restart' I have shutdown and cold booted the machine in the hopes that the process would clean up whatever problem exists, but no go. I've tried cleaning up (deleting) xen related /tmp and /var/run and rebooting as well. I'm sure I probably could have done more damage than good deleting some of the stuff I did, but a quick reboot afterwards and the system seems no worse for wear, although the error is persisting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Veillard" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:45 PM Subject: Re: cannot restart xen domain > On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 11:29:47AM +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: >> I installed FC5T2 in a xen Domain. The install completed properly and >> shutdown: >> >> unmounting filesystems... >> /mnt/runtime done >> disabling /dev/loop0 >> /proc done >> /dev/pts done >> /sys done >> /tmp/ramfs done >> /selinux done >> /mnt/sysimage/proc done >> /mnt/sysimage/sys done >> /mnt/sysimage/selinux done >> /mnt/sysimage/dev done >> /mnt/sysimage done >> rebooting system >> Restarting system. >> If your install has exited, you can restart your guest by running >> 'xm create -c fc5t2xen'. Otherwise, you can reconnect to the console >> by running 'xm console fc5t2xen' >> >> When I try to run the command above I get the following: >> >> # xm create -c fc5t2xen >> Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". >> Error: [Errno 17] File exists > > check with 'xm console fc5t2xen' that the doamin ain't running anymore, > then you can try to destroy it and then restart it > > xm destroy fc5t2xen > xm create fc5t2xen > > sometime a small delay exists between the time a command is launched and > the > time it's completed. > > Daniel > > -- > Daniel Veillard | Red Hat http://redhat.com/ > veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ > http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From monty19 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 12 11:07:24 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:07:24 +0900 Subject: cannot restart xen domain References: <20060212104506.GZ9506@redhat.com> <43EF137E.2090803@winxpert.com> Message-ID: You can start here to find out information about xen. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraXenQuickstartFC5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luc MAIGNAN" To: ; "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:52 PM Subject: Re: cannot restart xen domain > Sorry but I use this question to try to learn something... : what is a > xen domain ? > > Best regards > > > > Daniel Veillard a ?crit : >> On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 11:29:47AM +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: >> >>> I installed FC5T2 in a xen Domain. The install completed properly and >>> shutdown: >>> >>> unmounting filesystems... >>> /mnt/runtime done >>> disabling /dev/loop0 >>> /proc done >>> /dev/pts done >>> /sys done >>> /tmp/ramfs done >>> /selinux done >>> /mnt/sysimage/proc done >>> /mnt/sysimage/sys done >>> /mnt/sysimage/selinux done >>> /mnt/sysimage/dev done >>> /mnt/sysimage done >>> rebooting system >>> Restarting system. >>> If your install has exited, you can restart your guest by running >>> 'xm create -c fc5t2xen'. Otherwise, you can reconnect to the console >>> by running 'xm console fc5t2xen' >>> >>> When I try to run the command above I get the following: >>> >>> # xm create -c fc5t2xen >>> Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". >>> Error: [Errno 17] File exists >>> >> >> check with 'xm console fc5t2xen' that the doamin ain't running anymore, >> then you can try to destroy it and then restart it >> >> xm destroy fc5t2xen >> xm create fc5t2xen >> >> sometime a small delay exists between the time a command is launched and >> the >> time it's completed. >> >> Daniel >> >> > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From monty19 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 12 11:44:55 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:44:55 +0900 Subject: cannot restart xen domain References: <20060212104506.GZ9506@redhat.com> Message-ID: I had tried those output for each is as follows: # xm list Name ID Mem(MiB) VCPUs State Time(s) Domain-0 0 463 1 r----- 93.0 # xm destroy fc5t2xen Error: Domain 'fc5t2xen' not found when running 'xm destroy' # xm create fc5t2xen Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". Error: [Errno 17] File exists # cat /etc/xen/fc5t2xen # Automatically generated xen config file name = "fc5t2xen" memory = "256" disk = [ 'file:/opt/xen/fc5t2xen.disk,xvda,w' ] vif = [ 'mac=00:16:3e:00:3f:02' ] bootloader="/usr/bin/pygrub" on_reboot = 'restart' on_crash = 'restart' # ls -al /opt/xen/fc5t2xen.disk -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10737418241 Feb 10 12:42 /opt/xen/fc5t2xen.disk I've actually gone as far as to shutdown the machine and start it up again in the hopes that whatever was causing the problem would be cleaned up, but that was not the case. I also went and deleted everything xen related in /tmp and /var/run and reboot in hopes that that would help, but no go. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Veillard" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:45 PM Subject: Re: cannot restart xen domain > On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 11:29:47AM +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: >> I installed FC5T2 in a xen Domain. The install completed properly and >> shutdown: >> >> unmounting filesystems... >> /mnt/runtime done >> disabling /dev/loop0 >> /proc done >> /dev/pts done >> /sys done >> /tmp/ramfs done >> /selinux done >> /mnt/sysimage/proc done >> /mnt/sysimage/sys done >> /mnt/sysimage/selinux done >> /mnt/sysimage/dev done >> /mnt/sysimage done >> rebooting system >> Restarting system. >> If your install has exited, you can restart your guest by running >> 'xm create -c fc5t2xen'. Otherwise, you can reconnect to the console >> by running 'xm console fc5t2xen' >> >> When I try to run the command above I get the following: >> >> # xm create -c fc5t2xen >> Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". >> Error: [Errno 17] File exists > > check with 'xm console fc5t2xen' that the doamin ain't running anymore, > then you can try to destroy it and then restart it > > xm destroy fc5t2xen > xm create fc5t2xen > > sometime a small delay exists between the time a command is launched and > the > time it's completed. > > Daniel > > -- > Daniel Veillard | Red Hat http://redhat.com/ > veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ > http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From gbofspam at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 12:58:58 2006 From: gbofspam at gmail.com (gb spam) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:58:58 -0500 Subject: cannot restart xen domain In-Reply-To: References: <20060212104506.GZ9506@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0602120458y72247be1g8011a84c457094e4@mail.gmail.com> On 2/12/06, Jason Montleon wrote: > >> When I try to run the command above I get the following: > >> > >> # xm create -c fc5t2xen > >> Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". > >> Error: [Errno 17] File exists > > A couple of other straws to clutch at: yum update xen kernel-xen-hypervisor strace python /usr/sbin/xm The later may well tell you which file it is that already exists that it doesn't like. Look for open, stat and other file functions. From monty19 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 12 13:38:47 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:38:47 +0900 Subject: cannot restart xen domain References: <20060212104506.GZ9506@redhat.com> Message-ID: Looks like it is a known bug. Knowing the file name made it a little easier to search around. I'm guessing this is what hit me: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.xen.devel/19347 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Montleon" To: ; "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 8:44 PM Subject: Re: cannot restart xen domain >I had tried those output for each is as follows: > # xm list > Name ID Mem(MiB) VCPUs State Time(s) > Domain-0 0 463 1 r----- 93.0 > > # xm destroy fc5t2xen > Error: Domain 'fc5t2xen' not found when running 'xm destroy' > > # xm create fc5t2xen > Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". > Error: [Errno 17] File exists > > # cat /etc/xen/fc5t2xen > # Automatically generated xen config file > name = "fc5t2xen" > memory = "256" > disk = [ 'file:/opt/xen/fc5t2xen.disk,xvda,w' ] > vif = [ 'mac=00:16:3e:00:3f:02' ] > bootloader="/usr/bin/pygrub" > > on_reboot = 'restart' > on_crash = 'restart' > > # ls -al /opt/xen/fc5t2xen.disk > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10737418241 Feb 10 12:42 /opt/xen/fc5t2xen.disk > > I've actually gone as far as to shutdown the machine and start it up again > in the hopes that whatever was causing the problem would be cleaned up, > but that was not the case. I also went and deleted everything xen related > in /tmp and /var/run and reboot in hopes that that would help, but no go. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Veillard" > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: cannot restart xen domain > > >> On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 11:29:47AM +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: >>> I installed FC5T2 in a xen Domain. The install completed properly and >>> shutdown: >>> >>> unmounting filesystems... >>> /mnt/runtime done >>> disabling /dev/loop0 >>> /proc done >>> /dev/pts done >>> /sys done >>> /tmp/ramfs done >>> /selinux done >>> /mnt/sysimage/proc done >>> /mnt/sysimage/sys done >>> /mnt/sysimage/selinux done >>> /mnt/sysimage/dev done >>> /mnt/sysimage done >>> rebooting system >>> Restarting system. >>> If your install has exited, you can restart your guest by running >>> 'xm create -c fc5t2xen'. Otherwise, you can reconnect to the console >>> by running 'xm console fc5t2xen' >>> >>> When I try to run the command above I get the following: >>> >>> # xm create -c fc5t2xen >>> Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". >>> Error: [Errno 17] File exists >> >> check with 'xm console fc5t2xen' that the doamin ain't running anymore, >> then you can try to destroy it and then restart it >> >> xm destroy fc5t2xen >> xm create fc5t2xen >> >> sometime a small delay exists between the time a command is launched and >> the >> time it's completed. >> >> Daniel >> >> -- >> Daniel Veillard | Red Hat http://redhat.com/ >> veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ >> http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ >> >> -- >> fedora-test-list mailing list >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From monty19 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 12 13:23:03 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:23:03 +0900 Subject: cannot restart xen domain References: <20060212104506.GZ9506@redhat.com> <6c3f5e6c0602120458y72247be1g8011a84c457094e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Awesome. That took about two seconds. I already have the latest kernel (I type yum -y update anytime I get bored or take a breather to make sure I am working with the latest, as well as have yum and yum-updateonboot daemons running. But strace pumped out a mess load of output that ended in: access("/usr/bin/pygrub", X_OK) = 0 access("/usr/bin/pygrub", X_OK) = 0 access("/opt/xen/fc5t2xen.disk", R_OK) = 0 mknod("/var/lib/xen/xenbl", S_IFIFO|0600) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) write(2, "Error:", 6Error:) = 6 write(2, " ", 1 ) = 1 write(2, "[Errno 17] File exists", 22[Errno 17] File exists) = 22 write(2, "\n", 1 ) = 1 close(5) = 0 munmap(0xb7cb7000, 4096) = 0 futex(0x86ee6c8, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x86ee6c8, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x86cee40, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x86f3290, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x86f3290, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x86cee40, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {0xd45bd0, [], 0}, 8) = 0 futex(0x8691820, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x86f3290, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x86ee6c8, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x86a3998, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x864ac10, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x8649220, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x85fe198, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x85fe198, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x85fe198, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 exit_group(1) = ? Process 2984 detached So, I did the following: [root at fc5 xen]# ls -al /var/lib/xen/xenbl prw------- 1 root root 0 Feb 9 12:06 /var/lib/xen/xenbl [root at fc5 xen]# cat /var/lib/xen/xenbl [root at fc5 xen]# rm /var/lib/xen/xenbl rm: remove fifo `/var/lib/xen/xenbl'? y [root at fc5 xen]# /usr/sbin/xm create fc5t2xen Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". Going to boot Fedora Core (2.6.15-1.29_FC5guest) kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.29_FC5guest initrd: /boot/initrd-2.6.15-1.29_FC5guest.img Started domain fc5t2xen And now I can connect and use the domain. I do not know what the fifo file I deleted does though, and it was not recreated when I started the domain again. That concerns me, but not a lot as everything _seems_ to be working properly.... I am also not sure if this is some sort of 'feature' (i.e. it happened for a good reason) or if it is a bug. ----- Original Message ----- From: "gb spam" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:58 PM Subject: Re: cannot restart xen domain > On 2/12/06, Jason Montleon wrote: >> >> When I try to run the command above I get the following: >> >> >> >> # xm create -c fc5t2xen >> >> Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". >> >> Error: [Errno 17] File exists >> > > > A couple of other straws to clutch at: > > yum update xen kernel-xen-hypervisor > > strace python /usr/sbin/xm > > The later may well tell you which file it is that already exists that > it doesn't like. Look for open, stat and other file functions. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From gbofspam at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 14:29:15 2006 From: gbofspam at gmail.com (gb spam) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:29:15 -0500 Subject: cannot restart xen domain In-Reply-To: References: <20060212104506.GZ9506@redhat.com> <6c3f5e6c0602120458y72247be1g8011a84c457094e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0602120629y495ce6a6obb90835ff7cd4c3b@mail.gmail.com> On 2/12/06, Jason Montleon wrote: > [root at fc5 xen]# ls -al /var/lib/xen/xenbl > prw------- 1 root root 0 Feb 9 12:06 /var/lib/xen/xenbl > [root at fc5 xen]# cat /var/lib/xen/xenbl > > [root at fc5 xen]# rm /var/lib/xen/xenbl > rm: remove fifo `/var/lib/xen/xenbl'? y > [root at fc5 xen]# /usr/sbin/xm create fc5t2xen > Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". > Going to boot Fedora Core (2.6.15-1.29_FC5guest) > kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.29_FC5guest > initrd: /boot/initrd-2.6.15-1.29_FC5guest.img > Started domain fc5t2xen > > And now I can connect and use the domain. I do not know what the fifo file > I deleted does though, and it was not recreated when I started the domain > again. That concerns me, but not a lot as everything _seems_ to be working > properly.... I am also not sure if this is some sort of 'feature' (i.e. it > happened for a good reason) or if it is a bug. I don't have the fifo either. withor wihtout any domains running, so you may well be ok. that said, it may just be a transient file that only exists briefly at the beginning of startup - which would explain why they don't check for its existence before creating it. its only a guess, but if i'm right, i would say its a bug. From luc.maignan at winxpert.com Sun Feb 12 15:27:48 2006 From: luc.maignan at winxpert.com (Luc MAIGNAN) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:27:48 +0100 Subject: Problem in text mode Message-ID: <43EF53F4.4060509@winxpert.com> Hi, I have successfully configured X but when I press CTRL+ALT+F1 to get to the first console the display is scrambled, i cannot use any console. Ideas ? Regards From n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 15:37:52 2006 From: n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com (n0dalus) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 02:07:52 +1030 Subject: Problem in text mode In-Reply-To: <43EF53F4.4060509@winxpert.com> References: <43EF53F4.4060509@winxpert.com> Message-ID: <6280325c0602120737y777df773lf11848a4bc4789dc@mail.gmail.com> On 2/13/06, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: > Hi, > > I have successfully configured X but when I press CTRL+ALT+F1 to get to > the first console the display is scrambled, i cannot use any console. > Ideas ? > I had something like this occur while using the 'vesa' driver whenever I changed resolution. If you're using the vesa driver, try changing to something more appropriate for your card, eg 'ati' or 'nv'. Hope that helps, n0dalus. From n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 15:39:33 2006 From: n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com (n0dalus) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 02:09:33 +1030 Subject: Problem in text mode In-Reply-To: <6280325c0602120737y777df773lf11848a4bc4789dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <43EF53F4.4060509@winxpert.com> <6280325c0602120737y777df773lf11848a4bc4789dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6280325c0602120739l197ff40do196f712d3dcc72be@mail.gmail.com> On 2/13/06, n0dalus wrote: > > If you're using the vesa driver, try changing to something more > appropriate for your card, eg 'ati' or 'nv'. > I forgot to mention, this is in the xorg.conf file in case you didn't know what I was talking about. n0dalus. From luc.maignan at winxpert.com Sun Feb 12 15:51:00 2006 From: luc.maignan at winxpert.com (Luc MAIGNAN) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:51:00 +0100 Subject: Problem installing FC5T2 Message-ID: <43EF5964.2090709@winxpert.com> Hi, I try to install FC5 T2 on a laptop : Compaq Presario R3000 (a FC4 was previously well installted). The installation hangs or make the system reboot ... I try the following options : linux acpi=off nofb noprobe Other ideas ? Best regards From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Feb 12 16:54:17 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:54:17 +0000 Subject: Rawhide updates Message-ID: <1139763257.3475.35.camel@T7.Linux> Hi, Is the lack of updates today down to the same reason as given yesterday? I'm not complaining - I actually think it's great the amount of care given to this. I just wish mono was rebuilt... 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Now, what I don't understand, is that if I compiled it on the same system, why does it say it's compiled for 6.9 - not 7.0? I've never managed to get the LVN ATI drivers to work under rawhide - but people swear by them - so I figure that I must be doing something wrong. At the moment, I'm using the driver built from: http://www.leemhuis.info/files/fedorarpms/MISC.lvn/graphics/ (Direct link: http://www.leemhuis.info/files/fedorarpms/MISC.lvn/ graphics/xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-8.21.7.1-0.lvn.1.src.rpm) This driver supports X.org 7.0.0.0 - but is currently only 8.21 - which gives me some issues - hence the desire to try the new driver. Is there some patch or something that I should be applying to the LVN src.rpm to make it work with X.org 7.0.0.0? I must be missing something here, but I can't find it :| -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From katzj at redhat.com Sun Feb 12 17:08:13 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 12:08:13 -0500 Subject: cannot restart xen domain In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1139764093.12442.13.camel@bree.local.net> On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 11:29 +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: > # xm create -c fc5t2xen > Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". > Error: [Errno 17] File exists Remove /var/lib/xen/xenbl and you should be good to go. I really should work on making that code a little bit more resilient :-/ Jeremy From jkeating at redhat.com Sun Feb 12 17:28:38 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:28:38 -0800 Subject: Rawhide updates In-Reply-To: <1139763257.3475.35.camel@T7.Linux> References: <1139763257.3475.35.camel@T7.Linux> Message-ID: <1139765318.31644.33.camel@ender> On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 16:54 +0000, Paul wrote: > > Is the lack of updates today down to the same reason as given yesterday? > I'm not complaining - I actually think it's great the amount of care > given to this. I just wish mono was rebuilt... Yes, same reason. I still have 1/3 of the distro left to built, should be done with that today, then I'll fix the rawhide script and get a release out there. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Michael Weiner From don_springall at hotmail.com Sun Feb 12 18:07:59 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:07:59 -0700 Subject: Rawhide updates In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDB88@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: >From: "MW Mike Weiner (5028)" >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > >Subject: RE: Rawhide updates >Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 12:55:52 -0500 > >From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com >[mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Keating > > > Yes, same reason. I still have 1/3 of the distro left to built, >should be done > > with that today, then I'll fix the rawhide script and get a release >out there. >-- >That would rock, thank you ! > >Michael Weiner > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list There are many updates dated the 11 & 12 of Feb in http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ but the repo data files are dated the 10 of Feb. From mike at miketc.com Sun Feb 12 19:13:36 2006 From: mike at miketc.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:13:36 -0600 Subject: Fw: Rawhide updates Message-ID: <002f01c63008$6d159380$0301a8c0@miketc.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Chambers" To: Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Rawhide updates > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Springall" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:07 PM > Subject: RE: Rawhide updates > > >> There are many updates dated the 11 & 12 of Feb in >> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ >> but the repo data files are dated the 10 of Feb. > > Yes you are correct, and since I mirror rawhide, I did a localupdate on > the updated rpms, which updated smoothly. > > BUT... > > When I had to reboot, the X server (or at least gdm/metacity/gnome) won't > start for some reason. So I am guessing am going to have to wait > for another update to happen and get hopefully something fixed. > > Thanks, > > Mike From fedora at leemhuis.info Sun Feb 12 19:18:01 2006 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:18:01 +0100 Subject: ATI Drivers revisited. In-Reply-To: <2A0B404B-E6F2-49E9-A6FA-58E56C7E22A4@crc.id.au> References: <2A0B404B-E6F2-49E9-A6FA-58E56C7E22A4@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <1139771881.2975.49.camel@localhost.localdomain> Am Montag, den 13.02.2006, 03:58 +1100 schrieb Steven Haigh: > [...] > At the moment, I'm using the driver built from: > http://www.leemhuis.info/files/fedorarpms/MISC.lvn/graphics/ > (Direct link: http://www.leemhuis.info/files/fedorarpms/MISC.lvn/ > graphics/xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-8.21.7.1-0.lvn.1.src.rpm) > > This driver supports X.org 7.0.0.0 - but is currently only 8.21 - > which gives me some issues - hence the desire to try the new driver. > > Is there some patch or something that I should be applying to the LVN > src.rpm to make it work with X.org 7.0.0.0? I must be missing > something here, but I can't find it :| To me the obvious solution would be: Look into the changelog of the working rpms and search for the email address of the packager. Contact him and ask if he plans to update the drivers to the latest version. Some birds told me that the update to 8.22.5 currently is uploading to above URL. Please tell the maintainer if everything works -- he got nearly no feedback on them yet and has no hardware to test them atm. If there is something wrong with them please tell the maintainer about the problems so he has a chance to fix it in a later release. :-)) CU thl -- Thorsten Leemhuis From davej at redhat.com Sun Feb 12 19:25:23 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:25:23 -0500 Subject: Rawhide updates In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDB88@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDB88@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: <20060212192523.GE21596@redhat.com> On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 12:55:52PM -0500, MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Keating > > > Yes, same reason. I still have 1/3 of the distro left to built, > should be done > > with that today, then I'll fix the rawhide script and get a release > out there. > -- > That would rock, thank you ! For those wanting something new to play with, the kernel snapshots are available an hour after each one is built at http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/devel Dave From mike at miketc.com Sun Feb 12 19:06:24 2006 From: mike at miketc.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:06:24 -0600 Subject: Rawhide updates References: Message-ID: <000401c63007$6b0aebe0$0301a8c0@miketc.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Springall" To: Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:07 PM Subject: RE: Rawhide updates > There are many updates dated the 11 & 12 of Feb in > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ > but the repo data files are dated the 10 of Feb. Yes you are correct, and since I mirror rawhide, I did a localupdate on the updated rpms, which updated smoothly. BUT... When I had to reboot, the X server (or at least gdm/metacity/gnome) won't start for some reason. So I am guessing am going to have to wait for another update to happen and get hopefully something fixed. Thanks, Mike From valentin.chub at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 20:13:11 2006 From: valentin.chub at gmail.com (Valentin Chub) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:13:11 +0200 Subject: install FC5 T2 on a laptop Message-ID: hi, Luc i have some problem with notebook IBM t43p Message: 6 Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:51:00 +0100 From: Luc MAIGNAN Subject: Problem installing FC5T2 To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Message-ID: <43EF5964.2090709 at winxpert.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I try to install FC5 T2 on a laptop : Compaq Presario R3000 (a FC4 was previously well installted). The installation hangs or make the system reboot ... I try the following options : linux acpi=off nofb noprobe Other ideas ? 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From rmo at sunnmore.net Sun Feb 12 22:22:33 2006 From: rmo at sunnmore.net (Roy-Magne Mo) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:22:33 +0100 Subject: smbfs not in the kernel In-Reply-To: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com> References: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com> Message-ID: <1139782953.2369.0.camel@host-81-191-138-132.bluecom.no> su den 12.02.2006 klokka 17:19 (-0500) skreiv Partha Bagchi: > I tried to mount a windows share and I got the following error: > > ERROR: smbfs filesystem not supported by the kernel > Please refer to the smbmnt(8) manual page > smbmnt failed: 255 I believe smbfs has been dropped in favour of cifs, since smbfs is not maintained anymore. -- Roy-Magne Mo From pb at partha.com Sun Feb 12 22:37:41 2006 From: pb at partha.com (Partha Bagchi) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:37:41 -0500 Subject: smbfs not in the kernel In-Reply-To: <1139782953.2369.0.camel@host-81-191-138-132.bluecom.no> References: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com> <1139782953.2369.0.camel@host-81-191-138-132.bluecom.no> Message-ID: <43EFB8B5.8070005@partha.com> Roy-Magne Mo wrote: > su den 12.02.2006 klokka 17:19 (-0500) skreiv Partha Bagchi: > >> I tried to mount a windows share and I got the following error: >> >> ERROR: smbfs filesystem not supported by the kernel >> Please refer to the smbmnt(8) manual page >> smbmnt failed: 255 >> > > I believe smbfs has been dropped in favour of cifs, since smbfs is not > maintained anymore. > > > Thanks, I did not know that. I am slowly working through all the stuff I use and do, so must have missed the announcement regarding smbfs. :) From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun Feb 12 22:50:08 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:50:08 +0100 Subject: smbfs not in the kernel In-Reply-To: <43EFB8B5.8070005@partha.com> References: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com> <1139782953.2369.0.camel@host-81-191-138-132.bluecom.no> <43EFB8B5.8070005@partha.com> Message-ID: <43EFBBA0.5050400@gmx.de> On 12.02.2006 23:37, Partha Bagchi wrote: >> I believe smbfs has been dropped in favour of cifs, since smbfs is not >> maintained anymore. > > Thanks, I did not know that. I am slowly working through all the stuff > I use and do, so must have missed the announcement regarding smbfs. :) https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-January/msg00611.html https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-January/msg00649.html From pb at partha.com Sun Feb 12 23:03:11 2006 From: pb at partha.com (Partha Bagchi) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:03:11 -0500 Subject: smbfs not in the kernel In-Reply-To: <43EFBBA0.5050400@gmx.de> References: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com> <1139782953.2369.0.camel@host-81-191-138-132.bluecom.no> <43EFB8B5.8070005@partha.com> <43EFBBA0.5050400@gmx.de> Message-ID: <43EFBEAF.8040402@partha.com> shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > On 12.02.2006 23:37, Partha Bagchi wrote: > >>> I believe smbfs has been dropped in favour of cifs, since smbfs is not >>> maintained anymore. >> >> Thanks, I did not know that. I am slowly working through all the >> stuff I use and do, so must have missed the announcement regarding >> smbfs. :) > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-January/msg00611.html > > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-January/msg00649.html > > > However, if you use the Places -> Connect to Server, the connection is named smb:// etc in the file browser. From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun Feb 12 23:39:15 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 00:39:15 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43EFC723.1080002@gmx.de> On 03.02.2006 23:39, Jeremy Katz wrote: >Although I hate to do it, it looks like we're going to have to slip >Fedora Core 5 test3 by a week. There is an ABI change in the gcc/glibc >stack that requires a rebuild of the entire distribution. Given that, >there is no way that we'll be able to make a freeze date of Monday. So, >test3 will now freeze on Monday, 13 February with a release date of >Monday, 20 February. > > still 2006-02-13 test3 release http://fedora.redhat.com/About/schedule/ webcal://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/fedora-project.ics >We'll adjust the final schedule sometime next week based on the progress >of the rebuilding efforts. > $ date Mo Feb 13 00:38:36 CET 2006 good night -- shrek-m From paul at permanentmail.com Mon Feb 13 03:37:47 2006 From: paul at permanentmail.com (Paul Dickson) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:37:47 -0700 Subject: Rawhide updates In-Reply-To: <1139765318.31644.33.camel@ender> References: <1139763257.3475.35.camel@T7.Linux> <1139765318.31644.33.camel@ender> Message-ID: <20060212203747.f1bd2dca.paul@permanentmail.com> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:28:38 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 16:54 +0000, Paul wrote: > > > > Is the lack of updates today down to the same reason as given yesterday? > > I'm not complaining - I actually think it's great the amount of care > > given to this. I just wish mono was rebuilt... > > Yes, same reason. I still have 1/3 of the distro left to built, should > be done with that today, then I'll fix the rawhide script and get a > release out there. Four hours ago, I finished the first 2/3 with a 39 hour run of yum. Two other machines only took a couple of hours, but the six year old notebook (300 MHz P2) only has 256 MB of RAM (max'ed out) and 380 MB was swapped out. -Paul From wacker at octothorp.org Mon Feb 13 04:12:39 2006 From: wacker at octothorp.org (William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 21:12:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: <43EFC723.1080002@gmx.de> References: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> <43EFC723.1080002@gmx.de> Message-ID: On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > On 03.02.2006 23:39, Jeremy Katz wrote: > >> Although I hate to do it, it looks like we're going to have to slip >> Fedora Core 5 test3 by a week. There is an ABI change in the gcc/glibc >> stack that requires a rebuild of the entire distribution. Given that, >> there is no way that we'll be able to make a freeze date of Monday. So, >> test3 will now freeze on Monday, 13 February with a release date of >> Monday, 20 February. >> > > still 2006-02-13 test3 release > http://fedora.redhat.com/About/schedule/ > webcal://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/fedora-project.ics > >> We'll adjust the final schedule sometime next week based on the progress >> of the rebuilding efforts. >> > > $ date > Mo Feb 13 00:38:36 CET 2006 > > good night > > Well, I guess that's the answer to the question I was about to post regarding the new i386-global directory found in the i386 directory in the development tree. Yummy! yummy!! yummy!!! -- Bill in Denver From jkeating at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 04:59:09 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:59:09 -0800 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip In-Reply-To: References: <1139006387.2652.29.camel@bree.local.net> <43EFC723.1080002@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1139806749.31644.48.camel@ender> On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 21:12 -0700, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 wrote: > Well, I guess that's the answer to the question I was about to post > regarding the new i386-global directory found in the i386 directory in the > development tree. Yummy! yummy!! yummy!!! ERm, that was a messup on our part. Should hopefully be fixed tonight. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have to do the following before starting asterisk manually: chown -R asterisk:asterisk /dev/zap chown asterisk /dev/tty9 In FC4, I have the following set on zaptel.rules under /etc/udev/rules.d: KERNEL="zapctl", NAME="zap/ctl", OWNER="asterisk", GROUP="asterisk", MODE="0660" KERNEL="zaptimer", NAME="zap/timer", OWNER="asterisk", GROUP="asterisk", MODE="0660" KERNEL="zapchannel", NAME="zap/channel", OWNER="asterisk", GROUP="asterisk", MODE="0660" KERNEL="zappseudo", NAME="zap/pseudo", OWNER="asterisk", GROUP="asterisk", MODE="0660" KERNEL="zap[0-9]*", NAME="zap/%n", OWNER="asterisk", GROUP="asterisk", MODE="0660" KERNEL="tty9", OWNER="asterisk" That setting is the same in FC5t2, but the /etc/udev/udev.conf in FC5t2 only contains: udev_log="err" While in FC4 it contains: udev_root="/dev" udev_db="/dev/.udevdb" udev_rules="/etc/udev/rules.d" udev_log="err" I am not sure if I can use the same setting in FC5t2. Do you have any suggestion? Thanks a lot in advance for your help. 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From aryanto.rachmad at chello.at Mon Feb 13 07:43:51 2006 From: aryanto.rachmad at chello.at (Aryanto Rachmad) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 08:43:51 +0100 Subject: udev on FC5t2 References: <118701c6306a$b2d8b110$0e66970a@ds.mot.com> Message-ID: <11b701c63071$3b7ca520$0e66970a@ds.mot.com> Hello again, I forgot to mention the way I used to upgrade from FC4 to FC5t2. I did the following: wget http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/4.91/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/fedora-release-4.91-1.noarch.rpm rpm -Uvh fedora-release-4.91-1.noarch.rpm yum update I hope that would not cause any problems, especially the udev problem I am currently having. Cheers, Anto ----- Original Message ----- From: Aryanto Rachmad To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:57 AM Subject: udev on FC5t2 Hello All, I upgraded the OS of my IBM xSeries 330 from 2.6.15-1.1831_FC4-smp-i686 to 2.6.15-1.1928_FC5-smp-i686 due to the trouble I had getting MySQL 5.0 running on FC4. But now I have a little bit problem with udev. I am running asterisk PBX on this server with TDM400P PCI card, called zaptel device. Now in FC5t2, asterisk can not run automatically after reboot due to it can not load this zaptel device. I have to do the following before starting asterisk manually: chown -R asterisk:asterisk /dev/zap chown asterisk /dev/tty9 In FC4, I have the following set on zaptel.rules under /etc/udev/rules.d: KERNEL="zapctl", NAME="zap/ctl", OWNER="asterisk", GROUP="asterisk", MODE="0660" KERNEL="zaptimer", NAME="zap/timer", OWNER="asterisk", GROUP="asterisk", MODE="0660" KERNEL="zapchannel", NAME="zap/channel", OWNER="asterisk", GROUP="asterisk", MODE="0660" KERNEL="zappseudo", NAME="zap/pseudo", OWNER="asterisk", GROUP="asterisk", MODE="0660" KERNEL="zap[0-9]*", NAME="zap/%n", OWNER="asterisk", GROUP="asterisk", MODE="0660" KERNEL="tty9", OWNER="asterisk" That setting is the same in FC5t2, but the /etc/udev/udev.conf in FC5t2 only contains: udev_log="err" While in FC4 it contains: udev_root="/dev" udev_db="/dev/.udevdb" udev_rules="/etc/udev/rules.d" udev_log="err" I am not sure if I can use the same setting in FC5t2. Do you have any suggestion? Thanks a lot in advance for your help. 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URL: From buildsys at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 07:48:26 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 02:48:26 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060213 changes 2/2 Message-ID: <200602130748.k1D7mQKs019059@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> mysql-5.0.18-2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.0.18-2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Thu Feb 09 2006 Tom Lane 5.0.18-2 - err-log option has been renamed to log-error, fix my.cnf and initscript * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.0.18-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes mysql-connector-odbc-3.51.12-1.2.1 ---------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.51.12-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) mysqlclient10-3.23.58-9.2 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.23.58-9.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) mysqlclient14-4.1.14-4.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.1.14-4.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nano-1.3.8-1.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3.8-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nasm-0.98.39-3.2.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.98.39-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nautilus-2.13.90-2.2 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.90-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.90-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Mon Feb 06 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.90-2 - Avoid delays in rendering the background nautilus-cd-burner-2.13.90-1.2 ------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.90-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nautilus-sendto-0.4-7.2 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.4-7.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nc-1.84-3.2 ----------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.84-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.84-3.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Wed Jan 25 2006 Radek Vokal 1.84-3 - warnings cleaned-up, compile with -Werror ncompress-4.2.4-43.2.1 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.2.4-43.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) ncpfs-2.2.6-1.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.2.6-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) ncurses-5.5-18.2 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.5-18.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) neon-0.25.5-1.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.25.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) net-snmp-5.3-4.2 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.3-4.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) net-tools-1.60-62.1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.60-62.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Radek Vok??l - 1.60-62 - new option for netstat - -T stops trimming remote and local addresses (#176465) netatalk-4:2.0.3-4.2.1 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4:2.0.3-4.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) netdump-0.7.14-1.2.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.7.14-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) netpbm-10.31-3.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 10.31-3.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jindrich Novy 10.31-3 - fix segfault caused by usage of uninitialized variables while parsing cmdline arguments in pnmtopng (#179645) - add validity check for date/time in pnmtopng - fix unchecked sscanf reads newt-0.52.2-5.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.52.2-5.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.52.2-5.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Tue Jan 17 2006 Petr Rockai - 0.52.2-5 - Fix a crash in checkboxtree.c where pressing pgup/pgdown on a checkboxtree with less items than its height would cause segmentation violation. Consult BR 165347. newt-perl-1.08-9.2.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.08-9.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nfs-utils-1.0.8.rc2-4.FC5.2 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.8.rc2-4.FC5.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.8.rc2-4.FC5.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Jan 20 2006 Steve Dickson 1.0.8.rc2-4.FC5 - Added new libnfsidmap call, nfs4_set_debug(), to rpc.idmapd which turns on debugging in the libarary. nfs-utils-lib-1.0.8-3.1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.8-3.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nhpf-1.42-9.2.1 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.42-9.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nkf-2.05-1.2.1 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.05-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nmap-2:4.00-1.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2:4.00-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) notify-daemon-0.3.1-7.1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.3.1-7.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nspr-4.6.1-2.2 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.6.1-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nss-3.11-3.2 ------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.11-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nss_db-2.2-34.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.2-34.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nss_ldap-248-2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 248-2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) ntp-4.2.0.a.20050816-10.2.1 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.2.0.a.20050816-10.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) numactl-0.6.4-1.26.2 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.6.4-1.25.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nut-2.0.2-6.2 ------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.0.2-6.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) oaf-0.6.10-12.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.6.10-12.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) opal-2.1-1.2 ------------ open-1.4-24.2.1 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.4-24.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.4-24.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt openhpi-2.2.1-4.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.2.1-4.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) openjade-1.3.2-23.2 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3.2-23.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) openldap-2.3.19-3.1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.3.19-3.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) openmotif-2.3.0-0.1.9.2 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.3.0-0.1.9.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) openobex-1.0.1-4.2.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-4.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-4.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt openobex-apps-1.0.0-8.2.1 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0-8.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) openoffice.org-1:2.0.1.1-11.2.2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:2.0.1.1-11.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) opensm-1.0-0.4265.1.FC5.2.1 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0-0.4265.1.FC5.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) opensp-1.5.2-1.2 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.5.2-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) openssh-4.3p1-2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.3p1-2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) openssl-0.9.8a-5.2 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.9.8a-5.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) openssl097a-0.9.7a-4.2.1 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.9.7a-4.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) openswan-2.4.4-1.1.2.1 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.4.4-1.1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) oprofile-0.9.1-8.1.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.9.1-8.1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Will Cohen - Complete path for which and dirname in opcontrol. pam-0.99.3.0-1.2 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.99.3.0-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.99.3.0-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Feb 03 2006 Tomas Mraz 0.99.3.0-1 - new upstream version - updated db4 to 4.3.29 - added module pam_tally2 with auditing support - added manual pages for system-auth and config-util (#179584) pam_ccreds-3-3.2 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pam_passwdqc-1.0.2-1.2.1 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.2-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pam_smb-1.1.7-7.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.1.7-7.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pango-1.11.5-1 -------------- * Sat Feb 11 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.11.5-1 - Update to 1.11.5 * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.11.4-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) parted-1.6.25-6.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.6.25-6.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) passwd-0.71-3.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.71-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) patch-2.5.4-29.2.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.5.4-29.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.5.4-29.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt patchutils-0.2.31-2.2.1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.2.31-2.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pax-3.4-1.2.1 ------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.4-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pciutils-2.2.1-1.2 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.2.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pcmciautils-011-1.2 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 011-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pcre-6.3-1.2.1 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 6.3-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-4:5.8.8-2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4:5.8.8-2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4:5.8.8-2 - Rebuild again - Debian released 5.8.8 patches today; apply only relevant difference: 03_fix_net_nntp : fix precedence in Net::NNTP::article from Brendan O'Dea * Mon Feb 06 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4:5.8.8-1.2 - Rebuild with new gcc, glibc, and glibc-kernheaders perl-BSD-Resource-1.24-3.2.2 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.24-3.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-Bit-Vector-6.4-2.2.2 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 6.4-2.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-Compress-Zlib-1.41-1.2.2 ----------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.41-1.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-Crypt-SSLeay-0.51-9.2.2 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.51-9.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-DBD-MySQL-3.0002-2.2.2 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.0002-2.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-DBD-Pg-1.43-2.2.2 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.43-2.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-DBI-1.50-2.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.50-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-Date-Calc-5.4-1.2.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.4-1.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-Digest-SHA1-2.11-1.2 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.11-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-HTML-Parser-3.48-1.1.2 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.48-1.1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-Net-DNS-0.55-1.1.2 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.55-1.1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-PDL-2.4.2-2.fc5.1.2.2 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.4.2-2.fc5.1.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-String-CRC32-1.3-3.FC5.2 ----------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3-3.FC5.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-TermReadKey-2.30-1.2.2 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.30-1.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-XML-LibXML-1.58-2.2.2 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.58-2.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-XML-LibXML-Common-0.13-8.2.1 --------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.13-8.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) perl-XML-Parser-2.34-6.1.2.2 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.34-6.1.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) php-5.1.2-4.3 ------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.1.2-4.3 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.1.2-4.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Tue Jan 31 2006 Joe Orton 5.1.2-4 - rebuild for new libc-client soname pilot-link-1:0.12.0-0.pre4.5.2.1 -------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:0.12.0-0.pre4.5.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pinfo-0.6.8-11.2.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.6.8-11.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pkgconfig-1:0.20-2.2.1 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:0.20-2.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) planner-0.13-4.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.13-4.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pm-utils-0.09-1.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.09-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pnm2ppa-1:1.04-13.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.04-13.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) policycoreutils-1.29.20-2.1 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.29.20-2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Dan Walsh 1.29.20-2 - Fix auditing to semanage - Change genhomedircon to use new prefix interface in libselinux poppler-0.5.0-4.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.5.0-4.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) portmap-4.0-65.2.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.0-65.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) postfix-2:2.2.8-1.2 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2:2.2.8-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) postgresql-odbc-08.01.0200-1.2 ------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 08.01.0200-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) ppc64-utils-0.9-12.2.1 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.9-12.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) ppp-2.4.3-6.2.1 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.4.3-6.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) privoxy-3.0.3-9.2.1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.0.3-9.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) procinfo-18-18.2.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 18-18.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) procmail-3.22-16.2.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.22-16.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) procps-3.2.6-3.2 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.2.6-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) psacct-6.3.2-38.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 6.3.2-38.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) psmisc-21.8-1.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 21.8-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pstack-1.2-7.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2-7.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) psutils-1.17-25.2.1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.17-25.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pump-0.8.24-1.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.8.24-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pvm-3.4.5-6.7.1 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.4.5-6.7.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pwlib-1.9.2-1.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.9.2-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pyOpenSSL-0.6-1.p24.7.2.1 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.6-1.p24.7.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pycairo-1.0.2-1.2.1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.2-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pyorbit-2.0.1-4.2.1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.0.1-4.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) pyparted-1.6.10-1.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.6.10-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) python-2.4.2-3.2.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.4.2-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Mihai Ibanescu - 2.4.3-3.2 - rebuilt for newer tix * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.4.2-3.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes python-elementtree-1.2.6-4.2.1 ------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.6-4.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) python-ldap-0:2.0.6-5.2.1 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:2.0.6-5.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) python-numeric-23.7-2.2.1 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 23.7-2.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) python-pyblock-0.13-1.1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.13-1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) python-sqlite-1.1.7-1.2 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.1.7-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) qt-1:3.3.5-12.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:3.3.5-12.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) quagga-0:0.98.5-3.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:0.98.5-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) quota-1:3.13-1.2.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:3.13-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) radvd-0.9.1-1.1.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.9.1-1.1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rarpd-ss981107-22.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - ss981107-22.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rcs-5.7-29.2.1 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.7-29.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rdate-1.4-4.2.1 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.4-4.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rdesktop-1.4.1-3.2.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.4.1-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rdist-1:6.1.5-42.2.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:6.1.5-42.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) readahead-1:1.2-1.25.2 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.2-1.24.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.2-1.23.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Jan 13 2006 Karel Zak - check & cleanup list of files by readahead-gen script readline-5.0-3.2.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.0-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) redhat-artwork-0.238-1.1 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.238-1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) redhat-lsb-3.0-9.2 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.0-9.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) regexp-0:1.3-2jpp_6fc --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:1.3-2jpp_6fc - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rhdb-utils-8.1.1-1.2.1 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 8.1.1-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rhgb-0.16.2-21.2 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.16.2-21.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rhn-applet-2.1.17-4.2.1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.1.17-4.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rhpl-0.181-2.1 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.181-2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rhythmbox-0.9.3.1-1.2 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.9.3.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rp-pppoe-3.5-30.2.1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.5-30.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rpm-4.4.2-15.2 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.4.2-15.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rsh-0.17-34.1 ------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.17-34.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rsync-2.6.6-2.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.6.6-2.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) ruby-1.8.4-3.2 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.8.4-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rusers-0.17-45.2.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.17-45.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rwall-0.17-25.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.17-25.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) rwho-0.17-25.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.17-25.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) samba-0:3.0.20b-2.1.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:3.0.20b-2.1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) sane-backends-1.0.17-3.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.17-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) sane-frontends-1.0.14-1.2.1 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.14-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) scim-1.4.4-4.1 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.4.4-4.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jens Petersen - 1.4.4-4 - parse the libstdc++so7 datestamp from the wrapper script * Thu Feb 09 2006 Jens Petersen - 1.4.4-3 - build conditionally with libstdc++so7 preview to workround libstdc++ weak symbol version conflicts for c++ gtk apps built with older gcc (Benjamin Kosnik, #166041) - add with_libstdc_preview switch and tweak libtool to link against newer lib - do not change scim_binary_version in scim.pc-versioned-moduledir-179706.patch - set qtimm to xim for now scim-anthy-0.9.0-2.fc5.1 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.9.0-2.fc5.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Thu Feb 09 2006 Jens Petersen - list .so modules explicitly in filelist scim-chewing-0.2.1-5.1 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.2.1-5.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) scim-hangul-0.2.1-3.fc5.1 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.2.1-3.fc5.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) scim-m17n-0.2.0-1 ----------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Jens Petersen - 0.2.0-1 - update to 0.2.0 release * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.1.4-3.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) scim-pinyin-0.5.91-4.1 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.5.91-4.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) scim-qtimm-0.9.4-2.1.1 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.9.4-2.1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) scim-tables-0.5.6-2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.5.6-2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) screen-4.0.2-11.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.0.2-11.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) scrollkeeper-0.3.14-5.2.1 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.3.14-5.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) sed-4.1.5-1.2 ------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.1.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) selinux-policy-2.2.13-1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.13-1 - Add semodule policy sendmail-8.13.5-2.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 8.13.5-2.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) setarch-1.8-1.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.8-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) setools-2.3-1.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.3-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) setserial-2.17-19.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.17-19.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) setuptool-1.18.1-1.2 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.18.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) sg3_utils-1.19-1.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.19-1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Phil Knirsch - 1.19-1 - Update to sg3_utils-1.19. - Fixed rebuild problem on 64bit archs. * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.17-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes shadow-utils-2:4.0.14-1.2 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2:4.0.14-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) shared-mime-info-0.16.cvs20060212-1 ----------------------------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.16.cvs20060212-1 - Newer CVS snapshot sharutils-4.6.1-1.2 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.6.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) sip-4.3.1-1.2.1 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.3.1-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) slang-2.0.5-5.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.0.5-5.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) slrn-0.9.8.1pl1-1.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.9.8.1pl1-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) smartmontools-1:5.33-4.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:5.33-4.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) sound-juicer-2.13.5-1 --------------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.5-1 - Update to 2.13.5 * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.4-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) sox-12.17.9-1.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 12.17.9-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) spamassassin-3.1.0-5.fc5.2 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.1.0-5.fc5.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) speex-1.0.5-1.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.5-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) sqlite-3.3.3-1.2 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.3.3-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) squashfs-tools-2.2r2-2.2.1 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.2r2-2.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) squid-7:2.5.STABLE12-5.1 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 7:2.5.STABLE12-5.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Martin Stransky - 7:2.5.STABLE12-5 - new upstream patches star-1.5a69-1.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.5a69-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.5a69-1.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt stardict-2.4.5-2.2 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.4.5-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) startup-notification-0.8-3.2.1 ------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.8-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) statserial-1.1-38.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.1-38.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) strace-4.5.14-1.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.5.14-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) struts-0:1.2.4-2jpp_7fc ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:1.2.4-2jpp_7fc - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) stunnel-4.14-3.2 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.14-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) subversion-1.3.0-4.2 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3.0-4.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) sudo-1.6.8p12-4.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.6.8p12-4.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) swig-1.3.24-2.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3.24-2.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) symlinks-1.2-24.2.1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2-24.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) synaptics-0:0.14.4-4.2.1 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:0.14.4-4.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) sysfsutils-1.3.0-1.2.1 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3.0-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) sysklogd-1.4.1-34.2 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.4.1-34.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) sysstat-6.0.1-3.2.1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 6.0.1-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) system-config-lvm-1.0.13-1.0 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Stanko Kupcevic 1.0.13-1.0 - Fix failure to display all unused space system-config-printer-0.6.150-1.2 --------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.6.150-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) system-config-securitylevel-1.6.15-1.1 -------------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.6.15-1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) systemtap-0.5.4-2.2 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.5.4-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) talk-0.17-29.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.17-29.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tanukiwrapper-0:3.1.1-4jpp_6fc ------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:3.1.1-4jpp_6fc - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tar-1.15.1-12.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.15.1-12.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tcl-8.4.12-3.2 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 8.4.12-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 8.4.12-3.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Thu Feb 02 2006 David Cantrell - 8.4.12-3 - Patched syntax errors in configure and tcl.m4 so it works with bash tclx-8.4.0-1.2 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 8.4.0-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tcp_wrappers-7.6-40.2 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 7.6-40.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tcpdump-14:3.9.4-2.2 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 14:3.9.4-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tcsh-6.14-5.2.1 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 6.14-5.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) telnet-1:0.17-35.2.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:0.17-35.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tetex-3.0-16.2 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.0-16.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) texinfo-4.8-9.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.8-9.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tftp-0.41-1.2.1 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.41-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) thunderbird-0:1.5-3 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Christopher Aillon - 1.5-3 - Add dumpstack.patch - Improve the langpack install stuff * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.5-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes time-1.7-27.2.1 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.7-27.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) timidity++-2.13.2-1.2.1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.2-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tix-1:8.4.0-3.1 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:8.4.0-3.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Fri Feb 10 2006 David Cantrell - 1:8.4.0-3 - Added missing SONAME to libTix8.4.so tk-8.4.12-1.2 ------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 8.4.12-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tmpwatch-2.9.6-1.2.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.9.6-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tn5250-0.17.3-1.2.1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.17.3-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tog-pegasus-2:2.5-6.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2:2.5-6.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tomcat5-0:5.0.30-8jpp_11fc -------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:5.0.30-8jpp_10fc - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:5.0.30-8jpp_9fc.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Wed Feb 01 2006 Rafael Schloming - 0:5.0.30-8jpp_9fc - Fixed XSS vulnerabilities in the example apps. totem-1.3.90-2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3.90-2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) traceroute-2:1.0.4-1.2 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2:1.0.4-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) transfig-1:3.2.4-13.2 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:3.2.4-13.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tree-1.5.0-3.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.5.0-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tsclient-0.140-1.2.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.140-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) ttcp-1.12-13.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.12-13.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) ttmkfdir-3.0.9-19.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.0.9-19.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tux-3.2.18-4.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.2.18-4.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) tvtime-1.0.1-3.2 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) udev-084-1.1 ------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 084-1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) umb-scheme-3.2-39.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.2-39.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) units-1.85-1.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.85-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) unix2dos-2.2-26.2.1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.2-26.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) unixODBC-2.2.11-6.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.2.11-6.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) unzip-5.52-2.2 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.52-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) up2date-4.4.23-4.2.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.4.23-4.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) usbutils-0.71-1.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.71-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) usermode-1.85-2.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.85-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) utempter-0.5.5-7.2.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.5.5-7.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) util-linux-2.13-0.15.1 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13-0.15.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) uucp-1.07-11.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.07-11.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) valgrind-1:3.1.0-1.2 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:3.1.0-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) vconfig-1.9-1.1 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.9-1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Phil Knirsch - 1.9-1 - Updated to vconfig-1.9 vim-1:6.4.006-1.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:6.4.006-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) vino-2.13.5-2.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.5-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) vixie-cron-4:4.1-51.FC5.1 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4:4.1-51.FC5.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) vlock-1.3-22.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3-22.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) vnc-4.1.1-35.1 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.1.1-35.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) vorbis-tools-1:1.1.1-1.2.1 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.1.1-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) vsftpd-2.0.4-1.2 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.0.4-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) vte-0.11.18-1.fc5.1 ------------------- * Sat Feb 11 2006 Matthias Clasen 0.11.18-1 - Update to 0.11.18 * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.11.17-1.fc5.1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) w3m-0.5.1-12.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.5.1-12.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) webalizer-2.01_10-29.2.1 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.01_10-29.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) wget-1.10.2-3.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.10.2-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) which-2.16-6.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.16-6.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) wireless-tools-1:28-0.pre13.5.1 ------------------------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Christopher Aillon - 1:28-0.pre13.5.1 - Update to 28 pre13 wordtrans-1.1pre13-12.2.1 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.1pre13-12.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) wpa_supplicant-0.5.1-3 ---------------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Dan Williams - 0.5.1-3 - Documentation cleanup (Terje Rosten ) * Sun Feb 12 2006 Dan Williams - 0.5.1-2 - Move initscript to /etc/rc.d/init.d * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.5.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) wvdial-1.54.0-5.2.2 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.54.0-5.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xalan-j2-0:2.6.0-3jpp_8fc ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:2.6.0-3jpp_8fc - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xcdroast-0.98a15-12.2.1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.98a15-12.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xdelta-1.1.3-17.2.1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.1.3-17.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xerces-j2-0:2.6.2-6jpp_5fc -------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:2.6.2-6jpp_5fc - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xferstats-2.16-13.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.16-13.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xfig-3.2.4-17.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.2.4-17.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xfsprogs-2.7.3-1.2.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.7.3-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xinetd-2:2.3.13-6.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2:2.3.13-6.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xml-commons-0:1.0-0.b2.7jpp_5fc ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:1.0-0.b2.7jpp_5fc - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xmlrpc-0:2.0.1-1jpp_4fc ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:2.0.1-1jpp_4fc - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xmlsec1-1.2.9-4.2 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.9-4.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xmlto-0.0.18-9.2.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.0.18-9.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-apps-1.0.1-1.2 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-acecad-1.0.0.5-1.2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-aiptek-1.0.0.5-1.2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.7.3-3.2 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 6.5.7.3-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-calcomp-1.0.0.5-1.2 -------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-citron-2.1.1.5-1.2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.1.1.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-digitaledge-1.0.1.3-1.2 ------------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1.3-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-dmc-1.0.0.5-1.2 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-dummy-0.1.0.5-1.2 ------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.1.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-dynapro-1.0.0.5-1.2 -------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-elo2300-1.0.0.5-1.2 -------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-elographics-1.0.0.5-1.2 ------------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-evdev-1.0.0.5-1.2 ------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-0.1.0.5-1.2 ------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.1.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-fpit-1.0.0.5-1.2 ----------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-hyperpen-1.0.0.5-1.2 --------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-jamstudio-1.0.0.5-1.2 ---------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-joystick-1.0.0.5-1.2 --------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.0.1.3-1.2 --------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1.3-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-magellan-1.0.0.5-1.2 --------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-magictouch-1.0.0.5-1.2 ----------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-mga-1.2.1.3-1.2 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.1.3-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-microtouch-1.0.0.5-1.2 ----------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-mouse-1.0.3.1-1.2 ------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.3.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-mutouch-1.0.0.5-1.2 -------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-nv-1.0.1.5-3.1 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1.5-3.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-palmax-1.0.0.5-1.2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-penmount-1.0.0.5-1.2 --------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-s3-0.3.5.5-1.2 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.3.5.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.3.5.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 0.3.5.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-s3 to version 0.3.5.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-s3virge-1.8.6.5-1.2 -------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.8.6.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-savage-2.0.2.3-1.2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.0.2.3-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-sis-0.8.1.3-1.2 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.8.1.3-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-sisusb-0.7.1.3-1.2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.7.1.3-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-spaceorb-1.0.0.5-1.2 --------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-summa-1.0.0.5-1.2 ------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-tdfx-1.1.1.3-1.3 ----------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.1.1.3-1.3 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-tek4957-1.0.0.1-1.2 -------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-trident-1.0.1.2-1.2 -------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1.2-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-ur98-1.0.0.5-1.2 ----------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-vesa-1.0.1.3-1.2 ----------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1.3-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-vga-4.0.0.5-1.2 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-void-1.0.0.5-1.2 ----------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-drv-voodoo-1.0.0.5-1.2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-font-utils-1:1.0.1-1.2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-resutils-1.0.1-1.2 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-server-1.0.1-6.1 ------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-6.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-server-utils-1.0.1-1.2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-twm-1:1.0.1-1.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-util-macros-1.0.1-1.2 ------------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-utils-1.0.1-1.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-xauth-1:1.0.1-1.2 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-xbitmaps-1.0.1-1.2 --------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-xdm-1:1.0.1-1.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-xfs-1:1.0.1-2.1 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.0.1-2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-xfwp-1.0.1-1.2 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.1-1.2 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-xkb-utils-1.0.1-1.2 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-xsm-1.0.1-1.2 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xorg-x11-xtrans-devel-1.0.0-3.2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.0-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xpdf-1:3.01-12.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:3.01-12.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Than Ngo 3.01-12 - apply patch to fix buffer overflow issue in the xpdf codebase when handling splash images CVE-2006-0301 (#179423) xrestop-0.2-6.2.1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.2-6.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xsane-0.99-2.2 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.99-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xscreensaver-1:4.24-1.1 ----------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:4.24-1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xsri-1:2.1.0-9.2.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:2.1.0-9.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xterm-208-1.2 ------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 208-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) yaboot-1.3.13-0.17.1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.3.13-0.17.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) yelp-2.13.5-2 ------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.5-2 - Turn on info and man support for test3 * Sun Feb 12 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.5-1 - Update to 2.13.5 * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.4-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) yp-tools-2.8-8.2.1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.8-8.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) ypbind-3:1.17.2-5.2.1 --------------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3:1.17.2-5.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) ypserv-2.13-10.2 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13-10.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) yum-2.5.1-5 ----------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Paul Nasrat - 2.5.1-5 - Merge patches from head for group plugin support and conditionals zip-2.31-1.2.1 -------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.31-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) zisofs-tools-1.0.6-3.2.1 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.6-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) zlib-1.2.3-1.2.1 ---------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.3-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) zsh-4.2.5-1.2.2 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.2.5-1.2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.2.5-1.2.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Wed Jan 04 2006 Jesse Keating 0 4.2.5-1.2 - rebuilt again Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 perl-suidperl - 4:5.8.8-2.1.i386 requires perl = 4:5.8.8-2 Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- perl-suidperl - 4:5.8.8-2.1.ia64 requires perl = 4:5.8.8-2 rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- ccs-devel - 1.0.2-3.2.1.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.2-3.2.1 gulm - 1.0.0-2.ppc requires ccs perl-suidperl - 4:5.8.8-2.1.ppc requires perl = 4:5.8.8-2 Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 magma-plugins - 1.0.3-1.FC5.ppc64 requires libgulm.so.1()(64bit) perl-suidperl - 4:5.8.8-2.1.ppc64 requires perl = 4:5.8.8-2 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- perl-suidperl - 4:5.8.8-2.1.s390 requires perl = 4:5.8.8-2 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- perl-suidperl - 4:5.8.8-2.1.s390x requires perl = 4:5.8.8-2 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 perl-suidperl - 4:5.8.8-2.1.x86_64 requires perl = 4:5.8.8-2 From jkeating at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 07:53:11 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:53:11 -0800 Subject: rawhide report: 20060213 changes 2/2 In-Reply-To: <200602130748.k1D7mQKs019059@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602130748.k1D7mQKs019059@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139817191.31644.55.camel@ender> On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 02:48 -0500, Build System wrote: > Hrm. So the 1/2 message was still too big for mailman to accept. I'm going to have to split it up even more. Sorry for the uglyness. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From aryanto.rachmad at chello.at Mon Feb 13 07:54:18 2006 From: aryanto.rachmad at chello.at (Aryanto Rachmad) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 08:54:18 +0100 Subject: udev on FC5t2 References: <118701c6306a$b2d8b110$0e66970a@ds.mot.com> <1139816365.2997.14.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <11c301c63072$b15a2dc0$0e66970a@ds.mot.com> Thanks a lot Arjan, I totally agree with you, but I have very little experience in coding, especially in Linux world, so I am not sure how to fix that. I think the easiest way is to put in udev settings for zaptel device as I did in FC4. Cheers, Anto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arjan van de Ven" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:39 AM Subject: Re: udev on FC5t2 > > > same setting in FC5t2. > > > > Do you have any suggestion? > > > > the best approach will be to fix the driver for this to use the driver > model in the kernel, at which point this all will just automatically > work without needing udev specific hacks... > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From jkeating at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 08:00:29 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 00:00:29 -0800 Subject: rawhide report: 20060213 changes 2/2 In-Reply-To: <1139817191.31644.55.camel@ender> References: <200602130748.k1D7mQKs019059@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139817191.31644.55.camel@ender> Message-ID: <1139817630.31644.57.camel@ender> On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 23:53 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > > Hrm. So the 1/2 message was still too big for mailman to accept. I'm > going to have to split it up even more. Sorry for the uglyness. > Actually no I won't. The list admin was able to push the larger email through. Enjoy! -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From talbotscott at cox.net Mon Feb 13 08:18:46 2006 From: talbotscott at cox.net (oldman) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 00:18:46 -0800 Subject: rawhide report: 20060213 changes 2/2 In-Reply-To: <1139817630.31644.57.camel@ender> References: <200602130748.k1D7mQKs019059@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139817191.31644.55.camel@ender> <1139817630.31644.57.camel@ender> Message-ID: <43F040E6.5030501@cox.net> Jesse Keating wrote: >On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 23:53 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > > >>Hrm. So the 1/2 message was still too big for mailman to accept. I'm >>going to have to split it up even more. Sorry for the uglyness. >> >> >> > >Actually no I won't. The list admin was able to push the larger email >through. > >Enjoy! > > > Hmm... I didn't see a part 1, But GMane got it! Thanks Jesse Scott From mag at mag.cx Mon Feb 13 08:29:53 2006 From: mag at mag.cx (Christian Magnusson) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:29:53 +0100 Subject: sky2 driver Message-ID: <1139819393.14427.8.camel@magpc.runaware.lan> I have noticed some glitches in the sky2 network driver... It has stopped twice without much load at all, and the second time I had a chance to look at dmesg and read the error messages. NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out sky2 eth0: tx timeout NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out sky2 transmit interrupt missed? recovered NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out sky2 eth0: tx timeout NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out sky2 transmit interrupt missed? recovered ..... NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out sky2 eth0: tx timeout (network is dead, but mii-tool show link ok) After 20-30 messages like this, the driver doesn't work anymore.... and I have to reload the module to make the network traffic start again. I'm running kernel 2.6.15-1.1917_FC5 and the card is a: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 19) 02:00.0 0200: 11ab:4362 (rev 19) Are there more people how has seen this problem? /Christian From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Feb 13 08:41:05 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:41:05 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060213 changes 2/2 In-Reply-To: <43F040E6.5030501@cox.net> References: <200602130748.k1D7mQKs019059@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139817191.31644.55.camel@ender> <1139817630.31644.57.camel@ender> <43F040E6.5030501@cox.net> Message-ID: <43F04621.9090403@gmx.de> On 13.02.2006 09:18, oldman wrote: > Hmm... I didn't see a part 1, But GMane got it! Thanks Jesse thanks, http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/36289 "bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64)" sorry, what is the meaning of "double-long" in this context ? -- shrek-m From jakub at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 08:49:47 2006 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 03:49:47 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060213 changes 2/2 In-Reply-To: <43F04621.9090403@gmx.de> References: <200602130748.k1D7mQKs019059@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1139817191.31644.55.camel@ender> <1139817630.31644.57.camel@ender> <43F040E6.5030501@cox.net> <43F04621.9090403@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20060213084947.GQ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:41:05AM +0100, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > On 13.02.2006 09:18, oldman wrote: > > >Hmm... I didn't see a part 1, But GMane got it! Thanks Jesse > > thanks, > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/36289 > > "bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64)" > > sorry, what is the meaning of "double-long" in this context ? Please read that as: "bump again to make sure long double is 128-bit on ppc32" There has been a bug in gcc <= 4.1.0-0.23, where although -mlong-double-128 was default for ppc64/s390/s390x/alpha/sparc and for ppc32 in gcc{-c++} packages, if gcc-ppc32 and/or gcc-c++-ppc32 packages were installed, -mlong-double-64 was the default for 32-bit code (missing --with-long-double-128 configure option in the configure command for the gcc-*ppc32 compiler). Jakub From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl Mon Feb 13 09:18:28 2006 From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:18:28 +0100 Subject: Widescreen 1440x900 resolution In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602101939sea0e22cneaa4055ff053bdb5@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0602032158q53512ccarc7682ac3b2c5db84@mail.gmail.com> <20060206140624.GC1782@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> <8767947e0602101939sea0e22cneaa4055ff053bdb5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060213091828.GA31275@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 09:39:28PM -0600, Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 2/6/06, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > man gtf next time ;) > > Thanks. I knew things like this existed. I've seen a similar thing > on a website, but it had a ton of different obscure parameters. This > is really nice, just takes horizontal, vertical, and refresh rate. I > was thinking. With something like this, why couldn't > system-config-display use this to automatically generate a modeline > for modes not natively supported by X? You need to take the monitor's and the card's maximum pixel clock into account, too, and sometimes they can't be detected reliably. Even so, I believe this is a great idea if someone can implement it. Regards, -- Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling Warsaw University | http://www.icm.edu.pl | tel. +48 (22) 5540810 From monty19 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 13 11:43:30 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:43:30 +0900 Subject: cannot restart xen domain References: <1139764093.12442.13.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: No worries. I know xen is very new, and therefore I am very patient and considerate of all the work that is being and needs to be done. I am not an expert developer by any stretch afterall, and being that I cannot fix the problems myself, I figure my best contribution is to test, troubleshoot where I can, politely report all bugs in as detailed a manner as possible, and wait patiently for the pro's to do their work. :) Every bug I have ever reported with Fedora/RedHat operating systems have received a response and been addressed in a timely manner. I have no doubt the same will be true for all future ones as well. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Katz" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:08 AM Subject: Re: cannot restart xen domain > On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 11:29 +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: >> # xm create -c fc5t2xen >> Using config file "/etc/xen/fc5t2xen". >> Error: [Errno 17] File exists > > Remove /var/lib/xen/xenbl and you should be good to go. I really should > work on making that code a little bit more resilient :-/ > > Jeremy > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From bilhega at gruposertanejo.com.br Mon Feb 13 13:08:19 2006 From: bilhega at gruposertanejo.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Carlos_Bilhega_Jr.?=) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:08:19 -0300 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ananconda_doesn=B4t_start_on_ppc?= In-Reply-To: <20060213091828.GA31275@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> Message-ID: <20060213122020.F285C24181@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> Hi, all * Hardware : IBM eServer pSeries 620 Model 6F1 PowerPC 64bits 5 SCSI disks 3 GB RAM With the boot.iso (12-FEB-06), starting na ftp install in text mode with the host download.fedora.redhat.com and /pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/ I?m getting this error when starting anaconda : running ananconda, the Fedora Core system installer - please wait... install exited abnormally sending termination signals...done sending Kill signals...done disabling swap... unmounting filesystems... /mnt/runtime done disabling /dev/loop0 /proc done /dev/pts done /sys done /tmp/ramfs done /selinux done you may safely reboot your system. Jos? Carlos From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Mon Feb 13 12:03:10 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060213 changes 2/2 References: <200602130748.k1D7mQKs019059@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Transaction Summary ============================================================================= Install 7 Package(s) Update 1243 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 1.5 G Is this ok [y/N]: OK, do I dare? Has anyone tried this massive update? Any good/bad reports? I saw a couple reports over the weekend of failures to start X. Not sure I want to try that experiment. From netwiz at crc.id.au Mon Feb 13 12:31:40 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:31:40 +1100 (EST) Subject: rawhide report: 20060213 changes 2/2 In-Reply-To: References: <200602130748.k1D7mQKs019059@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <51553.203.56.246.92.1139833900.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> On Mon, February 13, 2006 11:03 pm, Neal Becker wrote: > Transaction Summary > ============================================================================= > Install 7 Package(s) > Update 1243 Package(s) > Remove 0 Package(s) > Total download size: 1.5 G > Is this ok [y/N]: Woah! > OK, do I dare? Sure - it is a development machine after all, right? :) > Has anyone tried this massive update? Any good/bad reports? It doesn't look like these updates have hit my local mirror (mirror.optus.net.au) yet - as it's not showing me any updates... but I'm game when it does :) > I saw a couple reports over the weekend of failures to start X. Not sure > I want to try that experiment. Mine still works - and that's before any updates today. So I'd say it may not be related. You never know though - that's what makes the devel stuff so fun :) -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From wowbagger at sktc.net Mon Feb 13 12:43:42 2006 From: wowbagger at sktc.net (David D. Hagood) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 06:43:42 -0600 Subject: Shutting Beagle et. al. up Message-ID: <43F07EFE.907@sktc.net> I just did a fresh install of FC5T2 and now I keep getting mails from cron about the output from Beagle running against the log files. I'd like to ask developers to follow the mantra of "Don't bother root with unimportant stuff" - a process should NOT mail root about routine stuff, otherwise root gets inundated with so many messages the important ones get lost in the noise. I couldn't find any other way to shut beagle up than redirecting the cron job's output to /dev/null - which means now that if it really DOES have something to tell me I will not see it. It would be really nice if there were a nice simple GUI for managing the messages to root - something that could allow programs to plug in to it and be configured, so that root could tell logwatch, beagle, and so on "don't bother me about these things - tell me when something IMPORTANT happens." From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Feb 13 12:45:02 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:45:02 +0100 Subject: Ananconda =?iso-8859-1?q?doesn=B4t_start_on_ppc?= In-Reply-To: <20060213122020.F285C24181@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> References: <20060213122020.F285C24181@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> Message-ID: <43F07F4E.9000404@gmx.de> On 13.02.2006 14:08, Jos? Carlos Bilhega Jr. wrote: >* Hardware : IBM eServer pSeries 620 Model 6F1 > PowerPC 64bits > 5 SCSI disks > 3 GB RAM > > With the boot.iso (12-FEB-06), starting na ftp install in text mode >with the host download.fedora.redhat.com and >/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/ I?m getting this error when starting >anaconda : > >running ananconda, the Fedora Core system installer - please wait... >install exited abnormally >sending termination signals...done >sending Kill signals...done >disabling swap... >unmounting filesystems... > /mnt/runtime done > disabling /dev/loop0 > /proc done > /dev/pts done > /sys done > /tmp/ramfs done > /selinux done > >you may safely reboot your system. > i had this problem a while back on ppc64 but i do not know if it was the boot.iso, rescuecd, ... is it ok with the rescuecd.iso ? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/isos/rawhide-TEST-ppc-rescuecd.iso fyi i had some problems with the ftp inst via "download.fedora.redhat.com" later in the installation "corrupted or missing redhat-menus-*noarch" or similiar. on a second linux box i got " to many connections from your ip" or similiar i closed mozilla on the second linux box while installation and used a http inst without problems. i personaly would avoid ftp inst via "download.fedora.redhat.com" -- shrek-m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 13 12:51:34 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:21:34 +0530 Subject: Shutting Beagle et. al. up In-Reply-To: <43F07EFE.907@sktc.net> References: <43F07EFE.907@sktc.net> Message-ID: <43F080D6.300@fedoraproject.org> David D. Hagood wrote: > I just did a fresh install of FC5T2 and now I keep getting mails from > cron about the output from Beagle running against the log files. > > I'd like to ask developers to follow the mantra of "Don't bother root > with unimportant stuff" - a process should NOT mail root about routine > stuff, otherwise root gets inundated with so many messages the > important ones get lost in the noise. > Have you updated your system after installing FC5test2?. If you are still getting messages after updates file a bug report upstream in http://bugzilla.gnome.org. > I couldn't find any other way to shut beagle up than redirecting the > cron job's output to /dev/null - which means now that if it really > DOES have something to tell me I will not see it. > > It would be really nice if there were a nice simple GUI for managing > the messages to root - something that could allow programs to plug in > to it and be configured, so that root could tell logwatch, beagle, and > so on "don't bother me about these things - tell me when something > IMPORTANT happens." > Its the other way around usually. Programs plug into sysklogd and sysklogd is configurable. Logwatch messages are usually more important to root than beagle is. You might want to look at logwatch man page for the level of details if you want from it. If you need a GUI logviewer take a look at gnome-system-log in gnome-utils package. system-config-logviewer from FC3 still works if someone is interested in maintaining it in Fedora Extras. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From wowbagger at sktc.net Mon Feb 13 13:02:43 2006 From: wowbagger at sktc.net (David D. Hagood) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 07:02:43 -0600 Subject: Shutting Beagle et. al. up In-Reply-To: <43F080D6.300@fedoraproject.org> References: <43F07EFE.907@sktc.net> <43F080D6.300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43F08373.5030408@sktc.net> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > David D. Hagood wrote: > > > Have you updated your system after installing FC5test2?. If you are > still getting messages after updates file a bug report upstream in > http://bugzilla.gnome.org. > Yes I did update, and I will file a bug report. > the level of details if you want from it. If you need a GUI logviewer > take a look at gnome-system-log in gnome-utils package. No, I don't want a GUI log viewer - I want a program to configure (among other things) logwatch itself - the idea being that when logwatch sends me a mail containing a message I don't want to see in future I can "do something" to create a filter rule for that message. The program itself needn't be a Gnome app - it could just as easily be a CGI or a stand-along program providing an interface via HTTP - in fact that might be better as the mail could then link to the page. From jpearson42 at wowway.com Mon Feb 13 13:20:03 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 08:20:03 -0500 Subject: smbfs not in the kernel In-Reply-To: <1139782953.2369.0.camel@host-81-191-138-132.bluecom.no> References: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com> <1139782953.2369.0.camel@host-81-191-138-132.bluecom.no> Message-ID: <200602130820.03406.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Sunday 12 February 2006 5:22 pm, Roy-Magne Mo wrote: > su den 12.02.2006 klokka 17:19 (-0500) skreiv Partha Bagchi: > > I tried to mount a windows share and I got the following error: > > > > ERROR: smbfs filesystem not supported by the kernel > > Please refer to the smbmnt(8) manual page > > smbmnt failed: 255 > > I believe smbfs has been dropped in favour of cifs, since smbfs is not > maintained anymore. > > > -- > Roy-Magne Mo Huh? See: http://us4.samba.org/samba/news/#3.0.21b # yum info samba Loading "installonlyn" plugin Setting up repositories Reading repository metadata in from local files Available Packages Name : samba Arch : i386 Version: 3.0.20b Release: 2.1 Size : 15 M Repo : development Summary: The Samba SMB server. Description: ... From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 13 13:24:59 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:54:59 +0530 Subject: smbfs not in the kernel In-Reply-To: <200602130820.03406.jpearson42@wowway.com> References: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com> <1139782953.2369.0.camel@host-81-191-138-132.bluecom.no> <200602130820.03406.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: <43F088AB.2050401@fedoraproject.org> Hi >>I believe smbfs has been dropped in favour of cifs, since smbfs is not >>maintained anymore. >> >> >>-- >>Roy-Magne Mo >> >> > >Huh? See: > >http://us4.samba.org/samba/news/#3.0.21b > > # yum info samba >Loading "installonlyn" plugin >Setting up repositories >Reading repository metadata in from local files >Available Packages >Name : samba >Arch : i386 >Version: 3.0.20b >Release: 2.1 >Size : 15 M >Repo : development >Summary: The Samba SMB server. >Description: > >... > > > Smbfs is the in-kernel implementation and has been replaced with CIFS. Samba is user space. Not the same thing. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From monty19 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 13 13:25:12 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:25:12 +0900 Subject: smbfs not in the kernel References: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com><1139782953.2369.0.camel@host-81-191-138-132.bluecom.no> <200602130820.03406.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: There is an smbfs module and a cifs module in the kernel. The smbfs module is deprecated; use cifs (i.e. 'mount -t cifs...') Trying to use smbfs will yield the error message below; using cifs will get you where you want to go; I did the same thing, and had the same problem; my post, along with a similar response, is somewhere back in the mailing list archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pearson" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:20 PM Subject: Re: smbfs not in the kernel > On Sunday 12 February 2006 5:22 pm, Roy-Magne Mo wrote: >> su den 12.02.2006 klokka 17:19 (-0500) skreiv Partha Bagchi: >> > I tried to mount a windows share and I got the following error: >> > >> > ERROR: smbfs filesystem not supported by the kernel >> > Please refer to the smbmnt(8) manual page >> > smbmnt failed: 255 >> >> I believe smbfs has been dropped in favour of cifs, since smbfs is not >> maintained anymore. >> >> >> -- >> Roy-Magne Mo > > Huh? See: > > http://us4.samba.org/samba/news/#3.0.21b > > # yum info samba > Loading "installonlyn" plugin > Setting up repositories > Reading repository metadata in from local files > Available Packages > Name : samba > Arch : i386 > Version: 3.0.20b > Release: 2.1 > Size : 15 M > Repo : development > Summary: The Samba SMB server. > Description: > > ... > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From jorton at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 13:36:38 2006 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:36:38 +0000 Subject: ypbind/NIS broadcast problem? Message-ID: <20060213133637.GA4391@redhat.com> Is anybody else seeing a problem using ypbind on Raw Hide configured to search for a NIS server via broadcast? My test box is failing to find a server here, eventually giving an RPC timeout error (on a network where every other non-Raw Hide box is working in the same configuration). Using the FC4 ypbind executable on Raw Hide shows the same problem. >From looking at tcpdump RPC calls are being sent and replies are being received, but from strace the poll() call on the socket in ypbind is always timing out. Any ideas? joe From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Feb 13 13:47:04 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:47:04 +0100 Subject: smbfs not in the kernel In-Reply-To: <200602130820.03406.jpearson42@wowway.com> References: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com> <1139782953.2369.0.camel@host-81-191-138-132.bluecom.no> <200602130820.03406.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: <43F08DD8.9070006@gmx.de> On 13.02.2006 14:20, John Pearson wrote: >>I believe smbfs has been dropped in favour of cifs, since smbfs is not >>maintained anymore. >> >> >Huh? See: > >http://us4.samba.org/samba/news/#3.0.21b > http://us4.samba.org/samba/history/samba-3.0.21b.html (search for cifs, a lot of hits, eg.) Release Notes for Samba 3.0.21 Dec 20, 2005 [...] o Complete NTLMv2 support by consolidating authentication mechanism used at the CIFS and RPC layers. (search for smbfs, 1 hit) Release Notes for Samba 3.0.3 April 29, 2004 [...] * Fix smbfs problem with Tree Disconnect issued before smbfs starts its work. -- shrek-m From rc040203 at freenet.de Mon Feb 13 14:10:47 2006 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:10:47 +0100 Subject: ypbind/NIS broadcast problem? In-Reply-To: <20060213133637.GA4391@redhat.com> References: <20060213133637.GA4391@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139839847.12023.213.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 13:36 +0000, Joe Orton wrote: > Is anybody else seeing a problem using ypbind on Raw Hide configured to > search for a NIS server via broadcast? > > My test box is failing to find a server here, eventually giving an RPC > timeout error (on a network where every other non-Raw Hide box is > working in the same configuration). Using the FC4 ypbind executable on > Raw Hide shows the same problem. > > >From looking at tcpdump RPC calls are being sent and replies are being > received, but from strace the poll() call on the socket in ypbind is > always timing out. > > Any ideas? Can you exclude to be victim of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=103401 AFAIK, nothing much has happened to fix this bug in FC5. Ralf From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Feb 13 15:19:40 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:19:40 +0100 Subject: smbfs not in the kernel In-Reply-To: <43EFBEAF.8040402@partha.com> References: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com> <1139782953.2369.0.camel@host-81-191-138-132.bluecom.no> <43EFB8B5.8070005@partha.com> <43EFBBA0.5050400@gmx.de> <43EFBEAF.8040402@partha.com> Message-ID: <43F0A38C.9090800@gmx.de> On 13.02.2006 00:03, Partha Bagchi wrote: > However, if you use the Places -> Connect to Server, the connection is > named smb:// etc in the file browser. i have no problems with smb:// it was not smbfs:// should it be cifs:// ? you can connect to a w2k-server with smbfs/cifs but afair only with cifs to a w2k3-server smbfs will fail. it is the samba suite and you start smbd and nmbd with `service smb start` # service smb start SMB-Dienste starten: [ OK ] NMB-Dienste starten: [ OK ] # service winbind start Winbind-Dienste starten: [ OK ] feel free to file a RFE in bugzilla that it should be "service cifs start" or nautilus should display the protocol "cifs://" (http:// https:// ftp:// dav:// davs:// ...) -- shrek-m From jpearson42 at wowway.com Mon Feb 13 15:27:02 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:27:02 -0500 Subject: smbfs not in the kernel In-Reply-To: <43F088AB.2050401@fedoraproject.org> References: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com> <200602130820.03406.jpearson42@wowway.com> <43F088AB.2050401@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200602131027.02351.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Monday 13 February 2006 8:24 am, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > >>I believe smbfs has been dropped in favour of cifs, since smbfs is not > >>maintained anymore. > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Roy-Magne Mo > > > >Huh? See: > > > >http://us4.samba.org/samba/news/#3.0.21b > > > > # yum info samba > >Loading "installonlyn" plugin > >Setting up repositories > >Reading repository metadata in from local files > >Available Packages > >Name : samba > >Arch : i386 > >Version: 3.0.20b > >Release: 2.1 > >Size : 15 M > >Repo : development > >Summary: The Samba SMB server. > >Description: > > > >... > > Smbfs is the in-kernel implementation and has been replaced with CIFS. > Samba is user space. Not the same thing. > > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers Thank you for the clarification. -jp From bilhega at gruposertanejo.com.br Mon Feb 13 16:30:29 2006 From: bilhega at gruposertanejo.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Carlos_Bilhega_Jr.?=) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:30:29 -0300 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=3A_Ananconda_doesn=B4t_start_on_ppc?= In-Reply-To: <43F07F4E.9000404@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20060213154236.908AA24255@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> >> is it ok with the rescuecd.iso ? The same error occurs with rescuecd.iso ! Jos? Carlos -----Mensagem original----- De: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] Em nome de shrek-m at gmx.de Enviada em: segunda-feira, 13 de fevereiro de 2006 09:45 Para: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Assunto: Re: Ananconda doesn?t start on ppc On 13.02.2006 14:08, Jos? Carlos Bilhega Jr. wrote: >* Hardware : IBM eServer pSeries 620 Model 6F1 > PowerPC 64bits > 5 SCSI disks > 3 GB RAM > > With the boot.iso (12-FEB-06), starting na ftp install in text mode >with the host download.fedora.redhat.com and >/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/ I?m getting this error when >starting anaconda : > >running ananconda, the Fedora Core system installer - please wait... >install exited abnormally >sending termination signals...done >sending Kill signals...done >disabling swap... >unmounting filesystems... > /mnt/runtime done > disabling /dev/loop0 > /proc done > /dev/pts done > /sys done > /tmp/ramfs done > /selinux done > >you may safely reboot your system. > i had this problem a while back on ppc64 but i do not know if it was the boot.iso, rescuecd, ... is it ok with the rescuecd.iso ? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/isos/raw hide-TEST-ppc-rescuecd.iso fyi i had some problems with the ftp inst via "download.fedora.redhat.com" later in the installation "corrupted or missing redhat-menus-*noarch" or similiar. on a second linux box i got " to many connections from your ip" or similiar i closed mozilla on the second linux box while installation and used a http inst without problems. i personaly would avoid ftp inst via "download.fedora.redhat.com" -- shrek-m -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From jpearson42 at wowway.com Mon Feb 13 15:39:25 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:39:25 -0500 Subject: smbfs not in the kernel In-Reply-To: References: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com> <200602130820.03406.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: <200602131039.26005.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Monday 13 February 2006 8:25 am, Jason Montleon wrote: > There is an smbfs module and a cifs module in the kernel. ?The smbfs module > is deprecated; use cifs (i.e. 'mount -t cifs...') > > Trying to use smbfs will yield the error message below; using cifs will get > you where you want to go; I did the same thing, and had the same problem; > my post, along with a similar response, is somewhere back in the mailing > list archive. >..... Thank you, I just tested it. It has only been a couple of days since I managed a current rawhide install, and I had gotten that far in testing yet. -jp From jpearson42 at wowway.com Mon Feb 13 15:43:40 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:43:40 -0500 Subject: smbfs not in the kernel In-Reply-To: <43F08DD8.9070006@gmx.de> References: <43EFB479.3020202@partha.com> <200602130820.03406.jpearson42@wowway.com> <43F08DD8.9070006@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200602131043.41051.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Monday 13 February 2006 8:47 am, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > On 13.02.2006 14:20, John Pearson wrote: > >>I believe smbfs has been dropped in favour of cifs, since smbfs is not > >>maintained anymore. > > > >Huh? See: > > > >http://us4.samba.org/samba/news/#3.0.21b > > http://us4.samba.org/samba/history/samba-3.0.21b.html > > (search for cifs, a lot of hits, eg.) > > Release Notes for Samba 3.0.21 Dec 20, 2005 > > [...] > o Complete NTLMv2 support by consolidating authentication mechanism used > at the CIFS and RPC layers. > > (search for smbfs, 1 hit) > > Release Notes for Samba 3.0.3 April 29, 2004 > [...] > > * Fix smbfs problem with Tree Disconnect issued before smbfs starts its > work. > > -- > shrek-m Thank you, reading now. -jp From jorton at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 15:48:46 2006 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:48:46 +0000 Subject: ypbind/NIS broadcast problem? In-Reply-To: <1139839847.12023.213.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> References: <20060213133637.GA4391@redhat.com> <1139839847.12023.213.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> Message-ID: <20060213154846.GA3741@redhat.com> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 03:10:47PM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 13:36 +0000, Joe Orton wrote: > > Is anybody else seeing a problem using ypbind on Raw Hide configured to > > search for a NIS server via broadcast? > > > > My test box is failing to find a server here, eventually giving an RPC > > timeout error (on a network where every other non-Raw Hide box is > > working in the same configuration). Using the FC4 ypbind executable on > > Raw Hide shows the same problem. > > > > >From looking at tcpdump RPC calls are being sent and replies are being > > received, but from strace the poll() call on the socket in ypbind is > > always timing out. > > > > Any ideas? > > Can you exclude to be victim of > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=103401 The bug there is that ypbind et al can prevent some services like CUPS from starting up; not the other way round. joe From w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk Mon Feb 13 16:15:03 2006 From: w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:15:03 +0000 Subject: Problems with rawhide 20060213 Message-ID: <1139847303.2964.4.camel@billmurray.pp.rl.ac.uk> Hm, this is giving me some errors: On login I get: Feb 13 16:03:00 billmurray gdm[2860]: session_child_run: Cannot find or run the base Xsession script. Running the GNOME failsafe session instead. and the power manager dies when I log in. gdmsetup Never changes anything and often crashes. [To be fair, this may be an old problem, I didn't try it for a while] Its not good... Bill From jvdias at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 17:07:38 2006 From: jvdias at redhat.com (Jason Vas Dias) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:07:38 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: xterm-208-1.FC4 Message-ID: <200602131707.k1DH7c129247@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-109 2006-02-13 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : xterm Version : 208 Release : 1.FC4 Summary : xterm terminal emulator for the X Window System Description : The xterm program is a terminal emulator for the X Window System. It provides DEC VT102 and Tektronix 4014 compatible terminals for programs that can't use the window system directly. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 208-1.FC4 - Upgrade to upstream version 208 - fix bug 180450: disallow Bell() generation before 'term' widget is realized --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 37277396be501cab254a36f7bb606e5ce8e2dc78 SRPMS/xterm-208-1.FC4.src.rpm 26c0a35088a15d93f31486a70c4f05787aca76b0 ppc/xterm-208-1.FC4.ppc.rpm 0ca7737d575e5b6431673092ff2273cab0ad85c7 ppc/debug/xterm-debuginfo-208-1.FC4.ppc.rpm 51800659dfae6328faceb82ef6f33e9800e76cd8 x86_64/xterm-208-1.FC4.x86_64.rpm ce0f9da1a85cc5bbb56eb7ee2f540e76a362c88c x86_64/debug/xterm-debuginfo-208-1.FC4.x86_64.rpm 15cc9616a660e6a139fd6abcf2676b24fa8bd1ed i386/xterm-208-1.FC4.i386.rpm ffa78642cec9e17d151116a9faf4612189428be4 i386/debug/xterm-debuginfo-208-1.FC4.i386.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwalsh at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 17:10:32 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:10:32 -0500 Subject: SELinux and NSS [was: Problem with NSS update - Firefox, Evolution] In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602101921m14e6d08dtd7f10696241741be@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0601281249w13ed78d9n509371d7fd8b7b59@mail.gmail.com> <43E020A8.5020706@redhat.com> <8767947e0602032205t58ef1e2fs21b2e19dd989c74d@mail.gmail.com> <43E77F6D.3060104@redhat.com> <8767947e0602101921m14e6d08dtd7f10696241741be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F0BD88.2070200@redhat.com> Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 2/6/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > >> Jonathan Berry wrote: >> >>> On 1/31/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >>> >>>> setsebool -P allow_execmem=1 >>>> >>> This allows Evolution to run, but Firefox still complains about not >>> being able to do the security stuff. Still need to setenforce 0 to >>> access https. Besides, this seems like a rather far reaching "fix." >>> Not that I'm exactly sure what exactly it does.... >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >> Rereading your posts. Are you sure this is an SELinux problem? If you >> setenforce 0, does firefox/evolution work? >> > > Sorry for the lag. Well, it seems related to SELinux at least as, > yes, setenforce 0 allows Firefox and Evolution work. Firefox will run > with setenforce 1, but cannot do anything related to SSL. Evolution > refuses to start because of it. I'm still seeing this problem. > > Jonathan > > Try setsebool -P allow_execstack=1 From rstrode at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 17:13:09 2006 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:13:09 -0500 Subject: Problems with rawhide 20060213 In-Reply-To: <1139847303.2964.4.camel@billmurray.pp.rl.ac.uk> References: <1139847303.2964.4.camel@billmurray.pp.rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1139850790.2587.0.camel@halflap> On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 16:15 +0000, William John Murray wrote: > Hm, this is giving me some errors: > > On login I get: > Feb 13 16:03:00 billmurray gdm[2860]: session_child_run: > Cannot find or run the base Xsession script. > Running the GNOME failsafe session instead. > > and the power manager dies when I log in. > > gdmsetup Never changes anything and often crashes. > [To be fair, this may be an old problem, I didn't try it > for a while] Can you attach your /etc/gdm/custom.conf? --Ray From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Mon Feb 13 19:03:37 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:03:37 -0500 Subject: CDs mount to volume name References: <20060210165832.GB21865@mail.harddata.com> <604aa7910602110651h69011487nb3f027242c767288@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/10/06, Neal Becker wrote: >> A user can no longer eject a disk, because fstab isn't being updated >> correctly. Now, if I try eject, I am told the mount point isn't in fstab >> (and I'm not root). If we are going to mount cds this way, fstab sync >> has to be fixed. > > there is no fstab-sync anymore > I hope this works for kde users also. From MWeiner at ag.com Mon Feb 13 19:52:54 2006 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:52:54 -0500 Subject: Removing older GConf Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDE76@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> I am hving trouble removing issues removing gconf-1.0.9-18, as follows: [root at devfcs bin]# rpm -e GConf-1.0.9-18 /sbin/ldconfig: relative path `1' used to build cache error: %postun(GConf-1.0.9-18.i386) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 is there a way around this? Thanks in advance Michael Weiner From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Feb 13 20:01:52 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:01:52 +0100 Subject: Removing older GConf In-Reply-To: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDE76@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> References: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDE76@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> Message-ID: <43F0E5B0.7010701@gmx.de> On 13.02.2006 20:52, MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: >[root at devfcs bin]# rpm -e GConf-1.0.9-18 >/sbin/ldconfig: relative path `1' used to build cache >error: %postun(GConf-1.0.9-18.i386) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 > >is there a way around this? > not sure, iirc "--noscripts" $ man rpm rpm {-e|--erase} [--allmatches] [--nodeps] [--noscripts] [--notriggers] [--repackage] [--test] PACKAGE_NAME ... -- shrek-m From dravet at hotmail.com Mon Feb 13 20:19:20 2006 From: dravet at hotmail.com (Jason Dravet) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:19:20 -0600 Subject: rawhide, firefox, and flash Message-ID: Has anyone gotten flash to work properly in firefox? Every time I visit a flash enabled site I get the missing plugin prompt, I tell it to download the plugin, I accept the terms, it downloads and installs, but it doesn't work. I still get the missing plugin prompt. I have rebooted several times. The plugins are in the right places. If I do a about:plugins no plugins show up. What is wrong? Thanks, Jason From MWeiner at ag.com Mon Feb 13 20:25:48 2006 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:25:48 -0500 Subject: Removing older GConf Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A0DDEA0@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of shrek-m at gmx.de Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:02 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Removing older GConf On 13.02.2006 20:52, MW Mike Weiner (5028) wrote: >[root at devfcs bin]# rpm -e GConf-1.0.9-18 >/sbin/ldconfig: relative path `1' used to build cache >error: %postun(GConf-1.0.9-18.i386) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 > >is there a way around this? > not sure, iirc "--noscripts" $ man rpm rpm {-e|--erase} [--allmatches] [--nodeps] [--noscripts] [--notriggers] [--repackage] [--test] PACKAGE_NAME ... -- Ahhh, thanks!!! From lynn at garlic.com Mon Feb 13 20:31:59 2006 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:31:59 -0700 Subject: any FC5 (new) kde problems? In-Reply-To: <20060213170021.A41C873233@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060213170021.A41C873233@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43F0ECBF.8040700@garlic.com> i did yum update friday and had 300+ some changes and everything was fine. late last night i did yum update and had 700+ some change, rebooted, and couldn't get into kde. graphical login came up find (I've had spordic problems in the past with gdm/graphical logon, would need to do a non-graphical logon and then do a startx). when i entered userid/password ... there were a couple pop-up error messages about graphical interface (kde) and was eventually placed in gnome. only install message that was out of the ordinary was some message about renaming some gdm.conf file to rpmsave. From lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net Mon Feb 13 20:38:20 2006 From: lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:38:20 -0700 Subject: A couple of rawhide surprises Message-ID: <20060213203820.6979.qmail@lwn.net> I did the massive update on my x86-64 rawhide box today. The resulting system would not boot. It seems that the update changes rc.sysinit, taking out the lines which mount /proc and /sys. It's amazing how badly the system does without those filesystems...it can't even get into single-user mode. Let's hear it for rescue disks. Putting the mount lines back into rc.sysinit makes things work again, but I assume this change was made for a reason? Is there somthing in the Fedora kernel now which mounts those filesystems automatically? If so, people (like me) running mainline kernels will get a surprise. I also got this message, as reported by one other: Cannot find or run the base Xsession script. Running the GNOME failsafe session instead. jon From nalin at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 20:44:00 2006 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:44:00 -0500 Subject: A couple of rawhide surprises In-Reply-To: <20060213203820.6979.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20060213203820.6979.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <20060213204359.GB11096@redhat.com> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 01:38:20PM -0700, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > I did the massive update on my x86-64 rawhide box today. The resulting > system would not boot. It seems that the update changes rc.sysinit, > taking out the lines which mount /proc and /sys. It's amazing how badly > the system does without those filesystems...it can't even get into > single-user mode. Let's hear it for rescue disks. > > Putting the mount lines back into rc.sysinit makes things work again, > but I assume this change was made for a reason? Is there somthing in > the Fedora kernel now which mounts those filesystems automatically? If > so, people (like me) running mainline kernels will get a surprise. This is what the initscripts changelog says about it: - don't mount /sys and /proc in rc.sysinit - the initrd already does Are you not using an initrd? HTH, Nalin From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Feb 13 20:44:25 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:44:25 -0500 Subject: A couple of rawhide surprises In-Reply-To: <20060213203820.6979.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20060213203820.6979.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <604aa7910602131244j6f30c0adt244208bb482c5d5e@mail.gmail.com> On 2/13/06, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > the Fedora kernel now which mounts those filesystems automatically? If > so, people (like me) running mainline kernels will get a surprise. rpm -q --changelog initscripts * Tue Feb 07 2006 Bill Nottingham 8.26-1 - revert "rc.sysinit: don't mount usbfs, libusb no longer uses it" change - add some ugly hacks to make sure net hotplug doesn't run after unclean shutdown (#177795) - don't mount /sys and /proc in rc.sysinit - the initrd already does () - halt: try to unmount tmpfs filesystems before swapoff (#174000, ) -jef From lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net Mon Feb 13 20:49:54 2006 From: lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:49:54 -0700 Subject: A couple of rawhide surprises In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:44:00 EST." <20060213204359.GB11096@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060213204954.9060.qmail@lwn.net> Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > This is what the initscripts changelog says about it: > - don't mount /sys and /proc in rc.sysinit - the initrd already does > Are you not using an initrd? Nope, no initrd. In all my years of using Linux I've never really found a situation where I needed one... Clearly this change won't bother anybody running a stock kernel, but I bet I'm not the only nonconformist who will get bitten. jon Jonathan Corbet Executive editor, LWN.net corbet at lwn.net From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 20:54:50 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:54:50 -0500 Subject: A couple of rawhide surprises In-Reply-To: <20060213203820.6979.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20060213203820.6979.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <20060213205450.GA32134@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Jonathan Corbet (lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net) said: > I did the massive update on my x86-64 rawhide box today. The resulting > system would not boot. It seems that the update changes rc.sysinit, > taking out the lines which mount /proc and /sys. It's amazing how badly > the system does without those filesystems...it can't even get into > single-user mode. Let's hear it for rescue disks. > > Putting the mount lines back into rc.sysinit makes things work again, > but I assume this change was made for a reason? Is there somthing in > the Fedora kernel now which mounts those filesystems automatically? If > so, people (like me) running mainline kernels will get a surprise. This was done as the initrd already mounts them. See bug 181002. Right now, if you're not using an initrd, you already have to: 1) make sure your storage driver is built in (might be, in our stock kernels) 2) make sure your root fs type is built in (requires your own kernel) 3) make sure you have some sort of prefilled /dev created (requires your own /dev or udev) ... probably some other things I'm forgetting And lets not get into drivers that require firmware or other ugliness. So, generally, we require an initrd. I suppose I could put the lines in for now and relnote that booting without an initrd is deprecated, and support may be explicitly removed post-FC5. Bill From lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net Mon Feb 13 21:08:14 2006 From: lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:08:14 -0700 Subject: A couple of rawhide surprises In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:54:50 EST." <20060213205450.GA32134@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060213210814.12172.qmail@lwn.net> Bill Nottingham wrote: > Right now, if you're not using an initrd, you already have to: > > 1) make sure your storage driver is built in (might be, in our stock kernels) > 2) make sure your root fs type is built in (requires your own kernel) > 3) make sure you have some sort of prefilled /dev created (requires your own /dev > or udev) If you're running your own mainline kernel (being a proper citizen and testing 2.6.16-rc3, say), the first two are fairly likely anyway. Why configure a kernel which lacks the stuff you know you're going to need always? Honestly, I've never thought about /dev contents - it just works, IF /proc and /sys are mounted. Kernels without initrd have always Just Worked for me, since 1993. > So, generally, we require an initrd. I suppose I could put the lines > in for now and relnote that booting without an initrd is deprecated, and > support may be explicitly removed post-FC5. That might be a nice thing to do. I'll certainly cope regardless, but a couple of "mount" lines will not be the key to speeding up the boot process, and thus shouldn't really harm anybody. One of Fedora's goals is to work with a mainline kernel, as I recall; ensuring that the needed virtual filesystems are mounted can only help along those lines. A couple of other notes: - I approached that massive update with a fair amount of trepidation. The actual resulting problems have been minimal, and I'm pretty well pleased by that. I trepidated in vain. - Would the person sending challenge-response messages to fedora-test postings (that would appear to be eorgan945.sspam at uol.com.br) please stop? Thanks, jon Jonathan Corbet Executive editor, LWN.net corbet at lwn.net From McBroomRC at oro.doe.gov Mon Feb 13 21:11:38 2006 From: McBroomRC at oro.doe.gov (McBroom, Robert C) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:11:38 -0500 Subject: Problems with rawhide 20060213 Message-ID: The failure of gpm on startup of gnome has been occurring for some time. I have my system boot to a command line so that I can update the NVIDIA drivers. On starting gnome manually I get a message that dbus did not start. It will start manually and then gpm will start. It then puts up a message that it finds no sensors. New with 20060213 is the failure of the MiniCommanderApplet to load although the problem has occurred early in the FC5 development. Robert McBroom SESSION_MANAGER=local/mcbroomrc:/tmp/.ICE-unix/3609 Window manager warning: Failed to read theme from file usr/share/themes/Clearlo oks/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml: Failed to open file '/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml': No such file or directory Window manager warning: Failed to load theme "Clearlooks": Failed to open file '/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml': No such file or directory ** (gnome-power-manager:3641): WARNING **: main: Unable to determine the address of the message bus ** ERROR **: This program cannot start until you start the dbus session daemon This is usually started in X or gnome startup (depending on distro) You can launch the session dbus-daemon manually with this command: eval `dbus-launch --auto-syntax` aborting... ** (gnome-panel:3634): WARNING **: panel-applet-frame.c:1261: failed to load applet OAFIID:GNOME_MiniCommanderApplet: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/applets/applet_/prefs;back ground=none:;orient=left;size=x-small;locked_down=false [rm3 at mcbroomrc ~]$ ** (gnome-panel:3634): WARNING **: panel-applet-frame.c:1261: failed to load applet OAFIID:GNOME_Mi\ niCommanderApplet: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/applets/applet_/prefs;background=none:;orient\ =left;size=x-small;locked_down=false From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 21:17:51 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:17:51 -0500 Subject: A couple of rawhide surprises In-Reply-To: <20060213210814.12172.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20060213205450.GA32134@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060213210814.12172.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <20060213211751.GB32134@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Jonathan Corbet (lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net) said: > Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Right now, if you're not using an initrd, you already have to: > > > > 1) make sure your storage driver is built in (might be, in our stock kernels) > > 2) make sure your root fs type is built in (requires your own kernel) > > 3) make sure you have some sort of prefilled /dev created (requires your own /dev > > or udev) > > If you're running your own mainline kernel (being a proper citizen and > testing 2.6.16-rc3, say), the first two are fairly likely anyway. Why > configure a kernel which lacks the stuff you know you're going to need > always? Honestly, I've never thought about /dev contents - it just > works, IF /proc and /sys are mounted. Hm, when I did some quick testing, it blew up fairly badly due to no console. Will have to check some more. Bill From johnp at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 21:19:51 2006 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:19:51 -0500 Subject: Problems with rawhide 20060213 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1139865591.30456.22.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> Clearly d-bus isn't starting is the issue here. Have you made any modifications that could have caused this? I.E. did you compile d-bus from source or change any configuration files? Thanks. On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 16:11 -0500, McBroom, Robert C wrote: > The failure of gpm on startup of gnome has been occurring for some time. > I have my system boot to a command line so that I can update the NVIDIA > drivers. On starting gnome manually I get a message that dbus did not > start. It will start manually and then gpm will start. It then puts up > a message that it finds no sensors. > > New with 20060213 is the failure of the MiniCommanderApplet to load > although the problem has occurred early in the FC5 development. > > Robert McBroom > > > SESSION_MANAGER=local/mcbroomrc:/tmp/.ICE-unix/3609 > Window manager warning: Failed to read theme from file > usr/share/themes/Clearlo > oks/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml: Failed to open file > '/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml': No such > file or directory > Window manager warning: Failed to load theme "Clearlooks": Failed to > open file > '/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml': No such > file or directory > > ** (gnome-power-manager:3641): WARNING **: main: Unable to determine the > address of the message bus > > ** ERROR **: This program cannot start until you start the dbus session > daemon > This is usually started in X or gnome startup (depending on distro) > You can launch the session dbus-daemon manually with this command: > eval `dbus-launch --auto-syntax` > > aborting... > > ** (gnome-panel:3634): WARNING **: panel-applet-frame.c:1261: failed to > load applet OAFIID:GNOME_MiniCommanderApplet: > Failed to resolve, or extend > '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/applets/applet_/prefs;back > ground=none:;orient=left;size=x-small;locked_down=false > [rm3 at mcbroomrc ~]$ > ** (gnome-panel:3634): WARNING **: panel-applet-frame.c:1261: failed to > load applet OAFIID:GNOME_Mi\ > niCommanderApplet: > Failed to resolve, or extend > '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/applets/applet_/prefs;background=none:;orient\ > =left;size=x-small;locked_down=false -- John (J5) Palmieri From davej at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 21:29:41 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:29:41 -0500 Subject: A couple of rawhide surprises In-Reply-To: <20060213210814.12172.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20060213205450.GA32134@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060213210814.12172.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <20060213212941.GG32350@redhat.com> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:08:14PM -0700, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > One of Fedora's goals > is to work with a mainline kernel, as I recall; To clarify, the only kernel related goal is for the Fedora kernel to stay as close as possible to mainline. There will be times when you absolutely _must_ run a Fedora kernel for correct operation. See for example the time that upstream had issues with SELinux & tmpfs. We carried a patch fixing that in the Fedora kernel so that we could ship FC3 on time. It didn't get into mainline until a month later. And because of this, people building their own kernels did hit problems. Sometimes things break, and distro kernels shield users from that. Giving it all up to go it alone with mainline kernels means sacrificing that. If you're building your own kernels, you have to know what to expect. (That's a general statement, not specifically aimed at you, as I'm well aware you have a very good handle on what to expect from kernel-de-jour :-) > - Would the person sending challenge-response messages to > fedora-test postings (that would appear to be > eorgan945.sspam at uol.com.br) please stop? Forwarded autoresponder. No-one is listening, nothing list-admins can do about it. Dave From McBroomRC at oro.doe.gov Mon Feb 13 21:31:08 2006 From: McBroomRC at oro.doe.gov (McBroom, Robert C) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:31:08 -0500 Subject: Problems with rawhide 20060213 Message-ID: I've modified /etc/X11/prefdm to exit to the command line boot. All else is stock. -----Original Message----- From: McBroom, Robert C Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:12 PM To: 'fedora-test-list at redhat.com' Subject: Problems with rawhide 20060213 The failure of gpm on startup of gnome has been occurring for some time. I have my system boot to a command line so that I can update the NVIDIA drivers. On starting gnome manually I get a message that dbus did not start. It will start manually and then gpm will start. It then puts up a message that it finds no sensors. New with 20060213 is the failure of the MiniCommanderApplet to load although the problem has occurred early in the FC5 development. Robert McBroom From miles.lane at gmail.com Mon Feb 13 21:46:22 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:46:22 -0500 Subject: rawhide 20060213 -- SELinux "denied" audit messages Message-ID: audit(1139851937.273:2): avc: denied { read } for pid=1303 comm="ifconfig" name="locale-archive" dev=hda9 ino=182666 scontext=system_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file audit(1139851937.273:3): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=1303 comm="ifconfig" name="locale-archive" dev=hda9 ino=182666 scontext=system_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file audit(1139851937.361:4): avc: denied { search } for pid=1303 comm="ifconfig" name="locale" dev=hda9 ino=313857 scontext=system_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=dir audit(1139851947.254:9): avc: denied { read } for pid=1381 comm="swapon" name="locale-archive" dev=hda9 ino=182666 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file audit(1139851947.254:10): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=1381 comm="swapon" name="locale-archive" dev=hda9 ino=182666 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file audit(1139851956.586:13): avc: denied { search } for pid=1717 comm="named-checkconf" name="locale" dev=hda9 ino=313857 scontext=system_u:system_r:named_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=dir From pjones at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 21:48:24 2006 From: pjones at redhat.com (Peter Jones) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:48:24 -0500 Subject: A couple of rawhide surprises In-Reply-To: <20060213204954.9060.qmail@lwn.net> References: <20060213204954.9060.qmail@lwn.net> Message-ID: <1139867305.10271.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 13:49 -0700, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > > > This is what the initscripts changelog says about it: > > - don't mount /sys and /proc in rc.sysinit - the initrd already does > > Are you not using an initrd? > > Nope, no initrd. In all my years of using Linux I've never really found > a situation where I needed one... > > Clearly this change won't bother anybody running a stock kernel, but I > bet I'm not the only nonconformist who will get bitten. So, we've put some logic back into rc.sysinit to check and conditionally mount them. The initrd pretty much has to mount them these days, and it doesn't make sense to unmount then remount, so that's why we don't *need* it if you're using an FC kernel. But if we don't have to break not using one, we may as well not. FWIW, the way things are looking you'll have to have an initrd in the not too distant future, because e.g. qlogic cards will need firmware loaded from userland before mounting filesystems. IMHO this is coming while our (and by that I mean the kernel's) firmware loading subsystem is far too primitive and hastily thought out, but such is life. Today's nash knows how to load firmware, though right now mkinitrd doesn't know to copy firmware into the image. It's currently not something that you can detect, either. -- Peter From stelian.iancu at gmx.net Mon Feb 13 22:00:28 2006 From: stelian.iancu at gmx.net (Stelian Iancu) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:00:28 +0100 Subject: Problems getting my wireless card to work Message-ID: <43F1017C.1080501@gmx.net> Hi all, I have just installed FC5 Test2 on my laptop (HP Pavilion zt3010us) which has a Intel Pro wireless card (centrino). After a lot of reading on the net, I've discovered that, although the driver (ipw2100) is present in the kernel, I don't have the firmware for this card. So I have downloaded the firmware rpm (ipw2100-firmware-1.3-2.noarch.rpm from freshrpms.net) and installed it. Then I've setup manually the IP address of the interface (to 192.168.2.10, the wireless router and gateway is 192.168.2.1) and rebooted. Now the problem is that Fedora doesn't start anymore. It gets stuck trying to start sendmail. I've tried the interactive startup and skipped sendmail, but then the whole thing is really slow, it takes ages until I get to the login screen. Even then, ifconfig shows me correctly eth1 with the correct address, route shows me that 192.168.2.1 is the gateway (although it takes quite a while until I see the gateway line) and in /etc/resolv.conf I have the correct DNS server. But pinging 192.168.2.1 doesn't work, I get Destination host unreachable. So, any ideas how can I proceed further? FC5 seems very promising, and I must say I like a lot what I've seen so far, but this issue is a showstopper for me (my router is in another room and I don't want to have wires all over the house). Many thanks! With regards, Stelian Iancu From brugolsky at telemetry-investments.com Mon Feb 13 21:59:46 2006 From: brugolsky at telemetry-investments.com (Bill Rugolsky Jr.) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:59:46 -0500 Subject: A couple of rawhide surprises In-Reply-To: <20060213212941.GG32350@redhat.com> References: <20060213205450.GA32134@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060213210814.12172.qmail@lwn.net> <20060213212941.GG32350@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060213215946.GB20264@ti64.telemetry-investments.com> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 04:29:41PM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > If you're building your own kernels, you have to know what to expect. > (That's a general statement, not specifically aimed at you, as I'm > well aware you have a very good handle on what to expect from > kernel-de-jour :-) Fair enough. But the point of "yum update" is to get updates; having to edit the rc.sysinit on every update to initscripts would be a bit disappointing. :-( If that's going to be the case, Jon and others will have to add it to the list of excludes in /etc/yum.conf ... Bill, could we perhaps use a "noinitrd" boot flag to workaround this in rc.sysinit? Regards, Bill Rugolsky From mag at mag.cx Mon Feb 13 22:01:54 2006 From: mag at mag.cx (Christian Magnusson) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:01:54 +0100 Subject: SV: sky2 driver In-Reply-To: <1139859275.31466.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <001a01c630e9$1a24f260$2003a8c0@MAGACER> Thanks... I have applied the patch now, and I'll tell you if it works for me. Will this patch be added to next kernel-release? /Christian -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr?n: shemminger [mailto:shemminger at osdl.org] Skickat: den 13 februari 2006 20:35 Till: Christian Magnusson Kopia: For testers of Fedora Core development releases ?mne: Re: sky2 driver You need this patch, there is a race in the status handling. Fix a hang on Yukon-EC (0xb6) rev 1 where suddenly no more interrupts were delivered. I don't know the real cause of the hang due to lack of docs, but the patch has been running stable for a few hours whereas the unmodified driver will hang after less than 2 minutes. Signed-off-by: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger --- sky2.orig/drivers/net/sky2.c 2006-02-13 10:26:08.000000000 -0800 +++ sky2/drivers/net/sky2.c 2006-02-13 10:31:50.000000000 -0800 @@ -1923,6 +1923,14 @@ sky2_write8(hw, STAT_TX_TIMER_CTRL, TIM_START); } + /* Kick status timer, it seems that status timer is not + * reset on clear?? + */ + if (sky2_read8(hw, STAT_LEV_TIMER_CTRL) == TIM_START) { + sky2_write8(hw, STAT_LEV_TIMER_CTRL, TIM_STOP); + sky2_write8(hw, STAT_LEV_TIMER_CTRL, TIM_START); + } + netif_rx_complete(dev0); hw->intr_mask |= Y2_IS_STAT_BMU; sky2_write32(hw, B0_IMSK, hw->intr_mask); From w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk Mon Feb 13 22:03:57 2006 From: w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:03:57 +0000 Subject: Problems with rawhide 20060213 In-Reply-To: <20060213213120.E4CFF73630@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060213213120.E4CFF73630@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1139868238.3720.24.camel@BillMurray> On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 16:31 -0500, fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com wrote: > > gdmsetup Never changes anything and often crashes. > > [To be fair, this may be an old problem, I didn't try it > > for a while] > Can you attach your /etc/gdm/custom.conf? > > --Ray > Thank Ray. I have attached the one I had before I hand edited it this afternoon. This was an FC5T1 clean install, upgraded through FC5T2. Bill -------------- next part -------------- # GDM Configuration file. You can use gdmsetup program to graphically # edit this, or you can optionally just edit this file by hand. Note that # gdmsetup does not tweak every option here, just the ones most users # would care about. Rest is for special setups and distro specific # tweaks. If you edit this file, you should send the HUP or USR1 signal to # the daemon so that it restarts: (Assuming you have not changed PidFile) # kill -USR1 `cat /var/run/gdm.pid` # (HUP will make gdm restart immediately while USR1 will make gdm not kill # existing sessions and will only restart gdm after all users log out) # # You can also use the gdm-restart and gdm-safe-restart scripts which just # do the above for you. # # For full reference documentation see the gnome help browser under # GNOME|System category. You can also find the docs in HTML form on # http://www.gnome.org/projects/gdm/ # # NOTE: Some of these are commented out but still show their default values. # If you wish to change them you must remove the '#' from the beginning of # the line. The commented out lines are lines where the default might # change in the future, so set them one way or another if you feel # strongly about it. # # Have fun! - George [daemon] # Automatic login, if true the first local screen will automatically logged # in as user as set with AutomaticLogin key. AutomaticLoginEnable=false AutomaticLogin= # Timed login, useful for kiosks. Log in a certain user after a certain # amount of time TimedLoginEnable=false TimedLogin= TimedLoginDelay=30 # The gdm configuration program that is run from the login screen, you should # probably leave this alone #Configurator=/usr/sbin/gdmsetup --disable-sound --disable-crash-dialog # The chooser program. Must output the chosen host on stdout, probably you # should leave this alone #Chooser=/usr/libexec/gdmchooser # The greeter for local (non-xdmcp) logins. Change gdmgreeter to gdmlogin to # get the boring greeter. Greeter=/usr/libexec/gdmgreeter # The greeter for xdmcp logins, usually you want a less graphically intensive # greeter here so it's better to leave this with gdmlogin #RemoteGreeter=/usr/libexec/gdmlogin # Launch the greeter with an additional list of colon seperated gtk # modules. This is useful for enabling additional feature support # e.g. gnome accessibility framework. Only "trusted" modules should # be allowed to minimise security holes #AddGtkModules=false # By default these are the accessibility modules #GtkModulesList=gail:atk-bridge:/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libdwellmouselistener:/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libkeymouselistener # Default path to set. The profile scripts will likely override this DefaultPath=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin # Default path for root. The profile scripts will likely override this RootPath=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin # If you are having trouble with using a single server for a long time and # want gdm to kill/restart the server, turn this on #AlwaysRestartServer=false # User and group used for running gdm GUI applicaitons. By default this # is set to user gdm and group gdm. This user/group should have very # limited permissions and access to ony the gdm directories and files. User=gdm Group=gdm # To try to kill all clients started at greeter time or in the Init script. # doesn't always work, only if those clients have a window of their own #KillInitClients=true LogDir=/var/log/gdm # You should probably never change this value unless you have a weird setup PidFile=/var/run/gdm.pid # Note that a post login script is run before a PreSession script. # It is run after the login is successful and before any setup is # run on behalf of the user PostLoginScriptDir=/etc/X11/gdm/PostLogin/ PreSessionScriptDir=/etc/X11/gdm/PreSession/ PostSessionScriptDir=/etc/X11/gdm/PostSession/ DisplayInitDir=/etc/X11/gdm/Init # Distributions: If you have some script that runs an X server in say # VGA mode, allowing a login, could you please send it to me? #FailsafeXServer= # if X keeps crashing on us we run this script. The default one does a bunch # of cool stuff to figure out what to tell the user and such and can # run an X configuration program. XKeepsCrashing=/etc/X11/gdm/XKeepsCrashing # Reboot, Halt and suspend commands, you can add different commands # separated by a semicolon and gdm will use the first one it can find RebootCommand=/sbin/reboot;/sbin/shutdown -r now;/usr/sbin/shutdown -r now;/usr/bin/reboot HaltCommand=/sbin/poweroff;/sbin/shutdown -h now;/usr/sbin/shutdown -h now;/usr/bin/poweroff #SuspendCommand= # Probably should not touch the below this is the standard setup ServAuthDir=/var/gdm # This is our standard startup script. A bit different from a normal # X session, but it shares a lot of stuff with that. See the provided # default for more information. BaseXsession=/etc/X11/gdm/Xsession # This is a directory where .desktop files describing the sessions live # It is really a PATH style variable since 2.4.4.2 to allow actual # interoperability with KDM. Note that /dm/Sessions is there # for backwards compatibility reasons with 2.4.4.x #SessionDesktopDir=/etc/X11/sessions/:/etc/X11/dm/Sessions/:/usr/share/gdm/BuiltInSessions/:/usr/share/xsessions/ # This is the default .desktop session. One of the ones in SessionDesktopDir DefaultSession=default.desktop # Better leave this blank and HOME will be used. You can use syntax ~/ below # to indicate home directory of the user. You can also set this to something # like /tmp if you don't want the authorizations to be in home directories. # This is useful if you have NFS mounted home directories. Note that if this # is the home directory the UserAuthFBDir will still be used in case the home # directory is NFS, see security/NeverPlaceCookiesOnNFS to override this behaviour. UserAuthDir= # Fallback if home directory not writable UserAuthFBDir=/tmp UserAuthFile=.Xauthority # The X server to use if we can't figure out what else to run. StandardXServer=/usr/bin/Xorg # The maximum number of flexible X servers to run. #FlexibleXServers=5 # And after how many minutes should we reap the flexible server if there is # no activity and no one logged on. Set to 0 to turn off the reaping. # Does not affect Xnest flexiservers. #FlexiReapDelayMinutes=5 # the X nest command Xnest=/usr/bin/Xnest -audit 0 -name Xnest # Automatic VT allocation. Right now only works on Linux. This way # we force X to use specific vts. turn VTAllocation to false if this # is causing problems. #FirstVT=7 #VTAllocation=true # Should double login be treated with a warning (and possibility to change # vts on linux and freebsd systems for console logins) #DoubleLoginWarning=true # Should a second login always resume the current session and # switch vts on linux and freebsd systems for console logins #AlwaysLoginCurrentSession=true # If true then the last login information is printed to the user before # being prompted for password. While this gives away some info on what # users are on a system, it on the other hand should give the user an # idea of when they logged in and if it doesn't seem kosher to them, # they can just abort the login and contact the sysadmin (avoids running # malicious startup scripts) #DisplayLastLogin=false # Program used to play sounds. Should not require any 'daemon' or anything # like that as it will be run when no one is logged in yet. #SoundProgram=/usr/bin/play # These are the languages that the console cannot handle because of font # issues. Here we mean the text console, not X. This is only used # when there are errors to report and we cannot start X. # This is the default: #ConsoleCannotHandle=am,ar,az,bn,el,fa,gu,hi,ja,ko,ml,mr,pa,ta,zh # This determines whether gdm will honor requests DYNAMIC requests from # the gdmdynamic command. #DynamicXServers=false # This determines whether gdm will send notifications to the console #ConsoleNotify=true [security] # If any distributions ship with this one off, they should be shot # this is only local, so it's only for say kiosk use, when you # want to minimize possibility of breakin AllowRoot=true # If you want to be paranoid, turn this one off AllowRemoteRoot=true # This will allow remote timed login AllowRemoteAutoLogin=false # 0 is the most restrictive, 1 allows group write permissions, 2 allows all # write permissions RelaxPermissions=0 # Check if directories are owned by logon user. Set to false, if you have, for # example, home directories owned by some other user. CheckDirOwner=true # Number of seconds to wait after a bad login #RetryDelay=1 # Maximum size of a file we wish to read. This makes it hard for a user to DoS # us by using a large file. #UserMaxFile=65536 # If true this will basically append -nolisten tcp to every X command line, # a good default to have (why is this a "negative" setting? because if # it is false, you could still not allow it by setting command line of # any particular server). It's probably better to ship with this on # since most users will not need this and it's more of a security risk # then anything else. # Note: Anytime we find a -query or -indirect on the command line we do # not add a "-nolisten tcp", as then the query just wouldn't work, so # this setting only affects truly local sessions. #DisallowTCP=true # By default never place cookies if we "detect" NFS. We detect NFS # by detecting "root-squashing". It seems bad practice to place # cookies on things that go over the network by default and thus we # don't do it by default. Sometimes you can however use safe remote # filesystems where this is OK and you may want to have the cookie in your # home directory. #NeverPlaceCookiesOnNFS=true # XDMCP is the protocol that allows remote login. If you want to log into # gdm remotely (I'd never turn this on on open network, use ssh for such # remote usage that). You can then run X with -query to log in, # or -indirect to run a chooser. Look for the 'Terminal' server # type at the bottom of this config file. [xdmcp] # Distributions: Ship with this off. It is never a safe thing to leave # out on the net. Setting up /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny to only # allow local access is another alternative but not the safest. # Firewalling port 177 is the safest if you wish to have xdmcp on. # Read the manual for more notes on the security of XDMCP. Enable=false # Honour indirect queries, we run a chooser for these, and then redirect # the user to the chosen host. Otherwise we just log the user in locally. #HonorIndirect=true # Maximum pending requests #MaxPending=4 #MaxPendingIndirect=4 # Maximum open XDMCP sessions at any point in time #MaxSessions=16 # Maximum wait times #MaxWait=15 #MaxWaitIndirect=15 # How many times can a person log in from a single host. Usually better to # keep low to fend off DoS attacks by running many logins from a single # host. This is now set at 2 since if the server crashes then gdm doesn't # know for some time and wouldn't allow another session. #DisplaysPerHost=2 # The number of seconds after which a non-responsive session is logged off. # Better keep this low. #PingIntervalSeconds=15 # The port. 177 is the standard port so better keep it that way #Port=177 # Willing script, none is shipped and by default we'll send # hostname system id. But if you supply something here, the # output of this script will be sent as status of this host so that # the chooser can display it. You could for example send load, # or mail details for some user, or some such. #Willing=/etc/X11/gdm/Xwilling [gui] # The specific gtkrc file we use. It should be the full path to the gtkrc # that we need. Unless you need a specific gtkrc that doesn't correspond to # a specific theme, then just use the GtkTheme key #GtkRC=/usr/share/themes/Default/gtk-2.0/gtkrc # The GTK+ theme to use for the gui GtkTheme=Clearlooks # If to allow changing the GTK+ (widget) theme from the greeter. Currently # this only affects the standard greeter as the graphical greeter does # not yet have this ability #AllowGtkThemeChange=true # Comma separated list of themes to allow. These must be the names of the # themes installed in the standard locations for gtk themes. You can # also specify 'all' to allow all installed themes. These should be just # the basenames of the themes such as 'Thinice' or 'LowContrast'. #GtkThemesToAllow=all # Maximum size of an icon, larger icons are scaled down #MaxIconWidth=128 #MaxIconHeight=128 [greeter] # Greeter has a nice title bar that the user can move TitleBar=false # Configuration is available from the system menu of the greeter ConfigAvailable=false # Face browser is enabled. This only works currently for the # standard greeter as it is not yet enabled in the graphical greeter. Browser=false # The default picture in the browser #DefaultFace=/usr/share/pixmaps/nobody.png # User ID's less than the MinimalUID value will not be included in the # face browser or in the gdmselection list for Automatic/Timed login. # They will not be displayed regardless of the settings for # Include and Exclude. MinimalUID=500 # Users listed in Include will be included in the face browser and in # the gdmsetup selection list for Automatic/Timed login. Users # should be separated by commas. #Include= # Users listed in Exclude are excluded from the face browser and from # the gdmsetup selection list for Automatic/Timed login. Excluded # users will still be able to log in, but will have to type their # username. Users should be separated by commas. #Exclude=bin,daemon,adm,lp,sync,shutdown,halt,mail,news,uucp,operator,nobody,gdm,postgres,pvm,rpm,nfsnobody,pcap # By default, an empty include list means display no users. By setting # IncludeAll to true, the password file will be scanned and all users # will be displayed except users excluded via the Exclude setting and # user ID's less than MinimalUID. Scanning the password file can be # slow on systems with large numbers of users and this feature should # not be used in such environments. The setting of IncludeAll does # nothing if Include is set to a non-empty value. #IncludeAll=false # If user or user.png exists in this dir it will be used as his picture #GlobalFaceDir=/usr/share/pixmaps/faces/ # File which contains the locale we show to the user. Likely you want to use # the one shipped with gdm and edit it. It is not a standard locale.alias file, # although gdm will be able to read a standard locale.alias file as well. #LocaleFile=/etc/X11/gdm/locale.alias # Logo shown in the standard greeter #Logo=/usr/share/pixmaps/gdm-foot-logo.png Logo= ## nice RH logo for the above line: /usr/share/pixmaps/redhat/shadowman-200.png # The standard greeter should shake if a user entered the wrong username or # password. Kind of cool looking #Quiver=true # The Actions menu (formerly system menu) is shown in the greeter, this is the # menu that contains reboot, shutdown, suspend, config and chooser. None of # these is available if this is off. They can be turned off individually # however #SystemMenu=true # Should the chooser button be shown. If this is shown, GDM can drop into # chooser mode which will run the xdmcp chooser locally and allow the user # to connect to some remote host. Local XDMCP does not need to be enabled # however #ChooserButton=true # Welcome is for all console logins and RemoteWelcome is for remote logins # (through XDMCP). # DefaultWelcome and DefaultRemoteWelcome set the string for Welcome # to "Welcome" and for DefaultWelcome to "Welcome to %n", and properly # translate the message to the appropriate language. Note that %n gets # translated to the hostname of the machine. These default values can # be overridden by setting DefaultWelcome and/or DefaultRemoteWelcome to # false, and setting the Welcome and DefaultWelcome values as desired. # Just make sure the strings are in utf-8 Note to distributors, if you # wish to have a different Welcome string and wish to have this # translated you can have entries such as "Welcome[cs]=Vitejte na %n". DefaultWelcome=true DefaultRemoteWelcome=true #Welcome=Welcome #RemoteWelcome=Welcome to %n # Don't allow user to move the standard greeter window. Only makes sense # if TitleBar is on #LockPosition=false # Set a position rather then just centering the window. If you enter # negative values for the position it is taken as an offset from the # right or bottom edge. #SetPosition=false #PositionX=0 #PositionY=0 # Xinerama screen we use to display the greeter on. Not for true # multihead, currently only works for Xinerama. #XineramaScreen=0 # Background settings for the standard greeter: # Type can be 0=None, 1=Image, 2=Color #BackgroundType=2 #BackgroundImage= #BackgroundScaleToFit=true BackgroundColor=#20305a # XDMCP session should only get a color, this is the sanest setting since # you don't want to take up too much bandwidth #BackgroundRemoteOnlyColor=true # Program to run to draw the background in the standard greeter. Perhaps # something like an xscreensaver hack or some such. #BackgroundProgram= # if this is true then the background program is run always, otherwise # it is only run when the BackgroundType is 0 (None) #RunBackgroundProgramAlways=false # Show the Failsafe sessions. These are much MUCH nicer (focus for xterm for # example) and more failsafe then those supplied by scripts so distros should # use this rather then just running an xterm from a script. ShowGnomeFailsafeSession=false #ShowXtermFailsafeSession=true # Normally there is a session type called 'Last' that is shown which refers to # the last session the user used. If off, we will be in 'switchdesk' mode where # the session saving stuff is disabled in GDM ShowLastSession=true # Always use 24 hour clock no matter what the locale. #Use24Clock=false # Use circles in the password field. Looks kind of cool actually, # but only works with certain fonts. #UseCirclesInEntry=false # Do not show any visible feedback in the password field. This is standard # for instance in console, xdm and ssh. #UseInvisibleInEntry=false # These two keys are for the new greeter. Circles is the standard # shipped theme. If you want gdm to select a random theme from a list # then provide a list that is delimited by /: to the GraphicalThemes key and # set GraphicalThemeRand to true. Otherwise use GraphicalTheme and specify # just one theme. GraphicalTheme=Bluecurve #GraphicalThemes=circles/:happygnome GraphicalThemeDir=/usr/share/gdm/themes/ GraphicalThemeRand=false # If InfoMsgFile points to a file, the greeter will display the contents of the # file in a modal dialog box before the user is allowed to log in. #InfoMsgFile= # If InfoMsgFile is present then InfoMsgFont can be used to specify the font # to be used when displaying the contents of the file. #InfoMsgFont=Sans 24 # If SoundOnLogin is true, then the greeter will beep when login is ready # for user input. If SoundOnLogin is a file and the greeter finds the # 'play' executable (see daemon/SoundProgram) it will play that file # instead of just beeping #SoundOnLogin=true #SoundOnLoginFile= # If SoundOnLoginSuccess, then the greeter will play a sound (as above) # when a user successfully logs in #SoundOnLoginSuccess=false #SoundOnLoginSuccessFile= # If SoundOnLoginFailure, then the greeter will play a sound (as above) # when a user fails to log in #SoundOnLoginFailure=false #SoundOnLoginFailureFile= # The chooser is what's displayed when a user wants an indirect XDMCP # session, or selects Run XDMCP chooser from the system menu [chooser] # Default image for hosts #DefaultHostImg=/usr/share/pixmaps/nohost.png # Directory with host images, they are named by the hosts: host or host.png HostImageDir=/usr/share/hosts/ # Time we scan for hosts (well only the time we tell the user we are # scanning actually, we continue to listen even after this has # expired) #ScanTime=4 # A comma separated lists of hosts to automatically add (if they answer to # a query of course). You can use this to reach hosts that broadcast cannot # reach. Hosts= # Broadcast a query to get all hosts on the current network that answer Broadcast=true # Set it to true if you want to send a multicast query to hosts. Multicast=false # It is an IPv6 multicast address.It is hardcoded here and will be replaced when # officially registered xdmcp multicast address of TBD will be available #Multicast_Addr=ff02::1 # Allow adding random hosts to the list by typing in their names #AllowAdd=true [debug] # This will enable debugging into the syslog, usually not neccessary # and it creates a LOT of spew of random stuff to the syslog. However it # can be useful in determining when something is going very wrong. Enable=false [servers] # These are the standard servers. You can add as many you want here # and they will always be started. Each line must start with a unique # number and that will be the display number of that server. Usually just # the 0 server is used. 0=Standard #1=Standard # Note the VTAllocation and FirstVT keys on linux and freebsd. # Don't add any vt arguments if VTAllocation is on, and set FirstVT to # be the first vt available that your gettys don't grab (gettys are usually # dumb and grab even a vt that has already been taken). Using 7 will work # pretty much for all linux distributions. VTAllocation is not currently # implemented on anything but linux and freebsd. Feel free to send patches. # X servers will just not get any extra arguments then. # # If you want to run an X terminal you could add an X server such as this #0=Terminal -query serverhostname # or for a chooser (optionally serverhostname could be localhost) #0=Terminal -indirect serverhostname # # If you wish to run the XDMCP chooser on the local display use the following # line #0=Chooser ## Note: # is your X server not listening to TCP requests? Perhaps you should look # at the security/DisallowTCP setting! # Definition of the standard X server. [server-Standard] name=Standard server command=/usr/bin/Xorg -audit 0 flexible=true # To use this server type you should add -query host or -indirect host # to the command line [server-Terminal] name=Terminal server # Add -terminate to make things behave more nicely command=/usr/bin/Xorg -audit 0 -terminate # Make this not appear in the flexible servers (we need extra params # anyway, and terminate would be bad for xdmcp choosing). You can # make a terminal server flexible, but not with an indirect query. # If you need flexible indirect query server, then you must get rid # of the -terminate and the only way to kill the flexible server will # then be by Ctrl-Alt-Backspace flexible=false # Not local, we do not handle the logins for this X server handled=false # To use this server type you should add -query host or -indirect host # to the command line [server-Chooser] name=Chooser server command=/usr/bin/Xorg -audit 0 # Make this not appear in the flexible servers for now, but if you # wish to allow a chooser server then make this true. This is the # only way to make a flexible chooser server that behaves nicely. flexible=false # Run the chooser instead of the greeter. When the user chooses a # machine they will get this same server but run with # "-terminate -query hostname" chooser=true From johnp at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 22:05:50 2006 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:05:50 -0500 Subject: Problems with rawhide 20060213 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1139868351.30456.37.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> Hmm, first you should be booting into run level 3 instead of modifying /etc/X11/prefdm to boot into the command line. At that point you can update your NVIDIA drivers and then run init 5 to start X. I have also been informed that there has been a recent bug in Rawhide which prevents D-Bus from starting. Run this to see if it helps: sed -i -e 's@/etc/X11/gdm@/etc/gdm@' /etc/gdm/custom.conf On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 16:31 -0500, McBroom, Robert C wrote: > I've modified /etc/X11/prefdm to exit to the command line boot. All > else is stock. > > -----Original Message----- > From: McBroom, Robert C > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:12 PM > To: 'fedora-test-list at redhat.com' > Subject: Problems with rawhide 20060213 > > The failure of gpm on startup of gnome has been occurring for some time. > I have my system boot to a command line so that I can update the NVIDIA > drivers. On starting gnome manually I get a message that dbus did not > start. It will start manually and then gpm will start. It then puts up > a message that it finds no sensors. > > New with 20060213 is the failure of the MiniCommanderApplet to load > although the problem has occurred early in the FC5 development. > > Robert McBroom -- John (J5) Palmieri From lynn at garlic.com Mon Feb 13 22:29:05 2006 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:29:05 -0700 Subject: any FC5 (new) kde problems? In-Reply-To: <20060213213120.29DCA73621@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060213213120.29DCA73621@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43F10831.6080403@garlic.com> before update last night there was a /etc/X11/gdm and no /etc/gdm directory after last night's update, there is no longer a /etc/X11/gdm directory and all the files that use to be in /etc/X11/gdm now appear in a /etc/gdm. however the custom.conf file in /etc/gdm still has an entry: BaseXsession=/etc/X11/gdm/Xsession and since /etc/X11/gdm no longer exists ... it can't find the startup script From johnp at redhat.com Mon Feb 13 22:31:54 2006 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:31:54 -0500 Subject: any FC5 (new) kde problems? In-Reply-To: <43F10831.6080403@garlic.com> References: <20060213213120.29DCA73621@hormel.redhat.com> <43F10831.6080403@garlic.com> Message-ID: <1139869914.30456.38.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> sed -i -e 's@/etc/X11/gdm@/etc/gdm@' /etc/gdm/custom.conf That should fix your issues. On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 15:29 -0700, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > before update last night there was a > > /etc/X11/gdm and no /etc/gdm directory > > after last night's update, there is no longer a /etc/X11/gdm directory > and all the files that use to be in /etc/X11/gdm now appear in a > /etc/gdm. however the custom.conf file in /etc/gdm still has an entry: > > BaseXsession=/etc/X11/gdm/Xsession > > and since /etc/X11/gdm no longer exists ... it can't find the startup script -- John (J5) Palmieri From fedora at mishakononov.com Mon Feb 13 22:32:31 2006 From: fedora at mishakononov.com (Misha Kononov) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:32:31 -0500 Subject: rawhide, firefox, and flash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F108FF.2010702@mishakononov.com> Jason Dravet wrote: > Has anyone gotten flash to work properly in firefox? Every time I > visit a flash enabled site I get the missing plugin prompt, I tell it > to download the plugin, I accept the terms, it downloads and installs, > but it doesn't work. I still get the missing plugin prompt. I have > rebooted several times. The plugins are in the right places. If I do > a about:plugins no plugins show up. What is wrong? > > Thanks, > Jason Jason -- I had the same issue. In the end it was the update to kernel 1928 that got it working. I'd also recommend grabbing the flash-plugin rpm from http://macromedia.mplug.org/ , installing it, running the included homecleanup script, then running the included setup script. Restart FF, and it should show in about:plugins. --Misha From lynn at garlic.com Mon Feb 13 22:32:46 2006 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:32:46 -0700 Subject: any FC5 (new) kde problems? In-Reply-To: <20060213213120.29DCA73621@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060213213120.29DCA73621@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43F1090E.1050701@garlic.com> .... oh and doing a ln -s /etc/gdm /etc/X11/gdm and things seem to be somewhat back to normal From taquitos at gmail.com Mon Feb 13 23:00:13 2006 From: taquitos at gmail.com (Josh L) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:00:13 -0500 Subject: Problems getting my wireless card to work Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Stelian Iancu To: fedora test Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:00:28 +0100 Subject: Problems getting my wireless card to work Hi all, I have just installed FC5 Test2 on my laptop (HP Pavilion zt3010us) which has a Intel Pro wireless card (centrino). After a lot of reading on the net, I've discovered that, although the driver (ipw2100) is present in the kernel, I don't have the firmware for this card. So I have downloaded the firmware rpm (ipw2100-firmware-1.3-2.noarch > > .rpm from freshrpms.net) and installed it. > Then I've setup manually the IP address of the interface (to > 192.168.2.10, the wireless router and gateway is 192.168.2.1) and > rebooted. Now the problem is that Fedora doesn't start anymore. It gets > stuck trying to start sendmail. I've tried the interactive startup and > skipped sendmail, but then the whole thing is really slow, it takes ages > until I get to the login screen. Even then, ifconfig shows me correctly > eth1 with the correct address, route shows me that 192.168.2.1 is the > gateway (although it takes quite a while until I see the gateway line) > and in /etc/resolv.conf I have the correct DNS server. But pinging > 192.168.2.1 doesn't work, I get Destination host unreachable. > > So, any ideas how can I proceed further? FC5 seems very promising, and I > must say I like a lot what I've seen so far, but this issue is a > showstopper for me (my router is in another room and I don't want to > have wires all over the house). > > Many thanks! > > With regards, > Stelian Iancu > > > check iwconfig to see if your wireless card really is loaded... if you see it, (normally eth1 for the intel pro) then try this. In my experiences, I have had to $ifconfig eth1 down $iwconfig eth1 essid "HomeWireless" $ifconfig eth1 up $dhclient eth1 if you are using static ips (I am wondering why if its just a standard home network...) (dhcp is a wonderful thing....) skip the dhclient eth1 and just pass the information via ifconfig after doing the iwconfig. -- mr. pibb + red vines = crazy delicious -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick at wudika.de Tue Feb 14 05:04:43 2006 From: patrick at wudika.de (Patrick von der Hagen) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:04:43 -0500 Subject: A couple of rawhide surprises In-Reply-To: <20060213212941.GG32350@redhat.com> References: <20060213205450.GA32134@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060213210814.12172.qmail@lwn.net> <20060213212941.GG32350@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43F164EB.5060108@wudika.de> Dave Jones wrote: [...] > Forwarded autoresponder. No-one is listening, nothing list-admins > can do about it. Trivial. Take the list, send a probe-message to every email-address, using different From and Envelope-From for every message. The forwarded autoresponder will respond to exactly one of those From-adresses, thus it can be identified. Not perfect, but IMHO much better than other alternatives discussed on this list, like removing all subscribers and starting all over. -- CU, Patrick. From fedora at mishakononov.com Mon Feb 13 23:17:55 2006 From: fedora at mishakononov.com (Misha Kononov) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:17:55 -0500 Subject: NetworkManager and VPNC Message-ID: <43F113A3.8070708@mishakononov.com> I've got NetworkManager, vpnc, and NetworkManager-vpnc installed. I can connect to my VPN successfully using vpnc, but when I use the same settings through nm-applet, I get a message stating that it couldn't connect to the VPN server. The really bizarre part is, I started the NetworkManager daemon manually with --no-daemon to debug, and I connected successfully. Anyone have any ideas? --Misha From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Mon Feb 13 23:43:17 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:43:17 +0800 Subject: Problems getting my wireless card to work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F11995.3090207@herakles.homelinux.org> Josh L wrote: > After a lot of reading on the net, I've discovered that, although the > driver (ipw2100) is present in the kernel, I don't have the firmware for > this card. So I have downloaded the firmware rpm > (ipw2100-firmware-1.3-2.noarch Don't you have the firmware on a CD or somewhere? I'd rather use the firmware that cam with my wireless. >>With regards, >>Stelian Iancu >> >> >> > > check iwconfig to see if your wireless card really is loaded... if you see > it, (normally eth1 for the intel pro) then try this. > In my experiences, I have had to > > $ifconfig eth1 down > $iwconfig eth1 essid "HomeWireless" > $ifconfig eth1 up > $dhclient eth1 > Interesting... To get wireless up without configuring it (not FC5, but everything I've tried), this seems the go: # Enable interface without configuring it. Sometines, I find a preliminary modprobe beneficial. sudo ifconfig eth1 up # set the station, wep key. "any" finds any handy station. You should use _at least_ wep. sudo iwconfig eth1 essid any key s:passw # Use dhcp to get IP etc. dhclient or dhcpcd, whichever you have. sudo -b dhcpcd eth1 > if you are using static ips (I am wondering why if its just a standard home > network...) > (dhcp is a wonderful thing....) > skip the dhclient eth1 and just pass the information via ifconfig after > doing the iwconfig. > -- > mr. pibb + red vines = crazy delicious > > -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From linxt at comcast.net Tue Feb 14 00:19:20 2006 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:19:20 -0800 Subject: FC5 test 3? Message-ID: <200602131619.20208.linxt@comcast.net> Looking on the mirrors I normally use, I don't find any 4.92 files. Has test 3 been delayed again? Mirrors I'm using are Stanford, Utah, Oregon and Purdue. They all have /test/4.90 and 4.91 but no 4.92. Am I missing something? Thanks, Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA From johnny_blue at email.it Tue Feb 14 00:22:44 2006 From: johnny_blue at email.it (Andrea) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 01:22:44 +0100 Subject: rawhide, firefox, and flash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F122D4.7050807@email.it> Jason Dravet ha scritto: > Has anyone gotten flash to work properly in firefox? Every time I > visit a flash enabled site I get the missing plugin prompt, I tell it > to download the plugin, I accept the terms, it downloads and installs, > but it doesn't work. I still get the missing plugin prompt. I have > rebooted several times. The plugins are in the right places. If I do > a about:plugins no plugins show up. What is wrong? > > Thanks, > Jason > > check selinux settings... Andrea -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Cerchi l?amore? Allora iscriviti gratis a Meetic: troverai migliaia di single in linea e potrai chattare con loro. Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=4049&d=14-2 From jos at xos.nl Tue Feb 14 00:25:26 2006 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 01:25:26 +0100 Subject: FC5 test 3? In-Reply-To: <200602131619.20208.linxt@comcast.net>; from linxt@comcast.net on Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 04:19:20PM -0800 References: <200602131619.20208.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20060214012526.A14460@xos037.xos.nl> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 04:19:20PM -0800, Thomas Taylor wrote: > Looking on the mirrors I normally use, I don't find any 4.92 files. Has test > 3 been delayed again? Mirrors I'm using are Stanford, Utah, Oregon and > Purdue. They all have /test/4.90 and 4.91 but no 4.92. Am I missing > something? FC5t3 is scheduled for next Monday, 20 February, AFAIK. And yes, the schedule on the website is not up-to-date. -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From johnny_blue at email.it Tue Feb 14 00:26:18 2006 From: johnny_blue at email.it (Andrea) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 01:26:18 +0100 Subject: FC5 test 3? In-Reply-To: <200602131619.20208.linxt@comcast.net> References: <200602131619.20208.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43F123AA.2020104@email.it> Thomas Taylor ha scritto: > Looking on the mirrors I normally use, I don't find any 4.92 files. Has test > 3 been delayed again? Mirrors I'm using are Stanford, Utah, Oregon and > Purdue. They all have /test/4.90 and 4.91 but no 4.92. Am I missing > something? > > Thanks, > Tom > > check post in fedora-devel i think is release on next monday Andrea -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: L'auto dei tuoi sogni? Findomestic ti offre finanziamenti chiari e semplici senza anticipi! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=3940&d=14-2 From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Tue Feb 14 01:19:17 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:19:17 -0500 Subject: A couple of rawhide surprises (autoresponder) In-Reply-To: <43F164EB.5060108@wudika.de> References: <20060213205450.GA32134@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060213210814.12172.qmail@lwn.net> <20060213212941.GG32350@redhat.com> <43F164EB.5060108@wudika.de> Message-ID: <43F13015.3030201@insight.rr.com> Patrick von der Hagen wrote: > Dave Jones wrote: > [...] > >> Forwarded autoresponder. No-one is listening, nothing list-admins >> can do about it. > > Trivial. Take the list, send a probe-message to every email-address, > using different From and Envelope-From for every message. The forwarded > autoresponder will respond to exactly one of those From-adresses, thus > it can be identified. > > Not perfect, but IMHO much better than other alternatives discussed on > this list, like removing all subscribers and starting all over. What if the autoresponder is coming from one of the lists that host the fedora-lists or someone "tuned in" to one of the news feeds and not actually coming from the list that we all subscribed to? Switching to the unsubscribe all and needing everybody to resubscribe to the list would need for the lists to not post messages for awhile since it is a high volume list. Then those that do actually read all the messages could catch up with the message that they were unsubscribed. This would also allow those that do delete the bulk of the messages to have a light message load and would catch their attention. Anyway, unsubscribing everyone and then resubscribing the members would be disruptive and probably not catch the autoresponder. -- Today you'll start getting heavy metal radio on your dentures. From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Tue Feb 14 02:07:11 2006 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:07:11 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060213 changes 2/2 In-Reply-To: References: <200602130748.k1D7mQKs019059@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43F13B4F.9000402@rogers.com> Neal Becker wrote: > Transaction Summary > ============================================================================= > Install 7 Package(s) > Update 1243 Package(s) > Remove 0 Package(s) > Total download size: 1.5 G > Is this ok [y/N]: > > OK, do I dare? > > Has anyone tried this massive update? Any good/bad reports? > > I saw a couple reports over the weekend of failures to start X. Not sure I > want to try that experiment. > > That's a lot of bandwidth for people to update. I'm glad I'm not paying the bill. :-) From dcbw at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 02:40:09 2006 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:40:09 -0500 Subject: NetworkManager and VPNC In-Reply-To: <43F113A3.8070708@mishakononov.com> References: <43F113A3.8070708@mishakononov.com> Message-ID: <1139884809.4599.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 18:17 -0500, Misha Kononov wrote: > I've got NetworkManager, vpnc, and NetworkManager-vpnc installed. I can > connect to my VPN successfully using vpnc, but when I use the same > settings through nm-applet, I get a message stating that it couldn't > connect to the VPN server. The really bizarre part is, I started the > NetworkManager daemon manually with --no-daemon to debug, and I > connected successfully. Anyone have any ideas? Do you have SELinux enabled? Running NM with --no-daemon and from the initscripts are two different contexts and may affect what SELinux allows or denies. Dan From fedora at mishakononov.com Tue Feb 14 02:56:09 2006 From: fedora at mishakononov.com (Misha Kononov) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:56:09 -0500 Subject: NetworkManager and VPNC In-Reply-To: <1139884809.4599.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <43F113A3.8070708@mishakononov.com> <1139884809.4599.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43F146C9.2030205@mishakononov.com> Dan Williams wrote: > Do you have SELinux enabled? Running NM with --no-daemon and from the > initscripts are two different contexts and may affect what SELinux > allows or denies. > > Dan With the latest update, NM won't do anything with SELinux enabled. So I've been running in permissive mode -- figured that was a problem with the latest SELinux policy. But yeah, that's not the issue. --Misha From dfordham at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 04:37:48 2006 From: dfordham at gmail.com (Doug Fordham) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:37:48 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060213 changes 2/2 In-Reply-To: <51553.203.56.246.92.1139833900.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <200602130748.k1D7mQKs019059@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <51553.203.56.246.92.1139833900.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <43F15E9C.6010700@gmail.com> Steven Haigh wrote: > On Mon, February 13, 2006 11:03 pm, Neal Becker wrote: > >> Transaction Summary >> ============================================================================= >> Install 7 Package(s) >> Update 1243 Package(s) >> Remove 0 Package(s) >> Total download size: 1.5 G >> Is this ok [y/N]: >> > > Woah! > > >> OK, do I dare? >> > > Sure - it is a development machine after all, right? :) > > >> Has anyone tried this massive update? Any good/bad reports? >> > > It doesn't look like these updates have hit my local mirror > (mirror.optus.net.au) yet - as it's not showing me any updates... but I'm > game when it does :) > > >> I saw a couple reports over the weekend of failures to start X. Not sure >> I want to try that experiment. >> > > Mine still works - and that's before any updates today. So I'd say it may > not be related. You never know though - that's what makes the devel stuff > so fun :) > > ...my total download was just under a "gig", but then I am running a mostly stock test machine with few additions...avahi & hal daemons failed on first reboot, but a "chcon -t system_dbusd_exec_t /bin/dbus-daemon" and subsequent reboot squared that away... From chrisw01 at comcast.net Tue Feb 14 04:46:04 2006 From: chrisw01 at comcast.net (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:46:04 -0700 Subject: rawhide report: 20060213 changes 2/2 In-Reply-To: <43F15E9C.6010700@gmail.com> References: <200602130748.k1D7mQKs019059@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <51553.203.56.246.92.1139833900.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <43F15E9C.6010700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1139892365.4382.4.camel@spikehome.5797net.local> On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 23:37 -0500, Doug Fordham wrote: > >> Transaction Summary > >> ============================================================================= > >> Install 7 Package(s) > >> Update 1243 Package(s) > >> Remove 0 Package(s) > >> Total download size: 1.5 G > >> Is this ok [y/N]: > >> > > > > Woah! > > > > > >> OK, do I dare? > >> > > > > Sure - it is a development machine after all, right? :) > > > > > >> Has anyone tried this massive update? Any good/bad reports? > >> > >> I saw a couple reports over the weekend of failures to start X. Not sure > >> I want to try that experiment. > >> > > > > Mine still works - and that's before any updates today. So I'd say it may > > not be related. You never know though - that's what makes the devel stuff > > so fun :) > > > > > ...my total download was just under a "gig", but then I am running a > mostly stock test machine with few additions...avahi & hal daemons > failed on first reboot, but a "chcon -t system_dbusd_exec_t > /bin/dbus-daemon" and subsequent reboot squared that away... My update wound up being a 1.2GB download. I needed 2 tries to get everything downloaded and then it took almost as long to install the updates as it did to load the OS from scratch. That said, after booting the new kernel, everything appears to be working just fine...! Cheers, Chris -- ====================== "Never murder a man when he's busy committing suicide." -- Woodrow Wilson From MWeiner at ag.com Tue Feb 14 05:15:21 2006 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:15:21 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060213 changes 2/2 Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A1C97B5@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Christopher A. Williams On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 23:37 -0500, Doug Fordham wrote: > >> Transaction Summary > >> ======================================================================== ===== > >> Install 7 Package(s) > >> Update 1243 Package(s) > >> Remove 0 Package(s) > >> Total download size: 1.5 G > >> Is this ok [y/N]: > >> My update wound up being a 1.2GB download. I needed 2 tries to get everything downloaded and then it took almost as long to install the updates as it did to load the OS from scratch. That said, after booting the new kernel, everything appears to be working just fine...! Cheers, Chris -- 5 packages and 1.1G here but all is well after a reboot, thanks all for the hard work - now to dig in and see whats left to be fixed :) Michael Weiner From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Feb 14 06:39:07 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:39:07 +0100 Subject: FC5 test 3? In-Reply-To: <200602131619.20208.linxt@comcast.net> References: <200602131619.20208.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43F17B0B.7090000@gmx.de> On 14.02.2006 01:19, Thomas Taylor wrote: >Looking on the mirrors I normally use, I don't find any 4.92 files. Has test >3 been delayed again? Mirrors I'm using are Stanford, Utah, Oregon and >Purdue. They all have /test/4.90 and 4.91 but no 4.92. Am I missing >something? > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00275.html Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * /From/: Jeremy Katz * /To/: List for Fedora Package Maintainers * /Cc/: Development discussions related to Fedora Core , For testers of Fedora Core development releases * /Subject/: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Slip * /Date/: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:39:47 -0500 From buildsys at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 08:39:43 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 03:39:43 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060214 changes Message-ID: <200602140839.k1E8dgJl007784@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Removed package kernel-xen Updated Packages: GConf-1.0.9-18.2.1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.9-18.2.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.9-18.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) GConf2-2.13.5-3.2.1 ------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.5-3.2.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.5-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) GFS-6.1.5-0.FC5.1 ----------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 6.1.4-0.FC5.1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Dec 16 2005 Chris Feist - Rebuilt w/ new upstream sources * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt GFS-kernel-2.6.15-4 ------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.10.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Jan 13 2006 Chris Feist - Rebuilt and bumped version number to 2.6.15 Guppi-0.40.3-24.2.1.1 --------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Bill Nottingham - 0.40.3-24.2.1.1 - again and again and again and again and again * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.40.3-24.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) HelixPlayer-1:1.0.6-1.2.2 ------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.0.6-1.2.2 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.0.6-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) ImageMagick-6.2.5.4-4.2.1 ------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 6.2.5.4-4.2.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 6.2.5.4-4.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) MAKEDEV-3.21-3 -------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai 3.21-3 - rebuild MySQL-python-1.2.0-3.2.2 ------------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.0-3.2.2 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.0-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) NetworkManager-0.5.1-12.cvs20060213 ----------------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Dan Williams 0.5.1-12.cvs20060213 - Minor bug fixes - Update to VPN dbus API for passing user-defined routes to vpn service ORBit-1:0.5.17-15.2.2 --------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:0.5.17-15.2.2 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:0.5.17-15.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) ORBit2-2.13.3-1.2 ----------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.3-1.2 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.3-1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) OpenIPMI-1.4.14-18.2.1 ---------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.4.14-18.2.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.4.14-18.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) PyQt-3.15-1.2.2 --------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.15-1.2.2 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.15-1.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) PyXML-0.8.4-3.2.2 ----------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.8.4-3.2.2 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.8.4-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) SDL-1.2.9-5.2.1 --------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.9-5.2.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.2.9-5.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) SysVinit-2.86-2.2.2 ------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Bill Nottingham - 2.86-2.2.2 - and again... * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.86-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) Xaw3d-1.5E-6.2.2 ---------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.5E-6.2.2 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.5E-6.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) agg-2.3-3 --------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Caolan McNamara - 2.3-3 - BuildRequires anaconda-10.92.4-1 ------------------ * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.92.4-1 - improve globbing for xen guest kernels - Don't add a kernel if one is already selected. * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.92.3-1 - Don't debug log about missing help text (clumens) - Reduce deps for pkgorder - Updated kickstart docs (clumens) * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.92.2-1 - more x86_64 xen guest fixing beagle-0.2.1-5 -------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Ray Strode - 0.2.1-4 - remove preferences from accessories menu - hide holmes (gnome-panel shows it in places now) - change holmes icon to one we have * Sun Feb 12 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.2.1-4 - Update sqlite3.patch so that it behaves better with sqlite2 and 3 ccs-1.0.3-0.2 ------------- checkpolicy-1.29.2-1 -------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Dan Walsh - 1.29.2-1 - Latest upgrade from NSA * Merged optionals in base patch from Joshua Brindle. * Mon Feb 13 2006 Dan Walsh - 1.29.1-1.2 - Need to build againi chkconfig-1.3.27-1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Bill Nottingham 1.3.27-1 - translation updates * Thu Feb 02 2006 Bill Nottingham 1.3.26-1 - add support for resetting priorities without on/off status (#178864) * Wed Nov 30 2005 Bill Nottingham 1.3.25-1 - return an error if changing services fails (#150235) cman-kernel-2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4 --------------------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Jan 13 2006 Chris Feist - Rebuilt and bumped version number to 2.6.15 compat-gcc-296-2.96-135 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jakub Jelinek 2.96-135 - replace -mtune=generic in $RPM_OPT_FLAGS with something that GCC 2.96-RH groks compat-gcc-32-3.2.3-55.fc5 -------------------------- * Sat Feb 11 2006 Jakub Jelinek 3.2.3-55.fc5 - replace -mtune=generic in $RPM_OPT_FLAGS with something that GCC 3.2.3 groks devhelp-0.11-2 -------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.11-2 - Rebuild * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.11-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes dlm-kernel-2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3 ------------------------------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Jan 13 2006 Chris Feist - Rebuilt and bumped version number to 2.6.15 eel2-2.13.91-1 -------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 ekiga-1.99.1-1 -------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Daniel Veillard - 1.99.1-1 - new beta release issued eog-2.13.90-2 ------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.90-2 - Append NoDisplay=true to the right file epiphany-1.9.6-3.1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.9.6-3.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump evolution-connector-2.5.9.0-2.2.1 --------------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.5.9.0-2.2.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump f-spot-0.1.8-3 -------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.1.8-3 - Rebuild fence-1.32.17-0.FC5.1 --------------------- gcc-4.1.0-0.25 -------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.25 - update from gcc-4_1-branch (-r110831:110903) - PRs c++/16405, c++/24996, fortran/14771, fortran/20858, fortran/25756, middle-end/22439 - merge gomp changes from trunk (-r110719:110720, -r110852:110853 and -r110907:110908) - PR libgomp/25936 - fix gimplification of const fn pointers to builting functions (PR middle-end/26092) - make sure Fortran length artifical variables aren't SAVEd (Andrew Pinski, PR fortran/26246) gdm-1:2.13.0.8-1 ---------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Ray Strode - 1:2.13.0.8-1 - update to 2.13.0.8 * Mon Feb 13 2006 Ray Strode - 1:2.13.0.7.0.2006.02.12-2 - migrate custom.conf settings with /etc/X11/gdm to /etc/gdm gecko-sharp2-0.11-5 ------------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Christopher Aillon 0.11-5 - Rebuild * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating 0.11-4.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Tue Jan 31 2006 Christopher Aillon 0.11-4 - Rebuild glibc-2.3.90-37 --------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jakub Jelinek 2.3.90-37 - update from CVS - *at fixes - unshare syscall wrapper gmime-2.1.19-3 -------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Christopher Aillon - 2.1.19-3 - Rebuild gnbd-kernel-2.6.15-3 -------------------- * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.6.15.0-20051108.134753.FC5.18.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Jan 13 2006 Chris Feist - Rebuilt, bumped version number to 2.6.15 and added xen build. gnome-desktop-2.13.91-1 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 gnome-games-1:2.13.7-1 ---------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.7-1 - Update to 2.13.7 gnome-keyring-0.4.7-1 --------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 0.4.7-1 - Update to 0.4.7 gnome-libs-1:1.4.1.2.90-48.3 ---------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:1.4.1.2.90-48.3 - need to rebuild a 3rd time for long-double fixes. gnome-mount-0.4-0.cvs20060213.1 ------------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 David Zeuthen - 0.4-0.cvs20060213.1 - fix build * Mon Feb 13 2006 David Zeuthen - 0.4-0.cvs20060213 - new upstream snapshot gnome-panel-2.13.90-3 --------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Ray Strode - 2.13.90-3 - use beagle if available for search tool * Sun Feb 12 2006 Ray Strode - 2.13.90-2 - add first pass at gnome power manager integration gnome-power-manager-2.13.5.0.20060207-2 --------------------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Ray Strode - 2.13.5.0.20060207-2 - remove Hibernate and Suspend from menus as part of panel/g-p-m integration effort gnome-screensaver-2.13.90-4 --------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Ray Strode - 2.13.90-4 - migrate xscreensaver screensavers in %post as well as the triggers already there (bug 180984) gnome-session-2.13.91-1 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 gnome-vfs2-2.13.91-1 -------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 gnome-volume-manager-1.5.11-2 ----------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Ray Strode - 1.5.11-2 - get rid of gnome-printer-add gnopernicus-1.0.2-1 ------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.0.2-1 - Update to 1.0.2 gnutls-1.2.10-1 --------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Tomas Mraz - 1.2.10-1 - updated to new version (fixes CVE-2006-0645) gpm-1.20.1-73.3 --------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Petr Rockai - 1.20.1-73.3 - rebuild due to failure on x86-64 (possibly a glitch?) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.20.1-73.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) grub-0.97-3 ----------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Peter Jones - 0.97-3 - fix partition names on dmraid gstreamer-0.10.3-2 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.10.3-2 - Rebuild * Fri Feb 10 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.10.3-1 - Update to 0.10.3 * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.10.2-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes gtk-sharp-1.0.10-5 ------------------ * Sun Feb 12 2006 Christopher Aillon 1.0.10-5 - Rebuild * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating 1.0.10-4.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Thu Jan 19 2006 Alexander Larsson 1.0.10-4 - mono now builds on s390x gtkhtml3-3.9.91-1 ----------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 3.9.91-1 - Update to 3.9.91 gulm-1.0.6-0.FC5.1 ------------------ hal-0.5.7-0.cvs20060213.1 ------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 David Zeuthen - 0.5.7-0.cvs20060213.1 - fix build * Mon Feb 13 2006 David Zeuthen - 0.5.7-0.cvs20060213 - Upstream CVS snapshot. Drop a patch that is upstream. Switch to using udev rules instead of hotplug helpers for udev->hald channel. hwbrowser-0.26-1 ---------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Nils Philippsen 0.26 - avoid traceback on startup (#177197), mark "None or built-in" string as translatable (patch by Frank Arnold) initscripts-8.28-1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Bill Nottingham 8.28-1 - kill nash-hotplug before starting udev () - silence warnings on /dev/pts remount () - more translation updates * Mon Feb 13 2006 Bill Nottingham 8.27-1 - translation updates - lang.sh: revert fix for #176832, it's broken - ifup-aliases fixes (,) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Bill Nottingham 8.26-1 - revert "rc.sysinit: don't mount usbfs, libusb no longer uses it" change - add some ugly hacks to make sure net hotplug doesn't run after unclean shutdown (#177795) - don't mount /sys and /proc in rc.sysinit - the initrd already does () - halt: try to unmount tmpfs filesystems before swapoff (#174000, ) kernel-2.6.15-1.1948_FC5 ------------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Rik van Riel - go with the SMP workaround from Hubertus * Mon Feb 13 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc3-git1 - Merge kernel-xen back to kernel. * Mon Feb 13 2006 Juan Quintela - rebase rawhide 1.1941. krb5-auth-dialog-0.6.cvs20060212-1 ---------------------------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.6.cvs20060212-1 - Update to latest CVS to get some of Nalin's fixes kudzu-1.2.28-1 -------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Bill Nottingham - 1.2.28-1 - vbe/edid probing on x86_64 via x86emu - thanks to Matthew Garrett & Tollef Fog Heen * Mon Feb 13 2006 Bill Nottingham - 1.2.27-1 - restrict video devices to PCI class 0300, correctly (should solve #176978) * Mon Feb 13 2006 Bill Nottingham - 1.2.26-1 - restrict video devices to PCI class 0300 (should solve #176978) - translation updates lcms-1.15-1.2.1 --------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.15-1.2.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump libdv-0:0.103-4.3 ----------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Paul Nasrat - 0:0.103-4.3 - Patch to build with gcc 4.1 * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:0.103-4.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0:0.103-4.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libsemanage-1.5.23-1 -------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Dan Walsh - 1.5.23-1 - Upgrade to latest from NSA * Merged optionals in base patch from Joshua Brindle. * Merged treat seusers/users_extra as optional sections patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged parse_optional fixes from Ivan Gyurdiev. libsepol-1.11.14-2 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Dan Walsh 1.11.14-2 - Fix post install not to fire if /dev/initctr does not exist * Mon Feb 13 2006 Dan Walsh 1.11.14-1 - Upgrade to latest from NSA * Merged optionals in base patch from Joshua Brindle. libuser-0.54.4-1 ---------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Miloslav Trmac - 0.54.4-1 - New release with updated translations libwnck-2.13.91-1 ----------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 m17n-db-1.3.2-2 --------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jens Petersen - 1.3.2-2 - add Indian input maps ported from scim-tables - add Nepali subpackage magma-1.0.4-0.1 --------------- * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.3-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.3-3.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt mailcap-2.1.20-1 ---------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Miroslav Lichvar 2.1.20-1 - add OpenOffice.org 2.0 mime types (#173789) metacity-2.13.89-1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.89-1 - Update to 2.13.89 mkinitrd-5.0.23-1 ----------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Peter Jones - 5.0.23-1 - add basic hotplug handler and firmware loader * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 5.0.22-1.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Sat Feb 11 2006 Peter Jones - 5.0.22-1 - formatting cleanups - prefix partition number with "p" for partitions on dmraid - add support for disabling partitions which overlap with partitions on dm devices. - add multipath support - fix dm creation ordering and partition detection - add "network" command (katzj) - add nfsroot support (katzj) - add iscsi support (katzj) - put "showlabels" back into nash mod_python-3.1.4-4 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Joe Orton 3.1.4-4 - fix configure syntax error with bash 3.1 (#180731) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.1.4-3.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.1.4-3.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.2.2.1 ---------------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 3.2-0.pre9.2.2.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump nautilus-2.13.91-1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 nss_ldap-248-2.2 ---------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 248-2.2 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump oaf-0.6.10-12.3 --------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.6.10-12.3 - needed to build a 3rd from for the long-double issues * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.6.10-12.2.2 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump opal-2.1.3-1 ------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Daniel Veillard - 2.1.3-1 - new beta version for ekiga openldap-2.3.19-4 ----------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jay Fenlason 2.3.19-4 - Re-fix ldap.init openssh-4.3p2-1 --------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Tomas Mraz - 4.3p2-1 - new version pam_krb5-2.2.6-2 ---------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai - 2.2.6-2 - rebuild perl-4:5.8.8-3 -------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4:5.8.8-3 - Apply upstream bugfix patch 27170 * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 4:5.8.8-2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4:5.8.8-2 - Rebuild again - Debian released 5.8.8 patches today; apply only relevant difference: 03_fix_net_nntp : fix precedence in Net::NNTP::article from Brendan O'Dea policycoreutils-1.29.23-1 ------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Dan Walsh 1.29.23-1 - Update from upstream * Merged newrole -V/--version support from Glauber de Oliveira Costa. * Merged genhomedircon prefix patch from Dan Walsh. * Merged optionals in base patch from Joshua Brindle. portmap-4.0-65.2.2 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 4.0-65.2.2 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump postgresql-8.1.3-1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Tom Lane 8.1.3-1 - Update to PostgreSQL 8.1.3 (fixes bug #180617, CVE-2006-0553) - Update to jdbc driver build 405 - Modify multilib header hack to not break non-RH arches, per bug #177564 prelink-0.3.6-3 --------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jakub Jelinek 0.3.6-3 - rebuilt again, disable -Wl,-z,nocopyreloc tests on x86_64, nocopyreloc really doesn't work on this platform (#180552) pump-0.8.24-1.2.2 ----------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.8.24-1.2.2 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump pwlib-1.9.3-1 ------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Daniel Veillard - 1.9.3-1 - new beta version for ekiga pykickstart-0.20-1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Chris Lumens 0.20-1 - Correctly set --noformat and --useexisting on lvm and raid. * Mon Feb 13 2006 Chris Lumens 0.19-1 - --onboot requires a value (#180987). - Be more strict about commands that don't take arguments. python-pyblock-0.14-1 --------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Peter Jones - 0.14-1 - remove member partitions when we activate, rebuild them when we deactivate - add another "count_devices(ctx->lc, NATIVE)" in discover_raiddevs. it seems to help... rgmanager-1.9.34-5 ------------------ * Thu May 05 2005 Chris Feist - Cleaned up .spec file. * Thu May 05 2005 Chris Feist - Added patch to disable starting up the init scripts. * Mon Dec 20 2004 Chris Feist - Rebuild with new sources. rgmanager-1.9.46-0.FC5.0 ------------------------ rhgb-0.16.2-21.2.1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.16.2-21.2.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump rng-utils-1:2.0-1.11 -------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Dave Jones - rebuild. samba-0:3.0.21b-2 ----------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jay Fenlason 3.0.21b-2 - New upstream version. - Since the rawhide kernel has dropped support for smbfs, remove smbmount and smbumount. Users should use mount.cifs instead. - Upgrade to 3.0.21b scim-pinyin-0.5.91-4.3 ---------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Qian Shen - 0.5.91-4.3 - add scim-pinyin-showallkeys.patch * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jens Petersen - remove superfluous post and postun scripts * Mon Feb 13 2006 Qian Shen - 0.5.91-4.2 - add scim-pinyin-shuangpin.patch selinux-policy-2.2.14-2 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.14-2 - Add users_extra files * Fri Feb 10 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.14-1 - Update to upstream shared-mime-info-0.16.cvs20060212-3 ----------------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Ray Strode - 0.16.cvs20060212-3 - add gthumb as fallback * Mon Feb 13 2006 Ray Strode - 0.16.cvs20060212-2 - make eog the default image viewer tomboy-0.3.5-2 -------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.3.5-2 - Rebuild totem-1.3.91-1 -------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.3.91-1 - Update to 1.3.91 xchat-1:2.6.0-4 --------------- * Sun Feb 12 2006 Christopher Aillon - 1:2.6.0-4 - Rebuild xterm-209-1 ----------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 209-1 - Upgrade to upstream version 209 (fixes bug 180450) yp-tools-2.9-0 -------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Chris Feist - 2.9-0 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.8-8.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt ypbind-3:1.19-0 --------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Chris Feist - 3:1.19 - Build for latest version of ypbind-mt ypserv-2.19-0 ------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Chris Feist - 2.19-0 - Rebuilt against latest upstream sources (2.19). Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-4.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-4.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5smp cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5smp dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5smp gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-3.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-3.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-3.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-3.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5smp Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- ccs-devel - 1.0.3-0.2.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.3-0.2 gulm - 1.0.0-2.ppc requires ccs Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 magma-plugins - 1.0.3-1.FC5.ppc64 requires libgulm.so.1()(64bit) vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-4.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-4.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-3.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-3.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 From netwiz at crc.id.au Tue Feb 14 09:27:53 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:27:53 +1100 (EST) Subject: Asterisk funnies. Message-ID: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> After todays updates, I'm trying to start asterisk via the init script, I get: /etc/init.d/asterisk start Starting asterisk: /bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [FAILED] Telling it to restart also makes me wonder... ]# /etc/init.d/asterisk restart Shutting down asterisk: pidof: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory pidof: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory rm: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory rm: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Starting asterisk: /bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [FAILED] Running ldconfig -v shows the libraries are there, and accounted for: # ldconfig -v /lib: libsepol.so.1 -> libsepol.so.1 librt.so.1 -> librt-2.3.90.so libdevmapper.so.1.02 -> libdevmapper.so.1.02 libiw.so.28 -> libiw.so.28 libanl.so.1 -> libanl-2.3.90.so libdl.so.2 -> libdl-2.3.90.so libacl.so.1 -> libacl.so.1.1.0 libpam.so.0 -> libpam.so.0.81.2 libutil.so.1 -> libutil-2.3.90.so libpam_misc.so.0 -> libpam_misc.so.0.81.2 libblkid.so.1 -> libblkid.so.1.0 libsemanage.so.1 -> libsemanage.so.1 libthread_db.so.1 -> libthread_db-1.0.so libasound.so.2 -> libasound.so.2.0.0 libproc-3.2.6.so -> libproc-3.2.6.so libnss_hesiod.so.2 -> libnss_hesiod-2.3.90.so libcidn.so.1 -> libcidn-2.3.90.so libexpat.so.0 -> libexpat.so.0.5.0 libcrypt.so.1 -> libcrypt-2.3.90.so ld-linux.so.2 -> ld-2.3.90.so libcrypto.so.6 -> libcrypto.so.0.9.8a libattr.so.1 -> libattr.so.1.1.0 libpcre.so.0 -> libpcre.so.0.0.1 libdb-4.3.so -> libdb-4.3.so libpthread.so.0 -> libpthread-2.3.90.so libgcc_s.so.1 -> libgcc_s-4.1.0-20060210.so.1 libresolv.so.2 -> libresolv-2.3.90.so libnss_compat.so.2 -> libnss_compat-2.3.90.so libSegFault.so -> libSegFault.so libnsl.so.1 -> libnsl-2.3.90.so libssl.so.6 -> libssl.so.0.9.8a libext2fs.so.2 -> libext2fs.so.2.4 libaudit.so.0 -> libaudit.so.0.0.0 libuuid.so.1 -> libuuid.so.1.2 libpamc.so.0 -> libpamc.so.0.81.0 libtermcap.so.2 -> libtermcap.so.2.0.8 libcom_err.so.2 -> libcom_err.so.2.1 libnss_dns.so.2 -> libnss_dns-2.3.90.so libcap.so.1 -> libcap.so.1.10 libBrokenLocale.so.1 -> libBrokenLocale-2.3.90.so libss.so.2 -> libss.so.2.0 libe2p.so.2 -> libe2p.so.2.3 libc.so.6 -> libc-2.3.90.so libnss_nisplus.so.2 -> libnss_nisplus-2.3.90.so libnss_files.so.2 -> libnss_files-2.3.90.so libsetrans.so.0 -> libsetrans.so.0 libdevmapper-event.so.1.02 -> libdevmapper-event.so.1.02 libdbus-1.so.2 -> libdbus-1.so.2.0.0 libselinux.so.1 -> libselinux.so.1 libnss_nis.so.2 -> libnss_nis-2.3.90.so libm.so.6 -> libm-2.3.90.so libnss_db.so.2 -> libnss_db-2.2.so /usr/lib: libdb_cxx-4.3.so -> libdb_cxx-4.3.so libgssrpc.so.4 -> libgssrpc.so.4.0 libsvn_wc-1.so.0 -> libsvn_wc-1.so.0.0.0 libkrb4.so.2 -> libkrb4.so.2.0 libsvn_fs_fs-1.so.0 -> libsvn_fs_fs-1.so.0.0.0 libhesiod.so.0 -> libhesiod.so.0 libwvutils.so.4.2 -> libwvutils.so.4.2 libvorbis.so.0 -> libvorbis.so.0.3.1 libk5crypto.so.3 -> libk5crypto.so.3.0 libkrb5.so.3 -> libkrb5.so.3.2 libatk-1.0.so.0 -> libatk-1.0.so.0.1112.0 libgdbm.so.2 -> libgdbm.so.2.0.0 libstunnel.so -> libstunnel.so libXp.so.6 -> libXp.so.6.2.0 libpcreposix.so.0 -> libpcreposix.so.0.0.0 libjpeg.so.62 -> libjpeg.so.62.0.0 libsasl2.so.2 -> libsasl2.so.2.0.21 libdw.so.1 -> libdw-0.119.so libXpm.so.4 -> libXpm.so.4.11.0 libXau.so.6 -> libXau.so.6.0.0 libICE.so.6 -> libICE.so.6.3.0 libgssapi_krb5.so.2 -> libgssapi_krb5.so.2.2 libopcodes-2.16.91.0.5.so -> libopcodes-2.16.91.0.5.so libapr-1.so.0 -> libapr-1.so.0.2.2 libparted-1.6.so.14 -> libparted.so libhistory.so.5 -> libhistory.so.5.0 libogg.so.0 -> libogg.so.0.5.3 libvorbisfile.so.3 -> libvorbisfile.so.3.1.1 libbeecrypt.so.6 -> libbeecrypt.so.6.4.0 libaspell.so.15 -> libaspell.so.15.1.3 libform.so.5 -> libform.so.5.5 libpcap.so.0.9.4 -> libpcap.so.0.9.4 libsensors.so.3 -> libsensors.so.3.0.9 libtcl8.4.so -> libtcl8.4.so libwiretap.so.0 -> libwiretap.so.0.0.1 libnetsnmpagent.so.10 -> libnetsnmpagent.so.10.0.0 libgomp.so.1 -> libgomp.so.1.0.0 libsvn_delta-1.so.0 -> libsvn_delta-1.so.0.0.0 libgthread-2.0.so.0 -> libgthread-2.0.so.0.902.4 libart_lgpl_2.so.2 -> libart_lgpl_2.so.2.3.17 libwvbase.so.4.2 -> libwvbase.so.4.2 liblftp-jobs.so.0 -> liblftp-jobs.so.0.0.0 libsvn_ra_dav-1.so.0 -> libsvn_ra_dav-1.so.0.0.0 libnuma.so.1 -> libnuma.so.1 libkrb5support.so.0 -> libkrb5support.so.0.0 libz.so.1 -> libz.so.1.2.3 libslang.so.2 -> libslang.so.2.0.5 libapol.so.1 -> libapol.so.2.2.0 libgcrypt.so.11 -> libgcrypt.so.11.2.1 libdistcache.so.1 -> libdistcache.so.1.0.1 libpcrecpp.so.0 -> libpcrecpp.so.0.0.0 libXmuu.so.1 -> libXmuu.so.1.0.0 libseaudit.so.1 -> libseaudit.so.1.2.6 libpgtypes.so.2 -> libpgtypes.so.2.1 libuser.so.1 -> libuser.so.1.1.4 libelf.so.1 -> libelf-0.119.so librpmio-4.4.so -> librpmio-4.4.so libmenu.so.5 -> libmenu.so.5.5 libecpg_compat.so.2 -> libecpg_compat.so.2.1 libnetsnmp.so.10 -> libnetsnmp.so.10.0.0 libsvn_swig_py-1.so.0 -> libsvn_swig_py-1.so.0.0.0 libsvn_client-1.so.0 -> libsvn_client-1.so.0.0.0 libldap-2.3.so.0 -> libldap-2.3.so.0.2.7 libXmu.so.6 -> libXmu.so.6.2.0 librpmdb-4.4.so -> librpmdb-4.4.so libnfsidmap.so.0 -> libnfsidmap.so.0.1.0 libgmpxx.so.3 -> libgmpxx.so.3.0.5 libgettextsrc-0.14.5.so -> libgettextsrc.so libecpg.so.5 -> libecpg.so.5.1 libXaw.so.6 -> libXaw6.so.6.0.1 libmagic.so.1 -> libmagic.so.1.0.0 libpanel.so.5 -> libpanel.so.5.5 libpython2.4.so.1.0 -> libpython2.4.so.1.0 libgnutls.so.12 -> libgnutls.so.12.3.6 libbz2.so.1 -> libbz2.so.1.0.3 libpspell.so.15 -> libpspell.so.15.1.3 libldap_r-2.3.so.0 -> libldap_r-2.3.so.0.2.7 libkadm5clnt.so.5 -> libkadm5clnt.so.5.1 libuniconf.so.4.2 -> libuniconf.so.4.2 libsvn_ra_svn-1.so.0 -> libsvn_ra_svn-1.so.0.0.0 libformw.so.5 -> libformw.so.5.5 libgnutls-extra.so.12 -> libgnutls-extra.so.12.3.6 libX11.so.6 -> libX11.so.6.2.0 libkdb5.so.4 -> libkdb5.so.4.0 libXt.so.6 -> libXt.so.6.0.0 libsvn_diff-1.so.0 -> libsvn_diff-1.so.0.0.0 libhal-storage.so.1 -> libhal-storage.so.1.0.0 libpopt.so.0 -> libpopt.so.0.0.0 libgmp.so.3 -> libgmp.so.3.3.3 libmenuw.so.5 -> libmenuw.so.5.5 libsvn_repos-1.so.0 -> libsvn_repos-1.so.0.0.0 libidn.so.11 -> libidn.so.11.5.16 libxml2.so.2 -> libxml2.so.2.6.23 libncurses.so.5 -> libncurses.so.5.5 libstdc++.so.6 -> libstdc++.so.6.0.7 libbluetooth.so.1 -> libbluetooth.so.1.0.22 libsvn_fs_base-1.so.0 -> libsvn_fs_base-1.so.0.0.0 libnal.so.1 -> libnal.so.1.0.1 libsefs.so.1 -> libsefs.so.1.2.1 libsvn_ra-1.so.0 -> libsvn_ra-1.so.0.0.0 libglib-2.0.so.0 -> libglib-2.0.so.0.902.4 libsvn_fs-1.so.0 -> libsvn_fs-1.so.0.0.0 libneon.so.25 -> libneon.so.25.0.5 libvorbisenc.so.2 -> libvorbisenc.so.2.0.2 libsnmp.so.10 -> libsnmp.so.10.0.0 libXext.so.6 -> libXext.so.6.4.0 libnetsnmpmibs.so.10 -> libnetsnmpmibs.so.10.0.0 libcurl.so.3 -> libcurl.so.3.0.0 librpcsecgss.so.1 -> librpcsecgss.so.1.0.0 libdbus-glib-1.so.2 -> libdbus-glib-1.so.2.0.0 libgnutls-openssl.so.12 -> libgnutls-openssl.so.12.3.6 libnetsnmphelpers.so.10 -> libnetsnmphelpers.so.10.0.0 librpm-4.4.so -> librpm-4.4.so libsqlite3.so.0 -> libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 libXaw.so.7 -> libXaw7.so.7.0.0 libtonezone.so.1.0 -> libtonezone.so.1.0 libcrack.so.2 -> libcrack.so.2.8.0 libsvn_swig_ruby-1.so.0 -> libsvn_swig_ruby-1.so.0.0.0 libutempter.so.0 -> libutempter.so.0.5.5 libnetsnmptrapd.so.10 -> libnetsnmptrapd.so.10.0.0 libkadm5srv.so.5 -> libkadm5srv.so.5.1 libgobject-2.0.so.0 -> libgobject-2.0.so.0.902.4 libbfd-2.16.91.0.5.so -> libbfd-2.16.91.0.5.so libhal.so.1 -> libhal.so.1.0.0 libusb-0.1.so.4 -> libusb.so libwrap.so.0 -> libwrap.so.0.7.6 libdistcacheserver.so.1 -> libdistcacheserver.so.1.0.1 liblockdev.so.1 -> liblockdev.so.1.0.1 librpmbuild-4.4.so -> librpmbuild-4.4.so libgpg-error.so.0 -> libgpg-error.so.0.1.4 libwvstreams.so.4.2 -> libwvstreams.so.4.2 libgettextlib-0.14.5.so -> libgettextlib.so libevent-1.1a.so.1 -> libevent-1.1a.so.1.0.2 libpng12.so.0 -> libpng12.so.0.1.2.8 libreadline.so.5 -> libreadline.so.5.0 libpanelw.so.5 -> libpanelw.so.5.5 libXdmcp.so.6 -> libXdmcp.so.6.0.0 libgmodule-2.0.so.0 -> libgmodule-2.0.so.0.902.4 libpq.so.4 -> libpq.so.4.1 libwvtelephony.so.4.2 -> libwvtelephony.so.4.2 liblber-2.3.so.0 -> liblber-2.3.so.0.2.7 libaprutil-1.so.0 -> libaprutil-1.so.0.2.2 libethereal.so.0 -> libethereal.so.0.0.1 libsvn_subr-1.so.0 -> libsvn_subr-1.so.0.0.0 libgssapi.so.1 -> libgssapi.so.1.0.0 libusbpp-0.1.so.4 -> libusbpp.so liblftp-tasks.so.0 -> liblftp-tasks.so.0.0.0 libSM.so.6 -> libSM.so.6.0.0 libnewt.so.0.52 -> libnewt.so.0.52.1 libdes425.so.3 -> libdes425.so.3.0 libmp.so.3 -> libmp.so.3.1.7 libncursesw.so.5 -> libncursesw.so.5.5 libsvn_ra_local-1.so.0 -> libsvn_ra_local-1.so.0.0.0 /lib/tls: (hwcap: 0x8000000000000000) /usr/lib/sse2: (hwcap: 0x0000000004000000) libgmpxx.so.3 -> libgmpxx.so.3.0.5 libgmp.so.3 -> libgmp.so.3.3.3 libmp.so.3 -> libmp.so.3.1.7 /usr/lib/tls: (hwcap: 0x8000000000000000) /lib/tls/i586: (hwcap: 0x8004000000000000) /lib/tls/i686: (hwcap: 0x8008000000000000) /lib/tls/i486: (hwcap: 0x8002000000000000) /usr/lib/tls/i586: (hwcap: 0x8004000000000000) /usr/lib/tls/i686: (hwcap: 0x8008000000000000) /usr/lib/tls/i486: (hwcap: 0x8002000000000000) Anyone have any ideas on why it says that the libraries can't be found, yet they are there? -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From netwiz at crc.id.au Tue Feb 14 09:30:16 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:30:16 +1100 (EST) Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <28283.192.94.41.42.1139909416.