From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Fri May  1 00:00:13 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:00:13 -0400
Subject: Can't stop log
In-Reply-To: <b3c915110904301556j362ad62cke8cf1571f08f0ab3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49FA077A.2000807@yahoo.com>	<20090430203215.GB25787@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
	<b3c915110904301556j362ad62cke8cf1571f08f0ab3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FA3B8D.2020501@gmail.com>

Jason Farrell wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com 
> <mailto:notting at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>     I'm having a heck of a time reproducing it - given that so far
>     I've only seen it once in about 20 reboots, it's not really lending
>     itself to useful debugging.
>
>
> Incomplete GUI shutdown happens about 20% of the time on my Acer 
> Aspire One.
>
> Random reproducibility is the worst kind. (The last non-hardware 
> random issue I recall was with mdadm in a race condition)
>
> -- 
> Jason
I can reproduce this regularly. GUI shutdown has worked twice in 40+ cycles.

TK009



From usul80 at gmail.com  Fri May  1 01:40:05 2009
From: usul80 at gmail.com (E.B. A.)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:40:05 -0500
Subject: Rebooting and shutdown made difficult
In-Reply-To: <20090430235530.GA4209@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
References: <20090430202309.GA24759@mail.harddata.com>
	<20090430235530.GA4209@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <a1d3651e0904301840r2aa65ed5k40d60be5b84ee6ef@mail.gmail.com>

As I said in another email previously I have problems rebooting the machine.
It get stuck right after the progress bar reaches the end. I waited 5+
minutes and nothing happens unless I press CTRL+ALT+DEL. Is there a way to
log what happens after a reboot command ?

Thanks,
Enrico Accenti
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090430/c4347471/attachment.htm>

From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Fri May  1 01:46:53 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 04:46:53 +0300
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <49FA548D.9000409@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have put up a FAQ at
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11
>
> I will be expanding this over time. If you have other unanswered
> questions, do let me know.
>
> Rahul
>
>   
A major feature in ext4 discussions is the ability to do live
defragmentation. Is the appropriate utility available?





From michal at harddata.com  Fri May  1 01:59:23 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:59:23 -0600
Subject: Rebooting and shutdown made difficult
In-Reply-To: <a1d3651e0904301840r2aa65ed5k40d60be5b84ee6ef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090430202309.GA24759@mail.harddata.com>
	<20090430235530.GA4209@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
	<a1d3651e0904301840r2aa65ed5k40d60be5b84ee6ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090501015923.GA31795@mail.harddata.com>

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 08:40:05PM -0500, E.B. A. wrote:
> Is there a way to log what happens
> after a reboot command ?

Some information.  If you enabled SysRq key by placing in
/etc/sysctl.conf 'kernel.sysrq =1' (this file is read while you are
booting) then you can use that key (Ctrl-Alt-PrScr + another key
and try Ctrl-Alt-PrScr-H to see what is available) to collect
something in logs provided that logging is still functional.

    Michal



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri May  1 02:26:27 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:26:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: F11 Preview - test with usbkey - upgrade partitions
In-Reply-To: <1241131956.12996.0.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
Message-ID: <687549.12387.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>





--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Mike Chambers <mike at miketc.net> wrote:

> From: Mike Chambers <mike at miketc.net>
> Subject: Re: F11 Preview - test with usbkey - upgrade partitions
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 3:52 PM
> On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 11:24 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:52:06 -0700 (PDT)
> > Mike Cloaked wrote:
> > 
> > > Since SElinux is there by default now
> > 
> > My checklist of things to do to systems has putting
> selinux=0
> > on the kernel boot options near the top of the list
> > (and editing /etc/selinux/config to say DISABLED -
> belt
> > and suspenders :-).
> 
> Editing the config above as well as selinux=0 is the same
> thing.  You
> can just edit the file and that will do it.

Guess he wan't to make sure that it(selinux) is disabled for good.  That is why he used "Belt and Suspenders"  :) 

The use of selinux=0, is what BLAG does.  

http://www.blagblagblag.org/


Regards,

Antonio 


      



From dennisml at conversis.de  Fri May  1 02:48:06 2009
From: dennisml at conversis.de (Dennis J.)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 04:48:06 +0200
Subject: F11 monitor configuration / virtualization
In-Reply-To: <1241121179.2766.42.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <49F9FFF8.1060701@conversis.de>
	<1241121179.2766.42.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <49FA62E6.9030309@conversis.de>

On 04/30/2009 09:52 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 21:46 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Where did the monitor configuration go in f11? I've booted a virtualized
>> instance of F11 using kvm but can only get a maximum resolution of 800x600.
>> The monitor is displayed as "unknown" and there seems to be no way to
>> select one (like for example a generic 1280x1024 one).
>> I'm also running an instance of WinXP using kvm and there I get higher
>> resolutions out of the box.
>
> What X driver do you end up using?  What does the X log look like?
>
> There's a hack in the cirrus driver to detect when we're running under
> kvm, but naturally it only works if you're running a sufficiently new
> kvm.  There is no equivalent hack in the vesa driver, but there
> certainly could be.

I just rebuilt the latest f11 qemu/kvm for my f10 host system and now I can 
get to 1024x768x24 or 1280x1027x16 but not higher. According to the log the 
cirrus "card" is only equipped with 4mb of video ram. Could this be a 
limiting factor? 4mb seems to be a rather low amount of ram these days for 
a video card.

Regards,
   Dennis



From maximilianbianco at gmail.com  Fri May  1 04:01:45 2009
From: maximilianbianco at gmail.com (max)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 00:01:45 -0400
Subject: SSH, firefox, and X
In-Reply-To: <20090429221552.GA24304@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>
References: <20090429202853.GB23643@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>
	<20090429221552.GA24304@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>
Message-ID: <20090501040145.GA19999@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>

My problem was an incorrectly set selinux boolean as far as FF is concerned(allow_execmem). The hanging on logout from ssh after running FF persists but again it does not occur if i run only emacs(it was the GUI type emacs too) and logout. 

 Since the most recent update(today)none of the graphical apps run when i log in via ssh. I get this instead :

debug1: Sending environment.
debug1: Sending env LANG = en_US.UTF-8
Last login: Thu Apr 30 23:29:07 2009 from 192.168.1.100
/usr/bin/xauth:  /home/maximus/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored

So i checked and ownership was root for some reason so i did the chown on it
and logged out and back in, twice before it worked but it does work again, though still hangs when logging out. The exception remains emacs (not the terminal mode either). EMACS RULZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!! 







-- 
"Any fool can know. The point is to understand" --Albert Einstein

Bored??
http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0

http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Fri May  1 05:07:15 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:07:15 -0700
Subject: GRAMPS Genealogy Software problem ???
Message-ID: <a1b313a10904302207vaaf5d93r5d2665e0a8c22e44@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

I am having a completely baffling and mind- blowing problem with
Gramps-3.1.1-3.  I can download and install it perfectly fine.  I can run it
once, but not twice after completing configuration of preferences or
importing a database!

Once I set the preferences or import a database, I can no longer open the
software...

Does someone know enough geek speak to read a bug report, and possibly tell
me what to do???  Can I attach a text file to this or should I copy the
contents into a message???

My system is loaded off F11-Preview-i386-Live.iso, and it is fully updated
also?  Dependency resolution for Gramps was all found by yum, so I know it
is not something that I am missing...

Any help would be greatly and incredibly appreciated!

Sincerely Yours,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090430/280cc399/attachment.htm>

From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri May  1 06:13:55 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 11:43:55 +0530
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <49FA548D.9000409@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<49FA548D.9000409@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <49FA9323.7090100@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/01/2009 07:16 AM, shmuel siegel wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have put up a FAQ at
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11
>>
>> I will be expanding this over time. If you have other unanswered
>> questions, do let me know.
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>>   
> A major feature in ext4 discussions is the ability to do live
> defragmentation. Is the appropriate utility available?

No. I added the answer to the FAQ as well.

Rahul




From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri May  1 09:35:00 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 15:05:00 +0530
Subject: RFC: Fedora 11 FAQ
Message-ID: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>

Hi,

I have posted a draft of the Fedora 11 FAQ at

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ

Feel free to edit the wiki if you want to highlight anything else or
drop me a mail and I will add them.

Rahul



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri May  1 13:10:20 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri,  1 May 2009 13:10:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090501 changes
Message-ID: <20090501131020.8CB261F8205@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri May  1 06:15:03 UTC 2009

New package perl-Net-OAuth
        OAuth protocol support library for Perl
Removed package backintime
Removed package bareftp
Removed package camcardsync
Removed package dnsjava
Removed package globus-callout
Removed package globus-gsi-openssl-error
Removed package globus-gsi-proxy-ssl
Removed package globus-openssl
Removed package globus-rsl
Removed package globus-xio
Removed package gpscorrelate
Removed package gxmessage
Removed package jjack
Removed package jsl
Removed package libgarmin
Removed package libvmime
Removed package mingw32-libglade2
Removed package mingw32-libp11
Removed package mingw32-libxml++
Removed package msp430-gcc
Removed package nssbackup
Removed package ogmtools
Removed package perl-B-Hooks-OP-Check
Removed package perl-B-Hooks-OP-Check-StashChange
Removed package perl-Log-LogLite
Removed package perl-MooseX-Storage
Removed package perl-Net-UPnP
Removed package perl-RT-Client-REST
Removed package perl-Test-Aggregate
Removed package photoprint
Removed package photoprint-borders
Removed package php-feedcreator
Removed package php-geshi
Removed package pianobooster
Removed package python-altgraph
Removed package python-arm4
Removed package python-upoints
Removed package rubygem-ferret
Removed package sems
Removed package sing
Removed package systemtapguiserver
Removed package termit
Updated Packages:

anaconda-11.5.0.48-2
--------------------
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 11.5.0.48-2
- Bump release to be able to tag.

* Fri Apr 24 2009 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> - 11.5.0.48-1
- Fix handling of swap files. (#496529) (dlehman)
- Pass anaconda to turnOnSwap so we can use swap files. (dlehman)
- Fix incorrect attribute name use for retrofit flag. (dlehman)
- Use slightly better checks when testing for 0 size (#493656, #497186,
  - If the LV has no child, don't attempt to grab its format (#497239).
  (clumens)
- Apply the global passphrase when doing kickstart autopart (#497533).
  (clumens)
- Add support for encryption passphrase retrofits. (dlehman)
- Bring luks_add_key and luks_remove_key back into devicelibs.crypto.
  (dlehman)
- Don't let lvremove failures from incomplete vgs crash the install.
  (#497401) (dlehman)
- Allow setting a mountpoint w/o formatting an encrypted partition.
  (#495417) (dlehman)
- Remove encryption from preexisting device if "Encrypt" is deactivated.
  (dlehman)
- Fix indentation of preexisting partition handling block. (dlehman)
- The device passed to the luks passphrase dialogs is a string. (#492123)
  (dlehman)
- Protect against tracebacks from the partition isFoo properties. (dlehman)
- Fix handling of bind mounts. (#496406) (dlehman)
- Add more filesystem checks. (clumens)
- Support vfat filesystems in the partitioning UI (#496351). (clumens)
- Remove devices in leaves first order (#496630) (hdegoede)
- Don't remove an inconsistent lvm partition from the devicetree (#496638)
  (hdegoede)
- Move isEfi to be a property on Platform instead of on X86 (#497394).
  (clumens)
- Support --encrypted --useexisting on kickstart installs (#497147).
  (clumens)
- When making a RAID device, require that some members be selected
  (#491932). (clumens)
- When catching an OSError, handle it as an object instead of a tuple
  (#497374). (clumens)
- Enforce the fstype that holds /boot on kickstart installs (#497238).
  (clumens)
- Fix ps3 platform support (#497203) (katzj)
- Clean up rpmdb locks at the end of the install (#496961) (katzj)
- Don't allow /boot to be on an encrypted device (#496866). (clumens)
- Use the correct unmount method (#496764). (clumens)


drupal-6.11-1.fc11
------------------
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 6.11-1
- Update to 6.11, SA-CORE-2009-005.

* Mon Apr 27 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 6.10-2
- Added SELinux/sendmail note to README, BZ 497642.


elinks-0.12-0.13.pre3.fc11
--------------------------
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Kamil Dudka <kdudka at redhat.com> 0.12-0.13.pre3
- use appropriate BuildRequires for nss_compat_ossl
- support for trusted CA certificates loading from file in PEM format
- enable certificate verification by default via configuration
  file(#495532)


fedora-release-10.93-2
----------------------
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 10.93-2
- Drop reference to the "test" key, we only do one key per release now

* Tue Apr 14 2009 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 10.93-1
- Bump for F11 Preview
- Add the release name


filezilla-3.2.4.1-1.fc11
------------------------
* Tue Apr 28 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 3.2.4.1-1
- Update to 3.2.4.1

* Tue Apr 21 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 3.2.4-1
- Update to 3.2.4


grub-0.97-50.fc11
-----------------
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com> - 0.97-50
- Handle virtio_blk disks and their crazy new device name in grub-install
  (rhbz#479760)

* Thu Apr 16 2009 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com> - 0.97-49
- Fix efi booting on machines with continguous memory regions across
  the 1G boundary.


gtk2-2.16.1-4.fc11
------------------
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.16.1-4
- Ship the xim immodule separately


kde-settings-4.2-9.20090429svn.fc11
-----------------------------------
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2-9.20090429svn
- krunnerrc: disable contacts plugin, avoids akonadi launch on first login


lcms-1.18-2.fc11
----------------
* Wed Apr 22 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.18-2
- Add lcms-CVE-2009-0793.patch from 1.18a


ltsp-5.1.72-1.fc11
------------------
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 5.1.72-1
- no code changes, only important documentation update regarding disabling ltspbr0
  see /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ltspbr0


nss_compat_ossl-0.9.5-3.fc11
----------------------------
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Rob Crittenden <rcritten at redhat.com> - 0.9.5-2
- Resolve BZ 497788, implement default loading of root CAs

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Rob Crittenden <rcritten at redhat.com> - 0.9.5-3
- Bump NVR so it isn't lower than F-10

* Mon Apr 20 2009 Rob Crittenden <rcritten at redhat.com> - 0.9.5-1
- Update to 0.9.5
- License changed to MIT


opencv-1.0.0-15.fc11
--------------------
* Fri Apr 24 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.0.0-15
- Disable make check failure

* Wed Apr 22 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.0.0-14
- Fix for gcc44
- Enable BR jasper-devel
- Disable ldconfig run on python modules (uneeded)
- Prevent timestamp change on install

* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.0.0-13
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild


Summary:
Added Packages: 1
Removed Packages: 42
Modified Packages: 12









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From notting at redhat.com  Fri May  1 13:43:17 2009
From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 09:43:17 -0400
Subject: Rebooting and shutdown made difficult
In-Reply-To: <20090430235530.GA4209@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
References: <20090430202309.GA24759@mail.harddata.com>
	<20090430235530.GA4209@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090501134317.GA11047@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>

Bill Nottingham (notting at redhat.com) said: 
> Looks like various processes are stuck in VT_WAITACTIVE; this may
> or may not be related.

Further research shows it's not related.

Bill



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May  1 15:26:45 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 08:26:45 -0700
Subject: RFC: Fedora 11 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>
References: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1241191605.2811.8.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 15:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have posted a draft of the Fedora 11 FAQ at
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ
> 
> Feel free to edit the wiki if you want to highlight anything else or
> drop me a mail and I will add them.

It's nicely written, but it seems like a bit of an awkward document in
conception - somewhere between Release Notes and Errata and a general
Fedora (not really Fedora 11) FAQ. Couldn't we somehow reconcile it with
some of the other release documentation to avoid duplication of effort?
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May  1 15:36:50 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 08:36:50 -0700
Subject: GRAMPS Genealogy Software problem ???
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10904302207vaaf5d93r5d2665e0a8c22e44@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10904302207vaaf5d93r5d2665e0a8c22e44@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241192210.2811.11.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 22:07 -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> I am having a completely baffling and mind- blowing problem with
> Gramps-3.1.1-3.  I can download and install it perfectly fine.  I can
> run it once, but not twice after completing configuration of
> preferences or importing a database!
> 
> Once I set the preferences or import a database, I can no longer open
> the software...
> 
> Does someone know enough geek speak to read a bug report, and possibly
> tell me what to do???  Can I attach a text file to this or should I
> copy the contents into a message???
> 
> My system is loaded off F11-Preview-i386-Live.iso, and it is fully
> updated also?  Dependency resolution for Gramps was all found by yum,
> so I know it is not something that I am missing...
> 
> Any help would be greatly and incredibly appreciated!

Hi, Rob. The most basic thing to do would be to run gramps from a
console. Open a terminal and then run it - it's probably just called
gramps, so just type 'gramps' and hit enter. If we're lucky, some useful
message explaining what's wrong will be printed on the console. Please
paste that message, if there is one. Thanks!
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri May  1 15:42:42 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 21:12:42 +0530
Subject: RFC: Fedora 11 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1241191605.2811.8.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241191605.2811.8.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <49FB1872.50103@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/01/2009 08:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 15:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have posted a draft of the Fedora 11 FAQ at
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ
>>
>> Feel free to edit the wiki if you want to highlight anything else or
>> drop me a mail and I will add them.
> 
> It's nicely written, but it seems like a bit of an awkward document in
> conception - somewhere between Release Notes and Errata and a general
> Fedora (not really Fedora 11) FAQ. Couldn't we somehow reconcile it with
> some of the other release documentation to avoid duplication of effort?

In the past, such release specific FAQ's have often been very helpful in
addressing the repeatedly asked questions. I can't anticipate the FAQ's
so the initial seed information tends to be a bit more generic. I cross
reference existing documentation such as release notes to avoid
duplication where possible.

I am not very happy with the current release notes structure and will be
spending more effort for the next release to get it better match what I
think is the right style.

Rahul



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May  1 15:52:45 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 08:52:45 -0700
Subject: RFC: Fedora 11 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <49FB1872.50103@fedoraproject.org>
References: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241191605.2811.8.camel@adam.local.net>
	<49FB1872.50103@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1241193165.2811.13.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 21:12 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/01/2009 08:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 15:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have posted a draft of the Fedora 11 FAQ at
> >>
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ
> >>
> >> Feel free to edit the wiki if you want to highlight anything else or
> >> drop me a mail and I will add them.
> > 
> > It's nicely written, but it seems like a bit of an awkward document in
> > conception - somewhere between Release Notes and Errata and a general
> > Fedora (not really Fedora 11) FAQ. Couldn't we somehow reconcile it with
> > some of the other release documentation to avoid duplication of effort?
> 
> In the past, such release specific FAQ's have often been very helpful in
> addressing the repeatedly asked questions. I can't anticipate the FAQ's
> so the initial seed information tends to be a bit more generic. I cross
> reference existing documentation such as release notes to avoid
> duplication where possible.
> 
> I am not very happy with the current release notes structure and will be
> spending more effort for the next release to get it better match what I
> think is the right style.

OK, understood, sounds fine to me. As I said, the current content looks
good but I see a few trivial language errors - is it OK with you if I go
in and fix them directly?
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri May  1 16:08:38 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 21:38:38 +0530
Subject: RFC: Fedora 11 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1241193165.2811.13.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>	<1241191605.2811.8.camel@adam.local.net>	<49FB1872.50103@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241193165.2811.13.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <49FB1E86.7080407@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/01/2009 09:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

> 
> OK, understood, sounds fine to me. As I said, the current content looks
> good but I see a few trivial language errors - is it OK with you if I go
> in and fix them directly?

Of course. It is a wiki.

Rahul



From stickster at gmail.com  Fri May  1 16:06:37 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:06:37 -0400
Subject: RFC: Fedora 11 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <49FB1872.50103@fedoraproject.org>
References: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241191605.2811.8.camel@adam.local.net>
	<49FB1872.50103@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20090501160637.GK6034@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 09:12:42PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/01/2009 08:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 15:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have posted a draft of the Fedora 11 FAQ at
> >>
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ
> >>
> >> Feel free to edit the wiki if you want to highlight anything else or
> >> drop me a mail and I will add them.
> > 
> > It's nicely written, but it seems like a bit of an awkward document in
> > conception - somewhere between Release Notes and Errata and a general
> > Fedora (not really Fedora 11) FAQ. Couldn't we somehow reconcile it with
> > some of the other release documentation to avoid duplication of effort?
> 
> In the past, such release specific FAQ's have often been very helpful in
> addressing the repeatedly asked questions. I can't anticipate the FAQ's
> so the initial seed information tends to be a bit more generic. I cross
> reference existing documentation such as release notes to avoid
> duplication where possible.

I see places where that's not done, the 'alsamixer' workaround among
them.  If you could look at the preview release notes and link to the
appropriate places (using "f11" instead of "f11preview" in the URL),
that would be good.  Documentation maintenance is much more difficult
if it has to be done in multiple places rather than through
incorporation by reference.

> I am not very happy with the current release notes structure and will be
> spending more effort for the next release to get it better match what I
> think is the right style.

The Docs team remains open to assistance and welcomes input.  I would
recommend you start helping with the ideation process now, since the
discussion has already started:

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2009-May/msg00001.html

-- 
Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
  http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug



From maximilianbianco at gmail.com  Fri May  1 16:59:56 2009
From: maximilianbianco at gmail.com (max)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:59:56 -0400
Subject: Can't stop log
In-Reply-To: <52199.4307.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20090430205223.GA13002@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>
	<52199.4307.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090501165956.GC4634@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 02:19:34PM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > -- 
> 
> Martin first reported the shutdown troubles here:
> 
> http://www.nabble.com/Rawhide---shutdown-not-working-to23074751.html
> 
> and posted his hardware as well.  
> 
> I have encountered this on several of my rawhide machines, but not all of them :)
> 
> One which I did encounter this is :
> 
> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_f15ce4e7-e658-4ea2-bd89-4f9b8b1d645e
> 
> and this one too:
> 
> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_808fc0dc-61b4-4f57-a41a-62cdc710058d
> 

The only common element that jumps out at me is that all the machines have wireless interfaces. A source of trouble with linux if ever there was one, however I have just been bitten by this bug for the first time now,make that twice. This box doesn't have wireless so there goes that idea. Its the xserver i'm guessing, it hangs when I logout from ssh too but only if I use an app like gthumb or firefox. If I only run emacs then no problems it just logs right out. Reminds me to follow up on the other thread since FF works now. Anyone know what emacs does different from a graphical presentation standpoint than say FF or gThumb?It would seem that it does something the others do not when it closes its  window. Since this isn't a problem from the console or shutting down from gdm, I would guess Xserver issue but I don't recall if anyone mentioned their desktop enviro or not, is this affecting KDE and XFCE as well? Anyway its just a guess since I could fit what I know about thr xserver on a business card in large fonts :^)



-- 
"Any fool can know. The point is to understand" --Albert Einstein

Bored??
http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0

http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball



From usul80 at gmail.com  Fri May  1 17:52:59 2009
From: usul80 at gmail.com (E.B. A.)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:52:59 -0500
Subject: F11 Preview: two more issues
In-Reply-To: <385866f0904301511x1a73b607lcc7c1ec04c28c10a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1d3651e0904301251t3c9ce212i5e229cecdd53ebf7@mail.gmail.com>
	<385866f0904301511x1a73b607lcc7c1ec04c28c10a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a1d3651e0905011052h2bbc2b8cp1d59c038fb6148a7@mail.gmail.com>

> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skpye

It worked, thanks!. I had to install
libv4l-0.5.9-1.fc11.i586<ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/development/i386/os/Packages/libv4l-0.5.9-1.fc11.i586.rpm>and
then, strangely, reinstall skype.

Enrico Accenti
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090501/c6d2df09/attachment.htm>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May  1 18:00:27 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 11:00:27 -0700
Subject: Revised draft of priority / severity mail to -devel list
Message-ID: <1241200827.2811.25.camel@adam.local.net>

Hi, guys. Here's a revised draft of my proposed mail on the priority /
severity issue to -devel-list. It addresses the points that have come up
since the original draft (I think, I hope I didn't miss any) and adds
Matej's alternative to the original proposal.

Does this look OK?

------

Feedback request: Priority / Severity use on Bugzilla

Hi, folks. We in the QA and Bugzappers groups have recently been
discussing the use of the Priority and Severity fields in Bugzilla.

At present, the status is that these are more or less ignored by
Bugzappers and most maintainers; some maintainers use and set them for
their own packages according to their own system. The reason for their
neglect, as we see it, is that there's been no convention for their use,
and no overall responsibility in setting them - they're usually set
arbitrarily by reporters, and thus convey no useful information.

We think it may be useful for the Bugzappers group to start setting
these fields as part of the triage process. To address one potential
issue right off the top - this would be *entirely* advisory, like all
the other work of the Bugzappers: it's intended to provide a service to
maintainers, nothing more. It would not be in any way prescriptive - we
don't want any other group to be able to tell maintainers what they
should work on. We simply think that setting these fields consistently
as part of triage might prove useful to some, or all, maintainers.

It's also just proposed as a trial - if we try it and it doesn't seem
to be working out well, we'll stop it.

We have a draft convention for how these fields should be set here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend#Severity_and_Priority .
As you can see, it basically suggests that the severity field be used
to rate the importance of the issue in the context only of the
affected package, and priority be used to rate the importance of the
issue in the context of the distribution as a whole.

There is an alternative proposal that triagers would set only the
severity field, which would work mostly as it does in the other
proposal, except that the Urgent severity would be used for issues
which, in the triager's judgement, have serious consequences for the
distro as a whole. The priority field, in this proposal, is reserved
for the package maintainer(s) to use, no-one else gets to set it at any
point.

In our proposals, triagers would set these field(s) in as consistent a
manner as possible as part of the initial triage process. Bug reporters
could be prevented from setting the fields at all, at any time, to
address the possibility that they might just set their reports to
High or Urgent regardless of their actual importance.

There's no action required or even suggested of any maintainer for any
value of either field - it's simply there to provide information. We
feel that maintainers might then find it useful to organize their bugs
by severity or priority to make it easier to identify the most urgent
issues to address.

A few specifics: the system would happily accommodate maintainers who
have their own systems for using these fields. Triagers would be
specifically instructed not to touch these fields if they had been
previously touched by the maintainer - effectively, maintainer's
decision on these fields is final. So if you disagree with the triager's
opinion, or you have your own system for using these fields, you could
simply set them to whatever you like and the Bugzappers will not change
them back.

So, really, we just want your feedback: do you think this proposal might
prove useful to you as a maintainer? Can you see any problems with it,
or potential refinements or improvements? Which of the two slightly
differing proposals would you prefer? Bugzappers' mission is to ease
the lives of maintainers, so we don't want to put this in place unless
it's seen as beneficial by at least some maintainers. Thanks!
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From rc040203 at freenet.de  Fri May  1 18:05:26 2009
From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 20:05:26 +0200
Subject: RFC: Fedora 11 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <20090501160637.GK6034@localhost.localdomain>
References: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>	<1241191605.2811.8.camel@adam.local.net>	<49FB1872.50103@fedoraproject.org>
	<20090501160637.GK6034@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <49FB39E6.1000702@freenet.de>

Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 09:12:42PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 05/01/2009 08:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 15:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have posted a draft of the Fedora 11 FAQ at
>>>>
>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to edit the wiki if you want to highlight anything else or
>>>> drop me a mail and I will add them.
>>> It's nicely written, but it seems like a bit of an awkward document in
>>> conception - somewhere between Release Notes and Errata and a general
>>> Fedora (not really Fedora 11) FAQ. Couldn't we somehow reconcile it with
>>> some of the other release documentation to avoid duplication of effort?
>> In the past, such release specific FAQ's have often been very helpful in
>> addressing the repeatedly asked questions. I can't anticipate the FAQ's
>> so the initial seed information tends to be a bit more generic. I cross
>> reference existing documentation such as release notes to avoid
>> duplication where possible.
> 
> I see places where that's not done, the 'alsamixer' workaround among
> them. 
IMO the alsamixer/pulseaudio section lacks any description of what to 
users are supposed to do to get their issues fixed.

Ralf



From michal at harddata.com  Fri May  1 18:07:56 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:07:56 -0600
Subject: Can't stop log
In-Reply-To: <20090501165956.GC4634@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>
References: <20090430205223.GA13002@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>
	<52199.4307.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<20090501165956.GC4634@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>
Message-ID: <20090501180756.GB26519@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 12:59:56PM -0400, max wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 02:19:34PM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > > -- 
> > 
> > Martin first reported the shutdown troubles here:
> > 
> > http://www.nabble.com/Rawhide---shutdown-not-working-to23074751.html
> > 
> > and posted his hardware as well.  
> > 
> > I have encountered this on several of my rawhide machines, but not all of them :)
> > 
> 
> The only common element that jumps out at me is that all the
> machines have wireless interfaces.

The one from which https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498514
originated does not have wireless.  It is a desktop machine with
a rather old x86_64 mobo and a radeon graphics card.

   Michal



From stickster at gmail.com  Fri May  1 19:03:54 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:03:54 -0400
Subject: RFC: Fedora 11 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <49FB39E6.1000702@freenet.de>
References: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241191605.2811.8.camel@adam.local.net>
	<49FB1872.50103@fedoraproject.org>
	<20090501160637.GK6034@localhost.localdomain>
	<49FB39E6.1000702@freenet.de>
Message-ID: <20090501190354.GT6034@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 08:05:26PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 09:12:42PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>> On 05/01/2009 08:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 15:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have posted a draft of the Fedora 11 FAQ at
>>>>>
>>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to edit the wiki if you want to highlight anything else or
>>>>> drop me a mail and I will add them.
>>>> It's nicely written, but it seems like a bit of an awkward document in
>>>> conception - somewhere between Release Notes and Errata and a general
>>>> Fedora (not really Fedora 11) FAQ. Couldn't we somehow reconcile it with
>>>> some of the other release documentation to avoid duplication of effort?
>>> In the past, such release specific FAQ's have often been very helpful in
>>> addressing the repeatedly asked questions. I can't anticipate the FAQ's
>>> so the initial seed information tends to be a bit more generic. I cross
>>> reference existing documentation such as release notes to avoid
>>> duplication where possible.
>>
>> I see places where that's not done, the 'alsamixer' workaround among
>> them. 
> IMO the alsamixer/pulseaudio section lacks any description of what to  
> users are supposed to do to get their issues fixed.

I think the proper thing to do is to simply refer users to:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Multimedia_Beat#Volume_Control

I've added a note there on how to file bugs to help solve the
underlying problem.  There's some sort of markup nonsense going on
that's making it appear incorrectly right now, but we'll straighten it
out in a few minutes, hopefully.

-- 
Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
  http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Fri May  1 19:47:12 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 15:47:12 -0400
Subject: boot failure rawhide 20080501
Message-ID: <49FB51C0.1000100@cox.net>

stops at (DRM) radeon loading, or so I think.  No clue as to what 
happened.  I am going to repeat the install before bz'ing something.

(Side note:  HTTP install slow and dependency resolution is maddenly slow.)



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri May  1 19:55:58 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:55:58 -0500
Subject: boot failure rawhide 20080501
In-Reply-To: <49FB51C0.1000100@cox.net>
References: <49FB51C0.1000100@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20090501195558.GA8118@wolff.to>

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 15:47:12 -0400,
  "Clyde E. Kunkel" <clydekunkel7734 at cox.net> wrote:
> stops at (DRM) radeon loading, or so I think.  No clue as to what  
> happened.  I am going to repeat the install before bz'ing something.
>
> (Side note:  HTTP install slow and dependency resolution is maddenly slow.)

What kind of card do you have? If it's a 9200 you might want to look at:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496366



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Fri May  1 23:25:00 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 19:25:00 -0400
Subject: boot failure rawhide 20080501
In-Reply-To: <49FB51C0.1000100@cox.net>
References: <49FB51C0.1000100@cox.net>
Message-ID: <49FB84CC.60201@cox.net>

On 05/01/2009 03:47 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> stops at (DRM) radeon loading, or so I think.  No clue as to what
> happened.  I am going to repeat the install before bz'ing something.
>
> (Side note: HTTP install slow and dependency resolution is maddenly slow.)
>
  Tried again without encrypting anything, but can't get past radeon or 
wireless mouse.  A completly up-to-date rawhide installation on same 
system boots fine with same kernel. Difference is attempted install is 
x86_64 while rawhide system is 32 bit.

Still don't know where to go except to try development/os/i386 this time 
around.



From cmdrunix at gmail.com  Fri May  1 23:48:48 2009
From: cmdrunix at gmail.com (cmdrUNIX)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:48:48 -0400
Subject: Upgrade from Beta to Preview
In-Reply-To: <5350D955-AE19-4D58-9DC9-094D77A36446@gmail.com>
References: <5350D955-AE19-4D58-9DC9-094D77A36446@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <431afed80905011648h7696f23y2172dbdec268ff14@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like the fedore-release 10.93 just came down in the yum update 1 hour
ago. Funny thing is is it added fedora.repo but it left it disabled and left
fedora-rawhide.repo enabled. So I guess what Bruno said earlier is reversed.
I have to disable rawhide to stay on 11 now that the new fedora-release is
out.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Brian Callahan <cmdrunix at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Is there a way to change from Beta to Preview with yum ? I checked the
> > preview and the fedora-release rpm is the same as the Beta release.
>
> >>If you are willing to go past the preview use yum update.
>
> What do you mean. I was running Fed 10 and did a yum upgrade . I have been
> yum updating since yesterday morning. My system still shows rawhide. I was
> just thinking that the preview release would change the repos from Rawhide
> to Fed 11 or even 10.92 but I am thinking now that it doesn't get changed
> until the Final release. I just do want to be on rawhide once I am on Fed
> 11. I will run the rawhide on a different boot disk or in a VM.
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090501/14021a05/attachment.htm>

From Samba30i at aim.com  Sat May  2 00:05:31 2009
From: Samba30i at aim.com (Greg)
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 10:05:31 +1000
Subject: Upgrade from Beta to Preview
In-Reply-To: <431afed80905011648h7696f23y2172dbdec268ff14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5350D955-AE19-4D58-9DC9-094D77A36446@gmail.com>
	<431afed80905011648h7696f23y2172dbdec268ff14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FB8E4B.6080202@aim.com>

On 2/05/2009 9:48 AM, cmdrUNIX wrote:
> Looks like the fedore-release 10.93 just came down in the yum update 1 
> hour ago. Funny thing is is it added fedora.repo but it left it 
> disabled and left fedora-rawhide.repo enabled. So I guess what Bruno 
> said earlier is reversed. I have to disable rawhide to stay on 11 now 
> that the new fedora-release is out.
leave your repo's on rawhide its not " officially  Fedora11 " yet once 
Fedora11 is actually released rawhide will switch over to the main 
fedora update repo's



From bruno at wolff.to  Sat May  2 00:10:58 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:10:58 -0500
Subject: Upgrade from Beta to Preview
In-Reply-To: <431afed80905011648h7696f23y2172dbdec268ff14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5350D955-AE19-4D58-9DC9-094D77A36446@gmail.com>
	<431afed80905011648h7696f23y2172dbdec268ff14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090502001058.GA14360@wolff.to>

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 19:48:48 -0400,
  cmdrUNIX <cmdrunix at gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks like the fedore-release 10.93 just came down in the yum update 1 hour
> ago. Funny thing is is it added fedora.repo but it left it disabled and left
> fedora-rawhide.repo enabled. So I guess what Bruno said earlier is reversed.
> I have to disable rawhide to stay on 11 now that the new fedora-release is
> out.

I looked at that update and the main change seems to be to tighten security.
The http mirrorlist urls were replaced with https urls.



From cmdrunix at gmail.com  Sat May  2 00:17:31 2009
From: cmdrunix at gmail.com (cmdrUNIX)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 20:17:31 -0400
Subject: Upgrade from Beta to Preview
In-Reply-To: <20090502001058.GA14360@wolff.to>
References: <5350D955-AE19-4D58-9DC9-094D77A36446@gmail.com>
	<431afed80905011648h7696f23y2172dbdec268ff14@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502001058.GA14360@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <431afed80905011717y440e179cy798afb3b9e887fc9@mail.gmail.com>

So I see the https in the rawhide repos, http in the fedora.repo and my
/etc/fedora-release says "Fedora release 10.93 (Leonidas) which was still
saying 10.92 rawhide before the latest update. I checked the logs and
fedora-release 10.93 rpm was installed. So I disabled the rawhide repos and
enabled fedora.repo.

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:

> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 19:48:48 -0400,
>  cmdrUNIX <cmdrunix at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Looks like the fedore-release 10.93 just came down in the yum update 1
> hour
> > ago. Funny thing is is it added fedora.repo but it left it disabled and
> left
> > fedora-rawhide.repo enabled. So I guess what Bruno said earlier is
> reversed.
> > I have to disable rawhide to stay on 11 now that the new fedora-release
> is
> > out.
>
> I looked at that update and the main change seems to be to tighten
> security.
> The http mirrorlist urls were replaced with https urls.
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090501/be0aee97/attachment.htm>

From jkeating at redhat.com  Sat May  2 00:28:04 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:28:04 -0700
Subject: Upgrade from Beta to Preview
In-Reply-To: <431afed80905011717y440e179cy798afb3b9e887fc9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5350D955-AE19-4D58-9DC9-094D77A36446@gmail.com>
	<431afed80905011648h7696f23y2172dbdec268ff14@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502001058.GA14360@wolff.to>
	<431afed80905011717y440e179cy798afb3b9e887fc9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241224084.3570.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 20:17 -0400, cmdrUNIX wrote:
> So I disabled the rawhide repos and
> enabled fedora.repo.

That is the wrong thing to do at this point.  We are not ready for the
"fedora" repo to be Fedora 11 yet.  That will be announced when it is
ready, and a fedora-release package will appropriately set things that
way.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090501/4c38b7f4/attachment.sig>

From cmdrunix at gmail.com  Sat May  2 00:36:19 2009
From: cmdrunix at gmail.com (cmdrUNIX)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 20:36:19 -0400
Subject: Upgrade from Beta to Preview
In-Reply-To: <20090502001058.GA14360@wolff.to>
References: <5350D955-AE19-4D58-9DC9-094D77A36446@gmail.com>
	<431afed80905011648h7696f23y2172dbdec268ff14@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502001058.GA14360@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <431afed80905011736j5697b137xf9cec970ba6da68f@mail.gmail.com>

OK I see your point that is is not 11 yet but the update did make it 10.93
so I think we need to sort this out cause now I am a bit confused now we
have 10.92 rawhide, 10.93 Leonidas and soon 11 Leonidas  and what is rawhide
now ? So where are we suppsed to be doing updates from if we want to stay at
11 and not go past it to the New rawhide ? I mean if the new rpm installed
fedora.repo then shouldn't we be using it and not fedora-rawhide. Have I
just confused myself through this release period ? :-)
 Here is a look at what I see got installed after the update
root at penguin1 yum.repos.d]# rpm -qal fedora-release
/etc/fedora-release
/etc/issue
/etc/issue.net
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-10-primary
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-11-primary
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-i386
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ia64
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc64
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-primary
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-10-primary
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-11-primary
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ia64
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-primary
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64
/etc/redhat-release
/etc/rpm/macros.dist
/etc/system-release
/etc/system-release-cpe
/etc/yum.repos.d
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo
/usr/share/doc/fedora-release-10.93
/usr/share/doc/fedora-release-10.93/GPL
/usr/share/fedora-release
/usr/share/fedora-release/README
/usr/share/fedora-release/fedora-live-base.ks
/usr/share/fedora-release/fedora-livecd-desktop-default.ks
/usr/share/fedora-release/fedora-livecd-kde.ks
/usr/share/fedora-release/rawhide-fedora.ks
[root at penguin1 yum.repos.d]# more /etc/issue
Fedora release 10.93 (Leonidas)

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:

> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 19:48:48 -0400,
>  cmdrUNIX <cmdrunix at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Looks like the fedore-release 10.93 just came down in the yum update 1
> hour
> > ago. Funny thing is is it added fedora.repo but it left it disabled and
> left
> > fedora-rawhide.repo enabled. So I guess what Bruno said earlier is
> reversed.
> > I have to disable rawhide to stay on 11 now that the new fedora-release
> is
> > out.
>
> I looked at that update and the main change seems to be to tighten
> security.
> The http mirrorlist urls were replaced with https urls.
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090501/3b703399/attachment.htm>

From Samba30i at aim.com  Sat May  2 00:50:38 2009
From: Samba30i at aim.com (Greg)
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 10:50:38 +1000
Subject: Upgrade from Beta to Preview
In-Reply-To: <431afed80905011736j5697b137xf9cec970ba6da68f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5350D955-AE19-4D58-9DC9-094D77A36446@gmail.com>	<431afed80905011648h7696f23y2172dbdec268ff14@mail.gmail.com>	<20090502001058.GA14360@wolff.to>
	<431afed80905011736j5697b137xf9cec970ba6da68f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FB98DE.2050701@aim.com>

On 2/05/2009 10:36 AM, cmdrUNIX wrote:
> OK I see your point that is is not 11 yet but the update did make it 
> 10.93 so I think we need to sort this out cause now I am a bit 
> confused now we have 10.92 rawhide, 10.93 Leonidas and soon 11 
> Leonidas  and what is rawhide now ? So where are we suppsed to be 
> doing updates from if we want to stay at 11 and not go past it to the 
> New rawhide ? I mean if the new rpm installed fedora.repo then 
> shouldn't we be using it and not fedora-rawhide. Have I just confused 
> myself through this release period ? :-)
>
>  Here is a look at what I see got installed after the update
>
> root at penguin1 yum.repos.d]# rpm -qal fedora-release
> /etc/fedora-release
> /etc/issue
> /etc/issue.net <http://issue.net>
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-10-primary
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-11-primary
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-i386
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ia64
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc64
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-primary
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-10-primary
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-11-primary
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ia64
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-primary
> /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64
> /etc/redhat-release
> /etc/rpm/macros.dist
> /etc/system-release
> /etc/system-release-cpe
> /etc/yum.repos.d
> /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo
> /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo
> /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo
> /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo
> /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-10.93
> /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-10.93/GPL
> /usr/share/fedora-release
> /usr/share/fedora-release/README
> /usr/share/fedora-release/fedora-live-base.ks
> /usr/share/fedora-release/fedora-livecd-desktop-default.ks
> /usr/share/fedora-release/fedora-livecd-kde.ks
> /usr/share/fedora-release/rawhide-fedora.ks
> [root at penguin1 yum.repos.d]# more /etc/issue
> Fedora release 10.93 (Leonidas)
you may wanna Bottom Post to when replying

the fedora-release-10.93 is still on rawhide which will bring down 
updates as there pushed, untill you actually download the 
*fedora-release-11.0* then you will no longer be on rawhide repo, it'll 
automatically switch over to the fedora repo's. you do not need to 
mnually disable/enable other repo's wait till the actual 
fedora-release-11.0 comes out an let it switch it over for you.



From mike at miketc.net  Sat May  2 00:51:35 2009
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 19:51:35 -0500
Subject: Upgrade from Beta to Preview
In-Reply-To: <431afed80905011736j5697b137xf9cec970ba6da68f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5350D955-AE19-4D58-9DC9-094D77A36446@gmail.com>
	<431afed80905011648h7696f23y2172dbdec268ff14@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502001058.GA14360@wolff.to>
	<431afed80905011736j5697b137xf9cec970ba6da68f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241225495.3499.6.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 20:36 -0400, cmdrUNIX wrote:
> OK I see your point that is is not 11 yet but the update did make it
> 10.93 so I think we need to sort this out cause now I am a bit
> confused now we have 10.92 rawhide, 10.93 Leonidas and soon 11
> Leonidas  and what is rawhide now ? 

10.93 is the preview (as well as what rawhide currently is), but the
name is what F11 will be, as they went ahead and gave it the name to get
ready for F11.

> So where are we suppsed to be doing updates from if we want to stay at
> 11 and not go past it to the New rawhide ? I mean if the new rpm
> installed fedora.repo then shouldn't we be using it and not
> fedora-rawhide. Have I just confused myself through this release
> period ? :-) 

You need to keep rawhide enabled (and fedora.repo disabled, as there
isn't yet an updates and/or testing dir to get updates from anyway) and
get updates from there, as rawhide is still ongoing to prepare/create
F11 when the time is right. The engineering folks (Jesse mainly I
assume) will let us know when rawhide will start developing for F12 and
F11 is composed and no longer rawhide.


-- 
Mike Chambers
Madisonville, KY

Fedora Project - Bugzapper, Tester, User, etc..
miketc302 at fedoraproject.org



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Sat May  2 01:41:38 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:41:38 -0700
Subject: GRAMPS Genealogy Software problem ???
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905011841r3c3863c1m895470097cfbeb3a@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

Just a little background on this problem ...  I have a fresh install of
Fedora 11 Preview, and it is fully updated to today, 20090501!  This is the
first time that I have had problems with Fedora 11 from its' alpha release.
If all that I do, is open the software and do nothing, then I can re-open it
all  from command line.  It seems as once the software creates its own files
and directories, it is then that I can't re-open the software from the
terminal.

This is such a wild experience.  I  do not understand what is going on?  I
also have the bug report that I get once the crash happens if someone can
read it and tell me what is going on???

I am a contributor with the Gramps genealogy program, so I need to be able
to see what the errors are and I need to be able to run it from terminal ...

Prior to three days ago, I was able to use the current codebase from gramps
trunk/ unstable code ...

This is what I had tried and done today:

I checked out the current svn of gramps trunk codebase...

ran autogen.sh
make

then tried python ~/gramps32/src/gramps.py, which is the current recommended
way to start using the trunk code...

>From a fresh checkout, I can open the software, set preferences, import my
database, set my gramplets, etc...

Close the software, try to open it again, Gramps dump report...

so next, I l changed to root, and typed make install which, of course, is
something that you are suggested not to do!  I take the risk and assume my
own stupidity if there is any...

Go to Applications, Office, GRAMPS Genealogy, and I can open the software.
It all works...

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem is that I get no debugging information on the terminal screen,
which is how I can check and validate my code changes!  I do not understand
it at all...

Please help if you can?

Sincerely,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090501/f7947de8/attachment.htm>

From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Sat May  2 02:20:41 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:20:41 -0700
Subject: *netinst.iso
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905011920o45cdad72leb87d3812171777a@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

I have never use or tried to use the netinst.iso cd to load my computer.  I
was wondering if it will load from a wireless usb key as its connection to
the internet???

Sincerely Yours,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090501/bbf0fa44/attachment.htm>

From adrin.jalali at gmail.com  Sat May  2 08:36:38 2009
From: adrin.jalali at gmail.com (Adrin Jalali)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:06:38 +0430
Subject: copy paste problem.
Message-ID: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there,
I remember a copy paste problem which was (I think at least) solved, but I
can see it again using rawhide. When you copy something in an application,
by the time you close that application it's being erased from the clipboard.
So you should keep the source application open till you paste that somewhere
else.

Is it supposed to be normal behavior?

Best,
Adrin.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090502/ef478a82/attachment.htm>

From beland at alum.mit.edu  Sat May  2 11:38:03 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 07:38:03 -0400
Subject: GRAMPS Genealogy Software problem ???
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10905011841r3c3863c1m895470097cfbeb3a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905011841r3c3863c1m895470097cfbeb3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241264284.2744.51.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 18:41 -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
> Go to Applications, Office, GRAMPS Genealogy, and I can open the
> software.  It all works...
>
> The problem is that I get no debugging information on the terminal
> screen, which is how I can check and validate my code changes!  I do
> not understand it at all...

Does the output you need get sent to ~/.xsession-errors ?

-B.



From fedora.wagnerm at arcor.de  Sat May  2 12:31:14 2009
From: fedora.wagnerm at arcor.de (Michael Wagner)
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 14:31:14 +0200
Subject: PolicyKit.IsProcessAuthorized
Message-ID: <49FC3D12.6010609@arcor.de>

Dear List,

it seems as if selinux intercepts dbus calls to policykit:


getenforce ->  Enforcing:

dbus-send --system --dest=org.freedesktop.PolicyKit --print-reply /
org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.IsProcessAuthorized
string:org.freedesktop.policykit.read uint32:$$ boolean:true
Error org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.GeneralError: Error getting information about
pid 3975: (null): (null)


getenforce ->  Permissive:

dbus-send --system --dest=org.freedesktop.PolicyKit --print-reply /
org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.IsProcessAuthorized
string:org.freedesktop.policykit.read uint32:$$ boolean:true
method return sender=:1.157 ->  dest=:1.156 reply_serial=2
    string "auth_admin_keep_always"


Is this behavior intentional?

Michael



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sat May  2 13:17:10 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat,  2 May 2009 13:17:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090502 changes
Message-ID: <20090502131710.6B5921F8205@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sat May  2 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sat May  2 13:38:53 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 09:38:53 -0400
Subject: RFC: Fedora 11 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>
References: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <49FC4CED.4050501@speakeasy.net>

I suggest adding a link to the latest version of the Fedora 11 
Installation Guide.

Bob


On 05/01/2009 05:35 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have posted a draft of the Fedora 11 FAQ at
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ
>
> Feel free to edit the wiki if you want to highlight anything else or
> drop me a mail and I will add them.
>
> Rahul
>
>    



From tom.horsley at att.net  Sat May  2 14:59:28 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 10:59:28 -0400
Subject: RFC: Fedora 11 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <49FC4CED.4050501@speakeasy.net>
References: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>
	<49FC4CED.4050501@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <20090502105928.6ad5d627@zooty>

I found the changes which totally emasculated lm_sensors to
be pretty confusing and they don't appear to be documented
anywhere other than replies to the lm_sensors bugzillas
which keep getting closed as NOTABUG, so no one finds them
when they look for bugs :-).

For example: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496355

Perhaps a mention in the FAQ or release notes would be
in order?



From usul80 at gmail.com  Sat May  2 16:13:37 2009
From: usul80 at gmail.com (E.B. A.)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 11:13:37 -0500
Subject: F11 Preview : everything OK but Virtualbox
Message-ID: <a1d3651e0905020913h450175dbi3416378a56389927@mail.gmail.com>

Guys,
 everything works fine now (thanks to some of you) except for Virtualbox:
- Skype works great, Audio and Webcam are working. I needed to do some
tricks but the final result is good.
- nVidia drivers are ok.
- Compiz (in gnome) is impressive, fast and reliable.
- openOffice, KDE ecc. work ok. I have to say that KDE is not really usable
in my opinion, but most probably it's just me not used to it.
- User admin, file admin etc is ok, for what I can tell.
- I never had any serious problem. Somehow after I installed the nVidia
drivers the reboot started to work and does not hang up anymore.

My only problem is VirtualBox. Whenever I try to run a new virtual session,
somehow, it just stop working. I installed the dkms but somehow it doesn't
work. Still, I think it's because of something I do, I haven't really done
any troubleshoot.

Overall, I would definitely suggest to move to Fedora 11.

Thanks,
Enrico Accenti
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090502/cd3a480f/attachment.htm>

From updates at fedoraproject.org  Sat May  2 16:43:25 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 16:43:25 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090502164325.C276E10F8EC@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    PyQwt-5.1.0-4.fc9
    R-Biobase-2.4.0-2.fc9
    R-BufferedMatrix-1.8.0-1.fc9
    R-DynDoc-1.22.0-1.fc9
    R-GeneR-2.14.0-2.fc9
    R-IRanges-1.2.0-2.fc9
    R-affyio-1.12.0-2.fc9
    R-multtest-2.0.0-1.fc9
    R-qvalue-1.18.0-1.fc9
    R-tkWidgets-1.22.0-1.fc9
    R-widgetTools-1.22.0-1.fc9
    clamav-0.93.3-3.fc9
    collectl-3.3.2-1.fc9
    etoys-4.0.2206-3.fc9
    gajim-0.12.1-3.fc9
    igraph-0.5.2-1.fc9
    incollector-1.0-7.fc9.1
    jnettop-0.13.0-5.fc9
    lxsession-lite-0.3.6-5.fc9
    merkaartor-0.13.2-2.fc9
    php-ezc-Cache-1.4-1.fc9
    php-ezc-Mail-1.6.1-3.fc9
    php-ezc-PersistentObject-1.5.1-1.fc9
    php-ezc-SystemInformation-1.0.7-1.fc9
    php-ezc-Template-1.3.2-1.fc9
    powwow-1.2.15-1.fc9
    samba-3.2.11-0.29.fc9
    slapi-nis-0.13-1.fc9
    squeak-image-3.10.2.7179-1.fc9
    squeak-vm-3.10.4-3.fc9
    testdisk-6.11-2.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 PyQwt-5.1.0-4.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4112)
 Python bindings for Qwt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Rebuild for new qwt. PyQwt is a set of Python bindings for the Qwt C++ class
library which extends the Qt framework with widgets for scientific and
engineering applications. It provides a widget to plot 2-dimensional data and
various widgets to display and control bounded or unbounded floating point
values.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #472229 - Review Request: PyQwt - Python bindings for Qwt
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472229
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-Biobase-2.4.0-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4147)
 Base functions for Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to Bioconductor 2.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 2.4.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 2.2.2-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-BufferedMatrix-1.8.0-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4147)
 A matrix data storage object method from bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to Bioconductor 2.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.8.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-DynDoc-1.22.0-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4147)
 Functions for dynamic documents
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to Bioconductor 2.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.22.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.20.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-GeneR-2.14.0-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4147)
 R for genes and sequences analysis
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to Bioconductor 2.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 2.14.0-2
- Does not apply the patch made for F-11
* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 2.14.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 2.13.1-2
- Fix FTBFS: added R-GeneR-gcc44.patch.
- Do not override the release macro.
- Use %global instead of %define.
* Tue Mar 31 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 2.13.1-1
- Update to 2.13.1 from the devel version of bioconductor
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 2.12.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-IRanges-1.2.0-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4147)
 Low-level containers for storing sets of integer ranges
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to Bioconductor 2.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.2.0-2
- Update the file section to package doc
- Update the Requires and BR to take into account R version
* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.2.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-affyio-1.12.0-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4147)
 Tools for parsing Affymetrix data files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to Bioconductor 2.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 1.12.0-2
- version 1.20.0 != 1.12.0
* Wed Apr 29 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 1.12.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R 2.9.0
- Add requires to R-methods
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.10.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-multtest-2.0.0-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4147)
 Multiple hypothesis testing library from Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to Bioconductor 2.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 2.0.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
- Use global instead of define
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.22.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-qvalue-1.18.0-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4147)
 Q-value estimation for false discovery rate control
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to Bioconductor 2.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 1.18.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R 2.9.0
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.16.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-tkWidgets-1.22.0-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4147)
 Widgets to provide user interfaces from bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to Bioconductor 2.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.22.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
- Uses global instead of define
- Change the license from LGPLv2+ to Artistic 2.0
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.20.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-widgetTools-1.22.0-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4147)
 Bioconductor tools to support tcltk widgets
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to Bioconductor 2.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.22.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.18.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 clamav-0.93.3-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4202)
 End-user tools for the Clam Antivirus scanner
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Here is where you give an explanation of your update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 22 2009 Enrico Scholz <enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> - 0.93.3-3
- added -nooutdate patch to avoid the 'has connected too many times
  with an outdated version' on freshclam invocation. Because clamav is
  buggy like hell and full with security leaks, the database upgrade
  must not be skipped as broken modules are disabled by it too.

  The patch itself is probably required due to a bug in freshclam:
  this message should never be triggered when 'freshclam' is invoked
  in non-daemon mode (e.g. manually or as a cron-job).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496926 - Virus database not updated due to an outdated clamav version
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496926
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 collectl-3.3.2-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4179)
 A utility to collect various linux performance data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- upgrade to upstream version 3.3.2 - changelog:
http://collectl.sourceforge.net/Releases.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> 3.3.2-1
- upgrade to upstream version 3.3.2
- install missing file
- changelog: http://collectl.sourceforge.net/Releases.html
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> 3.3.1-1
- upgrade to upstream version 3.3.1
- changelog: http://collectl.sourceforge.net/Releases.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 etoys-4.0.2206-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4091)
 A media-rich model, game, and simulation construction kit and authoring tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gajim-0.12.1-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4170)
 Jabber client written in PyGTK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sat May 02 2009 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 0.12.1-3  - Added
'Requires: gnome-python2-bonobo'. (Red Hat Bugzilla #470181)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 0.12.1-3
- Added 'Requires: gnome-python2-bonobo'. (Red Hat Bugzilla #470181)
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Release Engineering <rel-eng at fedoraproject.org> - 0.12.1-2
- Autorebuild for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #470181 - Missing dependency gnome-python2-bonobo
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470181
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 igraph-0.5.2-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4123)
 Library for creating and manipulating graphs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

see: http://igraph.sourceforge.net/relnotes-0.5.2.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 27 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.5.2-1
- Update to 0.5.2
- Try not applying patch #3
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.5.1-6
- Make that 0.5.1-6
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.5.1-5
- Patch3 for gcc-4.4 (cstdio)
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.5.1-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Dec 22 2008 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.5.1-4
- Bump tag
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 incollector-1.0-7.fc9.1 (FEDORA-2009-4136)
 Information collector
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Added explicit Requires: mono-core (resolves BZ#469602).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 1.0-7
- Added explicit R: mono-core (resolves BZ#469602).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #469602 - dependencies don't pull in mono
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469602
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jnettop-0.13.0-5.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4190)
 Network traffic tracker
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

ncurses based network traffic tracker
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490872 - Review Request: jnettop - Network traffic tracker
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490872
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxsession-lite-0.3.6-5.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4140)
 Lightweight X11 session manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update enables user switching with gdm and fixes the icons in the logout
dialog.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 27 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.6-5
- Fix Session name (Andrew Lee)
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.6-4
- Support user switching also with newer gdm
- Add patch to fix icon search path (Marty Jack)
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.6-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 merkaartor-0.13.2-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4168)
 Qt-Based OpenStreetMap editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix segfault when run under gnome / qgtkstyle Bugfix update that makes
merkaartor work a lot better with the now default 0.6 OSM api and includes a
bugfix for intel graphics    This should be the final update for F-9    The
following bugfixes are included:      * FIX : Graphical corruption on Intel
chipsets when "Show downloaded areas" was enabled    * FIX : API 0.6: Fix info
dock links    * FIX : Problem with "center" & "center & zoom" from the
properties dock    * FIX : API 0.6: Error when deleting a road with no nodes
(fixes #1732)    * FIX : API 0.6: Do not add "created_by" to changed features
(fixes #1728)    * FIX : API 0.6: Allow to define a comment on a changeset
(fixes #1731)    * FIX : API 0.6 fixes    * FIX : Nodes fetched by relations are
incomplete and not completed by "download more" (fixes #1715)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Sven Lankes <sven at lank.es> - 0.13.2-2
- disable use of qgtkstyle until gdal conflict (bz# 498111) is solved
* Sun Apr 26 2009 Sven Lankes <sven at lank.es> - 0.13.2-1
- new upstream release
* Sat Apr  4 2009 Sven Lankes <sven at lank.es> - 0.13.1-1
- new upstream release
* Wed Oct 15 2008 Sven Lankes <sven at lank.es> - 0.12-2
- remove additional source merkaartor.xpm - now included
- minor update of .desktop-file
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Cache-1.4-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4160)
 Provides a collection of lightweight classes to cache different kinds of data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A solution for caching, supporting multiple backends allowing you to specify the
best performing solution for your caching-problem.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497735 - Review Request: php-ezc-Cache - eZ Components Cache
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497735
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Mail-1.6.1-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4089)
 Construct and/or parse Mail messages conforming to the mail standard
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The component allows you construct and/or parse Mail messages conforming to the
mail standard. It has support for attachments, multipart messages and HTML mail.
It also interfaces with SMTP to send mail or IMAP, POP3 or mbox to retrieve
e-mail.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497736 - Review Request: php-ezc-Mail - eZ Components Mail
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497736
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-PersistentObject-1.5.1-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4117)
 Allows you to store an arbitrary data structures to a fixed database table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This component allows you to store an arbitrary data structures to a fixed
database table. The component provides all the functionality needed to fetch,
list, delete etc these datastructures.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490592 - Review Request: php-ezc-PersistentObject - eZ Components PersistentObject
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490592
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-SystemInformation-1.0.7-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4181)
 Provides access to common system variables
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Provides access to common system variables, such as CPU type and speed, and the
available amount of memory.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490851 - Review Request: php-ezc-SystemInformation - eZ Components SystemInformation
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490851
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Template-1.3.2-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4178)
 A fully functional Templating system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A fully functional Templating system, supporting template compilation in
different levels, user defined functions and operators, an optimizer, output
escaping for different output handlers to prevent XSS and other security
problems and a plug in system for extra functionality (such as a Translation
system).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490591 - Review Request: php-ezc-Template - eZ Components Template
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490591
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 powwow-1.2.15-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4157)
 A console MUD client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Powwow is a powerful console MUD client that supports triggers, aliases,
multiple connections, and more. It is primarily designed for DikuMUDs, but
nothing prevents its use for other types of MUDs. This client is also
extensible through a plugin interface.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491566 - Review Request: powwow - A console MUD client
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491566
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 samba-3.2.11-0.29.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4101)
 The Samba Suite of programs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Guenther Deschner <gdeschner at redhat.com> - 3.2.11-0.29
- Fix "force user"
- resolves: #497708
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497708 - "force user" no longer works since 3.2.11-0.30.fc10
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497708
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 slapi-nis-0.13-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4169)
 NIS Server and Schema Compatibility plugins for Directory Server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update expands the functionality of the module by adding the ability to
recursively follow references through the directory, and corrects module bugs
which could lead to server crashes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.13-1
- update to 0.13, reworking %link() to correct some bugs (#498432)
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.12-1
- correct test suite failures that 0.11 started triggering
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.11-1
- update to 0.11 (#497904)
* Wed Mar  4 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.10-1
- update to 0.10
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.9-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497904 - Crash on first ypcat
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497904
  [ 2 ] Bug #498432 - deref_r can cause ns-slapd to crash
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498432
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 squeak-image-3.10.2.7179-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4193)
 The image files for Squeak
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 squeak-vm-3.10.4-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4144)
 The Squeak virtual machine
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 testdisk-6.11-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4204)
 Tool to check and undelete partition, PhotoRec recovers lost files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

TestDisk 6.11 can undelete files from NTFS partition and recover deleted exFAT.
Over 50 file types have been added to PhotoRec.  TestDisk & PhotoRec 6.11 are
faster than previous versions.  Read
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_6.11_Release for more information
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 24 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-2
- Add upstream patch that add missing bound checks when parsing EXIF information
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-1
- Update to latest version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494351 - RFE: Please add PhotoRec to the Summary and %description
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494351
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Sat May  2 16:43:26 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 16:43:26 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090502164326.13AA910F8EE@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    R-Biobase-2.4.0-2.fc10
    R-BufferedMatrix-1.8.0-1.fc10
    R-DynDoc-1.22.0-1.fc10
    R-GeneR-2.14.0-2.fc10
    R-IRanges-1.2.0-2.fc10
    R-affyio-1.12.0-2.fc10
    R-multtest-2.0.0-1.fc10
    R-qvalue-1.18.0-1.fc10
    R-tkWidgets-1.22.0-1.fc10
    R-widgetTools-1.22.0-1.fc10
    canto-0.6.9-2.fc10
    clamav-0.94.2-2.fc10
    cmake-2.6.4-1.fc10
    collectl-3.3.2-1.fc10
    dovecot-1.1.14-1.fc10
    eclipse-nls-3.4.0.v20090423085802-1.fc10
    etoys-4.0.2206-3.fc10
    fedora-ksplice-0.5-5.fc10
    fsarchiver-0.5.2-1.fc10
    gajim-0.12.1-3.fc10
    gnote-0.3.0-1.fc10
    guimup-0.1.4-6.b.fc10
    igraph-0.5.2-1.fc10
    incollector-1.0-7.fc10
    jnettop-0.13.0-5.fc10
    kernel-2.6.29.2-52.fc10
    libX11-1.1.5-4.fc10
    libmemcached-0.28-2.fc10
    lxde-settings-daemon-0.4-2.fc10
    lxinput-0.1-1.fc10
    lxmenu-data-0.1-2.fc10
    lxsession-lite-0.3.6-5.fc10
    lxshortcut-0.1-1.fc10
    memcached-1.2.8-1.fc10
    menu-cache-0.2.5-1.fc10
    pam_yubico-2.1-1.fc10
    perl-App-Daemon-0.06-1.fc10
    perl-Module-Used-1.2.0-1.fc10
    perl-Perl-Tags-0.26-1.fc10
    perl-String-Diff-0.04-2.fc10
    php-ezc-Cache-1.4-1.fc10
    php-ezc-Mail-1.6.1-3.fc10
    php-ezc-PersistentObject-1.5.1-1.fc10
    php-ezc-SystemInformation-1.0.7-1.fc10
    php-ezc-Template-1.3.2-1.fc10
    powwow-1.2.15-1.fc10
    preupgrade-1.1.0-0.pre2.fc10
    python-pp-1.5.7-2.fc10
    python-virtualenv-1.3.3-1.fc10
    qucs-0.0.15-1.fc10
    razertool-0.0.7-5.fc10
    rubygem-RedCloth-4.1.9-4.fc10
    rubygem-rufus-scheduler-1.0.13-3.fc10
    rubygem-rufus-scheduler-1.0.14-1.fc10
    samba-3.2.11-0.31.fc10
    selinux-policy-3.5.13-58.fc10
    slapi-nis-0.13-1.fc10
    squeak-image-3.10.2.7179-1.fc10
    squeak-vm-3.10.4-3.fc10
    testdisk-6.11-2.fc10
    xkeyboard-config-1.4-8.fc10
    ykclient-2.2-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 R-Biobase-2.4.0-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4191)
 Base functions for Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 2.4 of Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 2.4.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 2.2.2-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-BufferedMatrix-1.8.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4191)
 A matrix data storage object method from bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 2.4 of Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.8.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-DynDoc-1.22.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4191)
 Functions for dynamic documents
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 2.4 of Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.22.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.20.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-GeneR-2.14.0-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4191)
 R for genes and sequences analysis
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 2.4 of Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 2.14.0-2
- Does not apply the patch made for F-11
* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 2.14.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 2.13.1-2
- Fix FTBFS: added R-GeneR-gcc44.patch.
- Do not override the release macro.
- Use %global instead of %define.
* Tue Mar 31 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 2.13.1-1
- Update to 2.13.1 from the devel version of bioconductor
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 2.12.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-IRanges-1.2.0-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4191)
 Low-level containers for storing sets of integer ranges
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 2.4 of Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.2.0-2
- Update the file section to package doc
- Update the Requires and BR to take into account R version
* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.2.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-affyio-1.12.0-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4191)
 Tools for parsing Affymetrix data files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 2.4 of Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 1.12.0-2
- version 1.20.0 != 1.12.0
* Wed Apr 29 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 1.12.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R 2.9.0
- Add requires to R-methods
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.10.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-multtest-2.0.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4191)
 Multiple hypothesis testing library from Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 2.4 of Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 2.0.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
- Use global instead of define
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.22.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-qvalue-1.18.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4191)
 Q-value estimation for false discovery rate control
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 2.4 of Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 1.18.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R 2.9.0
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.16.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-tkWidgets-1.22.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4191)
 Widgets to provide user interfaces from bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 2.4 of Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.22.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
- Uses global instead of define
- Change the license from LGPLv2+ to Artistic 2.0
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.20.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-widgetTools-1.22.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4191)
 Bioconductor tools to support tcltk widgets
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 2.4 of Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.22.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.18.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 canto-0.6.9-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4129)
 Atom/RSS feed reader based on ncurses
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First successful build for F10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 clamav-0.94.2-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4133)
 End-user tools for the Clam Antivirus scanner
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 22 2009 Enrico Scholz <enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> - 0.94.2-2
- added -nooutdate patch to avoid the 'has connected too many times
  with an outdated version' on freshclam invocation. Because clamav is
  buggy like hell and full with security leaks, the database upgrade
  must not be skipped as broken modules are disabled by it too.

  The patch itself is probably required due to a bug in freshclam:
  this message should never be triggered when 'freshclam' is invoked
  in non-daemon mode (e.g. manually or as a cron-job).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496926 - Virus database not updated due to an outdated clamav version
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496926
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cmake-2.6.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4135)
 Cross-platform make system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 2.6.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 2.6.4-1
- Update to 2.6.4
- Drop patch for bug #475876 fixed upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 collectl-3.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4148)
 A utility to collect various linux performance data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- upgrade to upstream version 3.3.2 - changelog:
http://collectl.sourceforge.net/Releases.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> 3.3.2-1
- upgrade to upstream version 3.3.2
- install missing file
- changelog: http://collectl.sourceforge.net/Releases.html
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> 3.3.1-1
- upgrade to upstream version 3.3.1
- changelog: http://collectl.sourceforge.net/Releases.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dovecot-1.1.14-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4141)
 Dovecot Secure imap server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Feb 11 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> - 1:1.1.14-1
- updated to 1.1.14
* Wed Feb 11 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> - 1:1.1.11-1
- updated to 1.1.11
- IMAP: PERMANENTFLAGS list didn't contain \*, causing some clients
  not to save keywords.
- auth: Using "username" or "domain" passdb fields caused problems
  with cache and blocking passdbs in v1.1.8 .. v1.1.10.
- userdb prefetch + blocking passdbs was broken with non-plaintext
  auth in v1.1.8 .. v1.1.10.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498105 - Update dovecot to 1.1.14
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498105
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 eclipse-nls-3.4.0.v20090423085802-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4201)
 Babel language packs for the Eclipse platform and various plugins
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updated to more recent Babel translations to fix problem found in 'de' langpack.
Replacing earlier bugfix since much more recent translations became available
from upstream. Updated to more recent Babel translations to fix problem found in
'de' langpack.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Sean Flanigan <sflaniga at redhat.com> - 3.4.0.v20090423085802-1
- Upstream langpack have working downloads again - updated to latest version
- Added subpackages for en_AU, et, hi and mn langpacks
- Changed filenames back to newer format (as in rawhide spec)
- Made base package eclipse-nls owner of babel dropins directories
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Sean Flanigan <sflaniga at redhat.com> - 3.4.0.v20081026043401-1
- Backported from rawhide spec (3.5.0.v20090417091040-1), changed filenames
 to suit older langpacks
- Updated to use Babel's zipped langpacks instead of fetch-babel.sh
- Changed versioning scheme to match changes in upstream versioning
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.0-0.6.20080807snap
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497153 - eclipse-nls-de breaks jface
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497153
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 etoys-4.0.2206-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4174)
 A media-rich model, game, and simulation construction kit and authoring tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fedora-ksplice-0.5-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4102)
 Script Collection for Using KSplice on Fedora Linux
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix dependency issue for ppc64 and ppc
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> - 0.5-5
- Build only for x86_64 and %{ix86}
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 0.5-4
- Exclude ppc64 and ppc as Architetures
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> 0.5-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fsarchiver-0.5.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4114)
 Safe and flexible file-system backup/deployment tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream version:    # 0.5.2 (2009-04-27):        * Copy the
contents of /dev/ during a live-backup (option -A used) else /dev/console
missing at reboot      * Bug fix: archive corruption when a file attribute was
empty (eg: "user.encryptable" on ntfs may be empty)     # 0.5.1 (2009-04-19):
* Option -o (overwrite) was broken when the archive already exists (introduced
in 0.5.0)      * Better management of errors (no space left on device) when an
archive is extracted      * Fixed errors in fsaprintf arguments thanks to
__attribute__ ((format (printf, x, y)));      * Print statistics about success
and errors at the end of an operation     # 0.5.0 (2009-04-18):        * Final
archive file format is now used (it's compatible with fsarchiver >= 0.4.4)
* Bug fix: archive extraction was hanging when there was an early error
(incorrect command line)     # 0.4.8 (2009-04-14):        * Fixed compilation
errors when fsarchiver is configured with --disable-crypto      * Fixed problems
when attributes stored in dico are empty     # 0.4.7 (2009-03-29):        * The
mount-points directories are now archived during a live-backup (important for
/dev, /proc, /sys)      * Better management of corrupt archive files: allow to
continue the restoration on the next valid file found      * Bug fix: Ignore
devices that are cached by blkid in "fsarchive probe" (cdrom devices that do not
exist were shown)      * Bug fix: "fsarchiver probe" detected ext4 filesystem as
ext3 when libblkid < 1.41 (it's part of e2fsprogs)      * Bug fix: Fixed minor
memory leak in "fsarchiver probe" by calling blkid_put_cache() to free the
dynamic memory      * Bug fix: Fixed memory error (invalid free) when a corrupt
data block is found in the archive (bad checksum)      * Bug fix: Show and error
message and exit instead of waiting when the required fstools are not installed
* Bug fix: fixed potential crash in thread_comp when aborting a restoration
process because of an error
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  1 2009 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> - 0.5.2-1
- Update to 0.5.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gajim-0.12.1-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4183)
 Jabber client written in PyGTK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sat May 02 2009 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 0.12.1-3  - Added
'Requires: gnome-python2-bonobo'. (Red Hat Bugzilla #470181)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 0.12.1-3
- Added 'Requires: gnome-python2-bonobo'. (Red Hat Bugzilla #470181)
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Release Engineering <rel-eng at fedoraproject.org> - 0.12.1-2
- Autorebuild for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #470181 - Missing dependency gnome-python2-bonobo
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470181
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnote-0.3.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4209)
 Note-taking application
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

new upstream release. Includes a GNOME applet and many addition plugins
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  1 2009 Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.0-1
- new upstream release. Includes applet and more plugins.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 guimup-0.1.4-6.b.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4108)
 A GTKmm based drag-&-drop oriented client for MPD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First F10 import for guimup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 igraph-0.5.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4153)
 Library for creating and manipulating graphs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

see: http://igraph.sourceforge.net/relnotes-0.5.2.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 27 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.5.2-1
- Update to 0.5.2
- Try not applying patch #3
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.5.1-6
- Make that 0.5.1-6
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.5.1-5
- Patch3 for gcc-4.4 (cstdio)
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.5.1-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 incollector-1.0-7.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4171)
 Information collector
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Added explicit Requires: mono-core (resolves BZ#469602).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 1.0-7
- Added explicit R: mono-core (resolves BZ#469602).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #469602 - dependencies don't pull in mono
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469602
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jnettop-0.13.0-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4186)
 Network traffic tracker
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

ncurses based network traffic tracker
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490872 - Review Request: jnettop - Network traffic tracker
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490872
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kernel-2.6.29.2-52.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4132)
 The Linux kernel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to kernel 2.6.29.2:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.1
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.2    Fixes these
problems in earlier 2.6.29 kernels:     - hang on boot with HPET timer     -
bluetooth OBEX protocol failure     - more DRM bugs     - wireless adapter
losing beacon after scan    Includes audio driver quirk updates from 2.6.30.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-52
- Fix possible FPU context corruption on x86-64.
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-51
- Fix HPET hang at boot on AMD 81xx, caused by backported 2.6.30 HPET fixes.
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-50
- Linux 2.6.29.2
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-49.rc1
- Fix hang with HPET timer at boot (F11#497351)
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-48.rc1
- Revert 2.6.29.2-rc1 patch that won't be in the final release.
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-47.rc1
- Drop POSIX timer patch accidentally committed in 2.6.30.
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-46.rc1
- Add missed patch for fixing VIA Padlock driver autoload.
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-45.rc1
- drm-backport-f11-fixes-1.patch
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-44.rc1
- 2.6.29.2-rc1
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-43
- Remove bluetooth updates that broke OBEX.
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-42
- Fix loss of link on resume from hibernate with forcdeth adapter (reported in Bodhi)
* Wed Apr 22 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-41
- back-port mac80211: fix beacon loss detection after scan
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-40
- Add 2.6.29.2 patch queue (as git-linus.diff)
- Drop queued patches:
    linux-2.6-acer-wmi-bail-on-aao.patch
    linux-2.6-md-raid1-dont-assume-new-bvecs-are-init.patch
    linux-2.6-mm-define-unique-value-for-as_unevictable.patch
    linux-2.6-posix-timers-fix-clock-monotonicity.patch
    linux-2.6-posix-timers-fix-rlimit_cpu-fork-2.patch
    linux-2.6-posix-timers-fix-rlimit_cpu-setitimer.patch
    linux-2.6-net-fix-another-gro-bug.patch
    linux-2.6-kvm-kconfig-irqchip.patch
    linux-2.6-kvm-mask-notifiers.patch
    linux-2.6-kvm-reset-pit-irq-on-unmask.patch
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-39
- Don't include the modules.*.bin files in the RPM package.
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Neil Horman <nhorman at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-38
- Reduce ftrace memory usage at boot (bz 481448)
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-37
- Fix VIA Padlock autoload (#496140)
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-36
- git-bluetooth2.patch: Bluetooth fixes from F-11.
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-35
- Copy Xen and KVM fixes from Fedora 11:
    Fix xen boot on machines without NX support (F11#492523)
    Skip PIT-through-IOAPIC routing check on KVM guests.
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-34
- Build in the rfkill and rfkill-input modules (#485322)
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-33
- Set CONFIG_UEVENT_HELPER_PATH to the empty string (#496296)
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>> 2.6.29.1-32
- Copy ALSA quirk updates from Fedora 11
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>> 2.6.29.1-31
- Copy kvm fixes for bz#491625 and missed networking fix from F11 kernel
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-30
- Add missing patch for broken RLIMIT_CPU
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-28
- Fix warnings/errors in USB cdc-acm modem driver (F11#495446)
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-27
- Timer fixes headed for -stable
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-26
- Fix duplicated flag value in pagemap.h (-stable patch)
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-25
- Blacklist acer-wmi on the AAO to fix rfkill switch problems
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-24
- radeon: add some more kms fixes backported from F11
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-23
- Fix oops in md raid1 resync (F11#495550)
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-22
- Copy ALSA pulseaudio fixes from F-11.
* Mon Apr 13 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com>  2.6.29.1-21
- Remove iwl3945: rely on priv->lock to protect priv access
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-20
- Copy Intel iommu fixes, backported from 2.6.30, from F-11 kernel.
* Thu Apr  9 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-18
- Only print ext4 allocator fallback warning once.
* Tue Apr  7 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com>
- linux-2.6-v4l-dvb-fix-uint16_t-audio-h.patch (#493053)
* Mon Apr  6 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com>
- add git-bluetooth.patch from F-11, bluetooth fixes from 2.6.30
* Fri Apr  3 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com>
- add backwards drm compat for radeon kms
* Thu Apr  2 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-14
- Linux 2.6.29.1
- Dropped patches, merged upstream:
    linux-2.6-net-fix-gro-bug.patch
    linux-2.6-net-xfrm-fix-spin-unlock.patch
    linux-2.6-vm-x86-pat-fix-warnings.patch
    linux-2.6.29-pat-pci-change-prot-for-inherit.patch
    linux-2.6-fuse-fix-lseek-return-with-lock-held.patch
* Thu Apr  2 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com>  2.6.29-13
- back-port iwlwifi rfkill while device down patches
- iwl3945: rely on priv->lock to protect priv access
* Mon Mar 30 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-12
- x86 PCI/PAT fix headed for -stable: inherit protections on mmap.
- FUSE patch headed for -stable: don't return to user with lock held.
* Mon Mar 30 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-11
- Make the .shared-srctree file a list so more than two checkouts
  can share source files.
* Fri Mar 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-10
- Change kjournald to real-time priority to avoid stalls in ext3.
* Fri Mar 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-9
- Copy btrfs update from F11.
* Fri Mar 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-8
- Fix 2.6.29 networking lockups.
* Thu Mar 26 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-7
- Fix locking in net/xfrm/xfrm_state.c (f11#489764)
* Thu Mar 26 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-6
- Add upstream relatime patches but don't make relatime the default.
* Wed Mar 25 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-5
- Copy alsa-rewrite-hw_ptr-updaters.patch from F11:
  snd_pcm_update_hw_ptr() tries to detect the unexpected hwptr
  jumps more strictly to avoid the position mess-up, which often
  results in the bad quality I/O with pulseaudio.
* Wed Mar 25 2009 Neil Horman <nhorman at redhat.com>
- Adding netlink dropmonitor protocol bits from 2.6.30 net-next tree
* Tue Mar 24 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-3
- Fix up squashfs v3/v4 conflicts.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #481448 - kernel eats a lot of memory
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481448
  [ 2 ] Bug #496140 - no autoload of padlock modules
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496140
  [ 3 ] Bug #485322 - rfkill - inadequate state for eeepc and kernels below 2.6.29-0.22.rc4.git1.fc10
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485322
  [ 4 ] Bug #497526 - Attansic NIC driver disconnects/reconnects with network
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497526
  [ 5 ] Bug #496964 - forcedeth no longer works after resume from S4 with 2.6.29.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496964
  [ 6 ] Bug #489821 - Kernel BUGs in i915_driver_irq_handler
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489821
  [ 7 ] Bug #485734 - intel-hda: snd_pcm_avail() overflows
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485734
  [ 8 ] Bug #495172 - Kernel panics when connected to wireless
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495172
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libX11-1.1.5-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4165)
 X.Org X11 libX11 runtime library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Add nn_NO.UTF-8 to libX11's compose.dir.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.1.5-4
- libX11-1.1.5-nn_NO.patch: add nn_NO.UTF-8  to compose.dir (#493556)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #493556 - Deadkeys in Norwegian Nynorsk language setting (kde) doesn't work properly.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493556
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libmemcached-0.28-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4126)
 Client library and command line tools for memcached server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

libmemcached is a C client library to the memcached server
(http://danga.com/memcached). It has been designed to be light on memory usage,
and provide full access to server side methods.    It also implements several
command line tools:    memcat - Copy the value of a key to standard output.
memflush - Flush the contents of your servers.  memrm - Remove a key(s) from the
server.  memstat - Dump the stats of your servers to standard output.  memslap -
Generate testing loads on a memcached cluster.  memcp - Copy files to memcached
servers.  memerror - Creates human readable messages from libmemcached error
codes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497682 - Review Request: libmemcached - Client library and command line tools for memcached server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497682
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxde-settings-daemon-0.4-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4176)
 XSettings Daemon for LXDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This package contains the XSettings daemon for LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop
Environment. It allows XSettings aware applications (all GTK+ 2 and GNOME 2
applications) to be informed instantly of changes in LXDE configuration, such as
theme name, default font and so on.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498125 - Review Request: lxde-settings-daemon - XSettings Daemon for LXDE
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498125
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxinput-0.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4120)
 Keyboard and mouse settings dialog for LXDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

LXInput is a keyboard and mouse configuration utility for LXDE, the Lightweight
X11 Desktop Environment.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498130 - Review Request: lxinput - Keyboard and mouse settings dialog for LXDE
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498130
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxmenu-data-0.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4154)
 Data files for the LXDE menu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The lxmenu-data package contains files used to build the menu in LXDE according
to the freedesktop-org menu spec. Currently it's used by LXPanel and LXLauncher.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #487973 - Review Request: lxmenu-data - Data files for the LXDE menu
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487973
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxsession-lite-0.3.6-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4121)
 Lightweight X11 session manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update enables user switching with gdm and fixes the icons in the logout
dialog.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 27 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.6-5
- Fix Session name (Andrew Lee)
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.6-4
- Support user switching also with newer gdm
- Add patch to fix icon search path (Marty Jack)
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.6-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxshortcut-0.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4198)
 Small utility to edit application shortcuts
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

LXShortcut is a small utility to edit application shortcuts created with
freedesktop.org Desktop Entry spec.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498492 - Review Request: lxshortcut - Small utility to edit application shortcuts
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498492
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 memcached-1.2.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4199)
 High Performance, Distributed Memory Object Cache
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Paul Lindner <lindner at inuus.com> - 1.2.8-1
- Upgrade to memcached-1.2.8
- Addresses CVE-2009-1255
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.2.6-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Jul 29 2008 Paul Lindner <lindner at inuus.com> - 1.2.6-1
- Upgrade to memcached-1.2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498271 - CVE-2009-1255 memcached: ASLR bypass weakness
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498271
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 menu-cache-0.2.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4207)
 Caching mechanism for freedesktop.org compliant menus
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version 0.2.5 that makes menu-cached more reliable and moves the
executables from /usr/bin to /usr/libexec.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.5-1
- Update to 0.2.5
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.4-1
- Update to 0.2.4
* Tue Mar 31 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.3-1
- Update to 0.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pam_yubico-2.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4109)
 A Pluggable Authentication Module for yubikeys
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of pam_yubikey for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498277 - Review Request: pam_yubico - A Pluggable Authentication Module for yubikeys
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498277
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-App-Daemon-0.06-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4177)
 Start an Application as a Daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497634 - Review Request: perl-App-Daemon - Start an Application as a Daemon
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497634
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Module-Used-1.2.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4213)
 Find modules loaded by Perl code without running it
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498220 - Review Request: perl-Module-Used - Find modules loaded by Perl code without running it
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498220
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Perl-Tags-0.26-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4205)
 Generate Ctags style tags for Perl sourcecode
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498216 - Review Request: perl-Perl-Tags - Generate Ctags style tags for Perl sourcecode
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498216
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-String-Diff-0.04-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4092)
 Simple diff to String
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497980 - Review Request: perl-String-Diff - Simple diff to String
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497980
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Cache-1.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4215)
 Provides a collection of lightweight classes to cache different kinds of data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A solution for caching, supporting multiple backends allowing you to specify the
best performing solution for your caching-problem.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497735 - Review Request: php-ezc-Cache - eZ Components Cache
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497735
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Mail-1.6.1-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4189)
 Construct and/or parse Mail messages conforming to the mail standard
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The component allows you construct and/or parse Mail messages conforming to the
mail standard. It has support for attachments, multipart messages and HTML mail.
It also interfaces with SMTP to send mail or IMAP, POP3 or mbox to retrieve
e-mail.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497736 - Review Request: php-ezc-Mail - eZ Components Mail
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497736
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-PersistentObject-1.5.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4125)
 Allows you to store an arbitrary data structures to a fixed database table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This component allows you to store an arbitrary data structures to a fixed
database table. The component provides all the functionality needed to fetch,
list, delete etc these datastructures.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490592 - Review Request: php-ezc-PersistentObject - eZ Components PersistentObject
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490592
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-SystemInformation-1.0.7-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4104)
 Provides access to common system variables
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Provides access to common system variables, such as CPU type and speed, and the
available amount of memory.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490851 - Review Request: php-ezc-SystemInformation - eZ Components SystemInformation
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490851
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Template-1.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4195)
 A fully functional Templating system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A fully functional Templating system, supporting template compilation in
different levels, user defined functions and operators, an optimizer, output
escaping for different output handlers to prevent XSS and other security
problems and a plug in system for extra functionality (such as a Translation
system).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490591 - Review Request: php-ezc-Template - eZ Components Template
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490591
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 powwow-1.2.15-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4103)
 A console MUD client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Powwow is a powerful console MUD client that supports triggers, aliases,
multiple connections, and more. It is primarily designed for DikuMUDs, but
nothing prevents its use for other types of MUDs. This client is also
extensible through a plugin interface.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491566 - Review Request: powwow - A console MUD client
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491566
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 preupgrade-1.1.0-0.pre2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4211)
 Prepares a system for an upgrade
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Known issues:  - Will not work with /boot on mdraid, but the code doesn't
properly check for that  - Cannot upgrade to F11 Beta or earlier. This is
intentional.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 22 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-0.pre2
- Disable bootloader installation (bug 496952)
- Fix handling of releases.txt to accept Rawhide again
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-0.pre1
- Try to get new packages for *all* repos, including updates (bug 473966)
- Fix UnicodeDecodeError downloading packages (bug 476862)
- Fix traceback if network isn't up at startup (bug 474177)
- Specify which system to upgrade in kickstart (bug 473016)
- Fix traceback with certain mirrors (bug 487743)
- Fix problems with "excludes=" in yum.conf (bug 491577)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491577 - preupgrade: Cannot upgrade release with 'exclude=' entries in /etc/yum.conf
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491577
  [ 2 ] Bug #487743 - Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 preupgrade 'content-length' problem
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487743
  [ 3 ] Bug #473016 - Preupgrade to F10 (with multiple Fedora partitions) gives "Unable to read package metadata" error on reboot
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473016
  [ 4 ] Bug #474177 - Traceback if run when network down; no UI
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474177
  [ 5 ] Bug #476862 - preupgrade f10->rawhide fails with UnicodeDecodeError on libXdamage
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476862
  [ 6 ] Bug #473966 - RfE: Preupgrade should downloading new distributation with updates
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473966
  [ 7 ] Bug #496952 - preupgrade overwrite MBR instead of first partition on HDD
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496952
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-pp-1.5.7-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4100)
 Parallel execution of python on smp
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner <me at stevemilner.org> - 1.5.7-2
- Including new dependency and docs
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner <me at stevemilner.org> - 1.5.7-1
- Updated to upstream latest stable.
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.5.6-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 1.5.6-2
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-virtualenv-1.3.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4161)
 Tool to create isolated Python environments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner <me at stevemilner.org> - 1.3.3-1
- Updated for upstream release.
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.2-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qucs-0.0.15-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4094)
 Circuit simulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  1 2009 Eric Tanguy <eric.tanguy at univ-nantes.fr> - 0.0.15-1
- Update to 0.0.15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 razertool-0.0.7-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4098)
 Tool for controlling Razer Copperhead(TM) mice
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First successful build for F-10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492479 - Review Request: razertool - Tool for controlling Razer Copperhead mice
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492479
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-RedCloth-4.1.9-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4116)
 Textile parser for Ruby
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First official build for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-rufus-scheduler-1.0.13-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4142)
 Scheduler for Ruby (at, cron and every jobs)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First official build of rubygem-rufus-scheduler.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-rufus-scheduler-1.0.14-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4184)
 Scheduler for Ruby (at, cron and every jobs)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Release 1.0.14 of Rufus Scheduler.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 samba-3.2.11-0.31.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4216)
 The Samba Suite of programs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Guenther Deschner <gdeschner at redhat.com> - 3.2.11-0.31
- Fix "force user"
- resolves: #497708
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497708 - "force user" no longer works since 3.2.11-0.30.fc10
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497708
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 selinux-policy-3.5.13-58.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4095)
 SELinux policy configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Allow nfs to share removable media
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 24 2009 Miroslav Grepl <mgrepl at redhat.com> 3.5.13-58
- Allow nfs to share removable media
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 slapi-nis-0.13-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4107)
 NIS Server and Schema Compatibility plugins for Directory Server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update expands the functionality of the module by adding the ability to
recursively follow references through the directory, and corrects module bugs
which could lead to server crashes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.13-1
- update to 0.13, reworking %link() to correct some bugs (#498432)
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.12-1
- correct test suite failures that 0.11 started triggering
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.11-1
- update to 0.11 (#497904)
* Wed Mar  4 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.10-1
- update to 0.10
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.9-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497904 - Crash on first ypcat
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497904
  [ 2 ] Bug #498432 - deref_r can cause ns-slapd to crash
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498432
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 squeak-image-3.10.2.7179-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4200)
 The image files for Squeak
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 squeak-vm-3.10.4-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4118)
 The Squeak virtual machine
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 testdisk-6.11-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4159)
 Tool to check and undelete partition, PhotoRec recovers lost files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

TestDisk 6.11 can undelete files from NTFS partition and recover deleted exFAT.
Over 50 file types have been added to PhotoRec.  TestDisk & PhotoRec 6.11 are
faster than previous versions.  Read
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_6.11_Release for more information
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 24 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-2
- Add upstream patch that add missing bound checks when parsing EXIF information
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-1
- Update to latest version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494351 - RFE: Please add PhotoRec to the Summary and %description
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494351
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xkeyboard-config-1.4-8.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4152)
 xkeyboard-config alternative xkb data files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Add LTSG mapping to 'se' symbol table.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> - 1.4-8
- xkeyboard-config-1.5-LTSG-se.patch: add LTSG to 'se'
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490484 - Pressing Alt -< does not give '|' (bar) as expected.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490484
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ykclient-2.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4149)
 Yubikey management library and client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of ykclient for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498276 - Review Request: ykclient - Yubikey management library and client
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498276
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From cra at WPI.EDU  Sat May  2 17:16:40 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:16:40 -0400
Subject: F11 Preview : everything OK but Virtualbox
In-Reply-To: <a1d3651e0905020913h450175dbi3416378a56389927@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1d3651e0905020913h450175dbi3416378a56389927@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090502171640.GA1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:13:37AM -0500, E.B. A. wrote:
> My only problem is VirtualBox. Whenever I try to run a new virtual session,
> somehow, it just stop working. I installed the dkms but somehow it doesn't
> work. Still, I think it's because of something I do, I haven't really done
> any troubleshoot.

I'm curious why you use VirtualBox instead of the built-in 
virtualization solution in Fedora, yum groupinstall Virtualization



From iarlyy at gmail.com  Sat May  2 18:23:55 2009
From: iarlyy at gmail.com (iarly selbir | ski0s)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:23:55 -0300
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
Message-ID: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, I installed F11 preview using DVD iso in my new laptop and I got two
problems:

1 - I get move the mouse pointer using touch area, but I the click function
isn't working, I already tested it on default OS previously installed (
Mandriva variation ), it was working fine.

2 - I can't connect to 3g network, I pasted two pastebin of my f10 full
updated and other of my f11p without any updating

- F10 - http://fpaste.org/paste/10809
- F11p - http://fpaste.org/paste/10813

3 - ( doubt ) When I type ctrl+c, on last line appear a ^C


Thanks in advance.


Regards,

- -
iarly selbir | ski0s

:wq!
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090502/65001cd8/attachment.htm>

From cra at WPI.EDU  Sat May  2 18:50:26 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 14:50:26 -0400
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 03:23:55PM -0300, iarly selbir | ski0s wrote:
> Hi, I installed F11 preview using DVD iso in my new laptop and I got two
> problems:
> 
> 1 - I get move the mouse pointer using touch area, but I the click function
> isn't working, I already tested it on default OS previously installed (
> Mandriva variation ), it was working fine.

System->Preferences->Mouse->Touchpad->Enable mouse clicks with 
touchpad



From gerrytool at gmail.com  Sat May  2 18:51:32 2009
From: gerrytool at gmail.com (Gerry Tool)
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 13:51:32 -0500
Subject: F11 Preview : everything OK but Virtualbox
In-Reply-To: <20090502171640.GA1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <a1d3651e0905020913h450175dbi3416378a56389927@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502171640.GA1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <49FC9634.7030802@thetoolshed.us>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090502/d3aa93c6/attachment.htm>

From iarlyy at gmail.com  Sat May  2 18:55:04 2009
From: iarlyy at gmail.com (iarly selbir | ski0s)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:55:04 -0300
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <81481f630905021155s4e26ba7cx458b56ed4ba07c79@mail.gmail.com>

I'm using KDE.


Regards,

- -
iarly selbir | ski0s

:wq!


On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Chuck Anderson <cra at wpi.edu> wrote:

> On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 03:23:55PM -0300, iarly selbir | ski0s wrote:
> > Hi, I installed F11 preview using DVD iso in my new laptop and I got two
> > problems:
> >
> > 1 - I get move the mouse pointer using touch area, but I the click
> function
> > isn't working, I already tested it on default OS previously installed (
> > Mandriva variation ), it was working fine.
>
> System->Preferences->Mouse->Touchpad->Enable mouse clicks with
> touchpad
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090502/fc8ef572/attachment.htm>

From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Sat May  2 19:33:25 2009
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike Cloaked)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:33:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <81481f630905021155s4e26ba7cx458b56ed4ba07c79@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<81481f630905021155s4e26ba7cx458b56ed4ba07c79@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23349538.post@talk.nabble.com>




iarly selbir | ski0s wrote:
> 
> I'm using KDE.
> 
> 

maybe
synclient TapButton1=1
synclient TapButton2=2
synclient TapButton3=3

?
-- 
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/F11-Preview---issues-tp23348973p23349538.html
Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



From iarlyy at gmail.com  Sat May  2 19:47:00 2009
From: iarlyy at gmail.com (iarly selbir | ski0s)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 16:47:00 -0300
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <23349538.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<81481f630905021155s4e26ba7cx458b56ed4ba07c79@mail.gmail.com>
	<23349538.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <81481f630905021247qe4b4b53qb3c19603d9ae0d0d@mail.gmail.com>

After run this commands, now is working fine. do you know why this
behaviour?


I always that run this commands or is it a bug?

Regards,

- -
iarly selbir | ski0s

:wq!


On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Mike Cloaked <mike.cloaked at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> iarly selbir | ski0s wrote:
> >
> > I'm using KDE.
> >
> >
>
> maybe
> synclient TapButton1=1
> synclient TapButton2=2
> synclient TapButton3=3
>
> ?
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/F11-Preview---issues-tp23348973p23349538.html
> Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090502/5678f6a3/attachment.htm>

From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Sat May  2 21:23:50 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 14:23:50 -0700
Subject: GRAMPS
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905021423x766cf1c0q4f5360c7f1d962eb@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

Thanks to all of you that has responded to my problem with GRAMPS!

I solved it by a fresh install of F11-Preview-i386-Live.iso

Sincerely Yours,
Rob
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090502/28a66949/attachment.htm>

From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Sat May  2 21:26:56 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 17:26:56 -0400
Subject: boot failure rawhide 20080501
In-Reply-To: <49FB84CC.60201@cox.net>
References: <49FB51C0.1000100@cox.net> <49FB84CC.60201@cox.net>
Message-ID: <49FCBAA0.10802@cox.net>

On 05/01/2009 07:25 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 05/01/2009 03:47 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>> stops at (DRM) radeon loading, or so I think. No clue as to what
>> happened. I am going to repeat the install before bz'ing something.
>>
>> (Side note: HTTP install slow and dependency resolution is maddenly
>> slow.)
>>
> Tried again without encrypting anything, but can't get past radeon or
> wireless mouse. A completly up-to-date rawhide installation on same
> system boots fine with same kernel. Difference is attempted install is
> x86_64 while rawhide system is 32 bit.
>
> Still don't know where to go except to try development/os/i386 this time
> around.
>

This failed also with same symptoms.  Trying newer rawhide.

Anyone else seeing probs?



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sat May  2 21:46:06 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 03:16:06 +0530
Subject: RFC: Fedora 11 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <20090502105928.6ad5d627@zooty>
References: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>	<49FC4CED.4050501@speakeasy.net>
	<20090502105928.6ad5d627@zooty>
Message-ID: <49FCBF1E.6080807@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/02/2009 08:29 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I found the changes which totally emasculated lm_sensors to
> be pretty confusing and they don't appear to be documented
> anywhere other than replies to the lm_sensors bugzillas
> which keep getting closed as NOTABUG, so no one finds them
> when they look for bugs :-).
> 
> For example: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496355
> 
> Perhaps a mention in the FAQ or release notes would be
> in order?

Don't think so. It is hardly a FAQ. Release notes, maybe. You would have
to file a bug report on that. The GA one is already frozen for
translators but we do push post-release updates.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sat May  2 21:46:37 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 03:16:37 +0530
Subject: RFC: Fedora 11 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <49FC4CED.4050501@speakeasy.net>
References: <49FAC244.3050707@fedoraproject.org>
	<49FC4CED.4050501@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <49FCBF3D.1070709@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/02/2009 07:08 PM, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I suggest adding a link to the latest version of the Fedora 11
> Installation Guide.
> 
> Bob
> 

When it gets published, I will.

Rahul

Ps: Don't top post



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sat May  2 23:51:29 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 01:51:29 +0200
Subject: copy paste problem.
References: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org>

Adrin Jalali wrote:
> I remember a copy paste problem which was (I think at least) solved, but I
> can see it again using rawhide. When you copy something in an application,
> by the time you close that application it's being erased from the
> clipboard. So you should keep the source application open till you paste
> that somewhere else.
> 
> Is it supposed to be normal behavior?

This is just how the X11 clipboard works. The X11 clipboard contents are
stored within the application "owning" the clipboard, if you close it, poof,
there goes the clipboard. You need to run a clipboard manager such as
Klipper, Glipper etc., which fixes this by taking ownership of the
clipboard automatically.

        Kevin Kofler



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Sun May  3 03:50:03 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 23:50:03 -0400
Subject: boot failure rawhide 20080501
In-Reply-To: <49FCBAA0.10802@cox.net>
References: <49FB51C0.1000100@cox.net> <49FB84CC.60201@cox.net>
	<49FCBAA0.10802@cox.net>
Message-ID: <49FD146B.2060302@cox.net>

On 05/02/2009 05:26 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 05/01/2009 07:25 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>> On 05/01/2009 03:47 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>>> stops at (DRM) radeon loading, or so I think. No clue as to what
>>> happened. I am going to repeat the install before bz'ing something.
>>>
>>> (Side note: HTTP install slow and dependency resolution is maddenly
>>> slow.)
>>>
>> Tried again without encrypting anything, but can't get past radeon or
>> wireless mouse. A completly up-to-date rawhide installation on same
>> system boots fine with same kernel. Difference is attempted install is
>> x86_64 while rawhide system is 32 bit.
>>
>> Still don't know where to go except to try development/os/i386 this time
>> around.
>>
>
> This failed also with same symptoms. Trying newer rawhide.
>
> Anyone else seeing probs?
>

Newer rawhide also fails.  Don't know if prob is kernel, anaconda, or 
what.  Retried F11 Preview and it boots fine.  Would think kernel, but 
same kernel boots fine in updated rawhide on same system.



From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Sun May  3 06:21:32 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 16:21:32 +1000
Subject: touchpad tap status in F11 pre-release?
In-Reply-To: <1240959772.32113.231.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <23286627.post@talk.nabble.com> <49F7788D.2070307@cchtml.com>
	<20090428215118.GA62416@mail.scottro.net>
	<1240959772.32113.231.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1241331692.15455.4.camel@moose>

On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 16:02 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 17:51 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
> 
> > There was no discussion that I noticed (see my post a day or two ago,
> > when someone was kind enough to check their Gnome settings and see it's
> > apparently disabled by default.)
> > 
> > (By that, I mean no discussion that I saw on this list, I don't know
> > about the developer lists.)
> 
> Isn't this another upstream change - i.e. the new synaptics driver
> disables it by default, while the old one enabled it by default?

I've just installed f11 and it seems that the width of the vertical
scroll area has been reduced.  I've got a Dell Inspiron 9300 with quite
a big step up (about 2mm) from the mouse pad to the case and I have to
jam my finger into the corner to get the scroll to work.


R.


-- 
"It's a fine line between denial and faith.
 It's much better on my side"



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Sun May  3 09:58:30 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 05:58:30 -0400
Subject: touchpad tap status in F11 pre-release?
In-Reply-To: <1241331692.15455.4.camel@moose>
References: <23286627.post@talk.nabble.com> <49F7788D.2070307@cchtml.com>
	<20090428215118.GA62416@mail.scottro.net>
	<1240959772.32113.231.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1241331692.15455.4.camel@moose>
Message-ID: <20090503095830.GA10896@mail.scottro.net>

On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 04:21:32PM +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 16:02 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 17:51 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > 
> > > There was no discussion that I noticed (see my post a day or two ago,
> > > when someone was kind enough to check their Gnome settings and see it's
> > > apparently disabled by default.)
> > > 
> 
> I've just installed f11 and it seems that the width of the vertical
> scroll area has been reduced.  I've got a Dell Inspiron 9300 with quite
> a big step up (about 2mm) from the mouse pad to the case and I have to
> jam my finger into the corner to get the scroll to work.

For what it's worth, I haven't noticed that part.  On the Asus EEE
1000HE, two finger scrolling was unaffected by this, only tapping was
affected. 


-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Giles: But this is why I think we should all keep a level head in
this. 
Willow: And I happen to think mine is the level head and yours is
the one things would roll off of. 



From seandarcy2 at gmail.com  Sun May  3 13:55:57 2009
From: seandarcy2 at gmail.com (sean darcy)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 09:55:57 -0400
Subject: F11 Preview : everything OK but Virtualbox
In-Reply-To: <a1d3651e0905020913h450175dbi3416378a56389927@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1d3651e0905020913h450175dbi3416378a56389927@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gtk7pd$3lg$1@ger.gmane.org>

E.B. A. wrote:
> Guys,
>  everything works fine now (thanks to some of you) except for Virtualbox:
> - Skype works great, Audio and Webcam are working. I needed to do some 
> tricks but the final result is good.
> - nVidia drivers are ok.
> - Compiz (in gnome) is impressive, fast and reliable.
> - openOffice, KDE ecc. work ok. I have to say that KDE is not really 
> usable in my opinion, but most probably it's just me not used to it.
> - User admin, file admin etc is ok, for what I can tell.
> - I never had any serious problem. Somehow after I installed the nVidia 
> drivers the reboot started to work and does not hang up anymore.
> 
> My only problem is VirtualBox. Whenever I try to run a new virtual 
> session, somehow, it just stop working. I installed the dkms but somehow 
> it doesn't work. Still, I think it's because of something I do, I 
> haven't really done any troubleshoot.
> 
> Overall, I would definitely suggest to move to Fedora 11.
> 
> Thanks,
> Enrico Accenti
> 

For VirtualBox, is this what you're seeing?

http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/3872

sean



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sun May  3 13:56:46 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sun,  3 May 2009 13:56:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090503 changes
Message-ID: <20090503135647.0E9B61F820B@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sun May  3 06:15:08 UTC 2009

Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sun May  3 15:52:56 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 11:52:56 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11: Using USB UART Devices Like FTDI FT232R
Message-ID: <49FDBDD8.2090000@speakeasy.net>

If you like playing with Arduino devices, like I do, you need to have 
serial port access. These days the easiest way to do that is over USB. 
Under Fedora 11, If you plug in an FTDI FT232R uart in order to get 
serial access over USB, the resulting device could show up with these 
permissions:

# ls -al /dev/ttyUSB*
crw-rw----. 1 root dialout 188, 0 2009-05-03 10:24 /dev/ttyUSB0

To actually have access to the device, the user must become a member of 
the dialout group. Once you add yourself to the group, you log out and 
log in and access is magically granted.

This restriction is not consistent with how Fedora 10 works. I didn't 
have this problem there.

For context, here are the kernel messages I got when I plugged in the 
device:

May  3 10:24:15 deafeng3 kernel: usb 6-1: new full speed USB device 
using uhci_hcd and address 2
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: usb 6-1: New USB device found, 
idVendor=0403, idProduct=6001
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: usb 6-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, 
Product=2, SerialNumber=3
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: usb 6-1: Product: FT232R USB UART
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: usb 6-1: Manufacturer: FTDI
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: usb 6-1: SerialNumber: A8007UF2
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 
choice
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: usbcore: registered new interface 
driver usbserial
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: USB Serial support registered for generic
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: usbcore: registered new interface 
driver usbserial_generic
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: usbserial: USB Serial Driver core
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: USB Serial support registered for FTDI 
USB Serial Device
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: ftdi_sio 6-1:1.0: FTDI USB Serial 
Device converter detected
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: usb 6-1: Detected FT232RL
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: usb 6-1: FTDI USB Serial Device 
converter now attached to ttyUSB0
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: usbcore: registered new interface 
driver ftdi_sio
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 kernel: ftdi_sio: v1.4.3:USB FTDI Serial 
Converters Driver
May  3 10:24:16 deafeng3 NetworkManager: <info>  (ttyUSB0): ignoring due 
to lack of mobile broadband capabilties
May  3 10:37:14 deafeng3 yum: Installed: avrdude-5.5-4.fc11.x86_64
May  3 10:47:06 deafeng3 pcscd: winscard.c:309:SCardConnect() Reader 
E-Gate 0 0 Not Found
May  3 10:47:06 deafeng3 pcscd: winscard.c:309:SCardConnect() Reader 
E-Gate 0 0 Not Found
May  3 10:47:06 deafeng3 pcscd: winscard.c:309:SCardConnect() Reader 
E-Gate 0 0 Not Found
May  3 10:47:06 deafeng3 pcscd: winscard.c:309:SCardConnect() Reader 
E-Gate 0 0 Not Found


Thanks

Bob




From awilliam at redhat.com  Sun May  3 16:51:08 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 09:51:08 -0700
Subject: Bugzappers: requests from maintainers for special treatment
In-Reply-To: <1240964510.32113.241.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1240437610.14173.741.camel@adam.local.net>
	<gt85q7$8ce$6@ger.gmane.org>
	<1240964510.32113.241.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1241369468.2923.37.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 17:21 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> > That said, it's unfortunate that we're abusing NEW as UNCONFIRMED and
> > ASSIGNED as NEW (and have a nonstandard ON_DEV state which is being abused
> > as ASSIGNED). It would make much more sense to use the standard Bugzilla
> > terminology. This is also an artefact of sharing the RHEL Bugzilla with its
> > nonstandard workflow. We end up trying to give meanings to the states
> > defined by RHEL rather than defining the states we actually need and
> > keeping close to upstream Bugzilla terminology.
> 
> Yeah, we've been discussing that. It's a fairly big problem to try and
> get a hold of, though. I'd rather like a fix in which we can present one
> set of states and resolutions for Fedora bugs and another set for RHEL
> bugs, but I'm not sure if that's technically possible without excessive
> patching. I need to talk to the Bugzilla maintainer.

Couple of updates here: I've summarised this thread as it currently lies
at rest for the next issue of FWN, so keep an eye out for that tomorrow.
Also, on the above - I talked to David, and unfortunately for now it's
not technically possible to show different statuses and resolutions for
Fedora and RHEL bugs within the single Bugzilla instance. It is a
feature that's previously been requested and one David is interested in,
but Bugzilla itself doesn't yet have the infrastructure to make it
possible. So we may have to wait a while on that one :(
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Sun May  3 19:45:27 2009
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 21:45:27 +0200
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
Message-ID: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>

http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-11-fail-because-of-anaconda/

I wrote a blog post regarding issues I have with Fedora 11 anaconda installer.
How is your experience using Fedora anaconda installer with Fedora 11
beta and preview releases?

Cheers.

-- 
http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/
linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless
registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org.
ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun May  3 20:45:54 2009
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:45:54 +0200
Subject: What is happening??
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0905031345y1f2d9bfdv6e7ec81c20caf6d9@mail.gmail.com>

I updated my system and now I am experiencing:

mouse gets blocked and after sometime it starts work again
in Firefox I cannot open the sub-menus in any menu, I do not see the
list of recently visited sites...
Right button is not working, copy and paste is not working.....I am
running on nouveau driver but I think that it is connected to
something else as I tried also nv driver with no improvement!!!!.....


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag
SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun May  3 20:47:33 2009
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:47:33 +0200
Subject: What is happening??
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0905031345y1f2d9bfdv6e7ec81c20caf6d9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0905031345y1f2d9bfdv6e7ec81c20caf6d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0905031347t1d58a0c2uc40e79d779b7a139@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> I updated my system and now I am experiencing:
>
> mouse gets blocked and after sometime it starts work again
> in Firefox I cannot open the sub-menus in any menu, I do not see the
> list of recently visited sites...
> Right button is not working, copy and paste is not working.....I am
> running on nouveau driver but I think that it is connected to
> something else as I tried also nv driver with no improvement!!!!.....
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>

firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag
SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun May  3 20:51:49 2009
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:51:49 +0200
Subject: What is happening??
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0905031347t1d58a0c2uc40e79d779b7a139@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0905031345y1f2d9bfdv6e7ec81c20caf6d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031347t1d58a0c2uc40e79d779b7a139@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0905031351w43cb49f6safae700d9c9a1925@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> I updated my system and now I am experiencing:
>>
>> mouse gets blocked and after sometime it starts work again
>> in Firefox I cannot open the sub-menus in any menu, I do not see the
>> list of recently visited sites...
>> Right button is not working, copy and paste is not working.....I am
>> running on nouveau driver but I think that it is connected to
>> something else as I tried also nv driver with no improvement!!!!.....
>>
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>
>
> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>

is gnome-desktop the component to filed against???

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag
SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Sun May  3 20:49:15 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:49:15 -0700
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>


Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic at gmail.com> writes:
> http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-11-fail-because-of-anaconda/

The x86_64 Preview doesn't run here.  I tried it on two different
machines and in both cases it hung shortly after the "booting from CD"
printf.

        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498761

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              http://www.full-steam.org/  (ipv6-only)
         You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun May  3 20:59:26 2009
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:59:26 +0200
Subject: What is happening??
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0905031351w43cb49f6safae700d9c9a1925@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0905031345y1f2d9bfdv6e7ec81c20caf6d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031347t1d58a0c2uc40e79d779b7a139@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031351w43cb49f6safae700d9c9a1925@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0905031359x1044b6b1n8122bf005f41749e@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> I updated my system and now I am experiencing:
>>>
>>> mouse gets blocked and after sometime it starts work again
>>> in Firefox I cannot open the sub-menus in any menu, I do not see the
>>> list of recently visited sites...
>>> Right button is not working, copy and paste is not working.....I am
>>> running on nouveau driver but I think that it is connected to
>>> something else as I tried also nv driver with no improvement!!!!.....
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>
>>
>> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>
>
> is gnome-desktop the component to filed against???
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>

and mouse is unlocked by pressing some button of keyboard...(not always..)

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag
SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun May  3 21:17:14 2009
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 23:17:14 +0200
Subject: What is happening??
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0905031359x1044b6b1n8122bf005f41749e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0905031345y1f2d9bfdv6e7ec81c20caf6d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031347t1d58a0c2uc40e79d779b7a139@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031351w43cb49f6safae700d9c9a1925@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031359x1044b6b1n8122bf005f41749e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0905031417u88eaea1n80976552694c0f4b@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>> I updated my system and now I am experiencing:
>>>>
>>>> mouse gets blocked and after sometime it starts work again
>>>> in Firefox I cannot open the sub-menus in any menu, I do not see the
>>>> list of recently visited sites...
>>>> Right button is not working, copy and paste is not working.....I am
>>>> running on nouveau driver but I think that it is connected to
>>>> something else as I tried also nv driver with no improvement!!!!.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>
>>>
>>> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11
>>>
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>
>>
>> is gnome-desktop the component to filed against???
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>
>
> and mouse is unlocked by pressing some button of keyboard...(not always..)
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>

																																																					I find these
	lines in dmesg:																																																																																																																	un
() from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #17 0x0804d34f in endutxent ()
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #18 0x00b8ba66 in __libc_start_main ()
from /lib/libc.so.6
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #19 0x0804cf41 in endutxent ()
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]:
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: Thread 1 (process 2768):
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #0  0x00d65416 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #1  0x00c13943 in __waitpid_nocancel
() from /lib/libc.so.6
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #2  0x08066a49 in ?? ()
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #3  0x08066b41 in ?? ()
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #4  <signal handler called>
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #5  0x00dc3682 in
g_type_check_instance_cast () from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #6  0x0805a57a in endutxent ()
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #7  0x00db2a98 in
g_cclosure_marshal_VOID(int0_t) ()
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]:    from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #8  0x00da5352 in g_closure_invoke ()
from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #9  0x00dbabc8 in ?? () from
/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #10 0x00dbbf7d in g_signal_emit_valist
() from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #11 0x00dbc406 in g_signal_emit ()
from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #12 0x0805cb2c in endutxent ()
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #13 0x001343a2 in ?? () from
/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #14 0x001361e8 in
g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #15 0x001397f8 in ?? () from
/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #16 0x00139caf in g_main_loop_run ()
from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #17 0x0804d34f in endutxent ()
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #18 0x00b8ba66 in __libc_start_main ()
from /lib/libc.so.6
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #19 0x0804cf41 in endutxent ()
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: The program is running.  Quit anyway
(and detach it)? (y or n) [answered Y; input not from terminal]
May  3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: ******************* END
**********************************


and also :

Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
May  3 23:11:17 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag
SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun May  3 21:19:14 2009
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 23:19:14 +0200
Subject: What is happening??
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0905031417u88eaea1n80976552694c0f4b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0905031345y1f2d9bfdv6e7ec81c20caf6d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031347t1d58a0c2uc40e79d779b7a139@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031351w43cb49f6safae700d9c9a1925@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031359x1044b6b1n8122bf005f41749e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031417u88eaea1n80976552694c0f4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0905031419q7aad249agd082ebe80950b0ab@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>> I updated my system and now I am experiencing:
>>>>>
>>>>> mouse gets blocked and after sometime it starts work again
>>>>> in Firefox I cannot open the sub-menus in any menu, I do not see the
>>>>> list of recently visited sites...
>>>>> Right button is not working, copy and paste is not working.....I am
>>>>> running on nouveau driver but I think that it is connected to
>>>>> something else as I tried also nv driver with no improvement!!!!.....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>
>>>
>>> is gnome-desktop the component to filed against???
>>>
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>
>>
>> and mouse is unlocked by pressing some button of keyboard...(not always..)
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I find these
> ? ? ? ?lines in dmesg: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? un
> () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #17 0x0804d34f in endutxent ()
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #18 0x00b8ba66 in __libc_start_main ()
> from /lib/libc.so.6
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #19 0x0804cf41 in endutxent ()
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]:
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: Thread 1 (process 2768):
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #0 ?0x00d65416 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #1 ?0x00c13943 in __waitpid_nocancel
> () from /lib/libc.so.6
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #2 ?0x08066a49 in ?? ()
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #3 ?0x08066b41 in ?? ()
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #4 ?<signal handler called>
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #5 ?0x00dc3682 in
> g_type_check_instance_cast () from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #6 ?0x0805a57a in endutxent ()
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #7 ?0x00db2a98 in
> g_cclosure_marshal_VOID(int0_t) ()
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: ? ?from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #8 ?0x00da5352 in g_closure_invoke ()
> from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #9 ?0x00dbabc8 in ?? () from
> /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #10 0x00dbbf7d in g_signal_emit_valist
> () from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #11 0x00dbc406 in g_signal_emit ()
> from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #12 0x0805cb2c in endutxent ()
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #13 0x001343a2 in ?? () from
> /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #14 0x001361e8 in
> g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #15 0x001397f8 in ?? () from
> /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #16 0x00139caf in g_main_loop_run ()
> from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #17 0x0804d34f in endutxent ()
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #18 0x00b8ba66 in __libc_start_main ()
> from /lib/libc.so.6
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #19 0x0804cf41 in endutxent ()
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: The program is running. ?Quit anyway
> (and detach it)? (y or n) [answered Y; input not from terminal]
> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: ******************* END
> **********************************
>
>
> and also :
>
> Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
> May ?3 23:11:17 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>
and also.....

Casa kernel: psmouse.c: Failed to enable mouse on isa0060/serio1
May  3 23:11:01 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
May  3 23:11:17 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
May  3 23:12:58 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
May  3 23:13:37 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
May  3 23:16:27 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
May  3 23:16:33 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: failed to re-enable mouse on
isa0060/serio1
May  3 23:16:33 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag
SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net



From psmith at fedoraproject.org  Sun May  3 21:31:54 2009
From: psmith at fedoraproject.org (psmith)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 22:31:54 +0100
Subject: touchpad tap status in F11 pre-release?
In-Reply-To: <1241331692.15455.4.camel@moose>
References: <23286627.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<49F7788D.2070307@cchtml.com>	<20090428215118.GA62416@mail.scottro.net>	<1240959772.32113.231.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1241331692.15455.4.camel@moose>
Message-ID: <49FE0D4A.9000508@fedoraproject.org>

Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 16:02 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>   
>> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 17:51 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> There was no discussion that I noticed (see my post a day or two ago,
>>> when someone was kind enough to check their Gnome settings and see it's
>>> apparently disabled by default.)
>>>
>>> (By that, I mean no discussion that I saw on this list, I don't know
>>> about the developer lists.)
>>>       
>> Isn't this another upstream change - i.e. the new synaptics driver
>> disables it by default, while the old one enabled it by default?
>>     
>
> I've just installed f11 and it seems that the width of the vertical
> scroll area has been reduced.  I've got a Dell Inspiron 9300 with quite
> a big step up (about 2mm) from the mouse pad to the case and I have to
> jam my finger into the corner to get the scroll to work.
>
> R.
>
>
>   
i also see this in F11 on my aspire one, (i've been meaning to file a 
bz) and i can see no way of fixing it, the windoze driver includes an 
option for changing the size of the scroll areas but there is no such 
option in the linux version :(

phil



From tgl at redhat.com  Mon May  4 00:08:37 2009
From: tgl at redhat.com (Tom Lane)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 20:08:37 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :( 
In-Reply-To: <878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> 
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>
Message-ID: <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>

"Wolfgang S. Rupprecht" <wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com> writes:
> Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic at gmail.com> writes:
>> http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-11-fail-because-of-anaconda/

> The x86_64 Preview doesn't run here.

The PPC port has also gone largely untested, because it's impossible
to install it on Apple-based hardware (and how many of us own any other
kind of PPC?), thanks to this still-unaddressed bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492154

I don't have any warm fuzzies about how good F11 is going to be;
I'm afraid that anaconda's instability has blocked a lot of the
testing we'd normally get.

			regards, tom lane



From affix at FedoraProject.org  Mon May  4 00:48:28 2009
From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 01:48:28 +0100
Subject: Rawhide Update on Fedora 10 Breaks Boot
Message-ID: <b5b999040905031748v26865311i5328c2e72b749ef7@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,
  I upgraded my system using

yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide upgrade -y

After I restarted my system The boot screen would freeze and refuse to boot
the system. I had no error. After numerous attempts to recover my system I
had to re-install fedora from disk.

-- 
Keiran Smith
- Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - <affix at fedoraproject.org>
- Free Software Foundation Associate - <keiran.smith at member.fsf.org>
- http://keiran-smith.net
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/24c929bf/attachment.htm>

From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Mon May  4 03:38:58 2009
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 05:38:58 +0200
Subject: What is happening??
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0905031419q7aad249agd082ebe80950b0ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0905031345y1f2d9bfdv6e7ec81c20caf6d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031347t1d58a0c2uc40e79d779b7a139@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031351w43cb49f6safae700d9c9a1925@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031359x1044b6b1n8122bf005f41749e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031417u88eaea1n80976552694c0f4b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031419q7aad249agd082ebe80950b0ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0905032038p5ab3d832wd0f8cd651f0a3ac9@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> I updated my system and now I am experiencing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mouse gets blocked and after sometime it starts work again
>>>>>> in Firefox I cannot open the sub-menus in any menu, I do not see the
>>>>>> list of recently visited sites...
>>>>>> Right button is not working, copy and paste is not working.....I am
>>>>>> running on nouveau driver but I think that it is connected to
>>>>>> something else as I tried also nv driver with no improvement!!!!.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> is gnome-desktop the component to filed against???
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>
>>>
>>> and mouse is unlocked by pressing some button of keyboard...(not always..)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>
>>
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I find these
>> ? ? ? ?lines in dmesg: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? un
>> () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #17 0x0804d34f in endutxent ()
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #18 0x00b8ba66 in __libc_start_main ()
>> from /lib/libc.so.6
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #19 0x0804cf41 in endutxent ()
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]:
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: Thread 1 (process 2768):
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #0 ?0x00d65416 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #1 ?0x00c13943 in __waitpid_nocancel
>> () from /lib/libc.so.6
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #2 ?0x08066a49 in ?? ()
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #3 ?0x08066b41 in ?? ()
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #4 ?<signal handler called>
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #5 ?0x00dc3682 in
>> g_type_check_instance_cast () from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #6 ?0x0805a57a in endutxent ()
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #7 ?0x00db2a98 in
>> g_cclosure_marshal_VOID(int0_t) ()
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: ? ?from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #8 ?0x00da5352 in g_closure_invoke ()
>> from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #9 ?0x00dbabc8 in ?? () from
>> /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #10 0x00dbbf7d in g_signal_emit_valist
>> () from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #11 0x00dbc406 in g_signal_emit ()
>> from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #12 0x0805cb2c in endutxent ()
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #13 0x001343a2 in ?? () from
>> /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #14 0x001361e8 in
>> g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #15 0x001397f8 in ?? () from
>> /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #16 0x00139caf in g_main_loop_run ()
>> from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #17 0x0804d34f in endutxent ()
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #18 0x00b8ba66 in __libc_start_main ()
>> from /lib/libc.so.6
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #19 0x0804cf41 in endutxent ()
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: The program is running. ?Quit anyway
>> (and detach it)? (y or n) [answered Y; input not from terminal]
>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: ******************* END
>> **********************************
>>
>>
>> and also :
>>
>> Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>> May ?3 23:11:17 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>
> and also.....
>
> Casa kernel: psmouse.c: Failed to enable mouse on isa0060/serio1
> May ?3 23:11:01 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
> May ?3 23:11:17 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
> May ?3 23:12:58 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
> May ?3 23:13:37 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
> May ?3 23:16:27 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
> May ?3 23:16:33 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: failed to re-enable mouse on
> isa0060/serio1
> May ?3 23:16:33 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>
another hint can be:

May  4 05:23:42 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at
isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away.
May  4 05:23:42 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
May  4 05:23:51 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
May  4 05:24:28 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
May  4 05:24:40 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag
SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net



From rc040203 at freenet.de  Mon May  4 03:46:42 2009
From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 05:46:42 +0200
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FE6522.5030506@freenet.de>

Valent Turkovic wrote:
> http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-11-fail-because-of-anaconda/
> 
> I wrote a blog post regarding issues I have with Fedora 11 anaconda installer.
> How is your experience using Fedora anaconda installer with Fedora 11
> beta and preview releases?

Pretty much the same as yours - I tried to install F11-Preview on a free 
in parallel to FC10, on a emtpy lvm volume and was facing installer 
exceptions.

I resorted to copying the F10 installation to the lvm volume and to "yum 
upgrade" it to rawhide.

Ralf





From bruno at wolff.to  Mon May  4 04:00:01 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 23:00:01 -0500
Subject: Rawhide Update on Fedora 10 Breaks Boot
In-Reply-To: <b5b999040905031748v26865311i5328c2e72b749ef7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b5b999040905031748v26865311i5328c2e72b749ef7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090504040001.GB14284@wolff.to>

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 01:48:28 +0100,
  Keiran Smith <affix at FedoraProject.org> wrote:
> Hey,
>   I upgraded my system using
> 
> yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide upgrade -y
> 
> After I restarted my system The boot screen would freeze and refuse to boot
> the system. I had no error. After numerous attempts to recover my system I
> had to re-install fedora from disk.

What kind of video card do you have?

Did you try booting with the nomodeset kernel parameter?

(I have similar symptoms with my ATI 9200 when I don't use nomodeset.
The system eventually boots into X, but the screen is black until X starts
and vt's don't work. With nomodeset things work fine.)



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Mon May  4 04:02:07 2009
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 06:02:07 +0200
Subject: What is happening??
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0905032038p5ab3d832wd0f8cd651f0a3ac9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0905031345y1f2d9bfdv6e7ec81c20caf6d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031347t1d58a0c2uc40e79d779b7a139@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031351w43cb49f6safae700d9c9a1925@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031359x1044b6b1n8122bf005f41749e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031417u88eaea1n80976552694c0f4b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031419q7aad249agd082ebe80950b0ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905032038p5ab3d832wd0f8cd651f0a3ac9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0905032102k54e22142s3e0cf5581fd43401@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/4 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> I updated my system and now I am experiencing:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mouse gets blocked and after sometime it starts work again
>>>>>>> in Firefox I cannot open the sub-menus in any menu, I do not see the
>>>>>>> list of recently visited sites...
>>>>>>> Right button is not working, copy and paste is not working.....I am
>>>>>>> running on nouveau driver but I think that it is connected to
>>>>>>> something else as I tried also nv driver with no improvement!!!!.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> is gnome-desktop the component to filed against???
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and mouse is unlocked by pressing some button of keyboard...(not always..)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>
>>>
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I find these
>>> ? ? ? ?lines in dmesg: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? un
>>> () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #17 0x0804d34f in endutxent ()
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #18 0x00b8ba66 in __libc_start_main ()
>>> from /lib/libc.so.6
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #19 0x0804cf41 in endutxent ()
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]:
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: Thread 1 (process 2768):
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #0 ?0x00d65416 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #1 ?0x00c13943 in __waitpid_nocancel
>>> () from /lib/libc.so.6
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #2 ?0x08066a49 in ?? ()
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #3 ?0x08066b41 in ?? ()
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #4 ?<signal handler called>
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #5 ?0x00dc3682 in
>>> g_type_check_instance_cast () from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #6 ?0x0805a57a in endutxent ()
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #7 ?0x00db2a98 in
>>> g_cclosure_marshal_VOID(int0_t) ()
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: ? ?from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #8 ?0x00da5352 in g_closure_invoke ()
>>> from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #9 ?0x00dbabc8 in ?? () from
>>> /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #10 0x00dbbf7d in g_signal_emit_valist
>>> () from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #11 0x00dbc406 in g_signal_emit ()
>>> from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #12 0x0805cb2c in endutxent ()
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #13 0x001343a2 in ?? () from
>>> /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #14 0x001361e8 in
>>> g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #15 0x001397f8 in ?? () from
>>> /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #16 0x00139caf in g_main_loop_run ()
>>> from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #17 0x0804d34f in endutxent ()
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #18 0x00b8ba66 in __libc_start_main ()
>>> from /lib/libc.so.6
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #19 0x0804cf41 in endutxent ()
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: The program is running. ?Quit anyway
>>> (and detach it)? (y or n) [answered Y; input not from terminal]
>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: ******************* END
>>> **********************************
>>>
>>>
>>> and also :
>>>
>>> Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>>> May ?3 23:11:17 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>
>> and also.....
>>
>> Casa kernel: psmouse.c: Failed to enable mouse on isa0060/serio1
>> May ?3 23:11:01 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>> May ?3 23:11:17 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>> May ?3 23:12:58 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>> May ?3 23:13:37 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>> May ?3 23:16:27 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>> May ?3 23:16:33 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: failed to re-enable mouse on
>> isa0060/serio1
>> May ?3 23:16:33 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>
> another hint can be:
>
> May ?4 05:23:42 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at
> isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away.
> May ?4 05:23:42 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
> May ?4 05:23:51 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
> May ?4 05:24:28 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
> May ?4 05:24:40 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>
latest updates are:

Apr 30 12:50:18 Updated: libgcc.i586 4.4.0-3
Apr 30 12:50:19 Updated: gnome-python2-extras.i586 2.25.3-3.fc11
Apr 30 12:50:54 Updated: selinux-policy.noarch 3.6.12-23.fc11
Apr 30 12:50:57 Updated: kernel-firmware.noarch 2.6.29.1-111.fc11
Apr 30 12:51:11 Installed: kernel-headers.i586 2.6.29.1-111.fc11
Apr 30 12:51:55 Updated: selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 3.6.12-23.fc11
Apr 30 12:51:56 Updated: fedora-gnome-theme.noarch 8.0.0-9.fc11
Apr 30 12:51:58 Updated: kde-settings.noarch 4.2-8.20090427svn.fc11
Apr 30 12:51:58 Updated: kde-settings-kdm.noarch 4.2-8.20090427svn.fc11
Apr 30 12:52:16 Updated: glibc.i686 2.9.90-22
Apr 30 12:52:16 Updated: libstdc++.i586 4.4.0-3
Apr 30 12:52:17 Updated: cups-libs.i586 1:1.4-0.b2.15.fc11
Apr 30 12:52:27 Updated: xulrunner.i586 1.9.1-0.20.beta4.fc11
Apr 30 12:53:07 Updated: glibc-common.i586 2.9.90-22
Apr 30 12:53:23 Updated: libgcj.i586 4.4.0-3
Apr 30 12:53:36 Updated: google-gadgets.i586 0.10.5-6.fc11
Apr 30 12:53:37 Updated: libgomp.i586 4.4.0-3
Apr 30 12:54:08 Updated: gdm.i586 1:2.26.1-4.fc11
Apr 30 12:54:10 Updated: bind-libs.i586 32:9.6.1-0.2.b1.fc11
Apr 30 12:54:54 Updated: java-1.6.0-openjdk.i586 1:1.6.0.0-20.b14.fc11
Apr 30 12:55:15 Updated: cups.i586 1:1.4-0.b2.15.fc11
Apr 30 12:55:16 Updated: google-gadgets-qt.i586 0.10.5-6.fc11
Apr 30 12:55:20 Updated: opal.i586 3.6.1-3.fc11
Apr 30 12:55:33 Updated: rhythmbox.i586 0.12.1-1.fc11
Apr 30 12:55:35 Updated: upstart.i586 0.3.9-24.fc11
Apr 30 12:55:36 Updated: nash.i586 6.0.83-1.fc11
Apr 30 12:55:37 Updated: grubby.i586 6.0.83-1.fc11
Apr 30 12:55:38 Updated: libmodplug.i586 1:0.8.7-1.fc11
Apr 30 12:55:42 Updated: a52dec.i586 0.7.4-15.fc11
Apr 30 12:55:50 Updated: gnome-desktop.i586 2.26.1-2.fc11
Apr 30 12:55:52 Updated: libgfortran.i586 4.4.0-3
Apr 30 12:55:54 Updated: cpp.i586 4.4.0-3
Apr 30 12:55:55 Updated: gupnp.i586 0.12.7-1.fc11
Apr 30 12:55:56 Updated: libmudflap.i586 4.4.0-3
Apr 30 12:56:22 Updated: ekiga.i586 3.2.0-2.fc11
Apr 30 12:56:23 Updated: java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin.i586 1:1.6.0.0-20.b14.fc11
Apr 30 12:56:25 Updated: bind-utils.i586 32:9.6.1-0.2.b1.fc11
Apr 30 12:56:25 Updated: gdm-user-switch-applet.i586 1:2.26.1-4.fc11
Apr 30 12:56:37 Updated: yelp.i586 2.26.0-3.fc11
Apr 30 12:56:40 Updated: tigervnc.i586 0.0.90-0.6.20090427svn3789.fc11
Apr 30 12:56:41 Updated: tigervnc-server-module.i586
0.0.90-0.6.20090427svn3789.fc11
Apr 30 12:56:45 Updated: nscd.i586 2.9.90-22
Apr 30 12:56:55 Updated: notification-daemon.i586 0.4.0-3.fc11
Apr 30 12:56:56 Updated: gnome-python2-libegg.i586 2.25.3-3.fc11
Apr 30 12:56:56 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-mga.i586 1.4.10-1.fc11
Apr 30 12:56:57 Updated: gnome-python2-gtkhtml2.i586 2.25.3-3.fc11
Apr 30 12:56:57 Updated: mkinitrd.i586 6.0.83-1.fc11
Apr 30 12:57:17 Updated: libstdc++-devel.i586 4.4.0-3
Apr 30 12:57:27 Installed: glibc-headers.i586 2.9.90-22
Apr 30 12:57:29 Updated: glibc-devel.i586 2.9.90-22
Apr 30 12:57:31 Updated: redhat-lsb.i586 3.2-3.fc11
Apr 30 12:57:31 Updated: rhythmbox-upnp.i586 0.12.1-1.fc11
Apr 30 12:57:44 Updated: firefox.i586 3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11
Apr 30 12:57:45 Updated: cups-devel.i586 1:1.4-0.b2.15.fc11
Apr 30 12:58:50 Installed: kernel-PAE.i686 2.6.29.1-111.fc11
Apr 30 12:58:56 Updated: gcc.i586 4.4.0-3
Apr 30 12:58:57 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-ati.i586 6.12.2-7.fc11
Apr 30 12:59:00 Updated: gcc-c++.i586 4.4.0-3
apr 30 13:14:37 Installed: gparted.i586 0.4.4-1.fc11
apr 30 13:14:37 Installed: gpart.i586 0.1h-11.fc11
apr 30 18:11:10 Updated: openoffice.org-opensymbol-fonts.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:11:13 Updated: autocorr-it.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:11:14 Updated: autocorr-en.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:11:18 Updated: thunderbird-lightning.i586 1.0-0.2.20090302hg.fc11
apr 30 18:11:23 Updated: openoffice.org-ure.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:13:35 Updated: openoffice.org-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:13:42 Updated: openoffice.org-brand.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:13:51 Updated: openoffice.org-calc-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:14:33 Updated: gnome-desktop.i586 2.26.1-4.fc11
apr 30 18:14:35 Updated: bind-libs.i586 32:9.6.1-0.3.b1.fc11
apr 30 18:14:38 Updated: openoffice.org-base-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:14:41 Updated: openoffice.org-impress-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:15:08 Updated: rhythmbox.i586 0.12.1-2.fc11
apr 30 18:15:29 Updated: openoffice.org-presenter-screen.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:15:37 Updated: openoffice.org-writer-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:15:38 Updated: openoffice.org-graphicfilter.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:15:41 Updated: openoffice.org-math-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:15:42 Updated: ksysguardd.i586 4.2.2-5.fc11
apr 30 18:15:47 Updated: kdm.i586 4.2.2-5.fc11
apr 30 18:15:48 Updated: openoffice.org-writer.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:15:50 Updated: openoffice.org-impress.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:15:51 Updated: bind-utils.i586 32:9.6.1-0.3.b1.fc11
apr 30 18:16:24 Updated: gnome-screensaver.i586 2.26.1-2.fc11
apr 30 18:17:00 Updated: gnome-settings-daemon.i586 2.26.1-3.fc11
apr 30 18:17:02 Updated: openoffice.org-calc.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:17:37 Updated: scribus.i586 1.3.5-0.12.beta.fc11
apr 30 18:17:40 Updated: openoffice.org-draw-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:17:42 Updated: openoffice.org-math.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:17:42 Updated: rhythmbox-upnp.i586 0.12.1-2.fc11
apr 30 18:17:44 Updated: openoffice.org-base.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:17:46 Updated: openoffice.org-xsltfilter.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:18:02 Updated: openoffice.org-langpack-it.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:18:03 Updated: openoffice.org-langpack-en.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:18:18 Updated: openoffice.org-pdfimport.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:18:19 Updated: openoffice.org-draw.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
apr 30 18:18:23 Updated: kdebase-workspace-libs.i586 4.2.2-5.fc11
apr 30 18:18:57 Updated: kdebase-workspace.i586 4.2.2-5.fc11
mag 01 18:17:01 Updated: fedora-release.noarch 10.93-2
mag 01 18:17:03 Updated: kde-settings.noarch 4.2-9.20090429svn.fc11
mag 01 18:17:04 Updated: kde-settings-kdm.noarch 4.2-9.20090429svn.fc11
mag 01 18:17:06 Updated: grub.i586 0.97-50.fc11
mag 01 18:17:17 Updated: gtk2.i586 2.16.1-4.fc11
mag 01 18:17:18 Updated: lcms-libs.i586 1.18-2.fc11
mag 01 18:17:19 Updated: nss_compat_ossl.i586 0.9.5-3.fc11
mag 01 18:17:24 Updated: opencv.i586 1.0.0-15.fc11
mag 01 18:17:38 Updated: gtk2-devel.i586 2.16.1-4.fc11
mag 01 18:17:40 Updated: elinks.i586 0.12-0.13.pre3.fc11
mag 01 18:17:41 Updated: lcms.i586 1.18-2.fc11
mag 01 22:04:31 Installed: system-config-lvm.noarch 1.1.4-5.1.fc11


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag
SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Mon May  4 04:27:46 2009
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 06:27:46 +0200
Subject: What is happening??
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0905032102k54e22142s3e0cf5581fd43401@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0905031345y1f2d9bfdv6e7ec81c20caf6d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031347t1d58a0c2uc40e79d779b7a139@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031351w43cb49f6safae700d9c9a1925@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031359x1044b6b1n8122bf005f41749e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031417u88eaea1n80976552694c0f4b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905031419q7aad249agd082ebe80950b0ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905032038p5ab3d832wd0f8cd651f0a3ac9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0905032102k54e22142s3e0cf5581fd43401@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0905032127u34641f9bs26f2df29245984a2@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/4 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2009/5/4 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> 2009/5/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> I updated my system and now I am experiencing:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mouse gets blocked and after sometime it starts work again
>>>>>>>> in Firefox I cannot open the sub-menus in any menu, I do not see the
>>>>>>>> list of recently visited sites...
>>>>>>>> Right button is not working, copy and paste is not working.....I am
>>>>>>>> running on nouveau driver but I think that it is connected to
>>>>>>>> something else as I tried also nv driver with no improvement!!!!.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is gnome-desktop the component to filed against???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and mouse is unlocked by pressing some button of keyboard...(not always..)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I find these
>>>> ? ? ? ?lines in dmesg: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? un
>>>> () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #17 0x0804d34f in endutxent ()
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #18 0x00b8ba66 in __libc_start_main ()
>>>> from /lib/libc.so.6
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #19 0x0804cf41 in endutxent ()
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]:
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: Thread 1 (process 2768):
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #0 ?0x00d65416 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #1 ?0x00c13943 in __waitpid_nocancel
>>>> () from /lib/libc.so.6
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #2 ?0x08066a49 in ?? ()
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #3 ?0x08066b41 in ?? ()
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #4 ?<signal handler called>
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #5 ?0x00dc3682 in
>>>> g_type_check_instance_cast () from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #6 ?0x0805a57a in endutxent ()
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #7 ?0x00db2a98 in
>>>> g_cclosure_marshal_VOID(int0_t) ()
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: ? ?from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #8 ?0x00da5352 in g_closure_invoke ()
>>>> from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #9 ?0x00dbabc8 in ?? () from
>>>> /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #10 0x00dbbf7d in g_signal_emit_valist
>>>> () from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #11 0x00dbc406 in g_signal_emit ()
>>>> from /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #12 0x0805cb2c in endutxent ()
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #13 0x001343a2 in ?? () from
>>>> /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #14 0x001361e8 in
>>>> g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #15 0x001397f8 in ?? () from
>>>> /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #16 0x00139caf in g_main_loop_run ()
>>>> from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #17 0x0804d34f in endutxent ()
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #18 0x00b8ba66 in __libc_start_main ()
>>>> from /lib/libc.so.6
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: #19 0x0804cf41 in endutxent ()
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: No symbol table info available.
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: The program is running. ?Quit anyway
>>>> (and detach it)? (y or n) [answered Y; input not from terminal]
>>>> May ?3 23:00:47 Casa gdm[4096]: ******************* END
>>>> **********************************
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and also :
>>>>
>>>> Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>>>> May ?3 23:11:17 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>>>> --
>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>>
>>> and also.....
>>>
>>> Casa kernel: psmouse.c: Failed to enable mouse on isa0060/serio1
>>> May ?3 23:11:01 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>>> May ?3 23:11:17 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>>> May ?3 23:12:58 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>>> May ?3 23:13:37 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>>> May ?3 23:16:27 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>>> May ?3 23:16:33 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: failed to re-enable mouse on
>>> isa0060/serio1
>>> May ?3 23:16:33 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>>>
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>>
>> another hint can be:
>>
>> May ?4 05:23:42 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at
>> isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away.
>> May ?4 05:23:42 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>> May ?4 05:23:51 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>> May ?4 05:24:28 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>> May ?4 05:24:40 Casa kernel: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>>
> latest updates are:
>
> Apr 30 12:50:18 Updated: libgcc.i586 4.4.0-3
> Apr 30 12:50:19 Updated: gnome-python2-extras.i586 2.25.3-3.fc11
> Apr 30 12:50:54 Updated: selinux-policy.noarch 3.6.12-23.fc11
> Apr 30 12:50:57 Updated: kernel-firmware.noarch 2.6.29.1-111.fc11
> Apr 30 12:51:11 Installed: kernel-headers.i586 2.6.29.1-111.fc11
> Apr 30 12:51:55 Updated: selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 3.6.12-23.fc11
> Apr 30 12:51:56 Updated: fedora-gnome-theme.noarch 8.0.0-9.fc11
> Apr 30 12:51:58 Updated: kde-settings.noarch 4.2-8.20090427svn.fc11
> Apr 30 12:51:58 Updated: kde-settings-kdm.noarch 4.2-8.20090427svn.fc11
> Apr 30 12:52:16 Updated: glibc.i686 2.9.90-22
> Apr 30 12:52:16 Updated: libstdc++.i586 4.4.0-3
> Apr 30 12:52:17 Updated: cups-libs.i586 1:1.4-0.b2.15.fc11
> Apr 30 12:52:27 Updated: xulrunner.i586 1.9.1-0.20.beta4.fc11
> Apr 30 12:53:07 Updated: glibc-common.i586 2.9.90-22
> Apr 30 12:53:23 Updated: libgcj.i586 4.4.0-3
> Apr 30 12:53:36 Updated: google-gadgets.i586 0.10.5-6.fc11
> Apr 30 12:53:37 Updated: libgomp.i586 4.4.0-3
> Apr 30 12:54:08 Updated: gdm.i586 1:2.26.1-4.fc11
> Apr 30 12:54:10 Updated: bind-libs.i586 32:9.6.1-0.2.b1.fc11
> Apr 30 12:54:54 Updated: java-1.6.0-openjdk.i586 1:1.6.0.0-20.b14.fc11
> Apr 30 12:55:15 Updated: cups.i586 1:1.4-0.b2.15.fc11
> Apr 30 12:55:16 Updated: google-gadgets-qt.i586 0.10.5-6.fc11
> Apr 30 12:55:20 Updated: opal.i586 3.6.1-3.fc11
> Apr 30 12:55:33 Updated: rhythmbox.i586 0.12.1-1.fc11
> Apr 30 12:55:35 Updated: upstart.i586 0.3.9-24.fc11
> Apr 30 12:55:36 Updated: nash.i586 6.0.83-1.fc11
> Apr 30 12:55:37 Updated: grubby.i586 6.0.83-1.fc11
> Apr 30 12:55:38 Updated: libmodplug.i586 1:0.8.7-1.fc11
> Apr 30 12:55:42 Updated: a52dec.i586 0.7.4-15.fc11
> Apr 30 12:55:50 Updated: gnome-desktop.i586 2.26.1-2.fc11
> Apr 30 12:55:52 Updated: libgfortran.i586 4.4.0-3
> Apr 30 12:55:54 Updated: cpp.i586 4.4.0-3
> Apr 30 12:55:55 Updated: gupnp.i586 0.12.7-1.fc11
> Apr 30 12:55:56 Updated: libmudflap.i586 4.4.0-3
> Apr 30 12:56:22 Updated: ekiga.i586 3.2.0-2.fc11
> Apr 30 12:56:23 Updated: java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin.i586 1:1.6.0.0-20.b14.fc11
> Apr 30 12:56:25 Updated: bind-utils.i586 32:9.6.1-0.2.b1.fc11
> Apr 30 12:56:25 Updated: gdm-user-switch-applet.i586 1:2.26.1-4.fc11
> Apr 30 12:56:37 Updated: yelp.i586 2.26.0-3.fc11
> Apr 30 12:56:40 Updated: tigervnc.i586 0.0.90-0.6.20090427svn3789.fc11
> Apr 30 12:56:41 Updated: tigervnc-server-module.i586
> 0.0.90-0.6.20090427svn3789.fc11
> Apr 30 12:56:45 Updated: nscd.i586 2.9.90-22
> Apr 30 12:56:55 Updated: notification-daemon.i586 0.4.0-3.fc11
> Apr 30 12:56:56 Updated: gnome-python2-libegg.i586 2.25.3-3.fc11
> Apr 30 12:56:56 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-mga.i586 1.4.10-1.fc11
> Apr 30 12:56:57 Updated: gnome-python2-gtkhtml2.i586 2.25.3-3.fc11
> Apr 30 12:56:57 Updated: mkinitrd.i586 6.0.83-1.fc11
> Apr 30 12:57:17 Updated: libstdc++-devel.i586 4.4.0-3
> Apr 30 12:57:27 Installed: glibc-headers.i586 2.9.90-22
> Apr 30 12:57:29 Updated: glibc-devel.i586 2.9.90-22
> Apr 30 12:57:31 Updated: redhat-lsb.i586 3.2-3.fc11
> Apr 30 12:57:31 Updated: rhythmbox-upnp.i586 0.12.1-1.fc11
> Apr 30 12:57:44 Updated: firefox.i586 3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11
> Apr 30 12:57:45 Updated: cups-devel.i586 1:1.4-0.b2.15.fc11
> Apr 30 12:58:50 Installed: kernel-PAE.i686 2.6.29.1-111.fc11
> Apr 30 12:58:56 Updated: gcc.i586 4.4.0-3
> Apr 30 12:58:57 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-ati.i586 6.12.2-7.fc11
> Apr 30 12:59:00 Updated: gcc-c++.i586 4.4.0-3
> apr 30 13:14:37 Installed: gparted.i586 0.4.4-1.fc11
> apr 30 13:14:37 Installed: gpart.i586 0.1h-11.fc11
> apr 30 18:11:10 Updated: openoffice.org-opensymbol-fonts.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:11:13 Updated: autocorr-it.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:11:14 Updated: autocorr-en.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:11:18 Updated: thunderbird-lightning.i586 1.0-0.2.20090302hg.fc11
> apr 30 18:11:23 Updated: openoffice.org-ure.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:13:35 Updated: openoffice.org-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:13:42 Updated: openoffice.org-brand.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:13:51 Updated: openoffice.org-calc-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:14:33 Updated: gnome-desktop.i586 2.26.1-4.fc11
> apr 30 18:14:35 Updated: bind-libs.i586 32:9.6.1-0.3.b1.fc11
> apr 30 18:14:38 Updated: openoffice.org-base-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:14:41 Updated: openoffice.org-impress-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:15:08 Updated: rhythmbox.i586 0.12.1-2.fc11
> apr 30 18:15:29 Updated: openoffice.org-presenter-screen.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:15:37 Updated: openoffice.org-writer-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:15:38 Updated: openoffice.org-graphicfilter.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:15:41 Updated: openoffice.org-math-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:15:42 Updated: ksysguardd.i586 4.2.2-5.fc11
> apr 30 18:15:47 Updated: kdm.i586 4.2.2-5.fc11
> apr 30 18:15:48 Updated: openoffice.org-writer.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:15:50 Updated: openoffice.org-impress.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:15:51 Updated: bind-utils.i586 32:9.6.1-0.3.b1.fc11
> apr 30 18:16:24 Updated: gnome-screensaver.i586 2.26.1-2.fc11
> apr 30 18:17:00 Updated: gnome-settings-daemon.i586 2.26.1-3.fc11
> apr 30 18:17:02 Updated: openoffice.org-calc.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:17:37 Updated: scribus.i586 1.3.5-0.12.beta.fc11
> apr 30 18:17:40 Updated: openoffice.org-draw-core.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:17:42 Updated: openoffice.org-math.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:17:42 Updated: rhythmbox-upnp.i586 0.12.1-2.fc11
> apr 30 18:17:44 Updated: openoffice.org-base.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:17:46 Updated: openoffice.org-xsltfilter.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:18:02 Updated: openoffice.org-langpack-it.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:18:03 Updated: openoffice.org-langpack-en.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:18:18 Updated: openoffice.org-pdfimport.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:18:19 Updated: openoffice.org-draw.i586 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11
> apr 30 18:18:23 Updated: kdebase-workspace-libs.i586 4.2.2-5.fc11
> apr 30 18:18:57 Updated: kdebase-workspace.i586 4.2.2-5.fc11
> mag 01 18:17:01 Updated: fedora-release.noarch 10.93-2
> mag 01 18:17:03 Updated: kde-settings.noarch 4.2-9.20090429svn.fc11
> mag 01 18:17:04 Updated: kde-settings-kdm.noarch 4.2-9.20090429svn.fc11
> mag 01 18:17:06 Updated: grub.i586 0.97-50.fc11
> mag 01 18:17:17 Updated: gtk2.i586 2.16.1-4.fc11
> mag 01 18:17:18 Updated: lcms-libs.i586 1.18-2.fc11
> mag 01 18:17:19 Updated: nss_compat_ossl.i586 0.9.5-3.fc11
> mag 01 18:17:24 Updated: opencv.i586 1.0.0-15.fc11
> mag 01 18:17:38 Updated: gtk2-devel.i586 2.16.1-4.fc11
> mag 01 18:17:40 Updated: elinks.i586 0.12-0.13.pre3.fc11
> mag 01 18:17:41 Updated: lcms.i586 1.18-2.fc11
> mag 01 22:04:31 Installed: system-config-lvm.noarch 1.1.4-5.1.fc11
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
> SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net
>

 Bug 498857 -  erratic mouse with lock-ups

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag
SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Mon May  4 04:54:03 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 00:54:03 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FE74EB.5080906@cox.net>

On 05/03/2009 03:45 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-11-fail-because-of-anaconda/
>
> I wrote a blog post regarding issues I have with Fedora 11 anaconda installer.
> How is your experience using Fedora anaconda installer with Fedora 11
> beta and preview releases?
>
> Cheers.
>
I have gotten preview to install but current rawhide with newer anaconda 
won't boot past what looks like mouse detection or radeon setup.  Have 
bz'd it as

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=49882

tho this may not be anaconda, I have no idea what else to bz the strange 
behavior against.



From affix at FedoraProject.org  Mon May  4 05:54:10 2009
From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 06:54:10 +0100
Subject: Rawhide Update on Fedora 10 Breaks Boot
In-Reply-To: <20090504040001.GB14284@wolff.to>
References: <b5b999040905031748v26865311i5328c2e72b749ef7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090504040001.GB14284@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <b5b999040905032254k20e4b162ja5d8178942741ac8@mail.gmail.com>

I have an ATI Radeon 9500 pro, Your lucky I just get the fedora message. I
left it for an hour solid and still had no luck.

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:

> On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 01:48:28 +0100,
>  Keiran Smith <affix at FedoraProject.org> wrote:
> > Hey,
> >   I upgraded my system using
> >
> > yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide upgrade -y
> >
> > After I restarted my system The boot screen would freeze and refuse to
> boot
> > the system. I had no error. After numerous attempts to recover my system
> I
> > had to re-install fedora from disk.
>
> What kind of video card do you have?
>
> Did you try booting with the nomodeset kernel parameter?
>
> (I have similar symptoms with my ATI 9200 when I don't use nomodeset.
> The system eventually boots into X, but the screen is black until X starts
> and vt's don't work. With nomodeset things work fine.)
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Keiran Smith
- Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - <affix at fedoraproject.org>
- Free Software Foundation Associate - <keiran.smith at member.fsf.org>
- http://keiran-smith.net
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/c9f2e76a/attachment.htm>

From markkuk at tuubi.net  Mon May  4 07:34:57 2009
From: markkuk at tuubi.net (Markku Kolkka)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:34:57 +0300
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905041034.57274.markkuk@tuubi.net>

Valent Turkovic kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika sunnuntai, 3. 
toukokuuta 2009):
> http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-11
>-fail-because-of-anaconda/
>
> I wrote a blog post regarding issues I have with Fedora 11
> anaconda installer. How is your experience using Fedora
> anaconda installer with Fedora 11 beta and preview releases?

It's unable to deal with my LVM-over-dmraid disk configuration: 
all versions before preview crashed during the installation 
(bugs #491348, #494186, #494124, #495356, #495687), the preview 
was even worse as it pretended to go through the installation 
process and left the system in an unbootable state. After 
restoring GRUB there was no sign of the new installation.

-- 
 Markku Kolkka
 markku.kolkka at iki.fi



From no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org  Mon May  4 08:52:46 2009
From: no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org (=?UTF-8?B?c3BvZmZsZXk=?=)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:52:46 +0200
Subject: F11 Preview : everything OK but Virtualbox
In-Reply-To: <gtk7pd$3lg$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <04d923257a674a58949ed1843b694f4e@fcp.surfsite.org>

> 
> sean darcy wrote:
> E.B. A. wrote:
> 
> > Guys,
> > everything works fine now (thanks to some of you) except for Virtualbox:
> > - Skype works great, Audio and Webcam are working. I needed to do some
> > tricks but the final result is good.
> > - nVidia drivers are ok.
> > - Compiz (in gnome) is impressive, fast and reliable.
> > - openOffice, KDE ecc. work ok. I have to say that KDE is not really
> > usable in my opinion, but most probably it's just me not used to it.
> > - User admin, file admin etc is ok, for what I can tell.
> > - I never had any serious problem. Somehow after I installed the nVidia
> > drivers the reboot started to work and does not hang up anymore.
> > 
> > My only problem is VirtualBox. Whenever I try to run a new virtual
> > session, somehow, it just stop working. I installed the dkms but somehow
> > it doesn't work. Still, I think it's because of something I do, I
> > haven't really done any troubleshoot.
> > 
> > Overall, I would definitely suggest to move to Fedora 11.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Enrico Accenti
> > 
> > 
> 
> For VirtualBox, is this what you're seeing?
> 
> http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/3872 [1]
> 
> sean
That sums up what is happening to me.  Version 2.2.0 works fine, you just need to download the generic Linux version, set the .run file to be executable and run it.  You should then have a working Virtualbox.
I use Virtualbox because I have been for two years and, unless there is a tool to convert my virtual machines to the built in Fedora Virtualisation, then I will need to continue to use it.


Links:
------
[1] http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/3872


-- 
This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org
https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=342607&topic_id=70665&forum=12#forumpost342607
If you think, this is spam, please report this to webmaster at fcp.surfsite.org and/or blame spoffley at gmail.com.



From debarshi.ray at gmail.com  Mon May  4 09:35:09 2009
From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:05:09 +0530
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <200905041034.57274.markkuk@tuubi.net>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905041034.57274.markkuk@tuubi.net>
Message-ID: <3170f42f0905040235i6efe9bfdm6f85eef1a69e636f@mail.gmail.com>

> the preview
> was even worse as it pretended to go through the installation
> process and left the system in an unbootable state. After
> restoring GRUB there was no sign of the new installation.

This is one of the problems I encountered with Fedora 11 preview
x86_64 on my Apple Macbook, which I dual boot with MacOS and Fedora.

Intially I tried a 'create custom layout' which left my Fedora
installation unbootable. (I have details of the chosen disk layout on
my desktop.) After a few attempts, I tried 'replace existing Linux
installation' with the same results. While in my first attempt I
selected an encrypted /home, I ticked the 'encrypt system' checkbox
for my last attempt.

What do you mean by "restoring GRUB there was no sign of the new
installation"? Although I did not tinker with GRUB, I booted into
rescue mode and found the Fedora 11 files inside /mnt/sysimage.

Is there a bug filed which I can track? Or should I file a new one? If
it is the latter case, I am inclined to give unencrypted filesystems a
shot before filing anything.

Happy hacking,
Debarshi
-- 
One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an
imaginary part.
    -- Andrew Koenig



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Mon May  4 10:28:27 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 13:28:27 +0300
Subject: Problems with preupgrade
Message-ID: <49FEC34B.8070603@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

I tried to run preupgrade to update my fc10 x86_64 system to rawhide. 
The process successfully downloaded 1.8 G of updates but the anaconda 
install failed. Among other symptoms it says that turnOnSwap was called 
from upgrade.py line 313 with 1 non-keyword argument but needs 2
What is more confusing is that it said that it was installing fc9 
modules and updating fc10 modules even though nearly everything in 
/var/cache/yum/preupgrade/packages is fc11.



From psmith at fedoraproject.org  Mon May  4 10:36:21 2009
From: psmith at fedoraproject.org (psmith)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:36:21 +0100
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <200905041034.57274.markkuk@tuubi.net>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905041034.57274.markkuk@tuubi.net>
Message-ID: <49FEC525.6010905@fedoraproject.org>

Markku Kolkka wrote:
> Valent Turkovic kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika sunnuntai, 3. 
> toukokuuta 2009):
>   
>> http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-11
>> -fail-because-of-anaconda/
>>
>> I wrote a blog post regarding issues I have with Fedora 11
>> anaconda installer. How is your experience using Fedora
>> anaconda installer with Fedora 11 beta and preview releases?
>>     
>
> It's unable to deal with my LVM-over-dmraid disk configuration: 
> all versions before preview crashed during the installation 
> (bugs #491348, #494186, #494124, #495356, #495687), the preview 
> was even worse as it pretended to go through the installation 
> process and left the system in an unbootable state. After 
> restoring GRUB there was no sign of the new installation.
>
>   
i had the anaconda raid problems with the beta i686 and x86-64 releases 
when trying to install onto raid0 dmraid (nvidia) but the preview i686 
release worked perfectly, even choosing a custom layout! i'll be trying 
out the x86-64 preview later this week so i'll report if there is any 
problems with it but i can't forsee any :)

phil



From debarshi.ray at gmail.com  Mon May  4 10:48:10 2009
From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:18:10 +0530
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <49FEC525.6010905@fedoraproject.org>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905041034.57274.markkuk@tuubi.net>
	<49FEC525.6010905@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <3170f42f0905040348i927d2dbn61c623690ae057cc@mail.gmail.com>

> i had the anaconda raid problems with the beta i686 and x86-64 releases when
> trying to install onto raid0 dmraid (nvidia) but the preview i686 release
> worked perfectly, even choosing a custom layout! i'll be trying out the
> x86-64 preview later this week so i'll report if there is any problems with
> it but i can't forsee any :)

Were you using encrypted filesystems?

Cheerio,
Debarshi
-- 
One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an
imaginary part.
    -- Andrew Koenig



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Mon May  4 11:29:37 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 05:29:37 -0600
Subject: Mouse
Message-ID: <1241436577.6905.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

My mouse will not switch from left-handed to right-handed.  As you know,
I am inexperienced with the back end of Fedora, so I am completely in
the dark when it comes to trying to explain what is going on.  May I
please get some help with understanding what is going on.
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From psmith at fedoraproject.org  Mon May  4 11:44:22 2009
From: psmith at fedoraproject.org (psmith)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 12:44:22 +0100
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <3170f42f0905040348i927d2dbn61c623690ae057cc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>	<200905041034.57274.markkuk@tuubi.net>	<49FEC525.6010905@fedoraproject.org>
	<3170f42f0905040348i927d2dbn61c623690ae057cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FED516.6020001@fedoraproject.org>

Debarshi Ray wrote:
>> i had the anaconda raid problems with the beta i686 and x86-64 releases when
>> trying to install onto raid0 dmraid (nvidia) but the preview i686 release
>> worked perfectly, even choosing a custom layout! i'll be trying out the
>> x86-64 preview later this week so i'll report if there is any problems with
>> it but i can't forsee any :)
>>     
>
> Were you using encrypted filesystems?
>
> Cheerio,
> Debarshi
>   
i'm pretty sure i did encrypt /home, but i will confirm later today when 
i return home from work

phil



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Mon May  4 12:41:35 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:41:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: x86_64 beta:  "File descriptor 3 (/lib64/libnspr4.so) leaked on
 lvdisplay invocation"
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905040839530.24466@localhost.localdomain>


  hi, i'm still on the beta release, typed "lvdisplay" and got:

File descriptor 3 (/lib64/libnspr4.so) leaked on lvdisplay invocation.
Parent PID 24420: bash
File descriptor 4 (/lib64/libnspr4.so) leaked on lvdisplay invocation.
Parent PID 24420: bash

after which i got the correct LV output.  a quick google and bugzilla
didn't turn up anything.  is this a known issue?

rday
--


========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Mon May  4 12:53:43 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 06:53:43 -0600
Subject: Mouse
In-Reply-To: <1241436577.6905.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1241436577.6905.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241441623.11525.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 05:29 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> My mouse will not switch from left-handed to right-handed.  As you know,
> I am inexperienced with the back end of Fedora, so I am completely in
> the dark when it comes to trying to explain what is going on.  May I
> please get some help with understanding what is going on.
> -

It's not your inexperience with Fedora's back end. This really does look
like it's just plain broken. Confirmed to be not working on my laptop as
well.

We should bugzilla...

Cheers,

Chris


--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Mon May  4 12:56:13 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 06:56:13 -0600
Subject: Mouse
In-Reply-To: <1241441623.11525.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1241436577.6905.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241441623.11525.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241441773.6905.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 06:53 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 05:29 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > My mouse will not switch from left-handed to right-handed.  As you know,
> > I am inexperienced with the back end of Fedora, so I am completely in
> > the dark when it comes to trying to explain what is going on.  May I
> > please get some help with understanding what is going on.
> > -
> 
> It's not your inexperience with Fedora's back end. This really does look
> like it's just plain broken. Confirmed to be not working on my laptop as
> well.
> 
> We should bugzilla...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> --
> =============================
> "You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
> I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"
> 
> -- George Bernard Shaw
> Thanks.  Are you going to call so we can pray.
> 
> 
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Mon May  4 13:47:38 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Mon,  4 May 2009 13:47:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090504 changes
Message-ID: <20090504134738.B26141F820B@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Mon May  4 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From mclasen at redhat.com  Mon May  4 13:56:52 2009
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:56:52 -0400
Subject: Mouse
In-Reply-To: <1241436577.6905.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1241436577.6905.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241445412.2399.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 05:29 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> My mouse will not switch from left-handed to right-handed.  As you know,
> I am inexperienced with the back end of Fedora, so I am completely in
> the dark when it comes to trying to explain what is going on.  May I
> please get some help with understanding what is going on.

How are you trying to switch it ?
How are you determining that it doesn't work ?
It works fine for me...



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon May  4 14:10:46 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 10:10:46 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>  <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Message-ID: <1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 20:08 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> I don't have any warm fuzzies about how good F11 is going to be;
> I'm afraid that anaconda's instability has blocked a lot of the
> testing we'd normally get.

Fair point.  I'm optimistic with the number of Test Days and the
increasing use of live images for testing.  That said, there is a
significant hurdle to overcome for calming down the installer.

Thanks,
James

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/b1bdbb1f/attachment.sig>

From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Mon May  4 14:14:23 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 10:14:23 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <49FE74EB.5080906@cox.net>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FE74EB.5080906@cox.net>
Message-ID: <49FEF83F.3090004@cox.net>

On 05/04/2009 12:54 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> <snip>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=49882
>
> tho this may not be anaconda, I have no idea what else to bz the strange
> behavior against.
>

Updated this bz today.  Found that current anaconda is not initiating 
LVM in the initrd (at least for me).



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Mon May  4 14:15:24 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:15:24 +0100
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>

>> I don't have any warm fuzzies about how good F11 is going to be;
>> I'm afraid that anaconda's instability has blocked a lot of the
>> testing we'd normally get.
>
> Fair point. ?I'm optimistic with the number of Test Days and the
> increasing use of live images for testing. ?That said, there is a
> significant hurdle to overcome for calming down the installer.

I agree the test days have helped but its concerning that I still
can't do an install with custom partitions with the preview release.
And there doesn't seem to be a lot of traction on the bug to fix it
before release.

Peter



From jw-bennett at comcast.net  Mon May  4 14:38:58 2009
From: jw-bennett at comcast.net (James W. Bennett)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:38:58 -0500
Subject: Anaconda
Message-ID: <49FEFE02.40905@comcast.net>

Another annoying thing about the anaconda installer, it insist on taking 
my whole 1Terabit hardrive. I have tried over and over to install on a 
smaller partition but in always takes the complete drive.  Or is there 
something I am doing wrong.



From mefoster at gmail.com  Mon May  4 14:38:36 2009
From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:38:36 +0100
Subject: Fonts going funky in GTK apps
Message-ID: <f58861e00905040738x235399cco1fbcab0e65789e75@mail.gmail.com>

I'm using KDE on (soon-to-be)F11, and I've been noticing that
occasionally, the fonts go funky in Firefox and/or OpenOffice.Org.
It's hard to describe, but basically some characters get replaced by
screwed-up-looking box things. Generally, restarting the app in
question works.

I've attached a couple of recent screenshots showing this in action.
Is it just me? What component should I even file against?

MEF

-- 
Mary Ellen Foster  --  http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/
ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: firefox-fonts.png
Type: image/png
Size: 152454 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/c8580c3e/attachment.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: openoffice-fonts.png
Type: image/png
Size: 196532 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/c8580c3e/attachment-0001.png>

From cra at WPI.EDU  Mon May  4 14:42:31 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:42:31 -0400
Subject: Fonts going funky in GTK apps
In-Reply-To: <f58861e00905040738x235399cco1fbcab0e65789e75@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f58861e00905040738x235399cco1fbcab0e65789e75@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090504144230.GA15396@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 03:38:36PM +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> I'm using KDE on (soon-to-be)F11, and I've been noticing that
> occasionally, the fonts go funky in Firefox and/or OpenOffice.Org.
> It's hard to describe, but basically some characters get replaced by
> screwed-up-looking box things. Generally, restarting the app in
> question works.
> 
> I've attached a couple of recent screenshots showing this in action.
> Is it just me? What component should I even file against?

Intel graphics?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495323

or possibly related:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498572



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon May  4 14:43:42 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 10:43:42 -0400
Subject: Anaconda
In-Reply-To: <49FEFE02.40905@comcast.net>
References: <49FEFE02.40905@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1241448223.2726.31.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 09:38 -0500, James W. Bennett wrote:
> Another annoying thing about the anaconda installer, it insist on taking 
> my whole 1Terabit hardrive. I have tried over and over to install on a 
> smaller partition but in always takes the complete drive.  Or is there 
> something I am doing wrong.

If you select "Use entire disk" or "Replace existing partitions" it will
likely [re]use the entire disk.  Given your use case, you'll likely want
to manually format the disk and choose partition sizes that best meet
your needs.  At the first disk partition screen, be sure to select
"Review and make changes".

Thanks,
James

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/4dc9bcd2/attachment.sig>

From mefoster at gmail.com  Mon May  4 14:48:26 2009
From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:48:26 +0100
Subject: Fonts going funky in GTK apps
In-Reply-To: <20090504144230.GA15396@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <f58861e00905040738x235399cco1fbcab0e65789e75@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20090504144230.GA15396@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <f58861e00905040748l3e0660d2x491743885efe96e5@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/4 Chuck Anderson <cra at wpi.edu>:
> On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 03:38:36PM +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
>> I'm using KDE on (soon-to-be)F11, and I've been noticing that
>> occasionally, the fonts go funky in Firefox and/or OpenOffice.Org.
>> It's hard to describe, but basically some characters get replaced by
>> screwed-up-looking box things. Generally, restarting the app in
>> question works.
>
> Intel graphics?
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495323

Yes, I have Intel graphics, and that looks like exactly my problem -- thanks!

MEF

-- 
Mary Ellen Foster  --  http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/
ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon May  4 14:49:09 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 10:49:09 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241448549.2726.40.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 15:15 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> >> I don't have any warm fuzzies about how good F11 is going to be;
> >> I'm afraid that anaconda's instability has blocked a lot of the
> >> testing we'd normally get.
> >
> > Fair point.  I'm optimistic with the number of Test Days and the
> > increasing use of live images for testing.  That said, there is a
> > significant hurdle to overcome for calming down the installer.
> 
> I agree the test days have helped but its concerning that I still
> can't do an install with custom partitions with the preview release.
> And there doesn't seem to be a lot of traction on the bug to fix it
> before release.

I agree Peter.  From my perspective things have been improving with
anaconda.  However, the exposure continues to be the previous disk
layout especially those involving dmraid.

When filing a bug, please be as specific as possible when outlining the
"steps to reproduce."  Order is very important for the custom disk
partitioning.  If a traceback occurs, the resulting traceback file
(/tmp/anacdump.txt) and any screenshots are tremendously helpful.  

In the case of bug#492154, it appears that the previous OSX disk layout
may be the culprit.  I'm reaching out to the anaconda-devel folks for
advice on further pinpointing this issue.  I'll hopefully follow-up with
more information.

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/ad40d4c0/attachment.sig>

From bruno at wolff.to  Mon May  4 14:56:04 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:56:04 -0500
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <49FEC525.6010905@fedoraproject.org>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905041034.57274.markkuk@tuubi.net>
	<49FEC525.6010905@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20090504145604.GA7834@wolff.to>

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 11:36:21 +0100,
  psmith <psmith at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> i had the anaconda raid problems with the beta i686 and x86-64 releases  
> when trying to install onto raid0 dmraid (nvidia) but the preview i686  
> release worked perfectly, even choosing a custom layout! i'll be trying  
> out the x86-64 preview later this week so i'll report if there is any  
> problems with it but i can't forsee any :)

You might want to test a network install instead as that will use a later
version of anaconda (currently 11.5.0.48-2). There were a lot of bugs
addressed in between that and 11.5.0.47-1.



From bruno at wolff.to  Mon May  4 14:58:20 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:58:20 -0500
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090504145820.GB7834@wolff.to>

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 15:15:24 +0100,
  Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree the test days have helped but its concerning that I still
> can't do an install with custom partitions with the preview release.
> And there doesn't seem to be a lot of traction on the bug to fix it
> before release.

Have you tried using a boot.iso image to do a network install? There
were a lot of bugs addressed in anaconda-11.5.0.48-1 (-2 is now available)
since the preview image.



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Mon May  4 14:58:15 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:58:15 +0100
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <1241448549.2726.40.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241448549.2726.40.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0905040758w6ef5f0d5r8a715092a05f6737@mail.gmail.com>

>> >> I don't have any warm fuzzies about how good F11 is going to be;
>> >> I'm afraid that anaconda's instability has blocked a lot of the
>> >> testing we'd normally get.
>> >
>> > Fair point. ?I'm optimistic with the number of Test Days and the
>> > increasing use of live images for testing. ?That said, there is a
>> > significant hurdle to overcome for calming down the installer.
>>
>> I agree the test days have helped but its concerning that I still
>> can't do an install with custom partitions with the preview release.
>> And there doesn't seem to be a lot of traction on the bug to fix it
>> before release.
>
> I agree Peter. ?From my perspective things have been improving with
> anaconda. ?However, the exposure continues to be the previous disk
> layout especially those involving dmraid.
>
> When filing a bug, please be as specific as possible when outlining the
> "steps to reproduce." ?Order is very important for the custom disk
> partitioning. ?If a traceback occurs, the resulting traceback file
> (/tmp/anacdump.txt) and any screenshots are tremendously helpful.
>
> In the case of bug#492154, it appears that the previous OSX disk layout
> may be the culprit. ?I'm reaching out to the anaconda-devel folks for
> advice on further pinpointing this issue. ?I'll hopefully follow-up with
> more information.

Interesting, if that was caused by OSX disk layouts maybe some of the
bugs that were marked as dupes of it should be reopened. Or at least
the contents of the various bug reports re-examined for information.
The original bug I filed was marked as a dupe of that and I've since
put updates on that ticket but haven't been told that its not relevant
or to open a new bug.

Peter



From johannbg at hi.is  Mon May  4 14:59:07 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 14:59:07 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>
	<5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FF02BB.7030900@hi.is>

Peter Robinson wrote:
>>> I don't have any warm fuzzies about how good F11 is going to be;
>>> I'm afraid that anaconda's instability has blocked a lot of the
>>> testing we'd normally get.
>>>       
>> Fair point.  I'm optimistic with the number of Test Days and the
>> increasing use of live images for testing.  That said, there is a
>> significant hurdle to overcome for calming down the installer.
>>     
>
> I agree the test days have helped but its concerning that I still
> can't do an install with custom partitions with the preview release.
> And there doesn't seem to be a lot of traction on the bug to fix it
> before release.
>   

I did test custom partitioning a bit extensively and actually one of the 
Anaconda maintainer thought I
was nuts testing this and claimed this would never be an end user case.

Which btw is true but then again no normal end user uses the custom 
partition layout.

I came across few filed only one ( Bug 498064 ) which I could reproduce 
easily
seemed to related to the tenth partition ( /dev/sda10 I also have a 
flaky dvd drive ).   

Try deleting partition(s) before playing with them in custom partition 
layout a workaround I've used
when Anaconda and custom partitioning has not been playing nice.

Now Anaconda in preview is in much better shape then beta but is not 
quite there yet.

So far team Anaconda has gotten the installer in usable state before final.

We just need to retest with newer anaconda builds when we can and update 
our reports if the issue still exists.
( Comment on the report either that the issue is still present or fixed 
in x version of anaconda )

I also performed an upgrade just yesterday through anaconda ( preview 
dvd i586) and it went with out a hitch
( I actually had expected anaconda to fail since there where some 
rpmfusion packages installed )

However after I updated the machine after the upgrade and rebooted, grub 
was messed up for some reason
and I was left with just "GRUB" on the screen which leaves me a bit 
worried I fixed it by rescue booting and reinstall grub
but that is something that a novice end user certainly is unable to 
perform or do..

JBG
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: johannbg.vcf
Type: text/x-vcard
Size: 356 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/17b1cef0/attachment.vcf>

From ajax at redhat.com  Mon May  4 15:04:46 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:04:46 -0400
Subject: F11 monitor configuration / virtualization
In-Reply-To: <49FA62E6.9030309@conversis.de>
References: <49F9FFF8.1060701@conversis.de>
	<1241121179.2766.42.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<49FA62E6.9030309@conversis.de>
Message-ID: <1241449486.2766.152.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 04:48 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
> On 04/30/2009 09:52 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 21:46 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> Where did the monitor configuration go in f11? I've booted a virtualized
> >> instance of F11 using kvm but can only get a maximum resolution of 800x600.
> >> The monitor is displayed as "unknown" and there seems to be no way to
> >> select one (like for example a generic 1280x1024 one).
> >> I'm also running an instance of WinXP using kvm and there I get higher
> >> resolutions out of the box.
> >
> > What X driver do you end up using?  What does the X log look like?
> >
> > There's a hack in the cirrus driver to detect when we're running under
> > kvm, but naturally it only works if you're running a sufficiently new
> > kvm.  There is no equivalent hack in the vesa driver, but there
> > certainly could be.
> 
> I just rebuilt the latest f11 qemu/kvm for my f10 host system and now I can 
> get to 1024x768x24 or 1280x1027x16 but not higher.

Right, like I said: the KVM in the host needs to be sufficiently new to
expose the hint to the guest that it's a virtualized device.

> According to the log the cirrus "card" is only equipped with 4mb of video ram.
> Could this be a limiting factor? 4mb seems to be a rather low amount of ram
> these days for a video card.

It is, but that's what you get for emulating a cirrus chip.  It's just
not that capable of a design.

kvm -std-vga will get you a plain vesa device that should be able to do
some higher resolutions, but without any particularly good
autoconfiguration hacks.  There's also some work being done upstream to
get a more capable video device into qemu.

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/414c492d/attachment.sig>

From michal at harddata.com  Mon May  4 15:15:04 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:15:04 -0600
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <49FF02BB.7030900@hi.is>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FF02BB.7030900@hi.is>
Message-ID: <20090504151504.GB24686@mail.harddata.com>

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 02:59:07PM +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> 
> Anaconda maintainer thought I
> was nuts testing this and claimed this would never be an end user case.
> 
> Which btw is true but then again no normal end user uses the custom 
> partition layout.

If you really mean to say that "normal users do not use custom
partitions layouts" then I know mostly "abnormal" users.  If
anaconda has troubles handling that then it is even worse broken
than I was afraid of.

   Michal



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon May  4 15:20:30 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:20:30 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0905040758w6ef5f0d5r8a715092a05f6737@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241448549.2726.40.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040758w6ef5f0d5r8a715092a05f6737@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241450430.2726.44.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 15:58 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> >> >> I don't have any warm fuzzies about how good F11 is going to be;
> >> >> I'm afraid that anaconda's instability has blocked a lot of the
> >> >> testing we'd normally get.
> >> >
> >> > Fair point.  I'm optimistic with the number of Test Days and the
> >> > increasing use of live images for testing.  That said, there is a
> >> > significant hurdle to overcome for calming down the installer.
> >>
> >> I agree the test days have helped but its concerning that I still
> >> can't do an install with custom partitions with the preview release.
> >> And there doesn't seem to be a lot of traction on the bug to fix it
> >> before release.
> >
> > I agree Peter.  From my perspective things have been improving with
> > anaconda.  However, the exposure continues to be the previous disk
> > layout especially those involving dmraid.
> >
> > When filing a bug, please be as specific as possible when outlining the
> > "steps to reproduce."  Order is very important for the custom disk
> > partitioning.  If a traceback occurs, the resulting traceback file
> > (/tmp/anacdump.txt) and any screenshots are tremendously helpful.
> >
> > In the case of bug#492154, it appears that the previous OSX disk layout
> > may be the culprit.  I'm reaching out to the anaconda-devel folks for
> > advice on further pinpointing this issue.  I'll hopefully follow-up with
> > more information.
> 
> Interesting, if that was caused by OSX disk layouts maybe some of the
> bugs that were marked as dupes of it should be reopened. Or at least
> the contents of the various bug reports re-examined for information.
> The original bug I filed was marked as a dupe of that and I've since
> put updates on that ticket but haven't been told that its not relevant
> or to open a new bug.

Let's see what comes out of initial triage efforts for this bug.  Stay
tuned ...

Thanks,
James

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/32e1d80c/attachment.sig>

From ajax at redhat.com  Mon May  4 15:29:37 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:29:37 -0400
Subject: Fonts going funky in GTK apps
In-Reply-To: <f58861e00905040748l3e0660d2x491743885efe96e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f58861e00905040738x235399cco1fbcab0e65789e75@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090504144230.GA15396@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<f58861e00905040748l3e0660d2x491743885efe96e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241450977.2766.178.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 15:48 +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> 2009/5/4 Chuck Anderson <cra at wpi.edu>:
> > On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 03:38:36PM +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> >> I'm using KDE on (soon-to-be)F11, and I've been noticing that
> >> occasionally, the fonts go funky in Firefox and/or OpenOffice.Org.
> >> It's hard to describe, but basically some characters get replaced by
> >> screwed-up-looking box things. Generally, restarting the app in
> >> question works.
> >
> > Intel graphics?
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495323
> 
> Yes, I have Intel graphics, and that looks like exactly my problem -- thanks!

I really, really wish that I had any reliable reproducer for this
problem.  None of my Intel machines seem to trigger it.

If anyone can come up with, say, a specific web page that introduces
this corruption every time, I'd be _thrilled_.

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/4c9f3be2/attachment.sig>

From wwoods at redhat.com  Mon May  4 15:43:25 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:43:25 -0400
Subject: Problems with preupgrade
In-Reply-To: <49FEC34B.8070603@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <49FEC34B.8070603@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <1241451805.15774.10.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 13:28 +0300, shmuel siegel wrote:
> I tried to run preupgrade to update my fc10 x86_64 system to rawhide. 
> The process successfully downloaded 1.8 G of updates but the anaconda 
> install failed. Among other symptoms it says that turnOnSwap was called 
> from upgrade.py line 313 with 1 non-keyword argument but needs 2

This is a bug in anaconda-11.5.0.48 - the current rawhide anaconda
build. Preview works better. The current preupgrade package in F9/F10
probably doesn't list Preview in the available install targets, but wait
a day or two for preupgrade-1.1.0pre3 to hit updates-testing.

> What is more confusing is that it said that it was installing fc9 
> modules and updating fc10 modules even though nearly everything in 
> /var/cache/yum/preupgrade/packages is fc11.

There are some .fc10 packages in the F11 repos, so that's not completely
unexpected. Where did you see anything about .fc9 packages?

-w



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon May  4 16:14:38 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 12:14:38 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-07 - Fedora Test Day - Virtualization
Message-ID: <1241453678.2726.76.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

Greetings folks,

For those subscribed to fedora-virt-list, you may already have seen Mark
McLoughlin's announcement [1] of this weeks Virtualization test day.
Fedora 11 hosts a number of virtualization improvements, including:

      * Features/KVM PCI Device Assignment
      * Features/KVM and QEMU merge
      * Features/SVirt Mandatory Access Control
      * Features/VirtImprovedConsole
      * Features/VirtVNCAuth

We plan to review+test the F11 features, as well as use this an
opportunity to lay the ground work for future virtualization testing.
Testing has been divided into several test areas which incorporate
features as well as existing functionality (see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-05-07_Virtualization#How_to_test.3F).  During the next few days we plan to create additional test cases for the current test areas.

I invite you to join #fedora-qa this Thursday, May 7 2009 to review the
Fedora 11 Virtualization features [2] and help iron out integration
issues.  I'm expecting a good turn out this week from the virt
developers, which means we could use strong representation from testers.
While a live image will be available, testing against an installed
F11/rawhide system is recommended.  

Stay tuned for more details at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-05-07_Virtualization.

Thanks,
James

[1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-April/msg00287.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:F11_Virt_Features

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/6fcea696/attachment.sig>

From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Mon May  4 16:25:21 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:25:21 +0300
Subject: Problems with preupgrade
In-Reply-To: <1241451805.15774.10.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
References: <49FEC34B.8070603@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<1241451805.15774.10.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <49FF16F1.3090107@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Will Woods wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 13:28 +0300, shmuel siegel wrote:
>   
>> What is more confusing is that it said that it was installing fc9 
>> modules and updating fc10 modules even though nearly everything in 
>> /var/cache/yum/preupgrade/packages is fc11.
>>     
>
> There are some .fc10 packages in the F11 repos, so that's not completely
> unexpected. Where did you see anything about .fc9 packages?
>
> -w
>
>   
Could be a misinterpretation on my part, but part of the error dump was 
the contents of /mnt/sysimage/root.install.log which said things like 
"Installing setup-2.6.14-1.fc9.noarch"

As a side note, I couldn't save the error file on the local machine 
because the save dialog couldn't find any local disks. The dumped file 
definitely indicated that it found all of the partitions on my disks.



From usul80 at gmail.com  Mon May  4 16:24:13 2009
From: usul80 at gmail.com (usul80 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:24:13 +0000
Subject: F11 Preview : everything OK but Virtualbox
In-Reply-To: <20090502171640.GA1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <a1d3651e0905020913h450175dbi3416378a56389927@mail.gmail.com><20090502171640.GA1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <760548114-1241454322-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-142641614-@bxe1243.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Simply because I am used to virtualbox. In any case I tried to use fedora's virtualization tool and I can't get pass the input of the name of the virtual machine. When the window pops up the "continue" button is not active. Any suggestion?
Thanks,
Enrico Accenti
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Anderson <cra at WPI.EDU>

Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:16:40 
To: <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: F11 Preview : everything OK but Virtualbox


On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:13:37AM -0500, E.B. A. wrote:
> My only problem is VirtualBox. Whenever I try to run a new virtual session,
> somehow, it just stop working. I installed the dkms but somehow it doesn't
> work. Still, I think it's because of something I do, I haven't really done
> any troubleshoot.

I'm curious why you use VirtualBox instead of the built-in 
virtualization solution in Fedora, yum groupinstall Virtualization

-- 
fedora-test-list mailing list
fedora-test-list at redhat.com
To unsubscribe: 
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon May  4 16:38:40 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:38:40 -0700
Subject: copy paste problem.
In-Reply-To: <gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com>
	<gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1241455120.2923.104.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 01:51 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adrin Jalali wrote:
> > I remember a copy paste problem which was (I think at least) solved, but I
> > can see it again using rawhide. When you copy something in an application,
> > by the time you close that application it's being erased from the
> > clipboard. So you should keep the source application open till you paste
> > that somewhere else.
> > 
> > Is it supposed to be normal behavior?
> 
> This is just how the X11 clipboard works. The X11 clipboard contents are
> stored within the application "owning" the clipboard, if you close it, poof,
> there goes the clipboard. You need to run a clipboard manager such as
> Klipper, Glipper etc., which fixes this by taking ownership of the
> clipboard automatically.

Adrin is right, though - GNOME's had a built-in clipboard manager for
several releases now, so this works with most applications
transparently. 

However, it still seems to be working for me, with today's Rawhide. I
just tested by copying something from gedit, closing gedit, and then
pasting it into a gnome-terminal. Worked OK.

I can't find any references for this, though (I learned about it via
Planet GNOME eons ago), so I wouldn't know how to tell what's gone wrong
for Adrin.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From drago01 at gmail.com  Mon May  4 16:43:38 2009
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:43:38 +0200
Subject: copy paste problem.
In-Reply-To: <1241455120.2923.104.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com>
	<gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1241455120.2923.104.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0905040943q65bde863yae52747397ccc5ac@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 01:51 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Adrin Jalali wrote:
>> > I remember a copy paste problem which was (I think at least) solved, but I
>> > can see it again using rawhide. When you copy something in an application,
>> > by the time you close that application it's being erased from the
>> > clipboard. So you should keep the source application open till you paste
>> > that somewhere else.
>> >
>> > Is it supposed to be normal behavior?
>>
>> This is just how the X11 clipboard works. The X11 clipboard contents are
>> stored within the application "owning" the clipboard, if you close it, poof,
>> there goes the clipboard. You need to run a clipboard manager such as
>> Klipper, Glipper etc., which fixes this by taking ownership of the
>> clipboard automatically.
>
> Adrin is right, though - GNOME's had a built-in clipboard manager for
> several releases now, so this works with most applications
> transparently.
>
> However, it still seems to be working for me, with today's Rawhide. I
> just tested by copying something from gedit, closing gedit, and then
> pasting it into a gnome-terminal. Worked OK.
>
> I can't find any references for this, though (I learned about it via
> Planet GNOME eons ago), so I wouldn't know how to tell what's gone wrong
> for Adrin.

This only works for the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V way.
If you select a text and try to paste using the middle mouse button it
only works when the source app is open.



From wwoods at redhat.com  Mon May  4 16:44:36 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 12:44:36 -0400
Subject: Problems with preupgrade
In-Reply-To: <49FF16F1.3090107@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <49FEC34B.8070603@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<1241451805.15774.10.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<49FF16F1.3090107@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <1241455476.15774.13.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 19:25 +0300, shmuel siegel wrote:
> Will Woods wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 13:28 +0300, shmuel siegel wrote:
> >   
> >> What is more confusing is that it said that it was installing fc9 
> >> modules and updating fc10 modules even though nearly everything in 
> >> /var/cache/yum/preupgrade/packages is fc11.
> >
> > There are some .fc10 packages in the F11 repos, so that's not completely
> > unexpected. Where did you see anything about .fc9 packages?
> >   
> Could be a misinterpretation on my part, but part of the error dump was 
> the contents of /mnt/sysimage/root.install.log which said things like 
> "Installing setup-2.6.14-1.fc9.noarch"

/root/install.log is the log from the *original* install. The anaconda
exception handler grabs that file automatically, regardless of whether
it's new or not. Check the timestamp on the file to confirm.

-w



From tom.horsley at att.net  Mon May  4 16:54:44 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:54:44 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-07 - Fedora Test Day - Virtualization
In-Reply-To: <1241453678.2726.76.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1241453678.2726.76.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090504125444.25cf54b8@tomh>

On Mon, 04 May 2009 12:14:38 -0400
James Laska wrote:

> Fedora 11 hosts a number of virtualization improvements

Just out of curiosity, is "documentation" ever likely to
show up as an improvement? :-). It took months for me
to get to where I had a vague idea what was going on with
Xen and how to fiddle things that weren't available directly
in virt-manager. KVM seems to be even more undocumented
than Xen.



From johannbg at hi.is  Mon May  4 17:10:51 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 17:10:51 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <20090504151504.GB24686@mail.harddata.com>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>
	<5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>	<49FF02BB.7030900@hi.is>
	<20090504151504.GB24686@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <49FF219B.3020000@hi.is>

Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 02:59:07PM +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>   
>> Anaconda maintainer thought I
>> was nuts testing this and claimed this would never be an end user case.
>>
>> Which btw is true but then again no normal end user uses the custom 
>> partition layout.
>>     
>
> If you really mean to say that "normal users do not use custom
> partitions layouts" then I know mostly "abnormal" users.
What I considered being an end user is a user that choose to do default 
next next install.
>   If
> anaconda has troubles handling that then it is even worse broken
> than I was afraid of.
>   
Well if you haven't tried how can you think that anaconda is broken for 
your usage case.

JBG
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: johannbg.vcf
Type: text/x-vcard
Size: 356 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/866c0bbe/attachment.vcf>

From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Mon May  4 17:23:12 2009
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:23:12 +0200
Subject: Fonts going funky in GTK apps
In-Reply-To: <1241450977.2766.178.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <f58861e00905040738x235399cco1fbcab0e65789e75@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090504144230.GA15396@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<f58861e00905040748l3e0660d2x491743885efe96e5@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241450977.2766.178.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1241457792.4257.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 11:29 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> I really, really wish that I had any reliable reproducer for this
> problem.  None of my Intel machines seem to trigger it.
> 
> If anyone can come up with, say, a specific web page that introduces
> this corruption every time, I'd be _thrilled_.
> 
> - ajax
> -- 
That would not be easy I think... I myself have seen this only *once*,
in midori and, strange enough, only some of the opened webpages were
affected and reload did not fix/break them (and even stranger in some of
them it was letter 'e' and in others letter 'a' that was screwed, if I
recall correctly). Now (after a few restarts and totally forgetting
about it), everything looks just how it should... I thought at that time
it was some weird font issue. I am also on Intel and on Gnome, using
metacity with compositing enabled (it's more reliable for me than compiz
and I just want real transparency support anyway). Definitely not always
reproducible for me...

Martin
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/26208277/attachment.sig>

From adrin.jalali at gmail.com  Mon May  4 17:27:14 2009
From: adrin.jalali at gmail.com (Adrin Jalali)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:57:14 +0430
Subject: copy paste problem.
In-Reply-To: <f6ca9fed0905040943q65bde863yae52747397ccc5ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com> 
	<gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org> <1241455120.2923.104.camel@adam.local.net>
	<f6ca9fed0905040943q65bde863yae52747397ccc5ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8049a2b40905041027j3b5a71dcn86912aa7488437ed@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:13 PM, drago01 <drago01 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Adrin is right, though - GNOME's had a built-in clipboard manager for
> > several releases now, so this works with most applications
> > transparently.
> >
> > However, it still seems to be working for me, with today's Rawhide. I
> > just tested by copying something from gedit, closing gedit, and then
> > pasting it into a gnome-terminal. Worked OK.
> >
> > I can't find any references for this, though (I learned about it via
> > Planet GNOME eons ago), so I wouldn't know how to tell what's gone wrong
> > for Adrin.
>
> This only works for the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V way.
> If you select a text and try to paste using the middle mouse button it
> only works when the source app is open.
>


Actually glipper is not that bad ;) since I installed it I have no problem,
but I think this feature is better to be in GNOME by default to handle
clipboard.

