Joshua C. wrote: > logout/turn off don't work after I updated to kdelibs-4.1.3-4.fc9.i386 > and kdelibs-common-4.1.3-4.fc9.i386 Is that the *only* thing you installed/updated? Are you using gdm, and did you happen to update dbus/gdm too? If so, possibly: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475444 -- Rex