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Re: kernel 2.6.16-1.2107_FC5 breaks graphical boot (and cups and httpd)

On May 5, 2006, at 4:28 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 09:06 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
I'm sure Red Hat has some system for their own testing of RHEL, maybe
for such security fixes it can be used for Fedora?

That is one of the things the new Fedora QA lead has to figure out.

Hey, that's me!

As Arjan says, Red Hat indeed has systems/procedures (automated and otherwise) for testing packages before they go into RHEL. I'm hoping that I can bring some of these things to Fedora to keep this sort of thing from happening. But it takes a while to build this kind of infrastructure. We'll start small.

The classic solution would be a small farm of automated test machines, but I imagine that's a bit too resource intensive for the project right now.

Actually, no! It's not a gigantic test lab, but we have some hardware dedicated soley to Fedora QA and we're working on timesharing agreements so we might be able to use the RHEL test systems when they're not busy. This should allow us to do automated testing on releases / packages before they go fully public.

How about a core team of volunteers that yum updates off a private repo
several hours before it goes public?

Volunteers? YES! Oh please yes! But not just for security updates (although we will definitely work on that).

As for the simple case - testing packages before they go public - Isn't that what updates-testing is for? The brave (and/or foolhardy) can enable that repo and give us some advance warning if a package has gone bad.

There is a push towards that. Not sure whether automated testing would
have detected this particular problem though.

Depends on what the automated tests do, really - on my machine, any test that used TCP connections would have fail. We definitely have automated tests here that do that sort of thing - the question is whether the RHEL team is allowed to give us their tests. We'll see what happens. We can always write our own tests if the freely- available ones don't do enough.


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