Best,
Adrin.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/5af25352/attachment.htm>

From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon May  4 17:28:43 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 13:28:43 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-07 - Fedora Test Day - Virtualization
In-Reply-To: <20090504125444.25cf54b8@tomh>
References: <1241453678.2726.76.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<20090504125444.25cf54b8@tomh>
Message-ID: <1241458123.2726.96.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 12:54 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 04 May 2009 12:14:38 -0400
> James Laska wrote:
> 
> > Fedora 11 hosts a number of virtualization improvements
> 
> Just out of curiosity, is "documentation" ever likely to
> show up as an improvement? :-). It took months for me
> to get to where I had a vague idea what was going on with
> Xen and how to fiddle things that weren't available directly
> in virt-manager. KVM seems to be even more undocumented
> than Xen.

Thanks for your comments Tom.  Much like testing, documentation is
always an area for improvement.  And I imagine it largely depends on
what level of detail, and the use-cases, you are looking for
documentation assistance on.

I'm guessing by your comment you're interested in some of the low level
differences between xen/qemu/kvm.  Please correct if I've guessed
incorrectly.  I've had a lot of luck reading up on API's, file formats
and the like at the libvirt project site ...
http://libvirt.org/docs.html.  Let me know if that is the level of
detail you're looking for.

When RHEL5 was released, there was a focused effort to provide
comprehensive documentation around Xen and supported configurations.
While I gather much of this has changed in Fedora, it may be useful for
background reading
http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Virtualization_Guide/index.html.  

One thing I've referenced several times while playing with
Virtualization in Fedora is
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_Quick_Start.  This document
appears to be actively maintained.  Lastly, you might be interested in
following the Virt updates posted to the fedora weekly news
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Virtualization_Beat).

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/685d059b/attachment.sig>

From kevin at scrye.com  Mon May  4 17:33:54 2009
From: kevin at scrye.com (Kevin Fenzi)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:33:54 -0600
Subject: Fonts going funky in GTK apps
In-Reply-To: <1241450977.2766.178.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <f58861e00905040738x235399cco1fbcab0e65789e75@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090504144230.GA15396@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<f58861e00905040748l3e0660d2x491743885efe96e5@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241450977.2766.178.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090504113354.23bbcfe5@ohm.scrye.com>

On Mon, 04 May 2009 11:29:37 -0400
Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 15:48 +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> > 2009/5/4 Chuck Anderson <cra at wpi.edu>:
> > > On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 03:38:36PM +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> > >> I'm using KDE on (soon-to-be)F11, and I've been noticing that
> > >> occasionally, the fonts go funky in Firefox and/or
> > >> OpenOffice.Org. It's hard to describe, but basically some
> > >> characters get replaced by screwed-up-looking box things.
> > >> Generally, restarting the app in question works.
> > >
> > > Intel graphics?
> > >
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495323
> > 
> > Yes, I have Intel graphics, and that looks like exactly my problem
> > -- thanks!
> 
> I really, really wish that I had any reliable reproducer for this
> problem.  None of my Intel machines seem to trigger it.
> 
> If anyone can come up with, say, a specific web page that introduces
> this corruption every time, I'd be _thrilled_.

I can't say for sure if this is the case, but I have seen it much more
often after I have used flash. (I typically keep flash disabled in
midori and only enable it when I specifically want it). 

Just tried loading a yourtube video here and I'm not getting the
corruption yet, so it's clearly not a 100% thing. ;( 

> - ajax

kevin
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 198 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/e2b1d192/attachment.sig>

From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Mon May  4 17:47:14 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 20:47:14 +0300
Subject: 2009-05-07 - Fedora Test Day - Virtualization
In-Reply-To: <1241458123.2726.96.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1241453678.2726.76.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<20090504125444.25cf54b8@tomh>
	<1241458123.2726.96.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <49FF2A22.30802@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

James Laska wrote:
> http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Virtualization_Guide/index.html.  
>
> One thing I've referenced several times while playing with
> Virtualization in Fedora is
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_Quick_Start.  This document
> appears to be actively maintained.  Lastly, you might be interested in
> following the Virt updates posted to the fedora weekly news
> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Virtualization_Beat).
>
> Thanks,
> James
>   
One use case that I would like to see documented, using an installed 
windows environment as my guest os. I once saw documentation on how to 
do this with vmware but not how to do this from fedora virtualization. I 
would really prefer to reuse my existing windows installation.



From tom.horsley at att.net  Mon May  4 17:59:02 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:59:02 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-07 - Fedora Test Day - Virtualization
In-Reply-To: <1241458123.2726.96.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1241453678.2726.76.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<20090504125444.25cf54b8@tomh>
	<1241458123.2726.96.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090504135902.40bbd22e@tomh>

On Mon, 04 May 2009 13:28:43 -0400
James Laska wrote:

> I'm guessing by your comment you're interested in some of the low level
> differences between xen/qemu/kvm.

Yep. There is always something I can't do in the gui, and I'd like to
understand the lower level command line tools. I'll check out your
pointers and see if they help. For Xen I eventually found it much
simpler to create my own config files to pass to "xm create" than to
use virt-manager. I'll probably want to be able to do something
at the same level with kvm someday once I learn enough.



From ajax at redhat.com  Mon May  4 18:00:41 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 14:00:41 -0400
Subject: F11 Preview problems
In-Reply-To: <1241129640.32113.385.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <499A337C93E2434DADA927D362AE3127@jbsys>
	<1241119569.2766.41.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1241129640.32113.385.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1241460041.2766.344.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 15:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> There's also 0x10DE 0x0008, 0x0009 and 0x0010. From what I can find, the
> 0x0008 and 0x0009 were the original NV1 chips - Diamond Edge 3D, as they
> were released. lshw claims the 0x0010 is the NV2, which was never
> released to the public.

nv1 hasn't had a native driver since XFree86 3.3.6.  Also I think I own
two-thirds of the world's collection of them by this point.  (The third
card being in a glass case at the NVIDIA office in Santa Clara.)

> nv claims support from NV3 onwards (but not NV1). nouveau claims support
> from NV4 onwards.
> 
> based on the above, I'd recommend the attached changes to
> xserver-1.5.99.902-nouveau.patch . Basically, blacklist 0008 and 0009
> for 10DE and 12D2 to vesa, blacklist 0018 and 0019 for both to nv, and
> use nouveau for everything else.
> 
> The oddball 0x10b4 0x1b1d is, according to old kudzu and ldetect-lst,
> the STB Velocity 128 3D, which Google (and my own slightly unreliable
> memory) agree is a Riva 128-based card. It seems to be the only time
> this PCI vendor ID was ever used, so we can just send that vendor ID
> straight to nv.

Technically the nv driver doesn't recognize 0x10b4 at all, so I'm happy
to let it continue to fall back to vesa.

Anyway.  nouveau patch in the server changed to special-case nv1 and nv3
onto vesa and nv, respectively.  Thanks!

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/5b535174/attachment.sig>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon May  4 18:04:00 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:04:00 -0700
Subject: copy paste problem.
In-Reply-To: <f6ca9fed0905040943q65bde863yae52747397ccc5ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com>
	<gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org> <1241455120.2923.104.camel@adam.local.net>
	<f6ca9fed0905040943q65bde863yae52747397ccc5ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241460240.2923.122.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 18:43 +0200, drago01 wrote:

> > Adrin is right, though - GNOME's had a built-in clipboard manager for
> > several releases now, so this works with most applications
> > transparently.
> >
> > However, it still seems to be working for me, with today's Rawhide. I
> > just tested by copying something from gedit, closing gedit, and then
> > pasting it into a gnome-terminal. Worked OK.
> >
> > I can't find any references for this, though (I learned about it via
> > Planet GNOME eons ago), so I wouldn't know how to tell what's gone wrong
> > for Adrin.
> 
> This only works for the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V way.
> If you select a text and try to paste using the middle mouse button it
> only works when the source app is open.

I don't think that's a regression, though is it? Hasn't it always been
that way?
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon May  4 18:04:03 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:04:03 -0700
Subject: F11 Preview : everything OK but Virtualbox
In-Reply-To: <760548114-1241454322-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-142641614-@bxe1243.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <a1d3651e0905020913h450175dbi3416378a56389927@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502171640.GA1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<760548114-1241454322-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-142641614-@bxe1243.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1241460243.2923.123.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 16:24 +0000, usul80 at gmail.com wrote:
> Simply because I am used to virtualbox. In any case I tried to use
> fedora's virtualization tool and I can't get pass the input of the
> name of the virtual machine. When the window pops up the "continue"
> button is not active. Any suggestion?

Did you install the whole Virtualization package group, as was
suggested? IIRC that can happen if you don't actually have any
virtualization system that virt-manager can use fully installed.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From caf at omen.com  Mon May  4 18:37:20 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:37:20 -0700
Subject: Preview on Abit VH6
Message-ID: <49FF35E0.8070407@omen.com>

It took a while, but I finally was able to install the 386 Preview on
a PIII with768 mb.  The first attempt failed with errors on the
CD drive.  For some reason Ubuntu 9.04 was able to install.

I then replaced the CD drive and was able to get the Preview to
install, without errors, albeit rather slowly.  Once installed, Preview
worked normally once the Ethernet was plugged in.  It was a
disappointment that the network manager did not identify an
unplugged ethernet cable.

On a whim I tried a suspend, first time I've ever tried it with Linux.
On powerup it loaded some stuff then locked up without any
messages.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From drago01 at gmail.com  Mon May  4 18:57:55 2009
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:57:55 +0200
Subject: copy paste problem.
In-Reply-To: <1241460240.2923.122.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com>
	<gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1241455120.2923.104.camel@adam.local.net>
	<f6ca9fed0905040943q65bde863yae52747397ccc5ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241460240.2923.122.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0905041157ia895cadma691d9816dd3c1ea@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 18:43 +0200, drago01 wrote:
>
>> > Adrin is right, though - GNOME's had a built-in clipboard manager for
>> > several releases now, so this works with most applications
>> > transparently.
>> >
>> > However, it still seems to be working for me, with today's Rawhide. I
>> > just tested by copying something from gedit, closing gedit, and then
>> > pasting it into a gnome-terminal. Worked OK.
>> >
>> > I can't find any references for this, though (I learned about it via
>> > Planet GNOME eons ago), so I wouldn't know how to tell what's gone wrong
>> > for Adrin.
>>
>> This only works for the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V way.
>> If you select a text and try to paste using the middle mouse button it
>> only works when the source app is open.
>
> I don't think that's a regression, though is it? Hasn't it always been
> that way?

Yeah has always been the case.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon May  4 19:08:49 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 12:08:49 -0700
Subject: copy paste problem.
In-Reply-To: <f6ca9fed0905041157ia895cadma691d9816dd3c1ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com>
	<gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org> <1241455120.2923.104.camel@adam.local.net>
	<f6ca9fed0905040943q65bde863yae52747397ccc5ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241460240.2923.122.camel@adam.local.net>
	<f6ca9fed0905041157ia895cadma691d9816dd3c1ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241464129.2923.188.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 20:57 +0200, drago01 wrote:

> >> This only works for the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V way.
> >> If you select a text and try to paste using the middle mouse button it
> >> only works when the source app is open.
> >
> > I don't think that's a regression, though is it? Hasn't it always been
> > that way?
> 
> Yeah has always been the case.

Right, so AFAICT, nothing's different for F11 - ctrl-c/ctrl-v style
pasting works after the app closes (as long as it's sufficiently
GNOME-y), and highlight/middle-click style never has.

if ctrl-c / ctrl-v style pasting has stopped working for you in a
circumstance where it worked in f10, I think that would be considered a
bug worth reporting with sufficient info to identify the problem.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon May  4 19:37:41 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 15:37:41 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-07 - Fedora Test Day - Virtualization
In-Reply-To: <20090504135902.40bbd22e@tomh>
References: <1241453678.2726.76.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<20090504125444.25cf54b8@tomh>
	<1241458123.2726.96.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<20090504135902.40bbd22e@tomh>
Message-ID: <1241465861.2726.106.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 13:59 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 04 May 2009 13:28:43 -0400
> James Laska wrote:
> 
> > I'm guessing by your comment you're interested in some of the low level
> > differences between xen/qemu/kvm.
> 
> Yep. There is always something I can't do in the gui, and I'd like to
> understand the lower level command line tools. I'll check out your
> pointers and see if they help. For Xen I eventually found it much
> simpler to create my own config files to pass to "xm create" than to
> use virt-manager. I'll probably want to be able to do something
> at the same level with kvm someday once I learn enough.

Great minds :)  I've followed much the same approach for fine-tuning
guests (xen/kvm).  This was needed at times to configure specific
devices for guests that the graphical tools intentionally wouldn't scare
users with.

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/2fd1f791/attachment.sig>

From beland at alum.mit.edu  Mon May  4 19:38:49 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 15:38:49 -0400
Subject: Problems with preupgrade
In-Reply-To: <1241451805.15774.10.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
References: <49FEC34B.8070603@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<1241451805.15774.10.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1241465929.6026.2.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 11:43 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> There are some .fc10 packages in the F11 repos, so that's not completely
> unexpected.

Weren't those supposed to be rebuilt by now due to the RPM checksum
changes?

-B.



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Mon May  4 19:34:41 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 15:34:41 -0400
Subject: copy paste problem.
In-Reply-To: <8049a2b40905041027j3b5a71dcn86912aa7488437ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com>
	<gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org> <1241455120.2923.104.camel@adam.local.net>
	<f6ca9fed0905040943q65bde863yae52747397ccc5ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<8049a2b40905041027j3b5a71dcn86912aa7488437ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241465681.6026.0.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 21:57 +0430, Adrin Jalali wrote:

> Actually glipper is not that bad ;) since I installed it I have no
> problem, but I think this feature is better to be in GNOME by default
> to handle clipboard. 

Is the best place to file that request with GNOME upstream?

-B.



From ricks at nerd.com  Mon May  4 19:52:08 2009
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 12:52:08 -0700
Subject: copy paste problem.
In-Reply-To: <1241464129.2923.188.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com>	<gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1241455120.2923.104.camel@adam.local.net>	<f6ca9fed0905040943q65bde863yae52747397ccc5ac@mail.gmail.com>	<1241460240.2923.122.camel@adam.local.net>	<f6ca9fed0905041157ia895cadma691d9816dd3c1ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241464129.2923.188.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <49FF4768.2060004@nerd.com>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 20:57 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> 
>>>> This only works for the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V way.
>>>> If you select a text and try to paste using the middle mouse button it
>>>> only works when the source app is open.
>>> I don't think that's a regression, though is it? Hasn't it always been
>>> that way?
>> Yeah has always been the case.
> 
> Right, so AFAICT, nothing's different for F11 - ctrl-c/ctrl-v style
> pasting works after the app closes (as long as it's sufficiently
> GNOME-y), and highlight/middle-click style never has.
> 
> if ctrl-c / ctrl-v style pasting has stopped working for you in a
> circumstance where it worked in f10, I think that would be considered a
> bug worth reporting with sufficient info to identify the problem.

Middle mouse button paste has worked for me since F7 or so under Gnome
with or without the "source" window being open.  It even works under
Synergy (cut from one machine, paste in another).  If it's not so in 
F11, then yeah, I'd say it's broken.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer                      ricks at nerd.com -
- AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 22643734            Yahoo: origrps2 -
-                                                                    -
-       A squeegee, by any other name, wouldn't sound as funny.      -
----------------------------------------------------------------------



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Mon May  4 20:19:28 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 16:19:28 -0400
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1240951324.6575.38.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<1240935631.6575.19.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1240943243.3142.31.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<1240951324.6575.38.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <1241468368.971.35.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 16:12 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 14:27 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 11:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 21:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > 
> > > > I have put up a FAQ at
> > > > 
> > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11
> > > > 
> > > > I will be expanding this over time. If you have other unanswered
> > > > questions, do let me know.
> > > 
> > > OK, here's one. The FAQ says "You can use the Anaconda boot option,
> > > "ext4migrate" to automatically migrate from Ext3 to the new Ext4
> > > filesytem when upgrading from a previous release of Fedora".
> > > 
> > > What does this mean in practice? Is the end result equivalent to backing
> > > up my ext3 partition and restoring under ext4, or does it simply mount
> > > the ext3 partition as ext4?
> > 
> > It mounts as ext4 *and* enables the 'extents' feature. So the files
> > written during the upgrade should be using extents - but not everything
> > on the system gets rewritten. /home, for instance, will be essentially
> > untouched.
> > 
> > So.. it's a little fancier than just mounting as ext4, but less invasive
> > and time-consuming than doing a full backup/restore.
> 
> OK, that's clear enough, thanks.

Actually it was a little less clear than I originally thought. I
installed F11 as an upgrade to F10 and wasn't asked if I wanted to
upgrade my filesystems to ext4. Only on revisiting the FAQ did I notice
that I would have had to give the "ext4migrate" option to Anaconda. I
had mistakenly assumed that this would be settable interactively.

In fact I don't quite see why it isn't.

poc



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon May  4 20:33:52 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 13:33:52 -0700
Subject: F11 Preview problems
In-Reply-To: <1241460041.2766.344.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <499A337C93E2434DADA927D362AE3127@jbsys>
	<1241119569.2766.41.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1241129640.32113.385.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1241460041.2766.344.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1241469232.2923.272.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:00 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 15:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > There's also 0x10DE 0x0008, 0x0009 and 0x0010. From what I can find, the
> > 0x0008 and 0x0009 were the original NV1 chips - Diamond Edge 3D, as they
> > were released. lshw claims the 0x0010 is the NV2, which was never
> > released to the public.
> 
> nv1 hasn't had a native driver since XFree86 3.3.6.  Also I think I own
> two-thirds of the world's collection of them by this point.  (The third
> card being in a glass case at the NVIDIA office in Santa Clara.)

There's a picture of one on Wikipedia uploaded by some dude last year.
So there's at least one you missed. :) I also found a reference to one
being used in a system by a guy in Malaysia in 2005.

(Why yes, I am a little unhealthily obsessive about graphics card
identification, thank you for asking :>)

> > The oddball 0x10b4 0x1b1d is, according to old kudzu and ldetect-lst,
> > the STB Velocity 128 3D, which Google (and my own slightly unreliable
> > memory) agree is a Riva 128-based card. It seems to be the only time
> > this PCI vendor ID was ever used, so we can just send that vendor ID
> > straight to nv.
> 
> Technically the nv driver doesn't recognize 0x10b4 at all, so I'm happy
> to let it continue to fall back to vesa.

OK. It probably *should*, but of course it's hard for anyone outside
NVIDIA to work on nv :\

> Anyway.  nouveau patch in the server changed to special-case nv1 and nv3
> onto vesa and nv, respectively.  Thanks!

FWIW, I looked into this some more after sending my mail, and it gets
even murkier. Everyone seems to have copied their data off each other,
but if you try and find references to actual hardware, it gets
difficult. Most sources seem to act as if the 0x10DE and 0x12D2 vendor
IDs are sort of concurrent - as if NV1 and NV3 chips existed with the
same device IDs (0x0008, 0x0009, 0x0018, 0x0019) but with both 0x10DE
and 0x12D2 vendor IDs. I suspect this isn't actually true, and really
only the 0x12D2 vendor ID was used for NV1 and NV3, and then handed off
to 0x10DE for NV4 and higher. So I suspect 0x10DE 0x0008, 0x10DE 0x0009,
0x10DE 0x0018 and 0x10DE 0x0019 never existed (and neither does 0x12D2
0x0020, for e.g.) But I suspect it'd be hard to prove that with
reference to real hardware at this point, and there's probably no
drawback to acting as if some cards exist that might not have.

(what are the actual PCI IDs of your nv1 cards, out of interest? maybe
they can deny my theory...)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Mon May  4 20:50:04 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 22:50:04 +0200
Subject: Bugzappers: requests from maintainers for special treatment
References: <1240437610.14173.741.camel@adam.local.net>
	<gt85q7$8ce$6@ger.gmane.org>
	<1240964510.32113.241.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1241369468.2923.37.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <gtnkds$vp4$4@ger.gmane.org>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> Couple of updates here: I've summarised this thread as it currently lies
> at rest for the next issue of FWN, so keep an eye out for that tomorrow.
> Also, on the above - I talked to David, and unfortunately for now it's
> not technically possible to show different statuses and resolutions for
> Fedora and RHEL bugs within the single Bugzilla instance. It is a
> feature that's previously been requested and one David is interested in,
> but Bugzilla itself doesn't yet have the infrastructure to make it
> possible. So we may have to wait a while on that one :(

Yet another argument for a separate Fedora Bugzilla.

        Kevin Kofler



From cry_regarder at yahoo.com  Mon May  4 20:38:57 2009
From: cry_regarder at yahoo.com (Cry)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:38:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Fonts going funky in GTK apps
References: <f58861e00905040738x235399cco1fbcab0e65789e75@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20090504T203557-26@post.gmane.org>

Mary Ellen Foster <mefoster <at> gmail.com> writes:
 
> I'm using KDE on (soon-to-be)F11, and I've been noticing that
> occasionally, the fonts go funky in Firefox and/or OpenOffice.Org.
> It's hard to describe, but basically some characters get replaced by
> screwed-up-looking box things. Generally, restarting the app in
> question works.
> 
> I've attached a couple of recent screenshots showing this in action.
> Is it just me? What component should I even file against?

There is a bug filed against gtk2, but now I really think that it is UXA.  I
tried downgrading gtk2 back to Apr 23 version but no change.  Switched xorg.conf
to EXA and problem is gone.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498848

 13 
 14 Section "Device"
 15         Identifier  "intel_device"
 16         Driver      "intel"
 17         Option "Monitor-VGA"    "2407WFP-right"
 18         Option "Monitor-TMDS-1" "2407WFP-left"
 19         Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
 20 EndSection
 21 

Added line 19 above to xorg.conf.

Cry.





From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Mon May  4 20:55:09 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 16:55:09 -0400
Subject: F11pre: Strange setting in inittab
Message-ID: <1241470509.971.39.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

I just installed F11pre as an update from F10 and while going through
all the *.rpmnew files came across this line from /etc/inittab:

        id:3:initdefault

rather than the more conventional:

        id:5:initdefault

Is this a bug or a feature (he said, expecting the answer "yes")?

poc



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Mon May  4 20:57:29 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 22:57:29 +0200
Subject: F11 Preview : everything OK but Virtualbox
References: <gtk7pd$3lg$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<04d923257a674a58949ed1843b694f4e@fcp.surfsite.org>
Message-ID: <gtnkrp$vp4$5@ger.gmane.org>

spoffley wrote:
> That sums up what is happening to me.  Version 2.2.0 works fine, you just
> need to download the generic Linux version, set the .run file to be
> executable and run it.  You should then have a working Virtualbox. I use
> Virtualbox because I have been for two years and, unless there is a tool
> to convert my virtual machines to the built in Fedora Virtualisation, then
> I will need to continue to use it.

You can use VirtualBox's vditool to convert the image to a raw image, which
you can then either use directly, or convert to one of the more
space-efficient formats supported by QEMU/KVM (e.g. qcow) using qemu-img.

        Kevin Kofler



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Mon May  4 21:00:26 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 23:00:26 +0200
Subject: Problems with preupgrade
References: <49FEC34B.8070603@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<1241451805.15774.10.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<1241465929.6026.2.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <gtnl1a$vp4$6@ger.gmane.org>

Christopher Beland wrote:
> Weren't those supposed to be rebuilt by now due to the RPM checksum
> changes?

Yes, but some of the rebuilds failed and are still being fixed. So F11 will
ship with some .fc10 packages, hopefully the build failures will get fixed
by F12.

        Kevin Kofler



From fabiolocati at gmail.com  Mon May  4 21:13:27 2009
From: fabiolocati at gmail.com (Fabio Locati)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:13:27 +0200
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
Message-ID: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi I have just installed the FC11-kde preview and I found 2 problems.
This is my lspci:

[fale at localhost ~]$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML
and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS,
943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME,
943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express
Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express
Port 2 (rev 01)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express
Port 4 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2
EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface
Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family)
SATA IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
02:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
02:01.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro
Host Adapter (rev 19)
02:01.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host
Adapter (rev 0a)
02:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 05)
0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[fale at localhost ~]$

the three problems are:
1- When I close the lip and after I open it, the screen does not start any more
2- the Synaptics touchpad does not scroll (nor vertically nor horizontally)

Yes, I have all three the packages (xorg-x11-drv-intel and
xorg-x11-drv-synaptic) and my distro is updated to now

Thank you for your time and for your work :)

I'm sorry for this message. I have already sent it at fedora-kde for a
mistake, this should be the right list :)
-- 
Fabio A Locati

Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1)
Phone: +39-328-3799681
MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabiolocati at gmail.com

PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334

Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon May  4 21:14:50 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 14:14:50 -0700
Subject: Bugzappers: requests from maintainers for special treatment
In-Reply-To: <gtnkds$vp4$4@ger.gmane.org>
References: <1240437610.14173.741.camel@adam.local.net>
	<gt85q7$8ce$6@ger.gmane.org>
	<1240964510.32113.241.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1241369468.2923.37.camel@adam.local.net> <gtnkds$vp4$4@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1241471690.2923.274.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 22:50 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Couple of updates here: I've summarised this thread as it currently lies
> > at rest for the next issue of FWN, so keep an eye out for that tomorrow.
> > Also, on the above - I talked to David, and unfortunately for now it's
> > not technically possible to show different statuses and resolutions for
> > Fedora and RHEL bugs within the single Bugzilla instance. It is a
> > feature that's previously been requested and one David is interested in,
> > but Bugzilla itself doesn't yet have the infrastructure to make it
> > possible. So we may have to wait a while on that one :(
> 
> Yet another argument for a separate Fedora Bugzilla.

I sorta agree that it may be a good idea, but I don't want to make the
proposal since I can't commit to doing the work it involves.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From wwoods at redhat.com  Mon May  4 21:20:52 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 17:20:52 -0400
Subject: F11pre: Strange setting in inittab
In-Reply-To: <1241470509.971.39.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1241470509.971.39.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <1241472052.15774.30.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 16:55 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I just installed F11pre as an update from F10 and while going through
> all the *.rpmnew files came across this line from /etc/inittab:
> 
>         id:3:initdefault
> 
> rather than the more conventional:
> 
>         id:5:initdefault
> 
> Is this a bug or a feature (he said, expecting the answer "yes")?

It's a "feature". 3 is still the default setting, for historical
reasons. The installer flips that to 5 for these (very common) install
cases:

- Interactive installs[1],
- LiveCD installs, 
- kickstart installs with 'xconfig --startxonboot'

You could argue that 5 should be the default, and the installer should
flip it to 3 for those cases that require it, but... easiest to just
leave it all as-is until we get around to replacing the entire thing
with Upstart[2].

Anyway, feel free to delete inittab.rpmnew - you probably want to keep
your system as-is.

-w

[1] Unless you disable all the packages that provide
"service(graphical-login)", or use text mode or VNC

[2] Or something else even newer and more confusing, just to further
irritate the old-school types.



From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Mon May  4 21:22:08 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 02:52:08 +0530
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1241468368.971.35.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<1240935631.6575.19.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1240943243.3142.31.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<1240951324.6575.38.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1241468368.971.35.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <89bdee5a0905041422j785fa493s9f94a8de17011168@mail.gmail.com>

>I had mistakenly assumed that this would be settable interactively.
> In fact I don't quite see why it isn't.

I rather prefer the current setup to manually specify "ext4migrate"
a) Since ext4 isn't backward compatible to ext3.
b) users when interactively prompted with a message to choose between
ext4 and ext3, would most of the time choose ext4 because of the
higher number without knowing the facts.

-- 
Gireesh



From wwoods at redhat.com  Mon May  4 21:23:16 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 17:23:16 -0400
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 23:13 +0200, Fabio Locati wrote:
> Hi I have just installed the FC11-kde preview and I found 2 problems.

> 1- When I close the lip and after I open it, the screen does not start any more

This sounds a lot like a similar problem with my i945-based ThinkPad:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490041

> 2- the Synaptics touchpad does not scroll (nor vertically nor horizontally)

Check out the new "Touchpad" tab in your Mouse preferences to enable
scrolling.

Hope that helps.

-w



From fabiolocati at gmail.com  Mon May  4 21:25:43 2009
From: fabiolocati at gmail.com (Fabio Locati)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:25:43 +0200
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
References: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3d9482340905041425t22c7c815ia124c9933d0b509a@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 23:13 +0200, Fabio Locati wrote:
>> Hi I have just installed the FC11-kde preview and I found 2 problems.
>
>> 1- When I close the lip and after I open it, the screen does not start any more
>
> This sounds a lot like a similar problem with my i945-based ThinkPad:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490041

Yep, it seems the same

>> 2- the Synaptics touchpad does not scroll (nor vertically nor horizontally)
>
> Check out the new "Touchpad" tab in your Mouse preferences to enable
> scrolling.

I don't have this tab... maybe because I'm on KDE?

> Hope that helps.
>
> -w
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Fabio A Locati

Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1)
Phone: +39-328-3799681
MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabiolocati at gmail.com

PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334

Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia



From wwoods at redhat.com  Mon May  4 22:04:28 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 18:04:28 -0400
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <3d9482340905041425t22c7c815ia124c9933d0b509a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<3d9482340905041425t22c7c815ia124c9933d0b509a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241474668.15774.43.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 23:25 +0200, Fabio Locati wrote:

> >> 2- the Synaptics touchpad does not scroll (nor vertically nor horizontally)
> >
> > Check out the new "Touchpad" tab in your Mouse preferences to enable
> > scrolling.
> 
> I don't have this tab... maybe because I'm on KDE?

OH! I can't believe I missed that. Sorry.

I don't know how you configure that in KDE, but - as a last resort - the
'synclient' command-line program should let you set things up the way
you want.

-w



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Mon May  4 22:38:30 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 18:38:30 -0400
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <89bdee5a0905041422j785fa493s9f94a8de17011168@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<1240935631.6575.19.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1240943243.3142.31.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<1240951324.6575.38.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1241468368.971.35.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<89bdee5a0905041422j785fa493s9f94a8de17011168@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241476710.2791.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 02:52 +0530, Gireesh wrote:
> >I had mistakenly assumed that this would be settable interactively.
> > In fact I don't quite see why it isn't.
> 
> I rather prefer the current setup to manually specify "ext4migrate"
> a) Since ext4 isn't backward compatible to ext3.
> b) users when interactively prompted with a message to choose between
> ext4 and ext3, would most of the time choose ext4 because of the
> higher number without knowing the facts.

There's something to be said for that, however I think hiding it in the
Anaconda options will virtually guarantee that most people, keen to try
out their shiny new F11, simply won't see it.

I tend regard Anaconda options as a last resort, e.g. for when your
machine won't boot the installer because of some video driver problem.

poc



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Mon May  4 22:40:05 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 18:40:05 -0400
Subject: F11pre: Strange setting in inittab
In-Reply-To: <1241472052.15774.30.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
References: <1241470509.971.39.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1241472052.15774.30.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1241476805.2791.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 17:20 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 16:55 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I just installed F11pre as an update from F10 and while going through
> > all the *.rpmnew files came across this line from /etc/inittab:
> > 
> >         id:3:initdefault
> > 
> > rather than the more conventional:
> > 
> >         id:5:initdefault
> > 
> > Is this a bug or a feature (he said, expecting the answer "yes")?
> 
> It's a "feature". 3 is still the default setting, for historical
> reasons. The installer flips that to 5 for these (very common) install
> cases:
> 
> - Interactive installs[1],
> - LiveCD installs, 
> - kickstart installs with 'xconfig --startxonboot'
> 
> You could argue that 5 should be the default, and the installer should
> flip it to 3 for those cases that require it, but... easiest to just
> leave it all as-is until we get around to replacing the entire thing
> with Upstart[2].
> 
> Anyway, feel free to delete inittab.rpmnew - you probably want to keep
> your system as-is.

Fair enough.

poc



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Mon May  4 22:45:09 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 18:45:09 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-05-05
Message-ID: <49FF6FF5.1010901@gmail.com>

Bug Triage Meeting
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
Tuesday @ 15:00 UTC/11 AM EST

Agenda for 2009-05-05
minutes form the last meeting: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Apr-28

There is not allot for this weeks agenda, so if there is something you would like added, reply to this email or let Adam Williamson or myself know. Follow up on housekeeping will be next week.

* Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/
-Update on the progress of porting to python 2.4.
404 error now replaces 500 errors.

* Severity/priority - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend
-Update on -devel email.

* Introduction Email SOP - Review draft.
 

See you tomorrow.
TK009



From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Mon May  4 23:45:39 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 09:45:39 +1000
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1241474668.15774.43.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
References: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<3d9482340905041425t22c7c815ia124c9933d0b509a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241474668.15774.43.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1241480739.4405.4.camel@moose>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 18:04 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 23:25 +0200, Fabio Locati wrote:
> 
> > >> 2- the Synaptics touchpad does not scroll (nor vertically nor horizontally)
> > >
> > > Check out the new "Touchpad" tab in your Mouse preferences to enable
> > > scrolling.
> > 
> > I don't have this tab... maybe because I'm on KDE?
> 
> OH! I can't believe I missed that. Sorry.
> 
> I don't know how you configure that in KDE, but - as a last resort - the
> 'synclient' command-line program should let you set things up the way
> you want.

Yeah, I'm not sure what's up, but for some reason scrolling is now
disabled by default.

I enabled scrolling (using the Gnome dialog) and it still didn't work.

Turns out that I also needed to adjust the RightEdge value using
synclient.  Mine was 983, but this required jamming my finger into the
corner of the trackpad, case. Setting it to 940 made scrolling work
again (along with enabling it).

Also, strangely, I can see options (in the Gnome dialog) to enable
two-finger scrolling, but I don't think my trackpad supports this (at
least, it didn't work when I enabled it) so I can't help but wonder
whether this option shouldn't appear unless the trackpad supports it (as
everyone know, Gnome has too many options as it is ;-])


R.

-- 
"It's a fine line between denial and faith.
 It's much better on my side"



From mclasen at redhat.com  Mon May  4 23:53:31 2009
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:53:31 -0400
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1241480739.4405.4.camel@moose>
References: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<3d9482340905041425t22c7c815ia124c9933d0b509a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241474668.15774.43.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<1241480739.4405.4.camel@moose>
Message-ID: <1241481211.2334.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:45 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote:

> 
> Also, strangely, I can see options (in the Gnome dialog) to enable
> two-finger scrolling, but I don't think my trackpad supports this (at
> least, it didn't work when I enabled it) so I can't help but wonder
> whether this option shouldn't appear unless the trackpad supports it (as
> everyone know, Gnome has too many options as it is ;-])
> 

Yes, the options should be disabled if they don't work. Unfortunately,
the only way to find out if the trackpad supports them is reading
Xorg.log, currently... 



From achrisjo at yahoo.com  Mon May  4 23:57:05 2009
From: achrisjo at yahoo.com (Arne Chr. Jorgensen)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:57:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: F10 - safe temp limits ?
Message-ID: <158966.19137.qm@web63705.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


What is safe temperatures for AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 ?

While reading the list in Firefox, fan-increased and found that
cpu0 increased to 100% while chewing on xorg. Temperature increased.
Acpi TZ1 dropped out somewhere, falling to 18 degree centigrade, while
core0 temp climbed to 100 degrees. Then cpu1 started being loaded, and 
this went to 100% as well. When core temperatures passed 110 degrees, I
hit power-off. But soon hit power-on as then I would have the cooling
fans. It took about 30 seconds or more before it was possible to get
the Bios startup screen shown. 

Unpleasant "smelling" hot, I would say. Anyone know safe limits ?

Firefox for Microsoft in Wine is looping if you try to minimize the window.
and with desktop-effects, windows is only painted partly before they halt.
They will continue if you click inside them or you do something else that
may trigger them to continue.

What is M/B temperature by the way ?

( runing X11 radeon X1200 ) 

//ARNE 



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May  5 00:19:22 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 17:19:22 -0700
Subject: Triage Day tomorrow
Message-ID: <1241482762.2923.286.camel@adam.local.net>

Yes, tomorrow after the Bugzappers meeting is Triage Day, as always. If
a few people are going to be around we could perhaps look at potential
F11 blocker bugs. I've also invited the new volunteers from the last two
weeks to come along, so hopefully some of them will show up to be
introduced to triaging. So please stick around after the meeting, or
drop by during the day, if you can! Thanks guys.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From wwoods at redhat.com  Tue May  5 01:06:56 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 21:06:56 -0400
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1241481211.2334.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<3d9482340905041425t22c7c815ia124c9933d0b509a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241474668.15774.43.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<1241480739.4405.4.camel@moose>
	<1241481211.2334.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241485617.6857.2.camel@zebes>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 19:53 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:45 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Also, strangely, I can see options (in the Gnome dialog) to enable
> > two-finger scrolling, but I don't think my trackpad supports this (at
> > least, it didn't work when I enabled it) so I can't help but wonder
> > whether this option shouldn't appear unless the trackpad supports it (as
> > everyone know, Gnome has too many options as it is ;-])
> > 
> 
> Yes, the options should be disabled if they don't work. Unfortunately,
> the only way to find out if the trackpad supports them is reading
> Xorg.log, currently... 

Actually, the new synaptics driver can emulate two-finger scrolling on
non-multitouch pads - something about detecting the width of the "touch"
and using that. It works quite well, actually.

So even though your pad may not be hardware multitouch capable, the
driver actually *does* support it. 

Free upgrade! You're welcome! :D

-w



From tom.horsley at att.net  Tue May  5 01:10:52 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:10:52 -0400
Subject: speeding up boot even more? (rebuild mkinitrd)
Message-ID: <20090504211052.48685cbe@zooty>

I notice options in the mkinitrd script like --omit-<whatever>
and --noresume.

What exactly do I have to do to force the initrd for the current
kernel to be rebuilt with some of these options turned on to
see if they can make my already much improved fedora 11 boot
time even faster?

(I know - make a backup of current initrd before anything).

I have no raids of any kind, use no LVM, and never want to
hibernate this system, so I'm thinking I could speed up
boots with

--omit-raid-modules --omit-lvm-modules --omit-dmraid --noresume

I'm just not exactly sure how to go about running the tool :-).



From craigwhite at azapple.com  Tue May  5 01:14:48 2009
From: craigwhite at azapple.com (Craig White)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 18:14:48 -0700
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1241485617.6857.2.camel@zebes>
References: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<3d9482340905041425t22c7c815ia124c9933d0b509a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241474668.15774.43.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<1241480739.4405.4.camel@moose>
	<1241481211.2334.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241485617.6857.2.camel@zebes>
Message-ID: <1241486088.3904.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 21:06 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 19:53 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:45 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Also, strangely, I can see options (in the Gnome dialog) to enable
> > > two-finger scrolling, but I don't think my trackpad supports this (at
> > > least, it didn't work when I enabled it) so I can't help but wonder
> > > whether this option shouldn't appear unless the trackpad supports it (as
> > > everyone know, Gnome has too many options as it is ;-])
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes, the options should be disabled if they don't work. Unfortunately,
> > the only way to find out if the trackpad supports them is reading
> > Xorg.log, currently... 
> 
> Actually, the new synaptics driver can emulate two-finger scrolling on
> non-multitouch pads - something about detecting the width of the "touch"
> and using that. It works quite well, actually.
> 
> So even though your pad may not be hardware multitouch capable, the
> driver actually *does* support it. 
> 
> Free upgrade! You're welcome! :D
----
thanks for the fish

I've been tracking this because I might as well figure out how to deal
with the touch pad on my Aspire One and apparently KDE is lacking here
without any libsynaptics.

So I've looked at the man page for synclient and have been commenting
out all of the various xorg.conf settings that I lifted from somewhere
along the way but I can't tell that it changes anything in synclient and
the man page doesn't help me much. Is there somewhere that has better
explanations of synaptics/synclient/xorg.conf interaction?

Craig


-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
believed to be clean.



From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Tue May  5 00:44:37 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:44:37 +1000
Subject: vmware problem in F11
In-Reply-To: <1240806931.3498.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <8049a2b40904230006g7850e794k481b7ea647cd82d4@mail.gmail.com>
	<1240720956.3300.3.camel@h225.179.72.24.cable.angl.cmaaccess.com>
	<1240742532.3812.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gt2m64$vpn$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<8049a2b40904262039m33548ef3q53e0e5086293c211@mail.gmail.com>
	<1240806931.3498.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241484278.8006.11.camel@moose>

On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 22:35 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 08:09 +0430, Adrin Jalali wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> > wrote:
> >         Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> >         > Uninstall kmod nvidia drivers and install akmod nvidia
> >         drivers and
> >         > should work perfectly.
> >         
> >         
> >         Huh??? How would that solve Adrin's problem? Not to mention
> >         that Adrin
> >         hasn't specified the graphics card in use at all.
> >         
> >                Kevin Kofler
> >         
> >         
> > 
> > Even if that was the problem, I'm already using akmod-nvidia
> > packages. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > fedora-test-list mailing list
> > fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > To unsubscribe: 
> I guess that's the kind of answer an inexperienced guy would give.  Mine
> didn't work after I installed Vmware because it wouldn't compile, so I
> switched to akmod and mine worked.  I forgot that I have a friend that
> sent me some packages also to install. I am still having trouble because
> I have to force quit.  Sorry for the incorrect answer to your problem.

Actually, If you think about it, switching to akmod packages for nvidia
might actually fix the problems, but not because of a change to the
nvidia driver.

The akmod packages need to be able to build things, so they install a
whole load of dependencies that are compiler relate.  So, while the type
of nvidia driver won't change things, having a compiler installed might
be very useful in getting vmware to compile.


R.
-- 
"It's a fine line between denial and faith.
 It's much better on my side"



From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Tue May  5 01:41:03 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 07:11:03 +0530
Subject: Fonts going funky in GTK apps
In-Reply-To: <loom.20090504T203557-26@post.gmane.org>
References: <f58861e00905040738x235399cco1fbcab0e65789e75@mail.gmail.com>
	<loom.20090504T203557-26@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <89bdee5a0905041841i10d6ad76jf88d2bb7e50e27f4@mail.gmail.com>

On my Compaq 3245 laptop[1],

1. It has happened multiple times with NVIDIA 6150 graphics -
reproducible if I work on KDE continuously for more than 3 to 4 hours.
2. It does happen to me even with only KDE Apps running - but I could
have opened Firefox/OO hours before it happened. I am certain no GTK
app was running when it happened though.
3. It does *not* occur if I disable KDE's desktop effects. I have run
the laptop for days without the blotting, for lack of a better word
;-)
4. Logout and Relogin fixed it temporarily but it came back as long as
Desktop effects were enabled.

> If anyone can come up with, say, a specific web page that introduces
> this corruption every time, I'd be _thrilled_.

Atleast for me, it is unpredictable and at times takes even 4 to 5
hours before blotting starts.


[1]  http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_89861767-6567-4528-bfb5-3d5a02538aeb

-- 
Gireesh



From tom.horsley at att.net  Tue May  5 01:44:39 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:44:39 -0400
Subject: what does . mean? (ls command output)
Message-ID: <20090504214439.0e74952c@zooty>

On fedora 11 preview, I just did a ls -l while sitting in the
/boot directory, and some of the files have a '.' at the end of
the permissions (some don't). Neither the man page nor the info
file for ls mention this dot that I can find. What in the blue
blazes does it mean?

-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1626054 Apr 20 15:44 System.map-2.6.29.1-102.fc11.x86_64
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1626169 Apr 24 11:08 System.map-2.6.29.1-111.fc11.x86_64

Looks kind like the above, but I got that from fedora 10, which
does *not* show the dot - I added it manually to show where it comes
out.



From tibbs at math.uh.edu  Tue May  5 01:54:35 2009
From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 20:54:35 -0500
Subject: what does . mean? (ls command output)
In-Reply-To: <20090504214439.0e74952c@zooty> (Tom Horsley's message of "Mon\,
	4 May 2009 21\:44\:39 -0400")
References: <20090504214439.0e74952c@zooty>
Message-ID: <ufa3abkb9gk.fsf@compute22.e.math.uh.edu>

>>>>> "TH" == Tom Horsley <tom.horsley at att.net> writes:

TH> Neither the man page nor the info file for ls mention this dot
TH> that I can find.

>From the info page:

     GNU `ls' uses a `.' character to indicate a file with an SELinux
     security context, but no other alternate access method.

 - J<



From iarlyy at gmail.com  Tue May  5 02:39:53 2009
From: iarlyy at gmail.com (iarly selbir | ski0s)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:39:53 -0300
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <81481f630905021247qe4b4b53qb3c19603d9ae0d0d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<81481f630905021155s4e26ba7cx458b56ed4ba07c79@mail.gmail.com>
	<23349538.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<81481f630905021247qe4b4b53qb3c19603d9ae0d0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <81481f630905041939p543f5a10lb831290a9d0980ae@mail.gmail.com>

I was talking about my problem with my 3G ( wireless broadband ), but I
don't know what component in bugzilla to file a bug about it.

Suggestions?

kernel, udev, or other?

Thanks in advance.


Regards,

- -
iarly selbir | ski0s

:wq!


On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:47 PM, iarly selbir | ski0s <iarlyy at gmail.com>wrote:

> After run this commands, now is working fine. do you know why this
> behaviour?
>
>
> I always that run this commands or is it a bug?
>
> Regards,
>
> - -
> iarly selbir | ski0s
>
> :wq!
>
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Mike Cloaked <mike.cloaked at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> iarly selbir | ski0s wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm using KDE.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> maybe
>> synclient TapButton1=1
>> synclient TapButton2=2
>> synclient TapButton3=3
>>
>> ?
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/F11-Preview---issues-tp23348973p23349538.html
>> Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/3bd4748f/attachment.htm>

From bruno at wolff.to  Tue May  5 02:40:48 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:40:48 -0500
Subject: Anaconda
In-Reply-To: <49FEFE02.40905@comcast.net>
References: <49FEFE02.40905@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20090505024048.GA21500@wolff.to>

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 09:38:58 -0500,
  "James W. Bennett" <jw-bennett at comcast.net> wrote:
> Another annoying thing about the anaconda installer, it insist on taking  
> my whole 1Terabit hardrive. I have tried over and over to install on a  
> smaller partition but in always takes the complete drive.  Or is there  
> something I am doing wrong.

You should be able to do a custom layout and not use the whole thing.



From greg.lumpkin at gmail.com  Tue May  5 03:10:03 2009
From: greg.lumpkin at gmail.com (Greg Lumpkin)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:10:03 -0400
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
Message-ID: <ef6d7e740905042010k6e36e605j7c8359dae9bc7fe7@mail.gmail.com>

Good evening all,

I have F11 Preview installed on my Compaq N800w laptop.  For some reason,
Bluetooth is showing as disabled in the Gnome applet, but under services, it
is showing as enabled and running.

When I click on Turn On Bluetooth in Bluetooth Preferences, nothing
happens.  This is preventing me from pairing with my Logitech Bluetooth
Travel Mouse.

Any ideas?

Greg
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090504/9a8d1a3c/attachment.htm>

From rc040203 at freenet.de  Tue May  5 03:23:36 2009
From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 05:23:36 +0200
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
References: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <49FFB138.8010704@freenet.de>

Will Woods wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 23:13 +0200, Fabio Locati wrote:
>> Hi I have just installed the FC11-kde preview and I found 2 problems.

>> 2- the Synaptics touchpad does not scroll (nor vertically nor horizontally)
> 
> Check out the new "Touchpad" tab in your Mouse preferences to enable
> scrolling.
1. How to make this a machine-wide default so all GNOME users on a 
particular machine get it?

2. This doesn't affect gdm, so a touchpad is not available in gdm 
logins, which renders scrolling and selecting users names in gdm pretty 
inconvenient.

Ralf



From jamundso at gmail.com  Tue May  5 03:33:00 2009
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:33:00 -0500
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <ef6d7e740905042010k6e36e605j7c8359dae9bc7fe7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef6d7e740905042010k6e36e605j7c8359dae9bc7fe7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20905042033o2c40892aifacaa5d6c2e87a2f@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Greg Lumpkin <greg.lumpkin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good evening all,
>
> I have F11 Preview installed on my Compaq N800w laptop.? For some reason,
> Bluetooth is showing as disabled in the Gnome applet, but under services, it
> is showing as enabled and running.
>
> When I click on Turn On Bluetooth in Bluetooth Preferences, nothing
> happens.? This is preventing me from pairing with my Logitech Bluetooth
> Travel Mouse.
>
> Any ideas?

More info might help..
did it work previously on linux? version(s)?
meaningful hardware data from messages?
lspci? etc.

jerry



From wwoods at redhat.com  Tue May  5 03:44:49 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 23:44:49 -0400
Subject: speeding up boot even more? (rebuild mkinitrd)
In-Reply-To: <20090504211052.48685cbe@zooty>
References: <20090504211052.48685cbe@zooty>
Message-ID: <1241495089.2943.9.camel@zebes>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 21:10 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:

> I have no raids of any kind, use no LVM, and never want to
> hibernate this system, so I'm thinking I could speed up
> boots with
> 
> --omit-raid-modules --omit-lvm-modules --omit-dmraid --noresume

Nope. mkinitrd is pretty smart - if you don't have mdraid/dmraid/LVM
volumes, it doesn't bother putting the modules / setup code in the
initrd. 

If you want to confirm this, you can use lsinitrd to check the contents
of an initrd yourself, e.g.:

su -c 'lsinitrd /boot/initrd-$(uname -r).img'

> I'm just not exactly sure how to go about running the tool :-).

In short: don't bother, it won't change anything. But if you must.. 
kv=$(uname -r); mkinitrd --stuff -v -f /boot/initrd-$kv.img $kv 

-w



From fabiolocati at gmail.com  Tue May  5 04:26:29 2009
From: fabiolocati at gmail.com (Fabio Locati)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 06:26:29 +0200
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <49FFB138.8010704@freenet.de>
References: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<49FFB138.8010704@freenet.de>
Message-ID: <3d9482340905042126o7b6d7b62p809c3d6383bd052f@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you guys, I have solved all the problems:
- I have setted the scrolls (that now works very good)
- and this morning the video driver works correctly :)

but I think it would be better if the synaptics touchpad have (by
default) the scrolling actived, do you think would be better?

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 at freenet.de> wrote:
> Will Woods wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 23:13 +0200, Fabio Locati wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi I have just installed the FC11-kde preview and I found 2 problems.
>
>>> 2- the Synaptics touchpad does not scroll (nor vertically nor
>>> horizontally)
>>
>> Check out the new "Touchpad" tab in your Mouse preferences to enable
>> scrolling.
>
> 1. How to make this a machine-wide default so all GNOME users on a
> particular machine get it?
>
> 2. This doesn't affect gdm, so a touchpad is not available in gdm logins,
> which renders scrolling and selecting users names in gdm pretty
> inconvenient.
>
> Ralf
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Fabio A Locati

Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1)
Phone: +39-328-3799681
MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabiolocati at gmail.com

PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334

Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia



From pato.lukaz at gmail.com  Tue May  5 05:54:52 2009
From: pato.lukaz at gmail.com (Alberto Patino)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 00:54:52 -0500
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20905042033o2c40892aifacaa5d6c2e87a2f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef6d7e740905042010k6e36e605j7c8359dae9bc7fe7@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20905042033o2c40892aifacaa5d6c2e87a2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4489a22a0905042254w440cf95cxc63ee7bcad129edd@mail.gmail.com>

Check you have this:

cat /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth
# Enable this to use hid2hci to switch a Bluetooth device in USB HID mode
# to HCI mode for Bluetooth operation.
HID2HCI_ENABLE=true

# Enable this to switch capable devices back to HID mode on Bluetooth
shutdown
HID2HCI_UNDO=true

stot and srtart bluetooth service


On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Greg Lumpkin <greg.lumpkin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Good evening all,
> >
> > I have F11 Preview installed on my Compaq N800w laptop.  For some reason,
> > Bluetooth is showing as disabled in the Gnome applet, but under services,
> it
> > is showing as enabled and running.
> >
> > When I click on Turn On Bluetooth in Bluetooth Preferences, nothing
> > happens.  This is preventing me from pairing with my Logitech Bluetooth
> > Travel Mouse.
> >
> > Any ideas?
>
> More info might help..
> did it work previously on linux? version(s)?
> meaningful hardware data from messages?
> lspci? etc.
>
> jerry
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Don't be evil!!!
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/3f14aa78/attachment.htm>

From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Tue May  5 06:21:31 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:21:31 +1000
Subject: g41 chipset, kernel patches and a possible solution to my problems
Message-ID: <1241504491.8006.22.camel@moose>

Hey All,

As some of you are aware, I've been trying to track down why f11 doesn't
want to do 3d on my g41 chipset and it appears there's a solution in
sight.

It turns out there's a patch that went into kernel 2.6.30-rc4 that
addresses this.  I (and others) would like to be able to test if these
patch works (wouldn't it be good if graphics on the g41 chipset worked
out of the box for f11) but I don't know how to get someone to build a
f11 kernel with the patch (presumably in Koji) so that we can test.

The bug in question is:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493307

more information is here:
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21095

There is an f12 kernel with this patch, but it fails somewhere during
boot up so I can't test to see if it's solves the problem at hand.

Is someone kernel related able to assist?


Rodd


-- 
"It's a fine line between denial and faith.
 It's much better on my side"



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Tue May  5 07:44:17 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 08:44:17 +0100
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <ef6d7e740905042010k6e36e605j7c8359dae9bc7fe7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef6d7e740905042010k6e36e605j7c8359dae9bc7fe7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0905050044q3d255596lf56180d319928c04@mail.gmail.com>

> I have F11 Preview installed on my Compaq N800w laptop.? For some reason,
> Bluetooth is showing as disabled in the Gnome applet, but under services, it
> is showing as enabled and running.
>
> When I click on Turn On Bluetooth in Bluetooth Preferences, nothing
> happens.? This is preventing me from pairing with my Logitech Bluetooth
> Travel Mouse.
>
> Any ideas?

You don't have a hardware rfkill switch that's switched off by chance?

Peter



From psmith at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 09:20:07 2009
From: psmith at fedoraproject.org (psmith)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:20:07 +0100
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1241481211.2334.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>	<1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>	<3d9482340905041425t22c7c815ia124c9933d0b509a@mail.gmail.com>	<1241474668.15774.43.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>	<1241480739.4405.4.camel@moose>
	<1241481211.2334.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A0004C7.8040205@fedoraproject.org>

Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:45 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
>
>   
>> Also, strangely, I can see options (in the Gnome dialog) to enable
>> two-finger scrolling, but I don't think my trackpad supports this (at
>> least, it didn't work when I enabled it) so I can't help but wonder
>> whether this option shouldn't appear unless the trackpad supports it (as
>> everyone know, Gnome has too many options as it is ;-])
>>
>>     
>
> Yes, the options should be disabled if they don't work. Unfortunately,
> the only way to find out if the trackpad supports them is reading
> Xorg.log, currently... 
>
>   
or using

synclient -m 100

and watching the fifth column of the output (f) while you touch with 
more than one finger, 1 is one finger 2 is two fingers etc. if it 
reports only one when pressing with two or more then no two finger scrolling

phil



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 09:28:54 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 02:28:54 -0700
Subject: automount with nfs4 funnies
Message-ID: <87zldrrj8p.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>


I can't seem to get automount to mount my nfs4 exports in f11-preview.
My nfs server only exports the home directories over nfs-v4.  This is
something that has worked for me for years and works flawlessly between  .
f10 systems.  It is only broken with my f11-preview client.

exports on the server (f10):

/        10.0.0.100(rw,fsid=0,no_root_squash,insecure,no_subtree_check)

auto.master on the clients:

/home	/etc/auto.home

auto.home on the clients:

fred	-fstype=nfs4,hard,intr,nodev,nosuid	server:/u/&


Am I missing a new security option I should be passing or something, or
is this just broken???

-wolfgang



From tom.horsley at att.net  Tue May  5 09:41:53 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 05:41:53 -0400
Subject: speeding up boot even more? (rebuild mkinitrd)
In-Reply-To: <1241495089.2943.9.camel@zebes>
References: <20090504211052.48685cbe@zooty>
	<1241495089.2943.9.camel@zebes>
Message-ID: <20090505054153.6481481a@zooty>

On Mon, 04 May 2009 23:44:49 -0400
Will Woods wrote:

> Nope. mkinitrd is pretty smart - if you don't have mdraid/dmraid/LVM
> volumes, it doesn't bother putting the modules / setup code in the
> initrd. 

Then why do I get all the messages before udev up around the time
initrd is running about "no raids found" and such?

>In short: don't bother, it won't change anything. But if you must.. 
>kv=$(uname -r); mkinitrd --stuff -v -f /boot/initrd-$kv.img $kv 

Yea, I finally realized I could find the code running mkinitrd
in the postinstall script for the kernel package and dug out much
the same thing. Weirdly, I get an initrd image that is almost
twice as big when I omit lots of stuff :-).



From fabiolocati at gmail.com  Tue May  5 10:49:20 2009
From: fabiolocati at gmail.com (Fabio Locati)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 12:49:20 +0200
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <4A0004C7.8040205@fedoraproject.org>
References: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<3d9482340905041425t22c7c815ia124c9933d0b509a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241474668.15774.43.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<1241480739.4405.4.camel@moose>
	<1241481211.2334.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A0004C7.8040205@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <3d9482340905050349o34a9b536n39b2004460fe5187@mail.gmail.com>

btw: the screen problem is a problem only if I leave the lip closed
for small periods. If I leave the lip close for like 5hrs everythings
works fine...

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:20 AM, psmith <psmith at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Matthias Clasen wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:45 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Also, strangely, I can see options (in the Gnome dialog) to enable
>>> two-finger scrolling, but I don't think my trackpad supports this (at
>>> least, it didn't work when I enabled it) so I can't help but wonder
>>> whether this option shouldn't appear unless the trackpad supports it (as
>>> everyone know, Gnome has too many options as it is ;-])
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yes, the options should be disabled if they don't work. Unfortunately,
>> the only way to find out if the trackpad supports them is reading
>> Xorg.log, currently...
>>
>
> or using
>
> synclient -m 100
>
> and watching the fifth column of the output (f) while you touch with more
> than one finger, 1 is one finger 2 is two fingers etc. if it reports only
> one when pressing with two or more then no two finger scrolling
>
> phil
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Fabio A Locati

Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1)
Phone: +39-328-3799681
MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabiolocati at gmail.com

PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334

Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia



From schaiba at gmail.com  Tue May  5 11:42:58 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:42:58 +0300
Subject: a couple of problems with FC11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <3d9482340905050349o34a9b536n39b2004460fe5187@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3d9482340905041413j58384c54pc8c7ce99e8b4e08b@mail.gmail.com>	<1241472196.15774.32.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>	<3d9482340905041425t22c7c815ia124c9933d0b509a@mail.gmail.com>	<1241474668.15774.43.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>	<1241480739.4405.4.camel@moose>	<1241481211.2334.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A0004C7.8040205@fedoraproject.org>
	<3d9482340905050349o34a9b536n39b2004460fe5187@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A002642.7060409@gmail.com>

Fabio Locati wrote:
> btw: the screen problem is a problem only if I leave the lip closed
> for small periods. If I leave the lip close for like 5hrs everythings
> works fine...
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:20 AM, psmith <psmith at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>   
>> Matthias Clasen wrote:
>>     
>>> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:45 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Also, strangely, I can see options (in the Gnome dialog) to enable
>>>> two-finger scrolling, but I don't think my trackpad supports this (at
>>>> least, it didn't work when I enabled it) so I can't help but wonder
>>>> whether this option shouldn't appear unless the trackpad supports it (as
>>>> everyone know, Gnome has too many options as it is ;-])
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Yes, the options should be disabled if they don't work. Unfortunately,
>>> the only way to find out if the trackpad supports them is reading
>>> Xorg.log, currently...
>>>
>>>       
>> or using
>>
>> synclient -m 100
>>
>> and watching the fifth column of the output (f) while you touch with more
>> than one finger, 1 is one finger 2 is two fingers etc. if it reports only
>> one when pressing with two or more then no two finger scrolling
>>
>> phil
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>   
I hope you mean 'lid', not 'lip' :p, and I also hope you read the rules 
about NOT top-posting.



From greg.lumpkin at gmail.com  Tue May  5 11:47:11 2009
From: greg.lumpkin at gmail.com (greg.lumpkin at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:47:11 +0000
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20905042033o2c40892aifacaa5d6c2e87a2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00151750e520e27c39046928d6c3@google.com>

It hasn't worked in a Linux distro unfortunately, but it did under Windows  
XP. It looked like the newer Gnome Bluetooth app in FC11 might have helped,  
but didn't. It appears when I issue the hcitool scan command. I'll check  
lspci tonight...



> More info might help..


> did it work previously on linux? version(s)?


> meaningful hardware data from messages?


> lspci? etc.





> jerry
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/5f690b84/attachment.htm>

From greg.lumpkin at gmail.com  Tue May  5 11:48:42 2009
From: greg.lumpkin at gmail.com (greg.lumpkin at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:48:42 +0000
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <4489a22a0905042254w440cf95cxc63ee7bcad129edd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0016e64652664c1b03046928dc0c@google.com>

Thanks Alberto. I'll check that out tonight...

Greg

On May 5, 2009 1:54am, Alberto Patino <pato.lukaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> Check you have this:

> cat /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth
> # Enable this to use hid2hci to switch a Bluetooth device in USB HID mode
> # to HCI mode for Bluetooth operation.
> HID2HCI_ENABLE=true

> # Enable this to switch capable devices back to HID mode on Bluetooth  
> shutdown


> HID2HCI_UNDO=true

> stot and srtart bluetooth service


> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Jerry Amundson jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/d9cf8318/attachment.htm>

From greg.lumpkin at gmail.com  Tue May  5 11:50:08 2009
From: greg.lumpkin at gmail.com (greg.lumpkin at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:50:08 +0000
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0905050044q3d255596lf56180d319928c04@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e0cd3525e71b2b0046928e1ef@google.com>

No hardware switch on this laptop. Thanks for the reply though...

Greg


> You don't have a hardware rfkill switch that's switched off by chance?





> Peter
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/06af121e/attachment.htm>

From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue May  5 12:09:23 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 08:09:23 -0400
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <000e0cd3525e71b2b0046928e1ef@google.com>
References: <000e0cd3525e71b2b0046928e1ef@google.com>
Message-ID: <1241525363.2466.4.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 11:50 +0000, greg.lumpkin at gmail.com wrote:
> No hardware switch on this laptop. Thanks for the reply though... 

I noticed a similar behavior last week.  I believe during a previous
test day, I had the bluetooth service disabled.  As a result, I could
right-click and activate bluetooth from the desktop, but it wouldn't
fully start due to the bluetooth service being disabled.  The problem
was addressed for me by starting bluetooth:

        # chkconfig bluetooth on
        # service bluetooth start

Unclear if this is the same problem you are experiencing, hope this
helps.

Thanks,
James

> > 
> > You don't have a hardware rfkill switch that's switched off by
> chance? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Peter
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/e1ac0911/attachment.sig>

From greg.lumpkin at gmail.com  Tue May  5 12:25:21 2009
From: greg.lumpkin at gmail.com (greg.lumpkin at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 12:25:21 +0000
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1241525363.2466.4.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <000e0cd30af659be6e0469295f7b@google.com>

Thanks! I'll give that a shot as well.

Greg


> I noticed a similar behavior last week. I believe during a previous


> test day, I had the bluetooth service disabled. As a result, I could


> right-click and activate bluetooth from the desktop, but it wouldn't


> fully start due to the bluetooth service being disabled. The problem


> was addressed for me by starting bluetooth:





> # chkconfig bluetooth on


> # service bluetooth start





> Unclear if this is the same problem you are experiencing, hope this


> helps.





> Thanks,


> James
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/c9c4b0f5/attachment.htm>

From fedora at resork.sent.com  Tue May  5 12:34:12 2009
From: fedora at resork.sent.com (Ken Roser)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 08:34:12 -0400
Subject: F11: no key repeat using vnc (vncserver)
Message-ID: <4A003244.9050406@resork.sent.com>

Using vncserver on Fedora 11 (latest as of 5/5/09) and a RealVNC client 
on Windows, version 4.4.3, I don't get any key repeats when keys are 
held down. The same VNC client works with other vncservers on other 
Fedora systems.  The system is a Dell 2850.  The following error found 
in the vnc log probably offers a clue to the problem, but I have no idea 
how to solve this.  Can anyone help?

Window manager warning: Log level 32: could not find XKB extension.

** (gnome-settings-daemon:17408): WARNING **: XKB extension not available

** (gnome-settings-daemon:17408): WARNING **: Neither XKeyboard not 
Xfree86's keyboard extensions are available,
no way to support keyboard autorepeat rate settings



From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Tue May  5 13:29:40 2009
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 15:29:40 +0200
Subject: swfdec + rawhide + youtube =?utf-8?b?4omF?= no sound
Message-ID: <1241530180.2316.9.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>

Well, I usually prefer the totem-youtube plugin to swfdec-mozilla in
web-browser, but sometimes it's more handy to open the video in
epiphany/midori. The thing is that it's almost always totally silent (up
until now I though that it's always silent but on one occurrence the
sound actually was there -- for one video and then disappeared again)...
I wonder if it's just some misconfiguration on my side or if it's a
known problem... Note that I can see the stream in pulse audio mixer but
even with all sliders at 100% it's completely silent. It used to work
better on F10 (at least the sound was there)...

Martin
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/617a0e4e/attachment.sig>

From bruno at wolff.to  Tue May  5 13:40:07 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 08:40:07 -0500
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <49FF02BB.7030900@hi.is>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FF02BB.7030900@hi.is>
Message-ID: <20090505134007.GA17760@wolff.to>

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 14:59:07 +0000,
  "\"J?hann B. Gu?mundsson\"" <johannbg at hi.is> wrote:
>
> However after I updated the machine after the upgrade and rebooted, grub  
> was messed up for some reason
> and I was left with just "GRUB" on the screen which leaves me a bit  
> worried I fixed it by rescue booting and reinstall grub
> but that is something that a novice end user certainly is unable to  
> perform or do..

I have been seeing that to, but haven't figured out what has been triggering
it. Do you use raid for /boot?

By the way you don't need to reboot in rescue mode to fix this.
You can use the configfile command to indicate where your configfile
is located and then boot from one of the menu items. Something like:
configfile (hd0,0)/grub/grub.conf
Then once the system is up as root you can run grub and redo the setup
with something like the following (for a raid 1 system):
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0)
setup (hd1)



From stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil  Tue May  5 14:10:38 2009
From: stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil (Stephen Berg (Contractor))
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 09:10:38 -0500
Subject: MP-BIOS bug 8254
Message-ID: <6o2tyl6fsk7w5W0BTQsIOA6fbrqFIWQTzE3m7yoPSKb2PUFUQlCDqA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>

Trying to get Fedora 11 Preview installed on a Tyan S2885 and I'm 
running into this at boot time after updating from rawhide:

MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work!  Boot with 
apic=debug and send a report.   Then try booting with the 'noapic' option.

So far I've tried the apic=debug and noapic options with no luck.  Also 
tried disabling the one APIC option in BIOS (v2.08) and that also had no 
effect.  The system either kernel panics or just hangs with just a 
blinking cursor at the top left of the screen.  The first kernel that 
installed from the DVD (2.6.29.1-102.fc11.x86_64) runs with no problems, 
but 2.6.29.1-111.fc11.x86_64 won't boot at all.

This system has been running on Fedora Core 6 and Fedora 9 without any 
issues like this at all.  Never got F10 installed on it.

-- 
Stephen Berg
Systems Administrator
NRL Code: 7321
Office: 228-688-5738
stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil 



From johannbg at hi.is  Tue May  5 14:12:06 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:12:06 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <20090505134007.GA17760@wolff.to>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FF02BB.7030900@hi.is> <20090505134007.GA17760@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <4A004936.7@hi.is>

Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 14:59:07 +0000,
>   "\"J?hann B. Gu?mundsson\"" <johannbg at hi.is> wrote:
>   
>> However after I updated the machine after the upgrade and rebooted, grub  
>> was messed up for some reason
>> and I was left with just "GRUB" on the screen which leaves me a bit  
>> worried I fixed it by rescue booting and reinstall grub
>> but that is something that a novice end user certainly is unable to  
>> perform or do..
>>     
>
> I have been seeing that to, but haven't figured out what has been triggering
> it. Do you use raid for /boot?
>
> By the way you don't need to reboot in rescue mode to fix this.
> You can use the configfile command to indicate where your configfile
> is located and then boot from one of the menu items. Something like:
> configfile (hd0,0)/grub/grub.conf
> Then once the system is up as root you can run grub and redo the setup
> with something like the following (for a raid 1 system):
> root (hd0,0)
> setup (hd0)
> setup (hd1)
>   
This was default next next done F10 installation with encryption default
partition layout.

If I had the grub command line I could have but all I got
was "GRUB"  no more no less...

I just booted the rescue image chrooted  and re installed grub which 
solved it.

Noticed that pjones did some recent changes to grub going to ping him 
about to
see if they might have caused this.

JBG
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: johannbg.vcf
Type: text/x-vcard
Size: 356 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/0eaafe68/attachment.vcf>

From johannbg at hi.is  Tue May  5 14:30:53 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:30:53 +0000
Subject: MP-BIOS bug 8254
In-Reply-To: <6o2tyl6fsk7w5W0BTQsIOA6fbrqFIWQTzE3m7yoPSKb2PUFUQlCDqA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
References: <6o2tyl6fsk7w5W0BTQsIOA6fbrqFIWQTzE3m7yoPSKb2PUFUQlCDqA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
Message-ID: <4A004D9D.3030802@hi.is>

Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:
> Trying to get Fedora 11 Preview installed on a Tyan S2885 and I'm 
> running into this at boot time after updating from rawhide:
>
> MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
> Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work!  Boot with 
> apic=debug and send a report.   Then try booting with the 'noapic' 
> option.
>
> So far I've tried the apic=debug and noapic options with no luck.  
> Also tried disabling the one APIC option in BIOS (v2.08) and that also 
> had no effect.  The system either kernel panics or just hangs with 
> just a blinking cursor at the top left of the screen.  The first 
> kernel that installed from the DVD (2.6.29.1-102.fc11.x86_64) runs 
> with no problems, but 2.6.29.1-111.fc11.x86_64 won't boot at all.
>
> This system has been running on Fedora Core 6 and Fedora 9 without any 
> issues like this at all.  Never got F10 installed on it.
>
Notice this after upgraded an old Toshiba labtop to F11 preview never 
saw this on F10 thou and
the kernel did not panic.

JBG
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: johannbg.vcf
Type: text/x-vcard
Size: 356 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/920076c8/attachment.vcf>

From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 14:56:06 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Tue,  5 May 2009 14:56:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090505 changes
Message-ID: <20090505145606.8779F1F81FE@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Tue May  5 06:15:03 UTC 2009

New package gst-mixer
        Legacy gnome-volume-control for advanced use cases
Updated Packages:

akonadi-1.1.2-1.fc11
--------------------
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.1.2-1
- akonadi-1.1.2
- optimize scriptlets a bit


anaconda-11.5.0.49-1.fc11
-------------------------
* Mon May 04 2009 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.5.0.49-1
- Collect network interfaces from NetworkManager (#493995) (dcantrell)
- Handle fstab entries whose filesystem we don't recognize.(#498120)
  (dlehman)
- Add an error signifying an unrecognized entry in /etc/fstab. (dlehman)
- Don't drop discovered format with unknown devices when parsing fstab.
  (dlehman)
- Fix display of paths for device-mapper device in bootloader widget.
  (dlehman)
- Don't call udevDeviceFormat if we're just going to clear the device
  (#497323). (clumens)
- Pass clearPartType to the devicetree as well. (clumens)
- Break the complex should-clear logic out of clearPartitions. (clumens)
- Handle clearpart in the early kickstart pass too. (clumens)
- Correct setting the SELinux context on mountpoints (#494995). (clumens)
- make resetFileContext return the context set (wwoods)
- Allow editing of the hdiso source partition so it can be mounted
  (#498591). (clumens)
- Add a ignoreProtected= parameter to deviceImmutable that does the obvious.
  (clumens)
- Be more aggressive unmounting before install starts (#498260) (katzj)
- Add %{?dist} to the release number in the spec file. (dcantrell)
- Configure network in kickstartNetworkUp() iff NM is not connected
  (#490518) (dcantrell)
- Don't segfault with "ks someotherparam" (#498307). (clumens)
- Fix the arch upgrade check in yuminstall.py, too (#498280). (clumens)
- Move _resetRpmDb into iutil so we can access it everywhere. (clumens)
- Don't mount bind mounts last, that makes /dev break. (pjones)
- Pass anaconda to storage.FSSet.turnOnSwap. (dlehman)
- Ignore spurious formatting on partitioned devices. (dlehman)
- Revert "DeviceError only returns a message, not (message, device) tuple
  (#496343)." (dlehman)
- Fix action sorting for partitions on the same disk. (#498064) (dlehman)
- Fix traceback in second editing of existing raid dev (#497234). (rvykydal)
- Allow existing LVs with filesystems to be resized (#490913) (dcantrell)
- Rate limit pulse() calls to ProgressWindow. (pjones)
- Don't populate flags.cmdline with "True" values when no = is used. (pjones)
- Add "nomodeset" to the list of command line arguments copied to grub.conf
  (pjones)
- Use device.format.mountType insead of device.format.type for fstab.
  (pjones)
- Initialize x86 class variables before efiBootloaderInfo.__init__() (pjones)
- Fix a segfault on nfs+kickstart (pjones)
- Fix an error when raising FormatCreateException. (clumens)
- Add more windows to the rescue interface class (#498014). (clumens)
- Remove requirement for EFI machines to be x86, since IA64 is too
  (#497934). (clumens)
- Fix the kernel package selection on ppc64 machines (#497264). (clumens)
- Include fsck.ext4 and mkfs.ext4 in the images (#497996). (clumens)
- Properly restore SIGCHLD if X startup fails (wwoods)
- Fix kickstart PV references handling for lvm on raid (#497352). (rvykydal)


atlas-3.8.3-4.fc11
------------------
* Sat May 02 2009 Deji Akingunola <dakingun at gmail.com> - 3.8.3-4
- Use the right -msse* option for the -sse* subpackages (Fedora bug #498715)

* Tue Apr 21 2009 Karsten Hopp <karsten at redhat.com> 3.8.3-3.1
- add s390x to 64 bit archs


brasero-2.26.1-3.fc11
---------------------
* Fri May 01 2009 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> - 2.26.1-3
- require main package in brasero-nautilus (#498632)


fedora-bookmarks-11-1
---------------------
* Fri May 01 2009 Christopher Aillon <caillon at redhat.com> - 11-1
- Refresh Fedora Project link set
- Add new Free Content link
- Remove obsolete links


gajim-0.12.1-3.fc11
-------------------
* Sat May 02 2009 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 0.12.1-3
- Added 'Requires: gnome-python2-bonobo'. (Red Hat Bugzilla #470181)


gnome-bluetooth-2.27.4-4.fc11
-----------------------------
* Fri May 01 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 2.27.4-4
- Touch the icon theme directory, should fix the icon not appearing
  properly on new installs


gnome-media-2.26.0-6.fc11
-------------------------
* Fri May 01 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 2.26.0-5
- Move streams straight away when changing the default sink (#489049)

* Fri May 01 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> 2.26.0-6
- Fix cramped appearance of the balance slider

* Mon Apr 27 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.26.0-4
- Fix alignment of sliders on the application tab as well

* Thu Apr 23 2009 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 2.26.0-3
- Don't show debug when disabling the debug output (#493138)


gnutls-2.6.6-1.fc11
-------------------
* Mon May 04 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> 2.6.6-1
- upgrade to a new upstream version - security fixes


gvfs-1.2.2-4.fc11
-----------------
* Sat May 02 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1.2.2-4
- Really hide drives that are supposed to be hidden (#498649)


initscripts-8.95-1
------------------
* Fri May 01 2009 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> - 8.95-1
- don't kill runlevel events on subsequent entering of the same runlevel (#498514)
- lang.*sh: handle spaces in $HOME (#498482)
- network-functions: explicitly source from the proper directory. (#496233)
- remove persistent names on sys-unconfig. (#448322)
- init.d/functions: cgexec has moved to /bin (#495715)
- allow changing of VLAN type even if the module is already loaded. (#495053, <pietro at bertera.it>)
- translation updates: fr, ml, pt


kernel-2.6.29.2-126.fc11
------------------------
* Mon May 04 2009 Ben Skeggs <bskeggs at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-125
- Disable CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA due to very bad interactions with nouveau

* Mon May 04 2009 Ben Skeggs <bskeggs at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-126
- Explicitly enable CONFIG_FB_MODE_HELPERS to fix build..

* Sun May 03 2009 Ben Skeggs <bskeggs at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-124
- drm-nouveau.patch: ignore unsupported dcb encoder types completely
- nv50: module option to run output scripts, too raw to be by default yet,
  but will fix a number of issues in the places where they work.

* Sat May 02 2009 Ben Skeggs <bskeggs at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-122
- drm-nouveau.patch: nv50 connector grouping fixes
- bios parser updates from ddx (nv50 panel mode from VBIOS table)
- pre-nv50 modesetting updates from ddx (in disabled codepath)

* Sat May 02 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-123
- Build htmldocs single threaded.

* Fri May 01 2009 Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com>
- Fix ext4 corruption on partial write into prealloc block

* Fri May 01 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-121
- More bluetooth fixes from 2.6.30-rc.
- linux-2.6-v4l-dvb-fixes.patch: restore, accidently nuked.
- linux-2.6-v4l-dvb-experimental.patch: restore to previous version
   to fix rejects against restored -fixes.

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-117
- drm-radeon-kms-fixes.patch: add r300 clip regs

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-118
- drm-radeon-kms-fixes.patch: revert rs480 snoop break

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-119
- Update to 2.6.29.2
- Patches rebased:
  linux-2.6-v4l-dvb-experimental.patch
  drm-next.patch
- Patches merged upstream:
  linux-2.6-acer-wmi-bail-on-aao.patch
  linux-2.6-e820-mark-esi-clobbered.patch
  linux-2.6-kvm-kconfig-irqchip.patch
  linux-2.6-kvm-mask-notifiers.patch
  linux-2.6-kvm-reset-pit-irq-on-unmask.patch
  linux-2.6-md-raid1-dont-assume-new-bvecs-are-init.patch
  linux-2.6-mm-define-unique-value-for-as_unevictable.patch
  linux-2.6-net-fix-another-gro-bug.patch
  linux-2.6-posix-timers-fix-clock-monotonicity.patch
  linux-2.6-posix-timers-fix-rlimit_cpu-fork-2.patch
  linux-2.6-posix-timers-fix-rlimit_cpu-setitimer.patch
  linux-2.6-v4l-dvb-fixes.patch
  linux-2.6-v4l-dvb-update.patch
  linux-2.6.29.1-sparc-regression.patch
  pat-remove-page-granularity-tracking-for-vm_insert_pfn_maps.patch


libvoikko-2.1-1.fc11
--------------------
* Sat May 02 2009 Ville-Pekka Vainio <vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi> - 2.1-1
- 2.1 final, including fixes to grammar checking


links-2.2-9.fc11
----------------
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> - 2.2-9
- Add epoch to beat elinks obsoletes


mozplugger-1.10.1-5.fc11
------------------------
* Mon May 04 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 1.10.1-5
- fix #469257, selinux policy and mozplugger do not get along


plymouth-0.7.0-0.2009.03.10.4.fc11
----------------------------------
* Fri May 01 2009 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 0.7.0-0.2009.03.10.4
- Make spinfinity provide plymouth(system-plugin)


qdevelop-0.27.4-3.fc11
----------------------
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 0.27.4-3
- Fix failure to compile a project with Qt 4.5.1 (#497734, patch by Than Ngo)

* Wed Apr 22 2009 Nicoleau Fabien <nicoleau.fabien at gmail.com> - 0.27.4-2
- Rebuild for Qt 4.5


qemu-0.10-16.fc11
-----------------
* Fri May 01 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 2:0.10-16
- Really provide qemu-kvm as a metapackage


selinux-policy-3.6.12-28.fc11
-----------------------------
* Mon May 04 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-28
- Fix package selection handling

* Fri May 01 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-27
- Fix /sbin/ip6tables-save context
- Allod udev to transition to mount
- Fix loading of mls policy file

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-26
- Add shorewall policy

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-25
- Additional rules for fprintd and sssd


tigervnc-0.0.90-0.7.20090427svn3789.fc11
----------------------------------------
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 0.0.90-0.7.20090427svn3789
- server package now requires xorg-x11-fonts-misc (#498184)


tracker-0.6.94-1.fc11
---------------------
* Fri May 01 2009 Deji Akingunola <dakingun at gmail.com> - 0.6.94-1
- Update to 0.6.94 release


xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-33.20090501gitf69b34a.fc11
------------------------------------------------------
* Mon May 04 2009 Ben Skeggs <bskeggs at redhat.com> 0.0.12-33.20090501gitf69b34a
- rh#492572: only apply bicubic filter when scaling >=2x
- rh#497654: correct exa offscreen memory size

* Fri May 01 2009 Ben Skeggs <bskeggs at redhat.com> 0.0.12-32.20090501gitf69b34a
- upstream update fixing serious issues in nv50 output setup


xsane-0.996-7.fc11
------------------
* Sun May 03 2009 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 0.996-7
- rebuild to make it work (gcc miscompile?)


Summary:
Added Packages: 1
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 23









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil  Tue May  5 15:07:49 2009
From: stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil (Stephen Berg (Contractor))
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:07:49 -0500
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
Message-ID: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>

Having trouble with getting a NIS binding on a new install of F11 preview.

NetworkManager is not configuring the ethernet connection so I've 
disabled it and just use the network service.  This is a workstation, 
doesn't ever move, has no wireless and won't ever have wireless.  I get 
no binding when NIS starts.  I've tried specifying a NIS server and 
tried broadcasting, neither method works.

On a whim I removed the F11 ypbind and rpm installed ypbind from F10 and 
it works just fine. 

Got the source for F11 ypbind, compiled without DBUS/NetworkManager 
support and that one seems to work just fine.  The man page for ypbind 
says that if NetworkManager is not running it will behave as usual and 
assume that network interfaces are up and available.  That doesn't seem 
to be the case.

Any one seen this and possibly found a good solution?

-- 
Stephen Berg
Systems Administrator
NRL Code: 7321
Office: 228-688-5738
stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil 



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Tue May  5 15:17:49 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:17:49 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?q?Re=3A_swfdec_+_rawhide_+_youtube_=E2=89=85_no_sound?=
In-Reply-To: <1241530180.2316.9.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>
References: <1241530180.2316.9.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0905050817w787d1e0oc7d07597d90913dc@mail.gmail.com>

> Well, I usually prefer the totem-youtube plugin to swfdec-mozilla in
> web-browser, but sometimes it's more handy to open the video in
> epiphany/midori. The thing is that it's almost always totally silent (up
> until now I though that it's always silent but on one occurrence the
> sound actually was there -- for one video and then disappeared again)...
> I wonder if it's just some misconfiguration on my side or if it's a
> known problem... Note that I can see the stream in pulse audio mixer but
> even with all sliders at 100% it's completely silent. It used to work
> better on F10 (at least the sound was there)...

I noticed this today as well when I was catching up on some youtube
watching. Ended up installing totem-youtube as it worked OK. No idea
what's up.

Peter



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue May  5 15:32:35 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:32:35 -0400
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
Message-ID: <1241537555.2466.32.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 10:07 -0500, Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:
> Having trouble with getting a NIS binding on a new install of F11 preview.
> 
> NetworkManager is not configuring the ethernet connection so I've 
> disabled it and just use the network service.  This is a workstation, 
> doesn't ever move, has no wireless and won't ever have wireless.  I get 
> no binding when NIS starts.  I've tried specifying a NIS server and 
> tried broadcasting, neither method works.
> 
> On a whim I removed the F11 ypbind and rpm installed ypbind from F10 and 
> it works just fine. 
> 
> Got the source for F11 ypbind, compiled without DBUS/NetworkManager 
> support and that one seems to work just fine.  The man page for ypbind 
> says that if NetworkManager is not running it will behave as usual and 
> assume that network interfaces are up and available.  That doesn't seem 
> to be the case.
> 
> Any one seen this and possibly found a good solution?

Vitezslav just pointed me to the bugzilla.  It appears there is a
workaround in comment#6

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483650#c6

Thanks,
James

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/43f968be/attachment.sig>

From stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil  Tue May  5 15:40:09 2009
From: stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil (Stephen Berg (Contractor))
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:40:09 -0500
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <1241537555.2466.32.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
	<1241537555.2466.32.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <gJzaKMPv-p55ucjjhplAwJ6XS6fnSU8snoogI0AP1L2sY84dK9tsRw@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>

James Laska wrote:
> Vitezslav just pointed me to the bugzilla.  It appears there is a
> workaround in comment#6
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483650#c6
>
> Thanks,
> James
>   
Yeah, I just found that bug and indeed it does fix the problem.  Is it 
just me or is NetworkManager a bit on the brain-dead side sometimes?


-- 
Stephen Berg
Systems Administrator
NRL Code: 7321
Office: 228-688-5738
stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil 



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 15:40:23 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 08:40:23 -0700
Subject: yum question???
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905050840y11869107g17f704ccc30e0628@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

I know that it is probably too late to ask for a new feature for yum, but I
thought that I would drop my two cents into the pile.

I would like to know if a timestamp could be added when yum lists the new
updates???

Thank you,
Sincerely,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/6947dca3/attachment.htm>

From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 15:44:07 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:44:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: yum question???
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10905050840y11869107g17f704ccc30e0628@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905050840y11869107g17f704ccc30e0628@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905051143390.16363@localhost.localdomain>



On Tue, 5 May 2009, Rob Healey wrote:

> Greetings:
> 
> I know that it is probably too late to ask for a new feature for yum, but I thought that I would drop my two cents into
> the pile.
> 
> I would like to know if a timestamp could be added when yum lists the new updates???
>

A timestamp of _what_?

When the pkg was built?
When the pkg was added to the repository?

-sv



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Tue May  5 15:59:54 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:59:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: xsane just sits there, sucking up CPU
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905051158240.2922@localhost.localdomain>


  i'm still on f11 x86_64 beta, and i invoked xsane which, in its
initial dialog window, recognized my multi-function samsung laser
printer, but since then, "top" shows that it's just sucking up around
100% of the CPU but not displaying any further windows.  is this a
known issue?  i just fully updated.  anything else i should be
checking?  thanks.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From rc040203 at freenet.de  Tue May  5 15:17:31 2009
From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:17:31 +0200
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
Message-ID: <4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>

Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:
> Having trouble with getting a NIS binding on a new install of F11 preview.
> 
> NetworkManager is not configuring the ethernet connection so I've 
> disabled it and just use the network service.  This is a workstation, 
> doesn't ever move, has no wireless and won't ever have wireless.  I get 
> no binding when NIS starts.  I've tried specifying a NIS server and 
> tried broadcasting, neither method works.
> 
> On a whim I removed the F11 ypbind and rpm installed ypbind from F10 and 
> it works just fine.
> Got the source for F11 ypbind, compiled without DBUS/NetworkManager 
> support and that one seems to work just fine.  The man page for ypbind 
> says that if NetworkManager is not running it will behave as usual and 
> assume that network interfaces are up and available.  That doesn't seem 
> to be the case.
> 
> Any one seen this and possibly found a good solution?
> 
Are you having problems with ypbind (client) or with ypserv (server)?

I had quite some amount of problems in getting ypbind going with FC11, 
until I found, I now have to fill /etc/yp.conf and to add NISDOMAIN to 
/etc/sysconfig/network.

In FC10, setting NISDOMAIN in /etc/sysconfig/network had been sufficient.

Ralf




From stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil  Tue May  5 16:28:35 2009
From: stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil (Stephen Berg (Contractor))
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:28:35 -0500
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
	<4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>
Message-ID: <CtV4x70OtC6X73BBpjxI3zQAO6rTwLpYCSdXW0ZCvxU0FtPmaxerKQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>

Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Are you having problems with ypbind (client) or with ypserv (server)?
>
> I had quite some amount of problems in getting ypbind going with FC11, 
> until I found, I now have to fill /etc/yp.conf and to add NISDOMAIN to 
> /etc/sysconfig/network.
>
> In FC10, setting NISDOMAIN in /etc/sysconfig/network had been sufficient.
>
Just the client.  It apparently is hard coded to check with 
NetworkManager via DBUS on the status of network connections.  
NetworkManager is turned off on the system so ypbind couldn't ever bind 
to the NIS domain.  I've created /etc/sysconfig/ypbind containing:
OTHER_YPBIND_OPTS="-no-dbus"

Now it functions correctly and doesn't depend on NetworkManager.

-- 
Stephen Berg
Systems Administrator
NRL Code: 7321
Office: 228-688-5738
stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil 



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Tue May  5 16:39:03 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 12:39:03 -0400
Subject: xsane just sits there, sucking up CPU
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905051158240.2922@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905051158240.2922@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241541543.6026.37.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 11:59 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> i'm still on f11 x86_64 beta, and i invoked xsane which, in its
> initial dialog window, recognized my multi-function samsung laser
> printer, but since then, "top" shows that it's just sucking up around
> 100% of the CPU but not displaying any further windows.  is this a
> known issue?  i just fully updated.  anything else i should be
> checking?  thanks.

You might try the latest version when it hits the mirrors.  From the
latest Rawhide Report:

>>
xsane-0.996-7.fc11
------------------
* Sun May 03 2009 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 0.996-7
- rebuild to make it work (gcc miscompile?)
<<

-B.




From kdekorte at gmail.com  Tue May  5 16:45:17 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:45:17 -0600
Subject: xsane just sits there, sucking up CPU
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905051158240.2922@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905051158240.2922@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A006D1D.706@gmail.com>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   i'm still on f11 x86_64 beta, and i invoked xsane which, in its
> initial dialog window, recognized my multi-function samsung laser
> printer, but since then, "top" shows that it's just sucking up around
> 100% of the CPU but not displaying any further windows.  is this a
> known issue?  i just fully updated.  anything else i should be
> checking?  thanks.
> 
> rday

Robert,

Todays update of xsane fixed the hanging problem I had. I am using the
epkowa driver on my Epson V200 scanner (64bit)

Kevin

- --
Get my public GnuPG key from
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7D0BD5D1
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Remi - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iEYEARECAAYFAkoAbR0ACgkQ6w2kMH0L1dHh/wCfV+nQnUQTO0YcnZKCUGODQUMt
e8cAn14Q0IhbelX5d772KU429jioyFEB
=pifo
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Tue May  5 16:49:01 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 12:49:01 -0400
Subject: Revised draft of priority / severity mail to -devel list
In-Reply-To: <1241200827.2811.25.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1241200827.2811.25.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1241542141.6026.41.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

Looks find to me, other than that:

> usually set
> arbitrarily by reporters, and thus convey no useful information.

is offensive to some reporters.  Replacing the last phrase with "and
thus aren't as useful to maintainers as they could be" or just omitting
it might be more diplomatic.

-B.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Tue May  5 16:56:12 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 12:56:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: xsane just sits there, sucking up CPU
In-Reply-To: <1241541543.6026.37.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905051158240.2922@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241541543.6026.37.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905051255330.3879@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 5 May 2009, Christopher Beland wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 11:59 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > i'm still on f11 x86_64 beta, and i invoked xsane which, in its
> > initial dialog window, recognized my multi-function samsung laser
> > printer, but since then, "top" shows that it's just sucking up around
> > 100% of the CPU but not displaying any further windows.  is this a
> > known issue?  i just fully updated.  anything else i should be
> > checking?  thanks.
>
> You might try the latest version when it hits the mirrors.  From the
> latest Rawhide Report:
>
> >>
> xsane-0.996-7.fc11
> ------------------
> * Sun May 03 2009 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 0.996-7
> - rebuild to make it work (gcc miscompile?)

  great, thanks, i'll wait for that to hit the mirrors.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From ricks at nerd.com  Tue May  5 16:58:12 2009
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 09:58:12 -0700
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <CtV4x70OtC6X73BBpjxI3zQAO6rTwLpYCSdXW0ZCvxU0FtPmaxerKQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>	<4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>
	<CtV4x70OtC6X73BBpjxI3zQAO6rTwLpYCSdXW0ZCvxU0FtPmaxerKQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
Message-ID: <4A007024.8060401@nerd.com>

Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:
> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> Are you having problems with ypbind (client) or with ypserv (server)?
>>
>> I had quite some amount of problems in getting ypbind going with FC11, 
>> until I found, I now have to fill /etc/yp.conf and to add NISDOMAIN to 
>> /etc/sysconfig/network.
>>
>> In FC10, setting NISDOMAIN in /etc/sysconfig/network had been sufficient.
>>
> Just the client.  It apparently is hard coded to check with 
> NetworkManager via DBUS on the status of network connections.  
> NetworkManager is turned off on the system so ypbind couldn't ever bind 
> to the NIS domain.  I've created /etc/sysconfig/ypbind containing:
> OTHER_YPBIND_OPTS="-no-dbus"
> 
> Now it functions correctly and doesn't depend on NetworkManager.

Does anyone else find it odd that ypbind (necessary for network-based
logins via NIS) is dependent on a service that will not start until a
user is already logged in?  Ditto for anything authenticating off a
remote LDAP server.  Can you say "Catch-22"?

If we're still futzing with the installation options for Anaconda, how
about providing two scenarios: one that's NM based and one that uses the
old, tried-and-true static configs and allow the user to decide which
one to use?  If you feel it necessary, you could even make the NM one
the default, but give installers the option to use static.

This would also help with the inability to log in as root under GDM.
If all your user accounts are NIS- or LDAP-based AND you can't
authenticate because the network is down and NM hasn't started AND you
can't log in as root under GDM, you're kinda, well, screwed unless
you're clever enough to use ALT-F2 or something on a text console.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer                      ricks at nerd.com -
- AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 22643734            Yahoo: origrps2 -
-                                                                    -
-                   Never try to outstubborn a cat.                  -
----------------------------------------------------------------------



From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Tue May  5 17:43:45 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 23:13:45 +0530
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <4A007024.8060401@nerd.com>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
	<4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>
	<CtV4x70OtC6X73BBpjxI3zQAO6rTwLpYCSdXW0ZCvxU0FtPmaxerKQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
	<4A007024.8060401@nerd.com>
Message-ID: <89bdee5a0905051043g66c4bdacxad7a53ce35a9db9f@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Rick Stevens <ricks at nerd.com> wrote:
> Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:

> authenticate because the network is down and NM hasn't started AND you
> can't log in as root under GDM, you're kinda, well, screwed unless
> you're clever enough to use ALT-F2 or something on a text console.

IMHO anybody who doesn't know how to use Alt+F2 to get a console
should never be able to login as root via gdm or anywhere else. They
could seriously mess up the system. No offense meant, but as an admin
I would want it that way.



-- 
Gireesh



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 17:20:38 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:20:38 -0700
Subject: yum question
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905051020u555a29e8ia5c100d851580b09@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Seth:

A timestamp of _what_?

When the pkg was built?
When the pkg was added to the repository?

I would like it to be when it is added to the repository?  Maybe two columns
added:
1) Timestamp of current package
2) Timestamp of updated package

Sincerely,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/fc14e759/attachment.htm>

From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 17:53:46 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:53:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: yum question
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10905051020u555a29e8ia5c100d851580b09@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905051020u555a29e8ia5c100d851580b09@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905051352580.16363@localhost.localdomain>



On Tue, 5 May 2009, Rob Healey wrote:

> Dear Seth:
> 
> A timestamp of _what_?
> 
> When the pkg was built?
> When the pkg was added to the repository?
> 
> I would like it to be when it is added to the repository?? Maybe two columns added:
> 1) Timestamp of current package
> 2) Timestamp of updated package

the 'added to the repository' data is not available additionally, it's 
pretty arbitrary.

what is it you're hoping to do with this information?
-sv

From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May  5 18:03:25 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:03:25 -0700
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <00151750e520e27c39046928d6c3@google.com>
References: <00151750e520e27c39046928d6c3@google.com>
Message-ID: <1241546605.2923.317.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 11:47 +0000, greg.lumpkin at gmail.com wrote:
> It hasn't worked in a Linux distro unfortunately, but it did under
> Windows XP. It looked like the newer Gnome Bluetooth app in FC11 might
> have helped, but didn't. It appears when I issue the hcitool scan
> command. I'll check lspci tonight... 

FWIW, I have a Bluetooth mouse too. I can pair it in GNOME, but that
never made it work. After a bit I found a voodoo (i.e. I don't
understand it, so it's like voodoo to me) hcid command on some random
webpage, and ran that. Ever since then, every time the mouse is turned
on and near the laptop, it works. It doesn't show up in any of the GNOME
information stuff, but all I have to do is turn the mouse on and it
works.

So I've no idea why the hell it's working, which bugs me. But it does
work...

that's on my laptop, which runs F10.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From caf at omen.com  Tue May  5 18:07:04 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:07:04 -0700
Subject: Still no Mixer in Gnome if Xfce not installed
Message-ID: <4A008048.30406@omen.com>

The title says it all.

Not a problem for me as I can remember to include xfce when
installing Fedora.  But for lusers it just doesn't work.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Tue May  5 18:07:02 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:07:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: xsane just sits there, sucking up CPU
In-Reply-To: <1241541543.6026.37.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905051158240.2922@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241541543.6026.37.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905051406410.5172@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 5 May 2009, Christopher Beland wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 11:59 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > i'm still on f11 x86_64 beta, and i invoked xsane which, in its
> > initial dialog window, recognized my multi-function samsung laser
> > printer, but since then, "top" shows that it's just sucking up around
> > 100% of the CPU but not displaying any further windows.  is this a
> > known issue?  i just fully updated.  anything else i should be
> > checking?  thanks.
>
> You might try the latest version when it hits the mirrors.  From the
> latest Rawhide Report:

  grabbed the latest build from koji, that seemed to fix it, thanks.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May  5 18:10:30 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:10:30 -0700
Subject: Revised draft of priority / severity mail to -devel list
In-Reply-To: <1241542141.6026.41.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1241200827.2811.25.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1241542141.6026.41.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241547030.2923.318.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 12:49 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> Looks find to me, other than that:
> 
> > usually set
> > arbitrarily by reporters, and thus convey no useful information.
> 
> is offensive to some reporters.  Replacing the last phrase with "and
> thus aren't as useful to maintainers as they could be" or just omitting
> it might be more diplomatic.

Unfortunately, we sent it already.

Fortunately, being nice to reporters is not often a major consideration
on -devel-list =)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 19:08:46 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:38:46 +0530
Subject: 2009-05-07 - Fedora Test Day - Virtualization
In-Reply-To: <20090504125444.25cf54b8@tomh>
References: <1241453678.2726.76.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<20090504125444.25cf54b8@tomh>
Message-ID: <4A008EBE.4080007@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/04/2009 10:24 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 04 May 2009 12:14:38 -0400
> James Laska wrote:
> 
>> Fedora 11 hosts a number of virtualization improvements
> 
> Just out of curiosity, is "documentation" ever likely to
> show up as an improvement? :-). It took months for me
> to get to where I had a vague idea what was going on with
> Xen and how to fiddle things that weren't available directly
> in virt-manager. KVM seems to be even more undocumented
> than Xen.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_virtualization

If you have anything you find specifically missing, ask in fedora-virt
list and help improve the documentation.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 19:11:24 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:41:24 +0530
Subject: copy paste problem.
In-Reply-To: <49FF4768.2060004@nerd.com>
References: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com>	<gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org>	<1241455120.2923.104.camel@adam.local.net>	<f6ca9fed0905040943q65bde863yae52747397ccc5ac@mail.gmail.com>	<1241460240.2923.122.camel@adam.local.net>	<f6ca9fed0905041157ia895cadma691d9816dd3c1ea@mail.gmail.com>	<1241464129.2923.188.camel@adam.local.net>
	<49FF4768.2060004@nerd.com>
Message-ID: <4A008F5C.2060707@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/05/2009 01:22 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:

> Middle mouse button paste has worked for me since F7 or so under Gnome
> with or without the "source" window being open.  It even works under
> Synergy (cut from one machine, paste in another).  If it's not so in
> F11, then yeah, I'd say it's broken.

Can you file a bug report, then?

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 19:14:17 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:44:17 +0530
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1241476710.2791.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>	<1240935631.6575.19.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<1240943243.3142.31.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>	<1240951324.6575.38.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<1241468368.971.35.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<89bdee5a0905041422j785fa493s9f94a8de17011168@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241476710.2791.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A009009.70408@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/05/2009 04:08 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 02:52 +0530, Gireesh wrote:
>>> I had mistakenly assumed that this would be settable interactively.
>>> In fact I don't quite see why it isn't.
>> I rather prefer the current setup to manually specify "ext4migrate"
>> a) Since ext4 isn't backward compatible to ext3.
>> b) users when interactively prompted with a message to choose between
>> ext4 and ext3, would most of the time choose ext4 because of the
>> higher number without knowing the facts.
> 
> There's something to be said for that, however I think hiding it in the
> Anaconda options will virtually guarantee that most people, keen to try
> out their shiny new F11, simply won't see it.

I think it is better that way. A new filesystem is a big deal. People
upgrading should ideally read the documentation associated with an
upgrade to understand the details. If they don't, they are better off
with the conservative choice.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 19:16:57 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:46:57 +0530
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <81481f630905041939p543f5a10lb831290a9d0980ae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>	<20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>	<81481f630905021155s4e26ba7cx458b56ed4ba07c79@mail.gmail.com>	<23349538.post@talk.nabble.com>	<81481f630905021247qe4b4b53qb3c19603d9ae0d0d@mail.gmail.com>
	<81481f630905041939p543f5a10lb831290a9d0980ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0090A9.9030209@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/05/2009 08:09 AM, iarly selbir | ski0s wrote:
> I was talking about my problem with my 3G ( wireless broadband ), but I
> don't know what component in bugzilla to file a bug about it.
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> kernel, udev, or other?

Not sure what the problem is since you appear to be posting messages
newly instead of in the same thread but file it against the kernel and
it can be reassigned.

When you don't know which component exactly, make a best guess and file it.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 19:19:39 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:49:39 +0530
Subject: Still no Mixer in Gnome if Xfce not installed
In-Reply-To: <4A008048.30406@omen.com>
References: <4A008048.30406@omen.com>
Message-ID: <4A00914B.8010708@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/05/2009 11:37 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> The title says it all.
> 
> Not a problem for me as I can remember to include xfce when
> installing Fedora.  But for lusers it just doesn't work.

You got to be more specific. What doesn't work? Is there a bug report
filed on the issue?

Note that the legacy gst-mixer is planned to be installed by default as
a workaround for this release but it is still useful to know what you
are looking for in it.

Rahul



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Tue May  5 19:18:26 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 15:18:26 -0400
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <4A009009.70408@fedoraproject.org>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<1240935631.6575.19.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1240943243.3142.31.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<1240951324.6575.38.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1241468368.971.35.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<89bdee5a0905041422j785fa493s9f94a8de17011168@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241476710.2791.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A009009.70408@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1241551106.2791.25.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 00:44 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/05/2009 04:08 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 02:52 +0530, Gireesh wrote:
> >>> I had mistakenly assumed that this would be settable interactively.
> >>> In fact I don't quite see why it isn't.
> >> I rather prefer the current setup to manually specify "ext4migrate"
> >> a) Since ext4 isn't backward compatible to ext3.
> >> b) users when interactively prompted with a message to choose between
> >> ext4 and ext3, would most of the time choose ext4 because of the
> >> higher number without knowing the facts.
> > 
> > There's something to be said for that, however I think hiding it in the
> > Anaconda options will virtually guarantee that most people, keen to try
> > out their shiny new F11, simply won't see it.
> 
> I think it is better that way. A new filesystem is a big deal. People
> upgrading should ideally read the documentation associated with an
> upgrade to understand the details. If they don't, they are better off
> with the conservative choice.

While I don't argue with that, in my case I had read fairly extensively
on ext4 and did want to use it. My confusion didn't arise from not
knowing the implications of ext4, but of not understanding this specific
detail of Anaconda, which is not the same thing.

Anyway, what's done is done. I guess I'll just fiddle with the mount
options.

poc



From greg.lumpkin at gmail.com  Tue May  5 19:24:38 2009
From: greg.lumpkin at gmail.com (greg.lumpkin at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 19:24:38 +0000
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1241546605.2923.317.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <001636283960d6e33c04692f3abe@google.com>

Yeah, I found that same voo doo on the Internet as well, but my success  
with it wasn't as good as yours. I could get the mouse to work by issuing  
some command in a terminal session, but when I turned the mouse off and  
back on, it didn't automatically connect back.

Either way, it never showed up in the Gnome app.

G


On May 5, 2009 2:03pm, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 11:47 +0000, greg.lumpkin at gmail.com wrote:


> > It hasn't worked in a Linux distro unfortunately, but it did under


> > Windows XP. It looked like the newer Gnome Bluetooth app in FC11 might


> > have helped, but didn't. It appears when I issue the hcitool scan


> > command. I'll check lspci tonight...





> FWIW, I have a Bluetooth mouse too. I can pair it in GNOME, but that


> never made it work. After a bit I found a voodoo (ie I don't


> understand it, so it's like voodoo to me) hcid command on some random


> webpage, and ran that. Ever since then, every time the mouse is turned


> on and near the laptop, it works. It doesn't show up in any of the GNOME


> information stuff, but all I have to do is turn the mouse on and it


> works.





> So I've no idea why the hell it's working, which bugs me. But it does


> work...





> that's on my laptop, which runs F10.


> --


> Adam Williamson


> Fedora QA Community Monkey


> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org


> http://www.happyassassin.net





> --


> fedora-test-list mailing list


> fedora-test-list at redhat.com


> To unsubscribe:


> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list



-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/ca421654/attachment.htm>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May  5 19:29:47 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 12:29:47 -0700
Subject: Still no Mixer in Gnome if Xfce not installed
In-Reply-To: <4A00914B.8010708@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A008048.30406@omen.com>  <4A00914B.8010708@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1241551787.2923.321.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 00:49 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/05/2009 11:37 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> > The title says it all.
> > 
> > Not a problem for me as I can remember to include xfce when
> > installing Fedora.  But for lusers it just doesn't work.
> 
> You got to be more specific. What doesn't work? Is there a bug report
> filed on the issue?
> 
> Note that the legacy gst-mixer is planned to be installed by default as
> a workaround for this release but it is still useful to know what you
> are looking for in it.

I made the adjustments to comps just a few hours ago. From now on,
Rawhide (and future F11 pre-release) installs should install gst-mixer
by default in GNOME, along with gnome-volume-control. pavucontrol will
no longer be installed by default.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 19:35:55 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 01:05:55 +0530
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <4A007024.8060401@nerd.com>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>	<4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>	<CtV4x70OtC6X73BBpjxI3zQAO6rTwLpYCSdXW0ZCvxU0FtPmaxerKQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
	<4A007024.8060401@nerd.com>
Message-ID: <4A00951B.9000206@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/05/2009 10:28 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

> Does anyone else find it odd that ypbind (necessary for network-based
> logins via NIS) is dependent on a service that will not start until a
> user is already logged in?  Ditto for anything authenticating off a
> remote LDAP server.  Can you say "Catch-22"?

You can say "bug". Of course, we should fixing the bugs instead of
shipping two methods, either with their own set of bugs. Please report
issues you find.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 19:38:06 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 01:08:06 +0530
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1241551106.2791.25.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>	<1240935631.6575.19.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<1240943243.3142.31.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>	<1240951324.6575.38.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<1241468368.971.35.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<89bdee5a0905041422j785fa493s9f94a8de17011168@mail.gmail.com>	<1241476710.2791.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<4A009009.70408@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241551106.2791.25.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A00959E.407@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/06/2009 12:48 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> While I don't argue with that, in my case I had read fairly extensively
> on ext4 and did want to use it. My confusion didn't arise from not
> knowing the implications of ext4, but of not understanding this specific
> detail of Anaconda, which is not the same thing.
> 
> Anyway, what's done is done. I guess I'll just fiddle with the mount
> options.

If I can improve the documentation in anyway to help in this (which is
the goal of the Ext4 FAQ), please let me know.

Rahul



From fabiolocati at gmail.com  Tue May  5 19:49:05 2009
From: fabiolocati at gmail.com (Fabio Locati)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 21:49:05 +0200
Subject: Problems with Flash Plugin
Message-ID: <3d9482340905051249k2353488fja0afe48d9721f5be@mail.gmail.com>

After I have installed the Flash plugin, Arora and Firefox crush after
~10 seconds. These are the logs:

[fale at localhost ~]$ firefox
sh: acroread: command not found
/usr/lib/firefox-3.5b4/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  4018 Segmentation
fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[fale at localhost ~]$ arora
Oxygen style has been detected, loading Plastique style.
 - KDE's 4.2's Oxygen style has too many issues with Qt 4.5 features
that Arora uses and while many of the issues have been fixed for KDE
4.3, KDE 4.2 users get a really ugly Arora. Once KDE 4.3 is released
this check will be removed. If you are still want to use Oxygen add
the arguments -style oxygen on the command line.
sh: acroread: command not found

(process:4124): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_clipboard_get_for_display:
assertion `display != NULL' failed
Adobe Flash Player: gtk_clipboard_get(GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY); failed.
Trying to call gtk_init(0,0);

(<unknown>:4124): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_get_origin: assertion
`GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
Segmentation fault
[fale at localhost ~]$

Hope to be usefull,
Fabio A Locati

-- 
Fabio A Locati

Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1)
Phone: +39-328-3799681
MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabiolocati at gmail.com

PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334

Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Tue May  5 19:52:01 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:52:01 +0100
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <001636283960d6e33c04692f3abe@google.com>
References: <1241546605.2923.317.camel@adam.local.net>
	<001636283960d6e33c04692f3abe@google.com>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0905051252r1ff0f08bh3603c6af9cfef3f7@mail.gmail.com>

> Yeah, I found that same voo doo on the Internet as well, but my success with
> it wasn't as good as yours. I could get the mouse to work by issuing some
> command in a terminal session, but when I turned the mouse off and back on,
> it didn't automatically connect back.
>
> Either way, it never showed up in the Gnome app.

Do you have gnome-bluetooth installed? If you put the mouse into
connect mode does it show up when you right click on the bluetooth
applet and select "setup new device" ?

Peter



From davidsen at tmr.com  Tue May  5 20:46:04 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:46:04 -0400
Subject: Can't stop log
In-Reply-To: <20090501165956.GC4634@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>
References: <20090430205223.GA13002@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>	<52199.4307.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<20090501165956.GC4634@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>
Message-ID: <4A00A58C.5060402@tmr.com>

max wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 02:19:34PM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>> -- 
>> Martin first reported the shutdown troubles here:
>>
>> http://www.nabble.com/Rawhide---shutdown-not-working-to23074751.html
>>
>> and posted his hardware as well.  
>>
>> I have encountered this on several of my rawhide machines, but not all of them :)
>>
>> One which I did encounter this is :
>>
>> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_f15ce4e7-e658-4ea2-bd89-4f9b8b1d645e
>>
>> and this one too:
>>
>> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_808fc0dc-61b4-4f57-a41a-62cdc710058d
>>
> 
> The only common element that jumps out at me is that all the machines have wireless interfaces. A source of trouble with linux if ever there was one, however I have just been bitten by this bug for the first time now,make that twice. This box doesn't have wireless so there goes that idea. Its the xserver i'm guessing, it hangs when I logout from ssh too but only if I use an app like gthumb or firefox. If I only run emacs then no problems it just logs right out. Reminds me to follow up on the other thread since FF works now. Anyone know what emacs does different from a graphical presentation standpoint than say FF or gThumb?It would seem that it does something the others do not when it closes its  window. Since this isn't a problem from the console or shutting down from gdm, I would guess Xserver issue but I don't recall if anyone mentioned their desktop enviro or not, is this affecting KDE and XFCE as well? Anyway its just a guess since I could fit what I know about thr xse
rver on a business card in large fonts :^)
> 
No, I see it on one laptop, one server, one little Shuttle firewall box, and KVM 
virtual machines. I see it in both 32 and 64 bit versions. What mine  have in 
common is that they are running GNOME, nothing more.

THIS JUST IN: I installed the new stuff which came in overnight, kernel, 
initscripts, selinux policy, plymouth, lots of possibly related stuff. Since the 
upgrade shutdown and reboot have worked flawlessly. tested in the VM (never 
rebooted before), the laptop (64 bit) and the firewall (32 bit).

Smells pretty good to me. Confirmation please? Or am I just lucky?


-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From bobgus at rcn.com  Tue May  5 20:51:01 2009
From: bobgus at rcn.com (Bob Gustafson)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 15:51:01 -0500
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <4A009009.70408@fedoraproject.org>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<1240935631.6575.19.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1240943243.3142.31.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<1240951324.6575.38.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1241468368.971.35.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<89bdee5a0905041422j785fa493s9f94a8de17011168@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241476710.2791.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A009009.70408@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1241556661.12887.11.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 00:44 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/05/2009 04:08 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 02:52 +0530, Gireesh wrote:
> >>> I had mistakenly assumed that this would be settable interactively.
> >>> In fact I don't quite see why it isn't.
> >> I rather prefer the current setup to manually specify "ext4migrate"
> >> a) Since ext4 isn't backward compatible to ext3.
> >> b) users when interactively prompted with a message to choose between
> >> ext4 and ext3, would most of the time choose ext4 because of the
> >> higher number without knowing the facts.
> > 
> > There's something to be said for that, however I think hiding it in the
> > Anaconda options will virtually guarantee that most people, keen to try
> > out their shiny new F11, simply won't see it.
> 
> I think it is better that way. A new filesystem is a big deal. People
> upgrading should ideally read the documentation associated with an
> upgrade to understand the details. If they don't, they are better off
> with the conservative choice.
> 
> Rahul
> 

Is there any way to decouple the upgrade to ext4 from the Anaconda
upgrade to F11. Some folks might like to upgrade to ext4 before the F11
upgrade, others would like to upgrade after their F11 upgrade is
successful. Perhaps also after /boot can be ext4 too.

What with RAID and all, upgrading to F11 has enough testing branches
without adding whether the user is going to ext4 or not.

A straight install of F11, without an upgrade of existing disk
partitions is a no brain ext4 install too. However, with /boot needing
ext3...

A straight install of F11, with existing (empty) partitions, perhaps
with RAID, could be ext4. However, with /boot needing ext3...

----

I'm for running ext4 upgrade separately from Fn -> F11.

Is there anything in F11 that absolutely depends on ext4??



From JCasale at activenetwerx.com  Tue May  5 20:51:57 2009
From: JCasale at activenetwerx.com (Joseph L. Casale)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:51:57 +0000
Subject: Intel 3100 Video and full screen video
Message-ID: <ABF9510930E1374BA4B4C61A01104FBD0523DC@Monterossa.activenetwerx.local>

For about two weeks now, if I full screen a video in either totem
or vlc on my x64 system, it hangs. I looked through bugzilla but
didn't see anything new that I could be sure was applicable. Anyone
else seeing this or know about it before I file a bug?

Thanks!
jlc



From davidsen at tmr.com  Tue May  5 20:54:35 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:54:35 -0400
Subject: Jigdo and the release day
Message-ID: <4A00A78B.7090802@tmr.com>

I have here the beta ISO, the snapshot ISO, and the contents of /var/cache/yum 
which I run with cleanup off. When the final release day comes, is there a way I 
can tell jigdo to use that combination to reduce the network traffic and server 
load?

RELATED: can I do some magic on /var/cache/yum to get the old install DVD to use 
the new stuff? My test with createrepo seemed to generate a local repo which 
worked for after the fact install and update, I'm just trying to avoid 
installing obsolete packages and blowing them away again, on a slow machine that 
really rots.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Tue May  5 20:51:00 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:51:00 -0400
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1241556660.2791.32.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 21:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have put up a FAQ at
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11
> 
> I will be expanding this over time. If you have other unanswered
> questions, do let me know.

I'd suggest converting the phrase "Anaconda boot option" into a link to
more info on boot options, e.g.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options, except that there
doesn't seem to be anything about ext4migrate on that page.

Cheers

poc



From greg.lumpkin at gmail.com  Tue May  5 21:03:25 2009
From: greg.lumpkin at gmail.com (Greg Lumpkin)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 17:03:25 -0400
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <4489a22a0905042254w440cf95cxc63ee7bcad129edd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef6d7e740905042010k6e36e605j7c8359dae9bc7fe7@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20905042033o2c40892aifacaa5d6c2e87a2f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4489a22a0905042254w440cf95cxc63ee7bcad129edd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef6d7e740905051403p64632a4fq1298556c1e4ef7e4@mail.gmail.com>

Nope, didn't help.  Thanks anyway...


On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Alberto Patino <pato.lukaz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Check you have this:
>
> cat /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth
> # Enable this to use hid2hci to switch a Bluetooth device in USB HID mode
> # to HCI mode for Bluetooth operation.
> HID2HCI_ENABLE=true
>
> # Enable this to switch capable devices back to HID mode on Bluetooth
> shutdown
> HID2HCI_UNDO=true
>
> stot and srtart bluetooth service
>
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Greg Lumpkin <greg.lumpkin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Good evening all,
>> >
>> > I have F11 Preview installed on my Compaq N800w laptop.  For some
>> reason,
>> > Bluetooth is showing as disabled in the Gnome applet, but under
>> services, it
>> > is showing as enabled and running.
>> >
>> > When I click on Turn On Bluetooth in Bluetooth Preferences, nothing
>> > happens.  This is preventing me from pairing with my Logitech Bluetooth
>> > Travel Mouse.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>>
>> More info might help..
>> did it work previously on linux? version(s)?
>> meaningful hardware data from messages?
>> lspci? etc.
>>
>> jerry
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Don't be evil!!!
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/acd04841/attachment.htm>

From bobgus at rcn.com  Tue May  5 21:03:12 2009
From: bobgus at rcn.com (Bob Gustafson)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:03:12 -0500
Subject: Jigdo and the release day
In-Reply-To: <4A00A78B.7090802@tmr.com>
References: <4A00A78B.7090802@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <1241557392.12887.17.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 16:54 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> I have here the beta ISO, the snapshot ISO, and the contents of /var/cache/yum 
> which I run with cleanup off. When the final release day comes, is there a way I 
> can tell jigdo to use that combination to reduce the network traffic and server 
> load?
> 
> RELATED: can I do some magic on /var/cache/yum to get the old install DVD to use 
> the new stuff? My test with createrepo seemed to generate a local repo which 
> worked for after the fact install and update, I'm just trying to avoid 
> installing obsolete packages and blowing them away again, on a slow machine that 
> really rots.
> 
> -- 
> Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
>    "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
> the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
> 

I think it is possible to use an old DVD (such as a test preview disk)
as one of the repositories for jigdo. Then you only need to download
component rpms that are newer than what is on the DVD.

In theory, you could use this process to get increasingly more recent
test DVDs, using the last test DVD as a repository. You only need to
download the changes. Would speed up the Test-Change-Test cycle too.



From greg.lumpkin at gmail.com  Tue May  5 21:04:46 2009
From: greg.lumpkin at gmail.com (Greg Lumpkin)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 17:04:46 -0400
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1241525363.2466.4.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <000e0cd3525e71b2b0046928e1ef@google.com>
	<1241525363.2466.4.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <ef6d7e740905051404x4d694765ie416e32ced42bb2b@mail.gmail.com>

Didn't help...  :-(

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:09 AM, James Laska <jlaska at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 11:50 +0000, greg.lumpkin at gmail.com wrote:
> > No hardware switch on this laptop. Thanks for the reply though...
>
> I noticed a similar behavior last week.  I believe during a previous
> test day, I had the bluetooth service disabled.  As a result, I could
> right-click and activate bluetooth from the desktop, but it wouldn't
> fully start due to the bluetooth service being disabled.  The problem
> was addressed for me by starting bluetooth:
>
>        # chkconfig bluetooth on
>        # service bluetooth start
>
> Unclear if this is the same problem you are experiencing, hope this
> helps.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> > >
> > > You don't have a hardware rfkill switch that's switched off by
> > chance?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter
> > --
> > fedora-test-list mailing list
> > fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > To unsubscribe:
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/c3397604/attachment.htm>

From ricks at nerd.com  Tue May  5 21:06:18 2009
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:06:18 -0700
Subject: copy paste problem.
In-Reply-To: <4A008F5C.2060707@fedoraproject.org>
References: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com>	<gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org>	<1241455120.2923.104.camel@adam.local.net>	<f6ca9fed0905040943q65bde863yae52747397ccc5ac@mail.gmail.com>	<1241460240.2923.122.camel@adam.local.net>	<f6ca9fed0905041157ia895cadma691d9816dd3c1ea@mail.gmail.com>	<1241464129.2923.188.camel@adam.local.net>	<49FF4768.2060004@nerd.com>
	<4A008F5C.2060707@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4A00AA4A.30906@nerd.com>

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/05/2009 01:22 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> 
>> Middle mouse button paste has worked for me since F7 or so under Gnome
>> with or without the "source" window being open.  It even works under
>> Synergy (cut from one machine, paste in another).  If it's not so in
>> F11, then yeah, I'd say it's broken.
> 
> Can you file a bug report, then?

Er, I'm not the OP, just commenting on other peoples' experiences.
Sorry, Rahul.  Probably shouldn't have stuck my oar in.

However, I may have run into something similar.  VERY rarely when using
gnome-terminals, middle-mouse-button pastes don't work--even with both
the source and destination windows open.  A CTRL-V to paste works.  If
I do a "reset" in the destination gnome-terminal, it works again.

Like I said, that's really rare.  I think I've seen it twice in almost
a year, and that may have been caused by the cat stomping on some key
sequence that gronked it (my cat seems to like my keyboard...probably
chasing the mouse around).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer                      ricks at nerd.com -
- AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 22643734            Yahoo: origrps2 -
-                                                                    -
-            I'm afraid my karma just ran over your dogma            -
----------------------------------------------------------------------



From davidsen at tmr.com  Tue May  5 21:25:58 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:25:58 -0400
Subject: Where has soundcard control gone?
Message-ID: <4A00AEE6.2080205@tmr.com>

I have a machine which has been running FC4 then FC6. I finally decided 
to go to FC11 with it, since it is an NFS and sound server for the 
computer lab. And I found that all the exciting sound stuff doesn't seem 
to have a control for sound card mode. Looking at my FC6 notes (yes, 
old) I say "bring up the mode menu and select between the 2 channel, 
four channel, and 4+center config. The 8 channel isn't better enough to 
justify more speakers."

Only I can't find anywhere to set the card mode, which under FC6 is 
4+center, and FC11 is "rear only."

Where is it hidden? W isn't it obvious?

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
  "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From greg.lumpkin at gmail.com  Tue May  5 21:31:57 2009
From: greg.lumpkin at gmail.com (Greg Lumpkin)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 17:31:57 -0400
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0905051252r1ff0f08bh3603c6af9cfef3f7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1241546605.2923.317.camel@adam.local.net>
	<001636283960d6e33c04692f3abe@google.com>
	<5256d0b0905051252r1ff0f08bh3603c6af9cfef3f7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef6d7e740905051431h6779397etb20bf8da38c385b0@mail.gmail.com>

Hmm...I have gnome-bluez installed.  Is that what you mean?  I did notice
two packages that were not installed, but looked like they should be.  They
were:

bluez-gnome (Bluetooth pairing and control applet) and

libbtctl (Library for the GNOME Bluetooth Subsystem)

I installed them but still nothing.

I did notice that in Network Device Control, the pan0 interface is inactive
(probably because no device is connected) but the weirdest thing is that in
Network Configuration, there is no description for the interface on the
Hardware tab.  The wireless card and the Ethernet port both show Atheros and
Intel respectively.

G

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Yeah, I found that same voo doo on the Internet as well, but my success
> with
> > it wasn't as good as yours. I could get the mouse to work by issuing some
> > command in a terminal session, but when I turned the mouse off and back
> on,
> > it didn't automatically connect back.
> >
> > Either way, it never showed up in the Gnome app.
>
> Do you have gnome-bluetooth installed? If you put the mouse into
> connect mode does it show up when you right click on the bluetooth
> applet and select "setup new device" ?
>
> Peter
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/12ab1b67/attachment.htm>

From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Tue May  5 21:32:13 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:32:13 -0400
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1241556661.12887.11.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<1240935631.6575.19.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1240943243.3142.31.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
	<1240951324.6575.38.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1241468368.971.35.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<89bdee5a0905041422j785fa493s9f94a8de17011168@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241476710.2791.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A009009.70408@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241556661.12887.11.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
Message-ID: <1241559133.2791.35.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 15:51 -0500, Bob Gustafson wrote:
> Is there any way to decouple the upgrade to ext4 from the Anaconda
> upgrade to F11. Some folks might like to upgrade to ext4 before the
> F11
> upgrade, others would like to upgrade after their F11 upgrade is
> successful. Perhaps also after /boot can be ext4 too.

The FAQ explains how to convert after installing F11. In fact I just
followed the instructions and it worked fine. I presume it would also
work pre-installation (ext4 is supported on F10).

poc



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 21:36:17 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:36:17 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Recap for 2009-05-05
Message-ID: <4A00B151.80601@gmail.com>

The meeting recap and full IRC transcript can be found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-05

Please make any corrections and clarifications to that page.

= Bug Triage Meeting :: 2009-05-05 =

== Attendees ==
* adamw
* arxs
* jeremy
* mcepl
* rislam
* stickster
* tk009

== Topics of Discussion ==

* Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/ - 
Thanks to some helpful folks on the python ml, the needed changes to the 
metrics code has been completed. adamw will co-ordinate will comphappy 
to get some data up for testing.

* Severity/priority - 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend
-mcepl sent the "Feedback Request" to the -devel list during the meeting.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-May/msg00266.html

* Introduction Email SOP - tk009 will add the intro email SOP to the 
bugzappers wiki space and create a category and a link to the document 
on the main SOP page created by poelcat.


TK009



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Tue May  5 21:37:25 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 22:37:25 +0100
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <ef6d7e740905051431h6779397etb20bf8da38c385b0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1241546605.2923.317.camel@adam.local.net>
	<001636283960d6e33c04692f3abe@google.com>
	<5256d0b0905051252r1ff0f08bh3603c6af9cfef3f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<ef6d7e740905051431h6779397etb20bf8da38c385b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0905051437h2ca100cbldd6b9e2f140187d2@mail.gmail.com>

> Hmm...I have gnome-bluez installed.? Is that what you mean?? I did notice
> two packages that were not installed, but looked like they should be.? They
> were:

No, I mean gnome-bluetooth. On F11 preview I have the following
bluetooth packages installed and it works fine for me (well for a
headset, phone and a couple of other devices, but no mouse).

# rpm -qa | grep blue
gnome-bluetooth-2.27.4-3.fc11.x86_64
bluez-4.37-1.fc11.x86_64
bluecurve-cursor-theme-8.0.2-3.fc11.noarch
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-0.9.15-11.fc11.x86_64
bluez-libs-4.37-1.fc11.x86_64
bluez-cups-4.37-1.fc11.x86_64
bluez-alsa-4.37-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-bluetooth-libs-2.27.4-3.fc11.x86_64

Cheers,
Peter



From greg.lumpkin at gmail.com  Tue May  5 21:37:44 2009
From: greg.lumpkin at gmail.com (Greg Lumpkin)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 17:37:44 -0400
Subject: Startup Sound breaks up
Message-ID: <ef6d7e740905051437g649522f8kb21577be3cca5255@mail.gmail.com>

Minor issue, but the startup sound in F11 breaks up while playing on my
Compaq Evo N800w.  I've applied all available updates so far...

G
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/b106ce54/attachment.htm>

From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 21:55:54 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 03:25:54 +0530
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1241556660.2791.32.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241556660.2791.32.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A00B5EA.2090604@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/06/2009 02:21 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 21:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have put up a FAQ at
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11
>>
>> I will be expanding this over time. If you have other unanswered
>> questions, do let me know.
> 
> I'd suggest converting the phrase "Anaconda boot option" into a link to
> more info on boot options, e.g.
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options, except that there
> doesn't seem to be anything about ext4migrate on that page.

I have added a link and documented the changes in the options page as
well. Thanks.

Rahul



From kdekorte at gmail.com  Tue May  5 21:45:15 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 15:45:15 -0600
Subject: Startup Sound breaks up
In-Reply-To: <ef6d7e740905051437g649522f8kb21577be3cca5255@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef6d7e740905051437g649522f8kb21577be3cca5255@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A00B36B.4030801@gmail.com>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 05/05/2009 03:37 PM, Greg Lumpkin wrote:
> Minor issue, but the startup sound in F11 breaks up while playing on my
> Compaq Evo N800w.  I've applied all available updates so far...
> 
> G
> 

Same here on my desktop... only time the sound ever breaks up.

intel_hda card.

Kevin


- -- 
Get my public GnuPG key from
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7D0BD5D1
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iEYEARECAAYFAkoAs2sACgkQ6w2kMH0L1dHs1ACfS3EeOQ+Q+D6mtDsT+iI/5OzT
pjIAoIR5fIyXsfenYyPMnqPJwDSUXlMT
=EZQF
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 21:58:29 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 03:28:29 +0530
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1241556661.12887.11.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>	<1240935631.6575.19.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<1240943243.3142.31.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>	<1240951324.6575.38.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<1241468368.971.35.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<89bdee5a0905041422j785fa493s9f94a8de17011168@mail.gmail.com>	<1241476710.2791.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<4A009009.70408@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241556661.12887.11.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
Message-ID: <4A00B685.4030108@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/06/2009 02:21 AM, Bob Gustafson wrote:
> 
> Is there any way to decouple the upgrade to ext4 from the Anaconda
> upgrade to F11. Some folks might like to upgrade to ext4 before the F11
> upgrade, others would like to upgrade after their F11 upgrade is
> successful. Perhaps also after /boot can be ext4 too.

Your question is actually already answered in the FAQ but I will explain
again. Anaconda retains the Ext3 filesystem on a upgrade unless there is
a specific option "ext4migrate" passed to it. The FAQ explains the
procedure for the manual migration as well.

> I'm for running ext4 upgrade separately from Fn -> F11.
> 
> Is there anything in F11 that absolutely depends on ext4??

Nothing.

Rahul



From greg.lumpkin at gmail.com  Tue May  5 21:56:04 2009
From: greg.lumpkin at gmail.com (Greg Lumpkin)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 17:56:04 -0400
Subject: Startup Sound breaks up
In-Reply-To: <4A00B36B.4030801@gmail.com>
References: <ef6d7e740905051437g649522f8kb21577be3cca5255@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A00B36B.4030801@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef6d7e740905051456i5c601f71nb2fff55e33cac856@mail.gmail.com>

Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)



On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kevin DeKorte <kdekorte at gmail.com> wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 05/05/2009 03:37 PM, Greg Lumpkin wrote:
> > Minor issue, but the startup sound in F11 breaks up while playing on my
> > Compaq Evo N800w.  I've applied all available updates so far...
> >
> > G
> >
>
> Same here on my desktop... only time the sound ever breaks up.
>
> intel_hda card.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> - --
> Get my public GnuPG key from
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7D0BD5D1
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
>
> iEYEARECAAYFAkoAs2sACgkQ6w2kMH0L1dHs1ACfS3EeOQ+Q+D6mtDsT+iI/5OzT
> pjIAoIR5fIyXsfenYyPMnqPJwDSUXlMT
> =EZQF
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/7e4a21cd/attachment.htm>

From ricks at nerd.com  Tue May  5 21:56:47 2009
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:56:47 -0700
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <4A00951B.9000206@fedoraproject.org>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>	<4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>	<CtV4x70OtC6X73BBpjxI3zQAO6rTwLpYCSdXW0ZCvxU0FtPmaxerKQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>	<4A007024.8060401@nerd.com>
	<4A00951B.9000206@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4A00B61F.5000607@nerd.com>

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/05/2009 10:28 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone else find it odd that ypbind (necessary for network-based
>> logins via NIS) is dependent on a service that will not start until a
>> user is already logged in?  Ditto for anything authenticating off a
>> remote LDAP server.  Can you say "Catch-22"?
> 
> You can say "bug". Of course, we should fixing the bugs instead of
> shipping two methods, either with their own set of bugs. Please report
> issues you find.

I don't know that I'd call it a bug.  NM works okay (when you ignore its
other bugs) IF you've got a desktop session going.  Problem is, if you
authenticate off LDAP or NIS/NIS+, you'll never get a desktop session
because you can't authenticate.  There's the catch-22 of it.

Now, if you use a static config that meets NM's requirements and it can
make a network connection before users log in, it's fine.  Problem is
that those requirements are undocumented.  I know how to make it work
because I've looked at NM's source, but others may not.

So, that's why I suggest letting an installer choose a static network
config (using the old /etc/rc.d/init.d/network stuff and removing
requirements for ypbind and its brethren to talk to NM over dbus) or an
NM-based setup.  It depends on how they want the thing to work.  I work
on so many different network configs (VPNs, tunnels, multiple NICs,
different wireless networks, etc.) that NM is more of a bloody nuisance
than anything else.  80% of the time it's disabled on my laptops and
it's always disabled on my desktop machines (all seven of them).

As far as documentation is concerned...I did offer my services to write
a man page, HOWTO and basic user docs for NM, but my offers were either
ignored or never reached NM's maintainers.  I know I can do it on the 
side (because I'm a nice chap), but at the time NM was a frantically
moving target and anything I wrote was obsoleted by changes made in NM
in the next version.  I did the human thing and punted.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer                      ricks at nerd.com -
- AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 22643734            Yahoo: origrps2 -
-                                                                    -
-                       When in doubt, mumble.                       -
----------------------------------------------------------------------



From greg.lumpkin at gmail.com  Tue May  5 22:01:31 2009
From: greg.lumpkin at gmail.com (Greg Lumpkin)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:01:31 -0400
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0905051437h2ca100cbldd6b9e2f140187d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1241546605.2923.317.camel@adam.local.net>
	<001636283960d6e33c04692f3abe@google.com>
	<5256d0b0905051252r1ff0f08bh3603c6af9cfef3f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<ef6d7e740905051431h6779397etb20bf8da38c385b0@mail.gmail.com>
	<5256d0b0905051437h2ca100cbldd6b9e2f140187d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef6d7e740905051501i343e5b2bl9c41aa4136075a30@mail.gmail.com>

My list:

pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-0.9.15-11.fc11.i586
gnome-bluetooth-libs-2.27.4-3.fc11.i586
bluecurve-cursor-theme-8.0.2-3.fc11.noarch
bluez-4.37-1.fc11.i586
bluez-libs-4.37-1.fc11.i586
bluez-cups-4.37-1.fc11.i586
gnome-bluetooth-2.27.4-3.fc11.i586

All except for the alsa and your system being 64-bit, mine looks right....


On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Hmm...I have gnome-bluez installed.  Is that what you mean?  I did notice
> > two packages that were not installed, but looked like they should be.
> They
> > were:
>
> No, I mean gnome-bluetooth. On F11 preview I have the following
> bluetooth packages installed and it works fine for me (well for a
> headset, phone and a couple of other devices, but no mouse).
>
> # rpm -qa | grep blue
> gnome-bluetooth-2.27.4-3.fc11.x86_64
> bluez-4.37-1.fc11.x86_64
> bluecurve-cursor-theme-8.0.2-3.fc11.noarch
> pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-0.9.15-11.fc11.x86_64
> bluez-libs-4.37-1.fc11.x86_64
> bluez-cups-4.37-1.fc11.x86_64
> bluez-alsa-4.37-1.fc11.x86_64
> gnome-bluetooth-libs-2.27.4-3.fc11.x86_64
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/83e513d9/attachment.htm>

From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 22:09:44 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 03:39:44 +0530
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <4A00B61F.5000607@nerd.com>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>	<4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>	<CtV4x70OtC6X73BBpjxI3zQAO6rTwLpYCSdXW0ZCvxU0FtPmaxerKQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>	<4A007024.8060401@nerd.com>	<4A00951B.9000206@fedoraproject.org>
	<4A00B61F.5000607@nerd.com>
Message-ID: <4A00B928.7000603@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/06/2009 03:26 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:

> I don't know that I'd call it a bug.  NM works okay (when you ignore its
> other bugs) IF you've got a desktop session going.  Problem is, if you
> authenticate off LDAP or NIS/NIS+, you'll never get a desktop session
> because you can't authenticate.  There's the catch-22 of it.

Yes, filing a bug report would be appropriate here. Please do.

> As far as documentation is concerned...I did offer my services to write
> a man page, HOWTO and basic user docs for NM, but my offers were either
> ignored or never reached NM's maintainers.  I know I can do it on the
> side (because I'm a nice chap), but at the time NM was a frantically
> moving target and anything I wrote was obsoleted by changes made in NM
> in the next version.  I did the human thing and punted.

I am not sure whether you offered your services. If you just posted to
it's listed, it never reached them since they aren't subscribed here.
You need to post to the upstream list at

http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list

Rahul



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Tue May  5 22:04:59 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 18:04:59 -0400
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <4A00B5EA.2090604@fedoraproject.org>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241556660.2791.32.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A00B5EA.2090604@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1241561099.2791.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 03:25 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/06/2009 02:21 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 21:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I have put up a FAQ at
> >>
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11
> >>
> >> I will be expanding this over time. If you have other unanswered
> >> questions, do let me know.
> > 
> > I'd suggest converting the phrase "Anaconda boot option" into a link to
> > more info on boot options, e.g.
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options, except that there
> > doesn't seem to be anything about ext4migrate on that page.
> 
> I have added a link and documented the changes in the options page as
> well. Thanks.

Stylistic suggestion:

"In Fedora 11 or above, with this option passed, Anaconda will configure
the ..."

to

"In Fedora 11 or above, configure the ..."

poc

PS I'd be happy to edit this kind of thing myself (I'm one of those
wierd people who quite enjoy copy-editing), but apparently getting a FAS
account involves sending a physical document to Fedora Orbiting HQ. It's
not practical for me to do that before F11 comes out (I live in South
America).



From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Tue May  5 22:11:18 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 03:41:18 +0530
Subject: Where has soundcard control gone?
In-Reply-To: <4A00AEE6.2080205@tmr.com>
References: <4A00AEE6.2080205@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <89bdee5a0905051511i638dcd26xd231a235e54c55d8@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:

> Where is it hidden? W isn't it obvious?

alsamixer -c0

or you can install xfce4-mixer for now.



There has been a long discussion about this so searching the ML
archives is a good idea.


-- 
Gireesh



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 22:18:37 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 03:48:37 +0530
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1241561099.2791.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>	<1241556660.2791.32.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<4A00B5EA.2090604@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241561099.2791.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A00BB3D.2090104@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/06/2009 03:34 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> PS I'd be happy to edit this kind of thing myself (I'm one of those
> wierd people who quite enjoy copy-editing), but apparently getting a FAS
> account involves sending a physical document to Fedora Orbiting HQ. It's
> not practical for me to do that before F11 comes out (I live in South
> America).

No, it doesn't. I can assure that I never had to do that.  It is a click
through process.

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/

Rahul



From cra at WPI.EDU  Tue May  5 22:18:27 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:18:27 -0400
Subject: Where has soundcard control gone?
In-Reply-To: <4A00AEE6.2080205@tmr.com>
References: <4A00AEE6.2080205@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <20090505221827.GB15505@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:25:58PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> I have a machine which has been running FC4 then FC6. I finally decided  
> to go to FC11 with it, since it is an NFS and sound server for the  
> computer lab. And I found that all the exciting sound stuff doesn't seem  
> to have a control for sound card mode. Looking at my FC6 notes (yes,  
> old) I say "bring up the mode menu and select between the 2 channel,  
> four channel, and 4+center config. The 8 channel isn't better enough to  
> justify more speakers."
>
> Only I can't find anywhere to set the card mode, which under FC6 is  
> 4+center, and FC11 is "rear only."
>
> Where is it hidden? W isn't it obvious?

yum install gst-mixer



From kadon.h at gmail.com  Tue May  5 22:53:30 2009
From: kadon.h at gmail.com (Kadon)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:53:30 -0500
Subject: Firefox F11 GRE
Message-ID: <1241564010.3419.21.camel@h225.179.72.24.cable.angl.cmaaccess.com>

I just updated and this is what is happening.

[user at localhost ~]$ firefox

Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.1b4 and 1.9.1b4.

[user at localhost ~]$ rpm -qi firefox
Name        : firefox                      Relocations: (not
relocatable)
Version     : 3.5                               Vendor: Fedora Project
Release     : 0.20.beta4.fc11               Build Date: Mon 27 Apr 2009
04:43:47 PM CDT
Install Date: Tue 05 May 2009 02:23:14 AM CDT      Build Host:
x86-1.fedora.phx.redhat.com
Group       : Applications/Internet         Source RPM:
firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.src.rpm
Size        : 17103967                         License: MPLv1.1 or GPLv2
+ or LGPLv2+
Signature   : RSA/8, Thu 30 Apr 2009 04:27:46 PM CDT, Key ID
1dc5c758d22e77f2
Packager    : Fedora Project
URL         : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/






From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May  5 23:07:10 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:07:10 -0700
Subject: Where has soundcard control gone?
In-Reply-To: <20090505221827.GB15505@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <4A00AEE6.2080205@tmr.com>
	<20090505221827.GB15505@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <1241564830.2923.333.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 18:18 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:25:58PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > I have a machine which has been running FC4 then FC6. I finally decided  
> > to go to FC11 with it, since it is an NFS and sound server for the  
> > computer lab. And I found that all the exciting sound stuff doesn't seem  
> > to have a control for sound card mode. Looking at my FC6 notes (yes,  
> > old) I say "bring up the mode menu and select between the 2 channel,  
> > four channel, and 4+center config. The 8 channel isn't better enough to  
> > justify more speakers."
> >
> > Only I can't find anywhere to set the card mode, which under FC6 is  
> > 4+center, and FC11 is "rear only."
> >
> > Where is it hidden? W isn't it obvious?
> 
> yum install gst-mixer

You could also try the new-school way of doing it, to make sure it works
for you (testing is useful) and also because it's much less likely to
make you want to stab your eyes out with a rusty spork than alsamixer
and gst-mixer are...

yum install pavucontrol
pavucontrol

go to the 'Configuration' tab
set the profile for your device; some of the choices should involve
'Output Analog Surround', pick whichever seems appropriate.

(I think the fact that your card defaults to outputting only through the
rear speakers is likely a bug in ALSA; you could file it, on the package
alsa-lib, including the output of 'alsa-info.sh --no-upload', and the
output of 'amixer -c0' before and after you fix it).
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May  5 23:13:29 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:13:29 -0700
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <4A00BB3D.2090104@fedoraproject.org>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241556660.2791.32.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A00B5EA.2090604@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241561099.2791.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A00BB3D.2090104@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1241565209.2923.334.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 03:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/06/2009 03:34 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > PS I'd be happy to edit this kind of thing myself (I'm one of those
> > wierd people who quite enjoy copy-editing), but apparently getting a FAS
> > account involves sending a physical document to Fedora Orbiting HQ. It's
> > not practical for me to do that before F11 comes out (I live in South
> > America).
> 
> No, it doesn't. I can assure that I never had to do that.  It is a click
> through process.
> 
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/

Rahul - the problem is that the text instructions apparently haven't
been updated since it *wasn't* a click through process, so the patient
people who read the instructions (rather than the hot-heads like me who
just look for a "click here" button :>) all get caught out. I've seen
six or seven people raise this problem. I'm not sure how to get the
instructions updated, though.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May  5 23:22:33 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 04:52:33 +0530
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1241565209.2923.334.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>	<1241556660.2791.32.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<4A00B5EA.2090604@fedoraproject.org>	<1241561099.2791.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<4A00BB3D.2090104@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241565209.2923.334.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A00CA39.2050107@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/06/2009 04:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

> Rahul - the problem is that the text instructions apparently haven't
> been updated since it *wasn't* a click through process, so the patient
> people who read the instructions (rather than the hot-heads like me who
> just look for a "click here" button :>) all get caught out. I've seen
> six or seven people raise this problem. I'm not sure how to get the
> instructions updated, though.

Where are the instructions?  I signed a few months after the project was
formed and that like 5 years back. So I don't remember the specifics
anymore.

If is part of the introduction mail or a (non-wiki) webpage, then file
it against Fedora infrastructure at

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/

Rahul




From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May  5 23:24:17 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:24:17 -0700
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <4A00CA39.2050107@fedoraproject.org>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241556660.2791.32.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A00B5EA.2090604@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241561099.2791.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A00BB3D.2090104@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241565209.2923.334.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A00CA39.2050107@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1241565857.2923.337.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 04:52 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/06/2009 04:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > Rahul - the problem is that the text instructions apparently haven't
> > been updated since it *wasn't* a click through process, so the patient
> > people who read the instructions (rather than the hot-heads like me who
> > just look for a "click here" button :>) all get caught out. I've seen
> > six or seven people raise this problem. I'm not sure how to get the
> > instructions updated, though.
> 
> Where are the instructions?  I signed a few months after the project was
> formed and that like 5 years back. So I don't remember the specifics
> anymore.
> 
> If is part of the introduction mail or a (non-wiki) webpage, then file
> it against Fedora infrastructure at
> 
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/

It's one of the web pages you see as you go through the process, I
think, so that sounds like the right mechanism. I'll pretend to be a new
user and go through the process again to make sure I get it right.
Thanks.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May  5 23:42:03 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:42:03 -0700
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1241565857.2923.337.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241556660.2791.32.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A00B5EA.2090604@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241561099.2791.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A00BB3D.2090104@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241565209.2923.334.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A00CA39.2050107@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241565857.2923.337.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1241566923.2923.338.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 16:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> > Where are the instructions?  I signed a few months after the project was
> > formed and that like 5 years back. So I don't remember the specifics
> > anymore.
> > 
> > If is part of the introduction mail or a (non-wiki) webpage, then file
> > it against Fedora infrastructure at
> > 
> > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/
> 
> It's one of the web pages you see as you go through the process, I
> think, so that sounds like the right mechanism. I'll pretend to be a new
> user and go through the process again to make sure I get it right.
> Thanks.

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1371
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 00:30:58 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 17:30:58 -0700
Subject: yum question
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905051730r7a9ed16ay353fa1618ba713a4@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

The only reason for the timestamp would to see a reference point or ?
1) version number of old file
2) version number for new file

Sincerely Yours,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/eb69157f/attachment.htm>

From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Wed May  6 01:19:47 2009
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:19:47 -0400
Subject: Firefox F11 GRE
In-Reply-To: <1241564010.3419.21.camel@h225.179.72.24.cable.angl.cmaaccess.com>
References: <1241564010.3419.21.camel@h225.179.72.24.cable.angl.cmaaccess.com>
Message-ID: <1241572787.12122.167.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 17:53 -0500, Kadon wrote:
> I just updated and this is what is happening.
> 
> [user at localhost ~]$ firefox
> 
> Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.1b4 and 1.9.1b4.

This happens when firefox and xulrunner don't match just right.

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090505/24ba3ad8/attachment.sig>

From beland at alum.mit.edu  Wed May  6 02:08:23 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 22:08:23 -0400
Subject: Problems with Flash Plugin
In-Reply-To: <3d9482340905051249k2353488fja0afe48d9721f5be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3d9482340905051249k2353488fja0afe48d9721f5be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241575703.14410.48.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

Fabio,

If Firefox is working fine without the Flash plugin and not working with
it installed, then it is likely a bug in the plugin.  If this is the
proprietary Flash plugin from Adobe, the place to report it is:

https://bugs.adobe.com/flashplayer/

When you run Firefox below, is it only starting up a homepage tab, or is
it restoring a crashed session?  "acroread" is Adobe's PDF reader, and
I'm not sure why that is being looked for.  You may have other things
going on at the same time as the possible Flash issue, in which case
you'll need to experiment to tease the issues apart.

You may need a stack trace for the software vendor to diagnose a
segmentation fault caused by Flash; for instructions, see:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces#Obtaining_stack_traces_from_Firefox

You can run "firefox -safe-mode" to get the application started without
any extensions, if that helps you diagnose or recover.  Recording the
exact version numbers of Firefox and the plugin where you see this
problem would be helpful, and if downgrading to a lower version fixes
it, that would also be good to note.

Sorry I'm not familiar with Arora, but the same principles apply.

-B.

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 21:49 +0200, Fabio Locati wrote:
> After I have installed the Flash plugin, Arora and Firefox crush after
> ~10 seconds. These are the logs:
> 
> [fale at localhost ~]$ firefox
> sh: acroread: command not found
> /usr/lib/firefox-3.5b4/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  4018 Segmentation
> fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
> [fale at localhost ~]$ arora
> Oxygen style has been detected, loading Plastique style.
>  - KDE's 4.2's Oxygen style has too many issues with Qt 4.5 features
> that Arora uses and while many of the issues have been fixed for KDE
> 4.3, KDE 4.2 users get a really ugly Arora. Once KDE 4.3 is released
> this check will be removed. If you are still want to use Oxygen add
> the arguments -style oxygen on the command line.
> sh: acroread: command not found
> 
> (process:4124): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_clipboard_get_for_display:
> assertion `display != NULL' failed
> Adobe Flash Player: gtk_clipboard_get(GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY); failed.
> Trying to call gtk_init(0,0);
> 
> (<unknown>:4124): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_get_origin: assertion
> `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
> Segmentation fault
> [fale at localhost ~]$



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Wed May  6 02:56:42 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 22:56:42 -0400
Subject: Ext4 FAQ
In-Reply-To: <1241565857.2923.337.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <49F7272E.5010201@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241556660.2791.32.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A00B5EA.2090604@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241561099.2791.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A00BB3D.2090104@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241565209.2923.334.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A00CA39.2050107@fedoraproject.org>
	<1241565857.2923.337.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1241578602.2791.42.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 16:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 04:52 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > On 05/06/2009 04:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > 
> > > Rahul - the problem is that the text instructions apparently haven't
> > > been updated since it *wasn't* a click through process, so the patient
> > > people who read the instructions (rather than the hot-heads like me who
> > > just look for a "click here" button :>) all get caught out. I've seen
> > > six or seven people raise this problem. I'm not sure how to get the
> > > instructions updated, though.
> > 
> > Where are the instructions?  I signed a few months after the project was
> > formed and that like 5 years back. So I don't remember the specifics
> > anymore.
> > 
> > If is part of the introduction mail or a (non-wiki) webpage, then file
> > it against Fedora infrastructure at
> > 
> > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/
> 
> It's one of the web pages you see as you go through the process, I
> think, so that sounds like the right mechanism. I'll pretend to be a new
> user and go through the process again to make sure I get it right.

I just went through the process again, this time ignoring the (very
large and prominent) text box, and managed to register.

Then I went ahead and edited the FAQ myself :-)

poc



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Wed May  6 03:22:34 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 23:22:34 -0400
Subject: Soliciting Firefox bug-filing advice
Message-ID: <1241580154.14410.85.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

If you have any advice for someone reporting or triaging a Firefox bug
(especially if you have experience doing so yourself), your input would
be most welcome on the section I just created:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests#Firefox

We also have the existing:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces#Obtaining_stack_traces_from_Firefox

Feel free to edit the wiki pages directly.


I thought, hey, there must be more general-access Firefox debugging
advice.  I did find the below pages, but they can be confusing if you
use Fedora's package install method and not Firefox's own installer.  I
suppose they are also editable, so Fedora-specific content could be
added to the Linux versions of appropriate pages.

http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Basic+Troubleshooting
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+hangs
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+crashes

-B.



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Wed May  6 03:27:57 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 05:27:57 +0200
Subject: Revised draft of priority / severity mail to -devel list
References: <1241200827.2811.25.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1241542141.6026.41.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1241547030.2923.318.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <gtr03t$a4m$12@ger.gmane.org>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> Fortunately, being nice to reporters is not often a major consideration
> on -devel-list =)

Most likely there are more reporters here than on -devel. :-)

        Kevin Kofler



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Wed May  6 03:38:34 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 05:38:34 +0200
Subject: Jigdo and the release day
References: <4A00A78B.7090802@tmr.com>
	<1241557392.12887.17.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
Message-ID: <gtr0nq$a4m$13@ger.gmane.org>

Bob Gustafson wrote:
> I think it is possible to use an old DVD (such as a test preview disk)
> as one of the repositories for jigdo. Then you only need to download
> component rpms that are newer than what is on the DVD.
> 
> In theory, you could use this process to get increasingly more recent
> test DVDs, using the last test DVD as a repository. You only need to
> download the changes. Would speed up the Test-Change-Test cycle too.

RPM signatures may cause trouble with that idea though.

        Kevin Kofler



From maximilianbianco at gmail.com  Wed May  6 03:48:13 2009
From: maximilianbianco at gmail.com (max)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 23:48:13 -0400
Subject: Problems with Flash Plugin
In-Reply-To: <3d9482340905051249k2353488fja0afe48d9721f5be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3d9482340905051249k2353488fja0afe48d9721f5be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090506034813.GA9504@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>

On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 09:49:05PM +0200, Fabio Locati wrote:
> After I have installed the Flash plugin, Arora and Firefox crush after
> ~10 seconds. These are the logs:
> 
> [fale at localhost ~]$ firefox
> sh: acroread: command not found
> /usr/lib/firefox-3.5b4/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  4018 Segmentation
> fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}

Aside from the acroread error(which seems unusual in itself) this looks very familiar, could be unrelated but is selinux on? If so check a couple of booleans as follows but first the user context you run under.
 
[maximus at armadillo ~]$ id -Z    
staff_u:staff_r:staff_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023

I am not using a default selinux setup BTW. If you have a default install with selinux you will be running as an unconfined_u . so it would look like this :

unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0

If you have modified your selinux setup please say how.

You don't have to be root to use getsebool but you do to change(setsebool) the boolean value

getsebool -a | grep allow_execmem    #we really don't want this on if we can avoid it, I mean you really do not want this on!!!

allow_execmem --> off        #off is good here, avoid changing it , if you have to turn it on then please say so since this should not be required, at least not for firefox. I have had to turn this on here but this should be avoided at all costs. My setup is not default either and I am still trying to work out why I need this on. Some programs will need this however and I don't know about Arora.

Personally I do not use adobe flash, so these are off here.

 getsebool -a | nsplugin 
 
allow_nsplugin_execmem --> off
allow_unconfined_nsplugin_transition --> off
nsplugin_can_network --> off

setsebool allow_nsplugin_execmem on 

setsebool allow_unconfined_nsplugin_transition on

I usually like to change one thing at a time but I think you need both for it to work. If you add a -P to the command it will make it persistent across reboots.

 Try without the -P first to see if it works,this way if it doesn't and you forget to change it back then a reboot will set things back to the way they were. Changing the final nsplugin boolean should not be necessary.The SELinux Management GUI under Admin tools will do all of this and make it persistent(without additional voodoo) as well but you will have to change it back if it doesn't work. Post back if this works and if it doesn't make sure you change any booleans back to what they were, especially in the case of allow_execmem bools, off is better than on. Hope this helps. 
-- 
"Any fool can know. The point is to understand" --Albert Einstein

Bored??
http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0

http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball



From maximilianbianco at gmail.com  Wed May  6 04:12:52 2009
From: maximilianbianco at gmail.com (max)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 00:12:52 -0400
Subject: Can't stop log
In-Reply-To: <4A00A58C.5060402@tmr.com>
References: <20090430205223.GA13002@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>
	<52199.4307.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<20090501165956.GC4634@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>
	<4A00A58C.5060402@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <20090506041252.GA15128@vertex.ga.at.cox.net>

On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 04:46:04PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:

> No, I see it on one laptop, one server, one little Shuttle firewall box, 
> and KVM virtual machines. I see it in both 32 and 64 bit versions. What 
> mine  have in common is that they are running GNOME, nothing more.
>
> THIS JUST IN: I installed the new stuff which came in overnight, kernel,  
> initscripts, selinux policy, plymouth, lots of possibly related stuff. 
> Since the upgrade shutdown and reboot have worked flawlessly. tested in 
> the VM (never rebooted before), the laptop (64 bit) and the firewall (32 
> bit).
>
> Smells pretty good to me. Confirmation please? Or am I just lucky?
>
Looking good here too...
-- 
"Any fool can know. The point is to understand" --Albert Einstein

Bored??
http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0

http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Wed May  6 04:40:30 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:40:30 -0400
Subject: Can't stop log
In-Reply-To: <49F88805.2090202@tmr.com>
References: <49F88805.2090202@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <1241584830.14410.108.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 13:01 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> After I booted my FC11 test system and did an update, I tried to
> shutdown and got this failure.
> I clicked system->shutdown->shutdown_button and the system hung. An
> investigation of the log shows that attached behavior.
> 
> If I log out and click the shutdown button it works, so it seems to only
> happen when using the button while logged in.
> 
> Running 'shutdown -h' as root also works.
> 
> I assume that this is an SElinux behavior, before I BZ it, is it intentional?

If the system *is* intentionally configured (whether by default or by
customization) to disallow mortal users to shutdown or reboot the
system, it should not "hang", but produce a friendly error message
informing the user they are not allowed to do that.  If it does not do
that, it seems like a usability bug which should be reported.

I see that Bug 495326 was closed; after updating and relabeling, are you
still experiencing this problem and getting AVC denials?  If so, I would
open a new bug if there isn't another one already.

It does not sound like a rational default configuration if you are not
allowed to reboot the system as a normal user, but to get around that
restriction, you simply need to log out.  IMO, that would be a separate
problem which should also be reported if that's the behavior you are
seeing with the default configuration.

-B.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed May  6 11:18:00 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:18:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: does a fully updated beta correspond to an updated preview?
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060716110.14178@localhost.localdomain>


  i'm still running on a fully-updated f86_64 beta.  does this roughly
correspond to a fully-updated preview in terms of testing?  i just
don't have time to install the preview but i'd like to continue some
debugging so, if i stay on top of the updates, am i still mostly in
sync with preview testing?  thanks.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed May  6 11:30:26 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:30:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: how to get information out of koji with less pain?
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060725470.17766@localhost.localdomain>


  i'm currently trying to upgrade my kernel to the koji version to
test the new video drivers, but after i've downloaded the koji kernel
packages and try "yum localinstall", i'm told i'm missing the
corresponding "kernel-firmware" package.

  so all i want to do is find the koji kernel-firmware package but
the obvious tricks don't work.  i would have thought that going to
koji.fedoraproject.org and searching on "kernel-firmware" would do the
trick but i get no hits.  what's the proper way to just *find* a koji
package given its name?  thanks.

rday

p.s.  what's the point of that search box anyway?  if i type in
"kernel", i get no hits.  what's up with *that*?
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From markmc at redhat.com  Wed May  6 11:37:57 2009
From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:37:57 +0100
Subject: does a fully updated beta correspond to an updated preview?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060716110.14178@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060716110.14178@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241609877.12673.19.camel@blaa>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:18 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> i'm still running on a fully-updated f86_64 beta.  does this roughly
> correspond to a fully-updated preview in terms of testing?

Yes. :-)

Cheers,
Mark.



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May  6 11:43:50 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 07:43:50 -0400
Subject: how to get information out of koji with less pain?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060725470.17766@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060725470.17766@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241610230.2370.19.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:30 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> i'm currently trying to upgrade my kernel to the koji version to
> test the new video drivers, but after i've downloaded the koji kernel
> packages and try "yum localinstall", i'm told i'm missing the
> corresponding "kernel-firmware" package.
> 
>   so all i want to do is find the koji kernel-firmware package but
> the obvious tricks don't work.  i would have thought that going to
> koji.fedoraproject.org and searching on "kernel-firmware" would do the
> trick but i get no hits.  what's the proper way to just *find* a koji
> package given its name?  thanks.

What I do to download the latest package from a specific tag (e.g.
dist-f11-updates-candidate) is:

 # koji download-build --latestfrom dist-f11-updates-candidate --arch
i386 --arch i586 --arch x86_64 kernel

If you know a specific build id you want to download:

 # koji download-build --arch i386 --arch i586 --arch x86_64 <build#>

You will need to adjust --arch accordingly I believe.

> p.s.  what's the point of that search box anyway?  if i type in
> "kernel", i get no hits.  what's up with *that*?

It depends on what's selected in the drop down list (Packages, Builds,
Users, Tags etc...).  If I search for "kernel" with Packages selected,
it takes me to
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8.

When in doubt, add glob patterns.  To search for anything gnome...
search for
"gnome*" (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/search?terms=gnome*&type=package&match=glob).

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/f4b230dc/attachment.sig>

From schaiba at gmail.com  Wed May  6 11:47:19 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:47:19 +0300
Subject: does a fully updated beta correspond to an updated preview?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060716110.14178@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060716110.14178@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A0178C7.4060201@gmail.com>

Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   i'm still running on a fully-updated f86_64 beta.  does this roughly
> correspond to a fully-updated preview in terms of testing?  i just
> don't have time to install the preview but i'd like to continue some
> debugging so, if i stay on top of the updates, am i still mostly in
> sync with preview testing?  thanks.
>
> rday
> --
>
> ========================================================================
> Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
>
>         Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.
>
> Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
> Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
> Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
> ========================================================================
>
>   
Yes, rawhide is rawhide.



From xiashing at gmail.com  Wed May  6 11:50:08 2009
From: xiashing at gmail.com (Xia Shing Zee)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:50:08 +1000
Subject: does a fully updated beta correspond to an updated preview?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060716110.14178@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060716110.14178@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <954b158e0905060450r522115bchf1ff7ea9736ca592@mail.gmail.com>

It only takes 10 minutes to install preview. At least on an Intel T8300
2.8GHz CPU with 3gb of ram. 5400rpm harddrive I think.

-Xia Shing Zee

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday at crashcourse.ca>wrote:

>
>  i'm still running on a fully-updated f86_64 beta.  does this roughly
> correspond to a fully-updated preview in terms of testing?  i just
> don't have time to install the preview but i'd like to continue some
> debugging so, if i stay on top of the updates, am i still mostly in
> sync with preview testing?  thanks.
>
> rday
> --
>
> ========================================================================
> Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
>
>        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.
>
> Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
> Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
> Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
> ========================================================================
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/a70192f5/attachment.htm>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed May  6 11:52:00 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:52:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: how to get information out of koji with less pain?
In-Reply-To: <1241610230.2370.19.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060725470.17766@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241610230.2370.19.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060749380.18113@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 6 May 2009, James Laska wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:30 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

> > p.s.  what's the point of that search box anyway?  if i type in
> > "kernel", i get no hits.  what's up with *that*?
>
> It depends on what's selected in the drop down list (Packages, Builds,
> Users, Tags etc...).  If I search for "kernel" with Packages selected,
> it takes me to
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8.

  ok, that works but there's still some weirdness happening.  if i try
the same thing with "kernel-devel", i get no hits, even though i
*just* downloaded that from koji minutes ago.  why wouldn't the
"kernel-devel" package be found?

  and the package i'm really looking for is "kernel-firmware", which
is a listed dependency of the koji kernel package.  if i can't find
the kernel-firmware package, i'm kind of stuck trying to install the
kernel package.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May  6 11:55:29 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 07:55:29 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-07 - Fedora Test Day - Virtualization
In-Reply-To: <4A008EBE.4080007@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1241453678.2726.76.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<20090504125444.25cf54b8@tomh>  <4A008EBE.4080007@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1241610929.2370.25.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 00:38 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/04/2009 10:24 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Mon, 04 May 2009 12:14:38 -0400
> > James Laska wrote:
> > 
> >> Fedora 11 hosts a number of virtualization improvements
> > 
> > Just out of curiosity, is "documentation" ever likely to
> > show up as an improvement? :-). It took months for me
> > to get to where I had a vague idea what was going on with
> > Xen and how to fiddle things that weren't available directly
> > in virt-manager. KVM seems to be even more undocumented
> > than Xen.
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_virtualization
> 
> If you have anything you find specifically missing, ask in fedora-virt
> list and help improve the documentation.

Thanks Rahul, I've added this link to the test day "Documentation"
section.

-James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/4ec87928/attachment.sig>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed May  6 11:57:25 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:57:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: does a fully updated beta correspond to an updated preview?
In-Reply-To: <954b158e0905060450r522115bchf1ff7ea9736ca592@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060716110.14178@localhost.localdomain>
	<954b158e0905060450r522115bchf1ff7ea9736ca592@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060754110.18173@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 6 May 2009, Xia Shing Zee wrote:

> It only takes 10 minutes to install preview. At least on an Intel
> T8300 2.8GHz CPU with 3gb of ram. 5400rpm harddrive I think.

  that would be true if we were talking about a redundant, throw-away
system.  i'm actually running the f11 beta on my main laptop which, if
things break, i'm under some pressure to get them fixed again or i
don't get any work done.  so it's a bit more of an issue for me to
re-install everything.

  hence my recent carping and whining about radeon drivers not working
and alpine being screwed up.  cuz when those things don't work, it
really affects me.  and gives me serious incentive to try to debug
them.

  just living life dangerously.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From dennisml at conversis.de  Wed May  6 12:02:59 2009
From: dennisml at conversis.de (Dennis J.)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:02:59 +0200
Subject: how to get information out of koji with less pain?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060725470.17766@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060725470.17766@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A017C73.4030605@conversis.de>

On 05/06/2009 01:30 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
>    i'm currently trying to upgrade my kernel to the koji version to
> test the new video drivers, but after i've downloaded the koji kernel
> packages and try "yum localinstall", i'm told i'm missing the
> corresponding "kernel-firmware" package.
>
>    so all i want to do is find the koji kernel-firmware package but
> the obvious tricks don't work.  i would have thought that going to
> koji.fedoraproject.org and searching on "kernel-firmware" would do the
> trick but i get no hits.  what's the proper way to just *find* a koji
> package given its name?  thanks.

I think either the combo-box entry for the search box should be renamed 
from "packages" to "source packages" to more properly reflect that koji 
indeed does *not* search the list of packages or preferably koji should be 
changed to actually search the list of packages proper (as it pretends it 
does right now).

Having to deduce the package origin is easy enough in this case but take a 
look for example at "bochs-bios" and "bochs". "bochs-bios" exists as a 
source package but it actually generates a package "bochs-bios-data" while 
the source package "bochs" creates the package "bochs-bios" that you would 
expect the source package "bochs-bios" to generate. Add the possibility of 
virtual provides into the mix and things become unneccessarily convoluted.

I think a search for a package should use the list of final user 
installable packages rather than source packages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment

Regards,
   Dennis



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May  6 12:35:53 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 08:35:53 -0400
Subject: how to get information out of koji with less pain?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060749380.18113@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060725470.17766@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241610230.2370.19.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060749380.18113@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241613353.2370.67.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:52 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Wed, 6 May 2009, James Laska wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:30 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> 
> > > p.s.  what's the point of that search box anyway?  if i type in
> > > "kernel", i get no hits.  what's up with *that*?
> >
> > It depends on what's selected in the drop down list (Packages, Builds,
> > Users, Tags etc...).  If I search for "kernel" with Packages selected,
> > it takes me to
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8.
> 
>   ok, that works but there's still some weirdness happening.  if i try
> the same thing with "kernel-devel", i get no hits, even though i
> *just* downloaded that from koji minutes ago.  why wouldn't the
> "kernel-devel" package be found?

When searching by Package, I believe that means searching by src.rpm
name.  If you want to search for binary packages (like the packages
build from a src.rpm), try changing the search target from "Packages" to
"RPMs".

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/search?match=glob&type=rpm&terms=kernel-devel*

>   and the package i'm really looking for is "kernel-firmware", which
> is a listed dependency of the koji kernel package.  if i can't find
> the kernel-firmware package, i'm kind of stuck trying to install the
> kernel package.

I *think* kernel-firmware is a noarch package, you might try adding
"--arch noarch" to the koji command.

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/d2ed606e/attachment.sig>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed May  6 12:43:37 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:43:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: how to get information out of koji with less pain?
In-Reply-To: <1241613353.2370.67.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060725470.17766@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241610230.2370.19.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060749380.18113@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241613353.2370.67.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060839240.20163@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 6 May 2009, James Laska wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:52 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 May 2009, James Laska wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:30 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >
> > > > p.s.  what's the point of that search box anyway?  if i type in
> > > > "kernel", i get no hits.  what's up with *that*?
> > >
> > > It depends on what's selected in the drop down list (Packages, Builds,
> > > Users, Tags etc...).  If I search for "kernel" with Packages selected,
> > > it takes me to
> > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8.
> >
> >   ok, that works but there's still some weirdness happening.  if i
> > try the same thing with "kernel-devel", i get no hits, even though
> > i *just* downloaded that from koji minutes ago.  why wouldn't the
> > "kernel-devel" package be found?
>
> When searching by Package, I believe that means searching by src.rpm
> name.  If you want to search for binary packages (like the packages
> build from a src.rpm), try changing the search target from
> "Packages" to "RPMs".
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/search?match=glob&type=rpm&terms=kernel-devel*
>
> >   and the package i'm really looking for is "kernel-firmware",
> > which is a listed dependency of the koji kernel package.  if i
> > can't find the kernel-firmware package, i'm kind of stuck trying
> > to install the kernel package.
>
> I *think* kernel-firmware is a noarch package, you might try adding
> "--arch noarch" to the koji command.

  adding options to the koji command doesn't make much sense in the
context of a search using the text box.  but here's where it gets
*really* weird.

  if i search (graphically) for "kernel-firmware" as an RPM, i get no
hits.  if, on the other hand, i search for the RE "kernel-f*", it
shows up.  the obvious test is then to search for "kernel-firmware*"
as an RPM, which finds it.  that's just weird.  and totally
non-intuitive.

  is it possible that that just happens to me?  can anyone else
reproduce that?

rday
--


========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From bobgus at rcn.com  Wed May  6 12:50:37 2009
From: bobgus at rcn.com (Bob Gustafson)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 07:50:37 -0500
Subject: Jigdo and the release day
In-Reply-To: <gtr0nq$a4m$13@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4A00A78B.7090802@tmr.com>
	<1241557392.12887.17.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<gtr0nq$a4m$13@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1241614237.26391.4.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 05:38 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Bob Gustafson wrote:
> > I think it is possible to use an old DVD (such as a test preview disk)
> > as one of the repositories for jigdo. Then you only need to download
> > component rpms that are newer than what is on the DVD.
> > 
> > In theory, you could use this process to get increasingly more recent
> > test DVDs, using the last test DVD as a repository. You only need to
> > download the changes. Would speed up the Test-Change-Test cycle too.
> 
> RPM signatures may cause trouble with that idea though.
> 
>         Kevin Kofler

jidgo gives you:

1) drastically reduced network bandwidth requirements

2) drastically reduced time to create a new test disk for lots of
testers so they can easily and quickly try the latest changes.

If these are 'good things', then figure out a way around the RPM
signature problem.



From mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de  Wed May  6 13:15:12 2009
From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:15:12 +0200
Subject: how to get information out of koji with less pain?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060839240.20163@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060725470.17766@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241610230.2370.19.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060749380.18113@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241613353.2370.67.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060839240.20163@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090506151512.3740ef87@faldor.intranet>

On Wed, 6 May 2009 08:43:37 -0400 (EDT), Robert wrote:

>   adding options to the koji command doesn't make much sense in the
> context of a search using the text box.  but here's where it gets
> *really* weird.
> 
>   if i search (graphically) for "kernel-firmware" as an RPM, i get no
> hits.  if, on the other hand, i search for the RE "kernel-f*", it
> shows up.  the obvious test is then to search for "kernel-firmware*"
> as an RPM, which finds it.  that's just weird.  and totally
> non-intuitive.
> 
>   is it possible that that just happens to me?  can anyone else
> reproduce that?

Searching "RPMs" searches the actual file names. No RPM file is called
"kernel-firmware". They have names like
kernel-firmware-2.6.27-0.144.rc0.git2.fc10.noarch.rpm
so you can search for a specific version/release/arch, too.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed May  6 13:19:32 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 09:19:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: koji kernel:  "barrier-based sync failed"
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060916070.23479@localhost.lan>


  after installing the current koji kernel for my x86_64 system (for
the purpose of testing video), very early in the boot process, i got
the following diagnostic flashing on the screen, followed by a total
system hang:

  JBD: barrier-based sync failed on dm-0:8 - disabling barriers

i powered down, powered back up, and got further into the boot process
up to the network initialization, then rapid flashing of ADDRCONF
messages on the screen, then another hang.

  thoughts?

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed May  6 13:26:54 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:26:54 -0500
Subject: how to get information out of koji with less pain?
In-Reply-To: <1241610230.2370.19.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060725470.17766@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241610230.2370.19.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090506132654.GA9369@wolff.to>

On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 07:43:50 -0400,
  James Laska <jlaska at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> What I do to download the latest package from a specific tag (e.g.
> dist-f11-updates-candidate) is:
> 
>  # koji download-build --latestfrom dist-f11-updates-candidate --arch
> i386 --arch i586 --arch x86_64 kernel

kernel-firmware (and kernel-headers) are noarch.
And if you are using an i686 kernel, you still use i586 for kernel-headers.

I usually grab one offs from the koji web page. For the kernel, especially,
you can skip a lot of stuff you aren't going to use.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed May  6 13:26:17 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 09:26:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: koji kernel:  "barrier-based sync failed"
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060916070.23479@localhost.lan>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060916070.23479@localhost.lan>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060924170.23653@localhost.lan>

On Wed, 6 May 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>   after installing the current koji kernel for my x86_64 system (for
> the purpose of testing video), very early in the boot process, i got
> the following diagnostic flashing on the screen, followed by a total
> system hang:
>
>   JBD: barrier-based sync failed on dm-0:8 - disabling barriers
>
> i powered down, powered back up, and got further into the boot
> process up to the network initialization, then rapid flashing of
> ADDRCONF messages on the screen, then another hang.

  hang on, a quick followup.  the system wasn't hung, video was just
trashed but i could still get to the virtual consoles.  so i'm
guessing it's a video thing.  argh.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Wed May  6 13:28:03 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 09:28:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: yum question
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10905051730r7a9ed16ay353fa1618ba713a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905051730r7a9ed16ay353fa1618ba713a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060927350.16363@localhost.localdomain>



On Tue, 5 May 2009, Rob Healey wrote:

> Greetings:
> 
> The only reason for the timestamp would to see a reference point or ?
> 1) version number of old file
> 2) version number for new file
>

I think you should look at the yum-changelog plugin and what it can do for 
you.

-sv



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Wed May  6 14:03:12 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Wed,  6 May 2009 14:03:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090506 changes
Message-ID: <20090506140312.1A6221F820C@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Wed May  6 06:15:03 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

audio-entropyd-2.0.1-1.fc11
---------------------------
* Tue May 05 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2.0.1-1
- upstream took my alsa patch (improved on it too)


control-center-2.26.0-6.fc11
----------------------------
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.26.0-6
- Don't rely on _BACKUP property for xkb initialization


fcoe-utils-1.0.7-4.fc11
-----------------------
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Jan Zeleny <jzeleny at redhat.com> - 1.0.7-4
- added libhbalinux to Requires (#497605)


gdm-2.26.1-7.fc11
-----------------
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.26.1-7
- Don't rely on _BACKUP property for xkb initialization

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 1:2.26.1-5
- fix crash at shutdown

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.26.1-6
- fix a use-after-free in XDMCP code paths (#496882)


gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-4.fc11
-----------------------------------

kde-settings-4.2-10.20090430svn.fc11
------------------------------------
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2-10.20090430svn
- nepomukserverrc: disable nepomuk


libvirt-0.6.2-4.fc11
--------------------
* Tue May 05 2009 Daniel P. Berrange <berrange at redhat.com> - 0.6.2-4.fc11
- Fix labelling of shared/readonly disks (rhbz #493692)


nautilus-sendto-1.1.5-1.fc11
----------------------------
* Tue May 05 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 1.1.5-1
- Update to 1.1.5

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 1.1.4.1-2
- Build with gajim support (#497975)


totem-2.26.2-1.fc11
-------------------
* Sun May 03 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 2.26.2-1
- Update to 2.26.2

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 2.26.1-4
- Add missing pyxdg requires for the OpenSubtitles plugin (#497787)

* Thu Apr 23 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 2.26.1-3
- Add missing gnome-python2-gconf req (#483265)


totem-pl-parser-2.26.2-1.fc11
-----------------------------
* Sun May 03 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 2.26.2-1
- Update to 2.26.2


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.12.2-11.fc11
-------------------------------
* Tue May 05 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.12.2-10
- radeon-modeset-fixes.patch: backport fixes from upstream for rs480 firefox gpu crash

* Tue May 05 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.12.2-11
- make src/mask prepare access force to GTT.

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.12.2-8
- restrict texture coords to 0.0->1.0 explicitly.
- enable gamma now kernel is tagged

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.12.2-9
- fix gamma code to work properly
- bump kernel requires for gamma interface not oopsing


xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.1.0-5.fc11
-----------------------------------
* Tue May 05 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.1.0-4
- synaptics-1.1.0-edges.patch: Set default edge sizes depending on model
  (#494766).

* Tue May 05 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com>  1.1.0-5
- synaptics-1.1.0-nograb-fail.patch: fail if the device cannot be grabbed
  (#499058)


xorg-x11-server-1.6.1-11.fc11
-----------------------------
* Mon May 04 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.6.1-10
- xserver-1.6.1-nouveau.patch: Update the autoconfig logic for nv3 and other
  historical oddities.

* Mon May 04 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.6.1-11
- xserver-1.6.1-document-fontpath-correctly.patch: Typo fixes.

* Thu Apr 23 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 1.6.1-8
- xserver-1.6.1-exa-create-pixmap2.patch - add support for tiling create
  pixmap hook - need to fix firefox on ati rs690 crashes

* Thu Apr 23 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.6.1-9
- xserver-1.6.1-avoid-malloc-for-logging.patch: Don't malloc when logging,
  since that makes it unsafe to do from a signal handler.

* Wed Apr 22 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.6.1-7
- Conflict with too-old versions of xorg-x11-drivers. (#497144)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 13









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May  6 14:05:19 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:05:19 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-06 - Fedora QA Meeting Agenda - need a volunteer
Message-ID: <1241618719.2370.163.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

Fedora QA Meeting
Date: 2009-05-06
Time: 16:00 UTC (12 EDT)
Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 

I unfortunately have a conflict appointment @ 15:30 UTC today, but may
return mid-meeting.  Would someone be so kind to host and keep notes
today?  The planned agenda is as follows.

From https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090506 ...

        1. Previous meeting follow-up -
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090429
        
        2. Autoqa update - http://autoqa.fedorahosted.org
        
        3. F-11 Volume control update
        
        4. F-11-GA preparation
           * Blocker bug -
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1       
           * Schedule -
        http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule
           * First RC?  Somewhere between 2009-05-12 and 2009-05-21
           * I'd like ideas/input on Fedora QA producing a more formal
        RC test summary report to aid release notes and release
        decision.
        
        5. Open discussion
 
Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/415adc92/attachment.sig>

From davidsen at tmr.com  Wed May  6 14:31:38 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:31:38 -0400
Subject: Jigdo and the release day
In-Reply-To: <1241557392.12887.17.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
References: <4A00A78B.7090802@tmr.com>
	<1241557392.12887.17.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
Message-ID: <4A019F4A.1000605@tmr.com>

Bob Gustafson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 16:54 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> I have here the beta ISO, the snapshot ISO, and the contents of /var/cache/yum 
>> which I run with cleanup off. When the final release day comes, is there a way I 
>> can tell jigdo to use that combination to reduce the network traffic and server 
>> load?
>>
>> RELATED: can I do some magic on /var/cache/yum to get the old install DVD to use 
>> the new stuff? My test with createrepo seemed to generate a local repo which 
>> worked for after the fact install and update, I'm just trying to avoid 
>> installing obsolete packages and blowing them away again, on a slow machine that 
>> really rots.
>>
>> -- 
>> Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
>>    "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
>> the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
>>
> 
> I think it is possible to use an old DVD (such as a test preview disk)
> as one of the repositories for jigdo. Then you only need to download
> component rpms that are newer than what is on the DVD.
> 
That's what I'm trying to avoid! I *have* all of the RPMs, or at least many of 
them, in /var/cache/yum, because I have "keepcache=1" in /etc/yum.conf. That's 
how I speed updating multiple machines, they all share (at least at update time) 
an NFS mounted /var/cache/yum.

But when I 'createrepo' on the cached RPMs I get a repo I can use for update 
*after* the install, while providing other repos at the time of the install so I 
don't install the old package and then update it, but install the latest the 
first time. So I want to build a new install DVD, but make use of all the stuff 
I have already downloaded.

> In theory, you could use this process to get increasingly more recent
> test DVDs, using the last test DVD as a repository. You only need to
> download the changes. Would speed up the Test-Change-Test cycle too.
> 


-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed May  6 14:57:47 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 09:57:47 -0500
Subject: koji kernel:  "barrier-based sync failed"
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060916070.23479@localhost.lan>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060916070.23479@localhost.lan>
Message-ID: <20090506145747.GA15301@wolff.to>

On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 09:19:32 -0400,
  "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday at crashcourse.ca> wrote:
> 
>   JBD: barrier-based sync failed on dm-0:8 - disabling barriers
> 
> i powered down, powered back up, and got further into the boot process
> up to the network initialization, then rapid flashing of ADDRCONF
> messages on the screen, then another hang.
> 
>   thoughts?

Barriers are not supported by some block devices. This includes at least
most software raid and most dm devices. Though I have seen suggestions
that dm devices with one underlying device (in particular dmcrypt)
are getting support for that. I don't know what the current status of
that is.

When you try to use barriers when you can't they just get disabled and
things should still work. The only difference will be if there is a
crash of some kind, in which case some stuff may be written out of
order which might be problematic. This is unlikely to be the cause
of your boot problems.



From davidsen at tmr.com  Wed May  6 15:02:21 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:02:21 -0400
Subject: F11 Preview : everything OK but Virtualbox
In-Reply-To: <20090502171640.GA1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <a1d3651e0905020913h450175dbi3416378a56389927@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502171640.GA1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <4A01A67D.7000706@tmr.com>

Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:13:37AM -0500, E.B. A. wrote:
>> My only problem is VirtualBox. Whenever I try to run a new virtual session,
>> somehow, it just stop working. I installed the dkms but somehow it doesn't
>> work. Still, I think it's because of something I do, I haven't really done
>> any troubleshoot.
> 
> I'm curious why you use VirtualBox instead of the built-in 
> virtualization solution in Fedora, yum groupinstall Virtualization
> 
AFAIK the Fedora virt package is only for recent systems with the virt in 
hardware. VirtualBox is the solution now that xen has been removed from Fedora 
and is only available in other distributions.

I've read that xen would be in FC12, but I read that about 10 and 11, too :-(
Until it is in a shipping and supported release VBox is a viable solution.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From davidsen at tmr.com  Wed May  6 15:20:42 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:20:42 -0400
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <4A01AACA.6060208@tmr.com>

Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 03:23:55PM -0300, iarly selbir | ski0s wrote:
>> Hi, I installed F11 preview using DVD iso in my new laptop and I got two
>> problems:
>>
>> 1 - I get move the mouse pointer using touch area, but I the click function
>> isn't working, I already tested it on default OS previously installed (
>> Mandriva variation ), it was working fine.
> 
> System->Preferences->Mouse->Touchpad->Enable mouse clicks with 
> touchpad
> 
Is this something that just became available this morning? I see there's a new 
xorg-synaptics driver, new gdm stuff, and new control-center stuff, but my old 
(12 hours ago) system stops at "Mouse" and brings up a box with no reference to 
"Touchpad" nor is there a menu at the "Mouse" level as you seem to imply.

Clarification?

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From bobgus at rcn.com  Wed May  6 15:22:06 2009
From: bobgus at rcn.com (Bob Gustafson)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:22:06 -0500
Subject: Jigdo and the release day
In-Reply-To: <4A019F4A.1000605@tmr.com>
References: <4A00A78B.7090802@tmr.com>
	<1241557392.12887.17.camel@hoho4.chidig.com> <4A019F4A.1000605@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <1241623326.26391.26.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:31 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Bob Gustafson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 16:54 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> >> I have here the beta ISO, the snapshot ISO, and the contents of /var/cache/yum 
> >> which I run with cleanup off. When the final release day comes, is there a way I 
> >> can tell jigdo to use that combination to reduce the network traffic and server 
> >> load?
> >>
> >> RELATED: can I do some magic on /var/cache/yum to get the old install DVD to use 
> >> the new stuff? My test with createrepo seemed to generate a local repo which 
> >> worked for after the fact install and update, I'm just trying to avoid 
> >> installing obsolete packages and blowing them away again, on a slow machine that 
> >> really rots.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
> >>    "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
> >> the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
> >>
> > 
> > I think it is possible to use an old DVD (such as a test preview disk)
> > as one of the repositories for jigdo. Then you only need to download
> > component rpms that are newer than what is on the DVD.
> > 
> That's what I'm trying to avoid! I *have* all of the RPMs, or at least many of 
> them, in /var/cache/yum, because I have "keepcache=1" in /etc/yum.conf. That's 
> how I speed updating multiple machines, they all share (at least at update time) 
> an NFS mounted /var/cache/yum.

Updating an existing F11 is different than F11 (virgin Install|Upgrade
on top of an F10 system).

I'm trying to speed up the Test-Change-Test cycle for the F11 Install
DVD so that Anaconda gets more testing of many different systems (raid
is my need).

A LAN connected repo sounds like a good idea for folks with an extra
system and an Anaconda smart enough to use it. A slim DVD with only
Anaconda and necessary boot time utilities - then reach out to LAN repo
for the rest.

However, for those testers in the F11 DVD test-change-test loop with
one system, jidgo DVD image creation with a recent DVD in the drive is
a quick way to create a new install DVD image. And it is possible now.

> 
> But when I 'createrepo' on the cached RPMs I get a repo I can use for update 
> *after* the install, while providing other repos at the time of the install so I 
> don't install the old package and then update it, but install the latest the 
> first time. So I want to build a new install DVD, but make use of all the stuff 
> I have already downloaded.
> 
> > In theory, you could use this process to get increasingly more recent
> > test DVDs, using the last test DVD as a repository. You only need to
> > download the changes. Would speed up the Test-Change-Test cycle too.
> > 




From mclasen at redhat.com  Wed May  6 15:48:01 2009
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:48:01 -0400
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <4A01AACA.6060208@tmr.com>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>  <4A01AACA.6060208@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <1241624881.2773.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 11:20 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:

> > 
> > System->Preferences->Mouse->Touchpad->Enable mouse clicks with 
> > touchpad
> > 
> Is this something that just became available this morning? I see there's a new 
> xorg-synaptics driver, new gdm stuff, and new control-center stuff, but my old 
> (12 hours ago) system stops at "Mouse" and brings up a box with no reference to 
> "Touchpad" nor is there a menu at the "Mouse" level as you seem to imply.
> 
> Clarification?

The tab only shows up if there is an X input device that looks like a
touchpad. So your X maybe doesn't see the touchpad ?

 





From davidsen at tmr.com  Wed May  6 15:53:25 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:53:25 -0400
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <1241624881.2773.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>	<20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<4A01AACA.6060208@tmr.com>
	<1241624881.2773.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A01B275.5060902@tmr.com>

Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 11:20 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> 
>>> System->Preferences->Mouse->Touchpad->Enable mouse clicks with 
>>> touchpad
>>>
>> Is this something that just became available this morning? I see there's a new 
>> xorg-synaptics driver, new gdm stuff, and new control-center stuff, but my old 
>> (12 hours ago) system stops at "Mouse" and brings up a box with no reference to 
>> "Touchpad" nor is there a menu at the "Mouse" level as you seem to imply.
>>
>> Clarification?
> 
> The tab only shows up if there is an X input device that looks like a
> touchpad. So your X maybe doesn't see the touchpad ?
> 
I guess it must be treating it as a mouse (it does move the cursor or I would 
have filed a bug long ago. Maybe I need to do a total reinstall, although that 
is a PITA.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Wed May  6 15:58:09 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:58:09 +0100
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <4A01B275.5060902@tmr.com>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <4A01AACA.6060208@tmr.com>
	<1241624881.2773.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A01B275.5060902@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0905060858i57e31d06ladac874ba69f7f5d@mail.gmail.com>

>>>> System->Preferences->Mouse->Touchpad->Enable mouse clicks with touchpad
>>>>
>>> Is this something that just became available this morning? I see there's
>>> a new xorg-synaptics driver, new gdm stuff, and new control-center stuff,
>>> but my old (12 hours ago) system stops at "Mouse" and brings up a box with
>>> no reference to "Touchpad" nor is there a menu at the "Mouse" level as you
>>> seem to imply.
>>>
>>> Clarification?
>>
>> The tab only shows up if there is an X input device that looks like a
>> touchpad. So your X maybe doesn't see the touchpad ?
>>
> I guess it must be treating it as a mouse (it does move the cursor or I
> would have filed a bug long ago. Maybe I need to do a total reinstall,
> although that is a PITA.

What does it say its detected as in /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Peter



From davidsen at tmr.com  Wed May  6 16:05:25 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:05:25 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-07 - Fedora Test Day - Virtualization
In-Reply-To: <49FF2A22.30802@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <1241453678.2726.76.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<20090504125444.25cf54b8@tomh>	<1241458123.2726.96.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<49FF2A22.30802@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <4A01B545.8020102@tmr.com>

shmuel siegel wrote:
> James Laska wrote:
>> http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Virtualization_Guide/index.html.  
>>
>> One thing I've referenced several times while playing with
>> Virtualization in Fedora is
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_Quick_Start.  This document
>> appears to be actively maintained.  Lastly, you might be interested in
>> following the Virt updates posted to the fedora weekly news
>> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Virtualization_Beat).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> James
>>   
> One use case that I would like to see documented, using an installed 
> windows environment as my guest os. I once saw documentation on how to 
> do this with vmware but not how to do this from fedora virtualization. I 
> would really prefer to reuse my existing windows installation.
> 
I might be able to help you do that under KVM, but I have minimal knowlege of 
going through the virt-* complexities, it just seemed that it was very hard to 
use for ad-hoc machine creation, like starting an existing machine with another 
disk image attached as an additional drive (which I seem to do more than I should).

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From davidsen at tmr.com  Wed May  6 16:12:33 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:12:33 -0400
Subject: Preview on Abit VH6
In-Reply-To: <49FF35E0.8070407@omen.com>
References: <49FF35E0.8070407@omen.com>
Message-ID: <4A01B6F1.2000403@tmr.com>

Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> It took a while, but I finally was able to install the 386 Preview on
> a PIII with768 mb.  The first attempt failed with errors on the
> CD drive.  For some reason Ubuntu 9.04 was able to install.
> 
> I then replaced the CD drive and was able to get the Preview to
> install, without errors, albeit rather slowly.  Once installed, Preview
> worked normally once the Ethernet was plugged in.  It was a
> disappointment that the network manager did not identify an
> unplugged ethernet cable.
> 
> On a whim I tried a suspend, first time I've ever tried it with Linux.
> On powerup it loaded some stuff then locked up without any
> messages.
> 
Update to the latest rawhide packages, that solved my powerdown and reboot 
issues, and I suspect that it will help suspend as well. I will be testing in 
the next few days, the machine I first tried doesn't suspend on the best of 
days, with any O/S. :-(

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 16:26:13 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 09:26:13 -0700
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
	<4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>
	<CtV4x70OtC6X73BBpjxI3zQAO6rTwLpYCSdXW0ZCvxU0FtPmaxerKQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
	<4A007024.8060401@nerd.com> <4A00951B.9000206@fedoraproject.org>
	<4A00B61F.5000607@nerd.com> <4A00B928.7000603@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <87hbzyi4ey.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>


 On 05/06/2009 03:26 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> I don't know that I'd call it a bug.  NM works okay (when you ignore its
> other bugs) IF you've got a desktop session going.  Problem is, if you
> authenticate off LDAP or NIS/NIS+, you'll never get a desktop session
> because you can't authenticate.  There's the catch-22 of it.

BTW, this is the same catch-22 that one has for nfs-mounted home
directories.

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              http://www.full-steam.org/  (ipv6-only)
         You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



From davidsen at tmr.com  Wed May  6 16:29:48 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:29:48 -0400
Subject: speeding up boot even more? (rebuild mkinitrd)
In-Reply-To: <20090505054153.6481481a@zooty>
References: <20090504211052.48685cbe@zooty>	<1241495089.2943.9.camel@zebes>
	<20090505054153.6481481a@zooty>
Message-ID: <4A01BAFC.70206@tmr.com>

Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 04 May 2009 23:44:49 -0400
> Will Woods wrote:
> 
>> Nope. mkinitrd is pretty smart - if you don't have mdraid/dmraid/LVM
>> volumes, it doesn't bother putting the modules / setup code in the
>> initrd. 
> 
> Then why do I get all the messages before udev up around the time
> initrd is running about "no raids found" and such?
> 
>> In short: don't bother, it won't change anything. But if you must.. 
>> kv=$(uname -r); mkinitrd --stuff -v -f /boot/initrd-$kv.img $kv 
> 
> Yea, I finally realized I could find the code running mkinitrd
> in the postinstall script for the kernel package and dug out much
> the same thing. Weirdly, I get an initrd image that is almost
> twice as big when I omit lots of stuff :-).
> 
As Will said "Nope. mkinitrd is pretty smart" and he meant it. ;-)

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed May  6 16:55:08 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:55:08 -0400
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <87hbzyi4ey.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
	<4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>
	<CtV4x70OtC6X73BBpjxI3zQAO6rTwLpYCSdXW0ZCvxU0FtPmaxerKQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
	<4A007024.8060401@nerd.com> <4A00951B.9000206@fedoraproject.org>
	<4A00B61F.5000607@nerd.com> <4A00B928.7000603@fedoraproject.org>
	<87hbzyi4ey.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>
Message-ID: <20090506125508.57eccb25@zooty>

On Wed, 06 May 2009 09:26:13 -0700
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:

> BTW, this is the same catch-22 that one has for nfs-mounted home
> directories.

