New schedule for FC5 Test2 ISO roll-out?

Rahul Sundaram sundaram at redhat.com
Wed Jan 11 16:06:07 UTC 2006


D Canfield wrote:

> Michael A. Peters wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 09:14 -0500, D Canfield wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Maybe I'll be laughed off the list, but I do think it would be great 
>>> if a *goal* (not a requirement) of at least test3 of a given release 
>>> would be to upgrade to final.
>>>     
>>
>>
>> Impossible because some applications may need to be downgraded for final
>> - which can not really be done easily with yum (not w/o using epoch's -
>> but that would be a silly reason to use an epoch)
>>   
>
> Has it been consistently true that packages are commonly downgraded 
> between test3 and final?  I thought t3 was intended to be more "final" 
> than that.  Again, I said *goal*, not *requirement*.

Not consistently true. It should be avoided but it does happen on occasions

>
>>  
>
> That's the claim now.  But my point is that at least in my personal 
> experience, I'm more likely to test something (and find useful 
> feedback/bugs) if it's something I can use on one of my primary 
> machines.  If I'm sure I'm going to have to reinstall the things 4 
> times (t1, t2, t3, final), I'm not likely to bother testing it beyond 
> maybe running through the installer in vmware and looking to see 
> what's new.  Maybe the preference is not to have "casual" testers, but 
> I think that's the only way to get diverse testing on real hardware.

One can of course upgrade between test releases but packages might be 
pulled in between releases and other major updates might be disruptive. 
So it would have been managed by the tester.

>
> Doesn't the upgrade functionality need tested too?  And don't we need 
> to know if there are issues caused by upgrades?   It would be 
> important to know that someone had upgraded when tracking bugs, but 
> again this seems like a good way to eliminate bugs early that will 
> catch especially the lower-end users.
>
> Just a thought.  If it's totally stupid, it of course won't happen. :-) 

We dont need to bother about upgrade functionality working between test 
releases. Only from one GA release to another.

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Rahul 

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