Fit and Finish test days (was Re: 2009-07-01 - Fedora QA meeting recap)

Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com
Thu Jul 2 11:44:39 UTC 2009


On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 16:33 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> == Fedora 12 ''Fit n Finish'' Test Days == 
> 
> Announcement:
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00741.html
> 
> mclasen briefed the team on the upcoming desktop-focused
> [[Fit_and_Finish]] test days.  Traditional fedora test days focus on
> exercising upcoming features of the release. The goal of Fit'n'finish
> is
> to do a series of user-task focused test days, that are delivered with
> in the same manner as traditional Fedora test days.  The first event
> will be this Tuesday (July 07, 2009) with a focus on
> [[Fit_and_Finish/Display_Configuration]].

So, some comments here :)

1. To echo southern_gentleman, a live CD is key: you get far more people
showing up if you provide a live CD. See the F11 cycle test day pages
for examples on how to handle it (basically you just say 'up to date
Rawhide OR the live CD image' in the requirements section, and there's
another bit where you provide a link to download the live CD). Let me or
James know if you have any trouble generating or providing a live CD.

2. The page name is a bit sub-optimal. The wiki guys are trying very
hard to stop people using nested names, at least for new pages:
Names/Like/This don't make any sense in mediawiki, because the / doesn't
_mean_ anything, it's not - as far as mediawiki is concerned - actually
a separator, it's just a character. So we're supposed to be using 'flat'
names for all new Wiki stuff, and categorizing pages using, well,
categories. :) Also, we have a special Test_Day: space, which lets the
page be modified without a FAS account (this is important as it allows
people to leave feedback without signing the FAS). Also, it doesn't
really follow the system used by previous Test Day pages. I'd suggest:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-07-07_fitandfinish_display_configuration

or something similar to that.

3. The tests in the 'How to test' section should be presented as proper
test cases using the Wiki test day template, as was done for F11 cycle
test days. Again, see any recent F11 test day page to see how this is
done, and yell if you need help; I'm happy to work on turning these
skeletons into full test cases if you like, just yell. :) Writing them
up properly as  test cases makes it easier for people to test (and
reduces confusion and ambiguity during testing), and also makes it more
likely we can re-use the tests in future (as we'll be designing future
systems and tools to work with test cases written in the current Wiki
template-based form).

4. There's a few superficial things - the intro could specify that this
is a Fit and Finish track test day, there's no space before ? at the end
of a sentence in English, stuff like that - but I'll just fix those
myself, I think.

Thanks a lot for your effort in starting this enterprise!
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
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