The whole problem was the presentation of NM as a "replacement"
for the old network stuff when in fact they have almost nothing
in common. The old network code was flawless with static
IPs and unchanging DHCP assigned network connections and just
absolutely dead horrible at wireless and portable computers
that hop around between networks.

The so-called replacement NM, is (by all accounts) finally wonderful
with wireless and wot-not, but in the process rendered fixed
and unchanging network addresses with perfectly valid reasons
to be activated at boot time completely broken. This is not
a replacement, it is something completely different that has
a tiny overlap because they both deal with networking in some way.

The problem was telling anaconda to always activate only NM.
Anaconda should have some radio buttons like:

   o My primary network needs to be activated at boot and never changes

   o My primary network changes all the time as I flit about from
     one hotspot to another.

   o I don't want to configure networking at this time.

Then it could setup either network or NM (or nothing) as the default.

Once upon a time anaconda did indeed ask you to make a choice, but
the question was something like:

   Use NetworkManager to control your networking?

To which my reaction always was "What the $#@! is NetworkManager?"

Alternatively, they could really make NM be a viable replacement,
but they broke so many subtle little frills (like being utterly
incompatible with the old dhclient hook scripts), that I don't know
if NM could ever manage to be a useful replacement.



From dgboles at comcast.net  Wed May  6 17:04:47 2009
From: dgboles at comcast.net (David)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:04:47 -0400
Subject: does a fully updated beta correspond to an updated preview?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060754110.18173@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060716110.14178@localhost.localdomain>	<954b158e0905060450r522115bchf1ff7ea9736ca592@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060754110.18173@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A01C32F.4030401@comcast.net>

On 5/6/2009 7:57 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Wed, 6 May 2009, Xia Shing Zee wrote:

>> It only takes 10 minutes to install preview. At least on an Intel
>> T8300 2.8GHz CPU with 3gb of ram. 5400rpm harddrive I think.

>   that would be true if we were talking about a redundant, throw-away
> system.  i'm actually running the f11 beta on my main laptop which, if
> things break, i'm under some pressure to get them fixed again or i
> don't get any work done.  so it's a bit more of an issue for me to
> re-install everything.

>   hence my recent carping and whining about radeon drivers not working
> and alpine being screwed up.  cuz when those things don't work, it
> really affects me.  and gives me serious incentive to try to debug
> them.

>   just living life dangerously.


You did read the warning about using Rawhide on production/needed machines
did you not?  :-)

Seriously. Rawhide is supposed to break from time to time. And does.


-- 


  David



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed May  6 17:21:05 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:21:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: does a fully updated beta correspond to an updated preview?
In-Reply-To: <4A01C32F.4030401@comcast.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060716110.14178@localhost.localdomain>
	<954b158e0905060450r522115bchf1ff7ea9736ca592@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905060754110.18173@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A01C32F.4030401@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905061316280.3805@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 6 May 2009, David wrote:

> You did read the warning about using Rawhide on production/needed
> machines did you not?  :-)
>
> Seriously. Rawhide is supposed to break from time to time. And does.

  i'm well aware of the danger.  and i've found that if i play with
beta releases and previews on an optional system, then there's the
overwhelming temptation that, when things go south, you just walk away
from it and wait for someone else to deal with it.

  OTOH, if you kind of depend on that system, then you have skin in
the game and are more prepared to invest time in debugging and
testing.

  that's not something i'd recommend to most folks.  but as long as i
guarantee that i can always recover in short order, it helps keep me
focused.  whatever works.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May  6 17:27:59 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:27:59 -0700
Subject: Bug workflow page revised
Message-ID: <1241630879.2923.464.camel@adam.local.net>

Hi, guys.

I just got a bit inspired by a QA meeting discussion, and have made
substantial revisions to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow . It should
now be a lot more comprehensive and informative about the whole Fedora
cycle (and it's also in the right order!)

I know we considered it substantially a duplicate of
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html , but I had second
thoughts about that. That page doesn't cover the process exactly, more
just describes the fields. It also really is mostly about RHEL, and I
think trying to talk about the rather different RHEL and Fedora
processes in one page would get very confusing.

So I'm now thinking that
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow should be
the official reference point for Fedora, and we can ask for the
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html page to say at the
top that it talks about RHEL, and direct you to the Wiki page for the
Fedora system.

Does this sound sensible? Do my changes to the Wiki page look good to
everyone?

Thanks!
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From ricks at nerd.com  Wed May  6 17:48:22 2009
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:48:22 -0700
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <20090506125508.57eccb25@zooty>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>	<4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>	<CtV4x70OtC6X73BBpjxI3zQAO6rTwLpYCSdXW0ZCvxU0FtPmaxerKQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>	<4A007024.8060401@nerd.com>
	<4A00951B.9000206@fedoraproject.org>	<4A00B61F.5000607@nerd.com>
	<4A00B928.7000603@fedoraproject.org>	<87hbzyi4ey.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>
	<20090506125508.57eccb25@zooty>
Message-ID: <4A01CD66.1040303@nerd.com>

Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 06 May 2009 09:26:13 -0700
> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> 
>> BTW, this is the same catch-22 that one has for nfs-mounted home
>> directories.
> 
> The whole problem was the presentation of NM as a "replacement"
> for the old network stuff when in fact they have almost nothing
> in common. The old network code was flawless with static
> IPs and unchanging DHCP assigned network connections and just
> absolutely dead horrible at wireless and portable computers
> that hop around between networks.

Well, it wasn't easy but it worked OK if you understood the weirdness
of wpa_supplicant and set up multiple network profiles (which I still
have).

You're right though...NM is NOT a network management replacement.  And
unless they provide it with a relatively easy way to grok that "the
network HAS to be up at boot time", it never will and Anaconda should
give you the option of using the old network scripts or WM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer                      ricks at nerd.com -
- AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 22643734            Yahoo: origrps2 -
-                                                                    -
-  Tempt not the dragons of fate, since thou art crunchy and taste   -
-                         good with ketchup.                         -
----------------------------------------------------------------------



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Wed May  6 17:49:24 2009
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 19:49:24 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <4A007024.8060401@nerd.com>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
	<4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>
	<CtV4x70OtC6X73BBpjxI3zQAO6rTwLpYCSdXW0ZCvxU0FtPmaxerKQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
	<4A007024.8060401@nerd.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905061947070.1489@sandbox.cz>

On Tue, 5 May 2009, Rick Stevens wrote:

> Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:
>
> Does anyone else find it odd that ypbind (necessary for network-based
> logins via NIS) is dependent on a service that will not start until a
> user is already logged in?  Ditto for anything authenticating off a
> remote LDAP server.  Can you say "Catch-22"?

Well it is odd, but may be it is meant in a new "upstart" way, that if 
service needs network, it will start NM as dependency.

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer                      ricks at nerd.com -
> - AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 22643734            Yahoo: origrps2 -
> -                                                                    -
> -                   Never try to outstubborn a cat.                  -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Adam Pribyl



From ricks at nerd.com  Wed May  6 18:27:24 2009
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:27:24 -0700
Subject: NetworkManage and ypbind
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905061947070.1489@sandbox.cz>
References: <rSpp-Z3-cmxCd-YBNvpCaJ1FAKC9VfzgNAzZZAhqWgSUTSdDQfv4qA@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>	<4A00588B.6050303@freenet.de>	<CtV4x70OtC6X73BBpjxI3zQAO6rTwLpYCSdXW0ZCvxU0FtPmaxerKQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>	<4A007024.8060401@nerd.com>
	<alpine.DEB.1.10.0905061947070.1489@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <4A01D68C.5000202@nerd.com>

Adam Pribyl wrote:
> On Tue, 5 May 2009, Rick Stevens wrote:
> 
>> Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone else find it odd that ypbind (necessary for network-based
>> logins via NIS) is dependent on a service that will not start until a
>> user is already logged in?  Ditto for anything authenticating off a
>> remote LDAP server.  Can you say "Catch-22"?
> 
> Well it is odd, but may be it is meant in a new "upstart" way, that if 
> service needs network, it will start NM as dependency.

That's not the issue.  NM is started.  You don't get access to any 
networks _until_ you log in as NM uses the user info to show you which
networks are available to you.  Problem is, it's impossible to log in if
you authenticate against NIS or LDAP which both need the network
accessible in order to authenticate the user.  Round and round we go.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer                      ricks at nerd.com -
- AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 22643734            Yahoo: origrps2 -
-                                                                    -
- "I was contemplating the immortal words of Socrates when he said,  -
- 'I drank what?'"                   -- Val Kilmer in "Real Genius"  -
----------------------------------------------------------------------



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May  6 19:09:03 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:09:03 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-06 - Fedora QA Meeting Recap
In-Reply-To: <1241618719.2370.163.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1241618719.2370.163.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1241636943.2370.183.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

Full IRC transcript available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090506

= Attendees =

* adamw (Adam Williamson)
* wwoods (Will Woods)
* jlaska (James Laska)
* Pip
* viking_ice (J?hann Gu?mundsson)
* f13 (Jesse Keating)

= Previous meeting follow-up =

* [jlaska] - transfer autoqa tasks into TRAC instance with milestones
** Tickets filed under F11 milestone -
https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Fedora%2011

* [wwoods] - checking for a bug about an upgrade issue
** Performing a lot of upgrade tests and working w/ dwalsh to identify
+resolve issues
** 494995 Aborting upgrade of F10 to F11-beta leaves system unbootable
** 496618 bootloader.images.getDefault() returns None
** 499321 preupgrade backtrace
** 498843 Upgrade with VNC asks for password after reboot
** 496311 Preupgrade fails  can't read kick start file

* [jlaska] - ensure the failing disk drive issue is tracked in bugzilla
and get a Release note documented for running smartctl
** No action here 
** wwoods pointed to [[rhbug:495956|495956]] Ignore some failing SMART
attributes

* [wwoods] - review F11Blocker SELinux bugs
** there's not a lot of SELinux-specific stuff that I remember from the
blocker list
** 469257 selinux policy and mozplugger do not get along

* [jlaska] - review F11Blocker anaconda bugs
** Great discussion on fedora-list and fedora-test-list this past week.
I've been working to connect reporters with developers to fast track
defect resolution
** The majority of issues seem related to dmraid and previous disk
layout integration

* [adamw] - continue review of X11 bugs and volume control issues

= Autoqa update =

* jlaska created a wiki milestone and outlined Fedora 11 tasks
(https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Fedora%2011)
* jkeating added new conflicts detection test
* wwoods plans to revisit autoqa in the coming days

= F-11 Volume control update =

* adamw noted that pavucontrol will not be shipped by default for f11.
There will be two mixers, the new gnome-volume-control (a Pulse-style
mixer) and gst-mixer

= F-11-GA Prep =

* Blocker bug -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1       
* Schedule - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule
* First RC?  Somewhere between 2009-05-12 and 2009-05-21

= Open discussion =

== Defining Release Candidate testing ==

jlaska asked whether providing "official" test summaries around areas
tested, areas not tested, known issues would be useful for release
engineering to make a decision.  Jesse indicated he dislikes making the
release decision by himself, especially when it's late at night and no
one is around.  

jlaska asked if there is value in defining how the release candidate
phase works now?  Jesse approved and recommended a separate meeting to
discuss further.

Take aways ...
* Begin documenting how the release candidate phase works now
* Experiment during F12 with scheduled release meetings

== Needs Retesting ==

While reviewing SELinux Block bugs, jlaska asked if we had a stock
response for requesting retesting.  Adamw noted that a "please retest"
didn't yet exist in [[BugZappers/StockBugzillaResponses]].  Jesse
pointed to the RSS feed for NEEDS_TESTING bugs
(http://feeds.feedburner.com/NeedsRetesting).

This led to discussion on how Rawhide bugs work through the system.
Adamw recommended just closing as fixed when the developer checks in
something they're pretty sure fixes it.  Jesse & Will reminded that
during freezes, bugs shouldn't transition to CLOSED/RAWHIDE until the
package has been tagged for rawhide.  It was discovered that the wiki
page [[BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow]] didn't capture closing bugs for
rawhide, only stable releases.  Adam took an action item to update.

== RelEng Proposal to drop Alpha ==

viking_ice reminded that a proposal is circulating for dropping F12
Alpha.  Jesse directed folks to fedora-devel-list
(https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-May/msg00311.html) to participate in the discussion.

= Upcoming QA events =
* 2009-05-07 - [[Test_Day:2009-05-07_Virtualization|Virtualization Test
Day]]
* 2009-05-12 - [[BugZappers/Triage_days]]
* 2009-05-14 - [[Test Day:2009-05-14 iBus|iBus Test Day]]

= Action items =

* [wwoods] - write a few more upgrade cases (encrypted root upgrade)
* [adamw] - update [[BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow]] wiki page to include
MODIFED->CLOSE process for rawhide bugs during freeze
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/5df6467e/attachment.sig>

From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Wed May  6 19:44:43 2009
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike Cloaked)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:44:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Fedora repo down?
Message-ID: <23414060.post@talk.nabble.com>


Try going to:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/10/i386/

I get
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /pub/fedora/linux/updates/10/i386/ on
this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an
ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Is this being fixed soon?
-- 
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fedora-repo-down--tp23414060p23414060.html
Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



From notting at redhat.com  Wed May  6 19:50:57 2009
From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:50:57 -0400
Subject: Fedora repo down?
In-Reply-To: <23414060.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <23414060.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <20090506195057.GA20267@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>

Mike Cloaked (mike.cloaked at gmail.com) said: 
> Try going to:
> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/10/i386/
> 
> I get
> Forbidden
> 
> You don't have permission to access /pub/fedora/linux/updates/10/i386/ on
> this server.
> 
> Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an
> ErrorDocument to handle the request.
> 
> Is this being fixed soon?

It's a known outage. See:

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-May/msg00022.html

Bill



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May  6 19:54:18 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:54:18 -0700
Subject: Fedora repo down?
In-Reply-To: <23414060.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <23414060.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1241639658.2923.473.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 12:44 -0700, Mike Cloaked wrote:
> Try going to:
> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/10/i386/
> 
> I get
> Forbidden
> 
> You don't have permission to access /pub/fedora/linux/updates/10/i386/ on
> this server.
> 
> Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an
> ErrorDocument to handle the request.
> 
> Is this being fixed soon?
> -- 
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fedora-repo-down--tp23414060p23414060.html
> Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

                              From: 
Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com>
                          Reply-to: 
fedora-devel-list at redhat.com
                                To: 
Fedora Infrastructure List
<fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com>
                                Cc: 
mirror-list-d at redhat.com,
fedora-devel-announce at redhat.com,
fedora-websites-list at redhat.com
                           Subject: 
Outage Notification - 2009-05-06
18:00 UTC
                              Date: 
Tue, 5 May 2009 10:59:06 -0500 (CDT)
(08:59 PDT)


There will be an outage starting at 2009-05-06 18:00 UTC, which will
last
approximately 2 hours.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
or run:

date -d '2009-05-06 18:00 UTC'

Affected Services:

Primary Mirror Server
Fedora Wiki
infrastructure.fedoraproject.org
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Wed May  6 20:35:54 2009
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike Cloaked)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:35:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Fedora repo down?
In-Reply-To: <1241639658.2923.473.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <23414060.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<1241639658.2923.473.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <23415003.post@talk.nabble.com>




Adam Williamson-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> There will be an outage starting at 2009-05-06 18:00 UTC, which will
> last
> approximately 2 hours.
> 
> 

Thanks  -  it is back up again now.
-- 
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fedora-repo-down--tp23414060p23415003.html
Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed May  6 20:57:55 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 20:57:55 +0000
Subject: Fedora repo down?
In-Reply-To: <1241639658.2923.473.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <23414060.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<1241639658.2923.473.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A01F9D3.8080304@hi.is>

On 05/06/2009 07:54 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:


<snip>
.....
</snip>

> There will be an outage starting at 2009-05-06 18:00 UTC, which will
> last
> approximately 2 hours.
>
> To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
> or run:
>
> date -d '2009-05-06 18:00 UTC'
>
> Affected Services:
>
> Primary Mirror Server
> Fedora Wiki
>   


That explains why I could not save

fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Bug_Hunters_Guide_To_The_Galaxy

Well easy come easy go...

-- 
Viking-Ice 

One of my gods has a hammer your's was nailed to a cross
You do the math!



From Andrew.Cannon at amec.com  Wed May  6 21:30:03 2009
From: Andrew.Cannon at amec.com (Cannon, Andrew C)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:30:03 +0100
Subject: linux askmethod... how?
Message-ID: <5380B9C81BCDFD459FFCE94322F7109E151151@IXA-EX1.uk.int.amec.com>



Okay, this is a very simple question, with probably a very simple answer, but I cannot for the life of me work out how to put in the alternative method 'linux askmethod' at the grub screen.

When I boot from the CD, I get a brief flash of the text screen, and then it goes to the blue screen with the four options on.  I can press F1 to F5, but I still can't get anywhere.  The prompt will give the vmlinuz bit, but when I delete that and type in linux askmethod, I just get put back to the blue screen.

I know I've missed something, but what?

TIA

Andy


--
This email contains confidential information. The contents must
not be disclosed to anyone else except with the authority of the sender.
Unauthorised recipients are requested to maintain this confidentiality and
immediately advise the sender of any error or misdirection in transmission.

The following notice applies to emails originating in the UK.
E-mails sent on behalf of AMEC are sent on behalf of the relevant AMEC
company below. These are registered in England and Wales with registered
office at Booths Park, Chelford Road, Knutsford, Cheshire WA16 8QZ and
number as shown: AMEC plc 01675285, AMEC Group Limited 04612748,
AMEC Capital Projects Limited 02804109, AMEC Earth and Environmental UK
Limited 04987981, AMEC Nuclear Holdings Limited 03725076,
AMEC Nuclear M & O Limited 05664844, AMEC Nuclear UK Limited 01120437,
AMEC Nuclear International Limited 03260477, AMEC Nuclear Projects
Limited 05664962  and National Nuclear Corporation Limited 02290928
--
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/f4f691f9/attachment.htm>

From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Wed May  6 22:07:18 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 16:07:18 -0600
Subject: Mouse choices
Message-ID: <1241647638.3290.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I am left-handed and I can not get my mouse to switch.  I personally
believe something is broke. Please look into this problem.  It is
probably something simple is why I can't figure out what it is. It
started when I upgraded to F11.  Other than I can't get Vmware to turn
off or on, F11 is running fine for me.
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Wed May  6 22:10:16 2009
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:10:16 -0400
Subject: linux askmethod... how?
In-Reply-To: <5380B9C81BCDFD459FFCE94322F7109E151151@IXA-EX1.uk.int.amec.com>
References: <5380B9C81BCDFD459FFCE94322F7109E151151@IXA-EX1.uk.int.amec.com>
Message-ID: <1241647816.12122.245.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 22:30 +0100, Cannon, Andrew C wrote:
> 
> Okay, this is a very simple question, with probably a very simple
> answer, but I cannot for the life of me work out how to put in the
> alternative method 'linux askmethod' at the grub screen.
> 
> When I boot from the CD, I get a brief flash of the text screen, and
> then it goes to the blue screen with the four options on.  I can press
> F1 to F5, but I still can't get anywhere.  The prompt will give the
> vmlinuz bit, but when I delete that and type in linux askmethod, I
> just get put back to the blue screen.
> 
> I know I've missed something, but what?

You no longer need the "linux" just the "askmethod". That is, you add
askmethod to the kernel line already in place.

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/47fa3aa2/attachment.sig>

From haase.niels at googlemail.com  Wed May  6 22:58:46 2009
From: haase.niels at googlemail.com (Niels Haase)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 00:58:46 +0200
Subject: Bug workflow page revised
In-Reply-To: <1241630879.2923.464.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1241630879.2923.464.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <571dcba60905061558h798615efy92867111f7323332@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/6 Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>:
> Hi, guys.
>
> I just got a bit inspired by a QA meeting discussion, and have made
> substantial revisions to
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow . It should
> now be a lot more comprehensive and informative about the whole Fedora
> cycle (and it's also in the right order!)

Looks good, but I was wondering about the CURRENTRELEASE, DEFERRED and
NEXTRELEASE resolutions. You wrote that this are used only for the
RHEL workflow, but if I look at this list http://tinyurl.com/dbaae5
(all closed bugs from NetworkManager in F10) it shows up many of the
above resolutions. Sometimes they are set (wrongly) by the developer
or, with seams to be more problematic, by updates at fedoraproject.org,
like here https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_activity.cgi?id=492246 . It
looks wrong for me, or did I missed something?

> So I'm now thinking that
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow should be
> the official reference point for Fedora, and we can ask for the
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html page to say at the
> top that it talks about RHEL, and direct you to the Wiki page for the
> Fedora system.
Sounds very good, I'm also get confused in the first time I read this
field description and looked at the (old) workflow wiki page.

--
Regards,
Niels



From haase.niels at googlemail.com  Wed May  6 23:11:32 2009
From: haase.niels at googlemail.com (Niels Haase)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 01:11:32 +0200
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <81481f630905041939p543f5a10lb831290a9d0980ae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<81481f630905021155s4e26ba7cx458b56ed4ba07c79@mail.gmail.com>
	<23349538.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<81481f630905021247qe4b4b53qb3c19603d9ae0d0d@mail.gmail.com>
	<81481f630905041939p543f5a10lb831290a9d0980ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <571dcba60905061611o1774d0cax75983e1a3c132acc@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/5 iarly selbir | ski0s <iarlyy at gmail.com>:
> I was talking about my problem with my 3G ( wireless broadband ), but I
> don't know what component in bugzilla to file a bug about it.

If I looked at your f11 fpaste link, it seems that you need the
usb_modeswitch tool. It looks like your 3G card runs in memory stick
mode to provide windows drivers. This will mostly blocks the broadband
function.

--
Regards,
Niels



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May  6 23:31:01 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 16:31:01 -0700
Subject: Bug workflow page revised
In-Reply-To: <571dcba60905061558h798615efy92867111f7323332@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1241630879.2923.464.camel@adam.local.net>
	<571dcba60905061558h798615efy92867111f7323332@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241652661.2923.478.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 00:58 +0200, Niels Haase wrote:
> 2009/5/6 Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>:
> > Hi, guys.
> >
> > I just got a bit inspired by a QA meeting discussion, and have made
> > substantial revisions to
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow . It should
> > now be a lot more comprehensive and informative about the whole Fedora
> > cycle (and it's also in the right order!)
> 
> Looks good, but I was wondering about the CURRENTRELEASE, DEFERRED and
> NEXTRELEASE resolutions. You wrote that this are used only for the
> RHEL workflow, but if I look at this list http://tinyurl.com/dbaae5
> (all closed bugs from NetworkManager in F10) it shows up many of the
> above resolutions. Sometimes they are set (wrongly) by the developer
> or, with seams to be more problematic, by updates at fedoraproject.org,
> like here https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_activity.cgi?id=492246 . It
> looks wrong for me, or did I missed something?

That's interesting, we'd have to check that. AIUI those resolutions just
don't apply to Fedora. ERRATA is what should be used when an update is
released, so any bots should I think be changed to use that.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed May  6 23:33:38 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:33:38 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090506233338.3A53710F8A4@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    TurboGears-1.0.8-3.fc9
    akonadi-1.1.2-1.fc9
    choqok-0.5-3.fc9
    clthreads-2.4.0-3.fc9
    flashrom-0.9.0-1.fc9
    ipsec-tools-0.7.2-1.fc9
    kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.1-0.11.20090504svn.fc9
    nemiver-0.6.7-1.fc9
    nfoview-1.4-3.fc9
    perl-Convert-Binary-C-0.74-1.fc9
    perl-DBD-Pg-2.13.1-1.fc9
    perl-XML-XPathEngine-0.12-1.fc9
    php-ezc-Archive-1.3.3-1.fc9
    php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.16-1.fc9
    rednotebook-0.6.8-1.fc9
    rfdump-1.6-3.fc9
    rubygem-picnic-0.8.1-1.fc9
    rubygem-reststop-0.4.0-1.fc9
    timespan-2.1-2.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 TurboGears-1.0.8-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4269)
 Back-to-front web development in Python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes a bug where backwards compat was dropped for the allow_limit_override in
the paginate decorator.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Toshio Kuratomi <toshio at fedoraproject.org> - 1.0.8-3
- Fix from upstream for pagination problem.
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.0.8-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Jan  3 2009 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 1.0.8-1
- Latest upstream release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 akonadi-1.1.2-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4264)
 PIM Storage Service
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A new release with fix to avoid DBUS lockups.    See also upstream bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/182198
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.1.2-1
- akonadi-1.1.2
- optimize scriptlets a bit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 choqok-0.5-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4237)
 Choqok KDE Micro-Blogging Client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Patched choqok to remember state of tweet to all
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 10 2009 Tejas Dinkar <tejas at gja.in> - 0.5-3
- Added the TweetAll patch, remove this by 0.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 clthreads-2.4.0-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4253)
 POSIX threads C++ access library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Clthreads is a C++ wrapper library around the POSIX threads API.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498862 - Review Request: clthreads - POSIX threads C++ access library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498862
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 flashrom-0.9.0-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4241)
 Simple program for reading/writing BIOS chips content
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ver. 0.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov at gmail.com> 0.9.0-1
- Ver. 0.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ipsec-tools-0.7.2-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4291)
 Tools for configuring and using IPSEC
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Minor version update from upstream fixing remote DoS.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 0.7.2-1
- Update to a new upstream version
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.7.1-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Jan 15 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 0.7.1-7
- rebuild with new openssl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497990 - ipsec-tools: racoon NULL dereference in fragmentation code
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497990
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.1-0.11.20090504svn.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-2698)
 NetworkManager KDE 4 integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This new package provides a native KDE 4 applet/widget (plasmoid) to control
NetworkManager, as an alternative to the GNOME nm-applet (NetworkManager-gnome).
Please note that this is still alpha software with known issues. We still
recommend nm-applet from NetworkManager-gnome for production use.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nemiver-0.6.7-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4287)
 A GNOME C/C++ Debugger
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream release (0.6.7)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Dodji Seketeli <dodji at gnome.org> - 0.6.7-1
- Update to new upstream release (0.6.7)
- Don't package *.la and *.a files in plugins
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nfoview-1.4-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4221)
 Viewer for NFO files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

NFO Viewer is a simple viewer for NFO files, which are "ASCII" art in  the CP437
codepage. The advantages of using NFO Viewer instead of a  text editor are
preset font and encoding settings, automatic window  size and clickable
hyperlinks.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496677 - Review Request: nfoview - Viewer for NFO files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496677
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Convert-Binary-C-0.74-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4229)
 Binary data conversion using C types
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream (0.74).  Also fixes various upstream bugs.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.74-1
- Update to latest upstream (0.74)
- Drop GCC 4.4 patch (fixed upstream)
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.71-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sun Feb  8 2009 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.71-2
- Add patch to fix #elif directives for new GCC 4.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-DBD-Pg-2.13.1-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4301)
 A PostgreSQL interface for perl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version, closing two memory leaks.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Stepan Kasal <skasal at redhat.com> - 2.13.1-1
- new upstream release, also fixes #498899
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 2.11.6-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Dec  5 2008 Stepan Kasal <skasal at redhat.com> - 2.11.6-2
- fix the source URL
* Fri Dec  5 2008 Marcela Ma?l??ov? <mmaslano at redhat.com> - 2.11.6-1
- update
* Fri Oct 31 2008 Marcela Maslanova <mmaslano at redhat.com> - 2.11.2-1
- update to 2.11.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498899 - perl-DBD-Pg: two memleaks from upstream RT
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498899
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-XML-XPathEngine-0.12-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4303)
 Re-usable XPath engine for DOM-like trees
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updates to latest upstream.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.12-1
- Update to latest upstream (#499068)
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.11-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499068 - update XML-XPathEngine to 0.12 in rawhide please
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499068
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Archive-1.3.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4276)
 Create, modify, and extract archive files of various formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The component allows you to create, modify, and extract archive files of various
formats.  The currently supported archives formats are Tar (with the flavours:
ustar, v7, pax, and gnu) and Zip.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490849 - Review Request: php-ezc-Archive- eZ Components Archive
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490849
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.16-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4262)
 Regression testing framework for unit tests
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream ChangeLog for the PHPUnit 3.3 Release Series
http://www.phpunit.de/wiki/ChangeLog33
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Remi Collet <Fedora at famillecollet.com> - 3.3.16-1
- Upstream sync
- Fix requires (remove hint) and raise PEAR version to 1.7.1
- rename %{pear_name}.xml to %{name}.xml
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 3.3.4-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov  8 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 3.3.4-1
- Upstream sync
* Thu Oct 23 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 3.3.2-1
- Upstream sync
- Remove no longer needed Obsolete/Provides
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498684 - Please consider upgrading phpunit
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498684
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rednotebook-0.6.8-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4268)
 A desktop diary
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sun May 03 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.8-1  -
Updated to new upstream version 0.6.8 * Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.7 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.8-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.8
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7
* Sun Apr  5 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rfdump-1.6-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4245)
 RFID tags detector
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Patch to honor $RPM_OPT_FLAGS during build.  - Disable autotools dependency
tracking during build for cleaner build logs    and possible slight build
speedup.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 1.6-4
- Patch to honor $RPM_OPT_FLAGS during build.
- Disable autotools dependency tracking during build for cleaner build logs
  and possible slight build speedup.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497889 - rfdump: $RPM_OPT_FLAGS not used
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497889
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-picnic-0.8.1-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4278)
 Easier distribution of Camping-based applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip at fedoraproject.org> - 0.8.1-1
- New upstream version
* Mon Mar 16 2009 Jeroen van Meeuwen <j.van.meeuwen at ogd.nl> - 0.7.1-1
- New upstream version
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.6.5-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-reststop-0.4.0-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4263)
 Convenient RESTfulness for all your Camping controller needs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 timespan-2.1-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4279)
 A tool that performs date-based time calculations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Patch to avoid overriding $CXXFLAGS set by user during build.  - Disable
autotools dependency tracking during build for cleaner build logs    and
possible slight build speedup.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497883 - timespan: $RPM_OPT_FLAGS not used
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497883
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed May  6 23:33:38 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:33:38 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090506233338.5D49810F8AF@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    TurboGears-1.0.8-3.fc10
    akonadi-1.1.2-1.fc10
    choqok-0.5-3.fc10
    clthreads-2.4.0-3.fc10
    cronie-1.2-8.fc10
    ecryptfs-utils-75-1.fc10
    fedora-devshell-0.1.1-1.fc10
    fedora-ksplice-0.5-6.fc10
    filezilla-3.1.6-1.fc10.1
    flashrom-0.9.0-1.fc10
    glibmm24-2.18.2-1.fc10
    icecream-0.9.4-1.fc10
    ipsec-tools-0.7.2-1.fc10
    kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.1-0.11.20090504svn.fc10
    ksh-20090501-1.fc10
    lxde-common-0.4-1.fc10
    nemiver-0.6.7-1.fc10
    nfoview-1.4-3.fc10
    openoffice.org-3.0.1-15.4.fc10
    perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Cache-0.08-2.fc10
    perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Setenv-0.03-1.fc10
    perl-Class-Mix-0.002-1.fc10
    perl-Convert-Binary-C-0.74-1.fc10
    perl-DBD-Pg-2.13.1-1.fc10
    perl-Data-FormValidator-Constraints-DateTime-1.09-1.fc10
    perl-HTML-GenToc-3.10-1.fc10
    perl-HTML-Toc-1.11-1.fc10
    perl-Module-Pluggable-Ordered-1.5-1.fc10
    perl-Mouse-0.22-1.fc10
    perl-Term-Prompt-1.04-1.fc10
    perl-Text-Context-EitherSide-1.4-1.fc10
    perl-Text-Textile-2.03-1.fc10
    perl-XML-TokeParser-0.05-1.fc10
    perl-XML-XPathEngine-0.12-1.fc10
    phonon-4.3.1-4.fc10
    php-ezc-Archive-1.3.3-1.fc10
    php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.16-1.fc10
    rednotebook-0.6.8-1.fc10
    rfdump-1.6-3.fc10
    rubygem-picnic-0.8.1-1.fc10
    rubygem-reststop-0.4.0-1.fc10
    timespan-2.1-2.fc10
    xcowsay-1.1-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 TurboGears-1.0.8-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4244)
 Back-to-front web development in Python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes a bug where backwards compat was dropped for the allow_limit_override in
the paginate decorator.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Toshio Kuratomi <toshio at fedoraproject.org> - 1.0.8-3
- Fix from upstream for pagination problem.
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.0.8-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Jan  3 2009 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 1.0.8-1
- Latest upstream release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 akonadi-1.1.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4224)
 PIM Storage Service
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A new release with fix to avoid DBUS lockups.    See also upstream bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/182198
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.1.2-1
- akonadi-1.1.2
- optimize scriptlets a bit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 choqok-0.5-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4280)
 Choqok KDE Micro-Blogging Client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Patched choqok to remember state of tweet to all
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 10 2009 Tejas Dinkar <tejas at gja.in> - 0.5-3
- Added the TweetAll patch, remove this by 0.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 clthreads-2.4.0-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4235)
 POSIX threads C++ access library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Clthreads is a C++ wrapper library around the POSIX threads API.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498862 - Review Request: clthreads - POSIX threads C++ access library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498862
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cronie-1.2-8.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4304)
 Cron daemon for executing programs at set times
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This should fix problem with executing jobs under SElinux.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov? <mmaslano at redhat.com> - 1.2-8
- 498419 fix leaking file descriptor which makes SElinux unhappy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498419 - SELinux is preventing accton (acct_t) "read" to inotify (inotifyfs_t).
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498419
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ecryptfs-utils-75-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4228)
 The eCryptfs mount helper and support libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> 75-1
- updated to 75
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fedora-devshell-0.1.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4247)
 Fedora Developer's Toolbox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First builds
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fedora-ksplice-0.5-6.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4236)
 Script Collection for Using KSplice on Fedora Linux
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Fix dependency issue agains ppc64 and ppc    * Remove empty debuginfo package
Fix dependency issue for ppc64 and ppc
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 0.5-6
- Set debug_package to %{nil} (#498787)
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 0.5-5
- Build only for x86_64 and %{ix86}
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 0.5-4
- Exclude ppc64 and ppc as Architetures
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> 0.5-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498707 - fedora-ksplice: empty debuginfo package
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498707
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 filezilla-3.1.6-1.fc10.1 (FEDORA-2009-4272)
 FileZilla FTP, FTPS and SFTP client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 3.1.6-1
- Backport for F-10
- Update to 3.1.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498054 - Current version does not upload multi-level directory structures.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498054
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 flashrom-0.9.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4252)
 Simple program for reading/writing BIOS chips content
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ver. 0.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov at gmail.com> 0.9.0-1
- Ver. 0.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 glibmm24-2.18.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4249)
 C++ interface for GTK2 (a GUI library for X)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- New upstream version (memory leak fix)  - Fix for documentation graphs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Mar 24 2009 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org> - 2.18.2-1
- Update to upstream 2.18.2 (memory leak fix)
- Added patch for missing implementation (#498847)
- Added missing BRs to generate documentation graphs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498847 - Gio::File::make_directory_with_parents() - missing implementation
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498847
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 icecream-0.9.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-1858)
 Distributed compiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to current upstream release 0.9.4.    For the detailed list of changes
see the NEWS file:
http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/icecream/NEWS?revision=961598
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Michal Schmidt <mschmidt at redhat.com> - 0.9.4-1
- Upstream release 0.9.4.
- Dropped merged patches.
* Mon Apr  6 2009 Michal Schmidt <mschmidt at redhat.com> - 0.9.3-6
- Fix wrong permissions on the cache dir preventing the jobs from being
  distributed.
- SELinux policy update based on review comments on refpolicy ML.
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Michal Schmidt <mschmidt at redhat.com> - 0.9.3-5
- Fix a fd leak from iceccd + avoid using system().
- Allows tighter SELinux policy.
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.3-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Feb 16 2009 Michal Schmidt <mschmidt at redhat.com> - 0.9.3-3
- Do not use --disable-rpath, icecream's configure script does not understand
  it and warns about it. We still remove rpath using the sed tricks.
- One more SELinux policy tweak.
* Mon Feb 16 2009 Michal Schmidt <mschmidt at redhat.com> - 0.9.3-2
- Updated and re-enabled the SELinux policy. The scheduler is now confined too.
* Mon Feb 16 2009 Michal Schmidt <mschmidt at redhat.com> - 0.9.3-1
- new upstream release
- Dropped merged patches.
- Added an upstream patch to fix compilation with gcc 4.4.
* Sat Feb  7 2009 Michal Schmidt <mschmidt at redhat.com> - 0.9.2-4
- one more fix for gcc 4.4.
- updated the scheduler renaming patch.
* Sat Feb  7 2009 Michal Schmidt <mschmidt at redhat.com> - 0.9.2-3
- add an upstream patch to fix FTBFS with gcc 4.4
* Wed Jan 28 2009 Michal Schmidt <mschmidt at redhat.com> - 0.9.2-2
- Fix the create-env script not to crash on relative paths in ld.so.conf.
- No need to build the native environment as root anymore.
- Disable the SELinux policy for now, it needs more work.
* Thu Nov 13 2008 Michal Schmidt <mschmidt at redhat.com> - 0.9.2-1
- Update to upstream release 0.9.2.
- The license is GPLv2+.
- Add manpages from SUSE src package.
- Add patch to run icecc --build-native as root.
* Tue Sep  2 2008 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 0.8.0-12.20080117svn
- Include unowned icecc directories.
- Add defattr in devel pkg.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ipsec-tools-0.7.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4298)
 Tools for configuring and using IPSEC
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Minor version update from upstream fixing remote DoS.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 0.7.2-1
- Update to a new upstream version
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.7.1-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Jan 15 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 0.7.1-7
- rebuild with new openssl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497990 - ipsec-tools: racoon NULL dereference in fragmentation code
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497990
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.1-0.11.20090504svn.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-2757)
 NetworkManager KDE 4 integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This new package provides a native KDE 4 applet/widget (plasmoid) to control
NetworkManager, as an alternative to the GNOME nm-applet (NetworkManager-gnome)
and the KDE 3 knetworkmanager.    Please note that this is still alpha software
with known issues. We still recommend nm-applet from NetworkManager-gnome for
production use.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ksh-20090501-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4294)
 The Original ATT Korn Shell
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> 20090501-1
- updated to 2009-05-01
- change language catalogue to ast-base-locale (493570)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxde-common-0.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4231)
 Default configuration files for LXDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version 0.4. lxde-settings has been renamed to lxde-settings-daemon
and got it's own package. The obsolete config file
/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default has been removed from this package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4-1
- Update to 0.4
- Require lxmenu-data and lxde-settings-daemon
- Drop obsolete config file /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default
* Fri Mar  6 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.2.1-4
- Workaround for new gdm
- Add Pulseaudio support
- Add mixer plugin to the panel
- Require xdg-utils
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nemiver-0.6.7-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4232)
 A GNOME C/C++ Debugger
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream release (0.6.7)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Dodji Seketeli <dodji at redhat.org> - 0.6.7-1
- Update to new upstream release (0.6.7)
- Do not package *.la and *.a files from the plugin directory
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nfoview-1.4-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4288)
 Viewer for NFO files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

NFO Viewer is a simple viewer for NFO files, which are "ASCII" art in  the CP437
codepage. The advantages of using NFO Viewer instead of a  text editor are
preset font and encoding settings, automatic window  size and clickable
hyperlinks.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496677 - Review Request: nfoview - Viewer for NFO files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496677
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openoffice.org-3.0.1-15.4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4273)
 OpenOffice.org comprehensive office suite.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to fix commonly reported crashs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  1 2009 Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 1:3.0.1-15.4
- Resolves: rhbz#494643 EMF polypolygons issue
- Resolves: rhbz#495840 openoffice.org-3.1.0.ooo101145.vcl.safe.dpi.patch
- Resolves: rhbz#496315 openoffice.org-3.0.1.oooXXXXX.sfx2.badexception.patch
- Resolves: rhbz#484177 openoffice.org-3.1.0.ooo101354.filter.xhtml.do-not-label-list-headers.patch
- Resolves: rhbz#491159 openoffice.org-3.1.0.ooo101379.vcl.qstart.SM.patch
- Resolves: rhbz#497882 implement audio/visual looping stub
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494643 - Polypolygon records in an EMF (converted from EPS) incorrectly rejected as invalid
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494643
  [ 2 ] Bug #495840 - Fedora Core 10, OpenOffice.org crashes immediately upon startup
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495840
  [ 3 ] Bug #496315 - OO crash when trying to sign document or macro with digital signature.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496315
  [ 4 ] Bug #497882 - Movie loop flag for movies in impress does not work
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497882
  [ 5 ] Bug #484177 - List headers are (incorrectly) numbered when exporting file as XHTML
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484177
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Cache-0.08-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4254)
 Flexible caching support for Catalyst
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498772 - Review Request: perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Cache - Flexible caching support for Catalyst
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498772
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Setenv-0.03-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4238)
 Catalyst::Plugin::Setenv Perl module
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498781 - Review Request: perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Setenv - Catalyst::Plugin::Setenv Perl module
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498781
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Class-Mix-0.002-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4300)
 Dynamic class mixing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498887 - Review Request: perl-Class-Mix - Dynamic class mixing
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498887
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Convert-Binary-C-0.74-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4307)
 Binary data conversion using C types
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream (0.74)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.74-1
- Update to latest upstream (0.74)
- Drop GCC 4.4 patch (fixed upstream)
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.71-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sun Feb  8 2009 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.71-2
- Add patch to fix #elif directives for new GCC 4.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-DBD-Pg-2.13.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4296)
 A PostgreSQL interface for perl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version, closing two memory leaks.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Stepan Kasal <skasal at redhat.com> - 2.13.1-1
- new upstream release, also fixes #498899
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 2.11.6-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498899 - perl-DBD-Pg: two memleaks from upstream RT
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498899
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Data-FormValidator-Constraints-DateTime-1.09-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4251)
 D::FV constraints for dates and times
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498866 - Review Request: perl-Data-FormValidator-Constraints-DateTime - D::FV constraints for dates and times
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498866
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTML-GenToc-3.10-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4270)
 Generate a Table of Contents for HTML documents
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497690 - Review Request: perl-HTML-GenToc - Generate a Table of Contents for HTML documents
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497690
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTML-Toc-1.11-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4257)
 Generate, insert and update HTML Table of Contents
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498920 - Review Request: perl-HTML-Toc - Generate, insert and update HTML Table of Contents
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498920
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Module-Pluggable-Ordered-1.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4289)
 Call module plugins in a specified order
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498897 - Review Request: perl-Module-Pluggable-Ordered - Call module plugins in a specified order
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498897
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Mouse-0.22-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4297)
 Moose minus the antlers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.22-1
- update to 0.22
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Term-Prompt-1.04-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4274)
 Perl extension for prompting a user for information
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498785 - Review Request: perl-Term-Prompt - Perl extension for prompting a user for information
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498785
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-Context-EitherSide-1.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4267)
 Get n words either side of search keywords
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498912 - Review Request: perl-Text-Context-EitherSide - Get n words either side of search keywords
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498912
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-Textile-2.03-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4256)
 A humane web text generator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498800 - Review Request: perl-Text-Textile - A humane web text generator
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498800
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-XML-TokeParser-0.05-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4277)
 Simplified interface to XML::Parser
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498977 - Review Request: perl-XML-TokeParser - Simplified interface to XML::Parser
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498977
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-XML-XPathEngine-0.12-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4284)
 Re-usable XPath engine for DOM-like trees
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.12-1
- Update to latest upstream (#499068)
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.11-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499068 - update XML-XPathEngine to 0.12 in rawhide please
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499068
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 phonon-4.3.1-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4271)
 Multimedia framework api
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.3.1-4
- fix Source0 Url
- xine backend will not play files with non-ascii names (kdebug#172242)
* Sat Apr 11 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.3.1-3
- optimize scriptlets
- Provides/Requires: phonon-backend%{_isa} ...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #493759 - Amarok cannot load files from a directory containing characters in another encoding
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493759
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Archive-1.3.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4302)
 Create, modify, and extract archive files of various formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The component allows you to create, modify, and extract archive files of various
formats.  The currently supported archives formats are Tar (with the flavours:
ustar, v7, pax, and gnu) and Zip.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490849 - Review Request: php-ezc-Archive- eZ Components Archive
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490849
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.16-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4239)
 Regression testing framework for unit tests
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream ChangeLog for the PHPUnit 3.3 Release Series
http://www.phpunit.de/wiki/ChangeLog33
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Remi Collet <Fedora at famillecollet.com> - 3.3.16-1
- Upstream sync
- Fix requires (remove hint) and raise PEAR version to 1.7.1
- rename %{pear_name}.xml to %{name}.xml
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 3.3.4-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov  8 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 3.3.4-1
- Upstream sync
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498684 - Please consider upgrading phpunit
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498684
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rednotebook-0.6.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4293)
 A desktop diary
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sun May 03 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.8-1  -
Updated to new upstream version 0.6.8 * Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.7 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.8-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.8
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7
* Sun Apr  5 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rfdump-1.6-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4220)
 RFID tags detector
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Patch to honor $RPM_OPT_FLAGS during build.  - Disable autotools dependency
tracking during build for cleaner build logs    and possible slight build
speedup.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 1.6-3
- Patch to honor $RPM_OPT_FLAGS during build.
- Disable autotools dependency tracking during build for cleaner build logs
  and possible slight build speedup.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497889 - rfdump: $RPM_OPT_FLAGS not used
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497889
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-picnic-0.8.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4290)
 Easier distribution of Camping-based applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip at fedoraproject.org> - 0.8.1-1
- New upstream version
* Mon Mar 16 2009 Jeroen van Meeuwen <j.van.meeuwen at ogd.nl> - 0.7.1-1
- New upstream version
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.6.5-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-reststop-0.4.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4234)
 Convenient RESTfulness for all your Camping controller needs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 timespan-2.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4258)
 A tool that performs date-based time calculations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Patch to avoid overriding $CXXFLAGS set by user during build.  - Disable
autotools dependency tracking during build for cleaner build logs    and
possible slight build speedup.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497883 - timespan: $RPM_OPT_FLAGS not used
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497883
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xcowsay-1.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4255)
 Displays a cute cow and message on your desktop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

xcowsay displays a cute cow and message on your desktop. The message can be text
or images (with xcowdream) xcowsay can run in daemon mode for sending your cow
message with DBus. Inspired by the original cowsay.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492927 - Review Request: xcowsay - xcowsay displays a cute cow and message
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492927
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From iarlyy at gmail.com  Wed May  6 23:35:57 2009
From: iarlyy at gmail.com (iarly selbir | ski0s)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:35:57 -0300
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0905060858i57e31d06ladac874ba69f7f5d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <4A01AACA.6060208@tmr.com>
	<1241624881.2773.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A01B275.5060902@tmr.com>
	<5256d0b0905060858i57e31d06ladac874ba69f7f5d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <81481f630905061635k4c940f0kb2b80772acf92dc4@mail.gmail.com>

In my Xorg.log I found it about mouse

(II) Synaptics touchpad driver version 1.1.0
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/event6"
(II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: x-axis range 1472 - 5472
(II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: y-axis range 1408 - 4448
(II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: pressure range 0 - 255
(II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: finger width range 0 - 0
(II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: buttons: left right middle
(--) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad touchpad found
(**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: always reports core events
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
(type: TOUCHPAD)
(**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
(**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) filter chain progression: 2.00
(**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) filter stage 0: 20.00 ms
(**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) set acceleration profile 0
(--) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad touchpad found






Regards,

- -
iarly selbir | ski0s

:wq!


On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>wrote:

> >>>> System->Preferences->Mouse->Touchpad->Enable mouse clicks with
> touchpad
> >>>>
> >>> Is this something that just became available this morning? I see
> there's
> >>> a new xorg-synaptics driver, new gdm stuff, and new control-center
> stuff,
> >>> but my old (12 hours ago) system stops at "Mouse" and brings up a box
> with
> >>> no reference to "Touchpad" nor is there a menu at the "Mouse" level as
> you
> >>> seem to imply.
> >>>
> >>> Clarification?
> >>
> >> The tab only shows up if there is an X input device that looks like a
> >> touchpad. So your X maybe doesn't see the touchpad ?
> >>
> > I guess it must be treating it as a mouse (it does move the cursor or I
> > would have filed a bug long ago. Maybe I need to do a total reinstall,
> > although that is a PITA.
>
> What does it say its detected as in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>
> Peter
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/b542ffaa/attachment.htm>

From iarlyy at gmail.com  Wed May  6 23:42:34 2009
From: iarlyy at gmail.com (iarly selbir | ski0s)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:42:34 -0300
Subject: F11 Preview - issues
In-Reply-To: <571dcba60905061611o1774d0cax75983e1a3c132acc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81481f630905021123i1964e1cbi8f2215ce47ade478@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502185026.GB1639@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<81481f630905021155s4e26ba7cx458b56ed4ba07c79@mail.gmail.com>
	<23349538.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<81481f630905021247qe4b4b53qb3c19603d9ae0d0d@mail.gmail.com>
	<81481f630905041939p543f5a10lb831290a9d0980ae@mail.gmail.com>
	<571dcba60905061611o1774d0cax75983e1a3c132acc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <81481f630905061642h1cc0d222yf7ac6d7bd5af4e3f@mail.gmail.com>

I don't understand because it was removed from f11, in my f10 box works
perfectly, in lsusb the modem appears there same way that appears on my f10
box.


I don't know usb_modeswitch, I saw the description of the package, it
mentions 4G connections, not 3G, can it be used as well?

Regards,

- -
iarly selbir | ski0s

:wq!


On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Niels Haase <haase.niels at googlemail.com>wrote:

> 2009/5/5 iarly selbir | ski0s <iarlyy at gmail.com>:
> > I was talking about my problem with my 3G ( wireless broadband ), but I
> > don't know what component in bugzilla to file a bug about it.
>
> If I looked at your f11 fpaste link, it seems that you need the
> usb_modeswitch tool. It looks like your 3G card runs in memory stick
> mode to provide windows drivers. This will mostly blocks the broadband
> function.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Niels
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/7d83a76a/attachment.htm>

From iarlyy at gmail.com  Wed May  6 23:48:45 2009
From: iarlyy at gmail.com (iarly selbir | ski0s)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:48:45 -0300
Subject: F11 preview - Battery duration
Message-ID: <81481f630905061648r3fcb9042t7fb50b65632f3436@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not believing, my laptop has a battery of 4 cells, after I enable on
power management applet the Xtreme power save mode, my battery duration goes
from 2 hours of duratin to 14 hours... uaaaaall

it's possible?

I hadn't time to test if it is true.

has anybody similar results?

Thanks in advance.


Regards,

- -
iarly selbir | ski0s

:wq!
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/774dd409/attachment.htm>

From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Thu May  7 00:27:54 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:27:54 -0400
Subject: linux askmethod... how?
In-Reply-To: <5380B9C81BCDFD459FFCE94322F7109E151151@IXA-EX1.uk.int.amec.com>
References: <5380B9C81BCDFD459FFCE94322F7109E151151@IXA-EX1.uk.int.amec.com>
Message-ID: <20090507002754.GA48389@mail.scottro.net>

On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 10:30:03PM +0100, Cannon, Andrew C wrote:
> 
> Okay, this is a very simple question, with probably a very simple answer, but I
> cannot for the life of me work out how to put in the alternative method 'linux
> askmethod' at the grub screen.


Where it says hit the tab key for options (or something like that,
anyway, it says hit the tab key) just type askmethod (without the word
linux) at the end of the kernel line.  (Which is where you'll be put
after hitting said tab key.)

This holds for all options, such as selinux=whatever, reiserfs (hrrm, is
that still necessary?), etc. 

-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Xander: Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with dead boy on this one. 
Angel: Could you not call me that? 



From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Thu May  7 00:50:02 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 06:20:02 +0530
Subject: F11 preview - Battery duration
In-Reply-To: <81481f630905061648r3fcb9042t7fb50b65632f3436@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81481f630905061648r3fcb9042t7fb50b65632f3436@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <89bdee5a0905061750g3556f819pfc41fe8a52cb5526@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:18 AM, iarly selbir | ski0s <iarlyy at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not believing, my laptop has a battery of 4 cells, after I enable on
> power management applet the Xtreme power save mode, my battery duration goes
> from 2 hours of duratin to 14 hours... uaaaaall
>

The change to DeviceKit means the power applets read the battery info
incorrectly in some cases. My battery used to show negative capacity
for a while before a bug was fixed.

While recent power savings in F11 do seem to make up some gains, 2
hours to 14 hours on a 4 cell battery is simply unbelievable.

The only way to confirm is to ofcourse let your laptop run till it
powers off without battery. Do save your work *before* 2 hours and
file a bug if the laptop switches off anytime sooner than 14 hours ;-)

PS: If it really goes on to run for 14 hours, I would be very
interested in knowing the laptop model.

-- 
Gireesh



From tom.horsley at att.net  Thu May  7 01:20:24 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:20:24 -0400
Subject: media key behavior?
Message-ID: <20090506212024.07493a53@zooty>

I was just playing with my new keyboard, and I noticed a
strange difference between fedora 10 and fedora 11:

On fedora 10, the mute and volume keys seem to briefly
pop up a little volume control to reflect the status.
(As far as I know, I did nothing to configure this
to happen and I actually wish it wouldn't :-).

On fedora 11, the same keys do nothing.

Anyone know what is going on here (and who is arranging
to hook up those volume keys to something)? Some strange
hal connection maybe?

Most of the other extra buttons (with labels like mail
and search and wot-not) show up in xev as keycodes with
no associated keysyms.

Thankfully, the Power and Sleep buttons don't seem to be
attached to anything :-).



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Thu May  7 03:24:17 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:24:17 -0700
Subject: yum question
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905062024hc7e5497qba75c408660c69af@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Seth:

Thank you so much for the idea and the info on yum-plugin-changelog.  It
works great and for exactly what I wanted.

Sincerely,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/e41ede44/attachment.htm>

From an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com  Thu May  7 03:35:30 2009
From: an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com (Allen Kistler)
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 22:35:30 -0500
Subject: Bug workflow page revised
In-Reply-To: <20090506210611.9A22E619D82@hormel.redhat.com>
References: <20090506210611.9A22E619D82@hormel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A025702.7070806@yahoo.com>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> I just got a bit inspired by a QA meeting discussion, and have made
> substantial revisions to
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow ....

So here's a question I've asked before (a couple months ago), but it 
really seems worth asking again.

What happens when QA on a MODIFIED report fails?  Shouldn't there be a 
path to send it back to ASSIGNED for rework?  I do know that RH BZ 
currently doesn't allow it.  So as a reporter, the only thing I can do 
if a proposed patch fails my retest is CLOSE the report.  Doesn't that 
workflow seem broken by design?



From tgl at redhat.com  Thu May  7 05:43:09 2009
From: tgl at redhat.com (Tom Lane)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 01:43:09 -0400
Subject: Bug workflow page revised 
In-Reply-To: <4A025702.7070806@yahoo.com> 
References: <20090506210611.9A22E619D82@hormel.redhat.com>
	<4A025702.7070806@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7712.1241674989@sss.pgh.pa.us>

Allen Kistler <an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com> writes:
> What happens when QA on a MODIFIED report fails?  Shouldn't there be a 
> path to send it back to ASSIGNED for rework?  I do know that RH BZ 
> currently doesn't allow it.

According to the status help page
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status
you push it to FAILS_QA, and then it goes back to ASSIGNED if the
breakage is bad enough to require a new round of bug investigation.

If the ON_QA state isn't meaningful for Fedora then this state machine
probably needs some adjustment for that, but it's not insane on its
own terms.

			regards, tom lane



From Andrew.Cannon at amec.com  Thu May  7 07:46:15 2009
From: Andrew.Cannon at amec.com (Cannon, Andrew C)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:46:15 +0100
Subject: Linux askmethod... How?  {SOLVED}
In-Reply-To: <20090506233519.D7A8E61A4D2@hormel.redhat.com>
References: <20090506233519.D7A8E61A4D2@hormel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <5380B9C81BCDFD459FFCE94322F7109E98A7DF@IXA-EX1.uk.int.amec.com>


Message: 3
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:10:16 -0400
From: Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: linux askmethod... how?
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
	<fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1241647816.12122.245.camel at ignacio.lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 22:30 +0100, Cannon, Andrew C wrote:
>
> Okay, this is a very simple question, with probably a very simple
> answer, but I cannot for the life of me work out how to put in the
> alternative method 'linux askmethod' at the grub screen.
>
> When I boot from the CD, I get a brief flash of the text screen, and
> then it goes to the blue screen with the four options on.  I can press
> F1 to F5, but I still can't get anywhere.  The prompt will give the
> vmlinuz bit, but when I delete that and type in linux askmethod, I
> just get put back to the blue screen.
>
> I know I've missed something, but what?

You no longer need the "linux" just the "askmethod". That is, you add
askmethod to the kernel line already in place.

--
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
Url :
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090506/47
fa3aa2/attachment.bin

-----------------

That did it.  Thanks.  The blurb when you press F1 to F5 still talks
about linux askmethod though, which is why I was so confused.  I'll see
whether there is a bug against it or not.

Andy

--
This email contains confidential information. The contents must
not be disclosed to anyone else except with the authority of the sender.
Unauthorised recipients are requested to maintain this confidentiality and
immediately advise the sender of any error or misdirection in transmission.

The following notice applies to emails originating in the UK.
E-mails sent on behalf of AMEC are sent on behalf of the relevant AMEC
company below. These are registered in England and Wales with registered
office at Booths Park, Chelford Road, Knutsford, Cheshire WA16 8QZ and
number as shown: AMEC plc 01675285, AMEC Group Limited 04612748,
AMEC Capital Projects Limited 02804109, AMEC Earth and Environmental UK
Limited 04987981, AMEC Nuclear Holdings Limited 03725076,
AMEC Nuclear M & O Limited 05664844, AMEC Nuclear UK Limited 01120437,
AMEC Nuclear International Limited 03260477, AMEC Nuclear Projects
Limited 05664962  and National Nuclear Corporation Limited 02290928
--



From haase.niels at googlemail.com  Thu May  7 09:08:31 2009
From: haase.niels at googlemail.com (Niels Haase)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:08:31 +0200
Subject: No X after upgrade to
	xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-33.20090501gitf69b34a 
	/ nouveau_dri.so missing
Message-ID: <571dcba60905070208o6301a997q3d5c0bb6cdd28fd0@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

after update today X won't start any more. The update included some X
relevant packages:
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-33.20090501gitf69b34a.fc11.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-common-1.6.1-11.fc11.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.1-11.fc11.x86_64
kernel-2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64

The problem seems to be the missing nouveau_dri.so file.

The last lines from Xorg.log:

(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed
(/usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory)
(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
(II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib64/dri/swrast_dri.so
(II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0

Backtrace:


Anyone else see this error?

PS: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499570

--
Regards,
Niels



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Thu May  7 13:43:26 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 09:43:26 -0400
Subject: BugZappers New Member SOP
Message-ID: <4A02E57E.4020304@gmail.com>

The new member SOP is up at 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/sop_new_member and a link to 
the page has been created on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/sop



TK009



From ajax at redhat.com  Thu May  7 13:46:02 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 09:46:02 -0400
Subject: Mouse choices
In-Reply-To: <1241647638.3290.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1241647638.3290.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241703962.5583.18.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 16:07 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> I am left-handed and I can not get my mouse to switch.  I personally
> believe something is broke. Please look into this problem.  It is
> probably something simple is why I can't figure out what it is. It
> started when I upgraded to F11.  Other than I can't get Vmware to turn
> off or on, F11 is running fine for me.

How are you trying to set it to left-handed?

- ajax (using a left-handed mouse on F11)
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090507/54a7b753/attachment.sig>

From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu May  7 13:55:59 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu,  7 May 2009 13:55:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090507 changes
Message-ID: <20090507135559.22B921F820E@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Thu May  7 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

DeviceKit-disks-004-2.fc11
--------------------------
* Fri May 01 2009 David Zeuthen <davidz at redhat.com> - 004-1.fc11
- Upstream release 004

* Fri May 01 2009 David Zeuthen <davidz at redhat.com> - 004-2.fc11
- Rebuild


anaconda-11.5.0.50-1.fc11
-------------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> - 11.5.0.50-1
- Use storage objects throughout the partition editing UI code (#491806,
  - Verify filesystems after the live resize (katzj)
- Verify with fsck after resizing filesystems (katzj)
- IBM improvements to linuxrc.s390 (#475350) (dcantrell)
- Write out correct hostname during LiveCD installs (#492515) (dcantrell)
- Enter in hostname entry field advances to next screen (#494135) (dcantrell)
- Check if we'll clear a partition after setting its format attr. (#499251)
  (dlehman)
- Don't pass the default clearPartType value to the device tree. (dlehman)
- Fix some logic errors in storage.partitioning.shouldClear. (dlehman)
- Forward port various iscsi fixes from 5.4 iscsi work (hdegoede)
- Avoid writing out NAME= in ifcfg files (#497485) (dcantrell)
- Retry network configuration in loader (#492009) (dcantrell)
- Make sure /boot ends up on the same disk as Apple Bootstrap (#497390).
  (clumens)
- Handle that the default bootloader entry can sometimes be None (#496618).
  (clumens)
- The PS3 bootloader allows booting from ext4 filesystems (#498539).
  (clumens)
- Support LVM PE sizes > 128MB (#497733) (cristian.ciupitu)
- Set ANACONDAVERSION on most livecd installs. (clumens)
- getDependentDevices is in devicetree, not storage (#499144). (clumens)


file-5.02-1.fc11
----------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Daniel Novotny <dnovotny at redhat.com> 5.02-1
- new upstream version; drop upstreamed patches; this fixes #497913


firstboot-1.106-1.fc11
----------------------
* Tue May 05 2009 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> 1.106-1
- Display an error message when the user doesn't supply a password (#480927).
- Lots of translation updates.


gnome-bluetooth-2.27.5-1.fc11
-----------------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 2.27.5-1
- Update to 2.27.5


gnome-disk-utility-0.3-1.fc11
-----------------------------
* Fri May 01 2009 David Zeuthen <davidz at redhat.com> - 0.3-1.fc11
- Upstream release 0.3


gnome-power-manager-2.26.1-3.fc11
---------------------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 2.26.1-3
- Backport a patch from upstream to fix backlight DPMS.
- Fixes #498041


gnote-0.3.1-1.fc11
------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.1-1
- new upstream release. Fixes rhbz #498739. Fix #499227

* Fri May 01 2009 Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.0-1
- new upstream release. Includes applet and more plugins.


gvfs-1.2.2-6.fc11
-----------------
* Wed May 06 2009 David Zeuthen <davidz at redhat.com> - 1.2.2-5
- Don't show drives that are supposed to be hidden (#498649)
- Only automount if media or drive was just inserted - this fixes
  a problem with spurious automounts when partitioning/formatting

* Wed May 06 2009 David Zeuthen <davidz at redhat.com> - 1.2.2-6
- Rebuild


libatasmart-0.12-3.fc11
-----------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Lennart Poettering <lpoetter at redhat.com> 0.12-3
- Update handling of one ST drive, add another quirk for a weird FUJITSU drive (rhbz 498284)


libvirt-0.6.2-6.fc11
--------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 0.6.2-5.fc11
- Fix handling of <hostdev managed='yes'> (bug #499386)

* Wed May 06 2009 Cole Robinson <crobinso at redhat.com> - 0.6.2-6.fc11
- Refresh qemu caps when getCapabilities is called (bug #460649)


policycoreutils-2.0.62-12.2.fc11
--------------------------------
* Tue May 05 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.62-12.2
- Fix fixfiles to handle btrfs

* Fri Apr 24 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.62-12.1
- Fix audit2allow -a to read /var/log/messages

* Thu Apr 16 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.62-12
- Add semanage module support


pygobject2-2.16.1-4.fc11
------------------------
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 2.16.1-4.fc11
- Add patch for GNOME bug #566571 (classic vs new-style inheritance crash).


python-virtinst-0.400.3-8.fc11
------------------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Cole Robinson <crobinso at redhat.com> - 0.400.3-8.fc11
- Fix PCI assignment (bz 499267)


seamonkey-1.1.15-4.fc11
-----------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Martin Stransky <stransky at redhat.com> 1.1.15-4
- build with -fno-strict-aliasing (#468415)


smart-1.2-64.fc11
-----------------
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net> - 1.2-64
- Fix premature returns in sha256 patch.

* Wed Apr 15 2009 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net> - 1.2-62
- Fix sha256 and mdclean patches.

* Sun Mar 22 2009 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net> - 1.2-60
- Update to 1.2.


xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-4.fc11
-------------------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 <krh at madara.bos.redhat.com> - 2.7.0-4
- Pull in fixes from the 2.7 branch.


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 17









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From wwoods at redhat.com  Thu May  7 14:29:31 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:29:31 -0400
Subject: No X after upgrade to
 xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-33.20090501gitf69b34a / nouveau_dri.so missing
In-Reply-To: <571dcba60905070208o6301a997q3d5c0bb6cdd28fd0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <571dcba60905070208o6301a997q3d5c0bb6cdd28fd0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241706571.3234.17.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 11:08 +0200, Niels Haase wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> after update today X won't start any more. The update included some X
> relevant packages:
> xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-33.20090501gitf69b34a.fc11.x86_64
> xorg-x11-server-common-1.6.1-11.fc11.x86_64
> xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.1-11.fc11.x86_64
> kernel-2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64
> 
> The problem seems to be the missing nouveau_dri.so file.
> 
> The last lines from Xorg.log:
> 
> (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed
> (/usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No
> such file or directory)
> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
> (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib64/dri/swrast_dri.so
> (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0

No, that's a red herring - that message always appears, because we don't
ship a DRI library for nouveau yet. Here's the same messages in my
Xorg.0.log:

(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed
(/usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or directory)
(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering

And yet here I am using evolution to type this mail.

Have you tried checking syslog, or booting with 'enforcing=0'?

-w



From johannbg at hi.is  Thu May  7 14:32:06 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:32:06 +0000
Subject: No X after upgrade to
 xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-33.20090501gitf69b34a
 / nouveau_dri.so missing
In-Reply-To: <1241706571.3234.17.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
References: <571dcba60905070208o6301a997q3d5c0bb6cdd28fd0@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241706571.3234.17.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A02F0E6.6040503@hi.is>

Will Woods wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 11:08 +0200, Niels Haase wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> after update today X won't start any more. The update included some X
>> relevant packages:
>> xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-33.20090501gitf69b34a.fc11.x86_64
>> xorg-x11-server-common-1.6.1-11.fc11.x86_64
>> xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.1-11.fc11.x86_64
>> kernel-2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64
>>
>> The problem seems to be the missing nouveau_dri.so file.
>>
>> The last lines from Xorg.log:
>>
>> (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed
>> (/usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No
>> such file or directory)
>> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
>> (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib64/dri/swrast_dri.so
>> (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0
>>     
>
> No, that's a red herring - that message always appears, because we don't
> ship a DRI library for nouveau yet. Here's the same messages in my
> Xorg.0.log:
>
> (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed
> (/usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such
> file or directory)
> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
>
> And yet here I am using evolution to type this mail.
>
> Have you tried checking syslog, or booting with 'enforcing=0'?
>
> -w
>
>   
This was due to changes in exa api and is fixed in -34 version of the 
nouvau  driver

JBG
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: johannbg.vcf
Type: text/x-vcard
Size: 356 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090507/aeda70f2/attachment.vcf>

From ajax at redhat.com  Thu May  7 14:53:15 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:53:15 -0400
Subject: No X after upgrade to
 xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-33.20090501gitf69b34a / nouveau_dri.so missing
In-Reply-To: <1241706571.3234.17.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
References: <571dcba60905070208o6301a997q3d5c0bb6cdd28fd0@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241706571.3234.17.camel@metroid.usersys.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1241707995.5583.44.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 10:29 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 11:08 +0200, Niels Haase wrote:
> > (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed
> > (/usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No
> > such file or directory)
> > (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
> > (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib64/dri/swrast_dri.so
> > (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0
> 
> No, that's a red herring - that message always appears, because we don't
> ship a DRI library for nouveau yet.

Next build of xorg-x11-server has that message degraded to (II) for
nouveau so people don't freak out about it.

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090507/c1c4c2f2/attachment.sig>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May  7 15:33:16 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:33:16 -0700
Subject: media key behavior?
In-Reply-To: <20090506212024.07493a53@zooty>
References: <20090506212024.07493a53@zooty>
Message-ID: <1241710396.2923.483.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 21:20 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I was just playing with my new keyboard, and I noticed a
> strange difference between fedora 10 and fedora 11:
> 
> On fedora 10, the mute and volume keys seem to briefly
> pop up a little volume control to reflect the status.
> (As far as I know, I did nothing to configure this
> to happen and I actually wish it wouldn't :-).
> 
> On fedora 11, the same keys do nothing.
> 
> Anyone know what is going on here (and who is arranging
> to hook up those volume keys to something)? Some strange
> hal connection maybe?
> 
> Most of the other extra buttons (with labels like mail
> and search and wot-not) show up in xev as keycodes with
> no associated keysyms.
> 
> Thankfully, the Power and Sleep buttons don't seem to be
> attached to anything :-).

Thinkpad?

Could be related to this, I guess:

http://www.advogato.org/person/mjg59/diary.html?start=205
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May  7 15:39:16 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:39:16 -0700
Subject: Bug workflow page revised
In-Reply-To: <7712.1241674989@sss.pgh.pa.us>
References: <20090506210611.9A22E619D82@hormel.redhat.com>
	<4A025702.7070806@yahoo.com>  <7712.1241674989@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Message-ID: <1241710756.2923.488.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 01:43 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Allen Kistler <an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com> writes:
> > What happens when QA on a MODIFIED report fails?  Shouldn't there be a 
> > path to send it back to ASSIGNED for rework?  I do know that RH BZ 
> > currently doesn't allow it.
> 
> According to the status help page
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status

Which, as I mentioned, is for RHEL, where there are real paid people
plugged into this process...

> you push it to FAILS_QA, and then it goes back to ASSIGNED if the
> breakage is bad enough to require a new round of bug investigation.

...this is the bit where the magic happens. "It goes back" seems to
equal "maintainer sets it back".

> If the ON_QA state isn't meaningful for Fedora then this state machine
> probably needs some adjustment for that, but it's not insane on its
> own terms.

The ON_QA / FAILS_QA loop doesn't make too much sense for Fedora as
there is no paid QA group wired into this loop. 'QA' is the reporter. 

I think it should just be a simple setup as the reporter describes;
reporters should be allowed to set bugs back to ASSIGNED from MODIFIED.

At present I'd say you should just post a comment to say the fix doesn't
work for you. It's then the maintainer's responsibility to change back
to ASSIGNED and fix the fix.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May  7 15:42:51 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:42:51 -0700
Subject: Bug workflow page revised
In-Reply-To: <1241710756.2923.488.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <20090506210611.9A22E619D82@hormel.redhat.com>
	<4A025702.7070806@yahoo.com>  <7712.1241674989@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241710756.2923.488.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1241710971.2923.490.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:39 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> > If the ON_QA state isn't meaningful for Fedora then this state machine
> > probably needs some adjustment for that, but it's not insane on its
> > own terms.
> 
> The ON_QA / FAILS_QA loop doesn't make too much sense for Fedora as
> there is no paid QA group wired into this loop. 'QA' is the reporter. 
> 
> I think it should just be a simple setup as the reporter describes;
> reporters should be allowed to set bugs back to ASSIGNED from MODIFIED.

Ug, sorry - I'm thinking too much about Rawhide here. The ON_QA loop is
of course used for Fedora in stable release updates.

I think the question comes down to "should the onus / ability to return
a bug to ASSIGNED when it fails testing be on the reporter or maintainer
or both". Thoughts?
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From adrin.jalali at gmail.com  Thu May  7 16:00:18 2009
From: adrin.jalali at gmail.com (Adrin Jalali)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:30:18 +0430
Subject: gnome run application autocomplete problem.
Message-ID: <8049a2b40905070900u5e18eb91r81d7023a953e38d9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, running F11 when I want to run an application using Alt+F2 dialog, if
the dialog understands that only one application beginning with the typed
characters exists, it completes it and you should continue character after
that name, for example if I decide to run gnome-terminal, I type
gnome-terminal and I see that the typed word is: gnome-terminalnal (this
happens only if I type fast)

Best,
Adrin.



# rpm -qa | grep gnome
libgnomeprintui22-2.18.4-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-libegg-2.25.3-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-panel-2.26.1-2.fc11.x86_64
gnome-mag-0.15.6-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-bonobo-2.26.1-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-media-libs-2.26.0-6.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-gtksourceview-2.26.0-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-terminal-2.26.1-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-session-xsession-2.26.1-1.fc11.x86_64
libgail-gnome-1.20.1-2.fc11.x86_64
gnome-disk-utility-libs-0.3-0.5.20090415git.fc11.x86_64
gnome-applet-netspeed-0.15.2-2.fc11.x86_64
libgnomecups-0.2.3-5.fc11.x86_64
gnome-packagekit-2.27.2-0.2.20090414git.fc11.x86_64
gnome-applet-jalali-calendar-1.6.7-1.fc11.noarch
gnome-user-docs-2.26.1-1.fc11.noarch
gnome-speech-0.4.25-2.fc11.x86_64
gnome-backgrounds-2.24.1-1.fc11.noarch
gnome-python2-canvas-2.26.1-1.fc11.x86_64
libgnomeui-2.24.1-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-mount-0.8-5.fc11.x86_64
gnome-pilot-2.0.17-2.fc11.x86_64
gnome-sharp-2.24.0-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-desktop-2.26.0-3.fc11.x86_64
libopenraw-gnome-0.0.5-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.25.3-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-menus-2.26.1-1.fc11.x86_64
compiz-fusion-gnome-0.7.8-8.fc11.x86_64
gnome-keyring-pam-2.26.1-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-applets-2.26.1-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-gnomeprint-2.26.0-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-gtkspell-2.25.3-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-desktop-2.26.1-4.fc11.x86_64
gnome-screensaver-2.26.1-2.fc11.x86_64
gnome-panel-libs-2.26.1-2.fc11.x86_64
gnome-icon-theme-2.26.0-2.fc11.noarch
compiz-gnome-0.7.8-18.fc11.x86_64
libgnomekbd-2.26.0-1.fc11.x86_64
libgnomecanvas-2.26.0-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-themes-2.26.1-1.fc11.noarch
gnome-power-manager-2.26.1-2.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-gnomekeyring-2.26.0-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-desktop-sharp-2.26.0-1.fc11.x86_64
fedora-gnome-theme-8.0.0-9.fc11.noarch
gnome-disk-utility-0.3-0.5.20090415git.fc11.x86_64
gnome-applet-sensors-2.2.1-2.fc11.x86_64
gnome-doc-utils-stylesheets-0.16.1-1.fc11.noarch
libgnome-2.26.0-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-gnome-2.26.1-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-session-2.26.1-1.fc11.x86_64
NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.1-3.git20090414.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-libwnck-2.26.0-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-gnomevfs-2.26.1-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-utils-2.26.0-1.fc11.x86_64
libgnomeprint22-2.18.6-1.fc11.x86_64
PolicyKit-gnome-libs-0.9.2-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-gconf-2.26.1-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-bluetooth-libs-2.27.4-4.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-applet-2.26.0-3.fc11.x86_64
PolicyKit-gnome-0.9.2-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-extras-2.25.3-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-vfs2-2.24.1-2.fc11.x86_64
gnome-user-share-2.26.0-2.fc11.x86_64
gnome-bluetooth-2.27.4-4.fc11.x86_64
gnome-games-help-2.26.1-2.fc11.noarch
gnome-sharp-devel-2.24.0-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-media-2.26.0-6.fc11.x86_64
gnome-system-monitor-2.26.1-2.fc11.x86_64
gnome-python2-2.26.1-1.fc11.x86_64
gnome-mime-data-2.18.0-4.fc11.noarch
gnome-disk-utility-ui-libs-0.3-0.5.20090415git.fc11.x86_64
gnome-games-2.26.1-2.fc11.x86_64
gnome-keyring-2.26.1-1.fc11.x86_64
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090507/836acd45/attachment.htm>

From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Thu May  7 16:03:24 2009
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike Cloaked)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:03:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Mouse choices
In-Reply-To: <1241703962.5583.18.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1241647638.3290.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241703962.5583.18.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <23429579.post@talk.nabble.com>




Adam Jackson-3 wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 16:07 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
>> I am left-handed and I can not get my mouse to switch.  I personally
>> believe something is broke. Please look into this problem.  It is
>> probably something simple is why I can't figure out what it is. It
>> started when I upgraded to F11.  Other than I can't get Vmware to turn
>> off or on, F11 is running fine for me.
> 
> How are you trying to set it to left-handed?
> 
> - ajax (using a left-handed mouse on F11)
> 
> 

Presumably for F11 it is the same as for F10 where you go to
System->Preferences->Hardware->Mouse and select it.

However in a laptop with a touchpad, once you do switch to left handed this
way, how does the touchpad behave? - do you get tap to click working
correctly for the mousepad in F11 when switched to left-handed? Do you get
the left and right buttons switched over correctly for the touchpad also?

This has been an issue for F10 for someone whose laptop I maintain.

Also what is the equivalent for KDE?

Since I will be going from F10 to F11 after release I am interested in the
answers to these questions.
-- 
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Mouse-choices-tp23416517p23429579.html
Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May  7 16:08:42 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 09:08:42 -0700
Subject: Bugzappers: requests from maintainers for special treatment
In-Reply-To: <gt85q7$8ce$6@ger.gmane.org>
References: <1240437610.14173.741.camel@adam.local.net>
	<gt85q7$8ce$6@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1241712522.2923.495.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 02:08 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Hi, guys. Just a general issue mail for Bugzappers: I've recently been
> > talking to Seth Vidal, who wants special treatment for bugs in
> > components he maintains (yum and createrepo): he's happy for them to be
> > triaged according to the usual process, but he doesn't want the bugs
> > changed from NEW to ASSIGNED.
> 
> Does he have a strong reason not to just use ON_DEV as "really
> assigned" ;-) ? (That's working well for us in KDE SIG.)

Just to follow up on this: Seth says -

<adamw> skvidal: kevin kofler had a suggestion for your bugzilla situation: 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-April/msg01671.html
<skvidal> adamw: um okay
<skvidal> adamw: since the 'triaging' has, in the past, not really helped
with most yum bugs - I'm disinclined to change my habits in order to help
the triagers
 adamw: so, option2: if it is possible how about yum and createrepo
(and yum-utils) just opts out of being triaged, at all.
<adamw> that can be done too. i don't have a problem with your option 1
either, just promised kevin i'd send that along to you.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From tom.horsley at att.net  Thu May  7 17:01:17 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:01:17 -0400
Subject: media key behavior?
In-Reply-To: <1241710396.2923.483.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <20090506212024.07493a53@zooty>
	<1241710396.2923.483.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20090507130117.242615a7@tomh>

On Thu, 07 May 2009 08:33:16 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:

> Thinkpad?

I don't think so. I finally tracked down the f10 behavior to
key bindings in gnome-settings-daemon (which I turned off once
I found em :-), but there seems to be something weirdly random
with the keymap settings. In f10 some of the keys showed up
in xev with keysyms (like XF86AudioMute), others were just plain
keycodes with no associated keysym, and not only do a different
set of keys have keysyms in f11, but the same keyboard in
a different f10 box also shows different keysyms.

Is the keymap something that is remembered permanently from
install time or something? (Because all of these systems probably
had different keyboards when they were installed).

Anyway, I provided /etc/X11/Xmodmap entries for all the keycodes
and they all show up with the appropriate keysym now.



From tom.horsley at att.net  Thu May  7 17:04:16 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:04:16 -0400
Subject: gnome run application autocomplete problem.
In-Reply-To: <8049a2b40905070900u5e18eb91r81d7023a953e38d9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8049a2b40905070900u5e18eb91r81d7023a953e38d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090507130416.01f91582@tomh>

On Thu, 7 May 2009 20:30:18 +0430
Adrin Jalali wrote:

> I type
> gnome-terminal and I see that the typed word is: gnome-terminalnal

Yep, it is a grossly incompetent implementation (like most things
gnome these days). I think I remember finding a gconf-editor setting
to turn off autocompletion to make it much less irritating.



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Thu May  7 17:11:01 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:11:01 -0600
Subject: Mouse choices
In-Reply-To: <23429579.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <1241647638.3290.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241703962.5583.18.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<23429579.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1241716261.3337.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 09:03 -0700, Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> Adam Jackson-3 wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 16:07 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> >> I am left-handed and I can not get my mouse to switch.  I personally
> >> believe something is broke. Please look into this problem.  It is
> >> probably something simple is why I can't figure out what it is. It
> >> started when I upgraded to F11.  Other than I can't get Vmware to turn
> >> off or on, F11 is running fine for me.
> > 
> > How are you trying to set it to left-handed?
> > 
> > - ajax (using a left-handed mouse on F11)
> > 
> > 
> 
> Presumably for F11 it is the same as for F10 where you go to
> System->Preferences->Hardware->Mouse and select it.
> 
> However in a laptop with a touchpad, once you do switch to left handed this
> way, how does the touchpad behave? - do you get tap to click working
> correctly for the mousepad in F11 when switched to left-handed? Do you get
> the left and right buttons switched over correctly for the touchpad also?
> 
> This has been an issue for F10 for someone whose laptop I maintain.
> 
> Also what is the equivalent for KDE?
> 
> Since I will be going from F10 to F11 after release I am interested in the
> answers to these questions.
> -- 
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Mouse-choices-tp23416517p23429579.html
> Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> I am not using a laptop.  This is on my desktop.


-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May  7 17:29:53 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:29:53 -0700
Subject: media key behavior?
In-Reply-To: <20090507130117.242615a7@tomh>
References: <20090506212024.07493a53@zooty>
	<1241710396.2923.483.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090507130117.242615a7@tomh>
Message-ID: <1241717393.2923.497.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 13:01 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Thu, 07 May 2009 08:33:16 -0700
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > Thinkpad?
> 
> I don't think so. I finally tracked down the f10 behavior to
> key bindings in gnome-settings-daemon (which I turned off once
> I found em :-), but there seems to be something weirdly random
> with the keymap settings. In f10 some of the keys showed up
> in xev with keysyms (like XF86AudioMute), others were just plain
> keycodes with no associated keysym, and not only do a different
> set of keys have keysyms in f11, but the same keyboard in
> a different f10 box also shows different keysyms.
> 
> Is the keymap something that is remembered permanently from
> install time or something? (Because all of these systems probably
> had different keyboards when they were installed).

AFAIK it shouldn't be, no, it gets auto-detected...HAL has quirks for
some laptop keyboards, otherwise it's in some other component, I forget
which.

AIUI all 'multimedia' keys should pass the appropriate XF86* keysym when
pushed, if not, it's a bug you should file on something. See above. :)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Thu May  7 17:46:16 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:46:16 -0400
Subject: BugZappers New Member SOP
In-Reply-To: <4A02E57E.4020304@gmail.com>
References: <4A02E57E.4020304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241718376.23133.26.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 09:43 -0400, TK009 wrote:
> The new member SOP is up at 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/sop_new_member and a link to 
> the page has been created on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/sop

If this is ready for prime time, [[BugZappers/sop]] should be linked
from the main BugZappers page, and [[BugZappers/sop_new_member]] from
[[BugZappers/Joining]]

If you ask me, BugZappers/sop_new_member is incredibly formal.  It takes
6 separate sections to get around to saying what could be said in a
sentence or two.  With all that the instructions are rather vague - what
does "introduction" mean if it doesn't involve personal details?  Links
to examples of previous intros would be instructive.

-B.



From an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com  Thu May  7 17:48:28 2009
From: an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com (Allen Kistler)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:48:28 -0500
Subject: Bug workflow page revised
In-Reply-To: <20090507160023.0CC4D619320@hormel.redhat.com>
References: <20090507160023.0CC4D619320@hormel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A031EEC.50902@yahoo.com>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:39 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> If the ON_QA state isn't meaningful for Fedora then this state machine
>>> probably needs some adjustment for that, but it's not insane on its
>>> own terms.
>> 
>> The ON_QA / FAILS_QA loop doesn't make too much sense for Fedora as
>> there is no paid QA group wired into this loop. 'QA' is the reporter. 
>> 
>> I think it should just be a simple setup as the reporter describes;
>> reporters should be allowed to set bugs back to ASSIGNED from MODIFIED.
> 
> Ug, sorry - I'm thinking too much about Rawhide here. The ON_QA loop is
> of course used for Fedora in stable release updates.
> 
> I think the question comes down to "should the onus / ability to return
> a bug to ASSIGNED when it fails testing be on the reporter or maintainer
> or both". Thoughts?


I know you had ON_QA in the flow diagram in the original post, so if 
you're adding it, adjust the following comments as appropriate.

My thoughts are to allow both maintainers and reporters to send a 
MODIFIED report back to ASSIGNED.

First, some maintainers might only check on reports in the ASSIGNED 
state.  The only way they know to keep working on a bug is if someone 
moves the report back to ASSIGNED for them.  It's anti-productive to 
prevent reporters from doing this.  Posting comments doesn't work for 
reasons that may include assignees setting email options to ignore comments.

Second, some reporters seem to figure that all they have to do is report 
bugs.  They never track or follow-up on even their own reports.  It's 
anti-productive to exclude maintainers from the management of the 
reports filed against their own components.



From tom.horsley at att.net  Thu May  7 18:19:12 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:19:12 -0400
Subject: media key behavior?
In-Reply-To: <1241717393.2923.497.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <20090506212024.07493a53@zooty>
	<1241710396.2923.483.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090507130117.242615a7@tomh>
	<1241717393.2923.497.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20090507141912.6852e107@tomh>

On Thu, 07 May 2009 10:29:53 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:

> AFAIK it shouldn't be, no, it gets auto-detected...HAL has quirks for
> some laptop keyboards, otherwise it's in some other component, I forget
> which.

It is definitely getting confusing. I notice that "lsusb" doesn't
even show the keyboard (at least on one of the systems), so it is
possible the bios may be pretending it is a PS/2 keyboard.

Another system has a keyboard definition in the xorg.conf file
which says it was generated by rhpxl, so that one may indeed
have xorg overriding any autodetected keyboard.

Its too confusing to even decide if there is a bug :-).



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Thu May  7 18:24:42 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:24:42 -0400
Subject: BugZappers New Member SOP
In-Reply-To: <1241718376.23133.26.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <4A02E57E.4020304@gmail.com>
	<1241718376.23133.26.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A03276A.9030504@gmail.com>

Christopher Beland wrote:
>
> If this is ready for prime time, [[BugZappers/sop]] should be linked
> from the main BugZappers page, and [[BugZappers/sop_new_member]] from
> [[BugZappers/Joining]]
>   
Do you want to create the needed links or should I?

> If you ask me, BugZappers/sop_new_member is incredibly formal.
It is an SOP not a penpal, however,  Adam also felt it needed a 
friendlier tone. I am not an overly friendly type, so if you or Adam 
want to fix that up, thank you in advance.
>   It takes
> 6 separate sections to get around to saying what could be said in a
> sentence or two.  With all that the instructions are rather vague - what
> does "introduction" mean if it doesn't involve personal details?
It means "TK009 - join bugzappers" is enough personal information, even 
if not up to everyone's personal introduction standards.

We agreed in the meetings to the requirement for the email from new 
members. We have no requirement regarding the content of that email, at 
least not that I recall. We agreed on vague I thought.
>   Links
> to examples of previous intros would be instructive.
>   
I don't think examples are necessary.
> -B.
>
>   
Edward




From caf at omen.com  Thu May  7 18:45:58 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:45:58 -0700
Subject: Rawhide Install Broken.
Message-ID: <4A032C66.9060308@omen.com>

Today's Rawhide pxeboot install wedges with a black screen
after the loaded kernel starts and one would expect to see
a X screen.  This is with Intel Core Duo Gigabyte ga-ep45-ud3p
and Nvidia 9600GT.

I tried the boot.iso disk route and got the same result.

Boot.iso and text install got an unhandled exception when I
selected custom disk layout.

Boot.iso with basic vga didn't work either.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu May  7 18:52:24 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:52:24 -0400
Subject: Rawhide Install Broken.
In-Reply-To: <4A032C66.9060308@omen.com>
References: <4A032C66.9060308@omen.com>
Message-ID: <1241722344.2622.20.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 11:45 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> Today's Rawhide pxeboot install wedges with a black screen
> after the loaded kernel starts and one would expect to see
> a X screen.  This is with Intel Core Duo Gigabyte ga-ep45-ud3p
> and Nvidia 9600GT.
> 
> I tried the boot.iso disk route and got the same result.
> 
> Boot.iso and text install got an unhandled exception when I
> selected custom disk layout.

Can you look into getting the details recorded in bugzilla for this
issue?

> Boot.iso with basic vga didn't work either.

I suspect this is related to other threads discussing the nouveau
breakage today (see
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg00332.html)
which appears to be on track for resolution tomorrow
(http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=5871).

Thanks,
James


-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090507/c9e9df80/attachment.sig>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May  7 19:13:09 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:13:09 -0700
Subject: BugZappers New Member SOP
In-Reply-To: <4A03276A.9030504@gmail.com>
References: <4A02E57E.4020304@gmail.com>
	<1241718376.23133.26.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4A03276A.9030504@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241723589.2923.501.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:24 -0400, TK009 wrote:
> Christopher Beland wrote:
> >
> > If this is ready for prime time, [[BugZappers/sop]] should be linked
> > from the main BugZappers page, and [[BugZappers/sop_new_member]] from
> > [[BugZappers/Joining]]
> >   
> Do you want to create the needed links or should I?
> 
> > If you ask me, BugZappers/sop_new_member is incredibly formal.
> It is an SOP not a penpal, however,  Adam also felt it needed a 
> friendlier tone. I am not an overly friendly type, so if you or Adam 
> want to fix that up, thank you in advance.
> >   It takes
> > 6 separate sections to get around to saying what could be said in a
> > sentence or two.  With all that the instructions are rather vague - what
> > does "introduction" mean if it doesn't involve personal details?
> It means "TK009 - join bugzappers" is enough personal information, even 
> if not up to everyone's personal introduction standards.
> 
> We agreed in the meetings to the requirement for the email from new 
> members. We have no requirement regarding the content of that email, at 
> least not that I recall. We agreed on vague I thought.
> >   Links
> > to examples of previous intros would be instructive.
> >   
> I don't think examples are necessary.

It is important to note that we won't necessarily be directing new users
to the SOP from the 'suck them in process', but just writing something
on the Join page with a subtle link to the SOP somewhere. The SOP is the
'document of official record', not necessarily the Howto. But it could
be a bit friendlier, just so it doesn't put off people who happen to
come across it. I'll see if I can tweak it a bit.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Thu May  7 19:29:00 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:29:00 -0400
Subject: Rawhide Install Broken.
In-Reply-To: <1241722344.2622.20.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <4A032C66.9060308@omen.com>
	<1241722344.2622.20.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A03367C.1030001@cox.net>

On 05/07/2009 02:52 PM, James Laska wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 11:45 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
>> Today's Rawhide pxeboot install wedges with a black screen
>> after the loaded kernel starts and one would expect to see
>> a X screen.  This is with Intel Core Duo Gigabyte ga-ep45-ud3p
>> and Nvidia 9600GT.
>>
>> I tried the boot.iso disk route and got the same result.
>>
>> Boot.iso and text install got an unhandled exception when I
>> selected custom disk layout.
>
> Can you look into getting the details recorded in bugzilla for this
> issue?
>
>> Boot.iso with basic vga didn't work either.
>
> I suspect this is related to other threads discussing the nouveau
> breakage today (see
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg00332.html)
> which appears to be on track for resolution tomorrow
> (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=5871).
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
>
>

bz 499662



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu May  7 19:35:36 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 19:35:36 +0000
Subject: Rawhide Install Broken.
In-Reply-To: <4A03367C.1030001@cox.net>
References: <4A032C66.9060308@omen.com>
	<1241722344.2622.20.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<4A03367C.1030001@cox.net>
Message-ID: <1241724936.2622.21.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:29 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 05/07/2009 02:52 PM, James Laska wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 11:45 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> >> Today's Rawhide pxeboot install wedges with a black screen
> >> after the loaded kernel starts and one would expect to see
> >> a X screen.  This is with Intel Core Duo Gigabyte ga-ep45-ud3p
> >> and Nvidia 9600GT.
> >>
> >> I tried the boot.iso disk route and got the same result.
> >>
> >> Boot.iso and text install got an unhandled exception when I
> >> selected custom disk layout.
> >
> > Can you look into getting the details recorded in bugzilla for this
> > issue?
> >
> >> Boot.iso with basic vga didn't work either.
> >
> > I suspect this is related to other threads discussing the nouveau
> > breakage today (see
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg00332.html)
> > which appears to be on track for resolution tomorrow
> > (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=5871).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James
> >
> >
> >
> 
> bz 499662

Thanks Clyde.  Looks like I'm hitting that same issue as well.

-James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090507/2ec1f649/attachment.sig>

From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Thu May  7 20:00:01 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 16:00:01 -0400
Subject: BugZappers New Member SOP
In-Reply-To: <1241723589.2923.501.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4A02E57E.4020304@gmail.com>	<1241718376.23133.26.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<4A03276A.9030504@gmail.com>
	<1241723589.2923.501.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A033DC1.9080504@gmail.com>

Adam Williamson wrote:
>  I'll see if I can tweak it a bit.
>   
Thanks



From lsatenstein at yahoo.com  Fri May  8 01:24:54 2009
From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Mr Leslie Satenstein)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 18:24:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Message-ID: <1608990582.31707.1241745894235.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn08.prod>

LinkedIn
------------



   
Fedora-Test_list,

I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- Maria Mercedes Arechavaleta

Learn more:
https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/578674857/sR2guz6v/

------------------------------------------

What is LinkedIn and why should you join?
http://learn.linkedin.com/what-is-linkedin


 
------
(c) 2009, LinkedIn Corporation

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090507/3d3369a7/attachment.htm>

From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Fri May  8 08:13:36 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 16:13:36 +0800
Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <1608990582.31707.1241745894235.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn08.prod>
References: <1608990582.31707.1241745894235.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn08.prod>
Message-ID: <4A03E9B0.6000805@herakles.homelinux.org>

Mr Leslie Satenstein wrote:
> LinkedIn
> ------------
> 
> 
> 
>    
> Fedora-Test_list,
> 
> I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

<expletives deleted> off.


-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From affix at ihack.co.uk  Fri May  8 08:34:14 2009
From: affix at ihack.co.uk (Affix)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:34:14 +0100
Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <4A03E9B0.6000805@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <1608990582.31707.1241745894235.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn08.prod>
	<4A03E9B0.6000805@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <b5b999040905080134n36e2cf3cw8437e7e99f13db43@mail.gmail.com>

There must be a way we can remove the fedora emails from services like this

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:13 AM, John Summerfield <
debian at herakles.homelinux.org> wrote:

> Mr Leslie Satenstein wrote:
>
>> LinkedIn
>> ------------
>>
>>
>>
>>   Fedora-Test_list,
>>
>> I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
>>
>
> <expletives deleted> off.
>
>
> --
>
> Cheers
> John
>
> -- spambait
> 1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
> -- Advice
> http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html<http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
> You cannot reply off-list:-)
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Keiran Smith
- Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - <affix at fedoraproject.org>
- Free Software Foundation Associate - <keiran.smith at member.fsf.org>
- http://keiran-smith.net
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090508/bb5cc70b/attachment.htm>

From nikolay at vladimiroff.com  Fri May  8 08:55:02 2009
From: nikolay at vladimiroff.com (Nikolay Vladimirov)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:55:02 +0300
Subject: media key behavior?
In-Reply-To: <20090507141912.6852e107@tomh>
References: <20090506212024.07493a53@zooty>
	<1241710396.2923.483.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090507130117.242615a7@tomh>
	<1241717393.2923.497.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090507141912.6852e107@tomh>
Message-ID: <a2e85ed0905080155q9b66e5cl96c2b674ef40e625@mail.gmail.com>

On a side note I'm very happy with F11 media keys support. For
instance I never managed to assign "Think Vantage/ Access IBM" button
to a shortcut. I was very surprised when in F11 I could do that.


-- 
NV



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri May  8 12:57:49 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri,  8 May 2009 12:57:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090508 changes
Message-ID: <20090508125749.D6E211B8006@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri May  8 06:15:05 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

anaconda-11.5.0.51-1.fc11
-------------------------
* Thu May 07 2009 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.5.0.51-1
- Don't clear the first partition on any disk with a Mac disk label
  (#492154). (clumens)
- Add detailedMessageWindow to the cmdline class (#499700). (clumens)
- Don't traceback when a freespace partition is present (#499662). (clumens)
- Do nomodeset when doing xdriver=vesa (ajax)
- Fix calculation of smallest PV's size in the lvm dialog. (#493753)
  (dlehman)
- Fix KeyError when partition numbers change during allocation. (#497911)
  (dlehman)
- Update EFI CD booting code in mk-images (pjones)


bittorrent-4.4.0-12.fc11
------------------------
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 4.4.0-12
- Add icon back in menu entry


fedora-logos-11.0.5-1.fc11
--------------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 11.0.5-1
- Add plymouth "Charge" theme artwork


fprintd-0.1-9.git04fd09cfa.fc11
-------------------------------
* Thu May 07 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.1-9.git04fd09cfa
- Add /var/lib/fprint to the RPM to avoid SELinux errors (#499513)


gcc-4.4.0-4
-----------
* Wed May 06 2009 Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat.com> 4.4.0-4
- update from gcc-4_4-branch
  - PRs c++/40013, libgcj/39899, libstdc++/39868, libstdc++/39880,
	libstdc++/39881, libstdc++/39882, libstdc++/39909, middle-end/39937,
	rtl-optimization/39914, target/39565, testsuite/39769,
	testsuite/39776, testsuite/39790, testsuite/39807,
	tree-optimization/39941
  - fix phiprop tuplification (#496400, PR tree-optimization/40022)
- don't add artificial default case label if switch labels already
  cover the whole range (PR middle-end/39666)
- fix DSE with block reads (PR middle-end/40035)
- fix debuginfo for C++ typedef struct {...} T (PR debug/35463)
- remove some unnecessary padding on x86_64/i386 added for >= 4 control
  flow insns in a 16-byte block (PR target/39942)
- don't create invalid DWARF location lists containing DW_OP_reg*
  followed by DW_OP_deref*, instead use DW_OP_breg* 0 (#481675)
- add libstdc++-docs subpackage, move html manual to it, add doxygen
  generated html and man pages


gvfs-1.2.2-7.fc11
-----------------

livecd-tools-024-1.fc11
-----------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> - 024-1
- Fix ppc image creation (#497193, help from jwboyer)
- Fixes for using ext[23] usb stick (wtogami)
- Check filesystem after resizing and raise an error if there are 
  problems (#497377)


rubygem-rails-2.3.2-2.fc11
--------------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 David Lutterkort <lutter at redhat.com> - 2.3.2-2
- Fix replacement of shebang lines; broke scripts/generate (bz 496480)


trousers-0.3.1-16.fc11
----------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 0.3.1-16
- Fix a typo in groupadd causing the %pre scriptlet to fail (resolves BZ#486155).


xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-34.20090507git1072103.fc11
------------------------------------------------------
* Thu May 07 2009 Ben Skeggs <bskeggs at redhat.com> 0.0.12-34.20090507git1072103
- upstream update, fix issues that occured from recent exa abi change


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 10









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From brian at brianvuyk.com  Fri May  8 13:56:41 2009
From: brian at brianvuyk.com (Brian Vuyk)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 09:56:41 -0400
Subject: Plasma crash on every boot
Message-ID: <4A043A19.8020903@brianvuyk.com>

Every time I boot my system, the KDE crash handler pops up with a Plasma 
crash. I don't notice any abnormal system behavior other than the crash 
dialog.

This is with a fully update rawhide. I am including the backtrace the 
Crash handler gives below.

I can't find this in bugzilla, so if it is unknown / unheard-of here, 
then I will post it. In the meantime, can anyone suggest any further 
information I should provide?

*Brian Vuyk*
Web Design & Development
T: 613-534-2916
Skype: brianvuyk
brian at brianvuyk.com | http://www.brianvuyk.com

------------------------------------------------

Application: Plasma Workspace (plasma), signal SIGSEGV

[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0xb7fa27a0 (LWP 1966))]

Thread 3 (Thread 0xace5db70 (LWP 1973)):

#0 0x00199422 in __kernel_vsyscall ()

#1 0x005dd015 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at 
../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/i486/pthread_cond_wait.S:122

#2 0x02e54ef7 in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from 
/usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#3 0x0029fd8a in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4

#4 0x02e53e8e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#5 0x005d8965 in start_thread (arg=0xace5db70) at pthread_create.c:297

#6 0x0050cf9e in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/clone.S:130

Thread 2 (Thread 0xac2ffb70 (LWP 1974)):

#0 0x00199422 in __kernel_vsyscall ()

#1 0x005dd015 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at 
../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/i486/pthread_cond_wait.S:122

#2 0x02e54ef7 in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from 
/usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#3 0x011361ea in ?? () from /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_wallpaper_image.so

#4 0x02e53e8e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#5 0x005d8965 in start_thread (arg=0xac2ffb70) at pthread_create.c:297

#6 0x0050cf9e in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/clone.S:130

Thread 1 (Thread 0xb7fa27a0 (LWP 1966)):

[KCrash Handler]

#6 0x05d981fa in 
TaskManager::GroupManager::add(KSharedPtr<TaskManager::Task>) () from 
/usr/lib/libtaskmanager.so.4

#7 0x05d99aa2 in 
TaskManager::GroupManager::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) 
() from /usr/lib/libtaskmanager.so.4

#8 0x02f5c948 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**) () 
from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#9 0x02f5d5e2 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, 
int, void**) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#10 0x05db0b93 in 
TaskManager::TaskManager::taskAdded(KSharedPtr<TaskManager::Task>) () 
from /usr/lib/libtaskmanager.so.4

#11 0x05db2e83 in TaskManager::TaskManager::windowAdded(unsigned long) 
() from /usr/lib/libtaskmanager.so.4

#12 0x05db410f in 
TaskManager::TaskManager::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) () 
from /usr/lib/libtaskmanager.so.4

#13 0x02f5c948 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**) () 
from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#14 0x02f5d5e2 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, 
int, void**) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#15 0x07ef9543 in KWindowSystem::windowAdded(unsigned long) () from 
/usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5

#16 0x07efc60e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5

#17 0x07f0b4b5 in NETRootInfo::update(unsigned long const*) () from 
/usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5

#18 0x07f0b7a7 in NETRootInfo::event(_XEvent*, unsigned long*, int) () 
from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5

#19 0x07efca11 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5

#20 0x07db1326 in KApplication::x11EventFilter(_XEvent*) () from 
/usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5

#21 0x023b210a in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma.so

#22 0x03561590 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4

#23 0x03572a00 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) () from 
/usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4

#24 0x0359f142 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4

#25 0x007c11e8 in g_main_dispatch (context=<value optimized out>) at 
gmain.c:1814

#26 IA__g_main_context_dispatch (context=<value optimized out>) at 
gmain.c:2367

#27 0x007c47f8 in g_main_context_iterate (context=0x833ea90, 
block=<value optimized out>, dispatch=1, self=0x8337000) at gmain.c:2448

#28 0x007c496a in IA__g_main_context_iteration (context=0x833ea90, 
may_block=1) at gmain.c:2511

#29 0x02f71bcc in 
QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) 
() from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#30 0x0359e825 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4

#31 0x02f44c69 in 
QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from 
/usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#32 0x02f450b2 in 
QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from 
/usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#33 0x02f4743f in QCoreApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#34 0x034feb77 in QApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4

#35 0x023a1746 in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma.so

#36 0x080486eb in _start ()





From brian at brianvuyk.com  Fri May  8 13:57:59 2009
From: brian at brianvuyk.com (Brian Vuyk)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 09:57:59 -0400
Subject: Plasma crash on every boot
In-Reply-To: <4A043A19.8020903@brianvuyk.com>
References: <4A043A19.8020903@brianvuyk.com>
Message-ID: <4A043A67.2010509@brianvuyk.com>

I should also mention this is a SIGSEGV :p

On 05/08/2009 09:56 AM, Brian Vuyk wrote:
> Every time I boot my system, the KDE crash handler pops up with a 
> Plasma crash. I don't notice any abnormal system behavior other than 
> the crash dialog.
>
> This is with a fully update rawhide. I am including the backtrace the 
> Crash handler gives below.
>
> I can't find this in bugzilla, so if it is unknown / unheard-of here, 
> then I will post it. In the meantime, can anyone suggest any further 
> information I should provide?
>
> *Brian Vuyk*
> Web Design & Development
> T: 613-534-2916
> Skype: brianvuyk
> brian at brianvuyk.com | http://www.brianvuyk.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> Application: Plasma Workspace (plasma), signal SIGSEGV
>
> [Current thread is 1 (Thread 0xb7fa27a0 (LWP 1966))]
>
> Thread 3 (Thread 0xace5db70 (LWP 1973)):
>
> #0 0x00199422 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
>
> #1 0x005dd015 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at 
> ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/i486/pthread_cond_wait.S:122
>
> #2 0x02e54ef7 in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from 
> /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
>
> #3 0x0029fd8a in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4
>
> #4 0x02e53e8e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
>
> #5 0x005d8965 in start_thread (arg=0xace5db70) at pthread_create.c:297
>
> #6 0x0050cf9e in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/clone.S:130
>
> Thread 2 (Thread 0xac2ffb70 (LWP 1974)):
>
> #0 0x00199422 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
>
> #1 0x005dd015 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at 
> ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/i486/pthread_cond_wait.S:122
>
> #2 0x02e54ef7 in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from 
> /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
>
> #3 0x011361ea in ?? () from /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_wallpaper_image.so
>
> #4 0x02e53e8e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
>
> #5 0x005d8965 in start_thread (arg=0xac2ffb70) at pthread_create.c:297
>
> #6 0x0050cf9e in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/clone.S:130
>
> Thread 1 (Thread 0xb7fa27a0 (LWP 1966)):
>
> [KCrash Handler]
>
> #6 0x05d981fa in 
> TaskManager::GroupManager::add(KSharedPtr<TaskManager::Task>) () from 
> /usr/lib/libtaskmanager.so.4
>
> #7 0x05d99aa2 in 
> TaskManager::GroupManager::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) 
> () from /usr/lib/libtaskmanager.so.4
>
> #8 0x02f5c948 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**) () 
> from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
>
> #9 0x02f5d5e2 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, 
> int, void**) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
>
> #10 0x05db0b93 in 
> TaskManager::TaskManager::taskAdded(KSharedPtr<TaskManager::Task>) () 
> from /usr/lib/libtaskmanager.so.4
>
> #11 0x05db2e83 in TaskManager::TaskManager::windowAdded(unsigned long) 
> () from /usr/lib/libtaskmanager.so.4
>
> #12 0x05db410f in 
> TaskManager::TaskManager::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) 
> () from /usr/lib/libtaskmanager.so.4
>
> #13 0x02f5c948 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**) () 
> from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
>
> #14 0x02f5d5e2 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, 
> int, void**) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
>
> #15 0x07ef9543 in KWindowSystem::windowAdded(unsigned long) () from 
> /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
>
> #16 0x07efc60e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
>
> #17 0x07f0b4b5 in NETRootInfo::update(unsigned long const*) () from 
> /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
>
> #18 0x07f0b7a7 in NETRootInfo::event(_XEvent*, unsigned long*, int) () 
> from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
>
> #19 0x07efca11 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
>
> #20 0x07db1326 in KApplication::x11EventFilter(_XEvent*) () from 
> /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
>
> #21 0x023b210a in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma.so
>
> #22 0x03561590 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
>
> #23 0x03572a00 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) () from 
> /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
>
> #24 0x0359f142 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
>
> #25 0x007c11e8 in g_main_dispatch (context=<value optimized out>) at 
> gmain.c:1814
>
> #26 IA__g_main_context_dispatch (context=<value optimized out>) at 
> gmain.c:2367
>
> #27 0x007c47f8 in g_main_context_iterate (context=0x833ea90, 
> block=<value optimized out>, dispatch=1, self=0x8337000) at gmain.c:2448
>
> #28 0x007c496a in IA__g_main_context_iteration (context=0x833ea90, 
> may_block=1) at gmain.c:2511
>
> #29 0x02f71bcc in 
> QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) 
> () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
>
> #30 0x0359e825 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
>
> #31 0x02f44c69 in 
> QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () 
> from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
>
> #32 0x02f450b2 in 
> QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from 
> /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
>
> #33 0x02f4743f in QCoreApplication::exec() () from 
> /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
>
> #34 0x034feb77 in QApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
>
> #35 0x023a1746 in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma.so
>
> #36 0x080486eb in _start ()
>
>
>


-- 
*Brian Vuyk*
Web Design & Development
T: 613-534-2916
Skype: brianvuyk
brian at brianvuyk.com | http://www.brianvuyk.com



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri May  8 14:04:17 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 08:04:17 -0600
Subject: Mouse choice
Message-ID: <1241791457.14257.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I am still having trouble with my mouse choices.  However, I did notice
that while I am in the virtual machine it works perfectly well.  This my
desktop.  This is what makes me believe that it is a problem with
programming. Something is broke. Because of my inexperience, I can't be
of any help in process of fixing it.  Sorry.
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From jlaska at redhat.com  Fri May  8 14:51:44 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:51:44 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <1241450430.2726.44.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241448549.2726.40.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040758w6ef5f0d5r8a715092a05f6737@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241450430.2726.44.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1241794304.2601.33.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 11:20 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 15:58 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > >> >> I don't have any warm fuzzies about how good F11 is going to be;
> > >> >> I'm afraid that anaconda's instability has blocked a lot of the
> > >> >> testing we'd normally get.
> > >> >
> > >> > Fair point.  I'm optimistic with the number of Test Days and the
> > >> > increasing use of live images for testing.  That said, there is a
> > >> > significant hurdle to overcome for calming down the installer.
> > >>
> > >> I agree the test days have helped but its concerning that I still
> > >> can't do an install with custom partitions with the preview release.
> > >> And there doesn't seem to be a lot of traction on the bug to fix it
> > >> before release.
> > >
> > > I agree Peter.  From my perspective things have been improving with
> > > anaconda.  However, the exposure continues to be the previous disk
> > > layout especially those involving dmraid.
> > >
> > > When filing a bug, please be as specific as possible when outlining the
> > > "steps to reproduce."  Order is very important for the custom disk
> > > partitioning.  If a traceback occurs, the resulting traceback file
> > > (/tmp/anacdump.txt) and any screenshots are tremendously helpful.
> > >
> > > In the case of bug#492154, it appears that the previous OSX disk layout
> > > may be the culprit.  I'm reaching out to the anaconda-devel folks for
> > > advice on further pinpointing this issue.  I'll hopefully follow-up with
> > > more information.
> > 
> > Interesting, if that was caused by OSX disk layouts maybe some of the
> > bugs that were marked as dupes of it should be reopened. Or at least
> > the contents of the various bug reports re-examined for information.
> > The original bug I filed was marked as a dupe of that and I've since
> > put updates on that ticket but haven't been told that its not relevant
> > or to open a new bug.
> 
> Let's see what comes out of initial triage efforts for this bug.  Stay
> tuned ...

Peter and Tom, and others who've experienced bug#492154 (Partition map
has no partition map entry).  

Chris Lumens feels confident in a fix but would like some feedback.  If
you have some time, please download the latest rawhide boot.iso [1] and
attempt to reproduce the bug.  You can pass along your findings directly
in the bug report at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492154,
or on the list here.

Thanks,
James

[1]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide#Direct_Rawhide_install


-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090508/ddd13bed/attachment.sig>

From billcrawford1970 at gmail.com  Fri May  8 15:02:32 2009
From: billcrawford1970 at gmail.com (Bill Crawford)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 16:02:32 +0100
Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <b5b999040905080134n36e2cf3cw8437e7e99f13db43@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1608990582.31707.1241745894235.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn08.prod>	<4A03E9B0.6000805@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<b5b999040905080134n36e2cf3cw8437e7e99f13db43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A044988.1050507@googlemail.com>

Affix wrote:
> There must be a way we can remove the fedora emails from services like this
> 
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:13 AM, John Summerfield 
> <debian at herakles.homelinux.org <mailto:debian at herakles.homelinux.org>> 
> wrote:
> 
>     Mr Leslie Satenstein wrote:
> 
>         LinkedIn
>         ------------
> 
> 
> 
>           Fedora-Test_list,
> 
>         I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
> 
> 
>     <expletives deleted> off.


Usually this is the result of "helpful" services that offer to read your 
address book and "add your friends" ... unfortunately the proper 
solution would be for address books to distinguish between mailing lists 
and individual addresses, and these services to only add the latter. In 
the meantime, I think the best solution would be to add specific checks 
for known "annoying" things like LinkedIn to spamassassin or the like on 
the list servers.



From dex.mbox at googlemail.com  Fri May  8 17:48:58 2009
From: dex.mbox at googlemail.com (dexter)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:48:58 +0100
Subject: Plasma crash on every boot
In-Reply-To: <4A043A19.8020903@brianvuyk.com>
References: <4A043A19.8020903@brianvuyk.com>
Message-ID: <a993ebee0905081048i790aaa90paefd9640a8c7b873@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/8 Brian Vuyk <brian at brianvuyk.com>:
> Every time I boot my system, the KDE crash handler pops up with a Plasma
> crash. I don't notice any abnormal system behavior other than the crash
> dialog.
>
> This is with a fully update rawhide. I am including the backtrace the Crash
> handler gives below.
>
> I can't find this in bugzilla, so if it is unknown / unheard-of here, then I
> will post it. In the meantime, can anyone suggest any further information I
> should provide?
>
I'm seeing it in F9 since the last update of kdebase-workspace but not
at boot its more intermittent, things got a little unstable.
If you're feeling lucky:
debuginfo-install kdebase-workspace
then file a report.

...dex



From brian at brianvuyk.com  Fri May  8 17:52:11 2009
From: brian at brianvuyk.com (Brian Vuyk)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 13:52:11 -0400
Subject: Plasma crash on every boot
In-Reply-To: <a993ebee0905081048i790aaa90paefd9640a8c7b873@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A043A19.8020903@brianvuyk.com>
	<a993ebee0905081048i790aaa90paefd9640a8c7b873@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A04714B.4040705@brianvuyk.com>

On 05/08/2009 01:48 PM, dexter wrote:
> 2009/5/8 Brian Vuyk<brian at brianvuyk.com>:
>    
>> Every time I boot my system, the KDE crash handler pops up with a Plasma
>> crash. I don't notice any abnormal system behavior other than the crash
>> dialog.
>>
>> This is with a fully update rawhide. I am including the backtrace the Crash
>> handler gives below.
>>
>> I can't find this in bugzilla, so if it is unknown / unheard-of here, then I
>> will post it. In the meantime, can anyone suggest any further information I
>> should provide?
>>
>>      
> I'm seeing it in F9 since the last update of kdebase-workspace but not
> at boot its more intermittent, things got a little unstable.
> If you're feeling lucky:
> debuginfo-install kdebase-workspace
> then file a report.
>
> ...dex
>
>    
Doh - hate to say it, but the size of that (280mb) is likely to put me 
over my bandwidth cap for the month (stupid Canadian telcos).

Are there any specific packages out of the full debuginfo install that 
you think would apply here?
-- 
*Brian Vuyk*
Web Design & Development
T: 613-534-2916
Skype: brianvuyk
brian at brianvuyk.com | http://www.brianvuyk.com



From tgl at redhat.com  Fri May  8 18:06:55 2009
From: tgl at redhat.com (Tom Lane)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:06:55 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :( 
In-Reply-To: <1241794304.2601.33.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com> 
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241448549.2726.40.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040758w6ef5f0d5r8a715092a05f6737@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241450430.2726.44.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<1241794304.2601.33.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <11121.1241806015@sss.pgh.pa.us>

James Laska <jlaska at redhat.com> writes:
> Peter and Tom, and others who've experienced bug#492154 (Partition map
> has no partition map entry).  

> Chris Lumens feels confident in a fix but would like some feedback.  If
> you have some time, please download the latest rawhide boot.iso [1] and
> attempt to reproduce the bug.  You can pass along your findings directly
> in the bug report at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492154,
> or on the list here.

FWIW, today's rawhide seems to succeed on the "use whole disk" case.
I'm currently reinstalling OSX so that I can try the other cases;
will report to the bz entry when done.  It looks promising though.

Now, if only the X11 guys would fix my other problem (#494420) ...
the text-only install mode leaves a lot to be desired in terms of
flexibility.

			regards, tom lane



From dex.mbox at googlemail.com  Fri May  8 18:13:50 2009
From: dex.mbox at googlemail.com (dexter)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:13:50 +0100
Subject: Plasma crash on every boot
In-Reply-To: <4A04714B.4040705@brianvuyk.com>
References: <4A043A19.8020903@brianvuyk.com>
	<a993ebee0905081048i790aaa90paefd9640a8c7b873@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A04714B.4040705@brianvuyk.com>
Message-ID: <a993ebee0905081113k41ce4156v6f9876472c470ba7@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/8 Brian Vuyk <brian at brianvuyk.com>:
> On 05/08/2009 01:48 PM, dexter wrote:
>>
>> 2009/5/8 Brian Vuyk<brian at brianvuyk.com>:
>>
>>>
>>> Every time I boot my system, the KDE crash handler pops up with a Plasma
>>> crash. I don't notice any abnormal system behavior other than the crash
>>> dialog.
>>>
>>> This is with a fully update rawhide. I am including the backtrace the
>>> Crash
>>> handler gives below.
>>>
>>> I can't find this in bugzilla, so if it is unknown / unheard-of here,
>>> then I
>>> will post it. In the meantime, can anyone suggest any further information
>>> I
>>> should provide?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm seeing it in F9 since the last update of kdebase-workspace but not
>> at boot its more intermittent, things got a little unstable.
>> If you're feeling lucky:
>> debuginfo-install kdebase-workspace
>> then file a report.
>>
>> ...dex
>>
>>
>
> Doh - hate to say it, but the size of that (280mb) is likely to put me over
> my bandwidth cap for the month (stupid Canadian telcos).
>
> Are there any specific packages out of the full debuginfo install that you
> think would apply here?

kdebase-workspace-debuginfo        i386    4.2.2-5.fc9
  updates-newkey-debuginfo             64 M
is a start, or use the trace you have now and see if kde-sig can
reproduce in bz.

...dex



From caf at omen.com  Fri May  8 18:18:22 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:18:22 -0700
Subject: Rawhide pxeboot install working again
Message-ID: <4A04776E.8020608@omen.com>

Title say it all.  Haven't had a chance to play with it but it did
install.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May  8 18:53:43 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:53:43 -0700
Subject: Bug workflow page revised
In-Reply-To: <571dcba60905061558h798615efy92867111f7323332@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1241630879.2923.464.camel@adam.local.net>
	<571dcba60905061558h798615efy92867111f7323332@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241808823.2923.524.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 00:58 +0200, Niels Haase wrote:
> 2009/5/6 Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>:
> > Hi, guys.
> >
> > I just got a bit inspired by a QA meeting discussion, and have made
> > substantial revisions to
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow . It should
> > now be a lot more comprehensive and informative about the whole Fedora
> > cycle (and it's also in the right order!)
> 
> Looks good, but I was wondering about the CURRENTRELEASE, DEFERRED and
> NEXTRELEASE resolutions. You wrote that this are used only for the
> RHEL workflow, but if I look at this list http://tinyurl.com/dbaae5
> (all closed bugs from NetworkManager in F10) it shows up many of the
> above resolutions. Sometimes they are set (wrongly) by the developer
> or, with seams to be more problematic, by updates at fedoraproject.org,
> like here https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_activity.cgi?id=492246 . It
> looks wrong for me, or did I missed something?

Progress report:

indeed, the updates bot currently closes bugs for which an update is
released in a stable Fedora as 'NEXTRELEASE'. Per the RHEL definitions,
this is clearly wrong: NEXTRELEASE is meant to be used for, say, a bug
that's reported in RHEL 5.3 but fixed in RHEL 5.4 (and which won't ever
be fixed in RHEL 5.3).

Previously it closed them as 'CURRENTRELEASE', which is equally wrong:
per the RHEL definitions, CURRENTRELEASE means "The problem described
has been fixed and only ever appeared in unsupported or unreleased
products."

Now, we can have the Fedora process use resolutions to have different
meanings than they do in RHEL, but I think that way madness lies. I've
spoken to the Bugzilla maintainer and we can't yet display one set of
resolutions / statuses for Fedora bugs and another for RHEL bugs, so
we're stuck displaying the same set of resolutions for all bugs.

We could invent a new resolution - FEDORA_UPDATE or something -
but...gneeesh. We have enough frickin' resolutions already.

So I still think the best solution is my original one, bugs closed by
the release of official Fedora updates should be closed as ERRATA. For
RHEL, ERRATA means "The problem described has been fixed and will be
available as an errata update from our support web site. Please check
the site to see if it is currently available for download."; that's
pretty compatible with "We've released an official Fedora update that
fixes the bug".

Jesse Keating gave me some background on this:

<f13> at one time, we decided that "ERRATA" was improper for Fedora
<f13> fedora doesn't issue errata, we issue updates
...
<f13> yeah, I just know that early on in Fedora's life, "errata" was
verboten.

but he also opined that now's a good time to revisit this. I agree that
ERRATA would mean something slightly different for Fedora than it means
for RHEL, but that's an improvement on NEXTRELEASE meaning something
*completely* different, and I think it's the best available option given
the constraints we're working with.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From davidsen at tmr.com  Fri May  8 19:20:05 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:20:05 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <11121.1241806015@sss.pgh.pa.us>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>
	<5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>	<1241448549.2726.40.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<5256d0b0905040758w6ef5f0d5r8a715092a05f6737@mail.gmail.com>	<1241450430.2726.44.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<1241794304.2601.33.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<11121.1241806015@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Message-ID: <4A0485E5.7050405@tmr.com>

Tom Lane wrote:
> James Laska <jlaska at redhat.com> writes:
>> Peter and Tom, and others who've experienced bug#492154 (Partition map
>> has no partition map entry).  
> 
>> Chris Lumens feels confident in a fix but would like some feedback.  If
>> you have some time, please download the latest rawhide boot.iso [1] and
>> attempt to reproduce the bug.  You can pass along your findings directly
>> in the bug report at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492154,
>> or on the list here.
> 
> FWIW, today's rawhide seems to succeed on the "use whole disk" case.
> I'm currently reinstalling OSX so that I can try the other cases;
> will report to the bz entry when done.  It looks promising though.
> 
> Now, if only the X11 guys would fix my other problem (#494420) ...
> the text-only install mode leaves a lot to be desired in terms of
> flexibility.
> 
Have you tried booting with "vga=ask" yet? That works for me, even on my problem 
system.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Fri May  8 20:30:47 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 16:30:47 -0400
Subject: Mouse choice
In-Reply-To: <1241791457.14257.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1241791457.14257.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241814647.2611.25.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 08:04 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> I am still having trouble with my mouse choices.  However, I did notice
> that while I am in the virtual machine it works perfectly well.  This my
> desktop.  This is what makes me believe that it is a problem with
> programming. Something is broke. Because of my inexperience, I can't be
> of any help in process of fixing it.  Sorry.

We can certainly try to help walk you through a diagnosis.  Some basic
questions:

* Are you running Gnome (Fedora default) or KDE for your desktop?
* Exactly what desktop setting are you attempting to change, which is
failing?
* Are there any entries in /var/log/messages which are produced when you
attempt to do this, or which look like they might be related?
* What type of mouse is it (USB, PS2, Bluetooth, etc.; manufacturer and
model if you know?)
* How did you install Fedora 11?  (Did you use the alpha, beta, preview,
installer or "yum upgrade" from Fedora 10?)  Have you updated the system
recently?
* What are the variables in /etc/selinux/config set to (the contents of
the file minus the lines starting with #)

-B.



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri May  8 21:07:09 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:07:09 -0600
Subject: Mouse choices
Message-ID: <1241816829.3398.22.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Thank you.  
* I am running Gnome
* I wanted to change my mouse from the standard right-hand to left-hand
* None that I understand.  I tried opening each and there was nothing
* I using a Logitech wireless Keyboard and mouse combo x710 USB
* I installed Fedora 4 different times and each time I used a fresh Dvd.
I started with beta and then pre-release. Somewhere between the Beta and
the pre-release I encountered the problem.
* Selinux= enforcing and Selinuxtype=targeted
I hope I've answered all your questions.  I have just learn some things
about where to look for things.  Thanks again

Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From poelstra at redhat.com  Fri May  8 21:13:33 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:13:33 -0700
Subject: Fedora 11 Blocker Bug Day on 2009-05-11
Message-ID: <4A04A07D.1060607@redhat.com>

Release Engineering will be hosting a blocker review day on Monday, May 
11, 2009.

The purpose of this meeting will be to:
1) review all of the bugs on the Fedora 11 Blocker list to see if they 
belong there
2) assess how things are looking for shipping Fedora 11 on time based on 
what remains on the list

It would be helpful if lead package maintainers for each of the groups 
could join us or be in the channel should questions arise.

WHEN: Monday, May 11, 2009  @ 14:00 UTC (10 AM EDT) and going as long as 
we need to
WHERE: irc.freenode.net
        #fedora-bugzappers

Fedora 11 Blocker: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=446452&hide_resolved=1

Other tracker bugs of interest for Fedora 11 are here: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Trackers

See you Monday!
John



From tgl at redhat.com  Fri May  8 21:16:26 2009
From: tgl at redhat.com (Tom Lane)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 17:16:26 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :( 
In-Reply-To: <4A0485E5.7050405@tmr.com> 
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241448549.2726.40.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040758w6ef5f0d5r8a715092a05f6737@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241450430.2726.44.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<1241794304.2601.33.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<11121.1241806015@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4A0485E5.7050405@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <15173.1241817386@sss.pgh.pa.us>

Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> Now, if only the X11 guys would fix my other problem (#494420) ...
>> the text-only install mode leaves a lot to be desired in terms of
>> flexibility.
>> 
> Have you tried booting with "vga=ask" yet? That works for me, even on my problem 
> system.

Hmm, as a boot option you mean?  Doesn't seem to do anything at all,
I still see just the same behavior as with no option.  Thanks for
suggesting something though ...

			regards, tom lane



From iarlyy at gmail.com  Fri May  8 21:38:32 2009
From: iarlyy at gmail.com (iarly selbir | ski0s)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:38:32 -0300
Subject: F11 preview - Battery duration
In-Reply-To: <89bdee5a0905061750g3556f819pfc41fe8a52cb5526@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81481f630905061648r3fcb9042t7fb50b65632f3436@mail.gmail.com>
	<89bdee5a0905061750g3556f819pfc41fe8a52cb5526@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <81481f630905081438q20429f18q12c1c9bf27f9522d@mail.gmail.com>

heheh, It would too good to be true, after aprox 1 hour and 50 minutes my
system shutdown without any alert or information of power manager applet


Regards,

- -
iarly selbir | ski0s

:wq!


On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Gireesh <sgireeshmail at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:18 AM, iarly selbir | ski0s <iarlyy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm not believing, my laptop has a battery of 4 cells, after I enable on
> > power management applet the Xtreme power save mode, my battery duration
> goes
> > from 2 hours of duratin to 14 hours... uaaaaall
> >
>
> The change to DeviceKit means the power applets read the battery info
> incorrectly in some cases. My battery used to show negative capacity
> for a while before a bug was fixed.
>
> While recent power savings in F11 do seem to make up some gains, 2
> hours to 14 hours on a 4 cell battery is simply unbelievable.
>
> The only way to confirm is to ofcourse let your laptop run till it
> powers off without battery. Do save your work *before* 2 hours and
> file a bug if the laptop switches off anytime sooner than 14 hours ;-)
>
> PS: If it really goes on to run for 14 hours, I would be very
> interested in knowing the laptop model.
>
> --
> Gireesh
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090508/8d0c4526/attachment.htm>

From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Fri May  8 22:09:05 2009
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 00:09:05 +0200
Subject: F11 preview - Battery duration
In-Reply-To: <81481f630905081438q20429f18q12c1c9bf27f9522d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81481f630905061648r3fcb9042t7fb50b65632f3436@mail.gmail.com>
	<89bdee5a0905061750g3556f819pfc41fe8a52cb5526@mail.gmail.com>
	<81481f630905081438q20429f18q12c1c9bf27f9522d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241820545.9376.8.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>

On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 18:38 -0300, iarly selbir | ski0s wrote:
> heheh, It would too good to be true, after aprox 1 hour and 50 minutes
> my system shutdown without any alert or information of power manager
> applet
> 
Heh, and I had originally thought this happens only to me because my
battery is old and broken and rhythmbox is effectively blocking (as I
have set it to) power manger (which however knows only 100%, 3% and 0%
for my battery capacity) from shutting the computer down... Well, the
more surprising thing is when the machine shuts down (correctly, with a
notification beforehand) because of empty battery when the AC is plugged
in (and reported as plugged in)... I think I'll need to search in
bugzilla or file a bug myself about this...

> 
> Regards,
> 
> - -
> iarly selbir | ski0s
> 
> :wq!
> 
Martin
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090509/e57bb997/attachment.sig>

From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Fri May  8 23:57:16 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 09:57:16 +1000
Subject: Nvidia (proprietary) suspend resume issues
Message-ID: <1241827037.2760.3.camel@moose>

Hey All,

I know that Fedora doesn't support the proprietary nvidia driver, but
since the single most important feature for me on my laptop is
suspend/resume support I'm left with little choice but to use it.

So, just a head up that I'm finding I can suspend and resume once at the
moment and the second attempt fails to resume, leaving my laptop needing
a reboot.

I've file a bug report at rpmfusion:
https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595

If anyone has a similar issue, please contribute there. ;-]

regards


Rodd




From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sat May  9 00:02:11 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 20:02:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: is there an issue with USB-serial converter support?
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905081938440.31145@localhost.localdomain>


  here's what's happening.  f11 x86_64 updated beta, connected to an
embedded (beagleboard) system thusly:

  host USB port <->
    regular USB cable <->
      targus port replicator with serial port <->
        null modem cable <->
          everex PC AT cable (DB9 to 10-pin connector)

works fine -- minicom at 115200 8N1, no flow control, and device file
/dev/ttyUSB0.  when i plug it in, my host /var/log/messages appears
thusly:

ay  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 74
May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: New USB device found,
idVendor=0711, idProduct=0230
May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: New USB device strings:
Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: Manufacturer: USB-RS232
Interface Converter
May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: SerialNumber: 204395
May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: configuration #1 chosen
from 1 choice
May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: mct_u232 2-1.4:1.0: MCT U232
converter detected
May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: MCT U232 converter now
attached to ttyUSB0
May  8 19:47:19 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (ttyUSB0): ignoring
due to lack of mobile broadband capabilties

looks good, and i'm connected to the console on the beagle board.

  what i want to do now is replace the clunky targus port replicator
with a USB-serial converter to give me:

  host USB port <->
    no-name USB-serial converter cable <->
      null modem cable <->
        everex PC AT cable (DB9 to 10-pin connector)

but i've yet to get that to work properly.  when i plug in the
converter, i get:

May  8 19:57:21 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 78
May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: New USB device found,
idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303
May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: New USB device strings:
Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: Product: USB-Serial
Controller
May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: Manufacturer: Prolific
Technology Inc.
May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen
from 1 choice
May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: pl2303 2-1:1.0: pl2303 converter
detected
May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: pl2303 converter now
attached to ttyUSB0
May  8 19:57:22 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (ttyUSB0): ignoring
due to lack of mobile broadband capabilties

  except that what i see in minicom is crap -- lots of unprintable
characters, as if it's running at the wrong baud rate or something.  i
didn't do anything special when i plugged in the converter, and here's
the first few lines from "modinfo pl2303":

filename:
/lib/modules/2.6.29.2-129.fc11.x86_64/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/pl2303.ko
license:        GPL
description:    Prolific PL2303 USB to serial adaptor driver
srcversion:     EF203DC966F54AFA826B33F
...

  is there a known issue with USB-serial converters?  i just noticed
that that module has a single load-time parameter:

debug:Debug enabled or not (bool)

so i guess i can try that next and see what happens.  but i was
expecting this to work right out of the box, as they say.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sat May  9 02:38:48 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 04:38:48 +0200
Subject: Mouse choices
References: <1241647638.3290.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241703962.5583.18.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<23429579.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <gu2qbo$2jb$10@ger.gmane.org>

Mike Cloaked wrote:
> Also what is the equivalent for KDE?

System / System Settings / Keyboard & Mouse / Mouse / Left-handed

        Kevin Kofler



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sat May  9 02:59:46 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 22:59:46 -0400
Subject: is there an issue with USB-serial converter support?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905081938440.31145@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905081938440.31145@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A04F1A2.70505@speakeasy.net>

I do not have a problem with FTDI-based UARTs like the FT232R devices.
I've been merrily programming Arduino devices on F11 using the FTDI
uarts. I think the PL2303 you have is also known as the Dynex
USB-to-Serial converter, and I have one of those. I'll give it a try
tomorrow.

It could be that the PL2303 need a kernel config turned on. But when
I've used (what I think are) equivalent devices in the past, they have
always worked great in Fedora kernels.

Please note that my username belongs to all of these groups:

uucp
dialout <--- this one is important in F11 for /dev/ttyUSBn
lock
wheel

I was getting nastygrams from Arduino's IDE until I updated my group
memberships.

Bob


Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   here's what's happening.  f11 x86_64 updated beta, connected to an
> embedded (beagleboard) system thusly:
>
>   host USB port <->
>     regular USB cable <->
>       targus port replicator with serial port <->
>         null modem cable <->
>           everex PC AT cable (DB9 to 10-pin connector)
>
> works fine -- minicom at 115200 8N1, no flow control, and device file
> /dev/ttyUSB0.  when i plug it in, my host /var/log/messages appears
> thusly:
>
> ay  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: new full speed USB device
> using ohci_hcd and address 74
> May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: New USB device found,
> idVendor=0711, idProduct=0230
> May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: New USB device strings:
> Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
> May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: Manufacturer: USB-RS232
> Interface Converter
> May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: SerialNumber: 204395
> May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: configuration #1 chosen
> from 1 choice
> May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: mct_u232 2-1.4:1.0: MCT U232
> converter detected
> May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: MCT U232 converter now
> attached to ttyUSB0
> May  8 19:47:19 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (ttyUSB0): ignoring
> due to lack of mobile broadband capabilties
>
> looks good, and i'm connected to the console on the beagle board.
>
>   what i want to do now is replace the clunky targus port replicator
> with a USB-serial converter to give me:
>
>   host USB port <->
>     no-name USB-serial converter cable <->
>       null modem cable <->
>         everex PC AT cable (DB9 to 10-pin connector)
>
> but i've yet to get that to work properly.  when i plug in the
> converter, i get:
>
> May  8 19:57:21 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device
> using ohci_hcd and address 78
> May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: New USB device found,
> idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303
> May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: New USB device strings:
> Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: Product: USB-Serial
> Controller
> May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: Manufacturer: Prolific
> Technology Inc.
> May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen
> from 1 choice
> May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: pl2303 2-1:1.0: pl2303 converter
> detected
> May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: pl2303 converter now
> attached to ttyUSB0
> May  8 19:57:22 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (ttyUSB0): ignoring
> due to lack of mobile broadband capabilties
>
>   except that what i see in minicom is crap -- lots of unprintable
> characters, as if it's running at the wrong baud rate or something.  i
> didn't do anything special when i plugged in the converter, and here's
> the first few lines from "modinfo pl2303":
>
> filename:
> /lib/modules/2.6.29.2-129.fc11.x86_64/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/pl2303.ko
> license:        GPL
> description:    Prolific PL2303 USB to serial adaptor driver
> srcversion:     EF203DC966F54AFA826B33F
> ...
>
>   is there a known issue with USB-serial converters?  i just noticed
> that that module has a single load-time parameter:
>
> debug:Debug enabled or not (bool)
>
> so i guess i can try that next and see what happens.  but i was
> expecting this to work right out of the box, as they say.
>
> rday
> --
>
> ========================================================================
> Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
>
>         Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.
>
> Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
> Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
> Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
> ========================================================================
>
>   



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Sat May  9 04:12:06 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 22:12:06 -0600
Subject: Mouse choices
In-Reply-To: <gu2qbo$2jb$10@ger.gmane.org>
References: <1241647638.3290.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241703962.5583.18.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<23429579.post@talk.nabble.com>  <gu2qbo$2jb$10@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1241842326.3282.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

System/Preference/Mouse



On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 04:38 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Mike Cloaked wrote:
> > Also what is the equivalent for KDE?
> 
> System / System Settings / Keyboard & Mouse / Mouse / Left-handed
> 
>         Kevin Kofler
> 
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Sat May  9 04:14:11 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 22:14:11 -0600
Subject: Mouse choices
In-Reply-To: <1241842326.3282.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1241647638.3290.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1241703962.5583.18.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<23429579.post@talk.nabble.com>  <gu2qbo$2jb$10@ger.gmane.org>
	<1241842326.3282.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1241842451.3282.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 22:12 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> System/Preference/Mouse/left-handed
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 04:38 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Mike Cloaked wrote:
> > > Also what is the equivalent for KDE?
> > 
> > System / System Settings / Keyboard & Mouse / Mouse / Left-handed
> > 
> >         Kevin Kofler
> > 
> -- 
> Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>
> 
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Sat May  9 04:27:21 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 04:27:21 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090509042722.1ECB310F96A@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    anki-0.9.9.7.8-2.fc9
    bittorrent-4.4.0-12.fc9
    cas-0.14-10.fc9
    cups-1.3.10-5.fc9
    kernel-2.6.27.22-78.2.48.fc9
    perl-File-Flock-2008.01-1.fc9
    perl-JSON-RPC-0.96-2.fc9
    rubygem-cobbler-1.6.0-1.fc9
    sos-1.8-11.fc9
    testdisk-6.11-3.fc9
    viewvc-1.0.8-1.fc9
    wavemon-0.6-2.fc9
    weechat-0.2.6.2-1.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 anki-0.9.9.7.8-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4311)
 Flashcard program for using space repetition learning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.8 with lots of bug fixes and minor
enhancements.    The full changelog can be found here:
http://ichi2.net/anki/download/index.html#changes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.8-2
- Updated noupdate patch
* Wed May  6 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.8-1
- Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bittorrent-4.4.0-12.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4347)
 BitTorrent swarming network file transfer tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update should resolve KeyError tracebacks from the tracker service
(#451496)    There are also additional categories FileTransfer and P2P in the
GUI's desktop file (#487789), and the menu icon for the GUI client is restored
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 24 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 4.4.0-12
- Add icon back in menu entry
* Mon Apr  6 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 4.4.0-11
- Add support for floating point values in bencode (#451496), resolving
  tracebacks with KeyError: <type 'float'>
  (thanks to Oleg Aprotskiy for the patch)
- Don't apply format string patch; it serves no purpose really
- Fix for KeyError: 'max_incomplete' in tracker (#451496)
- Define RPM macros in global context in spec file
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 4.4.0-10
- Fix syntax issues causing failure to build for Fedora 11
- Update format strings to enable re-ordering of parameters in translations
- Add additional categories FileTransfer and P2P in desktop entry (#487789)
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.0-9
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 4.4.0-8
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #487789 - .desktop menu entry has wrong/missing categories
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487789
  [ 2 ] Bug #451496 - bittorrent tracker fails to track (with traceback)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451496
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cas-0.14-10.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4625)
 Tool to analyze and configure core file environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New release, extended documentation, maintenance capabilities, snippet support.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Adam Stokes <ajs at redhat dot com> - 0.14-8
- support for purging old data
- documentation updated to reflect updated workflow and describe
  new features.
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Adam Stokes <ajs at redhat dot com> - 0.14-2
- Finalizing sqlite implementation
- added AUTHORS
* Thu Apr  2 2009 Scott Dodson <sdodson at sdodson dot com > - 0.14-1
- Spec file changes to handle the snippets directory
- Snippets support to replace hardcoding crash input cmds
* Wed Feb 11 2009 Adam Stokes <ajs at redhat dot com> - 0.13-120
- added proper documentation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cups-1.3.10-5.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4052)
 Common Unix Printing System
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes three problems introduced in the previous update.  The more
strict requirement for clients to include a printer-uri attribute in IPP-Get-
Jobs IPP requests has been temporarily relaxed until older clients have been
fixed.  The hostname checking did not accept the "ServerName" value if not also
listed as an alias.  The IPv6 address "::1" was not accepted as a valid Host:
value for a local connection.    It also adds a line to /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to
disable validity checking of the HTTP Host header for incoming connections, if
no server aliases have yet been defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1:1.3.10-5
- Restart cupsd if "ServerAlias *" is added to cupsd.conf
  (bug #497354).
- Ship "ServerAlias *" in cupsd.conf.default configuration file as
  well (bug #498884).
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1:1.3.10-4
- Adjust cupsd.conf by adding "ServerAlias *" automatically on upgrade
  (part of bug #497301).  The default cupsd.conf now includes this
  line as well.
* Sun Apr 26 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1:1.3.10-2
- Accept "Host: ::1" (bug #497393).
- Accept Host: fields set to the ServerName value (bug #497301).
- Temporarily relax requirement to have printer-uri attribute in
  IPP-Get-Jobs request (bug #497519).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497301 - Cannot print remotely
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497301
  [ 2 ] Bug #497393 - cannot print after cups upgrade
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497393
  [ 3 ] Bug #497519 - lpq -a from RHEL remote clients failure
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497519
  [ 4 ] Bug #497354 - system-config-printer does not publish my shared printers
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497354
  [ 5 ] Bug #498884 - cups rejects access from non-localhost
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498884
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kernel-2.6.27.22-78.2.48.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4547)
 The Linux kernel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to kernel 2.6.27.22:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.27.22    Update the
r8169 network driver to the version from Linux 2.6.30-rc3.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.22-78.2.48
- Linux 2.6.27.22
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.22-78.2.47.rc1
- Revert netdevice_ops changes in the r8169 driver so it builds on 2.6.27.
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.22-78.2.46.rc1
- Linux 2.6.27.22-rc1
- Update r8169 network driver to 2.6.30-rc3-git6
- Dropped patches merged upstream:
  linux-2.6-usb-cdc-wdm-fix-oops.patch
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.21-78.2.45
- Set CONFIG_UEVENT_HELPER_PATH to the empty string (#496296)
* Wed Apr  8 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>  2.6.27.21-78.2.44
- Fix oops in cdc-wdm modem driver. (#481741)
* Tue Apr  7 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com>  2.6.27.21-78.2.43
- iwlwifi: remove implicit direct scan
* Thu Mar 26 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>  2.6.27.21-78.2.42
- Next round of ext4 fixes for -stable.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #481741 - Oops in cdc-wdm when connecting phone: Sony Ericsson W350
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481741
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-File-Flock-2008.01-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4385)
 File locking with flock
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-JSON-RPC-0.96-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4504)
 Perl implementation of JSON-RPC 1.1 protocol
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-cobbler-1.6.0-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4500)
 An interface for interacting with a Cobbler server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Release 1.6.0 of the Cobbler ruby bindings.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 1.6.0-1
- Dropped support for pre-1.6 instances of Cobbler.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sos-1.8-11.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4641)
 A set of tools to gather troubleshooting information from a system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Remove triggering sysrq data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Adam Stokes <ajs at redhat dot com> - 1.8-11
- Remove all instances of sysrq
- Consistent macro usage in spec
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.8-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 testdisk-6.11-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4447)
 Tool to check and undelete partition, PhotoRec recovers lost files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

TestDisk 6.11 can undelete files from NTFS partition and recover deleted exFAT.
Over 50 file types have been added to PhotoRec.  TestDisk & PhotoRec 6.11 are
faster than previous versions.  Read
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_6.11_Release for more information
TestDisk 6.11 can undelete files from NTFS partition and recover deleted exFAT.
Over 50 file types have been added to PhotoRec.  TestDisk & PhotoRec 6.11 are
faster than previous versions.  Read
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_6.11_Release for more information
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-3
- Use upstream patch v2
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-2
- Add upstream patch that add missing bound checks when parsing EXIF information
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-1
- Update to latest version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494351 - RFE: Please add PhotoRec to the Summary and %description
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494351
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 viewvc-1.0.8-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4323)
 Browser interface for CVS and SVN version control repositories
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- fix directory view sorting UI  - tolerate malformed Accept-Language headers
(issue #396)  - fix directory log views in revision-less Subversion repositories
- fix exception in rev-sorted remote Subversion directory views (issue #409)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Bojan Smojver <bojan at rexursive.com> - 1.0.8-1
- Bump up to 1.0.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wavemon-0.6-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4523)
 Ncurses-based monitoring application for wireless network devices
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

wavemon is a wireless device monitoring application that allows you to  watch
all important information like device configuration, encryption,  and power
management parameters and network information at once.  Adaptive level bargraphs
for link quality, signal/noise strength and  signal-to-noise ratio.  The
customizeable "level alarm" feature that   notices the user of changes in signal
level strength audibly and/or  visually. wavemon is able to list of access
points in range and shows  full-screen level histogram displaying signal/noise
levels and SNR.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498805 - Review Request: wavemon - Ncurses-based monitoring application for wireless network devices
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498805
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 weechat-0.2.6.2-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4550)
 Portable, fast, light and extensible IRC client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  1 2009 Paul P. Komkoff Jr <i at stingr.net> - 0.2.6.2-1
- fix some charset decoding problems.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Sat May  9 04:27:22 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 04:27:22 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090509042722.7A29D10F89F@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    EekBoek-1.04.03-3.fc11
    R-Biobase-2.4.0-2.fc11
    R-BufferedMatrix-1.8.0-1.fc11
    R-DynDoc-1.22.0-1.fc11
    R-GeneR-2.14.0-1.fc11
    R-IRanges-1.2.0-2.fc11
    R-affyio-1.12.0-2.fc11
    R-multtest-2.0.0-1.fc11
    R-qvalue-1.18.0-1.fc11
    R-tkWidgets-1.22.0-1.fc11
    R-widgetTools-1.22.0-1.fc11
    TurboGears-1.0.8-3.fc11
    abby-0.2.0-2.fc11
    anki-0.9.9.7.8-2.fc11
    audacious-1.5.1-8.fc11
    audacious-plugins-1.5.1-4.fc11
    bluez-4.37-2.fc11
    canto-0.6.9-2.fc11
    cas-0.14-10.fc11
    cclive-0.3.2-2.fc11
    choqok-0.5-3.fc11
    clthreads-2.4.0-3.fc11
    cmake-2.6.4-1.fc11
    collectl-3.3.2-1.fc11
    conman-0.2.4.1-1.fc11
    eclipse-nls-3.4.0.v20090423085802-1.fc11
    ecryptfs-utils-75-1.fc11
    ejabberd-2.0.5-3.fc11
    febootstrap-1.7-1.fc11
    fedora-ksplice-0.5-6.fc11
    flashrom-0.9.0-1.fc11
    fmt-ptrn-1.3.20-3.fc11
    freedroidrpg-0.12.1-1.fc11
    gammu-1.24.0-1.fc11
    garmindev-0.1.1-1.fc11
    gloox-1.0-0.5.SVNr4003.fc11
    glpi-0.71.5-3.fc11
    gnome-power-manager-2.26.1-1.fc11
    grfcodec-0.9.11-0.2.r2111.fc11
    ibus-chewing-1.0.8.20090428-1.fc11
    icecream-0.9.4-1.fc11
    ikiwiki-3.11-1.fc11
    inksmoto-0.6.0-1.rc1.fc11
    ipsec-tools-0.7.2-1.fc11
    jnettop-0.13.0-5.fc11
    kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.1-0.11.20090504svn.fc11
    kdesvn-1.3.0-1.fc11
    ksh-20090501-2.fc11
    libgarmin-0-0.6.20090212svn.fc11
    libgdata-0.2.0-1.fc11
    libmemcached-0.28-2.fc11
    libpst-0.6.37-1.fc11
    lilyterm-0.9.6-1.fc11
    lv2-swh-plugins-1.0.15-2.fc11
    lv2-vocoder-plugins-1-1.fc11
    lv2-zynadd-plugins-1-3.fc11
    lxde-common-0.4-1.fc11
    lxde-settings-daemon-0.4-2.fc11
    lxinput-0.1-1.fc11
    lxsession-lite-0.3.6-5.fc11
    lxshortcut-0.1-1.fc11
    manaworld-0.0.28.1-1.fc11
    mediawiki-InputBox-0-0.2.20090420svn.fc11
    medusa-1.5-5.fc11
    memcached-1.2.8-1.fc11
    menu-cache-0.2.5-1.fc11
    mingw32-filesystem-50-3.fc11.1
    mingw32-libp11-0.2.4-1.fc11
    mingw32-nsiswrapper-3-4.fc11.1
    mingw32-opensc-0.11.7-3.fc11
    minicomputer-1.3-3.fc11
    nco-3.9.8-1.fc11
    nemiver-0.6.7-1.fc11
    nfoview-1.4-3.fc11
    nss_compat_ossl-0.9.5-1.fc11
    nullmodem-0.0.6-1.fc11
    obexd-0.11-1.fc11
    obexd-0.12-1.fc11
    oggvideotools-0.7a-1.fc11
    openchange-0.8.2-2.fc11
    openssl-0.9.8k-4.fc11
    oprofile-0.9.4-7.fc11
    pam_yubico-2.1-1.fc11
    pdfposter-0.4.6-1.fc11
    pdftk-1.41-19.fc11
    perl-Bio-Graphics-1.94-1.fc11
    perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Cache-0.08-2.fc11
    perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Setenv-0.03-1.fc11
    perl-Class-Mix-0.002-1.fc11
    perl-Config-INI-0.014-1.fc11
    perl-Convert-Binary-C-0.74-1.fc11
    perl-DBD-Pg-2.13.1-1.fc11
    perl-Data-FormValidator-Constraints-DateTime-1.09-1.fc11
    perl-Data-Report-0.10-1.fc11
    perl-Fedora-Bugzilla-0.10-1.fc11
    perl-File-Flock-2008.01-1.fc11
    perl-HTML-GenToc-3.10-1.fc11
    perl-HTML-Toc-1.11-1.fc11
    perl-HTML-WikiConverter-0.68-1.fc11
    perl-JSON-RPC-0.96-2.fc11
    perl-Locale-PO-0.21-1.fc11
    perl-Module-Pluggable-Ordered-1.5-1.fc11
    perl-Mouse-0.22-1.fc11
    perl-Term-Prompt-1.04-1.fc11
    perl-Text-CSV-1.10-1.fc11
    perl-Text-Context-EitherSide-1.4-1.fc11
    perl-Text-Textile-2.03-1.fc11
    perl-XML-TokeParser-0.05-1.fc11
    perl-XML-XPathEngine-0.12-1.fc11
    pgp-tools-1.1-2.fc11
    php-ezc-Authentication-1.2.3-1.fc11
    php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.2-1.fc11
    php-ezc-Database-1.4.4-1.fc11
    php-ezc-EventLog-1.3-1.fc11
    php-ezc-File-1.2-2.fc11
    php-ezc-Template-1.3.2-1.fc11
    php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.16-1.fc11
    php-pecl-selinux-0.3.1-2.fc11
    plplot-5.9.3-1.fc11
    powwow-1.2.15-1.fc11
    ppl-0.10.2-2.fc11
    prelude-lml-0.9.14-3.fc11
    pure-ftpd-1.0.22-1.fc11
    pyexiv2-0.1.3-3.fc11
    python-altgraph-0.6.7-2.fc11
    python-configobj-4.6.0-1.fc11
    python-gdata-1.3.1-1.fc11
    python-gdata-1.3.1-2.fc11
    python-migrate-0.5.3-1.fc11
    python-pp-1.5.7-2.fc11
    python-sqlalchemy-0.5.3-1.fc11
    python-upoints-0.11.0-2.fc11
    python-virtualenv-1.3.3-1.fc11
    qlandkartegt-0.11.1-1.fc11
    quassel-0.4.1-1.fc11
    rapid-photo-downloader-0.0.8-3.b7.fc11
    razertool-0.0.7-5.fc11
    rednotebook-0.6.7-1.fc11
    rednotebook-0.6.8-1.fc11
    rfdump-1.6-4.fc11
    rubygem-RedCloth-4.1.9-4.fc11
    rubygem-hoe-1.12.2-1.fc11.1
    rubygem-picnic-0.8.1-1.fc11
    rubygem-reststop-0.4.0-1.fc11
    rubygem-rufus-scheduler-1.0.13-3.fc11
    safecopy-1.2-2.fc11
    sakura-2.3.3-2.fc11
    slapi-nis-0.15-1.fc11
    slv2-0.6.4-1.fc11
    snobol-4.1.2-1.fc11
    sos-1.8-11.fc11
    spamass-milter-0.3.1-14.fc11
    spawn-0.1-1.fc11
    sugar-finance-3-1.fc11
    system-config-boot-0.3.1-1.fc11
    tcpjunk-2.660-1.fc11
    testdisk-6.11-3.fc11
    timespan-2.1-3.fc11
    trustyrc-0.1.3-1.fc11
    waf-1.5.6-1.fc11
    wammu-0.30.1-1.fc11
    wavemon-0.6-2.fc11
    weechat-0.2.6.2-1.fc11
    wormux-0.8.3-1.fc11
    xcowsay-1.1-1.fc11
    xfce4-clipman-plugin-1.0.0-1.fc11
    xmonad-0.8.1-12.fc11.1
    xmoto-0.5.1-0.fc11
    xplanet-1.2.1-1.fc11
    ykclient-2.2-1.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 EekBoek-1.04.03-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4342)
 Bookkeeping software for small and medium-size businesses
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

EekBoek is a bookkeeping package for small and medium-size businesses.  Unlike
other accounting software, EekBoek has both a command-line  interface (CLI) and
a graphical user-interface (GUI, currently under development). Furthermore, it
has a complete Perl API to create your own custom applications. EekBoek is
designed for the Dutch/European market and currently available in Dutch only. An
English translation is in the works (help appreciated).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #483364 - Review Request: EekBoek - Bookkeeping software for small and medium-size businesses
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483364
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-Biobase-2.4.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4328)
 Base functions for Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to the latest release of Bioconductor (2.4)koji
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 2.4.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-BufferedMatrix-1.8.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4328)
 A matrix data storage object method from bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to the latest release of Bioconductor (2.4)koji
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.8.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-DynDoc-1.22.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4328)
 Functions for dynamic documents
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to the latest release of Bioconductor (2.4)koji
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.22.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-GeneR-2.14.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4328)
 R for genes and sequences analysis
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to the latest release of Bioconductor (2.4)koji
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 2.14.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-IRanges-1.2.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4328)
 Low-level containers for storing sets of integer ranges
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to the latest release of Bioconductor (2.4)koji
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.2.0-2
- Update the file section to package doc
- Update the Requires and BR to take into account R version
* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.2.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-affyio-1.12.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4328)
 Tools for parsing Affymetrix data files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to the latest release of Bioconductor (2.4)koji
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 1.12.0-2
- version 1.20.0 != 1.12.0
* Wed Apr 29 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 1.12.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R 2.9.0
- Add requires to R-methods
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-multtest-2.0.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4328)
 Multiple hypothesis testing library from Bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to the latest release of Bioconductor (2.4)koji
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 2.0.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
- Use global instead of define
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-qvalue-1.18.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4328)
 Q-value estimation for false discovery rate control
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to the latest release of Bioconductor (2.4)koji
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 1.18.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R 2.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-tkWidgets-1.22.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4328)
 Widgets to provide user interfaces from bioconductor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to the latest release of Bioconductor (2.4)koji
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.22.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
- Uses global instead of define
- Change the license from LGPLv2+ to Artistic 2.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-widgetTools-1.22.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4328)
 Bioconductor tools to support tcltk widgets
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to the latest release of Bioconductor (2.4)koji
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> 1.22.0-1
- Update to Bioconductor 2.4 and R-2.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 TurboGears-1.0.8-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4390)
 Back-to-front web development in Python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes a bug where backwards compat was dropped for the allow_limit_override in
the paginate decorator.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Toshio Kuratomi <toshio at fedoraproject.org> - 1.0.8-3
- Fix from upstream for pagination problem.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 abby-0.2.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4608)
 Front-end for cclive and clive
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

abby is a front-end for clive and cclive, allowing users unfamiliar with
command-line interfaces to make most of cclive using a graphical  user-
interface. abby is written in C++.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496489 - Review Request: abby - Front-end for cclive and clive
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496489
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 anki-0.9.9.7.8-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4401)
 Flashcard program for using space repetition learning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.8 with lots of bug fixes and minor
enhancements.    The full changelog can be found here:
http://ichi2.net/anki/download/index.html#changes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.8-2
- Updated noupdate patch
* Wed May  6 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.8-1
- Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 audacious-1.5.1-8.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4313)
 A GTK2 based media player similar to xmms
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix segfault when starting without playlist, fix playback behaviour when started
with a file on the command line
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  1 2009 Ralf Ertzinger <ralf at skytale.net> 1.5.1-8
- Fix for "segfault with no playlist present" (BZ#475691)
- Fix for broken playlist handling (BZ#475691), patch from
  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19179891/audacious_1.5.1-3ubuntu1.1.debdiff
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #475691 - F10:audacious:1.5.1 - Broken playing feature and multiple "Segmentation fault"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475691
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 audacious-plugins-1.5.1-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4556)
 Plugins for the Audacious media player
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

-Fix playback of .oga files - Look for timitidy.cfg in /etc - Fix missing
symbols in amidi-plugin - Include CD-audio plugin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  1 2009 Ralf Ertzinger <ralf at skytale.net> 1.5.1-4
- Accept .oga files (BZ#479120)
- Look for timitidy.cfg in /etc (BZ#450933)
- Fix missing symbols in amidi-plugin (BZ#478557)
- Include CD-audio plugin (BZ#442921)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #479120 - Audacious doesn't load and play .oga files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=479120
  [ 2 ] Bug #450933 - Audacious timidity plugin fails
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450933
  [ 3 ] Bug #478557 - Audacious amidi plugin missing symbol
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478557
  [ 4 ] Bug #442921 - Audacious plugins is missing the CD audio plugin
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442921
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bluez-4.37-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4440)
 Bluetooth utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Add support for the Socket Mobile CF connection card
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 4.37-2
- Add patch to activate the Socket Mobile CF kit (#498756)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498756 - Socket bluetooth card needs additional config
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498756
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 canto-0.6.9-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4362)
 Atom/RSS feed reader based on ncurses
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First CVS import and update
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cas-0.14-10.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4677)
 Tool to analyze and configure core file environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New release, extended documentation, maintenance capabilities, snippet support.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Adam Stokes <ajs at redhat dot com> - 0.14-8
- support for purging old data
- documentation updated to reflect updated workflow and describe
  new features.
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Adam Stokes <ajs at redhat dot com> - 0.14-2
- Finalizing sqlite implementation
- added AUTHORS
* Thu Apr  2 2009 Scott Dodson <sdodson at sdodson dot com > - 0.14-1
- Spec file changes to handle the snippets directory
- Snippets support to replace hardcoding crash input cmds
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cclive-0.3.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4477)
 Command line video extraction utility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

cclive is a command line video extraction utility similar to clive but with
lower requirements. Its features are few and essential. Supports Youtube,
Googlevideo, Break, Liveleak, Sevenload, Evisortv and Dailymotion.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496486 - Review Request: cclive - Command line video extraction utility
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496486
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 choqok-0.5-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4665)
 Choqok KDE Micro-Blogging Client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Patched choqok to remember state of tweet to all
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 10 2009 Tejas Dinkar <tejas at gja.in> - 0.5-3
- Added the TweetAll patch, remove this by 0.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 clthreads-2.4.0-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4538)
 POSIX threads C++ access library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Clthreads is a C++ wrapper library around the POSIX threads API.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498862 - Review Request: clthreads - POSIX threads C++ access library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498862
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cmake-2.6.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4548)
 Cross-platform make system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to cmake 2.6.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 2.6.4-1
- Update to 2.6.4
- Drop patch for bug #475876 fixed upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 collectl-3.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4364)
 A utility to collect various linux performance data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- upgrade to upstream version 3.3.2 - changelog:
http://collectl.sourceforge.net/Releases.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> 3.3.2-1
- upgrade to upstream version 3.3.2
- install missing file
- changelog: http://collectl.sourceforge.net/Releases.html
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> 3.3.1-1
- upgrade to upstream version 3.3.1
- changelog: http://collectl.sourceforge.net/Releases.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 conman-0.2.4.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4662)
 ConMan - The Console Manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 20 2009 Steven M. Parrish <tuxbrewr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.4.1-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496439 - New release 0.2.4 available
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496439
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 eclipse-nls-3.4.0.v20090423085802-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4452)
 Babel language packs for the Eclipse platform and various plugins
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Replacing earlier bugfix since much more recent translations became available
from upstream. Updated to more recent Babel translations to fix problem found in
'de' langpack.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Sean Flanigan <sflaniga at redhat.com> - 3.4.0.v20090423085802-1
- Upstream has working langpack downloads again - updated to latest version
- Added subpackages for en_AU, et, hi and mn langpacks
- Changed filenames back to newer format (as in rawhide spec)
- Made base package eclipse-nls owner of babel dropins directories
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Sean Flanigan <sflaniga at redhat.com> - 3.4.0.v20081026043401-1
- Backported from rawhide spec (3.5.0.v20090417091040-1), changed filenames
 to suit older langpacks
- Updated to use Babel's zipped langpacks instead of fetch-babel.sh
- Changed versioning scheme to match changes in upstream versioning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497153 - eclipse-nls-de breaks jface
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497153
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ecryptfs-utils-75-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4575)
 The eCryptfs mount helper and support libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> 75-1
- updated to 75
- restrict mount.ecryptfs_private to ecryptfs group members only
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ejabberd-2.0.5-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4597)
 A distributed, fault-tolerant Jabber/XMPP server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Added CAPTCHA plugin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 21 2009 Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov at gmail.com> 2.0.5-3
- CAPTCHA is back - let's test it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 febootstrap-1.7-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4478)
 Bootstrap a new Fedora system (like debootstrap)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 20 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.7-1
- New upstream release 1.7.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fedora-ksplice-0.5-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4439)
 Script Collection for Using KSplice on Fedora Linux
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Fix dependency issue agains ppc64 and ppc    * Remove empty debuginfo package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 0.5-6
- Set debug_package to %{nil} (#498787)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498707 - fedora-ksplice: empty debuginfo package
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498707
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 flashrom-0.9.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4461)
 Simple program for reading/writing BIOS chips content
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ver. 0.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov at gmail.com> 0.9.0-1
- Ver. 0.9.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fmt-ptrn-1.3.20-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4423)
 A simple template system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Apr 25 2009 W. Michael Petullo <mike[@]flyn.org> - 1.3.20-3
- Fix ldconfig post for java package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #479024 - scriptlet wrong on main package
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=479024
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 freedroidrpg-0.12.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4627)
 Role playing game with Freedroid theme and Tux as the hero
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Many level updates, including a new tutorial level, an updated first level, and
some bug fixes in the game engine.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.12.1-1
- Update to 0.12.1
- Move data files to a noarch -data subpackage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gammu-1.24.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4494)
 Command Line utility to work with mobile phones
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Xavier Lamien <lxtnow at gmail.com> - 1.24.0-1
- Update release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 garmindev-0.1.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4375)
 Drivers for communication with Garmin GPS devices
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to version 0.1.1 add support for eTrex Legend C and GPSMap76
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 15 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> 0.1.1-1
- update to version 0.1.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gloox-1.0-0.5.SVNr4003.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4622)
 A rock-solid, full-featured Jabber/XMPP client library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial push gloox into Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494693 - Review Request: gloox - A rock-solid, full-featured Jabber/XMPP client library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494693
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 glpi-0.71.5-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4486)
 Free IT asset management software
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Post 0.71.5 fix from upstream:  - Cache clean when rule is deleted see #1227  -
More security test  - correct styles  - restore problem   - Remove space when
trying to build a user's dn  - fix memory_limit = -1 detection  - fix
externalImportDropdown for phone  - fix cartridge time in stock / used
computation - Fixed #1243  - don't delete dropdown ID=0  - Error when making an
ldap request and login field is not present   - default profil with CAS - fixed
#1259  - fix type in SQL request
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Apr 26 2009 Remi Collet <Fedora at FamilleCollet.com> - 0.71.5-3
- post 0.71.5 patches
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnome-power-manager-2.26.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4567)
 GNOME Power Manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to 2.26.1  - Fix the low capacity warning  - Backport DPMS and IDLETIME
fixes from master to fix multiple bugs  - Connect to gnome-session and exit on
logout  - Remove upstreamed patches
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #489832 - Display of battery information reported is wrong
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489832
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 grfcodec-0.9.11-0.2.r2111.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4314)
 A suite of programs to modify Transport Tycoon Deluxe's GRF files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498744 - Review Request: grfcodec - A suite of programs to modify Transport Tycoon Deluxe's GRF files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498744
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-chewing-1.0.8.20090428-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4438)
 The Chewing engine for IBus input platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

ibus-chewing-1.0.8 provides plainZhuyin support and fix some minor bug of
next_version targets.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.8.20090428-1
Fix the errors which Funda Wang as pointing out:
 1. Move src/chewing.xml.in to data/
 2. Fixed some typo in next_version targets.
 3. Remove GConf2 package requirement, while add gconftool-2 requirement.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 icecream-0.9.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4309)
 Distributed compiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release 0.9.4.    Fixes random failures of compile jobs where the
input was from stdin. This is used in the Linux kernel and the bug caused
spurious full rebuilds (See https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495786
for details.)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Michal Schmidt <mschmidt at redhat.com> - 0.9.4-1
- Upstream release 0.9.4.
- Dropped merged patches.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ikiwiki-3.11-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4636)
 A wiki compiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 3.11. See http://ikiwiki.info/news/ for a list of changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 3.11-1
- Update to 3.11.
* Sat Apr 25 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 3.10-1
- Update to 3.10.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 inksmoto-0.6.0-1.rc1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4388)
 The new xmoto level editor for Inkscape
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

RC1 of new upstream version.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 21 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 0.6.0-1.rc1
- Update to 0.6.0~rc1.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ipsec-tools-0.7.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4394)
 Tools for configuring and using IPSEC
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Minor version update from upstream fixing remote DoS.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 0.7.2-1
- Update to a new upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497990 - ipsec-tools: racoon NULL dereference in fragmentation code
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497990
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jnettop-0.13.0-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4434)
 Network traffic tracker
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

ncurses based network traffic tracker
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490872 - Review Request: jnettop - Network traffic tracker
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490872
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.1-0.11.20090504svn.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4450)
 NetworkManager KDE 4 integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A new snapshot of the native KDE 4 applet/widget (plasmoid) to control
NetworkManager, as an alternative to the GNOME nm-applet (NetworkManager-gnome).
Please note that this is still alpha software with known issues. We still
recommend nm-applet from NetworkManager-gnome for production use.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.1-0.11.20090504svn
- New snapshot (revision 963263 committed 2009-05-04 10:57 UTC)
- Clarify %description
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Ben Boeckel <MathStuf at gmail.com> 0.1-0.10.20090424svn
- Respin snapshot
- Add disclaimer to %description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesvn-1.3.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4442)
 A subversion client for KDE4 with KIO integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New frontend which integrates a navigation panel.    Other changes are:        *
removed obsolete log limit setting        * a lot tickets closed        * fixes
in KIO
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 24 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 1.3.0-1
- Update to 1.3.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ksh-20090501-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4672)
 The Original ATT Korn Shell
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at reshat.com> - 20090501-2
- skip release -1 because of broken koji
* Tue May  5 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhalvink at redhat.com> - 20090501-1
- updated to 2009-05-01
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libgarmin-0-0.6.20090212svn.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4443)
 C library to parse and use Garmin image files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Libgarmin is a library used to parse IMG files from Garmin GPS devices.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #468631 - Review Request: libgarmin - C library to parse and use Garmin image files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468631
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libgdata-0.2.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4666)
 Library for the GData protocol
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Apr 25 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.2.0-1
- Update to 0.2.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libmemcached-0.28-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4453)
 Client library and command line tools for memcached server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

libmemcached is a C client library to the memcached server
(http://danga.com/memcached). It has been designed to be light on memory usage,
and provide full access to server side methods.    It also implements several
command line tools:    memcat - Copy the value of a key to standard output.
memflush - Flush the contents of your servers.  memrm - Remove a key(s) from the
server.  memstat - Dump the stats of your servers to standard output.  memslap -
Generate testing loads on a memcached cluster.  memcp - Copy files to memcached
servers.  memerror - Creates human readable messages from libmemcached error
codes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497682 - Review Request: libmemcached - Client library and command line tools for memcached server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497682
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libpst-0.6.37-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4497)
 Utilities to convert Outlook .pst files to other formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

properly add trailing mime boundary in all modes, build separate subpackages
with shared library, fix minor memory leak
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 17 2009 Carl Byington <carl at five-ten-sg.com> - 0.6.37-1
- add pst_attach_to_mem() back into the shared library interface.
- fix memory leak caught by valgrind.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lilyterm-0.9.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4543)
 Light and easy to use X Terminal Emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

LilyTerm is a light and easy to use libvte based X Terminal Emulator with a lot
of features.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496167 - Review Request: lilyterm - Light and easy to use X Terminal Emulator
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496167
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lv2-swh-plugins-1.0.15-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4605)
 LV2 ports of LADSPA swh plugins
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is an early experimental port of my LADSPA plugins to the LV2
specification, c.f. http://lv2plug.in/ . It's still quite early days, but most
things should work as well or not as they did in LADSPA.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492945 - Review Request: lv2-swh-plugins - LV2 ports of LADSPA swh plugins
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492945
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lv2-vocoder-plugins-1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4589)
 Add a robotic effect to vocals
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Perhaps you don't know what a vocoder is, but you have heard one before for
sure. Vocoders are often used to add a robotic effect to vocals in music.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492950 - Review Request: lv2-vocoder-plugins - Add a robotic effect to vocals
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492950
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lv2-zynadd-plugins-1-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4651)
 LV2 port of the ZynAddSubFX engine
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The zyn project main goal is to extract synth engines from ZynAddSubFX and pack
them in LV2 plugin format. Resulting plugins are heavily based on work made by
Nasca Octavian Paul. If you like the amazing sounds these plugins generate you
should thank Paul for this.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492971 - Review Request: lv2-zynadd-plugins - LV2 port of the ZynAddSubFX engine
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492971
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxde-common-0.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4317)
 Default configuration files for LXDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version 0.4. lxde-settings has been renamed to lxde-settings-daemon
and got it's own package. The obsolete config file
/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default has been removed from this package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4-1
- Update to 0.4
- Require lxmenu-data and lxde-settings-daemon
- Drop obsolete config file /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxde-settings-daemon-0.4-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4645)
 XSettings Daemon for LXDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This package contains the XSettings daemon for LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop
Environment. It allows XSettings aware applications (all GTK+ 2 and GNOME 2
applications) to be informed instantly of changes in LXDE configuration, such as
theme name, default font and so on.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498125 - Review Request: lxde-settings-daemon - XSettings Daemon for LXDE
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498125
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxinput-0.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4408)
 Keyboard and mouse settings dialog for LXDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

LXInput is a keyboard and mouse configuration utility for LXDE, the Lightweight
X11 Desktop Environment.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498130 - Review Request: lxinput - Keyboard and mouse settings dialog for LXDE
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498130
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxsession-lite-0.3.6-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4358)
 Lightweight X11 session manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update enables user switching with gdm and fixes the icons in the logout
dialog.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 27 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.6-5
- Fix Session name (Andrew Lee)
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.6-4
- Support user switching also with newer gdm
- Add patch to fix icon search path (Marty Jack)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxshortcut-0.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4406)
 Small utility to edit application shortcuts
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

LXShortcut is a small utility to edit application shortcuts created with
freedesktop.org Desktop Entry spec.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498492 - Review Request: lxshortcut - Small utility to edit application shortcuts
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498492
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 manaworld-0.0.28.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4561)
 2D MMORPG world
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update contains updated translations for German, Spanish, Finnish, Swedish
and Polish
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Wart <wart at kobold.org> 0.0.28.1-1
- Update to 0.0.28.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mediawiki-InputBox-0-0.2.20090420svn.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4371)
 An extension to enable input box tags for mediawiki pages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The%2520InputBox%2520extension%2520is%2520a%2520MediaWiki%2520extension%2520whic
h%2520adds%2520already%2520created%2520HTML%2520forms%2520to%2520wiki%2520pages.
%2520Users%2520can%2520%2522complete%2522%2520a%2520form%2520%2528entering%2520t
ext%252C%2520selecting%2520menu%2520items%252C%2520etc.%2529%2520by%2520entering
%2520text%2520into%2520the%2520box.%250D%250A%250D%250AInputBox%2520was%2520orig
inally%2520created%2520by%2520Erik%2520Moeller%2520for%2520the%2520purpose%2520o
f%2520adding%2520a%2520%2522Create%2520an%2520article%2522%2520box%2520to%2520Wi
kinews.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 medusa-1.5-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4586)
 Parallel brute forcing password cracker
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 memcached-1.2.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4542)
 High Performance, Distributed Memory Object Cache
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Paul Lindner <lindner at inuus.com> - 1.2.8-1
- Upgrade to memcached-1.2.8
- Addresses CVE-2009-1255
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498271 - CVE-2009-1255 memcached: ASLR bypass weakness
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498271
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 menu-cache-0.2.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4668)
 Caching mechanism for freedesktop.org compliant menus
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version 0.2.5 that makes menu-cached more reliable and moves the
executables from /usr/bin to /usr/libexec.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.5-1
- Update to 0.2.5
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.4-1
- Update to 0.2.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-filesystem-50-3.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-4611)
 MinGW base filesystem and environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 21 2009 Richard W.M. Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 50-3.1
- Fix dependency problem with + in DLL name (Thomas Sailer).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-libp11-0.2.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4320)
 MingGW Windows libp11 library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Libp11 is a library implementing a small layer on top of PKCS#11  API to make
using PKCS#11 implementations easier.    This is the MinGW cross-compiled
Windows library.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494283 - Review Request: mingw32-libp11 - MingGW Windows libp11 library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494283
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-nsiswrapper-3-4.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-4559)
 Helper program for making NSIS Windows installers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 21 2009 Richard W.M. Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 3-4.1
- Fix dependency problem with + in DLL name (Thomas Sailer).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-opensc-0.11.7-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4588)
 MingGW Windows OpenSC library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

OpenSC is a package for for accessing smart card devices.  Basic  functionality
(e.g. SELECT FILE, READ BINARY) should work on any ISO  7816-4 compatible smart
card.  Encryption and decryption using private  keys on the smart card is
possible with PKCS #15 compatible cards,  such as the FINEID (Finnish Electronic
IDentity) card.  Swedish Posten  eID cards have also been confirmed to work.
This is the MinGW cross-compiled Windows library.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491758 - Review Request: mingw32-opensc - MingGW Windows OpenSC library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491758
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 minicomputer-1.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4479)
 Software Synthesizer
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Minicomputer is a standalone Linux software synthesizer for creating
experimental electronic sounds as its often used in but not limited to
Industrial music, IDM, EBM, Glitch, sound design and minimal electronic. It is
monophonic but can produce up to 8 different sounds at the same time. It uses
Jack as realtime audio infrastructure and can be controlled via Midi.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490588 - Review Request: minicomputer - Software Synthesizer
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490588
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nco-3.9.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4322)
 Suite of programs for manipulating NetCDF/HDF4 files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 3.9.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 30 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 3.9.8-1
- Update to 3.9.8
- Update install headers patch
* Mon Mar 30 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 3.9.7-2
- Drop include patch fixed in antlr 2.7.7-5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nemiver-0.6.7-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4511)
 A GNOME C/C++ Debugger
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream release (0.6.7)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Dodji Seketeli <dodji at redhat.org> - 0.6.7-1
- Update to new upstream release (0.6.7)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nfoview-1.4-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4308)
 Viewer for NFO files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

NFO Viewer is a simple viewer for NFO files, which are "ASCII" art in  the CP437
codepage. The advantages of using NFO Viewer instead of a  text editor are
preset font and encoding settings, automatic window  size and clickable
hyperlinks.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496677 - Review Request: nfoview - Viewer for NFO files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496677
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nss_compat_ossl-0.9.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4451)
 Source-level compatibility library for OpenSSL to NSS porting
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Change license to MIT  Update to upstream 0.9.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496643 - Possible segfault in SSL_new()
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496643
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nullmodem-0.0.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4370)
 A utility to loopback pseudo-terminals
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sat Apr 25 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.0.6-1  -
Updated to new upstream version 0.0.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Apr 25 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.0.6-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.0.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 obexd-0.11-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4533)
 D-Bus service for Obex Client access
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Apr 25 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.11-1
- Update to 0.11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 obexd-0.12-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4369)
 D-Bus service for Obex Client access
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.12-1
- Update to 0.12
* Sat Apr 25 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.11-1
- Update to 0.11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oggvideotools-0.7a-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4564)
 Toolbox for manipulating Ogg video files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Quite a few bugs noted by upstream were fixed.  Added oggResize.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 15 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 0.7a-1
- update to 0.7a
  dropped upstreamed cstring patch
  added oggResize
  bugfix for wrong size in oggThumb, which causes a green border
  minor bugfixes:
  - random number generator is always initialized with a random seed
  - command line options harmonized (e.g. -s is always size)
  handling for corrupt End-Of-Stream markers
  added sample scripts for easy creation of thumbnails and slideshows with sound
  dokumentation update
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openchange-0.8.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4558)
 Provides access to Microsoft Exchange servers using native protocols
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 0.8.2-2
- Do not own the pkgconfig directory (RH bug #499655).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499655 - Includes/Provides directory it MUST NOT
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499655
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openssl-0.9.8k-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4367)
 A general purpose cryptography library with TLS implementation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 21 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> 0.9.8k-4
- support compatibility DTLS mode for CISCO AnyConnect (#464629)
* Fri Apr 17 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> 0.9.8k-3
- correct the SHLIB_VERSION define
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> 0.9.8k-2
- add support for multiple CRLs with same subject
- load only dynamic engine support in FIPS mode
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #464629 - RFE: Support Cisco's version of DTLS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464629
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oprofile-0.9.4-7.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4581)
 System wide profiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Provide support for the performance monitoring hardware available in Intel Atom
and Nehalem based processors.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 23 2009 Will Cohen <wcohen at redhat.com> - 0.9.4-7
- Backport Intel Architecture Perfmon support. Resolves: rhbz #497230
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497230 - oprofile doesn't like atom or Nehalem
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497230
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pam_yubico-2.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4418)
 A Pluggable Authentication Module for yubikeys
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of pam_yubikey for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498277 - Review Request: pam_yubico - A Pluggable Authentication Module for yubikeys
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498277
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pdfposter-0.4.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4324)
 Scale and tile PDF images/pages to print on multiple pages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Pdfposter can be used to create a large poster by building it from multple
pages and/or printing it on large media. It expects as input a PDF file,
normally printing on a single page. The output is again a PDF file, maybe
containing multiple pages together building the poster.  The input page   will
be scaled to obtain the desired size.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #495311 - Review Request: pdfposter - Scale and tile PDF images/pages to print on multiple pages
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495311
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pdftk-1.41-19.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4431)
 The PDF Tool Kit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Remove a workaround which was required for a broken gcj release. This cause a
better optimization of the compiled code.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 1.41-19
- Remove workaround for broken gcj
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Bio-Graphics-1.94-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4562)
 Generate GD images of Bio::Seq objects
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream (1.94)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 1.94-1
- Update to latest upstream (1.94)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Cache-0.08-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4629)
 Flexible caching support for Catalyst
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498772 - Review Request: perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Cache - Flexible caching support for Catalyst
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498772
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Setenv-0.03-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4319)
 Catalyst::Plugin::Setenv Perl module
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498781 - Review Request: perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Setenv - Catalyst::Plugin::Setenv Perl module
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498781
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Class-Mix-0.002-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4491)
 Dynamic class mixing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498887 - Review Request: perl-Class-Mix - Dynamic class mixing
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498887
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Config-INI-0.014-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4553)
 Config::INI Perl module
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497465 - Review Request: perl-Config-INI - Config::INI Perl module
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497465
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Convert-Binary-C-0.74-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4485)
 Binary data conversion using C types
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream (0.74)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.74-1
- Update to latest upstream (0.74)
- Drop GCC 4.4 patch (fixed upstream)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-DBD-Pg-2.13.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4540)
 A PostgreSQL interface for perl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version, closing two memory leaks.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Stepan Kasal <skasal at redhat.com> - 2.13.1-1
- new upstream release, also fixes #498899
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498899 - perl-DBD-Pg: two memleaks from upstream RT
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498899
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Data-FormValidator-Constraints-DateTime-1.09-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4346)
 D::FV constraints for dates and times
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498866 - Review Request: perl-Data-FormValidator-Constraints-DateTime - D::FV constraints for dates and times
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498866
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Data-Report-0.10-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4421)
 A flexible plugin-driven reporting framework
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Data::Report is a framework for report generation.    You define the columns,
add the data row by row, and get reports in  text, HTML, CSV and so on. Textual
ornaments like extra empty lines, dashed lines, and cell lines can be added in a
way similar to HTML style sheets.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #483286 - Review Request: perl-Data-Report - A flexible plugin-driven reporting framework
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483286
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Fedora-Bugzilla-0.10-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4352)
 Access Fedora's Bugzilla
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Apr 25 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.10-1
- update to 0.10
- alter source0 to point to the CPAN
* Sun Mar 22 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.08-1
- update to 0.08
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-File-Flock-2008.01-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4425)
 File locking with flock
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499103 - Review Request: perl-File-Flock  - File locking with flock
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499103
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTML-GenToc-3.10-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4398)
 Generate a Table of Contents for HTML documents
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497690 - Review Request: perl-HTML-GenToc - Generate a Table of Contents for HTML documents
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497690
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTML-Toc-1.11-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4579)
 Generate, insert and update HTML Table of Contents
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498920 - Review Request: perl-HTML-Toc - Generate, insert and update HTML Table of Contents
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498920
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTML-WikiConverter-0.68-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4679)
 Perl module to convert HTML to wiki markup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499093 - Review Request: perl-HTML-WikiConverter - Perl module to convert HTML to wiki markup
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499093
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-JSON-RPC-0.96-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4663)
 Perl implementation of JSON-RPC 1.1 protocol
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497786 - Review Request: perl-JSON-RPC - Perl implementation of JSON-RPC 1.1 protocol
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497786
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Locale-PO-0.21-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4551)
 Perl module for manipulating .po entries from GNU gettext
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499087 - Review Request: perl-Locale-PO - Perl module for manipulating .po entries from GNU gettext
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499087
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Module-Pluggable-Ordered-1.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4465)
 Call module plugins in a specified order
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498897 - Review Request: perl-Module-Pluggable-Ordered - Call module plugins in a specified order
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498897
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Mouse-0.22-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4469)
 Moose minus the antlers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.22-1
- update to 0.22
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Term-Prompt-1.04-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4505)
 Perl extension for prompting a user for information
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498785 - Review Request: perl-Term-Prompt - Perl extension for prompting a user for information
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498785
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-CSV-1.10-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4475)
 Comma-separated values manipulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Text::CSV provides facilities for the composition and decomposition of comma-
separated values.  An instance of the Text::CSV class can combine fields into a
CSV string and parse a CSV string into fields.    The module accepts either
strings or files as input and can utilize any user-specified characters as
delimiters, separators, and escapes so it is perhaps better called ASV (anything
separated values) rather than just CSV.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #483406 - Review Request: perl-Text-CSV - Comma-separated values manipulator
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483406
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-Context-EitherSide-1.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4578)
 Get n words either side of search keywords
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498912 - Review Request: perl-Text-Context-EitherSide - Get n words either side of search keywords
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498912
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-Textile-2.03-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4377)
 A humane web text generator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498800 - Review Request: perl-Text-Textile - A humane web text generator
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498800
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-XML-TokeParser-0.05-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4676)
 Simplified interface to XML::Parser
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498977 - Review Request: perl-XML-TokeParser - Simplified interface to XML::Parser
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498977
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-XML-XPathEngine-0.12-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4563)
 Re-usable XPath engine for DOM-like trees
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.12-1
- Update to latest upstream (#499068)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499068 - update XML-XPathEngine to 0.12 in rawhide please
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499068
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pgp-tools-1.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4609)
 Collection of several utilities related to OpenPGP
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Adds gpgdir, gpgwrap, and keyanalyze
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 17 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 1.1-2
- add BRs so %check succeeds
- drop upstream's outdated copy of pgpring. mutt provides a newer
  version, so require mutt.
* Fri Apr 17 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 1.1-1
- update to 1.1
  adds gpgdir, gpgwrap, keyanalyze
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Authentication-1.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4580)
 Support for different means of identification and authentication
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The purpose of the Authentication component is to provide support for different
means of identification and authentication of users using different providers
and protocols.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #488538 - Review Request: php-ezc-Authentication - eZ Components Authentication
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488538
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4554)
 A component that allows you to use configuration files in different formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A component that allows you to use configuration files in different formats.
The formats include the standard .ini file, and an array based format.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #488539 - Review Request: php-ezc-Configuration - eZ Components Configuration
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488539
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Database-1.4.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4410)
 A lightweight database layer on top of PHP's PDO
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A lightweight database layer on top of PHP's PDO that allows you to utilize a
database without having to take care of differences in SQL dialects.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #488542 - Review Request: php-ezc-Database - eZ Components Database
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488542
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-EventLog-1.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4444)
 Allows you to log events or audit trails
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Allows you to log events or audit trails into files or other storage spaces in
different formats.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #488549 - Review Request: php-ezc-EventLog - eZ Components EventLog
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488549
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-File-1.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4470)
 Provides support for file operations which are not covered by PHP
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Provides support for file operations which are not covered by PHP or are just
missing.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #484567 - Review Request: php-ezc-File - eZ Components File
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484567
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Template-1.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4501)
 A fully functional Templating system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A fully functional Templating system, supporting template compilation in
different levels, user defined functions and operators, an optimizer, output
escaping for different output handlers to prevent XSS and other security
problems and a plug in system for extra functionality (such as a Translation
system).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490591 - Review Request: php-ezc-Template - eZ Components Template
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490591
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.16-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4544)
 Regression testing framework for unit tests
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream ChangeLog for the PHPUnit 3.3 Release Series
http://www.phpunit.de/wiki/ChangeLog33
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Remi Collet <Fedora at famillecollet.com> - 3.3.16-1
- Upstream sync
- Fix requires (remove hint) and raise PEAR version to 1.7.1
- rename %{pear_name}.xml to %{name}.xml
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498684 - Please consider upgrading phpunit
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498684
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-pecl-selinux-0.3.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4495)
 SELinux binding for PHP scripting language
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

It adds a few features provided by libselinux-2.0.80  - "permissive domain" tag
in selinux_compute_av()  - selinux_deny_unknown() function
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 plplot-5.9.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4412)
 Library of functions for making scientific plots
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 5.9.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 5.9.3-1
- Update to 5.9.3
- Drop gnat-4.4 and f77 patches fixed upstream
- Updated multiarch and test patches
- Add patch to fix up libnistcd.so soversion
- Convert some doc files to UTF-8
- Add lua and lua-devel sub-packages
- Remove rpaths
- Drop gcw driver and pygcw/gnome bindings deprecated upstream
- Drop gd driver deprecated upstream
- Move ldconfig run to plplot-libs, and add to plplot-wxGTK
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com>
- Only disable ocaml support on sparc64, s390, s390x
* Thu Apr 16 2009 S390x secondary arch maintainer <fedora-s390x at lists.fedoraproject.org>
- ExcludeArch sparc64, s390, s390x as we don't have OCaml on those archs
  (added sparc64 per request from the sparc maintainer)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 powwow-1.2.15-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4310)
 A console MUD client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Powwow is a powerful console MUD client that supports triggers, aliases,
multiple connections, and more. It is primarily designed for DikuMUDs, but
nothing prevents its use for other types of MUDs. This client is also
extensible through a plugin interface.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491566 - Review Request: powwow - A console MUD client
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491566
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ppl-0.10.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4496)
 The Parma Polyhedra Library: a library of numerical abstractions
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release.  This will be the reference version for GCC 4.4.*.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Apr 18 2009 Roberto Bagnara <bagnara at cs.unipr.it> 0.10.2-2
- Force rebuild.
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Roberto Bagnara <bagnara at cs.unipr.it> 0.10.2-1
- Updated for PPL 0.10.2.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #463742 - Update version of ppl to  0.10
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=463742
  [ 2 ] Bug #490629 - Please create updates for PPL 0.10 for Fedora 9/10
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490629
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 prelude-lml-0.9.14-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4606)
 The prelude log analyzer
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The configuration files of prelude-lml was a little more open than it needed to
be. This update restricts permissions to the root account.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 22 2009 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> 0.9.14-3
- Adjust dir and config file permissions
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pure-ftpd-1.0.22-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4631)
 Lightweight, fast and secure FTP server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version: 1.0.22
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 27 2009 Aurelien Bompard <abompard at fedoraproject.org> 1.0.22-1
- version 1.0.22
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pyexiv2-0.1.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4459)
 Python binding to exiv2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- New upstream release  - Rebuild against fixed exiv2 library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Apr 18 2009 Mat?j Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com> - 0.1.3-3
- Rebuild after exiv2 was fixed.
- Library shouldn't have executable bit set.
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Mat?j Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com> - 0.1.3-1
- New upstream release (closes bug 494419)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494419 - pyexiv2 0.1.3 released
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494419
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-altgraph-0.6.7-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4585)
 Python graph (network) package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

altgraph is a fork of graphlib: a graph (network) package for constructing
graphs, BFS, and DFS traversals, topological sort, shortest paths, etc. with
graphviz output.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #495372 - Review Request: python-altgraph - Python graph (network) package
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495372
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-configobj-4.6.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4603)
 Config file reading, writing, and validation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updates to latest upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Yaakov M. Nemoy <ynemoy at fedoraproject.org> - 4.6.0-1
- updated to latest upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-gdata-1.3.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4616)
 A Python module for accessing online Google services
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 24 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 1.3.1-1
- Update to 1.3.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-gdata-1.3.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4429)
 A Python module for accessing online Google services
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix warning about deprecated module
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 1.3.1-2
- Fix deprecation warning (#492641)
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 1.3.1-1
- Update to 1.3.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492641 - deprecation warning
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492641
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-migrate-0.5.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4532)
 Schema migration tools for SQLAlchemy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Minor upstream bugfix release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 16 2009 Toshio Kuratomi <toshio at fedoraproject.org> 0.5.3-1
- Update to new bugfix release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-pp-1.5.7-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4512)
 Parallel execution of python on smp
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner <me at stevemilner.org> - 1.5.7-2
- Including new dependency and docs
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner <me at stevemilner.org> - 1.5.7-1
- Updated to upstream latest stable.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-sqlalchemy-0.5.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4345)
 Modular and flexible ORM library for python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Minor upstream bugfix release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 16 2009 Toshio Kuratomi <toshio at fedoraproject.org> - 0.5.3-1
- Upstream bugfix release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-upoints-0.11.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4596)
 Python modules for working with points on Earth
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

upoints, previously called earth_distance, is a collection of  modules for
working with points on a spherical object. It allows  you to calculate the
distance and bearings between points,  mangle xearth/xplanet data files, work
with online UK trigpoint   databases and various other databases.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #495418 - Review Request: python-upoints - Python modules for working with points on Earth
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495418
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-virtualenv-1.3.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4348)
 Tool to create isolated Python environments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner <me at stevemilner.org> - 1.3.3-1
- Updated for upstream release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qlandkartegt-0.11.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4612)
 GPS device mapping tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to 0.11.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 15 2009 Dan Horak <dan[at]danny.cz> 0.11.1-1
- update to 0.11.1
* Tue Mar 10 2009 Dan Horak <dan[at]danny.cz> 0.11.0-1
- update to 0.11.0
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.10.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 quassel-0.4.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4483)
 QT4 Based distrubuted IRC system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release with KDE integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 24 2009 Steven M. Parrish <tuxbrewr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.1-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rapid-photo-downloader-0.0.8-3.b7.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4657)
 Images downloader for external devices
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Rapid Photo Downloader is written by a photographer for professional  and
amateur photographers. Released under the GNU GPL license, it is  designed for
use on the GNOME 2 Desktop. It can download photos from  multiple memory cards
and Portable Storage Devices simultaneously. It  provides a variety of options
for sub-folder creation, image renaming  and backup.  It does not download
images directly from a camera unless the camera  is recognized as an external
drive.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #495420 - Review Request: rapid-photo-downloader - Images downloader for external devices
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495420
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 razertool-0.0.7-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4674)
 Tool for controlling Razer Copperhead(TM) mice
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First successful build for F-11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492479 - Review Request: razertool - Tool for controlling Razer Copperhead mice
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492479
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rednotebook-0.6.7-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4566)
 A desktop diary
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  -
Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rednotebook-0.6.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4518)
 A desktop diary
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sun May 03 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.8-1  -
Updated to new upstream version 0.6.8 * Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.7 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.8-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.8
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rfdump-1.6-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4355)
 RFID tags detector
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Patch to honor $RPM_OPT_FLAGS during build.  - Disable autotools dependency
tracking during build for cleaner build logs    and possible slight build
speedup.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 1.6-4
- Patch to honor $RPM_OPT_FLAGS during build.
- Disable autotools dependency tracking during build for cleaner build logs
  and possible slight build speedup.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497889 - rfdump: $RPM_OPT_FLAGS not used
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497889
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-RedCloth-4.1.9-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4374)
 Textile parser for Ruby
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First official build for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-hoe-1.12.2-1.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-4615)
 Hoe is a simple rake/rubygems helper for project Rakefiles
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Release 1.12.2 of Hoe.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 17 2009 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 1.12.2-1
-Release 1.12.1 of Hoe.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-picnic-0.8.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4420)
 Easier distribution of Camping-based applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip at fedoraproject.org> - 0.8.1-1
- New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-reststop-0.4.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4604)
 Convenient RESTfulness for all your Camping controller needs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.0-1
- New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-rufus-scheduler-1.0.13-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4607)
 Scheduler for Ruby (at, cron and every jobs)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First official build of rubygem-rufus-scheduler.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 safecopy-1.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4582)
 Safe copying of files and partitions
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

safecopy is a data recovery tool which tries to extract as much data  as
possible from a problematic (i.e. damaged sectors) source - like  floppy drives,
harddisk partitions, CDs, tape devices, ..., where  other tools like dd would
fail doe to I/O errors.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #495950 - Review Request: safecopy - Safe copying of files and partitions
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495950
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sakura-2.3.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4633)
 Terminal emulator based on GTK and VTE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Sakura is a terminal emulator based on GTK and VTE. It's a terminal emulator
with few dependencies, so you don't need a full GNOME desktop installed to have
a decent terminal emulator.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496166 - Review Request: sakura - Terminal emulator based on GTK and VTE
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496166
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 slapi-nis-0.15-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4381)
 NIS Server and Schema Compatibility plugins for Directory Server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update expands the functionality of the module by adding the ability to
recursively follow references through the directory, and corrects module bugs
which could lead to server crashes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.15-1
- fix %deref and %referred to fail rather than return a valid-but-empty
  result when they fail to evaluate (reported by Rob Crittenden)
* Wed May  6 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.14-1
- correctly handle being loaded but disabled (#499404)
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.13-1
- update to 0.13, reworking %link() to correct some bugs (#498432)
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.12-1
- correct test suite failures that 0.11 started triggering
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.11-1
- update to 0.11 (#497904)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497904 - Crash on first ypcat
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497904
  [ 2 ] Bug #498432 - deref_r can cause ns-slapd to crash
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498432
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 slv2-0.6.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4508)
 LV2 host library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

  * Add generic query interface to allow arbitrary querying of data    * Combine
similar headers (reduce code duplication)    * Upgrade to waf 1.5.6    * Add man
pages for utilities    * Fix illegal output of slv2_value_get_turtle_token for
floats.    * Fix slv2_plugin_get_value_for_subject    * Add test suite and
coverage instrumentation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget[DOT]fedora[AT]gmail[DOT]com> - 0.6.4-1
- Version update: 0.6.4
- Drop plugininstance patch (upstreamed)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 snobol-4.1.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4653)
 The SNOBOL programming language
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

fix minor bug on UTFLEN()
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 23 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 4.1.2-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sos-1.8-11.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4658)
 A set of tools to gather troubleshooting information from a system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Remove triggering sysrq
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Adam Stokes <ajs at redhat dot com> - 1.8-11
- Remove all instances of sysrq
- Consistent macro usage in spec
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 spamass-milter-0.3.1-14.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4448)
 Milter (mail filter) for spamassassin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes a bug in the milter's Received-header generation that could
lead to false positives from spamassassin, and also adds support for passing
mail from authenticated senders through quickly without being checked.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 24 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 0.3.1-14
- Fix Received-header generation (#496763)
- Add authentication info to dummy Received-header (#496769)
- Add option to skip checks for authenticated senders (#437506, #496767)
  (thanks to Habeeb J. Dihu for the reports and patches)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496763 - spamass-milter generates a broken received header
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496763
  [ 2 ] Bug #496769 - Add support for authentication information in Received header of spamass_milter
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496769
  [ 3 ] Bug #437506 - RFE: Add flag to ignore authenticated senders
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=437506
  [ 4 ] Bug #496767 - spamass-milter generates false positives for authenticated users.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496767
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 spawn-0.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4325)
 Simple tool to run several Linux command-lines in parallel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

spawn is a simple parallel execution utility written to appeal to the Unix
mindset. spawn reads shell command lines from stdin, one per line, and then
executes them as maximum of N child processes in parallel, and waits for  all of
the children to exit.  If a child process fails with a non-zero exit code, no
new children are  spawned. Then spawn waits for all existing children to exit
and returns  the failed exit code.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497705 - Review Request: spawn - Simple tool to run several Linux command-lines in parallel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497705
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sugar-finance-3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4644)
 Financial planning for Sugar
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Mon Apr 20 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 3-1  - Updated to
new upstream version 3  - Removed manual VCS checkout stuff  - Added URL for
Source0  - Added translations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 20 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 3-1
- Updated to new upstream version 3
- Removed manual VCS checkout stuff
- Added URL for Source0
- Added translations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 system-config-boot-0.3.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4321)
 A graphical interface for configuring the boot loader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 24 2009 Harald Hoyer <harald at redhat.com> 0.3.1
- translation updates
- removed kudzu import (bug #473798)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #473798 - fatal error when running system-config-boot
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473798
  [ 2 ] Bug #497088 - crash when starting bootloaderprogram
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497088
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tcpjunk-2.660-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4661)
 TCP protocols testing tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Mon Apr 20 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 2.660-1  -
Updated to new upsteram version 2.660
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 20 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 2.660-1
- Updated to new upsteram version 2.660
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 testdisk-6.11-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4595)
 Tool to check and undelete partition, PhotoRec recovers lost files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

TestDisk 6.11 can undelete files from NTFS partition and recover deleted exFAT.
Over 50 file types have been added to PhotoRec.  TestDisk & PhotoRec 6.11 are
faster than previous versions.  Read
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_6.11_Release for more information
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-3
- Use upstream patch v2
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-2
- Add upstream patch that add missing bound checks when parsing EXIF information
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-1
- Update to latest version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494351 - RFE: Please add PhotoRec to the Summary and %description
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494351
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 timespan-2.1-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4601)
 A tool that performs date-based time calculations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Patch to avoid overriding $CXXFLAGS set by user during build.  - Disable
autotools dependency tracking during build for cleaner build logs    and
possible slight build speedup.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 2.1-3
- Patch to avoid overriding $CXXFLAGS set by user during build.
- Disable autotools dependency tracking during build for cleaner build logs
  and possible slight build speedup.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497883 - timespan: $RPM_OPT_FLAGS not used
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497883
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 trustyrc-0.1.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4329)
 Fully modular IRC robot
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Step to 0.1.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Mar 27 2009 Nicoleau Fabien <nicoleau.fabien at gmail.com> 0.1.3-1
- Rebuild for 0.1.3
- No more sub packages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 waf-1.5.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4414)
 A Python-based build system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 1.5.6, which contains various bug fixes and improvements.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 1.5.6-1
- Update to 1.5.6.
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 1.5.5-1
- Update to 1.5.5.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wammu-0.30.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4494)
 Mobile Phone Manager - Gammu GUI
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 29 2009 Xavier Lamien <lxtnow[at]gmail.com> - 0.30.1-1
- Update release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wavemon-0.6-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4334)
 Ncurses-based monitoring application for wireless network devices
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

wavemon is a wireless device monitoring application that allows you to  watch
all important information like device configuration, encryption,  and power
management parameters and network information at once.  Adaptive level bargraphs
for link quality, signal/noise strength and  signal-to-noise ratio.  The
customizeable "level alarm" feature that   notices the user of changes in signal
level strength audibly and/or  visually. wavemon is able to list of access
points in range and shows  full-screen level histogram displaying signal/noise
levels and SNR.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498805 - Review Request: wavemon - Ncurses-based monitoring application for wireless network devices
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498805
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 weechat-0.2.6.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4634)
 Portable, fast, light and extensible IRC client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  1 2009 Paul P. Komkoff Jr <i at stingr.net> - 0.2.6.2-1
- fix some charset decoding problems.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wormux-0.8.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4349)
 2D convivial mass murder game
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Changes in this release:    - New skins with new animations  - New sounds  -
Better team menu editor  - New game interface  - Small AI enhancements  - Fix
crash when leaving options menu during a game  - Fix crash when checking for new
version without internet connection  - Fix some small graphical bugs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Wart <wart at kobold.org> 0.8.3-1
- Update to 0.8.3
- Make -data subpackage noarch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xcowsay-1.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4473)
 Displays a cute cow and message on your desktop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

xcowsay displays a cute cow and message on your desktop. The message can be text
or images (with xcowdream) xcowsay can run in daemon mode for sending your cow
message with DBus. Inspired by the original cowsay.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492927 - Review Request: xcowsay - xcowsay displays a cute cow and message
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492927
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xfce4-clipman-plugin-1.0.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4380)
 Clipboard manager plugin for the Xfce panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This version is a major rewrite of the plugin using GObjects and Xfconf. The
external plugin is provided as a bundle, it can be added to the Xfce Panel and
executed as a standalone application living inside the notification area.  New
features include 'Actions' to execute commands on specific text selections by
matching them against regexes, the command line tool xfce4-popup-clipman that
can be used in the keyboard settings as a shortcut and documentation in HTML
format.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 21 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 1.0.0-1
- Update to 1.0.0
- Require xfce4-doc
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xmonad-0.8.1-12.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-4600)
 A tiling window manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First Builds
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xmoto-0.5.1-0.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4441)
 Challenging 2D Motocross Platform Game
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream, minor bugfixes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 14 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> 0.5.1-0
- New upstream.
- Dropped opengldepth patch, applied upstream.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xplanet-1.2.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4457)
 Render a planetary image into an X window
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version 1.2.1 is released.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 23 2009 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 1.2.1-1
- 1.2.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ykclient-2.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4356)
 Yubikey management library and client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of ykclient for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498276 - Review Request: ykclient - Yubikey management library and client
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498276
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Sat May  9 04:27:22 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 04:27:22 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090509042722.9833710F959@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    ORBit-0.5.17-26.fc10
    anki-0.9.9.7.8-2.fc10
    bittorrent-4.4.0-12.fc10
    cas-0.14-10.fc10
    cups-1.3.10-5.fc10
    glib-1.2.10-32.fc10
    gnome-libs-1.4.2-14.fc10
    gperiodic-2.0.10-6.fc10
    grfcodec-0.9.11-0.2.r2111.fc10
    gtk+-1.2.10-68.fc10
    imlib-1.9.15-11.fc10
    kerneloops-0.12-2.fc10
    libglade-0.17-23.fc10
    libxml-1.8.17-22.fc10
    manaworld-0.0.28.1-1.fc10
    pdftk-1.41-19.fc10
    perl-Config-INI-0.014-1.fc10
    perl-File-Flock-2008.01-1.fc10
    perl-HTML-WikiConverter-0.68-1.fc10
    perl-JSON-RPC-0.96-2.fc10
    perl-Locale-PO-0.21-1.fc10
    qca2-2.0.2-1.fc10
    rubygem-cobbler-1.6.0-1.fc10
    slv2-0.6.4-1.fc10
    sos-1.8-11.fc10
    testdisk-6.11-3.fc10
    viewvc-1.0.8-1.fc10
    wavemon-0.6-2.fc10
    weechat-0.2.6.2-1.fc10
    wormux-0.8.3-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 ORBit-0.5.17-26.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4610)
 CORBA Object Request Broker for GNOME-1 compatibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.     For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr  9 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:0.5.17-26
- Fix undefined non-weak symbols in libORBit and libORBitCosNaming
- Use an alternative approach to rpath-fixing - hacking the supplied libtool
  rather than trying to use the system one
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:0.5.17-25
- Specify Instruction Set Architecture (%{?_isa}) in devel package requires
- Buildreq glibc-static for test code in bundled popt library (F-11 onwards)
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1:0.5.17-24
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 anki-0.9.9.7.8-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4464)
 Flashcard program for using space repetition learning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.8 with lots of bug fixes and minor
enhancements.    The full changelog can be found here:
http://ichi2.net/anki/download/index.html#changes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.8-2
- Updated noupdate patch
* Wed May  6 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.8-1
- Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bittorrent-4.4.0-12.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4411)
 BitTorrent swarming network file transfer tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update should resolve KeyError tracebacks from the tracker service
(#451496)    There are also additional categories FileTransfer and P2P in the
GUI's desktop file (#487789), and the menu icon for the GUI client is restored
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 24 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 4.4.0-12
- Add icon back in menu entry
* Mon Apr  6 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 4.4.0-11
- Add support for floating point values in bencode (#451496), resolving
  tracebacks with KeyError: <type 'float'>
  (thanks to Oleg Aprotskiy for the patch)
- Don't apply format string patch; it serves no purpose really
- Fix for KeyError: 'max_incomplete' in tracker (#451496)
- Define RPM macros in global context in spec file
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 4.4.0-10
- Fix syntax issues causing failure to build for Fedora 11
- Update format strings to enable re-ordering of parameters in translations
- Add additional categories FileTransfer and P2P in desktop entry (#487789)
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.0-9
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 4.4.0-8
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #451496 - bittorrent tracker fails to track (with traceback)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451496
  [ 2 ] Bug #487789 - .desktop menu entry has wrong/missing categories
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487789
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cas-0.14-10.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4552)
 Tool to analyze and configure core file environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New release, extended documentation, maintenance capabilities, snippet support.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Adam Stokes <ajs at redhat dot com> - 0.14-8
- support for purging old data
- documentation updated to reflect updated workflow and describe
  new features.
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Adam Stokes <ajs at redhat dot com> - 0.14-2
- Finalizing sqlite implementation
- added AUTHORS
* Thu Apr  2 2009 Scott Dodson <sdodson at sdodson dot com > - 0.14-1
- Spec file changes to handle the snippets directory
- Snippets support to replace hardcoding crash input cmds
* Wed Feb 11 2009 Adam Stokes <ajs at redhat dot com> - 0.13-120
- added proper documentation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cups-1.3.10-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4056)
 Common Unix Printing System
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes three problems introduced in the previous update.  The more
strict requirement for clients to include a printer-uri attribute in IPP-Get-
Jobs IPP requests has been temporarily relaxed until older clients have been
fixed.  The hostname checking did not accept the "ServerName" value if not also
listed as an alias.  The IPv6 address "::1" was not accepted as a valid Host:
value for a local connection.    It also adds a line to /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to
disable validity checking of the HTTP Host header for incoming connections, if
no server aliases have yet been defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1:1.3.10-5
- Restart cupsd if "ServerAlias *" is added to cupsd.conf
  (bug #497354).
- Ship "ServerAlias *" in cupsd.conf.default configuration file as
  well (bug #498884).
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1:1.3.10-4
- Adjust cupsd.conf by adding "ServerAlias *" automatically on upgrade
  (part of bug #497301).  The default cupsd.conf now includes this
  line as well.
* Sun Apr 26 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1:1.3.10-2
- Accept "Host: ::1" (bug #497393).
- Accept Host: fields set to the ServerName value (bug #497301).
- Temporarily relax requirement to have printer-uri attribute in
  IPP-Get-Jobs request (bug #497519).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497301 - Cannot print remotely
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497301
  [ 2 ] Bug #497393 - cannot print after cups upgrade
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497393
  [ 3 ] Bug #497519 - lpq -a from RHEL remote clients failure
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497519
  [ 4 ] Bug #497354 - system-config-printer does not publish my shared printers
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497354
  [ 5 ] Bug #498884 - cups rejects access from non-localhost
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498884
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 glib-1.2.10-32.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4610)
 A library of handy utility functions
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.     For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 17 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:1.2.10-32
- remove redundant linkage of libgmodule to libgthread
- cosmetic spec changes
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> 1:1.2.10-31
- rebuild for pkgconfig deps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnome-libs-1.4.2-14.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4610)
 The main GNOME1 libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.     For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr  9 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:1.4.2-14
- Use an alternative approach to rpath-fixing - hacking the supplied libtool
  rather than trying to use the system one
- Additional %{?_isa} devel package dependencies now available
- Clean up library linkage, linking libraries with the libs they need and only
  those libs
- Fix config.guess and config.sub to support build on ppc64
* Thu Mar  5 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:1.4.2-13
- Provide pkgconfig(gnomeui) needed to satisfy autogenerated dependency in
  libglade and possibly other packages built on gnome-libs; an actual .pc file
  isn't needed because pkg-config knows to use gnome-config for this
- Weed out redundant -L%{_libdir} options from gnome-config output
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> 1:1.4.2-12
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Nov 20 2008 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:1.4.2-11
- Specify Instruction Set Architecture (%{?_isa}) in devel package requires
  (where available)
- BerkeleyDB source moved to download.oracle.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gperiodic-2.0.10-6.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4671)
 Program for browsing the periodic table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 2.0.10-6
- Patch to build with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS.
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 2.0.10-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499695 - gperiodic not built with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499695
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 grfcodec-0.9.11-0.2.r2111.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4397)
 A suite of programs to modify Transport Tycoon Deluxe's GRF files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498744 - Review Request: grfcodec - A suite of programs to modify Transport Tycoon Deluxe's GRF files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498744
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gtk+-1.2.10-68.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4610)
 The GIMP ToolKit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.     For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 17 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:1.2.10-68
- remove unused shared library dependencies
- use install -p to maintain timestamps where reasonable
- recode docs as UTF-8
- cosmetic spec changes
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> 1:1.2.10-67
- rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 imlib-1.9.15-11.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4610)
 An image loading and rendering library for X11R6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.     For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr  1 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:1.9.15-11
- add libXt-devel dependency for -devel package (#478357)
- use install -p to maintain timestamps where reasonable
- use an alternative approach to rpath-fixing - hacking the supplied libtool
  rather than trying to use the system one
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> 1:1.9.15-10
- rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kerneloops-0.12-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4471)
 Tool to automatically collect and submit kernel crash signatures
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Add logging the URL of the most recently submitted oops report to the system log
after submitting a batch of reports.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>  0.12-2
- Log the URL of the last patch submitted to the system log (#469407)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #469407 - Kernel Oops Doesn't Provide URL for Oops Report
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469407
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libglade-0.17-23.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4610)
 Gnome-1 support library for loading user interfaces
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.     For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 20 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:0.17-23
- use an alternative approach to rpath-fixing - hacking the supplied libtool
  rather than trying to use the system one
- specify Instruction Set Architecture (%{?_isa}) in devel package requires
- link against the libs that are needed, and only those libs
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1:0.17-22
- rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libxml-1.8.17-22.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4610)
 Old XML library for Gnome-1 application compatibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.     For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 20 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:1.8.17-22
- rebuild for %{_isa} provides/requires
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1:1.8.17-21
- rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 manaworld-0.0.28.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4454)
 2D MMORPG world
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update contains updated translations for German, Spanish, Finnish, Swedish
and Polish
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Wart <wart at kobold.org> 0.0.28.1-1
- Update to 0.0.28.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pdftk-1.41-19.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4621)
 The PDF Tool Kit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Remove a workaround which was required for a broken gcj release. This cause a
better optimization of the compiled code.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 1.41-19
- Remove workaround for broken gcj
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 1.41-18
- Add bcprov and bcmail to classpath patch (BZ #497986)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Config-INI-0.014-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4667)
 Config::INI Perl module
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497465 - Review Request: perl-Config-INI - Config::INI Perl module
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497465
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-File-Flock-2008.01-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4339)
 File locking with flock
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTML-WikiConverter-0.68-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4513)
 Perl module to convert HTML to wiki markup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499093 - Review Request: perl-HTML-WikiConverter - Perl module to convert HTML to wiki markup
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499093
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-JSON-RPC-0.96-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4493)
 Perl implementation of JSON-RPC 1.1 protocol
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Locale-PO-0.21-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4335)
 Perl module for manipulating .po entries from GNU gettext
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499087 - Review Request: perl-Locale-PO - Perl module for manipulating .po entries from GNU gettext
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499087
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qca2-2.0.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4530)
 Qt Cryptographic Architecture
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Minor bugfix-update improving qt 4.5 compatibility.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Sven Lankes <sven at lank.es> - 2.0.2-1
- new upstream release - qt 4.5-compat-fixes
* Wed Apr  8 2009 Sven Lankes <sven at lank.es> - 2.0.1-1
- new upstream release
- removed 64bit patch - now upstream
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 2.0.0-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497950 - psi  0.12.1 not able to connect on fedora 9
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497950
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-cobbler-1.6.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4379)
 An interface for interacting with a Cobbler server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Release 1.6.0 of the Cobbler ruby bindings.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 1.6.0-1
- Dropped support for pre-1.6 instances of Cobbler.
* Tue Nov  4 2008 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 0.1.3-1
- Fix to saves for images.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 slv2-0.6.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4602)
 LV2 host library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

  * Add generic query interface to allow arbitrary querying of data    * Combine
similar headers (reduce code duplication)    * Upgrade to waf 1.5.6    * Add man
pages for utilities    * Fix illegal output of slv2_value_get_turtle_token for
floats.    * Fix slv2_plugin_get_value_for_subject    * Add test suite and
coverage instrumentation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget[DOT]fedora[AT]gmail[DOT]com> - 0.6.4-1
- Version update: 0.6.4
- Drop plugininstance patch (upstreamed)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sos-1.8-11.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4573)
 A set of tools to gather troubleshooting information from a system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Remove triggering sysrq
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Adam Stokes <ajs at redhat dot com> - 1.8-11
- Remove all instances of sysrq
- Consistent macro usage in spec
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.8-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 testdisk-6.11-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4659)
 Tool to check and undelete partition, PhotoRec recovers lost files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

TestDisk 6.11 can undelete files from NTFS partition and recover deleted exFAT.
Over 50 file types have been added to PhotoRec.  TestDisk & PhotoRec 6.11 are
faster than previous versions.  Read
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_6.11_Release for more information
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-3
- Use upstream patch v2
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-2
- Add upstream patch that add missing bound checks when parsing EXIF information
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Christophe Grenier <grenier at cgsecurity.org> 6.11-1
- Update to latest version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494351 - RFE: Please add PhotoRec to the Summary and %description
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494351
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 viewvc-1.0.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4557)
 Browser interface for CVS and SVN version control repositories
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- fix directory view sorting UI  - tolerate malformed Accept-Language headers
(issue #396)  - fix directory log views in revision-less Subversion repositories
- fix exception in rev-sorted remote Subversion directory views (issue #409)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Bojan Smojver <bojan at rexursive.com> - 1.0.8-1
- Bump up to 1.0.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wavemon-0.6-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4357)
 Ncurses-based monitoring application for wireless network devices
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

wavemon is a wireless device monitoring application that allows you to  watch
all important information like device configuration, encryption,  and power
management parameters and network information at once.  Adaptive level bargraphs
for link quality, signal/noise strength and  signal-to-noise ratio.  The
customizeable "level alarm" feature that   notices the user of changes in signal
level strength audibly and/or  visually. wavemon is able to list of access
points in range and shows  full-screen level histogram displaying signal/noise
levels and SNR.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498805 - Review Request: wavemon - Ncurses-based monitoring application for wireless network devices
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498805
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 weechat-0.2.6.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4449)
 Portable, fast, light and extensible IRC client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  1 2009 Paul P. Komkoff Jr <i at stingr.net> - 0.2.6.2-1
- fix some charset decoding problems.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wormux-0.8.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4318)
 2D convivial mass murder game
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Changes in this release:    - New skins with new animations  - New sounds  -
Better team menu editor  - New game interface  - Small AI enhancements  - Fix
crash when leaving options menu during a game  - Fix crash when checking for new
version without internet connection  - Fix some small graphical bugs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Wart <wart at kobold.org> 0.8.3-1
- Update to 0.8.3
- Make -data subpackage noarch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Sat May  9 08:35:07 2009
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike Cloaked)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 01:35:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: F10 kernel update - when?
Message-ID: <23458438.post@talk.nabble.com>


I note that kernel-2.6.29.2-52.fc10
was submitted for stable on the 5th May - see
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-4132

Yet in the latest batch of updates there appears to be no kernel update? 
Anyone know why the new kernel has not been pushed?
-- 
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/F10-kernel-update---when--tp23458438p23458438.html
Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sat May  9 10:13:55 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 06:13:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: is there an issue with USB-serial converter support?
In-Reply-To: <4A04F1A2.70505@speakeasy.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905081938440.31145@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A04F1A2.70505@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905090609120.14229@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 8 May 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:

> I do not have a problem with FTDI-based UARTs like the FT232R
> devices. I've been merrily programming Arduino devices on F11 using
> the FTDI uarts. I think the PL2303 you have is also known as the
> Dynex USB-to-Serial converter, and I have one of those. I'll give it
> a try tomorrow.
>
> It could be that the PL2303 need a kernel config turned on. But when
> I've used (what I think are) equivalent devices in the past, they
> have always worked great in Fedora kernels.
>
> Please note that my username belongs to all of these groups:
>
> uucp
> dialout <--- this one is important in F11 for /dev/ttyUSBn
> lock
> wheel
>
> I was getting nastygrams from Arduino's IDE until I updated my group
> memberships.
>
> Bob

  keep in mind that, at least from what i've seen, i'm not getting any
complaints from anything when i plug in the converter.
/var/log/messages shows nothing out of the ordinary, i simply get junk
in my minicom session.

  using a targus port replicator with a built in converter works fine,
it's just that prolific technology converter that seems to cause
grief.  i may buy another brand to see if that makes any difference.

rday

p.s.  both solutions require the usbserial module, but the targus uses
the mct_u232 on top of that, while the PL converter uses pl2303.  if
you have a device that uses the pl2303 module, i'd be interested in
knowing if that works.

