X11 failure ?

Wed Apr 9 01:51:19 UTC 2008

--- Andrew Farris <lordmorgul at gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you Andrew.  I will try to gather the info
you suggested. To add a few comments:

( I think the problem started with a received update,
so perhaps there
will be more inputs that has to do with the server )

You asked:
> Did that work before this crashing (4) started
> happening? 

No, Miro, Totem, and everything with video, has never
worked,
but they didn't freeze up the computer. 

>
>  Does it work before you run a video app and crash
X?
>

Yes. 

I tried several things as mentioned in
"Bugzilla Bug 439858: swf mozilla plugin - no youtube"

- but nothing worked. 

( well, a lot is over my head. A script that would
gather installed
packages, sort of tag & explain some notes of packages
that break the
policy of patent-free stuff, would be nice to have. As
well as non-fedora
stuff. Sometimes I have wished to clean up such stuff.
Always a problem when
you include some packages that isn't from Fedora, and
could possible cause some
problems. A fresh install isn't always something you
like to do with a system
in which you have collected work - just an idea that
sprang to mind )

Your later comment about changing runlevel was a good
idea, I'll try that.

( the pain with it all, is all the time things take ;)

//ARNE

> Arne Chr. Jorgensen wrote:
> > hi,
> > 
> >  
> > Found this list in the wiki.x.org page. 
> > 
> > Running Fedora8 x86_64 on a  HP c6715b,with
> "xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.7.195-3.fc8.x86_64.rpm". 
> > 
> > 
> > 1. until a couple of days back, I could watch
> YouTube and such in Firefox.
> > ( not sure what messed things up )
> > - tried Opera and Konqueror, but they don't work
> either, so it should not be 
> > Firefox alone.
> 
> In sorting out an issue like that you need to find
> out what changed.  Refer to 
> /var/log/yum.log for your package changes (at least
> anything yum changed) since 
> you noticed this; the file has dated entries so get
> the whole list up as far as 
> it has been happening.  If you also updated anything
> manually with rpm that 
> won't show up in yum.log.
> 
> > 2. My hardware is "ATI Radeon Xpress ?1250? for
> HP_TT" ( pasted from xorg.0.log )
> > - think it may use a 1200 driver, as that is what
> I believed was used with the
> > "xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.7.195-3.fc8.x86_64.rpm". (
> This may have been updated, as
> > when I did: rpm -q
> xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.7.195-3.fc8.x86_64.rpm, it said
> that it wasn't
> > installed ??! )
> 
> rpm -q package (where package does not have .rpm),
> you can add .arch but you 
> don't need to unless you want to check when you have
> i386 and x86_64 of the same 
> package name.
> 
> rpm -q xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.7.195-3.fc8.x86_64
> 
> > - xorg.0.log says: xorg-x11-server 1.3.0.0-44.fc8,
> which probes a lot of stuff.  
> > 
> > 3. Have asked a few questions regarding
> applications like Miro,Totemplayer, and so
> > on did run under Fedora 8, but nobody did answer
> this question. Perhaps they didn't understand it, as
> my impression is that others have these programs
> running.
> > The programs  refuse to show anything in the movie
> window. ( could be missing some plug-ins, and other
> settings, but think there may be more to it )
> 
> Probably missing support libraries/codecs you need
> from livna.org or freshrpms.net.
> 
> > 4. At the moment, any application like in (3)
> crash the screen. It may go blank, may set up a
> uniform color, or a lot of vertical stripes. No keys
> will work, and the
> > only option is to use power-off and restart the
> computer.
> 
> Thats a serious problem and should get reported, but
> you need to find out what 
> changed on your system when this started happening. 
> You may also be able to 
> revert to prior versions and see if this goes away.
> 
> In any case you're going to need /etc/xorg.conf,
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and the 
> output of dmesg just before you cause the crash. 
> Attach that to your bug report.
> 
> > 5. Ctrl-Alt-F# should give me a new text screen,
> and Ctrl-Alt-F7 should give me
> > back the graphical window. But this has never
> worked. 
> > - Ctrl-Alt-F1 for example, give a blank screen, or
> empty page. ( in fact, it seem
> > like it may probe resolution or something, but
> doesn't drop into text mode )
> 
> Did that work before this crashing (4) started
> happening?  Could be because the 
> video driver is already having issues from the
> crash.  Does it work before you 
> run a video app and crash X?
> 
> > Should this be filed as a bug against the X-server
> ?  As I am unsure how sort out
> > the many issues, so I write this. 
> 
> Yes, against xorg-drv-ati first I would guess.
> 
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