todays rawhide - feedback

[dragoran]

Antonio Olivares wrote:

>--- Rodd Clarkson <rodd at clarkson.id.au> wrote:
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>>On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 08:33 -0500, Jim Cornette
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>>>Rahul Sundaram wrote:
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>>>>Jim Cornette wrote:
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>>>>>dragoran wrote:
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>>>>>>I installed todays rawhide tree and found this
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>>issues: 1) why is
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>>>>>>there no shutdown/reboot in the gnome menus ?
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>>this is a desktop
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>>>>>>system and I do not want to suspend it.
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>>>>>It is an assumption upstream that reflects if
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>>your computer is capable 
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>>>>>of suspending, you do not need a shutdown
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>>choices. A lot of comments 
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>>>>>previously in gnome-power-manager thread.
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>>>>Incorrect. It is a Fedora specific change.
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>>>Thanks! I thought that upstream GNOME decided on
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>>this approach. Either 
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>>>way, limiting the ability to reboot/shutdown is
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>>not practical for many 
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>>>reasons.
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>>Yeah, for example on a system that doesn't suspend
>>properly, but all
>>you're offered is the opportunity to suspend.
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>>Once FC5t3 is out I'm going to do some serious
>>looking into why my very
>>recent Dell Inspiron 9300 doesn't suspend (or
>>hibernate), but even so, I
>>still need some way of shutting down the system, and
>>getting it to start
>>again (without having to reboot using the on/off key
>>after suspending) 
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>Become super user 
>$ su -
>psswd: ******
># shutdown -h now
>and/or
># poweroff
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I know that there are other ways to shutdown / reboot the system.
But I don't see any reason to remove it from the menu, even upstream 
does not do it. Don't tell me that having a shutdown/reboot button will 
confuse users, its the opposite.
Maybe we even will get bugreports like this :"updated to fc5 and 
shutdown button dissapperd" or something like that