>
>
> Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >   here's what's happening.  f11 x86_64 updated beta, connected to an
> > embedded (beagleboard) system thusly:
> >
> >   host USB port <->
> >     regular USB cable <->
> >       targus port replicator with serial port <->
> >         null modem cable <->
> >           everex PC AT cable (DB9 to 10-pin connector)
> >
> > works fine -- minicom at 115200 8N1, no flow control, and device file
> > /dev/ttyUSB0.  when i plug it in, my host /var/log/messages appears
> > thusly:
> >
> > ay  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: new full speed USB device
> > using ohci_hcd and address 74
> > May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: New USB device found,
> > idVendor=0711, idProduct=0230
> > May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: New USB device strings:
> > Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
> > May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: Manufacturer: USB-RS232
> > Interface Converter
> > May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: SerialNumber: 204395
> > May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: configuration #1 chosen
> > from 1 choice
> > May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: mct_u232 2-1.4:1.0: MCT U232
> > converter detected
> > May  8 19:47:19 localhost kernel: usb 2-1.4: MCT U232 converter now
> > attached to ttyUSB0
> > May  8 19:47:19 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (ttyUSB0): ignoring
> > due to lack of mobile broadband capabilties
> >
> > looks good, and i'm connected to the console on the beagle board.
> >
> >   what i want to do now is replace the clunky targus port replicator
> > with a USB-serial converter to give me:
> >
> >   host USB port <->
> >     no-name USB-serial converter cable <->
> >       null modem cable <->
> >         everex PC AT cable (DB9 to 10-pin connector)
> >
> > but i've yet to get that to work properly.  when i plug in the
> > converter, i get:
> >
> > May  8 19:57:21 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device
> > using ohci_hcd and address 78
> > May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: New USB device found,
> > idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303
> > May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: New USB device strings:
> > Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> > May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: Product: USB-Serial
> > Controller
> > May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: Manufacturer: Prolific
> > Technology Inc.
> > May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen
> > from 1 choice
> > May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: pl2303 2-1:1.0: pl2303 converter
> > detected
> > May  8 19:57:22 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: pl2303 converter now
> > attached to ttyUSB0
> > May  8 19:57:22 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (ttyUSB0): ignoring
> > due to lack of mobile broadband capabilties
> >
> >   except that what i see in minicom is crap -- lots of unprintable
> > characters, as if it's running at the wrong baud rate or something.  i
> > didn't do anything special when i plugged in the converter, and here's
> > the first few lines from "modinfo pl2303":
> >
> > filename:
> > /lib/modules/2.6.29.2-129.fc11.x86_64/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/pl2303.ko
> > license:        GPL
> > description:    Prolific PL2303 USB to serial adaptor driver
> > srcversion:     EF203DC966F54AFA826B33F
> > ...
> >
> >   is there a known issue with USB-serial converters?  i just noticed
> > that that module has a single load-time parameter:
> >
> > debug:Debug enabled or not (bool)
> >
> > so i guess i can try that next and see what happens.  but i was
> > expecting this to work right out of the box, as they say.
> >
> > rday
> > --
> >
> > ========================================================================
> > Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
> >
> >         Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.
> >
> > Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
> > Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
> > Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
> > ========================================================================
> >
> >
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sat May  9 10:15:16 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 06:15:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: is there an issue with USB-serial converter support?
In-Reply-To: <4A04F1A2.70505@speakeasy.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905081938440.31145@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A04F1A2.70505@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905090614390.14229@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 8 May 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:

> Please note that my username belongs to all of these groups:
>
> uucp
> dialout <--- this one is important in F11 for /dev/ttyUSBn
> lock
> wheel
>
> I was getting nastygrams from Arduino's IDE until I updated my group
> memberships.

  i'm running minicom as root so that shouldn't make any difference,
right?

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sat May  9 11:17:03 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 13:17:03 +0200
Subject: F10 kernel update - when?
References: <23458438.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <gu3onf$st$2@ger.gmane.org>

Mike Cloaked wrote:
> Yet in the latest batch of updates there appears to be no kernel update?
> Anyone know why the new kernel has not been pushed?

The push request was apparently revoked.

        Kevin Kofler



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sat May  9 12:52:43 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat,  9 May 2009 12:52:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090509 changes
Message-ID: <20090509125243.C115A1B8003@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sat May  9 06:15:03 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

NetworkManager-0.7.1-4.git20090414.fc11
---------------------------------------
* Tue May 05 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1:0.7.1-4.git20090414
- nm-save-the-leases.patch: Use per-connection lease files, and don't delete
  them on interface deactivate.


Terminal-0.2.12-1.fc11
----------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 0.2.12-1
- Update to 0.2.12


Thunar-1.0.1-1.fc11
-------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 1.0.1-1
- Update to 1.0.1


astronomy-backgrounds-1.0-2.fc11
--------------------------------
* Fri May 08 2009 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.0-2
- Fix installation of all files.
- Fix file/dir conflict (#496905).


cups-1.4-0.b2.16.fc11
---------------------
* Thu May 07 2009 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 1:1.4-0.b2.16
- Avoid stripping binaries before rpmbuild creates the -debuginfo subpackage.


exo-0.3.101-1.fc11
------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 0.3.101-1
- Update to 0.3.101


fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090508-1.fc11
----------------------------------------
* Fri May 08 2009 Behdad Esfahbod <besfahbo at redhat.com> - 2.6.99.behdad.20090508-1
- Update to 2.6.99.behdad.20090508
- Resolves #497984


libxfce4menu-4.6.1-1.fc11
-------------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 4.6.1-1
- Update to 4.6.1


libxfce4util-4.6.1-1.fc11
-------------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 4.6.1-1
- Update to 4.6.1


libxfcegui4-4.6.1-1.fc11
------------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 4.6.1-1
- Update to 4.6.1


parted-1.8.8-17.fc11
--------------------
* Fri May 08 2009 Joel Granados <jgranado at redhat.com> - 1.8.8-17
- Be consistent in the creation of metadata partitions for msdos labels (#498137)


plymouth-0.7.0-0.2009.05.08.1.fc11
----------------------------------
* Fri May 08 2009 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.7.0-0.2009.05.08.1
- Update to "plugin-rework" branch from git


xfce-utils-4.6.1-1.fc11
-----------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 4.6.1-1
- Update to 4.6.1


xfce4-appfinder-4.6.1-1.fc11
----------------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 4.6.1-1
- Update to 4.6.1


xfce4-mixer-4.6.1-1.fc11
------------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 4.6.1-1
- Update to 4.6.1


xfce4-panel-4.6.1-1.fc11
------------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 4.6.1-1
- Update to 4.6.1


xfce4-settings-4.6.1-1.fc11
---------------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 4.6.1-1
- Update to 4.6.1


xfconf-4.6.1-1.fc11
-------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 4.6.1-1
- Update to 4.6.1


xfdesktop-4.6.1-1.fc11
----------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 4.6.1-1
- Update to 4.6.1


xfwm4-4.6.1-1.fc11
------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi <kevin at tummy.com> - 4.6.1-1
- Update to 4.6.1


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.12.2-13.fc11
-------------------------------
* Thu May 07 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 6.12.2-13
- radeon-6.12.2-lvds-default-modes.patch: Add default modes to the LVDS mode
  list if we got no EDID from the kernel.

* Wed May 06 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.12.2-12
- radeon-6.12.2-rs690-hack.patch - workaround rs690 hangs with firefox safely


xorg-x11-drv-savage-2.2.1-1.fc11
--------------------------------
* Fri May 08 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 2.2.1-1
- savage 2.2.1


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 22









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sat May  9 13:02:56 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 09:02:56 -0400
Subject: Thank Heavens For Xorg Updates!
Message-ID: <4A057F00.8020908@speakeasy.net>

After being without X in Fedora 11 for a few days, updating to 
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-34.20090507git1072103.fc11.x86_64 and seeing 
X come back up is like having an old friend at the front door...

Bob



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May  9 13:09:58 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 09:09:58 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <15173.1241817386@sss.pgh.pa.us>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>
	<5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>	<1241448549.2726.40.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<5256d0b0905040758w6ef5f0d5r8a715092a05f6737@mail.gmail.com>	<1241450430.2726.44.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<1241794304.2601.33.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<11121.1241806015@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<4A0485E5.7050405@tmr.com> <15173.1241817386@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Message-ID: <4A0580A6.9070700@tmr.com>

Tom Lane wrote:
> Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> writes:
>> Tom Lane wrote:
>>> Now, if only the X11 guys would fix my other problem (#494420) ...
>>> the text-only install mode leaves a lot to be desired in terms of
>>> flexibility.
>>>
>> Have you tried booting with "vga=ask" yet? That works for me, even on my problem 
>> system.
> 
> Hmm, as a boot option you mean?  Doesn't seem to do anything at all,
> I still see just the same behavior as with no option.  Thanks for
> suggesting something though ...
> 
Using the "vga=ask" option on the boot line should give you something like the 
attached, from FC11snap+rawhide as of 24 hrs ago.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: ask.png
Type: image/png
Size: 90118 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090509/993b2678/attachment.png>

From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May  9 13:57:53 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 09:57:53 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>
	<5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Message-ID: <4A058BE1.8060901@tmr.com>

Tom Lane wrote:
> "Wolfgang S. Rupprecht" <wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com> writes:
>> Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic at gmail.com> writes:
>>> http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-11-fail-because-of-anaconda/
> 
>> The x86_64 Preview doesn't run here.
> 
> The PPC port has also gone largely untested, because it's impossible
> to install it on Apple-based hardware (and how many of us own any other
> kind of PPC?), thanks to this still-unaddressed bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492154
> 
> I don't have any warm fuzzies about how good F11 is going to be;
> I'm afraid that anaconda's instability has blocked a lot of the
> testing we'd normally get.
> 
My post about "custom install" is just a similar instance, I have been using the 
32 bit install heavily, but the only available machines for 64 bit testing 
require a custom install to slide the new release into a complex existing disk 
configuration.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From tgl at redhat.com  Sat May  9 14:12:00 2009
From: tgl at redhat.com (Tom Lane)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 10:12:00 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :( 
In-Reply-To: <4A0580A6.9070700@tmr.com> 
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>
	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com> <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241448549.2726.40.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040758w6ef5f0d5r8a715092a05f6737@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241450430.2726.44.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<1241794304.2601.33.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<11121.1241806015@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4A0485E5.7050405@tmr.com>
	<15173.1241817386@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4A0580A6.9070700@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <5699.1241878320@sss.pgh.pa.us>

Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> Hmm, as a boot option you mean?  Doesn't seem to do anything at all,
>> I still see just the same behavior as with no option.  Thanks for
>> suggesting something though ...
>> 
> Using the "vga=ask" option on the boot line should give you something like the 
> attached, from FC11snap+rawhide as of 24 hrs ago.

[ shrug... ]  I repeat that it has no visible effect, at least not
when trying to boot yesterday's rawhide boot.iso on my ancient
Powerbook G3 laptop.  Should I be filing a bug, or is that option
only supported on Intel-ish machines?

			regards, tom lane



From email at jbergmann.de  Sat May  9 14:22:06 2009
From: email at jbergmann.de (Joerg Bergmann)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 16:22:06 +0200
Subject: GPSMAN
Message-ID: <4A05918E.40100@jbergmann.de>

I have connected a yellow etrex via a dedicated USB-to-serial
connector. While connecting, GPSMAN shows an error

bad option "-mode": should be one of -blocking, -buffering, -buffersize, 
-encoding, -eofchar, or -translation
bad option "-mode": should be one of -blocking, -buffering, -buffersize, 
-encoding, -eofchar, or -translation
     while executing
"fconfigure $SRLFILE -blocking 0 -mode $baud,n,8,1  -translation binary"
     (procedure "OpenSerialFailed" line 13)
     invoked from within
"OpenSerialFailed $baud"
     (procedure "GPSConnection" line 29)
     invoked from within
"GPSConnection EnableGPS"
     (procedure "CheckGPS" line 7)
     invoked from within
"CheckGPS "
     invoked from within
".rcw.fr.frgps.bs.state invoke"
     ("uplevel" body line 1)
     invoked from within
"uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]"
     (procedure "tk::ButtonUp" line 22)
     invoked from within
"tk::ButtonUp .rcw.fr.frgps.bs.state"
     (command bound to event)

How to proceed?

Thanks for an answer.



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May  9 14:22:34 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 10:22:34 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <5699.1241878320@sss.pgh.pa.us>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>
	<5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>	<1241446246.2726.2.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<5256d0b0905040715t4a5331dcp7d2f48c6cafb12e@mail.gmail.com>	<1241448549.2726.40.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<5256d0b0905040758w6ef5f0d5r8a715092a05f6737@mail.gmail.com>	<1241450430.2726.44.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<1241794304.2601.33.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<11121.1241806015@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<4A0485E5.7050405@tmr.com>	<15173.1241817386@sss.pgh.pa.us>
	<4A0580A6.9070700@tmr.com> <5699.1241878320@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Message-ID: <4A0591AA.2020806@tmr.com>

Tom Lane wrote:
> Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> writes:
>> Tom Lane wrote:
>>> Hmm, as a boot option you mean?  Doesn't seem to do anything at all,
>>> I still see just the same behavior as with no option.  Thanks for
>>> suggesting something though ...
>>>
>> Using the "vga=ask" option on the boot line should give you something like the 
>> attached, from FC11snap+rawhide as of 24 hrs ago.
> 
> [ shrug... ]  I repeat that it has no visible effect, at least not
> when trying to boot yesterday's rawhide boot.iso on my ancient
> Powerbook G3 laptop.  Should I be filing a bug, or is that option
> only supported on Intel-ish machines?
> 
If you didn't get a warn that the option was unknown, then I would file a bug. I 
no longer have any Power or SPARC hardware, ran out of floor space and time to use.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From email at jbergmann.de  Sat May  9 14:25:54 2009
From: email at jbergmann.de (Joerg Bergmann)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 16:25:54 +0200
Subject: GPSMAN (sorry, forgot F9)
Message-ID: <4A059272.7060706@jbergmann.de>

System is fedora9.

I have connected a yellow etrex via a dedicated USB-to-serial
connector. While connecting, GPSMAN shows an error

bad option "-mode": should be one of -blocking, -buffering, -buffersize,
-encoding, -eofchar, or -translation
bad option "-mode": should be one of -blocking, -buffering, -buffersize,
-encoding, -eofchar, or -translation
     while executing
"fconfigure $SRLFILE -blocking 0 -mode $baud,n,8,1  -translation binary"
     (procedure "OpenSerialFailed" line 13)
     invoked from within
"OpenSerialFailed $baud"
     (procedure "GPSConnection" line 29)
     invoked from within
"GPSConnection EnableGPS"
     (procedure "CheckGPS" line 7)
     invoked from within
"CheckGPS "
     invoked from within
".rcw.fr.frgps.bs.state invoke"
     ("uplevel" body line 1)
     invoked from within
"uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]"
     (procedure "tk::ButtonUp" line 22)
     invoked from within
"tk::ButtonUp .rcw.fr.frgps.bs.state"
     (command bound to event)

How to proceed?

Thanks for an answer.

-- 
fedora-test-list mailing list
fedora-test-list at redhat.com
To unsubscribe:
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list



From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Sat May  9 15:16:15 2009
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike Cloaked)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 08:16:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: F10 kernel update - when?
In-Reply-To: <gu3onf$st$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <23458438.post@talk.nabble.com> <gu3onf$st$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <23461480.post@talk.nabble.com>




Kevin Kofler wrote:
> 
> 
> The push request was apparently revoked.
> 
>         Kevin Kofler
> 
> 

Was there a major problem with that kernel?
-- 
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/F10-kernel-update---when--tp23458438p23461480.html
Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Sat May  9 15:23:08 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 08:23:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: F10 kernel update - when?
In-Reply-To: <23461480.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <905963.31442.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>



> Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > The push request was apparently revoked.
> > 
> >         Kevin Kofler
> > 
> > 
> 
> Was there a major problem with that kernel?
> -- 



I have not seen/heard any complaints from it on test-list, I wonder what is wrong with this kernel too?

I am running it and only have ISSUES, but because of other proprietary stuff but not with the kernel itself :(

[olivares at localhost ~]$ cat /etc/fedora-release 
Fedora release 10 (Cambridge)
[olivares at localhost ~]$ uname -r
2.6.29.2-52.fc10.i686




      



From email at jbergmann.de  Sat May  9 15:32:13 2009
From: email at jbergmann.de (Joerg Bergmann)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 17:32:13 +0200
Subject: GPSMAN
In-Reply-To: <4A059272.7060706@jbergmann.de>
References: <4A059272.7060706@jbergmann.de>
Message-ID: <4A05A1FD.3010504@jbergmann.de>

Having patched serial.tcl, the error changes:

error flushing "file4": I/O error
error flushing "file4": I/O error
     while executing
"flush $SRLFILE"
     (procedure "DoSendSPacket" line 37)
     invoked from within
"DoSendSPacket"
     (procedure "SendSPacket" line 37)
     invoked from within
"$ProcSendPacket PrdReq $PDTYPE(PrdReq) 0"
     (procedure "SendData" line 25)
     invoked from within
"SendData product"
     ("after" script)

Any hints?

Joerg Bergmann schrieb:
> System is fedora9.
> 
> I have connected a yellow etrex via a dedicated USB-to-serial
> connector. While connecting, GPSMAN shows an error
> 
> bad option "-mode": should be one of -blocking, -buffering, -buffersize,
> -encoding, -eofchar, or -translation
> bad option "-mode": should be one of -blocking, -buffering, -buffersize,
> -encoding, -eofchar, or -translation
>     while executing
> "fconfigure $SRLFILE -blocking 0 -mode $baud,n,8,1  -translation binary"
>     (procedure "OpenSerialFailed" line 13)
>     invoked from within
> "OpenSerialFailed $baud"
>     (procedure "GPSConnection" line 29)
>     invoked from within
> "GPSConnection EnableGPS"
>     (procedure "CheckGPS" line 7)
>     invoked from within
> "CheckGPS "
>     invoked from within
> ".rcw.fr.frgps.bs.state invoke"
>     ("uplevel" body line 1)
>     invoked from within
> "uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]"
>     (procedure "tk::ButtonUp" line 22)
>     invoked from within
> "tk::ButtonUp .rcw.fr.frgps.bs.state"
>     (command bound to event)
> 
> How to proceed?
> 
> Thanks for an answer.
> 



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May  9 17:49:41 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 13:49:41 -0400
Subject: "custom install" issues
Message-ID: <4A05C235.2070805@tmr.com>

This isn't only an FC11 question, but I hit it trying to add FC11-x86_64 to a 
laptop. Since then I have come to suspect that the 32 bit version might not have 
the problem...


First question, just for curiosity, what is the software which runs the
partitioning, raid creation, LVM, etc, during an install? Is it something I
know, run with options to look different or only available at install time?

In any case, here's the problem: I have a system I want to use for a dual boot
install. It's partitioned as thus:
   sda1	application reserved
   sda2	was VISTA
   sda3	boot
   sda4	extended
   sda5	 swap
   sda6	 root
   sda7	 home

I want to install a new release on sda2, but I can't put the boot in an lv, so I
need a boot and then sda2 can be a pv som I can have my root, home, and
application pieces.

What I tried was to shrink the partition sda7 by 100MB (lots of free room), but
that doesn't seem to free any space of a boot sda8 at the end of the extended.
The current install, FC10, is production 32 bit, and I can't mess that up.

Is there some secret way to tell the installer that shrinking the sda7 makes
room for sda8? I can install on a USB key, but that's not the object, not is
making the whole sda2 ext3 instead of ext4, which will make performance
comparisons meaningless.

Ideas?
-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

-- 
fedora-list mailing list
fedora-list at redhat.com
To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sat May  9 17:58:44 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 13:58:44 -0400
Subject: Starting xawtv Successfully in Fedora 11
Message-ID: <4A05C454.1020805@speakeasy.net>

How do I deal with this problem in Fedora 11:

$ xawtv -hwscan
This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/x86_64 (2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64)
looking for available devices
/dev/video0: OK                         [ -device /dev/video0 ]
     type : v4l2
     name : Laptop_Integrated_Webcam_0.3M
     flags:  capture

------------------------------

$ xawtv -device /dev/video0
This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/x86_64 (2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64)
xinerama 0: 1600x1200+0+0
xinerama 1: 1280x800+0+0
WARNING: No DGA support available for this display.
/dev/video0 [v4l2]: no overlay support
v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
Warning: Cannot convert string "7x13bold" to type FontStruct
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Cannot convert string 
"-*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*,           
-*-courier-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*,          
-gnu-unifont-bold-r-normal--16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*,        
-efont-biwidth-bold-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,                 
-*-*-bold-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-m-*-*-*,                 
-*-*-bold-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*,                         
-*-*-*-*-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" to type FontSet
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
Error: Aborting: no fontset found

----------------------------

$ rpm -q xawtv
xawtv-3.95-11.fc11.x86_64
[rlc at deafeng3 ~]$


Do I need to separately install the tv-fonts mentioned here:

http://linux.bytesex.org/xawtv/tvfonts.html

Thanks

Bob



From caf at omen.com  Sat May  9 18:01:34 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 11:01:34 -0700
Subject: Progress Display in add/remove Software Missing.
Message-ID: <4A05C4FE.6060504@omen.com>

For those of us without 100 mbps internet connections,
please re-enable the progress display in the software
add function

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May  9 18:54:51 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 14:54:51 -0400
Subject: Starting xawtv Successfully in Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A05C454.1020805@speakeasy.net>
References: <4A05C454.1020805@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <4A05D17B.70604@tmr.com>

Robert L Cochran wrote:
> How do I deal with this problem in Fedora 11:
> 
> $ xawtv -hwscan
> This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/x86_64 (2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64)
> looking for available devices
> /dev/video0: OK                         [ -device /dev/video0 ]
>     type : v4l2
>     name : Laptop_Integrated_Webcam_0.3M
>     flags:  capture
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> $ xawtv -device /dev/video0
> This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/x86_64 (2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64)
> xinerama 0: 1600x1200+0+0
> xinerama 1: 1280x800+0+0
> WARNING: No DGA support available for this display.
> /dev/video0 [v4l2]: no overlay support
> v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
> Warning: Cannot convert string "7x13bold" to type FontStruct
> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
> Warning: Cannot convert string 
> "-*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*,           
> -*-courier-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*,          
> -gnu-unifont-bold-r-normal--16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*,        
> -efont-biwidth-bold-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,                 
> -*-*-bold-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-m-*-*-*,                 
> -*-*-bold-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*,                         
> -*-*-*-*-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" to type FontSet
> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
> Error: Aborting: no fontset found
> 
> ----------------------------
> 
> $ rpm -q xawtv
> xawtv-3.95-11.fc11.x86_64
> [rlc at deafeng3 ~]$
> 
> 
> Do I need to separately install the tv-fonts mentioned here:
> 
> http://linux.bytesex.org/xawtv/tvfonts.html
> 
I asked the same thing a few months ago, or rather reported that I had just 
added a bunch of fonts to the 60+ I normally carry. I just loaded a boatload of 
fonts and one was right, because I got to the next step after that.

I suggest that it's a bug, a missing dependency in the RPM. Perhaps the site you 
found will tell you which one you needed, I used a shotgun approach and added a 
dozen or so to get the actual task moving.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com  Sat May  9 19:27:36 2009
From: an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com (Allen Kistler)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 14:27:36 -0500
Subject: F11 updates vs. rawhide
Message-ID: <4A05D928.5030905@yahoo.com>

So this list has the item

> Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
> 
> The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing
>
> [snip]

And fedora-package-announce has a bunch like

> Subject: Fedora 11 Update: fsarchiver-0.5.2-1.fc11
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fedora Update Notification
> FEDORA-2009-4315
> 2009-05-08 20:17:29
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> [snip]

But there's no F11 repo yet AFAICT.
Then there's the Blocker review next week.

So there's an unavailable F11 repo that's getting all the bug fixes that 
aren't going into the final release, and it's starting now so there's 
not a massive update push right at release.

Am I reading between the lines correctly?  I'm just curious, because 
there's still some new F11 stuff going into rawhide, too.



From michal at harddata.com  Sat May  9 22:09:41 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 16:09:41 -0600
Subject: Starting xawtv Successfully in Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A05C454.1020805@speakeasy.net>
References: <4A05C454.1020805@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <20090509220941.GA4744@mail.harddata.com>

On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 01:58:44PM -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> How do I deal with this problem in Fedora 11:
...
> Warning: Cannot convert string "7x13bold" to type FontStruct
"7x13bold" will be an alias in xorg-x11-fonts-misc

> "-*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*,           
> -*-courier-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*,          

Installing xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi and/or
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi should cover those.  You can likely
use some other available ISO8859 fonts for another character set.
I am guessing that this should be enough for what you need although
I do not know for sure.

It appears that xawtv package is missing some dependencies.

    Michal



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May  9 23:22:47 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 19:22:47 -0400
Subject: F11 updates vs. rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4A05D928.5030905@yahoo.com>
References: <4A05D928.5030905@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A061047.3060204@tmr.com>

Allen Kistler wrote:
> So this list has the item
> 
>> Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
>>
>> The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing
>>
>> [snip]
> 
> And fedora-package-announce has a bunch like
> 
>> Subject: Fedora 11 Update: fsarchiver-0.5.2-1.fc11
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>
>> Fedora Update Notification
>> FEDORA-2009-4315
>> 2009-05-08 20:17:29
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>
>>
>> [snip]
> 
> But there's no F11 repo yet AFAICT.
> Then there's the Blocker review next week.
> 
> So there's an unavailable F11 repo that's getting all the bug fixes that 
> aren't going into the final release, and it's starting now so there's 
> not a massive update push right at release.
> 
> Am I reading between the lines correctly?  I'm just curious, because 
> there's still some new F11 stuff going into rawhide, too.
> 
I not only see mention of fc11 updates, but updates-testing as well. Not to 
mention yum showing me updates-debug, updates-debuginfo, and of course koji and 
rpmfusion. Are these all newer or less tested than rawhide? From other planets 
or dimensions? The repo setup is a bit less organized than is optimal just 
before a release.


-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Sat May  9 23:52:22 2009
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 18:52:22 -0500
Subject: F11 updates vs. rawhide
References: <4A05D928.5030905@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <gu54vn$aj3$1@ger.gmane.org>

Allen Kistler wrote:

> So there's an unavailable F11 repo that's getting all the bug fixes that
> aren't going into the final release, and it's starting now so there's
> not a massive update push right at release.

Correct.
 
> Am I reading between the lines correctly?  I'm just curious, because
> there's still some new F11 stuff going into rawhide, too.

Only release-critical stuff is going into rawhide/F-11(ga)

-- Rex





From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Sun May 10 01:26:39 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 09:26:39 +0800
Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
In-Reply-To: <4A044988.1050507@googlemail.com>
References: <1608990582.31707.1241745894235.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn08.prod>	<4A03E9B0.6000805@herakles.homelinux.org>	<b5b999040905080134n36e2cf3cw8437e7e99f13db43@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A044988.1050507@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <4A062D4F.9040802@herakles.homelinux.org>

Bill Crawford wrote:

> Usually this is the result of "helpful" services that offer to read your 
> address book and "add your friends" ... unfortunately the proper 
> solution would be for address books to distinguish between mailing lists 
> and individual addresses, and these services to only add the latter. In 
> the meantime, I think the best solution would be to add specific checks 
> for known "annoying" things like LinkedIn to spamassassin or the like on 
> the list servers.
> 
A problem here is to allow legitimate messages referring to 
linkedin|facebook|myspace|other social networking sites and 
RHEL|Fedora|other relevant list/product. If these sites have standard 
subject lines, as this appears to be, then those could be filtered out 
as they appear.

I don't have a better solution than ensuring people see that this 
misconduct isn't acceptable.

Since my involvement with Fedora is just on a list or two and nobody 
sensibly would think I speak for the project or any of its affiliates, I 
don't feel any great need to exemplify the very epitome of politeness.

A few howls of derision are probably sufficient warning.


-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From the.masch at gmail.com  Sun May 10 01:38:15 2009
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 22:38:15 -0300
Subject: F11- Error during the boot
Message-ID: <93d66b780905091838i4d09cab0t2bde5eefbe3c58a0@mail.gmail.com>

Hello:
I have this error and warnings during the boot, Is it possible to fix it?


Downloads: clean, 64113/9240576 files, 17033457/18480774 blocks (check after
next mount)
                                                           [  OK  ]
Remounting root filesystem in read-write mode:             [  OK  ]
Mounting local filesystems:  mount: none already mounted or
/sys/bus/usb/drivers busy
                                                           [FAILED]
Enabling local filesystem quotas:                          [  OK  ]
Enabling /etc/fstab swaps:                                 [  OK  ]
Entering non-interactive startup
Applying Intel CPU microcode update: WARNING: Deprecated config file
/etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
                                                           [  OK  ]

Starting NFS statd:                                        [  OK  ]
Starting RPC idmapd: WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all
config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong
into /etc/modprobe.d/.
                                                           [  OK  ]
Starting system message bus:                               [  OK  ]

Salu2...
masch...
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090509/1045b3b2/attachment.htm>

From frankly3d at gmail.com  Sun May 10 06:40:04 2009
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 07:40:04 +0100
Subject: Thunderbird & Firefox & Xorg
Message-ID: <f70917610905092340i45f13037s2bc85b0aa1707890@mail.gmail.com>

I know it's been touched on, but what causes TB and FF to hog the cpu,
mouse useless, it moves that's it.
ctrl-alt-del doesn't get focus.

Can't use terminal.

Any existing bugzillas?

Am writing this froma wifes XP box.
Sad..

Frank

-- 
aMSN: Frankly3D



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Sun May 10 12:30:08 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 08:30:08 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
References: <64b14b300905031245l74d126a7w563cebfedfb8231e@mail.gmail.com>	<878wldvrn8.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>
	<5459.1241395717@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Message-ID: <4A06C8D0.2010300@cox.net>

On 05/03/2009 08:08 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> "Wolfgang S. Rupprecht"<wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com>  writes:
>> Valent Turkovic<valent.turkovic at gmail.com>  writes:
>>> http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-11-fail-because-of-anaconda/
>
>> The x86_64 Preview doesn't run here.
>
> The PPC port has also gone largely untested, because it's impossible
> to install it on Apple-based hardware (and how many of us own any other
> kind of PPC?), thanks to this still-unaddressed bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492154
>
> I don't have any warm fuzzies about how good F11 is going to be;
> I'm afraid that anaconda's instability has blocked a lot of the
> testing we'd normally get.
>
> 			regards, tom lane
>

Anaconda instabilities are also currently affecting testing on i386 type 
machines also.  I believe the storage rewrite is the main reason, but we 
test and we test and that is what we do.  I enjoy it and hope I can 
contribute some small part.  Won't it be fun when grub2 is in the test 
hopper?



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sun May 10 13:39:22 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:39:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090510 changes
Message-ID: <20090510133922.288BE1F8214@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sun May 10 06:15:09 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

leonidas-kde-theme-0.2.4-3.fc11
-------------------------------
* Sat May 09 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> 0.2.4-3
- wallpaper symlinks fixed (bz#496379)

* Thu Apr 23 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> 0.2.3-1
- new KDM theme design

* Thu Apr 23 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> 0.2.4-1
- default face (original by K. Peirce, CC-BY)

* Thu Apr 23 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> 0.2.4-2
- tarball respin


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 1









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sun May 10 15:02:29 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 11:02:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: playing with real-time on a regular system?
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905101053340.26549@localhost.localdomain>


  short question:  can i add real-time support to a regular kernel
(rt.wiki.kernel.org) and use that kernel on a regular system, so that
the system continues to run (mostly) normally unless i want to start
experimenting with real-time features?  in short, i want to mess with
real-time but don't want to have to devote an entirely separate system
to it if i can avoid it.

  longer question:  if i can do the above, what's the best way to add
RT support to a fedora-flavoured kernel?  i can see from the current
fedora kernel source rpm (2.6.29.2-126) that there are numerous
patches applied to the stock kernel source, and it's probably a good
idea to hang onto them.

  so, normally, i'd download the latest kernel source rpm, "rpmbuild"
and install that manually.  however, for RT, i'd obviously want to
prep the kernel source and then (if possible) apply the RT patch, then
finish the build.

  i can see that there is a 2.6.29.2-rt11 patch, but it's obviously an
issue as to whether that patch will apply to the "fedora"ized kernel
source with all of the fedora patches applied.

  thoughts?  what's the best way to go about this?  thanks.

rday
--


========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From lsatenstein at yahoo.com  Sun May 10 19:07:57 2009
From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:07:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Apologies for expetative messages
Message-ID: <552433.1064.qm@web110716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


In joining linkedin, it asks and I gave it authorisation to send an invite to everyone who was in my yahoo.com address book.

Unfortunately, to insure that test-list arrives without spam, it is an entry in my address book, and you got the X?&* message.  Sigh...
------------------

Regards  
Mr. Leslie
 Leslie Satenstein




From lsatenstein at yahoo.com  Sun May 10 19:07:58 2009
From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:07:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Apologies for expetative messages
Message-ID: <470874.63252.qm@web110703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


In joining linkedin, it asks and I gave it authorisation to send an invite to everyone who was in my yahoo.com address book.

Unfortunately, to insure that test-list arrives without spam, it is an entry in my address book, and you got the X?&* message.  Sigh...
------------------

Regards  
Mr. Leslie
 Leslie Satenstein




From lsatenstein at yahoo.com  Sun May 10 19:15:10 2009
From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:15:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: For the future...
Message-ID: <607033.5566.qm@web110716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


As not all topics are of interest to me, and since there is a reason to not receive packets of emails with entries I would not be reading, is there a way, (thinking of the future), 
To receive only a list of the titles as a link to a URL?  Then I need only click on the topics of interest to open them.


------------------

Regards  
Mr. Leslie
Leslie Satenstein

 



From bruno at wolff.to  Sun May 10 19:39:16 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 14:39:16 -0500
Subject: For the future...
In-Reply-To: <607033.5566.qm@web110716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <607033.5566.qm@web110716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090510193915.GB12146@wolff.to>

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:15:10 -0700,
  Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> As not all topics are of interest to me, and since there is a reason to not receive packets of emails with entries I would not be reading, is there a way, (thinking of the future), 
> To receive only a list of the titles as a link to a URL?  Then I need only click on the topics of interest to open them.

There are web based archives that you could check from time to time.

For example if you had a problem and want to look if anyone was talking about
something similar on the test list, you could look at the archive for
the current (and possibly the previous) month's archive using the thread view.
That should be relativly easy to skim through.



From snow.open.ski at gmail.com  Sun May 10 19:50:41 2009
From: snow.open.ski at gmail.com (Will)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:50:41 -0400
Subject: Hi
Message-ID: <4A073011.3000002@gmail.com>

Hi,

My name is Will Morris. I am a Fedora Ambassador. I wanted to find a way 
to get more involved with Fedora while I am getting prepared for my 
events as an Ambassador. I look forward to helping others with their 
problems, and learning a lot, too. If you have any questions please feel 
free to ask.

Thanks,
Will Morris



From the.masch at gmail.com  Sun May 10 20:25:11 2009
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 17:25:11 -0300
Subject: Hi
In-Reply-To: <4A073011.3000002@gmail.com>
References: <4A073011.3000002@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93d66b780905101325i3942c397ke09ee4276bc05139@mail.gmail.com>

Hello:
I have this error and warnings during the boot, Is it possible to fix it?


Downloads: clean, 64113/9240576 files, 17033457/18480774 blocks (check after
next mount)
                                                           [  OK  ]
Remounting root filesystem in read-write mode:             [  OK  ]
Mounting local filesystems:  mount: none already mounted or
/sys/bus/usb/drivers busy
                                                           [FAILED]
Enabling local filesystem quotas:                          [  OK  ]
Enabling /etc/fstab swaps:                                 [  OK  ]
Entering non-interactive startup
Applying Intel CPU microcode update: WARNING: Deprecated config file
/etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
                                                           [  OK  ]

Starting NFS statd:                                        [  OK  ]
Starting RPC idmapd: WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all
config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong
into /etc/modprobe.d/.
                                                           [  OK  ]
Starting system message bus:                               [  OK  ]


Salu2...
masch...
thanks...

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Will <snow.open.ski at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My name is Will Morris. I am a Fedora Ambassador. I wanted to find a way to
> get more involved with Fedora while I am getting prepared for my events as
> an Ambassador. I look forward to helping others with their problems, and
> learning a lot, too. If you have any questions please feel free to ask.
>
> Thanks,
> Will Morris
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090510/e77a87d1/attachment.htm>

From snow.open.ski at gmail.com  Sun May 10 20:11:30 2009
From: snow.open.ski at gmail.com (Will)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 16:11:30 -0400
Subject: Hi
In-Reply-To: <93d66b780905101325i3942c397ke09ee4276bc05139@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A073011.3000002@gmail.com>
	<93d66b780905101325i3942c397ke09ee4276bc05139@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0734F2.3020209@gmail.com>

Hi,

Have you filled out a bug report yet? If not you need to create an 
account at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/createaccount.cgi. Then you can 
post your bug.

I am brand new to the list, so I can't help you yet but I know that 
there are others that can.

Will Morris

Mario Chacon wrote:
> Hello:
> I have this error and warnings during the boot, Is it possible to fix it?
>
>
> Downloads: clean, 64113/9240576 files, 17033457/18480774 blocks (check 
> after next mount)
>                                                            [  OK  ]
> Remounting root filesystem in read-write mode:             [  OK  ]
> Mounting local filesystems:  mount: none already mounted or 
> /sys/bus/usb/drivers busy
>                                                            [FAILED]
> Enabling local filesystem quotas:                          [  OK  ]
> Enabling /etc/fstab swaps:                                 [  OK  ]
> Entering non-interactive startup
> Applying Intel CPU microcode update: WARNING: Deprecated config file 
> /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
>                                                            [  OK  ]
>
> Starting NFS statd:                                        [  OK  ]
> Starting RPC idmapd: WARNING: Deprecated config file 
> /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
> WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files 
> belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
>                                                            [  OK  ]
> Starting system message bus:                               [  OK  ]
>
>
> Salu2...
> masch...
> thanks...
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Will <snow.open.ski at gmail.com 
> <mailto:snow.open.ski at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     My name is Will Morris. I am a Fedora Ambassador. I wanted to find
>     a way to get more involved with Fedora while I am getting prepared
>     for my events as an Ambassador. I look forward to helping others
>     with their problems, and learning a lot, too. If you have any
>     questions please feel free to ask.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Will Morris
>
>     -- 
>     fedora-test-list mailing list
>     fedora-test-list at redhat.com <mailto:fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>     To unsubscribe:
>     https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
>

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090510/ae757675/attachment.htm>

From the.masch at gmail.com  Sun May 10 21:40:28 2009
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 18:40:28 -0300
Subject: Hi
In-Reply-To: <4A0734F2.3020209@gmail.com>
References: <4A073011.3000002@gmail.com>
	<93d66b780905101325i3942c397ke09ee4276bc05139@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A0734F2.3020209@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93d66b780905101440h37bca67bt94b2383c1085d810@mail.gmail.com>

thanks I will do it.

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Will <snow.open.ski at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> Have you filled out a bug report yet? If not you need to create an account
> at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/createaccount.cgi. Then you can post your
> bug.
>
> I am brand new to the list, so I can't help you yet but I know that there
> are others that can.
>
> Will Morris
>
>
> Mario Chacon wrote:
>
> Hello:
> I have this error and warnings during the boot, Is it possible to fix it?
>
>
> Downloads: clean, 64113/9240576 files, 17033457/18480774 blocks (check
> after next mount)
>                                                            [  OK  ]
> Remounting root filesystem in read-write mode:             [  OK  ]
> Mounting local filesystems:  mount: none already mounted or
> /sys/bus/usb/drivers busy
>                                                            [FAILED]
> Enabling local filesystem quotas:                          [  OK  ]
> Enabling /etc/fstab swaps:                                 [  OK  ]
> Entering non-interactive startup
> Applying Intel CPU microcode update: WARNING: Deprecated config file
> /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
>                                                            [  OK  ]
>
> Starting NFS statd:                                        [  OK  ]
> Starting RPC idmapd: WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf,
> all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
> WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong
> into /etc/modprobe.d/.
>                                                            [  OK  ]
> Starting system message bus:                               [  OK  ]
>
>
> Salu2...
> masch...
> thanks...
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Will <snow.open.ski at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My name is Will Morris. I am a Fedora Ambassador. I wanted to find a way
>> to get more involved with Fedora while I am getting prepared for my events
>> as an Ambassador. I look forward to helping others with their problems, and
>> learning a lot, too. If you have any questions please feel free to ask.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Will Morris
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090510/7975c552/attachment.htm>

From davidsen at tmr.com  Sun May 10 23:58:14 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:58:14 -0400
Subject: F11 updates vs. rawhide
In-Reply-To: <gu54vn$aj3$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4A05D928.5030905@yahoo.com> <gu54vn$aj3$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4A076A16.5010400@tmr.com>

Rex Dieter wrote:
> Allen Kistler wrote:
> 
>> So there's an unavailable F11 repo that's getting all the bug fixes that
>> aren't going into the final release, and it's starting now so there's
>> not a massive update push right at release.
> 
> Correct.
>  
>> Am I reading between the lines correctly?  I'm just curious, because
>> there's still some new F11 stuff going into rawhide, too.
> 
> Only release-critical stuff is going into rawhide/F-11(ga)
> 
That makes perfect sense, what could be better than to release a bunch of 
packages for which there are known bug fixes, then everyone can install the 
release and spend the effort and bandwidth to upgrade to install the bug fixes 
later, one machine at a time instead of from the install DVD.

Wait, maybe that doesn't make perfect sense after all...   ;-)

Okay, I'm being sarcastic, but I would rather install a lightly-tested bug fix 
than a version with a known bug. In one case I absolutely will have to upgrade 
the package on every machine, in the other the bug fix may be fine.

Note: I am not talking about upgrade to newer upstream versions, only any 
pending fixes for actual known bugs. That may actually may be what's happening, 
and Allen may have said "bug fixes" when in fact it is upgrades to newer 
versions being queued. In 99% of the cases I don't care about going to newer 
releases, and probably most people aren't waiting for the latest feature in 
their software, as long as the existing features work as planned.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From chris at tylers.info  Mon May 11 00:54:56 2009
From: chris at tylers.info (Chris Tyler)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:54:56 -0400
Subject: Keyboard does not work with Grub menu - How widespread?
Message-ID: <1242003296.30126.163.camel@concord3.proximity.on.ca>

I have a system where the keyboard doesn't work when the Grub menu is
visible. I opened bug 499836 and see now that there's a second report on
another system with a different brand of motherboard.

This can be a pretty significant problem, making it impossible to boot
directly into runlevel 3 if there's a video issue, for example.

I'm concerned that this problem might be more widespread than reported
but is not being noticed because hiddenmenu is the default unless
another OS is present. If you haven't seen the grub boot menu and are
willing to test:

1. Hold down shift or ctrl during the first part of the boot process,
until the menu appears (with some bioses, you may need to release the
key momentarily a few times). 

2. When the menu is present, you should be able to hit 'e' to edit, 'a'
to append boot arguments, or 'enter' to boot a menu option.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499836

-Chris



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon May 11 01:04:42 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 06:34:42 +0530
Subject: F11 updates vs. rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4A076A16.5010400@tmr.com>
References: <4A05D928.5030905@yahoo.com> <gu54vn$aj3$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4A076A16.5010400@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <4A0779AA.4000603@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/11/2009 05:28 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

> That makes perfect sense, what could be better than to release a bunch
> of packages for which there are known bug fixes, then everyone can
> install the release and spend the effort and bandwidth to upgrade to
> install the bug fixes later, one machine at a time instead of from the
> install DVD.

You should read

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy

If it is just bug fixes and has a low risk of destabilization, then the
package maintainers are free to file a freeze exception and rel-eng can
tag it to go into Fedora 11 directly instead of into the updates
repository.

Rahul



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Mon May 11 01:02:04 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:02:04 +0800
Subject: Keyboard does not work with Grub menu - How widespread?
In-Reply-To: <1242003296.30126.163.camel@concord3.proximity.on.ca>
References: <1242003296.30126.163.camel@concord3.proximity.on.ca>
Message-ID: <4A07790C.5060004@herakles.homelinux.org>

Chris Tyler wrote:
> I have a system where the keyboard doesn't work when the Grub menu is
> visible. I opened bug 499836 and see now that there's a second report on
> another system with a different brand of motherboard.
> 
> This can be a pretty significant problem, making it impossible to boot
> directly into runlevel 3 if there's a video issue, for example.
> 
> I'm concerned that this problem might be more widespread than reported
> but is not being noticed because hiddenmenu is the default unless
> another OS is present. If you haven't seen the grub boot menu and are
> willing to test:
> 
> 1. Hold down shift or ctrl during the first part of the boot process,
> until the menu appears (with some bioses, you may need to release the
> key momentarily a few times). 
> 
> 2. When the menu is present, you should be able to hit 'e' to edit, 'a'
> to append boot arguments, or 'enter' to boot a menu option.
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499836
> 
> -Chris
> 


Thanks for reporting that. It's been a problem for some years, but never 
aggravated me enough that I complained to anyone.

I've not seen it on recent systems. I have supposed that it occurs only 
with USB keyboards (my experience), where the BIOS legacy option is 
chosen (so DOS programs and programs like GRUB, that don't understand 
USB, work as expected).

I've always, when necessary, chosen to avoid the problem by installing a 
PS/2 keyboard. It's never been a problem here, I always HAVE TOO MANY 
KEYBOARDS, they breed like power cords.



-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Mon May 11 01:04:27 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:04:27 +0800
Subject: Apologies for expetative messages
In-Reply-To: <552433.1064.qm@web110716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <552433.1064.qm@web110716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A07799B.8090107@herakles.homelinux.org>

Leslie Satenstein wrote:
> In joining linkedin, it asks and I gave it authorisation to send an invite to everyone who was in my yahoo.com address book.
>
Thanks for your apology.

It's _never_ a good idea to choose to allow any program to "invite 
everyone in your address book," it's still spam whether you sent it or 
linkedin (or whomever) sent it.

-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Mon May 11 02:19:45 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 22:19:45 -0400
Subject: Keyboard does not work with Grub menu - How widespread?
In-Reply-To: <4A07790C.5060004@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <1242003296.30126.163.camel@concord3.proximity.on.ca>
	<4A07790C.5060004@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <4A078B41.2040205@speakeasy.net>

On 05/10/2009 09:02 PM, John Summerfield wrote:
> Chris Tyler wrote:
>> I have a system where the keyboard doesn't work when the Grub menu is
>> visible. I opened bug 499836 and see now that there's a second report on
>> another system with a different brand of motherboard.
>>
>> This can be a pretty significant problem, making it impossible to boot
>> directly into runlevel 3 if there's a video issue, for example.
>>
>> I'm concerned that this problem might be more widespread than reported
>> but is not being noticed because hiddenmenu is the default unless
>> another OS is present. If you haven't seen the grub boot menu and are
>> willing to test:
>>
>> 1. Hold down shift or ctrl during the first part of the boot process,
>> until the menu appears (with some bioses, you may need to release the
>> key momentarily a few times).
>> 2. When the menu is present, you should be able to hit 'e' to edit, 'a'
>> to append boot arguments, or 'enter' to boot a menu option.
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499836
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>
>
> Thanks for reporting that. It's been a problem for some years, but 
> never aggravated me enough that I complained to anyone.
>
> I've not seen it on recent systems. I have supposed that it occurs 
> only with USB keyboards (my experience), where the BIOS legacy option 
> is chosen (so DOS programs and programs like GRUB, that don't 
> understand USB, work as expected).
>
> I've always, when necessary, chosen to avoid the problem by installing 
> a PS/2 keyboard. It's never been a problem here, I always HAVE TOO 
> MANY KEYBOARDS, they breed like power cords.
>
>
>
I sometimes have this problem too, but I can't remember the specific 
details. I think most of these can't-get-grub-to-see-my-keyboard 
experiences are related to the less expensive genre of motherboards. One 
of my wife's very nice looking, fancy Dell USB keyboards doesn't 
function at all and it took me a long time to realize that. It got a few 
hard knocks too many while traveling with us. My USD $15 Logitech USB 
keyboard works great. An even cheaper $10 Inland brand USB keyboard also 
worked wonderfully until I left it in my car one freezing cold night. So 
if at first your keyboard don't work, try a second keyboard which is 
known-good.

And oh, my problem over here is not enough mice. They don't breed enough.

Bob




From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Mon May 11 02:23:39 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 12:23:39 +1000
Subject: Keyboard does not work with Grub menu - How widespread?
In-Reply-To: <4A078B41.2040205@speakeasy.net>
References: <1242003296.30126.163.camel@concord3.proximity.on.ca>
	<4A07790C.5060004@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<4A078B41.2040205@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <1242008619.2760.26.camel@moose>

On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 22:19 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> >
> I sometimes have this problem too, but I can't remember the specific 
> details. I think most of these can't-get-grub-to-see-my-keyboard 
> experiences are related to the less expensive genre of motherboards. One 
> of my wife's very nice looking, fancy Dell USB keyboards doesn't 
> function at all and it took me a long time to realize that. It got a few 
> hard knocks too many while traveling with us. My USD $15 Logitech USB 
> keyboard works great. An even cheaper $10 Inland brand USB keyboard also 
> worked wonderfully until I left it in my car one freezing cold night. So 
> if at first your keyboard don't work, try a second keyboard which is 
> known-good.
> 
> And oh, my problem over here is not enough mice. They don't breed enough.

I often have problems just getting into the grub menu.

It used to be that you could push any key (not the ANY key) but now it
seems that I'm meant to push a specific key, but which one I don't know.

Rolling through TAB, L-SHIFT, L-CTRL, R-SHIFT and R_CTRL seems to give
the best outcome, but doesn't always work.


R.



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Mon May 11 03:53:33 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:53:33 -0400
Subject: Mouse choices
In-Reply-To: <1241816829.3398.22.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1241816829.3398.22.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242014013.2611.74.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

OK, Lawrence, I'm assuming the following is true for you:

>>
I go to System -> Preferences -> Mouse from the Gnome menu.  On the
General tab, I select "Left-handed" under "Mouse Orientation" and hit
Close.  When I click on a desktop icon with the right mouse button, a
context menu appears, indicating the mouse is still set to
right-handed.  If I change the setting back to right-handed and then
to left-handed again, there is still no effect.
<<

That's the level of detail that package maintainers are looking for in a
bug report; there are a lot of different desktops and configurations and
whatnot that people use, and they need enough context to narrow down the
problem.

To ensure that the appropriate package maintainer sees your problem
report, the best thing to do is to file it at
http://bugzilla.redhat.com.  The first thing to do is to make sure a
problem has not already been reported, and as it happens a search
reveals your problem has already been reported here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487849

You can potentially help identify the source of the problem by sharing
information from your own system.  I would add something like the
following in a comment, assuming this is correct:

>>
I'm experiencing the same with being unable to set my mouse to
left-handed (no freeze up).  I have a Logitech wireless Keyboard and
mouse combo x710 USB.  In /etc/selinux/config, I have Selinux= enforcing
and Selinuxtype=targeted, but I don't see any error messages
in /var/log/messages or ~/.xsession-errors that look related to the
mouse problem.  I started experiencing this problem somewhere between
the F11 beta and preview releases.
<<

I would also attach the output of "lsusb"; do "yum install usbutils" to
install this program if you don't have it already.

If you have more time to put into diagnosing this, identifying the
last-good and first-bad RPMs with respect to this problem would probably
help the package maintainer out, unless someone shouts out otherwise.

I'm not an expert, but you could try reverting control-center,
xorg-x11-drv-mouse, and kernel with "rpm --oldpackage".  If you don't
have them handy, old versions are archived on
http://koji.fedoraproject.org (search in the upper right for the package
you need).  No doubt they have many dependencies you would also need to
track down; it might be easier to start over again with the beta release
and update packages piecemeal until the problem returns.

Alternatively, you can just wait until a developer asks for further help
diagnosing the issue.  If you add a comment to the above-mentioned bug,
you will get added to the cc: list (as long as that checkbox is also
selected when you submit your comment) and thus get an email whenever
there is an update to the bug.

FYI, if you have any other problems you would like to report, we hope
that:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests

is an adequate guide to help you find the information package
maintainers need to track them down, even for those just starting out
with Fedora.

Thanks for reporting this problem, and good luck!

--Beland



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Mon May 11 03:56:22 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 06:56:22 +0300
Subject: Keyboard does not work with Grub menu - How widespread?
In-Reply-To: <1242008619.2760.26.camel@moose>
References: <1242003296.30126.163.camel@concord3.proximity.on.ca>
	<4A07790C.5060004@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<4A078B41.2040205@speakeasy.net> <1242008619.2760.26.camel@moose>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905102056o47ec0c78p6828821be62ef6ac@mail.gmail.com>

>
> see also
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=240866
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090511/e178c9a9/attachment.htm>

From tom.horsley at att.net  Mon May 11 01:11:27 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:11:27 -0400
Subject: Keyboard does not work with Grub menu - How widespread?
In-Reply-To: <1242003296.30126.163.camel@concord3.proximity.on.ca>
References: <1242003296.30126.163.camel@concord3.proximity.on.ca>
Message-ID: <20090510211127.650f72ad@zooty>

On Sun, 10 May 2009 20:54:56 -0400
Chris Tyler wrote:

> I have a system where the keyboard doesn't work when the Grub menu is
> visible.

On my system, it sometimes doesn't work. I haven't yet noticed any
kind of pattern, but it is very rare. Most of the time it works
fine (and I'm almost certain to notice, because about the only times
I reboot the system I want to boot a different linux on my
multiboot grub menu, so it is certainly irritating when it
doesn't work). I do have a usb keyboard, and I noticed the other
day that it doesn't show up in lsusb, so I assume the BIOS is
indeed operating in "legacy" mode.



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Mon May 11 07:30:48 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:30:48 +0800
Subject: Mouse choices
In-Reply-To: <1241816829.3398.22.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1241816829.3398.22.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A07D428.5050909@herakles.homelinux.org>

Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> Thank you.  
> * I am running Gnome
> * I wanted to change my mouse from the standard right-hand to left-hand
> * None that I understand.  I tried opening each and there was nothing
> * I using a Logitech wireless Keyboard and mouse combo x710 USB
> * I installed Fedora 4 different times and each time I used a fresh Dvd.
> I started with beta and then pre-release. Somewhere between the Beta and
> the pre-release I encountered the problem.
> * Selinux= enforcing and Selinuxtype=targeted
> I hope I've answered all your questions.  I have just learn some things
> about where to look for things.  Thanks again
> 
> Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>
> 


This isn't the answer you want:-)

I'm right-handed, but I have a mate who insists on using his mouse in 
his left hand. I don't recall that he's bothered to configure the mouse so.

I have used his computer occasionally, and I gave up moving the thing 
across the desk, untangling and retangling its tail, and just use it 
where he does.

I have to think a little, but then I remember the first time I ided a 
mouse. Rubbish! I said. The mouse and the mac, both. I've changed my 
mind about the mouse.

Come to think of it, if he had configured the mouse left-handed, I'd 
have noticed when I did use it right-handed.

I think I'd just get used to it. Less hassle when I use someone else's 
computer, and each time I create a new Linux system - tree times today, 
a couple last Friday.



-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Mon May 11 07:46:09 2009
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike Cloaked)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 00:46:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Mouse choices
In-Reply-To: <1242014013.2611.74.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1241816829.3398.22.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242014013.2611.74.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <23478567.post@talk.nabble.com>




Christopher Beland wrote:
> 
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487849
> 
> 

There are other left-handed mouse issues that have also been reported for
F10
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483639
for example may also be relevant since this kind of issue has been around a
while and some of the F10 experience may be relevant to F11 also - and
indeed switching to left-handed also affects touchpad operation and this
whole issue needs resolving and sorting out.
-- 
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Mouse-choices-tp23453690p23478567.html
Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Mon May 11 09:13:45 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 05:13:45 -0400
Subject: Grub documentation
In-Reply-To: <1242008619.2760.26.camel@moose>
References: <1242003296.30126.163.camel@concord3.proximity.on.ca>
	<4A07790C.5060004@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<4A078B41.2040205@speakeasy.net> <1242008619.2760.26.camel@moose>
Message-ID: <1242033225.2611.86.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 12:23 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> I often have problems just getting into the grub menu.
> 
> It used to be that you could push any key (not the ANY key) but now it
> seems that I'm meant to push a specific key, but which one I don't know.
> 
> Rolling through TAB, L-SHIFT, L-CTRL, R-SHIFT and R_CTRL seems to give
> the best outcome, but doesn't always work.

That seems like a basic issue that should be documented for anyone who
might have more than one copy of the kernel installed, and want to pick
which one to run...


On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 10:30:03PM +0100, Cannon, Andrew C wrote:
> Okay, this is a very simple question, with probably a very simple answer, but I
> cannot for the life of me work out how to put in the alternative method 'linux
> askmethod' at the grub screen.

It looks like the default changed for Fedora 10, and any key should work
but SHIFT is recommended:

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#sn-GRUB

Should GRUB be documented in the sysadmin documentation:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Administration_Guide_Draft

Or perhaps this appendix to the install guide should be expanded to
clarify both these points?

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/ch-grub.html

It looks like the kernel option syntax is documented:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/s1-grub-commands.html

but the confusion was differences with:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/ap-admin-options.html

and neither really links to a list of available kernel options.

-B.



From mike at miketc.net  Mon May 11 09:48:14 2009
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 04:48:14 -0500
Subject: Keyboard does not work with Grub menu - How widespread?
In-Reply-To: <4A078B41.2040205@speakeasy.net>
References: <1242003296.30126.163.camel@concord3.proximity.on.ca>
	<4A07790C.5060004@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<4A078B41.2040205@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <1242035294.7293.5.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 22:19 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:

> I sometimes have this problem too, but I can't remember the specific 
> details. I think most of these can't-get-grub-to-see-my-keyboard 
> experiences are related to the less expensive genre of motherboards. One 
> of my wife's very nice looking, fancy Dell USB keyboards doesn't 
> function at all and it took me a long time to realize that. It got a few 
> hard knocks too many while traveling with us. My USD $15 Logitech USB 
> keyboard works great. An even cheaper $10 Inland brand USB keyboard also 
> worked wonderfully until I left it in my car one freezing cold night. So 
> if at first your keyboard don't work, try a second keyboard which is 
> known-good.

I have an MS wireless desktop (usb controller, wireless keyboard/mouse)
and from grub on everything is recognized.  But like others, the
keyboard isn't during BIOS.  I have to use a ps/2 keyboard if I need to
access it.

-- 
Mike Chambers
Madisonville, KY

Fedora Project - Bugzapper, Tester, User, etc..
miketc302 at fedoraproject.org



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Mon May 11 13:02:39 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 13:02:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090511 changes
Message-ID: <20090511130239.CADFC1F8215@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Mon May 11 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From katzj at redhat.com  Mon May 11 13:41:49 2009
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:41:49 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
In-Reply-To: <4A0591AA.2020806@tmr.com>
References: <1241448549.2726.40.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<5256d0b0905040758w6ef5f0d5r8a715092a05f6737@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241450430.2726.44.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<1241794304.2601.33.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<11121.1241806015@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4A0485E5.7050405@tmr.com>
	<15173.1241817386@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4A0580A6.9070700@tmr.com>
	<5699.1241878320@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4A0591AA.2020806@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <20090511134149.GA8730@redhat.com>

On Saturday, May 09 2009, Bill Davidsen said:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> writes:
>>> Tom Lane wrote:
>>>> Hmm, as a boot option you mean?  Doesn't seem to do anything at all,
>>>> I still see just the same behavior as with no option.  Thanks for
>>>> suggesting something though ...
>>>>
>>> Using the "vga=ask" option on the boot line should give you something 
>>> like the attached, from FC11snap+rawhide as of 24 hrs ago.
>>
>> [ shrug... ]  I repeat that it has no visible effect, at least not
>> when trying to boot yesterday's rawhide boot.iso on my ancient
>> Powerbook G3 laptop.  Should I be filing a bug, or is that option
>> only supported on Intel-ish machines?
>>
> If you didn't get a warn that the option was unknown, then I would file a 
> bug. I no longer have any Power or SPARC hardware, ran out of floor space 
> and time to use.

vga=ask is x86 only (well, more accurately, things which implement a
vga-like text console only... iirc, it works on ia64 too).  And the
kernel hardly warns of every option it doesn't understand, otherwise you
wouldn't be able to pass arbitrary things via the kernel command line

Jeremy



From lili at redhat.com  Mon May 11 13:59:25 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 21:59:25 +0800
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
Message-ID: <4A082F3D.6070500@redhat.com>

Greetings testers,

IBus input method - Ibus has been rewritten in C, and provides a simple,
clean default system for changing the way international users input
information into a Fedora system.
Most of the work on iBus is being done upstream by Huang Peng. This
feature proposal covers moving from scim to ibus as the default input
method framework for Fedora 11
iBus is designed to improve a number of deficiencies of scim:

* Ibus has been rewritten in C. Scim written in C++ using STL has
problems with weak symbol conflicts without the added complexity and
lower stability of the scim-bridge layer to workaround that.
* It is possible to write client and engines for ibus in any language
that supports dbus bindings.
* ibus loads engines on demand rather than all installed engines as scim
does, which improves the startup time and memory footprint.
* scim loads engines as dl-modules so a problem in any engine can take
down scim, whereas in ibus because the processes are separated only a
faulty process will die leaving rest of the system working normally.
* The architecture of ibus is bus-centric and so much closer to the CJK
OSS Forum Workgroup 3 draft "Specification of IM engine Service Provider
Interface" architecture, which might be supportable in the future.

I'd like to invite you to join #fedora-qa this Thursday, May 14, 2009 to
test Ibus input method.Get more details from:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-05-14_iBus

Thanks,
Liam



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Mon May 11 15:39:01 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:39:01 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
In-Reply-To: <4A082F3D.6070500@redhat.com>
References: <4A082F3D.6070500@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090511153901.GA12367@mail.scottro.net>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:59:25PM +0800, Liam wrote:
> Greetings testers,
> 
> IBus input method - Ibus has been rewritten in C, and provides a simple,
> clean default system for changing the way international users input
> information into a Fedora system.
> Most of the work on iBus is being done upstream by Huang Peng. This
> feature proposal covers moving from scim to ibus as the default input
> method framework for Fedora 11
> iBus is designed to improve a number of deficiencies of scim:
> 

Looking at the testing page, I see 4 desktops listed.  I remember last
time I played with it, it didn't work properly in fluxbox whereas scim
does.  

Looking at the imsettings enable page, linked from the test page, 
again it assumes that someone is running one of these.  For me,
and probably many others (such as many members of the Tokyo Linux 
User Group, many of whom are old timers who
prefer minimalist *box window managers, can it be enabled as simply as
scim with XMODIFIERS='@im=ibus'?  If so, that should definitely be put
on the page.  


For example, I simply run a little script XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM'
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 ${1+"$@"} &  if I need to use Japanese in an
application. (I use it most frequently in vi, and on occasion,
OpenOffice, where I use LC_CTYPE as ja_JP.UTF-8, having a second script
for that.  


Again, I don't think this is that atypical.   

Trying on F10, I still wasn't able to get it working in Fluxbox, I'll
try on F11

-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Giles: In order...to be worthy...you must perform the
ritual...in a tutu. Pillock!
Angel: All right, someone get the chain saw.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon May 11 16:15:37 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:15:37 -0700
Subject: Apologies for expetative messages
In-Reply-To: <552433.1064.qm@web110716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <552433.1064.qm@web110716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1242058537.2923.568.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 12:07 -0700, Leslie Satenstein wrote:
> In joining linkedin, it asks and I gave it authorisation to send an
> invite to everyone who was in my yahoo.com address book.

Thanks for apologizing, definitely the right thing to do. But in future
you might not want to do this sort of thing. All it's going to do is
annoy a lot of your contacts.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon May 11 16:16:28 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:16:28 -0700
Subject: Hi
In-Reply-To: <4A073011.3000002@gmail.com>
References: <4A073011.3000002@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242058588.2923.569.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 15:50 -0400, Will wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My name is Will Morris. I am a Fedora Ambassador. I wanted to find a way 
> to get more involved with Fedora while I am getting prepared for my 
> events as an Ambassador. I look forward to helping others with their 
> problems, and learning a lot, too. If you have any questions please feel 
> free to ask.

Welcome, Will. Was there any particular part of QA / Bugzappers you were
interested in joining in with? Thanks!
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 11 20:37:31 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:37:31 -0400
Subject: Preupgrade ???
Message-ID: <4A088C8B.90303@sbcglobal.net>

I want to upgrade from 10 to 11.
in the upgrade process, how does preupgrade treat apps that you need 
from RpmFusion ??



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Mon May 11 20:42:49 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:42:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>


  i'm trying to verify someone else's intro guide to asterisk, and
their first example (doing a "console dial 1001") fails, with:

No such command 'console dial 1001' (type 'help console dial' for
other possible commands)

  normally, this suggests that "either the channel driver
(chan_alsa.so or chan_oss.so) isn't loaded or it wasn't properly
initialized. If this happens, check the settings in modules.conf and
alsa.conf or oss.conf."

  the rpm package for asterisk for f11 doesn't contain either of
/etc/asterisk/{alsa,oss}.conf, and i tweaked
/etc/asterisk/modules.conf to load chan_alsa.so but that didn't solve
anything so, before i dig myself in too deep here, is there a
newbie-level doc that shows how to install, configure and test a
couple simple examples of asterisk under f11?  thanks.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From wwoods at redhat.com  Mon May 11 20:49:49 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:49:49 -0400
Subject: Preupgrade ???
In-Reply-To: <4A088C8B.90303@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A088C8B.90303@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1242074989.6057.2.camel@metroid>

On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 16:37 -0400, Jim wrote:
> I want to upgrade from 10 to 11.
> in the upgrade process, how does preupgrade treat apps that you need 
> from RpmFusion ??

preupgrade-1.1.x will try to find newer versions of any repos you have
enabled on your system. So if rpmfusion has an F11 repo ready,
everything should get upgraded normally.

Note that preupgrade-1.1.0 hasn't been pushed to F9/F10 yet, but you can
get it from here if you want to test:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=6045

Please file bugs if anything goes wrong when using that package.

-w



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Mon May 11 21:03:59 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:03:59 -0400
Subject: Turning Off Sendmail In Fedora 11
Message-ID: <4A0892BF.6050908@speakeasy.net>

I notice that sendmail is turned on by default in Fedora 11. I would 
like to turn it off. What is the impact of doing this -- will I cause a 
problem with other services like httpd? I haven't really paid attention 
to trends in sendmail management these days.

Should I be reviewing the messages that are emailed to the root user?

Thanks

Bob



From michael.wiktowy at gmail.com  Mon May 11 21:20:25 2009
From: michael.wiktowy at gmail.com (Michael Wiktowy)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:20:25 -0400
Subject: Better way to update kernel on LiveUSB?
Message-ID: <3e4ec4600905111420h3fd303c7p60146134d12d8473@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I find testing pre-releases via LiveUSB to be very handy. The problem
is that the installation of new kernels is not caught by syslinux
since the kernel installation scripts assume GRUB.
I found the following instructions for enabling a new kernel on a
persistent LiveUSB stick:
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1023695&postcount=7
It seems to work well and it is not difficult but hand-editing this
script doesn't seem like the best long term strategy.
Is there a simpler, automated or "official" way of doing this?

/Mike



From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us  Mon May 11 21:34:14 2009
From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:34:14 -0400
Subject: Turning Off Sendmail In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A0892BF.6050908@speakeasy.net>
References: <4A0892BF.6050908@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <4A0899D6.2090901@wolves.durham.nc.us>

Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I notice that sendmail is turned on by default in Fedora 11. I would 
> like to turn it off. What is the impact of doing this -- will I cause a 
> problem with other services like httpd? I haven't really paid attention 
> to trends in sendmail management these days.

Sendmail is enabled so that there is a local mail transfer agent (MTA).
The default install is /not/ network enabled, one has to edit the config 
files to allow network (incoming) access to mail.

> Should I be reviewing the messages that are emailed to the root user?

In general, yes.
More proper is to edit the last line of the /etc/aliases file to forward 
root's mail to a real user. [Don't forget to run newaliases after making 
changes to /etc/aliases.]

Personally, I have /etc/aliases send me root's mail and then I have 
procmail sort it into a separate Thunderbird folder for special attention.

-- 
G.Wolfe Woodbury



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Mon May 11 21:50:03 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:50:03 -0600
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
Message-ID: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Is there a way to set the DPI setting for GDM, and thus the X sessions
called from it, without changing this in the individual user profiles?

On one system I have, F11 gdm was automatically set to 120DPI, which
looked absolutely hideous at 1440X900 resolution. On another system, it
set itself automatically to 94DPI, which looked better, but not ideal.
I'd really like the default on both to be 96DPI (or perhaps 100DPI).

How do we do this, or are we just simply at the mercy of whatever gdm
decides to do?

Cheers,

Chris

--
====================================================
"Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first;
nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."

--Charles de Gaulle





From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon May 11 22:07:41 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 03:37:41 +0530
Subject: Preupgrade ???
In-Reply-To: <1242074989.6057.2.camel@metroid>
References: <4A088C8B.90303@sbcglobal.net> <1242074989.6057.2.camel@metroid>
Message-ID: <4A08A1AD.5060200@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/12/2009 02:19 AM, Will Woods wrote:

> preupgrade-1.1.x will try to find newer versions of any repos you have
> enabled on your system. So if rpmfusion has an F11 repo ready,
> everything should get upgraded normally.
> 
> Note that preupgrade-1.1.0 hasn't been pushed to F9/F10 yet, but you can
> get it from here if you want to test:
> 
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=6045
> 
> Please file bugs if anything goes wrong when using that package.

This is very very nice Will Woods. I will take a look when I have time.

Rahul



From tom.horsley at att.net  Mon May 11 22:40:43 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:40:43 -0400
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090511184043.7c52b45f@zooty>

On Mon, 11 May 2009 15:50:03 -0600
Christopher A. Williams wrote:

> How do we do this, or are we just simply at the mercy of whatever gdm
> decides to do?

I've been fighting with DPI a lot. My simplest solution is to switch
from gdm to kdm and edit the kdmrc file to add -dpi 96 to the server
args, but you can fool gdm into setting dpi for the duration of the
login screen by copying your own ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/font_rendering
directory to ~gdm (and fixing ownership to be owned by gdm). (This
assumes you have already set dpi to 96 in the fonts tab of the window
appearance preferences).

For more on the DPI saga, see:

http://braindump.home.att.net/dpi.html



From tom.horsley at att.net  Mon May 11 22:43:04 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:43:04 -0400
Subject: Turning Off Sendmail In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A0892BF.6050908@speakeasy.net>
References: <4A0892BF.6050908@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <20090511184304.164c89d9@zooty>

On Mon, 11 May 2009 17:03:59 -0400
Robert L Cochran wrote:

> I notice that sendmail is turned on by default in Fedora 11. I would 
> like to turn it off. What is the impact of doing this

If you fixed mail aliases to do things like forward you root's
mail, that won't happen without sendmail running, other than that
nothing much is lost (unless, of course, you actually want to
have mail working on your local network, etc).



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Mon May 11 22:54:25 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:54:25 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-05-12
Message-ID: <4A08ACA1.8080903@gmail.com>

Bug Triage Meeting
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
Tuesday @ 15:00 UTC/11 AM EST

Agenda for 2009-05-12   

minutes form the last meeting: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-05


* Housekeeping - 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11  

1.  Prepare drafted update for text that refers to the latest Fedora 
version in Bugzilla: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=Fedora
          
2. File a ticket with Red Hat Engineering Operations requesting the 
rebase of rawhide bugs on release day

3. File a ticket with Red Hat Engineering Operations requesting that 
qualifying bugs receiving an End of Life warning message the day after 
release day (first day of development for next release).

* Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/
-Update on the progress of the metrics.

* Severity/priority - 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend
-Update on progress.

Don't forget, Bug Triage Day after the meeting.
See you Tomorrow.
TK009



From bkoz at redhat.com  Mon May 11 23:38:44 2009
From: bkoz at redhat.com (Benjamin Kosnik)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:38:44 -0700
Subject: playing with real-time on a regular system?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905101053340.26549@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905101053340.26549@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090511163844.44167370@mcgee.artheist.org>

 
>   so, normally, i'd download the latest kernel source rpm, "rpmbuild"
> and install that manually.  however, for RT, i'd obviously want to
> prep the kernel source and then (if possible) apply the RT patch, then
> finish the build.

There used to be a kernel-rt package that was exactly this. However, it
is far out of date now.

It would be really nice to have it back.

-benjamin




From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Mon May 11 23:42:57 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:42:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: playing with real-time on a regular system?
In-Reply-To: <20090511163844.44167370@mcgee.artheist.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905101053340.26549@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090511163844.44167370@mcgee.artheist.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111940470.6707@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 11 May 2009, Benjamin Kosnik wrote:

>
> >   so, normally, i'd download the latest kernel source rpm,
> > "rpmbuild" and install that manually.  however, for RT, i'd
> > obviously want to prep the kernel source and then (if possible)
> > apply the RT patch, then finish the build.
>
> There used to be a kernel-rt package that was exactly this. However,
> it is far out of date now.
>
> It would be really nice to have it back.

  i had no idea that such a thing once existed and, yes, that's
*exactly* what i was looking for -- an RT-ified version of the stock
fedora kernel or, barring that, the simplest recipe for adding RT
capability to one.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon May 11 23:51:04 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 05:21:04 +0530
Subject: playing with real-time on a regular system?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111940470.6707@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905101053340.26549@localhost.localdomain>	<20090511163844.44167370@mcgee.artheist.org>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111940470.6707@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A08B9E8.3060504@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/12/2009 05:12 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

> 
>   i had no idea that such a thing once existed and, yes, that's
> *exactly* what i was looking for -- an RT-ified version of the stock
> fedora kernel or, barring that, the simplest recipe for adding RT
> capability to one.

kernel-rt was never in the Fedora repo even though Red Hat is very
involved in this effort. Planet CCRMA used to have one. Haven't checked
recent status.

Rahul



From tgl at redhat.com  Tue May 12 01:02:15 2009
From: tgl at redhat.com (Tom Lane)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 21:02:15 -0400
Subject: Turning Off Sendmail In Fedora 11 
In-Reply-To: <4A0899D6.2090901@wolves.durham.nc.us> 
References: <4A0892BF.6050908@speakeasy.net>
	<4A0899D6.2090901@wolves.durham.nc.us>
Message-ID: <13762.1242090135@sss.pgh.pa.us>

"G.Wolfe Woodbury" <ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us> writes:
> Robert L Cochran wrote:
>> I notice that sendmail is turned on by default in Fedora 11. I would 
>> like to turn it off. What is the impact of doing this -- will I cause a 
>> problem with other services like httpd? I haven't really paid attention 
>> to trends in sendmail management these days.

> Sendmail is enabled so that there is a local mail transfer agent (MTA).

Right.  You can put in a different MTA if you prefer, but not having one
at all is not very workable.  There's too much stuff that wants to send
mail to root when it has a problem.

			regards, tom lane



From snow.open.ski at gmail.com  Tue May 12 02:32:49 2009
From: snow.open.ski at gmail.com (Will)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 22:32:49 -0400
Subject: Hi
In-Reply-To: <1242058588.2923.569.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4A073011.3000002@gmail.com>
	<1242058588.2923.569.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A08DFD1.2010601@gmail.com>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 15:50 -0400, Will wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> My name is Will Morris. I am a Fedora Ambassador. I wanted to find a way 
>> to get more involved with Fedora while I am getting prepared for my 
>> events as an Ambassador. I look forward to helping others with their 
>> problems, and learning a lot, too. If you have any questions please feel 
>> free to ask.
>>     
>
> Welcome, Will. Was there any particular part of QA / Bugzappers you were
> interested in joining in with? Thanks!
>   
Hi,

I don't know at this point. I am going to be at the meeting tomarrow at 
10 EST. I hope to stay around for the triage hour afterwards to learn 
about how to work on bugs.  I seem to be interested in working on the 
X11 system and grub. But that might change as things go on.

Will
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090511/f1169a5e/attachment.htm>

From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 12 04:13:55 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:13:55 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090512041355.C890E10F80E@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    bibtex2html-1.93-3.fc9
    couchdb-0.9.0-2.fc9
    creox-0.2.2-0.2.rc2.fc9
    dblatex-0.2.10-2.fc9
    gcin-1.4.5-2.fc9
    gcolor2-0.4-1.fc9
    glista-0.4-2.fc9
    inn-2.4.4-2.fc9
    jack-keyboard-2.5-2.fc9
    kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kde-plasma-stasks-0.5.1-2.fc9
    kde-plasma-yawp-0.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-2.fc9
    kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc9
    kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc9
    kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kernel-2.6.27.23-78.2.50.fc9
    perl-Class-Inspector-1.24-1.fc9
    seamonkey-1.1.16-1.fc9
    slapi-nis-0.15-1.fc9
    unoconv-0.3-3.fc9
    xfce4-cellmodem-plugin-0.0.5-1.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 bibtex2html-1.93-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4683)
 Collection of tools for translating from BibTeX to HTML
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Collection of tools for translating from BibTeX to HTML.  They allow to produce,
from a set of bibliography files in BibTeX  format, a bibliography in HTML
format.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490576 - Review Request: bibtex2html - Collection of tools for translating from BibTeX to HTML
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490576
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 couchdb-0.9.0-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4687)
 A document database server, accessible via a RESTful JSON API
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to 0.9.0  - Fix permission for ini files.  - Fix couchdb.init start
process.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 21 2009 Allisson Azevedo <allisson at gmail.com> 0.9.0-2
- Fix permission for ini files.
- Fix couchdb.init start process.
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Allisson Azevedo <allisson at gmail.com> 0.9.0-1
- Update to 0.9.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 creox-0.2.2-0.2.rc2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4741)
 Real-time Sound Processor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Creox is a real-time sound processor. You can plug your electric guitar or any
other musical instrument directly to the PC's sound card and start experimenting
with various sound effects. Creox has a nice user-friendly GUI, a preset
support, a low-latency DSP engine and each effect parameter can be altered "on
the fly".    As the creox is a JACK application, the output sound can be routed
to the other JACK-aware applications and the input audio can be taken as the
output from the other JACK client.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497035 - Review Request: creox - Real-time Sound Processor
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497035
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dblatex-0.2.10-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4770)
 DocBook to LaTeX/ConTeXt Publishing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

see:http://dblatex.sourceforge.net/html/release-notes/sec-changes-0210.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 10 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.2.10-2
- remove dblatex-0.2.9-xetex.patch
* Sun May 10 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.2.10-1
- Update to 0.2.10
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.9-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 0.2.9-3
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
* Fri Jul  4 2008 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.2.9-2
- BR: texlive-xetex -> tex(xetex) for F-10 and later
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gcin-1.4.5-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4838)
 Input method for Traditional Chinese
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 1.4.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Chung-Yen Chang <candyz0416 at gmail.com> - 1.4.5-2
- remove gtk_bug_fix.so and rebuild
* Thu May  7 2009 Chung-Yen Chang <candyz0416 at gmail.com> - 1.4.5-1
- update to 1.4.5
* Tue Mar 31 2009 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.4.4-5
- fix unowned directory (#473616)
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.4.4-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gcolor2-0.4-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4686)
 A simple color selector for GTK+2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

gcolor2 is a simple color selector that was originally based on gcolor, ported
to use GTK+2, and now has a completely new UI.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499214 - Review Request: gcolor2 - A simple color selector for GTK+2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499214
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 glista-0.4-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4812)
 Simple personal to-do list manager or task tracking tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Glista aims to be a very simple personal to-do list manager or task tracking
tool that does what it's supposed to, and does not get in your way. The main
focus of Glista is on staying a very simple tool.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499125 - Review Request: glista - Simple personal to-do list manager or task tracking tool
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499125
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 inn-2.4.4-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4849)
 The InterNetNews system, an Usenet news server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- create user/group news with reserved uidgid numbers    (#498702)  - mark
/usr/lib/news/lib/innshellvars* as noreplace,    versioned provide for
perl(::/usr/lib/innshellvars.pl)  - fix upstream url  - do own /usr/include/inn
in devel package (#473922)  - do not use static libraries(changes by Jochen
Schmitt,#453993)  - own all dirs spawned by inn package(#448088)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik at redhat.com> - 2.4.4-2
- create user/group news with reserved uidgid numbers
  (#498702)
- mark /usr/lib/news/lib/innshellvars* as noreplace,
  versioned provide for perl(::/usr/lib/innshellvars.pl)
- fix upstream url
- do own /usr/include/inn in devel package (#473922)
- do not use static libraries(changes by Jochen Schmitt,#453993)
- own all dirs spawned by inn package(#448088)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498702 - cannot install inn (missing 'news' user)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498702
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jack-keyboard-2.5-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4854)
 Virtual keyboard for JACK MIDI
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

jack-keyboard is a virtual MIDI keyboard - a program that allows you to send
JACK MIDI events using your PC keyboard. It's somewhat similar to vkeybd, except
it uses JACK MIDI instead of ALSA, and the default keyboard mapping is much
better - it uses the same layout as trackers (like Impulse Tracker) did, so you
have two and half octaves under your fingers.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499743 - Review Request: jack-keyboard - Virtual keyboard for JACK MIDI
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499743
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-stasks-0.5.1-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4727)
 Alternate Task-Switcher plasma applet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498306 - Review Request: kde-plasma-stasks - Alternate Task-Switcher plasma applet
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498306
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-yawp-0.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4817)
 Yet Another Weather Plasmoid
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This colorful plasmoid shows weather maps, reports and forecasts.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499531 - Review Request: kde-plasma-yawp - Yet Another Weather Plasmoid
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499531
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-4
- get rid of the dependency of system-config-printer
- drop the BR on PyKDE4, system-config-printer-libs
  it's just needed for runtime
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- fix #496646, system-config-printer-kde doesn't start
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- Requires: oxygen-icon-theme >= 4.2.2
- fix oxygen-cursor-themes noarch'ness
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- include more(all) csharp/qyoto .pc files snarfed from trunk/,
  to match how everyone (except upstream) is shipping (#490555)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.2-5
- F11+: enable csharp on ppc64
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.2-4
- reenable csharp on ppc
* Wed Apr  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-3
- enable csharp only on archs supported by mono (ie, drop ppc)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- better fix for strcasestr detection
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-13
- upstream patch to fix GCC4.4 crashes in kjs
  (kdebug:189809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-4
- revert -printer-applet dep changes (and drop for f11+)
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- drop the BR on PyKDE4, system-config-printer-libs
  it's just needed for runtime
- fix kdeutils-printer-applet dependency
- apply upstream patch to fix several issues in ark
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kernel-2.6.27.23-78.2.50.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4754)
 The Linux kernel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to kernel 2.6.27.23:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.27.22
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.27.23    Update the
r8169 network driver to the version from Linux 2.6.30-rc3.    Includes
additional fixes from the upstream 2.6.29 stable kernel.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.23-78.2.50
- Add stable patch from 2.6.29.1
- Add stable patch pending in 2.6.29-stable
* Fri May  8 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.23-78.2.49
- Linux 2.6.27.23
* Mon May  4 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.22-78.2.48
- Linux 2.6.27.22
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.22-78.2.47.rc1
- Revert netdevice_ops changes in the r8169 driver so it builds on 2.6.27.
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.22-78.2.46.rc1
- Linux 2.6.27.22-rc1
- Update r8169 network driver to 2.6.30-rc3-git6
- Dropped patches merged upstream:
  linux-2.6-usb-cdc-wdm-fix-oops.patch
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.21-78.2.45
- Set CONFIG_UEVENT_HELPER_PATH to the empty string (#496296)
* Wed Apr  8 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>  2.6.27.21-78.2.44
- Fix oops in cdc-wdm modem driver. (#481741)
* Tue Apr  7 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com>  2.6.27.21-78.2.43
- iwlwifi: remove implicit direct scan
* Thu Mar 26 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>  2.6.27.21-78.2.42
- Next round of ext4 fixes for -stable.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #481741 - Oops in cdc-wdm when connecting phone: Sony Ericsson W350
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481741
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Class-Inspector-1.24-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4707)
 Get information about a class and its structure
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Ralf Cors?pius <corsepiu at fedoraproject.org> - 1.24-1
- Upstream update.
- Remove Class-Inspector-1.23.diff.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 seamonkey-1.1.16-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4751)
 Web browser, e-mail, news, IRC client, HTML editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Kai Engert <kaie at redhat.com> 1.1.16-1
- Update to 1.1.16
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498718 - seamonkey is not up to date with bug fixes
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498718
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 slapi-nis-0.15-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4169)
 NIS Server and Schema Compatibility plugins for Directory Server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update expands the functionality of the module by adding the ability to
recursively follow references through the directory, and corrects module bugs
which could lead to server crashes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.15-1
- fix %deref and %referred to fail rather than return a valid-but-empty
  result when they fail to evaluate (reported by Rob Crittenden)
* Wed May  6 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.14-1
- correctly handle being loaded but disabled (#499404)
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.13-1
- update to 0.13, reworking %link() to correct some bugs (#498432)
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.12-1
- correct test suite failures that 0.11 started triggering
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.11-1
- update to 0.11 (#497904)
* Wed Mar  4 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.10-1
- update to 0.10
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.9-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497904 - Crash on first ypcat
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497904
  [ 2 ] Bug #498432 - deref_r can cause ns-slapd to crash
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498432
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 unoconv-0.3-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4816)
 Tool to convert between any document format supported by OpenOffice.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

unoconv converts between any document format that OpenOffice.org understands. It
uses OpenOffice.org's UNO bindings for non-interactive conversion of documents.
Supported document formats include Open Document Format (.odf), MS Word (.doc),
MS Office Open/MS OOXML (.xml), Portable Document Format (.pdf), HTML, XHTML,
RTF, Docbook (.xml), and more.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499749 - Review Request: unoconv - Tool to convert between any document format supported by OpenOffice.org
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499749
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xfce4-cellmodem-plugin-0.0.5-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4708)
 Cell Modem monitor plugin for the Xfce panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The cellmodem plugin is a monitoring plugin for cellular modems.  It reports
provider and signal quality for GPRS/UMTS(3G)/HSDPA(3.5G) modem cards. It works
with (mostly) all cards which support an out-of-band channel for monitoring
purposes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499281 - Review Request: xfce4-cellmodem-plugin - Cell Modem monitor plugin for the Xfce panel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499281
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 12 04:13:56 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:13:56 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090512041356.B4EC610F896@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    NetworkManager-openconnect-0.7.0.99-3.fc10
    armstrong-0.2.6-6.fc10
    backintime-0.9.24-1.fc10
    bibtex2html-1.93-3.fc10
    conky-1.7.0-1.fc10
    couchdb-0.9.0-2.fc10
    creox-0.2.2-0.2.rc2.fc10
    dblatex-0.2.10-2.fc10
    fedora-devshell-0.1.1-2.fc10
    gallery2-2.3-9.fc10
    gcin-1.4.5-2.fc10
    gcolor2-0.4-1.fc10
    giflib-4.1.6-2.fc10
    glista-0.4-2.fc10
    gnome-applet-alarm-clock-0.2.5-1.fc10
    hal-0.5.12-15.20081027git.fc10
    iptux-0.4.5-2.fc10
    jack-keyboard-2.5-2.fc10
    kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kde-plasma-stasks-0.5.1-2.fc10
    kde-plasma-yawp-0.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-2.fc10
    kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc10
    kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc10
    kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdepim-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kernel-2.6.29.3-60.fc10
    ksh-20090505-5.fc10
    mingw32-openssl-0.9.8j-3.fc10
    pam_yubico-2.1-2.fc10
    peppy-0.9.27-3.fc10
    perl-Catalyst-View-Mason-0.17-1.fc10
    perl-Class-Inspector-1.24-1.fc10
    perl-HTML-Defang-1.01-1.fc10
    perl-Net-Amazon-0.50-1.fc10
    perl-Text-Emoticon-0.04-1.fc10
    perl-XML-Atom-0.35-1.fc10
    python-basemap-0.99-7.fc10
    python-kiwi-1.9.25-1.fc10
    qgit-2.3-1.fc10
    qt-4.5.1-10.fc10
    rapidsvn-0.9.8-1.fc10
    rubygem-rufus-scheduler-2.0.1-1.fc10
    seamonkey-1.1.16-1.fc10
    selinux-policy-3.5.13-59.fc10
    shorewall-4.2.8-1.fc10
    slapi-nis-0.15-1.fc10
    unoconv-0.3-3.fc10
    xchat-gnome-0.24.1-2.fc10
    xfce4-cellmodem-plugin-0.0.5-1.fc10
    xfce4-radio-plugin-0.4.1-1.fc10
    xorg-x11-drv-s3virge-1.10.2-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 NetworkManager-openconnect-0.7.0.99-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4861)
 NetworkManager VPN integration for openconnect
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update will not abort when a new openconnect package starts caching the
user's username and other form entries in gconf. It also adds support for
setting the MTU (only directly in gconf).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  9 2009 David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse at intel.com> 1:0.7.0.99-3
- Accept 'form:*' keys in gconf
- Allow setting of MTU option in gconf
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 armstrong-0.2.6-6.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4809)
 Powerful music sequencing library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update enables SSE optimizations on supported architectures.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 10 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com>  0.2.6-6
- Rebuild
* Sun May 10 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com>  0.2.6-5
- Rebuild against new boost (on F-12)
- Re-enable sse optimizations on supported architectures
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 backintime-0.9.24-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4757)
 Simple backup system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

from .22 to .24
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-2
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bibtex2html-1.93-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4749)
 Collection of tools for translating from BibTeX to HTML
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Collection of tools for translating from BibTeX to HTML.  They allow to produce,
from a set of bibliography files in BibTeX  format, a bibliography in HTML
format.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490576 - Review Request: bibtex2html - Collection of tools for translating from BibTeX to HTML
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490576
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 conky-1.7.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4719)
 A system monitor for X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar at redhat.com> - 1.7.0-1
- Update to 1.7.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 couchdb-0.9.0-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4853)
 A document database server, accessible via a RESTful JSON API
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to 0.9.0  - Fix permission for ini files.  - Fix couchdb.init start
process.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 21 2009 Allisson Azevedo <allisson at gmail.com> 0.9.0-2
- Fix permission for ini files.
- Fix couchdb.init start process.
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Allisson Azevedo <allisson at gmail.com> 0.9.0-1
- Update to 0.9.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 creox-0.2.2-0.2.rc2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4787)
 Real-time Sound Processor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Creox is a real-time sound processor. You can plug your electric guitar or any
other musical instrument directly to the PC's sound card and start experimenting
with various sound effects. Creox has a nice user-friendly GUI, a preset
support, a low-latency DSP engine and each effect parameter can be altered "on
the fly".    As the creox is a JACK application, the output sound can be routed
to the other JACK-aware applications and the input audio can be taken as the
output from the other JACK client.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497035 - Review Request: creox - Real-time Sound Processor
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497035
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dblatex-0.2.10-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4701)
 DocBook to LaTeX/ConTeXt Publishing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

see:http://dblatex.sourceforge.net/html/release-notes/sec-changes-0210.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 10 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.2.10-2
- remove dblatex-0.2.9-xetex.patch
* Sun May 10 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.2.10-1
- Update to 0.2.10
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.9-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 0.2.9-3
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fedora-devshell-0.1.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4797)
 Fedora Developer's Toolbox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Yaakov M. Nemoy <ynemoy at fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.1-2
- adds explicit requires, seems rpm fails at python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499769 - pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: python-dateutil
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499769
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gallery2-2.3-9.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4695)
 Customizable photo gallery web site
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix for symlink handling.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  1 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-9
- Add rewrite dep for httpauth, BZ 498061.
- Adopt rdieter's symlink handling suggestions from rel-eng #1674.
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-8
- pretrans script logic fix. BZ498019.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498334 - Missing smarty link or wrong absolute path to smarty class in gallery2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498334
  [ 2 ] Bug #498061 - Can't activate gallery2-httpauth
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498061
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gcin-1.4.5-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4845)
 Input method for Traditional Chinese
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 1.4.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Chung-Yen Chang <candyz0416 at gmail.com> - 1.4.5-2
- remove gtk_bug_fix.so and rebuild
* Thu May  7 2009 Chung-Yen Chang <candyz0416 at gmail.com> - 1.4.5-1
- update to 1.4.5
* Tue Mar 31 2009 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.4.4-5
- fix unowned directory (#473616)
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.4.4-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gcolor2-0.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4759)
 A simple color selector for GTK+2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

gcolor2 is a simple color selector that was originally based on gcolor, ported
to use GTK+2, and now has a completely new UI.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499214 - Review Request: gcolor2 - A simple color selector for GTK+2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499214
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 giflib-4.1.6-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4848)
 Library for manipulating GIF format image files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to 4.1.6 containing several upstream fixes etc.  - Solved multilib
problems with documentation (#465208, #474538)  - Removed static library from
giflib-devel package (#225796 #c1)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  9 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 4.1.6-2
- Solved multilib problems with documentation (#465208, #474538)
- Removed static library from giflib-devel package (#225796 #c1)
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 4.1.6-1
- update to 4.1.6
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 4.1.3-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #465208 - Can't install both giflib-devel.i386 and giflib-devel.x86_64
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465208
  [ 2 ] Bug #474538 - giflib-devel-4.1.3-9.ppc and giflib-devel-4.1.3-9.ppc64 conflict
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474538
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 glista-0.4-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4709)
 Simple personal to-do list manager or task tracking tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Glista aims to be a very simple personal to-do list manager or task tracking
tool that does what it's supposed to, and does not get in your way. The main
focus of Glista is on staying a very simple tool.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499125 - Review Request: glista - Simple personal to-do list manager or task tracking tool
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499125
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnome-applet-alarm-clock-0.2.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4796)
 Alarm clock for the GNOME panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Alarm Clock is a fully-featured alarm clock for your GNOME panel. It's easy to
use yet powerful with support for multiple repeatable alarms, as well as
snoozing and a flexible notification system.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499132 - Review Request: gnome-applet-alarm-clock - Alarm clock for your GNOME panel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499132
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 hal-0.5.12-15.20081027git.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4818)
 Hardware Abstraction Layer
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to kernel 2.6.29.3:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.1
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.2
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.3    Fixes these
problems in earlier 2.6.29 kernels:  - hang on boot with HPET timer  - bluetooth
OBEX protocol failure  - more DRM bugs  - wireless adapter losing beacon after
scan    Includes audio driver quirk updates from 2.6.30.    Includes a new hal
package rebuilt against the new kernel headers.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.5.12-15.20081027git
- Rebuild against 2.6.29 kernel-headers, gory details in #496498
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #481448 - kernel eats a lot of memory
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481448
  [ 2 ] Bug #496140 - no autoload of padlock modules
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496140
  [ 3 ] Bug #485322 - rfkill - inadequate state for eeepc and kernels below 2.6.29-0.22.rc4.git1.fc10
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485322
  [ 4 ] Bug #497526 - Attansic NIC driver disconnects/reconnects with network
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497526
  [ 5 ] Bug #496964 - forcedeth no longer works after resume from S4 with 2.6.29.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496964
  [ 6 ] Bug #489821 - Kernel BUGs in i915_driver_irq_handler
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489821
  [ 7 ] Bug #485734 - intel-hda: snd_pcm_avail() overflows
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485734
  [ 8 ] Bug #495172 - Kernel panics when connected to wireless
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495172
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 iptux-0.4.5-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4832)
 A software for sharing in LAN
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is the first build for iptux on Fedora 10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jack-keyboard-2.5-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4718)
 Virtual keyboard for JACK MIDI
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

jack-keyboard is a virtual MIDI keyboard - a program that allows you to send
JACK MIDI events using your PC keyboard. It's somewhat similar to vkeybd, except
it uses JACK MIDI instead of ALSA, and the default keyboard mapping is much
better - it uses the same layout as trackers (like Impulse Tracker) did, so you
have two and half octaves under your fingers.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499743 - Review Request: jack-keyboard - Virtual keyboard for JACK MIDI
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499743
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-stasks-0.5.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4811)
 Alternate Task-Switcher plasma applet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498306 - Review Request: kde-plasma-stasks - Alternate Task-Switcher plasma applet
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498306
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-yawp-0.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4740)
 Yet Another Weather Plasmoid
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This colorful plasmoid shows weather maps, reports and forecasts.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499531 - Review Request: kde-plasma-yawp - Yet Another Weather Plasmoid
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499531
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-4
- get rid of the dependency of system-config-printer
- drop the BR on PyKDE4, system-config-printer-libs
  it's just needed for runtime
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- fix #496646, system-config-printer-kde doesn't start
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- Requires: oxygen-icon-theme >= 4.2.2
- fix oxygen-cursor-themes noarch'ness
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- include more(all) csharp/qyoto .pc files snarfed from trunk/,
  to match how everyone (except upstream) is shipping (#490555)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.2-5
- F11+: enable csharp on ppc64
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.2-4
- reenable csharp on ppc
* Wed Apr  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-3
- enable csharp only on archs supported by mono (ie, drop ppc)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- better fix for strcasestr detection
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-13
- upstream patch to fix GCC4.4 crashes in kjs
  (kdebug:189809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 PIM (Personal Information Manager) applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-4
- drop extraneous BR's, including libmal-devel (not currently used)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-4
- revert -printer-applet dep changes (and drop for f11+)
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- drop the BR on PyKDE4, system-config-printer-libs
  it's just needed for runtime
- fix kdeutils-printer-applet dependency
- apply upstream patch to fix several issues in ark
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kernel-2.6.29.3-60.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4818)
 The Linux kernel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to kernel 2.6.29.3:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.1
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.2
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.3    Fixes these
problems in earlier 2.6.29 kernels:  - hang on boot with HPET timer  - bluetooth
OBEX protocol failure  - more DRM bugs  - wireless adapter losing beacon after
scan    Includes audio driver quirk updates from 2.6.30.    Includes a new hal
package rebuilt against the new kernel headers.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  9 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.3-60
- Add less-intrusive version of the mm patch to prevent executable
  pages from being deactivated.
* Fri May  8 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.3-59
- Linux 2.6.29.3
- Dropped patches, merged upstream:
    linux-2.6-ath9k-Fix-FIF_BCN_PRBRESP_PROMISC-handling.patch
    linux-2.6-forcedeth-fix-resume-from-hibernate.patch
    linux-2.6-x86-64-fix-fpu-corruption-with-signals-and-preemption.patch
- Removed three patches from iommu-fixes.patch, merged upstream:
    intel-iommu: Avoid panic() for DRHD at address zero
    intel-iommu: Fix device-to-iommu mapping for PCI-PCI bridges
    intel-iommu: Fix oops in device_to_iommu() when devices not found
* Fri May  8 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-58
- ALSA: Avoid jiffies check for devices with BATCH flag
* Fri May  8 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-57
- Fix build error in "mm: evict streaming I/O pages before other pages"
* Thu May  7 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-56
- Fix responsiveness problems with the new memory manager:
     mm: evict streaming I/O pages before other pages
     mm: don't evict mapped executable pages
* Wed May  6 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-55
- back-port ath9k: Fix FIF_BCN_PRBRESP_PROMISC handling
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-54
- Make the kernel-vanilla package buildable again.
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-53
- Fix some broken bluetooth USB adapters
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-52
- Fix possible FPU context corruption on x86-64.
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-51
- Fix HPET hang at boot on AMD 81xx, caused by backported 2.6.30 HPET fixes.
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-50
- Linux 2.6.29.2
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-49.rc1
- Fix hang with HPET timer at boot (F11#497351)
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-48.rc1
- Revert 2.6.29.2-rc1 patch that won't be in the final release.
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-47.rc1
- Drop POSIX timer patch accidentally committed in 2.6.30.
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-46.rc1
- Add missed patch for fixing VIA Padlock driver autoload.
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-45.rc1
- drm-backport-f11-fixes-1.patch
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-44.rc1
- 2.6.29.2-rc1
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-43
- Remove bluetooth updates that broke OBEX.
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-42
- Fix loss of link on resume from hibernate with forcdeth adapter (reported in Bodhi)
* Wed Apr 22 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-41
- back-port mac80211: fix beacon loss detection after scan
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-40
- Add 2.6.29.2 patch queue (as git-linus.diff)
- Drop queued patches:
    linux-2.6-acer-wmi-bail-on-aao.patch
    linux-2.6-md-raid1-dont-assume-new-bvecs-are-init.patch
    linux-2.6-mm-define-unique-value-for-as_unevictable.patch
    linux-2.6-posix-timers-fix-clock-monotonicity.patch
    linux-2.6-posix-timers-fix-rlimit_cpu-fork-2.patch
    linux-2.6-posix-timers-fix-rlimit_cpu-setitimer.patch
    linux-2.6-net-fix-another-gro-bug.patch
    linux-2.6-kvm-kconfig-irqchip.patch
    linux-2.6-kvm-mask-notifiers.patch
    linux-2.6-kvm-reset-pit-irq-on-unmask.patch
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-39
- Don't include the modules.*.bin files in the RPM package.
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Neil Horman <nhorman at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-38
- Reduce ftrace memory usage at boot (bz 481448)
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-37
- Fix VIA Padlock autoload (#496140)
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-36
- git-bluetooth2.patch: Bluetooth fixes from F-11.
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-35
- Copy Xen and KVM fixes from Fedora 11:
    Fix xen boot on machines without NX support (F11#492523)
    Skip PIT-through-IOAPIC routing check on KVM guests.
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-34
- Build in the rfkill and rfkill-input modules (#485322)
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-33
- Set CONFIG_UEVENT_HELPER_PATH to the empty string (#496296)
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>> 2.6.29.1-32
- Copy ALSA quirk updates from Fedora 11
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>> 2.6.29.1-31
- Copy kvm fixes for bz#491625 and missed networking fix from F11 kernel
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-30
- Add missing patch for broken RLIMIT_CPU
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-28
- Fix warnings/errors in USB cdc-acm modem driver (F11#495446)
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-27
- Timer fixes headed for -stable
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-26
- Fix duplicated flag value in pagemap.h (-stable patch)
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-25
- Blacklist acer-wmi on the AAO to fix rfkill switch problems
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-24
- radeon: add some more kms fixes backported from F11
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-23
- Fix oops in md raid1 resync (F11#495550)
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-22
- Copy ALSA pulseaudio fixes from F-11.
* Mon Apr 13 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com>  2.6.29.1-21
- Remove iwl3945: rely on priv->lock to protect priv access
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-20
- Copy Intel iommu fixes, backported from 2.6.30, from F-11 kernel.
* Thu Apr  9 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-18
- Only print ext4 allocator fallback warning once.
* Tue Apr  7 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com>
- linux-2.6-v4l-dvb-fix-uint16_t-audio-h.patch (#493053)
* Mon Apr  6 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com>
- add git-bluetooth.patch from F-11, bluetooth fixes from 2.6.30
* Fri Apr  3 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com>
- add backwards drm compat for radeon kms
* Thu Apr  2 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.1-14
- Linux 2.6.29.1
- Dropped patches, merged upstream:
    linux-2.6-net-fix-gro-bug.patch
    linux-2.6-net-xfrm-fix-spin-unlock.patch
    linux-2.6-vm-x86-pat-fix-warnings.patch
    linux-2.6.29-pat-pci-change-prot-for-inherit.patch
    linux-2.6-fuse-fix-lseek-return-with-lock-held.patch
* Thu Apr  2 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com>  2.6.29-13
- back-port iwlwifi rfkill while device down patches
- iwl3945: rely on priv->lock to protect priv access
* Mon Mar 30 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-12
- x86 PCI/PAT fix headed for -stable: inherit protections on mmap.
- FUSE patch headed for -stable: don't return to user with lock held.
* Mon Mar 30 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-11
- Make the .shared-srctree file a list so more than two checkouts
  can share source files.
* Fri Mar 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-10
- Change kjournald to real-time priority to avoid stalls in ext3.
* Fri Mar 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-9
- Copy btrfs update from F11.
* Fri Mar 27 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-8
- Fix 2.6.29 networking lockups.
* Thu Mar 26 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-7
- Fix locking in net/xfrm/xfrm_state.c (f11#489764)
* Thu Mar 26 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-6
- Add upstream relatime patches but don't make relatime the default.
* Wed Mar 25 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-5
- Copy alsa-rewrite-hw_ptr-updaters.patch from F11:
  snd_pcm_update_hw_ptr() tries to detect the unexpected hwptr
  jumps more strictly to avoid the position mess-up, which often
  results in the bad quality I/O with pulseaudio.
* Wed Mar 25 2009 Neil Horman <nhorman at redhat.com>
- Adding netlink dropmonitor protocol bits from 2.6.30 net-next tree
* Tue Mar 24 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29-3
- Fix up squashfs v3/v4 conflicts.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #481448 - kernel eats a lot of memory
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481448
  [ 2 ] Bug #496140 - no autoload of padlock modules
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496140
  [ 3 ] Bug #485322 - rfkill - inadequate state for eeepc and kernels below 2.6.29-0.22.rc4.git1.fc10
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485322
  [ 4 ] Bug #497526 - Attansic NIC driver disconnects/reconnects with network
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497526
  [ 5 ] Bug #496964 - forcedeth no longer works after resume from S4 with 2.6.29.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496964
  [ 6 ] Bug #489821 - Kernel BUGs in i915_driver_irq_handler
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489821
  [ 7 ] Bug #485734 - intel-hda: snd_pcm_avail() overflows
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485734
  [ 8 ] Bug #495172 - Kernel panics when connected to wireless
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495172
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ksh-20090505-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4755)
 The Original ATT Korn Shell
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> 20090505-1
- updated to 2009-05-05
* Tue May  5 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> 20090501-1
- updated to 2009-05-01
- change language catalogue to ast-base-locale (493570)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-openssl-0.9.8j-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4802)
 MinGW port of the OpenSSL toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Add the file include/openssl/applink.c to the package which is necessary when
using OpenSSL in applications compiled with a different compiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  9 2009 Erik van Pienbroek <epienbro at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.8j-3
- Add the file include/openssl/applink.c to the package (BZ #499934)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499934 - applink.c not installed
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499934
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pam_yubico-2.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4831)
 A Pluggable Authentication Module for yubikeys
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

version 2.1-2 fixes an issue on x86_64 builders and a segfault. Initial release
of pam_yubikey for Fedora. Initial release of pam_yubikey for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498277 - Review Request: pam_yubico - A Pluggable Authentication Module for yubikeys
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498277
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 peppy-0.9.27-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4846)
 Editor written in python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

peppy - Editor written in python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497572 - Review Request: peppy - Editor written in python
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497572
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Catalyst-View-Mason-0.17-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4771)
 Mason View Class
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500046 - Review Request: perl-Catalyst-View-Mason - Mason View Class
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500046
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Class-Inspector-1.24-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4856)
 Get information about a class and its structure
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Ralf Cors?pius <corsepiu at fedoraproject.org> - 1.24-1
- Upstream update.
- Remove Class-Inspector-1.23.diff.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTML-Defang-1.01-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4688)
 Cleans HTML and CSS of executable contents
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500036 - Review Request: perl-HTML-Defang - Cleans HTML and CSS of executable contents
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500036
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Net-Amazon-0.50-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4798)
 Framework for accessing amazon.com via REST
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500038 - Review Request: perl-Net-Amazon - Framework for accessing amazon.com via REST
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500038
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-Emoticon-0.04-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4837)
 Factory class for Yahoo! and MSN emoticons
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500039 - Review Request: perl-Text-Emoticon - Factory class for Yahoo! and MSN emoticons
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500039
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-XML-Atom-0.35-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4779)
 Atom feed and API implementation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500037 - Review Request: perl-XML-Atom - Atom feed and API implementation
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500037
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-basemap-0.99-7.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4860)
 Plots data on map projections (with continental and political boundaries)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixing a packaging error resulting in import failure.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Jef Spaleta <jspaleta AT fedoraproject DOT org> - 0.99-7
- Patch to add additional dap files where were not being included before
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499572 - import fails
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499572
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-kiwi-1.9.25-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4714)
 Framework for Python GUI applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream 1.9.25
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Konstantin Ryabitsev <icon at fedoraproject.org> - 1.9.25-1
- Upstream 1.9.25
- Added Advanced Search in search dialogs
- Added initial support for loading GtkBuilder files
- Added multi-line capability in ComboEntry options
- Bugfixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qgit-2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4722)
 GUI browser for git repositories
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- update to 2.3 - fixes the QT "corrupted internal representation" bug
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 10 2009 Dan Horak <dan[at]danny.cz> 2.3-1
- update to upstream version 2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qt-4.5.1-10.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4844)
 Qt toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10
- improved kde4_plugins patch, skip expensive/unneeded canonicalPath
* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-9
- include kde4 plugin path by default (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-8
- fix invalid assumptions about mysql_config --libs (bug #440673)
- fix %files breakage from 4.5.1-5
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-7
- -devel: Provides: qt4-devel%{?_isa} ...
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-6
- drop useless hunk of qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1-enable_ft_lcdfilter.patch
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-5
- -devel: Provides: *-static for libQtUiTools.a
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-4
- qt-doc noarch
- qt-demos, qt-examples (split from -doc)
- (cosmetic) re-order subpkgs in alphabetical order
- drop unused profile.d bits
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-3
- enable FT_LCD_FILTER (uses freetype subpixel filters if available at runtime)
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-2
- apply upstream patch to fix the svg rendering regression
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-1
- 4.5.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 2 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rapidsvn-0.9.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4694)
 Graphical interface for the Subversion revision control system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest RapidSVN release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 14 2009 Tim Jackson <rpm at timj.co.uk> 0.9.8-1
- Update to v0.9.8
- License is now GPLv3+
- Update .desktop file categories (#487867)
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.6-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-rufus-scheduler-2.0.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4756)
 Scheduler for Ruby (at, cron and every jobs)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Release 2.0.1 of Rufus Scheduler. First official build of rubygem-rufus-
scheduler.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 10 2009 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 2.0.1-1
- Release 2.0.1 of Rufus Scheduler.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 seamonkey-1.1.16-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4793)
 Web browser, e-mail, news, IRC client, HTML editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Kai Engert <kaie at redhat.com> 1.1.16-1
- Update to 1.1.16
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498718 - seamonkey is not up to date with bug fixes
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498718
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 selinux-policy-3.5.13-59.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4730)
 SELinux policy configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Fix /sbin/ip6tables-save context   - Fix milter policy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Miroslav Grepl <mgrepl at redhat.com> 3.5.13-59
- Fix /sbin/ip6tables-save context
- Fix milter policy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 shorewall-4.2.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4862)
 An iptables front end for firewall configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to upstream bugfix version 4.2.8. Release notes here:
http://www1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/4.2/shorewall-4.2.8/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.8-1
- Update to version 4.2.8
- Update shorewall-perl to 4.2.8.2
- Use global instead of define in macros to comply with packaging guidelines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 slapi-nis-0.15-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4107)
 NIS Server and Schema Compatibility plugins for Directory Server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update expands the functionality of the module by adding the ability to
recursively follow references through the directory, and corrects module bugs
which could lead to server crashes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.15-1
- fix %deref and %referred to fail rather than return a valid-but-empty
  result when they fail to evaluate (reported by Rob Crittenden)
* Wed May  6 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.14-1
- correctly handle being loaded but disabled (#499404)
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.13-1
- update to 0.13, reworking %link() to correct some bugs (#498432)
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.12-1
- correct test suite failures that 0.11 started triggering
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.11-1
- update to 0.11 (#497904)
* Wed Mar  4 2009 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.10-1
- update to 0.10
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.9-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497904 - Crash on first ypcat
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497904
  [ 2 ] Bug #498432 - deref_r can cause ns-slapd to crash
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498432
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 unoconv-0.3-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4774)
 Tool to convert between any document format supported by OpenOffice.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

unoconv converts between any document format that OpenOffice.org understands. It
uses OpenOffice.org's UNO bindings for non-interactive conversion of documents.
Supported document formats include Open Document Format (.odf), MS Word (.doc),
MS Office Open/MS OOXML (.xml), Portable Document Format (.pdf), HTML, XHTML,
RTF, Docbook (.xml), and more.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499749 - Review Request: unoconv - Tool to convert between any document format supported by OpenOffice.org
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499749
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xchat-gnome-0.24.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4761)
 GNOME front-end to xchat
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 10 2009 Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org> - 0.24.1-2
- Add patch to fix topic entry bug. (#483839)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #483839 - Topic changes get truncated at cursor position
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483839
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xfce4-cellmodem-plugin-0.0.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4725)
 Cell Modem monitor plugin for the Xfce panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The cellmodem plugin is a monitoring plugin for cellular modems.  It reports
provider and signal quality for GPRS/UMTS(3G)/HSDPA(3.5G) modem cards. It works
with (mostly) all cards which support an out-of-band channel for monitoring
purposes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499281 - Review Request: xfce4-cellmodem-plugin - Cell Modem monitor plugin for the Xfce panel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499281
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xfce4-radio-plugin-0.4.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4805)
 Video4linux radio device control plugin for the Xfce panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Xfce panel plugin to control your V4l radio device. To run it, all  you need is
the Xfce panel and a properly configured V4l radio device.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499283 - Review Request: xfce4-radio-plugin - V4l radio device control plugin for the Xfce panel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499283
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xorg-x11-drv-s3virge-1.10.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4829)
 Xorg X11 s3virge video driver
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes 24+32 framebuffer modes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.10.2-1
- s3virge 1.10.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #487422 - Xorg fails to start without xorg.conf: Internal error: invalid bpp (32) in S3VScreenInit
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487422
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 12 04:13:55 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:13:55 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090512041356.9B4CA10F895@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    FlightGear-1.9.1-4.fc11
    SimGear-1.9.1-5.fc11
    armstrong-0.2.6-6.fc11
    b43-fwcutter-011-5.fc11
    backintime-0.9.24-1.fc11
    bibtex2html-1.93-3.fc11
    conky-1.7.0-1.fc11
    creox-0.2.2-0.2.rc2.fc11
    dblatex-0.2.10-2.fc11
    emelfm2-0.6.0-1.fc11
    fedora-devshell-0.1.1-2.fc11
    file-browser-applet-0.6.2-1.fc11
    gcin-1.4.5-2.fc11
    gcolor2-0.4-1.fc11
    glista-0.4-2.fc11
    gnome-applet-alarm-clock-0.2.5-1.fc11
    gparted-0.4.5-1.fc11
    gputils-0.13.7-1.fc11
    gsoap-2.7.13-1.fc11
    ibus-chewing-1.0.9.20090508-1.fc11
    iptux-0.4.5-2.fc11
    iwl3945-firmware-15.32.2.9-1.fc11
    jack-keyboard-2.5-2.fc11
    kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kde-plasma-stasks-0.5.1-2.fc11
    kde-plasma-yawp-0.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-2.fc11
    kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc11
    kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc11
    kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdepim-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc11
    ksh-20090505-1.fc11
    lxde-common-0.4-2.fc11
    mingw32-openssl-0.9.8j-6.fc11
    pam_yubico-2.1-2.fc11
    peppy-0.9.27-3.fc11
    perl-Catalyst-View-Mason-0.17-1.fc11
    perl-HTML-Defang-1.01-1.fc11
    perl-Net-Amazon-0.50-1.fc11
    perl-Text-Emoticon-0.04-1.fc11
    perl-XML-Atom-0.35-1.fc11
    plplot-5.9.3-2.fc11
    python-kiwi-1.9.25-1.fc11
    qgit-2.3-1.fc11
    qt-4.5.1-10.fc11
    rapidsvn-0.9.8-1.fc11
    rubygem-gettext-2.0.3-1.fc11
    rubygem-locale-2.0.3-1.fc11
    rubygem-rufus-scheduler-2.0.1-1.fc11
    seamonkey-1.1.16-1.fc11
    shorewall-4.2.8-1.fc11
    unoconv-0.3-3.fc11
    xfce4-cddrive-plugin-0.0.1-1.fc11
    xfce4-cellmodem-plugin-0.0.5-1.fc11
    xfce4-notifyd-0.1.0-1.fc11
    xfce4-radio-plugin-0.4.1-1.fc11
    xorg-x11-server-1.6.1-14.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 FlightGear-1.9.1-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4815)
 The FlightGear Flight Simulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Fabrice Bellet <fabrice at bellet.info> 1.9.1-4
- Rebuilt to fix bz#498584
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498584 - FlightGear 1.9.1 refuses to start up
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498584
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 SimGear-1.9.1-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4795)
 Simulation library components
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Fabrice Bellet <fabrice at bellet.info> 1.9.1-5
- Rebuilt to fix bz#498584
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498584 - FlightGear 1.9.1 refuses to start up
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498584
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 armstrong-0.2.6-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4773)
 Powerful music sequencing library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update enables SSE optimizations on supported architectures.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 10 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com>  0.2.6-6
- Rebuild
* Sun May 10 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com>  0.2.6-5
- Rebuild against new boost (on F-12)
- Re-enable sse optimizations on supported architectures
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 b43-fwcutter-011-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4713)
 Firmware extraction tool for Broadcom wireless driver
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Build with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 011-5
- Build with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499696 - b43-fwcutter not built with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499696
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 backintime-0.9.24-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4822)
 Simple backup system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

from .22 to .24
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-2
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bibtex2html-1.93-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4807)
 Collection of tools for translating from BibTeX to HTML
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Collection of tools for translating from BibTeX to HTML.  They allow to produce,
from a set of bibliography files in BibTeX  format, a bibliography in HTML
format.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490576 - Review Request: bibtex2html - Collection of tools for translating from BibTeX to HTML
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490576
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 conky-1.7.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4726)
 A system monitor for X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar at redhat.com> - 1.7.0-1
- Update to 1.7.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 creox-0.2.2-0.2.rc2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4706)
 Real-time Sound Processor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Creox is a real-time sound processor. You can plug your electric guitar or any
other musical instrument directly to the PC's sound card and start experimenting
with various sound effects. Creox has a nice user-friendly GUI, a preset
support, a low-latency DSP engine and each effect parameter can be altered "on
the fly".    As the creox is a JACK application, the output sound can be routed
to the other JACK-aware applications and the input audio can be taken as the
output from the other JACK client.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497035 - Review Request: creox - Real-time Sound Processor
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497035
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dblatex-0.2.10-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4864)
 DocBook to LaTeX/ConTeXt Publishing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

see:http://dblatex.sourceforge.net/html/release-notes/sec-changes-0210.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 10 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.2.10-2
- remove dblatex-0.2.9-xetex.patch
* Sun May 10 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.2.10-1
- Update to 0.2.10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 emelfm2-0.6.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4747)
 File manager that implements the popular two-pane design
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update upgrades emelfm2 to a new upstream version with lots of enhancements
and fixes. The package also creates the debuginfo correctly now.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  9 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.6.0-1
- Update 0.6.0
- Patch to fix segfault in e2_upgrade.so
- Enable the tracker plugin
* Fri May  8 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.5.1-2
- Patch to not strip binaries before rpmbuild creates the -debuginfo subpackage (#499885)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499885 - emelfm2-debuginfo created from stripped binaries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499885
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fedora-devshell-0.1.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4801)
 Fedora Developer's Toolbox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Yaakov M. Nemoy <ynemoy at fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.1-2
- adds explicit requires, seems rpm fails at python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499769 - pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: python-dateutil
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499769
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 file-browser-applet-0.6.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4724)
 File Browser Applet for the GNOME Panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Deji Akingunola <dakingun at gmail.com> - 0.6.2-1
- Update to 0.6.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gcin-1.4.5-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4833)
 Input method for Traditional Chinese
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 1.4.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Chung-Yen Chang <candyz0416 at gmail.com> - 1.4.5-2
- remove gtk_bug_fix.so and rebuild
* Thu May  7 2009 Chung-Yen Chang <candyz0416 at gmail.com> - 1.4.5-1
- update to 1.4.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gcolor2-0.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4785)
 A simple color selector for GTK+2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

gcolor2 is a simple color selector that was originally based on gcolor, ported
to use GTK+2, and now has a completely new UI.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499214 - Review Request: gcolor2 - A simple color selector for GTK+2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499214
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 glista-0.4-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4781)
 Simple personal to-do list manager or task tracking tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Glista aims to be a very simple personal to-do list manager or task tracking
tool that does what it's supposed to, and does not get in your way. The main
focus of Glista is on staying a very simple tool.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499125 - Review Request: glista - Simple personal to-do list manager or task tracking tool
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499125
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnome-applet-alarm-clock-0.2.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4847)
 Alarm clock for the GNOME panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Alarm Clock is a fully-featured alarm clock for your GNOME panel. It's easy to
use yet powerful with support for multiple repeatable alarms, as well as
snoozing and a flexible notification system.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499132 - Review Request: gnome-applet-alarm-clock - Alarm clock for your GNOME panel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499132
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gparted-0.4.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4810)
 Gnome Partition Editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  9 2009 Deji Akingunola <dakingun at gmail.com> - 0.4.5-1
- New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gputils-0.13.7-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4789)
 Development utilities for Microchip (TM) PIC (TM) microcontrollers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Here is where you give an explanation of your update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Roy Rankin <rrankin[AT]ihug[DOT]com[DOT]au> 0.13.7-1
- New upstream version with
    Added support for all processors supported by MPLAB 8.20 (except eeprom16 and related).
    Added support for "LIST M=?" directive.
    Fixed several bugs.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gsoap-2.7.13-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4765)
 Generator Tools for Coding SOAP/XML Web Services in C and C++
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updated to gSOAP 2.7.13
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 <matt at redhat> - 2.7.13-1
- Updated to gsoap 2.7.13
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498731 - [new version] please, update to 2.7.13
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498731
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-chewing-1.0.9.20090508-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4704)
 The Chewing engine for IBus input platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Fix IBus google code issue 369:    Now commit is forced when switch of ibus-
chewing or current application loses focus.  - New ibus-chewing.png is
contribute by WM.  - input-keyboard.png is no longer needed and removed.  -
ibus-engine-chewing -v option now need an integer as verbose level.  - ibus-
chewing.schemas is now generated.  - Fix some CMake modules bugs.   ibus-
chewing-1.0.8 provides plainZhuyin support and fix some minor bug of
next_version targets.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.9.20090508-1
Now commit is forced when switch of ibus-chewing or current application loses focus.
- New ibus-chewing.png is contribute by WM.
- input-keyboard.png is no longer needed and removed.
- ibus-engine-chewing -v option now need an integer as verbose level.
- ibus-chewing.schemas is now generated.
- Fix some CMake modules bugs.
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.8.20090428-1
Fix the errors which Funda Wang as pointing out:
- Move src/chewing.xml.in to data/
- Fixed some typo in next_version targets.
- Remove GConf2 package requirement, while add gconftool-2 requirement.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 iptux-0.4.5-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4710)
 A software for sharing in LAN
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is the first build for iptux on Fedora 11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 iwl3945-firmware-15.32.2.9-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4778)
 Firmware for Intel? PRO/Wireless 3945 A/B/G network adaptors
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Firmware update from Intel -- "More protection against NMIs"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> 15.32.2.9-1
- Update to 15.32.2.9.
- Add .fc11 tag.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498270 - [RFE] update to 15.32.2.9
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498270
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jack-keyboard-2.5-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4744)
 Virtual keyboard for JACK MIDI
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

jack-keyboard is a virtual MIDI keyboard - a program that allows you to send
JACK MIDI events using your PC keyboard. It's somewhat similar to vkeybd, except
it uses JACK MIDI instead of ALSA, and the default keyboard mapping is much
better - it uses the same layout as trackers (like Impulse Tracker) did, so you
have two and half octaves under your fingers.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499743 - Review Request: jack-keyboard - Virtual keyboard for JACK MIDI
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499743
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-stasks-0.5.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4742)
 Alternate Task-Switcher plasma applet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498306 - Review Request: kde-plasma-stasks - Alternate Task-Switcher plasma applet
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498306
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-yawp-0.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4842)
 Yet Another Weather Plasmoid
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This colorful plasmoid shows weather maps, reports and forecasts.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499531 - Review Request: kde-plasma-yawp - Yet Another Weather Plasmoid
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499531
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- #496447 -  fix disabling konsole's flow control
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- Requires: oxygen-icon-theme >= 4.2.2
- fix oxygen-cursor-themes noarch'ness
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- include more(all) csharp/qyoto .pc files snarfed from trunk/,
  to match how everyone (except upstream) is shipping (#490555)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- better fix for strcasestr detection
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-13
- upstream patch to fix GCC4.4 crashes in kjs
  (kdebug:189809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 PIM (Personal Information Manager) applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-4
- drop extraneous BR's, including libmal-devel (not currently used)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ksh-20090505-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4733)
 The Original ATT Korn Shell
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhalvink at redhat.com> - 20090505-1
- updated to 2009-05-05
* Tue May  5 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at reshat.com> - 20090501-2
- skip release -1 because of broken koji
* Tue May  5 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhalvink at redhat.com> - 20090501-1
- updated to 2009-05-01
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxde-common-0.4-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4703)
 Default configuration files for LXDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version 0.4. lxde-settings has been renamed to lxde-settings-daemon
and got it's own package. The obsolete config file
/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default has been removed from this package.  This update
fixes the upgrade path from the 0.3.2.1 release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4-2
- Fix Provides to allow proper upgrade
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4-1
- Update to 0.4
- Require lxmenu-data and lxde-settings-daemon
- Drop obsolete config file /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-openssl-0.9.8j-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4772)
 MinGW port of the OpenSSL toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Add the file include/openssl/applink.c to the package which is necessary when
using OpenSSL in applications compiled with a different compiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  9 2009 Erik van Pienbroek <epienbro at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.8j-6
- Add the file include/openssl/applink.c to the package (BZ #499934)
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Erik van Pienbroek <epienbro at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.8j-5
- Fixed %defattr line
- Added -static subpackage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499934 - applink.c not installed
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499934
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pam_yubico-2.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4839)
 A Pluggable Authentication Module for yubikeys
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

version 2.1-2 fixes an issue on x86_64 builders and a segfault. Initial release
of pam_yubikey for Fedora. Initial release of pam_yubikey for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498277 - Review Request: pam_yubico - A Pluggable Authentication Module for yubikeys
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498277
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 peppy-0.9.27-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4693)
 Editor written in python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

peppy - Editor written in python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497572 - Review Request: peppy - Editor written in python
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497572
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Catalyst-View-Mason-0.17-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4717)
 Mason View Class
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500046 - Review Request: perl-Catalyst-View-Mason - Mason View Class
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500046
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTML-Defang-1.01-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4685)
 Cleans HTML and CSS of executable contents
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500036 - Review Request: perl-HTML-Defang - Cleans HTML and CSS of executable contents
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500036
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Net-Amazon-0.50-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4775)
 Framework for accessing amazon.com via REST
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500038 - Review Request: perl-Net-Amazon - Framework for accessing amazon.com via REST
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500038
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-Emoticon-0.04-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4697)
 Factory class for Yahoo! and MSN emoticons
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500039 - Review Request: perl-Text-Emoticon - Factory class for Yahoo! and MSN emoticons
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500039
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-XML-Atom-0.35-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4851)
 Atom feed and API implementation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500037 - Review Request: perl-XML-Atom - Atom feed and API implementation
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500037
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 plplot-5.9.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4769)
 Library of functions for making scientific plots
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 5.9.3 Update to 5.9.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 5.9.3-2
- Also obsolete plplot-gnome-devel
* Mon May  4 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 5.9.3-1
- Update to 5.9.3
- Drop gnat-4.4 and f77 patches fixed upstream
- Updated multiarch and test patches
- Add patch to fix up libnistcd.so soversion
- Convert some doc files to UTF-8
- Add lua and lua-devel sub-packages
- Remove rpaths
- Drop gcw driver and pygcw/gnome bindings deprecated upstream
- Drop gd driver deprecated upstream
- Move ldconfig run to plplot-libs, and add to plplot-wxGTK
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com>
- Only disable ocaml support on sparc64, s390, s390x
* Thu Apr 16 2009 S390x secondary arch maintainer <fedora-s390x at lists.fedoraproject.org>
- ExcludeArch sparc64, s390, s390x as we don't have OCaml on those archs
  (added sparc64 per request from the sparc maintainer)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-kiwi-1.9.25-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4855)
 Framework for Python GUI applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream 1.9.25
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Konstantin Ryabitsev <icon at fedoraproject.org> - 1.9.25-1
- Upstream 1.9.25
- Added Advanced Search in search dialogs
- Added initial support for loading GtkBuilder files
- Added multi-line capability in ComboEntry options
- Bugfixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qgit-2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4824)
 GUI browser for git repositories
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- update to 2.3 - fixes the QT "corrupted internal representation" bug
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 10 2009 Dan Horak <dan[at]danny.cz> 2.3-1
- update to upstream version 2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qt-4.5.1-10.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4813)
 Qt toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10
- improved kde4_plugins patch, skip expensive/unneeded canonicalPath
* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-9
- include kde4 plugin path by default (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-8
- fix invalid assumptions about mysql_config --libs (bug #440673)
- fix %files breakage from 4.5.1-5
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-7
- -devel: Provides: qt4-devel%{?_isa} ...
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-6
- drop useless hunk of qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1-enable_ft_lcdfilter.patch
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-5
- -devel: Provides: *-static for libQtUiTools.a
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-4
- qt-doc noarch
- qt-demos, qt-examples (split from -doc)
- (cosmetic) re-order subpkgs in alphabetical order
- drop unused profile.d bits
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-3
- enable FT_LCD_FILTER (uses freetype subpixel filters if available at runtime)
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-2
- apply upstream patch to fix the svg rendering regression
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-1
- 4.5.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #440673 - qt: makes incorrect assumptions aboug mysql_config --libs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440673
  [ 2 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 3 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rapidsvn-0.9.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4820)
 Graphical interface for the Subversion revision control system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest RapidSVN release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 14 2009 Tim Jackson <rpm at timj.co.uk> 0.9.8-1
- Update to v0.9.8
- License is now GPLv3+
- Update .desktop file categories (#487867)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-gettext-2.0.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4804)
 RubyGem of Localization Library and Tools for Ruby
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version 2.0.3 is released.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ios.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 2.0.3-1
- 2.0.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-locale-2.0.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4804)
 Pure ruby library which provides basic APIs for localization
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version 2.0.3 is released.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ios.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 2.0.3-1
- 2.0.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-rufus-scheduler-2.0.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4836)
 Scheduler for Ruby (at, cron and every jobs)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Release 2.0.1 of Rufus Scheduler. First official build of rubygem-rufus-
scheduler.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 10 2009 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 2.0.1-1
- Release 2.0.1 of Rufus Scheduler.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 seamonkey-1.1.16-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4732)
 Web browser, e-mail, news, IRC client, HTML editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Kai Engert <kaie at redhat.com> 1.1.16-1
- Update to 1.1.16
* Wed May  6 2009 Martin Stransky <stransky at redhat.com> 1.1.15-4
- build with -fno-strict-aliasing (#468415)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 shorewall-4.2.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4799)
 An iptables front end for firewall configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to upstream bugfix version 4.2.8. Release notes here:
http://www1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/4.2/shorewall-4.2.8/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.8-1
- Update to version 4.2.8
- Update shorewall-perl to 4.2.8.2
- Use global instead of define in macros to comply with packaging guidelines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 unoconv-0.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4800)
 Tool to convert between any document format supported by OpenOffice.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

unoconv converts between any document format that OpenOffice.org understands. It
uses OpenOffice.org's UNO bindings for non-interactive conversion of documents.
Supported document formats include Open Document Format (.odf), MS Word (.doc),
MS Office Open/MS OOXML (.xml), Portable Document Format (.pdf), HTML, XHTML,
RTF, Docbook (.xml), and more.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499749 - Review Request: unoconv - Tool to convert between any document format supported by OpenOffice.org
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499749
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xfce4-cddrive-plugin-0.0.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4814)
 Xfce panel plugin to open or close a CD-ROM drive tray
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This plugin puts a button in the Xfce panel to open or close a CD-ROM drive
tray. Additionally, the button icon reports the content of the drive.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499279 - Review Request: xfce4-cddrive-plugin - Xfce panel plugin to open or close a CD-ROM drive tray
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499279
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xfce4-cellmodem-plugin-0.0.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4745)
 Cell Modem monitor plugin for the Xfce panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The cellmodem plugin is a monitoring plugin for cellular modems.  It reports
provider and signal quality for GPRS/UMTS(3G)/HSDPA(3.5G) modem cards. It works
with (mostly) all cards which support an out-of-band channel for monitoring
purposes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499281 - Review Request: xfce4-cellmodem-plugin - Cell Modem monitor plugin for the Xfce panel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499281
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xfce4-notifyd-0.1.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4698)
 Simple notification daemon for Xfce
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Xfce4-notifyd is a simple, visually-appealing notification daemon for Xfce that
implements the freedesktop.org desktop notifications specification.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499282 - Review Request: xfce4-notifyd - Simple notification daemon for Xfce
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499282
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xfce4-radio-plugin-0.4.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4720)
 Video4linux radio device control plugin for the Xfce panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Xfce panel plugin to control your V4l radio device. To run it, all  you need is
the Xfce panel and a properly configured V4l radio device.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499283 - Review Request: xfce4-radio-plugin - V4l radio device control plugin for the Xfce panel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499283
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xorg-x11-server-1.6.1-14.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4764)
 X.Org X11 X server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Don't synthesise a mouse section if an unreferenced synaptics entry is found in
the xorg.conf.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.6.1-14
- xserver-1.6.1-synaptics.patch: Don't synthesize a mouse section if
  unreferenced synaptics devices are found in the xorg.conf (#499792)
* Fri May  8 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.6.1-13
- xserver-1.6.1-vt-switch.patch: Synthesize key releases on vt switch away,
  not just on return.  Fixes CPU usage bug while switched away. (#484393)
* Thu May  7 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.6.1-12
- xserver-1.6.1-nouveau.patch: AIGLX setup failure is not an error for
  nouveau.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499792 - xorg.conf confiuration section for synaptics no longer used with xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.1.0-5
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499792
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From haase.niels at googlemail.com  Tue May 12 05:33:26 2009
From: haase.niels at googlemail.com (Niels Haase)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 07:33:26 +0200
Subject: Hi
In-Reply-To: <4A08DFD1.2010601@gmail.com>
References: <4A073011.3000002@gmail.com>
	<1242058588.2923.569.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A08DFD1.2010601@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <571dcba60905112233y32f3c759w6e943ab86a211edc@mail.gmail.com>

Will,

your help is always welcome!
Maybe you can take a look at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Components_and_Triagers to
see with components/triagers need need help with ther bugs. Anyway,
would nice to see you at the triage day meeting today.

Regards,
Niels

2009/5/12 Will <snow.open.ski at gmail.com>:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 15:50 -0400, Will wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> My name is Will Morris. I am a Fedora Ambassador. I wanted to find a way
> to get more involved with Fedora while I am getting prepared for my
> events as an Ambassador. I look forward to helping others with their
> problems, and learning a lot, too. If you have any questions please feel
> free to ask.
>
>
> Welcome, Will. Was there any particular part of QA / Bugzappers you were
> interested in joining in with? Thanks!
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't know at this point. I am going to be at the meeting tomarrow at 10
> EST. I hope to stay around for the triage hour afterwards to learn about how
> to work on bugs.? I seem to be interested in working on the X11 system and
> grub. But that might change as things go on.
>
> Will
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



From bobgus at rcn.com  Tue May 12 06:05:24 2009
From: bobgus at rcn.com (Bob Gustafson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 01:05:24 -0500
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 16:42 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>  before i dig myself in too deep here, is there a
> newbie-level doc that shows how to install, configure and test a
> couple simple examples of asterisk under f11?  thanks.
> 
> rday
> --

There is a book on-line "Asterisk - The Future of Telephony", 2nd ed.
(604 pages) free http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org/ (See link in the
middle of the page) This doc is for version 1.4, but for a newbie, there
isn't much difference between 1.4 and 1.6

You might experiment with Asterisk using a system other than F11.
Asterisk is complex in itself, and you want to be confident that you are
fighting Asterisk configuration issues rather than F11 bugs.

However, F9/F10 uses a buggy version of Asterisk (1.605). It hasn't been
upgraded to get the fix for a few months - 1.609 has the fix.



From frankly3d at gmail.com  Tue May 12 08:18:41 2009
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3D))
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:18:41 +0100
Subject: Turning Off Sendmail In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A0899D6.2090901@wolves.durham.nc.us>
References: <4A0892BF.6050908@speakeasy.net>
	<4A0899D6.2090901@wolves.durham.nc.us>
Message-ID: <4A0930E1.2030301@gmail.com>

On 11/05/09 22:34, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:

>
> Personally, I have /etc/aliases send me root's mail and then I have
> procmail sort it into a separate Thunderbird folder for special attention.
>

That is something I would like to learn,
was\is there a url for your setup?

Frank

-- 
msn: frankly3d,  skype: frankly3d,
Still Learning, Unicode where possible



From adrin.jalali at gmail.com  Tue May 12 08:48:11 2009
From: adrin.jalali at gmail.com (Adrin Jalali)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:18:11 +0430
Subject: repo issue
Message-ID: <8049a2b40905120148k772cc5aeg24d83c35b32edd98@mail.gmail.com>

hi,
I was wondering why there are some packages in updates-testing repo of F11
and still that repo is not enabled in clients. Or if they are intended to be
pushed to updates repo, why the updates repo is not enabled.

Best ,
Adrin.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090512/a15f0c75/attachment.htm>

From adrin.jalali at gmail.com  Tue May 12 08:50:06 2009
From: adrin.jalali at gmail.com (Adrin Jalali)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:20:06 +0430
Subject: Hibernate and Suspend issue.
Message-ID: <8049a2b40905120150v669eaf7eie7f700abf1173e9b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.
Don't you think that when the computer restores from suspension of
hibernation, by default screen should be locked? Is there anywhere to set
this?

Best,
Adrin.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090512/a141f4f3/attachment.htm>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Tue May 12 08:51:39 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:51:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 12 May 2009, Bob Gustafson wrote:

> There is a book on-line "Asterisk - The Future of Telephony", 2nd
> ed. (604 pages) free http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org/ (See link in
> the middle of the page) This doc is for version 1.4, but for a
> newbie, there isn't much difference between 1.4 and 1.6
>
> You might experiment with Asterisk using a system other than F11.
> Asterisk is complex in itself, and you want to be confident that you
> are fighting Asterisk configuration issues rather than F11 bugs.
>
> However, F9/F10 uses a buggy version of Asterisk (1.605). It hasn't
> been upgraded to get the fix for a few months - 1.609 has the fix.

  at the moment, f11 has asterisk-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.x86_64 on my
system, so i'm guessing that doesn't have the aforementioned bug.  and
as for testing this on something other than an F11 system, actually,
i'm pre-pub tech reviewing an upcoming asterisk book and part of my
duties is to verify that at least the first few exercises work on
fedora, so i really have some incentive to make sure this works on
fedora.  :-)

  at the moment, it *appears* that my problem is that asterisk has
been broken down into numerous packages for fedora packaging, and i
need to determine what packages to install along with the core package
mentioned above.  that means that i'm going to end up suggesting some
text along the lines of, "if you're trying to play with asterisk on
fedora 11, it's not enough to just install the base package, you'll
need to install a number of other packages," followed by some kind of
recipe for determining which ones.

  so if someone has been down that road already, i'm open to
suggestions.  otherwise, i'll just play until i figure it out.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From axel.azerty at laposte.net  Tue May 12 08:27:33 2009
From: axel.azerty at laposte.net (Axel)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:27:33 +0200
Subject: VPN connections in NetworkManager have strange behaviour
Message-ID: <4A0932F5.4020700@laposte.net>

I have a problem when using NetworkManager to connect to VPN 
connections, on an up to date fedora 11 system.
I previously (ubuntu gutsy) used to connect to a vpnc (VPN Compatible 
Cisco) server with the command line tool.

Using the command line still works with Fedora 11. When I try to switch 
to the NetworkManager builtin VPN manager, I manage to connect to the 
remote VPN server, but no network activity can be made. It s maybe a 
problem with the routes.

When connecting to the VPN with the vpnc command line tool, no specific 
configuration (but the group & user login/password) is defined. No 
specific routing configuration has been made.

192.168.246.254 is the gateway of the LAN.
62.39.X.X is the remote VPN server.

[root at axel-asus axel]# LANG="C" netstat -ren
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use 
Iface
62.39.X.X     192.168.246.254 255.255.255.255 UGH   0      0        0 eth0
192.168.246.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     1      0        0 eth0
192.168.122.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 
virbr0
0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 tun0

The tun0 adapter address becomes 10.240.200.10/255.255.255.255
I manage to access to remote hosts (10.240.0.0/16 range). In other 
words, out-of-the-box vpnc tool works well.


When connecting with the NetworkManager, the routing table is different :

[root at axel-asus axel]# LANG="C" netstat -ren
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use 
Iface
62.39.X.X  192.168.246.254 255.255.255.255 UGH   0      0        0 eth0
192.168.246.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     1      0        0 eth0
10.240.200.0    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 tun0
192.168.122.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 
virbr0
0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 tun0

And the netmask of the tun0 adapter is different too : 
10.240.200.10/255.255.255.0

And I cannot access 10.240.0.0/16 hosts.

"ignore the routes" option is unchecked, "only use the connection for 
same network resource" option is unchecked, both in "IPv4 Settings" tab, 
"Routes" button. I tried to check them, both, and only one, without 
successful result, though the routing table is different for each setting.


So is there something wrong in my NetworkManager settings ?

Thanks for your help.



From Samba30i at aim.com  Tue May 12 09:00:08 2009
From: Samba30i at aim.com (Greg)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:00:08 +1000
Subject: repo issue
In-Reply-To: <8049a2b40905120148k772cc5aeg24d83c35b32edd98@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8049a2b40905120148k772cc5aeg24d83c35b32edd98@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A093A98.7070304@aim.com>

On 12/05/2009 6:48 PM, Adrin Jalali wrote:
> hi,
> I was wondering why there are some packages in updates-testing repo of 
> F11 and still that repo is not enabled in clients. Or if they are 
> intended to be pushed to updates repo, why the updates repo is not 
> enabled.
>
> Best ,
> Adrin
its not that far for the actual release of Fedora11 so they added half 
of the packages to updates-testing instead of pushing them down the 
pipe. Fedora11 is pretty much stable as it is IMO



From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com  Tue May 12 09:00:20 2009
From: gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com (Gianluca Cecchi)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:00:20 +0200
Subject: finger print setup
Message-ID: <561c252c0905120200naebae90h20b32c1defde5fc9@mail.gmail.com>

Today, when new updates were proposed, I saw also the ones about
fprintd and fprintd-pam that I had already installed on my rawhide.
So before applying them, I went to System -> Preferences -> About Me
and I noticed I had only the "change Password.." button at the upper
right corner of the window.
After some seconds I saw two other buttons magically appearing
(related to finger print setup).
I decided to wait and apply the updates before beginning the setup. So
I did and rebooted the system too (with kexec -l before shutdown, for
what it could matter...).
Now I have
fprintd-0.1-9.git04fd09cfa.fc11.x86_64
and
fprintd-pam-0.1-9.git04fd09cfa.fc11.x86_64

But in the same window as before, I don't see the finger print buttons
coming up.... any hints?
Pc is a laptop Dell XPS M1330 that worked almost well with fingerprint
in F10 using thinkfinger (apart from random crash when I used finger
from unlocking the screen saver...)
lsusb gives:

Bus 007 Device 002: ID 0483:2016 SGS Thomson Microelectronics Fingerprint Reader

reading the page for F11 at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Fingerprint it should suffice
the gnome-about me page....
lshal gives this for the reader:

udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_483_2016_noserial'
  info.bus = 'usb_device'  (string)
  info.linux.driver = 'usb'  (string)
  info.parent =
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_1_0000_00_1d_2'
(string)
  info.product = 'Fingerprint Reader'  (string)
  info.subsystem = 'usb_device'  (string)
  info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_483_2016_noserial'
 (string)
  info.vendor = 'SGS Thomson Microelectronics'  (string)
  linux.device_file = '/dev/bus/usb/007/002'  (string)
  linux.hotplug_type = 2  (0x2)  (int)
  linux.subsystem = 'usb'  (string)
  linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb7/7-1'  (string)
  usb_device.bus_number = 7  (0x7)  (int)
  usb_device.can_wake_up = true  (bool)
  usb_device.configuration_value = 1  (0x1)  (int)
  usb_device.device_class = 0  (0x0)  (int)
  usb_device.device_protocol = 0  (0x0)  (int)
  usb_device.device_revision_bcd = 1  (0x1)  (int)
  usb_device.device_subclass = 0  (0x0)  (int)
  usb_device.is_self_powered = false  (bool)
  usb_device.linux.device_number = 2  (0x2)  (int)
  usb_device.linux.sysfs_path =
'/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb7/7-1'  (string)
  usb_device.max_power = 100  (0x64)  (int)
  usb_device.num_configurations = 1  (0x1)  (int)
  usb_device.num_interfaces = 1  (0x1)  (int)
  usb_device.num_ports = 0  (0x0)  (int)
  usb_device.product = 'Fingerprint Reader'  (string)
  usb_device.product_id = 8214  (0x2016)  (int)
  usb_device.speed = 12.0 (12) (double)
  usb_device.vendor = 'SGS Thomson Microelectronics'  (string)
  usb_device.vendor_id = 1155  (0x483)  (int)
  usb_device.version = 1.0 (1) (double)

Thanks in advance,
Gianluca



From adrin.jalali at gmail.com  Tue May 12 09:05:35 2009
From: adrin.jalali at gmail.com (Adrin Jalali)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:35:35 +0430
Subject: repo issue
In-Reply-To: <4A093A98.7070304@aim.com>
References: <8049a2b40905120148k772cc5aeg24d83c35b32edd98@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A093A98.7070304@aim.com>
Message-ID: <8049a2b40905120205p5cf868e6s7b95ee163716047e@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Greg <Samba30i at aim.com> wrote:

>
> its not that far for the actual release of Fedora11 so they added half of
> the packages to updates-testing instead of pushing them down the pipe.
> Fedora11 is pretty much stable as it is IMO
>


Yes, it seems logical, but I think as these repos are now working,
corresponding package should be released to enable them, am I wrong?

Best,
Adrin.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090512/4ba27df7/attachment.htm>

From mefoster at gmail.com  Tue May 12 09:08:10 2009
From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:08:10 +0100
Subject: modeset on/off changes xrandr output
Message-ID: <f58861e00905120208j17e0bf29te61d6d464e15a14c@mail.gmail.com>

I've been looking around and I haven't seen anywhere that this is
documented: if I toggle the modeset flag the output of xrandr changes
radically (this is on fully updated F11 rawhide with Intel graphics):

- Outputs have different names:
  - modeset: VGA1, LVDS1, DVI{1,2}, TV1
  - nomodeset: VGA, LVDS, HDMI-{1,2}, TV
- Maximum virtual size is different:
  - modeset: 8192 x 8192
  - nomodeset: 1920 x 1920 (nb: native resolution is 1920x1200)
- Available resolutions and refresh rates are different, with many
more available with nomodeset
  - e.g., LVDS has only 1920x1200 with modesetting, but six further
resolutions with nomodeset

Is this a known "feature"? Is it documented anywhere?

Thanks,

MEF

-- 
Mary Ellen Foster  --  http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/
ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Tue May 12 09:15:50 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:15:50 +0100
Subject: recent nouveau driver and dual head
Message-ID: <5256d0b0905120215n60de087cs3779d58ffd3efbe7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Is anyone else seeing issues with the current nouveau drivers with
dual head? It was working fine two weeks ago when I was last in the
office but now when I run the "xrandr --output LVDS-0 --left-of VGA-0"
command to move the config from mirrored to spanned I get a corrupted
display.

Peter



From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com  Tue May 12 09:21:12 2009
From: gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com (Gianluca Cecchi)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:21:12 +0200
Subject: finger print setup
In-Reply-To: <561c252c0905120200naebae90h20b32c1defde5fc9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0905120200naebae90h20b32c1defde5fc9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <561c252c0905120221j343aff07ua28f7113e57af708@mail.gmail.com>

also set up authentication with System -> Administration ->
Authentication, checking "Enable Fingerprint reader Support" (strange
that with this disabled I got the button in gnome-about-me before
updating fprintd... )

Then reboot the pc (without kexec but normally).
The situation doesn't change; no button in gnome-about-me
running it directly from command line with strace I can see these
lines if I grep "finger" or "fprint" words, but I don't know if they
are relevant for debugging. Eventually I can attach full strace log

open("/var/lib/PolicyKit-public/org.freedesktop.hal.device-access.fingerprint-reader.defaults-override",
O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat("/usr/share/PolicyKit/policy/net.reactivated.fprint.device.policy",
{st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1416, ...}) = 0
open("/usr/share/PolicyKit/policy/net.reactivated.fprint.device.policy",
O_RDONLY) = 28
open("/var/lib/PolicyKit-public/net.reactivated.fprint.device.verify.defaults-override",
O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/var/lib/PolicyKit-public/net.reactivated.fprint.device.enroll.defaults-override",
O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/var/lib/PolicyKit-public/net.reactivated.fprint.device.setusername.defaults-override",
O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat("/etc/pam.d/gdm-fingerprint", 0x7fffd452d580) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)


Gianluca



From xiashing at gmail.com  Tue May 12 09:27:08 2009
From: xiashing at gmail.com (Xia Shing Zee)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:27:08 +1000
Subject: Turning Off Sendmail In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A0930E1.2030301@gmail.com>
References: <4A0892BF.6050908@speakeasy.net>
	<4A0899D6.2090901@wolves.durham.nc.us> <4A0930E1.2030301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <954b158e0905120227t6cbe99f7m9c5395fbecc96585@mail.gmail.com>

/etc/init.d/sendmail stop

You could put this in a .bashrc file or use chkconfig --level(s?) 0 sendmail

Now I'm not sure if I've got this correct, but test it out yourself anyway.
0 should stop it at boottime. I'm also not sure if it's --level or --levels.

-Xia Shing Zee

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) <
frankly3d at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/05/09 22:34, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
>
>
>> Personally, I have /etc/aliases send me root's mail and then I have
>> procmail sort it into a separate Thunderbird folder for special attention.
>>
>>
> That is something I would like to learn,
> was\is there a url for your setup?
>
> Frank
>
> --
> msn: frankly3d,  skype: frankly3d,
> Still Learning, Unicode where possible
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090512/d8456ee5/attachment.htm>

From xiashing at gmail.com  Tue May 12 09:34:16 2009
From: xiashing at gmail.com (Xia Shing Zee)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:34:16 +1000
Subject: Turning Off Sendmail In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <954b158e0905120227t6cbe99f7m9c5395fbecc96585@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A0892BF.6050908@speakeasy.net>
	<4A0899D6.2090901@wolves.durham.nc.us> <4A0930E1.2030301@gmail.com>
	<954b158e0905120227t6cbe99f7m9c5395fbecc96585@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <954b158e0905120234n6400bd2al303bcaa1ea774a68@mail.gmail.com>

Forgot to add something to the command.

chkconfig --level(s?) 0 sendmail off

"off" is pretty important :P

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Xia Shing Zee <xiashing at gmail.com> wrote:

> /etc/init.d/sendmail stop
>
> You could put this in a .bashrc file or use chkconfig --level(s?) 0
> sendmail
>
> Now I'm not sure if I've got this correct, but test it out yourself anyway.
> 0 should stop it at boottime. I'm also not sure if it's --level or --levels.
>
> -Xia Shing Zee
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) <
> frankly3d at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/05/09 22:34, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Personally, I have /etc/aliases send me root's mail and then I have
>>> procmail sort it into a separate Thunderbird folder for special
>>> attention.
>>>
>>>
>> That is something I would like to learn,
>> was\is there a url for your setup?
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> --
>> msn: frankly3d,  skype: frankly3d,
>> Still Learning, Unicode where possible
>>
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090512/dbeb0cb9/attachment.htm>

From mike at miketc.net  Tue May 12 09:45:40 2009
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:45:40 -0500
Subject: Turning Off Sendmail In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <954b158e0905120227t6cbe99f7m9c5395fbecc96585@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A0892BF.6050908@speakeasy.net>
	<4A0899D6.2090901@wolves.durham.nc.us> <4A0930E1.2030301@gmail.com>
	<954b158e0905120227t6cbe99f7m9c5395fbecc96585@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242121540.12904.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 19:27 +1000, Xia Shing Zee wrote:
> /etc/init.d/sendmail stop
> 
> You could put this in a .bashrc file or use chkconfig --level(s?) 0
> sendmail

To stop a service (sendmail in this case)..

service sendmail stop (or start, restart, etc..)

To turn a service off when booting or changing run levels..


chkconfig sendmail off (turns it off for all runlevels in it's config)

-- 
Mike Chambers
Madisonville, KY

Fedora Project - Bugzapper, Tester, User, etc..
miketc302 at fedoraproject.org



From haase.niels at googlemail.com  Tue May 12 09:49:36 2009
From: haase.niels at googlemail.com (Niels Haase)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:49:36 +0200
Subject: recent nouveau driver and dual head
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0905120215n60de087cs3779d58ffd3efbe7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5256d0b0905120215n60de087cs3779d58ffd3efbe7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <571dcba60905120249n6d20a0eehc1a6667b3b73e0e1@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/12 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>:
> Hi All,
>
> Is anyone else seeing issues with the current nouveau drivers with
> dual head? It was working fine two weeks ago when I was last in the
> office

If start trying the dual head setup with
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-31.20090421git47bb00f.fc11.x86_64 since
27th April, but until now (with every new version of nouveau) it get
it not to work.

See also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497785

Regards,
Niels



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Tue May 12 09:57:50 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:57:50 +0100
Subject: recent nouveau driver and dual head
In-Reply-To: <571dcba60905120249n6d20a0eehc1a6667b3b73e0e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5256d0b0905120215n60de087cs3779d58ffd3efbe7@mail.gmail.com>
	<571dcba60905120249n6d20a0eehc1a6667b3b73e0e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0905120257w3564fbc2p4e0c8c081c0b7b6c@mail.gmail.com>

>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is anyone else seeing issues with the current nouveau drivers with
>> dual head? It was working fine two weeks ago when I was last in the
>> office
>
> If start trying the dual head setup with
> xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-31.20090421git47bb00f.fc11.x86_64 since
> 27th April, but until now (with every new version of nouveau) it get
> it not to work.
>
> See also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497785

I'll check out the older version of the driver. Not sure if its quite
the same issue as it works fine on single mode, just craps out on dual
head.

Peter



From Samba30i at aim.com  Tue May 12 10:06:45 2009
From: Samba30i at aim.com (Greg)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:06:45 +1000
Subject: repo issue
In-Reply-To: <8049a2b40905120205p5cf868e6s7b95ee163716047e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8049a2b40905120148k772cc5aeg24d83c35b32edd98@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A093A98.7070304@aim.com>
	<8049a2b40905120205p5cf868e6s7b95ee163716047e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A094A35.1020106@aim.com>

On 12/05/2009 7:05 PM, Adrin Jalali wrote:
> Yes, it seems logical, but I think as these repos are now working, 
> corresponding package should be released to enable them, am I wrong?
>
> Best,
> Adrin.
all the main repo's will be enabled on the actual release date, but if 
you wanna test packages all you have to do is

yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update ( packagename )



From adrin.jalali at gmail.com  Tue May 12 10:21:22 2009
From: adrin.jalali at gmail.com (Adrin Jalali)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:51:22 +0430
Subject: repo issue
In-Reply-To: <4A094A35.1020106@aim.com>
References: <8049a2b40905120148k772cc5aeg24d83c35b32edd98@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A093A98.7070304@aim.com>
	<8049a2b40905120205p5cf868e6s7b95ee163716047e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A094A35.1020106@aim.com>
Message-ID: <8049a2b40905120321h65d1eb17xa0660cb0531edac5@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Greg <Samba30i at aim.com> wrote:

>
> all the main repo's will be enabled on the actual release date, but if you
> wanna test packages all you have to do is
>
> yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update ( packagename )
>
>
Yes I know. actually I enabled repos permanently from /etc/yum.repos.d/*

Thenks for the explanation.
Adrin.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090512/93ea8ac1/attachment.htm>

From haase.niels at googlemail.com  Tue May 12 11:23:45 2009
From: haase.niels at googlemail.com (Niels Haase)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:23:45 +0200
Subject: recent nouveau driver and dual head
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0905120257w3564fbc2p4e0c8c081c0b7b6c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5256d0b0905120215n60de087cs3779d58ffd3efbe7@mail.gmail.com>
	<571dcba60905120249n6d20a0eehc1a6667b3b73e0e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<5256d0b0905120257w3564fbc2p4e0c8c081c0b7b6c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <571dcba60905120423s8baf058n64b1f8f8160d3892@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/12 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Is anyone else seeing issues with the current nouveau drivers with
>>> dual head? It was working fine two weeks ago when I was last in the
>>> office
>>
>> If start trying the dual head setup with
>> xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-31.20090421git47bb00f.fc11.x86_64 since
>> 27th April, but until now (with every new version of nouveau) it get
>> it not to work.
>>
>> See also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497785
>
> I'll check out the older version of the driver. Not sure if its quite
> the same issue as it works fine on single mode, just craps out on dual
> head.
>

Maybe my last writing was not so clear to understand I think, sorry for that.
The nouveau driver works perfect for me with one screen (the built-in
laptop display) also with KMS. Only the dual screen configuration over
the docking station with two monitors connect breaks the whole X (and
KMS)

--
Regards,
Niels



From xiashing at gmail.com  Tue May 12 11:32:10 2009
From: xiashing at gmail.com (Xia Shing Zee)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:32:10 +1000
Subject: Turning Off Sendmail In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <1242121540.12904.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
References: <4A0892BF.6050908@speakeasy.net>
	<4A0899D6.2090901@wolves.durham.nc.us> <4A0930E1.2030301@gmail.com>
	<954b158e0905120227t6cbe99f7m9c5395fbecc96585@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242121540.12904.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
Message-ID: <954b158e0905120432p41f920b9r3b6446c2006e9c16@mail.gmail.com>

Yeh, cheers, I just forget the flags and syntax of the command occasionally
:P

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Mike Chambers <mike at miketc.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 19:27 +1000, Xia Shing Zee wrote:
> > /etc/init.d/sendmail stop
> >
> > You could put this in a .bashrc file or use chkconfig --level(s?) 0
> > sendmail
>
> To stop a service (sendmail in this case)..
>
> service sendmail stop (or start, restart, etc..)
>
> To turn a service off when booting or changing run levels..
>
>
> chkconfig sendmail off (turns it off for all runlevels in it's config)
>
> --
> Mike Chambers
> Madisonville, KY
>
> Fedora Project - Bugzapper, Tester, User, etc..
> miketc302 at fedoraproject.org
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090512/ad3e9be1/attachment.htm>

From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 12 13:39:29 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:39:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090512 changes
Message-ID: <20090512133929.4DD3B1F8214@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Tue May 12 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Removed package cpan2rpm
Removed package kio_p7zip
Updated Packages:

docbook-dtds-1.0-47.fc11
------------------------
* Mon May 11 2009 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik at redhat.com> - 1.0-47
- Added requires(post) for /bin/chmod (#498680)


fedora-package-config-apt-11-4
------------------------------
* Tue May 05 2009 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net> - 11-4
- Update to F11.


fedora-package-config-smart-11-17
---------------------------------
* Tue May 05 2009 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net> - 11-17
- Switch to stable release.


fedora-release-11-1
-------------------
* Mon May 11 2009 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 11-1
- First attempt at release candidate.
- Drop the compose configs, that's in spin-kickstarts
- Enable fedora and updates repo, disable rawhide


gallery2-2.3-9.fc11
-------------------
* Fri May 01 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-9
- Add rewrite dep for httpauth, BZ 498061.
- Adopt rdieter's symlink handling suggestions from rel-eng #1674.

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-8
- pretrans script logic fix. BZ498019.


giflib-4.1.6-2.fc11
-------------------
* Sat May 09 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 4.1.6-2
- Solved multilib problems with documentation (#465208, #474538)
- Removed static library from giflib-devel package (#225796 #c1)


glibc-2.10.1-1
--------------
* Sun May 10 2009 Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat.com> 2.10.1-1
- fix up getsgent_r and getsgnam_r exports on i?86 and ppc

* Sat May 09 2009 Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat.com> 2.10-2
- update from trunk
  - glibc 2.10 release
  - fix memchr on x86_64 (#499689)


leonidas-backgrounds-11.0.0-1.fc11
----------------------------------
* Sat May 09 2009 Martin Sourada <mso at fedoraproject.org> - 11.0.0-1
- Include the lion design optionally on single screens as well via -lion 
  subpackage
- Split the dual screen images with lion design into -lion-dual subpackage
  to allow having only one of the single screens installed
- Don't forget to own some all used directories not provided by other pkgs


libvirt-0.6.2-8.fc11
--------------------
* Sun May 10 2009 Cole Robinson <crobinso at redhat.com> - 0.6.2-8.fc11
- Don't try to label a disk with no path (e.g. empty cdrom) (bug #499569)

* Thu May 07 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 0.6.2-7.fc11
- Enable migration for qemu 0.10 (bug #499704)


mesa-7.5-0.14.fc11
------------------
* Tue May 05 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 7.5-0.14
- radeon-rewrite.patch: fixes from upstream for rs690 + r200

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 7.5-0.12
- rebase to upstream snapshot + radeon-rewrite

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 7.5-0.13
- radeon fix clip emits

* Thu Apr 16 2009 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 7.5-0.11
- radeon-rewrite-fixes.patch: fix context crash in compiz + r200 fixes

* Tue Apr 14 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 7.5-0.10
- mesa-7.5-get-driver-name.patch: Fix glXGetScreenDriver for DRI2 (#495342)


mock-0.9.16-1.fc11
------------------
* Mon May 11 2009 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 0.9.15-1
- Add configs for F11 (jkeating)

* Mon May 11 2009 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 0.9.16-1
- Make F11 and rawhide build i586 on i386 targets.


selinux-policy-3.6.12-34.fc11
-----------------------------
* Mon May 11 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-34
- Allow rpcd_t to send signals to kernel threads

* Thu May 07 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-31
- Add policy for /var/lib/fprint

* Thu May 07 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-33
- Fix upgrade for F10 to F11

* Tue May 05 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-29
- Allow svirt to manage pci and other sysfs device data

* Tue May 05 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-30
-Remove duplicate line


valgrind-3.4.1-3
----------------
* Mon May 11 2009 Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat.com> 3.4.1-3
- rebuilt against glibc 2.10.1


xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.9-7.fc11
---------------------------
* Fri May 08 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.0.9-7
- xinit-1.0.9-unset.patch: Also unset XDG_SESSION_COOKIE in startx. (#489999)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 2
Modified Packages: 14









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From mclasen at redhat.com  Tue May 12 13:59:54 2009
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:59:54 -0400
Subject: finger print setup
In-Reply-To: <561c252c0905120200naebae90h20b32c1defde5fc9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0905120200naebae90h20b32c1defde5fc9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242136794.2371.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 11:00 +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:

> But in the same window as before, I don't see the finger print buttons
> coming up.... any hints?

Do you have gdm-plugin-fingerprint installed ?



From bobgus at rcn.com  Tue May 12 14:28:06 2009
From: bobgus at rcn.com (Bob Gustafson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:28:06 -0500
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 04:51 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Tue, 12 May 2009, Bob Gustafson wrote:
> 
> > There is a book on-line "Asterisk - The Future of Telephony", 2nd
> > ed. (604 pages) free http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org/ (See link in
> > the middle of the page) This doc is for version 1.4, but for a
> > newbie, there isn't much difference between 1.4 and 1.6
...
>   at the moment, it *appears* that my problem is that asterisk has
> been broken down into numerous packages for fedora packaging, and i
> need to determine what packages to install along with the core package
> mentioned above.  that means that i'm going to end up suggesting some
> text along the lines of, "if you're trying to play with asterisk on
> fedora 11, it's not enough to just install the base package, you'll
> need to install a number of other packages," followed by some kind of
> recipe for determining which ones.

I imagine that when F11 goes golden, and if it does include the 1.6.1
version of Asterisk, it will include all of the necessary packages, or
will 'depend' on them.

My guess is that so much time is being spent on sorting out other Fedora
problems, Asterisk will be whipped into shape at the last moment,
perhaps with a regress to an earlier version.

You are playing with several moving targets.

> 
>   so if someone has been down that road already, i'm open to
> suggestions.  otherwise, i'll just play until i figure it out.
> 
> rday
> --




From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Tue May 12 14:34:06 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121031310.22800@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 12 May 2009, Bob Gustafson wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 04:51 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 May 2009, Bob Gustafson wrote:
> >
> > > There is a book on-line "Asterisk - The Future of Telephony", 2nd
> > > ed. (604 pages) free http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org/ (See link in
> > > the middle of the page) This doc is for version 1.4, but for a
> > > newbie, there isn't much difference between 1.4 and 1.6
> ...
> >   at the moment, it *appears* that my problem is that asterisk has
> > been broken down into numerous packages for fedora packaging, and
> > i need to determine what packages to install along with the core
> > package mentioned above.  that means that i'm going to end up
> > suggesting some text along the lines of, "if you're trying to play
> > with asterisk on fedora 11, it's not enough to just install the
> > base package, you'll need to install a number of other packages,"
> > followed by some kind of recipe for determining which ones.
>
> I imagine that when F11 goes golden, and if it does include the
> 1.6.1 version of Asterisk, it will include all of the necessary
> packages, or will 'depend' on them.
>
> My guess is that so much time is being spent on sorting out other
> Fedora problems, Asterisk will be whipped into shape at the last
> moment, perhaps with a regress to an earlier version.
>
> You are playing with several moving targets.

  you say that like it's a bad thing.  oh, wait ... in any event, i'm
willing to spend a bit of time to figure out just how runnable it is
and the proper way to install and configure it, so if anyone else
wants to play along, they're welcome to.  at the moment, i'm giving up
on the package-based install and building from the tarball, which lets
me get a bit further along.

  if i figure out how to fix a few things, i can always just bugzilla
it and hope it gets in.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From snow.open.ski at gmail.com  Tue May 12 14:34:04 2009
From: snow.open.ski at gmail.com (Will)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:34:04 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-05-12
In-Reply-To: <4A08ACA1.8080903@gmail.com>
References: <4A08ACA1.8080903@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0988DC.8010301@gmail.com>

TK009 wrote:
> Bug Triage Meeting
> irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
> Tuesday @ 15:00 UTC/11 AM EST
>
> Agenda for 2009-05-12  
> minutes form the last meeting: 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-05
>
>
> * Housekeeping - 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11 
> 1.  Prepare drafted update for text that refers to the latest Fedora 
> version in Bugzilla: 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=Fedora
>          2. File a ticket with Red Hat Engineering Operations 
> requesting the rebase of rawhide bugs on release day
>
> 3. File a ticket with Red Hat Engineering Operations requesting that 
> qualifying bugs receiving an End of Life warning message the day after 
> release day (first day of development for next release).
>
> * Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/
> -Update on the progress of the metrics.
>
> * Severity/priority - 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend
> -Update on progress.
>
> Don't forget, Bug Triage Day after the meeting.
> See you Tomorrow.
> TK009
>
Hi,

I am wondering if I missed something. I went to the #fedora-meeting irc 
channel, but there wasn't a meeting going on. I was there are little 
early, and then was there through 11am EST, but I didn't see any 
meating. I hope that I didn't miss something on the wiki  page. It 
seemed pretty straight forward.

