F9-Beta install from local harddisk - broken?
David Boles
dgboles at gmail.com
Fri Apr 4 18:50:13 UTC 2008
Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 14:01 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> To be fair, I'd like to point out that F9-Beta is not ready for testing yet,
>> and therefore I won't spend/waste time trying it out, and not the weekly
>> snapshots either. Not only did I need several attempts to install it (e.g.
>> Anaconda crashes in GRUB device dialog), it still feels like a snail at
>> run-time compared with F8. This is a no-go. And while I would wrestle with
>> F9-Beta or Rawhide, the endless flood of F8 Updates would break F8 even further.
>
> And yet we've had very successful results out of our Beta testers,
> finding and helping us fix bugs, verifying previous things broken were
> actually fixed, testing out new features and filing bugs etc, etc...
>
> If your idea is that software has to be done before you can test it, I
> don't see how you can ever test it.
>
> As for slow, we have all sorts of debugging turned on all over the place
> so that when things to crash we have enough breadcrumbs to figure out
> what went wrong and fix it. Those will be removed over the next week or
> so, which will make it harder to get anything useful out of any bugs you
> find afterward.
>
> And we're sorry you had a grub bug, which may be a real bug, but it's by
> far not the common case and thus it didn't get any testing until you
> tried it. It likely would still be broken in the final release if you
> didn't try it (not that I'm claiming it will be fixed, this may be one
> of those "don't do that" issues, but at least we'll know about it and
> can document it due to your testing).
Well said Jesse.
--
David
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