FC5T2 ready for even a test release?

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi

> Why do you think it keeps coming up?

You are the first for this release.

>>
>> Everything installations are generally a bad idea.
>>
> Generally but not always!
> In my case, one of the things I'm doing is looking for things that 
> don't  have SELinux policy that need it.

What do you mean by that?

>
>>
>> * Redundancy - While Fedora Core itself is slowing moving towards 
>> providing more packages as part of the Fedora Extras and possibly 
>> doing several different targets the current selection uses multiple 
>> programs that provide the same functionality, browsers or desktop 
>> environments for example and its better for users to use a graphical 
>> tool like pirut and install packages as necessary.
>
> For those of us that run 'rawhide' redundancy is good and it saves 
> time to have "more than one way to skin a cat" already installed.
> Don't you want "everything" tested?

Use yum to install the rest.

>>
>> * Security, manageability  and performance -  As more and more 
>> packages are installed on a system the amount of  updates and 
>> interactions between the packages that the user has to handle 
>> drastically increases. For users who are using Fedora as  a 
>> development system or using it just to learn Linux where the system 
>> serves no other purpose and a high amount of bandwidth is available 
>> this might make sense 
>
> You just gave another reason to have a 'everything' option. Plus don't 
> you want to make it easier for people to test everything? I'll bet 
> there are things in FC that no one uses and never gets tested.

Use yum.

> BTW, what are you doing to get the number of CDs back down to 4?

Not a agreed upon goal AFAIK.

>
> but for others
>
>> users who use it deploy it at various levels the amount of updates 
>> and potential security issues that they have to deal with packages 
>> that they might not even use is a additional burden. Moreover the 
>> additional packages installed might need listen to network 
>> connections by default making the systems potentially more vulnerable 
>> by increasing the attack vector. Additional services enabled by 
>> default also affect performance.
>
> That has nothing to do with whether or not there is a 'everything' 
> option.

It does. Everything opens up more services.

-- 
Rahul 

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