Thanks,

Will Morris



From ajax at redhat.com  Tue May 12 14:55:43 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:55:43 -0400
Subject: modeset on/off changes xrandr output
In-Reply-To: <f58861e00905120208j17e0bf29te61d6d464e15a14c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f58861e00905120208j17e0bf29te61d6d464e15a14c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242140143.21675.52.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 10:08 +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> I've been looking around and I haven't seen anywhere that this is
> documented: if I toggle the modeset flag the output of xrandr changes
> radically (this is on fully updated F11 rawhide with Intel graphics):
> 
> - Outputs have different names:
>   - modeset: VGA1, LVDS1, DVI{1,2}, TV1
>   - nomodeset: VGA, LVDS, HDMI-{1,2}, TV

This is a bug, we should be getting the names the same between KMS and
UMS.  It's pretty much cosmetic though, IIRC Gnome will remember output
configuration based on the EDID of the attached device and not the
output name, so it shouldn't matter.

> - Maximum virtual size is different:
>   - modeset: 8192 x 8192
>   - nomodeset: 1920 x 1920 (nb: native resolution is 1920x1200)

This is not a bug, this is a feature.  KMS enables us to dynamically
reconfigure the framebuffer, which means we can advertise the maximum
virtual size the hardware can support.  We'll only ever allocate memory
based on what you currently have configured though, including
dynamically allocating the ancillary buffers for 3D apps.

In UMS we can't do this, so we have to pick a maximum size up front, and
then limit you for the rest of the session to desktop sizes that will
fit within that guess.  We don't want to allocate too much up front
because (on unified memory architectures like Intel) any memory you use
for graphics is memory you can't use for apps.  It adds up quick:
1920x1200 at 32bpp is 8.8M, and you need three buffers that size for 3D
(front, back, depth), so that's 26M gone right up front, and doesn't
even count the N full screen windows you're likely to have (nautilus,
firefox, firefox, firefox...).  So we pick something based on what
you've got attached and how much memory you've got and it all gets a bit
handwavey, but in your case you end up with 1920 square.

The reason we advertise 1920x1920 is for rotation: if you're rotated,
the screen is 1200x1920.

> - Available resolutions and refresh rates are different, with many
> more available with nomodeset
>   - e.g., LVDS has only 1920x1200 with modesetting, but six further
> resolutions with nomodeset

This is a bug, but one that's at least fix-in-progress.

Mode list construction is kind of a weird process.  For our purposes,
EDID gives you a list of modes, and optionally a bit that says "I can do
other modes too", and also optionally a range descriptor (hsync, vsync,
and max dotclock).  You really don't want to send it a mode that isn't
supported, because on a lot of LCDs that really won't work - either
you'll get a black screen, or it'll do a half-ass job trying to show you
some subset of the signal you're sending and your panel will be off the
bottom of the screen.  So we try to be conservative in the mode list we
construct from KMS (and in the first pass of mode list construction in
UMS too).

However, users occasionally want other modes for various reasons.  Maybe
3D performance isn't acceptable if the resolution is too high; maybe you
want to clone the same mode across multiple outputs; maybe the app
you're running has a fixed UI and you want it to fill the screen anyway.
So if the display has the "I can do other modes too" bit set, we'll try
to add some additional modes based on the range descriptor in the
monitor, or infer one from the list of modes it does support if it
doesn't give one explicitly.

That only happens if the output has a sane EDID block though.  Many
laptop panels don't.  Either they have an EDID block that just contains
the one mode, or they don't have an EDID at all, just a magic bit of
data somewhere in the video ROM saying what the native size is.  But
most laptop chips can scale on the other end, on the GPU instead of in
the display.  So it's actually okay to add pretty much arbitrary modes
to the list, since the driver will just drive the panel at the native
timings and upsample in the GPU.  In UMS we'd catch this case, and add
some default modes below that size; in KMS we don't yet.

Actually that's a lie: we do fix it up for radeon, but not for intel
yet, as a workaround for a different bug.  There's two kind of pixel
layouts the screen can have for intel, linear or tiled, and sometimes we
have to switch between them, and we don't get that right yet.  The
kicker is that the switch happens basically between >= 1024x768 (tiled)
and <= 800x600 (linear).  So imagine what happens at anaconda time: X
starts at whatever resolution, then tries to randr down to 800x600 for
its fixed UI.  KMS will screw up the tiled->linear transition, and
you'll get a black screen of doom.  Awesome.  If, however, 800x600 isn't
available in the randr mode list, then the randr call will just fail
harmlessly, and anaconda will carry on its merry way centered in the
middle of the screen.  Arguably this is what anaconda should do _all_
the time.

The tiling setup failure shows up in a few other places too, so it's
definitely on the list to get fixed for F11 gold, and once that happens
we'll enable the code to do more resolutions on LVDS for intel too.

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090512/b0754c6e/attachment.sig>

From bobgus at rcn.com  Tue May 12 14:58:55 2009
From: bobgus at rcn.com (Bob Gustafson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:58:55 -0500
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121031310.22800@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121031310.22800@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242140335.26391.103.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 10:34 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Tue, 12 May 2009, Bob Gustafson wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 04:51 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > > On Tue, 12 May 2009, Bob Gustafson wrote:
> > >

> > You are playing with several moving targets.
> 
>   you say that like it's a bad thing.  oh, wait ... in any event, i'm
> willing to spend a bit of time to figure out just how runnable it is
> and the proper way to install and configure it, so if anyone else
> wants to play along, they're welcome to.  at the moment, i'm giving up
> on the package-based install and building from the tarball, which lets
> me get a bit further along.
> 
>   if i figure out how to fix a few things, i can always just bugzilla
> it and hope it gets in.
> 
> rday
> --

Good luck. I will be looking for your inputs on BZ.



From poelstra at redhat.com  Tue May 12 14:59:14 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 07:59:14 -0700
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-05-12
In-Reply-To: <4A0988DC.8010301@gmail.com>
References: <4A08ACA1.8080903@gmail.com> <4A0988DC.8010301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A098EC2.4030603@redhat.com>

Will wrote:
> TK009 wrote:
>> Bug Triage Meeting
>> irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
>> Tuesday @ 15:00 UTC/11 AM EST
>>
>> Agenda for 2009-05-12  minutes form the last meeting: 
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-05
>>
>>
>> * Housekeeping - 
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11 1.  
>> Prepare drafted update for text that refers to the latest Fedora 
>> version in Bugzilla: 
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=Fedora
>>          2. File a ticket with Red Hat Engineering Operations 
>> requesting the rebase of rawhide bugs on release day
>>
>> 3. File a ticket with Red Hat Engineering Operations requesting that 
>> qualifying bugs receiving an End of Life warning message the day after 
>> release day (first day of development for next release).
>>
>> * Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/
>> -Update on the progress of the metrics.
>>
>> * Severity/priority - 
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend
>> -Update on progress.
>>
>> Don't forget, Bug Triage Day after the meeting.
>> See you Tomorrow.
>> TK009
>>
> Hi,
> 
> I am wondering if I missed something. I went to the #fedora-meeting irc 
> channel, but there wasn't a meeting going on. I was there are little 
> early, and then was there through 11am EST, but I didn't see any 
> meating. I hope that I didn't miss something on the wiki  page. It 
> seemed pretty straight forward.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Will Morris
> 

Hi Will,

11 AM EDT is in 2 minutes and we will meet then.

Thanks,
John



From mcepl at redhat.com  Tue May 12 15:04:55 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:04:55 +0200
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
References: <4A082F3D.6070500@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <npfod6-60q.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

["Followup-To:" header set to gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers.]
On 2009-05-11, 13:59 GMT, Liam wrote:
> iBus is designed to improve a number of deficiencies of scim:

I had two problems with scim (and these were the reasons I always 
removed it immediately after installation):

a) it conflicted with Compose key
b) it worked poorly (not sure how) with Czech layout ... and 
I heard it from other people with somewhere in between layouts 
... non-ASCII, but also non-real-IM-needed.

Should (at least theoretically) these work in iBus?

And how does it work with relation to Gnome keyboard layouts?

Mat?j



From stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil  Tue May 12 15:32:25 2009
From: stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil (Stephen Berg (Contractor))
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:32:25 -0500
Subject: F11 not booting
Message-ID: <SJBwh26hNgt-Mv_h8ooZ3eUh6yU8XFicv0VvUqU8psVe05udbQVuLQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>

Did an install of the preview release, that went smoothly.  Ran updates 
and now the system won't complete a reboot.  It seems to be stuck 
somewhere in the boot process.  I tried booting without the graphical 
boot stuff and going into single user mode but it still gets stuck.  
I've let it sit like that for 20 or 30 minutes and no progress happens. 

The kind of strange part is on one attempt I plugged in my F10 Live USB 
stick and the console showed the normal messages from inserting a USB 
device.  Seems that the system is still active but not progressing in 
the boot process.  The last message I see on the screen is when it tells 
me about the PS/2 mouse that is connected. 

I've got the kernel that came with the preview release and two updated 
kernels, all three do the same thing.  Any ideas?

-- 
Stephen Berg
Systems Administrator
NRL Code: 7321
Office: 228-688-5738
stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil 



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Tue May 12 15:42:28 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:42:28 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
In-Reply-To: <npfod6-60q.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
References: <4A082F3D.6070500@redhat.com> <npfod6-60q.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
Message-ID: <20090512154228.GA23214@mail.scottro.net>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 05:04:55PM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers.]
> On 2009-05-11, 13:59 GMT, Liam wrote:


> > iBus is designed to improve a number of deficiencies of scim:
> 
I played with ibus, finally, on Rawhide.  It will work in fluxbox, and
works with OpenOffice and firefox. Scim seems to have regressed, no
longer working in openoffice.  While ibus was installed, when I started
openoffice with LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 I got errors that it was trying to
contact ibus, so I'm wondering if this has broken scim--which works
perfectly with OO in F10, (as long as I remove ibus.)

It also doesn't work with my two most common apps where I use Japanese,
urxvt and/or uxterm. 

It doesn't work in opera.

Scim works in all of those, and did work in OO till rawhide. 

While it works quite nicely in firefox and openoffice, for me, I fear,
it's a major regression and I wish that Fedora would strongly reconsider
making it a default.  On the other hand, as long as scim is available,
it isn't a major issue.

At present, I don't really have time to file a proper bug report, but
will try in the next few days--or at least get mention of it on my still
somewhat popular page on Japanese in Linux (and still listed, with an
incorrect URL, in the scim-anthy README.  I've written the author about
changing that URL, but so far,hasn't been fixed--a scim-anthy, not a
fedora, issue)  :)

-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Buffy: Could I be seeing Billy's asteroid body? 
Giles: Astral body, and I don't know.



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Tue May 12 15:32:41 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:32:41 -0600
Subject: Mouse choices
Message-ID: <1242142361.10615.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I loaded F11 on a Gateway laptop using 32 bit and discovered that there
was no problem with switching from the left-hand to right-handed option
and that there is no problem with it within the confines of my virtual
machine.  I hope this information can be of use in narrowing down the
reason it does work with the 64-bit F11.
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Tue May 12 15:49:08 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:49:08 -0600
Subject: F11 not booting
In-Reply-To: <SJBwh26hNgt-Mv_h8ooZ3eUh6yU8XFicv0VvUqU8psVe05udbQVuLQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
References: <SJBwh26hNgt-Mv_h8ooZ3eUh6yU8XFicv0VvUqU8psVe05udbQVuLQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
Message-ID: <1242143348.10615.21.camel@localhost.localdomain>

May I ask what did you load you pre-lease on a laptop or desktop.
I had similar problem on both laptop and desktop.  What I did on my
laptop was after the first boot, I went to root and did the foundation
install and after that I had no more problems.  On my desktop I just
re-installed from the beginning.  I am kind of a novelist in this thing
but am blessing with a friend who is awesome and helps me understand a
lot. Hope this was of some help. 


On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 10:32 -0500, Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:
> Did an install of the preview release, that went smoothly.  Ran updates 
> and now the system won't complete a reboot.  It seems to be stuck 
> somewhere in the boot process.  I tried booting without the graphical 
> boot stuff and going into single user mode but it still gets stuck.  
> I've let it sit like that for 20 or 30 minutes and no progress happens. 
> 
> The kind of strange part is on one attempt I plugged in my F10 Live USB 
> stick and the console showed the normal messages from inserting a USB 
> device.  Seems that the system is still active but not progressing in 
> the boot process.  The last message I see on the screen is when it tells 
> me about the PS/2 mouse that is connected. 
> 
> I've got the kernel that came with the preview release and two updated 
> kernels, all three do the same thing.  Any ideas?
> 
> -- 
> Stephen Berg
> Systems Administrator
> NRL Code: 7321
> Office: 228-688-5738
> stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil 
> 
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Tue May 12 15:36:33 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:36:33 -0600
Subject: No Sound from VMware Workstation
Message-ID: <1242142593.13585.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Since this specifically is something I'm seeing on F11 Preview, I'm
asking here.

I'm not getting any sound from VMs on WMware Workstation 6.5.2 running
on F11 Preview. Workstation is patched for kernel 2.6.29 using the patch
available from the thread:

http://communities.vmware.com/message/1218802

Workstation complains that there is no sound device available to the VM,
and then the VM launches without the sound device connected. Ideas?

Cheers,

Chris


--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From mefoster at gmail.com  Tue May 12 15:30:20 2009
From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:30:20 +0100
Subject: modeset on/off changes xrandr output
In-Reply-To: <1242140143.21675.52.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <f58861e00905120208j17e0bf29te61d6d464e15a14c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<1242140143.21675.52.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <f58861e00905120830s658891dcr145482ddf0133e69@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/12 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com>:
Thanks for your informative response!

> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 10:08 +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
>> - Outputs have different names:
>> ? - modeset: VGA1, LVDS1, DVI{1,2}, TV1
>> ? - nomodeset: VGA, LVDS, HDMI-{1,2}, TV

> This is a bug, we should be getting the names the same between KMS and
> UMS. ?It's pretty much cosmetic though, IIRC Gnome will remember output
> configuration based on the EDID of the attached device and not the
> output name, so it shouldn't matter.

But xorg.conf-based configuration still uses the output names as far
as I can tell (and the KDE randr tool doesn't seem to work very well
at all ...). Should I file this as a bug?

>> - Available resolutions and refresh rates are different, with many
>> more available with nomodeset
>> ? - e.g., LVDS has only 1920x1200 with modesetting, but six further
>> resolutions with nomodeset
>
> This is a bug, but one that's at least fix-in-progress.

Is there a bug number (Redhat/FreeDesktop/whatever) that I can track this under?

Thanks,

MEF

-- 
Mary Ellen Foster  --  http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/
ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.



From jeff at ocjtech.us  Tue May 12 16:55:48 2009
From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:55:48 -0500
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <935ead450905120955kb4a5e35w873d2783db346438@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday at crashcourse.ca> wrote:
>
> ?the rpm package for asterisk for f11 doesn't contain either of
> /etc/asterisk/{alsa,oss}.conf, and i tweaked
> /etc/asterisk/modules.conf to load chan_alsa.so but that didn't solve
> anything so, before i dig myself in too deep here, is there a
> newbie-level doc that shows how to install, configure and test a
> couple simple examples of asterisk under f11? ?thanks.

You'll need to install asterisk-alsa or asterisk-oss to get chan_alsa
or chan_oss

-- 
Jeff Ollie



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 12 16:31:33 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 12:31:33 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
Message-ID: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>

Trying to make custom partitions in Fedora 11 install, from a Fedora 8 
install
/
/home
swap

It won't let met make / as ext4 , because it says can't make ext4 as 
boot partition.
So I change it to ext3, and it says "your / partition does not match the 
live image you are installing from. It must be formatted as ext4".

What The "h" are they doing now ?



From berrange at redhat.com  Tue May 12 17:00:47 2009
From: berrange at redhat.com (Daniel P. Berrange)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 18:00:47 +0100
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <20090512170047.GB29406@redhat.com>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:31:33PM -0400, Jim wrote:
> Trying to make custom partitions in Fedora 11 install, from a Fedora 8 
> install
> /
> /home
> swap
> 
> It won't let met make / as ext4 , because it says can't make ext4 as 
> boot partition.
> So I change it to ext3, and it says "your / partition does not match the 
> live image you are installing from. It must be formatted as ext4".

So add a  /boot  partition using ext3, and then you can have / as ext4

Daniel
-- 
|: Red Hat, Engineering, London   -o-   http://people.redhat.com/berrange/ :|
|: http://libvirt.org  -o-  http://virt-manager.org  -o-  http://ovirt.org :|
|: http://autobuild.org       -o-         http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :|
|: GnuPG: 7D3B9505  -o-  F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 :|



From clumens at redhat.com  Tue May 12 17:01:52 2009
From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:01:52 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <20090512170151.GX5296@localhost.localdomain>

> Trying to make custom partitions in Fedora 11 install, from a Fedora 8  
> install
> /
> /home
> swap
>
> It won't let met make / as ext4 , because it says can't make ext4 as  
> boot partition.
> So I change it to ext3, and it says "your / partition does not match the  
> live image you are installing from. It must be formatted as ext4".

If you're installing from a livecd, you are constrainted in what you can
do.  You have to make / be ext4 because the livecd's ext4 and we just
copy the filesystem over.  But, grub can't boot off ext4 so you have to
make sure the partition holding /boot is ext3.  So you need to make a
separate /boot partition and have it be ext3.

- Chris



From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Tue May 12 17:02:00 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:32:00 +0530
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <89bdee5a0905121002o77316e81taf7b895ca3f22a3b@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Trying to make custom partitions in Fedora 11 install, from a Fedora 8
> install
> /
> /home
> swap

Which media are you using (Live, DVD, Netinst - 32bit, 64bit ) ?



-- 
Gireesh



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Tue May 12 16:59:42 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 12:59:42 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1242147582.5874.2.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 12:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
> Trying to make custom partitions in Fedora 11 install, from a Fedora 8 
> install
> /
> /home
> swap
> 
> It won't let met make / as ext4 , because it says can't make ext4 as 
> boot partition.
> So I change it to ext3, and it says "your / partition does not match the 
> live image you are installing from. It must be formatted as ext4".
> 
> What The "h" are they doing now ?

Make a separate ext3 partition for /boot and use ext4 for the rest if
you like. This is discussed explicitly in the ext4 documentation. (It's
also a good idea in general to have a separate /boot partition.)

poc



From davidsen at tmr.com  Tue May 12 17:06:37 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:06:37 -0400
Subject: F11 updates vs. rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4A0779AA.4000603@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A05D928.5030905@yahoo.com>
	<gu54vn$aj3$1@ger.gmane.org>	<4A076A16.5010400@tmr.com>
	<4A0779AA.4000603@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4A09AC9D.9000902@tmr.com>

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/11/2009 05:28 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> 
>> That makes perfect sense, what could be better than to release a bunch
>> of packages for which there are known bug fixes, then everyone can
>> install the release and spend the effort and bandwidth to upgrade to
>> install the bug fixes later, one machine at a time instead of from the
>> install DVD.
> 
> You should read
> 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy
> 
> If it is just bug fixes and has a low risk of destabilization, then the
> package maintainers are free to file a freeze exception and rel-eng can
> tag it to go into Fedora 11 directly instead of into the updates
> repository.
> 
That sounds like what I meant in the paragraph you snipped, bug fixes get in, 
upgrades don't.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From ajax at redhat.com  Tue May 12 17:08:28 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:08:28 -0400
Subject: modeset on/off changes xrandr output
In-Reply-To: <f58861e00905120830s658891dcr145482ddf0133e69@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f58861e00905120208j17e0bf29te61d6d464e15a14c@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242140143.21675.52.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<f58861e00905120830s658891dcr145482ddf0133e69@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242148108.21675.70.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 16:30 +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> 2009/5/12 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com>:
> Thanks for your informative response!
> 
> > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 10:08 +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> >> - Outputs have different names:
> >>   - modeset: VGA1, LVDS1, DVI{1,2}, TV1
> >>   - nomodeset: VGA, LVDS, HDMI-{1,2}, TV
> 
> > This is a bug, we should be getting the names the same between KMS and
> > UMS.  It's pretty much cosmetic though, IIRC Gnome will remember output
> > configuration based on the EDID of the attached device and not the
> > output name, so it shouldn't matter.
> 
> But xorg.conf-based configuration still uses the output names as far
> as I can tell (and the KDE randr tool doesn't seem to work very well
> at all ...). Should I file this as a bug?

True.  And yes, please.

> >> - Available resolutions and refresh rates are different, with many
> >> more available with nomodeset
> >>   - e.g., LVDS has only 1920x1200 with modesetting, but six further
> >> resolutions with nomodeset
> >
> > This is a bug, but one that's at least fix-in-progress.
> 
> Is there a bug number (Redhat/FreeDesktop/whatever) that I can track this under?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496813

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090512/d509a640/attachment.sig>

From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 17:11:33 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:11:33 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Recap for 2009-05-12
Message-ID: <4A09ADC5.8010407@gmail.com>

The meeting recap and full IRC transcript can be found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-12

Please make any corrections and clarifications to that page.

= Bug Triage Meeting :: 2009-05-12 =

== Attendees ==
* adamw
* arxs
* john5342
* mcepl
* poelcat
* SMParrish
* tk009
* will

== Meeting Topics ==

* Housekeeping - 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11 - The 
draft has been completed and poelcat will file a ticket later today with 
Red Hat Engineering Operations requesting the rebase of rawhide bugs on 
release day.

* 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11#Qualifying_Criteria 
- Some problems occurred generating the query, poelcat and jds2001 will 
follow up.

* Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/ - No 
new information on the status. adamw will continue to work on it.

* Severity/priority - 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend
-mcepl's "Feedback Request" to the -devel-list received no negative 
responses to date. adamw will send a progress mail to the list asking 
that one of the alternatives be chosen.

* 000-Not-Sure-What-Component-To-File-Against idea (avoid bugs getting 
filed against 0xFFFF inappropriately) - Decided that this wasn't 
necessary at this time given the very limited number of bugs filed under 
xFFFF component.


TK009



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 12 17:13:22 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:13:22 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <89bdee5a0905121002o77316e81taf7b895ca3f22a3b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
	<89bdee5a0905121002o77316e81taf7b895ca3f22a3b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A09AE32.2090302@sbcglobal.net>

Gireesh wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>   
>> Trying to make custom partitions in Fedora 11 install, from a Fedora 8
>> install
>> /
>> /home
>> swap
>>     
>
> Which media are you using (Live, DVD, Netinst - 32bit, 64bit ) ?
>
>
>
>   
"LIVE"  Preview.

Thanks guys for your help,
 I'll add a /boot ext3.



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 17:14:19 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:14:19 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-05-12
In-Reply-To: <4A0988DC.8010301@gmail.com>
References: <4A08ACA1.8080903@gmail.com> <4A0988DC.8010301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A09AE6B.2070706@gmail.com>

Will wrote:
> TK009 wrote:
>> Bug Triage Meeting
>> irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
>> Tuesday @ 15:00 UTC/11 AM EST
>>
>> Agenda for 2009-05-12  minutes form the last meeting: 
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-05
>>
>>
>> * Housekeeping - 
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11 1.  
>> Prepare drafted update for text that refers to the latest Fedora 
>> version in Bugzilla: 
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=Fedora
>>          2. File a ticket with Red Hat Engineering Operations 
>> requesting the rebase of rawhide bugs on release day
>>
>> 3. File a ticket with Red Hat Engineering Operations requesting that 
>> qualifying bugs receiving an End of Life warning message the day 
>> after release day (first day of development for next release).
>>
>> * Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/
>> -Update on the progress of the metrics.
>>
>> * Severity/priority - 
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend
>> -Update on progress.
>>
>> Don't forget, Bug Triage Day after the meeting.
>> See you Tomorrow.
>> TK009
>>
> Hi,
>
> I am wondering if I missed something. I went to the #fedora-meeting 
> irc channel, but there wasn't a meeting going on. I was there are 
> little early, and then was there through 11am EST, but I didn't see 
> any meating. I hope that I didn't miss something on the wiki  page. It 
> seemed pretty straight forward.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Will Morris
>
I am a bit confused, didn't I see you at the meeting?



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 17:18:34 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:18:34 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-05-12
In-Reply-To: <4A0988DC.8010301@gmail.com>
References: <4A08ACA1.8080903@gmail.com> <4A0988DC.8010301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A09AF6A.9010704@gmail.com>

Nevermind that reply, I didn't read the time.



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 12 17:31:39 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 23:01:39 +0530
Subject: F11 updates vs. rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4A09AC9D.9000902@tmr.com>
References: <4A05D928.5030905@yahoo.com>	<gu54vn$aj3$1@ger.gmane.org>	<4A076A16.5010400@tmr.com>	<4A0779AA.4000603@fedoraproject.org>
	<4A09AC9D.9000902@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <4A09B27B.4020906@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/12/2009 10:36 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

>>
> That sounds like what I meant in the paragraph you snipped, bug fixes
> get in, upgrades don't.

In general, yes since there is no point in taking the risk of
destabilizing a release by pushing in a massive update. As we get closer
to the release, changes need to be carefully pulled in. This is the
model that practically everybody follows. How else would you manage it?

Rahul



From davidsen at tmr.com  Tue May 12 17:40:28 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:40:28 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>

Jim wrote:
> Trying to make custom partitions in Fedora 11 install, from a Fedora 8 
> install
> /
> /home
> swap
> 
> It won't let met make / as ext4 , because it says can't make ext4 as 
> boot partition.
> So I change it to ext3, and it says "your / partition does not match the 
> live image you are installing from. It must be formatted as ext4".
> 
> What The "h" are they doing now ?
> 
You need a separate /boot as ext[23] to boot, and it must be a partition. I 
*think* it must be a primary partition, as the installer tells me I have not 
enough free space for a boot partition, when I cleared 150MB for an extended 
partition. Yes, I changed the size I was asking for to 150, yes I actually had a 
few more MB free than that.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From davidsen at tmr.com  Tue May 12 17:45:30 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:45:30 -0400
Subject: For the future...
In-Reply-To: <607033.5566.qm@web110716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <607033.5566.qm@web110716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A09B5BA.8060203@tmr.com>

Leslie Satenstein wrote:
> As not all topics are of interest to me, and since there is a reason to not receive packets of emails with entries I would not be reading, is there a way, (thinking of the future), 
> To receive only a list of the titles as a link to a URL?  Then I need only click on the topics of interest to open them.
> 
Why not read as nntp on news.gmane.org? Sounds like just what you want.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com  Tue May 12 17:47:44 2009
From: an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com (Allen Kistler)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 12:47:44 -0500
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
Message-ID: <4A09B640.3090004@yahoo.com>

Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> Is there a way to set the DPI setting for GDM, and thus the X sessions
> called from it, without changing this in the individual user profiles?
> 
> On one system I have, F11 gdm was automatically set to 120DPI, which
> looked absolutely hideous at 1440X900 resolution. On another system, it
> set itself automatically to 94DPI, which looked better, but not ideal.
> I'd really like the default on both to be 96DPI (or perhaps 100DPI).
> 
> How do we do this, or are we just simply at the mercy of whatever gdm
> decides to do?

It's not Gnome, it's the video driver and Xorg-server.

Depending on the driver, there may be an option to set it in xorg.conf. 
  (Of course, you have to create an xorg.conf to use it.)

If there's not an option for your driver, you can override the display 
size in xorg.conf to make the driver do the math differently.  I do that 
with the radeon driver, myself, because the driver isn't doing the math 
correctly.  (... and, yeah, there's a BZ on it ...)

Check the xorg.conf man page for DisplaySize.  Check the man page for 
your driver for whatever options are special to it.



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Tue May 12 18:29:58 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:29:58 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>  <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <1242152998.5874.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:40 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> > Trying to make custom partitions in Fedora 11 install, from a Fedora 8 
> > install
> > /
> > /home
> > swap
> > 
> > It won't let met make / as ext4 , because it says can't make ext4 as 
> > boot partition.
> > So I change it to ext3, and it says "your / partition does not match the 
> > live image you are installing from. It must be formatted as ext4".
> > 
> > What The "h" are they doing now ?
> > 
> You need a separate /boot as ext[23] to boot, and it must be a partition. I 
> *think* it must be a primary partition, as the installer tells me I have not 
> enough free space for a boot partition, when I cleared 150MB for an extended 
> partition.

On my netbook I have /boot on an extended partition.

poc



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue May 12 18:39:11 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:39:11 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <1242152998.5874.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>  <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
	<1242152998.5874.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <1242153551.2646.119.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:29 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:40 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > Jim wrote:
> > > Trying to make custom partitions in Fedora 11 install, from a Fedora 8 
> > > install
> > > /
> > > /home
> > > swap
> > > 
> > > It won't let met make / as ext4 , because it says can't make ext4 as 
> > > boot partition.
> > > So I change it to ext3, and it says "your / partition does not match the 
> > > live image you are installing from. It must be formatted as ext4".
> > > 
> > > What The "h" are they doing now ?
> > > 
> > You need a separate /boot as ext[23] to boot, and it must be a partition. I 
> > *think* it must be a primary partition, as the installer tells me I have not 
> > enough free space for a boot partition, when I cleared 150MB for an extended 
> > partition.
> 
> On my netbook I have /boot on an extended partition.

As Bill suggests, '/boot' must be a separate partition at this time.

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-partitioning-general.html

Thanks,
James

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090512/533a61ae/attachment.sig>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Tue May 12 18:52:16 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:52:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121201050.24249@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 12 May 2009, Bob Gustafson wrote:

> I imagine that when F11 goes golden, and if it does include the
> 1.6.1 version of Asterisk, it will include all of the necessary
> packages, or will 'depend' on them.
>
> My guess is that so much time is being spent on sorting out other
> Fedora problems, Asterisk will be whipped into shape at the last
> moment, perhaps with a regress to an earlier version.
>
> You are playing with several moving targets.

  if you can tolerate a bit more rambling, i have a question that has
ramifications beyond just asterisk and involves packaging strategies.

  in order to debug the issues related to installing asterisk-1.6.1 as
an rpm, i also downloaded the tarball and installed *that* via the
normal configure/make/install process, and the differences in the end
result are ... interesting.

  if i install via yum, then try to run asterisk, the invocation gives
me the following warning:

  ... Error opening firmware directory
'/usr/share/asterisk/firmware/iax': No such file or directory

a little poking around showed me that that would be satisfied by
independently installing the asterisk-firmware package, whose entire
content is the single file /usr/share/asterisk/firmware/iax/iaxy.bin.
but that brings up the obvious question -- how closely should
installing software as an rpm file track installing it via building
from a tarball?

  if i install from a tarball, then i'll get that file and i won't get
a warning diagnostic whenever i run asterisk.  if, however, i install
the current package using yum, suddenly i get that warning because i
might not realize that that file is provided via a different and
independent package.  that strikes me as a violation the principle of
least astonishment.  is there a reason that the behaviour of
installing via yum clearly deviates from the behaviour of installing
via tarball?

  that's not the only example -- installing via tarball installs the
files /etc/asterisk/{alsa,oss}.conf when you run "make samples",
whereas the core asterisk package doesn't include those files.  and as
someone pointed out, you get those from two *more* packages.

  i understand the value in breaking software into smaller and more
modular packages so users can be more selective about what they
install, but there's also the danger that, if users are used to
building from source, then installing the base package via yum will
leave them with missing files and directories and quite possibly
confuse them.

  and, to close this off, the reason i'm bringing this up is that i'm
trying to follow along a recipe for basic asterisk installation and
configuration that works fine when asterisk is built from a tarball,
but is missing components unless you know exactly what
asterisk-related packages need to be installed to get the same end
result.

  is this making any sense?

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk  Tue May 12 18:56:34 2009
From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:56:34 +0100 (BST)
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net> <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121948300.466@vega1.dur.ac.uk>

On Tue, 12 May 2009, Bill Davidsen wrote:

> You need a separate /boot as ext[23] to boot, and it must be a partition. I 
> *think* it must be a primary partition, as the installer tells me I have not 
> enough free space for a boot partition, when I cleared 150MB for an extended 
> partition. Yes, I changed the size I was asking for to 150, yes I actually 
> had a few more MB free than that.

I believe /boot has to be a primary partition if the boot sector is 
installed at the start of that partition. If the boot sector is installed 
in the mbr then it probably doesn't matter so much.

 	Michael Young



From davidsen at tmr.com  Tue May 12 17:32:24 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:32:24 -0400
Subject: Turning Off Sendmail In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A0899D6.2090901@wolves.durham.nc.us>
References: <4A0892BF.6050908@speakeasy.net>
	<4A0899D6.2090901@wolves.durham.nc.us>
Message-ID: <4A09B2A8.1090909@tmr.com>

G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:

> Personally, I have /etc/aliases send me root's mail and then I have 
> procmail sort it into a separate Thunderbird folder for special attention.
> 
The alternatives seem to be to send it to yourself and move to a filter or send 
it to a "rootmail" user account and use that. Either will be fine, a separate 
user keeps a complex procmailrc out of the personal mail area. I do have a few 
thing page me in root mail.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From tom.horsley at att.net  Tue May 12 19:12:56 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:12:56 -0400
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121201050.24249@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121201050.24249@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090512151256.02530f3c@tomh>

On Tue, 12 May 2009 14:52:16 -0400 (EDT)
Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>   is this making any sense?

Definitely. However, I have gotten into the habit after
encountering the same sort of thing many times of using
yum search or a gui tool like yumex to search for all
things asterisk (or whatever I'm interested in) and
I just install all packages that seem vaguely related
in the descriptions :-).

Usually makes for less surprise.

I notice one thing that some packages do is create a
dummy package with the base name of the product and
make it depend on all the other packages, but I've
never been able to deduce the rules for that - I suspect
personal whim of the packagers.



From mike at mommabears.com  Tue May 12 19:18:57 2009
From: mike at mommabears.com (MJang)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 12:18:57 -0700
Subject: Fedora 11 Release Candidate?
Message-ID: <1242155937.7796.4.camel@UbuntuHH>

Folks, 

Just wondering - will there be ISO spins of the Fedora 11 Release
Candidate (on the schedule for today), or would I just dump the os/
directory from today's rawhide?

Thanks,
Mike



From bobgus at rcn.com  Tue May 12 19:25:28 2009
From: bobgus at rcn.com (Bob Gustafson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:25:28 -0500
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121201050.24249@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121201050.24249@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <65507A00-EE7A-4667-82A2-35170972A0B1@chidig.com>


On May 12, 2009, at 13:52, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

> On Tue, 12 May 2009, Bob Gustafson wrote:
>
>> I imagine that when F11 goes golden, and if it does include the
>> 1.6.1 version of Asterisk, it will include all of the necessary
>> packages, or will 'depend' on them.
>>
>> My guess is that so much time is being spent on sorting out other
>> Fedora problems, Asterisk will be whipped into shape at the last
>> moment, perhaps with a regress to an earlier version.
>>
>> You are playing with several moving targets.
>
>   if you can tolerate a bit more rambling, i have a question that has
> ramifications beyond just asterisk and involves packaging strategies.
>
>   in order to debug the issues related to installing asterisk-1.6.1 as
> an rpm, i also downloaded the tarball and installed *that* via the
> normal configure/make/install process, and the differences in the end
> result are ... interesting.
>
>   if i install via yum, then try to run asterisk, the invocation gives
> me the following warning:
>
>   ... Error opening firmware directory
> '/usr/share/asterisk/firmware/iax': No such file or directory

It really shouldn't be an error, only a warning, if that. Many  
telephony hardware devices (such as the discontinued Digium iaxy)  
require a firmware upload before they will work. If you don't have  
the device, in theory, you shouldn't get the error/warning.

Since you got an error, the assumption is that the installation quit  
at that point, thus there are probably other pieces which were not  
installed...  And it should be filed in BZ as a bug.

In this particular case, since iaxy is optional, I think the  
installation process (yum) just cruises through that error and  
ignores it.

>
> a little poking around showed me that that would be satisfied by
> independently installing the asterisk-firmware package, whose entire
> content is the single file /usr/share/asterisk/firmware/iax/iaxy.bin.
> but that brings up the obvious question -- how closely should
> installing software as an rpm file track installing it via building
> from a tarball?
>
>   if i install from a tarball, then i'll get that file and i won't get
> a warning diagnostic whenever i run asterisk.  if, however, i install
> the current package using yum, suddenly i get that warning because i
> might not realize that that file is provided via a different and
> independent package.  that strikes me as a violation the principle of
> least astonishment.  is there a reason that the behaviour of
> installing via yum clearly deviates from the behaviour of installing
> via tarball?

If you use the Fedora System->Administration->Add/Remove Software  
tool - and search for 'Asterisk', you will see a list of packages  
that are 'related' to Asterisk - if only because they include the  
word 'Asterisk' somewhere exposed to the search.

To load those packages (and any hidden dependencies), click the  
checkbox in front of the name. You will see the packages related to  
alsa and oss here. However, most of these packages are not needed to  
run Asterisk. If they were needed, then there should have been a  
dependency for that package in the Asterisk package (and there would  
already be a mark in the checkbox saying it was already installed)

>
>   that's not the only example -- installing via tarball installs the
> files /etc/asterisk/{alsa,oss}.conf when you run "make samples",
> whereas the core asterisk package doesn't include those files.  and as
> someone pointed out, you get those from two *more* packages.
>
>   i understand the value in breaking software into smaller and more
> modular packages so users can be more selective about what they
> install, but there's also the danger that, if users are used to
> building from source, then installing the base package via yum will
> leave them with missing files and directories and quite possibly
> confuse them.

I doubt there is any organized process for going from tarball to  
modular packages. Some applications are more modularly organized than  
others. The key is to look for pieces which are common to other  
applications - and split them off - and use the code developed by  
someone else. The problem here is independently developed code can  
independently change, and break the application.

Going back to the Add/Remove Software tool list, you will see a  
number of 'helper' pieces - adapters for MySQL or PostgreSQL for  
example. The Asterisk developers are not going to re-create a  
database, so they use an existing database and write an adapter  
(which presumably depends on a particular version of the database).

If, as a user of Asterisk, you don't want to squirrel away stuff in a  
database, you won't download the database adapter, and you won't  
depend on that particular database manager.

>
>   and, to close this off, the reason i'm bringing this up is that i'm
> trying to follow along a recipe for basic asterisk installation and
> configuration that works fine when asterisk is built from a tarball,
> but is missing components unless you know exactly what
> asterisk-related packages need to be installed to get the same end
> result.
>
>   is this making any sense?

Yes, of course. Thought is useful.

>
> rday
> --



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Tue May 12 19:53:15 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:53:15 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <1242153551.2646.119.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>  <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
	<1242152998.5874.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1242153551.2646.119.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1242157995.5874.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:39 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:29 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:40 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > > Jim wrote:
> > > > Trying to make custom partitions in Fedora 11 install, from a Fedora 8 
> > > > install
> > > > /
> > > > /home
> > > > swap
> > > > 
> > > > It won't let met make / as ext4 , because it says can't make ext4 as 
> > > > boot partition.
> > > > So I change it to ext3, and it says "your / partition does not match the 
> > > > live image you are installing from. It must be formatted as ext4".
> > > > 
> > > > What The "h" are they doing now ?
> > > > 
> > > You need a separate /boot as ext[23] to boot, and it must be a partition. I 
> > > *think* it must be a primary partition, as the installer tells me I have not 
> > > enough free space for a boot partition, when I cleared 150MB for an extended 
> > > partition.
> > 
> > On my netbook I have /boot on an extended partition.
> 
> As Bill suggests, '/boot' must be a separate partition at this time.
> 
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-partitioning-general.html

That's what I'm saying. It *is* a separate partition, just not a primary
partition. Nothing on the above page suggests that it needs to be
primary.

poc



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Tue May 12 19:53:59 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:53:59 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121948300.466@vega1.dur.ac.uk>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net> <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121948300.466@vega1.dur.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1242158039.5874.10.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 19:56 +0100, M A Young wrote:
> On Tue, 12 May 2009, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> 
> > You need a separate /boot as ext[23] to boot, and it must be a partition. I 
> > *think* it must be a primary partition, as the installer tells me I have not 
> > enough free space for a boot partition, when I cleared 150MB for an extended 
> > partition. Yes, I changed the size I was asking for to 150, yes I actually 
> > had a few more MB free than that.
> 
> I believe /boot has to be a primary partition if the boot sector is 
> installed at the start of that partition. If the boot sector is installed 
> in the mbr then it probably doesn't matter so much.

In my case it's in the mbr.

poc



From jkeating at redhat.com  Tue May 12 20:10:28 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:10:28 -0700
Subject: Fedora 11 Release Candidate?
In-Reply-To: <1242155937.7796.4.camel@UbuntuHH>
References: <1242155937.7796.4.camel@UbuntuHH>
Message-ID: <1242159028.3452.112.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 12:18 -0700, MJang wrote:
> Just wondering - will there be ISO spins of the Fedora 11 Release
> Candidate (on the schedule for today), or would I just dump the os/
> directory from today's rawhide?

There will not be public RC isos.  Use rawhide for that.  The RCs come
too quickly and are too large to mirror to the public.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090512/9a440752/attachment.sig>

From mcepl at redhat.com  Tue May 12 20:07:34 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:07:34 +0200
Subject: For the future...
References: <607033.5566.qm@web110716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4A09B5BA.8060203@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <6h1pd6-grt.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

On 2009-05-12, 17:45 GMT, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Leslie Satenstein wrote:
>> As not all topics are of interest to me, and since there is 
>> a reason to not receive packets of emails with entries I would 
>> not be reading, is there a way, (thinking of the future), 
>> To receive only a list of the titles as a link to a URL?  Then 
>> I need only click on the topics of interest to open them.
>> 
> Why not read as nntp on news.gmane.org? Sounds like just what you want.

+1 moreover news clients are just better in dealing with huge 
amount of messages (killfiles etc.).

Mat?j



From xiashing at gmail.com  Tue May 12 21:10:46 2009
From: xiashing at gmail.com (Xia Shing Zee)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:10:46 +1000
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <1242158039.5874.10.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net> <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121948300.466@vega1.dur.ac.uk>
	<1242158039.5874.10.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <954b158e0905121410w1484f42m9bcc15d160440cc1@mail.gmail.com>

Will /boot be able to be used with ext4 in the future?

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallaghan at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 19:56 +0100, M A Young wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 May 2009, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> >
> > > You need a separate /boot as ext[23] to boot, and it must be a
> partition. I
> > > *think* it must be a primary partition, as the installer tells me I
> have not
> > > enough free space for a boot partition, when I cleared 150MB for an
> extended
> > > partition. Yes, I changed the size I was asking for to 150, yes I
> actually
> > > had a few more MB free than that.
> >
> > I believe /boot has to be a primary partition if the boot sector is
> > installed at the start of that partition. If the boot sector is installed
> > in the mbr then it probably doesn't matter so much.
>
> In my case it's in the mbr.
>
> poc
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/f5ef6dd0/attachment.htm>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 12 21:16:35 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:16:35 -0700
Subject: VPN connections in NetworkManager have strange behaviour
In-Reply-To: <4A0932F5.4020700@laposte.net>
References: <4A0932F5.4020700@laposte.net>
Message-ID: <1242162995.2923.853.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 10:27 +0200, Axel wrote:
> I have a problem when using NetworkManager to connect to VPN 
> connections, on an up to date fedora 11 system.
> I previously (ubuntu gutsy) used to connect to a vpnc (VPN Compatible 
> Cisco) server with the command line tool.
> 
> Using the command line still works with Fedora 11. When I try to switch 
> to the NetworkManager builtin VPN manager, I manage to connect to the 
> remote VPN server, but no network activity can be made. It s maybe a 
> problem with the routes.

> So is there something wrong in my NetworkManager settings ?

I'm afraid I can't explain what's wrong in your case, but I just wanted
to note this isn't the same for me. I have a connection to Red Hat's
internal VPN (which is the same type, it works from the command line
with vpnc) set up in NetworkManager. It works fine. At first I had it
set up similar to how you do - all configuration settings default - then
I set it to "Use this connection only for resources on its network".
Either way, it works fine. This is on latest Rawhide.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 12 21:20:26 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:20:26 -0700
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <20090512151256.02530f3c@tomh>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121201050.24249@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090512151256.02530f3c@tomh>
Message-ID: <1242163226.2923.856.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 15:12 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 12 May 2009 14:52:16 -0400 (EDT)
> Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> 
> >   is this making any sense?
> 
> Definitely. However, I have gotten into the habit after
> encountering the same sort of thing many times of using
> yum search or a gui tool like yumex to search for all
> things asterisk (or whatever I'm interested in) and
> I just install all packages that seem vaguely related
> in the descriptions :-).
> 
> Usually makes for less surprise.
> 
> I notice one thing that some packages do is create a
> dummy package with the base name of the product and
> make it depend on all the other packages, but I've
> never been able to deduce the rules for that - I suspect
> personal whim of the packagers.

This is called a metapackage, and I've been told they're frowned on in
Fedora. I've no idea why, they're extensively used in Mandriva and I
always found them invaluable.

Fedora does use the concept of package groups quite extensively in
similar ways, and yum makes it easy to install a complete 'group' of
packages. yum grouplist doesn't seem to show any kind of Asterisk group,
though. :\
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 12 21:23:25 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:23:25 -0700
Subject: modeset on/off changes xrandr output
In-Reply-To: <1242148108.21675.70.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <f58861e00905120208j17e0bf29te61d6d464e15a14c@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242140143.21675.52.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<f58861e00905120830s658891dcr145482ddf0133e69@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242148108.21675.70.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1242163405.2923.857.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:08 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:

> > But xorg.conf-based configuration still uses the output names as far
> > as I can tell (and the KDE randr tool doesn't seem to work very well
> > at all ...). Should I file this as a bug?
> 
> True.  And yes, please.

The KDE randr tool not working very well at all is, of course, a
different bug. That you should also file. With details. :)

(I had the same experience, though, when I tried it briefly. It stank.
GNOME's is great.)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From cmadams at hiwaay.net  Tue May 12 21:24:07 2009
From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:24:07 -0500
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <954b158e0905121410w1484f42m9bcc15d160440cc1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net> <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121948300.466@vega1.dur.ac.uk>
	<1242158039.5874.10.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<954b158e0905121410w1484f42m9bcc15d160440cc1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090512212407.GA1081631@hiwaay.net>

Once upon a time, Xia Shing Zee <xiashing at gmail.com> said:
> Will /boot be able to be used with ext4 in the future?

It'll probably work not long after F11 is released.  The patch to GRUB
(the boot loader) already exists, it just didn't get the necessary
testing before F11 was frozen.  Assuming there are no issues, it should
be in F12 (I don't know if they'll release an updated GRUB during F11;
messing with the boot loader is especially risky after all).

-- 
Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



From tom.horsley at att.net  Tue May 12 21:30:44 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:30:44 -0400
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <1242163226.2923.856.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121201050.24249@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090512151256.02530f3c@tomh>
	<1242163226.2923.856.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20090512173044.50796247@zooty>

On Tue, 12 May 2009 14:20:26 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:

> This is called a metapackage, and I've been told they're frowned on in
> Fedora. I've no idea why

Well, I have noticed you can easily do a "yum install metapackage"
to install the junk, but when you decide you don't want it, a
"yum erase metapackage" will only get rid of the empty metapackage
(since the dependencies only go one way). That can certainly be
confusing and may have something to do with the frowning :-).



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 12 21:58:47 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 03:28:47 +0530
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <1242157995.5874.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
	<4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>	<1242152998.5874.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<1242153551.2646.119.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<1242157995.5874.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A09F117.9010400@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/13/2009 01:23 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

>> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-partitioning-general.html
> 
> That's what I'm saying. It *is* a separate partition, just not a primary
> partition. Nothing on the above page suggests that it needs to be
> primary.

Please file a bug report.

Rahul



From snow.open.ski at gmail.com  Tue May 12 21:36:29 2009
From: snow.open.ski at gmail.com (Will)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:36:29 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-05-12
In-Reply-To: <4A09AE6B.2070706@gmail.com>
References: <4A08ACA1.8080903@gmail.com> <4A0988DC.8010301@gmail.com>
	<4A09AE6B.2070706@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A09EBDD.4010805@gmail.com>

TK009 wrote:
> Will wrote:
>> TK009 wrote:
>>> Bug Triage Meeting
>>> irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
>>> Tuesday @ 15:00 UTC/11 AM EST
>>>
>>> Agenda for 2009-05-12  minutes form the last meeting: 
>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-05
>>>
>>>
>>> * Housekeeping - 
>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11 1.  
>>> Prepare drafted update for text that refers to the latest Fedora 
>>> version in Bugzilla: 
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=Fedora
>>>          2. File a ticket with Red Hat Engineering Operations 
>>> requesting the rebase of rawhide bugs on release day
>>>
>>> 3. File a ticket with Red Hat Engineering Operations requesting that 
>>> qualifying bugs receiving an End of Life warning message the day 
>>> after release day (first day of development for next release).
>>>
>>> * Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/
>>> -Update on the progress of the metrics.
>>>
>>> * Severity/priority - 
>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend
>>> -Update on progress.
>>>
>>> Don't forget, Bug Triage Day after the meeting.
>>> See you Tomorrow.
>>> TK009
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am wondering if I missed something. I went to the #fedora-meeting 
>> irc channel, but there wasn't a meeting going on. I was there are 
>> little early, and then was there through 11am EST, but I didn't see 
>> any meating. I hope that I didn't miss something on the wiki  page. 
>> It seemed pretty straight forward.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Will Morris
>>
> I am a bit confused, didn't I see you at the meeting?
>
Yes you did. On the wiki page for meetings it says 10am EST. The meating 
is at 11am EST. So you can disregard my email.

Will



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 12 22:02:09 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:02:09 -0700
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <20090512173044.50796247@zooty>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121201050.24249@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090512151256.02530f3c@tomh>
	<1242163226.2923.856.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090512173044.50796247@zooty>
Message-ID: <1242165729.2923.859.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 17:30 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 12 May 2009 14:20:26 -0700
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > This is called a metapackage, and I've been told they're frowned on in
> > Fedora. I've no idea why
> 
> Well, I have noticed you can easily do a "yum install metapackage"
> to install the junk, but when you decide you don't want it, a
> "yum erase metapackage" will only get rid of the empty metapackage
> (since the dependencies only go one way). That can certainly be
> confusing and may have something to do with the frowning :-).

That's just the long-known issue of orphans. There are utilities to
detect (and remove) orphans available, if it's important to you, and
it's hardly restricted to metapackages, it's the same for all packages
(if you install an app that needs libfoo, then later remove the app,
libfoo remains).
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 12 22:04:54 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:04:54 -0700
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-05-12
In-Reply-To: <4A09EBDD.4010805@gmail.com>
References: <4A08ACA1.8080903@gmail.com> <4A0988DC.8010301@gmail.com>
	<4A09AE6B.2070706@gmail.com>  <4A09EBDD.4010805@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242165894.2923.862.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 17:36 -0400, Will wrote:

> > I am a bit confused, didn't I see you at the meeting?
> >
> Yes you did. On the wiki page for meetings it says 10am EST. The meating 
> is at 11am EST. So you can disregard my email.

It says 10am EDT, not EST. I think you're right, though. It should be
11. I'll change it.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk  Tue May 12 22:15:29 2009
From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 23:15:29 +0100 (BST)
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <20090512212407.GA1081631@hiwaay.net>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net> <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121948300.466@vega1.dur.ac.uk>
	<1242158039.5874.10.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<954b158e0905121410w1484f42m9bcc15d160440cc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090512212407.GA1081631@hiwaay.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905122309040.23289@vega1.dur.ac.uk>

On Tue, 12 May 2009, Chris Adams wrote:

> It'll probably work not long after F11 is released.  The patch to GRUB
> (the boot loader) already exists, it just didn't get the necessary
> testing before F11 was frozen.  Assuming there are no issues, it should
> be in F12 (I don't know if they'll release an updated GRUB during F11;
> messing with the boot loader is especially risky after all).

There is little benefit in updating grub mid-release, because the boot 
sector and associated files usually only get updated at install or upgrade 
time. Upgrading the grub package generally doesn't touch these files, and 
you would need to something like grub-install by hand to update them. So 
almost everyone will still be using the grub version in the original 
release, and those who do want to experiment can always use the F12 version.

 	Michael Young



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 12 22:42:22 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 18:42:22 -0400
Subject: DNS or IPV6 problems in FC11 
Message-ID: <4A09FB4E.90705@sbcglobal.net>

I can't remember about a problem that Fedora 9 or 10 had about Firefox 
couldn't find linuxyoday.com or lxer.com, it was something about DNS or 
IPV6.
Well I have that problem again in Fedora 11.
I can connect to sites like yahoo.com, reuters.com, but not 
linuxtoday,com, lxer .com, it says "Server not Found"
Anyone remember what problem it was ?



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Tue May 12 23:05:21 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:05:21 -0600
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <20090511184043.7c52b45f@zooty>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090511184043.7c52b45f@zooty>
Message-ID: <1242169521.19845.59.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 18:40 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 11 May 2009 15:50:03 -0600
> Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> 
> > How do we do this, or are we just simply at the mercy of whatever gdm
> > decides to do?
> 
> I've been fighting with DPI a lot. My simplest solution is to switch
> from gdm to kdm and edit the kdmrc file to add -dpi 96 to the server
> args, but you can fool gdm into setting dpi for the duration of the
> login screen by copying your own ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/font_rendering
> directory to ~gdm (and fixing ownership to be owned by gdm). (This
> assumes you have already set dpi to 96 in the fonts tab of the window
> appearance preferences).
> 
> For more on the DPI saga, see:
> 
> http://braindump.home.att.net/dpi.html
> 

Thanks. Interesting read to be sure. It would actually be comical if it
wasn't so serious. Hopefully someone with decision authority in X.org
will understand the folly of the "improvements" that have been made and
provide a practical way to have a manual override.

Fortunately, I have an nVidia card on one of my systems. Unfortunately,
my laptop has switchable graphics - with the choice of Intel or ATI
chipsets. Guess there really isn't going to be much of a workable
solution which covers all of the bases for that one...

Cheers,

Chris

--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From selinux at gmail.com  Tue May 12 23:14:18 2009
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:14:18 -0700
Subject: DNS or IPV6 problems in FC11
In-Reply-To: <4A09FB4E.90705@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A09FB4E.90705@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530905121614p64ac8603r3d8174a1edbc58c8@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I can't remember about a problem that Fedora 9 or 10 had about Firefox
> couldn't find linuxyoday.com or lxer.com, it was something about DNS or
> IPV6.
> Well I have that problem again in Fedora 11.
> I can connect to sites like yahoo.com, reuters.com, but not linuxtoday,com,
> lxer .com, it says "Server not Found"
> Anyone remember what problem it was ?
>

Was it any of these (from glibc changelog)?

* Wed Nov 12 2008 Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat.com> 2.8.90-17 - update
from trunk - don't abort on broken DNS replies (#469299, BZ#7009) -
misc fixes (BZ#6966, BZ#7008, BZ#6955, BZ#6843)

tom
-- 
Tom London



From bashton at brennanashton.com  Tue May 12 23:48:06 2009
From: bashton at brennanashton.com (Brennan Ashton)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:48:06 -0700
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Recap for 2009-05-12
In-Reply-To: <4A09ADC5.8010407@gmail.com>
References: <4A09ADC5.8010407@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <981da310905121648p2fc409b8nbef9ea09b7182a01@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:11 AM, TK009 <john.brown009 at gmail.com> wrote:
> The meeting recap and full IRC transcript can be found here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-12
>
> Please make any corrections and clarifications to that page.
>
> = Bug Triage Meeting :: 2009-05-12 =
>
> == Attendees ==
> * adamw
> * arxs
> * john5342
> * mcepl
> * poelcat
> * SMParrish
> * tk009
> * will
>
> == Meeting Topics ==
>
> * Housekeeping -
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11 - The draft
> has been completed and poelcat will file a ticket later today with Red Hat
> Engineering Operations requesting the rebase of rawhide bugs on release day.
>
> *
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11#Qualifying_Criteria
> - Some problems occurred generating the query, poelcat and jds2001 will
> follow up.
>
> * Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/ - No new
> information on the status. adamw will continue to work on it.
>
> * Severity/priority -
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend
> -mcepl's "Feedback Request" to the -devel-list received no negative
> responses to date. adamw will send a progress mail to the list asking that
> one of the alternatives be chosen.
>
> * 000-Not-Sure-What-Component-To-File-Against idea (avoid bugs getting filed
> against 0xFFFF inappropriately) - Decided that this wasn't necessary at this
> time given the very limited number of bugs filed under xFFFF component.
>
>
> TK009

The story of the metrics is I have not gotten a chance to touch them,
in a few weeks, I have been swamped with AP tests the last two weeks
and some early finals (barely been making it out to work).  The good
news is that after this week things open up and I wait for the school
year to end.  So  I will get things back online and running by the
next meeting, but much before that is unlikely.  Something changed on
the test server and I am not sure what it is yet which is why there is
only 404.  My guess is apache config, but I will have to look at the
logs to check.

Sorry for being out of communication,
Brennan Ashton



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 23:52:58 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:52:58 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Recap for 2009-05-12
In-Reply-To: <981da310905121648p2fc409b8nbef9ea09b7182a01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A09ADC5.8010407@gmail.com>
	<981da310905121648p2fc409b8nbef9ea09b7182a01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0A0BDA.8040708@gmail.com>

Brennan Ashton wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:11 AM, TK009 <john.brown009 at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> The meeting recap and full IRC transcript can be found here:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-12
>>
>> Please make any corrections and clarifications to that page.
>>
>> = Bug Triage Meeting :: 2009-05-12 =
>>
>> == Attendees ==
>> * adamw
>> * arxs
>> * john5342
>> * mcepl
>> * poelcat
>> * SMParrish
>> * tk009
>> * will
>>
>> == Meeting Topics ==
>>
>> * Housekeeping -
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11 - The draft
>> has been completed and poelcat will file a ticket later today with Red Hat
>> Engineering Operations requesting the rebase of rawhide bugs on release day.
>>
>> *
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11#Qualifying_Criteria
>> - Some problems occurred generating the query, poelcat and jds2001 will
>> follow up.
>>
>> * Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/ - No new
>> information on the status. adamw will continue to work on it.
>>
>> * Severity/priority -
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend
>> -mcepl's "Feedback Request" to the -devel-list received no negative
>> responses to date. adamw will send a progress mail to the list asking that
>> one of the alternatives be chosen.
>>
>> * 000-Not-Sure-What-Component-To-File-Against idea (avoid bugs getting filed
>> against 0xFFFF inappropriately) - Decided that this wasn't necessary at this
>> time given the very limited number of bugs filed under xFFFF component.
>>
>>
>> TK009
>>     
>
> The story of the metrics is I have not gotten a chance to touch them,
> in a few weeks, I have been swamped with AP tests the last two weeks
> and some early finals (barely been making it out to work).  The good
> news is that after this week things open up and I wait for the school
> year to end.  So  I will get things back online and running by the
> next meeting, but much before that is unlikely.  Something changed on
> the test server and I am not sure what it is yet which is why there is
> only 404.  My guess is apache config, but I will have to look at the
> logs to check.
>
> Sorry for being out of communication,
> Brennan Ashton
>
>   
Thanks for the heads up brother.

Edward



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Tue May 12 23:57:43 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:57:43 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <4A09F117.9010400@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net> <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
	<1242152998.5874.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1242153551.2646.119.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<1242157995.5874.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A09F117.9010400@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1242172663.11099.10.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 03:28 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/13/2009 01:23 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> >> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-partitioning-general.html
> > 
> > That's what I'm saying. It *is* a separate partition, just not a primary
> > partition. Nothing on the above page suggests that it needs to be
> > primary.
> 
> Please file a bug report.

Is it a bug? As I said, I happily installed /boot on an extended
partition since I didn't know it wasn't supposed to work, and it does in
fact work perfectly well for me. Maybe I got lucky.

poc



From bkoz at redhat.com  Wed May 13 00:19:38 2009
From: bkoz at redhat.com (Benjamin Kosnik)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:19:38 -0700
Subject: playing with real-time on a regular system?
In-Reply-To: <4A08B9E8.3060504@fedoraproject.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905101053340.26549@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090511163844.44167370@mcgee.artheist.org>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111940470.6707@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A08B9E8.3060504@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20090512171938.6e60f2b6@mcgee.artheist.org>


> kernel-rt was never in the Fedora repo even though Red Hat is very
> involved in this effort. Planet CCRMA used to have one. Haven't
> checked recent status.

Ah yes, sorry for the confusion. Indeed I was using CCRMA.

Here is what you are looking for:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing/10/x86_64/repoview/


-benjamin



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 13 00:30:09 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:30:09 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090513003009.DADF510F895@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    anki-0.9.9.7.9-1.fc9
    avogadro-0.9.4-1.fc9
    firebird-2.1.2.18118.0-7.fc9
    gpxe-0.9.7-2.fc9
    libkate-0.3.3-1.fc9
    opensc-0.11.8-1.fc9
    php-ezc-Cache-1.4.1-1.fc9
    php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.3-1.fc9
    qsynth-0.3.4-1.fc9
    qt-4.5.1-10.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 anki-0.9.9.7.9-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4915)
 Flashcard program for using space repetition learning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.9 with lots of bug fixes and minor
enhancements.    The full changelog can be found here:
http://ichi2.net/anki/download/index.html#changes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.9-1
- Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.9 to fix an update problem of the 
statusbar and of the titlebar
* Thu May  7 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.8-2
- Updated noupdate patch
* Wed May  6 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.8-1
- Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 avogadro-0.9.4-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4886)
 An advanced molecular editor for chemical purposes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update incorporates the latest bugfixes and some new features on the way to
the v1 release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Sebastian Dziallas <sebastian at when.com> 0.9.4-1
- update to new release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499270 - Please update avogadro to version 0.9.4
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499270
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 firebird-2.1.2.18118.0-7.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4896)
 SQL relational database management system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

patch to change lock files location and avoid {fbroot} owned by firebird user
(rh #500219)  change xinetd reload (rh #500219)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Philippe Makowski <makowski at firebird-fr.eu.org> 2.1.2.18118.0-7
- patch to change lock files location and avoid %{fbroot} owned by firebird user (rh #500219)
- add README.fedora
- add symlinks in /usr/bin
- change xinetd reload (rh #500219)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500219 - user "firebird" doesn't create at the right time during installation
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500219
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gpxe-0.9.7-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4901)
 A network boot loader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of the gPXE network boot loader for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492181 - Review Request: gpxe - A network boot loader
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492181
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libkate-0.3.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4888)
 Libraries to handle the Kate bitstream format
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 opensc-0.11.8-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4883)
 Smart card library and applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A minor update fixing security problem within pkcs11-tool command.    http://www
.opensc-project.org/pipermail/opensc-announce/2009-May/000025.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 0.11.8-1
- new upstream version - fixes security issue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499862 - opensec: insecure public exponent in opensc 0.11.7
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499862
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Cache-1.4.1-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4867)
 Provides a collection of lightweight classes to cache different kinds of data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fixed issue #14684: Exception on invalid cache location now contains the
location it results from it.   * Fixed issue #14685: Corrected tutorial
regarding ezcCacheStackConfigurator.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4882)
 A component that allows you to use configuration files in different formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fixed bug #14701: Reader classes were cached too aggresively resulting in
calling ->init() for the 2nd time on a manager not re-initializing the correct
configuration object.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qsynth-0.3.4-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4899)
 Qt based Fluidsynth GUI front end
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

    *  Command line option parsing has been slightly refactored to allow custom
override through extraordinary fluidsynth option settings (eg. -o name=value;
fixes bug #2781579).      * Main form layout has been given a little bit more
slack space, just to accommodate some longer text label translations (eg.
German).      * Converted obsolete QMessageBox forms to standard buttons.      *
Saved channel presets are now effectively loaded on engine startup.      *
Russian translation added (thanks to Alexandre Prokoudine).      *
Grayed/disabled palette color group fix for dark color themes.      * Qt
Software logo update.      * Slight optimizations to the output peak meters
refresh rate.      * MIDI and audio device names are now user selectable options
through respective drop-down lists on each engine setup dialog.      * New knob
style: Skulpture.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget[DOT]fedora[AT]gmail[DOT]com> 0.3.4-1
- Update to 0.3.4
- Update specfile for macro consistency
- Own %{_datadir}/qsynth/locale
- Drop patches that are no longer needed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qt-4.5.1-10.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4866)
 Qt toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10
- improved kde4_plugins patch, skip expensive/unneeded canonicalPath
* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-9
- include kde4 plugin path by default (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-8
- fix invalid assumptions about mysql_config --libs (bug #440673)
- fix %files breakage from 4.5.1-5
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-7
- -devel: Provides: qt4-devel%{?_isa} ...
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-6
- drop useless hunk of qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1-enable_ft_lcdfilter.patch
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-5
- -devel: Provides: *-static for libQtUiTools.a
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-4
- qt-doc noarch
- qt-demos, qt-examples (split from -doc)
- (cosmetic) re-order subpkgs in alphabetical order
- drop unused profile.d bits
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-3
- enable FT_LCD_FILTER (uses freetype subpixel filters if available at runtime)
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-2
- apply upstream patch to fix the svg rendering regression
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-1
- 4.5.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 13 00:30:09 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:30:09 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090513003009.E342910F898@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    anki-0.9.9.7.9-1.fc11
    avogadro-0.9.4-1.fc11
    firebird-2.1.2.18118.0-7.fc11
    gpxe-0.9.7-2.fc11
    gstreamer-0.10.23-1.fc11
    gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.23-1.fc11
    iw-0.9.13-1.fc11
    kmplayer-0.11.1-1.fc11
    libkate-0.3.3-1.fc11
    opensc-0.11.8-1.fc11
    perl-Crypt-Eksblowfish-0.007-1.fc11
    perl-HTML-WikiConverter-Markdown-0.05-1.fc11
    perl-Text-Context-3.6-1.fc11
    php-ezc-Cache-1.4.1-1.fc11
    php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.3-1.fc11
    python-alsa-1.0.20-1.fc11
    qemu-0.10-18.fc11
    qsynth-0.3.4-1.fc11
    sdcc-2.9.0-1.fc11
    sudo-1.7.1-1.fc11
    xorg-x11-drv-ivtv-1.0.2-1.fc11.1
    xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse-12.6.4-1.fc11
    yum-presto-0.5.0-1.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 anki-0.9.9.7.9-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4894)
 Flashcard program for using space repetition learning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.9 with lots of bug fixes and minor
enhancements.    The full changelog can be found here:
http://ichi2.net/anki/download/index.html#changes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.9-1
- Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.9 to fix an update problem of the 
statusbar and of the titlebar
* Thu May  7 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.8-2
- Updated noupdate patch
* Wed May  6 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.8-1
- Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 avogadro-0.9.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4909)
 An advanced molecular editor for chemical purposes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update incorporates the latest bugfixes and some new features on the way to
the v1 release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Sebastian Dziallas <sebastian at when.com> 0.9.4-1
- update to new release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499270 - Please update avogadro to version 0.9.4
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499270
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 firebird-2.1.2.18118.0-7.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4869)
 SQL relational database management system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

patch to change lock files location and avoid {fbroot} owned by firebird user
(rh #500219)  change xinetd reload (rh #500219)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Philippe Makowski <makowski at firebird-fr.eu.org> 2.1.2.18118.0-7
- patch to change lock files location and avoid %{fbroot} owned by firebird user (rh #500219)
- add README.fedora
- add symlinks in /usr/bin
- change xinetd reload (rh #500219)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500219 - user "firebird" doesn't create at the right time during installation
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500219
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gpxe-0.9.7-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4900)
 A network boot loader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of the gPXE network boot loader for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492181 - Review Request: gpxe - A network boot loader
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492181
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-0.10.23-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4913)
 GStreamer streaming media framework runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream releases with a large number of bug fixes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.10.23-1
- Update to 0.10.23
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 0.10.22-4
- Move req on which and pkgconfig to gstreamer-tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.23-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4913)
 GStreamer streaming media framework base plug-ins
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream releases with a large number of bug fixes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.10.23-1
- Update to 0.10.23
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 iw-0.9.13-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4918)
 A nl80211 based wireless configuration tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 0.9.13 from upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> 0.9.13-1
- Update to 0.9.13
* Wed Apr 15 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> 0.9.12-1
- Update to 0.9.12
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500417 - Update iw to version 0.9.13
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500417
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kmplayer-0.11.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4871)
 A simple frontend for MPlayer/FFMpeg/Phonon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Merged generators from Maemo port  - Enable clear history  - Also a summary if
RSS has media tags  - Implement still missing tvscanner using it (FWIW)  -
Support SMIL region backgroundOpacity and media type mediaBackgroundOpacity  -
Save toolbar settings  - Don't set aspects for NPP  - Support
'fill="transition"` inside SMIL 'seq' tags  - Support more than one begin and
end triggers for SMIL elements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget[DOT]fedora[AT]gmail[DOT]com> - 0.11.1-1
- kmplayer-0.11.1
- drop upstreamed patches
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libkate-0.3.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4902)
 Libraries to handle the Kate bitstream format
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.3.3-1
- Update to 0.3.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 opensc-0.11.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4892)
 Smart card library and applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A minor update fixing security problem within pkcs11-tool command.    http://www
.opensc-project.org/pipermail/opensc-announce/2009-May/000025.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 0.11.8-1
- new upstream version - fixes security issue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499862 - opensec: insecure public exponent in opensc 0.11.7
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499862
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Crypt-Eksblowfish-0.007-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4917)
 Eksblowfish block cipher
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499067 - Review Request: perl-Crypt-Eksblowfish - Eksblowfish block cipher
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499067
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTML-WikiConverter-Markdown-0.05-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4878)
 Convert HTML to Markdown markup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499941 - Review Request: perl-HTML-WikiConverter-Markdown - Convert HTML to Markdown markup
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499941
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-Context-3.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4885)
 Handle highlighting search result context snippets
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499066 - Review Request: perl-Text-Context - Handle highlighting search result context snippets
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499066
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Cache-1.4.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4895)
 Provides a collection of lightweight classes to cache different kinds of data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fixed issue #14684: Exception on invalid cache location now contains the
location it results from it.   * Fixed issue #14685: Corrected tutorial
regarding ezcCacheStackConfigurator.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4877)
 A component that allows you to use configuration files in different formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fixed bug #14701: Reader classes were cached too aggresively resulting in
calling ->init() for the 2nd time on a manager not re-initializing the correct
configuration object.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-alsa-1.0.20-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4872)
 Python binding for the ALSA library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Andy Shevchenko <andy at smile.org.ua> - 1.0.20-1
- update to release 1.0.20
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qemu-0.10-18.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4890)
 QEMU is a FAST! processor emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Glauber Costa <glommer at redhat.com> - 2:0.10-18
- move option rom setup function to the beginning of the file. This
  avoids static vs non-static issues, and is the way upstream does
* Tue May 12 2009 Glauber Costa <glommer at redhat.com> - 2:0.10-17
- fix reboot with -kernel parameter
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499666 - Reboot fails when using qemu -kernel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499666
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qsynth-0.3.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4906)
 Qt based Fluidsynth GUI front end
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

    *  Command line option parsing has been slightly refactored to allow custom
override through extraordinary fluidsynth option settings (eg. -o name=value;
fixes bug #2781579).      * Main form layout has been given a little bit more
slack space, just to accommodate some longer text label translations (eg.
German).      * Converted obsolete QMessageBox forms to standard buttons.      *
Saved channel presets are now effectively loaded on engine startup.      *
Russian translation added (thanks to Alexandre Prokoudine).      *
Grayed/disabled palette color group fix for dark color themes.      * Qt
Software logo update.      * Slight optimizations to the output peak meters
refresh rate.      * MIDI and audio device names are now user selectable options
through respective drop-down lists on each engine setup dialog.      * New knob
style: Skulpture.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget[DOT]fedora[AT]gmail[DOT]com> 0.3.4-1
- Update to 0.3.4
- Update specfile for macro consistency
- Own %{_datadir}/qsynth/locale
- Drop patches that are no longer needed
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.3.3-6.1
- Fix disttag comparison for F9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sdcc-2.9.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4905)
 Small Device C Compiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

For more info:    http://sdcc.wiki.sourceforge.net/SDCC+2.9.0+Release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 30 2009 Conrad Meyer <konrad at tylerc.org> - 2.9.0-1
- Bump to 2.9.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sudo-1.7.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4879)
 Allows restricted root access for specified users
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updated sudo to 1.7.1.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Daniel Kopecek <dkopecek at redhat.com> 1.7.1-1
- updated sudo to version 1.7.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #489744 - Regression in sudo since --secure-path was enabled
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489744
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xorg-x11-drv-ivtv-1.0.2-1.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-4912)
 Xorg X11 ivtv video driver
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.0.2-1
- Update to 1.0.2 (final)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse-12.6.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4897)
 Xorg X11 vmmouse input driver
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to vmmouse 12.6.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 12.6.4-1
- vmmouse 12.6.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yum-presto-0.5.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4916)
 Presto plugin for yum
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update from upstream, mostly UI improvements from late rawhide testing.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 James Antill <james at fedoraproject.org> - 0.5.0-1
- Add to updates-testing
* Fri May  1 2009 Jonathan Dieter <jdieter at gmail.com> - 0.5.0-1
- Remove patches (now upstream)
- Reduce summary to one-line sentence
* Thu Apr 30 2009 James Antill <james at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.5-8
- Fix total for current filename (stupid python threading).
* Wed Apr 29 2009 James Antill <james at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.5-7
- Fix total to not overflow into rebuild
* Tue Apr 28 2009 James Antill <james at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.5-6
- Add total progress data to delta downloads
- Fix stats. to account for the fact not everything has a delta
- Allow delta downloads to be configurable on savings
* Sun Apr 26 2009 James Antill <james at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.5-5
- Added cleanup patch from upstream.
- Adds progress for rebuilding.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 13 00:30:09 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:30:09 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090513003010.09D6D10F899@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    anki-0.9.9.7.9-1.fc10
    avogadro-0.9.4-1.fc10
    firebird-2.1.2.18118.0-7.fc10
    gpxe-0.9.7-3.fc10
    libkate-0.3.3-1.fc10
    mock-0.9.16-1.fc10
    opensc-0.11.8-1.fc10
    perl-Crypt-Eksblowfish-0.007-1.fc10
    perl-HTML-WikiConverter-Markdown-0.05-1.fc10
    perl-Text-Context-3.6-1.fc10
    php-ezc-Cache-1.4.1-1.fc10
    php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.3-1.fc10
    python-alsa-1.0.20-1.fc10
    qsynth-0.3.4-1.fc10
    sudo-1.7.1-2.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 anki-0.9.9.7.9-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4881)
 Flashcard program for using space repetition learning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.9 with lots of bug fixes and minor
enhancements.    The full changelog can be found here:
http://ichi2.net/anki/download/index.html#changes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.9-1
- Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.9 to fix an update problem of the 
statusbar and of the titlebar
* Thu May  7 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.8-2
- Updated noupdate patch
* Wed May  6 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.8-1
- Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 avogadro-0.9.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4904)
 An advanced molecular editor for chemical purposes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update incorporates the latest bugfixes and some new features on the way to
the v1 release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Sebastian Dziallas <sebastian at when.com> 0.9.4-1
- update to new release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499270 - Please update avogadro to version 0.9.4
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499270
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 firebird-2.1.2.18118.0-7.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4893)
 SQL relational database management system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

patch to change lock files location and avoid {fbroot} owned by firebird user
(rh #500219)  change xinetd reload (rh #500219)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Philippe Makowski <makowski at firebird-fr.eu.org> 2.1.2.18118.0-7
- patch to change lock files location and avoid %{fbroot} owned by firebird user (rh #500219)
- add README.fedora
- add symlinks in /usr/bin
- change xinetd reload (rh #500219)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500219 - user "firebird" doesn't create at the right time during installation
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500219
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gpxe-0.9.7-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4920)
 A network boot loader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of the gPXE network boot loader for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492181 - Review Request: gpxe - A network boot loader
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492181
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libkate-0.3.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4889)
 Libraries to handle the Kate bitstream format
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mock-0.9.16-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4898)
 Builds packages inside chroots
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Added configs for Fedora 11.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 0.9.16-1
- Make F11 and rawhide build i586 on i386 targets.
* Mon May 11 2009 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 0.9.15-1
- Add configs for F11 (jkeating)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 opensc-0.11.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4919)
 Smart card library and applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A minor update fixing security problem within pkcs11-tool command.    http://www
.opensc-project.org/pipermail/opensc-announce/2009-May/000025.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 0.11.8-1
- new upstream version - fixes security issue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499862 - opensec: insecure public exponent in opensc 0.11.7
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499862
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Crypt-Eksblowfish-0.007-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4907)
 Eksblowfish block cipher
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499067 - Review Request: perl-Crypt-Eksblowfish - Eksblowfish block cipher
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499067
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTML-WikiConverter-Markdown-0.05-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4868)
 Convert HTML to Markdown markup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499941 - Review Request: perl-HTML-WikiConverter-Markdown - Convert HTML to Markdown markup
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499941
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-Context-3.6-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4873)
 Handle highlighting search result context snippets
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499066 - Review Request: perl-Text-Context - Handle highlighting search result context snippets
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499066
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Cache-1.4.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4914)
 Provides a collection of lightweight classes to cache different kinds of data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fixed issue #14684: Exception on invalid cache location now contains the
location it results from it.   * Fixed issue #14685: Corrected tutorial
regarding ezcCacheStackConfigurator.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4908)
 A component that allows you to use configuration files in different formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fixed bug #14701: Reader classes were cached too aggresively resulting in
calling ->init() for the 2nd time on a manager not re-initializing the correct
configuration object.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-alsa-1.0.20-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4910)
 Python binding for the ALSA library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Andy Shevchenko <andy at smile.org.ua> - 1.0.20-1
- update to release 1.0.20
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.0.17-2.1
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 1.0.17-2
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qsynth-0.3.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4876)
 Qt based Fluidsynth GUI front end
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

    *  Command line option parsing has been slightly refactored to allow custom
override through extraordinary fluidsynth option settings (eg. -o name=value;
fixes bug #2781579).      * Main form layout has been given a little bit more
slack space, just to accommodate some longer text label translations (eg.
German).      * Converted obsolete QMessageBox forms to standard buttons.      *
Saved channel presets are now effectively loaded on engine startup.      *
Russian translation added (thanks to Alexandre Prokoudine).      *
Grayed/disabled palette color group fix for dark color themes.      * Qt
Software logo update.      * Slight optimizations to the output peak meters
refresh rate.      * MIDI and audio device names are now user selectable options
through respective drop-down lists on each engine setup dialog.      * New knob
style: Skulpture.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget[DOT]fedora[AT]gmail[DOT]com> 0.3.4-1
- Update to 0.3.4
- Update specfile for macro consistency
- Own %{_datadir}/qsynth/locale
- Drop patches that are no longer needed
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.3.3-6.1
- Fix disttag comparison for F9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sudo-1.7.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4874)
 Allows restricted root access for specified users
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- updated sudo to version 1.7.1  - reverted the value of --with-secure-path to
"/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Daniel Kopecek <dkopecek at redhat.com> 1.7.1-2
- forgot to change %doc content
* Tue May 12 2009 Daniel Kopecek <dkopecek at redhat.com> 1.7.1-1
- updated sudo to version 1.7.1
- reverted the value of --with-secure-path to "/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin"
- added patches from f11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #475990 - sudo -V not consistent with sudo actual behavior
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475990
  [ 2 ] Bug #471603 - sudo: Hardcoded "secure-path" breaks functionality.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471603
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed May 13 01:20:42 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:20:42 -0400
Subject: playing with real-time on a regular system?
In-Reply-To: <20090512171938.6e60f2b6@mcgee.artheist.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905101053340.26549@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090511163844.44167370@mcgee.artheist.org>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111940470.6707@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A08B9E8.3060504@fedoraproject.org>
	<20090512171938.6e60f2b6@mcgee.artheist.org>
Message-ID: <20090512212042.7e2d3db7@zooty>

Just a general note on realtime systems: Depending on what
your idea of "realtime" is, you are quite likely to have
big problems with a typical desktop system in which the
oh so helpful motherboard implements "system management
interrupts" which can't be turned off and always happen
at grossly inappropriate times :-).



From tagoh at redhat.com  Wed May 13 02:07:00 2009
From: tagoh at redhat.com (Akira TAGOH)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:07:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
In-Reply-To: <876788016.747771242180377259.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <479718042.747801242180420157.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

----- "Scott Robbins" <scottro at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

| I played with ibus, finally, on Rawhide.  It will work in fluxbox,
| and
| works with OpenOffice and firefox. Scim seems to have regressed, no
| longer working in openoffice.  While ibus was installed, when I
| started
| openoffice with LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 I got errors that it was trying
| to
| contact ibus, so I'm wondering if this has broken scim--which works
| perfectly with OO in F10, (as long as I remove ibus.)

Have you changed IM from im-chooser? you need to choose one there when you have multiple IMs installed at least.

| It also doesn't work with my two most common apps where I use
| Japanese,
| urxvt and/or uxterm. 
| 
| It doesn't work in opera.

How is it not working? at least urxvt works for me though.

--
Akira TAGOH



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Wed May 13 02:14:52 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:14:52 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
In-Reply-To: <479718042.747801242180420157.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <876788016.747771242180377259.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<479718042.747801242180420157.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090513021452.GA27424@mail.scottro.net>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:07:00PM -0400, Akira TAGOH wrote:
> ----- "Scott Robbins" <scottro at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> | I played with ibus, finally, on Rawhide.  It will work in fluxbox,
> | and
> | works with OpenOffice and firefox. Scim seems to have regressed, no
> | longer working in openoffice.  While ibus was installed, when I
> | started
> | openoffice with LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 I got errors that it was trying
> | to
> | contact ibus, so I'm wondering if this has broken scim--which works
> | perfectly with OO in F10, (as long as I remove ibus.)
> 
> Have you changed IM from im-chooser? you need to choose one there when you have multiple IMs installed at least.
> 
Yes, I did that.  

> | It also doesn't work with my two most common apps where I use
> | Japanese,
> | urxvt and/or uxterm. 
> | 
> | It doesn't work in opera.
> 
> How is it not working? at least urxvt works for me though.

Hrrm, you're doing better than I am.  I set up a VM as well, with Gnome,
I'll try it in that. 

By not working, I mean I do not get the opportunity to enter Japanese,
even if I set LC_ALL (and of course, XMODIFIERS).

With urxt and opera, however, nothing happens. 

On the other hand, with the Gnome VM, it does work in Gnome-terminal. It
seems to be working very well with all GTK apps, and I do have high
hopes for it.  


-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Buffy: You read my diary? That is not OK. A diary is like a 
person's most private possession. You don't even know what I was 
writing about. Hunk can mean a lot of things, bad things. And, 
and when I said his eyes were penetrating, I meant bulging. 
Angel: Buffy... 
Buffy: A doesn't even stand for Angel for that matter. It stand 
for Achmed, a charming foreign exchange student. And that whole 
fantasy part has nothing to even do with you, at all... 
Angel: Your mother moved your diary when she came in to 
straighten up. I watched her from the closet. I didn't read it, I
swear. 
Buffy: Oh. 



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Wed May 13 02:27:28 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:27:28 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
In-Reply-To: <479718042.747801242180420157.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <876788016.747771242180377259.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<479718042.747801242180420157.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090513022728.GB27424@mail.scottro.net>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:07:00PM -0400, Akira TAGOH wrote:
> ----- "Scott Robbins" <scottro at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> | I played with ibus, finally, on Rawhide.  It will work in fluxbox,
> | and
> | works with OpenOffice and firefox. Scim seems to have regressed, no
> | longer working in openoffice.  While ibus was installed, when I
> | started
> | openoffice with LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 I got errors that it was trying
> | to
> | contact ibus, so I'm wondering if this has broken scim--which works
> | perfectly with OO in F10, (as long as I remove ibus.)
> 
> Have you changed IM from im-chooser? you need to choose one there when you have multiple IMs installed at least.
> 
> | It also doesn't work with my two most common apps where I use
> | Japanese,
> | urxvt and/or uxterm. 
> | 
> | It doesn't work in opera.


AHA--after an update, I now have it working in both urxvt and uxterm
(which are both far more important to me than opera, as I can always use
firefox. 

BUT--opera works too!!

Ok, now I'm a happy camper. 

I tried uninstalling all Japanese support packages.  Then I ran an
update, noting that glibc, among others was updated.  Then, I
ran yum -y install @japanese-support. 

After that, it all worked. 


-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Principal Snyder: It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that 
that gets you eaten. 



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed May 13 02:50:55 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:50:55 -0500
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
Message-ID: <20090513025055.GB3897@wolff.to>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 01:05:24 -0500,
  Bob Gustafson <bobgus at rcn.com> wrote:
> 
> However, F9/F10 uses a buggy version of Asterisk (1.605). It hasn't been
> upgraded to get the fix for a few months - 1.609 has the fix.

There is also Callweaver. I haven't tried actually using it yet, but it
might be a way to get around the broken Asterisk.



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed May 13 02:55:12 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:55:12 -0500
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
Message-ID: <20090513025512.GC3897@wolff.to>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 09:28:06 -0500,
  Bob Gustafson <bobgus at rcn.com> wrote:
> 
> I imagine that when F11 goes golden, and if it does include the 1.6.1
> version of Asterisk, it will include all of the necessary packages, or
> will 'depend' on them.
> 
> My guess is that so much time is being spent on sorting out other Fedora
> problems, Asterisk will be whipped into shape at the last moment,
> perhaps with a regress to an earlier version.

Not to mention if you happen to have Digium hardware, the ATRPMs guys
haven't been building zaptel or (whatever the new trademark avoiding name is)
kmods yet (as of a couple of days ago) and you can't use it with F11.
(I am not buying another piece of Digium hardware until they upstream their
kernel driver or someone else forks and upstreams it.)



From petersen at redhat.com  Wed May 13 04:05:56 2009
From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:05:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
In-Reply-To: <npfod6-60q.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
Message-ID: <1899006583.371871242187556489.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

----- "Matej Cepl" <mcepl at redhat.com> wrote:
> I had two problems with scim (and these were the reasons I always 
> removed it immediately after installation):

(scim should not be noticeable if it is not running.)

> a) it conflicted with Compose key
> b) it worked poorly (not sure how) with Czech layout ... and 
> I heard it from other people with somewhere in between layouts 
> ... non-ASCII, but also non-real-IM-needed.
> 
> Should (at least theoretically) these work in iBus?

It would be great if you could post some test-cases.
Ideally in bugzilla or even we could mention it in the test event.

As far as possible we want ibus to work for all users.
So if it is breaking stuff we would really like to know about it. :)

> And how does it work with relation to Gnome keyboard layouts?

As far as config interaction with xkb is concerned I think there is no change compared to scim here,
we haven't gotten that far enough to allow tighter integration with gnome yet.

Jens



From poelstra at redhat.com  Wed May 13 04:15:37 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:15:37 -0700
Subject: Upcoming Bugzilla Changes
Message-ID: <4A0A4969.6070207@redhat.com>

Summer is almost here and things are about to heat up (at least here in 
the Northern Hemisphere!) with the release of Fedora 11. With each new 
Fedora release comes some Bugzilla housekeeping.  This e-mail is 
designed to let you know about two things happening around May 26, 2009 
(Fedora 11 day) and what you need to do, if anything.

(1) We will be automatically changing the version all rawhide bugs to 
Fedora 11.  This will result in regular bugs reported against rawhide 
during the Fedora 11 development cycle being changed to version '11' 
instead of their current assignment, 'rawhide'.  This is done in order 
to more accurately tell where in the lineage of releases the bug was 
last reported because over time 'rawhide' becomes ambiguous.

Note that this procedure does not apply to bugs that are against 
component 'Package Review' or bugs that have the 'FutureFeature' or 
'Tracking' keywords set. They will stay open as rawhide bugs indefinitely.

If you do not want your bugs changed to version '11', add the 
FutureFeature keyword. If you need help changing a large amount of bugs 
manually, we'd be glad to help. Stop by #fedora-bugzappers on 
irc.freenode.net and we'll help you.

(2) All bugs for upcoming EOL releases (at this point, Fedora 9) will 
get a comment on release day, explaining that one month of maintenance 
remains.  These bugs must move to a later version if still applicable or 
they will be automatically closed in one month with a resolution of WONTFIX.

More about these processes is here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping

Thanks for reading,
John (for the Bug Triage team)



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Wed May 13 04:30:05 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:30:05 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
In-Reply-To: <1899006583.371871242187556489.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <npfod6-60q.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<1899006583.371871242187556489.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090513043005.GA28751@mail.scottro.net>

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:05:56AM -0400, Jens Petersen wrote:
> ----- "Matej Cepl" <mcepl at redhat.com> wrote:
> 



> As far as possible we want ibus to work for all users.
> So if it is breaking stuff we would really like to know about it. :)

As I said, it might have broken scim with OO, (at least on Rawhide, and
on F10, I had to remove it for scim to work with OO) but now that I have
it working on everything, that doesn't bother me.  :)  (I'm selfish that
way)

As I said, I won't be around to participate, but I can now say it works
for me (and I threw some other things on a VM to test for a friend as
well) with:

Bluefish
Evolution
(Both in Gnome environment--that was the test on the VM for the friend)

With openbox as window manager

OpenOffice
Opera
Firefox
urxvt
uxterm

These are pretty much the only apps where I use Japanese. 

A VERY subjective impression, it does seem a bit nicer than scim.  
On the other hand, that might simply be the happy glow now that I have
it working with urxvt, which is really the most important one for me, as
I'm most likely to use Japanese with mutt.


-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Jenny: You're here again? You kids really dig the library don't 
you? 
Buffy: We're literary. 
Xander: To read makes our speaking English good. 



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Wed May 13 05:34:58 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:34:58 +0300
Subject: Upcoming Bugzilla Changes
In-Reply-To: <4A0A4969.6070207@redhat.com>
References: <4A0A4969.6070207@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905122234j717638av9fc00f8e3ec4781e@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/13 John Poelstra <poelstra at redhat.com>

> Summer is almost here and things are about to heat up (at least here in the
> Northern Hemisphere!) with the release of Fedora 11. With each new Fedora
> release comes some Bugzilla housekeeping.  This e-mail is designed to let
> you know about two things happening around May 26, 2009 (Fedora 11 day) and
> what you need to do, if anything.
>
> (1) We will be automatically changing the version all rawhide bugs to
> Fedora 11.  This will result in regular bugs reported against rawhide during
> the Fedora 11 development cycle being changed to version '11' instead of
> their current assignment, 'rawhide'.  This is done in order to more
> accurately tell where in the lineage of releases the bug was last reported
> because over time 'rawhide' becomes ambiguous.
>
> Note that this procedure does not apply to bugs that are against component
> 'Package Review' or bugs that have the 'FutureFeature' or 'Tracking'
> keywords set. They will stay open as rawhide bugs indefinitely.
>
> If you do not want your bugs changed to version '11', add the FutureFeature
> keyword. If you need help changing a large amount of bugs manually, we'd be
> glad to help. Stop by #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net and we'll
> help you.
>
> (2) All bugs for upcoming EOL releases (at this point, Fedora 9) will get a
> comment on release day, explaining that one month of maintenance remains.
>  These bugs must move to a later version if still applicable or they will be
> automatically closed in one month with a resolution of WONTFIX.
>
> More about these processes is here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping
>
> Thanks for reading,
> John (for the Bug Triage team)
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

thank you for info.

-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/46b14347/attachment.htm>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed May 13 07:08:47 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 03:08:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <1242163226.2923.856.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905121201050.24249@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090512151256.02530f3c@tomh>
	<1242163226.2923.856.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905130306320.15083@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 12 May 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 15:12 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 May 2009 14:52:16 -0400 (EDT)
> > Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >
> > >   is this making any sense?
> >
> > Definitely. However, I have gotten into the habit after
> > encountering the same sort of thing many times of using yum search
> > or a gui tool like yumex to search for all things asterisk (or
> > whatever I'm interested in) and I just install all packages that
> > seem vaguely related in the descriptions :-).
> >
> > Usually makes for less surprise.
> >
> > I notice one thing that some packages do is create a
> > dummy package with the base name of the product and
> > make it depend on all the other packages, but I've
> > never been able to deduce the rules for that - I suspect
> > personal whim of the packagers.
>
> This is called a metapackage, and I've been told they're frowned on in
> Fedora.

  that's how "qemu" is currently implemented:

$ rpm -qR qemu
qemu-user = 2:0.10-16.fc11
qemu-system-x86 = 2:0.10-16.fc11
qemu-system-sparc = 2:0.10-16.fc11
qemu-system-arm = 2:0.10-16.fc11
qemu-system-cris = 2:0.10-16.fc11
qemu-system-sh4 = 2:0.10-16.fc11
qemu-system-m68k = 2:0.10-16.fc11
qemu-system-mips = 2:0.10-16.fc11
qemu-system-ppc = 2:0.10-16.fc11
qemu-img = 2:0.10-16.fc11
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
$ rpm -ql qemu
(contains no files)
$

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From axel.azerty at laposte.net  Wed May 13 07:23:48 2009
From: axel.azerty at laposte.net (Axel)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:23:48 +0200
Subject: VPN connections in NetworkManager have strange behaviour
In-Reply-To: <1242162995.2923.853.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4A0932F5.4020700@laposte.net>
	<1242162995.2923.853.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A0A7584.4010504@laposte.net>

Le 12/05/2009 23:16, Adam Williamson a ?crit :
> I'm afraid I can't explain what's wrong in your case, but I just wanted
> to note this isn't the same for me. I have a connection to Red Hat's
> internal VPN (which is the same type, it works from the command line
> with vpnc) set up in NetworkManager. It works fine. At first I had it
> set up similar to how you do - all configuration settings default - then
> I set it to "Use this connection only for resources on its network".
> Either way, it works fine. This is on latest Rawhide.
>    

Would you have time to check if your routing tables are different (as 
for me), when using command line tool, and when using NetworkManager ?



From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Wed May 13 07:48:33 2009
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:48:33 +0200
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
In-Reply-To: <20090513021452.GA27424@mail.scottro.net>
References: <876788016.747771242180377259.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<479718042.747801242180420157.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<20090513021452.GA27424@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <1242200913.2321.12.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 22:14 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On the other hand, with the Gnome VM, it does work in Gnome-terminal. It
> seems to be working very well with all GTK apps, and I do have high
> hopes for it.  
> 
Yep, it does seem to (I use it at least in gajim, gedit, midori,
epiphany, evolution, stardict, fantasdict, totem and rarely in
gnome-terminal. It also works better than scim in inkscape). One thing
that bothers me though is that when disabled after using, the anthy
panel tends to still appear semi-transparently [see attachment], but is
not clickable. I usually have to turn it off twice for it to disappear
completely when switched to another window. Also there seems to be
missing an option to add new word to dictionary - it was present in
scim.

Note: I am native Czech speaker and I regularly type in Czech, English
and Japanese and I don't have issues with either (apart from the fact
that is much more convenient to use US keyboard layout when writing
through ibus than the Czech one). Would be nice though if turning up
ibus also switched the keyboard layout to US, but that's maybe asking
for to much >_<

Martin
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: ibus-not-disappearing.png
Type: image/png
Size: 1581 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/4fcdffc1/attachment.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/4fcdffc1/attachment.sig>

From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Wed May 13 08:14:59 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:14:59 +1000
Subject: finger print setup
In-Reply-To: <1242136794.2371.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <561c252c0905120200naebae90h20b32c1defde5fc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242136794.2371.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <d58417910905130114i3d30513bp1d8f0d1bf224e6e6@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com>wrote:

>
> Do you have gdm-plugin-fingerprint installed ?
>
>
Shouldn't it be bug that enabling the option for fingerprint authentication
doesn't automatically installs gdm-plugin-fingerprint? I didn't have "Enable
fingerprint login" button in gnome-about-me before until I saw your post and
installed the required package.

Regards,
Masood
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/c52bce9b/attachment.htm>

From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com  Wed May 13 08:22:21 2009
From: gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com (Gianluca Cecchi)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:22:21 +0200
Subject: finger print setup
In-Reply-To: <561c252c0905120221j343aff07ua28f7113e57af708@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0905120200naebae90h20b32c1defde5fc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<561c252c0905120221j343aff07ua28f7113e57af708@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <561c252c0905130122rf407658tc402751e23b293d6@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 12 May 2009 09:59:54 -0400 Matthias Clasen wrote:
> Do you have gdm-plugin-fingerprint installed ?
No, also because I didn't find mention of it in the wiki page....
After installing it, the "enable fingerprint login" button is here a
soon as I connect to gnome session and select the "about me" option
menu
Thanks.
Probably it's worth while to add a mention in the wiki...

I tested all what requested and it seems to work as expected, at least
in my hw setup (see below for questions/comments)

    * Person sets their fingerprint in gnome-about-me
ok. Able to set up the three registration points and register.
btw: where is my fingerprint information registered/stored? When I
disable it, is it the file/structure that contained it completely
deleted? Can one access/take this information when enabled and use
(with malicious intentions, for example) in other contests and for
other purposes?

    * Person can log in using their fingerprint, and the session
behaves the same whether logged in with password or fingerprint. In
particular, gnome-keyring-daemon is running in both cases
ok for login.
A note: when I lock the screen and fingerprint is enabled, is it
correct/expected that now fingerprint is the ONLY way to unlock and
instead using the password is not allowed? I ask this because indeed
in my case I was not able to use password and I seem to remember that
with thinkfinger it was possible t use both the two (but I could be
wrong...)
If gnome-keyring-daemon means that trying to access a function that
needs admin power the admin password window is shown to the user, the
answer is yes and (of course) finger dowsn't work but the right admin
password does work.
Could it be seen as an improvement to enable use of fingerprint also
for admin password (so that for example the admin guy comes to the pc
and swaps his/her finger to enable admin functions)?

    * Person deletes their fingerprint in gnome-about-me
ok

    * Person can no longer log in with their fingerprint
ok
After re-enabling (with new set up of finger data) it works again

    * Another thing to test: turning fingerprint support off in
authconfig prevents login with fingerprint, but keeps the fingerprint
data, so that turning it back on doesn't force people to re-enroll.
ok. it works
Tested this way:
disable in authconfig,
remain in the same session gnome session and lock the screen
now fingerprint is not proposed in the dialog (and attempting to use
it doesn't unlock)
unlock with password: it works
re-enable in authconfig and repeat the steps above remaining in the
gnome session, now fingerprint works
No need to re-register data

Gianluca



From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Wed May 13 08:53:50 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:53:50 +1000
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
Message-ID: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I'm trying to get a Dell M1330 with Intel GM965 ,using HDMI interface,
connected to a Samsung TV (LA32B650). The connection works but I cannot get
any better resolution than 1024x768 and I have HDMI Audio option in
pulseaudio profiles, I have no sound. Has anyone got similar setup to work
at native 1920x1080 resolution with audio? Also, if it is a problem with not
detecting TV's modes, is there a way to manually set the resolution for a
HDMI-connected device?

This is on a up-to-date rawhide.

Regards,
Masood
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/c2195d7b/attachment.htm>

From gbofspam at gmail.com  Wed May 13 09:02:46 2009
From: gbofspam at gmail.com (Andrew Parker)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 05:02:46 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <1242172663.11099.10.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net> <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
	<1242152998.5874.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1242153551.2646.119.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<1242157995.5874.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A09F117.9010400@fedoraproject.org>
	<1242172663.11099.10.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0905130202l72585e61uab13d37c8ef4923b@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallaghan at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 03:28 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 05/13/2009 01:23 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>
>> >> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-partitioning-general.html
>> >
>> > That's what I'm saying. It *is* a separate partition, just not a primary
>> > partition. Nothing on the above page suggests that it needs to be
>> > primary.
>>
>> Please file a bug report.
>
> Is it a bug? As I said, I happily installed /boot on an extended
> partition since I didn't know it wasn't supposed to work, and it does in
> fact work perfectly well for me. Maybe I got lucky.
>

It will work if the partition is "not too far" into the extended
partition.  I'm not sure what the definition of "not too far" is and
whether or not it depends on the size of partitions before the exended
partition though.

I'd be more vague if could. ;)



From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Wed May 13 09:17:40 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:17:40 +1000
Subject: Using a pulseaudio network sink
Message-ID: <d58417910905130217x563957f1qbdfa8930741dfb33@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I have the following setup:

Server: Ubuntu 8.04 on a desktop with pulseaudio configured to allow network
devices using local sinks.
Client: Fedora rawhide (up-to-date) with pulseaudio configured to use the
network sink on mentioned desktop. The gstreamer-plugins-ugly and
gstreamer-plugins-bad for have also been installed from rpmfusion-rawhide.

Now, playing certain file formats such as MP3 fails to a network sink while
they can be played fine locally. The totem give this error message when
trying to play a MP3 file; "pa_stream_proplist_update() failed: Not
supported". I have tried using VLC to play the file and it worked just fine.
It seems this is a problem with gstreamer. I'm wondering if anyone know this
is a known bug or have a solution to fix it?

Regards,
Masood
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/08ecfeaa/attachment.htm>

From joshuacov at googlemail.com  Wed May 13 09:19:06 2009
From: joshuacov at googlemail.com (Joshua C.)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:19:06 +0100
Subject: Fedora 11 Release Candidate?
In-Reply-To: <1242159028.3452.112.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242155937.7796.4.camel@UbuntuHH>
	<1242159028.3452.112.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <5f6f8c5f0905130219w6200676dv84e6f368be15d654@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/12 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com>:
> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 12:18 -0700, MJang wrote:
>> Just wondering - will there be ISO spins of the Fedora 11 Release
>> Candidate (on the schedule for today), or would I just dump the os/
>> directory from today's rawhide?
>
> There will not be public RC isos. ?Use rawhide for that. ?The RCs come
> too quickly and are too large to mirror to the public.
>
> --
> Jesse Keating
> Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
> identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

What about .torrent files?



From berrange at redhat.com  Wed May 13 09:42:00 2009
From: berrange at redhat.com (Daniel P. Berrange)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:42:00 +0100
Subject: Upcoming Bugzilla Changes
In-Reply-To: <4A0A4969.6070207@redhat.com>
References: <4A0A4969.6070207@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090513094200.GB15484@redhat.com>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 09:15:37PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> Summer is almost here and things are about to heat up (at least here in 
> the Northern Hemisphere!) with the release of Fedora 11. With each new 
> Fedora release comes some Bugzilla housekeeping.  This e-mail is 
> designed to let you know about two things happening around May 26, 2009 
> (Fedora 11 day) and what you need to do, if anything.
> 
> (1) We will be automatically changing the version all rawhide bugs to 
> Fedora 11.  This will result in regular bugs reported against rawhide 
> during the Fedora 11 development cycle being changed to version '11' 
> instead of their current assignment, 'rawhide'.  This is done in order 
> to more accurately tell where in the lineage of releases the bug was 
> last reported because over time 'rawhide' becomes ambiguous.
> 
> Note that this procedure does not apply to bugs that are against 
> component 'Package Review' or bugs that have the 'FutureFeature' or 
> 'Tracking' keywords set. They will stay open as rawhide bugs indefinitely.
> 
> If you do not want your bugs changed to version '11', add the 
> FutureFeature keyword. If you need help changing a large amount of bugs 
> manually, we'd be glad to help. Stop by #fedora-bugzappers on 
> irc.freenode.net and we'll help you.

Having to set 2 keywords on every bug is rather tedious & inevitably bugs
will be missed. Can you just add 'F12VirtTarget' to the list of keywords 
you use to exclude bugs from this change.

Regards,
Daniel
-- 
|: Red Hat, Engineering, London   -o-   http://people.redhat.com/berrange/ :|
|: http://libvirt.org  -o-  http://virt-manager.org  -o-  http://ovirt.org :|
|: http://autobuild.org       -o-         http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :|
|: GnuPG: 7D3B9505  -o-  F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 :|



From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed May 13 10:02:46 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 06:02:46 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <6c3f5e6c0905130202l72585e61uab13d37c8ef4923b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net> <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
	<1242152998.5874.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1242153551.2646.119.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<1242157995.5874.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A09F117.9010400@fedoraproject.org>
	<1242172663.11099.10.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<6c3f5e6c0905130202l72585e61uab13d37c8ef4923b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090513060246.210c7a0c@zooty>

On Wed, 13 May 2009 05:02:46 -0400
Andrew Parker wrote:

> I'm not sure what the definition of "not too far" is

I'm pretty sure it depends on the motherboard/bios/disk
interface and possibly phase of moon. I'm also pretty
sure most newer motherboards no longer have this
"boot sector too far away" problem.



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 13 12:39:27 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:09:27 +0530
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <1242172663.11099.10.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
	<4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>	<1242152998.5874.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<1242153551.2646.119.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<1242157995.5874.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<4A09F117.9010400@fedoraproject.org>
	<1242172663.11099.10.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A0ABF7F.4010100@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/13/2009 05:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 03:28 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 05/13/2009 01:23 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>
>>>> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-partitioning-general.html
>>> That's what I'm saying. It *is* a separate partition, just not a primary
>>> partition. Nothing on the above page suggests that it needs to be
>>> primary.
>> Please file a bug report.
> 
> Is it a bug? As I said, I happily installed /boot on an extended
> partition since I didn't know it wasn't supposed to work, and it does in
> fact work perfectly well for me. Maybe I got lucky.

Then it would be useful for the documentation to clarify whether or not
it is supposed to work. Obvious people are confused otherwise.

Rahul



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May 13 13:18:08 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:18:08 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <1242157995.5874.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>  <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
	<1242152998.5874.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1242153551.2646.119.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<1242157995.5874.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <1242220688.2678.84.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 15:53 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:39 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:29 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:40 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > > > Jim wrote:
> > > > > Trying to make custom partitions in Fedora 11 install, from a Fedora 8 
> > > > > install
> > > > > /
> > > > > /home
> > > > > swap
> > > > > 
> > > > > It won't let met make / as ext4 , because it says can't make ext4 as 
> > > > > boot partition.
> > > > > So I change it to ext3, and it says "your / partition does not match the 
> > > > > live image you are installing from. It must be formatted as ext4".
> > > > > 
> > > > > What The "h" are they doing now ?
> > > > > 
> > > > You need a separate /boot as ext[23] to boot, and it must be a partition. I 
> > > > *think* it must be a primary partition, as the installer tells me I have not 
> > > > enough free space for a boot partition, when I cleared 150MB for an extended 
> > > > partition.
> > > 
> > > On my netbook I have /boot on an extended partition.
> > 
> > As Bill suggests, '/boot' must be a separate partition at this time.
> > 
> > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-partitioning-general.html
> 
> That's what I'm saying. It *is* a separate partition, just not a primary
> partition. Nothing on the above page suggests that it needs to be
> primary.

Gotcha, misread your earlier comment.  As other mails in this thread
suggest, I'm somewhat familiar with restrictions on the placement of
'/boot' (primary vs extended), but I cannot find any documentation to
support that.

As Rahul suggested, if we can line that up, it seems reasonable to
request an update to the installation guide (along with a supporting
link).  

Thanks,
James


-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/8af29cbb/attachment.sig>

From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed May 13 13:26:15 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:26:15 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <1242220688.2678.84.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net> <4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>
	<1242152998.5874.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1242153551.2646.119.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<1242157995.5874.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1242220688.2678.84.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090513092615.754f835c@tomh>

On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:18:08 -0400
James Laska wrote:

> I'm somewhat familiar with restrictions on the placement of
> '/boot' (primary vs extended), but I cannot find any documentation to
> support that.

As far as I know, the only general documentation you could possibly
write would be to say something like: Try it, if it works, you
don't have a problem, if it doesn't work, some combination of
your bios, motherboard, or disk controller exceeds the limit
for boot sector location.

I know I was surprised to find I can put bootable partitions
way the heck out near the end of my 500GB sata disk in extended
partitions with no problems at all on my main computer at home.
I tried it and it worked :-).



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Wed May 13 13:42:41 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:42:41 -0400
Subject: What the "H" gives with FC11 install
In-Reply-To: <20090513092615.754f835c@tomh>
References: <4A09A465.5040004@sbcglobal.net>
	<4A09B48C.3040304@tmr.com>	<1242152998.5874.6.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<1242153551.2646.119.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<1242157995.5874.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<1242220688.2678.84.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<20090513092615.754f835c@tomh>
Message-ID: <4A0ACE51.1030004@cox.net>

On 05/13/2009 09:26 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> <snip>
>
> I know I was surprised to find I can put bootable partitions
> way the heck out near the end of my 500GB sata disk in extended
> partitions with no problems at all on my main computer at home.
> I tried it and it worked :-).
>

Been doing it since, oh I think, fedora 4 on several different intel 
based ASUS mobo systems.



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed May 13 13:27:28 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:27:28 +0000
Subject: Using a pulseaudio network sink
In-Reply-To: <d58417910905130217x563957f1qbdfa8930741dfb33@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d58417910905130217x563957f1qbdfa8930741dfb33@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0ACAC0.1000604@hi.is>

On 05/13/2009 09:17 AM, Masood wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have the following setup:
>
> Server: Ubuntu 8.04 on a desktop with pulseaudio configured to allow 
> network devices using local sinks.
> Client: Fedora rawhide (up-to-date) with pulseaudio configured to use 
> the network sink on mentioned desktop. The gstreamer-plugins-ugly and 
> gstreamer-plugins-bad for have also been installed from 
> rpmfusion-rawhide.
>
> Now, playing certain file formats such as MP3 fails to a network sink 
> while they can be played fine locally. The totem give this error 
> message when trying to play a MP3 file; "pa_stream_proplist_update() 
> failed: Not supported". I have tried using VLC to play the file and it 
> worked just fine. It seems this is a problem with gstreamer. I'm 
> wondering if anyone know this is a known bug or have a solution to fix it?
>
> Regards,
> Masood
Get rid of ubuntu or upgrade it...

JBG
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: johannbg.vcf
Type: text/x-vcard
Size: 356 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/2db45a28/attachment.vcf>

From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May 13 13:45:52 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:45:52 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-13 - Fedora QA Meeting Agenda
Message-ID: <1242222352.2678.132.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

Fedora QA Meeting
Date: 2009-05-13
Time: 16:00 UTC (12 EDT)
Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 

        1. Previous meeting follow-up ...
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090506
        
        2. Autoqa status update - http://autoqa.fedorahosted.org
        
        3. F-11 Test Day feedback
        
        4. F-11-GA Preparation
        
        5. How's our driving?

Hope to see you there :)

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/6eb438e4/attachment.sig>

From petersen at redhat.com  Wed May 13 14:28:59 2009
From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:28:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
In-Reply-To: <1618831154.421841242224893463.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1981105658.421911242224939919.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

----- "Martin Sourada" <martin.sourada at gmail.com> wrote:
> It also works better than scim in inkscape). One thing
> that bothers me though is that when disabled after using, the anthy
> panel tends to still appear semi-transparently [see attachment], but
> is not clickable. I usually have to turn it off twice for it to
> disappear completely when switched to another window.

Oh that is new to me: please file a bug.

> Also there seems to be
> missing an option to add new word to dictionary - it was present in
> scim.

Right we are planning to add that, hopefully in time for f12.

> Note: I am native Czech speaker and I regularly type in Czech,
> English
> and Japanese and I don't have issues with either (apart from the fact
> that is much more convenient to use US keyboard layout when writing
> through ibus than the Czech one). Would be nice though if turning up
> ibus also switched the keyboard layout to US, but that's maybe asking
> for to much >_<

If you could file a bug/rfe that would be appreciated.

Jens



From ajax at redhat.com  Wed May 13 14:40:12 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:40:12 -0400
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242225612.21675.83.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 18:53 +1000, Masood wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm trying to get a Dell M1330 with Intel GM965 ,using HDMI interface,
> connected to a Samsung TV (LA32B650). The connection works but I
> cannot get any better resolution than 1024x768 and I have HDMI Audio
> option in pulseaudio profiles, I have no sound. Has anyone got similar
> setup to work at native 1920x1080 resolution with audio? Also, if it
> is a problem with not detecting TV's modes, is there a way to manually
> set the resolution for a HDMI-connected device?

What does your X log look like?  In particular, does it show the EDID
block for the HDMI monitor, and does it say why it's throwing away the
1920x1080 mode.

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/17ce3aed/attachment.sig>

From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed May 13 14:56:49 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:56:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
Message-ID: <692653.39723.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Dear fellow testers,

I have updated to yesterday's updates.  Today X is broken on two machines(those with ATI cards :( )  Will try to send specs and/or Xorg.log.?  to see if we can determine what is wrong.  Hopefully this afternoon or tomorrow morning I can send that in.

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From mikem.rtp at gmail.com  Wed May 13 15:05:58 2009
From: mikem.rtp at gmail.com (Mike McLean)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:05:58 -0400
Subject: Upcoming Bugzilla Changes
In-Reply-To: <20090513094200.GB15484@redhat.com>
References: <4A0A4969.6070207@redhat.com> <20090513094200.GB15484@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4f50e0680905130805x65fc49bcmeac5fb2f1266cfd9@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange <berrange at redhat.com> wrote:
> Having to set 2 keywords on every bug is rather tedious & inevitably bugs
> will be missed. Can you just add 'F12VirtTarget' to the list of keywords
> you use to exclude bugs from this change.

The "change several bugs at once" link at the bottom of a query result
will let you add multiple keywords to multiple bugs in one action.



From ajax at redhat.com  Wed May 13 15:51:12 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:51:12 -0400
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
In-Reply-To: <692653.39723.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <692653.39723.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1242229872.21675.150.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 07:56 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear fellow testers,
> 
> I have updated to yesterday's updates.  Today X is broken on two
> machines(those with ATI cards :( )  Will try to send specs and/or
> Xorg.log.?  to see if we can determine what is wrong.  Hopefully this
> afternoon or tomorrow morning I can send that in.

Which ATI cards?  They've made slightly more than one.

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/1d0831e3/attachment.sig>

From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Wed May 13 16:12:16 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 02:12:16 +1000
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <1242225612.21675.83.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242225612.21675.83.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <d58417910905130912y6e51c4e1mc5527023aa53243f@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the output from xrandr and Xorg.0.log:

$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 800, maximum 8192 x 8192
VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
LVDS1 connected 1280x800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
287mm x 180mm
   1280x800       60.0*+
DVI1 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
   1024x768       60.0
   800x600        60.3
   640x480        59.9

$ cat /var/log/Xorg.o.log
...
(II) intel(0): EDID for output DVI1
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "640x400" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "720x400" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (hsync out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (hsync out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "832x624" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (hsync out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) intel(0): Printing probed modes for output DVI1
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344  768
771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600 601
605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9   25.18  640 656 752 800  480 490 492
525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)

Regards,
Masood

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 18:53 +1000, Masood wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm trying to get a Dell M1330 with Intel GM965 ,using HDMI interface,
> > connected to a Samsung TV (LA32B650). The connection works but I
> > cannot get any better resolution than 1024x768 and I have HDMI Audio
> > option in pulseaudio profiles, I have no sound. Has anyone got similar
> > setup to work at native 1920x1080 resolution with audio? Also, if it
> > is a problem with not detecting TV's modes, is there a way to manually
> > set the resolution for a HDMI-connected device?
>
> What does your X log look like?  In particular, does it show the EDID
> block for the HDMI monitor, and does it say why it's throwing away the
> 1920x1080 mode.
>
> - ajax
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090514/d5dd3f1c/attachment.htm>

From lili at redhat.com  Wed May 13 16:16:52 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:16:52 +0800
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
In-Reply-To: <4A082F3D.6070500@redhat.com>
References: <4A082F3D.6070500@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A0AF274.3080602@redhat.com>

Greetings testers,

A lot of thanks for those who have provide some encountered issues
before test day. We will confirm these issues in test day. Come on, join
#fedora-qa , let's have the exciting experience for ibus on F11 today. A
liveCD will be ready for us, see more from:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-05-14_iBus

Thanks
Liam

Liam ??:
> Greetings testers,
>
> IBus input method - Ibus has been rewritten in C, and provides a simple,
> clean default system for changing the way international users input
> information into a Fedora system.
> Most of the work on iBus is being done upstream by Huang Peng. This
> feature proposal covers moving from scim to ibus as the default input
> method framework for Fedora 11
> iBus is designed to improve a number of deficiencies of scim:
>
> * Ibus has been rewritten in C. Scim written in C++ using STL has
> problems with weak symbol conflicts without the added complexity and
> lower stability of the scim-bridge layer to workaround that.
> * It is possible to write client and engines for ibus in any language
> that supports dbus bindings.
> * ibus loads engines on demand rather than all installed engines as scim
> does, which improves the startup time and memory footprint.
> * scim loads engines as dl-modules so a problem in any engine can take
> down scim, whereas in ibus because the processes are separated only a
> faulty process will die leaving rest of the system working normally.
> * The architecture of ibus is bus-centric and so much closer to the CJK
> OSS Forum Workgroup 3 draft "Specification of IM engine Service Provider
> Interface" architecture, which might be supportable in the future.
>
> I'd like to invite you to join #fedora-qa this Thursday, May 14, 2009 to
> test Ibus input method.Get more details from:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-05-14_iBus
>
> Thanks,
> Liam
>
>   



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 13 16:22:20 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:22:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090513 changes
Message-ID: <20090513162220.49B271F820A@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Wed May 13 06:15:05 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

dhcp-4.1.0-20.fc11
------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 12:4.1.0-20
- Obsolete libdhcp4client <= 12:4.0.0-34.fc10 (#499290)


dhcpv6-1.2.0-2.fc11
-------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 1.2.0-2
- Obsolete libdhcp6client <= 1.0.22-1.fc10 (#499290)


file-5.03-1.fc11
----------------
* Tue May 12 2009 Daniel Novotny <dnovotny at redhat.com> 5.03-1
- new upstream version


generic-logos-11.0.1-1.fc11
---------------------------
* Tue May 12 2009 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> - 11.0.1-1
- Add new plymouth artwork (#500239)


kernel-2.6.29.3-140.fc11
------------------------
* Tue May 12 2009 Josef Bacik <josef at toxicpanda.com>
- bring btrfs uptodate with mainline

* Tue May 12 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.3-139
- git-bluetooth.patch: suck in three more fixes from 2.6.30.

* Tue May 12 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.3-140
- git-bluetooth-fixes.patch: fix build error in backport from previous
  commit.

* Mon May 11 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.3-137
- net-revert-forcedeth-power-down-phy-when-interface-is.patch:
   Attempt to fix forcedeth failures, (#484505)

* Sat May 09 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.3-136
- Add more verbose debug messages for bug #498401

* Fri May 08 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-134
- linux-2.6-mm-lru-dont-evict-mapped-executable-pages.patch
  linux-2.6-mm-lru-evict-streaming-io-pages-first.patch
    Add VM patches from Rik to fix responsiveness, tested on the rawhide
    kernel.

* Fri May 08 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.3-135
- Linux 2.6.29.3
- Merged patches:
  linux-2.6-x86-64-fix-fpu-corruption-with-signals-and-preemption.patch
  linux-2.6-ath9k-Fix-FIF_BCN_PRBRESP_PROMISC-handling.patch
  drm-intel-g41.patch
  drm-intel-tiled-front.patch
- Rebased patches:
  drm-next.patch - pci ids rejects
  linux-2.6-utrace.patch - fs/proc/array.c rejects
  linux-2.6-execshield.patch - fs/proc/array.c, drop useless hunk, dropped
    already in rawhide.
  linux-2.6-iommu-fixes.patch - single merged patch from series.

* Thu May 07 2009 Ben Skeggs <bskeggs at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-131
- drm-nouveau.patch: fix bar1 mtrr size

* Thu May 07 2009 Kristian H??gsberg <krh at redhat.com> 2.6.29.2-132
- drm intel fixes: Add PCI IDs for G41, fix tiling after resume.

* Thu May 07 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com>
- drm-intel-debugfs-ringbuffer.patch: Add debugfs support for
  intel_gpu_dump utility.


leonidas-kde-theme-11.0.1-1.fc11
--------------------------------
* Tue May 12 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> 11.0.0-1
- synchronize versioning with leonidas-backgrounds
- leonidas lion and landscape theme

* Tue May 12 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> 11.0.1-1
- reenable icon labels

* Mon May 11 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> 0.2.5-1
- text overflow (bz#498630)


nss-3.12.3-4.fc11
-----------------
* Fri May 08 2009 Kai Engert <kaie at redhat.com> - 3.12.3-4
- add conflicts info in order to fix bug 499436


pykickstart-1.53-1.fc11
-----------------------
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> - 1.53-1
- Move lineno= from KSOptionParser.__init__ to parse_args (#497149). (clumens)
- Use the F11 version of the partition command. (clumens)
- Remove the --start and --end options since anaconda no longer uses them. (clumens)
- Remove a broken test case. (clumens)


trac-git-plugin-0.11.0.2-4.20090511svn5396.fc11
-----------------------------------------------
* Mon May 11 2009 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 0.11.0.2-1.20090511svn5396
- Update for trac 0.11.  Drop patches as those are in the 0.11 branch.

* Mon May 11 2009 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 0.11.0.2-2.20090511svn5396
- Drop COPYING, it doesn't make it into the tarball.


wesnoth-1.6.2-1.fc11
--------------------
* Tue May 12 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 1.6.2-1
- 1.6.2 maintenance release.


xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.2-1.fc11
--------------------------------
* Tue May 12 2009 Chris Ball <cjb at laptop.org> 2.11.2-1
- fix crasher bug due to EXA ABI change: RHBZ #500086


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 11









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From chris at tylers.info  Wed May 13 16:30:34 2009
From: chris at tylers.info (Chris Tyler)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:30:34 -0400
Subject: Keyboard does not work with Grub menu - How widespread?
In-Reply-To: <20090511010456.435DC619583@hormel.redhat.com>
References: <20090511010456.435DC619583@hormel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1242232234.13108.411.camel@concord3.proximity.on.ca>

On Mon, 11 May 2009 09:02:04 +0800 John Summerfield wrote:
> I've not seen it on recent systems. I have supposed that it occurs only 
> with USB keyboards (my experience), where the BIOS legacy option is 
> chosen (so DOS programs and programs like GRUB, that don't understand 
> USB, work as expected).
> 
> I've always, when necessary, chosen to avoid the problem by installing a 
> PS/2 keyboard. It's never been a problem here, I always HAVE TOO MANY 
> KEYBOARDS, they breed like power cords.

I wondered if it was the USB keyboard, but...

(1) the mainboard I was using does not have any PS/2 ports -- only USB
-- which I discovered when I tried to plug in a PS/2 device. I think
this will become more and more common.

(2) the second reporter tried a PS/2 keyboard, without success.

-Chris

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499836




From kyle at mcmartin.ca  Wed May 13 16:43:48 2009
From: kyle at mcmartin.ca (Kyle McMartin)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:43:48 -0400
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <d58417910905130912y6e51c4e1mc5527023aa53243f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242225612.21675.83.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<d58417910905130912y6e51c4e1mc5527023aa53243f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090513164348.GB12315@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 02:12:16AM +1000, Masood wrote:
> Here is the output from xrandr and Xorg.0.log:
> 

Can you just attach the entire Xorg.0.log? You've snipped off the EDID
data from it...

regards, Kyle



From kevin at scrye.com  Wed May 13 16:33:28 2009
From: kevin at scrye.com (Kevin Fenzi)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:33:28 -0600
Subject: F11 updates vs. rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4A0779AA.4000603@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A05D928.5030905@yahoo.com> <gu54vn$aj3$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4A076A16.5010400@tmr.com> <4A0779AA.4000603@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20090513103328.506e175e@ohm.scrye.com>

On Mon, 11 May 2009 06:34:42 +0530
Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On 05/11/2009 05:28 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> 
> > That makes perfect sense, what could be better than to release a
> > bunch of packages for which there are known bug fixes, then
> > everyone can install the release and spend the effort and bandwidth
> > to upgrade to install the bug fixes later, one machine at a time
> > instead of from the install DVD.
> 
> You should read
> 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy
> 
> If it is just bug fixes and has a low risk of destabilization, then
> the package maintainers are free to file a freeze exception and
> rel-eng can tag it to go into Fedora 11 directly instead of into the
> updates repository.

Well, if thats so, the confusing thing to me is: 

"Release blocking bugs can still be fixed following the policy below."

Implying that only release blocking bugs should be using that
procedure. Should that sentence be removed? 

> 
> Rahul
> 

kevin
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 198 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/232e21ea/attachment.sig>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 13 16:52:08 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:52:08 -0700
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
In-Reply-To: <20090513043005.GA28751@mail.scottro.net>
References: <npfod6-60q.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<1899006583.371871242187556489.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<20090513043005.GA28751@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <1242233528.2923.899.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 00:30 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:

> As I said, I won't be around to participate, but I can now say it works
> for me (and I threw some other things on a VM to test for a friend as
> well) with:

Test 'Days' are flexible - even if you're not around on the actual day,
we'd love you to do the test cases from the Wiki page and file the
results in the results table, either before or after the actual Day.
thanks!
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jkeating at redhat.com  Wed May 13 16:55:03 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:55:03 -0700
Subject: finger print setup
In-Reply-To: <d58417910905130114i3d30513bp1d8f0d1bf224e6e6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0905120200naebae90h20b32c1defde5fc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242136794.2371.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<d58417910905130114i3d30513bp1d8f0d1bf224e6e6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242233703.6282.13.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 18:14 +1000, Masood wrote:
> Shouldn't it be bug that enabling the option for fingerprint authentication
> doesn't automatically installs gdm-plugin-fingerprint? I didn't have "Enable
> fingerprint login" button in gnome-about-me before until I saw your post and
> installed the required package.

That package is now part of comps so it will be installed when you
install gnome.  It'll also be on the live image.  It just isn't
automatically pulled in by deps, so those of you on rawhide will have to
do an extra step.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/51eb58f7/attachment.sig>

From jkeating at redhat.com  Wed May 13 16:56:38 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:56:38 -0700
Subject: Fedora 11 Release Candidate?
In-Reply-To: <5f6f8c5f0905130219w6200676dv84e6f368be15d654@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1242155937.7796.4.camel@UbuntuHH>
	<1242159028.3452.112.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<5f6f8c5f0905130219w6200676dv84e6f368be15d654@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242233798.6282.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 10:19 +0100, Joshua C. wrote:
> What about .torrent files?

The isos will be changing on a daily basis, torrent won't really help
here.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/67eafc39/attachment.sig>

From bruno at wolff.to  Wed May 13 17:03:35 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:03:35 -0500
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
In-Reply-To: <692653.39723.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <692653.39723.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090513170334.GA4728@wolff.to>

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 07:56:49 -0700,
  Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear fellow testers,
> 
> I have updated to yesterday's updates.  Today X is broken on two machines(those with ATI cards :( )  Will try to send specs and/or Xorg.log.?  to see if we can determine what is wrong.  Hopefully this afternoon or tomorrow morning I can send that in.

What kind of Radeon? My rv530 seems to be working pretty well. My rv280 has
different problems with both modeset and nomodeset. However if I boot with
modeset X works, but VTs don't. (For a while I couldn't see the password
prompt for the luks password, but now it doesn't flake out until udev starts.)

I am running more recent kernels than what is in the rawhide repo right now.



From stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil  Wed May 13 13:49:20 2009
From: stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil (Stephen Berg (Contractor))
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:49:20 -0500
Subject: Kickstart partitioning problem
Message-ID: <8D3OJuv_PagxsvIBkdVBaYgO3yXB5B7i-VxJNMY91q_K5NUfJjX3AQ@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>

I've got a kickstart template that I use for new installs that has been 
working very nicely since Fedora Core 6.  I'm trying out 11 Preview and 
the partitioning section is causing problems.  All of a sudden using 
start and end cylinders is not being honored by anaconda, it complains 
that a size must be specified.  Anyone know if the start and end flags 
for the partitioning functions in kickstarts has changed?

clearpart --all
zerombr yes
part raid.01 --start=1 --end=19 --ondisk sda --asprimary
part raid.02 --start=1 --end=19 --ondisk sdb --asprimary
part raid.03 --start=1 --end=19 --ondisk sdc --asprimary
part raid.04 --start=1 --end=19 --ondisk sdd --asprimary
part raid.11 --start=20 --end=2055 --ondisk sda --asprimary
part raid.12 --start=20 --end=2055 --ondisk sdb --asprimary
part raid.13 --start=20 --end=2055 --ondisk sdc --asprimary
part raid.14 --start=20 --end=2055 --ondisk sdd --asprimary
part raid.21 --start=2056 --end=3052 --ondisk sda --asprimary
part raid.22 --start=2056 --end=3052 --ondisk sdb --asprimary
part raid.23 --start=2056 --end=3052 --ondisk sdc --asprimary
part raid.24 --start=2056 --end=3052 --ondisk sdd --asprimary
part raid.31 --start=3053 --end=60801 --ondisk sda
part raid.32 --start=3053 --end=60801 --ondisk sdb
part raid.33 --start=3053 --end=60801 --ondisk sdc
part raid.34 --start=3053 --end=60801 --ondisk sdd
raid /boot --fstype ext3 --level=RAID1 --device=md1 raid.01 raid.02 
raid.03 raid.04
raid swap --fstype swap --level=RAID10 --device=md2 raid.11 raid.12 
raid.13 raid.14
raid pv.0 --fstype "physical volume (LVM)" --level=RAID5 --device=md0 
raid.21 raid.22 raid.23 raid.24
raid pv.1 --fstype "physical volume (LVM)" --level=RAID5 --device=md3 
raid.31 raid.32 raid.33 raid.34
volgroup system --pesize=32768 pv.0
volgroup data --pesize=32768 pv.1
logvol / --fstype ext3 --name=slash --vgname=system --percent=100
logvol /export/data --fstype xfs --name=data --vgname=data --percent=80


 

-- 
Stephen Berg
Systems Administrator
NRL Code: 7321
Office: 228-688-5738
stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil 



From ajax at redhat.com  Wed May 13 17:27:09 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:27:09 -0400
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <20090513164348.GB12315@bombadil.infradead.org>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242225612.21675.83.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<d58417910905130912y6e51c4e1mc5527023aa53243f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090513164348.GB12315@bombadil.infradead.org>
Message-ID: <1242235629.21675.153.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:43 -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 02:12:16AM +1000, Masood wrote:
> > Here is the output from xrandr and Xorg.0.log:
> > 
> 
> Can you just attach the entire Xorg.0.log? You've snipped off the EDID
> data from it...

Actually, I suspect he didn't.  The xrandr output makes it look like
he's just not getting EDID at all.

There was a fix for EDID fetch from HDMI in 2.6.29.1-104, but it
certainly ought to be included in current kernels.  There might have
been a followup fix since though, I'll check.

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/93d69704/attachment.sig>

From poelstra at redhat.com  Wed May 13 17:40:11 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:40:11 -0700
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
Message-ID: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>

Do we consider this a bug? There was no deps chain in Fedora 10 (it was 
a single package add or remove) so it seems like a regression to me.

John

I got this while doing a 'yum remove sendmail' in latest rawhide.....


================================================================================
  Package                     Arch   Version                     Repository
 
     Size
================================================================================
Removing:
  sendmail                    x86_64 8.14.3-5.fc11 
installed 1.5 M
Removing for dependencies:
  ConsoleKit                  x86_64 0.3.0-8.fc11 
installed 250 k
  ConsoleKit-libs             x86_64 0.3.0-8.fc11 
installed  21 k
  ConsoleKit-x11              x86_64 0.3.0-8.fc11 
installed  42 k
  DeviceKit                   x86_64 003-1 
installed 109 k
  DeviceKit-disks             x86_64 004-2.fc11 
installed 438 k
  DeviceKit-power             x86_64 008-0.1.20090401git.fc11 
installed 214 k
  GConf2                      x86_64 2.26.0-2.fc11 
installed 5.6 M
  GConf2-gtk                  x86_64 2.26.0-2.fc11 
installed  12 k
  ImageMagick                 x86_64 6.5.1.2-1.fc11 
installed 6.3 M
  ImageMagick-perl            x86_64 6.5.1.2-1.fc11 
installed 698 k
  NetworkManager              x86_64 1:0.7.1-4.git20090414.fc11 
installed 3.2 M
  NetworkManager-glib         x86_64 1:0.7.1-4.git20090414.fc11 
installed 374 k
  NetworkManager-gnome        x86_64 1:0.7.1-4.git20090414.fc11 
installed 1.1 M
  PackageKit                  x86_64 0.4.6-8.fc11 
installed 1.5 M
  PackageKit-glib             x86_64 0.4.6-8.fc11 
installed 349 k
  PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin x86_64 0.4.6-8.fc11 
installed 161 k
  PackageKit-gtk-module       x86_64 0.4.6-8.fc11 
installed 160 k
  PackageKit-yum              x86_64 0.4.6-8.fc11 
installed 474 k
  PackageKit-yum-plugin       x86_64 0.4.6-8.fc11 
installed 152 k
  PolicyKit                   x86_64 0.9-6.fc11 
installed 406 k
  PolicyKit-gnome             x86_64 0.9.2-3.fc11 
installed 465 k
  PolicyKit-gnome-libs        x86_64 0.9.2-3.fc11 
installed  44 k
  PyOpenGL                    noarch 3.0.0-0.12.b8.fc11 
installed 6.5 M
  a2ps                        x86_64 4.14-8.fc11 
installed 3.9 M
  acpid                       x86_64 1.0.8-4.fc11 
installed  72 k
  alacarte                    noarch 0.11.10-1.fc11 
installed 394 k
  alsa-plugins-pulseaudio     x86_64 1.0.18-3.fc11 
installed  95 k
  anaconda-yum-plugins        noarch 1:1.0-4.fc11 
installed  21 k
  anacron                     x86_64 2.3-74.fc11 
installed  62 k
  at                          x86_64 3.1.10-30.fc11 
installed  91 k
  at-spi                      x86_64 1.26.0-1.fc11 
installed 867 k
  at-spi-python               x86_64 1.26.0-1.fc11 
installed 257 k
  authconfig-gtk              x86_64 5.4.10-1.fc11 
installed 205 k
  avahi                       x86_64 0.6.25-1.fc11 
installed 884 k
  avahi-glib                  x86_64 0.6.25-1.fc11 
installed  11 k
  bittorrent                  noarch 4.4.0-12.fc11 
installed 1.7 M
  bluez                       x86_64 4.37-1.fc11 
installed 1.1 M
  bluez-cups                  x86_64 4.37-1.fc11 
installed  28 k
  brasero                     x86_64 2.26.1-3.fc11 
installed 9.3 M
  brasero-libs                x86_64 2.26.1-3.fc11 
installed 137 k
  brasero-nautilus            x86_64 2.26.1-3.fc11 
installed  28 k
  bug-buddy                   x86_64 1:2.26.0-2.fc11 
installed 1.6 M
  ccid                        x86_64 1.3.9-1.fc11 
installed 395 k
  cheese                      x86_64 2.26.0-1.fc11 
installed 3.9 M
  compiz                      x86_64 0.7.8-18.fc11 
installed 1.0 M
  compiz-fusion               x86_64 0.7.8-8.fc11 
installed 5.1 M
  compiz-fusion-gnome         x86_64 0.7.8-8.fc11 
installed 1.7 M
  compiz-gnome                x86_64 0.7.8-18.fc11 
installed 483 k
  control-center              x86_64 1:2.26.0-6.fc11 
installed 8.1 M
  coolkey                     x86_64 1.1.0-8.fc11 
installed 211 k
  cpuspeed                    x86_64 1:1.5-6.fc11 
installed  61 k
  crda                        x86_64 1.0.1_2009.03.09-9.fc11 
installed  29 k
  createrepo                  noarch 0.9.7-6.fc11 
installed 312 k
  cronie                      x86_64 1.2-7.fc11 
installed 652 k
  crontabs                    noarch 1.10-29.fc11 
installed 1.7 k
  cups                        x86_64 1:1.4-0.b2.16.fc11 
installed  10 M
  cups-libs                   x86_64 1:1.4-0.b2.16.fc11 
installed 636 k
  cyrus-sasl                  x86_64 2.1.22-22.fc11 
installed 128 k
  dasher                      x86_64 4.10.0-1.fc11 
installed  20 M
  dbus                        x86_64 1:1.2.12-1.fc11 
installed 458 k
  dbus-glib                   x86_64 0.80-2.fc11 
installed 526 k
  dbus-libs                   x86_64 1:1.2.12-1.fc11 
installed 247 k
  dbus-python                 x86_64 0.83.0-5.fc11 
installed 910 k
  dbus-x11                    x86_64 1:1.2.12-1.fc11 
installed  28 k
  deltarpm                    x86_64 3.4-16.fc11 
installed 635 k
  dhclient                    x86_64 12:4.1.0-19.fc11 
installed 590 k
  dhcpv6-client               x86_64 1.2.0-1.fc11 
installed 304 k
  dnsmasq                     x86_64 2.46-2.fc11 
installed 374 k
  ekiga                       x86_64 3.2.0-2.fc11 
installed  14 M
  empathy-libs                x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 656 k
  eog                         x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 4.9 M
  evince                      x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 3.9 M
  evince-djvu                 x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed  32 k
  evince-dvi                  x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 142 k
  evolution                   x86_64 2.26.1-2.fc11 
installed  39 M
  evolution-data-server       x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed  12 M
  evolution-help              noarch 2.26.1-2.fc11 
installed  23 M
  evolution-perl              x86_64 2.26.1-2.fc11 
installed 7.6 k
  f-spot                      x86_64 0.5.0.3-8.fc11 
installed 8.6 M
  farsight2                   x86_64 0.0.9-1.fc11 
installed 415 k
  fedora-gnome-theme          noarch 8.0.0-9.fc11 
installed  18 k
  fedora-icon-theme           noarch 1.0.0-5.fc11 
installed 114 k
  fedora-screensaver-theme    noarch 1.0.0-4.fc11 
installed  18 k
  fedora-setup-keyboard       x86_64 0.4-1.fc11 
installed  13 k
  fedorainfinity-screensaver-theme
                              noarch 1.0.0-2.fc11 
installed 102 k
  file-roller                 x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 4.4 M
  firefox                     x86_64 3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11 
installed  16 M
  firstboot                   x86_64 1.106-1.fc11 
installed 778 k
  foomatic                    x86_64 4.0.0-2.fc11 
installed  32 M
  fprintd                     x86_64 0.1-9.git04fd09cfa.fc11 
installed 103 k
  fprintd-pam                 x86_64 0.1-9.git04fd09cfa.fc11 
installed  17 k
  freeglut                    x86_64 2.4.0-16.fc11 
installed 482 k
  fuse                        x86_64 2.7.4-3.fc11 
installed 222 k
  fuse-encfs                  x86_64 1.5-6.fc11 
installed 1.1 M
  gcalctool                   x86_64 5.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 6.6 M
  gdm                         x86_64 1:2.26.1-7.fc11 
installed 3.9 M
  gdm-user-switch-applet      x86_64 1:2.26.1-7.fc11 
installed 102 k
  gedit                       x86_64 1:2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed  13 M
  gegl                        x86_64 0.0.22-3.fc11 
installed 2.5 M
  geoclue                     x86_64 0.11.1.1-0.3.20090310git3a31d26.fc11
 
installed 205 k
  ghostscript                 x86_64 8.64-6.fc11 
installed  20 M
  gimp                        x86_64 2:2.6.6-3.fc11 
installed  43 M
  gimp-data-extras            noarch 2.0.2-2.fc11 
installed 7.6 M
  gimp-help                   noarch 2.4.2-4.fc11 
installed  90 M
  gimp-help-browser           x86_64 2:2.6.6-3.fc11 
installed  58 k
  gimp-libs                   x86_64 2:2.6.6-3.fc11 
installed 1.8 M
  glx-utils                   x86_64 7.5-0.9.fc11 
installed  46 k
  gnome-applets               x86_64 1:2.26.1-3.fc11 
installed  15 M
  gnome-bluetooth             x86_64 2.27.5-1.fc11 
installed 814 k
  gnome-bluetooth-libs        x86_64 2.27.5-1.fc11 
installed  90 k
  gnome-desktop               x86_64 2.26.1-4.fc11 
installed 2.9 M
  gnome-desktop-sharp         x86_64 2.26.0-1.fc11 
installed 806 k
  gnome-disk-utility          x86_64 0.3-1.fc11 
installed 326 k
  gnome-disk-utility-libs     x86_64 0.3-1.fc11 
installed 1.3 M
  gnome-disk-utility-ui-libs  x86_64 0.3-1.fc11 
installed  45 k
  gnome-games                 x86_64 1:2.26.1-2.fc11 
installed  20 M
  gnome-games-help            noarch 1:2.26.1-2.fc11 
installed  21 M
  gnome-keyring               x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 4.3 M
  gnome-keyring-pam           x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed  37 k
  gnome-mag                   x86_64 0.15.6-1.fc11 
installed 700 k
  gnome-media                 x86_64 2.26.0-6.fc11 
installed 999 k
  gnome-media-libs            x86_64 2.26.0-6.fc11 
installed 4.6 M
  gnome-mount                 x86_64 0.8-5.fc11 
installed 580 k
  gnome-packagekit            x86_64 2.27.2-0.2.20090414git.fc11 
installed 7.2 M
  gnome-panel                 x86_64 2.26.1-2.fc11 
installed 9.5 M
  gnome-panel-libs            x86_64 2.26.1-2.fc11 
installed  58 k
  gnome-pilot                 x86_64 2.0.17-2.fc11 
installed 2.1 M
  gnome-power-manager         x86_64 2.26.1-3.fc11 
installed 7.6 M
  gnome-python2               x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed  22 k
  gnome-python2-applet        x86_64 2.26.0-3.fc11 
installed  22 k
  gnome-python2-bonobo        x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 377 k
  gnome-python2-canvas        x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed  73 k
  gnome-python2-desktop       x86_64 2.26.0-3.fc11 
installed 275 k
  gnome-python2-extras        x86_64 2.25.3-3.fc11 
installed 204 k
  gnome-python2-gconf         x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 136 k
  gnome-python2-gnome         x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 347 k
  gnome-python2-gnomekeyring  x86_64 2.26.0-3.fc11 
installed  45 k
  gnome-python2-gnomeprint    x86_64 2.26.0-3.fc11 
installed 458 k
  gnome-python2-gnomevfs      x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 329 k
  gnome-python2-gtkhtml2      x86_64 2.25.3-3.fc11 
installed  23 k
  gnome-python2-libegg        x86_64 2.25.3-3.fc11 
installed 128 k
  gnome-python2-libwnck       x86_64 2.26.0-3.fc11 
installed  69 k
  gnome-screensaver           x86_64 2.26.1-2.fc11 
installed 3.5 M
  gnome-session               x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 1.9 M
  gnome-session-xsession      x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 4.6 k
  gnome-settings-daemon       x86_64 2.26.1-4.fc11 
installed 2.0 M
  gnome-sharp                 x86_64 2.24.0-3.fc11 
installed 1.3 M
  gnome-speech                x86_64 0.4.25-2.fc11 
installed 134 k
  gnome-system-monitor        x86_64 2.26.1-2.fc11 
installed 4.4 M
  gnome-terminal              x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 6.2 M
  gnome-themes                noarch 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 4.1 M
  gnome-user-share            x86_64 2.26.0-2.fc11 
installed 814 k
  gnome-utils                 x86_64 1:2.26.0-1.fc11 
installed  12 M
  gnome-vfs2                  x86_64 2.24.1-2.fc11 
installed 3.3 M
  gok                         x86_64 2.26.0-1.fc11 
installed 9.3 M
  gssdp                       x86_64 0.6.4-3.fc11 
installed 109 k
  gstreamer-plugins-farsight  x86_64 0.12.10-2.fc11 
installed 424 k
  gstreamer-plugins-good      x86_64 0.10.14-2.fc11 
installed 2.9 M
  gstreamer-python            x86_64 0.10.14-2.fc11 
installed 1.2 M
  gthumb                      x86_64 2.10.11-4.fc11 
installed 7.6 M
  gtk-nodoka-engine           x86_64 0.7.2-4.fc11 
installed 109 k
  gtk-sharp2                  x86_64 2.12.7-4.fc11 
installed 2.7 M
  gtk2                        x86_64 2.16.1-4.fc11 
installed  11 M
  gtk2-engines                x86_64 2.18.1-1.fc11 
installed 886 k
  gtkglext-libs               x86_64 1.2.0-9.fc11 
installed 495 k
  gtkhtml2                    x86_64 2.11.1-5.fc11 
installed 546 k
  gtkhtml3                    x86_64 3.26.1.1-1.fc11 
installed 3.6 M
  gtkmm24                     x86_64 2.16.0-1.fc11 
installed 5.2 M
  gtksourceview2              x86_64 2.6.1-1.fc11 
installed 2.6 M
  gtkspell                    x86_64 2.0.15-1.fc11 
installed  71 k
  gucharmap                   x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 6.1 M
  gupnp                       x86_64 0.12.7-1.fc11 
installed 171 k
  gupnp-av                    x86_64 0.4-1.fc11 
installed  69 k
  gupnp-igd                   x86_64 0.1.1-3.fc11 
installed  50 k
  gutenprint                  x86_64 5.2.3-5.fc11 
installed  13 M
  gutenprint-foomatic         x86_64 5.2.3-5.fc11 
installed  81 M
  gvfs                        x86_64 1.2.2-7.fc11 
installed 3.8 M
  gvfs-archive                x86_64 1.2.2-7.fc11 
installed 127 k
  gvfs-fuse                   x86_64 1.2.2-7.fc11 
installed  29 k
  gvfs-gphoto2                x86_64 1.2.2-7.fc11 
installed 209 k
  gvfs-obexftp                x86_64 1.2.2-7.fc11 
installed 144 k
  gvfs-smb                    x86_64 1.2.2-7.fc11 
installed 274 k
  hal                         x86_64 0.5.12-26.20090226git.fc11 
installed 1.3 M
  hal-cups-utils              x86_64 0.6.19-2.fc11 
installed 102 k
  hal-info                    noarch 20090414-1.fc11 
installed 297 k
  hal-libs                    x86_64 0.5.12-26.20090226git.fc11 
installed 105 k
  hpijs                       x86_64 1:3.9.2-4.fc11 
installed 3.2 M
  hplip                       x86_64 3.9.2-4.fc11 
installed  10 M
  hplip-libs                  x86_64 3.9.2-4.fc11 
installed 325 k
  html2ps                     noarch 1.0-0.2.b5.fc11 
installed 226 k
  httpd                       x86_64 2.2.11-8 
installed 2.8 M
  ibus                        x86_64 1.1.0.20090423-1.fc11 
installed 1.6 M
  ibus-anthy                  x86_64 1.1.0.20090402-1.fc11 
installed 294 k
  ibus-chewing                x86_64 1.0.7.20090414-1.fc11 
installed 100 k
  ibus-gtk                    x86_64 1.1.0.20090423-1.fc11 
installed  23 k
  ibus-hangul                 x86_64 1.1.0.20090328-2.fc11 
installed  72 k
  ibus-libs                   x86_64 1.1.0.20090423-1.fc11 
installed 239 k
  ibus-m17n                   x86_64 1.1.0.20090211-4.fc11 
installed  50 k
  ibus-pinyin                 noarch 1.1.0.20090303-1.fc11 
installed  36 M
  ibus-rawcode                x86_64 1.0.0.20090303-2.fc11 
installed  34 k
  ifd-egate                   x86_64 0.05-21 
installed  44 k
  im-chooser                  x86_64 1.2.6-2.fc11 
installed 249 k
  imsettings                  x86_64 0.106.2-2.fc11 
installed 490 k
  imsettings-libs             x86_64 0.106.2-2.fc11 
installed 296 k
  initscripts                 x86_64 8.95-1 
installed 6.7 M
  iok                         x86_64 1.3.4-1.fc11 
installed 236 k
  iputils                     x86_64 20071127-8.fc11 
installed 285 k
  irqbalance                  x86_64 2:0.55-14.fc11 
installed  25 k
  java-1.5.0-gcj              x86_64 1.5.0.0-25.fc11 
installed 138 k
  java-1.6.0-openjdk          x86_64 1:1.6.0.0-20.b14.fc11 
installed  80 M
  java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin   x86_64 1:1.6.0.0-20.b14.fc11 
installed 214 k
  java_cup                    x86_64 1:0.10k-2 
installed 543 k
  jdom                        x86_64 1.0-6.5.fc11 
installed 888 k
  kbd                         x86_64 1.15-7.fc11 
installed 2.3 M
  kerneloops                  x86_64 0.12-5.fc11 
installed  62 k
  krb5-auth-dialog            x86_64 0.8-4.fc11 
installed 124 k
  libbonobo                   x86_64 2.24.1-1.fc11 
installed 1.8 M
  libbonoboui                 x86_64 2.24.1-1.fc11 
installed 1.2 M
  libcanberra                 x86_64 0.12-1.fc11 
installed 167 k
  libcanberra-gtk2            x86_64 0.12-1.fc11 
installed  45 k
  libdrm                      x86_64 2.4.6-6.fc11 
installed 113 k
  libfprint                   x86_64 0.1.0-6.pre1.fc11 
installed 229 k
  libgail-gnome               x86_64 1.20.1-2.fc11 
installed  52 k
  libgcj                      x86_64 4.4.0-4 
installed  62 M
  libglade2                   x86_64 2.6.4-1.fc11 
installed 143 k
  libglademm24                x86_64 2.6.7-2.fc11 
installed  92 k
  libgnome                    x86_64 2.26.0-1.fc11 
installed 3.0 M
  libgnomecanvas              x86_64 2.26.0-1.fc11 
installed 899 k
  libgnomecups                x86_64 0.2.3-5.fc11 
installed 206 k
  libgnomekbd                 x86_64 2.26.0-1.fc11 
installed 654 k
  libgnomeprint22             x86_64 2.18.6-1.fc11 
installed 1.2 M
  libgnomeprintui22           x86_64 2.18.4-1.fc11 
installed 1.1 M
  libgnomeui                  x86_64 2.24.1-1.fc11 
installed 3.4 M
  libgpod                     x86_64 0.7.0-2.fc11 
installed 698 k
  libgsf                      x86_64 1.14.11-3.fc11 
installed 306 k
  libgweather                 x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed  76 M
  libgxim                     x86_64 0.3.3-2.fc11 
installed 398 k
  libmtp                      x86_64 0.3.7-1.fc11 
installed 560 k
  libnotify                   x86_64 0.4.5-2.fc11 
installed  75 k
  libopenraw-gnome            x86_64 0.0.5-3.fc11 
installed 7.3 k
  libproxy                    x86_64 0.2.3-10.fc11 
installed  85 k
  libproxy-bin                x86_64 0.2.3-10.fc11 
installed 6.6 k
  libproxy-mozjs              x86_64 0.2.3-10.fc11 
installed  15 k
  libproxy-python             x86_64 0.2.3-10.fc11 
installed 8.7 k
  libpst                      x86_64 0.6.36-1.fc11 
installed 126 k
  libpurple                   x86_64 2.5.5-1.fc11 
installed  22 M
  librsvg2                    x86_64 2.26.0-1.fc11 
installed 357 k
  libsane-hpaio               x86_64 3.9.2-4.fc11 
installed 115 k
  libsexy                     x86_64 0.1.11-10.fc11 
installed 100 k
  libsmbclient                x86_64 3.3.2-0.33.fc11 
installed 4.1 M
  libsoup                     x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 627 k
  libspectre                  x86_64 0.2.2-2.fc11 
installed  81 k
  libtelepathy                x86_64 0.3.3-2.fc11 
installed  83 k
  libwmf                      x86_64 0.2.8.4-19.fc11 
installed 433 k
  libwnck                     x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 1.6 M
  libwpd                      x86_64 0.8.14-3.fc11 
installed 725 k
  linuxwacom                  x86_64 0.8.2.2-11.fc11 
installed 600 k
  lucene                      x86_64 2.3.1-4.4.fc11 
installed 4.3 M
  man                         x86_64 1.6f-17.fc11 
installed 370 k
  mdadm                       x86_64 3.0-0.devel3.6.fc11 
installed 1.6 M
  mesa-dri-drivers            x86_64 7.5-0.9.fc11 
installed 5.2 M
  mesa-libGL                  x86_64 7.5-0.9.fc11 
installed 470 k
  mesa-libGLU                 x86_64 7.5-0.9.fc11 
installed 381 k
  metacity                    x86_64 2.26.0-1.fc11 
installed 9.1 M
  microcode_ctl               x86_64 1:1.17-1.47.fc11.1 
installed 1.2 M
  mkinitrd                    x86_64 6.0.83-1.fc11 
installed  81 k
  mlocate                     x86_64 0.22-1 
installed 232 k
  mod_dnssd                   x86_64 0.6-2.fc11 
installed  50 k
  mono-addins                 x86_64 0.4-6.20091702svn127062.1.fc11
 
installed 1.2 M
  mousetweaks                 x86_64 2.26.0-1.fc11 
installed 2.0 M
  nautilus                    x86_64 2.26.2-2.fc11 
installed  14 M
  nautilus-cd-burner-libs     x86_64 2.25.3-7.fc11 
installed  77 k
  nautilus-extensions         x86_64 2.26.2-2.fc11 
installed  35 k
  nautilus-sendto             x86_64 1.1.5-1.fc11 
installed 536 k
  net-snmp                    x86_64 1:5.4.2.1-10.fc11 
installed 797 k
  net-snmp-libs               x86_64 1:5.4.2.1-10.fc11 
installed 4.4 M
  net-tools                   x86_64 1.60-92.fc11 
installed 786 k
  nfs-utils                   x86_64 1:1.1.5-4.fc11 
installed 610 k
  notification-daemon         x86_64 0.4.0-3.fc11 
installed 103 k
  notification-daemon-engine-nodoka
                              x86_64 0.1.0-6.fc11 
installed  60 k
  notify-python               x86_64 0.1.1-6.fc11 
installed  31 k
  nscd                        x86_64 2.9.90-22 
installed 169 k
  nspluginwrapper             x86_64 1.3.0-5.fc11 
installed 440 k
  nss_ldap                    x86_64 264-2.fc11 
installed 1.8 M
  ntp                         x86_64 4.2.4p6-4.fc11 
installed 2.5 M
  ntpdate                     x86_64 4.2.4p6-4.fc11 
installed  74 k
  obex-data-server            x86_64 1:0.4.3-2.fc11 
installed 221 k
  obexd                       x86_64 0.10-1.fc11 
installed 106 k
  openoffice.org-brand        x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed 1.3 M
  openoffice.org-calc         x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed  62 k
  openoffice.org-calc-core    x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed  25 M
  openoffice.org-core         x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed 243 M
  openoffice.org-draw         x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed  41 k
  openoffice.org-draw-core    x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed 3.0 M
  openoffice.org-graphicfilter
                              x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed 679 k
  openoffice.org-impress      x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed  60 k
  openoffice.org-impress-core x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed 3.8 M
  openoffice.org-langpack-en  x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed  0.0
  openoffice.org-math         x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed  23 k
  openoffice.org-math-core    x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed 4.1 M
  openoffice.org-pdfimport    x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed 3.8 M
  openoffice.org-presenter-screen
                              x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed 3.9 M
  openoffice.org-ure          x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed 7.5 M
  openoffice.org-writer       x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed  75 k
  openoffice.org-writer-core  x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed  19 M
  openoffice.org-xsltfilter   x86_64 1:3.1.0-11.2.fc11 
installed 1.9 M
  openssh                     x86_64 5.2p1-2.fc11 
installed 631 k
  openssh-askpass             x86_64 5.2p1-2.fc11 
installed  13 k
  openssh-clients             x86_64 5.2p1-2.fc11 
installed 982 k
  openssh-server              x86_64 5.2p1-2.fc11 
installed 553 k
  orca                        x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 9.6 M
  paps                        x86_64 0.6.8-9.fc11 
installed  54 k
  pavucontrol                 x86_64 0.9.8-1.fc11 
installed 459 k
  pcmciautils                 x86_64 015-2.fc11 
installed  85 k
  pcsc-lite                   x86_64 1.5.2-1.fc11 
installed 395 k
  phonon                      x86_64 4.3.1-3.fc11 
installed 445 k
  phonon-backend-xine         x86_64 4.3.1-3.fc11 
installed 411 k
  pidgin                      x86_64 2.5.5-1.fc11 
installed 2.5 M
  planner                     x86_64 0.14.3-11.fc11 
installed 5.9 M
  plymouth                    x86_64 0.7.0-0.2009.05.08.1.fc11 
installed 100 k
  plymouth-gdm-hooks          x86_64 0.7.0-0.2009.05.08.1.fc11 
installed  171
  plymouth-utils              x86_64 0.7.0-0.2009.05.08.1.fc11 
installed  15 k
  pm-utils                    x86_64 1.2.5-2.fc11 
installed 254 k
  policycoreutils             x86_64 2.0.62-12.2.fc11 
installed 2.9 M
  policycoreutils-gui         x86_64 2.0.62-12.2.fc11 
installed 868 k
  policycoreutils-python      x86_64 2.0.62-12.2.fc11 
installed 978 k
  poppler-glib                x86_64 0.10.5-1.fc11 
installed 172 k
  preupgrade                  noarch 1.0.1-2.fc11 
installed 395 k
  printer-filters             noarch 1.1-2.fc11 
installed  0.0
  ptouch-driver               x86_64 1.2-10.fc11 
installed  49 k
  pulseaudio                  x86_64 0.9.15-11.fc11 
installed 1.9 M
  pulseaudio-libs             x86_64 0.9.15-11.fc11 
installed 1.8 M
  pulseaudio-libs-glib2       x86_64 0.9.15-11.fc11 
installed  17 k
  pulseaudio-module-bluetooth x86_64 0.9.15-11.fc11 
installed 208 k
  pulseaudio-module-gconf     x86_64 0.9.15-11.fc11 
installed  22 k
  pulseaudio-module-x11       x86_64 0.9.15-11.fc11 
installed  49 k
  pulseaudio-utils            x86_64 0.9.15-11.fc11 
installed 169 k
  pygtk2                      x86_64 2.14.1-1.fc11 
installed 4.2 M
  pygtk2-libglade             x86_64 2.14.1-1.fc11 
installed  21 k
  pygtkglext                  x86_64 1.1.0-6.fc11 
installed 376 k
  pygtksourceview             x86_64 2.4.0-3.fc11 
installed 104 k
  python-sexy                 x86_64 0.1.9-8.fc11 
installed  59 k
  python-slip-dbus            noarch 0.1.15-3.fc11 
installed  41 k
  python-slip-gtk             noarch 0.1.15-3.fc11 
installed 5.0 k
  qt                          x86_64 1:4.5.0-14.fc11 
installed  11 M
  qt-x11                      x86_64 1:4.5.0-14.fc11 
installed  43 M
  quota                       x86_64 1:3.17-4.fc11 
installed 815 k
  readahead                   x86_64 1:1.4.9-1.fc11 
installed  94 k
  redhat-lsb                  x86_64 3.2-3.fc11 
installed 636 k
  rhpl                        x86_64 0.220-1 
installed 998 k
  rhythmbox                   x86_64 0.12.1-2.fc11 
installed  10 M
  rng-utils                   x86_64 1:2.0-3.fc11 
installed  27 k
  rpcbind                     x86_64 0.1.7-2.fc11 
installed  94 k
  rpm                         x86_64 4.7.0-1.fc11 
installed 1.9 M
  rpm-libs                    x86_64 4.7.0-1.fc11 
installed 772 k
  rpm-python                  x86_64 4.7.0-1.fc11 
installed 112 k
  rsyslog                     x86_64 3.21.11-1.fc11 
installed 1.0 M
  samba-client                x86_64 3.3.2-0.33.fc11 
installed  31 M
  samba-common                x86_64 3.3.2-0.33.fc11 
installed  33 M
  samba-winbind               x86_64 3.3.2-0.33.fc11 
installed 8.5 M
  sane-backends               x86_64 1.0.19-15.fc11 
installed 4.1 M
  sane-backends-libs          x86_64 1.0.19-15.fc11 
installed 6.2 M
  saxon                       noarch 6.5.5-2.3.fc11 
installed 599 k
  setroubleshoot              x86_64 2.1.8-1.fc11 
installed 421 k
  setroubleshoot-plugins      noarch 2.0.16-1.fc11 
installed 4.3 M
  setroubleshoot-server       x86_64 2.1.8-1.fc11 
installed 1.3 M
  shadow-utils                x86_64 2:4.1.2-13.fc11 
installed 2.9 M
  sinjdoc                     x86_64 0.5-8.fc11 
installed 2.3 M
  smartmontools               x86_64 1:5.38-11.fc11 
installed 791 k
  smolt                       noarch 1.2-4.2.fc11 
installed 1.0 M
  smolt-firstboot             noarch 1.2-4.2.fc11 
installed  17 k
  sound-juicer                x86_64 2.26.1-1.fc11 
installed 3.3 M
  system-config-boot          x86_64 0.3.0-4.fc11 
installed 162 k
  system-config-date          noarch 1.9.38-1.fc11 
installed 2.8 M
  system-config-date-docs     noarch 1.0.7-1.fc11 
installed  17 M
  system-config-firewall      noarch 1.2.16-2.fc11 
installed 534 k
  system-config-firewall-tui  noarch 1.2.16-2.fc11 
installed 2.0 M
  system-config-keyboard      noarch 1.2.15-8.fc11 
installed 205 k
  system-config-language      noarch 1.3.2-5.fc11 
installed 355 k
  system-config-lvm           noarch 1.1.4-5.1.fc11 
installed 2.9 M
  system-config-network       noarch 1.5.97-1.fc11 
installed 2.1 M
  system-config-network-tui   noarch 1.5.97-1.fc11 
installed 5.0 M
  system-config-printer       x86_64 1.1.7-1.fc11 
installed 2.5 M
  system-config-printer-libs  x86_64 1.1.7-1.fc11 
installed 3.5 M
  system-config-rootpassword  noarch 1.99.4-4.fc11 
installed 188 k
  system-config-services      noarch 0.99.33-1.fc11 
installed 781 k
  system-config-services-docs noarch 1.1.6-1.fc11 
installed 5.1 M
  system-config-users         noarch 1.2.86-1.fc11 
installed 1.7 M
  system-config-users-docs    noarch 1.0.6-1.fc11 
installed 9.4 M
  telepathy-farsight          x86_64 0.0.6-1.fc11 
installed  89 k
  telepathy-glib              x86_64 0.7.29-1.fc11 
installed 930 k
  telepathy-mission-control   x86_64 4.67-3.fc11 
installed 547 k
  tex-preview                 noarch 11.85-8.fc11 
installed 123 k
  texlive-latex               x86_64 2007-42.fc11 
installed 100 k
  texlive-texmf-latex         noarch 2007-28.fc11 
installed  26 M
  texlive-utils               x86_64 2007-42.fc11 
installed 453 k
  tigervnc-server             x86_64 0.0.90-0.7.20090427svn3789.fc11
 
installed 2.7 M
  tigervnc-server-module      x86_64 0.0.90-0.7.20090427svn3789.fc11
 
installed 750 k
  tomboy                      x86_64 0.14.1-2.fc11 
installed 8.3 M
  totem                       x86_64 2.26.2-1.fc11 
installed 7.4 M
  totem-gstreamer             x86_64 2.26.2-1.fc11 
installed 138 k
  totem-mozplugin             x86_64 2.26.2-1.fc11 
installed 447 k
  totem-nautilus              x86_64 2.26.2-1.fc11 
installed  58 k
  totem-pl-parser             x86_64 2.26.2-1.fc11 
installed 933 k
  transmission                x86_64 1.51-2.fc11 
installed 2.9 M
  udev                        x86_64 141-3.fc11 
installed 742 k
  unique                      x86_64 1.0.4-4.fc11 
installed 123 k
  usermode-gtk                x86_64 1.100-2 
installed 201 k
  vino                        x86_64 2.26.1-2.fc11 
installed 1.9 M
  vte                         x86_64 0.20.1-1.fc11 
installed 1.5 M
  webkitgtk                   x86_64 1.1.4-1.fc11 
installed  16 M
  wireless-tools              x86_64 1:29-4.fc11 
installed 206 k
  wpa_supplicant              x86_64 1:0.6.8-1.fc11 
installed 614 k
  xalan-j2                    x86_64 2.7.0-8.5.fc11 
installed  11 M
  xdg-user-dirs               x86_64 0.10-4.fc11 
installed 100 k
  xdg-user-dirs-gtk           x86_64 0.8-3.fc11 
installed  98 k
  xine-lib                    x86_64 1.1.16.3-2.fc11 
installed 4.7 M
  xine-lib-pulseaudio         x86_64 1.1.16.3-2.fc11 
installed  17 k
  xml-commons-apis            x86_64 1.3.04-2.5.fc11 
installed 1.6 M
  xorg-x11-drivers            x86_64 7.3-11.fc11 
installed  0.0
  xorg-x11-drv-acecad         x86_64 1.3.0-1.fc11 
installed  20 k
  xorg-x11-drv-aiptek         x86_64 1.2.0-1.fc11 
installed  29 k
  xorg-x11-drv-apm            x86_64 1.2.1-2.fc11 
installed 135 k
  xorg-x11-drv-ast            x86_64 0.87.0-2.fc11 
installed  53 k
  xorg-x11-drv-ati            x86_64 6.12.2-13.fc11 
installed 847 k
  xorg-x11-drv-cirrus         x86_64 1.2.0-6.fc11 
installed  90 k
  xorg-x11-drv-dummy          x86_64 0.3.1-2.fc11 
installed  17 k
  xorg-x11-drv-elographics    x86_64 1.2.3-2.fc11 
installed  20 k
  xorg-x11-drv-evdev          x86_64 2.2.1-3.fc11 
installed  37 k
  xorg-x11-drv-fbdev          x86_64 0.4.0-4.fc11 
installed  25 k
  xorg-x11-drv-fpit           x86_64 1.3.0-2.fc11 
installed  17 k
  xorg-x11-drv-glint          x86_64 1.2.2-2.fc11 
installed 293 k
  xorg-x11-drv-hyperpen       x86_64 1.3.0-1.fc11 
installed  19 k
  xorg-x11-drv-i128           x86_64 1.3.0-2.fc11 
installed  66 k
  xorg-x11-drv-i740           x86_64 1.2.0-3.fc11 
installed  50 k
  xorg-x11-drv-intel          x86_64 2.7.0-4.fc11 
installed 1.0 M
  xorg-x11-drv-keyboard       x86_64 1.3.2-3.fc11 
installed  30 k
  xorg-x11-drv-mach64         x86_64 6.8.0-3.fc11 
installed 237 k
  xorg-x11-drv-mga            x86_64 1.4.10-1.fc11 
installed 186 k
  xorg-x11-drv-mouse          x86_64 1.4.0-2.fc11 
installed  56 k
  xorg-x11-drv-mutouch        x86_64 1.2.1-2.fc11 
installed  20 k
  xorg-x11-drv-nouveau        x86_64 1:0.0.12-34.20090507git1072103.fc11
 
installed 383 k
  xorg-x11-drv-nv             x86_64 2.1.13-1.fc11 
installed 213 k
  xorg-x11-drv-openchrome     x86_64 0.2.903-10.fc11 
installed 464 k
  xorg-x11-drv-penmount       x86_64 1.4.0-2.fc11 
installed  18 k
  xorg-x11-drv-r128           x86_64 6.8.0-3.fc11 
installed 120 k
  xorg-x11-drv-rendition      x86_64 4.2.1-2.fc11 
installed 110 k
  xorg-x11-drv-s3virge        x86_64 1.10.2-2.fc11 
installed  83 k
  xorg-x11-drv-savage         x86_64 2.2.1-1.fc11 
installed 158 k
  xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion  x86_64 1.7.0-1.fc11 
installed 128 k
  xorg-x11-drv-sis            x86_64 0.10.1-2.fc11 
installed 600 k
  xorg-x11-drv-sisusb         x86_64 0.9.1-2.fc11 
installed  82 k
  xorg-x11-drv-synaptics      x86_64 1.1.0-5.fc11 
installed 103 k
  xorg-x11-drv-tdfx           x86_64 1.4.1-2.fc11 
installed  75 k
  xorg-x11-drv-trident        x86_64 1.3.1-2.fc11 
installed 173 k
  xorg-x11-drv-v4l            x86_64 0.2.0-2.fc11 
installed  17 k
  xorg-x11-drv-vesa           x86_64 2.2.0-3.fc11 
installed  26 k
  xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse        x86_64 12.6.3-4.fc11 
installed  29 k
  xorg-x11-drv-vmware         x86_64 10.16.0-3.fc11 
installed  50 k
  xorg-x11-drv-void           x86_64 1.2.0-1.fc11 
installed  12 k
  xorg-x11-drv-voodoo         x86_64 1.2.1-2.fc11 
installed  30 k
  xorg-x11-server-Xorg        x86_64 1.6.1-11.fc11 
installed 3.5 M
  xorg-x11-xinit              x86_64 1.0.9-6.fc11 
installed  68 k
  xsane                       x86_64 0.996-7.fc11 
installed 4.9 M
  xsane-gimp                  x86_64 0.996-7.fc11 
installed 641 k
  xulrunner                   x86_64 1.9.1-0.20.beta4.fc11 
installed  25 M
  yelp                        x86_64 2.26.0-3.fc11 
installed 3.4 M
  yp-tools                    x86_64 2.9-6.fc11 
installed 207 k
  ypbind                      x86_64 3:1.20.4-18.fc11 
installed  73 k
  yum                         noarch 3.2.22-4.fc11 
installed 3.3 M
  yum-presto                  noarch 0.4.5-4.fc11 
installed  67 k
  yum-utils                   noarch 1.1.21-2.fc11 
installed 200 k
  zenity                      x86_64 2.26.0-1.fc11 
installed 3.5 M

Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install      0 Package(s)
Update       0 Package(s)
Remove     474 Package(s)



From poelstra at redhat.com  Wed May 13 17:42:05 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:42:05 -0700
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A0B066D.9020808@redhat.com>

John Poelstra said the following on 05/13/2009 10:40 AM Pacific Time:
> Do we consider this a bug? There was no deps chain in Fedora 10 (it was 
> a single package add or remove) so it seems like a regression to me.
> 
> John
> 
> I got this while doing a 'yum remove sendmail' in latest rawhide.....

<cut>

> Transaction Summary
> ================================================================================ 
> 
> Install      0 Package(s)
> Update       0 Package(s)
> Remove     474 Package(s)
> 

To clarify, I do not think this is a yum bug.

John



From notting at redhat.com  Wed May 13 17:42:29 2009
From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:42:29 -0400
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090513174229.GC16179@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>

John Poelstra (poelstra at redhat.com) said: 
> Do we consider this a bug? There was no deps chain in Fedora 10 (it was  
> a single package add or remove) so it seems like a regression to me.
>
> John
>
> I got this while doing a 'yum remove sendmail' in latest rawhide.....

sendmail provides smtpdaemon. Something very very core on your system
reqiures that, chaos then ensues.

Looking at the yum depsolving output should make it more obvious
what the first package that requires it is.

Bill



From poelstra at redhat.com  Wed May 13 17:47:02 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:47:02 -0700
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <20090513174229.GC16179@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
	<20090513174229.GC16179@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A0B0796.3080407@redhat.com>

Bill Nottingham said the following on 05/13/2009 10:42 AM Pacific Time:
> John Poelstra (poelstra at redhat.com) said: 
>> Do we consider this a bug? There was no deps chain in Fedora 10 (it was  
>> a single package add or remove) so it seems like a regression to me.
>>
>> John
>>
>> I got this while doing a 'yum remove sendmail' in latest rawhide.....
> 
> sendmail provides smtpdaemon. Something very very core on your system
> reqiures that, chaos then ensues.
> 
> Looking at the yum depsolving output should make it more obvious
> what the first package that requires it is.
> 
> Bill
> 

I don't think I have anything very unusual.

http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/paste-bin/yum-remove-sendmail.log

John



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 13 17:45:23 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:45:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <4A0B066D.9020808@redhat.com>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com> <4A0B066D.9020808@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131344030.7487@localhost.localdomain>



On Wed, 13 May 2009, John Poelstra wrote:

> John Poelstra said the following on 05/13/2009 10:40 AM Pacific Time:
>> Do we consider this a bug? There was no deps chain in Fedora 10 (it was a 
>> single package add or remove) so it seems like a regression to me.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> I got this while doing a 'yum remove sendmail' in latest rawhide.....
>
> <cut>
>
>> Transaction Summary
>> ================================================================================ 
>> Install      0 Package(s)
>> Update       0 Package(s)
>> Remove     474 Package(s)
>> 
>
> To clarify, I do not think this is a yum bug.
>


I'd need to see the rest of the depsolving output - but it seems like a 
valid removal chain.

sendmail removes smtpdaemon.

now if you want to remove sendmail and replace it with another smtpdaemon 
then you can use yum shell:

yum shell
> remove sendmail
> install postfix # (or exim or whatever)
> run


that should work correctly.

-sv



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 13 17:49:51 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:49:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <4A0B0796.3080407@redhat.com>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
	<20090513174229.GC16179@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
	<4A0B0796.3080407@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131346470.7487@localhost.localdomain>



On Wed, 13 May 2009, John Poelstra wrote:

> Bill Nottingham said the following on 05/13/2009 10:42 AM Pacific Time:
>> John Poelstra (poelstra at redhat.com) said: 
>>> Do we consider this a bug? There was no deps chain in Fedora 10 (it was  a 
>>> single package add or remove) so it seems like a regression to me.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> I got this while doing a 'yum remove sendmail' in latest rawhide.....
>> 
>> sendmail provides smtpdaemon. Something very very core on your system
>> reqiures that, chaos then ensues.
>> 
>> Looking at the yum depsolving output should make it more obvious
>> what the first package that requires it is.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>
> I don't think I have anything very unusual.
>
> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/paste-bin/yum-remove-sendmail.log
>

Here you go:

---> Package sendmail.x86_64 0:8.14.3-5.fc11 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: /usr/sbin/sendmail for package: redhat-lsb
--> Processing Dependency: /usr/sbin/sendmail for package: cronie
--> Running transaction check
---> Package cronie.x86_64 0:1.2-7.fc11 set to be erased
---> Package redhat-lsb.x86_64 0:3.2-3.fc11 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: /etc/cron.d for package: crontabs
--> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes.
--> Running transaction check
---> Package crontabs.noarch 0:1.10-29.fc11 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: crontabs for package: anacron
--> Processing Dependency: crontabs for package: rpm


cronie requires /usr/sbin/sendmail (sendmail)
crontabs requires /etc/cron.d (cronie)
rpm requires crontabs (crontabs)
policycoreutils requires rpm (rpm)

and everything else falls apart from there.

-sv



From jkeating at redhat.com  Wed May 13 17:52:25 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:52:25 -0700
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1242237145.6282.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 10:40 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> 
> Do we consider this a bug? There was no deps chain in Fedora 10 (it was 
> a single package add or remove) so it seems like a regression to me.
> 
> John
> 
> I got this while doing a 'yum remove sendmail' in latest rawhide.....

Usually running with yum -d9 you'll get a better picture of the cascade
effect.

In this case:

Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package sendmail.x86_64 0:8.14.3-5.fc11 set to be erased
Checking deps for sendmail.x86_64 0-8.14.3-5.fc11 - e
cronie-1.2-7.fc11.x86_64 requires: /usr/sbin/sendmail
--> Processing Dependency: /usr/sbin/sendmail for package: cronie
Needed Require is not a package name. Looking up: /usr/sbin/sendmail
Potential Provider: sendmail.x86_64 0:8.14.3-5.fc11
Mode is e for provider of /usr/sbin/sendmail: sendmail.x86_64 0:8.14.3-5.fc11
Mode for pkg providing /usr/sbin/sendmail: e
TSINFO: cronie-1.2-7.fc11.x86_64 package requiring /usr/sbin/sendmail marked as erase
--> Running transaction check
---> Package cronie.x86_64 0:1.2-7.fc11 set to be erased
Checking deps for cronie.x86_64 0-1.2-7.fc11 - e
crontabs-1.10-29.fc11.noarch requires: /etc/cron.d
--> Processing Dependency: /etc/cron.d for package: crontabs
Needed Require is not a package name. Looking up: /etc/cron.d
Potential Provider: cronie.x86_64 0:1.2-7.fc11
Mode is e for provider of /etc/cron.d: cronie.x86_64 0:1.2-7.fc11
Mode for pkg providing /etc/cron.d: e
TSINFO: crontabs-1.10-29.fc11.noarch package requiring /etc/cron.d marked as erase
--> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes.
---> Loop Number: 2
Restarting Loop
--> Running transaction check
---> Package crontabs.noarch 0:1.10-29.fc11 set to be erased
Checking deps for crontabs.noarch 0-1.10-29.fc11 - e
anacron-2.3-74.fc11.x86_64 requires: crontabs
--> Processing Dependency: crontabs for package: anacron
Potential Provider: crontabs.noarch 0:1.10-29.fc11
Mode is e for provider of crontabs: crontabs.noarch 0:1.10-29.fc11
Mode for pkg providing crontabs: e
TSINFO: anacron-2.3-74.fc11.x86_64 package requiring crontabs marked as erase
rpm-4.7.0-1.fc11.x86_64 requires: crontabs
--> Processing Dependency: crontabs for package: rpm
Needed Require has already been looked up, cheating
Potential Provider: crontabs.noarch 0:1.10-29.fc11
Mode is e for provider of crontabs: crontabs.noarch 0:1.10-29.fc11
Mode for pkg providing crontabs: e
TSINFO: rpm-4.7.0-1.fc11.x86_64 package requiring crontabs marked as erase
--> Running transaction check
---> Package anacron.x86_64 0:2.3-74.fc11 set to be erased
Checking deps for anacron.x86_64 0-2.3-74.fc11 - e
---> Package rpm.x86_64 0:4.7.0-1.fc11 set to be erased

It looks like cronie requires sendmail, and cronie provides /etc/cron.d,
which is required by crontabs.  rpm itself requires crontabs, and since
the rest of your system requires rpm, well....

Whether or not this is a bug is debatable.  Systems should have some
MTA, so removing sendmail without any other MTA on your system (that
provides the /usr/sbin/sendmail file) is a bad idea.  However rpm itself
requiring crontabs could be fixed, either by putting the cron job it has
in a subpackage or by putting the cron job in something else.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/ca5925c7/attachment.sig>

From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Wed May 13 17:55:18 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:55:18 -0600
Subject: Mouse fix
Message-ID: <1242237318.10547.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Just wondering if anyone found a fix for the mouse choices problem that
seems only to happen in F11 64-bit OS. Also, when I am running vmware
and logout, I have to force it to quit and there is no transference of
sound.  In other words, there is no sound on vmware. 
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From yinyang at eburg.com  Wed May 13 17:53:31 2009
From: yinyang at eburg.com (Gordon Messmer)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:53:31 -0700
Subject: copy paste problem.
In-Reply-To: <49FF4768.2060004@nerd.com>
References: <8049a2b40905020136u26309a81n2f48a6431d00112b@mail.gmail.com>	<gtima1$2bf$1@ger.gmane.org>	<1241455120.2923.104.camel@adam.local.net>	<f6ca9fed0905040943q65bde863yae52747397ccc5ac@mail.gmail.com>	<1241460240.2923.122.camel@adam.local.net>	<f6ca9fed0905041157ia895cadma691d9816dd3c1ea@mail.gmail.com>	<1241464129.2923.188.camel@adam.local.net>
	<49FF4768.2060004@nerd.com>
Message-ID: <4A0B091B.5000806@eburg.com>

Rick Stevens wrote:
> 
> Middle mouse button paste has worked for me since F7 or so under Gnome
> with or without the "source" window being open.  It even works under
> Synergy (cut from one machine, paste in another).  If it's not so in 
> F11, then yeah, I'd say it's broken.

I think you're mistaken.  I can't middle-click paste from gedit to 
gnome-terminal after quitting gedit in F10, for instance.  I'm in 
agreement with earlier posters, this has never been possible.



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 13 18:03:41 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:03:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <1242237145.6282.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
	<1242237145.6282.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131402550.7487@localhost.localdomain>



On Wed, 13 May 2009, Jesse Keating wrote:

>
> Whether or not this is a bug is debatable.  Systems should have some
> MTA, so removing sendmail without any other MTA on your system (that
> provides the /usr/sbin/sendmail file) is a bad idea.  However rpm itself
> requiring crontabs could be fixed, either by putting the cron job it has
> in a subpackage or by putting the cron job in something else.
>

I agree with  this except then we have to put rpmq-crontab in a separate 
pkg which would need to be added to comps base, I think.

-sv



From jkeating at redhat.com  Wed May 13 18:08:19 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:08:19 -0700
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131402550.7487@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
	<1242237145.6282.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131402550.7487@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242238099.6282.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 14:03 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
> 
> I agree with  this except then we have to put rpmq-crontab in a separate 
> pkg which would need to be added to comps base, I think.

Or we question the usefulness of the cron job itself and potentially
scrub it all together.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/39f6e234/attachment.sig>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 13 18:21:37 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:21:37 -0700
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <20090513174229.GC16179@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
	<20090513174229.GC16179@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1242238897.2923.907.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 13:42 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> John Poelstra (poelstra at redhat.com) said: 
> > Do we consider this a bug? There was no deps chain in Fedora 10 (it was  
> > a single package add or remove) so it seems like a regression to me.
> >
> > John
> >
> > I got this while doing a 'yum remove sendmail' in latest rawhide.....
> 
> sendmail provides smtpdaemon. Something very very core on your system
> reqiures that, chaos then ensues.

...and the reason you didn't see it on F10 is likely that you had
something else which provides smtpdaemon installed as well (postfix,
exim...), so removing sendmail didn't break the provision of smtpdaemon.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 13 18:20:19 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:20:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <1242238099.6282.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
	<1242237145.6282.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131402550.7487@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242238099.6282.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131420060.7487@localhost.localdomain>



On Wed, 13 May 2009, Jesse Keating wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 14:03 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>
>> I agree with  this except then we have to put rpmq-crontab in a separate
>> pkg which would need to be added to comps base, I think.
>
> Or we question the usefulness of the cron job itself and potentially
> scrub it all together.

LA LA LAL LA LA LA

-sv



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Wed May 13 19:26:02 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:26:02 -0400
Subject: Mouse fix
In-Reply-To: <1242237318.10547.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242237318.10547.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242242762.3602.2.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 11:55 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone found a fix for the mouse choices problem that
> seems only to happen in F11 64-bit OS. 

I am running a 64-bit F11 system, and I do not experience this problem.
If "yum update" doesn't fix it, you'll need to file a new bug at
http://bugzilla.redhat.com with the info I described in an earlier
message.  The other bug reporting this problem has since been closed as
fixed, and this sounds like a problem that is specific to your hardware
or configuration.

BTW, if you have mice of a different type around, does it also happen
with them?

-B.



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May 13 19:32:07 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:32:07 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-13 - Fedora QA Meeting Recap
In-Reply-To: <1242222352.2678.132.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1242222352.2678.132.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1242243127.2583.47.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

Full IRC transcript available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090513

= Attendees =

* Jesse Keating (f13)
* Adam Williamson (adamw)
* J?hann Gu?mundsson (viking_ice)
* Will Woods (wwoods)
* James Laska (jlaska)
* John Poelstra (poelcat)
* Kevin Fenzi (nirik)

= Previous meeting follow-up =

* [wwoods] - write a few more upgrade cases (encrypted root upgrade)
*: Been doing a lot of upgrades this past week, but haven't documented
them yet.

* [adamw] - update [[BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow]] wiki page to include
MODIFED->CLOSE process for rawhide bugs during freeze
*: Completed ... see announcement
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-May/msg01034.html

= Autoqa update =

* Project page - http://autoqa.fedorahosted.org

No updates this week.  Wwoods noted that most time was spent testing
blocker bugs.

= F-11 Test Day Feedback =

As we approach our final F11 Test Day, an idea was raised by
[[User:Robertmwilliams]] about how best to solicit feedback.  Several
ideas were raised including, mailing list blast, blog, formal survey.
Under the ''Keep It Simple Silly'' model, adamw recommended an email
blast to fedora-test-list@ while bcc'ing maintainers involved with F11
test day.  Jlaska took an action item to follow up next week.

= F-11-GA Prep =

* Blocker bugs (by component) - http://tinyurl.com/qzjey2     
* Schedule - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule
** Blocker Bug review hosted by jkeating on May 11, and May 12 - 35 OPEN
blocker bugs (down from the ~78 or so on Sunday) ... so the blocker bug
meetings were effective at reducing number of the blocker bugs
** An additional blocker bug meeting will be hosted next Monday, May 18,
2009 ... stay tuned for announcement.

While discussing blocker bug meeting, f13 noted the timing was not
ideal.  Some discussion took place around the best timing, and poelcat
will update the Fedora 12 schedule with proposed bug review times for
review.

= How's my driving? =

Suggestions for improving the weekly QA meeting.  Are there topics you'd
like to see more, or less, of in these meetings.  Is the timing
appropriate?

No suggestions were offered.

= Open discussion =

== iBus Test Day ==

adamw reminded us about the scheduled iBus test day tomorrow (May 14th,
2009).  
* Announcement sent by lili -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg00444.html
* Blog article posted by adamw -
http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/05/12/ibus-test-day-on-thursday

== QA Needs to know - What is Fedora? ==

viking_ice asked ... I would like QA to pressure the board ( or whomever
is on top of the food chain ) to decide if we are targeting aunt flu or
not to get that in the clear once and for all and work can be started by
the community to either better support aunt flu or not! I'm a bit
worried when things are being run with this gray aria attitude we end up
with an "FDS" incident on our hands

* f13 noted the board has been trying to determine "What is Fedora"
* stickster+adamw directed folks to Board meeting minutes at
[[Board/Meetings/2009-04-29#What_is_Fedora.3F]],
[[Board/Meetings/2009-04-22#What_is_Fedora.3F]]

The team discussed whether an official statement was needed from the
Fedora QA team.  The consensus was no official interaction was needed,
but noted that high-level guidance would improve focus around
prioritizing test efforts, blocker bug review, and release criteria.
Current efforts cast a very wide net, which may not be in line with the
overall goals of the Fedora project.

== libfprintd patch ==

wwoods raised awareness of an fprintd bug affecting fingerprint readers
on several laptop configurations (including those used by wwoods and
jlaska).  Wwoods asked for team review whether this bug was a blocker or
a day-0 worthy.  Consensus was to request a release note for the bug and
line up for day-0.  f13 noted that he would accept this request as it
may impact the F11 Fingerprint reader feature.

* [[rhbug:500460|500460]] - libfprint fails to read commands from SGS
Thomson reader (ThinkPad T43)

== F-12 Alpha status ==

Viking_ice asked for a status update on the Fedora 12 Alpha decision.
f13 directed folks to the meeting summary
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-May/msg00581.html

== Autoqa Deps Checking? ==

Josh Boyer asked for more information on autoqa deps checking.  Wwoods
and f13 noted that deps checking after the repo udpates is planned for
autoqa.  Wwoods noted these tests are intended to be informational (non
blocking) tests.

= Upcoming QA events =

* 2009-05-14 - [[Test Day:2009-05-14 iBus|iBus Test Day]]
* 2009-05-19 - [[BugZappers/Triage_days]]

= Action items =

# [adamw] - to file a ticket to get bodhi fixed
# [adamw] - ask bugzilla guys to add a link from the bugzilla fields
description page to the wiki page, for fedora
# [jlaska] - Send informal test day feedback survey to fedora-test-list
and test day participants
# [poelcat] - Propose updated F12 schedule with blocker bug dates

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/2aa7c997/attachment.sig>

From ajax at redhat.com  Wed May 13 19:34:59 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:34:59 -0400
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <1242238099.6282.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
	<1242237145.6282.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131402550.7487@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242238099.6282.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242243299.21675.163.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 11:08 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 14:03 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
> > 
> > I agree with  this except then we have to put rpmq-crontab in a separate 
> > pkg which would need to be added to comps base, I think.
> 
> Or we question the usefulness of the cron job itself and potentially
> scrub it all together.

IAWTP.

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/fb2a809b/attachment.sig>

From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Wed May 13 20:50:07 2009
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:50:07 +0200
Subject: 2009-05-14 - Fedora Test Day - IBus input method
In-Reply-To: <1981105658.421911242224939919.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1981105658.421911242224939919.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1242247807.2321.15.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 10:28 -0400, Jens Petersen wrote:
> ----- "Martin Sourada" <martin.sourada at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It also works better than scim in inkscape). One thing
> > that bothers me though is that when disabled after using, the anthy
> > panel tends to still appear semi-transparently [see attachment], but
> > is not clickable. I usually have to turn it off twice for it to
> > disappear completely when switched to another window.
> 
> Oh that is new to me: please file a bug.
> 
Done [1]. I also noticed I can trigger it only when I have compositing
enabled (not sure about compiz, I am not very friendly with it, so I use
metacity for the job). I mentioned it in the bug report as well.

> > Also there seems to be
> > missing an option to add new word to dictionary - it was present in
> > scim.
> 
> Right we are planning to add that, hopefully in time for f12.
> 
Great :-)

> > Note: I am native Czech speaker and I regularly type in Czech,
> > English
> > and Japanese and I don't have issues with either (apart from the fact
> > that is much more convenient to use US keyboard layout when writing
> > through ibus than the Czech one). Would be nice though if turning up
> > ibus also switched the keyboard layout to US, but that's maybe asking
> > for to much >_<
> 
> If you could file a bug/rfe that would be appreciated.
> 
Done [2].

> Jens
> 
Martin

References:
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500731
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500732

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/79608242/attachment.sig>

From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 13 21:04:55 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:04:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131420060.7487@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
	<1242237145.6282.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131402550.7487@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242238099.6282.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131420060.7487@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131704240.7487@localhost.localdomain>

> On Wed, 13 May 2009, Jesse Keating wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 14:03 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>> 
>>> I agree with  this except then we have to put rpmq-crontab in a separate
>>> pkg which would need to be added to comps base, I think.
>> 
>> Or we question the usefulness of the cron job itself and potentially
>> scrub it all together.
>
> LA LA LAL LA LA LA
>

Here's a patch to remove the crontab (and logrotate) requirements  and 
files from rpm.


http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/patches/rpm-remove-crontab-logrotate.patch

I can apply it if it is wanted.
-sv



From cra at WPI.EDU  Wed May 13 21:15:47 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:15:47 -0400
Subject: finger print setup
In-Reply-To: <1242233703.6282.13.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <561c252c0905120200naebae90h20b32c1defde5fc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242136794.2371.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<d58417910905130114i3d30513bp1d8f0d1bf224e6e6@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242233703.6282.13.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090513211547.GO31498@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 09:55:03AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 18:14 +1000, Masood wrote:
> > Shouldn't it be bug that enabling the option for fingerprint authentication
> > doesn't automatically installs gdm-plugin-fingerprint? I didn't have "Enable
> > fingerprint login" button in gnome-about-me before until I saw your post and
> > installed the required package.
> 
> That package is now part of comps so it will be installed when you
> install gnome.  It'll also be on the live image.  It just isn't
> automatically pulled in by deps, so those of you on rawhide will have to
> do an extra step.

Great.  That solves my "bug".  I fixed the wiki to mention the need to 
install gdm-plugin-fingerprint.



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed May 13 21:24:05 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:24:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
Message-ID: <374924.45555.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> wrote:

> From: Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: X does not work with ATI based machines
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 8:51 AM
> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 07:56 -0700,
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > Dear fellow testers,
> > 
> > I have updated to yesterday's updates.? Today X
> is broken on two
> > machines(those with ATI cards :( )? Will try to
> send specs and/or
> > Xorg.log.?? to see if we can determine what is
> wrong.? Hopefully this
> > afternoon or tomorrow morning I can send that in.
> 
> Which ATI cards?? They've made slightly more than
> one.
[olivares at riohigh Documents]$ /sbin/lspci | grep 'VGA'
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[olivares at riohigh Documents]$ 

I logged into level 3 and startx and its working.  The other one, however is not.  I see the following :

ERROR:  failed in exec of /bin/echo: input/output error
ERROR:  failed in exec of /bin/sleep: input/output error
ERROR:  failed in exec of /bin/sleep:  input/output error
Kernel panic - not syncing:  Attempted to kill init!
[drm:radeonfb_panic] : ERROR:  panic occurred, switching back to text console.  