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> On Tue, February 14, 2006 8:27 pm, Steven Haigh wrote: > After todays updates, I'm trying to start asterisk via the init script, I > get: *snip* Oh, I've also recompiled asterisk from source thinking that may fix it - but to no avail... -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From jakub at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 09:32:14 2006 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:32:14 -0500 Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 08:27:53PM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > After todays updates, I'm trying to start asterisk via the init script, I > get: > > /etc/init.d/asterisk start > Starting asterisk: /bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: > libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > [FAILED] Might be LD_ASSUME_KERNEL in environment of the script (rawhide glibc only supports values 2.6.9 or later). Jakub From netwiz at crc.id.au Tue Feb 14 09:36:39 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:36:39 +1100 (EST) Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> On Tue, February 14, 2006 8:32 pm, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 08:27:53PM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: >> After todays updates, I'm trying to start asterisk via the init script, >> I >> get: >> >> /etc/init.d/asterisk start >> Starting asterisk: /bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: >> libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory >> [FAILED] > > Might be LD_ASSUME_KERNEL in environment of the script (rawhide glibc only > supports > values 2.6.9 or later). Ah ha! you are spot on. the script has: # Leave this set unless you know what you are doing. export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 Time to start tinkering :p -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From jakub at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 09:38:51 2006 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:38:51 -0500 Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <20060214093851.GZ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 08:36:39PM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > Ah ha! you are spot on. the script has: > # Leave this set unless you know what you are doing. > export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 That tried to force LinuxThreads. FC5 doesn't support LinuxThreads, so you need to hope Asterisk got fixed to work with NPTL too. The Asterisk developers certainly had a few years of time to do that. Jakub From netwiz at crc.id.au Tue Feb 14 09:49:58 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:49:58 +1100 (EST) Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <20060214093851.GZ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093851.GZ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> On Tue, February 14, 2006 8:38 pm, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 08:36:39PM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: >> Ah ha! you are spot on. the script has: >> # Leave this set unless you know what you are doing. >> export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 > > That tried to force LinuxThreads. FC5 doesn't support LinuxThreads, so > you need > to hope Asterisk got fixed to work with NPTL too. The Asterisk > developers certainly had a few years of time to do that. Yeah - it looks like the newer version of the initscript has this in the headers: # Thu Nov 17 2005 Gregory Boehnlein # - Updated Version to 1.3 # - Reversed behavior of LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 # - Added detailed failure messages So it looks like it will work - although I'm in the middle of rebuilding it all to see if I can get it to work again - as part of my debugging was to remove it all and start again :p -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From netwiz at crc.id.au Tue Feb 14 10:12:21 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:12:21 +1100 (EST) Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093851.GZ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <32035.192.94.41.42.1139911941.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> > So it looks like it will work - although I'm in the middle of rebuilding > it all to see if I can get it to work again - as part of my debugging was > to remove it all and start again :p For the record, recompiling both zaptel and asterisk against the new updated libraries, and all worked fine. -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 14 10:40:34 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:10:34 +0530 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> <43E76766.4060109@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E77018.3070902@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43F1B3A2.4040205@fedoraproject.org> Orion Poplawski wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> >> I agree that major revisions of packages should go through >> updates-testing repository( >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-February/msg00220.html >> ) but that by no means is going to fix all the relevant issues >> especially when the feedback from users using the repository is low >> to non existent. > > > I have updates-testing enabled on a couple machines here for testing, > but have often found that either: > > - The time spent in updates-testing in so short (2-3 days?) that > there's no time to test. It depends on the component. We have to strike a balance between waiting forever in hope of getting good feedback and getting a quick release without any testing. > > - The bug I filed for one component was not responded to before being > released, so why bother. > Just because one bug you filed didnt get feedback doesnt mean that feedback is being ignored. Largely because there are hundreds of bugs being filed across thousands of components every day developers cannot respond immediately to every single one of them. Try getting involved with the bug triaging team if you want to help on the receiving end. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 14 10:54:27 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:24:27 +0530 Subject: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43E78D51.4020300@uindy.edu> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> <43E76766.4060109@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E77018.3070902@fedoraproject.org> <43E78D51.4020300@uindy.edu> Message-ID: <43F1B6E3.60900@fedoraproject.org> D Canfield wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> >> API or ABI stability in between updates is not generally guaranteed >> in Fedora. Any given release of any software including the kernel >> does not work in an ideal way for some users. >> >> Like I said in an earlier in the context of releases and updates in >> Fedora it means robustness and not stagnancy. >> > So, what's the point of a release, really? Can you really call an > API/ABI/release "stagnant" when the next release is (generally) only 6 > months away? There is no broad of ABI or API stability other that what the upstream projects provide. There are several updates in between including the kernel which provides no ABI guarantee for the modules. The only way to avoid breaking that would be to backport security and bug fixes and not release updates in between that while the goal within the project happens to be staying close to the upstream releases as much as possible. > Why not take the debian methodology to the extreme and just have a > testing and core repository with no releases? There's no interest in > getting or keeping any end users, right? Avoid rhetoric since it doesnt help at all. > I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just trying to understand the > point of the distro. I am hoping that the overview helps in understanding that better. > changing linux distribution in the world" and be done with it. Don't > leave it to us to debate some contrived meaning of the word "stable" > on the mailing lists. The problem is that "stable" means many things to many people. One of these happens to non changing which isnt what Fedora is all about. I have replaced it with robust in the overview now. Hope that helps. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 14 10:55:42 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:25:42 +0530 Subject: kpdf - where is it? In-Reply-To: <1139251974.3306.1.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> References: <1139251974.3306.1.camel@fc5t2.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43F1B72E.7080707@fedoraproject.org> Gerry Tool wrote: >After regressing to the old sqlite and finally getting yum update to >work this morning, I updated about 500MB worth of packages. Since then, >there is no kpdf on my system. > >Does anyone know what has caused that? > > Do file a bug report. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk Tue Feb 14 12:00:31 2006 From: w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:00:31 +0000 Subject: Suspend again Message-ID: <1139918431.2572.4.camel@billmurray.pp.rl.ac.uk> Hello all, I am confused by suspend. Does ANYONE have it working in FC5T2? For FC4 I follow the instructions at http://mhensler.de/swsusp and all is dandy. For FC5 I have no luck yet. I have sata disks, which once meant that a kernel patch was required. Is it stil? My results: Suspend: Seems to suspend. e.g. screen goes black, but recovers 10s later. Here is a cutting from /var/log/messages: Feb 14 11:29:23 billmurray kernel: swsusp: critical section/: done (49939 pages copied) Feb 14 11:29:23 billmurray kernel: Intel machine check architecture supported. Feb 14 11:29:23 billmurray kernel: Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. Feb 14 11:29:23 billmurray kernel: swsusp: Restoring Highmem Feb 14 11:29:23 billmurray kernel: Debug: sleeping function called from invalid context at mm/slab.c:2700 Feb 14 11:29:23 billmurray kernel: in_atomic():0, irqs_disabled():1 Feb 14 11:29:23 billmurray kernel: [] acpi_os_acquire_object +0xb/0x3c [] kmem_cache_alloc+0x20/0x7c Feb 14 11:29:23 billmurray kernel: [] acpi_os_acquire_object +0xb/0x3c [] acpi_ut_allocate_object_desc_dbg+0x10/0x3e Feb 14 11:29:23 billmurray kernel: [] acpi_ut_create_internal_object_dbg+0x13/0x68 [] acpi_rs_set_srs_method_data+0x3d/0xb7 Feb 14 11:29:24 billmurray kernel: [] cache_alloc_debugcheck_after+0xb8/0xea [] acpi_pci_link_set+0x3b/0x169 Feb 14 11:29:24 billmurray kernel: [] acpi_pci_link_set +0xf0/0x169 [] irqrouter_resume+0x34/0x52 Feb 14 11:29:24 billmurray kernel: [] __sysdev_resume +0x11/0x53 [] sysdev_resume+0x16/0x47 Feb 14 11:29:24 billmurray kernel: [] device_power_up+0x5/0xa [] swsusp_suspend+0x6b/0x85 Feb 14 11:29:24 billmurray kernel: [] pm_suspend_disk +0x4e/0xf8 [] enter_state+0x50/0x1ba Feb 14 11:29:24 billmurray kernel: [] state_store+0x88/0x94 [] state_store+0x0/0x94 Feb 14 11:29:24 billmurray kernel: [] subsys_attr_store +0x1e/0x22 [] sysfs_write_file+0xa9/0xd2 Feb 14 11:29:24 billmurray kernel: [] sysfs_write_file +0x0/0xd2 [] vfs_write+0xa1/0x140 Feb 14 11:29:24 billmurray kernel: [] sys_write+0x3c/0x63 [] syscall_call+0x7/0xb Hibernate: As others have reported, it can hibernate to a blinked LED just fine. But try to restart and I have two possibilities: *) Normal: disk light comes on, screen flashes, hangs there. *) acpi_sleep=s3_bios: Just boots as if it were switched off. From fabio.comolli at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 13:13:35 2006 From: fabio.comolli at gmail.com (Fabio Comolli) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:13:35 +0100 Subject: Problems with KDE and usb drive automounting Message-ID: Hi. I'm faceing a strange issue. I have two laptops, one running FC4 and the other running latest rawhide. Both run KDE 3.5.1 The second one doesn't automount pendrives or usb external drives, whilst the laptop running FC4 works perfectly. I debugged udev and it seems it's not its fault: device nodes are created correctly; however the /media directory is always empty. HAL is installed and running. Can anyone help me? Thanks, Fabio From dravet at hotmail.com Tue Feb 14 14:32:33 2006 From: dravet at hotmail.com (Jason Dravet) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:32:33 -0600 Subject: rawhide, firefox, and flash Message-ID: Thank you Misha and Andrea. Between both of your posts I now have flash working properly. Who knew it would so difficult to install a plugin? Thanks again, Jason From canfield at uindy.edu Tue Feb 14 14:34:11 2006 From: canfield at uindy.edu (D Canfield) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:34:11 -0500 Subject: Stabe vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43F1B6E3.60900@fedoraproject.org> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> <43E76766.4060109@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E77018.3070902@fedoraproject.org> <43E78D51.4020300@uindy.edu> <43F1B6E3.60900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43F1EA63.3060008@uindy.edu> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > D Canfield wrote: > >> Why not take the debian methodology to the extreme and just have a >> testing and core repository with no releases? There's no interest >> in getting or keeping any end users, right? > > Avoid rhetoric since it doesnt help at all. > It frustrates me that you dodged this question as "rhetoric" when it is actually the question that has bothered me the most. If there are no rules or policies regarding API/ABI/Version Number/Whatever stability in the releases, then really what *is* the point of a release? As the policies stand right now, there is nothing preventing all of the FC4 packages being pushed into the FC3 tree. Instinctively that sounds ridiculous, but given the package churn in FC4 of even major components like KDE, we're getting closer and closer to that. So again I ask what the point is of a release? What makes FC3 and FC4 different? Why not just have a development tree where things are developed and tested, and a stable tree where packages are then merged once people are happy with them? Then just make sure the whole thing can be installed from scratch once every 3 months and stop wasting resources on release management, updating multiple releases, fedora legacy, etc. It seems to me that it would be much less confusing than the current non-policies for releases. DC From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 14:32:38 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:32:38 -0500 Subject: Problems with KDE and usb drive automounting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa7910602140632w749f7003kdde56d41d7e58b3e@mail.gmail.com> On 2/14/06, Fabio Comolli wrote: > I debugged udev and it seems it's not its fault: device nodes are > created correctly; however the /media directory is always empty. HAL > is installed and running. I don't know what KDE in rawhide is configured to use in terms of dbus related automounting... but the fact that fstab is empty is expected. fstab-sync is gone and is being replaced with "pure" dbus/hal methods which both desktop should be taking advantage of in their own way. I do not know the kde equivalent of gnome-volume-manager but I'm sure it exists, other distributions use kde with "pmount" based on hal/dbus interaction. I will say that I'm not surprised that you are having problems with this in rawhide KDE.. I'm having similar problems with GNOME at the moment. Devices are only being correctly seen by natilus and the automounter if they are plugged in before login to the desktop. Even odder is if they are unplugged, nautilus continues to list them AND the listing and mountpoint will get reused by another usb device even though the listing and mountpoint are volume-label specific and should NOT be re-used by a different storage device with a different volume label. -jef From fabio.comolli at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 15:05:42 2006 From: fabio.comolli at gmail.com (Fabio Comolli) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:05:42 +0100 Subject: Problems with KDE and usb drive automounting In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602140632w749f7003kdde56d41d7e58b3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910602140632w749f7003kdde56d41d7e58b3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jeff. > I don't know what KDE in rawhide is configured to use in terms of dbus > related automounting... but the fact that fstab is empty is expected. > fstab-sync is gone and is being replaced with "pure" dbus/hal methods > which both desktop should be taking advantage of in their own way. I > do not know the kde equivalent of gnome-volume-manager but I'm sure it > exists, other distributions use kde with "pmount" based on hal/dbus > interaction. > Yes, I noticed that fstab-sync is gone but pmount is not available in any fedora-devel repo. > I will say that I'm not surprised that you are having problems with > this in rawhide KDE.. It seems to me a very nasty regression as the same configuration works nicely in FC4. Regards, Fabio From rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net Tue Feb 14 15:05:16 2006 From: rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net (Robert Nichols) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:05:16 -0600 Subject: Yum still ignoring "tokeep=" in installonlyn.conf Message-ID: It seems that bug #176704 is still alive and well. Today's rawhide update would have wiped out all but my currently running kernel despite my installonlyn.conf containing [main] enabled=1 # this sets the number of package versions which are kept tokeep=5 Perhaps most of the testers have disabled this plugin. I see this bug is on the FC5 blocker list. -- Bob Nichols Yes, "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. From pjones at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 15:11:45 2006 From: pjones at redhat.com (Peter Jones) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:11:45 -0500 Subject: FC5 on fakeraid In-Reply-To: <43ED1048.5000800@gmail.com> References: <43ED1048.5000800@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1139929906.3718.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 17:14 -0500, Dan wrote: > I already posted a bug about this ( > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178079 ), but just > throwing it out there: > With FC5 test 2 (for x86_64 in my case), anaconda is able to install > onto my NVRAID 0 array (one of many so-called "fakeraid" implementations > of onboard RAID, handled by dmraid), and flawlessly too. Except, > apparently, for grub, because booting after installation is complete > sends me into a grub prompt. Does the BIOS actually have the controller listed as a "RAID" controller, rather than an IDE controller? Usually this type of failure means it was set up as a raid, and then the "raid" functionality was turned off without removing the metadata. > If I use that prompt to install grub and > reboot, I can boot my Windows installations fine, but FC5 kernel panics > because it can't find any labeled partitions (especially /). So it now > seems like dmraid is working in grub, but not in the startup of Fedora. You're sure that was test 2, not some newer rawhide snapshot? (the last couple of days have been somewhat broken for installing on dmraid; today's is as well, but tomorrow's should work ok for most people...) -- Peter From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 15:22:19 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:22:19 -0500 Subject: Stabe vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43F1EA63.3060008@uindy.edu> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> <43E76766.4060109@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E77018.3070902@fedoraproject.org> <43E78D51.4020300@uindy.edu> <43F1B6E3.60900@fedoraproject.org> <43F1EA63.3060008@uindy.edu> Message-ID: <604aa7910602140722y5f5647b7q138c435c7f43ec03@mail.gmail.com> On 2/14/06, D Canfield wrote: > So again I ask what the point is of a release? What makes FC3 and FC4 > different? "time based release model".. predictability of behavior...even broken behavior at install time of the "releases". > Why not just have a development tree where things are > developed and tested, and a stable tree where packages are then merged > once people are happy with them? What is the incentive to make sure ALL the peices integrate together nicely at any given point in time.. unless there are set release dates to shoot for? A release schedule drives integration efforts to make sure all the pieces work together. You can't just throw chunks of the development tree over the fence into stable, you have to deal with integration issues across subcomponents by having freeze points. Do you really want to see a full rebuild of ALL packages in your "stable" tree because a new compiler landed in the stable tree forcing everyone in the userbase to download and install the ENTIRE installed packageset as updates? Do you really want to see users who have been relying on how the fc4 styled automounting worked via hal policy files and fstab-sync.. suddenly find the automounting working in a completely different way regardless of desktop because the new hal stuff moved into your "stable" tree? Do you want to see systems break because selinux was turned on in an update but the filesystems were not properlly labeled at install time? Do you really want to see a reorganization of the metadata in stable tree repository that is incompatible with previous "stable" incarnations and forcing users to deal with that change as part of updates. Do you comprehend how much has changed in this fc5 test cycle inside the installer itself? Inside how comps groupings are defined? Did you really want to see the jump from an 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel as an update in your non-release tree world? Your single "stable" tree would force DEEP incompatibilities during updates onto all users regardless of when they did their install. The fc3 to fc4 release transition might not have introduced signficant technology differences...but other releases have. The jump from 2.4 to 2.6 kernel was significant. Turning on selinux by default was significant. Replacing static dev with udev was significant. In the large scale view of Fedora Core.. KDE is NOT a critical subcomponent of the fedora software stack. It is OPTIONAL and how it is treated in terms of updates compared to other much more integrated components can not be fairly compared. The reality you need to come to terms with is that individual Core packagers have some freedom to do what they think is best in terms of updating components and there is discussion among Core developers and the release team with regard to update policy highly integrated components. You are NOT going to get a black and white policy with regard to how updates are done. Much of the development is done by consensous among the developers..because there are competing demands over how updates are handled. My understanding as to how things get updated or held back is based on a perception of impact to other subsystems. Highly integrated technologies are much less likely to see a disruptive update... but it could still happen based on other factors like critically needed security fixes. You simply cannot compare the update of KDE to something like the introduction of udev as replacement of static dev as an update to a release. There are technologies that are only introduced in new releases based on perception of impact due to the level of integration in the software stack of Fedora Core. KDE is not regarded as a critically integrated technology and the package maintainer as much more leeway to respond to user demand for an update asap. -jef From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 14 16:04:41 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:34:41 +0530 Subject: Stabe vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43F1EA63.3060008@uindy.edu> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> <43E76766.4060109@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E77018.3070902@fedoraproject.org> <43E78D51.4020300@uindy.edu> <43F1B6E3.60900@fedoraproject.org> <43F1EA63.3060008@uindy.edu> Message-ID: <43F1FF99.1080602@fedoraproject.org> Hi D Canfield wrote: >> >>> Why not take the debian methodology to the extreme and just have a >>> testing and core repository with no releases? There's no interest >>> in getting or keeping any end users, right? >> >> Avoid rhetoric since it doesnt help at all. >> > It frustrates me that you dodged this question as "rhetoric" when it > is actually the question that has bothered me the most. The rhetoric comes from questioning the interest in retaining users. > If there are no rules or policies regarding API/ABI/Version > Number/Whatever stability in the releases, then really what *is* the > point of a release? Point of a release is achieving a set of milestones while branching off into a development tree for intrusive changes which cannot be provided as an update in a rolling release model. These are all discussions that has already happened when Fedora was launched. Refer to fedora-devel list archives. > As the policies stand right now, there is nothing preventing all of > the FC4 packages being pushed into the FC3 tree. Instinctively that > sounds ridiculous, but given the package churn in FC4 of even major > components like KDE, we're getting closer and closer to that. There has been a large number of changes that is only happening during the development stage and not as updates. Many of them like modular Xorg, SELinux reference policy or changes in the system compiler affects nearly all of the packages. These changes are tested in the rawhide and test releases and included in the subsequent release. Every release of Fedora has included fairly major innovative changes. > So again I ask what the point is of a release? What makes FC3 and FC4 > different? Why not just have a development tree where things are > developed and tested, and a stable tree where packages are then merged > once people are happy with them? Then just make sure the whole thing > can be installed from scratch once every 3 months and stop wasting > resources on release management, updating multiple releases, fedora > legacy, etc. It seems to me that it would be much less confusing > than the current non-policies for releases. In short, rolling updates for every change is not feasible without a extensively large amount of QA. Even then I believe the current model of releases is better than trying out that. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 16:04:09 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:04:09 -0500 Subject: suspend working (again), but hibernate still broken Message-ID: pm-hibernate GNU GRUB version 0.97 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory) [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename.] grub> savedefault --default=0 --once grub> /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate: line 24: echo: write error: No such device Feb 14 11:02:09 localhost kernel: swsusp: Cannot find swap device, try swapon -a This used to work, and I do have a swap device. cat /proc/swaps Filename Type Size Used Priority /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol01 partition 2031608 0 -1 From canfield at uindy.edu Tue Feb 14 16:27:31 2006 From: canfield at uindy.edu (D Canfield) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:27:31 -0500 Subject: Stable vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602140722y5f5647b7q138c435c7f43ec03@mail.gmail.com> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E3F141.7010605@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E6B629.9050703@uindy.edu> <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> <43E76766.4060109@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E77018.3070902@fedoraproject.org> <43E78D51.4020300@uindy.edu> <43F1B6E3.60900@fedoraproject.org> <43F1EA63.3060008@uindy.edu> <604aa7910602140722y5f5647b7q138c435c7f43ec03@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F204F3.2030204@uindy.edu> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > What is the incentive to make sure ALL the peices integrate together > nicely at any given point in time.. unless there are set release dates > to shoot for? A release schedule drives integration efforts to make > sure all the pieces work together. You can't just throw chunks of the > development tree over the fence into stable, you have to deal with > integration issues across subcomponents by having freeze points. > And that all makes sense. My point is that after the software is frozen and released, it seems to the revert back into an open development tree, with no rules as to what gets released except "try not to break stuff." > Do you really want to see a full rebuild of ALL packages in your > "stable" tree because a new compiler landed in the stable tree forcing > everyone in the userbase to download and install the ENTIRE installed > packageset as updates? Do you really want to see users who have been > relying on how the fc4 styled automounting worked via hal policy files > and fstab-sync.. suddenly find the automounting working in a > completely different way regardless of desktop because the new hal > stuff moved into your "stable" tree? Not at all. My "proposal" about the rolling releases was not meant to be taken seriously. I was trying to illustrate a point that when some people talk about trying to stabilize things and make life easier on the users, there is always someone waiting to proclaim that "Fedora is an agressive developer's release and things break. Deal with it or switch distributions." (And that's why I included the "rhetoric" about actual users not being important to FC in my previous message.) > In the large scale view of Fedora Core.. KDE is NOT a critical > subcomponent of the fedora software stack. It is OPTIONAL and how it > is treated in terms of updates compared to other much more integrated > components can not be fairly compared. It's in Core. How are end users supposed to know it's a second-class component? Or is this one of the times that end users just have to deal with things changing and leave if they don't like it? (FWIW, I'm not a KDE user, so my interest is only in improving FC's policies and procedures.) I'm sure I'm coming across in all of this as an argumentative sap. But as an avid reader of fedora-devel for several months, I still don't usually know what to expect from the project. It honestly feels as though people flip-flop between the arguments that "we have to do it for the users" and "FC is a development project" interchangeably depending on what best justifies a course of action they want to take. And the truth is that I don't care which route the project takes. I just wish some of the goals and plans would be better defined, documented, and followed. DC From johnp at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 16:40:58 2006 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:40:58 -0500 Subject: Problems with KDE and usb drive automounting In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602140632w749f7003kdde56d41d7e58b3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910602140632w749f7003kdde56d41d7e58b3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1139935258.30456.46.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> Recent rawhide prevents HAL from starting up because of the privilege separation (HAL now runs with dropped privileges and has a helper daemon to execute scripts). SELinux wasn't updated to reflect this change yet. On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 09:32 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/14/06, Fabio Comolli wrote: > > I debugged udev and it seems it's not its fault: device nodes are > > created correctly; however the /media directory is always empty. HAL > > is installed and running. > > I don't know what KDE in rawhide is configured to use in terms of dbus > related automounting... but the fact that fstab is empty is expected. > fstab-sync is gone and is being replaced with "pure" dbus/hal methods > which both desktop should be taking advantage of in their own way. I > do not know the kde equivalent of gnome-volume-manager but I'm sure it > exists, other distributions use kde with "pmount" based on hal/dbus > interaction. > > I will say that I'm not surprised that you are having problems with > this in rawhide KDE.. I'm having similar problems with GNOME at the > moment. Devices are only being correctly seen by natilus and the > automounter if they are plugged in before login to the desktop. Even > odder is if they are unplugged, nautilus continues to list them AND > the listing and mountpoint will get reused by another usb device even > though the listing and mountpoint are volume-label specific and should > NOT be re-used by a different storage device with a different volume > label. > > -jef -- John (J5) Palmieri From katzj at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 16:49:31 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:49:31 -0500 Subject: suspend working (again), but hibernate still broken In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1139935771.8965.16.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 11:04 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > Feb 14 11:02:09 localhost kernel: swsusp: Cannot find swap device, try swapon -a > > This used to work, and I do have a swap device. For swap on LVM, I filed bug 181420 Jeremy From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Tue Feb 14 17:07:39 2006 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:07:39 +0100 Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <32035.192.94.41.42.1139911941.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093851.GZ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <32035.192.94.41.42.1139911941.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <20060214170739.GN9720@neu.nirvana> On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 09:12:21PM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > > So it looks like it will work - although I'm in the middle of rebuilding > > it all to see if I can get it to work again - as part of my debugging was > > to remove it all and start again :p > > For the record, recompiling both zaptel and asterisk against the new > updated libraries, and all worked fine. There are asterisk, zaptel etc builds for FC5 at http://ATrpms.net/dist/fc5/ Would you like to give them a test? Thanks! -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fabio.comolli at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 17:09:15 2006 From: fabio.comolli at gmail.com (Fabio Comolli) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:09:15 +0100 Subject: Problems with KDE and usb drive automounting In-Reply-To: <1139935258.30456.46.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> References: <604aa7910602140632w749f7003kdde56d41d7e58b3e@mail.gmail.com> <1139935258.30456.46.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: Hi John. Selinux is disabled in my configuration so I'm not sure that it is the cause. Fabio On 2/14/06, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > Recent rawhide prevents HAL from starting up because of the privilege > separation (HAL now runs with dropped privileges and has a helper daemon > to execute scripts). SELinux wasn't updated to reflect this change yet. > > On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 09:32 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On 2/14/06, Fabio Comolli wrote: > > > I debugged udev and it seems it's not its fault: device nodes are > > > created correctly; however the /media directory is always empty. HAL > > > is installed and running. > > > > I don't know what KDE in rawhide is configured to use in terms of dbus > > related automounting... but the fact that fstab is empty is expected. > > fstab-sync is gone and is being replaced with "pure" dbus/hal methods > > which both desktop should be taking advantage of in their own way. I > > do not know the kde equivalent of gnome-volume-manager but I'm sure it > > exists, other distributions use kde with "pmount" based on hal/dbus > > interaction. > > > > I will say that I'm not surprised that you are having problems with > > this in rawhide KDE.. I'm having similar problems with GNOME at the > > moment. Devices are only being correctly seen by natilus and the > > automounter if they are plugged in before login to the desktop. Even > > odder is if they are unplugged, nautilus continues to list them AND > > the listing and mountpoint will get reused by another usb device even > > though the listing and mountpoint are volume-label specific and should > > NOT be re-used by a different storage device with a different volume > > label. > > > > -jef > > -- > John (J5) Palmieri > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From katzj at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 17:12:03 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:12:03 -0500 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? Message-ID: <1139937123.8965.27.camel@bree.local.net> As we work towards getting FC5 test3 ready for public release, there's a fair bit of testing that we want to get done to help ensure that test3 is as good as it can be. To try to make this process a little bit more open and let people who want to help find testing tasks, I've created http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Test3TreeTesting. Much of this testing can be done with today's rawhide tree, so if you want to jump in and help, update the testing matrix. If you find bugs that you think would be showstoppers for the test3 release in your testing of rawhide, please link to them there so that we can evaluate as best as possible. Any questions, ask away here or by popping into #fedora-devel on irc.freenode.net Jeremy From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 17:18:16 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:18:16 -0500 Subject: Stable vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43F204F3.2030204@uindy.edu> References: <1138988926.14824.394.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> <43E6E9E8.9070902@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E75E8C.9060608@uindy.edu> <43E76766.4060109@herakles.homelinux.org> <43E77018.3070902@fedoraproject.org> <43E78D51.4020300@uindy.edu> <43F1B6E3.60900@fedoraproject.org> <43F1EA63.3060008@uindy.edu> <604aa7910602140722y5f5647b7q138c435c7f43ec03@mail.gmail.com> <43F204F3.2030204@uindy.edu> Message-ID: <604aa7910602140918n503083dar143c0e6c51c2992@mail.gmail.com> On 2/14/06, D Canfield wrote: > Jeff Spaleta wrote: > I'm sure I'm coming across in all of this as an argumentative sap. Yes.. especially since you just said your proposal wasn't meant to be taken seriously. If you want your opinions taken seriously...make serious proposals. > It's in Core. How are end users supposed to know it's a second-class > component? At what point did I call it second-class. It is a fact that kde is not highly integrated inside Fedora Core. High integrated != second-class. Because nothing from the KDE stack is needed for firstboot KDE is secondclass in your mind? The reality is many of the fedora specific pieces are gtk and gnome software stack based...gnome is deeply integrated into how Fedora Core is expected to work.. which makes updating gnome much more sensitive.. KDE is not deeply integrated into fedora specific software. Delibrately taking freedoms to change the description of the situation only helps to increase the level of mis-communication and makes you appear to be argumentative. But if you personally feel KDE is being treated as secondclass ... feel free to work with the community members who want to move KDE to Extras and maintain it there as a community effort. http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/UnleashKDE > But as an avid reader of fedora-devel for several months, I still don't > usually know what to expect from the project. It honestly feels as > though people flip-flop between the arguments that "we have to do it > for the users" and "FC is a development project" interchangeably > depending on what best justifies a course of action they want to take. Your problem is you spend too much effort trying to summarize what people are saying into parathetical that can't be attributed to a single person instead of focusing on exact quotes that can be attributed to specific individuals. You need to stop doing that... making up parathetical quotes only leads to miscommunication. If you want to quote someone or something.. quote your reference specifically and accurately... so that its clear as to you find confusing. The paretheticals used in what you wrote above are constructs of your own misunderstanding and not an accurate portrail of anything in the fedora documentation or personal discussion. There is no deep contradiction in Fedora's goals. The rate of development across the open source software stack is rapid. Fedora Core's goals invovlement incorporating those rapid upstream advances into a usable general purpose operating system to a large number of people on a time scale that is relevant to the upstream development work. Yes.. some of those relevant upstream development work involves focusing on a desktop experience that is incrementally better with every release... and as a result new desktop-user oriented development work will be incorporated into Fedora. Its a balance between staying relevant to upstream and shipping a usable set of binaries... a balance that involves compromises at the packaging level which prevent strict application of any packaging policy that you care to try to define. You aren't going to get a strict policy definition because any such policy would be arbitrary. -jef From dwalsh at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 17:43:02 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:43:02 -0500 Subject: rawhide 20060213 -- SELinux "denied" audit messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F216A6.9090104@redhat.com> Miles Lane wrote: > audit(1139851937.273:2): avc: denied { read } for pid=1303 > comm="ifconfig" name="locale-archive" dev=hda9 ino=182666 > scontext=system_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file > audit(1139851937.273:3): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=1303 > comm="ifconfig" name="locale-archive" dev=hda9 ino=182666 > scontext=system_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file > audit(1139851937.361:4): avc: denied { search } for pid=1303 > comm="ifconfig" name="locale" dev=hda9 ino=313857 > scontext=system_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=dir > audit(1139851947.254:9): avc: denied { read } for pid=1381 > comm="swapon" name="locale-archive" dev=hda9 ino=182666 > scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file > audit(1139851947.254:10): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=1381 > comm="swapon" name="locale-archive" dev=hda9 ino=182666 > scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file > audit(1139851956.586:13): avc: denied { search } for pid=1717 > comm="named-checkconf" name="locale" dev=hda9 ino=313857 > scontext=system_u:system_r:named_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=dir > > If you see file_t it is a good indicator that you need to relabel. touch /.autorelabel reboot From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 18:14:04 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:14:04 -0500 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <1139937123.8965.27.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1139937123.8965.27.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602141014r2156650fl66911020949560f1@mail.gmail.com> On 2/14/06, Jeremy Katz wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Test3TreeTesting. Much of this testing Am I reading that correct: Test Upgrade from FC4 to FC5 (if) NFS is being used? -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From jreiser at BitWagon.com Tue Feb 14 18:18:45 2006 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:18:45 -0800 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <1139937123.8965.27.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1139937123.8965.27.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43F21F05.2010404@BitWagon.com> > If you find bugs that you think would > be showstoppers for the test3 release in your testing of rawhide, please > link to them there so that we can evaluate as best as possible. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Test3TreeTesting shows "Immutable Page" so I cannot add this comment there. Recent FC5test2 kernels freeze solid "Starting udev:_" on Athlon Plain i686 with SiS 730 chipset. No reponse to any keyboard commands (including Alt+SysRq+), no oops, no recovery even after 10 minutes of waiting. strace of /sbin/udevstart stops at read() of the USB controller /sys//bus/pci/devices/0000:00.01.2/modalias . The last kernel which works is 2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5. This is reported as: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179601 -- From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 18:19:56 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:19:56 -0500 Subject: Problems with KDE and usb drive automounting In-Reply-To: <1139935258.30456.46.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> References: <604aa7910602140632w749f7003kdde56d41d7e58b3e@mail.gmail.com> <1139935258.30456.46.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602141019w122c9c30y6a8f5e7fcb358196@mail.gmail.com> On 2/14/06, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > Recent rawhide prevents HAL from starting up because of the privilege > separation (HAL now runs with dropped privileges and has a helper daemon > to execute scripts). SELinux wasn't updated to reflect this change yet. I have selinux in permissive mode on the rawhide box i use at home... so I'd be pretty surprised if this were an selinux issue. I'm getting some very odd behavior with how any hot pluggable devices are being detected in the gnome desktop. I've never had a clear picture as to how to squeeze debug information out of nautilus when nautilus fails to detect or remove devices on plugin and unplugging. -jef From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 14 18:21:23 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:51:23 +0530 Subject: Problems with KDE and usb drive automounting In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602141019w122c9c30y6a8f5e7fcb358196@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910602140632w749f7003kdde56d41d7e58b3e@mail.gmail.com> <1139935258.30456.46.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> <604aa7910602141019w122c9c30y6a8f5e7fcb358196@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F21FA3.2020203@fedoraproject.org> Jeff Spaleta wrote: >On 2/14/06, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > >>Recent rawhide prevents HAL from starting up because of the privilege >>separation (HAL now runs with dropped privileges and has a helper daemon >>to execute scripts). SELinux wasn't updated to reflect this change yet. >> >> > >I have selinux in permissive mode on the rawhide box i use at home... >so I'd be pretty surprised if this were an selinux issue. > The policy needs to be updated to be in sync with the recent HAL updates. So yes it is a SELinux related issue. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 14 18:24:05 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:54:05 +0530 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <43F21F05.2010404@BitWagon.com> References: <1139937123.8965.27.camel@bree.local.net> <43F21F05.2010404@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <43F22045.3000405@fedoraproject.org> John Reiser wrote: >>If you find bugs that you think would >>be showstoppers for the test3 release in your testing of rawhide, please >>link to them there so that we can evaluate as best as possible. >> >> > >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Test3TreeTesting shows "Immutable Page" >so I cannot add this comment there. > > You need need to be registered in the wiki and your name needs to be in the edit group for you to have write access. Refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing. Register and let me know if you need write access. >Recent FC5test2 kernels freeze solid "Starting udev:_" on Athlon Plain i686 >with SiS 730 chipset. No reponse to any keyboard commands (including >Alt+SysRq+), no oops, no recovery even after 10 minutes of waiting. >strace of /sbin/udevstart stops at read() of the USB controller >/sys//bus/pci/devices/0000:00.01.2/modalias . > > >The last kernel which works is 2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5. This is reported as: >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179601 > > > I have added your report as a potential blocker in the above wiki page. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 18:26:01 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:26:01 -0500 Subject: Problems with KDE and usb drive automounting In-Reply-To: <43F21FA3.2020203@fedoraproject.org> References: <604aa7910602140632w749f7003kdde56d41d7e58b3e@mail.gmail.com> <1139935258.30456.46.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> <604aa7910602141019w122c9c30y6a8f5e7fcb358196@mail.gmail.com> <43F21FA3.2020203@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910602141026w7c26d93q6d9675bcdcc64194@mail.gmail.com> On 2/14/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > The policy needs to be updated to be in sync with the recent HAL > updates. So yes it is a SELinux related issue. I'm sure there is a selinux related issue.. what I am unsure of is if what I've been experiencing for over a week now.. has anything to do with it. I wasn't aware that policy mismatch caused problems when i have selinux in permissive mode. I thought the whole point of permissive mode was to keep prevent policy problems from causing operation failures and to log them instead. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be pointed to a better explanation of what the different between permissive and enforcing mode is. -jef From grinnz at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 18:31:14 2006 From: grinnz at gmail.com (Dan) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:31:14 -0500 Subject: FC5 on fakeraid In-Reply-To: <1139929906.3718.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <43ED1048.5000800@gmail.com> <1139929906.3718.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43F221F2.5070601@gmail.com> Yeah, it's a RAID controller... I'm running XP and XP 64-bit off the same RAID 0 array that FC5 test 2 is currently installed on but not running. And yeah, it's test 2. I looked in the mkinitrd which was what was patched to allow initialization of dmraid in FC4, and it looks like theres some code that deals with dmraid, but for some reason the initrd can't find any partitions after grub boots it and it goes through a bunch of hardware initialization. I can try to find a bootup log using my FC4 installation if you give me a hint where to look for it. Peter Jones wrote: >On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 17:14 -0500, Dan wrote: > > >>I already posted a bug about this ( >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178079 ), but just >>throwing it out there: >>With FC5 test 2 (for x86_64 in my case), anaconda is able to install >>onto my NVRAID 0 array (one of many so-called "fakeraid" implementations >>of onboard RAID, handled by dmraid), and flawlessly too. Except, >>apparently, for grub, because booting after installation is complete >>sends me into a grub prompt. >> >> > >Does the BIOS actually have the controller listed as a "RAID" >controller, rather than an IDE controller? Usually this type of failure >means it was set up as a raid, and then the "raid" functionality was >turned off without removing the metadata. > > > >>If I use that prompt to install grub and >>reboot, I can boot my Windows installations fine, but FC5 kernel panics >>because it can't find any labeled partitions (especially /). So it now >>seems like dmraid is working in grub, but not in the startup of Fedora. >> >> > >You're sure that was test 2, not some newer rawhide snapshot? (the last >couple of days have been somewhat broken for installing on dmraid; >today's is as well, but tomorrow's should work ok for most people...) > > > From miles.lane at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 18:39:30 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:39:30 -0500 Subject: rawhide 20060213 -- SELinux "denied" audit messages In-Reply-To: <43F216A6.9090104@redhat.com> References: <43F216A6.9090104@redhat.com> Message-ID: On 2/14/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Miles Lane wrote: [...] > If you see file_t it is a good indicator that you need to relabel. > > touch /.autorelabel > reboot Okay, I tried that and now don't get file_t messages, but get many more "denied" messages: audit(1139912465.276:2): avc: denied { use } for pid=358 comm="hostname" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:hostname_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139912465.376:3): avc: denied { use } for pid=361 comm="mount" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139912466.360:4): avc: denied { use } for pid=376 comm="hwclock" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:hwclock_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139912466.360:5): avc: denied { read write } for pid=376 comm="hwclock" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:hwclock_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139930476.329:6): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1102 comm="mount" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139930476.737:7): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1107 comm="hostname" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:hostname_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139930477.293:8): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1137 comm="restorecon" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:restorecon_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139930478.173:9): avc: denied { use } for pid=1149 comm="fsck" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139930478.173:10): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1149 comm="fsck" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139930480.246:11): avc: denied { use } for pid=1190 comm="setfiles" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:setfiles_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139930480.246:12): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1190 comm="setfiles" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:setfiles_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139930714.492:13): avc: denied { relabelto } for pid=1190 comm="setfiles" name="hprof_ioname.h" dev=hda7 ino=1165495 scontext=system_u:system_r:setfiles_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139930748.482:14): avc: denied { relabelto } for pid=1190 comm="setfiles" name="ram0" dev=hda7 ino=2518213 scontext=system_u:system_r:setfiles_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=blk_file audit(1139931063.090:15): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1198 comm="ifconfig" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931071.343:20): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1260 comm="pam_console_app" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:pam_console_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931071.451:21): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1266 comm="restorecon" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:restorecon_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931071.719:22): avc: denied { use } for pid=1273 comm="swapon" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139931071.719:23): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1273 comm="swapon" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931071.727:24): avc: denied { use } for pid=1274 comm="mount" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139931071.727:25): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1274 comm="mount" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931072.607:26): avc: denied { use } for pid=1308 comm="cpuspeed" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:cpuspeed_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139931072.607:27): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1308 comm="cpuspeed" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:cpuspeed_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931072.839:28): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1344 comm="ip" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931072.999:29): avc: denied { use } for pid=1356 comm="arping" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:netutils_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139931072.999:30): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1356 comm="arping" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:netutils_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931080.071:31): avc: denied { use } for pid=1613 comm="syslogd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:syslogd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139931080.075:32): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1613 comm="syslogd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:syslogd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931080.191:33): avc: denied { use } for pid=1616 comm="klogd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:klogd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139931080.191:34): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1616 comm="klogd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:klogd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931080.371:35): avc: denied { use } for pid=1626 comm="named-checkconf" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:named_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139931080.371:36): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1626 comm="named-checkconf" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:named_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931081.483:37): avc: denied { use } for pid=1645 comm="portmap" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:portmap_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139931081.483:38): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1645 comm="portmap" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:portmap_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931081.643:39): avc: denied { use } for pid=1664 comm="rpc.statd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:rpcd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139931081.643:40): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1664 comm="rpc.statd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:rpcd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139931082.243:41): avc: denied { use } for pid=1674 comm="auditd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:auditd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139931082.243:42): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1674 comm="auditd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:auditd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file From dravet at hotmail.com Tue Feb 14 19:37:03 2006 From: dravet at hotmail.com (Jason Dravet) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:37:03 -0600 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? Message-ID: I would like to nominate the following bugs to be blockers: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=174051 anaconda does not write the grub bootloader to the MBR. The bug has been open for 3 months, but has been in existence since FC4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=174686 system-config-display always crashes with traceback. This bug has been open for 2 and half months. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=175442 visibility handling causes bad jump generation. This bug causes alot of selinux noise. Things work, but the audit.log gets full fast. I have been patiently waiting for some help on the first two and I have received little to no help so far. No one has gone near 174051 and Wade did try to help me on 174686 but s-c-d is still broken. I am disappointed that a regression such as 174686 has been allowed stay for so long. Thanks, Jason From clumens at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 19:47:55 2006 From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:47:55 -0500 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060214194755.GB2978@exeter.boston.redhat.com> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=174686 > system-config-display always crashes with traceback. This bug has been > open for 2 and half months. > > I have been patiently waiting for some help on the first two and I have > received little to no help so far. No one has gone near 174051 and Wade > did try to help me on 174686 but s-c-d is still broken. I am disappointed > that a regression such as 174686 has been allowed stay for so long. This one looks like it may be filed against the wrong component, which might explain why it hasn't gotten much movement on it. The traceback mentions rhpxl, which is a package I maintain. I'll add myself to the cc list and comment on the bug report. - Chris From jvdias at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 19:49:27 2006 From: jvdias at redhat.com (Jason Vas Dias) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:49:27 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: dhcp-3.0.2-32.FC4 Message-ID: <200602141949.k1EJnR128106@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-111 2006-02-14 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : dhcp Version : 3.0.2 Release : 32.FC4 Summary : A DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) server and relay agent. Description : DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) is a protocol which allows individual devices on an IP network to get their own network configuration information (IP address, subnetmask, broadcast address, etc.) from a DHCP server. The overall purpose of DHCP is to make it easier to administer a large network. The dhcp package includes the ISC DHCP service and relay agent. To use DHCP on your network, install a DHCP service (or relay agent), and on clients run a DHCP client daemon. The dhcp package provides the ISC DHCP service and relay agent. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 11:3.0.2-32 - fix bug 181482: resolv.conf not updated on RENEW : since dhcp-3.0.1rc12-RHScript.patch: "$new_domain_servers" should have been "$new_domain_name_servers" :-( --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 21b5b8f33dbd11ba042b9f4391441e5c46008e25 SRPMS/dhcp-3.0.2-32.FC4.src.rpm e5952e31efa336c619adbabe37f1d13c84422f05 ppc/dhcp-3.0.2-32.FC4.ppc.rpm 78bf8bdb5182f978e40f0fa7c92265ae1bc328ea ppc/dhclient-3.0.2-32.FC4.ppc.rpm 4f6cabf1311a601eb567e2cbfdb4cd4276cab3a0 ppc/dhcp-devel-3.0.2-32.FC4.ppc.rpm 33cc07bae919063821456417fabc13b0770f685f ppc/debug/dhcp-debuginfo-3.0.2-32.FC4.ppc.rpm 1a1b83f9ed8c7469270b071955b6e77b87615a43 x86_64/dhcp-3.0.2-32.FC4.x86_64.rpm cb29eb0c64f25d285a3641b2e90e14dc38c88468 x86_64/dhclient-3.0.2-32.FC4.x86_64.rpm dda2ac4da2fc509e981e81d845739930adcdc5bf x86_64/dhcp-devel-3.0.2-32.FC4.x86_64.rpm 7e51fccb85679409f23363baad7529f2c89ffb56 x86_64/debug/dhcp-debuginfo-3.0.2-32.FC4.x86_64.rpm dc8a1bc125dac03e6c20e95fbff95eac1db277b8 i386/dhcp-3.0.2-32.FC4.i386.rpm a7663bafc49f26630785375cc7c85a65cd71f581 i386/dhclient-3.0.2-32.FC4.i386.rpm c25173fd8040979fe12c849e377194c0c3b28bda i386/dhcp-devel-3.0.2-32.FC4.i386.rpm a1b1cd11ec2a2a8e0df58cde11cb35447da97e65 i386/debug/dhcp-debuginfo-3.0.2-32.FC4.i386.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 14 19:49:37 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:19:37 +0530 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F23451.7010307@fedoraproject.org> Jason Dravet wrote: > I would like to nominate the following bugs to be blockers: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=174051 > anaconda does not write the grub bootloader to the MBR. The bug has > been open for 3 months, but has been in existence since FC4. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=174686 > system-config-display always crashes with traceback. This bug has > been open for 2 and half months. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=175442 > visibility handling causes bad jump generation. This bug causes alot > of selinux noise. Things work, but the audit.log gets full fast. > > I have been patiently waiting for some help on the first two and I > have received little to no help so far. No one has gone near 174051 > and Wade did try to help me on 174686 but s-c-d is still broken. I am > disappointed that a regression such as 174686 has been allowed stay > for so long. > You wouldnt be so disappointed if you realize that this is a development release and none of these seem to be generic making it harder to reproduce and fix this problem. For example, installing anaconda FC5 test releases have installed and configured GRUB properly on my system and system-config-display works fine for me. So I cannot confirm either of these issues. Repeating the same query in bugzilla is not going to get responses faster. Posting in the fedora-devel list asking if anyone has the same issue might help. Posting the list of bug reports like you did is also a good idea. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From kfischer at bfki.net Tue Feb 14 20:18:33 2006 From: kfischer at bfki.net (Karsten Fischer) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:18:33 +0100 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <1139937123.8965.27.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1139937123.8965.27.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1139948313.2450.3.camel@video.bfki.net> Am Dienstag, den 14.02.2006, 12:12 -0500 schrieb Jeremy Katz: > As we work towards getting FC5 test3 ready for public release, there's a > fair bit of testing that we want to get done to help ensure that test3 > is as good as it can be. To try to make this process a little bit more > open and let people who want to help find testing tasks, I've created > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Test3TreeTesting. Much of this testing > can be done with today's rawhide tree, so if you want to jump in and > help, update the testing matrix. If you find bugs that you think would > be showstoppers for the test3 release in your testing of rawhide, please > link to them there so that we can evaluate as best as possible. > > Any questions, ask away here or by popping into #fedora-devel on > irc.freenode.net > > Jeremy I got todays upgrade, everything seems to work fine - except Evolution, the fairly old - 2-3 weeks, I think - problem if you try to print from within Evolution it crashes. Which I think is a showstopper. -- Karsten Fischer From trulsg at broadpark.no Tue Feb 14 20:27:40 2006 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:27:40 +0100 Subject: Update problem Message-ID: <1139948860.13818.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have the past couple of days tried to update my TC5t2 but it all hangs and Yum return the following errors: -------------- ^ /var/lib/scrollkeeper/es/scrollkeeper_extended_cl.xml:882: parser error : Premature end of data in tag doc line 866 Administrar perfile ^ /var/lib/scrollkeeper/es/scrollkeeper_extended_cl.xml:882: parser error : Premature end of data in tag sect line 665 Administrar perfile ^ /var/lib/scrollkeeper/es/scrollkeeper_extended_cl.xml:882: parser error : Premature end of data in tag sect line 545 Administrar perfile ^ /var/lib/scrollkeeper/es/scrollkeeper_extended_cl.xml:882: parser error : Premature end of data in tag sect line 504 Administrar perfile ^ /var/lib/scrollkeeper/es/scrollkeeper_extended_cl.xml:882: parser error : Premature end of data in tag ScrollKeeperContentsList line 2 Administrar perfile --------------- and it goes on and on. Any assistance for me out there? Regards, Truls From don_springall at hotmail.com Tue Feb 14 19:52:34 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:52:34 -0700 Subject: Stable vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing period? Message-ID: >From: Jeff Spaleta >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: Stable vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing >period? >Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:18:16 -0500 >There is no deep contradiction in Fedora's goals. The rate of >development across the open source software stack is rapid. Fedora >Core's goals invovlement incorporating those rapid upstream advances >into a usable general purpose operating system to a large number of >people on a time scale that is relevant to the upstream development >work. Yes.. some of those relevant upstream development work involves >focusing on a desktop experience that is incrementally better with >every release... and as a result new desktop-user oriented development >work will be incorporated into Fedora. > The problem is not that there are rapid upstream advances. The problem is that when things like udev, hal or xserver breaks it exceeds the experience level of a large segment of testers and users to recover from. Here are my thoughts on what I think may help: 1. A daily blog from Redhat explaining how to get around today's oops. Something that is tided to that days build report and updated as the day goes along if the initial solution is wrong or some better workaround is found. Something which is as proactive as time allows. Perhaps with an RSS feed for that post. 2. Tutorials in online documentation on how to: - use the recovery CD - how to boot into runlevel 3 to start x manually - how to run a trace in Gnome and KDE - how to build a exclude list for yum update based on rpm queries on your system - IE a trouble shooting guide specific to Fedora that keeps up with the changes in rawhide 3. A utility that everyone runs and attaches the output from to their posts about bugs that captures your kernel version, default window manager and release level, your chipset, Video card, network card and other essential hardware info to speed debuging. 4. A rapid move to virtulization so rawhide is only run as a guest OS and nuked when badly broken unless you are an experienced kernel level developer with years of experience. From miles.lane at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 20:44:00 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:44:00 -0500 Subject: rawhide 20060213 -- SELinux "denied" audit messages In-Reply-To: References: <43F216A6.9090104@redhat.com> Message-ID: Hi, When I enforce SELinux, my network devices don't get configured (ifconfig shows only the loopback device). From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 14 20:48:02 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:18:02 +0530 Subject: Stable vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F24202.1000707@fedoraproject.org> Hi >> > The problem is not that there are rapid upstream advances. The problem > is that when things like udev, hal or xserver breaks it exceeds the > experience level of a large segment of testers and users to recover from. > > Here are my thoughts on what I think may help: > 1. A daily blog from Redhat explaining how to get around today's > oops. Something that is tided to that days build report and updated as > the day goes along if the initial solution is wrong or some better > workaround is found. Something which is as proactive as time allows. > Perhaps with an RSS feed for that post. The workarounds if any are posted and discussed in this list and fedora-devel list already. If anyone wishes to blog about them sign up in http://fedoraproject.org/people. > > 2. Tutorials in online documentation on how to: > - use the recovery CD > - how to boot into runlevel 3 to start x manually > - how to run a trace in Gnome and KDE > - how to build a exclude list for yum update based on rpm queries on > your system > - IE a trouble shooting guide specific to Fedora that keeps up with > the changes in rawhide Can you help with any of these?. Kindly get involved in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject. There are already several drafts and ideas you can help with and improve. > 3. A utility that everyone runs and attaches the output from to their > posts about bugs that captures your kernel version, default window > manager and release level, your chipset, Video card, network card and > other essential hardware info to speed debuging. On progress. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Schedule > 4. A rapid move to virtulization so rawhide is only run as a guest OS > and nuked when badly broken unless you are an experienced kernel level > developer with years of experience. On progress. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/xen -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 14 20:48:53 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:18:53 +0530 Subject: rawhide 20060213 -- SELinux "denied" audit messages In-Reply-To: References: <43F216A6.9090104@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43F24235.6060200@fedoraproject.org> Miles Lane wrote: >Hi, > >When I enforce SELinux, my network devices don't get configured >(ifconfig shows only the loopback device). > > Do you get any AVC denied messages?. Check the trouble shooting steps in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELinux and file a bug report. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From henrik at alchre.org Tue Feb 14 20:56:18 2006 From: henrik at alchre.org (Henrik Mattsson) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:56:18 +0100 Subject: Stable vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: <43F24202.1000707@fedoraproject.org> References: <43F24202.1000707@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43F243F2.5020606@alchre.org> >> 4. A rapid move to virtulization so rawhide is only run as a guest OS >> and nuked when badly broken unless you are an experienced kernel >> level developer with years of experience. > On progress. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/xen In the mean time, vmware player and the FC5test2 image from http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/ might come in handy. /Henrik From katzj at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 21:03:34 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:03:34 -0500 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602141014r2156650fl66911020949560f1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1139937123.8965.27.camel@bree.local.net> <91f88ee20602141014r2156650fl66911020949560f1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1139951014.21982.4.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 13:14 -0500, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > On 2/14/06, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Test3TreeTesting. Much of this testing > > Am I reading that correct: Test Upgrade from FC4 to FC5 (if) NFS is being used? Testing upgrades in general would be good as that's an area that gets significantly less coverage. Paul is just testing via NFS as that ends up being easiest with our internal infrastructure Jeremy From katzj at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 21:18:09 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:18:09 -0500 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <1139948313.2450.3.camel@video.bfki.net> References: <1139937123.8965.27.camel@bree.local.net> <1139948313.2450.3.camel@video.bfki.net> Message-ID: <1139951889.21982.7.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 21:18 +0100, Karsten Fischer wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 14.02.2006, 12:12 -0500 schrieb Jeremy Katz: > > As we work towards getting FC5 test3 ready for public release, there's a > > fair bit of testing that we want to get done to help ensure that test3 > > is as good as it can be. To try to make this process a little bit more > > open and let people who want to help find testing tasks, I've created > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Test3TreeTesting. Much of this testing > > can be done with today's rawhide tree, so if you want to jump in and > > help, update the testing matrix. If you find bugs that you think would > > be showstoppers for the test3 release in your testing of rawhide, please > > link to them there so that we can evaluate as best as possible. > > > > Any questions, ask away here or by popping into #fedora-devel on > > irc.freenode.net > I got todays upgrade, everything seems to work fine - except Evolution, > the fairly old - 2-3 weeks, I think - problem if you try to print from > within Evolution it crashes. Which I think is a showstopper. I'll agree that it's a showstopper for the final release, but have a hard time justifying it blocking the test release (especially as it was I think broken for test2 as well). Jeremy From miles.lane at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 21:19:42 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:19:42 -0500 Subject: rawhide 20060213 -- SELinux "denied" audit messages In-Reply-To: <43F24235.6060200@fedoraproject.org> References: <43F216A6.9090104@redhat.com> <43F24235.6060200@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Hello Rahul, Yes, I have a TON of AVC messages. I looked at the SELinux troubleshooting information, and didn't find it very helpful. It talks about AVC messages, but doesn't cover my situation, afaict. The list of messages below were generated and "touch /.autorelabel", reboot, and with SELinux in permissive mode (I'll file a bug report): audit(1139919738.940:2): avc: denied { use } for pid=358 comm="hostname" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:hostname_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139919739.196:3): avc: denied { use } for pid=361 comm="mount" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139919740.124:4): avc: denied { use } for pid=376 comm="hwclock" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:hwclock_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139919740.124:5): avc: denied { read write } for pid=376 comm="hwclock" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:hwclock_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937746.754:6): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1105 comm="mount" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937747.138:7): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1110 comm="hostname" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:hostname_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937747.702:8): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1140 comm="restorecon" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:restorecon_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937748.566:9): avc: denied { use } for pid=1152 comm="fsck" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139937748.566:10): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1152 comm="fsck" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937977.245:11): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1182 comm="ifconfig" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937979.705:12): avc: granted { execmem } for pid=1188 comm="Xorg" scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_xserver_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_xserver_t:s0 tclass=process audit(1139937979.705:13): avc: granted { execmem } for pid=1188 comm="Xorg" scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_xserver_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_xserver_t:s0 tclass=process audit(1139937979.705:14): avc: granted { execmem } for pid=1188 comm="Xorg" scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_xserver_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_xserver_t:s0 tclass=process audit(1139937979.705:15): avc: granted { execmem } for pid=1188 comm="Xorg" scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_xserver_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_xserver_t:s0 tclass=process audit(1139937986.313:16): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1243 comm="pam_console_app" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:pam_console_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937986.825:17): avc: denied { use } for pid=1257 comm="mount" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139937988.017:18): avc: denied { use } for pid=1291 comm="cpuspeed" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:cpuspeed_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139937988.017:19): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1291 comm="cpuspeed" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:cpuspeed_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937988.657:20): avc: denied { use } for pid=1339 comm="arping" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:netutils_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139937988.657:21): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1339 comm="arping" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:netutils_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937995.542:22): avc: denied { use } for pid=1577 comm="syslogd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:syslogd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139937995.542:23): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1577 comm="syslogd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:syslogd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937995.666:24): avc: denied { use } for pid=1580 comm="klogd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:klogd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139937995.666:25): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1580 comm="klogd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:klogd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937995.970:26): avc: denied { use } for pid=1590 comm="named-checkconf" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:named_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139937995.970:27): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1590 comm="named-checkconf" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:named_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937997.354:28): avc: denied { use } for pid=1609 comm="portmap" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:portmap_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139937997.354:29): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1609 comm="portmap" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:portmap_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937997.542:30): avc: denied { use } for pid=1628 comm="rpc.statd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:rpcd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139937997.542:31): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1628 comm="rpc.statd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:rpcd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file audit(1139937998.398:32): avc: denied { use } for pid=1638 comm="auditd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:auditd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 tclass=fd audit(1139937998.398:33): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1638 comm="auditd" name="ptmx" dev=tmpfs ino=769 scontext=system_u:system_r:auditd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ptmx_t:s0 tclass=chr_file From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 21:20:59 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:20:59 -0500 Subject: Stable vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa7910602141320y3f9083c4m6b4ba9dfe93f8020@mail.gmail.com> On 2/14/06, Don Springall wrote: > Here are my thoughts on what I think may help: > 1. A daily blog from Redhat explaining how to get around today's >oops. Don't you mean yesterday's oops? How exactly do we know they are oops until people experience them? I don't see how you can pre-emptively cover expected problems before rawhide consumers hit them. I really don't think you gain much from this, but you are certaintly free to attempt organization of this sort of thing. If all the Core developers had blogs that exported a special "Rawhide ate my baby" category.. you could easily aggregate a feed for this specific purpose. But you'd have to convince them to consistently use their blog and I'm not sure how you do that. > Something that is tided to that days build report and updated as the > day > goes along if the initial solution is wrong or some better workaround is > found. I think you'll have to start this as a breaking news item from the lists and forums and run it as a community blog initially and invite developers to add their own "Rawhide ate my baby" feeds over time. > 2. Tutorials in online documentation on how to: > - use the recovery CD There's a docs subproject... care to start writing that document? > - how to boot into runlevel 3 to start x manually There's a docs subproject... care to start writting that document? > - how to run a trace in Gnome and KDE That exists to some degree... http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces Feel free to add to it. > - how to build a exclude list for yum update based on rpm queries on > your system Feel free to add additional items under Tips and Tricks in: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/yum > - IE a trouble shooting guide specific to Fedora that keeps up with the > changes in rawhide I wrote a personal manifesto at one point concerning testing...but a much more organized attempt has been started in the meantime. Feel free to help with... http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide > 3. A utility that everyone runs and attaches the output from to their > posts about bugs that captures your kernel version, default window > manager and release level, your chipset, Video card, network card > and other essential hardware info to speed debuging. Already discussed in -test-list... are you volunteering to write it? Many people think this is a good idea... someone has to volunteer their time to make it happen. Are you that person? > 4. A rapid move to virtulization so rawhide is only run as a guest OS > and nuked when badly broken unless you are an experienced kernel > level developer with years of experience. The pace of integration of xen into fedora isn't fast enough for you? Would you prefer xen stay out of the "stable" tree until its more polished and better documented? I sense some deep contradicts in you opinions as to where Fedora should draw the line between being aggressive about introducing technologies and being conservative in their introduction to save users/testers the pain of learning new technologies. You can't have it both ways. I look forward to your contribution to the Fedora Docs subproject since you seem to have identified some particular new items to contribute there. Thank you for volunteering your time and helping to write better documentation for all the testers and users out there! -jef -jef"Virtualization is nice and all for certain things...but unless testers run rawhide on actual hardware can you be sure hardware specific bugs that affect non-virtualized installs are going to bite and bite hard when the final release is unveiled."spaleta From katzj at redhat.com Tue Feb 14 21:25:08 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:25:08 -0500 Subject: rawhide 20060213 -- SELinux "denied" audit messages In-Reply-To: References: <43F216A6.9090104@redhat.com> <43F24235.6060200@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1139952308.21982.9.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 16:19 -0500, Miles Lane wrote: > Yes, I have a TON of AVC messages. I looked at the SELinux > troubleshooting information, and didn't find it very helpful. It > talks about AVC messages, but doesn't cover my situation, afaict. The > list of messages below were generated and "touch /.autorelabel", > reboot, and with SELinux in permissive mode (I'll file a bug report): Looks like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=181515 Jeremy From miles.lane at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 21:49:03 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:49:03 -0500 Subject: rawhide 20060213 -- SELinux "denied" audit messages In-Reply-To: <1139952308.21982.9.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> References: <43F216A6.9090104@redhat.com> <43F24235.6060200@fedoraproject.org> <1139952308.21982.9.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: On 2/14/06, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 16:19 -0500, Miles Lane wrote: > > Yes, I have a TON of AVC messages. I looked at the SELinux > > troubleshooting information, and didn't find it very helpful. It > > talks about AVC messages, but doesn't cover my situation, afaict. The > > list of messages below were generated and "touch /.autorelabel", > > reboot, and with SELinux in permissive mode (I'll file a bug report): > > Looks like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=181515 Thanks Jeremy. That does look like the culprit. I guess I'll wait for a fixed mkinitrd package to be released and then test with SELinux enforced. Hopefully all my devices will work, then. Miles From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Feb 14 22:21:11 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:21:11 -0500 Subject: Install report - rawhide of 2006-02-14 Message-ID: <20060214222111.GA24118@wolves.durham.nc.us> I'm in the process of installing today's rawhide onto the work1 test machine. Fresh everything, remove all partitions, customize the installed software, etc. So far, its now in the process of installing the selected packages via NFS from a local mirror. No problems encountered yet. work1: Celeron (Coppermine) Pentium 3 @ 600 MHz, 256 MiB RAM, ~6GB IDE disk space, Trident Cyberblade/i1 AGP video, VIA chipset, RTL Ethernet, LiteOn CDRW and LiteOn DVD+R (ro). ZIP drive, floppy, ps/2 trackball, pc104 keyboard, etc... -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U Hug your wolfe today! The Line Eater is a boojum! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bshotts at panix.com Tue Feb 14 22:35:54 2006 From: bshotts at panix.com (William Shotts) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:35:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Problems with floppy mounting after today's update Message-ID: <51889.69.139.155.62.1139956554.squirrel@mail.panix.com> After today's HAL update floppy mounting started to work again which is good. However if you mount floppies in Konqueror you get two mount points and the context menu for the floppy device never displays an "unmount" option. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=181483 From patrick at wudika.de Tue Feb 14 23:12:29 2006 From: patrick at wudika.de (Patrick von der Hagen) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:12:29 +0100 Subject: Problem when configuring display during FC5T2-install Message-ID: <43F263DD.10706@wudika.de> Hi all, I installed FC5T2 on my Dell-notebook but my display was not detected correctly. 800*600 wasn't quite what I expected. ;-) I tried to change the display during installation, but failed. No window was presented to me and the installer stopped responding to mouse or keyboard. The only thing that still worked was alt+tab, which showed the borders of a second window, but I could not access it. Perhaps a second window opened, but was hidden by the installer? After rebooting the system, installation was started again, I accepted 800*600, finished installation and changed to a decent resolution using system-config-display. Bugzilla showed no reports regarding this issue, but sadly, I never succeed in finding relevant information in bugzilla.... I suppose auto-detection usually works, so manual display-configuration is seldom needed, but perhaps someone can try manual configuration when doing the next installation to verify my experience? -- CU, Patrick. From bshotts at panix.com Wed Feb 15 00:29:46 2006 From: bshotts at panix.com (William Shotts) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:29:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Are gaim file transfers working? Message-ID: <42046.69.139.155.62.1139963386.squirrel@mail.panix.com> I am able to receive files through gaim but unable to transmit. Anybody got this working? Thanks. ||||| William Shotts, Jr. (bshotts AT panix DOT com) ||||| Be a Linux Commander! Follow me to http://linuxcommand.org ||||| See my photography! http://www.williamshottsphotography.com From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Wed Feb 15 00:41:04 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:41:04 -0500 Subject: install report - rawhide 2006-02-14 - Firstboot won't run Message-ID: <20060215004104.GA26326@wolves.durham.nc.us> This machine has a known slow response when getting firstboot to run, but this time uping the timeout to 25 seconds doesn't cure the problem. As soon as I click the "Forward" button to start the firstboot process, the window closes and reports "Can't communicate with Window Manager." Trying to run firstboot from the command line in a root terminal window also fails with a "Could not start any firstboot interface" RunTimeError This is trying to run firstboot *without* having RHGB in the install mix. Yes, I deliberately unchecked RHGB in the customize software window of the install process. [I personally don't like the graphical boot monitors of any ilk.] Do y'all want me to reopen the firstboot bug that was closed (#176782) or start a new bug? -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Wed Feb 15 01:56:55 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:56:55 -0500 Subject: Suspend again In-Reply-To: <1139918431.2572.4.camel@billmurray.pp.rl.ac.uk> References: <1139918431.2572.4.camel@billmurray.pp.rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <43F28A67.7090602@insight.rr.com> William John Murray wrote: > Hello all, I am confused by suspend. Does ANYONE have it working in > FC5T2? For FC4 I follow the instructions at http://mhensler.de/swsusp > and all is dandy. For FC5 I have no luck yet. I have sata disks, > which once meant that a kernel patch was required. Is it stil? My > results: > I don't think the chances are too high. The gnome-power-manager feature has been disabled and right or left click with the mouse on the applet shows the same menus. If it would work, I doubt that the feature would not be masked. Jim -- Today you'll start getting heavy metal radio on your dentures. From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Wed Feb 15 02:20:06 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:20:06 -0500 Subject: suspend working (again), but hibernate still broken In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F28FD6.4060303@insight.rr.com> Neal Becker wrote: > pm-hibernate > > > GNU GRUB version 0.97 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory) > > [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB > lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible > completions of a device/filename.] > grub> savedefault --default=0 --once > grub> /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate: line 24: echo: write error: No such device > > Feb 14 11:02:09 localhost kernel: swsusp: Cannot find swap device, try swapon -a > > This used to work, and I do have a swap device. > > cat /proc/swaps > Filename Type Size Used Priority > /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol01 partition 2031608 0 -1 > > I get similar results with swap on an extended partition. cat /proc/swaps Filename Type Size Used Priority/dev/hda5 partition 819272 0 -1 [jim at cornette-lt ~]$ pm-hibernate GNU GRUB version 0.97 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory) [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename.] grub> savedefault --default=0 grub> index=2 --once Error 27: Unrecognized command grub> /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate: line 24: echo: write error: No such device -- Today you'll start getting heavy metal radio on your dentures. From berryja at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 05:06:07 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:06:07 -0600 Subject: SELinux and NSS [was: Problem with NSS update - Firefox, Evolution] In-Reply-To: <43F0BD88.2070200@redhat.com> References: <8767947e0601281249w13ed78d9n509371d7fd8b7b59@mail.gmail.com> <43E020A8.5020706@redhat.com> <8767947e0602032205t58ef1e2fs21b2e19dd989c74d@mail.gmail.com> <43E77F6D.3060104@redhat.com> <8767947e0602101921m14e6d08dtd7f10696241741be@mail.gmail.com> <43F0BD88.2070200@redhat.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602142106o3d8be849ue7610a97cad98902@mail.gmail.com> On 2/13/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: [snip] > Try setsebool -P allow_execstack=1 Yes, this allows both Firefox and Evolution to start up normally. What exactly does this do? Doesn't appear to be a very security conscious fix. Does this just mean that NSS needs an executable stack and wasn't given one? Jonathan From berryja at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 05:19:49 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:19:49 -0600 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates Message-ID: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Just finished the 1.0 GB update (fun stuff...) and rebooted. Upon boot, kudzu segfaulted and haldaemon refused to start. Checking for hardware changes/etc/init.d/kudzu: line 23: 2975 Segmentation fault /sbin/kudzu $KUDZU_ARGS (...why does the error say line 23 when /sbin/kudzu $KUDZU_ARGS is on line 30? Is that just a side effect of the case statement?) Starting HAL daemon: [FAILED] Rawhide, x86_64. I don't know much more to say about it than that. Any ideas? The good news is the new kernel does not have problems with Java anymore (as recently noted in the related bugzilla). Jonathan From notting at redhat.com Wed Feb 15 05:54:08 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:54:08 -0500 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060215055408.GA10227@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Jonathan Berry (berryja at gmail.com) said: > Rawhide, x86_64. I don't know much more to say about it than that. Any ideas? Can you install kudzu-debuginfo and get a backtrace? Bill From amellan at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 06:32:58 2006 From: amellan at gmail.com (Alain Mellan) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:32:58 -0800 Subject: Suspend again In-Reply-To: <43F28A67.7090602@insight.rr.com> References: <1139918431.2572.4.camel@billmurray.pp.rl.ac.uk> <43F28A67.7090602@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <95ac75570602142232x3f18bdffo6f981d0fdbea92f7@mail.gmail.com> Hibernate works right out of the box for me. -- alain. From fabio.comolli at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 07:34:57 2006 From: fabio.comolli at gmail.com (Fabio Comolli) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:34:57 +0100 Subject: Problems with KDE and usb drive automounting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's fixed in latest rawhide. Thanks. Fabio On 2/14/06, Fabio Comolli wrote: > Hi. > I'm faceing a strange issue. I have two laptops, one running FC4 and > the other running latest rawhide. Both run KDE 3.5.1 > > The second one doesn't automount pendrives or usb external drives, > whilst the laptop running FC4 works perfectly. > > I debugged udev and it seems it's not its fault: device nodes are > created correctly; however the /media directory is always empty. HAL > is installed and running. > > Can anyone help me? > Thanks, > Fabio > From bilhega at gruposertanejo.com.br Wed Feb 15 11:08:35 2006 From: bilhega at gruposertanejo.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Carlos_Bilhega_Jr.?=) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:08:35 -0300 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <1139951014.21982.4.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060215101643.3D7E52485F@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> Everyday I?m getting the boot.iso (also tried with rescuecd.iso) in the development area (at download.fedora.redhat.com) and trying an ftp install on ppc64 machine, and the anaconda doesn?t start. Is there another way to make install tests ? running ananconda, the Fedora Core system installer - please wait... install exited abnormally sending termination signals...done sending Kill signals...done disabling swap... unmounting filesystems... /mnt/runtime done disabling /dev/loop0 /proc done /dev/pts done /sys done /tmp/ramfs done /selinux done Machine IBM eServer pSeries 620 Model 6F1 PowerPC 64bits, SCSI disks Bilhega, JC From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Wed Feb 15 11:31:41 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:31:41 -0500 Subject: Suspend again In-Reply-To: <95ac75570602142232x3f18bdffo6f981d0fdbea92f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <1139918431.2572.4.camel@billmurray.pp.rl.ac.uk> <43F28A67.7090602@insight.rr.com> <95ac75570602142232x3f18bdffo6f981d0fdbea92f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F3111D.6080404@insight.rr.com> Alain Mellan wrote: > Hibernate works right out of the box for me. > > -- alain. > What type of processor do you have? (amd, intel)? cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 6 model : 8 model name : mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP1800+ stepping : 0 cpu MHz : 530.080 cache size : 256 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mp mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow ts fid vid bogomips : 1061.16 What partitioning scheme do you have? fdisk -l Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4864 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/hda2 14 2124 16956607+ 83 Linux /dev/hda3 2125 3399 10241437+ 83 Linux /dev/hda4 3400 4864 11767612+ 5 Extended /dev/hda5 3400 3501 819283+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/hda6 3502 4864 10948266 83 Linux From shrek-m at gmx.de Wed Feb 15 11:37:18 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:37:18 +0100 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <20060215101643.3D7E52485F@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> References: <20060215101643.3D7E52485F@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> Message-ID: <43F3126E.7090805@gmx.de> On 15.02.2006 12:08, Jos? Carlos Bilhega Jr. wrote: >Everyday I?m getting the boot.iso (also tried with rescuecd.iso) in the >development area (at download.fedora.redhat.com) and trying an ftp install >on ppc64 machine, and the anaconda doesn?t start. Is there another way to >make install tests ? > >running ananconda, the Fedora Core system installer - please wait... >install exited abnormally >sending termination signals...done >sending Kill signals...done >disabling swap... >unmounting filesystems... > /mnt/runtime done > disabling /dev/loop0 > /proc done > /dev/pts done > /sys done > /tmp/ramfs done > /selinux done > > no problem here http-install powermac g5 ppc64 sata "linux text askmethod video=ofonly" rawhide-TEST-ppc-rescuecd.iso -- 20060215 rawhide-TEST-ppc-rescuecd.iso -- 20060208 >Machine IBM eServer pSeries 620 Model 6F1 PowerPC 64bits, SCSI disks > fc4 images/pseries/boot.iso http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/ppc/os/images/ http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/ppc/os/images/pseries/boot.iso does not exist in rawhide http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/ppc/os/images/ http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/images/iSeries/boot.img -- shrek-m From shrek-m at gmx.de Wed Feb 15 11:49:40 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:49:40 +0100 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <43F3126E.7090805@gmx.de> References: <20060215101643.3D7E52485F@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> <43F3126E.7090805@gmx.de> Message-ID: <43F31554.2070600@gmx.de> >> Machine IBM eServer pSeries 620 Model 6F1 PowerPC 64bits, SCSI disks > > does not exist in rawhide > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/ppc/os/images/ sorry should be: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/images/ > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/images/iSeries/boot.img apropos, the relase notes are not uptodate http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/RELEASE-NOTES Fedora Core 4 Release Notes [...] - images/pseries/boot.iso - 64-bit IBM? eServer? pSeries? (POWER4/POWER5) -- shrek-m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 15 11:58:39 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:28:39 +0530 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <43F31554.2070600@gmx.de> References: <20060215101643.3D7E52485F@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> <43F3126E.7090805@gmx.de> <43F31554.2070600@gmx.de> Message-ID: <43F3176F.6080306@fedoraproject.org> Hi > > > apropos, the relase notes are not uptodate > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/RELEASE-NOTES > Will be updated for FC5 test3. The content is maintained in http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com and in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats. Previews are available at http://webtest.fedora.redhat.com/docs/ when they are tagged appropriately. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From netwiz at crc.id.au Wed Feb 15 12:40:41 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:40:41 +1100 (EST) Subject: Unbootable kernels... Message-ID: <56693.203.56.246.92.1140007241.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> I've been having a lot of trouble with the recent kernels getting them to boot at all. The current kernel-2.6.15-1.1939_FC5 kernel doesn't boot and crashes. The latest stable version of the kernel I've managed to boot from has been kernel-2.6.15-1.1824_FC4. I've filed it on bugzilla, but no major changes as yet. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179714 Anyone else having these issues? -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From bilhega at gruposertanejo.com.br Wed Feb 15 15:50:11 2006 From: bilhega at gruposertanejo.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Carlos_Bilhega_Jr.?=) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:50:11 -0300 Subject: RES: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <43F3126E.7090805@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20060215145834.DC4A024636@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> With the FC5-test2-ppc-boot.iso (12-jan-06) the anaconda installer works fine in my machine. -----Mensagem original----- De: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] Em nome de shrek-m at gmx.de Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2006 08:37 Para: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Assunto: Re: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? On 15.02.2006 12:08, Jos? Carlos Bilhega Jr. wrote: >Everyday I?m getting the boot.iso (also tried with rescuecd.iso) in the >development area (at download.fedora.redhat.com) and trying an ftp >install on ppc64 machine, and the anaconda doesn?t start. Is there >another way to make install tests ? > >running ananconda, the Fedora Core system installer - please wait... >install exited abnormally >sending termination signals...done >sending Kill signals...done >disabling swap... >unmounting filesystems... > /mnt/runtime done > disabling /dev/loop0 > /proc done > /dev/pts done > /sys done > /tmp/ramfs done > /selinux done > > no problem here http-install powermac g5 ppc64 sata "linux text askmethod video=ofonly" rawhide-TEST-ppc-rescuecd.iso -- 20060215 rawhide-TEST-ppc-rescuecd.iso -- 20060208 >Machine IBM eServer pSeries 620 Model 6F1 PowerPC 64bits, SCSI disks > fc4 images/pseries/boot.iso http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/ppc/os/images/ http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/ppc/os/images/pser ies/boot.iso does not exist in rawhide http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/ppc/os/images/ http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/imag es/iSeries/boot.img -- shrek-m -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From netwiz at crc.id.au Wed Feb 15 15:24:53 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 02:24:53 +1100 (EST) Subject: Errors running yum update? Checksum matching issue? Message-ID: <45351.203.56.246.92.1140017093.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Todays updates are giving me a hell of a lot of errors like: (6/32): libsepol-1.11.14- 100% |=========================| 131 kB 00:01 http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/libsepol-1.11.14-2.i386.rpm: [Errno -1] Package does not match checksum Has anyone else come across this? What's the deal? I've never seen this happen before. I've done a 'yum clean all' and tried again - but I keep getting these messages again and again and again. -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From bgerst at didntduck.org Wed Feb 15 16:01:42 2006 From: bgerst at didntduck.org (Brian Gerst) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:01:42 -0500 Subject: Errors running yum update? Checksum matching issue? In-Reply-To: <45351.203.56.246.92.1140017093.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <45351.203.56.246.92.1140017093.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <43F35066.7050907@didntduck.org> Steven Haigh wrote: > Todays updates are giving me a hell of a lot of errors like: > > (6/32): libsepol-1.11.14- 100% |=========================| 131 kB 00:01 > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/libsepol-1.11.14-2.i386.rpm: > [Errno -1] Package does not match checksum > > Has anyone else come across this? What's the deal? I've never seen this > happen before. I've done a 'yum clean all' and tried again - but I keep > getting these messages again and again and again. > Looks like alot of corrupt headers: SDL-1.2.9-5.2.1.x86_64.rp 100% |=========================| 11 kB 00:00 http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/x86_64/Fedora/RPMS/SDL-1.2.9-5.2.1.x86_64.rpm: [Errno -1] Header is not complete. The packages themselves are ok, if installed directly with rpm. -- Brian Gerst From katzj at redhat.com Wed Feb 15 16:37:29 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:37:29 -0500 Subject: install report - rawhide 2006-02-14 - Firstboot won't run In-Reply-To: <20060215004104.GA26326@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20060215004104.GA26326@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <1140021449.12083.17.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 19:41 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > Do y'all want me to reopen the firstboot bug that was closed (#176782) > or start a new bug? If you could file a new one that would be great. Thanks for the ongoing testing reports! Jeremy From pnasrat at redhat.com Wed Feb 15 16:38:53 2006 From: pnasrat at redhat.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:38:53 -0500 Subject: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <20060215101643.3D7E52485F@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> References: <20060215101643.3D7E52485F@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> Message-ID: <1140021533.2824.9.camel@enki.eridu> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 08:08 -0300, Jos? Carlos Bilhega Jr. wrote: > Everyday I?m getting the boot.iso (also tried with rescuecd.iso) in the > development area (at download.fedora.redhat.com) and trying an ftp install > on ppc64 machine, and the anaconda doesn?t start. Is there another way to > make install tests ? Can you try an nfs install? > running ananconda, the Fedora Core system installer - please wait... > install exited abnormally > sending termination signals...done > sending Kill signals...done > disabling swap... > unmounting filesystems... > > Machine IBM eServer pSeries 620 Model 6F1 PowerPC 64bits, SCSI disks I've tested various ppc64 machines (g5, blades, POWER3) here and they all installed fine. I'll see if I can reproduce on a p630 here. Are you booting with linux64 to ensure you are getting the ppc64 kernel. Paul From orion at cora.nwra.com Wed Feb 15 16:44:07 2006 From: orion at cora.nwra.com (Orion Poplawski) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:44:07 -0700 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jonathan Berry wrote: > > Starting HAL daemon: [FAILED] > > Rawhide, x86_64. I don't know much more to say about it than that. Any ideas? On my system this is an selinux issue: Feb 15 09:39:12 cynosure kernel: audit(1140021552.076:122): avc: denied { setgid } for pid=3927 comm="hald" capability=6 scontext=user_u:system_r:hald_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:hald_t:s0 tclass=capability I also get: Feb 15 09:39:17 cynosure kernel: audit(1140021557.829:123): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=3927 comm="hald" name="/" dev=hda3 ino=2 scontext=user_u:system_r:hald_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=dir on my "/export" filesystem. Orion From don_springall at hotmail.com Wed Feb 15 16:28:40 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:28:40 -0700 Subject: Stable vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing period? Message-ID: >From: Jeff Spaleta >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: Stable vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing >period? >Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:20:59 -0500 > >On 2/14/06, Don Springall wrote: > > Here are my thoughts on what I think may help: > > 1. A daily blog from Redhat explaining how to get around today's >oops. > >Don't you mean yesterday's oops? How exactly do we know they are oops >until people experience them? I don't see how you can pre-emptively >cover expected problems before rawhide consumers hit them. I really >don't think you gain much from this, but you are certaintly free to >attempt organization of this sort of thing. If all the Core developers >had blogs that exported a special "Rawhide ate my baby" category.. you >could easily aggregate a feed for this specific purpose. But you'd >have to convince them to consistently use their blog and I'm not sure >how you do that. > Good morning Jeff, http://lkml.org/ forum has an rss feed for some posters. They could follow that format if they don't like to blog. And I am not expecting them to be prescient. Just to update when they can. I think as a community if we could get those on the east coast to give us the yum update --exclude { } list as they experince it ,we could save time for those of us on Mountain or Pacific time. It often takes a couple of tries of the update to get your list correct. As you exclude one thing, something else pops up which must be added to the list. > > Something that is tided to that days build report and updated as the > > day > > goes along if the initial solution is wrong or some better workaround is > > found. > >I think you'll have to start this as a breaking news item from the >lists and forums and run it as a community blog initially and invite >developers to add their own "Rawhide ate my baby" feeds over time. > > > 2. Tutorials in online documentation on how to: > > - use the recovery CD >There's a docs subproject... care to start writing that document? I would if I was not such a klutz at it. I frequently hit a wall when I try to run an rpm update when the script fails. > > > - how to boot into runlevel 3 to start x manually >There's a docs subproject... care to start writting that document? That I could handle, Where do I sign up ? > > > - how to run a trace in Gnome and KDE >That exists to some degree... >http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces >Feel free to add to it. > > > - how to build a exclude list for yum update based on rpm queries on > >your system >Feel free to add additional items under Tips and Tricks in: >http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/yum > > > - IE a trouble shooting guide specific to Fedora that keeps up with the > > changes in rawhide >I wrote a personal manifesto at one point concerning testing...but a >much more organized attempt has been started in the meantime. Feel >free to help with... >http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide Ok, as an example the kernel compile notes say do this and follow your text book. Your texbook says to run make bzImage. It is now make followed by make install_modules, make install. > > > 3. A utility that everyone runs and attaches the output from to their > > posts about bugs that captures your kernel version, default window > > manager and release level, your chipset, Video card, network card > > and other essential hardware info to speed debuging. > >Already discussed in -test-list... are you volunteering to write it? >Many people think this is a good idea... someone has to volunteer >their time to make it happen. Are you that person? What script language do you suggest I use and what list should I be on to solicit suggestions ? > > > 4. A rapid move to virtulization so rawhide is only run as a guest OS > > and nuked when badly broken unless you are an experienced kernel > > level developer with years of experience. > >The pace of integration of xen into fedora isn't fast enough for you? >Would you prefer xen stay out of the "stable" tree until its more >polished and better documented? I sense some deep contradicts in you >opinions as to where Fedora should draw the line between being >aggressive about introducing technologies and being conservative in >their introduction to save users/testers the pain of learning new >technologies. You can't have it both ways. If we loose the guest OS who cares. We still have the stable to fall back to once core 5 is final. At least that way we have two OS's minimum on each system and it is no big deal if rawhide breaks as a guest OS. Not eveyone needs to test hadware or has the skills to do it properly. We just download the latest image once it is working again and test away. Plenty of applications out there to test. I am a application programmer by trade. Not expeienced enough to do system level programming. My background is mostly in MVS/ESA, VM/CMS and OS/390 (twenty years) and am new to Linux (two years). > >I look forward to your contribution to the Fedora Docs subproject >since you seem to have identified some particular new items to >contribute there. Thank you for volunteering your time and helping to >write better documentation for all the testers and users out there! > >-jef > >-jef"Virtualization is nice and all for certain things...but unless >testers run rawhide on actual hardware can you be sure hardware >specific bugs that affect non-virtualized installs are going to bite >and bite hard when the final release is unveiled."spaleta From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 15 17:24:17 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:54:17 +0530 Subject: Stable vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing period? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F363C1.8060607@fedoraproject.org> Hi >> >> > - how to boot into runlevel 3 to start x manually >> There's a docs subproject... care to start writting that document? > > That I could handle, Where do I sign up ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject. fedora-docs list would be appropriate. >> >> > 3. A utility that everyone runs and attaches the output from to their >> > posts about bugs that captures your kernel version, default window >> > manager and release level, your chipset, Video card, network card >> > and other essential hardware info to speed debuging. >> >> Already discussed in -test-list... are you volunteering to write it? >> Many people think this is a good idea... someone has to volunteer >> their time to make it happen. Are you that person? > > What script language do you suggest I use and what list should I be on > to solicit suggestions ? > Have you looked into sysreport and pootypedia?. Check out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Schedule. You can post to fedora-websites list. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From bilhega at gruposertanejo.com.br Wed Feb 15 18:28:39 2006 From: bilhega at gruposertanejo.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Carlos_Bilhega_Jr.?=) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:28:39 -0300 Subject: RES: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <1140021533.2824.9.camel@enki.eridu> Message-ID: <20060215173721.878F524789@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> >> Are you booting with linux64 to ensure you are getting the ppc64 kernel. Yes, linux64 text askmethod Steps : download of http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/imag es/boot.iso On boot : linux64 text askmethod Language and keyboard : English Method of installation : HTTP configuration of the network interface Host : download.fedora.redhat.com Location : /pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/ Then, when starting anaconda, the error occurs. Something wrong ? Bilhega, JC -----Mensagem original----- De: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] Em nome de Paul Nasrat Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2006 13:39 Para: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Assunto: Re: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 08:08 -0300, Jos? Carlos Bilhega Jr. wrote: > Everyday I?m getting the boot.iso (also tried with rescuecd.iso) in > the development area (at download.fedora.redhat.com) and trying an ftp > install on ppc64 machine, and the anaconda doesn?t start. Is there > another way to make install tests ? Can you try an nfs install? > running ananconda, the Fedora Core system installer - please wait... > install exited abnormally > sending termination signals...done > sending Kill signals...done > disabling swap... > unmounting filesystems... > > Machine IBM eServer pSeries 620 Model 6F1 PowerPC 64bits, SCSI disks I've tested various ppc64 machines (g5, blades, POWER3) here and they all installed fine. I'll see if I can reproduce on a p630 here. Are you booting with linux64 to ensure you are getting the ppc64 kernel. Paul -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mandreiana.lists at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 18:20:17 2006 From: mandreiana.lists at gmail.com (Marius Andreiana) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:20:17 +0200 Subject: Are gaim file transfers working? In-Reply-To: <42046.69.139.155.62.1139963386.squirrel@mail.panix.com> References: <42046.69.139.155.62.1139963386.squirrel@mail.panix.com> Message-ID: <1140027617.3292.1.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 19:29 -0500, William Shotts wrote: > I am able to receive files through gaim but unable to transmit. Same here, with jabber. Also receiving works only if the filename doesn't contain spaces. Kindly let us know URLs if you submit bugs on gaim.sf.net Thanks, -- Marius Andreiana From stelian.iancu at gmx.net Thu Feb 16 00:22:51 2006 From: stelian.iancu at gmx.net (Stelian Iancu) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:22:51 -0500 Subject: DNS resolving problems Message-ID: <1140049371.2706.6.camel@paradise.siancu.net> Hi all, First of all, I am not sure this is a problem with rawhide, or it's present in FC4 as well, but since I am now running rawhide and I am experiencing this issue, I'll post it to this list. So, to the problem: DNS resolving of any kind takes ages. I've tried with the local DNS server of my router and with external ones, and the result is the same. There are no problems whatsoever with the internet connection, as it works really well after the initial resolving of the IP address. So any ideas about how can I solve this issue? Many thanks! With regards, Stelian Iancu From buildsys at redhat.com Wed Feb 15 18:38:09 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:38:09 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060215 changes Message-ID: <200602151838.k1FIc98M021302@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: binutils-2.16.91.0.6-1 ---------------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jakub Jelinek 2.16.91.0.6-1 - update to 2.16.91.0.6 - fix ppc64 --gc-sections - disassembler fixes for x86_64 cr/debug regs - fix linker search order for DT_NEEDED libs * Mon Jan 02 2006 Jakub Jelinek 2.16.91.0.5-1 - update to 2.16.91.0.5 - don't error about .toc1 references to discarded sectiosn on ppc64 (#175944) * Wed Dec 14 2005 Jakub Jelinek 2.16.91.0.3-2 - put .gnu.linkonce.d.rel.ro.* sections into relro region compat-db-4.2.52-4 ------------------ * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jindrich Novy 4.2.52-4 - clarify pointer usage in db_load.c (#110697) gawk-3.1.5-6.2 -------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Karel Zak 3.1.5-6.2 - new version of the gawk-3.1.5-wconcat.patch patch gcc-4.1.0-0.27 -------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Alexandre Oliva 4.1.0-0.27 - merge fix by Zdenek Dvorak for regression introduced by patch for PR tree-optimization/26209 * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.26 - update from gcc-4_1-branch (-r110903:110978) - PRs fortran/20861, fortran/20871, fortran/25059, fortran/25070, fortran/25083, fortran/25088, fortran/25103, fortran/26038, fortran/26074, inline-asm/16194, libfortran/24685, libfortran/25425, target/26141, tree-optimization/26258 - ABI change - revert to GCC 3.3 and earlier behaviour of zero sized bitfields in packed structs (Michael Matz, PR middle-end/22275) - fix valarrays vs. non-POD (Paolo Carlini, Gabriel Dos Reis, PR libstdc++/25626) - fix C++ duplicate declspec diagnostics (Volker Reichelt, PR c++/26151) - fix dominance ICE (Zdenek Dvorak, PR tree-optimization/26209) - add some new Intel {,e,x}mmintrin.h intrinsics (H.J. Lu) - speedup bitset<>::_M_copy_to_string (Paolo Carlini) - fix tree_expr_nonzero_p (Jeff Law) - fix TRUTH_XOR_EXPR handling in VRP (Jeff Law) kudzu-1.2.29-1 -------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Bill Nottingham - 1.2.29-1 - silence! mkinitrd-5.0.25-1 ----------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Peter Jones - 5.0.25-1 - rework hotplug control fds (#181515) * Tue Feb 14 2006 Peter Jones - 5.0.24-1 - use the right nash-dm command to get the device list - check if a subdevice has the same partition table, not if it starts at the right place (fixes partition comparison on !mirror devices) Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-4.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-4.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5smp cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5smp dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5smp gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-3.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-3.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-3.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-3.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5smp Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- ccs-devel - 1.0.3-0.2.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.3-0.2 gulm - 1.0.0-2.ppc requires ccs Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 magma-plugins - 1.0.3-1.FC5.ppc64 requires libgulm.so.1()(64bit) vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-4.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-4.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.4.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.3.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-3.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-3.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1941_FC5 From amellan at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 18:46:57 2006 From: amellan at gmail.com (Alain Mellan) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:46:57 -0800 Subject: GNOME_MiniCommander applet fails Message-ID: <95ac75570602151046g4a7bf1cfkc83c0f833e8981a@mail.gmail.com> Hi, After installing the latest gnome-panel-2.13.90-3 and gnome-applets-2.13.4-1, the mini commander fails (and deskbar-applet too). All others are OK (checked with panel-test-applets). The output of panel-test-applets doesn't say much: Bonobo-WARNING **: Activation exception 'Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/tmp/0t1140........; size=xx-small;orient=top' And I get a 'Failed to load applet OAFIID:GNOME_MiniCommanderApplet' popup window. Anyone seen this? -- alain. From jreiser at BitWagon.com Wed Feb 15 18:53:18 2006 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:53:18 -0800 Subject: DNS resolving problems In-Reply-To: <1140049371.2706.6.camel@paradise.siancu.net> References: <1140049371.2706.6.camel@paradise.siancu.net> Message-ID: <43F3789E.6030302@BitWagon.com> > DNS resolving of any kind takes ages. Please give an approximate numerical time. 5 seconds? 5 minutes? Is the code waiting for timeout of non-existent IP6 routing? If so, then disable IP6. -- From jvdias at redhat.com Wed Feb 15 19:02:15 2006 From: jvdias at redhat.com (Jason Vas Dias) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:02:15 -0500 Subject: DNS resolving problems In-Reply-To: <1140049371.2706.6.camel@paradise.siancu.net> References: <1140049371.2706.6.camel@paradise.siancu.net> Message-ID: <200602151402.15847.jvdias@redhat.com> On Wednesday 15 February 2006 19:22, Stelian Iancu wrote: > Hi all, > > First of all, I am not sure this is a problem with rawhide, or it's > present in FC4 as well, but since I am now running rawhide and I am > experiencing this issue, I'll post it to this list. > > So, to the problem: DNS resolving of any kind takes ages. I've tried > with the local DNS server of my router and with external ones, and the > result is the same. There are no problems whatsoever with the internet > connection, as it works really well after the initial resolving of the > IP address. > > So any ideas about how can I solve this issue? > > Many thanks! > > With regards, > Stelian Iancu > Hi Stelian - We'd need some more details to be able to advise : 1. How is your resolver set up ? Are you using only /etc/resolv.conf and the glibc resolver, or are you running a local caching-nameserver (named) ? Are you using NetworkManager ? Are you using nscd ? What does your /etc/nsswitch.conf 'hosts:' line say ? 2. Please quantify the problem - send us the /tmp/tcpdump.dns.log created by: # tcpdump -vvv -ttt -nl -s 8192 -i any port domain >/tmp/tcpdump.dns.log 2>&1 & # host a.name.that.takes.a.long.time.to.resolve # pkill tcpdump NOTE: previous response to this issue: On Wednesday 15 February 2006 13:53, John Reiser wrote: > Is the code waiting for timeout of non-existent IP6 routing? > If so, then disable IP6. This problem has been fixed for a long time in BIND, and should not be a problem with glibc resolver - do you have any resolv.conf options settings ? Thanks & Regards, Jason Vas Dias BIND package maintainer Red Hat Inc. From jonathansavage at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 19:21:43 2006 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:21:43 -0800 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> > On my system this is an selinux issue: > Same here- works fine w/ selinux turned off. -- Bests, Jon From jonathansavage at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 19:40:20 2006 From: jonathansavage at gmail.com (Jon Savage) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:40:20 -0800 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad7cea10602151140x6eca97c6gd09ca9e7339f825f@mail.gmail.com> On 2/15/06, Jon Savage wrote: > > On my system this is an selinux issue: > > > > Same here- works fine w/ selinux turned off. > -- > Bests, > Jon > Note that it started working for me in enforcing after a relabel as well -- Bests, Jon From pnasrat at redhat.com Wed Feb 15 19:40:35 2006 From: pnasrat at redhat.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:40:35 -0500 Subject: RES: Want to help testing to get FC5 test3 out? In-Reply-To: <20060215173721.878F524789@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> References: <20060215173721.878F524789@wsertanejo.gruposertanejo.com.br> Message-ID: <1140032435.2824.15.camel@enki.eridu> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 15:28 -0300, Jos? Carlos Bilhega Jr. wrote: > >> Are you booting with linux64 to ensure you are getting the ppc64 kernel. > > Yes, linux64 text askmethod > > Steps : > download of > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/imag > es/boot.iso > > On boot : linux64 text askmethod > > Language and keyboard : English > > Method of installation : HTTP > > configuration of the network interface > Host : download.fedora.redhat.com > Location : /pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ppc/ > Then, when starting anaconda, the error occurs. I can not replicate here on a p630, please give file a bug giving full details of your system and configuration, including whether it is a full system partition or logical partition, etc. Paul From trulsg at broadpark.no Wed Feb 15 19:56:31 2006 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:56:31 +0100 Subject: ntpd fails on boot Message-ID: <43F3876F.3070308@broadpark.no> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I was wondering if there is a wrong sequence regarding ntpd when booting. I have noticed that first ntpd tries to sync with server (fails) and thereafter starts the ntpd service (success). Isn't there an inconsistency here? Regards, Truls -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD84duickK29LSyG8RAnH5AKDbCg4p0LYcrIbW18FN0y4nFLD2ZACgj0OS BHqs1Z4oU5kPG0iXXfDT/Hs= =+miy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: trulsg.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 237 bytes Desc: not available URL: From trulsg at broadpark.no Wed Feb 15 20:04:14 2006 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:04:14 +0100 Subject: New network profile after yum update Message-ID: <43F3893E.5030901@broadpark.no> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, after the last update I find a new network profile/device: status:active device:lo nickname:lo.rpmorig type: Loopback this device cannot be edited. My wireless device, eth1, comes up inactive but it can be actived manually resulting in both the Looback and Wireless device active. Is this correct? Regards, Truls -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD84k+ickK29LSyG8RAj/rAKCg3kM/AuGnAb52gORWSjKUkM0MGgCg2xVc bjI2ak9woqLP1YhNNGlnXCw= =DltA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: trulsg.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 237 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stelian.iancu at gmx.net Thu Feb 16 02:08:36 2006 From: stelian.iancu at gmx.net (Stelian Iancu) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:08:36 -0500 Subject: DNS resolving problems In-Reply-To: <200602151402.15847.jvdias@redhat.com> References: <1140049371.2706.6.camel@paradise.siancu.net> <200602151402.15847.jvdias@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140055717.3147.4.camel@paradise.siancu.net> > Hi Stelian - > Hello, please see my comments inside. > We'd need some more details to be able to advise : > > 1. How is your resolver set up ? > > Are you using only /etc/resolv.conf and the glibc resolver, > or are you running a local caching-nameserver (named) ? Only resolv.conf, no named. > Are you using NetworkManager ? Yes, but only starting from today. Yesterday I've updated from FC5 Test 2 to rawhide and, before that, in FC5 Test 2 I didn't use NetworkManager and the behavior was the same. BTW, I am using a wireless connection (I don't know if it's relevant or not). > Are you using nscd ? No. > What does your /etc/nsswitch.conf 'hosts:' line say ? > hosts: files dns > 2. Please quantify the problem - send us the /tmp/tcpdump.dns.log created by: > # tcpdump -vvv -ttt -nl -s 8192 -i any port domain >/tmp/tcpdump.dns.log 2>&1 & > # host a.name.that.takes.a.long.time.to.resolve > # pkill tcpdump > I've ran tcpdump with the syntax you've provided (I hope I did it correctly :-), here is the log. It seemed pretty fast to me (to resolve redhat.com), however, once I try it in Firefox, for example, it takes a much longer time. > NOTE: previous response to this issue: > On Wednesday 15 February 2006 13:53, John Reiser wrote: > > Is the code waiting for timeout of non-existent IP6 routing? > > If so, then disable IP6. > This problem has been fixed for a long time in BIND, and should not be > a problem with glibc resolver - do you have any resolv.conf options settings ? I don't have any resolv.conf options settings, only the nameserver line. > > Thanks & Regards, > Jason Vas Dias > BIND package maintainer > Red Hat Inc. Many thanks! Stelian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: trulsg.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 237 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mario at targetdevelopment.at Wed Feb 15 20:23:58 2006 From: mario at targetdevelopment.at (DI Mario Bruckschwaiger) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:23:58 +0100 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> Jon Savage wrote: >> On my system this is an selinux issue: >> > > Same here- works fine w/ selinux turned off. kudzu does not work on my system (x86_64) with selinux turned off. From roger at gwch.net Wed Feb 15 20:35:55 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:35:55 +0100 Subject: Redzone mismatch-entries Message-ID: <1140035756.2449.2.camel@niobe> Hello, This is what i get after the update: slab size-64: redzone mismatch in slab cfa85020, obj cfa85234, bufctl 0xfffffffe Redzone: 0x170fc2a5/0xffffffff. Last user: [](pci_device_probe+0x36/0x57) 000: 01 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 010: 03 00 00 00 03 01 00 00 00 00 02 26 00 00 00 00 Any hints? Roger From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Wed Feb 15 20:39:46 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:39:46 +0100 Subject: Redzone mismatch-entries In-Reply-To: <1140035756.2449.2.camel@niobe> References: <1140035756.2449.2.camel@niobe> Message-ID: <1140035987.4117.52.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 21:35 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > Hello, > > This is what i get after the update: > > slab size-64: redzone mismatch in slab cfa85020, obj cfa85234, bufctl > 0xfffffffe > Redzone: 0x170fc2a5/0xffffffff. > Last user: [](pci_device_probe+0x36/0x57) > 000: 01 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 > 010: 03 00 00 00 03 01 00 00 00 00 02 26 00 00 00 00 need a module list for diagnosing this... some pci device driver scribbled over memory... From redhat at olen.net Wed Feb 15 20:39:55 2006 From: redhat at olen.net (Ola Thoresen) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: ntpd fails on boot References: <43F3876F.3070308@broadpark.no> Message-ID: 2006-02-15 Truls Gulbrandsen wrote > > Hi, > I was wondering if there is a wrong sequence regarding ntpd when booting. > > I have noticed that first ntpd tries to sync with server (fails) and > thereafter starts the ntpd service (success). When starting up, ntpd uses 'ntpdate' with the content of /etc/ntp/step-tickers as parameter(s) The default here is a few pool*.ntp.org lines, and I have several times noticed that this makes the syncing extremely slow - and sometimes failing. If I sync with just one or two local ntp-servers the startup is a _lot_ faster. ntpd however runs as a daemon, and will start even without being able to connect to any servers, as it will just try to resync the clock as soon as one or more servers are available. So try to change your step-tickers so it just contains IE. ntp.uio.no (as you are here in Norwaym that one is quite reliable - your ISP might have another timeserver available, just add that one as well to get som redundancy). Hopefully this will help. Rgds. Ola Thoresen From rc040203 at freenet.de Wed Feb 15 20:47:25 2006 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:47:25 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060215 changes In-Reply-To: <200602151838.k1FIc98M021302@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602151838.k1FIc98M021302@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140036445.11538.84.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> > gcc-4.1.0-0.27 > -------------- > * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.26 > - update from gcc-4_1-branch (-r110903:110978) > - PRs fortran/20861, fortran/20871, fortran/25059, fortran/25070, > fortran/25083, fortran/25088, fortran/25103, fortran/26038, > fortran/26074, inline-asm/16194, libfortran/24685, > libfortran/25425, target/26141, tree-optimization/26258 > - ABI change - revert to GCC 3.3 and earlier behaviour of > zero sized bitfields in packed structs (Michael Matz, PR middle-end/22275) Do I read this correctly - ABI change? The whole FC5 mass rebuilds were in vain? Ralf From jakub at redhat.com Wed Feb 15 20:50:52 2006 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:50:52 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060215 changes In-Reply-To: <1140036445.11538.84.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> References: <200602151838.k1FIc98M021302@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1140036445.11538.84.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> Message-ID: <20060215205051.GA24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 09:47:25PM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > gcc-4.1.0-0.27 > > -------------- > > > * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.26 > > - update from gcc-4_1-branch (-r110903:110978) > > - PRs fortran/20861, fortran/20871, fortran/25059, fortran/25070, > > fortran/25083, fortran/25088, fortran/25103, fortran/26038, > > fortran/26074, inline-asm/16194, libfortran/24685, > > libfortran/25425, target/26141, tree-optimization/26258 > > - ABI change - revert to GCC 3.3 and earlier behaviour of > > zero sized bitfields in packed structs (Michael Matz, PR middle-end/22275) > > Do I read this correctly - ABI change? Yes. > The whole FC5 mass rebuilds were in vain? No, packed structures containing zero width bitfields are extremely rare. And if something really cared about the exact layout of those structures, it wouldn't rely on this, as GCC < 3.4 behavior differed from 3.4/4.0. Jakub From roger at gwch.net Wed Feb 15 20:54:34 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:54:34 +0100 Subject: Redzone mismatch-entries In-Reply-To: <1140035987.4117.52.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1140035756.2449.2.camel@niobe> <1140035987.4117.52.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <1140036874.2449.6.camel@niobe> Am Mittwoch, den 15.02.2006, 21:39 +0100 schrieb Arjan van de Ven: > On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 21:35 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > > Hello, > > > > This is what i get after the update: > > > > slab size-64: redzone mismatch in slab cfa85020, obj cfa85234, bufctl > > 0xfffffffe > > Redzone: 0x170fc2a5/0xffffffff. > > Last user: [](pci_device_probe+0x36/0x57) > > 000: 01 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 > > 010: 03 00 00 00 03 01 00 00 00 00 02 26 00 00 00 00 > > need a module list for diagnosing this... > some pci device driver scribbled over memory... > Hey Arjan, See those: [root at niobe ~]# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) 00:03.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1225 (rev 01) 00:03.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1225 (rev 01) 00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2360 [MagicMedia 256ZX] 01:00.1 Multimedia audio controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2360 [MagicMedia 256ZX Audio] 06:00.0 Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface [root at niobe ~]# lsmod Module Size Used by ppdev 8773 0 autofs4 19013 1 sunrpc 136573 1 ndiswrapper 138324 0 8139too 25409 0 mii 5313 1 8139too ip_conntrack_netbios_ns 3009 0 ipt_REJECT 5441 1 xt_state 2241 2 ip_conntrack 49261 2 ip_conntrack_netbios_ns,xt_state nfnetlink 6489 1 ip_conntrack xt_tcpudp 3265 4 iptable_filter 3137 1 ip_tables 11657 1 iptable_filter x_tables 12613 4 ipt_REJECT,xt_state,xt_tcpudp,ip_tables video 15045 0 button 6609 0 battery 9285 0 ac 4933 0 ipv6 225569 16 lp 12297 0 parport_pc 25445 1 parport 34313 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc floppy 57733 0 nvram 8393 0 uhci_hcd 28881 0 joydev 9473 0 snd_nm256 67937 1 snd_ac97_codec 83937 1 snd_nm256 snd_ac97_bus 2497 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_seq_dummy 3781 0 snd_seq_oss 28993 0 snd_seq_midi_event 7105 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq 47153 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device 8909 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_pcm_oss 45009 0 snd_mixer_oss 16449 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 76997 3 snd_nm256,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 22597 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 10441 1 snd_pcm snd 50500 9 snd_nm256,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 9377 2 snd i2c_piix4 8529 0 i2c_core 20673 1 i2c_piix4 dm_snapshot 15981 0 dm_zero 2113 0 dm_mirror 19729 0 dm_mod 50137 6 dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror ext3 116169 2 jbd 52949 1 ext3 Anything else needed??? Roger From notting at redhat.com Wed Feb 15 20:58:36 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:58:36 -0500 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> Message-ID: <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> DI Mario Bruckschwaiger (mario at targetdevelopment.at) said: > Jon Savage wrote: > >>On my system this is an selinux issue: > >> > > > >Same here- works fine w/ selinux turned off. > > kudzu does not work on my system (x86_64) with selinux turned off. For those that see the kudzu segfault, what sort of video hardware do you have? Bill From roger at gwch.net Wed Feb 15 21:00:00 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:00:00 +0100 Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? Message-ID: <1140037200.2449.9.camel@niobe> hello, i use a d-link DWL-G650+ with the ACX111-Chipset. Until now, i used ndiswrapper (which is working quite well also with wpa_supplicant) As new NetworkManager supports WPA too, i would give him a try, if it would support ACX111. Somebody found a list of supported chipsets by NetworkManager? Roger From davej at redhat.com Wed Feb 15 21:00:19 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:00:19 -0500 Subject: Redzone mismatch-entries In-Reply-To: <1140036874.2449.6.camel@niobe> References: <1140035756.2449.2.camel@niobe> <1140035987.4117.52.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1140036874.2449.6.camel@niobe> Message-ID: <20060215210019.GB31951@redhat.com> On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 09:54:34PM +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > ndiswrapper 138324 0 Because you're using a setup that we don't have all the source for, this is undebuggable. Dave From berryja at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 21:06:12 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:06:12 -0600 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602151306i783153cl58c3940d166e3cce@mail.gmail.com> On 2/15/06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > DI Mario Bruckschwaiger (mario at targetdevelopment.at) said: > > kudzu does not work on my system (x86_64) with selinux turned off. > > For those that see the kudzu segfault, what sort of video hardware > do you have? I have an nVidia GeForce 6600 GT, PCI-e card. Currently using the nv driver (for completeness). I'll get the debug package and run it through gdb this evening, if I get a chance. Jonathan From rc040203 at freenet.de Wed Feb 15 21:08:09 2006 From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:08:09 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060215 changes In-Reply-To: <20060215205051.GA24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602151838.k1FIc98M021302@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1140036445.11538.84.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> <20060215205051.GA24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140037689.11538.90.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 15:50 -0500, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 09:47:25PM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > gcc-4.1.0-0.27 > > > -------------- > > > > > * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.26 > > > - update from gcc-4_1-branch (-r110903:110978) > > > - PRs fortran/20861, fortran/20871, fortran/25059, fortran/25070, > > > fortran/25083, fortran/25088, fortran/25103, fortran/26038, > > > fortran/26074, inline-asm/16194, libfortran/24685, > > > libfortran/25425, target/26141, tree-optimization/26258 > > > - ABI change - revert to GCC 3.3 and earlier behaviour of > > > zero sized bitfields in packed structs (Michael Matz, PR middle-end/22275) > > > > Do I read this correctly - ABI change? > > Yes. > > > The whole FC5 mass rebuilds were in vain? > > No, packed structures containing zero width bitfields are extremely rare. OK, nevertheless, something to keep an eye on. Should somebody find such a struct in a core part of a central library (very low level packages (kernel, glibc, drivers) or GUI-toolskits seem likely candidates, to me), .... > And if something really cared about the exact layout of those structures, > it wouldn't rely on this, as GCC < 3.4 behavior differed from 3.4/4.0. This shouldn't matter here, because the rebuild was initiated by the GCC 4.0->4.1 transition. Ralf From roger at gwch.net Wed Feb 15 21:13:31 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:13:31 +0100 Subject: Redzone mismatch-entries In-Reply-To: <20060215210019.GB31951@redhat.com> References: <1140035756.2449.2.camel@niobe> <1140035987.4117.52.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1140036874.2449.6.camel@niobe> <20060215210019.GB31951@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140038012.2449.16.camel@niobe> Am Mittwoch, den 15.02.2006, 16:00 -0500 schrieb Dave Jones: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 09:54:34PM +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > > ndiswrapper 138324 0 > > Because you're using a setup that we don't have all the source > for, this is undebuggable. > > Dave > *lol* gonna look for a newer version.... thx Roger From mario at targetdevelopment.at Wed Feb 15 21:24:57 2006 From: mario at targetdevelopment.at (DI Mario Bruckschwaiger) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:24:57 +0100 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43F39C29.3000707@targetdevelopment.at> Bill Nottingham wrote: > DI Mario Bruckschwaiger (mario at targetdevelopment.at) said: >> Jon Savage wrote: >>>> On my system this is an selinux issue: >>>> >>> Same here- works fine w/ selinux turned off. >> kudzu does not work on my system (x86_64) with selinux turned off. > > For those that see the kudzu segfault, what sort of video hardware > do you have? I have an nVidia GeForce FX Go5650 and I use the nvidia driver 1.0-8178 with kernel 2.6.15-1.1826.2.9_FC5 (everything else is from Rawhide). From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed Feb 15 21:32:50 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:32:50 -0500 Subject: SELinux and NSS [was: Problem with NSS update - Firefox, Evolution] In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602142106o3d8be849ue7610a97cad98902@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0601281249w13ed78d9n509371d7fd8b7b59@mail.gmail.com> <43E020A8.5020706@redhat.com> <8767947e0602032205t58ef1e2fs21b2e19dd989c74d@mail.gmail.com> <43E77F6D.3060104@redhat.com> <8767947e0602101921m14e6d08dtd7f10696241741be@mail.gmail.com> <43F0BD88.2070200@redhat.com> <8767947e0602142106o3d8be849ue7610a97cad98902@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F39E02.9040408@redhat.com> Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 2/13/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > [snip] > >> Try setsebool -P allow_execstack=1 >> > > Yes, this allows both Firefox and Evolution to start up normally. > What exactly does this do? Doesn't appear to be a very security > conscious fix. Does this just mean that NSS needs an executable stack > and wasn't given one? > > Jonathan > > Yes. We are investigating why it needs an executable stack. Looks like this is an initialization thing. So after the first time you can turn it off. Although I think flash player needs it too. Dan From lsatenstein at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 21:56:21 2006 From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:56:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Monitor detection during install Message-ID: <20060215215621.3703.qmail@web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I first reported the problem with TEST1 in bugzilla, and since I could do the monitor config, etc after boot, I did not bother to confirm the fix in test2. It is still there, as well as the incorrect keyboard definition for Canada Multi-lingual. Why does it work in core4 but get broken in Core5. Is it new logic, a bug with the comiler optimisation, or something that is broken and in the todo list for fixing. I am beginning to believe that the Test3 date should be pushed out another week to even March. Leslie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bkoz at redhat.com Wed Feb 15 22:12:50 2006 From: bkoz at redhat.com (Benjamin Kosnik) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:12:50 -0600 Subject: rawhide report: 20060215 changes In-Reply-To: <200602151838.k1FIc98M021302@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602151838.k1FIc98M021302@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060215161250.2b9f95ae.bkoz@redhat.com> > binutils-2.16.91.0.6-1 > ---------------------- > * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jakub Jelinek 2.16.91.0.6-1 > - update to 2.16.91.0.6 > - fix ppc64 --gc-sections Nice! Thanks Jakub. -benjamin From patrick at wudika.de Thu Feb 16 04:37:28 2006 From: patrick at wudika.de (Patrick von der Hagen) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:37:28 -0500 Subject: DNS resolving problems In-Reply-To: <200602151402.15847.jvdias@redhat.com> References: <1140049371.2706.6.camel@paradise.siancu.net> <200602151402.15847.jvdias@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43F40188.4050206@wudika.de> Jason Vas Dias wrote: [...] > 2. Please quantify the problem - send us the /tmp/tcpdump.dns.log created by: > # tcpdump -vvv -ttt -nl -s 8192 -i any port domain >/tmp/tcpdump.dns.log 2>&1 & > # host a.name.that.takes.a.long.time.to.resolve > # pkill tcpdump I have the same problem like Stelian, but since I changed my provider recently, I didn't suspect Rawhide. However, when following your steps, I get this: [root at localhost ~]# host www.union-invest.de www.union-invest.de has address 193.24.35.212 ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached The IPv4-address is returned without delay, but then it takes several seconds for other requests to timeout. I won't post my tcpdump.dns.log here, since it seems to be very similar to the one already posted by Stelian. > > NOTE: previous response to this issue: > On Wednesday 15 February 2006 13:53, John Reiser wrote: >> Is the code waiting for timeout of non-existent IP6 routing? >> If so, then disable IP6. > This problem has been fixed for a long time in BIND, and should not be > a problem with glibc resolver - do you have any resolv.conf options settings ? Hah. John's suggestion was very valuable, because after removing my IPv6-adresses ("ifconfig lo del ::1/128",...) I get [root at localhost ~]# host www.union-invest.de www.union-invest.de has address 193.24.35.212 [root at localhost ~]# No timeouts and a very good response-time. :-) I had two IPv6-addresses and two timeouts first and after removing both IPv6-adresses both timeouts disappeard. [root at localhost ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! search hek.uni-karlsruhe.de nameserver 62.72.64.237 nameserver 62.72.64.241 -- CU, Patrick. From fabio.comolli at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 22:38:11 2006 From: fabio.comolli at gmail.com (Fabio Comolli) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:38:11 +0100 Subject: Issue with selinux and swapfiles in FC5? Message-ID: Hi. I found this line in my logs: audit(1140033999.212:6): avc: denied { write } for pid=2171 comm="swapon" name="swapfile" dev=sda2 ino=67052 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=file I'm just experimenting with selinux, so I set it up in permissive mode and the swap was activated. Is there a way to get rid of it? (or can it be considered harmless?) Thanks in advance. Fabio From jvdias at redhat.com Wed Feb 15 23:02:31 2006 From: jvdias at redhat.com (Jason Vas Dias) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:02:31 -0500 Subject: DNS resolving problems In-Reply-To: <43F40188.4050206@wudika.de> References: <1140049371.2706.6.camel@paradise.siancu.net> <200602151402.15847.jvdias@redhat.com> <43F40188.4050206@wudika.de> Message-ID: <200602151802.32157.jvdias@redhat.com> On Wednesday 15 February 2006 23:37, Patrick von der Hagen wrote: > > [root at localhost ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf > # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! > > search hek.uni-karlsruhe.de > > > nameserver 62.72.64.237 > nameserver 62.72.64.241 > This appears to be the problem - your glibc resolver is contacting those nameservers directly, and they are possibly returning AAAA records before A records for the NS or name you are looking up - sending us the tcpdump log may be helpful in diagnosing the glibc resolver problem. NetworkManager(NM) is meant to use named in caching-nameserver mode, and to write ONLY the line: 'nameserver 127.0.0.1 ' to /etc/resolv.conf . It appears that this aspect of NM is not working correctly at the moment - the NM maintainer has been informed and is working on a solution. Meanwhile, if you remove the nameservers from /etc/resolv.conf: $ sed -i '/nameserver/d' /etc/resolv.conf and start named: $ service named start The timeouts should disappear. Regards, Jason Vas Dias Red Hat Inc. From linxt at comcast.net Wed Feb 15 23:55:00 2006 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:55:00 -0500 Subject: After yesterdays yum update - problem starting X (SOLVED) Message-ID: <200602151555.00120.linxt@comcast.net> After performing a yum -y update yesterday, I rebooted and logged on as normal user via command line like I normally do. When I entered startx all I got was a blank screen. I then rebooted and logged in as root and again tried to start X with the same results. SOLUTION: Rebooted and logged on as root. Ran system-config-display and found that the update had caused a change in the display driver from my ATI Radeon 9200 to a VESA driver which does not work with my video card and monitor. Video card: ATI Radeon 9200 (RV280) Monitor: Envision EN-7600 LCD (1024x768 @ 60Hz) Kernel: 2.6.15-1.1948_FC5smp M/B: Gigabyte GA-7DPXDW-P Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA If he shoots his friends, what does he do to his enemies? From patrick at wudika.de Thu Feb 16 06:34:52 2006 From: patrick at wudika.de (Patrick von der Hagen) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:34:52 -0500 Subject: DNS resolving problems In-Reply-To: <200602151802.32157.jvdias@redhat.com> References: <1140049371.2706.6.camel@paradise.siancu.net> <200602151402.15847.jvdias@redhat.com> <43F40188.4050206@wudika.de> <200602151802.32157.jvdias@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43F41D0C.2080507@wudika.de> Jason Vas Dias wrote: [...] > NetworkManager(NM) is meant to use named in caching-nameserver mode, > and to write ONLY the line: > 'nameserver 127.0.0.1 > ' > to /etc/resolv.conf . > > It appears that this aspect of NM is not working correctly at the moment - > the NM maintainer has been informed and is working on a solution. I used NM once, didn't like it and never touched it again. Didn't do anything to explicitly disable it, though. Neither named nor NetworkManager is started, as far as I can tell. [root at localhost ~]# ls /etc/rc*/*name* /etc/rc0.d/K87named /etc/rc1.d/K87named /etc/rc2.d/K87named /etc/rc3.d/K87named /etc/rc4.d/K87named /etc/rc5.d/K87named /etc/rc6.d/K87named [root at localhost ~]# ls /etc/rc*/*Mana* /etc/rc0.d/K02NetworkManager /etc/rc2.d/K02NetworkManagerDispatcher /etc/rc5.d/K02NetworkManager /etc/rc0.d/K02NetworkManagerDispatcher /etc/rc3.d/K02NetworkManager /etc/rc5.d/K02NetworkManagerDispatcher /etc/rc1.d/K02NetworkManager /etc/rc3.d/K02NetworkManagerDispatcher /etc/rc6.d/K02NetworkManager /etc/rc1.d/K02NetworkManagerDispatcher /etc/rc4.d/K02NetworkManager /etc/rc6.d/K02NetworkManagerDispatcher /etc/rc2.d/K02NetworkManager /etc/rc4.d/K02NetworkManagerDispatcher [root at localhost ~]# system-config-network tells me that dns-information is to be gathered by DHCP. However, I deleted /etc/resolv.conf, restarted and got a new resolv.conf containg: [root at localhost ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf search localdomain [root at localhost ~]# So those IPs I mentioned earlier would be perfectly valid, I can find them in /var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-eth0.leases, so DHCP seems to correctly distribute DNS-information, but Rawhide ignores that information and doesn't update my resolv.conf, although system-config-network indicates that this should happen.... a) I'm tired b) Good Night c) will investigate tomorrow -- CU, Patrick. From gnomeuser at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 01:26:19 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 02:26:19 +0100 Subject: ntpd fails on boot In-Reply-To: References: <43F3876F.3070308@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <1140053180.19997.5.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> ons, 15 02 2006 kl. 20:39 +0000, skrev Ola Thoresen: > 2006-02-15 Truls Gulbrandsen wrote > > > > Hi, > > I was wondering if there is a wrong sequence regarding ntpd when booting. > > > > I have noticed that first ntpd tries to sync with server (fails) and > > thereafter starts the ntpd service (success). > > > When starting up, ntpd uses 'ntpdate' with the content of > /etc/ntp/step-tickers as parameter(s) > The default here is a few pool*.ntp.org lines, and I have several times > noticed that this makes the syncing extremely slow - and sometimes > failing. > If I sync with just one or two local ntp-servers the startup is a _lot_ > faster. > > ntpd however runs as a daemon, and will start even without being able to > connect to any servers, as it will just try to resync the clock as soon > as one or more servers are available. > > So try to change your step-tickers so it just contains IE. ntp.uio.no > (as you are here in Norwaym that one is quite reliable - your ISP might > have another timeserver available, just add that one as well to get som > redundancy). Hopefully this will help. Still it fails for network manager set ups as that service starts after the ntp service - thus causing it to fail on every boot. - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Thu Feb 16 02:16:22 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:16:22 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! Message-ID: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> I noticed that the power manager is starting to be pretty much a battery applet with a few less features. What is this crippling supposed to accomplish? A few days ago, I knew how to prevent closing the display lid on my laptop w/o having it go into suspend. today, I am at a loss to how to change my power management settings. I know that there were bug reports requesting removal of the options on computers that are presently incapable of successfully going into suspend or into hibernate. It does not seem rationale for settings to not be easily manageable as if the obstacles preventing those that have problems on their systems presently because of lack of resolution in the development arena are slower than would be expected. Removing the features seems like a move to styfle legitimate bug reports and hide a legitimate failure on the power management scene. I hope to see reversal of the degradation of the power manager to yet another battery charge indicator. Jim -- It's the same old story; boy meets beer, boy drinks beer... boy gets another beer. -- Cheers From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 16 02:20:05 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:20:05 -0800 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 21:16 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > I noticed that the power manager is starting to be pretty much a battery > applet with a few less features. What is this crippling supposed to > accomplish? The only thing I see missing is the options to suspend or hibernate. Suspend has moved to the system menu, and hibernate is gone I do believe because it is quite broken on a lot of systems currently. > A few days ago, I knew how to prevent closing the display lid on my > laptop w/o having it go into suspend. today, I am at a loss to how to > change my power management settings. System -> Preferences -> More Preferences -> Power Management. Also left or right click on gnome-power-manager and select Preferences. Same app. > I know that there were bug reports requesting removal of the options on > computers that are presently incapable of successfully going into > suspend or into hibernate. It does not seem rationale for settings to > not be easily manageable as if the obstacles preventing those that have > problems on their systems presently because of lack of resolution in the > development arena are slower than would be expected. > > Removing the features seems like a move to styfle legitimate bug reports > and hide a legitimate failure on the power management scene. > > I hope to see reversal of the degradation of the power manager to yet > another battery charge indicator. Again, the only thing I see gone is the suspend/hibernate options. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Thu Feb 16 03:16:45 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:16:45 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> Message-ID: <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 21:16 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: >> I noticed that the power manager is starting to be pretty much a battery >> applet with a few less features. What is this crippling supposed to >> accomplish? > > The only thing I see missing is the options to suspend or hibernate. There were items in properties where you could adjust the actions taken for certain situations like closing the display lid. I selected for the action for closing the lid to do nothing. I really don't use the hibernate or suspend feature myself. I still however would like to be able to disable or enable the way power management works on my laptop in a fairly intuitive manner. I would not know now as to how to adjust the actions if I changed my mind or if something was changed in my configuration because of an update. > Suspend has moved to the system menu, I don't see the selection on the menu. I see lock screen, logout and shutdown. and hibernate is gone I do believe > because it is quite broken on a lot of systems currently. Hibernate is broken on my system also. It does no noticeable damage with the short cycling back to a live system again. Suspend on the other hand results in an unstable system and an fsck on reboot. > >> A few days ago, I knew how to prevent closing the display lid on my >> laptop w/o having it go into suspend. today, I am at a loss to how to >> change my power management settings. > > System -> Preferences -> More Preferences -> Power Management. Also > left or right click on gnome-power-manager and select Preferences. Same > app. The features where one could change the action for closing the laptop display are missing on both this location and on the right or left click on the applet and choosing properties. I end up with the same properties adjustments available. (not very many options as before). > >> I know that there were bug reports requesting removal of the options on >> computers that are presently incapable of successfully going into >> suspend or into hibernate. It does not seem rationale for settings to >> not be easily manageable as if the obstacles preventing those that have >> problems on their systems presently because of lack of resolution in the >> development arena are slower than would be expected. >> >> Removing the features seems like a move to stifle legitimate bug reports >> and hide a legitimate failure on the power management scene. >> >> I hope to see reversal of the degradation of the power manager to yet >> another battery charge indicator. > > Again, the only thing I see gone is the suspend/hibernate options. I figured that I would see if these missing features could be re-instated with the configuration manager and noticed that the same state held true for the editor. It was more cryptic but was not very customizable. Though this change is nothing to become extremely upset with. I was upset enough to contemplate trying out other desktops because of foreseen advancements going into rather worthless and barely configurable states. I tried KDE for a short spell and noticed it was not much more configurable or feature rich. I switched back to gnome, but am upset with regressions from pretty decent feature premieres. Thanks for your comments. Hopefully gnome-power-manager becomes more of a manager and not just a figurehead. Jim From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 16 03:30:04 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:30:04 -0800 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1140060604.13537.13.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:16 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > There were items in properties where you could adjust the actions taken > for certain situations like closing the display lid. I selected for the > action for closing the lid to do nothing. I really don't use the > hibernate or suspend feature myself. I still however would like to be > able to disable or enable the way power management works on my laptop in > a fairly intuitive manner. I would not know now as to how to adjust the > actions if I changed my mind or if something was changed in my > configuration because of an update. I still have those features. > > Suspend has moved to the system menu, > > I don't see the selection on the menu. I see lock screen, logout and > shutdown. I had to reboot after my updates to see the new menu. Maybe a logout / login would have been enough, but I wanted a new kernel. > and hibernate is gone I do believe > > because it is quite broken on a lot of systems currently. > > Hibernate is broken on my system also. It does no noticeable damage with > the short cycling back to a live system again. Suspend on the other hand > results in an unstable system and an fsck on reboot. There are those that hibernate (suspend to disk) would cause major problems. > I figured that I would see if these missing features could be > re-instated with the configuration manager and noticed that the same > state held true for the editor. It was more cryptic but was not very > customizable. As I said, I still have this config option, and I'm running the latest gnome-power-manager from rawhide. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 03:41:09 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:41:09 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:16 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 21:16 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > >> I noticed that the power manager is starting to be pretty much a battery > >> applet with a few less features. What is this crippling supposed to > >> accomplish? > > > > The only thing I see missing is the options to suspend or hibernate. > > There were items in properties where you could adjust the actions taken > for certain situations like closing the display lid. I selected for the > action for closing the lid to do nothing. I really don't use the > hibernate or suspend feature myself. I still however would like to be > able to disable or enable the way power management works on my laptop in > a fairly intuitive manner. I would not know now as to how to adjust the > actions if I changed my mind or if something was changed in my > configuration because of an update. This is still there for me. Has hal crashed (since in that case, it would probably not show things). Alternately, are you running the newest SELinux policy (which has fixes for changes in how HAL works) > > Suspend has moved to the system menu, > > I don't see the selection on the menu. I see lock screen, logout and > shutdown. Have you logged out since upgrading to gnome-panel-2.13.90-3 or later? > and hibernate is gone I do believe > > because it is quite broken on a lot of systems currently. > > Hibernate is broken on my system also. It does no noticeable damage with > the short cycling back to a live system again. Suspend on the other hand > results in an unstable system and an fsck on reboot. Hibernate should be fixed in the 1955 kernel tomorrow (which will also be in test3) Jeremy From stanfinley at comcast.net Thu Feb 16 03:35:34 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:35:34 -0700 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140060604.13537.13.camel@ender> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140060604.13537.13.camel@ender> Message-ID: <1140060934.3504.3.camel@stantonfinley.org> On my system (HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook) the battery symbol is no longer even visible. I can still see the power cord symbol though. The menu option "Computer sleep type:" is blank with no options. Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From bkoz at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 03:41:47 2006 From: bkoz at redhat.com (Benjamin Kosnik) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:41:47 -0600 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> Message-ID: <20060215214147.d3f65c38.bkoz@redhat.com> > System -> Preferences -> More Preferences -> Power Management. Why hide it here? It used to be one right click away. Now it's in a menu most of us rarely see. I find it odd that power management is hidden, and "personal file sharing" is in the top-level preferences menu. Is there any rhyme or reason for these choices? If so, can you enlighten me? -benjamin From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 16 03:50:53 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:50:53 -0800 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <20060215214147.d3f65c38.bkoz@redhat.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <20060215214147.d3f65c38.bkoz@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140061853.2437.0.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 21:41 -0600, Benjamin Kosnik wrote: > Why hide it here? It used to be one right click away. > > Now it's in a menu most of us rarely see. I find it odd that power > management is hidden, and "personal file sharing" is in the top-level > preferences menu. > > Is there any rhyme or reason for these choices? If so, can you > enlighten me? We aren't hiding it. It is still available through gnome-power-manager. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Thu Feb 16 04:21:03 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:21:03 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140060934.3504.3.camel@stantonfinley.org> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140060604.13537.13.camel@ender> <1140060934.3504.3.camel@stantonfinley.org> Message-ID: <43F3FDAF.8020503@insight.rr.com> Stanton Finley wrote: > On my system (HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook) the battery symbol is no > longer even visible. I can still see the power cord symbol though. The > menu option "Computer sleep type:" is blank with no options. > > Stanton Finley > http://stanton-finley.net/ > That is all I noticed. As Jeremy suggested about HAL possibly crashing, I checked services and noticed haldaemon was checked but was not running. I started haldaemon and checked the properties again on the applet and the choices were again available to customize selections for actions. I guess a relabeling of my system is in order. I already have the latest updates. Jim From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Thu Feb 16 04:29:06 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:29:06 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> Jeremy Katz wrote: >> >> There were items in properties where you could adjust the actions >> taken for certain situations like closing the display lid. I >> selected for the action for closing the lid to do nothing. I really >> don't use the hibernate or suspend feature myself. I still however >> would like to be able to disable or enable the way power management >> works on my laptop in a fairly intuitive manner. I would not know >> now as to how to adjust the actions if I changed my mind or if >> something was changed in my configuration because of an update. > > > This is still there for me. Has hal crashed (since in that case, it > would probably not show things). Alternately, are you running the > newest SELinux policy (which has fixes for changes in how HAL works) You were correct that HAL was DOA. I changed to permissive and started haldaemon and checked properties again. The choices were once again visible. (minus the hibernate/suspend menu.) > > >>> Suspend has moved to the system menu, >> >> I don't see the selection on the menu. I see lock screen, logout >> and shutdown. > > > Have you logged out since upgrading to gnome-panel-2.13.90-3 or > later? I logged out, switched to kde and then back to gnome. I still do not see the suspend option. I will forcibly kill the server and see if a respawn shows the suspend choice afterwards. > > >> and hibernate is gone I do believe >> >>> because it is quite broken on a lot of systems currently. >> >> Hibernate is broken on my system also. It does no noticeable damage >> with the short cycling back to a live system again. Suspend on the >> other hand results in an unstable system and an fsck on reboot. > > > Hibernate should be fixed in the 1955 kernel tomorrow (which will > also be in test3) Great news! Thanks! > > Jeremy > -- It's the same old story; boy meets beer, boy drinks beer... boy gets another beer. -- Cheers From justin.conover at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 04:28:16 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:28:16 -0600 Subject: ddxLoad.c: In function 'XkbDDXCompileNamedKeymap' Message-ID: Trying to rebuild a chunk of xserver and I keep getting this: ddxLoad.c: In function 'XkbDDXCompileNamedKeymap': ddxLoad.c:246: error: 'XkbBinDirectory' undeclared (first use in this function) ddxLoad.c:246: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ddxLoad.c:246: error: for each function it appears in.) ddxLoad.c: In function 'XkbDDXCompileKeymapByNames': ddxLoad.c:345: error: 'XkbBinDirectory' undeclared (first use in this function) make[1]: *** [ddxLoad.lo] Error 1 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... ccache gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I../include -I../include -I../include -I../include -I../include -I../include -I../include -DHAVE_DIX_CONFIG_H -DXFree86Server -DXFree86LOADER -DHAVE_XKB_CONFIG_H -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -fno-strict-aliasing -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -DDFLT_XKB_CONFIG_ROOT=/etc/X11/xkb -I/opt/fdo/include -I/opt/fdo/include/X11/Xtrans -I/opt/fdo/include/X11/fonts -I../include -I../include -I../Xext -I../composite -I../damageext -I../xfixes -I../Xi -I../mi -I../miext/shadow -I../miext/damage -I../render -I../randr -I../fb -g -O2 -MT ddxList.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ddxList.Tpo -c ddxList.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/ddxList.o ddxList.c: In function 'XkbDDXListComponent': ddxList.c:179: error: 'XkbBinDirectory' undeclared (first use in this function) ddxList.c:179: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ddxList.c:179: error: for each function it appears in.) make[1]: *** [ddxList.lo] Error 1 ccache gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I../include -I../include -I../include -I../include -I../include -I../include -I../include -DHAVE_DIX_CONFIG_H -DXFree86Server -DXFree86LOADER -DHAVE_XKB_CONFIG_H -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -fno-strict-aliasing -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -DDFLT_XKB_CONFIG_ROOT=/etc/X11/xkb -I/opt/fdo/include -I/opt/fdo/include/X11/Xtrans -I/opt/fdo/include/X11/fonts -I../include -I../include -I../Xext -I../composite -I../damageext -I../xfixes -I../Xi -I../mi -I../miext/shadow -I../miext/damage -I../render -I../randr -I../fb -g -O2 -MT ddxConfig.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ddxConfig.Tpo -c ddxConfig.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/ddxConfig.o make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/justin/cvs/xgl/xserver/xorg/xkb' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Anyone know what is causing this or if there is some lib\*-devel package I'm missing? 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Here is the backtrace: (gdb) run Starting program: /sbin/kudzu Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. rdb (addr=16292) at sys.c:232 232 HALT_SYS(); (gdb) bt #0 rdb (addr=16292) at sys.c:232 #1 0x00000000004146fa in fetch_data_byte (offset=Variable "offset" is not available.) at decode.c:308 #2 0x000000000041cd3b in x86emuOp_add_byte_RM_R (op1=Variable "op1" is not available.) at ops.c:125 #3 0x0000000000415191 in X86EMU_exec () at decode.c:123 #4 0x000000000041417e in real_call (registers=0x7fffffd65470) at thunk.c:200 #5 0x0000000000413690 in get_edid_supported () at vbe.c:262 #6 0x0000000000411287 in ddcProbe (probeClass=CLASS_MONITOR, probeFlags=Variable "probeFlags" is not available.) at ddc.c:423 #7 0x0000000000408afe in probeDevices (probeClass=CLASS_UNSPEC, probeBus=-9, probeFlags=1) at kudzu.c:806 #8 0x0000000000406049 in main (argc=1, argv=Variable "argv" is not available.) at hwconf.c:938 #9 0x00002abd43933024 in __libc_start_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #10 0x0000000000403899 in _start () #11 0x00007fffffd65cd8 in ?? () #12 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () (gdb) bt full #0 rdb (addr=16292) at sys.c:232 No locals. #1 0x00000000004146fa in fetch_data_byte (offset=Variable "offset" is not available.) at decode.c:308 No locals. #2 0x000000000041cd3b in x86emuOp_add_byte_RM_R (op1=Variable "op1" is not available.) at ops.c:125 mod = 1 rl = 0 rh = 0 destoffset = 16292 destreg = Variable "destreg" is not available. My experience with gdb is rather limited, so let me know if there is any other info I can provide. Looks like so far this affects x86_64 users with nVidia graphics cards. Jonathan From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 03:42:36 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:42:36 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140060604.13537.13.camel@ender> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140060604.13537.13.camel@ender> Message-ID: <604aa7910602151942v166c8410md351c3af1bdbb56f@mail.gmail.com> On 2/15/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > I had to reboot after my updates to see the new menu. Maybe a logout / > login would have been enough, but I wanted a new kernel. Reboot pretty much every day.. and i am rawhide synced.. i dont see a new menu either. Does the new menu layout only show up if you have a system that supports suspend? Can you post a screenie of what it is suppsoe to look like? -jef From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Thu Feb 16 04:38:59 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:38:59 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> Jim Cornette wrote: > Jeremy Katz wrote: > >>> >>> There were items in properties where you could adjust the actions >>> taken for certain situations like closing the display lid. I >>> selected for the action for closing the lid to do nothing. I >>> really don't use the hibernate or suspend feature myself. I still >>> however would like to be able to disable or enable the way power >>> management works on my laptop in a fairly intuitive manner. I >>> would not know now as to how to adjust the actions if I changed >>> my mind or if something was changed in my configuration because >>> of an update. >> >> >> >> This is still there for me. Has hal crashed (since in that case, >> it would probably not show things). Alternately, are you running >> the newest SELinux policy (which has fixes for changes in how HAL >> works) > > > You were correct that HAL was DOA. I changed to permissive and > started haldaemon and checked properties again. The choices were once > again visible. (minus the hibernate/suspend menu.) > >> >> >>>> Suspend has moved to the system menu, >>> >>> >>> I don't see the selection on the menu. I see lock screen, logout >>> and shutdown. >> >> >> >> Have you logged out since upgrading to gnome-panel-2.13.90-3 or >> later? > > > I logged out, switched to kde and then back to gnome. I still do not > see the suspend option. I will forcibly kill the server and see if a > respawn shows the suspend choice afterwards. > Susend now shows on the menu but shutdown now is missing after killing X with ctl-alt-backspace. lockscreen logout jim Suspend (no shutdown displayed) There is some progress. Maybe things will be as designed after the relabel and reboot. Thanks! From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 16 04:44:27 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:44:27 -0800 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602151942v166c8410md351c3af1bdbb56f@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140060604.13537.13.camel@ender> <604aa7910602151942v166c8410md351c3af1bdbb56f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140065068.2437.2.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:42 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Can you post a screenie of what it is suppsoe to look like? http://geek.j2solutions.net/shots/suspend.jpg -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 16 04:46:52 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:46:52 -0800 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 23:38 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > > Susend now shows on the menu but shutdown now is missing after killing X > with ctl-alt-backspace. > > lockscreen > logout jim > Suspend > (no shutdown displayed) > > There is some progress. Maybe things will be as designed after the > relabel and reboot. This is by design at this point. Upstream(?) feels that shutdown shouldn't be an option, just suspend. Personally I think that's a load of crap, but that's just my personal opinion. I have to use shut down a lot w/ my laptop since hibernate isn't working and my laptop will eat the battery in very short time if I leave it suspended and unplugged. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 04:52:01 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:52:01 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> Message-ID: <604aa7910602152052w5c896d39k1d156772e6ffa527@mail.gmail.com> On 2/15/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > This is by design at this point. Upstream(?) feels that shutdown > shouldn't be an option, just suspend. Personally I think that's a load > of crap, but that's just my personal opinion. I have to use shut down a > lot w/ my laptop since hibernate isn't working and my laptop will eat > the battery in very short time if I leave it suspended and unplugged. how do you cleanly boot into an update kernel without a shutdown option? Is upstream honestly saying that shutting a laptop down to reboot into a security update kernel isn't an important operation? -jef From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 16 04:57:31 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:57:31 -0800 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602152052w5c896d39k1d156772e6ffa527@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <604aa7910602152052w5c896d39k1d156772e6ffa527@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140065851.2437.7.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 23:52 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > how do you cleanly boot into an update kernel without a shutdown option? > Is upstream honestly saying that shutting a laptop down to reboot into > a security update kernel isn't an important operation? > Yeah, I just realized there is no reboot option due to no shutdown option. 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In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602152052w5c896d39k1d156772e6ffa527@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <604aa7910602152052w5c896d39k1d156772e6ffa527@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140065907.2437.9.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 23:52 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > how do you cleanly boot into an update kernel without a shutdown option? > Is upstream honestly saying that shutting a laptop down to reboot into > a security update kernel isn't an important operation? One (horrible) argument is that the update software (pup) asks you to reboot when you install new kernels. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From berryja at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 05:08:01 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:08:01 -0600 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> Message-ID: <8767947e0602152108v31db184k6bfe1ab0bf5657fa@mail.gmail.com> On 2/15/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 23:38 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > > Susend now shows on the menu but shutdown now is missing after killing X > > with ctl-alt-backspace. > > > > lockscreen > > logout jim > > Suspend > > (no shutdown displayed) > > > > There is some progress. Maybe things will be as designed after the > > relabel and reboot. > > This is by design at this point. Upstream(?) feels that shutdown > shouldn't be an option, just suspend. Personally I think that's a load > of crap, but that's just my personal opinion. I have to use shut down a > lot w/ my laptop since hibernate isn't working and my laptop will eat > the battery in very short time if I leave it suspended and unplugged. Whoa, when did this happen? At the moment, I still have a Shutdown option rather than suspend and I didn't see anything Gnome related in the update I just did (nothing obvious, at least). I would have to agree with you; you should be able to shut down from the menu. As Jeff notes, you cannot change kernels without rebooting (unless we get Xen really working...). And as you note, suspend still uses some power and it is fairly likely that suspend or hibernate will not work properly on some (most?) systems. I think the work on it is great and maybe one day things will all work well enough to rely on it, but why take away the nice Shutdown menu option? I assume you could still do a CLI shutdown, but that requires root (Or does it? man reboot seems to imply that users can use shutdown, halt, and reboot (when logged in locally). I could test it, but that makes it difficult to finish this email...). This is not something I wish to see come up hundreds or thosands of times on the Fedora users list... : ) Jonathan From davej at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 05:10:57 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 00:10:57 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> Message-ID: <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 08:46:52PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 23:38 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > > Susend now shows on the menu but shutdown now is missing after killing X > > with ctl-alt-backspace. > > > > lockscreen > > logout jim > > Suspend > > (no shutdown displayed) > > > > There is some progress. Maybe things will be as designed after the > > relabel and reboot. > > This is by design at this point. Upstream(?) feels that shutdown > shouldn't be an option, just suspend. Personally I think that's a load > of crap, but that's just my personal opinion. I have to use shut down a > lot w/ my laptop since hibernate isn't working and my laptop will eat > the battery in very short time if I leave it suspended and unplugged. Upstream taking funny mushrooms: Film at 11. We're a way off from suspend working universally, and even if we were in good shape there, there are many valid reasons to shutdown. - Upgrading to a new kernel is now one extra step (log out, and then shutdown) (And users expecting it to resume back into their desktop [why wouldn't they? They selected suspend] will be in for a shock, you can't suspend one kernel, and resume into another version). - Adding/Removing hardware will make very strange things happen when you resume. (imagine the case where you upgrade a video card to one that needs a different driver -- before, we would fail to start X, and run system-config-display. On the resume path, we just try to jump back into the X driver for hardware we no longer have, which is guaranteed to cause fireworks) - Like a responsible end-user, you apply your updates, which update a bunch of system daemons. With the suspend/resume scenario, you now have to restart all those by hand, as the boot process will resume us to a state where we're running the older versions. - You install a bunch of Xorg updates. Again, we'll resume back into the old X, instead of the new one. Users will have to ctrl-alt-backspace to run the new one. Seriously, this idea is crack, and bad crack at that. Dave From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 16 05:13:38 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:13:38 -0800 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602152108v31db184k6bfe1ab0bf5657fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <8767947e0602152108v31db184k6bfe1ab0bf5657fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140066819.2437.17.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 23:08 -0600, Jonathan Berry wrote: > Whoa, when did this happen? At the moment, I still have a Shutdown > option rather than suspend and I didn't see anything Gnome related in > the update I just did (nothing obvious, at least). I would have to > agree with you; you should be able to shut down from the menu. As > Jeff notes, you cannot change kernels without rebooting (unless we get > Xen really working...). And as you note, suspend still uses some > power and it is fairly likely that suspend or hibernate will not work > properly on some (most?) systems. I think the work on it is great and > maybe one day things will all work well enough to rely on it, but why > take away the nice Shutdown menu option? I assume you could still do > a CLI shutdown, but that requires root (Or does it? man reboot seems > to imply that users can use shutdown, halt, and reboot (when logged in > locally). I could test it, but that makes it difficult to finish this > email...). This is not something I wish to see come up hundreds or > thosands of times on the Fedora users list... : ) Another (horrible) argument is that you can log out to GDM, and from GDM shut down or reboot. Again, horrible argument. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 05:21:10 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 00:21:10 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140065907.2437.9.camel@ender> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <604aa7910602152052w5c896d39k1d156772e6ffa527@mail.gmail.com> <1140065907.2437.9.camel@ender> Message-ID: <604aa7910602152121p524575d4g3da2ec790ffffe36@mail.gmail.com> On 2/15/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > One (horrible) argument is that the update software (pup) asks you to > reboot when you install new kernels. So now all package management software across all distributions has to have an exhaustive list of packages that might need a full reboot to operate correctly? That's a lot to ask for methinks. Especially when there is no explicit way to mark a package at the packaging level in either debs or rpms afaik to hint that a reboot might be needed for correct operation. Certaintly kernels arent the only things that require a reboot for correct operation after update. Doesn't udev require this as well because its started from initrd? Do selinux policy updates need a reboot for correct operation? This leads directly to the path of "always reboot after applying any updates" just to be safe. Please tell me the shutdown option is still at the gdm login screen on your system at least. I guess i get shutdown in my menu still because i dont have suspend available on this desktop... thank goodness for small miracles. -jef From stanfinley at comcast.net Thu Feb 16 05:22:56 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:22:56 -0700 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <43F3FDAF.8020503@insight.rr.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140060604.13537.13.camel@ender> <1140060934.3504.3.camel@stantonfinley.org> <43F3FDAF.8020503@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1140067377.3504.5.camel@stantonfinley.org> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 23:21 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > Stanton Finley wrote: > > On my system (HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook) the battery symbol is no > > longer even visible. I can still see the power cord symbol though. The > > menu option "Computer sleep type:" is blank with no options. > > > > Stanton Finley > > http://stanton-finley.net/ > > > > That is all I noticed. As Jeremy suggested about HAL possibly crashing, > I checked services and noticed haldaemon was checked but was not running. > > I started haldaemon and checked the properties again on the applet and > the choices were again available to customize selections for actions. > > I guess a relabeling of my system is in order. I already have the latest > updates. > > Jim > From stanfinley at comcast.net Thu Feb 16 05:31:14 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:31:14 -0700 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <43F3FDAF.8020503@insight.rr.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140060604.13537.13.camel@ender> <1140060934.3504.3.camel@stantonfinley.org> <43F3FDAF.8020503@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1140067874.3504.14.camel@stantonfinley.org> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 23:21 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > Stanton Finley wrote: > > On my system (HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook) the battery symbol is no > > longer even visible. I can still see the power cord symbol though. The > > menu option "Computer sleep type:" is blank with no options. > > > > Stanton Finley > > http://stanton-finley.net/ > > > > That is all I noticed. As Jeremy suggested about HAL possibly crashing, > I checked services and noticed haldaemon was checked but was not running. > > I started haldaemon and checked the properties again on the applet and > the choices were again available to customize selections for actions. > > I guess a relabeling of my system is in order. I already have the latest > updates. > > Jim > My HAL daemon was not running and in fact would not start until I changed the SELinux policy from enforcing to permissive. Then upon reboot HAL started, the battery symbol came back and the power management options became visible in the Gnome Power Manager GUI. BTW I notice that the system-config-securitylevel GUI no longer has a check box option for "relabel on next boot" as it had in FC4. Why is this and could you please remind me what the command to do so is? Thanks. Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu Feb 16 07:24:28 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:24:28 +0100 Subject: DNS resolving problems In-Reply-To: <43F40188.4050206@wudika.de> References: <1140049371.2706.6.camel@paradise.siancu.net> <200602151402.15847.jvdias@redhat.com> <43F40188.4050206@wudika.de> Message-ID: <43F428AC.6090204@gmx.de> On 16.02.2006 05:37, Patrick von der Hagen wrote: > I have the same problem like Stelian, but since I changed my provider > recently, I didn't suspect Rawhide. However, when following your > steps, I get this: > [root at localhost ~]# host www.union-invest.de > www.union-invest.de has address 193.24.35.212 > ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached > ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached sorry, this is not a rawhide or fedora problem. i guarantee you that my fc3 caching-nameserver has no dns-problems but with www.union-invest.de it has. $ host www.union-invest.de Host www.union-invest.de not found: 2(SERVFAIL) $ host www.union-invest.de Host www.union-invest.de not found: 2(SERVFAIL) $ host redhat.de redhat.de has address 66.187.229.16 $ host 193.24.35.212 Host 212.35.24.193.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) $ ping 193.24.35.212 PING 193.24.35.212 (193.24.35.212) 56(84) bytes of data. --- 193.24.35.212 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 9006ms $ host www.union-invest.de www.union-invest.de has address 193.24.35.212 $ cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 127.0.0.1 -- shrek-m From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu Feb 16 08:02:30 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:02:30 +0100 Subject: DNS resolving problems In-Reply-To: <43F428AC.6090204@gmx.de> References: <1140049371.2706.6.camel@paradise.siancu.net> <200602151402.15847.jvdias@redhat.com> <43F40188.4050206@wudika.de> <43F428AC.6090204@gmx.de> Message-ID: <43F43196.4080506@gmx.de> On 16.02.2006 08:24, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > $ host www.union-invest.de > Host www.union-invest.de not found: 2(SERVFAIL) > [...] $ host www.union-invest.de > www.union-invest.de has address 193.24.35.212 30 minutes later, the same fc3 caching-nameserver $ host -tns www.union-invest.de Host www.union-invest.de not found: 2(SERVFAIL) $ host -tns www.union-invest.de Host www.union-invest.de not found: 2(SERVFAIL) $ host -tns www.union-invest.de Host www.union-invest.de not found: 2(SERVFAIL) $ host -tns www.union-invest.de Host www.union-invest.de not found: 2(SERVFAIL) $ host -tns www.union-invest.de $ host -tns www.union-invest.de $ host -tns redhat.de redhat.de name server ns1.redhat.com. redhat.de name server ns2.redhat.com. redhat.de name server ns3.redhat.com. $ host -tns www.union-invest.de $ -- shrek-m From alan at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 11:19:43 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:19:43 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060216111943.GB23887@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 12:10:57AM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > - Like a responsible end-user, you apply your updates, which update a bunch > of system daemons. With the suspend/resume scenario, you now have to restart > all those by hand, as the boot process will resume us to a state where we're > running the older versions. Our instructions even tell users to shut down/reboot in some cases. Given this is a security level idiocy can we at least get it stuck on the FC5 final blockers. Alan From robert.chiodini-1 at ksc.nasa.gov Thu Feb 16 11:44:39 2006 From: robert.chiodini-1 at ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:44:39 -0500 Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: <1140037200.2449.9.camel@niobe> References: <1140037200.2449.9.camel@niobe> Message-ID: <1140090279.3662.11.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:00 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > hello, > > > i use a d-link DWL-G650+ with the ACX111-Chipset. Until now, i used > ndiswrapper (which is working quite well also with wpa_supplicant) > > As new NetworkManager supports WPA too, i would give him a try, if it > would support ACX111. > > Somebody found a list of supported chipsets by NetworkManager? > > Roger > Roger, http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ Has drivers. Unfortunately you will need to recompile them as new kernels are released. I believe Ubuntu uses them and they work very well on my Ubuntu laptop and a DWL-650+ (no 'G' in the P/N). Bob... From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Thu Feb 16 11:57:48 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:57:48 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140067874.3504.14.camel@stantonfinley.org> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140060604.13537.13.camel@ender> <1140060934.3504.3.camel@stantonfinley.org> <43F3FDAF.8020503@insight.rr.com> <1140067874.3504.14.camel@stantonfinley.org> Message-ID: <43F468BC.80107@insight.rr.com> Stanton Finley wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 23:21 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: >> Stanton Finley wrote: >>> On my system (HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook) the battery symbol is no >>> longer even visible. I can still see the power cord symbol though. The >>> menu option "Computer sleep type:" is blank with no options. >>> >>> Stanton Finley >>> http://stanton-finley.net/ >>> >> That is all I noticed. As Jeremy suggested about HAL possibly crashing, >> I checked services and noticed haldaemon was checked but was not running. >> >> I started haldaemon and checked the properties again on the applet and >> the choices were again available to customize selections for actions. >> >> I guess a relabeling of my system is in order. I already have the latest >> updates. >> >> Jim >> > My HAL daemon was not running and in fact would not start until I > changed the SELinux policy from enforcing to permissive. Then upon > reboot HAL started, the battery symbol came back and the power > management options became visible in the Gnome Power Manager GUI. > > BTW I notice that the system-config-securitylevel GUI no longer has a > check box option for "relabel on next boot" as it had in FC4. Why is > this and could you please remind me what the command to do so is? > > Thanks. > > Stanton Finley > http://stanton-finley.net/ > touch /.autorelabel reboot Also, you could show the grub menu, press 'a' for append, add autorelabel on the kernel options line. Personally, I reboot into runlevel 1 with selinux=0, run 'fixfiles relabel' and the system relabels. The system also goes into relabel on any boot from no selinux to SELinux active. I believe touch /.autorelabel followed by a reboot is all that is needed. (As root of course. Breaking to the removal of the shutdown command from the menu, I guess filing this issue upstream is best. What do I do with the power button on my panel? - :-) After relabeling my system, haldaemon started up correctly and the menus for configuring g-p-manager showed up in a functional way. Jim From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 12:10:16 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:10:16 -0500 Subject: Has procedure to add disks changed on FC5? Message-ID: I installed a new ide disk. I used system-config-lvm to create a new lvm. Then mounted it, did cp -ax / /mnt/7200rpm. I can mount the drive fine, but I can't seem to switch root. I edited /etc/fstab on the new drive to say: /dev/7200rpm/LogVol02 / ext3 defaults 1 1 I added this to grub: title Fedora Core (2.6.15-1.1948_FC5) root (hd0,2) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.1948_FC5 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.15-1.1948_FC5.img < pvscan -v Wiping cache of LVM-capable devices Wiping internal VG cache Walking through all physical volumes PV /dev/hdb4 VG 7200rpm lvm2 [55.50 GB / 0 free] PV /dev/hda5 VG VolGroup00 lvm2 [55.56 GB / 32.00 MB free] PV /dev/hdb3 lvm2 [196.11 MB] Total: 3 [111.26 GB] / in use: 2 [111.07 GB] / in no VG: 1 [196.11 MB] lvm> lvscan -v Finding all logical volumes ACTIVE '/dev/7200rpm/LogVol03' [2.00 GB] inherit ACTIVE '/dev/7200rpm/LogVol02' [53.50 GB] inherit ACTIVE '/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00' [53.59 GB] inherit ACTIVE '/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01' [1.94 GB] inherit lvm> vgscan -v Wiping cache of LVM-capable devices Wiping internal VG cache Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while... Finding all volume groups Finding volume group "7200rpm" Found volume group "7200rpm" using metadata type lvm2 Finding volume group "VolGroup00" Found volume group "VolGroup00" using metadata type lvm2 From monty19 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 16 12:16:45 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:16:45 +0900 Subject: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! (Xen) Message-ID: Is anyone else getting error messages, if they start yum both on the host and guest to the effect of "soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" The guest terminal throws more information and stop responding, but after several seconds behaving normally where it left off. From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 12:38:29 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:38:29 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602152121p524575d4g3da2ec790ffffe36@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <604aa7910602152052w5c896d39k1d156772e6ffa527@mail.gmail.com> <1140065907.2437.9.camel@ender> <604aa7910602152121p524575d4g3da2ec790ffffe36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140093509.2586.6.camel@bree.local.net> On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 00:21 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/15/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > > One (horrible) argument is that the update software (pup) asks you to > > reboot when you install new kernels. > > So now all package management software across all distributions has to > have an exhaustive list of packages that might need a full reboot to > operate correctly? That's a lot to ask for methinks. Especially when > there is no explicit way to mark a package at the packaging level in > either debs or rpms afaik to hint that a reboot might be needed for > correct operation. On this tangent, note that with Luke's super spiffy update metadata integration into repomd, we're including a flag that says "this update needs a reboot". Jeremy From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 12:52:47 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:52:47 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140093509.2586.6.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <604aa7910602152052w5c896d39k1d156772e6ffa527@mail.gmail.com> <1140065907.2437.9.camel@ender> <604aa7910602152121p524575d4g3da2ec790ffffe36@mail.gmail.com> <1140093509.2586.6.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <604aa7910602160452y59e3525ey14c467443631448a@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On this tangent, note that with Luke's super spiffy update metadata > integration into repomd, we're including a flag that says "this update > needs a reboot". That's nice... are you saying you are going to make pirut "this needs a reboot" aware and have pirut reboot the system or is this just going to be a notification hint? I had another thought last night... what is upstream's thoughts about suspend/no-shutdown in the menus for livecd gnome desktops? Does suspend in the menus make any sense at all for livecd situations? Does it make sense to have different menu structure for a livecd versus a full install on the same hardware? -jef From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 13:02:48 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:02:48 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602160452y59e3525ey14c467443631448a@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <604aa7910602152052w5c896d39k1d156772e6ffa527@mail.gmail.com> <1140065907.2437.9.camel@ender> <604aa7910602152121p524575d4g3da2ec790ffffe36@mail.gmail.com> <1140093509.2586.6.camel@bree.local.net> <604aa7910602160452y59e3525ey14c467443631448a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140094968.2586.24.camel@bree.local.net> On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 07:52 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/16/06, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > On this tangent, note that with Luke's super spiffy update metadata > > integration into repomd, we're including a flag that says "this update > > needs a reboot". > > That's nice... are you saying you are going to make pirut "this needs > a reboot" aware and have pirut reboot the system or is this just going > to be a notification hint? Well, we can't just reboot the system out from under you. But if you've been testing updating using pup, you've noticed the nice little dialog you get on update sets which include a kernel that asks if you want to reboot[1] > I had another thought last night... what is upstream's thoughts about > suspend/no-shutdown in the menus for livecd gnome desktops? Does > suspend in the menus make any sense at all for livecd situations? > Does it make sense to have different menu structure for a livecd > versus a full install on the same hardware? I think a mountain is being made out of a mole hill here. A suggestion was made[2] and it was tried. Some UI suggestions work well in practice, some don't. As it turns out, the only way to generally find out with UI changes is to try them and see Jeremy [1] There's also a little icon in the package list to help cue the fact that you'll be suggested to reboot after applying the update. Right now, it's using a hard-coded list of packages... once the update metadata is firmed up, it'll use that instead [2] And contrary to Jesse's assertion, it's not really "upstream" at this point -- upstream GNOME isn't shipping g-p-m in 2.14 although it will probably be included for 2.16. There was discussion there about this being a "better" UI, but given all of the reasons people have outlined, it will probably be chalked up to an experiment which didn't work out for this best this time From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl Thu Feb 16 13:30:43 2006 From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:30:43 +0100 Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: <1140090279.3662.11.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <1140037200.2449.9.camel@niobe> <1140090279.3662.11.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20060216133043.GA7596@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 06:44:39AM -0500, Bob Chiodini wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:00 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > > hello, > > > > > > i use a d-link DWL-G650+ with the ACX111-Chipset. Until now, i used > > ndiswrapper (which is working quite well also with wpa_supplicant) > > > > As new NetworkManager supports WPA too, i would give him a try, if it > > would support ACX111. > > > > Somebody found a list of supported chipsets by NetworkManager? > > > > Roger > > > > Roger, > > http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ > > Has drivers. Unfortunately you will need to recompile them as new > kernels are released. I believe Ubuntu uses them and they work very > well on my Ubuntu laptop and a DWL-650+ (no 'G' in the P/N). > > Bob... I'm planning to submit a package with those to Fedora Extras. I've been building RPMs with these for personal use for some time now. Regards, -- Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling Warsaw University | http://www.icm.edu.pl | tel. +48 (22) 5540810 From david at fubar.dk Thu Feb 16 13:37:29 2006 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:37:29 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140097049.6583.3.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 00:10 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > This is by design at this point. Upstream(?) feels that shutdown > > shouldn't be an option, just suspend. No, I don't think is an upstream GNOME thing. Ray? > Seriously, this idea is crack, and bad crack at that. Totally. Note that Shutdown still available when pressing Ctrl+Alt +Delete, but, eh, this is pretty useless as few people know about this. David From fedora at westexe.demon.co.uk Thu Feb 16 13:45:33 2006 From: fedora at westexe.demon.co.uk (James Wilkinson) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:45:33 +0000 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060216134533.GB6036@westexe.demon.co.uk> Bill Nottingham wrote: > For those that see the kudzu segfault, what sort of video hardware > do you have? "nVidia Corporation GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) (rev a1)" (PCI Express, Asus A8N-SLI, nForce 4, x86_64). I haven't tried turning off SELinux yet. James. -- E-mail address: james | The "Power Switch" on ATX supplies, like traffic lights @westexe.demon.co.uk | in Paris, really is just a polite suggestion. | -- Mike Andrews From pbrobinson at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 13:46:16 2006 From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:46:16 +0000 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140097049.6583.3.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> <1140097049.6583.3.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <5256d0b0602160546j400d938eg36e53a9f43bac24c@mail.gmail.com> > On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 00:10 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > > This is by design at this point. Upstream(?) feels that shutdown > > > shouldn't be an option, just suspend. > > No, I don't think is an upstream GNOME thing. Ray? > > > > > Seriously, this idea is crack, and bad crack at that. > > Totally. Note that Shutdown still available when pressing Ctrl+Alt > +Delete, but, eh, this is pretty useless as few people know about this. It should definately be an option... have a suspend, shutdown and reboot button on the dialog. Peter From fedora at westexe.demon.co.uk Thu Feb 16 13:46:50 2006 From: fedora at westexe.demon.co.uk (James Wilkinson) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:46:50 +0000 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <20060216134533.GB6036@westexe.demon.co.uk> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060216134533.GB6036@westexe.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20060216134650.GC6036@westexe.demon.co.uk> I wrote: > "nVidia Corporation GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) (rev a1)" (PCI Express, > Asus A8N-SLI, nForce 4, x86_64). Sorry, I should have said: I'm using stock Fedora packages. I'm not using the nVidia drivers. James. -- Home: james | And the cuckoo isn't cooing, @westexe.demon.co.uk | But he's cucking and he's ooing, Work: James.Wilkinson | And a Pooh is simply pooh-ing @sparex.co.uk | Like a bird. -- 'Noise', by Pooh From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 14:11:06 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:11:06 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0602160546j400d938eg36e53a9f43bac24c@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> <1140097049.6583.3.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> <5256d0b0602160546j400d938eg36e53a9f43bac24c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602160611h49fbbdc4nbc9e3f934b124710@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, Peter Robinson wrote: > It should definately be an option... have a suspend, shutdown and > reboot button on the dialog. ideas born from a strong cup of morning coffee: One button on the menu which pulls up a timed dialog with 5 buttons cancel,reboot,shutdown,suspend and configure. Have the default timed action in the dialog be configurable so people who commonly suspend make suspend their default, people who most commonly reboot make reboot their default and so on... and make the length of time to wait for dialog interaction configurable. Make the text of single menu item which brings up the dialog match the text of the default configured action to some degree, have the tooltip be more verbose about what the one menu item can do. Choose a default choice for action and timeout by paper rock scissors or thunderdome death match. On the first run of the timed dialog for any user account also pop up the configure dialog(if the system admin hasn't locked down this configuration choice) so the user can choose which default action the menu button will take and be made aware that it can be reconfigured later without any real hassle. -jef"god i need a hair cut, i just need to be wearing my old jean jacket with the airbrushed Poison album cover on the back and this retro-look would be complete"spaleta From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Thu Feb 16 14:11:06 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:11:06 +0800 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140093509.2586.6.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <604aa7910602152052w5c896d39k1d156772e6ffa527@mail.gmail.com> <1140065907.2437.9.camel@ender> <604aa7910602152121p524575d4g3da2ec790ffffe36@mail.gmail.com> <1140093509.2586.6.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43F487FA.8080908@herakles.homelinux.org> Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 00:21 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > >>On 2/15/06, Jesse Keating wrote: >> >>>One (horrible) argument is that the update software (pup) asks you to >>>reboot when you install new kernels. >> >>So now all package management software across all distributions has to >>have an exhaustive list of packages that might need a full reboot to >>operate correctly? That's a lot to ask for methinks. Especially when >>there is no explicit way to mark a package at the packaging level in >>either debs or rpms afaik to hint that a reboot might be needed for >>correct operation. > > > On this tangent, note that with Luke's super spiffy update metadata > integration into repomd, we're including a flag that says "this update > needs a reboot". If several packages may require a reboot, then this is starting to make backing out changes a good deal tricker than just rebooting the previous good kernel. What's proposed for this? "This goes with that" version affinity? -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From roger at gwch.net Thu Feb 16 14:29:40 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:29:40 +0100 (CET) Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: <20060216133043.GA7596@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> References: <1140037200.2449.9.camel@niobe> <1140090279.3662.11.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> <20060216133043.GA7596@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> Message-ID: <50284.193.223.193.103.1140100180.squirrel@www.gwch.net> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 06:44:39AM -0500, Bob Chiodini wrote: >> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:00 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: >> > hello, >> > >> > >> > i use a d-link DWL-G650+ with the ACX111-Chipset. Until now, i used >> > ndiswrapper (which is working quite well also with wpa_supplicant) >> > >> > As new NetworkManager supports WPA too, i would give him a try, if it >> > would support ACX111. >> > >> > Somebody found a list of supported chipsets by NetworkManager? >> > >> > Roger >> > >> >> Roger, >> >> http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ >> >> Has drivers. Unfortunately you will need to recompile them as new >> kernels are released. I believe Ubuntu uses them and they work very >> well on my Ubuntu laptop and a DWL-650+ (no 'G' in the P/N). >> >> Bob... > > I'm planning to submit a package with those to Fedora Extras. > I've been building RPMs with these for personal use for some time > now. > > Regards, > > -- 1) This is good news, having those in extras soon 2) i would like to now, if those drivers are networkmanager-enabled. As i know, ndiswrapper isn't. And as networkmanager supports now wpa i would like this :-D Roger From davej at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 14:43:52 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:43:52 -0500 Subject: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! (Xen) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060216144352.GE13188@redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 09:16:45PM +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: > Is anyone else getting error messages, if they start yum both on the host > and guest to the effect of "soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" The guest > terminal throws more information and stop responding, but after several > seconds behaving normally where it left off. Please file a bug, with the output of dmesg after one of these has occured. It could be indicative of a real problem, or it could be a false-positive that needs us to poke the watchdog timer in some routine where we currently spend too much time. Dave From dcbw at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 14:55:26 2006 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:55:26 -0500 Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: <1140037200.2449.9.camel@niobe> References: <1140037200.2449.9.camel@niobe> Message-ID: <1140101727.2543.4.camel@dhcp83-74.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:00 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > hello, > > > i use a d-link DWL-G650+ with the ACX111-Chipset. Until now, i used > ndiswrapper (which is working quite well also with wpa_supplicant) > > As new NetworkManager supports WPA too, i would give him a try, if it > would support ACX111. No, these drivers will not support WPA currently, for a few reasons: 1) If you want a driver at least capabable of WPA, you need to use the "softmac" branch of these drivers, ie: http://acx100.erley.org/acxsm-20060215.tar.bz2 The straight "acx" drivers (without the "sm") are not capable of WPA. 2) They don't have the necessary enc_capa bits set in acx_ioctl_get_range() to show that they do actually support WPA. A patch needs to get applied to add those, sort of like the patch for ipw2x00 that I upstreamed a week ago or so: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-netdev&m=113864777900855&w=2 > Somebody found a list of supported chipsets by NetworkManager? Any driver that sanely supports Linux Wireless Extensions should work. There isn't a canonical list; though there should be. Unfortunately drivers are often in flux (ie, madwifi) and change their support based on the day of the week... Dan From w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk Thu Feb 16 15:15:09 2006 From: w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:15:09 +0000 Subject: pup and proxy problem Message-ID: <1140102909.2900.5.camel@billmurray.pp.rl.ac.uk> Hello there, I thought I would try 'pup' instead of 'yum update' for my software updates. Normally I set up my proxies using: /etc/profile.d/proxy.sh which I wrote to set a proxy depending upon where I am. I guess this is not called by the pup session, as it crashes after failing to find a baseurl. Where should I put this script so pup will pick it up? Even better, it should be synched to networkmanagers activities... Thanks, Bill From dwalsh at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 15:25:23 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:25:23 -0500 Subject: Issue with selinux and swapfiles in FC5? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F49963.8070801@redhat.com> Fabio Mollify wrote: > Hi. I found this line in my logs: > > audit(1140033999.212:6): avc: denied { write } for pid=2171 > comm="swapon" name="swapfile" dev=sda2 ino=67052 > scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 > tcontext=system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=file > > I'm just experimenting with selinux, so I set it up in permissive mode > and the swap was activated. > > Is there a way to get rid of it? (or can it be considered harmless?) > > Thanks in advance. > Fabio > > chcon -t swapfile_t swapfile should fix the problem. (swapfile_t needs to be made a customizable type. Also needs a man page) From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 15:27:33 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:27:33 -0500 Subject: FC5 boot annoyance! Message-ID: I just found out that if /etc/fstab lists a partition to mount, and that device/partition isn't found, it will drop into filesystem repair. Just to make it even more annoying, I can't fix /etc/fstab, because / is mounted ro, and mount -o remount,rw / doesn't work either. I had to go find a rescue disk. IMHO, bad entries in /etc/fstab (non-root) should just cause a warning. From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Thu Feb 16 15:30:10 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:30:10 +0100 Subject: Issue with selinux and swapfiles in FC5? In-Reply-To: <43F49963.8070801@redhat.com> References: <43F49963.8070801@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140103810.4117.83.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> > > chcon -t swapfile_t swapfile > > should fix the problem. (swapfile_t needs to be made a customizable > type. Also needs a man page) and mkswap needs to be fixed to set this automatically... From dwalsh at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 15:44:20 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:44:20 -0500 Subject: Issue with selinux and swapfiles in FC5? In-Reply-To: <1140103810.4117.83.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <43F49963.8070801@redhat.com> <1140103810.4117.83.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <43F49DD4.10005@redhat.com> Arjan van de Ven wrote: >> >> chcon -t swapfile_t swapfile >> >> should fix the problem. (swapfile_t needs to be made a customizable >> type. Also needs a man page) >> > > and mkswap needs to be fixed to set this automatically... > > > > Added bugzilla #181782 From rstrode at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 15:49:40 2006 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:49:40 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140097049.6583.3.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> <1140097049.6583.3.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140104980.2379.6.camel@halflap> Hi, > On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 00:10 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > > This is by design at this point. Upstream(?) feels that shutdown > > > shouldn't be an option, just suspend. > > No, I don't think is an upstream GNOME thing. Ray? No, it's not an upstream GNOME thing. GNOME doesn't even ship gnome-power-manager (Yet!). This was an experiment proposed by Seth, that will probably be reverted. For those interested, I think the rationale was something like "TVs don't ever power off, they just suspend and no one notices, if we can make it transparent to the user then it will be better for them because they won't have to wait for a long reboot and deal with the session reloading" etc... At some point we should make those menu options editable by the menu editor. For now, I think we should just add the menu back. --Ray From netwiz at crc.id.au Thu Feb 16 16:01:13 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:01:13 +1100 (EST) Subject: Unable to boot any of the rawhide kernels Message-ID: <41848.203.56.246.92.1140105673.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Does anyone know what changed in the kernel between FC4 and the current builds in the way of generic stuff? I always get an EIP error on boot with anything newer than the latest FC4 updated kernel. I've posted it to Bugzilla under 179714 - yet I haven't been able to figure out what's causing it. -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From trulsg at broadpark.no Thu Feb 16 15:59:57 2006 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:59:57 +0100 Subject: Added network profile after yum update - reposted In-Reply-To: <43F3893E.5030901@broadpark.no> References: <43F3893E.5030901@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <43F4A17D.1070306@broadpark.no> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Truls Gulbrandsen wrote: | Hi, | after the last update I find a new network profile/device: | | status:active | device:lo | nickname:lo.rpmorig | type: Loopback | | this device cannot be edited. | | My wireless device, eth1, comes up inactive but it can be actived | manually resulting in both the Looback and Wireless device active. | | Is this correct? | | Regards, | Truls I also find new hardware: description: Intel Corporation 82801 type: Ethernet device: dev2542 This is in addition to my allready existing: Cisco Systems 350 Series and Intel EtherExpress/100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD9KF9ickK29LSyG8RAgWkAJ977pU8gYEfQj8j293sTWacbBaHUQCbB4lB TYbH7OXAZWtJs0QMljbJ8Yw= =ZENz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <1140104980.2379.6.camel@halflap> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> <1140097049.6583.3.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> <1140104980.2379.6.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <20060216160626.GF13188@redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 10:49:40AM -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > This was an experiment proposed by Seth, that will probably be reverted. > > For those interested, I think the rationale was something like "TVs > don't ever power off, they just suspend and no one notices, if we can > make it transparent to the user then it will be better for them because > they won't have to wait for a long reboot and deal with the session > reloading" etc... Bah, silly HCI people. I don't know about Seth's TV, but I never have to apply updates for my TV, or reboot it all. It's pretty much a one-way street. The one thing that does get updates, is the cable box. Though the 'standby' mode there doesn't actually do anything. (I've actually measured, it saves no power being in standby mode on the unit I have), so it's still fully functional. > For now, I think we should just add the menu back. I agree! Dave From fedora-test-list at cygnusx-1.org Thu Feb 16 16:21:24 2006 From: fedora-test-list at cygnusx-1.org (Nathan Grennan) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:21:24 -0800 Subject: FC5 boot annoyance! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F4A684.60205@cygnusx-1.org> Neal Becker wrote: > I just found out that if /etc/fstab lists a partition to mount, and that > device/partition isn't found, it will drop into filesystem repair. Just to > make it even more annoying, I can't fix /etc/fstab, because / is mounted > ro, and mount -o remount,rw / doesn't work either. > mount / -o remount should work. > IMHO, bad entries in /etc/fstab (non-root) should just cause a warning. > Changing core behavior can have all kinds of unintended side effects. From jakub at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 16:22:46 2006 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:22:46 -0500 Subject: FC5 boot annoyance! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060216162245.GP24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 10:27:33AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > I just found out that if /etc/fstab lists a partition to mount, and that > device/partition isn't found, it will drop into filesystem repair. Just to > make it even more annoying, I can't fix /etc/fstab, because / is mounted > ro, and mount -o remount,rw / doesn't work either. mount -n -o remount,rw / should work though. Jakub From fabio.comolli at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 16:28:41 2006 From: fabio.comolli at gmail.com (Fabio Comolli) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:28:41 +0100 Subject: Issue with selinux and swapfiles in FC5? In-Reply-To: <43F49963.8070801@redhat.com> References: <43F49963.8070801@redhat.com> Message-ID: Hi. On 2/16/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Fabio Mollify wrote: Who in the hell is Fabio Mollify??????? > > Hi. I found this line in my logs: > > > > audit(1140033999.212:6): avc: denied { write } for pid=2171 > > comm="swapon" name="swapfile" dev=sda2 ino=67052 > > scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 > > tcontext=system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=file > > > > I'm just experimenting with selinux, so I set it up in permissive mode > > and the swap was activated. > > > > Is there a way to get rid of it? (or can it be considered harmless?) > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Fabio > > > > > chcon -t swapfile_t swapfile > > should fix the problem. (swapfile_t needs to be made a customizable > type. Also needs a man page) > > -- Thanks. Fabio From mharris at mharris.ca Thu Feb 16 16:30:11 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:30:11 -0500 Subject: Request for volunteers: xfs config corrupted during upgrade - bug 179006 Message-ID: <43F4A893.9060701@mharris.ca> A couple people have reported a bug in which xfs fails to start properly due to the config file being corrupted upon install. Something is causing one of the config file lines later in the file (default-point-size) to be inserted into the list of font directories, which of course breaks xfs startup. My assumption is that chkfontpath is causing this, however if that turns out to be true, it will be quite odd for this to just start happening all of a sudden, as chkfontpath hasn't really changed substantially in a long time. Another possibility is that rpm post script processing in some package (or packages) are modifying the xfs config and causing this to happen, or causing it to be in a state that chkfontpath never would have encountered before. Unfortunately, there is no 100% reproduceable test case yet in order to easily debug the problem, so I would like everyone who experiences this problem to CC themselves on the master bug that is tracking this issue, and add any information that might help to narrow the problem down, as this bug is potentially one of the nastiest X bugs on the FC5Blocker list, since a non-starting font server means a non starting X server. