FC5T2 ready for even a test release?

[Richard Hally]

Hi all,

Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On 1/22/06, goemon at anime.net <goemon at anime.net> wrote:
>> so far it seems like almost everyone wants it back and you're the only one
>> arguing for its removal. perhaps this should tell you something
> 
> Yeah everyone else in this discussion is insane.
> 
> I'm arguing for removal. In fact I'm arguing for removal of all
> package choice in the interactive Core installer so that an
> installation of core only gives you a default set of packages and
> everything else happens post install or via kickstart.
Or "everything else" is extras or somewhere else.
Consider the proposition that "If it's good enough to be included in 
Core it good enough to be installed on my system"
> 
> You do realize that anaconda is gaining the ability to see other repos
> beside Core in future fedora releases right?  The "install everything"
> button in the UI surely will not map to what everyone would find
> useful when the installer can see both Core and Extras by default.

I sure hope that I have the choice in the installer to *not* use extras.

> Moving forward that little extra button is to incur more complexity to
> make any sense at all. Will everything mean just Core.. will it mean
> just Core+Extras.. will it mean Core+Extras+plus other repos you have
> enabled at install time?

That should depend on which repos you have chosen to enable.

   Are the developers going to have to build
> more UI around that one little button to give you a choice between
> those options.  Complexity abounds without accomplishing much in the
> way of addressing a  usage case that is not reasonably covered by
> post-install mechanisms.

Are you forgetting the "non-internet access" use case? Or what about the 
person that only has a very slow connection(e.g. dial-up) and installs 
his system from the CDs he borrowed from his buddy and returns them 
after the install?

> 
> If there were community provided kickstart images that did a Core
> everything install wouldn't that be sufficient solution.. instead of
> clicking you way through the graphical installer?

Does kickstart install from CDs?

BTW, there is a bugzilla for kickstart not working with an everything 
selection.

> 
> -jef"what is popular is not always right, and what is right is not
> always popular"spaleta
> 
And what makes Rahul think he knows the difference better than others? 
(wink,wink)

Richard