I started in level 3 and this is the message that I see.  The caps lock and scroll lock lights in the keyboard are flashing at me also.  I will try to login to level 3 under a previous kernel and see if I can boot and report back.

Regards,

Antonio
> 
> - ajax
> 
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> 
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed May 13 21:29:22 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:29:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
Message-ID: <859927.75142.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:

> From: Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to>
> Subject: Re: X does not work with ATI based machines
> To: "Antonio Olivares" <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:03 AM
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 07:56:49
> -0700,
> ? Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > Dear fellow testers,
> > 
> > I have updated to yesterday's updates.? Today X
> is broken on two machines(those with ATI cards :( )?
> Will try to send specs and/or Xorg.log.?? to see if we
> can determine what is wrong.? Hopefully this afternoon
> or tomorrow morning I can send that in.
> 
> What kind of Radeon? My rv530 seems to be working pretty
> well. My rv280 has
> different problems with both modeset and nomodeset. However
> if I boot with
> modeset X works, but VTs don't. (For a while I couldn't see
> the password
> prompt for the luks password, but now it doesn't flake out
> until udev starts.)

http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_808fc0dc-61b4-4f57-a41a-62cdc710058d

According to smolt it is an:

ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 2100 (wiki)
http://www.smolts.org/reports/view_device/Radeon%202100

All I see is blinking lights with it even with previous kernels :( 

Regards,

Antonio 
> 
> I am running more recent kernels than what is in the
> rawhide repo right now.
> 


      



From jkeating at redhat.com  Wed May 13 22:40:00 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:40:00 -0700
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131704240.7487@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
	<1242237145.6282.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131402550.7487@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242238099.6282.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131420060.7487@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131704240.7487@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242254400.6282.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 17:04 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
> Here's a patch to remove the crontab (and logrotate) requirements
> and 
> files from rpm.
> 
> 
> http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/patches/rpm-remove-crontab-logrotate.patch
> 
> I can apply it if it is wanted.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500722

Lets see what Panu says.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/79a4d118/attachment.sig>

From beland at alum.mit.edu  Wed May 13 22:47:57 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:47:57 -0400
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <1242237318.10547.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242237318.10547.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242254877.3602.11.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 11:55 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> Also, when I am running vmware
> and logout, I have to force it to quit and there is no transference of
> sound.  In other words, there is no sound on vmware. 

If you are using the snd_ens1371 sound card driver ("/sbin/lsmod | grep
snd" should give you some idea), you may be experiencing this bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496714
ens1371: snd_pcm_avail() overflow breaks sound under kvm/vmware/etc.

If you have different hardware, you can file a new bug against
PulseAudio on bugzilla.redhat.com providing similar diagnostic
information (like the output of "pulseaudio -vvvv").  If the problem is
with VMWare itself, Fedora will not be able to help, but if it is that
should route your report to the right person.

I assume you are running Fedora 11 Rawhide inside VMWare; it would also
be helpful to note the host operating system, etc.

The need to force-quit VMWare is a separate issue; again I don't know if
that's a problem with Fedora or VMWare.  If it's the latter, you'd need
to report the problem to them...somehow.  I don't see an obvious place
on their web site to do that, though if you have purchased the product
you may have the right to contact technical support.

-B.



From davidsen at tmr.com  Wed May 13 23:10:52 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:10:52 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 Release Candidate?
In-Reply-To: <1242159028.3452.112.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242155937.7796.4.camel@UbuntuHH>
	<1242159028.3452.112.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A0B537C.1000501@tmr.com>

Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 12:18 -0700, MJang wrote:
>> Just wondering - will there be ISO spins of the Fedora 11 Release
>> Candidate (on the schedule for today), or would I just dump the os/
>> directory from today's rawhide?
> 
> There will not be public RC isos.  Use rawhide for that.  The RCs come
> too quickly and are too large to mirror to the public.
> 
Thought that was the idea of jigdo, that you could use what had changed without 
changing everything. I have saved every rpm I downloaded, but there are more 
than a few. ;-) I'd like to be able to create a reasonable install disk rather 
than install obsolete buggy packages I have to upgrade immediately. I said that 
in an earlier post, but if there's a solution I'm sure there are others who have 
saved their downloads and now are ready to install on other machines.

If there's something I'm missing, feel free to clarify, I have the pre, the 
snapshots for 32/64 bit x86, and every rpm up to about 15 minutes ago. I can D/L 
a whole DVD but I'd be happier to save bandwidth.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Wed May 13 23:28:56 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:28:56 -0600
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <1242254877.3602.11.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1242237318.10547.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242254877.3602.11.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242257336.3308.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

No I am not running F11 in my vmware.  I never had these problems before
F11.


On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 18:47 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 11:55 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > Also, when I am running vmware
> > and logout, I have to force it to quit and there is no transference of
> > sound.  In other words, there is no sound on vmware. 
> 
> If you are using the snd_ens1371 sound card driver ("/sbin/lsmod | grep
> snd" should give you some idea), you may be experiencing this bug:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496714
> ens1371: snd_pcm_avail() overflow breaks sound under kvm/vmware/etc.
> 
> If you have different hardware, you can file a new bug against
> PulseAudio on bugzilla.redhat.com providing similar diagnostic
> information (like the output of "pulseaudio -vvvv").  If the problem is
> with VMWare itself, Fedora will not be able to help, but if it is that
> should route your report to the right person.
> 
> I assume you are running Fedora 11 Rawhide inside VMWare; it would also
> be helpful to note the host operating system, etc.
> 
> The need to force-quit VMWare is a separate issue; again I don't know if
> that's a problem with Fedora or VMWare.  If it's the latter, you'd need
> to report the problem to them...somehow.  I don't see an obvious place
> on their web site to do that, though if you have purchased the product
> you may have the right to contact technical support.
> 
> -B.
> 
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 13 23:30:57 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:30:57 -0700
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
In-Reply-To: <374924.45555.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <374924.45555.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1242257457.2923.917.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 14:24 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:

> I logged into level 3 and startx and its working.  The other one, however is not.  I see the following :
> 
> ERROR:  failed in exec of /bin/echo: input/output error
> ERROR:  failed in exec of /bin/sleep: input/output error
> ERROR:  failed in exec of /bin/sleep:  input/output error
> Kernel panic - not syncing:  Attempted to kill init!
> [drm:radeonfb_panic] : ERROR:  panic occurred, switching back to text console.  
> 
> I started in level 3 and this is the message that I see.  The caps lock and scroll lock lights in the keyboard are flashing at me also.  I will try to login to level 3 under a previous kernel and see if I can boot and report back.

That's got nothing to do with your graphics card. The system's stuffed.
Likely the RAM or hard disk. But something's dead (or just loose).

BTW, FWIW, I always find the output of plain lspci about as useful as a
chocolate teapot. What I want to know is the PCI ID, and it doesn't give
you that. "lspci -nn" does, though. I don't know if the X maintainers
prefer that output or if they're able to work with just plain lspci...
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 13 23:55:37 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 05:25:37 +0530
Subject: F11 updates vs. rawhide
In-Reply-To: <20090513103328.506e175e@ohm.scrye.com>
References: <4A05D928.5030905@yahoo.com>
	<gu54vn$aj3$1@ger.gmane.org>	<4A076A16.5010400@tmr.com>
	<4A0779AA.4000603@fedoraproject.org>
	<20090513103328.506e175e@ohm.scrye.com>
Message-ID: <4A0B5DF9.1090303@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/13/2009 10:03 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

> Well, if thats so, the confusing thing to me is: 
> 
> "Release blocking bugs can still be fixed following the policy below."
> 
> Implying that only release blocking bugs should be using that
> procedure. Should that sentence be removed? 

Probably clarified rather than removed. Feel free to. In practise, the
bug fixes are not limited to just release critical ones.

Rahul



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Wed May 13 23:57:28 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:57:28 -0400
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <1242257336.3308.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242237318.10547.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242254877.3602.11.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242257336.3308.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242259048.3602.14.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 17:28 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> No I am not running F11 in my vmware.  I never had these problems before
> F11.

OK.  Well, I encourage you to describe the system you are having trouble
with in your bug report in detail, so package maintainers can figure out
what's going wrong.

-B.



From kdekorte at gmail.com  Thu May 14 00:02:17 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:02:17 -0600
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
In-Reply-To: <1242229872.21675.150.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <692653.39723.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1242229872.21675.150.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A0B5F89.3020709@gmail.com>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 05/13/2009 09:51 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 07:56 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> Dear fellow testers,
>>
>> I have updated to yesterday's updates.  Today X is broken on two
>> machines(those with ATI cards :( )  Will try to send specs and/or
>> Xorg.log.?  to see if we can determine what is wrong.  Hopefully this
>> afternoon or tomorrow morning I can send that in.
> 
> Which ATI cards?  They've made slightly more than one.
> 
> - ajax
> 

I have an ATI 3650 card, and the kernel-2.6.29.3-140.fc11.x86_64 fails
to boot, but kernel-2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64 works fine.. from
/var/log/messages I see this

So, I would pull kernel -140 or issue a new one with the fix


May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: Modules linked in: ipt_MASQUERADE
iptable_nat nf_nat sco bridge stp llc bnep l2cap bluetooth vfat fat
sunrpc ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables ipv6
cpufreq_ondemand acpi_cpufreq freq_table dm_multipath kvm_intel kvm
uinput snd_hda_codec_atihdmi snd_hda_codec_intelhdmi
snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_usb_audio
snd_usb_lib snd_rawmidi snd_seq_device snd_pcm snd_hwdep pwc snd_timer
videodev snd firewire_ohci usb_storage pata_jmicron i2c_i801 iTCO_wdt
iTCO_vendor_support v4l1_compat v4l2_compat_ioctl32 asus_atk0110
firewire_core crc_itu_t soundcore snd_page_alloc pcspkr atl1 serio_raw
mii hwmon joydev ata_generic pata_acpi radeon drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core
[last unloaded: microcode]
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: Pid: 2479, comm: Xorg Not tainted
2.6.29.3-140.fc11.x86_64 #1 P5E-VM HDMI
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: RIP: 0010:[<ffffffff811bc752>]
[<ffffffff811bc752>] __list_add+0x3f/0x81
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: RSP: 0018:ffff880125105b78  EFLAGS:
00010246
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: RAX: ffff88012d1fa000 RBX:
ffff88012d1fa668 RCX: ffffffff00f7ff5f
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: RDX: ffff88012d1fa668 RSI:
0000000000000000 RDI: ffff88012b55e468
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: RBP: ffff880125105b98 R08:
0000000000000000 R09: 0000000000000000
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: R10: 0000000000fffff0 R11:
ffffffffffffffff R12: 0000000000000000
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: R13: ffff88012b55e468 R14:
ffff88012d1fa000 R15: 0000000000000000
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: FS:  00007fc9927457b0(0000)
GS:ffff88012ea7b200(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: CS:  0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0:
0000000080050033
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: CR2: 0000000000000000 CR3:
000000012500e000 CR4: 00000000000026e0
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: DR0: 0000000000000000 DR1:
0000000000000000 DR2: 0000000000000000
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: DR3: 0000000000000000 DR6:
00000000ffff0ff0 DR7: 0000000000000400
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: Process Xorg (pid: 2479, threadinfo
ffff880125104000, task ffff880128e15c00)
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: Stack:
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: 0000000000000000 ffff88012b55e400
0000000000000000 ffff88012d1fa020
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: ffff880125105ba8 ffffffffa00224dd
ffff880125105bb8 ffffffffa0022517
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: ffff880125105c68 ffffffffa002406d
ffff88012b55e468 000000002d167660
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: Call Trace:
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa00224dd>]
list_add_tail+0x15/0x17 [drm]
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa0022517>]
drm_bo_add_to_lru+0x38/0x48 [drm]
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa002406d>]
drm_bo_do_validate+0x48e/0x4f9 [drm]
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa001ac2e>] ?
drm_mm_split_at_start+0x57/0x71 [drm]
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa0024e98>]
drm_buffer_object_create+0x2e4/0x324 [drm]
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa005dd2a>]
radeon_gem_object_alloc+0xcb/0x110 [radeon]
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa005ddc0>]
radeon_gem_create_ioctl+0x51/0x106 [radeon]
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff810b4530>] ?
handle_mm_fault+0x349/0x7c5
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa005dd6f>] ?
radeon_gem_create_ioctl+0x0/0x106 [radeon]
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa0012b7e>]
drm_ioctl+0x20e/0x2c5 [drm]
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff8105fd6e>] ? up_read+0xe/0x10
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff813ae09b>] ?
do_page_fault+0x5fb/0x9e9
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff810e0e94>] vfs_ioctl+0x6f/0x87
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff810e132f>]
do_vfs_ioctl+0x462/0x4a3
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff810d4c17>] ?
fsnotify_modify+0x64/0x6c
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff813ab4ed>] ?
trace_hardirqs_off_thunk+0x3a/0x6c
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff810e13c6>] sys_ioctl+0x56/0x79
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff8101133a>]
system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: Code: ec 08 4c 8b 42 08 49 39 f0 74 20
49 89 d1 48 89 f1 48 c7 c2 27 02 4f 81 be 1a 00 00 00 48 c7 c7 dc 01 4f
81 31 c0 e8 b1 c1 e8 ff <4d> 8b 04 24 49 39 d8 74 20 4d 89 e1 48 89 d9
48 c7 c2 74 02 4f
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: RIP  [<ffffffff811bc752>]
__list_add+0x3f/0x81
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: RSP <ffff880125105b78>
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: CR2: 0000000000000000
May 13 17:56:15 localhost kernel: ---[ end trace c4d7f17535517d7d ]---


- -- 
Get my public GnuPG key from
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7D0BD5D1
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iEYEARECAAYFAkoLX4gACgkQ6w2kMH0L1dFULACgkmk53rHue4MEh4HPqgpav+Lv
3TMAnirypfOaWJfNWGvOIwoY4xcbqnGD
=Bc2Z
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Thu May 14 00:38:53 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:38:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
Message-ID: <606449.28852.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:

> From: Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: X does not work with ATI based machines
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 4:30 PM
> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 14:24 -0700,
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
> 
> > I logged into level 3 and startx and its
> working.? The other one, however is not.? I see
> the following :
> > 
> > ERROR:? failed in exec of /bin/echo: input/output
> error
> > ERROR:? failed in exec of /bin/sleep:
> input/output error
> > ERROR:? failed in exec of /bin/sleep:?
> input/output error
> > Kernel panic - not syncing:? Attempted to kill
> init!
> > [drm:radeonfb_panic] : ERROR:? panic occurred,
> switching back to text console.? 
> > 
> > I started in level 3 and this is the message that I
> see.? The caps lock and scroll lock lights in the
> keyboard are flashing at me also.? I will try to login
> to level 3 under a previous kernel and see if I can boot and
> report back.
> 
> That's got nothing to do with your graphics card. The
> system's stuffed.
> Likely the RAM or hard disk. But something's dead (or just
> loose).
> 
> BTW, FWIW, I always find the output of plain lspci about as
> useful as a
> chocolate teapot. What I want to know is the PCI ID, and it
> doesn't give
> you that. "lspci -nn" does, though. I don't know if the X
> maintainers
> prefer that output or if they're able to work with just
> plain lspci...
> -- 

One machine now works correctly, but this one does not.  Any kernel I choose bombs out with the same error message :(

Here's smolt profile of that machine in case it is relevant.

http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_808fc0dc-61b4-4f57-a41a-62cdc710058d

According to smolt it is an:

ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 2100 (wiki)
http://www.smolts.org/reports/view_device/Radeon%202100

I just tried to update that machine.  I shut it down and I tried to restart and that is what I get.  It runs windows Ok, so I conclude that some update broke it.  Ram is fine, why?  Windows does not complain.  Disk is fine, why?  Windows does not complain and disk does not screech/scratch/ or output weird sounds.  This is one of the machines that the little annoying program said that one or more hard disks are failing by the way :(, It was working, it worked since late March and before.  Can the disk really be failing? only on the Fedora side and not on the Windows Side?  This would be really sad and I would get feelings to just nuke Fedora and leave the evil empire installed to the whole disk and hope that it truly fails and then I can conclude that the utility was right and apologize to all for doubting "One or more hard disks are failing" :(, but the laws of probability tell me otherwise.  I have a hard drive that scratches/screams/(I can hear sounds
 coming from it) for 3 years and it is still running ?  This is a weird case, till that happens in this disks case, I will conclude that the utility was right, but for now it is wrong and this system is indeed nuked, how sad :(

I tried booting in rescue mode, and chmount /mnt/sysimage and check out things, but I can't make it work :(, I get that /bin/sh is not there or other messages.  Should I just nuke it and try to reinstall/install Fedora 11 Preview on it and update it back to where it was?  Or just drop it in peace, Fedora 11 is very close to becoming a reality.  What are your recommendations, can this system be rescued or is it badly damaged/hosed?  

Thanks,

Antonio  


      



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu May 14 01:16:19 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:16:19 -0700
Subject: Fedora 11 Release Candidate?
In-Reply-To: <4A0B537C.1000501@tmr.com>
References: <1242155937.7796.4.camel@UbuntuHH>
	<1242159028.3452.112.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A0B537C.1000501@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <1242263780.6282.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 19:10 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> 
> If there's something I'm missing, feel free to clarify, I have the pre, the 
> snapshots for 32/64 bit x86, and every rpm up to about 15 minutes ago. I can D/L 
> a whole DVD but I'd be happier to save bandwidth.

Where does your interest lie?  Is it with running the iso media through
our test matrix, or is it in getting the packages and testing the
individual packages?  I ask this because rawhide provides a bootable iso
that can be used to do network installs, which will get you the same
exact packages as what would be in the RCs.  In fact, the RCs are
nothing more than a pungi run against rawhide, something anybody can do.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090513/ea5e813b/attachment.sig>

From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 14 02:58:45 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 02:58:45 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090514025845.8314710F8AA@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    PackageKit-0.3.15-3.fc10
    audacity-1.3.7-0.7.beta.fc10
    backintime-0.9.24-2.fc10
    gitg-0.0.3-1.fc10
    jack_capture-0.9.33-1.fc10
    kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kde-plasma-quickaccess-0.8-1.fc10
    kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-2.fc10
    kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-2.fc10
    kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc10
    kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc10
    kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdepim-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc10
    mingw32-opensc-0.11.8-1.fc10
    perl-Crypt-Twofish-2.13-1.fc10
    perl-Daemon-Generic-0.61-1.fc10
    php-ezc-ConsoleTools-1.5.1-1.fc10
    php-ezc-Database-1.4.5-1.fc10
    php-ezc-Mail-1.6.2-1.fc10
    php-ezc-PersistentObject-1.5.2-1.fc10
    policycoreutils-2.0.57-21.fc10
    zita-convolver-1.0.0-2.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 PackageKit-0.3.15-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4933)
 Package management service
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Apply a patch from upstream to disallow SIGKILL.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.15-3
- Apply a patch from upstream to disallow SIGKILL.
- Fixes #487924
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #487924 - GNOME Packagekit service fails to cancel search
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487924
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 audacity-1.3.7-0.7.beta.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4963)
 Multitrack audio editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 Please notice the long list of changes and known issues in the included
README.txt file and help with testing Audacity on the road to version 1.4.0.
Fedora-specific: Introduces an enhancement to the internal copy of the PortAudio
libraries that allows Audacity to record and playback via PulseAudio. This is
the same enhancement added to Fedora's portaudio library.    To use the new
capability, use the Edit|Preferences|Audio I/O  item, and set:  - Playback
Device=ALSA: pulse  - Recording Device=ALSA: pulse
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.7-0.7.beta
- retag up-to-date files and copy to F-10/F-11
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.7-0.6.beta
- revise default device names patch, so it doesn't save the defaults
* Sun Mar  1 2009 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.7-0.5.beta
- show default device names in Audio I/O preferences
* Sat Feb 28 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 1.3.7-0.4.beta
- remove no longer needed default hostapi hunk of the non-mmap-alsa patch
* Sat Feb 28 2009 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.7-0.3.beta
- F-10/F-9 only: patch to build with older Vamp API 1.3
- upgrade to 1.3.7-beta pkg from test branch in Fedora cvs
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.5-0.13.beta
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Feb  2 2009 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.5-0.12.beta
- buildrequire >= 2.0 of Vamp SDK (because we adjust the include paths
  and to avoid that the unpatched local copy is used if system version
  is too old)
* Fri Jan  2 2009 David Timms <iinet.net.au at dtimms> - 1.3.5-0.11.beta
- add PortAudio non mmap alsa patch (Kevin Kofler) bz 445644
  allows record and playback through pulseaudio
* Wed Dec 17 2008 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.5-0.10.beta
- patch include paths for changes in new vamp-plugin-sdk-devel
* Wed Dec 17 2008 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.5-0.9.beta
- rebuild in Rawhide for new SONAME in vamp-plugin-sdk
- BR wxGTK-devel for rename of wxGTK2-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #445644 - Portaudio does not work with / through pulseaudio
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445644
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 backintime-0.9.24-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4939)
 Simple backup system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

LP #375113 from .22 to .24
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-2
- LP #375113
* Thu May  7 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gitg-0.0.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4932)
 GTK+ graphical interface for the git revision control system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release of gitg for Fedora 10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jack_capture-0.9.33-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4936)
 Record sound files with JACK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Jack_capture is a program for recording sound files with JACK. It's default
operation is to capture whatever sound is going out to your speakers into a
file, but it can do a number of other operations as well.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499323 - Review Request: jack_capture - Record sound files with JACK
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-quickaccess-0.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4937)
 Plasma applet for quick access to the most used folders
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.8.    -Add simple tooltip for the IconWidget  -Use settings from
Dolphin to determine wether or not to show copy/move to items in the context
menu  -Add option to use sorting settings from Dolphin; patch by mck182  -Add
Single vs Double click setting; patch by mck182  -Revamp configuration
interface. Tabs have been done away with and each tab now has its own section
-Stylistic/typo fixes for various strings  -Initially set the icon size to the
configured size to avoid supersmall QuickAccess widgets on the desktop
-Forward-port fix from 0.7.x branch to extract messages from .ui files for .po
template generation  -Add initial translations for: es, fr, gl, pt_BR, sv, and
zh_CN languages. Everything except zh_CN should be fairly well translated.
(zh_CN is only about 33% translated)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> 0.8-1
- update to version 0.8
- BR gettext
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-4
- get rid of the dependency of system-config-printer
- drop the BR on PyKDE4, system-config-printer-libs
  it's just needed for runtime
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- fix #496646, system-config-printer-kde doesn't start
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- toolbar text under icons cut off (kde#186340)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- Requires: oxygen-icon-theme >= 4.2.2
- fix oxygen-cursor-themes noarch'ness
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- include more(all) csharp/qyoto .pc files snarfed from trunk/,
  to match how everyone (except upstream) is shipping (#490555)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.2-5
- F11+: enable csharp on ppc64
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.2-4
- reenable csharp on ppc
* Wed Apr  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-3
- enable csharp only on archs supported by mono (ie, drop ppc)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-3
- kde4.(sh|csh): drop QT_PLUGINS_PATH munging, kde4-config call (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- better fix for strcasestr detection
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-13
- upstream patch to fix GCC4.4 crashes in kjs
  (kdebug:189809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 PIM (Personal Information Manager) applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-4
- drop extraneous BR's, including libmal-devel (not currently used)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-4
- revert -printer-applet dep changes (and drop for f11+)
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- drop the BR on PyKDE4, system-config-printer-libs
  it's just needed for runtime
- fix kdeutils-printer-applet dependency
- apply upstream patch to fix several issues in ark
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-opensc-0.11.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4928)
 MingGW Windows OpenSC library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

CVE-2009-1603    A minor update fixing security problem within pkcs11-tool
command.    http://www.opensc-project.org/pipermail/opensc-
announce/2009-May/000025.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Kalev Lember <kalev at smartlink.ee> - 0.11.8-1
- Update to 0.11.8, fixes a security issue.
- Remove iconv detection patch that was applied upstream.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499862 - opensec: insecure public exponent in opensc 0.11.7
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499862
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Crypt-Twofish-2.13-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4971)
 Twofish Encryption Algorithm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500191 - Review Request: perl-Crypt-Twofish - Twofish Encryption Algorithm
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500191
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Daemon-Generic-0.61-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4935)
 Framework to provide start/stop/reload for a daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499050 - Review Request: perl-Daemon-Generic - Framework to provide start/stop/reload for a daemon
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499050
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-ConsoleTools-1.5.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4953)
 A set of classes to do different actions with the console
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fixed issue #14803: Exclusions and dependencies between options now also work
if no short name is provided for the options.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Database-1.4.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4962)
 A lightweight database layer on top of PHP's PDO
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue #14855 (IN with subselects generates excessive braces).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski <guillaume DOT kulakowski AT fedoraproject DOT org> - 1.4.5-1
- Update to 1.4.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Mail-1.6.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4926)
 Construct and/or parse Mail messages conforming to the mail standard
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue #14776: ezcMailStorageSet generates bad file names.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski <guillaume DOT kulakowski AT fedoraproject DOT org> - 1.6.2-1
- Update to 1.6.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-PersistentObject-1.5.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4944)
 Allows you to store an arbitrary data structures to a fixed database table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fixed issue #14736: ezcPersistentSession->createRelationFindQuery() now
supports relation names.   * Fixed issue #14863:
ezcPersistentSessionInstance::reset() is now static and does work correctly.   *
Fixed issue #14690: Extracted duplicated code into methods and avoided to
instantiate a new generator object for each save/update (based on a patch by
Benjamin Eberlei).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski <guillaume DOT kulakowski AT fedoraproject DOT org> - 1.5.2-1
- Update to 1.5.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 policycoreutils-2.0.57-21.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4922)
 SELinux policy core utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Fix portspage and generation of init_script_file in templates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Miroslav Grepl <mgrepl at redhat.com> 2.0.57-21
- Fix portspage and generation of init_script_file in templates
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.57-20
- Do not print \n, if count < 1000;
- Add /root/.ssh to restorecond.conf
- fixfiles -R package should recursively fix files
- Add btrfs to fixfiles
* Mon Feb 16 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.57-19
- Fix script created by polgengui to not refer to selinux-policy-devel
* Mon Feb  9 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.57-18
- Change initc scripts to use proper labeling on gui
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 zita-convolver-1.0.0-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4959)
 Convolution engine library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

zita-convolver is a fast, partitioned convolution engine library.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499300 - Review Request: zita-convolver - Convolution engine library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499300
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 14 02:58:45 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 02:58:45 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090514025845.21C1610F8A9@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    jack_capture-0.9.33-1.fc9
    kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kde-plasma-quickaccess-0.8-1.fc9
    kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-2.fc9
    kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-2.fc9
    kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc9
    kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc9
    kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc9
    perl-Daemon-Generic-0.61-1.fc9
    php-ezc-ConsoleTools-1.5.1-1.fc9
    php-ezc-Database-1.4.5-1.fc9
    php-ezc-Mail-1.6.2-1.fc9
    php-ezc-PersistentObject-1.5.2-1.fc9
    zita-convolver-1.0.0-2.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 jack_capture-0.9.33-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4942)
 Record sound files with JACK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Jack_capture is a program for recording sound files with JACK. It's default
operation is to capture whatever sound is going out to your speakers into a
file, but it can do a number of other operations as well.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499323 - Review Request: jack_capture - Record sound files with JACK
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-quickaccess-0.8-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4943)
 Plasma applet for quick access to the most used folders
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.8.    -Add simple tooltip for the IconWidget  -Use settings from
Dolphin to determine wether or not to show copy/move to items in the context
menu  -Add option to use sorting settings from Dolphin; patch by mck182  -Add
Single vs Double click setting; patch by mck182  -Revamp configuration
interface. Tabs have been done away with and each tab now has its own section
-Stylistic/typo fixes for various strings  -Initially set the icon size to the
configured size to avoid supersmall QuickAccess widgets on the desktop
-Forward-port fix from 0.7.x branch to extract messages from .ui files for .po
template generation  -Add initial translations for: es, fr, gl, pt_BR, sv, and
zh_CN languages. Everything except zh_CN should be fairly well translated.
(zh_CN is only about 33% translated)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> 0.8-1
- update to version 0.8
- BR gettext
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-4
- get rid of the dependency of system-config-printer
- drop the BR on PyKDE4, system-config-printer-libs
  it's just needed for runtime
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- fix #496646, system-config-printer-kde doesn't start
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- toolbar text under icons cut off (kde#186340)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- Requires: oxygen-icon-theme >= 4.2.2
- fix oxygen-cursor-themes noarch'ness
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- include more(all) csharp/qyoto .pc files snarfed from trunk/,
  to match how everyone (except upstream) is shipping (#490555)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.2-5
- F11+: enable csharp on ppc64
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.2-4
- reenable csharp on ppc
* Wed Apr  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-3
- enable csharp only on archs supported by mono (ie, drop ppc)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-3
- kde4.(sh|csh): drop QT_PLUGINS_PATH munging, kde4-config call (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- better fix for strcasestr detection
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-13
- upstream patch to fix GCC4.4 crashes in kjs
  (kdebug:189809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-4
- revert -printer-applet dep changes (and drop for f11+)
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- drop the BR on PyKDE4, system-config-printer-libs
  it's just needed for runtime
- fix kdeutils-printer-applet dependency
- apply upstream patch to fix several issues in ark
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Daemon-Generic-0.61-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4961)
 Framework to provide start/stop/reload for a daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-ConsoleTools-1.5.1-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4927)
 A set of classes to do different actions with the console
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fixed issue #14803: Exclusions and dependencies between options now also work
if no short name is provided for the options.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Database-1.4.5-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4970)
 A lightweight database layer on top of PHP's PDO
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue #14855 (IN with subselects generates excessive braces).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski <guillaume DOT kulakowski AT fedoraproject DOT org> - 1.4.5-1
- Update to 1.4.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Mail-1.6.2-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4941)
 Construct and/or parse Mail messages conforming to the mail standard
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue #14776: ezcMailStorageSet generates bad file names.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski <guillaume DOT kulakowski AT fedoraproject DOT org> - 1.6.2-1
- Update to 1.6.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-PersistentObject-1.5.2-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4951)
 Allows you to store an arbitrary data structures to a fixed database table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fixed issue #14736: ezcPersistentSession->createRelationFindQuery() now
supports relation names.   * Fixed issue #14863:
ezcPersistentSessionInstance::reset() is now static and does work correctly.   *
Fixed issue #14690: Extracted duplicated code into methods and avoided to
instantiate a new generator object for each save/update (based on a patch by
Benjamin Eberlei).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski <guillaume DOT kulakowski AT fedoraproject DOT org> - 1.5.2-1
- Update to 1.5.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 zita-convolver-1.0.0-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4964)
 Convolution engine library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

zita-convolver is a fast, partitioned convolution engine library.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499300 - Review Request: zita-convolver - Convolution engine library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499300
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 14 02:58:45 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 02:58:45 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090514025845.7CBEF10F8AC@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    ORBit-0.5.17-26.fc11
    audacity-1.3.7-0.7.beta.fc11
    backintime-0.9.24-2.fc11
    dkms-2.0.21.1-2.fc11
    gitg-0.0.3-1.fc11
    glib-1.2.10-32.fc11
    gnome-libs-1.4.2-14.fc11
    gtk+-1.2.10-68.fc11
    highlight-2.9-1.fc11
    imlib-1.9.15-11.fc11
    jack_capture-0.9.33-1.fc11
    kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kde-plasma-quickaccess-0.8-1.fc11
    kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-2.fc11
    kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-2.fc11
    kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc11
    kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc11
    kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdepim-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc11
    libglade-0.17-23.fc11
    libxml-1.8.17-22.fc11
    mingw32-opensc-0.11.8-1.fc11
    perl-Crypt-Twofish-2.13-1.fc11
    php-ezc-ConsoleTools-1.5.1-1.fc11
    php-ezc-Database-1.4.5-1.fc11
    php-ezc-Mail-1.6.2-1.fc11
    php-ezc-PersistentObject-1.5.2-1.fc11
    policycoreutils-2.0.62-12.4.fc11
    qemu-0.10.4-3.fc11
    wpa_supplicant-0.6.8-2.fc11
    zita-convolver-1.0.0-2.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 ORBit-0.5.17-26.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4957)
 CORBA Object Request Broker for GNOME-1 compatibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.    For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr  9 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:0.5.17-26
- Fix undefined non-weak symbols in libORBit and libORBitCosNaming
- Use an alternative approach to rpath-fixing - hacking the supplied libtool
  rather than trying to use the system one
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 audacity-1.3.7-0.7.beta.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4958)
 Multitrack audio editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update applies the most recent patch that makes Audacity's internal copy of
the PortAudio library compatible with PulseAudio.    Please notice the long list
of changes and known issues in the included README.txt file and help with
testing Audacity on the road to version 1.4.0.    Fedora-specific: Introduces an
enhancement to the internal copy of the PortAudio libraries that allows Audacity
to record and playback via PulseAudio. This is the same enhancement added to
Fedora's portaudio library.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.7-0.7.beta
- retag up-to-date files and copy to F-10/F-11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 backintime-0.9.24-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4925)
 Simple backup system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

LP #375113 from .22 to .24
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-2
- LP #375113
* Thu May  7 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dkms-2.0.21.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4960)
 Dynamic Kernel Module Support Framework
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Removes call to udevadm trigger, which fixes udev resetting permissions on
device nodes.  Uses /etc/modprobe.d/dkms.conf per module-init-tools expectations
for naming of conf files there. Add Requires: lsb to avoid potential problems
with RPM recursion.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 15 2009 Matt Domsch <Matt_Domsch at dell.com> - 2.0.21.1-2
- add Requires: lsb
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Matt Domsch <Matt_Domsch at dell.com> 2.0.21.1-1
- update to latest upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #454407 - running udevtrigger in X causes strange X behavior
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454407
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gitg-0.0.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4948)
 GTK+ graphical interface for the git revision control system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release of gitg for Fedora 11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 glib-1.2.10-32.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4957)
 A library of handy utility functions
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.    For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 17 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:1.2.10-32
- remove redundant linkage of libgmodule to libgthread
- cosmetic spec changes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnome-libs-1.4.2-14.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4957)
 The main GNOME1 libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.    For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr  9 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:1.4.2-14
- Use an alternative approach to rpath-fixing - hacking the supplied libtool
  rather than trying to use the system one
- Additional %{?_isa} devel package dependencies now available
- Clean up library linkage, linking libraries with the libs they need and only
  those libs
- Fix config.guess and config.sub to support build on ppc64
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gtk+-1.2.10-68.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4957)
 The GIMP ToolKit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.    For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 17 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:1.2.10-68
- remove unused shared library dependencies
- use install -p to maintain timestamps where reasonable
- recode docs as UTF-8
- cosmetic spec changes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 highlight-2.9-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4938)
 Universal source code to formatted text converter
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Added more customized boxes for the LaTeX --pretty-symbols switch    (thanks
to Romain Francois)  + GUI: reduced window height (thanks to Fidel Barrera)  +
GUI: added Spanish translation (thanks to Fidel Barrera)  + GUI: added drag and
drop for input files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 2.9-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 imlib-1.9.15-11.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4957)
 An image loading and rendering library for X11R6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.    For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr  1 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:1.9.15-11
- add libXt-devel dependency for -devel package (#478357)
- use install -p to maintain timestamps where reasonable
- use an alternative approach to rpath-fixing - hacking the supplied libtool
  rather than trying to use the system one
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jack_capture-0.9.33-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4969)
 Record sound files with JACK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Jack_capture is a program for recording sound files with JACK. It's default
operation is to capture whatever sound is going out to your speakers into a
file, but it can do a number of other operations as well.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499323 - Review Request: jack_capture - Record sound files with JACK
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-quickaccess-0.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4924)
 Plasma applet for quick access to the most used folders
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.8.    -Add simple tooltip for the IconWidget  -Use settings from
Dolphin to determine wether or not to show copy/move to items in the context
menu  -Add option to use sorting settings from Dolphin; patch by mck182  -Add
Single vs Double click setting; patch by mck182  -Revamp configuration
interface. Tabs have been done away with and each tab now has its own section
-Stylistic/typo fixes for various strings  -Initially set the icon size to the
configured size to avoid supersmall QuickAccess widgets on the desktop
-Forward-port fix from 0.7.x branch to extract messages from .ui files for .po
template generation  -Add initial translations for: es, fr, gl, pt_BR, sv, and
zh_CN languages. Everything except zh_CN should be fairly well translated.
(zh_CN is only about 33% translated)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> 0.8-1
- update to version 0.8
- BR gettext
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- #496447 -  fix disabling konsole's flow control
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- toolbar text under icons cut off (kde#186340)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- Requires: oxygen-icon-theme >= 4.2.2
- fix oxygen-cursor-themes noarch'ness
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- include more(all) csharp/qyoto .pc files snarfed from trunk/,
  to match how everyone (except upstream) is shipping (#490555)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-3
- kde4.(sh|csh): drop QT_PLUGINS_PATH munging, kde4-config call (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- better fix for strcasestr detection
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-13
- upstream patch to fix GCC4.4 crashes in kjs
  (kdebug:189809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 PIM (Personal Information Manager) applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-4
- drop extraneous BR's, including libmal-devel (not currently used)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libglade-0.17-23.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4957)
 Gnome-1 support library for loading user interfaces
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.    For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 20 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:0.17-23
- use an alternative approach to rpath-fixing - hacking the supplied libtool
  rather than trying to use the system one
- specify Instruction Set Architecture (%{?_isa}) in devel package requires
- link against the libs that are needed, and only those libs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libxml-1.8.17-22.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4957)
 Old XML library for Gnome-1 application compatibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a cumulative bugfix and clean-up update for the legacy Gnome-1
libraries.    For end users, library linkage is improved (libraries are linked
against the libraries they need and only those libraries), resulting in less
bloat and less work for the run-time linker to do when applications using these
libraries are used. Documentation is all now encoded as UTF-8.    For
developers, inter-package dependencies are fixed to pull in all of the necessary
requirements, and ensure that these still work in a multilib environment with
some 32- and 64-bit development packages present. Fedora packagers can safely
assume that %{_isa} provides are available for all libraries in the stack, in
all releases where %{_isa} is defined.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 20 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 1:1.8.17-22
- rebuild for %{_isa} provides/requires
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478357 - imlib-config --libs specifies more than enough libraries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478357
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-opensc-0.11.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4967)
 MingGW Windows OpenSC library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

CVE-2009-1603    A minor update fixing security problem within pkcs11-tool
command.    http://www.opensc-project.org/pipermail/opensc-
announce/2009-May/000025.html    OpenSC is a package for for accessing smart
card devices.  Basic  functionality (e.g. SELECT FILE, READ BINARY) should work
on any ISO  7816-4 compatible smart card.  Encryption and decryption using
private  keys on the smart card is possible with PKCS #15 compatible cards,
such as the FINEID (Finnish Electronic IDentity) card.  Swedish Posten  eID
cards have also been confirmed to work.    This is the MinGW cross-compiled
Windows library.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Kalev Lember <kalev at smartlink.ee> - 0.11.8-1
- Update to 0.11.8, fixes a security issue.
- Remove iconv detection patch that was applied upstream.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499862 - opensec: insecure public exponent in opensc 0.11.7
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499862
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Crypt-Twofish-2.13-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4966)
 Twofish Encryption Algorithm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500191 - Review Request: perl-Crypt-Twofish - Twofish Encryption Algorithm
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500191
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-ConsoleTools-1.5.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4965)
 A set of classes to do different actions with the console
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fixed issue #14803: Exclusions and dependencies between options now also work
if no short name is provided for the options.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Database-1.4.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4955)
 A lightweight database layer on top of PHP's PDO
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue #14855 (IN with subselects generates excessive braces).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski <guillaume DOT kulakowski AT fedoraproject DOT org> - 1.4.5-1
- Update to 1.4.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Mail-1.6.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4950)
 Construct and/or parse Mail messages conforming to the mail standard
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue #14776: ezcMailStorageSet generates bad file names.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski <guillaume DOT kulakowski AT fedoraproject DOT org> - 1.6.2-1
- Update to 1.6.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-PersistentObject-1.5.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4931)
 Allows you to store an arbitrary data structures to a fixed database table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fixed issue #14736: ezcPersistentSession->createRelationFindQuery() now
supports relation names.   * Fixed issue #14863:
ezcPersistentSessionInstance::reset() is now static and does work correctly.   *
Fixed issue #14690: Extracted duplicated code into methods and avoided to
instantiate a new generator object for each save/update (based on a patch by
Benjamin Eberlei).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski <guillaume DOT kulakowski AT fedoraproject DOT org> - 1.5.2-1
- Update to 1.5.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 policycoreutils-2.0.62-12.4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4945)
 SELinux policy core utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.62-12.4
- Fix portspage and generation of init_script_file in templates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qemu-0.10.4-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4954)
 QEMU is a FAST! processor emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

  This package updates qemu to the first official stable release of qemu-kvm,
version 0.10.4.    Along with fixing the bugs listed, this update also:    -
Fixes an oops with some 2.6.25 virtio guest, see bug #470386  - Enables the
pulseaudio driver for testing, see bug #495964 and bug #496627  - Fixes cpuid
initialization  - Fixes HPET emulation  - Fixes storage hotplug error handling
- Fixes some migration problems  - Fixes some issues with block range checking
- Makes PCI config status register read-only  - Handles newer Xorg keymap names
- Avoids leak memory on NIC hot-unplug  - Hooks up keypad keys for qemu console
emulation  - Correctly runs on kernels lacking mmu notifiers  - Supports DDIM
option ROMs  - Fixes PCI NIC error handling  - Fixes in-kernel LAPIC
initialization  - Fixes broken e1000 PCI config space
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 2:0.10.4-3
- Fix mixup between kvm.modules and the init script (reported by Rich Jones)
* Wed May 13 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 2:0.10.4-2
- Fix -kernel bustage in upstream 0.10.4
* Tue May 12 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 2:0.10.4-1
- Update to 0.10.4
- Fix yet more qcow2 corruption (#498405)
- AIO cancellation fixes (#497170)
- Fix VPC image size overflow (#491981)
- Fix oops with 2.6.25 virtio guest (#470386)
- Enable pulseaudio driver (#495964, #496627)
- Fix cpuid initialization
- Fix HPET emulation
- Fix storage hotplug error handling
- Migration fixes
- Block range checking fixes
- Make PCI config status register read-only
- Handle newer Xorg keymap names
- Don't leak memory on NIC hot-unplug
- Hook up keypad keys for qemu console emulation
- Correctly run on kernels lacking mmu notifiers
- Support DDIM option ROMs
- Fix PCI NIC error handling
- Fix in-kernel LAPIC initialization
- Fix broken e1000 PCI config space
- Drop some patches which have been upstreamed
- Drop the make-release script; we have an official tarball now
* Tue May 12 2009 Glauber Costa <glommer at redhat.com> - 2:0.10-18
- move option rom setup function to the beginning of the file. This
  avoids static vs non-static issues, and is the way upstream does
* Tue May 12 2009 Glauber Costa <glommer at redhat.com> - 2:0.10-17
- fix reboot with -kernel parameter (#499666)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499666 - Reboot fails when using qemu -kernel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499666
  [ 2 ] Bug #498405 - qemu disk image corruption with qcow2/virtio
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498405
  [ 3 ] Bug #497170 - qemu segfaults with "raw_aio_remove: aio request not found!"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497170
  [ 4 ] Bug #491981 - Integer wraparound creating a large disk image in VPC  format
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491981
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wpa_supplicant-0.6.8-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4921)
 WPA/WPA2/IEEE 802.1X Supplicant
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> - 1:0.6.8-2
- Avoid creating bogus Ad-Hoc networks when forcing the driver to disconnect (rh #497771)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497771 - NetworkManager is creating automatic ad-hoc networks
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497771
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 zita-convolver-1.0.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4972)
 Convolution engine library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

zita-convolver is a fast, partitioned convolution engine library.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499300 - Review Request: zita-convolver - Convolution engine library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499300
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net  Thu May 14 03:27:23 2009
From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 06:27:23 +0300
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <20090513025512.GC3897@wolff.to>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<20090513025512.GC3897@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <20090514032723.GA21548@victor.nirvana>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 09:55:12PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 09:28:06 -0500,
>   Bob Gustafson <bobgus at rcn.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I imagine that when F11 goes golden, and if it does include the 1.6.1
> > version of Asterisk, it will include all of the necessary packages, or
> > will 'depend' on them.
> > 
> > My guess is that so much time is being spent on sorting out other Fedora
> > problems, Asterisk will be whipped into shape at the last moment,
> > perhaps with a regress to an earlier version.
> 
> Not to mention if you happen to have Digium hardware, the ATRPMs guys
> haven't been building zaptel or (whatever the new trademark avoiding name is)
> kmods yet (as of a couple of days ago) and you can't use it with F11.
> (I am not buying another piece of Digium hardware until they upstream their
> kernel driver or someone else forks and upstreams it.)

The kmdls for dahdi do not build on kernels 2.6.29, I guess there will
be a new upstream version when F11 is released.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090514/56384d0c/attachment.sig>

From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Thu May 14 04:28:09 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:28:09 +1000
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <20090513164348.GB12315@bombadil.infradead.org>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242225612.21675.83.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<d58417910905130912y6e51c4e1mc5527023aa53243f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090513164348.GB12315@bombadil.infradead.org>
Message-ID: <d58417910905132128s58352819i865486f16d9512f2@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Kyle McMartin <kyle at mcmartin.ca> wrote:

>
> Can you just attach the entire Xorg.0.log? You've snipped off the EDID
> data from it...
>
>
Please see the attachment for a complete log though I couldn't find much
about DVI1 interface other than the what I'd posted earlier.

Regards,
Masood
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090514/1506255c/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: Xorg.0.log
Type: application/octet-stream
Size: 57655 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090514/1506255c/attachment.obj>

From bruno at wolff.to  Thu May 14 05:36:12 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:36:12 -0500
Subject: newbie guide to asterisk on f11?
In-Reply-To: <20090514032723.GA21548@victor.nirvana>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905111637490.3189@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242108324.26391.85.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905120446250.17712@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242138486.26391.96.camel@hoho4.chidig.com>
	<20090513025512.GC3897@wolff.to>
	<20090514032723.GA21548@victor.nirvana>
Message-ID: <20090514053611.GA21431@wolff.to>

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 06:27:23 +0300,
  Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net> wrote:
> 
> The kmdls for dahdi do not build on kernels 2.6.29, I guess there will
> be a new upstream version when F11 is released.

I had run across some discussions on what the right way to adjust for
a data structure change in 2.6.29. I was guessing that things might be
partly due to that and partly trying to track rawhide kernels.

It's likely to be an issue for F10 as well. They have been testing 2.6.29
kernels there for a while and at some point I expect one with be pushed to
updates.



From pmatilai at laiskiainen.org  Thu May 14 06:51:12 2009
From: pmatilai at laiskiainen.org (Panu Matilainen)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:51:12 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <1242243299.21675.163.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
	<1242237145.6282.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131402550.7487@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242238099.6282.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242243299.21675.163.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905140943020.21402@gotcha.dreamhost.com>

On Wed, 13 May 2009, Adam Jackson wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 11:08 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 14:03 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with  this except then we have to put rpmq-crontab in a separate
>>> pkg which would need to be added to comps base, I think.
>>
>> Or we question the usefulness of the cron job itself and potentially
>> scrub it all together.
>
> IAWTP.

Tell that to the people whose rpmdb got destroyed somehow (I remember 
doing an accidental 'rm -f /var/lib/rpm/*' myself a few years ago...) and 
managed to resurrect the system by using the data in /var/log/rpmpkgs :)

The data created by the cronjob is certainly useful, but I agree having 
rpm *require* cronjob and logrotate is silly (see #248629). I'll split the 
cron bits into a separate subpackage, no big deal.

 	- Panu -



From aaron.lwe at gmail.com  Thu May 14 08:44:58 2009
From: aaron.lwe at gmail.com (aaron lwe)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:44:58 +0800
Subject: tigervnc gnome theme problem
Message-ID: <ff277c2e0905140144x795cdc12o882f7d15c4af864a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I've got a problem while using vnc to view a fedora 11 hosted gnome
desktop, the gnome theme isn't what I chose but nodoka. If I open the
appearance dialogbox from system->preference, the gnome theme
instantly changed to what I selected no matter which tab of this
dialogbox activated. And when I close the dialogbox, the theme changed
back to nodoka. If I did this a second time, a crash about
notification-daemon will happen. I've attached the crash report. There
is no problem while loging on locally.

The vnc server runs on fedora 11 with
tigervnc-server-0.0.90-0.7.20090427svn3789.fc11.i586, kernel
2.6.29.3-140.fc11.i586. The vnc client runs on fedora 10 with vnc
vnc-4.1.3-1.fc10.i386.

Anyone has the same problem?
-------------- next part --------------
System: Linux 2.6.29.3-140.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue May 12 10:30:21 EDT 2009 i686
X Vendor: The X.Org Foundation
X Vendor Release: 10601000
Selinux: No
Accessibility: Disabled
GTK+ Theme: ClearlooksClassic
Icon Theme: Mist
GTK+ Modules: canberra-gtk-module, pk-gtk-module, gnomebreakpad

Memory status: size: 0 vsize: 0 resident: 0 share: 0 rss: 0 rss_rlim: 0
CPU usage: start_time: 0 rtime: 0 utime: 0 stime: 0 cutime:0 cstime: 0 timeout: 0 it_real_value: 0 frequency: 0



---- Critical and fatal warnings logged during execution ----

** GLib-GObject **: g_object_new: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_OBJECT (object_type)' failed 


----------- .xsession-errors (23313 sec old) ---------------------
--> file:///home/korn/Desktop
(nautilus:1391): Eel-WARNING **: "nautilus-metafile.c: metafiles" hash table still has 2 elements at quit time (keys above)
(nautilus:1391): Eel-WARNING **: "nautilus-directory.c: directories" hash table still has 2 elements at quit time
gnome-settings-daemon: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
applet.py: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
gnome-volume-control-applet: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
nm-applet: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
seapplet: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
gdu-notification-daemon: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
gpk-update-icon: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
The application 'kerneloops-applet' lost its connection to the display :0.0;
most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed
the application.
--------------------------------------------------
MDRawHeader
  signature            = 0x504d444d
  version              = 0xa793
  stream_count         = 6
  stream_directory_rva = 0x20
  checksum             = 0x0
  time_date_stamp      = 0x4a0bd77c 2009-05-14 08:34:04
  flags                = 0x0

mDirectory[0]
MDRawDirectory
  stream_type        = 3
  location.data_size = 52
  location.rva       = 0x68

mDirectory[1]
MDRawDirectory
  stream_type        = 4
  location.data_size = 16312
  location.rva       = 0x1b58

mDirectory[2]
MDRawDirectory
  stream_type        = 7
  location.data_size = 56
  location.rva       = 0x9d10

mDirectory[3]
MDRawDirectory
  stream_type        = 15
  location.data_size = 44
  location.rva       = 0x9df0

mDirectory[4]
MDRawDirectory
  stream_type        = 1197932545
  location.data_size = 12
  location.rva       = 0x9e20

mDirectory[5]
MDRawDirectory
  stream_type        = 0
  location.data_size = 0
  location.rva       = 0x0

Streams:
  stream type 0x0 at index 5
  stream type 0x3 at index 0
  stream type 0x4 at index 1
  stream type 0x7 at index 2
  stream type 0xf at index 3
  stream type 0x47670001 at index 4

MinidumpThreadList
  thread_count = 1

thread[0]
MDRawThread
  thread_id                   = 0x8a5
  suspend_count               = 0
  priority_class              = 0x0
  priority                    = 0x0
  teb                         = 0x0
  stack.start_of_memory_range = 0xbf9456c0
  stack.memory.data_size      = 0x17e8
  stack.memory.rva            = 0xa0
  thread_context.data_size    = 0x2cc
  thread_context.rva          = 0x1888

MDRawContextX86
  context_flags                = 0x1001f
  dr0                          = 0x0
  dr1                          = 0x0
  dr2                          = 0x0
  dr3                          = 0x0
  dr6                          = 0x0
  dr7                          = 0x0
  float_save.control_word      = 0x800700
  float_save.status_word       = 0xb7d2cfe4
  float_save.tag_word          = 0xfeb381
  float_save.error_offset      = 0xffffffff
  float_save.error_selector    = 0xf76fc4
  float_save.data_offset       = 0xbf945748
  float_save.data_selector     = 0xc63
  float_save.register_area[80] = 0x7b0000007b000000000000003300000078000000186805017300000096020000c05694bf7b00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
  float_save.cr0_npx_state     = 0x0
  gs                           = 0x33
  fs                           = 0x0
  es                           = 0x7b
  ds                           = 0x7b
  edi                          = 0xf76fc4
  esi                          = 0xffffffff
  ebx                          = 0x800700
  edx                          = 0xfeb381
  ecx                          = 0xb7d2cfe4
  eax                          = 0xc63
  ebp                          = 0xbf945748
  eip                          = 0x1056818
  cs                           = 0x73
  eflags                       = 0x296
  esp                          = 0xbf9456c0
  ss                           = 0x7b
  extended_registers[512]      = 0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Stack
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

MinidumpModuleList
  module_count = 151

module[0]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x110000
  size_of_image                   = 0x34000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x5b10
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x5b50
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libgconf-2.so.4.1.5"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 3b71f92d-d3ca-3e99-f4a9-507fe7c54e52
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgconf-2.so.4.1.5"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgconf-2.so.4.1.5"
  (debug_identifier)              = "3B71F92DD3CA3E99F4A9507FE7C54E520"
  (version)                       = ""

module[1]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x144000
  size_of_image                   = 0x3000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x5b80
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x5bc0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libgconf-2.so.4.1.5"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 3b71f92d-d3ca-3e99-f4a9-507fe7c54e52
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgconf-2.so.4.1.5"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgconf-2.so.4.1.5"
  (debug_identifier)              = "3B71F92DD3CA3E99F4A9507FE7C54E520"
  (version)                       = ""

module[2]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x147000
  size_of_image                   = 0x3a000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x5bf0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 45
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x5c30
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libwnck-1.so.22.3.19"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 17a0b644-5f2b-92ca-fd5a-827cff9905a8
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libwnck-1.so.22.3.19"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libwnck-1.so.22.3.19"
  (debug_identifier)              = "17A0B6445F2B92CAFD5A827CFF9905A80"
  (version)                       = ""

module[3]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x181000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x5c60
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 45
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x5ca0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libwnck-1.so.22.3.19"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 17a0b644-5f2b-92ca-fd5a-827cff9905a8
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libwnck-1.so.22.3.19"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libwnck-1.so.22.3.19"
  (debug_identifier)              = "17A0B6445F2B92CAFD5A827CFF9905A80"
  (version)                       = ""

module[4]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x183000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1b000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x5cd0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x5d18
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0.2511.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 78d61467-3253-7aa1-5972-89d3801b8550
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libatk-1.0.so.0.2511.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libatk-1.0.so.0.2511.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "78D6146732537AA1597289D3801B85500"
  (version)                       = ""

module[5]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x19e000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x5d48
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x5d90
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0.2511.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 78d61467-3253-7aa1-5972-89d3801b8550
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libatk-1.0.so.0.2511.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libatk-1.0.so.0.2511.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "78D6146732537AA1597289D3801B85500"
  (version)                       = ""

module[6]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x1a0000
  size_of_image                   = 0x29000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x5dc0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 52
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x5e10
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8f0b54c5-7164-1dd6-11ec-81e6f45e00f1
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8F0B54C571641DD611EC81E6F45E00F10"
  (version)                       = ""

module[7]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x1c9000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x5e48
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 52
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x5e98
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8f0b54c5-7164-1dd6-11ec-81e6f45e00f1
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8F0B54C571641DD611EC81E6F45E00F10"
  (version)                       = ""

module[8]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x1ca000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1c000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x5ed0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 54
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x5f28
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 234ced10-93a7-28b8-0919-331e947488ac
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "234CED1093A728B80919331E947488AC0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[9]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x1e6000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x5f60
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 54
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x5fb8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 234ced10-93a7-28b8-0919-331e947488ac
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "234CED1093A728B80919331E947488AC0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[10]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x1e7000
  size_of_image                   = 0x4000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x5ff0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6020
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libcap.so.2.16"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = c3a83691-4af6-468d-dbe0-7a4c3d1f485a
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libcap.so.2.16"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libcap.so.2.16"
  (debug_identifier)              = "C3A836914AF6468DDBE07A4C3D1F485A0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[11]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x1eb000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6048
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6078
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libcap.so.2.16"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = c3a83691-4af6-468d-dbe0-7a4c3d1f485a
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libcap.so.2.16"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libcap.so.2.16"
  (debug_identifier)              = "C3A836914AF6468DDBE07A4C3D1F485A0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[12]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x1ec000
  size_of_image                   = 0x3f000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x60a0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 43
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x60d8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libdbus-1.so.3.4.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 32f6dd6d-2d08-a8b2-08ea-8fd70baaf155
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libdbus-1.so.3.4.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libdbus-1.so.3.4.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "32F6DD6D2D08A8B208EA8FD70BAAF1550"
  (version)                       = ""

module[13]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x22b000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6108
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 43
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6140
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libdbus-1.so.3.4.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 32f6dd6d-2d08-a8b2-08ea-8fd70baaf155
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libdbus-1.so.3.4.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libdbus-1.so.3.4.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "32F6DD6D2D08A8B208EA8FD70BAAF1550"
  (version)                       = ""

module[14]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x22c000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6170
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 43
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x61a8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libdbus-1.so.3.4.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 32f6dd6d-2d08-a8b2-08ea-8fd70baaf155
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libdbus-1.so.3.4.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libdbus-1.so.3.4.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "32F6DD6D2D08A8B208EA8FD70BAAF1550"
  (version)                       = ""

module[15]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x22d000
  size_of_image                   = 0x13b000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x61d8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6210
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.7.3"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = c072774e-3f89-05d9-e80b-dde1dacff6b1
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libxml2.so.2.7.3"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libxml2.so.2.7.3"
  (debug_identifier)              = "C072774E3F8905D9E80BDDE1DACFF6B10"
  (version)                       = ""

module[16]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x368000
  size_of_image                   = 0x5000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6240
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6278
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.7.3"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = c072774e-3f89-05d9-e80b-dde1dacff6b1
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libxml2.so.2.7.3"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libxml2.so.2.7.3"
  (debug_identifier)              = "C072774E3F8905D9E80BDDE1DACFF6B10"
  (version)                       = ""

module[17]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x36e000
  size_of_image                   = 0x94000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x62a8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 51
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x62f8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = bce9c18a-3ee5-b12a-cc7c-2bad886e9ae4
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "BCE9C18A3EE5B12ACC7C2BAD886E9AE40"
  (version)                       = ""

module[18]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x402000
  size_of_image                   = 0x3000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6330
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 51
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6380
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = bce9c18a-3ee5-b12a-cc7c-2bad886e9ae4
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "BCE9C18A3EE5B12ACC7C2BAD886E9AE40"
  (version)                       = ""

module[19]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x405000
  size_of_image                   = 0x77000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x63b8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x63f8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libgio-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 42d4c7cb-aa40-b0e4-4d53-af04bdfa551d
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgio-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgio-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "42D4C7CBAA40B0E44D53AF04BDFA551D0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[20]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x47c000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6428
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6468
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libgio-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 42d4c7cb-aa40-b0e4-4d53-af04bdfa551d
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgio-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgio-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "42D4C7CBAA40B0E44D53AF04BDFA551D0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[21]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x47e000
  size_of_image                   = 0xa000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6498
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 54
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x64f0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 0af8b7a5-0846-85a8-077e-046f2a4431f0
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "0AF8B7A5084685A8077E046F2A4431F00"
  (version)                       = ""

module[22]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x488000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6528
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 54
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6580
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 0af8b7a5-0846-85a8-077e-046f2a4431f0
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "0AF8B7A5084685A8077E046F2A4431F00"
  (version)                       = ""

module[23]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x489000
  size_of_image                   = 0x79000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x65b8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 46
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6600
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.10800.6"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 651f7560-09fd-7988-a659-6807c24fbce4
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libcairo.so.2.10800.6"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libcairo.so.2.10800.6"
  (debug_identifier)              = "651F756009FD7988A6596807C24FBCE40"
  (version)                       = ""

module[24]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x502000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6630
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 46
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6678
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.10800.6"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 651f7560-09fd-7988-a659-6807c24fbce4
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libcairo.so.2.10800.6"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libcairo.so.2.10800.6"
  (debug_identifier)              = "651F756009FD7988A6596807C24FBCE40"
  (version)                       = ""

module[25]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x504000
  size_of_image                   = 0x44000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x66a8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 49
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x66f0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 27633802-527b-d6e8-bd01-34a996f6dbbe
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpango-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpango-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "27633802527BD6E8BD0134A996F6DBBE0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[26]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x548000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6728
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 49
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6770
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 27633802-527b-d6e8-bd01-34a996f6dbbe
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpango-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpango-1.0.so.0.2400.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "27633802527BD6E8BD0134A996F6DBBE0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[27]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x54a000
  size_of_image                   = 0x3000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x67a8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x67d8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libdl-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = cdbbe624-cc51-d3eb-e290-d25771c012fe
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libdl-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libdl-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "CDBBE624CC51D3EBE290D25771C012FE0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[28]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x54d000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6800
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6830
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libdl-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = cdbbe624-cc51-d3eb-e290-d25771c012fe
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libdl-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libdl-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "CDBBE624CC51D3EBE290D25771C012FE0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[29]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x54e000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6858
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6888
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libdl-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = cdbbe624-cc51-d3eb-e290-d25771c012fe
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libdl-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libdl-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "CDBBE624CC51D3EBE290D25771C012FE0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[30]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x54f000
  size_of_image                   = 0x8000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x68b0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 59
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6910
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libstartup-notification-1.so.0.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = a7647149-5edf-cc17-3f8f-b22237e8003c
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libstartup-notification-1.so.0.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libstartup-notification-1.so.0.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "A76471495EDFCC173F8FB22237E8003C0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[31]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x557000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6950
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 59
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x69b0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libstartup-notification-1.so.0.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = a7647149-5edf-cc17-3f8f-b22237e8003c
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libstartup-notification-1.so.0.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libstartup-notification-1.so.0.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "A76471495EDFCC173F8FB22237E8003C0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[32]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x558000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x69f0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6a28
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXRes.so.1.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 9c67db0c-146e-f8e1-675b-a2988ef1c1b2
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXRes.so.1.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXRes.so.1.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "9C67DB0C146EF8E1675BA2988EF1C1B20"
  (version)                       = ""

module[33]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x55a000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6a58
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6a90
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXRes.so.1.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 9c67db0c-146e-f8e1-675b-a2988ef1c1b2
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXRes.so.1.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXRes.so.1.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "9C67DB0C146EF8E1675BA2988EF1C1B20"
  (version)                       = ""

module[34]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x55b000
  size_of_image                   = 0x4000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6ac0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 43
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6b00
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3.1.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = d6935910-554e-db0a-2a31-4a673360b0b7
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXfixes.so.3.1.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXfixes.so.3.1.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "D6935910554EDB0A2A314A673360B0B70"
  (version)                       = ""

module[35]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x55f000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6b30
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 43
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6b70
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3.1.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = d6935910-554e-db0a-2a31-4a673360b0b7
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXfixes.so.3.1.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXfixes.so.3.1.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "D6935910554EDB0A2A314A673360B0B70"
  (version)                       = ""

module[36]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x560000
  size_of_image                   = 0x8000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6ba0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6be0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.3.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 5dcba3b3-72ff-f630-d97c-e50e277835cf
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXrender.so.1.3.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXrender.so.1.3.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "5DCBA3B372FFF630D97CE50E277835CF0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[37]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x568000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6c10
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6c50
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.3.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 5dcba3b3-72ff-f630-d97c-e50e277835cf
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXrender.so.1.3.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXrender.so.1.3.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "5DCBA3B372FFF630D97CE50E277835CF0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[38]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x569000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6c80
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 45
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6cc0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = c6ce437f-586d-87f7-cfaa-d9711522cee0
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXinerama.so.1.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXinerama.so.1.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "C6CE437F586D87F7CFAAD9711522CEE00"
  (version)                       = ""

module[39]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x56b000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6cf0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 45
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6d30
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = c6ce437f-586d-87f7-cfaa-d9711522cee0
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXinerama.so.1.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXinerama.so.1.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "C6CE437F586D87F7CFAAD9711522CEE00"
  (version)                       = ""

module[40]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x56c000
  size_of_image                   = 0x3f5000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6d60
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 51
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6db0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = f2f166df-10da-efcf-8fb2-552063994967
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "F2F166DF10DAEFCF8FB25520639949670"
  (version)                       = ""

module[41]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x961000
  size_of_image                   = 0x6000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6de8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 51
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6e38
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = f2f166df-10da-efcf-8fb2-552063994967
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "F2F166DF10DAEFCF8FB25520639949670"
  (version)                       = ""

module[42]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x968000
  size_of_image                   = 0x32000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6e70
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6eb8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1.3.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 1a6d591e-c6dc-45b3-29b4-d18ce38757f4
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libfontconfig.so.1.3.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libfontconfig.so.1.3.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "1A6D591EC6DC45B329B4D18CE38757F40"
  (version)                       = ""

module[43]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x99a000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6ee8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6f30
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1.3.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 1a6d591e-c6dc-45b3-29b4-d18ce38757f4
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libfontconfig.so.1.3.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libfontconfig.so.1.3.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "1A6D591EC6DC45B329B4D18CE38757F40"
  (version)                       = ""

module[44]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x99c000
  size_of_image                   = 0x26000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6f60
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6f90
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libm-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 72d4d31a-a0da-23d3-aa18-8eb2f68afd83
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libm-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libm-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "72D4D31AA0DA23D3AA188EB2F68AFD830"
  (version)                       = ""

module[45]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9c2000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x6fb8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x6fe8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libm-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 72d4d31a-a0da-23d3-aa18-8eb2f68afd83
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libm-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libm-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "72D4D31AA0DA23D3AA188EB2F68AFD830"
  (version)                       = ""

module[46]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9c3000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7010
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7040
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libm-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 72d4d31a-a0da-23d3-aa18-8eb2f68afd83
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libm-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libm-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "72D4D31AA0DA23D3AA188EB2F68AFD830"
  (version)                       = ""

module[47]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9c4000
  size_of_image                   = 0xf000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7068
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x70a0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXext.so.6.4.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 3b8b5e9b-2b87-22dc-52fa-82be8c885027
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXext.so.6.4.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXext.so.6.4.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "3B8B5E9B2B8722DC52FA82BE8C8850270"
  (version)                       = ""

module[48]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9d3000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x70d0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7108
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXext.so.6.4.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 3b8b5e9b-2b87-22dc-52fa-82be8c885027
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXext.so.6.4.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXext.so.6.4.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "3B8B5E9B2B8722DC52FA82BE8C8850270"
  (version)                       = ""

module[49]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9d4000
  size_of_image                   = 0x9000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7138
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7170
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXi.so.6.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8df10e38-812e-09c2-d031-8099d4be264e
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXi.so.6.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXi.so.6.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8DF10E38812E09C2D0318099D4BE264E0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[50]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9dd000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7198
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x71d0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXi.so.6.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8df10e38-812e-09c2-d031-8099d4be264e
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXi.so.6.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXi.so.6.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8DF10E38812E09C2D0318099D4BE264E0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[51]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9de000
  size_of_image                   = 0x7000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x71f8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 43
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7238
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2.2.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 3cf45847-25ec-d29b-2d7b-ca5477467340
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXrandr.so.2.2.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXrandr.so.2.2.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "3CF4584725ECD29B2D7BCA54774673400"
  (version)                       = ""

module[52]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9e5000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7268
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 43
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x72a8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2.2.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 3cf45847-25ec-d29b-2d7b-ca5477467340
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXrandr.so.2.2.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXrandr.so.2.2.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "3CF4584725ECD29B2D7BCA54774673400"
  (version)                       = ""

module[53]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9e6000
  size_of_image                   = 0x9000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x72d8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7318
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1.0.2"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 3588a67d-2bb9-7d61-974b-125205385cac
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXcursor.so.1.0.2"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXcursor.so.1.0.2"
  (debug_identifier)              = "3588A67D2BB97D61974B125205385CAC0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[54]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9ef000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7348
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7388
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1.0.2"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 3588a67d-2bb9-7d61-974b-125205385cac
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXcursor.so.1.0.2"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXcursor.so.1.0.2"
  (debug_identifier)              = "3588A67D2BB97D61974B125205385CAC0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[55]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9f0000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x73b8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7400
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXcomposite.so.1.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 892bfdaf-0d7f-de00-b764-1b19b00bc82a
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXcomposite.so.1.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXcomposite.so.1.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "892BFDAF0D7FDE00B7641B19B00BC82A0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[56]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9f2000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7430
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7478
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXcomposite.so.1.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 892bfdaf-0d7f-de00-b764-1b19b00bc82a
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXcomposite.so.1.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXcomposite.so.1.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "892BFDAF0D7FDE00B7641B19B00BC82A0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[57]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x9f3000
  size_of_image                   = 0x12000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x74a8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 38
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x74d8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libz.so.1.2.3"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 3c8a7753-d6f3-7cc4-fba5-5239ba3bcb22
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libz.so.1.2.3"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libz.so.1.2.3"
  (debug_identifier)              = "3C8A7753D6F37CC4FBA55239BA3BCB220"
  (version)                       = ""

module[58]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa05000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7500
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 38
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7530
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libz.so.1.2.3"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 3c8a7753-d6f3-7cc4-fba5-5239ba3bcb22
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libz.so.1.2.3"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libz.so.1.2.3"
  (debug_identifier)              = "3C8A7753D6F37CC4FBA55239BA3BCB220"
  (version)                       = ""

module[59]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa06000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7558
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7598
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1.1.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 6a2cf3a1-d689-321e-3c36-8c7509d255c7
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXdamage.so.1.1.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXdamage.so.1.1.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "6A2CF3A1D689321E3C368C7509D255C70"
  (version)                       = ""

module[60]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa08000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x75c8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7608
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1.1.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 6a2cf3a1-d689-321e-3c36-8c7509d255c7
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXdamage.so.1.1.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXdamage.so.1.1.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "6A2CF3A1D689321E3C368C7509D255C70"
  (version)                       = ""

module[61]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa09000
  size_of_image                   = 0x26000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7638
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 43
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7678
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libpng12.so.0.35.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = e19a642f-5e77-5b36-a786-07387fef9a03
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpng12.so.0.35.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpng12.so.0.35.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "E19A642F5E775B36A78607387FEF9A030"
  (version)                       = ""

module[62]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa2f000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x76a8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 43
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x76e8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libpng12.so.0.35.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = e19a642f-5e77-5b36-a786-07387fef9a03
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpng12.so.0.35.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpng12.so.0.35.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "E19A642F5E775B36A78607387FEF9A030"
  (version)                       = ""

module[63]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa30000
  size_of_image                   = 0x25000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7718
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 42
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7750
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libexpat.so.1.5.2"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 0f8010a6-460c-ae31-0f9e-31a075d1674f
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libexpat.so.1.5.2"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libexpat.so.1.5.2"
  (debug_identifier)              = "0F8010A6460CAE310F9E31A075D1674F0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[64]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa55000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7780
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 42
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x77b8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libexpat.so.1.5.2"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 0f8010a6-460c-ae31-0f9e-31a075d1674f
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libexpat.so.1.5.2"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libexpat.so.1.5.2"
  (debug_identifier)              = "0F8010A6460CAE310F9E31A075D1674F0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[65]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa57000
  size_of_image                   = 0x4000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x77e8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 51
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7830
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 5733b5b5-6c2f-fa6c-36fd-3ee9558a4c89
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgthread-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgthread-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "5733B5B56C2FFA6C36FD3EE9558A4C890"
  (version)                       = ""

module[66]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa5b000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7868
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 51
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x78b0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 5733b5b5-6c2f-fa6c-36fd-3ee9558a4c89
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgthread-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgthread-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "5733B5B56C2FFA6C36FD3EE9558A4C890"
  (version)                       = ""

module[67]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa5c000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x78e8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7920
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXau.so.6.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 0d231200-9e9d-ccc8-beb2-6d9721c0991c
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXau.so.6.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXau.so.6.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "0D2312009E9DCCC8BEB26D9721C0991C0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[68]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa5e000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7948
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7980
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libXau.so.6.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 0d231200-9e9d-ccc8-beb2-6d9721c0991c
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libXau.so.6.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libXau.so.6.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "0D2312009E9DCCC8BEB26D9721C0991C0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[69]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa60000
  size_of_image                   = 0xf000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x79a8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x79e0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libsexy.so.2.0.4"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8ef2bf9f-ec7d-0ff3-a743-92ae4fa78553
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libsexy.so.2.0.4"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libsexy.so.2.0.4"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8EF2BF9FEC7D0FF3A74392AE4FA785530"
  (version)                       = ""

module[70]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa6f000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7a10
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7a48
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libsexy.so.2.0.4"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8ef2bf9f-ec7d-0ff3-a743-92ae4fa78553
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libsexy.so.2.0.4"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libsexy.so.2.0.4"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8EF2BF9FEC7D0FF3A74392AE4FA785530"
  (version)                       = ""

module[71]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xa70000
  size_of_image                   = 0xde000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7a78
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 48
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7ab8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 3fede9c9-398b-f362-2a57-08efe7fc498c
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libglib-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libglib-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "3FEDE9C9398BF3622A5708EFE7FC498C0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[72]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xb4e000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7ae8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 48
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7b28
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 3fede9c9-398b-f362-2a57-08efe7fc498c
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libglib-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libglib-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "3FEDE9C9398BF3622A5708EFE7FC498C0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[73]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xb4f000
  size_of_image                   = 0x44000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7b58
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 46
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7ba0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0.14.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8628e081-9b6c-ee0d-94a3-5ed3d1db1d05
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpixman-1.so.0.14.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpixman-1.so.0.14.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8628E0819B6CEE0D94A35ED3D1DB1D050"
  (version)                       = ""

module[74]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xb93000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7bd0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 46
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7c18
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0.14.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8628e081-9b6c-ee0d-94a3-5ed3d1db1d05
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpixman-1.so.0.14.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpixman-1.so.0.14.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8628E0819B6CEE0D94A35ED3D1DB1D050"
  (version)                       = ""

module[75]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xb95000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1b000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7c48
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7c80
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libxcb.so.1.1.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 823931e8-0260-760a-56f5-db5e94621e60
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libxcb.so.1.1.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libxcb.so.1.1.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "823931E80260760A56F5DB5E94621E600"
  (version)                       = ""

module[76]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbb0000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7ca8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7ce0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libxcb.so.1.1.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 823931e8-0260-760a-56f5-db5e94621e60
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libxcb.so.1.1.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libxcb.so.1.1.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "823931E80260760A56F5DB5E94621E600"
  (version)                       = ""

module[77]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbb1000
  size_of_image                   = 0x7000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7d08
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7d38
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/librt-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 6fb3e70e-6dc4-61cd-9536-831aa212b6a1
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "librt-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "librt-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "6FB3E70E6DC461CD9536831AA212B6A10"
  (version)                       = ""

module[78]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbb8000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7d60
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7d90
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/librt-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 6fb3e70e-6dc4-61cd-9536-831aa212b6a1
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "librt-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "librt-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "6FB3E70E6DC461CD9536831AA212B6A10"
  (version)                       = ""

module[79]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbb9000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7db8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7de8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/librt-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 6fb3e70e-6dc4-61cd-9536-831aa212b6a1
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "librt-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "librt-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "6FB3E70E6DC461CD9536831AA212B6A10"
  (version)                       = ""

module[80]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbba000
  size_of_image                   = 0x7000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7e10
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7e48
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libSM.so.6.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 1c99f070-cf46-825f-85de-3c0fdf680ad2
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libSM.so.6.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libSM.so.6.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "1C99F070CF46825F85DE3C0FDF680AD20"
  (version)                       = ""

module[81]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbc1000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7e70
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7ea8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libSM.so.6.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 1c99f070-cf46-825f-85de-3c0fdf680ad2
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libSM.so.6.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libSM.so.6.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "1C99F070CF46825F85DE3C0FDF680AD20"
  (version)                       = ""

module[82]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbc4000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1c000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7ed0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7f00
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libselinux.so.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 76a6988b-c578-9f9a-618a-5b10149d1b6d
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libselinux.so.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libselinux.so.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "76A6988BC5789F9A618A5B10149D1B6D0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[83]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbe0000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7f28
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7f58
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libselinux.so.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 76a6988b-c578-9f9a-618a-5b10149d1b6d
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libselinux.so.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libselinux.so.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "76A6988BC5789F9A618A5B10149D1B6D0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[84]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbe1000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7f80
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x7fb0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libselinux.so.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 76a6988b-c578-9f9a-618a-5b10149d1b6d
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libselinux.so.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libselinux.so.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "76A6988BC5789F9A618A5B10149D1B6D0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[85]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbe2000
  size_of_image                   = 0x3000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x7fd8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8008
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libuuid.so.1.2"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = fc786e29-31df-5a7a-d3fd-a3ea250f76b6
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libuuid.so.1.2"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libuuid.so.1.2"
  (debug_identifier)              = "FC786E2931DF5A7AD3FDA3EA250F76B60"
  (version)                       = ""

module[86]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbe5000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8030
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8060
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libuuid.so.1.2"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = fc786e29-31df-5a7a-d3fd-a3ea250f76b6
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libuuid.so.1.2"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libuuid.so.1.2"
  (debug_identifier)              = "FC786E2931DF5A7AD3FDA3EA250F76B60"
  (version)                       = ""

module[87]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbe6000
  size_of_image                   = 0xb000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8088
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x80c8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libnss_files-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8469dfc5-0807-18a3-4c90-2f0286bed199
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libnss_files-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libnss_files-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8469DFC5080718A34C902F0286BED1990"
  (version)                       = ""

module[88]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbf1000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x80f8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8138
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libnss_files-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8469dfc5-0807-18a3-4c90-2f0286bed199
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libnss_files-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libnss_files-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8469DFC5080718A34C902F0286BED1990"
  (version)                       = ""

module[89]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbf2000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8168
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x81a8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libnss_files-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8469dfc5-0807-18a3-4c90-2f0286bed199
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libnss_files-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libnss_files-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8469DFC5080718A34C902F0286BED1990"
  (version)                       = ""

module[90]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xbf3000
  size_of_image                   = 0x16000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x81d8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 45
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8210
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libpthread-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = b9c7d6c1-b943-a5bd-65fe-f319f5fa2e87
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpthread-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpthread-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "B9C7D6C1B943A5BD65FEF319F5FA2E870"
  (version)                       = ""

module[91]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc09000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8240
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 45
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8278
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libpthread-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = b9c7d6c1-b943-a5bd-65fe-f319f5fa2e87
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpthread-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpthread-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "B9C7D6C1B943A5BD65FEF319F5FA2E870"
  (version)                       = ""

module[92]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc0a000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x82a8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 45
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x82e0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libpthread-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = b9c7d6c1-b943-a5bd-65fe-f319f5fa2e87
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpthread-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpthread-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "B9C7D6C1B943A5BD65FEF319F5FA2E870"
  (version)                       = ""

module[93]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc0b000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8310
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 45
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8348
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libpthread-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = b9c7d6c1-b943-a5bd-65fe-f319f5fa2e87
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpthread-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpthread-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "B9C7D6C1B943A5BD65FEF319F5FA2E870"
  (version)                       = ""

module[94]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc0e000
  size_of_image                   = 0x17000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8378
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x83b0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libICE.so.6.3.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 508ac3c3-2709-f7fe-fa0a-dc36f3cd7f13
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libICE.so.6.3.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libICE.so.6.3.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "508AC3C32709F7FEFA0ADC36F3CD7F130"
  (version)                       = ""

module[95]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc25000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x83d8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8410
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libICE.so.6.3.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 508ac3c3-2709-f7fe-fa0a-dc36f3cd7f13
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libICE.so.6.3.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libICE.so.6.3.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "508AC3C32709F7FEFA0ADC36F3CD7F130"
  (version)                       = ""

module[96]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc28000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2a000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8438
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x84a0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libclearlooks.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 681bc695-0d9d-1acc-e013-c5bc0c6a86ef
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libclearlooks.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libclearlooks.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "681BC6950D9D1ACCE013C5BC0C6A86EF0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[97]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc52000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x84d0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8538
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libclearlooks.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 681bc695-0d9d-1acc-e013-c5bc0c6a86ef
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libclearlooks.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libclearlooks.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "681BC6950D9D1ACCE013C5BC0C6A86EF0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[98]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc53000
  size_of_image                   = 0x4000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8568
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 50
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x85d8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 70b6e8be-e5a9-82c8-ebb8-b5c837b1e877
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libcanberra-gtk-module.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libcanberra-gtk-module.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "70B6E8BEE5A982C8EBB8B5C837B1E8770"
  (version)                       = ""

module[99]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc57000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8610
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 50
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8680
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 70b6e8be-e5a9-82c8-ebb8-b5c837b1e877
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libcanberra-gtk-module.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libcanberra-gtk-module.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "70B6E8BEE5A982C8EBB8B5C837B1E8770"
  (version)                       = ""

module[100]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc5f000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1e000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x86b8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 48
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8700
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2.1.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = bd0a381d-b555-07d3-5345-e2ab28fe8ca2
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libdbus-glib-1.so.2.1.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libdbus-glib-1.so.2.1.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "BD0A381DB55507D35345E2AB28FE8CA20"
  (version)                       = ""

module[101]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc7d000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8730
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 48
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8778
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2.1.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = bd0a381d-b555-07d3-5345-e2ab28fe8ca2
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libdbus-glib-1.so.2.1.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libdbus-glib-1.so.2.1.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "BD0A381DB55507D35345E2AB28FE8CA20"
  (version)                       = ""

module[102]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc7e000
  size_of_image                   = 0xf000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x87a8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 45
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x87e8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libcanberra.so.0.1.5"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 127b147e-d492-55cd-1568-2064763d7f8f
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libcanberra.so.0.1.5"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libcanberra.so.0.1.5"
  (debug_identifier)              = "127B147ED49255CD15682064763D7F8F0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[103]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc8d000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8818
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 45
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8858
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libcanberra.so.0.1.5"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 127b147e-d492-55cd-1568-2064763d7f8f
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libcanberra.so.0.1.5"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libcanberra.so.0.1.5"
  (debug_identifier)              = "127B147ED49255CD15682064763D7F8F0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[104]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc8e000
  size_of_image                   = 0x8000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8888
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x88c0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libltdl.so.7.2.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 5600e483-31af-2b7c-2b9b-c3427a4bad8b
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libltdl.so.7.2.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libltdl.so.7.2.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "5600E48331AF2B7C2B9BC3427A4BAD8B0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[105]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc96000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x88f0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8928
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libltdl.so.7.2.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 5600e483-31af-2b7c-2b9b-c3427a4bad8b
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libltdl.so.7.2.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libltdl.so.7.2.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "5600E48331AF2B7C2B9BC3427A4BAD8B0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[106]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xc98000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1c000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8958
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 43
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8998
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libvorbis.so.0.4.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = dc4220aa-a0ee-2aa9-9277-be0dc48d7052
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libvorbis.so.0.4.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libvorbis.so.0.4.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "DC4220AAA0EE2AA99277BE0DC48D70520"
  (version)                       = ""

module[107]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xcb4000
  size_of_image                   = 0xe000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x89c8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 43
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8a08
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libvorbis.so.0.4.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = dc4220aa-a0ee-2aa9-9277-be0dc48d7052
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libvorbis.so.0.4.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libvorbis.so.0.4.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "DC4220AAA0EE2AA99277BE0DC48D70520"
  (version)                       = ""

module[108]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xcc2000
  size_of_image                   = 0xd000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8a38
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8a70
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libtdb.so.1.1.3"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = f52ea536-675c-fa9f-3e6d-ceee555cd199
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libtdb.so.1.1.3"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libtdb.so.1.1.3"
  (debug_identifier)              = "F52EA536675CFA9F3E6DCEEE555CD1990"
  (version)                       = ""

module[109]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xccf000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8a98
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8ad0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libtdb.so.1.1.3"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = f52ea536-675c-fa9f-3e6d-ceee555cd199
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libtdb.so.1.1.3"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libtdb.so.1.1.3"
  (debug_identifier)              = "F52EA536675CFA9F3E6DCEEE555CD1990"
  (version)                       = ""

module[110]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xcd0000
  size_of_image                   = 0xe000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8af8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8b58
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgnomebreakpad.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 0705e21a-92b5-3d58-2bea-af898313784c
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgnomebreakpad.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgnomebreakpad.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "0705E21A92B53D582BEAAF898313784C0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[111]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xcde000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8b88
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8be8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgnomebreakpad.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 0705e21a-92b5-3d58-2bea-af898313784c
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgnomebreakpad.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgnomebreakpad.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "0705E21A92B53D582BEAAF898313784C0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[112]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xcdf000
  size_of_image                   = 0x15000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8c18
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8c50
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libelf-0.140.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 869e1980-a4bb-1892-e97c-d09814bbbb6e
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libelf-0.140.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libelf-0.140.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "869E1980A4BB1892E97CD09814BBBB6E0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[113]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xcf4000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8c78
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8cb0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libelf-0.140.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 869e1980-a4bb-1892-e97c-d09814bbbb6e
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libelf-0.140.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libelf-0.140.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "869E1980A4BB1892E97CD09814BBBB6E0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[114]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xcf5000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8cd8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8d10
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libelf-0.140.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 869e1980-a4bb-1892-e97c-d09814bbbb6e
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libelf-0.140.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libelf-0.140.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "869E1980A4BB1892E97CD09814BBBB6E0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[115]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xd07000
  size_of_image                   = 0x3000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8d38
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 49
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8d80
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libcanberra-gtk.so.0.0.5"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 9163eb5f-a53e-81ac-e4d9-2ae99b544c2c
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libcanberra-gtk.so.0.0.5"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libcanberra-gtk.so.0.0.5"
  (debug_identifier)              = "9163EB5FA53E81ACE4D92AE99B544C2C0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[116]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xd0a000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8db8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 49
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8e00
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libcanberra-gtk.so.0.0.5"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 9163eb5f-a53e-81ac-e4d9-2ae99b544c2c
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libcanberra-gtk.so.0.0.5"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libcanberra-gtk.so.0.0.5"
  (debug_identifier)              = "9163EB5FA53E81ACE4D92AE99B544C2C0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[117]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xd1d000
  size_of_image                   = 0x50000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8e38
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8e78
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libORBit-2.so.0.1.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 30cf2929-eb4d-202e-e8b0-0133e5176df6
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libORBit-2.so.0.1.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libORBit-2.so.0.1.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "30CF2929EB4D202EE8B00133E5176DF60"
  (version)                       = ""

module[118]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xd6d000
  size_of_image                   = 0xa000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8ea8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8ee8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libORBit-2.so.0.1.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 30cf2929-eb4d-202e-e8b0-0133e5176df6
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libORBit-2.so.0.1.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libORBit-2.so.0.1.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "30CF2929EB4D202EE8B00133E5176DF60"
  (version)                       = ""

module[119]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xd77000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2a000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8f18
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 53
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8f60
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libgcc_s-4.4.0-20090506.so.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 47d3809a-536e-9394-3746-f4bcdc9c80ed
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgcc_s-4.4.0-20090506.so.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgcc_s-4.4.0-20090506.so.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "47D3809A536E93943746F4BCDC9C80ED0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[120]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xda1000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x8f98
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 53
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x8fe0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libgcc_s-4.4.0-20090506.so.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 47d3809a-536e-9394-3746-f4bcdc9c80ed
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgcc_s-4.4.0-20090506.so.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgcc_s-4.4.0-20090506.so.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "47D3809A536E93943746F4BCDC9C80ED0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[121]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xda6000
  size_of_image                   = 0x40000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9018
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 51
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9060
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 9400845f-e0b7-5f03-7819-f45f7beec544
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgobject-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgobject-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "9400845FE0B75F037819F45F7BEEC5440"
  (version)                       = ""

module[122]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xde6000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9098
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 51
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x90e0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 9400845f-e0b7-5f03-7819-f45f7beec544
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgobject-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgobject-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "9400845FE0B75F037819F45F7BEEC5440"
  (version)                       = ""

module[123]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xdfb000
  size_of_image                   = 0x5000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9118
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9150
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libogg.so.0.5.3"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = a0dcb2b1-6cb9-94aa-34ce-b197a4473ee6
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libogg.so.0.5.3"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libogg.so.0.5.3"
  (debug_identifier)              = "A0DCB2B16CB994AA34CEB197A4473EE60"
  (version)                       = ""

module[124]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xe00000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9178
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x91b0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libogg.so.0.5.3"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = a0dcb2b1-6cb9-94aa-34ce-b197a4473ee6
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libogg.so.0.5.3"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libogg.so.0.5.3"
  (debug_identifier)              = "A0DCB2B16CB994AA34CEB197A4473EE60"
  (version)                       = ""

module[125]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xe28000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x91d8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9238
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libpk-gtk-module.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 884e6e00-597f-d43b-f35e-150acc34951b
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpk-gtk-module.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpk-gtk-module.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "884E6E00597FD43BF35E150ACC34951B0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[126]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xe2a000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9268
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x92c8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libpk-gtk-module.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 884e6e00-597f-d43b-f35e-150acc34951b
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libpk-gtk-module.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libpk-gtk-module.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "884E6E00597FD43BF35E150ACC34951B0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[127]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xe2c000
  size_of_image                   = 0x8f000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x92f8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 46
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9340
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.20"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 42d4573a-f906-15d8-9594-177b33a9014d
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libfreetype.so.6.3.20"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libfreetype.so.6.3.20"
  (debug_identifier)              = "42D4573AF90615D89594177B33A9014D0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[128]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xebb000
  size_of_image                   = 0x4000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9370
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 46
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x93b8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.20"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 42d4573a-f906-15d8-9594-177b33a9014d
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libfreetype.so.6.3.20"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libfreetype.so.6.3.20"
  (debug_identifier)              = "42D4573AF90615D89594177B33A9014D0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[129]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xee2000
  size_of_image                   = 0x4000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x93e8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9418
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libattr.so.1.1.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = c6e60d49-bd08-4658-c880-7ed9c264fe48
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libattr.so.1.1.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libattr.so.1.1.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "C6E60D49BD084658C8807ED9C264FE480"
  (version)                       = ""

module[130]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xee6000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9448
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 41
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9478
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libattr.so.1.1.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = c6e60d49-bd08-4658-c880-7ed9c264fe48
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libattr.so.1.1.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libattr.so.1.1.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "C6E60D49BD084658C8807ED9C264FE480"
  (version)                       = ""

module[131]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xeef000
  size_of_image                   = 0x7000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x94a8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x94f0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3.2.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 9c93306c-8982-2e12-0095-971dd7ef6ca1
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libvorbisfile.so.3.2.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libvorbisfile.so.3.2.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "9C93306C89822E120095971DD7EF6CA10"
  (version)                       = ""

module[132]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xef6000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9520
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 47
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9568
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3.2.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 9c93306c-8982-2e12-0095-971dd7ef6ca1
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libvorbisfile.so.3.2.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libvorbisfile.so.3.2.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "9C93306C89822E120095971DD7EF6CA10"
  (version)                       = ""

module[133]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xef7000
  size_of_image                   = 0x4e000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9598
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 45
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x95f0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/bug-buddy/libbreakpad.so.0.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 9a15af7c-ab98-d94b-1081-5cdd7c9c35c0
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libbreakpad.so.0.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libbreakpad.so.0.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "9A15AF7CAB98D94B10815CDD7C9C35C00"
  (version)                       = ""

module[134]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xf45000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9620
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 45
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9678
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/bug-buddy/libbreakpad.so.0.0.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 9a15af7c-ab98-d94b-1081-5cdd7c9c35c0
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libbreakpad.so.0.0.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libbreakpad.so.0.0.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "9A15AF7CAB98D94B10815CDD7C9C35C00"
  (version)                       = ""

module[135]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xf49000
  size_of_image                   = 0x3000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x96a8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 51
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x96f0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 64848b76-751c-cfb9-a099-90aa4b3d44ba
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgmodule-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgmodule-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "64848B76751CCFB9A09990AA4B3D44BA0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[136]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xf4c000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9728
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 51
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9770
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 64848b76-751c-cfb9-a099-90aa4b3d44ba
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libgmodule-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libgmodule-2.0.so.0.2000.1"
  (debug_identifier)              = "64848B76751CCFB9A09990AA4B3D44BA0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[137]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xf56000
  size_of_image                   = 0x20000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x97a8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 37
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x97d0
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/ld-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8cdaa688-ed78-d37b-eb34-a09edd1e020e
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "ld-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "ld-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8CDAA688ED78D37BEB34A09EDD1E020E0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[138]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xf76000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x97f8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 37
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9820
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/ld-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8cdaa688-ed78-d37b-eb34-a09edd1e020e
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "ld-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "ld-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8CDAA688ED78D37BEB34A09EDD1E020E0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[139]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xf77000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9848
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 37
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9870
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/ld-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 8cdaa688-ed78-d37b-eb34-a09edd1e020e
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "ld-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "ld-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "8CDAA688ED78D37BEB34A09EDD1E020E0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[140]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xf78000
  size_of_image                   = 0x16b000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9898
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x98c8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libc-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 567d5630-19c4-6085-478f-d1057687fe5d
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libc-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libc-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "567D563019C46085478FD1057687FE5D0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[141]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x10e3000
  size_of_image                   = 0x2000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x98f0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9920
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libc-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 567d5630-19c4-6085-478f-d1057687fe5d
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libc-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libc-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "567D563019C46085478FD1057687FE5D0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[142]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x10e5000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9948
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9978
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/lib/libc-2.10.1.so"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 567d5630-19c4-6085-478f-d1057687fe5d
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libc-2.10.1.so"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libc-2.10.1.so"
  (debug_identifier)              = "567D563019C46085478FD1057687FE5D0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[143]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x137b000
  size_of_image                   = 0x12c000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x99a0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x99d8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = e432b64f-7e56-38f9-36de-1a3e4a6a64f0
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libX11.so.6.2.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libX11.so.6.2.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "E432B64F7E5638F936DE1A3E4A6A64F00"
  (version)                       = ""

module[144]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x14a7000
  size_of_image                   = 0x4000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9a00
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 40
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9a38
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = e432b64f-7e56-38f9-36de-1a3e4a6a64f0
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libX11.so.6.2.0"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libX11.so.6.2.0"
  (debug_identifier)              = "E432B64F7E5638F936DE1A3E4A6A64F00"
  (version)                       = ""

module[145]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x8048000
  size_of_image                   = 0x9000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9a60
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9aa8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/libexec/notification-daemon"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = b66fbdd7-c09d-09b9-c484-2d923eed7e8b
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "notification-daemon"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "notification-daemon"
  (debug_identifier)              = "B66FBDD7C09D09B9C4842D923EED7E8B0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[146]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x8051000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9ad8
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9b20
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/libexec/notification-daemon"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = b66fbdd7-c09d-09b9-c484-2d923eed7e8b
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "notification-daemon"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "notification-daemon"
  (debug_identifier)              = "B66FBDD7C09D09B9C4842D923EED7E8B0"
  (version)                       = ""

module[147]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x85ef000
  size_of_image                   = 0xe1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9b50
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9b90
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.11"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 1b0ed38d-6095-e33d-986f-025dbed12dd1
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libstdc++.so.6.0.11"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libstdc++.so.6.0.11"
  (debug_identifier)              = "1B0ED38D6095E33D986F025DBED12DD10"
  (version)                       = ""

module[148]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x86d0000
  size_of_image                   = 0x4000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9bc0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9c00
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.11"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 1b0ed38d-6095-e33d-986f-025dbed12dd1
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libstdc++.so.6.0.11"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libstdc++.so.6.0.11"
  (debug_identifier)              = "1B0ED38D6095E33D986F025DBED12DD10"
  (version)                       = ""

module[149]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0x86d4000
  size_of_image                   = 0x1000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9c30
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 44
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9c70
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.11"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 1b0ed38d-6095-e33d-986f-025dbed12dd1
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "libstdc++.so.6.0.11"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "libstdc++.so.6.0.11"
  (debug_identifier)              = "1B0ED38D6095E33D986F025DBED12DD10"
  (version)                       = ""

module[150]
MDRawModule
  base_of_image                   = 0xb7e2f000
  size_of_image                   = 0x200000
  checksum                        = 0x0
  time_date_stamp                 = 0x0
  module_name_rva                 = 0x9ca0
  version_info.signature          = 0x0
  version_info.struct_version     = 0x0
  version_info.file_version       = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.product_version    = 0x0:0x0
  version_info.file_flags_mask    = 0x0
  version_info.file_flags         = 0x0
  version_info.file_os            = 0x0
  version_info.file_type          = 0x0
  version_info.file_subtype       = 0x0
  version_info.file_date          = 0x0:0x0
  cv_record.data_size             = 39
  cv_record.rva                   = 0x9ce8
  misc_record.data_size           = 0
  misc_record.rva                 = 0x0
  (code_file)                     = "/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive"
  (code_identifier)               = "id"
  (cv_record).cv_signature        = 0x53445352
  (cv_record).signature           = 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
  (cv_record).age                 = 0
  (cv_record).pdb_file_name       = "locale-archive"
  (misc_record)                   = (null)
  (debug_file)                    = "locale-archive"
  (debug_identifier)              = "000000000000000000000000000000000"
  (version)                       = ""

MDRawSystemInfo
  processor_architecture                     = 0
  processor_level                            = 1
  processor_revision                         = 0xa09
  number_of_processors                       = 1
  product_type                               = 0
  major_version                              = 0
  minor_version                              = 0
  build_number                               = 0
  platform_id                                = 33281
  csd_version_rva                            = 0x9d48
  suite_mask                                 = 0x0
  cpu.x86_cpu_info.vendor_id[0]              = 0x746e6543
  cpu.x86_cpu_info.vendor_id[1]              = 0x48727561
  cpu.x86_cpu_info.vendor_id[2]              = 0x736c7561
  cpu.x86_cpu_info.version_information       = 0x0
  cpu.x86_cpu_info.feature_information       = 0x0
  cpu.x86_cpu_info.amd_extended_cpu_features = 0x0
  (csd_version)                              = "Linux 2.6.29.3-140.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue May 12 10:30:21 EDT 2009 i686 GNU/Linux"
  (cpu_vendor)                               = "CentaurHauls"

MDRawMiscInfo
  size_of_info                 = 44
  flags1                       = 0x1
  process_id                   = 0x8a5
  process_create_time          = 0x0
  process_user_time            = 0x0
  process_kernel_time          = 0x0
  processor_max_mhz            = 0
  processor_current_mhz        = 0
  processor_mhz_limit          = 0
  processor_max_idle_state     = 0x0
  processor_current_idle_state = 0x0

MDRawBreakpadInfo
  validity             = 0x3
  dump_thread_id       = 0xc63
  requesting_thread_id = 0x8a5


From mcepl at redhat.com  Thu May 14 09:28:54 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:28:54 +0200
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
References: <374924.45555.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1242257457.2923.917.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <lr4td6-9db.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

On 2009-05-13, 23:30 GMT, Adam Williamson wrote:
> BTW, FWIW, I always find the output of plain lspci about as 
> useful as a chocolate teapot. What I want to know is the PCI 
> ID, and it doesn't give you that. "lspci -nn" does, though.  
> I don't know if the X maintainers prefer that output or if 
> they're able to work with just plain lspci...

The best is always to use /var/log/Xorg.0.log ... it has all 
information from lspci and then some added.

Mat?j



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Thu May 14 10:56:39 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 03:56:39 -0700
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
References: <692653.39723.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <87vdo4j6l4.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>


Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> writes:
> I have updated to yesterday's updates.  Today X is broken on two
> machines(those with ATI cards :( ) Will try to send specs and/or
> Xorg.log.?  to see if we can determine what is wrong.  Hopefully this
> afternoon or tomorrow morning I can send that in.

Same here.  I just filed a bugzilla.

     "kernel-2.6.29.3-140.fc11.x86_64 breaks Xorg on Radeon HD 3450"

     https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500801

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              http://www.full-steam.org/  (ipv6-only)
         You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Thu May 14 10:58:50 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 06:58:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
In-Reply-To: <87vdo4j6l4.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>
References: <692653.39723.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<87vdo4j6l4.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905140658001.14781@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 14 May 2009, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:

>
> Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> writes:
> > I have updated to yesterday's updates.  Today X is broken on two
> > machines(those with ATI cards :( ) Will try to send specs and/or
> > Xorg.log.?  to see if we can determine what is wrong.  Hopefully this
> > afternoon or tomorrow morning I can send that in.
>
> Same here.  I just filed a bugzilla.
>
>      "kernel-2.6.29.3-140.fc11.x86_64 breaks Xorg on Radeon HD 3450"
>
>      https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500801

  could that be related to this?

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495208

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Thu May 14 12:39:48 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 05:39:48 -0700
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
References: <692653.39723.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<87vdo4j6l4.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905140658001.14781@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <87d4abkgdn.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>


"Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday at crashcourse.ca> writes:
> On Thu, 14 May 2009, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>> Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> writes:
>> > I have updated to yesterday's updates.  Today X is broken on two
>> > machines(those with ATI cards :( ) Will try to send specs and/or
>> > Xorg.log.?  to see if we can determine what is wrong.  Hopefully this
>> > afternoon or tomorrow morning I can send that in.
>> Same here.  I just filed a bugzilla.
>>      "kernel-2.6.29.3-140.fc11.x86_64 breaks Xorg on Radeon HD 3450"
>>      https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500801
>   could that be related to this?
>   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495208

To me it sounds like it is at least in the same part of the world, but
different.  My bug is something that happened just with the most recent
kernel.  The previous kernel was ok. If I'm interpreting things
correctly dmsg seems to hint that my bug is a boring null-pointer
dereference.

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              http://www.full-steam.org/  (ipv6-only)
         You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Thu May 14 12:46:59 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:46:59 +1000
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d58417910905140546y29e63e55o3a7fca3070967037@mail.gmail.com>

I have just found out that if I have HDMI cable plugged in and restart the
laptop, a correct EDID gets picked up during boot process and I will have
the native 1920x1080 available. So it seems the problem only exists if I
plug in a HDMI cable when X has already started. See the Xorg.0.log below:

(II) intel(0): EDID for output HDMI1
(II) intel(0): Manufacturer: SAM  Model: 509  Serial#: 1
(II) intel(0): Year: 2008  Week: 48
(II) intel(0): EDID Version: 1.3
(II) intel(0): Digital Display Input
(II) intel(0): Indeterminate output size
(II) intel(0): Gamma: 2.20
(II) intel(0): No DPMS capabilities specified
(II) intel(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4
(II) intel(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode
(II) intel(0): redX: 0.640 redY: 0.330   greenX: 0.300 greenY: 0.600
(II) intel(0): blueX: 0.150 blueY: 0.060   whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: 0.329
(II) intel(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:
(II) intel(0): 720x400 at 70Hz
(II) intel(0): 640x480 at 60Hz
(II) intel(0): 640x480 at 67Hz
(II) intel(0): 640x480 at 72Hz
(II) intel(0): 640x480 at 75Hz
(II) intel(0): 800x600 at 60Hz
(II) intel(0): 800x600 at 72Hz
(II) intel(0): 800x600 at 75Hz
(II) intel(0): 832x624 at 75Hz
(II) intel(0): 1024x768 at 60Hz
(II) intel(0): 1024x768 at 70Hz
(II) intel(0): 1024x768 at 75Hz
(II) intel(0): 1280x1024 at 75Hz
(II) intel(0): 1152x870 at 75Hz
(II) intel(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
(II) intel(0): Supported Future Video Modes:
(II) intel(0): #0: hsize: 1152  vsize 864  refresh: 75  vid: 20337
(II) intel(0): #1: hsize: 1280  vsize 800  refresh: 60  vid: 129
(II) intel(0): #2: hsize: 1280  vsize 960  refresh: 60  vid: 16513
(II) intel(0): #3: hsize: 1280  vsize 1024  refresh: 60  vid: 32897
(II) intel(0): #4: hsize: 1440  vsize 900  refresh: 60  vid: 149
(II) intel(0): #5: hsize: 1440  vsize 900  refresh: 75  vid: 3989
(II) intel(0): #6: hsize: 1680  vsize 1050  refresh: 60  vid: 179
(II) intel(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) intel(0): clock: 148.5 MHz   Image Size:  160 x 90 mm
(II) intel(0): h_active: 1920  h_sync: 2008  h_sync_end 2052 h_blank_end
2200 h_border: 0
(II) intel(0): v_active: 1080  v_sync: 1084  v_sync_end 1089 v_blanking:
1125 v_border: 0
(II) intel(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) intel(0): clock: 85.5 MHz   Image Size:  160 x 90 mm
(II) intel(0): h_active: 1360  h_sync: 1424  h_sync_end 1536 h_blank_end
1792 h_border: 0
(II) intel(0): v_active: 768  v_sync: 771  v_sync_end 777 v_blanking: 795
v_border: 0
(II) intel(0): Ranges: V min: 24 V max: 75 Hz, H min: 26 H max: 81 kHz,
PixClock max 230 MHz
(II) intel(0): Monitor name: SAMSUNG
(II) intel(0): Number of EDID sections to follow: 1
(II) intel(0): EDID (in hex):
(II) intel(0):     00ffffffffffff004c2d090501000000
(II) intel(0):     30120103801009780aee91a3544c9926
(II) intel(0):     0f5054bdef80714f8100814081809500
(II) intel(0):     950fb3000101023a801871382d40582c
(II) intel(0):     4500a05a0000001e662150b051001b30
(II) intel(0):     40703600a05a0000001e000000fd0018
(II) intel(0):     4b1a5117000a202020202020000000fc
(II) intel(0):     0053414d53554e470a2020202020016f
(II) intel(0): Printing probed modes for output HDMI1
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x60.0  148.50  1920 2008 2052 2200  1080
1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688  1024
1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1360x768"x60.0   85.50  1360 1424 1536 1792  768
771 777 795 +hsync +vsync (47.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1152x864"x75.0  108.00  1152 1216 1344 1600  864
865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.1   78.80  1024 1040 1136 1312  768
769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.1 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x70.1   75.00  1024 1048 1184 1328  768
771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344  768
771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "832x624"x74.6   57.28  832 864 928 1152  624 625
628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x72.2   50.00  800 856 976 1040  600 637
643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x75.0   49.50  800 816 896 1056  600 601
604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600 601
605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x72.8   31.50  640 664 704 832  480 489 491
520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0   31.50  640 656 720 840  480 481 484
500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x66.7   30.24  640 704 768 864  480 483 486
525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x60.0   25.20  640 656 752 800  480 490 492
525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x70.1   28.32  720 738 846 900  400 412 414
449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz)
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090514/fe9ce3fc/attachment.htm>

From tom.horsley at att.net  Thu May 14 13:27:28 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:27:28 -0400
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <d58417910905140546y29e63e55o3a7fca3070967037@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<d58417910905140546y29e63e55o3a7fca3070967037@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090514092728.630882f6@tomh>

On Thu, 14 May 2009 22:46:59 +1000
Masood wrote:

> So it seems the problem only exists if I
> plug in a HDMI cable when X has already started.

Definitely. You'll see the same thing with KVM
switches. X has just gotta have the monitor
connection when it starts now, there is no
apparent way to convince it to just use the
mode you want.



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Thu May 14 13:39:23 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:39:23 -0600
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <1242259048.3602.14.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1242237318.10547.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242254877.3602.11.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242257336.3308.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242259048.3602.14.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242308363.3417.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 19:57 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 17:28 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > No I am not running F11 in my vmware.  I never had these problems before
> > F11.
> 
> OK.  Well, I encourage you to describe the system you are having trouble
> with in your bug report in detail, so package maintainers can figure out
> what's going wrong.

I'm actually having the same issues as Lawrence is. As a VCP+VI3
certified IT architect, I think I can give you just about any technical
detail you need.

First, we are talking specifically about the 64-bit version of VMware
Workstation 6.5.2 running on F11 Preview, with all of the latest
patches. We are also specifically talking about running both Windows and
Linux as guest VMs.

We are specifically NOT talking about running F11 as a guest.

Now... VMware Workstaion 6.5.2 does not run on F11 without a well-known
patch that fixes issues with Workstation running on kernel 2.6.29.
Obviously these patches have been applied because Workstation won't even
compile its modules without doing this.

The issues are:

1) Workstation is unable to recognize any kind of sound device on F11.
As a result, all VMs running do not have access to sound, and report
back that they can not see a sound device. This happens regardless of
the OS running on the guest VM.

2) VMs do not shut down completely on some systems. The only way to get
then to shut down is to force kill VMware Workstation itself. This, of
course, causes other issues such as VM data file corruption. Killing
Workstation in this way also requires that you either restart all of the
VMware services or reboot your system. Once you have done that, the VMs
that were running are in a zombied state and you must manually go into
the VM's folder and delete the various lock files and folders VMware
uses to monitor a VM's state. This then allows you to restart the VM as
if it had be crashed via a forced power off.

I am able to reproduce problem number 1 on both my desktop and laptop
systems, and reproduce problem number 2 on my desktop. For some unknown
reason, my laptop doesn't seem to be impacted by problem number 2.

Note that, because it is not on their supported OS list, VMware will not
provide support to fix Workstation so that it will run on F11. Moreover,
since Workstation does run without issue on F10, VMware will first ask
the Fedora Project team what they have changed in F11 to cause
Workstation to have these issues.

There is some support on the VMware Communities lists, but as yet,
nobody that I have seen has come up with a fix for these particular
problems, and since they are Fedora specific, they will ask the Fedora
folks to at least provide some technical information to help
troubleshoot and resolve the problem. To date, that hasn't happened yet.
Instead, all the responses I have seen are things like "go ask VMware,"
or "Just run <insert alternate 'fan-boy' favorite desktop virtualization
tool here>."

As a VCP, I have access to extra resources inside of VMware, but I can't
give them anything meaningful without help from the Fedora Project team.

Would really appreciate getting some help here instead of finger
pointing and useless arguments about running something else because
people would rather pontificate than help.

Cheers,

Chris


--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From ajax at redhat.com  Thu May 14 14:23:31 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:23:31 -0400
Subject: yum remove half-of-my-system
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905140943020.21402@gotcha.dreamhost.com>
References: <4A0B05FB.1060301@redhat.com>
	<1242237145.6282.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905131402550.7487@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242238099.6282.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242243299.21675.163.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<alpine.DEB.1.10.0905140943020.21402@gotcha.dreamhost.com>
Message-ID: <1242311011.21675.234.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 09:51 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2009, Adam Jackson wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 11:08 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 14:03 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I agree with  this except then we have to put rpmq-crontab in a separate
> >>> pkg which would need to be added to comps base, I think.
> >>
> >> Or we question the usefulness of the cron job itself and potentially
> >> scrub it all together.
> >
> > IAWTP.
> 
> Tell that to the people whose rpmdb got destroyed somehow (I remember 
> doing an accidental 'rm -f /var/lib/rpm/*' myself a few years ago...) and 
> managed to resurrect the system by using the data in /var/log/rpmpkgs :)

These days I'd be inclined to do something like:

for i in /{,usr}/{,s}bin ; do
    pkgs=`repoquery --whatprovides $i`
    if [ `echo $pkgs | wc -w` -gt 1 ] ; then
        echo $pkgs 1>&2
    else
        echo $pkgs
    fi
done 2>& troublemakers | sort | uniq -c > packages

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090514/ac217058/attachment.sig>

From ajax at redhat.com  Thu May 14 14:26:16 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:26:16 -0400
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
In-Reply-To: <4A0B5F89.3020709@gmail.com>
References: <692653.39723.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1242229872.21675.150.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<4A0B5F89.3020709@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242311176.21675.237.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 18:02 -0600, Kevin DeKorte wrote:

> I have an ATI 3650 card, and the kernel-2.6.29.3-140.fc11.x86_64 fails
> to boot, but kernel-2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64 works fine.. from
> /var/log/messages I see this
> 
> So, I would pull kernel -140 or issue a new one with the fix

Can you test -128 and -129 from koji?  Those are the only two between
-126 and -140 that have radeon changes, afaict.

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090514/0b1d78d9/attachment.sig>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Thu May 14 14:30:46 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:30:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
In-Reply-To: <1242311176.21675.237.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <692653.39723.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1242229872.21675.150.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<4A0B5F89.3020709@gmail.com>
	<1242311176.21675.237.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141026440.26008@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 14 May 2009, Adam Jackson wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 18:02 -0600, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
>
> > I have an ATI 3650 card, and the kernel-2.6.29.3-140.fc11.x86_64 fails
> > to boot, but kernel-2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64 works fine.. from
> > /var/log/messages I see this
> >
> > So, I would pull kernel -140 or issue a new one with the fix
>
> Can you test -128 and -129 from koji?  Those are the only two
> between -126 and -140 that have radeon changes, afaict.

  i'm currently running -129 and i can tell you that it doesn't work
with the current radeon driver.  to get a desktop, i have to boot with
"nomodeset" and use the "vesa" driver, which gives me only 1024x768
on my 1280x800 display.  i've been down that road quite a lot lately,
as i've mentioned before:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495208

  if something's changed lately so that it's worth testing upgrading
and trying again, i'm willing to give it a shot, but it wouldn't be
worth it if none of the enhancements or bug fixes tried to address
this issue.

rday
--


========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From lists at dresco.co.uk  Thu May 14 15:12:21 2009
From: lists at dresco.co.uk (Jon Escombe)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:12:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
Message-ID: <loom.20090514T151057-513@post.gmane.org>

I can confirm that .129 is the revision that breaks for me. I'm booting with
nomodeset as per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500801

Regards,
Jon



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu May 14 15:24:16 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:24:16 -0400
Subject: tigervnc gnome theme problem
In-Reply-To: <ff277c2e0905140144x795cdc12o882f7d15c4af864a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff277c2e0905140144x795cdc12o882f7d15c4af864a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242314656.6793.208.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 16:44 +0800, aaron lwe wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've got a problem while using vnc to view a fedora 11 hosted gnome
> desktop, the gnome theme isn't what I chose but nodoka. If I open the
> appearance dialogbox from system->preference, the gnome theme
> instantly changed to what I selected no matter which tab of this
> dialogbox activated. And when I close the dialogbox, the theme changed
> back to nodoka. If I did this a second time, a crash about
> notification-daemon will happen. I've attached the crash report. There
> is no problem while loging on locally.
> 
> The vnc server runs on fedora 11 with
> tigervnc-server-0.0.90-0.7.20090427svn3789.fc11.i586, kernel
> 2.6.29.3-140.fc11.i586. The vnc client runs on fedora 10 with vnc
> vnc-4.1.3-1.fc10.i386.
> 
> Anyone has the same problem?

Out of curiousity, are you seeing Bug#497592 (vncserver desktop error
message of "could not acquire name on session bus")?

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090514/24eb27a7/attachment.sig>

From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 14 15:34:45 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:34:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090514 changes
Message-ID: <20090514153445.A75411F8209@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Thu May 14 06:15:05 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

anaconda-11.5.0.52-1.fc11
-------------------------
* Wed May 13 2009 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.5.0.52-1
- Add a Mac OS boot line to yaboot.conf (#499964). (clumens)
- Catch IOError when enabling repos (#500439). (clumens)
- Use a newer version of the kickstart Partition command. (clumens)
- Fix a traceback when installing over previous installs on PPC (#499963).
  (clumens)
- Fix a typo when probing exception disks. (clumens)
- Add support for --noformat too. (clumens)
- Add support for --onpart, --ondrive, and --useexisting. (clumens)
- Make the storage.writeKS method useful and called from instdata (#493703).
  (clumens)
- Add writeKS methods to the device objects. (clumens)
- Add writeKS methods to all the format objects. (clumens)
- upd-instroot: Add gdbserver (ajax)
- Remove text-mode syslinux help (katzj)
- If clearPartType is None, don't attempt to clear a device (#499321).
  (clumens)
- Only set clearpart data if the command was provided in the kickstart file.
  (clumens)
- Override previously defined mountpoints in kickstart (#499746). (clumens)
- Yet another font package name has changed (#499322). (clumens)
- Set new mountpoint correctly for existing encrypted LVs. (#496363)
  (dlehman)
- Once a partition is part of another device it cannot be modified.
  (#496760) (dlehman)
- Maintain request sort order by using req_disks instead of parents.
  (dlehman)
- Do not set a parent on the /mnt/sysimage/dev bind mount object (#499724).
  (clumens)
- Skip .pyc files in subdirectories when running make updates. (clumens)
- Remove 'lowres' option. (ajax)
- Run tune2fs on newly formatted ext[34] filesystems. (#495476) (dlehman)


fedora-release-notes-11.0.0-2.fc11
----------------------------------
* Wed May 13 2009 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com> - 11.0.0-2
- Fix homepage content

* Thu May 07 2009 John J. McDonough <jjmcd at fedoraproject.org> - 11.0.0-1
- Update for Fedora 11 release candidate


gdm-2.26.1-10.fc11
------------------
* Wed May 13 2009 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 1:2.26.1-10
- Update multi-stack patch to fix bug 499272

* Fri May 08 2009 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 1:2.26.1-9
- Redo patch from -8 since patch misapplies the other one.

* Thu May 07 2009 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 1:2.26.1-8
- Hopefully fix bug 499272 (weird behavior when typing
  init 3 from within the session)


gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-5.fc11
-----------------------------------
* Wed May 13 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.26.1-5
- Enable touchpad edge scrolling by default


gupnp-tools-0.7.1-3.fc11
------------------------
* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.7.1-1
- New upstream release

* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.7.1-2
- Remove the glade files now that it uses GTKBuilder

* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.7.1-3
- and add the GTKBuilder replacements


java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-28.fc11
------------------------------
* Tue May 12 2009 Stepan Kasal <skasal at redhat.com> 1.5.0.0-28
- another attempt to rebuild, adding a workaround for #500314

* Fri Apr 03 2009 Karsten Hopp <karsten at redhat.com> 1.5.0.0-27
- update workaround patch to fix rebuild problems

* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.5.0.0-26
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild


kpackagekit-0.4.0-7.fc11
------------------------
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Luk???? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 0.4.0-7
- upstream patch to fix catalog loading (#493061)


ruby-RMagick-2.9.1-3.fc11
-------------------------
* Thu May 14 2009 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 2.9.1-3
- F-11: Rebuild against new ImageMagick
- Make ImageMagick requirement very strict (bug 500565)


scipy-0.7.0-3.fc11
------------------
* Tue Apr 07 2009 Jef Spaleta <jspaleta at fedoraproject.org> - 0.7.0-3
- Add f2py requires to prepared for numpy packaging split


sunbird-1.0-0.3.20090302hg.fc11
-------------------------------
* Tue May 12 2009 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> - 1.0-0.3.20090302hg
- Fix migration window size (0x0 is considered too small by some) (#499346)


system-config-printer-1.1.7-4.fc11
----------------------------------
* Wed May 13 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1.1.7-4
- Changed requirement on notification-daemon to
  desktop-notification-daemon to allow for other implementations
  (bug #500587).

* Tue Apr 21 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 1.1.7-2
- Move files required by system-config-printer-kde to -libs (#496646)

* Tue Apr 21 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1.1.7-3
- Moved them back again, as they are not part of the exported
  interface (bug #496808).


thunderbird-3.0-2.3.beta2.fc11
------------------------------
* Wed May 13 2009 Christopher Aillon <caillon at redhat.com> - 3.0-2.3
- Fix startup crash when imap server sends list response with trailing delimiter

* Mon Mar 30 2009 Jan Horak <jhorak at redhat.com> - 3.0-2.2.beta2
- Fixed open-browser.sh to use xdg-open instead of gnome-open


yakuake-2.9.4-3.fc11
--------------------
* Fri Apr 17 2009 Johan Cwiklinski <johan AT x-tnd DOT be>  2.9.4-3
- Fix crash with QT 4.5


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 13









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From poelstra at redhat.com  Thu May 14 15:45:56 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:45:56 -0700
Subject: drowning in alsa log messages
Message-ID: <4A0C3CB4.8020402@redhat.com>

I have the latest rawhide installed.  Soundcard is a SoundBlaster Live card

This message is hitting /var/log/messages ever 10 seconds...

May 14 08:36:43 yardsale kernel: ALSA sound/core/pcm_lib.c:166: BUG: 
stream = 0, pos = 0x2000, buffer size = 0x2000, period size = 0x2000
May 14 08:36:43 yardsale kernel: ALSA sound/core/pcm_lib.c:166: BUG: 
stream = 0, pos = 0x2000, buffer size = 0x2000, period size = 0x2000
May 14 08:36:43 yardsale kernel: ALSA sound/core/pcm_lib.c:166: BUG: 
stream = 0, pos = 0x2000, buffer size = 0x2000, period size = 0x2000
May 14 08:36:43 yardsale kernel: ALSA sound/core/pcm_lib.c:166: BUG: 
stream = 0, pos = 0x2000, buffer size = 0x2000, period size = 0x2000
May 14 08:36:44 yardsale kernel: ALSA sound/core/pcm_lib.c:166: BUG: 
stream = 0, pos = 0x2000, buffer size = 0x2000, period size = 0x2000
May 14 08:36:44 yardsale kernel: ALSA sound/core/pcm_lib.c:166: BUG: 
stream = 0, pos = 0x2000, buffer size = 0x2000, period size = 0x2000

1) How to disable error messages?

2) Suggested workarounds to make sound work?

Thanks,
John




From lists at dresco.co.uk  Thu May 14 15:57:40 2009
From: lists at dresco.co.uk (Jon Escombe)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:57:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
Message-ID: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>

I believe the problem is the removal of the OSS interface, as per the FAQ.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ

In F10 I used padsp to direct the output to pulseaudio, but that's not working
for me in F11 (and I'm not sure whether it's even supposed to given the
statements in the FAQ)?

ERROR: ld.so: object 'libpulsedsp.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded:
ignored.

Regards,
Jon.





From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 14 16:41:48 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:41:48 -0700
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
In-Reply-To: <606449.28852.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <606449.28852.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1242319308.2923.919.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 17:38 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:

> I just tried to update that machine.  I shut it down and I tried to
> restart and that is what I get.  It runs windows Ok, so I conclude
> that some update broke it.  Ram is fine, why?  Windows does not
> complain.  Disk is fine, why?  Windows does not complain and disk does
> not screech/scratch/ or output weird sounds.  This is one of the
> machines that the little annoying program said that one or more hard
> disks are failing by the way :(, It was working, it worked since late
> March and before.  Can the disk really be failing? only on the Fedora
> side and not on the Windows Side?  This would be really sad and I
> would get feelings to just nuke Fedora and leave the evil empire
> installed to the whole disk and hope that it truly fails and then I
> can conclude that the utility was right and apologize to all for
> doubting "One or more hard disks are failing" :(, but the laws of
> probability tell me otherwise.  I have a hard drive that
> scratches/screams/(I can hear sounds
>  coming from it) for 3 years and it is still running ?  This is a
> weird case, till that happens in this disks case, I will conclude that
> the utility was right, but for now it is wrong and this system is
> indeed nuked, how sad :(

Sorry, looks like I was wrong there - by the other comments it is just a
bug in the kernel. I was fooled by the error messages (they're usually
the kind you get when something's *really* broken).
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil  Thu May 14 16:47:18 2009
From: stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil (Stephen Berg (Contractor))
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:47:18 -0500
Subject: Kickstart partitioning
Message-ID: <N9FtfYaFo0dJwk7VW2skYhW7RNapuS9gfYuSdzp9KDU@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>

I've been fighting to get a network install kickstart set up for F11 and 
the partitioning is just plain not working as advertised so far.  The 
kickstarts I've been using for FC6, F9 and F10 all worked great, but I 
found out yesterday that F11 removed the --start and --end flags for 
partitions so that messed me up.  Now when I use the following lines the 
system complains about no partition for pv.00 or something like that.

Is there someplace I can find documentation for the Fedora 11 syntax on 
kickstart files?  The draft I was reading says it's for Fedora 11 but I 
can see that it's not up to date with the current Preview release.  
(Still says that --start and --end should work.)

Here's how I'm trying to set things up...

# Clear out any existing partitioning
zerombr
clearpart --all

#Create one partition on each disk to become /boot on RAID1 ext3
part raid.11 --asprimary --ondisk=sda --size 100
part raid.12 --asprimary --ondisk=sdb --size 100
part raid.13 --asprimary --ondisk=sdc --size 100
part raid.14 --asprimary --ondisk=sdd --size 100
raid /boot  --device md1 --fstype ext3 --level=RAID1 raid.11 raid.12 
raid.13 raid.14

#Create one partition on each disk to become swap on RAID10
part  raid.21 --asprimary --ondisk=sda --size 16384
part  raid.22 --asprimary --ondisk=sdb --size 16384
part  raid.23 --asprimary --ondisk=sdc --size 16384
part  raid.24 --asprimary --ondisk=sdd --size 16384
raid swap  --device md2 --fstype swap --level=RAID10 raid.21 raid.22 
raid.23 raid.24

#Create one partition on each disk to become a system volume group on 
RAID5 ext3
part raid.31 --asprimary --ondisk=sda --size 10240
part raid.32 --asprimary --ondisk=sdb --size 10240
part raid.33 --asprimary --ondisk=sdc --size 10240
part raid.34 --asprimary --ondisk=sdd --size 10240
raid pv.00  --device=md0 --fstype ext3 --level=RAID5 raid.31 raid.32 
raid.33 raid.34

#Setup the system volume group, a / logical volume and a /var logical volume
volgroup pv.00 --pesize=32768 system
logvol / --name=slash --vgname=system --percent=85
logvol /var --name=var --vgname=system --percent=15


-- 
Stephen Berg
Systems Administrator
NRL Code: 7321
Office: 228-688-5738
stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil 



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 14 16:48:03 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:48:03 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090514164803.BEFDC10F897@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    thunderbird-3.0-0.5.b3pre.hg.6a6386c16e98.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 thunderbird-3.0-0.5.b3pre.hg.6a6386c16e98.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4974)
 Mozilla Thunderbird mail/newsgroup client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Help shape Thunderbird 3. And help trunk testers who help us by reporting bugs.
See the Thunderbird test day wiki page for more details:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-05-14
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Christopher Aillon <caillon at redhat.com> - 3.0-0.5
- 3.0pre3 nightly for test day
* Mon Mar 30 2009 Jan Horak <jhorak at redhat.com> - 3.0-0.4
- Fixed open-browser.sh to use xdg-open instead of gnome-open
* Mon Mar 23 2009 Christopher Aillon <caillon at redhat.com> - 3.0-0.3
- Disable the default app nag dialog
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 14 16:48:03 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:48:03 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090514164803.C794B10F899@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    thunderbird-3.0-0.5.b3pre.hg.6a6386c16e98.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 thunderbird-3.0-0.5.b3pre.hg.6a6386c16e98.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4973)
 Mozilla Thunderbird mail/newsgroup client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Help shape Thunderbird 3. And help trunk testers who help us by reporting bugs.
See the Thunderbird test day wiki page for more details:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-05-14
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Christopher Aillon <caillon at redhat.com> - 3.0-0.5
- 3.0pre3 nightly for test day
* Mon Mar 30 2009 Jan Horak <jhorak at redhat.com> - 3.0-0.4
- Fixed open-browser.sh to use xdg-open instead of gnome-open
* Mon Mar 23 2009 Christopher Aillon <caillon at redhat.com> - 3.0-0.3
- Disable the default app nag dialog
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 14 16:48:03 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:48:03 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090514164803.C381310F898@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    thunderbird-3.0-2.4.b3pre.hg.6a6386c16e98.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 thunderbird-3.0-2.4.b3pre.hg.6a6386c16e98.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4975)
 Mozilla Thunderbird mail/newsgroup client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Help shape Thunderbird 3. And help trunk testers who help us by reporting bugs.
See the Thunderbird test day wiki page for more details:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-05-14
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From james_j_catchpole at yahoo.com  Thu May 14 16:50:19 2009
From: james_j_catchpole at yahoo.com (James J Catchpole)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:50:19 -0400
Subject: kernel-PAE-2.6.29.3-140.fc11.i686  Boot Failure
In-Reply-To: <20090514160017.55EDE61A376@hormel.redhat.com>
References: <20090514160017.55EDE61A376@hormel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A0C4BCB.1060704@yahoo.com>

After upgrading to the subject kernel my Thinkpad-T60 failed
during the boot process. Following is a copy of the current
grub.conf that backs off to kernel-PAE-2.6.29.2-126.fc11.i686.

default=0
timeout=0
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
#title Fedora (2.6.29.3-140.fc11.i686.PAE)
# root (hd0,0)
# kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.3-140.fc11.i686.PAE ro 
root=/dev/mapper/vg_jjct60-lv_root rhgb quiet nomodeset
#    initrd /initrd-2.6.29.3-140.fc11.i686.PAE.img
title Fedora (2.6.29.2-126.fc11.i686.PAE)
    root (hd0,0)
    kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.2-126.fc11.i686.PAE ro 
root=/dev/mapper/vg_jjct60-lv_root rhgb quiet nomodeset
    initrd /initrd-2.6.29.2-126.fc11.i686.PAE.img
title Fedora (2.6.29.1-111.fc11.i686.PAE)
     root (hd0,0)
     kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.1-111.fc11.i686.PAE ro 
root=/dev/mapper/vg_jjct60-lv_root rhgb quiet nomodeset
     initrd /initrd-2.6.29.1-111.fc11.i686.PAE.img


-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090514/ba6b0ddd/attachment.htm>

From craigwhite at azapple.com  Thu May 14 17:32:12 2009
From: craigwhite at azapple.com (Craig White)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:32:12 -0700
Subject: Kickstart partitioning
In-Reply-To: <N9FtfYaFo0dJwk7VW2skYhW7RNapuS9gfYuSdzp9KDU@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
References: <N9FtfYaFo0dJwk7VW2skYhW7RNapuS9gfYuSdzp9KDU@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
Message-ID: <1242322332.17364.4.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 11:47 -0500, Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:
> I've been fighting to get a network install kickstart set up for F11 and 
> the partitioning is just plain not working as advertised so far.  The 
> kickstarts I've been using for FC6, F9 and F10 all worked great, but I 
> found out yesterday that F11 removed the --start and --end flags for 
> partitions so that messed me up.  Now when I use the following lines the 
> system complains about no partition for pv.00 or something like that.
> 
> Is there someplace I can find documentation for the Fedora 11 syntax on 
> kickstart files?  The draft I was reading says it's for Fedora 11 but I 
> can see that it's not up to date with the current Preview release.  
> (Still says that --start and --end should work.)
> 
> Here's how I'm trying to set things up...
> 
> # Clear out any existing partitioning
> zerombr
> clearpart --all
> 
> #Create one partition on each disk to become /boot on RAID1 ext3
> part raid.11 --asprimary --ondisk=sda --size 100
> part raid.12 --asprimary --ondisk=sdb --size 100
> part raid.13 --asprimary --ondisk=sdc --size 100
> part raid.14 --asprimary --ondisk=sdd --size 100
> raid /boot  --device md1 --fstype ext3 --level=RAID1 raid.11 raid.12 
> raid.13 raid.14
> 
> #Create one partition on each disk to become swap on RAID10
> part  raid.21 --asprimary --ondisk=sda --size 16384
> part  raid.22 --asprimary --ondisk=sdb --size 16384
> part  raid.23 --asprimary --ondisk=sdc --size 16384
> part  raid.24 --asprimary --ondisk=sdd --size 16384
> raid swap  --device md2 --fstype swap --level=RAID10 raid.21 raid.22 
> raid.23 raid.24
> 
> #Create one partition on each disk to become a system volume group on 
> RAID5 ext3
> part raid.31 --asprimary --ondisk=sda --size 10240
> part raid.32 --asprimary --ondisk=sdb --size 10240
> part raid.33 --asprimary --ondisk=sdc --size 10240
> part raid.34 --asprimary --ondisk=sdd --size 10240
> raid pv.00  --device=md0 --fstype ext3 --level=RAID5 raid.31 raid.32 
> raid.33 raid.34
> 
> #Setup the system volume group, a / logical volume and a /var logical volume
> volgroup pv.00 --pesize=32768 system
> logvol / --name=slash --vgname=system --percent=85
> logvol /var --name=var --vgname=system --percent=15
----
not that this answers your question but are you sure your 4 part /boot
is supposed to be RAID1 and not RAID10? I've never had a mirror that was
other than a 1:1 and it may actually be possible but I've never heard of
or considered such a setup.

Craig


-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
believed to be clean.



From stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil  Thu May 14 17:45:20 2009
From: stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil (Stephen Berg (Contractor))
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:45:20 -0500
Subject: Kickstart partitioning
In-Reply-To: <1242322332.17364.4.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>
References: <N9FtfYaFo0dJwk7VW2skYhW7RNapuS9gfYuSdzp9KDU@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>
	<1242322332.17364.4.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>
Message-ID: <BTHDO5VmiNwzs_qadfaIS5n7xBqLf7bd4_fAWDaICBjx_AO_5Akf1Q@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>

Craig White wrote:
> not that this answers your question but are you sure your 4 part /boot
> is supposed to be RAID1 and not RAID10? I've never had a mirror that was
> other than a 1:1 and it may actually be possible but I've never heard of
> or considered such a setup.
>   
I've got quite a few systems set up that way.  It's overkill, but it 
keeps the partitioning consistent across all four drives. 

-- 
Stephen Berg
Systems Administrator
NRL Code: 7321
Office: 228-688-5738
stephen.berg.ctr at nrlssc.navy.mil 



From achrisjo at yahoo.com  Thu May 14 18:02:02 2009
From: achrisjo at yahoo.com (Arne Chr. Jorgensen)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:02:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: what is it with bugzilla ?
Message-ID: <12744.17597.qm@web63701.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


hi,

I notice ATI is discussed, but guess it may be F11. I am running F10,
Radeon X1200, ... ( I have messed up a bug report 496954 ) 

Question:  

I can read the list email in Firefox, ( and so far it
seem like I will be able to write this input )  But if I load any
page from bugzilla , it is costing an arm and a leg to try to control
this computer. ( have have to power-down, as things are stuck, unable to
control pointer, etc. But now I just tried youtube, and that worked )

Are bugzilla pages particular heavy to run, because of ?? what ???!

//ARNE






From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu May 14 18:07:04 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:07:04 -0400
Subject: Thunderbird 3 Test Day TODAY
Message-ID: <1242324424.6793.226.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

Greetings folks,

Apologies for the late notice, but word just came in that there is a
Thunderbird 3 test event today.  Packages are provided for Fedora 9
through Fedora 11.  

Any thunderbird users/testers interested in participating are welcome to
join the event over at
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-05-14.

Thanks,
James

-------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Thunderbird 3 Test Day, TODAY
> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:47:51 -0700
> 
> Mozilla is having a Linux test day for Thunderbird 3 today, May 14, 2009.
> 
> The good news is that the test day is happening with distro-built 
> packages.  The better news is that I've prepared Thunderbird 3 snapshot 
> packages not only for Fedora 11, but also Fedora 10 and even Fedora 9, 
> so you can help test without upgrading!
> 
> Download a build and join us on IRC at irc.mozilla.org, #bugday
> 
> More details and builds are available here:
> 
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-05-14
> 
> Apologies for the late notice, but this got decided on last minute.
> 
> Hope to see folks there.  Happy testing.
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090514/40d7ba51/attachment.sig>

From mike at cchtml.com  Thu May 14 18:18:24 2009
From: mike at cchtml.com (Michael Cronenworth)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:18:24 -0500
Subject: Thunderbird 3 Test Day TODAY
In-Reply-To: <1242324424.6793.226.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1242324424.6793.226.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A0C6070.5010709@cchtml.com>

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Thunderbird 3 Test Day TODAY
From: James Laska <jlaska at redhat.com>
To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
Date: 05/14/2009 01:07 PM

> Greetings folks,
> 
> Apologies for the late notice, but word just came in that there is a
> Thunderbird 3 test event today.  Packages are provided for Fedora 9
> through Fedora 11.  
> 
> Any thunderbird users/testers interested in participating are welcome to
> join the event over at
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-05-14.

After that -devel thread I think we should hear from the following:

Stephen Gallagher
Bernie Innocenti
Sean Darcy
Nathan Grennan

These folks reported issues with 3.0b2. Some louder than others. If you 
want your issues fixed, now is the time to participate in a test day.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Thu May 14 18:21:35 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:21:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: missing dependency:  openssl
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141420580.1981@localhost.localdomain>


# yum update
Loaded plugins: allowdowngrade, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package openconnect.x86_64 0:1.30-1.fc11 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 for package:
openconnect
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 is needed by package
openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
Error: Missing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 is needed by package
openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
 You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
                        package-cleanup --dupes
                        rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
#

  i'm just sayin'.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Thu May 14 18:44:01 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:44:01 -0600
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 15:57 +0000, Jon Escombe wrote:
> I believe the problem is the removal of the OSS interface, as per the FAQ.
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ
> 
> In F10 I used padsp to direct the output to pulseaudio, but that's not working
> for me in F11 (and I'm not sure whether it's even supposed to given the
> statements in the FAQ)?
> 
> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libpulsedsp.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded:
> ignored.
> 
> Rega

OK- Thanks! This makes sense. I'm going to try a secondary route:

OSS --> ALSA --> Pulse Audio

If I can get something wanting to use OSS to use an OSS to ALSA plugin,
and then have that, in turn, route to Pulse Audio, maybe I can get
Workstation to make some noise.

Will get back to this list with results...

Cheers,

Chris

--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Thu May 14 18:49:39 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:19:39 -0430
Subject: what is it with bugzilla ?
In-Reply-To: <12744.17597.qm@web63701.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <12744.17597.qm@web63701.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1242326979.1277.0.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 11:02 -0700, Arne Chr. Jorgensen wrote:
> I notice ATI is discussed, but guess it may be F11. I am running F10,

So you're on the wrong list.

Again.

poc



From tmraz at redhat.com  Thu May 14 18:55:52 2009
From: tmraz at redhat.com (Tomas Mraz)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:55:52 +0200
Subject: missing dependency:  openssl
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141420580.1981@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141420580.1981@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242327352.20401.123.camel@vespa.frost.loc>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 14:21 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> # yum update
> Loaded plugins: allowdowngrade, refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Update Process
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package openconnect.x86_64 0:1.30-1.fc11 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 for package:
> openconnect
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 is needed by package
> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
> Error: Missing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 is needed by package
> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
>  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
>  You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
>                         package-cleanup --dupes
>                         rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> #
> 
>   i'm just sayin'.

Next push of stable updates will solve that.

-- 
Tomas Mraz
No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back.
                                              Turkish proverb



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 14 18:57:02 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:57:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: missing dependency: openssl
In-Reply-To: <1242327352.20401.123.camel@vespa.frost.loc>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141420580.1981@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242327352.20401.123.camel@vespa.frost.loc>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141456340.21522@localhost.localdomain>



On Thu, 14 May 2009, Tomas Mraz wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 14:21 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>> # yum update
>> Loaded plugins: allowdowngrade, refresh-packagekit
>> Setting up Update Process
>> Resolving Dependencies
>> --> Running transaction check
>> ---> Package openconnect.x86_64 0:1.30-1.fc11 set to be updated
>> --> Processing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 for package:
>> openconnect
>> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
>> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems
>>   --> Missing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 is needed by package
>> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
>> Error: Missing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 is needed by package
>> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
>>  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
>>  You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
>>                         package-cleanup --dupes
>>                         rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
>> #
>>
>>   i'm just sayin'.
>
> Next push of stable updates will solve that.

Next push of stable updates to F11??

So this will be a broken dep out of the box on F11-GA?

-sv



From tmraz at redhat.com  Thu May 14 19:08:44 2009
From: tmraz at redhat.com (Tomas Mraz)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:08:44 +0200
Subject: missing dependency: openssl
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141456340.21522@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141420580.1981@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242327352.20401.123.camel@vespa.frost.loc>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141456340.21522@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242328124.20401.125.camel@vespa.frost.loc>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 14:57 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 14 May 2009, Tomas Mraz wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 14:21 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >> # yum update
> >> Loaded plugins: allowdowngrade, refresh-packagekit
> >> Setting up Update Process
> >> Resolving Dependencies
> >> --> Running transaction check
> >> ---> Package openconnect.x86_64 0:1.30-1.fc11 set to be updated
> >> --> Processing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 for package:
> >> openconnect
> >> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> >> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems
> >>   --> Missing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 is needed by package
> >> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
> >> Error: Missing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 is needed by package
> >> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
> >>  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
> >>  You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
> >>                         package-cleanup --dupes
> >>                         rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> >> #
> >>
> >>   i'm just sayin'.
> >
> > Next push of stable updates will solve that.
> 
> Next push of stable updates to F11??
> 
> So this will be a broken dep out of the box on F11-GA?
 --> Finished Dependency Resolution
 openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems
                                     ^^^^^^^

-- 
Tomas Mraz
No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back.
                                              Turkish proverb



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 14 19:10:29 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:10:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: missing dependency: openssl
In-Reply-To: <1242328124.20401.125.camel@vespa.frost.loc>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141420580.1981@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242327352.20401.123.camel@vespa.frost.loc>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141456340.21522@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242328124.20401.125.camel@vespa.frost.loc>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141510090.21522@localhost.localdomain>



On Thu, 14 May 2009, Tomas Mraz wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 14:57 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 14 May 2009, Tomas Mraz wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 14:21 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>>> # yum update
>>>> Loaded plugins: allowdowngrade, refresh-packagekit
>>>> Setting up Update Process
>>>> Resolving Dependencies
>>>> --> Running transaction check
>>>> ---> Package openconnect.x86_64 0:1.30-1.fc11 set to be updated
>>>> --> Processing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 for package:
>>>> openconnect
>>>> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
>>>> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems
>>>>   --> Missing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 is needed by package
>>>> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
>>>> Error: Missing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 is needed by package
>>>> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
>>>>  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
>>>>  You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
>>>>                         package-cleanup --dupes
>>>>                         rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
>>>> #
>>>>
>>>>   i'm just sayin'.
>>>
>>> Next push of stable updates will solve that.
>>
>> Next push of stable updates to F11??
>>
>> So this will be a broken dep out of the box on F11-GA?
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems
>                                     ^^^^^^^

Tomas,
  Sorry, I completely see what you mean, now. :)

-sv



From mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de  Thu May 14 19:10:22 2009
From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:10:22 +0200
Subject: missing dependency: openssl
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141456340.21522@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141420580.1981@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242327352.20401.123.camel@vespa.frost.loc>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141456340.21522@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090514211022.4f3958e1@faldor.intranet>

On Thu, 14 May 2009 14:57:02 -0400 (EDT), Seth wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 14 May 2009, Tomas Mraz wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 14:21 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >> # yum update
> >> Loaded plugins: allowdowngrade, refresh-packagekit
> >> Setting up Update Process
> >> Resolving Dependencies
> >> --> Running transaction check
> >> ---> Package openconnect.x86_64 0:1.30-1.fc11 set to be updated
> >> --> Processing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 for package:
> >> openconnect
> >> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> >> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems
> >>   --> Missing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 is needed by package
> >> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
> >> Error: Missing Dependency: openssl >= 0.9.8k-4 is needed by package
> >> openconnect-1.30-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
> >>  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
> >>  You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
> >>                         package-cleanup --dupes
> >>                         rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> >> #
> >>
> >>   i'm just sayin'.
> >
> > Next push of stable updates will solve that.
> 
> Next push of stable updates to F11??
> 
> So this will be a broken dep out of the box on F11-GA?

Skipped updates-testing once again:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-4946



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 14 19:18:39 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:18:39 -0700
Subject: Bug workflow page revised
In-Reply-To: <1241808823.2923.524.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1241630879.2923.464.camel@adam.local.net>
	<571dcba60905061558h798615efy92867111f7323332@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241808823.2923.524.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1242328719.2923.925.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 11:53 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> Progress report:
> 
> indeed, the updates bot currently closes bugs for which an update is
> released in a stable Fedora as 'NEXTRELEASE'. Per the RHEL definitions,
> this is clearly wrong: NEXTRELEASE is meant to be used for, say, a bug
> that's reported in RHEL 5.3 but fixed in RHEL 5.4 (and which won't ever
> be fixed in RHEL 5.3).

> So I still think the best solution is my original one, bugs closed by
> the release of official Fedora updates should be closed as ERRATA. For
> RHEL, ERRATA means "The problem described has been fixed and will be
> available as an errata update from our support web site. Please check
> the site to see if it is currently available for download."; that's
> pretty compatible with "We've released an official Fedora update that
> fixes the bug".

Since no-one seemed to object, I filed a ticket for Bodhi to switch to
ERRATA:

https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/320
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 14 19:25:53 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:25:53 -0700
Subject: Please help smoke test Fedora 11 installation!
Message-ID: <1242329153.2923.929.camel@adam.local.net>

Hi, everyone! As you no doubt are aware, we're getting close to the
final release of Fedora 11. For anyone who has the time, it would be
really useful to get some final smoke testing of the installer. If you
have some spare time and disk space - either on a real system, or a
virtual one - please take an hour or two to run an installation of
Rawhide, using the network installation method, and make sure it
completes without any really serious problems. We're particularly
interested in problems at the partitioning stage, since the storage
rewrite was the biggest and most problematic change in the installer for
Fedora 11.

Even if you have a slow connection and don't have time to complete the
installation, you can get to and through the partitioning stage
relatively quickly, and that's very valuable testing (we need to test it
on as many different disks, layouts, LVM / RAID setups etc as possible).

If you do encounter any problems, please file a bug, but also mail the
list so the bug can be reviewed to see if it should go onto the blocker
list for final release. At this point we're mostly looking for really
serious stuff, and regressions from the preview release in particular.
Official guidance from the Anaconda folks: "Any bugs introduced since
F-11-Beta that also are data corrupters, panics, failures to install in
"reasonable" configuration"

There's a test matrix on the Wiki where you can report results:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC_Install_Test_Results

It works backwards to most test day setups: instead of you looking at
the test cases and picking which to run, you should just run an install,
and if you hit problems, look through the list of test cases to figure
out which one it's appropriate to send your report to. Hopefully the
list of test cases covers all scenarios :)

Thanks, everyone!
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Thu May 14 19:37:40 2009
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike Cloaked)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: KDE4.3 and F11?
Message-ID: <23547542.post@talk.nabble.com>



When KDE 4.3 come out in July will there be an update to this version in
F11?
-- 
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/KDE4.3-and-F11--tp23547542p23547542.html
Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 14 19:57:25 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:57:25 -0700
Subject: BugZappers New Member SOP
In-Reply-To: <4A033DC1.9080504@gmail.com>
References: <4A02E57E.4020304@gmail.com>
	<1241718376.23133.26.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4A03276A.9030504@gmail.com> <1241723589.2923.501.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A033DC1.9080504@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242331045.2923.932.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:00 -0400, TK009 wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> >  I'll see if I can tweak it a bit.
> >   
> Thanks

I wound up revising it quite a lot :)

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/sop_new_member

it's now a bit more explicit, and it covers the procedure for both the
applicant and the administrator. Hope it's OK.

I also revised the Joining page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Joining

to explain the introductory email process to applicants. So the
information on that page should still be sufficient, alone, to explain
how to sign up to the group - no need to actually read the SOP page.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 14 20:07:32 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:07:32 -0700
Subject: Revised draft of priority / severity mail to -devel list
In-Reply-To: <1241200827.2811.25.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1241200827.2811.25.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1242331652.2923.941.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 11:00 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hi, guys. Here's a revised draft of my proposed mail on the priority /
> severity issue to -devel-list. It addresses the points that have come up
> since the original draft (I think, I hope I didn't miss any) and adds
> Matej's alternative to the original proposal.
> 
> Does this look OK?

OK, so, follow-up on this:

Matej sent the draft to the devel list, where it died a quiet death. :)
Which is actually fine by me, since all we needed to hear from devs is
that it's not going to *hurt* them. And no-one complained.

So I reckon we should just go ahead and start setting priority /
severity, then see where we are in a few weeks, or at the end of F12
cycle. But we need to pick either the Williamson / Beland Method
(triagers set both priority / severity), or the Cepl Method (triagers
set severity only). I don't really mind, I can go with either system.
Does anyone have a strong opinion either way? Votes? Thanks, guys!
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From drago01 at gmail.com  Thu May 14 20:17:38 2009
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:17:38 +0200
Subject: KDE4.3 and F11?
In-Reply-To: <23547542.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <23547542.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0905141317x55fd935pfdf7b39b4469d9d2@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Mike Cloaked <mike.cloaked at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> When KDE 4.3 come out in July will there be an update to this version in
> F11?

Well if the kde update policy does not change I would say yes.
The KDE SIG members can answer this for sure.



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Thu May 14 20:48:49 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:48:49 -0600
Subject: Full Install
Message-ID: <1242334129.2128.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>

As requested, I did a full install of F11 32 bit on my spare desktop
computer and never had problem.  I did do my first update at root.  I
find that once you get the foundation establish the rest goes up easy.
I recently install F11 64bit on my main Desktop and have had no problems
execpt the mouse choices and the already mention vmware shutdown and
sound.  Hopefully the sound problem has been solved. Two to go.  But
overall I personally think F11 is fast not only on the start and end,
but as you use it.  My hat is off to you and your hard work to keep
Fedora at the top.
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From bruno at wolff.to  Thu May 14 21:08:40 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:08:40 -0500
Subject: Some recent change broke livecd-creator for large images
Message-ID: <20090514210840.GA10019@wolff.to>

Rebuilding the games spin isn't working locally for me. It looks like
it isn't using the larger size requested in the part commands, but i haven't
figured out exactly what's broken and what changed (reverting live cd tools
back to a version that used to work didn't help).
The size of /home/livecd/tmp/imgcreate-bt_Oll/install_root is too small though.
I have to run now (without the updated DVDs I was hoping to have) and
don't have time to figure out exactly what's going on. But consider this a
heads up that the RC games spin might need a fix to get it to build if
this problem isn't also tied to something I am doing locally.



From achrisjo at yahoo.com  Thu May 14 21:34:31 2009
From: achrisjo at yahoo.com (Arne Chr. Jorgensen)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:34:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: what is it with bugzilla ?
Message-ID: <309150.82610.qm@web63707.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> > I notice ATI is discussed, but guess it may be F11. I am running F10,
>
> So you're on the wrong list.
>
> Again.
>
> poc

Is there some other list ?  I have not been aware that there is a
different list with builds w/APIC and wo/APIC.  I have followed this
list since Fedora was the first to have this hardware work in Fedora 6,
and for each build, a bit more has been supported. 

Either Fedora support this hardware, or it does not. If a separate list
exist, let me know. 

//ARNE



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Thu May 14 21:40:40 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:40:40 -0600
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
	<1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 12:44 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 15:57 +0000, Jon Escombe wrote:
> > I believe the problem is the removal of the OSS interface, as per the FAQ.
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ
> > 
> > In F10 I used padsp to direct the output to pulseaudio, but that's not working
> > for me in F11 (and I'm not sure whether it's even supposed to given the
> > statements in the FAQ)?
> > 
> > ERROR: ld.so: object 'libpulsedsp.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded:
> > ignored.
> > 
> > Rega
> 
> OK- Thanks! This makes sense. I'm going to try a secondary route:
> 
> OSS --> ALSA --> Pulse Audio
> 
> If I can get something wanting to use OSS to use an OSS to ALSA plugin,
> and then have that, in turn, route to Pulse Audio, maybe I can get
> Workstation to make some noise.
> 
> Will get back to this list with results...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris

...Well, so far no dice. I found a post on another forum on how to try
and force Workstation to use ALSA instead of OSS. I did the following:

installed the alsa-oss plugin (64-bit)
updated /etc/vmware/config with the line:
   preload = "/usr/lib64/libaoss.so

Didn't work. Any other ideas on how to make applications that demand
using OSS be able to output sound on F11?

Cheers,

Chris

--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Thu May 14 21:45:47 2009
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 03:15:47 +0530
Subject: Revised draft of priority / severity mail to -devel list
In-Reply-To: <1241200827.2811.25.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1241200827.2811.25.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <78323d480905141445y4cd1fd7bme558bf51e0daa21a@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> We have a draft convention for how these fields should be set here:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend#Severity_and_Priority .
> As you can see, it basically suggests that the severity field be used
> to rate the importance of the issue in the context only of the
> affected package, and priority be used to rate the importance of the
> issue in the context of the distribution as a whole.


With respect to what type of user?

The proposal has a big problem there.

Consider https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492005 for example

It is marked as a low priority bug of medium severity.

That does not seem correct for newbie users


A better way of specifying would be to have a third field for 'lowest
target user group'


Best

A. Mani


-- 
A. Mani
ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://amani.topcities.com



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Thu May 14 21:49:42 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:19:42 -0430
Subject: what is it with bugzilla ?
In-Reply-To: <309150.82610.qm@web63707.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <309150.82610.qm@web63707.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1242337782.2949.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 14:34 -0700, Arne Chr. Jorgensen wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > > I notice ATI is discussed, but guess it may be F11. I am running F10,
> >
> > So you're on the wrong list.
> >
> > Again.
> >
> > poc
> 
> Is there some other list ?  I have not been aware that there is a
> different list with builds w/APIC and wo/APIC.  I have followed this
> list since Fedora was the first to have this hardware work in Fedora 6,
> and for each build, a bit more has been supported. 
> 
> Either Fedora support this hardware, or it does not. If a separate list
> exist, let me know. 

You're missing the point. It's not about APIC or anything else. The To:
line of every message here says "For testers of Fedora Core development
releases". IOW, this is the list for *test* versions of Fedora, i.e.
Rawhide. The list for supported versions (currently F9 and F10) is
fedora-list at redhat.com.

After F11 comes out, this list will rapidly move to discussing the new
Rawhide, i.e. the future F12, and the other list will be appropriate for
F11.

Since you're asking about F10, you should do so on the other list. You
can obviously be on both of course, (just don't cross-post questions to
both.)

poc



From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us  Thu May 14 22:31:06 2009
From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:31:06 -0400
Subject: Anaconda turn of monitor on Radeon QD 7200 during install
Message-ID: <4A0C9BAA.7020901@wolves.durham.nc.us>

Don't know if the system will boot yet, doing a VNC install,

BUT

The loader runs and gets to starting anaconda-init, at which point the 
monitor *turns off*
Literally, the monitor switches off and displayes it's no signal message.

I have nomodeset on the boot command line in GRUB, soo I suspect that 
anaconda or the kernel are ignoring the nomodeset request.

Video card is a Radeon QD 7200 R100
The previous kernel didn't boot after freezing on DRM activation. Which 
was a regression from the .102 kernel.
Rawhide of 20090514 (today) on an i686.PAE box 1.5Go RAM

-- 
G.Wolfe Woodbury



From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us  Thu May 14 22:42:17 2009
From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:42:17 -0400
Subject: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception save
 opportunity
Message-ID: <4A0C9E49.7040007@wolves.durham.nc.us>

The VNC install failed quietly with the only culprit to finger being a 
python assertion error:

python: Modules/gcmodule.c:242: update_refs: Assertion\
   `gc->gc.gc.refs == (-3)' failed.

Then it simply kills the VNC and reports an installer error.

i686.pae machine
Radeon QD 7200 R100 video
1.5Go RAM
standard PATA disks, etc.

-- 
G.Wolfe Woodbury



From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us  Thu May 14 22:45:01 2009
From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:45:01 -0400
Subject: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception save
 opportunity
In-Reply-To: <4A0C9E49.7040007@wolves.durham.nc.us>
References: <4A0C9E49.7040007@wolves.durham.nc.us>
Message-ID: <4A0C9EED.80503@wolves.durham.nc.us>

G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> The VNC install failed quietly with the only culprit to finger being a 
> python assertion error:
> 
> python: Modules/gcmodule.c:242: update_refs: Assertion\
>   `gc->gc.gc.refs == (-3)' failed.
> 
> Then it simply kills the VNC and reports an installer error.
> 
> i686.pae machine
> Radeon QD 7200 R100 video
> 1.5Go RAM
> standard PATA disks, etc.
> 

This is a NFS network install from a fully updated local mirror.

-- 
G.Wolfe Woodbury



From peterbloomfield at bellsouth.net  Thu May 14 22:59:52 2009
From: peterbloomfield at bellsouth.net (Peter Bloomfield)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:59:52 -0400
Subject: X problems with Radeon X300
Message-ID: <1242341992.3633.3@t43.bellsouth.net>

Two problems have shown up running rawhide on a ThinkPad T43 with Mobility  
Radeon X300 video.  One is that resume fails with a blank screen and a  
non-responsive keyboard after many suspends--but that's something that  
comes and goes with releases of the ati driver.

The other is a mail agent that vanishes in a puff of smoke when switching  
mailboxes.  In gdb:

balsa: xcb_io.c:242: process_responses: Assertion `(((long)  
(dpy->last_request_read) - (long) (dpy->request)) <= 0)' failed.

with the backtrace

#4  0x018d7374 in process_responses (dpy=0x817ba00,
     wait_for_first_event=<value optimized out>, current_error=0x0,
     current_request=0) at xcb_io.c:242
#5  0x018d7c35 in _XEventsQueued (dpy=0x817ba00, mode=2) at xcb_io.c:256
#6  0x018c04a8 in XPending (dpy=0x817ba00) at Pending.c:56
#7  0x009b59c6 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
#8  0x05d53d79 in g_main_context_check () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#9  0x05d5454c in ?? () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#10 0x05d54caf in g_main_loop_run () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#11 0x002a78e9 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#12 0x0809df04 in main (argc=2, argv=0xbffff444) at main.c:1149

The errors go away if the MUA is run with --sync, or if the radeon driver  
is replaced by vesa--that is, if I cripple the display performance, one  
way or the other.  I'm not sure what product against which to file a  
bug--or has it already been filed--any suggestions?
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 190 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090514/1389479d/attachment.sig>

From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Thu May 14 23:51:39 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:51:39 -0700
Subject: squid
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905141651m5f595f79ua08738d760e2adb0@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

Does anyone know if and when squid-3.1* will be in Fedora???

Sincerely,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090514/8d323554/attachment.htm>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 15 00:46:03 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:46:03 -0700
Subject: Revised draft of priority / severity mail to -devel list
In-Reply-To: <78323d480905141445y4cd1fd7bme558bf51e0daa21a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1241200827.2811.25.camel@adam.local.net>
	<78323d480905141445y4cd1fd7bme558bf51e0daa21a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242348363.2923.943.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 03:15 +0530, Mani A wrote:
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > We have a draft convention for how these fields should be set here:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend#Severity_and_Priority .
> > As you can see, it basically suggests that the severity field be used
> > to rate the importance of the issue in the context only of the
> > affected package, and priority be used to rate the importance of the
> > issue in the context of the distribution as a whole.
> 
> 
> With respect to what type of user?
> 
> The proposal has a big problem there.
> 
> Consider https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492005 for example
> 
> It is marked as a low priority bug of medium severity.
> 
> That does not seem correct for newbie users
> 
> 
> A better way of specifying would be to have a third field for 'lowest
> target user group'

It's not the proposal's problem, that's just a general problem for
Fedora; no-one agrees what our target user should be. So for now, that's
always going to be a problem. We will have a guide for what issues
should be what levels once this goes live. For now you should ignore
priority / severity settings entirely, no-one is paying any attention to
them, there's no suggestion the current settings for any bug are
remotely correct (and medium/low is just the default, IIRC).
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From aaron.lwe at gmail.com  Fri May 15 01:17:21 2009
From: aaron.lwe at gmail.com (aaron lwe)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:17:21 +0800
Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 63, Issue 55
In-Reply-To: <20090514153500.C95ED61A2EA@hormel.redhat.com>
References: <20090514153500.C95ED61A2EA@hormel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <ff277c2e0905141817h1183f898pa86edd671aaa248a@mail.gmail.com>

> Out of curiousity, are you seeing Bug#497592 (vncserver desktop error
> message of "could not acquire name on session bus")?

No, I tried the advanced search in bugzilla, and didn't find the
tigervnc component then gived up.

I've just seen the bug report, but failed to realize it's same as
mine. My vnc session starts ok, only using a theme that's not chosen
by me.

Thanks,
Aaron



From aaron.lwe at gmail.com  Fri May 15 01:19:04 2009
From: aaron.lwe at gmail.com (aaron lwe)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:19:04 +0800
Subject: tigervnc gnome theme problem
Message-ID: <ff277c2e0905141819u21f8defch4442e765fbb23d92@mail.gmail.com>

> Out of curiousity, are you seeing Bug#497592 (vncserver desktop error
> message of "could not acquire name on session bus")?

No, I tried the advanced search in bugzilla, and didn't find the
tigervnc component then gived up.

I've just seen the bug report, but failed to realize it's same as
mine. My vnc session starts ok, only using a theme that's not chosen
by me.

Thanks,
Aaron



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Fri May 15 01:30:27 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:30:27 -0400
Subject: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception
	save opportunity
In-Reply-To: <4A0C9EED.80503@wolves.durham.nc.us>
References: <4A0C9E49.7040007@wolves.durham.nc.us>
	<4A0C9EED.80503@wolves.durham.nc.us>
Message-ID: <1242351027.14423.0.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

ggw,

Thanks for your report.  I'm not sure it will get to the right people
via the mailing list; you may want to post results on the wiki:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC_Install_Test_Results

-B.

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 18:45 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> > The VNC install failed quietly with the only culprit to finger being a 
> > python assertion error:
> > 
> > python: Modules/gcmodule.c:242: update_refs: Assertion\
> >   `gc->gc.gc.refs == (-3)' failed.
> > 
> > Then it simply kills the VNC and reports an installer error.
> > 
> > i686.pae machine
> > Radeon QD 7200 R100 video
> > 1.5Go RAM
> > standard PATA disks, etc.
> > 
> 
> This is a NFS network install from a fully updated local mirror.
> 
> -- 
> G.Wolfe Woodbury
> 



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Fri May 15 01:35:38 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:35:38 -0400
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
	<1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

According to the FAQ, VMWare should be using ALSA, and if not, that's a
bug which should be reported to the VMWare maintainers.  

-B.




From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Fri May 15 01:51:17 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:21:17 -0430
Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 63, Issue 55
In-Reply-To: <ff277c2e0905141817h1183f898pa86edd671aaa248a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090514153500.C95ED61A2EA@hormel.redhat.com>
	<ff277c2e0905141817h1183f898pa86edd671aaa248a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242352277.7724.3.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

Please don't reply to digests.

poc



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Fri May 15 03:19:21 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:19:21 -0600
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
	<1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242357561.4221.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 21:35 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> According to the FAQ, VMWare should be using ALSA, and if not, that's a
> bug which should be reported to the VMWare maintainers.  

Which FAQ? Can you provide a URL?

--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Fri May 15 03:23:35 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:23:35 -0600
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
	<1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242357815.4221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 21:35 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> According to the FAQ, VMWare should be using ALSA, and if not, that's a
> bug which should be reported to the VMWare maintainers.  

According to this article:

http://mike.magin.org/2009/01/08/using-alsa-for-sound-with-vmware-workstation-65-on-an-ubuntu-804-host/

VMware Workstation 6.5 still uses OSS by default, but you can force it
(in theory at least) to use ALSA. But this has not worked for me as yet.
I still can do some poking around in it.

Cheers,

Chris

--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From beland at alum.mit.edu  Fri May 15 03:31:02 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:31:02 -0400
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <1242357561.4221.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
	<1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242357561.4221.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242358262.14423.6.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 21:19 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 21:35 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> > According to the FAQ, VMWare should be using ALSA, and if not, that's a
> > bug which should be reported to the VMWare maintainers.  
> 
> Which FAQ? Can you provide a URL?

The one Jon mentioned was the one I was looking at:

> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ

-B.



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Fri May 15 03:44:49 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:44:49 -0400
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <1242357815.4221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
	<1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242357815.4221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242359090.14423.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 21:23 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> According to this article:
> 
> http://mike.magin.org/2009/01/08/using-alsa-for-sound-with-vmware-workstation-65-on-an-ubuntu-804-host/
> 
> VMware Workstation 6.5 still uses OSS by default, but you can force it
> (in theory at least) to use ALSA. But this has not worked for me as yet.
> I still can do some poking around in it.

It seems to me that the alsa-oss package's emulation should work pretty
much out of the box; I guess someone who is experiencing this problem
could file a bug there as well.

-B.



From kyle at mcmartin.ca  Fri May 15 04:10:30 2009
From: kyle at mcmartin.ca (Kyle McMartin)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:10:30 -0400
Subject: X does not work with ATI based machines
In-Reply-To: <4A0B5F89.3020709@gmail.com>
References: <692653.39723.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1242229872.21675.150.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<4A0B5F89.3020709@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090515041030.GA18732@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 06:02:17PM -0600, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
> > Which ATI cards?  They've made slightly more than one.
> > 
> 
> I have an ATI 3650 card, and the kernel-2.6.29.3-140.fc11.x86_64 fails
> to boot, but kernel-2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64 works fine.. from
> /var/log/messages I see this
> 
> So, I would pull kernel -140 or issue a new one with the fix
> 

The problem was in the X driver.

Try the 6.12.2-14 build of xorg-x11-drv-ati which should resolve
the issue.

Thanks, Kyle



From aaron.lwe at gmail.com  Fri May 15 04:58:36 2009
From: aaron.lwe at gmail.com (aaron lwe)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:58:36 +0800
Subject: tigervnc gnome theme problem
In-Reply-To: <ff277c2e0905141819u21f8defch4442e765fbb23d92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff277c2e0905141819u21f8defch4442e765fbb23d92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff277c2e0905142158j1ae9a9a3s2e99036b6e67f51d@mail.gmail.com>

>
> No, I tried the advanced search in bugzilla, and didn't find the
> tigervnc component then gived up.
>
> I've just seen the bug report, but failed to realize it's same as
> mine. My vnc session starts ok, only using a theme that's not chosen
> by me.
>

OK, I found the same issue when using ubuntu 9.04 as the vnc server.
According to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/344060,
it seems not a problem of fedora specific and it's caused by gnome
2.26.

Thanks,
Aaron



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri May 15 06:58:11 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 01:58:11 -0500
Subject: Some recent change broke livecd-creator for large images
In-Reply-To: <20090514210840.GA10019@wolff.to>
References: <20090514210840.GA10019@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <20090515065811.GA13901@wolff.to>

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 16:08:40 -0500,
  Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> Rebuilding the games spin isn't working locally for me. It looks like
> it isn't using the larger size requested in the part commands, but i haven't
> figured out exactly what's broken and what changed (reverting live cd tools
> back to a version that used to work didn't help).
> The size of /home/livecd/tmp/imgcreate-bt_Oll/install_root is too small though.

The problem is related to the latest pykickstart update. Comments suggest
that the format of the partition command changed and either it was broken
or the spin kickstart files needed to be updated to use the new format.
I don't know which yet.



From lists at dresco.co.uk  Fri May 15 06:56:57 2009
From: lists at dresco.co.uk (Jon Escombe)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:56:57 +0100
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <1242357815.4221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>	<1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242357815.4221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A0D1239.7080307@dresco.co.uk>

On 15/05/09 04:23, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 21:35 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
>> According to the FAQ, VMWare should be using ALSA, and if not, that's a
>> bug which should be reported to the VMWare maintainers.
>
> According to this article:
>
> http://mike.magin.org/2009/01/08/using-alsa-for-sound-with-vmware-workstation-65-on-an-ubuntu-804-host/
>
> VMware Workstation 6.5 still uses OSS by default, but you can force it
> (in theory at least) to use ALSA. But this has not worked for me as yet.
> I still can do some poking around in it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris

So in theory adding the  following line to /etc/vmware/config should use 
the pulseaudio wrapper instead, but unfortunately it didn't work either 
(I don't see the wrapper library even being loaded)...

preload "/usr/lib/libpulsedsp.so"

Regards.
Jon



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Fri May 15 08:45:45 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:45:45 +0300
Subject: preupgrade fc10 to fc11
Message-ID: <4A0D2BB9.3000501@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

I used preupgrade to upgrade my fc10 64 bit system to fc11. The bottom 
line is that it worked. But I have a question and some observations.

Is this the equivalent of an anaconda update. If it is, than this is 
confirmation of anaconda for my environment.

There were a few minor annoyances in the process.
    1) The screen went black because of inactivity - a little bit scary 
for an install process
    2) After installing all of the packages, the machine started 
"finishing" the process for many minutes. It would be nice to have some 
idea of what is happening or some idea of progress. For all that I could 
tell, it was in an infinite loop.
    3) Still too many fc10 holdovers

For some reason, on rebooting it didn't automount my ntfs partitions (or 
at least they didn't show up on the desktop) but it did let me mount 
them by drilling down from the Computer icon. This functionality seems 
to change rapidly, after some updates it automounts, after some it 
doesn't. What is the ultimate planned functionality?




From attilio.priolo at gmail.com  Fri May 15 11:45:04 2009
From: attilio.priolo at gmail.com (Attilio Priolo)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:45:04 +0200
Subject: Introduction
Message-ID: <50f528200905150445k648598c6v295b7e41c344a545@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

I'm very glad to join at Fedora Bug Zappers Team. I'm using fedora since the
old-fashioned (but always great) fedora core 4.
So, let's time to contribute with the project. (This sentences are mostly
copied from the template, but I really feel the needing to give back
something to fedora).

I'm an engineering student, and I hope to know something about C, C++, Java,
SQL, CSS, Ladder (I don't think this is very important)
and I have special interests in robotics research.

So, let me introduce myself.

My name is Attilio Priolo, I'm 24 years old and live at Rome (Italy). My
first contact with Linux was when I drop
another hated OS that I'm not going to mention.

So, thanks a lot for some people who accepted me at Fedora Project. It's the
second time that I send this message because
the first one.... I don't know why it isn't arrived (I think it's my
fault... not a good beginning for a bugzapper :-) ).

Thanks for your sponsor Adam

At my signature I'm sending my contacts.

Bye



-- 
Attilio Priolo

SickBoy

-------------------------

Contacts

msn: i_m_a_sickboy  hotmail it
gtalk: attilio.priolo
irc where you should know
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090515/7301bd5f/attachment.htm>

From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Fri May 15 12:33:59 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:03:59 +0530
Subject: KDE4.3 and F11?
In-Reply-To: <f6ca9fed0905141317x55fd935pfdf7b39b4469d9d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23547542.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<f6ca9fed0905141317x55fd935pfdf7b39b4469d9d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <89bdee5a0905150533v60e6df5egcee4eb8092b81645@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:47 AM, drago01 <drago01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Mike Cloaked <mike.cloaked at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> When KDE 4.3 come out in July will there be an update to this version in
>> F11?
>
> Well if the kde update policy does not change I would say yes.
> The KDE SIG members can answer this for sure.
>

Atleast that is what happened with F10 when KDE 4.2 was released.
However KDE 4.2 provided a lot of useful improvements over KDE 4.1 to
be self justifying.


-- 
Gireesh



From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Fri May 15 13:02:14 2009
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:02:14 -0500
Subject: KDE4.3 and F11?
References: <23547542.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <gujp4n$5gk$1@ger.gmane.org>

Mike Cloaked wrote:

> When KDE 4.3 come out in July will there be an update to this version in
> F11?

Likely yes, provided it all tests out ok (is stable, few/no regressions, 
etc...).

-- Rex





From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Fri May 15 13:07:25 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:07:25 -0600
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <4A0D1239.7080307@dresco.co.uk>
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
	<1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242357815.4221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A0D1239.7080307@dresco.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1242392845.8236.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 07:56 +0100, Jon Escombe wrote:
> On 15/05/09 04:23, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 21:35 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> >> According to the FAQ, VMWare should be using ALSA, and if not, that's a
> >> bug which should be reported to the VMWare maintainers.
> >
> > According to this article:
> >
> > http://mike.magin.org/2009/01/08/using-alsa-for-sound-with-vmware-workstation-65-on-an-ubuntu-804-host/
> >
> > VMware Workstation 6.5 still uses OSS by default, but you can force it
> > (in theory at least) to use ALSA. But this has not worked for me as yet.
> > I still can do some poking around in it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Chris
> 
> So in theory adding the  following line to /etc/vmware/config should use 
> the pulseaudio wrapper instead, but unfortunately it didn't work either 
> (I don't see the wrapper library even being loaded)...
> 
> preload "/usr/lib/libpulsedsp.so"

I found another potential clue here:
http://communities.vmware.com/message/1094576#1094576

This says that you should be able to use Pulse Audio directly if you
manually change the settings for your VM from Auto Detect to /dev/dsp.
It also points to several other instructions for wrapping the launch of
VMware in a script with the LD_PRELOAD variable. I tried the above
without creating a wrapper first.

Unfortunately, this didn't work for me either - Workstation complains
that /dev/dsp doesn't exist. However, if I knew what the device entry
for Pulse Audio was - perhaps Workstation could be convinced to use
it...

Cheers,

Chris

--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 15 13:13:35 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:13:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090515 changes
Message-ID: <20090515131335.8694E1F8216@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri May 15 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

cups-1.4-0.b2.17.fc11
---------------------
* Thu May 14 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1:1.4-0.b2.17
- Prevent cupsd crash when handling IPP_TAG_DELETEATTR requests
  (STR #3197, bug #500859).


drupal-6.12-1.fc11
------------------
* Thu May 14 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 6.12-1
- Update to 6.11, SA-CORE-2009-006.


mkinitrd-6.0.84-1.fc11
----------------------
* Thu May 14 2009 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com> - 6.0.84-1
- Don't use fixed device names in cryptsetup (#500830)


plymouth-0.7.0-0.2009.05.14.2.fc11
----------------------------------
* Thu May 14 2009 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.7.0-0.2009.05.14.1
- Update to new snapshot that renames plugins to fix upgrades
  somewhat (bug 499940)

* Thu May 14 2009 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.7.0-0.2009.05.14.2
- Add plymouth-set-default-plugin compat script for upgrades
- Force solar to bring in system-plugin to work around comps snafu
  (bug 499940)


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.12.2-14.fc11
-------------------------------
* Thu May 14 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 6.12.2-14
- radeon-modeset-still-more-fixes.patch: Bump the GEM interface version to
  31 so we don't activate it... (#500801)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 5









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From kvolny at redhat.com  Fri May 15 13:24:38 2009
From: kvolny at redhat.com (Karel =?iso-8859-1?q?Voln=FD?=)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:24:38 +0200
Subject: KDE4.3 and F11?
In-Reply-To: <89bdee5a0905150533v60e6df5egcee4eb8092b81645@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23547542.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<f6ca9fed0905141317x55fd935pfdf7b39b4469d9d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<89bdee5a0905150533v60e6df5egcee4eb8092b81645@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905151524.41271.kvolny@redhat.com>


On Friday 15 May 2009 14:33, Gireesh wrote:
> However KDE 4.2 provided a lot of useful
> improvements over KDE 4.1 to be self justifying.

well, KDE 4.3 provides a lot of useful improvements over KDE 4.2 
too ;-)

(as for me - 4.3 is a replacement for 3.5, KDE 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 
weren't ... but 10 people = 10 opinions)

K.
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 189 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090515/258384b9/attachment.sig>

From iarlyy at gmail.com  Fri May 15 13:44:07 2009
From: iarlyy at gmail.com (iarly selbir | ski0s)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:44:07 -0300
Subject: Introduction
In-Reply-To: <50f528200905150445k648598c6v295b7e41c344a545@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50f528200905150445k648598c6v295b7e41c344a545@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <81481f630905150644m5871e17fod789bf956040afb3@mail.gmail.com>

Welcome to the team.


Regards,

- -
iarly selbir | ski0s

:wq!


On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Attilio Priolo <attilio.priolo at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I'm very glad to join at Fedora Bug Zappers Team. I'm using fedora since
> the old-fashioned (but always great) fedora core 4.
> So, let's time to contribute with the project. (This sentences are mostly
> copied from the template, but I really feel the needing to give back
> something to fedora).
>
> I'm an engineering student, and I hope to know something about C, C++,
> Java, SQL, CSS, Ladder (I don't think this is very important)
> and I have special interests in robotics research.
>
> So, let me introduce myself.
>
> My name is Attilio Priolo, I'm 24 years old and live at Rome (Italy). My
> first contact with Linux was when I drop
> another hated OS that I'm not going to mention.
>
> So, thanks a lot for some people who accepted me at Fedora Project. It's
> the second time that I send this message because
> the first one.... I don't know why it isn't arrived (I think it's my
> fault... not a good beginning for a bugzapper :-) ).
>
> Thanks for your sponsor Adam
>
> At my signature I'm sending my contacts.
>
> Bye
>
>
>
> --
> Attilio Priolo
>
> SickBoy
>
> -------------------------
>
> Contacts
>
> msn: i_m_a_sickboy  hotmail it
> gtalk: attilio.priolo
> irc where you should know
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090515/3fed4b40/attachment.htm>

From sahartsu at xs4all.nl  Fri May 15 14:19:25 2009
From: sahartsu at xs4all.nl (S.A. Hartsuiker)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:19:25 +0200
Subject: Bluetooth Issue on Fedora 11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <ef6d7e740905042010k6e36e605j7c8359dae9bc7fe7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef6d7e740905042010k6e36e605j7c8359dae9bc7fe7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0D79ED.5020208@xs4all.nl>

Hi,

I have the same mouse. After a bit of probing, it looks like this is a 
PolicyKit thing/bug.
Bluetoothd asks PolicyKit for permission, but PolicyKit doesn't know 
about bluetooth, so pairing always fails.

My quick and *very* dirty solution was as follows:

edit /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf
and add the following lines between the <config> and </config> tags:
           <match user="shartsuiker">
             <return result="yes"/>
           </match>
Of course you would need to replace my username with your own username :)

For me this allows the pairing to succeed.

Regards,
Stefan Hartsuiker

Greg Lumpkin wrote:
> Good evening all,
>
> I have F11 Preview installed on my Compaq N800w laptop.  For some 
> reason, Bluetooth is showing as disabled in the Gnome applet, but 
> under services, it is showing as enabled and running.
>
> When I click on Turn On Bluetooth in Bluetooth Preferences, nothing 
> happens.  This is preventing me from pairing with my Logitech 
> Bluetooth Travel Mouse.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Greg



From caf at omen.com  Fri May 15 14:24:46 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:24:46 -0700
Subject: Sound Problems with Rawhide
Message-ID: <4A0D7B2E.3000107@omen.com>

1. Audio tends to stutter when starting to play something.
This has been going on for some time.

2.  Still no mixer for Gnome unless XFCE is installed too.

3.  No apparent way to set line input gain on an Asus Xonar DX.
This used to work on Fedora 10 but was broken with the recent
pulseaudio updates to Fedora 10.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From achrisjo at yahoo.com  Fri May 15 14:29:36 2009
From: achrisjo at yahoo.com (Arne Chr. Jorgensen)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:29:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: what is it with bugzilla ?
Message-ID: <749518.25696.qm@web63706.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote:

> You're missing the point. 

Thanks for clearing that up. 

//ARNE



From kdekorte at gmail.com  Fri May 15 14:37:58 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:37:58 -0600
Subject: Sound Problems with Rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4A0D7B2E.3000107@omen.com>
References: <4A0D7B2E.3000107@omen.com>
Message-ID: <4A0D7E46.3010603@gmail.com>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 05/15/2009 08:24 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> 1. Audio tends to stutter when starting to play something.
> This has been going on for some time.

I only get this on the first sound that is played during login, all
other sounds are fine. High CPU load at any point while the sound is
playing?

> 
> 2.  Still no mixer for Gnome unless XFCE is installed too.
> 

Chuck, do you have gst-mixer installed? If so, look under
System->Preferences->Advanced Volume Control

At least with that you don't need xfce installed.

> 3.  No apparent way to set line input gain on an Asus Xonar DX.
> This used to work on Fedora 10 but was broken with the recent
> pulseaudio updates to Fedora 10.
> 

I think gst-mixer allows setting this.

Kevin


- -- 
Get my public GnuPG key from
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7D0BD5D1
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iEYEARECAAYFAkoNfkYACgkQ6w2kMH0L1dFfQQCfU6jq9PMK/KDn1rR6Ro5Bixw0
2EIAn3tlkK6tg5sJWYK7TCTAAQ6/O1Bi
=XW9y
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 15 16:02:46 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:02:46 -0700
Subject: Introduction
In-Reply-To: <50f528200905150445k648598c6v295b7e41c344a545@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50f528200905150445k648598c6v295b7e41c344a545@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242403366.2923.948.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 13:45 +0200, Attilio Priolo wrote:
> Hi guys, 
> 
> I'm very glad to join at Fedora Bug Zappers Team. I'm using fedora
> since the old-fashioned (but always great) fedora core 4. 
> So, let's time to contribute with the project. (This sentences are
> mostly copied from the template, but I really feel the needing to give
> back something to fedora). 
> 
> I'm an engineering student, and I hope to know something about C, C++,
> Java, SQL, CSS, Ladder (I don't think this is very important) 
> and I have special interests in robotics research. 
> 
> So, let me introduce myself. 
> 
> My name is Attilio Priolo, I'm 24 years old and live at Rome (Italy).
> My first contact with Linux was when I drop 
> another hated OS that I'm not going to mention. 
> 
> So, thanks a lot for some people who accepted me at Fedora Project.
> It's the second time that I send this message because 
> the first one.... I don't know why it isn't arrived (I think it's my
> fault... not a good beginning for a bugzapper :-) ).
> 
> Thanks for your sponsor Adam
> 
> At my signature I'm sending my contacts. 

Welcome to the group :). You don't have to copy the example mail
exactly, it was just an example! I guess I'll add a couple more examples
to the wiki too.

Please do come along to the Bugzappers meeting and Triage Day on
Tuesday, and hopefully we can get you started on some triaging. If
you're looking to learn programming, Bugzappers might not be the best
place for you - we work on organizing Bugzilla, not on actually writing
the code to fix bugs. So if that's what you're looking for, let us know,
and we'll point you in the right direction!

Thanks again for volunteering.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 15 17:12:45 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:12:45 -0700
Subject: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception
 save opportunity
In-Reply-To: <1242351027.14423.0.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <4A0C9E49.7040007@wolves.durham.nc.us>
	<4A0C9EED.80503@wolves.durham.nc.us>
	<1242351027.14423.0.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242407565.2923.949.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 21:30 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> ggw,
> 
> Thanks for your report.  I'm not sure it will get to the right people
> via the mailing list; you may want to post results on the wiki:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC_Install_Test_Results

I did actually say in my mail that it's good to send a mail to this list
too - jlaska and wwoods and jesse, who know a lot about Anaconda stuff,
are reading, and I think clumens may be also. So we can catch blocker
issues here, too, I think.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 15 17:13:12 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:13:12 -0700
Subject: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception
 save opportunity
In-Reply-To: <4A0C9E49.7040007@wolves.durham.nc.us>
References: <4A0C9E49.7040007@wolves.durham.nc.us>
Message-ID: <1242407592.2923.950.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 18:42 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> The VNC install failed quietly with the only culprit to finger being a 
> python assertion error:
> 
> python: Modules/gcmodule.c:242: update_refs: Assertion\
>    `gc->gc.gc.refs == (-3)' failed.
> 
> Then it simply kills the VNC and reports an installer error.
> 
> i686.pae machine
> Radeon QD 7200 R100 video
> 1.5Go RAM
> standard PATA disks, etc.

At what point exactly does it fail?
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 15 17:36:12 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:36:12 -0700
Subject: preupgrade fc10 to fc11
In-Reply-To: <4A0D2BB9.3000501@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <4A0D2BB9.3000501@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <1242408972.2923.951.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 11:45 +0300, shmuel siegel wrote:
> I used preupgrade to upgrade my fc10 64 bit system to fc11. The bottom 
> line is that it worked. But I have a question and some observations.
> 
> Is this the equivalent of an anaconda update. If it is, than this is 
> confirmation of anaconda for my environment.
> 
> There were a few minor annoyances in the process.
>     1) The screen went black because of inactivity - a little bit scary 
> for an install process

There's a bug report for this already, I believe.

>     2) After installing all of the packages, the machine started 
> "finishing" the process for many minutes. It would be nice to have some 
> idea of what is happening or some idea of progress. For all that I could 
> tell, it was in an infinite loop.
>     3) Still too many fc10 holdovers

These aren't important enough to do anything about now. Everything that
could be rebuilt for f11 was, anything left is something that actually
could not be rebuilt for some reason.

> For some reason, on rebooting it didn't automount my ntfs partitions (or 
> at least they didn't show up on the desktop) but it did let me mount 
> them by drilling down from the Computer icon. This functionality seems 
> to change rapidly, after some updates it automounts, after some it 
> doesn't. What is the ultimate planned functionality?

Don't know about this...
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 15 17:40:04 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:40:04 -0700
Subject: Sound Problems with Rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4A0D7B2E.3000107@omen.com>
References: <4A0D7B2E.3000107@omen.com>
Message-ID: <1242409204.2923.954.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 07:24 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> 1. Audio tends to stutter when starting to play something.
> This has been going on for some time.

You need to be way, way more specific - what exactly do you mean by
'stutter'? 'When starting to play something'...what? In what
applications? For how long?

What's the hardware? (alsa-info.sh)

And put all this information in a bug report.

> 2.  Still no mixer for Gnome unless XFCE is installed too.

gst-mixer is installed by default on new installs. Obviously it won't be
pulled in on existing installs by an update, that's not how changes to
comps work.

> 3.  No apparent way to set line input gain on an Asus Xonar DX.
> This used to work on Fedora 10 but was broken with the recent
> pulseaudio updates to Fedora 10.

Again, please be more detailed and file a bug report. It would be very
unlikely that a PulseAudio update could affect this, because it sounds
like it's part of the underlying ALSA system.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us  Fri May 15 18:17:40 2009
From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:17:40 -0400
Subject: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception save
 opportunity
In-Reply-To: <1242407592.2923.950.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4A0C9E49.7040007@wolves.durham.nc.us>
	<1242407592.2923.950.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A0DB1C4.8060401@wolves.durham.nc.us>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 18:42 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
>> The VNC install failed quietly with the only culprit to finger being a 
>> python assertion error:
>>
>> python: Modules/gcmodule.c:242: update_refs: Assertion\
>>    `gc->gc.gc.refs == (-3)' failed.
>>
>> Then it simply kills the VNC and reports an installer error.
>>
>> i686.pae machine
>> Radeon QD 7200 R100 video
>> 1.5Go RAM
>> standard PATA disks, etc.
> 
> At what point exactly does it fail?

That's the problem, no traceback to leave the graphical window on the 
screen make it impossible to know.  It was after software customization 
and during/before dependency resolution.

-- 
G.Wolfe Woodbury



From wwoods at redhat.com  Fri May 15 20:05:48 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:05:48 -0400
Subject: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception
 save opportunity
In-Reply-To: <4A0DB1C4.8060401@wolves.durham.nc.us>
References: <4A0C9E49.7040007@wolves.durham.nc.us>
	<1242407592.2923.950.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A0DB1C4.8060401@wolves.durham.nc.us>
Message-ID: <1242417948.3759.32.camel@metroid>

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 14:17 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 18:42 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> >> The VNC install failed quietly with the only culprit to finger being a 
> >> python assertion error:
> >>
> >> python: Modules/gcmodule.c:242: update_refs: Assertion\
> >>    `gc->gc.gc.refs == (-3)' failed.
> >>
> >> Then it simply kills the VNC and reports an installer error.
> >>
> >> i686.pae machine
> >> Radeon QD 7200 R100 video
> >> 1.5Go RAM
> >> standard PATA disks, etc.
> > 
> > At what point exactly does it fail?
> 
> That's the problem, no traceback to leave the graphical window on the 
> screen make it impossible to know.  It was after software customization 
> and during/before dependency resolution.

Silent crash during dep resolution, eh? That could be a memory problem -
either not enough RAM (unlikely - 1.5G is plenty) or bad hardware. 

Is it reproduceable? What's on the other VTs after the crash?

-w



From lsatenstein at yahoo.com  Fri May 15 20:33:08 2009
From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:33:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Video/Flash  not working as of today on F11 
Message-ID: <870419.98309.qm@web110702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

With the external flash from Adobe, all was working well until today. Now I have sound, but no video.? Same problem with F10.? The video card is onboard intel 810 Mother board d945gnt.

Best linux compatible motherboard I have owned.? 

By the way, Ubuntu sound/video does not work on that system, but works on another.

I do not use VMware.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090515/32c01b93/attachment.htm>

From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Fri May 15 21:03:31 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:03:31 -0700
Subject: F11 nfs4 weirdness - all files nobody.nobody owned
Message-ID: <878wky9izg.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>


I'm seeing an unexplained weirdness with nfs4.  All the exported files
show up as owned by nobody.nobody from the nfs4 client's perspective
when I do the mount by hand.  It is entirely possible that this is just
me not understanding how to export something transparently.  Strangely
automount when running on the same client doesn't have that problem.
I'm either missing a mount option, or nfs4 mounts via mount.nfs have
problems.  But which one is it???

The setup:

on nfs4 server (fedora-10)

/etc/exports:

/	192.83.197.100(rw,fsid=0,no_root_squash,insecure,no_subtree_check)

/etc/sysconfig/nfs:

MOUNTD_NFS_V2="no"
MOUNTD_NFS_V3="no"
RPCNFSDARGS="-N 2 -N 3"
RPCNFSDCOUNT=1

on clients (fedora-11):

mkdir /tmp/mnt
mount -t nfs4 -o hard,intr,nodev,nosuid arbol.wsrcc.com:/ /tmp/mnt

/etc/auto.vol:
arbol		-fstype=nfs4,hard,intr,nodev,nosuid	arbol:/

$ ls -l /tmp/mnt
<lots of nobody.nobody owned files>

Strangely when I access the auto.vol map, I do see the files owned by
root.root as I was expecting.  How come automount can see the correct
owner but mounts done via "mount -t nfs4 ..." can't?

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              http://www.full-steam.org/  (ipv6-only)
         You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Fri May 15 21:08:14 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:38:14 -0430
Subject: what is it with bugzilla ?
In-Reply-To: <749518.25696.qm@web63706.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <749518.25696.qm@web63706.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1242421694.17226.18.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 07:29 -0700, Arne Chr. Jorgensen wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote:
> 
> > You're missing the point. 
> 
> Thanks for clearing that up. 

No problem.

One other thing though: Yahoo is a really bad mailer to use with mailing
lists. It appears to completely ignore standard threading conventions
and I don't know if there's a way to configure it correctly. The result
is that your reply to my post is just sitting there on its own and not
related to any other message in the thread view of my mailer. You might
want to consider using a different mail client, at least for mailing
lists.

poc



From ricks at nerd.com  Fri May 15 21:37:27 2009
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:37:27 -0700
Subject: Video/Flash  not working as of today on F11
In-Reply-To: <870419.98309.qm@web110702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <870419.98309.qm@web110702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A0DE097.5020302@nerd.com>

Leslie Satenstein wrote:
> With the external flash from Adobe, all was working well until today. Now I have sound, but no video.  Same problem with F10.  The video card is onboard intel 810 Mother board d945gnt.
> 
> Best linux compatible motherboard I have owned.  

Gee, my Gigabyte GA-M55PLUS-S3G (Opteron 1210) and my ASUStek M3N78-VM
(Phenom X4) boards work very well, too (both nVidia chipsets).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer                      ricks at nerd.com -
- AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 22643734            Yahoo: origrps2 -
-                                                                    -
-            "You think that's tough?  Try herding cats!"            -
----------------------------------------------------------------------



From wwoods at redhat.com  Fri May 15 21:39:29 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:39:29 -0400
Subject: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception
 save opportunity
In-Reply-To: <1242417948.3759.32.camel@metroid>
References: <4A0C9E49.7040007@wolves.durham.nc.us>
	<1242407592.2923.950.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A0DB1C4.8060401@wolves.durham.nc.us>
	<1242417948.3759.32.camel@metroid>
Message-ID: <1242423569.3759.34.camel@metroid>

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 16:05 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 14:17 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> > Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 18:42 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> > >> The VNC install failed quietly with the only culprit to finger being a 
> > >> python assertion error:
> > >>
> > >> python: Modules/gcmodule.c:242: update_refs: Assertion\
> > >>    `gc->gc.gc.refs == (-3)' failed.
> > >>
> > >> Then it simply kills the VNC and reports an installer error.
> > >>
> > >> i686.pae machine
> > >> Radeon QD 7200 R100 video
> > >> 1.5Go RAM
> > >> standard PATA disks, etc.
> > > 
> > > At what point exactly does it fail?
> > 
> > That's the problem, no traceback to leave the graphical window on the 
> > screen make it impossible to know.  It was after software customization 
> > and during/before dependency resolution.
> 
> Silent crash during dep resolution, eh? That could be a memory problem -
> either not enough RAM (unlikely - 1.5G is plenty) or bad hardware. 
> 
> Is it reproduceable? What's on the other VTs after the crash?

For the record, I just ran a couple of successful VNC installs with
today's rawhide - one on ppc64, even. So the problem is particular to
your setup.