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179006 I'm going to continue trying to trigger the issue locally, but any assistance in narrowing down a reproduceable test case and/or diagnosing the issue is appreciated. You can also find me on #fedora-x on freenode. TIA -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From ckurecka at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 16:22:40 2006 From: ckurecka at gmail.com (Chris Kurecka) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:22:40 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <8b148baa0602160822l8d192c8w4907f74c74c35144@mail.gmail.com> I followed the steps as listed in the first email of this thread (plus the selinux suggestion later on), with the only deviation being that sed -i -e 's/Xorg/Xair/g' /usr/share/gdm/config/gdm.conf-custom didn't work, so I created a /usr/share/gdm/config folder and then touched gdm.conf-custom and then ran the command. Not sure if that's wrong to do. I do indeed get drop shadows and a bunch of solid white windows, and an earlier email said that might be because I'm using Xorg instead of Xair. However, I removed /usr/bin/X and made a symlink to /usr/bin/Xair. Was that not the right way to make sure Xair is working? This is all on a Radeon 9000 Pro (RV250) with Xorg drivers, by the way (I can try fglrx if you need me to, but I thought those didn't support the composite extension). Any help would be appreciated. I'd really like to try this. Thanks, Chris Kurecka On 2/8/06, Ray Strode wrote: > > > If you see drop shadows and a bunch of solid white windows, you probably > aren't running the right X server. Make sure you're running Xair and > not Xorg. > > --Ray > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From berryja at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 16:39:35 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:39:35 -0600 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602160611h49fbbdc4nbc9e3f934b124710@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> <1140097049.6583.3.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> <5256d0b0602160546j400d938eg36e53a9f43bac24c@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910602160611h49fbbdc4nbc9e3f934b124710@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602160839k5f8e023bmbabb301666dcd420@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > ideas born from a strong cup of morning coffee: > > One button on the menu which pulls up a timed dialog with 5 buttons > cancel,reboot,shutdown,suspend and configure. With the exception of the configure button, that's essentially what the shutdown dialog looked like that came up last night when I powered off. I am curious about one thing, though. What was wrong with the radio button dialog that Gnome had before? Is there a benefit in having multiple buttons? Is space is an issue, there is always a drop-down list box. > Have the default timed action in the dialog be configurable so people > who commonly suspend make suspend their default, people who most > commonly reboot make reboot their default and so on... and make the > length of time to wait for dialog interaction configurable. Why not just remember the last choice and be done with it? No configuration dialog. Maybe make it configurable in some file if you would prefer to always default to one choice and manually change when you need to do something else. > Make the text of single menu item which brings up the dialog match the > text of the default configured action to some degree, have the tooltip > be more verbose about what the one menu item can do. I think in FC4 the Logout option brought up the dialog for logout, shutdown, or reboot. > Choose a default choice for action and timeout by paper rock scissors > or thunderdome death match. On the first run of the timed dialog for > any user account also pop up the configure dialog(if the system admin > hasn't locked down this configuration choice) so the user can choose > which default action the menu button will take and be made aware that > it can be reconfigured later without any real hassle. Huh? I don't quite follow you. Paper rock scissors? I don't really see a point in having a configuration dialog, as mentioned above. I think either one default or remember last would fit most everyone's needs. Jonathan From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Thu Feb 16 17:06:16 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:06:16 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140104980.2379.6.camel@halflap> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> <1140097049.6583.3.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> <1140104980.2379.6.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <1140109576.1612.12.camel@cutter> > This was an experiment proposed by Seth, that will probably be reverted. Not me - the other seth - seth nickell. Just to make sure no one blames me for shit I didn't do. -sv From jvdias at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 17:19:48 2006 From: jvdias at redhat.com (Jason Vas Dias) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:19:48 -0500 Subject: DNS resolving problems In-Reply-To: <43F43196.4080506@gmx.de> References: <1140049371.2706.6.camel@paradise.siancu.net> <43F428AC.6090204@gmx.de> <43F43196.4080506@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200602161219.49691.jvdias@redhat.com> On Thursday 16 February 2006 03:02, "shrek-m at gmx.de" wrote: > On 16.02.2006 08:24, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > > > $ host www.union-invest.de > > Host www.union-invest.de not found: 2(SERVFAIL) > > [...] $ host www.union-invest.de > > www.union-invest.de has address 193.24.35.212 > The DNS for the domain 'union-invest.de' is misconfigured (see attached tcpdump.log) . The NS delegated by ns.nacamar.net for 'union-invest.de' is a 'lame server' - it is not authoritative for union-invest.de - I suggest you contact the DNS admin for ns.nacamar.net (dns-admin at nacamar.net) and inform them of this problem. This does not point to any problem with the Rawhide BIND or glibc resolvers. Regards, Jason Vas Dias BIND package maintainer Red Hat Inc. > > 30 minutes later, the same fc3 caching-nameserver > > $ host -tns www.union-invest.de > Host www.union-invest.de not found: 2(SERVFAIL) > > $ host -tns www.union-invest.de > Host www.union-invest.de not found: 2(SERVFAIL) > > $ host -tns www.union-invest.de > Host www.union-invest.de not found: 2(SERVFAIL) > > $ host -tns www.union-invest.de > Host www.union-invest.de not found: 2(SERVFAIL) > > $ host -tns www.union-invest.de > > $ host -tns www.union-invest.de > > $ host -tns redhat.de > redhat.de name server ns1.redhat.com. > redhat.de name server ns2.redhat.com. > redhat.de name server ns3.redhat.com. > > > $ host -tns www.union-invest.de > $ > > -- > shrek-m > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tcpdump.dns.log Type: text/x-log Size: 15770 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rowan at stasis.org Thu Feb 16 17:33:19 2006 From: rowan at stasis.org (Rowan Kerr) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:33:19 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0602160546j400d938eg36e53a9f43bac24c@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> <1140097049.6583.3.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> <5256d0b0602160546j400d938eg36e53a9f43bac24c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F4B75F.109@stasis.org> Peter Robinson wrote: > ... have a suspend, shutdown and > reboot button on the dialog. Nice & simple. From rstrode at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 17:35:56 2006 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:35:56 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <8b148baa0602160822l8d192c8w4907f74c74c35144@mail.gmail.com> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602160822l8d192c8w4907f74c74c35144@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140111357.2379.14.camel@halflap> Hi, > I followed the steps as listed in the first email of this thread (plus > the selinux suggestion later on), with the only deviation being that > sed -i -e 's/Xorg/Xair/g' /usr/share/gdm/config/gdm.conf-custom didn't > work, so I created a /usr/share/gdm/config folder and then touched > gdm.conf-custom and then ran the command. Not sure if that's wrong to > do. > I do indeed get drop shadows and a bunch of solid white windows, and > an earlier email said that might be because I'm using Xorg instead of > Xair. However, I removed /usr/bin/X and made a symlink > to /usr/bin/Xair. Was that not the right way to make sure Xair is > working? So with the latest rawhide, gdm's configuration file has moved to /etc/gdm/custom.conf Add something like this to it: [servers] 0=Xair [server-Xair] name=Accelerated Indirect server command=/usr/bin/Xair -audit 0 If you already have a [servers] section, change what's already there instead of adding a second entry (but still add the [server-Xair] section. Then run /usr/sbin/gdm-restart as root Note, it appears all x86-64 users get the white boxes no matter what. That bug is being worked on. --Ray From rstrode at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 17:36:44 2006 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:36:44 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140109576.1612.12.camel@cutter> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> <1140097049.6583.3.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> <1140104980.2379.6.camel@halflap> <1140109576.1612.12.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <1140111404.2379.16.camel@halflap> Hi, > > This was an experiment proposed by Seth, that will probably be reverted. > > Not me - the other seth - seth nickell. Yea, sorry for not being clear there. --Ray From don_springall at hotmail.com Thu Feb 16 16:49:01 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:49:01 -0700 Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: <50284.193.223.193.103.1140100180.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Message-ID: >From: "Roger Grosswiler" >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > >Subject: Re: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:29:40 +0100 (CET) > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 06:44:39AM -0500, Bob Chiodini wrote: > >> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:00 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > >> > hello, > >> > > >> > > >> > i use a d-link DWL-G650+ with the ACX111-Chipset. Until now, i used > >> > ndiswrapper (which is working quite well also with wpa_supplicant) > >> > > >> > As new NetworkManager supports WPA too, i would give him a try, if it > >> > would support ACX111. > >> > > >> > Somebody found a list of supported chipsets by NetworkManager? > >> > > >> > Roger > >> > > >> > >> Roger, > >> > >> http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ > >> > >> Has drivers. Unfortunately you will need to recompile them as new > >> kernels are released. I believe Ubuntu uses them and they work very > >> well on my Ubuntu laptop and a DWL-650+ (no 'G' in the P/N). > >> > >> Bob... > > > > I'm planning to submit a package with those to Fedora Extras. > > I've been building RPMs with these for personal use for some time > > now. > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > >1) This is good news, having those in extras soon > >2) i would like to now, if those drivers are networkmanager-enabled. As i >know, ndiswrapper isn't. And as networkmanager supports now wpa i would >like this :-D > >Roger Does the acx111 driver work with a 4 K stack or do you need to re-compile with a 8 k stack ? From don_springall at hotmail.com Thu Feb 16 16:48:58 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:48:58 -0700 Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: <50284.193.223.193.103.1140100180.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Message-ID: >From: "Roger Grosswiler" >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > >Subject: Re: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:29:40 +0100 (CET) > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 06:44:39AM -0500, Bob Chiodini wrote: > >> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:00 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > >> > hello, > >> > > >> > > >> > i use a d-link DWL-G650+ with the ACX111-Chipset. Until now, i used > >> > ndiswrapper (which is working quite well also with wpa_supplicant) > >> > > >> > As new NetworkManager supports WPA too, i would give him a try, if it > >> > would support ACX111. > >> > > >> > Somebody found a list of supported chipsets by NetworkManager? > >> > > >> > Roger > >> > > >> > >> Roger, > >> > >> http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ > >> > >> Has drivers. Unfortunately you will need to recompile them as new > >> kernels are released. I believe Ubuntu uses them and they work very > >> well on my Ubuntu laptop and a DWL-650+ (no 'G' in the P/N). > >> > >> Bob... > > > > I'm planning to submit a package with those to Fedora Extras. > > I've been building RPMs with these for personal use for some time > > now. > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > >1) This is good news, having those in extras soon > >2) i would like to now, if those drivers are networkmanager-enabled. As i >know, ndiswrapper isn't. And as networkmanager supports now wpa i would >like this :-D > >Roger Does the acx111 driver work with a 4 K stack or do you need to re-compile with a 8 k stack ? From fabio.comolli at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 17:12:37 2006 From: fabio.comolli at gmail.com (Fabio Comolli) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:12:37 +0100 Subject: Issue with selinux and swapfiles in FC5? In-Reply-To: References: <43F49963.8070801@redhat.com> Message-ID: Hi. > On 2/16/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > Fabio Mollify wrote: > > Who in the hell is Fabio Mollify??????? > forgot the :-) > > > > Hi. I found this line in my logs: > > > > > > audit(1140033999.212:6): avc: denied { write } for pid=2171 > > > comm="swapon" name="swapfile" dev=sda2 ino=67052 > > > scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 > > > tcontext=system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=file > > > > > > I'm just experimenting with selinux, so I set it up in permissive mode > > > and the swap was activated. > > > > > > Is there a way to get rid of it? (or can it be considered harmless?) > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > Fabio > > > > > > > > chcon -t swapfile_t swapfile > > > > should fix the problem. (swapfile_t needs to be made a customizable > > type. Also needs a man page) > > Unfortunately it didn't work: root at kepler ~]# ls -Z /swapfile -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:swapfile_t /swapfile but the warning in dmesg is still there: audit(1140109455.801:6): avc: denied { read } for pid=2165 comm="swapon" name="swapfile" dev=sda2 ino=67052 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:swapfile_t:s0 tclass=file audit(1140109455.810:7): avc: denied { write } for pid=2165 comm="swapon" name="swapfile" dev=sda2 ino=67052 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:swapfile_t:s0 tclass=file Should I try: chcon -t fsadm_t /swapfile ? Thanks again, Fabio From michael.favia at insitesinc.com Thu Feb 16 17:50:58 2006 From: michael.favia at insitesinc.com (Michael Favia) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:50:58 -0600 Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F4BB82.5030109@insitesinc.com> Don Springall wrote: > Does the acx111 driver work with a 4 K stack or do you need to > re-compile with a 8 k stack ? no kernel recompile required. i run ubuntu on a laptop with the card and it runs 4kstacks iirc. if this becomes popular i might also release a extras package for rt2x00 and rtl818x chipsets. im growing weary of lack of support for wifi in fedora and while i understand (and agree with) the policy of following upstream kernel drivers as closely as possible, the situation isnt getting any better for the devices i use. hopefully the increased testing and bug filing resulting from such an inclusion will help motivate the developers to push towards kernel inclusion or kernel developer to accept the modules which ever is the hold up. -mf -- Michael Favia michael.favia at insitesinc.com Insites Incorporated http://michael.insitesinc.com From buildsys at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 17:52:08 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:52:08 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060216 changes Message-ID: <200602161752.k1GHq8s7031540@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: GConf2-2.13.5-4 --------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Christopher Aillon 2.13.5-4 - Send SIGTERM instead of SIGHUP to gconfd * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating 2.13.5-3.2.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating 2.13.5-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) GFS-kernel-2.6.15-5.FC5.4 ------------------------- a2ps-4.13b-49 ------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Tim Waugh 4.13b-49 - Use mktemp in scripts. anaconda-10.92.5-1 ------------------ * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.92.5-1 - Fix traceback in language group selection - No remote save traceback button if not network (clumens) - More fixes for minstg2.img (clumens) - Disable next/back while installing packages (dcantrel) - Bump minimum amounts for install, graphical and early swap - Enable Arabic for text mode (notting) autoconf-2.59-7 --------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Karsten Hopp 2.59-7 - XrmInitialize takes no argument (#181340) beagle-0.2.1-6 -------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Alexander Larsson 0.2.1-6 - Make all dlls exectuable to correctly pick up dependencies cdrtools-8:2.01.01.0.a03-3 -------------------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Harald Hoyer 8:2.01.01.0.a03-3 - rebuilt * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 8:2.01.01.0.a03-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 8:2.01.01.0.a03-2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes cman-kernel-2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7 --------------------------------------------- control-center-1:2.13.92-2 -------------------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-2 - Add a missing BuildRequires * Wed Feb 15 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 db4-4.3.29-2 ------------ * Wed Feb 15 2006 Jindrich Novy 4.3.29-2 - don't package /usr/share/doc/images in the main db4 package and move it to db4-devel (#33328) - make db4 LFS capable (#33849) - move db4-devel, db4-tcl, db4-java to Development/Libraries group instead of System Environment/Libraries (#54320) - BuildPrereq -> BuildRequires - don't use RPM_SOURCE_DIR - Obsoletes db3, db2 dhcp-11:3.0.3-22 ---------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 11:3.0.3-22 - fix bug 181482: resolv.conf not updated on RENEW : since dhcp-3.0.1rc12-RHScript.patch: "$new_domain_servers" should have been "$new_domain_name_servers" :-( diskdumputils-1.2.8-3 --------------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Dave Anderson - 1.2.8-3 - Updated source package to diskdumputils-1.2.8.tar.gz. * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-6.3.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Fri Dec 16 2005 Jesse Keating - rebuilt for new gcc dlm-kernel-2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7 ------------------------------------------- eclipse-bugzilla-1:0.2.2-2 -------------------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Igor Foox 0.2.2-2 - Updated source, removes extraneous debug output. * Tue Feb 14 2006 Igor Foox 0.2.2-1.1 - Bump release. * Tue Feb 14 2006 Igor Foox 0.2.2-1 - Updated to version 0.2.2 which sports working jars included int the plugin. - Changed source file format from -- to -. - Fixed hardcoded versions to variables. - Some formatting fixes. eog-2.13.91-1 ------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 epiphany-1.9.7-1 ---------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Christopher Aillon - 1.9.7-1 - Update to 1.9.7 file-roller-2.13.91-1 --------------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - 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2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 gnome-utils-1:2.13.92-3 ----------------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-3 - Fix %post * Wed Feb 15 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-2 - Update to gucharmap 1.5.2 - Update to gcalctool 5.7.29 gnupg-1.4.2.1-2 --------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai - 1.4.2.1-2 - rebuild * Wed Feb 15 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai - 1.4.2.1-1 - update to 1.4.2.1 (fixes CVE-2006-0455) gok-1.0.6-1 ----------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.0.6-1 - Update to 1.0.6 gstreamer-0.10.3-3 ------------------ * Tue Feb 14 2006 Rik van Riel - 0.10-3-3 - Obsolete gstreamer-plugins (#181296) * Mon Feb 13 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.10.3-2 - Rebuild * Fri Feb 10 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.10.3-1 - Update to 0.10.3 gthumb-2.7.3-1 -------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.7.3-1 - Update to 2.7.3 - BuildRequire libgphoto2 hplip-0.9.8-4 ------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Tim Waugh 0.9.8-4 - Added Obsoletes: hpoj tags back in (bug #181476). initscripts-8.29-1 ------------------ * Tue Feb 14 2006 Peter Jones 8.29-1 - scrub another possible error message from dmraid output kernel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 ------------------------ * Wed Feb 15 2006 Stephen Tweedie - Fix module oopses on x86_64 SMP xen dom0 * Wed Feb 15 2006 John W. Linville - Update to current softmac/bcm43xx code. - Set ipw2200 hwcrypto option to 0 to avoid firmware restarts. * Wed Feb 15 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc3-git4 - Hopefully fix suspend to swap-on-LVM ksh-20060124-2 -------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Karsten Hopp 20060124-2 - make it build in chroots (#180561) * Mon Feb 13 2006 Karsten Hopp 20060124-1 - version 20060124 * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 20050202-5.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) kudzu-1.2.30-1 -------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Bill Nottingham - 1.2.30-1 - revert changes for video probing classes - some correct devices are 0380 less-394-3 ---------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Ivana Varekova - 394-3 - add patch for search problem (search did not find string which occurs in a line after '\0') libbonobo-2.13.1-9 ------------------ * Wed Feb 15 2006 Ray Strode 2.13.1-9 - yet another iteration of the shlib patch * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.1-8.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.1-8.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes libsoup-2.2.7-2 --------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.2.7-2 - Remove excessive Requires for the -devel package mkinitrd-5.0.26-1 ----------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Peter Jones - 5.0.26-1 - fix detection of floppy devices, don't probe them for labels - fix grubby to use the same label scanning code as nash - senseless rewriting of makefiles so that grubby can use nash's .o's, uh, "more easily". nautilus-cd-burner-2.13.91-1 ---------------------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 netpbm-10.31-4 -------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jindrich Novy 10.31-4 - make xwdtopnm work on x86_64 (#181001) notify-daemon-0.3.1-8 --------------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.3.1-8 - BuildRequires love, for all you lovers out there. nss-3.11-4 ---------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Kai Engert - 3.11-4 - add --noexecstack when compiling assembler on x86_64 perl-Net-Telnet-3.03-4.3 ------------------------ * Wed Feb 15 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3.03-4.3 - fix bug 180591: correct URL: tag rhpl-0.182-1 ------------ * Wed Feb 15 2006 David Cantrell - 0.182-1 - setxkbmap corrections for loading X keymaps (#179845) * Thu Dec 22 2005 Jeremy Katz - 0.181-1 - Clean up spacing and use current widgets for exception dialog - add serbian keyboard models (#175611) * Wed Dec 21 2005 Chris Lumens 0.180-1 - Deprecate rhpl.log. rhpxl-0.15-1 ------------ * Wed Feb 15 2006 Bill Nottingham 0.15-1 - order non-vesa videocards before vesa (#176978) rp-pppoe-3.5-31 --------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Than Ngo 3.5-31 - apply patch to use mktemp selinux-policy-2.2.15-4 ----------------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.15-4 - Add router port for zebra - Add imaze port for spamd - Fixes for amanda and java * Tue Feb 14 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.15-3 - Fix bluetooth handling of usb devices - Fix spamd reading of ~/ - fix nvidia spec * Tue Feb 14 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.15-1 - Update to upsteam system-config-printer-0.6.151-1 ------------------------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Tim Waugh 0.6.151-1 - 0.6.151: - Fixed case-insensitive printer matching (bug #181295). vim-1:6.4.007-1 --------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Karsten Hopp 6.4.007-1 - fix vim.csh script (#180429) - patchlevel 7 vixie-cron-4:4.1-52.FC5 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4:4.1-52.FC5 - fix bug 181439: enable easier selection of optional 'WITH_*' compilation features Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- ccs-devel - 1.0.3-0.2.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.3-0.2 gulm - 1.0.0-2.ppc requires ccs Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11 magma-plugins - 1.0.3-1.FC5.ppc64 requires libgulm.so.1()(64bit) vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl Thu Feb 16 17:52:31 2006 From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:52:31 +0100 Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: References: <50284.193.223.193.103.1140100180.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Message-ID: <20060216175230.GA26205@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 09:49:01AM -0700, Don Springall wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 06:44:39AM -0500, Bob Chiodini wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:00 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > >>> > > >>> > i use a d-link DWL-G650+ with the ACX111-Chipset. Until now, i used > >>> > ndiswrapper (which is working quite well also with wpa_supplicant) > >>> > > >>> > As new NetworkManager supports WPA too, i would give him a try, if it > >>> > would support ACX111. > >>> > > >>> > Somebody found a list of supported chipsets by NetworkManager? > >>> > >>> http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ > >>> > >>> Has drivers. Unfortunately you will need to recompile them as new > >>> kernels are released. I believe Ubuntu uses them and they work very > >>> well on my Ubuntu laptop and a DWL-650+ (no 'G' in the P/N). > >> > >> I'm planning to submit a package with those to Fedora Extras. > >> I've been building RPMs with these for personal use for some time > >> now. > >> > >1) This is good news, having those in extras soon > > > >2) i would like to now, if those drivers are networkmanager-enabled. As i > >know, ndiswrapper isn't. And as networkmanager supports now wpa i would > >like this :-D > > > Does the acx111 driver work with a 4 K stack or do you need to re-compile > with a 8 k stack ? NDIS driver didn't work with 4K stack for me, i.e. it crashed. Open-source driver works more or less fine, although transfer rates are lower. I haven't had enough time to get around to debugging this so far. Regards, -- Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling Warsaw University | http://www.icm.edu.pl | tel. +48 (22) 5540810 From don_springall at hotmail.com Thu Feb 16 17:05:50 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:05:50 -0700 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! Message-ID: I can not believe the whole lot of you. Here we are supposed to be polishing off bugs for release 3 and we are still arguing about what the menu should look like and how gpm works. Was Monday not supposed to be a feature freeze ? From mharris at mharris.ca Thu Feb 16 17:57:43 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:57:43 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1140111357.2379.14.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602160822l8d192c8w4907f74c74c35144@mail.gmail.com> <1140111357.2379.14.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <43F4BD17.50601@mharris.ca> Ray Strode wrote: > Hi, > >>I followed the steps as listed in the first email of this thread (plus >>the selinux suggestion later on), with the only deviation being that >>sed -i -e 's/Xorg/Xair/g' /usr/share/gdm/config/gdm.conf-custom didn't >>work, so I created a /usr/share/gdm/config folder and then touched >>gdm.conf-custom and then ran the command. Not sure if that's wrong to >>do. >>I do indeed get drop shadows and a bunch of solid white windows, and >>an earlier email said that might be because I'm using Xorg instead of >>Xair. However, I removed /usr/bin/X and made a symlink >>to /usr/bin/Xair. Was that not the right way to make sure Xair is >>working? > > So with the latest rawhide, gdm's configuration file has moved to > /etc/gdm/custom.conf Is there any particular reason gdm (and kdm for that matter) don't simply default to /usr/bin/X? It's supposed to be the default X server, which seems a better way to handle it IMHO. Then one merely need point the /usr/bin/X symlink to the server of choice, in theory at least. We don't have anything for managing the symlink currently (Xconfigurator used to do that), but it could be done manually by hand. Or someone could whip up a craptastic python GUI system-config-xserver-symlink or switchx or somesuch. ;) > Note, it appears all x86-64 users get the white boxes no matter what. > That bug is being worked on. X on x86_64 has been a bit rough around the edges in 7.0 thus far, but hopefully smooths out soon. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From roger at gwch.net Thu Feb 16 17:57:39 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:57:39 +0100 Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: <20060216175230.GA26205@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> References: <50284.193.223.193.103.1140100180.squirrel@www.gwch.net> <20060216175230.GA26205@ws-gradcol1.icm.edu.pl> Message-ID: <1140112660.2410.0.camel@niobe> Am Donnerstag, den 16.02.2006, 18:52 +0100 schrieb Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 09:49:01AM -0700, Don Springall wrote: > > >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 06:44:39AM -0500, Bob Chiodini wrote: > > >>> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:00 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > i use a d-link DWL-G650+ with the ACX111-Chipset. Until now, i used > > >>> > ndiswrapper (which is working quite well also with wpa_supplicant) > > >>> > > > >>> > As new NetworkManager supports WPA too, i would give him a try, if it > > >>> > would support ACX111. > > >>> > > > >>> > Somebody found a list of supported chipsets by NetworkManager? > > >>> > > >>> http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ > > >>> > > >>> Has drivers. Unfortunately you will need to recompile them as new > > >>> kernels are released. I believe Ubuntu uses them and they work very > > >>> well on my Ubuntu laptop and a DWL-650+ (no 'G' in the P/N). > > >> > > >> I'm planning to submit a package with those to Fedora Extras. > > >> I've been building RPMs with these for personal use for some time > > >> now. > > >> > > >1) This is good news, having those in extras soon > > > > > >2) i would like to now, if those drivers are networkmanager-enabled. As i > > >know, ndiswrapper isn't. And as networkmanager supports now wpa i would > > >like this :-D > > > > > Does the acx111 driver work with a 4 K stack or do you need to re-compile > > with a 8 k stack ? > > NDIS driver didn't work with 4K stack for me, i.e. it crashed. > Open-source driver works more or less fine, although transfer > rates are lower. I haven't had enough time to get around to debugging > this so far. > > Regards, > > -- i had no problem using ndiswrapper with the 4k-stack with my d-link dwl-g650+ From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 18:02:15 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:02:15 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <43F4BD17.50601@mharris.ca> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602160822l8d192c8w4907f74c74c35144@mail.gmail.com> <1140111357.2379.14.camel@halflap> <43F4BD17.50601@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <1140112935.7777.0.camel@bree.local.net> On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 12:57 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Is there any particular reason gdm (and kdm for that matter) don't > simply default to /usr/bin/X? It's supposed to be the default X > server, which seems a better way to handle it IMHO. Then one merely > need point the /usr/bin/X symlink to the server of choice, in theory > at least. I'd far rather be making changes to config files than doing the symlink voodoo we used to Jeremy From mharris at mharris.ca Thu Feb 16 18:07:46 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:07:46 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1140112935.7777.0.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602160822l8d192c8w4907f74c74c35144@mail.gmail.com> <1140111357.2379.14.camel@halflap> <43F4BD17.50601@mharris.ca> <1140112935.7777.0.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43F4BF72.7040804@mharris.ca> Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 12:57 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > >>Is there any particular reason gdm (and kdm for that matter) don't >>simply default to /usr/bin/X? It's supposed to be the default X >>server, which seems a better way to handle it IMHO. Then one merely >>need point the /usr/bin/X symlink to the server of choice, in theory >>at least. > > > I'd far rather be making changes to config files than doing the symlink > voodoo we used to The way the symlink voodoo was done before via Xconfigurator, I'd agree, as it was IMHO quite a nasty mess. It doesn't need to be such a disaster though, at least in theory. ;oP I'd prefer for there to never ever be more than one X server to ever want to install, thus making /usr/bin/X a hardlink to /usr/bin/Xlinux, but that has some drawbacks too. ;) -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From rstrode at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 18:08:33 2006 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:08:33 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <43F4BD17.50601@mharris.ca> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602160822l8d192c8w4907f74c74c35144@mail.gmail.com> <1140111357.2379.14.camel@halflap> <43F4BD17.50601@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <1140113313.2379.20.camel@halflap> Hi, > Is there any particular reason gdm (and kdm for that matter) don't > simply default to /usr/bin/X? It's supposed to be the default X > server, which seems a better way to handle it IMHO. Then one merely > need point the /usr/bin/X symlink to the server of choice, in theory > at least. The problem I think is that you can't have a package own the symlink (because then if you changed it rpm -V would shout, etc), so that leaves making it in %post. But doing it in %post has issues anyway (think about shared /usr). --Ray From jaboutboul at speakeasy.net Thu Feb 16 18:21:52 2006 From: jaboutboul at speakeasy.net (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:21:52 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: FUDCon Boston 2006 Call for Papers] Message-ID: <1140114113.1018.54.camel@deepfort> This was sent out last week, but for some reason didn't make it to some of the lists. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Jack Aboutboul Subject: FUDCon Boston 2006 Call for Papers Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:28:26 -0500 Size: 2231 URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 18:21:53 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:21:53 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602160839k5f8e023bmbabb301666dcd420@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140061269.2586.3.camel@bree.local.net> <43F3FF92.9080401@insight.rr.com> <43F401E3.2000401@insight.rr.com> <1140065212.2437.5.camel@ender> <20060216051057.GB13188@redhat.com> <1140097049.6583.3.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> <5256d0b0602160546j400d938eg36e53a9f43bac24c@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910602160611h49fbbdc4nbc9e3f934b124710@mail.gmail.com> <8767947e0602160839k5f8e023bmbabb301666dcd420@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602161021o266ecfbbv831502fc0b25acf8@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, Jonathan Berry wrote: > Huh? I don't quite follow you. Paper rock scissors? I don't really > see a point in having a configuration dialog, as mentioned above. I > think either one default or remember last would fit most everyone's > needs. "remember last" is an appropriate replacement for paper-rock-scissors for deciding the default action. My intent with the wording was to imply, with humor, the need of some way to decide a default choice, without stating a personal preference as to what the default should be... because I don't have a personal prefence on the default. -jef From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 18:25:20 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:25:20 -0500 Subject: Request for volunteers: xfs config corrupted during upgrade - bug 179006 In-Reply-To: <43F4A893.9060701@mharris.ca> References: <43F4A893.9060701@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602161025i6c3d93dfwdb614a8a7c11272@mail.gmail.com> ? On 2/16/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: > A couple people have reported a bug in which xfs fails to start > properly due to the config file being corrupted upon install. ... > Unfortunately, there is no 100% reproduceable test case yet in > order to easily debug the problem, so I would like everyone who > experiences this problem to CC themselves on the master bug that > is tracking this issue, and add any information that might help > to narrow the problem down, as this bug is potentially one of > the nastiest X bugs on the FC5Blocker list, since a non-starting > font server means a non starting X server. What I find weird is that xfs generates an error and doesn't start -- yet XWindows, et al, appears to work correctly under FC5T2 -- am I crazy? (PS - no, xfs isn't a listed/running process -- it never started.) -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting From MWeiner at ag.com Thu Feb 16 18:31:04 2006 From: MWeiner at ag.com (MW Mike Weiner (5028)) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:31:04 -0500 Subject: Request for volunteers: xfs config corrupted during upgrade -bug 179006 Message-ID: <4FD2C985D5E2A642AE25823DFD61C2B00A1CA1BA@orca.agcom.amgreetings.com> From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Chasecreek Systemhouse On 2/16/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: > A couple people have reported a bug in which xfs fails to start > properly due to the config file being corrupted upon install. ... > Unfortunately, there is no 100% reproduceable test case yet in order > to easily debug the problem, so I would like everyone who experiences > this problem to CC themselves on the master bug that is tracking this > issue, and add any information that might help to narrow the problem > down, as this bug is potentially one of the nastiest X bugs on the > FC5Blocker list, since a non-starting font server means a non starting > X server. What I find weird is that xfs generates an error and doesn't start -- yet XWindows, et al, appears to work correctly under FC5T2 -- am I crazy? (PS - no, xfs isn't a listed/running process -- it never started.) -- I found that it was off via chkconfig after all the updates were complete, once chkconfig was set, and the system rebooted, it started without error. Michael Weiner From mharris at mharris.ca Thu Feb 16 18:34:14 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:34:14 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1140113313.2379.20.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602160822l8d192c8w4907f74c74c35144@mail.gmail.com> <1140111357.2379.14.camel@halflap> <43F4BD17.50601@mharris.ca> <1140113313.2379.20.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <43F4C5A6.3080709@mharris.ca> Ray Strode wrote: > Hi, > > >>Is there any particular reason gdm (and kdm for that matter) don't >>simply default to /usr/bin/X? It's supposed to be the default X >>server, which seems a better way to handle it IMHO. Then one merely >>need point the /usr/bin/X symlink to the server of choice, in theory >>at least. > > The problem I think is that you can't have a package own the symlink > (because then if you changed it rpm -V would shout, etc), so that leaves > making it in %post. But doing it in %post has issues anyway (think > about shared /usr). The filesystem package could own the symlink, and it could be flagged %verify (not md5 mtime size) etc. with a custom %verifyscript that checks that the link is pointing to an actual X server and is not a dead symlink. Another way to do it could be using alternatives, but I'd rather not go there. As for shared /usr, /usr/bin/X would point to /etc/X11/X, which would point to /usr/bin/X, allowing each system to customize the X link to a different server if desired. Another possibility, is to have /usr/bin/X be a wrapper script instead of a symlink, and have it source a config file that specifies the X server to use, and perhaps other stuff. That way there would be a single config file that would set the default X server for: gdm, kdm, xdm, startx, xinit Avoiding any symlink issues, and allowing all of the above programs to simply invoke /usr/bin/X. The config file would reside in /etc somewhere (/etc/sysconfig/Xserver?), thus allowing it to work on shared /usr systems also. Anyway, just some ideas to toss around, as it seems a bit backwards to hard code X server name in multiple packages, to have to change it over time as the OS changes, if it can be configurable and adaptable with little pain. I'm thinking more about the end users here than anything, as they're the ones least likely to know they have to edit gdm.conf or kdm.conf or , etc. For tech types it isn't a huge issue, but I'm sure it'll generate a lot of mailing list questions, etc. ;) -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From cmadams at hiwaay.net Thu Feb 16 18:41:52 2006 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:41:52 -0600 Subject: FC5 boot annoyance! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060216184152.GC1177422@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Neal Becker said: > IMHO, bad entries in /etc/fstab (non-root) should just cause a warning. No, because there is no telling what might happen with a missing FS. Tru64 Unix does this (prints an error and keeps on booting) for missing FS and it is quite annoying when there is a problem. The system may start scribbling over things it shouldn't, processes doing things they shouldn't because config files are missing, etc. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From zuirdj at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 18:45:15 2006 From: zuirdj at gmail.com (Zuir DJ) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:45:15 -0300 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <1140065068.2437.2.camel@ender> References: <43F3E076.9070409@insight.rr.com> <1140056406.13537.7.camel@ender> <43F3EE9D.3030700@insight.rr.com> <1140060604.13537.13.camel@ender> <604aa7910602151942v166c8410md351c3af1bdbb56f@mail.gmail.com> <1140065068.2437.2.camel@ender> Message-ID: On 2/16/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:42 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > Can you post a screenie of what it is suppsoe to look like? > > http://geek.j2solutions.net/shots/suspend.jpg BTW, nice artwork! http://www.mapochovalley.cl/artwork_g-p-m.png -- Zuirdj From dcbw at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 18:45:42 2006 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:45:42 -0500 Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: <43F4BB82.5030109@insitesinc.com> References: <43F4BB82.5030109@insitesinc.com> Message-ID: <1140115542.10832.5.camel@dhcp83-74.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 11:50 -0600, Michael Favia wrote: > Don Springall wrote: > > Does the acx111 driver work with a 4 K stack or do you need to > > re-compile with a 8 k stack ? > > no kernel recompile required. i run ubuntu on a laptop with the card and > it runs 4kstacks iirc. if this becomes popular i might also release a > extras package for rt2x00 and rtl818x chipsets. im growing weary of lack > of support for wifi in fedora and while i understand (and agree with) > the policy of following upstream kernel drivers as closely as possible, > the situation isnt getting any better for the devices i use. hopefully > the increased testing and bug filing resulting from such an inclusion > will help motivate the developers to push towards kernel inclusion or > kernel developer to accept the modules which ever is the hold up. -mf That's the way it gets done; if the driver maintainers aren't motivated anyway, then the driver is certainly a pile of junk and shouldn't upstreamed. If, however, the driver maintainers are active and responsible, the driver should gradually move towards upstreaming in the kernel. A driver won't get into the kernel until it has: a) A maintainer who's willing to clean it up enough to submit it b) A maintainer who's willing to make the changes that a peer-review at kernel-submission time requires c) is fairly stable for a large number of users Note that Fedora Extras is going to get kernel module support in the next couple of months as well, so that's a great place to put drivers like this when that support rolls out. In the end though, you want as many drivers as possible in the kernel. Dan From berryja at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 18:52:17 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:52:17 -0600 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8767947e0602161052k73e0590cq806d2c9047ad8dc0@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, Don Springall wrote: > I can not believe the whole lot of you. Here we are supposed to be polishing > off bugs for release 3 and we are still arguing about what the menu should > look like and how gpm works. I don't look at it that way. We are testing, right? If something doesn't work, we report it. Well, something didn't work (there was no (easy) way to shutdown) and we reported it. We tried something new, and didn't like it. Perhaps it isn't a bug, per se, but it is something that could be considered wrong at the least. Is that not a part of testing too? And I have not seen much arguing. There has been some discussion and some suggestions made, at least as I see it. > Was Monday not supposed to be a feature freeze > ? I think it was, but I haven't been here long enough to know exactly what that is supposed to mean :-). Jonathan From funaho at jurai.org Thu Feb 16 19:05:33 2006 From: funaho at jurai.org (Joshua M. Thompson) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:05:33 -0500 Subject: Anyone else getting "Battery is fully charged" repeatedly? Message-ID: <1140116734.2430.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Before I file a bug report on this I wanted to see if anyone else is noticing this weirdness. I think it started within the past two weeks but I'm not 100% sure since I usually use my laptop on AC. On my laptop (Dell Inspiron 6000 running up-to-date FC5t2), if I go to battery power and then back to AC, once the battery is fully charged again the gpm applet will keep popping up the "Your battery is now fully charged" window every 30 seconds or so, forever, until I log out or reboot. It doesn't happen if I never go off AC during my session so I don't think it's hardware related (ie I don't think the battery is fluctuating or anything weird like that.) It's mostly harmless but rather obnoxious as it tends to distract my eyes a lot. -- Joshua M. Thompson From ckurecka at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 17:59:02 2006 From: ckurecka at gmail.com (Chris Kurecka) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:59:02 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1140111357.2379.14.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602160822l8d192c8w4907f74c74c35144@mail.gmail.com> <1140111357.2379.14.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <8b148baa0602160959i6c68f6c0n358d7ab5ac0dd916@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Ray. That got it working for me. It doesn't cause any major issues or anything, but it seemed to die on its own a couple times (just showing a normal GNOME desktop without shadows). Rerunning spififity after that brought it back up. On my Radeon 9000 it's kind of slow. I was wondering if anything can be done to make it faster? My xorg.conf options are: Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "1" Option "RenderAccel" "yes" Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" I tried exa, but that made it seem even slower. Should I consider ATI's proprietary drivers? Is there any other flag worth trying? Thanks for the help. It's pretty cool. Chris Kurecka On 2/16/06, Ray Strode wrote: > > Hi, > > I followed the steps as listed in the first email of this thread (plus > > the selinux suggestion later on), with the only deviation being that > > sed -i -e 's/Xorg/Xair/g' /usr/share/gdm/config/gdm.conf-custom didn't > > work, so I created a /usr/share/gdm/config folder and then touched > > gdm.conf-custom and then ran the command. Not sure if that's wrong to > > do. > > I do indeed get drop shadows and a bunch of solid white windows, and > > an earlier email said that might be because I'm using Xorg instead of > > Xair. However, I removed /usr/bin/X and made a symlink > > to /usr/bin/Xair. Was that not the right way to make sure Xair is > > working? > So with the latest rawhide, gdm's configuration file has moved to > /etc/gdm/custom.conf > > Add something like this to it: > > [servers] > 0=Xair > > [server-Xair] > name=Accelerated Indirect server > command=/usr/bin/Xair -audit 0 > > If you already have a [servers] section, change what's already there > instead of adding a second entry (but still add the [server-Xair] > section. > > > Then run /usr/sbin/gdm-restart as root > > Note, it appears all x86-64 users get the white boxes no matter what. > That bug is being worked on. > > --Ray > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From don_springall at hotmail.com Thu Feb 16 18:22:05 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:22:05 -0700 Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: <1140112660.2410.0.camel@niobe> Message-ID: >From: Roger Grosswiler >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:57:39 +0100 > >Am Donnerstag, den 16.02.2006, 18:52 +0100 schrieb Dominik 'Rathann' >Mierzejewski: > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 09:49:01AM -0700, Don Springall wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 06:44:39AM -0500, Bob Chiodini wrote: > > > >>> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:00 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > > > >>> > > > > >>> > i use a d-link DWL-G650+ with the ACX111-Chipset. Until now, i >used > > > >>> > ndiswrapper (which is working quite well also with >wpa_supplicant) > > > >>> > > > > >>> > As new NetworkManager supports WPA too, i would give him a try, >if it > > > >>> > would support ACX111. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Somebody found a list of supported chipsets by NetworkManager? > > > >>> > > > >>> http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ > > > >>> > > > >>> Has drivers. Unfortunately you will need to recompile them as new > > > >>> kernels are released. I believe Ubuntu uses them and they work >very > > > >>> well on my Ubuntu laptop and a DWL-650+ (no 'G' in the P/N). > > > >> > > > >> I'm planning to submit a package with those to Fedora Extras. > > > >> I've been building RPMs with these for personal use for some time > > > >> now. > > > >> > > > >1) This is good news, having those in extras soon > > > > > > > >2) i would like to now, if those drivers are networkmanager-enabled. >As i > > > >know, ndiswrapper isn't. And as networkmanager supports now wpa i >would > > > >like this :-D > > > > > > > Does the acx111 driver work with a 4 K stack or do you need to >re-compile > > > with a 8 k stack ? > > > > NDIS driver didn't work with 4K stack for me, i.e. it crashed. > > Open-source driver works more or less fine, although transfer > > rates are lower. I haven't had enough time to get around to debugging > > this so far. > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > i had no problem using ndiswrapper with the 4k-stack with my d-link >dwl-g650+ Does that have the Ti chipset ? I thought they we using a broadcom chip for that series. I have a linksys wpc54g V2 card which does have the the acx111 chipset and it needs a 8k stack with their firmware. Have tries a 4k stack with no luck. From whb at ceimaine.org Thu Feb 16 19:18:32 2006 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will H. Backman) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:18:32 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <8b148baa0602160959i6c68f6c0n358d7ab5ac0dd916@mail.gmail.com> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602160822l8d192c8w4907f74c74c35144@mail.gmail.com> <1140111357.2379.14.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602160959i6c68f6c0n358d7ab5ac0dd916@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F4D008.6060502@ceimaine.org> Chris Kurecka wrote: > Thanks Ray. > > That got it working for me. It doesn't cause any major issues or > anything, but it seemed to die on its own a couple times (just showing a > normal GNOME desktop without shadows). Rerunning spififity after that > brought it back up. On my Radeon 9000 it's kind of slow. I was > wondering if anything can be done to make it faster? > > My xorg.conf options are: > > Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" > Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "1" > Option "RenderAccel" "yes" > Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" > > I tried exa, but that made it seem even slower. Should I consider ATI's > proprietary drivers? Is there any other flag worth trying? > > Thanks for the help. It's pretty cool. > > Chris Kurecka > I hope these nifty features (eye candy) can be useful using the native xorg dri drivers. It would be a shame to end up requiring proprietary drivers. From don_springall at hotmail.com Thu Feb 16 19:24:09 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:24:09 -0700 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602161052k73e0590cq806d2c9047ad8dc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >From: Jonathan Berry >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:52:17 -0600 > >On 2/16/06, Don Springall wrote: > > I can not believe the whole lot of you. Here we are supposed to be >polishing > > off bugs for release 3 and we are still arguing about what the menu >should > > look like and how gpm works. > >I don't look at it that way. We are testing, right? If something >doesn't work, we report it. Well, something didn't work (there was no >(easy) way to shutdown) and we reported it. We tried something new, >and didn't like it. Perhaps it isn't a bug, per se, but it is >something that could be considered wrong at the least. Is that not a >part of testing too? > >And I have not seen much arguing. There has been some discussion and >some suggestions made, at least as I see it. > > > Was Monday not supposed to be a feature freeze > > ? > >I think it was, but I haven't been here long enough to know exactly >what that is supposed to mean :-). > >Jonathan I think we can safefly assume that if someone is suggesting that upstream is smoking bad crack that maybe that is an argument or a flame if you like. My point being there does not seem to be any management of the features being released or the timing of them. They could not wait one more week once test 3 is out the door to start this stuff ? Release 3 has already been delayed once due to gcc 4.1 changes. From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 16 19:44:56 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:44:56 -0800 Subject: Anyone else getting "Battery is fully charged" repeatedly? In-Reply-To: <1140116734.2430.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140116734.2430.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1140119096.2437.21.camel@ender> On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 14:05 -0500, Joshua M. Thompson wrote: > > It's mostly harmless but rather obnoxious as it tends to distract my > eyes a lot. Yes, I have noticed that every few hours or so. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 19:52:36 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:36 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: References: <8767947e0602161052k73e0590cq806d2c9047ad8dc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602161152r7e5404fena78212d51a1f7df2@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, Don Springall wrote: > My point being there does not seem to be any management of the > features being released or the timing of them. I really don't know what you are up in arms about. This feature was added on monday's rawhide push...so it made the freeze deadline. Changes after the deadline will need to have a "damn good reason". "damn good reason" can and will include reverting features which are considered broken. I really don't understand why you consider this a problem in how things are being managed...the feature made it in by the deadline. -jef From maestronn at wowway.com Thu Feb 16 19:55:39 2006 From: maestronn at wowway.com (Demond James) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:55:39 -0500 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43F4D8BB.9020905@wowway.com> Bill Nottingham wrote: > DI Mario Bruckschwaiger (mario at targetdevelopment.at) said: > >> Jon Savage wrote: >> >>>> On my system this is an selinux issue: >>>> >>>> >>> Same here- works fine w/ selinux turned off. >>> >> kudzu does not work on my system (x86_64) with selinux turned off. >> > > For those that see the kudzu segfault, what sort of video hardware > do you have? > > Bill > > Kudzu still segfaults with an updated system as of 2/16/2006 I have a nvidia GeForce FX5200 using the open source "nv" driver. selinux enabled Demond -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 19:59:06 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:59:06 -0500 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <43F4D8BB.9020905@wowway.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43F4D8BB.9020905@wowway.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602161159s1bab2e41m5d741fdcd061fd83@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, Demond James wrote: > Kudzu still segfaults with an updated system as of 2/16/2006 > I have a nvidia GeForce FX5200 using the open source "nv" driver. selinux > enabled hmm i have a geForce FX5200 using nv driver with selinux disabled.. and i don't remember seeing kudzu segfaulting at all on bootup attempts over the last week. And I've done a lot of bootups tracking down some oddball hardware stuff. -jef From notting at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 20:08:34 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:08:34 -0500 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602161159s1bab2e41m5d741fdcd061fd83@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43F4D8BB.9020905@wowway.com> <604aa7910602161159s1bab2e41m5d741fdcd061fd83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060216200834.GB21525@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Jeff Spaleta (jspaleta at gmail.com) said: > On 2/16/06, Demond James wrote: > > Kudzu still segfaults with an updated system as of 2/16/2006 > > I have a nvidia GeForce FX5200 using the open source "nv" driver. selinux > > enabled > > hmm i have a geForce FX5200 using nv driver with selinux disabled.. > and i don't remember seeing kudzu segfaulting at all on bootup > attempts over the last week. And I've done a lot of bootups tracking > down some oddball hardware stuff. i386 or x86-64? The code in question only runs on x86-64. Bill From rstrode at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 20:13:03 2006 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:13:03 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <8b148baa0602160959i6c68f6c0n358d7ab5ac0dd916@mail.gmail.com> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602160822l8d192c8w4907f74c74c35144@mail.gmail.com> <1140111357.2379.14.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602160959i6c68f6c0n358d7ab5ac0dd916@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140120783.2379.34.camel@halflap> Hi, > That got it working for me. It doesn't cause any major issues or > anything, but it seemed to die on its own a couple times (just showing > a normal GNOME desktop without shadows). Rerunning spififity after > that brought it back up. you might try running sh -c "METACITY_SYNC=1 spififity --replace" instead of just spififity --replace. It may solve your stability issues. > On my Radeon 9000 it's kind of slow. I was wondering if anything > can be done to make it faster? > > My xorg.conf options are: > > Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" > Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "1" > Option "RenderAccel" "yes" > Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" The XAANoOffscreenPixmaps is the most important bit for good performance and you already have that. RenderAccel defaults to yes I think, so that's not necessary. I don't know what AllowGLXWithComposite does or how it interacts with accelerated indirect rendering. I don't have it in my xorg.conf > I tried exa, but that made it seem even slower. Yea, right now the X guys (Soeren, Kristian, Adam, and Kevin) are using XAA, with the longer term plan to make this work well with EXA I think. > Should I consider ATI's proprietary drivers? Is there any other flag > worth trying? You can't use an alternative GL implementation with this (unless it supports the texture_from_pixmap extension). I don't know if the ATI drivers ship their own GL. Does your computer do speed stepping? One (obvious) way to increase your frame rate might be to max out your cpu clockspeed if you haven't already. It's already got pretty acceptable frame rates (~30fps) on my r100 card. This should get faster over time, too. Adam is looking into various ways to make things faster, I believe. --Ray From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 20:09:57 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:09:57 -0500 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <20060216200834.GB21525@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43F4D8BB.9020905@wowway.com> <604aa7910602161159s1bab2e41m5d741fdcd061fd83@mail.gmail.com> <20060216200834.GB21525@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602161209p70fd0b85h122f1271045a425@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > i386 or x86-64? The code in question only runs on x86-64. oh sorry... nevermind then. -jef From trulsg at broadpark.no Thu Feb 16 20:17:39 2006 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:17:39 +0100 Subject: What is Loopback device?? Message-ID: <43F4DDE3.1090007@broadpark.no> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, After yesterdays yum update I got a new network device named: Loopback device; which is enabled and activated by default. System-config-network says it cannot be disabled nor changed. I also got another harware installed named:Intel Corporation 82801; device: dev2542. I have FC5t2 installed to an IBM TP T30 with a Cisco 350 pcmcia wlan card. Why these new settings and are they correct? 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From brunson at brunson.com Thu Feb 16 20:25:30 2006 From: brunson at brunson.com (Eric Brunson) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:25:30 -0700 Subject: What is Loopback device?? In-Reply-To: <43F4DDE3.1090007@broadpark.no> References: <43F4DDE3.1090007@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <43F4DFBA.4090203@brunson.com> loopback has always been there, its ipaddress is 127.0.0.1, right? It loops back to the machine. Don't try to disable it, disabling it will break things. I have a Thinkpad X30, the Intel 82801 is your IO controller for USB, IDE, AC?97, SMBus, PCI, ACPI, LAN, and LPC. Truls Gulbrandsen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > After yesterdays yum update I got a new network device named: Loopback > device; which is enabled and activated by default. > > System-config-network says it cannot be disabled nor changed. > > I also got another harware installed named:Intel Corporation 82801; > device: dev2542. > > I have FC5t2 installed to an IBM TP T30 with a Cisco 350 pcmcia wlan > card. > > Why these new settings and are they correct? > > Regards, > Truls > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFD9N3iickK29LSyG8RAk8MAJ0ap4qnBROOWav/85nAh9YXJwlJQgCcCr+c > TRKwCy1xsiehyMacJek/Ho8= > =wcyP > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From trulsg at broadpark.no Thu Feb 16 20:52:45 2006 From: trulsg at broadpark.no (Truls Gulbrandsen) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:52:45 +0100 Subject: What is Loopback device?? In-Reply-To: <43F4DFBA.4090203@brunson.com> References: <43F4DDE3.1090007@broadpark.no> <43F4DFBA.4090203@brunson.com> Message-ID: <43F4E61D.6040603@broadpark.no> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eric Brunson wrote: | | loopback has always been there, its ipaddress is 127.0.0.1, right? It | loops back to the machine. Don't try to disable it, disabling it will | break things. | | I have a Thinkpad X30, the Intel 82801 is your IO controller for USB, | IDE, AC?97, SMBus, PCI, ACPI, LAN, and LPC. | | Truls Gulbrandsen wrote: | | Hi, | After yesterdays yum update I got a new network device named: Loopback | device; which is enabled and activated by default. | | System-config-network says it cannot be disabled nor changed. | | I also got another harware installed named:Intel Corporation 82801; | device: dev2542. | | I have FC5t2 installed to an IBM TP T30 with a Cisco 350 pcmcia wlan | card. | | Why these new settings and are they correct? | | Regards, | Truls ok, thanks for info. So what this update did was just to make it all visible in the system-config-network? 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In-Reply-To: <1140116734.2430.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140116734.2430.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43F4EE24.8030503@mishakononov.com> Yup -- been getting that also. Haven't had time to look into it beyond, "Wow, that's annoying." --Misha Joshua M. Thompson wrote: > Before I file a bug report on this I wanted to see if anyone else is > noticing this weirdness. I think it started within the past two weeks > but I'm not 100% sure since I usually use my laptop on AC. > > On my laptop (Dell Inspiron 6000 running up-to-date FC5t2), if I go to > battery power and then back to AC, once the battery is fully charged > again the gpm applet will keep popping up the "Your battery is now fully > charged" window every 30 seconds or so, forever, until I log out or > reboot. It doesn't happen if I never go off AC during my session so I > don't think it's hardware related (ie I don't think the battery is > fluctuating or anything weird like that.) > > It's mostly harmless but rather obnoxious as it tends to distract my > eyes a lot. > > From stelian.iancu at gmx.net Fri Feb 17 03:37:08 2006 From: stelian.iancu at gmx.net (Stelian Iancu) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:37:08 -0500 Subject: Anyone else getting "Battery is fully charged" repeatedly? In-Reply-To: <1140116734.2430.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140116734.2430.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1140147429.2379.0.camel@paradise.siancu.net> On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 14:05 -0500, Joshua M. Thompson wrote: > Before I file a bug report on this I wanted to see if anyone else is > noticing this weirdness. I think it started within the past two weeks > but I'm not 100% sure since I usually use my laptop on AC. Yes, I've noticed this too. S. From dwalsh at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 21:38:46 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:38:46 -0500 Subject: Rawhide -- SELinux enforced avc denied problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F4F0E6.9080604@redhat.com> Miles Lane wrote: > audit(1140105982.127:2): avc: denied { write } for pid=1149 > comm="mount" name="blkid.tab" dev=hda6 ino=1012171 > scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 tclass=file > audit(1140105982.339:3): avc: denied { write } for pid=1154 > comm="mount" name="blkid.tab" dev=hda6 ino=1012171 > scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 tclass=file > audit(1140105982.683:4): avc: denied { write } for pid=1159 > comm="mount" name="blkid.tab" dev=hda6 ino=1012171 > scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 tclass=file > audit(1140106237.463:6): avc: denied { relabelto } for pid=1184 > comm="setfiles" name="0" dev=hda7 ino=3208377 > scontext=system_u:system_r:setfiles_t:s0 > tcontext=system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=blk_file > audit(1140106237.463:7): avc: denied { relabelto } for pid=1184 > comm="setfiles" name="tun" dev=hda7 ino=3208376 > scontext=system_u:system_r:setfiles_t:s0 > tcontext=system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=chr_file > > restorecon /etc/blkid.tab From mclasen at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 21:39:56 2006 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:39:56 -0500 Subject: Anyone else getting "Battery is fully charged" repeatedly? In-Reply-To: <1140147429.2379.0.camel@paradise.siancu.net> References: <1140116734.2430.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1140147429.2379.0.camel@paradise.siancu.net> Message-ID: <1140125996.964.0.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 22:37 -0500, Stelian Iancu wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 14:05 -0500, Joshua M. Thompson wrote: > > Before I file a bug report on this I wanted to see if anyone else is > > noticing this weirdness. I think it started within the past two weeks > > but I'm not 100% sure since I usually use my laptop on AC. > > Yes, I've noticed this too. > > S. > Please make sure that there is a bug about this issue. Matthias From stelian.iancu at gmx.net Fri Feb 17 04:02:48 2006 From: stelian.iancu at gmx.net (Stelian Iancu) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:02:48 -0500 Subject: Problems with deskbar-applet Message-ID: <1140148969.2379.5.camel@paradise.siancu.net> Hi all, Latest rawhide: when trying to load deskbar-applet, I get the following error message: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:Deskbar_Applet". and then a question about keeping or deleting this applet. Packages: deskbar-applet-2.13.91-1.fc5 gnome-panel-2.13.91-2 I am quite new to this, so I have 2 questions: 1. Since deskbar-applet is not in the core Fedora (but in Extras), is this the correct list to report such problems? 2. How can I debug the issue, so I can give more complete and pertinent information? With regards, Stelian Iancu From miles.lane at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 22:22:17 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:22:17 -0500 Subject: Rawhide -- dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth1 for sub-path eth1.dbus.get.reason Message-ID: Are the following messages indicating a problem that needs fixing? Feb 16 13:32:46 hogwarts dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth1 for sub-path eth1.dbus.get.reason Feb 16 13:32:54 hogwarts dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth1 for sub-path eth1.dbus.get.host_name Feb 16 13:32:54 hogwarts dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth1 for sub-path eth1.dbus.get.domain_name Feb 16 13:32:54 hogwarts dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth1 for sub-path eth1.dbus.get.nis_domain Feb 16 13:32:54 hogwarts dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth1 for sub-path eth1.dbus.get.nis_servers From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Thu Feb 16 22:21:19 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 06:21:19 +0800 Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F4FADF.5020909@herakles.homelinux.org> Don Springall wrote: > >> > NDIS driver didn't work with 4K stack for me, i.e. it crashed. >> > Open-source driver works more or less fine, although transfer >> > rates are lower. I haven't had enough time to get around to debugging >> > this so far. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > -- >> i had no problem using ndiswrapper with the 4k-stack with my d-link >> dwl-g650+ > > Does that have the Ti chipset ? I thought they we using a broadcom chip > for that series. I have a linksys wpc54g V2 card which does have the the > acx111 chipset and it needs a 8k stack with their firmware. > Have tries a 4k stack with no luck. Many manufacturers change the chipset and change nothing but the model number. D-link has a web page showing what linux drivers are needed for various models and revisions of models. ACX means TI. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From twaugh at redhat.com Thu Feb 16 22:50:34 2006 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:50:34 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: hplip-0.9.8-3.2 Message-ID: <200602162250.k1GMoY126494@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-113 2006-02-16 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : hplip Version : 0.9.8 Release : 3.2 Summary : HP Linux Imaging and Printing Project Description : The Hewlett-Packard Linux Imaging and Printing Project provides drivers for HP printers and multi-function peripherals. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: New version. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Tim Waugh 0.9.8-3.2 - 0.9.8 (bug #181493). --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ de66ad3ca1adb28abba2c62f9d9c6f2a177d9d8a SRPMS/hplip-0.9.8-3.2.src.rpm 0ce8e0afb098ff89b53848d08a3c7bfed6ca157a ppc/hplip-0.9.8-3.2.ppc.rpm 6faa5b61dc3f69aef37bd007ff673605833a39c5 ppc/hpijs-0.9.8-3.2.ppc.rpm 9d0c876831f400b05dec3ec456366fd2762853b5 ppc/libsane-hpaio-0.9.8-3.2.ppc.rpm ee0969ad540fd8268a228e935c5a47dd0edf8344 ppc/debug/hplip-debuginfo-0.9.8-3.2.ppc.rpm 4280f4cb24940a3ad8855d02fedc34612876cc6f x86_64/hplip-0.9.8-3.2.x86_64.rpm ee718744d46621ea2c5fa2292fc83e7ba1141732 x86_64/hpijs-0.9.8-3.2.x86_64.rpm 84cd5ead229e8c45066f069821a30491575edb43 x86_64/libsane-hpaio-0.9.8-3.2.x86_64.rpm 4afa160c765b5f772289ec637ae3ec23f49885e8 x86_64/debug/hplip-debuginfo-0.9.8-3.2.x86_64.rpm 2ed8f2f402cb20c3c33422c08d3d04cf7809dfe6 i386/hplip-0.9.8-3.2.i386.rpm a2ff758cd87af1136fee2dd859a0e87b808b34cd i386/hpijs-0.9.8-3.2.i386.rpm 52dad8d31020b3dd6884992b52cd068d78556fc8 i386/libsane-hpaio-0.9.8-3.2.i386.rpm 76324c6467499cff00a21375be9fe3046ba21095 i386/debug/hplip-debuginfo-0.9.8-3.2.i386.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From miles.lane at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 22:49:10 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:49:10 -0500 Subject: Anyone else getting "Battery is fully charged" repeatedly? In-Reply-To: <1140125996.964.0.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> References: <1140116734.2430.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1140147429.2379.0.camel@paradise.siancu.net> <1140125996.964.0.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: Check out: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=175746 Yes, I also see this when running gnome-power-manager. Once my battery is fully charged, I often get multiple notices that the battery is fully charged per minute. I have set the icon to only display when the battery charge is critically low. This is a less than optimal workaround. Miles From don_springall at hotmail.com Thu Feb 16 22:26:30 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:26:30 -0700 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! Message-ID: >From: Jeff Spaleta >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:36 -0500 > >On 2/16/06, Don Springall wrote: > > My point being there does not seem to be any management of the > > features being released or the timing of them. > >I really don't know what you are up in arms about. This feature was >added on monday's rawhide push...so it made the freeze deadline. >Changes after the deadline will need to have a "damn good reason". >"damn good reason" can and will include reverting features which are >considered broken. I really don't understand why you consider this a >problem in how things are being managed...the feature made it in by >the deadline. > >-jef It may have made it in under the wire but I am betting a lot of people did not notice it until yesterday. It took many of us quite a while to get 1.3 gigs installed. The freeze was delayed to Monday to get gcc 4.1 changes in. I think sneaking this in was a mistake. Now a lot of people will be testing suspend. On my system it goes into suspend okay but does not wake up properly all the time. I will tell you tomorrow how long my battery lasts on suspend. My point still is that one week for a significant change like this is not good. Rawhide is more stable now than test 2 but it still does not feel solid to me. Performance is still not good and gnome feels rather sluggish at times. I think we should be concentrating on performance and bug fixes right now, not new feature testing. Again could they have not waited one lousy week to try this out ? My apologies if my reply got posted twice, my isp is unreliable at the moment and keeps dropping my connection. From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu Feb 16 23:49:47 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:49:47 -0800 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1140133787.2437.28.camel@ender> On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 15:26 -0700, Don Springall wrote: > > I think we should be concentrating on performance and bug fixes right now, > not new feature testing. Again could they have not waited one lousy week to > try this out ? > > My apologies if my reply got posted twice, my isp is unreliable at the > moment and keeps dropping my connection. It is extremely difficult to introduce new changes after Test3. We wanted to get changes like this into test 3 so that a much larger audience could consume it. We can roll back after Test3, but introducing it after test3 would have been difficult at best. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From briang at pmccorp.com Fri Feb 17 00:01:12 2006 From: briang at pmccorp.com (Brian Gaynor) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:01:12 -0800 Subject: Anyone else getting "Battery is fully charged" repeatedly? In-Reply-To: <1140116734.2430.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140116734.2430.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1140134472.2613.0.camel@canis> On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 14:05 -0500, Joshua M. Thompson wrote: > Before I file a bug report on this I wanted to see if anyone else is > noticing this weirdness. I think it started within the past two weeks > but I'm not 100% sure since I usually use my laptop on AC. > > On my laptop (Dell Inspiron 6000 running up-to-date FC5t2), if I go to > battery power and then back to AC, once the battery is fully charged > again the gpm applet will keep popping up the "Your battery is now fully > charged" window every 30 seconds or so, forever, until I log out or > reboot. It doesn't happen if I never go off AC during my session so I > don't think it's hardware related (ie I don't think the battery is > fluctuating or anything weird like that.) > > It's mostly harmless but rather obnoxious as it tends to distract my > eyes a lot. > > -- > Joshua M. Thompson > Same exact behavior here, Dell Inspiron 5160. -- Brian Gaynor www.pmccorp.com FC4/Linux on DELL Inspiron 5160 3.0Ghz canis 16:01:06 up 10 min, 1 user, load average: 0.25, 0.44, From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Fri Feb 17 00:19:07 2006 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:19:07 -0500 Subject: Problems with deskbar-applet In-Reply-To: <1140148969.2379.5.camel@paradise.siancu.net> References: <1140148969.2379.5.camel@paradise.siancu.net> Message-ID: <1140135547.4578.10.camel@ignacio.lan> On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 23:02 -0500, Stelian Iancu wrote: > Latest rawhide: when trying to load deskbar-applet, I get the following > error message: > > The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:Deskbar_Applet". > > and then a question about keeping or deleting this applet. > 1. Since deskbar-applet is not in the core Fedora (but in Extras), is > this the correct list to report such problems? Actually, Bugzilla is the correct place to report such problems. But I'm subscribed here regardless ;) http://bugzilla.redhat.com/ > 2. How can I debug the issue, so I can give more complete and pertinent > information? Run "/usr/lib/deskbar-applet/deskbar-applet -w" and attach any output to the bug report. There recently was a small problem with 2.13.91 reported wrt prctl, but I wasn't sure if Fedora had this problem. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From lsatenstein at yahoo.com Fri Feb 17 00:37:31 2006 From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:37:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Keyboard support Canada Multilingual Message-ID: <20060217003731.54703.qmail@web30210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is this going to be fixed for test 3. Canada french was perfectly mapped in core4. Broken in core5. I can make it work with setxkbdmap "ca(fr)" being written as a line in my bash profile. But it does not appear to be effective universally (control-alt-f1, for example). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mharris at mharris.ca Fri Feb 17 00:47:14 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:47:14 -0500 Subject: Keyboard support Canada Multilingual In-Reply-To: <20060217003731.54703.qmail@web30210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060217003731.54703.qmail@web30210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43F51D12.4080502@mharris.ca> Leslie Satenstein wrote: > Is this going to be fixed for test 3. > > Canada french was perfectly mapped in core4. Broken in core5. > > I can make it work with > > setxkbdmap "ca(fr)" That's the new standard way of selecting the french variant of the Canadian keyboard layout AIU. > being written as a line in my bash profile. But it does not appear to be > effective universally (control-alt-f1, for example). If you believe there is a bug in the support, please file a bug report in X.Org bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org in the "xorg" component. The xkbdata is undergoing many changes currently as it migrates away from the older ad-hoc definitions to a more standardized and uniform set of definitions. In the process, there will be some bugs, and there will also be some changes that require systems to be configured differently from how they may have been in the past. Due to this change, other tools will also need changes to handle the new xkb data properly. All xkb bugs should be filed in the X.Org bugzilla. Once they're resolved by the upstream maintainers, we will review the changes for potential inclusion in future builds. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 01:10:48 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:10:48 -0500 Subject: Crippling Gnome-power-manager, Why! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa7910602161710j36499532v2d9317abc920b251@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, Don Springall wrote: > My point still is that one week for a significant change like > this is not good. Rawhide is more stable now than test 2 but it still does > not feel solid to me. Performance is still not good and gnome feels rather > sluggish at times. So what you want is a pre-deadline deadline. "okay guys next monday is the posted deadline..but really we mean two weeks before that as the real deadline for new features" > > I think we should be concentrating on performance and bug fixes right > now, not new feature testing. Again could they have not waited one > lousy week to try this out ? you seem to want it both ways..... either you want a hard deadline after which no new features are allowed so stablization can happen after that deadline... or you want new features to be able to bleed in post-test3 freeze. Sneaking it in before the deadline is bad... but sneaking it into the tree after the deadline is good? -jef From wowbagger at sktc.net Fri Feb 17 01:12:47 2006 From: wowbagger at sktc.net (David D. Hagood) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:12:47 -0600 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver Message-ID: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver? gnome-screensaver does not do DPMS, so my monitor stays on all the time boiling the cathodes away. gnome-screensaver doesn't have the eyecandy that xscreensaver has. In short, it seems a far less capable replacement. So why was xscreensaver removed? From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 01:24:17 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:24:17 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> Message-ID: <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, David D. Hagood wrote: > Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver? > gnome-screensaver does not do DPMS, so my monitor stays on all the time > boiling the cathodes away. gnome-screensaver doesn't have the eyecandy > that xscreensaver has. In short, it seems a far less capable replacement. I think gnome-screensaver's upstream webpages explain the long term advantages http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScreensaver is xscreensaver using dbus controls? does xscreenssaver allow switching users from the locked dialog? does xscreensaver allow for system level mandatory policy definitions with regard to how it can be configured? You might not understand, in the short-term, the long-term benefits to moving to a solution which allows these things.. but they are much more useful features than being able to run arbitrary eyecandy... especially on multi-user systems/networks. DPMS is being handled by gnome-power-manager assuming you have all the updates applied Desktop->Preferences->More Preferences->Power Management or right click on the power management icon in the panel if its visible -jef From wowbagger at sktc.net Fri Feb 17 01:34:12 2006 From: wowbagger at sktc.net (David D. Hagood) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:34:12 -0600 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F52814.4030905@sktc.net> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > is xscreensaver using dbus controls? > does xscreenssaver allow switching users from the locked dialog? > does xscreensaver allow for system level mandatory policy definitions > with regard to how it can be configured? > And why should those things be in *gnome-screensaver* rather than being ported to xscreensaver? > You might not understand, in the short-term, the long-term benefits to And here we go with what is becoming the standard line from the Gnome team - "You stupid user, you don't know what is good for you, how dare you question us!" I understand just fine about moving forward. I also understand that moving *forward* involve progression, not regression. I understand that you don't replace a system that is in production and working with a completely inferior product. > DPMS is being handled by gnome-power-manager > assuming you have all the updates applied > Desktop->Preferences->More Preferences->Power Management Actually, it is NOT being handled by gnome-power-manager, as several other messages on that subject have already discussed. Moreover, again - why does this need to be a *Gnome* specific thing? Yes, JWZ is not maintaining xscreensaver, so maybe it is time for somebody else to take it over - perhaps the folks working on gnome-screensaver. However, there is no reason why it needs to be Gnome specific. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 17 01:39:04 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:09:04 +0530 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <43F52814.4030905@sktc.net> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <43F52814.4030905@sktc.net> Message-ID: <43F52938.5060206@fedoraproject.org> Hi > > Yes, JWZ is not maintaining xscreensaver, so maybe it is time for > somebody else to take it over - perhaps the folks working on > gnome-screensaver. However, there is no reason why it needs to be > Gnome specific. KDE already has its own screensavers. If you want to maintain and develop xscreensaver further, more power to you. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From notting at redhat.com Fri Feb 17 01:39:09 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:39:09 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <43F52814.4030905@sktc.net> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <43F52814.4030905@sktc.net> Message-ID: <20060217013909.GA32167@devserv.devel.redhat.com> David D. Hagood (wowbagger at sktc.net) said: > And why should those things be in *gnome-screensaver* rather than being > ported to xscreensaver? Perhaps the xscreensaver maintainer may not want to move in that direction. > Yes, JWZ is not maintaining xscreensaver, so maybe it is time for > somebody else to take it over - perhaps the folks working on > gnome-screensaver. I'm pretty sure JWZ is still doing releases. Bill From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 01:44:17 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:44:17 -0500 Subject: FC5 boot annoyance! References: <20060216162245.GP24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 10:27:33AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: >> I just found out that if /etc/fstab lists a partition to mount, and that >> device/partition isn't found, it will drop into filesystem repair. Just >> to make it even more annoying, I can't fix /etc/fstab, because / is >> mounted ro, and mount -o remount,rw / doesn't work either. > > mount -n -o remount,rw / > should work though. > > Jakub > Thanks. Now that you mention it, I remember this is not the first time I encountered this. It happens just infrequently enough for me to forget. That's why I'd like to suggest, that the message which drops you into the shell, could mention this. Also, the error message from mount is not helpful. It could suggest "maybe you need -n?", or something to that effect. That would have given me a clue. From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 02:04:01 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:04:01 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <43F52814.4030905@sktc.net> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <43F52814.4030905@sktc.net> Message-ID: <604aa7910602161804r3a897b3fpe70ccf3c85e40c64@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, David D. Hagood wrote: > And why should those things be in *gnome-screensaver* rather than being > ported to xscreensaver? You'd have to ask the xscreensaver developer about that. Sometimes developers don't agree as to featuresets and priorities and new codebases are created because agreement cannot be reached. This could be one of those times. > And here we go with what is becoming the standard line from the Gnome > team - "You stupid user, you don't know what is good for you, how dare > you question us!" I am not part of the gnome team.. I am a user. And at no point did i call you stupid. Being uninformed isn't being stupid. Not recognizing long-term benefits which you personally aren't going to make use of isn't being stupid. I'm pointing out that there are long term benefits which you may not recognize as being important. Would you rather I assume that you had infinite knowledge and understanding of the differences between gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver and assume that your original question was only posted as a retorical device to start a bitch session? I could treat you that way, but I'd rather not. Instead I'm assuming your question is prompted by a genuine lack of information on the subject deserving of as thoughtful an explanation as I can provide, constrained by the bounds of my own human failings, and references to authorative information so that you can make an effort to learn more by reading the reference material I provide. > > I understand just fine about moving forward. I also understand that > moving *forward* involve progression, not regression. Actually progress quite frequently involves regressions. Progress isn't a linear process where every competing demand can be enhanced simutenously. Progress is messy and is measured as net benefit. And in this case i believe that the there is a net benefit even though some users, like yourself, will feel a short-term regression until the bits that allow gnome-screensaver to use all the screenies in xscreensaver-extras have been correctly worked out. I understand that > Actually, it is NOT being handled by gnome-power-manager, as several > other messages on that subject have already discussed. Bugs are bugs, and we are in the testing process. gnome-power-manager is there to provide DPMS support for the gnome desktop. I'm very confident the bugs will get sorted out during the remaining time before fc5. > > Moreover, again - why does this need to be a *Gnome* specific thing? > > Yes, JWZ is not maintaining xscreensaver, so maybe it is time for > somebody else to take it over - perhaps the folks working on > gnome-screensaver. However, there is no reason why it needs to be > Gnome specific. just because it has gnome in the name means its gnome specific? Did you read the page i reference... the goal is to build a desktop neutral approach so each desktop can integrate screensaver control into its UI in a way that makes sense for that desktop environment. Would you feel better if it were named freedesktop.org-screensaver? -jef From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 02:11:40 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:11:40 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/16/06, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/16/06, David D. Hagood wrote: > > Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver? > > gnome-screensaver does not do DPMS, so my monitor stays on all the time > > boiling the cathodes away. gnome-screensaver doesn't have the eyecandy > > that xscreensaver has. In short, it seems a far less capable replacement. > I think gnome-screensaver's upstream webpages explain the long term advantages > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScreensaver > is xscreensaver using dbus controls? > does xscreenssaver allow switching users from the locked dialog? > does xscreensaver allow for system level mandatory policy definitions > with regard to how it can be configured? > > You might not understand, in the short-term, the long-term benefits to > moving to a solution which allows these things.. but they are much > more useful features than being able to run arbitrary eyecandy... > especially on multi-user systems/networks. > > DPMS is being handled by gnome-power-manager > assuming you have all the updates applied > Desktop->Preferences->More Preferences->Power Management > or right click on the power management icon in the panel if its visible Hmm. I haven't noticed xscreensaver being replaced by gnome-screensaver. I still have xscreensaver running with the Rawhide updates of today. However, the 3D screensavers seem broken right now. Hmm. With xscreensaver, the gnome-power-manager popups are being displayed on top of the screensaver display. The seems like a bug. Will this be prevented with gnome-screensaver? Will the screensavers in xscreensaver be ported to gnome-screensaver? The selection in gnome-screensaver is pretty lame. There are several specific screensavers I would like to see retained: vermiculate VidWhacker SuperQuadratics Substrate Ripples Pinion Noof MirrorBlob Intermomentary HyperTorus Interaggregate GLSnake GLSlideshow GLEidescope GFlux FuzzyFlakes Flurry FlipScreen3D Distort DangerBall Carousel Bumps BlockTube From chris at tylers.info Fri Feb 17 02:25:36 2006 From: chris at tylers.info (Chris Tyler) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:25:36 -0500 Subject: Keyboard support Canada Multilingual In-Reply-To: <20060217013903.466DF73109@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060217013903.466DF73109@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140143136.15316.87.camel@concord2.proximity.on.ca> Mike A. Harris wrote: > > Is this going to be fixed for test 3. > > > > Canada french was perfectly mapped in core4. Broken in core5. > > > > I can make it work with > > > > setxkbdmap "ca(fr)" > > That's the new standard way of selecting the french variant of the > Canadian keyboard layout AIU. The xkb data for this is fine. The problem is that you can't select this widely-used map through Anaconda's keyboard list, nor through >System>Administration>Keyboard aka system-config-keyboard (I'll disregard KDE's Control Panel, which seems utterly broken in this regard right now!). > > being written as a line in my bash profile. But it does not appear > to be > > effective universally (control-alt-f1, for example). > > If you believe there is a bug in the support, please file a bug report > in X.Org bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org in the "xorg" > component. Ctrl-Alt-F1 brings the user to VT1, which is typically a text console - so it's the "loadkeys" map that matters there. The command to load the console map that corresponds to the xkb map "ca(fr)" is: loadkeys cf ("cf" for Canadian French) > All xkb bugs should be filed in the X.Org bugzilla. Once they're > resolved by the upstream maintainers, we will review the changes > for potential inclusion in future builds. I disagree - this is a Fedora Core issue, not an X.org issue. In both cases (X and console), the upstreams has done their jobs and provided working maps, they're just not being used or made accessible to users by FC. Anaconda and system-config-keyboard are both FC/RedHat projects. -- Chris Tyler From monty19 at hotmail.com Fri Feb 17 02:34:35 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:34:35 +0900 Subject: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! (Xen) References: <20060216144352.GE13188@redhat.com> Message-ID: I will file a bug report. Nothing is getting written to /var/log/dmesg. This is example output to the screen: # yum -y update Loading "installonlyn" plugin Setting up Update Process Setting up repositories development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 extras-dev: ################################################## 2/2 extras-development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files primary.xml.gz 81% |==================== | 1.0 MB 00:04 ETA BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! Pid: 0, comm: swapper EIP: 0061:[] CPU: 0 EIP is at 0xc01040c7 EFLAGS: 00200246 Not tainted (2.6.15-1.1948_FC5guest) EAX: 00000000 EBX: 00000001 ECX: 00000000 EDX: 00000000 ESI: 00000000 EDI: c02ea000 EBP: 00000020 DS: 007b ES: 007b CR0: 8005003b CR2: bfaac8d6 CR3: 0f333000 CR4: 00000600 [] xen_idle+0x59/0x68 [] cpu_idle+0x8b/0xa4 [] start_kernel+0x2ed/0x2f3 primary.xml.gz 82% |==================== | 1.0 MB 08:20 ETA BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! Pid: 0, comm: swapper EIP: 0061:[] CPU: 0 EIP is at 0xc01040c7 EFLAGS: 00000246 Not tainted (2.6.15-1.1948_FC5guest) EAX: 00000000 EBX: 00000001 ECX: 00000000 EDX: 00000000 ESI: 00000000 EDI: c02ea000 EBP: 00000020 DS: 007b ES: 007b CR0: 8005003b CR2: bfaac8d6 CR3: 013aa000 CR4: 00000600 [] xen_idle+0x59/0x68 [] cpu_idle+0x8b/0xa4 [] start_kernel+0x2ed/0x2f3 primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 1.2 MB 02:36 developmen: #### 391/4303BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! Pid: 11118, comm: yum EIP: 0073:[<02af8681>] CPU: 0 EIP is at 0x2af8681 ESP: 007b:bfbb60d0 EFLAGS: 00200246 Not tainted (2.6.15-1.1948_FC5guest) EAX: 00000000 EBX: 02bb10a4 ECX: 00000000 EDX: 00000000 ESI: b7a523cc EDI: b7a4fbec EBP: bfbb60f8 DS: 007b ES: 007b CR0: 80050033 CR2: 0ae9e000 CR3: 0f333000 CR4: 00000600 developmen: ################################################## 4303/4303 Added 4303 new packages, deleted 0 old in 329.86 seconds primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 1.2 MB 00:13 extras-dev: ################################################## 3482/3482 Added 3482 new packages, deleted 0 old in 158.41 seconds No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion I will include the information in the bug report, when I write it up tonight. Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Jones" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:43 PM Subject: Re: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! (Xen) > On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 09:16:45PM +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: > > Is anyone else getting error messages, if they start yum both on the > > host > > and guest to the effect of "soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" The guest > > terminal throws more information and stop responding, but after several > > seconds behaving normally where it left off. > > Please file a bug, with the output of dmesg after one of these > has occured. It could be indicative of a real problem, or > it could be a false-positive that needs us to poke the watchdog > timer in some routine where we currently spend too much time. > > Dave > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From smooge at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 02:38:31 2006 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:38:31 -0700 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602161804r3a897b3fpe70ccf3c85e40c64@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <43F52814.4030905@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161804r3a897b3fpe70ccf3c85e40c64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <80d7e4090602161838r5e31df57ja79a1621c3a47e24@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, Jeff Spaleta wrote: Removed parts where Jeff points out http://wired.com/news/technology/0,70179-0.html?tw=wn_index_2 > > just because it has gnome in the name means its gnome specific? Did > you read the page i reference... the goal is to build a desktop > neutral approach so each desktop can integrate screensaver control > into its UI in a way that makes sense for that desktop environment. > Would you feel better if it were named freedesktop.org-screensaver? > > -jef > I would say yes.. that would be the best bet for many of these neutral items. The word GNOME and KDE have become very heavy in the brain of a lot of people. The 'marketing' of the words puts people into For/Against camps which makes it hard to figure out when something is not another marketing win for one side or the other. I figure that this article kind of shows what might be happening. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/01/060131092225.htm -- Stephen J Smoogen. CSIRT/Linux System Administrator From wowbagger at sktc.net Fri Feb 17 03:13:18 2006 From: wowbagger at sktc.net (David D. Hagood) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:13:18 -0600 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602161804r3a897b3fpe70ccf3c85e40c64@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <43F52814.4030905@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161804r3a897b3fpe70ccf3c85e40c64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F53F4E.9020504@sktc.net> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/16/06, David D. Hagood wrote: > I am not part of the gnome team.. I am a user. And at no point did i > call you stupid. Being uninformed isn't being stupid. Not recognizing > long-term benefits which you personally aren't going to make use of > isn't being stupid. Quoting your original response: > You might not understand, in the short-term, the long-term benefits to Now, had you said something along the lines of "Well, have you looked at the homepage for gnome-screensaver (url)? There are some good future directions they want to go in" I would not have reacted at I did. However, your response was one of "You don't agree, so you must not understand." Perhaps I do understand, but I think they are missing some points? Nor did I ever say you were a member of the Gnome devel team - rather, I pointed out the attitude that has become prevalent in the Gnome universe, as quoted in several commentaries online, that if somebody dares to criticize the direction Gnome is going in to imply the person so questioning is somehow not as clueful as the Gnome developers. > I'm pointing out that there are long term benefits which you may not > recognize as being important. And again, you start from the assumption that the Gnome way is right, and if I don't agree I must be the one who is wrong. Perhaps these "long-term benefits" are NOT benefits? Mind you, I think there ARE good ideas there. However, I am just pointing out why I responded to your response as I did - you started off with an assumption that you were not questioning. In my 20 years of designing software, one thing I've learned is to ALWAYS question your assumptions. It ain't what we don't know, it's what we know that's wrong, as Pogo said. > just because it has gnome in the name means its gnome specific? Did Because that is what having Gnome in the name means. > Would you feel better if it were named freedesktop.org-screensaver? > Perhaps not such a long name, but yes, one that is more neutral than GnomeScreensaver. How about xscreensaver-ng? From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 03:44:59 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:44:59 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <43F53F4E.9020504@sktc.net> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <43F52814.4030905@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161804r3a897b3fpe70ccf3c85e40c64@mail.gmail.com> <43F53F4E.9020504@sktc.net> Message-ID: <604aa7910602161944u3079987fy1261381e893161a0@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, David D. Hagood wrote: > Nor did I ever say you were a member of the Gnome devel team - > rather, I pointed out the attitude that has become prevalent in the > Gnome universe, as quoted in several commentaries online Please stop dragging general misconceptions about how the gnome development team responses into this discussion. I am not a member of the gnome development team and how i response to people has no bearing on the attitudes of the gnome developmers. I am a user who regularly uses fluxbox,xfce,gnome,fvwm and infrequently uses kde and cde depending on the system defaults in question. Will you ascribe my personal failings to represent the attitudes of developers of xfce as easily.. i hope not. I fully admit I'm a rude, insensitive, uncaring know-it-all bastard and what desktop I use has little to know influence on that fact. > And again, you start from the assumption that the Gnome way is right, > and if I don't agree I must be the one who is wrong. Perhaps these > "long-term benefits" are NOT benefits? Why has this discussion become a black and white discussion of right versus wrong? Having the ability to switch users from the unlock dialog isn't a benefit? Being able to implement "lockdown" per-user configurations at the system level as the system admin on a multuser network easily isn't a benefit? I'd appeciate knowing your reasons for seeing these things as non-benefits. I promise not to feel stupid when you point out a downside that is obvious once I'm told about it. > > Mind you, I think there ARE good ideas there. However, I am just > pointing out why I responded to your response as I did - you started off > with an assumption that you were not questioning. In my 20 years of > designing software, one thing I've learned is to ALWAYS question > your > assumptions. Indeed, I also assumed that participating in this discussion might be worthwhile. I was clearly mistaken. > Perhaps not such a long name, but yes, one that is more neutral than > GnomeScreensaver. How about xscreensaver-ng? I don't think reusing the name "xscreensaver" is appropriate, and will lead to confusion that this is a closely related fork of the original codebase when it is not. --jef"a rose by any other name will not only smells as sweet, but will also appearently lead to less reactionary behavior by people who have a deep seated bias against roses"spaleta From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 03:56:26 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:56:26 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <80d7e4090602161838r5e31df57ja79a1621c3a47e24@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <43F52814.4030905@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161804r3a897b3fpe70ccf3c85e40c64@mail.gmail.com> <80d7e4090602161838r5e31df57ja79a1621c3a47e24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602161956m7f19eb63o5e1b9c46dd560762@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > I would say yes.. that would be the best bet for many of these neutral > items. The word GNOME and KDE have become very heavy in the > brain of a lot of people. Sad but true. I would imagine over time that the neutralish bits of gnome-screensaver will be put into a neutralish named package as kde and gnome converge towards the same neutralish solution at the developer level just to keep users from freaking out for having something named gnome on their gnome desktopless system. The same sort of thing happens at the application level. I've seen complaints about the "evolution-data-server" package being installed even though "evolution" isn't. I bet Fedora Directory Server and any other Fedora branded codebases will run into the same sort of brainwave impendance if they make the leap to wide distribution. -jef From dfordham at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 04:07:34 2006 From: dfordham at gmail.com (Doug Fordham) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:07:34 -0500 Subject: Issue with selinux and swapfiles in FC5? In-Reply-To: References: <43F49963.8070801@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43F54C06.60805@gmail.com> Fabio Comolli wrote: > Hi. > > >> On 2/16/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> >>> Fabio Mollify wrote: >>> >> Who in the hell is Fabio Mollify??????? >> >> > > forgot the :-) > > >>>> Hi. I found this line in my logs: >>>> >>>> audit(1140033999.212:6): avc: denied { write } for pid=2171 >>>> comm="swapon" name="swapfile" dev=sda2 ino=67052 >>>> scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 >>>> tcontext=system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=file >>>> >>>> I'm just experimenting with selinux, so I set it up in permissive mode >>>> and the swap was activated. >>>> >>>> Is there a way to get rid of it? (or can it be considered harmless?) >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> Fabio >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> chcon -t swapfile_t swapfile >>> >>> should fix the problem. (swapfile_t needs to be made a customizable >>> type. Also needs a man page) >>> >>> > > Unfortunately it didn't work: > > root at kepler ~]# ls -Z /swapfile > -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:swapfile_t /swapfile > > but the warning in dmesg is still there: > > audit(1140109455.801:6): avc: denied { read } for pid=2165 > comm="swapon" name="swapfile" dev=sda2 ino=67052 > scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 > tcontext=system_u:object_r:swapfile_t:s0 tclass=file > audit(1140109455.810:7): avc: denied { write } for pid=2165 > comm="swapon" name="swapfile" dev=sda2 ino=67052 > scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 > tcontext=system_u:object_r:swapfile_t:s0 tclass=file > > Should I try: chcon -t fsadm_t /swapfile ? > > Thanks again, > Fabio > > After today's update, in addition to the swapfile entry: audit(1140147570.846:4): avc: denied { write } for pid=1050 comm="mount" name="blkid.tab" dev=dm-0 ino=2127396 scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 tclass=file audit(1140147572.454:5): avc: denied { write } for pid=1099 comm="swapon" name="blkid.tab" dev=dm-0 ino=2127396 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 tclass=file Adding 1048568k swap on /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:1048568k ...also, have the following in dmesg: audit(1140129521.520:2): avc: denied { write } for pid=349 comm="restorecon" name="[952]" dev=pipefs ino=952 scontext=system_u:system_r:restorecon_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:restorecon_t:s0 tclass=fifo_file audit(1140129521.520:3): avc: denied { read } for pid=348 comm="restorecon" name="[952]" dev=pipefs ino=952 scontext=system_u:system_r:restorecon_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:restorecon_t:s0 tclass=fifo_file audit(1140147577.742:6): avc: denied { read } for pid=1131 comm="readahead" name="display" dev=ramfs ino=3278 scontext=system_u:system_r:readahead_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ramfs_t:s0 tclass=file audit(1140147577.742:7): avc: denied { read } for pid=1131 comm="readahead" name="rhgb-console" dev=ramfs ino=3350 scontext=system_u:system_r:readahead_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:ramfs_t:s0 tclass=fifo_file From mgleahy at golden.net Fri Feb 17 05:20:24 2006 From: mgleahy at golden.net (Mike Leahy) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:20:24 -0500 Subject: KDE screensaver Message-ID: <43F55D18.8050009@golden.net> Hello list, I'm just wondering if anyone knows why I'm unable to open the screensaver settings in the KDE desktop...I think I asked this a few weeks ago, but I don't think anyone had an answer at the time, as I had nothing to show from my audit log. At any rate, I tried this again (this hasn't worked at all since that first attempt), and I did find the messages (below) appearing in the audit log when I tried to open the settings dialogue again. If this is an SELinux issue (as Rahul originally suspected), how should I go about resolving it? Thanks in advance for any help, Mike type=USER_AUTH msg=audit(1140153148.074:1925): user pid=11876 uid=500 auid=500 msg='PAM: authentication acct=root : exe="/bin/su" (hostname=?, addr=?, terminal=pts/5 res=success)' type=USER_ACCT msg=audit(1140153148.074:1926): user pid=11876 uid=500 auid=500 msg='PAM: accounting acct=root : exe="/bin/su" (hostname=?, addr=?, terminal=pts/5 res=success)' type=USER_START msg=audit(1140153148.190:1927): user pid=11876 uid=500 auid=500 msg='PAM: session open acct=root : exe="/bin/su" (hostname=?, addr=?, terminal=pts/5 res=success)' type=CRED_ACQ msg=audit(1140153148.190:1928): user pid=11876 uid=500 auid=500 msg='PAM: setcred acct=root : exe="/bin/su" (hostname=?, addr=?, terminal=pts/5 res=success)' type=AVC msg=audit(1140153183.272:1929): avc: denied { execstack } for pid=11897 comm="kcmshell" scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1140153183.272:1929): arch=40000003 syscall=125 success=no exit=-13 a0=bfc01000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=fffff000 items=0 pid=11897 auid=500 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="kcmshell" exe="/usr/bin/kdeinit" type=AVC msg=audit(1140153183.272:1930): avc: denied { execstack } for pid=11897 comm="kcmshell" scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1140153183.272:1930): arch=40000003 syscall=125 success=no exit=-13 a0=bfc01000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=fffff000 items=0 pid=11897 auid=500 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="kcmshell" exe="/usr/bin/kdeinit" type=AVC msg=audit(1140153211.694:1931): avc: denied { execstack } for pid=11900 comm="kcmshell" scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1140153211.694:1931): arch=40000003 syscall=125 success=no exit=-13 a0=bfc01000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=fffff000 items=0 pid=11900 auid=500 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="kcmshell" exe="/usr/bin/kdeinit" type=AVC msg=audit(1140153211.694:1932): avc: denied { execstack } for pid=11900 comm="kcmshell" scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1140153211.694:1932): arch=40000003 syscall=125 success=no exit=-13 a0=bfc01000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=fffff000 items=0 pid=11900 auid=500 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="kcmshell" exe="/usr/bin/kdeinit" type=AVC msg=audit(1140153246.196:1933): avc: denied { execstack } for pid=11903 comm="kcmshell" scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1140153246.196:1933): arch=40000003 syscall=125 success=no exit=-13 a0=bfc01000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=fffff000 items=0 pid=11903 auid=500 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="kcmshell" exe="/usr/bin/kdeinit" type=AVC msg=audit(1140153246.196:1934): avc: denied { execstack } for pid=11903 comm="kcmshell" scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=process type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1140153246.196:1934): arch=40000003 syscall=125 success=no exit=-13 a0=bfc01000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=fffff000 items=0 pid=11903 auid=500 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="kcmshell" exe="/usr/bin/kdeinit" From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 17 05:27:33 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:57:33 +0530 Subject: KDE screensaver In-Reply-To: <43F55D18.8050009@golden.net> References: <43F55D18.8050009@golden.net> Message-ID: <43F55EC5.7080100@fedoraproject.org> Mike Leahy wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm just wondering if anyone knows why I'm unable to open the > screensaver settings in the KDE desktop...I think I asked this a few > weeks ago, but I don't think anyone had an answer at the time, as I > had nothing to show from my audit log. At any rate, I tried this > again (this hasn't worked at all since that first attempt), and I did > find the messages (below) appearing in the audit log when I tried to > open the settings dialogue again. If this is an SELinux issue (as > Rahul originally suspected), how should I go about resolving it? So how do I resolve and provide a feedback on a potential SELinux issue or any issue for that matter?. Thats a good question to ask. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing If its a SELinux related one you might get AVC denied errors in the audit or messages log. Then you set it to permissive and check if the issues goes away. We have a troubleshooting section to understand in depth whats happening at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELinux. Post to fedora-selinux list if it a SELinux policy issue or to this list otherwise asking if anyone else has seen the problem. Followup with a bug report on http://bugzilla.redhat.com. Post to this list with the bugzilla link just so that people are aware of the common issues and dont post duplicates. If you are problem isnt fixed on a reasonable amount of time followup on this or the fedora-devel list especially if you consider it a major regression or blocker bug for any particular test release. Do it in a way that provides developers enough time to fix the issue and get a release out. Thats the way to go. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Fri Feb 17 06:03:02 2006 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 01:03:02 -0500 Subject: Problems with deskbar-applet In-Reply-To: <95ac75570602161633r5c6aa8c6u98c7cb0e07554d9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1140148969.2379.5.camel@paradise.siancu.net> <1140135547.4578.10.camel@ignacio.lan> <95ac75570602161633r5c6aa8c6u98c7cb0e07554d9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140156182.9603.2.camel@ignacio.lan> On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 16:33 -0800, Alain Mellan wrote: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/deskbar-applet/deskbar-applet", line 40, in ? > gettext.bindtextdomain('deskbar-applet', > abspath(join(deskbar.defs.DATA_DIR, "locale"))) > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/posixpath.py", line 59, in join > for b in p: > IOError: prctl unavailable > Exit 1 A new package has been built that should solve this. It will be available with the next Extras Rawhide publish. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 06:23:14 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 01:23:14 -0500 Subject: Rawhide (today) -- Repeated I/O lockups forcing me to power cycle my laptop Message-ID: Hello, I haven't been able to determine a pattern to these lockups. Mostly, they seem to happen when the machine is idle. I don't know if they were related to running xscreensaver. Maybe there was some connection to a 3D screensaver? I am running SELinux enforced. The most recent lockup seemed to come gradually. My mouse became more and more unresponsive, but "top" did not show any process hogging the CPU. I probably should have checked memory consumption, but I forgot. I don't recall the hard drive thrashing. Also, background processes continued running happily (the clock applet, the system monitor applet, etc). I did notice in one of the logs today, the following: Feb 16 20:52:08 hogwarts kernel: ACPI Exception (evregion-0409): AE_TIME, Returned by Handler for [EmbeddedControl] [20060127] Feb 16 20:52:08 hogwarts kernel: ACPI Exception (dswexec-0458): AE_TIME, While resolving operands for [AE_NOT_CONFIGURED] [20060127] Feb 16 20:52:08 hogwarts kernel: ACPI Error (psparse-0517): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.ACAD._PSR] (Node f7f00ae4), AE_TIME Feb 16 20:52:08 hogwarts kernel: ACPI Exception (evregion-0409): AE_TIME, Returned by Handler for [EmbeddedControl] [20060127] Feb 16 20:52:08 hogwarts kernel: ACPI Error (psparse-0517): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0._BST] (Node f7f00d4c), AE_TIME Feb 16 20:52:38 hogwarts kernel: ACPI Exception (evregion-0409): AE_TIME, Returned by Handler for [EmbeddedControl] [20060127] Feb 16 20:52:38 hogwarts kernel: ACPI Exception (dswexec-0458): AE_TIME, While resolving operands for [AE_NOT_CONFIGURED] [20060127] Feb 16 20:52:38 hogwarts kernel: ACPI Error (psparse-0517): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.ACAD._PSR] (Node f7f00ae4), AE_TIME Feb 16 20:52:38 hogwarts kernel: ACPI Exception (evregion-0409): AE_TIME, Returned by Handler for [EmbeddedControl] [20060127] Feb 16 20:52:38 hogwarts kernel: ACPI Error (psparse-0517): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0._BST] (Node f7f00d4c), AE_TIME From roger at gwch.net Fri Feb 17 06:59:35 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:59:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? In-Reply-To: References: <1140112660.2410.0.camel@niobe> Message-ID: <33326.193.73.106.103.1140159575.squirrel@www.gwch.net> >>From: Roger Grosswiler >>Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >> >>To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >> >>Subject: Re: ACX111-Chipset supported by NetworkManager? >>Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:57:39 +0100 >> >>Am Donnerstag, den 16.02.2006, 18:52 +0100 schrieb Dominik 'Rathann' >>Mierzejewski: >> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 09:49:01AM -0700, Don Springall wrote: >> > > >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 06:44:39AM -0500, Bob Chiodini wrote: >> > > >>> On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 22:00 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > i use a d-link DWL-G650+ with the ACX111-Chipset. Until now, i >>used >> > > >>> > ndiswrapper (which is working quite well also with >>wpa_supplicant) >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > As new NetworkManager supports WPA too, i would give him a >> try, >>if it >> > > >>> > would support ACX111. >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > Somebody found a list of supported chipsets by NetworkManager? >> > > >>> >> > > >>> http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Has drivers. Unfortunately you will need to recompile them as >> new >> > > >>> kernels are released. I believe Ubuntu uses them and they work >>very >> > > >>> well on my Ubuntu laptop and a DWL-650+ (no 'G' in the P/N). >> > > >> >> > > >> I'm planning to submit a package with those to Fedora Extras. >> > > >> I've been building RPMs with these for personal use for some time >> > > >> now. >> > > >> >> > > >1) This is good news, having those in extras soon >> > > > >> > > >2) i would like to now, if those drivers are >> networkmanager-enabled. >>As i >> > > >know, ndiswrapper isn't. And as networkmanager supports now wpa i >>would >> > > >like this :-D >> > > > >> > > Does the acx111 driver work with a 4 K stack or do you need to >>re-compile >> > > with a 8 k stack ? >> > >> > NDIS driver didn't work with 4K stack for me, i.e. it crashed. >> > Open-source driver works more or less fine, although transfer >> > rates are lower. I haven't had enough time to get around to debugging >> > this so far. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > -- >> i had no problem using ndiswrapper with the 4k-stack with my d-link >>dwl-g650+ > Does that have the Ti chipset ? I thought they we using a broadcom chip > for > that series. Dmesg logs me, that a TI-Chipset is recognized, when ndiswrapper loads its module. It could be, that there are different version of the same model around... Rog From roger at gwch.net Fri Feb 17 07:40:16 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:40:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? Message-ID: <59968.193.73.106.103.1140162016.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Hey, I would like to learn some C-Programming and was looking for a nice IDE and felt over Anjuta. After installing, i saw the same as filed in Bug #176233 ? Crash at startup in anjuta_encoding_get_encodings() I saw, this Bug was entered in December and it is still new. Is nobody maintaining Anjuta? Bug see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176233 Thx, Roger From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 07:50:50 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 02:50:50 -0500 Subject: Rawhide -- Cannot run amaroK (Bug #178262 -- libGL.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires) Message-ID: Any ETA on getting a solution? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178262 amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied From buildsys at redhat.com Fri Feb 17 08:19:18 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:19:18 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060217 changes Message-ID: <200602170819.k1H8JI1T011188@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: xorg-x11-drivers-7.0-2 ---------------------- * Thu Feb 16 2006 Bill Nottingham - 7.0-2 - uncomment (empty) file list so binary RPMs are built * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 7.0-1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Thu Feb 09 2006 Mike Harris 7.0-1 - Bumped version to 7.0-1 - Updated the driver list to match current rawhide, X11R7.0 Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- gulm-devel - 1.0.0-2.ppc requires gulm = 0:1.0.0-2 magma-plugins - 1.0.3-1.FC5.ppc requires libgulm.so.1 magma-plugins - 1.0.3-1.FC5.ppc requires libdlm_lt.so.1 Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi gulm-devel - 1.0.0-2.ppc64 requires gulm = 0:1.0.0-2 magma-plugins - 1.0.3-1.FC5.ppc64 requires libdlm_lt.so.1()(64bit) magma-plugins - 1.0.3-1.FC5.ppc64 requires libgulm.so.1()(64bit) vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) From gnomeuser at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 08:25:17 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:25:17 +0100 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602161956m7f19eb63o5e1b9c46dd560762@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <43F52814.4030905@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161804r3a897b3fpe70ccf3c85e40c64@mail.gmail.com> <80d7e4090602161838r5e31df57ja79a1621c3a47e24@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910602161956m7f19eb63o5e1b9c46dd560762@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140164718.14908.4.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> tor, 16 02 2006 kl. 22:56 -0500, skrev Jeff Spaleta: > The same sort of thing happens at the application level. I've seen > complaints about the "evolution-data-server" package being installed > even though "evolution" isn't. Sometimes KDE users are a bit antsy when it comes to non-KDE packages on their system. I don't generally complain because I have QT and arts installed on my default GNOME system, I mean sure they take up space and I don't need them in my daily life - but it's a binary upgrade - I suffer no illeffects from having them installed, instead it enables me to easily get KDE/QT programs running on my machine. Dependencies are normally not installed just for kicks. If the biggest complaint about Fedora for anyone is a few unwanted dependencies they should praise themselves lucky, their system works so well they have time to spare to spot such things that don't apply on their specific system. - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From stelian.iancu at gmx.net Fri Feb 17 09:07:04 2006 From: stelian.iancu at gmx.net (Stelian Iancu) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:07:04 +0100 Subject: Problems with deskbar-applet In-Reply-To: <1140156182.9603.2.camel@ignacio.lan> References: <1140148969.2379.5.camel@paradise.siancu.net> <1140135547.4578.10.camel@ignacio.lan> <95ac75570602161633r5c6aa8c6u98c7cb0e07554d9c@mail.gmail.com> <1140156182.9603.2.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <43F59238.4060602@gmx.net> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > > A new package has been built that should solve this. It will be > available with the next Extras Rawhide publish. > Cool! Thanks a bunch! Stelian From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Fri Feb 17 09:09:50 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:09:50 +0100 Subject: Rawhide -- Cannot run amaroK (Bug #178262 -- libGL.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1140167390.2980.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 02:50 -0500, Miles Lane wrote: > Any ETA on getting a solution? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178262 > amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot > enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied we need to have our libGL.so fixed to not need this, or at least have it labeled properly. you are using fedora's libGL.so right, and not one from certain video driver manufacturers ? From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 09:21:53 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 04:21:53 -0500 Subject: Rawhide -- Cannot run amaroK (Bug #178262 -- libGL.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires) In-Reply-To: <1140167390.2980.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1140167390.2980.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: On 2/17/06, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 02:50 -0500, Miles Lane wrote: > > Any ETA on getting a solution? > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178262 > > amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot > > enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied > > we need to have our libGL.so fixed to not need this, or at least have it > labeled properly. I downloaded some Livna libraries and found that some of them trigger this same problem. Do Redhat's commercial releases provide the digital media support (mp3, aac, m4a, dvd decoding/encoding, etc.)? It looks like you'll be running into this SELinux issue when you do release these other libraries. Is this issue one that can be resolved through coding changes for libraries? Is this an education issue for OSS developers? > you are using fedora's libGL.so right, and not one from certain video > driver manufacturers ? Name : mesa-libGL Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 6.4.2 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. Release : 2.1 Build Date: Sun 12 Feb 2006 02:31:34 AM EST Install Date: Mon 13 Feb 2006 09:55:33 AM EST Build Host: ls20-bc1-14.build.redhat.com Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM: mesa-6.4.2-2.1.src.rpm From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Fri Feb 17 09:45:26 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:45:26 +0100 Subject: Rawhide -- Cannot run amaroK (Bug #178262 -- libGL.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires) In-Reply-To: References: <1140167390.2980.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <1140169526.2980.22.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> > It looks like you'll be running into this SELinux issue when > you do release these other libraries. Is this issue one that can be > resolved through coding changes for libraries? yes. In fact, I'd call it a hard bug if this triggers. That's a tiny bit overstated, since there are a few valid cases, but those are rare and far between. 99.9% of the times it's just a silly thing that needs fixing. > Is this an education > issue for OSS developers? I think so. Or just maintainers who don't care about security at all. It's not "just" an SELinux issue. The issue is bigger: anything using such libraries runs with the various buffer overflow etc protections disabled. SELinux is just the messenger in no longer allowing such insecure thing to happen silently. From patrick at wudika.de Fri Feb 17 10:05:09 2006 From: patrick at wudika.de (Patrick von der Hagen) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:05:09 +0100 Subject: Rawhide -- Cannot run amaroK (Bug #178262 -- libGL.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F59FD5.6020501@wudika.de> Miles Lane wrote: > Any ETA on getting a solution? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178262 > amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot > enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied amarokapp was one of the applications which started to work after running "system-config-securitylevel" like this: On the SELinux tab under "Modify SELinux Policy" click "Compatibility", then tick the check boxes for "Allow executables to run with executable stack" and "Allow the use of shared libraries with Text Relocation". Then click the "OK" button. Taken from http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-92810.html -- CU, Patrick. From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Fri Feb 17 10:25:20 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:25:20 +0100 Subject: Rawhide -- Cannot run amaroK (Bug #178262 -- libGL.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires) In-Reply-To: <43F59FD5.6020501@wudika.de> References: <43F59FD5.6020501@wudika.de> Message-ID: <1140171920.2980.24.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 11:05 +0100, Patrick von der Hagen wrote: > Miles Lane wrote: > > Any ETA on getting a solution? > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178262 > > amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot > > enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied > amarokapp was one of the applications which started to work after > running "system-config-securitylevel" like this: > On the SELinux tab under "Modify SELinux Policy" click "Compatibility", > then tick the check boxes for "Allow executables to run with executable > stack" and "Allow the use of shared libraries with Text Relocation". > Then click the "OK" button. > > Taken from > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-92810.html this is the wrong solution though.... the right solution is to either 1) fix the libary or 2) mark THIS library for OK doing this blindly is like robbing a bank to solve your $25 credit card debt ;) From patrick at wudika.de Fri Feb 17 11:03:17 2006 From: patrick at wudika.de (Patrick von der Hagen) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:03:17 +0100 Subject: Rawhide -- Cannot run amaroK (Bug #178262 -- libGL.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires) In-Reply-To: <1140171920.2980.24.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <43F59FD5.6020501@wudika.de> <1140171920.2980.24.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <43F5AD75.3000205@wudika.de> Arjan van de Ven wrote: [...] > this is the wrong solution though.... the right solution is to either It isn't a solution at all. It's just a workaround. There is no doubt that the "real" problem should be solved, but until this happens, this workaround enables or disables amarok, flash and shockwave. > 1) fix the libary > or > 2) mark THIS library for OK > > doing this blindly is like robbing a bank to solve your $25 credit > card debt ;) I hope there are few people on this list doing such things blindly... but sometimes I just overestimate (or underestimate) what people are up to ..... -- CU, Patrick. From tarjei.knapstad at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 11:11:29 2006 From: tarjei.knapstad at gmail.com (Tarjei Knapstad) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:11:29 +0100 Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? In-Reply-To: <59968.193.73.106.103.1140162016.squirrel@www.gwch.net> References: <59968.193.73.106.103.1140162016.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Message-ID: On 2/17/06, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > Hey, > > I would like to learn some C-Programming and was looking for a nice IDE > and felt over Anjuta. After installing, i saw the same as filed in Bug > #176233 ? Crash at startup in anjuta_encoding_get_encodings() > > I saw, this Bug was entered in December and it is still new. Is nobody > maintaining Anjuta? > > Bug see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176233 > Yes, there is no maintainer for Anjuta in Fedora Extras at the moment. See: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/OrphanedPackages Feel free to take over :) If you're just looking for a nice IDE, try KDevelop or Eclipse which are both in Core. -- Tarjei From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Feb 17 11:13:59 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:13:59 +0000 Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? In-Reply-To: References: <59968.193.73.106.103.1140162016.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Message-ID: <1140174839.24328.25.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> Hi, > If you're just looking for a nice IDE, try KDevelop or Eclipse which > are both in Core. The nice thing about Anjuta is that it's lightweight and doesn't make assumptions about what you need to do out of the box. Is it me or is Eclipse just an awful IDE? It seems incredibly bloated for what it does. TTFN Paul -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" - Dr Who From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Feb 17 11:18:11 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:18:11 +0000 Subject: Building mono apps with current rawhide on x86_64 Message-ID: <1140175091.24328.31.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> Hi, I'm trying to build gtksourceview-sharp on my x86_64 box. The archive dearchives and the build starts fine. Then stops dead after compiling the first line of code. This seems to happen when I try to do *anything* with the x86_64 version of mono. Is anyone else seeing this? TTFN Paul P.S. The packages I currently have waiting for review (ikvm, mysql-connector-sharp, monodoc, gtksourceview-sharp and monodevelop) all build happily under x86 -- "Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority" - Dr Who From stelian.iancu at gmx.net Fri Feb 17 11:23:43 2006 From: stelian.iancu at gmx.net (Stelian Iancu) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:23:43 +0100 Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? In-Reply-To: <1140174839.24328.25.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> References: <59968.193.73.106.103.1140162016.squirrel@www.gwch.net> <1140174839.24328.25.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> Message-ID: <43F5B23F.4030301@gmx.net> > Is it me or is Eclipse just an awful IDE? It seems incredibly bloated > for what it does. That's because Eclipse is not an IDE. CDT is the the IDE within Eclipse for C/C++. Stelian From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Fri Feb 17 11:56:12 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 06:56:12 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> Message-ID: <43F5B9DC.7010909@insight.rr.com> David D. Hagood wrote: > Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver? > gnome-screensaver does not do DPMS, so my monitor stays on all the time > boiling the cathodes away. gnome-screensaver doesn't have the eyecandy > that xscreensaver has. In short, it seems a far less capable replacement. > > So why was xscreensaver removed? > Good question regarding removal of a better product for a scaled down and less configurable product. I prefer xscreensaver over gnome-screensaver myself. Gnome-screensaver was improved to have the ability to use xsreensaver items if installed. Not including the xscreensavers package at all would make Linux look more homogenized with MS Windows. Though xscreensaver is highly an eycandy item, Windows does not have such attractive features. Xscreensaver should stay at least for a marketing item to attract users from Windows to Linux. I guess xscreensaver is still available for Linux. The program most likely will become available from other sources quickly. I'm still removing gnome-screensaver in favor of xscreensaver. Jim From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 12:11:42 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:11:42 -0500 Subject: Rawhide -- Cannot run amaroK (Bug #178262 -- libGL.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires) In-Reply-To: <1140169526.2980.22.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1140167390.2980.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1140169526.2980.22.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: On 2/17/06, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > It looks like you'll be running into this SELinux issue when > > you do release these other libraries. Is this issue one that can be > > resolved through coding changes for libraries? Here are two Livna libraries that trigger the problem: /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmpg123.so: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied /usr/lib/xmms/Visualization/libbscope.so: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied > yes. In fact, I'd call it a hard bug if this triggers. That's a tiny bit > overstated, since there are a few valid cases, but those are rare and > far between. 99.9% of the times it's just a silly thing that needs > fixing. > > > Is this an education > > issue for OSS developers? > > I think so. Or just maintainers who don't care about security at all. > It's not "just" an SELinux issue. The issue is bigger: anything using > such libraries runs with the various buffer overflow etc protections > disabled. SELinux is just the messenger in no longer allowing such > insecure thing to happen silently. From borgi2008 at yahoo.de Fri Feb 17 11:45:12 2006 From: borgi2008 at yahoo.de (Borgi2008) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:45:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? In-Reply-To: <43F5B23F.4030301@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20060217114512.43638.qmail@web26001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hello, i want anjuta too because it is lightweight, manages the gnu buildsystem make right and all include paths, library paths and so on. I've build me an rpm with a patch for the segfault on start but i get a few other errors which limit anjuta in its functions. but it is better than nothing. I would like to get anjuta back. Hendrik Borghorst ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de From roger at gwch.net Fri Feb 17 12:47:57 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:47:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: xen and guest os Message-ID: <30957.193.73.106.103.1140180477.squirrel@www.gwch.net> hey community :-) still searching for information about xen. Is it now possible to install other guest os than fc (eg. freebsd, openbsd) within xen without having modified guest-os? if no, where can i find those variants? Thanks a lot in advance Roger From w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk Fri Feb 17 13:30:17 2006 From: w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:30:17 +0000 Subject: lvm suspend with kernel 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 Message-ID: <1140183018.2723.5.camel@billmurray.pp.rl.ac.uk> Hello all, I tried the suspend-to-disk with the new kernel, 1955. It definitely fixes the lvm issue, and shuts down nicely. However, on reboot for me everything works except the display comes up black with a little band of colour at the top. remote logins are fine; Xorg is takin 95% of CPU. Attempting to telinit 3 seemed to hang, and I rebooted. Any ideas what might be wrong? [It looks rather the suspend to ram, but that did not have a working system underneath] From alan at redhat.com Fri Feb 17 13:54:56 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:54:56 -0500 Subject: xen and guest os In-Reply-To: <30957.193.73.106.103.1140180477.squirrel@www.gwch.net> References: <30957.193.73.106.103.1140180477.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Message-ID: <20060217135456.GA30393@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:47:57PM +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > still searching for information about xen. Is it now possible to install > other guest os than fc (eg. freebsd, openbsd) within xen without having > modified guest-os? You need a Xen aware guest or a CPU with hardware virtualisation support > if no, where can i find those variants? wiki.xensource.com should give you the info you need From roger at gwch.net Fri Feb 17 14:23:12 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:23:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: xen and guest os In-Reply-To: <20060217135456.GA30393@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <30957.193.73.106.103.1140180477.squirrel@www.gwch.net> <20060217135456.GA30393@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <50458.193.73.106.103.1140186192.squirrel@www.gwch.net> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:47:57PM +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: >> still searching for information about xen. Is it now possible to install >> other guest os than fc (eg. freebsd, openbsd) within xen without having >> modified guest-os? > > You need a Xen aware guest or a CPU with hardware virtualisation support > >> if no, where can i find those variants? > > wiki.xensource.com should give you the info you need > > -- Thanks Alan! Cheers, Roger From tbrinkman at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 17 14:33:59 2006 From: tbrinkman at sbcglobal.net (Tom Brinkman) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:33:59 -0600 Subject: HWADDR - ifcfg-eth0 - kudzu ??'s Message-ID: <200602170833.59445.tbrinkman@sbcglobal.net> I installed FC5-t2 about six weeks ago. It has been updated to rawhide daily since. Thurs. morning I enabled kudzu, shut down, removed a pci D-link nic card (8139too) to try an solve dsl connection problems (drops). On boot I entered bios an enabled the onboard 3Com 3c940 (skge) nic on my old Asus A7V600. Rebooted an kudzu found the changed nic an configured it for the connection. dsl problems have stopped since. Thurs. (yesterday) afternoon I shutdown to boot the new kernel (1955). I noticed a mesg that the hwaddr for my nic was wrong... ignoring. After booting back up, dsl started on boot an everything was workin properly. I looked in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 an sure'nuff, the HWaddr shown was different than what '/sbin/ifconfig' reported (I'm sure the d-link's numbers), so I edited the file (which also changed the two ifcfg-eth0 files linked to it). BTW, ifcfg-eth0 from my previous distro, Mandriva cooker, didn't even have a HWADDR= entry. Shutdown to test, an the warning was gone. There might be another ingredient to this. As with all distros since I've had sbc adsl (pppoe), I've had to edit ifcfg-eth0 to, BOOTPROTO=none, from =dhcp, even tho this is a dynamic ip connection (1.5Mb/384kb). Otherwise on boot up, it hangs on eth0 till it times out (fails). Even tho eth0 is then workin properly after boot up. I've searched bugzilla an only found one unrelated HWADDR bug. So, shouldn't of kudzu taken care of the eth0 config edit ?, an do y'all think this should be reported (bugzilla) ? It's really a very minor thing, but could confuse an disturb newbies. TIA, sorry for being long winded, but I'm tryin to be complete -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas From nalin at redhat.com Fri Feb 17 15:40:06 2006 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:40:06 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 09:11:40PM -0500, Miles Lane wrote: > Will the screensavers in xscreensaver be ported to gnome-screensaver? They're not supposed to require porting, but gnome-screensaver requires a .desktop file to be present to describe each of the screensavers which it will use, and xscreensaver doesn't provide them. The %post and %trigger scripts in the gnome-screensaver package are supposed to create these .desktop files automatically. This didn't used to work perfectly, but it should be fixed as of 2.13.90-4, so if you're still seeing the problem with that version, we need to know. HTH, Nalin From wes.shull at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 17:10:55 2006 From: wes.shull at gmail.com (Wes Shull) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:10:55 -0700 Subject: Rawhide -- Cannot run amaroK (Bug #178262 -- libGL.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires) In-Reply-To: References: <1140167390.2980.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1140169526.2980.22.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: On 2/17/06, Miles Lane wrote: > Here are two Livna libraries that trigger the problem: > /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmpg123.so: cannot enable executable stack as > shared object requires: Permission denied > /usr/lib/xmms/Visualization/libbscope.so: cannot enable executable > stack as shared object requires: Permission denied It's not just the "2nd"/3rd party repos; I've been alpha testing the Linux Second Life client, and I have to chcon -t textrel_shlib_t and some execstack -c as well on their libs to get the thing to run. The execstack thing I can see being something that needs to be changed in their build process so the libs are flagged right, but what's the right way to handle setting SELinux file contexts when installing external programs? Is there some way they can/should be building these such that they don't need relocation? Are they going to have to provide a special install script that sets proper contexts on the libs at runtime? Or should they be using star instead of tar? (Does textrel_shlib_t even make sense universally in all SELinux setups?) How do you convince distributors of 3rd-party programs to take SELinux into account when it's still a tiny fraction of the (already tiny) Linux userbase? Unfortunately it's problems like these that are probably inhibiting the use of SELinux outside the server space most. I know I've been turning SELinux completely off since FC2 rawhide era, and only in the last month or so have been brave enough to try it, and it has not been fun. --wes From don_springall at hotmail.com Fri Feb 17 16:47:56 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:47:56 -0700 Subject: kernel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5.src.rpm Message-ID: I updated my udev bug again [Bug 176453] because my floppy dropped of the desktop and I am not seeing its discovery in dmesg. Good thing I have not used that sucker in over a year. From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 17:33:10 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:33:10 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> Message-ID: On 2/17/06, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 09:11:40PM -0500, Miles Lane wrote: > > Will the screensavers in xscreensaver be ported to gnome-screensaver? > > They're not supposed to require porting, but gnome-screensaver requires > a .desktop file to be present to describe each of the screensavers which > it will use, and xscreensaver doesn't provide them. > > The %post and %trigger scripts in the gnome-screensaver package are > supposed to create these .desktop files automatically. This didn't used > to work perfectly, but it should be fixed as of 2.13.90-4, so if you're > still seeing the problem with that version, we need to know. Okay, I removed gnome-screensaver and all the xscreensaver packages and reinstalled them (xscreensaver-base didn't get installed). Now I see the xscreensaver savers listed in the gnome-screensaver configuration dialog. A problem I have with gnome-screensaver is that I cannot configure the xscreensaver savers. For example, I cannot tell any of the savers that use images from the hard drive where to find the images. I cannot specify the Glidescope tube size, speed, and movement settings. I can't tell the Interaggregate or Substrate savers how many seeds to use, etc. The rendering of the Superquadratics saver is all messed up. Hidden sides are sometimes being rendered in front, munging the forms. This problem is also showing up with Polyhedra, Menger, Lament, Juggler3D, Gears, GLHanoi, Flying Toasters, FlipFlop, Cube 21, etc. I only see "4D Hypertorus" (which appears to map to the xscreensaver ribbon hypertorus saver. I prefer the solid (transparent) hypertorus, but cannot find it in the savers list. Another issue is that "popsquares" saver isn't working at all. Oddly, there is also a "Pop art squares" saver that does work. The "popsquares" entry is at the bottom of the savers list. From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 17:41:58 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:41:58 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> Message-ID: One more issue is that the gnome-screensaver "fade out" when it starts to display a screensaver takes way too long. I think the fade should last, at most, about four seconds. Right now, it seems to take about ten seconds to fade out before starting to display the screensaver. Thanks, Miles From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 17:43:37 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:43:37 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> On 2/17/06, Miles Lane wrote: > A problem I have with gnome-screensaver is that I cannot configure the > xscreensaver savers. This is a delibrate choice made in how the screensavers are presented as .desktop files. The explanation for this decision is made in he upstream FAQ: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScreensaver_2fFrequentlyAskedQuestions -jef From n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 17:56:23 2006 From: n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com (n0dalus) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 04:26:23 +1030 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6280325c0602170956y18a298cdh52b72975c25cda1c@mail.gmail.com> On 2/18/06, Miles Lane wrote: > One more issue is that the gnome-screensaver "fade out" when it starts > to display a screensaver takes way too long. I think the fade should last, > at most, about four seconds. Right now, it seems to take about ten > seconds to fade out before starting to display the screensaver. > I think this is to give a grace period so you can notice the screensaver activating and do something before the screen gets locked. I don't think the current way of doing it is very good. Instead, the screensaver should start normally, without a long fade in, but extend the grace period into the running of the screensaver a bit. IMO, the biggest problem with gnome-screensaver is that fullscreen apps are used to xscreensaver and this means that games and movie players won't be able to stop the screensaver from starting. The gnome-screensaver FAQ mentions that there is a way to stop the screensaver using dbus (which totem is using), but it may be some time before that makes it into other applications (if ever). It would be great if gnome-screensaver could detect what would normally be a 'stop screensaver' request for xscreensaver and act on it appropriately. n0dalus. From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 18:01:13 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:01:13 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/17/06, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/17/06, Miles Lane wrote: > > A problem I have with gnome-screensaver is that I cannot configure the > > xscreensaver savers. > > This is a delibrate choice made in how the screensavers are presented > as .desktop files. The explanation for this decision is made in he > upstream FAQ: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScreensaver_2fFrequentlyAskedQuestions Thanks Jeff. A quote from that page: ---------- Why doesn't the screensaver preferences tool allow me to change the settings for the theme? We are trying to take a different approach. We would prefer for the themes to simply work. [...] There are a few reasons for this approach. One of them is to simplify the UI and make it easier for the user. Another reason is so that system administrators can more easily control (or lock down) the settings. ---------- Personally, I think the Gnome developers' know-it-all attitude is stupid and offensive. Dang it! They take their bloody "present no options to the users" too far! Idiots! I keep wanting Gnome to be great, but this Ximian attitude and design approach keeps fouling the desktop experience. ARGH! They are _breaking_ screensavers. Miles From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 18:08:08 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:08:08 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <6280325c0602170956y18a298cdh52b72975c25cda1c@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <6280325c0602170956y18a298cdh52b72975c25cda1c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/17/06, n0dalus wrote: > On 2/18/06, Miles Lane wrote: > > One more issue is that the gnome-screensaver "fade out" when it starts > > to display a screensaver takes way too long. I think the fade should last, > > at most, about four seconds. Right now, it seems to take about ten > > seconds to fade out before starting to display the screensaver. > > I think this is to give a grace period so you can notice the > screensaver activating and do something before the screen gets locked. > I don't think the current way of doing it is very good. Instead, the > screensaver should start normally, without a long fade in, but extend > the grace period into the running of the screensaver a bit. Wow, that would be a huge improvement! Maybe some Gnome folks at Redhat could submit this change or maintain a patch for it? If I am not mistaken, the vast majority of key Gnome development people still work for Ximian/Novell, so I don't know how practical this could be. Miles From mclasen at redhat.com Fri Feb 17 18:16:05 2006 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:16:05 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <6280325c0602170956y18a298cdh52b72975c25cda1c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140200166.14559.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 13:08 -0500, Miles Lane wrote: > On 2/17/06, n0dalus wrote: > > On 2/18/06, Miles Lane wrote: > > > One more issue is that the gnome-screensaver "fade out" when it starts > > > to display a screensaver takes way too long. I think the fade should last, > > > at most, about four seconds. Right now, it seems to take about ten > > > seconds to fade out before starting to display the screensaver. > > > > I think this is to give a grace period so you can notice the > > screensaver activating and do something before the screen gets locked. > > I don't think the current way of doing it is very good. Instead, the > > screensaver should start normally, without a long fade in, but extend > > the grace period into the running of the screensaver a bit. > > Wow, that would be a huge improvement! Maybe some Gnome folks > at Redhat could submit this change or maintain a patch for it? > If I am not mistaken, the vast majority of key Gnome development > people still work for Ximian/Novell, so I don't know how practical > this could be. > I'm sure interesting proposals like this will be most welcome on screensaver-list at gnome.org Matthias From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 18:22:38 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:22:38 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602171022h6a4df2cdw29be2e150974f164@mail.gmail.com> On 2/17/06, Miles Lane wrote: > Personally, I think the Gnome developers' know-it-all attitude is > stupid and offensive. Dang it! They take their bloody "present no > options to the users" too far! Idiots! Blatant name calling doesn't make for a constructive debate. I humbly suggest you make an effort to remove the emtionally loaded language when you are trying to make a point. If you want to drag this discussion down into the realm of overly generalized name-calling to a community of people, I'll be more than happy to do this with you in private conversation. Choosing to use this sort of emtional outburt in a public discussion is not helpful and only points out that you are also capable of "going to far" with your overreaching assumption making. I'm not fond of blatant hypocrisy, so please try to keep your over-reaching assumption making about the entire gnome development community out of this discussion. If you have a problem with the decision making, read up on previous discussion about gnome-screesaver and make rational arguments to the upstream developers. There maybe a way forward to change how this works by incorporated per-user configs into GConf for individual screensavers and still have site wide policy without disrupting UI. But you'll have to care enough about the issue to keep your emtions in check and handle yourself maturely in the discussion. Calling the people you are trying to convince to change their minds idiots has a particularly low probability of success especially if you don't have an established working relationship with them as peers. -jef From n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 18:44:28 2006 From: n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com (n0dalus) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 05:14:28 +1030 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> On 2/18/06, Miles Lane wrote: > > A quote from that page: > ---------- > Why doesn't the screensaver preferences tool allow me to change the > settings for the theme? > We are trying to take a different approach. We would prefer for the > themes to simply work. [...] > There are a few reasons for this approach. One of them is to simplify > the UI and make it easier for the user. Another reason is so that > system administrators can more easily control (or lock down) the > settings. > ---------- > > Personally, I think the Gnome developers' know-it-all attitude is > stupid and offensive. Dang it! They take their bloody "present no > options to the users" too far! Idiots! > I'm sure these particular Gnome developers mean well, and I don't see the point in getting angry at them. I agree that neither of the reasons they list are very good. Having one extra button to open a second dialogue hardly clutters the UI, and makes it no harder for the user. To let system admins lock down settings, they should simply provide a "Don't show or let users open advanced controls." key. I think it's still a good concept to provide multiple variations of some of the screensavers in the list, but that's not mutually exclusive to allowing advanced controls. If someone presents a well-formed and polite request for them to allow advanced settings, I think we could get further in resolving this issue. n0dalus. From don_springall at hotmail.com Fri Feb 17 18:12:34 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:12:34 -0700 Subject: debuginfo Message-ID: I thought there used to be a bunch of debuginfo type files in rawhide. I do not see any in there today. Is this a change in the way the traceback is going to work or did I miss an email ? Are we supposed to get rid of the ones installed currently such as gnome-power-manager-debuginfo-2.13.5.0.20060207-2 ? From icon at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 17 19:15:50 2006 From: icon at fedoraproject.org (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:15:50 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F620E6.405@fedoraproject.org> Miles Lane wrote: > Personally, I think the Gnome developers' know-it-all attitude is > stupid and offensive. Dang it! They take their bloody "present no > options to the users" too far! Idiots! It's a frickin' screensaver, dude. It saves old CRTs from pixel burn-in. Surely there are worthier issues to get upset about? No? -- Konstantin Ryabitsev McGill University WSG Mal: "Can I come in?" Inara: "No." Mal: "See, that's why I usually don't ask." --Episode #6, "Our Mrs Reynolds" From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 19:24:39 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:24:39 -0800 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/17/06, n0dalus wrote: [...] > I'm sure these particular Gnome developers mean well, and I don't see > the point in getting angry at them. Well, all the screensavers that take images from a user specified directory are broken by the current system, afaict. > I agree that neither of the reasons they list are very good. Having > one extra button to open a second dialogue hardly clutters the UI, and > makes it no harder for the user. To let system admins lock down > settings, they should simply provide a "Don't show or let users open > advanced controls." key. I think it's still a good concept to provide > multiple variations of some of the screensavers in the list, but > that's not mutually exclusive to allowing advanced controls. Yes, I agree. What I find upsetting is that this is such an obvious solution to many usability issues in Gnome and yet this approach is not getting implemented. Much of my frustration would vanish if I saw signs that this reasonable attitude to empowering users was adopted. If you are capable of making this case and triggering a shift, you will have my profound gratitude. Here a similar situation: Gnome has given us "Spatial" browsing versus Hierarchical file browsing. Why can't I make all my folder icons default to "Browse Hierarchically?" The functionality is there, but only if I right-click on a folder icon and select "Browse Folder." This is buried functionality and clunky UI. I like the "Spatial" UI for its presentation of media files and actions, but it breaks down for file browsing. I really dislike cluttering my desktop with folder windows. Yes, I know that there are avid fans of the "Spatial" UI, but please let me choose defaulting to hierarchical directory browsing. Another example is the current system of theming the Gnome desktop. If you look at the available themes, there are loads of themes that are exactly the same, but have different color schemes. I remember when this was getting implemented. I kept suggesting that the developers allow users to simply colorize the themes. This was rejected because it would allow newbies to create color schemes that broke the usability (unreadable text, etc). I did my best to explain that there were ways around these problems, but my arguments were rejected. Now I will have to appeal to some developer to create my favorite screensaver settings and add it to the list. I have to appeal to a developer to give me the theme settings I want. How usable it that? > If someone presents a well-formed and polite request for them to allow > advanced settings, I think we could get further in resolving this > issue. I have tried conversing with the developers in bug reports at Gnome.org, in e-mail and forums in years past. At one time I was one of the most prolific reporters of bugs for Gnome (~450 for Evolution, alone, and Ximian gave me a PalmPilot VII as a gift). I have not been some sort of screaming loony. When the "simplify the UI at all costs" mania hit, and after many fruitless attempts to get them to consider preserving options for users, I gave up and went to using KDE for a couple of years. Miles From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 19:34:10 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:34:10 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602171134m140fc15l713768db709f6660@mail.gmail.com> On 2/17/06, n0dalus wrote: > I agree that neither of the reasons they list are very good. Having > one extra button to open a second dialogue hardly clutters the UI, and > makes it no harder for the user. To let system admins lock down > settings, they should simply provide a "Don't show or let users open > advanced controls." key. UI issues aside..you'd have to store the per-user configs somewhere... that means making room in GConf for per-xscreensaver-hack configuration keys. Which means creating schema for each and every xscreensaver-hack which could take per-user configs as well as keys which can be applied across all screensaver-hacks on a per-user basis. So that it could be locked down at a site policy level. -jef From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 19:41:43 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:41:43 -0800 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602171022h6a4df2cdw29be2e150974f164@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910602171022h6a4df2cdw29be2e150974f164@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/17/06, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/17/06, Miles Lane wrote: > > Personally, I think the Gnome developers' know-it-all attitude is > > stupid and offensive. Dang it! They take their bloody "present no > > options to the users" too far! Idiots! > > Blatant name calling doesn't make for a constructive debate. > I humbly suggest you make an effort to remove the emtionally loaded > language when you are trying to make a point. If you want to drag this > discussion down into the realm of overly generalized name-calling to a > community of people, I'll be more than happy to do this with you in > private conversation. > > Choosing to use this sort of emtional outburt in a public discussion > is not helpful and only points out that you are also capable of "going > to far" with your overreaching assumption making. I'm not fond of > blatant hypocrisy, so please try to keep your over-reaching assumption > making about the entire gnome development community out of this > discussion. > > If you have a problem with the decision making, read up on previous > discussion about gnome-screesaver and make rational arguments to the > upstream developers. There maybe a way forward to change how this > works by incorporated per-user configs into GConf for individual > screensavers and still have site wide policy without disrupting UI. > But you'll have to care enough about the issue to keep your emtions in > check and handle yourself maturely in the discussion. Calling the > people you are trying to convince to change their minds idiots has a > particularly low probability of success especially if you don't have > an established working relationship with them as peers. I used to have an established working relationship with them. Then Ximian got the "simplified UI" bug and all my pleas and reasoned arguments were discarded. Now this issue of user options is a bit of an open wound for me. I have volunteered _years_ to Linux development. I wouldn't be so frustrated if this general issue of empowering Gnome users were resolved. It seems it will take someone else to cause a shift in the "oversimplified UI" policy, because I have no desire to wade into Gnome bugzilla again and be blown off by Jeff Waugh and others. The great thing about submitting bugs to the Evolution project was that a lot of them got addressed in the early days. I had a huge positive influence back then. Slowly, that changed and my bug reports were left to languish before being closed in great waves. I know Luis Villa (once Gnome Bugzilla/Test dude) and we worked together well for a while. Eventually, important issues I raised (e.g. the lameness of Yelp) were ignored so often I just couldn't continue. Sad, Miles From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 19:46:09 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:46:09 -0800 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602171134m140fc15l713768db709f6660@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910602171134m140fc15l713768db709f6660@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/17/06, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/17/06, n0dalus wrote: > > I agree that neither of the reasons they list are very good. Having > > one extra button to open a second dialogue hardly clutters the UI, and > > makes it no harder for the user. To let system admins lock down > > settings, they should simply provide a "Don't show or let users open > > advanced controls." key. > > UI issues aside..you'd have to store the per-user configs somewhere... > that means making room in GConf for per-xscreensaver-hack > configuration keys. Which means creating schema for each and every > xscreensaver-hack which could take per-user configs as well as keys > which can be applied across all screensaver-hacks on a per-user basis. > So that it could be locked down at a site policy level. So, do you know who to contact to make this happen? Do you think this would be considered? Who would have to be convinced? Miles From miles.lane at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 19:51:35 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:51:35 -0800 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <43F620E6.405@fedoraproject.org> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <43F620E6.405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 2/17/06, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > Miles Lane wrote: > > Personally, I think the Gnome developers' know-it-all attitude is > > stupid and offensive. Dang it! They take their bloody "present no > > options to the users" too far! Idiots! > > It's a frickin' screensaver, dude. It saves old CRTs from pixel burn-in. > > Surely there are worthier issues to get upset about? No? It's a bigger issue of empowering users. It is a pattern of limiting user control in favor of developer control. It is the dumbing down of the UI to prevent users "running with scissors." Guess what, most Linux users know how to use scissors safely. Sure, I want Linux to succeed in the world of computer Newbies, but just give me the option to enable more advanced settings and I will be perfectly happy. Not that it really matters for the sake of argument, but Linus Torvalds has similar concerns about Gnome. He a pretty reasonable guy, fwiw. Miles From mclasen at redhat.com Fri Feb 17 19:56:41 2006 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:56:41 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910602171134m140fc15l713768db709f6660@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140206201.16711.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 11:46 -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > On 2/17/06, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On 2/17/06, n0dalus wrote: > > > I agree that neither of the reasons they list are very good. Having > > > one extra button to open a second dialogue hardly clutters the UI, and > > > makes it no harder for the user. To let system admins lock down > > > settings, they should simply provide a "Don't show or let users open > > > advanced controls." key. > > > > UI issues aside..you'd have to store the per-user configs somewhere... > > that means making room in GConf for per-xscreensaver-hack > > configuration keys. Which means creating schema for each and every > > xscreensaver-hack which could take per-user configs as well as keys > > which can be applied across all screensaver-hacks on a per-user basis. > > So that it could be locked down at a site policy level. > > So, do you know who to contact to make this happen? Do you think this > would be considered? Who would have to be convinced? > As mentioned already, screensaver-list at gnome.org is the list to talk to. The only way to know if your ideas will be considered is to propose them there. Matthias From n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 20:03:25 2006 From: n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com (n0dalus) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:33:25 +1030 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602171134m140fc15l713768db709f6660@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910602171134m140fc15l713768db709f6660@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6280325c0602171203l534015fcg1fdf2068d9125bc5@mail.gmail.com> On 2/18/06, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > UI issues aside..you'd have to store the per-user configs somewhere... > that means making room in GConf for per-xscreensaver-hack > configuration keys. Which means creating schema for each and every > xscreensaver-hack which could take per-user configs as well as keys > which can be applied across all screensaver-hacks on a per-user basis. > So that it could be locked down at a site policy level. > I think you are making it sound like a bigger problem than it really is. The way xscreensaver is set up means that only one key would need to be saved per custom screensaver (that is, a string of command line arguments which get passed to the screensaver.) You would not need to create schema for each and every "hack". What I proposed is a global 'disable_all_advanced_config' key that would apply to all screensavers. If that doesn't provide enough lock-down capability, then I suppose a 'disable_advanced_config' key per screensaver (which is per .desktop file I suppose) could be used -- I still don't think this is unreasonably difficult to implement. n0dalus. From icon at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 17 20:05:29 2006 From: icon at fedoraproject.org (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:05:29 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <43F620E6.405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43F62C89.7020603@fedoraproject.org> Miles Lane wrote: > It's a bigger issue of empowering users. It is a pattern of limiting > user control in favor of developer control. It is the dumbing down > of the UI to prevent users "running with scissors." Guess what, > most Linux users know how to use scissors safely. Sure, I want > Linux to succeed in the world of computer Newbies, but just give > me the option to enable more advanced settings and I will be > perfectly happy. It's too bad that GNOME is the only desktop environment out there, and thus must suit everyone. That's exactly the reason why they have been slapped with monopoly charges -- for repeatedly taking away choice from their users who have no alternatives to turn to. At least they have been good about full refunds, otherwise it would be nothing short of racketeering. > Not that it really matters for the sake of argument, but Linus Torvalds > has similar concerns about Gnome. He a pretty reasonable guy, fwiw. Linus is an excellent kernel developer, but not god. He's not even pope. His opinions on things other than kernel development, while welcomed, carry exactly as much weight as anyone else's. -- Konstantin Ryabitsev McGill University WSG Mal: "Can I come in?" Inara: "No." Mal: "See, that's why I usually don't ask." --Episode #6, "Our Mrs Reynolds" From don_springall at hotmail.com Fri Feb 17 19:19:58 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:19:58 -0700 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602171022h6a4df2cdw29be2e150974f164@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >From: "Jeff Spaleta" >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > >Subject: Re: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver >Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:22:38 -0500 > >On 2/17/06, Miles Lane wrote: > > Personally, I think the Gnome developers' know-it-all attitude is > > stupid and offensive. Dang it! They take their bloody "present no > > options to the users" too far! Idiots! > I would not label the Gnome developers as idiots as Linus Torvalds did over the gnome print issue but I do find it frustrating at times that their "ease of use" and it "just works" ideas to be in conflict with a lack of user control. For example I liked playing with the xmatrix controls just to see what they did. Even if that was a bad idea because xmatrix seems to chew up a lot of cpu and battery life and at one time did nasty things to memory. I usually just leave a blank screen as a screensaver most of the time to save battery but it is fun to play sometimes while you are waiting for a download to finish. I guess thats why there will probally never be just one desktop. Some like control, some like no controls. Luckily we have lots of choices. Lets start a flame war over something more interesting. How about we start one on ndiswrapper. Boy we should nuke those 8k stack options and tell windows driver fanboys to go jump in a lake. 4k stacks are so much better for performance. There, I feel much better now ! From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Fri Feb 17 20:31:24 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:31:24 +0100 Subject: Rawhide -- Cannot run amaroK (Bug #178262 -- libGL.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires) In-Reply-To: References: <1140167390.2980.8.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1140169526.2980.22.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <1140208285.2980.65.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 10:10 -0700, Wes Shull wrote: > > > The execstack thing I can see being something that needs to be changed > in their build process so the libs are flagged right no it means their code need fixing to just work right automatically. It's Not That Hard(tm). There are basically 2 sources of such markings that are common 1) nested C functions 2) assembly files 1) needs a change in the code to make the code non-nested; nested functions are a gcc-only extension as well so are not a good idea in general 2) needs two simple lines added to the assembly file: .section .note.GNU-stack, "", @progbits .previous > , but what's the > right way to handle setting SELinux file contexts when installing > external programs? textrels are a serious build breakage. on x86 glibc sort of works around it, but it's still very bad. SELinux now disallows the workaround basically. It's almost always either a missing -fPIC on the compile line, not making the library position independent (which they HAVE to be), or using another .a library which isn't -fPIC compiled, with the same effect. on x86, glibc is nice enough to mess with the code to make it relocatable anyway sort of, but it's evil, ugly, fragile and just bad. > textrel_shlib_t even make sense universally in all SELinux setups?) no it means the library is misbuilt badly and needs fixing ;( labeling is just a "I mark this as known broken, please disable security checks for this" workaround, not a fix. From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 21:29:42 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:29:42 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <6280325c0602171203l534015fcg1fdf2068d9125bc5@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910602171134m140fc15l713768db709f6660@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171203l534015fcg1fdf2068d9125bc5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602171329p61d123eeq9aa37b2cb436bf6c@mail.gmail.com> On 2/17/06, n0dalus wrote: > I think you are making it sound like a bigger problem than it really is. I think you may be right.. but not in the way you describe it. Since gnome-screensaver uses .desktop files to define items in the list... the same mechanism that users can use to edit menu items on a per-user basis could be reused as the UI to edit screensaver .desktop files to change the arguments. Now whether or not gnome upstream has a mature way for user to edit things like menu items is a completely different can of worms. But since gnome-screensaver is re-using the .desktop file concept it should be the same sort of editting UI which is exposed for menu editting, if menu editting is ever exposed. -jef From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 17 22:21:24 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:21:24 +0100 Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? In-Reply-To: <20060217114512.43638.qmail@web26001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <43F5B23F.4030301@gmx.net> <20060217114512.43638.qmail@web26001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0602171421m1c36a16au42519add0228080a@mail.gmail.com> I prefer anjuta too. should we call for a maintainer in fedoranews.org ? -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 17 22:56:57 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:56:57 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060217 changes In-Reply-To: <200602170819.k1H8JI1T011188@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602170819.k1H8JI1T011188@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0602171456r7e56b128x66b7271a71c07ff7@mail.gmail.com> On 2/17/06, Build System wrote: > > > > Updated Packages: > > xorg-x11-drivers-7.0-2 > ---------------------- > * Thu Feb 16 2006 Bill Nottingham - 7.0-2 > - uncomment (empty) file list so binary RPMs are built > > * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 7.0-1.1 > - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) > > * Thu Feb 09 2006 Mike Harris 7.0-1 > - Bumped version to 7.0-1 > - Updated the driver list to match current rawhide, X11R7.0 > > > > > Broken deps for ia64 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs > vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 > vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) > > > > Broken deps for ppc > ---------------------------------------------------------- > gulm-devel - 1.0.0-2.ppc requires gulm = 0:1.0.0-2 > magma-plugins - 1.0.3-1.FC5.ppc requires libgulm.so.1 > magma-plugins - 1.0.3-1.FC5.ppc requires libdlm_lt.so.1 > > > > Broken deps for ppc64 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi > gulm-devel - 1.0.0-2.ppc64 requires gulm = 0:1.0.0-2 > magma-plugins - 1.0.3-1.FC5.ppc64 requires libdlm_lt.so.1()(64bit) > magma-plugins - 1.0.3-1.FC5.ppc64 requires libgulm.so.1()(64bit) > vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 > vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) > > > > Broken deps for s390 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 > rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 > rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 > > > > Broken deps for s390x > ---------------------------------------------------------- > rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) > rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) > rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) since days i was looking forward to post my dependencies: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2-2.4.so.0 is needed by package wxPythonGTK2 Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2-2.4.so.0(WXGTK2_2.4) is needed by package wxPythonGTK2 Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2_gl-2.4.so.0(WXGTK2_2.4) is needed by package wxPythonGTK2 Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2_gl-2.4.so.0 is needed by package wxPythonGTK2 with wxGTK-gl-2.6.2-4.fc5 compat-wxGTK2-gl-2.4.2-16.fc5 wxGTK-devel-2.6.2-4.fc5 compat-wxGTK-common-2.4.2-16.fc5 compat-wxGTK2-2.4.2-16.fc5 wxGTK-2.6.2-4.fc5 -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Feb 17 23:06:48 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:06:48 +0000 Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0602171421m1c36a16au42519add0228080a@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5B23F.4030301@gmx.net> <20060217114512.43638.qmail@web26001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <13dbfe4f0602171421m1c36a16au42519add0228080a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140217608.32716.5.camel@T7.Linux> Hi, > I prefer anjuta too. > should we call for a maintainer in fedoranews.org ? If no-one calls it by tomorrow night, I'll take it on. TTFN Paul -- "Tr?um's nicht, Lebe schon" - Dr. Frankenfurter, Rocky Horror Show From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 17 23:29:20 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 00:29:20 +0100 Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530602090640t312aa975y78a170c4b3e4c362@mail.gmail.com> References: <43EB2B39.1050106@rogers.com> <1139486626.4112.34.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <4c4ba1530602090640t312aa975y78a170c4b3e4c362@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0602171529k4e2fe4a9ja8fc8eb479d7fbd2@mail.gmail.com> On 2/9/06, Tom London wrote: > There is a bug in the vmware-config.pl script that is exposed by > changes to the newer kernel headers. > > I've reported this to vmware: > http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=31877&tstart=0 > > Here is the patch described there: > > --- vmware-config.pl.old 2005-12-15 21:55:24.000000000 -0800 > +++ vmware-config.pl 2006-02-04 16:53:06.000000000 -0800 > @@ -1969,8 +1969,8 @@ > . ' -E - | ' . shell_string($gHelper{'grep'}) . ' ' > . shell_string($pattern)); > chomp($header_page_offset); > - $header_page_offset =~ s/^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,}).*$/$1/; > - if ($header_page_offset =~ /[0-9a-fA-F]{8,}/) { > + if ($header_page_offset =~ /^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,})/) { > + $header_page_offset = $1; > # We found a valid page offset > if (defined($gSystem{'page_offset'}) and > not (lc($header_page_offset) eq lc($gSystem{'page_offset'}))) { > I do have the same thing: In file included from :2: /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1948_FC5/build/include/asm/page.h:71:23: error: mach_page.h: No such file or directory What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1948_FC5/build/include] I did patch the vmware-config.pl. But still the same issue. Ive attached my patch to this mail. Is there something wrong with it? > BTW, if you have not already done so, you may also need to make minor > changes in the makefiles that get run by vmware-config.pl. Described > in vmware discussion group here: > > http://www.vmware.com/community/message.jspa?messageID=337443#337443 > > [You'll know you'll need to do this if vmware-config.pl compiles fail....] > didn't help neither -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 17 23:30:41 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 00:30:41 +0100 Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0602171529k4e2fe4a9ja8fc8eb479d7fbd2@mail.gmail.com> References: <43EB2B39.1050106@rogers.com> <1139486626.4112.34.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <4c4ba1530602090640t312aa975y78a170c4b3e4c362@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0602171529k4e2fe4a9ja8fc8eb479d7fbd2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0602171530s7b9c7f35y6d13b041ed15e6be@mail.gmail.com> The patch -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: vm-ware-config.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 657 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Fri Feb 17 23:31:42 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:31:42 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F65CDE.7050905@insight.rr.com> n0dalus wrote: > On 2/18/06, Miles Lane wrote: >> A quote from that page: >> ---------- >> Why doesn't the screensaver preferences tool allow me to change the >> settings for the theme? That is why I do not use it. You can choose a blank screen, an individual screensaver or all the screensavers. You cannot adjust the source for the text that some screensavers use. There are no controls. Let's hope that GNOME does not decide to make breaks. Their attitude will be, "You don't need as brake pedal, you will eventually stop without one. We want to make things easier for the user and free up their foot to tap to the music." >> We are trying to take a different approach. We would prefer for the >> themes to simply work. [...] I would rather stop before I hit the car in front of me, a tree, or brick wall. Put back the brake pedal! >> There are a few reasons for this approach. One of them is to simplify >> the UI and make it easier for the user. Not even bothering to turn on the computer at all is simpler. Can we expect gnome-poweroff-forever? Another reason is so that >> system administrators can more easily control (or lock down) the >> settings. >> ---------- What about gnome-admin-xscreensavers? If I am admin, I don't want to disable that which I enjoy to use. With xscreensaver-base only, you get a blank screensaver. What more would an administrator for other people desire than that. Would not even developing gnome-screensaver (Made for use on many desktops, Why gnome-screensaver name?) >> >> Personally, I think the Gnome developers' know-it-all attitude is >> stupid and offensive. Dang it! They take their bloody "present no >> options to the users" too far! Idiots! It is downright insane for developers to use this as a rational reason. If it is not very customizable by the user, it is a bad approach. gnome-word is coming out. You can launch it, but it will choose the font that you want to use. It is just that easy. The program will even pick the proper picture that you want and the exactly correct font color and background. In other words, Gnome developer attitude is plain hog slop. The only thing everything that the hog needed was removed to make it easier on the pig. If the pig dies because gnome thought that it would be best for the pig to not be nourished. It is best for the pig after all. >> > > I'm sure these particular Gnome developers mean well, and I don't see > the point in getting angry at them. > > I agree that neither of the reasons they list are very good. Having > one extra button to open a second dialogue hardly clutters the UI, and > makes it no harder for the user. To let system admins lock down > settings, they should simply provide a "Don't show or let users open > advanced controls." key. I think it's still a good concept to provide > multiple variations of some of the screensavers in the list, but > that's not mutually exclusive to allowing advanced controls. > > If someone presents a well-formed and polite request for them to allow > advanced settings, I think we could get further in resolving this > issue. A docile approach in bugzilla usually amounts to a bug closed. We like it that way. I filed a bug report for nautilus and it was closed with a similar reason. Jim > > n0dalus. > -- When you say 'I wrote a program that crashed Windows', people just stare at you blankly and say 'Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*'. -- Linus Torvalds From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Feb 17 23:30:58 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:30:58 +0000 Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? In-Reply-To: <1140217608.32716.5.camel@T7.Linux> References: <43F5B23F.4030301@gmx.net> <20060217114512.43638.qmail@web26001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <13dbfe4f0602171421m1c36a16au42519add0228080a@mail.gmail.com> <1140217608.32716.5.camel@T7.Linux> Message-ID: <1140219059.32716.16.camel@T7.Linux> Hi, > > I prefer anjuta too. > > should we call for a maintainer in fedoranews.org ? > > If no-one calls it by tomorrow night, I'll take it on. Hmmm, 1.2.4 is the latest, so it'll need bumping. That said, Anjuta 2 is pretty damned cool! TTFN Paul -- "Tr?um's nicht, Lebe schon" - Dr. Frankenfurter, Rocky Horror Show From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Fri Feb 17 23:58:12 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:58:12 -0500 Subject: Why drop all the control from user? Message-ID: <43F66314.9060706@insight.rr.com> > As mentioned already, screensaver-list at gnome.org is the list to talk to. > The only way to know if your ideas will be considered is to propose them > there. > > Matthias OK! Some of us like xscreensaver a lot better than gnome-screensaver. Can you concentrate on making life simpler for users on another project instead? Please read thread below: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg01191.html Thanks! Jim From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 00:34:45 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:34:45 -0600 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602171634x44b8072dh350ea94ecda6cbb0@mail.gmail.com> On 2/17/06, Miles Lane wrote: > On 2/17/06, n0dalus wrote: [snip] > > I agree that neither of the reasons they list are very good. Having > > one extra button to open a second dialogue hardly clutters the UI, and > > makes it no harder for the user. To let system admins lock down > > settings, they should simply provide a "Don't show or let users open > > advanced controls." key. I think it's still a good concept to provide > > multiple variations of some of the screensavers in the list, but > > that's not mutually exclusive to allowing advanced controls. > > Yes, I agree. What I find upsetting is that this is such an > obvious solution to many usability issues in Gnome and yet > this approach is not getting implemented. Much of my > frustration would vanish if I saw signs that this reasonable > attitude to empowering users was adopted. If you are > capable of making this case and triggering a shift, you will > have my profound gratitude. I would have to agree with you that the movement of Gnome away from user configurability is rather disappointing. Surely there is some balance to be reached between configurability and not complicating things. Many things such as the screensaver issues seem to be going toward the extreme of making configurability very difficult or impossible. > Here a similar situation: > Gnome has given us "Spatial" browsing versus Hierarchical file > browsing. Why can't I make all my folder icons default to > "Browse Hierarchically?" The functionality is there, but only > if I right-click on a folder icon and select "Browse Folder." > This is buried functionality and clunky UI. > I like the "Spatial" UI for its presentation of media files and > actions, but it breaks down for file browsing. I really dislike > cluttering my desktop with folder windows. > > Yes, I know that there are avid fans of the "Spatial" UI, > but please let me choose defaulting to hierarchical directory > browsing. I'm afraid you chose a bad example here; you can configure that :-) (thankfully). I cannot stand the spacial view in Nautilus either. Open up a Nautilus window, Edit -> Preferences -> Behavior[tab] -> Always open in browser windows[checkbox]. Jonathan From miles.lane at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 02:55:17 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:55:17 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602171634x44b8072dh350ea94ecda6cbb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> <8767947e0602171634x44b8072dh350ea94ecda6cbb0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/17/06, Jonathan Berry wrote: [...] > I'm afraid you chose a bad example here; you can configure that :-) > (thankfully). I cannot stand the spacial view in Nautilus either. > Open up a Nautilus window, Edit -> Preferences -> Behavior[tab] -> > Always open in browser windows[checkbox]. Well, no regrets there. If I hadn't used that example, I wouldn't have learned about this. Yea! Thanks, Miles From gnomeuser at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 06:50:57 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 07:50:57 +0100 Subject: Why drop all the control from user? In-Reply-To: <43F66314.9060706@insight.rr.com> References: <43F66314.9060706@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1140245457.2244.4.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> fre, 17 02 2006 kl. 18:58 -0500, skrev Jim Cornette: > > As mentioned already, screensaver-list at gnome.org is the list to talk to. > > The only way to know if your ideas will be considered is to propose them > > there. > > > > Matthias > > OK! > > Some of us like xscreensaver a lot better than gnome-screensaver. Can > you concentrate on making life simpler for users on another project instead? > > Please read thread below: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg01191.html And some of us enjoy the more integrated and featureful approach taken by the gnome-screensaver project. your point is? - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From miles.lane at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 07:15:36 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 02:15:36 -0500 Subject: Why drop all the control from user? In-Reply-To: <1140245457.2244.4.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <43F66314.9060706@insight.rr.com> <1140245457.2244.4.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: It is time to put this thread to rest. n0dalus is going to write up a proposal for implementing a slight change to the UI and functionality that would enable users to have more control over the xscreensaver hacks that appear in gnome-screensaver. Once n0dalus has done so, I will do my best to help present the ideas on screensaver-list at gnome.org. My preference would be to have n0dalus, or another person who understands Gnome development, present the ideas. Since, there will likely need to be some debate on the technical aspects of implementation. If anyone wants to keep debating about the screensaver, please stop CCing the Fedora list and discuss on the Gnome list. Miles On 2/18/06, David Nielsen wrote: > fre, 17 02 2006 kl. 18:58 -0500, skrev Jim Cornette: > > > As mentioned already, screensaver-list at gnome.org is the list to talk to. > > > The only way to know if your ideas will be considered is to propose them > > > there. > > > > > > Matthias > > > > OK! > > > > Some of us like xscreensaver a lot better than gnome-screensaver. Can > > you concentrate on making life simpler for users on another project instead? > > > > Please read thread below: > > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg01191.html > > And some of us enjoy the more integrated and featureful approach taken > by the gnome-screensaver project. > > your point is? > > - David > -- > Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: > www.lovesunix.net/blog > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From netwiz at crc.id.au Sat Feb 18 07:38:23 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:38:23 +1100 Subject: Custom patches for a kernel build? Message-ID: <1511E033-93B4-4C5D-BD90-E45AE1D12E6E@crc.id.au> Hi all, This is probably a fairly simple question, but it's not something I've had to tackle before. I'm playing with home automation, and I'm trying to get the ADUtux driver working - which means I need to compile a kernel module. I've put up a howto on this at: http://www.crc.id.au/ontrak-adu-218- on-linux/ When I wrote this however, I used the kernel source from a .tar.bz2 file - not using an RPM as source. Is there a way I can rebuild a kernel from source, and still use said patches? -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From buildsys at redhat.com Sat Feb 18 08:22:47 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 03:22:47 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060218 changes Message-ID: <200602180822.k1I8Mlie000454@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: (none) Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) From caillon at redhat.com Sat Feb 18 09:09:21 2006 From: caillon at redhat.com (Christopher Aillon) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 04:09:21 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060217 changes In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0602171456r7e56b128x66b7271a71c07ff7@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602170819.k1H8JI1T011188@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0602171456r7e56b128x66b7271a71c07ff7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F6E441.3080305@redhat.com> On 02/17/2006 05:56 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > since days i was looking forward to post my dependencies: > > Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2-2.4.so.0 is needed by package wxPythonGTK2 > Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2-2.4.so.0(WXGTK2_2.4) is needed by > package wxPythonGTK2 > Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2_gl-2.4.so.0(WXGTK2_2.4) is needed by > package wxPythonGTK2 > Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2_gl-2.4.so.0 is needed by package wxPythonGTK2 > > with > wxGTK-gl-2.6.2-4.fc5 > compat-wxGTK2-gl-2.4.2-16.fc5 > wxGTK-devel-2.6.2-4.fc5 > compat-wxGTK-common-2.4.2-16.fc5 > compat-wxGTK2-2.4.2-16.fc5 > wxGTK-2.6.2-4.fc5 You realize that those are part of Fedora Extras, not Core, right? From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Feb 18 09:57:28 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:57:28 +0100 Subject: OT: Secure Shell standard moving forward Message-ID: <43F6EF88.80307@gmx.de> -------- http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/01/26/1838233 **Secure Shell standard moving forward** The Secure Shell protocol is one step closer to becoming an Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) standard. Earlier this month SSH Communications Security Corp. announced that the Secure Shell protocol specifications have reached Proposed Standard status. Various implementations of the Secure Shell protocol are already in widespread usage, so one might wonder whether this new status will have any impact -- particularly for the OpenSSH project, which is widely used on Linux and BSD-based systems. -------- -------- ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc4256.txt Generic Message Exchange Authentication for the Secure Shell Protocol (SSH) AppGate Network Security AB, January 2006 -------- From roger at gwch.net Sat Feb 18 12:07:07 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:07:07 +0100 Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0602171421m1c36a16au42519add0228080a@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5B23F.4030301@gmx.net> <20060217114512.43638.qmail@web26001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <13dbfe4f0602171421m1c36a16au42519add0228080a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140264427.2440.0.camel@niobe> Am Freitag, den 17.02.2006, 23:21 +0100 schrieb Chitlesh GOORAH: > I prefer anjuta too. > should we call for a maintainer in fedoranews.org ? > > > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > This would perhaps be a good idea. Roger From roger at gwch.net Sat Feb 18 12:28:49 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:28:49 +0100 Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? In-Reply-To: <1140219059.32716.16.camel@T7.Linux> References: <43F5B23F.4030301@gmx.net> <20060217114512.43638.qmail@web26001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <13dbfe4f0602171421m1c36a16au42519add0228080a@mail.gmail.com> <1140217608.32716.5.camel@T7.Linux> <1140219059.32716.16.camel@T7.Linux> Message-ID: <1140265729.2440.4.camel@niobe> so, Paul - go for it :-D Roger Am Freitag, den 17.02.2006, 23:30 +0000 schrieb Paul F. Johnson: > Hi, > > > > I prefer anjuta too. > > > should we call for a maintainer in fedoranews.org ? > > > > If no-one calls it by tomorrow night, I'll take it on. > > Hmmm, 1.2.4 is the latest, so it'll need bumping. That said, Anjuta 2 is > pretty damned cool! > > TTFN > > Paul > -- > "Tr?um's nicht, Lebe schon" - Dr. Frankenfurter, Rocky Horror Show > > From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 18 12:55:49 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 07:55:49 -0500 Subject: Why drop all the control from user? In-Reply-To: References: <43F66314.9060706@insight.rr.com> <1140245457.2244.4.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <43F71955.8000608@insight.rr.com> Miles Lane wrote: > It is time to put this thread to rest. n0dalus is going to write up > a proposal for implementing a slight change to the UI and functionality > that would enable users to have more control over the xscreensaver > hacks that appear in gnome-screensaver. Once n0dalus has done so, > I will do my best to help present the ideas on > screensaver-list at gnome.org. My preference would be to have > n0dalus, or another person who understands Gnome development, > present the ideas. Since, there will likely need to be some debate > on the technical aspects of implementation. If anyone wants to keep > debating about the screensaver, please stop CCing the Fedora list > and discuss on the Gnome list. > > Miles > > On 2/18/06, David Nielsen wrote: >> fre, 17 02 2006 kl. 18:58 -0500, skrev Jim Cornette: >>>> As mentioned already, screensaver-list at gnome.org is the list to talk to. >>>> The only way to know if your ideas will be considered is to propose them >>>> there. >>>> >>>> Matthias >>> OK! >>> >>> Some of us like xscreensaver a lot better than gnome-screensaver. Can >>> you concentrate on making life simpler for users on another project instead? >>> >>> Please read thread below: >>> >>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg01191.html >> And some of us enjoy the more integrated and featureful approach taken >> by the gnome-screensaver project. >> >> your point is? >> >> - David Thanks! I see the archives only go back to October. Originally when the new package was added, I tried it and was dissatisfied with it and removed gss from my system. I feel the program is too young and is really not worthy for inclusion into FC5 and should be deprecated in status. Link to the gss archive included below. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/screensaver-list/ Jim From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Feb 18 16:39:14 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:39:14 +0000 Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? In-Reply-To: <1140265729.2440.4.camel@niobe> References: <43F5B23F.4030301@gmx.net> <20060217114512.43638.qmail@web26001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <13dbfe4f0602171421m1c36a16au42519add0228080a@mail.gmail.com> <1140217608.32716.5.camel@T7.Linux> <1140219059.32716.16.camel@T7.Linux> <1140265729.2440.4.camel@niobe> Message-ID: <1140280754.32716.45.camel@T7.Linux> Hi, > so, Paul - go for it :-D Right. I've got 1.24 compiled on my machine and quite happily working. Do I still need to go through the usual extras procedure of having someone check, sponsor and the such? TTFN Paul -- "Tr?um's nicht, Lebe schon" - Dr. Frankenfurter, Rocky Horror Show From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 19:31:08 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:31:08 -0600 Subject: Custom patches for a kernel build? In-Reply-To: <1511E033-93B4-4C5D-BD90-E45AE1D12E6E@crc.id.au> References: <1511E033-93B4-4C5D-BD90-E45AE1D12E6E@crc.id.au> Message-ID: <8767947e0602181131j204ec8c9q41ac732c95168fe7@mail.gmail.com> On 2/18/06, Steven Haigh wrote: > Hi all, > > This is probably a fairly simple question, but it's not something > I've had to tackle before. I'm playing with home automation, and I'm > trying to get the ADUtux driver working - which means I need to > compile a kernel module. > > I've put up a howto on this at: http://www.crc.id.au/ontrak-adu-218- > on-linux/ > > When I wrote this however, I used the kernel source from a .tar.bz2 > file - not using an RPM as source. Is there a way I can rebuild a > kernel from source, and still use said patches? Sure. Setup a build environment in your home dir (so you don't have to be root and work in /usr/src/redhat/): # yum install fedora-rpmdevtools $ fedora-buildrpmtree Get the kernel src.rpm and install it with: $ rpm -ivh kernel*src.rpm This will unpack it into the rpm tree you setup before. The sources will go into ~/redhat/SOURCES/ Drop your patches into that directory. Then edit the kernel .spec file in ~/redhat/SPECS/ to add your patches. You can also make changes to the appropriate config file if needed. Then: $ rpmbuild -ba ~/redhat/SPECS/kernel.spec (I don't remember if kernel.spec is the name of the file or not) to build the rpm and new src.rpm (-bb for just the rpm). Note that also, in many cases, you can build kernel modules without having to rebuild the entire kernel. I don't know if that is the case here or not, nor am I that familiar with how to do that : ). Oh, b y the way, (in reference to your how-to) I don't think you used kernel 1.6.14.2 ; ). Jonathan From roger at gwch.net Sat Feb 18 20:27:06 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 21:27:06 +0100 Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? In-Reply-To: <1140280754.32716.45.camel@T7.Linux> References: <43F5B23F.4030301@gmx.net> <20060217114512.43638.qmail@web26001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <13dbfe4f0602171421m1c36a16au42519add0228080a@mail.gmail.com> <1140217608.32716.5.camel@T7.Linux> <1140219059.32716.16.camel@T7.Linux> <1140265729.2440.4.camel@niobe> <1140280754.32716.45.camel@T7.Linux> Message-ID: <1140294426.3549.0.camel@neo> Am Samstag, den 18.02.2006, 16:39 +0000 schrieb Paul F. Johnson: > Hi, > > > so, Paul - go for it :-D > > Right. I've got 1.24 compiled on my machine and quite happily working. > Do I still need to go through the usual extras procedure of having > someone check, sponsor and the such? > > TTFN > > Paul > -- > "Tr?um's nicht, Lebe schon" - Dr. Frankenfurter, Rocky Horror Show > > Paul, I think you will have to follow the procedure.... Roger From don_springall at hotmail.com Sat Feb 18 23:12:28 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:12:28 -0700 Subject: kernel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5.src.rpm and suspend/wake Message-ID: I have started to see a lot of I/O errors on my system since I started to test suspend. (see below). Do these indicate hardware problems or software ? I have also included a snip of dmesg where the suspend /wake messages show up. Only problem I see is in an acpi event which is not handled. I/O errors seem to occur only during startup. If these are hardware errors are there any Linux OSS utilities to mark bad sectors on mounted volumes or do a non-destructive surface scan ? sample I/O errors: (note: hdc is my lvm partition, hda is windows fat32, hdb is /boot) hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdc: command error: error=0x51 { IllegalLengthIndication LastFailedSense=0x05 } ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 0 printk: 464 messages suppressed. Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 0 hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdc: command error: error=0x51 { IllegalLengthIndication LastFailedSense=0x05 } ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 8 Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 1 hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdc: command error: error=0x51 { IllegalLengthIndication LastFailedSense=0x05 } ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 16 Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 2 hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdc: command error: error=0x51 { IllegalLengthIndication LastFailedSense=0x05 } ide: failed opcode was: unknown snip of dmesg with suspend/wake: usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 2 audit(:0): major=252 name_count=0: freeing multiple contexts (1) audit(:0): major=113 name_count=0: freeing multiple contexts (2) PM: Preparing system for mem sleep Freezing cpus ... Stopping tasks: ==============================================================================================| ndiswrapper (pnp_set_power_state:424): query power returns C0000001 ndiswrapper (miniport_set_power_state:1208): setting power state to 4 failed: C00000BB ndiswrapper (miniport_set_power_state:1210): device may not support power management pnp: Device 00:08 disabled. PM: Entering mem sleep Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU0: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available CPU0: Thermal LVT vector (0xf0) already installed Back to C! PM: Finishing wakeup. ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.0 to 64 usb usb1: root hub lost power or was reset ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.1[B] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.1 to 64 usb usb2: root hub lost power or was reset PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1e.0 to 64 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.1[A] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.6[B] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.6 to 64 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:04.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 Yenta O2: res at 0x94/0xD4: ca/00 Yenta O2: enabling read prefetch/write burst ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:04.1[B] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 pnp: Device 00:05 does not supported activation. pnp: Device 00:06 does not supported activation. pnp: Device 00:08 activated. ndiswrapper (IoCreateUnprotectedSymbolicLink:739): --UNIMPLEMENTED-- ndiswrapper: using irq 10 Restarting tasks... done Thawing cpus ... ACPI Error (evevent-0312): No installed handler for fixed event [00000002] [20060127] ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] ACPI: Lid Switch [LID] ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB] audit(:0): major=252 name_count=0: freeing multiple contexts (1) audit(:0): major=113 name_count=0: freeing multiple contexts (2) agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 1x mode eth0: link down ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready eth1: no IPv6 routers present usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice input: Microsoft Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM) as /class/input/input4 input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Microsoft Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM)] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2 [don at localhost ~]$ From alan at redhat.com Sat Feb 18 23:41:21 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:41:21 -0500 Subject: kernel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5.src.rpm and suspend/wake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060218234121.GA5933@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 04:12:28PM -0700, Don Springall wrote: > ndiswrapper (pnp_set_power_state:424): query power returns C0000001 > ndiswrapper (miniport_set_power_state:1208): setting power state to 4 > failed: C00000BB > ndiswrapper (miniport_set_power_state:1210): device may not support power Not a supportable configuration. From balamgir at yahoo.com Sat Feb 18 23:42:33 2006 From: balamgir at yahoo.com (Bulbul Alamgir) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 15:42:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 24, Issue 91 In-Reply-To: <20060218170015.E964673489@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060218234233.58554.qmail@web61016.mail.yahoo.com> I have one hard drive with 3 partitions and currently has Windows 2000 Professional on the 1st partition and Windows XP Professional on the 2nd partition. The 3rd partition is empty and not formatted yet. I would like to install Fesdora Core 4 (Desktop version) on the 3rd partition but keeping the first two partitions intact and make it a multiple boot system. I have booted with the Fedora Core 4 CD, selected "Automatic Partition" and then selected "Keep all partitions and use existing free space" option. But it tells me that it is unable to create the partion and something regarding the Root. I am not sure waht the problem is and not very good on manual partitioning. Do not wanna loose the other operating system. Your help will be very much appreciated. Regards, B. Alamgir __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Sat Feb 18 23:45:11 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:45:11 -0500 Subject: testing upgrade FC4+ to rawhide (2006-02-18) Message-ID: <20060218234511.GA13102@wolves.durham.nc.us> Now upgrading from FC4 plus updates to the rawhide of 2006-02-18 (FC5t3?) Anaconda detected the wrong head (PCI found *before* the AGP) and I'm using VNC to follow the upgrade progress. After the upgrade, I'll check the video finder again. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 23:57:45 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:57:45 -0600 Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 24, Issue 91 In-Reply-To: <20060218234233.58554.qmail@web61016.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060218170015.E964673489@hormel.redhat.com> <20060218234233.58554.qmail@web61016.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602181557i3486ce9bg78acb0546545f83b@mail.gmail.com> On 2/18/06, Bulbul Alamgir wrote: > I have one hard drive with 3 partitions and currently > has Windows 2000 Professional on the 1st partition and > Windows XP Professional on the 2nd partition. The 3rd > partition is empty and not formatted yet. I would like > to install Fesdora Core 4 (Desktop version) on the 3rd > partition but keeping the first two partitions intact > and make it a multiple boot system. I have booted with > the Fedora Core 4 CD, selected "Automatic Partition" > and then selected "Keep all partitions and use > existing free space" option. But it tells me that it > is unable to create the partion and something > regarding the Root. I am not sure waht the problem is > and not very good on manual partitioning. Do not wanna > loose the other operating system. Your help will be > very much appreciated. Well, if you have a third partition allocated, then that is not free space. If you want to do automatic partitioning, just (carefully!) delete the third partition. You can do this with DOS fdisk or with Linux fdisk after booting the install. To do so in the install, at some point press Ctrl+Alt+F2 and type fdisk /dev/hda (or replace hda with your hard disk device, though it is probably hda). Make sure you backup everything you really have to have just in case. Doing anything with partitioning and installing could potentially mess something up. Besides, you should make backups anyway, right? : ) Some administrative stuff: This is the test list, meaning not for FC4, but FC5T{1,2,3} and Rawhide. This kind of question would be better sent to the Fedora users list: fedora-list at redhat.com When writing an email to any list, do not reply to a message to start a new topic. Compose a new message. Messages are threaded, and replying messes up the threading. Always pick a meaningful subject as well. Either do not get message digests, or make sure to change the subject to match the thread you are responding to, if you are responding. Message digests just do not work all that well, especially the text-only (I think the other option is called MIME, which allows you to reply to individual messages and can work okay). Jonathan From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Sun Feb 19 06:20:55 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 01:20:55 -0500 Subject: upgrade report - mostly okay Message-ID: <20060219062055.GA16947@wolves.durham.nc.us> The upgrade went pretty well, except for an rhpxl error finding the wrong head (filed) Also, It didn't keep the /etc/hosts file (lost local changes) and thus couldn't NFS mount the home directories. Lost the local hostname too. Took several hours longer than expected. no real show stoppers. --RedWolfe -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From buildsys at redhat.com Sun Feb 19 08:57:41 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 03:57:41 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060219 changes Message-ID: <200602190857.k1J8vfM8032365@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: (none) Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Sun Feb 19 12:29:42 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:29:42 +0100 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback Message-ID: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> I installed todays rawhide tree and found this issues: 1) why is there no shutdown/reboot in the gnome menus ? this is a desktop system and I do not want to suspend it. 2) the user switch feature disappered from gnome-screensaver I was using test2+updates (some days/weeks old) and did not had this issues. can this changes be reverted in fc5 final? other issues : beagled should be started by default if it is enabled in the preferences (had to add it to the gnome-session) why is xfs started by default in runlevel 3 ? If I boot into runlevel 3 (=textmode) I do not need xfs (doubt that anybody needs it) From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 19 12:57:50 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:27:50 +0530 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <43F86B4E.1060104@fedoraproject.org> dragoran wrote: > I installed todays rawhide tree and found this issues: > 1) why is there no shutdown/reboot in the gnome menus ? this is a > desktop system and I do not want to suspend it. Check list archives. Basically a experimental change that is being reverted after the release. > 2) the user switch feature disappered from gnome-screensaver Changelogs mentioned this. There seems to be some nagging issues with supporting this option. > beagled should be started by default if it is enabled in the > preferences (had to add it to the gnome-session) File a bug report? > why is xfs started by default in runlevel 3 ? If I boot into runlevel > 3 (=textmode) I do not need xfs (doubt that anybody needs it) I think we got a lot many bug reports after users forgetting to start xfs. The real long term solution would probably mean revamping the init script system to support dependency mechanisms. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sun Feb 19 13:14:29 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:14:29 -0500 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <43F86F35.9050807@insight.rr.com> dragoran wrote: > I installed todays rawhide tree and found this issues: 1) why is > there no shutdown/reboot in the gnome menus ? this is a desktop > system and I do not want to suspend it. It is an assumption upstream that reflects if your computer is capable of suspending, you do not need a shutdown choices. A lot of comments previously in gnome-power-manager thread. > 2) the user switch feature disappeared from gnome-screensaver I was > using test2+updates (some days/weeks old) and did not had this > issues. can this changes be reverted in fc5 final? Upstream? RH developers? gdmflexiserver could do the same? > other issues : beagled should be started by default if it is enabled > in the preferences (had to add it to the gnome-session) Not familiar with the intent of the program. I did dislike the very large emails sent to system in the past generated by beagle. If as I suppose, it is some "new and improved" GUI file search tool, I have not tried the program myself. I still use locate from the CLI. > why is xfs started by default in runlevel 3 ? If I boot into runlevel > 3 (=textmode) I do not need xfs (doubt that anybody needs it) Traditionally, it was not wise to start in runlevel 5 and was considered safer to start in runlevel 3. In runlevel 3, I myself start X via startx command. Runlevel 3 simply allows you when to launch and close X with multiple virtual terminals. Runlevel 5 presents the respawning if X fails with virtual terminals. If xfs is needed to run startx, leave it in runlevel 3. Jim -- Cahn's Axiom: When all else fails, read the instructions. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 19 13:15:56 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:45:56 +0530 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <43F86F35.9050807@insight.rr.com> References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> <43F86F35.9050807@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <43F86F8C.2010301@fedoraproject.org> Jim Cornette wrote: > dragoran wrote: > >> I installed todays rawhide tree and found this issues: 1) why is >> there no shutdown/reboot in the gnome menus ? this is a desktop >> system and I do not want to suspend it. > > > It is an assumption upstream that reflects if your computer is capable > of suspending, you do not need a shutdown choices. A lot of comments > previously in gnome-power-manager thread. Incorrect. It is a Fedora specific change. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 19 13:17:27 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:47:27 +0530 Subject: Today's nit picks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43F86FE7.90500@fedoraproject.org> Don Springall wrote: > If you send a file to the trash with Konqueror it end up on my system > in /home/don/.local/share/Trash/files. > If you send something to the trash with Nautilus it end up in > /home/don/.Trash > When you are running a gnome desktop the trash icon point to > /home/don/.Trash so you never see the files Konqueror sent to its > trash can. > > When you switch from a gnome session to a kde session (gnome being > your default) you are then prompted with a dialog asking if you want > to make kde your default manager or just use it for this session only. > If you choose this session only kde still ends up being the default. > > If you try opening a file with kwrite from Konqueror (in super user > mode using "kdesu kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing") you get "KDEInit > could not launch 'kwrite'". If you have confirmed these as bugs, kindly file bug reports and post to the list for wider consumption. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sun Feb 19 13:33:48 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:33:48 -0500 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <43F86F8C.2010301@fedoraproject.org> References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> <43F86F35.9050807@insight.rr.com> <43F86F8C.2010301@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43F873BC.6000600@insight.rr.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> dragoran wrote: >> >>> I installed todays rawhide tree and found this issues: 1) why is >>> there no shutdown/reboot in the gnome menus ? this is a desktop >>> system and I do not want to suspend it. >> >> >> It is an assumption upstream that reflects if your computer is capable >> of suspending, you do not need a shutdown choices. A lot of comments >> previously in gnome-power-manager thread. > > Incorrect. It is a Fedora specific change. > Thanks! I thought that upstream GNOME decided on this approach. Either way, limiting the ability to reboot/shutdown is not practical for many reasons. Jim -- Cahn's Axiom: When all else fails, read the instructions. From wrrhdev at riede.org Sun Feb 19 13:54:34 2006 From: wrrhdev at riede.org (Willem Riede) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:54:34 -0500 Subject: the big update Message-ID: <1140357274l.23688l.1l@athena.riede.org> Now that the tree has stabalized after the big wave of recompiles, I took the opportunity to do a yum update on my FC5 test machine. I had to manually remove the 32 bit mozilla that for some historic reason was still present on my x86_64 machine, after that things went smoothly, with th exceptin of the following ripples: Updating : SysVinit ################### [ 674/2248] telinit: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl Updating : dovecot ################### [ 798/2248] Info: Diffie-Hellman parameter file already exists. Updating : hsqldb ################### [ 990/2248] Changing shell for hsqldb. Shell not changed. Cleanup : GConf ################### [1345/2248] /sbin/ldconfig: relative path `1' used to build cache error: %postun(GConf-1.0.9-18.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 Cleanup : crypto-utils ################### [1627/2248] install-catalog: removal of /usr/share/sgml/openjade-1.3.2/catalog from /etc/sgml/openjade-1.3.2-23.soc install-catalog: removal of /etc/sgml/openjade-1.3.2-23.soc from /etc/sgml/catalog The scriptlet failing has me worried, the others I think are harmless (but do correct me, by all means). Regards, Willem Riede. From pb at partha.com Sun Feb 19 16:09:45 2006 From: pb at partha.com (Partha Bagchi) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:09:45 -0500 Subject: Gnome-power-manager does not display remaining battery time Message-ID: <43F89849.6080502@partha.com> I am not sure whether this has been reported or not. On my hardware, the gnome-power-manager does not display the amount of time left when on battery. If you mouse over it, it shows: Computer is running on battery power Unknown time (81%) remaining My current hardware is an HP dv8000 with AMD 64bit CPU. On my previous Centrino laptop this was not an issue at least with the battery applet. uname -a: Linux 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 #1 SMP Wed Feb 15 15:45:28 EST 2006 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Thanks, Partha From bshotts at panix.com Sun Feb 19 16:17:07 2006 From: bshotts at panix.com (William Shotts) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:17:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: HAL problems with floppy drives Message-ID: <50406.69.139.155.62.1140365827.squirrel@mail.panix.com> I'm running the current Rawhide FC5 and have been looking at device detection issues and mounting. I earlier mentioned a problem with Konqueror where is would mount a floppy drive multiple times and not be able to unmount it. It looks like the problem might be that HAL does not delete the mount point in /media after unmounting, the mount points just pile up. With other devices, such as USB flash drives, unmounting results in deletion of the mount point. Another troublsome situation arises when a USB drive is attached at boot time. In that case, the device is mounted but root seems to own the device and the user is unable to umount it. Is this intentional? ||||| William Shotts, Jr. (bshotts AT panix DOT com) ||||| Be a Linux Commander! Follow me to http://linuxcommand.org ||||| See my photography! http://www.williamshottsphotography.com From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 16:42:51 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:42:51 -0500 Subject: HAL problems with floppy drives In-Reply-To: <50406.69.139.155.62.1140365827.squirrel@mail.panix.com> References: <50406.69.139.155.62.1140365827.squirrel@mail.panix.