Upgrading to 10alpha

[John Summerfield]

Todd Denniston wrote:
> John Summerfield wrote, On 08/07/2008 02:22 AM:
>> Chuck Anderson wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:13:40AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
>>>> Jerry Amundson wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:38 PM, John Summerfield
>>>>> <debian at herakles.homelinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>> What it wants is to download 1.7 Gbytes of stuff. I don't have 
>>>>>> that much
>>>>>> free space[1], but mounting a USB drive is possible.
>>>>> You've left out quite a few details if a 1.7 GB problem requires a 320
>>>>> GB solution.
>>>>>
>>>> See below, I need to buy a new drive and clone and retire the 
>>>> existing  drive. There's no space for a new drive.
>>>
>>> Well, another solution is "delete 1.7 GB of data".  You could for 
>>> example remove -devel packages (and definately debuginfo if you have 
>>> any):
>>>
>>> yum remove \*-devel \*-debuginfo
>> And if my -devel packages are essential?
>>>
>>> and if that doesn't give enough space, consider temporarily removing 
>>> some applications to free up enough space to do the update, then put 
>>> them back after, e.g.:
>>>
>>> yum groupremove 'Office/Productivity'
>>>
>>> Check for huge logfiles in /var/log and delete or compress old ones, 
>>> etc.
>>>
>>
>> My space vanishes in chunks of several gigabytes; it's chock fill of 
>> (not very functional) virtual computers.
>>
>> I'm well-practiced at recovering space; if I need to resort to those 
>> measures, a new disk drive is cheaper.
>>
>> The first step in recovering wasted space is to find where it's used. 
>> Deleting installed software isn't going to recover anything like 1.7 
>> Gbytes (it's about all of the installed software).
>>
> 
> After reading all of the above, I have three possible suggestions:
> 1) you can
> mkdir myempty;cd myempty
> yum update oof*
> yum clean all
> yum update kde*
> yum clean all
> yum update gn*
> yum clean all
> yum update
> i.e., update the large chunks and then there will be less to update in 
> one chunk.
> 
> 2)  get a large (bigger than 2GB) USB mass storage device and
> mount /dev/myExt[23]FormattedUsbDrive /var/cache/yum
> yum update

Recall that my original question was "Where do I mount another disk?" 
and it was answered by Jerry. I have several options for _external_ 
storage, both USB storage up to 500 Mbytes, and network-accessible 
shared storage..

> 
> 3) get a really large (bigger than 20 GB) USB mass storage device and
> get a mirror of the development repository on it,

I'm hoping to avoid downloading the entire repo. I've not looked, but I 
assume it's 3 Gbytes or more.

> modify /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo to point to
> baseurl=file:///where/my/big/repo/is/at
> and comment (put a # at the begging of the line) the mirrorlist=.
> [yum is apparently smart enough to know that if the files are on a file 
> system it can access, it does not need to copy them before using rpm on 
> them.]
> yum update
> 
I appeciate that people have offered alternative solutions to my 
problem. It's often the right thing to do, and I do it myself, but this 
time the second best solution is the one I had in mind at the beginning.

The best solution is a new, larger drive but I don't have one to hand 
and I'm not going to rush out and buy one until I establish F10 will 
actually be useful to me.



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Cheers
John

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