-w



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Fri May 15 22:13:50 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:13:50 -0400
Subject: USB Device Permissions In Fedora 11
Message-ID: <4A0DE91E.9060903@speakeasy.net>

I have gotten in the habit of baking a backup of my Blackberry with the 
barry program in Fedora 11. Each time I connect my Blackberry to a USB 
port, some device

/dev/bus/usb/[bus]/[device]

is created. For example

/dev/bus/usb/006/003

However, barry does not work for me (as an unprivileged user) unless I first become root and chmod the device like this:

chmod a+rwx /dev/bus/usb/006/003

Having to do this chmod step annoys me. Is there some way to automate the detection and setting of permissions on the device such that everything is done correctly a moment or so after I connect the Blackberry over USB?

I don't pretend to know the details of how USB devices are assigned, and can always learn more.

I am keeping a Bugzilla item updated with my barry adventures:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478851


Advice welcome.

Bob








From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Fri May 15 22:57:25 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:57:25 -0700
Subject: USB Device Permissions In Fedora 11
References: <4A0DE91E.9060903@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <874ovm9dpm.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>


Robert L Cochran <cochranb at speakeasy.net> writes:
> Having to do this chmod step annoys me. Is there some way to automate the detection and setting of permissions on the device such that everything is done correctly a moment or so after I connect the Blackberry over USB?

You can put rules down in /etc/udev/ruled.d/ and have them fire when the
appropriate device is plugged in.    Here is one that I have for my gps:

/etc/udev/rules.d/55-wsrcc-hotplug.rules:

# SIRF-III usb gps (Globalstar bu-XXX)
#
# added by wsr 2006-05-02
# /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.1/usb3/3-2
# manufacturer="Prolific Technology Inc."
# idProduct=2303
# idVendor=067b
# version=" 1.10"
# product=USB-Serial Controller
# add this too?? 
# SYSFS{idVendor}=="067b"
KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", SYSFS{idProduct}=="2303", SYMLINK+="gps" GROUP="staff" MODE="
0666"

It takes a bit of playing with "lsusb -v" to figure out what unique
product or vendor name you can latch onto.  Once you figure that out you
can chmod the device or even make a symlink to have a generic name you
can access it with.

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              http://www.full-steam.org/  (ipv6-only)
         You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 15 23:36:05 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 23:36:05 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090515233605.4BBC610F8ED@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    brasero-0.8.4-1.fc9
    cairomm-1.6.4-1.fc9
    fbterm-1.5-1.fc9
    fltk-1.1.9-4.fc9
    inn-2.4.4-3.fc9
    lcdproc-0.5.2-12.fc9
    libmetalink-0.0.3-4.fc9
    nbd-2.9.12-1.fc9
    papyrus-0.11.1-1.fc9
    preupgrade-1.1.0-1.fc9
    selinux-policy-3.3.1-133.fc9
    trousers-0.3.1-10.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 brasero-0.8.4-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5033)
 Gnome CD/DVD burning application
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Denis <denis at poolshark.org> - 0.8.4-1
- Update to upstream 0.8.4
- Some spec merges from F-10 branch
- Don't build libburn plugins
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cairomm-1.6.4-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5019)
 C++ API for the cairo graphics library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates cairomm to the latest possible version for Fedora 9.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr <rvinyard at cs.nmsu.edu> - 1.6.4-1
- Update to 1.6.4
- Removed patch, fixed upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fbterm-1.5-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5049)
 A frame buffer terminal emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Upstream update:      1. added support for text rendering with backround image
2. added command-line arguments to customize command executed in sub-window
3. added Alt-Fn and all FbTerm's shortcuts support when input method is actived
4. added option "-v/--verbose" to show some useful information     5. fixed some
text color issues with version 1.4     6. fixed encoding selection error when
locale is C/POSIX     7. fixed a bug where screen is cleared on startup even in
inactive tty     8. fixed a bug where variable HOME is not defined  -
rpmpack.patch is to allow rpm buildable for non-root account.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 15 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 1.5-1
- Upstream update:  
  1. added support for text rendering with backround image 
  2. added command-line arguments to customize command executed in sub-window 
  3. added Alt-Fn and all FbTerm's shortcuts support when input method is actived 
  4. added option "-v/--verbose" to show some useful information 
  5. fixed some text color issues with version 1.4 
  6. fixed encoding selection error when locale is C/POSIX 
  7. fixed a bug where screen is cleared on startup even in inactive tty 
  8. fixed a bug where variable HOME is not defined
- rpmpack.patch is to allow rpm buildable for non-root account.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fltk-1.1.9-4.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5052)
 C++ user interface toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

An update to the latest release, with several important packaging fixes for
multilib installs and static linking.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.1.9-4
- unbreak fltk-config --ldstaticflags (#500201)
- (another?) gcc44 patch
- -devel: +Provides: %name-static
- fix multiarch conflicts (#341141)
* Wed Mar  4 2009 Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 1.1.9-3
- fix uses of strchr wrt. constness
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.1.9-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Oct  1 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 1.1.9-1
- fltk-1.1.9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #341141 - multiarch conflicts in fltk
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=341141
  [ 2 ] Bug #500201 - fltk doesn't support static linking
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500201
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 inn-2.4.4-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4849)
 The InterNetNews system, an Usenet news server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- create user/group news with reserved uidgid numbers    (#498702)  - mark
/usr/lib/news/lib/innshellvars* as noreplace,    versioned provide for
perl(::/usr/lib/innshellvars.pl)  - fix upstream url  - do own /usr/include/inn
in devel package (#473922)  - do not use static libraries(changes by Jochen
Schmitt,#453993)  - own all dirs spawned by inn package(#448088)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik at redhat.com> - 2.4.4-3
- do include libstorage.so.2 and libinnhist.so.2 into package
* Mon May 11 2009 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik at redhat.com> - 2.4.4-2
- create user/group news with reserved uidgid numbers
  (#498702)
- mark /usr/lib/news/lib/innshellvars* as noreplace,
  versioned provide for perl(::/usr/lib/innshellvars.pl)
- fix upstream url
- do own /usr/include/inn in devel package (#473922)
- do not use static libraries(changes by Jochen Schmitt,#453993)
- own all dirs spawned by inn package(#448088)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498702 - cannot install inn (missing 'news' user)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498702
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lcdproc-0.5.2-12.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5012)
 LCDproc displays real-time system information on a 20x4 backlit LCD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 This update fix some problem with the initscript  It also avoid to use a
default configuration files already in place since the default configuration
aren't suitable in all cases (specially when no hardware is present but lcdproc
is installed).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.5.2-12
- Improve the initscripts patch - Fix #498384
* Tue Apr 14 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.5.2-11
- Disable xmlto validation (Fix FTBFS)
- Disable default configuration (only provided as examples)
* Thu Mar  5 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.5.2-10
- Disable LCDd lcdproc initscript by default.
  (It needs to be configured first).
* Mon Mar  2 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.5.2-9
- re-enable patch0
- Prevent some timestamps changes.
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.5.2-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Nov  7 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> - 0.5.2-7
- Add SoundGraph iMon and Antec Veris LCD device support
- Replace start_daemon w/daemon in initscripts (#468611)
* Tue Jul  8 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.5.2-6
- Add BR on Fedora > 9 : docbook-dtds
* Tue Jul  8 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.5.2-5
- Fix RETVAL for LSB compliant initscripts - #246971
- Fix Default driver path - #454194
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498384 - lcdproc init scripts errors: "stop: missing job name" and "return: can only `return' from a function or sourced script"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498384
  [ 2 ] Bug #481212 - Initscript metadata parsing bug? (malformed header in lcdproc)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481212
  [ 3 ] Bug #481398 - lcdproc initscripts call unknown functions
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481398
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libmetalink-0.0.3-4.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5018)
 A Metalink C library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497947 - Review Request: libmetalink - A Metalink C library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497947
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nbd-2.9.12-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4987)
 Network Block Device user-space tools (TCP version)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to 2.9.12 (resolves BZ#454099). - Added nbd-module.patch (resolves
BZ#496751).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 2.9.12-1
- Update to 2.9.12 (resolves BZ#454099).
- Added nbd-module.patch (resolves BZ#496751).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #454099 - nbd-server segfaults with bad config file
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454099
  [ 2 ] Bug #496751 - nbd-client should modprobe nbd
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496751
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 papyrus-0.11.1-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5042)
 Cairo based C++ scenegraph library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This release fixes some bugs in the Reference class' handling of composed
matrices and extents. Thanks to Julius Ziegler for reporting the problem and
providing an example application (called reference in the examples directory).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr <rvinyard at cs.nmsu.edu> - 0.11.1-1
- New release
- Added doc subpackage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 preupgrade-1.1.0-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5047)
 Prepares a system for an upgrade
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-1
- Bump version for 1.1.0 release
* Tue May  5 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-0.pre3
- Drop support for /boot on RAID
- Properly enable both main and install repos
- Fix cleanup of interrupted runs
- Require VNC password to be >= 6 chars long, like anaconda (bug #498843)
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-0.pre2
- Disable bootloader installation (bug 496952)
- Fix handling of releases.txt to accept Rawhide again
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-0.pre1
- Try to get new packages for *all* repos, including updates (bug 473966)
- Fix UnicodeDecodeError downloading packages (bug 476862)
- Fix traceback if network isn't up at startup (bug 474177)
- Specify which system to upgrade in kickstart (bug 473016)
- Fix traceback with certain mirrors (bug 487743)
- Fix problems with "excludes=" in yum.conf (bug 491577)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491577 - preupgrade: Cannot upgrade release with 'exclude=' entries in /etc/yum.conf
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491577
  [ 2 ] Bug #487743 - Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 preupgrade 'content-length' problem
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487743
  [ 3 ] Bug #473016 - Preupgrade to F10 (with multiple Fedora partitions) gives "Unable to read package metadata" error on reboot
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473016
  [ 4 ] Bug #474177 - Traceback if run when network down; no UI
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474177
  [ 5 ] Bug #476862 - preupgrade f10->rawhide fails with UnicodeDecodeError on libXdamage
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476862
  [ 6 ] Bug #473966 - RfE: Preupgrade should downloading new distributation with updates
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473966
  [ 7 ] Bug #496952 - preupgrade overwrite MBR instead of first partition on HDD
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496952
  [ 8 ] Bug #498843 - Upgrade with VNC asks for password after reboot
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498843
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 selinux-policy-3.3.1-133.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5036)
 SELinux policy configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 15 2009 Miroslav Grepl <mgrepl at redhat.com> 3.3.1-133
- Allow fptd_t to check its access to kernel key ring
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 trousers-0.3.1-10.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5029)
 TCG's Software Stack v1.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Removed unnecessary file requirements on chkconfig, ldconfig and service, now
requiring the initscripts and chkconfig packages. - Backport changes made by
David Woodhouse and Emily Ratliff from F-10 branch: - Work around SELinux
namespace pollution (#464037) - Use SO_REUSEADDR - Use TPM emulator if it's
available and no hardware is - Use the uid/gid pair assigned to trousers from
BZ#457593
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 0.3.1-10
- Do not overuse macros.
- Removed unnecessary file requirements on chkconfig, ldconfig and service,
  now requiring the initscripts and chkconfig packages.
- Backport changes made by David Woodhouse and Emily Ratliff from F-10 branch:
- Work around SELinux namespace pollution (#464037)
- Use SO_REUSEADDR
- Use TPM emulator if it's available and no hardware is
- Use the uid/gid pair assigned to trousers from BZ#457593
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #464042 - Segfault in Trspi_UnloadBlob
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464042
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 15 23:36:05 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 23:36:05 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090515233605.6DC4210F8EF@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    blitz-0.9-10.fc11
    crda-1.1.0_2009.04.17-11.fc11
    cudd-2.4.2-1.fc11
    eclipse-rpm-editor-0.4.2-3.fc11
    eclipse-rpmstubby-0.1.1-3.fc11
    fbterm-1.5-1.fc11
    firmware-addon-dell-2.1.2-4.3.fc11
    firmware-tools-2.1.5-1.1.fc11
    fltk-1.1.9-4.fc11
    geeqie-1.0-0.16.beta1.fc11
    gstreamer-0.10.23-1.fc11
    gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.23-1.fc11
    gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.14-3.fc11
    iw-0.9.14-1.fc11
    lcdproc-0.5.2-12.fc11
    libmetalink-0.0.3-4.fc11
    muse-1.0-0.5.rc2.fc11
    nbd-2.9.12-1.fc11
    ocsinventory-agent-1.0.1-4.fc11
    papyrus-0.11.1-1.fc11
    perl-Number-Format-1.72a-1.fc11
    policycoreutils-2.0.62-12.5.fc11
    preupgrade-1.1.0-1.fc11
    python-pmw-1.3.2-8.fc11
    pywebdav-0.9.2-1.fc11
    qemu-0.10.4-4.fc11
    subcommander-1.9.94-7.fc11.1
    tomoe-gtk-0.6.0-7.fc11
    trousers-0.3.1-17.fc11
    uget-1.4.8.1-1.fc11
    viewvc-1.1.0-1.fc11
    xfce4-notifyd-0.1.0-2.fc11
    xorg-x11-xdm-1.1.6-8.fc11
    yum-3.2.22-5.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 blitz-0.9-10.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5041)
 C++ class library for matrix scientific computing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Blitz is built with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.9-10
- Build with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS.
- Disable autotools dependency tracking during build for cleaner build logs
  and possible slight build speedup.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499739 - blitz not built with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499739
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 crda-1.1.0_2009.04.17-11.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5044)
 Regulatory compliance daemon for 802.11 wireless networking
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update crda to version 1.1.0 and wireless-regdb to version 2009.04.17
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> 1.1.0_2009.04.17-11
- Update crda version to version 1.1.0
- Update wireless-regdb to version 2009.04.17
* Fri Apr 17 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> 1.0.1_2009.04.16-10
- Update wireless-regdb version to pick-up recent updates and fixes (#496392)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500692 - Update crda to 1.1.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500692
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cudd-2.4.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5003)
 CU Decision Diagram Package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release with a number of Coverity-identified bugs fixed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Jerry James <loganjerry at gmail.com> - 2.4.2-1
- Update to 2.4.2
- Drop upstreamed cudd-2.4.1-strcat.patch
- Merge Mamoru's patch into cudd-2.4.2-sharedlib.patch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 eclipse-rpm-editor-0.4.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5021)
 RPM Specfile editor for Eclipse
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to Eclipse Linux Tools 0.2 release. See
http://www.eclipse.org/linuxtools/new/ for details.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> 0.4.2-3
- Update to LinuxTools 0.2 release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 eclipse-rpmstubby-0.1.1-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5046)
 Rpm specfile generator for Eclipse features
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to Eclipse Linux Tools 0.2 release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> 0.1.1-3
- Update to Linux Tools 0.2 release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fbterm-1.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4996)
 A frame buffer terminal emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Upstream update:      1. added support for text rendering with backround image
2. added command-line arguments to customize command executed in sub-window
3. added Alt-Fn and all FbTerm's shortcuts support when input method is actived
4. added option "-v/--verbose" to show some useful information     5. fixed some
text color issues with version 1.4     6. fixed encoding selection error when
locale is C/POSIX     7. fixed a bug where screen is cleared on startup even in
inactive tty     8. fixed a bug where variable HOME is not defined  -
rpmpack.patch is to allow rpm buildable for non-root account.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 15 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 1.5-1
- Upstream update:  
  1. added support for text rendering with backround image 
  2. added command-line arguments to customize command executed in sub-window 
  3. added Alt-Fn and all FbTerm's shortcuts support when input method is actived 
  4. added option "-v/--verbose" to show some useful information 
  5. fixed some text color issues with version 1.4 
  6. fixed encoding selection error when locale is C/POSIX 
  7. fixed a bug where screen is cleared on startup even in inactive tty 
  8. fixed a bug where variable HOME is not defined
- rpmpack.patch is to allow rpm buildable for non-root account.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 firmware-addon-dell-2.1.2-4.3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5004)
 A firmware-tools plugin to handle BIOS/Firmware for Dell systems
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update required for new API provided by firmware-tools > 2.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 2.1.2-4.3
- rebase to latest upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 firmware-tools-2.1.5-1.1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4998)
 Scripts and tools to manage firmware and BIOS updates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Significant rewrite  by upstream.  Necessary for updating Dell BIOS whose
payloads now require firmware-tools > 2.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 2.1.5-1.1
- rebase to upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fltk-1.1.9-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4989)
 C++ user interface toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This build includes several important packaging fixes for multilib installs an d
static linking.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.1.9-4
- unbreak fltk-config --ldstaticflags (#500201)
- (another?) gcc44 patch
- -devel: +Provides: %name-static
- fix multiarch conflicts (#341141)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #341141 - multiarch conflicts in fltk
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=341141
  [ 2 ] Bug #500201 - fltk doesn't support static linking
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500201
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 geeqie-1.0-0.16.beta1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5000)
 Image browser and viewer
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

After three alpha releases, this is the first beta release of Geeqie. All planed
features for 1.0 are implemented, but there are bugs. Please report any crash or
odd behavior in the Geeqie bugtracker:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=222125&atid=1054680
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.0-0.16.beta1
- update to beta1 tarball
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-0.10.23-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4913)
 GStreamer streaming media framework runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream releases with a large number of bug fixes, and update PulseAudio
plugin.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.10.23-1
- Update to 0.10.23
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 0.10.22-4
- Move req on which and pkgconfig to gstreamer-tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.23-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4913)
 GStreamer streaming media framework base plug-ins
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream releases with a large number of bug fixes, and update PulseAudio
plugin.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.10.23-1
- Update to 0.10.23
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.14-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4913)
 GStreamer plug-ins with good code and licensing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream releases with a large number of bug fixes, and update PulseAudio
plugin.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.10.14-3
- Update pulsesink to latest upstream version, fixes assertion when
  Rhythmbox tries to change the sound from the wrong thread
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 iw-0.9.14-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4995)
 A nl80211 based wireless configuration tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 0.9.14 from upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 0.9.14-1
- Update to 0.9.14
* Sat May  2 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> 0.9.13-1
- Update to 0.9.13
* Wed Apr 15 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> 0.9.12-1
- Update to 0.9.12
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500417 - Update iw to version 0.9.13
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500417
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lcdproc-0.5.2-12.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5017)
 LCDproc displays real-time system information on a 20x4 backlit LCD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.5.2-12
- Improve the initscripts patch - Fix #498384
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498384 - lcdproc init scripts errors: "stop: missing job name" and "return: can only `return' from a function or sourced script"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498384
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libmetalink-0.0.3-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5005)
 A Metalink C library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497947 - Review Request: libmetalink - A Metalink C library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497947
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 muse-1.0-0.5.rc2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5009)
 Midi/Audio Music Sequencer
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New release candidate with various bug fixes and new features. The full
changelog can be found at
https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=93414&release_id=680866 .
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com> 1:1.0-0.5.rc2
- Update to 1.0rc2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nbd-2.9.12-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5030)
 Network Block Device user-space tools (TCP version)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to 2.9.12 (resolves BZ#454099). - Added nbd-module.patch (resolves
BZ#496751).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 2.9.12-1
- Update to 2.9.12 (resolves BZ#454099).
- Added nbd-module.patch (resolves BZ#496751).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #454099 - nbd-server segfaults with bad config file
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454099
  [ 2 ] Bug #496751 - nbd-client should modprobe nbd
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496751
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ocsinventory-agent-1.0.1-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5008)
 Open Computer and Software Inventory Next Generation client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

+ Allow to configure PATH from configuration file when additionnal tools needed
in non standard path :  - ipssend for IBM ServeRaid  - hpacucli for HP Smart
Array  - tw_cli for AMCC/3ware  + Workaround to bug #500594
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Remi Collet <Fedora at famillecollet.com> 1.0.1-4
- fix typo
* Thu May 14 2009 Remi Collet <Fedora at famillecollet.com> 1.0.1-3
- define PATH in config (workaround for #500594 + tool path if needed)
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Remi Collet <Fedora at famillecollet.com> 1.0.1-2
- update the README.RPM (new configuration file)
- change from URL to only servername in config comment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 papyrus-0.11.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5038)
 Cairo based C++ scenegraph library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This release fixes some bugs in the Reference class' handling of composed
matrices and extents. Thanks to Julius Ziegler for reporting the problem and
providing an example application (called reference in the examples directory).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr <rvinyard at cs.nmsu.edu> - 0.11.1-1
- New release
- Added doc subpackage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Number-Format-1.72a-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5032)
 Perl extension for formatting numbers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream version containing various fixes:   - Use Makefile.PL
based on suggestion in RT 38020   - Add 'use strict' & 'use warnings'   - Add
MAX_INT constant for detecting overflows   - Add helper sub _get_multipliers for
getting kilo/mega/giga mult values   - Add test in round() for overflow from
large of a precision value (RT 40126)   - Add .5 + 1e-14 to rounded value
instead of .5000001 (RT 20298)   - Fix undef $pic_prefix (RT 43029)   - Add
support for giga and base option in unformat_number (RT 40455)   - Fix Russian
locale issues, esp. in unformat_number (RT 40859)   - Remove variables from
error messages (XSS risk) and standardize errors   - Remove requirement that
decimal_point & thousands_sep be 1 char (for ru_RU)   - Add Russian and
unformat_number tests in locale.t   - Add compare_numbers to test with an
allowable error of 1e-10 in round.t
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 policycoreutils-2.0.62-12.5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4945)
 SELinux policy core utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

-4 had a bug in it
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.62-12.5
- More portspage fixes
* Tue May 12 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.62-12.4
- Fix portspage and generation of init_script_file in templates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 preupgrade-1.1.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5007)
 Prepares a system for an upgrade
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-1
- Bump version for 1.1.0 release
* Tue May  5 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-0.pre3
- Drop support for /boot on RAID
- Properly enable both main and install repos
- Fix cleanup of interrupted runs
- Require VNC password to be >= 6 chars long, like anaconda (bug #498843)
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-0.pre2
- Disable bootloader installation (bug 496952)
- Fix handling of releases.txt to accept Rawhide again
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-0.pre1
- Try to get new packages for *all* repos, including updates (bug 473966)
- Fix UnicodeDecodeError downloading packages (bug 476862)
- Fix traceback if network isn't up at startup (bug 474177)
- Specify which system to upgrade in kickstart (bug 473016)
- Fix traceback with certain mirrors (bug 487743)
- Fix problems with "excludes=" in yum.conf (bug 491577)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491577 - preupgrade: Cannot upgrade release with 'exclude=' entries in /etc/yum.conf
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491577
  [ 2 ] Bug #487743 - Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 preupgrade 'content-length' problem
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487743
  [ 3 ] Bug #473016 - Preupgrade to F10 (with multiple Fedora partitions) gives "Unable to read package metadata" error on reboot
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473016
  [ 4 ] Bug #474177 - Traceback if run when network down; no UI
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474177
  [ 5 ] Bug #476862 - preupgrade f10->rawhide fails with UnicodeDecodeError on libXdamage
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476862
  [ 6 ] Bug #473966 - RfE: Preupgrade should downloading new distributation with updates
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473966
  [ 7 ] Bug #496952 - preupgrade overwrite MBR instead of first partition on HDD
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496952
  [ 8 ] Bug #498843 - Upgrade with VNC asks for password after reboot
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498843
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-pmw-1.3.2-8.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5027)
 Python powerwidgets
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Tim Fenn <fenn at stanford.edu> - 1.3.2-8
- patch for unicode menus (Mamoru Tasaka), bug ID 500459
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500459 - bkchem program does not start and end up with the error message.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500459
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pywebdav-0.9.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4980)
 WebDAV library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to 0.9.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 15 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> 0.9.2-1
- update to 0.9.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qemu-0.10.4-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5050)
 QEMU is a FAST! processor emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This package updates qemu to the first official stable release of qemu-kvm,
version 0.10.4.    Along with fixing the bugs listed, this update also:    -
Fixes an oops with some 2.6.25 virtio guest, see bug #470386  - Enables the
pulseaudio driver for testing, see bug #495964 and bug #496627  - Fixes cpuid
initialization  - Fixes HPET emulation  - Fixes storage hotplug error handling
- Fixes some migration problems  - Fixes some issues with block range checking
- Makes PCI config status register read-only  - Handles newer Xorg keymap names
- Avoids leak memory on NIC hot-unplug  - Hooks up keypad keys for qemu console
emulation  - Correctly runs on kernels lacking mmu notifiers  - Supports DDIM
option ROMs  - Fixes PCI NIC error handling  - Fixes in-kernel LAPIC
initialization  - Fixes broken e1000 PCI config space
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 2:0.10.4-4
- Cherry pick more DMA AIO cancellation fixes from upstream (#497170)
* Wed May 13 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 2:0.10.4-3
- Fix mixup between kvm.modules and the init script (reported by Rich Jones)
* Wed May 13 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 2:0.10.4-2
- Fix -kernel bustage in upstream 0.10.4
* Tue May 12 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 2:0.10.4-1
- Update to 0.10.4
- Fix yet more qcow2 corruption (#498405)
- AIO cancellation fixes (#497170)
- Fix VPC image size overflow (#491981)
- Fix oops with 2.6.25 virtio guest (#470386)
- Enable pulseaudio driver (#495964, #496627)
- Fix cpuid initialization
- Fix HPET emulation
- Fix storage hotplug error handling
- Migration fixes
- Block range checking fixes
- Make PCI config status register read-only
- Handle newer Xorg keymap names
- Don't leak memory on NIC hot-unplug
- Hook up keypad keys for qemu console emulation
- Correctly run on kernels lacking mmu notifiers
- Support DDIM option ROMs
- Fix PCI NIC error handling
- Fix in-kernel LAPIC initialization
- Fix broken e1000 PCI config space
- Drop some patches which have been upstreamed
- Drop the make-release script; we have an official tarball now
* Tue May 12 2009 Glauber Costa <glommer at redhat.com> - 2:0.10-18
- move option rom setup function to the beginning of the file. This
  avoids static vs non-static issues, and is the way upstream does
* Tue May 12 2009 Glauber Costa <glommer at redhat.com> - 2:0.10-17
- fix reboot with -kernel parameter (#499666)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499666 - Reboot fails when using qemu -kernel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499666
  [ 2 ] Bug #498405 - qemu disk image corruption with qcow2/virtio
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498405
  [ 3 ] Bug #497170 - qemu segfaults with "raw_aio_remove: aio request not found!"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497170
  [ 4 ] Bug #491981 - Integer wraparound creating a large disk image in VPC  format
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491981
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 subcommander-1.9.94-7.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-4988)
 Graphical UI for subversion
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix a FTBFS agains subversion-1.6.x
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 1.9.94-7.1
- Add fix to build subcommander agains subversion-1.6.x
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tomoe-gtk-0.6.0-7.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4984)
 Gtk library for tomoe for Japanese and Chinese handwritten input
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Fixed RH Bug 499880: tomoe-gtk not built with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS  - Add libtool
BuildRequires.  - Fixed rpath issues.  - Add tomoegtk.so
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 0.6.0-7
- Fixed RH Bug 499880: tomoe-gtk not built with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS
- Add libtool BuildRequires.
- Fixed rpath issues.
- Add tomoegtk.so
* Fri May  8 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.6.0-6
- Build with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS (patch to avoid discarding user set $CFLAGS).
- Disable autotools dependency tracking during build for cleaner build logs
  and possible slight build speedup.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499880 - tomoe-gtk not built with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499880
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 trousers-0.3.1-17.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4992)
 TCG's Software Stack v1.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Removed unnecessary file requirements on chkconfig, ldconfig and service, now
requiring the initscripts and chkconfig packages.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 0.3.1-17
- Do not overuse macros.
- Removed unnecessary file requirements on chkconfig, ldconfig and service,
  now requiring the initscripts and chkconfig packages.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 uget-1.4.8.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5048)
 Download manager using GTK+ and libcurl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version 1.4.8.1 is released.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 1.4.8.1-1
- 1.4.8.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 viewvc-1.1.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4979)
 Browser interface for CVS and SVN version control repositories
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Bojan Smojver <bojan at rexursive.com> - 1.1.0-1
- Final 1.1.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xfce4-notifyd-0.1.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4698)
 Simple notification daemon for Xfce
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Xfce4-notifyd is a simple, visually-appealing notification daemon for Xfce that
implements the freedesktop.org desktop notifications specification.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499282 - Review Request: xfce4-notifyd - Simple notification daemon for Xfce
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499282
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xorg-x11-xdm-1.1.6-8.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5001)
 X.Org X11 xdm - X Display Manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Appropriate directory is created so that authentication actually works.
/etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config is now a configuration file.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Mat?j Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com> - 1:1.1.6-8
- Create /var/lib/xdm to make authorization work (bug 500704)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yum-3.2.22-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4977)
 RPM installer/updater
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- translation updates  - more unicode fixes  - more skipbroken fixes  - yumdb
support          - fixes for a number of the pylint errors reported   - fixes
for the pylint fixes  - generally lots of updates and fixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.22-5
- jump up to almost 3.2.23. 
- had to move patch0 around a bit until we rebase to 3.2.23
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 15 23:36:05 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 23:36:05 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090515233605.86F0610F8F0@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    cairomm-1.8.0-1.fc10
    cudd-2.4.2-1.fc10
    epiphany-extensions-2.24.3-1.fc10
    fbterm-1.5-1.fc10
    fltk-1.1.9-4.fc10
    geeqie-1.0-0.16.beta1.fc10
    lcdproc-0.5.2-12.fc10
    libmetalink-0.0.3-4.fc10
    muse-1.0-0.5.rc2.fc10
    nbd-2.9.12-1.fc10
    papyrus-0.11.1-1.fc10
    perl-Number-Format-1.72a-1.fc10
    preupgrade-1.1.0-1.fc10
    python-pmw-1.3.2-6.fc10
    pywebdav-0.9.2-1.fc10
    tomoe-gtk-0.6.0-7.fc10
    trousers-0.3.1-14.fc10
    uget-1.4.8.1-1.fc10
    xorg-x11-xdm-1.1.6-8.fc10
    yum-3.2.22-5.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 cairomm-1.8.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5025)
 Cairomm is the C++ API for the cairo graphics library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This release brings cairomm up to date with cairo.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Feb 24 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr <rvinyard at cs.nmsu.edu> - 1.8.0-1
- Update to 1.8.0
- Added libsigc++20-devel dependency
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.6.2-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cudd-2.4.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5053)
 CU Decision Diagram Package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release with a number of Coverity-identified bugs fixed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Jerry James <loganjerry at gmail.com> - 2.4.2-1
- Update to 2.4.2
- Drop upstreamed cudd-2.4.1-strcat.patch
- Merge Mamoru's patch into cudd-2.4.2-sharedlib.patch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 epiphany-extensions-2.24.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5039)
 Extensions for Epiphany, the GNOME web browser
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Epiphany Extensions 2.24.3 contains fixes for the Error Viewer and CC License
Viewer extensions, and an updated Chinese (zh_CN) translation.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Peter Gordon <peter at thecodergeek.com> - 2.24.3-1
- Update to new upstream release (2.24.3).
- Make the GConf scriptlets quieter. (Fixes #500841.)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500841 - Warnings on update
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500841
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fbterm-1.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4991)
 A frame buffer terminal emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Upstream update:      1. added support for text rendering with backround image
2. added command-line arguments to customize command executed in sub-window
3. added Alt-Fn and all FbTerm's shortcuts support when input method is actived
4. added option "-v/--verbose" to show some useful information     5. fixed some
text color issues with version 1.4     6. fixed encoding selection error when
locale is C/POSIX     7. fixed a bug where screen is cleared on startup even in
inactive tty     8. fixed a bug where variable HOME is not defined  -
rpmpack.patch is to allow rpm buildable for non-root account.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 15 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 1.5-1
- Upstream update:  
  1. added support for text rendering with backround image 
  2. added command-line arguments to customize command executed in sub-window 
  3. added Alt-Fn and all FbTerm's shortcuts support when input method is actived 
  4. added option "-v/--verbose" to show some useful information 
  5. fixed some text color issues with version 1.4 
  6. fixed encoding selection error when locale is C/POSIX 
  7. fixed a bug where screen is cleared on startup even in inactive tty 
  8. fixed a bug where variable HOME is not defined
- rpmpack.patch is to allow rpm buildable for non-root account.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fltk-1.1.9-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4994)
 C++ user interface toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This build includes several important packaging fixes for multilib installs an d
static linking.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.1.9-4
- unbreak fltk-config --ldstaticflags (#500201)
- (another?) gcc44 patch
- -devel: +Provides: %name-static
- fix multiarch conflicts (#341141)
* Wed Mar  4 2009 Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 1.1.9-3
- fix uses of strchr wrt. constness
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.1.9-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #341141 - multiarch conflicts in fltk
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=341141
  [ 2 ] Bug #500201 - fltk doesn't support static linking
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500201
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 geeqie-1.0-0.16.beta1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4981)
 Image browser and viewer
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

After three alpha releases, this is the first beta release of Geeqie. All planed
features for 1.0 are implemented, but there are bugs. Please report any crash or
odd behavior in the Geeqie bugtracker:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=222125&atid=1054680
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.0-0.16.beta1
- update to beta1 tarball
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.0-0.15.alpha3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lcdproc-0.5.2-12.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5016)
 LCDproc displays real-time system information on a 20x4 backlit LCD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 This update fix some problem with the initscript  It also avoid to use a
default configuration files already in place since the default configuration
aren't suitable in all cases (specially when no hardware is present but lcdproc
is installed).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.5.2-12
- Improve the initscripts patch - Fix #498384
* Tue Apr 14 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.5.2-11
- Disable xmlto validation (Fix FTBFS)
- Disable default configuration (only provided as examples)
* Thu Mar  5 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.5.2-10
- Disable LCDd lcdproc initscript by default.
  (It needs to be configured first).
* Mon Mar  2 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.5.2-9
- re-enable patch0
- Prevent some timestamps changes.
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.5.2-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498384 - lcdproc init scripts errors: "stop: missing job name" and "return: can only `return' from a function or sourced script"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498384
  [ 2 ] Bug #481212 - Initscript metadata parsing bug? (malformed header in lcdproc)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481212
  [ 3 ] Bug #481398 - lcdproc initscripts call unknown functions
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481398
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libmetalink-0.0.3-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5051)
 A Metalink C library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497947 - Review Request: libmetalink - A Metalink C library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497947
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 muse-1.0-0.5.rc2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5006)
 Midi/Audio Music Sequencer
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New release candidate with various bug fixes and new features. The full
changelog can be found at
https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=93414&release_id=680866 .
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com> 1:1.0-0.5.rc2
- Update to 1.0rc2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nbd-2.9.12-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4982)
 Network Block Device user-space tools (TCP version)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to 2.9.12 (resolves BZ#454099). - Added nbd-module.patch (resolves
BZ#496751).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 2.9.12-1
- Update to 2.9.12 (resolves BZ#454099).
- Added nbd-module.patch (resolves BZ#496751).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #454099 - nbd-server segfaults with bad config file
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454099
  [ 2 ] Bug #496751 - nbd-client should modprobe nbd
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496751
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 papyrus-0.11.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5010)
 Cairo based C++ scenegraph library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This release fixes some bugs in the Reference class' handling of composed
matrices and extents. Thanks to Julius Ziegler for reporting the problem and
providing an example application (called reference in the examples directory).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr <rvinyard at cs.nmsu.edu> - 0.11.1-1
- New release
- Added doc subpackage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Number-Format-1.72a-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5013)
 Perl extension for formatting numbers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream version containing various fixes:   - Use Makefile.PL
based on suggestion in RT 38020   - Add 'use strict' & 'use warnings'   - Add
MAX_INT constant for detecting overflows   - Add helper sub _get_multipliers for
getting kilo/mega/giga mult values   - Add test in round() for overflow from
large of a precision value (RT 40126)   - Add .5 + 1e-14 to rounded value
instead of .5000001 (RT 20298)   - Fix undef $pic_prefix (RT 43029)   - Add
support for giga and base option in unformat_number (RT 40455)   - Fix Russian
locale issues, esp. in unformat_number (RT 40859)   - Remove variables from
error messages (XSS risk) and standardize errors   - Remove requirement that
decimal_point & thousands_sep be 1 char (for ru_RU)   - Add Russian and
unformat_number tests in locale.t   - Add compare_numbers to test with an
allowable error of 1e-10 in round.t
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 preupgrade-1.1.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4211)
 Prepares a system for an upgrade
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-1
- Bump version for 1.1.0 release
* Tue May  5 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-0.pre3
- Drop support for /boot on RAID
- Properly enable both main and install repos
- Fix cleanup of interrupted runs
- Require VNC password to be >= 6 chars long, like anaconda (bug #498843)
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-0.pre2
- Disable bootloader installation (bug 496952)
- Fix handling of releases.txt to accept Rawhide again
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 1.1.0-0.pre1
- Try to get new packages for *all* repos, including updates (bug 473966)
- Fix UnicodeDecodeError downloading packages (bug 476862)
- Fix traceback if network isn't up at startup (bug 474177)
- Specify which system to upgrade in kickstart (bug 473016)
- Fix traceback with certain mirrors (bug 487743)
- Fix problems with "excludes=" in yum.conf (bug 491577)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491577 - preupgrade: Cannot upgrade release with 'exclude=' entries in /etc/yum.conf
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491577
  [ 2 ] Bug #487743 - Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 preupgrade 'content-length' problem
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487743
  [ 3 ] Bug #473016 - Preupgrade to F10 (with multiple Fedora partitions) gives "Unable to read package metadata" error on reboot
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473016
  [ 4 ] Bug #474177 - Traceback if run when network down; no UI
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474177
  [ 5 ] Bug #476862 - preupgrade f10->rawhide fails with UnicodeDecodeError on libXdamage
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476862
  [ 6 ] Bug #473966 - RfE: Preupgrade should downloading new distributation with updates
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473966
  [ 7 ] Bug #496952 - preupgrade overwrite MBR instead of first partition on HDD
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496952
  [ 8 ] Bug #498843 - Upgrade with VNC asks for password after reboot
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498843
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-pmw-1.3.2-6.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5011)
 Python powerwidgets
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Tim Fenn <fenn at stanford.edu> - 1.3.2-6
- patch for unicode menus (Mamoru Tasaka), bug ID 500459
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500459 - bkchem program does not start and end up with the error message.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500459
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pywebdav-0.9.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5020)
 WebDAV library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to 0.9.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 15 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> 0.9.2-1
- update to 0.9.2
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.8-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tomoe-gtk-0.6.0-7.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5022)
 Gtk library for tomoe for Japanese and Chinese handwritten input
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Fixed RH Bug 499880: tomoe-gtk not built with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS  - Add libtool
BuildRequires.  - Fixed rpath issues.  - Add tomoegtk.so
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 0.6.0-7
- Fixed RH Bug 499880: tomoe-gtk not built with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS
- Add libtool BuildRequires.
- Fixed rpath issues.
- Add tomoegtk.so
* Fri May  8 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.6.0-6
- Build with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS (patch to avoid discarding user set $CFLAGS).
- Disable autotools dependency tracking during build for cleaner build logs
  and possible slight build speedup.
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.6.0-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499880 - tomoe-gtk not built with $RPM_OPT_FLAGS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499880
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 trousers-0.3.1-14.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4999)
 TCG's Software Stack v1.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Removed unnecessary file requirements on chkconfig, ldconfig and service, now
requiring the initscripts and chkconfig packages. - Backport changes made by
David Woodhouse and Emily Ratliff from F-10 branch: - Work around SELinux
namespace pollution (#464037) - Use SO_REUSEADDR - Use TPM emulator if it's
available and no hardware is - Use the uid/gid pair assigned to trousers from
BZ#457593
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 0.3.1-14
- Do not overuse macros.
- Removed unnecessary file requirements on chkconfig, ldconfig and service,
  now requiring the initscripts and chkconfig packages.
* Wed May  6 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 0.3.1-13
- Fix a typo in groupadd causing the %pre scriptlet to fail (resolves BZ#486155).
* Tue Dec 16 2008 David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse at intel.com> - 0.3.1-12
- Bump release to avoid wrong tag in rawhide
* Tue Dec 16 2008 David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse at intel.com> - 0.3.1-11
- Work around SELinux namespace pollution (#464037)
- Use SO_REUSEADDR
- Use TPM emulator if it's available and no hardware is
* Fri Aug  8 2008 Emily Ratliff <ratliff at austin.ibm.com> - 0.3.1-10
- Use the uid/gid pair assigned to trousers from BZ#457593
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #464042 - Segfault in Trspi_UnloadBlob
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464042
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 uget-1.4.8.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5043)
 Download manager using GTK+ and libcurl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version 1.4.8.1 is released.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 1.4.8.1-1
- 1.4.8.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xorg-x11-xdm-1.1.6-8.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4985)
 X.Org X11 xdm - X Display Manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Appropriate directory is created so that authentication actually works.
/etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config is now a configuration file.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Mat?j Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com> - 1.1.6-8
- Create /var/lib/xdm to make authorization work (bug 500704)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500704 - xdm creates unsecured session
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500704
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yum-3.2.22-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5014)
 RPM installer/updater
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- translation updates  - more unicode fixes  - more skipbroken fixes  - yumdb
support          - fixes for a number of the pylint errors reported   - fixes
for the pylint fixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.22-5
- jump up to almost 3.2.23. 
- had to move patch0 around a bit until we rebase to 3.2.23
- remove python 2.6ism for stdout
* Thu Apr  9 2009 James Antill <james at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.22-4
- fix typo for yum-complete-transaction message.
* Wed Apr  8 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.22-3
- fix for file:// urls which makes things in pungi/mash work
* Tue Apr  7 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.22-2
- yum-HEAD minus the yumdb patches
* Tue Mar 24 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.22-1
- 3.2.22 - 3 patches beyond 3.2.21-16
* Mon Mar 16 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-16
- fix for 490490
* Fri Mar 13 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-15
- update to upstream git to fix conditionals problem on anaconda installs
* Thu Mar 12 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-14
- latest HEAD
* Tue Mar 10 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-13
- f11beta build
* Wed Mar  4 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-12
- second verse, same as the first
* Fri Feb 27 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-10
- merge up a lot of fixes from latest HEAD
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Feb 10 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-9
- merge up to latest yum head - sort of a pre 3.2.22
* Wed Feb  4 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-8
- fix for YumHeaderPackages so it plays nicely w/createrepo and mergerepo, etc
* Thu Jan 29 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-7
- update HEAD patch to fix repodiff (and EVR comparisons in certain cases)
* Tue Jan 27 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-6
- patch to keep anaconda (and other callers) happy
- remove old 6hr patch which is now upstream
* Mon Jan 26 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-4
- patch to latest HEAD to test a number of fixes for alpha
* Tue Jan 20 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-3
- add a small patch to make things play a bit nicer with the logging module
  in 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From snow.open.ski at gmail.com  Fri May 15 23:42:02 2009
From: snow.open.ski at gmail.com (Will)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:42:02 -0400
Subject: BugZappers New Member SOP
In-Reply-To: <1242331045.2923.932.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4A02E57E.4020304@gmail.com>	<1241718376.23133.26.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<4A03276A.9030504@gmail.com>
	<1241723589.2923.501.camel@adam.local.net>	<4A033DC1.9080504@gmail.com>
	<1242331045.2923.932.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A0DFDCA.1060804@gmail.com>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:00 -0400, TK009 wrote:
>   
>> Adam Williamson wrote:
>>     
>>>  I'll see if I can tweak it a bit.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Thanks
>>     
>
> I wound up revising it quite a lot :)
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/sop_new_member
>
> it's now a bit more explicit, and it covers the procedure for both the
> applicant and the administrator. Hope it's OK.
>
> I also revised the Joining page:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Joining
>
> to explain the introductory email process to applicants. So the
> information on that page should still be sufficient, alone, to explain
> how to sign up to the group - no need to actually read the SOP page.
>   
Adam,

I really like the new page for Joining. It spells everything out 
clearly, and most people should be able to figure out what to do.

Will
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090515/fac86eb7/attachment.htm>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Sat May 16 00:05:40 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:05:40 -0700
Subject: BugZappers New Member SOP
In-Reply-To: <4A0DFDCA.1060804@gmail.com>
References: <4A02E57E.4020304@gmail.com>
	<1241718376.23133.26.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4A03276A.9030504@gmail.com> <1241723589.2923.501.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A033DC1.9080504@gmail.com> <1242331045.2923.932.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A0DFDCA.1060804@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242432340.2923.959.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 19:42 -0400, Will wrote:

> > I also revised the Joining page:
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Joining
> > 
> > to explain the introductory email process to applicants. So the
> > information on that page should still be sufficient, alone, to explain
> > how to sign up to the group - no need to actually read the SOP page.
> >   
> Adam,
> 
> I really like the new page for Joining. It spells everything out
> clearly, and most people should be able to figure out what to do.

Great, thanks for the feedback - it really helps :)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From schaiba at gmail.com  Sat May 16 07:49:34 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 10:49:34 +0300
Subject: Video/Flash  not working as of today on F11
In-Reply-To: <4A0DE097.5020302@nerd.com>
References: <870419.98309.qm@web110702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4A0DE097.5020302@nerd.com>
Message-ID: <4A0E700E.3090901@gmail.com>

Rick Stevens wrote:
> Leslie Satenstein wrote:
>> With the external flash from Adobe, all was working well until today. 
>> Now I have sound, but no video.  Same problem with F10.  The video 
>> card is onboard intel 810 Mother board d945gnt.
>>
>> Best linux compatible motherboard I have owned.  
>
> Gee, my Gigabyte GA-M55PLUS-S3G (Opteron 1210) and my ASUStek M3N78-VM
> (Phenom X4) boards work very well, too (both nVidia chipsets).
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer                      ricks at nerd.com -
> - AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 22643734            Yahoo: origrps2 -
> -                                                                    -
> -            "You think that's tough?  Try herding cats!"            -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
So what? You're not quite helping the man, I see.



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Sat May 16 11:27:16 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 07:27:16 -0400
Subject: Introduction
In-Reply-To: <50f528200905150445k648598c6v295b7e41c344a545@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50f528200905150445k648598c6v295b7e41c344a545@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0EA314.10105@gmail.com>

Attilio Priolo wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm very glad to join at Fedora Bug Zappers Team. I'm using fedora 
> since the old-fashioned (but always great) fedora core 4.
> So, let's time to contribute with the project. (This sentences are 
> mostly copied from the template, but I really feel the needing to give 
> back something to fedora).
>
> I'm an engineering student, and I hope to know something about C, C++, 
> Java, SQL, CSS, Ladder (I don't think this is very important)
> and I have special interests in robotics research.
>
> So, let me introduce myself.
>
> My name is Attilio Priolo, I'm 24 years old and live at Rome (Italy). 
> My first contact with Linux was when I drop
> another hated OS that I'm not going to mention.
>
> So, thanks a lot for some people who accepted me at Fedora Project. 
> It's the second time that I send this message because
> the first one.... I don't know why it isn't arrived (I think it's my 
> fault... not a good beginning for a bugzapper :-) ).
>
> Thanks for your sponsor Adam
>
> At my signature I'm sending my contacts.
>
> Bye
>
>
>
> -- 
> Attilio Priolo
>
> SickBoy
>
> -------------------------
>
> Contacts
>
> msn: i_m_a_sickboy  hotmail it
> gtalk: attilio.priolo
> irc where you should know 
Welcome to the BugZappers =)

TK009



From xiashing at gmail.com  Sat May 16 12:36:18 2009
From: xiashing at gmail.com (Xia Shing Zee)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:36:18 +1000
Subject: Nikto broken package and BugZappers introduction
Message-ID: <954b158e0905160536t398ac970n53a65d8e6f12b269@mail.gmail.com>

Nikto seems to have a broken package. I tried using yum erase nikto, then
yum install nikto, just to refresh it if I had somehow messed up any files,
but the same error still seemed to come up:

[root at localhost~/]# nikto
- ERROR: Unable to open config file 'config.txt' (No such file or
directory), only 1 CGI directory defined.
I can't find 'plugins' directory. I looked around:

    /home/user
    /usr/bin/nikto
Try: switch to the 'nikto' base dir, or
Try: set EXECDIR in config.txt

Also, I'd kindly like to make my introduction to the Fedora BugZappers team
here too. Too sum up, I'm still a student and I use Fedora because I love
all the aspects it offers from general administration to security and the
rest. Also, it's blue by default, and none of that Ubuntu poo-poo colour :P
I also like it because the community is more professional and enterprise
level! Hope to zap some bugs in the coming months...anyways, cya round...

-Xia Shing Zee
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/607cac73/attachment.htm>

From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Sat May 16 12:52:56 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 08:52:56 -0400
Subject: Nikto broken package and BugZappers introduction
In-Reply-To: <954b158e0905160536t398ac970n53a65d8e6f12b269@mail.gmail.com>
References: <954b158e0905160536t398ac970n53a65d8e6f12b269@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0EB728.9010908@gmail.com>

Xia Shing Zee wrote:
> Nikto seems to have a broken package. I tried using yum erase nikto, 
> then yum install nikto, just to refresh it if I had somehow messed up 
> any files, but the same error still seemed to come up:
>
> [root at localhost~/]# nikto
> - ERROR: Unable to open config file 'config.txt' (No such file or 
> directory), only 1 CGI directory defined.
> I can't find 'plugins' directory. I looked around:
>    
>     /home/user
>     /usr/bin/nikto
> Try: switch to the 'nikto' base dir, or
> Try: set EXECDIR in config.txt
>
> Also, I'd kindly like to make my introduction to the Fedora BugZappers 
> team here too. Too sum up, I'm still a student and I use Fedora 
> because I love all the aspects it offers from general administration 
> to security and the rest. Also, it's blue by default, and none of that 
> Ubuntu poo-poo colour :P I also like it because the community is more 
> professional and enterprise level! Hope to zap some bugs in the coming 
> months...anyways, cya round...
>
> -Xia Shing Zee
Hello and welcome to the BugZappers =)

I can't help with your nikto issue, I am not familiar with the program. 
Looking at their site the doc's are sparse. As a wild guess do you have 
perl installed? Needs that to run (among other things looking at the site).



From xjakub at fi.muni.cz  Sat May 16 12:55:08 2009
From: xjakub at fi.muni.cz (Milos Jakubicek)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:55:08 +0200
Subject: Nikto broken package and BugZappers introduction
In-Reply-To: <954b158e0905160536t398ac970n53a65d8e6f12b269@mail.gmail.com>
References: <954b158e0905160536t398ac970n53a65d8e6f12b269@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0EB7AC.4020607@fi.muni.cz>

Hi,

On 16.5.2009 14:36, Xia Shing Zee wrote:
> Nikto seems to have a broken package. I tried using yum erase nikto,
> then yum install nikto, just to refresh it if I had somehow messed up
> any files, but the same error still seemed to come up:
>
> [root at localhost~/]# nikto
> - ERROR: Unable to open config file 'config.txt' (No such file or
> directory), only 1 CGI directory defined.
> I can't find 'plugins' directory. I looked around:
>
>      /home/user
>      /usr/bin/nikto
> Try: switch to the 'nikto' base dir, or
> Try: set EXECDIR in config.txt

Confirm...running "nikto -config /etc/nikto/config" where in 
/etc/nikto/config the EXECDIR variable is set to /usr/share/nikto makes 
the thing working.

Please file a bug into BZ with the "EasyFix" keyword and cc me, thanks.

Milos



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sat May 16 13:48:42 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 13:48:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090516 changes
Message-ID: <20090516134842.780981F821E@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sat May 16 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From lsatenstein at yahoo.com  Sat May 16 14:34:14 2009
From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 07:34:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Anaconda for F11 does not provide setting screen resolution for
	installation
Message-ID: <459800.11161.qm@web110701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Given that? "go live" is around the corner but, ....? in doing a second Beta11 installation on a second system I ran into readability problems.

I have trouble reading the installation wording and need to use a magnifying glass. My trinitron crt monitor can support very high resolution (1900 by xxxx) , which anaconda choses to use. This resolution is way too fine for my eyes. At least put an upper limit of 1600x2000 as a resolution for the installation. Better, let me chose the installation resolution so that I have no eyestrain.? I believe that was done for F10, and for other alternate distributions 
?


? 

------------------

Regards  
Mr. Leslie
 Leslie Satenstein
mailto:lsatenstein at yahoo.com 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Introduction
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:02:46 -0700
Size: 2457
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception	save opportunity
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:12:45 -0700
Size: 1411
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0001.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception	save opportunity
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:13:12 -0700
Size: 1233
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0002.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: preupgrade fc10 to fc11
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:36:12 -0700
Size: 2106
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0003.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Sound Problems with Rawhide
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:40:04 -0700
Size: 1698
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0004.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: "G.Wolfe Woodbury" <ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us>
Subject: Re: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception save	opportunity
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:17:40 -0400
Size: 1429
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0005.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception	save opportunity
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:05:48 -0400
Size: 1698
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0006.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: Leslie Satenstein <lsatenstein at yahoo.com>
Subject: Video/Flash  not working as of today on F11 
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:33:08 -0700 (PDT)
Size: 1696
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0007.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: "Wolfgang S. Rupprecht" <wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com>
Subject: F11 nfs4 weirdness - all files nobody.nobody owned
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:03:31 -0700
Size: 1719
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0008.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: what is it with bugzilla ?
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:38:14 -0430
Size: 1185
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0009.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: Rick Stevens <ricks at nerd.com>
Subject: Re: Video/Flash  not working as of today on F11
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:37:27 -0700
Size: 1469
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0010.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Rawhide/F11 install report: install fails without exception	save opportunity
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:39:29 -0400
Size: 1987
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0011.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: Robert L Cochran <cochranb at speakeasy.net>
Subject: USB Device Permissions In Fedora 11
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:13:50 -0400
Size: 1384
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0012.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: "Wolfgang S. Rupprecht" <wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: USB Device Permissions In Fedora 11
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:57:25 -0700
Size: 1719
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0013.eml>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: updates at fedoraproject.org
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 23:36:05 +0000
Size: 15896
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/b13d48b0/attachment-0014.eml>

From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Sat May 16 15:23:37 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 11:23:37 -0400
Subject: x86_64 Thunderbird won't open web pages in F11 test releases
Message-ID: <4A0EDA79.1070602@cox.net>

I seem to recall a discussion about this, but can't find it.  On x86 
installs, clicking a web address works nicely bringing up firefox.  On 
the x86_64 version, nothing.

Could some kind soul enlighten me?

TIA



From xjakub at fi.muni.cz  Sat May 16 15:38:25 2009
From: xjakub at fi.muni.cz (Milos Jakubicek)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:38:25 +0200
Subject: x86_64 Thunderbird won't open web pages in F11 test releases
In-Reply-To: <4A0EDA79.1070602@cox.net>
References: <4A0EDA79.1070602@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4A0EDDF1.3010109@fi.muni.cz>

Works for me on x86_64...do you have really
thunderbird-3.0-2.4.b3pre.hg.6a6386c16e98.fc11.x86_64, don't you have 
any later version?

Milos

On 16.5.2009 17:23, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> I seem to recall a discussion about this, but can't find it.  On x86
> installs, clicking a web address works nicely bringing up firefox. On
> the x86_64 version, nothing.
>
> Could some kind soul enlighten me?
>
> TIA
>



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Sat May 16 15:48:04 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 11:48:04 -0400
Subject: x86_64 Thunderbird won't open web pages in F11 test releases
In-Reply-To: <4A0EDDF1.3010109@fi.muni.cz>
References: <4A0EDA79.1070602@cox.net> <4A0EDDF1.3010109@fi.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <4A0EE034.9050308@cox.net>

On 05/16/2009 11:38 AM, Milos Jakubicek wrote:
> Works for me on x86_64...do you have really
> thunderbird-3.0-2.4.b3pre.hg.6a6386c16e98.fc11.x86_64, don't you have
> any later version?
>
> Milos
>
> On 16.5.2009 17:23, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>> I seem to recall a discussion about this, but can't find it. On x86
>> installs, clicking a web address works nicely bringing up firefox. On
>> the x86_64 version, nothing.
>>
>> Could some kind soul enlighten me?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>

I have the same version...slowly I am recalling the old issue and it was 
the setting for network.protocol-handler.app.http and .https.  What are 
the settings for you?

TIA



From xjakub at fi.muni.cz  Sat May 16 16:12:37 2009
From: xjakub at fi.muni.cz (Milos Jakubicek)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:12:37 +0200
Subject: x86_64 Thunderbird won't open web pages in F11 test releases
In-Reply-To: <4A0EE034.9050308@cox.net>
References: <4A0EDA79.1070602@cox.net> <4A0EDDF1.3010109@fi.muni.cz>
	<4A0EE034.9050308@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4A0EE5F5.3080702@fi.muni.cz>

On 16.5.2009 17:48, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>
> I have the same version...slowly I am recalling the old issue and it was
> the setting for network.protocol-handler.app.http and .https. What are
> the settings for you?
>
> TIA
>

...all of them default strings set to

/usr/lib64/thunderbird-3.0b3pre/open-browser.sh

Cheers,
Milos



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Sat May 16 16:59:41 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 09:59:41 -0700
Subject: f11: firefox locks up gnome-desktop
Message-ID: <877i0hc7b6.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>


I just reproduced this a few times. Firefox locked up my gnome desktop
so hard I had to do a forceful long power-button press to unwedge.  The
system was still up, but the keyboard was non-responsive and
alt-control-f2 didn't get me to an text console.  I also couldn't kill X
with a alt-control-backspace.  Logging in remotely and doing a "shutdown
-r now" also hung at some point after the network connection was closed.

Not even sure what I should be looking for here.  In my case it happened
reliably because firefox saved the state on crashing and when I restored
that state by agreeing to open the old tabs.  I recall I was checking
for add-ons with the small add-on/extension window open when things
locked up.

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              http://www.full-steam.org/  (ipv6-only)
         You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Sat May 16 17:11:59 2009
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 19:11:59 +0200
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
Message-ID: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>

http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/

If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
that Intel drivers are becoming better.

Valent.

-- 
http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/
linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless
registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org.
ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Sat May 16 17:39:31 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 10:39:31 -0700
Subject: f11: firefox locks up gnome-desktop
References: <877i0hc7b6.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>
Message-ID: <87ljox9cbw.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>


"Wolfgang S. Rupprecht" <wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com>
writes:
> I just reproduced this a few times. Firefox locked up my gnome desktop
> so hard I had to do a forceful long power-button press to unwedge. 

More info: Xorg is using up 100% of the cpu cycles and killing it
doesn't help.  A new one gets started but the screen still shows the
last thing it displayed before the lockup.  Xorg.log doesn't have
anything at the end indicating any errors (it just displays the expected
EDID and modline stuff).

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              http://www.full-steam.org/  (ipv6-only)
         You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



From an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com  Sat May 16 18:19:14 2009
From: an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com (Allen Kistler)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 13:19:14 -0500
Subject: Anaconda for F11 does not provide setting screen resolution for
 installation
Message-ID: <4A0F03A2.1050105@yahoo.com>

Leslie Satenstein wrote:
> Given that  "go live" is around the corner but, ....  in doing a second Beta11 installation on a second system I ran into readability problems.
> 
> I have trouble reading the installation wording and need to use a magnifying glass. My trinitron crt monitor can support very high resolution (1900 by xxxx) , which anaconda choses to use. This resolution is way too fine for my eyes. At least put an upper limit of 1600x2000 as a resolution for the installation. Better, let me chose the installation resolution so that I have no eyestrain.  I believe that was done for F10, and for other alternate distributions

Supposedly you should be able to set the resolution with the 
"resolution=<mode>" option to anaconda.  For example,

resolution=1024x768
or
resolution=800x600

I haven't gotten it to work in F11.  There used to be a special case 
option, lowres, which was equivalent to "resolution=640x480" (and also 
didn't work), but after I pointed out elsewhere that it even existed, it 
showed up in the anaconda change log as "removed lowres option."

Anyway, try the resolution option and see if it works for you.



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Sat May 16 18:42:55 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 11:42:55 -0700
Subject: f11: firefox locks up gnome-desktop
References: <877i0hc7b6.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com> <87ljox9cbw.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>
Message-ID: <87zldcevo0.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>



"Wolfgang S. Rupprecht" <wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com>
writes:
> More info: Xorg is using up 100% of the cpu cycles and killing it
> doesn't help.  A new one gets started but the screen still shows the
> last thing it displayed before the lockup.  Xorg.log doesn't have
> anything at the end indicating any errors (it just displays the expected
> EDID and modline stuff).

      https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501125

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              http://www.full-steam.org/  (ipv6-only)
         You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sat May 16 18:47:53 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:47:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [OT?] building and installing python 3.1b1?
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905161443490.10525@localhost.localdomain>


  for pedagogical reasons, i'd like to build and install (from
tarball) python3.1b1 on my f11 system.  since it will, by default,
install under /usr/local/lib, i should be able to do that and play
with it without breaking everything else that currently relies on
python 2.6.

  currently, after a default "./configure", when i run "make," i get:

...
Python build finished, but the necessary bits to build these modules
were not found:
_tkinter
To find the necessary bits, look in setup.py in detect_modules() for
the module's name.
...

  currently, i have the tkinter-2.6 package installed, but i'm
guessing that's not sufficient, and i probably have to download and
install (again from tarball) a compatible version of tkinter.

  help?  anyone done this?  AFAICT, the end result will still work, i
just won't have tkinter capability, and i'd like to get it.  thanks.

rday

p.s.  in any event, it will be interesting to see if those two
versions can co-exist -- 2.6 officially, and 3.1 unofficially.
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From JCasale at activenetwerx.com  Sun May 17 01:19:48 2009
From: JCasale at activenetwerx.com (Joseph L. Casale)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 01:19:48 +0000
Subject: Rawhide Netinstall firewall
Message-ID: <ABF9510930E1374BA4B4C61A01104FBD0BBE99@Monterossa.activenetwerx.local>

I have to start a netinstall for a friend tonight who doesn't have
a firewall or router. What is the default behavior of the netinstall
iso's firewall?

Thanks!
jlc



From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Sun May 17 02:16:05 2009
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:16:05 -0400
Subject: [OT?] building and installing python 3.1b1?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905161443490.10525@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905161443490.10525@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242526565.9875.130.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan>

On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 14:47 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> help?  anyone done this?

I have not tried, but you should just be able to modify this:

http://ivazquez.fedorapeople.org/packages/python3000/python3000-3.0-1.src.rpm

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090516/a3329c4a/attachment.sig>

From ml.mildred593 at gmail.com  Sun May 17 10:33:11 2009
From: ml.mildred593 at gmail.com (Mildred Ki'Lya)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:33:11 +0200
Subject: X11: Maximum number of clients reached
Message-ID: <4A0FE7E7.2030101@gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm running Fedora rawhide since Fedora 11 beta, and everything worked
fine until recently. Now, if I run a session for a few days (I generally
don't log out, I suspend my laptop), after some time, I can't run any X
application anymore. I get the message:

Maximum number of clients reached

If I close some applications, I can continue for some time until the
error triggers again. Then, I have to log out, and start a fresh session.

If I use xlsclients, (after closing an application I'm quite sure
doesn't eat up all connections to the X server, like gmpc), I don't get
such a huge list. Now for example, I get:

$ xlsclients  | wc -l
44

From http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/X12 I can see there is a limit of
256 clients. I hardly reach the limit. But starting xterm for instance
is sufficient to trigger the error again.

Do you have any idea where I can gather information to know which
application is responsible?

As a side note, I'm using the RPM Fusion repository as well (we don't
have software patents in Europe, and I hope it'll stay this way). I also
have the flash player installed (I heard that troubles can come from
there). But I don't think this is the cause of the problem as I don't
visit that often sites containing flash. And the errors happens anyways.

Thanks.

Mildred

-- 
Mildred Ki'Lya
?????????? ???????????????????? ??????????
? Jabber, GoogleTalk: <mildred at jabber.fr>
? Website: <http://ki.lya.online.fr>           GPG ID: 9A7D 2E2B
? Fingerprint: 197C A7E6 645B 4299 6D37 684B 6F9D A8D6 9A7D 2E2B


-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: OpenPGP digital signature
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090517/8e80445a/attachment.sig>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sun May 17 12:20:13 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 08:20:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>


  on my (currently up to date) f11 beta system, every so often while
i'm in gnome, the screen goes black.  no, it's not the screensaver
kicking in after a certain idle period.  i might have just typed
something and, two seconds later, blackness.  move the mouse, i get my
display back.  no harm, just weird.

 i'm currently running the latest radeon driver, with "XAA" in
xorg.conf.  it's not fatal, obviously, just unusual -- i've never had
that behaviour in previous versions of fedora.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sun May 17 13:22:47 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:22:47 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A100FA7.9090006@speakeasy.net>

I have this problem too. In my case I have an Nvidia board in a laptop:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Quadro NVS 160M 
(rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Dell Device 0233
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable)
Memory at f2000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
I/O ports at df00
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: nouveau

This is actually driving two displays -- one is the laptop monitor 
itself and the second is a Dell 2408WFP 24" wide screen flat panel 
monitor. The screen goes black on both these monitors, but the laptop's 
monitor recovers first and the Dell flat panel about 2-3 seconds later. 
The display contents seem to be preserved and there is no visible harm. 
But it is very disconcerting and obviously shouldn't be happening.

Bob



On 05/17/2009 08:20 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>    on my (currently up to date) f11 beta system, every so often while
> i'm in gnome, the screen goes black.  no, it's not the screensaver
> kicking in after a certain idle period.  i might have just typed
> something and, two seconds later, blackness.  move the mouse, i get my
> display back.  no harm, just weird.
>
>   i'm currently running the latest radeon driver, with "XAA" in
> xorg.conf.  it's not fatal, obviously, just unusual -- i've never had
> that behaviour in previous versions of fedora.
>
> rday
> --
>
> ========================================================================
> Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
>
>          Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.
>
> Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
> Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
> Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
> ========================================================================
>
>    



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Sun May 17 13:50:27 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 07:50:27 -0600
Subject: Weird Character Mapping on Evolution on F11 Preview
Message-ID: <1242568227.3430.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

All:

Characters in certain messages I receive (example is subscription mail
from Moody's Bible Institute) have special characters that are not
displaying correctly.

Instead of showing the character (usually commas, apostrophes, and
single / double quotes), it shows a small square box with what appears
to be a hex code inside of it. I'm assuming that this is Evolution's way
of saying, "I give up - since I don't know how to display this
character, I'm going to display the hex code for this character
instead."

The strange part is not not every message does this. I get others with
things like copyright symbols and other special characters just fine.

I've tried changing the character mapping in Evolution to various
alternatives - the default is to use UTF-8. No luck.

Anyone else seeing this or have a way to fix?

Cheers,

Chris

--
====================================================
"Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first;
nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."

--Charles de Gaulle





From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Sun May 17 14:13:53 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:43:53 -0430
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242569633.17226.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 19:11 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/
> 
> If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
> expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
> that Intel drivers are becoming better.

Please don't cross-post. I already saw this on fedora-list, probably
along with everyone else here.

poc



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Sun May 17 14:21:57 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:51:57 -0430
Subject: Weird Character Mapping on Evolution on F11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1242568227.3430.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242568227.3430.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242570117.17226.47.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 07:50 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> All:
> 
> Characters in certain messages I receive (example is subscription mail
> from Moody's Bible Institute) have special characters that are not
> displaying correctly.
> 
> Instead of showing the character (usually commas, apostrophes, and
> single / double quotes), it shows a small square box with what appears
> to be a hex code inside of it. I'm assuming that this is Evolution's way
> of saying, "I give up - since I don't know how to display this
> character, I'm going to display the hex code for this character
> instead."
> 
> The strange part is not not every message does this. I get others with
> things like copyright symbols and other special characters just fine.
> 
> I've tried changing the character mapping in Evolution to various
> alternatives - the default is to use UTF-8. No luck.
> 
> Anyone else seeing this or have a way to fix?

If this happens only on messages from one specific source, it's almost
certainly an encoding problem at the sender's end.

It's also unlikely to be specific to Evo. Try saving the message to a
file and examining it with something else, such as 'less' or 'cat'. Try
looking at the source (Ctrl-U in Evo) and see what the strange
characters are. Try reading the same message with a different client,
e.g. Thunderbird.

If you find it *is* specific to Evo, then post on the Evo list
(evolution-list at gnome.org) and/or report a bug at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org.

poc



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Sun May 17 14:36:44 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 08:36:44 -0600
Subject: Mapping
Message-ID: <1242571004.4981.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

These mapping problems are also occurring in my terminal window.
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From the.masch at gmail.com  Sun May 17 14:40:48 2009
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:40:48 -0300
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <1242569633.17226.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<1242569633.17226.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <93d66b780905170740g12829177t5223507617262518@mail.gmail.com>

Do you know if Fedora is it going to include soon  the 2.7.1 or 2.8 version?

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan at gmail.com
> wrote:

> On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 19:11 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/
> >
> > If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
> > expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
> > that Intel drivers are becoming better.
>
> Please don't cross-post. I already saw this on fedora-list, probably
> along with everyone else here.
>
> poc
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090517/d755a460/attachment.htm>

From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk  Sun May 17 14:56:33 2009
From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 15:56:33 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Weird Character Mapping on Evolution on F11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1242568227.3430.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242568227.3430.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905171550580.16239@vega2.dur.ac.uk>

On Sun, 17 May 2009, Christopher A. Williams wrote:

> Instead of showing the character (usually commas, apostrophes, and
> single / double quotes), it shows a small square box with what appears
> to be a hex code inside of it. I'm assuming that this is Evolution's way
> of saying, "I give up - since I don't know how to display this
> character, I'm going to display the hex code for this character
> instead."

I don't think it is just evolution, as that is the standard way to display 
unicode characters if there isn't a matching character in the selected 
font. It may be that that email is using a different character set and not 
declaring it properly, or it may that there are fonts packages you can add 
so that those characters display correctly.

 	Michael Young



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sun May 17 14:59:02 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:59:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090517 changes
Message-ID: <20090517145903.162E51F8216@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sun May 17 06:15:07 UTC 2009

Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Sun May 17 15:48:05 2009
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:48:05 -0400
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <1242569633.17226.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242569633.17226.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <1242575285.23006.8.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan>

On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 09:43 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 19:11 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/
> > 
> > If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
> > expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
> > that Intel drivers are becoming better.
> 
> Please don't cross-post. I already saw this on fedora-list, probably
> along with everyone else here.

I didn't, because I'm not subscribed to fedora-list.

But to be fair, it should be sent to both mailing lists at the same time
so that mailman can figure out who's already seen it.

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090517/185a30a3/attachment.sig>

From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Sun May 17 18:28:52 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 13:58:52 -0430
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <1242575285.23006.8.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242569633.17226.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1242575285.23006.8.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan>
Message-ID: <1242584932.17226.52.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 11:48 -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 09:43 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 19:11 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > > http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/
> > > 
> > > If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
> > > expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
> > > that Intel drivers are becoming better.
> > 
> > Please don't cross-post. I already saw this on fedora-list, probably
> > along with everyone else here.
> 
> I didn't, because I'm not subscribed to fedora-list.

Your choice, but I'd have to ask why. In a couple of weeks all the F11
stuff is going to go there and not here. It doesn't seem logical to
subscribe to f-t-l and not to f-l, but again, that's your call. I'd be
very surprised if it was the common case.

> But to be fair, it should be sent to both mailing lists at the same time
> so that mailman can figure out who's already seen it.

What makes you think Mailman works like this? There's no indication
whatever that that's what happens. In fact AFAIK Mailman keeps separate
lists entirely separate. There's no reasonable way it could do anything
else, especially if the subscribers to both lists are not identical.

The trouble with cross-posting in this way is that it immediately forks
the threads into two sets of replies. This doesn't do anyone any good.

poc



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Sun May 17 20:49:43 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 13:49:43 -0700
Subject: blackness in Gnome
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905171349m31bf6e7dha396222d8a0c413a@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

I am also having the same thing.  There is no damage or anything failing
afterwards, but every so often -- blackness.  Mine also can be just a second
after I have typed or moved the mouse...

I have an Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 card...

Sincerely,
Rob
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090517/9679036c/attachment.htm>

From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us  Sun May 17 22:57:19 2009
From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:57:19 -0400
Subject: Rawhide install: success
Message-ID: <4A10964F.8030803@wolves.durham.nc.us>

There are a few minor glitches, but the install was successful and 
rebooted ok with firstboot.

The glitch is that during installation some of the characters (the bold 
captions especially) have messed up bitmaps.  Also the final install 
gnome-terminal default font letter 'q' has a few bits missing.

Radeon QD 7200 R11 (ati) video.

-- 
G.Wolfe Woodbury



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Sun May 17 23:01:14 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:31:14 -0430
Subject: Missing 'info' content
Message-ID: <1242601274.17226.58.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On trying to use 'info' under F11, the screen often comes up empty, even
though I know a lot of info files are present.

Specifically, 'info' on its own has no main menu, 'info bash' shows the
Bash introductory page but no menu, 'info gcc' gives the menu (at least
at the first level) and so on, i.e. it's pretty random.

I've never seen this before in any previous version of Fedora.

rpm -V info

seems to check out OK. I'd remove and reinstall info but that would
knock out half the system. It looks like some installation or indexing
didn't get done, but I don't know what.

Any ideas?

poc



From mrmazda at ij.net  Sun May 17 23:54:48 2009
From: mrmazda at ij.net (Felix Miata)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:54:48 -0400
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <1242584932.17226.52.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>	<1242569633.17226.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<1242575285.23006.8.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan>
	<1242584932.17226.52.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A10A3C8.9060700@ij.net>

On 2009/05/17 13:58 (GMT-0430) Patrick O'Callaghan composed:

> On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 11:48 -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:

>> On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 09:43 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

	http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/

>> > Please don't cross-post. I already saw this on fedora-list, probably
>> > along with everyone else here.

>> I didn't, because I'm not subscribed to fedora-list.

> Your choice, but I'd have to ask why. In a couple of weeks all the F11
> stuff is going to go there and not here. It doesn't seem logical to
> subscribe to f-t-l and not to f-l, but again, that's your call. I'd be
> very surprised if it was the common case.

The way I understand it, there are different groups for different interests.
I don't subscribe to f-l. It has too much traffic for my time. Why do we have
multiple lists? Why not just one Fedora list for all posts?

Some threads don't clearly belong on only one list. Without multi-posting in
ambiguous cases, those on only one list where it might fit could easily miss
something important. Suffering the traffic of a high volume list is a high
price to pay to avoid missing something rightly on topic on another list
where traffic is more focused and less voluminous. Better those who agreed in
advance to high volume suffer the occasional multi-post.
-- 
"A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man
keeps himself under control."	Proverbs 29:11 NIV

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/



From jw-bennett at comcast.net  Mon May 18 00:20:09 2009
From: jw-bennett at comcast.net (James W. Bennett)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:20:09 -0500
Subject: Upgrade problem.
Message-ID: <4A10A9B9.5060606@comcast.net>

One week ago this past Saturday -- I upgraded Fedora 11 preview I386. 
After that upgrade when the PC  is left unattended for an hour or so, It 
will not come back. Something is causing it to lock up.  I have to do a 
hard reset and reboot. Up until 05/09/09 upgrade I had no problems. It 
would be unattended several hours a day and come right back. This 
morning I install Fedora 11 preview on another partition  and did not 
upgrade. It was left  unattended several hours and it came right back.  
I don't know what  RPM is the problem. But for sure there is a defective 
RPM element.

I have been watching the mail to see if anyone else has experienced this 
problem but didn't see any. If there were a good way to troubleshoot 
this problem I would do it. Just don't know how. If someone has an Idea 
or this is in a bug report -- I would be glad to hear.

Thank  you;
Jim Bennett



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Mon May 18 00:39:05 2009
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 05:39:05 +0500
Subject: Missing 'info' content
In-Reply-To: <1242601274.17226.58.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1242601274.17226.58.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <78323d480905171739p7a5ac9b7h757338598f05fde@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallaghan at gmail.com> wrote:
> On trying to use 'info' under F11, the screen often comes up empty, even
> though I know a lot of info files are present.
>
> Specifically, 'info' on its own has no main menu, 'info bash' shows the
> Bash introductory page but no menu, 'info gcc' gives the menu (at least
> at the first level) and so on, i.e. it's pretty random.
>
> Any ideas?

#info -k bash

#rpm -qa info

file a bug report


Best

A. Mani

-- 
A. Mani
ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://amani.topcities.com



From bruno at wolff.to  Mon May 18 00:45:49 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:45:49 -0500
Subject: Upgrade problem.
In-Reply-To: <4A10A9B9.5060606@comcast.net>
References: <4A10A9B9.5060606@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20090518004549.GA9993@wolff.to>

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 19:20:09 -0500,
  "James W. Bennett" <jw-bennett at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I have been watching the mail to see if anyone else has experienced this  
> problem but didn't see any. If there were a good way to troubleshoot  
> this problem I would do it. Just don't know how. If someone has an Idea  
> or this is in a bug report -- I would be glad to hear.

For this kind of problem it helps to know what hardware you are running.
The was recently a problem with the nouveau driver for nVidia cards.
If that's what bit you, boot in run level 3 and update to current rawhide.
(This probably a good place to start even if you don't have an nVidia video
card.)



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Mon May 18 00:52:33 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 20:22:33 -0430
Subject: Missing 'info' content
In-Reply-To: <78323d480905171739p7a5ac9b7h757338598f05fde@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1242601274.17226.58.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<78323d480905171739p7a5ac9b7h757338598f05fde@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242607953.3982.4.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 05:39 +0500, Mani A wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> <pocallaghan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On trying to use 'info' under F11, the screen often comes up empty, even
> > though I know a lot of info files are present.
> >
> > Specifically, 'info' on its own has no main menu, 'info bash' shows the
> > Bash introductory page but no menu, 'info gcc' gives the menu (at least
> > at the first level) and so on, i.e. it's pretty random.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> 
> #info -k bash

"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_ALIASES
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_ARGC
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_ARGV
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_CMDS
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_COMMAND
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_ENV
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_EXECUTION_STRING
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_LINENO
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_REMATCH
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_SOURCE
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_SUBSHELL
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_VERSINFO
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASH_VERSION
"(bash)Bash Variables" -- BASHPID
"(bash)Basic Installation" -- Bash configuration
"(bash)Basic Installation" -- Bash installation
"(autoconf)Shellology" -- Bash
"(autoconf)Shellology" -- Bash 2.05 and later
"(cvs)Specifying a repository" -- .bashrc, setting CVSROOT in
"(emacs)Emacs Server" -- Bash command to use Emacs server
"(emacs)Emacs Server" -- emacs.bash
"(kpathsea)configure shells" -- bash, recommended for running configure
"(gettext)bash" -- bash
"(ddd)View Menu" -- Bash Console
"(ddd)Getting Help" -- Bash Reference <1>
"(ddd)Help Menu" -- Bash Reference
"(ddd)GNU Make Initialization" -- bash <1>
"(ddd)Bash Initialization" -- bash
"(ddd)Display Shortcuts" -- bashDisplayShortcuts
"(ddd)Bash Initialization" -- bashInitCommands
"(ddd)Summary" -- Bash
"(ddd)Choosing an Inferior Debugger" -- Bash, invoking DDD with

> #rpm -qa info

info-4.13a-2.fc11.x86_64

> file a bug report

I was only using Bash as an example. There are lots of info topics that
come up empty. I don't think filing a bug against Bash is going to do
much good, or did you mean file against info with Bash as an example?

And what does "info -k" do? It's not documented in "man info" or in info
itself. Oh the humanity ...

poc



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Mon May 18 02:53:51 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 22:53:51 -0400
Subject: Upgrade problem.
In-Reply-To: <4A10A9B9.5060606@comcast.net>
References: <4A10A9B9.5060606@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1242615231.14423.47.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 19:20 -0500, James W. Bennett wrote:
> One week ago this past Saturday -- I upgraded Fedora 11 preview I386. 
> After that upgrade when the PC  is left unattended for an hour or so, It 
> will not come back. Something is causing it to lock up.

Any clues in /var/log/messages?

What services and desktop programs were running when the lockup
occurred?  Was this with a fresh desktop session, or had you been doing
anything interesting (e.g. suspend/resume, update without rebooting)
during the session?

You might try leaving the machine alone for a while again and see if it
happens reproducably.  If not, something may have happened during the
login session to trigger the problem.  If so, you can try disabling
services and see if any of them are the cause.

-B.



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Mon May 18 03:10:44 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 23:10:44 -0400
Subject: Missing 'info' content
In-Reply-To: <1242601274.17226.58.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1242601274.17226.58.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A10D1B4.2010506@speakeasy.net>

In my case I tried:

info bash
info avrdude

in both cases, pressing the space bar of my keyboard (a 101 key Logitech 
brand keyboard sold in the USA) results in another screen-sized "page" 
of content about either bash or avrdude to display. Pressing the "Page 
Up" and "Page Down" keys seems to navigate me backwards and forwards in 
the respective content.

I'm not sure how info is supposed to present content. I'm not real 
expert with using it.

info-4.13a-2.fc11.x86_64

Bob



On 05/17/2009 07:01 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On trying to use 'info' under F11, the screen often comes up empty, even
> though I know a lot of info files are present.
>
> Specifically, 'info' on its own has no main menu, 'info bash' shows the
> Bash introductory page but no menu, 'info gcc' gives the menu (at least
> at the first level) and so on, i.e. it's pretty random.
>
> I've never seen this before in any previous version of Fedora.
>
> rpm -V info
>
> seems to check out OK. I'd remove and reinstall info but that would
> knock out half the system. It looks like some installation or indexing
> didn't get done, but I don't know what.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> poc
>
>    



From tibbs at math.uh.edu  Mon May 18 03:32:46 2009
From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 22:32:46 -0500
Subject: Missing 'info' content
In-Reply-To: <1242601274.17226.58.camel@bree.homelinux.com> (Patrick
	O'Callaghan's message of "Sun\, 17 May 2009 18\:31\:14 -0430")
References: <1242601274.17226.58.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <ufaeiun13xd.fsf@compute22.e.math.uh.edu>

>>>>> "PO" == Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan at gmail.com> writes:

PO> On trying to use 'info' under F11, the screen often comes up
PO> empty, even though I know a lot of info files are present.

Odd, I just tried and I'm seeing that, while /usr/share/info/dir has
plenty of content, simply typing 'info' shows a blank page.  strace
shows that it's opened and read:

stat("/usr/share/info/dir", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=79050, ...}) = 0
stat("/usr/share/info/dir", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=79050, ...}) = 0
open("/usr/share/info/dir", O_RDONLY)   = 3
read(3, "$Id: dir,v 1.2 1996/09/24 18:43:0"..., 79050) = 79050
close(3)                                = 0

The dir file looks OK to me.  I'd guess a bug report is in order.

 - J<



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Mon May 18 05:00:29 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:00:29 +0800
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <1242584932.17226.52.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>	<1242569633.17226.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<1242575285.23006.8.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan>
	<1242584932.17226.52.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A10EB6D.5050601@herakles.homelinux.org>

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>

> stuff is going to go there and not here. It doesn't seem logical to
> subscribe to f-t-l and not to f-l, but again, that's your call. I'd be
> very surprised if it was the common case.

Be surprised. Be very surprised.

The Fedora list has way too much traffic for my taste.
> 
>> But to be fair, it should be sent to both mailing lists at the same time
>> so that mailman can figure out who's already seen it.
> 
> What makes you think Mailman works like this? There's no indication

It does not. It can prevent addressees in any given email on one list 
from getting a copy from the list, but that's as far as it goes.

> whatever that that's what happens. In fact AFAIK Mailman keeps separate
> lists entirely separate. There's no reasonable way it could do anything
> else, especially if the subscribers to both lists are not identical.
> 
> The trouble with cross-posting in this way is that it immediately forks
> the threads into two sets of replies. This doesn't do anyone any good.

That's not so clear to me. Probably, the technical skills of those 
subscribed to this list are more advanced than those on F-L, so 
discussions might well take entirely different paths.

Now, can we please get back to the subject of the original email, and 
dispense with the "crime" of posting it to two lists.



-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Mon May 18 05:19:34 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:19:34 +0800
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A10EFE6.2070904@herakles.homelinux.org>

Valent Turkovic wrote:
> http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/
> 
> If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
> expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
> that Intel drivers are becoming better.
> 
> Valent.
> 


There is something important so many bloggers overlook. If keithp speaks 
in any sense for Intel, that blog should be hosted in a subdomain of 
intel.com. That automatically gives it some cred, because Intel owns 
that space.

Anyone can spend a few dollars and create a website. They can host it 
themselves (as I do) or they can have paid-for hosting with any number 
of hosting sites. Some are low-cost or free - see this for example
http://www.bur.st/

keithp might be legit, he might not be. I've no good way of knowing.

I was going to say I have more personal information about Valent than I 
have about keithp - I know Valent's family name for example, and given 
that name there's a fair probability that Valent speaks Russian ahd 
plays a pretty decent game of chess. But then, we don't really know that 
  much for sure about anyone on the Internet, do we?


All that aside, Intel graphics drivers do need some attention.

-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Mon May 18 05:43:32 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:43:32 +1000
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242625412.18662.55.camel@moose>

On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 19:11 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/
> 
> If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
> expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
> that Intel drivers are becoming better.

Valent,

Thanks for the heads up on this.  (I hadn't seen it before).

As someone experiencing issues with my relatively new intel graphics
chipset (and G41) I'm eager to read anything that might make me feel
that things are actually being done.

In my case, I'm awaiting a rewrite of the AGP Code (or having it pulled
into GEM) to help with my G41 bios having technical issues.

see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499779


R.





From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Mon May 18 05:43:43 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:43:43 +1000
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <4A10EFE6.2070904@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A10EFE6.2070904@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <1242625423.18662.56.camel@moose>

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 13:19 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/
> > 
> > If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
> > expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
> > that Intel drivers are becoming better.
> > 
> > Valent.
> > 
> 
> 
> There is something important so many bloggers overlook. If keithp speaks 
> in any sense for Intel, that blog should be hosted in a subdomain of 
> intel.com. That automatically gives it some cred, because Intel owns 
> that space.
> 
> Anyone can spend a few dollars and create a website. They can host it 
> themselves (as I do) or they can have paid-for hosting with any number 
> of hosting sites. Some are low-cost or free - see this for example
> http://www.bur.st/
> 
> keithp might be legit, he might not be. I've no good way of knowing.
> 
> I was going to say I have more personal information about Valent than I 
> have about keithp - I know Valent's family name for example, and given 
> that name there's a fair probability that Valent speaks Russian ahd 
> plays a pretty decent game of chess. But then, we don't really know that 
>   much for sure about anyone on the Internet, do we?
> 
> 
> All that aside, Intel graphics drivers do need some attention.

John,

A little tongue in cheek on who keithp is?

See maybe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Packard ;-]


R.




From michal at harddata.com  Mon May 18 07:08:21 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 01:08:21 -0600
Subject: Missing 'info' content
In-Reply-To: <78323d480905171739p7a5ac9b7h757338598f05fde@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1242601274.17226.58.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<78323d480905171739p7a5ac9b7h757338598f05fde@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090518070821.GA15415@mail.harddata.com>

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:39:05AM +0500, Mani A wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> <pocallaghan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On trying to use 'info' under F11, the screen often comes up empty, even
> > though I know a lot of info files are present.
> 
> file a bug report

I was already filed on March 29th.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492801
Not that this did much good.

   M.



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Mon May 18 07:34:38 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:34:38 +0300
Subject: yum issues withfc11 64 bit
Message-ID: <4A110F8E.9000601@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Don't know how to explain this. yum update looks like it works; it 
updated 20 megabytes of files (much of this from rpmfusion). But, trying 
to install presto causes problems, it tried to bring in yum-presto.fc9. 
There is definitely something wrong on my machine. Package-cleanup 
--orphans seems to think that all of my fc11 files are orphans. The only 
thing unusual about my system is that I went from fc10 to fc11 by 
preupgrade.



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Mon May 18 10:41:21 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 18:41:21 +0800
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <1242625423.18662.56.camel@moose>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>	<4A10EFE6.2070904@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1242625423.18662.56.camel@moose>
Message-ID: <4A113B51.5020108@herakles.homelinux.org>

Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 13:19 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:


> John,
> 
> A little tongue in cheek on who keithp is?
> 
> See maybe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Packard ;-]

No. I'd never heard of him. He dabbles in different stuff, there's no 
reason I would.

That aside, the point stands. If Keith is speaking for Intel, and in 
talking about the subject he is he might well be, then he should be 
doing so from a site clearly owned by Intel. Doing so establishes 
credibility.

Even knowing he works for Intel (according to his site), one can't tell 
whether his plans are Intel's plans.

I'm not picking on Keith in particular, there's any number of RH and 
Fedora project people who do the same.

If you're part of a well-known team, and you want your own website that 
reflects the work you do as part of that team, make sure your choice of 
domain name (maybe keithp.developer.intel.com or 
keithp.people.freedesktop.org). Intel might prefer to use another domain 
name entirely - intelgraphics.org - that's fine too. It carries the 
company logo, the regular Intel site links to it.

The site looks legitimate, but it could be a well-crafted hoax.

We all know there's a fair bit of nonsense on the Internet. Prudent 
users take some care to evaluate the credibility of what they see. For 
me, taking care includes looking at the domain name. If I am researching 
the toxicity of CCA-treated pine, I would give a document on csiro.au a 
lot more credence than on on roddclarkson.info. Especially when the 
document says it's not very hazardous at all, and the reason it's not so 
useful in fencing yards intended to contain horses is that horses tend 
to chew on the stuff. Doesn't do any apparent harm to horses, but it's 
not very good for the fence.

CCA in this case refers to Chromated Copper Arsenate. As I understand 
it, chromium, copper and arsenic are all toxic. Finding this combination 
pretty safe was surprising.



-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Mon May 18 11:47:00 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 04:47:00 -0700
Subject: Upgrade problem.
References: <4A10A9B9.5060606@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <87vdnyws3v.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>

"James W. Bennett" <jw-bennett at comcast.net> writes:
> One week ago this past Saturday -- I upgraded Fedora 11 preview
> I386. After that upgrade when the PC  is left unattended for an hour
> or so, It will not come back. Something is causing it to lock up.  

Lot in remotely and do a "top".  See if Xorg is using 100% of your CPU
time.  I'm seeing this after only a few minute of using f11-preview on
my laptop.  A forced power down via a long powerbutton press is the only
way to get it to reboot.  A "shutdown -r now" done remotely just hangs.

   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501125

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              http://www.full-steam.org/  (ipv6-only)
         You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Mon May 18 12:09:18 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:09:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: yum issues withfc11 64 bit
In-Reply-To: <4A110F8E.9000601@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <4A110F8E.9000601@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905180808370.13479@localhost.localdomain>



On Mon, 18 May 2009, shmuel siegel wrote:

> Don't know how to explain this. yum update looks like it works; it updated 20 
> megabytes of files (much of this from rpmfusion). But, trying to install 
> presto causes problems, it tried to bring in yum-presto.fc9. There is 
> definitely something wrong on my machine. Package-cleanup --orphans seems to 
> think that all of my fc11 files are orphans. The only thing unusual about my 
> system is that I went from fc10 to fc11 by preupgrade.

did the update entirely complete?

It sounds like you only completed part of the update.
-sv



From ajax at redhat.com  Mon May 18 13:26:40 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:26:40 -0400
Subject: X11: Maximum number of clients reached
In-Reply-To: <4A0FE7E7.2030101@gmail.com>
References: <4A0FE7E7.2030101@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242653200.21675.431.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 12:33 +0200, Mildred Ki'Lya wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running Fedora rawhide since Fedora 11 beta, and everything worked
> fine until recently. Now, if I run a session for a few days (I generally
> don't log out, I suspend my laptop), after some time, I can't run any X
> application anymore. I get the message:
> 
> Maximum number of clients reached
> 
> If I close some applications, I can continue for some time until the
> error triggers again. Then, I have to log out, and start a fresh session.

Check the output of 'sudo lsof -p `pidof Xorg`' when this happens.  This
will show you what file descriptors are in use by the X server.  Last I
checked this error message was misleading, and could mean either "I've
hit the client limit" or "I've run out of file descriptors".

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090518/062b3c90/attachment.sig>

From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Mon May 18 14:04:08 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 14:04:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090518 changes
Message-ID: <20090518140408.DEA051B8003@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Mon May 18 06:15:03 UTC 2009

Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From cra at WPI.EDU  Mon May 18 14:51:58 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:51:58 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <4A100FA7.9090006@speakeasy.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A100FA7.9090006@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <20090518145158.GA15738@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

> On 05/17/2009 08:20 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>    on my (currently up to date) f11 beta system, every so often while
>> i'm in gnome, the screen goes black.  no, it's not the screensaver
>> kicking in after a certain idle period.  i might have just typed
>> something and, two seconds later, blackness.  move the mouse, i get my
>> display back.  no harm, just weird.
>>
>>   i'm currently running the latest radeon driver, with "XAA" in
>> xorg.conf.  it's not fatal, obviously, just unusual -- i've never had
>> that behaviour in previous versions of fedora.

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 09:22:47AM -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I have this problem too. In my case I have an Nvidia board in a laptop:
>
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Quadro NVS 160M  
> (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

Same here.  I've seen it on both my laptop:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 
GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)

and desktop:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon 
X600 (PCIE)]
01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600]



From michal at harddata.com  Mon May 18 15:14:16 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:14:16 -0600
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <20090518145158.GA15738@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A100FA7.9090006@speakeasy.net>
	<20090518145158.GA15738@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <20090518151416.GA2971@mail.harddata.com>

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:51:58AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > On 05/17/2009 08:20 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >>    on my (currently up to date) f11 beta system, every so often while
> >> i'm in gnome, the screen goes black.  no, it's not the screensaver
> >> kicking in after a certain idle period.
> 
> Same here.  I've seen it on both my laptop:
> 
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 
> GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 
> Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
> 
> and desktop:
> 
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon 
> X600 (PCIE)]
> 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600]

Like this?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=243022

I am seeing that at least on one machine with F9 currently installed
on it.  Not as often like with F7 where it was _really_ annoying.
So fra my rawhide test box did not suffer from that but maybe I was
not waiting long enough.

   Michal



From axel.azerty at laposte.net  Mon May 18 15:24:55 2009
From: axel.azerty at laposte.net (Axel)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 17:24:55 +0200
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <20090518145158.GA15738@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>	<4A100FA7.9090006@speakeasy.net>
	<20090518145158.GA15738@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <4A117DC7.60407@laposte.net>

Le 18/05/2009 16:51, Chuck Anderson a ?crit :
> the screen goes black.  no, it's not the screensaver
> >>  kicking in after a certain idle period.  i might have just typed
> >>  something and, two seconds later, blackness.  move the mouse, i get my
> >>  display back.  no harm, just weird.
> >>
> >>     i'm currently running the latest radeon driver, with "XAA" in
> >>  xorg.conf.  it's not fatal, obviously, just unusual -- i've never had
> >>  that behaviour in previous versions of fedora.
>    

This happens 2 or 3 times a day, with a nvidia gpu, using proprietary 
driver and a Hyundai W220D (plugged on the DVI connector) monitor.

udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_10de_407'
   info.linux.driver = 'nvidia'  (string)
   info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_2a01'  (string)
   info.product = 'GeForce 8600M GT'  (string)
   info.subsystem = 'pci'  (string)
   info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_10de_407'  (string)
   info.vendor = 'nVidia Corporation'  (string)
   linux.hotplug_type = 2  (0x2)  (int)
   linux.subsystem = 'pci'  (string)
   linux.sysfs_path = 
'/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0'  (string)
   pci.device_class = 3  (0x3)  (int)
   pci.device_protocol = 0  (0x0)  (int)
   pci.device_subclass = 0  (0x0)  (int)
   pci.linux.sysfs_path = 
'/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0'  (string)
   pci.product = 'GeForce 8600M GT'  (string)
   pci.product_id = 1031  (0x407)  (int)
   pci.subsys_product_id = 5682  (0x1632)  (int)
   pci.subsys_vendor = 'ASUSTeK Computer Inc.'  (string)
   pci.subsys_vendor_id = 4163  (0x1043)  (int)
   pci.vendor = 'nVidia Corporation'  (string)
   pci.vendor_id = 4318  (0x10de)  (int)





From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Mon May 18 16:00:36 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:00:36 -0600
Subject: Weird Character Mapping on Evolution on F11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905171550580.16239@vega2.dur.ac.uk>
References: <1242568227.3430.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905171550580.16239@vega2.dur.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1242662436.4054.21.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 15:56 +0100, M A Young wrote:
> On Sun, 17 May 2009, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> 
> > Instead of showing the character (usually commas, apostrophes, and
> > single / double quotes), it shows a small square box with what appears
> > to be a hex code inside of it. I'm assuming that this is Evolution's way
> > of saying, "I give up - since I don't know how to display this
> > character, I'm going to display the hex code for this character
> > instead."
> 
> I don't think it is just evolution, as that is the standard way to display 
> unicode characters if there isn't a matching character in the selected 
> font. It may be that that email is using a different character set and not 
> declaring it properly, or it may that there are fonts packages you can add 
> so that those characters display correctly.

Indeed! Here's a sample of the HTML source code from an e-mail message I
got today on this. Note that the characters which don't show up are all
the ones that are supposedly encoded to display specific HTML
characters:

        ...but Bishop Fulton Sheen summed it up most succinctly. He was
        reviewing a contract for a television deal when he said with a
        sigh, &#147;The big print giveth, and the fine print taketh
        away.&#148;
        <p>
        It&#146;s understandable when people unfamiliar with the Bible
        balk at the simple offer of salvation in verses like John
        3:16&#151;they want to know,where&#146;s the fine print? While
        the Bible does have more to say about salvation than simply,
        &#147;believe and be saved,&#148; the terms of salvation
        outlined in the Bible don&#146;t constitute a complex web of
        misleading promises.

In each case in the above, everything with a format of &#<some number>;
is supposed to be a specific HTML character - usually a quote,
apostrophe, or something similar. Instead of displaying the appropriate
character, we get a "I give up - I don't know how to display this
character!" message.

In reviewing the source HTML markup, the css definitions (extract below)
call for all of the standard fonts you would normally see and wants to
load ISO8859-1 as the character set. There's nothing out of the ordinary
here at all.

This is definitely happening in ore places than Evolution as well - I
just noticed it there first.

Cheers,

Chris

CSS extract from e-mail message:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<title>Today In The Word &ndash; Moody Bible Institute</title>
<style type="text/css">
<!--
.style1 {
        font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
        font-size: 14px;
}
.style2 {
        font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
        font-size: 14px;
        font-weight: bold;
        color: #003366;
}
.style3 {font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 14px;
font-style: italic; }
.style4 {
        font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
        font-weight: bold;
        font-size: 16px;
}
.style5 {
        font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
        font-size: 16px;
        font-style: italic;
        font-weight: bold;
        color: #003366;
}
.style6 {
        font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
        font-size: 12px;


-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein





From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Mon May 18 16:24:54 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:54:54 -0430
Subject: Missing 'info' content
In-Reply-To: <20090518070821.GA15415@mail.harddata.com>
References: <1242601274.17226.58.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<78323d480905171739p7a5ac9b7h757338598f05fde@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090518070821.GA15415@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <1242663894.3982.12.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 01:08 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:39:05AM +0500, Mani A wrote:
> > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> > <pocallaghan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On trying to use 'info' under F11, the screen often comes up empty, even
> > > though I know a lot of info files are present.
> > 
> > file a bug report
> 
> I was already filed on March 29th.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492801
> Not that this did much good.

OK, I added a "me too".

poc



From ricks at nerd.com  Mon May 18 16:31:04 2009
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:31:04 -0700
Subject: Video/Flash  not working as of today on F11
In-Reply-To: <4A0E700E.3090901@gmail.com>
References: <870419.98309.qm@web110702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>	<4A0DE097.5020302@nerd.com>
	<4A0E700E.3090901@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A118D48.5060608@nerd.com>

Aioanei Rares wrote:
> Rick Stevens wrote:
>> Leslie Satenstein wrote:
>>> With the external flash from Adobe, all was working well until today. 
>>> Now I have sound, but no video.  Same problem with F10.  The video 
>>> card is onboard intel 810 Mother board d945gnt.
>>>
>>> Best linux compatible motherboard I have owned.  
>>
>> Gee, my Gigabyte GA-M55PLUS-S3G (Opteron 1210) and my ASUStek M3N78-VM
>> (Phenom X4) boards work very well, too (both nVidia chipsets).
>>
> So what? You're not quite helping the man, I see.

Just commenting on other MBs that work fine.  Unfortunately, the only
Intel graphics machine I have is an HP laptop.  A lot of threads on this
list have indicated that there were (emphasis on the "were") a large
number of teething problems with F11 and Intel graphics.  I think most
have been ironed out.

I've have problems with Flash under Linux a lot.  The most common issue
has been that the plugin won't allow me any control over things such as
the webcam or mic.  Under Firefox, the controls are greyed out.  Under
Konqueror you can't dismiss the control window at all.  Under Opera you
can't even open the control window.  All using the same plugin.  I'm not
fond of Flash, and Adobe is, shall we say, less than responsive to bug
reports about Linux instances (especially the 64-bit version).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer                      ricks at nerd.com -
- AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 22643734            Yahoo: origrps2 -
-                                                                    -
----------------------------------------------------------------------



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Mon May 18 16:28:50 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:58:50 -0430
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <4A10EB6D.5050601@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242569633.17226.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1242575285.23006.8.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan>
	<1242584932.17226.52.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A10EB6D.5050601@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <1242664130.3982.15.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 13:00 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> Probably, the technical skills of those subscribed to this list are
> more advanced than those on F-L

As you say, be surprised, be very surprised ...

And BTW:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#Do_not_Cross_Post

I'll say no more.

poc



From idht4n at gmail.com  Mon May 18 16:32:54 2009
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:32:54 -0700
Subject: gdb crash in f11-preview
Message-ID: <b79371120905180932r5ad388e4v203f0a763875ace@mail.gmail.com>

When I run gdb under emacs and attach to a gdbserver session,
I get an error like this:

A problem internal to GDB has been detected,
further debugging may prove unreliable.
Quit this debugging session? (y or n) y
../../gdb/findvar.c:300: internal-error: value_of_register_lazy:
Assertion `frame_id_p (get_frame_id (frame))' failed.
A problem internal to GDB has been detected,
further debugging may prove unreliable.
Create a core file of GDB? (y or n) y

It seems to only happen when I run under emacs and use gdbserver,
so I don't know if it's a gdb problem or an emacs problem.  It happens
even with a simple little hello.cpp application:

gcc -g -o hellof11 hello.c
gdbserver localhost:9100 hellof11

Then, from an emacs window:

M-x gdb
gdb --annotate=3 hellof11
target remote localhost:9100
cont



I haven't filed a bug report yet... any thoughts on the proper
component?  gdbserver? gdb? emacs?  Can anybody else
reproduce this?

Thanks,

                 David



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Mon May 18 16:34:58 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:04:58 -0430
Subject: X11: Maximum number of clients reached
In-Reply-To: <1242653200.21675.431.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <4A0FE7E7.2030101@gmail.com>
	<1242653200.21675.431.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1242664498.3982.16.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 09:26 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 12:33 +0200, Mildred Ki'Lya wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm running Fedora rawhide since Fedora 11 beta, and everything worked
> > fine until recently. Now, if I run a session for a few days (I generally
> > don't log out, I suspend my laptop), after some time, I can't run any X
> > application anymore. I get the message:
> > 
> > Maximum number of clients reached
> > 
> > If I close some applications, I can continue for some time until the
> > error triggers again. Then, I have to log out, and start a fresh session.
> 
> Check the output of 'sudo lsof -p `pidof Xorg`' when this happens.  This
> will show you what file descriptors are in use by the X server.  Last I
> checked this error message was misleading, and could mean either "I've
> hit the client limit" or "I've run out of file descriptors".

That would be:

su -c lsof -p `pidof X`

poc



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Mon May 18 16:42:26 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:12:26 -0430
Subject: Weird Character Mapping on Evolution on F11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1242662436.4054.21.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242568227.3430.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905171550580.16239@vega2.dur.ac.uk>
	<1242662436.4054.21.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242664946.3982.21.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 10:00 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> In each case in the above, everything with a format of &#<some
> number>;
> is supposed to be a specific HTML character - usually a quote,
> apostrophe, or something similar. Instead of displaying the
> appropriate
> character, we get a "I give up - I don't know how to display this
> character!" message.

That's because ISO-8859-1 doesn't contain these character codes. The
problem comes from the sender.

See http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/sgml/entities.html

poc



From billcrawford1970 at gmail.com  Mon May 18 17:06:14 2009
From: billcrawford1970 at gmail.com (Bill Crawford)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 18:06:14 +0100
Subject: Weird Character Mapping on Evolution on F11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <1242662436.4054.21.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242568227.3430.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905171550580.16239@vega2.dur.ac.uk>
	<1242662436.4054.21.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A119586.5080209@googlemail.com>

Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 15:56 +0100, M A Young wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 May 2009, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Instead of showing the character (usually commas, apostrophes, and
>>> single / double quotes), it shows a small square box with what appears
>>> to be a hex code inside of it. I'm assuming that this is Evolution's way
>>> of saying, "I give up - since I don't know how to display this
>>> character, I'm going to display the hex code for this character
>>> instead."
>> I don't think it is just evolution, as that is the standard way to display 
>> unicode characters if there isn't a matching character in the selected 
>> font. It may be that that email is using a different character set and not 
>> declaring it properly, or it may that there are fonts packages you can add 
>> so that those characters display correctly.
> 
> Indeed! Here's a sample of the HTML source code from an e-mail message I
> got today on this. Note that the characters which don't show up are all
> the ones that are supposedly encoded to display specific HTML
> characters:
> 
>         ...but Bishop Fulton Sheen summed it up most succinctly. He was
>         reviewing a contract for a television deal when he said with a
>         sigh, &#147;The big print giveth, and the fine print taketh
>         away.&#148;
>         <p>
>         It&#146;s understandable when people unfamiliar with the Bible
>         balk at the simple offer of salvation in verses like John
>         3:16&#151;they want to know,where&#146;s the fine print? While
>         the Bible does have more to say about salvation than simply,
>         &#147;believe and be saved,&#148; the terms of salvation
>         outlined in the Bible don&#146;t constitute a complex web of
>         misleading promises.

These are probably "windows 1252" rather than latin1 encoding. Try 
changing it in the message display if you can.




From cra at WPI.EDU  Mon May 18 19:24:55 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:24:55 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <20090518151416.GA2971@mail.harddata.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A100FA7.9090006@speakeasy.net>
	<20090518145158.GA15738@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<20090518151416.GA2971@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <20090518192455.GD4646@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 09:14:16AM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:51:58AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > > On 05/17/2009 08:20 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > >>    on my (currently up to date) f11 beta system, every so often while
> > >> i'm in gnome, the screen goes black.  no, it's not the screensaver
> > >> kicking in after a certain idle period.
> > 
> > Same here.  I've seen it on both my laptop:
> > 
> > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 
> > GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
> > 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 
> > Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
> > 
> > and desktop:
> > 
> > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon 
> > X600 (PCIE)]
> > 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600]
> 
> Like this?
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=243022
> 
> I am seeing that at least on one machine with F9 currently installed
> on it.  Not as often like with F7 where it was _really_ annoying.
> So fra my rawhide test box did not suffer from that but maybe I was
> not waiting long enough.

No, not like that at all.  The black outs I've seen are not 
accompanied by log messages.  So much has changed since 2007 that it 
is probably worthwhile opening a new bug.



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Mon May 18 21:24:24 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 17:24:24 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-05-19
Message-ID: <4A11D208.40604@gmail.com>

Bug Triage Meeting
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
Tuesday @ 15:00 UTC/11 AM EST

Agenda for 2009-05-19
minutes form the last meeting: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-12


* 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11#Qualifying_Criteria 
- Follow up from last weeks meeting.

* 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11#Fedora_9_EOL_Warning 
- To be completed on 2009-05-25.

* Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/ - 
Update on the progress of the metrics.

* Severity/priority - 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend - Follow up on 
Adam's email request for choosing which method to use going forward. Set 
both severity and priority, or just severity.


See you Tomorrow.
TK009



From michal at harddata.com  Mon May 18 21:32:01 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:32:01 -0600
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <20090518192455.GD4646@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A100FA7.9090006@speakeasy.net>
	<20090518145158.GA15738@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<20090518151416.GA2971@mail.harddata.com>
	<20090518192455.GD4646@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <20090518213201.GA32134@mail.harddata.com>

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 03:24:55PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 09:14:16AM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> > 
> > Like this?
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=243022
> 
> No, not like that at all.  The black outs I've seen are not 
> accompanied by log messages.

A hypothetical correlation of blackouts and log entries is most
likely bogus.  Logs of X are unfortunately not time stamped.
I do not think I can find anything of that sort for what I am
observing _right now_ with F9 installation. The gist of the issue
is that a monitor signal from time to time seems to disappear,
without any observable reason, for a short few seconds and this was
not happening at all some years ago.

> So much has changed since 2007 that it 
> is probably worthwhile opening a new bug.

I have doubts about real changes in this area but by any means open
a new bug.

   Michal



From lsatenstein at yahoo.com  Mon May 18 21:48:11 2009
From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 14:48:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Can Fedora 11 with Free/NonFree play this item
Message-ID: <424955.17091.qm@web110702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

http://www.tetesaclaques.tv/les_pirates_vid1651


------------------

Regards  
Mr. Leslie
 Leslie Satenstein

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090518/61704eb7/attachment.htm>

From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Mon May 18 22:25:15 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 18:25:15 -0400
Subject: Can Fedora 11 with Free/NonFree play this item
In-Reply-To: <424955.17091.qm@web110702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <424955.17091.qm@web110702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A11E04B.3090108@gmail.com>

Leslie Satenstein wrote:
> http://www.tetesaclaques.tv/les_pirates_vid1651
>
>
> *------------------
>
> *
>
> Regards
>
> *
> Mr. Leslie
> *
> *Leslie Satenstein
> *
>
With flash, yes it can.



From poelstra at redhat.com  Mon May 18 23:36:11 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:36:11 -0700
Subject: Upcoming Bugzilla Changes
In-Reply-To: <20090513094200.GB15484@redhat.com>
References: <4A0A4969.6070207@redhat.com> <20090513094200.GB15484@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A11F0EB.5070505@redhat.com>

Daniel P. Berrange said the following on 05/13/2009 02:42 AM Pacific Time:
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 09:15:37PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
>> Summer is almost here and things are about to heat up (at least here in
>> the Northern Hemisphere!) with the release of Fedora 11. With each new
>> Fedora release comes some Bugzilla housekeeping.  This e-mail is
>> designed to let you know about two things happening around May 26, 2009
>> (Fedora 11 day) and what you need to do, if anything.
>>
>> (1) We will be automatically changing the version all rawhide bugs to
>> Fedora 11.  This will result in regular bugs reported against rawhide
>> during the Fedora 11 development cycle being changed to version '11'
>> instead of their current assignment, 'rawhide'.  This is done in order
>> to more accurately tell where in the lineage of releases the bug was
>> last reported because over time 'rawhide' becomes ambiguous.
>>
>> Note that this procedure does not apply to bugs that are against
>> component 'Package Review' or bugs that have the 'FutureFeature' or
>> 'Tracking' keywords set. They will stay open as rawhide bugs indefinitely.
>>
>> If you do not want your bugs changed to version '11', add the
>> FutureFeature keyword. If you need help changing a large amount of bugs
>> manually, we'd be glad to help. Stop by #fedora-bugzappers on
>> irc.freenode.net and we'll help you.
>
> Having to set 2 keywords on every bug is rather tedious&  inevitably bugs
> will be missed. Can you just add 'F12VirtTarget' to the list of keywords
> you use to exclude bugs from this change.
>

Added :)

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11#Qualifying_Criteria

John



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Tue May 19 00:28:16 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 03:28:16 +0300
Subject: yum issues withfc11 64 bit
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905180808370.13479@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A110F8E.9000601@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905180808370.13479@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A11FD20.4010704@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Seth Vidal wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 18 May 2009, shmuel siegel wrote:
>
>> Don't know how to explain this. yum update looks like it works; it 
>> updated 20 megabytes of files (much of this from rpmfusion). But, 
>> trying to install presto causes problems, it tried to bring in 
>> yum-presto.fc9. There is definitely something wrong on my machine. 
>> Package-cleanup --orphans seems to think that all of my fc11 files 
>> are orphans. The only thing unusual about my system is that I went 
>> from fc10 to fc11 by preupgrade.
>
> did the update entirely complete?
>
> It sounds like you only completed part of the update.
> -sv
>
Messages from yum said that everything completed except one time when it 
was having problems with keys from rpmfusion. But update worked after 
that. Rebooting didn't help. rpm-complete-transaction didn't find 
anything to do. So last resort, rpm clean all fixed the problem. Please 
let me know if you want any other information that I can provide.



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 19 02:13:38 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 02:13:38 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090519021338.C4F7C10F8B1@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    dbus-cxx-0.1.1-1.fc9
    firmware-addon-dell-2.1.2-4.3.fc9
    firmware-tools-2.1.5-1.1.fc9
    haproxy-1.3.18-1.fc9
    html-xml-utils-5.3-1.fc9
    kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-2.fc9
    kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-3.fc9
    kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc9
    kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc9
    kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc9
    kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc9
    ristretto-0.0.22-1.fc9
    scala-2.7.4-1.fc9
    xine-ui-0.99.5-10.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 dbus-cxx-0.1.1-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5135)
 C++ bindings for the DBus library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is the initial release of the dbus-cxx library.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 firmware-addon-dell-2.1.2-4.3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5066)
 A firmware-tools plugin to handle BIOS/Firmware for Dell systems
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update required for new API provided by firmware-tools > 2.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 2.1.2-4.3
- rebase to latest upstream
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.4.8-2.2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 1.4.8-2.1
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #454204 - firmware-tools needs a bump
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454204
  [ 2 ] Bug #499260 - firmware-tools and firmware-addon-dell are out of date
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499260
  [ 3 ] Bug #499939 - yum segfault during plugin load - can't update
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499939
  [ 4 ] Bug #487690 - version in rawhide too old
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487690
  [ 5 ] Bug #468637 - firmware-tools and firmware-addon-dell too old to flash newer bioses
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468637
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 firmware-tools-2.1.5-1.1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5109)
 Scripts and tools to manage firmware and BIOS updates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Significant rewrite by upstream. Necessary for updating  Dell BIOS whose
payloads now require firmware-tools > 2.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 2.1.5-1.1
- rebase to upstream release
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.5.6-2.2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 1.5.6-2.1
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #454204 - firmware-tools needs a bump
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454204
  [ 2 ] Bug #499260 - firmware-tools and firmware-addon-dell are out of date
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499260
  [ 3 ] Bug #499939 - yum segfault during plugin load - can't update
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499939
  [ 4 ] Bug #487690 - version in rawhide too old
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487690
  [ 5 ] Bug #468637 - firmware-tools and firmware-addon-dell too old to flash newer bioses
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468637
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 haproxy-1.3.18-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5079)
 HA-Proxy is a TCP/HTTP reverse proxy for high availability environments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner <jeremy at hinegardner dot org> 1.3.18-1
-  update to 1.3.18
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 html-xml-utils-5.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5084)
 A number of simple utilities for manipulating HTML and XML files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to 5.3: many bugfixes, most binaries have now a "hx" prefix - Removed
Conflicts: surfraw, normalize - Fixed license tag: W3C
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 16 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 5.3-1
- Update to 5.3: many bugfixes, most binaries have now a "hx" prefix
- Removed Conflicts: surfraw, normalize
- Fixed license tag: W3C
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-4
- get rid of the dependency of system-config-printer
- drop the BR on PyKDE4, system-config-printer-libs
  it's just needed for runtime
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- fix #496646, system-config-printer-kde doesn't start
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- toolbar text under icons cut off (kde#186340)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.3-3
- check for network availability through Solid/NM in the weather dataengine
* Wed May  6 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- Requires: oxygen-icon-theme >= 4.2.2
- fix oxygen-cursor-themes noarch'ness
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- include more(all) csharp/qyoto .pc files snarfed from trunk/,
  to match how everyone (except upstream) is shipping (#490555)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.2-5
- F11+: enable csharp on ppc64
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.2-4
- reenable csharp on ppc
* Wed Apr  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-3
- enable csharp only on archs supported by mono (ie, drop ppc)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-3
- kde4.(sh|csh): drop QT_PLUGINS_PATH munging, kde4-config call (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- better fix for strcasestr detection
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-13
- upstream patch to fix GCC4.4 crashes in kjs
  (kdebug:189809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4763)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in
KHTML - painting and interoperability with web standards has been further
improved.    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-4
- revert -printer-applet dep changes (and drop for f11+)
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- drop the BR on PyKDE4, system-config-printer-libs
  it's just needed for runtime
- fix kdeutils-printer-applet dependency
- apply upstream patch to fix several issues in ark
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ristretto-0.0.22-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5127)
 Image-viewer for the Xfce desktop environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a bugfix release from upstream. The cache is finally implemented
correctly, the size of images is calculated correctly and the memory leaks are
plugged.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 15 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.0.22-1
- Update to 0.0.22
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.0.21-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 scala-2.7.4-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5138)
 A hybrid functional/object-oriented language for the JVM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Scala 2.7.4 is the latest upstream release. This was a maintenance bug-fixing
release, aimed at improving stability; no language changes were introduced. For
a complete list of bugs fixed see http://www.scala-lang.org/node/1593
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-1
- update to 2.7.4 final
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #476938 - jline not in scala's classpath
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476938
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xine-ui-0.99.5-10.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5095)
 A skinned xlib-based gui for xine-lib
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release in Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501006 - Review Request: xine-ui - A skinned xlib-based gui for xine-lib
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501006
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 19 02:13:39 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 02:13:39 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090519021339.04BEB10F8B3@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    apcupsd-3.14.6-1.fc10
    atari++-1.56-1.fc10
    cnetworkmanager-0.8.4-2.fc10
    dbus-cxx-0.1.1-1.fc10
    firmware-addon-dell-2.1.2-4.3.fc10
    firmware-tools-2.1.5-1.1.fc10
    gallery2-2.3-10.fc10
    guidance-power-manager-4.2.3-1.fc10
    haproxy-1.3.18-1.fc10
    html-xml-utils-5.3-1.fc10
    kcoloredit-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-2.fc10
    kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-3.fc10
    kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc10
    kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc10
    kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdepim-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kgrab-0.1.1-15.fc10
    kiconedit-4.2.3-2.fc10
    konq-plugins-4.2.3-1.fc10
    kopete-cryptography-1.3.0-9.fc10
    mingw32-cairomm-1.8.0-1.fc10
    net-snmp-5.4.2.1-4.fc10
    peppy-0.9.86-1.fc10
    perl-B-Hooks-OP-Check-0.17-1.fc10
    perl-IO-Tty-1.08-1.fc10
    perl-Module-Util-1.07-1.fc10
    perl-Scope-Upper-0.08-1.fc10
    perl-Text-RecordParser-1.3.0-1.fc10
    ristretto-0.0.22-1.fc10
    rpmdepsize-1.0-3.fc10
    scala-2.7.4-1.fc10
    wannier90-1.1-4.fc10
    xine-ui-0.99.5-10.fc10
    zabbix-1.6.4-3.fc10
    zerofree-1.0.1-5.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 apcupsd-3.14.6-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5077)
 APC UPS Power Control Daemon for Linux
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> - 3.14.6-1
- update to 3.14.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 atari++-1.56-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5097)
 Unix based emulator of the Atari eight bit computers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to version 1.56
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> 1.56-1
- update to version 1.56
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.55-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cnetworkmanager-0.8.4-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5090)
 Command-line client for NetworkManager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A command line NetworkManager client in python.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500437 - Review Request: cnetworkmanager - Command-line client for NetworkManager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500437
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dbus-cxx-0.1.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5110)
 C++ bindings for the DBus library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is the initial release of the dbus-cxx library.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 firmware-addon-dell-2.1.2-4.3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5117)
 A firmware-tools plugin to handle BIOS/Firmware for Dell systems
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update required for new API provided by firmware-tools > 2.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 2.1.2-4.3
- rebase to latest upstream
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.4.8-2.2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 1.4.8-2.1
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #454204 - firmware-tools needs a bump
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454204
  [ 2 ] Bug #499260 - firmware-tools and firmware-addon-dell are out of date
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499260
  [ 3 ] Bug #499939 - yum segfault during plugin load - can't update
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499939
  [ 4 ] Bug #487690 - version in rawhide too old
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487690
  [ 5 ] Bug #468637 - firmware-tools and firmware-addon-dell too old to flash newer bioses
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468637
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 firmware-tools-2.1.5-1.1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5143)
 Scripts and tools to manage firmware and BIOS updates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Significant rewrite by upstream. Necessary for updating  Dell BIOS whose
payloads now require firmware-tools > 2.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 2.1.5-1.1
- rebase to upstream release
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.5.6-2.2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 1.5.6-2.1
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #454204 - firmware-tools needs a bump
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454204
  [ 2 ] Bug #499260 - firmware-tools and firmware-addon-dell are out of date
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499260
  [ 3 ] Bug #499939 - yum segfault during plugin load - can't update
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499939
  [ 4 ] Bug #487690 - version in rawhide too old
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487690
  [ 5 ] Bug #468637 - firmware-tools and firmware-addon-dell too old to flash newer bioses
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468637
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gallery2-2.3-10.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5146)
 Customizable photo gallery web site
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Scripting fix, do code or DB changes. Fix for symlink handling.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-10
- Fine-tuning of symlink script.
* Fri May  1 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-9
- Add rewrite dep for httpauth, BZ 498061.
- Adopt rdieter's symlink handling suggestions from rel-eng #1674.
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-8
- pretrans script logic fix. BZ498019.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498334 - Missing smarty link or wrong absolute path to smarty class in gallery2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498334
  [ 2 ] Bug #498061 - Can't activate gallery2-httpauth
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498061
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 guidance-power-manager-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5131)
 KDE Power Manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Various new bugfix extragear releases for kde-4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 haproxy-1.3.18-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5139)
 HA-Proxy is a TCP/HTTP reverse proxy for high availability environments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner <jeremy at hinegardner dot org> 1.3.18-1
-  update to 1.3.18
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 html-xml-utils-5.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5088)
 A number of simple utilities for manipulating HTML and XML files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to 5.3: many bugfixes, most binaries have now a "hx" prefix - Removed
Conflicts: surfraw, normalize - Fixed license tag: W3C
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 16 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 5.3-1
- Update to 5.3: many bugfixes, most binaries have now a "hx" prefix
- Removed Conflicts: surfraw, normalize
- Fixed license tag: W3C
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kcoloredit-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5131)
 A color palette Editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Various new bugfix extragear releases for kde-4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Sebastian Vahl <fedora at deadbabylon.de> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Jan 23 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.0-1
- 4.2.0
* Mon Nov 17 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 4.1.3-2
- dependency fixes, cosmetics
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-4
- get rid of the dependency of system-config-printer
- drop the BR on PyKDE4, system-config-printer-libs
  it's just needed for runtime
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- fix #496646, system-config-printer-kde doesn't start
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- toolbar text under icons cut off (kde#186340)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.3-3
- check for network availability through Solid/NM in the weather dataengine
* Wed May  6 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- Requires: oxygen-icon-theme >= 4.2.2
- fix oxygen-cursor-themes noarch'ness
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- include more(all) csharp/qyoto .pc files snarfed from trunk/,
  to match how everyone (except upstream) is shipping (#490555)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.2-5
- F11+: enable csharp on ppc64
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.2-4
- reenable csharp on ppc
* Wed Apr  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-3
- enable csharp only on archs supported by mono (ie, drop ppc)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-3
- kde4.(sh|csh): drop QT_PLUGINS_PATH munging, kde4-config call (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- better fix for strcasestr detection
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-13
- upstream patch to fix GCC4.4 crashes in kjs
  (kdebug:189809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 PIM (Personal Information Manager) applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-4
- drop extraneous BR's, including libmal-devel (not currently used)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4786)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-4
- revert -printer-applet dep changes (and drop for f11+)
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- drop the BR on PyKDE4, system-config-printer-libs
  it's just needed for runtime
- fix kdeutils-printer-applet dependency
- apply upstream patch to fix several issues in ark
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kgrab-0.1.1-15.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5131)
 A screen grabbing utility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Various new bugfix extragear releases for kde-4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Sebastian Vahl <fedora at deadbabylon.de> - 0.1.1-15
- 4.2.3
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.1-14
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Jan 23 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 0.1.1-13
- 4.2.0
* Fri Dec  5 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.1.1-12
- rebuild for fixed kde-filesystem (macros.kde4) (get rid of rpaths)
* Thu Dec  4 2008 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.1-11
- Include /usr/share/kde4/apps/kgrab directory.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kiconedit-4.2.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5131)
 An icon editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Various new bugfix extragear releases for kde-4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 4.2.3-2
- fix %_docdir/HTML/<lang> ownership
* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
- optimize scriptlets
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Jan 23 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.0-1
- 4.2.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 konq-plugins-4.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5131)
 Additional plugins that interact with konqueror
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Various new bugfix extragear releases for kde-4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kopete-cryptography-1.3.0-9.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5131)
 Encrypts and signs messages in Kopete using the OpenPGP
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Various new bugfix extragear releases for kde-4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.0-9
- 1.3.0-kde4.2.3
- cleanup docdir/HTML ownership
- sync from F-10 branch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-cairomm-1.8.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5104)
 MinGW Windows C++ API for the cairo graphics library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to match native version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Thomas Sailer <t.sailer at alumni.ethz.ch> - 1.8.0-1
- update to 1.8.0, to match native
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 net-snmp-5.4.2.1-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5062)
 A collection of SNMP protocol tools and libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix divisionby zero in processing of CPU statistics.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Jan Safranek <jsafranek at redhat.com> 5.4.2.1-4
- fix divison-by-zero in cpu statistics
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501210 - net-snmp SIGFPE 0x00002aaaab37744a in var_hrproc (vp=0x7fffffffbf50
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501210
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 peppy-0.9.86-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5144)
 Editor written in python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

new upstream release and add R: wxPython peppy - Editor written in python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497572 - Review Request: peppy - Editor written in python
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497572
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-B-Hooks-OP-Check-0.17-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5121)
 Wrap OP check callbacks
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.17-1
- auto-update to 0.17 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-IO-Tty-1.08-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5098)
 Perl interface to pseudo tty's
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Feb 25 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> - 1.08-1
- Update to 1.08 (add support for posix_openpt())
- Fix argument order for find with -depth
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Module-Util-1.07-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5136)
 Module name tools and transformations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.07-1
- auto-update to 1.07 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.05-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Scope-Upper-0.08-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5099)
 Act on upper scopes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.08-1
- auto-update to 0.08 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- filter private Perl so provides
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.07-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-RecordParser-1.3.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5151)
 Read record-oriented files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.3.0-1
- auto-update to 1.3.0 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(List::Util) (version 0)
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.2.1-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ristretto-0.0.22-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5100)
 Image-viewer for the Xfce desktop environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a bugfix release from upstream. The cache is finally implemented
correctly, the size of images is calculated correctly and the memory leaks are
plugged.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 15 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.0.22-1
- Update to 0.0.22
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.0.21-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rpmdepsize-1.0-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5096)
 A tool for visualizing RPM dependencies
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release of package in Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498748 - Review Request: rpmdepsize - A tool for visualizing RPM dependencies
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498748
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 scala-2.7.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5142)
 A hybrid functional/object-oriented language for the JVM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Scala 2.7.4 is the latest upstream release. This was a maintenance bug-fixing
release, aimed at improving stability; no language changes were introduced. For
a complete list of bugs fixed see http://www.scala-lang.org/node/1593
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-1
- update to 2.7.4 final
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #476938 - jline not in scala's classpath
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476938
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wannier90-1.1-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5115)
 Maximally-localised Wannier functions
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496880 - Review Request: wannier90 - Maximally-localised Wannier functions
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496880
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xine-ui-0.99.5-10.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5055)
 A skinned xlib-based gui for xine-lib
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release in Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501006 - Review Request: xine-ui - A skinned xlib-based gui for xine-lib
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501006
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 zabbix-1.6.4-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5141)
 Open-source monitoring solution for your IT infrastructure
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Tighten configuration file permissions. - Ensure zero exit status from
scriptlets. - Improve init script LSB compliance. - Restart running services on
package upgrades. - make the -docs subpackage noarch - update to 1.6.4 - remove
the cpustat patch, it was integreated into upstream - use noarch subpackage for
the web interface - database specific web subpackages conflicts with each other
- use common set of option for the configure macro - enable IPMI support -
sqlite web subpackage must depend on local sqlite - reorganize the docs and the
sql scripts - change how the web interface config file is created - updated
scriptlet for adding the zabbix user - move the documentation in PDF to -docs
subpackage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 17 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 1.6.4-3
- Tighten configuration file permissions.
- Ensure zero exit status from scriptlets.
- Improve init script LSB compliance.
- Restart running services on package upgrades.
* Thu Apr  9 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> - 1.6.4-2
- make the -docs subpackage noarch
* Thu Apr  9 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> - 1.6.4-1
- update to 1.6.4
- remove the cpustat patch, it was integreated into upstream
- use noarch subpackage for the web interface
- database specific web subpackages conflicts with each other
- use common set of option for the configure macro
- enable IPMI support
- sqlite web subpackage must depend on local sqlite
- reorganize the docs and the sql scripts
- change how the web interface config file is created
- updated scriptlet for adding the zabbix user
- move the documentation in PDF to -docs subpackage
- most of the changes were submitted by Ville Skytt? in #494706 
- Resolves: #489673, #493234, #494706
* Mon Mar  9 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 1.6.2-5
- Update pre patch due to incomplete fix for security problems.
* Wed Mar  4 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 1.6.2-4
- Update to a SVN snapshot of the upstream 1.6 branch to fix security
  issue (BZ#488501)
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.6.2-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Jan 23 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 1.6.2-2
- Rebuild for MySQL 5.1.X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #489673 - No graphs in zabbix
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489673
  [ 2 ] Bug #493234 - Install Wizard doesn't start
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493234
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 zerofree-1.0.1-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5113)
 Utility to force unused ext2 inodes and blocks to zero
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500922 - Review Request: zerofree - Utility to force unused ext2 inodes and blocks to zero
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500922
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 19 02:13:38 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 02:13:38 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090519021338.CEF4510F8B2@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    apcupsd-3.14.6-1.fc11
    atari++-1.56-1.fc11
    cnetworkmanager-0.8.4-2.fc11
    dbus-cxx-0.1.1-1.fc11
    eclipse-linuxprofilingframework-0.2.0-2.fc11
    firmware-addon-dell-2.1.2-4.3.fc11
    firmware-tools-2.1.5-1.1.fc11
    gstreamer-rtsp-0.10.3-1.fc11
    haproxy-1.3.18-1.fc11
    html-xml-utils-5.3-1.fc11
    ibus-m17n-1.1.0.20090211-5.fc11
    ikiwiki-3.12-1.fc11
    kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-2.fc11
    kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-3.fc11
    kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc11
    kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc11
    kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdepim-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc11
    kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc11
    mod_fcgid-2.2-11.fc11
    mysql-5.1.34-1.fc11
    net-snmp-5.4.2.1-12.fc11
    peppy-0.9.86-1.fc11
    perl-B-Hooks-OP-Check-0.17-1.fc11
    perl-Module-Util-1.07-1.fc11
    perl-Scope-Upper-0.08-1.fc11
    perl-Text-RecordParser-1.3.0-1.fc11
    ristretto-0.0.22-1.fc11
    rpmdepsize-1.0-3.fc11
    scala-2.7.4-1.fc11
    vim-perl-support-4.2-1.fc11
    wannier90-1.1-4.fc11
    wine-1.1.21-2.fc11
    xfce4-clipman-plugin-1.0.1-1.fc11
    xine-ui-0.99.5-10.fc11
    xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.1.0-6.fc11
    yum-arch-2.2.2-6.fc11
    zabbix-1.6.4-3.fc11
    zerofree-1.0.1-5.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 apcupsd-3.14.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5140)
 APC UPS Power Control Daemon for Linux
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> - 3.14.6-1
- update to 3.14.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 atari++-1.56-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5137)
 Unix based emulator of the Atari eight bit computers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to version 1.56
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Dan Hor?k <dan[at]danny.cz> 1.56-1
- update to version 1.56
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cnetworkmanager-0.8.4-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5093)
 Command-line client for NetworkManager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

command line client for NetworkManager in python.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500437 - Review Request: cnetworkmanager - Command-line client for NetworkManager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500437
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dbus-cxx-0.1.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5111)
 C++ bindings for the DBus library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is the initial release of the dbus-cxx library.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 eclipse-linuxprofilingframework-0.2.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5054)
 Eclipse Linux Tools Profiling Framework
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updated framework for Eclipse Linux profiling tools.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 15 2009 Elliott Baron <ebaron at redhat.com> 0.2.0-2
- Fixing tag.
* Wed May 13 2009 Elliott Baron <ebaron at redhat.com> 0.2.0-1
- Upstream 0.2.0 release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 firmware-addon-dell-2.1.2-4.3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5004)
 A firmware-tools plugin to handle BIOS/Firmware for Dell systems
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update required for new API provided by firmware-tools > 2.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 2.1.2-4.3
- rebase to latest upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #454204 - firmware-tools needs a bump
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454204
  [ 2 ] Bug #499260 - firmware-tools and firmware-addon-dell are out of date
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499260
  [ 3 ] Bug #499939 - yum segfault during plugin load - can't update
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499939
  [ 4 ] Bug #487690 - version in rawhide too old
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487690
  [ 5 ] Bug #468637 - firmware-tools and firmware-addon-dell too old to flash newer bioses
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468637
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 firmware-tools-2.1.5-1.1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4998)
 Scripts and tools to manage firmware and BIOS updates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Significant rewrite  by upstream.  Necessary for updating Dell  BIOS whose
payloads now require firmware-tools > 2.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 2.1.5-1.1
- rebase to upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #454204 - firmware-tools needs a bump
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454204
  [ 2 ] Bug #499260 - firmware-tools and firmware-addon-dell are out of date
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499260
  [ 3 ] Bug #499939 - yum segfault during plugin load - can't update
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499939
  [ 4 ] Bug #487690 - version in rawhide too old
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487690
  [ 5 ] Bug #468637 - firmware-tools and firmware-addon-dell too old to flash newer bioses
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468637
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-rtsp-0.10.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5059)
 GStreamer RTSP server library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.10.3-1
- Update to 0.10.3 (#501159)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501159 - Update to 0.10.2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501159
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 haproxy-1.3.18-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5119)
 HA-Proxy is a TCP/HTTP reverse proxy for high availability environments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner <jeremy at hinegardner dot org> 1.3.18-1
-  update to 1.3.18
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 html-xml-utils-5.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5063)
 A number of simple utilities for manipulating HTML and XML files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to 5.3: many bugfixes, most binaries have now a "hx" prefix - Removed
Conflicts: surfraw, normalize - Fixed license tag: W3C
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 16 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 5.3-1
- Update to 5.3: many bugfixes, most binaries have now a "hx" prefix
- Removed Conflicts: surfraw, normalize
- Fixed license tag: W3C
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-m17n-1.1.0.20090211-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5073)
 The M17N engine for IBus platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Resovles: rh#500802 :[indic] icon property on ibus panel display icon only
once after its used.  - updated ibus-m17n-iok.patch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 16 2009 Parag <pnemade at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090211-5
- Resovles: rh#500802 :[indic] icon property on ibus panel display icon only once after its used. 
- updated ibus-m17n-iok.patch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500802 - [indic] icon property on ibus panel display icon only once after its used.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500802
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ikiwiki-3.12-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4636)
 A wiki compiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 3.12. See http://ikiwiki.info/news/ for a list of changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 15 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 3.12-1
- Update to 3.12.
* Tue May  5 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 3.11-1
- Update to 3.11.
* Sat Apr 25 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 3.10-1
- Update to 3.10.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-3
- #496447 -  fix disabling konsole's flow control
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.2.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- toolbar text under icons cut off (kde#186340)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.2.3-3
- check for network availability through Solid/NM in the weather dataengine
* Wed May  6 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- Requires: oxygen-icon-theme >= 4.2.2
- fix oxygen-cursor-themes noarch'ness
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.2.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- include more(all) csharp/qyoto .pc files snarfed from trunk/,
  to match how everyone (except upstream) is shipping (#490555)
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-3
- kde4.(sh|csh): drop QT_PLUGINS_PATH munging, kde4-config call (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-2
- better fix for strcasestr detection
* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> - 4.2.2-13
- upstream patch to fix GCC4.4 crashes in kjs
  (kdebug:189809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May  3 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 PIM (Personal Information Manager) applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.2-4
- drop extraneous BR's, including libmal-devel (not currently used)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4808)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates KDE to 4.2.3, the latest bugfix release of KDE.    The most user-
visible improvements are:  * Online IMAP filtering in KMail has been fixed.  *
KMail's system tray icon now reacts to changes to folder properties and updates
the number of emails shown there automatically.  * Bugfixes, performance
improvements and optimization in KHTML - Painting and interoperability with web
standards has been further improved.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.3.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May  4 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.2.3-1
- 4.2.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mod_fcgid-2.2-11.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5106)
 Apache2 module for high-performance server-side scripting
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update moves the module's "run" directory from /var/run to /var/run/httpd,
to resync with httpd which has also moved its "run" directory since Fedora 10.
Using the wrong directory caused httpd to fail to start after mod_fcgid had been
installed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 2.2-11
- Follow link /etc/httpd/run and make our "run" directory a subdir of wherever
  that leads (#501123)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501123 - mod_fcgid installation stops httpd starting due to missing directory
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501123
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mysql-5.1.34-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5056)
 MySQL client programs and shared libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to MySQL 5.1.34, for various fixes described at
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/news-5-1-34.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 15 2009 Tom Lane <tgl at redhat.com> 5.1.34-1
- Update to MySQL 5.1.34, for various fixes described at
  http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/news-5-1-34.html
- Increase startup timeout per bug #472222
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Tom Lane <tgl at redhat.com> 5.1.33-2
- Increase stack size of ndbd threads for safety's sake.
Related: #494631
* Tue Apr  7 2009 Tom Lane <tgl at redhat.com> 5.1.33-1
- Update to MySQL 5.1.33.
- Disable use of pthread_setschedparam; doesn't work the way code expects.
Related: #477624
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 net-snmp-5.4.2.1-12.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5086)
 A collection of SNMP protocol tools and libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix divisionby zero in processing of CPU statistics.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Jan Safranek <jsafranek at redhat.com> 5.4.2.1-12
- fix divison-by-zero in cpu statistics (#501210)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501210 - net-snmp SIGFPE 0x00002aaaab37744a in var_hrproc (vp=0x7fffffffbf50
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501210
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 peppy-0.9.86-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5072)
 Editor written in python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

new upstream release add R: wxPython peppy - Editor written in python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497572 - Review Request: peppy - Editor written in python
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497572
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-B-Hooks-OP-Check-0.17-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5074)
 Wrap OP check callbacks
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.17-1
- auto-update to 0.17 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Module-Util-1.07-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5120)
 Module name tools and transformations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.07-1
- auto-update to 1.07 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Scope-Upper-0.08-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5087)
 Act on upper scopes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.08-1
- auto-update to 0.08 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- filter private Perl so provides
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-RecordParser-1.3.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5152)
 Read record-oriented files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.3.0-1
- auto-update to 1.3.0 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(List::Util) (version 0)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ristretto-0.0.22-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5065)
 Image-viewer for the Xfce desktop environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a bugfix release from upstream. The cache is finally implemented
correctly, the size of images is calculated correctly and the memory leaks are
plugged.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 15 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.0.22-1
- Update to 0.0.22
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rpmdepsize-1.0-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5101)
 A tool for visualizing RPM dependencies
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release of package in Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498748 - Review Request: rpmdepsize - A tool for visualizing RPM dependencies
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498748
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 scala-2.7.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5069)
 A hybrid functional/object-oriented language for the JVM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Scala 2.7.4 is the latest upstream release. This was a maintenance bug-fixing
release, aimed at improving stability; no language changes were introduced. For
a complete list of bugs fixed see http://www.scala-lang.org/node/1593
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-1
- update to 2.7.4 final
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #476938 - jline not in scala's classpath
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476938
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 vim-perl-support-4.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5148)
 Perl-IDE for VIM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update to the latest version of perl-support includes:  - Regex Analyser
extended: check several regular expressions against several targets.  - Regex
Analyser extended: regular expressions with  match-time code evaluation
possible.  - Regex Analyser extended: g-modifier allowed; all matches will be
shown.  - Regex Analyser extended: qr/.../ can be picked up.  - Comments menu:
adjustment of end-of-line comments improved.  - Statements menu: else block (key
mapping \se).  - Regex menu: new special variables (Perl 5.10)  - Templates:
handling of <SPLIT> improved.  - Bugfix (Windows only): templates will be loaded
twice, generating a long list of error messages.  - Bugfix: Perl::Tags
integration not working.  - Minor improvements and bugfixes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Iain Arnell <iarnell at gmail.com> 4.2-1
- update to 4.2
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Iain Arnell <iarnell at gmail.com> 4.1-3
- require Devel::FastProf and Perl::Tags
- use global macro, not define
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wannier90-1.1-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5080)
 Maximally-localised Wannier functions
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496880 - Review Request: wannier90 - Maximally-localised Wannier functions
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496880
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wine-1.1.21-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5125)
 A Windows 16/32/64 bit emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Andreas Bierfert <andreas.bierfert[AT]lowlatency.de>
- 1.1.21-2
- fix uninstaller (#500479)
* Tue May 12 2009 Andreas Bierfert <andreas.bierfert[AT]lowlatency.de>
- 1.1.21-1
- version upgrade
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Andreas Bierfert <andreas.bierfert[AT]lowlatency.de>
- 1.1.20-1
- version upgrade
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xfce4-clipman-plugin-1.0.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4380)
 Clipboard manager plugin for the Xfce panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This version is a major rewrite of the plugin using GObjects and Xfconf. The
external plugin is provided as a bundle, it can be added to the Xfce Panel and
executed as a standalone application living inside the notification area.  New
features include 'Actions' to execute commands on specific text selections by
matching them against regexes, the command line tool xfce4-popup-clipman that
can be used in the keyboard settings as a shortcut and documentation in HTML
format.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 14 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 1.0.1-1
- Update to 1.0.1
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 1.0.0-1
- Update to 1.0.0
- Require xfce4-doc
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xine-ui-0.99.5-10.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5130)
 A skinned xlib-based gui for xine-lib
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release in Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501006 - Review Request: xine-ui - A skinned xlib-based gui for xine-lib
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501006
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.1.0-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5081)
 Xorg X11 Synaptics touchpad input driver
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

synclient now allows AccelFactor values up to 1.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.1.0-6
- synaptics-1.1.0-synclient-accel-max.patch: update synclient's maximum
  value for AccelFactor to 1.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #462574 - bcm5974 unusable
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462574
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yum-arch-2.2.2-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5129)
 Extract headers from rpm in a old yum repository
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix a issue with python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 16 2009 Remi Collet <Fedora at FamilleCollet.com> - 2.2.2-6
- fix python 2.6 issue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 zabbix-1.6.4-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5082)
 Open-source monitoring solution for your IT infrastructure
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Tighten configuration file permissions. - Ensure zero exit status from
scriptlets. - Improve init script LSB compliance. - Restart running services on
package upgrades.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 17 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 1.6.4-3
- Tighten configuration file permissions.
- Ensure zero exit status from scriptlets.
- Improve init script LSB compliance.
- Restart running services on package upgrades.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 zerofree-1.0.1-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5108)
 Utility to force unused ext2 inodes and blocks to zero
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500922 - Review Request: zerofree - Utility to force unused ext2 inodes and blocks to zero
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500922
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Tue May 19 02:56:35 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:56:35 +1000
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <4A117DC7.60407@laposte.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A100FA7.9090006@speakeasy.net>
	<20090518145158.GA15738@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<4A117DC7.60407@laposte.net>
Message-ID: <1242701796.3337.1.camel@moose>

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 17:24 +0200, Axel wrote:
> Le 18/05/2009 16:51, Chuck Anderson a ?crit :
> > the screen goes black.  no, it's not the screensaver
> > >>  kicking in after a certain idle period.  i might have just typed
> > >>  something and, two seconds later, blackness.  move the mouse, i get my
> > >>  display back.  no harm, just weird.
> > >>
> > >>     i'm currently running the latest radeon driver, with "XAA" in
> > >>  xorg.conf.  it's not fatal, obviously, just unusual -- i've never had
> > >>  that behaviour in previous versions of fedora.
> >    
> 
> This happens 2 or 3 times a day, with a nvidia gpu, using proprietary 
> driver and a Hyundai W220D (plugged on the DVI connector) monitor.

I'm seeing the same thing on a Dell Inspiron 9300 running the nvidia
driver.  It might happen once a day.

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV41.8 [GeForce Go
6800] (rev a2)

Screen goes blank (like the screensaver is turning on, but I'm typing at
the time) and then comes back up again.

Weird!


R.




From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Tue May 19 03:18:36 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:18:36 +1000
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <4A113B51.5020108@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A10EFE6.2070904@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1242625423.18662.56.camel@moose>
	<4A113B51.5020108@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <1242703116.3337.21.camel@moose>

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 18:41 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 13:19 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> 
> 
> > John,
> > 
> > A little tongue in cheek on who keithp is?
> > 
> > See maybe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Packard ;-]
> 
> No. I'd never heard of him. He dabbles in different stuff, there's no 
> reason I would.
> 
> That aside, the point stands. If Keith is speaking for Intel, and in 
> talking about the subject he is he might well be, then he should be 
> doing so from a site clearly owned by Intel. Doing so establishes 
> credibility.
> 
> Even knowing he works for Intel (according to his site), one can't tell 
> whether his plans are Intel's plans.
> 
> I'm not picking on Keith in particular, there's any number of RH and 
> Fedora project people who do the same.
> 
> If you're part of a well-known team, and you want your own website that 
> reflects the work you do as part of that team, make sure your choice of 
> domain name (maybe keithp.developer.intel.com or 
> keithp.people.freedesktop.org). Intel might prefer to use another domain 
> name entirely - intelgraphics.org - that's fine too. It carries the 
> company logo, the regular Intel site links to it.
> 
> The site looks legitimate, but it could be a well-crafted hoax.

Actually, while I get what you say, it would probably be more
appropriate for keithp to be using keith.p.x11.org or something like
this.  Keith has been a part of developing X for so long that while his
involvement with Intel (as his employer) is good for me (with X related
issues with my intel chipset), Keith has been involved a lot longer with
the development of X (since March 1988) than his involvement with intel
(a couple of years).  Ginen that X11 started development in May 1986 and
was released in Sep 1987, it reasonable to assume that Keiths ongoing
involvement with X is considerable.

I've never met Keith (and neither am I likely to) but as someone who has
been using Linux since 1996, his name is one I know well, and while less
vocal than some others, his work has contributed vastly to the desktop
you use today.  So it might even be fair to suggest that KeithP has the
right to stand up on his own and represent himself in these matters.
It's worth having a read of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
to appreciate why KeithP might not need to represent some other entity.

Also, it doesn't take too much searching to figure out that his website
is not a hoax, including that his Listing in Wikipedia lists his website
as where it appears to be.

Oh, and it's clarkson.id.au ;-]


R.



From reidr at pobox.com  Tue May 19 04:39:03 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 22:39:03 -0600
Subject: Preupgrade problem
Message-ID: <13142890905182139l5ca7178nbd01602874928d3e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.  I'm currently running F10 on x86_64 and thought I'd try an
upgrade to F11/rawhide.  I think I used preupgrade to go from F9 to
F10, and it worked fine.  This time, it downloaded images and tons of
packages, then died with this output:

...
Generating metadata for preupgrade repo
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 766, in <module>
    widgets = PreUpgradeGtk()
  File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 374, in __init__
    self._do_main()
  File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 257, in _do_main
    self.main_preupgrade()
  File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 545, in main_preupgrade
    callback=MDGenCallback(pbar=self.progress))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py", line
651, in generate_repo
    misc.generate_repodata(dir,comps,callback)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/preupgrade/misc.py", line
131, in generate_repodata
    generate_repodata(dir, comps, callback)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/preupgrade/misc.py", line
147, in generate_repodata_f9
    mdgen.doPkgMetadata()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/createrepo/__init__.py", line
332, in doPkgMetadata
    self.writeMetadataDocs(packages)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/createrepo/__init__.py", line
472, in writeMetadataDocs
    self.primaryfile.write(po.xml_dump_primary_metadata())
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 1013,
in xml_dump_primary_metadata
    msg += misc.to_unicode(self._dump_base_items())
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 846,
in _dump_base_items
    (csum_type, csum, csumid) = self.checksums[0]
IndexError: list index out of range

There were also many dependency line like this before the above output:

1:qt-x11-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package
1:qt-x11-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386 (installed)

I have picasa 3.x installed, and probably some other external
packages; could they be causing the crash?  If preupgrade doesn't
work, I may either try to upgrade via yum after release or burn a
disk.  TIA!

-- 
Reid



From fedora at ml.shredzone.de  Tue May 19 08:03:21 2009
From: fedora at ml.shredzone.de (=?UTF-8?B?UmljaGFyZCBLw7ZyYmVy?=)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:03:21 +0200
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1242701796.3337.1.camel@moose>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>	<4A100FA7.9090006@speakeasy.net>	<20090518145158.GA15738@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>	<4A117DC7.60407@laposte.net>
	<1242701796.3337.1.camel@moose>
Message-ID: <4A1267C9.2000309@ml.shredzone.de>

Rodd Clarkson wrote:

> Screen goes blank (like the screensaver is turning on, but I'm typing at
> the time) and then comes back up again.

Same here on a notebook with Intel graphics.

I also noticed that up to F10, a frame rate of 50 Hz was offered and set 
for the notebook display. On F11, there is no 50 Hz setting, and the 
display is set to 65 Hz (if I remember correctly, I don't have the 
notebook here right now).

Maybe the frame rate slightly exceeds the upper limit of the display's 
specifications, and the display blanks for a short moment because of that?

-- 
Richard



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Tue May 19 09:19:50 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 05:19:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <4A1267C9.2000309@ml.shredzone.de>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A100FA7.9090006@speakeasy.net>
	<20090518145158.GA15738@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<4A117DC7.60407@laposte.net> <1242701796.3337.1.camel@moose>
	<4A1267C9.2000309@ml.shredzone.de>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905190518550.12104@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 19 May 2009, Richard K?rber wrote:

> Rodd Clarkson wrote:
>
> > Screen goes blank (like the screensaver is turning on, but I'm
> > typing at the time) and then comes back up again.
>
> Same here on a notebook with Intel graphics.

  i'm feeling so much better now that i know it's not just me.
misery shared and all that.  :-)

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================

From harald at redhat.com  Tue May 19 10:23:27 2009
From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:23:27 +0200
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>

On 05/17/2009 02:20 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>    on my (currently up to date) f11 beta system, every so often while
> i'm in gnome, the screen goes black.  no, it's not the screensaver
> kicking in after a certain idle period.  i might have just typed
> something and, two seconds later, blackness.  move the mouse, i get my
> display back.  no harm, just weird.
>
>   i'm currently running the latest radeon driver, with "XAA" in
> xorg.conf.  it's not fatal, obviously, just unusual -- i've never had
> that behaviour in previous versions of fedora.
>
> rday
> --
>
> ========================================================================
> Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
>
>          Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.
>
> Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
> Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
> Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
> ========================================================================
>

This is an already reported bug of gnome-power-manager, IIRC



From harald at redhat.com  Tue May 19 10:41:43 2009
From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:41:43 +0200
Subject: USB Device Permissions In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <874ovm9dpm.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>
References: <4A0DE91E.9060903@speakeasy.net> <874ovm9dpm.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>
Message-ID: <4A128CE7.9040401@redhat.com>

On 05/16/2009 12:57 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> Robert L Cochran<cochranb at speakeasy.net>  writes:
>> Having to do this chmod step annoys me. Is there some way to automate the detection and setting of permissions on the device such that everything is done correctly a moment or so after I connect the Blackberry over USB?
>
> You can put rules down in /etc/udev/ruled.d/ and have them fire when the
> appropriate device is plugged in.    Here is one that I have for my gps:
>
> /etc/udev/rules.d/55-wsrcc-hotplug.rules:
>
> # SIRF-III usb gps (Globalstar bu-XXX)
> #
> # added by wsr 2006-05-02
> # /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.1/usb3/3-2
> # manufacturer="Prolific Technology Inc."
> # idProduct=2303
> # idVendor=067b
> # version=" 1.10"
> # product=USB-Serial Controller
> # add this too??
> # SYSFS{idVendor}=="067b"
> KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", SYSFS{idProduct}=="2303", SYMLINK+="gps" GROUP="staff" MODE="
> 0666"
>
> It takes a bit of playing with "lsusb -v" to figure out what unique
> product or vendor name you can latch onto.  Once you figure that out you
> can chmod the device or even make a symlink to have a generic name you
> can access it with.
>
> -wolfgang


This should be done with ConsoleKit and HAL... MODE="0666" will make it writable 
by _every_ user on your computer, while it should only be writable by the actual 
console user, plugging it in.

Have a look at /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/* and watch out for "<merge 
key="access_control....."



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 19 13:14:29 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:14:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090519 changes
Message-ID: <20090519131429.CC8A11B8003@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Tue May 19 06:15:03 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

anaconda-11.5.0.53-1.fc11
-------------------------
* Mon May 18 2009 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.5.0.53-1
- LVMVolumeGroupDevice stores pesize in MB, kickstart expects it in KB.
  (dlehman)
- Don't schedule a format resize if reformat scheduled. (#500991) (dlehman)
- Deactivate md arrays regardless of state if the device is present.
  (#496441) (dlehman)
- Lame hack to make sure --size= is never 0 (#500905). (clumens)
- Don't filter out partitions that haven't been allocated (#500932).
  (clumens)
- Write out PE size as an integer, since that's what anaconda wants
  (#501049). (clumens)
- Set clearPartType to None on preupgrade too (#499321). (clumens)
- Fix indentation of line to remove cancelled actions from the list.
  (#500932) (dlehman)
- Consider active-idle state of md device as accepatable status of device
  (#497407) (rvykydal)
- Fix detection of cciss disks (#499408) (dchapman)
- Get existing fs size for xfs. (dcantrell)
- Get existing fs size for ntfs. (dcantrell)
- Get existing fs size for jfs. (dcantrell)
- Get existing fs size for ext2, ext3, and ext4. (dcantrell)
- Compute existing filesystem size using fs info utility. (dcantrell)
- Do not allow users to migrate ext4 to ext4. (dcantrell)
- Correct handling of formats on encrypted preexisting LVs. (#499828)
  (dlehman)
- Ignore unrecognized device-mapper devices we find. (#499967) (dlehman)
- loader: Mount /tmp as tmpfs not ramfs so we can swap it out (ajax)
- format.mountpoint -> lvd.mountpoint (#500913). (clumens)
- Treat the loop labels as devices without a label.(#493219) (jgranado)
- Add the partition table partition after initializing (#498602). (clumens)


arj-3.10.22-8.fc11
------------------
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 3.10.22-8
- Added patch to disable the custom printf to avoid conflicting
  strnlen definition with glibc headers (thanks to Lubomir Rintel)


cups-1.4-0.b2.18.fc11
---------------------
* Fri May 15 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1:1.4-0.b2.18
- More complete fix for STR #3197 (bug #500859).


e2fsprogs-1.41.4-9.fc11
-----------------------
* Thu May 14 2009 Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com> 1.41.4-9
- Fix corrupted filesystems with mis-set i_file_acl_hi (#500935)


gvfs-1.2.3-2.fc11
-----------------
* Mon May 18 2009 Tomas Bzatek <tbzatek at redhat.com> - 1.2.3-1
- Update to 1.2.3
- Prevent deadlocks in dnssd resolver (#497631)

* Mon May 18 2009 Tomas Bzatek <tbzatek at redhat.com> - 1.2.3-2
- CDDA: allow query well-formed filenames only (#499266)

* Wed May 13 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1.2.2-8
- Try to fix issues with webdav authentication


inkscape-0.47-0.8.20090508svn.fc11
----------------------------------
* Mon May 18 2009 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> - 0.47-0.8.20090508svn
- Fix ODG export

* Fri May 08 2009 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> - 0.47-0.7.20090508svn
- Update to a post-alpha snapshot
- Upstream applied our GCC 4.4 patch


libnet-1.1.3-1.fc11
-------------------
* Sat May 16 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 1.1.3-1
- Upgrade to 1.1.3

* Sun Apr 19 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 1.1.2.1-14
- Enabled a shared library and made lots of spec file cleanups


libsmbios-2.2.16-2.1.fc11
-------------------------

nsd-3.2.2-2.fc11
----------------
* Mon May 18 2009 Paul Wouters <paul at xelerance.com> - 3.2.2-1
- Upgraded to 3.2.2 security release
  http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/publications/NSD_vulnerability_announcement.html
- Removed obsoleted options --enable-plugins --enable-mmap

* Mon May 18 2009 Paul Wouters <paul at xelerance.com> - 3.2.2-2
- Bump version


phpMyAdmin-3.1.5-1.fc11
-----------------------
* Fri May 15 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 3.1.5-1
- Upstream released 3.1.5


plymouth-0.7.0-0.2009.05.15.1.fc11
----------------------------------
* Fri May 15 2009 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.7.0-0.2009.05.15.1
- Fix spinfinity theme to point to the right image directory
  (bug 500994)


pykickstart-1.54-1.fc11
-----------------------
* Mon May 18 2009 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> - 1.54-1
- Make sure the F11 handler gets used for "partition" and "part" (#501020).


spin-kickstarts-0.11.3-1.fc11
-----------------------------
* Sat May 16 2009 Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip a fedoraunity.org> 0.11.3-1
- New release
- Removed developer spin from the mix


tigervnc-0.0.90-0.9.fc11
------------------------
* Mon May 18 2009 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 0.0.90-9
- fix vncpasswd crash on long passwords (#499401)
- start session dbus daemon correctly (#497592)

* Mon May 11 2009 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 0.0.90-0.8.1
- remove merged tigervnc-manminor.patch

* Tue May 05 2009 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 0.0.90-0.8
- update to 0.0.90


unicap-0.9.5-1.fc11
-------------------
* Sun May 03 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.9.5-1
- Upgrade to 0.9.5


xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-36.20090514git9656762.fc11
------------------------------------------------------
* Thu May 14 2009 Ben Skeggs <bskeggs at redhat.com> 0.0.12-36.20090514git9656762
- nv50: fix hang with multiple displays when encoders swap crtcs

* Fri May 08 2009 Ben Skeggs <bskeggs at redhat.com> 0.0.12-35.20090507git1072103
- nv50: ensure crtcs get reprogrammed as needed across resize


xorg-x11-server-1.6.1.901-1.fc11
--------------------------------
* Mon May 18 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.6.1.901-1
- Rebase to 1.6.2 pre-release
- xserver-1.6.1-hush-warning.patch: Silence the prerelease warning spew.
- xserver-1.6.0-xinerama-crashes.patch: merged
- xserver-1.6.1-activate-device.patch: merged
- xserver-1.6.1-proc-cmdline.patch: Print /proc/cmdline in the log
- xserver-1.6.0-primary.patch: Don't include prehistoric PCI devices in the
  candidate list for primary video. (#500057)
- Drop the %pre scriptlet from the Xorg subpackage, it's been there since
  FC5, if you haven't upgraded by now you're quite doomed.

* Mon May 11 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.6.1-14
- xserver-1.6.1-synaptics.patch: Don't synthesize a mouse section if
  unreferenced synaptics devices are found in the xorg.conf (#499792)

* Fri May 08 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.6.1-13
- xserver-1.6.1-vt-switch.patch: Synthesize key releases on vt switch away,
  not just on return.  Fixes CPU usage bug while switched away. (#484393)

* Thu May 07 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.6.1-12
- xserver-1.6.1-nouveau.patch: AIGLX setup failure is not an error for
  nouveau.


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 17









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From jleddy at redhat.com  Tue May 19 14:01:13 2009
From: jleddy at redhat.com (James M. Leddy)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:01:13 -0400
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
Message-ID: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>

I know that upgrading via yum is unsupported an not to ever do it and 
to use preupgrade, but I'm still curious as to why I get messages like 
this:

   file /etc/gpm-twiddler.conf from install of 
gpm-1.20.6-3.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package 
gpm-1.20.5-2.fc10.i386

Shouldn't it be obvious that you're going to replace files when 
upgrading a package?

-- 
James M. Leddy

Red Hat Inc.



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 19 14:02:23 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:02:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191002010.32341@localhost.localdomain>



On Tue, 19 May 2009, James M. Leddy wrote:

> I know that upgrading via yum is unsupported an not to ever do it and to use 
> preupgrade, but I'm still curious as to why I get messages like this:
>
>  file /etc/gpm-twiddler.conf from install of gpm-1.20.6-3.fc11.x86_64 
> conflicts with file from package gpm-1.20.5-2.fc10.i386
>
> Shouldn't it be obvious that you're going to replace files when upgrading a 
> package?

Those are different archs.

-sv



From limb at jcomserv.net  Tue May 19 14:05:38 2009
From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:05:38 -0500
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A12BCB2.2090702@jcomserv.net>

James M. Leddy wrote:
> I know that upgrading via yum is unsupported an not to ever do it and 
> to use preupgrade, but I'm still curious as to why I get messages like 
> this:
>
>   file /etc/gpm-twiddler.conf from install of gpm-1.20.6-3.fc11.x86_64 
> conflicts with file from package gpm-1.20.5-2.fc10.i386
>
> Shouldn't it be obvious that you're going to replace files when 
> upgrading a package?
>
Unsupportedness aside, it usually does work.  The kicker here appears to 
be that it looks like you're trying to upgrade from F-10-i386 to 
F-11-x86_64.    This will most certainly *not* work.

-- 
in your fear, speak only peace
in your fear, seek only love

-d. bowie



From jos at xos.nl  Tue May 19 14:05:30 2009
From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:05:30 +0200
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090519140530.GA19707@jasmine.xos.nl>

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:01:13AM -0400, James M. Leddy wrote:

>   file /etc/gpm-twiddler.conf from install of 
> gpm-1.20.6-3.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package 
                    ^^^^^^
> gpm-1.20.5-2.fc10.i386
                    ^^^^

> Shouldn't it be obvious that you're going to replace files when 
> upgrading a package?

The i386 package will not be removed...

-- 
--    Jos Vos <jos at xos.nl>
--    X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV   |   Phone: +31 20 6938364
--    Amsterdam, The Netherlands        |     Fax: +31 20 6948204



From jleddy at redhat.com  Tue May 19 14:08:23 2009
From: jleddy at redhat.com (James M. Leddy)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:08:23 -0400
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191002010.32341@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191002010.32341@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A12BD57.4010401@redhat.com>

Seth Vidal wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 19 May 2009, James M. Leddy wrote:
> 
>> I know that upgrading via yum is unsupported an not to ever do it and 
>> to use preupgrade, but I'm still curious as to why I get messages like 
>> this:
>>
>>  file /etc/gpm-twiddler.conf from install of gpm-1.20.6-3.fc11.x86_64 
>> conflicts with file from package gpm-1.20.5-2.fc10.i386
>>
>> Shouldn't it be obvious that you're going to replace files when 
>> upgrading a package?
> 
> Those are different archs.
> 
> -sv
> 

Good point.  Shortly after posting I realized I upgraded all of these 
packages before using yum, but only the x86_64 versions.  Looks like 
I'm going to have to do a few more manual installs.

-- 
James M. Leddy

Technical Account Manager
Red Hat Inc.



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 19 14:13:00 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:13:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <4A12BD57.4010401@redhat.com>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191002010.32341@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A12BD57.4010401@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191011590.32341@localhost.localdomain>



On Tue, 19 May 2009, James M. Leddy wrote:

> Seth Vidal wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 19 May 2009, James M. Leddy wrote:
>> 
>>> I know that upgrading via yum is unsupported an not to ever do it and to 
>>> use preupgrade, but I'm still curious as to why I get messages like this:
>>>
>>>  file /etc/gpm-twiddler.conf from install of gpm-1.20.6-3.fc11.x86_64 
>>> conflicts with file from package gpm-1.20.5-2.fc10.i386
>>> 
>>> Shouldn't it be obvious that you're going to replace files when upgrading 
>>> a package?
>> 
>> Those are different archs.
>> 
>> -sv
>> 
>
> Good point.  Shortly after posting I realized I upgraded all of these 
> packages before using yum, but only the x86_64 versions.  Looks like I'm 
> going to have to do a few more manual installs.

Any reason you did others manually? Handling them in yum means the 
multilib trickery will be handled.

I know yum is not officially supported for upgrading from release to 
release but depending on the system it works on a largish number of cases.

-sv



From cmadams at hiwaay.net  Tue May 19 14:18:55 2009
From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:18:55 -0500
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090519141854.GB734423@hiwaay.net>

Once upon a time, James M. Leddy <jleddy at redhat.com> said:
> I know that upgrading via yum is unsupported an not to ever do it and 
> to use preupgrade, but I'm still curious as to why I get messages like 
> this:
> 
>   file /etc/gpm-twiddler.conf from install of 
> gpm-1.20.6-3.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package 
> gpm-1.20.5-2.fc10.i386

The problem is that in F10, gpm was multilib on x86_64 (there is an i386
and an x86_64 package).  In F11, the multilib parts of gpm were moved to
a subpackage, gpm-libs, and only that subpackage is multilib (the only
gpm base package in F11 is x86_64).

I'm not sure how anaconda handles that (does the gpm.i386 just get
left behind?).

Maybe the gpm-libs package should have had an obsoletes on the last
version that didn't have the separate gpm-libs package (0:1.20.5-2)?  I
think that would have covered this case (or would that have just caused
gpm to be removed unless something else requires the base gpm package?).

-- 
Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 19 14:25:05 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:25:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <20090519141854.GB734423@hiwaay.net>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com> <20090519141854.GB734423@hiwaay.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191024460.32341@localhost.localdomain>



On Tue, 19 May 2009, Chris Adams wrote:

> Once upon a time, James M. Leddy <jleddy at redhat.com> said:
>> I know that upgrading via yum is unsupported an not to ever do it and
>> to use preupgrade, but I'm still curious as to why I get messages like
>> this:
>>
>>   file /etc/gpm-twiddler.conf from install of
>> gpm-1.20.6-3.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
>> gpm-1.20.5-2.fc10.i386
>
> The problem is that in F10, gpm was multilib on x86_64 (there is an i386
> and an x86_64 package).  In F11, the multilib parts of gpm were moved to
> a subpackage, gpm-libs, and only that subpackage is multilib (the only
> gpm base package in F11 is x86_64).
>
> I'm not sure how anaconda handles that (does the gpm.i386 just get
> left behind?).
>
> Maybe the gpm-libs package should have had an obsoletes on the last
> version that didn't have the separate gpm-libs package (0:1.20.5-2)?  I
> think that would have covered this case (or would that have just caused
> gpm to be removed unless something else requires the base gpm package?).

That sounds like it would  have been a good idea.
file a bug?

-sv



From jleddy at redhat.com  Tue May 19 14:28:22 2009
From: jleddy at redhat.com (James M. Leddy)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:28:22 -0400
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191011590.32341@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191002010.32341@localhost.localdomain>	<4A12BD57.4010401@redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191011590.32341@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A12C206.8040309@redhat.com>

Seth Vidal wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 19 May 2009, James M. Leddy wrote:
> 
>> Seth Vidal wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 19 May 2009, James M. Leddy wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know that upgrading via yum is unsupported an not to ever do it 
>>>> and to use preupgrade, but I'm still curious as to why I get 
>>>> messages like this:
>>>>
>>>>  file /etc/gpm-twiddler.conf from install of 
>>>> gpm-1.20.6-3.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package 
>>>> gpm-1.20.5-2.fc10.i386
>>>>
>>>> Shouldn't it be obvious that you're going to replace files when 
>>>> upgrading a package?
>>>
>>> Those are different archs.
>>>
>>> -sv
>>>
>>
>> Good point.  Shortly after posting I realized I upgraded all of these 
>> packages before using yum, but only the x86_64 versions.  Looks like 
>> I'm going to have to do a few more manual installs.
> 
> Any reason you did others manually? Handling them in yum means the 
> multilib trickery will be handled.
> 
> I know yum is not officially supported for upgrading from release to 
> release but depending on the system it works on a largish number of cases.
> 
> -sv

I wanted to make sure that my system survived the python-2.5 -> 2.6
switch, so I updated rpm, python, yum and a lot of deps manually.
I'll keep that info in mind in the future though.


-- 
James M. Leddy

Red Hat Inc.



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 19 14:30:15 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:30:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <4A12C206.8040309@redhat.com>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191002010.32341@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A12BD57.4010401@redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191011590.32341@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A12C206.8040309@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191029140.32341@localhost.localdomain>



On Tue, 19 May 2009, James M. Leddy wrote:

> Seth Vidal wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 19 May 2009, James M. Leddy wrote:
>> 
>>> Seth Vidal wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 19 May 2009, James M. Leddy wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I know that upgrading via yum is unsupported an not to ever do it and to 
>>>>> use preupgrade, but I'm still curious as to why I get messages like 
>>>>> this:
>>>>>
>>>>>  file /etc/gpm-twiddler.conf from install of gpm-1.20.6-3.fc11.x86_64 
>>>>> conflicts with file from package gpm-1.20.5-2.fc10.i386
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shouldn't it be obvious that you're going to replace files when 
>>>>> upgrading a package?
>>>> 
>>>> Those are different archs.
>>>> 
>>>> -sv
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good point.  Shortly after posting I realized I upgraded all of these 
>>> packages before using yum, but only the x86_64 versions.  Looks like I'm 
>>> going to have to do a few more manual installs.
>> 
>> Any reason you did others manually? Handling them in yum means the multilib 
>> trickery will be handled.
>> 
>> I know yum is not officially supported for upgrading from release to 
>> release but depending on the system it works on a largish number of cases.
>> 
>> -sv
>
> I wanted to make sure that my system survived the python-2.5 -> 2.6
> switch, so I updated rpm, python, yum and a lot of deps manually.
> I'll keep that info in mind in the future though.

Once yum is in memory the version of python doesn't matter.

When in doubt do:

yum update yum\* rpm\*

to the next version and that'll put you in a reasonable place.

-sv



From clumens at redhat.com  Tue May 19 15:29:18 2009
From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:29:18 -0400
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <20090519141854.GB734423@hiwaay.net>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com> <20090519141854.GB734423@hiwaay.net>
Message-ID: <20090519152918.GN5296@localhost.localdomain>

> >   file /etc/gpm-twiddler.conf from install of 
> > gpm-1.20.6-3.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package 
> > gpm-1.20.5-2.fc10.i386
> 
> The problem is that in F10, gpm was multilib on x86_64 (there is an i386
> and an x86_64 package).  In F11, the multilib parts of gpm were moved to
> a subpackage, gpm-libs, and only that subpackage is multilib (the only
> gpm base package in F11 is x86_64).
> 
> I'm not sure how anaconda handles that (does the gpm.i386 just get
> left behind?).

anaconda (and preupgrade, for that matter) get around it by having a
whiteout list that tells us how to deal with these problems.  The
whiteout is available via a yum plugin from the anaconda-yum-plugins
package.

- Chris



From stickster at gmail.com  Tue May 19 16:51:27 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:51:27 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090519165127.GM2271@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:23:27PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> On 05/17/2009 02:20 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>    on my (currently up to date) f11 beta system, every so often while
>> i'm in gnome, the screen goes black.  no, it's not the screensaver
>> kicking in after a certain idle period.  i might have just typed
>> something and, two seconds later, blackness.  move the mouse, i get my
>> display back.  no harm, just weird.
>>
>>   i'm currently running the latest radeon driver, with "XAA" in
>> xorg.conf.  it's not fatal, obviously, just unusual -- i've never had
>> that behaviour in previous versions of fedora.
>
> This is an already reported bug of gnome-power-manager, IIRC

Could this be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/498041 rearing its head
again?  I am experiencing this, too, using the build that supposedly
fixed that bug.  I'm going to enable some verbosity to see if I can
catch it in the act before reopening.

-- 
Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
  http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Tue May 19 16:53:50 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:53:50 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Recap for 2009-05-19
Message-ID: <4A12E41E.9010400@gmail.com>

The meeting recap and full IRC transcript can be found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-19

Please make any corrections and clarifications to that page.

= Bug Triage Meeting :: 2009-05-19 =

Agenda: 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg00797.html

== Attendees ==
* adamw
* arxs
* poelcat
* thomasj
* tk009

== Meeting Recap ==

* 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11#Qualifying_Criteria 
- poelcat has the information from the bugzilla team to tweak the query. 
Needs to be tested.

* 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11#Fedora_9_EOL_Warning 
- poelcat filed all necessary tickets with the bugzilla team for the 
rebase, F9 EOL warning and F9 EOL changes.

poelcat will update 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora11 with the 
completed items.

* Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/ - 
Require the early test data collected by comphappy to continue. Adam 
will contact comphappy.

* Severity/priority - 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend - Adam will 
send an email to fedora-test-list soliciting feedback on the setting the 
severity field only on rawhide submitted bugs, beginning with the F12 
development cycle.

TK009



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Tue May 19 17:13:39 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:13:39 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <20090518213201.GA32134@mail.harddata.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A100FA7.9090006@speakeasy.net>
	<20090518145158.GA15738@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<20090518151416.GA2971@mail.harddata.com>
	<20090518192455.GD4646@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<20090518213201.GA32134@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <1242753219.14423.57.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 15:32 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> Logs of X are unfortunately not time stamped.

Interesting...any reason not to file a feature request to add timestamp
to X logs?

-B.



From lsatenstein at yahoo.com  Tue May 19 17:16:31 2009
From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:16:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Fedora11 64bit flash not working for me.
Message-ID: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I first tried installing the flash with 64bit rules (fedora wiki and adobe website), and got no flash working. None at all.

I did a cleanup and tried the 32bit installation for flash, and it too does not work?.

On this system, flash worked 100% for fedora10.? 

The differences that I see are a)? Mozilla Firefox 3.5b4? (not the standard firefox)
b) Some libraries as indicated in the adobe website, and elsewhere are not available, or have been renamed, so I don't know what to install. 

If you have a step by step set of rules for me to follow for the fedora11 64bit system, I would be delighted to try it.? 

Following the comment from the adobe website, I entered firefox with ? about:plugins?? Nothing show flash as installed.




------------------

Regards  
Mr. Leslie
 Leslie Satenstein

voice:? 514-369-1685? ? 
mailto:lsatenstein at yahoo.com 
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090519/c7c9b112/attachment.htm>

From cmadams at hiwaay.net  Tue May 19 17:23:27 2009
From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:23:27 -0500
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191024460.32341@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com> <20090519141854.GB734423@hiwaay.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191024460.32341@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090519172327.GE734423@hiwaay.net>

Once upon a time, Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> said:
> On Tue, 19 May 2009, Chris Adams wrote:
> >Maybe the gpm-libs package should have had an obsoletes on the last
> >version that didn't have the separate gpm-libs package (0:1.20.5-2)?  I
> >think that would have covered this case (or would that have just caused
> >gpm to be removed unless something else requires the base gpm package?).
> 
> That sounds like it would  have been a good idea.
> file a bug?

Well, I don't know the innards of yum; what would it do in this case
with such an obsoletes?  Specifically, if we had:

Foo-1.0.i386 (provides libFoo.so.1)
Foo-1.0.x86_64 (provides libFoo.so.1(64bit))

followed by:

Foo-1.1.x86_64
Foo-libs-1.1.i386 (provides libFoo.so.1, obsoletes Foo-1.0)
Foo-libs-1.1.x86_64 (provides libFoo.so.1(64bit), obsoletes Foo-1.0)

What would yum do?  I'm guessing the result would be both Foo-libs
packages installed and no package Foo installed, which is not the
desired outcome.  You don't want Foo-libs to require Foo (since that
defeats another reason to split off Foo-libs).

-- 
Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



From cmadams at hiwaay.net  Tue May 19 17:28:24 2009
From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:28:24 -0500
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <20090519152918.GN5296@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com> <20090519141854.GB734423@hiwaay.net>
	<20090519152918.GN5296@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090519172824.GF734423@hiwaay.net>

Once upon a time, Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> said:
> anaconda (and preupgrade, for that matter) get around it by having a
> whiteout list that tells us how to deal with these problems.  The
> whiteout is available via a yum plugin from the anaconda-yum-plugins
> package.

I see the plugin; does it use the <whiteout> section of the comps XML
file?  I don't see anything in there that would handle this gpm case.
-- 
Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 19 17:27:26 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:27:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <20090519172327.GE734423@hiwaay.net>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com> <20090519141854.GB734423@hiwaay.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191024460.32341@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090519172327.GE734423@hiwaay.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191326550.32341@localhost.localdomain>



On Tue, 19 May 2009, Chris Adams wrote:

> Once upon a time, Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> said:
>> On Tue, 19 May 2009, Chris Adams wrote:
>>> Maybe the gpm-libs package should have had an obsoletes on the last
>>> version that didn't have the separate gpm-libs package (0:1.20.5-2)?  I
>>> think that would have covered this case (or would that have just caused
>>> gpm to be removed unless something else requires the base gpm package?).
>>
>> That sounds like it would  have been a good idea.
>> file a bug?
>
> Well, I don't know the innards of yum; what would it do in this case
> with such an obsoletes?  Specifically, if we had:
>
> Foo-1.0.i386 (provides libFoo.so.1)
> Foo-1.0.x86_64 (provides libFoo.so.1(64bit))
>
> followed by:
>
> Foo-1.1.x86_64
> Foo-libs-1.1.i386 (provides libFoo.so.1, obsoletes Foo-1.0)
> Foo-libs-1.1.x86_64 (provides libFoo.so.1(64bit), obsoletes Foo-1.0)
>
> What would yum do?  I'm guessing the result would be both Foo-libs
> packages installed and no package Foo installed, which is not the
> desired outcome.  You don't want Foo-libs to require Foo (since that
> defeats another reason to split off Foo-libs).

Well, you could make foo-libs only require Foo if it is the 64bit arch.

I think you can do comparisons to %_isa

-sv



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Tue May 19 17:31:16 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:31:16 -0700
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>
	<20090519165127.GM2271@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <87hbzhj8yj.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>


"Paul W. Frields" <stickster at gmail.com> writes:
> Could this be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/498041 rearing its head

I wonder if there is a second related bug.  I was running with the "dim
when idle" enabled just to see if I liked it.  After each dimming the
display would only be brightened back part way to the previous levels.
After a few cycles of this the display was much to dim to read.

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              http://www.full-steam.org/  (ipv6-only)
         You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.



From cmadams at hiwaay.net  Tue May 19 17:33:39 2009
From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:33:39 -0500
Subject: file conflicts with previous version
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191326550.32341@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A12BBA9.1080308@redhat.com> <20090519141854.GB734423@hiwaay.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191024460.32341@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090519172327.GE734423@hiwaay.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191326550.32341@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090519173339.GG734423@hiwaay.net>

Once upon a time, Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> said:
> >What would yum do?  I'm guessing the result would be both Foo-libs
> >packages installed and no package Foo installed, which is not the
> >desired outcome.  You don't want Foo-libs to require Foo (since that
> >defeats another reason to split off Foo-libs).
> 
> Well, you could make foo-libs only require Foo if it is the 64bit arch.

That defeats another reason to split off the libs though: reducing
dependency overhead.  For example, I can't remove gpm on my system
because vim-enhance and mplayer both link against libgpm.so.1.  I assume
part of the reason to split gpm-libs off was to reduce that (having a
console mouse daemon installed when all I run is X is an odd
requirement).

-- 
Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Tue May 19 18:56:53 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:56:53 -0600
Subject: Fedora11 64bit flash not working for me.
In-Reply-To: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1242759413.4685.11.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 10:16 -0700, Leslie Satenstein wrote:

> I first tried installing the flash with 64bit rules (fedora wiki and
> adobe website), and got no flash working. None at all.
> 
> I did a cleanup and tried the 32bit installation for flash, and it too
> does not work?.
> 
> On this system, flash worked 100% for fedora10.  
> 
> The differences that I see are a)  Mozilla Firefox 3.5b4  (not the
> standard firefox)
> b) Some libraries as indicated in the adobe website, and elsewhere are
> not available, or have been renamed, so I don't know what to install. 
> 
> If you have a step by step set of rules for me to follow for the
> fedora11 64bit system, I would be delighted to try it.  
> 
> Following the comment from the adobe website, I entered firefox with
> about:plugins   Nothing show flash as installed.

Here's how I did it:

1) Download the latest 64-bit flash plugin from:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

Note that this is still in RC status...

2) Unpack the .tar.gz file and place a copy of the .so file in:
/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins (do this as root)

3) As root, run the command:
mozilla-plugin-config -i -g -v

You're finished!

Flash should then show up in Firefox about:plugins

Works like a champ on all of my 64-bit F11 systems.

Cheers

Chris


-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein






From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Tue May 19 19:02:32 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:02:32 -0600
Subject: Fedora11 64bit flash not working for me.
In-Reply-To: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

You must install at the root level.  Extract file libflashplayer.so type
nautilus from in terminal root, go to usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins and
insert in that file and you got it.



On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 10:16 -0700, Leslie Satenstein wrote:
> I first tried installing the flash with 64bit rules (fedora wiki and
> adobe website), and got no flash working. None at all.
> 
> I did a cleanup and tried the 32bit installation for flash, and it too
> does not work?.
> 
> On this system, flash worked 100% for fedora10.  
> 
> The differences that I see are a)  Mozilla Firefox 3.5b4  (not the
> standard firefox)
> b) Some libraries as indicated in the adobe website, and elsewhere are
> not available, or have been renamed, so I don't know what to install. 
> 
> If you have a step by step set of rules for me to follow for the
> fedora11 64bit system, I would be delighted to try it.  
> 
> Following the comment from the adobe website, I entered firefox with
> about:plugins   Nothing show flash as installed.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
> Mr. Leslie
> 
> Leslie Satenstein
> 
> voice:  514-369-1685    
> mailto:lsatenstein at yahoo.com 
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>




From wwoods at redhat.com  Tue May 19 19:05:40 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 15:05:40 -0400
Subject: Preupgrade problem
In-Reply-To: <13142890905182139l5ca7178nbd01602874928d3e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905182139l5ca7178nbd01602874928d3e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242759940.17097.15.camel@metroid>

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 22:39 -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> Hi.  I'm currently running F10 on x86_64 and thought I'd try an
> upgrade to F11/rawhide.  I think I used preupgrade to go from F9 to
> F10, and it worked fine.  This time, it downloaded images and tons of
> packages, then died with this output:

If you're going to be doing preupgrades, please:
1) use preupgrade-1.1.0 (in updates-testing right now), and
2) don't bother going from F9->F10->F11. Just go straight to 11/Rawhide.

> ...
> Generating metadata for preupgrade repo
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 766, in <module>
>     widgets = PreUpgradeGtk()
>   File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 374, in __init__
>     self._do_main()
>   File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 257, in _do_main
>     self.main_preupgrade()
>   File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 545, in main_preupgrade
>     callback=MDGenCallback(pbar=self.progress))
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py", line
> 651, in generate_repo
>     misc.generate_repodata(dir,comps,callback)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/preupgrade/misc.py", line
> 131, in generate_repodata
>     generate_repodata(dir, comps, callback)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/preupgrade/misc.py", line
> 147, in generate_repodata_f9
>     mdgen.doPkgMetadata()
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/createrepo/__init__.py", line
> 332, in doPkgMetadata
>     self.writeMetadataDocs(packages)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/createrepo/__init__.py", line
> 472, in writeMetadataDocs
>     self.primaryfile.write(po.xml_dump_primary_metadata())
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 1013,
> in xml_dump_primary_metadata
>     msg += misc.to_unicode(self._dump_base_items())
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 846,
> in _dump_base_items
>     (csum_type, csum, csumid) = self.checksums[0]
> IndexError: list index out of range

That's odd. It looks like createrepo failed. But notice the
"generate_repodata_f9" line there - if your system is F10, why is it
using F9 createrepo?

Try upgrading createrepo (and preupgrade!) and try it again. You should
also update your system and run 'package-cleanup --problems' to make
sure your system has the right packages. The old preupgrade (1.0.x)
didn't install updates etc. so it sometimes fails to upgrade packages
that need upgrading.

> There were also many dependency line like this before the above output:
> 
> 1:qt-x11-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package
> 1:qt-x11-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386 (installed)

These are non-fatal - please ignore them.

> I have picasa 3.x installed, and probably some other external
> packages; could they be causing the crash?  

Possibly. It looks like createrepo is having trouble handling some
non-UTF8 data from some of your packages. Probably your createrepo
package is old and just a bit buggy. 

If you were using preupgrade-1.1.0 it could possibly be due to
misbehaving packages in a third-party repo. But you didn't mention that,
so it's probably not the problem.

> If preupgrade doesn't 
> work, I may either try to upgrade via yum after release or burn a
> disk.  TIA!

Please, do yourself a favor and do *not* yum upgrade. 

If you decide to ignore me and do it anyway, do *NOT* run yum from a
terminal in X. Run it in a 'screen' session, or from a virtual terminal,
or something like that. If the terminal crashes mid-upgrade - and there
are known bugs that will cause that! - your system will be a broken
half-upgraded mess of duplicate and/or missing packages.

Seriously. Yum upgrades on a running system are not safe. Be very
careful with them.

-w



From reidr at pobox.com  Tue May 19 19:36:21 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:36:21 -0600
Subject: Preupgrade problem
Message-ID: <13142890905191236l6c5169c3ve3ffc4c82d0565e9@mail.gmail.com>

> If you're going to be doing preupgrades, please:
> 1) use preupgrade-1.1.0 (in updates-testing right now), and
> 2) don't bother going from F9->F10->F11. Just go straight to 11/Rawhide.

Just to clarify: I went from F9 to F10 when F10 came out using
preupgrade.  I'm now attempting to go from F10 to F11/Rawhide.

Here are some versions, which I should have included (sorry!):

createrepo-0.9.6-3.fc10.noarch
yum-3.2.22-5.fc10.noarch
preupgrade-1.1.0-1.fc10.noarch
rpm-4.6.0-2.fc10.x86_64

Basically, I should be up to date with F10 updates-testing.

> That's odd. It looks like createrepo failed. But notice the
> "generate_repodata_f9" line there - if your system is F10, why is it
> using F9 createrepo?

I have no idea.... I only have the above package installed, and only
/usr/bin/createrepo.  Weird.

> Try upgrading createrepo (and preupgrade!) and try it again. You should
> also update your system and run 'package-cleanup --problems' to make
> sure your system has the right packages. The old preupgrade (1.0.x)
> didn't install updates etc. so it sometimes fails to upgrade packages
> that need upgrading.

package-cleanup reported no problems found.

> > I have picasa 3.x installed, and probably some other external
> > packages; could they be causing the crash?
>
> Possibly. It looks like createrepo is having trouble handling some
> non-UTF8 data from some of your packages. Probably your createrepo
> package is old and just a bit buggy.
>
> If you were using preupgrade-1.1.0 it could possibly be due to
> misbehaving packages in a third-party repo. But you didn't mention that,
> so it's probably not the problem.

I guess that possibility is back in the running....

> > If preupgrade doesn't
> > work, I may either try to upgrade via yum after release or burn a
> > disk. ?TIA!
>
> Please, do yourself a favor and do *not* yum upgrade.
>
> If you decide to ignore me and do it anyway, do *NOT* run yum from a
> terminal in X. Run it in a 'screen' session, or from a virtual terminal,
> or something like that. If the terminal crashes mid-upgrade - and there
> are known bugs that will cause that! - your system will be a broken
> half-upgraded mess of duplicate and/or missing packages.
>
> Seriously. Yum upgrades on a running system are not safe. Be very
> careful with them.

Thanks for the warning.  I've done just that several times, since
maybe around FC4.  I guess I was lucky!  If it comes to it, I will do
an upgrade via DVD.

--
Reid

Don Marquis ?- "Procrastination is the art of keeping up with
yesterday." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/don_marquis.html



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Tue May 19 19:38:54 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:38:54 +0200
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>

Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On one system I have, F11 gdm was automatically set to 120DPI, which
> looked absolutely hideous at 1440X900 resolution. On another system, it
> set itself automatically to 94DPI, which looked better, but not ideal.
> I'd really like the default on both to be 96DPI (or perhaps 100DPI).

It defaults to the actual correct DPI value for your screen (monitor),
unless your screen is broken and reports a nonsense DPI.

        Kevin Kofler



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 19 19:39:04 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 15:39:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Preupgrade problem
In-Reply-To: <13142890905191236l6c5169c3ve3ffc4c82d0565e9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905191236l6c5169c3ve3ffc4c82d0565e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191537550.32341@localhost.localdomain>



On Tue, 19 May 2009, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:

>> If you're going to be doing preupgrades, please:
>> 1) use preupgrade-1.1.0 (in updates-testing right now), and
>> 2) don't bother going from F9->F10->F11. Just go straight to 11/Rawhide.
>
> Just to clarify: I went from F9 to F10 when F10 came out using
> preupgrade.  I'm now attempting to go from F10 to F11/Rawhide.
>
> Here are some versions, which I should have included (sorry!):
>
> createrepo-0.9.6-3.fc10.noarch
> yum-3.2.22-5.fc10.noarch
> preupgrade-1.1.0-1.fc10.noarch
> rpm-4.6.0-2.fc10.x86_64


hmm - so you updated to yum in updates-testing? There's an issue there 
that was solved today (rh bug# 501516) about createrepo not-so-working 
w/it.


>> That's odd. It looks like createrepo failed. But notice the
>> "generate_repodata_f9" line there - if your system is F10, why is it
>> using F9 createrepo?

-sv



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Tue May 19 19:40:07 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:40:07 +0200
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090511184043.7c52b45f@zooty>
	<1242169521.19845.59.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <guv1un$pka$2@ger.gmane.org>

Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> Fortunately, I have an nVidia card on one of my systems. Unfortunately,
> my laptop has switchable graphics - with the choice of Intel or ATI
> chipsets. Guess there really isn't going to be much of a workable
> solution which covers all of the bases for that one...

I'd recommend setting it to Intel only (i.e. disable the ATI one) in the
BIOS if possible, you'll save power and you'll get well-working Free
drivers.

        Kevin Kofler



From reidr at pobox.com  Tue May 19 19:47:45 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:47:45 -0600
Subject: Preupgrade problem
Message-ID: <13142890905191247l5d64c315wd974d32272dddea5@mail.gmail.com>

> > If you were using preupgrade-1.1.0 it could possibly be due to
> > misbehaving packages in a third-party repo. But you didn't mention that,
> > so it's probably not the problem.
>
> I guess that possibility is back in the running....

And here are my repos:

adobe-linux-i386                               Adobe Systems
Incorporated                                        enabled:     17
fedora                                         Fedora 10 - x86_64
                                          enabled: 14,303
google                                         Google - i386
                                          enabled:      2
google-testing                                 Google Testing - i386
                                          enabled:      1
google64                                       Google - x86_64
                                          enabled:      1
livna                                          rpm.livna.org for 10 -
x86_64                                     enabled:      3
rpmfusion-free                                 RPM Fusion for Fedora
10 - Free                                   enabled:    356
rpmfusion-free-updates                         RPM Fusion for Fedora
10 - Free - Updates                         enabled:    436
rpmfusion-nonfree                              RPM Fusion for Fedora
10 - Nonfree                                enabled:    137
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates                      RPM Fusion for Fedora
10 - Nonfree - Updates                      enabled:    275
updates                                        Fedora 10 - x86_64 -
Updates                                      enabled:  6,440
updates-testing                                Fedora 10 - x86_64 -
Test Updates                                 enabled:  1,021

Maybe the google or adobe ones are causing trouble....

Thanks for your attention.
--
Reid

Bill Cosby ?- "Fatherhood is pretending the present you love most is
soap-on-a-rope." -
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/b/bill_cosby.html



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Tue May 19 19:48:26 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:48:26 +0200
Subject: repo issue
References: <8049a2b40905120148k772cc5aeg24d83c35b32edd98@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <guv2ec$t1r$1@ger.gmane.org>

Adrin Jalali wrote:
> I was wondering why there are some packages in updates-testing repo of F11
> and still that repo is not enabled in clients. Or if they are intended to
> be pushed to updates repo, why the updates repo is not enabled.

Updates should be enabled in fedora-release-11-1. Check your .repo files
in /etc/yum.repos.d/ for .rpmnew files sitting around.

        Kevin Kofler



From reidr at pobox.com  Tue May 19 19:55:12 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:55:12 -0600
Subject: Preupgrade problem
Message-ID: <13142890905191255qbce76feu4cc41200716a8f82@mail.gmail.com>

> hmm - so you updated to yum in updates-testing? There's an issue there that was solved today (rh bug# 501516) about createrepo not-so-working w/it.

Ah, thanks, maybe that's the root of my problem then.  I'll try again
when I get a new createrepo.  (Still don't know why my output implied
F9, though....)