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602190842w23f4996er2b9fefec0acdc460@mail.gmail.com> On 2/19/06, William Shotts wrote: > Another troublsome situation arises when a USB drive is attached at boot > time. In that case, the device is mounted but root seems to own the > device and the user is unable to umount it. Is this intentional? I'm not seeing this behavior on my system. Is there an fstab entry that corresponds to that device on your system. There shouldn't be.. but if there is that could explain the root owned automount that's happening before desktop login. -jef From bshotts at panix.com Sun Feb 19 17:00:14 2006 From: bshotts at panix.com (William Shotts) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:00:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: HAL problems with floppy drives In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602190842w23f4996er2b9fefec0acdc460@mail.gmail.com> References: <50406.69.139.155.62.1140365827.squirrel@mail.panix.com> <604aa7910602190842w23f4996er2b9fefec0acdc460@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45716.69.139.155.62.1140368414.squirrel@mail.panix.com> > On 2/19/06, William Shotts wrote: >> Another troublsome situation arises when a USB drive is attached at boot >> time. In that case, the device is mounted but root seems to own the >> device and the user is unable to umount it. Is this intentional? > > > I'm not seeing this behavior on my system. Is there an fstab entry > that corresponds to that device on your system. There shouldn't be.. > but if there is that could explain the root owned automount that's > happening before desktop login. No, there are no such entries in fstab, however another thing I just discovered is that the problem does not affect all USB devices. The problem seems not to occur with my USB flash drive but does affect my 120GB USB hard disk. After reboot and login media looks like this: [bshotts at twin7 ~]$ ls -l /media total 20 drwxr-xr-x 2 bshotts root 16384 Dec 31 1969 disk drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Feb 18 16:04 usb-ext3 "disk" is a 16MB USB pen drive and "usb-ext3" is the hard drive. ||||| William Shotts, Jr. (bshotts AT panix DOT com) ||||| Be a Linux Commander! Follow me to http://linuxcommand.org ||||| See my photography! http://www.williamshottsphotography.com From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 17:05:05 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:05:05 -0500 Subject: HAL problems with floppy drives In-Reply-To: <45716.69.139.155.62.1140368414.squirrel@mail.panix.com> References: <50406.69.139.155.62.1140365827.squirrel@mail.panix.com> <604aa7910602190842w23f4996er2b9fefec0acdc460@mail.gmail.com> <45716.69.139.155.62.1140368414.squirrel@mail.panix.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602190905v6594a773r8e10357befa5f2b7@mail.gmail.com> On 2/19/06, William Shotts wrote: > No, there are no such entries in fstab, however another thing I just > discovered is that the problem does not affect all USB devices. The > problem seems not to occur with my USB flash drive but does affect my > 120GB USB hard disk. After reboot and login media looks like this: I have a usb 240GB harddrive but its vfat formated that doesn't have this issue. -jef From bshotts at panix.com Sun Feb 19 17:20:22 2006 From: bshotts at panix.com (William Shotts) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:20:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: HAL problems with floppy drives In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602190905v6594a773r8e10357befa5f2b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <50406.69.139.155.62.1140365827.squirrel@mail.panix.com> <604aa7910602190842w23f4996er2b9fefec0acdc460@mail.gmail.com> <45716.69.139.155.62.1140368414.squirrel@mail.panix.com> <604aa7910602190905v6594a773r8e10357befa5f2b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <51164.69.139.155.62.1140369622.squirrel@mail.panix.com> > I have a usb 240GB harddrive but its vfat formated that doesn't have this > issue. > > -jef I just replaced the ext3 formatted drive with a vfat formatted drive and the problem did not occur, so vfat is immune while ext3 is not. ||||| William Shotts, Jr. (bshotts AT panix DOT com) ||||| Be a Linux Commander! Follow me to http://linuxcommand.org ||||| See my photography! http://www.williamshottsphotography.com From rdieter at math.unl.edu Sun Feb 19 17:39:37 2006 From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:39:37 -0600 Subject: Today's nit picks In-Reply-To: <43F86FE7.90500@fedoraproject.org> References: <43F86FE7.90500@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43F8AD59.2020603@math.unl.edu> Don Springall wrote: > If you send a file to the trash with Konqueror it end up on my system > in /home/don/.local/share/Trash/files. > If you send something to the trash with Nautilus it end up in > /home/don/.Trash > When you are running a gnome desktop the trash icon point to > /home/don/.Trash so you never see the files Konqueror sent to its > trash can. AFAIK, KDE uses the freedeskop.org trash spec(*), gnome doesn't (yet), so this behavior is not surprising. (*) See "Trash specification" on http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards -- Rex From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 17:35:01 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:35:01 -0500 Subject: HAL problems with floppy drives In-Reply-To: <51164.69.139.155.62.1140369622.squirrel@mail.panix.com> References: <50406.69.139.155.62.1140365827.squirrel@mail.panix.com> <604aa7910602190842w23f4996er2b9fefec0acdc460@mail.gmail.com> <45716.69.139.155.62.1140368414.squirrel@mail.panix.com> <604aa7910602190905v6594a773r8e10357befa5f2b7@mail.gmail.com> <51164.69.139.155.62.1140369622.squirrel@mail.panix.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602190935m2a0f6096p786023480abc56e7@mail.gmail.com> On 2/19/06, William Shotts wrote: > I just replaced the ext3 formatted drive with a vfat formatted drive and > the problem did not occur, so vfat is immune while ext3 is not. well then... the question is.. is this broken behavior or a feature? since ext3 supports multiuser permissions it could be delibrate detection on bootup.. or it could be an oversight since the common scenario is vfat for per-user attached storage. Seems like a bug to me. -jef From dennis at ausil.us Sun Feb 19 17:41:58 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:41:58 -0600 Subject: Today's nit picks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200602191142.16063.dennis@ausil.us> Once upon a time Thursday 29 December 2005 2:24 pm, Don Springall wrote: > If you try opening a file with kwrite from Konqueror (in super user mode > using "kdesu kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing") you get "KDEInit could not > launch 'kwrite'". not sure what your tring to do there but "kdesu kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing" opens konqueror as root for web browsing what you would want is to do is "kdesu kwrite" if you want to open a file for editing as root or perhaos "kdesu kate" -- Dennis Gilmore, RHCE http://www.ausil.us Proud Australian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bshotts at panix.com Sun Feb 19 17:59:46 2006 From: bshotts at panix.com (William Shotts) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:59:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: HAL problems with floppy drives In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602190935m2a0f6096p786023480abc56e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <50406.69.139.155.62.1140365827.squirrel@mail.panix.com> <604aa7910602190842w23f4996er2b9fefec0acdc460@mail.gmail.com> <45716.69.139.155.62.1140368414.squirrel@mail.panix.com> <604aa7910602190905v6594a773r8e10357befa5f2b7@mail.gmail.com> <51164.69.139.155.62.1140369622.squirrel@mail.panix.com> <604aa7910602190935m2a0f6096p786023480abc56e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35726.69.139.155.62.1140371986.squirrel@mail.panix.com> > well then... the question is.. is this broken behavior or a feature? > since ext3 supports multiuser permissions it could be delibrate > detection on bootup.. or it could be an oversight since the common > scenario is vfat for per-user attached storage. > Seems like a bug to me. > > -jef I agree. Seems like an oversight. I notice also that if the volume is present at boot time, it is given a different mount point name (some variation on "disk") than when it is hot-plugged (volume name). While this volume name/mount point issue has been discussed extensively on this list, there are a few things I would like to say about it. First, as a CLI user, the use of volume names for mount points is clearly annoying but I'll live with whatever decision is made. However, I am concerned that the volume name scheme is not consistently applied (see above) and perhaps more importantly, it appears contrary to the FHS. It is my belief that, all things being equal, the decision should lean towards standards. My 2 cents. ||||| William Shotts, Jr. (bshotts AT panix DOT com) ||||| Be a Linux Commander! Follow me to http://linuxcommand.org ||||| See my photography! http://www.williamshottsphotography.com From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 18:06:13 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:06:13 -0500 Subject: HAL problems with floppy drives In-Reply-To: <35726.69.139.155.62.1140371986.squirrel@mail.panix.com> References: <50406.69.139.155.62.1140365827.squirrel@mail.panix.com> <604aa7910602190842w23f4996er2b9fefec0acdc460@mail.gmail.com> <45716.69.139.155.62.1140368414.squirrel@mail.panix.com> <604aa7910602190905v6594a773r8e10357befa5f2b7@mail.gmail.com> <51164.69.139.155.62.1140369622.squirrel@mail.panix.com> <604aa7910602190935m2a0f6096p786023480abc56e7@mail.gmail.com> <35726.69.139.155.62.1140371986.squirrel@mail.panix.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602191006x573ac26fy1b67c3665a6ce3c6@mail.gmail.com> On 2/19/06, William Shotts wrote: > I notice also that if the volume is present at boot time, it is given a > different mount point name (some variation on "disk") than when it is > hot-plugged (volume name). While this volume name/mount point issue has > been discussed extensively on this list, there are a few things I would > like to say about it. Something is definitely odd about the boot-time versus post-boottime behavior which needs to be addressed. I can't see a good argument for a difference in behavior like that. That would explain why I dont see the volumename mounts that other people are complaining about. The whole point of using the volumename is sort of defeated if its not consistently applied with regard to when in time the device is present on the system. This is most definitely a filable if no one has filed it yet. -jef"and it looks to me that there is plans afoot to provide a way for users to override the volumename scheme on a per-user basis, look at the ui tool gnome-mount-properties for a glimpse at what is to come"spaleta From rodd at clarkson.id.au Sun Feb 19 20:25:14 2006 From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:25:14 +1100 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <43F873BC.6000600@insight.rr.com> References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> <43F86F35.9050807@insight.rr.com> <43F86F8C.2010301@fedoraproject.org> <43F873BC.6000600@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1140380714.3277.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 08:33 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Jim Cornette wrote: > > > >> dragoran wrote: > >> > >>> I installed todays rawhide tree and found this issues: 1) why is > >>> there no shutdown/reboot in the gnome menus ? this is a desktop > >>> system and I do not want to suspend it. > >> > >> > >> It is an assumption upstream that reflects if your computer is capable > >> of suspending, you do not need a shutdown choices. A lot of comments > >> previously in gnome-power-manager thread. > > > > Incorrect. It is a Fedora specific change. > > > > Thanks! I thought that upstream GNOME decided on this approach. Either > way, limiting the ability to reboot/shutdown is not practical for many > reasons. Yeah, for example on a system that doesn't suspend properly, but all you're offered is the opportunity to suspend. Once FC5t3 is out I'm going to do some serious looking into why my very recent Dell Inspiron 9300 doesn't suspend (or hibernate), but even so, I still need some way of shutting down the system, and getting it to start again (without having to reboot using the on/off key after suspending) I guess what I'm saying is maybe we need to leave shutdown and restart in place until such time as suspend is actually working as expected. Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 19 23:20:27 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:20:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <1140380714.3277.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20060219232027.29275.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> --- Rodd Clarkson wrote: > On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 08:33 -0500, Jim Cornette > wrote: > > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > Jim Cornette wrote: > > > > > >> dragoran wrote: > > >> > > >>> I installed todays rawhide tree and found this > issues: 1) why is > > >>> there no shutdown/reboot in the gnome menus ? > this is a desktop > > >>> system and I do not want to suspend it. > > >> > > >> > > >> It is an assumption upstream that reflects if > your computer is capable > > >> of suspending, you do not need a shutdown > choices. A lot of comments > > >> previously in gnome-power-manager thread. > > > > > > Incorrect. It is a Fedora specific change. > > > > > > > Thanks! I thought that upstream GNOME decided on > this approach. Either > > way, limiting the ability to reboot/shutdown is > not practical for many > > reasons. > > Yeah, for example on a system that doesn't suspend > properly, but all > you're offered is the opportunity to suspend. > > Once FC5t3 is out I'm going to do some serious > looking into why my very > recent Dell Inspiron 9300 doesn't suspend (or > hibernate), but even so, I > still need some way of shutting down the system, and > getting it to start > again (without having to reboot using the on/off key > after suspending) Become super user $ su - psswd: ****** # shutdown -h now and/or # poweroff should work as usual(from command line/terminal) in case the options are removed from KDE/GNOME. Best Regards, Antonio > > I guess what I'm saying is maybe we need to leave > shutdown and restart > in place until such time as suspend is actually > working as expected. > > > Rodd > -- > "It's a fine line between denial and faith. > It's much better on my side" > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Mon Feb 20 00:07:41 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:07:41 -0500 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <20060219232027.29275.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060219232027.29275.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43F9084D.9070409@insight.rr.com> Antonio Olivares wrote: > > --- Rodd Clarkson wrote: >> Yeah, for example on a system that doesn't suspend properly, but >> all you're offered is the opportunity to suspend. >> >> Once FC5t3 is out I'm going to do some serious looking into why my >> very recent Dell Inspiron 9300 doesn't suspend (or hibernate), but >> even so, I still need some way of shutting down the system, and >> getting it to start again (without having to reboot using the >> on/off key after suspending) Hitting the power button once on my HP laptop works to shutdown the system cleanly. You can also make a launcher on your desktop with the poweroff command and it will shut down the system cleanly. I cannot suspend either. I used to be able to suspend and the computer would flash the light as in suspend. Whenever I would try to resume though, the laptop display was blank and the keyboard input did not seem to take. Later, I was testing hibernate and the computer would cycle for a short time, then come back to life. The symptoms showed that it could not find a swap partition. Swapon -s showed I had an active partition. I however reformatted the swap and changed to device to /dev/hda5 in fstab rather than the SWAP-hda5 label it had previously. Now suspend will seem to take. It errors on recovery from the suspend state specifying that it could not find a suspend signature on swap and will not resume. Go figure! (my fault for the reformatting swap additional problem) > > Become super user $ su - psswd: ****** # shutdown -h now and/or # > poweroff should work as usual(from command line/terminal) in case the > options are removed from KDE/GNOME. poweroff does not require root privileges on my system anyway. > Best Regards, > Antonio > >> I guess what I'm saying is maybe we need to leave shutdown and >> restart in place until such time as suspend is actually working as >> expected. >> They should be available regardless. Who is to determine if one uses the laptop once a month or several times a day. The user should have all options available and decide which mode to set their computer into. >> >> Rodd Jim From mharris at mharris.ca Mon Feb 20 00:36:50 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:36:50 -0500 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <43F90F22.90309@mharris.ca> dragoran wrote: > why is xfs started by default in runlevel 3 ? If I boot into runlevel 3 > (=textmode) I do not need xfs (doubt that anybody needs it) We have standardized on the X server installation using a font server by default since RHL 5.x days, perhaps earlier, and all of the X config infrastructure throughout the OS expects that you are using xfs to serve fonts if you are using X at all. This includes all of the font rpm packages, which add their paths to the xfs config via chkfontpath. xfs is started by default always, to ensure that it is running *if* you run X, be that via gdm/xdm/kdm, or via "startx", as the X server will not start if xfs is not running, unless you manually reconfigure the X server to serve fonts directly. While some users prefer to have the X server serve fonts directly in this manner, this type of configuration is not integrated well with the system the way our infrastructure is set up currently. xfs starts up quite quickly, and does not delay boot time by any significant amount (unless you have 10000 fonts installed perhaps). The benefit of having it start always, is that any time someone decides to run X, xfs is already running and they needn't know about it nor have to manually start it themselves. One of the most frequently reported "bugs" years ago, was people filing bugs about their X server not starting and getting the error message: "Can't find font 'fixed'". While that error can be caused by several things, the most frequent reason it is happens, is because the xfs font server is not running, and the X server expects it to be running (in our xfs based method of installation). Users who do not use xfs, and who are aware that it even exists, are far more technically advanced enough to manually disable it from starting at boot time themselves, and are less likely to file bug reports about "can't find font fixed", because they're likely aware what xfs is, and what they need to do if they start up X later and it gives errors of that nature. On the other hand, many people don't know that xfs exists or what it is, and if they start their X server and get errors about "cant find font fixed", they're more likely to be irate that X does not just "work" as they expect, and they're also much more likely to file bug reports in bugzilla about the problem. > I do not need xfs (doubt that anybody needs it) Technically, nobody "needs" xfs. You can run an X server without a separate font server, if you correctly configure the X server to do so first. That however is not something we support out of the box, and none of our font configuration tools are adapted to manage systems configured in this manner. So from a support perspective, all systems that run X are expected to be using xfs, and also from a support perspective xfs is enabled by default to cut down on bogus bug reports received as indicated above. Users who don't want xfs to run at bootup are free to disable it as desired, however our current defaults are intentionally chosen to run xfs at boot time, and there are no plans in the immediate future of changing that. In the future, if X.Org figures out a smart way to have core fonts provided via fontconfig, and it is reliable, we will probably consider disabling xfs by default, as that would greatly simply the font subsystem(s), however while there has been talk of this upstream for several years, no work has actually been done towards that I don't believe. We can all remain hopeful. ;o) -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 01:03:10 2006 From: n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com (n0dalus) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:33:10 +1030 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <43F90F22.90309@mharris.ca> References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> <43F90F22.90309@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <6280325c0602191703m4357ada7qe62a1af84c7a3656@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > xfs is started by default always, to ensure that it is running *if* you > run X, be that via gdm/xdm/kdm, or via "startx", as the X server will > not start if xfs is not running, unless you manually reconfigure the > X server to serve fonts directly. While some users prefer to have the > X server serve fonts directly in this manner, this type of configuration > is not integrated well with the system the way our infrastructure is > set up currently. > This question seems a bit obvious, but why can't X just start xfs when it's run, or at least give a useful warning message when xfs is not available? n0dalus. From monty19 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 20 00:22:54 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:22:54 +0900 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de><43F86F35.9050807@insight.rr.com> <43F86F8C.2010301@fedoraproject.org><43F873BC.6000600@insight.rr.com> <1140380714.3277.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: It is out. ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/Linux/Fedora/core/test/4.92/ I thought it wasn't supposed to be released until Monday in the states, but I download from this local (for me) mirror Saturday morning over here which would have been Friday evening in the states. I had nothing to lose installing it, so I went ahead. > Once FC5t3 is out I'm going to do some serious looking into why my very > recent Dell Inspiron 9300 doesn't suspend (or hibernate), but even so, I > still need some way of shutting down the system, and getting it to start > again (without having to reboot using the on/off key after suspending) > From ptiggerdine at astute-systems.com Mon Feb 20 01:41:02 2006 From: ptiggerdine at astute-systems.com (Peter Tiggerdine) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:41:02 +1000 Subject: MPPE and fedora integration. Message-ID: <1140399662.5618.6.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> Hi Testers, Now that the mppe module appears in the upstream main kernels, does Red Hat have any intension to integrate this into the system-config-network and initscripts packages? I know it's not the best VPN software but it does allow most of us with existing MS VPN infrastructure to work from our FC5test2 installs. I do have some patches that _might_ be helpful is anyone wants a looks. ( These are really bad hacks, but they work). -- Peter Tiggerdine Astute Systems -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michel.salim at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 05:37:35 2006 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 00:37:35 -0500 Subject: MPPE and fedora integration. In-Reply-To: <1140399662.5618.6.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> References: <1140399662.5618.6.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> Message-ID: <883cfe6d0602192137p7ebece48o@mail.gmail.com> On 19/02/06, Peter Tiggerdine wrote: > > Hi Testers, > > Now that the mppe module appears in the upstream main kernels, does Red > Hat have any intension to integrate this into the system-config-network and > initscripts packages? I know it's not the best VPN software but it does > allow most of us with existing MS VPN infrastructure to work from our > FC5test2 installs. > > I do have some patches that _might_ be helpful is anyone wants a looks. ( > These are really bad hacks, but they work). Me and my fellow Linux users at Indiana University would really welcome those patches, ugly or not. Any chance you could put them up somewhere? Thanks, -- Michel Salim http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~msalim http://the-dubois-papers.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michel.salim at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 05:35:26 2006 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 00:35:26 -0500 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview Message-ID: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Davyd Madeley has released his latest GNOME preview: http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/ and it has some interesting features, such as the new fast-user switching interface resembling OS X's. I recall previous incarnations of this feature being explicitly removed from Fedora's GNOME; would that explain why as of now this feature is absent from the RPMs in -devel ? Thanks, -- Michel Salim http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~msalim http://the-dubois-papers.blogspot.com/ From mharris at mharris.ca Mon Feb 20 06:13:26 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 01:13:26 -0500 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <6280325c0602191703m4357ada7qe62a1af84c7a3656@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> <43F90F22.90309@mharris.ca> <6280325c0602191703m4357ada7qe62a1af84c7a3656@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F95E06.4070906@mharris.ca> n0dalus wrote: > On 2/20/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: > >>xfs is started by default always, to ensure that it is running *if* you >>run X, be that via gdm/xdm/kdm, or via "startx", as the X server will >>not start if xfs is not running, unless you manually reconfigure the >>X server to serve fonts directly. While some users prefer to have the >>X server serve fonts directly in this manner, this type of configuration >>is not integrated well with the system the way our infrastructure is >>set up currently. > > This question seems a bit obvious, but why can't X just start xfs when > it's run, or at least give a useful warning message when xfs is not > available? Solutions of that nature that try to be "too smart", tend to miss various corner cases in the way people use things. What if the X server has been configured to connect to a remote font server instead of one running on the local host? What about multiple font servers? What would doing this really gain? It would not really gain anything /really/ useful, and would only increase the chances of bugs being introduced or hitting unexpected usage corner cases that then have to also be worked around. All that work being done more or less as a wasted effort that does not buy any really terribly useful functionality. The system has worked fine the way it is for 6-8 years or so now, and will probably continue to be shipped as-is until legacy core font usage dies off and is completely replaced by fontconfig hopefully in the future. Any time spent enhancing, xfs, or anything related to core fonts in general, is time invested in dead technology that continues to lose more and more relevance each OS release. It makes no sense to expend any effort in this area, as doing so would be engineering time taken directly away from interesting and useful projects that lay in the direction where the X Window System is going - rather than where it has been. If we were just starting to implement core font system integration at this point in time, what I would do, is avoid using xfs entirely, and have chkfontpath or whatever utilities set to configure the X server directly instead of using a separate font server. The tables would be turned, and our font installation scripts would then cause the X server's configuration to be updated instead, and people who desired the benefits (which are mostly debateable nowadays) of using a font server would then be opting into setting xfs up themselves, for local or networked operation. In a perfect world, it would be theoretically nice if all of the components in the puzzle supported either and/or both methods, and it all just worked in every scenario a user might want to use core fonts in, including with networked servers. Unfortunately though, in the real world, the permutations of how all of this stuff can be configured is quite a mess, and the majority of users out there simply do not need such complexity. As such the system level integration of core fonts support is specifically intended to handle the "default case", which it generally does fairly well, despite some rough edges. While it is of course definitely possible to round those rough edges off, it the benefits to the average user out there are essentially zero. The core fonts system is ancient, very few applications really use it nowadays, however there are enough apps that do still use it that we can't kill it off unless we want hundreds of bug reports from angry users griping about xterm not working, or their favourite motif apps, etc. (although some apps can optionally use fontconfig/Xft, but most don't by default). As long as we have to ship it, we certainly don't want to rock the boat and destabilize what "works" more or less now. Please just let xfs rot in peace until we can just kill it completely. An extra daemon running at boot time isn't really hurting anything, and those who care that much can disable it easily. If you're truly serious about your suggestion however, X.Org mailing lists is the right place to suggest it, as I'm pretty sure we wouldn't waste precious engineering cycles on such a low-gain feature. ;o) -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Mon Feb 20 06:54:35 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:54:35 +0100 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <20060219232027.29275.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060219232027.29275.qmail@web52611.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43F967AB.5080402@feuerpokemon.de> Antonio Olivares wrote: >--- Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > > >>On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 08:33 -0500, Jim Cornette >>wrote: >> >> >>>Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Jim Cornette wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>dragoran wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I installed todays rawhide tree and found this >>>>>> >>>>>> >>issues: 1) why is >> >> >>>>>>there no shutdown/reboot in the gnome menus ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>this is a desktop >> >> >>>>>>system and I do not want to suspend it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>It is an assumption upstream that reflects if >>>>> >>>>> >>your computer is capable >> >> >>>>>of suspending, you do not need a shutdown >>>>> >>>>> >>choices. A lot of comments >> >> >>>>>previously in gnome-power-manager thread. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Incorrect. It is a Fedora specific change. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Thanks! I thought that upstream GNOME decided on >>> >>> >>this approach. Either >> >> >>>way, limiting the ability to reboot/shutdown is >>> >>> >>not practical for many >> >> >>>reasons. >>> >>> >>Yeah, for example on a system that doesn't suspend >>properly, but all >>you're offered is the opportunity to suspend. >> >>Once FC5t3 is out I'm going to do some serious >>looking into why my very >>recent Dell Inspiron 9300 doesn't suspend (or >>hibernate), but even so, I >>still need some way of shutting down the system, and >>getting it to start >>again (without having to reboot using the on/off key >>after suspending) >> >> > >Become super user >$ su - >psswd: ****** ># shutdown -h now >and/or ># poweroff > > > I know that there are other ways to shutdown / reboot the system. But I don't see any reason to remove it from the menu, even upstream does not do it. Don't tell me that having a shutdown/reboot button will confuse users, its the opposite. Maybe we even will get bugreports like this :"updated to fc5 and shutdown button dissapperd" or something like that From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Feb 20 07:43:26 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:43:26 +0100 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de><43F86F35.9050807@insight.rr.com> <43F86F8C.2010301@fedoraproject.org><43F873BC.6000600@insight.rr.com> <1140380714.3277.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43F9731E.4030402@gmx.de> On 20.02.2006 01:22, Jason Montleon wrote: > It is out. ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/Linux/Fedora/core/test/4.92/ I > thought it wasn't supposed to be released until Monday in the states, > but I download from this local (for me) mirror Saturday morning over > here which would have been Friday evening in the states. I had > nothing to lose installing it, so I went ahead. there exist multiples release dates for fc5t3 :-) 13 Feb ? http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/fedora-project.ics DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20060213 <-- DTEND;VALUE=DATE:20060214 SUMMARY:FC5test3 release DTSTAMP:20051219T181100Z or 22 Feb ? http://fedora.redhat.com/About/schedule/ --> 22 February 2006 test3 release, translation build freeze (builds completed) or 20 Feb ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00275.html check the real release date here. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/4.92/ $ lftp ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/4.92/ cd: Zugriff nicht m?glich: 550 Failed to change directory. (/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/4.92) -- shrek-m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 20 08:09:36 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:39:36 +0530 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <43F9731E.4030402@gmx.de> References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de><43F86F35.9050807@insight.rr.com> <43F86F8C.2010301@fedoraproject.org><43F873BC.6000600@insight.rr.com> <1140380714.3277.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43F9731E.4030402@gmx.de> Message-ID: <43F97940.4090502@fedoraproject.org> Hi > > > there exist multiples release dates for fc5t3 :-) No. There isnt. > > > > 13 Feb ? > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/fedora-project.ics > > DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20060213 <-- > DTEND;VALUE=DATE:20060214 > SUMMARY:FC5test3 release > DTSTAMP:20051219T181100Z > > > or 22 Feb ? > http://fedora.redhat.com/About/schedule/ > --> 22 February 2006 test3 release, translation build freeze > (builds completed) As indicated in the frontpage of http://fedora.redhat.com, this site is deprecated. > > > > or 20 Feb ? > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00275.html > > > This one more accurately reflects current status. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From buildsys at redhat.com Mon Feb 20 08:21:09 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:21:09 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060220 changes Message-ID: <200602200821.k1K8L9Zf008789@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: (none) Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Feb 20 08:32:24 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:32:24 +0100 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <43F97940.4090502@fedoraproject.org> References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de><43F86F35.9050807@insight.rr.com> <43F86F8C.2010301@fedoraproject.org><43F873BC.6000600@insight.rr.com> <1140380714.3277.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43F9731E.4030402@gmx.de> <43F97940.4090502@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43F97E98.60106@gmx.de> On 20.02.2006 09:09, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > As indicated in the frontpage of http://fedora.redhat.com, this site > is deprecated. We are currently in the process of evaluating a transition of this website to fedoraproject.org . fedoraproject.org is a community website that is being revamped and has more content being actively added to it on a regular basis. Users and developers are encouraged to visit this website for information and regular updates. The Fedora Websites Team is discussing the transition and a new content management system to host our updated infrastructure. Anyone is welcome to join those discussions. Thank you for your interest in the Fedora Project. with my little english i can not find that this site is deprecated. apropos, the release date "22 Feb" was published a few days ago. please add your comment to this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176607 Release schedule calendar contains no information about FC4 and FC5 -- shrek-m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 20 08:40:35 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:10:35 +0530 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <43F97E98.60106@gmx.de> References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de><43F86F35.9050807@insight.rr.com> <43F86F8C.2010301@fedoraproject.org><43F873BC.6000600@insight.rr.com> <1140380714.3277.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43F9731E.4030402@gmx.de> <43F97940.4090502@fedoraproject.org> <43F97E98.60106@gmx.de> Message-ID: <43F98083.2060002@fedoraproject.org> shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > On 20.02.2006 09:09, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> As indicated in the frontpage of http://fedora.redhat.com, this site >> is deprecated. > > > > We are currently in the process of evaluating a transition of this > website to fedoraproject.org . > fedoraproject.org is a community website that is being revamped and > has more content being actively added to it on a regular basis. Users > and developers are encouraged to visit this website for information > and regular updates. The Fedora Websites Team > is discussing the transition > and a new content management system to host our updated > infrastructure. Anyone is welcome to join those discussions. Thank you > for your interest in the Fedora Project. > > > > > with my little english i can not find that this site is deprecated. A transition to a new site would mean that the current site is deprecated. If you are following the development mailing lists, then you can treat announcements there as authoritative. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From grabka999 at interia.pl Mon Feb 20 11:04:21 2006 From: grabka999 at interia.pl (Marcin Grabda) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:04:21 +0100 Subject: MPPE and fedora integration. In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d0602192137p7ebece48o@mail.gmail.com> References: <1140399662.5618.6.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> <883cfe6d0602192137p7ebece48o@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F9A235.5020404@interia.pl> Michel Salim wrote: > On 19/02/06, Peter Tiggerdine wrote: > >> Hi Testers, >> >> Now that the mppe module appears in the upstream main kernels, does Red >> Hat have any intension to integrate this into the system-config-network and >> initscripts packages? I know it's not the best VPN software but it does >> allow most of us with existing MS VPN infrastructure to work from our >> FC5test2 installs. >> >> I do have some patches that _might_ be helpful is anyone wants a looks. ( >> These are really bad hacks, but they work). >> > > > Me and my fellow Linux users at Indiana University would really welcome > those patches, ugly or not. Any chance you could put them up somewhere? > > Thanks, > > -- > Michel Salim > Me too. I think that MS VPN support should be integrated with forthcoming fedora release. MS VPN servers are popular. At my university there is only one way to connect to internet - through such VPN. Greetings, Marcin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kliknij po wiecej! >>> http://link.interia.pl/f18ed From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 20 11:06:30 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:36:30 +0530 Subject: MPPE and fedora integration. In-Reply-To: <1140399662.5618.6.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> References: <1140399662.5618.6.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> Message-ID: <43F9A2B6.9060307@fedoraproject.org> Peter Tiggerdine wrote: >Hi Testers, > >Now that the mppe module appears in the upstream main kernels, does Red >Hat have any intension to integrate this into the system-config-network >and initscripts packages? I know it's not the best VPN software but it >does allow most of us with existing MS VPN infrastructure to work from >our FC5test2 installs. > >I do have some patches that _might_ be helpful is anyone wants a looks. >( These are really bad hacks, but they work). > > Just file those as attachments against in bugzilla and file a enhancement request. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From grabka999 at interia.pl Mon Feb 20 11:10:10 2006 From: grabka999 at interia.pl (Marcin Grabda) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:10:10 +0100 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F9A392.3040502@interia.pl> Michel Salim wrote: > Hi all, > > Davyd Madeley has released his latest GNOME preview: > http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/ > > and it has some interesting features, such as the new fast-user > switching interface resembling OS X's. I recall previous incarnations > of this feature being explicitly removed from Fedora's GNOME; would > that explain why as of now this feature is absent from the RPMs in > -devel ? > > Thanks, > > -- > Michel Salim > http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~msalim > http://the-dubois-papers.blogspot.com/ > > Anybody can tell me... is user switching enabled now in the gnome-screensaver in rawhide? In FC5Test2 it was disabled. Fast-user-switching and gnome-screensaver user switching are really great features to see. Greetings, Marcin ------------------------------------------------------------------- Zgarnij aparat cyfrowy! >> http://link.interia.pl/f190e << From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 20 13:02:20 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 05:02:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <43F967AB.5080402@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <20060220130220.34750.qmail@web52615.mail.yahoo.com> --- dragoran wrote: > Antonio Olivares wrote: > > >--- Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > > > > > > >>On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 08:33 -0500, Jim Cornette > >>wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Jim Cornette wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>dragoran wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>I installed todays rawhide tree and found this > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>issues: 1) why is > >> > >> > >>>>>>there no shutdown/reboot in the gnome menus ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>this is a desktop > >> > >> > >>>>>>system and I do not want to suspend it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>It is an assumption upstream that reflects if > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>your computer is capable > >> > >> > >>>>>of suspending, you do not need a shutdown > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>choices. A lot of comments > >> > >> > >>>>>previously in gnome-power-manager thread. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Incorrect. It is a Fedora specific change. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Thanks! I thought that upstream GNOME decided on > >>> > >>> > >>this approach. Either > >> > >> > >>>way, limiting the ability to reboot/shutdown is > >>> > >>> > >>not practical for many > >> > >> > >>>reasons. > >>> > >>> > >>Yeah, for example on a system that doesn't suspend > >>properly, but all > >>you're offered is the opportunity to suspend. > >> > >>Once FC5t3 is out I'm going to do some serious > >>looking into why my very > >>recent Dell Inspiron 9300 doesn't suspend (or > >>hibernate), but even so, I > >>still need some way of shutting down the system, > and > >>getting it to start > >>again (without having to reboot using the on/off > key > >>after suspending) > >> > >> > > > >Become super user > >$ su - > >psswd: ****** > ># shutdown -h now > >and/or > ># poweroff > > > > > > > I know that there are other ways to shutdown / > reboot the system. > But I don't see any reason to remove it from the > menu, even upstream > does not do it. Don't tell me that having a > shutdown/reboot button will > confuse users, its the opposite. > Maybe we even will get bugreports like this > :"updated to fc5 and > shutdown button dissapperd" or something like that > You are absolutely correct. Why should they remove it? It does not make any sense. Best Regards, Antonio > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 20 13:05:12 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:35:12 +0530 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <20060220130220.34750.qmail@web52615.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060220130220.34750.qmail@web52615.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43F9BE88.8090901@fedoraproject.org> Hi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>I know that there are other ways to shutdown / >>reboot the system. >>But I don't see any reason to remove it from the >>menu, even upstream >>does not do it. Don't tell me that having a >>shutdown/reboot button will >>confuse users, its the opposite. >>Maybe we even will get bugreports like this >>:"updated to fc5 and >>shutdown button dissapperd" or something like that >> >> >> >You are absolutely correct. Why should they remove >it? > >It does not make any sense. > > Can we stop discussing this?. There was a change made and it is being reverted as mentioned multiple times in this list. Lets move on. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From tarjei.knapstad at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 12:50:33 2006 From: tarjei.knapstad at gmail.com (Tarjei Knapstad) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:50:33 +0100 Subject: Anjuta no longer maintained? In-Reply-To: <1140294426.3549.0.camel@neo> References: <43F5B23F.4030301@gmx.net> <20060217114512.43638.qmail@web26001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <13dbfe4f0602171421m1c36a16au42519add0228080a@mail.gmail.com> <1140217608.32716.5.camel@T7.Linux> <1140219059.32716.16.camel@T7.Linux> <1140265729.2440.4.camel@niobe> <1140280754.32716.45.camel@T7.Linux> <1140294426.3549.0.camel@neo> Message-ID: On 2/18/06, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > Am Samstag, den 18.02.2006, 16:39 +0000 schrieb Paul F. Johnson: > > Hi, > > > > > so, Paul - go for it :-D > > > > Right. I've got 1.24 compiled on my machine and quite happily working. > > Do I still need to go through the usual extras procedure of having > > someone check, sponsor and the such? > > > > > Paul, > > I think you will have to follow the procedure.... > It's a different procedure, see the "How to claim ownership of a package listed here" section of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/OrphanedPackages -- T From overholt at redhat.com Mon Feb 20 13:44:51 2006 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:44:51 -0500 Subject: Eclipse - failed dependencies - after 10 Feb Update In-Reply-To: <43EDFA28.3030304@gmail.com> References: <43EDFA28.3030304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060220134451.GB19155@redhat.com> * Doug Fordham [2006-02-11 09:52]: > Error: Missing Dependency: eclipse-platform = 3.1.2 is needed by package > eclipse-bugzilla I know this was a while ago, but I figured I'd explain. This was my fault and I fixed it the following day. It was because I put a hard dependency on eclipse-platform 3.1.2 and not >= (with a < 3.1.3). Sorry. Andrew From bmillett at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 14:40:20 2006 From: bmillett at gmail.com (Brian Millett) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:40:20 -0600 Subject: Error inserting a pcmcia flash momory card Message-ID: <1140446420.4716.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I am running the latest rawhide as of 02/20/06 (today) and I just got a hold of a Kingston compact flash -> pcmcia adapter. I put in a card and inserted it. I got a popup notification with "You are not priviledged to mount the volumn 'some name'" A tail of var log messages shows: Feb 20 08:33:05 localhost kernel: pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 1 Feb 20 08:33:05 localhost kernel: pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia1.0 Feb 20 08:33:05 localhost kernel: hde: Hitachi ATA Card, CFA DISK drive Feb 20 08:33:06 localhost kernel: ide2 at 0x3100-0x3107,0x310e on irq 3 Feb 20 08:33:06 localhost kernel: hde: max request size: 128KiB Feb 20 08:33:06 localhost kernel: hde: 125184 sectors (64 MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=978/4/32 Feb 20 08:33:06 localhost kernel: hde: hde1 Feb 20 08:33:06 localhost kernel: ide-cs: hde: Vcc = 3.3, Vpp = 0.0 As root, I can mount /dev/hde1, so that works, but the hal seems to not get the correct privileges. Is this a bug? Or feature? 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Users > > and developers are encouraged to visit this website for information > > and regular updates. The Fedora Websites Team > > is discussing the transition > > and a new content management system to host our updated > > infrastructure. Anyone is welcome to join those discussions. Thank you > > for your interest in the Fedora Project. > > > > > > > > > > with my little english i can not find that this site is deprecated. > > A transition to a new site would mean that the current site is > deprecated. If you are following the development mailing lists, then you > can treat announcements there as authoritative. Yes, but is doesn't say it's a transition, just "evaluating a transition". To me, this means the new site is being tested only. Perhaps "evaluating a transition" should be changed to "transitioning" if that's really the intent. -Paul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 20 15:06:42 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:36:42 +0530 Subject: todays rawhide - feedback In-Reply-To: <20060220080413.fe53aaf5.paul@permanentmail.com> References: <43F864B6.6090704@feuerpokemon.de> <43F86F35.9050807@insight.rr.com> <43F86F8C.2010301@fedoraproject.org> <43F873BC.6000600@insight.rr.com> <1140380714.3277.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43F9731E.4030402@gmx.de> <43F97940.4090502@fedoraproject.org> <43F97E98.60106@gmx.de> <43F98083.2060002@fedoraproject.org> <20060220080413.fe53aaf5.paul@permanentmail.com> Message-ID: <43F9DB02.4020505@fedoraproject.org> Hi >Yes, but is doesn't say it's a transition, just "evaluating a >transition". To me, this means the new site is being tested only. > >Perhaps "evaluating a transition" should be changed to "transitioning" if >that's really the intent. > > > Hey, status changes happen. We still need to work out various details. Check fedora-websites list archives if you are interested. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From tatxe at tatxe.org Mon Feb 20 15:57:32 2006 From: tatxe at tatxe.org (tatxe) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:57:32 +0100 Subject: Someting Strange Message-ID: <1140451052.12353.3.camel@localhost> Hi all: In the last upgrade, after restarting the computer I've lost Gnome :D... I mean, I have X server but a primitive version of windowm manager not with gnome. I'ts normal or only happens to me? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: Esta parte del mensaje est? firmada digitalmente URL: From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 20 16:43:25 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:43:25 -0500 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Michel Salim (michel.salim at gmail.com) said: > Davyd Madeley has released his latest GNOME preview: > http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/ > > and it has some interesting features, such as the new fast-user > switching interface resembling OS X's. I recall previous incarnations > of this feature being explicitly removed from Fedora's GNOME; would > that explain why as of now this feature is absent from the RPMs in > -devel ? Yes - basically, without finding a good, solid solution to device ownership (groups aren't it), having fast user switching on is very problematic. Bill From fedora-test-list at cygnusx-1.org Mon Feb 20 17:02:26 2006 From: fedora-test-list at cygnusx-1.org (Nathan Grennan) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:02:26 -0800 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43F9F622.8050108@cygnusx-1.org> Bill Nottingham wrote: > Yes - basically, without finding a good, solid solution to device > ownership (groups aren't it), having fast user switching on is > very problematic. > I would think there wouldn't be a "secure" way to do this. Giving multiple users access to mounted external drives would be problematic. Things to worry about less would be video and sound devices. Overall though I don't think flat out disabling the option is the best solution. In my mind the only option that would work would be groups, unless dyanmically changing ACLs might work. A compromise would be to add an option to enable it with a security warning. It isn't like people don't setup their desktops to auto-login knowing they are comprimising security. But overall with physical access any form of security other than encrypted everything is pretty much worthless, and encrypted everything is not the default either. From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr Mon Feb 20 17:11:40 2006 From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Rakotomandimby Mihamina) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:11:40 +0100 Subject: how to use an older gcc ? Message-ID: <1140455500.6074.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I have to compile qemu 0.8 RPM on a fedora core 4 box. FC4 comes with gcc4 but qemu wont compile with it. How should I do to get temporarily a gcc 3.3.6 just to compile it then get back to my gcc 4? I lost my FC4/FC3 CDs, would you know a (FTP if possibe) repository where I could find a gcc 3.3.6 rpm? -- A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source & GPL). Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better. http://www.cps-project.org for downloads & documentation. Free hosting of CPS groupware: http://www.objectis.org. From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 17:07:14 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:07:14 -0500 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602200907t26901badt811e5e9c9d7f03f3@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Yes - basically, without finding a good, solid solution to device > ownership (groups aren't it), having fast user switching on is > very problematic. Is it even possible to enumate the types problematic devices? Assuming we are talking about multiple users at the physical console. hot-(un)pluggable devices that users have physical access certaintly share a common level of "ownership" complexity. But internal non-hotpluggable devices would have different constraints would they not from an ownership pov? And then of course there's crap thats in between.. items which are technically hot-pluggable but which because of the specific situation.. none of the console users can actually unplug as part of non-malicious usage. (but I guess the administrator could mark those devices in some way as special so they are treated as non-hotpluggable items) -jef From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 20 17:17:24 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:17:24 -0500 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602200907t26901badt811e5e9c9d7f03f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <604aa7910602200907t26901badt811e5e9c9d7f03f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060220171724.GH26228@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Jeff Spaleta (jspaleta at gmail.com) said: > On 2/20/06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Yes - basically, without finding a good, solid solution to device > > ownership (groups aren't it), having fast user switching on is > > very problematic. > > Is it even possible to enumate the types problematic devices? > Assuming we are talking about multiple users at the physical console. Anything where ownership exists with pam_console. Really, it's blocking on (among other things) revoke() support in the kernel. Bill From jkeating at redhat.com Mon Feb 20 18:02:42 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:02:42 -0800 Subject: Announcing Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Message-ID: <1140458562.2312.79.camel@ender> Forty-four years ago, John Hershel Glenn Jr. is successfully launched into space aboard the Friendship 7 spacecraft on the first orbital flight by an American astronaut. Russia had already sent two cosmonauts into orbit at this time. In the many following years Russian and America race each other for space superiority. Much later Russia and America have finally started cooperating in Earth's adventures into space. Competition is good, but collaboration can by so much better. Today, Open Source stands as one of the ultimate examples of collaboration. No boundaries, no borders, no barriers. As an example of this collaboration, we are proud to announce: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Now Available ================================== The Fedora Project announces the third release of the Fedora Core 5 development cycle, available for the i386, x86_64, and PPC/PPC64 architectures. Beware that Test releases are recommended only for Linux experts/enthusiasts or for technology evaluation, as many parts are likely to be broken and the rate of change is rapid. http://fedora.redhat.com/About/schedule/ Final is scheduled for release March 15. This aggressive schedule makes vitally important your help in testing, reporting and suggesting fixes for bugs. Please direct bugs to http://bugzilla.redhat.com, Product Fedora Core, Version fc5test3. As always, be sure that your bug is not already fixed by updates and search for existing bugs before filing. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Core/ReleaseFreezeProcess/ During the continual freeze process, very few changes will be introduced. This is to prevent new bugs from surfacing and to ensure that Fedora Core 5 is the best release we can make it. Rawhide reports over the next three weeks should be very sparse. Please do test the few updates extensively. Thanks to all in the Fedora Project who have contributed to this release. Your continued efforts are what makes Fedora possible. Downloads ========= DVD, CD and network installation are available. Please read the Important Warnings below in this announcement for more details. http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ The recommended method of download is via BitTorrent from this site. http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html HTTP, FTP, and RSYNC downloads are available from Fedora Project mirrors listed above. Note that not all mirrors may be synced at this time. Notable Features of FC5 Test 3 ============================== * Xen, now with x86_64! * Package selection within the installer has been reenabled. * Rebuilt again on later gcc4.1 snapshot for performance and security * Hibernate should be functional on a wide variety of hardware again (use pm-hibernate to test) * PPC Install CDs are bootable once again * Unified SRPM set instead of one per arch * Lots of bugfixes from Test 2 release testing * 1600+ Extras packages conveniently available via yum http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/ Latest version of release notes are available from here. (not yet uploaded, will be soon. Important Warnings ================== http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Test3CommonProblems Please see this page for an updated list of important notes for FC5test3 in order to avoid common problems and troubleshoot problems that you may see. 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What I wanted to ask you guys about, is BitTorrent, which should be relevant given that Test 3 is now out: http://torrent.fedoraproject.org The question: Which ports should I open to run BT efficiently (and securely)? My current firewall is rather tight, with as few ports as possibly open, including the range 6881:6999 TCP source and destination ports, plus 33301:34999 on TCP source (not sure if I need those). However, I still get loads of junk in my /var/log/message from my iptables setup whenever I run BT. Also, the up and down speeds are rather unimpressive; both about 10-20 KB/s (I'm on a 3 Mb/s cable modem line). Should I open more ports? Should I open UDP? Regards, Havard -- Havard Rast Blok Web: http://hblok.net GPG/PGP key: http://hblok.net/gpg.txt -- This email has been scanned for viruses & spam by Decna as - www.decna.no Denne e-posten er sjekket for virus & spam av Decna as - www.decna.no From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Mon Feb 20 18:55:22 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:55:22 -0500 Subject: BitTorrent ports? In-Reply-To: <51811.84.114.208.90.1140461069.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> References: <51811.84.114.208.90.1140461069.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> Message-ID: <1140461722.23624.37.camel@cutter> > My current firewall is rather tight, with as few ports as possibly open, > including the range 6881:6999 TCP source and destination ports, plus > 33301:34999 on TCP source (not sure if I need those). However, I still get > loads of junk in my /var/log/message from my iptables setup whenever I run > BT. Also, the up and down speeds are rather unimpressive; both about 10-20 > KB/s (I'm on a 3 Mb/s cable modem line). Should I open more ports? Should > I open UDP? Bittorrent needs to be able to talk to any host that is in the swarm. So you need to allow connections from anywhere on ports 6881-6999 tcp What sort of things are you seeing in your logs? -sv From gsimpson at mountaincable.net Mon Feb 20 19:03:50 2006 From: gsimpson at mountaincable.net (glenn) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:03:50 -0500 Subject: BitTorrent ports? In-Reply-To: <51811.84.114.208.90.1140461069.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> References: <51811.84.114.208.90.1140461069.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> Message-ID: <43FA1296.9030900@mountaincable.net> Havard Rast Blok wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm new to the Fedora Test List, so I thought a brief introduction would > be appropriate: I'm a European software developer and tester currently > working in the QA department of Altova (the XMLSpy company). I've been using > Linux since about Red Hat 5.x and made the switch completely a year before > WinXP. My current pet projects include rememberjava.com and > jbookmarks.sf.net. > > What I wanted to ask you guys about, is BitTorrent, which should be > relevant given that Test 3 is now out: > http://torrent.fedoraproject.org > > The question: Which ports should I open to run BT efficiently (and securely)? > > My current firewall is rather tight, with as few ports as possibly open, > including the range 6881:6999 TCP source and destination ports, plus > 33301:34999 on TCP source (not sure if I need those). However, I still get > loads of junk in my /var/log/message from my iptables setup whenever I run > BT. Also, the up and down speeds are rather unimpressive; both about 10-20 > KB/s (I'm on a 3 Mb/s cable modem line). Should I open more ports? Should > I open UDP? > I an using BT and the only ports I have open are the 6881:6999 ports that you are using. I look at "netstat -t" to see how many TCP connections are open simultaneous. The BT speed can be disappointing. I am on a service that should let me do 20 KB/s up and abt 550 KB/s down, but while I have been sucking the current 32 bit DVD image, I have been shipping abt 17 KB/s and rcving from 80 - 140 KB/s. The latter perf is disappointing, but IT IS WORKING :-) I would not open any more ports for BT, if you are trying to manage security. Good Luck. -- Glenn From mandreiana.lists at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 19:27:30 2006 From: mandreiana.lists at gmail.com (Marius Andreiana) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:27:30 +0200 Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? Message-ID: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> Hi all, I've got a bunch of notices with FC5 test1 and test2 bugs being closed as there have been a lot of updates meanwhile. For me, as a tester which monitors some of the bugs and find some time once in a weekend to do some triage, this seemed plain rude. If there are too many bugs overwhelming developers then the cause should be addressed (better code with fewer bugs, which means more resources devoted to coding which are unavailable now) or find alternative solutions, where fedora testers could help. Closing all the reported bugs won't make them go away, but will make testers go away. With the current bugzilla setup, the number of reported bugs would have decreased as more testers do triage and see if they are still valid in rawhide, or they could confirm it until a developer finally looks at it, or the reporter might update it with new info. A practice from openoffice bugzilla could be borrowed - bugs reported by usual bugzilla acounts are by default UNCONFIRMED, and only fedora testers can set them to NEW. If there are too many bugs, a developer could ignore UNCONFIRMED ones. I also noticed Dave closes kernel bugs with each kernel release, asking people to retest. While this might save developers time, it could also leave real bugs closed as reporter might get tired of re-confirming a bug for 3 times. Take for example this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=174968 In FC5test1, looks like the bttv driver had some problems, causing tvtuners to stop working. A few updates later, it worked again. The causes for not working and working again are unknown, therefore it could happen on every new release. Just cross fingers and hope for the best! To conclude, please don't close bug reports without researching them first. If Red Hat staff doesn't have time for it, please ask for triage help on fedora-test list, even with weekly themes, such as GNOME triage week (including searching for upstream bugs), kernel week etc - just post the link to the bugzilla query for all the required components. Thanks and looking forward for a better FC5 release! -- Marius Andreiana From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 20 19:33:52 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:03:52 +0530 Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? In-Reply-To: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> References: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> Message-ID: <43FA19A0.10904@fedoraproject.org> Marius Andreiana wrote: >Hi all, > >I've got a bunch of notices with FC5 test1 and test2 bugs being closed >as there have been a lot of updates meanwhile. For me, as a tester which >monitors some of the bugs and find some time once in a weekend to do >some triage, this seemed plain rude. > Yep. Just bad mistake from me. I am pretty much reopening all of the closed reports. Help in triaging is welcome though. fedora-triage-list and #fedora-bugs are there. Any friday interested testers can hop in . Refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers -- Rahul From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Mon Feb 20 19:56:39 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:56:39 +1100 Subject: Someting Strange - no gnome-session! In-Reply-To: <1140453779.17263.0.camel@localhost> References: <1140451052.12353.3.camel@localhost> <1140453779.17263.0.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <43FA1EF7.20500@bigpond.net.au> tatxe wrote: > El lun, 20--2006 a las 16:57 +0100, tatxe escribi?: > > Silly me :-D I already know why... don't make an automated yum > remove :-D Can you tell us what command you used; it still might require following up ! >> Hi all: >> >> In the last upgrade, after restarting the computer I've lost Gnome :D... >> I mean, I have X server but a primitive version of windowm manager not >> with gnome. >> >> I'ts normal or only happens to me? I achieved the same twm window manager (ie uninstall of gnome-session and friends). Since I don't like evolution and pup was wanting to update it I did a yum remove evolution (I may have done it with pirut!). Following that I ran pup again, and got all updates. The result was no gnome/nautilus desktop available in the session selection dialog. This seems like a problem on the part of yum or depenencies, in that I couldn't remove a package without removing a number of packages I really needed. DaveT. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Mon Feb 20 20:01:51 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:01:51 +1100 Subject: how to use an older gcc ? In-Reply-To: <1140455500.6074.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140455500.6074.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43FA202F.7050908@bigpond.net.au> Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > Hi, > I have to compile qemu 0.8 RPM on a fedora core 4 box. > FC4 comes with gcc4 but qemu wont compile with it. > > How should I do to get temporarily a gcc 3.3.6 just to compile it then > get back to my gcc 4? > > I lost my FC4/FC3 CDs, would you know a (FTP if possibe) repository > where I could find a gcc 3.3.6 rpm? Take a look at the mirror part of the fedora website; from memory it lists more than 50 mirrors. DaveT From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 20:18:00 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:18:00 -0500 Subject: Someting Strange - no gnome-session! In-Reply-To: <43FA1EF7.20500@bigpond.net.au> References: <1140451052.12353.3.camel@localhost> <1140453779.17263.0.camel@localhost> <43FA1EF7.20500@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <604aa7910602201218l355025e1q7faf9c8c00fa812c@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/06, David Timms wrote: > This seems like a problem on the part of yum or depenencies, in that > I couldn't remove a package without removing a number of packages I > really needed. Unless you can give us specific details as to what you exactly did to start the uninstall of packages.. there isn't much to discuss as to whether or not there is a "problem" that needs to be fixed. yum remove evolution for me does not attempt to remove gnome-session similarly on my system yum remove pirut(the package that includes pup) causes no obviously egregious removals that would cause gnome-session to be uninstalled. So unless you can give us a specific set of actions which cause the removal of gnome-session, there really isn't much to discussion. The packages you present as potential problems can be removed from my system without a problem. -jef From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Mon Feb 20 20:23:00 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:23:00 +1100 Subject: BitTorrent ports? In-Reply-To: <43FA1296.9030900@mountaincable.net> References: <51811.84.114.208.90.1140461069.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> <43FA1296.9030900@mountaincable.net> Message-ID: <43FA2524.8070603@bigpond.net.au> glenn wrote: > Havard Rast Blok wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm new to the Fedora Test List, so I thought a brief introduction would >> be appropriate: I'm a European software developer and tester currently >> working in the QA department of Altova (the XMLSpy company). I've been >> using >> Linux since about Red Hat 5.x and made the switch completely a year >> before >> WinXP. My current pet projects include rememberjava.com and >> jbookmarks.sf.net. >> >> What I wanted to ask you guys about, is BitTorrent, which should be >> relevant given that Test 3 is now out: >> http://torrent.fedoraproject.org >> >> The question: Which ports should I open to run BT efficiently (and >> securely)? >> >> My current firewall is rather tight, with as few ports as possibly open, >> including the range 6881:6999 TCP source and destination ports, plus >> 33301:34999 on TCP source (not sure if I need those). However, I still >> get >> loads of junk in my /var/log/message from my iptables setup whenever I >> run >> BT. Also, the up and down speeds are rather unimpressive; both about >> 10-20 >> KB/s (I'm on a 3 Mb/s cable modem line). Should I open more ports? Should The cable speed is really a peak speed capability while communicating with a local / fast mirror. Once connections are going all over the place (peer2peer) this speed probably wont be achievable. I find azureus bittorent client to suit my needs. It includes things like: . firewall test . statistics and graphs on in/out throughput . azureus wide and per torrent upload and download rate limits . total and per torrent no of connection limits all in a nice GUI. It is common to find is that the outbound data will be flooding your internet connection, making it difficult for download ack packets to make it out your connection (so the peer sending you data doesn't continue until your ack gets through). Limit upload rate to about half your upload bandwidth, and download to 90% (if adsl 512 then rate capability is 400kb/sec, *.9 =360). Also, a lot of home routers have trouble because of the nature of their inbuilt firewalls tracking connection states. They have a table of a fixed size, and once the table is full, they have to drop/stop connections to keep operating. Indeed, some router only last a few days or hours once peer2peer clients are operating within the network. So the other helpful thing to do is limit the number of connections total to a smaller number. I find both of these things improve bittorrent and gnutella peer2peer speeds. It does seem weird that limiting your bandwidth can increase the achievable speed (it's sort of QOS). DaveT. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Mon Feb 20 20:23:14 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:23:14 +1100 Subject: BitTorrent ports? In-Reply-To: <43FA1296.9030900@mountaincable.net> References: <51811.84.114.208.90.1140461069.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> <43FA1296.9030900@mountaincable.net> Message-ID: <43FA2532.7000403@bigpond.net.au> glenn wrote: > Havard Rast Blok wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm new to the Fedora Test List, so I thought a brief introduction would >> be appropriate: I'm a European software developer and tester currently >> working in the QA department of Altova (the XMLSpy company). I've been >> using >> Linux since about Red Hat 5.x and made the switch completely a year >> before >> WinXP. My current pet projects include rememberjava.com and >> jbookmarks.sf.net. >> >> What I wanted to ask you guys about, is BitTorrent, which should be >> relevant given that Test 3 is now out: >> http://torrent.fedoraproject.org >> >> The question: Which ports should I open to run BT efficiently (and >> securely)? >> >> My current firewall is rather tight, with as few ports as possibly open, >> including the range 6881:6999 TCP source and destination ports, plus >> 33301:34999 on TCP source (not sure if I need those). However, I still >> get >> loads of junk in my /var/log/message from my iptables setup whenever I >> run >> BT. Also, the up and down speeds are rather unimpressive; both about >> 10-20 >> KB/s (I'm on a 3 Mb/s cable modem line). Should I open more ports? Should The cable speed is really a peak speed capability while communicating with a local / fast mirror. Once connections are going all over the place (peer2peer) this speed probably wont be achievable. I find azureus bittorent client to suit my needs. It includes things like: . firewall test . statistics and graphs on in/out throughput . azureus wide and per torrent upload and download rate limits . total and per torrent no of connection limits all in a nice GUI. It is common to find is that the outbound data will be flooding your internet connection, making it difficult for download ack packets to make it out your connection (so the peer sending you data doesn't continue until your ack gets through). Limit upload rate to about half your upload bandwidth, and download to 90% (if adsl 512 then rate capability is 400kb/sec, *.9 =360). Also, a lot of home routers have trouble because of the nature of their inbuilt firewalls tracking connection states. They have a table of a fixed size, and once the table is full, they have to drop/stop connections to keep operating. Indeed, some router only last a few days or hours once peer2peer clients are operating within the network. So the other helpful thing to do is limit the number of connections total to a smaller number. I find both of these things improve bittorrent and gnutella peer2peer speeds. It does seem weird that limiting your bandwidth can increase the achievable speed (it's sort of QOS). DaveT. From justin.conover at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 20:24:14 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:24:14 -0600 Subject: how to use an older gcc ? In-Reply-To: <43FA202F.7050908@bigpond.net.au> References: <1140455500.6074.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43FA202F.7050908@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: On 2/20/06, David Timms wrote: > > Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > > Hi, > > I have to compile qemu 0.8 RPM on a fedora core 4 box. > > FC4 comes with gcc4 but qemu wont compile with it. > > > > How should I do to get temporarily a gcc 3.3.6 just to compile it then > > get back to my gcc 4? > > > > I lost my FC4/FC3 CDs, would you know a (FTP if possibe) repository > > where I could find a gcc 3.3.6 rpm? > Take a look at the mirror part of the fedora website; from memory it > lists more than 50 mirrors. > DaveT > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Look at compat-gcc and see if that version will help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 20 20:30:40 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:30:40 -0500 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060220203040.GA9910@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Bill Nottingham (notting at redhat.com) said: > DI Mario Bruckschwaiger (mario at targetdevelopment.at) said: > > Jon Savage wrote: > > >>On my system this is an selinux issue: > > >> > > > > > >Same here- works fine w/ selinux turned off. > > > > kudzu does not work on my system (x86_64) with selinux turned off. > > For those that see the kudzu segfault, what sort of video hardware > do you have? If you're seeing this happen, please run: http://people.redhat.com/notting/ddc-fu.2 and let me know if: a) it crashes b) it displays useful information about your monitor Bill From dwalsh at redhat.com Mon Feb 20 20:43:18 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:43:18 -0500 Subject: Issue with selinux and swapfiles in FC5? In-Reply-To: <43F54C06.60805@gmail.com> References: <43F49963.8070801@redhat.com> <43F54C06.60805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43FA29E6.1070803@redhat.com> Doug Fordham wrote: > Fabio Comolli wrote: >> Hi. >> >> >>> On 2/16/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >>> >>>> Fabio Mollify wrote: >>>> >>> Who in the hell is Fabio Mollify??????? >>> >>> >> >> forgot the :-) >> >> >>>>> Hi. I found this line in my logs: >>>>> >>>>> audit(1140033999.212:6): avc: denied { write } for pid=2171 >>>>> comm="swapon" name="swapfile" dev=sda2 ino=67052 >>>>> scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 >>>>> tcontext=system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=file >>>>> >>>>> I'm just experimenting with selinux, so I set it up in permissive >>>>> mode >>>>> and the swap was activated. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to get rid of it? (or can it be considered harmless?) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>> Fabio >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> chcon -t swapfile_t swapfile >>>> >>>> should fix the problem. (swapfile_t needs to be made a customizable >>>> type. Also needs a man page) >>>> >>>> >> >> Unfortunately it didn't work: >> >> root at kepler ~]# ls -Z /swapfile >> -rw-r--r-- root root system_u:object_r:swapfile_t /swapfile >> >> but the warning in dmesg is still there: >> >> audit(1140109455.801:6): avc: denied { read } for pid=2165 >> comm="swapon" name="swapfile" dev=sda2 ino=67052 >> scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 >> tcontext=system_u:object_r:swapfile_t:s0 tclass=file >> audit(1140109455.810:7): avc: denied { write } for pid=2165 >> comm="swapon" name="swapfile" dev=sda2 ino=67052 >> scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 >> tcontext=system_u:object_r:swapfile_t:s0 tclass=file >> >> Should I try: chcon -t fsadm_t /swapfile ? >> >> Thanks again, >> Fabio >> >> > After today's update, in addition to the swapfile entry: > audit(1140147570.846:4): avc: denied { write } for pid=1050 > comm="mount" name="blkid.tab" dev=dm-0 ino=2127396 > scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 tclass=file > audit(1140147572.454:5): avc: denied { write } for pid=1099 > comm="swapon" name="blkid.tab" dev=dm-0 ino=2127396 > scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 > tcontext=user_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 tclass=file This is mislabeled and we are working to find the source of the mislabeling. restorecon /etc/blkid.tab will fix it. > Adding 1048568k swap on /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01. Priority:-1 > extents:1 across:1048568k > > ...also, have the following in dmesg: > > audit(1140129521.520:2): avc: denied { write } for pid=349 > comm="restorecon" > name="[952]" dev=pipefs ino=952 > scontext=system_u:system_r:restorecon_t:s0 > tcontext=system_u:system_r:restorecon_t:s0 tclass=fifo_file Fixed in latest policy > audit(1140129521.520:3): avc: denied { read } for pid=348 > comm="restorecon" name="[952]" dev=pipefs ino=952 > scontext=system_u:system_r:restorecon_t:s0 > tcontext=system_u:system_r:restorecon_t:s0 tclass=fifo_file > > > audit(1140147577.742:6): avc: denied { read } for pid=1131 > comm="readahead" name="display" dev=ramfs ino=3278 > scontext=system_u:system_r:readahead_t:s0 > tcontext=system_u:object_r:ramfs_t:s0 tclass=file > audit(1140147577.742:7): avc: denied { read } for pid=1131 > comm="readahead" name="rhgb-console" dev=ramfs ino=3350 > scontext=system_u:system_r:readahead_t:s0 > tcontext=system_u:object_r:ramfs_t:s0 tclass=fifo_file > > Fixed in latest policy From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Mon Feb 20 20:52:14 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:52:14 +1100 Subject: Someting Strange - no gnome-session! In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602201218l355025e1q7faf9c8c00fa812c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1140451052.12353.3.camel@localhost> <1140453779.17263.0.camel@localhost> <43FA1EF7.20500@bigpond.net.au> <604aa7910602201218l355025e1q7faf9c8c00fa812c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43FA2BFE.6090600@bigpond.net.au> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/20/06, David Timms wrote: >> This seems like a problem on the part of yum or depenencies, in that >> I couldn't remove a package without removing a number of packages I >> really needed. > > Unless you can give us specific details as to what you exactly did to > start the uninstall of packages.. there isn't much to discuss as to > whether or not there is a "problem" that needs to be fixed. >>>Can you tell us what command you used; it still might require following up ! That's why I asked tatxe, because neither my command history nor /var/log/yum.log list the package as being removed. But with weird stuff on fedora-test/devel, I assumed that it wasn't my fault, until some days later (at which point I don't remember what I did exactly nor even how). from rpmpkgs.1: @2006-02-11 gnome-session-2.12.0-5.i386.rpm from rpmpkgs: @2006-02-21 gnome-session-2.13.91-1.i386.rpm In yum.log: Feb 12 10:35:42 Installed: gftp.i386 1:2.0.18-3.2 .. no match for gnome-session between above and below Feb 20 22:19:34 Updated: gnome-session.i386 2.13.91-1 Note: last night feb20, I worked out what was going on (gnome-session...rpm not listed in rpm -qa|grep session|sort, but was on another machine. In pup.log: no mention of it; it's almost useless since there is no date/time and seems limited in size :( I was getting normal desktop (gnome/nautilus) during the week, stopped working after a reboot on Sunday after pup updates. (machine is off overnight most days). > yum remove evolution for me does not attempt to remove gnome-session Perhaps I unselected any evolution* named items within pup, or maybe I did a yum remove evolution*, I just don't remember. Any hints at finding / getting at the info regarding this stored on my disk ? > similarly on my system yum remove pirut(the package that includes pup) > causes no obviously egregious removals that would cause > gnome-session to be uninstalled. > > So unless you can give us a specific set of actions which cause the > removal of gnome-session, there really isn't much to discussion. The > packages you present as potential problems can be removed from my > system without a problem. Funny however, how at least two people managed to achieve the same thing :-) DaveT. From nalin at redhat.com Mon Feb 20 21:07:18 2006 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:07:18 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: gnupg-1.4.2.1-3 Message-ID: <200602202107.k1KL7I101415@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-121 2006-02-20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : gnupg Version : 1.4.2.1 Release : 3 Summary : A GNU utility for secure communication and data storage. Description : GnuPG (GNU Privacy Guard) is a GNU utility for encrypting data and creating digital signatures. GnuPG has advanced key management capabilities and is compliant with the proposed OpenPGP Internet standard described in RFC2440. Since GnuPG doesn't use any patented algorithm, it is not compatible with any version of PGP2 (PGP2.x uses only IDEA for symmetric-key encryption, which is patented worldwide). --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: The previous update, to version 1.4.2.1, could produce errors when gpg attempted to read certain keyrings produced by earlier versions of GnuPG. This update includes a fix for that bug. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai - 1.4.2.1-3 - add patch from David Shaw to fix error reading keyrings created with older versions of GnuPG (Enrico Scholz, #182029) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 4fdce4a9f141d5a72a71156dedeb28245140df2c SRPMS/gnupg-1.4.2.1-3.src.rpm c87ca2ffa33648fc2b0df9bb23589af8f0755446 ppc/gnupg-1.4.2.1-3.ppc.rpm a820dc8ad2e1277a9ccd37c9197854933d19b1e6 ppc/debug/gnupg-debuginfo-1.4.2.1-3.ppc.rpm 22fbc4d7c60cff64a3d2f2e72e971083fe52846a x86_64/gnupg-1.4.2.1-3.x86_64.rpm 9cc0a6ff63fe83f1245d6f523a25ac62c6befb6e x86_64/debug/gnupg-debuginfo-1.4.2.1-3.x86_64.rpm 0ab197b54b885c47700807960081150300c790c8 i386/gnupg-1.4.2.1-3.i386.rpm 4480afb1e4415ef59e09f814a6136d22dbe3e59f i386/debug/gnupg-debuginfo-1.4.2.1-3.i386.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 21:08:20 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:08:20 -0500 Subject: Someting Strange - no gnome-session! In-Reply-To: <43FA2BFE.6090600@bigpond.net.au> References: <1140451052.12353.3.camel@localhost> <1140453779.17263.0.camel@localhost> <43FA1EF7.20500@bigpond.net.au> <604aa7910602201218l355025e1q7faf9c8c00fa812c@mail.gmail.com> <43FA2BFE.6090600@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <604aa7910602201308i36f3ddb1y554cc1a43f8b5228@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/06, David Timms wrote: > Funny however, how at least two people managed to achieve the same thing :-) its not funny.. its disturbing. Its doubly disturbing when people can't remember exactly what they did and make accusations that there is a problem in the software. This could easily be local admin errors for both people. But we can't know for sure if you can't be sure as to what actions you took to get into this situation. yum remove "evolution*" will definitely cause a problem because its an absolutely unwise thing to do. The evolution-data-server package is a piece of commonly used library infrastructure for gnome applications and is not a subpackage of the evolution application. -jef From justin.conover at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 21:24:28 2006 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:24:28 -0600 Subject: aixgl and gconf question Message-ID: [justin at kainos ~]$ cat aixgl-compositor-on.sh #!/bin/bash gconftool-2 -s /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager --type bool true [justin at kainos ~]$ cat aixgl-compositor-off.sh #!/bin/bash gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool false Is there anyway of getting something like that in /usr/bin/ for metacity? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gerry From gstool at earthlink.net Mon Feb 20 21:56:18 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:56:18 -0600 Subject: FC5T3 - Gnome logout no longer has save session selector Message-ID: <1140472578.4616.1.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> In FC5T3, the gnome logout dialog no longer has a selector to save the session for restoring at next login. Before I report this as a bug, is this a new "feature?" Gerry From gstool at earthlink.net Mon Feb 20 22:01:07 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:01:07 -0600 Subject: FC5T3 - Search seems unusable Message-ID: <1140472867.4616.7.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> The new Places > Search seems non-functional. When I enter "fedora" into the Find: field, it first says the daemon is not running. After I start the daemon with the provided button, it then returns No results were found. Then, while I was writing this, it came up with a list of Conversations that it found - from Evolution posts to this list. How is one supposed to find files with this facility? (I know that I can use locate from the CLI, but this gui search facility has always been useful in the past. If this is a bug, I'll be happy to report it - to what component? Thanks. Gerry From katzj at redhat.com Mon Feb 20 22:04:18 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:04:18 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 - Search seems unusable In-Reply-To: <1140472867.4616.7.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> References: <1140472867.4616.7.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> Message-ID: <1140473058.3656.6.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 16:01 -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > How is one supposed to find files with this facility? (I know that I can > use locate from the CLI, but this gui search facility has always been > useful in the past. > > If this is a bug, I'll be happy to report it - to what component? The bug is that beagled isn't running in the session by default. I think it's filed, but am not 100% certain. Probably worth checking Jeremy From gstool at earthlink.net Mon Feb 20 22:38:06 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:38:06 -0600 Subject: FC5T3 - Search seems unusable In-Reply-To: <1140473058.3656.6.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> References: <1140472867.4616.7.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> <1140473058.3656.6.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140475087.4616.10.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 17:04 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 16:01 -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > > How is one supposed to find files with this facility? (I know that I can > > use locate from the CLI, but this gui search facility has always been > > useful in the past. > > > > If this is a bug, I'll be happy to report it - to what component? > > The bug is that beagled isn't running in the session by default. I > think it's filed, but am not 100% certain. Probably worth checking > Couldn't find an open bug - filed as #182191 Gerry From jim at jbsys.com Mon Feb 20 22:39:48 2006 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:39:48 -0700 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com><2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com><43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at><20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060220203040.GA9910@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <00b101c6366e$8f24e4a0$0a01a8c0@jbsys> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Nottingham" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:30 PM Subject: Re: kudzu and haldaemon after updates > Bill Nottingham (notting at redhat.com) said: >> DI Mario Bruckschwaiger (mario at targetdevelopment.at) said: >> > Jon Savage wrote: >> > >>On my system this is an selinux issue: >> > >> >> > > >> > >Same here- works fine w/ selinux turned off. >> > >> > kudzu does not work on my system (x86_64) with selinux turned off. >> >> For those that see the kudzu segfault, what sort of video hardware >> do you have? > > If you're seeing this happen, please run: > > http://people.redhat.com/notting/ddc-fu.2 > > and let me know if: > > a) it crashes > b) it displays useful information about your monitor > > Bill Here is my crash info: AMD X86_64 NVIDIA FX 5200 kernel is 1955. Kudzu abort at line 23. - class: VIDEO bus: DDC detached: 0 desc: "NVIDIA Corporation NV34 Board - p162-1nz" mem: 131072 - class: MONITOR bus: DDC detached: 0 desc: "CMC 17" AD" id: CMO7801 horizSyncMin: 30 horizSyncMax: 82 vertRefreshMin: 50 vertRefreshMax: 75 mode: 1280x1024 mode: 1152x864 > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From grejigl-gnomeprevod at yahoo.ca Mon Feb 20 22:49:45 2006 From: grejigl-gnomeprevod at yahoo.ca (Igor MiletiÄ) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:49:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: FC5T3 - Search seems unusable In-Reply-To: <1140473058.3656.6.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060220224945.29010.qmail@web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jeremy Katz wrote: On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 16:01 -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > How is one supposed to find files with this facility? (I know that I can > use locate from the CLI, but this gui search facility has always been > useful in the past. > > If this is a bug, I'll be happy to report it - to what component? The bug is that beagled isn't running in the session by default. I think it's filed, but am not 100% certain. Probably worth checking On related topic. It appears that beagle is forgetting all the files it indexed. If I leave computer to run for few days, it will index everything and search tool will work as intended. However, once I restart everything seems to start from beginning. (i.e. a seach that worked right after reboot will fail in new session) Is it supposed to be this way? Igor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim at jbsys.com Mon Feb 20 23:02:21 2006 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:02:21 -0700 Subject: FC5T3 problems Message-ID: <001201c63671$b58eb230$0a01a8c0@jbsys> Some problems with FC3T5 install: 1. PATA drives on sata_promise controller still not recognized. 2. Firstboot hangs at Video configuration screen. Had to reset system. I also had to configure video, sound, and users manually after reboot. 3. Kudzu still aborts on startup. 4. On firstboot saw an error flash by about sendmail.cf file date? 5. Yumdownloader stilll aborts. 6. ddcprobe aborts. FC5T2 install was better for me. I think if the Kudzu/video problem can be solved, it might be OK. System is K8V-SE motherboard, NVIDIA FX5200, AMD 3500+ X86_64. Jim From jkeating at j2solutions.net Mon Feb 20 23:11:44 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:11:44 -0800 Subject: FC5T3 problems In-Reply-To: <001201c63671$b58eb230$0a01a8c0@jbsys> References: <001201c63671$b58eb230$0a01a8c0@jbsys> Message-ID: <1140477104.17286.57.camel@ender> On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 16:02 -0700, James C. Bevier wrote: > Some problems with FC3T5 install: > > 1. 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It doesn't open on i386. Jim From bloch at verdurin.com Tue Feb 21 00:14:08 2006 From: bloch at verdurin.com (bloch at verdurin.com) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:14:08 +0000 Subject: Excessive CPU problem in FC5t3 Message-ID: <20060221001408.GA15354@bloch.smith.man.ac.uk> This evening I put FC5t3 on a Vaio S1XP, previously running FC4. The desktop is almost unusable because of severe system load spikes, meaning that windows are unresponsive for ~10 seconds at a time. Text consoles don't seem to be affected, so I don't think it's a kernel issue. Happy to report a bug, but I'm not sure what the component would be? From nalin at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 00:16:05 2006 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:16:05 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <20060221001605.GB25007@redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 06:16:11AM +0100, David Nielsen wrote: > ons, 08 02 2006 kl. 23:05 -0500, skrev Ray Strode: > When trying to run this I get the following error message: > > spififity: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot > enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied > > according to Google this is because there are known textrels in the DSO > and > chcon system_u:object_r:texrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 > > should fix it, however it doesn't. > > Anyone have an idea as to an easy fix? I suggested enabling allow_execstack before, but dwalsh set me straight. The SELinux type on /usr/bin/Xair should match that of /usr/bin/Xorg (which can already use an executable stack), so chcon -t xserver_exec_t /usr/bin/Xorg is the more correct way to fix this. Cheers, Nalin From gbofspam at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 00:41:21 2006 From: gbofspam at gmail.com (gb spam) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:41:21 -0500 Subject: how to use an older gcc ? In-Reply-To: <1140455500.6074.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140455500.6074.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0602201641r1c6db1f9hdc7bfa3b9ce0cb30@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/06, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > Hi, > I have to compile qemu 0.8 RPM on a fedora core 4 box. > FC4 comes with gcc4 but qemu wont compile with it. > > How should I do to get temporarily a gcc 3.3.6 just to compile it then > get back to my gcc 4? > > I lost my FC4/FC3 CDs, would you know a (FTP if possibe) repository > where I could find a gcc 3.3.6 rpm? > > -- > A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source & GPL). > Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better. > http://www.cps-project.org for downloads & documentation. > Free hosting of CPS groupware: http://www.objectis.org. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Install the gcc version 3.2 (courtesy of yum) and run the configure script with ./configure --cc=gcc32 --host-cc=gcc32 From grabka999 at interia.pl Tue Feb 21 00:51:01 2006 From: grabka999 at interia.pl (Marcin Grabda) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:51:01 +0100 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43FA63F5.4060202@interia.pl> Bill Nottingham wrote: > Michel Salim (michel.salim at gmail.com) said: > >> Davyd Madeley has released his latest GNOME preview: >> http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/ >> >> and it has some interesting features, such as the new fast-user >> switching interface resembling OS X's. I recall previous incarnations >> of this feature being explicitly removed from Fedora's GNOME; would >> that explain why as of now this feature is absent from the RPMs in >> -devel ? >> > > Yes - basically, without finding a good, solid solution to device > ownership (groups aren't it), having fast user switching on is > very problematic. > > Bill > > It is really disappointing. Windows XP has such feature since 5 years. Couldn't we provide option to disable/enable this when needed? Removing it is not a good way. Marcin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kliknij po wiecej! >>> http://link.interia.pl/f18ed From jkeating at j2solutions.net Tue Feb 21 00:52:34 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:52:34 -0800 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <43FA63F5.4060202@interia.pl> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43FA63F5.4060202@interia.pl> Message-ID: <1140483154.17286.68.camel@ender> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 01:51 +0100, Marcin Grabda wrote: > It is really disappointing. Windows XP has such feature since 5 years. > Couldn't we provide option to disable/enable this when needed? Removing > it is not a good way. Windows XP does a lot of really really ugly things that we shouldn't copy. This being one of them. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Tue Feb 21 01:04:34 2006 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:04:34 -0500 Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0602171529k4e2fe4a9ja8fc8eb479d7fbd2@mail.gmail.com> References: <43EB2B39.1050106@rogers.com> <1139486626.4112.34.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <4c4ba1530602090640t312aa975y78a170c4b3e4c362@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0602171529k4e2fe4a9ja8fc8eb479d7fbd2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43FA6722.7020908@rogers.com> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 2/9/06, Tom London wrote: > >> There is a bug in the vmware-config.pl script that is exposed by >> changes to the newer kernel headers. >> >> I've reported this to vmware: >> http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=31877&tstart=0 >> >> Here is the patch described there: >> >> --- vmware-config.pl.old 2005-12-15 21:55:24.000000000 -0800 >> +++ vmware-config.pl 2006-02-04 16:53:06.000000000 -0800 >> @@ -1969,8 +1969,8 @@ >> . ' -E - | ' . shell_string($gHelper{'grep'}) . ' ' >> . shell_string($pattern)); >> chomp($header_page_offset); >> - $header_page_offset =~ s/^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,}).*$/$1/; >> - if ($header_page_offset =~ /[0-9a-fA-F]{8,}/) { >> + if ($header_page_offset =~ /^$pattern \(?0x([0-9a-fA-F]{8,})/) { >> + $header_page_offset = $1; >> # We found a valid page offset >> if (defined($gSystem{'page_offset'}) and >> not (lc($header_page_offset) eq lc($gSystem{'page_offset'}))) { >> >> > I do have the same thing: > > In file included from :2: > /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1948_FC5/build/include/asm/page.h:71:23: error: > mach_page.h: No such file or directory > What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running > kernel? [/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1948_FC5/build/include] > > I did patch the vmware-config.pl. But still the same issue. Ive > attached my patch to this mail. Is there something wrong with it? > > >> BTW, if you have not already done so, you may also need to make minor >> changes in the makefiles that get run by vmware-config.pl. Described >> in vmware discussion group here: >> >> http://www.vmware.com/community/message.jspa?messageID=337443#337443 >> >> [You'll know you'll need to do this if vmware-config.pl compiles fail....] >> >> > > Did you untar the two files and make the necessary changes to the module c files. Then re-tar them? I can confirm that the two patches worked just fine for me. Dwaine From linxt at comcast.net Tue Feb 21 01:06:48 2006 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:06:48 -0800 Subject: FC5T3? Message-ID: <200602201706.48717.linxt@comcast.net> I'm seeing posts about FC5T3 on the list but when I try to use any of the mirrors to download I keep having problems. Some say I don't have the right permissions and show (?) for owner and group, others just show error transferring and disconnect. Using gFTP which has always worked since FC2 and the same mirrors as before. Obviously someone has been able to get the files since they are posting about problems. My favorite mirror, 'limestone.uoregon.edu' is only showing the DVD version, no CD isos. Is this just a case that a few people were able to get hold of the downloads before the "official" release date which is posted as 22/02/06? Thanks, Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA From selinux at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 01:15:42 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:15:42 -0800 Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? In-Reply-To: <43FA6722.7020908@rogers.com> References: <43EB2B39.1050106@rogers.com> <1139486626.4112.34.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <4c4ba1530602090640t312aa975y78a170c4b3e4c362@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0602171529k4e2fe4a9ja8fc8eb479d7fbd2@mail.gmail.com> <43FA6722.7020908@rogers.com> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602201715w74a37f93g1146dd0a2f95d139@mail.gmail.com> This is a 'new' vmware-any-any patch: http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/vmware-any-any-update97.tar.gz Petr (VMWare Linux guy) claims it fixes recent problems. I have not tested it, however. tom From selinux at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 01:20:13 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:20:13 -0800 Subject: FC5T3? In-Reply-To: <200602201706.48717.linxt@comcast.net> References: <200602201706.48717.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602201720w2a006744yb20af8b56947e0dd@mail.gmail.com> A snippet from the official announcement is below (Notice the last sentence). BitTorrent worked just fine for me..... Downloads ========= DVD, CD and network installation are available. Please read the Important Warnings below in this announcement for more details. http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ The recommended method of download is via BitTorrent from this site. http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html HTTP, FTP, and RSYNC downloads are available from Fedora Project mirrors listed above. Note that not all mirrors may be synced at this time. From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Feb 21 01:22:20 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:22:20 -0600 Subject: FC5T3? In-Reply-To: <200602201706.48717.linxt@comcast.net> References: <200602201706.48717.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43FA6B4C.4010107@earthlink.net> Thomas Taylor wrote: >I'm seeing posts about FC5T3 on the list but when I try to use any of the >mirrors to download I keep having problems. Some say I don't have the right >permissions and show (?) for owner and group, others just show error >transferring and disconnect. > >Using gFTP which has always worked since FC2 and the same mirrors as before. >Obviously someone has been able to get the files since they are posting about >problems. > >My favorite mirror, 'limestone.uoregon.edu' is only showing the DVD version, >no CD isos. > >Is this just a case that a few people were able to get hold of the downloads >before the "official" release date which is posted as 22/02/06? > >Thanks, >Tom > > > The availability was announced officially by Jesse Keating today about noon EST. The mirror that worked for me was ftp.rediris.es, which will now be swamped since I'm posting this. Gerry From static at xstatica.com Tue Feb 21 01:35:36 2006 From: static at xstatica.com (Adam Gibson) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:35:36 -0500 Subject: FC5t3: Install with Nvidia Geforce 7600GT problem Message-ID: <43FA6E68.9070707@xstatica.com> When the actual install screen comes up I just get a corrupted display. I can just make out what is there and sometimes can see the welcome screen with a button to start/continue the installation. The mouse/cursor works. I can move the cursor anywhere I want but clicking on the messed up looking button does nothing. I noticed that when starting up Fedora, it mentions found Nvidia unknown device 0092 . I assume it is defaulting to the VESA driver which seems to have some kind of problem with the 7600GT(even though vesa worked under FC4 for the 7600GT before manually changing it to nv). If it is defaulting to VESA is there a way to force FC5t3 to use the nv driver instead? It would be interesting to see if the nv driver works. What does it take to get device 0092 added to the approved nvidia device list so that it is detected properly to use the nv driver? I am using the x86_64 DVD install btw for an AMD 4000+. From katzj at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 02:07:45 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:07:45 -0500 Subject: FC5t3: Install with Nvidia Geforce 7600GT problem In-Reply-To: <43FA6E68.9070707@xstatica.com> References: <43FA6E68.9070707@xstatica.com> Message-ID: <1140487666.5995.0.camel@bree.local.net> On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 20:35 -0500, Adam Gibson wrote: > What does it take to get device 0092 added to the approved nvidia device > list so that it is detected properly to use the nv driver? File a bug with the pci id against xorg-x11-drv-nv Jeremy From rstrode at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 02:06:39 2006 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:06:39 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <20060221001605.GB25007@redhat.com> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <20060221001605.GB25007@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140487599.18814.0.camel@halflap> Hi, > I suggested enabling allow_execstack before, but dwalsh set me straight. > The SELinux type on /usr/bin/Xair should match that of /usr/bin/Xorg > (which can already use an executable stack), so > chcon -t xserver_exec_t /usr/bin/Xorg > is the more correct way to fix this. Thanks Nalin. Presumably you mean /usr/bin/Xair, of course. --Ray From rstrode at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 02:27:43 2006 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:27:43 -0500 Subject: aixgl and gconf question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1140488863.18814.3.camel@halflap> Hi, > [justin at kainos ~]$ cat aixgl-compositor-on.sh > #!/bin/bash > gconftool-2 -s /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager --type bool > true > [justin at kainos ~]$ cat aixgl-compositor-off.sh > #!/bin/bash > gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type > bool false > > > Is there anyway of getting something like that in /usr/bin/ for > metacity? > I think Jonathan is planning on writing a "On/Off capplet" for the bling and adding to the aiglx yum repo. --Ray From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Feb 21 03:02:57 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:02:57 -0600 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <1140483154.17286.68.camel@ender> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43FA63F5.4060202@interia.pl> <1140483154.17286.68.camel@ender> Message-ID: <1140490977.2948.2.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 16:52 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 01:51 +0100, Marcin Grabda wrote: > > It is really disappointing. Windows XP has such feature since 5 years. > > Couldn't we provide option to disable/enable this when needed? Removing > > it is not a good way. > > Windows XP does a lot of really really ugly things that we shouldn't > copy. This being one of them. > I agree. User switching should not even be in Windows XP. It causes a lot of confusion with laziness being the most usual reason for using it. From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Feb 21 03:07:17 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:07:17 -0600 Subject: Epson scanner works in FC4, not in FC5T3 (or T2) Message-ID: <1140491237.2948.5.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> The Epson 4490 Photo flatbed scanner is supported by the most recent version of iscan from http://www.avasys.jp/english/index_e.html. [gerry at gstpc-fc4 ~]$ rpm -q iscan iscan-1.18.0-1.c2 The scanner works in both iscan and xsane in FC4, but will not work in FC5T3 with the same setup. It did not work in FC5T2 either, but since T3 was just about to be released, I waited until I could install FC5T3 before further testing. I know that epkowa.conf is the proper config file because the scanner does not work in FC4 if I rename this file. As shown below, the files are the same. [gerry at fc5t3 sane.d]$ diff epkowa.conf /mnt/fc4/etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf [gerry at fc5t3 sane.d]$ If I do: [root at fc5t3 ~]# sane-find-scanner # sane-find-scanner will now attempt to detect your scanner. If the # result is different from what you expected, first make sure your # scanner is powered up and properly connected to your computer. # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make sure that # you have loaded a kernel SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter. found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0119 [EPSON Scanner]) at libusb:007:002 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. # Not checking for parallel port scanners. # Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary ports # can't be detected by this program. then [root at fc5t3 ~]# chmod 0666 /proc/bus/usb/007/002 [gerry at fc5t3 sane.d]$ xsane & results in "no devices available." [gerry at fc5t3 sane.d]$ iscan & results in "Could not send command to scanner. Check the scanner's status." After the above steps, the scanner works great in FC4. Filed as bugzilla #182210. Gerry From monty19 at hotmail.com Tue Feb 21 02:26:05 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:26:05 +0900 Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? References: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> Message-ID: I don't like the idea of saying a bug is UNCONFIRMED and ignoring it. So, you mean to say that my clean install of FC5T2 and FC5T3 where the default configuration for sound works with the stock kernel, but not with the xen kernel is imaginary? Whatever the cause, I can confirm that the bug exists on my hardware (Dell Inspiron 8000 with A23 (most current) BIOS.) If the developer/triage never gets his hands on similar hardware, does that bug just stay unconfirmed and ignored indefinately? That doesn't seem practical, especially in bugs related to hardware. It is a little easier for openoffice to do this because there shouldn't be as many hardware related problems. If the bug exists only on Fedora, the developer can install Fedora or go to a system with Fedora and confirm the problem. May take his time to install it, but he will not need to purchase the hardware. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marius Andreiana" To: "fedora-test" ; "fedora-devel" ; Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:27 AM Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? > Hi all, > > I've got a bunch of notices with FC5 test1 and test2 bugs being closed > as there have been a lot of updates meanwhile. For me, as a tester which > monitors some of the bugs and find some time once in a weekend to do > some triage, this seemed plain rude. > > If there are too many bugs overwhelming developers then the cause should > be addressed (better code with fewer bugs, which means more resources > devoted to coding which are unavailable now) or find alternative > solutions, where fedora testers could help. Closing all the reported > bugs won't make them go away, but will make testers go away. With the > current bugzilla setup, the number of reported bugs would have decreased > as more testers do triage and see if they are still valid in rawhide, or > they could confirm it until a developer finally looks at it, or the > reporter might update it with new info. > A practice from openoffice bugzilla could be borrowed - bugs reported by > usual bugzilla acounts are by default UNCONFIRMED, and only fedora > testers can set them to NEW. If there are too many bugs, a developer > could ignore UNCONFIRMED ones. > > I also noticed Dave closes kernel bugs with each kernel release, asking > people to retest. While this might save developers time, it could also > leave real bugs closed as reporter might get tired of re-confirming a > bug for 3 times. > Take for example this bug: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=174968 > In FC5test1, looks like the bttv driver had some problems, causing > tvtuners to stop working. A few updates later, it worked again. The > causes for not working and working again are unknown, therefore it could > happen on every new release. Just cross fingers and hope for the best! > > To conclude, please don't close bug reports without researching them > first. If Red Hat staff doesn't have time for it, please ask for triage > help on fedora-test list, even with weekly themes, such as GNOME triage > week (including searching for upstream bugs), kernel week etc - just > post the link to the bugzilla query for all the required components. > > Thanks and looking forward for a better FC5 release! > -- > Marius Andreiana > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From static at xstatica.com Tue Feb 21 03:30:09 2006 From: static at xstatica.com (Adam Gibson) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:30:09 -0500 Subject: FC5t3: Install with Nvidia Geforce 7600GT problem In-Reply-To: <1140487666.5995.0.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43FA6E68.9070707@xstatica.com> <1140487666.5995.0.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43FA8941.4080700@xstatica.com> Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 20:35 -0500, Adam Gibson wrote: > >>What does it take to get device 0092 added to the approved nvidia device >>list so that it is detected properly to use the nv driver? > > > File a bug with the pci id against xorg-x11-drv-nv Done. The nv driver should be used and would solve the problem but the VESA driver should work with it too as a fallback so that is another issue which I filed a separate bug for. Since another FC5t4 will not be available to test things further, anyone know how to force the nv driver during installation? Once installed I can manually configure the nv driver if needed. I could always use the text mode but I want to test the gui installer. From ckurecka at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 03:49:49 2006 From: ckurecka at gmail.com (Chris Kurecka) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:49:49 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1140487599.18814.0.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <20060221001605.GB25007@redhat.com> <1140487599.18814.0.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <8b148baa0602201949u33aab6f7ofa930ccd14d3f9a0@mail.gmail.com> I updated my Xair packages today. Everything was working before, but now at login to GNOME, it hangs at "Window Manager" on the splash screen. Logging into KDE works fine. Changing "aixgl" to "Standard" in the Security tab of the Login program in the Administration menu didn't fix anything. I'm not really sure what to do to make GNOME start working again. As a side note, assuming I get this working, how do I toggle between the main wobbly minimize and the second one with the demo video on the wiki? Thanks, Chris Kurecka -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davej at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 03:53:56 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:53:56 -0500 Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? In-Reply-To: References: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> Message-ID: <20060221035356.GA9327@redhat.com> On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 11:26:05AM +0900, Jason Montleon wrote: > >I also noticed Dave closes kernel bugs with each kernel release, asking > >people to retest. While this might save developers time, it could also > >leave real bugs closed as reporter might get tired of re-confirming a > >bug for 3 times. for the record, I don't mass-close bugs with each kernel release. I put every bug into NEEDINFO_REPORTER state each time I rebase to a new upstream release (typically every 2-3 months), along with a comment that the bug will be closed if there's no response within a few weeks. (Which is more psychological trickery than a threat, chances are I'll find something else more important to occupy myself with when the 'time limit' runs out, leaving the bug in NEEDINFO for even longer) Over the following few days, _dozens_ of bugs then get closed by the reporters (sadly there's a bunch that report "yup, is fixed", but still leave me to go close the bug for them). It's a massive timesaver, which allows me to work on bugs that need attention, as opposed to spending all day triaging. The only times I've mass-closedbugs are.. - end of life of FC2. (A few days later, a dozen or so got reopened as FC3 bugs) For FC3, there were ~120 kernel bugs left at EOL. I mass-migrated all these to FC4 bugs, where the users closed a bunch of them themselves a few days later. - When bugs have been in NEEDINFO states for _months_. If the user has got tired reporting 'bug still there', there's not a lot more I can do, and closing these bugs does 'wake up' a bunch of dormant bugs. Nothing stops a closed bug being reopened at any point by its reporter. Whilst people on the Cc of a bug can't reopen a bug they didn't file, if they make noise in the comments after it gets closed, I'll reopen them. This is such a rare occurence that it's not a big time sink. Dave From static at xstatica.com Tue Feb 21 04:27:18 2006 From: static at xstatica.com (Adam Gibson) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:27:18 -0500 Subject: Anaconda FC5t3 x86_64 upgrade from x86_64 FC4 fails with conflicts Message-ID: <43FA96A6.2080109@xstatica.com> 04:16:09 ERROR : error running transaction: Error in Transaction: ('file /usr/include/X11 from install of xorg-x11-filesystem-7.0-1 conflicts with file from package xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-37.FC4.49.2', (7, '/usr/include/X11', 0L)) ('file /etc/vimrc from install of vim-minimal-6.4.007-1 conflicts with file from package vim-common-6.3.086-0.fc4', (7, '/etc/vimrc', 0L)) ('file /usr/lib64/python2.4/config/Makefile from install of python-2.4.2-3.2.1 conflicts with file from package python-devel-2.4.1-2', (7, '/usr/lib64/python2.4/config/Makefile', 0L)) ('file /lib/libblkid.so.1.0 from install of e2fsprogs-libs-1.38-6.2 conflicts with file from package e2fsprogs-1.38-0.FC4.1', (7, '/lib/libblkid.so.1.0', 0L)) ('file /lib/libcom_err.so.2.1 from install of e2fsprogs-libs-1.38-6.2 conflicts with file from package e2fsprogs-1.38-0.FC4.1', (7, '/lib/libcom_err.so.2.1', 0L)) ('file /lib/libe2p.so.2.3 from install of e2fsprogs-libs-1.38-6.2 conflicts with file from package e2fsprogs-1.38-0.FC4.1', (7, '/lib/libe2p.so.2.3', 0L)) ('file /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 from install of e2fsprogs-libs-1.38-6.2 conflicts with file from package e2fsprogs-1.38-0.FC4.1', (7, '/lib/libext2fs.so.2.4', 0L)) ('file /lib/libss.so.2.0 from install of e2fsprogs-libs-1.38-6.2 conflicts with file from package e2fsprogs-1.38-0.FC4.1', (7, '/lib/libss.so.2.0', 0L)) ('file /lib/libuuid.so.1.2 from install of e2fsprogs-libs-1.38-6.2 conflicts with file from package e2fsprogs-1.38-0.FC4.1', (7, '/lib/libuuid.so.1.2', 0L)) ('file /etc/rc.d/init.d/firstboot from install of firstboot-tui-1.4.4-1 conflicts with file from package firstboot-1.3.42-1', (7, '/etc/rc.d/init.d/firstboot', 0L)) ('file /usr/sbin/firstboot from install of firstboot-tui-1.4.4-1 conflicts with file from package firstboot-1.3.42-1', (7, '/usr/sbin/firstboot', 0L)) ('file /usr/share/firstboot/firstboot.py from install of firstboot-tui-1.4.4-1 conflicts with file from package firstboot-1.3.42-1', (7, '/usr/share/firstboot/firstboot.py', 0L)) ('file /usr/share/firstboot/firstbootBackend.py from install of firstboot-tui-1.4.4-1 conflicts with file from package firstboot-1.3.42-1', (7, '/usr/share/firstboot/firstbootBackend.py', 0L)) ('file /usr/share/firstboot/functions.py from install of firstboot-tui-1.4.4-1 conflicts with file from package firstboot-1.3.42-1', (7, '/usr/share/firstboot/functions.py', 0L)) ('file /usr/share/firstboot/textWindow.py from install of firstboot-tui-1.4.4-1 conflicts with file from package firstboot-1.3.42-1', (7, '/usr/share/firstboot/textWindow.py', 0L)) From static at xstatica.com Tue Feb 21 04:33:40 2006 From: static at xstatica.com (Adam Gibson) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:33:40 -0500 Subject: FC5t3: Install with Nvidia Geforce 7600GT problem In-Reply-To: <43FA8941.4080700@xstatica.com> References: <43FA6E68.9070707@xstatica.com> <1140487666.5995.0.camel@bree.local.net> <43FA8941.4080700@xstatica.com> Message-ID: <43FA9824.9050103@xstatica.com> Adam Gibson wrote: > Jeremy Katz wrote: > >> On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 20:35 -0500, Adam Gibson wrote: >> >>> What does it take to get device 0092 added to the approved nvidia >>> device list so that it is detected properly to use the nv driver? >> >> >> >> File a bug with the pci id against xorg-x11-drv-nv > > > Done. The nv driver should be used and would solve the problem but the > VESA driver should work with it too as a fallback so that is another > issue which I filed a separate bug for. > > Since another FC5t4 will not be available to test things further, anyone > know how to force the nv driver during installation? Once installed I > can manually configure the nv driver if needed. I could always use the > text mode but I want to test the gui installer. I just used 'linux vnc' to attempt an installation which does not cause the corrupt display issue with the VESA driver. Now to figure out how to get passed the conflicts which I posted in another subject so that I can test the installer further. Thanks for the information on where to post the bug on this in bugzilla. From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Feb 21 04:34:59 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:34:59 -0500 Subject: cd image sizes? Message-ID: <20060221043459.GA3366@wolves.durham.nc.us> I've downloaded the CD images and started to write them to CD-RW, only to find that they require 700MB blanks. Is this an oversight or intentional? -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From grinnz at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 04:53:02 2006 From: grinnz at gmail.com (Dan) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:53:02 -0500 Subject: FC5t3 issues with nv6800GS and NVRAID Message-ID: <43FA9CAE.4080405@gmail.com> I tried to install FC5t3 but graphical install had issues, and seeing as my FC4 dvd also seems to have these issues I believe it is because of the nvidia 6800GS pci-express video card I recently upgraded to, since installing FC5t2 successfully (but not being able to boot it; that is the other issue). So I installed in text mode, though it was having problems displaying the text (everything would move one character to the right when selected, leaving characters all over the place, so it just was extremely hard to figure out what i was doing). I installed successfully to NVRAID 0 as with FC5t2, but as it was in such a confusing mode I couldn't tell how the bootloader was attempted to be installed. I believe I told it to install to the correct drive, though. However, upon boot, it didn't even get as far as FC5t2; it just comes up with GRUB Geom Error. Trying to install grub from rescue mode also results in failure; setting it up goes smoothly but upon the setup command, it can't find the appropriate partition for some reason; it gets all the way to "install /grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+15 p (hd0,1)/grub/stage2 /grub/grub.conf" and fails, Error 22: No such partition. Now I'm going to have to install FC5t2 or FC4 so I can boot back into windows and continue using this computer for a while. -Dan From stanfinley at comcast.net Tue Feb 21 04:52:27 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:52:27 -0700 Subject: Kudzu fails with segfault on FC5 Test 3 on HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook Message-ID: <1140497548.4061.18.camel@stantonfinley.org> Kudzu fails with segfault on FC5 Test 3 on HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook with the message "Checking for hardware changes/etc/rc5.d/S05kudzu: line 23: 1357 Segmentation fault /sbin/kudzu $KUDZU_ARGS [FAILED]". This occurs with SELinux enabled or disabled or upon relabeling. The kernel running is the original FC5t3 kernel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor-i686. The notebook uses a 1.6 GHz AMD Mobile Sempron? Processor 2800+ with PowerNow!? Technology. The output of lspci for this machine is: 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge (rev 01) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5a3f 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 11) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller ATI 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge 00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) 00:14.6 Modem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4378 (rev 02) 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) 05:09.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller Bug filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182220 Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From ckurecka at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 04:53:18 2006 From: ckurecka at gmail.com (Chris Kurecka) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:53:18 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <8b148baa0602201949u33aab6f7ofa930ccd14d3f9a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <20060221001605.GB25007@redhat.com> <1140487599.18814.0.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602201949u33aab6f7ofa930ccd14d3f9a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8b148baa0602202053m36861b5eib4f6ac9b6dccd127@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/06, Chris Kurecka wrote: > > I updated my Xair packages today. Everything was working before, but now > at login to GNOME, it hangs at "Window Manager" on the splash screen. > Logging into KDE works fine. Changing "aixgl" to "Standard" in the Security > tab of the Login program in the Administration menu didn't fix anything. > I'm not really sure what to do to make GNOME start working again. > > As a side note, assuming I get this working, how do I toggle between the > main wobbly minimize and the second one with the demo video on the wiki? As a follow-up to my own email, it appears it has to do with selinux. Doing "setsebool allow_execstack 1" from the command line before logging into GNOME fixes it, but chcon -t xserver_exec_t /usr/bin/Xair doesn't. I'm still curious about a real fix for this, and how to do the other minimization effect if anyone knows. Thanks, Chris Kurecka -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From berryja at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 05:18:02 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:18:02 -0600 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <20060220203040.GA9910@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060220203040.GA9910@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602202118r108948fdn1afdd2ec20cc0193@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Bill Nottingham (notting at redhat.com) said: > > DI Mario Bruckschwaiger (mario at targetdevelopment.at) said: > > > Jon Savage wrote: > > > >>On my system this is an selinux issue: > > > >> > > > > > > > >Same here- works fine w/ selinux turned off. > > > > > > kudzu does not work on my system (x86_64) with selinux turned off. > > > > For those that see the kudzu segfault, what sort of video hardware > > do you have? > > If you're seeing this happen, please run: kudzu is still crashing. bt is the same as the one submitted previously (just FYI). > http://people.redhat.com/notting/ddc-fu.2 > > and let me know if: > > a) it crashes It does not crash. > b) it displays useful information about your monitor It does appear to do so, yes: $ sudo ./ddc-fu.2 - class: VIDEO bus: DDC detached: 0 desc: "NVIDIA Corporation nv43 Board - p216h0" mem: 131072 - class: MONITOR bus: DDC detached: 0 desc: "XR6-19Dw" id: XER9a13 horizSyncMin: 30 horizSyncMax: 81 vertRefreshMin: 56 vertRefreshMax: 76 mode: 1280x1024 mode: 1440x900 mode: 1440x900 Does this mean you think you have the code fixed? : ) Let us know if there is something else we can test. Jonathan From berryja at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 05:24:12 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:24:12 -0600 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates - x86_64 In-Reply-To: <43FA585D.4090200@insight.rr.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060220203040.GA9910@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43FA585D.4090200@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602202124n3c42e421h26a689d70b8e10fa@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/06, Jim Cornette wrote: > Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Bill Nottingham (notting at redhat.com) said: > >>For those that see the kudzu segfault, what sort of video hardware > >>do you have? > > > > > > If you're seeing this happen, please run: > > > > http://people.redhat.com/notting/ddc-fu.2 > > > > and let me know if: > > > > a) it crashes > > b) it displays useful information about your monitor > > > > Bill > > adding X86_64 reference in subject. It doesn't open on i386. $ file ddc-fu.2 ddc-fu.2: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped ; ) >From what I've heard, this only should affect x86_64 systems anyway. Are you seeing a problem with kudzu on i386? Note the first "if" statement above. : ) Jonathan From borgi2008 at yahoo.de Tue Feb 21 05:40:34 2006 From: borgi2008 at yahoo.de (Borgi2008) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:40:34 +0100 Subject: FC5T3 - Search seems unusable In-Reply-To: <20060220224945.29010.qmail@web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060220224945.29010.qmail@web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43FAA7D2.2030101@yahoo.de> Igor Mileti? schrieb: > */Jeremy Katz /* wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 16:01 -0600, Gerry Tool wrote: > > How is one supposed to find files with this facility? (I know > that I can > > use locate from the CLI, but this gui search facility has always > been > > useful in the past. > > > > If this is a bug, I'll be happy to report it - to what component? > > The bug is that beagled isn't running in the session by default. I > think it's filed, but am not 100% certain. Probably worth checking > > On related topic. It appears that beagle is forgetting all the files > it indexed. If I leave computer to run for few days, it will index > everything and search tool will work as intended. However, once I > restart everything seems to start from beginning. (i.e. a seach that > worked right after reboot will fail in new session) > Is it supposed to be this way? > > Igor > No, normally it makes a database which is the same every reboot. Hendrik Borghorst ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de From stanfinley at comcast.net Tue Feb 21 06:43:14 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:43:14 -0700 Subject: Kudzu fails with segfault on FC5 Test 3 on HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook In-Reply-To: <1140497548.4061.18.camel@stantonfinley.org> References: <1140497548.4061.18.camel@stantonfinley.org> Message-ID: <1140504194.4061.22.camel@stantonfinley.org> On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 21:52 -0700, Stanton Finley wrote: > Kudzu fails with segfault on FC5 Test 3 on HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook > with the message "Checking for hardware changes/etc/rc5.d/S05kudzu: line > 23: 1357 Segmentation fault /sbin/kudzu $KUDZU_ARGS [FAILED]". > > This occurs with SELinux enabled or disabled or upon relabeling. > > The kernel running is the original FC5t3 > kernel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor-i686. > > The notebook uses a 1.6 GHz AMD Mobile Sempron? Processor 2800+ with > PowerNow!? Technology. > This problem does not occur with the non-hypervisor kernel. This begs the question should the hypervisor kernel be installed by default for this processor? Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From jkeating at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 06:56:14 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:56:14 -0800 Subject: cd image sizes? In-Reply-To: <20060221043459.GA3366@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20060221043459.GA3366@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <1140504974.17286.78.camel@ender> On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 23:34 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > I've downloaded the CD images and started to write them to CD-RW, only > to find that they require 700MB blanks. Is this an oversight or > intentional? > It was intentional for this release. Our sizes were creeping again, and it was either bump to a higher number of CDs or bump the size of the CDs. In the past, larger CD sizes caused problems. We were hoping to see if there was any complaints this time around to see if we can safely bump it in a more perm manner. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From linxt at comcast.net Tue Feb 21 07:44:15 2006 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:44:15 -0800 Subject: FC5T3? (THANKS) In-Reply-To: <43FA6B4C.4010107@earthlink.net> References: <200602201706.48717.linxt@comcast.net> <43FA6B4C.4010107@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200602202344.15062.linxt@comcast.net> On Monday 20 February 2006 17:22, Gerry Tool wrote: > Thomas Taylor wrote: > >I'm seeing posts about FC5T3 on the list but when I try to use any of the > >mirrors to download I keep having problems. Some say I don't have the > > right permissions and show (?) for owner and group, others just show > > error transferring and disconnect. > > > >Using gFTP which has always worked since FC2 and the same mirrors as > > before. Obviously someone has been able to get the files since they are > > posting about problems. > > > >My favorite mirror, 'limestone.uoregon.edu' is only showing the DVD > > version, no CD isos. > > > >Is this just a case that a few people were able to get hold of the > > downloads before the "official" release date which is posted as 22/02/06? > > > >Thanks, > >Tom > > The availability was announced officially by Jesse Keating today about > noon EST. The mirror that worked for me was ftp.rediris.es, which will > now be swamped since I'm posting this. > > Gerry Thanks to both Tom & Gerry for the quick responses. Waited until this evening and everything went fine. Think I'll wait until tomorrow (oops, it already is) to start installing. My eyes are getting too crossed right now. Thanks Again, Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Feb 21 07:46:40 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:46:40 -0500 Subject: cd image sizes? In-Reply-To: <1140504974.17286.78.camel@ender> References: <20060221043459.GA3366@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1140504974.17286.78.camel@ender> Message-ID: <20060221074640.GA5119@wolves.durham.nc.us> On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 10:56:14PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 23:34 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > > I've downloaded the CD images and started to write them to CD-RW, only > > to find that they require 700MB blanks. Is this an oversight or > > intentional? > > > > It was intentional for this release. Our sizes were creeping again, and > it was either bump to a higher number of CDs or bump the size of the > CDs. In the past, larger CD sizes caused problems. We were hoping to > see if there was any complaints this time around to see if we can safely > bump it in a more perm manner. Not a problem here, just an unexpected surprise. I just grabbed the smaller blank RWs by habit. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From mario at targetdevelopment.at Tue Feb 21 08:00:25 2006 From: mario at targetdevelopment.at (DI Mario Bruckschwaiger) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:00:25 +0100 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <20060220203040.GA9910@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060220203040.GA9910@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43FAC899.6080601@targetdevelopment.at> I got the following message on my ASUS AMD64: Bill Nottingham wrote: > a) it crashes no > b) it displays useful information about your monitor [root at traveller ~]# ./ddc-fu.2 - class: VIDEO bus: DDC detached: 0 desc: "NVIDIA Corporation NV31 Board - e133n" mem: 65536 From buildsys at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 08:26:35 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 03:26:35 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060221 changes Message-ID: <200602210826.k1L8QZw7013975@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Removed package gnome-kerberos Updated Packages: authconfig-5.2.1-1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 20 2006 Tomas Mraz - 5.2.1-1 - don't crash in TUI when some options aren't set (#182151) * Fri Feb 03 2006 Tomas Mraz - 5.2.0-1 - redesigned GUI (#178112) - added man page for system-config-ac (#179584) - disable authentication of system accounts by network services by default, added option for changing that (#179009) - updated translations, new languages * Mon Jan 09 2006 Tomas Mraz - 5.1.2-1 - fixed regression when saving nsswitch.conf busybox-1:1.01-3 ---------------- chkfontpath-1.10.1-1 -------------------- * Thu Feb 16 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.10.1-1 - Implemented new --listfp option for bug (#153324). - Fix stderr output redirection bug in kill invocation (#176444). - Check return code from realloc() and exit on failure. control-center-1:2.13.92-1 -------------------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1:2.13.91-1.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Wed Feb 08 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 - Reenable Spanish help devhelp-0.11-3 -------------- findutils-1:4.2.27-4 -------------------- * Sun Feb 19 2006 Miloslav Trmac - 1:4.2.27-4 - Report the correct directory when hard link count is inconsistent (#182001) g-wrap-1.9.6-1 -------------- * Sat Feb 18 2006 Bill Nottingham 1.9.6-1 - update to 1.9.6, to fix incompatiblity with gcc-4.x - disable static libs gcc-4.1.0-0.29 -------------- * Sun Feb 19 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.29 - update from gcc-4_1-branch (-r111179:111278) - PRs ada/13408, c++/26266, target/22209, target/26189 - fix ppc32 -fpic reload problem with extenddftf2 pattern (David Edelsohn, #181625, PR target/26350) - fix the PR middle-end/26334 patch * Fri Feb 17 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.28 - update from gcc-4_1-branch (-r110978:111179) - PRs ada/20753, bootstrap/16787, bootstrap/26053, fortran/25806, libfortran/15234, libgfortran/25949, middle-end/25335, target/25259, target/26255 - fix ICE with shift by -1 (#181586, PR middle-end/26300) - merge gomp changes from trunk (-r110983:110984, -r111017:111018, -r111152:111153 and -r111204:111205) - PRs bootstrap/26161, fortran/26224, libgomp/25938, libgomp/25984 - don't define _REENTRANT in gthr*.h (#176278, PR libstdc++/11953) - define _REENTRANT if -pthread and _POSIX_SOURCE if -posix on s390{,x} and ia64 - fix ICE with register variable and __asm statement (#181731, PR middle-end/26334) glibc-2.3.90-38 --------------- * Fri Feb 17 2006 Jakub Jelinek 2.3.90-38 - update from CVS - robust mutexes rewrite gnome-panel-2.13.91-3 --------------------- * Sun Feb 19 2006 Ray Strode - 2.13.91-3 - bring back shutdown menu item gnome-power-manager-2.13.90-1 ----------------------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.90-1 - Update to 2.13.90 - Require dbus-x11 (#176656) gnome-utils-1:2.13.92-4 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-4 - Fix a crash in gnome-system-log when closing logs gnucash-1.8.12-3 ---------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Bill Nottingham - 1.8.12-3 - rebuild against g-wrap-1.9.6 gnupg-1.4.2.1-4 --------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai - 1.4.2.1-4 - rebuild * Mon Feb 20 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai - 1.4.2.1-3 - add patch from David Shaw to fix error reading keyrings created with older versions of GnuPG (Enrico Scholz, #182163) isdn4k-utils-3.2-39 ------------------- * Fri Feb 17 2006 Than Ngo 3.2-39 - fix rpm file conflict #181854 kernel-2.6.15-1.1969_FC5 ------------------------ * Sat Feb 18 2006 Dave Jones - Reenable EMI26 driver. (#181813) - Fix counting of hotplug cpu's in x86 microcode driver - Fix syscall auditting doing allocations whilst atomic. - Disable setting of security attributes on new inodes when no policy is loaded. (#180296) * Fri Feb 17 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc4 - 2.6.16rc3-git8 & git9 * Thu Feb 16 2006 John W. Linville - stop adding duplicate MODULE_VERSION line to tg3 lftp-3.4.2-4 ------------ * Thu Feb 16 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3.4.2-4 - Apply upstream fix for bug 181694. * Wed Feb 15 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3.4.2-2 - fix bug 181694: segfault on redirection to non-existent location mesa-6.4.2-3 ------------ * Sun Feb 19 2006 Ray Strode 6.4.2-3 - enable texture-from-drawable patch - add glut-devel dependency metacity-2.13.89.0.2006.02.17-2 ------------------------------- * Sun Feb 19 2006 Ray Strode - 2.13.89.0.2006.02.17-2 - disable compositor on s390 s390x and ppc64 * Fri Feb 17 2006 Ray Strode - 2.13.89.0.2006.02.17-1 - Update to latest cvs snapshot to give meaningful failure error messages - Don't remove build root in install, because it triggers a rebuild of metacity * Thu Feb 16 2006 Ray Strode - 2.13.89.0.2006.02.16-1 - Update to cvs snapshot to add the ability to runtime enable compositor - change %makeinstall to make install DESTDIR=.. pango-1.11.5-2 -------------- * Fri Feb 17 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.11.5-2 - Fix a crash in pango_split - Hide some private API perl-HTML-Parser-3.50-1 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 3.50-1 - upgrade to 3.50 redhat-artwork-0.239-1 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 17 2006 Matthias Clasen - 0.239-1 - Make the login screen adapt to label width scim-1.4.4-5 ------------ * Mon Feb 20 2006 Warren Togami - 1.4.4-5 - Add epoch to iiimf Obsoletes so it actually removes it (#173071) NOTE: The goal of these Obsoletes are for the official supported upgrade path to work smoothly. If users want to use iiimf, they are free to do so but their package must be compatible. selinux-policy-2.2.17-2 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.17-2 - Update to upstream - Fix semoudle polcy * Thu Feb 16 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.16-1 - Update to upstream - fix sysconfig/selinux link vte-0.11.18-1.fc5.2 ------------------- * Fri Feb 17 2006 Matthias Clasen 0.11.18-2 - Change Shift-Insert back to insert PRIMARY xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.0-4 -------------------------- * Sun Feb 19 2006 Ray Strode 7.0-4 - Add back part of glproto-texture-from-drawable patch that didn't get integrated for some reason * Thu Feb 16 2006 Mike A. Harris 7.0-3 - Update to glproto-1.4.4 - Drop glproto-texture-from-drawable patch, which is integrated now. * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating 7.0-2.3 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 21 08:57:38 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:57:38 +1100 Subject: Someting Strange - no gnome-session! - what was the command? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602201308i36f3ddb1y554cc1a43f8b5228@mail.gmail.com> References: <1140451052.12353.3.camel@localhost> <1140453779.17263.0.camel@localhost> <43FA1EF7.20500@bigpond.net.au> <604aa7910602201218l355025e1q7faf9c8c00fa812c@mail.gmail.com> <43FA2BFE.6090600@bigpond.net.au> <604aa7910602201308i36f3ddb1y554cc1a43f8b5228@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43FAD602.4060106@bigpond.net.au> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/20/06, David Timms wrote: >> Funny however, how at least two people managed to achieve the same thing :-) > > its not funny.. its disturbing. Its doubly disturbing when people > can't remember exactly what they did and make accusations that there > is a problem in the software. I am definitely not making accusations; I think the list is for discussion as well as definite bugs etc. >This could easily be local admin errors > for both people. Very likely, but it's better to be sure, with hard evidence. >But we can't know for sure if you can't be sure as to > what actions you took to get into this situation. Any hints why I can't find what I did in the result of the history command ? Or in any log files on disk ? Perhaps I'm simply looking in the wrong place ? > yum remove "evolution*" will definitely cause a problem because > its an absolutely unwise thing to do. The evolution-data-server > package is a piece of commonly used library infrastructure for gnome > applications and is not a subpackage of the evolution application. Thanks for explaining the dependencies, if it was evolution* I removed, then would I expect to see it in the yum log ? If not, why not ? Would this fact be a bug in itself (failing to log actions) ? > -jef I'm not trying to waste people's time on personal fault finding, but rather get to the bottom of what went wrong for me and taxte, and secondly why on disk information doesn't seem to have tracked the change (important when it comes down to security and accountability when multiple people manage a machine). Taxte said: >>>>Silly me :-D I already know why... don't make an automated yum >>>>remove :-D >>>Can you tell us what command you used; it still might require following up ! Taxte, if you can possible describe exactly what you did to induce this situation, it would be of great assistance. Thanks, DaveT. From che666 at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 09:05:07 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:05:07 +0100 Subject: BitTorrent ports? In-Reply-To: <43FA2524.8070603@bigpond.net.au> References: <51811.84.114.208.90.1140461069.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> <43FA1296.9030900@mountaincable.net> <43FA2524.8070603@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: 2006/2/20, David Timms : > glenn wrote: > > Havard Rast Blok wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'm new to the Fedora Test List, so I thought a brief introduction would > >> be appropriate: I'm a European software developer and tester currently > >> working in the QA department of Altova (the XMLSpy company). I've been > >> using > >> Linux since about Red Hat 5.x and made the switch completely a year > >> before > >> WinXP. My current pet projects include rememberjava.com and > >> jbookmarks.sf.net. > >> > >> What I wanted to ask you guys about, is BitTorrent, which should be > >> relevant given that Test 3 is now out: > >> http://torrent.fedoraproject.org > >> > >> The question: Which ports should I open to run BT efficiently (and > >> securely)? > >> > >> My current firewall is rather tight, with as few ports as possibly open, > >> including the range 6881:6999 TCP source and destination ports, plus > >> 33301:34999 on TCP source (not sure if I need those). However, I still > >> get > >> loads of junk in my /var/log/message from my iptables setup whenever I > >> run > >> BT. Also, the up and down speeds are rather unimpressive; both about > >> 10-20 > >> KB/s (I'm on a 3 Mb/s cable modem line). Should I open more ports? Should > The cable speed is really a peak speed capability while communicating > with a local / fast mirror. Once connections are going all over the > place (peer2peer) this speed probably wont be achievable. > > I find azureus bittorent client to suit my needs. It includes things like: > . firewall test > . statistics and graphs on in/out throughput > . azureus wide and per torrent upload and download rate limits > . total and per torrent no of connection limits > all in a nice GUI. > It is common to find is that the outbound data will be flooding your > internet connection, making it difficult for download ack packets to > make it out your connection (so the peer sending you data doesn't > continue until your ack gets through). > > Limit upload rate to about half your upload bandwidth, and download to > 90% (if adsl 512 then rate capability is 400kb/sec, *.9 =360). > > Also, a lot of home routers have trouble because of the nature of their > inbuilt firewalls tracking connection states. They have a table of a > fixed size, and once the table is full, they have to drop/stop > connections to keep operating. Indeed, some router only last a few days > or hours once peer2peer clients are operating within the network. > > So the other helpful thing to do is limit the number of connections > total to a smaller number. > > I find both of these things improve bittorrent and gnutella peer2peer > speeds. It does seem weird that limiting your bandwidth can increase the > achievable speed (it's sort of QOS). its not wierd at all. same issue for dsl users. i just found that limiting upstream to 90% of the maximum is enough to get lots of more downstream on the bittorrent isos. dont forget one side effect... the more people cap their upstream the slower the download for all will be aswell ;). freeloaders just hog the net with no benefit for anyone. that said... keep on seeding... ;) regards, Rudolf Kastl > > DaveT. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From che666 at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 09:06:02 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:06:02 +0100 Subject: how to use an older gcc ? In-Reply-To: <1140455500.6074.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140455500.6074.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2006/2/20, Rakotomandimby Mihamina : > Hi, > I have to compile qemu 0.8 RPM on a fedora core 4 box. > FC4 comes with gcc4 but qemu wont compile with it. > > How should I do to get temporarily a gcc 3.3.6 just to compile it then > get back to my gcc 4? > > I lost my FC4/FC3 CDs, would you know a (FTP if possibe) repository > where I could find a gcc 3.3.6 rpm? > > -- > A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source & GPL). > Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better. > http://www.cps-project.org for downloads & documentation. > Free hosting of CPS groupware: http://www.objectis.org. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > qemu compiles fine for me if i disable sparc ;) regards, rudolf kastl From grabka999 at interia.pl Tue Feb 21 09:10:26 2006 From: grabka999 at interia.pl (Marcin Grabda) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:10:26 +0100 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <1140483154.17286.68.camel@ender> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43FA63F5.4060202@interia.pl> <1140483154.17286.68.camel@ender> Message-ID: <43FAD902.3060906@interia.pl> Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 01:51 +0100, Marcin Grabda wrote: > >> It is really disappointing. Windows XP has such feature since 5 years. >> Couldn't we provide option to disable/enable this when needed? Removing >> it is not a good way. >> > > Windows XP does a lot of really really ugly things that we shouldn't > copy. This being one of them. > That's why I asked about providing option to enable that feature when needed. Maybe it's ugly but under some circumstances it's really useful. Marcin. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Zgarnij aparat cyfrowy! >> http://link.interia.pl/f190e << From gnomeuser at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 09:12:58 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:12:58 +0100 Subject: BitTorrent ports? In-Reply-To: References: <51811.84.114.208.90.1140461069.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> <43FA1296.9030900@mountaincable.net> <43FA2524.8070603@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <1140513179.3165.2.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> tir, 21 02 2006 kl. 10:05 +0100, skrev Rudolf Kastl: > its not wierd at all. same issue for dsl users. i just found that > limiting upstream to 90% of the maximum is enough to get lots of more > downstream on the bittorrent isos. > dont forget one side effect... the more people cap their upstream the > slower the download for all will be aswell ;). freeloaders just hog > the net with no benefit for anyone. http://www.adsl-optimizer.dk/ might be an interesting page for those of us on ADSL connections. - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 21 09:13:12 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:13:12 +1100 Subject: Fast user switching - or other In-Reply-To: <1140490977.2948.2.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43FA63F5.4060202@interia.pl> <1140483154.17286.68.camel@ender> <1140490977.2948.2.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> Message-ID: <43FAD9A8.3000004@bigpond.net.au> Gerry Tool wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 16:52 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: >> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 01:51 +0100, Marcin Grabda wrote: >>> It is really disappointing. Windows XP has such feature since 5 years. >>> Couldn't we provide option to disable/enable this when needed? Removing >>> it is not a good way. >> Windows XP does a lot of really really ugly things that we shouldn't >> copy. This being one of them. >> > I agree. User switching should not even be in Windows XP. It causes a > lot of confusion with laziness being the most usual reason for using it. I find that when admin'ing a machine that the ability to tell a GUI tool that I want it to start with root rights would be handy. My current method is invike a terminal, su - in that terminal, then start the app, in background. I know that some apps (I guess ones that are marked as being useless without root access), invoke the ~"please give root password" dialog. Is there already a nice way to start other programs (most common example for me: nmapfe and gnome-terminal) as root (or even another user) ? DaveT. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 21 10:38:30 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:38:30 +1100 Subject: Excessive CPU problem in FC5t3 - on sony vaio In-Reply-To: <20060221001408.GA15354@bloch.smith.man.ac.uk> References: <20060221001408.GA15354@bloch.smith.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <43FAEDA6.3050501@bigpond.net.au> bloch at verdurin.com wrote: > This evening I put FC5t3 on a Vaio S1XP, previously running FC4. > > The desktop is almost unusable because of severe system load spikes, > meaning that windows are unresponsive for ~10 seconds at a time. > > Text consoles don't seem to be affected, so I don't think it's a kernel > issue. > > Happy to report a bug, but I'm not sure what the component would be? That's a Sony isn't it ? I think I heard mention / saw bug mentioning sony notebook, perhaps see if you can find it in list archives and bugzilla for more info. Search fedora for body text sony, and see how you go... DaveT. From che666 at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 10:39:09 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:39:09 +0100 Subject: Fast user switching - or other In-Reply-To: <43FAD9A8.3000004@bigpond.net.au> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43FA63F5.4060202@interia.pl> <1140483154.17286.68.camel@ender> <1140490977.2948.2.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> <43FAD9A8.3000004@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: 2006/2/21, David Timms : > Gerry Tool wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 16:52 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > >> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 01:51 +0100, Marcin Grabda wrote: > >>> It is really disappointing. Windows XP has such feature since 5 years. > >>> Couldn't we provide option to disable/enable this when needed? Removing > >>> it is not a good way. > >> Windows XP does a lot of really really ugly things that we shouldn't > >> copy. This being one of them. > >> > > I agree. User switching should not even be in Windows XP. It causes a > > lot of confusion with laziness being the most usual reason for using it. > > I find that when admin'ing a machine that the ability to tell a GUI tool > that I want it to start with root rights would be handy. My current > method is invike a terminal, su - in that terminal, then start the app, > in background. > > I know that some apps (I guess ones that are marked as being useless > without root access), invoke the ~"please give root password" dialog. > Is there already a nice way to start other programs (most common example > for me: nmapfe and gnome-terminal) as root (or even another user) ? > > DaveT. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > just use consolehelper and to mass deploy it just create an rpm package adding the consolehelper stuff for e.g. gnome-terminal calling it something like gnome-terminal-rootaccess and let it depend on gnome-terminal. I just dont see where this is different to opening a terminal and typing su -. dont even t hink it can be faster accessed etc. autologin into an environment as root isnt the way of "admining" id propose. regards, Rudolf Kastl From gbofspam at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 11:23:29 2006 From: gbofspam at gmail.com (gb spam) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:23:29 -0500 Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? In-Reply-To: <20060221035356.GA9327@redhat.com> References: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> <20060221035356.GA9327@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0602210323j393416d2kdcb06a9852145ede@mail.gmail.com> > Over the following few days, _dozens_ of bugs then get closed by the > reporters (sadly there's a bunch that report "yup, is fixed", but > still leave me to go close the bug for them). Closed for the reporter doesn't necessarily mean closed for everybody who has been folowing the bug (withor without posting to it), or closed to the satisfaction of the maintainer - who may have been made aware of more gotchas than the reporter. From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 21 11:26:54 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:26:54 +0100 Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? In-Reply-To: <43FA6722.7020908@rogers.com> References: <43EB2B39.1050106@rogers.com> <1139486626.4112.34.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <4c4ba1530602090640t312aa975y78a170c4b3e4c362@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0602171529k4e2fe4a9ja8fc8eb479d7fbd2@mail.gmail.com> <43FA6722.7020908@rogers.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0602210326p61c1a69cu16742e552b5f45bb@mail.gmail.com> > Did you untar the two files and make the necessary changes to the module > c files. Then re-tar them? > I can confirm that the two patches worked just fine for me. > yes, I needed to re-tar it Have a look at my post http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2006/02/vmware-player-and-livecd.html -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 21 11:26:45 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:26:45 +1100 Subject: Fast user switching - alternate quick root application rights In-Reply-To: References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43FA63F5.4060202@interia.pl> <1140483154.17286.68.camel@ender> <1140490977.2948.2.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> <43FAD9A8.3000004@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <43FAF8F5.5080109@bigpond.net.au> Rudolf Kastl wrote: > 2006/2/21, David Timms : >> Gerry Tool wrote: >>> I agree. User switching should not even be in Windows XP. It causes a >>> lot of confusion with laziness being the most usual reason for using it. >> I find that when admin'ing a machine that the ability to tell a GUI tool >> that I want it to start with root rights would be handy. My current >> method is invike a terminal, su - in that terminal, then start the app, >> in background. >> >> I know that some apps (I guess ones that are marked as being useless >> without root access), invoke the ~"please give root password" dialog. >> Is there already a nice way to start other programs (most common example >> for me: nmapfe and gnome-terminal) as root (or even another user) ? >> >> DaveT. > > just use consolehelper and to mass deploy it just create an rpm > package adding the consolehelper stuff I can see the consolehelper config files, thanks very much for that info, I see now how pup/ethereal achieve this. > for e.g. gnome-terminal calling > it something like gnome-terminal-rootaccess and let it depend on > gnome-terminal. I've never created an rpm before, but perhaps a generic rpm to achieve what you describe above, or a package to do what I describe below... > I just dont see where this is different to opening a terminal and > typing su -. dont even t hink it can be faster accessed etc. Perhaps there could be a panel icon for application-root-access; if you drag and drop on application icon from the menu/panel, then the ~"give me the root password" would be shown and if password success the app start with root rights. I think that could be a fair solution, what do other people think ? Would such a method be technically impossible or extremely difficult or bad for security ? > autologin into an environment as root isnt the way of "admining" id propose. I wasn't meaning auto login, just to avoid: 1. go to menu, find terminal (applications/accesories/terminal) 2. type su - 3. enter password 4. type the name of the app you want. (remember that the name is usually very different from what is provided in the menus, so you need to find out/know this as well). The proposal would reduce this to: 1. drag drop icon from 1 onto the ~"give me more rights" icon. 2. enter password. This is from an admin who finds himself doing version 1 of these steps (what feels like) hundreds of times a day. A nice quick / obvious tool as described above may be very useful to others as well...? ps. the other common one I use is nautilus (as root), then you can use the ctrl-l location copy-paste in a terminal window, or sometimes just move files/folders or fix rights problems directly. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 21 11:48:09 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:48:09 +1100 Subject: Announcing Fedora Core 5 Test 3 In-Reply-To: <1140458562.2312.79.camel@ender> References: <1140458562.2312.79.camel@ender> Message-ID: <43FAFDF9.3010002@bigpond.net.au> Jesse Keating wrote: ... > Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Now Available ... > Notable Features of FC5 Test 3 > ============================== ... > * Hibernate should be functional on a wide variety of hardware again > (use pm-hibernate to test) ... > Important Warnings > ================== > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Test3CommonProblems maybe need an entry like: On notebook computers hibernate is enabled by default, to encourage testers to try it on their hardware. There are some machines that will not resume after a hibernate or suspend. This may be noticed on machines with a lid switch where the gnome-power-manager properties default to hibernate on close lid, instructing fedora to suspend/hibernate when the lid is closed. The problematic machines will not resume from this situation either through lid-open or the power button, and require a power button hard off and power on to boot normally again. But I can't confirm just yet (still downloading). From jamesjones01 at mchsi.com Tue Feb 21 12:21:42 2006 From: jamesjones01 at mchsi.com (James Jones) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:21:42 -0600 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602171634x44b8072dh350ea94ecda6cbb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> <8767947e0602171634x44b8072dh350ea94ecda6cbb0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43FB05D6.3090707@mchsi.com> Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 2/17/06, Miles Lane wrote: >> Yes, I know that there are avid fans of the "Spatial" UI, >> but please let me choose defaulting to hierarchical directory >> browsing. > > I'm afraid you chose a bad example here; you can configure that :-) > (thankfully). I cannot stand the spacial view in Nautilus either. > Open up a Nautilus window, Edit -> Preferences -> Behavior[tab] -> > Always open in browser windows[checkbox]. Yes, but... wasn't that only added after users raised a major ruckus about the imposition of spatial mode? James Jones From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 21 12:23:51 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:53:51 +0530 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <43FB05D6.3090707@mchsi.com> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> <8767947e0602171634x44b8072dh350ea94ecda6cbb0@mail.gmail.com> <43FB05D6.3090707@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <43FB0657.7040508@fedoraproject.org> James Jones wrote: >Jonathan Berry wrote: > > >>On 2/17/06, Miles Lane wrote: >> >> >>>Yes, I know that there are avid fans of the "Spatial" UI, >>>but please let me choose defaulting to hierarchical directory >>>browsing. >>> >>> >>I'm afraid you chose a bad example here; you can configure that :-) >>(thankfully). I cannot stand the spacial view in Nautilus either. >>Open up a Nautilus window, Edit -> Preferences -> Behavior[tab] -> >>Always open in browser windows[checkbox]. >> >> > >Yes, but... wasn't that only added after users raised a major ruckus >about the imposition of spatial mode? > > James Jones > > > It was previously configurable as GConf key. -- Rahul From off_by_1 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 21 12:01:34 2006 From: off_by_1 at yahoo.com (Mick Mearns) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 04:01:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Fedora Core 5 test 3 - grub Message-ID: <20060221120134.97636.qmail@web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi; I upgraded test2 to test 3. All went well, it said it would save my previous settings. However /etc/sysconfig/kernel was changed. UPDATEDEFAULT=no became yes, and grub was defaulted to the new kernel. This was nasty as this is a family machine with 3 hard drives. The default is XP. Lots of "Dad!!" and "Mick!!" yells, when it was next powered up. An easy fix but unexpected. I have never upgraded before but could not find my DSL info handy, so tried it. I would normally do a complete install. I do a daily 'yum upgrade' both on FC5Tx and FC4. I know this is a test release and upgrading is probably frowned upon. The loader recommended it however. Mick M. Death before Decaf!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From tjikkun at xs4all.nl Tue Feb 21 13:18:24 2006 From: tjikkun at xs4all.nl (Sander Hoentjen) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:18:24 +0100 Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <20060214170739.GN9720@neu.nirvana> References: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093851.GZ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <32035.192.94.41.42.1139911941.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214170739.GN9720@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <1140527906.8997.0.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 18:07 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 09:12:21PM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > > > So it looks like it will work - although I'm in the middle of rebuilding > > > it all to see if I can get it to work again - as part of my debugging was > > > to remove it all and start again :p > > > > For the record, recompiling both zaptel and asterisk against the new > > updated libraries, and all worked fine. > > There are asterisk, zaptel etc builds for FC5 at http://ATrpms.net/dist/fc5/ > Would you like to give them a test? Thanks! > -- Trying to yum install asterisk: --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package asterisk.i386 0:1.2.4-18.rhfc4.92.at set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: libtonezone.so.1.0 for package: asterisk --> Processing Dependency: libpri.so.1.0 for package: asterisk --> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes. --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package libpri1.i386 0:1.2.2-7.rhfc4.92.at set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: libtonezone.so.1.0 for package: asterisk --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: libtonezone.so.1.0 is needed by package asterisk Sander From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Tue Feb 21 13:32:13 2006 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:32:13 +0100 Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <1140527906.8997.0.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> References: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093851.GZ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <32035.192.94.41.42.1139911941.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214170739.GN9720@neu.nirvana> <1140527906.8997.0.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20060221133213.GA13387@neu.nirvana> On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:18:24PM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 18:07 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 09:12:21PM +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > > > > So it looks like it will work - although I'm in the middle of rebuilding > > > > it all to see if I can get it to work again - as part of my debugging was > > > > to remove it all and start again :p > > > > > > For the record, recompiling both zaptel and asterisk against the new > > > updated libraries, and all worked fine. > > > > There are asterisk, zaptel etc builds for FC5 at http://ATrpms.net/dist/fc5/ > > Would you like to give them a test? Thanks! > > Trying to yum install asterisk: > > Error: Missing Dependency: libtonezone.so.1.0 is needed by package > asterisk That's part of zaptel, which is at the same location yum pulled asterisk from. What does yum install zaptel asterisk say? Maybe you've been using disable/baseprotect or whatever mechanisms there are out there to only make a subset of ATrpms visible to yum? -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tjikkun at xs4all.nl Tue Feb 21 13:39:50 2006 From: tjikkun at xs4all.nl (Sander Hoentjen) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:39:50 +0100 Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <20060221133213.GA13387@neu.nirvana> References: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093851.GZ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <32035.192.94.41.42.1139911941.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214170739.GN9720@neu.nirvana> <1140527906.8997.0.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <20060221133213.GA13387@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <1140529191.8997.5.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 14:32 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:18:24PM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 18:07 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > > > > > > There are asterisk, zaptel etc builds for FC5 at http://ATrpms.net/dist/fc5/ > > > Would you like to give them a test? Thanks! > > > > Trying to yum install asterisk: > > > > Error: Missing Dependency: libtonezone.so.1.0 is needed by package > > asterisk > > That's part of zaptel, which is at the same location yum pulled > asterisk from. What does > > yum install zaptel asterisk No Match for argument: zaptel > say? Maybe you've been using disable/baseprotect or whatever > mechanisms there are out there to only make a subset of ATrpms visible > to yum? > -- http://dl.atrpms.net/fc5-i386/atrpms/stable/ that is the location i have in my atrpm.repo I can see asterisk-1.2.4-18.rhfc4.92.at.i386.rpm but no zaptel whatsoever From maestronn at wowway.com Tue Feb 21 14:07:39 2006 From: maestronn at wowway.com (Demond James) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:07:39 -0500 Subject: kudzu and haldaemon after updates In-Reply-To: <20060220203040.GA9910@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <8767947e0602142119m7218192an1372998196e262b9@mail.gmail.com> <2ad7cea10602151121t57708d20pfa62ee95fa9a8d9@mail.gmail.com> <43F38DDE.4050609@targetdevelopment.at> <20060215205836.GA19758@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060220203040.GA9910@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43FB1EAB.60101@wowway.com> Bill Nottingham wrote: > If you're seeing this happen, please run: > > http://people.redhat.com/notting/ddc-fu.2 > > and let me know if: > > a) it crashes > b) it displays useful information about your monitor > > Bill > > I actually get useful information about my monitor. Running x86_64 kernel 2.6.15-1.1969_FC5 with an updated system as of 2/21/06 and selinux disabled. This returns the incorrect monitor id/desc but it's the same incorrect monitor that Fedora has been detecting since FC2 or before. class: VIDEO bus: DDC detached: 0 desc: "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 Board - p222-2n" mem: 262144 - class: MONITOR bus: DDC detached: 0 desc: "PTS03e5" id: PTS03e5 horizSyncMin: 30 horizSyncMax: 98 vertRefreshMin: 50 vertRefreshMax: 160 mode: 640x480 mode: 640x480 mode: 800x600 mode: 800x600 mode: 1024x768 mode: 1280x1024 mode: 1600x1200 mode: 640x480 Demond From ellson at research.att.com Tue Feb 21 14:07:51 2006 From: ellson at research.att.com (John Ellson) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:07:51 -0500 Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? In-Reply-To: <20060221035356.GA9327@redhat.com> References: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> <20060221035356.GA9327@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43FB1EB7.1030100@research.att.com> Dave Jones wrote: > - When bugs have been in NEEDINFO states for _months_. > If the user has got tired reporting 'bug still there', > there's not a lot more I can do, and closing these bugs > does 'wake up' a bunch of dormant bugs. > A problem with the NEEDINFO states is that the bug disappears from the "my bugs" query in bugzilla, so if the user misses the email (or puts it off and then forgets) the bug is probably lost. There is an RFE for bugs in the NEEDINFO state to be listed in "my bugs" in BZ# 174930 John From chrisw01 at comcast.net Tue Feb 21 14:21:50 2006 From: chrisw01 at comcast.net (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:21:50 -0700 Subject: VMware Workstation and FC5T2 Working?? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0602210326p61c1a69cu16742e552b5f45bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <43EB2B39.1050106@rogers.com> <1139486626.4112.34.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <4c4ba1530602090640t312aa975y78a170c4b3e4c362@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0602171529k4e2fe4a9ja8fc8eb479d7fbd2@mail.gmail.com> <43FA6722.7020908@rogers.com> <13dbfe4f0602210326p61c1a69cu16742e552b5f45bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140531710.3488.4.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 12:26 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > Did you untar the two files and make the necessary changes to the module > > c files. Then re-tar them? > > I can confirm that the two patches worked just fine for me. > > > > > yes, I needed to re-tar it > Have a look at my post > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2006/02/vmware-player-and-livecd.html > > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > I have Workstation 5.5.1 now working on FC5T3 with a fresh install of VMware and the latest patch from: http://knihovny.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/ Starting with the vmware-any-any-update97.tar.gz patch, the software now "complains" about a few things when compiling, but it does work. ...and pretty well at that. It will probably work on FC5T2 as well, but I upgraded to T3 before giving it a try. Cheers, Chris -- ====================== "Never murder a man when he's busy committing suicide." -- Woodrow Wilson From jvian10 at charter.net Tue Feb 21 14:37:18 2006 From: jvian10 at charter.net (Jeff Vian) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:37:18 -0600 Subject: cd image sizes? In-Reply-To: <1140504974.17286.78.camel@ender> References: <20060221043459.GA3366@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1140504974.17286.78.camel@ender> Message-ID: <1140532638.25068.71.camel@eagle.lab.net> On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 22:56 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 23:34 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > > I've downloaded the CD images and started to write them to CD-RW, only > > to find that they require 700MB blanks. Is this an oversight or > > intentional? > > > > It was intentional for this release. Our sizes were creeping again, and > it was either bump to a higher number of CDs or bump the size of the > CDs. In the past, larger CD sizes caused problems. We were hoping to > see if there was any complaints this time around to see if we can safely > bump it in a more perm manner. > I have not found any 650mb CDs for over a year (and would not have purchased them if available). I certainly see no problem with the larger size. From tony.molloy at ul.ie Tue Feb 21 14:43:35 2006 From: tony.molloy at ul.ie (Tony Molloy) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:43:35 +0000 Subject: XFS problem with test releases Message-ID: <200602211443.35891.tony.molloy@ul.ie> Hi Mike, I've just done an default install of FC5-t3 from the iso's and everything went OK. No problems with the font catalogue. Then I installed all the xorg packages yum --exclude=\*debuginfo\* install xorg\* and the font catalogue was still intact. I then installed everything from the base distribution and the font catalogue was still intact. So it looks like the xfs error bugzilla 179006 is sorted. Regards, Tony -- Tony Molloy. Dept. of Comp. Sci. University of Limerick From cmadams at hiwaay.net Tue Feb 21 14:45:40 2006 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:45:40 -0600 Subject: cd image sizes? In-Reply-To: <1140532638.25068.71.camel@eagle.lab.net> References: <20060221043459.GA3366@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1140504974.17286.78.camel@ender> <1140532638.25068.71.camel@eagle.lab.net> Message-ID: <20060221144540.GA1107744@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Jeff Vian said: > I have not found any 650mb CDs for over a year (and would not have > purchased them if available). I certainly see no problem with the > larger size. Note the OP said "CD-RW". Most CD-RW discs are still 650M. 700M CD-RWs are available, but you have to hunt for them (not typically in the local stores I've checked). -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From marian_kopala at wp.pl Tue Feb 21 20:52:07 2006 From: marian_kopala at wp.pl (Marian Kopala) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:52:07 -0500 Subject: kernel-2.6.15-1.1969_FC5.i686 Message-ID: <1140555128.11340.2.camel@amigos> Welcome! After install development packages: Installing: kernel ##################### [ 64/136] error: %post(kernel-2.6.15-1.1969_FC5.i686) scriptlet failed, signal 2 Marian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: To jest cz??? listu podpisana cyfrowo URL: From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Tue Feb 21 14:58:45 2006 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:58:45 -0500 Subject: cd image sizes? Message-ID: Chris Adams on 02/21/2006 09:45 AM replied: > Once upon a time, Jeff Vian said: > > I have not found any 650mb CDs for over a year (and would not have > > purchased them if available). I certainly see no problem with the > > larger size. > > Note the OP said "CD-RW". Most CD-RW discs are still 650M. 700M CD-RWs > are available, but you have to hunt for them (not typically in the local > stores I've checked). I haven't seen 650M CD-RWs in _years_. I'd be hard pressed to find any in any local store around here. From tmraz at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 15:13:45 2006 From: tmraz at redhat.com (Tomas Mraz) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:13:45 +0100 Subject: cd image sizes? In-Reply-To: <20060221144540.GA1107744@hiwaay.net> References: <20060221043459.GA3366@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1140504974.17286.78.camel@ender> <1140532638.25068.71.camel@eagle.lab.net> <20060221144540.GA1107744@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1140534826.3421.10.camel@perun.redhat.usu> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 08:45 -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Jeff Vian said: > > I have not found any 650mb CDs for over a year (and would not have > > purchased them if available). I certainly see no problem with the > > larger size. > > Note the OP said "CD-RW". Most CD-RW discs are still 650M. 700M CD-RWs > are available, but you have to hunt for them (not typically in the local > stores I've checked). Where do you live? 700MB CD-RW and CD-R are pretty much standard here in Czech Republic. You'd have to hunt for 650M ones. -- Tomas Mraz From nathanbullock at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 16:19:22 2006 From: nathanbullock at gmail.com (nathan bullock) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:19:22 -0700 Subject: CD drive dead on install Message-ID: <916b88c10602210819j42c89ba2teddc7f192432b687@mail.gmail.com> Okay I tried installing the FC5 T3 x86-64. First CD installed, ejected, asked for second CD. When I put in the second CD nothing happened, the CD didn't even spin up. And when I pushed OK fedora would just give me some error about still wanting the second CD. Any ideas? What information would be most useful to you guys? Should I be entering this into bugzilla? I have a LG cd burner. I have a PCCHIPS motherboard.. I don't have the details with me right now. Sempron Socket 754. (+2600 I think). Nathan From jvdias at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 16:25:47 2006 From: jvdias at redhat.com (Jason Vas Dias) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:25:47 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: dhcp-3.0.2-34.FC4 Message-ID: <200602211625.k1LGPl107789@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-122 2006-02-21 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : dhcp Version : 3.0.2 Release : 34.FC4 Summary : A DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) server and relay agent. Description : DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) is a protocol which allows individual devices on an IP network to get their own network configuration information (IP address, subnetmask, broadcast address, etc.) from a DHCP server. The overall purpose of DHCP is to make it easier to administer a large network. The dhcp package includes the ISC DHCP service and relay agent. To use DHCP on your network, install a DHCP service (or relay agent), and on clients run a DHCP client daemon. The dhcp package provides the ISC DHCP service and relay agent. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 11:3.0.2-34 - Apply upstream fix for bug 176615 / ISC RT#15811 * Tue Feb 14 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 11:3.0.2-32 - fix bug 181482: resolv.conf not updated on RENEW : since dhcp-3.0.1rc12-RHScript.patch: "$new_domain_servers" should have been "$new_domain_name_servers" :-( --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 1816a1e91f468256ac349ea0683892060aec5ba1 SRPMS/dhcp-3.0.2-34.FC4.src.rpm fbb0978ecbb65b9cb8aea62729512e8274d23e8c ppc/dhcp-3.0.2-34.FC4.ppc.rpm 515dfeb2ebe266629d5327073e642f75745699bf ppc/dhclient-3.0.2-34.FC4.ppc.rpm ad6d9465f79b015edf1b153de59b9eee96540470 ppc/dhcp-devel-3.0.2-34.FC4.ppc.rpm 5b27c4af6340b26107c6323ab85a2335e792fbd9 ppc/debug/dhcp-debuginfo-3.0.2-34.FC4.ppc.rpm e0c4fff8a03539fb38d6a9ddda9c20d76b0d5b0a x86_64/dhcp-3.0.2-34.FC4.x86_64.rpm 6522c467472a6c6d88f1ea9c6808f99ef0d0b7dc x86_64/dhclient-3.0.2-34.FC4.x86_64.rpm 2908891762e7f521a80302444b471e9f917ac710 x86_64/dhcp-devel-3.0.2-34.FC4.x86_64.rpm 51ca1034b923da85da4e95feb4a43aeec2e028fb x86_64/debug/dhcp-debuginfo-3.0.2-34.FC4.x86_64.rpm 93231561189a9235ca8c20f47e0b098bf9adea72 i386/dhcp-3.0.2-34.FC4.i386.rpm 2719334a781e8302951c1060b08cf2a57a25540e i386/dhclient-3.0.2-34.FC4.i386.rpm 1c525440d3ff5370c99ec8ecf9abb823cc9300b5 i386/dhcp-devel-3.0.2-34.FC4.i386.rpm 0e9029236ab21e2f8211161b8121c40e4ded42d3 i386/debug/dhcp-debuginfo-3.0.2-34.FC4.i386.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Feb 21 16:44:03 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:44:03 -0500 Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? In-Reply-To: <43FB1EB7.1030100@research.att.com> References: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> <20060221035356.GA9327@redhat.com> <43FB1EB7.1030100@research.att.com> Message-ID: <20060221164403.GA23372@wolves.durham.nc.us> On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 09:07:51AM -0500, John Ellson wrote: > Dave Jones wrote: > >- When bugs have been in NEEDINFO states for _months_. > > If the user has got tired reporting 'bug still there', > > there's not a lot more I can do, and closing these bugs > > does 'wake up' a bunch of dormant bugs. > > > A problem with the NEEDINFO states is that the bug disappears from the > "my bugs" query in bugzilla, > so if the user misses the email (or puts it off and then forgets) the > bug is probably lost. > > There is an RFE for bugs in the NEEDINFO state to be listed in "my bugs" > in BZ# 174930 > > John ASSI state also needs to be in user my bug lists. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From chris at tylers.info Tue Feb 21 16:50:00 2006 From: chris at tylers.info (Chris Tyler) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:50:00 -0500 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <20060220170021.D176573832@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060220170021.D176573832@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140540600.8978.74.camel@concord2.proximity.on.ca> Bill Nottingham wrote: > Subject: Re: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: <20060220164325.GA17008 at devserv.devel.redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Michel Salim (michel.salim at gmail.com) said: > > Davyd Madeley has released his latest GNOME preview: > > http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/ > > > > and it has some interesting features, such as the new fast-user > > switching interface resembling OS X's. I recall previous incarnations > > of this feature being explicitly removed from Fedora's GNOME; would > > that explain why as of now this feature is absent from the RPMs in > > -devel ? > > Yes - basically, without finding a good, solid solution to device > ownership (groups aren't it), having fast user switching on is > very problematic. > > Bill An argument in favor of including fast user switching in Fedora: I do a fair bit of work with multiseat systems, and I'm composing this on a 3-seat FC4 box (one CPU, 3 video cards/sound cards/keyboards/mice). I think we're going to see a lot more multiseat systems in the future, because X11R7 has made it much easier to set them up and because they make a lot of sense in certain contexts - including libraries, classrooms, kiosks, developing nations, even home offices. There are a lot of design decisions currently being made on the desktop which reflect a single-user paradigm, and which do not work well with any multiuser graphical setup, whether multiseat, LTSP, fast user switching (FUS), or some other scheme (such as browser-based VNC access). One simple example: when an audio CD is inserted into an FC4 multiseat system, gnome-cd starts by default on _all_ of the user's desktops. One of the processes is able to grab the drive and play the tunes, but all of the other gnome-cd processes start consuming 100% CPU. This is an obvious problem and there's probably a simple fix - at least for the CPU usage spike - but the gnome-cd developers may never have considered this use case nor encountered the problem in testing. FUS is by far the simplest and least expensive (effort, hardware) way to test out simultaneous desktop users (true, they're not using the desktop simultaneously, but the desktops are running simultaneously). By including FUS capability in Fedora Core, we could expose more people to the issues affecting multiple desktops and hopefully get some light shining on what are presently viewed as corner cases. In other words, we'll see FUS working well sooner if we turn it on now when it mostly-works rather than waiting for it to get fixed first; all multiuser configurations will benefit from the wider exposure of the community to multiple simultaneous desktops, not just FUS; and we'll reduce the number of single-user design and coding decisions that will later have to be retrofitted for multiuser operation. -- Chris Tyler From jreiser at BitWagon.com Tue Feb 21 16:55:42 2006 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:55:42 -0800 Subject: cd image sizes? In-Reply-To: <1140534826.3421.10.camel@perun.redhat.usu> References: <20060221043459.GA3366@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1140504974.17286.78.camel@ender> <1140532638.25068.71.camel@eagle.lab.net> <20060221144540.GA1107744@hiwaay.net> <1140534826.3421.10.camel@perun.redhat.usu> Message-ID: <43FB460E.2040304@BitWagon.com> >>>I have not found any 650mb CDs for over a year (and would not have >>>purchased them if available). I certainly see no problem with the >>>larger size. >> >>Note the OP said "CD-RW". Most CD-RW discs are still 650M. 700M CD-RWs >>are available, but you have to hunt for them (not typically in the local >>stores I've checked). > > Where do you live? 700MB CD-RW and CD-R are pretty much standard here in > Czech Republic. You'd have to hunt for 650M ones. To buy them new today, of course. But could it be that 650MB CD-RW outnumber 700MB CD-RW because the smaller ones have been on the market longer? With reasonable care they last for 800 to 1000 writings, which is 2.5 to 3 years at once per day. -- From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Feb 21 17:00:48 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:00:48 +0100 Subject: cd image sizes? In-Reply-To: <1140534826.3421.10.camel@perun.redhat.usu> References: <20060221043459.GA3366@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1140504974.17286.78.camel@ender> <1140532638.25068.71.camel@eagle.lab.net> <20060221144540.GA1107744@hiwaay.net> <1140534826.3421.10.camel@perun.redhat.usu> Message-ID: <43FB4740.4030709@gmx.de> On 21.02.2006 16:13, Tomas Mraz wrote: >> Note the OP said "CD-RW". Most CD-RW discs are still 650M. 700M CD-RWs >> >>are available, but you have to hunt for them (not typically in the local >>stores I've checked). >> >> >Where do you live? 700MB CD-RW and CD-R are pretty much standard here in >Czech Republic. You'd have to hunt for 650M ones. > in a little local store (germany) i had no great choice 700 mb cd-rw a 9,95 eur or 700 mb cd-rw a 0,95 eur 2 x 0,95 = 1,90 eur this is ok for the next few years ;-) -- shrek-m From notting at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 17:02:33 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:02:33 -0500 Subject: Kudzu fails with segfault on FC5 Test 3 on HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook In-Reply-To: <1140504194.4061.22.camel@stantonfinley.org> References: <1140497548.4061.18.camel@stantonfinley.org> <1140504194.4061.22.camel@stantonfinley.org> Message-ID: <20060221170233.GD3831@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Stanton Finley (stanfinley at comcast.net) said: > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 21:52 -0700, Stanton Finley wrote: > > Kudzu fails with segfault on FC5 Test 3 on HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook > > with the message "Checking for hardware changes/etc/rc5.d/S05kudzu: line > > 23: 1357 Segmentation fault /sbin/kudzu $KUDZU_ARGS [FAILED]". > > > > This occurs with SELinux enabled or disabled or upon relabeling. > > > > The kernel running is the original FC5t3 > > kernel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor-i686. > > > > The notebook uses a 1.6 GHz AMD Mobile Sempron? Processor 2800+ with > > PowerNow!? Technology. > > > This problem does not occur with the non-hypervisor kernel. This begs > the question should the hypervisor kernel be installed by default for > this processor? Did you ask for the HV kernel or for virtualization? Bill From notting at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 17:04:03 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:04:03 -0500 Subject: kernel-2.6.15-1.1969_FC5.i686 In-Reply-To: <1140555128.11340.2.camel@amigos> References: <1140555128.11340.2.camel@amigos> Message-ID: <20060221170403.GE3831@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Marian Kopala (marian_kopala at wp.pl) said: > After install development packages: > > Installing: kernel ##################### [ 64/136] > error: %post(kernel-2.6.15-1.1969_FC5.i686) scriptlet failed, signal 2 That's SIGINT... just to make sure, you didn't hit Ctrl-C, did you? Bill From stanfinley at comcast.net Tue Feb 21 17:15:20 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:15:20 -0700 Subject: Kudzu fails with segfault on FC5 Test 3 on HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook In-Reply-To: <20060221170233.GD3831@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1140497548.4061.18.camel@stantonfinley.org> <1140504194.4061.22.camel@stantonfinley.org> <20060221170233.GD3831@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140542120.3531.6.camel@stantonfinley.org> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 12:02 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Did you ask for the HV kernel or for virtualization? > > Bill > Bill, I probably unwittingly asked for virtualization by checking everything at installation time in order to get a complete system to test. Should I not expect kudzu to work with the HV kernel? Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From notting at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 17:17:25 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:17:25 -0500 Subject: Kudzu fails with segfault on FC5 Test 3 on HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook In-Reply-To: <1140542120.3531.6.camel@stantonfinley.org> References: <1140497548.4061.18.camel@stantonfinley.org> <1140504194.4061.22.camel@stantonfinley.org> <20060221170233.GD3831@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1140542120.3531.6.camel@stantonfinley.org> Message-ID: <20060221171725.GA20995@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Stanton Finley (stanfinley at comcast.net) said: > Bill, I probably unwittingly asked for virtualization by checking > everything at installation time in order to get a complete system to > test. Should I not expect kudzu to work with the HV kernel? Well, you should expect it to work, but it's known that it doesn't. :) Bill From jreiser at BitWagon.com Tue Feb 21 17:17:46 2006 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:17:46 -0800 Subject: FC5test3 installer hangs "running /sbin/loader" Message-ID: <43FB4B3A.40003@BitWagon.com> The installer hangs "running /sbin/loader" on i686 using the FC5test3 DVD. Almost certianly, this is the same as the long-running bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179601 which is hardware-specific to SiS 730 chipset. Old kernel-2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5 runs properly. I have some time to debug this, but I'd like a pointer or two to help me get started on the right path from the top. The leading suspect is USB probing and/or related stuff. Does gitbisect work here? Please suggest; thanks. -- From stanfinley at comcast.net Tue Feb 21 17:21:47 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:21:47 -0700 Subject: Kudzu fails with segfault on FC5 Test 3 on HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook In-Reply-To: <20060221170233.GD3831@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1140497548.4061.18.camel@stantonfinley.org> <1140504194.4061.22.camel@stantonfinley.org> <20060221170233.GD3831@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140542507.3531.9.camel@stantonfinley.org> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 12:02 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Did you ask for the HV kernel or for virtualization? > > Bill Bill, sorry. I just got notice of the bug already being addressed. ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179013 ) Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From davej at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 17:40:52 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:40:52 -0500 Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? In-Reply-To: <6c3f5e6c0602210323j393416d2kdcb06a9852145ede@mail.gmail.com> References: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> <20060221035356.GA9327@redhat.com> <6c3f5e6c0602210323j393416d2kdcb06a9852145ede@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060221174052.GA22988@redhat.com> On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 06:23:29AM -0500, gb spam wrote: > > Over the following few days, _dozens_ of bugs then get closed by the > > reporters (sadly there's a bunch that report "yup, is fixed", but > > still leave me to go close the bug for them). > > Closed for the reporter doesn't necessarily mean closed for everybody > who has been folowing the bug (withor without posting to it), or > closed to the satisfaction of the maintainer - who may have been made > aware of more gotchas than the reporter. 9 times out of 10, if its closed by the reporter, and others are 'still seeing it', it's a different bug that really deserves its own bug report. Bugzilla makes this easy with its clone tools. The usefulness of a bug actually goes down over time as more and more people start adding unrelated issues to it thinking they have the same problem. Once it diverges from the original problem enough, it gets to a state where you either close it when the original reporter is happy, or you end up with a bug with so much random noise, that it's next to impossible to make enough sense out of the bug to make everyone happy. It's why I try to get to the bottom of (or at least root cause so I change the summary) bugs with summaries like "the kernel oopsed", "my sound card doesnt work". Making a bug summary as specific as possible stops other people who are searching for bugs jumping in with "Hey, I saw an oops once too!" and pasting a half dozen comments on something completely unrelated. Splitting off bugs after the reporter is happy to 'start fresh' on any other problems really is the best way to keep things readable due to bugzillas lack of comment threading. Dave From davej at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 17:41:53 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:41:53 -0500 Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? In-Reply-To: <43FB1EB7.1030100@research.att.com> References: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> <20060221035356.GA9327@redhat.com> <43FB1EB7.1030100@research.att.com> Message-ID: <20060221174153.GB22988@redhat.com> On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 09:07:51AM -0500, John Ellson wrote: > Dave Jones wrote: > >- When bugs have been in NEEDINFO states for _months_. > > If the user has got tired reporting 'bug still there', > > there's not a lot more I can do, and closing these bugs > > does 'wake up' a bunch of dormant bugs. > > > A problem with the NEEDINFO states is that the bug disappears from the > "my bugs" query in bugzilla, > so if the user misses the email (or puts it off and then forgets) the > bug is probably lost. Bugs I've filed that have been put into that state by other developers have definitly shown up in my bug list. File a bug on bugzilla? Dave From bruno at wolff.to Tue Feb 21 17:54:10 2006 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:54:10 -0600 Subject: cd image sizes? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060221175410.GB27151@wolff.to> On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 09:58:45 -0500, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > Chris Adams on 02/21/2006 09:45 AM replied: > > > Once upon a time, Jeff Vian said: > > > I have not found any 650mb CDs for over a year (and would not have > > > purchased them if available). I certainly see no problem with the > > > larger size. > > > > Note the OP said "CD-RW". Most CD-RW discs are still 650M. 700M CD-RWs > > are available, but you have to hunt for them (not typically in the local > > stores I've checked). > > I haven't seen 650M CD-RWs in _years_. > I'd be hard pressed to find any in any local store around here. But since they are reusable, people who bought them several years ago may still have them. I have a bunch of 700MB CDRs, but my CDRWs are still 650MB. My plan had been to burn FC5T3 on CDRWs, since it would only be a month before they would be scrap. From khirano at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 18:00:54 2006 From: khirano at gmail.com (Kazunari Hirano) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 03:00:54 +0900 Subject: Announcing Fedora Core 5 Test 3 In-Reply-To: <1140458562.2312.79.camel@ender> References: <1140458562.2312.79.camel@ender> Message-ID: Hi Jesse, Congratulations! > Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Now Available > ================================== > ..... > Notable Features of FC5 Test 3 > ============================== ..... > * Unified SRPM set instead of one per arch Can you tell me more about this feature? I thought there has been a single SRPM for every arch. Please correct me if I am wrong ;) Thanks, khirano From jkeating at j2solutions.net Tue Feb 21 18:02:19 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:02:19 -0800 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <43FAD902.3060906@interia.pl> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43FA63F5.4060202@interia.pl> <1140483154.17286.68.camel@ender> <43FAD902.3060906@interia.pl> Message-ID: <1140544939.17286.93.camel@ender> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 10:10 +0100, Marcin Grabda wrote: > > That's why I asked about providing option to enable that feature when > needed. Maybe it's ugly but under some circumstances it's really useful. The concept of the feature isn't the ugly part. What has to be done to the devices and permissions is what is ugly. Windows accomplishes it in a very ugly way that can easily lead to security or corruption issues. Linux isn't quite ready to do this in a safe / sane way. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jkeating at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 18:06:31 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:06:31 -0800 Subject: Announcing Fedora Core 5 Test 3 In-Reply-To: References: <1140458562.2312.79.camel@ender> Message-ID: <1140545192.17286.97.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 03:00 +0900, Kazunari Hirano wrote: > Can you tell me more about this feature? > I thought there has been a single SRPM for every arch. > Please correct me if I am wrong ;) > Thanks, > khirano Yes, there is a single srpm that will generate binary rpms for each arch. However not every arch gets every package, and some packages are specific to just one arch. s390-utils and the like. This would mean that given the binary packages in a given arch, the source package set could vary between each arch. In the past, the specific source package set was spun into isos for each arch creating slightly different iso sets for each arch and a lot of wasted space. Now all the srpms used for any arch are put in a single directory, and that directory is used to spin a single set of source isos. Much less wasted space and much easier to bypass the sources when you are downloading or mirroring. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From don_springall at hotmail.com Tue Feb 21 18:14:49 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:14:49 -0700 Subject: Yum & BitTorrent Message-ID: Has anyone looked at the feasibility of yum and pirut using bittorent for downloads of updates ? Would this even work or help ? From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 21 18:17:40 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:47:40 +0530 Subject: Yum & BitTorrent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43FB5944.4030706@fedoraproject.org> Don Springall wrote: > Has anyone looked at the feasibility of yum and pirut using bittorent > for downloads of updates ? Would this even work or help ? > Yum-devel list had discussions on using torrent which can be summarized as unfeasible. Not sure about Pirut. Guess its the same answer. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Feb 21 18:21:45 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:21:45 -0500 Subject: Yum & BitTorrent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1140546105.31787.21.camel@cutter> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 11:14 -0700, Don Springall wrote: > Has anyone looked at the feasibility of yum and pirut using bittorent for > downloads of updates ? Would this even work or help ? google for it on yum mailing list. it's been well explained. -sv From gnomeuser at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 18:31:40 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:31:40 +0100 Subject: Yum & BitTorrent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1140546700.3165.17.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> tir, 21 02 2006 kl. 11:14 -0700, skrev Don Springall: > Has anyone looked at the feasibility of yum and pirut using bittorent for > downloads of updates ? Would this even work or help ? bittorrent is really optimized for files in the 100 MB range, and we don't have many of those in the repos - also how would we justify the upload on dial up? - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Tue Feb 21 18:36:29 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:36:29 +0100 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <8b148baa0602202053m36861b5eib4f6ac9b6dccd127@mail.gmail.com> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <20060221001605.GB25007@redhat.com> <1140487599.18814.0.camel@halflap> <8b148baa0602201949u33aab6f7ofa930ccd14d3f9a0@mail.gmail.com> <8b148baa0602202053m36861b5eib4f6ac9b6dccd127@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43FB5DAD.80205@feuerpokemon.de> I have read in the wiki that it does not work on 64bit systems... why? which kind of bug does prevent it from working? From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Tue Feb 21 19:15:14 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:15:14 +0100 Subject: cd image sizes? In-Reply-To: <20060221175410.GB27151@wolff.to> References: <20060221175410.GB27151@wolff.to> Message-ID: <43FB66C2.6050904@feuerpokemon.de> Bruno Wolff III wrote: >On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 09:58:45 -0500, > Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > >>Chris Adams on 02/21/2006 09:45 AM replied: >> >> >> >>>Once upon a time, Jeff Vian said: >>> >>> >>>>I have not found any 650mb CDs for over a year (and would not have >>>>purchased them if available). I certainly see no problem with the >>>>larger size. >>>> >>>> >>>Note the OP said "CD-RW". Most CD-RW discs are still 650M. 700M CD-RWs >>>are available, but you have to hunt for them (not typically in the local >>>stores I've checked). >>> >>> >>I haven't seen 650M CD-RWs in _years_. >>I'd be hard pressed to find any in any local store around here. >> >> > >But since they are reusable, people who bought them several years ago >may still have them. I have a bunch of 700MB CDRs, but my CDRWs are still >650MB. My plan had been to burn FC5T3 on CDRWs, since it would only be a >month before they would be scrap. > > > a cd-r costs allmost nothing... From selinux at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 19:18:12 2006 From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:18:12 -0800 Subject: suspend, laptop, dock.... USB devices not 'discovered' Message-ID: <4c4ba1530602211118r76f9b835se7044834d0097f97@mail.gmail.com> Runing latest Rawhide, targeted/enforcing. I run my laptop at home without a dock, and at my office with a dock. So the USB 'environment' is quite different. This morning, I 'suspended' at home; at work, I inserted in dock and pressed the button to 'resume'. The system came up OK, except the USB devices (including mouse, keyboard, etc.) were not discovered and provisioned. Checking /var/log/messages show no obvious failure/error messages. Anyone else seeing this? tom -- Tom London From nutello at sweetness.com Tue Feb 21 19:37:49 2006 From: nutello at sweetness.com (Rudi Chiarito) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:37:49 +0100 Subject: FC5 Test 3 font rendering Message-ID: <20060221193748.GA23181@plain.rackshack.net> I noticed some strange rendering problems with fonts with FC5T3. Maybe others can confirm what I am seeing. The problems are more evident with font used by Anaconda, which should be Nimbus Sans. First of all, kerning is wrong around characters (glyps) that are underlined, e.g. menu or button keyboard shortcuts. At the end of the installation, the "Reboot" button appears. The 't' is underlined so that Alt+T will trigger the button. The spacing between the 't' and the 'o' preceding it is wrong; the two letters touch when they really shouldn't. This is what I remember from memory, it might not be the 't' that is actually underlined, but you get the point. You can easily see the problem elsewhere. Then, there seems to be medium hinting enabled, which makes text render poorly. I've also seen this in a screenshot that Jeremy had on his blog several months ago. It looks like there's poor grid fitting or something close to that. Not only glyphs are uneven, the kerning is negatively affected, too (check out 'width' in the 'Fixed width font' string). If antialiasing is enabled, it appears to me that selecting 'None' for the Hinting setting in the Font rendering details results in more legible text. Unlike the other problem, though, this might be due to the fact that I updated the box from FC4 and might have older settings left around, so I'd welcome any confirmations that this is reproducible. Just switch to Nimbus Sans L as the Application font and toggle back and forth between 'None' and 'Medium' hinting in the advanced font preferences window. Is there a reason for defaulting to Medium given the fonts available today? -- Rudi From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 21 19:39:29 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:39:29 +1100 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <43FB0657.7040508@fedoraproject.org> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> <8767947e0602171634x44b8072dh350ea94ecda6cbb0@mail.gmail.com> <43FB05D6.3090707@mchsi.com> <43FB0657.7040508@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43FB6C71.9070103@bigpond.net.au> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > James Jones wrote: > >> Jonathan Berry wrote: >> >>> On 2/17/06, Miles Lane wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, I know that there are avid fans of the "Spatial" UI, >>>> but please let me choose defaulting to hierarchical directory >>>> browsing. >>>> >>> I'm afraid you chose a bad example here; you can configure that :-) >>> (thankfully). I cannot stand the spacial view in Nautilus either. >>> Open up a Nautilus window, Edit -> Preferences -> Behavior[tab] -> >>> Always open in browser windows[checkbox]. >>> >> >> Yes, but... wasn't that only added after users raised a major ruckus >> about the imposition of spatial mode? I guess there would be no use then in requesting either fedora or upstream nautilus to default to hierarchical mode rather than the current mode. The current mode quickly covers users desktops with windows for now reason... The first thing we do at work for all our clients with a new Windows install is to modify the registry so that by default clicking any explorer icon / my computer etc. opens up explorer with the tree view on the left, and turn the show folder path as the explorer window title. This really helps people to take notice of where they are saving files on both local and shared disks; whether related to particular jobs, or product info, it helps people put files in the right place without creating desktop garbage (upteen open explorer single folder view windows, that they then have to close). If we wanted Windows faults, I'm sure we would just buy Windows, rather than having the opportunity of smart / effective defaults in Fedora. If it can't be a permanent change, perhaps the post install configuration could have this as an added option: Show folders using the efficient / smart single nautilus window v's Show folders using microsoft's dodgy and time wasting method :-) DaveT. From lsatenstein at yahoo.com Tue Feb 21 20:04:10 2006 From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:04:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Kudzo segmentation fault on standard desktop machine. Message-ID: <20060221200410.95015.qmail@web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It is ok with core4 and was ok with tes2. Seg fault occuring with test3. Why is hypervisor loading? I did not ask for it's install. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notting at redhat.com Tue Feb 21 20:05:38 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:05:38 -0500 Subject: Kudzo segmentation fault on standard desktop machine. In-Reply-To: <20060221200410.95015.qmail@web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060221200410.95015.qmail@web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060221200538.GE32666@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Leslie Satenstein (lsatenstein at yahoo.com) said: > It is ok with core4 and was ok with tes2. Seg fault occuring with test3. Why is hypervisor loading? Known issue. > I did not ask for it's install. Did you select the 'virtualization' group? Bill From gsimpson at mountaincable.net Tue Feb 21 20:09:36 2006 From: gsimpson at mountaincable.net (glenn) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:09:36 -0500 Subject: Kudzo segmentation fault on standard desktop machine. In-Reply-To: <20060221200538.GE32666@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20060221200410.95015.qmail@web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060221200538.GE32666@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43FB7380.9010908@mountaincable.net> Bill Nottingham wrote: > Leslie Satenstein (lsatenstein at yahoo.com) said: > >>It is ok with core4 and was ok with tes2. Seg fault occuring with test3. Why is hypervisor loading? > > > Known issue. > > >>I did not ask for it's install. > > > Did you select the 'virtualization' group? > You selected Xen to be installed. I also did on my first install and observed your issue. I have since re-installed FC5T3 WITHOUT Xen and kudzu does not have a complaint and it is NOT using the hypervisor kernel -- Glenn From newsmail1 at hblok.net Tue Feb 21 21:14:13 2006 From: newsmail1 at hblok.net (Havard Rast Blok) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:14:13 +0000 Subject: BitTorrent ports? Message-ID: <43FB82A5.9080907@hblok.net> Thanks guys! This was helpful. I shall certainly check out Azureus, as mentioned by DaveT. It was also good to get the port range confirmed. The download speed must have increased quite a lot after a went to bed, since it was done 7 hours later, rather than the estimated 60. As for the hardware side of things, I think I'm covered. A small (1 MB picture over web) gives about 2500-3000 Mbit/s. And LimeWire has been known to reach 100 kByte/s dl + 20 kByte/s ul. Vidal's question might interest some of you: "What sort of things are you seeing in your logs?" Well, as any online box, I get the odd request to port 139, 445, etc. every minute or so. However, the second I start up BT, I see maybe hundreds coming in on the unprivileged range, usually in the area of 20000-50000 tcp on both source and destination. Also notable, is outgoing requests to port 777 tcp about two dozen times over the ten hours I was downloading the file (seems to have stopped once the download was done, but with upload still running). These outgoing requests were all to the same two IPs, and is unseen in any of the past logs over the last month. However, I got the ISOs in the end, burnt them out and now have a fresh install of FC5/T3, and some more relevant questions... cheers, Havard -- Havard Rast Blok Web: http://hblok.net GPG/PGP key: http://hblok.net/gpg.txt From tkemp at mer-med.com Tue Feb 21 20:19:44 2006 From: tkemp at mer-med.com (Terry Kemp) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:19:44 +1300 Subject: how to use an older gcc ? In-Reply-To: <20060221131838.A138273847@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060221131838.A138273847@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140553184.24224.3.camel@FC4-AMD64-X2-4200> > Re: how to use an older gcc ? pass gcc version to configure... ./configure --cc=gcc32 (and edit config-host.mak to remove sparc if you are on x86_64) From bruno at wolff.to Tue Feb 21 20:29:43 2006 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:29:43 -0600 Subject: cd image sizes? In-Reply-To: <43FB66C2.6050904@feuerpokemon.de> References: <20060221175410.GB27151@wolff.to> <43FB66C2.6050904@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <20060221202943.GA9361@wolff.to> On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 20:15:14 +0100, dragoran wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > >But since they are reusable, people who bought them several years ago > >may still have them. I have a bunch of 700MB CDRs, but my CDRWs are still > >650MB. My plan had been to burn FC5T3 on CDRWs, since it would only be a > >month before they would be scrap. > > > > > > > a cd-r costs allmost nothing... I'm glad you have won the lottery and have no cares about money. The last time I bought them they were about $.25 US, which for me is cheap but not almost nothing. At some point I am going to figure out how to build FC isos and then I can make things the size that works for me without much trouble. I experimented with that about two weeks ago, but the isos didn't turn out right. Though they were close enough that I think I can get it to work when I have some more time to play with it. For this set, I will burn the DVD iso over 5 CDRWs at work where I have fast download ability but no convenient DVD burning. Then at home I will burn a DVD iso, which will be nicer for doing installs. When FC5 is released I will burn a set of CDRs (or perhaps two as I like to have a set available at home and the office), since those will be useful over a long period of time. From newsmail1 at hblok.net Tue Feb 21 21:39:20 2006 From: newsmail1 at hblok.net (Havard Rast Blok) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:39:20 +0000 Subject: Software Updater crash Message-ID: <43FB8888.1090605@hblok.net> I've just installed FC5/T3 fresh from CDs, and tried to run the Software Updater (under Applications->System Tools). It crashes while trying to find a repository. I wouldn't expect it to find one, since I haven't plugged in any network cable, but I did not expect a crash either. I get an Exception Occurred window, with a message "Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: development", plus some more stack trace. I'm new to bugzilla, so how do I find this application on bugzilla.redhat.com, so I can report if nobody else has already? Thanks, Havard -- Havard Rast Blok Web: http://hblok.net GPG/PGP key: http://hblok.net/gpg.txt From dgboles at comcast.net Tue Feb 21 20:39:57 2006 From: dgboles at comcast.net (David Boles) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:39:57 -0800 Subject: CD drive dead on install In-Reply-To: <916b88c10602210819j42c89ba2teddc7f192432b687@mail.gmail.com> References: <916b88c10602210819j42c89ba2teddc7f192432b687@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43FB7A9D.2070205@comcast.net> nathan bullock wrote: > Okay I tried installing the FC5 T3 x86-64. > First CD installed, ejected, asked for second CD. When I put in the > second CD nothing happened, the CD didn't even spin up. And when I > pushed OK fedora would just give me some error about still wanting the > second CD. > Any ideas? What information would be most useful to you guys? Should I > be entering this into bugzilla? > > I have a LG cd burner. > I have a PCCHIPS motherboard.. I don't have the details with me right now. > Sempron Socket 754. (+2600 I think). > > Nathan > This reference is to a different linux OS but it sounds like your problem with your LG CD drive. As I recall it happened to many linux OS's and it was the fault of LC poor firmware programing and not a linux problem. These references explain and offer solutions. http://www.chguy.com/mir/LGcdrom-fried.html and http://forum.rpc1.org/portal.php -- David From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 21 20:55:42 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:25:42 +0530 Subject: Software Updater crash In-Reply-To: <43FB8888.1090605@hblok.net> References: <43FB8888.1090605@hblok.net> Message-ID: <43FB7E4E.5020702@fedoraproject.org> Havard Rast Blok wrote: > > I've just installed FC5/T3 fresh from CDs, and tried to run the > Software Updater (under Applications->System Tools). It crashes while > trying to find a repository. I wouldn't expect it to find one, since I > haven't plugged in any network cable, but I did not expect a crash > either. > > I get an Exception Occurred window, with a message "Cannot find a > valid baseurl for repo: development", plus some more stack trace. > > I'm new to bugzilla, so how do I find this application on > bugzilla.redhat.com, so I can report if nobody else has already? I can reproduce this now. Havent been reported yet. The updater is called pup. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Feb 21 20:57:06 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:57:06 -0500 Subject: Software Updater crash In-Reply-To: <43FB7E4E.5020702@fedoraproject.org> References: <43FB8888.1090605@hblok.net> <43FB7E4E.5020702@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1140555426.31787.59.camel@cutter> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 02:25 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Havard Rast Blok wrote: > > > > > I've just installed FC5/T3 fresh from CDs, and tried to run the > > Software Updater (under Applications->System Tools). It crashes while > > trying to find a repository. I wouldn't expect it to find one, since I > > haven't plugged in any network cable, but I did not expect a crash > > either. > > > > I get an Exception Occurred window, with a message "Cannot find a > > valid baseurl for repo: development", plus some more stack trace. > > > > I'm new to bugzilla, so how do I find this application on > > bugzilla.redhat.com, so I can report if nobody else has already? > > I can reproduce this now. Havent been reported yet. The updater is > called pup. > query before you report - it's been fixed. -sv From nathanbullock at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 21:41:45 2006 From: nathanbullock at gmail.com (nathan bullock) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:41:45 -0700 Subject: CD drive dead on install In-Reply-To: <43FB7A9D.2070205@comcast.net> References: <916b88c10602210819j42c89ba2teddc7f192432b687@mail.gmail.com> <43FB7A9D.2070205@comcast.net> Message-ID: <916b88c10602211341g48d8f74dy28dbbabf330f04a1@mail.gmail.com> Doesn't really sound like the same issue. The CD isn't completely dead, a reboot of the machine returns it to a working state. On 2/21/06, David Boles wrote: > nathan bullock wrote: > > Okay I tried installing the FC5 T3 x86-64. > > First CD installed, ejected, asked for second CD. When I put in the > > second CD nothing happened, the CD didn't even spin up. And when I > > pushed OK fedora would just give me some error about still wanting the > > second CD. > > Any ideas? What information would be most useful to you guys? Should I > > be entering this into bugzilla? > > > > I have a LG cd burner. > > I have a PCCHIPS motherboard.. I don't have the details with me right now. > > Sempron Socket 754. (+2600 I think). > > > > Nathan > > > This reference is to a different linux OS but it sounds like your problem with > your LG CD drive. As I recall it happened to many linux OS's and it was the > fault of LC poor firmware programing and not a linux problem. These references > explain and offer solutions. > > http://www.chguy.com/mir/LGcdrom-fried.html > > and > > http://forum.rpc1.org/portal.php > > -- > > > David > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From brunson at brunson.com Tue Feb 21 21:29:54 2006 From: brunson at brunson.com (Eric Brunson) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:29:54 -0700 Subject: Install test3 from Hard Drive Message-ID: <43FB8652.2030807@brunson.com> Is there a way to coerce the test3 installer to read its ISO images from a filesystem on an LVM VG? From dgboles at comcast.net Tue Feb 21 23:03:38 2006 From: dgboles at comcast.net (David Boles) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:03:38 -0800 Subject: CD drive dead on install In-Reply-To: <916b88c10602211341g48d8f74dy28dbbabf330f04a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <916b88c10602210819j42c89ba2teddc7f192432b687@mail.gmail.com> <43FB7A9D.2070205@comcast.net> <916b88c10602211341g48d8f74dy28dbbabf330f04a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43FB9C4A.40809@comcast.net> nathan bullock wrote: > Doesn't really sound like the same issue. The CD isn't completely > dead, a reboot of the machine returns it to a working state. > > On 2/21/06, David Boles wrote: >> nathan bullock wrote: >>> Okay I tried installing the FC5 T3 x86-64. >>> First CD installed, ejected, asked for second CD. When I put in the >>> second CD nothing happened, the CD didn't even spin up. And when I >>> pushed OK fedora would just give me some error about still wanting the >>> second CD. >>> Any ideas? What information would be most useful to you guys? Should I >>> be entering this into bugzilla? >>> >>> I have a LG cd burner. >>> I have a PCCHIPS motherboard.. I don't have the details with me right now. >>> Sempron Socket 754. (+2600 I think). >>> >>> Nathan >>> >> This reference is to a different linux OS but it sounds like your problem with >> your LG CD drive. As I recall it happened to many linux OS's and it was the >> fault of LC poor firmware programing and not a linux problem. These references >> explain and offer solutions. >> >> http://www.chguy.com/mir/LGcdrom-fried.html >> >> and >> >> http://forum.rpc1.org/portal.php >> >> -- >> >> >> David >> >> -- >> fedora-test-list mailing list >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> > Then I stand corrected. You did not state that the drive operates after a reboot. I can offer no more information. Perhaps someone else can offer other ideas. Good luck. -- David From michel.salim at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 00:11:11 2006 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:11:11 -0500 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <883cfe6d0602211611k497ce8f1ia93111ab6c27c8a5@mail.gmail.com> On 2/20/06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Michel Salim (michel.salim at gmail.com) said: > > Davyd Madeley has released his latest GNOME preview: > > http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/ > > > > and it has some interesting features, such as the new fast-user > > switching interface resembling OS X's. I recall previous incarnations > > of this feature being explicitly removed from Fedora's GNOME; would > > that explain why as of now this feature is absent from the RPMs in > > -devel ? > > Yes - basically, without finding a good, solid solution to device > ownership (groups aren't it), having fast user switching on is > very problematic. > My naive take on this is to preserve ownership on any partitions the already-logged-in users have mounted, and to transfer PAM-managed devices without mounted partitions to the new user? -- Michel Salim http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~msalim http://the-dubois-papers.blogspot.com/ From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 00:24:34 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:24:34 -0500 Subject: GNome Desktop? Message-ID: <91f88ee20602211624x7a3a752cw7d32a476c58edb8c@mail.gmail.com> This issue still exists in FC5T2 -- can anyone confirm it is still a problem in FC5T3? http://www.insecurity.org/Screenshot.png -- WC Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Feb 22 00:25:25 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:25:25 +0000 Subject: GNome Desktop? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602211624x7a3a752cw7d32a476c58edb8c@mail.gmail.com> References: <91f88ee20602211624x7a3a752cw7d32a476c58edb8c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140567926.31940.19.camel@T7.Linux> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 19:24 -0500, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > This issue still exists in FC5T2 -- can anyone confirm it is still a > problem in FC5T3? Not seeing it from this end. TTFN Paul -- "Tr?um's nicht, Lebe schon" - Dr. Frankenfurter, Rocky Horror Show From wrrhdev at riede.org Wed Feb 22 00:27:40 2006 From: wrrhdev at riede.org (Willem Riede) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:27:40 -0500 Subject: X trouble with Intel 82810E DC-133 graphics chipset in FC5T2 In-Reply-To: <20060123045852.GA32110@redhat.com> (from davej@redhat.com on Sun Jan 22 23:58:52 2006) References: <1137801249l.6895l.1l@athena.riede.org> <1137992015.21521.10.camel@bree.local.net> <20060123045852.GA32110@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140568060l.15302l.2l@athena.riede.org> On 01/22/2006 11:58:52 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 11:53:35PM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 18:54 -0500, Willem Riede wrote: > > I tried to > upgrade an oldish Dell Optiplex GX110 that's now running FC3 > > > to FC5T2, and this is how far I got: > > [snip] > > Known problem? Should I bugzilla? Provide more information? > > > It looks like this is probably due to agpgart going away from the i586 > > kernel (which is used as the CD kernel). Can you file a bug against the > > kernel asking for it to be re-added as it's needed for this reason? > > I missed the original post. I assume this is some shared-mem video problem? > Anyway, I just re-added it. I'm happy to report that this problem no longer exists in FC5T3, however, this PC now reproducibly locks up hard after several mintus of "Starting Install Process". Nothing on screen to indicate what happened. The old FC3 stll boots. Anaconda had created install.log and install.log.syslog, but both files are empty. Regards, Willem Riede. From gbofspam at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 00:55:20 2006 From: gbofspam at gmail.com (gb spam) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:55:20 -0500 Subject: Crash during bootloader installation (FC5T3) Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0602211655g546c5741v367de660ba6eddb4@mail.gmail.com> FC5T3 crashed during install of the bootloader (on to sda9 rather than the MBR) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1253, in handleRenderCallback self.currentWindow.renderCallback() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/iw/progress_gui.py", line 245, in renderCallback self.intf.icw.nextClicked() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 951, in nextClicked self.dispatch.gotoNext() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 146, in gotoNext self.moveStep() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 217, in moveStep rc = apply(func, self.bindArgs(args)) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/bootloader.py", line 178, in writeBootloader justConfigFile, intf) File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 1190, in write justConfig | (not self.useGrubVal)) File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 849, in writeGrub f.write('\trootnoverify %s\n' % self.grubbyPartitionName(device)) File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 989, in grubbyPartitionName return "(%s,%d)" % (self.grubbyDiskName(name), partNum) File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 984, in grubbyDiskName return "hd%d" % self.drivelist.index(name) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list Any ideas? From gstool at earthlink.net Wed Feb 22 00:58:36 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:58:36 -0600 Subject: GNome Desktop? