ok, laptops loaded up and ready for testing
David
dgboles at comcast.net
Thu Mar 5 17:56:52 UTC 2009
On 3/5/2009 12:25 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, David wrote:
>> The way the update works is that *all*, you said 1500, packages
>> would be downloaded, then installed, and then the cleanup would
>> begin. That would take a lot of disk space with the potential to
>> fail at any stage.
> that's probably why, after updating *only* rpm* and yum, the first
> thing i did was install the downloadonly plugin, then "yum update
> --downloadonly", wait ... wait ... wait ... then burn all those
> packages to DVD before going any further. just to save time the next
> time.
> oh, and i set "keepcache=1". just playing it safe.
A good idea there. That will avoid most of the 'downloading again'
should things go south. An 'update' in a few days would only be recent
changes. It is not uncommon for there to be 50, or so, packages a day.
It all depends on how much of what you have installed.
>> For the 64bit you would get *all* of the i386 now i586 packages
>> install and all of the 64bit packages that have changed. And Rawhide
>> changes a lot every day.
> i understand that. it still brings us back to the same issue --
> should i *expect* "yum update" to just work, even with rawhide? as
> in, should i expect it not to totally hose my system to the point
> where i have to re-install from scratch?
I would. I have, as a time with nothing to do thing, installed a
release. Updated it to current. And then 'changed' it to Rawhide and
updated it then. And I had not problems.
>> Someone posted a script a while back, might have been here, that was
>> supposed to help someone with a disk space problem by doing the update a
>> little at a time. IIRC it was for a release upgrade but I don't see why
>> it would not work here.
> i have buckets of disk space -- i accepted the default disk
> partitioning so i have one honking big root filesystem (>80G). disk
> space is not an issue.
You had said 'laptop' and they are noted to not have large harddrives.
It sounds as if you will not have that problem.
>> And I would do this in level 3 and not in the GUI level 5. Less
>> things to go wrong that way.
>> You do know how to get to level three?
> yes, dear ... i've done it a time or two in my day. :-)
Sorry. Did not mean to be condescending. ;-) I have seen many
'experts' that only thought that they were experts. Many who were great
with a GUI to look at and lost at the CLI. There was a thread a while
back that had a 'many years of experience' guy that could not maintain
his network because he could not log into the GUI as root. He could
have. If he had that much experience. :-)
> rday
> --
> p.s. still waiting for suggestions as to what to do first if anyone
> wants to see the current state of the systems before i bork them
> totally. or i'll just start things rolling and you'll hear the angry
> shrieking at some point later this afternoon.
I don't know about the bork part. I really do believe that most
'problems' are self inflicted. Third party site packages is a big one.
Odd hardware is another big one. By 'odd' I mean not well supported.
Good luck.
--
David
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