updates repo admission checklist hole

Mon Aug 3 12:38:08 UTC 2009

Hi ,

Thank you for your comments . I am so sorry to have a complete different view and opinion. 

Have a nice day.
Thanks. Andrei.

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	* From: Michael Schwendt <mschwendt tmp0701 nospam arcor de>
	* To: fedora-test-list redhat com
	* Subject: Re: updates repo admission checklist hole
	* Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:54:14 +0200
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On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 15:19:20 -0700 (PDT), Suhan wrote:

>> It lloks that the hole is still open as now swig package update brokes the update.
>> 

>> I think there is a hole in QA process that allows untested packages to get into the update repo. 
>>

>It's a pitty you don't understand any of this, and that instead of asking
>further questions you post crap in bugzilla.

>> PS:  I find here a policy described: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageSubmissionQAPolicy
>> but there is no detailed QA Check list , can someone help me with some pointers to follow for more details?
>>

> That document is several years old. Its title is "Old Package Submission
> and QA Policies used at fedora.us". Its header says "This is a copy of
> the old document from fedora.us."

> It doesn't apply to fedoraproject.org.

> As what it still does in the Wiki, I don't know. I don't know either
> who takes care of the Wiki, which has become worse since we originally
> started with using one.

> How did you find that page in the Wiki? By searching or by following
> links in the Packaging Guidelines?

> [...]

I was searching for some more info but it seems I outdated info that confused me. 

> Back to the swig update. There is no QA process, at least not for the
> majority of packages. Here's the update ticket for swig:

>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-8145

> As you can see, it got pushed directly to "stable", which didn't give
> anybody a chance to test it before it landed in the repos. Only if it had
> been pushed to testing, there would have been a window during which the
> community could have tested it and could have used the "karma points"
> voting system in bodhi, the Fedora Updates System.

> And even if it didn't have broken deps, it could still suffer from further
> breakage, which could only be found out with actual testing (done by
> humans as well as automated tests).

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From: Suhan Andrei <sandi_ro at yahoo.com>
To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 1:19:20 AM
Subject: Re: updates repo admission checklist hole

HI , 

It lloks that the hole is still open as now swig package update brokes the update.

$> yum update swig
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package swig.x86_64 0:1.3.39-1.fc10 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl(example) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: perl(it) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: perl(the) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: perl(argv) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64
--> Running transaction check
---> Package jython-demo.x86_64 0:2.2.1-0.1.Release_2_2_1.1.2.fc10 set to be updated
---> Package swig.x86_64 0:1.3.39-1.fc10 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl(it) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: perl(the) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: perl(argv) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: perl(argv) is needed by package swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates)
swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: perl(it) is needed by package swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates)
swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: perl(the) is needed by package swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates)
Error: Missing Dependency: perl(argv) is needed by package swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates)
Error: Missing Dependency: perl(it) is needed by package swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates)
Error: Missing Dependency: perl(the) is needed by package swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates)
 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
 You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
                        package-cleanup --dupes
                        rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

See more here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508517

Andrei.

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From: Suhan Andrei <sandi_ro at yahoo.com>
To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:03:27 PM
Subject: updates repo admission checklist hole

Hi ,

I think there is a hole in QA process that allows untested packages to get into the update repo. 
I may be wrong as well but at least please look into this:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508517  

as this is a case where a broken package pollute the updates repository. 

I am referring about current state of synce-hal package as reported by yum :

$yum list synce-hal
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Available Packages
synce-hal.x86_64                                       0.13.1-3.fc10                                        updates

PS:  I find here a policy described: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageSubmissionQAPolicy
but there is no detailed QA Check list , can someone help me with some pointers to follow for more details?

Thanks, Andrei.

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