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602211624x7a3a752cw7d32a476c58edb8c@mail.gmail.com> References: <91f88ee20602211624x7a3a752cw7d32a476c58edb8c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140569916.2636.1.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 19:24 -0500, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > This issue still exists in FC5T2 -- can anyone confirm it is still a > problem in FC5T3? > > http://www.insecurity.org/Screenshot.png Nothing like that here in any of the FC5Tx releases. Have you posted a bugzilla report and the pertinent graphics environment data? My graphics card is an ATI 7500. Gerry From gbofspam at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 01:05:06 2006 From: gbofspam at gmail.com (gb spam) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:05:06 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 my keyboard is possessed Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0602211705o619833ddla0007fda78cc8fc8@mail.gmail.com> I've installed 5T3 on a Sony Vaio PCG Z600TEK, and all was fine as I was only using it through VNC. Then when I use the laptop directly, I find that some of the keys are borked: Pressing 'jkl' gives me '123' Pressing 'uio' gives me '456' Pressing 'm gives me a 0 It looks like it has some sort of numerical keypad superimposed. Needless to say, through VNC there is no problem. ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't kill X either. A reboot gives brief respite from the problem, but within a minute I can no longer email my friend jkluiom. //scratches head...// From jkeating at j2solutions.net Wed Feb 22 01:14:47 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:14:47 -0800 Subject: FC5T3 my keyboard is possessed In-Reply-To: <6c3f5e6c0602211705o619833ddla0007fda78cc8fc8@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c3f5e6c0602211705o619833ddla0007fda78cc8fc8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140570887.17286.144.camel@ender> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 20:05 -0500, gb spam wrote: > > Pressing 'jkl' gives me '123' > Pressing 'uio' gives me '456' > Pressing 'm gives me a 0 > > It looks like it has some sort of numerical keypad superimposed. Sounds to me that your laptop thinks numlock is on. Check in gconf-editor in desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/host-${hostname}/0/numlock_on If the value is checked, your numlock is on. I had this problem w/ my ibm T42 -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dmalcolm at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 01:18:52 2006 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:18:52 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <1140571132.8080.7.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:05 -0500, Ray Strode wrote: [snip] > Things are still quite raw, so expect things to crash, your system to > lock up, effects to be unpolished, etc. Is there a bugzilla component I should file problems against? Are there debuginfo packages for the repo? I'm getting the Xair server apparently crashing during the login. Upon investigation, it's an exit here: (gdb) bt #0 0x00b718c6 in exit () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x00f4cb96 in intelAllocateMemoryMESA () from /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so #2 0x00f4d708 in intelWaitForIdle () from /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so #3 0x00f4d732 in intelFinish () from /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so #4 0x00f6aaf2 in _mesa_Finish () from /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so #5 0x003e6423 in __glXSwapBuffers () from /usr/lib/xair/modules/extensions/libglx.so #6 0x003ec750 in __glXForceCurrent () from /usr/lib/xair/modules/extensions/libglx.so #7 0x008a8ddc in DRIUnlockedCallback () from /usr/lib/xair/modules/extensions/libdri.so #8 0x003ec8e1 in __glXForceCurrent () from /usr/lib/xair/modules/extensions/libglx.so #9 0x080845d6 in Dispatch () #10 0x0806e2f9 in main () Top tip for debugging: ssh into the test machine from another host, locate the Xair process, and run a "gdb attach" onto that process from there, type "cont" to get the X server to continue. You then have a vaguely sane debug environment, and can "break exit" (how I got the above). Should these notes be on the wiki? Dave From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Wed Feb 22 01:38:45 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:38:45 -0500 Subject: X trouble with Intel 82810E DC-133 graphics chipset in FC5T2 In-Reply-To: <1140568060l.15302l.2l@athena.riede.org> References: <1137801249l.6895l.1l@athena.riede.org> <1137992015.21521.10.camel@bree.local.net> <20060123045852.GA32110@redhat.com> <1140568060l.15302l.2l@athena.riede.org> Message-ID: <43FBC0A5.20600@insight.rr.com> Willem Riede wrote: > On 01/22/2006 11:58:52 PM, Dave Jones wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 11:53:35PM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: >> > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 18:54 -0500, Willem Riede wrote: > > I tried >> to upgrade an oldish Dell Optiplex GX110 that's now running FC3 >> > > to FC5T2, and this is how far I got: >> > [snip] > > Known problem? Should I bugzilla? Provide more information? >> > > It looks like this is probably due to agpgart going away from the >> i586 >> > kernel (which is used as the CD kernel). Can you file a bug >> against the >> > kernel asking for it to be re-added as it's needed for this reason? >> >> I missed the original post. I assume this is some shared-mem video >> problem? >> Anyway, I just re-added it. > > I'm happy to report that this problem no longer exists in FC5T3, > however, this PC now reproducibly locks up hard after several mintus of > "Starting Install Process". Nothing on screen to indicate what happened. > The old FC3 stll boots. Anaconda had created install.log and > install.log.syslog, but both files are empty. > > Regards, Willem Riede. I'm still downloading the DVD. I plan to Install after I get the DVD downloaded and burned on a computer which has an Intel 815 video. I will see if I get any further with the system than you were able to get. Are you giving mountpoints or sharing /home with the FC5T3 installation? I have FC4, FC5T2, Development and Windows ME on it presently. I use seperate boot partitions for each installation and do not share any volumes with the other installations. (separate /home. /boot, same swap) If you are sharing common mountpoints with FC3, what happens if you do not try to share mountpoints between installations? Jim From static at xstatica.com Wed Feb 22 02:08:47 2006 From: static at xstatica.com (Adam Gibson) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:08:47 -0500 Subject: GNome Desktop? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602211624x7a3a752cw7d32a476c58edb8c@mail.gmail.com> References: <91f88ee20602211624x7a3a752cw7d32a476c58edb8c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43FBC7AF.5040001@xstatica.com> I am curious what video card you have. I have a corruption issue with a EVGA Geforce 7600GT except mouse clicks don't work at all. Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > This issue still exists in FC5T2 -- can anyone confirm it is still a > problem in FC5T3? > > http://www.insecurity.org/Screenshot.png > > -- > WC Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ > From static at xstatica.com Wed Feb 22 02:12:28 2006 From: static at xstatica.com (Adam Gibson) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:12:28 -0500 Subject: Fast user switching from Davyd's GNOME 2.14 preview In-Reply-To: <1140544939.17286.93.camel@ender> References: <883cfe6d0602192135g7b0e5377y@mail.gmail.com> <20060220164325.GA17008@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <43FA63F5.4060202@interia.pl> <1140483154.17286.68.camel@ender> <43FAD902.3060906@interia.pl> <1140544939.17286.93.camel@ender> Message-ID: <43FBC88C.2060602@xstatica.com> Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 10:10 +0100, Marcin Grabda wrote: >> That's why I asked about providing option to enable that feature when >> needed. Maybe it's ugly but under some circumstances it's really useful. > > The concept of the feature isn't the ugly part. What has to be done to > the devices and permissions is what is ugly. Windows accomplishes it in > a very ugly way that can easily lead to security or corruption issues. Even windows does not allow this feature when in a domain environment. > Linux isn't quite ready to do this in a safe / sane way. > > From fhew3 at cogeco.ca Wed Feb 22 02:35:42 2006 From: fhew3 at cogeco.ca (Fulko Hew) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:35:42 -0500 Subject: FC5 Test 3 can't even boot Message-ID: <43FBCDFE.9050307@cogeco.ca> I'm trying FC5 for the first time on my laptop (Compal CL-50) where I've been running all other releases of Fedora Core for the last copule of years. After starting from a DVD (the first time I've ever tried that. I get a mangled graphic, plus the usual message about graphical versus text mode install followed by: [F1-Main] [F2-Options] [F3-General] [F4-Kernel] [F5-Rescue] Unknown keyword in config file. boot: Pressing enter, or entering 'linux text' just returns the error message: "Could not find kernel image: linux" Pressing Fn does absolutely nothing. Comments are always welcome. From admin at ramshacklestudios.com Wed Feb 22 03:05:38 2006 From: admin at ramshacklestudios.com (Peter Gordon) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:05:38 -0800 Subject: [OT?] Re: Yum & BitTorrent In-Reply-To: <1140546700.3165.17.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <1140546700.3165.17.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <1140577538.5502.0.camel@tuxhugger> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 19:31 +0100, David Nielsen wrote: > bittorrent is really optimized for files in the 100 MB range, and we > don't have many of those in the repos - also how would we justify the > upload on dial up? What about updates to OpenOffice.org, Eclipse, et al? ;-) -- Peter Gordon (codergeek42) GnuPG Public Key ID: 0xDA3634D7 Fingerprint: 0629 F604 3C14 937E F088 E5E9 B3CB 48EC DA36 34D7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stanfinley at comcast.net Wed Feb 22 03:06:43 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:06:43 -0700 Subject: FC5 Test 3 can't even boot In-Reply-To: <43FBCDFE.9050307@cogeco.ca> References: <43FBCDFE.9050307@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <1140577603.3693.2.camel@stantonfinley.org> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 21:35 -0500, Fulko Hew wrote: > I'm trying FC5 for the first time on my laptop (Compal CL-50) > where I've been running all other releases of Fedora Core > for the last copule of years. > > > After starting from a DVD (the first time I've ever > tried that. I get a mangled graphic, plus the usual > message about graphical versus text mode install > followed by: > > [F1-Main] [F2-Options] [F3-General] [F4-Kernel] [F5-Rescue] > Unknown keyword in config file. > boot: > > Pressing enter, or entering 'linux text' > just returns the error message: > > "Could not find kernel image: linux" > > Pressing Fn does absolutely nothing. > > Comments are always welcome. Same here. I filed bugs here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182147 and here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178143 Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net From wrrhdev at riede.org Wed Feb 22 03:08:33 2006 From: wrrhdev at riede.org (Willem Riede) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:08:33 -0500 Subject: X trouble with Intel 82810E DC-133 graphics chipset in FC5T2 In-Reply-To: <43FBC0A5.20600@insight.rr.com> (from fct-cornette@insight.rr.com on Tue Feb 21 20:38:45 2006) References: <1137801249l.6895l.1l@athena.riede.org> <1137992015.21521.10.camel@bree.local.net> <20060123045852.GA32110@redhat.com> <1140568060l.15302l.2l@athena.riede.org> <43FBC0A5.20600@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1140577713l.15302l.3l@athena.riede.org> On 02/21/2006 08:38:45 PM, Jim Cornette wrote: > > Are you giving mountpoints or sharing /home with the FC5T3 installation? > I have FC4, FC5T2, Development and Windows ME on it presently. I use > seperate boot partitions for each installation and do not share any > volumes with the other installations. (separate /home. /boot, same swap) > > If you are sharing common mountpoints with FC3, what happens if you do > not try to share mountpoints between installations? No, this PC has only FC3 on it (with /, swap and /home on separate partitions) which I was trying to have anaconda upgrade to FC5T3, at which point that would be all that's on it. Regards, Willem Riede. From vicki at stanfield.net Wed Feb 22 02:48:39 2006 From: vicki at stanfield.net (Vicki Stanfield) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:48:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Problem with grub in FC5 Test 2 Message-ID: <33541.204.8.12.128.1140576519.squirrel@204.8.12.128> I am having a problem with a new install of FC5 Test 2. The error appears to be grub not being able to find the root device. There is only one ide drive in the system with /dev/hda1 as the boot partition and /dev/hda2 as a LVM (VolGroup00/LogVol00). The error I am getting is: VFS: Cannot open root device "VolGroup00/LogVol00" or unknown_block(0,0) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown_block(0,0) I tried the usual grub commands at the prompt, but nothing seems to be working. I do get output when I try cat (hd0,0)/grub/stage1. However, cat (hd0,0)/grub/menu.1st complains that it can't mount the drive. Being primarily a slackware user (lilo), I'm a bit confused. Vicki From michel.salim at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 05:16:47 2006 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:16:47 -0500 Subject: BitTorrent ports? In-Reply-To: <43FB82A5.9080907@hblok.net> References: <43FB82A5.9080907@hblok.net> Message-ID: <883cfe6d0602212116y6f229566lf89bff4b98259ebe@mail.gmail.com> On 2/21/06, Havard Rast Blok wrote: > > > Thanks guys! This was helpful. I shall certainly check out Azureus, as > mentioned by DaveT. It was also good to get the port range confirmed. > The download speed must have increased quite a lot after a went to bed, > since it was done 7 hours later, rather than the estimated 60. > Note that if a file is freshly-seeded, not many peers would have enough pieces of the file that you can download multiple parts of the file in parallel. So it's not surprising to see a slow initial download rate. Regards, -- Michel Salim http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~msalim http://the-dubois-papers.blogspot.com/ From berryja at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 06:05:28 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:05:28 -0600 Subject: Kudzu fails with segfault on FC5 Test 3 on HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook In-Reply-To: <20060221171725.GA20995@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1140497548.4061.18.camel@stantonfinley.org> <1140504194.4061.22.camel@stantonfinley.org> <20060221170233.GD3831@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1140542120.3531.6.camel@stantonfinley.org> <20060221171725.GA20995@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602212205v448d1bcdyd1dfc041451283b7@mail.gmail.com> On 2/21/06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Stanton Finley (stanfinley at comcast.net) said: > > Bill, I probably unwittingly asked for virtualization by checking > > everything at installation time in order to get a complete system to > > test. Should I not expect kudzu to work with the HV kernel? > > Well, you should expect it to work, but it's known that it doesn't. :) [noted by Stanton in another message] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179013 Is this the same issue as with x86_64 (and nVidia)? Or is there a separate bug for that? Jonathan From russell at coker.com.au Wed Feb 22 00:16:31 2006 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:16:31 +1100 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <20060221001605.GB25007@redhat.com> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <20060221001605.GB25007@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200602221116.51710.russell@coker.com.au> On Tuesday 21 February 2006 11:16, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > I suggested enabling allow_execstack before, but dwalsh set me straight. > The SELinux type on /usr/bin/Xair should match that of /usr/bin/Xorg > (which can already use an executable stack), so > ? ? chcon -t xserver_exec_t /usr/bin/Xorg > is the more correct way to fix this. Is Xair an X server? If not then assigning that type isn't the correct solution, even though it may work. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From roger at gwch.net Wed Feb 22 06:34:07 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:34:07 +0100 (CET) Subject: GNome Desktop? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602211624x7a3a752cw7d32a476c58edb8c@mail.gmail.com> References: <91f88ee20602211624x7a3a752cw7d32a476c58edb8c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17900.193.73.106.103.1140590047.squirrel@www.gwch.net> > This issue still exists in FC5T2 -- can anyone confirm it is still a > problem in FC5T3? > > http://www.insecurity.org/Screenshot.png > > -- > WC Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > *huh* i had this at the very beginning of FC5/T2 - Changing to a resolution the card can manage resolved it. I personally haven't seen this for weeks...i am not sure, if this wasn't an issue that has been cleared once with some hicolor-themes. Roger From mharris at mharris.ca Wed Feb 22 07:21:25 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:21:25 -0500 Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? In-Reply-To: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> References: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> Message-ID: <43FC10F5.6090206@mharris.ca> Preface: My response is rather verbose, because I believe this is a very important issue, and is one I've put a tremendous amount of thought and effort into for the last 2-4 years, so I have a lot of ideas and opinions to express. Those who dislike long emails, or aren't interested in the topic of bug triage, are encouraged to stop reading right now. ;o) Marius Andreiana wrote: > Hi all, > > I've got a bunch of notices with FC5 test1 and test2 bugs being closed > as there have been a lot of updates meanwhile. For me, as a tester which > monitors some of the bugs and find some time once in a weekend to do > some triage, this seemed plain rude. I agree. > If there are too many bugs overwhelming developers then the cause should > be addressed (better code with fewer bugs, which means more resources > devoted to coding which are unavailable now) or find alternative > solutions, where fedora testers could help. Better code with fewer bugs is somewhat of a pipe dream. In particular since the software is written by various random people scattered around the globe who can't be forced by the Fedora Project to write better code. Adding more engineers to the problem would at least in theory fix more bugs, but would also likely introduce some new bugs that were not previously there before. IMHO at least, that wouldn't significantly impact the bug-freeness of most things anyway. If you have 500 bugs in something and 10 people spend a lot of time developing/fixing it, and you add 5 more people, and that lowers the overall bug count down to 485 bugs, while you've improved the software, it is still quite buggy. Adding another 100 engineers to every project is not financially viable, and wouldn't solve the problem anyway, as adding more people to solve problems reaches a certain point in which adding one more person actually makes things worse. Brooks law. The right approach I believe, is to very clearly define the real core problems that need to be solved, get a laundry list, and then seriously brainstorm other ideas openly as to how to solve the laundry list problems. While brainstorming however, one needs to be very very careful that they are not just solving the bullet-list of problems, but also avoiding creating NEW problems which are WORSE in the process (like the autoclosing that just happened.) > Closing all the reported bugs won't make them go away, but will make testers > go away. With the current bugzilla setup, the number of reported bugs would have > decreased as more testers do triage and see if they are still valid in > rawhide, or they could confirm it until a developer finally looks at it, or the > reporter might update it with new info. At a bare minimum, such mass bug updates shouldn't be blindly applied to groups of bugs, but should be done by reviewing each bug individually. Reviewing a large number of bugs and earmarking them (on paper, or in a text file, or on a bugzilla bug tracker, or some other mechanism) for later mass-update is a way of categorizing smartly, however it does take more human time and effort. Then, a mass update could be applied to all of the bugs that were earmarked. Then the comment added actually makes sense, and is in context of the current state of the bugs that get flagged. > A practice from openoffice bugzilla could be borrowed - bugs reported by > usual bugzilla acounts are by default UNCONFIRMED, and only fedora > testers can set them to NEW. If there are too many bugs, a developer > could ignore UNCONFIRMED ones. I don't really like the idea of an UNCONFIRMED state personally, at least as far as X related bug reports are concerned. Sometimes people report bugs, and someone else has the same problem as them or *THINKS* they do, and could in theory "confirm" it. Later the "bug" turns out to be 5 people all misconfigured the same thing, or simply misunderstand how it is supposed to work. That's one example. The current text comments indicate who has confirmed what, etc. anyway and in a more meaningful way. And for X bugs, I would say the majority are "UNCONFIRMED" for most of their life from engineering side at least, due to lack of hardware and various numerous other factors. The last thing we really need is more bugzilla bug states/resolutions. It is a huge morass of confusing states as it is right now, and if you ask 20 people what each state really means, you'll get 20 different answers for many of the states. Bug state usage varies heavily from package to package, and from engineer to engineer. That's just a fact of current and past usage that can't be ignored. One could put forth the idea of "Well let's make some policies to officially define exactly what each bug state/resolution means, and document them on a Wiki, and declare it official policy. Then after that every single engineer will be ruled with an iron fist to use the bug states 100% consistently." Actually, some people have put that idea forth. The problem is, it is like preventing people from smoking pot by making possession of pot illegal. It doesn't stop anything. No matter what documentation and/or policies might be created for bugzilla, it will have some net positive effect perhaps, but many people will likely just ignore a lot of it due to information-overflow and the need to get real work done. In the end, people's job priorities win over reciting and adhering a bugzilla manual from heart like a national anthem. > I also noticed Dave closes kernel bugs with each kernel release, asking > people to retest. While this might save developers time, it could also > leave real bugs closed as reporter might get tired of re-confirming a > bug for 3 times. That is indeed true, however there is really no perfect solution to the bug triage problem, and it is largely left in the hands of the individual package maintainers to determine how best to manage the bugs in the components that they own. For smaller packages it is much less of a problem. For huge critical packages like the kernel, X, rpm, anaconda, glibc, gcc, gnome, kde, and others, there are so many bugs that it is just insane bug pileup that is impossible to know what is still relevant and what is not. And the more bugs there are piled up, the more difficult it is to find the ones that are actually still relevent and prioritize them effectively. For example, you have 700 bugs open in your packages total. Today it is your task to prioritize them. The only problem is that it will take you 3 weeks simply to read/review each bug to even know what all is there, and to start to build up a list of bugs which are more serious and deserve more attention. While you are doing that, 72 new bugs have been filed. All of this time you have done nothing but read/triage and update bug reports, trying to categorize them in some sane manner to work on them _later in the future_. It's just totally an unmanageable mountain of infinite problems for all intents and purposes. Yet, you still have to wade through at least a _fraction_ of all of the problems, and flag them as being priorities, and put them in your work queue. Then you need to actually _work_ on that work queue. While working on actually fixing bugs, the existing bugs continue to rot, and pile up while 50 more come in. Also, for the kernel and X at least, add to that the fact that you don't have every network card, video card, motherboard, laptop, mouse, KVM switch, monitor, DFP, sound card, etc. available for you to even attempt to reproduce the problem being reported, and there is a whole new class of bugs that pile up. One attempt at helping to solve this, is for the engineer to ask the person to please report their bug to the upstream project, as that increases the chances that someone who actually has the hardware available, might also have the time available to look into the problem, and actually fix it. Sometimes that works great. Other times, the bug reporter whines that they have done their job reporting it to Red Hat, and don't want to be bothered opening 400 bugzilla accounts around the globe. Ok, no problem... your bug is now 1 bug in 750, of which maybe 50 get fixed in N months or whatever. Your bug might sit there for a year, or two simply due to insufficient hardware or manpower, or perhaps it is just very low priority when compared to 50 other higher more critical issues that are also sitting rotting. Since finite humans can only solve finite numbers of problems in finite amount of time, and software flaws are seemingly infinite, the bugs will continue to pile up and pile up forever essentially. The only way to prevent it as I personally see it, is to have a bug triaging "method" which makes concrete decisions at regular intervals throughout a bug's life. I've talked about this before a year or two ago on various lists when we implemented such a system for our team's bug triaging. I wont get into the details of that system right now, or this already long mail will be a textbook. ;o) > Take for example this bug: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=174968 > In FC5test1, looks like the bttv driver had some problems, causing > tvtuners to stop working. A few updates later, it worked again. The > causes for not working and working again are unknown, therefore it could > happen on every new release. Just cross fingers and hope for the best! Yep, and unfortunately that's the way it is for a lot of hardware class bugs. I'll just make up a completely fabricated example to illustrate my point. Let's say you have a Trident video card, or perhaps a Siliconmotion video in a laptop. You install FC5test3 on it, and video doesn't work properly. Well, to the best of my knowledge, none of our X engineers including myself have any Trident video hardware whatsoever, nor siliconmotion. No trident or siliconmotion hardware documentation. Just driver source code, and no way to attempt to reproduce the problem. The only way to diagnose it usually is to read the symptoms and gather more information such as logs/configs. Then review all the info that's been accumulated and form a theory as to what the problem might be based on the info provided. Then when possible provide suggestions of things to try to narrow down the problem and perhaps find a temporary workaround. Quite often, such bugs will never get fixed until the upstream X.Org driver maintainer who _does_ have the hardware, and _does_ have the documentation is aware of the issue, and provides a fix or test-fix in CVS or in an upstream bug report. So the reality of things is that some bugs will get fixed, some will get workarounds, some will get ugly hacks that allow the person to be able to use their system perhaps with degraded functionality or performance until a real fix is available upstream. Other problems will sit and rot due to being very obscure, hard to reproduce, very transient and require specific hardware combinations, or require hardware that isn't available. Other bugs are just very very low priority compared to the other 500 bugs that are open in the grand scheme of things, and so we know right away there's no way we'll ever have a chance of spending time on it. File a bug in our bugzilla about the ark logic driver for example and I can pretty much guarantee that it will either sit there forever, or I'll close it "please file upstream". "Please file upstream" is a nice polite way of saying "I want your problem to be solved too, but being completely realistic, if I don't tell you to file it upstream right now, the likelyhood of it sitting in our bugzilla untouched and unfixed for 3 years is about 1000 times more likely than if it is filed upstream, simply due to manpower and resource constraints." I realize this is a _LOT_ more information that some people reading this may want to read, and I'm sure that some people will probably be upset to read about the cold hard reality that it is simply impossible for every single bug to get attention. Everyone wants their problems to be looked at at least, and it's nice if you can do it in a one stop shopping manner through your distro's bugzilla. Hell, even *I* want that!! Don't we all! Reality kicks in though, and you either end up going from 500 bugs to 800 to 2000 to 3000 and at some point you get zero actual work done because you spend all your time reading bug reports and no actual time fixing bugs. Or you devise a scheme for reducing the bug load by telling people to upstream things, closing bugs to which the reporter(s) have not been responsive for N days/weeks/months, closing bugs as rawhide that you have good reason to believe are fixed in the latest bits - with a request to reopen if the problem still exists, etc. Many teams or individuals have a system of some sort for handling that. Others might just let those bugs pile up for a long time, then gang close many at once. No matter how it is done, some people will no doubt be inconvienienced, and it is probably not possible to avoid that completely. > To conclude, please don't close bug reports without researching them > first. In general I agree with that. I dislike the idea of an auto-close after n days/weeks/months of bugs of category foo, or release bar, or test release bar, etc... as there will always be bugs closed and lost forever that nobody will even notice got closed, but which were definitely not fixed and shouldn't have been closed. > If Red Hat staff doesn't have time for it, please ask for triage > help on fedora-test list, even with weekly themes, such as GNOME triage > week (including searching for upstream bugs), kernel week etc - just > post the link to the bugzilla query for all the required components. Agreed. A bug day/days/week/month/whatever is a better way to approach it IMHO for many cases. > Thanks and looking forward for a better FC5 release! Indeed. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From jkeating at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 07:42:01 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:42:01 -0800 Subject: rawhide report delayed Message-ID: <1140594121.17286.161.camel@ender> We're having some issues getting rawhide pushed tonight. It may be delayed for a few hours yet. Please be patient w/ us, thanks! -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From schneg at rpi.edu Wed Feb 22 07:54:34 2006 From: schneg at rpi.edu (George Schneeloch) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:54:34 -0500 Subject: 3dfx dri problems Message-ID: <43FC18BA.2050405@rpi.edu> I'm using Fedora Core 5 Test 2 on my desktop with a Voodoo 3 3000 agp card. /var/log/Xorg.0.log said that my 3dfx card won't work with DRI unless it was set to a 16-bit depth. I changed my DefaultDepth in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to 16 and I got this message from /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (EE) TDFX(0): dlopen /usr/lib/dri/tdfx_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/tdfx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) (EE) TDFX(0): unable to find driver: tdfx_dri.so Doing "yum provides tdfx_dri.so" yields nothing for the default development repo's. It does not exist at /usr/lib/dri/tdfx_dri.so, although a bunch of other driver .so files show up there. (yum provides radeon_dri.so yields mesa-libGL as its package.) Any ideas? Thanks for reading all of this -George Schneeloch From tjikkun at xs4all.nl Wed Feb 22 08:01:16 2006 From: tjikkun at xs4all.nl (Sander Hoentjen) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:01:16 +0100 Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <1140529191.8997.5.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> References: <28055.192.94.41.42.1139909273.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093851.GZ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <32035.192.94.41.42.1139911941.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214170739.GN9720@neu.nirvana> <1140527906.8997.0.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <20060221133213.GA13387@neu.nirvana> <1140529191.8997.5.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1140595277.8997.10.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 14:39 +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > > http://dl.atrpms.net/fc5-i386/atrpms/stable/ > that is the location i have in my atrpm.repo > I can see asterisk-1.2.4-18.rhfc4.92.at.i386.rpm but no zaptel > whatsoever > Ok now there i zaptel and I installed it. Next step: learn how to configure asterisk :) Thanks a lot! Sander From che666 at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 09:14:06 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:14:06 +0100 Subject: how to use an older gcc ? In-Reply-To: <1140553184.24224.3.camel@FC4-AMD64-X2-4200> References: <20060221131838.A138273847@hormel.redhat.com> <1140553184.24224.3.camel@FC4-AMD64-X2-4200> Message-ID: 2006/2/21, Terry Kemp : > > Re: how to use an older gcc ? > > pass gcc version to configure... > ./configure --cc=gcc32 > (and edit config-host.mak to remove sparc if you are on x86_64) > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > it also compiles fine with gcc4 if you disable sparc and the compiler check. regards, Rudolf Kastl From alexl at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 09:21:04 2006 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:21:04 +0100 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <200602221116.51710.russell@coker.com.au> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <20060221001605.GB25007@redhat.com> <200602221116.51710.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <1140600065.17723.13.camel@greebo> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 11:16 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Tuesday 21 February 2006 11:16, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > > I suggested enabling allow_execstack before, but dwalsh set me straight. > > The SELinux type on /usr/bin/Xair should match that of /usr/bin/Xorg > > (which can already use an executable stack), so > > chcon -t xserver_exec_t /usr/bin/Xorg > > is the more correct way to fix this. > > Is Xair an X server? If not then assigning that type isn't the correct > solution, even though it may work. Yes, it is an X server. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's a witless guerilla waffle chef who must take medication to keep him sane. She's a wealthy red-headed snake charmer who inherited a spooky stately manor from her late maiden aunt. They fight crime! From russell at coker.com.au Wed Feb 22 09:42:50 2006 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:42:50 +1100 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1140600065.17723.13.camel@greebo> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <200602221116.51710.russell@coker.com.au> <1140600065.17723.13.camel@greebo> Message-ID: <200602222043.34563.russell@coker.com.au> On Wednesday 22 February 2006 20:21, Alexander Larsson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 11:16 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 February 2006 11:16, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > > > I suggested enabling allow_execstack before, but dwalsh set me > > > straight. The SELinux type on /usr/bin/Xair should match that of > > > /usr/bin/Xorg (which can already use an executable stack), so > > > chcon -t xserver_exec_t /usr/bin/Xorg > > > is the more correct way to fix this. > > > > Is Xair an X server? If not then assigning that type isn't the correct > > solution, even though it may work. > > Yes, it is an X server. In that case xserver_exec_t is definitely the correct label. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From islifefun1975 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 22 10:37:32 2006 From: islifefun1975 at yahoo.com (Josh) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:37:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: FC5T3 x86-64 terse install report (with one install bug?) Message-ID: <20060222103732.91999.qmail@web34005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello all, I been a linux user since RH 5.0 days and couldn't wait to test FC5T3. The anaconda installer is very very slick ;-) Downloaded all 5 CDROMS for installation on AMD64 box. 1. Started installation from external USD DVDRW drive. 2. Disk 1 boots and after the inital steps asks me for install location (Local CDROM, Local Harddrive, NFS, FTP and HTTP) 3. Selected Local CDROM drive. Anaconda complains that no Fedora CD was found. 5. I go back to previous menu. Installation continues with a prompt to scan the disk. 6. Skipped CD testing. Install seem to continue 7. Anaconda terminates installation and prepares for shutdown. On debug screen, there is a message about segfault. I disconnect external USB DVDRW drive and continue installation with internal DVD drive. Installation is successful. I would like to know if anyone has been successful in installing from external USB drives, After confirming this to be a bug, I will file a bug#. Other trivial improvements to anaconda could be, 1. While configuring network devices for static IP, the cursor should jump automatically to the next IP bit. This needs a simple TAB now, but automated is nice. 2. After entering the static IP, the netmask should be automatically populated to 255.255.255.0. User can change this if needed. I know these are trivial but when installing the distribution a hundred times at various locations, this will be a little bit easier on the installer. I will be installing FC5T3 on a few more systems and laptops next week :) Josh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From gbofspam at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 10:39:16 2006 From: gbofspam at gmail.com (gb spam) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 05:39:16 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 my keyboard is possessed In-Reply-To: <1140570887.17286.144.camel@ender> References: <6c3f5e6c0602211705o619833ddla0007fda78cc8fc8@mail.gmail.com> <1140570887.17286.144.camel@ender> Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0602220239p5d284e6sf1baee8a25b14dd0@mail.gmail.com> On 2/21/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 20:05 -0500, gb spam wrote: > > > > Pressing 'jkl' gives me '123' > > Pressing 'uio' gives me '456' > > Pressing 'm gives me a 0 > > > > It looks like it has some sort of numerical keypad superimposed. > > Sounds to me that your laptop thinks numlock is on. Check in > gconf-editor in > desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/host-${hostname}/0/numlock_on If the > value is checked, your numlock is on. I had this problem w/ my ibm T42 Bingo! I knew it had to be something stupid. In this case, it was me... :) From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Wed Feb 22 10:54:26 2006 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:54:26 +0100 Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <1140595277.8997.10.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> References: <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093851.GZ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <32035.192.94.41.42.1139911941.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214170739.GN9720@neu.nirvana> <1140527906.8997.0.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <20060221133213.GA13387@neu.nirvana> <1140529191.8997.5.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <1140595277.8997.10.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20060222105426.GI13387@neu.nirvana> On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 09:01:16AM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 14:39 +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > > > > http://dl.atrpms.net/fc5-i386/atrpms/stable/ > > that is the location i have in my atrpm.repo > > I can see asterisk-1.2.4-18.rhfc4.92.at.i386.rpm but no zaptel > > whatsoever > > > Ok now there i zaptel and I installed it. Yes, I had forgotten to flag zaptel on FC5 as finished, so the build system would not grab it and place it into the public repo. > Next step: learn how to configure asterisk :) Have fun ... ;) -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rmy at tigress.co.uk Wed Feb 22 10:57:54 2006 From: rmy at tigress.co.uk (Ron Yorston) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:57:54 GMT Subject: Metacity and terminals Message-ID: <200602221057.k1MAvsI4015503@tiffany.internal.tigress.co.uk> I installed fc5t3 last night, mostly without incident. I haven't had much time to use it yet so there are one or two things I'll need to look into and may report later. However, one immediate thing. There's an experimental patch to metacity that causes GUI applications started from a terminal to appear underneath the terminal window. Applications started from a launcher appear on top, as before. The upstream rationale for this and the Red Hat Bugzilla entry for it are here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326159 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178389 I'm a developer. I spend a lot of time working in terminal windows doing things like 'vi prog.c; make; ./prog'. Once I've typed './prog' I expect my sparkly new program to appear so that I can see if my evil kludge has finally nailed the latest bug the users have been (quite unjustifiably) complaining about. I don't want to have to drag the sparkly new program up from underneath my terminal window. The first time this happens it's a surprise. The second time it's irrirating. After the twentieth time I'll be saying Very Rude Things Indeed about metacity, its maintainer, his family and their pets. And I'm sure Elijah wouldn't want that. I really can't think of any case where I'd want to start an application from a terminal window and not have it appear on top. For the way I work the new behaviour is always wrong and it isn't even possible to turn it off. I'd really, really, really like to see this experimental patch reverted. Or at least have some way to configure it, preferably with the old behaviour as default. Ron From harald at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 11:01:23 2006 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:01:23 +0100 Subject: Burning CDs In-Reply-To: <1139032365.2356.6.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <1138380774.2807.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1139032365.2356.6.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <43FC4483.2020404@redhat.com> David Nielsen wrote: > And we have a winner again, cdburning is again broken for users. > > bash-3.1$ cdrecord -dev=ATA:1,0,0 -driveropts=burnfree -data image.iso > cdrecord: No write mode specified. > cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. > cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent > defaults. > cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds... > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a03-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) > 1995-2005 J?rg Schilling > NOTE: This version contains the OSS DVD extensions for cdrtools and thus > may > have bugs related to DVD issues that are not present in the > original > cdrtools. Please send bug reports or support requests to > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla The original cdrtools author > should > not be bothered with problems in this version. > cdrecord: Cannot allocate memory. WARNING: Cannot do mlockall(2). > cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. > cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler > cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using > setpriority(). > cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. > scsidev: 'ATA:1,0,0' > devname: 'ATA' > scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 > Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 > Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. > cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version > (schily - Red Hat-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.85-RH '@(#)scsi-linux-sg.c > 1.85 05/05/16 Copyright 1997 J. Schilling'). > Device type : Removable CD-ROM > Version : 0 > Response Format: 1 > Vendor_info : 'PLEXTOR ' > Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716AL ' > Revision : '1.00' > Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. > cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Cannot send SCSI cmd via ioctl > > It works as root though, I tried filing to bugzilla but it gave me, > ironically, an error message. > > - David > You should really use "cdrecord -dev=/dev/cdwriter" .. From gnomeuser at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 11:04:51 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:04:51 +0100 Subject: Burning CDs In-Reply-To: <43FC4483.2020404@redhat.com> References: <1138380774.2807.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1139032365.2356.6.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FC4483.2020404@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140606291.24450.23.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> ons, 22 02 2006 kl. 12:01 +0100, skrev Harald Hoyer: > David Nielsen wrote: > > And we have a winner again, cdburning is again broken for users. > > > > bash-3.1$ cdrecord -dev=ATA:1,0,0 -driveropts=burnfree -data image.iso > > cdrecord: No write mode specified. > > cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. > > cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent > > defaults. > > cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds... > > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a03-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) > > 1995-2005 J?rg Schilling > > NOTE: This version contains the OSS DVD extensions for cdrtools and thus > > may > > have bugs related to DVD issues that are not present in the > > original > > cdrtools. Please send bug reports or support requests to > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla The original cdrtools author > > should > > not be bothered with problems in this version. > > cdrecord: Cannot allocate memory. WARNING: Cannot do mlockall(2). > > cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. > > cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler > > cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using > > setpriority(). > > cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. > > scsidev: 'ATA:1,0,0' > > devname: 'ATA' > > scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 > > Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 > > Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. > > cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version > > (schily - Red Hat-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.85-RH '@(#)scsi-linux-sg.c > > 1.85 05/05/16 Copyright 1997 J. Schilling'). > > Device type : Removable CD-ROM > > Version : 0 > > Response Format: 1 > > Vendor_info : 'PLEXTOR ' > > Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716AL ' > > Revision : '1.00' > > Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. > > cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Cannot send SCSI cmd via ioctl > > > > It works as root though, I tried filing to bugzilla but it gave me, > > ironically, an error message. > > > > - David > > > > You should really use "cdrecord -dev=/dev/cdwriter" .. sounds like : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179862 - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From newsmail1 at hblok.net Wed Feb 22 11:23:01 2006 From: newsmail1 at hblok.net (Havard Rast Blok) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:23:01 +0100 (CET) Subject: Burning CDs In-Reply-To: <1140606291.24450.23.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <1138380774.2807.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1139032365.2356.6.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FC4483.2020404@redhat.com> <1140606291.24450.23.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <43749.62.218.28.226.1140607381.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> > ons, 22 02 2006 kl. 12:01 +0100, skrev Harald Hoyer: >> David Nielsen wrote: >> > Device type : Removable CD-ROM >> > Version : 0 >> > Response Format: 1 >> > Vendor_info : 'PLEXTOR ' >> > Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716AL ' >> > Revision : '1.00' >> > Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. >> > cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Cannot send SCSI cmd via ioctl >> > >> > It works as root though, I tried filing to bugzilla but it gave me, >> > ironically, an error message. >> > >> > - David >> > >> >> You should really use "cdrecord -dev=/dev/cdwriter" .. > > sounds like : > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179862 > > - David > I had a slightly related (although not the same error message) issue last night while trying to blank a CD-RW disc (as noted in the bugzilla report above). The message was something along the lines of: "Medium is ultra high speed, while the recorder is not compatible with this speed". The disc was a Memorex CD-RW 4x, and the writer is Plextor DVDR PX-708A (which is able to write at lest 10x on CD-RW). The error was the same with the cdrecord which came with Test 2 and after a yum from the development repo last night. Is this related at all? (Unfortunately, I don't have any more details before I get home tonight). Havard -- This email has been scanned for viruses & spam by Decna as - www.decna.no Denne e-posten er sjekket for virus & spam av Decna as - www.decna.no From tjikkun at xs4all.nl Wed Feb 22 11:53:53 2006 From: tjikkun at xs4all.nl (tjikkun at xs4all.nl) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:53:53 +0100 (CET) Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <20060222105426.GI13387@neu.nirvana> References: <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093851.GZ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <32035.192.94.41.42.1139911941.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214170739.GN9720@neu.nirvana> <1140527906.8997.0.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <20060221133213.GA13387@neu.nirvana> <1140529191.8997.5.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <1140595277.8997.10.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <20060222105426.GI13387@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <13492.213.84.157.18.1140609233.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 09:01:16AM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: >> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 14:39 +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: >> > >> > http://dl.atrpms.net/fc5-i386/atrpms/stable/ >> > that is the location i have in my atrpm.repo >> > I can see asterisk-1.2.4-18.rhfc4.92.at.i386.rpm but no zaptel >> > whatsoever >> > >> Ok now there i zaptel and I installed it. > > Yes, I had forgotten to flag zaptel on FC5 as finished, so the build > system would not grab it and place it into the public repo. > >> Next step: learn how to configure asterisk :) > > Have fun ... ;) > -- The fun starts with a segfault runing /usr/sbin/asterisk -d If you have any pointers on how to troubleshoot this I would greatly appreciate it. I am not at home at the moment so I probably won't be able to try anything before tomorrow. Sander From newsmail1 at hblok.net Wed Feb 22 11:58:18 2006 From: newsmail1 at hblok.net (Havard Rast Blok) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:58:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: Installer crash/reboot on FC4 -> FC5T3 CD upgrade Message-ID: <49702.62.218.28.226.1140609498.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> I just tried an upgrade from a fresh install of FC4 (from CDs, selecting all packages) to FC5T3. At some point on the first CD the installer shut down my machine. Unfortunately, I did not observe the actual shutdown, so I will give it another try later today. The same machine installed fine with a fresh FC5T3 from the same CDs last night. Anybody experienced something like this while upgrading from FC4? -- Havard Rast Blok Web: http://hblok.net GPG/PGP key: http://hblok.net/gpg.txt -- This email has been scanned for viruses & spam by Decna as - www.decna.no Denne e-posten er sjekket for virus & spam av Decna as - www.decna.no From dennis at ausil.us Wed Feb 22 13:02:01 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:02:01 -0600 Subject: FC5T3 x86-64 terse install report (with one install bug?) In-Reply-To: <20060222103732.91999.qmail@web34005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060222103732.91999.qmail@web34005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200602220702.13067.dennis@ausil.us> Once upon a time Wednesday 22 February 2006 4:37 am, Josh wrote: > Other trivial improvements to anaconda could be, > 1. While configuring network devices for static IP, > the cursor should jump automatically to the next IP > bit. This needs a simple TAB now, but automated is > nice. > > 2. After entering the static IP, the netmask should be > automatically populated to 255.255.255.0. User can > change this if needed. > > I know these are trivial but when installing the > distribution a hundred times at various locations, > this will be a little bit easier on the installer. > > I will be installing FC5T3 on a few more systems and > laptops next week :) if installing on hundreds of machines i would be using dhcp, and i would be using kickstart to automate the installs -- Dennis Gilmore, RHCE http://www.ausil.us Proud Australian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I resorted to making some /home/install space on an ext3 drive so that the isos would be available; I have also got around it by mounting the iso's on another machine and making them available over ftp. (for dvd mount on eg disc, while for CD mkdirs of disc1, d2, d3, d4 etc and give the disc1 folder as the image location. DaveT. From czar at czarc.net Wed Feb 22 13:55:06 2006 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 08:55:06 -0500 Subject: Announcing Fedora Core 5 Test 3 In-Reply-To: <1140458562.2312.79.camel@ender> References: <1140458562.2312.79.camel@ender> Message-ID: <200602220855.07073.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 20 February 2006 13:02, Jesse Keating wrote: > * Unified SRPM set instead of one per arch Although the source rpms do exist under .../4.92/source/srpms, the associated isos are "empty" (no *src.rpm files). It appears the build system needs some work. -- Gene From czar at czarc.net Wed Feb 22 13:55:06 2006 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 08:55:06 -0500 Subject: Announcing Fedora Core 5 Test 3 In-Reply-To: <1140458562.2312.79.camel@ender> References: <1140458562.2312.79.camel@ender> Message-ID: <200602220855.07073.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 20 February 2006 13:02, Jesse Keating wrote: > * Unified SRPM set instead of one per arch Although the source rpms do exist under .../4.92/source/srpms, the associated isos are "empty" (no *src.rpm files). It appears the build system needs some work. -- Gene From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 22 14:03:41 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:33:41 +0530 Subject: Announcing Fedora Core 5 Test 3 In-Reply-To: <200602220855.07073.czar@czarc.net> References: <1140458562.2312.79.camel@ender> <200602220855.07073.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <43FC6F3D.2030802@fedoraproject.org> Gene C. wrote: >On Monday 20 February 2006 13:02, Jesse Keating wrote: > > >>* Unified SRPM set instead of one per arch >> >> >Although the source rpms do exist under .../4.92/source/srpms, the associated >isos are "empty" (no *src.rpm files). > >It appears the build system needs some work. > > Already listed in the announcement - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Test3CommonProblems -- Rahul From gilboad at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 14:08:49 2006 From: gilboad at gmail.com (Gilboa Davara) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:08:49 +0200 Subject: FC5T3 x86-64 terse install report (with one install bug?) In-Reply-To: <20060222103732.91999.qmail@web34005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060222103732.91999.qmail@web34005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1140617329.31306.20.camel@gilboa-work-dev> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 02:37 -0800, Josh wrote: > Hello all, > > I been a linux user since RH 5.0 days and couldn't > wait to test FC5T3. The anaconda installer is very > very slick ;-) > > Downloaded all 5 CDROMS for installation on AMD64 box. > > 1. Started installation from external USD DVDRW drive. > > 2. Disk 1 boots and after the inital steps asks me for > install location (Local CDROM, Local Harddrive, NFS, > FTP and HTTP) > 3. Selected Local CDROM drive. Anaconda complains that > no Fedora CD was found. > 5. I go back to previous menu. Installation continues > with a prompt to scan the disk. > 6. Skipped CD testing. Install seem to continue > 7. Anaconda terminates installation and prepares for > shutdown. On debug screen, there is a message about > segfault. > > I disconnect external USB DVDRW drive and continue > installation with internal DVD drive. Installation is > successful. > > I would like to know if anyone has been successful in > installing from external USB drives, After confirming > this to be a bug, I will file a bug#. > > Other trivial improvements to anaconda could be, > 1. While configuring network devices for static IP, > the cursor should jump automatically to the next IP > bit. This needs a simple TAB now, but automated is > nice. > > 2. After entering the static IP, the netmask should be > automatically populated to 255.255.255.0. User can > change this if needed. > > I know these are trivial but when installing the > distribution a hundred times at various locations, > this will be a little bit easier on the installer. I'd suggest you file a RFE for 1 and 2 in bugzilla. Gilboa From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 14:11:12 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:11:12 -0500 Subject: xemacs performance unacceptable Message-ID: With most recent rawhide updates, performance of editing using xemacs is unacceptably slow, because with each character insert, X keeps flashing the "busy" pointer. From netwiz at crc.id.au Wed Feb 22 15:03:16 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:03:16 +1100 (EST) Subject: No DVB support in newer kernels? Message-ID: <38737.203.56.246.92.1140620596.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Has there been a decision to not include DVB support in the newer kernels? I've got 2.6.15-1.1939_FC5 running, and there seems to be no DVB modules available at all. -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From harald at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 15:13:54 2006 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:13:54 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: udev-071-0.FC4.3 Message-ID: <200602221513.k1MFDs118867@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-123 2006-02-22 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : udev Version : 071 Release : 0.FC4.3 Summary : A userspace implementation of devfs Description : udev is a implementation of devfs in userspace using sysfs and /sbin/hotplug. It requires a 2.6 kernel to run properly. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This udev update fixes the following issues: - pktcdvd device naming (bz #161268) - dvb permissions (bz #179993) - pilot symlink creation - removed last_rule from ttyUSB, ttyS, ttyACM - added conflict with old module-init-tools --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Harald Hoyer - 071-0.FC4.3 - fixed pktcdvd device nameing (bz #161268) - fixed dvb permissions (bz #179993) - fixed pilot symlink creation - removed last_rule from ttyUSB, ttyS, ttyACM - conflicts with old module-init-tools --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ eac338cab93140cf23a256d1a23e63690c7a1c20 SRPMS/udev-071-0.FC4.3.src.rpm cd2a69683ba3ad836d6d61142cbc2eb88a912fd9 ppc/udev-071-0.FC4.3.ppc.rpm 1e3a8c391d0ff2e42171c897ebf1582d091d19ff ppc/debug/udev-debuginfo-071-0.FC4.3.ppc.rpm 95ae463a052486d3756a249000903945f6fa1706 x86_64/udev-071-0.FC4.3.x86_64.rpm a6e6ce1c3e2ff25f9d7f6273b9e9379500493307 x86_64/debug/udev-debuginfo-071-0.FC4.3.x86_64.rpm f4a13b089f047b32009176e553e71d85c6ad0e31 i386/udev-071-0.FC4.3.i386.rpm 3cbfd08d2c3ad93298d94175f8cdbbbdbde34d62 i386/debug/udev-debuginfo-071-0.FC4.3.i386.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From harald at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 15:13:56 2006 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:13:56 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.3 Message-ID: <200602221513.k1MFDu118876@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-124 2006-02-22 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : module-init-tools Version : 3.2 Release : 0.pre9.0.FC4.3 Summary : Kernel module management utilities. Description : The modutils package includes various programs needed for automatic loading and unloading of modules under 2.2 and later kernels, as well as other module management programs. Device drivers and filesystems are two examples of loaded and unloaded modules. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This module-init-tools adds a stub /etc/modprobe.conf.dist which is included by older /etc/modprobe.conf config files. This avoids the printing of a warning. Matrox framebuffer modules are also not autoloaded with this version. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Harald Hoyer 3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.3 - blacklisted matroxfb_base also (bz #180801) * Tue Feb 21 2006 Harald Hoyer 3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.2 - added /etc/modprobe.conf.dist with config(missingok) (bz #180391) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ ea1a44be18e9cd0890e12f758063b53cb387fbd6 SRPMS/module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.3.src.rpm 07d218c3d7fadbf7c32644a96d802cd66d1f6337 ppc/module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.3.ppc.rpm 1e0b968977a0994b904eca35d050eb5da7aee688 ppc/debug/module-init-tools-debuginfo-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.3.ppc.rpm f671eae88754b8d7da011b0654f2a00d0d2169e3 x86_64/module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.3.x86_64.rpm 17d97981e000201af9f007c32c9840915f503354 x86_64/debug/module-init-tools-debuginfo-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.3.x86_64.rpm f38d062dc203a4220ce978aa013ff918ef9b0398 i386/module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.3.i386.rpm 2f14a4956a373c56447359f632b9339ddcfc7eaf i386/debug/module-init-tools-debuginfo-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.3.i386.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Wed Feb 22 15:18:42 2006 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:18:42 -0500 Subject: FC5 Test 3 can't even boot Message-ID: On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:06:43 -0700, Stanton Finley commented: > On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 21:35 -0500, Fulko Hew wrote: > > I'm trying FC5 for the first time on my laptop (Compal CL-50) > > where I've been running all other releases of Fedora Core > > for the last copule of years. > > > > After starting from a DVD (the first time I've ever > > tried that. I get a mangled graphic, plus the usual > > message about graphical versus text mode install > > followed by: > > > > [F1-Main] [F2-Options] [F3-General] [F4-Kernel] [F5-Rescue] > > Unknown keyword in config file. > > boot: > > > > Pressing enter, or entering 'linux text' > > just returns the error message: > > > > "Could not find kernel image: linux" > > > > Pressing Fn does absolutely nothing. > > > > Comments are always welcome. > > Same here. I filed bugs here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182147 and here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178143 A followup to my own post... I retried the installation with a set of CD's and I still have the same problem. So I have added a 'me too' to bugzilla entry # 182147 From buildsys at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 15:22:47 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:22:47 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060222 changes Message-ID: <200602221522.k1MFMlVf027874@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: NetworkManager-0.5.1-13.cvs20060221 ----------------------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Dan Williams 0.5.1-13.cvs20060221 - Add BuildRequires: libnl-devel (#rh179438#) - Fix libnm_glib to not clobber an application's existing dbus connection (#rh177546#, gnome.org #326572) - libnotify support - AP compatibility fixes anaconda-10.92.7-1 ------------------ * Tue Feb 21 2006 Chris Lumens 10.92.7-1 - Give Language a default display_mode (dcantrel) - Get languages that need a default from localeInfo (dcantrel) * Tue Feb 21 2006 Chris Lumens 10.92.6-1 - Set a default language on text mode CJK installs (dcantrel, #180417) - Fix case-sensitive matching of devices (notting, #182231) - Be smarter about required media (pnasrat) - Set MTU in the loader (katzj) - Add dev package to remove blacklist (katzj, #181593) - Try to mount device as ext3 in hard drive installs (katzj) - Sanity check unknown package & group names (pnasrat) - Reboot after writing exception dump (#181745) - Confirm in interactive kickstart installs (#181741) - Fix showing kickstart package selection again - Don't traceback if we find a %include file that doesn't exist yet (#181760) - Skip partitioning if logvol or raid is given in ks (#181806) - Initialize UTC checkbox (#181737) beagle-0.2.1-8 -------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Matthias Clasen 0.2.1-8 - Autostart beagled by default - Use anacron - Install the firefox extension - Add a trigger to reinstall the firefox extension on firefox updates - Adapt crawl-rules to Fedora * Fri Feb 17 2006 Karsten Hopp 0.2.1-7 - add BuildRequires checkpolicy-1.29.4-1 -------------------- * Thu Feb 16 2006 Dan Walsh - 1.29.4-1 - Latest upgrade from NSA * Added a check for failure to declare each sensitivity in a level definition. * Changed to clone level data for aliased sensitivities to avoid double free upon sens_destroy. Bug reported by Kevin Carr of Tresys Technology. cryptsetup-luks-1.0.1-5 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Karsten Hopp 1.0.1-5 - BuildRequires: libselinux-devel dhcp-11:3.0.3-24 ---------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 11:3.0.3-24 - Apply upstream fix for bug 176615 / ISC RT#15811 gnome-doc-utils-0.5.6-1 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Matthias Clasen - 0.5.6-1 - Update to 0.5.6 gnome-user-docs-2.13.1.1-1 -------------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.13.1.1-1 - Update to 2.13.1.1 kdebase-6:3.5.1-5 ----------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-5 - fixed rpm file conflict - added missing Category X-KDE-LookNFeel * Thu Feb 16 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-4 - Systray icons not docked sometimes, apply patch to fix this issue #180314 * Wed Feb 15 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-3 - kscreensaver/kdm/kcheckpass use a separate PAM config file #66902 - cleanup kdm config file #166388 - apply patch to launch kde scripts in shutdown,env directories #178326 - kdm.log logrotate-enabled #178328 - add konqueror webshortcuts for fedora project #178366 - don't include unnecessary README #169331 kdegraphics-7:3.5.1-3 --------------------- * Thu Feb 16 2006 Than Ngo 7:3.5.1-3 - apply patch to fix kpdf build with modular-X again #173836 kdelibs-6:3.5.1-2.3 ------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-2.3 - apply patch to fix missing icons in KDE main menu - requires redhat-artwork >= 0.239-2 - don't own /usr/share/icons/hicolor #178319 - remove broken links #154093 kernel-2.6.15-1.1975_FC5 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 21 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc4-git2 - Make some more UP x86-64s able to boot an SMP kernel by forcing the number of CPUs to at least 1. - default fat filesystems to use UTF-8 * Tue Feb 21 2006 Rik van Riel - Make it possible to disable xen and kdump builds. - Add Xen cpu steal accounting code. * Mon Feb 20 2006 Dave Jones - Fix incorrect hardlink count in selinuxfs (#182001) kudzu-1.2.31-1 -------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Bill Nottingham - 1.2.31-1 - further x86emu-related fixes (#181467) libXvMC-1.0.1-3 --------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-3 - Added libXvMC-1.0.1-libXvMC-XConfigDir-fix-bug180902.patch to fix (#180902) libsemanage-1.5.28-1 -------------------- * Fri Feb 17 2006 Dan Walsh - 1.5.28-1 - Upgrade to latest from NSA * Merged bug fix for fcontext validate handler from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged base_merge_components changes from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Thu Feb 16 2006 Dan Walsh - 1.5.26-1 - Upgrade to latest from NSA * Merged paths array patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged bug fix patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged improve bindings patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged use PyList patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged memory leak fix patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged nodecon support patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged cleanups patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged split swig patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. libsepol-1.11.18-2 ------------------ * Mon Feb 20 2006 Dan Walsh 1.11.18-2 - Rebuild for fc5-head * Fri Feb 17 2006 Dan Walsh 1.11.18-1 - Upgrade to latest from NSA * Merged node_expand_addr bugfix and node_compare* change from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Thu Feb 16 2006 Dan Walsh 1.11.17-1 - Upgrade to latest from NSA * Merged nodes, ports: always prepend patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged bug fix patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Added a defined flag to level_datum_t for use by checkpolicy. * Merged nodecon support patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged cleanups patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. libuser-0.54.5-1 ---------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Miloslav Trmac - 0.54.5-1 - Fix multilib conflict on libuser.conf.5 openssh-4.3p2-2 --------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Tomas Mraz - 4.3p2-2 - print error from scp if not remote (patch by Bjorn Augustsson #178923) pirut-0.9.13-1 -------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Jeremy Katz - 0.9.13-1 - add files * Tue Feb 21 2006 Jeremy Katz - 0.9.12-1 - enable search functionality * Tue Feb 21 2006 Jeremy Katz - 0.9.11-1 - Don't try to install source packages (#180048) - Fix wrong error name (#181370) - Ensure group is selected for select all - Log installs from all tools in yum.log (#182126) - Don't traceback on servers not telling us the size (#181890) - Start of work for search to work - Add some details about what's selected for install/remove (#182126) policycoreutils-1.29.26-1 ------------------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 Dan Walsh 1.29.26-1 - Update from upstream * Merged semanage bug fix patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged improve bindings patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged semanage usage patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged use PyList patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. pykickstart-0.21-1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 17 2006 Chris Lumens 0.21-1 - Provide an option to not traceback on missing include files (#181760). - Update programming documentation. redhat-artwork-0.239-2 ---------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Than Ngo 0.239-2 - link KDE upstream icon names to the redhat ones in bluecurve selinux-policy-2.2.19-2 ----------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.19-2 - Fix swapon - allow httpd_sys_script_t to be entered via a shell - Allow httpd_sys_script_t to read eventpolfs * Tue Feb 21 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.19-1 - Update from upstream * Tue Feb 21 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.18-2 - allow cron to read apache files xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.7.3-4 -------------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Mike A. Harris 6.5.7.3-4 - Added xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.7.3-radeon-metamodes-SEGV-fix.patch from CVS HEAD. xorg-x11-font-utils-1:1.0.1-2 ----------------------------- * Fri Feb 17 2006 Mike A. Harris 1:1.0.1-2 - Added with_X11R6_compat macro to conditionalize inclusion of mkfontdir and mkfontscale symlinks in the old X11R6 locations, pointing to the X11R7 binaries. This will provide backward compatibilty for Fedora Core 5, however 3rd party developers and rpm package maintainers should update to using the new X11R7 locations immediately, as these compatibility links are temporary, and will be removed from a future OS release. - Remove system directories from file manifest to appease the banshees. * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating 1:1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating 1:1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.1-2 ---------------------- * Thu Feb 16 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-2 - Change Conflicts to Obsoletes for xorg-x11 and XFree86 (#181414) xorg-x11-xkbdata-1.0.1-3 ------------------------ * Tue Feb 21 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-3 - Added xkbdata-1.0.1-greek-fix-bug181313.patch to fix (#181313,181313) - Added xkbdata-1.0.1-cz-fix-bug177362.patch to fix (#177362,178892) yaboot-1.3.13-0.18 ------------------ * Tue Feb 21 2006 Paul Nasrat - 1.3.13-0.18 - Drop telnet console patch for now (#182180) Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Wed Feb 22 15:25:30 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:25:30 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: module-init-tools-3.2-0.pre9.0.FC4.3 In-Reply-To: <200602221513.k1MFDu118876@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> References: <200602221513.k1MFDu118876@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140621930.2979.33.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 10:13 -0500, Harald Hoyer wrote: > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fedora Test Update Notification > FEDORA-2006-124 > 2006-02-22 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Product : Fedora Core 4 > Name : module-init-tools > Version : 3.2 > Release : 0.pre9.0.FC4.3 > Summary : Kernel module management utilities. > Description : > The modutils package includes various programs needed for automatic > loading and unloading of modules under 2.2 and later kernels, as well does it still support 2.2 kernels? If not this text wants improving ;) From brunson at brunson.com Wed Feb 22 15:40:59 2006 From: brunson at brunson.com (Eric Brunson) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:40:59 -0500 Subject: Install test3 from Hard Drive In-Reply-To: <43FC64BB.6080600@bigpond.net.au> References: <43FB8652.2030807@brunson.com> <43FC64BB.6080600@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <43FC860B.8080601@brunson.com> David Timms wrote: > Eric Brunson wrote: >> Is there a way to coerce the test3 installer to read its ISO images >> from a filesystem on an LVM VG? > I tried this about a month ago, but couldn't find out what would be > needed. I understand though that the 80M rescue cd contains a much > wider range of device and logical drivers than the boot.iso, and it > may just be a matter of passing the correct value in the boot: prompt > or in the hard disk method ? I tried the rescue disk. It too appears to have the problem that the initial system it boots into can't read LVM, not until you choose the go into rescue mode does it seem to activate the lvm and vgscan. > > I resorted to making some /home/install space on an ext3 drive so that > the isos would be available; I have also got around it by mounting the > iso's on another machine and making them available over ftp. (for dvd > mount on eg disc, while for CD mkdirs of disc1, d2, d3, d4 etc and > give the disc1 folder as the image location. I guess FTP is my next best hope to avoid burning the CDs. With the default layout of Fedora being 100M ext3 and everything else LVM is seems pretty obvious that the installer should need to be able to read LVM. I may file a feature request. > > DaveT. > From carrerasg at noesnada.com Wed Feb 22 15:49:00 2006 From: carrerasg at noesnada.com (Glen Carreras) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:49:00 -0300 Subject: Following upgrade of FC5 with T3 device mapper failure during boot Message-ID: <43FC87EC.6020301@noesnada.com> I just tried an upgrade from T2 to the T3 release. I was running Fedora in VMWare (the VM community released version) on a WinXP host. The upgrade went smoothly however upon rebooting to the newly upgraded version I am greeted with a panic. The pertinent information that I can see at this point are in the following lines. No volume groups found Unable to find volgroup "VolGroup00" unable to access resume device (dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01) Any other info that might be useful I will be happy to supply. Also, any help with fixing this would be much appreciated, the install was looooong and I hate to think I lost all that time :) Thanks, Glen From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 16:03:49 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:03:49 -0500 Subject: beagle update issue (today) Message-ID: 3:Installing beagle ####################################################### [ 3%] Output from beagle-0.2.1-8 at x86_64: firefox-1.5.0.1-3 /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.94062: line 5: cd: /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.0.1/extensions: No such file or directory unzip: cannot find or open /usr/lib/beagle/beagle.xpi, /usr/lib/beagle/beagle.xpi.zip or /usr/lib/beagl e/beagle.xpi.ZIP. grep: beagle-extension/install.rdf: No such file or directory mv: target `' is not a directory: No such file or directory error: %post(beagle-0.2.1-8.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 From rstrode at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 16:11:45 2006 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:11:45 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1140571132.8080.7.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1140571132.8080.7.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140624705.2464.17.camel@halflap> Hi, > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:05 -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > > [snip] > > > Things are still quite raw, so expect things to crash, your system to > > lock up, effects to be unpolished, etc. > Is there a bugzilla component I should file problems against? Not, yet. Everything but the updated server is in rawhide, so maybe we can get away with sneaking in another component to FC5. Then again, Adam is thinking about pushing regular driver updates, mesa updates, etc, to his repo, so maybe we should create a new product. I guess it's really up to Adam and Mike. What do you guys think? > > Are there debuginfo packages for the repo? The ones in rawhide have debuginfo packages of course. The updated server didn't because my disk quota filled up. I removed the packages that we got in rawhide and that made room for the debuginfo package. > I'm getting the Xair server apparently crashing during the login. Upon > investigation, it's an exit here: > (gdb) bt > #0 0x00b718c6 in exit () from /lib/libc.so.6 > #1 0x00f4cb96 in intelAllocateMemoryMESA () > from /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so It's calling exit() from an AllocateMemory function? Maybe you don't have enough texture memory or something? What resolution are you running at? What happens if you lower your resolution? > #2 0x00f4d708 in intelWaitForIdle () from /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so > #3 0x00f4d732 in intelFinish () from /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so > #4 0x00f6aaf2 in _mesa_Finish () from /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so > #5 0x003e6423 in __glXSwapBuffers () > from /usr/lib/xair/modules/extensions/libglx.so > #6 0x003ec750 in __glXForceCurrent () > from /usr/lib/xair/modules/extensions/libglx.so > #7 0x008a8ddc in DRIUnlockedCallback () > from /usr/lib/xair/modules/extensions/libdri.so > #8 0x003ec8e1 in __glXForceCurrent () > from /usr/lib/xair/modules/extensions/libglx.so > #9 0x080845d6 in Dispatch () > #10 0x0806e2f9 in main () > > Top tip for debugging: ssh into the test machine from another host, > locate the Xair process, and run a "gdb attach" onto that process from > there, type "cont" to get the X server to continue. You then have a > vaguely sane debug environment, and can "break exit" (how I got the > above). > > Should these notes be on the wiki? Sure! Please add them. --Ray From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 16:16:41 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:16:41 -0500 Subject: hpssd error messages on startup Message-ID: Feb 22 11:12:04 nbecker4 hpiod: 0.9.8 accepting connections at 50000... Feb 22 11:12:06 nbecker4 python: hpssd [ERROR] Server exited with error: Unable to bind to socket Feb 22 11:12:07 nbecker4 hp: unable to open /var/run/hpssd.port: No such file or directory: prnt/hpijs/hplip_api.c 94 Feb 22 11:12:07 nbecker4 hpiod: invalid message: Feb 22 11:12:07 nbecker4 hp: unable to connect hpssd socket 50002: Connection refused: prnt/hpijs/hplip_api.c 719 Fe From mclasen at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 16:17:48 2006 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:17:48 -0500 Subject: beagle update issue (today) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1140625068.23024.25.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 11:03 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > 3:Installing beagle ####################################################### [ 3%] > Output from beagle-0.2.1-8 at x86_64: > firefox-1.5.0.1-3 > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.94062: line 5: cd: /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.0.1/extensions: No such file or directory > unzip: cannot find or open /usr/lib/beagle/beagle.xpi, /usr/lib/beagle/beagle.xpi.zip or /usr/lib/beagl e/beagle.xpi.ZIP. > grep: beagle-extension/install.rdf: No such file or directory > mv: target `' is not a directory: No such file or directory > error: %post(beagle-0.2.1-8.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 > Will be fixed tomorrow From gnomeuser at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 16:22:32 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:22:32 +0100 Subject: beagle update issue (today) In-Reply-To: <1140625068.23024.25.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> References: <1140625068.23024.25.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140625352.2107.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> ons, 22 02 2006 kl. 11:17 -0500, skrev Matthias Clasen: > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 11:03 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > > 3:Installing beagle ####################################################### [ 3%] > > Output from beagle-0.2.1-8 at x86_64: > > firefox-1.5.0.1-3 > > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.94062: line 5: cd: /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.0.1/extensions: No such file or directory > > unzip: cannot find or open /usr/lib/beagle/beagle.xpi, /usr/lib/beagle/beagle.xpi.zip or /usr/lib/beagl e/beagle.xpi.ZIP. > > grep: beagle-extension/install.rdf: No such file or directory > > mv: target `' is not a directory: No such file or directory > > error: %post(beagle-0.2.1-8.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 > > > > Will be fixed tomorrow It also spews an error if you don't have firefox installed. Updating : beagle ####################### [ 8/54] package firefox is not installed - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From netwiz at crc.id.au Wed Feb 22 16:26:49 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:26:49 +1100 (EST) Subject: No DVB support in newer kernels? In-Reply-To: <38737.203.56.246.92.1140620596.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <38737.203.56.246.92.1140620596.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <41252.203.56.246.92.1140625609.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> On Thu, February 23, 2006 2:03 am, Steven Haigh wrote: > Has there been a decision to not include DVB support in the newer kernels? > > I've got 2.6.15-1.1939_FC5 running, and there seems to be no DVB modules > available at all. > Ah. This looks like my fault. There are no dvb modules in the i586 kernel - they only seem to exist in the athlon and i686 kernel RPMs. The machine in question was upgraded from a Via Eden board to a Celeron 2.4Ghz and I never changed the kernel from an i586 one to an i686 one. Updating this gave me the required dvb modules - now if I could only get them to work :) -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From tsimi at speakeasy.net Wed Feb 22 16:56:28 2006 From: tsimi at speakeasy.net (tsimi at speakeasy.net) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:56:28 +0000 Subject: Mouse & Keyboard Locks-up in FC5t3 Message-ID: Hi, I had this issue in FC5t2 as well. While in gnome, my mouse will partially stop functioning. I can move the cursor, but none of the buttons will do anything. At this point the keyboard still works. If I have an open terminal I can ALT-TAB to it and run another application, and the mouse starts to work fine again. If I don't have a terminal window open however, all I can do is keyboard entery into the open programs (if any). Aside from the open programs, all I can do id either CTRL-ALT-F# to go to another login screen, which works fine, or CTRL-ALR-BKSP to shut X down. But when I return to gnome after going to another login, the keyboard is completely locked-up and I have to reset the machine. Any Ideas? Thanks Todd From lynn at garlic.com Wed Feb 22 16:56:00 2006 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:56:00 -0700 Subject: FC5T3 anaconda failure during install? In-Reply-To: <20060222161756.F1AFA73848@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060222161756.F1AFA73848@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43FC97A0.5040206@garlic.com> did cdrom image download, sha1sum check and media check after burning CDs. booting disk1 (or booting recovery cd and switching to disk1, as well as trying various combinations of unplugging devices) ... after doing skip media ... next is the anaconda message ... followed almost immediately by install failed message ... then unmounts a bunch of stuff and message about ready to reboot. so i go back and do a fresh install from FC5T2 disks and then yum update of everything to get me up to FC5T3 level. the only problem is that I only did root filesystem as part of install. after getting fully updated, I try to create and mount a separate /home filesystem (both doing graphical logical volume and manually with mkfs and mount). this failed with mount error message about block device being write-protected and not being able to do mount a write-protected block device. after several attempts, i change selinux to permissive and able to mount /home filesystem (and then restore it). From islifefun1975 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 22 17:03:08 2006 From: islifefun1975 at yahoo.com (Josh) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:03:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: FC5T3 x86-64 terse install report (with one install bug?) In-Reply-To: <200602220702.13067.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <20060222170308.38091.qmail@web34012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > I will be installing FC5T3 on a few more systems and > laptops next week :) if installing on hundreds of machines i would be using dhcp, and i would be using kickstart to automate the installs I would have considered this if all systems were on the same network, at the same location and upgraded at the same time. Josh --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notting at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 17:04:30 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:04:30 -0500 Subject: Kudzu fails with segfault on FC5 Test 3 on HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602212205v448d1bcdyd1dfc041451283b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <1140497548.4061.18.camel@stantonfinley.org> <1140504194.4061.22.camel@stantonfinley.org> <20060221170233.GD3831@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1140542120.3531.6.camel@stantonfinley.org> <20060221171725.GA20995@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <8767947e0602212205v448d1bcdyd1dfc041451283b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060222170430.GB5568@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Jonathan Berry (berryja at gmail.com) said: > Is this the same issue as with x86_64 (and nVidia)? Or is there a > separate bug for that? There is a separate bug, and it *should* be fixed with kudzu-1.2.31-1 in rawhide today. Bill From michael.favia at insitesinc.com Wed Feb 22 17:12:50 2006 From: michael.favia at insitesinc.com (Michael Favia) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:12:50 -0600 Subject: Metacity and terminals In-Reply-To: <200602221057.k1MAvsI4015503@tiffany.internal.tigress.co.uk> References: <200602221057.k1MAvsI4015503@tiffany.internal.tigress.co.uk> Message-ID: <43FC9B92.7080401@insitesinc.com> Ron Yorston wrote: > I'd really, really, really like to see this experimental patch > reverted. Or at least have some way to configure it, preferably with > the old behaviour as default. I'd really have to agree on this one. While it would makeseince for apps that take a while to start or for starting apps in the background, it just doesn't seem to apply to most of my use cases. I also find it annoying and unpredictable behavior. Honestly it reminds me of the evil "popunder browser windows" of the late 90's :(. -mf -- Michael Favia michael.favia at insitesinc.com Insites Incorporated http://michael.insitesinc.com From orion at cora.nwra.com Wed Feb 22 17:20:06 2006 From: orion at cora.nwra.com (Orion Poplawski) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:20:06 -0700 Subject: Any instructions on how to do a netboot kickstart install on ppc with FC5T3? Message-ID: I'm pretty new to the ppc architecture and really have no clue how to start a kickstart install on a ppc Mac via network (PXE? netboot?) start. I do PXE installs on x86 all the time... - Orion From dmalcolm at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 17:25:50 2006 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:25:50 -0500 Subject: Evolution Printing (Was Re: rawhide report: 20060222 changes) In-Reply-To: <200602221522.k1MFMlVf027874@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602221522.k1MFMlVf027874@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140629151.18057.3.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 10:22 -0500, Build System wrote: > > > Updated Packages: > > NetworkManager-0.5.1-13.cvs20060221 > ----------------------------------- > * Tue Feb 21 2006 Dan Williams 0.5.1-13.cvs20060221 > - Add BuildRequires: libnl-devel (#rh179438#) > - Fix libnm_glib to not clobber an application's existing dbus connection > (#rh177546#, gnome.org #326572) Looks like this does indeed fix printing within Evolution Thanks Dan > - libnotify support > - AP compatibility fixes > [snip] Dave From pbrobinson at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 17:32:26 2006 From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:32:26 +0000 Subject: Evolution Printing (Was Re: rawhide report: 20060222 changes) In-Reply-To: <1140629151.18057.3.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <200602221522.k1MFMlVf027874@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1140629151.18057.3.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <5256d0b0602220932i43291a3n618e947d1b0271f9@mail.gmail.com> On 2/22/06, David Malcolm wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 10:22 -0500, Build System wrote: > > > > > > Updated Packages: > > > > NetworkManager-0.5.1-13.cvs20060221 > > ----------------------------------- > > * Tue Feb 21 2006 Dan Williams 0.5.1-13.cvs20060221 > > - Add BuildRequires: libnl-devel (#rh179438#) > > - Fix libnm_glib to not clobber an application's existing dbus connection > > (#rh177546#, gnome.org #326572) > > Looks like this does indeed fix printing within Evolution Looking at the bug it seems similar to the one I was experiencing... time to test when I get home. It had references in the debug output similar to the stuff in that bug. FYI bug 179546 Cheers, Pete From borgi2008 at yahoo.de Wed Feb 22 16:34:28 2006 From: borgi2008 at yahoo.de (Borgi2008) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:34:28 +0100 Subject: No DVB support in newer kernels? In-Reply-To: <38737.203.56.246.92.1140620596.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <38737.203.56.246.92.1140620596.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <43FC9294.9090609@yahoo.de> Steven Haigh schrieb: > Has there been a decision to not include DVB support in the newer kernels? > > I've got 2.6.15-1.1939_FC5 running, and there seems to be no DVB modules > available at all. > > I think i have DVB support my Airstar 2 DVB-T card works out of the box. Perhaps you must load the modules manually. Hendrik Borghorst ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de From grabka999 at interia.pl Wed Feb 22 17:43:01 2006 From: grabka999 at interia.pl (Marcin Grabda) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:43:01 +0100 Subject: Metacity and terminals In-Reply-To: <200602221057.k1MAvsI4015503@tiffany.internal.tigress.co.uk> References: <200602221057.k1MAvsI4015503@tiffany.internal.tigress.co.uk> Message-ID: <43FCA2A5.4020104@interia.pl> Ron Yorston wrote: > I installed fc5t3 last night, mostly without incident. I haven't had > much time to use it yet so there are one or two things I'll need to > look into and may report later. However, one immediate thing. > > There's an experimental patch to metacity that causes GUI applications > started from a terminal to appear underneath the terminal window. > Applications started from a launcher appear on top, as before. The > upstream rationale for this and the Red Hat Bugzilla entry for it are > here: > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326159 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178389 > > I'm a developer. I spend a lot of time working in terminal windows > doing things like 'vi prog.c; make; ./prog'. Once I've typed './prog' > I expect my sparkly new program to appear so that I can see if my evil > kludge has finally nailed the latest bug the users have been (quite > unjustifiably) complaining about. I don't want to have to drag the > sparkly new program up from underneath my terminal window. > > The first time this happens it's a surprise. The second time it's > irrirating. After the twentieth time I'll be saying Very Rude Things > Indeed about metacity, its maintainer, his family and their pets. And > I'm sure Elijah wouldn't want that. > > I really can't think of any case where I'd want to start an application > from a terminal window and not have it appear on top. For the way I > work the new behaviour is always wrong and it isn't even possible to > turn it off. > > I'd really, really, really like to see this experimental patch > reverted. Or at least have some way to configure it, preferably with > the old behaviour as default. > > Ron > > I agree. It's really irritating. Marcin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ocen dziewczyny Playboya!!! >>> http://link.interia.pl/f190f From orion at cora.nwra.com Wed Feb 22 17:46:11 2006 From: orion at cora.nwra.com (Orion Poplawski) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:46:11 -0700 Subject: FC5T3 upgrade attempt fails on mac mini Message-ID: Booted from the CD. After clicking on the "Install anyway" button the installer crashes and the system shuts down. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182457 From orion at cora.nwra.com Wed Feb 22 18:04:04 2006 From: orion at cora.nwra.com (Orion Poplawski) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:04:04 -0700 Subject: A thought - new testing bugs posted here... Message-ID: Perhaps we could get *new* bugs filed for fc#test# posted to this list? From Stephane.Gaucher at USherbrooke.ca Wed Feb 22 18:31:04 2006 From: Stephane.Gaucher at USherbrooke.ca (Stephane Gaucher) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:31:04 -0500 Subject: No DVB support in newer kernels? In-Reply-To: <43FC9294.9090609@yahoo.de> References: <38737.203.56.246.92.1140620596.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <43FC9294.9090609@yahoo.de> Message-ID: <1140633064.43fcade8d400d@www.usherbrooke.ca> > > Has there been a decision to not include DVB support in the newer kernels? > > > > I've got 2.6.15-1.1939_FC5 running, and there seems to be no DVB modules > > available at all. > > > > > I think i have DVB support my Airstar 2 DVB-T card works out of the box. > Perhaps you must load the modules manually. I have actually the same probleme. But I direct my solution to a re-compilation of a new kernel (with the support activated). I got a probleme with the new kernel: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS... Any idea !?! From dmalcolm at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 18:36:48 2006 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:36:48 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1140571132.8080.7.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <43FBDAE1.2060506@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140633409.18057.8.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 10:56 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Feb 21, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Christopher Blizzard wrote: > > > David Malcolm wrote: > >> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:05 -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > >> [snip] > >>> Things are still quite raw, so expect things to crash, your system to > >>> lock up, effects to be unpolished, etc. > >> Is there a bugzilla component I should file problems against? > > > > Probably against x.org, or just mail ajax. Adam, does that sound OK > > with you? Also update the wiki if you can... > > Just poking me directly is best for now. > > > --Chris > > > >> Are there debuginfo packages for the repo? > >> I'm getting the Xair server apparently crashing during the login. > >> Upon > >> investigation, it's an exit here: > >> (gdb) bt > >> #0 0x00b718c6 in exit () from /lib/libc.so.6 > >> #1 0x00f4cb96 in intelAllocateMemoryMESA () > >> from /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so > >> #2 0x00f4d708 in intelWaitForIdle () from /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so > > Is there anything printed on X's stderr before this happens? (telinit > 3, startx from one ssh session, gdb attach from another to find out). > It's exiting at line 88 below: 68 static void intelWaitIrq( intelContextPtr intel, int seq ) 69 { 70 drmI830IrqWait iw; 71 int ret; 72 73 if (0) 74 fprintf(stderr, "%s %d\n", __FUNCTION__, seq ); 75 76 iw.irq_seq = seq; 77 78 do { 79 ret = drmCommandWrite( intel->driFd, DRM_I830_IRQ_WAIT, &iw, sizeof(iw) ); 80 } while (ret == -EAGAIN || ret == -EINTR); 81 82 if ( ret ) { 83 fprintf( stderr, "%s: drmI830IrqWait: %d\n", __FUNCTION__, ret ); 84 if (0) 85 intel_dump_batchbuffer( intel->alloc.offset, 86 intel->alloc.ptr, 87 intel->alloc.size ); 88 exit(1); (gdb) print intel->alloc $1 = {ptr = 0xa405b000, size = 262144, offset = 197361664, active_buf = 0, irq_emitted = 20} (gdb) print ret $2 = 36 (BTW I'm booting this laptop with "acpi=noirq" in order to get wireless working, maybe that's it?) > I suspect the hackaround I did for libcwrapper braindamage didn't make > its way into our Xair package. The only thing I can see on this exit > path that would cause this kind of error is libdrm calls failing with > exotic errno values, which happens all the time if you hit the > libcwrapper'd libdrm. > > >> Top tip for debugging: ssh into the test machine from another host, > >> locate the Xair process, and run a "gdb attach" onto that process from > >> there, type "cont" to get the X server to continue. You then have a > >> vaguely sane debug environment, and can "break exit" (how I got the > >> above). Should these notes be on the wiki? > > Better would be to link to the canonical set: > > http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/DebuggingTheXserver > Unfortunately, the wiki page has been marked "Immutable" From mandreiana.lists at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 18:36:29 2006 From: mandreiana.lists at gmail.com (Marius Andreiana) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:36:29 +0200 Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? In-Reply-To: <43FC10F5.6090206@mharris.ca> References: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> <43FC10F5.6090206@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <1140633389.3250.3.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 02:21 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Preface: My response is rather verbose, because I believe this is a > very important issue, and is one I've put a tremendous amount of thought > and effort into for the last 2-4 years, so I have a lot of ideas and > opinions to express. Thanks Mike for the verbose and useful response! It really shows what does it mean to be an Operating System developer and the fact that there isn't an easy solution to decrease the number of bugs (both in code and reported). Hoping that fedora-test members will be able to help a little, -- Marius Andreiana From mandreiana.lists at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 18:54:39 2006 From: mandreiana.lists at gmail.com (Marius Andreiana) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:54:39 +0200 Subject: xmms fonts in playlist broken (just me?) In-Reply-To: <1140603466.2384.204.camel@dragon.sys.intra> References: <1140603466.2384.204.camel@dragon.sys.intra> Message-ID: <1140634479.3250.11.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 19:17 +0900, Naoki wrote: > Latest rawhide (yesterday), xmms-1.2.10-20.fc5 NOTE: this mail belongs to fedora-test list, not fedora-devel I've reported this bug with FC5test1 (on Extras), search bugzilla.redhat.com for it. It's closed now as it worked after some updates (cause unknown), but it's broken again. Please add a comment to the existing bug. -- Marius Andreiana From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Wed Feb 22 19:08:56 2006 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:08:56 +0100 Subject: ppc32 kernel/zaptel missing symbol & turn off -fstack-protector Message-ID: <1140635336.17450.9.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Hi all, On a RS/6000 43P-150 (32bit PPC CHRP) box I was compiling zaptel (the drivers that are part of the Asterisk project) and saw the following warnings & error messages: CC [M] /home/patrick/redhat/BUILD/zaptel-1.2.4/ztdummy.o Building modules, stage 2. MODPOST *** Warning: "__stack_chk_fail" [/home/patrick/redhat/BUILD/zaptel-1.2.4/ztdynamic.ko] undefined! *** Warning: "__stack_chk_fail" [/home/patrick/redhat/BUILD/zaptel-1.2.4/ztd-eth.ko] undefined! *** Warning: "__stack_chk_fail" [/home/patrick/redhat/BUILD/zaptel-1.2.4/zaptel.ko] undefined! *** Warning: "__stack_chk_fail" [/home/patrick/redhat/BUILD/zaptel-1.2.4/wcusb.ko] undefined! *** Warning: "__stack_chk_fail" [/home/patrick/redhat/BUILD/zaptel-1.2.4/wcte11xp.ko] undefined! *** Warning: "__stack_chk_fail" [/home/patrick/redhat/BUILD/zaptel-1.2.4/wctdm24xxp.ko] undefined! *** Warning: "__stack_chk_fail" [/home/patrick/redhat/BUILD/zaptel-1.2.4/wctdm.ko] undefined! *** Warning: "__stack_chk_fail" [/home/patrick/redhat/BUILD/zaptel-1.2.4/wct4xxp.ko] undefined! *** Warning: "__stack_chk_fail" [/home/patrick/redhat/BUILD/zaptel-1.2.4/pciradio.ko] undefined! RPM builds fine though. When I modprobe the zaptel module I get: [root at box ~]# modprobe -v zaptel insmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5/extra/zaptel.ko FATAL: Error inserting zaptel (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5/extra/zaptel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) [root at box ~]# dmesg | grep zaptel zaptel: Unknown symbol __stack_chk_fail zaptel: Unknown symbol __stack_chk_fail One of the developers of Asterisk told me it is cause by -fstack-protector. This indeed shows up during the compilation of the zaptel kernel modules. A sugesstion was to turn off -fstack-protector. Anyone have a hint how I do that in e.g. the rpm spec file? Thanks and regards, Patrick From admin at ramshacklestudios.com Wed Feb 22 19:19:03 2006 From: admin at ramshacklestudios.com (Peter Gordon) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:19:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: ppc32 kernel/zaptel missing symbol & turn off -fstack-protector In-Reply-To: <1140635336.17450.9.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1140635336.17450.9.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <39565.127.0.0.1.1140635943.squirrel@www.ramshacklestudios.com> Patrick said: > One of the developers of Asterisk told me it is cause by > -fstack-protector. This indeed shows up during the compilation of the > zaptel kernel modules. > > A sugesstion was to turn off -fstack-protector. Anyone have a hint how I > do that in e.g. the rpm spec file? One way is to add "-fno-stack-protector" to the compiler flags (e.g., %{optflags} or $RPM_OPT_FLAGS for rpm's building tools). Of course, another (probably more secure) way is to patch the code so that it works with the stack-protector. :-P ~~Peter From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Wed Feb 22 19:25:38 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:25:38 +0100 Subject: ppc32 kernel/zaptel missing symbol & turn off -fstack-protector In-Reply-To: <1140635336.17450.9.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1140635336.17450.9.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1140636338.2979.61.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> > One of the developers of Asterisk told me it is cause by > -fstack-protector. This indeed shows up during the compilation of the > zaptel kernel modules. > > A sugesstion was to turn off -fstack-protector. Anyone have a hint how I > do that in e.g. the rpm spec file? if this rpm is using RPM cflags to build kernel modules it's terminally broken..... kernel modules HAVE to use the EXACT flags the kernel provides, but that is fully automatic if you have a "correct" 2.6 module makefile (see Documentation/kbuild/ for details) From admin at ramshacklestudios.com Wed Feb 22 19:28:10 2006 From: admin at ramshacklestudios.com (Peter Gordon) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:28:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: ppc32 kernel/zaptel missing symbol & turn off -fstack-protector In-Reply-To: <1140636338.2979.61.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1140635336.17450.9.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1140636338.2979.61.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <39967.127.0.0.1.1140636490.squirrel@www.ramshacklestudios.com> Arjan van de Ven said: > if this rpm is using RPM cflags to build kernel modules it's terminally > broken..... kernel modules HAVE to use the EXACT flags the kernel > provides, but that is fully automatic if you have a "correct" 2.6 module > makefile (see Documentation/kbuild/ for details) Oh that's right. I completely forgot about kbuild. Please ignore my previous "solution" then. :oops: ~~Peter From jvdias at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 19:39:50 2006 From: jvdias at redhat.com (Jason Vas Dias) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:39:50 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: xterm-208-2.FC4 Message-ID: <200602221939.k1MJdo125580@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-126 2006-02-22 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : xterm Version : 208 Release : 2.FC4 Summary : xterm terminal emulator for the X Window System Description : The xterm program is a terminal emulator for the X Window System. It provides DEC VT102 and Tektronix 4014 compatible terminals for programs that can't use the window system directly. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 208-2.FC4 - fix bug 182382: check for (VWindow(screen)!=0) in set_cursor_gcs - further fix for bug 178302: allow vt100*cursorColor to be same as foreground --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ aebad3897b5cb568a6ffb545cb423fce30349a12 SRPMS/xterm-208-2.FC4.src.rpm 9e1e738a2d950c0f31ec4dd3e91483c77c88a4a6 ppc/xterm-208-2.FC4.ppc.rpm 063c4e510f985f349032b343f67ec089f6aa5986 ppc/debug/xterm-debuginfo-208-2.FC4.ppc.rpm c1b1b163d296e5c841f2635944755d14026e85f8 x86_64/xterm-208-2.FC4.x86_64.rpm d360e349a8eb93e8da1674d7b7f80e14778c6ebc x86_64/debug/xterm-debuginfo-208-2.FC4.x86_64.rpm c22f892db0360c97986779d39079a8d15bf060db i386/xterm-208-2.FC4.i386.rpm 8f994ace285a767847580d74922928b6876671a0 i386/debug/xterm-debuginfo-208-2.FC4.i386.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mandreiana.lists at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 19:42:13 2006 From: mandreiana.lists at gmail.com (Marius Andreiana) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:42:13 +0200 Subject: bug week-end focus: nautilus Message-ID: <1140637333.3250.38.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> Hello there, We're on the last thousand of package updates before Fedora Core 5 hits the shelves of FTPs and torrent trackers everywhere! Meanwhile, bugs are creeping into bugzilla and trying to slow down developers from making the best Fedora release ever. Until the end of this week, let's provide special attention to nautilus bugs. There are 137 open bugs now; here is the link to Red Hat bugzilla query: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=Fedora+Core&component=nautilus&component=nautilus-actions&component=nautilus-cd-burner&component=nautilus-flac-converter&component=nautilus-image-converter&component=nautilus-media&component=nautilus-open-terminal&component=nautilus-search-tool&component=nautilus-sendto&component_text=&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=MODIFIED&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&fixed_in_type=allwordssubstr&fixed_in=&qa_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&qa_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailtype2=exact&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&changedin=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Please go through them and test on FC5testX/rawhide to see if they are still valid. If it works for you, close as WORKSFORME and ask the reporter to reopen if it's still an issue for him after updating to FC5testX/rawhide. However, don't rush with this as some bugs are triggered only in unusual cases (especially segfaults). Sometimes it might not happen to you, but the bug it's still there. If bug is still valid, would be useful to search upstream for the same bugs and add an External Bugzilla Reference to GNOME Desktop bug if found. Here's the link: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/query.cgi?format=advanced (please select nautilus* packages and click search. GNOME Bugzilla seems down for me) Is there anything you could do to help fixing it faster? (provide additional info if requested by developer, testcase, screenshot etc) Remember to add yourself as CC to all bugs you modify (including closing), in order to get notices of further changes. Additional info: The Fedora Bug Squad http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers Success! -- Marius Andreiana From jkeating at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 19:53:45 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:53:45 -0800 Subject: bug week-end focus: nautilus In-Reply-To: <1140637333.3250.38.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> References: <1140637333.3250.38.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> Message-ID: <1140638025.4578.39.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 21:42 +0200, Marius Andreiana wrote: > We're on the last thousand of package updates before Fedora Core 5 hits > the shelves of FTPs and torrent trackers everywhere! Meanwhile, bugs are > creeping into bugzilla and trying to slow down developers from making > the best Fedora release ever. Thank you (all) very much for your efforts!! -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Wed Feb 22 20:27:25 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:27:25 -0500 Subject: X trouble with Intel 82810E DC-133 graphics chipset in FC5T2 In-Reply-To: <1140577713l.15302l.3l@athena.riede.org> References: <1137801249l.6895l.1l@athena.riede.org> <1137992015.21521.10.camel@bree.local.net> <20060123045852.GA32110@redhat.com> <1140568060l.15302l.2l@athena.riede.org> <43FBC0A5.20600@insight.rr.com> <1140577713l.15302l.3l@athena.riede.org> Message-ID: <43FCC92D.1000007@insight.rr.com> Willem Riede wrote: > On 02/21/2006 08:38:45 PM, Jim Cornette wrote: >> Are you giving mountpoints or sharing /home with the FC5T3 installation? > > No, this PC has only FC3 on it (with /, swap and /home on separate partitions) > which I was trying to have anaconda upgrade to FC5T3, at which point that > would be all that's on it. That eliminates the problem I suspected. Do you think that maybe the process is just trying to update items which do not exist? I am referring to the downscaling and also program relocation from core to Extras and complete elimination of some programs from the distro. Also, I had trouble on my rawhide installation for items which depended upon hotplug. This program is being removed but scanners, media players and the like have programs which require hotplug on earlier installs. I used yum remove hotplug and allowed several programs to uninstall, I then reinstalled the scanner software. What happens if you remove hotplug, keep track of desired programs for reinstallation after hotplug is removed? > > Regards, Willem Riede. > > I'm happy to report that this problem no longer exists in FC5T3, however, this PC now reproducibly locks up hard after several mintus of "Starting Install Process". Nothing on screen to indicate what happened. The old FC3 stll boots. Anaconda had created install.log and install.log.syslog, but both files are empty. > > Regards, Willem Riede. It seems that the kernel is allowing AGP. My Intel 815 card worked fine on proceeding with the upgrade. I upgraded an FC5T1 to FC5T3 for test successfully. (on 7 GIG partition with the default selection) Anyway, the kernel and video seem alright. Intel probably is not the cause. I did however have the need to upgrade BIOS and set video related settings up for another computer with an Intel 865G video which is a Dell computer. I take it your legacy video setting is already adjusted in BIOS Jim. From n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 20:44:39 2006 From: n0dalus+redhat at gmail.com (n0dalus) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:14:39 +1030 Subject: cd image sizes? In-Reply-To: <43FB460E.2040304@BitWagon.com> References: <20060221043459.GA3366@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1140504974.17286.78.camel@ender> <1140532638.25068.71.camel@eagle.lab.net> <20060221144540.GA1107744@hiwaay.net> <1140534826.3421.10.camel@perun.redhat.usu> <43FB460E.2040304@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <6280325c0602221244n43bead1bu566ce23ed81465af@mail.gmail.com> On 2/22/06, John Reiser wrote: > > To buy them new today, of course. But could it be that 650MB CD-RW > outnumber 700MB CD-RW because the smaller ones have been on the market > longer? With reasonable care they last for 800 to 1000 writings, > which is 2.5 to 3 years at once per day. > While testers may commonly use RWs, I think most people will be using CD-Rs when the final release comes out anyway. n0dalus. From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Wed Feb 22 21:15:45 2006 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:15:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Issus after todays updates 20060222 Message-ID: <20060222211545.54945.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> After todays updates (22/02/06) the gnome-power-manager icon has dissapeared and no mater how I configure the unused network interface on both of my machines in test mode I now get a popup saying that the network connection has been disconnected (presumably for the one not connected) as the expected connection is actually working. I presume the network connection popup is due to with the libnotify addition in the excerpt from todays update of NetworkManager. NetworkManager-0.5.1-13.cvs20060221 ----------------------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Dan Williams 0.5.1-13.cvs20060221 - Add BuildRequires: libnl-devel (#rh179438#) - Fix libnm_glib to not clobber an application's existing dbus connection (#rh177546#, gnome.org #326572) - libnotify support - AP compatibility fixes I will check for bug reports on both issues before reporting if necessary. From alan at clueserver.org Wed Feb 22 21:30:26 2006 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:30:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Could not allocate error on boot Message-ID: I am running FC5t3 x86_64 with Xen. I get an error on various daemons when booting that reads "Could not allocate 8 bytes percpu data". Also, the ethernet card works for about 15-20 minutes before becoming totally unresponsive. Are these known issues or should I track them down further? -- "George W. Bush -- Bringing back the Sixties one Nixon at a time." From cnegus at rucls.net Wed Feb 22 22:04:36 2006 From: cnegus at rucls.net (Chris Negus) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:04:36 -0600 Subject: Disk space requirements In-Reply-To: <200602221939.k1MJdo125580@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> References: <200602221939.k1MJdo125580@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140645876.10135.224.camel@einstein> Are there guidelines anywhere for how much disk space each install type requires for FC5 T3. The release notes shows the old install type names and there is no indication of package sizes when you select Customize Now. If I were only to select Office and Productivity, Software Development or Web Server would those requirements align with Personal Desktop, Workstation and Server? Is there such a thing as a Xen-only install (if so, what would you do with it)? -- Chris Negus From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Wed Feb 22 22:06:26 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:06:26 +1100 Subject: FC5T3 x86-64 terse install report (with one install bug?) In-Reply-To: <20060222170308.38091.qmail@web34012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060222170308.38091.qmail@web34012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43FCE062.1060802@bigpond.net.au> Josh wrote: >> I will be installing FC5T3 on a few more systems and laptops next >> week :) > if installing on hundreds of machines i would be using dhcp, and i > would be using kickstart to automate the installs > > I would have considered this if all systems were on the same network, > at the same location and upgraded at the same time. Upgrading at the same time shouldn't be a problem with kickstart; you have to get the machine to boot the installer (from ftp/cd/disk/etc), which only happens when you cause it (I are ready to install). I believe the kickstart file can be on a floppy disk or some network location (ftp,http). So if your scattered sites have internet access, you could have them kickstart'ing from a hidden ks.cfg on your own web site. This would get around messing with floppy discs etc. One of the kickstart options is whether or not to perform interactive install; interactive means dialogs will be filled in with you cfg settings, but you still need to click the next button. This means you can still customize eg partitioning to not overwrite existing. I found that separating the user data (/home) helps because you can install without re-formating that drive (backing up the important data/etc/configs first). All this with a warning: unless you are really sure that you want the installer to partition and format the disks automatically (wiping any info held within), make doubly sure that the partitioning bits are commented out of the ks.cfg file. DaveT. From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Wed Feb 22 22:13:10 2006 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:13:10 +0100 Subject: ppc32 kernel/zaptel missing symbol & turn off -fstack-protector In-Reply-To: <1140636338.2979.61.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1140635336.17450.9.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1140636338.2979.61.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <1140646390.17450.14.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 20:25 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > One of the developers of Asterisk told me it is cause by > > -fstack-protector. This indeed shows up during the compilation of the > > zaptel kernel modules. > > > > A sugesstion was to turn off -fstack-protector. Anyone have a hint how I > > do that in e.g. the rpm spec file? > > > if this rpm is using RPM cflags to build kernel modules it's terminally > broken..... kernel modules HAVE to use the EXACT flags the kernel > provides, but that is fully automatic if you have a "correct" 2.6 module > makefile (see Documentation/kbuild/ for details) Thanks for the input. I may be a bit in over my head since I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Fwiw compilation of the zaptel modules works fine on FC4. Afaict the flags used in the zaptel Makefile are: CFLAGS+=-I. $(RPM_OPT_FLAGS) -Wall -DBUILDING_TONEZONE LCFLAGS=-fPIC $(CFLAGS) -DBUILDING_TONEZONE KFLAGS=-I$(KINCLUDES) -O6 KFLAGS+=-DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -I$(KSRC)/drivers/net \ -Wall -I. -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -I $(KSRC)/drivers/net/wan -I$(KINCLUDES)/net ifneq (,$(wildcard $(KINCLUDES)/linux/modversions.h)) KFLAGS+=-DMODVERSIONS -include $(KINCLUDES)/linux/modversions.h endif KFLAGS_PPC:=$(shell if uname -m | grep -q ppc; then echo "-msoft-float -fsigned-char"; fi) KFLAGS+=$(KFLAGS_PPC) KFLAGS+=$(shell if uname -r | grep -q 2.4; then if uname -m | grep -q x86_64; then echo "-mcmodel=kernel"; fi; fi) Is there anything in here that needs fixing or would the solution be something way more elaborate? Thanks and regards, Patrick From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 22 22:20:40 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:50:40 +0530 Subject: A thought - new testing bugs posted here... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43FCE3B8.4090809@fedoraproject.org> Orion Poplawski wrote: > Perhaps we could get *new* bugs filed for fc#test# posted to this list? > I think it would generally be useful if all the bugs and comments filed in bugzilla including status changes is posted to a separate fedora-bugs-list akin to fedora cvs commits list. -- Rahul From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Wed Feb 22 22:21:41 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:21:41 -0500 Subject: Issus after todays updates 20060222 In-Reply-To: <20060222211545.54945.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20060222211545.54945.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43FCE3F5.9020406@insight.rr.com> DAVID BENTLEY wrote: > After todays updates (22/02/06) the > gnome-power-manager icon has > dissapeared and no mater how I configure the unused > network interface on > both of my machines in test mode I now get a popup > saying that the network > connection has been disconnected (presumably for the > one not connected) > as the expected connection is actually working. > > I presume the network connection popup is due to with > the libnotify > addition in the excerpt from todays update of > NetworkManager. > > NetworkManager-0.5.1-13.cvs20060221 > ----------------------------------- > * Tue Feb 21 2006 Dan Williams > 0.5.1-13.cvs20060221 > - Add BuildRequires: libnl-devel (#rh179438#) > - Fix libnm_glib to not clobber an application's > existing dbus connection > (#rh177546#, gnome.org #326572) > - libnotify support > - AP compatibility fixes > > I will check for bug reports on both issues before > reporting if necessary. > I am seeing the "balloon" pop up also stating no network on a fresh install on a Dell Desktop. ifconfig shows normal network connection. I did not have the problem before applying the updates for today. Regarding the gnome-power-manager ICON. I am seeing a plug on a desktop. Also, just to mention that the Suspend choice on the menu is a little bit dangerous. I accidentally selected the Suspend choice. Suspend does not work on the Dell desktop model computer either. (usb related error, I believe.) Jim From stanfinley at comcast.net Wed Feb 22 22:28:40 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:28:40 -0700 Subject: Issus after todays updates 20060222 In-Reply-To: <43FCE3F5.9020406@insight.rr.com> References: <20060222211545.54945.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FCE3F5.9020406@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1140647320.3804.2.camel@stantonfinley.org> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 17:21 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > I am seeing the "balloon" pop up also stating no network on a fresh > install on a Dell Desktop. ifconfig shows normal network connection. > > I did not have the problem before applying the updates for today. > Jim > I can confirm this. Same problem here on a HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook. Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From mhuhtala at abo.fi Wed Feb 22 23:08:51 2006 From: mhuhtala at abo.fi (mhuhtala at abo.fi) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:08:51 +0200 Subject: Metacity and terminals Message-ID: <1140649731.43fcef0380915@webmail1.abo.fi> Marcin Grabda wrote: >Ron Yorston wrote: >> I'd really, really, really like to see this experimental patch reverted. > >I agree. It's really irritating. I'll second. This misfeature is evil evil evil. I start programs more often from the command line than from the panel, and this makes GNOME feel like a badly designed web app from 1998. Mikko From netwiz at crc.id.au Wed Feb 22 23:10:26 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:10:26 +1100 Subject: No DVB support in newer kernels? In-Reply-To: <1140633064.43fcade8d400d@www.usherbrooke.ca> References: <38737.203.56.246.92.1140620596.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <43FC9294.9090609@yahoo.de> <1140633064.43fcade8d400d@www.usherbrooke.ca> Message-ID: On 23/02/2006, at 5:31 AM, Stephane Gaucher wrote: >>> Has there been a decision to not include DVB support in the newer >>> kernels? >>> >>> I've got 2.6.15-1.1939_FC5 running, and there seems to be no DVB >>> modules >>> available at all. >>> >>> >> I think i have DVB support my Airstar 2 DVB-T card works out of >> the box. >> Perhaps you must load the modules manually. > > I have actually the same probleme. But I direct my solution to a re- > compilation > of a new kernel (with the support activated). > > I got a probleme with the new kernel: > > Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS... > > Any idea !?! What kernel arch are you running? -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 From ml2news at free.fr Wed Feb 22 21:53:13 2006 From: ml2news at free.fr (Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer) Date: 22 Feb 2006 22:53:13 +0100 Subject: No DVB support in newer kernels? In-Reply-To: <1140633064.43fcade8d400d@www.usherbrooke.ca> References: <38737.203.56.246.92.1140620596.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <1140633064.43fcade8d400d@www.usherbrooke.ca> Message-ID: Stephane.Gaucher at USherbrooke.ca (Stephane Gaucher) writes: > [...] > I got a probleme with the new kernel: > > Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS... > > Any idea !?! Yeah check you have compiled in the right file system, that you built an initrd image to go along your kernel, that you're passing the right "root=" option (check your grub config file). -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer "Le disparu, si l'on v?n?re sa m?moire, est plus pr?sent et plus puissant que le vivant". -- Antoine de Saint-Exup?ry, Citadelle -- From jkeating at redhat.com Wed Feb 22 23:48:26 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:48:26 -0800 Subject: Testing Request Message-ID: <1140652106.13287.27.camel@ender> Seems that when upgrading from FC3 to FC4, cups-lpd dissapeared. I'd like to make sure this doesn't happen for FC4 to FC5 or FC3 to FC5. Can one of you do an install of FC4 that includes cups-lpd, and attempt to use anaconda to upgrade to FC5Test3 (or current rawhide) and see if cups-lpd continues to exist? Please comment in: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=164100 NOTE: Do not comment about other upgrade problems, just specifically cups-lpd. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mharris at redhat.com Thu Feb 23 01:07:12 2006 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:07:12 -0500 Subject: Attention: Proprietary video driver users (ATI, Nvidia, etc.) Message-ID: <43FD0AC0.2090702@redhat.com> There have been a number of bugs reported in Red Hat bugzilla against X which have recently been tracked down to 3rd party video drivers being the culprit behind the problem the user was experienced. In many of the cases however, it wasn't obvious that the 3rd party drivers were at fault because the user was actually using the Red Hat supplied drivers, and not using the 3rd party driver that they had previously installed. Since I've wasted at least 6-8 hours in the last month diagnosing issues of this nature which have later turned out to be caused by proprietary drivers having been "installed" on the system, wether they were actually being *used* or not, I thought I should write a short useful informational email on the topic to the lists to try and inform people of some pitfalls you may encounter if you even _install_ 3rd party video drivers. Both ATI and Nvidia, and perhaps even other 3rd party drivers out there come in some form of tarball or equivalent form from the particular vendor. Most users seem to favour the hardware vendor supplied drivers directly, rather than using more sanely packaged 3rd party packages that contain the same drivers. This is very unfortunate, because installing these 3rd party tarball driver installations is very harmful to your clean OS installation. Both ATI and Nvidia's proprietary video driver installation utilities replace the Red Hat supplied libGL library with their own libGL. Nvidia's driver installs a replacement libglx.a X server module, removing the Red Hat supplied X.Org module in the process. ATI's driver may or may not replace libglx.a with it's own, I haven't checked (but if someone could confirm that, I'd appreciate knowing for certain). Once you have either of these drivers installed on your system, you can no longer use DRI with any video card. So if you install the ATI fglrx driver, while you should still be able in theory at least to use the Red Hat supplied radeon driver, you may no longer be able to use DRI with the radeon driver, because ATI's driver has blown away critical files that come with the OS that are needed for proper operation. If you install Nvidia's driver, and later decide to install an ATI card, and still have Nvidia's driver installed, bang - you will not be able to get Red Hat supplied DRI 3D acceleration to work. You must remove Nvidia's driver completely from your hard disk, and completely reinstall all of the xorg-x11 and mesa packages, and ensure they are all intact by using: rpm -Va Another problem being reported by a few people, is they are unable to get DRI to work because mesa libGL is looking for the DRI drivers in the wrong directory. The claim is that mesa is looking for the DRI drivers in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules. On a fresh OS install however, my findings are that mesa's libGL very much is not looking in /usr/X11R6 for it's modules. It is looking in the proper location of /usr/lib/dri for the modules. Why then is it looking in the wrong place on some systems? Answer: Because of fglrx having been installed. If you have had a previous OS release installed, and have installed ATI's fglrx driver from tarball, it has removed the OS supplied libGL et al and made backup copies of them aparently. Now you do an OS upgrade which works properly and installs everything in the right place. Then you uninstall ATI's fglrx with whatever script or whatever they supply, and now you try to run X, and get no DRI! Well, since you don't have fglrx installed at all, it must be our OS at fault right! Wrong. the uninstall script has put the OLD libGL it backed up (from FC4 or whatever) back in the system, overwriting the new FC5 supplied libGL in the process, and since ATI's fglrx driver is DRI based as well, it looks for the DRI modules in the wrong place now. Conclusions: If you are going to use any 3rd party proprietary drivers, please do yourself and everyone else a huge favour, and at least get your drivers from reputable 3rd party rpm package repositories such as livna.org which packages both the nvidia and ati proprietary drivers in rpm packages which install the drivers sanely without overwriting Red Hat/Fedora supplied files. These 3rd party packages install the files in alternative locations, and configure the X server et al. appropriately so that everything works. Since they do not blow away OS supplied files, you can use the OS supplied drivers still by reconfiguring xorg.conf. Also, if you decide to uninstall the 3rd party drivers via rpm, they just go away and cause no further harm to the system. So PLEASE USE THIRD PARTY RPM PACKAGES if you _must_ use 3rd party drivers. It helps create world peace. If you choose to install ATI or Nvidia tarball/whatever drivers directly from ATI/Nvidia (or any other vendor for that matter), your system is 100% completely and totally unsupported. Even if you are using _our_ drivers, your 3rd party driver installation may have blown away our libGL, our libglx.a or any other files that have been supplied by our OS. As such, your system is not supported. For those who encounter a bug of any kind whatsoever while using 3rd party video drivers, completely remove the 3rd party drivers from your system, and then perform a full "yum update" to ensure you have the latest Fedora Core supplied X packages installed. After doing this, do an "rpm -Va" of your whole system, in particular the xorg-x11-*, mesa-* and lib* packages. If there are any discrepancies found in any of the Fedora supplied packages, in particular in libGL, or the X server packages, remove them and reinstall them and reverify that the files installed on your system are the ones shipped by Fedora. If you are able to reproduce the problem you are having after having performed these steps, and having ensured that you are neither using 3rd party drivers, nor even have them installed, then feel free to file a bug report in bugzilla. By doing this small amount of pre-diagnosis of your own system if you are using 3rd party drivers, you will save yourself a lot of headaches, and will save other people, including developers such as myself from wasting endless hours trying to diagnose problems which turn out to be bogus. Hours which could have been spent fixing legitimate bugs that are present in bugzilla. As an additional note - if anyone is using proprietary drivers and has any problems which they believe might actually be a bug in Xorg and not in their proprietary driver - file such bugs directly in X.Org bugzilla. X.Org has an nVidia (closed) component specifically for the proprietary driver, and Nvidia engineers get those bugs and will investigate them over time. Anyhow, I hope this helps people understand at least some of the problems that can occur when you opt to using 3rd party drivers, present some alternatives, and to help people diagnose their own problems which might be caused by having installed 3rd party drivers. Thanks for reading. TTYL P.S. Feel free to forward this email on to any other lists or people whom you think might benefit from it. Also, if anyone thinks this information would be useful to have on the Fedora Wiki or somewhere else, feel free to copy my email into a wiki page, or paraphrase, etc. -- Mike A. Harris, Systems Engineer, X11 Development team, Red Hat Canada, Ltd. From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 02:55:49 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:55:49 -0500 Subject: Attention: Proprietary video driver users (ATI, Nvidia, etc.) References: <43FD0AC0.2090702@redhat.com> Message-ID: Speaking of DRI, I have an ATI 200M. Using clean install of xorg driver, I see this: (WW) RADEON(0): Enabling DRM support [...] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) [ repeat 255 times ...] (II) RADEON(0): [drm] drmOpen failed (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. I think I mentioned this here before, and IIRC someone else said they have exactly the same result. Is this expected behavior? /sbin/lsmod Module Size Used by radeon 141665 0 drm 117481 1 radeon drm is loaded, but there are no /dev/dri/ From desau at sodapopboy.com Thu Feb 23 05:27:56 2006 From: desau at sodapopboy.com (Darrell Esau) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:27:56 -0800 Subject: Proprietary nvidia driver + 7800 GT PCI express Message-ID: <43FD47DC.2000304@sodapopboy.com> Hello all, Using the 1975 smp kernel on FC5T3 with the proprietary nvidia driver (installed using the instructions here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00726.html ) The nvidia module compiles and installs fine, however when X starts, it runs for a bit, then the screen becomes garbled. A few seconds later the machine locks up. Has anyone else seen this? -d From michal at harddata.com Thu Feb 23 05:28:01 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:28:01 -0700 Subject: Attention: Proprietary video driver users (ATI, Nvidia, etc.) In-Reply-To: References: <43FD0AC0.2090702@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060223052801.GA3143@mail.harddata.com> On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 09:55:49PM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > Speaking of DRI, I have an ATI 200M. Using clean install of xorg driver, I > see this: > > (WW) RADEON(0): Enabling DRM support > > (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. This happens to work for me, with r300 Radeon card, provided I have Option "AGPMode" "8" line in a "Device" section of xorg.conf. Otherwise it fails (or at least it did the last time I tried with this line commented out). You also need mesa-libGL and mesa-libGLU packages installed. Results of a failure are more severe in my case than just DRI disabled. Namely a blank screen and a computer which has to be rebooted by a remote access. Other values that 8 are also bad. Michal From petersen at redhat.com Thu Feb 23 06:19:30 2006 From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:19:30 +0900 Subject: xemacs performance unacceptable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43FD53F2.8010607@redhat.com> Neal Becker wrote: > With most recent rawhide updates, performance of editing using xemacs is > unacceptably slow, because with each character insert, X keeps flashing the > "busy" pointer. Works ok for me with fc5test3. Can you explain in more detail what is happening or how to reproduce. Jens From buildsys at redhat.com Thu Feb 23 08:21:39 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:21:39 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060223 changes Message-ID: <200602230821.k1N8LdZX004612@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> New package jakarta-commons-daemon Jakarta Commons Daemon Package Updated Packages: anaconda-10.92.8-1 ------------------ * Wed Feb 22 2006 David Cantrell 10.92.8-1 - Removed obsolete bogl code (katzj) - Removed unused code in upgrade.py (pnasrat) - Check version and packages to upgrade (pnasrat) - Removed old IDE RAID code from isys (katzj) - Various traceback fixes - Don't use underline in device names for hotkeys in bootloader gui (pjones) - Mount /selinux in rescue mode (katzj) aspell-12:0.60.3-4 ------------------ * Tue Feb 21 2006 Ivana Varekova - 12:0.60.3-4 - fix multilib file conflict * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 12:0.60.3-3.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 12:0.60.3-3.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes at-spi-1.7.5-1 -------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.7.5-1 - Update to 1.7.5 cpuspeed-1:1.2.1-1.32 --------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Dave Jones - Missed another occurance of the same problem I fixed yesterday. * Mon Feb 20 2006 Dave Jones - Some ACPI BIOSes start counting CPUs at 0, some at 1. *sigh* (#181673) e2fsprogs-1.38-8 ---------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Peter Jones - 1.36-8 - handle selinux context on blkid.tab * Mon Feb 20 2006 Karsten Hopp 1.38-7 - BuildRequires: gettext-devel eog-2.13.91-2 ------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-2 - silence excessive debug output f-spot-0.1.9-2 -------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Karsten Hopp 0.1.9-2 - add BuildRequires libgnome-devel libgnomeui-devel gtk2-devel mono-devel libjpeg-devel sqlite-devel * Fri Feb 17 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.1.9-1 - Update to 0.1.9 gail-1.8.10-1 ------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.8.10-1 - Update to 1.8.10 gdb-6.3.0.0-1.106 ----------------- * Tue Feb 14 2006 Alexandre Oliva - 6.3.0.0-1.106 - Bump up release number. * Tue Feb 14 2006 Alexandre Oliva - 6.3.0.0-1.103 - Adjust type-punning patch to include fix not needed upstream. * Tue Feb 14 2006 Alexandre Oliva - 6.3.0.0-1.102 - Bump up release number. gdm-1:2.13.0.8-4 ---------------- * Sun Feb 19 2006 Ray Strode - 1:2.13.0.8-3 - add server entry for accel-indirect branch of xorg * Wed Feb 15 2006 Ray and Matthias - 1:2.13.0.8-2 - malloc memory that is later freed gnome-applets-1:2.13.4-3 ------------------------ * Sat Feb 18 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.4-3 - Remove a warning from the stock ticker applet gnome-power-manager-2.13.91-1 ----------------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 - Drop upstreamed patch groff-1.18.1.1-10 ----------------- * Thu Feb 16 2006 Miroslav Lichvar - 1.18.1.1-10 - use mktemp for temporary files in pic2graph and eqn2graph scripts hal-0.5.7-0.cvs20060213.2 ------------------------- * Thu Feb 16 2006 Matthias Clasen - 0.5.7-0.cvs20060213.2 - fix directory ownership - don't ship static libraries * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.5.7-0.cvs20060213.1.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump hwdata-0.176-1 -------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Phil Knirsch - 0.176-1 - More entries from Dell to MonitorsDB (#181008) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Phil Knirsch - 0.175-1 - Added a few more entries to MonitorsDB jakarta-commons-digester-0:1.7-2jpp_9fc --------------------------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Rafael Schloming - 0:1.7-2jpp_9fc - Updated to version 1.7. jakarta-commons-validator-0:1.1.4-1jpp_5fc ------------------------------------------ * Tue Feb 21 2006 Rafael Schloming - 0:1.1.4-1jpp_5fc - Updated to 1.1.4 and aot compiled. kdemultimedia-6:3.5.1-2 ----------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Than Ngo 6:3.5.1-2 - add missing protocol audiocd #176637 - remove useless rpm macro #180009 - add requires on alsa-lib-devel #178734 kexec-tools-1.101-9 ------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Thomas Graf - 1.101-9 - Remove wrong quotes around --command-line in kdump.init * Fri Feb 17 2006 Jeff Moyer - 1.101-8 - Fix the service stop case. It was previously unloading the wrong kernel. - Implement the "restart" function. - Add the "irqpoll" option as a default kdump kernel commandline parameter. - Create a default kernel command line in the sysconfig file upon rpm install. kudzu-1.2.32-1 -------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Bill Nottingham - 1.2.32-1 - fix potential segfault with USB network devices (#182006) logwatch-7.1-8 -------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Ivana Varekova 7.1-8 - fix http exploit problem #181802 lsof-4.76-2 ----------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Karel Zak 4.76-2 - fix #175568 - lsof prints 'unknown inode type' for epoll mesa-6.4.2-4 ------------ * Wed Feb 22 2006 Adam Jackson 6.4.2-4 - rebuilt mkinitrd-5.0.27-1 ----------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Peter Jones - 5.0.27-1 - Fix multiboot argument quoting in new-kernel-package (#182243) - Fix "netlink" fd error in hotplug initialization. - Fix directory creation in smartmknod() - Fix find command when it's not run alone (#181874, patch from Mark McLoughlin) - Don't use 0-length uuids - Update /dev/mapper nodes more often - Allow dm partadd not to include the /dev/mapper path - Use /etc/fstab, not /fstab, so if you've got /sbin/mount it'll work - Bring in sd_mod if libata or scsi_mod is selected (#181983) - use -Wl,--wrap,open and __wrap_open() instead of coeOpen() parted-1.6.25-7 --------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Peter Jones - 1.6.25-7 - close /proc/devices correctly pirut-0.9.15-1 -------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Jeremy Katz - 0.9.15-1 - actually find the images * Wed Feb 22 2006 Jeremy Katz - 0.9.14-1 - fix traceback on right click (#182360) - add hal and dbus to pup's reboot list - new images from dfong - allow stopping the search, requires yum 2.5.3 psacct-6.3.2-39 --------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Ivana Varekova - 6.3.2-39 - add Large File Support python-pyblock-0.15-1 --------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Peter Jones - 0.15-1 - Fix use of devices in /tmp to avoid duplicates. (fixes console spew during install) python-urlgrabber-2.9.8-1 ------------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Jeremy Katz - 2.9.8-1 - update to new version fixing progress bars in yum on regets redhat-artwork-0.240-1 ---------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Matthias Clasen - 0.240-1 - Include Serbian translations rhgb-0.16.3-1 ------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Matthias Clasen - 0.16.3-1 - don't include the (old, unused) Fedora logo rhpxl-0.17-1 ------------ * Wed Feb 22 2006 Jeremy Katz - 0.17-1 - fix braindead i810 (#182300) * Wed Feb 22 2006 Chris Lumens 0.16-1 - Only put one non-vesa card in front of the list (#182016). - Provide a fixed list of supported resolutions for the SGI 1600SW (#115679). sane-backends-1.0.17-4 ---------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Nils Philippsen - 1.0.17-4 - split off generated documentation into separate subpackage to avoid conflicts on multilib systems selinux-policy-2.2.20-1 ----------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.20-1 - Fix load_policy to work on MLS - Fix cron_rw_system_pipes for postfix_postdrop_t - Allow audotmount to run showmount sendmail-8.13.5-3 ----------------- * Fri Feb 17 2006 Thomas Woerner 8.13.5-3 - fixed selinuxenabled path in initscript - fixed error handling with sigwait (#137709) Thanks to Jonathan Kamens for the patch - fixed prereq for cyrus-sasl: now using /usr/sbin/saslauthd - appended 'dnl' to cert tags in sendmail.mc struts-0:1.2.8-2jpp_8fc ----------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Rafael Schloming - 0:1.2.8-2jpp_8fc - Updated to 1.2.8 tomboy-0.3.5-3 -------------- * Fri Feb 17 2006 Christopher Aillon - 0.3.5-3 - Don't run tomboy in the current working directory tzdata-2006b-1 -------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Petr Machata 2006b-1 - Upstream 2006b: - using tz64code version, as 32 is legacy according to tzdata ML - new manual pages for ctime, strftime, tzset - some source code reorganizations - no timezone/dst rule updates udev-084-4 ---------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Harald Hoyer - 084-4 - fixed group issue with vol_id (bz #181432) - fixed dvb permissions (bz #179993) - added support for scsi media changer (bz #181911) - fixed pktcdvd device creation (bz #161268) * Tue Feb 21 2006 Florian La Roche - 084-3 - also output the additional space char as part of the startup message vim-1:6.4.007-2 --------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Karsten Hopp 6.4.007-2 - gtk-update-icon-cache --ignore-theme-index (avoids %post failures when hicolor-icon-theme isn't installed) vixie-cron-4:4.1-54.FC5 ----------------------- * Wed Feb 15 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 4:4.1-54.FC5 - fix bug 181702: Requires:audit-libs, not Requires:audit xerces-j2-0:2.7.1-6jpp_6fc -------------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Rafael Schloming - 0:2.7.1-6jpp_6fc - Updated to 2.7.1 xml-commons-0:1.3.02-0.b2.7jpp_6fc ---------------------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Rafael Schloming - 0:1.3.02-0.b2.7jpp_6fc - Updated to 1.3 xorg-x11-drv-glint-1.0.1.3-2 ---------------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1.3-2 - Install glint.xinf, which was inadvertently left out of packaging (#182502) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating 1.0.1.3-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1.3-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-glint to version 1.0.1.3 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-i740-1.0.0.5-2 --------------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-2 - Install i740.xinf, which was inadvertently left out of packaging (#182503) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating 1.0.0.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.0.5-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-i740 to version 1.0.0.5 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-drv-s3-0.3.5.5-2 ------------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Mike A. Harris 0.3.5.5-2 - Install s3.xinf, which was inadvertently left out of packaging (#182505) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating 0.3.5.5-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating 0.3.5.5-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-via-0.1.33.2-2 --------------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Mike A. Harris 0.1.33.2-2 - Install via.xinf, which was inadvertently left out of packaging (#182506) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating 0.1.33.2-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes * Wed Jan 18 2006 Mike A. Harris 0.1.33.2-1 - Updated xorg-x11-drv-via to version 0.1.33.2 from X11R7.0 xorg-x11-font-utils-1:1.0.1-3 ----------------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Mike A. Harris 1:1.0.1-3 - Remove "Obsoletes: xorg-x11-font-utils" as the package should not obsolete itself. Leftover from the original package template it seems. (#182439) xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.0-5 -------------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Jeremy Katz - 7.0-5 - require mesa-libGL-devel since it's needed by some of the headers xorg-x11-server-1.0.1-7 ----------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Jeremy Katz - 1.0.1-7 - install randrstr.h as part of sdk as required for building some drivers * Tue Feb 21 2006 Mike A. Harris - Added xorg-server-1.0.1-backtrace.patch which enables the Xorg server's built in backtrace support by default, as it was inadvertently disabled in 7.0. * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating 1.0.1-6.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) xterm-209-2 ----------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Jason Vas Dias - 209-2 - fix bug 182382: check for (VWindow(screen)!=0) in set_cursor_gcs - further fix for bug 178302: allow *vt100*cursorColor to be same as fg yum-2.5.3-1 ----------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Jeremy Katz - 2.5.3-1 - Update to 2.5.3 with fixes for lots of stuff (and all of our patches applied) (#177528, #177737, #179512, others) Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp cman-kernel - 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1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.i386 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.i386 requires tomcat4 Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ia64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ia64 requires tomcat4 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc requires tomcat4 Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc64 requires tomcat4 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390 requires tomcat4 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390x requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390x requires tomcat4 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.x86_64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.x86_64 requires tomcat4 From ivg2 at cornell.edu Thu Feb 23 08:26:22 2006 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:26:22 -0500 Subject: Proprietary nvidia driver + 7800 GT PCI express In-Reply-To: <43FD47DC.2000304@sodapopboy.com> References: <43FD47DC.2000304@sodapopboy.com> Message-ID: <43FD71AE.5060502@cornell.edu> Darrell Esau wrote: > Hello all, > > Using the 1975 smp kernel on FC5T3 with the proprietary nvidia driver > (installed using the instructions here: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00726.html > ) > > The nvidia module compiles and installs fine, however when X starts, > it runs for a bit, then the screen becomes garbled. A few seconds > later the machine locks up. > > Has anyone else seen this? Make sure you have an up to date livna srpm, containing the latest Nvidia patch. There's a number of issues which were fixed. From ivg2 at cornell.edu Thu Feb 23 08:58:26 2006 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:58:26 -0500 Subject: Attention: Proprietary video driver users (ATI, Nvidia, etc.) In-Reply-To: <43FD0AC0.2090702@redhat.com> References: <43FD0AC0.2090702@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43FD7932.7050806@cornell.edu> Speaking of proprietary drivers... /usr/sbin/prelink: Could not prelink /usr/lib64/libgtkglext-x11-1.0.so.0 because it doesn't use /usr/lib64/nvidia/libGL.so.1, but one of its dependencies has been prelinked against it Which dependency is that? Why can't the error message just tell me. From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Thu Feb 23 09:39:54 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:39:54 +0100 Subject: Proprietary nvidia driver + 7800 GT PCI express In-Reply-To: <43FD47DC.2000304@sodapopboy.com> References: <43FD47DC.2000304@sodapopboy.com> Message-ID: <1140687594.4672.13.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 21:27 -0800, Darrell Esau wrote: > Hello all, > > Using the 1975 smp kernel on FC5T3 with the proprietary nvidia driver > (installed using the instructions here: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00726.html > ) > > The nvidia module compiles and installs fine, however when X starts, it > runs for a bit, then the screen becomes garbled. A few seconds later > the machine locks up. did you look at the nvidia forums? (that's usually a better place to discuss their driver anyway) From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Thu Feb 23 09:41:57 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:41:57 +0100 Subject: ppc32 kernel/zaptel missing symbol & turn off -fstack-protector In-Reply-To: <1140646390.17450.14.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1140635336.17450.9.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1140636338.2979.61.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1140646390.17450.14.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1140687717.4672.16.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 23:13 +0100, Patrick wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 20:25 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > One of the developers of Asterisk told me it is cause by > > > -fstack-protector. This indeed shows up during the compilation of the > > > zaptel kernel modules. > > > > > > A sugesstion was to turn off -fstack-protector. Anyone have a hint how I > > > do that in e.g. the rpm spec file? > > > > > > if this rpm is using RPM cflags to build kernel modules it's terminally > > broken..... kernel modules HAVE to use the EXACT flags the kernel > > provides, but that is fully automatic if you have a "correct" 2.6 module > > makefile (see Documentation/kbuild/ for details) > > Thanks for the input. I may be a bit in over my head since I'm not > exactly sure what you mean. Fwiw compilation of the zaptel modules works > fine on FC4. Afaict the flags used in the zaptel Makefile are: > > CFLAGS+=-I. $(RPM_OPT_FLAGS) -Wall -DBUILDING_TONEZONE > LCFLAGS=-fPIC $(CFLAGS) -DBUILDING_TONEZONE > KFLAGS=-I$(KINCLUDES) -O6 > KFLAGS+=-DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -I$(KSRC)/drivers/net \ > -Wall -I. -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -I > $(KSRC)/drivers/net/wan -I$(KINCLUDES)/net > ifneq (,$(wildcard $(KINCLUDES)/linux/modversions.h)) > KFLAGS+=-DMODVERSIONS -include $(KINCLUDES)/linux/modversions.h > endif > KFLAGS_PPC:=$(shell if uname -m | grep -q ppc; then echo "-msoft-float > -fsigned-char"; fi) > KFLAGS+=$(KFLAGS_PPC) > KFLAGS+=$(shell if uname -r | grep -q 2.4; then if uname -m | grep -q > x86_64; then echo "-mcmodel=kernel"; fi; fi) > > Is there anything in here that needs fixing or would the solution be > something way more elaborate? yes this is horked beyond belief and will lead to major miscompiles (this will not generate correct modules even on x86, and is incorrect in so many ways it's just not funny anymore). just delete all of this; a kernel module makefile should be 1 or 2 lines or so, maybe another example: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-ia64&m=105676403229397&w=2 From fabio.comolli at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 11:26:25 2006 From: fabio.comolli at gmail.com (Fabio Comolli) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:26:25 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060223 changes In-Reply-To: <200602230821.k1N8LdZX004612@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602230821.k1N8LdZX004612@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Hi. On 2/23/06, Build System wrote: > > udev-084-4 > ---------- > * Wed Feb 22 2006 Harald Hoyer - 084-4 > - fixed group issue with vol_id (bz #181432) > - fixed dvb permissions (bz #179993) > - added support for scsi media changer (bz #181911) > - fixed pktcdvd device creation (bz #161268) > > * Tue Feb 21 2006 Florian La Roche - 084-3 > - also output the additional space char as part of the startup message > This update floods my console at boot with lots of error messages about "wait_for_sysfs" failed. In /var/log/messages I can only find: Feb 23 12:11:58 kepler udevd-event[2683]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for '/sys/class/drm/card0/bus' failed Feb 23 12:11:58 kepler udevd-event[2684]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for '/sys/class/drm/card1/bus' failed as i915 is the only module loaded after syslogd has started. For example, plugging my external USB disk triggers: Feb 23 12:22:56 kepler kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdb Feb 23 12:22:56 kepler kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 Feb 23 12:23:00 kepler udevd-event[3173]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for '/sys/class/scsi_generic/sg2/bus' failed Feb 23 12:23:00 kepler udevd-event[3171]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for '/sys/block/sdb/bus' failed Feb 23 12:23:00 kepler udevd-event[3172]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for '/sys/class/scsi_device/2:0:0:0/bus' failed Feb 23 12:23:03 kepler udevd-event[3192]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for '/sys/block/sdb/sdb1/bus' failed Feb 23 12:23:03 kepler udevd-event[3193]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for '/sys/block/sdb/sdb2/bus' failed and this breaks KDE automounting the disk. Should I open a bug? Regards, Fabio From fabio.comolli at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 11:40:54 2006 From: fabio.comolli at gmail.com (Fabio Comolli) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:40:54 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060223 changes In-Reply-To: References: <200602230821.k1N8LdZX004612@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Reverting to previous version udev-084-1.1 fixes that (messages disappear and kde works again). Fabio On 2/23/06, Fabio Comolli wrote: > Hi. > > On 2/23/06, Build System wrote: > > > > udev-084-4 > > ---------- > > * Wed Feb 22 2006 Harald Hoyer - 084-4 > > - fixed group issue with vol_id (bz #181432) > > - fixed dvb permissions (bz #179993) > > - added support for scsi media changer (bz #181911) > > - fixed pktcdvd device creation (bz #161268) > > > > * Tue Feb 21 2006 Florian La Roche - 084-3 > > - also output the additional space char as part of the startup message > > > > This update floods my console at boot with lots of error messages > about "wait_for_sysfs" failed. > > In /var/log/messages I can only find: > > Feb 23 12:11:58 kepler udevd-event[2683]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for > '/sys/class/drm/card0/bus' failed > Feb 23 12:11:58 kepler udevd-event[2684]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for > '/sys/class/drm/card1/bus' failed > > as i915 is the only module loaded after syslogd has started. > > For example, plugging my external USB disk triggers: > > Feb 23 12:22:56 kepler kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdb > Feb 23 12:22:56 kepler kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 > Feb 23 12:23:00 kepler udevd-event[3173]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for > '/sys/class/scsi_generic/sg2/bus' failed > Feb 23 12:23:00 kepler udevd-event[3171]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for > '/sys/block/sdb/bus' failed > Feb 23 12:23:00 kepler udevd-event[3172]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for > '/sys/class/scsi_device/2:0:0:0/bus' failed > Feb 23 12:23:03 kepler udevd-event[3192]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for > '/sys/block/sdb/sdb1/bus' failed > Feb 23 12:23:03 kepler udevd-event[3193]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for > '/sys/block/sdb/sdb2/bus' failed > > and this breaks KDE automounting the disk. > > Should I open a bug? > > Regards, > Fabio > From harald at redhat.com Thu Feb 23 12:06:25 2006 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:06:25 +0100 Subject: Burning CDs In-Reply-To: <1140606291.24450.23.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <1138380774.2807.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1139032365.2356.6.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FC4483.2020404@redhat.com> <1140606291.24450.23.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <43FDA541.7020304@redhat.com> David Nielsen wrote: > sounds like : > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179862 > > - David > definetly From lorenzofiorini at tiscali.it Thu Feb 23 12:10:33 2006 From: lorenzofiorini at tiscali.it (Lorenzo Fiorini) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:10:33 +0100 Subject: FC5T3 I can't find libX11.a and libXau.a in libX11-devel.i386 Message-ID: <43FDA639.4000609@tiscali.it> I'm trying to build my apps under FC5T3 ( my main env is FC4 ) but I can't find those static libraries. I have installed these: libX11-devel.i386 1.0.0-2.2 installed libX11.i386 1.0.0-2.2 installed Any suggestion? regards, Lorenzo Fiorini From tjikkun at xs4all.nl Thu Feb 23 12:21:40 2006 From: tjikkun at xs4all.nl (Sander Hoentjen) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:21:40 +0100 Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <13492.213.84.157.18.1140609233.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> References: <20060214093213.GY24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <28803.192.94.41.42.1139909799.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214093851.GZ24295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <32035.192.94.41.42.1139911941.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214170739.GN9720@neu.nirvana> <1140527906.8997.0.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <20060221133213.GA13387@neu.nirvana> <1140529191.8997.5.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <1140595277.8997.10.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <20060222105426.GI13387@neu.nirvana> <13492.213.84.157.18.1140609233.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1140697301.3607.11.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 12:53 +0100, tjikkun at xs4all.nl wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 09:01:16AM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > >> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 14:39 +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > >> > > >> > http://dl.atrpms.net/fc5-i386/atrpms/stable/ > >> > that is the location i have in my atrpm.repo > >> > I can see asterisk-1.2.4-18.rhfc4.92.at.i386.rpm but no zaptel > >> > whatsoever > >> > > >> Ok now there i zaptel and I installed it. > > > > Yes, I had forgotten to flag zaptel on FC5 as finished, so the build > > system would not grab it and place it into the public repo. > > > >> Next step: learn how to configure asterisk :) > > > > Have fun ... ;) > > -- > The fun starts with a segfault runing /usr/sbin/asterisk -d > If you have any pointers on how to troubleshoot this I would greatly > appreciate it. I am not at home at the moment so I probably won't be able > to try anything before tomorrow. > > Sander > # gdb --args /usr/sbin/asterisk -d GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.3.0.0-1.98.2rh) Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux-gnu"...(no debugging symbols found) Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1". (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/sbin/asterisk -d Reading symbols from shared object read from target memory...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded system supplied DSO at 0xdf4000 (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread -1208162640 (LWP 32098)] (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) [New Thread -1208165472 (LWP 32101)] [Thread -1208165472 (LWP 32101) exited] [New Thread -1208165472 (LWP 32102)] [New Thread -1208431712 (LWP 32103)] (no debugging symbols found) [New Thread -1208697952 (LWP 32104)] (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) [New Thread -1208964192 (LWP 32105)] [New Thread -1209230432 (LWP 32106)] (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) [New Thread -1209496672 (LWP 32107)] (no debugging symbols found) [New Thread -1209762912 (LWP 32108)] (no debugging symbols found) [New Thread -1210029152 (LWP 32109)] (no debugging symbols found) [New Thread -1210295392 (LWP 32110)] (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread -1208162640 (LWP 32098)] 0x080639f8 in ast_channel_unregister () (gdb) bt #0 0x080639f8 in ast_channel_unregister () #1 0x00a70e46 in key () from /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_phone.so #2 0x0805b5f5 in ast_unload_resource () #3 0x0805bfcd in ast_unload_resource () #4 0x0805c4ae in load_modules () #5 0x080aebe9 in main () Is this of any help? Should I file a bug, if so where? Am I doing something wrong maybe? From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Thu Feb 23 13:03:57 2006 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:03:57 +0100 Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <1140697301.3607.11.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> References: <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <32035.192.94.41.42.1139911941.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214170739.GN9720@neu.nirvana> <1140527906.8997.0.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <20060221133213.GA13387@neu.nirvana> <1140529191.8997.5.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <1140595277.8997.10.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <20060222105426.GI13387@neu.nirvana> <13492.213.84.157.18.1140609233.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <1140697301.3607.11.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20060223130357.GB20323@neu.nirvana> On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 01:21:40PM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 12:53 +0100, tjikkun at xs4all.nl wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 09:01:16AM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > > >> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 14:39 +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > > >> > > > >> > http://dl.atrpms.net/fc5-i386/atrpms/stable/ > > >> > that is the location i have in my atrpm.repo > > >> > I can see asterisk-1.2.4-18.rhfc4.92.at.i386.rpm but no zaptel > > >> > whatsoever > > >> > > > >> Ok now there i zaptel and I installed it. > > > > > > Yes, I had forgotten to flag zaptel on FC5 as finished, so the build > > > system would not grab it and place it into the public repo. > > > > > >> Next step: learn how to configure asterisk :) > > > > > > Have fun ... ;) > > The fun starts with a segfault runing /usr/sbin/asterisk -d > > If you have any pointers on how to troubleshoot this I would greatly > > appreciate it. I am not at home at the moment so I probably won't be able > > to try anything before tomorrow. > > > > Sander > > > # gdb --args /usr/sbin/asterisk -d > GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.3.0.0-1.98.2rh) > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you > are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain > conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for > details. > This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux-gnu"...(no debugging > symbols found) > Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1". > > (gdb) run > Starting program: /usr/sbin/asterisk -d > Reading symbols from shared object read from target memory...(no > debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded system supplied DSO at 0xdf4000 > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] > [New Thread -1208162640 (LWP 32098)] > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > [New Thread -1208165472 (LWP 32101)] > [Thread -1208165472 (LWP 32101) exited] > [New Thread -1208165472 (LWP 32102)] > [New Thread -1208431712 (LWP 32103)] > (no debugging symbols found) > [New Thread -1208697952 (LWP 32104)] > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > [New Thread -1208964192 (LWP 32105)] > [New Thread -1209230432 (LWP 32106)] > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > [New Thread -1209496672 (LWP 32107)] > (no debugging symbols found) > [New Thread -1209762912 (LWP 32108)] > (no debugging symbols found) > [New Thread -1210029152 (LWP 32109)] > (no debugging symbols found) > [New Thread -1210295392 (LWP 32110)] > (no debugging symbols found) > (no debugging symbols found) > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > [Switching to Thread -1208162640 (LWP 32098)] > 0x080639f8 in ast_channel_unregister () > (gdb) bt > #0 0x080639f8 in ast_channel_unregister () > #1 0x00a70e46 in key () from /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_phone.so > #2 0x0805b5f5 in ast_unload_resource () > #3 0x0805bfcd in ast_unload_resource () > #4 0x0805c4ae in load_modules () > #5 0x080aebe9 in main () > > Is this of any help? Should I file a bug, if so where? Am I doing > something wrong maybe? You can get the debuginfo packages from here: http://people.atrpms.net/~athimm/asterisk/ It would be important to know whether you can get asterisk running under FC4. Is it possible to have an FC4 install and use the FC4 asterisk rpms? This is known to work well, so if oyu hit something there it should be something local. If you get no issues under FC4, then maybe it's something like gcc 4.1 that asterisk doesn't like. In the latter case it would be a bug report for asterisk to make the code gcc 4.1 compatible. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lorenzofiorini at tiscali.it Thu Feb 23 14:09:50 2006 From: lorenzofiorini at tiscali.it (Lorenzo Fiorini) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:09:50 +0100 Subject: FC5T3 I can't find libX11.a and libXau.a in libX11-devel.i386 In-Reply-To: <200602230706.43066.dennis@ausil.us> References: <43FDA639.4000609@tiscali.it> <200602230706.43066.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <43FDC22E.9000802@tiscali.it> Dennis Gilmore wrote: >dynamically link your apps > Thanks. Do you think they are "temporarily" missed from the X11-devel package or am I looking in the wrong place? regards, Lorenzo Fiorini From mclasen at redhat.com Thu Feb 23 14:17:20 2006 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:17:20 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 I can't find libX11.a and libXau.a in libX11-devel.i386 In-Reply-To: <43FDC22E.9000802@tiscali.it> References: <43FDA639.4000609@tiscali.it> <200602230706.43066.dennis@ausil.us> <43FDC22E.9000802@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <1140704240.23024.48.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 15:09 +0100, Lorenzo Fiorini wrote: > Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > >dynamically link your apps > > > Thanks. > > Do you think they are "temporarily" missed from the X11-devel package > or am I looking in the wrong place? > No, static libaries are on the way out. We generally don't ship them anymore. Matthias From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 14:17:46 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:17:46 -0500 Subject: raise new windows (is it worse again?) Message-ID: I noticed that today, newly created windows are not generally raised. This is very annoying. This behavior has happened before with earlier FC5 tests, but seemed to be (somewhat) better until a couple of days ago. Now it seems that new windows are usually not raised. I'm using kde if that matters. From dwmw2 at infradead.org Thu Feb 23 14:34:57 2006 From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:34:57 +0000 Subject: Attention: Proprietary video driver users (ATI, Nvidia, etc.) In-Reply-To: <43FD0AC0.2090702@redhat.com> References: <43FD0AC0.2090702@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140705297.3803.158.camel@pmac.infradead.org> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 20:07 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Both ATI and Nvidia, and perhaps even other 3rd party drivers out there > come in some form of tarball or equivalent form from the particular > vendor. The Intel driver is worse than that, in some ways. In that case you don't even need to seek out and install separate software; a clean Fedora installation out of the box will run binary-only code supplied by your board manufacturer, without really giving you much clue that it's doing so. I recently purchased a board with Intel i915 graphics, because I was led to believe that it had a fully open source driver -- and now I've found that all the mode setup is in binary-only code. So I can't make it do the PAL output modes for which I purchased it. -- dwmw2 From alan at redhat.com Thu Feb 23 14:39:34 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:39:34 -0500 Subject: Attention: Proprietary video driver users (ATI, Nvidia, etc.) In-Reply-To: <1140705297.3803.158.camel@pmac.infradead.org> References: <43FD0AC0.2090702@redhat.com> <1140705297.3803.158.camel@pmac.infradead.org> Message-ID: <20060223143934.GA4138@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 02:34:57PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote: > Fedora installation out of the box will run binary-only code supplied by > your board manufacturer, without really giving you much clue that it's > doing so. Correct. Each intel board has board specific analogue circuitry and interfaces which are driven via a BIOS interface. X would need a driver for each motherboard (and potentially each board rev) to do anything else Alan From maestronn at wowway.com Thu Feb 23 14:40:06 2006 From: maestronn at wowway.com (Demond James) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:40:06 -0500 Subject: f-spot fails to start. Message-ID: <43FDC946.1040201@wowway.com> Is anyone else encountering this on x86_64 arch? $ f-spot & [1] 13420 $ Starting new FSpot server Unhandled Exception: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteSyntaxException: file is encrypted or is not a database in <0x00181> Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteCommand:GetNextStatement (IntPtr pzStart, System.IntPtr pzTail, System.IntPtr pStmt) in <0x000a2> Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteCommand:ExecuteReader (CommandBehavior behavior, Boolean want_results, System.Int32 rows_affected) in <0x00022> Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteCommand:ExecuteNonQuery () in <0x0006c> MetaStore:CreateTable () in <0x000e1> MetaStore:.ctor (Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteConnection connection, Boolean is_new) in <0x000f8> Db:Init (System.String path, Boolean create_if_missing) in <0x000c3> FSpot.Core:.ctor () in <0x00344> Driver:Main (System.String[] args) Demond From Stephane.Gaucher at USherbrooke.ca Thu Feb 23 14:51:37 2006 From: Stephane.Gaucher at USherbrooke.ca (Stephane Gaucher) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:51:37 -0500 Subject: No DVB support in newer kernels? In-Reply-To: References: <38737.203.56.246.92.1140620596.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <43FC9294.9090609@yahoo.de> <1140633064.43fcade8d400d@www.usherbrooke.ca> Message-ID: <1140706297.43fdcbf93f001@www.usherbrooke.ca> > >>> Has there been a decision to not include DVB support in the newer > >>> kernels? > >>> > >>> I've got 2.6.15-1.1939_FC5 running, and there seems to be no DVB > >>> modules > >>> available at all. > >>> > >>> > >> I think i have DVB support my Airstar 2 DVB-T card works out of > >> the box. > >> Perhaps you must load the modules manually. > > > > I have actually the same probleme. But I direct my solution to a re- > > compilation > > of a new kernel (with the support activated). > > > > I got a probleme with the new kernel: > > > > Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS... > > > > Any idea !?! > > What kernel arch are you running? kernel 2.6.14 I try to use a make oldconfig I try to use the last config into /boot/config... After that: make and make modules_install copy the arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14 copy a complete label in grub and change the old kernel reference to the new (with or without initrd). I have try to create a new initrd like mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.6.14 2.6.14 without success No module mptbase found for kernel 2.6.14, aborting I think the problem is here !?! From bmillett at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 14:49:05 2006 From: bmillett at gmail.com (Brian Millett) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:49:05 -0600 Subject: rawhide error 20060223 updating beagle Message-ID: <1140706145.4956.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Error running a post script for beagle. Updating : beagle ##################### [ 42/165] /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.75111: line 8: cd: /usr/lib64/firefox-1.5.0.1/extensions: No such file or directory unzip: cannot find or open /usr/lib64/beagle/beagle.xpi, /usr/lib64/beagle/beagle.xpi.zip or /usr/lib64/beagle/beagle.xpi.ZIP. grep: beagle-extension/install.rdf: No such file or directory mv: target `' is not a directory: No such file or directory error: %trigger(beagle-0.2.1-11.i386) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 Well I'm running a toshiba celeron laptop (Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz). I don't even have a /usr/lib64. -- Brian Millett - [ Talia Winters (to Bester), "A Race Through Dark Places"] "You want to keep us frightened and isolated. Not just from normals, but from each other. That's the real reason we wear gloves, isn't it? To keep us apart. But what happens when the gloves come off?" From bmillett at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 14:56:06 2006 From: bmillett at gmail.com (Brian Millett) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:56:06 -0600 Subject: why would a mirror want to hit port 5949 or 15076? Message-ID: <1140706567.4956.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, A question about ports. I tried to go to mirror ftp://fedora.namibia.na and when I did, my firestarter lit up with two events from 196.44.128.220 which is the fedora.namibia.na site. They were ICMP requests on ports 5949 & 15076. Why? What are those ports? A google really gave me nothing. -- Brian Millett - [ Garibaldi, "TKO"] "You know, you're demented." From tjikkun at xs4all.nl Thu Feb 23 15:08:18 2006 From: tjikkun at xs4all.nl (Sander Hoentjen) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:08:18 +0100 Subject: Asterisk funnies. In-Reply-To: <20060223130357.GB20323@neu.nirvana> References: <29774.192.94.41.42.1139910598.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <32035.192.94.41.42.1139911941.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <20060214170739.GN9720@neu.nirvana> <1140527906.8997.0.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <20060221133213.GA13387@neu.nirvana> <1140529191.8997.5.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <1140595277.8997.10.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <20060222105426.GI13387@neu.nirvana> <13492.213.84.157.18.1140609233.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <1140697301.3607.11.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> <20060223130357.GB20323@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <1140707299.3607.17.camel@tjikkun.dyndns.org> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 14:03 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > You can get the debuginfo packages from here: > > http://people.atrpms.net/~athimm/asterisk/ > > It would be important to know whether you can get asterisk running > under FC4. Is it possible to have an FC4 install and use the FC4 > asterisk rpms? This is known to work well, so if oyu hit something > there it should be something local. If you get no issues under FC4, > then maybe it's something like gcc 4.1 that asterisk doesn't like. In > the latter case it would be a bug report for asterisk to make the code > gcc 4.1 compatible. I'm sorry but I cannot run FC4 at the moment. Maybe I can during the weekend, I don't know yet. With debug info i get this: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread -1208219984 (LWP 944)] ast_channel_unregister (tech=0x0) at channel.c:359 359 ast_log(LOG_DEBUG, "Unregistering channel type '%s'\n", tech->type); (gdb) bt #0 ast_channel_unregister (tech=0x0) at channel.c:359 #1 0x00bcce46 in __unload_module () at chan_phone.c:1240 #2 0x0805b5f5 in ast_unload_resource (resource_name=0x9649407 "chan_phone.so", force=0) at loader.c:140 #3 0x0805bfcd in __load_resource (resource_name=0x9649407 "chan_phone.so", cfg=Variable "cfg" is not available. ) at loader.c:415 #4 0x0805c4ae in load_modules (preload_only=0) at loader.c:553 #5 0x080aebe9 in main (argc=24704, argv=0x0) at asterisk.c:2349 (gdb) bt full #0 ast_channel_unregister (tech=0x0) at channel.c:359 chan = Variable "chan" is not available. I guess I should file this with asterisk? Sander From greg at gulik.org Thu Feb 23 14:53:15 2006 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:53:15 -0600 Subject: Proprietary nvidia driver + 7800 GT PCI express In-Reply-To: <43FD71AE.5060502@cornell.edu> References: <43FD47DC.2000304@sodapopboy.com> <43FD71AE.5060502@cornell.edu> Message-ID: <43FDCC5B.5030605@gulik.org> I followed the instructions at that page. Downloaded the files from http://www.leemhuis.info/files/fedorarpms/MISC.lvn/graphics/ Did the: rpmbuild --rebuild --target `uname -m` nvidia-kmod-*.src.rpm I then installed xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-1.0.8178-0.lvn.5.i386.rpm and kmod-nvidia-1.0.8178-0.lvn.3.2.6.15_1.1969_FC5.i686.rpm I noticed the xorg.conf file was already modified by these RPMs so I started X. The screen went all grey and then nothing. Does anyone have instructions for FC5 that work? Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > Make sure you have an up to date livna srpm, containing the latest > Nvidia patch. > There's a number of issues which were fixed. > -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill at soudan.net Thu Feb 23 16:12:19 2006 From: bill at soudan.net (Bill Soudan) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:12:19 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 hang at 'Starting udev' Message-ID: <43FDDEE3.6010303@soudan.net> Hi all, Trying to install FC5T3 on my Vaio SZ140 (very newish laptop from Sony). The install went fine, but upon reboot, the machine hangs a few seconds after the 'Starting udev' message. I'm currently scouring the internet but meanwhile, I figured it might be helpful to ask here as well. I assume it's something related to PCMCIA. I had also attempted to install FC4, but FC4 would hang at the 'Starting PCMCIA' prompt. 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Name: lspcivvv URL: From jreiser at BitWagon.com Thu Feb 23 16:23:11 2006 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:23:11 -0800 Subject: FC5T3 hang at 'Starting udev' In-Reply-To: <43FDDEE3.6010303@soudan.net> References: <43FDDEE3.6010303@soudan.net> Message-ID: <43FDE16F.1020000@BitWagon.com> > Trying to install FC5T3 on my Vaio SZ140 (very newish laptop from Sony). > The install went fine, but upon reboot, the machine hangs a few seconds > after the 'Starting udev' message. Put "set -x" at the beginning of /sbin/start_udev [use a rescue mode CD-ROM]; boot and see where it hangs. Later in the same script, trace the system calls of /sbin/udevstart: "strace /sbin/udevstart". I have different hardware with the same symptom. The cause seems to be related to USB probing, and began somewhere around kernel-2.6.15: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179601 I am nearing the end of a "git bisect" search to find the kernel bug. -- From orion at cora.nwra.com Thu Feb 23 16:34:25 2006 From: orion at cora.nwra.com (Orion Poplawski) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:34:25 -0700 Subject: A thought - new testing bugs posted here... In-Reply-To: <43FCE3B8.4090809@fedoraproject.org> References: <43FCE3B8.4090809@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Orion Poplawski wrote: > >> Perhaps we could get *new* bugs filed for fc#test# posted to this list? >> > I think it would generally be useful if all the bugs and comments filed > in bugzilla including status changes is posted to a separate > fedora-bugs-list akin to fedora cvs commits list. > Well, I for one am not interested in following yet another list. But there does seem to be the "I don't want to file a bug, I'll just ask here if there is a problem" mentality that might be changed to "I'll file a bug, and everybody on fedora-testers will get to see it and be aware of it. They can chime in on the bug if need be." Again, just a thought... From bill at soudan.net Thu Feb 23 16:35:39 2006 From: bill at soudan.net (Bill Soudan) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:35:39 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 hang at 'Starting udev' In-Reply-To: <43FDE16F.1020000@BitWagon.com> References: <43FDDEE3.6010303@soudan.net> <43FDE16F.1020000@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <43FDE45B.9050204@soudan.net> John Reiser wrote: > Put "set -x" at the beginning of /sbin/start_udev [use a rescue mode CD-ROM]; > boot and see where it hangs. Later in the same script, trace the system > calls of /sbin/udevstart: "strace /sbin/udevstart". Ah, thanks for the tip. Here's the prelude to the hang: cs: IO port probe 0x3c0-0x3d2: clean cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x3af: clean cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcff: excluding 0xcf8-0xcff cs: IO port probe 0x800-0x8ff: Laptop hangs here. cat /proc/ioports doesn't show anything at 0x800? Weird. Bill From ben.steeves at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 17:12:32 2006 From: ben.steeves at gmail.com (Ben Steeves) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:12:32 -0400 Subject: Building mono apps with current rawhide on x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1140175091.24328.31.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> References: <1140175091.24328.31.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> Message-ID: <7ebb24d10602230912q20d70766pb57e9b2ae3e8a756@mail.gmail.com> On 2/17/06, Paul F. Johnson wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to build gtksourceview-sharp on my x86_64 box. The archive > dearchives and the build starts fine. Then stops dead after compiling > the first line of code. > > This seems to happen when I try to do *anything* with the x86_64 version > of mono. > > Is anyone else seeing this? > > Yes. It appears to be this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179228 . I was seeing it on kernel 1.1915, but it's gone in 1.1969. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at gmail.com against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/bcs / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harald at redhat.com Thu Feb 23 17:13:37 2006 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:13:37 +0100 Subject: FC5T3 hang at 'Starting udev' In-Reply-To: <43FDE45B.9050204@soudan.net> References: <43FDDEE3.6010303@soudan.net> <43FDE16F.1020000@BitWagon.com> <43FDE45B.9050204@soudan.net> Message-ID: <43FDED41.80501@redhat.com> Bill Soudan wrote: > John Reiser wrote: > >> Put "set -x" at the beginning of /sbin/start_udev [use a rescue mode >> CD-ROM]; >> boot and see where it hangs. Later in the same script, trace the system >> calls of /sbin/udevstart: "strace /sbin/udevstart". > > > Ah, thanks for the tip. Here's the prelude to the hang: > > cs: IO port probe 0x3c0-0x3d2: clean > cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x3af: clean > cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcff: excluding 0xcf8-0xcff > cs: IO port probe 0x800-0x8ff: > > Laptop hangs here. > > cat /proc/ioports doesn't show anything at 0x800? Weird. > > Bill > > /etc/udev/udev.conf: udev_log="info" also helps From mharris at mharris.ca Thu Feb 23 17:31:34 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:31:34 -0500 Subject: FC5t3: Install with Nvidia Geforce 7600GT problem In-Reply-To: <1140487666.5995.0.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43FA6E68.9070707@xstatica.com> <1140487666.5995.0.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43FDF176.8000803@mharris.ca> Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 20:35 -0500, Adam Gibson wrote: > >>What does it take to get device 0092 added to the approved nvidia device >>list so that it is detected properly to use the nv driver? > > > File a bug with the pci id against xorg-x11-drv-nv Except that that PCI ID is already in nv.xinf -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Thu Feb 23 17:53:58 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:53:58 -0500 Subject: closing older bug reports without looking = bad practice ? In-Reply-To: <43FB1EB7.1030100@research.att.com> References: <1140463650.3252.30.camel@mariusa-ro.ro.oracle.com> <20060221035356.GA9327@redhat.com> <43FB1EB7.1030100@research.att.com> Message-ID: <43FDF6B6.9070301@mharris.ca> John Ellson wrote: > Dave Jones wrote: > >> - When bugs have been in NEEDINFO states for _months_. >> If the user has got tired reporting 'bug still there', >> there's not a lot more I can do, and closing these bugs >> does 'wake up' a bunch of dormant bugs. >> > > A problem with the NEEDINFO states is that the bug disappears from the > "my bugs" query in bugzilla, > so if the user misses the email (or puts it off and then forgets) the > bug is probably lost. My suggestion is "make a better bugzilla query" then. I don't know what our other developers do, but personally, I don't use any of the bugzilla pre-baked buttons/knobs/whistles, as they are totally inadequate for my purposes. I don't use any bugzilla "stored queries" either. In theory, stored queries is nice as you can log into bugzilla from any computer, and have all your normal queries there. That is probably beneficial to some people, but I work from home, and have a master workstation that all bugzilla'ing is done from so bookmarks give me the same functionality as stored queries, but with IMHO more flexibility. I set up various highly custom queries to find bugs in any open bug state, which includes the various NEEDINFO states, etc. I've got queries for mharris owned bugs, for xgl-maint owned, for both, for bugs filed against specific components, specific OS releases, for bugs in specific states or groups of states, etc. This allowes me the most flexibility in spitting out a list of a subset of all bugs, which I'd like to focus on at any given point. In addition to that, we have an internal tool named MCP which is a task-based frontend to bugzilla and various other internal Red Hat infrastructure. MCP is a huge help to our engineers in focusing in on a specific area of bugs, such as "FC5Blocker" or "RHEL4U8 updates" and whatnot. Mind you, this tool is not visible publically (nor would it really be useful to the general public if it was), although now that I've mentioned it, I'm sure somebody will whine about the fact we have private internal tools which they can't see/use. Oh well, deal with it. ;o) > There is an RFE for bugs in the NEEDINFO state to be listed in "my bugs" > in BZ# 174930 I don't use the NEEDINFO state much anymore myself. I generally use NEEDINFO_REPORTER or NEEDINFO_ENG, etc. as that makes it more explicit as to who the bug is waiting on info from. My NEEDINFO bug queries are all updated to get all NEEDINFO* bugs at once. A bug being in one of the NEEDINFO* states however does not actually mean that info is in need of info though, as quite often the reporter adds the info which has been requested, and simply does not change the bug back to ASSIGNED (either they don't realize they need to do this, or they forget or whatever). At other times, a bug might already have enough info present, but an engineer or someone else might ask for some additional info to be added if possible, but which isn't strictly mandatory in order to proceed. Due to the last 2 factors I cite, and perhaps some others I'm not thinking of now, there is no sane way that anyone should be concluding that since a bug is in NEEDINFO* state for n days, that the bug should be automatically closed, or have anything automatic done to it. The proper way of handling masses of bugs in NEEDINFO state, is to set up a few bug queries to bring them up in an organized fashion (or a subset of them), and then bringing up each bug individually and doing a manual skim/triage. I usually bring up my "show all NEEDINFO*" buglist, and then sort by last change date. I bring up 5 or so bugs at a time from the oldest last-changed date. Then I review them, and if the info was supplied and state not changed to ASSIGNED, I move it to ASSIGNED myself (or otherwise review the info, update the report and perhaps leave it in NEEDINFO* asking for more info, etc.) If myself or someone else has requested info about something and not ever received any form of response back at all, I might "ping" the report, or I might close it with a friendlyish stock response that asks the person to test the latest whatever out and reopen the bug if it is still present, etc. There's a bit more to it all than this, but that is the general approach I take to masses of NEEDINFO bugs that are lying around for a long time. If there are too many to handle all in one sitting, I do a handful, and come back to them in a day/week/whenever I have the time. Mass-closing all the bugs, or doing anything generic to all at once I think would in most cases just irritate the people who filed the bugs, perhaps enough so that they decide to never bother filing a bug again. If one is planning on irritating people, it is much more fun to do it on an individual basis than doing it to everybody at once. ;o) -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Thu Feb 23 17:56:33 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:56:33 -0500 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <200602221116.51710.russell@coker.com.au> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1139462172.5076.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <20060221001605.GB25007@redhat.com> <200602221116.51710.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <43FDF751.7030202@mharris.ca> Russell Coker wrote: > On Tuesday 21 February 2006 11:16, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > >>I suggested enabling allow_execstack before, but dwalsh set me straight. >>The SELinux type on /usr/bin/Xair should match that of /usr/bin/Xorg >>(which can already use an executable stack), so >> chcon -t xserver_exec_t /usr/bin/Xorg >>is the more correct way to fix this. > > > Is Xair an X server? If not then assigning that type isn't the correct > solution, even though it may work. Yes. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Feb 23 18:34:03 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:34:03 +0000 Subject: Building mono apps with current rawhide on x86_64 In-Reply-To: <7ebb24d10602230912q20d70766pb57e9b2ae3e8a756@mail.gmail.com> References: <1140175091.24328.31.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> <7ebb24d10602230912q20d70766pb57e9b2ae3e8a756@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140719643.20488.1.camel@T7.Linux> Hi, > Yes. It appears to be this bug: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179228 . I was > seeing it on kernel 1.1915, but it's gone in 1.1969. It's still bust at this end. /bin/sh: --metadata=./Gtk.metadata: No such file or directory make[1]: [gtksourceview-api.xml] Error 127 (ignored) /bin/sh: I:/usr/lib64/pkgconfig/../../share/gapi-2.0/gnome-api.xml: No such file or directory make[1]: [generated-stamp] Error 127 (ignored) error CS2001: Source file `generated/*.cs' could not be found make[1]: *** [gtksourceview-sharp.dll] Error 1 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.71775 (%build) Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.71775 (%build) The file it's after 100% exists on my system. > The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at gmail.com > against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 Was this ironic? The email came through as HTML! TTFN Paul -- "Tr?um's nicht, Lebe schon" - Dr. Frankenfurter, Rocky Horror Show From jpearson42 at wowway.com Thu Feb 23 18:37:48 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:37:48 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 iso image question Message-ID: <200602231337.49200.jpearson42@wowway.com> I would like to try upgrading my Fedora Core 4 test box. I have been trying to use torrents with little success. I need an i386 version of the media. I have tried three times to get a set of cd images, but disc5 and rescuecd fail at sha1sum. I first tried the dvd image, but that died several times without completing. I will need the disc5 image to complete the update attempt. Is there some other source that I could try? Or is there some other way to create the image that I need. Thanks, Jpearson From jpearson42 at wowway.com Thu Feb 23 18:46:57 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:46:57 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 iso image question In-Reply-To: <200602231337.49200.jpearson42@wowway.com> References: <200602231337.49200.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: <200602231346.57593.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Thursday 23 February 2006 1:37 pm, John Pearson wrote: > I would like to try upgrading my Fedora Core 4 test box. I have been > trying to use torrents with little success. I need an i386 version of the > media. I have tried three times to get a set of cd images, but disc5 and > rescuecd fail at sha1sum. I first tried the dvd image, but that died > several times without completing. I will need the disc5 image to complete > the update attempt. Is there some other source that I could try? Or is > there some other way to create the image that I need. > > > Thanks, > > Jpearson I found a mirror and am downloading another copy. It just took posting here, I guess? -jpearson From ben.steeves at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 18:48:57 2006 From: ben.steeves at gmail.com (Ben Steeves) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:48:57 -0400 Subject: Building mono apps with current rawhide on x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1140719643.20488.1.camel@T7.Linux> References: <1140175091.24328.31.camel@mrwibble.mrwobble> <7ebb24d10602230912q20d70766pb57e9b2ae3e8a756@mail.gmail.com> <1140719643.20488.1.camel@T7.Linux> Message-ID: <7ebb24d10602231048n2738e8cdl479cb39391611589@mail.gmail.com> On 2/23/06, Paul F. Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > > Yes. It appears to be this bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179228 . I was > > seeing it on kernel 1.1915, but it's gone in 1.1969. > > It's still bust at this end. > > /bin/sh: --metadata=./Gtk.metadata: No such file or directory > make[1]: [gtksourceview-api.xml] Error 127 (ignored) > /bin/sh: I:/usr/lib64/pkgconfig/../../share/gapi-2.0/gnome-api.xml: No > such file or directory > make[1]: [generated-stamp] Error 127 (ignored) > error CS2001: Source file `generated/*.cs' could not be found > make[1]: *** [gtksourceview-sharp.dll] Error 1 > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.71775 (%build) > Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.71775 (%build) > > The file it's after 100% exists on my system. Maybe I misunderstood your original post: I was seeing a total lockup of anything using mono on the old kernel (i.e., the build of gtksourceview-sharp) would freeze up and never return (not return an error as yours is doing). > > The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at gmail.com > > against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 > > Was this ironic? The email came through as HTML! It's GMail's fault :-) -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at gmail.com against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/bcs / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From jreiser at BitWagon.com Thu Feb 23 19:05:09 2006 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:05:09 -0800 Subject: FC5T3 iso image question In-Reply-To: <200602231346.57593.jpearson42@wowway.com> References: <200602231337.49200.jpearson42@wowway.com> <200602231346.57593.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: <43FE0765.3080507@BitWagon.com> >>... I have tried three times to get a set of cd images, but disc5 and >>rescuecd fail at sha1sum. There is a reasonable probability that the CDs are OK, even though mediacheck says that they are not. Compare the checksums of the harddisk sources (which are NOT the same as the mediacheck CD checksums) with the checksums published by the mirror site for each file. If the harddisk source is OK, and 3 of 5 CDs pass mediacheck, then chances are that the other 2 CDs are OK, too. Did you try "boot: linux ide=nodma" like it suggests in the Release Notes? This isn't guaranteed to work, but sometimes [1/2 ? 2/3 ? 3/4 ?] it does. There CD-ROM spec is too loose; it is somewhat hard to determine reliably where the end of recorded data is. Old kernel module ide_scsi could deal with the problem in most cases, but the current ide subsystem cannot. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131858 -- From khirano at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 19:08:03 2006 From: khirano at gmail.com (Kazunari Hirano) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:08:03 +0900 Subject: Announcing Fedora Core 5 Test 3 In-Reply-To: <1140545192.17286.97.camel@ender> References: <1140458562.2312.79.camel@ender> <1140545192.17286.97.camel@ender> Message-ID: Hi Jesse, > Yes, there is a single srpm that will generate binary rpms for each > arch. However not every arch gets every package, and some packages are > specific to just one arch. s390-utils and the like. This would mean > that given the binary packages in a given arch, the source package set > could vary between each arch. In the past, the specific source package > set was spun into isos for each arch creating slightly different iso > sets for each arch and a lot of wasted space. Now all the srpms used > for any arch are put in a single directory, and that directory is used > to spin a single set of source isos. Much less wasted space and much > easier to bypass the sources when you are downloading or mirroring. Thanks for your explanation. Very clear now :) I have just translated your comment above into Japanese and forwarded to discuss at fedora.jp. Regards, khirano From alan at redhat.com Thu Feb 23 19:26:30 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:26:30 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 iso image question In-Reply-To: <43FE0765.3080507@BitWagon.com> References: <200602231337.49200.jpearson42@wowway.com> <200602231346.57593.jpearson42@wowway.com> <43FE0765.3080507@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <20060223192630.GA9727@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 11:05:09AM -0800, John Reiser wrote: > There CD-ROM spec is too loose; it is somewhat hard to determine reliably > where the end of recorded data is. Old kernel module ide_scsi could deal > with the problem in most cases, but the current ide subsystem cannot. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131858 The spec is fine, the kernel is not. Alan From michael.favia at insitesinc.com Thu Feb 23 19:27:04 2006 From: michael.favia at insitesinc.com (Michael Favia) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:27:04 -0600 Subject: FC5T3 iso image question In-Reply-To: <200602231337.49200.jpearson42@wowway.com> References: <200602231337.49200.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: <43FE0C88.1040703@insitesinc.com> John Pearson wrote: > I would like to try upgrading my Fedora Core 4 test box. I have been trying > to use torrents with little success. I need an i386 version of the media. I > have tried three times to get a set of cd images, but disc5 and rescuecd fail > at sha1sum. I first tried the dvd image, but that died several times without > completing. I will need the disc5 image to complete the update attempt. Is > there some other source that I could try? Or is there some other way to > create the image that I need. Wow someone who downloads BOTH CD5 and checksums their EMTIRE installation media set. i'm buying a lotto ticket or more life insurance dont know which. -- Michael Favia michael.favia at insitesinc.com Insites Incorporated http://michael.insitesinc.com From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 23 19:30:50 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:30:50 +0000 Subject: raise new windows (is it worse again?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43FE0D6A.50505@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/23/2006 02:17 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > I noticed that today, newly created windows are not generally raised. This > is very annoying. This behavior has happened before with earlier FC5 > tests, but seemed to be (somewhat) better until a couple of days ago. Now > it seems that new windows are usually not raised. > > I'm using kde if that matters. Same here (KDE as well). Bugzilla it? Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 19:38:47 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:38:47 -0500 Subject: automounts not timing out Message-ID: I just noticed today that something that was automounted via /net is not timing out. I am not (intentionally) accessing it. Something broken? From jpearson42 at wowway.com Thu Feb 23 19:48:41 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:48:41 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 iso image question In-Reply-To: <43FE0765.3080507@BitWagon.com> References: <200602231337.49200.jpearson42@wowway.com> <200602231346.57593.jpearson42@wowway.com> <43FE0765.3080507@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <200602231448.42122.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Thursday 23 February 2006 2:05 pm, John Reiser wrote: > >>... I have tried three times to get a set of cd images, but disc5 and > >>rescuecd fail at sha1sum. > > There is a reasonable probability that the CDs are OK, even though > mediacheck says that they are not. Compare the checksums of the harddisk > sources (which are NOT the same as the mediacheck CD checksums) with the > checksums published by the mirror site for each file. If the harddisk > source is OK, and 3 of 5 CDs pass mediacheck, then chances are that the > other 2 CDs are OK, too. > > Did you try "boot: linux ide=nodma" like it suggests in the Release Notes? > This isn't guaranteed to work, but sometimes [1/2 ? 2/3 ? 3/4 ?] it does. > There CD-ROM spec is too loose; it is somewhat hard to determine reliably > where the end of recorded data is. Old kernel module ide_scsi could deal > with the problem in most cases, but the current ide subsystem cannot. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131858 > > -- Well, my thought is that somewhere the data stream conflumagated. I just crossed my fingers and went on with the 4 discs that were good. Installation started right up, and the first 4 discs loaded. Then it wanted the disc 5. so I am stuck, kind of. I either find a working disc 5 to complete the upgrade, or dump the install -- lossing the chance to test the upgrade path. I am planning a clean install after this test, anyway. OK, a quasi-local mirror just provided an image that checksummed. I will write/read-back and then finish up the install. Thanks for the timely, helpful replies. -Jpearson From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 20:04:24 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:04:24 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 iso image question In-Reply-To: <200602231337.49200.jpearson42@wowway.com> References: <200602231337.49200.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602231204j101fe841ofef71f1e0445fed@mail.gmail.com> On 2/23/06, John Pearson wrote: > I would like to try upgrading my Fedora Core 4 test box. I have been trying > to use torrents with little success. I need an i386 version of the media. I > have tried three times to get a set of cd images, but disc5 and rescuecd fail > at sha1sum. Hmm... I'm pretty sure i did the sha1sum check on the disks i pulled down over torrent and they all passed...but I'll do it again just for you later when I get home. I burned the media and ran mediacheck on all 5 i386 isos and they passed. I'm not sure why you are having trouble with disk5 from the torrent. -jef From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 23 19:46:03 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:46:03 +0000 Subject: FC5T3 freeze (x86_64 + NVidia 6600) Message-ID: <43FE10FB.5020303@yahoo.co.uk> Hi, After fresh install on AMD X2 3800+ (installed x86_64 release) / NVidia 6600 and eventually figuring out that ddcprobe segfaults (so I turned kudzu off / this issue is apparently fixed in devel) I got FC5T3 working. Left for night the machine froze after 2.5 hours running - I was welcomed with frozen screensaver and totally hang up OS (no way to ssh to it, keyboard does not react to Num Lock). I suspect the nv driver (it's a pristine installation, no tweaking whatsoever) since I used to get X garbled using Kubuntu on this machine using it (however proprietary drivers packaged for Kubuntu work ok). What info can help solve this issue (I have collected some logs)? Against what should I file a bug? Regards, Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 20:19:43 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:19:43 -0500 Subject: raise new windows (is it worse again?) References: <43FE0D6A.50505@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 02/23/2006 02:17 PM, Neal Becker wrote: >> I noticed that today, newly created windows are not generally raised. >> This >> is very annoying. This behavior has happened before with earlier FC5 >> tests, but seemed to be (somewhat) better until a couple of days ago. >> Now it seems that new windows are usually not raised. >> >> I'm using kde if that matters. > > Same here (KDE as well). Bugzilla it? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182643 From jpearson42 at wowway.com Thu Feb 23 20:25:29 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:25:29 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 iso image question In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602231204j101fe841ofef71f1e0445fed@mail.gmail.com> References: <200602231337.49200.jpearson42@wowway.com> <604aa7910602231204j101fe841ofef71f1e0445fed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200602231525.29314.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Thursday 23 February 2006 3:04 pm, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/23/06, John Pearson wrote: > > I would like to try upgrading my Fedora Core 4 test box. I have been > > trying to use torrents with little success. I need an i386 version of > > the media. I have tried three times to get a set of cd images, but disc5 > > and rescuecd fail at sha1sum. > > Hmm... I'm pretty sure i did the sha1sum check on the disks i pulled > down over torrent and they all passed...but I'll do it again just for > you later when I get home. I burned the media and ran mediacheck on > all 5 i386 isos and they passed. I'm not sure why you are having > trouble with disk5 from the torrent. > > -jef I did manage to find a localish mirror and pull down a copy which is good. I can't really comment on why the image was bad. But sha1sum was not happy, k3b claimed it was not a usable image file. The new one checked out, burned, the glass copy passed a byte for byte check after burning. More importantly, the upgrade completed cleanly. I have to upgraded version running, and I am starting to do some verification with it. Thanks -Jpearson From jpearson42 at wowway.com Thu Feb 23 20:40:04 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:40:04 -0500 Subject: Testing Request In-Reply-To: <1140652106.13287.27.camel@ender> References: <1140652106.13287.27.camel@ender> Message-ID: <200602231540.04527.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Wednesday 22 February 2006 6:48 pm, Jesse Keating wrote: > Seems that when upgrading from FC3 to FC4, cups-lpd dissapeared. I'd > like to make sure this doesn't happen for FC4 to FC5 or FC3 to FC5. > > Can one of you do an install of FC4 that includes cups-lpd, and attempt > to use anaconda to upgrade to FC5Test3 (or current rawhide) and see if > cups-lpd continues to exist? Please comment in: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=164100 > > NOTE: Do not comment about other upgrade problems, just specifically > cups-lpd. I have just finished an upgrade from an updated FC4 installation to FC5T3. jpearson at localhost ~]$ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 #1 Wed Feb 15 15:45:39 EST 2006 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [jpearson at localhost ~]$ locate cups-lpd /etc/xinetd.d/cups-lpd /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-lpd /usr/share/man/es/man8/cups-lpd.8.gz /usr/share/man/fr/man8/cups-lpd.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/cups-lpd.8.gz /var/cache/yum/updates-local/headers/cups-lpd-1.1.23-15.3.i386.hdr /var/cache/yum/updates-local/packages/cups-lpd-1.1.23-15.3.i386.rpm I did notice an error message at boot-up about a seq fault. But I was not quick enough to write it down. Is there something else that I should look at? -Jpearson From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Thu Feb 23 21:48:43 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:48:43 -0500 Subject: FC4 -> FC5t3 notes Message-ID: <20060223214843.GA1552@wolves.durham.nc.us> I found that /etc/sysconfig/network got overwritten and loses the hostname. /etc/yum.repos.d/ files did not get updated correctly, wrong repos left enabled. some of the stuff in /etc/sysconfig/networking/ gets scrambled there is a small thread in fedora-list about some of this. (me and Nat Gross) -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Thu Feb 23 21:50:59 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:50:59 -0500 Subject: FC4 -> FC5t3 notes In-Reply-To: <20060223214843.GA1552@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20060223214843.GA1552@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <1140731459.23995.0.camel@cutter> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 16:48 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > I found that /etc/sysconfig/network got overwritten and loses the > hostname. > > /etc/yum.repos.d/ files did not get updated correctly, wrong repos left > enabled. What ones did it leave enabled vs disabled? -sv From orion at cora.nwra.com Thu Feb 23 21:53:53 2006 From: orion at cora.nwra.com (Orion Poplawski) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:53:53 -0700 Subject: FC5T3 upgrade attempt fails on mac mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Orion Poplawski wrote: > Booted from the CD. After clicking on the "Install anyway" button the > installer crashes and the system shuts down. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182457 > Issue with attached firewire drive. From mgleahy at golden.net Thu Feb 23 22:10:06 2006 From: mgleahy at golden.net (Mike Leahy) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:10:06 -0500 Subject: hibernate/suspend? Message-ID: <43FE32BE.5090306@golden.net> Hello list, I installed FC5T3 yestereday. I found that I was able to successfully hibernate/restart before running any updates. However, it took about 3 or 4 minutes to complete, partly because of some errors I get when the screen first goes blank...something that looks like: "end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, ". Last time I asked about this, somebody said it was an issue with the kernel. At any rate, I ran yum to update the system, and hibernate is pooched again...it just goes black, shows those end_request errors about accessing a floppy device that I don't even have on my laptop, and then just sits there. As an alternative, I tried to suspend. This worked halfway, until I un-suspended, after which I got just a blank screen. Is there anything I should do to try to debug either the suspend or hibernate tools? Mike From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Thu Feb 23 22:28:35 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:28:35 -0500 Subject: FC4 -> FC5t3 notes In-Reply-To: <1140731459.23995.0.camel@cutter> References: <20060223214843.GA1552@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1140731459.23995.0.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <20060223222835.GA2332@wolves.durham.nc.us> On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 04:50:59PM -0500, seth vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 16:48 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > > I found that /etc/sysconfig/network got overwritten and loses the > > hostname. > > > > /etc/yum.repos.d/ files did not get updated correctly, wrong repos left > > enabled. > > What ones did it leave enabled vs disabled? > > -sv It left the FC4 repos enabled *and* the new development repos enabled, lots of confusion. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Thu Feb 23 22:34:03 2006 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:34:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: vino causing high processor usage Message-ID: <20060223223403.36714.qmail@web86610.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Just gave vino a try on fc5test3 and found that using vino on the machine by enabling it in remote desktop has rather a detrimental effect on system performace as compared with how it was in FC4. When idle just viewing the remote destop with nothing else but system-monitor running the idle usge on my AMD Athalon 1200 machine goes up quite alarmingly to about 50% and the system slows to a crawl as a result, previously in FC4 on the same hardware this was not evident. Is anyone else seeing high processor usage when vino is in use. From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 23 22:35:20 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:35:20 -0500 Subject: FC4 -> FC5t3 notes In-Reply-To: <20060223222835.GA2332@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20060223214843.GA1552@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1140731459.23995.0.camel@cutter> <20060223222835.GA2332@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <1140734120.3701.7.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 17:28 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 04:50:59PM -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 16:48 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > > > I found that /etc/sysconfig/network got overwritten and loses the > > > hostname. > > > > > > /etc/yum.repos.d/ files did not get updated correctly, wrong repos left > > > enabled. > > > > What ones did it leave enabled vs disabled? > It left the FC4 repos enabled *and* the new development repos enabled, > lots of confusion. Had you modified the FC4 repo files? Jeremy From jpearson42 at wowway.com Thu Feb 23 22:50:17 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:50:17 -0500 Subject: FC4 to FC5T3 Update Message-ID: <200602231750.17432.jpearson42@wowway.com> Initial impression: Most things came through. Some did not. The /etc/sysconfig/network was overwritten; the hostname of the system was lost. The /etc/hosts file diappeared without backup, the new file containing only the localhost line. I don't know if it has bearing, but I requested vnc monitoring during the installation. It did not work, but this was my first try with it. It did bring up the network configuration dialog. i supplied the static ip and non-standard gateway settings. But the hostname dialog did not run. i really didn't expect it, since I requested an upgrade. The information was already booked in the system. I did not expect the upgrade to handle the surplus repository definitions. Looking into /etc/yum.repos.d/ [jpearson at localhost yum.repos.d]$ ls atrpms.repo fedora.repo.rpmsave dag.repo fedora-updates.repo dries.repo fedora-updates.repo.rpmnew Edward.repo fedora-updates-testing.repo Edward.repo~ fedora-updates-testing.repo.rpmnew fedora-core.repo freevo.repo fedora-development.repo freshrpms.repo fedora-extras-development.repo freshrpms.repo~ fedora-extras.repo livna.repo fedora-extras.repo.rpmnew It looks like most of the changes are available. Some notification of rpmnew, and rpmsave, might be useful. Now that I look: [jpearson at localhost ~]$ locate rpmnew /etc/ldap.conf.rpmnew /etc/localtime.rpmnew /etc/rndc.key.rpmnew /etc/updatedb.conf.rpmnew /etc/vimrc.rpmnew /etc/X11/fs/config.rpmnew /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf.rpmnew /etc/openldap/ldap.conf.rpmnew /etc/sysconfig/vncservers.rpmnew /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-extras.repo.rpmnew /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo.rpmnew /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo.rpmnew Thank you for not resetting locate, localtime, logwatch and vncservers. [jpearson at localhost ~]$ locate rpmsave /etc/named.conf.rpmsave /etc/updatedb.conf.rpmsave /etc/X11/X.rpmsave /etc/alsa/pcm/dmix.conf.rpmsave /etc/alsa/pcm/dsnoop.conf.rpmsave /etc/hotplug/usb.usermap.rpmsave /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia.rpmsave /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo.rpmsave /usr/share/a2ps/afm/fonts.map.rpmsave I don't routinely scan for these modifications, although I probably should. The loss of livna supplied nvidia drivers was transparent. I am impressed with the care that implies. I am ready to do the first update. I think that I will try pup. -Jpearson From nat101l at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 22:55:32 2006 From: nat101l at gmail.com (Nat Gross) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:55:32 -0500 Subject: FC4 -> FC5t3 notes In-Reply-To: <1140731459.23995.0.camel@cutter> References: <20060223214843.GA1552@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1140731459.23995.0.camel@cutter> Message-ID: On 2/23/06, seth vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 16:48 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > > I found that /etc/sysconfig/network got overwritten and loses the > > hostname. > > > > /etc/yum.repos.d/ files did not get updated correctly, wrong repos left > > enabled. > > What ones did it leave enabled vs disabled? Here is an exact dump of my yum update process. Each time yum failed, I simply disabled that repo, and tried again. Until, with 2 repos left enabled it worked. Here goes: -------------------------------------------- # yum update Loading "installonlyn" plugin Setting up Update Process Setting up repositories kde-redhat: ################ 2/6Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: kde-redhat-stable Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: kde-redhat-stable # yum update Loading "installonlyn" plugin Setting up Update Process Setting up repositories extras-development 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 dag : ############################## 3/5http://apt.sw. be/fedora/4.92/en/i386/dag/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 40 4: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:20:40 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.1-dev (Unix) Content-Length: 317 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Trying other mirror. Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: dag failure: repodata/repomd.xml from dag: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. Error: failure: repodata/repomd.xml from dag: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try . # yum update Loading "installonlyn" plugin Setting up Update Process Setting up repositories freshrpms : ##################################### 3/4http://ayo.fre shrpms.net/fedora/linux/4.92/i386/freshrpms/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOErr or: HTTP Error 404: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:21:16 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.1-dev (Unix) Content-Length: 334 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Trying other mirror. Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: freshrpms failure: repodata/repomd.xml from freshrpms: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. Error: failure: repodata/repomd.xml from freshrpms: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. # yum update Loading "installonlyn" plugin Setting up Update Process Setting up repositories extras : ################################################## 3/3 http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/4.92/i386/repodata/rep omd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:21:49 GMT Server: Apache Last-Modified: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:15:42 GMT Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 3542 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Trying other mirror. Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: extras failure: repodata/repomd.xml from extras: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. Error: failure: repodata/repomd.xml from extras: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. # yum update Loading "installonlyn" plugin Setting up Update Process Setting up repositories extras-dev: ################################################## 2/2 Reading repository metadata in from local files primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 1.2 MB 00:06 developmen: ################################################## 4306/4306 Added 4306 new packages, deleted 0 old in 35.73 seconds primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 1.3 MB 00:53 extras-dev: ################################################## 3630/3630 Added 3630 new packages, deleted 0 old in 37.47 seconds Resolving Dependencies ... ------------------------------------------- Hope this info is useful. -nat ps. its updating 145 pkg;s as we 'speak'. From nat101l at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 22:57:24 2006 From: nat101l at gmail.com (Nat Gross) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:57:24 -0500 Subject: FC4 -> FC5t3 notes In-Reply-To: References: <20060223214843.GA1552@wolves.durham.nc.us> <1140731459.23995.0.camel@cutter> Message-ID: Oh. I also did a yum clean all, first. -nat From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Thu Feb 23 22:57:44 2006 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:57:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Network disconnected popup Message-ID: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Since yesterdays updates I am seeing a popup saying that the network is disconnected but it isn't any idea which component could be causing this so that a bug report can be raised against it. From orion at cora.nwra.com Thu Feb 23 22:58:48 2006 From: orion at cora.nwra.com (Orion Poplawski) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:58:48 -0700 Subject: hibernate/suspend? In-Reply-To: <43FE32BE.5090306@golden.net> References: <43FE32BE.5090306@golden.net> Message-ID: Mike Leahy wrote: > Hello list, > > I installed FC5T3 yestereday. I found that I was able to successfully > hibernate/restart before running any updates. However, it took about 3 > or 4 minutes to complete, partly because of some errors I get when the > screen first goes blank...something that looks like: > > "end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, ". > > Last time I asked about this, somebody said it was an issue with the > kernel. Remove fd0 from /boot/grub/device.map, should fix that I think. From nat101l at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 23:07:32 2006 From: nat101l at gmail.com (Nat Gross) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:07:32 -0500 Subject: FC4 -> FC5t3 notes In-Reply-To: <20060223214843.GA1552@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20060223214843.GA1552@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: On 2/23/06, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > I found that /etc/sysconfig/network got overwritten and loses the > hostname. > > /etc/yum.repos.d/ files did not get updated correctly, wrong repos left > enabled. > > some of the stuff in /etc/sysconfig/networking/ gets scrambled ALSO, nfs clients from this server cannot read the nfs mounted dirs. Although /etc/exports was not changed, and I exported them again from the fc5t3 machine. Also, my external usb 2.0 drive needs some coaxing to work. It has 3 partitions, and they show up differently on the Gnome desktop upon every boot, and dont show up at all on the kde desktop. It does some weird stuff when unmounting via the gui. But I'll wait after the yum update is complete to verify again. Otherwise, pretty cool. Sorry, the list of goodies is too long to list! -nat From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Thu Feb 23 23:19:03 2006 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:19:03 +0100 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped Message-ID: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> I was about to submit a bug report that neither does the installer simply allow my to throw the full contents of the DVD onto my disk anymore, nor do any of my kickstart files work with FC5 anymore, when I found that this was not a bug or a temporary shortcoming, but was done on purpose (at least according to a post by R. Sundaram which sounded quite authoritative). It can't be sane to force a user to have to select the bits from the CDs/DVDs. The majority of the users want to get the beast on their system and see what's up with it. The older generation like me browse the man pages and /usr/share/doc, the younger use the graphical menus. Neither want to start poking with depsolvers into rpm metadata for fishing interesting software and play CD jokey afterwards. Please bring @everything or equivalent back. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nat101l at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 23:27:57 2006 From: nat101l at gmail.com (Nat Gross) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:27:57 -0500 Subject: fc5t3 gui installer "off screen" Message-ID: Hi; On my Samsung 213T lcd screen, the key installer options ( ) were nowhere on the screen (or off the screen, even if I tried moving the image via the screen hardware menu). It was a good thing it was from a a dvd iso, because the only thing I saw was the huge logo, sometimes a progress bar, and sometimes some instruction to hit a key, but that key-icon was not visible, and I had to guess the default setting or used alt+key hoping that it will 'take' and not cancel the install. At one point, while I was pondering what to do (and tried to google some info on another cpu), the installer timed out waiting and... continued! Please excuse me for not using bugzilla. I do not have experience with that creature. -nat From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 23 23:28:26 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:28:26 -0500 Subject: hibernate/suspend? In-Reply-To: References: <43FE32BE.5090306@golden.net> Message-ID: <1140737306.3701.12.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 15:58 -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: > Mike Leahy wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > I installed FC5T3 yestereday. I found that I was able to successfully > > hibernate/restart before running any updates. However, it took about 3 > > or 4 minutes to complete, partly because of some errors I get when the > > screen first goes blank...something that looks like: > > > > "end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, ". > > > > Last time I asked about this, somebody said it was an issue with the > > kernel. > > Remove fd0 from /boot/grub/device.map, should fix that I think. Changed pm-hibernate in CVS to add --no-floppy to the grub invocation Jeremy From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 23 23:30:12 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:30:12 -0500 Subject: fc5t3 gui installer "off screen" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1140737412.3701.14.