KDE 4 live image for i686

[Kevin Kofler]

Andrew Parker <andrewparker <at> bigfoot.com> writes:
> Tried this on a three hosts, and i have problems galore.

Some of these problems are due to KDE 4, some are due to the major upgrade of 
X.Org X11. (When I say "X11 bug", it may also be a bug in the driver, or most 
likely a problem with the port of the driver to the new version of the X.Org 
X11 server.) And finally, some are issues in other components (GTK+ 2, 
livecd-tools).

> Homebrew host 1:
>   Adding news ticker to the taskbar then klicking on the pager
> resulted in the news ticker story being displayed

KDE 4 bug (either in Plasma itself or in its news ticker applet).

>   The Lock/Logout applet corrupts the display, although the "The
> session was locked" dialog is OK, and the desktop is restored
> correctly.

Maybe a KDE 4 bug, maybe an X11 bug.

> Homebrew host 2:
>   Second monitor of a dual display has a corrupted text display during
> both RHGB and KDE session

X11 bug.

>   On login, I get a window with "The audio playback device ALi M5455
> with ALC850 (ALi M5455) does not work.  Failing back to Esound (ESD)."

This is a problem with our default settings for Phonon in kde-settings. We 
really need to set up things so everything works with PulseAudio out of the 
box, like we did for KDE 3 in Fedora 8. But at least Phonon is smart enough to 
fall back to something working automatically. :-)

> On a Dell Inspiron 1420 (Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile
> GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)):
>   RHGB display is corrupted, although the KDE desktop is OK

Probably also an X11 bug.

>   Konqueror can't display any web pages (either by hostname or IP
> address) with the somewhat unhelpful "An error occurred while loading
> http://".  telnet confirms its not a network issue.  The News Ticker
> applet doesn't display any results either, so it looks like a KDE HTTP
> problem?

Yes, I think so too, looks like a KDE 4 KIO bug.

>   Using the slideshow for desktop backgrounds occasionally results in
> parts of the background being corrupted, most often the top 50 or so
> lines.

This may be a KDE 4 bug or an X11 bug. I'm inclined to blame X11 (or its 
drivers) there, but I may be wrong.

> Common problems:
>   nm-applet crashes when clicking on any entry in the menu (X Window
> System error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes))

As Rex Dieter said, this is a GTK+ issue, we hope there will be a solution for 
this soon. (There is also some work being done upstream on getting 
KNetworkManager to finally work with NetworkManager 0.7, so hopefully nm-applet 
will not be necessary for KDE users in the Fedora 9 release at all, we'll have 
at least a kdelibs3-based solution if not a KDE 4 one. But we still want to get 
the GTK+ applet issue fixed either way!)

>   Adding applets to the RHS of the taskbar where the system tray is
> resizes the taskbar (down from 100%) and leaves a white block to the
> left of the taskbar.

KDE 4 bug (more precisely, a Plasma bug).

>   The license type drop down in Konqueror start up page only displays
> each option when the mouse is down over that option or is already
> selected (i.e. you can't see unselected options without clicking on
> them)

KDE 4 bug (in Konqueror or one of the libraries it uses).

>   The Lock/Logout applet only lets me lock the desktop.

Are you starting KDE from KDM? GDM? Something else? It sounds like a KDE 4 bug 
in any case.

>   When logging into KDE, the usual "Starting desktop" etc messages on
> the splash screen are not present

KDE 4 bug (in KSplash).

>   One of the "Useful Tips" in KTip states that pressing the middle
> mouse button on the desktop will give a list of all windows on each
> desktop, but it doesn't work.  Some other tips don't work, so maybe
> KTip is not KDE4?

KTip has suffered from bitrotting, upstream tried removing tips which are 
irrelevant in KDE 4 (they aren't writing new ones due to the string freeze), 
but maybe this one was missed.

>   Typing "konsole" in the Search part of the K Menu tries to run
> konsolekalendar rather than konsole.  It looks like I have to type
> "terminal".  i.e. knowing how to launch it from the command line won't
> help me here.

Well, "konsole" is supposed to find Konsole too, the reason it 
finds "konsolekalendar" first is probably that it tries matching GenericName 
first for the apps which have one. I think there's a way to get the full list 
(at least the screenshots have shown such lists), not run the first match 
directly, Konsole should be in that list.

For those who hate Kickoff, the 4.0 release (and the next snapshot, if there 
will be any before the release) will have a simple menu like in KDE 3 as an 
option in any case. (Wacky idea: Maybe the simple menu should be the default? 
We'll have to discuss the defaults for kde-settings in our meetings. I'll bring 
the menu issue up.)

>   The CD's "Boot from local drive" option reboots (after a prompt)
> then boots from the CD again.

That's a problem with the Fedora live CD software itself (either livecd-tools 
or one of the tools it uses, like isolinux).

Unfortunately, none of these remarks are actual solutions for the problems 
you're encountering, however identifying the component to blame is usually the 
first step to getting issues fixed. ;-)

        Kevin Kofler