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 18:27 -0500, Nat Gross wrote: > On my Samsung 213T lcd screen, the key installer options ( > ) were nowhere on the screen (or off the screen, even > if I tried moving the image via the screen hardware menu). It was a > good thing it was from a a dvd iso, because the only thing I saw was > the huge logo, sometimes a progress bar, and sometimes some > instruction to hit a key, but that key-icon was not visible, and I had > to guess the default setting or used alt+key hoping that it will > 'take' and not cancel the install. What video chip is in your machine? > Please excuse me for not using bugzilla. I do not have experience with > that creature. bugzilla isn't that difficult to use, and by not doing so, it makes it a lot easier for reports to be lost (my memory is lossy while bugzilla is always there to haunt me :-) Jeremy From pp at ee.oulu.fi Thu Feb 23 23:30:49 2006 From: pp at ee.oulu.fi (Pekka Pietikainen) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:30:49 +0200 Subject: hibernate/suspend? In-Reply-To: References: <43FE32BE.5090306@golden.net> Message-ID: <20060223233048.GA20305@ee.oulu.fi> On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 03:58:48PM -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: > >Last time I asked about this, somebody said it was an issue with the > >kernel. > > Remove fd0 from /boot/grub/device.map, should fix that I think. Yup, it does (for me at least). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=155876 is the relevant bug (well, added a comment there since it seems to be the same thing, --no-floppy doesn't do what one would expect it to do) Or should anaconda/whatnot even be putting fd0 there in the first place? *shrug* -- Pekka Pietikainen From monty19 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 23 23:13:48 2006 From: monty19 at hotmail.com (Jason Montleon) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:13:48 +0900 Subject: vino causing high processor usage References: <20060223223403.36714.qmail@web86610.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have a PIII 700 MHz Dell Inspiron 8000 laptop with 512MB memory that I am testing FC5T3 on. I actively use vino to connect to the system remotely, and I notice it is a bit slower when I accessing it that way, rather than at the console. Nothing worsethan expected for accessing a desktop over a network though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID BENTLEY" To: Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 7:34 AM Subject: vino causing high processor usage > Just gave vino a try on fc5test3 and found that using > vino on the machine by > enabling it in remote desktop has rather a detrimental > effect on system > performace as compared with how it was in FC4. > > When idle just viewing the remote destop with nothing > else but system-monitor > running the idle usge on my AMD Athalon 1200 machine > goes up quite alarmingly > to about 50% and the system slows to a crawl as a > result, previously in FC4 > on the same hardware this was not evident. > > Is anyone else seeing high processor usage when vino > is in use. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Fri Feb 24 00:02:00 2006 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:02:00 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails Message-ID: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> Hi, not sure if this is the right place: On FC5test3 with Xair (all updates as of today) DRM fails strangely: | [ralph at logout ~]$ glxinfo | name of display: :0.0 | libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted) | libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering | display: :0 screen: 0 | direct rendering: No When "straceing" glxinfo, I see the following: | stat64("/dev/dri", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=60, ...}) = 0 | stat64("/dev/dri/card0", {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0600, st_rdev=makedev(226, 0), | ...}) = 0 | open("/dev/dri/card0", O_RDWR) = 4 | ioctl(4, DECODER_SET_PICTURE, 0xbf96c3e0) = -1 EACCES (Permission | denied) | ioctl(4, DECODER_GET_CAPABILITIES, 0xbf96c3e4) = 0 | ioctl(4, DECODER_GET_CAPABILITIES, 0xbf96c3e4) = 0 | close(4) = 0 | geteuid32() = 500 | stat64("/dev/dri", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=60, ...}) = 0 | stat64("/dev/dri/card1", 0xbf96c200) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or | directory) | geteuid32() = 500 | stat64("/dev/dri", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=60, ...}) = 0 | stat64("/dev/dri/card2", 0xbf96c200) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or | directory) | geteuid32() = 500 | stat64("/dev/dri", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=60, ...}) = 0 | stat64("/dev/dri/card3", 0xbf96c200) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or | directory) [...] | stat64("/dev/dri", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=60, ...}) = 0 | stat64("/dev/dri/card253", 0xbf96c200) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or | directory) | geteuid32() = 500 | stat64("/dev/dri", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=60, ...}) = 0 | stat64("/dev/dri/card254", 0xbf96c200) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or | directory) | write(2, "libGL error: open DRM failed (Op"..., 55) = 55 | write(2, "libGL error: reverting to (slow)"..., 52) = 52 | futex(0x78a5a4, FUTEX_WAKE, 2147483647) = 0 So it seems to open the first card at dri/card0, fails with DECODER_SET_PICTURE and then tries all other possibly available cards until it bails out with open DRM failed. TIA, Ralph -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nat101l at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 00:07:50 2006 From: nat101l at gmail.com (Nat Gross) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:07:50 -0500 Subject: FC4 -> FC5t3 notes In-Reply-To: References: <20060223214843.GA1552@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: On 2/23/06, Nat Gross wrote: > ALSO, nfs clients from this server cannot read the nfs mounted dirs. > Although /etc/exports was not changed, and I exported them again from > the fc5t3 machine. After the yum update, this is working ok. BUT, upon logging in (after reboot) I had a nice note on my Gnome desktop that the network connection was lost. I ignored the message. The lan IS working. > Also, my external usb 2.0 drive needs some coaxing to work. It has 3 > partitions, and they show up differently on the Gnome desktop upon > every boot, and dont show up at all on the kde desktop. It does some > weird stuff when unmounting via the gui. But I'll wait after the yum > update is complete to verify again. This is still the same. Although, the files are there, the names of the mounts just change in the browser, appear and dissappear from the desktop, things like that. -nat From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Fri Feb 24 00:16:09 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:16:09 -0500 Subject: Booting from USB DVD broken? (FC5T3) Message-ID: <43FE5049.1050007@insight.rr.com> I seem to remember someone posting to the list regarding problems with installing from a USB interfaced DVD reader/writer. I could not find the previous post. I did however find the problem when attempting to install FC5T3 on two different SBC systems using a Memorex DVD reader/writer. I am able to install the FC5T2 installation from DVD. I checked the burned DVD using the USB DVD recorder/player and it passed the media test. The FC5T5 install fails in both GUI and text modes. FC5T2 installs fine on the same computers and with the same DVD device and brand of blank DVD's used for the burn. I filed a bug report but I thought I'd ask if others are having similar failures and what boot options could be issued to bypass the recently introduced error, if any workarounds available. Jim From nat101l at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 00:21:24 2006 From: nat101l at gmail.com (Nat Gross) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:21:24 -0500 Subject: fc5t3 gui installer "off screen" In-Reply-To: <1140737412.3701.14.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> References: <1140737412.3701.14.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: On 2/23/06, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 18:27 -0500, Nat Gross wrote: > > On my Samsung 213T lcd screen, the key installer options ( > > ) were nowhere on the screen (or off the screen, even > > if I tried moving the image via the screen hardware menu). It was a > > good thing it was from a a dvd iso, because the only thing I saw was > > the huge logo, sometimes a progress bar, and sometimes some > > instruction to hit a key, but that key-icon was not visible, and I had > > to guess the default setting or used alt+key hoping that it will > > 'take' and not cancel the install. > > What video chip is in your machine? Intel 82845 G/GL Brookdale > > Please excuse me for not using bugzilla. I do not have experience with > > that creature. > > bugzilla isn't that difficult to use, and by not doing so, it makes it a > lot easier for reports to be lost (my memory is lossy while bugzilla is > always there to haunt me :-) True. But its about 15 minutes of searching, per report, to see if anything similiar was filed. I agree that I should be using it, hence my request to be excused. -nat From icon at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 24 00:32:47 2006 From: icon at fedoraproject.org (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:32:47 -0500 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> ? 23/02/06 05:57 PM, DAVID BENTLEY a ?crit: > Since yesterdays updates I am seeing a popup saying > that the network is > disconnected but it isn't any idea which component > could be causing this > so that a bug report can be raised against it. That would be NetworkManager. BTW, the side-effect of compiling in libnotify is that now NetworkManager pulls in pango and with it much of X. Regards, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev McGill University WSG Montr?al, Qu?bec From nutello at sweetness.com Fri Feb 24 00:32:39 2006 From: nutello at sweetness.com (Rudi Chiarito) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:32:39 +0100 Subject: Bling! In-Reply-To: <1140624705.2464.17.camel@halflap> References: <1139457949.7252.51.camel@halflap> <1140571132.8080.7.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> <1140624705.2464.17.camel@halflap> Message-ID: <20060224003239.GD29177@plain.rackshack.net> On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 11:11:45AM -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > have enough texture memory or something? What resolution are you > running at? What happens if you lower your resolution? I'd suggest experimenting with a lower depth, too. On the one system I tried it on, 1600x1200x24 resulted in a mostly white screen, while 16bit worked, although I could still see noticeable tearing while dragging windows. Has anyone tried killing Nautilus with the compositing manager enabled? Now that's an interesting and probably unexpected effect. Another question since we're at it: are there reasons why this should not work with a dualhead setup? Of course Xinerama is mutually exclusive with DRI, but I am wondering if there are going to be other limitations, too. -- Rudi From johnp at redhat.com Fri Feb 24 00:48:45 2006 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:48:45 -0500 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> filed as bug #182685. On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 19:32 -0500, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > ? 23/02/06 05:57 PM, DAVID BENTLEY a ?crit: > > Since yesterdays updates I am seeing a popup saying > > that the network is > > disconnected but it isn't any idea which component > > could be causing this > > so that a bug report can be raised against it. > > That would be NetworkManager. > > BTW, the side-effect of compiling in libnotify is that now > NetworkManager pulls in pango and with it much of X. nm-applet should be the only app linking to libnotify which already pulls in pango and much of X. -- John (J5) Palmieri From katzj at redhat.com Fri Feb 24 00:56:51 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:56:51 -0500 Subject: fc5t3 gui installer "off screen" In-Reply-To: References: <1140737412.3701.14.camel@orodruin.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140742611.6263.1.camel@bree.local.net> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 19:21 -0500, Nat Gross wrote: > On 2/23/06, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 18:27 -0500, Nat Gross wrote: > > > On my Samsung 213T lcd screen, the key installer options ( > > > ) were nowhere on the screen (or off the screen, even > > > if I tried moving the image via the screen hardware menu). It was a > > > good thing it was from a a dvd iso, because the only thing I saw was > > > the huge logo, sometimes a progress bar, and sometimes some > > > instruction to hit a key, but that key-icon was not visible, and I had > > > to guess the default setting or used alt+key hoping that it will > > > 'take' and not cancel the install. > > > > What video chip is in your machine? > Intel 82845 G/GL Brookdale Okay, then I fixed this yesterday :) Jeremy From pb at partha.com Fri Feb 24 01:02:08 2006 From: pb at partha.com (Partha Bagchi) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:02:08 -0500 Subject: Attention: Proprietary video driver users (ATI, Nvidia, etc.) In-Reply-To: References: <43FD0AC0.2090702@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43FE5B10.3090301@partha.com> Neal Becker wrote: > Speaking of DRI, I have an ATI 200M. Using clean install of xorg driver, I > see this: > > (WW) RADEON(0): Enabling DRM support > > [...] > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) > [ repeat 255 times ...] > (II) RADEON(0): [drm] drmOpen failed > (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. > > I think I mentioned this here before, and IIRC someone else said they have > exactly the same result. Is this expected behavior? > > /sbin/lsmod > Module Size Used by > radeon 141665 0 > drm 117481 1 radeon > > drm is loaded, but there are no /dev/dri/ > > I am glad you confirmed this since I was planning to try it again to see if the radeon drive could do DRI. You and I have identical machines btw. :) From nat101l at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 01:01:12 2006 From: nat101l at gmail.com (Nat Gross) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:01:12 -0500 Subject: FC4 -> FC5t3 notes In-Reply-To: References: <20060223214843.GA1552@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: On 2/23/06, Nat Gross wrote: > On 2/23/06, Nat Gross wrote: > > > Also, my external usb 2.0 drive needs some coaxing to work. It has 3 > > partitions, and they show up differently on the Gnome desktop upon > > every boot, and dont show up at all on the kde desktop. It does some > > weird stuff when unmounting via the gui. But I'll wait after the yum > > update is complete to verify again. > This is still the same. Although, the files are there, the names of > the mounts just change in the browser, appear and dissappear from the > desktop, things like that. Part of the problem (not the entire problem) is that FC4 had created 'usbdisk1' 2 & 3 in /media, wheras FC5 labels em ''disk-1". I deleted the [empty] usbdisk folders. Maybe it will help clear things up a bit. -nat From icon at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 24 01:03:20 2006 From: icon at fedoraproject.org (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:03:20 -0500 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> ? 23/02/06 07:48 PM, John (J5) Palmieri a ?crit: >> BTW, the side-effect of compiling in libnotify is that now >> NetworkManager pulls in pango and with it much of X. > > nm-applet should be the only app linking to libnotify which already > pulls in pango and much of X. icon at protee:[~]$ rpm -q --requires NetworkManager | grep notify libnotify >= 0.3 Probably a packaging bug? -- Konstantin Ryabitsev McGill University WSG Montr?al, Qu?bec From michael.favia at insitesinc.com Fri Feb 24 02:27:53 2006 From: michael.favia at insitesinc.com (Michael Favia) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:27:53 -0600 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <43FE6F29.9060807@insitesinc.com> Axel Thimm wrote: > I was about to submit a bug report that neither does the installer > simply allow my to throw the full contents of the DVD onto my disk > anymore, nor do any of my kickstart files work with FC5 anymore, when > I found that this was not a bug or a temporary shortcoming, but was > done on purpose (at least according to a post by R. Sundaram which > sounded quite authoritative). Indeed. > It can't be sane to force a user to have to select the bits from the > CDs/DVDs. The majority of the users want to get the beast on their > system and see what's up with it. The older generation like me browse > the man pages and /usr/share/doc, the younger use the graphical > menus. Neither want to start poking with depsolvers into rpm metadata > for fishing interesting software and play CD jokey afterwards. Actually this is exactly what i do when i install a new distro these days. Be it ubuntu or fedora i open up a cli/gui to interrogate the repos and have a looksee. The benefit being that you only need 1 install disc and you you can see what else is worth the bandwidth. Modern gui tools even break it down a number of ways for you complete with descriptions and dependencies required. So i can make an educated decision if amarok is worth all the kde baggage or eclipse is worth having to install tomcat5. I'm not saying there aren't any valid reasons for an install everything option im just saying I don't use it. But then again i'm part of the group that apparently doesnt exist at all to begin with. -mf From jon.nettleton at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 02:35:36 2006 From: jon.nettleton at gmail.com (Jon Nettleton) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:35:36 -0500 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> Message-ID: <1140748536.2216.1.camel@averatec> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 01:02 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Hi, not sure if this is the right place: > > On FC5test3 with Xair (all updates as of today) DRM fails strangely: > > | [ralph at logout ~]$ glxinfo > | name of display: :0.0 > | libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted) > | libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering > | display: :0 screen: 0 > | direct rendering: No > > When "straceing" glxinfo, I see the following: > > | stat64("/dev/dri", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=60, ...}) = 0 > | stat64("/dev/dri/card0", {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0600, st_rdev=makedev(226, 0), > | ...}) = 0 > | open("/dev/dri/card0", O_RDWR) = 4 > | ioctl(4, DECODER_SET_PICTURE, 0xbf96c3e0) = -1 EACCES (Permission > | denied) > | ioctl(4, DECODER_GET_CAPABILITIES, 0xbf96c3e4) = 0 > | ioctl(4, DECODER_GET_CAPABILITIES, 0xbf96c3e4) = 0 > | close(4) = 0 > | geteuid32() = 500 > | stat64("/dev/dri", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=60, ...}) = 0 > | stat64("/dev/dri/card1", 0xbf96c200) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or > | directory) > | geteuid32() = 500 > | stat64("/dev/dri", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=60, ...}) = 0 > | stat64("/dev/dri/card2", 0xbf96c200) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or > | directory) > | geteuid32() = 500 > | stat64("/dev/dri", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=60, ...}) = 0 > | stat64("/dev/dri/card3", 0xbf96c200) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or > | directory) > > [...] > > | stat64("/dev/dri", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=60, ...}) = 0 > | stat64("/dev/dri/card253", 0xbf96c200) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or > | directory) > | geteuid32() = 500 > | stat64("/dev/dri", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=60, ...}) = 0 > | stat64("/dev/dri/card254", 0xbf96c200) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or > | directory) > | write(2, "libGL error: open DRM failed (Op"..., 55) = 55 > | write(2, "libGL error: reverting to (slow)"..., 52) = 52 > | futex(0x78a5a4, FUTEX_WAKE, 2147483647) = 0 > > So it seems to open the first card at dri/card0, fails with > DECODER_SET_PICTURE and then tries all other possibly available cards > until it bails out with open DRM failed. > > TIA, > > Ralph > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list I have the same problem. My video card is a Via KM400. I am running the openchrome drivers, and dri under the normal X server works fine. I am hoping to test out the eye candy soon. ;-) Jon From vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl Thu Feb 23 23:59:43 2006 From: vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl (Horst von Brand) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:59:43 -0300 Subject: xemacs performance unacceptable In-Reply-To: Message from Neal Becker of "Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:11:12 CDT." Message-ID: <200602232359.k1NNxhon011312@pincoya.inf.utfsm.cl> Neal Becker wrote: > With most recent rawhide updates, performance of editing using xemacs is > unacceptably slow, because with each character insert, X keeps flashing the > "busy" pointer. Not seen here... What kind of files? Very large, perhaps; or a RAM-challenged machine? Costly mode in use? -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513 From mgleahy at golden.net Fri Feb 24 04:14:10 2006 From: mgleahy at golden.net (Mike Leahy) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:14:10 -0500 Subject: hibernate/suspend? Message-ID: <43FE8812.6020405@golden.net> Orion, Thanks for the tip...that definitely got rid of the end_request errors. As for hibernate itself not working, I've been able to determine that if I have my PCMCIA wireless card connected when I run pm-hibernate, it hangs. This is a linksys WPC54GS, with a broadcom 4306 chipset. Although the FC5 kernels include a bcm43xx driver for this chipset, I have yet to get that to work properly. Instead, I've been working with ndiswrapper to run the native windows driver. I find that if I'm careful, and I disconnect and unplug the card, the hibernate process runs fine. Otherwise, I'm toast. Has anyone else had a similar experience like this? Mike Thanks again for your help, Mike Orion Poplawski wrotea; > > Mike Leahy wrote: >> > > >> > > Hello list, >> > > >> > > >> > > I installed FC5T3 yestereday. I found that I was able to >> > >successfully hibernate/restart before running any updates. However, it >> > >took about 3 or 4 minutes to complete, partly because of some errors I >> > >get when the screen first goes blank...something that looks like: >> > > >> > > "end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, ". >> > > >> > > >> > > Last time I asked about this, somebody said it was an issue with >> > >the kernel. > > > >Remove fd0 from /boot/grub/device.map, should fix that I think. From ellson at research.att.com Fri Feb 24 05:08:29 2006 From: ellson at research.att.com (John Ellson) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:08:29 -0500 Subject: rawhide error 20060223 updating beagle In-Reply-To: <1140706145.4956.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140706145.4956.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43FE94CD.5040503@research.att.com> Brian Millett wrote: > Error running a post script for beagle. > > Updating : beagle ##################### [ 42/165] > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.75111: line 8: > cd: /usr/lib64/firefox-1.5.0.1/extensions: No such file or directory > unzip: cannot find or > open /usr/lib64/beagle/beagle.xpi, /usr/lib64/beagle/beagle.xpi.zip > or /usr/lib64/beagle/beagle.xpi.ZIP. > grep: beagle-extension/install.rdf: No such file or directory > mv: target `' is not a directory: No such file or directory > error: %trigger(beagle-0.2.1-11.i386) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 > > Well I'm running a toshiba celeron laptop (Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(R) > CPU 2.00GHz). > > I don't even have a /usr/lib64. > > Sounds like BZ# 182569, except I actually did have a /usr/lib64 when I checked. John From islifefun1975 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 24 05:29:35 2006 From: islifefun1975 at yahoo.com (Josh) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:29:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Booting from USB DVD broken? (FC5T3) In-Reply-To: <43FE5049.1050007@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20060224052935.26438.qmail@web34011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Jim, I had problems with FC5T3 installation from external USB DVDRW drive {"FC5T3 terse install report with one install bug?). I was able to boot the FC5T4 CD1 (seem to take forever) but anaconda segfaults during second stage of installation (after media check..) I later installed it using an internal drive. Thanks for filing the bug report. Josh Jim Cornette wrote: I seem to remember someone posting to the list regarding problems with installing from a USB interfaced DVD reader/writer. I could not find the previous post. I did however find the problem when attempting to install FC5T3 on two different SBC systems using a Memorex DVD reader/writer. I am able to install the FC5T2 installation from DVD. I checked the burned DVD using the USB DVD recorder/player and it passed the media test. The FC5T5 install fails in both GUI and text modes. FC5T2 installs fine on the same computers and with the same DVD device and brand of blank DVD's used for the burn. I filed a bug report but I thought I'd ask if others are having similar failures and what boot options could be issued to bypass the recently introduced error, if any workarounds available. Jim --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gnomeuser at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 06:22:10 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:22:10 +0100 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1140762131.2162.3.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> tor, 23 02 2006 kl. 20:03 -0500, skrev Konstantin Ryabitsev: > ? 23/02/06 07:48 PM, John (J5) Palmieri a ?crit: > >> BTW, the side-effect of compiling in libnotify is that now > >> NetworkManager pulls in pango and with it much of X. > > > > nm-applet should be the only app linking to libnotify which already > > pulls in pango and much of X. > > icon at protee:[~]$ rpm -q --requires NetworkManager | grep notify > libnotify >= 0.3 > > Probably a packaging bug? A more grave problem is that on my machine at least it fires up the pop up before the applet has been placed so it's often slightly off screen and it is the first thing the user sees. Hardly desirable behaviour to display a broken error message as the first thing. - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From thedave at ix.netcom.com Fri Feb 24 07:20:16 2006 From: thedave at ix.netcom.com (Dave Atkins) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:20:16 -0600 Subject: Booting from USB DVD broken? (FC5T3) In-Reply-To: <43FE5049.1050007@insight.rr.com> References: <43FE5049.1050007@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1140765616.4303.11.camel@buckaroo> I'd like to confirm this. I've tried many combinations of configurations, but I simply cannot install on my USB DVD based system. The same media worked fine on two IDE-DVD systems. Also, I have noticed in the media selection screen (Local CD, Local hd, etc.) that it fails to find the CD the first couple of times. But, if I give a little pause before I press enter, it seems to advance OK. The only error I get on V-console 3 is: Unable to load mousedev, but I think that's a red herring. D. On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 19:16 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote: > I seem to remember someone posting to the list regarding problems with > installing from a USB interfaced DVD reader/writer. I could not find the > previous post. I did however find the problem when attempting to install > FC5T3 on two different SBC systems using a Memorex DVD reader/writer. > I am able to install the FC5T2 installation from DVD. I checked the > burned DVD using the USB DVD recorder/player and it passed the media test. > The FC5T5 install fails in both GUI and text modes. FC5T2 installs fine > on the same computers and with the same DVD device and brand of blank > DVD's used for the burn. > I filed a bug report but I thought I'd ask if others are having similar > failures and what boot options could be issued to bypass the recently > introduced error, if any workarounds available. > > Jim > From islifefun1975 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 24 06:24:33 2006 From: islifefun1975 at yahoo.com (Josh) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:24:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Today's g-p-m update fails Message-ID: <20060224062433.79675.qmail@web34004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello all, While updating FC5T3 on x96-64 desktop with package updater, g-p-m fails with pop-up window "The Application 'gnome-power-manager' has quit unexpectedly" The rest of the updates installed successfully. Had to click "Restart application" button, Everything seems to be normal. Anyone else bumped into this? Josh --------------------------------- Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? 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URL: From thedave at ix.netcom.com Fri Feb 24 08:14:59 2006 From: thedave at ix.netcom.com (Dave Atkins) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:14:59 -0600 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <43FB0657.7040508@fedoraproject.org> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> <8767947e0602171634x44b8072dh350ea94ecda6cbb0@mail.gmail.com> <43FB05D6.3090707@mchsi.com> <43FB0657.7040508@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1140768899.4303.17.camel@buckaroo> On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 17:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > James Jones wrote: > > >Jonathan Berry wrote: . . . > >Yes, but... wasn't that only added after users raised a major ruckus > >about the imposition of spatial mode? > > > It was previously configurable as GConf key. > > -- > Rahul The Gnome bog-standard answer "Configurable as a GConf key" translates to "not user configurable" for most end users. Whereas, a tick-box in the Nautilus preferences control panel could do the same thing with minimal pain. It seems silly to put all the code in to modify the window behavior, and look-and-feel, and not go the extra 10% to write a means to configure it. D. From buildsys at redhat.com Fri Feb 24 08:23:36 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 03:23:36 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060224 changes Message-ID: <200602240823.k1O8Na44009103@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: anaconda-10.92.10-1 ------------------- * Thu Feb 23 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.92.10-1 - more bogl removal (dcantrel) - make the exception dumping less braindead about things we don't want dumped (clumens) - add backtrace handler to anaconda (pjones) - fix warnings with new yum in pkgorder - make conditional packages on deps work (pnasrat) - suppress some warnings (dcantrel) - text mode language fixes (dcantrel) * Thu Feb 23 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.92.9-1 - Fix text mode traceback (dcantrel) - Skip a few more things in traceback dumps - Attempt to fix pkgorder so that we require less CDs for "normal" installs bluez-libs-2.25-1 ----------------- * Thu Feb 23 2006 David Woodhouse - 2.25-1 - Update to bluez-libs 2.25 cpuspeed-1:1.2.1-1.33 --------------------- * Thu Feb 23 2006 Dave Jones - Fix broken init script. (Alexandre Oliva) [#182691] Taking ugly shell script to the next level. evolution-data-server-1.5.91-1 ------------------------------ * Tue Feb 14 2006 David Malcolm - 1.5.91-1 - 1.5.91 gnome-applets-1:2.13.4-4 ------------------------ * Thu Feb 23 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.4-4 - Make the stock ticker work with gcc 4.1 (#179528) kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 ------------------------ * Thu Feb 23 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc4-git6 libbtctl-0.6.0-5 ---------------- * Thu Feb 23 2006 Matthias Clasen 0.6.0-5 - try a fix for (#179413) * Thu Feb 23 2006 Harald Hoyer 0.6.0-2 - rebuild * Thu Feb 16 2006 Harald Hoyer 0.6.0-1 - version 0.6.0 xen-3.0.1-0.20060208.fc5.3 -------------------------- * Thu Feb 23 2006 Jeremy Katz - 3.0.1-0.20060208.fc5.3 - add patch to ensure we get a unique fifo for boot loader (#182328) - don't try to read the whole disk if we can't find a partition table with pygrub - fix restarting of domains (#179677) Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.i386 requires libopenobex.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.i386 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.i386 requires tomcat4 Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.ia64 requires libopenobex.so.1()(64bit) rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ia64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ia64 requires tomcat4 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.ppc requires libopenobex.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc requires tomcat4 Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.ppc64 requires libopenobex.so.1()(64bit) struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc64 requires tomcat4 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390 requires tomcat4 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390x requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390x requires tomcat4 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.i386 requires libopenobex.so.1 libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.x86_64 requires libopenobex.so.1()(64bit) struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.x86_64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.x86_64 requires tomcat4 From che666 at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 08:51:54 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:51:54 +0100 Subject: hibernate/suspend? In-Reply-To: <43FE8812.6020405@golden.net> References: <43FE8812.6020405@golden.net> Message-ID: 2006/2/24, Mike Leahy : > Orion, > > Thanks for the tip...that definitely got rid of the end_request errors. > > As for hibernate itself not working, I've been able to determine that > if I have my PCMCIA wireless card connected when I run pm-hibernate, it > hangs. This is a linksys WPC54GS, with a broadcom 4306 chipset. > Although the FC5 kernels include a bcm43xx driver for this chipset, I > have yet to get that to work properly. Instead, I've been working with > ndiswrapper to run the native windows driver. I find that if I'm > careful, and I disconnect and unplug the card, the hibernate process > runs fine. Otherwise, I'm toast. Has anyone else had a similar > experience like this? > > Mike > > Thanks again for your help, > Mike > > Orion Poplawski wrotea; > > > Mike Leahy wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Hello list, > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > I installed FC5T3 yestereday. I found that I was able to > >> > >successfully hibernate/restart before running any updates. > However, it > >> > >took about 3 or 4 minutes to complete, partly because of some > errors I > >> > >get when the screen first goes blank...something that looks like: > >> > > > >> > > "end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, ". > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Last time I asked about this, somebody said it was an issue with > >> > >the kernel. > > > > > >Remove fd0 from /boot/grub/device.map, should fix that I think. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > for me with current rawhide state suspend to disk works (thinkpad r51 centrino..) and suspend to ram work just fine with acpitool but gnome-power-manager doesent show the options as of today. regards, Rudolf Kastl From islifefun1975 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 24 09:13:31 2006 From: islifefun1975 at yahoo.com (Josh) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:13:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Booting from USB DVD broken? (FC5T3) In-Reply-To: <1140765616.4303.11.camel@buckaroo> Message-ID: <20060224091331.3363.qmail@web34005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In the media selection screen, selecting back seems to detect the Fedora CD on the external drive. Also, on conseole 6, anaconda segfault message is displayed. Josh --- Dave Atkins wrote: > I'd like to confirm this. > > I've tried many combinations of configurations, but > I simply cannot > install on my USB DVD based system. > > The same media worked fine on two IDE-DVD systems. > > Also, I have noticed in the media selection screen > (Local CD, Local hd, > etc.) that it fails to find the CD the first couple > of times. But, if I > give a little pause before I press enter, it seems > to advance OK. > > The only error I get on V-console 3 is: Unable to > load mousedev, but I > think that's a red herring. > > D. > > > On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 19:16 -0500, Jim Cornette > wrote: > > I seem to remember someone posting to the list > regarding problems with > > installing from a USB interfaced DVD > reader/writer. I could not find the > > previous post. I did however find the problem when > attempting to install > > FC5T3 on two different SBC systems using a > Memorex DVD reader/writer. > > I am able to install the FC5T2 installation from > DVD. I checked the > > burned DVD using the USB DVD recorder/player and > it passed the media test. > > The FC5T5 install fails in both GUI and text > modes. FC5T2 installs fine > > on the same computers and with the same DVD device > and brand of blank > > DVD's used for the burn. > > I filed a bug report but I thought I'd ask if > others are having similar > > failures and what boot options could be issued to > bypass the recently > > introduced error, if any workarounds available. > > > > Jim > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From fedora at email.glotur.kz Fri Feb 24 08:48:16 2006 From: fedora at email.glotur.kz (fedora) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:48:16 +0600 Subject: FC5T3 crash bootloader install Message-ID: <446869287.20060224144816@email.glotur.kz> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1253, in handleRenderCallback self.currentWindow.renderCallback() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/iw/progress_gui.py", line 245, in renderCallback self.intf.icw.nextClicked() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 951, in nextClicked self.dispatch.gotoNext() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 146, in gotoNext self.moveStep() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 217, in moveStep rc = apply(func, self.bindArgs(args)) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/bootloader.py", line 178, in writeBootloader justConfigFile, intf) File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 1190, in write justConfig | (not self.useGrubVal)) File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 746, in writeGrub f.write('# root %s\n' % self.grubbyPartitionName(bootDevs[0])) File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 989, in grubbyPartitionName return "(%s,%d)" % (self.grubbyDiskName(name), partNum) File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 984, in grubbyDiskName return "hd%d" % self.drivelist.index(name) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list Local variables in innermost frame: self: name: sda HELP From fedora at email.glotur.kz Fri Feb 24 08:58:14 2006 From: fedora at email.glotur.kz (fedora) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:58:14 +0600 Subject: FC5T3 crashed during install of the bootloader Message-ID: <11610492776.20060224145814@email.glotur.kz> FC5T3 crashed during install of the bootloader ---------------------------------------------- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1253, in handleRenderCallback self.currentWindow.renderCallback() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/iw/progress_gui.py", line 245, in renderCallback self.intf.icw.nextClicked() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 951, in nextClicked self.dispatch.gotoNext() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 146, in gotoNext self.moveStep() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 217, in moveStep rc = apply(func, self.bindArgs(args)) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/bootloader.py", line 178, in writeBootloader justConfigFile, intf) File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 1190, in write justConfig | (not self.useGrubVal)) File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 746, in writeGrub f.write('# root %s\n' % self.grubbyPartitionName(bootDevs[0])) File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 989, in grubbyPartitionName return "(%s,%d)" % (self.grubbyDiskName(name), partNum) File "/usr/lib/booty/bootloaderInfo.py", line 984, in grubbyDiskName return "hd%d" % self.drivelist.index(name) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list Local variables in innermost frame: self: name: sda -- Best regards, From mharris at mharris.ca Fri Feb 24 09:36:28 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:36:28 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 I can't find libX11.a and libXau.a in libX11-devel.i386 In-Reply-To: <43FDA639.4000609@tiscali.it> References: <43FDA639.4000609@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <43FED39C.40209@mharris.ca> Lorenzo Fiorini wrote: > I'm trying to build my apps under FC5T3 ( my main env is FC4 ) but I > can't find those static libraries. > > I have installed these: > > libX11-devel.i386 1.0.0-2.2 installed > libX11.i386 1.0.0-2.2 installed > > Any suggestion? We no longer ship static X libraries. Various other static libraries have also been removed from the OS. All developers/users are strongly encouraged to dynamically link all of their applications in the future. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Fri Feb 24 09:45:41 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:45:41 -0500 Subject: Attention: Proprietary video driver users (ATI, Nvidia, etc.) In-Reply-To: <1140705297.3803.158.camel@pmac.infradead.org> References: <43FD0AC0.2090702@redhat.com> <1140705297.3803.158.camel@pmac.infradead.org> Message-ID: <43FED5C5.5090407@mharris.ca> David Woodhouse wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 20:07 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > >>Both ATI and Nvidia, and perhaps even other 3rd party drivers out there >>come in some form of tarball or equivalent form from the particular >>vendor. > > > The Intel driver is worse than that, in some ways. In that case you > don't even need to seek out and install separate software; a clean > Fedora installation out of the box will run binary-only code supplied by > your board manufacturer, without really giving you much clue that it's > doing so. > > I recently purchased a board with Intel i915 graphics, because I was led > to believe that it had a fully open source driver -- and now I've found > that all the mode setup is in binary-only code. So I can't make it do > the PAL output modes for which I purchased it. Yeah, that's a situation that continues to suck bigtime. The i[89]resolution utilities hack around it in some cases, but it's still just an ugly hack, and doesn't work all the time. Oddly enough though, the i810 driver is currently the most video vendor supported driver. Hopefully Intel will change their tune about mode programming documentation in the future. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Fri Feb 24 09:48:09 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:48:09 -0500 Subject: Attention: Proprietary video driver users (ATI, Nvidia, etc.) In-Reply-To: <20060223143934.GA4138@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <43FD0AC0.2090702@redhat.com> <1140705297.3803.158.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20060223143934.GA4138@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43FED659.3030200@mharris.ca> Alan Cox wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 02:34:57PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote: > >>Fedora installation out of the box will run binary-only code supplied by >>your board manufacturer, without really giving you much clue that it's >>doing so. > > > Correct. Each intel board has board specific analogue circuitry and interfaces > which are driven via a BIOS interface. X would need a driver for each > motherboard (and potentially each board rev) to do anything else Yes, the driver may need to become more complicated in order to do direct mode programming, however users of other proprietary OSs do have video drivers that give them what they want/need, so it is possible in theory to have OSS drivers that do the same. There's no reason it needs to be multiple separate drivers however, conditional codepaths and autodetection within a single driver should be able to handle it, at least in theory. All smoke until Intel does something that allows the situation to change though. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Fri Feb 24 09:51:56 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:51:56 -0500 Subject: 3dfx dri problems In-Reply-To: <43FC18BA.2050405@rpi.edu> References: <43FC18BA.2050405@rpi.edu> Message-ID: <43FED73C.3080402@mharris.ca> George Schneeloch wrote: > I'm using Fedora Core 5 Test 2 on my desktop with a Voodoo 3 3000 agp > card. /var/log/Xorg.0.log said that my 3dfx card won't work with DRI > unless it was set to a 16-bit depth. I changed my DefaultDepth in > /etc/X11/xorg.conf to 16 and I got this message from /var/log/Xorg.0.log: We haven't provided DRI support for tdfx in Fedora Core for several OS releases, although the tdfx_dri module may have shipped anyway. You need both tdfx_dri.so and Glide3. Glide3 was removed from the OS in FC1 or maybe even RHL 9 or so. Don't remember exactly when it was. I think it was available in Fedora Extras for a while, but I'm not sure if it is still there or not. If someone can confirm weither tdfx_dri + Glide3 still works or not, we may be able to consider re-including the tdfx_dri.so module, however Glide3 probably wont be returning to Fedora Core. Having said that, as long as there's a volunteer to maintain it still, it could theoretically live in Extras as long as it continues to work. Banshee and Voodoo 3 hardware only supports 3D acceleration in 16bit depth, which is why you must use 16bit depth to get 3D. The latter cards support it in 24bit depth also IIRC. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Fri Feb 24 09:55:33 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:55:33 -0500 Subject: FC5T3 freeze (x86_64 + NVidia 6600) In-Reply-To: <43FE10FB.5020303@yahoo.co.uk> References: <43FE10FB.5020303@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <43FED815.7010008@mharris.ca> Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > Hi, > > After fresh install on AMD X2 3800+ (installed x86_64 release) / NVidia > 6600 and eventually figuring out that ddcprobe segfaults (so I turned > kudzu off / this issue is apparently fixed in devel) I got FC5T3 working. > > Left for night the machine froze after 2.5 hours running - I was > welcomed with frozen screensaver and totally hang up OS (no way to ssh > to it, keyboard does not react to Num Lock). > > I suspect the nv driver (it's a pristine installation, no tweaking > whatsoever) since I used to get X garbled using Kubuntu on this machine > using it (however proprietary drivers packaged for Kubuntu work ok). > > What info can help solve this issue (I have collected some logs)? > Against what should I file a bug? Best thing to do with any/all "nv" driver bugs is file a bug report at: http://bugs.freedesktop.org in the xorg product, component "nVidia (open)" That goes straight to Aaron Plattner from Nvidia, who is currently maintaining the open source nv driver (along with Mark V.) Hope this helps. TTYL -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From gnomeuser at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 10:27:33 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:27:33 +0100 Subject: SELinux breaks privoxy' with regards to resolving? Message-ID: <1140776855.2235.1.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Hi List Is anyone else seeing this rather nasty policy violation that causes privoxy to be unable to resolve when SELinux is enabled? Sounds identical to this bug filed against FC4: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=166277 - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Fri Feb 24 10:40:29 2006 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:40:29 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> Message-ID: <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Hi, not sure if this is the right place: > > On FC5test3 with Xair (all updates as of today) DRM fails strangely: > > | [ralph at logout ~]$ glxinfo > | name of display: :0.0 > | libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted) > | libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering > | display: :0 screen: 0 > | direct rendering: No Errm, yes. Worst possible bug report :) Xair is at xorg-x11-server-Xair-1.0.0.0.2.20060207-5 The card is detected as Chipset: "ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP)" (ChipID = 0x4c66) The xorg.log tells me that drm gets installed successfully. Regards, Ralph -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Fri Feb 24 10:41:51 2006 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:41:51 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> Message-ID: <20060224104151.GF4616@br-online.de> Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Errm, yes. Worst possible bug report :) Talking to myself: SELinux is turned off. Ralph -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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With SELinux off, I am able to get this Xair stuff running on my Radeon 7000 - it's quite slow but today a new 9250 should be arriving just for this kind of testing. - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Fri Feb 24 11:51:54 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 06:51:54 -0500 Subject: Booting from USB DVD broken? (FC5T3) In-Reply-To: <20060224052935.26438.qmail@web34011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060224052935.26438.qmail@web34011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43FEF35A.8080008@insight.rr.com> Josh wrote: > Hello Jim, > > I had problems with FC5T3 installation from external USB DVDRW drive > {"FC5T3 terse install report with one install bug?). > > I was able to boot the FC5T4 CD1 (seem to take forever) but anaconda > segfaults during second stage of installation (after media check..) > > I later installed it using an internal drive. > > Thanks for filing the bug report. > > Josh > Thanks for the confirmation Josh and also Dave. I settled with re-installing FC5T2 on the computer which installs FC5T2 fine. The computers I am trying to install on are pretty small single board computers and stringing an IDE cable to an internal DVD recorder/player is highly impractical. It is good knowledge that using an internal DVD reader/recorder works. This pretty much narrows down the problem to USB DVD-RW drives. I could not believe that using the USB drive checked the media successfully but bombed shortly into th installation. Jim -- "One lawyer can steal more than a hundred men with guns." -- The Godfather From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Fri Feb 24 12:17:00 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:17:00 -0500 Subject: Why is xscreensaver removed in favor of gnome-screensaver In-Reply-To: <1140768899.4303.17.camel@buckaroo> References: <43F5230F.2070205@sktc.net> <604aa7910602161724u11fb4facq66c74d5ef854720d@mail.gmail.com> <20060217154006.GB27051@redhat.com> <604aa7910602170943p624e3228h965f7460cd17c0e2@mail.gmail.com> <6280325c0602171044v58ddb5d7oed0853a31842bea1@mail.gmail.com> <8767947e0602171634x44b8072dh350ea94ecda6cbb0@mail.gmail.com> <43FB05D6.3090707@mchsi.com> <43FB0657.7040508@fedoraproject.org> <1140768899.4303.17.camel@buckaroo> Message-ID: <43FEF93C.2080209@insight.rr.com> Dave Atkins wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 17:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> James Jones wrote: >> >>> Jonathan Berry wrote: > . . . >>> Yes, but... wasn't that only added after users raised a major ruckus >>> about the imposition of spatial mode? >>> >> It was previously configurable as GConf key. >> >> -- >> Rahul > > The Gnome bog-standard answer "Configurable as a GConf key" translates > to "not user configurable" for most end users. > > Whereas, a tick-box in the Nautilus preferences control panel could do > the same thing with minimal pain. > > It seems silly to put all the code in to modify the window behavior, and > look-and-feel, and not go the extra 10% to write a means to configure > it. > > D. > Gconfig-editor is not even pulled in for default installations. This would make setting the toggles a little bit less user configurable. I re-installed FC5T2 on a computer and did note that at least gnome-screensaver can be toggled off and does not need removed post-install. In fairness, the program does work a little and seems somewhat basic. If you like bare-bones type of applications. Reconfigurability is of course less than desirable. (All, blank, one or none.) Jim From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 24 12:53:07 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:53:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: cannot login back to gnome Message-ID: <20060224125307.34896.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> Dear all, Yesterday, I was showing off Fedora Core 5 Test 2 + some updates to a colleague. I logged off gnome and logged in to KDE and then logged out and tried back to get to gnome. The system did not respond. I can only log on to gnome as root. I want to have both gnome and kde. Please advice. Best Regards, Antonio __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Fri Feb 24 12:57:48 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:57:48 +1100 Subject: Any instructions on how to do a netboot kickstart install on ppc with FC5T3? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43FF02CC.6080801@bigpond.net.au> Orion Poplawski wrote: > I'm pretty new to the ppc architecture and really have no clue how to > start a kickstart install on a ppc Mac via network (PXE? netboot?) > start. I do PXE installs on x86 all the time... I see you are trying to do it on ppc but in case you haven't tried (what works for i386): boot: linux ks=ftp://192.168.2.2/linux/kickstart.cfg You could be booting from CD or boot.iso/rescue.iso... "I no nothing" about pxe boot on Mac! DaveT. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Fri Feb 24 12:58:02 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:58:02 +1100 Subject: Any instructions on how to do a netboot kickstart install on ppc with FC5T3? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43FF02DA.5010307@bigpond.net.au> Orion Poplawski wrote: > I'm pretty new to the ppc architecture and really have no clue how to > start a kickstart install on a ppc Mac via network (PXE? netboot?) > start. I do PXE installs on x86 all the time... I see you are trying to do it on ppc but in case you haven't tried (what works for i386): boot: linux ks=ftp://192.168.2.2/linux/kickstart.cfg You could be booting from CD or boot.iso/rescue.iso... "I no nothing" about pxe boot on Mac! DaveT. From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 24 12:53:59 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:53:59 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060224 changes In-Reply-To: <200602240823.k1O8Na44009103@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602240823.k1O8Na44009103@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0602240453k5ef2dbetf04a669e786c9d50@mail.gmail.com> > Updated Packages: > > anaconda-10.92.10-1 > ------------------- > * Thu Feb 23 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.92.10-1 > - more bogl removal (dcantrel) > - make the exception dumping less braindead about things we don't > want dumped (clumens) > - add backtrace handler to anaconda (pjones) > - fix warnings with new yum in pkgorder > - make conditional packages on deps work (pnasrat) > - suppress some warnings (dcantrel) > - text mode language fixes (dcantrel) > > * Thu Feb 23 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.92.9-1 > - Fix text mode traceback (dcantrel) > - Skip a few more things in traceback dumps > - Attempt to fix pkgorder so that we require less CDs for "normal" installs > *** running anaconda *** While executing Kadischi : Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/anaconda", line 397, in ? signal.signal(signal.SIGSEGV, isys.handleSegv) AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'handleSegv' *** Fatal error: anaconda returned non zero (256) exit code. Aborting execution. Cleaning up temporary files... Done. [root at goorah ~]# rpm -q anaconda anaconda-10.92.10-1 Sounds its broken :( -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From jvian10 at charter.net Fri Feb 24 13:08:08 2006 From: jvian10 at charter.net (Jeff Vian) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:08:08 -0600 Subject: FC5t3 and the nv driver woes Message-ID: <1140786488.25068.117.camel@eagle.lab.net> I just built a brand new machine and installed FC5t3. The nv driver will not work on it. This is a Giga-Byte GA-K8N Pro-SLI mobo with AMD 64 X2 3800+ dual core processor and an eVGA GeForce 6600 PCIe video card. Installing had to be done in text mode because the graphics install was not even partly readable (totally unusable). Text mode had a lot of artifacts, but I was able to use it because I am familiar with what was expected. After getting it installed I can boot in text mode and I tried to get X working. The only way I can is with the vesa driver, and that is not at maximum resolution. The max resolution on my monitor is 1600x1200 but the best I can get from the vesa driver is 1280x1024. If I try to enable the nv driver the screen goes to totally non-readable and thus I am presently quite frustrated with this install. Where do I file a bug? What do I file it against? I assume this would be against xorg. Is that correct? Or would it be the nv driver? So far everything else seems to work well, although I just finished the install so have not done a lot of testing as yet. Jeff From jvian10 at charter.net Fri Feb 24 13:20:44 2006 From: jvian10 at charter.net (Jeff Vian) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:20:44 -0600 Subject: hibernate/suspend? In-Reply-To: References: <43FE32BE.5090306@golden.net> Message-ID: <1140787244.25068.125.camel@eagle.lab.net> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 15:58 -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: > Mike Leahy wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > I installed FC5T3 yestereday. I found that I was able to successfully > > hibernate/restart before running any updates. However, it took about 3 > > or 4 minutes to complete, partly because of some errors I get when the > > screen first goes blank...something that looks like: > > > > "end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, ". > > > > Last time I asked about this, somebody said it was an issue with the > > kernel. > > Remove fd0 from /boot/grub/device.map, should fix that I think. > This seems to be a bug in the install (anaconda). I just did an install on a new machine. It has no floppy drive, and has the bios set to no floppy (although the floppy controller is enabled). The /boot/grub/device.map contains a line such as (fd0) /dev/fd0 for a floppy that is non-existant. Why is that there? It is not there and never was at the time of the install. From zac9 at CDC.GOV Fri Feb 24 13:22:53 2006 From: zac9 at CDC.GOV (Sessoms, Mack) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:22:53 -0500 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <1140778386.3304.0.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060224104151.GF4616@br-online.de> <1140778386.3304.0.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <43FF08AD.3050008@cdc.gov> disabling selinux works for me also. i'm using intel 82865g integrated (i810 driver). effects are cool looking. can someone contact Ray Strode to have the wiki page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/AiglxOnFedora include this tip? David Nielsen wrote: > fre, 24 02 2006 kl. 11:41 +0100, skrev Ralph Angenendt: >> Ralph Angenendt wrote: >>> Errm, yes. Worst possible bug report :) >> Talking to myself: >> >> SELinux is turned off. > > With SELinux off, I am able to get this Xair stuff running on my Radeon > 7000 - it's quite slow but today a new 9250 should be arriving just for > this kind of testing. > > - David -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: zac9.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 211 bytes Desc: not available URL: From che666 at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 13:44:49 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:44:49 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <43FF08AD.3050008@cdc.gov> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060224104151.GF4616@br-online.de> <1140778386.3304.0.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF08AD.3050008@cdc.gov> Message-ID: 2006/2/24, Sessoms, Mack : > disabling selinux works for me also. i'm using intel 82865g integrated > (i810 driver). effects are cool looking. can someone contact Ray Strode > to have the wiki page > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/AiglxOnFedora > include this tip? > > David Nielsen wrote: > > fre, 24 02 2006 kl. 11:41 +0100, skrev Ralph Angenendt: > >> Ralph Angenendt wrote: > >>> Errm, yes. Worst possible bug report :) > >> Talking to myself: > >> > >> SELinux is turned off. > > > > With SELinux off, I am able to get this Xair stuff running on my Radeon > > 7000 - it's quite slow but today a new 9250 should be arriving just for > > this kind of testing. Disabling selinux isnt a solution a solution at all... rather report the problem with bugzilla to get a real solution instead of telling people to turn off important security features. i do not recommend to turn off selinux and turn off important security bits of the system neither for eye candy nor for other tasks/applications. I doubt any fedora developer does want to recommend that either ;). regards, Rudolf Kastl > > > > - David > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > From jvian10 at charter.net Fri Feb 24 13:45:22 2006 From: jvian10 at charter.net (Jeff Vian) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:45:22 -0600 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <1140788722.25068.140.camel@eagle.lab.net> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 00:19 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > I was about to submit a bug report that neither does the installer > simply allow my to throw the full contents of the DVD onto my disk > anymore, nor do any of my kickstart files work with FC5 anymore, when > I found that this was not a bug or a temporary shortcoming, but was > done on purpose (at least according to a post by R. Sundaram which > sounded quite authoritative). > > It can't be sane to force a user to have to select the bits from the > CDs/DVDs. The majority of the users want to get the beast on their > system and see what's up with it. The older generation like me browse > the man pages and /usr/share/doc, the younger use the graphical > menus. Neither want to start poking with depsolvers into rpm metadata > for fishing interesting software and play CD jokey afterwards. > > Please bring @everything or equivalent back. I agree, but with a caveat specified. Everything should not truly be _everything_ !! If I select an English language install, then everything should not dump *all* the other languages onto my system. An everything install should dump everything for the _language chosen_ onto my system. This little selection refinement makes several hundred megabytes difference in install size. aspell, OOo, man pages, etc. are areas of major bloat if it does not limit the selection to honor the language I have selected for my install. From zac9 at CDC.GOV Fri Feb 24 13:49:08 2006 From: zac9 at CDC.GOV (Sessoms, Mack) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:49:08 -0500 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060224104151.GF4616@br-online.de> <1140778386.3304.0.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF08AD.3050008@cdc.gov> Message-ID: <43FF0ED4.9040308@cdc.gov> agreed! Rudolf Kastl wrote: > 2006/2/24, Sessoms, Mack : >> disabling selinux works for me also. i'm using intel 82865g integrated >> (i810 driver). effects are cool looking. can someone contact Ray Strode >> to have the wiki page >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/AiglxOnFedora >> include this tip? >> >> David Nielsen wrote: >>> fre, 24 02 2006 kl. 11:41 +0100, skrev Ralph Angenendt: >>>> Ralph Angenendt wrote: >>>>> Errm, yes. Worst possible bug report :) >>>> Talking to myself: >>>> >>>> SELinux is turned off. >>> With SELinux off, I am able to get this Xair stuff running on my Radeon >>> 7000 - it's quite slow but today a new 9250 should be arriving just for >>> this kind of testing. > > Disabling selinux isnt a solution a solution at all... rather report > the problem with bugzilla to get a real solution instead of telling > people to turn off important security features. > > i do not recommend to turn off selinux and turn off important security > bits of the system neither for eye candy nor for other > tasks/applications. > > I doubt any fedora developer does want to recommend that either ;). > > regards, > Rudolf Kastl > >>> - David >> >> -- >> fedora-test-list mailing list >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > The problem was fixed. I logged in as root and removed session from .gnome2 directory and the problem has been fixed. Thanks, Antonio __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From icon at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 24 14:09:51 2006 From: icon at fedoraproject.org (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:09:51 -0500 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <1140762131.2162.3.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> <1140762131.2162.3.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <43FF13AF.8080603@fedoraproject.org> David Nielsen wrote: > A more grave problem is that on my machine at least it fires up the pop > up before the applet has been placed so it's often slightly off screen > and it is the first thing the user sees. Hardly desirable behaviour to > display a broken error message as the first thing. Yep, same thing here. It shows up somewhere partly off-screen on the left, since the panel hasn't yet finished rendering. Looks really awkward. Regards, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev McGill University WSG River: "I tore these out of your symbol, and they turned into paper." --Episode #7, "Jaynestown" From robert.chiodini-1 at ksc.nasa.gov Fri Feb 24 14:13:21 2006 From: robert.chiodini-1 at ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:13:21 -0500 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <43FF13AF.8080603@fedoraproject.org> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> <1140762131.2162.3.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF13AF.8080603@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1140790401.22038.7.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 09:09 -0500, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > David Nielsen wrote: > > A more grave problem is that on my machine at least it fires up the pop > > up before the applet has been placed so it's often slightly off screen > > and it is the first thing the user sees. Hardly desirable behaviour to > > display a broken error message as the first thing. > > Yep, same thing here. It shows up somewhere partly off-screen on the > left, since the panel hasn't yet finished rendering. Looks really awkward. > > Regards, > -- > Konstantin Ryabitsev > McGill University WSG > > River: "I tore these out of your symbol, and they turned into paper." > --Episode #7, "Jaynestown" > Okay, I have to ask: Where is it supposed to be? Here it ends up pointing at the "Computer" icon. Not an illogical place. I think ubuntu points it the network icon on the top panel. And yes, I see it every time I boot, even though the network is up. Bob... From icon at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 24 14:16:30 2006 From: icon at fedoraproject.org (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:16:30 -0500 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <1140790401.22038.7.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> <1140762131.2162.3.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF13AF.8080603@fedoraproject.org> <1140790401.22038.7.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <43FF153E.2010704@fedoraproject.org> Bob Chiodini wrote: > Okay, I have to ask: Where is it supposed to be? Here it ends up > pointing at the "Computer" icon. Not an illogical place. > > I think ubuntu points it the network icon on the top panel. > > And yes, I see it every time I boot, even though the network is up. Well, once the panel is loaded, it pops up pointing to the nm-applet in the top-right (notification area on my screen). At least that's what it does once the panel is fully rendered. I'll test it out further tonight when I get back to my FC5T3 laptop. Regards, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev McGill University WSG River: "I tore these out of your symbol, and they turned into paper." --Episode #7, "Jaynestown" From gnomeuser at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 14:19:26 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:19:26 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <43FF0ED4.9040308@cdc.gov> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060224104151.GF4616@br-online.de> <1140778386.3304.0.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF08AD.3050008@cdc.gov> <43FF0ED4.9040308@cdc.gov> Message-ID: <1140790766.4066.2.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> fre, 24 02 2006 kl. 08:49 -0500, skrev Sessoms, Mack: > agreed! > I suppose this is the proper place to track this issue. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176221 I get a rather nasty hang using my r300 based card, I'll replace it with the r100 based on again later to provide more data. Untill then I encourage others to help out. And no turning SELinux off isn't a solution however I noticed it while testing another SELinux induced issue. - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From che666 at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 14:30:57 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:30:57 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <1140790766.4066.2.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060224104151.GF4616@br-online.de> <1140778386.3304.0.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF08AD.3050008@cdc.gov> <43FF0ED4.9040308@cdc.gov> <1140790766.4066.2.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: 2006/2/24, David Nielsen : > fre, 24 02 2006 kl. 08:49 -0500, skrev Sessoms, Mack: > > agreed! > > > > I suppose this is the proper place to track this issue. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176221 > > I get a rather nasty hang using my r300 based card, I'll replace it with > the r100 based on again later to provide more data. Untill then I > encourage others to help out. > > And no turning SELinux off isn't a solution however I noticed it while > testing another SELinux induced issue. > > - David > > -- > Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: > www.lovesunix.net/blog > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > hang with r250 here ;) i am going to debug it this evening. need a 2nd box to ssh in and attach gdb. From bruno at wolff.to Fri Feb 24 14:49:58 2006 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:49:58 -0600 Subject: Updating FC5T3 DVD iso? Message-ID: <20060224144958.GA25256@wolff.to> I tried installing from DVD last night and it failed. In graphical mode it crashed and in text mode the screen was scrambled enough that it wasn't safe for me to try the update since I wanted to be careful about which partitions got formatted. (I filed bugs on these and a couple of things dealing with the release notes.) I see that anaconda has been updated since Monday. Can I copy the iso contents, replace packages with updated ones (in particular anaconda), remake the iso and expect it to work? From lsatenstein at yahoo.com Fri Feb 24 15:04:07 2006 From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:04:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Is Core5 ready In-Reply-To: <20060224094942.54B17737E2@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060224150407.87237.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A concerned tester. I asked this question, since, from day 1 of core 5 (test1). The Canadian French Keyboard definition as implemented is wrong, the good definition is in Core4. When will the good definition be transfered to Core5? It was in Bugzilla. So, if you cannot use the keyboard without buying a second one, what is the point of going live. Do you think that by closing the list of open bugs, without verifying if each bug was corrected, was a wise decision? It is one that I cannot accept. Therefore, when Core5 goes live, perhaps optimistically too soon, I will not be one to be on the bleeding edge. I would prefer to see a delay, until each bug that was on the list as of Feb 16th is resolved. Leslie Celebrating my 40th year in IT. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 24 15:11:54 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:41:54 +0530 Subject: Is Core5 ready In-Reply-To: <20060224150407.87237.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060224150407.87237.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43FF223A.5010809@fedoraproject.org> Leslie Satenstein wrote: >A concerned tester. > > I asked this question, since, from day 1 of core 5 (test1). The Canadian French Keyboard definition as implemented is wrong, the good definition is in Core4. When will the good definition be transfered to Core5? It was in Bugzilla. So, if you cannot use the keyboard without buying a second one, what is the point of going live. > > > > Bug report number? Is it marked as a blocker? -- Rahul From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Fri Feb 24 15:28:59 2006 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:28:59 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <1140790766.4066.2.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060224104151.GF4616@br-online.de> <1140778386.3304.0.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF08AD.3050008@cdc.gov> <43FF0ED4.9040308@cdc.gov> <1140790766.4066.2.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <20060224152859.GG4616@br-online.de> David Nielsen wrote: > fre, 24 02 2006 kl. 08:49 -0500, skrev Sessoms, Mack: > > agreed! > > > I suppose this is the proper place to track this issue. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176221 Though that isn't the issue I'm seeing. Well, I'm gonna have some time tomorrow for doing some more debugging ... Ralph -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 24 15:37:52 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:07:52 +0530 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43FF2850.3070009@fedoraproject.org> DAVID BENTLEY wrote: >Since yesterdays updates I am seeing a popup saying >that the network is >disconnected but it isn't any idea which component >could be causing this >so that a bug report can be raised against it. > > > libnotify -- Rahul From mharris at redhat.com Fri Feb 24 15:42:02 2006 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:42:02 -0500 Subject: REQUEST FOR TESTERS: xorg-x11-fonts-7.0-2 Message-ID: <43FF294A.9080800@redhat.com> I've built new xorg-x11-fonts packages to attempt to resolve bug #173875. The new packages seem to resolve the issue fine for me with local testing. However, since this changes the encodings.dir files which all invocations of mkfontdir and mkfontscale use, it is possible that these changes at least theoretically could change the way that fonts.dir files get generated. It is thus theoretically possible that people's fonts could disappear, or that some other unexpected results could occur after updating to the new font packages. As such, since FC5 is very close, in line with keeping risks to a minimum this late in the cycle, I want to get as many people as possible to upgrade to the new font packages and provide feedback before I consider putting them into rawhide. Please download the following font rpms, and upgrade to all of them with "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" and report back any error messages that occur, or any problems that occur after upgrading to the new packages. Please reboot your system so that xfs, the X server, and whatnot are all completely restarted to maximize the testing benefit. Additionally, I have put a diff of the spec file changes I've made in a file attachment in the bug. Peer review of the changes are also appreciated. The idea here is to try to avoid last minute catastrophes from entering the fray. Your help in testing this is greatly appreciated. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=173875 Thanks in advance. -- Mike A. Harris, Systems Engineer, X11 Development team, Red Hat Canada, Ltd. From mharris at redhat.com Fri Feb 24 15:43:07 2006 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:43:07 -0500 Subject: REQUEST FOR TESTERS: xorg-x11-fonts-7.0-2 Message-ID: <43FF298B.5020805@redhat.com> I've built new xorg-x11-fonts packages to attempt to resolve bug #173875. The new packages seem to resolve the issue fine for me with local testing. However, since this changes the encodings.dir files which all invocations of mkfontdir and mkfontscale use, it is possible that these changes at least theoretically could change the way that fonts.dir files get generated. It is thus theoretically possible that people's fonts could disappear, or that some other unexpected results could occur after updating to the new font packages. As such, since FC5 is very close, in line with keeping risks to a minimum this late in the cycle, I want to get as many people as possible to upgrade to the new font packages and provide feedback before I consider putting them into rawhide. Please download the following font rpms, and upgrade to all of them with "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" and report back any error messages that occur, or any problems that occur after upgrading to the new packages. Please reboot your system so that xfs, the X server, and whatnot are all completely restarted to maximize the testing benefit. xorg-x11-fonts-7.0-2 is now available for download via ftp at the following URL: ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/testing/unstable Additionally, I have put a diff of the spec file changes I've made in a file attachment in the bug. Peer review of the changes are also appreciated. The idea here is to try to avoid last minute catastrophes from entering the fray. Your help in testing this is greatly appreciated. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=173875 Thanks in advance. -- Mike A. Harris, Systems Engineer, X11 Development team, Red Hat Canada, Ltd. From mharris at mharris.ca Fri Feb 24 15:57:44 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:57:44 -0500 Subject: FC5t3 and the nv driver woes In-Reply-To: <1140786488.25068.117.camel@eagle.lab.net> References: <1140786488.25068.117.camel@eagle.lab.net> Message-ID: <43FF2CF8.6040909@mharris.ca> Jeff Vian wrote: > I just built a brand new machine and installed FC5t3. The nv driver > will not work on it. > > This is a Giga-Byte GA-K8N Pro-SLI mobo with AMD 64 X2 3800+ dual core > processor and an eVGA GeForce 6600 PCIe video card. > > Installing had to be done in text mode because the graphics install was > not even partly readable (totally unusable). Text mode had a lot of > artifacts, but I was able to use it because I am familiar with what was > expected. > > After getting it installed I can boot in text mode and I tried to get X > working. The only way I can is with the vesa driver, and that is not at > maximum resolution. The max resolution on my monitor is 1600x1200 but > the best I can get from the vesa driver is 1280x1024. > > If I try to enable the nv driver the screen goes to totally non-readable > and thus I am presently quite frustrated with this install. > > Where do I file a bug? What do I file it against? I assume this would > be against xorg. Is that correct? Or would it be the nv driver? > > So far everything else seems to work well, although I just finished the > install so have not done a lot of testing as yet. http://bugs.freedesktop.org "xorg" product, "nVidia (open)" component. HTH -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Fri Feb 24 16:00:20 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:00:20 -0500 Subject: Is Core5 ready In-Reply-To: <20060224150407.87237.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060224150407.87237.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43FF2D94.5030707@mharris.ca> Leslie Satenstein wrote: > A concerned tester. > > I asked this question, since, from day 1 of core 5 (test1). The Canadian > French Keyboard definition as implemented is wrong, the good definition > is in Core4. When will the good definition be transfered to Core5? It > was in Bugzilla. So, if you cannot use the keyboard without buying a > second one, what is the point of going live. > > > Do you think that by closing the list of open bugs, without verifying if > each bug was corrected, was a wise decision? It is one that I cannot > accept. > > Therefore, when Core5 goes live, perhaps optimistically too soon, I will > not be one to be on the bleeding edge. I would prefer to see a delay, > until each bug that was on the list as of Feb 16th is resolved. Best place to report xkbdata bugs is in the http://bugs.freedesktop.org "xorg" component. The xkbdata maintainer is very responsive. Hope this helps. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From zac9 at CDC.GOV Fri Feb 24 15:43:55 2006 From: zac9 at CDC.GOV (Sessoms, Mack) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:43:55 -0500 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <20060224152859.GG4616@br-online.de> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060224104151.GF4616@br-online.de> <1140778386.3304.0.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF08AD.3050008@cdc.gov> <43FF0ED4.9040308@cdc.gov> <1140790766.4066.2.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <20060224152859.GG4616@br-online.de> Message-ID: <43FF29BB.8060608@cdc.gov> for me, metacity wouldn't start. i was getting "error in loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied" Ralph Angenendt wrote: > David Nielsen wrote: >> fre, 24 02 2006 kl. 08:49 -0500, skrev Sessoms, Mack: >>> agreed! >>> >> I suppose this is the proper place to track this issue. >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176221 > > Though that isn't the issue I'm seeing. 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Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From bmillett at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 16:32:54 2006 From: bmillett at gmail.com (Brian Millett) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:32:54 -0600 Subject: can't get beagle to index simple text files Message-ID: <1140798774.4228.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> I am running rawhide, latest 20060224 updates. I have setup beagle to start indexing automatically and to index my home dir. It has accumulated a lot of indexes [bpm]$ du -sh .beagle/ 520M .beagle/ But I know that I have many plain ascii text files. One in particular I know that there is only one reference to a name "hagoth". Beagle searching tells me that "hagoth" can not be found. I can find anything in any evolution email. What is the trick? Thanks. -- Brian Millett - [ Londo and Garibaldi, "A Voice in the Wilderness I"] "The next day, I woke up. I saw her in the light of day, sleeping against my arm and I decided I would rather chew off my arm than wake her up." 'Ohhh, that's sweet.' "Nooo, nooo. She had a voice that could curdle fresh milk. 'Londooo!' 'Yes, dear?' 'Londo!' 'Coming, my darling. I'll be right there, my love bug.'" From rmoliva at citlink.net Fri Feb 24 17:09:25 2006 From: rmoliva at citlink.net (Roni M. Oliva) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:09:25 -0700 Subject: Problems with Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Message-ID: <1140800965.2946.7.camel@unai.bitbyteword.com> Hello everyone, I have just downloaded FC5 test 3 and after burning the CD's, I started to install. Booting up with the CD was not a problem, but I received an "exited abnormally" message. I have trouble with this as I have not had problems in the past testing out the FC tests on my live machine. I just install and when the final release comes out I perform a clean install while I preserve the partitions where my data reside. My hardware is quite "old": Supermicro PDGE6, with two 500Mhz PIII, one half gif of RAM and lots of disk space. My video card is also quite old, but works well for me, it is an Nvidia GeForce 2 MX. Question is: Has anyone else had problems with abnormal exit during the installation of FC5 test 3? Thanks in advance .. -- Roni "The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person who is doing it." -Chinese Proverb From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Fri Feb 24 17:18:37 2006 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:18:37 -0500 Subject: REQUEST FOR TESTERS: xorg-x11-fonts-7.0-2 In-Reply-To: <43FF294A.9080800@redhat.com> References: <43FF294A.9080800@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43FF3FED.4030604@cox.net> Mike A. Harris wrote: > I've built new xorg-x11-fonts packages to attempt to resolve > bug #173875. The new packages seem to resolve the issue fine > for me with local testing. > Please download the following font rpms, and upgrade to all > of them with "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" and report back any error messages > that occur, or any problems that occur after upgrading to the > new packages. Please reboot your system so that xfs, the > X server, and whatnot are all completely restarted to maximize > the testing benefit. > > Additionally, I have put a diff of the spec file changes I've > made in a file attachment in the bug. Peer review of the > changes are also appreciated. > > The idea here is to try to avoid last minute catastrophes from > entering the fray. Your help in testing this is greatly > appreciated. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=173875 > > Thanks in advance. > > Worked nicely here, haven't seen any probs---logs are clean WRT fonts and xfs. /etc/X11/fs/config is good. -- Regards, Old Fart (my reply-to address is "munged" to defeat spambots) From gstool at earthlink.net Fri Feb 24 17:20:34 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:20:34 -0600 Subject: can't get beagle to index simple text files In-Reply-To: <1140798774.4228.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140798774.4228.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1140801634.3083.8.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 10:32 -0600, Brian Millett wrote: > I am running rawhide, latest 20060224 updates. I have setup beagle to > start indexing automatically and to index my home dir. It has > accumulated a lot of indexes > > [bpm]$ du -sh .beagle/ > 520M .beagle/ > > But I know that I have many plain ascii text files. One in particular I > know that there is only one reference to a name "hagoth". Beagle > searching tells me that "hagoth" can not be found. I can find anything > in any evolution email. > > What is the trick? > I have the same updates installed, have specified autostart which now works, and have requested indexing of my home directory and /. If I search for "fedora", I get a lot of "Conversation" entries, and a few mail attachment "Documents", but no hint of any files that have "fedora" in the name. Locate of course finds tens of these. The results of the du command for me are: [gerry at fc5t3 ~]$ du -sh .beagle/ 4.4M .beagle/ Why am I not finding these files with the GUI Search tool? I did file a bug, #182191, but it was closed RAWHIDE by Matthias Clasen (mclasen at redhat.com) on 2006-02-21 15:18 EST. I have the latest update, and the above is still the case. Should I reopen the bug? Thanks. Gerry From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 24 17:28:21 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:58:21 +0530 Subject: can't get beagle to index simple text files In-Reply-To: <1140801634.3083.8.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> References: <1140798774.4228.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1140801634.3083.8.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> Message-ID: <43FF4235.2000209@fedoraproject.org> Hi >> >> >> >I have the same updates installed, have specified autostart which now >works, and have requested indexing of my home directory and /. If I >search for "fedora", I get a lot of "Conversation" entries, and a few >mail attachment "Documents", but no hint of any files that have "fedora" >in the name. Locate of course finds tens of these. > >The results of the du command for me are: >[gerry at fc5t3 ~]$ du -sh .beagle/ >4.4M .beagle/ > >Why am I not finding these files with the GUI Search tool? > >I did file a bug, #182191, but it was closed RAWHIDE by Matthias Clasen >(mclasen at redhat.com) on 2006-02-21 15:18 EST. I have the latest update, >and the above is still the case. Should I reopen the bug? > >Thanks. >Gerry > > > I guess you should reopen the bug and provide more information. Session logs and example data could be useful. -- Rahul From dcbw at redhat.com Fri Feb 24 17:34:34 2006 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:34:34 -0500 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1140802475.2326.0.camel@dhcp83-74.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 20:03 -0500, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > ? 23/02/06 07:48 PM, John (J5) Palmieri a ?crit: > >> BTW, the side-effect of compiling in libnotify is that now > >> NetworkManager pulls in pango and with it much of X. > > > > nm-applet should be the only app linking to libnotify which already > > pulls in pango and much of X. > > icon at protee:[~]$ rpm -q --requires NetworkManager | grep notify > libnotify >= 0.3 > > Probably a packaging bug? Yes, quite a stupid one. Should be corrected in 0.5.1-14. Dan From mclasen at redhat.com Fri Feb 24 17:45:02 2006 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:45:02 -0500 Subject: Is Core5 ready In-Reply-To: <43FF2D94.5030707@mharris.ca> References: <20060224150407.87237.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43FF2D94.5030707@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <1140803103.2511.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 11:00 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Leslie Satenstein wrote: > > A concerned tester. > > > > I asked this question, since, from day 1 of core 5 (test1). The Canadian > > French Keyboard definition as implemented is wrong, the good definition > > is in Core4. When will the good definition be transfered to Core5? It > > was in Bugzilla. So, if you cannot use the keyboard without buying a > > second one, what is the point of going live. > > > > > > Do you think that by closing the list of open bugs, without verifying if > > each bug was corrected, was a wise decision? It is one that I cannot > > accept. > > > > Therefore, when Core5 goes live, perhaps optimistically too soon, I will > > not be one to be on the bleeding edge. I would prefer to see a delay, > > until each bug that was on the list as of Feb 16th is resolved. > > Best place to report xkbdata bugs is in the > http://bugs.freedesktop.org "xorg" component. The xkbdata maintainer > is very responsive. > > Hope this helps. Doesn't really help for stuff that _needs_ to be fixed for FC5, I think... Matthias From mclasen at redhat.com Fri Feb 24 17:50:03 2006 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:50:03 -0500 Subject: can't get beagle to index simple text files In-Reply-To: <1140798774.4228.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140798774.4228.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1140803403.2511.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 10:32 -0600, Brian Millett wrote: > I am running rawhide, latest 20060224 updates. I have setup beagle to > start indexing automatically and to index my home dir. It has > accumulated a lot of indexes > > [bpm]$ du -sh .beagle/ > 520M .beagle/ > > But I know that I have many plain ascii text files. One in particular I > know that there is only one reference to a name "hagoth". Beagle > searching tells me that "hagoth" can not be found. I can find anything > in any evolution email. > > What is the trick? > Most of it is likely debug spew in .beagle/Log, which can be safely deleted. Todays beagle may spew a bit less (I changed some log levels from debug to warn). Matthias From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Fri Feb 24 17:51:53 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:51:53 +0100 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 00:19 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > I was about to submit a bug report that neither does the installer > simply allow my to throw the full contents of the DVD onto my disk > anymore, nor do any of my kickstart files work with FC5 anymore, when > I found that this was not a bug or a temporary shortcoming, but was > done on purpose (at least according to a post by R. Sundaram which > sounded quite authoritative). you assume it's even possible to (sanely) install all packages, which I think already was not the case for a while, with an increasing number of special cases to keep the "almost everything" install working.... (kernels and other rpms with conflicting files etc etc) From jos at xos.nl Fri Feb 24 18:05:36 2006 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:05:36 +0100 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>; from arjan@fenrus.demon.nl on Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 06:51:53PM +0100 References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <20060224190536.A24366@xos037.xos.nl> On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 06:51:53PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > you assume it's even possible to (sanely) install all packages, which I > think already was not the case for a while, with an increasing number of > special cases to keep the "almost everything" install working.... > > (kernels and other rpms with conflicting files etc etc) Is there more info on this? Until now I thought the "everything install" was just everything except a small list in Anaconda, while potential conflicts in packages were either solved by using the "alternatives" mechanism or fix the packaging bug ;-). -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Fri Feb 24 18:24:00 2006 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:24:00 +0100 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 06:51:53PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 00:19 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > > I was about to submit a bug report that neither does the installer > > simply allow my to throw the full contents of the DVD onto my disk > > anymore, nor do any of my kickstart files work with FC5 anymore, when > > I found that this was not a bug or a temporary shortcoming, but was > > done on purpose (at least according to a post by R. Sundaram which > > sounded quite authoritative). > > > you assume it's even possible to (sanely) install all packages, which I > think already was not the case for a while, with an increasing number of > special cases to keep the "almost everything" install working.... > > (kernels and other rpms with conflicting files etc etc) Yes, I know, that was always the case. And "everything" meant just that. An everything install option should had been even a must for the test releases. There are bugs that emerge only in bad synergies of packages. I just installed FC5t3, clicked on any funny checkbox there was and I get a system w/o emacs ... BTW I found a bugzilla entry [2] which contrary to R. Sundaram's report [1] stated that this was just due to missing yum glue and not a permanent state: [1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=438011&postcount=4 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177621 Let's hope a coming rawhide cut will have this restored in one way or another. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Locate of course finds tens of these. > > > >The results of the du command for me are: > >[gerry at fc5t3 ~]$ du -sh .beagle/ > >4.4M .beagle/ > > > >Why am I not finding these files with the GUI Search tool? > > > >I did file a bug, #182191, but it was closed RAWHIDE by Matthias Clasen > >(mclasen at redhat.com) on 2006-02-21 15:18 EST. I have the latest update, > >and the above is still the case. Should I reopen the bug? > > > >Thanks. > >Gerry > > > > > > > I guess you should reopen the bug and provide more information. Session > logs and example data could be useful. I did reopen the bug, was as specific as I could be, and asked what else I could provide to help understand the problem. Gerry From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 24 18:43:48 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:13:48 +0530 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <43FF53E4.1050309@fedoraproject.org> Hi > >[1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=438011&postcount=4 >[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177621 > >Let's hope a coming rawhide cut will have this restored in one way or >another. > > We are talking about two different things. The bug report is on Kickstart while I was talking about Anaconda. -- Rahul From michal at harddata.com Fri Feb 24 18:49:33 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:49:33 -0700 Subject: Problems with Fedora Core 5 Test 3 In-Reply-To: <1140800965.2946.7.camel@unai.bitbyteword.com> References: <1140800965.2946.7.camel@unai.bitbyteword.com> Message-ID: <20060224184933.GA10466@mail.harddata.com> On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 10:09:25AM -0700, Roni M. Oliva wrote: > > Question is: Has anyone else had problems with abnormal exit during the > installation of FC5 test 3? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182470 for example. Maybe you should check bugzilla first? But if this is a similar crash you are seeing that is impossible to tell from what you posted. Michal From shuaibao at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 15:27:38 2006 From: shuaibao at gmail.com (Shuai King) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:27:38 -0500 Subject: Should I get FC5B3 or Wait? Message-ID: <43FF25EA.2040302@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 24 19:15:16 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:45:16 +0530 Subject: Should I get FC5B3 or Wait? In-Reply-To: <43FF25EA.2040302@gmail.com> References: <43FF25EA.2040302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43FF5B44.6070305@fedoraproject.org> Shuai King wrote: >Hi, >I want to minimize my download times, so should I get FC5 Beta 3 or wait for >March 15? >Thank you > > If you want to test and provide feedback to developers, use FC5 test 3. Otherwise wait for the final release. -- Rahul From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Fri Feb 24 19:22:35 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:22:35 +0000 Subject: FC5T3 freeze (x86_64 + NVidia 6600) In-Reply-To: <43FED815.7010008@mharris.ca> References: <43FE10FB.5020303@yahoo.co.uk> <43FED815.7010008@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <43FF5CFB.1040300@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/24/2006 09:55 AM, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> What info can help solve this issue (I have collected some logs)? >> Against what should I file a bug? > > Best thing to do with any/all "nv" driver bugs is file a bug report at: > http://bugs.freedesktop.org in the xorg product, > component "nVidia (open)" > > That goes straight to Aaron Plattner from Nvidia, who is currently > maintaining the open source nv driver (along with Mark V.) > > Hope this helps. Thanks Mike! Bug submitted: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032 Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From michael.favia at insitesinc.com Fri Feb 24 19:27:14 2006 From: michael.favia at insitesinc.com (Michael Favia) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:27:14 -0600 Subject: Should I get FC5B3 or Wait? In-Reply-To: <43FF25EA.2040302@gmail.com> References: <43FF25EA.2040302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43FF5E12.1060803@insitesinc.com> Shuai King wrote: > Hi, > I want to minimize my download times, so should I get FC5 Beta 3 or wait > for March 15? > Thank you It isn't a beta it is a test. You are welcome to download it but if this is a production or necessary machine to you i would suggest waiting. Most of the churn and big changes (xorg7, gcc4.1, mono, most of gnome changes) seem behind us for this release but some still lie ahead (gnome final, kernel .16 final, etc.). i am not a developer so i don't speak with any authority on that. Basically i'm saying this. If you know what you are doing in terms of package management then the ride isn't terribly bumpy for non-eccentric hardware computers at this time. If this is your first ride on fedora wait for the next stop (fc5 final). But in terms of download minimization times the churn of development automatically means that you'll be getting more download by tracking fc5t3 -> fc5 final. Good luck. -- Michael Favia michael.favia at insitesinc.com Insites Incorporated http://michael.insitesinc.com From jkeating at j2solutions.net Fri Feb 24 20:41:57 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:41:57 -0800 Subject: Testing Request In-Reply-To: <200602231540.04527.jpearson42@wowway.com> References: <1140652106.13287.27.camel@ender> <200602231540.04527.jpearson42@wowway.com> Message-ID: <1140813717.28073.36.camel@ender> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 15:40 -0500, John Pearson wrote: > > I did notice an error message at boot-up about a seq fault. But I was not > quick enough to write it down. Is there something else that I should look > at? Nope, thank you very much. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I understand though that the 80M rescue cd contains a much >> wider range of device and logical drivers than the boot.iso, and it >> may just be a matter of passing the correct value in the boot: prompt >> or in the hard disk method ? > I tried the rescue disk. It too appears to have the problem that the > initial system it boots into can't read LVM, not until you choose the > go into rescue mode does it seem to activate the lvm and vgscan. >> >> I resorted to making some /home/install space on an ext3 drive so >> that the isos would be available; I have also got around it by >> mounting the iso's on another machine and making them available over >> ftp. (for dvd mount on eg disc, while for CD mkdirs of disc1, d2, d3, >> d4 etc and give the disc1 folder as the image location. > I guess FTP is my next best hope to avoid burning the CDs. With the > default layout of Fedora being 100M ext3 and everything else LVM is > seems pretty obvious that the installer should need to be able to read > LVM. I may file a feature request. I have filed a request for enhancement to enable anaconda to read logical volumes. From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 20:58:05 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:58:05 -0500 Subject: Send CLA broken? Message-ID: <91f88ee20602241258n37554327tc38153bcccac9006@mail.gmail.com> Would some please help me off-list: https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/send-cla.cgi The "accouting system" says my ID is unknown. PS - I didn't want to post to the list but I feel strange pestering project people directly. At least this way if no one wants to help me I can take a hint. :-) -- WC Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ From nman64 at n-man.com Fri Feb 24 21:11:08 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:11:08 -0600 Subject: Send CLA broken? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602241258n37554327tc38153bcccac9006@mail.gmail.com> References: <91f88ee20602241258n37554327tc38153bcccac9006@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200602241511.11684.nman64@n-man.com> On Friday 24 February 2006 14:58, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > Would some please help me off-list: > https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/send-cla.cgi > > The "accouting system" says my ID is unknown. > > PS - I didn't want to post to the list but I feel strange pestering > project people directly. At least this way if no one wants to help me > I can take a hint. :-) > -- > WC Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ Have you already registered in the Account System? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem To contact the Account System team, including myself, send further correspondence to accounts AT fedoraproject.org. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 21:22:32 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:22:32 -0500 Subject: Send CLA broken? In-Reply-To: <200602241511.11684.nman64@n-man.com> References: <91f88ee20602241258n37554327tc38153bcccac9006@mail.gmail.com> <200602241511.11684.nman64@n-man.com> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602241322x16fa56b8g43a9862774ee8074@mail.gmail.com> > Have you already registered in the Account System? Apparently not, I'm trying to do that now but I am now getting: SSHv2 Public Key (attach your ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub file here) (Invalid SSH key): None of my Fedora5 boxes are working and the iMac I use at home is not connected to the Internet -- so I'm stuck here using PuTTY on Windows XP. Are the SSH2 dsa file formats not the same? -- WC Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Fri Feb 24 22:11:19 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:11:19 -0500 Subject: can't get beagle to index simple text files In-Reply-To: <1140803403.2511.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140798774.4228.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1140803403.2511.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43FF8487.3080403@insight.rr.com> Matthias Clasen wrote: > > Most of it is likely debug spew in .beagle/Log, which can be safely > deleted. Todays beagle may spew a bit less (I changed some log levels > from debug to warn). > > Matthias Thanks Matthias, The log messages to system were very large and not discernible to someone that checks mail for system intrusions or program failures. I believe debugging messages should be referenced by brief system mail notifications. Thanks, Jim From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Fri Feb 24 21:37:23 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:37:23 -0500 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <43FF7C93.60507@insight.rr.com> Axel Thimm wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 06:51:53PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: >> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 00:19 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: >>> I was about to submit a bug report that neither does the installer >>> simply allow my to throw the full contents of the DVD onto my disk >>> anymore, nor do any of my kickstart files work with FC5 anymore, when >>> I found that this was not a bug or a temporary shortcoming, but was >>> done on purpose (at least according to a post by R. Sundaram which >>> sounded quite authoritative). >> >> you assume it's even possible to (sanely) install all packages, which I >> think already was not the case for a while, with an increasing number of >> special cases to keep the "almost everything" install working.... >> >> (kernels and other rpms with conflicting files etc etc) > > Yes, I know, that was always the case. And "everything" meant just that. > > An everything install option should had been even a must for the test > releases. There are bugs that emerge only in bad synergies of > packages. > > I just installed FC5t3, clicked on any funny checkbox there was and I > get a system w/o emacs ... > > BTW I found a bugzilla entry [2] which contrary to R. Sundaram's > report [1] stated that this was just due to missing yum glue and not a > permanent state: > > [1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=438011&postcount=4 > [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177621 > > Let's hope a coming rawhide cut will have this restored in one way or > another. > So basically lack of resolution in the yum program and hesitation for upstream to compromise on additional patches to enable more user discretion is the problem. Also the policy for Fedora to track upstream as closely as possible is a drawback to supplying a patch to resolve the problem. I admire the upstream work and strong adherence to the individualistic goals upstream desires. I however see the benefits for everything installation as a possibility "best effort" dependency and installation efforts to be crucial for managing a system. Divergence from upstream might allow for a more controllable and better suited final product. If further divergent development is needed, it might be wise to follow an independent direction and diverge as needed. Basically, the goal of the project to keep in line with upstream is great and the best policy for a more unified look for development of programs which are included within the distribution. The only problem with complete reliance to conform with upstream policy is you get what they decide to accept. The pitfalls are you get a less capable updating mechanism and in the terms of GNOME, whatever upstream decides to push onto the downstream users/developers. GOALS: - The ability to install everything if desired. - The ability to have your system install all the packages which have satisfied dependencies resolved. - program behaviors to satisfy the user instead of "best for the user's own good". - not having a system that pretty darn well matches MS in downright disgraceful behavior. (KDE) - Not having a desktop where customization and completely stupid ideas. (gss and nautilus browsing behavior) are pushed into the desktop to spite user feedback to the contrary. (GNOME) - A desktop which is customizable, feature rich and incorporates within it what is useful and attractive to the end user. Sorry, I'm stuck in KDE and am experiencing a lot of MS windows behavior because metacity is crashed in GNOME and the windows switcher or program contol are gone without a decent windows manager. I believe it is time to depart from metacity and incorporate enlightenment or another window manager. Metacity even cut out the windows managing feature. This is base for what the program is supposed to accomplish in the first place. Simplicity is not the answer. Upstream co-operation with project goals and usability and customizability are better served with divergence from upstream. Jim -- "One lawyer can steal more than a hundred men with guns." -- The Godfather From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 24 22:29:43 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 03:59:43 +0530 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <43FF7C93.60507@insight.rr.com> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> <43FF7C93.60507@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <43FF88D7.4000209@fedoraproject.org> Hi > > - Not having a desktop where customization and completely stupid > ideas. (gss and nautilus browsing behavior) are pushed into the > desktop to spite user feedback to the contrary. (GNOME) What does this have to do with a everything installation?. If you have request for enhancements to gss and nautilus browsing behavior, file them > Metacity even cut out the windows managing feature. This is base for > what the program is supposed to accomplish in the first place. > Simplicity is not the answer. Not sure what you refer to as the windows managing feature. Last time I checked they were moving towards the direction of adding more window management option with features like edge resistance. Again unsure how this relates to everything installation. > Upstream co-operation with project goals and usability and > customizability are better served with divergence from upstream. Diverging from upstream solution is a long term maintenance issue. We need to be careful about that. -- Rahul From stanfinley at comcast.net Fri Feb 24 22:43:32 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:43:32 -0700 Subject: Automatic and timed login won't work in FC5 test 3 Message-ID: <1140821012.13614.6.camel@stantonfinley.org> In FC5T3 happened to the timed and automatic login features we have in FC4? When I go to "System" > "Administration" > "Login Screen", on the "Security" tab tick the check box for "Enable Timed Login", and then try to select a user in the "User:" drop down box there are no users available or if I type a user in that box it won't accept it. Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From nman64 at n-man.com Fri Feb 24 22:49:14 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:49:14 -0600 Subject: Send CLA broken? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602241322x16fa56b8g43a9862774ee8074@mail.gmail.com> References: <91f88ee20602241258n37554327tc38153bcccac9006@mail.gmail.com> <200602241511.11684.nman64@n-man.com> <91f88ee20602241322x16fa56b8g43a9862774ee8074@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200602241649.16824.nman64@n-man.com> On Friday 24 February 2006 15:22, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > > Have you already registered in the Account System? > > Apparently not, I'm trying to do that now but I am now getting: > > SSHv2 Public Key (attach your ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub file here) (Invalid SSH > key): > > None of my Fedora5 boxes are working and the iMac I use at home is not > connected to the Internet -- so I'm stuck here using PuTTY on Windows > XP. > > Are the SSH2 dsa file formats not the same? > -- > WC Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ As long as the key is created properly, they'll be almost compatible. The Account System will look for a valid user at hostname comment in the key. Don't ask me why, but without such a comment, it will fail. The comment can be easily added using a text editor. At the end of the key, following the '=', adding a user at hostname bit will most likely allow the key to work. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Fri Feb 24 22:56:55 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:56:55 +0000 Subject: FC5T3 freeze (x86_64 + NVidia 6600) In-Reply-To: <43FF5CFB.1040300@yahoo.co.uk> References: <43FE10FB.5020303@yahoo.co.uk> <43FED815.7010008@mharris.ca> <43FF5CFB.1040300@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <43FF8F37.9050904@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/24/2006 07:22 PM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 02/24/2006 09:55 AM, Mike A. Harris wrote: >> Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >>> What info can help solve this issue (I have collected some logs)? >>> Against what should I file a bug? >> >> Best thing to do with any/all "nv" driver bugs is file a bug report >> at: http://bugs.freedesktop.org in the xorg product, >> component "nVidia (open)" >> >> That goes straight to Aaron Plattner from Nvidia, who is currently >> maintaining the open source nv driver (along with Mark V.) >> >> Hope this helps. > > Thanks Mike! Bug submitted: > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032 BTW: should I also file a "tracking" bug at http://bugzilla.redhat.com, Product Fedora Core, Version fc5test3 since it affects FC5T3? Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Fri Feb 24 22:58:47 2006 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:58:47 +0100 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <43FF53E4.1050309@fedoraproject.org> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> <43FF53E4.1050309@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20060224225847.GO21359@neu.nirvana> On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 12:13:48AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > > >[1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=438011&postcount=4 > >[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177621 > > > >Let's hope a coming rawhide cut will have this restored in one way or > >another. > > > > > We are talking about two different things. The bug report is on > Kickstart while I was talking about Anaconda. Not really, kickstart is just another kind of input to anaconda, the text/gui interfaces during installation is another. And despite the original summary the bug report above is for both the kickstart input and the interfaces. See also to duplicate report. Be it as it may, both items need resurrection, and it looks like both will be back. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Did you go to the Users tab and add the users you want to the allow list and then apply? -jef From stanfinley at comcast.net Fri Feb 24 23:04:30 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:04:30 -0700 Subject: Automatic and timed login won't work in FC5 test 3 In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602241459l576d6069v7211ed48b2727674@mail.gmail.com> References: <1140821012.13614.6.camel@stantonfinley.org> <604aa7910602241459l576d6069v7211ed48b2727674@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140822270.13614.8.camel@stantonfinley.org> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 17:59 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/24/06, Stanton Finley wrote: > > In FC5T3 happened to the timed and automatic login features we have in > > FC4? When I go to "System" > "Administration" > "Login Screen", on the > > "Security" tab tick the check box for "Enable Timed Login", and then try > > to select a user in the "User:" drop down box there are no users > > available or if I type a user in that box it won't accept it. > > Did you go to the Users tab and add the users you want to the allow > list and then apply? > > -jef > Thank you Jef. Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Fri Feb 24 23:13:11 2006 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:13:11 +0100 Subject: initscripts, xen and bonding Message-ID: <20060224231311.GP21359@neu.nirvana> Hi, I'm having a hard time getting bonding to work on FC5t3. It looks like the bond0 interface bond0 is renamed to pbond0 by xen [*] and the enslaving does not work anymore then. It works if I log on the terminal and ifenslave the devices to pbond0 instead of bond0 after the boot process has finished. But I want this to be handled automatically during reboots, so I tried assigning the bonding slaves to pbond0 as a master in the ifcfg-eth{0,1} scripts, but that doesn't work. What is causing the bond0 rename and should this renaming be considered by initscript? Is this a user error or should I file this against bugzilla? xen or initscripts? Thanks! [*] The only reference I found was a Japanese site and google's translation of it. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://hoop.euqset.org/archives/001619.html -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Has the mount syntax changed in FC5 or is this supported in a different way in FC5 From notting at redhat.com Fri Feb 24 23:28:20 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:28:20 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-xen] initscripts, xen and bonding In-Reply-To: <20060224231311.GP21359@neu.nirvana> References: <20060224231311.GP21359@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <20060224232820.GD5644@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Axel Thimm (Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net) said: > I'm having a hard time getting bonding to work on FC5t3. Not surprising. The way Xen does its bridging breaks bonding fairly badly. It's possible it could be fixed in the xen scripts, but I don't think it's been looked at. Bill From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Fri Feb 24 23:32:57 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:32:57 -0500 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <43FF88D7.4000209@fedoraproject.org> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> <43FF7C93.60507@insight.rr.com> <43FF88D7.4000209@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43FF97A9.8070407@insight.rr.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > >> >> - Not having a desktop where customization and completely stupid >> ideas. (gss and nautilus browsing behavior) are pushed into the >> desktop to spite user feedback to the contrary. (GNOME) > > What does this have to do with a everything installation?. If you have > request for enhancements to gss and nautilus browsing behavior, file them Nothing directly, I believe the fact that the removing the ability for someone to have a choice to install everything if they desired to is the connection to gss and nautilus. The connection is why are we making software? Is it for the developers or for the users? Is there any way to come to a middle ground where both perspectives merge? Some of the latest changes comparatively resemble going into someone's house and they have music that you dislike. you might ask them if they could change the selection. They respond back with it is my house, radio or a similar comparison. Of course one either departs or argues a bit more. Basically, a compromise should make and questions should be proposed as to how a common resolution can be met middle ground. Sorry, my thought process for grouping concepts. > >> Metacity even cut out the windows managing feature. This is base for >> what the program is supposed to accomplish in the first place. >> Simplicity is not the answer. > > Not sure what you refer to as the windows managing feature. Last time I > checked they were moving towards the direction of adding more window > management option with features like edge resistance. Again unsure how > this relates to everything installation. I believe the fact that metacity does not currently work and did work slightly before an upgrade with test 3 and its "stabilization" phase brought out issues with metacity comparative to previous desktop managers like enlightenment and other capable managers used throughout at least RHL 5.2 history. > >> Upstream co-operation with project goals and usability and >> customizability are better served with divergence from upstream. > > Diverging from upstream solution is a long term maintenance issue. We > need to be careful about that. It is becoming obvious that making a system which is limited in functionality or reduced user configurability is not possible with upstream adherence and reduced patches. Programs cannot solely rely on the fact that the upstream developer does not want to add capabilities for a program to be able to cope with performing an install everything selection or for a program to install whatever it can resolve program requirements with and report on what programs were not unpalatable because of dep issues. Yum is the Fedora installers main resolution device and it should be patched regardless of upstream arguments. If the end user is limited from functionality, departure from upstream and customization of a program should be applied. If maintenance becomes an issue and divergence is too great, it is now another program with more desired features. If yum is holding back the possibility to do an everything install, fix it. If GNOME is getting a lot of people upset with tactics and deletion of features without regard for user concerns, diverge, patch, eliminate crappy integrated programs, add missing capabilities to the programs/suites. Jim From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 24 23:37:36 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 05:07:36 +0530 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <43FF97A9.8070407@insight.rr.com> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> <43FF7C93.60507@insight.rr.com> <43FF88D7.4000209@fedoraproject.org> <43FF97A9.8070407@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <43FF98C0.8090701@fedoraproject.org> Hi > > Nothing directly, I believe the fact that the removing the ability > for someone to have a choice to install everything if they desired to > is the connection to gss and nautilus. Anaconda was revamped to use yum and this "feature" has not been added back. > The connection is why are we making software? Is it for the developers > or for the users? Is there any way to come to a middle ground where > both perspectives merge? > Some of the latest changes comparatively resemble going into someone's > house and they have music that you dislike. you might ask them if they > could change the selection. They respond back with it is my house, > radio or a similar comparison. Of course one either departs or argues > a bit more. > Basically, a compromise should make and questions should be proposed > as to how a common resolution can be met middle ground. > Sorry, my thought process for grouping concepts. Deviating from the original topic requires a new thread. If you are going on a rant on whether software is designed for users or developers, atleast do it in a different thread so that people can selectively ignore it if they dont want to read on that topic. > > I believe the fact that metacity does not currently work and did work > slightly before an upgrade with test 3 and its "stabilization" phase > brought out issues with metacity comparative to previous desktop > managers like enlightenment and other capable managers used throughout > at least RHL 5.2 history. Define "work". It works fine for me. > > It is becoming obvious that making a system which is limited in > functionality or reduced user configurability is not possible with > upstream adherence and reduced patches. Talk to upstream, fork it or use a alternative. Try talking with bug reports and feature requests since they are specific enough compared to calling something non working when it does. -- Rahul From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Fri Feb 24 23:54:43 2006 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:54:43 +0100 Subject: initscripts, xen and bonding In-Reply-To: <20060224232820.GD5644@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20060224231311.GP21359@neu.nirvana> <20060224232820.GD5644@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060224235443.GR21359@neu.nirvana> On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 06:28:20PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Axel Thimm (Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net) said: > > I'm having a hard time getting bonding to work on FC5t3. > > Not surprising. The way Xen does its bridging breaks bonding > fairly badly. > > It's possible it could be fixed in the xen scripts, but I don't > think it's been looked at. are the xen scripts called by initscripts? E.g. will this logic be encapsulated in such a way that an ifdown/ifup on bond0 outside the boot sequence would do the right thing w/o initscripts knowing anything more about xen, or would initscripts still require some special xen handling? I haven't looked to deeply into xen, so I may be missing the obvious here. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I prefer xscreensaver* and mozilla* to be installed on my system. I would like to have this capability regardless as to whether it was decided that I really did not want these programs installed or not. for those that want * installed on their systems, they could now do so. > Deviating from the original topic requires a new thread. If you are > going on a rant on whether software is designed for users or developers, > atleast do it in a different thread so that people can selectively > ignore it if they dont want to read on that topic. > It is not deviation from the topic when the point is not compromising for some sort of middle ground resolution. I like the glob proposal from comment #3 in bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177621 mentioned earlier. >> >> I believe the fact that metacity does not currently work and did work >> slightly before an upgrade with test 3 and its "stabilization" phase >> brought out issues with metacity comparative to previous desktop >> managers like enlightenment and other capable managers used throughout >> at least RHL 5.2 history. > > Define "work". It works fine for me. All my windows launched end up stuck to the top of my screen and there is no way to switch to previously launched applications. The last application launched has focus. It appears there is no window manager. Metacity is the WM, GNOME is the desktop. I switched to KDE for now instead of fighting g-pm, screensavers, metacity, nautilus problems. Again the relationship is non-compromising factors with development etc. > >> >> It is becoming obvious that making a system which is limited in >> functionality or reduced user configurability is not possible with >> upstream adherence and reduced patches. > > Talk to upstream, fork it or use a alternative. Try talking with bug > reports and feature requests since they are specific enough compared to > calling something non working when it does. > Though coding is rather out of my interest and relaying preferences for features which I feel are practical are my goals, coding might be an option for my future goals. If you want something done right, do it yourself, I guess. So having an installer where everything that is on the installation disks is never going to happen? Jim PS - changing the topic slightly would not really resolve the "Everything Install" capability back to the installer. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Feb 25 00:22:29 2006 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:22:29 +0000 Subject: Animatated gifs in OOo (rawhide) Message-ID: <1140826949.12922.11.camel@T7.Linux> Hi, I've created an OOimpress presentation which contains a couple of animated gifs. I used the clipart/text frame format and wiped the text frame. If I just have the slides in the designer, I can see the animation. As soon as I try and display presentation, the images remain static. I have the "allow animations" option selected in the slide settings. Any ideas on how to get animated gifs to work in OOimpress? TTFN Paul -- "Tr?um's nicht, Lebe schon" - Dr. Frankenfurter, Rocky Horror Show -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there a bug report on this? . This doesnt happen for me. Does it happen for anyone else at all? > . If you want something done right, do it yourself, I guess. Maybe but you will have to patch every update which is exactly why doing it locally is a problem for distribution and end users. Exceptions are made for things like bugs that are fixed before being upstreamed. > > So having an installer where everything that is on the installation > disks is never going to happen? Dont know. I personally dont want that in the interface though I am not a Anaconda developer. I am not sure installing things like every language in the disk is going to be useful. Kickstart can be used to shoot yourself in the foot. It allows for all kind of customisability unless there is a bug. -- Rahul From linxt at comcast.net Sat Feb 25 00:22:24 2006 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:22:24 -0800 Subject: Updating FC5T3 DVD iso? In-Reply-To: <20060224144958.GA25256@wolff.to> References: <20060224144958.GA25256@wolff.to> Message-ID: <200602241622.24866.linxt@comcast.net> On Friday 24 February 2006 06:49, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I tried installing from DVD last night and it failed. In graphical mode > it crashed and in text mode the screen was scrambled enough that it wasn't > safe for me to try the update since I wanted to be careful about which > partitions got formatted. (I filed bugs on these and a couple of things > dealing with the release notes.) > > I see that anaconda has been updated since Monday. Can I copy the iso > contents, replace packages with updated ones (in particular anaconda), > remake the iso and expect it to work? It sounds like you have a corrupted DVD.iso. It is not advisable to try remaking your own iso version unless you REALLY know what you're doing. Did you run sha1sum against the downloaded iso file? Did it agree with the sha1sum from the download site? If so, did you verify the DVD after you burned it? HTH, Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat Feb 25 00:28:10 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:28:10 +0100 Subject: Problem mounting network shares at boot In-Reply-To: <20060224232242.60052.qmail@web86607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20060224232242.60052.qmail@web86607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43FFA49A.5040704@gmx.de> On 25.02.2006 00:22, DAVID BENTLEY wrote: >//terastation/music /home/ianp/music smbfs >username=ianp,password=secret,uid=ianp,gid=ianp 0 0 > >which works Ok on an FC4 machine but fails on a fully >updated FC5TEST3 >machine. > >If you watch while the machine boots you see 'unknown >file format smbfs' > >and if you try to use the mount command you see a >similar message but the >share can be connected to from nautilus (smb:// >etc...) so it is available. > cifs cifs cifs cifs cifs ... -- shrek-m From linxt at comcast.net Sat Feb 25 00:26:44 2006 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:26:44 -0800 Subject: Should I get FC5B3 or Wait? In-Reply-To: <43FF5E12.1060803@insitesinc.com> References: <43FF25EA.2040302@gmail.com> <43FF5E12.1060803@insitesinc.com> Message-ID: <200602241626.44284.linxt@comcast.net> On Friday 24 February 2006 11:27, Michael Favia wrote: > Shuai King wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to minimize my download times, so should I get FC5 Beta 3 or wait > > for March 15? > > Thank you > > It isn't a beta it is a test. You are welcome to download it but if this > is a production or necessary machine to you i would suggest waiting. > Most of the churn and big changes (xorg7, gcc4.1, mono, most of gnome > changes) seem behind us for this release but some still lie ahead (gnome > final, kernel .16 final, etc.). i am not a developer so i don't speak > with any authority on that. Basically i'm saying this. If you know what > you are doing in terms of package management then the ride isn't > terribly bumpy for non-eccentric hardware computers at this time. If > this is your first ride on fedora wait for the next stop (fc5 final). > But in terms of download minimization times the churn of development > automatically means that you'll be getting more download by tracking > fc5t3 -> fc5 final. Good luck. > > -- > Michael Favia michael.favia at insitesinc.com > Insites Incorporated http://michael.insitesinc.com Also, PLEASE do not use HTML when sending to a mail list. Reason 1: It can be dangerous. HTML files can transmit virii. Reason 2: It bloats the file, making for slower downloads, especially for those using phone line connections. HTH, Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA From katzj at redhat.com Sat Feb 25 00:46:18 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:46:18 -0500 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <20060224225847.GO21359@neu.nirvana> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> <43FF53E4.1050309@fedoraproject.org> <20060224225847.GO21359@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <1140828378.12671.9.camel@bree.local.net> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 23:58 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > Be it as it may, both items need resurrection, and it looks like both > will be back. The everything install will NOT be coming back in the UI. Globbing will be supported for the %packages section of kickstart which, as a side effect. Please do everyone a favor by reading the (extremely long and tedious) previous thread on this subject rather than continuing to beat a dead horse. Jeremy From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 25 01:06:26 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:06:26 -0500 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <43FFA3A6.90405@fedoraproject.org> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> <43FF7C93.60507@insight.rr.com> <43FF88D7.4000209@fedoraproject.org> <43FF97A9.8070407@insight.rr.com> <43FF98C0.8090701@fedoraproject.org> <43FFA23A.5080007@insight.rr.com> <43FFA3A6.90405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <43FFAD92.102@insight.rr.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > >> >> All my windows launched end up stuck to the top of my screen and there >> is no way to switch to previously launched applications. The last >> application launched has focus. It appears there is no window manager. >> Metacity is the WM, GNOME is the desktop. > > Is there a bug report on this? . This doesnt happen for me. Does it > happen for anyone else at all? I'll change over to GNOME shortly to see if the problem can be diagnosed enough to make even considering GNOME again as a desktop even worthy for concentration of effort. > >> . If you want something done right, do it yourself, I guess. > > Maybe but you will have to patch every update which is exactly why doing > it locally is a problem for distribution and end users. Exceptions are > made for things like bugs that are fixed before being upstreamed. Keeping the patch count down and not having to maintain patches upon patches is understandable. Customizing a system where it does what the user intends is practical, either as an end user or as a developer. I might take a gander into customizing my biggest rants out of programs and recompiling the rpms. The code is available, why not. > >> >> So having an installer where everything that is on the installation >> disks is never going to happen? > > Dont know. I personally dont want that in the interface though I am not > a Anaconda developer. I am not sure installing things like every > language in the disk is going to be useful. As commented earlier on this thread by another poster, honoring the language selection globally would be desirable for everything but selected language package installations. Since all upstream programs are not packaged in rpms but are later packaged into rpms. I believe rpm needs to contain some language detecting feature where information could later be transferred for use by an installer referencing the particular language selected at install. I realize there are many programs that really have no other rational way to determine what scheme the development project decided to code their language specific components. > Kickstart can be used to shoot yourself in the foot. It allows for > all kind of customisability unless there is a bug. I have not tried to configure or use kickstart yet. Is it possible to glob a simple * for installation within these files? Jim From jvian10 at charter.net Sat Feb 25 02:29:42 2006 From: jvian10 at charter.net (Jeff Vian) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:29:42 -0600 Subject: FC5t3 and the nv driver woes In-Reply-To: <43FF2CF8.6040909@mharris.ca> References: <1140786488.25068.117.camel@eagle.lab.net> <43FF2CF8.6040909@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <1140834583.25068.175.camel@eagle.lab.net> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 10:57 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Jeff Vian wrote: > > I just built a brand new machine and installed FC5t3. The nv driver > > will not work on it. > > > > This is a Giga-Byte GA-K8N Pro-SLI mobo with AMD 64 X2 3800+ dual core > > processor and an eVGA GeForce 6600 PCIe video card. > > > > Installing had to be done in text mode because the graphics install was > > not even partly readable (totally unusable). Text mode had a lot of > > artifacts, but I was able to use it because I am familiar with what was > > expected. > > > > After getting it installed I can boot in text mode and I tried to get X > > working. The only way I can is with the vesa driver, and that is not at > > maximum resolution. The max resolution on my monitor is 1600x1200 but > > the best I can get from the vesa driver is 1280x1024. > > > > If I try to enable the nv driver the screen goes to totally non-readable > > and thus I am presently quite frustrated with this install. > > > > Where do I file a bug? What do I file it against? I assume this would > > be against xorg. Is that correct? Or would it be the nv driver? > > > > So far everything else seems to work well, although I just finished the > > install so have not done a lot of testing as yet. > > http://bugs.freedesktop.org "xorg" product, "nVidia (open)" component. > > HTH > Thanks, bug submitted https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6038 > -- > Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca > Proud Canadian. > From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 02:34:00 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:34:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <43FFA3A6.90405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20060225023400.850.qmail@web52610.mail.yahoo.com> --- Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > > > All my windows launched end up stuck to the top of > my screen and there > > is no way to switch to previously launched > applications. The last > > application launched has focus. It appears there > is no window manager. > > Metacity is the WM, GNOME is the desktop. > > Is there a bug report on this? . This doesnt happen > for me. Does it > happen for anyone else at all? > Yes it happens to me. Firefox even crashes randomly. I use openoffice write and firefox at the same time one looses focus while the other one is open. When firefox crashes I have to reopen it. Until now, I have discovered a program called windows selector in gnome that lets me browse and switch between windows. This program fixes that problem. description: The Window Selector shows a list of all windows and lets you browse them. > > > . If you want something done right, do it > yourself, I guess. > > Maybe but you will have to patch every update which > is exactly why doing > it locally is a problem for distribution and end > users. Exceptions are > made for things like bugs that are fixed before > being upstreamed. > > > > > So having an installer where everything that is on > the installation > > disks is never going to happen? > > Dont know. I personally dont want that in the > interface though I am not > a Anaconda developer. I am not sure installing > things like every > language in the disk is going to be useful. > Kickstart can be used to > shoot yourself in the foot. It allows for all kind > of customisability > unless there is a bug. > > -- > Rahul > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 02:45:44 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:45:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <1140828378.12671.9.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <20060225024544.5310.qmail@web52610.mail.yahoo.com> --- Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 23:58 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > > Be it as it may, both items need resurrection, and > it looks like both > > will be back. > > The everything install will NOT be coming back in > the UI. Globbing will > be supported for the %packages section of kickstart > which, as a side > effect. > > Please do everyone a favor by reading the (extremely > long and tedious) > previous thread on this subject rather than > continuing to beat a dead > horse. > FYI: Here are some links to help http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-January/thread.html Look for FC5T2 ready for even a test release? and follow throughout starts here http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-January/msg01136.html and many messages later the dead horse has taken a pounding and is still dead. cannot come back through artificial means. Regards, Antonio > > Jeremy > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From pato.lukaz at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 02:52:44 2006 From: pato.lukaz at gmail.com (Alberto Patino) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:52:44 -0600 Subject: grub cannot load /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor kernel image Message-ID: <4489a22a0602241852u2bf688c6kd803a628315aa9c7@mail.gmail.com> This will be a long post sorry! I have two disks hda and hdc, hda is loaded with WinXP, FC3, and FC4, all of them are bootable from grub, grub is installed in hdc3 by the way. My second disk had FC4 Test 3 so I thought it was time to test FC5 Test3, so i downloaded the iso images in hda, (I used the hard disk installation method), as I did with FC4 Test 3. Every time I use the hard disk installation I dont install the grub loader, and I used to edit the grub information later directly in my grub.conf file. To make things fast I just created the boot partition in /dev/hdc1 and a volume manager partition to hold the / filesystem and swap in /dev/hdc2: Disk /dev/hdc: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4864 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/hdc2 14 4864 38965657+ 8e Linux LVM I selected ALL the packages to install, by the way I didn't find a global option to select all the packages, so it was a ugly to have to select the packages by groups. Well the installation was fast, so it was the moment to update the grub information to boot my new FC5. I booted to my FC4 system, and I checked the / installation: 1- I mounted my LVM logical volume with the new FC5 installation: (VolGroup01 is the volume group created by FC5 Install) [root at amturing:~]# mount /dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00 /mnt/FC5 [root at amturing:~]# ls /mnt/FC5 bin dev home lost+found misc opt root selinux sys usr boot etc lib media mnt proc sbin srv tmp var 2- I mounted /boot partition from FC5 to copy the names of the kernel images: [root at amturing:~]# mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/tmp/ [root at amturing:~]# cd /mnt/tmp/ [root at amturing:/mnt/tmp]# ls -l total 5076 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 58999 Feb 15 15:35 config-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Feb 13 18:08 grub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1682973 Feb 24 00:33 initrd-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor.img drwx------ 2 root root 12288 Feb 23 18:30 lost+found -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 94600 Feb 8 09:39 memtest86+-1.65 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 812461 Feb 15 15:35 System.map-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1528756 Feb 15 15:35 vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 257054 Feb 15 14:42 xen.gz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 710104 Feb 15 16:09 xen-syms-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 I noted that there was no standar image kernel here, as i read release notes and I suppose that hypervisor is related with xen vmm. Besides the initrd-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor.img it has the date of my installation. With all this new stuff for me I just move to pass 3: 3. I updated my grub information, and booted my machine. The result was annoying Im getting the error 13 from grub: Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format. I Thought I wrote something wrong in my grub.conf file so I enter to grub interactive mode: > root (hd1,0) > kernel (->)TAB and I saw the FC5 kernel images... so I chhose one but the error 13 is there Part of my grub.conf: # This was for using installation disk method title INSTALL FEDORA CORE 5 TEST 3 root (hd0,2) kernel /vmlinuz initrd /initrd.img # The kernel images are in /boot mapped to /dev/hdc1 title FEDORA CORE 5 TEST 3 root (hd1,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor ro root=/dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor.img # These are the images copied to my main /boot directory # but these are not necessary as I used to boot the old FC4 Test3 # as above. # this line was put after I got the error message but it didn't fix the problem title FEDORA CORE 5 TEST 3 (2.6.9-1.667) DISCO2 /dev/hdc 5000 rpm root (hd0,2) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor ro root=/dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor.img Any ideas what is happening? Thanks a lot for your attention Alberto Patino From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sat Feb 25 02:58:41 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:58:41 -0500 Subject: Metacity dumping functionality - sessions needs cleared (was everything install) In-Reply-To: <20060225023400.850.qmail@web52610.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060225023400.850.qmail@web52610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43FFC7E1.8070907@insight.rr.com> Antonio Olivares wrote: >Hi Hello! >>> All my windows launched end up stuck to the top of my screen and >>> there is no way to switch to previously launched applications. >>> The last application launched has focus. It appears there is no >>> window manager. Metacity is the WM, GNOME is the desktop. >> >> Is there a bug report on this? . This doesnt happen for me. Does it >> happen for anyone else at all? Dumping ~/.metacity/sessions/* allows the metacity window manager to function again. Someone earlier posted that clering metacity sessions allowed functionality again to return for them. I decided to try that also, since there was no management for windowing programs. I noticed there were sessions recorded back to June were contained in the sessions before I cleared the sessions. Does metacity tidy up at all or keeps saving all sessions forever? >> > > Yes it happens to me. Firefox even crashes randomly. I use > openoffice write and firefox at the same time one looses focus while > the other one is open. When firefox crashes I have to reopen it. > > Until now, I have discovered a program called windows selector in > gnome that lets me browse and switch between windows. This program > fixes that problem. The window selector was installed in the panel. I believe if there is no window manager, there is nothing that the window selector can detect. I thought to try selecting the applet when the program first failed. > > description: The Window Selector shows a list of all windows and lets > you browse them. > > I will have to try openoffice in conjunction with firefox to see if I see the problem you are having. Back in GNOME, all panels as they were before the metacity overload/corruption. Jim From pato.lukaz at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 02:57:35 2006 From: pato.lukaz at gmail.com (Alberto Patino) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:57:35 -0600 Subject: grub cannot load /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor kernel image In-Reply-To: <4489a22a0602241852u2bf688c6kd803a628315aa9c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <4489a22a0602241852u2bf688c6kd803a628315aa9c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4489a22a0602241857u582fc686n5d4b547930ae45e7@mail.gmail.com> On 2/24/06, Alberto Patino wrote: > This will be a long post sorry! > > I have two disks hda and hdc, hda is loaded with WinXP, FC3, and FC4, > all of them are > bootable from grub, grub is installed in hdc3 by the way. Sorry guys, grub is installed in /dev/hda3, not hdc3, this whas a fatal error, I hope not confuse you sorry From webmanagement at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 03:35:58 2006 From: webmanagement at gmail.com (Andy Hudson) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 03:35:58 +0000 Subject: Problem with removable USB key Message-ID: Hi, I've logged a bug wih bugzilla (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183000) Since updating a few days ago I started to have problems with a removable USB key which is working fine everywhere else. Basically every time I insert it nothing happens, whereas before Gnome would mount it, place an icon on my desktop and open up a new nautilus window with the contents of the memory key. Output from dmesg below: usb 5-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 usb 5-5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 2 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. Vendor: Model: USB DISK 2.0 Rev: PMAP Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 SCSI device sdb: 1970176 512-byte hdwr sectors (1009 MB) sdb: Write Protect is off sdb: Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00 sdb: assuming drive cache: write through SCSI device sdb: 1970176 512-byte hdwr sectors (1009 MB) sdb: Write Protect is off sdb: Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00 sdb: assuming drive cache: write through sdb: sdb1 sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 usb-storage: device scan complete uname -r shows 2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 Anyone had any similar problems with removable devices? Thanks, Andy From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 04:07:33 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:07:33 -0500 Subject: beagle support for kde? Message-ID: I'm just trying out beagle and it seems cool - but not too useful with kde. If I run beagle-search, and I shows something intesting (e.g., website slashdot), then right click offers "open", but it doesn't do anything. Is there some way to configure this to open the appropriate app? From rmo at sunnmore.net Sat Feb 25 05:49:21 2006 From: rmo at sunnmore.net (Roy-Magne Mo) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:49:21 +0100 Subject: rawhide report: 20060224 changes In-Reply-To: <200602240823.k1O8Na44009103@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200602240823.k1O8Na44009103@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1140846561.12231.3.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> fr den 24.02.2006 klokka 03:23 (-0500) skreiv Build System: > kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 > ------------------------ > * Thu Feb 23 2006 Dave Jones > - 2.6.16rc4-git6 I'm getting this error when installing the latest kernel-xen-hypervisor: Running Transaction Installing: kernel-xen-hypervisor ######################### [1/1] grubby: bad argument --mbkernel=/boot/xen.gz-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5: unknown option Installed: kernel-xen-hypervisor.i686 0:2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 Complete! The kernel is not installed in grub.conf atfterwards. grub-0.97-3 BTW -- Roy-Magne Mo From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 06:28:20 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:28:20 -0600 Subject: Kudzu fails with segfault on FC5 Test 3 on HP Pavilion ZE2108WM Notebook In-Reply-To: <20060222170430.GB5568@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1140497548.4061.18.camel@stantonfinley.org> <1140504194.4061.22.camel@stantonfinley.org> <20060221170233.GD3831@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1140542120.3531.6.camel@stantonfinley.org> <20060221171725.GA20995@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <8767947e0602212205v448d1bcdyd1dfc041451283b7@mail.gmail.com> <20060222170430.GB5568@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602242228uedea138hb708383d1de5b756@mail.gmail.com> On 2/22/06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jonathan Berry (berryja at gmail.com) said: > > Is this the same issue as with x86_64 (and nVidia)? Or is there a > > separate bug for that? > > There is a separate bug, and it *should* be fixed with kudzu-1.2.31-1 > in rawhide today. Finally got a chance to install Core 5 Test 3. After updates looks like kudzu does in fact not segfault : ). kudzu-1.2.32-1 Thanks Bill! Jonathan From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sat Feb 25 06:48:19 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:48:19 +1100 Subject: why would a mirror want to hit port 5949 or 15076? In-Reply-To: <1140706567.4956.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140706567.4956.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43FFFDB3.7080207@bigpond.net.au> Brian Millett wrote: > Hello, A question about ports. > > I tried to go to mirror ftp://fedora.namibia.na and when I did, my > firestarter lit up with two events from 196.44.128.220 which is the > fedora.namibia.na site. They were ICMP requests on ports 5949 & 15076. My understanding is that ICMP does not have ports, but does have various types. The ports given seem more like either udp or tcp port numbers... > Why? What are those ports? A google really gave me nothing. ethereal-gnome. Capture everything for your connected net connection. Repeat what you mentioned triggered the detection, then stop the ethereal capture. Try filtering the capture on: icmp tcp udp tcp and not tcp.port==80 (ie filter out normal web port). not tcp.port==80 and see if you/we can make sense of the capture. Perhaps it is really tcp ports for an active ftp connection: this is where when you request a file, the ftp server creates a new inbound data connection to the connected address. Two ways around it: . tell the ftp client to use passive mode instead. . use the ftp application layer gateway (ftp connection track) in iptables. DaveT. From berryja at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 06:38:21 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:38:21 -0600 Subject: SELinux and NSS [was: Problem with NSS update - Firefox, Evolution] In-Reply-To: <43F39E02.9040408@redhat.com> References: <8767947e0601281249w13ed78d9n509371d7fd8b7b59@mail.gmail.com> <43E020A8.5020706@redhat.com> <8767947e0602032205t58ef1e2fs21b2e19dd989c74d@mail.gmail.com> <43E77F6D.3060104@redhat.com> <8767947e0602101921m14e6d08dtd7f10696241741be@mail.gmail.com> <43F0BD88.2070200@redhat.com> <8767947e0602142106o3d8be849ue7610a97cad98902@mail.gmail.com> <43F39E02.9040408@redhat.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602242238r923fdcew1e97af338cbe1909@mail.gmail.com> On 2/15/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Jonathan Berry wrote: > > On 2/13/06, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > [snip] > >> Try setsebool -P allow_execstack=1 > > > > Yes, this allows both Firefox and Evolution to start up normally. > > What exactly does this do? Doesn't appear to be a very security > > conscious fix. Does this just mean that NSS needs an executable stack > > and wasn't given one? > > > > Jonathan > > > Yes. We are investigating why it needs an executable stack. > > Looks like this is an initialization thing. So after the first time you > can turn it off. Although I think flash player needs it too. After installing Core 5 Test 3, I am not seeing any more issues with this. In fact, I had not in my Test 2 (and updates) install after running the above command, but I was not sure if something got fixed or if the command just "stuck." It seems the -P writes the setting to file, but I do not remember completely. I cannot check that since I cannot seem to get a man page for setsebool, even though it is mentioned in the selinux man page. $ man setsebool No manual entry for setsebool Is something wrong here? From "man selinux": SEE ALSO booleans(8), setsebool(8), selinuxenabled(8), togglesebool(8), restore- Jonathan From paul at permanentmail.com Sat Feb 25 06:56:53 2006 From: paul at permanentmail.com (Paul Dickson) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:56:53 -0700 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <43FF13AF.8080603@fedoraproject.org> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> <1140762131.2162.3.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF13AF.8080603@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20060224235653.a4d27730.paul@permanentmail.com> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:09:51 -0500, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > David Nielsen wrote: > > A more grave problem is that on my machine at least it fires up the pop > > up before the applet has been placed so it's often slightly off screen > > and it is the first thing the user sees. Hardly desirable behaviour to > > display a broken error message as the first thing. > > Yep, same thing here. It shows up somewhere partly off-screen on the > left, since the panel hasn't yet finished rendering. Looks really awkward. I get the pop-up, but I don't have the applet on the panel. I've tried to add the nm-applet, but it won't appear. -Paul From buildsys at redhat.com Sat Feb 25 08:16:49 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 03:16:49 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060225 changes Message-ID: <200602250816.k1P8GnSl023832@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: NetworkManager-0.5.1-14.cvs20060221 ----------------------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Dan Williams 0.5.1-14.cvs20060221 - Move libnotify requires to NetworkManager-gnome, not core NM package anaconda-10.92.11-1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.92.11-1 - fix traceback with segv handler (pjones) - various language fixes (dcantrel) - be clearer about askmethod (#182535) chkconfig-1.3.29-1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 24 2006 Bill Nottingham 1.3.29-1 - fix accidental enabling of services on --add (#182729) dictd-1.9.15-6 -------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Karsten Hopp 1.9.15-6 - BuildRequires: byacc e2fsprogs-1.38-9 ---------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Peter Jones - 1.38-9 - _don't_ handle selinux context on blkid.tab, dwalsh says this is a no-no. * Wed Feb 22 2006 Peter Jones - 1.38-8 - handle selinux context on blkid.tab * Mon Feb 20 2006 Karsten Hopp 1.38-7 - BuildRequires: gettext-devel f-spot-0.1.10-1 --------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Christopher Aillon 0.1.10-1 - Update to 0.1.10 firefox-1.5.0.1-5 ----------------- * Mon Feb 20 2006 Christopher Aillon - 1.5.0.1-5 - Rebuild * Mon Feb 20 2006 Christopher Aillon - 1.5.0.1-4 - Ensure our wrapper handles URLs with commas/spaces (Ilya Konstantinov) - Fix a pango typo freeglut-2.4.0-4 ---------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Karsten Hopp 2.4.0-4 - BuildRequires: libGLU-devel gdm-1:2.13.0.8-5 ---------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Ray Strode - 1:2.13.0.8-5 - change some /etc/X11 bits in the spec file to /etc gettext-0.14.5-3 ---------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Karsten Hopp 0.14.5-3 - --disable-csharp, otherwise it'll build a dll when mono is installed in the buildroot. * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.14.5-3 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.14.5-2.2.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes glib2-2.10.0-1 -------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.10.0-1 - Update to 2.10.0 gnome-games-1:2.13.8-1 ---------------------- * Thu Feb 23 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.8-1 - Update to 2.13.8 gnome-mount-0.4-2 ----------------- * Mon Feb 13 2006 David Zeuthen - 0.4-2 - Fix mounting of drives that HAL cannot poll * Mon Feb 13 2006 David Zeuthen - 0.4-1 - Update to upstream version 0.4 * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.4-0.cvs20060213.1.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump gnome-volume-manager-1.5.13-3 ----------------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 David Zeuthen - 1.5.13-3 - Make sure autostart desktop file gets installed in /etc/xdg/autostart * Fri Feb 24 2006 David Zeuthen - 1.5.13-2 - Shuffle some patches around to actually build this thing * Fri Feb 24 2006 David Zeuthen - 1.5.13-1 - Update to upstream release 1.5.13 - Require gnome-mount - Include patch for handling encrypted file systems gtk2-2.8.12-8 ------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Ray Strode - 2.8.12-8 - add dependency on hicolor * Sat Feb 11 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.8.12-7.1 - Update to 2.8.12 * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.8.11-7.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) gtk2-engines-2.7.4-2 -------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.7.4-2 - Backport patches to draw default buttons and inconsistent checkboxes hal-0.5.7-1 ----------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 David Zeuthen - 0.5.7-1 - New upstream version 0.5.7 with several bug fixes - Don't restart hald on package upgrade - Pull in dmidecode on x86-ish and x86_64 architectures - Don't let HAL's Mount() method circumvent system policy (#182352) - Patch to use new pm-utils's new pm-powersave util properly hwdata-0.177-1 -------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Bill Nottingham - 0.177-1 - remove stock videoaliases in favor of driver-specific ones in the X driver packages libX11-1.0.0-3 -------------- * Thu Feb 23 2006 Christopher Aillon - 1.0.0-3 - Look for the versioned libXcursor.so.1 (fixes 179044) mkinitrd-5.0.28-1 ----------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Peter Jones - 5.0.28-1 - Make /dev/efirtc on ia64 boxes (#182598) - Handle selinux contexts on /etc/blkid.tab* since we can't do it in libblkid. - Make building from the "nash" subdir work again - Make getpathbyspec() allocate on the caller's stack, eliminating several memory leaks in callers. - Don't strip nash nautilus-cd-burner-2.13.91-2 ---------------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-2 - Fix a problem with writing iso images (#182358) nss_db-2.2-35 ------------- * Fri Feb 17 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai - 2.2-35 - add missing 'ed' builddep - set LDFLAGS and CPPFLAGS so that our local copy of DB is more likely to be found by the configure script nss_ldap-249-1 -------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai - 249-1 - update to 249, which incorporates the fix for #182464 * Thu Feb 23 2006 Nalin Dahyabhai - 248-3 - fix deadlock in initgroups() (#182464, upstream #255) policycoreutils-1.29.26-2 ------------------------- * Thu Feb 23 2006 Dan Walsh 1.29.26-2 - Change audit2allow to use devel instead of refpolicy * Mon Feb 20 2006 Dan Walsh 1.29.26-1 - Update from upstream * Merged semanage bug fix patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged improve bindings patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged semanage usage patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Merged use PyList patch from Ivan Gyurdiev. * Mon Feb 13 2006 Dan Walsh 1.29.23-1 - Update from upstream * Merged newrole -V/--version support from Glauber de Oliveira Costa. * Merged genhomedircon prefix patch from Dan Walsh. * Merged optionals in base patch from Joshua Brindle. pykickstart-0.22-1 ------------------ * Fri Feb 24 2006 Chris Lumens 0.22-1 - Get ignoredisk working again (#182934). rhpl-0.183-1 ------------ * Fri Feb 24 2006 Chris Lumens 0.183-1 - Fix keyboard layout switching (#173267). scim-1.4.4-6 ------------ * Fri Feb 24 2006 Jens Petersen - 1.4.4-6 - add scim-system-default-config.patch - default to Shared Input Mode (#166841) - use static XIM event flow so deadkeys work under XIM in off state (#169975) - fix paging button placement for vertical candidate windows with scim-1.4.4-candidate-vert-scroll.patch (suzhe) - fix Punjabi spelling with scim-panjabi-punjabi.patch (aalam) * Mon Feb 20 2006 Warren Togami - 1.4.4-5 - Add epoch to iiimf Obsoletes so it actually removes it (#173071) NOTE: The goal of these Obsoletes is for the official supported upgrade path to work smoothly. If users want to use iiimf, they are free to do so but their package must be compatible. * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.4.4-4.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) selinux-policy-2.2.21-7 ----------------------- * Thu Feb 23 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.21-7 - Fixes for new version of cups * Thu Feb 23 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.21-6 - Turn off polyinstatiate util after FC5 * Thu Feb 23 2006 Dan Walsh 2.2.21-5 - Fix problem with privoxy talking to Tor system-config-kickstart-2.6.6-2 ------------------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Chris Lumens 2.6.6-2 - Add requirement for scriptlets (#182865, #182866). udev-084-6 ---------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Harald Hoyer - 084-6 - put back original WAIT_FOR_SYSFS rule * Fri Feb 24 2006 Harald Hoyer - 084-5 - removed WAIT_FOR_SYSFS rule xorg-x11-apps-1.0.1-2 --------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-2 - Added luit-1.0.1-locale.alias-datadir.patch to fix bug (#181785) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating 1.0.1-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating 1.0.1-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes xorg-x11-drv-vga-4.0.0.5-2 -------------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Mike A. Harris 4.0.0.5-2 - Added vga.xinf videoaliases file for ancient hardware (#182953) xorg-x11-xkbdata-1.0.1-4 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 24 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-4 - Actually apply the xkbdata-1.0.1-cz-fix-bug177362.patch patch this time. yum-2.5.3-2 ----------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Jeremy Katz - 2.5.3-2 - fix installyonlyn bug with tokeep > 2 (#176704) Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.i386 requires libopenobex.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.i386 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.i386 requires tomcat4 Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.ia64 requires libopenobex.so.1()(64bit) rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ia64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ia64 requires tomcat4 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.ppc requires libopenobex.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc requires tomcat4 Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.ppc64 requires libopenobex.so.1()(64bit) struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc64 requires tomcat4 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390 requires tomcat4 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390x requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390x requires tomcat4 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.i386 requires libopenobex.so.1 libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.x86_64 requires libopenobex.so.1()(64bit) struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.x86_64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.x86_64 requires tomcat4 From vladimirv at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 08:39:32 2006 From: vladimirv at gmail.com (Vladimir Vukicevic) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:39:32 -0800 Subject: Unable to mount root after upgrade from FC4->FC5t3 Message-ID: <9540d010602250039s31e38500s40cb6d1b57d1e088@mail.gmail.com> After doing an installer-based upgrade from FC4 to FC5t3, at boot I see: scsi0 : ata_piix [...] Loading ahci.ko module Creating root device. Mounting root filesystem. mount: could not find filesystem '/dev/root' Setting up other filesystems. Setting up new root fs setuproot: moving /dev failed: No such file or directory no fstab.sys, mounting internal defaults setuproot: error mounting /proc: No such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /sys: No such file or directory Switching to new root and running init. unmounting old /dev unmounting old /proc unmounting old /sys switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Any idea what the issue is? I can't find any info on what's changed in the boot process (I'm still able to boot my previous 2.6.14 kernels fine), nor do I seem to be able to get a shell in the initrd via init=/bin/sh (just seems to ignore the init kernel option). Note that at upgrade time, I told the installer to not touch my grub config; it just added the new kernel as an option. Thanks, - Vlad From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Sat Feb 25 09:27:44 2006 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 10:27:44 +0100 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <1140828378.12671.9.camel@bree.local.net> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> <43FF53E4.1050309@fedoraproject.org> <20060224225847.GO21359@neu.nirvana> <1140828378.12671.9.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <20060225092744.GA19232@neu.nirvana> On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 07:46:18PM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 23:58 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > > Be it as it may, both items need resurrection, and it looks like both > > will be back. > > The everything install will NOT be coming back in the UI. Globbing will > be supported for the %packages section of kickstart which, as a side > effect. missing half a sentence or was there a "which" too much? > Please do everyone a favor by reading the (extremely long and tedious) > previous thread on this subject rather than continuing to beat a dead > horse. Personally I'm already happy if the kickstart input support will be restored, but the thread is 243 messages long drifting around into off-topic threads (at least wrt to the install-all option) and the couple of messages I picked I hoped to be revealing (I used the author to choose) didn't disclose the real benefit of not allowing everything installs anymore. It wouldn't hurt to summarize the reasoning in a sentence. If the technical bits are there (which obviously will be if it will be supported for kickstart input), then why deprive the user from using the gui/tui to do that? How should the typical user perform an effective everything install? Should he start learning kickstart? It's not a dead horse, there is demand for this feature, and the 243 mail thread on fedora-test-list will be repeated in larger scales on fedora-list once FC5 is out, and will drive the last of us out of fedora-list. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gilboad at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 09:53:11 2006 From: gilboad at gmail.com (Gilboa Davara) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:53:11 +0200 Subject: beagle support for kde? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1140861191.30348.1.camel@gilboa-home-dev.localhost> On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 23:07 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > I'm just trying out beagle and it seems cool - but not too useful with kde. > If I run beagle-search, and I shows something intesting (e.g., website > slashdot), then right click offers "open", but it doesn't do anything. Is > there some way to configure this to open the appropriate app? > I second the above. Maybe Fedora should mirror SUSE efforts in integrating beagle into KDE. (Kerry project) http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1820 Gilboa From vladimirv at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 10:05:03 2006 From: vladimirv at gmail.com (Vladimir Vukicevic) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:05:03 +0100 Subject: Unable to mount root after upgrade from FC4->FC5t3 In-Reply-To: <9540d010602250039s31e38500s40cb6d1b57d1e088@mail.gmail.com> References: <9540d010602250039s31e38500s40cb6d1b57d1e088@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9540d010602250205g234ae5f4nbbac747db3fbb97f@mail.gmail.com> Problem solved -- the initrd image didn't include sd_mod.ko! Hence, no sd* devices were available, and thus no root. Running mkinitrd with --with=sd_mod fixed things -- I'm not sure why mkinitrd isn't picking up on this? I was running a non-FC kernel beforehand, where I had compiled in ata_piix and the various scsi modules while futzing around with trying to get suspend/hibernate to work, so my modprobe.conf and friends had no mention of ata_piix or any of the scsi bits, not sure if that had an effect on the installer. - Vlad On 2/25/06, Vladimir Vukicevic wrote: > After doing an installer-based upgrade from FC4 to FC5t3, at boot I see: > > scsi0 : ata_piix > [...] > Loading ahci.ko module > Creating root device. > Mounting root filesystem. > mount: could not find filesystem '/dev/root' > Setting up other filesystems. > Setting up new root fs > setuproot: moving /dev failed: No such file or directory > no fstab.sys, mounting internal defaults > setuproot: error mounting /proc: No such file or directory > setuproot: error mounting /sys: No such file or directory > Switching to new root and running init. > unmounting old /dev > unmounting old /proc > unmounting old /sys > switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory > Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! > > Any idea what the issue is? I can't find any info on what's changed > in the boot process (I'm still able to boot my previous 2.6.14 kernels > fine), nor do I seem to be able to get a shell in the initrd via > init=/bin/sh (just seems to ignore the init kernel option). Note that > at upgrade time, I told the installer to not touch my grub config; it > just added the new kernel as an option. From rmo at sunnmore.net Sat Feb 25 10:11:31 2006 From: rmo at sunnmore.net (Roy-Magne Mo) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:11:31 +0100 Subject: Problems installing kernel-xen-hypervisor.i686 0:2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 Message-ID: <1140862291.12231.15.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> >From todays rawhide, but didn't install properly with yesterdays either. regular x86 btw Running Transaction Installing: kernel-xen-hypervisor ######################### [1/1] *** glibc detected *** /sbin/grubby: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0xbfdb0420 *** ======= Backtrace: ========= /lib/i686/nosegneg/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x17b)[0x6a0000] /sbin/grubby[0x804fd12] /sbin/grubby[0x804fe73] /sbin/grubby[0x8050c9e] /lib/i686/nosegneg/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc)[0x64d7a4] /sbin/grubby[0x804a001] ======= Memory map: ======== 0023e000-0023f000 r-xp 0023e000 00:00 0 [vdso] 0061b000-00634000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2523153 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so 00634000-00635000 r-xp 00018000 fd:00 2523153 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so 00635000-00636000 rwxp 00019000 fd:00 2523153 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so 00638000-0075e000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2523212 /lib/i686/nosegneg/libc-2.3.90.so 0075e000-00761000 r-xp 00125000 fd:00 2523212 /lib/i686/nosegneg/libc-2.3.90.so 00761000-00762000 rwxp 00128000 fd:00 2523212 /lib/i686/nosegneg/libc-2.3.90.so 00762000-00765000 rwxp 00762000 00:00 0 00992000-0099d000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 2523281 /lib/libgcc_s-4.1.0-20060219.so.1 0099d000-0099e000 rwxp 0000a000 fd:00 2523281 /lib/libgcc_s-4.1.0-20060219.so.1 08048000-08089000 r-xp 00000000 fd:00 1507359 /sbin/grubby 08089000-0808c000 rw-p 00041000 fd:00 1507359 /sbin/grubby 0808c000-08094000 rw-p 0808c000 00:00 0 09d17000-09d74000 rw-p 09d17000 00:00 0 [heap] b7faa000-b7fab000 rw-p b7faa000 00:00 0 b7fb2000-b7fb3000 rw-p b7fb2000 00:00 0 bfd9d000-bfdb3000 rw-p bfd9d000 00:00 0 [stack] /sbin/new-kernel-pkg: line 89: 2327 Aborted /sbin/grubby --add-kernel= $bootPrefix/$kernelName-$version $INITRD --copy-default $makedefault --title "$title" ${mbkernel:+--add-multiboot="$mbkernel"} ${mbargs: +--mbargs="$mbargs"} --args="root=$rootdevice $kernargs" --remove-kernel="TITLE=$title" Installed: kernel-xen-hypervisor.i686 0:2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 Complete! From marian_kopala at wp.pl Sat Feb 25 16:20:49 2006 From: marian_kopala at wp.pl (Marian Kopala) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:20:49 -0500 Subject: kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 Message-ID: <1140884449.10471.3.camel@amigos> Welcome! After install development package: rpm -ivh kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5.i686.rpm Przygotowywanie... ########################################### [100%] 1:kernel ########################################### [100%] *** glibc detected *** /sbin/grubby: double free or corruption (out): 0xbfd9c840 *** ======= Backtrace: ========= /lib/libc.so.6[0x164de8] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x79)[0x1682ed] /sbin/grubby[0x804fd12] /sbin/grubby[0x804feb1] /sbin/grubby[0x8050c9e] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc)[0x1167a4] /sbin/grubby[0x804a001] ======= Memory map: ======== 00101000-00224000 r-xp 00000000 03:41 7881689 /lib/libc-2.3.90.so 00224000-00227000 r-xp 00122000 03:41 7881689 /lib/libc-2.3.90.so 00227000-00228000 rwxp 00125000 03:41 7881689 /lib/libc-2.3.90.so 00228000-0022b000 rwxp 00228000 00:00 0 0046e000-00479000 r-xp 00000000 03:41 7881702 /lib/libgcc_s-4.1.0-20060219.so.1 00479000-0047a000 rwxp 0000a000 03:41 7881702 /lib/libgcc_s-4.1.0-20060219.so.1 0054e000-0054f000 r-xp 0054e000 00:00 0 [vdso] 00d7c000-00d95000 r-xp 00000000 03:41 7881682 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so 00d95000-00d96000 r-xp 00018000 03:41 7881682 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so 00d96000-00d97000 rwxp 00019000 03:41 7881682 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so 08048000-08089000 r-xp 00000000 03:41 5625123 /sbin/grubby 08089000-0808c000 rw-p 00041000 03:41 5625123 /sbin/grubby 0808c000-08094000 rw-p 0808c000 00:00 0 08af7000-08b18000 rw-p 08af7000 00:00 0 [heap] b7e00000-b7e21000 rw-p b7e00000 00:00 0 b7e21000-b7f00000 ---p b7e21000 00:00 0 b7f7a000-b7f7c000 rw-p b7f7a000 00:00 0 bfd89000-bfd9e000 rw-p bfd89000 00:00 0 [stack] /sbin/new-kernel-pkg: line 89: 10452 Przerwane /sbin/grubby --add-kernel= $bootPrefix/$kernelName-$version $INITRD --copy-default $makedefault --title "$title" ${mbkernel:+--add-multiboot="$mbkernel"} ${mbargs: +--mbargs="$mbargs"} --args="root=$rootdevice $kernargs" --remove-kernel="TITLE=$title" Marian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: To jest cz??? listu podpisana cyfrowo URL: From Liste at famillecollet.com Sat Feb 25 09:39:11 2006 From: Liste at famillecollet.com (Remi Collet) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 10:39:11 +0100 Subject: FC5T3 : External firewire disk not working Message-ID: <440025BF.70309@FamilleCollet.com> Using a FC5T3 with full update (kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5, udev-084-6...) I have a external drive connected to firewire (working very well with FC4). On boot, from /var/log/messages Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: Badness in get_phy_reg at drivers/ieee1394/ohci1394.c:235 (Not tainted) Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] get_phy_reg+0x7a/0xe2 [ohci1394] [] ohci_devctl+0x46/0x57f [ohci1394] Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] ohci_irq_handler+0x2ab/0x6be [ohci1394] [] handle_IRQ_event+0x23/0x4c Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] __do_IRQ+0x7a/0xcd [] do_IRQ+0x5c/0x77 Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: ======================= Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20 [] _spin_unlock_irqrestore+0xa/0xc Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] ohci_devctl+0x5a/0x57f [ohci1394] [] csr1212_generate_csr_image+0x308/0x35d [ieee1394] Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] _spin_unlock_irq+0x5/0x7 [] schedule+0x4a1/0x4ff Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] hpsb_reset_bus+0x1c/0x22 [ieee1394] [] run_workqueue+0x7a/0xb5 Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] delayed_reset_bus+0x0/0xca [ieee1394] [] worker_thread+0x0/0x11c Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] worker_thread+0xec/0x11c [] _spin_unlock_irq+0x5/0x7 Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] schedule+0x4a1/0x4ff [] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] kthread+0x91/0xbd [] kthread+0x0/0xbd Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] kernel_thread_helper+0x5/0xb Badness in set_phy_reg at drivers/ieee1394/ohci1394.c:264 (Not tainted) Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] set_phy_reg+0x84/0xd1 [ohci1394] Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] ohci_devctl+0x5a/0x57f [ohci1394] [] ohci_irq_handler+0x2ab/0x6be [ohci1394] Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] handle_IRQ_event+0x23/0x4c [] __do_IRQ+0x7a/0xcd Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] do_IRQ+0x5c/0x77 ======================= Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20 Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] _spin_unlock_irqrestore+0xa/0xc [] ohci_devctl+0x5a/0x57f [ohci1394] Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] csr1212_generate_csr_image+0x308/0x35d [ieee1394] [] _spin_unlock_irq+0x5/0x7 Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] schedule+0x4a1/0x4ff [] hpsb_reset_bus+0x1c/0x22 [ieee1394] Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] run_workqueue+0x7a/0xb5 [] delayed_reset_bus+0x0/0xca [ieee1394] Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] worker_thread+0x0/0x11c [] worker_thread+0xec/0x11c Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] _spin_unlock_irq+0x5/0x7 [] schedule+0x4a1/0x4ff Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc [] kthread+0x91/0xbd Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] kthread+0x0/0xbd [] kernel_thread_helper+0x5/0xb Feb 25 10:03:34 remi kernel: ohci1394: fw-host0: SelfID received outside of bus reset sequence And when "hotpluging" the disk : Feb 25 10:07:08 remi kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023 Have an idea or should i record in bugzilla ? Remi. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sat Feb 25 10:51:35 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:51:35 +1100 Subject: REQUEST FOR TESTERS: xorg-x11-fonts-7.0-2 - OK In-Reply-To: <43FF3FED.4030604@cox.net> References: <43FF294A.9080800@redhat.com> <43FF3FED.4030604@cox.net> Message-ID: <440036B7.4000702@bigpond.net.au> Mike A. Harris wrote: > I've built new xorg-x11-fonts packages to attempt to resolve > bug #173875. The new packages seem to resolve the issue fine > for me with local testing. ... > Please download the following font rpms, and upgrade to all > of them with "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" and report back any error messages > that occur, No error messages during rpm transaction. > or any problems that occur after upgrading to the > new packages. Please reboot your system so that xfs, the > X server, and whatnot are all completely restarted to maximize > the testing benefit. After reboot, no noticeable difference from my point of view. I hadn't previously had any trouble relating to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=173875 > The idea here is to try to avoid last minute catastrophes from > entering the fray. "International Rescue" was not required :) DaveT. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sat Feb 25 10:30:32 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:30:32 +1100 Subject: REQUEST FOR TESTERS: xorg-x11-fonts-7.0-2 - tested OK. In-Reply-To: <43FF3FED.4030604@cox.net> References: <43FF294A.9080800@redhat.com> <43FF3FED.4030604@cox.net> Message-ID: <440031C8.2080105@bigpond.net.au> Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > Mike A. Harris wrote: >> I've built new xorg-x11-fonts packages to attempt to resolve >> bug #173875. The new packages seem to resolve the issue fine >> for me with local testing. ... >> Please download the following font rpms, and upgrade to all >> of them with "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" and report back any error messages >> that occur, No error messages during rpm transaction. or any problems that occur after upgrading to the >> new packages. Please reboot your system so that xfs, the >> X server, and whatnot are all completely restarted to maximize >> the testing benefit. After reboot, no noticeable difference from my point of view. I hadn't previously had any trouble relating to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=173875 >> The idea here is to try to avoid last minute catastrophes from >> entering the fray. "International Rescue" was not required :) DaveT. From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Sat Feb 25 11:57:40 2006 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:57:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: FC5T3 : External firewire disk not working In-Reply-To: <440025BF.70309@FamilleCollet.com> Message-ID: <20060225115740.6229.qmail@web86604.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> See bug reports 181494 and 173085 to see progress on this issue. --- Remi Collet wrote: > Using a FC5T3 with full update > (kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5, udev-084-6...) > > I have a external drive connected to firewire > (working very well with FC4). > > On boot, from /var/log/messages > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: Badness in get_phy_reg > at > drivers/ieee1394/ohci1394.c:235 (Not tainted) > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > get_phy_reg+0x7a/0xe2 > [ohci1394] [] ohci_devctl+0x46/0x57f > [ohci1394] > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > ohci_irq_handler+0x2ab/0x6be > [ohci1394] [] > handle_IRQ_event+0x23/0x4c > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > __do_IRQ+0x7a/0xcd > [] do_IRQ+0x5c/0x77 > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: > ======================= > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20 [] > _spin_unlock_irqrestore+0xa/0xc > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > ohci_devctl+0x5a/0x57f > [ohci1394] [] > csr1212_generate_csr_image+0x308/0x35d > [ieee1394] > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > _spin_unlock_irq+0x5/0x7 > [] schedule+0x4a1/0x4ff > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > hpsb_reset_bus+0x1c/0x22 > [ieee1394] [] run_workqueue+0x7a/0xb5 > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > delayed_reset_bus+0x0/0xca > [ieee1394] [] worker_thread+0x0/0x11c > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > worker_thread+0xec/0x11c > [] _spin_unlock_irq+0x5/0x7 > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > schedule+0x4a1/0x4ff > [] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > kthread+0x91/0xbd > [] kthread+0x0/0xbd > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > kernel_thread_helper+0x5/0xb Badness in > set_phy_reg at > drivers/ieee1394/ohci1394.c:264 (Not tainted) > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > set_phy_reg+0x84/0xd1 [ohci1394] > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > ohci_devctl+0x5a/0x57f > [ohci1394] [] > ohci_irq_handler+0x2ab/0x6be [ohci1394] > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > handle_IRQ_event+0x23/0x4c [] > __do_IRQ+0x7a/0xcd > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > do_IRQ+0x5c/0x77 > ======================= > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20 > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > _spin_unlock_irqrestore+0xa/0xc [] > ohci_devctl+0x5a/0x57f > [ohci1394] > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > csr1212_generate_csr_image+0x308/0x35d [ieee1394] > [] > _spin_unlock_irq+0x5/0x7 > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > schedule+0x4a1/0x4ff > [] hpsb_reset_bus+0x1c/0x22 [ieee1394] > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > run_workqueue+0x7a/0xb5 > [] delayed_reset_bus+0x0/0xca [ieee1394] > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > worker_thread+0x0/0x11c > [] worker_thread+0xec/0x11c > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > _spin_unlock_irq+0x5/0x7 > [] schedule+0x4a1/0x4ff > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > default_wake_function+0x0/0xc [] > kthread+0x91/0xbd > Feb 25 10:03:33 remi kernel: [] > kthread+0x0/0xbd > [] kernel_thread_helper+0x5/0xb > Feb 25 10:03:34 remi kernel: ohci1394: fw-host0: > SelfID received outside > of bus reset sequence > > And when "hotpluging" the disk : > Feb 25 10:07:08 remi kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing > configrom for node > 0-00:1023 > > > Have an idea or should i record in bugzilla ? > > Remi. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From off_by_1 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 11:02:43 2006 From: off_by_1 at yahoo.com (Mick Mearns) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 03:02:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: FC5T3 : External firewire disk not working In-Reply-To: <440025BF.70309@FamilleCollet.com> Message-ID: <20060225110243.73343.qmail@web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Remi Collet wrote: > Using a FC5T3 with full update (kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5, > udev-084-6...) > > I have a external drive connected to firewire (working very well with > FC4). > And when "hotpluging" the disk : > Feb 25 10:07:08 remi kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for > node > 0-00:1023 > > Hi; I had the same problem. I did an 'lsmod' and wrote down the USB and ieee1394 stufff. Then I booted 'kubuntu 5.10' DVD. This detected the drive and I was able to mount it as ext3. So I did a 'lsmod' - noticed that 'sbp2' was enabled. Went back to FC5T3 and did a 'modprobe sbp2' Was then able to use the drive. I put this command in '/etc/rc.d/rc.local' so it is done at boot. Mick M Death before Decaf!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From pb at partha.com Sat Feb 25 12:40:22 2006 From: pb at partha.com (Partha Bagchi) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:40:22 -0500 Subject: The Latest Power Manager Message-ID: <44005036.1030805@partha.com> The latest power manager is competing with the previous one to be the silliest one of all. It is getting sillier and sillier to use the piece of abomination especially when it has no exit button, I do not (which part of not is difficult to understand??) want to use it. Now I have no way of telling it to do nothing. Unplugging the power puts it in suspend mode immediately. Considering that the wireless (Broadcom bcm43xx) is not mature enough (starts with network disconnected balloon), it is an immediate pain in the butt to reactivate it. Also, since the wireless is built into the Kernel, no way to get rid of that one either!! Please give it a rest and include a button to exit from it so that I do not have to 86 it every time I start the computer. BTW, in case it is not clear, I am using this on a laptop. Sheesh! uname -a : Linux 2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 #1 SMP Thu Feb 23 14:55:24 EST 2006 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux From mike at miketc.com Sat Feb 25 12:59:08 2006 From: mike at miketc.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:59:08 -0600 Subject: kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 In-Reply-To: <1140884449.10471.3.camel@amigos> References: <1140884449.10471.3.camel@amigos> Message-ID: <1140872348.18727.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 11:20 -0500, Marian Kopala wrote: > rpm -ivh kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5.i686.rpm > Przygotowywanie... ########################################### > [100%] > 1:kernel ########################################### > [100%] > *** glibc detected *** /sbin/grubby: double free or corruption (out): > 0xbfd9c840 *** > ======= Backtrace: ========= > /lib/libc.so.6[0x164de8] > /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x79)[0x1682ed] > /sbin/grubby[0x804fd12] > /sbin/grubby[0x804feb1] > /sbin/grubby[0x8050c9e] > /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc)[0x1167a4] > /sbin/grubby[0x804a001] > ======= Memory map: ======== > 00101000-00224000 r-xp 00000000 03:41 7881689 /lib/libc-2.3.90.so > 00224000-00227000 r-xp 00122000 03:41 7881689 /lib/libc-2.3.90.so > 00227000-00228000 rwxp 00125000 03:41 7881689 /lib/libc-2.3.90.so > 00228000-0022b000 rwxp 00228000 00:00 0 > 0046e000-00479000 r-xp 00000000 03:41 > 7881702 /lib/libgcc_s-4.1.0-20060219.so.1 > 00479000-0047a000 rwxp 0000a000 03:41 > 7881702 /lib/libgcc_s-4.1.0-20060219.so.1 > 0054e000-0054f000 r-xp 0054e000 00:00 0 [vdso] > 00d7c000-00d95000 r-xp 00000000 03:41 7881682 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so > 00d95000-00d96000 r-xp 00018000 03:41 7881682 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so > 00d96000-00d97000 rwxp 00019000 03:41 7881682 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so > 08048000-08089000 r-xp 00000000 03:41 5625123 /sbin/grubby > 08089000-0808c000 rw-p 00041000 03:41 5625123 /sbin/grubby > 0808c000-08094000 rw-p 0808c000 00:00 0 > 08af7000-08b18000 rw-p 08af7000 00:00 0 [heap] > b7e00000-b7e21000 rw-p b7e00000 00:00 0 > b7e21000-b7f00000 ---p b7e21000 00:00 0 > b7f7a000-b7f7c000 rw-p b7f7a000 00:00 0 > bfd89000-bfd9e000 rw-p bfd89000 00:00 0 [stack] > /sbin/new-kernel-pkg: line 89: 10452 > Przerwane /sbin/grubby --add-kernel= > $bootPrefix/$kernelName-$version $INITRD --copy-default $makedefault > --title "$title" ${mbkernel:+--add-multiboot="$mbkernel"} ${mbargs: > +--mbargs="$mbargs"} --args="root=$rootdevice $kernargs" > --remove-kernel="TITLE=$title" I got the same thing when updating to Dave's kernel packages, .1980 version. Glibc problem? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt, then it's hilarious!" From jvian10 at charter.net Sat Feb 25 13:02:14 2006 From: jvian10 at charter.net (Jeff Vian) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:02:14 -0600 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <20060225092744.GA19232@neu.nirvana> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> <43FF53E4.1050309@fedoraproject.org> <20060224225847.GO21359@neu.nirvana> <1140828378.12671.9.camel@bree.local.net> <20060225092744.GA19232@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <1140872534.25068.187.camel@eagle.lab.net> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 10:27 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 07:46:18PM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 23:58 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > > > Be it as it may, both items need resurrection, and it looks like both > > > will be back. > > > > The everything install will NOT be coming back in the UI. Globbing will > > be supported for the %packages section of kickstart which, as a side > > effect. > > missing half a sentence or was there a "which" too much? > > > Please do everyone a favor by reading the (extremely long and tedious) > > previous thread on this subject rather than continuing to beat a dead > > horse. > > Personally I'm already happy if the kickstart input support will be > restored, but the thread is 243 messages long drifting around into > off-topic threads (at least wrt to the install-all option) and the > couple of messages I picked I hoped to be revealing (I used the author > to choose) didn't disclose the real benefit of not allowing everything > installs anymore. > > It wouldn't hurt to summarize the reasoning in a sentence. If the > technical bits are there (which obviously will be if it will be > supported for kickstart input), then why deprive the user from using > the gui/tui to do that? How should the typical user perform an > effective everything install? Should he start learning kickstart? > > It's not a dead horse, there is demand for this feature, and the 243 > mail thread on fedora-test-list will be repeated in larger scales on > fedora-list once FC5 is out, and will drive the last of us out of > fedora-list. I for one, would not ever do an "everything" install again. After having needed to remove several hundred megabytes (very close to a gigabyte) of packages one at a time to get rid of the other language packages it installed for man pages, docs, aspell, OOo, and others it was just too much that should have not been installed. If the logic can be refined to install everything, but only in the language being used to do the install, then it *might* be appealing. > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Sat Feb 25 13:08:03 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:08:03 +0000 Subject: FC5T3: Why only so few screensavers available to choose in in KDE? Message-ID: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> Hi, For some reason I can see only very limited number of screensavers (21 in total) in KDE Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Screen Saver panel. I know there are plenty more installed since choosing "Random" option will result in screensaver I cannot choose manually. Worse yet, half of the available ones are OpenGL (10) that do not seem to work on my hardware :( I have a full list on FC3 box but not on FC5t3... Is this supoosed to be this way? Why? Regards, Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 14:07:39 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:07:39 -0500 Subject: FC5T3: Why only so few screensavers available to choose in in KDE? In-Reply-To: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> References: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <91f88ee20602250607i27106bc1x92bf4578dacd02e3@mail.gmail.com> On 2/25/06, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > Hi, > > For some reason I can see only very limited number of screensavers (21 > in total) in KDE Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Screen Saver > panel. I know there are plenty more installed since choosing "Random" > option will result in screensaver I cannot choose manually. Worse yet, > half of the available ones are OpenGL (10) that do not seem to work on > my hardware :( I have a full list on FC3 box but not on FC5t3... > > Is this supoosed to be this way? Why? Not real sure why your listing is shorter but I do know that if you choose "random" screen saver all the files located in the xscreensaver directory will be used, randomly, even if they are not listed as "choosable." -- WC Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Sat Feb 25 14:16:32 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:16:32 +0100 Subject: kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 In-Reply-To: <1140872348.18727.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> References: <1140884449.10471.3.camel@amigos> <1140872348.18727.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> Message-ID: <1140876993.2991.16.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 06:59 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 11:20 -0500, Marian Kopala wrote: > > > rpm -ivh kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5.i686.rpm > > Przygotowywanie... ########################################### > > [100%] > > 1:kernel ########################################### > > [100%] > > *** glibc detected *** /sbin/grubby: double free or corruption (out): > Glibc problem? no grubby problem :) glibc is just the messenger here From mclasen at redhat.com Sat Feb 25 14:40:41 2006 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:40:41 -0500 Subject: beagle support for kde? In-Reply-To: <1140861191.30348.1.camel@gilboa-home-dev.localhost> References: <1140861191.30348.1.camel@gilboa-home-dev.localhost> Message-ID: <1140878442.2626.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 11:53 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 23:07 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > > I'm just trying out beagle and it seems cool - but not too useful with kde. > > If I run beagle-search, and I shows something intesting (e.g., website > > slashdot), then right click offers "open", but it doesn't do anything. Is > > there some way to configure this to open the appropriate app? > > > > I second the above. > > Maybe Fedora should mirror SUSE efforts in integrating beagle into KDE. > (Kerry project) > http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1820 > Packaging it for Extras would be the first step, if you are interested in seeing this in Fedora... Matthias From katzj at redhat.com Sat Feb 25 15:02:32 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 10:02:32 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060224 changes In-Reply-To: <1140846561.12231.3.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> References: <200602240823.k1O8Na44009103@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1140846561.12231.3.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> Message-ID: <1140879752.2415.31.camel@bree.local.net> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 06:49 +0100, Roy-Magne Mo wrote: > fr den 24.02.2006 klokka 03:23 (-0500) skreiv Build System: > > kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 > > ------------------------ > > * Thu Feb 23 2006 Dave Jones > > - 2.6.16rc4-git6 > > I'm getting this error when installing the latest kernel-xen-hypervisor: > Running Transaction > Installing: kernel-xen-hypervisor ######################### > [1/1] > grubby: bad argument --mbkernel=/boot/xen.gz-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5: unknown > option This should be fixed in mkinitrd 5.0.28 Jeremy From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sat Feb 25 15:06:23 2006 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:06:23 +0000 Subject: Exception During Install FC5t3 Message-ID: <1140879983.4128.68.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Hi, I tried to install FC5t3 from CD. I had a Win XP partition and FC4 partition. I selected to install in the FC4 partition allowing Anaconda to use the default geometry. (I'm afraid I didn't take notes so that's why this is a bit vague). Anaconda then said "Starting install process. This may take several minutes..." and I then got an Exception Occurred message which I've attempted to reproduce below. Looking at the exception I feel I should also mention that I selected not to use the NIC it detected (because the NIC I want to use (WiFi) wasn't detected). Leon... --- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1253, in handleRenderCallback self.currentWindow.renderCallback() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/iw/progress_gui.py", line 245, in renderCallback self.intf.icw.nextClicked() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 951, in nextClicked self.dispatch.gotoNext() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 146, in gotoNext self.moveStep() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 217, in moveStep rc = apply(func, self.bindArgs(args)) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/backend.py", line 160, in doInstall backend.doInstall(intf, id, instPath) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py", line 901, in doInstall self.ayum.run(self.instLog, cb, intf) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py", line 245, in run self.populateTs(keepold=0) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py", line 482, in populateTs self.downloadHeader(txmbr.po) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py", line 546, in downloadHeader yum.YumBase.downloadHeader(self, po) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 708, in downloadHeader cache=repo.http_caching != 'none', File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/repos.py", line 625, in get http_headers=headers, File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/mirror.py", line 424, in urlgrab return self._mirror_try(func, url, kw) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/mirror.py", line 400, in _mirror_try retyrn func_ref( *(fullurl,), **kwargs ) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 618, in urlgrab return self._retry(opts, retryfunc, url, filename) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 547, in _retry return apply(func, (opts,) + args, {}) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 606, in retryfunc fo._do_grab() File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 924, in _do_grab block = self.read(bs) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 987, in read self._fill_buffer(amt) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 967, in _fill_buffer new = self.fo.read(readamount) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/byterange.py", line 148, in read rslt = self.fo.read(size) IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error Local variables in innermost frame: self: intf.ppw.wrappedpixlist: 0 intf.ppw.pixtimer: None intf.ppw.adpix: intf.ppw.curPackage: {'summary': , 'package': } infw.ppw.estimateHistory: [] intf.ppw.ics: InstallControlState instance, containing members: intf.ppw.ics.helpButtonEnabled: False intf.ppw.ics.searchPath: ('/mnt/source/RHupdates', '/tmp/updates', './', '/usr/share/anaconda/') intf.ppw.ics.grabNext: True intf.ppw.ics.title: Installing Packages intf.ppw.ics.htmlFile: installing intf.ppw.ics.html: intf.ppw.ics.helpEnabled: True intf.ppw.ics.nextEnabled: False intf.ppw.ics.prevEnabled: False intf.ppw.ics.cw: InstallControlWindow instance, containing memebers: intf.ppw.ics.cw.displayHelp: False intf.ppw.ics.cw.releaseNotesViewerPid: None intf.ppw.ics.cw.handle: 788 intf.ppw.ics.cw.releaseNotesStartViewerAttempts: 0 intf.ppw.ics.cw.releaseNotesType: text intf.ppw.ics.cw.mainxml: intf.ppw.ics.cw.dispatch: Already dumped intf.ppw.ics.cw.reloadRcQueued: 0 intf.ppw.ics.cw.ii: Already dumped intf.ppw.ics.cw.currentWindow: Already dumped intf.ppw.ics.cw.window: intf.ppw.ics.cw.InstallFrame: intf.ppw.ics.cw.releaseNotesStartViewer: 0 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id: InstallData instance, containing members: intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.dbpath: None intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.firewall: Firewall instance, containing members: intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.firewall.portlist: [22:tcp] intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.firewall.trustdevs: [] intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.firewwall.enabled: 1 int.ppw.ics.cw.id.rootParts: [('hda2', 'ext3', 'Fedora Core 4')] int.ppw.ics.cw.id.upgradeDeps: int.ppw.ics.cw.id.upgradeRoot: [('hda2', 'ext3')] int.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup: XSetup instance, containing members: intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.skipx: 0 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.imposed_sane_default: 0 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate: XF86HardwareState instance, containing members: intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.probed_physical_height: 220 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.probed_video_ram: 32768 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.videocard_PCIBus: None intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.colordepth: 16 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.monitor_name: Toshiba TOS5082 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.dri_enabled: 1 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.monitor: monName: Toshiba TOS5082 monId: DDCPROBED monHoriz: 31-48 monVert: 50-70 physicalWidth: 290 physicalHeight: 220 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.videocard_name: TridentMicrosystems CyberBlade XP4m32 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.video_ram: 0 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.videocard_driver: trident intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.videocard_options: [] intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.vsync: 50-70 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.physical_height: 220 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.probed_vsync: 50-70 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.physical_width: 290 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.hsync: 31-48 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.xconfig: None intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.all_resolutions: [640x480, 800x480, 800x600, 1024x600, 1024x768, 1152x864, 1280x800, 1280x960, 1280x1024, 1400x1050, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1900x1200, 1920x1200, 1920x1440, 2048x1536] intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.videocard: primary: 0 vidCards: [] Primary Video Card Info: device: None driver: trident descr: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade xP4m32 vidRam: 32768 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.videocard_PCIFn: None intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.probed_hsync: 31-48 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.resolution 800x600 intf.ppw.ics.cw.id.xsetup.xhwstate.videocard_PCIDev: None int.ppw.ics.cw.id.accounts: int.ppw.ics.cw.id.keyboard: Keyboard instance, containing members: ... I'm giving up typing now. If we're going to have exceptions this big we need a way to transfer them off the affected computer... From gilboad at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 15:09:38 2006 From: gilboad at gmail.com (Gilboa Davara) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:09:38 +0200 Subject: beagle support for kde? In-Reply-To: <1140878442.2626.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140861191.30348.1.camel@gilboa-home-dev.localhost> <1140878442.2626.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1140880178.30348.8.camel@gilboa-home-dev.localhost> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 09:40 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 11:53 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 23:07 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > > > I'm just trying out beagle and it seems cool - but not too useful with kde. > > > If I run beagle-search, and I shows something intesting (e.g., website > > > slashdot), then right click offers "open", but it doesn't do anything. Is > > > there some way to configure this to open the appropriate app? > > > > > > > I second the above. > > > > Maybe Fedora should mirror SUSE efforts in integrating beagle into KDE. > > (Kerry project) > > http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1820 > > > > Packaging it for Extras would be the first step, if you are interested > in seeing this in Fedora... > > Matthias > Already thought about it. However, I couldn't find the project page for it. I wonder if it's an internal project @SUSE? (E.g. Compiz) Gilboa From roger at gwch.net Sat Feb 25 15:19:25 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:19:25 +0100 Subject: Gnome crashing on login after todays update Message-ID: <1140880766.4209.1.camel@niobe> Hey, after todays update, gnome crashes: - it says, i will start in secure mode - it says g-p-m crashed (twice) i can run it in secure mode, no problem. Logs not saying anything. Roger From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Sat Feb 25 15:20:54 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:20:54 +0000 Subject: FC5T3: Why only so few screensavers available to choose in in KDE? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602250607i27106bc1x92bf4578dacd02e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> <91f88ee20602250607i27106bc1x92bf4578dacd02e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440075D6.3040808@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/25/2006 02:07 PM, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > On 2/25/06, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> Hi, >> >> For some reason I can see only very limited number of screensavers (21 >> in total) in KDE Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Screen Saver >> panel. I know there are plenty more installed since choosing "Random" >> option will result in screensaver I cannot choose manually. Worse yet, >> half of the available ones are OpenGL (10) that do not seem to work on >> my hardware :( I have a full list on FC3 box but not on FC5t3... >> >> Is this supoosed to be this way? Why? > > Not real sure why your listing is shorter but I do know that if you > choose "random" screen saver all the files located in the xscreensaver > directory will be used, randomly, even if they are not listed as > "choosable." Exactly! They show up at "Random" setting but I cannot select them if I wanted particular one. Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From mike at miketc.com Sat Feb 25 15:42:08 2006 From: mike at miketc.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:42:08 -0600 Subject: rawhide report: 20060224 changes In-Reply-To: <1140879752.2415.31.camel@bree.local.net> References: <200602240823.k1O8Na44009103@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1140846561.12231.3.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> <1140879752.2415.31.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1140882128.1916.0.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 10:02 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > This should be fixed in mkinitrd 5.0.28 Which should appear in tomorrow's rawhide or somewhere else? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt, then it's hilarious!" From roger at gwch.net Sat Feb 25 16:05:02 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:05:02 +0100 Subject: howto set kde as standard in the shell? Message-ID: <1140883502.2942.0.camel@niobe> hello, since todays update, i cannot choose kde as an alternative gui. where can i set i manually? Thanks, Roger From miles.lane at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 16:06:54 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:06:54 -0800 Subject: Why does beagle require enlightenment? Message-ID: I don't like Evolution. I prefer GMail and Yahoo Calendar, but am still interested in Beagle's searching functionality. Thanks, Miles From miles.lane at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 16:08:55 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:08:55 -0800 Subject: Why does beagle require _evolution_? (sorry for putting enlightenment in before) Message-ID: On 2/25/06, Miles Lane wrote: > I don't like Evolution. I prefer GMail and Yahoo Calendar, but am > still interested in Beagle's searching functionality. > > Thanks, > Miles > From ch at code-heads.com Sat Feb 25 16:11:47 2006 From: ch at code-heads.com (CodeHeads) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:11:47 -0500 Subject: howto set kde as standard in the shell? In-Reply-To: <1140883502.2942.0.camel@niobe> References: <1140883502.2942.0.camel@niobe> Message-ID: <1140883907.13200.0.camel@FC5> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 17:05 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > hello, > > since todays update, i cannot choose kde as an alternative gui. where > can i set i manually? > > Thanks, > Roger > I believe it is in /etc/sysconfig/desktop -- Best regards, ~WILL~ Key: http://code-heads.com/keys/ch1.asc Key: http://code-heads.com/keys/ch2.asc Linux Commands: http://code-heads.com/commands Linux Registered User: 406084 (http://counter.li.org/) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Sat Feb 25 16:20:01 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:20:01 +0100 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <20060224235653.a4d27730.paul@permanentmail.com> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> <1140762131.2162.3.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF13AF.8080603@fedoraproject.org> <20060224235653.a4d27730.paul@permanentmail.com> Message-ID: <440083B1.7010603@feuerpokemon.de> Paul Dickson wrote: >On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:09:51 -0500, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > > >>David Nielsen wrote: >> >> >>>A more grave problem is that on my machine at least it fires up the pop >>>up before the applet has been placed so it's often slightly off screen >>>and it is the first thing the user sees. Hardly desirable behaviour to >>>display a broken error message as the first thing. >>> >>> >>Yep, same thing here. It shows up somewhere partly off-screen on the >>left, since the panel hasn't yet finished rendering. Looks really awkward. >> >> > >I get the pop-up, but I don't have the applet on the panel. > >I've tried to add the nm-applet, but it won't appear. > > -Paul > > > same here From linxt at comcast.net Sat Feb 25 16:16:13 2006 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:16:13 -0800 Subject: FC5T3: Why only so few screensavers available to choose in in KDE? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602250607i27106bc1x92bf4578dacd02e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> <91f88ee20602250607i27106bc1x92bf4578dacd02e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200602250816.13400.linxt@comcast.net> On Saturday 25 February 2006 06:07, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > On 2/25/06, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > For some reason I can see only very limited number of screensavers (21 > > in total) in KDE Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Screen Saver > > panel. I know there are plenty more installed since choosing "Random" > > option will result in screensaver I cannot choose manually. Worse yet, > > half of the available ones are OpenGL (10) that do not seem to work on > > my hardware :( I have a full list on FC3 box but not on FC5t3... > > > > Is this supoosed to be this way? Why? > > Not real sure why your listing is shorter but I do know that if you > choose "random" screen saver all the files located in the xscreensaver > directory will be used, randomly, even if they are not listed as > "choosable." > Yes, but some of us want to be able to choose from the "whole" list, not just the very limited list displayed. My list is also shorter. Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA From roger at gwch.net Sat Feb 25 16:26:30 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:26:30 +0100 Subject: howto set kde as standard in the shell? [SOLVED] and Gnome working again In-Reply-To: <1140883907.13200.0.camel@FC5> References: <1140883502.2942.0.camel@niobe> <1140883907.13200.0.camel@FC5> Message-ID: <1140884791.2782.2.camel@niobe> Am Samstag, den 25.02.2006, 11:11 -0500 schrieb CodeHeads: > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 17:05 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > > hello, > > > > since todays update, i cannot choose kde as an alternative gui. where > > can i set i manually? > > > > Thanks, > > Roger > > > > I believe it is in /etc/sysconfig/desktop > -- It's solved by an error i think from the update. The path in /etc/gdm/Xsession was pointing false to /etc/xinit/Xsession. I corrected to /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession - now also Gnome is working again. From fox3ec208 at wideopenwest.com Sat Feb 25 16:33:19 2006 From: fox3ec208 at wideopenwest.com (Terry Polzin) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:33:19 -0500 Subject: FC5T3: Why only so few screensavers available to choose in in KDE? In-Reply-To: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> References: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <200602251133.24284.fox3ec208@wideopenwest.com> On Saturday February 25 2006 08:08, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > Hi, > > For some reason I can see only very limited number of screensavers (21 > in total) in KDE Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Screen Saver > panel. I know there are plenty more installed since choosing "Random" > option will result in screensaver I cannot choose manually. Worse yet, > half of the available ones are OpenGL (10) that do not seem to work on > my hardware :( I have a full list on FC3 box but not on FC5t3... > > Is this supoosed to be this way? Why? 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Never seem this failure mode before so I'm not really sure how to diagnose. 2) xchat will not start for me unless i run it under strace. run xchat from the terminal.. window pops up and disappears and i get a segfault message after a number of glib warnings run strace xchat from the terminal and it magically works. is this a weird race condition? 3) network manager segfaults on desktop login and using the preferences dialog i can no longer get the icon to appear in the notification area anyone else seeing similar issues? -jef From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Sat Feb 25 17:20:37 2006 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:20:37 -0500 Subject: Problems under gnome desktop with today's rawhide updates... can anyone confirm? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602250851i5802c767y872fdae0955ecc05@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910602250851i5802c767y872fdae0955ecc05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440091E5.60206@cox.net> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Just applied today's updates... and rebooted and ive seeing so odd > behavior in the gnome desktop > > 1) gnome put me into a "failsafe" gnome desktop according to post > login screen dialogs.. not sure what that means other than my startup > programs didnt run. Never seem this failure mode before so I'm not > really sure how to diagnose. > > 2) xchat will not start for me unless i run it under strace. > run xchat from the terminal.. window pops up and disappears and i get > a segfault message after a number of glib warnings > > run strace xchat from the terminal and it magically works. > is this a weird race condition? > > 3) network manager segfaults on desktop login and using the > preferences dialog i can no longer get the icon to appear in the > notification area > > > anyone else seeing similar issues? > > -jef > Could it be this: Am Samstag, den 25.02.2006, 11:11 -0500 schrieb CodeHeads: > > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 17:05 +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote: >> > > hello, >> > > >> > > since todays update, i cannot choose kde as an alternative gui. where >> > > can i set i manually? >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Roger >> > > > > > > I believe it is in /etc/sysconfig/desktop > > -- It's solved by an error i think from the update. The path in /etc/gdm/Xsession was pointing false to /etc/xinit/Xsession. I corrected to /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession - now also Gnome is working again. -- Regards, Old Fart (my reply-to address is "munged" to defeat spambots) From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 17:30:22 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:30:22 -0500 Subject: Problems under gnome desktop with today's rawhide updates... can anyone confirm? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602250926t47919107s5645bf82f183114b@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910602250851i5802c767y872fdae0955ecc05@mail.gmail.com> <440091E5.60206@cox.net> <604aa7910602250926t47919107s5645bf82f183114b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602250930j7c61709ek3365ca1ef6633aae@mail.gmail.com> On 2/25/06, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/25/06, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > > It's solved by an error i think from the update. The path > > in /etc/gdm/Xsession was pointing false to /etc/xinit/Xsession. I > > corrected to /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession - now also Gnome is working again. > > Is that symlink issue been filed in bugzilla? Correcting that symlink made the gnome startup and the network manager applet segfault dialog go away. Silly symlink I blew away my custom xchat configs in my home directory and that works now too. -jef From mharris at mharris.ca Sat Feb 25 17:33:17 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:33:17 -0500 Subject: Why does beagle require enlightenment? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <440094DD.2000202@mharris.ca> Miles Lane wrote: > I don't like Evolution. I prefer GMail and Yahoo Calendar, but am > still interested in Beagle's searching functionality. switchdesk kde -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 17:26:23 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:26:23 -0500 Subject: Problems under gnome desktop with today's rawhide updates... can anyone confirm? In-Reply-To: <440091E5.60206@cox.net> References: <604aa7910602250851i5802c767y872fdae0955ecc05@mail.gmail.com> <440091E5.60206@cox.net> Message-ID: <604aa7910602250926t47919107s5645bf82f183114b@mail.gmail.com> On 2/25/06, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > It's solved by an error i think from the update. The path > in /etc/gdm/Xsession was pointing false to /etc/xinit/Xsession. I > corrected to /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession - now also Gnome is working again. Is that symlink issue been filed in bugzilla? -jef From mharris at mharris.ca Sat Feb 25 17:35:35 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:35:35 -0500 Subject: Why does beagle require enlightenment? In-Reply-To: <440094DD.2000202@mharris.ca> References: <440094DD.2000202@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <44009567.6040106@mharris.ca> Mike A. Harris wrote: > Miles Lane wrote: > >> I don't like Evolution. I prefer GMail and Yahoo Calendar, but am >> still interested in Beagle's searching functionality. > > > switchdesk kde Er... ok.... very seriously weird thunderbird screwup. I hit reply on a different email, and it brought up the wrong email and I didn't notice. My response above was in response to the "how to switch to kde" email. Sorry for any confusion. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net Sat Feb 25 18:08:11 2006 From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:08:11 -0500 Subject: Problems under gnome desktop with today's rawhide updates... can anyone confirm? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602250926t47919107s5645bf82f183114b@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910602250851i5802c767y872fdae0955ecc05@mail.gmail.com> <440091E5.60206@cox.net> <604aa7910602250926t47919107s5645bf82f183114b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44009D0B.4020304@cox.net> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/25/06, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >> It's solved by an error i think from the update. The path >> in /etc/gdm/Xsession was pointing false to /etc/xinit/Xsession. I >> corrected to /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession - now also Gnome is working again. > > Is that symlink issue been filed in bugzilla? > > -jef > 183034 -- Regards, Old Fart (my reply-to address is "munged" to defeat spambots) From dmutters at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 18:17:14 2006 From: dmutters at gmail.com (Dane Mutters) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 10:17:14 -0800 Subject: eth0 ceases to function after reboot on FC5T3 Message-ID: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> Hello all. I just installed test 3 from DVD, and after rebooting eth0 will no longer work. I can't ping local or internet addresses by name or by IP. Currently, it's set to static IP, but DHCP doesn't work either. It worked fine during the installation and on the first boot, but quit after that. Any ideas? Should this be filed as a bug report, or is this a known issue? I tried googling for it, but turned up no solutions. Thanks. --Dane From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sat Feb 25 18:21:17 2006 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:21:17 +0000 Subject: Burning ISOs Message-ID: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Hi, I'm trying to install FC5t3 on another computer, but I can't burn the ISOs. I've tried burning from GNOME and using cdrecord, e.g. cdrecord dev=/dev/hda -eject -v -dao FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso (I ran this as root as it complained about setpriority when I didn't). But on the resulting CDs some files can be copied but other's result in I/O errors. Last time I posted about verifying CDs I was told that this process was unreliable. So we have unreliable CD burning and no reliable way to verify them. And I have a half-installed computer. Does anyone have any tips for successful burning of ISOs? (I'm burning from an up-to-date FC5 test installation). Will CD burning ever "Just Work"? Yours depressed and surrounded by corrupt CDs, Leon... From dmutters at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 18:37:09 2006 From: dmutters at gmail.com (Dane Mutters) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 10:37:09 -0800 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <200602251037.09819.dmutters@gmail.com> On Saturday 25 February 2006 10:21 am, Leon Stringer wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install FC5t3 on another computer, but I can't burn the > ISOs. > > I've tried burning from GNOME and using cdrecord, e.g. > > cdrecord dev=/dev/hda -eject -v -dao FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso > > (I ran this as root as it complained about setpriority when I didn't). > > But on the resulting CDs some files can be copied but other's result in > I/O errors. Last time I posted about verifying CDs I was told that this > process was unreliable. > > So we have unreliable CD burning and no reliable way to verify them. > > And I have a half-installed computer. > > Does anyone have any tips for successful burning of ISOs? (I'm burning > from an up-to-date FC5 test installation). > > Will CD burning ever "Just Work"? > > Yours depressed and surrounded by corrupt CDs, > > Leon... Check out this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=228896 This seems to be a problem in most Linux distributions, but can be overcome using the steps mentioned in the thread. Hope this helps. --Dane From bsferrell at wfeca.net Sat Feb 25 18:38:31 2006 From: bsferrell at wfeca.net (Stella Ferrell) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:38:31 -0600 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <4400A427.9000803@wfeca.net> Leon Stringer wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install FC5t3 on another computer, but I can't burn the > ISOs. > > I've tried burning from GNOME and using cdrecord, e.g. > > cdrecord dev=/dev/hda -eject -v -dao FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso > > (I ran this as root as it complained about setpriority when I didn't). > > But on the resulting CDs some files can be copied but other's result in > I/O errors. Last time I posted about verifying CDs I was told that this > process was unreliable. > > So we have unreliable CD burning and no reliable way to verify them. > > And I have a half-installed computer. > > Does anyone have any tips for successful burning of ISOs? (I'm burning > from an up-to-date FC5 test installation). > > Will CD burning ever "Just Work"? > > Yours depressed and surrounded by corrupt CDs, > > Leon... > > Use K3B, click on tools, click on burn cd or dvd image. From Liste at famillecollet.com Sat Feb 25 17:56:51 2006 From: Liste at famillecollet.com (Remi Collet) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:56:51 +0100 Subject: FC5T3: Why only so few screensavers available to choose in in KDE? In-Reply-To: <200602251133.24284.fox3ec208@wideopenwest.com> References: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> <200602251133.24284.fox3ec208@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <44009A63.5000201@FamilleCollet.com> Terry Polzin a ?crit : > On Saturday February 25 2006 08:08, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> For some reason I can see only very limited number of screensavers (21 >> in total) in KDE Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Screen Saver >> panel. I know there are plenty more installed since choosing "Random" >> option will result in screensaver I cannot choose manually. Worse yet, >> half of the available ones are OpenGL (10) that do not seem to work on >> my hardware :( I have a full list on FC3 box but not on FC5t3... >> >> Is this supoosed to be this way? Why? >> > In FC4 there was a separate screen sever package (xscreensaver-base) that has > to be installed manually > There are 3 additionals RPM available xscreensaver-extras-4.24-1.1 xscreensaver-gl-extras-4.24-1.1 xscreensaver-base-4.24-1.1 Remi. From cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk Sat Feb 25 18:57:46 2006 From: cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk (Anne Wilson) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:57:46 +0000 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <200602251037.09819.dmutters@gmail.com> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <200602251037.09819.dmutters@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200602251857.51839.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> On Saturday 25 February 2006 18:37, Dane Mutters wrote: > > Check out this thread: > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=228896 > August 2003? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes, I know it's old, but I think it may still be relevant to your problem. --Dane From cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk Sat Feb 25 19:26:02 2006 From: cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk (Anne Wilson) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:26:02 +0000 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <200602251118.09554.dmutters@gmail.com> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <200602251857.51839.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> <200602251118.09554.dmutters@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200602251926.03654.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> On Saturday 25 February 2006 19:18, Dane Mutters wrote: > On Saturday 25 February 2006 10:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Saturday 25 February 2006 18:37, Dane Mutters wrote: > > > Check out this thread: > > > > > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=228896 > > > > August 2003? > > Yes, I know it's old, but I think it may still be relevant to your > problem. > Is there a problem? As Stella said, k3b can handle it. 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It worked for me. -Jpearson From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sat Feb 25 19:35:28 2006 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:35:28 +0000 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <200602251926.03654.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <200602251857.51839.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> <200602251118.09554.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602251926.03654.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <1140896129.4128.84.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 19:26 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Saturday 25 February 2006 19:18, Dane Mutters wrote: > > On Saturday 25 February 2006 10:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Saturday 25 February 2006 18:37, Dane Mutters wrote: > > > > Check out this thread: > > > > > > > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=228896 > > > > > > August 2003? > > > > Yes, I know it's old, but I think it may still be relevant to your > > problem. > > > Is there a problem? As Stella said, k3b can handle it. Yes, there are two problems: If GNOME offers to burn ISOs to CD it should work You should be able to test the CDs reliably. Because I'm keen to find out where the GNOME problem is I've been testing with cdrecord. I've managed one successful burn with: cdrecord dev=/dev/hda speed=10 padsize=63s -pad -dao -v -eject FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso As recommended in the link from the above article (http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm). I'll install k3b and see what the results are like. Thanks for your replies! From cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk Sat Feb 25 19:42:51 2006 From: cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk (Anne Wilson) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:42:51 +0000 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <1140896129.4128.84.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <200602251926.03654.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> <1140896129.4128.84.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <200602251942.52395.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> On Saturday 25 February 2006 19:35, Leon Stringer wrote: > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 19:26 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Saturday 25 February 2006 19:18, Dane Mutters wrote: > > > On Saturday 25 February 2006 10:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > On Saturday 25 February 2006 18:37, Dane Mutters wrote: > > > > > Check out this thread: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=228896 > > > > > > > > August 2003? > > > > > > Yes, I know it's old, but I think it may still be relevant to your > > > problem. > > > > Is there a problem? As Stella said, k3b can handle it. > > Yes, there are two problems: > > If GNOME offers to burn ISOs to CD it should work > > You should be able to test the CDs reliably. > > Because I'm keen to find out where the GNOME problem is I've been > testing with cdrecord. > > I've managed one successful burn with: > > cdrecord dev=/dev/hda speed=10 padsize=63s -pad -dao -v -eject > FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso > > As recommended in the link from the above article > (http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm). > > I'll install k3b and see what the results are like. > > Thanks for your replies! If you set the Verify flag in k3b it will check the md5sum of the burn agains the md5sum of the original file. Anne -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sure, but I'm told this isn't reliable due to a long standing problem (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-January/msg02061.html). And as I suspected K3B uses cdrecord underneath as does GNOME. That said I've just burnt one CD with K3B which has worked first time so it's doing a better job than GNOME, so I'm getting somewhere. Thanks, Leon... From bruno at wolff.to Sat Feb 25 20:15:54 2006 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:15:54 -0600 Subject: "install everything" and @everything dumped In-Reply-To: <20060225092744.GA19232@neu.nirvana> References: <20060223231903.GA11037@neu.nirvana> <1140803514.2874.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060224182400.GK21359@neu.nirvana> <43FF53E4.1050309@fedoraproject.org> <20060224225847.GO21359@neu.nirvana> <1140828378.12671.9.camel@bree.local.net> <20060225092744.GA19232@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <20060225201554.GB17639@wolff.to> On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 10:27:44 +0100, > > It wouldn't hurt to summarize the reasoning in a sentence. If the > technical bits are there (which obviously will be if it will be > supported for kickstart input), then why deprive the user from using > the gui/tui to do that? How should the typical user perform an > effective everything install? Should he start learning kickstart? It would sure be nice to at least be able to select all of the check boxes, the same as you can do manually. It is a real pain to go though everything turning stuff on one check box at a time. While most of the extra stuff, I don't really care about, but I have plenty of disk space so it is easier to just have stuff installed in case I want it later. From bruno at wolff.to Sat Feb 25 20:05:48 2006 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:05:48 -0600 Subject: Updating FC5T3 DVD iso? In-Reply-To: <200602241622.24866.linxt@comcast.net> References: <20060224144958.GA25256@wolff.to> <200602241622.24866.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20060225200548.GA17639@wolff.to> On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 16:22:24 -0800, Thomas Taylor wrote: > On Friday 24 February 2006 06:49, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > It sounds like you have a corrupted DVD.iso. It is not advisable to try > remaking your own iso version unless you REALLY know what you're doing. > > Did you run sha1sum against the downloaded iso file? Did it agree with the > sha1sum from the download site? > > If so, did you verify the DVD after you burned it? The DVD was scratched. Using another blank worked. I might still play around with a self made ISO, since I am just doing practice installs. Most of the upgrades can be applied after the install, but I expect the upgraded version of anaconda can only be tested during an install. From jvian10 at charter.net Sat Feb 25 21:16:33 2006 From: jvian10 at charter.net (Jeff Vian) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:16:33 -0600 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <200602251926.03654.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <200602251857.51839.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> <200602251118.09554.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602251926.03654.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <1140902193.25068.195.camel@eagle.lab.net> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 19:26 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Saturday 25 February 2006 19:18, Dane Mutters wrote: > > On Saturday 25 February 2006 10:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Saturday 25 February 2006 18:37, Dane Mutters wrote: > > > > Check out this thread: > > > > > > > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=228896 > > > > > > August 2003? > > > > Yes, I know it's old, but I think it may still be relevant to your > > problem. > > > Is there a problem? As Stella said, k3b can handle it. > The nautilus cdburner can also handle it. > Anne From pato.lukaz at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 21:19:54 2006 From: pato.lukaz at gmail.com (Alberto Patino) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:19:54 -0600 Subject: grub cannot load /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor kernel image [SOLUTION] Message-ID: <4489a22a0602251319n531a872aub8d8c64da56f599@mail.gmail.com> Well, I fixed the error and I have FC5 working!!! This was a misunderstood from my side: I google a little bit about Xen and I tried this setup in my grub.conf: title FEDORA CORE 5 TEST 3 SUBTEST 1 root (hd1,0) kernel /xen.gz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dom0_mem=131072 module /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor ro root=/dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00 rhgb quiet module /initrd-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor.img Xen run on top of fedora, so the "kernel" image is: xen.gz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor and initrd-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor.img are now loaded as a modules. ...By the way, when i selected Xen support in the anaconda installer, I was expecting a pair of kernels in /boot (Like the way with FC4 which gave me a normal kernel and other with SMP support), but in this case FC5 just gave me the Xen version... Its time to play with FC5 and Xen!!! From linxt at comcast.net Sat Feb 25 21:21:48 2006 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:21:48 -0800 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <1140897675.4128.89.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <200602251942.52395.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> <1140897675.4128.89.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <200602251321.48260.linxt@comcast.net> On Saturday 25 February 2006 12:01, Leon Stringer wrote: > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 19:42 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Saturday 25 February 2006 19:35, Leon Stringer wrote: > > > I'll install k3b and see what the results are like. > > > > > > Thanks for your replies! > > > > If you set the Verify flag in k3b it will check the md5sum of the burn > > agains the md5sum of the original file. > > Sure, but I'm told this isn't reliable due to a long standing problem > (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-January/msg02061.htm >l). > > And as I suspected K3B uses cdrecord underneath as does GNOME. That said > I've just burnt one CD with K3B which has worked first time so it's > doing a better job than GNOME, so I'm getting somewhere. > > Thanks, > > Leon... You might also check out "man cdrecord", paying attention go the examples and diagnostics near the end. I've used the examples by just copying, then changing the device and file name and it worked great. HTH, Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA From jos at xos.nl Sat Feb 25 21:29:15 2006 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:29:15 +0100 Subject: grub cannot load /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor kernel image [SOLUTION] In-Reply-To: <4489a22a0602251319n531a872aub8d8c64da56f599@mail.gmail.com>; from pato.lukaz@gmail.com on Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 03:19:54PM -0600 References: <4489a22a0602251319n531a872aub8d8c64da56f599@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060225222915.B3104@xos037.xos.nl> On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 03:19:54PM -0600, Alberto Patino wrote: > I google a little bit about Xen and I tried this setup in my grub.conf: > > title FEDORA CORE 5 TEST 3 SUBTEST 1 > root (hd1,0) > kernel /xen.gz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dom0_mem=131072 > module /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor ro > root=/dev/VolGroup01/LogVol00 rhgb quiet > module /initrd-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor.img > > Xen run on top of fedora, so the "kernel" image is: xen.gz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 To be more precize, it's other way around: Fedora runs on top of Xen. -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk Sat Feb 25 21:29:51 2006 From: cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk (Anne Wilson) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:29:51 +0000 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <1140897675.4128.89.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <200602251942.52395.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> <1140897675.4128.89.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <200602252129.56679.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> On Saturday 25 February 2006 20:01, Leon Stringer wrote: > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 19:42 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Saturday 25 February 2006 19:35, Leon Stringer wrote: > > > I'll install k3b and see what the results are like. > > > > > > Thanks for your replies! > > > > If you set the Verify flag in k3b it will check the md5sum of the burn > > agains the md5sum of the original file. > > Sure, but I'm told this isn't reliable due to a long standing problem > (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-January/msg02061.htm >l). I have heard this talked about before. This is not from my experience, but from what I have heard. People have tried their own verify by md5sum and been unable to get a correct result. K3b seems to be able to do it. I don't know whether some corrective has been consciously programmed in, but the concensus seems to be that if K3b says it's OK, then you can trust it. > > And as I suspected K3B uses cdrecord underneath as does GNOME. That said > I've just burnt one CD with K3B which has worked first time so it's > doing a better job than GNOME, so I'm getting somewhere. > HTH Anne -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Try to keep your system idle while burning, and make sure you have decent throughput to your drive. Many tools, including K3B, support verification of the written data, but this is only a secondary measure. It is much better to avoid problems in the first place rather than have to detect them afterwards. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Xen is on top of fedora Sorry my translation skills betrayed me! :-) From w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk Sat Feb 25 21:51:35 2006 From: w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk (William Murray) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:51:35 +0000 Subject: grubby problem with latest kernel Message-ID: <1140904295.3204.17.camel@billmurray.ashenden> Hello all, Various people have reported (and I confirm) grubby failing in installing kernel 1977_FC5.i686 > > *** glibc detected *** /sbin/grubby: double free or corruption (out): The explanation that it is a grubby problem may be true, but it seems incomplete - grubby has not been changed and managed other kernels. Does anyone know a work-around? Bill From pato.lukaz at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 21:56:45 2006 From: pato.lukaz at gmail.com (Alberto Patino) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:56:45 -0600 Subject: grub cannot load /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5hypervisor kernel image [SOLUTION] In-Reply-To: <4489a22a0602251351s4b1d5970l794c9bcd4ec2b8b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <4489a22a0602251319n531a872aub8d8c64da56f599@mail.gmail.com> <20060225222915.B3104@xos037.xos.nl> <4489a22a0602251351s4b1d5970l794c9bcd4ec2b8b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4489a22a0602251356j790b368cv2b1be8ea86fa5e0c@mail.gmail.com> > > Of course, you are right! Xen is on top of fedora > > Sorry my translation skills betrayed me! :-) > Same error again!!! :-( Lets try with a diagram: +------+ |FC5 | +------+ |XEN| +------+- | HW | +------+ FC5 on top of Xen FC5 on top of Xen FC5 on top of Xen FC5 on top of Xen FC5 on top of Xen Sorry :) From mharris at redhat.com Sat Feb 25 22:10:34 2006 From: mharris at redhat.com (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:10:34 -0500 Subject: Request for testers to confirm nv driver mouse cursor bug Message-ID: <4400D5DA.7000204@redhat.com> If you are using Nvidia video hardware with FC5test3 or later, and the mouse cursor is invisible, or has any visible mouse pointer corruption, please add a comment to the following bug report to confirm you are having the same problem, and attach your X server log file as an uncompressed file attachment: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182517 2 chips have been identified as experiencing this problem so far, so once people have updated the report with any other chips that have the problem, I am going to disable hardware cursors on those chips by default so that things work out of the box in FC5 for as many nv users as possible. Once the upstream nv driver maintainer fixes the bugs in the driver, we'll update and drop the workaround. For those who want to track the issue in X.Org, the upstream bug is: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3009 Thanks in advance. -- Mike A. Harris, Systems Engineer, X11 Development team, Red Hat Canada, Ltd. From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sat Feb 25 22:10:43 2006 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:10:43 +0000 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <1140902193.25068.195.camel@eagle.lab.net> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <200602251857.51839.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> <200602251118.09554.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602251926.03654.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> <1140902193.25068.195.camel@eagle.lab.net> Message-ID: <1140905443.4128.91.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 15:16 -0600, Jeff Vian wrote: > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 19:26 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Is there a problem? As Stella said, k3b can handle it. > The nautilus cdburner can also handle it. No, nautilus can't. That's my problem. nautilus gave me a stack of coasters. K3B has been 100% reliable... From mharris at mharris.ca Sat Feb 25 22:31:36 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:31:36 -0500 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> Leon Stringer wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install FC5t3 on another computer, but I can't burn the > ISOs. > > I've tried burning from GNOME and using cdrecord, e.g. > > cdrecord dev=/dev/hda -eject -v -dao FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso > > (I ran this as root as it complained about setpriority when I didn't). > > But on the resulting CDs some files can be copied but other's result in > I/O errors. Last time I posted about verifying CDs I was told that this > process was unreliable. > > So we have unreliable CD burning and no reliable way to verify them. Yes, rather irritating. ;) > And I have a half-installed computer. > > Does anyone have any tips for successful burning of ISOs? (I'm burning > from an up-to-date FC5 test installation). I'll get burned at the stake for this answer, but in lieu of additional conditions being specified which limit the number of available responses to a specific range.... Use Nero Burning ROM in Windows XP. It more or less "just works" every time. > Will CD burning ever "Just Work"? In Linux, I'm starting to think the answer is "no". I got my first CD burner about 7-8 years ago, and used it in Linux for many years. I also used CDRWin and another app I forget the name of now in Windows occasionally when I wanted to burn DAO mode, but once DAO mode was supported in Linux on my burner, I stuck with Linux burning using xcdroast for a very long time. Then at some point, something changed in the kernel which broke CD burning for me, and it wasn't fixed for months. During that time, I switched to using CDRwin for everything in Windows again. It was frustrating rebooting just to burn a CD, but necessary. Then, cd burning worked again. Yay! Only it failed randomly sometimes for some reason that I couldn't figure out. Eventually I discovered it was because of autorun or magicdev or something like that, so I blew those away and it worked again. Then, if I tried to mount a CD on CDROM unit #2, it would fry the burn happening on CDburner unit #1 (both on same IDE cable). Ever since then, which was around RHL 7.1 or maybe 7.2, CD burning has been working then broken, then working, then broken, etc., at least for me. I've tried 3 different burners, one a DVD burner, and have experienced unreliable behaviour which I considered unacceptable. Each time, I scan the lists and bugzilla and find various reports of problems, and then just work around it temporarily by rebooting a box into XP and using Nero or CDRwin. As much as I hate Windows totally, I don't remember the last time I burned a frisbee in the evil proprietary OS. It's been about 6 months since I tried in Linux, on FC4, so I'm not sure what the current state is like. Rather than finding out by endlessly experimenting, I've just kept using Nero in XP, as it doesn't seem to vary over time, even with various OS updates, etc. All I can say is that hopefully all of the different aspects of why cd/dvd burning in Linux is currently a bumpy ride for at least some people, eventually get worked out, whatever the root cause(s) happen to be. Another option for me I suppose, would be to set up an older machine running RHL 7.0 or whatever the last version was that worked flawless for me, and just leave it at that OS version forever just to burn CDs with. ;o) > Yours depressed and surrounded by corrupt CDs, Sometimes it is the media, and other times it may be the burn speed too. Try different speeds, and different media. I find that once I've found solid media, if I stick to that same brand for a long time, I end up making almost zero frisbees.... unless I try to burn in Linux. HTH. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From davej at redhat.com Sat Feb 25 22:32:46 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:32:46 -0500 Subject: kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 In-Reply-To: <1140876993.2991.16.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1140884449.10471.3.camel@amigos> <1140872348.18727.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> <1140876993.2991.16.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <20060225223246.GA31536@redhat.com> On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 03:16:32PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 06:59 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 11:20 -0500, Marian Kopala wrote: > > > > > rpm -ivh kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5.i686.rpm > > > Przygotowywanie... ########################################### > > > [100%] > > > 1:kernel ########################################### > > > [100%] > > > *** glibc detected *** /sbin/grubby: double free or corruption (out): > > > Glibc problem? > > no grubby problem :) > > glibc is just the messenger here downgrading to yesterdays mkinitrd works around this until it's fixed. Dave From lsatenstein at yahoo.com Sun Feb 26 00:01:39 2006 From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:01:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Kudzu status for segmentation error fix Message-ID: <20060226000139.42432.qmail@web30205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have a standard desktop with 756m and recognized video card, etc (AMD 32bit processor). kudzu fails with segmentation fault. Is there a patch for this? Is the issue with bugzilla closed? Leslie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 26 00:11:32 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:11:32 +1100 Subject: Exception During Install FC5t3 In-Reply-To: <1140879983.4128.68.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140879983.4128.68.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <4400F234.8030201@bigpond.net.au> Leon Stringer wrote: ... > Anaconda then said "Starting install process. This may take several > minutes..." and I then got an Exception Occurred message which I've > attempted to reproduce below. > > Looking at the exception I feel I should also mention that I selected > not to use the NIC it detected (because the NIC I want to use (WiFi) > wasn't detected). > > Leon... > --- > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1253, in handleRenderCallback > self.currentWindow.renderCallback() snip 200 lines of exception > int.ppw.ics.cw.id.keyboard: Keyboard instance, containing members: > ... I'm giving up typing now. If we're going to have exceptions this big > we need a way to transfer them off the affected computer... Were you using GUI install ? For an earlier problem (different nature), I'm pretty sure I got a three button dialog to the effect "exception, the install will stop and the pc will be restarted. Buttons being reboot, view exception trace and save to disk. Did yours ? I typed what seemed like relevant bits out of mine out because the machine did not have a floppy disk, but on a different machine the save to disk (floppy) worked fine. It is also possible to Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch to a command prompt. Depending on the issue, you may be able to write the installer log and exception trace to a different disk, or usb flash disk etc ? You might also run top, to get an idea of which processes were running (consuming most ram/cpu). The last couple of messages on both alt-F3 and alt-F4 terminals are quite helpful as well, since they indicate which step the installer is up to. DaveT. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 26 00:28:43 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:28:43 +1100 Subject: eth0 ceases to function after reboot on FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4400F63B.8080905@bigpond.net.au> Dane Mutters wrote: ... > I just installed test 3 from DVD, and after rebooting eth0 will no longer > work. I can't ping local or internet addresses by name or by IP. Currently, > it's set to static IP, but DHCP doesn't work either. It worked fine during > the installation and on the first boot, but quit after that. Can you give the result of ifconfig ? Also, what is in /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf Can you ping localhost ? Can you ping the eth0 address (potentially retrieved from ifconfig) ? In anaconda, did you set the address to static or dhcp ? Did you provide a hostname ? When you said currently: what method have you been using to try different ethernet settings ? What is the ethernet adapter ? Is this a wireless adapter ? What is the result of lspci ? How about lsmod ? > Any ideas? Should this be filed as a bug report, or is this a known issue? I don't know, perhaps there is an error being logged in /var/log/messages ? grep eth0 /var/log/messages that can shed more light on the problem. In any case to make a bugzilla report you would need to provide info like the above; might as well provide it here first, so that there is enough info for others to help/refer you to bugzilla etc. Also, perhaps provide the age and manufacturer/model of the machine (or component parts if hand assembled). > I tried googling for it, but turned up no solutions. Possibly to new for google; and there is some finesse required in massaging bugzilla to not give "zero bugs found". DaveT. From fhew3 at cogeco.ca Sun Feb 26 00:29:40 2006 From: fhew3 at cogeco.ca (Fulko Hew) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:29:40 -0500 Subject: Burning ISOs References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <1140897675.4128.89.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <200602252129.56679.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> <200602251545.27681.nman64@n-man.com> Message-ID: <4400F674.4010707@cogeco.ca> Patrick Barnes wrote: >I'm surprised that nobody on this thread has mentioned the two most valuable >tips when having problems with CD-burning quality: > > * Burn at low speeds. 8x is usually good, 4x is failsafe. > I've heard from the experts that burning at a slower speed is not neccessarily going to make the burn more likely to succeed. As a matter of fact, some media may actually be worse at slower than rated speed. Having said that... I've had a bit of better success when burning at slower than rated speeds. > > * Get quality media. Nothing results in more coasters than poor-quality >media. > But I do agree with this 150% ! I've recently been burning a whole lot of DVDs and CDs. I unfortunately decided to purchase 'low cost' blank media. Boy what a mistake that was. At best, my success rate was pathetic, at worst, it was laughable. :-( So from now on, its nothing but medium to premium blanks. ... snip ... > >Many tools, including K3B, support verification of the written data, but this >is only a secondary measure. It is much better to avoid problems in the >first place rather than have to detect them afterwards. > Having a successful burn guaranteed is always the best, but when trying out a new batch of blanks, I now highly recommend do the verification. At least that way, I know I haven't burned a coaster. Now I've had some turn into a coaster the day after it was burned, but at least it verified on the day of the burn. :-( > From prigault at oricom.ca Sun Feb 26 00:52:27 2006 From: prigault at oricom.ca (Philippe Rigault) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:52:27 -0500 Subject: firefox i386 RPM should be included on x86_64 iso Message-ID: <200602251952.27138.prigault@oricom.ca> Due to the lack of a 64-bit flash plugin, the only way to browse flash-enabled sites currently is through the 32-bit version of firefox (unless there is a way to use the 32-bit plugin with firefox.x86_64, which I think is not possible). Therefore, I consider the 32-bit version firefox a must have on the x86_64 iso files (there is no firefox i386.rpm in the DVD of FC5test3). I am even recommending the 32-bit version to be the default on x86_64 until a proper alternative (free flash plugin or 64-bit version distributed by Macromedia) exists. Regards. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 26 01:11:12 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:11:12 +1100 Subject: Exception During Install FC5t3 In-Reply-To: <1140879983.4128.68.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140879983.4128.68.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <44010030.1090109@bigpond.net.au> Leon Stringer wrote: ... > Anaconda then said "Starting install process. This may take several > minutes..." and I then got an Exception Occurred message which I've > attempted to reproduce below. > > Looking at the exception I feel I should also mention that I selected > not to use the NIC it detected (because the NIC I want to use (WiFi) > wasn't detected). > > Leon... > --- > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1253, in handleRenderCallback > self.currentWindow.renderCallback() snip 200 lines of exception > int.ppw.ics.cw.id.keyboard: Keyboard instance, containing members: > ... I'm giving up typing now. If we're going to have exceptions this big > we need a way to transfer them off the affected computer... Were you using GUI install ? For an earlier problem (different nature), I'm pretty sure I got a three button dialog to the effect "exception, the install will stop and the pc will be restarted. Buttons being reboot, view exception trace and save to disk. Did yours ? I typed what seemed like relevant bits out of mine out because the machine did not have a floppy disk, but on a different machine the save to disk (floppy) worked fine. It is also possible to Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch to a command prompt. Depending on the issue, you may be able to write the installer log and exception trace to a different disk, or usb flash disk etc ? You might also run top, to get an idea of which processes were running (consuming most ram/cpu). The last couple of messages on both alt-F3 and alt-F4 terminals are quite helpful as well, since they indicate which step the installer is up to. DaveT. From smooge at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 01:31:43 2006 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:31:43 -0700 Subject: Dell Latitude D800 Kernel Crash (FC5T3 + Rawhide ) Message-ID: <80d7e4090602251731i3a0524b9h38e4ff4de63c7b14@mail.gmail.com> I have a repeatable kernel crash on my Dell Latitude when the minipci is turned on in the bios. The box has a broadcom wireless chipset on the minipci. I have hand-entered the ooops into bugzilla.. hope it helps. -- Stephen J Smoogen. CSIRT/Linux System Administrator From jvian10 at charter.net Sun Feb 26 01:42:39 2006 From: jvian10 at charter.net (Jeff Vian) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:42:39 -0600 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <1140905443.4128.91.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <200602251857.51839.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> <200602251118.09554.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602251926.03654.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> <1140902193.25068.195.camel@eagle.lab.net> <1140905443.4128.91.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <1140918159.4115.10.camel@eagle.lab.net> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 22:10 +0000, Leon Stringer wrote: > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 15:16 -0600, Jeff Vian wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 19:26 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > Is there a problem? As Stella said, k3b can handle it. > > > The nautilus cdburner can also handle it. > > No, nautilus can't. That's my problem. nautilus gave me a stack of > coasters. K3B has been 100% reliable... > YMMV. For me, nautilus has done an admirable job and has not created a single coaster. I have used nautilus as well as k3b since FC4 was released. I had only used k3b when on FC3. You have the ability to select burn speed within nautilus as well as within k3b so for a quick burn from an existing iso file (or even from a list of files) nautilus has done an outstanding job for me. Your problems may also stem from the quality of your burner as well as the media you use. > From jvian10 at charter.net Sun Feb 26 01:59:58 2006 From: jvian10 at charter.net (Jeff Vian) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:59:58 -0600 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <1140919198.4115.27.camel@eagle.lab.net> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 17:31 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Leon Stringer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to install FC5t3 on another computer, but I can't burn the > > ISOs. > > > > I've tried burning from GNOME and using cdrecord, e.g. > > > > cdrecord dev=/dev/hda -eject -v -dao FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso > > > > (I ran this as root as it complained about setpriority when I didn't). > > > > But on the resulting CDs some files can be copied but other's result in > > I/O errors. Last time I posted about verifying CDs I was told that this > > process was unreliable. > > > > So we have unreliable CD burning and no reliable way to verify them. > Works for me, using nautilus on FC4. Everything worked and all disks were usable. > Yes, rather irritating. ;) > > > And I have a half-installed computer. > > > > Does anyone have any tips for successful burning of ISOs? (I'm burning > > from an up-to-date FC5 test installation). > Try burning at lower speeds. When FC3 came out there were a lot of complaints from people about cd quality when using the max possible speed. When the suggestion was made to try lower speeds the complaints stopped. I can only assume the results were favorable. > I'll get burned at the stake for this answer, but in lieu of additional > conditions being specified which limit the number of available responses > to a specific range.... > > Use Nero Burning ROM in Windows XP. It more or less "just works" every > time. > > > Will CD burning ever "Just Work"? > > In Linux, I'm starting to think the answer is "no". I got my first > CD burner about 7-8 years ago, and used it in Linux for many years. > I also used CDRWin and another app I forget the name of now in Windows > occasionally when I wanted to burn DAO mode, but once DAO mode was > supported in Linux on my burner, I stuck with Linux burning using > xcdroast for a very long time. > xcdroast quality went away for me around FC1 time. I struggled with it and finally switched to k3b full time with FC2. No complaints since. > Then at some point, something changed in the kernel which broke CD > burning for me, and it wasn't fixed for months. During that time, > I switched to using CDRwin for everything in Windows again. It > was frustrating rebooting just to burn a CD, but necessary. > > Then, cd burning worked again. Yay! Only it failed randomly sometimes > for some reason that I couldn't figure out. Eventually I discovered > it was because of autorun or magicdev or something like that, so I > blew those away and it worked again. Then, if I tried to mount a > CD on CDROM unit #2, it would fry the burn happening on CDburner > unit #1 (both on same IDE cable). > That happens, and I used to get exactly the same with burning and using another cd device on windows. (I have not tried cd burning in Windows for over 2 years so I do not know the state there now.) The IDE bus apparently cannot handle 2 devices that way. > Ever since then, which was around RHL 7.1 or maybe 7.2, CD burning > has been working then broken, then working, then broken, etc., at > least for me. I've tried 3 different burners, one a DVD burner, and > have experienced unreliable behaviour which I considered unacceptable. > Each time, I scan the lists and bugzilla and find various reports of > problems, and then just work around it temporarily by rebooting a box > into XP and using Nero or CDRwin. As much as I hate Windows totally, > I don't remember the last time I burned a frisbee in the evil > proprietary OS. > > It's been about 6 months since I tried in Linux, on FC4, so I'm not > sure what the current state is like. Rather than finding out by > endlessly experimenting, I've just kept using Nero in XP, as it > doesn't seem to vary over time, even with various OS updates, etc. > > All I can say is that hopefully all of the different aspects of > why cd/dvd burning in Linux is currently a bumpy ride for at least > some people, eventually get worked out, whatever the root cause(s) > happen to be. > > Another option for me I suppose, would be to set up an older machine > running RHL 7.0 or whatever the last version was that worked flawless > for me, and just leave it at that OS version forever just to burn > CDs with. ;o) > > > > Yours depressed and surrounded by corrupt CDs, > > Sometimes it is the media, and other times it may be the burn speed > too. Try different speeds, and different media. I find that once > I've found solid media, if I stick to that same brand for a long time, > I end up making almost zero frisbees.... unless I try to burn in > Linux. > YMMV, but I have not even booted to Windows with a cd burner available on that OS for over 2 years. Factors involved are media quality, burner quality, memory available, activity (both on the system as a whole and on the file system), how you are burning (on the fly or from an image), and probably more. A critical one is the speed of your system and amount of memory available. > HTH. > > > > -- > Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca > Proud Canadian. > From netwiz at crc.id.au Sun Feb 26 02:05:09 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:05:09 +1100 (EST) Subject: Dell Latitude D800 Kernel Crash (FC5T3 + Rawhide ) In-Reply-To: <80d7e4090602251731i3a0524b9h38e4ff4de63c7b14@mail.gmail.com> References: <80d7e4090602251731i3a0524b9h38e4ff4de63c7b14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46970.192.94.41.42.1140919509.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> On Sun, February 26, 2006 12:31 pm, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > I have a repeatable kernel crash on my Dell Latitude when the minipci > is turned on in the bios. The box has a broadcom wireless chipset on > the minipci. I have hand-entered the ooops into bugzilla.. hope it > helps. Is it the same as this? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179714 -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From michal at harddata.com Sun Feb 26 02:11:05 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:11:05 -0700 Subject: grubby problem with latest kernel In-Reply-To: <1140904295.3204.17.camel@billmurray.ashenden> References: <1140904295.3204.17.camel@billmurray.ashenden> Message-ID: <20060226021105.GB11154@mail.harddata.com> On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 09:51:35PM +0000, William Murray wrote: > > Does anyone know a work-around? 'vi /etc/grub.conf' (or use any other editor). Nothing else is really affected but you will have to add an entry for a freshly installed kernel yourself. Michal From berryja at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 02:28:33 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:28:33 -0600 Subject: Kudzu status for segmentation error fix In-Reply-To: <20060226000139.42432.qmail@web30205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060226000139.42432.qmail@web30205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602251828k4a65434fy64ba937d05e253f4@mail.gmail.com> On 2/25/06, Leslie Satenstein wrote: > I have a standard desktop with 756m and recognized video card, etc (AMD > 32bit processor). kudzu fails with segmentation fault. Is there a patch > for this? Is the issue with bugzilla closed? Do you have the latest version of kudzu? Are you running Xen? The issue I was having with kudzu segfaulting on a 64-bit system with an nVidia graphics card is fixed. The issue with kudzu on Xen is still open: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179013 Jonathan From dcbw at redhat.com Sun Feb 26 02:35:20 2006 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:35:20 -0500 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <440083B1.7010603@feuerpokemon.de> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> <1140762131.2162.3.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF13AF.8080603@fedoraproject.org> <20060224235653.a4d27730.paul@permanentmail.com> <440083B1.7010603@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <1140921320.2570.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 17:20 +0100, dragoran wrote: > Paul Dickson wrote: > > >On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:09:51 -0500, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > > > > > > >>David Nielsen wrote: > >> > >> > >>>A more grave problem is that on my machine at least it fires up the pop > >>>up before the applet has been placed so it's often slightly off screen > >>>and it is the first thing the user sees. Hardly desirable behaviour to > >>>display a broken error message as the first thing. > >>> > >>> > >>Yep, same thing here. It shows up somewhere partly off-screen on the > >>left, since the panel hasn't yet finished rendering. Looks really awkward. > >> > >> > > > >I get the pop-up, but I don't have the applet on the panel. > > > >I've tried to add the nm-applet, but it won't appear. > > > > -Paul > > > > > > > same here It only appears if NetworkManager is running. It's also a bug that the popup appears when the icon does not show. Dan From dmutters at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 02:48:23 2006 From: dmutters at gmail.com (Dane Mutters) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:48:23 -0800 Subject: eth0 ceases to function after reboot on FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <4400F63B.8080905@bigpond.net.au> References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> <4400F63B.8080905@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <200602251848.24000.dmutters@gmail.com> Thanks for the suggestions, Dave. Here's some info: > Can you give the result of ifconfig ? eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF inet addr:192.168.1.112 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:11677 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:255 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:869560 (849.1 KiB) TX bytes:12811 (12.5 KiB) lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:2945 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2945 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:3294145 (3.1 MiB) TX bytes:3294145 (3.1 MiB) peth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:12227 errors:0 dropped:736 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:610 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:914379 (892.9 KiB) TX bytes:44795 (43.7 KiB) Interrupt:11 Base address:0x2c00 vif0.0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:255 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:11682 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:12811 (12.5 KiB) TX bytes:869926 (849.5 KiB) xenbr0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF inet6 addr: fe80::200:ff:fe00:0/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:12157 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:725575 (708.5 KiB) TX bytes:468 (468.0 b) > Also, what is in /etc/hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 Spot.The.Band Spot localhost.localdomain localhost > and /etc/resolv.conf search The.Band nameserver 192.168.1.1 nameserver 65.164.104.5 nameserver 65.164.104.4 > Can you ping localhost ? yes. > Can you ping the eth0 address (potentially retrieved from ifconfig) ? yes. > In anaconda, did you set the address to static or dhcp ? Static > Did you provide a hostname ? Yes (Spot) > When you said currently: what method have you been using to try > different ethernet settings ? I have tried using static and DHCP. Currently I'm using static. > What is the ethernet adapter ? Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev. 11) > Is this a wireless adapter ? No > What is the result of lspci ? 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 02) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 02) 00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 02) 00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02) 01:09.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11) 01:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07) 01:0a.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 07) 01:0d.0 Communication controller: Conexant HCF 56k Data/Fax/Voice/Spkp Modem (rev 08) 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15) > How about lsmod ? Module Size Used by vfat 16449 1 fat 52701 1 vfat sg 36573 0 sd_mod 20673 2 usb_storage 67105 1 scsi_mod 130665 3 sg,sd_mod,usb_storage bridge 51669 0 ppdev 12741 0 autofs4 23237 1 rfcomm 42965 0 l2cap 31809 5 rfcomm bluetooth 53285 2 rfcomm,l2cap sunrpc 142717 1 ip_conntrack_netbios_ns 6977 0 ipt_REJECT 9537 1 xt_state 6209 6 ip_conntrack 54681 2 ip_conntrack_netbios_ns,xt_state nfnetlink 10585 1 ip_conntrack xt_tcpudp 7233 8 iptable_filter 7105 1 ip_tables 16517 1 iptable_filter x_tables 16965 4 ipt_REJECT,xt_state,xt_tcpudp,ip_tables video 19269 0 button 10705 0 battery 13381 0 ac 8901 0 ipv6 249249 14 lp 16393 0 parport_pc 29541 1 parport 38153 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc nvram 12745 0 uhci_hcd 33489 0 snd_emu10k1_synth 10945 0 snd_emux_synth 36161 1 snd_emu10k1_synth snd_seq_virmidi 11201 1 snd_emux_synth snd_seq_midi_emul 10049 1 snd_emux_synth snd_emu10k1 108741 2 snd_emu10k1_synth snd_rawmidi 28225 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1 snd_ac97_codec 87905 1 snd_emu10k1 snd_ac97_bus 6465 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_seq_dummy 7749 0 snd_seq_oss 33985 0 snd_seq_midi_event 11329 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss snd_seq 53297 8 snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event emu10k1_gp 7873 0 gameport 19785 2 emu10k1_gp snd_pcm_oss 49489 0 snd_mixer_oss 20545 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 81989 3 snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss tulip 52449 0 snd_seq_device 12877 7 snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_timer 26949 3 snd_emu10k1,snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 14537 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm snd_util_mem 9153 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1 snd_hwdep 13637 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1 snd 54085 13 snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 13473 2 snd i2c_i801 12365 0 i2c_core 24897 1 i2c_i801 dm_snapshot 20333 0 dm_zero 6337 0 dm_mirror 24209 0 dm_mod 55257 6 dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror ext3 123849 2 jbd 57813 1 ext3 > I don't know, perhaps there is an error being logged in > /var/log/messages ? grep eth0 /var/log/messages that can shed more light > on the problem. Feb 24 10:30:41 Spot kernel: eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at cf076c00, 00:04:5A:55:96:57, IRQ 11. Feb 24 10:30:45 Spot kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 24 02:31:06 Spot ntpd[2267]: Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.112#123 Feb 24 02:32:09 Spot avahi-daemon[2290]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 24 02:32:09 Spot avahi-daemon[2290]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 02:32:09 Spot avahi-daemon[2290]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 02:32:17 Spot avahi-daemon[2290]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 02:32:17 Spot avahi-daemon[2290]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 02:32:17 Spot avahi-daemon[2290]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 24 02:32:18 Spot kernel: peth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. Feb 24 02:32:18 Spot kernel: device peth0 entered promiscuous mode Feb 24 02:32:18 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering learning state Feb 24 02:32:18 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering forwarding state Feb 24 02:32:18 Spot avahi-daemon[2290]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 24 02:32:18 Spot avahi-daemon[2290]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 02:32:18 Spot avahi-daemon[2290]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 02:32:21 Spot kernel: peth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 24 03:06:35 Spot system-config-network[4482]: ln //etc/sysconfig/network-scripts//ifcfg-eth0 //etc/sysconfig/networking/devices//ifcfg-eth0 Feb 24 03:06:35 Spot system-config-network[4482]: Linking eth0 to devices and putting it in profile default. Feb 24 03:06:35 Spot system-config-network[4482]: ln //etc/sysconfig/networking/devices//ifcfg-eth0 //etc/sysconfig/networking/profiles//default/ifcfg-eth0 Feb 24 03:32:30 Spot avahi-daemon[2290]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 10:59:59 Spot kernel: eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at cf034c00, FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF, IRQ 11. Feb 24 11:00:00 Spot kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 24 11:00:22 Spot ntpd[1946]: Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.112#123 Feb 24 11:00:26 Spot avahi-daemon[2085]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 24 11:00:26 Spot avahi-daemon[2085]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 11:00:26 Spot avahi-daemon[2085]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 11:00:37 Spot avahi-daemon[2085]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 24 11:00:37 Spot avahi-daemon[2085]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 11:00:37 Spot avahi-daemon[2085]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 11:00:37 Spot kernel: peth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. Feb 24 11:00:37 Spot kernel: device peth0 entered promiscuous mode Feb 24 11:00:37 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering learning state Feb 24 11:00:37 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering forwarding state Feb 24 11:00:38 Spot avahi-daemon[2085]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 24 11:00:38 Spot avahi-daemon[2085]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 11:00:38 Spot avahi-daemon[2085]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 11:00:40 Spot kernel: peth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 24 11:06:37 Spot system-config-network[2764]: -+ //etc/modprobe.conf eth0 alias tulip Feb 24 11:06:37 Spot system-config-network[2764]: chmod 0644 //etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg-eth0 Feb 24 11:10:35 Spot system-config-network[3115]: -+ //etc/modprobe.conf eth0 alias tulip Feb 24 11:10:35 Spot system-config-network[3115]: chmod 0644 //etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg-eth0 Feb 24 11:14:57 Spot avahi-daemon[2085]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 11:16:36 Spot kernel: eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at cf076c00, FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF, IRQ 11. Feb 24 11:16:37 Spot kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 24 11:16:56 Spot ntpd[1933]: Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.112#123 Feb 24 11:17:00 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 24 11:17:00 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 11:17:00 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 11:17:11 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 24 11:17:11 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 11:17:11 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 11:17:12 Spot kernel: peth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. Feb 24 11:17:12 Spot kernel: device peth0 entered promiscuous mode Feb 24 11:17:12 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering learning state Feb 24 11:17:12 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering forwarding state Feb 24 11:17:12 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 24 11:17:12 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 11:17:12 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 11:17:15 Spot kernel: peth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 24 11:24:23 Spot system-config-network[2742]: -+ //etc/modprobe.conf eth0 alias tulip Feb 24 11:24:23 Spot system-config-network[2742]: chmod 0644 //etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg-eth0 Feb 24 11:24:29 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 11:24:29 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 11:24:29 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 24 11:24:29 Spot dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 Feb 24 11:24:36 Spot dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15 Feb 24 11:24:51 Spot dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17 Feb 24 11:25:06 Spot system-config-network[2742]: -+ //etc/modprobe.conf eth0 alias tulip Feb 24 11:25:06 Spot system-config-network[2742]: chmod 0644 //etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg-eth0 Feb 24 11:25:08 Spot dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 Feb 24 11:25:10 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 24 11:25:10 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 11:25:10 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 11:25:22 Spot dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 Feb 24 11:28:01 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 11:28:01 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 11:28:01 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 24 11:28:07 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 24 11:28:07 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 11:28:07 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 11:28:54 Spot system-config-network[3051]: -+ //etc/modprobe.conf eth0 alias tulip Feb 24 11:28:54 Spot system-config-network[3051]: chmod 0644 //etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg-eth0 Feb 24 11:28:56 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 24 11:28:56 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 24 11:29:02 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 24 11:29:02 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 24 11:29:02 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 09:33:43 Spot kernel: eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at cf034c00, FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF, IRQ 11. Feb 25 09:33:44 Spot kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 25 09:34:05 Spot ntpd[1934]: Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.112#123 Feb 25 09:34:09 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 09:34:09 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 09:34:09 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 09:34:20 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 09:34:20 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 09:34:20 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 25 09:34:20 Spot kernel: peth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. Feb 25 09:34:20 Spot kernel: device peth0 entered promiscuous mode Feb 25 09:34:20 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering learning state Feb 25 09:34:20 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering forwarding state Feb 25 09:34:21 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 09:34:21 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 09:34:21 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 09:34:23 Spot kernel: peth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 25 09:51:44 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering disabled state Feb 25 09:51:44 Spot kernel: device peth0 left promiscuous mode Feb 25 09:51:44 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering disabled state Feb 25 09:51:52 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 09:51:52 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 09:51:52 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 25 09:52:03 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 09:52:03 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 09:52:03 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 09:52:18 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 09:52:18 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 25 09:52:58 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 09:52:58 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 09:52:58 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 10:02:07 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 10:02:07 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 25 10:02:17 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 10:02:17 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 10:02:17 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 10:09:28 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 10:09:28 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 25 10:09:35 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 10:09:35 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 10:09:35 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 10:10:55 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 10:10:55 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 25 10:11:01 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 10:11:01 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 10:11:01 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 10:12:57 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 10:12:57 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 25 10:13:04 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 10:13:04 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 10:13:04 Spot avahi-daemon[2073]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 11:45:32 Spot kernel: eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at cf076c00, FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF, IRQ 11. Feb 25 11:45:33 Spot kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 25 11:45:54 Spot ntpd[1948]: Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.112#123 Feb 25 11:45:58 Spot avahi-daemon[2087]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 11:45:58 Spot avahi-daemon[2087]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 11:45:58 Spot avahi-daemon[2087]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 11:46:09 Spot avahi-daemon[2087]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 25 11:46:09 Spot avahi-daemon[2087]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 11:46:09 Spot avahi-daemon[2087]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 11:46:09 Spot kernel: peth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. Feb 25 11:46:09 Spot kernel: device peth0 entered promiscuous mode Feb 25 11:46:09 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering learning state Feb 25 11:46:09 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering forwarding state Feb 25 11:46:10 Spot avahi-daemon[2087]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 11:46:10 Spot avahi-daemon[2087]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 11:46:10 Spot avahi-daemon[2087]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 11:46:12 Spot kernel: peth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 25 11:50:36 Spot avahi-daemon[2087]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 11:52:54 Spot kernel: eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at cf0c6c00, FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF, IRQ 11. Feb 25 11:52:55 Spot kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 25 11:53:17 Spot ntpd[1944]: Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.112#123 Feb 25 11:53:21 Spot avahi-daemon[2094]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 11:53:21 Spot avahi-daemon[2094]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 11:53:21 Spot avahi-daemon[2094]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 11:53:32 Spot avahi-daemon[2094]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 25 11:53:32 Spot avahi-daemon[2094]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 11:53:32 Spot avahi-daemon[2094]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 11:53:32 Spot kernel: peth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. Feb 25 11:53:32 Spot kernel: device peth0 entered promiscuous mode Feb 25 11:53:33 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering learning state Feb 25 11:53:33 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering forwarding state Feb 25 11:53:33 Spot avahi-daemon[2094]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 11:53:33 Spot avahi-daemon[2094]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 11:53:33 Spot avahi-daemon[2094]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 11:53:33 Spot kernel: eth0: duplicate address detected! Feb 25 11:53:35 Spot kernel: peth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 25 12:02:02 Spot avahi-daemon[2094]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 12:03:40 Spot kernel: eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at cf076c00, FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF, IRQ 11. Feb 25 12:03:41 Spot kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 25 12:04:04 Spot ntpd[1942]: Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.112#123 Feb 25 12:04:07 Spot avahi-daemon[2080]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 12:04:07 Spot avahi-daemon[2080]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 12:04:07 Spot avahi-daemon[2080]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 12:04:18 Spot avahi-daemon[2080]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 25 12:04:18 Spot avahi-daemon[2080]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 12:04:18 Spot avahi-daemon[2080]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 12:04:19 Spot kernel: peth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. Feb 25 12:04:19 Spot kernel: device peth0 entered promiscuous mode Feb 25 12:04:19 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering learning state Feb 25 12:04:19 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering forwarding state Feb 25 12:04:19 Spot avahi-daemon[2080]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 12:04:19 Spot avahi-daemon[2080]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 12:04:19 Spot avahi-daemon[2080]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 12:04:19 Spot kernel: eth0: duplicate address detected! Feb 25 12:04:22 Spot kernel: peth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 25 12:11:33 Spot avahi-daemon[2080]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 12:13:32 Spot kernel: eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at cf042c00, FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF, IRQ 11. Feb 25 12:13:32 Spot kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. Feb 25 12:13:55 Spot ntpd[1905]: Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.112#123 Feb 25 12:13:59 Spot avahi-daemon[2056]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 12:13:59 Spot avahi-daemon[2056]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 12:13:59 Spot avahi-daemon[2056]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 12:14:10 Spot avahi-daemon[2056]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 25 12:14:10 Spot avahi-daemon[2056]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 12:14:10 Spot avahi-daemon[2056]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 12:14:11 Spot kernel: peth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. Feb 25 12:14:11 Spot kernel: device peth0 entered promiscuous mode Feb 25 12:14:11 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering learning state Feb 25 12:14:11 Spot kernel: xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering forwarding state Feb 25 12:14:11 Spot avahi-daemon[2056]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 25 12:14:11 Spot avahi-daemon[2056]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.112. Feb 25 12:14:11 Spot avahi-daemon[2056]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.112 on eth0. Feb 25 12:14:13 Spot kernel: peth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. > In any case to make a bugzilla report you would need to provide info > like the above; might as well provide it here first, so that there is > enough info for others to help/refer you to bugzilla etc. Also, perhaps > provide the age and manufacturer/model of the machine (or component > parts if hand assembled). It's a 6-year-old Gateway with a Pentium 3 800MHz processor. Also, I seem to have forgotten an important detail. I get this error message when disabling the device (eth0) in the network configuration tool in Gnome: Device eth0 has MAC address FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF, instead of configured address 00:04:5A:55:96:57. Ignoring. Here's what dmesg | grep eth0 shows: eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at cf042c00, FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF, IRQ 11. eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. eth0: no IPv6 routers present peth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. device peth0 entered promiscuous mode xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering learning state xenbr0: port 2(peth0) entering forwarding state peth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1. peth0: no IPv6 routers present eth0: no IPv6 routers present Hope that helps! --Dane From berryja at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 02:53:06 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:53:06 -0600 Subject: Request for testers to confirm nv driver mouse cursor bug In-Reply-To: <4400D5DA.7000204@redhat.com> References: <4400D5DA.7000204@redhat.com> Message-ID: <8767947e0602251853y2ebc44c5l3238e3ef1bb1b20d@mail.gmail.com> On 2/25/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: > If you are using Nvidia video hardware with FC5test3 or later, and the > mouse cursor is invisible, or has any visible mouse pointer corruption, > please add a comment to the following bug report to confirm you are > having the same problem, and attach your X server log file as an > uncompressed file attachment: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182517 > > 2 chips have been identified as experiencing this problem so far, so > once people have updated the report with any other chips that have > the problem, I am going to disable hardware cursors on those chips > by default so that things work out of the box in FC5 for as many > nv users as possible. I do *not* see any mouse pointer corruption on my system. x86_64 with a 6600 GT. From lspci: 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] (rev a2) The very end tip of the arrow does seem to have one pixel that seems to become about the opposite color of whatever is underneath it; mostly only noticable when the pointer is on a white background. I don't think that is what you are referring to, though : ). Jonathan From berryja at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 03:03:36 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:03:36 -0600 Subject: man pages for GLUT? Message-ID: <8767947e0602251903m7cf66b00i4035dae616833566@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Does anyone know why there are no man pages included for GLUT in the freeglut (or freeglut-devel) package? My school has some version of SuSE running on the computers that we do OpenGL development on. The SuSE version of the freeglut rpms has the man pages (specifially, they are in the freeglut-devel rpm). I've noticed that there is some HTML documentation included with the Fedora rpm, but nothing quite as helpful as man pages. If there are not any licencing issues with the man pages (could there be?), would it be possible for the Fedora rpms to include these? I have no idea where they come from. Jonathan From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sun Feb 26 03:34:18 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:34:18 -0500 Subject: Metacity dumping functionality - sessions needs cleared (was everything install) In-Reply-To: <43FFC7E1.8070907@insight.rr.com> References: <20060225023400.850.qmail@web52610.mail.yahoo.com> <43FFC7E1.8070907@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <440121BA.5010400@insight.rr.com> Jim Cornette wrote: > Antonio Olivares wrote: >> Hi > > Hello! >>>> All my windows launched end up stuck to the top of my screen and >>>> there is no way to switch to previously launched applications. >>>> The last application launched has focus. It appears there is no >>>> window manager. Metacity is the WM, GNOME is the desktop. >>> >>> Is there a bug report on this? . This doesnt happen for me. Does it >>> happen for anyone else at all? > Metacity crashed because of a third party driver for the ATI video being installed. Metacity did work after clearing sessions. Removing the third party driver was the fix. Metacity probably should display some error dialog for the user in the GUI to inform the user it could not start because of a problem encountered. Just to clear up the sessions did not help out matters. Jim From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 26 03:22:11 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:22:11 +1100 Subject: eth0 ceases to function after reboot on FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <200602251848.24000.dmutters@gmail.com> References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> <4400F63B.8080905@bigpond.net.au> <200602251848.24000.dmutters@gmail.com> Message-ID: <44011EE3.1070105@bigpond.net.au> Dane Mutters wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions, Dave. Here's some info: > >> Can you give the result of ifconfig ? > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF > inet addr:192.168.1.112 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 I don't think I have seen any machine not show the MAC address properly; this one (HWaddr) does not seem legit, but I have no idea why. ... > peth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF > inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:12227 errors:0 dropped:736 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:610 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:914379 (892.9 KiB) TX bytes:44795 (43.7 KiB) > Interrupt:11 Base address:0x2c00 > > vif0.0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF > inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:255 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:11682 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:12811 (12.5 KiB) TX bytes:869926 (849.5 KiB) > > xenbr0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF > inet6 addr: fe80::200:ff:fe00:0/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:12157 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:725575 (708.5 KiB) TX bytes:468 (468.0 b) ... So you are doing the xen thing, or did you not mean to install xen ? Maybe try uninstalling the xen parts: again, I have no experience with this. >> When you said currently: what method have you been using to try >> different ethernet settings ? > > I have tried using static and DHCP. Currently I'm using static. What I meant was are you hand editing config files or are you using system-config-network (System|Admin|Network) ? # rpm -q system-config-network What does system-config-network|eth0|edit|hardware device|Mac address show ? Is the bind to MAC address ticked ? Does clicking probe update / put in a real address ? >> What is the ethernet adapter ? > Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev. 11) Under what OS was the card last working ? If you dual boot, does the card work OK in the other OS ? Is this an upgrade install ? ... >> What is the result of lspci ? ... > 01:09.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet ... >> How about lsmod ? > > Module Size Used by ... > tulip 52449 0 ... I can only guess that tulip is the correct driver for your card If another linux used previously was it previously using the tulip module ? Can you find out which eth chip your linksys card actually uses ? >> I don't know, perhaps there is an error being logged in >> /var/log/messages ? grep eth0 /var/log/messages that can shed more light >> on the problem. > > Feb 24 10:30:41 Spot kernel: eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at cf076c00, > 00:04:5A:55:96:57, IRQ 11. > Feb 24 10:30:45 Spot kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link > partner capability of 45e1. It seems to be detecting the link carrier, and going in full duplex OK. Is the netcard and switch / hub showing link activity ? > Feb 24 02:32:18 Spot kernel: peth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. > Feb 24 02:32:18 Spot kernel: device peth0 entered promiscuous mode Someone else know if this is normal for xen installs ? (this is normal when doing packet captures, but why here ?) ... >> In any case to make a bugzilla report you would need to provide info >> like the above; might as well provide it here first, so that there is >> enough info for others to help/refer you to bugzilla etc. Also, perhaps >> provide the age and manufacturer/model of the machine (or component >> parts if hand assembled). > > It's a 6-year-old Gateway with a Pentium 3 800MHz processor. > > Also, I seem to have forgotten an important detail. I get this error message > when disabling the device (eth0) in the network configuration tool in Gnome: > > Device eth0 has MAC address FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF, instead of configured address > 00:04:5A:55:96:57. Ignoring. Do you know/can you find out the correct address and enter it in sys-con-network, in the area mentioned above ? My guess is: for some reason the tools aren't able to retrieve the correct MAC address. Your machine will happily send out data with a return MAC address that is incorrect, which the eth driver ignores (since not destined to itself), leaving you in network isolation. > Hope that helps! As you can see it's not a one step troubleshooting process ;-) DaveT. From pb at partha.com Sun Feb 26 03:52:38 2006 From: pb at partha.com (Partha Bagchi) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:52:38 -0500 Subject: firefox i386 RPM should be included on x86_64 iso In-Reply-To: <200602251952.27138.prigault@oricom.ca> References: <200602251952.27138.prigault@oricom.ca> Message-ID: <44012606.8080308@partha.com> Philippe Rigault wrote: > Due to the lack of a 64-bit flash plugin, the only way to browse > flash-enabled sites currently is through the 32-bit version of firefox (unless > there is a way to use the 32-bit plugin with firefox.x86_64, which I think is > not possible). > > Therefore, I consider the 32-bit version firefox a must have on the x86_64 iso > files (there is no firefox i386.rpm in the DVD of FC5test3). > > I am even recommending the 32-bit version to be the default on x86_64 until a > proper alternative (free flash plugin or 64-bit version distributed by > Macromedia) exists. > > Regards. > > Take a look at this: http://www.gibix.net/projects/nspluginwrapper/ I am using it successfully in most cases with 64bit firefox. From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Sun Feb 26 04:00:03 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:00:03 -0500 Subject: install failure rawhide of 2006-02-25 - no kernel installed Message-ID: <20060226040003.GA26355@wolves.durham.nc.us> Test installation of today's rawhide 2006-02-25.... Two installs fail on a Celeron P-III (Coppermine) machine with a failure to install a kernel into /boot! console 3 shows a "kernel package selected" trace, but after all is said and done, there is no kernel in the /boot partition. See Bz #183088. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From glen at bhbnet.ca Sun Feb 26 04:23:21 2006 From: glen at bhbnet.ca (Glen Bishop) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:23:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 + nforce raid = noboot? Message-ID: <60896.209.222.60.166.1140927801.squirrel@webmail.bhbnet.ca> hello, im having difficulty getting core 5 test 3 installed on my system, its an asus a8n-vm csm motherboard (nforce 430) and 2 seagate barracuda drives in a raid1 done by the nvidia 430. there seems to be talk of other having this issue over on fedoraforum.org but not much resolution, so im looking here :) for me either doing the default layout (with lvm) or creating a custom partition table makes the boot process fail with the below message (see screenshot and thanks to the pic donor) http://www.glenbishop.com/20060225-FC5-test3-kernel_panic.jpg i can load up the drives in normal sata mode and everything will install fine, just the raid1 is having the issue. i've tried a couple things with grub but nothing seems to work. does anyone have a resolution for this? thanks -- -glen From eric at interplas.com Sun Feb 26 05:32:30 2006 From: eric at interplas.com (Eric Wood) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 00:32:30 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Test 3 + nforce raid = noboot? In-Reply-To: <60896.209.222.60.166.1140927801.squirrel@webmail.bhbnet.ca> References: <60896.209.222.60.166.1140927801.squirrel@webmail.bhbnet.ca> Message-ID: <44013D6E.20007@interplas.com> Glen Bishop wrote: > i can load up the drives in normal sata mode and everything will install > fine, just the raid1 is having the issue. i've tried a couple things with > grub but nothing seems to work. > > does anyone have a resolution for this? Eventually more info about dmraid will be here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DmraidStatus Frankly, its unclear if dmraid will be stable enough on the supported chipsets by the time FC5 is released. My Via chipset does RAID-1 reasonably well up until you simulate actual drive replacements, rebuilds, etc. Hopefully, in the future there will be one unified raid monitoring software that applies to all chipsets. Currently in the windows world, you have to deal with many various raid monitors with different interfaces, nuances, etc... yawn. -eric wood From dmutters at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 05:38:21 2006 From: dmutters at gmail.com (Dane Mutters) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:38:21 -0800 Subject: eth0 ceases to function after reboot on FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <44011EE3.1070105@bigpond.net.au> References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602251848.24000.dmutters@gmail.com> <44011EE3.1070105@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <200602252138.21192.dmutters@gmail.com> On Saturday 25 February 2006 07:22 pm, David Timms wrote: > I don't think I have seen any machine not show the MAC address properly; > this one (HWaddr) does not seem legit, but I have no idea why. Seems very odd to me as well. > So you are doing the xen thing, or did you not mean to install xen ? > Maybe try uninstalling the xen parts: again, I have no experience with > this. I installed Xen so that I could experiment with it. I haven't yet done anything with it, although I would like to leave it on in case I decide to (this being a testing machine). > What I meant was are you hand editing config files or are you using > system-config-network (System|Admin|Network) ? I have been using the GUI tool in gnome (System|Admin|Network). I occasionally do an ifconfig or ifup/down to test things and get info. > # rpm -q system-config-network system-config-network-1.3.30-2.1 > What does system-config-network|eth0|edit|hardware device|Mac address show > ? Is the bind to MAC address ticked ? > Does clicking probe update / put in a real address ? The box is ticked, but probing it changes it from what I think is the right one, to fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff. > Under what OS was the card last working ? > If you dual boot, does the card work OK in the other OS ? > Is this an upgrade install ? Fedora 5 Test 3. I installed fresh from the DVD (NOT an upgrade), rebooted and it worked. Then I rebooted again and it didn't work. Before the install I had Ubuntu (Breezy) installed, and it worked perfectly. > I can only guess that tulip is the correct driver for your card > If another linux used previously was it previously using the tulip module ? > Can you find out which eth chip your linksys card actually uses ? So far I don't know what chipset it uses, but several web sites say it uses the Tulip driver. Knoppix agrees that it uses the tulip driver. > It seems to be detecting the link carrier, and going in full duplex OK. > Is the netcard and switch / hub showing link activity ? It shows a minimal amount of activity. > > Feb 24 02:32:18 Spot kernel: peth0: Promiscuous mode enabled. > > Feb 24 02:32:18 Spot kernel: device peth0 entered promiscuous mode > > Someone else know if this is normal for xen installs ? > (this is normal when doing packet captures, but why here ?) hmmm...dunno... > >> In any case to make a bugzilla report you would need to provide info > >> like the above; might as well provide it here first, so that there is > >> enough info for others to help/refer you to bugzilla etc. Also, perhaps > >> provide the age and manufacturer/model of the machine (or component > >> parts if hand assembled). > > > > It's a 6-year-old Gateway with a Pentium 3 800MHz processor. > > > > Also, I seem to have forgotten an important detail. I get this error > > message when disabling the device (eth0) in the network configuration > > tool in Gnome: > > > > Device eth0 has MAC address FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF, instead of configured > > address 00:04:5A:55:96:57. Ignoring. > > Do you know/can you find out the correct address and enter it in > sys-con-network, in the area mentioned above ? Fedora originally reported the MAC as being: 00:04:5A:55:96:57, but now Fedora and Knoppix are both reporting it as: FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF. Very strange... > My guess is: for some reason the tools aren't able to retrieve the > correct MAC address. Your machine will happily send out data with a > return MAC address that is incorrect, which the eth driver ignores > (since not destined to itself), leaving you in network isolation. > > > Hope that helps! > > As you can see it's not a one step troubleshooting process ;-) > > DaveT. So it would seem! :-) --Dane From alor at taipang.com Sun Feb 26 06:18:06 2006 From: alor at taipang.com (Alor) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:18:06 +0500 Subject: nVidia and selinux permission denied Message-ID: <1140934686.3055.10.camel@logi.telenet.ru> Is there possibility of using SElinux enforce mode with nvidia driver? After successful installing nVidia driver 1.0-8178 when setenforce=1 X server not started with error message: (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied Thanks for any suggestions! Best regards, Alex Long From clayton at cjrogers.net Sun Feb 26 07:39:53 2006 From: clayton at cjrogers.net (Clayton Rogers) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:39:53 +1000 Subject: IPW2200 generating is_queue_full error Message-ID: <44015B49.7030904@cjrogers.net> I'm receiving the following error when performing a modprobe on ipw2200: ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection eth1: NETDEV_TX_BUSY returned; driver should report queue full via ieee_device->is_queue_full. This error seems to have been addressed in version 1.0.9 of the ipw2200 kernel module whereas 1.1.0 of the module is available. Is this a problem on my end or should I log a call on bugzilla? Cheers From yinyang at eburg.com Sun Feb 26 07:50:00 2006 From: yinyang at eburg.com (Gordon Messmer) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:50:00 -0800 Subject: Mouse lockups in X.org w/ ATI Message-ID: <44015DA8.5070706@eburg.com> Using FC5-test3, will all of the updates as of tonight, I'm still seeing X lose input from the mouse. None of the functions -- motion, buttons, or scroll wheel -- function after I'm in X for about a minute. If I switch VTs and come back, it's usually working again. I saw this problem in the installer, and have seen it consistently as I've applied updates since installing a couple of days ago. Nothing is printed in X.org's log at the time of the lockup, and killing processes in my X session doesn't restore control of the mouse. My PS2 keyboard doesn't seem to be affected. The mouse is a Logitech USB wheel mouse, and in case it matters, I'm using an ATI video card. X.org's log says: (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] rev 1, Mem @ 0xf0000000/26, 0xff7f0000/16, I/O @ 0xc800/8, BIOS @ 0xff7c0000/17 (--) PCI: (1:0:1) ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Radeon 9000] (Secondary) rev 1, Mem @ 0xec000000/26, 0xff7e0000/16 Is anyone else seeing this problem? I've only seen one other post on the list archives that looks similar. From buildsys at redhat.com Sun Feb 26 08:32:05 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 03:32:05 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060226 changes Message-ID: <200602260832.k1Q8W5SA014717@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: beagle-0.2.1-12 --------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Matthias Clasen 0.2.1-12 - Remove more "run from ." nonsense (#182709) - Don't spew tons of debug output (#182660) - Try to make the trigger more robust (#182679) fontconfig-2.3.94-1 ------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.3.94-1 - Update to 2.3.94 gdm-1:2.13.0.8-6 ---------------- * Sat Feb 25 2006 Ray Strode - 1:2.13.0.8-6 - fix a broken link gnome-icon-theme-2.14.1-1 ------------------------- * Sat Feb 25 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.14.1-1 - Update to 2.14.1 gnome-utils-1:2.13.93-1 ----------------------- * Sat Feb 25 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.93-1 - Update to gnome-utils-2.13.93 - Update to gucharmap 1.5.3 librsvg2-2.14.0-1 ----------------- * Sat Feb 25 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.14.0-1 - Update to 2.14.0 mesa-6.4.2-5 ------------ * Sat Feb 25 2006 Mike A. Harris 6.4.2-5 - Disable the expeimental r300 DRI driver, as it has turned out to cause instability and system hangs for many users. vte-0.11.19-1.fc5.1 ------------------- * Sat Feb 25 2006 Matthias Clasen 0.11.19-1 - Update to 0.11.19 - Drop upstreamed patch xorg-x11-xfs-1:1.0.1-3 ---------------------- * Sat Feb 25 2006 Mike A. Harris 1:1.0.1-3 - Redirect output of "rm -rf fonts.dir" to /dev/null in xfs.init Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.i386 requires libopenobex.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.i386 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.i386 requires tomcat4 Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.ia64 requires libopenobex.so.1()(64bit) rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ia64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ia64 requires tomcat4 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.ppc requires libopenobex.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc requires tomcat4 Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.ppc64 requires libopenobex.so.1()(64bit) struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc64 requires tomcat4 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390 requires tomcat4 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390x requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390x requires tomcat4 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.x86_64 requires libopenobex.so.1()(64bit) libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.i386 requires libopenobex.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.x86_64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.x86_64 requires tomcat4 From mharris at mharris.ca Sun Feb 26 08:42:20 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 03:42:20 -0500 Subject: Request for testers to confirm nv driver mouse cursor bug In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602251853y2ebc44c5l3238e3ef1bb1b20d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4400D5DA.7000204@redhat.com> <8767947e0602251853y2ebc44c5l3238e3ef1bb1b20d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440169EC.4050907@mharris.ca> Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 2/25/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: > >>If you are using Nvidia video hardware with FC5test3 or later, and the >>mouse cursor is invisible, or has any visible mouse pointer corruption, >>please add a comment to the following bug report to confirm you are >>having the same problem, and attach your X server log file as an >>uncompressed file attachment: >> >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182517 >> >>2 chips have been identified as experiencing this problem so far, so >>once people have updated the report with any other chips that have >>the problem, I am going to disable hardware cursors on those chips >>by default so that things work out of the box in FC5 for as many >>nv users as possible. > > > I do *not* see any mouse pointer corruption on my system. x86_64 with > a 6600 GT. From lspci: > 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce > 6600 GT] (rev a2) That's not a PCI ID, but a textual description of a video card. PCI ID is 2 32bit hex numbers of the form VENDOR:DEVICE lspci -vn It's the numerical value that matters from a programmatical standpoint. If it turns out 2 people have the same device ID, but one has no cursor, and the other works fine, that would be useful information to add to the X.Org bug reprot for the driver maintainer though. HTH -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Sun Feb 26 08:56:02 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 03:56:02 -0500 Subject: man pages for GLUT? In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602251903m7cf66b00i4035dae616833566@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0602251903m7cf66b00i4035dae616833566@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44016D22.4050208@mharris.ca> Jonathan Berry wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know why there are no man pages included for GLUT in the > freeglut (or freeglut-devel) package? Because the freeglut tarball does not contain any manpages. > My school has some version of SuSE running on the computers that we > do OpenGL development on. The SuSE version of the freeglut rpms has > the man pages (specifially, they are in the freeglut-devel rpm). I haven't looked at the SuSE freeglut rpm, however the freeglut source code does not have any manpages, so there are none installed. If SuSE wrote manpages for freeglut, I would hope that they would submit them back to the freeglut project, as that would be the right thing to do. One way to find out would be for you to download the SuSE freeglut src.rpm and install it to see where the manpages come from. If they come from the official GLUT sources however, then they're under the same license for GLUT, which is not OSS, and not something that can be included in Fedora Core. > I've noticed that there is some HTML documentation included with the > Fedora rpm, but nothing quite as helpful as man pages. If there > are not any licencing issues with the man pages (could there be?), > would it be possible for the Fedora rpms to include these? > I have no idea where they come from. If there are GLUT manpages which are licensed under a proper OSI approved OSS license, once the author of them submits them to the freeglut project, they will probably appear in a future release of freeglut. Study the SuSE src.rpm and determine where the manpages they allegedly ship actually come from, and try to find a license for them. Another option is for someone to volunteer to write manpages for freeglut from scratch and submit them to the freeglut project. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Sun Feb 26 09:30:31 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:30:31 +0100 Subject: firefox i386 RPM should be included on x86_64 iso In-Reply-To: <200602251952.27138.prigault@oricom.ca> References: <200602251952.27138.prigault@oricom.ca> Message-ID: <1140946232.2934.10.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 19:52 -0500, Philippe Rigault wrote: > Due to the lack of a 64-bit flash plugin, the only way to browse > flash-enabled sites currently is through the 32-bit version of firefox (unless > there is a way to use the 32-bit plugin with firefox.x86_64, which I think is > not possible). > > Therefore, I consider the 32-bit version firefox a must have on the x86_64 iso > files (there is no firefox i386.rpm in the DVD of FC5test3). > > I am even recommending the 32-bit version to be the default on x86_64 until a > proper alternative (free flash plugin or 64-bit version distributed by > Macromedia) exists. ... and remove any incentive for macromedia to ever make a 64 bit plugin at the same time ;) From jos at xos.nl Sun Feb 26 09:34:23 2006 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:34:23 +0100 Subject: eth0 ceases to function after reboot on FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <200602252138.21192.dmutters@gmail.com>; from dmutters@gmail.com on Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 09:38:21PM -0800 References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602251848.24000.dmutters@gmail.com> <44011EE3.1070105@bigpond.net.au> <200602252138.21192.dmutters@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060226103423.A13669@xos037.xos.nl> On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 09:38:21PM -0800, Dane Mutters wrote: > Fedora originally reported the MAC as being: 00:04:5A:55:96:57, but now Fedora > and Knoppix are both reporting it as: FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF. Very strange... I've seen more than one Ethernet card dying this way, so it might very well be a real hardware failure. What you can try: power off the system completely, remove power cable, wait 10 sec or so, plug in the cable and power on again and see if something has changed. At least with one piece of (bad) HW this helped in the past (but it can go wrong again at every boot). -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Sun Feb 26 09:36:34 2006 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:36:34 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> Message-ID: <20060226093634.GA10063@br-online.de> Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Ralph Angenendt wrote: > > Hi, not sure if this is the right place: > > > > On FC5test3 with Xair (all updates as of today) DRM fails strangely: > > > > | [ralph at logout ~]$ glxinfo > > | name of display: :0.0 > > | libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted) > > | libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering > > | display: :0 screen: 0 > > | direct rendering: No > > Errm, yes. Worst possible bug report :) > > Xair is at xorg-x11-server-Xair-1.0.0.0.2.20060207-5 > > The card is detected as > > Chipset: "ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP)" (ChipID = 0x4c66) > > The xorg.log tells me that drm gets installed successfully. But this here on the console looks like an error: *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/Xair: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x09071e40 *** ======= Backtrace: ========= /lib/libc.so.6[0x164de8] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x79)[0x1682ed] /usr/bin/Xair(Xfree+0x23)[0x8205576] /usr/lib/xair/modules/extensions/libdri.so(DRIDestroyInfoRec+0x2a)[0xe269b7] /usr/lib/xair/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so(RADEONDRICloseScreen+0x1c3)[0x91f063] /usr/lib/xair/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so[0x90f1b1] /usr/bin/Xair[0x818f072] /usr/bin/Xair[0x80f84b7] /usr/bin/Xair[0x80d79be] /usr/bin/Xair[0x8156e40] /usr/bin/Xair[0x818c0a3] /usr/bin/Xair[0x81f6a92] /usr/bin/Xair(main+0x7b9)[0x806e3ad] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc)[0x1167a4] /usr/bin/Xair(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0xad)[0x806db31] Ralph -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In general: A. Pushing the i386 will reduce any incentive Macromedia might have to actually get off their back side and port their flash player to 64bit. B. Not all people want/use flash. (I for one) C. Having the i386 firefox requires a long line of i386 dependences that people will rather no install. (AKA i386-free installation.) D. Nothing stops anyone from replacing the x86_64 rpms with i386 ones. E. There's a lot of working being done to improve the free flash plug-in. Hopefully it'll improve in the coming months. Gilboa From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Sun Feb 26 10:11:51 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:11:51 +0100 Subject: firefox i386 RPM should be included on x86_64 iso In-Reply-To: <44012606.8080308@partha.com> References: <200602251952.27138.prigault@oricom.ca> <44012606.8080308@partha.com> Message-ID: <44017EE7.9020906@feuerpokemon.de> Partha Bagchi wrote: > Philippe Rigault wrote: > >> Due to the lack of a 64-bit flash plugin, the only way to browse >> flash-enabled sites currently is through the 32-bit version of >> firefox (unless there is a way to use the 32-bit plugin with >> firefox.x86_64, which I think is not possible). >> >> Therefore, I consider the 32-bit version firefox a must have on the >> x86_64 iso files (there is no firefox i386.rpm in the DVD of FC5test3). >> >> I am even recommending the 32-bit version to be the default on x86_64 >> until a proper alternative (free flash plugin or 64-bit version >> distributed by Macromedia) exists. >> >> Regards. >> >> > > Take a look at this: http://www.gibix.net/projects/nspluginwrapper/ > > I am using it successfully in most cases with 64bit firefox. > nice project but not free (else it would be good to have it in extras) you said you are using it in most cases... in which cases does it fail? (will test it now using mozilla which is still x86_64 here) From cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk Sun Feb 26 10:18:06 2006 From: cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk (Anne Wilson) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:18:06 +0000 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <200602261018.07618.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> On Saturday 25 February 2006 22:31, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > Then, cd burning worked again. Yay! Only it failed randomly sometimes > for some reason that I couldn't figure out. Eventually I discovered > it was because of autorun or magicdev or something like that, so I > blew those away and it worked again. Then, if I tried to mount a > CD on CDROM unit #2, it would fry the burn happening on CDburner > unit #1 (both on same IDE cable). > You could call that one self-inflicted :-) > Ever since then, which was around RHL 7.1 or maybe 7.2, CD burning > has been working then broken, then working, then broken, etc., at > least for me. I've tried 3 different burners, one a DVD burner, and > have experienced unreliable behaviour which I considered unacceptable. > Each time, I scan the lists and bugzilla and find various reports of > problems, and then just work around it temporarily by rebooting a box > into XP and using Nero or CDRwin. As much as I hate Windows totally, > I don't remember the last time I burned a frisbee in the evil > proprietary OS. > In contrast, I have been burning in linux, first on Mandrake/Mandriva then on FC4, for over 4 years. When K3B first came out I had problems with it, but I had been happily burning with XCDRoast, so I stuck with that for another 6 months or so. Since then K3B has been fine. I still use either, depending on what I want to do. In neither case did I have to do anything other than run the application's setup. > All I can say is that hopefully all of the different aspects of > why cd/dvd burning in Linux is currently a bumpy ride for at least > some people, eventually get worked out, whatever the root cause(s) > happen to be. > As Jeff remarked, speed can be the cause of problems. I always set the maximum burn speed for half the rate that the drive claims. Coasters are almost unknown for me. I don't think that applications are the cause of your problems, Mike, so maybe it's media, or maybe it's settings. Anne -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(will test it now using mozilla which is > still x86_64 here) > java does not work :( From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 26 07:51:05 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:51:05 +1100 Subject: eth0 ceases to function after reboot on FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <200602252138.21192.dmutters@gmail.com> References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602251848.24000.dmutters@gmail.com> <44011EE3.1070105@bigpond.net.au> <200602252138.21192.dmutters@gmail.com> Message-ID: <44015DE9.6060500@bigpond.net.au> Dane Mutters wrote: > On Saturday 25 February 2006 07:22 pm, David Timms wrote: ... > I installed Xen so that I could experiment with it. I haven't yet done > anything with it, although I would like to leave it on in case I decide to > (this being a testing machine). http://www.google.com.au/search?q=linux+eth0+mac+address+wrong+FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF&hl=en&lr=&start=20&sa=N http://bugzilla.xensource.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=471 - it's a bit different - the xen part is getting the weird mac, but eth0 is OK. Looks like some serious config is required for xen, I think fedoranews or one of those sites has an intro page. I'd be interested to see if removing (temporarily) the xen stuff solves the problem. This would definitely narrow down the possibilities ;) and point to which component is applicable. DaveT. From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Sun Feb 26 10:45:20 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:45:20 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <20060226093634.GA10063@br-online.de> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060226093634.GA10063@br-online.de> Message-ID: <1140950720.2934.15.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> > But this here on the console looks like an error: > > *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/Xair: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x09071e40 *** > ======= Backtrace: ========= > /lib/libc.so.6[0x164de8] > /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x79)[0x1682ed] > /usr/bin/Xair(Xfree+0x23)[0x8205576] > /usr/lib/xair/modules/extensions/libdri.so(DRIDestroyInfoRec+0x2a)[0xe269b7] > /usr/lib/xair/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so(RADEONDRICloseScreen+0x1c3)[0x91f063] > /usr/lib/xair/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so[0x90f1b1] > /usr/bin/Xair[0x818f072] > /usr/bin/Xair[0x80f84b7] > /usr/bin/Xair[0x80d79be] > /usr/bin/Xair[0x8156e40] > /usr/bin/Xair[0x818c0a3] > /usr/bin/Xair[0x81f6a92] > /usr/bin/Xair(main+0x7b9)[0x806e3ad] > /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc)[0x1167a4] > /usr/bin/Xair(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0xad)[0x806db3] Hi, yes this is a real bad real bug in Xair... you can improve the quality of this bugreport by 1) installing the respective -debuginfo rpms (in this case of Xair and the driver) 2) running the app from inside gdb and then when the crash hits, 3) type "bt" that gives a similar backtrace, but with a LOT more useful information (such as function names and filenames + line numbers) for the developers to figure this one out... From russell at coker.com.au Sun Feb 26 11:00:45 2006 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:00:45 +1100 Subject: 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 memory leak? Message-ID: <200602262200.49225.russell@coker.com.au> I recently setup a server on the Internet in a fairly default FC5T2 configuration. I had it running kernel 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 for 9 days when I noticed that it had apparently run out of kernel memory. All processes were highly swapped and the OOM killer was killing processes (by the time I noticed the problem most services had been killed). The machine is a P3 with 256M of RAM, it has full net access with no firewall (iptables is used in a fairly default configuration but there is nothing in front of the machine protecting it). Is there a known kernel memory leak in 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5? The machine in question has BIND, Postfix, Amavis + clamav, and Postgrey installed. However as it doesn't yet have an MX record pointing to is there has been little use (some DNS traffic is all that it would get). I tried rebooting the machine and it crashed. I guess that the OOM killer killed something that was needed for a reboot. Tomorrow when I get it running again I will upgrade it to the latest kernel. Let me know if there are any tests I should perform if this happens again (unfortunately I can't get a net-dump server in there but disk-dump is an option I guess). -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From fctesting at fletchersweb.net Sun Feb 26 11:40:13 2006 From: fctesting at fletchersweb.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:40:13 +0000 Subject: Latest kernel won't boot Message-ID: <200602261140.22404.fctesting@fletchersweb.net> I installed FC5t3 from the CDs onto my son's PC yesterday. After running the updater and rebooting it gets to:- input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as class/input/input1 then stops. The keyboard is working at this stage but it goes no further. This is with kernel 2.6.15-1.1977_FC5smp If I boot with kernel 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp then it works. Hardware is an Intel D865PERL motherboard with 3GHz P4. Dave Fletcher -- Registered Linux user number 393408 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From david.r.bentley at btinternet.com Sun Feb 26 12:07:09 2006 From: david.r.bentley at btinternet.com (DAVID BENTLEY) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:07:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Latest kernel won't boot In-Reply-To: <200602261140.22404.fctesting@fletchersweb.net> Message-ID: <20060226120709.22393.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I raised a bug which mentions this issue yesterday but after removing the kernel mentioned (1977_FC5smp) and doing yesterdays updates I couldn't install it again to get any logs of what is happening but it failed at exactly the same point in the boot sequence. The report is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183037 if you can attach any log messages from /var/log/messages relating to kernel 1977_FC5smp it may shed more light on why it is failing to boot. --- David Fletcher wrote: > I installed FC5t3 from the CDs onto my son's PC > yesterday. > > After running the updater and rebooting it gets to:- > > input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as > class/input/input1 > > then stops. The keyboard is working at this stage > but it goes no further. This > is with kernel 2.6.15-1.1977_FC5smp > > If I boot with kernel 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp then it > works. > > Hardware is an Intel D865PERL motherboard with 3GHz > P4. > > Dave Fletcher > > -- > Registered Linux user number 393408 > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sun Feb 26 12:13:02 2006 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:13:02 +0000 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <1140955982.4128.95.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 17:31 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > In Linux, I'm starting to think the answer is "no". I got my first > CD burner about 7-8 years ago, and used it in Linux for many years. > I also used CDRWin and another app I forget the name of now in Windows > occasionally when I wanted to burn DAO mode, but once DAO mode was > supported in Linux on my burner, I stuck with Linux burning using > xcdroast for a very long time. > > Then at some point, something changed in the kernel which broke CD > burning for me, and it wasn't fixed for months. During that time, > I switched to using CDRwin for everything in Windows again. It > was frustrating rebooting just to burn a CD, but necessary. This is exactly the root of my frustration. With FC1 burning was 100% reliable. Then it broke and I've had trouble ever since. Presumably that was the change between 2.4 and 2.6 kernels and change to IDE CD drive handling. From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sun Feb 26 12:36:44 2006 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:36:44 +0000 Subject: WiFi card detected as Ethernet Message-ID: <1140957404.4128.101.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Hi, My WiFi card is listed as an Ethernet card in system-config-network. Consequently I can't configure the WEP key and other wireless settings. So I have two questions: - What can I do to get it to be listed as a WiFi card or will I have to hack the scripts manually? - Is this a known bug? The card is listed as "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter" Thanks, Leon... From paul at permanentmail.com Sun Feb 26 12:49:30 2006 From: paul at permanentmail.com (Paul Dickson) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:49:30 -0700 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <20060226054930.0ecf89ae.paul@permanentmail.com> On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:21:17 +0000, Leon Stringer wrote: > I'm trying to install FC5t3 on another computer, but I can't burn the > ISOs. > > I've tried burning from GNOME and using cdrecord, e.g. > > cdrecord dev=/dev/hda -eject -v -dao FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso I just burned a CD with: cdrecord mycd.iso It chose TAO rather than DAO, and 4x because it's a CD-RW I just blanked with "cdrecord blank=fast". The CD mounts OK if I mount as root, otherwise it tell me "You are not privileged to mount the volume 'volume-name'." But it tells me this for other CDs too. -Paul From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 26 13:07:56 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:07:56 +0000 Subject: Request for testers to confirm nv driver mouse cursor bug In-Reply-To: <440169EC.4050907@mharris.ca> References: <4400D5DA.7000204@redhat.com> <8767947e0602251853y2ebc44c5l3238e3ef1bb1b20d@mail.gmail.com> <440169EC.4050907@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <4401A82C.7030605@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/26/2006 08:42 AM, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Jonathan Berry wrote: >> On 2/25/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: >> >>> If you are using Nvidia video hardware with FC5test3 or later, and the >>> mouse cursor is invisible, or has any visible mouse pointer corruption, >>> please add a comment to the following bug report to confirm you are >>> having the same problem, and attach your X server log file as an >>> uncompressed file attachment: >>> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182517 >>> >>> 2 chips have been identified as experiencing this problem so far, so >>> once people have updated the report with any other chips that have >>> the problem, I am going to disable hardware cursors on those chips >>> by default so that things work out of the box in FC5 for as many >>> nv users as possible. >> >> >> I do *not* see any mouse pointer corruption on my system. x86_64 with >> a 6600 GT. From lspci: >> 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce >> 6600 GT] (rev a2) > > That's not a PCI ID, but a textual description of a video card. > PCI ID is 2 32bit hex numbers of the form VENDOR:DEVICE > > lspci -vn > > It's the numerical value that matters from a programmatical > standpoint. If it turns out 2 people have the same device > ID, but one has no cursor, and the other works fine, that would > be useful information to add to the X.Org bug reprot for the > driver maintainer though. My cursor seems fine too (except for the point described by Jonathan). Added my info and lspci -vn to the bug. Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 26 13:22:06 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:22:06 +0000 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <4401AB7E.7070003@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/25/2006 10:31 PM, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Leon Stringer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to install FC5t3 on another computer, but I can't burn the >> ISOs. >> >> I've tried burning from GNOME and using cdrecord, e.g. >> >> cdrecord dev=/dev/hda -eject -v -dao FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso >> >> (I ran this as root as it complained about setpriority when I didn't). >> >> But on the resulting CDs some files can be copied but other's result in >> I/O errors. Last time I posted about verifying CDs I was told that this >> process was unreliable. >> >> So we have unreliable CD burning and no reliable way to verify them. > > Yes, rather irritating. ;) > >> And I have a half-installed computer. >> >> Does anyone have any tips for successful burning of ISOs? (I'm burning >> from an up-to-date FC5 test installation). > > I'll get burned at the stake for this answer, but in lieu of additional > conditions being specified which limit the number of available responses > to a specific range.... > > Use Nero Burning ROM in Windows XP. It more or less "just works" every > time. And where do I get this stuff? Anybody giving free Windows XP out there? ;-) Sorry to hear about your problems. I've had completetly opposite experiences to Mike -- lots of problem when burning on Windows (well, truth is it was some 5 years back I run any Windows on my boxes :) and only when I eventually switched completely to Linux I had 100% reliable burning. The only failures were to due to bad media or myself really loading up the machine with very CPU+HD+network intensive tasks. And that my experience since Mandrake 6 through RH 7.3, RH 9 and FC3 on SCSI Teac 4x recorder and later on Pioneer 105 DVD recorder. I felt I neede to add my comment to this rather depressing thread. Hope your problems will get fixed, guys! Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From pb at partha.com Sun Feb 26 13:24:51 2006 From: pb at partha.com (Partha Bagchi) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:24:51 -0500 Subject: firefox i386 RPM should be included on x86_64 iso In-Reply-To: <44017EE7.9020906@feuerpokemon.de> References: <200602251952.27138.prigault@oricom.ca> <44012606.8080308@partha.com> <44017EE7.9020906@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <4401AC23.1020909@partha.com> dragoran wrote: > Partha Bagchi wrote: > >> Philippe Rigault wrote: >> >>> Due to the lack of a 64-bit flash plugin, the only way to browse >>> flash-enabled sites currently is through the 32-bit version of >>> firefox (unless there is a way to use the 32-bit plugin with >>> firefox.x86_64, which I think is not possible). >>> >>> Therefore, I consider the 32-bit version firefox a must have on the >>> x86_64 iso files (there is no firefox i386.rpm in the DVD of >>> FC5test3). >>> >>> I am even recommending the 32-bit version to be the default on >>> x86_64 until a proper alternative (free flash plugin or 64-bit >>> version distributed by Macromedia) exists. >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> >> >> Take a look at this: http://www.gibix.net/projects/nspluginwrapper/ >> >> I am using it successfully in most cases with 64bit firefox. >> > nice project but not free (else it would be good to have it in extras) > you said you are using it in most cases... > in which cases does it fail? (will test it now using mozilla which is > still x86_64 here) > The author has promised to release the source code as you see on that page. :) Take a look at www.zillow.com. It will sometime freeze and firefox will crash. Also, you may see the following in your log: npviewer.bin[3416]: segfault at 0000000000000000 rip 00000000f785f3cf rsp 00000000f706dba8 error 4 From pb at partha.com Sun Feb 26 13:31:30 2006 From: pb at partha.com (Partha Bagchi) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:31:30 -0500 Subject: firefox i386 RPM should be included on x86_64 iso In-Reply-To: <440180E0.9010804@feuerpokemon.de> References: <200602251952.27138.prigault@oricom.ca> <44012606.8080308@partha.com> <44017EE7.9020906@feuerpokemon.de> <440180E0.9010804@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <4401ADB2.2000501@partha.com> dragoran wrote: > dragoran wrote: > >> Partha Bagchi wrote: >> >>> Philippe Rigault wrote: >>> >>>> Due to the lack of a 64-bit flash plugin, the only way to browse >>>> flash-enabled sites currently is through the 32-bit version of >>>> firefox (unless there is a way to use the 32-bit plugin with >>>> firefox.x86_64, which I think is not possible). >>>> >>>> Therefore, I consider the 32-bit version firefox a must have on the >>>> x86_64 iso files (there is no firefox i386.rpm in the DVD of >>>> FC5test3). >>>> >>>> I am even recommending the 32-bit version to be the default on >>>> x86_64 until a proper alternative (free flash plugin or 64-bit >>>> version distributed by Macromedia) exists. >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Take a look at this: http://www.gibix.net/projects/nspluginwrapper/ >>> >>> I am using it successfully in most cases with 64bit firefox. >>> >> nice project but not free (else it would be good to have it in extras) >> you said you are using it in most cases... >> in which cases does it fail? (will test it now using mozilla which is >> still x86_64 here) >> > java does not work :( > I am using Blackdown java plugin for AMD64 for that :) ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/JDK-1.4.2/amd64/fcs From pb at partha.com Sun Feb 26 13:36:37 2006 From: pb at partha.com (Partha Bagchi) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:36:37 -0500 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <4401AB7E.7070003@yahoo.co.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> <4401AB7E.7070003@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <4401AEE5.6090209@partha.com> Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 02/25/2006 10:31 PM, Mike A. Harris wrote: >> Leon Stringer wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm trying to install FC5t3 on another computer, but I can't burn the >>> ISOs. >>> >>> I've tried burning from GNOME and using cdrecord, e.g. >>> >>> cdrecord dev=/dev/hda -eject -v -dao FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso >>> >>> (I ran this as root as it complained about setpriority when I didn't). >>> >>> But on the resulting CDs some files can be copied but other's result in >>> I/O errors. Last time I posted about verifying CDs I was told that this >>> process was unreliable. >>> >>> So we have unreliable CD burning and no reliable way to verify them. >> >> Yes, rather irritating. ;) >> >>> And I have a half-installed computer. >>> >>> Does anyone have any tips for successful burning of ISOs? (I'm burning >>> from an up-to-date FC5 test installation). >> >> I'll get burned at the stake for this answer, but in lieu of additional >> conditions being specified which limit the number of available responses >> to a specific range.... >> >> Use Nero Burning ROM in Windows XP. It more or less "just works" every >> time. > > And where do I get this stuff? Anybody giving free Windows XP out > there? ;-) > > Sorry to hear about your problems. I've had completetly opposite > experiences to Mike -- lots of problem when burning on Windows (well, > truth is it was some 5 years back I run any Windows on my boxes :) and > only when I eventually switched completely to Linux I had 100% > reliable burning. The only failures were to due to bad media or myself > really loading up the machine with very CPU+HD+network intensive > tasks. And that my experience since Mandrake 6 through RH 7.3, RH 9 > and FC3 on SCSI Teac 4x recorder and later on Pioneer 105 DVD recorder. > > I felt I neede to add my comment to this rather depressing thread. > Hope your problems will get fixed, guys! > > Dariusz > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! > Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with > voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > Try using gnomebaker. Seems to work great. From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Sun Feb 26 13:46:42 2006 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:46:42 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <1140950720.2934.15.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060226093634.GA10063@br-online.de> <1140950720.2934.15.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <20060226134642.GA11827@br-online.de> Arjan van de Ven wrote: > you can improve the quality of this bugreport by > 1) installing the respective -debuginfo rpms (in this case of Xair and > the driver) > 2) running the app from inside gdb > and then when the crash hits, > 3) type "bt" > > that gives a similar backtrace, but with a LOT more useful information > (such as function names and filenames + line numbers) for the developers > to figure this one out... I don't seem to be able to do that (following "the book" at ). When attaching to a running Xair from a remote machine, I cannot reproduce the bug, as it happens at startup. Running "gdb /usr/bin/Xair" from a remote machine doesn't seem to trigger the bug. Starting Xair in gdb from the local machine inhibits me from getting back to gdb. And using a script as described in gives me some output, but none concerning the error. And as the error doesn't make Xair dump core either, I have no core file which I can run gdb against. Any hints? I'd really like to help, as I really like to see some eye candy :) Ralph -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 26 14:38:37 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:38:37 +0000 Subject: FC5T3: Why only so few screensavers available to choose in in KDE? In-Reply-To: <44009A63.5000201@FamilleCollet.com> References: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> <200602251133.24284.fox3ec208@wideopenwest.com> <44009A63.5000201@FamilleCollet.com> Message-ID: <4401BD6D.5090502@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/25/2006 05:56 PM, Remi Collet wrote: > Terry Polzin a ?crit : >> On Saturday February 25 2006 08:08, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> For some reason I can see only very limited number of screensavers (21 >>> in total) in KDE Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Screen Saver >>> panel. I know there are plenty more installed since choosing "Random" >>> option will result in screensaver I cannot choose manually. Worse yet, >>> half of the available ones are OpenGL (10) that do not seem to work on >>> my hardware :( I have a full list on FC3 box but not on FC5t3... >>> >>> Is this supoosed to be this way? Why? >>> >> In FC4 there was a separate screen sever package (xscreensaver-base) >> that has to be installed manually >> > There are 3 additionals RPM available > xscreensaver-extras-4.24-1.1 > xscreensaver-gl-extras-4.24-1.1 > xscreensaver-base-4.24-1.1 xscreensaver-base package helped a lot, thanks! Question still remains: why not all installed (in default install) screensavers are listed in Control Center? Is this a bug? Regards, Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos ? NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Sun Feb 26 14:59:30 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:59:30 -0500 Subject: FC5T3: Why only so few screensavers available to choose in in KDE? In-Reply-To: <4401BD6D.5090502@yahoo.co.uk> References: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> <200602251133.24284.fox3ec208@wideopenwest.com> <44009A63.5000201@FamilleCollet.com> <4401BD6D.5090502@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <4401C252.1000604@insight.rr.com> Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 02/25/2006 05:56 PM, Remi Collet wrote: >> Terry Polzin a ?crit : >> There are 3 additionals RPM available >> xscreensaver-extras-4.24-1.1 >> xscreensaver-gl-extras-4.24-1.1 >> xscreensaver-base-4.24-1.1 > > xscreensaver-base package helped a lot, thanks! > > Question still remains: why not all installed (in default install) > screensavers are listed in Control Center? > > Is this a bug? It is a good candidate for a bug report. It impedes usability, functionality and product satisfaction. If this is by design or accidental, it is a bug candidate. Jim > > Regards, > Dariusz > From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Sun Feb 26 15:24:27 2006 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:24:27 -0700 Subject: WiFi card detected as Ethernet In-Reply-To: <1140957404.4128.101.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140957404.4128.101.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <20060226152427.GA2639@charlescurley.com> On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 12:36:44PM +0000, Leon Stringer wrote: > Hi, > > My WiFi card is listed as an Ethernet card in system-config-network. > Consequently I can't configure the WEP key and other wireless settings. > > So I have two questions: > > - What can I do to get it to be listed as a WiFi card or will I have to > hack the scripts manually? Install & run kwifimanager. That will get you started. 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URL: From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Sun Feb 26 15:49:09 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:49:09 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <20060226134642.GA11827@br-online.de> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060226093634.GA10063@br-online.de> <1140950720.2934.15.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060226134642.GA11827@br-online.de> Message-ID: <1140968949.2934.34.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 14:46 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > you can improve the quality of this bugreport by > > 1) installing the respective -debuginfo rpms (in this case of Xair and > > the driver) > > 2) running the app from inside gdb > > and then when the crash hits, > > 3) type "bt" > > > > that gives a similar backtrace, but with a LOT more useful information > > (such as function names and filenames + line numbers) for the developers > > to figure this one out... > > I don't seem to be able to do that (following "the book" at > ). > > When attaching to a running Xair from a remote machine, I cannot > reproduce the bug, as it happens at startup. Running "gdb /usr/bin/Xair" > from a remote machine doesn't seem to trigger the bug. > > Starting Xair in gdb from the local machine inhibits me from getting > back to gdb. And using a script as described in > gives me some output, but none concerning the error. > > And as the error doesn't make Xair dump core either, I have no core file > which I can run gdb against. if Xair is setuid, set /proc/sys/fs/suid_dumpable variable to 1 (and make sure the ulimit for core dumping isn't 0) From ivg2 at cornell.edu Sun Feb 26 15:52:30 2006 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:52:30 -0500 Subject: 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 memory leak? In-Reply-To: <200602262200.49225.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200602262200.49225.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <4401CEBE.5090605@cornell.edu> > Is there a known kernel memory leak in 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5? > Is this the stock kernel? Does it have any 3rd party modules installed? I ask, because I ran into a memory leak with the 1955 LSPP kernel, with madwifi and nvidia installed. Steve Grubb later said he's found some sort of leak, and it will be fixed. I am now running stock 1977 kernel, will wait and see if it leaks. From netwiz at crc.id.au Sun Feb 26 15:56:04 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 02:56:04 +1100 (EST) Subject: Errors installing kernel-2.6.15-1.1977 via yum. Message-ID: <39422.203.56.246.92.1140969364.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> When installing the latest kernel via yum (kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5) I get the following: Installing: kernel ##################### [ 19/104] *** glibc detected *** /sbin/grubby: double free or corruption (out): 0xbfd93560 *** ======= Backtrace: ========= /lib/libc.so.6[0xc84de8] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x79)[0xc882ed] /sbin/grubby[0x804fd12] /sbin/grubby[0x804fe73] /sbin/grubby[0x8050c9e] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc)[0xc367a4] /sbin/grubby[0x804a001] ======= Memory map: ======== 002e7000-002e8000 r-xp 002e7000 00:00 0 [vdso] 00c04000-00c1d000 r-xp 00000000 03:01 852043 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so 00c1d000-00c1e000 r-xp 00018000 03:01 852043 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so 00c1e000-00c1f000 rwxp 00019000 03:01 852043 /lib/ld-2.3.90.so 00c21000-00d44000 r-xp 00000000 03:01 852045 /lib/libc-2.3.90.so 00d44000-00d47000 r-xp 00122000 03:01 852045 /lib/libc-2.3.90.so 00d47000-00d48000 rwxp 00125000 03:01 852045 /lib/libc-2.3.90.so 00d48000-00d4b000 rwxp 00d48000 00:00 0 026a1000-026ac000 r-xp 00000000 03:01 852152 /lib/libgcc_s-4.1.0-20060219.so.1 026ac000-026ad000 rwxp 0000a000 03:01 852152 /lib/libgcc_s-4.1.0-20060219.so.1 08048000-08089000 r-xp 00000000 03:01 1146917 /sbin/grubby 08089000-0808c000 rw-p 00041000 03:01 1146917 /sbin/grubby 0808c000-08094000 rw-p 0808c000 00:00 0 092fe000-0931f000 rw-p 092fe000 00:00 0 [heap] b7e00000-b7e21000 rw-p b7e00000 00:00 0 b7e21000-b7f00000 ---p b7e21000 00:00 0 b7f86000-b7f87000 rw-p b7f86000 00:00 0 b7f96000-b7f97000 rw-p b7f96000 00:00 0 bfd81000-bfd97000 rw-p bfd81000 00:00 0 [stack] /sbin/new-kernel-pkg: line 89: 3211 Aborted /sbin/grubby --add-kernel=$bootPrefix/$kernelName -$version $INITRD --copy-default $makedefault --title "$title" ${mbkernel:+--add-multiboot="$mbkernel"} ${mbar gs:+--mbargs="$mbargs"} --args="root=$rootdevice $kernargs" --remove-kernel="TITLE=$title" Did anyone else see this? -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sun Feb 26 15:55:15 2006 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:55:15 +0000 Subject: WiFi card detected as Ethernet In-Reply-To: References: <1140957404.4128.101.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <1140969315.2428.2.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 09:48 -0600, Caerie Houchins wrote: > I have the intel card wireless card too. It will show up as a wired > ethernet card untill you install the ipw2100 firmware. Some repos > have the RPM but its probably legally questionable and not included in > the core distro. Ran accross this on my Dell 6000 laptop. Yes that was the problem. I downloaded the firmware from http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/firmware.php (v0.55-current firmware) and copied ipw2100-1.3.fw into /lib/firmware. Presumably this *is* a legal issue but shouldn't it be in the release notes? From ivg2 at cornell.edu Sun Feb 26 15:56:37 2006 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:56:37 -0500 Subject: Errors installing kernel-2.6.15-1.1977 via yum. In-Reply-To: <39422.203.56.246.92.1140969364.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <39422.203.56.246.92.1140969364.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <4401CFB5.90209@cornell.edu> > Did anyone else see this? > Yes, I see the exact same thing. The initrd is properly created, then grubby dies. This is on x86_64. From mike at miketc.com Sun Feb 26 16:05:22 2006 From: mike at miketc.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:05:22 -0600 Subject: Errors installing kernel-2.6.15-1.1977 via yum. In-Reply-To: <4401CFB5.90209@cornell.edu> References: <39422.203.56.246.92.1140969364.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <4401CFB5.90209@cornell.edu> Message-ID: <1140969922.1983.4.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 10:56 -0500, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > Did anyone else see this? > > > Yes, I see the exact same thing. > The initrd is properly created, then grubby dies. > This is on x86_64. Downgrade mkinitrd to the one from FC5T3 (least that is next one down that I can find) until a fix is out. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt, then it's hilarious!" From fctesting at fletchersweb.net Sun Feb 26 16:07:59 2006 From: fctesting at fletchersweb.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:07:59 +0000 Subject: Scanning with Epson Message-ID: <200602261607.59947.fctesting@fletchersweb.net> Just tried plugging my scanner into the fc5t3 machine. Can't get it to do a thing. The scanner is an Epson Perfection 2450 Photo, connected to USB. There is no scanner entry in the graphics menu, and when I run command xsane nothing happens. I also installed iscan, which says "Could not send command to scanner. Check the scanner's status" The scanner appears in /dev/ as scanner-usbdev1.x Any ideas for me to try? Dave Fletcher -- Registered Linux user number 393408 From ben.steeves at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 16:08:35 2006 From: ben.steeves at gmail.com (Ben Steeves) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:08:35 -0400 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <7ebb24d10602260808n29506509h74d81b621f0bbb@mail.gmail.com> On 2/25/06, Leon Stringer wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install FC5t3 on another computer, but I can't burn the > ISOs. > > I've tried burning from GNOME and using cdrecord, e.g. > > cdrecord dev=/dev/hda -eject -v -dao FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso Try using -pad. I haven't burned a coaster in years (on probably four or five burners). DVDs are sadly another matter, but even then my failure rate has been about 5-8%, not too shabby really, and that was on an older DVD burner. I also use the ATA: drive specification and burnfree (driverops=burnfree) if your drive supports it. I always use cdrecord at the command line (I hate the idea of having to load in most of KDE just to run k3b). -- _ Ben Steeves bcs at metacon.ca ( ) The ASCII ribbon campaign ben.steeves at unb.ca X against HTML e-mail GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 / \ http://www.metacon.ca/ascii Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From chrisw01 at comcast.net Sun Feb 26 16:04:48 2006 From: chrisw01 at comcast.net (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:04:48 -0700 Subject: WiFi card detected as Ethernet In-Reply-To: References: <1140957404.4128.101.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <1140969888.4408.26.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 09:48 -0600, Caerie Houchins wrote: > I have the intel card wireless card too. It will show up as a wired > ethernet card untill you install the ipw2100 firmware. Some repos > have the RPM but its probably legally questionable and not included in > the core distro. Ran accross this on my Dell 6000 laptop. > > Caerie > > On 2/26/06, Leon Stringer wrote: > So I have two questions: > > - What can I do to get it to be listed as a WiFi card > or will I have to > hack the scripts manually? > > - Is this a known bug? > > The card is listed as "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 > 3B Mini I have a student who is having similar issues, except I can't seem to get the card recognized at all. He has a Gateway laptop with an Intel Calexico series WiFi card in it. Documentation I found on it says the Calexico card uses the ipw2100 or possibly ipw2200 drivers. I installed the firmware for these from Livna, but couldn't find kernel module drivers for it. ATRPMs has kernel drivers, but they seem to require Axel's custom kernels. Since I'd already configured Livna for other things, I didn't want to do too much mixing of 3rd party repos - it would only confuse a student who is clearly impressed with Fedora, but still very much in learning mode. Ideas? I'm still scratching my head as to why the card doesn't show up as anything recognizable, and why Livna has firmware RPMs but no kernel modules. Cheers, Chris -- ====================== "Never murder a man when he's busy committing suicide." -- Woodrow Wilson From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 26 16:24:18 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:24:18 +0000 Subject: FC5T3: Why only so few screensavers available to choose in in KDE? In-Reply-To: <4401C252.1000604@insight.rr.com> References: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> <200602251133.24284.fox3ec208@wideopenwest.com> <44009A63.5000201@FamilleCollet.com> <4401BD6D.5090502@yahoo.co.uk> <4401C252.1000604@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <4401D632.3040205@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/26/2006 02:59 PM, Jim Cornette wrote: > Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> On 02/25/2006 05:56 PM, Remi Collet wrote: >>> Terry Polzin a ?crit : > >>> There are 3 additionals RPM available >>> xscreensaver-extras-4.24-1.1 >>> xscreensaver-gl-extras-4.24-1.1 >>> xscreensaver-base-4.24-1.1 >> >> xscreensaver-base package helped a lot, thanks! >> >> Question still remains: why not all installed (in default install) >> screensavers are listed in Control Center? >> >> Is this a bug? > > It is a good candidate for a bug report. It impedes usability, > functionality and product satisfaction. > If this is by design or accidental, it is a bug candidate. Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183125 Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From dcbw at redhat.com Sun Feb 26 16:23:03 2006 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:23:03 -0500 Subject: WiFi card detected as Ethernet In-Reply-To: <1140969888.4408.26.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local> References: <1140957404.4128.101.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <1140969888.4408.26.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local> Message-ID: <1140970983.13642.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 09:04 -0700, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > I have a student who is having similar issues, except I can't seem to > get the card recognized at all. He has a Gateway laptop with an Intel > Calexico series WiFi card in it. > > Documentation I found on it says the Calexico card uses the ipw2100 or > possibly ipw2200 drivers. I installed the firmware for these from Livna, > but couldn't find kernel module drivers for it. ATRPMs has kernel > drivers, but they seem to require Axel's custom kernels. Since I'd > already configured Livna for other things, I didn't want to do too much > mixing of 3rd party repos - it would only confuse a student who is > clearly impressed with Fedora, but still very much in learning mode. > > Ideas? I'm still scratching my head as to why the card doesn't show up > as anything recognizable, and why Livna has firmware RPMs but no kernel > modules. What are the PCI IDs of the card? You can probably get them by: lspci | grep Intel and look for the PRO/Wireless stuff. However, drivers for the ipw2100 and ipw2200 are already built into the Fedora Core kernels, so you shouldn't need to get them from anywhere. You only need firmware (which should placed in /lib/firmware) to get them working. Dan From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 26 16:46:30 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:46:30 +0000 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <7ebb24d10602260808n29506509h74d81b621f0bbb@mail.gmail.com> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <7ebb24d10602260808n29506509h74d81b621f0bbb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4401DB66.1050500@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/26/2006 04:08 PM, Ben Steeves wrote: > On 2/25/06, Leon Stringer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to install FC5t3 on another computer, but I can't burn the >> ISOs. >> >> I've tried burning from GNOME and using cdrecord, e.g. >> >> cdrecord dev=/dev/hda -eject -v -dao FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso > > Try using -pad. I haven't burned a coaster in years (on probably four > or five burners). DVDs are sadly another matter, but even then my > failure rate has been about 5-8%, not too shabby really, and that was > on an older DVD burner. I've had mixed results with DVD burning due to questionable media quality. The moment I switched to Taiyo Yuden-based Verbatims I have 100% success rate! Make sure you buy good quality media (e.g. not all Verbatims are good either!) -- see "Blank Media & Quality FAQ" http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm You can also look at "Where to buy good media" http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/buyerguides/buymedia.htm Disclaimer: I have no connection to either this website nor am I selling any media. I'm just a user who found those guides useful. Regards, Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos ? NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From paul at permanentmail.com Sun Feb 26 13:07:30 2006 From: paul at permanentmail.com (Paul Dickson) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 06:07:30 -0700 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <20060226054930.0ecf89ae.paul@permanentmail.com> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <20060226054930.0ecf89ae.paul@permanentmail.com> Message-ID: <20060226060730.8954c470.paul@permanentmail.com> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:49:30 -0700, Paul Dickson wrote: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:21:17 +0000, Leon Stringer wrote: > > > I'm trying to install FC5t3 on another computer, but I can't burn the > > ISOs. > > > > I've tried burning from GNOME and using cdrecord, e.g. > > > > cdrecord dev=/dev/hda -eject -v -dao FC-5-Test3-i386-disc1.iso > > I just burned a CD with: > > cdrecord mycd.iso > > It chose TAO rather than DAO, and 4x because it's a CD-RW I just blanked > with "cdrecord blank=fast". The CD mounts OK if I mount as root, > otherwise it tell me "You are not privileged to mount the volume > 'volume-name'." But it tells me this for other CDs too. I forgot to mention, I'm writing the CD as root (an old habit for this specific task). -Paul From paul at permanentmail.com Sun Feb 26 12:59:27 2006 From: paul at permanentmail.com (Paul Dickson) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:59:27 -0700 Subject: Not privileged to mount CDs Message-ID: <20060226055927.76080dcf.paul@permanentmail.com> When I place a non-blank CD in my CDROM drive, I get the message "You are not privileged to mount the volume ''." What do I need to do to be privileged? This might be new as google doesn't find anything immediately relevant. -Paul From paul at permanentmail.com Sun Feb 26 13:04:29 2006 From: paul at permanentmail.com (Paul Dickson) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 06:04:29 -0700 Subject: Copy files to NFS directory loose time stamps Message-ID: <20060226060429.4472a722.paul@permanentmail.com> If I do a "cp -a" to a NFS volume, the resulting files have the current time stamp. Do I need to change my mount options or is this a kernel bug? Current options in fstab: defaults,owner,rw,user,auto,hard,intr,exec -Paul From cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk Sun Feb 26 17:06:37 2006 From: cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk (Anne Wilson) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:06:37 +0000 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <4400F674.4010707@cogeco.ca> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <200602251545.27681.nman64@n-man.com> <4400F674.4010707@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <200602261706.42740.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> On Sunday 26 February 2006 00:29, Fulko Hew wrote: > Patrick Barnes wrote: > >I'm surprised that nobody on this thread has mentioned the two most > > valuable tips when having problems with CD-burning quality: > > > > * Burn at low speeds. 8x is usually good, 4x is failsafe. > > I've heard from the experts that burning at a slower speed is not > neccessarily going to make the burn more likely to succeed. As a > matter of fact, some media may actually be worse at slower than rated > speed. > Quoting from the link below: " The Media ID is the location of information about the disc. Much like the disc maker's name in the ID code, the write speed can be faked. The Write Strategy is the maximum speed the disc was manufactured to use. Burning faster will often lead to errors. Unfortunately, most DVD recording drives read the Media ID for determining write speed allowed by the burning software. Always check the WRITE STRATEGY to ensure the Media ID is not forged or read incorrectly by the firmware. Both official and hacked firmwares are known to allow improper burning speeds on certain discs. Many 3RD CLASS and 4TH CLASS quality discs are guilty of placing media ID speeds on discs with slower write strategies." That probably explains why my strategy of routinely downgrading burn speeds has paid off. > Having said that... I've had a bit of better success when burning at > slower than rated speeds. > > > * Get quality media. Nothing results in more coasters than poor-quality > >media. > As mentioned by Dariusz J. Garbowski there is very useful information on http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm Anne -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I see the error flashing by, but Xair starts up "normally". Yes, 'Option "NoTrapSignals" "1"' is set in the ServerFlags section. Regards, Ralph -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stokerr at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 17:19:10 2006 From: stokerr at gmail.com (stokerr at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:19:10 +0100 Subject: Problem with compile drivers In-Reply-To: <1140970983.13642.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1140969888.4408.26.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local> <1140970983.13642.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20060226180139.877C.STOKERR@gmail.com> I am a newbie in linux How to install sources/headers to compile module drivers ? I tried to install kernel-devel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5.686.rpm kernel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5..src.rpm kernel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5.i686.rpm get this error [root at localhost madwifi-cvs-20051025]# make KERNELPATH=/usr/src/linux-2.6.15.i686 Checking if all requirements are met... ok. mkdir -p ./symbols for i in ./ath_hal ath_rate/onoe ./net80211 ./ath; do \ make -C $i || exit 1; \ done make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/madwifi-cvs-20051025/ath_hal' make -C /usr/src/linux-2.6.15.i686 SUBDIRS=/usr/src/madwifi-cvs-20051025/ath_hal MODVERDIR=/usr/src/madwifi-cvs-20051025/ath_hal/../symbols modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.15.i686' WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-2.6.15.i686/Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions. CC [M] /usr/src/madwifi-cvs-20051025/ath_hal/ah_osdep.o /bin/sh: scripts/genksyms/genksyms: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [/usr/src/madwifi-cvs-20051025/ath_hal/ah_osdep.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [_module_/usr/src/madwifi-cvs-20051025/ath_hal] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.15.i686' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/madwifi-cvs-20051025/ath_hal' make: *** [all] Error 1 [root at localhost madwifi-cvs-20051025]# Help! Thanks From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 26 17:21:42 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:21:42 +0000 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed Message-ID: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> Hi, I installed FC5T3 x86_64 via network using only first isntall CD. I ended up with some packages sort-of duplicated, e.g. $ rpm -qa |grep kde |sort kdeaddons-3.5.1-1.2 kdeadmin-3.5.1-1.2 kdeartwork-3.5.1-1.2 kdebase-3.5.1-2.2 *1 kdebase-3.5.1-2.2 *1 kdebase-devel-3.5.1-2.2 kdebindings-3.5.1-1.2 kdegames-3.5.1-1.2 kdegraphics-3.5.1-2.1 kdegraphics-devel-3.5.1-2.1 kdelibs-3.5.1-2.2 *2 kdelibs-3.5.1-2.2 *2 kdelibs-devel-3.5.1-2.2 kdemultimedia-3.5.1-1.2 *3 kdemultimedia-3.5.1-1.2 *3 kdenetwork-3.5.1-1.2 kdenetwork-devel-3.5.1-1.2 kdepim-3.5.1-1.2 kdepim-devel-3.5.1-1.2 kdesdk-3.5.1-1.2 kdeutils-3.5.1-1.2 kdeutils-devel-3.5.1-1.2 kdevelop-3.3.1-1.2 lockdev-1.0.1-9.2.1 lockdev-devel-1.0.1-9.2.1 unixODBC-kde-2.2.11-6.2.1 *4 unixODBC-kde-2.2.11-6.2.1 *4 They are not exactly the same, even though versions seem to indicate they are -- see Build Host, Build Date, Size (!), Signature: $ rpm -qi kdebase Name : kdebase Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 3.5.1 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. Release : 2.2 Build Date: Sun 12 Feb 2006 12:12:12 AM GMT Install Date: Wed 22 Feb 2006 02:06:52 AM GMT Build Host: ls20-bc1-14.build.redhat.com Group : User Interface/Desktops Source RPM: kdebase-3.5.1-2.2.src.rpm Size : 60140740 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue 14 Feb 2006 06:46:47 PM GMT, Key ID da84cbd430c9ecf8 Packager : Red Hat, Inc. URL : http://www.kde.org Summary : K Desktop Environment - core files Description : Core applications for the K Desktop Environment. Included are: kdm (replacement for xdm), kwin (window manager), konqueror (filemanager, web browser, ftp client, ...), konsole (xterm replacement), kpanel (application starter and desktop pager), kaudio (audio server), kdehelp (viewer for kde help files, info and man pages), kthememgr (system for managing alternate theme packages) plus other KDE components (kcheckpass, kikbd, kscreensaver, kcontrol, kfind, kfontmanager, kmenuedit). Name : kdebase Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 3.5.1 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. Release : 2.2 Build Date: Sun 12 Feb 2006 12:52:05 AM GMT Install Date: Wed 22 Feb 2006 02:47:43 AM GMT Build Host: hs20-bc1-1.build.redhat.com Group : User Interface/Desktops Source RPM: kdebase-3.5.1-2.2.src.rpm Size : 55457345 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue 14 Feb 2006 06:45:44 PM GMT, Key ID da84cbd430c9ecf8 Packager : Red Hat, Inc. URL : http://www.kde.org Summary : K Desktop Environment - core files Description : Core applications for the K Desktop Environment. Included are: kdm (replacement for xdm), kwin (window manager), konqueror (filemanager, web browser, ftp client, ...), konsole (xterm replacement), kpanel (application starter and desktop pager), kaudio (audio server), kdehelp (viewer for kde help files, info and man pages), kthememgr (system for managing alternate theme packages) plus other KDE components (kcheckpass, kikbd, kscreensaver, kcontrol, kfind, kfontmanager, kmenuedit). Anyone else seeing this? Regards, Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 26 17:26:22 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:26:22 +0000 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <4401E4BE.4090103@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/26/2006 05:21 PM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > Hi, > > I installed FC5T3 x86_64 via network using only first isntall CD. > I ended up with some packages sort-of duplicated, e.g. > > $ rpm -qa |grep kde |sort > kdeaddons-3.5.1-1.2 > kdeadmin-3.5.1-1.2 > kdeartwork-3.5.1-1.2 > kdebase-3.5.1-2.2 *1 > kdebase-3.5.1-2.2 *1 [...] Ok, I figured that one package is 64-bit build and the other 32-bit. I suppose it's intentional? Regards, Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ NEW Yahoo! Cars - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online! http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/ From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Sun Feb 26 17:28:11 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:28:11 -0500 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <4401E4BE.4090103@yahoo.co.uk> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> <4401E4BE.4090103@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <1140974891.1723.10.camel@cutter> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 17:26 +0000, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 02/26/2006 05:21 PM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I installed FC5T3 x86_64 via network using only first isntall CD. > > I ended up with some packages sort-of duplicated, e.g. > > > > $ rpm -qa |grep kde |sort > > kdeaddons-3.5.1-1.2 > > kdeadmin-3.5.1-1.2 > > kdeartwork-3.5.1-1.2 > > kdebase-3.5.1-2.2 *1 > > kdebase-3.5.1-2.2 *1 > > [...] > > Ok, I figured that one package is 64-bit build and the other 32-bit. I > suppose it's intentional? yes and you'll find if you run: yum list installed that it becomes a lot more apparent. -sv From dennis at ausil.us Sun Feb 26 17:32:52 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:32:52 -0600 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <200602261133.05636.dennis@ausil.us> Once upon a time Sunday 26 February 2006 11:21 am, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > Hi, > > I installed FC5T3 x86_64 via network using only first isntall CD. > I ended up with some packages sort-of duplicated, e.g. > try rpm -qa --queryformat "%{name}-%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}\n" |grep kde|sort you will see that they are the i386 version and the x86_64 this is normal -- Dennis Gilmore, RHCE http://www.ausil.us Proud Australian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 26 17:34:31 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:34:31 +0000 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <1140974891.1723.10.camel@cutter> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> <4401E4BE.4090103@yahoo.co.uk> <1140974891.1723.10.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <4401E6A7.3020603@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/26/2006 05:28 PM, seth vidal wrote: > On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 17:26 +0000, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> On 02/26/2006 05:21 PM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I installed FC5T3 x86_64 via network using only first isntall CD. >>> I ended up with some packages sort-of duplicated, e.g. >>> >>> $ rpm -qa |grep kde |sort >>> kdeaddons-3.5.1-1.2 >>> kdeadmin-3.5.1-1.2 >>> kdeartwork-3.5.1-1.2 >>> kdebase-3.5.1-2.2 *1 >>> kdebase-3.5.1-2.2 *1 >> [...] >> >> Ok, I figured that one package is 64-bit build and the other 32-bit. I >> suppose it's intentional? > > yes and you'll find if you run: > > yum list installed > > that it becomes a lot more apparent. That's a nice feature! Thanks, Seth. It's more clear now. Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From gsimpson at mountaincable.net Sun Feb 26 16:50:00 2006 From: gsimpson at mountaincable.net (glenn) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:50:00 -0500 Subject: Scanning with Epson In-Reply-To: <200602261607.59947.fctesting@fletchersweb.net> References: <200602261607.59947.fctesting@fletchersweb.net> Message-ID: <4401DC38.1020200@mountaincable.net> David Fletcher wrote: > Just tried plugging my scanner into the fc5t3 machine. Can't get it to do a > thing. > > The scanner is an Epson Perfection 2450 Photo, connected to USB. > > There is no scanner entry in the graphics menu, and when I run command xsane > nothing happens. > > I also installed iscan, which says "Could not send command to scanner. Check > the scanner's status" > > The scanner appears in /dev/ as scanner-usbdev1.x > > Any ideas for me to try? > > I also have an Epson 2450 scanner and running it on FC5T3. I use the driver that I was using under FC4 (esfw41.bin is from a windoze distro). In my case I happen to load esfw4esfw41.bin in file in my /root/downloads directory, so I made an edit to /etc/sane.d/snapscan.conf to provide a link to the driver firmware /root/downloads/esfw41.bin Hope this gets you going. -- Glenn Simpson VE3DSP Hamilton, Ont From gstool at earthlink.net Sun Feb 26 17:49:28 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:49:28 -0600 Subject: Scanning with Epson In-Reply-To: <200602261607.59947.fctesting@fletchersweb.net> References: <200602261607.59947.fctesting@fletchersweb.net> Message-ID: <1140976168.27362.6.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 16:07 +0000, David Fletcher wrote: > Just tried plugging my scanner into the fc5t3 machine. Can't get it to do a > thing. > > The scanner is an Epson Perfection 2450 Photo, connected to USB. > > There is no scanner entry in the graphics menu, and when I run command xsane > nothing happens. > > I also installed iscan, which says "Could not send command to scanner. Check > the scanner's status" > > The scanner appears in /dev/ as scanner-usbdev1.x > > Any ideas for me to try? You can try as root: [root at fc5t3 ~]# sane-find-scanner # sane-find-scanner will now attempt to detect your scanner. If the # result is different from what you expected, first make sure your # scanner is powered up and properly connected to your computer. # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make sure that # you have loaded a kernel SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter. found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0119 [EPSON Scanner]) at libusb:007:002 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. # Not checking for parallel port scanners. # Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary ports # can't be detected by this program. If it gives you the usb device numbers for your system as above, then [root at fc5t3 ~]# ls -l /proc/bus/usb/007/002 -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 50 Feb 25 09:04 /proc/bus/usb/007/002 where you replace the /007/002 with the numbers sane-find-scanner provided. If the permissions are not as above, then [root at fc5t3 ~]# chmod a+w /proc/bus/usb/007/002 for your particular device numbers. If you are lucky, the scanner will now work. If it doesn't, please file a bug report. You can see my bug report for my Epson Perfecition 4490 Photo scanner at bugzilla #182210. My problem may be because this is a newly supported scanner, but if you find the same thing happening, the bug will get fixed faster if you add your input or file an additional report. Thanks. Good Luck. Gerry From skunkworx at verizon.net Sun Feb 26 17:52:46 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:52:46 -0800 Subject: fc5t3 gnome power manager crash during yum update Message-ID: <4401EAEE.6060607@verizon.net> While yum updating fc5t3 I got the kernel grubby crash (known) and also a popup that the gnome power manager crashed unexpectedly. When I clicked "inform developers" in the gui, it told me the lists were out of date and offered to update them. After updating the lists, another gui came up prompting me to select the component that crashed. gnome power manager was not in the list. [this is from memory, none of it is on my screen now]. -- SW From talbotscott at cox.net Sun Feb 26 17:53:32 2006 From: talbotscott at cox.net (oldman) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:53:32 -0800 Subject: Copy files to NFS directory loose time stamps In-Reply-To: <20060226060429.4472a722.paul@permanentmail.com> References: <20060226060429.4472a722.paul@permanentmail.com> Message-ID: <4401EB1C.1050905@cox.net> Paul Dickson wrote: >If I do a "cp -a" to a NFS volume, the resulting files have the current >time stamp. Do I need to change my mount options or is this a kernel bug? > >Current options in fstab: defaults,owner,rw,user,auto,hard,intr,exec > > -Paul > > > This is the way cp is supposed to work. to preserve the time stamp see the man page on cp and look for the option --preserve Scott From alan at redhat.com Sun Feb 26 18:00:31 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:00:31 -0500 Subject: firefox i386 RPM should be included on x86_64 iso In-Reply-To: <440180E0.9010804@feuerpokemon.de> References: <200602251952.27138.prigault@oricom.ca> <44012606.8080308@partha.com> <44017EE7.9020906@feuerpokemon.de> <440180E0.9010804@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <20060226180031.GB7941@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 11:20:16AM +0100, dragoran wrote: > >nice project but not free (else it would be good to have it in extras) > >you said you are using it in most cases... > >in which cases does it fail? (will test it now using mozilla which is > >still x86_64 here) > > > java does not work :( Works fine with the 64bit Konqueror 8) From mharris at mharris.ca Sun Feb 26 18:07:32 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:07:32 -0500 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <20060226093634.GA10063@br-online.de> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060226093634.GA10063@br-online.de> Message-ID: <4401EE64.1060203@mharris.ca> Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Ralph Angenendt wrote: > >>Ralph Angenendt wrote: >> >>>Hi, not sure if this is the right place: >>> >>>On FC5test3 with Xair (all updates as of today) DRM fails strangely: >>> >>>| [ralph at logout ~]$ glxinfo >>>| name of display: :0.0 >>>| libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted) >>>| libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering >>>| display: :0 screen: 0 >>>| direct rendering: No >> >>Errm, yes. Worst possible bug report :) >> >>Xair is at xorg-x11-server-Xair-1.0.0.0.2.20060207-5 >> >>The card is detected as >> >>Chipset: "ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP)" (ChipID = 0x4c66) >> >>The xorg.log tells me that drm gets installed successfully. > > > But this here on the console looks like an error: > > *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/Xair: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x09071e40 *** > ======= Backtrace: ========= > /lib/libc.so.6[0x164de8] > /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x79)[0x1682ed] > /usr/bin/Xair(Xfree+0x23)[0x8205576] > /usr/lib/xair/modules/extensions/libdri.so(DRIDestroyInfoRec+0x2a)[0xe269b7] > /usr/lib/xair/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so(RADEONDRICloseScreen+0x1c3)[0x91f063] > /usr/lib/xair/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so[0x90f1b1] > /usr/bin/Xair[0x818f072] > /usr/bin/Xair[0x80f84b7] > /usr/bin/Xair[0x80d79be] > /usr/bin/Xair[0x8156e40] > /usr/bin/Xair[0x818c0a3] > /usr/bin/Xair[0x81f6a92] > /usr/bin/Xair(main+0x7b9)[0x806e3ad] > /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc)[0x1167a4] > /usr/bin/Xair(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0xad)[0x806db31] We were talking internally the other day about what the best way is for the developers, for users to report Xair related bugs is, and the overall concensus, is that in a short period of time, the accel_indirect_glx branch of X.Org CVS will be merged to head, and the primary CVS HEAD Xorg will become the home of future development, at which point bugs should be reported to X.Org bugzilla's CVS HEAD version. It's not there yet, but it will be soon, so what we decided to do, is to get people who are experiencing bugs with Xair (on any OS, including Fedora), to report their bug in X.Org bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org against the 'xorg' product, version "CVS HEAD", and make sure to start the summary line with: "[aiglx] " Assign the bug to Kristian - krh at bitplanet.net That should easily distinguish to developers, that it is Xair that is being reported, and it centralizes all bug reports to a common bugzilla. Thanks in advance. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From lsatenstein at yahoo.com Sun Feb 26 18:11:22 2006 From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:11:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Shutdown does not power off system In-Reply-To: <20060226161009.5B2047354B@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060226181122.60859.qmail@web30212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is it a bug(let). I installed Core5 Test3 with most defaults, but all packages. The kernal is not the normal one, as others have attested. However, when I initiate a shutdown, the software proceeds to shutdown, with the final console message to power off. With previous versions of Core, power off of the pc did occur. In fact, I make use of this working power off to issue the shutdown command in the crontab. Did I miss a configurable parameter? Leslie in Montreal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mharris at mharris.ca Sun Feb 26 18:19:54 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:19:54 -0500 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <200602261018.07618.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> <200602261018.07618.cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <4401F14A.3000308@mharris.ca> Anne Wilson wrote: >All I can say is that hopefully all of the different aspects of >>why cd/dvd burning in Linux is currently a bumpy ride for at least >>some people, eventually get worked out, whatever the root cause(s) >>happen to be. >> > > As Jeff remarked, speed can be the cause of problems. I always set the > maximum burn speed for half the rate that the drive claims. Coasters are > almost unknown for me. > > I don't think that applications are the cause of your problems, Mike, so maybe > it's media, or maybe it's settings. Except for the fact that I burn all my disks in Windows at the full rated speed of the media normally, and every single disk verifies properly, and works fine. I even have an ancient 1994 CDROM drive which my burns work fine on, which is rather surprising. DVD's I burn in Windows, work fine on all of my computer DVD players, as well as my standalone unit. I haven't made a frisbee burning in Windows for as long as I can even remember now. Burning in Linux either yields media that does not verify, or which doesn't work. Please tell me how that is "media" every time that is the cause. I think not. Just to restate - I have seen a number of people report that they are able to burn CD/DVD in Linux with great reliability, and some people report that their burns do not verify, while others say they do. So this isn't a 100% "it works for everyone" or "it does not work for anyone" thing. There are a great many variables involved, however I exclude the brand of media and speed of burning from the equation, because the same drive with the same media, booted into "that other OS", burns them perfect every single time - for /me/. I just want to /use/ my hardware and consider it to be a black box that either works or does not. I prefer the functionality of getting properly burned media that just works flawlessly for me period, far more than I care what OS burned them for me, or what software happened to be used, etc. This should not be rocket science really. There are various bug reports and confirmations that the kernel is (or at least has been for a long time) screwy WRT media verification. Well, verification is a very important part of the puzzle to me, and something I want to point and click and have work, not hack around. About once every 6 months, I try some test burns to RW media in Linux, with the idea that if it works properly, I'll finally be able to ditch the evil OS once again. So far, the experiment has not turned out in my favour. Bad media you say? Funny, the same RW disk re-erased and the same .iso image burned to it and verified in the evil OS with Nero or CDRwin, verifies for me, and then works. Perhaps there are evil anti-OSS pixies in my hardware. From the looks of the number of bugs reported in bugzilla, and the results of a quick google search however, I sure am not alone. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Sun Feb 26 18:23:40 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:23:40 -0500 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <1140955982.4128.95.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> <1140955982.4128.95.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <4401F22C.2000502@mharris.ca> Leon Stringer wrote: > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 17:31 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > >>In Linux, I'm starting to think the answer is "no". I got my first >>CD burner about 7-8 years ago, and used it in Linux for many years. >>I also used CDRWin and another app I forget the name of now in Windows >>occasionally when I wanted to burn DAO mode, but once DAO mode was >>supported in Linux on my burner, I stuck with Linux burning using >>xcdroast for a very long time. >> >>Then at some point, something changed in the kernel which broke CD >>burning for me, and it wasn't fixed for months. During that time, >>I switched to using CDRwin for everything in Windows again. It >>was frustrating rebooting just to burn a CD, but necessary. > > This is exactly the root of my frustration. With FC1 burning was 100% > reliable. Then it broke and I've had trouble ever since. Presumably that > was the change between 2.4 and 2.6 kernels and change to IDE CD drive > handling. From googling, and a bit of bugzilla surfing, that is what the problem appears to be for many people. I had various problems even on FC1, RHL 8, 9, and the latter few RHL 7.x releases too however. The problems definitely werent all related though, and I did manage to work around some of them. Problem is though, I don't _want_ to "work around" things myself manually for something like this. Sometimes you just want certain things to "work" without having to screw around or surf for kludges. So I bite my tongue, curse under my breath at Mr. Gates, and reboot to a useable solution, hating every minute of it, but being happy with the end result. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Sun Feb 26 18:30:24 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:30:24 -0500 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <4401AB7E.7070003@yahoo.co.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> <4401AB7E.7070003@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <4401F3C0.9010300@mharris.ca> Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> Use Nero Burning ROM in Windows XP. It more or less "just works" every >> time. > > And where do I get this stuff? Anybody giving free Windows XP out there? > ;-) This suggestion may or may not be economically, morally, or ethically viable for some people for certain. I certainly am not advocating Windows here, just mentioning that it is a solution that works for me as a workaround for the time being for certain classes of problems. ;) > Sorry to hear about your problems. I've had completetly opposite > experiences to Mike -- lots of problem when burning on Windows (well, > truth is it was some 5 years back I run any Windows on my boxes :) and > only when I eventually switched completely to Linux I had 100% reliable > burning. The only failures were to due to bad media or myself really > loading up the machine with very CPU+HD+network intensive tasks. And > that my experience since Mandrake 6 through RH 7.3, RH 9 and FC3 on SCSI > Teac 4x recorder and later on Pioneer 105 DVD recorder. > > I felt I neede to add my comment to this rather depressing thread. Hope > your problems will get fixed, guys! Yeah, hopefully. ;) Maybe ESR will write a nasty letter about CD burning support in Linux, and it'll get slashdotted and covered in all major online media, leading to rock solid CD burning/verifying support a few weeks later. ;) It worked somewhat for printing anyway, so we can remain hopeful. ;) -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Sun Feb 26 18:34:29 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:34:29 -0500 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <20060226171810.GA13310@br-online.de> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060226093634.GA10063@br-online.de> <1140950720.2934.15.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060226134642.GA11827@br-online.de> <1140968949.2934.34.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060226171810.GA13310@br-online.de> Message-ID: <4401F4B5.2080905@mharris.ca> Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > >>On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 14:46 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: >> >>>And as the error doesn't make Xair dump core either, I have no core file >>>which I can run gdb against. >> >>if Xair is setuid, set >>/proc/sys/fs/suid_dumpable >>variable to 1 >>(and make sure the ulimit for core dumping isn't 0) > > > I still can't get Xair to dump core. I see the error flashing by, but > Xair starts up "normally". Yes, 'Option "NoTrapSignals" "1"' is set in > the ServerFlags section. Run the X server as root for debugging purposes. That generally saves a lot of headaches. Also, configure the kernel as to where it should dump the core files and how it'll name them. Snoop through /proc/.... to find the proper entries.. HTH -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 18:42:02 2006 From: chasecreek.systemhouse at gmail.com (Chasecreek Systemhouse) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:42:02 -0800 Subject: encrypted filesystem? Message-ID: <91f88ee20602261042v24be6e59v66cf138a42cec9f8@mail.gmail.com> what rpm is needed to enable an encrypted filesystem? -- WC Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ From fctesting at fletchersweb.net Sun Feb 26 19:04:11 2006 From: fctesting at fletchersweb.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:04:11 +0000 Subject: Scanning with Epson In-Reply-To: <1140976168.27362.6.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> References: <200602261607.59947.fctesting@fletchersweb.net> <1140976168.27362.6.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> Message-ID: <200602261904.11441.fctesting@fletchersweb.net> On Sunday 26 Feb 2006 17:49, Gerry Tool wrote: > > If you are lucky, the scanner will now work. If it doesn't, please file > a bug report. You can see my bug report for my Epson Perfecition 4490 > Photo scanner at bugzilla #182210. My problem may be because this is a > newly supported scanner, but if you find the same thing happening, the > bug will get fixed faster if you add your input or file an additional > report. > > Thanks. Good Luck. > > Gerry There is a bug report 149027 which sounds like the same problem I've got. I've added my 2d worth to it. Due to previous problems with this scanner on FC3, I am suspicious of the current libusb. That was before I joined Fedora Documentation and Bugzilla so I didn't get around to reporting it properly, but I don't really want to get into fighting with FC5 to implement the same work-around. Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 From dstolte at arcor.de Sun Feb 26 19:08:30 2006 From: dstolte at arcor.de (D. Stolte) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:08:30 +0100 Subject: encrypted filesystem? In-Reply-To: <91f88ee20602261042v24be6e59v66cf138a42cec9f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <91f88ee20602261042v24be6e59v66cf138a42cec9f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4401FCAE.5060309@arcor.de> cryptsetup-luks /ds Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > what rpm is needed to enable an encrypted filesystem? > > -- > WC Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ > From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Sun Feb 26 19:08:31 2006 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:08:31 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <4401F4B5.2080905@mharris.ca> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060226093634.GA10063@br-online.de> <1140950720.2934.15.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060226134642.GA11827@br-online.de> <1140968949.2934.34.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060226171810.GA13310@br-online.de> <4401F4B5.2080905@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <20060226190831.GB13310@br-online.de> Mike A. Harris wrote: > Ralph Angenendt wrote: > >I still can't get Xair to dump core. I see the error flashing by, but > >Xair starts up "normally". Yes, 'Option "NoTrapSignals" "1"' is set in > >the ServerFlags section. > > Run the X server as root for debugging purposes. That generally saves > a lot of headaches. Also, configure the kernel as to where it should > dump the core files and how it'll name them. Snoop through /proc/.... > to find the proper entries.. Yeah, I tried to do that. It does dump core, when I press -C on the console to stop Xair. But I cannot get it to do that while starting up ... Dang, that's the *one* time I want to have something dump core on me and it doesn't ... Ralph -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I know there are plenty more installed since choosing "Random" > >>> option will result in screensaver I cannot choose manually. Worse yet, > >>> half of the available ones are OpenGL (10) that do not seem to work on > >>> my hardware :( I have a full list on FC3 box but not on FC5t3... > >>> > >>> Is this supoosed to be this way? Why? > >>> > >> In FC4 there was a separate screen sever package (xscreensaver-base) > >> that has to be installed manually > >> > > There are 3 additionals RPM available > > xscreensaver-extras-4.24-1.1 > > xscreensaver-gl-extras-4.24-1.1 > > xscreensaver-base-4.24-1.1 > > xscreensaver-base package helped a lot, thanks! > > Question still remains: why not all installed (in default install) > screensavers are listed in Control Center? > The screensavers package used to include all the screensavers and many people were having problems because the gl screensavers were causing lock-ups on systems that could not run the gl packages in X. AIUI, the base package does not have any of the gl screensavers so that is avoided. The extras and gl-extras are just that -- additional screensavers that some might want. I believe there was also a security issue with some of the extras screensavers in that they would actually display what was on the desktop while using sections of the display as puzzle pieces or morphing them. The ability had to be available to NOT allow that type of screensaver for organizations with high security requirements. Separating the packages simplifies that. > Is this a bug? > > Regards, > Dariusz From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 26 19:20:54 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:20:54 +0000 Subject: FC5T3: Why only so few screensavers available to choose in in KDE? In-Reply-To: <1140980926.4115.70.camel@eagle.lab.net> References: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> <200602251133.24284.fox3ec208@wideopenwest.com> <44009A63.5000201@FamilleCollet.com> <4401BD6D.5090502@yahoo.co.uk> <1140980926.4115.70.camel@eagle.lab.net> Message-ID: <4401FF96.2090306@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/26/2006 07:08 PM, Jeff Vian wrote: > On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 14:38 +0000, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> On 02/25/2006 05:56 PM, Remi Collet wrote: >>> Terry Polzin a ?crit : >>>> On Saturday February 25 2006 08:08, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> For some reason I can see only very limited number of screensavers (21 >>>>> in total) in KDE Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Screen Saver >>>>> panel. I know there are plenty more installed since choosing "Random" >>>>> option will result in screensaver I cannot choose manually. Worse yet, >>>>> half of the available ones are OpenGL (10) that do not seem to work on >>>>> my hardware :( I have a full list on FC3 box but not on FC5t3... >>>>> >>>>> Is this supoosed to be this way? Why? >>>>> >>>> In FC4 there was a separate screen sever package (xscreensaver-base) >>>> that has to be installed manually >>>> >>> There are 3 additionals RPM available >>> xscreensaver-extras-4.24-1.1 >>> xscreensaver-gl-extras-4.24-1.1 >>> xscreensaver-base-4.24-1.1 >> xscreensaver-base package helped a lot, thanks! >> >> Question still remains: why not all installed (in default install) >> screensavers are listed in Control Center? >> > > The screensavers package used to include all the screensavers and many > people were having problems because the gl screensavers were causing > lock-ups on systems that could not run the gl packages in X. > AIUI, the base package does not have any of the gl screensavers so that > is avoided. The extras and gl-extras are just that -- additional > screensavers that some might want. The problem is not with xscreensaver-* packages -- these seem fine and in fact have to be installed separately (at least I have not had them installed by default). The problem is apparently with gnome-screensavers package, which installs X screensavers but only Y are listed in Control Center and in Gnome to choose from, where Y < X. That is: not all screensavers installed are listed. Moreover about half of the listed ones are gl and may not work on every machine or work rather miserably. See bug 183125. Regards, Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From ivg2 at cornell.edu Sun Feb 26 19:32:06 2006 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:32:06 -0500 Subject: fc5t3 gnome power manager crash during yum update In-Reply-To: <4401EAEE.6060607@verizon.net> References: <4401EAEE.6060607@verizon.net> Message-ID: <44020236.20406@cornell.edu> > While yum updating fc5t3 I got the kernel grubby crash (known) and > also a popup that the gnome power manager crashed unexpectedly. A terminal launch shows: *** WARNING *** [main] gpm-main.c:196 (14:27:57): Unable to determine the address of the message bus GNOME Power Manager has encountered a non-critical warning. Consult http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=gnome-power-manager for any known issues or a possible fix. Please file a bug with this complete message if not present *** WARNING *** ** ERROR **: This program cannot start until you start the dbus session daemon This is usually started in X or gnome startup (depending on distro) You can launch the session dbus-daemon manually with this command: eval `dbus-launch --auto-syntax` aborting... ========== If I start up dbus as it suggests, gnome-power-manager will not crash. This is poor error recovery - if I had not launched this from a terminal I'd have no idea what the problem was. ========== Also, during startup I got a pop up box saying: "Cannot find or run the base session script. Running Gnome failsafe session instead." Then I got a message saying startup scripts will not be ran. I suspect this is the source of the problem above. > > When I clicked "inform developers" in the gui, it told me the lists > were out of date and offered to update them. > > After updating the lists, another gui came up prompting me to select > the component that crashed. I would consider it a bug in itself that bug-buddy is not smart enough to select the component that crash itself. From dmutters at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 20:19:08 2006 From: dmutters at gmail.com (Dane Mutters) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:19:08 -0800 Subject: eth0 ceases to function after reboot on FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <20060226103423.A13669@xos037.xos.nl> References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602252138.21192.dmutters@gmail.com> <20060226103423.A13669@xos037.xos.nl> Message-ID: <200602261219.08870.dmutters@gmail.com> On Sunday 26 February 2006 01:34 am, Jos Vos wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 09:38:21PM -0800, Dane Mutters wrote: > > Fedora originally reported the MAC as being: 00:04:5A:55:96:57, but now > > Fedora and Knoppix are both reporting it as: FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF. Very > > strange... > > I've seen more than one Ethernet card dying this way, so it might > very well be a real hardware failure. > > What you can try: power off the system completely, remove power cable, > wait 10 sec or so, plug in the cable and power on again and see if > something has changed. At least with one piece of (bad) HW this > helped in the past (but it can go wrong again at every boot). > > -- > -- Jos Vos > -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 > -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 That fixed it! It now reports the MAC address of "00:04:5A:55:96:57". It does look like it's at least somewhat hardware-related. The one question I have, though, is why does this this card work with the wrong MAC address in Knoppix, but not in Fedora? Could it have to do with Kudzu segfaulting? Thanks for your help, everybody. --Dane From linxt at comcast.net Sun Feb 26 20:37:14 2006 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:37:14 -0800 Subject: Not privileged to mount CDs In-Reply-To: <20060226055927.76080dcf.paul@permanentmail.com> References: <20060226055927.76080dcf.paul@permanentmail.com> Message-ID: <200602261237.14360.linxt@comcast.net> On Sunday 26 February 2006 04:59, Paul Dickson wrote: > When I place a non-blank CD in my CDROM drive, I get the message "You are > not privileged to mount the volume ''." > > What do I need to do to be privileged? > > This might be new as google doesn't find anything immediately relevant. > > -Paul Check "man fstab" for enteries in the fourth field. "user" should work for this. HTH, Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA From paul at permanentmail.com Sun Feb 26 20:54:33 2006 From: paul at permanentmail.com (Paul Dickson) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:54:33 -0700 Subject: Copy files to NFS directory loose time stamps In-Reply-To: <4401EB1C.1050905@cox.net> References: <20060226060429.4472a722.paul@permanentmail.com> <4401EB1C.1050905@cox.net> Message-ID: <20060226135433.809c10d5.paul@permanentmail.com> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:53:32 -0800, oldman wrote: > Paul Dickson wrote: > > >If I do a "cp -a" to a NFS volume, the resulting files have the current > >time stamp. Do I need to change my mount options or is this a kernel bug? > > > >Current options in fstab: defaults,owner,rw,user,auto,hard,intr,exec > > This is the way cp is supposed to work. to preserve the time stamp > see the man > page on cp and look for the option --preserve No, the man page says -a preserves timestamps, but it's not. -Paul From talbotscott at cox.net Sun Feb 26 21:12:43 2006 From: talbotscott at cox.net (oldman) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:12:43 -0800 Subject: Copy files to NFS directory loose time stamps In-Reply-To: <20060226135433.809c10d5.paul@permanentmail.com> References: <20060226060429.4472a722.paul@permanentmail.com> <4401EB1C.1050905@cox.net> <20060226135433.809c10d5.paul@permanentmail.com> Message-ID: <440219CB.3010505@cox.net> Paul Dickson wrote: >On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:53:32 -0800, oldman wrote: > > > >>Paul Dickson wrote: >> >> >> >>>If I do a "cp -a" to a NFS volume, the resulting files have the current >>>time stamp. Do I need to change my mount options or is this a kernel bug? >>> >>>Current options in fstab: defaults,owner,rw,user,auto,hard,intr,exec >>> >>> >> This is the way cp is supposed to work. to preserve the time stamp >>see the man >>page on cp and look for the option --preserve >> >> > >No, the man page says -a preserves timestamps, but it's not. > > -Paul > > > Hmm.. looks like I could have read more closely that cp -a is the same as -dpR. Did you try specifying the --preserve anyway? I tested it locally and it behaves as expected. Perhaps you could try rcp or scp? Scott From berryja at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 21:14:47 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:14:47 -0600 Subject: Request for testers to confirm nv driver mouse cursor bug In-Reply-To: <440169EC.4050907@mharris.ca> References: <4400D5DA.7000204@redhat.com> <8767947e0602251853y2ebc44c5l3238e3ef1bb1b20d@mail.gmail.com> <440169EC.4050907@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <8767947e0602261314j1955b799v284aaacb8471c0de@mail.gmail.com> On 2/26/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Jonathan Berry wrote: > > On 2/25/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > > >>If you are using Nvidia video hardware with FC5test3 or later, and the > >>mouse cursor is invisible, or has any visible mouse pointer corruption, > >>please add a comment to the following bug report to confirm you are > >>having the same problem, and attach your X server log file as an > >>uncompressed file attachment: > >> > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182517 > >> > >>2 chips have been identified as experiencing this problem so far, so > >>once people have updated the report with any other chips that have > >>the problem, I am going to disable hardware cursors on those chips > >>by default so that things work out of the box in FC5 for as many > >>nv users as possible. > > > > > > I do *not* see any mouse pointer corruption on my system. x86_64 with > > a 6600 GT. From lspci: > > 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce > > 6600 GT] (rev a2) > > That's not a PCI ID, but a textual description of a video card. > PCI ID is 2 32bit hex numbers of the form VENDOR:DEVICE > > lspci -vn > > It's the numerical value that matters from a programmatical > standpoint. If it turns out 2 people have the same device > ID, but one has no cursor, and the other works fine, that would > be useful information to add to the X.Org bug reprot for the > driver maintainer though. Ahh, sorry. Here is the info from lspci -vn (looks like the PCI ID is two 16-bit numbers ; ) ): 05:00.0 0300: 10de:0140 (rev a2) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 12 Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64M] Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at ec000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] [virtual] Expansion ROM at ed000000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [68] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting Would you like me to add this to the RedHat bugzilla, the Xorg bugzilla, or both? Looks like most people have been adding to the RH one. Jonathan From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Sun Feb 26 21:20:18 2006 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:20:18 +0100 Subject: Xair - DRM fails In-Reply-To: <20060226093634.GA10063@br-online.de> References: <20060224000200.GA22779@br-online.de> <20060224104028.GE4616@br-online.de> <20060226093634.GA10063@br-online.de> Message-ID: <20060226212018.GC13310@br-online.de> Ralph Angenendt wrote: > But this here on the console looks like an error: > > *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/Xair: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x09071e40 *** This already is fixed on the accel_indirect_branch branch and will be merged to HEAD soon. New RPMs should come out some time later. See - if somebody else is running into that. So no bling! for me at the moment :( Ralph -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From berryja at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 21:25:30 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:25:30 -0600 Subject: man pages for GLUT? In-Reply-To: <44016D22.4050208@mharris.ca> References: <8767947e0602251903m7cf66b00i4035dae616833566@mail.gmail.com> <44016D22.4050208@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <8767947e0602261325x2c22d9e2l20362d9112fcc28f@mail.gmail.com> On 2/26/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Jonathan Berry wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone know why there are no man pages included for GLUT in the > > freeglut (or freeglut-devel) package? > > Because the freeglut tarball does not contain any manpages. > > > My school has some version of SuSE running on the computers that we > > do OpenGL development on. The SuSE version of the freeglut rpms has > > the man pages (specifially, they are in the freeglut-devel rpm). > > I haven't looked at the SuSE freeglut rpm, however the freeglut source > code does not have any manpages, so there are none installed. If SuSE > wrote manpages for freeglut, I would hope that they would submit them > back to the freeglut project, as that would be the right thing to do. > > One way to find out would be for you to download the SuSE freeglut > src.rpm and install it to see where the manpages come from. If they > come from the official GLUT sources however, then they're under the > same license for GLUT, which is not OSS, and not something that can > be included in Fedora Core. > > > I've noticed that there is some HTML documentation included with the > > Fedora rpm, but nothing quite as helpful as man pages. If there > > are not any licencing issues with the man pages (could there be?), > > would it be possible for the Fedora rpms to include these? > > I have no idea where they come from. > > If there are GLUT manpages which are licensed under a proper OSI > approved OSS license, once the author of them submits them to the > freeglut project, they will probably appear in a future release of > freeglut. > > Study the SuSE src.rpm and determine where the manpages they allegedly > ship actually come from, and try to find a license for them. > > Another option is for someone to volunteer to write manpages for > freeglut from scratch and submit them to the freeglut project. Well, after some digging, this is what I have found out. The freeglut-2.4.0-4.src.rpm from (Open) SuSE 10 (can be found here: ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/suse/src/ ) contains a glutman.tar.bz2 with the GLUT man pages. I could find nothing that indicated where the man pages came from. Some google work turned up a site from SGI which had "freeware" packages on it, including a GLUT package. It appears the man pages have been extracted from the glut-3.7.tar.gz source tarball from this site: http://freeware.sgi.com/source/ I have not been able to find anything that looks definitive on a license. The best I could find is the NOTICE file in the glut-3.7.tar.gz tarball: NOTICE: The OpenGL Utility Toolkit (GLUT) distribution contains source code published in a book titled "Programming OpenGL for the X Window System" (ISBN: 0-201-48359-9) published by Addison-Wesley. The programs and associated files contained in the distribution were developed by Mark J. Kilgard and are Copyright 1994, 1995, 1996 by Mark J. Kilgard (unless otherwise noted). The programs are not in the public domain, but they are freely distributable without licensing fees. These programs are provided without guarantee or warrantee expressed or implied. Apparently, OpenSuSE feels they can include these man pages with their freeglut package. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Jonathan From berryja at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 21:36:40 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:36:40 -0600 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <200602261133.05636.dennis@ausil.us> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> <200602261133.05636.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <8767947e0602261336g5f249f2br647c319579ec11e6@mail.gmail.com> On 2/26/06, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Once upon a time Sunday 26 February 2006 11:21 am, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I installed FC5T3 x86_64 via network using only first isntall CD. > > I ended up with some packages sort-of duplicated, e.g. > > > try > rpm -qa --queryformat "%{name}-%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}\n" |grep kde|sort > you will see that they are the i386 version and the x86_64 this is normal Why is this not the default queryformat for x86_64? It would cut down on a lot of confusion and noise for those new to the x86_64 platform. And I do not see what it would hurt to make it default in all cases if it complicates things to make it default for only x86_64. It's fairly simple to add this to your .rpmmacros, but the people who will know to do this will already know about the dual-arch stuff. Jonathan From jkeating at j2solutions.net Sun Feb 26 21:40:50 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:40:50 -0500 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602261336g5f249f2br647c319579ec11e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> <200602261133.05636.dennis@ausil.us> <8767947e0602261336g5f249f2br647c319579ec11e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140990050.18065.0.camel@ender> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 15:36 -0600, Jonathan Berry wrote: > > Why is this not the default queryformat for x86_64? It would cut down > on a lot of confusion and noise for those new to the x86_64 platform. > And I do not see what it would hurt to make it default in all cases if > it complicates things to make it default for only x86_64. It's fairly > simple to add this to your .rpmmacros, but the people who will know to > do this will already know about the dual-arch stuff. Because changing the expected output of rpm -q is a bad bad thing. Don't do that. Of course people shouldn't be screen scraping the output or relying on it w/out doing their own --qf for ensured stability, people do anyway, and we'd rather not break all their scripts. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From rmy at tigress.co.uk Sun Feb 26 21:48:06 2006 From: rmy at tigress.co.uk (Ron Yorston) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:48:06 GMT Subject: ps not working as expected Message-ID: <200602262148.k1QLm69V017653@tiffany.internal.tigress.co.uk> I'm seeing different results if I run 'ps ax' as root and as an ordinary user. Some processes don't appear in the listing for the ordinary user. Running under strace shows that ps is failing to open /proc/NNN/stat for these processes. 'ls -Z' shows that these processes (and only these processes) have SystemLow-SystemHigh on their stat files. If I run with selinux=0 ps behaves as expected. This is an fc5t3 system with all recent updates. Kernel 2.6.15-1.1977_FC5. Ron From paul at permanentmail.com Sun Feb 26 21:52:55 2006 From: paul at permanentmail.com (Paul Dickson) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:52:55 -0700 Subject: Not privileged to mount CDs In-Reply-To: <200602261237.14360.linxt@comcast.net> References: <20060226055927.76080dcf.paul@permanentmail.com> <200602261237.14360.linxt@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20060226145255.eff33a55.paul@permanentmail.com> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:37:14 -0800, Thomas Taylor wrote: > On Sunday 26 February 2006 04:59, Paul Dickson wrote: > > When I place a non-blank CD in my CDROM drive, I get the message "You are > > not privileged to mount the volume ''." > > > > What do I need to do to be privileged? > > > > This might be new as google doesn't find anything immediately relevant. > > > > -Paul > > Check "man fstab" for enteries in the fourth field. "user" should work for > this. /dev/scd0 /media/cdrecorder auto pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed,user 0 0 Thanks for the idea, but it doesn't help. -Paul From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Sun Feb 26 21:58:04 2006 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:58:04 +0100 Subject: WiFi card detected as Ethernet In-Reply-To: <1140969888.4408.26.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local> References: <1140957404.4128.101.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <1140969888.4408.26.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local> Message-ID: <20060226215804.GJ22716@neu.nirvana> On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 09:04:48AM -0700, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 09:48 -0600, Caerie Houchins wrote: > > I have the intel card wireless card too. It will show up as a wired > > ethernet card untill you install the ipw2100 firmware. Some repos > > have the RPM but its probably legally questionable and not included in > > the core distro. Ran accross this on my Dell 6000 laptop. No, there is no legal issue here. It is just the "don't place non-GPL compatible bits on media with GPL". RHEL for instance ships the firmware on a separate CD. > ATRPMs has kernel drivers, but they seem to require Axel's custom > kernels. No, they don't require non-Fedora Core kernels, all Fedora Core, RHEL, RHL kernels (the lateast at least) are supported as well as some ATrpms specific kernels, too. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Brian From berryja at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 22:04:02 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:04:02 -0600 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <1140990050.18065.0.camel@ender> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> <200602261133.05636.dennis@ausil.us> <8767947e0602261336g5f249f2br647c319579ec11e6@mail.gmail.com> <1140990050.18065.0.camel@ender> Message-ID: <8767947e0602261404j15de85ala1b4cffb8645dc0d@mail.gmail.com> On 2/26/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 15:36 -0600, Jonathan Berry wrote: > > Why is this not the default queryformat for x86_64? It would cut down > > on a lot of confusion and noise for those new to the x86_64 platform. > > And I do not see what it would hurt to make it default in all cases if > > it complicates things to make it default for only x86_64. It's fairly > > simple to add this to your .rpmmacros, but the people who will know to > > do this will already know about the dual-arch stuff. > > Because changing the expected output of rpm -q is a bad bad thing. > Don't do that. Of course people shouldn't be screen scraping the output > or relying on it w/out doing their own --qf for ensured stability, > people do anyway, and we'd rather not break all their scripts. I see where you are coming from, but on x86_64 you essentially must add the arch into the rpm queryformat, so you could have this issue anyway. Why should we support people if they are not doing the right thing (using -q instead of -qf)? Why should we not fix something because it will break backwards compatibility? OSS seems to do this all the time, eg the kernel or the recent glibc ABI change. Of course, we could debate whether this problem needs fixing, but from my point of view, it does. The default output on x86_64 is ambiguous. I don't intend to be argumentative, and I think backwards compatibility is usually a good thing, but sometimes you just have to break it to improve something. Well, there you have my opinion : ). Jonathan From michal at harddata.com Sun Feb 26 22:17:38 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:17:38 -0700 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602261336g5f249f2br647c319579ec11e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> <200602261133.05636.dennis@ausil.us> <8767947e0602261336g5f249f2br647c319579ec11e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060226221738.GC2087@mail.harddata.com> On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 03:36:40PM -0600, Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 2/26/06, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > try > > rpm -qa --queryformat "%{name}-%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}\n" |grep kde|sort > > you will see that they are the i386 version and the x86_64 this is normal > > Why is this not the default queryformat for x86_64? It would be really nasty to make an output of 'rpm -qa' architecture dependent. OTOH /etc/cron.daily/rpm does something pretty close to the above so it is enough to grep through /var/log/rpmpkgs (and you can run /etc/cron.daily/rpm yourself if logs are not current yet). Michal From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Sun Feb 26 22:32:13 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfied) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 06:32:13 +0800 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <4401F3C0.9010300@mharris.ca> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> <4401AB7E.7070003@yahoo.co.uk> <4401F3C0.9010300@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <44022C6D.1030604@herakles.homelinux.org> Mike A. Harris wrote: > > Yeah, hopefully. ;) Maybe ESR will write a nasty letter about CD One imagines Mike Harris could have a similar effect, given his long-standing connexion with a major Linux vendor. Go for it Mike: I've been turning out duds on three different DVD burners (2x LG, one a brand I don't recognise in my Acer Aspire) on Fedora Core and SUSE. I've not tried Windows, had no reason to until now: now the Q is how to reformat my laptop's drive to NTFS (I'm not keen on the in-place conversion). > burning support in Linux, and it'll get slashdotted and covered in > all major online media, leading to rock solid CD burning/verifying > support a few weeks later. ;) It worked somewhat for printing > anyway, so we can remain hopeful. ;) > > -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa at computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list From rmy at tigress.co.uk Sun Feb 26 22:34:07 2006 From: rmy at tigress.co.uk (Ron Yorston) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:34:07 GMT Subject: ps not working as expected Message-ID: <200602262234.k1QMY7u04971@tigress.co.uk> After a reboot with SELinux enabled the system decided to relabel the filesystems. Now 'ps ax' shows all processes, even for an ordinary user. 'ls -Z' on the stat files still reports SystemLow-SystemHigh for processes that were previously affected (like the X server). Very odd. Ron From dcbw at redhat.com Sun Feb 26 22:44:00 2006 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:44:00 -0500 Subject: libnotify and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: <1140991372.2290.2.camel@zaphod.graze.net> References: <1140991372.2290.2.camel@zaphod.graze.net> Message-ID: <1140993840.2992.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 17:02 -0500, Brian C. huffman wrote: > When I first login NetworkManager is popping up a "Network Disconnected" > dialog box (coutesy of libnotify) which is great except the box shows up > out in the middle of nowhere (somewhere on the left side of my screen > down a little from the menu bar). Once the applet actually loads, it's > on the right side of the screen. > > Is this a bug that should be reported? Fixed in CVS, it hopefully will make the cut here during the FC5-final freeze. We'll see. If not, should show up as an update after FC-5 goes out. Dan From dcbw at redhat.com Sun Feb 26 22:49:24 2006 From: dcbw at redhat.com (Dan Williams) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:49:24 -0500 Subject: Problem with compile drivers In-Reply-To: <20060226180139.877C.STOKERR@gmail.com> References: <1140969888.4408.26.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local> <1140970983.13642.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060226180139.877C.STOKERR@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1140994164.2992.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 18:19 +0100, stokerr at gmail.com wrote: > I am a newbie in linux > > How to install sources/headers to compile module drivers ? > > I tried to install > > kernel-devel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5.686.rpm > kernel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5..src.rpm > kernel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5.i686.rpm > > get this error > > [root at localhost madwifi-cvs-20051025]# make KERNELPATH=/usr/src/linux-2.6.15.i686 Try: make KERNELPATH=/usr/src/kernels/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5-i686 or: make KERNELPATH=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build That's where kernel-devel installs most of the kernel headers and such. I think you're directing to the location of the the files the SRPM installs, which aren't used for building things against the kernel, but are used for building the kernel itself. Dan From yinyang at eburg.com Sun Feb 26 22:56:20 2006 From: yinyang at eburg.com (Gordon Messmer) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:56:20 -0800 Subject: Mouse lockups in X.org w/ ATI In-Reply-To: <44015DA8.5070706@eburg.com> References: <44015DA8.5070706@eburg.com> Message-ID: <44023214.80309@eburg.com> This is interesting... The mouse seems to lock up after 10 seconds of inactivity. As long as I use the mouse constantly, it doesn't seem to lock up. From smooge at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 23:03:05 2006 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen J. Smoogen) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:03:05 -0700 Subject: Dell Latitude D800 Kernel Crash (FC5T3 + Rawhide ) In-Reply-To: <46970.192.94.41.42.1140919509.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <80d7e4090602251731i3a0524b9h38e4ff4de63c7b14@mail.gmail.com> <46970.192.94.41.42.1140919509.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <80d7e4090602261503t390fec25lfa5cdd64104c93a0@mail.gmail.com> On 2/25/06, Steven Haigh wrote: > On Sun, February 26, 2006 12:31 pm, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > > I have a repeatable kernel crash on my Dell Latitude when the minipci > > is turned on in the bios. The box has a broadcom wireless chipset on > > the minipci. I have hand-entered the ooops into bugzilla.. hope it > > helps. > > Is it the same as this? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179714 > This is the same in the last areas. I missed it on my bugzilla searches.. -- Stephen J Smoogen. CSIRT/Linux System Administrator From berryja at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 22:58:27 2006 From: berryja at gmail.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:58:27 -0600 Subject: Running GLUT programs with nv driver Message-ID: <8767947e0602261458p7d7b32e2w6b47a45b31633649@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I am still trying to run GLUT programs on my rawhide box with the nv driver (6600 GT). It looks like the execstack issue with Mesa has finally been cleared up as I no longer get an error to that effect. This is what I do get when I try to run a simple GLUT program: $ ./gltest freeglut (./gltest): Unable to create direct context rendering for window 'An Example OpenGL Program' This may hurt performance. X Error of failed request: GLXBadContext Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent) Serial number of failed request: 29 Current serial number in output stream: 29 I get the "direct context rendering" warning on other systems, but the programs still run on the systems with older non-3d ATI cards. Does anyone know if software rendering will work with an nVidia card and the nv driver? Jonathan From yinyang at eburg.com Sun Feb 26 23:14:33 2006 From: yinyang at eburg.com (Gordon Messmer) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:14:33 -0800 Subject: Mouse lockups in X.org w/ ATI In-Reply-To: <44023214.80309@eburg.com> References: <44015DA8.5070706@eburg.com> <44023214.80309@eburg.com> Message-ID: <44023659.4060705@eburg.com> Gordon Messmer wrote: > This is interesting... The mouse seems to lock up after 10 seconds of > inactivity. As long as I use the mouse constantly, it doesn't seem to > lock up. > Also, the problem doesn't affect non-optical mice. I have a Dell branded USB mouse which works properly. I'll try to get my hands on another brand of optical mouse later, and see if it's specific to the Logitech brand. From fhew3 at cogeco.ca Sun Feb 26 23:39:59 2006 From: fhew3 at cogeco.ca (Fulko Hew) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:39:59 -0500 Subject: FC5 Test 3 can't even boot Message-ID: <44023C4F.5040009@cogeco.ca> After researching these symptoms on the isolinux mailing list (http://syslinux.zytor.com/archives/): "Unknown keyword in config file", and "Could not find kernel image" there seem to be many people having similar symptoms on their non-Fedora systems too. There are many comments about being BIOS related, but I could not find any definitive answer, because none of the responses described what the BIOS problem might be. One person suggested a workaround that he found for his system, and that worked for me on Test 3. ...When you enter 'linux' during the install bootstrap time, it sort of activates macros in Isolinux's config file that effectively causes Isolinux to invoke: /isolinux/vmlinuz initrd=/isolinux/initrd.img By entering this manually at the 'boot:' prompt, I could still boot off of both the CD and DVD distribution media, and continue the installation process. (Of course I had anaconda fail and create a stack trace many times, and had other issues, but at least I could boot the installation process.) From fhew3 at cogeco.ca Mon Feb 27 00:12:28 2006 From: fhew3 at cogeco.ca (Fulko Hew) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:12:28 -0500 Subject: Are mouse gestures permanently enabled? Message-ID: <440243EC.7090304@cogeco.ca> It seems as though 'mouse gestures' are permanently enabled (in KDE). (I first noticed this when I migrated to Core 4 a month ago, but I still get it on Core 5 test 3, and it never happened on Core 3). a) When I use the touchpad to click on an item, say the fedora menu, it will pop up, but as soon as I touch the mousepad again to move along the menu, it acts as though I clicked the menu button again, so the menu pops down. b) Sometimes I might get so far as being able to click on the logout option. The logout/shutdown window appears and the screen starts to darken the background, but as soon as I touch the mouse pad to move the pointer over to click on the 'logout' button, it aborts the logout request, and removes the window. c) In Firefox, probably about 80% of the time, when I touch the touchpad to move the mouse 'up and to the left' (to get to a hyperlink), the browser acts as though I pushed the 'back' button. d) Sometimes when I use the touchpad to move the curor 'up and left' in a "Konsole" window, then window acts (scrolls) as though I was dragging the scroll bar up. All this sounds like 'mouse gestures' to me, so I went into the KDE Control Center, and disabled 'gestures' in: - accessibility, - Input Actions - disable mouse gestures globaly, - in Actions->Konqueror gestures, I editied each entry and explicitly disable each and every one. But nothing has stopped this behaviour. From russell at coker.com.au Mon Feb 27 00:29:08 2006 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:29:08 +1100 Subject: 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 memory leak? In-Reply-To: <4401CEBE.5090605@cornell.edu> References: <200602262200.49225.russell@coker.com.au> <4401CEBE.5090605@cornell.edu> Message-ID: <200602271129.14651.russell@coker.com.au> On Monday 27 February 2006 02:52, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > Is there a known kernel memory leak in 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5? > > Is this the stock kernel? > Does it have any 3rd party modules installed? Stock kernel with no 3rd party modules. > I ask, because I ran into a memory leak with the 1955 LSPP kernel, with > madwifi and nvidia installed. That's a different thing. My machine in question has no wifi and no X. > Steve Grubb later said he's found some sort of leak, and it will be fixed. > I am now running stock 1977 kernel, will wait and see if it leaks. I'm now running that version too. I guess I'll have an idea of how good it is in about 9 days time. Of course there is the possibility that the memory leak was triggered by some sort of DOS attack in which case the attacker might just target someone else's machine and mine might stay working even with a buggy kernel. :( -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From sgrubb at redhat.com Mon Feb 27 01:17:37 2006 From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:17:37 -0500 Subject: 2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 memory leak? In-Reply-To: <200602271129.14651.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200602262200.49225.russell@coker.com.au> <4401CEBE.5090605@cornell.edu> <200602271129.14651.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <200602262017.37545.sgrubb@redhat.com> On Sunday 26 February 2006 19:29, Russell Coker wrote: > > Steve Grubb later said he's found some sort of leak, and it will be > > fixed. I am now running stock 1977 kernel, will wait and see if it leaks. > > I'm now running that version too. ?I guess I'll have an idea of how good it > is in about 9 days time. ? Depending on your system you might not make it 9 days. The best way to avoid the memory leak is to disable audit (auditctl -e 0)...especially if its a remote computer. oom killer might zap sshd. > Of course there is the possibility that the memory leak was triggered by > some sort of DOS attack in which case the attacker might just target someone > else's machine and mine might stay working even with a buggy kernel. ?:( No, it was 2 mallocs not being freed on some syscalls. lspp.10 kernel is building right now and I'll update the yum repo tomorrow am. I might put the kernel at http://people.redhat.com/sgrubb/files/lspp in a few minutes where it can be retrieved and installed manually. -Steve From jvian10 at charter.net Mon Feb 27 01:58:19 2006 From: jvian10 at charter.net (Jeff Vian) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:58:19 -0600 Subject: Copy files to NFS directory loose time stamps In-Reply-To: <4401EB1C.1050905@cox.net> References: <20060226060429.4472a722.paul@permanentmail.com> <4401EB1C.1050905@cox.net> Message-ID: <1141005499.4115.77.camel@eagle.lab.net> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 09:53 -0800, oldman wrote: > Paul Dickson wrote: > > >If I do a "cp -a" to a NFS volume, the resulting files have the current > >time stamp. Do I need to change my mount options or is this a kernel bug? > > > >Current options in fstab: defaults,owner,rw,user,auto,hard,intr,exec > > > > -Paul > > > > > > > This is the way cp is supposed to work. to preserve the time stamp > see the man > page on cp and look for the option --preserve > cp -a also preserves the time stamp. The man page for cp says -a, --archive same as -dpR I would suspect this is related to nfs and not the cp command. The mount options may have an affect, as well as needing to be 100% certain the destination has proper permissions. > Scott > From paul at permanentmail.com Mon Feb 27 02:08:10 2006 From: paul at permanentmail.com (Paul Dickson) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:08:10 -0700 Subject: Copy files to NFS directory loose time stamps In-Reply-To: <6280325c0602261348w389c34e5s4b350b1b7005e0d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060226060429.4472a722.paul@permanentmail.com> <6280325c0602261348w389c34e5s4b350b1b7005e0d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060226190810.524a9eb2.paul@permanentmail.com> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:18:07 +1030, n0dalus wrote: > On 2/26/06, Paul Dickson wrote: > > If I do a "cp -a" to a NFS volume, the resulting files have the current > > time stamp. Do I need to change my mount options or is this a kernel bug? > > > > Are you able to `touch` the files on the volume? (eg `touch -r file > /copy/of/file/on/nfs` ). "mv" has the same problem. I can copy the timestamps with touch: touch -r old /new -Paul From chrisw01 at comcast.net Mon Feb 27 02:42:13 2006 From: chrisw01 at comcast.net (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:42:13 -0700 Subject: WiFi card detected as Ethernet In-Reply-To: <20060226215804.GJ22716@neu.nirvana> References: <1140957404.4128.101.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <1140969888.4408.26.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local> <20060226215804.GJ22716@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <1141008133.16506.16.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 22:58 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 09:04:48AM -0700, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 09:48 -0600, Caerie Houchins wrote: > > > I have the intel card wireless card too. It will show up as a wired > > > ethernet card untill you install the ipw2100 firmware. Some repos > > > ATRPMs has kernel drivers, but they seem to require Axel's custom > > kernels. > > No, they don't require non-Fedora Core kernels, all Fedora Core, RHEL, > RHL kernels (the lateast at least) are supported as well as some > ATrpms specific kernels, too. OK - Excellent. ...And thanks. It's possible I had just picked up the wrong RPMs. We'll see how thing work for him in a little while. I'm about to configure ATrpms with my FC5T3 system to try a few other things out. Cheers, Chris -- ====================== "Never murder a man when he's busy committing suicide." -- Woodrow Wilson From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Mon Feb 27 03:32:20 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:32:20 -0500 Subject: FC5T3: Why only so few screensavers available to choose in in KDE? In-Reply-To: <1140980926.4115.70.camel@eagle.lab.net> References: <440056B3.3050705@yahoo.co.uk> <200602251133.24284.fox3ec208@wideopenwest.com> <44009A63.5000201@FamilleCollet.com> <4401BD6D.5090502@yahoo.co.uk> <1140980926.4115.70.camel@eagle.lab.net> Message-ID: <440272C4.2000805@insight.rr.com> Jeff Vian wrote: > >>>There are 3 additionals RPM available >>>xscreensaver-extras-4.24-1.1 >>>xscreensaver-gl-extras-4.24-1.1 >>>xscreensaver-base-4.24-1.1 >> >>xscreensaver-base package helped a lot, thanks! >> >>Question still remains: why not all installed (in default install) >>screensavers are listed in Control Center? >> > > > The screensavers package used to include all the screensavers and many > people were having problems because the gl screensavers were causing > lock-ups on systems that could not run the gl packages in X. > AIUI, the base package does not have any of the gl screensavers so that > is avoided. The extras and gl-extras are just that -- additional > screensavers that some might want. > > I believe there was also a security issue with some of the extras > screensavers in that they would actually display what was on the desktop > while using sections of the display as puzzle pieces or morphing them. > The ability had to be available to NOT allow that type of screensaver > for organizations with high security requirements. Separating the > packages simplifies that. There is no shortcomings with the xscreensaver program being split into three packages. The issue is with the introduction of gnome-screensaver which is poorly configurable. (Blank screen, one screensaver, disabled or every single screensaver that is available.) This limits the ability to choose to disable screensavers from a selection menu which are completely undesirable, have a potential security risk by showing items which are visible if the screensaver was not active. Adding configurability and little "ratings" icons to the gnome-screensaver configurator would be alright to have,(Security Risk,known Video problems,you really don't want this and on!) Not having the ability to control and decide which screensavers you want displayed or disabled via gnome-screensaver is no good at all. Releasing such a poorly configurable program is not a valuable choice. Jim > > >>Is this a bug? >> >>Regards, >>Dariusz > > -- Well fix that in the next (upgrade, update, patch release, service pack). From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Mon Feb 27 03:44:39 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:44:39 -0500 Subject: Shutdown does not power off system In-Reply-To: <20060226181122.60859.qmail@web30212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060226181122.60859.qmail@web30212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <440275A7.6070903@insight.rr.com> Leslie Satenstein wrote: > Is it a bug(let). > > I installed Core5 Test3 with most defaults, but all packages. The > kernal is not the normal one, as others have attested. However, when I > initiate a shutdown, the software proceeds to shutdown, with the final > console message to power off. > > With previous versions of Core, power off of the pc did occur. In fact, > I make use of this working power off to issue the shutdown command in > the crontab. > > Did I miss a configurable parameter? > > Leslie in Montreal > I add acpi=on in the kernel argument line to be safe in case acpi is ever disabled in the kernel. I believe there are similar problems for apm only computers needing apm specific lines in the boot parameters. Also, there might be a kernel bug that hits your hardware and its ability to poweroff successfully. This problem effected a lot of people during previous test phases and even within the next release. Search for bugs related to poweroff in bugzilla. There should be quite a few old entries and a bit for current release and rawhide. Jim -- Well fix that in the next (upgrade, update, patch release, service pack). From hugh at mimosa.com Mon Feb 27 03:53:59 2006 From: hugh at mimosa.com (D. Hugh Redelmeier) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:53:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: about to test FC5T3 Message-ID: I just downloaded FC5T3 for x86_64 via bittorrent. Being paranoid, I'd have liked to find the hash values via another patch. For example, the announcements. In my search, I found http://fedora.redhat.com/download/test.html It is *very* stale -- FC4T3! It has sha1sums. It should be updated to FC5T3. Here is the content of FC5-test3-DVD-x86_64/SHA1SUM. It is signed by the Fedora Project key (found in /usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora), not the Fedora Project (Test Software) key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 6ea66dca5b33fc68408c355de610242aa4815b22 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-rescuecd.iso b46f4b752346e8e2dbdaf3e5c638b6eb531efe53 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc1.iso 2d9a50155d2540f59c4868b5f391284e029f2a74 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc2.iso 9cdf606d8dcb41b4aae6d01dcd8039cab39d6102 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-DVD.iso 6d6888600e3285b1c6ec7e367ab7db9644d9894c FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc3.iso 298ece776d6cb0ad9971be18ec6fd7fdb758230a FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc4.iso 6d1bebf6368db57cb34b04c410d0ab2c0b3eba56 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc5.iso -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD9VgutEJp0E8qb9IRAh/iAJ9CIn966X2kmyNIk7ON1C5N4GNaBACeJzju uleAUd7VQNE4kN1GquBcmH0= =CE+k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From miles.lane at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 06:03:26 2006 From: miles.lane at gmail.com (Miles Lane) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 01:03:26 -0500 Subject: Today's Rawhide -- avc: denied { read } for pid=359 comm="hostname" name="ld.so.cache" dev=hda6 ino=1015707 scontext=system_u:system_r:hostname_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file Message-ID: audit(1140978522.164:2): avc: denied { read } for pid=359 comm="hostname" name="ld.so.cache" dev=hda6 ino=1015707 scontext=system_u:system_r:hostname_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file audit(1140978523.344:3): avc: denied { read } for pid=377 comm="hwclock" name="ld.so.cache" dev=hda6 ino=1015707 scontext=system_u:system_r:hwclock_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file audit(1140996531.465:4): avc: denied { read } for pid=1105 comm="hostname" name="ld.so.cache" dev=hda6 ino=1015707 scontext=system_u:system_r:hostname_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file From grgoffe at yahoo.com Mon Feb 27 06:35:19 2006 From: grgoffe at yahoo.com (George R Goffe) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:35:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: The upgrade path from fc5-t2 to fc5-t3 Message-ID: <20060227063519.79703.qmail@web53105.mail.yahoo.com> Howdy, I am considering trying this but thought I'd ask the group if it's been tested and/or if anyone is interested in my results. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ivg2 at cornell.edu Mon Feb 27 06:42:19 2006 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 01:42:19 -0500 Subject: Today's Rawhide -- avc: denied { read } for pid=359 comm="hostname" name="ld.so.cache" dev=hda6 ino=1015707 scontext=system_u:system_r:hostname_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44029F4B.7050007@cornell.edu> > audit(1140978522.164:2): avc: denied { read } for pid=359 > comm="hostname" name="ld.so.cache" dev=hda6 ino=1015707 > scontext=system_u:system_r:hostname_t:s0 > tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t:s0 tclass=file > This denial is caused by mislabeled ld.so.cache, which should be of type ld_so_cache_t. Have you recently disabled selinux, without relabeling afterwards? Every time selinux is disabled, you need to relabel the filesystem.To avoid having to do so, use enforcing = 0 instead. From ivg2 at cornell.edu Mon Feb 27 06:52:32 2006 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 01:52:32 -0500 Subject: The upgrade path from fc5-t2 to fc5-t3 In-Reply-To: <20060227063519.79703.qmail@web53105.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060227063519.79703.qmail@web53105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4402A1B0.6020202@cornell.edu> George R Goffe wrote: > Howdy, > > I am considering trying this but thought I'd ask the group if it's > been tested and/or if anyone is interested in my results. > I'm pretty sure this is unsupported... That said, the only reason I haven't upgraded all the way from RH9 is that my hard drive died, and I corrupted the partition table a few times. The real fun comes when upgrading from x86 to x86_64. Having done that, I suggest nobody else tries it, it is rather painful. From mefoster at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 07:56:42 2006 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:56:42 +0100 Subject: Are mouse gestures permanently enabled? In-Reply-To: <440243EC.7090304@cogeco.ca> References: <440243EC.7090304@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: On 27/02/06, Fulko Hew wrote: > All this sounds like 'mouse gestures' to me, so I went into > the KDE Control Center, and disabled 'gestures' in: Actually, I think it's probably to do with the default configuration of your touchpad; annoyingly, it's set up by default to send scroll events on certain types of drags. To disable it -- I always do -- you need to edit xorg.conf and change the VertScrollDelta and HorzScrollDelta settings to 0. Some people apparently like this, but I always find it more trouble than it's worth. MEF -- Mary Ellen Foster http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ From dmutters at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 08:14:30 2006 From: dmutters at gmail.com (Dane Mutters) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 00:14:30 -0800 Subject: eth0 ceases to function after reboot on FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <44015DE9.6060500@bigpond.net.au> References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602252138.21192.dmutters@gmail.com> <44015DE9.6060500@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <200602270014.30999.dmutters@gmail.com> On Saturday 25 February 2006 11:51 pm, David Timms wrote: > Dane Mutters wrote: > > On Saturday 25 February 2006 07:22 pm, David Timms wrote: > > ... > > > I installed Xen so that I could experiment with it. I haven't yet done > > anything with it, although I would like to leave it on in case I decide > > to (this being a testing machine). > > http://www.google.com.au/search?q=linux+eth0+mac+address+wrong+FE:FF:FF:FF: >FF:FF&hl=en&lr=&start=20&sa=N > http://bugzilla.xensource.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=471 > - it's a bit different - the xen part is getting the weird mac, but eth0 > is OK. > Looks like some serious config is required for xen, I think fedoranews > or one of those sites has an intro page. > > I'd be interested to see if removing (temporarily) the xen stuff solves > the problem. This would definitely narrow down the possibilities ;) and > point to which component is applicable. > > DaveT. I've uninstalled Xen and the Hypervisor kernel, and installed the more standard Fedora kerner, and now it seems to work properly despite having the wrong MAC address. Also, Kudzu no longer segfaults. (I still wonder if the two are related...) Cheers! --Dane From buildsys at redhat.com Mon Feb 27 08:17:21 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 03:17:21 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060227 changes Message-ID: <200602270817.k1R8HK4Q008251@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Updated Packages: dasher-3.99.5-1 --------------- * Sun Feb 26 2006 Matthias Clasen - 3.99.5-1 - Update to 3.99.5 * Fri Feb 24 2006 Matthias Clasen 3.99.4-3 - Prereq: scrollkeeper * Mon Feb 20 2006 Karsten Hopp 3.99.4-2 - BuildRequires: libXtst-devel file-roller-2.13.91-2 --------------------- * Tue Feb 21 2006 Karsten Hopp 2.13.91-2 - BuildRequire: gnome-doc-utils gedit-1:2.13.92-1 ----------------- * Sun Feb 26 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 gnome-applets-1:2.13.90-1 ------------------------- * Sun Feb 26 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.90-1 - Update to 2.13.90 gnome-power-manager-2.13.92-1 ----------------------------- * Sun Feb 26 2006 Ray Strode - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 gnome-speech-0.3.9-3 -------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 John (J5) Palmieri - 0.3.9-3 - Revert back to devel package and enable the bonobo build * Thu Feb 23 2006 John (J5) Palmieri - 0.3.9-2 - Get rid of devel package - .so now available to bonobo gtk2-2.8.13-1 ------------- * Sat Feb 25 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.8.13-1 - Update to 2.8.13 * Fri Feb 24 2006 Ray Strode - 2.8.12-8 - add dependency on hicolor * Sat Feb 11 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.8.12-7.1 - Update to 2.8.12 gtk2-engines-2.7.4-3 -------------------- * Sun Feb 26 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.7.4-3 - Fix memory leaks in the Clearlooks engine mc-1:4.6.1a-8 ------------- * Sat Feb 25 2006 Jindrich Novy 4.6.1a-8 - make mc FHS compliant: store config files in /etc/mc and extfs/*.ini files in /etc/mc/extfs instead of /usr/share/mc (#2188) - the oldest open Red Hat bug is now gone ;) - fix warnings openssh-4.3p2-3 --------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Tomas Mraz - 4.3p2-3 - enable the subprocess in chroot to send messages to system log - sshd should prevent login if audit call fails pango-1.11.99-1 --------------- * Sun Feb 26 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.11.99-1 - Update to 1.11.99 * Tue Feb 21 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.11.6-1 - Upate to 1.11.6 - Drop upstreamed patches vte-0.11.20-1.fc5.1 ------------------- * Sun Feb 26 2006 Matthias Clasen 0.11.20-1 - Update to 0.11.20 Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.i386 requires libopenobex.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.i386 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.i386 requires tomcat4 Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.ia64 requires libopenobex.so.1()(64bit) rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ia64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ia64 requires tomcat4 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.ppc requires libopenobex.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc requires tomcat4 Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.ppc64 requires libopenobex.so.1()(64bit) struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.ppc64 requires tomcat4 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390 requires tomcat4 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390x requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.s390x requires tomcat4 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.i386 requires libopenobex.so.1 libbtctl - 0.6.0-5.x86_64 requires libopenobex.so.1()(64bit) struts-webapps-tomcat3 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.x86_64 requires tomcat3 struts-webapps-tomcat4 - 1.2.8-2jpp_8fc.x86_64 requires tomcat4 From pemboa at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 08:38:43 2006 From: pemboa at gmail.com (Arthur Pemberton) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 02:38:43 -0600 Subject: New tester Message-ID: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> I have just setup a machine solely for the purpose of testing, I shall append the specs to this post. For now, I have yummed to updates-released, adn then updates-testing. What do I do as a tester? I have no familiarity with the processs, just the will to help. Dell - OptiPlex GX110 Intel Pentium III Processor: 733 MHz (133MHz Bus Speed) BIOS Version: A09 Harddrive: WDC WD200BB-75AUA1 (20 GB) CD-ROW: Samsung CD-ROM SC-148F (48x) Soundcard: Intel ICH82801AA VGA: Intel 82810E DC-133 CGC Ethernet: 3Com 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] RAM: 256 MB SDRAM PC-100 -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 27 08:43:16 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:13:16 +0530 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4402BBA4.4090205@fedoraproject.org> Arthur Pemberton wrote: >I have just setup a machine solely for the purpose of testing, I shall >append the specs to this post. For now, I have yummed to updates-released, >adn then updates-testing. What do I do as a tester? I have no familiarity >with the processs, just the will to help. > > Which version of Fedora is this?. You can check updates from updates-testing repository and provide feedback. On a more active phase, bug triaging would be a useful thing to do. Check out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers -- Rahul From pemboa at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 08:55:29 2006 From: pemboa at gmail.com (Arthur Pemberton) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 02:55:29 -0600 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <4402BBA4.4090205@fedoraproject.org> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> <4402BBA4.4090205@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <16de708d0602270055g7aca8d2dsac16156e92a9aaee@mail.gmail.com> On 2/27/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > >I have just setup a machine solely for the purpose of testing, I shall > >append the specs to this post. For now, I have yummed to > updates-released, > >adn then updates-testing. What do I do as a tester? I have no familiarity > >with the processs, just the will to help. > > > > > Which version of Fedora is this?. Started of with FC4 cds. You can check updates from > updates-testing repository and provide feedback. 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URL: From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Feb 27 09:10:15 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:10:15 +0100 Subject: FC5 Test 3 can't even boot In-Reply-To: <44023C4F.5040009@cogeco.ca> References: <44023C4F.5040009@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <4402C1F7.5090802@gmx.de> On 27.02.2006 00:39, Fulko Hew wrote: > After researching these symptoms on the isolinux mailing list > (http://syslinux.zytor.com/archives/): > > "Unknown keyword in config file", and > "Could not find kernel image" [...] > ...When you enter 'linux' during the install bootstrap time, > it sort of activates macros in Isolinux's config file that > effectively causes Isolinux to invoke: > > /isolinux/vmlinuz initrd=/isolinux/initrd.img > > By entering this manually at the 'boot:' prompt, > I could still boot off of both the CD and DVD > distribution media, and continue the installation process. [...] thanks, the absolute or relative path and all variants are here ok and i can boot and install fc5test3 boot: /isolinux/vmlinuz initrd=/isolinux/initrd.img boot: vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img boot: vmlinuz initrd=/isolinux/initrd.img boot: /isolinux/vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img i do not understand why the same bug exist several times and none is closed as duplicate https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182147 "FC5T3 i386 won't boot on Emachines T5026" https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178143 "FC5T2 i386 won't boot on Emachines T5026" -- shrek-m From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Feb 27 10:07:21 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:07:21 +0100 Subject: about to test FC5T3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4402CF59.3000204@gmx.de> On 27.02.2006 04:53, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: >I just downloaded FC5T3 for x86_64 via bittorrent. Being paranoid, >I'd have liked to find the hash values via another patch. For >example, the announcements. > >In my search, I found http://fedora.redhat.com/download/test.html >It is *very* stale -- FC4T3! It has sha1sums. It should be updated >to FC5T3. > > :-) https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg01318.html As indicated in the frontpage of http://fedora.redhat.com, this site is deprecated. :-) http://fedora.redhat.com/ We are currently in the process of evaluating a transition of this website to fedoraproject.org . fedoraproject.org is a community website that is being revamped and has more content being actively added to it on a regular basis. Users and developers are encouraged to visit this website for information and regular updates. The Fedora Websites Team is discussing the transition and a new content management system to host our updated infrastructure. Anyone is welcome to join those discussions. Thank you for your interest in the Fedora Project. >Here is the content of FC5-test3-DVD-x86_64/SHA1SUM. It is signed by >the Fedora Project key (found in /usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora), >not the Fedora Project (Test Software) key. > > >Hash: SHA1 > >6ea66dca5b33fc68408c355de610242aa4815b22 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-rescuecd.iso >b46f4b752346e8e2dbdaf3e5c638b6eb531efe53 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc1.iso >2d9a50155d2540f59c4868b5f391284e029f2a74 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc2.iso >9cdf606d8dcb41b4aae6d01dcd8039cab39d6102 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-DVD.iso >6d6888600e3285b1c6ec7e367ab7db9644d9894c FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc3.iso >298ece776d6cb0ad9971be18ec6fd7fdb758230a FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc4.iso >6d1bebf6368db57cb34b04c410d0ab2c0b3eba56 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc5.iso > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/4.92/x86_64/iso/SHA1SUM 6ea66dca5b33fc68408c355de610242aa4815b22 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-rescuecd.iso b46f4b752346e8e2dbdaf3e5c638b6eb531efe53 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc1.iso 2d9a50155d2540f59c4868b5f391284e029f2a74 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc2.iso 9cdf606d8dcb41b4aae6d01dcd8039cab39d6102 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-DVD.iso 6d6888600e3285b1c6ec7e367ab7db9644d9894c FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc3.iso 298ece776d6cb0ad9971be18ec6fd7fdb758230a FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc4.iso 6d1bebf6368db57cb34b04c410d0ab2c0b3eba56 FC-5-Test3-x86_64-disc5.iso or http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html sorry, this site is deprecated :-) -- shrek-m From jos at xos.nl Mon Feb 27 10:16:37 2006 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:16:37 +0100 Subject: eth0 ceases to function after reboot on FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <200602261219.08870.dmutters@gmail.com>; from dmutters@gmail.com on Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 12:19:08PM -0800 References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602252138.21192.dmutters@gmail.com> <20060226103423.A13669@xos037.xos.nl> <200602261219.08870.dmutters@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060227111637.A23091@xos037.xos.nl> On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 12:19:08PM -0800, Dane Mutters wrote: > That fixed it! It now reports the MAC address of "00:04:5A:55:96:57". It > does look like it's at least somewhat hardware-related. The one question I > have, though, is why does this this card work with the wrong MAC address in > Knoppix, but not in Fedora? Could it have to do with Kudzu segfaulting? It's just flakyness, you probably see randomly the good or bad MAC address appearing after a reboot. After some day the card will only show the wrong MAC address (in our case at least two of these cards died definitively after an external power failure, I don't know why). -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Mon Feb 27 10:20:46 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:20:46 +0800 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4402D27E.5020008@herakles.homelinux.org> Arthur Pemberton wrote: >I have just setup a machine solely for the purpose of testing, I shall >append the specs to this post. For now, I have yummed to updates-released, >adn then updates-testing. What do I do as a tester? I have no familiarity >with the processs, just the will to help. > > > What do you intend to test? From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 27 10:45:54 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:15:54 +0530 Subject: The upgrade path from fc5-t2 to fc5-t3 In-Reply-To: <20060227063519.79703.qmail@web53105.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060227063519.79703.qmail@web53105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4402D862.5020300@fedoraproject.org> George R Goffe wrote: >Howdy, > >I am considering trying this but thought I'd ask the group if it's >been tested and/or if anyone is interested in my results. > >Regards and thanks for your time, > >George... > > You can just run yum update as root user or use Pup and you will get the latest development tree which is FC5 test 3+ updates. -- Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 27 10:50:33 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:20:33 +0530 Subject: eth0 ceases to function after reboot on FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <200602270014.30999.dmutters@gmail.com> References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602252138.21192.dmutters@gmail.com> <44015DE9.6060500@bigpond.net.au> <200602270014.30999.dmutters@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4402D979.4090000@fedoraproject.org> HI >I've uninstalled Xen and the Hypervisor kernel, and installed the more >standard Fedora kerner, and now it seems to work properly despite having the >wrong MAC address. Also, Kudzu no longer segfaults. (I still wonder if the >two are related...) > > Yes. It is related. A bug report has already been filed on this. Check the archives. -- Rahul From b.king at surrey.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 10:59:25 2006 From: b.king at surrey.ac.uk (Bevis R W King) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:59:25 +0000 Subject: Problems with NIS/YP and seemingly endless do_ypcall: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out Message-ID: <1141037965.2749.147.camel@ephiny.ee.surrey.ac.uk> Has anyone else seen a problem with NIS/YP on FC5test3 (x86_64 version, but probably generic) generating almost endless error messages of: do_ypcall: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out The weirdest part is that all the YP tools themselves respond almost instantly - as in ypwhich, ypcat, ypmatch - and can read all the maps I can think of. However, something simple like an ssh connect to a remote site comes back as: % ssh -l user remote.domain.co.uk do_ypcall: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out do_ypcall: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out do_ypcall: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out do_ypcall: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out do_ypcall: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out This system is out-of-the-box FC5t3 configured with an rpm of architecture independent config files that works perfectly on FC4. The only other addition is am-utils installed onto it in addition in order to access our fileserver maps. This was built from the source RPM that builds/works fine on FC4. Running an strace on it shows this cycle repeating almost endlessly - I switched off selinux in case it was screwing things up (I've substituted our real NIS server address with 192.168.0.10 in the logs for obvious security reasons): gettimeofday({1140790145, 273244}, NULL) = 0 socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_UDP) = 6 bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(680), sin_addr=inet_addr("0.0.0.0")}, 16) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) ioctl(6, FIONBIO, [1]) = 0 setsockopt(6, SOL_IP, IP_RECVERR, [1], 4) = 0 fcntl(6, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 close(5) = 0 sendto(6, "sB\223z\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\1\206\244\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\3\0\0"..., 96, 0, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(1023), sin_addr=inet_addr("192.168.0.10")}, 16) = 96 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}], 1, 5000) = 0 socket(PF_NETLINK, SOCK_RAW, 0) = 5 bind(5, {sa_family=AF_NETLINK, pid=0, groups=00000000}, 12) = 0 getsockname(5, {sa_family=AF_NETLINK, pid=17040, groups=00000000}, [17127303594660331532]) = 0 time(NULL) = 1140790150 sendto(5, "\24\0\0\0\22\0\1\3\206\23\377C\0\0\0\0\0\20\36\355", 20, 0, {sa_family=AF_NETLINK, pid=0, groups=00000000}, 12) = 20 recvmsg(5, {msg_name(12)={sa_family=AF_NETLINK, pid=0, groups=00000000}, msg_iov(1)=[{"\350\0\0\0\20\0\2\0\206\23\377C\220B\0\0\0\0\4\3\1\0 \0"..., 4096}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 700 recvmsg(5, {msg_name(12)={sa_family=AF_NETLINK, pid=0, groups=00000000}, msg_iov(1)=[{"\24\0\0\0\3\0\2\0\206\23\377C\220B\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0 \0"..., 4096}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 20 sendto(5, "\24\0\0\0\26\0\1\3\207\23\377C\0\0\0\0\0\20\36\355", 20, 0, {sa_family=AF_NETLINK, pid=0, groups=00000000}, 12) = 20 recvmsg(5, {msg_name(12)={sa_family=AF_NETLINK, pid=0, groups=00000000}, msg_iov(1)=[{"<\0\0\0\24\0\2\0\207\23\377C\220B\0\0\2\10\200\376\1 \0"..., 4096}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 128 recvmsg(5, {msg_name(12)={sa_family=AF_NETLINK, pid=0, groups=00000000}, msg_iov(1)=[{"@\0\0\0\24\0\2\0\207\23\377C\220B\0\0\n\200\200\376\1 \0"..., 4096}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 128 recvmsg(5, {msg_name(12)={sa_family=AF_NETLINK, pid=0, groups=00000000}, msg_iov(1)=[{"\24\0\0\0\3\0\2\0\207\23\377C\220B\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0 \0"..., 4096}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 20 brk(0x5555556e3000) = 0x5555556e3000 close(5) = 0 brk(0x5555556e2000) = 0x5555556e2000 sendto(6, "sB\223z\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\1\206\244\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\3\0\0"..., 96, 0, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(1023), sin_addr=inet_addr("192.168.0.10")}, 16) = 96 poll( Any thoughts on this? Regards, Bevis. From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr Mon Feb 27 11:01:21 2006 From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Rakotomandimby Mihamina) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:01:21 +0100 Subject: python bindings for RPM documentation Message-ID: <1141038081.2852.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, What is the ML to subscribe to, to discuss abouut python RPM bindings? There has been: http://www.redhat.com/archives/rpm-list/2000-August/msg00256.html But it is quite old now, and may be things have changed. My goal is to install-remove a RPM with only python, no shell script. Obviously, I will try to write a kind of documentation (tutorial or "long documentation") if I succeed. -- A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source & GPL). Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better. http://www.cps-project.org for downloads & documentation. From redtux1 at googlemail.com Mon Feb 27 11:12:27 2006 From: redtux1 at googlemail.com (Mike Martin) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:12:27 +0000 Subject: Issues with test 3 Message-ID: Hi I installed test 3 last night and I have the following issues 1. Bash scripts not picking up varaiable eg: this (very simple) script ffmpeg -i $2 -b $1 $3 when run results in a message from ffmpeg about io error (no file) 2. Naulitlus burn gives no chance to change burn speed 3. On an exiting user account menu entries are sparse (ie some installed apps missing) From anyweb at hotmail.com Mon Feb 27 10:58:57 2006 From: anyweb at hotmail.com (any web) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:58:57 +0000 Subject: Are mouse gestures permanently enabled? In-Reply-To: <20060227081730.26537733B5@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: hi if you edit your xorg.conf you'll probably see a section in there called synaptics if you rem it out like so # InputDevice "Synaptics" "CorePointer" # Load "synaptics" and restart X you might now see the problem has disappeared, i've noticed this also on the last few releases of Fedora on my notebooks, cheers anyweb http://linux-noob.com _________________________________________________________________ Find Irish and international info fast with MSN Search! http://search.msn.ie/ From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon Feb 27 12:00:13 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:00:13 +0100 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4402E9CD.5000109@gmx.de> On 27.02.2006 09:38, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > I have just setup a machine solely for the purpose of testing, I shall > append the specs to this post. For now, I have yummed to > updates-released, adn then updates-testing. What do I do as a tester? > I have no familiarity with the processs, just the will to help. you should know https://bugzilla.redhat.com you should have a lot of time and a good internet-connection you should have a good lug=linux user group you should know how to quote you should not be a mimosa you should know rpm, vi, rescue mode, askmethod, interactive mode, runlevel 3, ... in other words = how to help yourself you should have a good social environment or a lot of beer your family/friends should not fall in panic if you are disappeared for several days behind the internet, bugzilla, man-pages, ... do not try to explain your windows-users-friends what you are doing and why you prefer linux over windows do not try to explain your doctor why you do not know the so called real time, real date, your real name, real actual news, ... you should not ask yourself why you are spending such a lot of time for and with linux for free you should always have a plan to go back in the so called normal life but ... what do you want to test ? - older releases see http://fedoralegacy.org/ rhl7.3 updates rhl9 updates fc1 updates fc2 updates fc3 updates - actual release updates fc4 updates testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ - new release fc5test3 http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/4.92/ + development http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ ==> fc5 and later fc5 updates testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/5/ - rawhide / development http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ - next release fc6 ? http://fedora.redhat.com/About/schedule/ fc6 test releaeses fc6test1 ? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/5.90/ fc6test2 ? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/5.91/ fc6test3 ? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/5.92/ ... -- shrek-m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 27 12:03:11 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:33:11 +0530 Subject: Are mouse gestures permanently enabled? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4402EA7F.1000400@fedoraproject.org> any web wrote: > hi > > if you edit your xorg.conf you'll probably see a section in there > called synaptics > > if you rem it out like so > > # InputDevice "Synaptics" "CorePointer" > # Load "synaptics" > > and restart X you might now see the problem has disappeared, Can you file a bug report on this? -- Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 27 12:09:55 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:39:55 +0530 Subject: Issues with test 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4402EC13.7000606@fedoraproject.org> Mike Martin wrote: >Hi > >I installed test 3 last night and I have the following issues > >1. Bash scripts not picking up varaiable eg: > >this (very simple) script > >ffmpeg -i $2 -b $1 $3 > >when run results in a message from ffmpeg about io error (no file) > > An example with an application that is available on the default Fedora repositories would be helpful. >2. Naulitlus burn gives no chance to change burn speed > > It is set to maximum possible and disabled?. If so I can confirm this. Do file a bug report >3. On an exiting user account menu entries are sparse (ie some >installed apps missing) > > > Which ones? Do they provide a .desktop file?. Check if the packages have a post installation script which runs update-desktop-database. rpm -q --scripts would show you that. -- Rahul From w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk Mon Feb 27 11:40:32 2006 From: w.j.murray at rl.ac.uk (William John Murray) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:40:32 +0000 Subject: NFS install of FC5 T3 Message-ID: <1141040432.3806.13.camel@BillMurray> Hello there, I am confused by the NFS install procedure. I have done it on two machines, with mixed impressions. In each case the host ran FC4. For the first one, I am 99% sure all I did was copy all 6 iso images into a directory, NFS serve that, and start a second machine installing using 1 CD. And it worked. For the second, I tried the same, and it said the directory did not contain a Fedora installation. So I read the README, which says to unpack the iso files. I really don't think I did that the first time, but never mind. Done. The installation started, then complained there was no 'repomd' information. So I copied that as well - but if it is needed it should be in the README. Which is correct? Am I dreaming that unpacking the ISO was not needed? Bill From mefoster at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 12:15:52 2006 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:15:52 +0100 Subject: Are mouse gestures permanently enabled? In-Reply-To: <4402EA7F.1000400@fedoraproject.org> References: <4402EA7F.1000400@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 27/02/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > any web wrote: > > if you edit your xorg.conf you'll probably see a section in there > > called synaptics > > > > if you rem it out like so > > > > # InputDevice "Synaptics" "CorePointer" > > # Load "synaptics" > > > > and restart X you might now see the problem has disappeared, > > Can you file a bug report on this? I don't think that commenting out the whole Synaptics section of xorg.conf is the way to go; there are other features of the Synaptics driver that are actually useful. as I said in my previous message, in my experience you can disable this annoying drag-scroll feature by just changing the value of {Vert,Horz}ScrollDelta to 0. Don't know if that's bug-worthy. MEF -- Mary Ellen Foster http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ From robert.chiodini-1 at ksc.nasa.gov Mon Feb 27 12:27:34 2006 From: robert.chiodini-1 at ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:27:34 -0500 Subject: NFS install of FC5 T3 In-Reply-To: <1141040432.3806.13.camel@BillMurray> References: <1141040432.3806.13.camel@BillMurray> Message-ID: <1141043254.17946.8.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 11:40 +0000, William John Murray wrote: > Hello there, > I am confused by the NFS install procedure. I have done > it on two machines, with mixed impressions. In each case the host ran > FC4. > For the first one, I am 99% sure all I did was copy all 6 iso images > into a directory, NFS serve that, and start a second machine installing > using 1 CD. And it worked. > > For the second, I tried the same, and it said the directory did not > contain a Fedora installation. So I read the README, which says to > unpack the iso files. I really don't think I did that the first time, > but never mind. Done. The installation started, then complained there > was no 'repomd' information. So I copied that as well - but if it is > needed it should be in the README. > > Which is correct? Am I dreaming that unpacking the ISO was not needed? > Bill > Bill, I used the DVD ISO, not unpacked, for an NFS install here. FC4 was my NFS server as well. Not answering your question, just a data point. Bob... From redtux1 at googlemail.com Mon Feb 27 12:32:21 2006 From: redtux1 at googlemail.com (Mike Martin) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:32:21 +0000 Subject: Issues with test 3 In-Reply-To: <4402EC13.7000606@fedoraproject.org> References: <4402EC13.7000606@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 2/27/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Mike Martin wrote: > > >Hi > > > >I installed test 3 last night and I have the following issues > > > >1. Bash scripts not picking up varaiable eg: > > > >this (very simple) script > > > >ffmpeg -i $2 -b $1 $3 > > > >when run results in a message from ffmpeg about io error (no file) > > > > > An example with an application that is available on the default Fedora > repositories would be helpful. > will have a look when I get home > >2. Naulitlus burn gives no chance to change burn speed > > > > > It is set to maximum possible and disabled?. If so I can confirm this. > Do file a bug report > bug 183195 > >3. On an exiting user account menu entries are sparse (ie some > >installed apps missing) > > > > > > > Which ones? Do they provide a .desktop file?. Check if the packages have > a post installation script which runs update-desktop-database. rpm -q > --scripts would show you that. > > two examples that spring to mind are rhythmbox and gimp. On my root account these show up, but not as my user account on home > -- > Rahul > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Mon Feb 27 12:36:24 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:36:24 -0500 Subject: python bindings for RPM documentation In-Reply-To: <1141038081.2852.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1141038081.2852.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1141043784.1723.32.camel@cutter> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 12:01 +0100, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > Hi, > What is the ML to subscribe to, to discuss abouut python RPM bindings? > There has been: > http://www.redhat.com/archives/rpm-list/2000-August/msg00256.html > But it is quite old now, and may be things have changed. > > My goal is to install-remove a RPM with only python, no shell script. > Obviously, I will try to write a kind of documentation (tutorial or > "long documentation") if I succeed. > -- https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/rpm-python-list You realize that yum does what you're asking about now, right? -sv From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 27 13:03:10 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:33:10 +0530 Subject: Issues with test 3 In-Reply-To: References: <4402EC13.7000606@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4402F88E.1010904@fedoraproject.org> Hi >>It is set to maximum possible and disabled?. If so I can confirm this. >>Do file a bug report >> >> >> > >bug 183195 > > Thanks. >>> >>> >>Which ones? Do they provide a .desktop file?. Check if the packages have >>a post installation script which runs update-desktop-database. rpm -q >>--scripts would show you that. >> >> >> >> > >two examples that spring to mind are rhythmbox and gimp. > >On my root account these show up, but not as my user account on home > > Works fine here. Applications => Sound & Video = Rhythm Box Music Player and Applications => Graphics => The Gimp. -- Rahul From mharris at mharris.ca Mon Feb 27 13:09:21 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:09:21 -0500 Subject: man pages for GLUT? In-Reply-To: <8767947e0602261325x2c22d9e2l20362d9112fcc28f@mail.gmail.com> References: <8767947e0602251903m7cf66b00i4035dae616833566@mail.gmail.com> <44016D22.4050208@mharris.ca> <8767947e0602261325x2c22d9e2l20362d9112fcc28f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4402FA01.1040909@mharris.ca> Jonathan Berry wrote: >>>I've noticed that there is some HTML documentation included with the >> >> > Fedora rpm, but nothing quite as helpful as man pages. If there >> > are not any licencing issues with the man pages (could there be?), >> > would it be possible for the Fedora rpms to include these? >> > I have no idea where they come from. >> >>If there are GLUT manpages which are licensed under a proper OSI >>approved OSS license, once the author of them submits them to the >>freeglut project, they will probably appear in a future release of >>freeglut. >> >>Study the SuSE src.rpm and determine where the manpages they allegedly >>ship actually come from, and try to find a license for them. >> >>Another option is for someone to volunteer to write manpages for >>freeglut from scratch and submit them to the freeglut project. > > Well, after some digging, this is what I have found out. The > freeglut-2.4.0-4.src.rpm from (Open) SuSE 10 (can be found here: > ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/suse/src/ > ) contains a glutman.tar.bz2 with the GLUT man pages. I could find > nothing that indicated where the man pages came from. Some google > work turned up a site from SGI which had "freeware" packages on it, > including a GLUT package. It appears the man pages have been > extracted from the glut-3.7.tar.gz source tarball from this site: > http://freeware.sgi.com/source/ I have not been able to find anything > that looks definitive on a license. The best I could find is the > NOTICE file in the glut-3.7.tar.gz tarball: > > NOTICE: The OpenGL Utility Toolkit (GLUT) distribution contains source > code published in a book titled "Programming OpenGL for the X Window > System" (ISBN: 0-201-48359-9) published by Addison-Wesley. The > programs and associated files contained in the distribution were > developed by Mark J. Kilgard and are Copyright 1994, 1995, 1996 by Mark > J. Kilgard (unless otherwise noted). The programs are not in the > public domain, but they are freely distributable without licensing > fees. These programs are provided without guarantee or warrantee > expressed or implied. The original GLUT library is written by Mark J. Kilgard, who is still currently the copyright owner. The license of the GLUT source code does not permit modification and redistribution of the modified sources, and as such it is not OSI approved open source software. Several years ago, we became aware of this licensing issue and contacted Mark via email to try to find an amiable solution for the licensing problem. Unfortunately, Mark is quite adamant about current license which GLUT is released under, and is not willing to relicense it under a proper OSI approved license. Perhaps what is worse than that however, is that he doesn't want to be bothered by anyone about any kind of legal issues. He considers GLUT a "done" thing, and if people want to use it as-is, that's fine with him. If people don't like the license, that's their problem essentially. This created a problem for us, because the GLUT sources contain various bugs, as well as a few security vulnerabilities. Since the license does not permit us to modify the code and distribute the resulting code and binaries, we would be unable to support it properly, and the decision was made to remove it from the distribution. I did a bit of research and discovered the freeglut project, which at the time was still quite experimental. We included one of the experimental versions of freeglut in one OS release, with the plan of updating it once the official stable release of freeglut came out. Since then, we have shipped freeglut in each OS release, and haven't seen many problems reported, so it seems to have been a good decision overall. Another project out there, which is a friendly-fork of freeglut called "openglut" exists as well. The two projects contribute code back and forth, and IIRC use similar licenses. So there are at least 3 GLUT implementations in existence, and 2 of them are open source. One of the preconditions that must be met in order for something to be included in Fedora Core (or Extras), is that it has to be licensed under an OSI approved open source license, and GLUT does not meet this requirement. That includes the official GLUT manpages. > Apparently, OpenSuSE feels they can include these man pages with their > freeglut package. Anyone have any thoughts on this? SuSE has different criterion for inclusion of software into their OS than Red Hat does. They've even shipped proprietary video drivers in their OS before. Theoretically, we could ship proprietary software, or non-OSS software with Fedora Core too, if the Fedora Project considered it acceptable to do so. We do not consider it acceptable to do so however. Another side that must be considered to any potential software inclusion in any OS, are legal issues. Fedora has legal policies which must be adhered to, and all legal matters that arise, including issues with regard to copyrights, patents, trademarks, and other intellectual property, must be submitted through legal counsel who has the final say. If legal counsel decides that we should not ship something - for whatever reason, then we simply do not ship it. Other distributions may or may not take legal matters as seriously as Red Hat and the Fedora Foundation do. Of course, that is their own choice to decide, and their own legal risks to make. Every distribution has to seek their own legal advice and make their own decisions based on that advice. Having said that, SuSE has always traditionally been a mixture of open source and non-OSS software. I'm not aware of what their current philosophy is, but ours is to not ship non-OSS software, including documentation. The GLUT license does not prohibit SuSE nor Red Hat from shipping the source/binaries/manpages. It prohibits modification and redistribution of the modified results. That may be acceptable to SuSE, but it is unacceptable to Red Hat. If people care strongly about having freeglut manpages, join the freeglut (or openglut) projects, and volunteer to write manpages from scratch so that they are included in a future release of freeglut. Do not use the official GLUT manpages as a source however. Hope this clarifies things. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Mon Feb 27 13:11:49 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:11:49 +0000 Subject: Test request [Was: Re: FC5T3 freeze (x86_64 + NVidia 6600)] In-Reply-To: <43FF8F37.9050904@yahoo.co.uk> References: <43FE10FB.5020303@yahoo.co.uk> <43FED815.7010008@mharris.ca> <43FF5CFB.1040300@yahoo.co.uk> <43FF8F37.9050904@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <4402FA95.3060506@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/24/2006 10:56 PM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 02/24/2006 07:22 PM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> On 02/24/2006 09:55 AM, Mike A. Harris wrote: >>> Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >>>> What info can help solve this issue (I have collected some logs)? >>>> Against what should I file a bug? >>> >>> Best thing to do with any/all "nv" driver bugs is file a bug report >>> at: http://bugs.freedesktop.org in the xorg product, >>> component "nVidia (open)" >>> >>> That goes straight to Aaron Plattner from Nvidia, who is currently >>> maintaining the open source nv driver (along with Mark V.) >>> >>> Hope this helps. >> >> Thanks Mike! Bug submitted: >> >> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032 > > BTW: should I also file a "tracking" bug at http://bugzilla.redhat.com, > Product Fedora Core, Version fc5test3 since it affects FC5T3? "Tracker" bug for Fedora: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183110 If you run Nvidia open source driver with any 6600 series card can you please test if the following screensavers do or do not crash your system? Warning: this really may *freeze* your machine! I found that these cause total hang up on my dual core x86_64: Lorenz Atractor - crash in seconds Julia - crash in a second Fade Plot - crash in a second Discrete - crash in minutes Hopalong - crash in seconds If it does crash please update https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032 with relevant information plus result of "lspci -vn" and Xorg log file. If you find any other screensavers that cause this problem please update this bug too. Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From mharris at mharris.ca Mon Feb 27 13:13:29 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:13:29 -0500 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <1140990050.18065.0.camel@ender> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> <200602261133.05636.dennis@ausil.us> <8767947e0602261336g5f249f2br647c319579ec11e6@mail.gmail.com> <1140990050.18065.0.camel@ender> Message-ID: <4402FAF9.3070405@mharris.ca> Jesse Keating wrote: > On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 15:36 -0600, Jonathan Berry wrote: > >>Why is this not the default queryformat for x86_64? It would cut down >>on a lot of confusion and noise for those new to the x86_64 platform. >>And I do not see what it would hurt to make it default in all cases if >>it complicates things to make it default for only x86_64. It's fairly >>simple to add this to your .rpmmacros, but the people who will know to >>do this will already know about the dual-arch stuff. > > > Because changing the expected output of rpm -q is a bad bad thing. > Don't do that. Of course people shouldn't be screen scraping the output > or relying on it w/out doing their own --qf for ensured stability, > people do anyway, and we'd rather not break all their scripts. For FC5 I agree with that of course, since we're nearing the end of the FC5 devel cycle. Once FC6 development begins however, it would be a prime time to make this change to rpm in rawhide so that everyone who relies on the current behaviour will have plenty of time to fix their scripts. Then, if it appears there are still a lot of broken scripts out there as FC6 nears, we can change it back to the current query results for FC6, and then re-change it for FC7 development. The end goal being a migration from what it reports now, to what we would like it to report in the future, with plenty of time for people to fix broken scripts that don't formulate their own --qf queries. This allows forward progress, while minimizing problems, and providing a migration path. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Mon Feb 27 13:19:25 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:19:25 -0500 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <4402FAF9.3070405@mharris.ca> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> <200602261133.05636.dennis@ausil.us> <8767947e0602261336g5f249f2br647c319579ec11e6@mail.gmail.com> <1140990050.18065.0.camel@ender> <4402FAF9.3070405@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <1141046365.1723.46.camel@cutter> > For FC5 I agree with that of course, since we're nearing the end of the > FC5 devel cycle. Once FC6 development begins however, it would be a > prime time to make this change to rpm in rawhide so that everyone who > relies on the current behaviour will have plenty of time to fix their > scripts. > > Then, if it appears there are still a lot of broken scripts out there as > FC6 nears, we can change it back to the current query results for FC6, > and then re-change it for FC7 development. > > The end goal being a migration from what it reports now, to what we > would like it to report in the future, with plenty of time for people > to fix broken scripts that don't formulate their own --qf queries. > > This allows forward progress, while minimizing problems, and providing > a migration path. Alternatively, we could discourage the use of rpm as a command itself and push people toward using repoquery. repoquery acts on local rpmdb's as much as repositories. and repoquery's default format is: name-epoch:ver-rel.arch -sv From alan at redhat.com Mon Feb 27 13:29:34 2006 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:29:34 -0500 Subject: eth0 ceases to function after reboot on FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <20060227111637.A23091@xos037.xos.nl> References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602252138.21192.dmutters@gmail.com> <20060226103423.A13669@xos037.xos.nl> <200602261219.08870.dmutters@gmail.com> <20060227111637.A23091@xos037.xos.nl> Message-ID: <20060227132934.GC3004@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 11:16:37AM +0100, Jos Vos wrote: > show the wrong MAC address (in our case at least two of these cards > died definitively after an external power failure, I don't know why). Usually eeprom corruption. In some cases you'll the find the vendor disks or for 3com the Becker tool can recover them by writing new eeprom data From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 27 13:32:01 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:02:01 +0530 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <4402FAF9.3070405@mharris.ca> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> <200602261133.05636.dennis@ausil.us> <8767947e0602261336g5f249f2br647c319579ec11e6@mail.gmail.com> <1140990050.18065.0.camel@ender> <4402FAF9.3070405@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <4402FF51.1010008@fedoraproject.org> Hi Mike A. Harris wrote: > For FC5 I agree with that of course, since we're nearing the end of the > FC5 devel cycle. Once FC6 development begins however, it would be a > prime time to make this change to rpm in rawhide so that everyone who > relies on the current behaviour will have plenty of time to fix their > scripts. > > Then, if it appears there are still a lot of broken scripts out there as > FC6 nears, we can change it back to the current query results for FC6, > and then re-change it for FC7 development. > Filed a RFE based on this suggestion. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183202 -- Rahul From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Mon Feb 27 13:36:58 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:36:58 +0000 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <1141046365.1723.46.camel@cutter> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> <200602261133.05636.dennis@ausil.us> <8767947e0602261336g5f249f2br647c319579ec11e6@mail.gmail.com> <1140990050.18065.0.camel@ender> <4402FAF9.3070405@mharris.ca> <1141046365.1723.46.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <4403007A.3010103@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/27/2006 01:19 PM, seth vidal wrote: >> For FC5 I agree with that of course, since we're nearing the end of the >> FC5 devel cycle. Once FC6 development begins however, it would be a >> prime time to make this change to rpm in rawhide so that everyone who >> relies on the current behaviour will have plenty of time to fix their >> scripts. >> >> Then, if it appears there are still a lot of broken scripts out there as >> FC6 nears, we can change it back to the current query results for FC6, >> and then re-change it for FC7 development. >> >> The end goal being a migration from what it reports now, to what we >> would like it to report in the future, with plenty of time for people >> to fix broken scripts that don't formulate their own --qf queries. >> >> This allows forward progress, while minimizing problems, and providing >> a migration path. > > Alternatively, we could discourage the use of rpm as a command itself > and push people toward using repoquery. repoquery acts on local rpmdb's > as much as repositories. > > and repoquery's default format is: > name-epoch:ver-rel.arch Additionally a note in Release Notes in x86_64 specific part about it could go a long way as to prevent some confusion. One short paragraph that the x86_64 release contains some packages in two versions 32- and 64-bit and eventually how to query for them. It will not prevent all reports about duplicate packages but at least limit their number and also provide some educational/useful information. Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From david at fubar.dk Mon Feb 27 13:54:28 2006 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:54:28 -0500 Subject: The Latest Power Manager In-Reply-To: <44005036.1030805@partha.com> References: <44005036.1030805@partha.com> Message-ID: <1141048469.24050.18.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 07:40 -0500, Partha Bagchi wrote: > The latest power manager is competing with the previous one to be the > silliest one of all. It is getting sillier and sillier to use the piece > of abomination especially when it has no exit button, Does your file manager have an exit button? No.. > I do not (which > part of not is difficult to understand??) want to use it. Yes you do, but you probably don't know :-) - g-p-m also manages the display power (DPMS) in concert with gnome-screensaver... Also, in the event a user plugs in a UPS we want an icon to appear and g-p-m to manage it... Hence, we want this process running in the desktop session all the time.. > Now I have no > way of telling it to do nothing. Maybe if you looked a bit harder it is possible to configure g-p-m so it doesn't do anything.. (System->Prefs->More Prefs->Power Mgmt)... of course that doesn't mean that it's completely bug free.. > Unplugging the power puts it in suspend > mode immediately. That is a bug.. and I guess the one that upsets you.. I've been seeing that one too... did you file a bug so it will get fixed? > Considering that the wireless (Broadcom bcm43xx) is > not mature enough (starts with network disconnected balloon), it is an > immediate pain in the butt to reactivate it. Also, since the wireless is > built into the Kernel, no way to get rid of that one either!! > > Please give it a rest and include a button to exit from it so that I do > not have to 86 it every time I start the computer. BTW, in case it is > not clear, I am using this on a laptop. > > Sheesh! Thanks for your input. David From david at fubar.dk Mon Feb 27 13:58:48 2006 From: david at fubar.dk (David Zeuthen) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:58:48 -0500 Subject: Not privileged to mount CDs In-Reply-To: <20060226145255.eff33a55.paul@permanentmail.com> References: <20060226055927.76080dcf.paul@permanentmail.com> <200602261237.14360.linxt@comcast.net> <20060226145255.eff33a55.paul@permanentmail.com> Message-ID: <1141048729.24050.21.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 14:52 -0700, Paul Dickson wrote: > On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:37:14 -0800, Thomas Taylor wrote: > > > On Sunday 26 February 2006 04:59, Paul Dickson wrote: > > > When I place a non-blank CD in my CDROM drive, I get the message "You are > > > not privileged to mount the volume ''." > > > > > > What do I need to do to be privileged? > > > > > > This might be new as google doesn't find anything immediately relevant. > > > > > > -Paul > > > > Check "man fstab" for enteries in the fourth field. "user" should work for > > this. > > /dev/scd0 /media/cdrecorder auto pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed,user 0 0 > > Thanks for the idea, but it doesn't help. Try removing that line and it should actually work though it seems a bit backwards.. let us know.. (yes, gnome-mount uses hal to mount and (as a security measure) hal will refuse to mount if there is already an entry in the /etc/fstab file - regardless of whether they contain pamconsole and/or user. Looks like we should clean up after fstab-sync - some care to file a bug?). David From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Mon Feb 27 14:00:32 2006 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:00:32 -0500 Subject: Are mouse gestures permanently enabled? Message-ID: "Mary Ellen Foster" on 02/27/2006 02:56 AM briliantly responded with: > On 27/02/06, Fulko Hew wrote: > > All this sounds like 'mouse gestures' to me, so I went into > > the KDE Control Center, and disabled 'gestures' in: > > Actually, I think it's probably to do with the default configuration > of your touchpad; annoyingly, it's set up by default to send scroll > events on certain types of drags. To disable it -- I always do -- you > need to edit xorg.conf and change the VertScrollDelta and > HorzScrollDelta settings to 0. Thank you!!!!! Thats it. (And I think I like your solution better than disabling the whole Synaptic driver) Now that I know what to focus on, I found a wiki entry from Gentoo that describes some of these synaptic driver options http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad I'm going to examine this, and hopefully other docs, to see what needs to be (or can be) tweaked to get my touchpad back to working the way it did a few years ago. For example 'double-tap-drag' no longer works (ie. click'n-drag). > Some people apparently like this, but I always find it more trouble > than it's worth. Personally, I find it VERY aggravating when I go to move around on a web page, and all of a sudden the browser has now moved back 4 pages in history. Many thanks for your advise. Its save me from hurling my laptop out of a 15 story window. :-) From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr Mon Feb 27 14:05:48 2006 From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Rakotomandimby Mihamina) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:05:48 +0100 Subject: python bindings for RPM documentation In-Reply-To: <1141043784.1723.32.camel@cutter> References: <1141038081.2852.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1141043784.1723.32.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <1141049149.2852.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 07:36 -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > My goal is to install-remove a RPM with only python, no shell script. > You realize that yum does what you're asking about now, right? I am not good enough in python to check yum's source code. Yum does installation/removal through comand line: I dont want to manage it through _shell_ script, only through python one. I subscribed to the python rpm list. Thak you for the link. -- A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source & GPL). Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better. http://www.cps-project.org for downloads & documentation. From newsmail1 at hblok.net Mon Feb 27 14:08:08 2006 From: newsmail1 at hblok.net (Havard Rast Blok) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:08:08 +0100 (CET) Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15788.62.218.28.226.1141049288.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> > I have just setup a machine solely for the purpose of testing, I shall > append the specs to this post. For now, I have yummed to updates-released, > adn then updates-testing. What do I do as a tester? I have no familiarity > with the processs, just the will to help. > > Dell - OptiPlex GX110 > Intel Pentium III Processor: 733 MHz (133MHz Bus Speed) > BIOS Version: A09 > Harddrive: WDC WD200BB-75AUA1 (20 GB) > CD-ROW: Samsung CD-ROM SC-148F (48x) > Soundcard: Intel ICH82801AA > VGA: Intel 82810E DC-133 CGC > Ethernet: 3Com 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] > RAM: 256 MB SDRAM PC-100 > Welcome Arthur! It's good to see more new people here. I've recently joined the list myself, and am still slowly finding my way around the tools and tricks. (Search on Bugzilla for example; beats me...) As for what to test or even how to test, you'll probably find endless discussions and books on both of these questions. But given the specs on your testing machine, in I my opinion verifying that the most common tools still work well on an older machine would be useful. Because I think a basic installation, running a browser, e-mail client and some office applications, etc. should still be feasible on a machine a few years old. So if it takes an intolerable amount of time to boot, or to start an application, I'd stay that's an issue worth flagging on this list. Furthermore, I think one good way of testing in general is to try to use the application or system as you normally would do, i.e. some kind of use case testing. That is, would day-to-day use cause any issues, or even, would your mom be able to cope? I suppose some on the list will disagree to some of these views (but I don't mean this to be a troll). My main point is that in order to make mainstream Linux Desktop happen, we have to see it through the eyes of inexperienced users. Surprisingly, my mom does not ask about how to upgrade her Fedora laptop using yum, or how to set up a wlan. Rather, the most occurring questions are: "Do I right-click or left-click this button? Double or single click? How do I disconnect the USB disk again? And why does it not always show up on the screen when I plug it in?" (In FC4, I'm stuck on the last one). Havard -- Havard Rast Blok Web: http://hblok.net GPG/PGP key: http://hblok.net/gpg.txt -- This email has been scanned for viruses & spam by Decna as - www.decna.no Denne e-posten er sjekket for virus & spam av Decna as - www.decna.no From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Mon Feb 27 14:14:42 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:14:42 -0500 Subject: python bindings for RPM documentation In-Reply-To: <1141049149.2852.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1141038081.2852.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1141043784.1723.32.camel@cutter> <1141049149.2852.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1141049682.12840.2.camel@cutter> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 15:05 +0100, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 07:36 -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > > My goal is to install-remove a RPM with only python, no shell script. > > You realize that yum does what you're asking about now, right? > > I am not good enough in python to check yum's source code. > Yum does installation/removal through comand line: I dont want to manage > it through _shell_ script, only through python one. > I subscribed to the python rpm list. Thak you for the link. um, yum's not a shell script. and yum has a python module, that while not perfect, by far, is getting better. Take a look at what pirut and pup are using. -sv From gstool at earthlink.net Mon Feb 27 14:58:23 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:58:23 -0600 Subject: What is beagle supposed to find? Message-ID: <1141052303.2765.7.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> The GUI menu item Places > Search has replaced the older working Places > Find Files or some such name. The old one always located files on my computer if I entered a partial file name. The current Search app, beagle, seems to be useless. [gerry at fc5t3 ~]$ rpm -q beagle beagle-0.2.1-12 I have preferences set to index my home directory and the system root, /. If I enter fedora as the search string in the Find: box, I first get a message that nothing was found, and then after a wait of about 20 seconds, all I get is references to messages held in Evolution for this mailing list. If I cd to my home directory and execute grep -R fedora * I get many results of files containing the string fedora. If I execute locate fedora I get many files with fedora in the name. How is one supposed to use beagle to find these things? I would really like to see this tool be useful. Thanks. Gerry From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Mon Feb 27 13:22:19 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:22:19 +1100 Subject: rpm verify fails bigtime - prelink errors x1000+ Message-ID: <4402FD0B.4030409@bigpond.net.au> The machine i'm on is a FC5test2 install kept up2date with pup. On recommendation from someone on the list to verify the rpm install using: rpm -Va, I found a few items: mainly missing files- missing /usr/share/system-config-soundcard/probeCard.pyc missing /usr/share/system-config-soundcard/soundcard.pyc missing /usr/share/system-config-soundcard/soundcardBackend.pyc missing /usr/share/system-config-soundcard/system-config I guess this could be a problem so I: rpm -Uvh --force system-config-soundcard(-v currently installed). This cleared the problem up, ie no result for rpm -V sy-co-so... missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/browser missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/browser/content missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/browser/skin missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/cookie missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/cookie/content missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/editor missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/editor/content missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/global missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/global/content missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/global/skin Repeat same with mozilla. Repeated the rpm -V mozilla, and same files are still marked missing! missing /usr/share/system-config-display/dpiDialog.pyc missing /usr/share/system-config-display/monitorDialog.pyc missing /usr/share/system-config-display/screenSizePreview.pyc missing /usr/share/system-config-display/videocardDialog.pyc missing /usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.pyc missing /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.pyc >retired after a few days: and pup updates- [root at davidthome packages]# rpm -V system-config-display missing /usr/share/system-config-display/dpiDialog.pyc .M.....T. /usr/share/system-config-display/monitorDialog.pyc .M.....T. /usr/share/system-config-display/screenSizePreview.pyc .M.....T. /usr/share/system-config-display/videocardDialog.pyc .M.....T. /usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.pyc missing /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.pyc < Between about wednesday last week (first version) and the weekend the system-config-display files went from missing to modified ! Is this to be expected ? Why would an installed python code be different to what came out of the RPM ? prelink: /usr/sbin/bonobo-activation-sysconf: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking S.?...... /usr/sbin/bonobo-activation-sysconf prelink: /usr/lib/libdmx.so.1.0.0: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking S.?...... /usr/lib/libdmx.so.1.0.0 prelink: /usr/bin/nc: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking S.?...... /usr/bin/nc prelink: /usr/bin/chage: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking *** the above error has also been listed more than one thousand times. Should this error ever be seen ? When new binaries/libraries are installed (pup), doesn't yum trigger a prelink run ? What steps to take to clear the error ? Thanks for any info, DaveT. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Mon Feb 27 13:34:41 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:34:41 +1100 Subject: panel probs - applets - how to get them back Message-ID: <4402FFF1.9010709@bigpond.net.au> I get the following two error dialogs as the desktop completes loading after login: 1. The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet" Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration? 2. The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration? I have been choosing Dont Delete, rather than delete; I'd like them back (vol icon and trash icon). I expected first that there was some transient problem with devel, but now I expect that I've messed something up. I think I need to re-install rpm -Uvh --force the appropriate package: but which package contains the things that these messages refer to ? Perhaps others are seeing this ? DaveT. From paul at permanentmail.com Mon Feb 27 15:22:42 2006 From: paul at permanentmail.com (Paul Dickson) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:22:42 -0700 Subject: Not privileged to mount CDs In-Reply-To: <1141048729.24050.21.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> References: <20060226055927.76080dcf.paul@permanentmail.com> <200602261237.14360.linxt@comcast.net> <20060226145255.eff33a55.paul@permanentmail.com> <1141048729.24050.21.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060227082242.73cb0b8e.paul@permanentmail.com> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:58:48 -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 14:52 -0700, Paul Dickson wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:37:14 -0800, Thomas Taylor wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 26 February 2006 04:59, Paul Dickson wrote: > > > > When I place a non-blank CD in my CDROM drive, I get the message "You are > > > > not privileged to mount the volume ''." > > > > > > > > What do I need to do to be privileged? > > > > > > > > This might be new as google doesn't find anything immediately relevant. > > > > > > > > -Paul > > > > > > Check "man fstab" for enteries in the fourth field. "user" should work for > > > this. > > > > /dev/scd0 /media/cdrecorder auto pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed,user 0 0 > > > > Thanks for the idea, but it doesn't help. > > Try removing that line and it should actually work though it seems a bit > backwards.. let us know.. > > (yes, gnome-mount uses hal to mount and (as a security measure) hal will > refuse to mount if there is already an entry in the /etc/fstab file - > regardless of whether they contain pamconsole and/or user. Looks like we > should clean up after fstab-sync - some care to file a bug?). Thanks. Commenting out the fstab entry resolves the problem. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183214 -Paul From paul at permanentmail.com Mon Feb 27 15:29:32 2006 From: paul at permanentmail.com (Paul Dickson) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:29:32 -0700 Subject: Copy files to NFS directory loose time stamps In-Reply-To: <20060226190810.524a9eb2.paul@permanentmail.com> References: <20060226060429.4472a722.paul@permanentmail.com> <6280325c0602261348w389c34e5s4b350b1b7005e0d7@mail.gmail.com> <20060226190810.524a9eb2.paul@permanentmail.com> Message-ID: <20060227082932.ab3c3d9e.paul@permanentmail.com> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:08:10 -0700, Paul Dickson wrote: > On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:18:07 +1030, n0dalus wrote: > > > On 2/26/06, Paul Dickson wrote: > > > If I do a "cp -a" to a NFS volume, the resulting files have the current > > > time stamp. Do I need to change my mount options or is this a kernel bug? > > > > > > > Are you able to `touch` the files on the volume? (eg `touch -r file > > /copy/of/file/on/nfs` ). > > "mv" has the same problem. > > I can copy the timestamps with touch: touch -r old /new I filed a bugreport: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183208 It includes an attachment of an ethereal dump of the network traffic. The timestamp is transfered (mtime) and acknowledged. Bother client and server are running the same kernel version, 1977_FC5 (although server was initially running 1955_FC5). -Paul From jorton at redhat.com Mon Feb 27 15:34:45 2006 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:34:45 +0000 Subject: Problems with NIS/YP and seemingly endless do_ypcall: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out In-Reply-To: <1141037965.2749.147.camel@ephiny.ee.surrey.ac.uk> References: <1141037965.2749.147.camel@ephiny.ee.surrey.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20060227153444.GA30490@redhat.com> On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 10:59:25AM +0000, Bevis R W King wrote: > Has anyone else seen a problem with NIS/YP on FC5test3 (x86_64 version, > but probably generic) generating almost endless error messages of: > > do_ypcall: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out I had a similarly weird NIS problem with a Raw Hide install of a few weeks ago. In my case (see the mail archive) ypbind would never receive anything from the server at all, so failed to bind, logging that same RPC timeout message. I take it that much does work reliably for you? I've since re-installed the box from a newer Raw Hide and it "Just Works" again. FWIW, package versions are now: ypbind-1.19-0.i386 glibc-2.3.90-38.i686 kernel-2.6.15-1.1915_FC5.i686 joe From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 27 16:33:02 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:03:02 +0530 Subject: FC5T3: Duplicate packages installed In-Reply-To: <4403007A.3010103@yahoo.co.uk> References: <4401E3A6.8080802@yahoo.co.uk> <200602261133.05636.dennis@ausil.us> <8767947e0602261336g5f249f2br647c319579ec11e6@mail.gmail.com> <1140990050.18065.0.camel@ender> <4402FAF9.3070405@mharris.ca> <1141046365.1723.46.camel@cutter> <4403007A.3010103@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <440329BE.800@fedoraproject.org> Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> >> Alternatively, we could discourage the use of rpm as a command itself >> and push people toward using repoquery. repoquery acts on local rpmdb's >> as much as repositories. >> >> and repoquery's default format is: >> name-epoch:ver-rel.arch > > > Additionally a note in Release Notes in x86_64 specific part about it > could go a long way as to prevent some confusion. One short paragraph > that the x86_64 release contains some packages in two versions 32- and > 64-bit and eventually how to query for them. > I have a added a note that mentions this and recommends using repoquery instead along with the rpm command to list architecture. The release notes for FC5 might be already frozen for translation though. If so it will be available in the updated web errata published. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/ArchSpecific/x86_64 -- Rahul From linxt at comcast.net Mon Feb 27 17:09:00 2006 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:09:00 -0800 Subject: Issues with test 3 In-Reply-To: <4402F88E.1010904@fedoraproject.org> References: <4402F88E.1010904@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200602270909.00080.linxt@comcast.net> On Monday 27 February 2006 05:03, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > >>It is set to maximum possible and disabled?. If so I can confirm this. > >>Do file a bug report > > > >bug 183195 > > Thanks. > > >>Which ones? Do they provide a .desktop file?. Check if the packages have > >>a post installation script which runs update-desktop-database. rpm -q > >>--scripts would show you that. > > > >two examples that spring to mind are rhythmbox and gimp. > > > >On my root account these show up, but not as my user account on home > > Works fine here. Applications => Sound & Video = Rhythm Box Music Player > and Applications => Graphics => The Gimp. > > -- > Rahul Actually, Sound & Video was changed to Multimedia and it does have RhythmBox, at least on my system. HTH, Tom -- Tom Taylor Linux user #263467 Federal Way, WA From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 27 17:16:19 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:16:19 -0500 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <1140921320.2570.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> <1140762131.2162.3.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF13AF.8080603@fedoraproject.org> <20060224235653.a4d27730.paul@permanentmail.com> <440083B1.7010603@feuerpokemon.de> <1140921320.2570.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20060227171619.GB31836@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Dan Williams (dcbw at redhat.com) said: > It only appears if NetworkManager is running. I'm pretty sure I've seen it when NM is not running. Will have to do some more testing. Bill From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 27 17:17:10 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:17:10 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-xen] Re: initscripts, xen and bonding In-Reply-To: <20060224235443.GR21359@neu.nirvana> References: <20060224231311.GP21359@neu.nirvana> <20060224232820.GD5644@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060224235443.GR21359@neu.nirvana> Message-ID: <20060227171710.GC31836@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Axel Thimm (Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net) said: > are the xen scripts called by initscripts? No, they are their own entirely separate pile of goo. Bill From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 27 17:23:50 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:23:50 -0500 Subject: Network disconnected popup In-Reply-To: <20060227171619.GB31836@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20060223225744.11214.qmail@web86606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43FE542F.7030804@fedoraproject.org> <1140742125.14630.1.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> <43FE5B58.4010705@fedoraproject.org> <1140762131.2162.3.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <43FF13AF.8080603@fedoraproject.org> <20060224235653.a4d27730.paul@permanentmail.com> <440083B1.7010603@feuerpokemon.de> <1140921320.2570.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060227171619.GB31836@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060227172350.GA9529@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Bill Nottingham (notting at redhat.com) said: > Dan Williams (dcbw at redhat.com) said: > > It only appears if NetworkManager is running. > > I'm pretty sure I've seen it when NM is not running. Will have > to do some more testing. Just confirmed; with NM not running, I'm getting the dialog on startup. NetworkManager-glib-0.5.1-14.cvs20060221 NetworkManager-gnome-0.5.1-14.cvs20060221 NetworkManager-0.5.1-14.cvs20060221 Bill From cmontgom at redhat.com Mon Feb 27 17:30:38 2006 From: cmontgom at redhat.com (Monty) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:30:38 -0500 Subject: Mouse lockups in X.org w/ ATI In-Reply-To: <44023659.4060705@eburg.com> References: <44015DA8.5070706@eburg.com> <44023214.80309@eburg.com> <44023659.4060705@eburg.com> Message-ID: <20060227173038.GC20969@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 03:14:33PM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > Gordon Messmer wrote: > >This is interesting... The mouse seems to lock up after 10 seconds of > >inactivity. As long as I use the mouse constantly, it doesn't seem to > >lock up. > > > > Also, the problem doesn't affect non-optical mice. I have a Dell > branded USB mouse which works properly. > > I'll try to get my hands on another brand of optical mouse later, and > see if it's specific to the Logitech brand. My Logitech mouse does this. My HP mouse does not (pity; the Logitech is a much better mouse otherwise). I'm running the radeon server, both mice are USB. Monty From don_springall at hotmail.com Mon Feb 27 17:57:56 2006 From: don_springall at hotmail.com (Don Springall) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:57:56 -0700 Subject: gnome-power-manager-2.13.92-1 Message-ID: After today's update and the last version I no longer see where one sets at what percent your battery goes to critical. It is no longer off the power manager icon preferences or in the preferences under menu more preferences - power management. Is this a feature or a bug ? Also the preferences dialog off right clicking the power manager icon is the same as the menu power management. Do we need two ways to set this ? From gnomeuser at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 18:57:26 2006 From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:57:26 +0100 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <4401F3C0.9010300@mharris.ca> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> <4401AB7E.7070003@yahoo.co.uk> <4401F3C0.9010300@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <1141066647.2277.21.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> s?n, 26 02 2006 kl. 13:30 -0500, skrev Mike A. Harris: > Yeah, hopefully. ;) Maybe ESR will write a nasty letter about CD > burning support in Linux, and it'll get slashdotted and covered in > all major online media, leading to rock solid CD burning/verifying > support a few weeks later. ;) It worked somewhat for printing > anyway, so we can remain hopeful. ;) http://icculus.org/burn/ Libburn is the eventual replacement for Jorg' cdrecord grip on Linux burning, see we didn't even need ESR for this one. I encourage talented people to start contributing so it can get in shape faster and free us all. - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From wtogami at redhat.com Mon Feb 27 18:59:28 2006 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:59:28 -0500 Subject: Test: Rawhide kernel install crash, SMP crash Message-ID: <44034C10.4040509@redhat.com> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183010 Rawhide has been suffering since Friday a crash during kernel installation in "grubby" which causes a failure to add the kernel to grub.conf. http://people.redhat.com/wtogami/temp/rawhide/ I copied new mkinitrd (plus sources) for people suffering from this issue in order to workaround these problems earlier than tonight's rawhide push. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182731 SMP kernel crash http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/devel/ Get 1990+ kernel from here, or wait until tonight's rawhide push. Do not reply here if you see problems, please use Bugzilla. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 27 19:02:01 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:02:01 -0600 Subject: FC5T3 install issues (Video - winbind auth) Message-ID: <44034CA9.4030205@fedoraproject.org> During my FC5T2 install I had no issues with video, this time around the installer started with part of the top missing (lines going through). Also after changing my monitor in the install to 1920x1200 I could not select that mode without taking the color rate down to thousands. On a successful install the startx screen also has the right 1/4th of the screen covered with horizontal lines. Also during the install proccess after reboot I chose to use winbind authentication. When I finally booted and ran setup, winbind was selected for user info but not user authentication. For some reason the settings got wipped. Even after setting stuff back up its still not allowing me to authenticate. The error I get in the logs is "Got invalid request length: 0" -Mike From dragoran at feuerpokemon.de Mon Feb 27 20:08:36 2006 From: dragoran at feuerpokemon.de (dragoran) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:08:36 +0100 Subject: FC5T3 install issues (Video - winbind auth) In-Reply-To: <44034CA9.4030205@fedoraproject.org> References: <44034CA9.4030205@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <44035C44.5090602@feuerpokemon.de> Mike McGrath wrote: >During my FC5T2 install I had no issues with video, this time around the >installer started with part of the top missing (lines going through). >Also after changing my monitor in the install to 1920x1200 I could not >select that mode without taking the color rate down to thousands. On a >successful install the startx screen also has the right 1/4th of the >screen covered with horizontal lines. > > > which video card and which driver is used? >Also during the install proccess after reboot I chose to use winbind >authentication. When I finally booted and ran setup, winbind was >selected for user info but not user authentication. For some reason the >settings got wipped. Even after setting stuff back up its still not >allowing me to authenticate. > >The error I get in the logs is "Got invalid request length: 0" > > -Mike > > > From mharris at mharris.ca Mon Feb 27 21:09:59 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:09:59 -0500 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <1141066647.2277.21.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> <4401AB7E.7070003@yahoo.co.uk> <4401F3C0.9010300@mharris.ca> <1141066647.2277.21.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> Message-ID: <44036AA7.5000105@mharris.ca> David Nielsen wrote: > s?n, 26 02 2006 kl. 13:30 -0500, skrev Mike A. Harris: > >>Yeah, hopefully. ;) Maybe ESR will write a nasty letter about CD >>burning support in Linux, and it'll get slashdotted and covered in >>all major online media, leading to rock solid CD burning/verifying >>support a few weeks later. ;) It worked somewhat for printing >>anyway, so we can remain hopeful. ;) > > > http://icculus.org/burn/ > > Libburn is the eventual replacement for Jorg' cdrecord grip on Linux > burning, see we didn't even need ESR for this one. > > I encourage talented people to start contributing so it can get in shape > faster and free us all. It's good to see that someone is creating an alternative to cdrecord. Hopefully it will do as much as cdrecord can do, and hopefully it has pleasant friendly developers too. ;o) I don't think that will fix kernel bugs though, unless there is a libburn.ko included that replaces the buggy kernel code. ;) -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From dstolte at arcor.de Mon Feb 27 21:36:25 2006 From: dstolte at arcor.de (D. Stolte) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:36:25 +0100 Subject: Test request [Was: Re: FC5T3 freeze (x86_64 + NVidia 6600)] In-Reply-To: <4402FA95.3060506@yahoo.co.uk> References: <43FE10FB.5020303@yahoo.co.uk> <43FED815.7010008@mharris.ca> <43FF5CFB.1040300@yahoo.co.uk> <43FF8F37.9050904@yahoo.co.uk> <4402FA95.3060506@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <440370D9.5070301@arcor.de> Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 02/24/2006 10:56 PM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> On 02/24/2006 07:22 PM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >>> On 02/24/2006 09:55 AM, Mike A. Harris wrote: >>>> Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >>>>> What info can help solve this issue (I have collected some logs)? >>>>> Against what should I file a bug? >>>> >>>> Best thing to do with any/all "nv" driver bugs is file a bug report >>>> at: http://bugs.freedesktop.org in the xorg product, >>>> component "nVidia (open)" >>>> >>>> That goes straight to Aaron Plattner from Nvidia, who is currently >>>> maintaining the open source nv driver (along with Mark V.) >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Thanks Mike! Bug submitted: >>> >>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032 >> >> BTW: should I also file a "tracking" bug at >> http://bugzilla.redhat.com, Product Fedora Core, Version fc5test3 >> since it affects FC5T3? > > "Tracker" bug for Fedora: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183110 > > > If you run Nvidia open source driver with any 6600 series card can you > please test if the following screensavers do or do not crash your > system? Warning: this really may *freeze* your machine! I found that > these cause total hang up on my dual core x86_64: > > Lorenz Atractor - crash in seconds > Julia - crash in a second > Fade Plot - crash in a second > Discrete - crash in minutes > Hopalong - crash in seconds > > > If it does crash please update > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032 > > with relevant information plus result of "lspci -vn" and Xorg log file. > If you find any other screensavers that cause this problem please update > this bug too. > > Dariusz I can confirm that. /ds > > > ___________________________________________________________ To help you > stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security > Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com > From pemboa at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 21:53:07 2006 From: pemboa at gmail.com (Arthur Pemberton) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:53:07 -0600 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <4402D27E.5020008@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> <4402D27E.5020008@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <16de708d0602271353k69c559e6qc5ef4c7d00ce0184@mail.gmail.com> On 2/27/06, John Summerfield wrote: > > Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > >I have just setup a machine solely for the purpose of testing, I shall > >append the specs to this post. For now, I have yummed to > updates-released, > >adn then updates-testing. What do I do as a tester? I have no familiarity > >with the processs, just the will to help. > > > > > > > > What do you intend to test? Currently, I am interested in helping with testing into FC5. My currently assumption is that the path to do this was to install FC4 and update to fedora-testing. 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Get Fedora Core 5 Test 3 and update from there if you want to help test FC5. - David -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: www.lovesunix.net/blog From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Mon Feb 27 22:07:03 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:07:03 +0000 Subject: Test request [Was: Re: FC5T3 freeze (x86_64 + NVidia 6600)] In-Reply-To: <440370D9.5070301@arcor.de> References: <43FE10FB.5020303@yahoo.co.uk> <43FED815.7010008@mharris.ca> <43FF5CFB.1040300@yahoo.co.uk> <43FF8F37.9050904@yahoo.co.uk> <4402FA95.3060506@yahoo.co.uk> <440370D9.5070301@arcor.de> Message-ID: <44037807.8080608@yahoo.co.uk> On 02/27/2006 09:36 PM, D. Stolte wrote: > Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> On 02/24/2006 10:56 PM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >>> On 02/24/2006 07:22 PM, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >>>> On 02/24/2006 09:55 AM, Mike A. Harris wrote: >>>>> Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >>>>>> What info can help solve this issue (I have collected some logs)? >>>>>> Against what should I file a bug? >>>>> Best thing to do with any/all "nv" driver bugs is file a bug report >>>>> at: http://bugs.freedesktop.org in the xorg product, >>>>> component "nVidia (open)" >>>>> >>>>> That goes straight to Aaron Plattner from Nvidia, who is currently >>>>> maintaining the open source nv driver (along with Mark V.) >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>> Thanks Mike! Bug submitted: >>>> >>>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032 >>> BTW: should I also file a "tracking" bug at >>> http://bugzilla.redhat.com, Product Fedora Core, Version fc5test3 >>> since it affects FC5T3? >> "Tracker" bug for Fedora: >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183110 >> >> >> If you run Nvidia open source driver with any 6600 series card can you >> please test if the following screensavers do or do not crash your >> system? Warning: this really may *freeze* your machine! I found that >> these cause total hang up on my dual core x86_64: >> >> Lorenz Atractor - crash in seconds >> Julia - crash in a second >> Fade Plot - crash in a second >> Discrete - crash in minutes >> Hopalong - crash in seconds >> >> >> If it does crash please update >> >> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032 >> >> with relevant information plus result of "lspci -vn" and Xorg log file. >> If you find any other screensavers that cause this problem please update >> this bug too. >> >> Dariusz > I can confirm that. Can you update the bug with result of "/sbin/lspci -vn" command (preferably run from root account) and attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to it? Eventually you can send this information to me on my private email and I will do that. Cheers, Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ NEW Yahoo! Cars - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online! http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/ From pemboa at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 22:08:01 2006 From: pemboa at gmail.com (Arthur Pemberton) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:08:01 -0600 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <15788.62.218.28.226.1141049288.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> <15788.62.218.28.226.1141049288.squirrel@mail.hblok.net> Message-ID: <16de708d0602271408q72d53cf5sc36adda0ce289e3@mail.gmail.com> On 2/27/06, Havard Rast Blok wrote: > > [ snip ] Welcome Arthur! > > It's good to see more new people here. I've recently joined the list > myself, and am still slowly finding my way around the tools and tricks. > (Search on Bugzilla for example; beats me...) That's where I am now I suppose. As for what to test or even how to test, you'll probably find endless > discussions and books on both of these questions. But given the specs on > your testing machine, in I my opinion verifying that the most common tools > still work well on an older machine would be useful. Because I think a > basic installation, running a browser, e-mail client and some office > applications, etc. should still be feasible on a machine a few years old. > So if it takes an intolerable amount of time to boot, or to start an > application, I'd stay that's an issue worth flagging on this list. Fair enough. Furthermore, I think one good way of testing in general is to try to use > the application or system as you normally would do, i.e. some kind of use > case testing. That is, would day-to-day use cause any issues, or even, > would your mom be able to cope? This is more towards my original query as to testign methadology. Thanks. I suppose some on the list will disagree to some of these views (but I > don't mean this to be a troll). My main point is that in order to make > mainstream Linux Desktop happen, we have to see it through the eyes of > inexperienced users. Surprisingly, my mom does not ask about how to > upgrade her Fedora laptop using yum, or how to set up a wlan. Rather, the > most occurring questions are: "Do I right-click or left-click this button? > Double or single click? How do I disconnect the USB disk again? And why > does it not always show up on the screen when I plug it in?" (In FC4, I'm > stuck on the last one). KDE in FC4 may currently do this, I know it does for CD/DVD Roms. Also with KDE, you can add the "Storage Media" applet to a taskbar, sorry, not sure how to do this with Gnome. Havard Peace. -- > Havard Rast Blok > > -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please correct me if this assumption is > > incorrect. > > You'd be mistaken actually. > > Get Fedora Core 5 Test 3 and update from there if you want to help test > FC5. > > - David Thanks, have since come to that conclusion. I am on to find the necessary ISOs. -- > Obligatory shameless blog plug - the GNOME commentary located at: > www.lovesunix.net/blog > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What do I do as a tester? > > I have no familiarity with the processs, just the will to help. > > > you should know https://bugzilla.redhat.com Check : already filled a few reports in my Linux life you should have a lot of time and a good internet-connection Question mark : still don't think there are enough hours in a day Check : On a university network, all p2p is blocked however, and test machine conencts to internet through squid on my FC4 workstation. But bandwidth is normally not a problem, not sure for latency. you should have a good lug=linux user group Question mark : local lug discussions are too often off-topic, but can be very helpful you should know how to quote Check you should not be a mimosa Question mark : somewhat clueless as to meaning in this context you should know rpm, vi, rescue mode, askmethod, interactive mode, > runlevel 3, ... in other words = how to help yourself Check Check Question mark : never needed it as yet Check Check Check Check : often no other option exists you should have a good social environment or a lot of beer Question mark : does a large collection of music and frequent visits to /. count? your family/friends should not fall in panic if you are disappeared for > several days behind the internet, bugzilla, man-pages, ... Check : long since fixed do not try to explain your windows-users-friends what you are doing and > why you prefer linux over windows Check : lesson learnt the hard way do not try to explain your doctor why you do not know the so called real > time, real date, your real name, real actual news, ... Check : solution is to not go to doctor you should not ask yourself why you are spending such a lot of time for > and with linux for free Check : already know the answer you should always have a plan to go back in the so called normal life X-mark : I think it is too late for that but ... what do you want to test ? > > - older releases see http://fedoralegacy.org/ > rhl7.3 updates > rhl9 updates > fc1 updates > fc2 updates > fc3 updates > > - actual release updates > fc4 updates testing > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ This is what the machine is currently working on. - new release > fc5test3 > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/4.92/ > + development > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ > ==> fc5 > and later fc5 updates testing > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/5/ Now realising that there is a difference, would appericate quick instructions on how to do this. - rawhide / development > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ > > > - next release fc6 ? http://fedora.redhat.com/About/schedule/ > fc6 test releaeses > fc6test1 ? > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/5.90/ > fc6test2 ? > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/5.91/ > fc6test3 ? > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/5.92/ Somewhat scary that these already exist, will still to testing FC5. ... Thanks for the response. Unless anyone in this thread would rather not, I intend to sumarise the output of this thread into a page/pages at fedoraproject.org -- > shrek-m > > -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Mon Feb 27 22:17:43 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:17:43 +0800 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <16de708d0602271353k69c559e6qc5ef4c7d00ce0184@mail.gmail.com> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> <4402D27E.5020008@herakles.homelinux.org> <16de708d0602271353k69c559e6qc5ef4c7d00ce0184@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44037A87.3080305@herakles.homelinux.org> Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On 2/27/06, John Summerfield wrote: > >>Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> >> >>>I have just setup a machine solely for the purpose of testing, I shall >>>append the specs to this post. For now, I have yummed to >> >>updates-released, >> >>>adn then updates-testing. What do I do as a tester? I have no familiarity >>>with the processs, just the will to help. >>> >>> >>> >> >>What do you intend to test? > > > > Currently, I am interested in helping with testing into FC5. My currently > assumption is that the path to do this was to install FC4 and update to > fedora-testing. Please correct me if this assumption is incorrect. Read the release notes: I expect you will find that upgrading is not supported (but it might be, and even if not it might be worth testing). upgrading from test to final is almost certainly _not_ supported. I would guess that most hardware compatibility concerns are with the latest and greates (such as does not work on FC4), but then I had problems with nahant betas on hardware not too different from yours: intel 815 chipset, integrated graphics (same graphics as yours). Not a lot of point following beaten paths, test first what's important to you, what you need to run. Including anything you're likely to add. If you have a new box too, consider an extra disk drive and a caddy to enable you to swap drives quickly so you can check the software works on that too. If you're a software developer, make sure your tools work. If you create custom distros, make sure you can (practice by building another as each batch of changes comes out, do a daily build if you can[1]). If you install lotsa boxes, make sure _your_ kickstart selections work, that PXE works with your hardware. If you want to run Windows programs, check that they work, document what you need to do, file bug reports and documentation as necessary. Keep a record of what tests you run so you can do them all again whenever FC5{T,}[0-9] changes. [1] If you do a daily build, have your build process create a list of packages (eg find Fedora -type f -name \*.rpm | xargs rpm --qf '{whatever}') will do so you can documennt what's in _your_ packages. From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Mon Feb 27 22:27:13 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:27:13 +0800 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <44036AA7.5000105@mharris.ca> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4400DAC8.8090705@mharris.ca> <4401AB7E.7070003@yahoo.co.uk> <4401F3C0.9010300@mharris.ca> <1141066647.2277.21.camel@price.stavtrup-st.dk> <44036AA7.5000105@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <44037CC1.8090002@herakles.homelinux.org> Mike A. Harris wrote: > David Nielsen wrote: > >> s?n, 26 02 2006 kl. 13:30 -0500, skrev Mike A. Harris: >> >>> Yeah, hopefully. ;) Maybe ESR will write a nasty letter about CD >>> burning support in Linux, and it'll get slashdotted and covered in >>> all major online media, leading to rock solid CD burning/verifying >>> support a few weeks later. ;) It worked somewhat for printing >>> anyway, so we can remain hopeful. ;) >> >> >> >> http://icculus.org/burn/ >> >> Libburn is the eventual replacement for Jorg' cdrecord grip on Linux >> burning, see we didn't even need ESR for this one. >> >> I encourage talented people to start contributing so it can get in shape >> faster and free us all. > > > It's good to see that someone is creating an alternative to cdrecord. > > Hopefully it will do as much as cdrecord can do, and hopefully it has > pleasant friendly developers too. ;o) > > I don't think that will fix kernel bugs though, unless there is a > libburn.ko included that replaces the buggy kernel code. ;) I use growisofs to burn DVDs, so cdrecord with its patches aren't responsible for my problems. It's enough to make me think somewhat seriously of installing Debian (I can't think of anything else atm that supports 2.4 kernels). Maybe a RHEL 3 clone. From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Mon Feb 27 22:33:21 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:33:21 -0500 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <16de708d0602271353k69c559e6qc5ef4c7d00ce0184@mail.gmail.com> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> <4402D27E.5020008@herakles.homelinux.org> <16de708d0602271353k69c559e6qc5ef4c7d00ce0184@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44037E31.8040304@insight.rr.com> Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > > On 2/27/06, *John Summerfield* > wrote: > > Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > >I have just setup a machine solely for the purpose of testing, I shall > >append the specs to this post. For now, I have yummed to > updates-released, > >adn then updates-testing. What do I do as a tester? I have no > familiarity > >with the processs, just the will to help. > > > > > > > > What do you intend to test? > > > Currently, I am interested in helping with testing into FC5. My > currently assumption is that the path to do this was to install FC4 and > update to fedora-testing. Please correct me if this assumption is incorrect. Welcome to the test list. As stated in another response, FC5 Test is a different animal than updates-testing. Updates-testing is sort of a test bed for FC4 before the updates are released to the main update directory. This sort of test is worthy and problems are lesser than the development branch. FC5T3 is the third testing phase before the final release. You can download the ISO files via bittorrent (choose your preference) http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ or via ftp or http from one of the mirrors. http://fedora.redhat.com/Download/mirrors.html Choosing the first mirror on the list for example, FC5T3 would be ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/4.92/i386/iso notice the test versions are labeled as FC5T1 = 4.90 and the versions go up from there, zero is a number for the first release and 4.92 is FC5T3 Issues I think are important. Can you use your video in the GUI better or equal to how it used to be? Can you burn CDs or DVDs correctly? Do you like the new actions for new programs? Do old familiar programs work well? Can you install the system with the install media provided? Also, you need to be prepared for breakage of some applications and be able or trainable to work out from under the problems. Jim -- Well fix that in the next (upgrade, update, patch release, service pack). From pemboa at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 22:32:16 2006 From: pemboa at gmail.com (Arthur Pemberton) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:32:16 -0600 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <44037A87.3080305@herakles.homelinux.org> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> <4402D27E.5020008@herakles.homelinux.org> <16de708d0602271353k69c559e6qc5ef4c7d00ce0184@mail.gmail.com> <44037A87.3080305@herakles.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <16de708d0602271432w62c2c1f4re9e1356c17eb531f@mail.gmail.com> On 2/27/06, John Summerfield wrote: > > Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > On 2/27/06, John Summerfield wrote: > > > >>Arthur Pemberton wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I have just setup a machine solely for the purpose of testing, I shall > >>>append the specs to this post. For now, I have yummed to > >> > >>updates-released, > >> > >>>adn then updates-testing. What do I do as a tester? I have no > familiarity > >>>with the processs, just the will to help. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>What do you intend to test? > > > > > > > > Currently, I am interested in helping with testing into FC5. My > currently > > assumption is that the path to do this was to install FC4 and update to > > fedora-testing. Please correct me if this assumption is incorrect. > > Read the release notes: I expect you will find that upgrading is not > supported (but it might be, and even if not it might be worth testing). > > upgrading from test to final is almost certainly _not_ supported. > > I would guess that most hardware compatibility concerns are with the > latest and greates (such as does not work on FC4), but then I had > problems with nahant betas on hardware not too different from yours: > intel 815 chipset, integrated graphics (same graphics as yours). > > Not a lot of point following beaten paths, test first what's important > to you, what you need to run. Including anything you're likely to add. > > If you have a new box too, consider an extra disk drive and a caddy to > enable you to swap drives quickly so you can check the software works on > that too. > > If you're a software developer, make sure your tools work. If you create > custom distros, make sure you can (practice by building another as each > batch of changes comes out, do a daily build if you can[1]). If you > install lotsa boxes, make sure _your_ kickstart selections work, that > PXE works with your hardware. If you want to run Windows programs, check > that they work, document what you need to do, file bug reports and > documentation as necessary. > > Keep a record of what tests you run so you can do them all again > whenever FC5{T,}[0-9] changes. > > [1] If you do a daily build, have your build process create a list of > packages (eg find Fedora -type f -name \*.rpm | xargs rpm --qf > '{whatever}') will do so you can documennt what's in _your_ packages. > > Okay great. May have to re-read this post to absorb some of the terms used that I am not yet familiar with. I am currently downloading the DVD iso, then will download disk 1 and attempt a network install of FC4.92 -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From charles at softwareeffect.com Mon Feb 27 22:49:44 2006 From: charles at softwareeffect.com (Charles Deling) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:49:44 -0500 Subject: SMP Kernel on Dell PE2850 and X causes crash - FC5 Test 3 In-Reply-To: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> Message-ID: <44038208.8060501@softwareeffect.com> I installed the FC5 test 3 CD's. Using kernel version kernel-smp-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5, in run level 5 after the user logs on the system locks up hard. No keyboard input, no changes on the screen, no network functions. Using kernel kernel-2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 To make sure I have the latest and greatest of everything I ran "yum -y update" at 17:47 Februrary 27 (Eastern time) except for kernel and kernel-smp and got the same results. The reason why id did not upgrade the kernel is because I get the following error message from yum for kernel-smp-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 and kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 Downloading Packages: (1/1): kernel-2.6.15-1.19 100% |=========================| 13 MB 01:35 Running Transaction Test Finished Transaction Test Transaction Test Succeeded Running Transaction Installing: kernel ######################### [1/1] error resolving symbolic link ./../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/0000:01:00.0/0000:02:0e.0/host0/target0:2:0/0:2:0:0\u047fD\u047f \\u047f,\u047f\uffff: No such file or directory After I did the upgrade and booted to run level 5 with the SMP kernel, XOrg was using 99% of the processors (per top) and never prompted for a user to log in. I could connect via ssh, but the system was running very slow. Starting the sytem with SMP in run level 3 is fine until you do "startx" or init 5 - then the processor utilization goes off the chart. Nothing every appears on the monitor. ssh will function. The system has (2) 2.8G processors and As I am not an expert in X, could somebody suggest something stupid I might be doing, is there more information I should provide, or should I file a bug report? Thanks! Charlie From pemboa at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 23:00:36 2006 From: pemboa at gmail.com (Arthur Pemberton) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:00:36 -0600 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <44037E31.8040304@insight.rr.com> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> <4402D27E.5020008@herakles.homelinux.org> <16de708d0602271353k69c559e6qc5ef4c7d00ce0184@mail.gmail.com> <44037E31.8040304@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <16de708d0602271500g435758fcu817c46dcfec0261a@mail.gmail.com> On 2/27/06, Jim Cornette wrote: > > Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > > > > > On 2/27/06, *John Summerfield* > > wrote: > > > > Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > > > >I have just setup a machine solely for the purpose of testing, I > shall > > >append the specs to this post. For now, I have yummed to > > updates-released, > > >adn then updates-testing. What do I do as a tester? I have no > > familiarity > > >with the processs, just the will to help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you intend to test? > > > > > > Currently, I am interested in helping with testing into FC5. My > > currently assumption is that the path to do this was to install FC4 and > > update to fedora-testing. Please correct me if this assumption is > incorrect. > > [ snip ] > Issues I think are important. > Can you use your video in the GUI better or equal to how it used to be? > Can you burn CDs or DVDs correctly? > Do you like the new actions for new programs? Do old familiar programs > work well? > Can you install the system with the install media provided? > > Also, you need to be prepared for breakage of some applications and be > able or trainable to work out from under the problems. > > Jim Great. I am already downloading FC4.92. Issues you list are what I ma looking for, so that I have an understanding of what exactly to look for. Thank you. -- > Well fix that in the next (upgrade, update, patch release, service pack). > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't know if it helps, but for my burner (Pioneer DVR-110D), I'm always required to run `cdrecord -fix` to finalize any disc I burn which is more than a few hundred megs. I honestly have no idea why this is, but it doesn't seem to cause any other problems. ~~Peter From dwalsh at redhat.com Mon Feb 27 23:12:13 2006 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:12:13 -0500 Subject: nVidia and selinux permission denied In-Reply-To: <1140934686.3055.10.camel@logi.telenet.ru> References: <1140934686.3055.10.camel@logi.telenet.ru> Message-ID: <4403874D.3000601@redhat.com> Alor wrote: > Is there possibility of using SElinux enforce mode with nvidia driver? > After successful installing nVidia driver 1.0-8178 when setenforce=1 X > server not started with error message: > > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so > dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so: cannot enable > executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied > > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so > dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so: cannot enable > executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied > > Thanks for any suggestions! > > Best regards, > Alex Long > > > What is the file context on both files? You could try to set the file context on these files to textrel_shlib_t chcon -t textrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so If that does not work try setting the boolean allow_execstack? setsebool -P allow_execstack=1 From davej at redhat.com Mon Feb 27 23:26:23 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:26:23 -0500 Subject: SMP Kernel on Dell PE2850 and X causes crash - FC5 Test 3 In-Reply-To: <44038208.8060501@softwareeffect.com> References: <200602251017.14100.dmutters@gmail.com> <44038208.8060501@softwareeffect.com> Message-ID: <20060227232623.GB7317@redhat.com> On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 05:49:44PM -0500, Charles Deling wrote: > ./../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/0000:01:00.0/0000:02:0e.0/host0/target0:2:0/0:2:0:0\u047fD\u047f > \\u047f,\u047f\uffff: No such file or directory nash problem, should be fixed in mkinitrd in tomorrows rawhide. Dave From uno at webworks.se Tue Feb 28 00:22:49 2006 From: uno at webworks.se (Uno Engborg) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:22:49 +0100 Subject: Postgresql on FC5T3 Message-ID: <440397D9.3070505@webworks.se> How do I get postgresql to work in FC5T3. I don't seam to figure out how this new alternative system is supposed to work. Could sombody provide a hint? Regards Uno Engborg From tsimi at speakeasy.net Tue Feb 28 00:35:31 2006 From: tsimi at speakeasy.net (Todd Simi) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:35:31 -0800 Subject: Mouse lockups in X.org w/ ATI Message-ID: <1141086931.31212.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have a mouse problem, but I am using NVidia, and it happens with a Microsoft USB Optical Mouse as well as a Microsoft PS/2 ball mouse. With mine, the mouse_over and mouse clicks stop working. I have found that sometimes ALT-TAB will reactivate it. Gordon Messmer wrote: > This is interesting... The mouse seems to lock up after 10 seconds of > inactivity. As long as I use the mouse constantly, it doesn't seem to > lock up. > Also, the problem doesn't affect non-optical mice. I have a Dell branded USB mouse which works properly. I'll try to get my hands on another brand of optical mouse later, and see if it's specific to the Logitech brand. From dmutters at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 00:45:13 2006 From: dmutters at gmail.com (Dane Mutters) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:45:13 -0800 Subject: Read-write samba share not writable in FC5T3 Message-ID: <200602271645.13622.dmutters@gmail.com> Hello. I normally wouldn't post a question like this on a testers board, except that I'm using the exact configuration from my working gentoo server, and it's not working the same. I can copy files and copy them over alright, but I can't delete them or write to he directory. Are there any tricks I should know about that Fedora requires and gentoo doesn't? Are there any known issues with Samba on Fedora 5? Here's my smb.conf: [global] workgroup = THEBAND security = share printing = cups printcap name = cups wins support = yes map to guest = bad user [readonly] comment = read-only directory path = /pub/readonly read only = yes guest ok = yes browseable = yes [readwrite] comment = writeable directory path = /pub/readwrite read only = no guest only = yes browseable = yes force create mode = 0777 create directory mask = 0777 force group = users --Dane From stanfinley at comcast.net Tue Feb 28 01:01:39 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:01:39 -0700 Subject: FC5, progression or regression? Message-ID: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> My Intel onboard 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller used to run glxgears at blinding speeds with FC4 and I didn't even have to install a driver for it on my eMachines T5026. It just worked great out of the box on FC4. Now with FC5 (in the absence of glxgears which apparently I can't get on FC5) my 3d graphics and screensavers run jerkily and seem sluggish. Firefox 1.5 rendering time is abysmal compared to Firefox 1.0.7 on FC4 on this same machine. It has a 3 GHz P4 processor for heaven's sake. It should run FC5 like the wind. Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Tue Feb 28 01:09:27 2006 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:09:27 -0500 Subject: Read-write samba share not writable in FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <200602271645.13622.dmutters@gmail.com> References: <200602271645.13622.dmutters@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1141088967.4693.11.camel@ignacio.lan> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 16:45 -0800, Dane Mutters wrote: > I normally wouldn't post a question like this on a testers board, except that > I'm using the exact configuration from my working gentoo server, and it's not > working the same. I can copy files and copy them over alright, but I can't > delete them or write to he directory. Are there any tricks I should know > about that Fedora requires and gentoo doesn't? Are there any known issues > with Samba on Fedora 5? That would be SELinux. Run System Settings | Security Level and change what SELinux allows Samba to do. Failing that you can use getsebool and setsebool to manipulate the policy booleans in the same manner. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Run System Settings | Security Level and change > what SELinux allows Samba to do. Failing that you can use getsebool and > setsebool to manipulate the policy booleans in the same manner. I tried several combinations of SELinux options, and eventually just disabled SELinux protection for all the Samba-related daemons. That fixed it. Should this be considered a bug/something to be fixed? It seems to me that the average user just wanting to share a few files won't know how to/want to mess with the security settings. What do you think? --Dane From mharris at mharris.ca Tue Feb 28 02:21:16 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:21:16 -0500 Subject: FC5, progression or regression? In-Reply-To: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> Stanton Finley wrote: > My Intel onboard 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics > Controller used to run glxgears at blinding speeds with FC4 and I didn't > even have to install a driver for it on my eMachines T5026. The driver comes with FC5 of course. Not sure why you think you need to install a driver elsewhere. > It just worked great out of the box on FC4. Now with FC5 (in the absence > of glxgears which apparently I can't get on FC5) Except that you are wrong, and glxgears is part of FC5. > my 3d graphics and > screensavers run jerkily and seem sluggish. Firefox 1.5 rendering time > is abysmal compared to Firefox 1.0.7 on FC4 on this same machine. It has > a 3 GHz P4 processor for heaven's sake. It should run FC5 like the wind. That's why it is a test release, to find bugs. Don't use test releases if you expect flawless OS operation and perfect performance. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From dsavage at peaknet.net Tue Feb 28 02:21:20 2006 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:21:20 -0600 Subject: FC5t3 srpm ISOs Message-ID: <1141093280.25902.8.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/4.92/source/iso Where are the real source ISOs? These are still almost empty shells containing no .src.rpm files. -- Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 4 kernel 2.6.15-1.1831_FC4 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p ** Bob Costas for Baseball Commissioner ** From jvian10 at charter.net Tue Feb 28 02:22:22 2006 From: jvian10 at charter.net (Jeff Vian) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:22:22 -0600 Subject: Issues with test 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1141093342.4115.111.camel@eagle.lab.net> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 11:12 +0000, Mike Martin wrote: > Hi > > I installed test 3 last night and I have the following issues > > 1. Bash scripts not picking up varaiable eg: > > this (very simple) script > > ffmpeg -i $2 -b $1 $3 > > when run results in a message from ffmpeg about io error (no file) > Is this run from the command line? If so then $1, $2, and $3 have no values. These variables are initialized from the command like making the call and exist only within the script environment. for example script 1 2 3 would call a script named script and within that script the variables $1, $2, and $3 would have the values 1, 2, and 3 respectively. If you are calling a script that then calls ffmpeg with the line given then that should work. > 2. Naulitlus burn gives no chance to change burn speed > > 3. On an exiting user account menu entries are sparse (ie some > installed apps missing) > From cmadams at hiwaay.net Tue Feb 28 02:25:44 2006 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:25:44 -0600 Subject: FC5t3 srpm ISOs In-Reply-To: <1141093280.25902.8.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> References: <1141093280.25902.8.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <20060228022544.GA857654@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Robert G. (Doc) Savage said: > Where are the real source ISOs? These are still almost empty shells > containing no .src.rpm files. Due to a bug in the build system, the ISOs were generated with no SRPMS. This should be fixed for the release. The build system has been updated to only generate one unified set of SRPMS ISOs instead of one set per architecture. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From mitr at redhat.com Tue Feb 28 03:15:31 2006 From: mitr at redhat.com (Miloslav Trmac) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:15:31 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 4 Test Update: tcsh-6.14-1.fc4.2 Message-ID: <200602280315.k1S3FV121665@int-mx1.corp.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2006-118 2006-02-27 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 4 Name : tcsh Version : 6.14 Release : 1.fc4.2 Summary : An enhanced version of csh, the C shell. Description : Tcsh is an enhanced but completely compatible version of csh, the C shell. Tcsh is a command language interpreter which can be used both as an interactive login shell and as a shell script command processor. Tcsh includes a command line editor, programmable word completion, spelling correction, a history mechanism, job control and a C language like syntax. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: If you have any csh scripts containing non-ASCII characters, please test that they still work with this update. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Feb 28 2006 Miloslav Trmac - 6.14-1.fc4.2 - Fix a crash when reading scripts with multibyte characters (#183267) * Sun Feb 19 2006 Miloslav Trmac - 6.14-1.fc4.1 - Block SIGINT while waiting for children (#177366) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/ 4d83d95e335ad06e7d5d25e3feb5e0a6af9b487e SRPMS/tcsh-6.14-1.fc4.2.src.rpm 64fdad726f42e5fe085f4db9023d0365f6e1ebe6 ppc/tcsh-6.14-1.fc4.2.ppc.rpm 8dfc756692cd1502f65e2fdbcbc3e60b888c39ed ppc/debug/tcsh-debuginfo-6.14-1.fc4.2.ppc.rpm 9ceefcfe87f161bbaf65f025743d29fcffe8495f x86_64/tcsh-6.14-1.fc4.2.x86_64.rpm c7dddad0f7041925ce5d10668f64205f3fa11788 x86_64/debug/tcsh-debuginfo-6.14-1.fc4.2.x86_64.rpm b1ead56a498c6c328e99dfcd07ec0d0e82677c54 i386/tcsh-6.14-1.fc4.2.i386.rpm 2ab5a80916e0471d6e4d3ff45b66d462ae4a552b i386/debug/tcsh-debuginfo-6.14-1.fc4.2.i386.rpm This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Tue Feb 28 03:29:57 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:29:57 -0500 Subject: gnome-power-manager-2.13.92-1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4403C3B5.5030405@insight.rr.com> Don Springall wrote: > After today's update and the last version I no longer see where one sets > at what percent your battery goes to critical. It is no longer off the > power manager icon preferences or in the preferences under menu more > preferences - power management. Is this a feature or a bug ? > > Also the preferences dialog off right clicking the power manager icon is > the same as the menu power management. Do we need two ways to set this ? > > I dislike the removal of the menu for choosing suspend or hibernate. (old issue, no major distraction). I do like the current layout for AC power, battery power and options over the previous layout.. I like the slide controls though pulldown menu choices are fine. Putting back suspend/hibernate in the applet and removing the suspend choice from the system menu would be better in my view. BTW - the battery applet is still available as a choice. I use the battery applet also. Thanks for mentioning the change to g-p-manager. I had some settings set that might cause my computer to go into suspend. I would rather have the computer warn, then power off if the battery charge condition became critical. When suspend works better for more users, suspend would probably be a better default. Having more selectivity is always better to cover more real world conditions. Jim -- Well fix that in the next (upgrade, update, patch release, service pack). From ptiggerdine at astute-systems.com Tue Feb 28 03:58:01 2006 From: ptiggerdine at astute-systems.com (Peter Tiggerdine) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:58:01 +1000 Subject: Social Engineering of Rawhide In-Reply-To: <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <1141099081.3139.70.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> Testers & Developers, I think somewhere along the way netizens appear to think that Rawhide is stable ( or at least for public consumption). I'd think we need to discuss how we can provide more constructive information for developers and send a clear message to non-testers that Rawhide (a.k.a FC5 ) is not for general use. I really don't have any suggestion has to how we can achieve the latter without offending people, but I'm sure someone will. As for the Former, I'm sure I've seen some documentation on how to write constructive e-mails on fedoraproject.org in relation to testing Rawhide and going about debugging. Maybe there's some way of redirecting people to the testing documentation before posting ( or at least posting the right details with associated attachments and what not). I hope this can inspire some constructive ideas to help us all. Peter Tiggerdine. On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 21:21 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Stanton Finley wrote: > > My Intel onboard 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics > > Controller used to run glxgears at blinding speeds with FC4 and I didn't > > even have to install a driver for it on my eMachines T5026. > > The driver comes with FC5 of course. Not sure why you think you need > to install a driver elsewhere. > > > It just worked great out of the box on FC4. Now with FC5 (in the absence > > of glxgears which apparently I can't get on FC5) > > Except that you are wrong, and glxgears is part of FC5. > > > my 3d graphics and > > screensavers run jerkily and seem sluggish. Firefox 1.5 rendering time > > is abysmal compared to Firefox 1.0.7 on FC4 on this same machine. It has > > a 3 GHz P4 processor for heaven's sake. It should run FC5 like the wind. > > That's why it is a test release, to find bugs. Don't use test releases > if you expect flawless OS operation and perfect performance. > > > > -- > Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca > Proud Canadian. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notting at redhat.com Tue Feb 28 03:59:54 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:59:54 -0500 Subject: FC5, progression or regression? In-Reply-To: <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <20060228035954.GA11216@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Mike A. Harris (mharris at mharris.ca) said: > >my 3d graphics and > >screensavers run jerkily and seem sluggish. Firefox 1.5 rendering time > >is abysmal compared to Firefox 1.0.7 on FC4 on this same machine. It has > >a 3 GHz P4 processor for heaven's sake. It should run FC5 like the wind. > > That's why it is a test release, to find bugs. Don't use test releases > if you expect flawless OS operation and perfect performance. However, if it's *significantly* less performance, it could certainly signify something that's wrong. Bill From davej at redhat.com Tue Feb 28 04:08:38 2006 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:08:38 -0500 Subject: FC5, progression or regression? In-Reply-To: <20060228035954.GA11216@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <20060228035954.GA11216@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060228040838.GE22600@redhat.com> On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 10:59:54PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Mike A. Harris (mharris at mharris.ca) said: > > >my 3d graphics and > > >screensavers run jerkily and seem sluggish. Firefox 1.5 rendering time > > >is abysmal compared to Firefox 1.0.7 on FC4 on this same machine. It has > > >a 3 GHz P4 processor for heaven's sake. It should run FC5 like the wind. > > > > That's why it is a test release, to find bugs. Don't use test releases > > if you expect flawless OS operation and perfect performance. > > However, if it's *significantly* less performance, it could certainly > signify something that's wrong. Current kernels still have slab debugging on (Because we still have bugs that this is tripping up that need whacking). The increased overhead of this sucks up memory bandwidth, and I wouldn't be surprised if shared-memory video chipsets feel some pain. Dave From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Tue Feb 28 04:29:30 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:29:30 -0500 Subject: FC5, progression or regression? In-Reply-To: <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <4403D1AA.1090503@insight.rr.com> Mike A. Harris wrote: > Stanton Finley wrote: >> My Intel onboard 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics >> Controller used to run glxgears at blinding speeds with FC4 and I didn't >> even have to install a driver for it on my eMachines T5026. > > The driver comes with FC5 of course. Not sure why you think you need > to install a driver elsewhere. > >> It just worked great out of the box on FC4. Now with FC5 (in the absence > > of glxgears which apparently I can't get on FC5) > > Except that you are wrong, and glxgears is part of FC5. glx-utils by chance? I thought that the program was gone altogether myself. yum install glx-utils glxgears and glxinfo are now both present. Jim -- Well fix that in the next (upgrade, update, patch release, service pack). From jcourie at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 04:54:07 2006 From: jcourie at gmail.com (John courie) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:54:07 -0500 Subject: Social Engineering of Rawhide In-Reply-To: <1141099081.3139.70.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <1141099081.3139.70.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> Message-ID: You could tell them to change enablerepo=0 on the devel repos and then change enablerepo=1 on the base repos and not use that box for 3 weeks. and then say that there are a lot of gifted people working on the (shrinking) bug list. or you could say RTFD ;-) (the wink would probably smooth any ruffled feathers) When my friends ask I tell them to specifically wait for livna to go to 5 or migrate to ogg like I did. I know this seems flippant, but I think there is an profound insight in that idea. -- --------------------- |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| From dmutters at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 04:49:27 2006 From: dmutters at gmail.com (Dane Mutters) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:49:27 -0800 Subject: Samba server configuration program chokes on highly-customized/missing smb.conf Message-ID: <200602272049.27582.dmutters@gmail.com> I've been messing with the samba server settings on my FC5T3 box and I've found that if I have a highly-customized or missing smb.conf, the GUI Samba configuration tool will fail to open (for a highly-customized smb.conf) or crash upon adding a share (for a non-existant smb.conf). I think that a more reasonable behavior would be to have it prompt the user to overwrite, then if the user agrees, copy over /usr/share/system-config-samba/smb.conf.template to /etc/samba/smb.conf, and then act normally. Also, I've found that even a little customization is lost if I make any changes at all using the configuration tool. Shouldn't the user be prompted before overwriting his/her hand-made changes? What do you all think? --Dane From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Feb 28 04:58:46 2006 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:58:46 -0600 Subject: First time boot screen? Message-ID: <1141102726.2657.2.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> Every time I reboot, the splash screen that covers up the details has a moment when it displays "first boot startup" or something similar to that. My understanding of "first boot" is that it happens once just after install, not on every boot. If that is correct, then that segment of the startup is mislabeled. Gerry From ivg2 at cornell.edu Tue Feb 28 05:13:58 2006 From: ivg2 at cornell.edu (Ivan Gyurdiev) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:13:58 -0500 Subject: Read-write samba share not writable in FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <200602271731.15705.dmutters@gmail.com> References: <200602271645.13622.dmutters@gmail.com> <1141088967.4693.11.camel@ignacio.lan> <200602271731.15705.dmutters@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4403DC16.9010407@cornell.edu> > I tried several combinations of SELinux options, and eventually just disabled > SELinux protection for all the Samba-related daemons. That fixed it. Should > this be considered a bug/something to be fixed? It seems to me that the > average user just wanting to share a few files won't know how to/want to mess > with the security settings. > Have you tried labeling the samba share with the correct security context (I think it's samba_share_t?). See "man samba_selinux". I don't think you should pay attention to the line that mentions editing a config file - that's most likely out of date, and misleading. Just like you have to set the proper Unix permissions to make Samba sharing work, you also have to set the proper Selinux permissions on a SELinux-enabled system. There's also an old bug about this issue that I filed long ago, which suggests integration between system-config-samba and selinux: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=144513 I am currently working on nautilus integration with selinux, so maybe that could also be helpful. From skunkworx at verizon.net Tue Feb 28 05:36:38 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:36:38 -0800 Subject: fc5t3 suspend option soft lockup Message-ID: <4403E166.9020909@verizon.net> I have a desktop PC and am trying fc5t3. It's fully yum updated. For fun, I tried System->Shutdown->Suspend. I get a text screen and : Stopping tasks :===<3> BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! Pid: 643, comm cx88 tvaudio (then a register dump i guess...) I have to reset the PC to get it back up. I guess this is a feature for laptops or something? Anyway, thought I'd mention it. The box is a mini PC, IDEQ Biostar 210V. # rpm -qa | grep kernel kernel-2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 -- SW From skunkworx at verizon.net Tue Feb 28 05:56:02 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:56:02 -0800 Subject: fc5t3 usb disk or disk-1? Message-ID: <4403E5F2.1030300@verizon.net> My external usb hard drive is showing up on /media/disk-1 rather than /media/disk (as it used to). # mount | grep disk /dev/sda1 on /media/disk-1 type ext2 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) Does this seem unusual? It seems like this recently changed. -- SW From dmutters at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 06:17:32 2006 From: dmutters at gmail.com (Dane Mutters) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:17:32 -0800 Subject: Shutdown does not power off system In-Reply-To: <440275A7.6070903@insight.rr.com> References: <20060226181122.60859.qmail@web30212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <440275A7.6070903@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <200602272217.32356.dmutters@gmail.com> On Sunday 26 February 2006 07:44 pm, Jim Cornette wrote: > Well fix that in the next (upgrade, update, patch release, service pack). Sure enough, while I too was having that problem, an update fixed it. :-) --Dane From perbj at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 28 06:21:29 2006 From: perbj at sbcglobal.net (Per Bjornsson) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:21:29 -0800 Subject: Upgrade report, FC4+updates -> FC5t3 Message-ID: <1141107690.26760.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I recently did an upgrade installation of FC5 test 3 on top of my fully updated FC4 system. I ran into a couple of things that I haven't seen reported here but that I'm not really sure are useful to file as bugs, at least not before some discussion. Problems: * Gnome-panel wouldn't start until I removed the old .gnome2/session file. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183318 * NetworkManager works great with wired networking but can't get my wireless card to associate - this worked great in FC4. (I can manually get association and a DHCP IP address by using iwconfig an dhclient.) This is using the Madwifi driver, so treat as you wish. No encryption; the only limitation turned on on the router is MAC restrictions. I don't really have a feeling for how to submit a useful bug report for this one. Surprises (more discussion points than bugs maybe?): * Xscreensaver did not get replaced by gnome-screensaver, as I had expected. * No gnome-power-manager - shouldn't this be default-included on an upgrade? * Gnome help system claims to need Beagle but that is not installed. Dependency bug? If Beagle/Mono is considered to be too heavy a dep to pull in everywhere, would it be possible to select between a simple search system and a Beagle- based one dynamically at runtime depending on whether or not Beagle is installed (or I guess rather whether beagle is running)? As far as I have understood, upstream Gnome doesn't actually have any hard deps on anything Mono? * Even after I installed Beagle. it didn't start automatically in the Gnome session. On another note, I haven't had particularly much luck with Xair just yet, I did get it to work but it's slow and hangs quite a lot unfortunately. Cool stuff though, I'm glad to see this happening! :) Cheers, Per From dmutters at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 06:14:46 2006 From: dmutters at gmail.com (Dane Mutters) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:14:46 -0800 Subject: Read-write samba share not writable in FC5T3 In-Reply-To: <4403DC16.9010407@cornell.edu> References: <200602271645.13622.dmutters@gmail.com> <200602271731.15705.dmutters@gmail.com> <4403DC16.9010407@cornell.edu> Message-ID: <200602272214.46839.dmutters@gmail.com> On Monday 27 February 2006 09:13 pm, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > Have you tried labeling the samba share with the correct security > context (I think it's samba_share_t?). See "man samba_selinux". I don't > think you should pay attention to the line that mentions editing a > config file - that's most likely out of date, and misleading. > > Just like you have to set the proper Unix permissions to make Samba > sharing work, you also have to set the proper Selinux permissions on a > SELinux-enabled system. > > There's also an old bug about this issue that I filed long ago, which > suggests integration between system-config-samba and selinux: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=144513 > > I am currently working on nautilus integration with selinux, so maybe > that could also be helpful. Thanks for the tip! Now the shares are working OK with SELinux enabled. I agree that there should be some integration between system-config-samba and SELinux. Let me know if you need a tester for your integration project(s). --Dane From e1geo at yahoo.com Tue Feb 28 06:36:57 2006 From: e1geo at yahoo.com (George Hill) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:36:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: adding port using system-config-securitylevel Message-ID: <20060228063658.83599.qmail@web53605.mail.yahoo.com> When I run system-config-securitylevel, Firewall Options tab, open the Other ports section of the window, and click add, the Add Port window pops up. The label for the top text box is Port(s) but I am unable to enter more than one port. I have tried separating port numbers with commas and spaces. Is there a way to enter multiple ports here or should the (s) be dropped? Thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From pato.lukaz at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 07:28:22 2006 From: pato.lukaz at gmail.com (Alberto Patino) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:28:22 -0600 Subject: bcm43xx driver on FC5T3 driver doesn't work and freeze my machine. Message-ID: <4489a22a0602272328t7af1ffe1p90f040e2c686c657@mail.gmail.com> Hi! I'am very excited with the inclusion of the bcm43xx driver in FC5 , I want to replace the venerable but awkward ndiswrapper driver, unfortunately the driver doesn't work for me and freeze my computer: I have a laptop DELL Precision M60 with : # lspci -vvv ... 02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1350 WLAN Mini-PCI Card Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- SERR- Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx driver Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:03.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5 Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Chip ID 0x4306, rev 0x3 Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Number of cores: 5 Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Core 0: ID 0x800, rev 0x4, vendor 0x4243, enabled Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Core 1: ID 0x812, rev 0x5, vendor 0x4243, disabled Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Core 2: ID 0x80d, rev 0x2, vendor 0x4243, enabled Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Core 3: ID 0x807, rev 0x2, vendor 0x4243, disabled Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Core 4: ID 0x804, rev 0x9, vendor 0x4243, enabled Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: PHY connected Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Detected PHY: Version: 2, Type 2, Revision 2 Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Detected Radio: ID: 2205017f (Manuf: 17f Ver: 2050 Rev: 2) Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Radio turned off Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Radio turned off Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x3d4-0x4ff: clean. Feb 27 23:38:25 amturing kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x3c0-0x3d2: clean. Feb 28 00:10:38 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Radio turned off Feb 28 00:10:38 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: DMA 0x0200 (RX) max used slots: 0/64 Feb 28 00:10:38 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: DMA 0x0260 (TX) max used slots: 0/512 Feb 28 00:10:38 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: DMA 0x0240 (TX) max used slots: 0/512 Feb 28 00:10:38 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: DMA 0x0220 (TX) max used slots: 0/512 Feb 28 00:10:38 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: DMA 0x0200 (TX) max used slots: 0/512 Feb 28 00:11:32 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: set security called Feb 28 00:11:32 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: .active_key = 0 Feb 28 00:11:32 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: .level = 1 Feb 28 00:11:32 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: .enabled = 1 Feb 28 00:11:32 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: .encrypt = 1 Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: set security called Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: .active_key = 0 Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: .level = 1 Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: .enabled = 1 Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: .encrypt = 1 Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: SoftMAC: Associate: Scanning for networks first. Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: SoftMAC: Associate: failed to initiate scan. Is device up? Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: PHY connected Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Radio turned on Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Chip initialized Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: DMA initialized Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: 80211 cores initialized Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: Keys cleared Feb 28 00:22:03 amturing kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready I tried disabling encription in my AP but this didn't work neither. By the way my acces point is a 2Wire Appliance Other messages that i recover from messages before a freeze: Freeze n-2: Feb 27 22:56:35 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: ASSERTION FAILED (0) at: drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_main.c:403:bcm43xx_plcp_get_bitrate() Feb 27 23:08:09 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: ASSERTION FAILED (0) at: drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_main.c:403:bcm43xx_plcp_get_bitrate() Freeze n-1: Feb 27 23:32:35 amturing kernel: bcm43xx: ASSERTION FAILED (0) at: drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_main.c:403:bcm43xx_plcp_get_bitrate() I'd like to fix the problem, but I don't know what else to do! Thanks for your help Alberto Patino From mike at miketc.com Tue Feb 28 08:16:41 2006 From: mike at miketc.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 02:16:41 -0600 Subject: Social Engineering of Rawhide In-Reply-To: <1141099081.3139.70.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <1141099081.3139.70.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> Message-ID: <1141114601.8249.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 13:58 +1000, Peter Tiggerdine wrote: > Maybe there's some way of redirecting people to the testing > documentation before posting ( or at least posting the right details > with associated attachments and what not). Mailman can be setup to send a certain email (I think) when someone joins the list, and can include documentation, a link, or whatever so at least they were warned when joining. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. Happens all the time and not much you can do about it. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt, then it's hilarious!" From buildsys at redhat.com Tue Feb 28 08:19:06 2006 From: buildsys at redhat.com (Build System) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 03:19:06 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060228 changes Message-ID: <200602280819.k1S8J6eT009069@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Removed package libibverbs Removed package opensm Removed package libsdp Removed package udapl Removed package libmthca Updated Packages: GConf-1.0.9-20 -------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Karsten Hopp 1.0.9-20 - BuildRequires zlib-devel * Fri Feb 24 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.0.9-19 - Prereq: coreutils * Mon Feb 13 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.9-18.2.1 - rebump for build order issues during double-long bump NetworkManager-0.5.1-15.cvs20060227 ----------------------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Christopher Aillon 0.5.1-15.cvs20060227 - Update snapshot, which fixes up the libnotify stuff. anaconda-10.92.12-1 ------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Jeremy Katz - 10.92.12-1 - Dependency whiteout to fix ordering (clumens) - Fix swap on RAID in kickstart (#176537) - Add keymap overrides - Fix segfault with USB CD/DVD drives (#182589) at-spi-1.7.6-1 -------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.7.6-1 - Update to 1.7.6 authconfig-5.2.2-1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 27 2006 Tomas Mraz - 5.2.2-1 - add try_first_pass option to pam_unix for better integration with individual service configurations (#182350) - updated translations boost-1.33.1-5 -------------- * Thu Feb 16 2006 Florian La Roche - 1.33.1-5 - use the real version number to point to the shared libs booty-0.68-1 ------------ * Mon Feb 27 2006 Peter Jones - 0.68-1 - sync between invocations of grub on smp - default to "mbr", not "partition" for grub installation on md bug-buddy-1:2.13.90-1 --------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.90-1 - Update to 2.13.90 * Fri Feb 17 2006 Karsten Hopp 2.13.0-2 - BuildRequires: which cryptsetup-luks-1.0.3-0.rc2 --------------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Bill Nottingham 1.0.3-0.rc2 - update to 1.0.3rc2, fixes bug with HAL & encrypted devices (#182658) eel2-2.13.92-1 -------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 epiphany-1.9.8-1 ---------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 1.9.8-1 - Update to 1.9.8 evince-0.5.1-1 -------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 0.5.1-1 - Update to 0.5.1 - Drop upstreamed patch file-roller-2.13.92-1 --------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 g-wrap-1.9.6-2 -------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Bill Nottingham 1.9.6-2 - don't use an executable stack (#183287) gal-1:0.24-7 ------------ * Mon Feb 27 2006 Karsten Hopp 0.24-7 - BuildRequires: libSM-devel gcc-4.1.0-0.30 -------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Jakub Jelinek 4.1.0-0.30 - update from gcc-4_1-branch (-r111278:111466) - GCC 4.1.0 RC2 - PRs fortran/26201, libobjc/26309, rtl-optimization/25603, target/25603 - fix nested vector shifts (#182047, PR middle-end/26379) - merge gomp changes from trunk (-r111390:111391, -r111428:111429 and -r111440:111441) - PR middle-end/26412 - fortran MATMUL optimization (Richard Sandiford) - fortran WHERE optimizations (Roger Sayle) - x86_64 _mm_monitor fixes (H.J. Lu, PR target/24879) - add MNI support on i?86/x86_64, -mmni option and header (H.J Lu) gnome-bluetooth-0.7.0-2 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Harald Hoyer - 0.7.0-2 - pydir fixes for lib64 * Thu Feb 16 2006 Harald Hoyer - 0.7.0-1 - version 0.7.0 gnome-desktop-2.13.92-1 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 gnome-doc-utils-0.5.7-1 ----------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 0.5.7-1 - Update to 0.5.7 gnome-keyring-0.4.8-1 --------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 0.4.8-1 - Update to 0.4.8 gnome-media-2.13.93-1 --------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.93-1 - Update to 2.13.93 gnome-panel-2.13.91-4 --------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Ray Strode - 2.13.91-4 - ignore unknown options (bug 182734) gnome-screensaver-2.13.92-1 --------------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 gnome-system-monitor-2.13.92-1 ------------------------------ * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 gnome-vfs2-2.13.92-1 -------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 irqbalance-1:1.12-1.25 ---------------------- * Sun Feb 26 2006 Dave Jones - Don't rebalance IRQs where no interrupts have occured. kernel-2.6.15-1.1991_FC5 ------------------------ * Mon Feb 27 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc5 & rc5-git1 * Sun Feb 26 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc4-git9 & -git10 - Temporarily disable xen due to build breakage. * Sat Feb 25 2006 Dave Jones - 2.6.16rc4-git8 libgnome-2.13.90-1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.90-1 - Update to 2.13.90 - Drop obsolete patch libgnomeui-2.13.90-1 -------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.90-1 - Update to 2.13.90 libgtop2-2.13.92-1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 libtermcap-2.0.8-45 ------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Miloslav Trmac - 2.0.8-45 - Add Requires(postun): /sbin/install-info to libtermcap-devel (#182836) libvirt-0.0.5-1 --------------- * Thu Feb 23 2006 Daniel Veillard 0.0.5-1 - new domain creation API - new UUID based APIs - more tests, documentation, devhelp - bug fixes libwnck-2.13.92-1 ----------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 mkinitrd-5.0.29-1 ----------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Peter Jones - 5.0.29-1 - Fix pump-devel buildrequires - Fix grubby's getpathbyspec() usage (#183010) - Fix grubby's makefile - Make readlink command work with super scary huge sysfs paths (#183091) - Make readlink handle directories better (#166666) - Don't create ramdisk blockdevs, mkblkdevs does it (#181873) - Don't use showlabels to resolve labels, use resolveDevice so we don't need messy awk (#180372) mod_python-3.2.8-3 ------------------ * Mon Feb 27 2006 Joe Orton 3.2.8-3 - remove use of apr_sockaddr_port_get * Mon Feb 27 2006 Joe Orton 3.2.8-2 - update to 3.2.8 nautilus-2.13.92-1 ------------------ * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 * Mon Feb 13 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.91-1 - Update to 2.13.91 * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 2.13.90-2.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) nautilus-cd-burner-2.13.92-1 ---------------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Matthias Clasen - 2.13.92-1 - Update to 2.13.92 - Drop upstreamed patch - Add BuildReq for gnome-mount openobex-1.1-1 -------------- * Thu Feb 16 2006 Harald Hoyer 1.1-1 - version 1.1 * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-4.2.1 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 1.0.1-4.2 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes openobex-apps-1.0.0-10 ---------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Harald Hoyer - 1.0.0-10 - rebuilt for openobex-1.1 * Thu Feb 16 2006 Harald Hoyer - 1.0.0-9 - rebuilt for openobex-1.1 pam-0.99.3.0-2 -------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Tomas Mraz 0.99.3.0-2 - added try_first_pass option to pam_cracklib - use try_first_pass for pam_unix and pam_cracklib in system-auth (#182350) * Fri Feb 10 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.99.3.0-1.2 - bump again for double-long bug on ppc(64) * Tue Feb 07 2006 Jesse Keating - 0.99.3.0-1.1 - rebuilt for new gcc4.1 snapshot and glibc changes pirut-0.9.16-1 -------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Jeremy Katz - 0.9.16-1 - Fix optional package searching (#182555) - Catch errors when downloading metadata (#178641) - Some UI changes from Simon Lanzmich (#182644) - More UI changes from jrb psacct-6.3.2-41 --------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Peter Jones - 6.3.2-41 - add touch to prereq * Mon Feb 27 2006 Ivana Varekova - 6.3.2-40 - add chkconfig to prereq - bug 182848 struts-0:1.2.8-2jpp_9fc ----------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Rafael Schloming - 0:1.2.8-2jpp_9fc - Removed the webapps-tomcat{3,4} subpackages. system-switch-mail-0.5.25-7 --------------------------- * Mon Feb 27 2006 Than Ngo 0.5.25-7 - fix consolehelper config #160931 tomcat5-0:5.5.15-1jpp_3fc ------------------------- * Thu Feb 23 2006 Rafael Schloming - 0:5.5.15-1jpp_3fc - Added jasper-foo symlinks for jars. * Wed Feb 22 2006 Rafael Schloming - 0:5.5.15-1jpp_2fc - Exclude ppc64 s390 s390x * Wed Feb 22 2006 Rafael Schloming - 0:5.5.15-1jpp_1fc - Updated to 5.5.15 util-linux-2.13-0.16 -------------------- * Wed Feb 22 2006 Karel Zak 2.13-0.16 - fix #181782 - mkswap should automatically add selinux label to swapfile - fix #180730 - col is exiting with 1 (fix util-linux-2.12p-col-EILSEQ.patch) - fix #181896 - broken example in schedutils man pages - fix #177331 - login omits pam_acct_mgmt & pam_chauthtok when authentication is skipped. - fix #177523 - umount -a should not unmount sysfs - fix #182553 - fdisk -l inside xen guest shows no disks wpa_supplicant-1:0.4.8-1 ------------------------ * Fri Feb 24 2006 Dan Williams - 0.4.8-1 - Downgrade to 0.4.8 stable release rather than a dev release xorg-x11-fonts-7.0-2 -------------------- * Fri Feb 24 2006 Mike A. Harris 7.0-2 - Generate encodings.dir files in the encodings dirs with mkfontscale from the base fonts package post install script, to work around bug (#173875) Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5smp Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ia64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6 vconfig - 1.9-1.1.ppc64 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1 rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390 requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1 Broken deps for s390x ---------------------------------------------------------- rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstcontrol-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstreamer-0.8.so.1()(64bit) rhythmbox - 0.8.8-2.s390x requires libgstgconf-0.8.so.0()(64bit) Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 GFS-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.4.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 cman-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.11.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 dlm-kernel - 2.6.15.0-20051219.162641.FC5.9.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 gnbd-kernel - 2.6.15-5.FC5.7.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1955_FC5 From patrick at wudika.de Tue Feb 28 09:45:15 2006 From: patrick at wudika.de (Patrick von der Hagen) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:45:15 +0100 Subject: bcm43xx driver on FC5T3 driver doesn't work and freeze my machine. In-Reply-To: <4489a22a0602272328t7af1ffe1p90f040e2c686c657@mail.gmail.com> References: <4489a22a0602272328t7af1ffe1p90f040e2c686c657@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44041BAB.3010606@wudika.de> Alberto Patino wrote: > Hi! > I'am very excited with the inclusion of the bcm43xx driver in FC5 , I > want to replace the venerable but awkward ndiswrapper driver, > unfortunately the driver doesn't work for me and freeze my computer: > > I have a laptop DELL Precision M60 with : [...] > I'd like to fix the problem, but I don't know what else to do! You are lucky, my Dell Precision M60 freezes as soon as the module is loaded and so far I failed to get any valuable information in syslog. However, bcm43xx isn't really considered stable, is it? So I just delete the bcm43xx-module after each kernel-update to avoid having it activated by fedora and stick to ndiswrapper. You should probably report your problesm to the bcm43xx-developers https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev instead of fedora-testing, because it seems to be unlikely that this issue is fedora-specific. -- CU, Patrick. From b.king at surrey.ac.uk Tue Feb 28 10:44:05 2006 From: b.king at surrey.ac.uk (Bevis R W King) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:44:05 +0000 Subject: Problems with NIS/YP and seemingly endless do_ypcall: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out In-Reply-To: <20060227153444.GA30490@redhat.com> References: <1141037965.2749.147.camel@ephiny.ee.surrey.ac.uk> <20060227153444.GA30490@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1141123445.2749.225.camel@ephiny.ee.surrey.ac.uk> Joe On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 15:34 +0000, Joe Orton wrote: > I had a similarly weird NIS problem with a Raw Hide install of a few > weeks ago. In my case (see the mail archive) ypbind would never receive > anything from the server at all, so failed to bind, logging that same > RPC timeout message. I take it that much does work reliably for you? I don't think that's the problem because then the other yp tools would not work perfectly. But they do - ypwhich, ypcat, ypmatch all seem to work just fine and at normal speed. I've tried it with and without nscd running. > ypbind-1.19-0.i386 This is the version I'm running. > glibc-2.3.90-38.i686 > kernel-2.6.15-1.1915_FC5.i686 I'm looking at the nsswitch.conf again - I'm wondering if the nis lookup of hosts is broken in some way - that would explain the eventual success, ie once the NIS has timed out. I'll try putting the entries as: files dns nis instead of: files nis dns This is not ideal for us because there are things in our nis hosts tables which we don't necessarily make externally visible through the DNS - mostly service based aliases. Regards, Bevis. From redtux1 at googlemail.com Tue Feb 28 11:32:27 2006 From: redtux1 at googlemail.com (Mike Martin) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:32:27 +0000 Subject: Issues with test 3 In-Reply-To: <1141093342.4115.111.camel@eagle.lab.net> References: <1141093342.4115.111.camel@eagle.lab.net> Message-ID: On 2/28/06, Jeff Vian wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 11:12 +0000, Mike Martin wrote: > > Hi > > > > I installed test 3 last night and I have the following issues > > > > 1. Bash scripts not picking up varaiable eg: > > > > this (very simple) script > > > > ffmpeg -i $2 -b $1 $3 > > > > when run results in a message from ffmpeg about io error (no file) > > > Is this run from the command line? If so then $1, $2, and $3 have no > values. These variables are initialized from the command like making > the call and exist only within the script environment. > > for example > script 1 2 3 > would call a script named script and within that script the variables > $1, $2, and $3 would have the values 1, 2, and 3 respectively. > > If you are calling a script that then calls ffmpeg with the line given > then that should work. > > sorry not to be clearer but that is what I am doing - the script worked before upgrading the script is #!/bin/bash ffmpeg -i $2 -b $1 $3 this is run as script name number input file output file > > > 2. Naulitlus burn gives no chance to change burn speed > > > > 3. On an exiting user account menu entries are sparse (ie some > > installed apps missing) > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From fct-cornette at insight.rr.com Tue Feb 28 11:44:41 2006 From: fct-cornette at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:44:41 -0500 Subject: rpm verify fails bigtime - prelink errors x1000+ In-Reply-To: <4402FD0B.4030409@bigpond.net.au> References: <4402FD0B.4030409@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <440437A9.7030003@insight.rr.com> David Timms wrote: > The machine i'm on is a FC5test2 install kept up2date with pup. > > On recommendation from someone on the list to verify the rpm install > using: rpm -Va, I found a few items: mainly missing files- > missing /usr/share/system-config-soundcard/probeCard.pyc > missing /usr/share/system-config-soundcard/soundcard.pyc > missing /usr/share/system-config-soundcard/soundcardBackend.pyc > missing /usr/share/system-config-soundcard/system-config > I guess this could be a problem so I: rpm -Uvh --force > system-config-soundcard(-v currently installed). This cleared the > problem up, ie no result for rpm -V sy-co-so... > > missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/browser > missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/browser/content > missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/browser/skin > missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/cookie > missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/cookie/content > missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/editor > missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/editor/content > missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/global > missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/global/content > missing /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/chrome/overlayinfo/global/skin > Repeat same with mozilla. > Repeated the rpm -V mozilla, and same files are still marked missing! > > missing /usr/share/system-config-display/dpiDialog.pyc > missing /usr/share/system-config-display/monitorDialog.pyc > missing /usr/share/system-config-display/screenSizePreview.pyc > missing /usr/share/system-config-display/videocardDialog.pyc > missing /usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.pyc > missing /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.pyc > >retired after a few days: and pup updates- > [root at davidthome packages]# rpm -V system-config-display > missing /usr/share/system-config-display/dpiDialog.pyc > .M.....T. /usr/share/system-config-display/monitorDialog.pyc > .M.....T. /usr/share/system-config-display/screenSizePreview.pyc > .M.....T. /usr/share/system-config-display/videocardDialog.pyc > .M.....T. /usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.pyc > missing /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.pyc > < > > Between about wednesday last week (first version) and the weekend the > system-config-display files went from missing to modified ! > Is this to be expected ? > Why would an installed python code be different to what came out of the > RPM ? > > prelink: /usr/sbin/bonobo-activation-sysconf: at least one of file's > dependencies has changed since prelinking > S.?...... /usr/sbin/bonobo-activation-sysconf > prelink: /usr/lib/libdmx.so.1.0.0: at least one of file's dependencies > has changed since prelinking > S.?...... /usr/lib/libdmx.so.1.0.0 > prelink: /usr/bin/nc: at least one of file's dependencies has changed > since prelinking > S.?...... /usr/bin/nc > prelink: /usr/bin/chage: at least one of file's dependencies has changed > since prelinking > *** the above error has also been listed more than one thousand times. > Should this error ever be seen ? > When new binaries/libraries are installed (pup), doesn't yum trigger a > prelink run ? > What steps to take to clear the error ? > > Thanks for any info, DaveT. > The prelink message is very hard to determine what missing components you have from terminal output. I redirected the output to a file and ended up with the attached. The prelink messages to terminal are not directly from rpm. I believe prelink is in conjunction, since the output is not contained in the redirected output. Also, you must be root to see chrooted and firewall or high security related files in rpm output. What I do is to located packages that fail, rpm -e --justdb the entry and then yum install the package again. System-config- seem to be high on the failure listings. Jim -- Well fix that in the next (upgrade, update, patch release, service pack). -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: mia-rpms.txt URL: From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 28 11:47:35 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:47:35 +1100 Subject: NFS install of FC5 T3 In-Reply-To: <1141043254.17946.8.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <1141040432.3806.13.camel@BillMurray> <1141043254.17946.8.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <44043857.2050607@bigpond.net.au> Bob Chiodini wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 11:40 +0000, William John Murray wrote: >> Hello there, >> For the second, I tried the same, and it said the directory did not >> contain a Fedora installation. So I read the README, which says to >> unpack the iso files. I really don't think I did that the first time, >> but never mind. Done. The installation started, then complained there >> was no 'repomd' information. So I copied that as well - but if it is >> needed it should be in the README. >> >> Which is correct? Am I dreaming that unpacking the ISO was not needed? >> Bill For ftp install I copied each iso to the same folder, created subfolders named fc5/disc1 disc2 disc3 disc4 disc5, and then mount -o loop each one. In the ftp install you get asked the ftp server address, and the folder containing the install. In the folder path you put the path fc5 folder name. The installer first guesses you have the whole (dvd) tree there, but when it doesn't find the whole thing there it also tries the /disc1 etc path, at the same folder level. This can be seen be going to the ctrl-alt-F3 or F4 terminals, as it tries it. I have never tried an nfs install, so it may be different. Make sure the nfs is shared with appropriate rights! DaveT. From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 11:59:52 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:59:52 -0500 Subject: kbeaglebar - a simple kde i/f to beagle Message-ID: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=35781 From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 28 12:48:03 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:48:03 +1100 Subject: fc5t3+ k3b used CD-RW's fail on erase/rewrite Message-ID: <44044683.70509@bigpond.net.au> With relation to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179213 I see the same issue. The CD RW is automounted since it already has data on it: you want to erase and reuse the disk. The workaround for me is to manually umount via a terminal: this is not a user thing to be doing. There used to be a thing called ~"user mount tools" that you could unmount stuff with, I doesn't seem to be installed / no longer packaged ?. Also there is an options tool for removable media where you could disable automount - but this is not what you want either. So the question is where should this issue be addressed ? - gnome's automount - there is an icon on the desktop, right clicking in this incarnation (was OK FC4 I think - unmount) provides an eject option; but this ejects the disc, at which point you can't erase it. Re-inserting causes the automount. Enough to drive sane people over the wall ;-) A solution would be for the automounted CD's context menu to provide an Unmount command. simple/obvious (if the desktop is visible), does not require users to do command line hacks. - k3b - is it up to k3b to forcefully unmount the CD-RW so that erase / write process can begin (or at least list exactly what is holding it from unmounting the disk so that erase can start). It probably needs better interpretation of error codes received to state to user how to fix the problem, rather than failing (a bad impression). And a button to instruct k3b to "really" unmount it (no matter what), when the error occurs. - is it up2 the cdrecord tools to unmount it ? [no workarounds - only permanent user usable solutions] DaveT. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 28 13:06:39 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:06:39 +1100 Subject: Samba server configuration program chokes on highly-customized/missing smb.conf In-Reply-To: <200602272049.27582.dmutters@gmail.com> References: <200602272049.27582.dmutters@gmail.com> Message-ID: <44044ADF.4080002@bigpond.net.au> Dane Mutters wrote: > I've been messing with the samba server settings on my FC5T3 box and I've > found that if I have a highly-customized or missing smb.conf, the GUI Samba > configuration tool will fail to open (for a highly-customized smb.conf) or > crash upon adding a share (for a non-existant smb.conf). > I think that a more reasonable behavior would be to have it prompt the user > to overwrite, then if the user agrees, copy > over /usr/share/system-config-samba/smb.conf.template to /etc/samba/smb.conf, > and then act normally. > Also, I've found that even a little customization is lost if I make any > changes at all using the configuration tool. Shouldn't the user be prompted > before overwriting his/her hand-made changes? > > What do you all think? Not overwrite, but backup! Probably better to not try to mess with it (think about a companies domain server with thousands of users - you wouldn't want this nuked!), and provide a button to display in gedit for the user to fix (assume s/he unfixed it). Anyway, some earlier issues found / fixed wi sy-co-sa: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=143291 From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 28 13:07:23 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 05:07:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: fc5t3 usb disk or disk-1? In-Reply-To: <4403E5F2.1030300@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20060228130723.45166.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> --- Skunk Worx wrote: > My external usb hard drive is showing up on > /media/disk-1 rather than > /media/disk (as it used to). > > # mount | grep disk > /dev/sda1 on /media/disk-1 type ext2 > (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) > > Does this seem unusual? It seems like this recently > changed. This happens to media that you unmount and remount again. If you unmount again and remount the names will change to /media/disk-2, /media/disk-3, /media/disk-4/, ..., etc. This has been occurring in FC5T2 also. Best Regards, Antonio > > -- > SW > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 28 13:15:14 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:15:14 +1100 Subject: fc5t3 suspend option soft lockup In-Reply-To: <4403E166.9020909@verizon.net> References: <4403E166.9020909@verizon.net> Message-ID: <44044CE2.4080307@bigpond.net.au> Skunk Worx wrote: > I have a desktop PC and am trying fc5t3. It's fully yum updated. For > fun, I tried System->Shutdown->Suspend. I get a text screen and : > > Stopping tasks :===<3> BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! > > Pid: 643, comm cx88 tvaudio > (then a register dump i guess...) > > I have to reset the PC to get it back up. I guess this is a feature for > laptops or something? Also desktops - eg knock of tonite, suspending your machine, and restart - quickly tomorrow with everything how you left it :-) Nice in theory, but from other mentions here, a majority of BIOS don't meet the specification for suspend; meaning that workarounds are required per dodgy bios (which would be a huge effort). The machines that it works on meet spec. Sometimes a BIOS update is released by manufacturer that improves support for suspend. It would be nice to have FC "test" for succesful suspend/resume, and pop a dialog if it's previously failed suggesting that unless things have changed, "kids - do not try this at home". A successful resume would change the config to no longer show the message. Also, default the dialog to warn after initial install. DaveT. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 28 13:20:57 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:20:57 +1100 Subject: adding port using system-config-securitylevel In-Reply-To: <20060228063658.83599.qmail@web53605.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060228063658.83599.qmail@web53605.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44044E39.7050400@bigpond.net.au> George Hill wrote: > When I run system-config-securitylevel, Firewall > Options tab, open the Other ports section of the > window, and click add, the Add Port window pops up. > The label for the top text box is Port(s) but I am > unable to enter more than one port. I have tried > separating port numbers with commas and spaces. Is > there a way to enter multiple ports here or should the > (s) be dropped? Thanks. Works for me: Add Port|4000-4009|TCP|OK Repeat to do non-sequential ports! This is nicer than the previous incarnation, where you put them all on one line, with commas. DaveT. From jpearson42 at wowway.com Tue Feb 28 13:25:52 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:25:52 -0500 Subject: adding port using system-config-securitylevel In-Reply-To: <20060228063658.83599.qmail@web53605.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060228063658.83599.qmail@web53605.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200602280825.52401.jpearson42@wowway.com> On Tuesday 28 February 2006 1:36 am, George Hill wrote: > When I run system-config-securitylevel, Firewall > Options tab, open the Other ports section of the > window, and click add, the Add Port window pops up. > The label for the top text box is Port(s) but I am > unable to enter more than one port. I have tried > separating port numbers with commas and spaces. Is > there a way to enter multiple ports here or should the > (s) be dropped? Thanks. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com What I did was to open a range of ports for vnc connections with the argument 5900-5903. I think that disjunct sets might have to be entered as individual arguments. -Jpearson From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 28 13:43:50 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:43:50 +1100 Subject: Shutting down with an automounted CD - giving errors Message-ID: <44045396.5050005@bigpond.net.au> Last few days I have left a CD-RW in my CD drive. When I shutdown, I notice an extended delay before shutdown (15 secs maybe). I checked the shutdown log and found errors where umount of the CD is failing. The disc in question is the Fedora core 5 t 1 disc 1 (i think). The automount icon on the desktop shows: FC_5-Test1 i386 The umount error is putting ~ /x040 where the space is in the volume name. It then repeats this every few seconds until it finally does a shutdown disks and power off, which works. Does this occur for anyone else ? I so, what component do startup/shutdown scripts belong to ? DaveT. From ben.steeves at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 13:44:14 2006 From: ben.steeves at gmail.com (Ben Steeves) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:44:14 -0400 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <4401DB66.1050500@yahoo.co.uk> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <7ebb24d10602260808n29506509h74d81b621f0bbb@mail.gmail.com> <4401DB66.1050500@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <7ebb24d10602280544p7ef7e097p44cb9389fb6dc807@mail.gmail.com> On 2/26/06, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 02/26/2006 04:08 PM, Ben Steeves wrote: > >DVDs are sadly another matter, but even then my > > failure rate has been about 5-8%, not too shabby really, and that was > > on an older DVD burner. > > I've had mixed results with DVD burning due to questionable media > quality. The moment I switched to Taiyo Yuden-based Verbatims I have > 100% success rate! Make sure you buy good quality media (e.g. not all > Verbatims are good either!) -- see "Blank Media & Quality FAQ" Ironically, with my older LG single-layer burner, I burned a lot more DVD coasters with brand-name Memorex discs than I did with no-name discs. On my new Samsung dual-layer burner, I haven't burned any coasters* except when something external happened (like droping the X server out from under the shell running the burn -- accidentally of course :-). *with single-layer media, that is. I have yet to try dual-layer media. PS: I use growisofs from the command line for all my DVD burning needs, and cdrecord for CD burning (also from the shell). I don't need no steenkin' GUI. :-) Ben -- _ Ben Steeves bcs at metacon.ca ( ) The ASCII ribbon campaign ben.steeves at unb.ca X against HTML e-mail GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 / \ http://www.metacon.ca/ascii Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 28 11:59:07 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:59:07 +1100 Subject: FC5, glxgears is there In-Reply-To: <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <44043B0B.1080101@bigpond.net.au> Mike A. Harris wrote: > Stanton Finley wrote: >> It just worked great out of the box on FC4. Now with FC5 (in the absence > > of glxgears which apparently I can't get on FC5) > > Except that you are wrong, and glxgears is part of FC5. iff its installed: I had to manually install (I guess this is based on installer choices and hence why some people dont have it installed ?). # rpm -qf /usr/bin/glxgears glx-utils-6.4.2-5 From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 28 11:29:35 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:29:35 +1100 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <16de708d0602271432w62c2c1f4re9e1356c17eb531f@mail.gmail.com> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> <4402D27E.5020008@herakles.homelinux.org> <16de708d0602271353k69c559e6qc5ef4c7d00ce0184@mail.gmail.com> <44037A87.3080305@herakles.homelinux.org> <16de708d0602271432w62c2c1f4re9e1356c17eb531f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4404341F.3070506@bigpond.net.au> Arthur Pemberton wrote: > I am currently downloading the DVD iso, then will download disk 1 and > attempt a network install of FC4.92 The dvd iso is bootable - you can boot and install directly from that. You do not need other media, well, unless you can't boot dvd - at which point you might better of with boot.iso or the rescue iso. DaveT. From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Tue Feb 28 14:02:41 2006 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:02:41 -0700 Subject: Social Engineering of Rawhide In-Reply-To: <1141099081.3139.70.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <1141099081.3139.70.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> Message-ID: <20060228140241.GA17953@charlescurley.com> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:58:01PM +1000, Peter Tiggerdine wrote: > > Testers & Developers, > I think somewhere along the way netizens appear to think that Rawhide is > stable ( or at least for public consumption). I'd think we need to discuss > how we can provide more constructive information for developers and send a > clear message to non-testers that Rawhide (a.k.a FC5 ) is not for general > use. A good point. How about renaming the repository? "Rawhide" does not convey anything about the stability or usefulness of the contents. Something like "Unstable" or "Testing" or "BleedingEdge" or "UseAtYourOwnRiskDammit" would at least convey something. -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tbrinkman at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 28 14:19:46 2006 From: tbrinkman at sbcglobal.net (Tom Brinkman) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:19:46 -0600 Subject: Burning ISOs In-Reply-To: <7ebb24d10602280544p7ef7e097p44cb9389fb6dc807@mail.gmail.com> References: <1140891678.4128.79.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> <4401DB66.1050500@yahoo.co.uk> <7ebb24d10602280544p7ef7e097p44cb9389fb6dc807@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200602280819.46199.tbrinkman@sbcglobal.net> On Tuesday 28 February 2006 07:44, Ben Steeves wrote: > On 2/26/06, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > > On 02/26/2006 04:08 PM, Ben Steeves wrote: > > >DVDs are sadly another matter, but even then my > > > failure rate has been about 5-8%, not too shabby really, and > > > that was on an older DVD burner. > > > > I've had mixed results with DVD burning due to questionable media > > quality. The moment I switched to Taiyo Yuden-based Verbatims I > > have 100% success rate! Make sure you buy good quality media > > (e.g. not all Verbatims are good either!) -- see "Blank Media & > > Quality FAQ" > > Ironically, with my older LG single-layer burner, I burned a lot > more DVD coasters with brand-name Memorex discs than I did with > no-name discs. On my new Samsung dual-layer burner, I haven't > burned any coasters* except when something external happened (like > droping the X server out from under the shell running the burn -- > accidentally of course :-). cdrecord dev=ATA:1,1,0 -atip .... with a blank in your burner will return who actually manufactured the media. "Brand" names don't make theirs, they just add their logo on the label side. This adds a little value to generic Cdr's as it improves reflectability slightly, an makes the discs much more durable. Generics are just as good as Brand names, if they're for temp storage, or won't be handled much. They are afterall, mostly the same manufacturers as the Brand names an much cheaper. Memorex are readily available here close to where I live. In the past most 100 spindles were Prodisc, a good vendor. Lately the last half dozen spindles have been an 'average' quality vendor, Disk type: Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 22 Manufacturer: Ritek Co. The Taiyo Yuden blanks that Dariusz mentioned are very good media, probly the best. I've also bought Brand name 100-spindles in the past that were comprised of blanks made by several different vendors. Some of them were Bahre, a non-orange forum Indian vendor... poor quality. I bought a 100 spindle of Imation recently, only to find they were this crap. > *with single-layer media, that is. I have yet to try dual-layer > media. > > PS: I use growisofs from the command line for all my DVD burning > needs, and cdrecord for CD burning (also from the shell). I don't > need no steenkin' GUI. :-) Same here. IMO, most peoples problems are because they depend on a GUI without really knowin what they, or the GUI is doin. As to the OP's subject, I burn iso's with 'biso Name_of_the.iso' (alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -dao'). The most important option being -dao. 16x is 1/3 speed for my Plextor an the media I use (52x). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 28 14:28:07 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:28:07 -0600 Subject: FC5T3 install issues (Video - winbind auth) In-Reply-To: <44035C44.5090602@feuerpokemon.de> References: <44034CA9.4030205@fedoraproject.org> <44035C44.5090602@feuerpokemon.de> Message-ID: <44045DF7.9020504@fedoraproject.org> Mike McGrath wrote: > >> During my FC5T2 install I had no issues with video, this time around the >> installer started with part of the top missing (lines going through). >> Also after changing my monitor in the install to 1920x1200 I could not >> select that mode without taking the color rate down to thousands. On a >> successful install the startx screen also has the right 1/4th of the >> screen covered with horizontal lines. >> >> >> > which video card and which driver is used? The card is: "ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]" Its in a Sony Vaio laptop. The driver is radeonfb. -Mike From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 14:43:45 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:43:45 -0500 Subject: Social Engineering of Rawhide In-Reply-To: <20060228140241.GA17953@charlescurley.com> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <1141099081.3139.70.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> <20060228140241.GA17953@charlescurley.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910602280643n651b652ai56bb907f3d6c7db4@mail.gmail.com> On 2/28/06, Charles Curley wrote: > A good point. How about renaming the repository? "Rawhide" does not > convey anything about the stability or usefulness of the > contents. Something like "Unstable" or "Testing" or "BleedingEdge" or > "UseAtYourOwnRiskDammit" would at least convey something. 1) rawhide is just a nickname at this point. the tree is named "development" in the mirrors and in the yum configuration files. 2) I very seriously doubt changing thre tree name will change the word-of-mouth behavior which drives people to imply that the test releases and the development tree updates are stable. 3)The necessary boiler plate to inform users of the development tree, exists in the fedora-devel.repo file as a lengthy comment, which no one will ever actually read. 4) The underlying problem is the average package quality in the development tree is too good leading up to a final release. This leads to inflated expectations from novice testers who walk into the ongoing testing process. They then write personal testimonials of the stability of the tree, based on their very narrow personal experience, which mislead other people into thinking the tree will be "stable" for other people regardless of details in terms of the configuration and hardware they tested, skewing the expectations of any potential tester. 5)The solution to the problem of inappropriately high-expectations on the development tree is obviously to delibrately poison the development tree on a more regular basis, instead of doing it just after a final release is out the door. The key to projecting an image of progress to the unwashed is low expectations.. not higher standards. The more broken the development tree feels on a daily basis, to a tester who isn't fully invested in the true nature of the development process and wants to continue to falsely believe that there is an attainable monotonicly increasing ideal of stability which can be applied to the development tree, the more astonishing a working final release will appear to them. I can scream that the development tree will eat your children and destroy not only your data but your neighbor's data until I'm blue in the face... but for people who don't want to hear the warning.. they will choose not to hear the warning... and the only way for them to learn is to actually have rawhide eat their data. So i say.. every week there should be a delibrate package update in the development tree which destroys data. Thrown into the package pool at random, with an appropriate changelog entry so those of us who read the daily rawhide reports will know exactly which package to exclude. -jef"tough love"spaleta /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-devel.repo # These packages are untested and still under development. This # repository is used for updates to test releases, and for # development of new releases. # # This repository can see significant daily turn over and can see major # functionality changes which cause unexpected problems with other # development packages. Please use these packages if you want to work # with the Fedora developers by testing these new development packages. # # fedora-test-list at redhat.com is available as a discussion forum for # testing and troubleshooting for development packages in conjunction # with new test releases. # # fedora-devel-list at redhat.com is available as a discussion forum for # testing and troubleshooting for development packages in conjunction # with developing new releases. # # Reportable issues should be filed at bugzilla.redhat.com # Product: Fedora Core # Version: devel From cmadams at hiwaay.net Tue Feb 28 14:52:06 2006 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:52:06 -0600 Subject: Social Engineering of Rawhide In-Reply-To: <20060228140241.GA17953@charlescurley.com> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <1141099081.3139.70.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> <20060228140241.GA17953@charlescurley.com> Message-ID: <20060228145206.GB1134192@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Charles Curley said: > A good point. How about renaming the repository? "Rawhide" does not > convey anything about the stability or usefulness of the > contents. Something like "Unstable" or "Testing" or "BleedingEdge" or > "UseAtYourOwnRiskDammit" would at least convey something. It has been "development" since Fedora Core started. "Rawhide" is the nickname based on the old Red Hat Linux dev tree; I think the only reference is in the core/development/README file (which apparently nobody reads). -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Feb 28 15:40:33 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:40:33 +0100 Subject: Social Engineering of Rawhide In-Reply-To: <20060228145206.GB1134192@hiwaay.net> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <1141099081.3139.70.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> <20060228140241.GA17953@charlescurley.com> <20060228145206.GB1134192@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <44046EF1.6060307@gmx.de> On 28.02.2006 15:52, Chris Adams wrote: >It has been "development" since Fedora Core started. "Rawhide" is the >nickname based on the old Red Hat Linux dev tree; I think the only >reference is in the core/development/README file (which apparently >nobody reads). > > nobody is reading the README because it is not displayed via HTTP http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ at least i can not see it. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/README no problem with ftp, but i doubt that the none readers use ftp :-( $ lftp ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ Verzeichniswechsel OK, cwd=/pub/fedora/linux/core/development lftp download.fedora.redhat.com:/pub/fedora/linux/core/development> ls -rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 3101 Nov 04 2003 README drwxrwsr-x 2 ftp ftp 184320 Feb 28 07:49 SRPMS drwxr-xr-x 9 ftp ftp 4096 Feb 28 07:49 i386 drwxrwsr-x 9 ftp ftp 4096 Feb 28 07:49 ia64 drwxrwsr-x 2 ftp ftp 4096 Feb 28 07:28 isos drwxrwsr-x 10 ftp ftp 4096 Feb 28 07:49 ppc drwxrwsr-x 8 ftp ftp 4096 Feb 28 07:49 ppc64 drwxrwsr-x 8 ftp ftp 4096 Feb 28 07:49 s390 drwxrwsr-x 8 ftp ftp 4096 Feb 28 07:49 s390x drwxrwsr-x 9 ftp ftp 4096 Feb 28 07:50 x86_64 and you can less it lftp download.fedora.redhat.com:/pub/fedora/linux/core/development> less README Rolling, Rolling, Rolling........ In an effort to improve communications with the development community, enable Linux users to test bleeding-edge technology, speed development, and improve the quality of future Fedora Core releases (as well as to end world hunger and eliminate human conflict), the Fedora Project will be releasing development versions of the Fedora Core Operating System on a regular basis. Dubbed "Raw Hide", the releases will have version numbers independent of Fedora Core's version. Raw Hide 1.0 will appear on download.fedora.redhat.com. How Raw Hide is a Team Effort The success of Linux and its rapid adoption by an increasing number of users for mission-critical applications has resulted in a growing number of developers. In addition to helping new users discover Linux, this development community continues to bring new features, tools, and utilities to Linux. As the Linux development community continues to push the rapid evolution of Linux, infrequently released Linux distributions have a difficult --Mehr-- From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Feb 28 16:19:20 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:19:20 +0100 Subject: OT: AntiSpam UOL Message-ID: <44047808.40107@gmx.de> oops, what happend with "AntiSpam UOL " 5 postings to this list without the annoying messages :-) the last i got was on Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:28:25 -0300 (BRT) From: AntiSpam UOL To: shrek-m Subject: RE: Re: Problem mounting network shares at boot i hope that this is now history for all members of this list. -- shrek-m From michal at harddata.com Tue Feb 28 16:33:16 2006 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:33:16 -0700 Subject: fc5t3 usb disk or disk-1? In-Reply-To: <20060228130723.45166.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4403E5F2.1030300@verizon.net> <20060228130723.45166.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060228163316.GB13600@mail.harddata.com> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 05:07:23AM -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > If you unmount again and remount the names > will change to /media/disk-2, /media/disk-3, > /media/disk-4/, ..., etc. This has been occurring in > FC5T2 also. If you are seeing that then there is a problem (unless you are mounting via 'gnome-mount' but unmounting by other means). 'gnome-mount' lacks smarts to reuse an existing mount point even if there is nothing currently mounted on it. Such mount point is supposed to disappear when you are doing "Unmount volume" from a corresponding menu. If that failed then you are filling up /media/ with all this "left behind" useless stuff like you describe above. If you are indeed seeing such failures, and not something else is at work in your case, then you should report that in bugzilla. Of course if you have a number of things mounted at the same, which would otherwise mount as /media/disk, then you will get /media/disk-1, /media/disk-2, ... quite legitimately with what is what beeing a lack of a draw. One of related troubles is that "leftovers" in /media/ are owned by root even if you got such failures from a non-root account. I fully expect to see machines with pretty strange looking /media/ when this will show up "in the field". Michal From pemboa at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 16:53:28 2006 From: pemboa at gmail.com (Arthur Pemberton) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:53:28 -0600 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <4404341F.3070506@bigpond.net.au> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> <4402D27E.5020008@herakles.homelinux.org> <16de708d0602271353k69c559e6qc5ef4c7d00ce0184@mail.gmail.com> <44037A87.3080305@herakles.homelinux.org> <16de708d0602271432w62c2c1f4re9e1356c17eb531f@mail.gmail.com> <4404341F.3070506@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <16de708d0602280853l6dd3344cyc7964846c94eb9d3@mail.gmail.com> On 2/28/06, David Timms wrote: > > Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > I am currently downloading the DVD iso, then will download disk 1 and > > attempt a network install of FC4.92 > The dvd iso is bootable - you can boot and install directly from that. > You do not need other media, well, unless you can't boot dvd - at which > point you might better of with boot.iso or the rescue iso. > > DaveT. > > Yah. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From notting at redhat.com Tue Feb 28 17:00:30 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:00:30 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060228 changes In-Reply-To: <1141145817.4433.34.camel@brilong-lnx> References: <200602280819.k1S8J6eT009069@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1141145817.4433.34.camel@brilong-lnx> Message-ID: <20060228170030.GI2021@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Brian Long (brilong at cisco.com) said: > > Removed package libibverbs > > > > Removed package opensm > > > > Removed package libsdp > > > > Removed package udapl > > > > Removed package libmthca > > OpenIB is removed from RawHide? At the request of the OpenIB maintainers, yes. They're intending to import it into Extras in the very near future. Bill From netwiz at crc.id.au Tue Feb 28 17:02:35 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 04:02:35 +1100 (EST) Subject: Inclusion of the adutux module? Message-ID: <1134.203.56.246.83.1141146155.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Hi, What are the requirements to try and get a module added to the Fedora kernel? I use a USB device to control relays and detect digital IO on various equipment and it would be great to see support for these in the kernel - so I don't have to hack away for hours to get it working. The driver is based on the lego driver - so I don't see any reasons why it wouldn't be allowed... Thoughts? -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From notting at redhat.com Tue Feb 28 17:04:29 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:04:29 -0500 Subject: Inclusion of the adutux module? In-Reply-To: <1134.203.56.246.83.1141146155.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <1134.203.56.246.83.1141146155.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <20060228170429.GJ2021@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Steven Haigh (netwiz at crc.id.au) said: > Hi, > > What are the requirements to try and get a module added to the Fedora kernel? > > I use a USB device to control relays and detect digital IO on various > equipment and it would be great to see support for these in the kernel - > so I don't have to hack away for hours to get it working. > > The driver is based on the lego driver - so I don't see any reasons why it > wouldn't be allowed... Getting it in the upstream kernel is generally the first step. Bill From arjan at fenrus.demon.nl Tue Feb 28 17:05:52 2006 From: arjan at fenrus.demon.nl (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:05:52 +0100 Subject: Inclusion of the adutux module? In-Reply-To: <1134.203.56.246.83.1141146155.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> References: <1134.203.56.246.83.1141146155.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> Message-ID: <1141146352.2935.54.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 04:02 +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > Hi, > > What are the requirements to try and get a module added to the Fedora kernel? > > I use a USB device to control relays and detect digital IO on various > equipment and it would be great to see support for these in the kernel - > so I don't have to hack away for hours to get it working. > > The driver is based on the lego driver - so I don't see any reasons why it > wouldn't be allowed... > > Thoughts? have you posted it to the linux-kernel mailinglist for review and inclusion? or even the linux-usb list ? From notting at redhat.com Tue Feb 28 17:12:08 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:12:08 -0500 Subject: rawhide report: 20060228 changes In-Reply-To: <1141146528.4433.38.camel@brilong-lnx> References: <200602280819.k1S8J6eT009069@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> <1141145817.4433.34.camel@brilong-lnx> <20060228170030.GI2021@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1141146528.4433.38.camel@brilong-lnx> Message-ID: <20060228171208.GK2021@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Brian Long (brilong at cisco.com) said: > Interesting. If it's not in Core, but Extras (and it's a Tech Preview > in RHEL 4 U3), how would it make it into RHEL 5? :-) Is the thought it > might move back to Core in Fedora Core 6 and then inherently make it > into RHEL 5? Core is not a prerequsite for RHEL. Bill From netwiz at crc.id.au Tue Feb 28 17:15:05 2006 From: netwiz at crc.id.au (Steven Haigh) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 04:15:05 +1100 (EST) Subject: Inclusion of the adutux module? In-Reply-To: <1141146352.2935.54.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> References: <1134.203.56.246.83.1141146155.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> <1141146352.2935.54.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: <1188.203.56.246.83.1141146905.squirrel@zeus.crc.id.au> On Wed, March 1, 2006 4:05 am, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 04:02 +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: >> Hi, >> >> What are the requirements to try and get a module added to the Fedora >> kernel? >> >> I use a USB device to control relays and detect digital IO on various >> equipment and it would be great to see support for these in the kernel - >> so I don't have to hack away for hours to get it working. >> >> The driver is based on the lego driver - so I don't see any reasons why >> it >> wouldn't be allowed... >> >> Thoughts? > > have you posted it to the linux-kernel mailinglist for review and > inclusion? or even the linux-usb list ? I can't say that I have. I've never done this kind of thing before. The adutux module was adapted from the Lego Tower module by John Homppi, and was submitted to the linux-usb maintainers for inclusion in the kernel. This was rejected because the generic USB-HID driver should work - however (the big however!), the usb-hid module expects all devices to have a bulk-out endpoint - which the ADU series do not have. This means that no amount of tweaking AT ALL will make this work with the USB-HID driver. The problem I have is that I'm certainly no coder - and I think John has given up trying to get it into the kernel. I would like to see this change however. -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz at crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897 Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA. From rmo at sunnmore.net Tue Feb 28 17:26:11 2006 From: rmo at sunnmore.net (Roy-Magne Mo) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:26:11 +0100 Subject: OT: AntiSpam UOL In-Reply-To: <44047808.40107@gmx.de> References: <44047808.40107@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1141147576.24999.2.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> ty den 28.02.2006 klokka 17:19 (+0100) skreiv shrek-m at gmx.de: > oops, > > what happend with "AntiSpam UOL " > 5 postings to this list without the annoying messages :-) > > the last i got was on > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:28:25 -0300 (BRT) > From: AntiSpam UOL > To: shrek-m > Subject: RE: Re: Problem mounting network shares at boot You only get it for the first one :( From dennis at ausil.us Tue Feb 28 17:46:06 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:46:06 -0600 Subject: OT: AntiSpam UOL In-Reply-To: <1141147576.24999.2.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> References: <44047808.40107@gmx.de> <1141147576.24999.2.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> Message-ID: <200602281146.06913.dennis@ausil.us> On Tuesday 28 February 2006 11:26, Roy-Magne Mo wrote: > ty den 28.02.2006 klokka 17:19 (+0100) skreiv shrek-m at gmx.de: > > oops, > > > > what happend with "AntiSpam UOL " > > 5 postings to this list without the annoying messages :-) > > > > the last i got was on > > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:28:25 -0300 (BRT) > > From: AntiSpam UOL > > To: shrek-m > > Subject: RE: Re: Problem mounting network shares at boot > > You only get it for the first one :( only if you click and validate there spam. I have gotten it on every post for quite some time. I refuse to say that it is an acceptable practice. I guess whoever it is doesn't get much List mail. -- Regards Dennis Gilmore, RHCE Proud Australian From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Feb 28 17:47:23 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:47:23 +0100 Subject: OT: AntiSpam UOL In-Reply-To: <1141147576.24999.2.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> References: <44047808.40107@gmx.de> <1141147576.24999.2.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> Message-ID: <44048CAB.4060502@gmx.de> On 28.02.2006 18:26, Roy-Magne Mo wrote: >You only get it for the first one :( > did you "click here" ? i did not and will not. $ grep "^From: AntiSpam UOL" 2006.sbd/fedora.sbd/spam | wc -l 59 -- shrek-m From jpearson42 at wowway.com Tue Feb 28 17:53:47 2006 From: jpearson42 at wowway.com (John Pearson) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:53:47 -0500 Subject: em28xx kernel module load fault Message-ID: <200602281253.47114.jpearson42@wowway.com> For the first time since installing FC5T3, I loaded TvTime, which reported no /dev/video and no signal. lsmod shows the the em28xx kernel module is not loaded. I did: [root at Gretchen jpearson]# /sbin/modprobe em28xx FATAL: Error inserting em28xx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1977_FC5/kernel/drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) with dmesg showing: [root at Gretchen jpearson]# dmesg ... ppdev3: claim the port first loop: loaded (max 8 devices) em28xx: Unknown parameter `index' [root at Gretchen jpearson]# uname -a Linux Gretchen.crooks1722.hab 2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 #1 Thu Feb 23 14:53:53 EST 2006 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [root at Gretchen jpearson]# /sbin/lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 741/741GX/M741 Host (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS AGP Port (virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge) 00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS963 [MuTIOL Media IO] (rev 25) 00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus Controller 00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] 00:02.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0) 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Sound Controller (rev a0) 00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f) 00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f) 00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller 00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 90) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) [root at Gretchen jpearson]# /sbin/lsusb Unknown line at line 5924 Unknown line at line 5925 Unknown line at line 5926 Unknown line at line 5927 Unknown line at line 5928 Unknown line at line 5929 Unknown line at line 5930 Unknown line at line 5931 Unknown line at line 5932 Unknown line at line 5933 Unknown line at line 5934 Unknown line at line 5935 Bus 001 Device 003: ID 050d:0375 Belkin Components Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 003 Device 004: ID 2040:4200 Hauppauge Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04a9:2208 Canon, Inc. CanoScan D660U Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 The device in question is Haupauge WinTV USB2. The device and setup are verified running using either FC4 or Ubuntu. Is there some other information that I need? My search of bugzilla and the last couple of months of the archives showed me nothing. Where and to whom do I need to file a report? -Jpearson From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 18:03:24 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:03:24 -0500 Subject: OT: AntiSpam UOL In-Reply-To: <44047808.40107@gmx.de> References: <44047808.40107@gmx.de> Message-ID: <604aa7910602281003m7793d191x9e33715f897a0a70@mail.gmail.com> On 2/28/06, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > i hope that this is now history for all members of this list. Don't worry, instead of the antispam validation messages we are going to get a series of posts from several long time members of all the lists affected asking what happened to the antispam message and asking other people to confirm. Then we are going to get a set of messages from other long time list members who consider the posts asking what happened to the antispam messages as spam and will write to ridicule the other members for writing about it and in fact adding spam to replace the original antispam spam Then we will get people posting who are going to write to ridicule the people who ridiculed the people who were asking what happened to the antispam spam, calling them hypocrites for spamming the lists complaining about people spamming the list with offtopic discussions about spam to the list. Then we will get people who will spam the list with comments about how unwelcoming the tone of discussion is and asking if we can just all get along and will hand out flowers to everyone. Then someone will grammar flame the person who was commenting on the tone of messages involved in the spamming messages about offtopic discussions about offtopic discussions about spamming about antispam spam. Then ..... Then someone will profit. -jef"following circular logic, gets me motion sick"spaleta From michael.favia at insitesinc.com Tue Feb 28 18:12:56 2006 From: michael.favia at insitesinc.com (Michael Favia) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:12:56 -0600 Subject: OT: AntiSpam UOL In-Reply-To: <604aa7910602281003m7793d191x9e33715f897a0a70@mail.gmail.com> References: <44047808.40107@gmx.de> <604aa7910602281003m7793d191x9e33715f897a0a70@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440492A8.7060707@insitesinc.com> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Then ..... We can rely on someone pointing out the inevitability and tiresome nature of it all in a slightly satirical yet sarcastic format. -mf From mharris at mharris.ca Tue Feb 28 18:22:26 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:22:26 -0500 Subject: FC5, glxgears is there In-Reply-To: <44043B0B.1080101@bigpond.net.au> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <44043B0B.1080101@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <440494E2.5010403@mharris.ca> David Timms wrote: > Mike A. Harris wrote: > >> Stanton Finley wrote: >> >>> It just worked great out of the box on FC4. Now with FC5 (in the absence >> >> > of glxgears which apparently I can't get on FC5) >> >> Except that you are wrong, and glxgears is part of FC5. > > iff its installed: I had to manually install (I guess this is based on > installer choices and hence why some people dont have it installed ?). > # rpm -qf /usr/bin/glxgears > glx-utils-6.4.2-5 If you think it should be installed by default, file a bug report against anaconda or comps. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Tue Feb 28 18:27:01 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:27:01 -0500 Subject: Social Engineering of Rawhide In-Reply-To: <20060228140241.GA17953@charlescurley.com> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <1141099081.3139.70.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> <20060228140241.GA17953@charlescurley.com> Message-ID: <440495F5.5030704@mharris.ca> Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:58:01PM +1000, Peter Tiggerdine wrote: > >> Testers & Developers, >> I think somewhere along the way netizens appear to think that Rawhide is >> stable ( or at least for public consumption). I'd think we need to discuss >> how we can provide more constructive information for developers and send a >> clear message to non-testers that Rawhide (a.k.a FC5 ) is not for general >> use. > > > > A good point. How about renaming the repository? "Rawhide" does not > convey anything about the stability or usefulness of the > contents. Something like "Unstable" or "Testing" or "BleedingEdge" or > "UseAtYourOwnRiskDammit" would at least convey something. Technically, it was renamed 2 years ago to "Fedora Development", however since the developmental repository for Red Hat Linux was named "rawhide" for 8-10 years or so, the name rawhide has stuck in the minds of many developers, and users. One observation I've made though that this is changing slowly, is that I haven't seen anyone file a bug report against rawhide in bugzilla for a long time. People are pretty much universally using "Fedora devel" or one of the test versions when they file. "Fedora development" conveys "use at own risk, this is unstable" quite adequately IMHO. At least as adequately as any other software project out there which has a public development version. During installation a brief dialog pops up on screen to inform you it is a test version, and not the full released OS. You have to click "Install anyway" or similar to proceed. How much more blatant does it need to be? -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From mharris at mharris.ca Tue Feb 28 18:29:54 2006 From: mharris at mharris.ca (Mike A. Harris) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:29:54 -0500 Subject: OT: AntiSpam UOL In-Reply-To: <1141147576.24999.2.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> References: <44047808.40107@gmx.de> <1141147576.24999.2.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> Message-ID: <440496A2.7080600@mharris.ca> Roy-Magne Mo wrote: > ty den 28.02.2006 klokka 17:19 (+0100) skreiv shrek-m at gmx.de: > >>oops, >> >>what happend with "AntiSpam UOL " >>5 postings to this list without the annoying messages :-) >> >>the last i got was on >> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:28:25 -0300 (BRT) >> From: AntiSpam UOL >> To: shrek-m >> Subject: RE: Re: Problem mounting network shares at boot > > > You only get it for the first one :( No, you get it every single time, assuming you refuse to click on the link and confirm to the idiots that their antispam system works. Everyone who clicks on the link, helps uol.com.br to keep their broken rediculous system functioning for the people who use it. Filter them with procmail to /dev/null or block them at the MTA level instead. -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Proud Canadian. From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 18:38:33 2006 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:38:33 -0500 Subject: Social Engineering of Rawhide In-Reply-To: <440495F5.5030704@mharris.ca> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <1141099081.3139.70.camel@zeus.astute-systems.com> <20060228140241.GA17953@charlescurley.com> <440495F5.5030704@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <604aa7910602281038v3212108enb0359bfc34da15b5@mail.gmail.com> On 2/28/06, Mike A. Harris wrote: > How much more blatant does it need to be? No official documentation uses the phrases "will eat your babies" So there's tons of headroom in the blatant metric left. -jef From felipe.alfaro at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 19:51:12 2006 From: felipe.alfaro at gmail.com (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:51:12 +0100 Subject: What is beagle supposed to find? In-Reply-To: <1141052303.2765.7.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> References: <1141052303.2765.7.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> Message-ID: <6f6293f10602281151o48fdee02m5e0c2e0e2f6fde20@mail.gmail.com> > The current Search app, beagle, seems to be useless. I agree with you. I have configured beagle to also include indexes from beagle-crawl-system and, although the command-line interface to Beagle works fine, the Search GUI application does not find anything. For example: $ beagle-query beagle file:///usr/share/applications/gnome-beagle-search.desktop file:///usr/share/applications/gnome-beagle-settings.desktop file:///usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html file:///usr/share/doc/fedora-release-4.92/RELEASE-NOTES-en.html file:///usr/share/doc/HTML/RELEASE-NOTES-en.html However, searching for "beagle" using the GUI only returns results for "Search" and "Search & Indexing" elements. Why? From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Tue Feb 28 20:27:58 2006 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:27:58 +0000 Subject: Printing problem Message-ID: <1141158479.2498.5.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Hi, I've done a simple Entity/Relationship Diagram in Dia and when I came to print it lines were missing. Initially, I thought this was a Dia problem (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332795) but I then thought to test it with FC4. Under FC4 however it prints correctly. So I've uploaded the PostScript of the diagram (which displays correctly) and wondered if anyone could try it to see if they could reproduce the problem and/or suggest what's at fault. It's at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/leon.stringer/fedora/output.ps The problem I see is that the main part of the lines connecting the MEMBER entity to the one above and below are missing (although the 'A' part of the "crows foot" shows). I'm printing to an HP DeskJet 990Cxi. Thanks in advance, Leon... From yinyang at eburg.com Tue Feb 28 20:26:00 2006 From: yinyang at eburg.com (Gordon Messmer) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:26:00 -0800 Subject: Mouse lockups in X.org w/ ATI In-Reply-To: <20060227173038.GC20969@localhost.localdomain> References: <44015DA8.5070706@eburg.com> <44023214.80309@eburg.com> <44023659.4060705@eburg.com> <20060227173038.GC20969@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4404B1D8.7090506@eburg.com> Monty wrote: > > My Logitech mouse does this. My HP mouse does not (pity; the Logitech > is a much better mouse otherwise). Yeah, I snagged a MS USB optical mouse and tested it. It seems fine, so the problem seems peculiar to Logitech mice. From yinyang at eburg.com Tue Feb 28 20:26:33 2006 From: yinyang at eburg.com (Gordon Messmer) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:26:33 -0800 Subject: Mouse lockups in X.org w/ ATI In-Reply-To: <1141086931.31212.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1141086931.31212.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4404B1F9.2060005@eburg.com> Todd Simi wrote: > I have a mouse problem, but I am using NVidia, and it happens with a > Microsoft USB Optical Mouse as well as a Microsoft PS/2 ball mouse. > > With mine, the mouse_over and mouse clicks stop working. > > I have found that sometimes ALT-TAB will reactivate it. That sounds entirely different from what I'm seeing. :) From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 28 20:42:39 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:42:39 +1100 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <1141145807.21520.148.camel@ender> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> <4402D27E.5020008@herakles.homelinux.org> <16de708d0602271353k69c559e6qc5ef4c7d00ce0184@mail.gmail.com> <44037A87.3080305@herakles.homelinux.org> <16de708d0602271432w62c2c1f4re9e1356c17eb531f@mail.gmail.com> <4404341F.3070506@bigpond.net.au> <16de708d0602280853l6dd3344cyc7964846c94eb9d3@mail.gmail.com> <1141145807.21520.148.camel@ender> Message-ID: <4404B5BF.8050804@bigpond.net.au> Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 10:53 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > Yes. Type 'linux askmethod' at the prompt. The fun of the rescue cd is > that it has stage 2 on it so you don't have to download that large part. Except that you already downloaded it in the size of the rescue CD ! You don't get nuthin' for nuthin'. DaveT. From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 28 20:45:55 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:45:55 +1100 Subject: FC5T3 install issues (Video - winbind auth) In-Reply-To: <44045DF7.9020504@fedoraproject.org> References: <44034CA9.4030205@fedoraproject.org> <44035C44.5090602@feuerpokemon.de> <44045DF7.9020504@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4404B683.3090502@bigpond.net.au> Mike McGrath wrote: > Mike McGrath wrote: > >>> During my FC5T2 install I had no issues with video, this time around the >>> installer started with part of the top missing (lines going through). >>> Also after changing my monitor in the install to 1920x1200 I could not >>> select that mode without taking the color rate down to thousands. On a >>> successful install the startx screen also has the right 1/4th of the >>> screen covered with horizontal lines. >>> >> which video card and which driver is used? > > The card is: "ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]" > Its in a Sony Vaio laptop. The driver is radeonfb. There is some Sony Vaio issues in bugzilla, see if you can find the same problem that you are having. (I don't have a Vaio myself). DaveT. From jkeating at j2solutions.net Tue Feb 28 20:46:03 2006 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:46:03 -0800 Subject: New tester In-Reply-To: <4404B5BF.8050804@bigpond.net.au> References: <16de708d0602270038h8c2dac6m72351df1908a7d50@mail.gmail.com> <4402D27E.5020008@herakles.homelinux.org> <16de708d0602271353k69c559e6qc5ef4c7d00ce0184@mail.gmail.com> <44037A87.3080305@herakles.homelinux.org> <16de708d0602271432w62c2c1f4re9e1356c17eb531f@mail.gmail.com> <4404341F.3070506@bigpond.net.au> <16de708d0602280853l6dd3344cyc7964846c94eb9d3@mail.gmail.com> <1141145807.21520.148.camel@ender> <4404B5BF.8050804@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <1141159564.12273.26.camel@ender> On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 07:42 +1100, David Timms wrote: > Except that you already downloaded it in the size of the rescue CD ! You > don't get nuthin' for nuthin'. Sure, but having it on the CD is one less thing to install each and every time. Plus if you're like me, you download and burn one place, possible to re-install in another place. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jmorris at beau.org Tue Feb 28 20:58:55 2006 From: jmorris at beau.org (John Morris) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:58:55 -0600 Subject: First time boot screen? In-Reply-To: <1141102726.2657.2.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> References: <1141102726.2657.2.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> Message-ID: <1141160335.3016.11.camel@mjolnir> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 22:58, Gerry Tool wrote: > Every time I reboot, the splash screen that covers up the details has a > moment when it displays "first boot startup" or something similar to > that. My understanding of "first boot" is that it happens once just > after install, not on every boot. If that is correct, then that segment > of the startup is mislabeled. Nope, that is supposed to work that way. When the firstboot service starts it looks to see if it is the first boot, if so it asks those initial questions otherwise it does nothing. I do wonder why it doesn't do a chkconfig firstboot off after it gets through running. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From dtimms at bigpond.net.au Tue Feb 28 21:05:40 2006 From: dtimms at bigpond.net.au (David Timms) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:05:40 +1100 Subject: FC5, progression or regression? In-Reply-To: <20060228040838.GE22600@redhat.com> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <20060228035954.GA11216@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060228040838.GE22600@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4404BB24.7020102@bigpond.net.au> Dave Jones wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 10:59:54PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Mike A. Harris (mharris at mharris.ca) said: > > > >a 3 GHz P4 processor for heaven's sake. It should run FC5 like the wind. > > > > > > That's why it is a test release, to find bugs. Don't use test releases > > > if you expect flawless OS operation and perfect performance. > > > > However, if it's *significantly* less performance, it could certainly > > signify something that's wrong. > > Current kernels still have slab debugging on (Because we still have > bugs that this is tripping up that need whacking). The increased > overhead of this sucks up memory bandwidth, and I wouldn't be > surprised if shared-memory video chipsets feel some pain. With glxgears, I see the gears update about 15 times in 10 seconds, and the results are (AMD athlon 2600+, 512ram, nvidia fx5600)# glxgears 888 frames in 5.4 seconds = 165.811 FPS 798 frames in 5.0 seconds = 158.416 FPS 912 frames in 5.7 seconds = 161.284 FPS 798 frames in 5.0 seconds = 158.274 FPS 798 frames in 5.1 seconds = 155.004 FPS It's hard to tell if this is just a stobing effect ;-) I think it was at least an order of magnitude higher in FC4 - from memory approximately 5000 f/s (but perhaps only with the nvidia (non-open) driver). Bill: this would seem to fit the *significantly* term: is this what others see ? Dave: card is a separate memory (128MB) card: it seems that this may be expected until the debugging is disable ? DaveT. From catfather at donpoo.net Tue Feb 28 21:16:45 2006 From: catfather at donpoo.net (Scott) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:16:45 -0500 Subject: Cinema Display 30 and Radeon 9600 Message-ID: <37607E81-B216-4CB0-92D9-6A9C93FA0D26@donpoo.net> Greets. First off, this is NOT on a Mac or PPC system. :) I seem to have run into a hardware issue while trying out FC5 test 3 i386. I have an ATI Radeon 9600 (RV350 AGP) connected to an Apple Cinema Display 30. This card is known to support the dual link dvi connection required to display 2560x1600 which is the native resolution of the ACD 30. During install I see no video after leaving text mode. I can switch back to vt2 and check the logs. The X server apparently launches just fine and the only EE logged is about dri not being able to load. I think that is expected given the chipset of the 9600. I've tried various video resolutions that I know to work, including 640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768. This system is a dual boot config with Windows XP SP2 also on the drive. The video card and monitor work as expected under XP, which is great to confirm that I have the monitor hooked to the right DVI port of the 9600 and that the monitor will work at full resolution. Any suggestions for getting video during install? For now I'm installing in text mode and plan to try and get video after the install is complete. -- Scott -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2369 bytes Desc: not available URL: From clumens at redhat.com Tue Feb 28 21:21:58 2006 From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:21:58 -0500 Subject: First time boot screen? In-Reply-To: <1141160335.3016.11.camel@mjolnir> References: <1141102726.2657.2.camel@fc5t3.thetoolshed.us> <1141160335.3016.11.camel@mjolnir> Message-ID: <20060228212158.GA28157@exeter.boston.redhat.com> > I do wonder why it doesn't do a chkconfig firstboot off after it gets > through running. Because I modified it to no longer do that. The problem here is that we have a variety of weird corner cases where firstboot is unable to run, but will try again a second time anyway. This comes up when X has problems and you change runlevels to fix it, for instance. In that case, the quick way to prevent firstboot from running again is to create a lock file and make it check to see if it's already "running". - Chris From notting at redhat.com Tue Feb 28 21:28:27 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:28:27 -0500 Subject: FC5, progression or regression? In-Reply-To: <4404BB24.7020102@bigpond.net.au> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <20060228035954.GA11216@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20060228040838.GE22600@redhat.com> <4404BB24.7020102@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <20060228212827.GC29291@devserv.devel.redhat.com> David Timms (dtimms at bigpond.net.au) said: > With glxgears, I see the gears update about 15 times in 10 seconds, and > the results are (AMD athlon 2600+, 512ram, nvidia fx5600)# glxgears > 888 frames in 5.4 seconds = 165.811 FPS > 798 frames in 5.0 seconds = 158.416 FPS > 912 frames in 5.7 seconds = 161.284 FPS > 798 frames in 5.0 seconds = 158.274 FPS > 798 frames in 5.1 seconds = 155.004 FPS > It's hard to tell if this is just a stobing effect ;-) > > I think it was at least an order of magnitude higher in FC4 - from > memory approximately 5000 f/s (but perhaps only with the nvidia > (non-open) driver). > > Bill: this would seem to fit the *significantly* term: is this what > others see ? Actually, this wouldn't - the default nv driver doesn't support 3D acceleration - the nvidia (non-open) driver does. So it's comparing apples to oranges. Bill From roger at gwch.net Tue Feb 28 21:33:24 2006 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:33:24 +0100 Subject: FC5T3 install issues (Video - winbind auth) In-Reply-To: <4404B683.3090502@bigpond.net.au> References: <44034CA9.4030205@fedoraproject.org> <44035C44.5090602@feuerpokemon.de> <44045DF7.9020504@fedoraproject.org> <4404B683.3090502@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <1141162404.2455.5.camel@niobe> Am Mittwoch, den 01.03.2006, 07:45 +1100 schrieb David Timms: > Mike McGrath wrote: > > Mike McGrath wrote: > > > >>> During my FC5T2 install I had no issues with video, this time around the > >>> installer started with part of the top missing (lines going through). > >>> Also after changing my monitor in the install to 1920x1200 I could not > >>> select that mode without taking the color rate down to thousands. On a > >>> successful install the startx screen also has the right 1/4th of the > >>> screen covered with horizontal lines. > >>> > >> which video card and which driver is used? > > > > The card is: "ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]" > > Its in a Sony Vaio laptop. The driver is radeonfb. > There is some Sony Vaio issues in bugzilla, see if you can find the same > problem that you are having. (I don't have a Vaio myself). > > DaveT. > i remember having this since FC4 with a S3 Twister Card. Since then, i used always text-install. Roger From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue Feb 28 21:57:54 2006 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:57:54 +0100 Subject: Printing problem In-Reply-To: <1141158479.2498.5.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> References: <1141158479.2498.5.camel@nww2.staffsamb.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <4404C762.3060700@gmx.de> On 28.02.2006 21:27, Leon Stringer wrote: >Under FC4 however it prints correctly. > > fc3 - mozilla / xpdf display = ok print, kyocera fs-1000+ (laser) via sercomm printserver = ok >So I've uploaded the PostScript of the diagram (which displays >correctly) and wondered if anyone could try it to see if they could >reproduce the problem and/or suggest what's at fault. > >It's at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/leon.stringer/fedora/output.ps > >The problem I see is that the main part of the lines connecting the >MEMBER entity to the one above and below are missing (although the 'A' >part of the "crows foot" shows). > >I'm printing to an HP DeskJet 990Cxi. > fc5test3+devel - firefox / xpdf display = ok print, kyocera fs-1000+ (laser) via sercomm printserver = ok -- shrek-m From mike at miketc.com Tue Feb 28 22:13:37 2006 From: mike at miketc.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:13:37 -0600 Subject: NFS install of FC5 T3 In-Reply-To: <44043857.2050607@bigpond.net.au> References: <1141040432.3806.13.camel@BillMurray> <1141043254.17946.8.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> <44043857.2050607@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <1141164817.1998.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 22:47 +1100, David Timms wrote: > For ftp install I copied each iso to the same folder, created subfolders > named > fc5/disc1 disc2 disc3 disc4 disc5, and then mount -o loop each one. > > In the ftp install you get asked the ftp server address, and the folder > containing the install. > In the folder path you put the path fc5 folder name. > The installer first guesses you have the whole (dvd) tree there, but > when it doesn't find the whole thing there it also tries the /disc1 etc > path, at the same folder level. > This can be seen be going to the ctrl-alt-F3 or F4 terminals, as it > tries it. With the nfs install, you just need to have the appropriate ISO's (1-5 in this case I think) in the same directory, with NO OTHER ISO's. As in iso 1 thru 5 in the same dir. And make sure it's setup to be nfs shared (via exports file and such). Just burn a copy of the image/boot.iso, or cd #1 or whatever, boot, at the prompt type 'linux askmethod' and away you go. There is no need to unpack the ISO's at all. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt, then it's hilarious!" From pato.lukaz at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 22:20:42 2006 From: pato.lukaz at gmail.com (Alberto Patino) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:20:42 -0600 Subject: bcm43xx driver on FC5T3 driver doesn't work and freeze my machine. In-Reply-To: <44041BAB.3010606@wudika.de> References: <4489a22a0602272328t7af1ffe1p90f040e2c686c657@mail.gmail.com> <44041BAB.3010606@wudika.de> Message-ID: <4489a22a0602281420t509d1ed4reb3f408387234d73@mail.gmail.com> > Alberto Patino wrote:! > > I have a laptop DELL Precision M60 with : > > I'd like to fix the problem, but I don't know what else to do! > > You are lucky, my Dell Precision M60 freezes as soon as the module is > loaded and so far I failed to get any valuable information in syslog. > However, bcm43xx isn't really considered stable, is it? Is not stable but we must to help to do this driver stable :) > You should probably report your problesm to the bcm43xx-developers > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev instead of > fedora-testing, because it seems to be unlikely that this issue is > fedora-specific. Yes you are right I'll submit this to the bcm43xx driver' guys. Alberto Pati?o From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Feb 28 23:06:31 2006 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:06:31 -0500 Subject: pirut traceback - test install of rawhide 2006-02-28 Message-ID: <20060228230631.GA25996@wolves.durham.nc.us> I was doing a test install of rawhide today (2006-02-28) and ran into a traceback/crash from pirut. BZ #183422 Pirut doesn't like clicks that select packages. :-( kyum is a workaround. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum! From lsatenstein at yahoo.com Tue Feb 28 23:29:34 2006 From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:29:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Kudzo segmentation Error In-Reply-To: <20060228113918.370E07317D@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060228232934.30860.qmail@web30209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was wondering if this is fixed for the go live version. It shows up when I boot, but I feel that the system has not suffered from its lack of presence. 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Thanks for any pointers. -- . __o Brian "la lumaca" _`\<,_ (*)/ (*) From notting at redhat.com Tue Feb 28 23:34:53 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:34:53 -0500 Subject: Kudzo segmentation Error In-Reply-To: <20060228232934.30860.qmail@web30209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060228113918.370E07317D@hormel.redhat.com> <20060228232934.30860.qmail@web30209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060228233453.GA16220@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Leslie Satenstein (lsatenstein at yahoo.com) said: > I was wondering if this is fixed for the go live version. It shows up when I boot, but I feel that the system has not suffered from its lack of presence. The error with respect to x86_64 and nVidia cards has been fixed. The xen kernel bug that causes it to die has not been fixed as of this moment. Bill From debian at herakles.homelinux.org Tue Feb 28 23:37:42 2006 From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:37:42 +0800 Subject: OT: AntiSpam UOL In-Reply-To: <440496A2.7080600@mharris.ca> References: <44047808.40107@gmx.de> <1141147576.24999.2.camel@host-81-191-138-133.bluecom.no> <440496A2.7080600@mharris.ca> Message-ID: <4404DEC6.5020901@herakles.homelinux.org> Mike A. Harris wrote: > > Everyone who clicks on the link, helps uol.com.br to keep their > broken rediculous system functioning for the people who use it. > Filter them with procmail to /dev/null or block them at the MTA > level instead. > > This works for me. I've not seen one for months. www:~# grep \.br /etc/postfix/header-checks /servadm.KAVOADM.kavo.com.br/ REJECT No thanks /^From:.*AntiSpam.*uol.com.br/ REJECT Fix your mail service www:~# From catfather at donpoo.net Tue Feb 28 23:39:21 2006 From: catfather at donpoo.net (Scott) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:39:21 -0500 Subject: Cinema Display 30 and Radeon 9600 In-Reply-To: <37607E81-B216-4CB0-92D9-6A9C93FA0D26@donpoo.net> References: <37607E81-B216-4CB0-92D9-6A9C93FA0D26@donpoo.net> Message-ID: On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:16 PM, Scott wrote: > First off, this is NOT on a Mac or PPC system. :) > > I seem to have run into a hardware issue while trying out FC5 test > 3 i386. I have an ATI Radeon 9600 (RV350 AGP) connected to an Apple > Cinema Display 30. This card is known to support the dual link dvi > connection required to display 2560x1600 which is the native > resolution of the ACD 30. Attached are my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files. Using these basic settings I get no video when running 'X' as root. (just for testing, things like gdm and startx do not work either, obviously). I see in the Gentoo wiki that someone has this display working under Linux using the binary nvidia driver however obviously I'm trying to use the xorg provided radeon driver for my Radeon 9600 adapter. Wild ass guess, does the radeon driver properly setup dual link dvi mode which is required by this display? For reference here's the Gentoo wiki page: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Apple_30% 22_Cinema_Display#xorg.conf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Xorg.0.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 37265 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Jim Cornette wrote: > I seem to remember someone posting to the list regarding problems with > installing from a USB interfaced DVD reader/writer. I could not find the > previous post. I did however find the problem when attempting to install > FC5T3 on two different SBC systems using a Memorex DVD reader/writer. > I am able to install the FC5T2 installation from DVD. I checked the > burned DVD using the USB DVD recorder/player and it passed the media test. > The FC5T5 install fails in both GUI and text modes. FC5T2 installs fine > on the same computers and with the same DVD device and brand of blank > DVD's used for the burn. > I filed a bug report but I thought I'd ask if others are having similar > failures and what boot options could be issued to bypass the recently > introduced error, if any workarounds available. > > Jim > -- Well fix that in the next (upgrade, update, patch release, service pack). From pb at partha.com Tue Feb 28 23:47:20 2006 From: pb at partha.com (Partha Bagchi) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:47:20 -0500 Subject: FC5, progression or regression? In-Reply-To: <4403D1AA.1090503@insight.rr.com> References: <1141088499.3032.15.camel@c-67-164-203-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> <4403B39C.4070901@mharris.ca> <4403D1AA.1090503@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <4404E108.6080407@partha.com> Jim Cornette wrote: > Mike A. Harris wrote: >> Stanton Finley wrote: >>> My Intel onboard 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics >>> Controller used to run glxgears at blinding speeds with FC4 and I >>> didn't >>> even have to install a driver for it on my eMachines T5026. >> >> The driver comes with FC5 of course. Not sure why you think you need >> to install a driver elsewhere. >> >>> It just worked great out of the box on FC4. Now with FC5 (in the >>> absence >> > of glxgears which apparently I can't get on FC5) >> >> Except that you are wrong, and glxgears is part of FC5. > > glx-utils by chance? I thought that the program was gone altogether > myself. > > yum install glx-utils > > glxgears and glxinfo are now both present. > > Jim > > except .... glxgears X Error of failed request: GLXBadContext Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent) Serial number of failed request: 22 Current serial number in output stream: 22 uname -a : 2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 #1 SMP Thu Feb 23 14:55:24 EST 2006 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Video: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) (not shared memory)