--
Reid



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 19 19:56:40 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 15:56:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Preupgrade problem
In-Reply-To: <13142890905191255qbce76feu4cc41200716a8f82@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905191255qbce76feu4cc41200716a8f82@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191556010.32341@localhost.localdomain>



On Tue, 19 May 2009, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:

>> hmm - so you updated to yum in updates-testing? There's an issue there that was solved today (rh bug# 501516) about createrepo not-so-working w/it.
>
> Ah, thanks, maybe that's the root of my problem then.  I'll try again
> when I get a new createrepo.  (Still don't know why my output implied
> F9, though....)

new createrepo should be in updates-testing very soon and it is in koji 
now:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=102741

-sv



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Tue May 19 20:02:30 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:02:30 +0200
Subject: modeset on/off changes xrandr output
References: <f58861e00905120208j17e0bf29te61d6d464e15a14c@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242140143.21675.52.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<f58861e00905120830s658891dcr145482ddf0133e69@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242148108.21675.70.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1242163405.2923.857.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <guv38m$t1r$2@ger.gmane.org>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> The KDE randr tool not working very well at all is, of course, a
> different bug. That you should also file. With details. :)
>
> (I had the same experience, though, when I tried it briefly. It stank.
> GNOME's is great.)

KDE 4.3 will ship with better XRandR support, and in particular with a
replacement for the krandrtray tool (which is a KDE 3 systray applet).

        Kevin Kofler



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Tue May 19 20:13:54 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:13:54 +0200
Subject: Using a pulseaudio network sink
References: <d58417910905130217x563957f1qbdfa8930741dfb33@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <guv3u2$248$1@ger.gmane.org>

Masood wrote:
> Now, playing certain file formats such as MP3 fails to a network sink
> while they can be played fine locally. The totem give this error message
> when trying to play a MP3 file; "pa_stream_proplist_update() failed: Not
> supported". I have tried using VLC to play the file and it worked just
> fine. It seems this is a problem with gstreamer. I'm wondering if anyone
> know this is a known bug or have a solution to fix it?

Looks like the PA on the server is too old.

        Kevin Kofler



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Tue May 19 20:24:31 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:24:31 +0200
Subject: tigervnc gnome theme problem
References: <ff277c2e0905140144x795cdc12o882f7d15c4af864a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <guv4hv$248$2@ger.gmane.org>

aaron lwe wrote:
> I've got a problem while using vnc to view a fedora 11 hosted gnome
> desktop, the gnome theme isn't what I chose but nodoka. If I open the
> appearance dialogbox from system->preference, the gnome theme
> instantly changed to what I selected no matter which tab of this
> dialogbox activated. And when I close the dialogbox, the theme changed
> back to nodoka. If I did this a second time, a crash about
> notification-daemon will happen. I've attached the crash report. There
> is no problem while loging on locally.

Looks like gnome-settings-daemon is not running in your VNC session.

        Kevin Kofler



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Tue May 19 20:26:19 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:26:19 +0200
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
	<1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242357815.4221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A0D1239.7080307@dresco.co.uk>
	<1242392845.8236.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <guv4lb$248$3@ger.gmane.org>

Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> This says that you should be able to use Pulse Audio directly if you
> manually change the settings for your VM from Auto Detect to /dev/dsp.

That's nonsense. /dev/dsp is still the OSS device, you still need padsp to
redirect that to PulseAudio.

        Kevin Kofler



From reidr at pobox.com  Tue May 19 21:07:30 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 15:07:30 -0600
Subject: Preupgrade problem
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191556010.32341@localhost.localdomain>
References: <13142890905191255qbce76feu4cc41200716a8f82@mail.gmail.com> 
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191556010.32341@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <13142890905191407n568a1d80hd44254732e7ed00d@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 19 May 2009, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
>> Ah, thanks, maybe that's the root of my problem then. ?I'll try again
>> when I get a new createrepo. ?(Still don't know why my output implied
>> F9, though....)
>
> new createrepo should be in updates-testing very soon and it is in koji now:
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=102741

The new createrepo fixed things, thanks!

-- 
Reid

Vince Lombardi  - "We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time."
- http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/v/vince_lombardi.html



From ml.mildred593 at gmail.com  Tue May 19 21:14:59 2009
From: ml.mildred593 at gmail.com (Mildred Ki'Lya)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:14:59 +0200
Subject: X11: Maximum number of clients reached
In-Reply-To: <1242653200.21675.431.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <4A0FE7E7.2030101@gmail.com>
	<1242653200.21675.431.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A132153.4010709@gmail.com>

On 05/18/2009 03:26 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> Check the output of 'sudo lsof -p `pidof Xorg`' when this happens.  This
> will show you what file descriptors are in use by the X server.  Last I
> checked this error message was misleading, and could mean either "I've
> hit the client limit" or "I've run out of file descriptors".
>
> - ajax
>   

Well, thank you. I haven't gotten this issue back. So maybe it has
resolved itself :) But I'll try if that happens. But it just shows all
open file descriptors of Xorg, I'm just no sure how I can see what's
wrong with just this command. But I'll ask then.

Thank you.

Mildred

-- 
Mildred Ki'Lya
?????????? ???????????????????? ??????????
? Jabber, GoogleTalk: <mildred at jabber.fr>
? Website: <http://ki.lya.online.fr>           GPG ID: 9A7D 2E2B
? Fingerprint: 197C A7E6 645B 4299 6D37 684B 6F9D A8D6 9A7D 2E2B

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: OpenPGP digital signature
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090519/f621b83b/attachment.sig>

From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Tue May 19 21:20:42 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:20:42 +0200
Subject: Preupgrade problem
References: <13142890905182139l5ca7178nbd01602874928d3e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <guv7ra$d09$1@ger.gmane.org>

Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> 1:qt-x11-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package
> 1:qt-x11-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386 (installed)

That's Qt 4.5.1 from updates-testing, you'll need to get the F11
updates-testing version after the preupgrade completes.

        Kevin Kofler



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 19 21:24:14 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:24:14 -0700
Subject: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this
In-Reply-To: <1242584932.17226.52.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242569633.17226.40.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1242575285.23006.8.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan>
	<1242584932.17226.52.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <1242768254.5008.1.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 13:58 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 11:48 -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 09:43 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 19:11 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > > > http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/
> > > > 
> > > > If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it
> > > > expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope
> > > > that Intel drivers are becoming better.
> > > 
> > > Please don't cross-post. I already saw this on fedora-list, probably
> > > along with everyone else here.
> > 
> > I didn't, because I'm not subscribed to fedora-list.
> 
> Your choice, but I'd have to ask why. In a couple of weeks all the F11
> stuff is going to go there and not here. It doesn't seem logical to
> subscribe to f-t-l and not to f-l, but again, that's your call. I'd be
> very surprised if it was the common case.

If you only used Rawhide, it'd be a logical choice. Also if you're only
interested in being part of the QA or Bugzappers teams; their traffic is
intended to go to this list and there's no intrinsic reason for people
in those groups to be be on f-l.

I've thought for a while this list could stand to be split up, but don't
seem to have much support for the idea. :\

(Right now I'm not subscribed to f-l either, FWIW, but that's probably
not too logical, I should probably read that stuff. I just don't have
time.)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jkeating at redhat.com  Tue May 19 21:29:23 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:29:23 -0700
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
Message-ID: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>

In a meeting today between Release Engineering, QA, and various team
leads, we decided to enact a 7 day slip of the Fedora 11 release date.
The primary reason behind this slip is the state of our blocker bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1  We cannot begin Release Candidate phase until the blocker bugs are closed or at least in MODIFIED state.  We are not there today, which would be our last day to enter RC phase and still have enough time to release on the 26th.  We hope to enter RC phase in the next couple days, and hit our new target, June 2nd.

Freeze breaks for critical bugs will still be accepted, however trivial
bug fixes should be pushed as updates via bodhi.  Thanks!

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090519/d02d9c34/attachment.sig>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 19 21:31:36 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:31:36 -0700
Subject: Identity (was Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read
 this)
In-Reply-To: <4A113B51.5020108@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <64b14b300905161011g62a9d59era5aa815737e3a31a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A10EFE6.2070904@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1242625423.18662.56.camel@moose>
	<4A113B51.5020108@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <1242768696.5008.7.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 18:41 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:

> If you're part of a well-known team, and you want your own website that 
> reflects the work you do as part of that team, make sure your choice of 
> domain name (maybe keithp.developer.intel.com or 
> keithp.people.freedesktop.org). Intel might prefer to use another domain 
> name entirely - intelgraphics.org - that's fine too. It carries the 
> company logo, the regular Intel site links to it.

Shan't. Your logic does not convince me. I moved from Mandriva to Red
Hat; should I move my blog also? Should I have three blog sites, one for
Mandriva-related stuff (which I still sometimes write about), one for
Red Hat, one for other topics? No, thanks. My blog is *my* blog, I'll
host it in my space.

> The site looks legitimate, but it could be a well-crafted hoax.

This is a well-known problem on the Internet. It's hardly credible to
argue that the solution should be "everyone have their blog hosted by
their employer". In absence of a truly
perfect-yet-still-somehow-not-privacy-invading internet ID system, you
use common sense and prudence. It's pretty easy to establish that Keith
Packard is a leading X.org contributor - a brief perusal of the commit
logs tells you that - and the chance of someone establishing a site
pretending to be his site, for the purposes of publishing
plausible-sounding yet misleading synposes of X.org driver development
progress (to...what end, exactly?) is close to zero. Yes, it's not *at*
zero, so with your tin foil hat on, you can't believe that site is
actually run by the same person (or three-headed lizard) who makes code
contributions to X.org. But it's close enough for government work.

Hell, I doubt you've personally verified the GPG signatures of anyone
who posts to this list, so you don't know who we all are. Unless you
reply to this message and ask me to verify it - and you trust that
no-one's hacked into my Red Hat email account - you've no idea this
email really comes from me (and, of course, to you, 'Adam Williamson' is
a pretty nebulous concept, if you think about it). But most people are
happy to work on that assumption...

I really think you're attaching far too much importance to an issue that
doesn't practically rear its head much, and not thinking too hard about
your proposed solution.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 19 21:35:57 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:35:57 -0700
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <20090519165127.GM2271@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>
	<20090519165127.GM2271@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242768957.5008.8.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 12:51 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:23:27PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> > On 05/17/2009 02:20 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >>    on my (currently up to date) f11 beta system, every so often while
> >> i'm in gnome, the screen goes black.  no, it's not the screensaver
> >> kicking in after a certain idle period.  i might have just typed
> >> something and, two seconds later, blackness.  move the mouse, i get my
> >> display back.  no harm, just weird.
> >>
> >>   i'm currently running the latest radeon driver, with "XAA" in
> >> xorg.conf.  it's not fatal, obviously, just unusual -- i've never had
> >> that behaviour in previous versions of fedora.
> >
> > This is an already reported bug of gnome-power-manager, IIRC
> 
> Could this be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/498041 rearing its head
> again?  I am experiencing this, too, using the build that supposedly
> fixed that bug.  I'm going to enable some verbosity to see if I can
> catch it in the act before reopening.

It's not the same bug, because I had that bug, and I don't have it
now. :) But it could somehow be related to that. What timeout do you
guys all have set in gnome-power-preferences for 'Put display to sleep
when...'?
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Tue May 19 21:44:35 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:44:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1242768957.5008.8.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>
	<20090519165127.GM2271@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242768957.5008.8.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191741550.11305@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 19 May 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 12:51 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:23:27PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> > > On 05/17/2009 02:20 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > >>    on my (currently up to date) f11 beta system, every so often while
> > >> i'm in gnome, the screen goes black.  no, it's not the screensaver
> > >> kicking in after a certain idle period.  i might have just typed
> > >> something and, two seconds later, blackness.  move the mouse, i get my
> > >> display back.  no harm, just weird.
> > >>
> > >>   i'm currently running the latest radeon driver, with "XAA" in
> > >> xorg.conf.  it's not fatal, obviously, just unusual -- i've never had
> > >> that behaviour in previous versions of fedora.
> > >
> > > This is an already reported bug of gnome-power-manager, IIRC
> >
> > Could this be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/498041 rearing its head
> > again?  I am experiencing this, too, using the build that
> > supposedly fixed that bug.  I'm going to enable some verbosity to
> > see if I can catch it in the act before reopening.
>
> It's not the same bug, because I had that bug, and I don't have it
> now. :) But it could somehow be related to that. What timeout do you
> guys all have set in gnome-power-preferences for 'Put display to
> sleep when...'?

  for the display, mine's set for 30 minutes but it's *absolutely* not
a function of that time value since, as others have mentioned, the
screen can go black totally arbitrarily, like when i'm literally in
the middle of typing something.  can i assume that's pretty much
what's happening to some of the others who have confirmed this?

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 19 21:55:17 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:55:17 -0700
Subject: modeset on/off changes xrandr output
In-Reply-To: <guv38m$t1r$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <f58861e00905120208j17e0bf29te61d6d464e15a14c@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242140143.21675.52.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<f58861e00905120830s658891dcr145482ddf0133e69@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242148108.21675.70.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1242163405.2923.857.camel@adam.local.net> <guv38m$t1r$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1242770117.5864.0.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 22:02 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > The KDE randr tool not working very well at all is, of course, a
> > different bug. That you should also file. With details. :)
> >
> > (I had the same experience, though, when I tried it briefly. It stank.
> > GNOME's is great.)
> 
> KDE 4.3 will ship with better XRandR support, and in particular with a
> replacement for the krandrtray tool (which is a KDE 3 systray applet).

Good news, thanks Kevin.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Tue May 19 22:20:25 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:20:25 -0600
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <guv4lb$248$3@ger.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
	<1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242357815.4221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A0D1239.7080307@dresco.co.uk>
	<1242392845.8236.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv4lb$248$3@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1242771625.4685.119.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 22:26 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > This says that you should be able to use Pulse Audio directly if you
> > manually change the settings for your VM from Auto Detect to /dev/dsp.
> 
> That's nonsense. /dev/dsp is still the OSS device, you still need padsp to
> redirect that to PulseAudio.

OK - So what's the PulseAudio device? Or the ALSA device? If I can
re-direct to there, I might make some good progress...

-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein





From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Tue May 19 22:23:04 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:23:04 -0600
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <guv1un$pka$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090511184043.7c52b45f@zooty>
	<1242169521.19845.59.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1un$pka$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1242771784.4685.122.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 21:40 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > Fortunately, I have an nVidia card on one of my systems. Unfortunately,
> > my laptop has switchable graphics - with the choice of Intel or ATI
> > chipsets. Guess there really isn't going to be much of a workable
> > solution which covers all of the bases for that one...
> 
> I'd recommend setting it to Intel only (i.e. disable the ATI one) in the
> BIOS if possible, you'll save power and you'll get well-working Free
> drivers.

Already did that.

...and I'm staying with the Intel chipset until such time as the level
of suckage with the ATI drivers for the Radeon HD3400 series reduces to
reasonably tolerable levels.

However, because of how the chip sets are set on this laptop, the ATI
chipset actually does use less power overall.

-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein





From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Tue May 19 22:40:28 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:40:28 -0600
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 21:38 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > On one system I have, F11 gdm was automatically set to 120DPI, which
> > looked absolutely hideous at 1440X900 resolution. On another system, it
> > set itself automatically to 94DPI, which looked better, but not ideal.
> > I'd really like the default on both to be 96DPI (or perhaps 100DPI).
> 
> It defaults to the actual correct DPI value for your screen (monitor),
> unless your screen is broken and reports a nonsense DPI.

...Umm, no.

My TP T400 laptop defaulted to 120DPI, and my desktop at home with a
GeForce Series nVidia chipset and a 24" Acer LCD panel defaulted to
94DPI.

Neither one of these was "optimal". At 120DPI (1440x900 native
resolution), the T400 display looks absolutely crummy. Changing it to
96DPI made it crystal clear and sharp. Doing the same on my LCD panel on
my desktop had exactly the same effect, albeit less so since it was
pretty close already.

In every case where I have had the opportunity to load F10 and F11 (many
different systems / hardware combinations), I have yet to see a
"correct", as you put it, DPI set up as a default. It's not possible
that all of those systems' displays were, again as you put it, broken.
In fact, none of them were.

..and what about projector displays where there actually is no specific
screen size? By the standard you give, all of them are "broken" by
definition since you can't optimize DPI based on the screen size. What
about laptops that are routinely connected to projectors for
presentations, while simultaneously using the local display?

Regardless of all of that, there should always be a way to tell X what
DPI you want anyway. Who said the manufacturer's "correct" setting is
the best for you, and that's assuming they use a standard way of
specifying that? Clearly different manufacturers do this differently. As
such there is no standard per se. Even if there was, you should be able
to modify this to taste with a reasonable level of safety.

Cheers,

Chris

-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein





From tom.horsley at att.net  Tue May 19 22:47:26 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:47:26 -0400
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090519184726.0cf59346@zooty>

On Tue, 19 May 2009 16:40:28 -0600
Christopher A. Williams wrote:

> Regardless of all of that, there should always be a way to tell X what
> DPI you want anyway.

There is: The -dpi option of the X server, but gdm has made it
impossible to set server startup options (which is why I switched
my login manager to kdm).



From johannbg at hi.is  Tue May 19 23:21:37 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:21:37 +0000
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1242768957.5008.8.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>	<4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>	<20090519165127.GM2271@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242768957.5008.8.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A133F01.607@hi.is>

On 05/19/2009 09:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> It's not the same bug, because I had that bug, and I don't have it
> now. :) But it could somehow be related to that. What timeout do you
> guys all have set in gnome-power-preferences for 'Put display to sleep
> when...'?
>   

30 minutes ( think default )

-- 
Viking-Ice 

One of my gods has a hammer your's was nailed to a cross
You do the math!



From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Tue May 19 23:31:43 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:31:43 +1000
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242775903.3854.2.camel@moose>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:29 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> In a meeting today between Release Engineering, QA, and various team
> leads, we decided to enact a 7 day slip of the Fedora 11 release date.
> The primary reason behind this slip is the state of our blocker bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1  We cannot begin Release Candidate phase until the blocker bugs are closed or at least in MODIFIED state.  We are not there today, which would be our last day to enter RC phase and still have enough time to release on the 26th.  We hope to enter RC phase in the next couple days, and hit our new target, June 2nd.
> 
> Freeze breaks for critical bugs will still be accepted, however trivial
> bug fixes should be pushed as updates via bodhi.  Thanks!

Does someone need to get http://fedoraproject.org/ updated to reflect
this.  It's still confident that F11 will arrive in 7 days. ;-]


R.



From johannbg at hi.is  Tue May 19 23:24:08 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:24:08 +0000
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191741550.11305@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>	<4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>	<20090519165127.GM2271@localhost.localdomain>	<1242768957.5008.8.camel@adam.local.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191741550.11305@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A133F98.7010805@hi.is>

On 05/19/2009 09:44 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   for the display, mine's set for 30 minutes but it's *absolutely* not
> a function of that time value since, as others have mentioned, the
> screen can go black totally arbitrarily, like when i'm literally in
> the middle of typing something.  can i assume that's pretty much
> what's happening to some of the others who have confirmed this?
>   
Yup

30 minutes here same symptom

-- 
Viking-Ice 

One of my gods has a hammer your's was nailed to a cross
You do the math!



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Tue May 19 23:37:55 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 01:37:55 +0200
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
	<1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242357815.4221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A0D1239.7080307@dresco.co.uk>
	<1242392845.8236.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv4lb$248$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242771625.4685.119.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <guvfsj$dhj$3@ger.gmane.org>

Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> OK - So what's the PulseAudio device? Or the ALSA device? If I can
> re-direct to there, I might make some good progress...

They are not devices. Only the obsolete OSS (Open Sound System) API uses
devices. You need to actually use a library to talk to ALSA or PulseAudio,
which may be why some proprietary software still doesn't support it out of
the box and why hacks like padsp are needed.

        Kevin Kofler



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 19 23:59:43 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 05:29:43 +0530
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1242775903.3854.2.camel@moose>
References: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242775903.3854.2.camel@moose>
Message-ID: <4A1347EF.5090702@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/20/2009 05:01 AM, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:29 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> In a meeting today between Release Engineering, QA, and various team
>> leads, we decided to enact a 7 day slip of the Fedora 11 release date.
>> The primary reason behind this slip is the state of our blocker bug:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1  We cannot begin Release Candidate phase until the blocker bugs are closed or at least in MODIFIED state.  We are not there today, which would be our last day to enter RC phase and still have enough time to release on the 26th.  We hope to enter RC phase in the next couple days, and hit our new target, June 2nd.
>>
>> Freeze breaks for critical bugs will still be accepted, however trivial
>> bug fixes should be pushed as updates via bodhi.  Thanks!
> 
> Does someone need to get http://fedoraproject.org/ updated to reflect
> this.  It's still confident that F11 will arrive in 7 days. ;-]

Patch has been send to fedora-websites list.

Rahul



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 19 23:59:09 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:59:09 -0700
Subject: Sound under VMWare [was: Mouse fix]
In-Reply-To: <1242771625.4685.119.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <loom.20090514T155119-761@post.gmane.org>
	<1242326641.12568.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242337240.12568.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242351338.14423.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242357815.4221.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A0D1239.7080307@dresco.co.uk>
	<1242392845.8236.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv4lb$248$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242771625.4685.119.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242777549.8848.2.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:20 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 22:26 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > > This says that you should be able to use Pulse Audio directly if you
> > > manually change the settings for your VM from Auto Detect to /dev/dsp.
> > 
> > That's nonsense. /dev/dsp is still the OSS device, you still need padsp to
> > redirect that to PulseAudio.
> 
> OK - So what's the PulseAudio device? Or the ALSA device? If I can
> re-direct to there, I might make some good progress...

PA and ALSA do not provide a simple device node to which you can direct
sound as a stream. That's just not how they're designed. If you only
have the choice of some node to point at, that's an indication the
software only handles the OSS output format. If it handles ALSA or PA
output formats natively, it'll have appropriate choices somewhere for
these.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From dgboles at comcast.net  Tue May 19 23:58:52 2009
From: dgboles at comcast.net (David)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:58:52 -0400
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A1347BC.6030901@comcast.net>

On 5/19/2009 5:29 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> In a meeting today between Release Engineering, QA, and various team
> leads, we decided to enact a 7 day slip of the Fedora 11 release date.
> The primary reason behind this slip is the state of our blocker bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1  We cannot begin Release Candidate phase until the blocker bugs are closed or at least in MODIFIED state.  We are not there today, which would be our last day to enter RC phase and still have enough time to release on the 26th.  We hope to enter RC phase in the next couple days, and hit our new target, June 2nd.
> 
> Freeze breaks for critical bugs will still be accepted, however trivial
> bug fixes should be pushed as updates via bodhi.  Thanks!



What does this do to the 'restart' of Rawhide please?


-- 


  David



From poelstra at redhat.com  Wed May 20 00:02:08 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:02:08 -0700
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A134880.8010806@redhat.com>

Jesse Keating said the following on 05/19/2009 02:29 PM Pacific Time:
> In a meeting today between Release Engineering, QA, and various team
> leads, we decided to enact a 7 day slip of the Fedora 11 release date.
> The primary reason behind this slip is the state of our blocker bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1  We cannot begin Release Candidate phase until the blocker bugs are closed or at least in MODIFIED state.  We are not there today, which would be our last day to enter RC phase and still have enough time to release on the 26th.  We hope to enter RC phase in the next couple days, and hit our new target, June 2nd.
>
> Freeze breaks for critical bugs will still be accepted, however trivial
> bug fixes should be pushed as updates via bodhi.  Thanks!
>
>

Detailed schedules have been updated to reflect this change and some 
additional events:

1) Final GA Blocker Bug review meeting on Friday, 2009-05-22
2) "Go/No-Go" Meeting on 2009-05-26 @ 3 PM EDT

http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-releng-tasks.html

John



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 20 00:06:49 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:06:49 -0700
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:40 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 21:38 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > > On one system I have, F11 gdm was automatically set to 120DPI, which
> > > looked absolutely hideous at 1440X900 resolution. On another system, it
> > > set itself automatically to 94DPI, which looked better, but not ideal.
> > > I'd really like the default on both to be 96DPI (or perhaps 100DPI).
> > 
> > It defaults to the actual correct DPI value for your screen (monitor),
> > unless your screen is broken and reports a nonsense DPI.
> 
> ...Umm, no.
> 
> My TP T400 laptop defaulted to 120DPI, and my desktop at home with a
> GeForce Series nVidia chipset and a 24" Acer LCD panel defaulted to
> 94DPI.
> 
> Neither one of these was "optimal". At 120DPI (1440x900 native
> resolution), the T400 display looks absolutely crummy. Changing it to
> 96DPI made it crystal clear and sharp. Doing the same on my LCD panel on
> my desktop had exactly the same effect, albeit less so since it was
> pretty close already.
> 
> In every case where I have had the opportunity to load F10 and F11 (many
> different systems / hardware combinations), I have yet to see a
> "correct", as you put it, DPI set up as a default. It's not possible
> that all of those systems' displays were, again as you put it, broken.
> In fact, none of them were.

It sounds like you're not really following the concept of DPI. I'm not
sure how you could possibly see different DPI settings as "sharp" or
"not sharp", that just isn't the effect of changing DPI at all. All it
does is cause characters to be rendered larger (high DPI) or smaller
(low DPI).

> Regardless of all of that, there should always be a way to tell X what
> DPI you want anyway. Who said the manufacturer's "correct" setting is
> the best for you, and that's assuming they use a standard way of
> specifying that? 

OK, clearly you don't understand the concept.

There's no such thing as a DPI that's 'best for you'. DPI means dots per
inch. The correct DPI is a pure mathematical calculation based on the
size of the display and the resolution in use. There is no room for
subjectivity.

The objective of setting the correct DPI is so that fonts will be
rendered at the correct size. There is an absolute, standard definition
of exactly how big - in real, physical units, not pixels - a twelve
point letter A should be, for instance. When you set your display to the
correct DPI, a 12 point letter A will be displayed at exactly the right
size in actual physical terms (inches, centimetres, whatever it says on
your ruler).

If everyone set their DPI correctly (and all applications and desktops
rendered fonts, and physical size-specified graphical items, correctly),
then - no matter what particular display you happened to be looking at
things on - they'd always look the same size, and that would be the size
the creator intended.

There's several technical obstacles to this goal, which is why GNOME
recently decided to forget about trying to respect this concept
('resolution independence') and just override everyone's DPI setting to
96. This is a regrettable but fairly sensible decision. However, if you
don't understand the theory here, you're never going to get what's going
on exactly right.

> Clearly different manufacturers do this differently. 

Manufacturers do not specify the correct DPI, nor do they 'do it
differently'. Display panels provide their physical size via their EDID
information. X uses this information combined with its knowledge of what
resolution is in use to calculate the correct DPI. Some displays provide
their size in stupidly boneheaded ways, but most of these special cases
have been caught by now, and the values that were calculated for your
displays both sound like they were correct, to me. If you're not
confident in your monitor manufacturer, it's fairly trivial to figure
out the correct DPI setting for your monitor with nothing but a ruler.
Measure the display in inches horizontally, and divide the result into
the horizontal resolution in pixels. That's the correct DPI setting for
the display.

> As
> such there is no standard per se.

Yes, there is.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 20 00:07:19 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:07:19 -0700
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <4A133F98.7010805@hi.is>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>	<20090519165127.GM2271@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242768957.5008.8.camel@adam.local.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191741550.11305@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A133F98.7010805@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1242778039.8848.11.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 23:24 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> On 05/19/2009 09:44 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >   for the display, mine's set for 30 minutes but it's *absolutely* not
> > a function of that time value since, as others have mentioned, the
> > screen can go black totally arbitrarily, like when i'm literally in
> > the middle of typing something.  can i assume that's pretty much
> > what's happening to some of the others who have confirmed this?
> >   
> Yup
> 
> 30 minutes here same symptom

Can you guys set it to 'never' and see if the behaviour changes?
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Wed May 20 00:14:23 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 02:14:23 +0200
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <guvi0v$m3q$1@ger.gmane.org>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> There's several technical obstacles to this goal, which is why GNOME
> recently decided to forget about trying to respect this concept
> ('resolution independence') and just override everyone's DPI setting to
> 96. This is a regrettable but fairly sensible decision. However, if you
> don't understand the theory here, you're never going to get what's going
> on exactly right.

Uh, I thought that was an old decision and now it got changed to actually
respect the native DPI. Did they revert it again? (If so, that'd be
regrettable, as everything else, including KDE, is honoring DPI these
days.)

        Kevin Kofler



From jkeating at redhat.com  Wed May 20 00:26:58 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:26:58 -0700
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <4A1347BC.6030901@comcast.net>
References: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1347BC.6030901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1242779218.3029.39.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 19:58 -0400, David wrote:
> What does this do to the 'restart' of Rawhide please?

The restart of rawhide will happen when we're done with Fedora 11
development.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090519/37295cc9/attachment.sig>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 20 00:29:20 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:29:20 -0700
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <guvi0v$m3q$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net> <guvi0v$m3q$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1242779360.8848.17.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 02:14 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > There's several technical obstacles to this goal, which is why GNOME
> > recently decided to forget about trying to respect this concept
> > ('resolution independence') and just override everyone's DPI setting to
> > 96. This is a regrettable but fairly sensible decision. However, if you
> > don't understand the theory here, you're never going to get what's going
> > on exactly right.
> 
> Uh, I thought that was an old decision and now it got changed to actually
> respect the native DPI. Did they revert it again? (If so, that'd be
> regrettable, as everything else, including KDE, is honoring DPI these
> days.)

Yeah, it ping pongs. :) If I'm keeping score correctly, the last state
is that it got ping ponged back to '96dpi by default for everyone'
again, but I may be off. It doesn't seem to be easily Google-able.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 20 00:32:40 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:32:40 -0700
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1242779560.8848.18.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:06 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> > In every case where I have had the opportunity to load F10 and F11 (many
> > different systems / hardware combinations), I have yet to see a
> > "correct", as you put it, DPI set up as a default. It's not possible
> > that all of those systems' displays were, again as you put it, broken.
> > In fact, none of them were.
> 
> It sounds like you're not really following the concept of DPI. I'm not
> sure how you could possibly see different DPI settings as "sharp" or
> "not sharp", that just isn't the effect of changing DPI at all. All it
> does is cause characters to be rendered larger (high DPI) or smaller
> (low DPI).

Hmm, actually, I just realized how this could possibly be...I *think*
there's hinting for certain pixel sizes built in to some fonts, so
they'll look better if they happen to be rendered at that exact pixel
size. And that hinting tends to be done for the pixel sizes you get in
common point sizes at 96dpi.

Still, doesn't invalidate the overall principle.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed May 20 00:32:27 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:32:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
Message-ID: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:

> From: Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: every so often, screen just goes black
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 5:07 PM
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 23:24 +0000,
> "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> > On 05/19/2009 09:44 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > >???for the display, mine's set for
> 30 minutes but it's *absolutely* not
> > > a function of that time value since, as others
> have mentioned, the
> > > screen can go black totally arbitrarily, like
> when i'm literally in
> > > the middle of typing something.? can i
> assume that's pretty much
> > > what's happening to some of the others who have
> confirmed this?
> > >???
> > Yup
> > 
> > 30 minutes here same symptom
> 
> Can you guys set it to 'never' and see if the behaviour
> changes?
> -- 
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT
> org
> http://www.happyassassin.net
> 
> -- 

It happens!  I see it in both GNOME and KDE environments.  I had it to never and it happens as soon as I type something in internet.   Moving the mouse or a touching a key gets me back.  It is strange but it does happen.  I guess it is not a big deal, but others may have other opinions.

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed May 20 00:36:46 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:36:46 -0400
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20090519203646.47d04467@zooty>

On Tue, 19 May 2009 17:06:49 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:

> There's no such thing as a DPI that's 'best for you'. DPI means dots per
> inch. The correct DPI is a pure mathematical calculation based on the
> size of the display and the resolution in use. There is no room for
> subjectivity.

It is utter and complete nonsense like this which leads to so many
idiotic decisions in linux. Caring about DPI having a formally correct
definition is for those afflicted with OCD. Being able
to read the damn characters most apps put on the screen is what
virtually everyone in the real world would prefer.

There are two ways to make the characters readable:

1. Rewrite every app in creation to conform to yet another new complicated
Xorg visibility layer for applying magnification factors computed
from visual acuity of the user, and distance from display, combined
with several years worth of human factors AI algorithms.

2. Lie about the DPI and achieve the mathematically identical effect
without modifying a single app.

In fact, quite a lot of monitors don't report the correct physical
dimensions, so unless you can lie about the DPI, you can't even correct
these display devices to show the absolute anally correct DPI, much
less the DPI that makes characters visible on your 52DPI HD monitor you
are sitting 3 feet away from.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 20 00:48:14 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:48:14 -0700
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <20090519203646.47d04467@zooty>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090519203646.47d04467@zooty>
Message-ID: <1242780494.8848.33.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 20:36 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 19 May 2009 17:06:49 -0700
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > There's no such thing as a DPI that's 'best for you'. DPI means dots per
> > inch. The correct DPI is a pure mathematical calculation based on the
> > size of the display and the resolution in use. There is no room for
> > subjectivity.
> 
> It is utter and complete nonsense like this which leads to so many
> idiotic decisions in linux. Caring about DPI having a formally correct
> definition is for those afflicted with OCD. 

...and anyone who ever, say, prints anything.

> Being able
> to read the damn characters most apps put on the screen is what
> virtually everyone in the real world would prefer.

Ironically, that's exactly what resolution independence is intended to
achieve.

> There are two ways to make the characters readable:
> 
> 1. Rewrite every app in creation to conform to yet another new complicated
> Xorg visibility layer for applying magnification factors computed
> from visual acuity of the user, and distance from display, combined
> with several years worth of human factors AI algorithms.
> 
> 2. Lie about the DPI and achieve the mathematically identical effect
> without modifying a single app.

Er, how does this 'achieve the mathematically identical effect'?

I bought a new laptop a few months back. It has an 8", 1600x768
resolution screen. That's a DPI up around 180. If I set it to a DPI of
96, then it's almost impossible to read anything at default font sizes.
Setting the wrong DPI and then doubling all my font sizes to compensate
would be absurd. The correct solution is to set the correct DPI - 180 -
so that characters get rendered at a sensible physical size without me
having to go around changing font sizes to something ridiculous (like a
default of 20 points) all over the place.

(If I were to set the default font size to 20 points in OpenOffice, so I
could actually read a document I was typing, then when I printed it out,
it'd be ridiculously large...)

If you go out and read the reviews for the Vaio P, lots of reviewers
(running Windows, remember, which doesn't allow you to set an arbitrary
DPI, and can't get above 120dpi with any hack) panned it because 'the
fonts are too small'. Which is an absurd complaint caused by the
limitations of using an arbitrary default DPI setting. As more and more
very high resolution displays are released - which they will be - this
will become an issue for more and more people. Proper resolution
independence is the only sane solution. There's no other way you can
properly work when a display's actual physical resolution may be 80dpi
(some old 19" 1024x768 monitor) or 250dpi (a high-end monitor in a
year's time, or an e-ink display...)

> In fact, quite a lot of monitors don't report the correct physical
> dimensions, so unless you can lie about the DPI, you can't even correct
> these display devices to show the absolute anally correct DPI, much
> less the DPI that makes characters visible on your 52DPI HD monitor you
> are sitting 3 feet away from.

So? It's quite easy to exclude obviously wrong dimensions and just go
with a default, or if they're only slightly wrong, the result won't be
terrible (and likely no worse than the entirely arbitrary 96dpi).
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 20 00:54:28 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:54:28 -0700
Subject: Priority / Severity redux: vote!
Message-ID: <1242780868.8848.40.camel@adam.local.net>

Well, this got no response when posted as a reply to another thread, so
let's give it its own :)

To recap, we decided a while back it would be desirable to have triagers
set priority / severity when triaging new bugs, according to a
consistent system.

This was proposed to the development group, and received no "don't do
that, you crazy mad fool!"-type feedback. So we're good on that front.

Therefore, I intend to go ahead and add this to the standard triage
procedure soon - deadline end of this week, as it's all been agreed.

The remaining issues are:

* fully document the conventions for setting priority / severity
* agree on either the Beland / Williamson Method or the Cepl Method

on the second point - to recap, the Beland / Williamson Method is for
triagers to set both priority and severity, with severity indicating the
significance of the issue with regard only to the package it occurs in,
while priority indicates the significance of the issue with regard to
the distribution as a whole.

For e.g., a bug which caused all the icons in the Firefox toolbar to
disappear might be medium severity (it's not really a highly severe bug
*in Firefox*, there's no crashing or data loss) but urgent priority (as
it'd look really bad to release Fedora with such a visible bug in a
package almost everyone uses). A bug which caused some obscure
application that few people use to crash on startup would be high or
urgent severity (it's obviously a bad bug in the app), but low or medium
priority (it's not really that important to the project as a whole as
it's not widely used).

The Cepl Method would have triagers set only the severity. Low, medium
and high severity would indicate the importance of the issue just for
the package it was in, much like in the B / W Method. Urgent severity
would be used if it was a bad issue that was also, in the triager's
judgement, particularly significant for the distribution as a whole.
Priority would be left alone, on the understanding it should be used
solely by the maintainer.

In today's IRC meeting, most people came down in favour of the Cepl
Method, so unless there's a significant vote the other way here, we'll
go ahead and start implementing the Cepl Method at the end of this week.
If you have further input on this or would prefer the Beland /
Williamson method, speak up now!
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 20 00:57:52 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:57:52 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090520005752.99B1010F8FA@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    eric-4.3.3-1.fc9
    freeradius-2.1.6-1.fc9
    ifuse-0.9.1-5.fc9
    libiphone-0.9.1-2.fc9
    libplist-0.12-2.fc9
    oggvideotools-0.7a-4.fc9
    rrdtool-1.3.8-1.fc9
    xine-ui-0.99.5-11.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 eric-4.3.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5162)
 Python IDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Johan Cwiklinski <johan AT x-tnd DOT be> 4.3.3-1
- 4.3.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 freeradius-2.1.6-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5156)
 High-performance and highly configurable free RADIUS server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

  - update to latest upstream release, from upstream Changelog:      Feature
improvements        * radclient exits with 0 on successful (accept / ack), and 1
otherwise (no response / reject)        * Added support for %%{sql:UPDATE ..},
and insert/delete          Patch from Arran Cudbard-Bell        * Added sample
"do not respond" policy.  See raddb/policy.conf          and raddb/sites-
available/do_not_respond        * Cleanups to Suse spec file from Norbert
Wegener        * New VSAs for Juniper from Bjorn Mork        * Include more RFC
dictionaries in the default install        * More documentation for the WiMAX
module        * Added "chase_referrals" and "rebind" configuration to rlm_ldap.
This helps with Active Directory.  See raddb/modules/ldap        * Don't load
pre/post-proxy if proxying is disabled.        * Added %%{md5:...}, which
returns MD5 hash in hex.        * Added configurable "retry_interval" and
"poll_interval"          for "detail" listeners.        * Added
"delete_mppe_keys" configuration option to rlm_wimax.          Apparently some
WiMAX clients misbehave when they see those keys.        * Added experimental
rlm_ruby from          http://github.com/Antti/freeradius-server/tree/master
* Add Tunnel attributes to ldap.attrmap        * Enable virtual servers to be
reloaded on HUP.  For now, only          the "authorize", "authenticate", etc.
processing sections are          reloaded.  Clients and "listen" sections are
NOT reloaded.        * Updated "radwatch" script to be more robust.  See
scripts/radwatch        * Added certificate compatibility notes in
raddb/certs/README,          for compatibility with different operating systems.
(i.e. Windows)        * Permit multiple "-e" in radmin.        * Add support for
originating CoA-Request and Disconnect-Request.          See raddb/sites-
available/originate-coa.        * Added "lifetime" and "max_queries" to
raddb/sql.conf.          This helps address the problem of hung SQL sockets.
* Allow packets to be injected via radmin.  See "inject help"          in
radmin.        * Answer VMPS reconfirmation request.  Patch from Hermann Lauer.
* Sample logrotate script in scripts/logrotate.freeradius        * Add
configurable poll interval for "detail" listeners        * New "raddebug"
command.  This prints debugging information from          a running server.  See
"man raddebug.        * Add "require_message_authenticator" configuration to
home_server          configuration.  This makes the server add Message-
Authenticator          to all outgoing Access-Request packets.        * Added
smsotp module, as contributed by Siemens.        * Enabled the administration
socket in the default install.          See raddb/sites-available/control-
socket, and "man radmin"        * Handle duplicate clients, such as with
replicated or          load-balanced SQL servers and "readclients = yes"
Bug fixes        * Minor changes to allow building without VQP.        * Minor
fixes from John Center        * Fixed raddebug example        * Don't crash when
deleting attributes via unlang        * Be friendlier to very fast clients
* Updated the "detail" listener so that it only polls once,          and not
many times in a row, leaking memory each time...        * Update comparison for
Packet-Src-IP-Address (etc.) so that          the operators other than '=='
work.        * Did autoconf magic to work around weird libtool bug        * Make
rlm_perl keep tags for tagged attributes in more situations        * Update UID
checking for radmin        * Added "include_length" field for TTLS.  It's needed
for RFC          compliance, but not (apparently) for interoperability.        *
Clean up control sockets when they are closed, so that we don't          leak
memory.        * Define SUN_LEN for systems that don't have it.        * Correct
some boundary conditions in the conditional checker ("if")          in "unlang".
Bug noted by Arran Cudbard-Bell.        * Work around minor building issues in
gmake.  This should only          have affected developers.        * Change how
we manage unprivileged user/group, so that we do not          create control
sockets owned by root.        * Fixed more minor issues found by Coverity.
* Allow raddb/certs/bootstrap to run when there is no "make"          command
installed.        * In radiusd.conf, run_dir depends on the name of the program,
and isn't hard-coded to "..../radiusd"        * Check for EOF in more places in
the "detail" file reader.        * Added Freeswitch dictionary.        * Chop
ethernet frames in VMPS, rather than droppping packets.        * Fix EAP-TLS
bug.  Patch from Arnaud Ebalard        * Don't lose string for regex-compares in
the "users" file.        * Expose more functions in rlm_sql to rlm_sqlippool,
which           helps on systems where RTLD_GLOBAL is off.        * Fix typos in
MySQL schemas for ippools.        * Remove macro that was causing build issues
on some platforms.        * Fixed issues with dead home servers.  Bug noted by
Chris Moules.        * Fixed "access after free" with some dynamic clients.    -
fix packaging bug, some directories missing execute permission
/etc/raddb/dictionary now readable by all.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 John Dennis <jdennis at redhat.com> - 2.1.6-1
- update to latest upstream release, from upstream Changelog:
    Feature improvements
      * radclient exits with 0 on successful (accept / ack), and 1
        otherwise (no response / reject)
      * Added support for %{sql:UPDATE ..}, and insert/delete
        Patch from Arran Cudbard-Bell
      * Added sample "do not respond" policy.  See raddb/policy.conf
        and raddb/sites-available/do_not_respond
      * Cleanups to Suse spec file from Norbert Wegener
      * New VSAs for Juniper from Bjorn Mork
      * Include more RFC dictionaries in the default install
      * More documentation for the WiMAX module
      * Added "chase_referrals" and "rebind" configuration to rlm_ldap.
        This helps with Active Directory.  See raddb/modules/ldap
      * Don't load pre/post-proxy if proxying is disabled.
      * Added %{md5:...}, which returns MD5 hash in hex.
      * Added configurable "retry_interval" and "poll_interval"
        for "detail" listeners.
      * Added "delete_mppe_keys" configuration option to rlm_wimax.
        Apparently some WiMAX clients misbehave when they see those keys.
      * Added experimental rlm_ruby from
        http://github.com/Antti/freeradius-server/tree/master
      * Add Tunnel attributes to ldap.attrmap
      * Enable virtual servers to be reloaded on HUP.  For now, only
        the "authorize", "authenticate", etc. processing sections are
        reloaded.  Clients and "listen" sections are NOT reloaded.
      * Updated "radwatch" script to be more robust.  See scripts/radwatch
      * Added certificate compatibility notes in raddb/certs/README,
        for compatibility with different operating systems. (i.e. Windows)
      * Permit multiple "-e" in radmin.
      * Add support for originating CoA-Request and Disconnect-Request.
        See raddb/sites-available/originate-coa.
      * Added "lifetime" and "max_queries" to raddb/sql.conf.
        This helps address the problem of hung SQL sockets.
      * Allow packets to be injected via radmin.  See "inject help"
        in radmin.
      * Answer VMPS reconfirmation request.  Patch from Hermann Lauer.
      * Sample logrotate script in scripts/logrotate.freeradius
      * Add configurable poll interval for "detail" listeners
      * New "raddebug" command.  This prints debugging information from
        a running server.  See "man raddebug.
      * Add "require_message_authenticator" configuration to home_server
        configuration.  This makes the server add Message-Authenticator
        to all outgoing Access-Request packets.
      * Added smsotp module, as contributed by Siemens.
      * Enabled the administration socket in the default install.
        See raddb/sites-available/control-socket, and "man radmin"
      * Handle duplicate clients, such as with replicated or
        load-balanced SQL servers and "readclients = yes"

    Bug fixes
      * Minor changes to allow building without VQP.
      * Minor fixes from John Center
      * Fixed raddebug example
      * Don't crash when deleting attributes via unlang
      * Be friendlier to very fast clients
      * Updated the "detail" listener so that it only polls once,
        and not many times in a row, leaking memory each time...
      * Update comparison for Packet-Src-IP-Address (etc.) so that
        the operators other than '==' work.
      * Did autoconf magic to work around weird libtool bug
      * Make rlm_perl keep tags for tagged attributes in more situations
      * Update UID checking for radmin
      * Added "include_length" field for TTLS.  It's needed for RFC
        compliance, but not (apparently) for interoperability.
      * Clean up control sockets when they are closed, so that we don't
        leak memory.
      * Define SUN_LEN for systems that don't have it.
      * Correct some boundary conditions in the conditional checker ("if")
        in "unlang".  Bug noted by Arran Cudbard-Bell.
      * Work around minor building issues in gmake.  This should only
        have affected developers.
      * Change how we manage unprivileged user/group, so that we do not
        create control sockets owned by root.
      * Fixed more minor issues found by Coverity.
      * Allow raddb/certs/bootstrap to run when there is no "make"
        command installed.
      * In radiusd.conf, run_dir depends on the name of the program,
        and isn't hard-coded to "..../radiusd"
      * Check for EOF in more places in the "detail" file reader.
      * Added Freeswitch dictionary.
      * Chop ethernet frames in VMPS, rather than droppping packets.
      * Fix EAP-TLS bug.  Patch from Arnaud Ebalard
      * Don't lose string for regex-compares in the "users" file.
      * Expose more functions in rlm_sql to rlm_sqlippool, which 
        helps on systems where RTLD_GLOBAL is off.
      * Fix typos in MySQL schemas for ippools.
      * Remove macro that was causing build issues on some platforms.
      * Fixed issues with dead home servers.  Bug noted by Chris Moules.
      * Fixed "access after free" with some dynamic clients.

- fix packaging bug, some directories missing execute permission
  /etc/raddb/dictionary now readable by all.
* Tue Feb 24 2009 John Dennis <jdennis at redhat.com> - 2.1.3-4
- fix type usage in unixodbc to match new type usage in unixodbc API
* Thu Feb 19 2009 John Dennis <jdennis at redhat.com> - 2.1.3-3
- add pointer to Red Hat documentation in docdir
* Sat Jan 24 2009 Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 2.1.3-2
- rebuild for dependencies
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ifuse-0.9.1-5.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5223)
 Mount Apple iPhone and iPod touch devices
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream stable release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.9.1-5
- Add all the libiphone deps as apparently F-9 needs it
* Mon May 18 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.9.1-4
- Once more with feeling....
* Mon May 18 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.9.1-3
- And other for fun
* Mon May 18 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.9.1-2
- Add dep not pulled in by pkgconfig
* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.9.1-1
- Update to official 0.9.1 release
* Fri Apr  3 2009 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.1.0-8.20090401git5db1ccc
- Update to github version
* Fri Apr  3 2009 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.1.0-7.20090308git8d6eebb
- Update to latest master
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.0-6.20081214gitb0412bf
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libiphone-0.9.1-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5223)
 Library for connecting to Apple iPhone and iPod touch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream stable release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.9.1-2
- Add new build reqs
* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.9.1-1
- Update to official 0.9.1 release
* Fri Apr  3 2009 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.1.0-11.20090325git443edc8
- Update to latest master version
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.0-10.20090103git5cde554
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libplist-0.12-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5223)
 Library for manipulating Apple Binary and XML Property Lists
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream stable release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oggvideotools-0.7a-4.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5225)
 Toolbox for manipulating Ogg video files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This increments to the latest version of the utility as well as takes care of
two bugs, on found, patched, and submitted upstream and the other an upstream
patch. Upstream has been nice enough to work with me on fielding bugs as well as
testing the end result but want to request testing purely for QA purposes. Quite
a few bugs noted by upstream were fixed.  Added oggResize, oggSlideshow, and
oggThumb. Quite a few bugs noted by upstream were fixed.  Added oggResize,
oggSlideshow, and oggThumb. Quite a few bugs noted by upstream were fixed.
Added oggResize.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Adam Miller <maxamillion [AT] gmail.com> - 0.7a-4
- Patch from upstream applied for segfault in oggStream due to big packets
* Fri May 15 2009 Adam Miller <maxamillion [AT] gmail.com> - 0.7a-3
- Patched a bug in oggSlideshow no showing help menu if no args passed
* Fri May 15 2009 Adam Miller <maxamillion [AT] gmail.com> - 0.7a-2
- Added gd-devel to requires as there was an issue with dependencies of:
	oggSlideshow, oggResize, and oggThumb
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 0.7a-1
- update to 0.7a
  dropped upstreamed cstring patch
  added oggResize
  bugfix for wrong size in oggThumb, which causes a green border
  minor bugfixes:
  - random number generator is always initialized with a random seed
  - command line options harmonized (e.g. -s is always size)
  handling for corrupt End-Of-Stream markers
  added sample scripts for easy creation of thumbnails and slideshows with sound
  dokumentation update
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.6-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Jan  9 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 0.6-1
- update to 0.6
  added oggSlideshow, oggThumb
  handling for huge files > 4GB implemented
  packet order with oggCut has been fixed and cleaned up
  ogg type in BOS packet is completely analysed
  added support for kate-streams (done by ogg.k.ogg.k)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rrdtool-1.3.8-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5198)
 Round Robin Database Tool to store and display time-series data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream maintenance release, see http://n2.nabble.com/rrdtool-1.3.8---fixes-
for-solaris-and-rrd_restore-td2939680ef937164.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 1.3.8-1
- Update to rrdtool 1.3.8
* Thu Apr  9 2009 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 1.3.7-1
- Update to rrdtool 1.3.7
* Mon Jan 19 2009 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 1.3.6-1
- Update to rrdtool 1.3.6
* Tue Dec 16 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 1.3.5-1
- Update to rrdtool 1.3.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xine-ui-0.99.5-11.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5175)
 A skinned xlib-based gui for xine-lib
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix minor packaging bug.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 20 00:57:52 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:57:52 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090520005752.A363B10F8FB@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    bit-0.4.90-9.fc11
    botan-1.8.2-1.fc11
    eric-4.3.3-1.fc11
    evolution-2.26.2-1.fc11
    evolution-data-server-2.26.2-1.fc11
    evolution-exchange-2.26.2-1.fc11
    gnonlin-0.10.10.3-1.fc11
    gtkhtml3-3.26.2-1.fc11
    inkscape-0.47-0.9.20090518svn.fc11
    kmplayer-0.11.1a-1.fc11
    monotone-0.44-1.fc11
    oggvideotools-0.7a-4.fc11
    perl-Class-C3-Adopt-NEXT-0.10-1.fc11
    perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.08-1.fc11
    perl-DateTime-Format-HTTP-0.38-2.fc11
    perl-Git-CPAN-Patch-0.1.6-1.fc11
    perl-HTTP-Request-AsCGI-0.9-1.fc11
    perl-POE-1.005-1.fc11
    perl-Variable-Magic-0.34-1.fc11
    perl-XML-RSS-LibXML-0.3004-1.fc11
    perl-local-lib-1.004000-1.fc11
    qemu-0.10.4-5.fc11
    rpmrebuild-2.3-3.fc11
    sugar-calculator-30-1.fc11
    vgabios-0.6-0.6.c.fc11
    xine-ui-0.99.5-11.fc11
    xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.1.0-7.fc11
    yum-utils-1.1.22-1.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 bit-0.4.90-9.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5226)
 C++ library to simplify bit stream parsing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Rebuild for F11 with arch s390x disabled
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr <rvinyard at cs.nmsu.edu> - 0.4.90-9
- Added s390x to exclude arch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 botan-1.8.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5210)
 Crypto library written in C++
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 1.8.2. See http://botan.randombit.net/news/releases/1_8_2.html for
changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Apr 25 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 1.8.2-1
- Update to 1.8.2.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 eric-4.3.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5202)
 Python IDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Johan Cwiklinski <johan AT x-tnd DOT be> 4.3.3-1
- 4.3.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 evolution-2.26.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5188)
 Mail and calendar client for GNOME
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 2.26.2-1.fc11
- Update to 2.26.2
- Remove patch for GNOME bug #578685 (fixed upstream).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 evolution-data-server-2.26.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5172)
 Backend data server for Evolution
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 2.26.2-1.fc11
- Update to 2.26.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 evolution-exchange-2.26.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5181)
 Evolution plugin to interact with MS Exchange Server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 2.26.2-1.fc11
- Update to 2.26.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnonlin-0.10.10.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5185)
 GStreamer extension library for non-linear editing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to prerelease of 0.10.11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 0.10.10.3-1
- Update to prerelease for 0.10.11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gtkhtml3-3.26.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5200)
 GtkHTML library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 3.26.2-1.fc11
- Update to 3.26.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 inkscape-0.47-0.9.20090518svn.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5173)
 Vector-based drawing program using SVG
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a post-beta snapshot of Inkscape 0.47.  It won't be pushed into stable
until 0.47 stable is released.    More in Inkscape 0.47 release schedule:
http://www.inkscape.org/#The_road_to_0.47:April_21,_2009    Please report non-
packaging bugs here:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape    Happy testing!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kmplayer-0.11.1a-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4871)
 A simple frontend for MPlayer/FFMpeg/Phonon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Merged generators from Maemo port  - Enable clear history  - Also a summary if
RSS has media tags  - Implement still missing tvscanner using it (FWIW)  -
Support SMIL region backgroundOpacity and media type mediaBackgroundOpacity  -
Save toolbar settings  - Don't set aspects for NPP  - Support
'fill="transition"` inside SMIL 'seq' tags  - Support more than one begin and
end triggers for SMIL elements  - Updated translations and information pages of
youtube and blip.tv generators fixes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget[DOT]fedora[AT]gmail[DOT]com> - 0.11.1a-1
- kmplayer-0.11.1a
* Mon May 11 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget[DOT]fedora[AT]gmail[DOT]com> - 0.11.1-1
- kmplayer-0.11.1
- drop upstreamed patches
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 monotone-0.44-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5217)
 A free, distributed version control system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.44. This is a maintenance release which fixes a couple of bugs and
regressions from 0.43 and earlier versions. See http://monotone.ca/NEWS for a
list of changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 0.44-1
- Update to 0.44.
* Sat Apr 25 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 0.43-2
- Rebuilt for new botan version.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oggvideotools-0.7a-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5196)
 Toolbox for manipulating Ogg video files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This increments to the latest version of the utility as well as takes care of
two bugs, on found, patched, and submitted upstream and the other an upstream
patch. Upstream has been nice enough to work with me on fielding bugs as well as
testing the end result but want to request testing purely for QA purposes. Quite
a few bugs noted by upstream were fixed.  Added oggResize, oggSlideshow, and
oggThumb. Quite a few bugs noted by upstream were fixed.  Added oggResize,
oggSlideshow, and oggThumb. Quite a few bugs noted by upstream were fixed.
Added oggResize.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Adam Miller <maxamillion [AT] gmail.com> - 0.7a-4
- Patch from upstream applied for segfault in oggStream due to big packets
* Fri May 15 2009 Adam Miller <maxamillion [AT] gmail.com> - 0.7a-3
- Patched a bug in oggSlideshow no showing help menu if no args passed
* Fri May 15 2009 Adam Miller <maxamillion [AT] gmail.com> - 0.7a-2
- Added gd-devel to requires as there was an issue with dependencies of:
	oggSlideshow, oggResize, and oggThumb
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 0.7a-1
- update to 0.7a
  dropped upstreamed cstring patch
  added oggResize
  bugfix for wrong size in oggThumb, which causes a green border
  minor bugfixes:
  - random number generator is always initialized with a random seed
  - command line options harmonized (e.g. -s is always size)
  handling for corrupt End-Of-Stream markers
  added sample scripts for easy creation of thumbnails and slideshows with sound
  dokumentation update
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Class-C3-Adopt-NEXT-0.10-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5197)
 Reduce one's dependency on NEXT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.10-1
- auto-update to 0.10 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- altered br on perl(Test::Exception) (0 => 0.27)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.08-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5211)
 Flexibly parse strings and turn them into DateTime objects
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.08-1
- auto-update to 0.08 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(DateTime::TimeZone) (version 0)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-DateTime-Format-HTTP-0.38-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5189)
 HTTP protocol date conversion routines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.38-2
- rearrange the files in doc as the tarball has changed contents
* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.38-1
- auto-update to 0.38 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Git-CPAN-Patch-0.1.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5208)
 Patch CPAN modules using Git
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.1.6-1
- auto-update to 0.1.6 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(Pod::Usage) (version 0)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTTP-Request-AsCGI-0.9-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5166)
 Setup a CGI enviroment from a HTTP::Request
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.9-1
- auto-update to 0.9 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(IO::File) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(URI::Escape) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(Carp) (version 0)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-POE-1.005-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5171)
 POE - portable multitasking and networking framework for Perl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.005-1
- auto-update to 1.005 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(Storable) (version 2.16)
- added a new br on perl(Errno) (version 1.09)
- added a new br on perl(IO::Handle) (version 1.27)
- added a new br on perl(Socket) (version 1.7)
- added a new br on perl(IO::Tty) (version 1.08)
- added a new br on perl(POE::Test::Loops) (version 1.004)
- added a new br on perl(POSIX) (version 1.02)
- added a new br on perl(File::Spec) (version 0.87)
- added a new br on perl(Exporter) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(Test::Harness) (version 2.26)
- added a new br on perl(Carp) (version 0)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Variable-Magic-0.34-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5184)
 Associate user-defined magic to variables from Perl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 16 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.34-1
- update to 0.34 (for B::Hooks::EndOfScope 0.08)
- filter private Perl .so's
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-XML-RSS-LibXML-0.3004-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5161)
 XML::RSS with XML::LibXML
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501098 - Review Request: perl-XML-RSS-LibXML - XML::RSS with XML::LibXML
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501098
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-local-lib-1.004000-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5159)
 Create and use a local lib/ for perl modules
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.004000-1
- auto-update to 1.004000 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- altered br on perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) (6.31 => 6.42)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qemu-0.10.4-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5174)
 QEMU is a FAST! processor emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update backports a feature known as "CPUID trimming" from upstream qemu-
kvm.    This means that KVM will no longer expose CPU features to the guest when
the host does not support these features. For example, this should fix problems
with booting guests on host machines which lack NX support.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Glauber Costa <glommer at redhat.com> - 2:0.10.4-5
- Backport cpuid trimming from upstream (#499596)
* Thu May 14 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 2:0.10.4-4
- Cherry pick more DMA AIO cancellation fixes from upstream (#497170)
* Wed May 13 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 2:0.10.4-3
- Fix mixup between kvm.modules and the init script (reported by Rich Jones)
* Wed May 13 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 2:0.10.4-2
- Fix -kernel bustage in upstream 0.10.4
* Tue May 12 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 2:0.10.4-1
- Update to 0.10.4
- Fix yet more qcow2 corruption (#498405)
- AIO cancellation fixes (#497170)
- Fix VPC image size overflow (#491981)
- Fix oops with 2.6.25 virtio guest (#470386)
- Enable pulseaudio driver (#495964, #496627)
- Fix cpuid initialization
- Fix HPET emulation
- Fix storage hotplug error handling
- Migration fixes
- Block range checking fixes
- Make PCI config status register read-only
- Handle newer Xorg keymap names
- Don't leak memory on NIC hot-unplug
- Hook up keypad keys for qemu console emulation
- Correctly run on kernels lacking mmu notifiers
- Support DDIM option ROMs
- Fix PCI NIC error handling
- Fix in-kernel LAPIC initialization
- Fix broken e1000 PCI config space
- Drop some patches which have been upstreamed
- Drop the make-release script; we have an official tarball now
* Tue May 12 2009 Glauber Costa <glommer at redhat.com> - 2:0.10-18
- move option rom setup function to the beginning of the file. This
  avoids static vs non-static issues, and is the way upstream does
* Tue May 12 2009 Glauber Costa <glommer at redhat.com> - 2:0.10-17
- fix reboot with -kernel parameter (#499666)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499596 - 32 bit KVM guest hangs enabling NX protection; booting with -cpu qemu32 works
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499596
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rpmrebuild-2.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5187)
 A tool to build rpm file from rpm database
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

in F11 it seems (at least) the live image doesn't come with rpm-build installed,
and rpmrebuild was assuming the package was installed. That's been fixed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Anderson Silva <ansilva at redhat.com> 2.3-3
- on F11 rpmrebuild requires rpm-build to be downloaded (live image at least)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sugar-calculator-30-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5169)
 Calculator for Sugar
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Add support for matplotlib as plotting backend  * Add support for complex plot
ranges, e.g. -2*pi..2*pi  * Fix superscript display bug
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Steven M. Parrish <tuxbrewr at fedoraproject.org> - 30-1
- Add support for matplotlib as plotting backend
- Add support for complex plot ranges, e.g. -2*pi..2*pi
- Fix superscript display bug
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 vgabios-0.6-0.6.c.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5180)
 LGPL implementation of a vga video bios
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Glauber Costa <glommer at redhat.com> - 0.6.0.6.c
- updated to 0.6.c (#499060)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499060 - vgabios regression - 1440x900 resolution no longer available
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499060
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xine-ui-0.99.5-11.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5192)
 A skinned xlib-based gui for xine-lib
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix minor packaging bug.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.1.0-7.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5209)
 Xorg X11 Synaptics touchpad input driver
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

An incorrect return value may lead the driver to think a mouse device is a
touchpad.This in turn resulted in both the mouse and the touchpad being
unusable. Only triggered if a synaptics device is specified in the xorg.conf.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.1.0-7
- Update synaptics-1.1.0-nograb-fail.patch: bad return value led to
  non-synaptics devices to be treated as synaptics devices (#499792)
* Mon May 18 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.1.0-6
- synaptics-1.1.0-synclient-accel-max.patch: update synclient's maximum
  value for AccelFactor to 1.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499792 - xorg.conf confiuration section for synaptics no longer used with xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.1.0-5
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499792
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yum-utils-1.1.22-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5195)
 Utilities based around the yum package manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- lot of bugfixes  - new show-leave plugin from Ville Skytt?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Tim Lauridsen <timlau at fedoraproject.org>
- decrease yum require to 3.2.22, because 3.2.22 in fedora is also 3.2.23
* Tue May 19 2009 Tim Lauridsen <timlau at fedoraproject.org>
- mark as 1.1.22
* Mon May 18 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org>
- add show-leaves plugin from Ville Skytt?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 20 00:57:52 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:57:52 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090520005752.C63E810F8FC@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    botan-1.8.2-1.fc10
    eric-4.3.3-1.fc10
    freeradius-2.1.6-1.fc10
    ifuse-0.9.1-3.fc10
    libiphone-0.9.1-2.fc10
    libplist-0.12-3.fc10
    monotone-0.44-1.fc10
    oggvideotools-0.7a-4.fc10
    perl-Class-C3-Adopt-NEXT-0.10-1.fc10
    perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.08-1.fc10
    perl-DateTime-Format-HTTP-0.38-2.fc10
    perl-Git-CPAN-Patch-0.1.6-1.fc10
    perl-HTTP-Request-AsCGI-0.9-1.fc10
    perl-Variable-Magic-0.34-1.fc10
    perl-XML-RSS-LibXML-0.3004-1.fc10
    perl-local-lib-1.004000-1.fc10
    rpm-4.6.1-1.fc10
    rrdtool-1.3.8-1.fc10
    xine-ui-0.99.5-11.fc10
    yum-utils-1.1.22-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 botan-1.8.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5224)
 Crypto library written in C++
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 1.8.2. See http://botan.randombit.net/news/releases/1_8_2.html for
changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Apr 25 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 1.8.2-1
- Update to 1.8.2.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 eric-4.3.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5218)
 Python IDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Johan Cwiklinski <johan AT x-tnd DOT be> 4.3.3-1
- 4.3.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 freeradius-2.1.6-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5219)
 High-performance and highly configurable free RADIUS server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

  - update to latest upstream release, from upstream Changelog:      Feature
improvements        * radclient exits with 0 on successful (accept / ack), and 1
otherwise (no response / reject)        * Added support for %%{sql:UPDATE ..},
and insert/delete          Patch from Arran Cudbard-Bell        * Added sample
"do not respond" policy.  See raddb/policy.conf          and raddb/sites-
available/do_not_respond        * Cleanups to Suse spec file from Norbert
Wegener        * New VSAs for Juniper from Bjorn Mork        * Include more RFC
dictionaries in the default install        * More documentation for the WiMAX
module        * Added "chase_referrals" and "rebind" configuration to rlm_ldap.
This helps with Active Directory.  See raddb/modules/ldap        * Don't load
pre/post-proxy if proxying is disabled.        * Added %%{md5:...}, which
returns MD5 hash in hex.        * Added configurable "retry_interval" and
"poll_interval"          for "detail" listeners.        * Added
"delete_mppe_keys" configuration option to rlm_wimax.          Apparently some
WiMAX clients misbehave when they see those keys.        * Added experimental
rlm_ruby from          http://github.com/Antti/freeradius-server/tree/master
* Add Tunnel attributes to ldap.attrmap        * Enable virtual servers to be
reloaded on HUP.  For now, only          the "authorize", "authenticate", etc.
processing sections are          reloaded.  Clients and "listen" sections are
NOT reloaded.        * Updated "radwatch" script to be more robust.  See
scripts/radwatch        * Added certificate compatibility notes in
raddb/certs/README,          for compatibility with different operating systems.
(i.e. Windows)        * Permit multiple "-e" in radmin.        * Add support for
originating CoA-Request and Disconnect-Request.          See raddb/sites-
available/originate-coa.        * Added "lifetime" and "max_queries" to
raddb/sql.conf.          This helps address the problem of hung SQL sockets.
* Allow packets to be injected via radmin.  See "inject help"          in
radmin.        * Answer VMPS reconfirmation request.  Patch from Hermann Lauer.
* Sample logrotate script in scripts/logrotate.freeradius        * Add
configurable poll interval for "detail" listeners        * New "raddebug"
command.  This prints debugging information from          a running server.  See
"man raddebug.        * Add "require_message_authenticator" configuration to
home_server          configuration.  This makes the server add Message-
Authenticator          to all outgoing Access-Request packets.        * Added
smsotp module, as contributed by Siemens.        * Enabled the administration
socket in the default install.          See raddb/sites-available/control-
socket, and "man radmin"        * Handle duplicate clients, such as with
replicated or          load-balanced SQL servers and "readclients = yes"
Bug fixes        * Minor changes to allow building without VQP.        * Minor
fixes from John Center        * Fixed raddebug example        * Don't crash when
deleting attributes via unlang        * Be friendlier to very fast clients
* Updated the "detail" listener so that it only polls once,          and not
many times in a row, leaking memory each time...        * Update comparison for
Packet-Src-IP-Address (etc.) so that          the operators other than '=='
work.        * Did autoconf magic to work around weird libtool bug        * Make
rlm_perl keep tags for tagged attributes in more situations        * Update UID
checking for radmin        * Added "include_length" field for TTLS.  It's needed
for RFC          compliance, but not (apparently) for interoperability.        *
Clean up control sockets when they are closed, so that we don't          leak
memory.        * Define SUN_LEN for systems that don't have it.        * Correct
some boundary conditions in the conditional checker ("if")          in "unlang".
Bug noted by Arran Cudbard-Bell.        * Work around minor building issues in
gmake.  This should only          have affected developers.        * Change how
we manage unprivileged user/group, so that we do not          create control
sockets owned by root.        * Fixed more minor issues found by Coverity.
* Allow raddb/certs/bootstrap to run when there is no "make"          command
installed.        * In radiusd.conf, run_dir depends on the name of the program,
and isn't hard-coded to "..../radiusd"        * Check for EOF in more places in
the "detail" file reader.        * Added Freeswitch dictionary.        * Chop
ethernet frames in VMPS, rather than droppping packets.        * Fix EAP-TLS
bug.  Patch from Arnaud Ebalard        * Don't lose string for regex-compares in
the "users" file.        * Expose more functions in rlm_sql to rlm_sqlippool,
which           helps on systems where RTLD_GLOBAL is off.        * Fix typos in
MySQL schemas for ippools.        * Remove macro that was causing build issues
on some platforms.        * Fixed issues with dead home servers.  Bug noted by
Chris Moules.        * Fixed "access after free" with some dynamic clients.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 John Dennis <jdennis at redhat.com> - 2.1.6-1
- update to latest upstream release, from upstream Changelog:
    Feature improvements
      * radclient exits with 0 on successful (accept / ack), and 1
        otherwise (no response / reject)
      * Added support for %{sql:UPDATE ..}, and insert/delete
        Patch from Arran Cudbard-Bell
      * Added sample "do not respond" policy.  See raddb/policy.conf
        and raddb/sites-available/do_not_respond
      * Cleanups to Suse spec file from Norbert Wegener
      * New VSAs for Juniper from Bjorn Mork
      * Include more RFC dictionaries in the default install
      * More documentation for the WiMAX module
      * Added "chase_referrals" and "rebind" configuration to rlm_ldap.
        This helps with Active Directory.  See raddb/modules/ldap
      * Don't load pre/post-proxy if proxying is disabled.
      * Added %{md5:...}, which returns MD5 hash in hex.
      * Added configurable "retry_interval" and "poll_interval"
        for "detail" listeners.
      * Added "delete_mppe_keys" configuration option to rlm_wimax.
        Apparently some WiMAX clients misbehave when they see those keys.
      * Added experimental rlm_ruby from
        http://github.com/Antti/freeradius-server/tree/master
      * Add Tunnel attributes to ldap.attrmap
      * Enable virtual servers to be reloaded on HUP.  For now, only
        the "authorize", "authenticate", etc. processing sections are
        reloaded.  Clients and "listen" sections are NOT reloaded.
      * Updated "radwatch" script to be more robust.  See scripts/radwatch
      * Added certificate compatibility notes in raddb/certs/README,
        for compatibility with different operating systems. (i.e. Windows)
      * Permit multiple "-e" in radmin.
      * Add support for originating CoA-Request and Disconnect-Request.
        See raddb/sites-available/originate-coa.
      * Added "lifetime" and "max_queries" to raddb/sql.conf.
        This helps address the problem of hung SQL sockets.
      * Allow packets to be injected via radmin.  See "inject help"
        in radmin.
      * Answer VMPS reconfirmation request.  Patch from Hermann Lauer.
      * Sample logrotate script in scripts/logrotate.freeradius
      * Add configurable poll interval for "detail" listeners
      * New "raddebug" command.  This prints debugging information from
        a running server.  See "man raddebug.
      * Add "require_message_authenticator" configuration to home_server
        configuration.  This makes the server add Message-Authenticator
        to all outgoing Access-Request packets.
      * Added smsotp module, as contributed by Siemens.
      * Enabled the administration socket in the default install.
        See raddb/sites-available/control-socket, and "man radmin"
      * Handle duplicate clients, such as with replicated or
        load-balanced SQL servers and "readclients = yes"

    Bug fixes
      * Minor changes to allow building without VQP.
      * Minor fixes from John Center
      * Fixed raddebug example
      * Don't crash when deleting attributes via unlang
      * Be friendlier to very fast clients
      * Updated the "detail" listener so that it only polls once,
        and not many times in a row, leaking memory each time...
      * Update comparison for Packet-Src-IP-Address (etc.) so that
        the operators other than '==' work.
      * Did autoconf magic to work around weird libtool bug
      * Make rlm_perl keep tags for tagged attributes in more situations
      * Update UID checking for radmin
      * Added "include_length" field for TTLS.  It's needed for RFC
        compliance, but not (apparently) for interoperability.
      * Clean up control sockets when they are closed, so that we don't
        leak memory.
      * Define SUN_LEN for systems that don't have it.
      * Correct some boundary conditions in the conditional checker ("if")
        in "unlang".  Bug noted by Arran Cudbard-Bell.
      * Work around minor building issues in gmake.  This should only
        have affected developers.
      * Change how we manage unprivileged user/group, so that we do not
        create control sockets owned by root.
      * Fixed more minor issues found by Coverity.
      * Allow raddb/certs/bootstrap to run when there is no "make"
        command installed.
      * In radiusd.conf, run_dir depends on the name of the program,
        and isn't hard-coded to "..../radiusd"
      * Check for EOF in more places in the "detail" file reader.
      * Added Freeswitch dictionary.
      * Chop ethernet frames in VMPS, rather than droppping packets.
      * Fix EAP-TLS bug.  Patch from Arnaud Ebalard
      * Don't lose string for regex-compares in the "users" file.
      * Expose more functions in rlm_sql to rlm_sqlippool, which 
        helps on systems where RTLD_GLOBAL is off.
      * Fix typos in MySQL schemas for ippools.
      * Remove macro that was causing build issues on some platforms.
      * Fixed issues with dead home servers.  Bug noted by Chris Moules.
      * Fixed "access after free" with some dynamic clients.

- fix packaging bug, some directories missing execute permission
  /etc/raddb/dictionary now readable by all.
* Tue Feb 24 2009 John Dennis <jdennis at redhat.com> - 2.1.3-4
- fix type usage in unixodbc to match new type usage in unixodbc API
* Thu Feb 19 2009 John Dennis <jdennis at redhat.com> - 2.1.3-3
- add pointer to Red Hat documentation in docdir
* Sat Jan 24 2009 Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 2.1.3-2
- rebuild for dependencies
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ifuse-0.9.1-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5204)
 Mount Apple iPhone and iPod touch devices
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.9.1-3
- Add a few more
* Mon May 18 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.9.1-2
- Add dep not pulled in by pkgconfig
* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.9.1-1
- Update to official 0.9.1 release
* Fri Apr  3 2009 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.1.0-8.20090401git5db1ccc
- Update to github version
* Fri Apr  3 2009 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.1.0-7.20090308git8d6eebb
- Update to latest master
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.0-6.20081214gitb0412bf
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libiphone-0.9.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5204)
 Library for connecting to Apple iPhone and iPod touch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.9.1-2
- Add new build reqs
* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.9.1-1
- Update to official 0.9.1 release
* Fri Apr  3 2009 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.1.0-11.20090325git443edc8
- Update to latest master version
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.0-10.20090103git5cde554
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libplist-0.12-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5204)
 Library for manipulating Apple Binary and XML Property Lists
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 monotone-0.44-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5203)
 A free, distributed version control system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.44. This is a maintenance release which fixes a couple of bugs and
regressions from 0.43 and earlier versions. See http://monotone.ca/NEWS for a
list of changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 0.44-1
- Update to 0.44.
* Sat Apr 25 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 0.43-2
- Rebuilt for new botan version.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oggvideotools-0.7a-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5212)
 Toolbox for manipulating Ogg video files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This increments to the latest version of the utility as well as takes care of
two bugs, on found, patched, and submitted upstream and the other an upstream
patch. Upstream has been nice enough to work with me on fielding bugs as well as
testing the end result but want to request testing purely for QA purposes. Quite
a few bugs noted by upstream were fixed.  Added oggResize, oggSlideshow, and
oggThumb. Quite a few bugs noted by upstream were fixed.  Added oggResize,
oggSlideshow, and oggThumb. Quite a few bugs noted by upstream were fixed.
Added oggResize.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Adam Miller <maxamillion [AT] gmail.com> - 0.7a-4
- Patch from upstream applied for segfault in oggStream due to big packets
* Fri May 15 2009 Adam Miller <maxamillion [AT] gmail.com> - 0.7a-3
- Patched a bug in oggSlideshow no showing help menu if no args passed
* Fri May 15 2009 Adam Miller <maxamillion [AT] gmail.com> - 0.7a-2
- Added gd-devel to requires as there was an issue with dependencies of:
	oggSlideshow, oggResize, and oggThumb
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 0.7a-1
- update to 0.7a
  dropped upstreamed cstring patch
  added oggResize
  bugfix for wrong size in oggThumb, which causes a green border
  minor bugfixes:
  - random number generator is always initialized with a random seed
  - command line options harmonized (e.g. -s is always size)
  handling for corrupt End-Of-Stream markers
  added sample scripts for easy creation of thumbnails and slideshows with sound
  dokumentation update
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.6-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Jan  9 2009 Matt Domsch <mdomsch at fedoraproject.org> - 0.6-1
- update to 0.6
  added oggSlideshow, oggThumb
  handling for huge files > 4GB implemented
  packet order with oggCut has been fixed and cleaned up
  ogg type in BOS packet is completely analysed
  added support for kate-streams (done by ogg.k.ogg.k)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Class-C3-Adopt-NEXT-0.10-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5201)
 Reduce one's dependency on NEXT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.10-1
- auto-update to 0.10 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- altered br on perl(Test::Exception) (0 => 0.27)
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.07-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.08-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5178)
 Flexibly parse strings and turn them into DateTime objects
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.08-1
- auto-update to 0.08 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(DateTime::TimeZone) (version 0)
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.05-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-DateTime-Format-HTTP-0.38-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5205)
 HTTP protocol date conversion routines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.38-2
- rearrange the files in doc as the tarball has changed contents
* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.38-1
- auto-update to 0.38 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.37-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Git-CPAN-Patch-0.1.6-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5206)
 Patch CPAN modules using Git
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.1.6-1
- auto-update to 0.1.6 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(Pod::Usage) (version 0)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTTP-Request-AsCGI-0.9-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5199)
 Setup a CGI enviroment from a HTTP::Request
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.9-1
- auto-update to 0.9 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(IO::File) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(URI::Escape) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(Carp) (version 0)
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.5-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.5-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Variable-Magic-0.34-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5176)
 Associate user-defined magic to variables from Perl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 16 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.34-1
- update to 0.34 (for B::Hooks::EndOfScope 0.08)
- filter private Perl .so's
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-XML-RSS-LibXML-0.3004-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5194)
 XML::RSS with XML::LibXML
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501098 - Review Request: perl-XML-RSS-LibXML - XML::RSS with XML::LibXML
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501098
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-local-lib-1.004000-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5179)
 Create and use a local lib/ for perl modules
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.004000-1
- auto-update to 1.004000 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- altered br on perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) (6.31 => 6.42)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rpm-4.6.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5214)
 The RPM package management system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

In addition to the bugs referred above, this update fixes several signature
checking/handling issues and other minor bugs. For further details see
http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.6.1.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Panu Matilainen <pmatilai at redhat.com> - 4.6.1-1
- update to rpm 4.6.1 (http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.6.1)
- fixes #487855, #493157 and several others already fixed in F11/rawhide
- drop patches merged upstream
- eliminate bogus leftover rpm:rpm rpmdb ownership
* Thu Apr  2 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 4.6.0-4
- actually apply niagara patch
* Thu Apr  2 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 4.6.0-3
- Fix sparcv9v and sparc64v targets
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #487855 - Specfile query outputs error messages for "missing" patches
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487855
  [ 2 ] Bug #493157 - rpmbuild allows names and versions/releases like: ../../../
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493157
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rrdtool-1.3.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5155)
 Round Robin Database Tool to store and display time-series data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream maintenance release, see http://n2.nabble.com/rrdtool-1.3.8---fixes-
for-solaris-and-rrd_restore-td2939680ef937164.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 1.3.8-1
- Update to rrdtool 1.3.8
* Thu Apr  9 2009 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 1.3.7-1
- Update to rrdtool 1.3.7
* Mon Jan 19 2009 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 1.3.6-1
- Update to rrdtool 1.3.6
* Tue Dec 16 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 1.3.5-1
- Update to rrdtool 1.3.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xine-ui-0.99.5-11.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5168)
 A skinned xlib-based gui for xine-lib
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix minor packaging bug.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yum-utils-1.1.22-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5207)
 Utilities based around the yum package manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- lot of bugfixes  - new show-leave plugin from Ville Skytt?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Tim Lauridsen <timlau at fedoraproject.org>
- decrease yum require to 3.2.22, because 3.2.22 in fedora is also 3.2.23
* Tue May 19 2009 Tim Lauridsen <timlau at fedoraproject.org>
- mark as 1.1.22
* Mon May 18 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org>
- add show-leaves plugin from Ville Skytt?
* Wed Mar 25 2009 Tim Lauridsen <timlau at fedoraproject.org>
- mark as 1.1.21
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Tim Lauridsen <timlau at fedoraproject.org>
- set yum require to 3.2.21 (the 3.2.21 in rawhide is patched to yum head, so it matches the need yum 3.2.22 code)
- Added versioned Provides: yum-<pluginname> to make rpm/yum happy.
- yum-updateonboot is not renamed and dont need Obsoletes/Conflicts/Provides
* Sun Mar  1 2009 Tim Lauridsen <timlau at fedoraproject.org>
- mark as 1.1.20
- rename plugins from yum-name to yum-plugin-name
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Tim Lauridsen <timlau at fedoraproject.org> 
- Remove yum-kernel-module & yum-fedorakmod plugins (no obsoleting yet)
- Remove yum-skip-broken plugin leftovers
* Tue Feb  3 2009 James Antill <james at fedoraproject.org>
- add auto-update-debuginfo plugin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed May 20 01:19:04 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:19:04 -0400
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <1242780494.8848.33.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090519203646.47d04467@zooty>
	<1242780494.8848.33.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20090519211904.1ca80882@zooty>

On Tue, 19 May 2009 17:48:14 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:

> ...and anyone who ever, say, prints anything.

Printing has absolutely nothing to do with viewing display
devices. Precise dimensions are important on printed media
for filling out forms, getting inside label boundaries, etc.
None of those reason apply to display devices. What you do
want on a display device is to see the same proportions
to know how it will look when you print it, but same proportions
are nothing at all like same absolute size.

> Ironically, that's exactly what resolution independence is intended to
> achieve.

Not the way you define it. A 9 point font is perfectly readable on
a piece of paper I'm holding in my hand. On a 1920x1080 42" HD
monitor, lower case characters rendered in a 9 point font have
about 4 pixels available to render the character. It does me
absolutely no good to have the size be "correct". All I get
are little indistinguishable blobs.

Lying about the DPI scales everything up so that the image
of the characters on the screen has just about the same angular
diameter from my viewing location as the printed characters
on the page in my hand.

Unless I'm trying to read a secret message revealed by laying
a piece of tracing paper on the screen to complete an image
partially printed on the paper, I can't imagine any use for
forcing screen DPI to be physically "correct".



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Wed May 20 01:26:34 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:26:34 -0600
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1242782794.3601.68.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:06 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:40 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 21:38 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > > > On one system I have, F11 gdm was automatically set to 120DPI, which
> > > > looked absolutely hideous at 1440X900 resolution. On another system, it
> > > > set itself automatically to 94DPI, which looked better, but not ideal.
> > > > I'd really like the default on both to be 96DPI (or perhaps 100DPI).
> > > 
> > > It defaults to the actual correct DPI value for your screen (monitor),
> > > unless your screen is broken and reports a nonsense DPI.
> > 
> > ...Umm, no.
> > 
> > My TP T400 laptop defaulted to 120DPI, and my desktop at home with a
> > GeForce Series nVidia chipset and a 24" Acer LCD panel defaulted to
> > 94DPI.
> > 
> > Neither one of these was "optimal". At 120DPI (1440x900 native
> > resolution), the T400 display looks absolutely crummy. Changing it to
> > 96DPI made it crystal clear and sharp. Doing the same on my LCD panel on
> > my desktop had exactly the same effect, albeit less so since it was
> > pretty close already.
> > 
> > In every case where I have had the opportunity to load F10 and F11 (many
> > different systems / hardware combinations), I have yet to see a
> > "correct", as you put it, DPI set up as a default. It's not possible
> > that all of those systems' displays were, again as you put it, broken.
> > In fact, none of them were.
> 
> It sounds like you're not really following the concept of DPI. I'm not
> sure how you could possibly see different DPI settings as "sharp" or
> "not sharp", that just isn't the effect of changing DPI at all. All it
> does is cause characters to be rendered larger (high DPI) or smaller
> (low DPI).

Actually I do understand this quite well.

> > Regardless of all of that, there should always be a way to tell X what
> > DPI you want anyway. Who said the manufacturer's "correct" setting is
> > the best for you, and that's assuming they use a standard way of
> > specifying that? 
> 
> OK, clearly you don't understand the concept.
> 
> There's no such thing as a DPI that's 'best for you'. DPI means dots per
> inch. The correct DPI is a pure mathematical calculation based on the
> size of the display and the resolution in use. There is no room for
> subjectivity.

I could go on for a while here. I understand the concept of DPI a lot
better than you attribute to me.

> The objective of setting the correct DPI is so that fonts will be
> rendered at the correct size. There is an absolute, standard definition
> of exactly how big - in real, physical units, not pixels - a twelve
> point letter A should be, for instance. When you set your display to the
> correct DPI, a 12 point letter A will be displayed at exactly the right
> size in actual physical terms (inches, centimetres, whatever it says on
> your ruler).

Technically correct, but utterly useless from a practical perspective.

> If everyone set their DPI correctly (and all applications and desktops
> rendered fonts, and physical size-specified graphical items, correctly),
> then - no matter what particular display you happened to be looking at
> things on - they'd always look the same size, and that would be the size
> the creator intended.

But that's the problem, isn't it. This doesn't work unless _everyone_ in
the chain, from the developer through the manufacturer, sets this
properly, and in the case of manufacturers, builds their equipment to
support it. That simply doesn't happen in the real world, does it.

...And you conveniently omitted the issue about projector displays. How
does your algorithm set the "correct" DPI when the screen size changes
based on the distance from the projector to the screen, which is always
random and can't be detected? Oh, and that distance is always different
every time a portable projector is used. And, assuming it was possible
to account for the distance in setting that "correct" DPI, do you really
expect people to read that "correct"-ly calculated and displayed DPI
from 30 feet away or more?

> There's several technical obstacles to this goal, which is why GNOME
> recently decided to forget about trying to respect this concept
> ('resolution independence') and just override everyone's DPI setting to
> 96. This is a regrettable but fairly sensible decision. However, if you
> don't understand the theory here, you're never going to get what's going
> on exactly right.

Except that I _do_ understand the theory here - and very well. And the
above points to the crux of my argument. As a practical matter, going
this "correctly calculated DPI" route was an utterly stupid decision to
begin with. If the above is true (I really hope it is), perhaps the
GNOME developer community has at least partially come to their senses.
Defaulting to 96 DPI, _and_ still letting you set X to something
different if you wanted to, would count as credit for coming completely
to their senses. The only regrettable part of it really is that it's
taken this long for GNOME to figure this out. Trying to do things the
way they did initially is a clear demonstration of the difference
between "smart" and "wise". That's why so many people have basically
been asking the question, "How could people who are so smart do
something so stupid?"

> > Clearly different manufacturers do this differently. 
> 
> Manufacturers do not specify the correct DPI, nor do they 'do it
> differently'. Display panels provide their physical size via their EDID
> information. X uses this information combined with its knowledge of what
> resolution is in use to calculate the correct DPI. Some displays provide
> their size in stupidly boneheaded ways, but most of these special cases
> have been caught by now, and the values that were calculated for your
> displays both sound like they were correct, to me. If you're not
> confident in your monitor manufacturer, it's fairly trivial to figure
> out the correct DPI setting for your monitor with nothing but a ruler.
> Measure the display in inches horizontally, and divide the result into
> the horizontal resolution in pixels. That's the correct DPI setting for
> the display.

Correct DPI? Again maybe from a technical perspective, but NOT from a
practical one, let alone what the manufacturer likely intended for that
display. Even if it worked (and we have demonstrated this is not
consistently the case), what is displayed is "correct" only in that you
can use a ruler to measure the height of the characters, even if it
means you have to interpolate between pixels on an LCD display and make
everything look like smudged crap in the process. It also smacks of that
the developers of GNOME have arrogantly decided they know more about how
to make every manufacturer's display work "correctly" than the
manufacturers do, let alone the person who is using that display.

And manufacturers do "do it" differently because, as you have already
stated yourself, each is capable - and often does - report display sizes
differently, sometimes far differently from what the actual display size
is. They do it for their own purposes, but they do it.

I would also challenge your submission that most exceptions have been
caught. New models of displays, with different ways of reporting EDID
information, are coming out all the time. You can't possibly argue that
you've caught these exceptions too, unless you're arguing that GNOME is
somehow clairvoyant.

Besides, using a ruler to measure the accuracy of the height of the
characters isn't the standard most people use to measure the quality of
their display (which is really what I originally meant by "correct for
the user"), is it...

> > As
> > such there is no standard per se.
> 
> Yes, there is.

There may be a _technical_ standard, but its applicability to, and use
in, the real world is such that it's not really followed. Reference your
"bone-headed" comment about display sizes, among others. Thus, there is,
by de-facto, no standard.

--
====================================================
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is."

--Yogi Berra





From mrmazda at ij.net  Wed May 20 01:35:27 2009
From: mrmazda at ij.net (Felix Miata)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:35:27 -0400
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A135E5F.2090802@ij.net>

On 2009/05/19 16:40 (GMT-0600) Christopher A. Williams composed:

> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 21:38 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:

>> Christopher A. Williams wrote:

>> > On one system I have, F11 gdm was automatically set to 120DPI, which
>> > looked absolutely hideous at 1440X900 resolution. On another system, it
>> > set itself automatically to 94DPI, which looked better, but not ideal.
>> > I'd really like the default on both to be 96DPI (or perhaps 100DPI).

>> It defaults to the actual correct DPI value for your screen (monitor),
>> unless your screen is broken and reports a nonsense DPI.

> ...Umm, no.

Umm, sorta. s/actual correct DPI/accurate DPI/ and he's absolutely right.
OTOH, "correct DPI" really is open to interpretation, because the
consequences of _not_ assuming, and applying, the "standard" 96 can be rather
miserable.

> My TP T400 laptop defaulted to 120DPI, and my desktop at home with a
> GeForce Series nVidia chipset and a 24" Acer LCD panel defaulted to
> 94DPI.

> Neither one of these was "optimal". At 120DPI (1440x900 native
> resolution), the T400 display looks absolutely crummy. Changing it to
> 96DPI made it crystal clear and sharp. Doing the same on my LCD panel on
> my desktop had exactly the same effect, albeit less so since it was
> pretty close already.

What do you mean by "looks"? Ugly fonts? Other manifestations of ugly, like
text that doesn't fit right in the alloted window or field space, or icons
disproportionately sized compared to accompanying text?

The problem is resolution independence is needed, but not available yet.
Achieving resolution independence is no small task, but forcing 96 on
everyone without their consent will serve to make the achievement more
difficult in several ways. Among them, fewer complaints mean less motivation
to do the work.

The numbers of really high DPI displays in actual use hasn't reached critical
mass yet. The developers who would do the work need to have this equipment in
order to facilitate doing it, so it's a bit of a chicken/egg problem.

In other ways it's just a matter of developers breaking old habits, not the
least of which is sizing objects without using px to specify any of those
object sizes.

> Regardless of all of that, there should always be a way to tell X what
> DPI you want anyway....you should be able
> to modify this to taste with a reasonable level of safety.

As long as resolution independence is not yet fully implemented, absolutely!
It used to be that you could, but currently, whether you can at all, and how
you do it, often depends on the chip and driver your gfxcard uses, in
addition to the subversion of the version of particular Xorg components. It's
a mess. :-(

> Who said the manufacturer's "correct" setting is
> the best for you, and that's assuming they use a standard way of
> specifying that? Clearly different manufacturers do this differently. As
> such there is no standard per se.

Again, try not to confuse discussion of accurate DPI with "correct" DPI. The
former is unequivocal, the latter, anything but.
-- 
"A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man
keeps himself under control."	Proverbs 29:11 NIV

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/



From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed May 20 01:38:14 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:38:14 -0400
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <1242782794.3601.68.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1242782794.3601.68.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090519213814.5ec51def@zooty>

On Tue, 19 May 2009 19:26:34 -0600
Christopher A. Williams wrote:

> Defaulting to 96 DPI, _and_ still letting you set X to something
> different if you wanted to, would count as credit for coming completely
> to their senses. The only regrettable part of it really is that it's
> taken this long for GNOME to figure this out.

Actually, I don't think it should have anything to do with gnome. It
should be in X where it would work for all toolkits across the
board, and allow you to establish different DPI values for
different monitors in a multi-monitor setup.

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20545

I'm seriously considering starting work on the EDID filter for
X I proposed in there. It would be great for making X pretend
it had EDID info even when the monitor isn't online when you
bring up X (talking to another system on you KVM switch perhaps).

Probably never be accepted though - everyone seems to hate
allowing users to control any aspect of their systems :-).



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 20 01:54:28 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:54:28 -0700
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <1242782794.3601.68.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1242782794.3601.68.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242784468.8848.48.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 19:26 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:

> > It sounds like you're not really following the concept of DPI. I'm not
> > sure how you could possibly see different DPI settings as "sharp" or
> > "not sharp", that just isn't the effect of changing DPI at all. All it
> > does is cause characters to be rendered larger (high DPI) or smaller
> > (low DPI).
> 
> Actually I do understand this quite well.
> 
> > > Regardless of all of that, there should always be a way to tell X what
> > > DPI you want anyway. Who said the manufacturer's "correct" setting is
> > > the best for you, and that's assuming they use a standard way of
> > > specifying that? 
> > 
> > OK, clearly you don't understand the concept.
> > 
> > There's no such thing as a DPI that's 'best for you'. DPI means dots per
> > inch. The correct DPI is a pure mathematical calculation based on the
> > size of the display and the resolution in use. There is no room for
> > subjectivity.
> 
> I could go on for a while here. I understand the concept of DPI a lot
> better than you attribute to me.

Fair enough. If you do, that's fine I have nothing to add. However, the
way your message was written didn't seem to imply a good understanding
of the issue.

There are clearly problems with the current practical implementation of
resolution independence, and the cited use cases (long viewing distances
etc) are some of them. That's (partly) why we don't have it already thus
making everyone super happy.

To answer the practical issues raised -as Felix said, it's certainly
possible to configure the DPI at the X server level, but (again as he
said) the way to do this varies depending on the driver in use,
unfortunately. You used to be able to do it fairly definitively for any
driver using /etc/X11/Xresources (there's an Xft.dpi setting in that
file which is supposed to override the X server's DPI value), but this
doesn't appear to work consistently any more, unfortunately. I think a
bug report requesting a consistent place to override the automatically
calculated (or just arbitrarily chosen) DPI setting for X would
certainly be valid.

When GNOME's not defaulting to 96 dpi, it automatically inherits X's
setting, but if you override it via GNOME's font configuration dialog,
it sets it in a private way and the changed setting applies only to GTK+
apps. I think KDE is the same way. It might be nice if this were all
co-ordinated between X, GNOME and KDE so that you can choose a manual
setting either directly in some config file, or the GNOME / KDE apps
would just poke that config file. Then it'd be nice and consistent.

But in the long run the issue isn't just going to go away, and
arbitrarily defaulting to 96dpi on all displays isn't the answer. It's
horrible for very high-resolution displays, which are already fairly
easily available and will only become more so.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From reidr at pobox.com  Wed May 20 01:55:32 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:55:32 -0600
Subject: Different problem with preupgrade
Message-ID: <13142890905191855q4e6b3b5fiac0a9439d6605a9f@mail.gmail.com>

preupgrade appeared to run successfully for me earlier today.  I
eventually rebooted the machine, and it seemed to go through
normal-looking anaconda things.  After a brief time, I got to a screen
where I wasn't able to scroll back more than a few lines, and the
install had died.  The final message was that I could safely reboot
(and thankfully, I could go back to a working F10 kernel).  I wrote
down a few of the last lines, since I can't find a log:

File "/usr/lib/anaconda/storage/devicetree.py", line 1108, in addUdevDiskDevice
if device.partedDisk.type == "mac" and len(device.partedDisk.partitions) == 1
AttributeError: 'NameType' object has no attribute 'type'
install exited abornmally [1/1]

Formatting is probably a bit off there.  There was more to the
backtrace, but I hope that's enough to point someone in the right
direction.  Again, I have a x86_64 (not mac!), trying to preupgrade
from an updated F10 to F11/Rawhide.  Let me know if any additional
info would be helpful.  Thanks!

-- 
Reid

Fran Lebowitz  - "If you're going to America, bring your own food." -
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/f/fran_lebowitz.html



From lsatenstein at yahoo.com  Wed May 20 02:09:34 2009
From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:09:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: flash in Fedora 11 working,,  Thanks to Christopher A. Williams
Message-ID: <844111.64471.qm@web110714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>



p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }

On Tuesday 19 May 2009 14:56:53 Christopher A. Williams wrote some instructions:

 
 
> Here's how I did it:
>
> 1) Download the latest 64-bit flash plugin from:
> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
>
> Note that this is still in RC status...
>
> 2) Unpack the .tar.gz file and place a copy of the .so file in:
> /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins (do this as root)
>
> 3) As root, run the command:
> mozilla-plugin-config -i -g -v
>
> You're finished!
>
> Flash should then show up in Firefox about:plugins
>
> Works like a champ on all of my 64-bit F11 systems.
And on my system too.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris

The following worked for me with the fedora11 beta (which is oozing into being non-beta)

1) I downloaded the flash and extracted it to my desktop. (I wanted to keep a copy)
2)  I sudo'ed su   (to root)
3)  I switched to my Desktop
4)  cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
5)   mozilla-plugin-config -i -g -v
------------------

Regards  
Mr. Leslie
 Leslie Satenstein

voice:? 514-369-1685? ? 
mailto:lsatenstein at yahoo.com 
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090519/907b52e2/attachment.htm>

From dgboles at comcast.net  Wed May 20 02:47:47 2009
From: dgboles at comcast.net (David)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:47:47 -0400
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1242779218.3029.39.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1347BC.6030901@comcast.net>
	<1242779218.3029.39.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A136F53.3010906@comcast.net>

On 5/19/2009 8:26 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 19:58 -0400, David wrote:
>> What does this do to the 'restart' of Rawhide please?
> 
> The restart of rawhide will happen when we're done with Fedora 11
> development.


Thank you.


-- 


  David



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed May 20 04:42:28 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:42:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1242778039.8848.11.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>
	<20090519165127.GM2271@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242768957.5008.8.camel@adam.local.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191741550.11305@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A133F98.7010805@hi.is> <1242778039.8848.11.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905200041460.16620@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 19 May 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 23:24 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> > On 05/19/2009 09:44 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > >   for the display, mine's set for 30 minutes but it's *absolutely* not
> > > a function of that time value since, as others have mentioned, the
> > > screen can go black totally arbitrarily, like when i'm literally in
> > > the middle of typing something.  can i assume that's pretty much
> > > what's happening to some of the others who have confirmed this?
> > >
> > Yup
> >
> > 30 minutes here same symptom
>
> Can you guys set it to 'never' and see if the behaviour changes?

  ok, that's just the "display" setting under System -> Preferences ->
Power Management,  right?

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================

From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 20 05:09:10 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:09:10 -0700
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905200041460.16620@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>
	<20090519165127.GM2271@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242768957.5008.8.camel@adam.local.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191741550.11305@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A133F98.7010805@hi.is> <1242778039.8848.11.camel@adam.local.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905200041460.16620@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242796150.8848.57.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 00:42 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Tue, 19 May 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 23:24 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> > > On 05/19/2009 09:44 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > > >   for the display, mine's set for 30 minutes but it's *absolutely* not
> > > > a function of that time value since, as others have mentioned, the
> > > > screen can go black totally arbitrarily, like when i'm literally in
> > > > the middle of typing something.  can i assume that's pretty much
> > > > what's happening to some of the others who have confirmed this?
> > > >
> > > Yup
> > >
> > > 30 minutes here same symptom
> >
> > Can you guys set it to 'never' and see if the behaviour changes?
> 
>   ok, that's just the "display" setting under System -> Preferences ->
> Power Management,  right?

Yup.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From adrin.jalali at gmail.com  Wed May 20 06:04:12 2009
From: adrin.jalali at gmail.com (Adrin Jalali)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:34:12 +0430
Subject: repo issue
In-Reply-To: <guv2ec$t1r$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <8049a2b40905120148k772cc5aeg24d83c35b32edd98@mail.gmail.com> 
	<guv2ec$t1r$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <8049a2b40905192304r58afa902h2adf25381e79f305@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>wrote:

>
> Updates should be enabled in fedora-release-11-1. Check your .repo files
> in /etc/yum.repos.d/ for .rpmnew files sitting around.
>
>        Kevin Kofler
>

Already checked and fixed ;)
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090520/2300fd7d/attachment.htm>

From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 20 06:11:15 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 11:41:15 +0530
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
Message-ID: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>

Hi

If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
it crashes.

Rahul



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed May 20 06:10:19 2009
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:10:19 +0200
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0905192310id88424cved7eaf8e426abe54@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/20 Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org>:
> Hi
>
> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
> it crashes.
>
> Rahul
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
Yes....it crashes.


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag
SIP: antoniomontag at ekiga.net



From rc040203 at freenet.de  Wed May 20 06:18:09 2009
From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:18:09 +0200
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4A13A0A1.90309@freenet.de>

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
> 
> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
> it crashes.

Yes, it does.




From kashyapc at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 20 06:36:52 2009
From: kashyapc at fedoraproject.org (kashyap)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:06:52 +0530
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <7bbaf0950905192336h52c4df5fkdb68c4609a9c3930@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org
> wrote:

> Hi
>
> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
> it crashes.


yes, it crashes with a seg fault.

bug filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501643

--kashyap

>
>
> Rahul
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090520/688547e7/attachment.htm>

From king_rero at yahoo.co.uk  Wed May 20 07:00:35 2009
From: king_rero at yahoo.co.uk (omar naas)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 07:00:35 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <4A13A0A1.90309@freenet.de>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org> <4A13A0A1.90309@freenet.de>
Message-ID: <650474.99482.qm@web27907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>



Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc10 Firefox/3.0.10 is tuning well no crashes here n_n


________________________________
From: Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 at freenet.de>
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009 8:18:09
Subject: Re: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
> 
> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
> it crashes.

Yes, it does.


-- fedora-test-list mailing list
fedora-test-list at redhat.com
To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090520/5f9c711b/attachment.htm>

From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Wed May 20 07:10:07 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh Sreekantan)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:40:07 +0530
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4A13ACCF.6030400@gmail.com>

On 05/20/2009 11:41 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
> http://planet.fedoraproject.org  and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
> it crashes.

For me it doesn't crash. On my 256kbps connection, the page takes quite 
a while to load completely so I am not sure if I am *quick* enough.

--Gireesh Sreekantan



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Wed May 20 07:43:02 2009
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:43:02 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905200942060.9132@sandbox.cz>

On Wed, 20 May 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> Hi
>
> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
> it crashes.

Yes it does. I even did not need to scroll, just switched the tab in while 
page was loading.

>
> Rahul
>

Adam Pribyl



From paul-fedora at saturnine.org.uk  Wed May 20 07:49:46 2009
From: paul-fedora at saturnine.org.uk (Paul Black)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:49:46 +0100
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <650474.99482.qm@web27907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org> <4A13A0A1.90309@freenet.de> 
	<650474.99482.qm@web27907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a9274eb10905200049q120f9578o70d1c48fcb9c252a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/20 omar naas
>
> Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc10 Firefox/3.0.10 is tuning well no crashes here n_n

FWIW, it crashes here on F10 using a Firefox 3.5 nightly from Mozilla.

--
Paul



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Wed May 20 07:53:32 2009
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:53:32 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Preupgrade problem
In-Reply-To: <1242759940.17097.15.camel@metroid>
References: <13142890905182139l5ca7178nbd01602874928d3e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242759940.17097.15.camel@metroid>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905200950370.9132@sandbox.cz>

On Tue, 19 May 2009, Will Woods wrote:

> Try upgrading createrepo (and preupgrade!) and try it again. You should
> also update your system and run 'package-cleanup --problems' to make
> sure your system has the right packages. The old preupgrade (1.0.x)
> didn't install updates etc. so it sometimes fails to upgrade packages
> that need upgrading.

Does this mean, this new preupgrade is uprading the system to latest 
updates? Just carefully asking, because I was exited by this possibility 
already at preupgrade launch, but was bit disapointed, it was not the 
case.

>
> -w
>

Adam Pribyl



From king_rero at yahoo.co.uk  Wed May 20 07:55:04 2009
From: king_rero at yahoo.co.uk (omar naas)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 07:55:04 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <a9274eb10905200049q120f9578o70d1c48fcb9c252a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org> <4A13A0A1.90309@freenet.de>
	<650474.99482.qm@web27907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<a9274eb10905200049q120f9578o70d1c48fcb9c252a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <290258.47205.qm@web27908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

I think it'd be better f everyone mention about the FF version




________________________________
From: Paul Black <paul-fedora at saturnine.org.uk>
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009 9:49:46
Subject: Re: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora

2009/5/20 omar naas
>
> Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc10 Firefox/3.0.10 is tuning well no crashes here n_n

FWIW, it crashes here on F10 using a Firefox 3.5 nightly from Mozilla.

--
Paul

-- 
fedora-test-list mailing list
fedora-test-list at redhat.com
To unsubscribe: 
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090520/9982b074/attachment.htm>

From johannbg at hi.is  Wed May 20 08:40:40 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:40:40 +0000
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4A13C208.6020503@hi.is>

On 05/20/2009 06:11 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
> it crashes.
>
> Rahul
>
>   
Works fine for me :)

firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64

-- 
Viking-Ice 

One of my gods has a hammer your's was nailed to a cross
You do the math!



From arxs at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 20 08:50:52 2009
From: arxs at fedoraproject.org (Niels Haase)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:50:52 +0200
Subject: Installation of presto with huge dependencies
Message-ID: <571dcba60905200150l69b8e083t7addbc3f3409435e@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

fresh Installation from F11 ?Preview Release" with rawhide repo enable
during installation. After first boot try to install presto. I assume
this is a bug, that presto has this dependencies, at least one with
163 M!


yum install presto
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package presto.x86_64 0:0.1.3-6.fc11 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: allegro for package: presto-0.1.3-6.fc11.x86_64
--> Running transaction check
---> Package allegro.x86_64 0:4.2.2-12.fc11 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: timidity++-patches for package:
allegro-4.2.2-12.fc11.x86_64
--> Running transaction check
---> Package fluid-soundfont-lite-patches.noarch 0:3.1-3.fc11 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: fluid-soundfont-common = 3.1-3.fc11 for
package: fluid-soundfont-lite-patches-3.1-3.fc11.noarch
--> Running transaction check
---> Package fluid-soundfont-common.noarch 0:3.1-3.fc11 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

================================================================================
 Package                          Arch       Version           Repository  Size
================================================================================
Installing:
 presto                           x86_64     0.1.3-6.fc11      fedora      35 k
Installing for dependencies:
 allegro                          x86_64     4.2.2-12.fc11     fedora     734 k
 fluid-soundfont-common           noarch     3.1-3.fc11        fedora      82 k
 fluid-soundfont-lite-patches     noarch     3.1-3.fc11        fedora     163 M

Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install      4 Package(s)
Update       0 Package(s)
Remove       0 Package(s)

Total download size: 164 M
Is this ok [y/N]:

--
Regards
Niels



From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Wed May 20 09:31:04 2009
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 11:31:04 +0200
Subject: Installation of presto with huge dependencies
In-Reply-To: <571dcba60905200150l69b8e083t7addbc3f3409435e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <571dcba60905200150l69b8e083t7addbc3f3409435e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242811864.2449.4.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 10:50 +0200, Niels Haase wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> fresh Installation from F11 ?Preview Release" with rawhide repo enable
> during installation. After first boot try to install presto. I assume
> this is a bug, that presto has this dependencies, at least one with
> 163 M!
> 
> 
> yum install presto
<snip>
> Dependencies Resolved
> 
> ================================================================================
>  Package                          Arch       Version           Repository  Size
> ================================================================================
> Installing:
>  presto                           x86_64     0.1.3-6.fc11      fedora      35 k
> Installing for dependencies:
>  allegro                          x86_64     4.2.2-12.fc11     fedora     734 k
>  fluid-soundfont-common           noarch     3.1-3.fc11        fedora      82 k
>  fluid-soundfont-lite-patches     noarch     3.1-3.fc11        fedora     163 M
<snip>

You probably want to install yum-presto.

presto is:
$ yum info presto
Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, presto, refresh-packagekit
Available Packages
Name       : presto
Arch       : i586
Version    : 0.1.3
Release    : 6.fc11
Size       : 35 k
Repo       : fedora
Summary    : A tilemap engine using the Allegro game programming library
URL        :
http://www.hypersonicsoft.org/projects/showproject.php?id=29
License    : GPLv3+
Description: Presto is a general-use tilemap engine coded in C that uses
           : Allegro for graphics rendering, and therefore is intended
           : for use in games using Allegro. It can handle rectangular
           : tiles of any height and width (and different height from
           : width), loading tilemaps from files, tile blending, and the
           : capability to change most of these elements on the fly.


Martin
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090520/c5a5b16b/attachment.sig>

From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Wed May 20 09:40:33 2009
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 11:40:33 +0200
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1242812433.2449.6.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:41 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
> 
> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
> it crashes.
> 
> Rahul
> 
Not reproducible on any of these:

xulrunner-1.9.1-0.20.beta4.fc11.i586
webkitgtk-1.1.7-0.1.fc11.i586 (self-built)
firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.i586
epiphany-2.26.1-2.fc11.i586
midori-0.1.6-2.fc11.i586

Martin
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090520/3d682149/attachment.sig>

From arxs at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 20 09:45:24 2009
From: arxs at fedoraproject.org (Niels Haase)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 11:45:24 +0200
Subject: Installation of presto with huge dependencies
In-Reply-To: <1242811864.2449.4.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>
References: <571dcba60905200150l69b8e083t7addbc3f3409435e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242811864.2449.4.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>
Message-ID: <571dcba60905200245v65d477basd578a49a38ad72ea@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/20 Martin Sourada <martin.sourada at gmail.com>:

> You probably want to install yum-presto.

Well, that's explained it at all. Thanks for pointing that out.

> Martin
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

--
mfg
Niels



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed May 20 12:17:18 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 05:17:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
Message-ID: <844462.59271.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 at freenet.de> wrote:

> From: Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 at freenet.de>
> Subject: Re: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 11:18 PM
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
> > http://planet.fedoraproject.org and
> scroll down quickly. Let me know if
> > it crashes.
> 
> Yes, it does.
> 
> 
> -- fedora-test-list mailing list

Over here it doesn't.  Might have been fixed?  or firefox prob?


Regards,

Antonio 


      



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May 20 13:05:04 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:05:04 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-20 - Fedora QA Meeting Agenda
Message-ID: <1242824704.2739.72.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

Fedora QA Meeting
Date: 2009-05-20
Time: 16:00 UTC (12 EDT)
Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 

        1. Previous meeting follow-up ...
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090513
                
        2. Autoqa status update - http://autoqa.fedorahosted.org
                
        3. F-11-GA slip -
        https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-May/msg00012.html
                
        4. F-11 Common Bugs - bring out your bugs!
        
        5. <Your topic here>
        
Hope to see you there :)

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090520/409d88b0/attachment.sig>

From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 20 13:18:12 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:18:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090520 changes
Message-ID: <20090520131812.1F0001B8003@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Wed May 20 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

anaconda-11.5.0.54-1.fc11
-------------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> - 11.5.0.54-1
- We are not guaranteed to have a partedDisk in the udev code (#501556,
  - The location of the options wiki page has changed. (clumens)
- Disable BETANAG. (clumens)
- Install a en_US.UTF-8 locale in the first stage image. (notting)
- Reset font when changing language. (notting)
- Set locale to en_US.UTF-8 when initializing the console. (notting)


libtirpc-0.1.10-7.fc11
----------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 0.1.10-7
- Replace the Sun RPC license with the BSD license, with the explicit permission of Sun Microsystems


mkinitrd-6.0.85-1.fc11
----------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com> - 6.0.85-1
- Handle F9's crypttab format as well (#501198)


nfs-utils-1.1.5-6.fc11
----------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 1.1.5-6
- Replace the Sun RPC license with the BSD license, with the explicit permission of Sun Microsystems

* Mon Apr 20 2009 Steve Dickson <steved at redhat.com> 1.1.5-5
- Update nfsstat with --sleep and --list options
- Fixed umount from using non-privilege ports (bz 492598)


nfs-utils-lib-1.1.4-6.fc11
--------------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 1.1.4-6
- Replace the Sun RPC license with the BSD license, with the explicit permission of Sun Microsystems


rhythmbox-0.12.1-3.fc11
-----------------------
* Thu May 07 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.12.1-3
- Add patch for sound-juicer changes


rpcbind-0.1.7-3.fc11
--------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.1.7-3
- Replace the Sun RPC license with the BSD license, with the explicit permission of Sun Microsystems


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 7









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From bruno at wolff.to  Wed May 20 13:34:23 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:34:23 -0500
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090520133423.GB27133@wolff.to>

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 14:29:23 -0700,
  Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:
> In a meeting today between Release Engineering, QA, and various team
> leads, we decided to enact a 7 day slip of the Fedora 11 release date.
> The primary reason behind this slip is the state of our blocker bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1  We cannot begin Release Candidate phase until the blocker bugs are closed or at least in MODIFIED state.  We are not there today, which would be our last day to enter RC phase and still have enough time to release on the 26th.  We hope to enter RC phase in the next couple days, and hit our new target, June 2nd.

Based on what I have been seeing in a few critical packages recently, I think
this is a good decision.



From wwoods at redhat.com  Wed May 20 14:38:06 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:38:06 -0400
Subject: Preupgrade problem
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905200950370.9132@sandbox.cz>
References: <13142890905182139l5ca7178nbd01602874928d3e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242759940.17097.15.camel@metroid>
	<alpine.DEB.1.10.0905200950370.9132@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <1242830286.2263.7.camel@zebes>

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:53 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote:
> On Tue, 19 May 2009, Will Woods wrote:
> 
> > Try upgrading createrepo (and preupgrade!) and try it again. You should
> > also update your system and run 'package-cleanup --problems' to make
> > sure your system has the right packages. The old preupgrade (1.0.x)
> > didn't install updates etc. so it sometimes fails to upgrade packages
> > that need upgrading.
> 
> Does this mean, this new preupgrade is uprading the system to latest 
> updates? 

Yes. In fact, it tries to find new repos[1] for *every repo you
currently have enabled*. So (for example) if you're using the rpmfusion
repo(s), it also upgrades to the latest rpmfusion packages available.

-w

[1] It does this by looking at the URL listed in the .repo file and
changing $releasever to the new version. So this works if:

a) the new repo URL is the same as the old one, with just $releasever
changed (e.g. all Fedora and RPMFusion repos), or

b) the repo uses the same URL regardless of Fedora version (e.g. the
Adobe Flash repo)

Any third party repos that *don't* follow one of these two rules will
not get properly upgraded during preupgrade. You should probably email
the repo maintainer and let them know.



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Wed May 20 14:38:10 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 07:38:10 -0700
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <87pre33kml.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>


Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> writes:
> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
> it crashes.

Works for me.  

(yum updated to the current rawhide levels as of a few minutes ago.)

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              http://www.full-steam.org/  (ipv6-only)




From dtimms at iinet.net.au  Wed May 20 14:50:40 2009
From: dtimms at iinet.net.au (David Timms)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 00:50:40 +1000
Subject: Rawhide Netinstall firewall
In-Reply-To: <ABF9510930E1374BA4B4C61A01104FBD0BBE99@Monterossa.activenetwerx.local>
References: <ABF9510930E1374BA4B4C61A01104FBD0BBE99@Monterossa.activenetwerx.local>
Message-ID: <4A1418C0.2040901@iinet.net.au>

On 17/05/09 11:19, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> I have to start a netinstall for a friend tonight who doesn't have
> a firewall or router.
How is the machine going to connect to the internet to download stage2, 
repoinfo and packages ?

> What is the default behavior of the netinstall
> iso's firewall?
Are you asking whether the installer brings up the iptables firewall, 
with external connections dropped and internal outbound connections 
allowed, as it brings up the ethernet interface ?

(I never scanned mine while installing to know. If you set the installer 
to use vnc, it definitely allow a vnc server port on the machine to let 
you connect in.)

DaveT.



From king_rero at yahoo.co.uk  Wed May 20 15:03:05 2009
From: king_rero at yahoo.co.uk (omar naas)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:03:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: /etc/limits.conf applying changes without reboot
Message-ID: <53250.58226.qm@web27901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>


Fedora lovers.

Is there anyway to apply the changes to /etc/security/limits.conf without rebooting my machine?

Many thanks indeed
Omar
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090520/8be31746/attachment.htm>

From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Wed May 20 15:03:50 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:33:50 -0430
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <4A13C208.6020503@hi.is>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>  <4A13C208.6020503@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1242831830.3982.54.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 08:40 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> On 05/20/2009 06:11 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
> > http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
> > it crashes.
> >
> > Rahul
> >
> >   
> Works fine for me :)
> 
> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64

Same version here, no crash.

poc



From kdekorte at gmail.com  Wed May 20 15:11:39 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:11:39 -0600
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <1242831830.3982.54.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org> <4A13C208.6020503@hi.is>
	<1242831830.3982.54.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A141DAB.4080702@gmail.com>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 05/20/2009 09:03 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 08:40 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>> On 05/20/2009 06:11 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
>>> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
>>> it crashes.
>>>
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>>   
>> Works fine for me :)
>>
>> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64
> 
> Same version here, no crash.
> 
> poc
> 

Perhaps knowing what video driver is being used on the machine that is
crashing would be helpful.

The site works fine here for me
firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-4.fc11.x86_64

Kevin

- -- 
Get my public GnuPG key from
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7D0BD5D1
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iEYEARECAAYFAkoUHasACgkQ6w2kMH0L1dHYHwCfWJiW0ycrvx9ExQ7PlBKbB9ar
z84AoIr8m2ouMosHjsPyvPx4R69QgECo
=ddw8
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----



From mefoster at gmail.com  Wed May 20 15:14:51 2009
From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:14:51 +0100
Subject: Settng DPI on gdm and Sessions
In-Reply-To: <1242784468.8848.48.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1242078603.7783.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<guv1se$pka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242772828.4685.140.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<1242778009.8848.10.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1242782794.3601.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<1242784468.8848.48.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <f58861e00905200814j5530f962p63bfdfddabaa6a1b@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/20 Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>:
> When GNOME's not defaulting to 96 dpi, it automatically inherits X's
> setting, but if you override it via GNOME's font configuration dialog,
> it sets it in a private way and the changed setting applies only to GTK+
> apps. I think KDE is the same way. It might be nice if this were all
> co-ordinated between X, GNOME and KDE so that you can choose a manual
> setting either directly in some config file, or the GNOME / KDE apps
> would just poke that config file. Then it'd be nice and consistent.

In my experience, KDE uses a weird mishmash of the strictly accurate
DPI (window contents) and something that I suspect is hard-coded 96DPI
(window decoration, taskbar):
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468451
    http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179962
Then Gnome apps run under KDE seem to do something different again,
but I haven't worked that out exactly.

I've got acceptable-looking results on both of my high-DPI screens by
setting the KDE fonts to 120DPI through the config tool, which gets
things close enough, but that's not super elegant or satisfying.

MEF

-- 
Mary Ellen Foster  --  http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/
ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.



From iarlyy at gmail.com  Wed May 20 16:13:07 2009
From: iarlyy at gmail.com (iarly selbir | ski0s)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:13:07 -0300
Subject: /etc/limits.conf applying changes without reboot
In-Reply-To: <53250.58226.qm@web27901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <53250.58226.qm@web27901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <81481f630905200913t281e66e1hb171705667efb8e4@mail.gmail.com>

Afaik, you need do logout and login to changes take effect.

Regards,

- -
iarly selbir | ski0s

:wq!


On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM, omar naas <king_rero at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Fedora lovers.
>
> Is there anyway to apply the changes to /etc/security/limits.conf without
> rebooting my machine?
>
> Many thanks indeed
> Omar
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090520/61f80e11/attachment.htm>

From rc040203 at freenet.de  Wed May 20 15:27:53 2009
From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:27:53 +0200
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <1242831830.3982.54.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org> <4A13C208.6020503@hi.is>
	<1242831830.3982.54.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A142179.6070605@freenet.de>

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 08:40 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>> On 05/20/2009 06:11 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
>>> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
>>> it crashes.
>>>
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>>   
>> Works fine for me :)
>>
>> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64
> 
> Same version here, no crash.

Well, dynamic pages make a bad test case :)

This morning, was able to reproduce the crash several times, meanwhile I 
can't reproduce it, anymore.

Ralf





From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 20 16:22:24 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:22:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <4A142179.6070605@freenet.de>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org> <4A13C208.6020503@hi.is>
	<1242831830.3982.54.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A142179.6070605@freenet.de>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201221580.15232@localhost.localdomain>



On Wed, 20 May 2009, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 08:40 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>>> On 05/20/2009 06:11 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
>>>> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
>>>> it crashes.
>>>> 
>>>> Rahul
>>>>
>>>> 
>>> Works fine for me :)
>>> 
>>> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64
>> 
>> Same version here, no crash.
>
> Well, dynamic pages make a bad test case :)
>
> This morning, was able to reproduce the crash several times, meanwhile I 
> can't reproduce it, anymore.
>

planet isn't dynamic. it's generated every 20 minutes and written to a 
simple html file.

-sv

From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Wed May 20 16:41:41 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:11:41 -0430
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <4A141DAB.4080702@gmail.com>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org> <4A13C208.6020503@hi.is>
	<1242831830.3982.54.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A141DAB.4080702@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242837701.21829.1.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:11 -0600, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 05/20/2009 09:03 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 08:40 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> >> On 05/20/2009 06:11 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
> >>> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me know if
> >>> it crashes.
> >>>
> >>> Rahul
> >>>
> >>>   
> >> Works fine for me :)
> >>
> >> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64
> > 
> > Same version here, no crash.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> 
> Perhaps knowing what video driver is being used on the machine that is
> crashing would be helpful.
> 
> The site works fine here for me
> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64
> xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-4.fc11.x86_64

Yup, same here.

poc



From jkeating at redhat.com  Wed May 20 16:46:07 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:46:07 -0700
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <20090520133423.GB27133@wolff.to>
References: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090520133423.GB27133@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <1242837967.3029.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 08:34 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> 
> Based on what I have been seeing in a few critical packages recently, I think
> this is a good decision.
> 

Are there open bugs (on the blocker list?) for these concerns?  While we
will take critical issues, this isn't free time, so if you expect the
time to be used to fix the issues you're concerned about, we need to
know about them.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090520/320a6be3/attachment.sig>

From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May 20 18:26:43 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:26:43 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-20 - Fedora QA Meeting Recap
In-Reply-To: <1242824704.2739.72.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1242824704.2739.72.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1242844003.2739.106.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

Full IRC transcript available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090520

= Attendees =

* Adam Williamson (adamw)
* Will Woods (wwoods)
* Fran?ois Cami (fcami)
* John Poelstra (poelcat)
* James Laska (jlaska)
* Jesse Keating (f13)

= Previous meeting follow-up =

# [adamw] - BugStatusWorkFlow - to file a ticket to get bodhi fixed
#* https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/320 is the ticket, lmacken will
look into this

# [adamw] - BugStatusWorkFlow - ask bugzilla guys to add a link from the
bugzilla fields description page to the wiki page, for fedora
#* No updates just yet, will keep on the list for next week.

# [jlaska] - Send informal test day feedback survey to fedora-test-list
and test day participants
#* drafted thanks to Chris Ward, plan to send this week

# [poelcat] - Propose updated F12 schedule with blocker bug dates
#* Checkin next week for a F12 schedule review

# [wwoods] - write a few more upgrade cases (encrypted root upgrade)
#* No updates, keep on the list for next week

= Autoqa update =

* Project page - http://autoqa.fedorahosted.org

No updates this week.  Will indicated efforts have been tied up with
blocker-chasing, but this is still on the list.

= F-11-GA Preparation =

* Blocker bugs (by component) - http://tinyurl.com/pqeq6n   
* Schedule - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule 
** An additional blocker bug meeting will be hosted this Friday, May 22,
2009 ... stay tuned for announcement.

Nothing major to discuss, just reminding folks about the
[https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-May/msg00012.html 1 week slip] to the F-11 GA.

Adamw noted the blocker bug component report was incorrect and included
F11IntelKMS as a F11Blocker bug.  The report was updated.

= F-11 Common Bugs =

Bring out your bugs!  Discussion around documenting known and open
Fedora 11 issues in [[Common_F11_bugs]].  

Jlaska noted that the QA schedule gives more time to complete
outstanding storage testing, but also provides time to document pain
points for the release.  The understanding is that we have the [F11
common bugs] page to fill this need but it's quite bare and in need info
around some of the more popular pain points for the release, including:
# Known rough installation issues
# Outstanding X and KMS issues (intel, nouveau, radeon)
# Outstanding Alsa/pulse sound issues
# <code>your issue here</code>

Adamw noted he has experience doing similar activities and would be
happy to coordinate developing the page for F11. 

The [http://tinyurl.com/r39fmc Current list of bugs] with
<code>fedora_requires_release_note = ?</code> (note, this likely
includes old bugs that don't apply).

Jlaska has privately been using
<code>fedora_requires_release_note?</code> to tag bugs in need of
documentation.  Adamw indicated there needs to be a clear demarcation
between release notes and common issues.  Ideally there should be a
separate flag for requiring a common_issue note rather than a
release_note.  Adamw proposed ''the distinction between release notes
and common issues is simple: release notes is for features, common
issues is for bugs.''
* release notes is for things that are different in the new release
*intentionally*, we changed them because we wanted to
* common issues is for things that are basically broken - i.e. the
changed or odd behavior is not what we want

Wwoods discussed several preupgrade issues that should be fixed for the
final release, and asked for the best avenue to document these issues.

Adamw pointed to the useful Fedora 10 Common bugs -
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/F10Common.  Adam offered to clean up
the Fedora 11 Common bugs page and offer a "template" for use with later
additions to the page.  Adam also suggested keeping the Common Bugs page
as a living document.  The wiki should be updated as issues are fixed,
with links to bodhi errata if applicable.  While this may be difficult
to enforce, handling the majority of ''Common Bugs'' this way should
prove for a pleasant user experience.

Several in the meeting took action items to help flesh out content for
the common bugs page.  Plan to check in next meeting.

= Open discussion =

== xorg-x11-drv-ati concerns ==

Fcami expressed concerns that while xorg-x11-drv-ati is good now, it's
not optimal for most folks.  AMD dropped fglrx support for R400 and
older, so we might see ''fedora does not work anymore for me'' threads
from people who used to rely on fglrx to get their systems working
(mostly the case for IGPs).

Adamw noted other distros that have already released have begun to see
this.

Consensus was that nothing could be done immediately, but fcami asked if
things could be made more clear for users to file bugs (''i.e. dmesg
with drm.debug=1 and Xorg.0.log logs'').  Adamw directed folks to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests.

Fcami planned to check in with the fedora docs team to see about adding
this link to the release notes for future releases.

= Upcoming QA events =

* 2009-05-26 - [[BugZappers/Triage_days]]

= Next Meeting =

* 2009-05-27 16:00 UTC

= Action items =

Carry over from previous week:
# [adamw] - BugStatusWorkFlow - ask bugzilla guys to add a link from the
bugzilla fields description page to the wiki page, for fedora
# [jlaska] - Send informal test day feedback survey to fedora-test-list
and test day participants
# [poelcat] - Check-in on F12 schedule updates
# [wwoods] - write a few more upgrade cases (encrypted root upgrade)

New items:
# [adamw] - clean up the [[Common_F11_bugs]] page to prime contributions
from others
# [adamw] - ping fedora docs team for possible collaboration around
common bug edits or translation
# [jlaska] - contribute installer issues to Common_F11_bugs
# [fcami+adamw] - contribute X and KMS issues to Common_F11_bugs
# [adamw] - contribute alsa/pulseaudio issues to Common_F11_bugs

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090520/7c989a16/attachment.sig>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed May 20 18:44:47 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:44:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>


  i have a prebuilt cross-compile toolchain which, when i try to
compile a simple "hi, world", complains thusly:

/bin/bash:
prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.2.1/bin/arm-eabi-gcc:
/lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory

  since i'm running f11 x86_64, which compat package would i install
to get that 32-bit linker?  thanks.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From paul-fedora at saturnine.org.uk  Wed May 20 18:51:23 2009
From: paul-fedora at saturnine.org.uk (Paul Black)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:51:23 +0100
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/20 Robert P. J. Day:
>
> ?i have a prebuilt cross-compile toolchain which, when i try to
> compile a simple "hi, world", complains thusly:
>
> /bin/bash:
> prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.2.1/bin/arm-eabi-gcc:
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory
>
> ?since i'm running f11 x86_64, which compat package would i install
> to get that 32-bit linker? ?thanks.

yum install /lib/ld-linux.so.2

Should install glibc.i686.

-- 
Paul



From kdekorte at gmail.com  Wed May 20 18:55:17 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:55:17 -0600
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A145215.1090106@gmail.com>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 05/20/2009 12:44 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> 
>   i have a prebuilt cross-compile toolchain which, when i try to
> compile a simple "hi, world", complains thusly:
> 
> /bin/bash:
> prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.2.1/bin/arm-eabi-gcc:
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory
> 
>   since i'm running f11 x86_64, which compat package would i install
> to get that 32-bit linker?  thanks.
> 
> rday

Try

yum provides /lib/ld-linux.so.2

Kevin

- -- 
Get my public GnuPG key from
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7D0BD5D1
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iEYEARECAAYFAkoUUhUACgkQ6w2kMH0L1dF4pgCeMdglKYhtUsj8uiuy7YZoBVok
XHgAn1REyL30p40VqnjQ2Tba8IXvB9fD
=Pvg2
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed May 20 18:55:41 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:55:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
In-Reply-To: <a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>
	<a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201453380.22180@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 20 May 2009, Paul Black wrote:

> 2009/5/20 Robert P. J. Day:
> >
> > ?i have a prebuilt cross-compile toolchain which, when i try to
> > compile a simple "hi, world", complains thusly:
> >
> > /bin/bash:
> > prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.2.1/bin/arm-eabi-gcc:
> > /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory
> >
> > ?since i'm running f11 x86_64, which compat package would i install
> > to get that 32-bit linker? ?thanks.
>
> yum install /lib/ld-linux.so.2
>
> Should install glibc.i686.

  ok, now i feel like an idiot as i had no idea that i could point yum
at individual files and have it do the work for me.  learn something
every day.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================

From Fedora at FamilleCollet.com  Wed May 20 19:03:39 2009
From: Fedora at FamilleCollet.com (Remi Collet)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:03:39 +0200
Subject: Lastest F11 updates not signed
Message-ID: <4A14540B.706@FamilleCollet.com>

I don't read anything about this yet, so :

# yum update
...
Updating:
 libtirpc          x86_64     0.1.10-7.fc11    fedora
 nfs-utils         x86_64     1:1.1.5-6.fc11   fedora
 nfs-utils-lib     x86_64     1.1.4-6.fc11     fedora
 rpcbind           x86_64     0.1.7-3.fc11     fedora
...
Package nfs-utils-lib-1.1.4-6.fc11.x86_64.rpm is not signed


Hope this help.



From tcallawa at redhat.com  Wed May 20 19:03:24 2009
From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:03:24 -0400
Subject: Lastest F11 updates not signed
In-Reply-To: <4A14540B.706@FamilleCollet.com>
References: <4A14540B.706@FamilleCollet.com>
Message-ID: <4A1453FC.2050608@redhat.com>

On 05/20/2009 03:03 PM, Remi Collet wrote:
> I don't read anything about this yet, so :
> 
> # yum update
> ...
> Updating:
>  libtirpc          x86_64     0.1.10-7.fc11    fedora
>  nfs-utils         x86_64     1:1.1.5-6.fc11   fedora
>  nfs-utils-lib     x86_64     1.1.4-6.fc11     fedora
>  rpcbind           x86_64     0.1.7-3.fc11     fedora
> ...
> Package nfs-utils-lib-1.1.4-6.fc11.x86_64.rpm is not signed

Yes. This is my fault. I tagged some packages late yesterday for legal
reasons and forgot to tell Jesse about them, so they got pushed
unsigned. They will be fixed with the next push.

My deepest apologies,

~spot



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Wed May 20 19:14:37 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:14:37 +0300
Subject: Lastest F11 updates not signed
In-Reply-To: <4A1453FC.2050608@redhat.com>
References: <4A14540B.706@FamilleCollet.com> <4A1453FC.2050608@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905201214i76a268ebn6eabc11e612f8115@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/20 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com>

> On 05/20/2009 03:03 PM, Remi Collet wrote:
> > I don't read anything about this yet, so :
> >
> > # yum update
> > ...
> > Updating:
> >  libtirpc          x86_64     0.1.10-7.fc11    fedora
> >  nfs-utils         x86_64     1:1.1.5-6.fc11   fedora
> >  nfs-utils-lib     x86_64     1.1.4-6.fc11     fedora
> >  rpcbind           x86_64     0.1.7-3.fc11     fedora
> > ...
> > Package nfs-utils-lib-1.1.4-6.fc11.x86_64.rpm is not signed
>
> Yes. This is my fault. I tagged some packages late yesterday for legal
> reasons and forgot to tell Jesse about them, so they got pushed
> unsigned. They will be fixed with the next push.
>
> My deepest apologies,


i assumed yum update --nogpgcheck is safe anyway.

>
>
> ~spot
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090520/c58fb8b6/attachment.htm>

From frankly3d at gmail.com  Wed May 20 19:14:48 2009
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d))
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:14:48 +0100
Subject: Heads-Up F11 Unsigned Packages 
Message-ID: <4A1456A8.9010704@gmail.com>

Package nfs-utils-lib-1.1.4-6.fc11.i586.rpm is not signed
Package libtirpc-0.1.10-7.fc11.i586.rpm is not signed
Package rpcbind-0.1.7-3.fc11.i586.rpm is not signed
Package nfs-utils-lib-1.1.4-6.fc11.i586.rpm is not signed

Frank

-- 
msn: frankly3d  skype: frankly3d
Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List
Still Learning, Unicode where possible



From frankly3d at gmail.com  Wed May 20 19:18:20 2009
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d))
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:18:20 +0100
Subject: Lastest F11 updates not signed
In-Reply-To: <4A1453FC.2050608@redhat.com>
References: <4A14540B.706@FamilleCollet.com> <4A1453FC.2050608@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A14577C.6010902@gmail.com>

Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:

> Yes. This is my fault. I tagged some packages late yesterday for legal
> reasons and forgot to tell Jesse about them, so they got pushed
> unsigned. They will be fixed with the next push.
> 
> My deepest apologies,
> 
> ~spot
> 


This just came through, after I sent a heads up.
They're still ok to install though with "--nogpg" ?

Frank



-- 
msn: frankly3d  skype: frankly3d
Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List
Still Learning, Unicode where possible



From tcallawa at redhat.com  Wed May 20 19:18:00 2009
From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:18:00 -0400
Subject: Lastest F11 updates not signed
In-Reply-To: <4A14577C.6010902@gmail.com>
References: <4A14540B.706@FamilleCollet.com> <4A1453FC.2050608@redhat.com>
	<4A14577C.6010902@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A145768.8010208@redhat.com>

On 05/20/2009 03:18 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote:
> Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> 
>> Yes. This is my fault. I tagged some packages late yesterday for legal
>> reasons and forgot to tell Jesse about them, so they got pushed
>> unsigned. They will be fixed with the next push.
>>
>> My deepest apologies,
>>
>> ~spot
>>
> 
> 
> This just came through, after I sent a heads up.
> They're still ok to install though with "--nogpg" ?

Nothing wrong with them, except that they didn't get signed. So,
depending on what level of trust you have in me...  sure. :)

~spot



From davidsen at tmr.com  Wed May 20 20:11:35 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:11:35 -0400
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A1463F7.1070306@tmr.com>

Jesse Keating wrote:
> In a meeting today between Release Engineering, QA, and various team
> leads, we decided to enact a 7 day slip of the Fedora 11 release date.
> The primary reason behind this slip is the state of our blocker bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1  We cannot begin Release Candidate phase until the blocker bugs are closed or at least in MODIFIED state.  We are not there today, which would be our last day to enter RC phase and still have enough time to release on the 26th.  We hope to enter RC phase in the next couple days, and hit our new target, June 2nd.
> 
> Freeze breaks for critical bugs will still be accepted, however trivial
> bug fixes should be pushed as updates via bodhi.  Thanks!
> 
> 
Thanks for the warning, I don't honestly expect the release to be a lot 
different than rawhide. In any case I am using fc11 pre where it makes sense 
already, as are most people I know who would be using it before it has a chance 
to settle.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From stickster at gmail.com  Wed May 20 20:31:56 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:31:56 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1242796150.8848.57.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>
	<20090519165127.GM2271@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242768957.5008.8.camel@adam.local.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191741550.11305@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A133F98.7010805@hi.is> <1242778039.8848.11.camel@adam.local.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905200041460.16620@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242796150.8848.57.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20090520203156.GA528@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:09:10PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 00:42 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 May 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 23:24 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> > > > On 05/19/2009 09:44 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > > > >   for the display, mine's set for 30 minutes but it's *absolutely* not
> > > > > a function of that time value since, as others have mentioned, the
> > > > > screen can go black totally arbitrarily, like when i'm literally in
> > > > > the middle of typing something.  can i assume that's pretty much
> > > > > what's happening to some of the others who have confirmed this?
> > > > >
> > > > Yup
> > > >
> > > > 30 minutes here same symptom
> > >
> > > Can you guys set it to 'never' and see if the behaviour changes?
> > 
> >   ok, that's just the "display" setting under System -> Preferences ->
> > Power Management,  right?
> 
> Yup.

Sorry to hit this thread late.  My setting was already "never."

I filed a new bug, and the time to error was a little under 4 hours
IIRC.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601

-- 
Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
  http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug



From davidsen at tmr.com  Wed May 20 20:35:02 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:35:02 -0400
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201221580.15232@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org>
	<4A13C208.6020503@hi.is>	<1242831830.3982.54.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<4A142179.6070605@freenet.de>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201221580.15232@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A146976.5050206@tmr.com>

Seth Vidal wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 20 May 2009, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> 
>> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 08:40 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>>>> On 05/20/2009 06:11 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are using Firefox on the latest rawhide, go to
>>>>> http://planet.fedoraproject.org and scroll down quickly. Let me 
>>>>> know if
>>>>> it crashes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Works fine for me :)
>>>>
>>>> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64
>>>
>>> Same version here, no crash.
>>
>> Well, dynamic pages make a bad test case :)
>>
>> This morning, was able to reproduce the crash several times, meanwhile 
>> I can't reproduce it, anymore.
>>
> 
> planet isn't dynamic. it's generated every 20 minutes and written to a 
> simple html file.
> 
You are being pedantic, it's unsuitable for testing because the content changes 
so frequently problems can't be replicated. The content is essentially dynamic 
regardless of how it's generated.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot




From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 20 20:36:11 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:36:11 -0700
Subject: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201221580.15232@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A139F03.7040505@fedoraproject.org> <4A13C208.6020503@hi.is>
	<1242831830.3982.54.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A142179.6070605@freenet.de>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201221580.15232@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242851771.8848.155.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 12:22 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:

> >>> Works fine for me :)
> >>> 
> >>> firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64
> >> 
> >> Same version here, no crash.
> >
> > Well, dynamic pages make a bad test case :)
> >
> > This morning, was able to reproduce the crash several times, meanwhile I 
> > can't reproduce it, anymore.
> >
> 
> planet isn't dynamic. it's generated every 20 minutes and written to a 
> simple html file.

It's dynamic in the sense that it changes often, it seems this bug was
caused by something that was on Planet Fedora when Rahul started the
thread, but is no longer there.

Unfortunately it seems no-one got a backtrace while the bug was
reproducible, so it will be impossible to fix until it's encountered on
some other site :(
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 20 20:41:22 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:41:22 -0700
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <20090520133423.GB27133@wolff.to>
References: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090520133423.GB27133@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <1242852082.8848.156.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 08:34 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 14:29:23 -0700,
>   Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:
> > In a meeting today between Release Engineering, QA, and various team
> > leads, we decided to enact a 7 day slip of the Fedora 11 release date.
> > The primary reason behind this slip is the state of our blocker bug:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1  We cannot begin Release Candidate phase until the blocker bugs are closed or at least in MODIFIED state.  We are not there today, which would be our last day to enter RC phase and still have enough time to release on the 26th.  We hope to enter RC phase in the next couple days, and hit our new target, June 2nd.
> 
> Based on what I have been seeing in a few critical packages recently, I think
> this is a good decision.

Are all the issues you're worried enough to consider critical marked as
F11Blocker? Fixes for issues that are not set to block release will not
be accepted for GA.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From davidsen at tmr.com  Wed May 20 20:49:53 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:49:53 -0400
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
In-Reply-To: <a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>
	<a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A146CF1.40103@tmr.com>

Paul Black wrote:
> 2009/5/20 Robert P. J. Day:
>>  i have a prebuilt cross-compile toolchain which, when i try to
>> compile a simple "hi, world", complains thusly:
>>
>> /bin/bash:
>> prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.2.1/bin/arm-eabi-gcc:
>> /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory
>>
>>  since i'm running f11 x86_64, which compat package would i install
>> to get that 32-bit linker?  thanks.
> 
> yum install /lib/ld-linux.so.2
> 
> Should install glibc.i686.
> 
Okay, we have glibc.x86_64, glibc.i686 installed and glibc.i586 available, why 
586 and 686, I thought all the 386 became 586?

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From davidsen at tmr.com  Wed May 20 20:51:53 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:51:53 -0400
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
In-Reply-To: <4A146CF1.40103@tmr.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>	<a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A146CF1.40103@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <4A146D69.308@tmr.com>

Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Paul Black wrote:
>> 2009/5/20 Robert P. J. Day:
>>>  i have a prebuilt cross-compile toolchain which, when i try to
>>> compile a simple "hi, world", complains thusly:
>>>
>>> /bin/bash:
>>> prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.2.1/bin/arm-eabi-gcc:
>>> /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory
>>>
>>>  since i'm running f11 x86_64, which compat package would i install
>>> to get that 32-bit linker?  thanks.
>>
>> yum install /lib/ld-linux.so.2
>>
>> Should install glibc.i686.
>>
> Okay, we have glibc.x86_64, glibc.i686 installed and glibc.i586 
> available, why 586 and 686, I thought all the 386 became 586?
> 
Oh, and the i586 and i686 can't be in at the same time.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed May 20 21:10:30 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:10:30 -0500
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1242837967.3029.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090520133423.GB27133@wolff.to>
	<1242837967.3029.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090520211030.GA15037@wolff.to>

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 09:46:07 -0700,
  Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 08:34 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > 
> > Based on what I have been seeing in a few critical packages recently, I think
> > this is a good decision.
> > 
> 
> Are there open bugs (on the blocker list?) for these concerns?  While we
> will take critical issues, this isn't free time, so if you expect the
> time to be used to fix the issues you're concerned about, we need to
> know about them.

Mostly I was noticing changes in packages needed to do installs, boot or build
livecds. In particular a lot of fixes in anaconda have been going in. It
didn't look to me like there was going to be much chance to test that the
fixes didn't introduce regressions before the gold image was built. Another
week available for testing would make me feel a lot better about it.

I am a little concerned about 501198. It seems to affect some subset of the
people using encrypted file systems. There was a fix that helped some people,
but my last test failed. I wouldn't necessarily say it's a blocker, but it
would be nice to get fixed or a better idea of who is affected so something
can be in the release notes. (Or we might go back to mkinitrd-6.0.83-1 if we
really don't need the fix from 6.0.84-1 to go in.) I am going to do at least
one more test of 6.0.85-1 to make sure my previous test of it that failed was
done correctly.



From tcallawa at redhat.com  Wed May 20 21:40:33 2009
From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:40:33 -0400
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
In-Reply-To: <4A146D69.308@tmr.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>	<a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com>	<4A146CF1.40103@tmr.com>
	<4A146D69.308@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <4A1478D1.4090602@redhat.com>

On 05/20/2009 04:51 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> Okay, we have glibc.x86_64, glibc.i686 installed and glibc.i586
>> available, why 586 and 686, I thought all the 386 became 586?
>>
> Oh, and the i586 and i686 can't be in at the same time.

Glibc is a relatively special case, where the compiler optimizations
used to compile it can actually have a significant effect across the
system, even if the other items are not compiled with the same set of
optimizations.

So, to sum it up simply:

On 32-bit x86
===
Pick One:
* i586 (good)
* i686 (better, but only if your hardware supports i686)

On 64-bit x86_64
===
Pick one:
* x86_64 (only option)

On a Multilib system (32bit and 64bit libs installed side by side)
===
* Pick One from the 32-bit x86 list (i586 or i686)
* Pick One from the 64-bit x86_64 list (x86_64)

This gets even more complicated on sparc, be glad you're on x86! :)

~spot



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed May 20 22:03:05 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:03:05 -0500
Subject: Some recent change broke livecd-creator for large images
In-Reply-To: <20090515065811.GA13901@wolff.to>
References: <20090514210840.GA10019@wolff.to> <20090515065811.GA13901@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <20090520220305.GA18386@wolff.to>

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 01:58:11 -0500,
  Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> 
> The problem is related to the latest pykickstart update. Comments suggest
> that the format of the partition command changed and either it was broken
> or the spin kickstart files needed to be updated to use the new format.

Things should be OK shortly.

pykickstart was updated previously.
An update to e2fsprogs is available from koji.
An update to yum is due out shortly.

This should resolve all of the issues that have been causing problems for
me in building livedvd spins.



From poelstra at redhat.com  Wed May 20 22:08:05 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:08:05 -0700
Subject: Final Blocker Bug Meeting 2009-05-22 (Friday) @ 12:00 EDT / 16:00
 UTC
Message-ID: <4A147F45.1040409@redhat.com>

Release Engineering is hosting a blocker bug review meeting this coming 
Friday at 12:00 EDT / 16:00 UTC to review and retest the remaining bugs 
on the Fedora 11 blocker 
list--https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=f11blocker

This important task will give us a clearer sense as to what decision 
should be made on Tuesday, May 26 about the readiness of the Fedora 11 
Release.

Everyone is welcome to join in the fun.  We'll be meeting at 
irc.freenode.net on the #fedora-bugzappers channel.

Thanks,
John



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 21 00:02:49 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 00:02:49 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090521000249.0F58510F8C4@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    b43-tools-0-0.3.git20090125.fc9
    gpxe-0.9.7-4.fc9
    iotop-0.3-1.fc9
    jack_capture-0.9.34-1.fc9
    jconv-0.8.1-1.fc9
    kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc9
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-2.fc9
    libchewing-0.3.2-9.fc9
    ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc9
    qt-4.5.1-10.fc9
    rkward-0.5.0d-1.fc9
    scala-2.7.4-5.fc9
    tcpreplay-3.4.2-1.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 b43-tools-0-0.3.git20090125.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5239)
 Tools for the Broadcom 43xx series WLAN chip
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

initial push
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490638 - Review Request: b43-tools - Tools for the Broadcom 43xx series WLAN chip
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490638
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gpxe-0.9.7-4.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5260)
 A network boot loader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of the gPXE network boot loader for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492181 - Review Request: gpxe - A network boot loader
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492181
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 iotop-0.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5272)
 Top like utility for I/O
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version:    * -P is now fully implemented and is dynamically
toggled with 'p'  * Show the I/O priority  * Added the --accumulated,
--kilobytes, --time and --quiet options
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 0.3-1
- New upstream version
- fixes RH #475917
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #475917 - iotop crashes with python traceback and error: _curses.error: addstr() returned ERR
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475917
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jack_capture-0.9.34-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4942)
 Record sound files with JACK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Jack_capture is a program for recording sound files with JACK. It's default
operation is to capture whatever sound is going out to your speakers into a
file, but it can do a number of other operations as well.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499323 - Review Request: jack_capture - Record sound files with JACK
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jconv-0.8.1-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5276)
 Jack Convolution Engine
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Jconv is a Convolution Engine for JACK, based on FFT convolution and using non-
uniform partition sizes: small ones at the start of the IR and building up to
the most efficient size further on. It can perform zero-delay processing with
moderate CPU load.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499306 - Review Request: jconv - Jack Convolution Engine
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499306
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4866)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-3
- kde4.(sh|csh): drop QT_PLUGINS_PATH munging, kde4-config call (#498809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4866)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- hack around rssnow+qt-4.5.1 bugosity (kde#190651,rhbz#497659)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libchewing-0.3.2-9.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5274)
 Intelligent phonetic input method library for Traditional Chinese
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update actually fix the ibus-chewing Bug 501220.   Provide GDB traceable
debug info for developers that use libchewing.  Provide GDB traceable debug info
for developers that use libchewing.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.2-9
- Possible Fix of Bug 501220 - RFE: edit last preedit character from end of line
  Chewing upstream does not handle if phrase choice rearward is enabled.
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.2-8
- Fix [Bug 496968] - libchewing-debuginfo does not contain sources.
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.2-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501220 - RFE: edit last preedit character from end of line
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501220
  [ 2 ] Bug #496886 - libchewing-debuginfo does not contain sources
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496886
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5275)
 The NTP daemon and utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes a denial of service issue if autokey is enabled (default is
disabled) and a crash in ntpq.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar at redhat.com> 4.2.4p7-1.fc9
- update to 4.2.4p7 (CVE-2009-1252, CVE-2009-0159)
- don't log STA_MODE changes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499694 - CVE-2009-1252 ntp: remote arbitrary code execution vulnerability if autokeys is enabled
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499694
  [ 2 ] Bug #490617 - CVE-2009-0159 ntp: buffer overflow in ntpq
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490617
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qt-4.5.1-10.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4866)
 Qt toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10
- improved kde4_plugins patch, skip expensive/unneeded canonicalPath
* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-9
- include kde4 plugin path by default (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-8
- fix invalid assumptions about mysql_config --libs (bug #440673)
- fix %files breakage from 4.5.1-5
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-7
- -devel: Provides: qt4-devel%{?_isa} ...
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-6
- drop useless hunk of qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1-enable_ft_lcdfilter.patch
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-5
- -devel: Provides: *-static for libQtUiTools.a
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-4
- qt-doc noarch
- qt-demos, qt-examples (split from -doc)
- (cosmetic) re-order subpkgs in alphabetical order
- drop unused profile.d bits
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-3
- enable FT_LCD_FILTER (uses freetype subpixel filters if available at runtime)
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-2
- apply upstream patch to fix the svg rendering regression
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-1
- 4.5.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rkward-0.5.0d-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5263)
 Graphical frontend for R language
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

RKWard 0.5.0d (KDE 4)        * Fixed: Container of detached windows would
sometimes remain after reattaching      * Fixed: Global toolbar style was not
honored      * Fixed: Auto-scroll missing in progress dialogs and data editor
* Fix jumping toolbar      * Fixed: Several harmless warnings were silenced
* Fixed: Argument hints would always stay on top regardless of focus      * Fix
crash when reaching bottom of command history in context sensitive search      *
Fix crash while inserting rows in a data.frame with string variables
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 0.5.0d-1
- Update to release 0.5.0d
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 scala-2.7.4-5.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5138)
 A hybrid functional/object-oriented language for the JVM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Scala 2.7.4 is the latest upstream release. This was a maintenance bug-fixing
release, aimed at improving stability; no language changes were introduced. For
a complete list of bugs fixed see http://www.scala-lang.org/node/1593
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-5
- fix problem in tooltemplate patch
* Mon May 18 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-4
- make jline implicitly available to match upstream behavior
* Mon May 18 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-3
- fix problem with substitutions to scripts in %install
* Mon May 18 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-2
- fix launcher scripts by modifying template, not overriding them
* Tue May 12 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-1
- update to 2.7.4 final
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 2.7.3-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #476938 - jline not in scala's classpath
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476938
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tcpreplay-3.4.2-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5249)
 Replay captured network traffic
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Added extensive IPv6 support to tcprewrite & tcpreplay-edit (#11)  - Add IPv6
fragroute support (#388)  - Add IPv6 decoding support to tcpprep (#11)  - Fix
compile time error in err.h (#390)  - Add --endpoints support in tcpreplay-edit
(#393)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Bojan Smojver <bojan at rexursive com> - 3.4.2-1
- bump up to 3.4.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 21 00:02:49 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 00:02:49 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090521000249.3FCB410F8C5@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    b43-tools-0-0.3.git20090125.fc10
    createrepo-0.9.7-7.fc10
    fsarchiver-0.5.6-1.fc10
    gpxe-0.9.7-4.fc10
    iotop-0.3-1.fc10
    jack_capture-0.9.34-1.fc10
    jconv-0.8.1-1.fc10
    kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc10
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-2.fc10
    libchewing-0.3.2-10.fc10
    libchewing-0.3.2-9.fc10
    libmemcached-0.29-1.fc10
    lmms-0.4.4-1.fc10
    ncl-5.1.0-2.fc10
    ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10
    perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn-0.00002-1.fc10
    perl-Text-Emoticon-MSN-0.04-1.fc10
    perl-XML-Feed-0.43-1.fc10
    qt-4.5.1-10.fc10
    rkward-0.5.0d-1.fc10
    scala-2.7.4-5.fc10
    tcpreplay-3.4.2-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 b43-tools-0-0.3.git20090125.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5262)
 Tools for the Broadcom 43xx series WLAN chip
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

initial push
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490638 - Review Request: b43-tools - Tools for the Broadcom 43xx series WLAN chip
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490638
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 createrepo-0.9.7-7.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5255)
 Creates a common metadata repository
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update is to keep createrepo working with the new yum 3.2.22 update. This
update also includes deltarpm creation support.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.7-7
- reup to head
* Sat Apr 18 2009 James Antill <james at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.7-6
- add patch to fix size limit
* Fri Apr 17 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.7-5
- add patch to make sure deltarpm creation doesn't obliterate our compose boxes
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.7-4
- patch another buglet
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.7-2
- fix 495845 and other presto issues
* Tue Mar 24 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.7-1
- 0.9.7
- require yum 3.2.22
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.6-12
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Feb 10 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.6-11
- change the order of deltarpms
* Wed Feb  4 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.6-10
- working mergerepo again
* Tue Feb  3 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.6-9
- fix normal createrepo'ing w/o the presto patches :(
* Mon Feb  2 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.6-7
- add deltarpm requirement for making presto metadata
* Tue Jan 27 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.6-6
- one more patch set to make sure modifyrepo works with sha256's, too
* Mon Jan 26 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.6-5
- add patch from upstream head for sha256 support
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 0.9.6-4
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501516 - yum-3.2.22-5.fc10 breaks createrepo
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501516
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fsarchiver-0.5.6-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5248)
 Safe and flexible file-system backup/deployment tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New Upstream Version:        * Fixed execution of command having an argument
with spaces (restfs was broken when the fs label had spaces)      * Better error
message when attempting to save an ntfs filesystem which is already mounted with
ntfs-3g       * Fixed segfault when the decompression function fails      *
Fixed decompression problems with lzma due to memory limit to low       * Fixed
problems in the management of SIGINT when the Ctrl+C is pressed to abort      *
Fixed warning about xattr attributes being too large when the size returned is
-1      * Bug fix: fuse filesystems were not unmounted correctly after a fatal
error       * Support for extended attributes up to 64k (the size was limited to
1024 bytes)      * The file header is only copied if open64() is successful
(prevents header with no data)      * Management of files which are truncated
during a live-backup (padding with zeros)      * Test to make sure it cannot
archive the archive itself during a live-backup      * Improved error management
when there are problems on files or attributes in create.c
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> - 0.5.6-1
- Update to 0.5.6
* Tue May 19 2009 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> - 0.5.5-2
- BR e2fsprogs
* Tue May 19 2009 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> - 0.5.5-1
- Update to 0.5.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gpxe-0.9.7-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5228)
 A network boot loader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of the gPXE network boot loader for Fedora. Initial release of
the gPXE network boot loader for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492181 - Review Request: gpxe - A network boot loader
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492181
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 iotop-0.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5234)
 Top like utility for I/O
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version:    * -P is now fully implemented and is dynamically
toggled with 'p'  * Show the I/O priority  * Added the --accumulated,
--kilobytes, --time and --quiet options
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 0.3-1
- New upstream version
- fixes RH #475917
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #475917 - iotop crashes with python traceback and error: _curses.error: addstr() returned ERR
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475917
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jack_capture-0.9.34-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4936)
 Record sound files with JACK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Jack_capture is a program for recording sound files with JACK. It's default
operation is to capture whatever sound is going out to your speakers into a
file, but it can do a number of other operations as well.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499323 - Review Request: jack_capture - Record sound files with JACK
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jconv-0.8.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5235)
 Jack Convolution Engine
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Jconv is a Convolution Engine for JACK, based on FFT convolution and using non-
uniform partition sizes: small ones at the start of the IR and building up to
the most efficient size further on. It can perform zero-delay processing with
moderate CPU load.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499306 - Review Request: jconv - Jack Convolution Engine
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499306
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4844)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-3
- kde4.(sh|csh): drop QT_PLUGINS_PATH munging, kde4-config call (#498809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 2 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4844)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- hack around rssnow+qt-4.5.1 bugosity (kde#190651,rhbz#497659)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 2 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libchewing-0.3.2-10.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5237)
 Intelligent phonetic input method library for Traditional Chinese
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Need autoreconf and BuildRequires: pkgconfig to make changes in Makefile.am
effective,     thus actually fix [Bug 477960] libchewing multilib conflict.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.2-10
- Need autoreconf to make changes in Makefile.am effective.
* Mon May 18 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.2-9
- Possible Fix of Bug 501220 - RFE: edit last preedit character from end of line
  Chewing upstream does not handle if phrase choice rearward is enabled.
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.2-8
- Fix [Bug 496968] - libchewing-debuginfo does not contain sources.
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.2-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libchewing-0.3.2-9.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5265)
 Intelligent phonetic input method library for Traditional Chinese
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update actually fix the ibus-chewing Bug 500281.  Provide GDB traceable
debug info for developers that use libchewing. Provide GDB traceable debug info
for developers that use libchewing.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.2-9
- Possible Fix of Bug 501220 - RFE: edit last preedit character from end of line
  Chewing upstream does not handle if phrase choice rearward is enabled.
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.2-8
- Fix [Bug 496968] - libchewing-debuginfo does not contain sources.
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.2-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500281 - [nouveau] Does not support static screen rotation.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500281
  [ 2 ] Bug #496886 - libchewing-debuginfo does not contain sources
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496886
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libmemcached-0.29-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5268)
 Client library and command line tools for memcached server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

libmemcached is a C client library to the memcached server
(http://danga.com/memcached). It has been designed to be light on memory usage,
and provide full access to server side methods.    It also implements several
command line tools:    memcat - Copy the value of a key to standard output.
memflush - Flush the contents of your servers.  memrm - Remove a key(s) from the
server.  memstat - Dump the stats of your servers to standard output.  memslap -
Generate testing loads on a memcached cluster.  memcp - Copy files to memcached
servers.  memerror - Creates human readable messages from libmemcached error
codes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497682 - Review Request: libmemcached - Client library and command line tools for memcached server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497682
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lmms-0.4.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5252)
 Linux MultiMedia Studio
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

LMMS aims to be a free alternative to popular (but commercial and closed-
source) programs allowing you to produce music with your computer. This includes
creation of loops, synthesizing and mixing sounds, arranging samples, having fun
with your MIDI-keyboard and much more...    LMMS combines the features of a
tracker-/sequencer-program and those of powerful synthesizers, samplers, effects
etc. in a modern, user-friendly and easy to use graphical user-interface.
Features     * Song-Editor for arranging the song   * creating beats and
basslines using the Beat-/Bassline-Editor   * easy-to-use piano-roll for editing
patterns and melodies   * instrument- and effect-plugins   * support for hosting
VST(i)- and LADSPA-plugins (instruments/effects)   * automation-editor   * MIDI-
support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #443771 - Review Request: lmms - Linux MultiMedia Studio
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443771
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ncl-5.1.0-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5251)
 NCAR Command Language and NCAR Graphics
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes serious problems with the original 5.1.0 update.  You will
need a new shell after installing the update to get all of the needed
environment changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 5.1.0-2
- Set NCARG_NCARG to /usr/share/ncarg
- Move fontcaps and graphcaps back to main arch dependent package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5273)
 The NTP daemon and utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes a denial of service issue if autokey is enabled (default is
disabled) and a crash in ntpq.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar at redhat.com> 4.2.4p7-1
- update to 4.2.4p7 (CVE-2009-1252, CVE-2009-0159)
- don't log STA_MODE changes
- check status in condrestart (#481261)
- convert COPYRIGHT to UTF-8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499694 - CVE-2009-1252 ntp: remote arbitrary code execution vulnerability if autokeys is enabled
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499694
  [ 2 ] Bug #490617 - CVE-2009-0159 ntp: buffer overflow in ntpq
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490617
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn-0.00002-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5258)
 Automatically encode columns
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499773 - Review Request: perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn - Automatically encode columns
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499773
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-Emoticon-MSN-0.04-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5247)
 Emoticon filter of MSN Messenger
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500197 - Review Request: perl-Text-Emoticon-MSN - Emoticon filter of MSN Messenger
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500197
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-XML-Feed-0.43-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5240)
 Syndication feed parser and auto-discovery
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501099 - Review Request: perl-XML-Feed - Syndication feed parser and auto-discovery
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501099
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qt-4.5.1-10.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4844)
 Qt toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10
- improved kde4_plugins patch, skip expensive/unneeded canonicalPath
* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-9
- include kde4 plugin path by default (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-8
- fix invalid assumptions about mysql_config --libs (bug #440673)
- fix %files breakage from 4.5.1-5
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-7
- -devel: Provides: qt4-devel%{?_isa} ...
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-6
- drop useless hunk of qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1-enable_ft_lcdfilter.patch
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-5
- -devel: Provides: *-static for libQtUiTools.a
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-4
- qt-doc noarch
- qt-demos, qt-examples (split from -doc)
- (cosmetic) re-order subpkgs in alphabetical order
- drop unused profile.d bits
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-3
- enable FT_LCD_FILTER (uses freetype subpixel filters if available at runtime)
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-2
- apply upstream patch to fix the svg rendering regression
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-1
- 4.5.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 2 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rkward-0.5.0d-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5266)
 Graphical frontend for R language
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

RKWard 0.5.0d (KDE 4)        * Fixed: Container of detached windows would
sometimes remain after reattaching      * Fixed: Global toolbar style was not
honored      * Fixed: Auto-scroll missing in progress dialogs and data editor
* Fix jumping toolbar      * Fixed: Several harmless warnings were silenced
* Fixed: Argument hints would always stay on top regardless of focus      * Fix
crash when reaching bottom of command history in context sensitive search      *
Fix crash while inserting rows in a data.frame with string variables
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 0.5.0d-1
- Update to release 0.5.0d
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 scala-2.7.4-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5142)
 A hybrid functional/object-oriented language for the JVM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Scala 2.7.4 is the latest upstream release. This was a maintenance bug-fixing
release, aimed at improving stability; no language changes were introduced. For
a complete list of bugs fixed see http://www.scala-lang.org/node/1593
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-5
- fix problem in tooltemplate patch
* Mon May 18 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-4
- make jline implicitly available to match upstream behavior
* Mon May 18 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-3
- fix problem with substitutions to scripts in %install
* Mon May 18 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-2
- fix launcher scripts by modifying template, not overriding them
* Tue May 12 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-1
- update to 2.7.4 final
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 2.7.3-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #476938 - jline not in scala's classpath
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476938
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tcpreplay-3.4.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5271)
 Replay captured network traffic
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Added extensive IPv6 support to tcprewrite & tcpreplay-edit (#11)  - Add IPv6
fragroute support (#388)  - Add IPv6 decoding support to tcpprep (#11)  - Fix
compile time error in err.h (#390)  - Add --endpoints support in tcpreplay-edit
(#393)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Bojan Smojver <bojan at rexursive com> - 3.4.2-1
- bump up to 3.4.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 21 00:02:49 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 00:02:49 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090521000249.2735010F8C2@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    b43-tools-0-0.3.git20090125.fc11
    febootstrap-2.0-1.fc11
    fsarchiver-0.5.6-1.fc11
    gpxe-0.9.7-4.fc11
    iotop-0.3-1.fc11
    jack_capture-0.9.34-1.fc11
    jconv-0.8.1-1.fc11
    kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc11
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-2.fc11
    libchewing-0.3.2-10.fc11
    libchewing-0.3.2-9.fc11
    libguestfs-1.0.27-1.fc11.1
    libmemcached-0.29-1.fc11
    lmms-0.4.4-1.fc11
    ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc11
    perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn-0.00002-1.fc11
    perl-Text-Emoticon-MSN-0.04-1.fc11
    perl-XML-Feed-0.43-1.fc11
    qt-4.5.1-10.fc11
    rkward-0.5.0d-1.fc11
    scala-2.7.4-5.fc11
    tcpreplay-3.4.2-1.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 b43-tools-0-0.3.git20090125.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5256)
 Tools for the Broadcom 43xx series WLAN chip
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

initial push
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490638 - Review Request: b43-tools - Tools for the Broadcom 43xx series WLAN chip
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490638
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 febootstrap-2.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5269)
 Bootstrap a new Fedora system (like debootstrap)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version 2.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 2.0-1
- New upstream release 2.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fsarchiver-0.5.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5238)
 Safe and flexible file-system backup/deployment tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New Upstream Version:        * Fixed execution of command having an argument
with spaces (restfs was broken when the fs label had spaces)      * Better error
message when attempting to save an ntfs filesystem which is already mounted with
ntfs-3g       * Fixed segfault when the decompression function fails      *
Fixed decompression problems with lzma due to memory limit to low       * Fixed
problems in the management of SIGINT when the Ctrl+C is pressed to abort      *
Fixed warning about xattr attributes being too large when the size returned is
-1      * Bug fix: fuse filesystems were not unmounted correctly after a fatal
error       * Support for extended attributes up to 64k (the size was limited to
1024 bytes)      * The file header is only copied if open64() is successful
(prevents header with no data)      * Management of files which are truncated
during a live-backup (padding with zeros)      * Test to make sure it cannot
archive the archive itself during a live-backup      * Improved error management
when there are problems on files or attributes in create.c
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> - 0.5.6-1
- Update to 0.5.6
* Tue May 19 2009 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> - 0.5.5-2
- BR e2fsprogs
* Tue May 19 2009 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> - 0.5.5-1
- Update to 0.5.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gpxe-0.9.7-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5243)
 A network boot loader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of the gPXE network boot loader for Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492181 - Review Request: gpxe - A network boot loader
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492181
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 iotop-0.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5231)
 Top like utility for I/O
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version:    * -P is now fully implemented and is dynamically
toggled with 'p'  * Show the I/O priority  * Added the --accumulated,
--kilobytes, --time and --quiet options
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 0.3-1
- New upstream version
- fixes RH #475917
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #475917 - iotop crashes with python traceback and error: _curses.error: addstr() returned ERR
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475917
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jack_capture-0.9.34-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4969)
 Record sound files with JACK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Jack_capture is a program for recording sound files with JACK. It's default
operation is to capture whatever sound is going out to your speakers into a
file, but it can do a number of other operations as well.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499323 - Review Request: jack_capture - Record sound files with JACK
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jconv-0.8.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5253)
 Jack Convolution Engine
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Jconv is a Convolution Engine for JACK, based on FFT convolution and using non-
uniform partition sizes: small ones at the start of the IR and building up to
the most efficient size further on. It can perform zero-delay processing with
moderate CPU load.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499306 - Review Request: jconv - Jack Convolution Engine
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499306
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4813)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-3
- kde4.(sh|csh): drop QT_PLUGINS_PATH munging, kde4-config call (#498809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #440673 - qt: makes incorrect assumptions aboug mysql_config --libs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440673
  [ 2 ] Bug #497659 - rssnow applet blank with qt-4.5.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497659
  [ 3 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 4 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
  [ 5 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4813)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- hack around rssnow+qt-4.5.1 bugosity (kde#190651,rhbz#497659)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #440673 - qt: makes incorrect assumptions aboug mysql_config --libs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440673
  [ 2 ] Bug #497659 - rssnow applet blank with qt-4.5.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497659
  [ 3 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 4 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
  [ 5 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libchewing-0.3.2-10.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5242)
 Intelligent phonetic input method library for Traditional Chinese
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Need autoreconf and BuildRequires: pkgconfig to make changes in Makefile.am
effective,     thus actually fix [Bug 477960] libchewing multilib conflict.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.2-10
- Need autoreconf to make changes in Makefile.am effective.
* Mon May 18 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.2-9
- Possible Fix of Bug 501220 - RFE: edit last preedit character from end of line
  Chewing upstream does not handle if phrase choice rearward is enabled.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libchewing-0.3.2-9.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5245)
 Intelligent phonetic input method library for Traditional Chinese
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update actually fix the ibus-chewing Bug 500281.  Provide GDB traceable
debug info for developers that use libchewing. Provide GDB traceable debug info
for developers that use libchewing.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.2-9
- Possible Fix of Bug 501220 - RFE: edit last preedit character from end of line
  Chewing upstream does not handle if phrase choice rearward is enabled.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500281 - [nouveau] Does not support static screen rotation.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500281
  [ 2 ] Bug #496886 - libchewing-debuginfo does not contain sources
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496886
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libguestfs-1.0.27-1.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-5241)
 Access and modify virtual machine disk images
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version 1.0.27.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1.fc11.1
- Requested that zerofree and febootstrap be moved so we will be able
  to build this.
* Wed May 20 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1
- Backport version 1.0.27 from devel branch.
* Tue May 12 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.25-3
- New upstream version 1.0.25.
- Enable debugging when running the tests.
* Tue May 12 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.24-1
- New upstream version 1.0.24.
- BRs glibc-static for the new command tests.
- Enable tests.
* Mon May 11 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.23-2
- New upstream version 1.0.23.
- Don't try to use updates during build.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libmemcached-0.29-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5236)
 Client library and command line tools for memcached server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

libmemcached is a C client library to the memcached server
(http://danga.com/memcached). It has been designed to be light on memory usage,
and provide full access to server side methods.    It also implements several
command line tools:    memcat - Copy the value of a key to standard output.
memflush - Flush the contents of your servers.  memrm - Remove a key(s) from the
server.  memstat - Dump the stats of your servers to standard output.  memslap -
Generate testing loads on a memcached cluster.  memcp - Copy files to memcached
servers.  memerror - Creates human readable messages from libmemcached error
codes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497682 - Review Request: libmemcached - Client library and command line tools for memcached server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497682
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lmms-0.4.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5244)
 Linux MultiMedia Studio
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.4.4. This version is a maintainance release of the 0.4.x series. It
fixes most of the bugs found in version 0.4.3 and has improved stability.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 0.4.4-1
- Update to 0.4.4.
- Need to borrow patches for embedded fltk from the fltk package.
- Update detailed license information in the spec file.
- Update patches.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5259)
 The NTP daemon and utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes a denial of service issue if autokey is enabled (default is
disabled).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar at redhat.com> 4.2.4p7-1
- update to 4.2.4p7 (CVE-2009-1252)
- improve PLL response when kernel discipline is disabled
- don't log STA_MODE changes
- enable nanokernel support
- allow minpoll 3
- increase memlock limit
- move html documentation to -doc subpackage (#492444)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499694 - CVE-2009-1252 ntp: remote arbitrary code execution vulnerability if autokeys is enabled
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499694
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn-0.00002-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5267)
 Automatically encode columns
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499773 - Review Request: perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn - Automatically encode columns
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499773
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Text-Emoticon-MSN-0.04-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5261)
 Emoticon filter of MSN Messenger
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500197 - Review Request: perl-Text-Emoticon-MSN - Emoticon filter of MSN Messenger
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500197
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-XML-Feed-0.43-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5229)
 Syndication feed parser and auto-discovery
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501099 - Review Request: perl-XML-Feed - Syndication feed parser and auto-discovery
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501099
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qt-4.5.1-10.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4813)
 Qt toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10
- improved kde4_plugins patch, skip expensive/unneeded canonicalPath
* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-9
- include kde4 plugin path by default (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-8
- fix invalid assumptions about mysql_config --libs (bug #440673)
- fix %files breakage from 4.5.1-5
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-7
- -devel: Provides: qt4-devel%{?_isa} ...
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-6
- drop useless hunk of qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1-enable_ft_lcdfilter.patch
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-5
- -devel: Provides: *-static for libQtUiTools.a
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-4
- qt-doc noarch
- qt-demos, qt-examples (split from -doc)
- (cosmetic) re-order subpkgs in alphabetical order
- drop unused profile.d bits
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-3
- enable FT_LCD_FILTER (uses freetype subpixel filters if available at runtime)
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-2
- apply upstream patch to fix the svg rendering regression
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-1
- 4.5.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #440673 - qt: makes incorrect assumptions aboug mysql_config --libs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440673
  [ 2 ] Bug #497659 - rssnow applet blank with qt-4.5.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497659
  [ 3 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 4 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
  [ 5 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rkward-0.5.0d-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5230)
 Graphical frontend for R language
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

RKWard 0.5.0d (KDE 4)        * Fixed: Container of detached windows would
sometimes remain after reattaching      * Fixed: Global toolbar style was not
honored      * Fixed: Auto-scroll missing in progress dialogs and data editor
* Fix jumping toolbar      * Fixed: Several harmless warnings were silenced
* Fixed: Argument hints would always stay on top regardless of focus      * Fix
crash when reaching bottom of command history in context sensitive search      *
Fix crash while inserting rows in a data.frame with string variables
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 0.5.0d-1
- Update to release 0.5.0d
* Wed Apr 22 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 0.5.0c-2
- Rebuild for R-2.9.0
- Uses %global instead of %define
* Tue Mar 31 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 0.5.0c-1
- Update to version 0.5.0c
- Remove the BuildRequires on PyQt-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 scala-2.7.4-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5069)
 A hybrid functional/object-oriented language for the JVM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Scala 2.7.4 is the latest upstream release. This was a maintenance bug-fixing
release, aimed at improving stability; no language changes were introduced. For
a complete list of bugs fixed see http://www.scala-lang.org/node/1593
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-5
- fix problem in tooltemplate patch
* Mon May 18 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-4
- make jline implicitly available to match upstream behavior
* Mon May 18 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-3
- fix problem with substitutions to scripts in %install
* Mon May 18 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-2
- fix launcher scripts by modifying template, not overriding them
* Tue May 12 2009 Geoff Reedy <geoff at programmer-monk.net> - 2.7.4-1
- update to 2.7.4 final
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #476938 - jline not in scala's classpath
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476938
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tcpreplay-3.4.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5246)
 Replay captured network traffic
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Added extensive IPv6 support to tcprewrite & tcpreplay-edit (#11)  - Add IPv6
fragroute support (#388)  - Add IPv6 decoding support to tcpprep (#11)  - Fix
compile time error in err.h (#390)  - Add --endpoints support in tcpreplay-edit
(#393)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Bojan Smojver <bojan at rexursive com> - 3.4.2-1
- bump up to 3.4.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From cry_regarder at yahoo.com  Thu May 21 00:11:02 2009
From: cry_regarder at yahoo.com (Cry)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 00:11:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Lastest F11 updates not signed
References: <4A14540B.706@FamilleCollet.com> <4A1453FC.2050608@redhat.com>
	<4A14577C.6010902@gmail.com> <4A145768.8010208@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20090521T001008-405@post.gmane.org>

Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa <at> redhat.com> writes:
> On 05/20/2009 03:18 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote:
> > This just came through, after I sent a heads up.
> > They're still ok to install though with "--nogpg" ?
> 
> Nothing wrong with them, except that they didn't get signed. So,
> depending on what level of trust you have in me...  sure. :)

It's not the level of trust in spot...it's the level of trust in the
distribution system...




From JCasale at activenetwerx.com  Thu May 21 01:01:03 2009
From: JCasale at activenetwerx.com (Joseph L. Casale)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 01:01:03 +0000
Subject: Rawhide Netinstall firewall
In-Reply-To: <4A1418C0.2040901@iinet.net.au>
References: <ABF9510930E1374BA4B4C61A01104FBD0BBE99@Monterossa.activenetwerx.local>
	<4A1418C0.2040901@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <ABF9510930E1374BA4B4C61A01104FBD0C2A65@Monterossa.activenetwerx.local>

>Are you asking whether the installer brings up the iptables firewall,
>with external connections dropped and internal outbound connections
>allowed, as it brings up the ethernet interface ?

That's exactly what I wanted to know, also about the running services
and its potential exposure while installing...

Thanks,
jlc



From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Thu May 21 03:41:37 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:41:37 +1000
Subject: Using a pulseaudio network sink
In-Reply-To: <guv3u2$248$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <d58417910905130217x563957f1qbdfa8930741dfb33@mail.gmail.com>
	<guv3u2$248$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <d58417910905202041u15e0a487u7e4bdc09b819e3e3@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the suggestion. I will upgrade the desktop soon and will let you
know if it solves the problem.

Regards,
Masood
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/19682377/attachment.htm>

From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Thu May 21 07:49:38 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 00:49:38 -0700
Subject: squid-3.1
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905210049r6e950dc3t2191d1cb91850bec@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

I know that I posted a similar email in the short recent past about this
same software version, but I never did see a response within the next week
after it...

I would like to know if squid-3.1 is schedduled for Fedora11 or not???

Sincerely,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/fd71b6d8/attachment.htm>

From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Thu May 21 07:51:24 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 00:51:24 -0700
Subject: python-3.1
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905210051r44db40b7ne42875c460a473a3@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

I am not certain of the release schedule for python, but is this a
possibility for F11?  Or possibly F12?

Sincerely,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/20db8d49/attachment.htm>

From joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de  Thu May 21 08:13:52 2009
From: joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de (Joachim Backes)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:13:52 +0200
Subject: Question: Differences between F11 Beta and F11 Preview
Message-ID: <4A150D40.2010008@rhrk.uni-kl.de>

Hi,

is there any difference between F11-Beta with all applied updates and 
F11-Preview?

Regards

Joachim Backes <joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de>

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: smime.p7s
Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature
Size: 6101 bytes
Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/54cec862/attachment.bin>

From mcepl at redhat.com  Thu May 21 08:16:42 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:16:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Fedora11 64bit flash not working for me.
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>

Lawrence E. Graves, Tue, 19 May 2009 13:02:32 -0600:
> You must install at the root level.  Extract file libflashplayer.so type
> nautilus from in terminal root, go to usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins and
> insert in that file and you got it.

I would stress this ... installing libflashplayer.so somewhere in 
~/.mozilla WON'T WORK, it is known and intentional.

Mat?j



From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Thu May 21 08:38:29 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:08:29 +0530
Subject: python-3.1
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10905210051r44db40b7ne42875c460a473a3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905210051r44db40b7ne42875c460a473a3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <89bdee5a0905210138h742859cdy84396b4109f4c5ef@mail.gmail.com>

>
> I am not certain of the release schedule for python, but is this a
> possibility for F11?  Or possibly F12?
>
> Sincerely,
> Rob G. Healey
>

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python_2.6

This is for F11. I believe feature list of F12 is yet to be finalized.

-- 
Gireesh
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/3c8e134d/attachment.htm>

From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 21 08:43:22 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:13:22 +0530
Subject: python-3.1
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10905210051r44db40b7ne42875c460a473a3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905210051r44db40b7ne42875c460a473a3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A15142A.6020806@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/21/2009 01:21 PM, Rob Healey wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> I am not certain of the release schedule for python, but is this a
> possibility for F11?  Or possibly F12?

Python 3.x is incompatible with Python 2.x and basically will break the
world. That is certainly not suitable for Fedora 11 about to be released
in a week. Unlikely for Fedora 12 as well. Basically unless there is a
strong adoption from upstream projects using Python, it is going to get
postponed for a long time.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 21 08:44:28 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:14:28 +0530
Subject: Question: Differences between F11 Beta and F11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <4A150D40.2010008@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
References: <4A150D40.2010008@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
Message-ID: <4A15146C.7000002@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/21/2009 01:43 PM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is there any difference between F11-Beta with all applied updates and
> F11-Preview?


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_from_pre-release_to_final

Rahul



From frankly3d at gmail.com  Thu May 21 08:44:31 2009
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d))
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:44:31 +0100
Subject: Question: Differences between F11 Beta and F11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <4A150D40.2010008@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
References: <4A150D40.2010008@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
Message-ID: <4A15146F.9040704@gmail.com>

Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is there any difference between F11-Beta with all applied updates and 
> F11-Preview?
> 

They should be the same,
No need to download a new ISO,
Unless you want to.

Frank

-- 
msn: frankly3d  skype: frankly3d
Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List
Still Learning, Unicode where possible



From the.masch at gmail.com  Thu May 21 08:50:12 2009
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 05:50:12 -0300
Subject: Question: Differences between F11 Beta and F11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <4A15146F.9040704@gmail.com>
References: <4A150D40.2010008@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <4A15146F.9040704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93d66b780905210150p7de5748fn30c0588bca8a0877@mail.gmail.com>

I have installed the alpha version and I upgraded it to the latest version,
but in this kind of installation I have this error during the boot:

Remounting root filesystem in read-write mode:             [  OK  ]
Mounting local filesystems:  mount: none already mounted or
/sys/bus/usb/drivers busy
                                                           [FAILED]

I have installed F11-Preview with updates in another machine and I do not
have this error. Is it possible to fix it?

Salu2...
masch...

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) <
frankly3d at gmail.com> wrote:

> Joachim Backes wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there any difference between F11-Beta with all applied updates and
>> F11-Preview?
>>
>>
> They should be the same,
> No need to download a new ISO,
> Unless you want to.
>
> Frank
>
> --
> msn: frankly3d  skype: frankly3d
> Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List
> Still Learning, Unicode where possible
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/caca839d/attachment.htm>

From paul-fedora at saturnine.org.uk  Thu May 21 08:52:33 2009
From: paul-fedora at saturnine.org.uk (Paul Black)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:52:33 +0100
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
In-Reply-To: <4A1478D1.4090602@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain> 
	<a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A146CF1.40103@tmr.com> <4A146D69.308@tmr.com>
	<4A1478D1.4090602@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <a9274eb10905210152q7e8463f4q69964b4ba52dc71b@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/20 Tom "spot" Callaway:
> On 32-bit x86
> ===
> Pick One:
> * i586 (good)
> * i686 (better, but only if your hardware supports i686)

<snip>

> On a Multilib system (32bit and 64bit libs installed side by side)
> ===
> * Pick One from the 32-bit x86 list (i586 or i686)
> * Pick One from the 64-bit x86_64 list (x86_64)

If, on a 32-bit system, it's better to have the i686 version if
possible, why is there an i586 version for 64-bit systems?

-- 
Paul



From frankly3d at gmail.com  Thu May 21 09:02:09 2009
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d))
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:02:09 +0100
Subject: Question: Differences between F11 Beta and F11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <93d66b780905210150p7de5748fn30c0588bca8a0877@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A150D40.2010008@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <4A15146F.9040704@gmail.com>
	<93d66b780905210150p7de5748fn30c0588bca8a0877@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A151891.9050704@gmail.com>

Mario Chacon wrote:
> I have installed the alpha version and I upgraded it to the latest 
> version, but in this kind of installation I have this error during the 
> boot:
>
> Remounting root filesystem in read-write mode:             [  OK  ]
> Mounting local filesystems:  mount: none already mounted or 
> /sys/bus/usb/drivers busy
>                                                            [FAILED]
>
> I have installed F11-Preview with updates in another machine and I do 
> not have this error. Is it possible to fix it?
>
Hi Mario.

If you can help it, try not top post,
as it's hard to follow the conversation.

This is basically as your post of:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg00415.html

Check bugzilla for similar problem.
If none exist, create a new one.
bugzilla.redhat.com

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report

Frank



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Thu May 21 09:13:21 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 05:13:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: python-3.1
In-Reply-To: <89bdee5a0905210138h742859cdy84396b4109f4c5ef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905210051r44db40b7ne42875c460a473a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<89bdee5a0905210138h742859cdy84396b4109f4c5ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905210509420.6571@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 21 May 2009, Gireesh wrote:

>
>
>       I am not certain of the release schedule for python, but is this a
>       possibility for F11?? Or possibly F12?
>
>       Sincerely,
>       Rob G. Healey
>
> ?
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python_2.6
>
> This is for F11. I believe feature list of F12 is yet to be finalized.

  for the purposes of testing python-3.1, i downloaded and built from
the Python-3.1b1.tar.bz2 tarball, and installed (by default) in
/usr/local/bin and it seems to co-exist nicely next to the standard
2.6.

  the only build issue was that i wanted tkinter and it wasn't located
during the configure step -- i'm assuming the already-installed
tkinter-2.6 is not sufficient, so if someone wants to suggest how to
get tkinter in there (probably from newer tarball, i'm guessing), that
would be useful.  thanks.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================

From Samba30i at aim.com  Thu May 21 09:32:55 2009
From: Samba30i at aim.com (Greg)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:32:55 +1000
Subject: python-3.1
In-Reply-To: <4A15142A.6020806@fedoraproject.org>
References: <a1b313a10905210051r44db40b7ne42875c460a473a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A15142A.6020806@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4A151FC7.9070805@aim.com>

On 21/05/2009 6:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/21/2009 01:21 PM, Rob Healey wrote:
>    
>> Greetings:
>>
>> I am not certain of the release schedule for python, but is this a
>> possibility for F11?  Or possibly F12?
>>      
> Python 3.x is incompatible with Python 2.x and basically will break the
> world. That is certainly not suitable for Fedora 11 about to be released
> in a week. Unlikely for Fedora 12 as well. Basically unless there is a
> strong adoption from upstream projects using Python, it is going to get
> postponed for a long time.
>
> Rahul
>
>    
wont python3.x be needed for Gnome3 adoption?



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 21 09:40:18 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 15:10:18 +0530
Subject: python-3.1
In-Reply-To: <4A151FC7.9070805@aim.com>
References: <a1b313a10905210051r44db40b7ne42875c460a473a3@mail.gmail.com>	<4A15142A.6020806@fedoraproject.org>
	<4A151FC7.9070805@aim.com>
Message-ID: <4A152182.3020505@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/21/2009 03:02 PM, Greg wrote:

> wont python3.x be needed for Gnome3 adoption?

I see no connection between them. Where did you get that information?

Rahul



From drago01 at gmail.com  Thu May 21 09:36:02 2009
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:36:02 +0200
Subject: python-3.1
In-Reply-To: <4A151FC7.9070805@aim.com>
References: <a1b313a10905210051r44db40b7ne42875c460a473a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A15142A.6020806@fedoraproject.org> <4A151FC7.9070805@aim.com>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0905210236j2c498d8dq2021a55e8018f97d@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Greg <Samba30i at aim.com> wrote:
> On 21/05/2009 6:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>
>> On 05/21/2009 01:21 PM, Rob Healey wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Greetings:
>>>
>>> I am not certain of the release schedule for python, but is this a
>>> possibility for F11? ?Or possibly F12?
>>>
>>
>> Python 3.x is incompatible with Python 2.x and basically will break the
>> world. That is certainly not suitable for Fedora 11 about to be released
>> in a week. Unlikely for Fedora 12 as well. Basically unless there is a
>> strong adoption from upstream projects using Python, it is going to get
>> postponed for a long time.
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>>
>
> wont python3.x be needed for Gnome3 adoption?

python3.x has nothing to do with gnome 3.
dunno where you got that from.



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Thu May 21 09:39:43 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:39:43 +0100
Subject: python-3.1
In-Reply-To: <4A151FC7.9070805@aim.com>
References: <a1b313a10905210051r44db40b7ne42875c460a473a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A15142A.6020806@fedoraproject.org> <4A151FC7.9070805@aim.com>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0905210239g7da4f31fk3e689d428686707f@mail.gmail.com>

>> Python 3.x is incompatible with Python 2.x and basically will break the
>> world. That is certainly not suitable for Fedora 11 about to be released
>> in a week. Unlikely for Fedora 12 as well. Basically unless there is a
>> strong adoption from upstream projects using Python, it is going to get
>> postponed for a long time.
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>>
>
> wont python3.x be needed for Gnome3 adoption?

No. Its not been mentioned anywhere and python isn't a gnome
dependency anyway. There are python bindings that might look at moving
to or supporting python3 but its not a core gnome dep.

Peter



From Samba30i at aim.com  Thu May 21 09:43:37 2009
From: Samba30i at aim.com (Greg)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:43:37 +1000
Subject: python-3.1
In-Reply-To: <4A152182.3020505@fedoraproject.org>
References: <a1b313a10905210051r44db40b7ne42875c460a473a3@mail.gmail.com>	<4A15142A.6020806@fedoraproject.org>	<4A151FC7.9070805@aim.com>
	<4A152182.3020505@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4A152249.1040000@aim.com>

On 21/05/2009 7:40 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/21/2009 03:02 PM, Greg wrote:
>
>    
>> wont python3.x be needed for Gnome3 adoption?
>>      
> I see no connection between them. Where did you get that information?
>
> Rahul
>
>    
i didnt, im asking you



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Thu May 21 10:32:21 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 18:32:21 +0800
Subject: /etc/limits.conf applying changes without reboot
In-Reply-To: <53250.58226.qm@web27901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <53250.58226.qm@web27901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A152DB5.3090904@herakles.homelinux.org>

omar naas wrote:
> Fedora lovers.
> 
> Is there anyway to apply the changes to /etc/security/limits.conf without rebooting my machine?
> 
> Many thanks indeed
> Omar
> 
Why do you think that is not happening?

-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From king_rero at yahoo.co.uk  Thu May 21 10:42:23 2009
From: king_rero at yahoo.co.uk (omar naas)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:42:23 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: /etc/limits.conf applying changes without reboot
In-Reply-To: <4A152DB5.3090904@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <53250.58226.qm@web27901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<4A152DB5.3090904@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <395340.24753.qm@web27904.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>



I guess it's something to do with the kernel, right!




________________________________
From: John Summerfield <debian at herakles.homelinux.org>
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, 21 May, 2009 12:32:21
Subject: Re: /etc/limits.conf applying changes without reboot

omar naas wrote:
> Fedora lovers.
> 
> Is there anyway to apply the changes to /etc/security/limits.conf without rebooting my machine?
> 
> Many thanks indeed
> Omar
> 
Why do you think that is not happening?

-- 
Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)

-- fedora-test-list mailing list
fedora-test-list at redhat.com
To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/8349a7db/attachment.htm>

From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Thu May 21 10:44:18 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 04:44:18 -0600
Subject: Fedora11 64bit flash not working for me.
In-Reply-To: <gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:16 +0000, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Lawrence E. Graves, Tue, 19 May 2009 13:02:32 -0600:
> > You must install at the root level.  Extract file libflashplayer.so type
> > nautilus from in terminal root, go to usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins and
> > insert in that file and you got it.
> 
> I would stress this ... installing libflashplayer.so somewhere in 
> ~/.mozilla WON'T WORK, it is known and intentional.
> 
> Mat?j
> Did you run mozilla-plugins -i -g -v?
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>




From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Thu May 21 11:14:56 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 04:14:56 -0700
Subject: Python-3.1
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905210414h2efca4dwa4fd516cc915e69f@mail.gmail.com>

Giresch:

Thank you for the information.  Do you know when the feature will be decided
for Fedora12 now that F11 is almost out the door???

Sincerely,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/9d46ed46/attachment.htm>

From limb at jcomserv.net  Thu May 21 11:56:50 2009
From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:56:50 -0500
Subject: squid-3.1
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10905210049r6e950dc3t2191d1cb91850bec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905210049r6e950dc3t2191d1cb91850bec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A154182.6050301@jcomserv.net>

Rob Healey wrote:
> Greetings:
>
> I know that I posted a similar email in the short recent past about 
> this same software version, but I never did see a response within the 
> next week after it...
>
> I would like to know if squid-3.1 is schedduled for Fedora11 or not???
>
> Sincerely,
> Rob G. Healey
>
Given that the current builds in F-11 and devel are still 3.0, and F-11 
GA is in just under 2 weeks, I'd say that the answer would be no.  You 
might want to check with the maintainer, Jiri Skala, for plans for F-12.

-J

-- 
in your fear, speak only peace
in your fear, seek only love

-d. bowie



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Thu May 21 12:08:51 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:08:51 -0600
Subject: Fedora11 64bit flash not working for me.
In-Reply-To: <1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 04:44 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:16 +0000, Matej Cepl wrote:
> > Lawrence E. Graves, Tue, 19 May 2009 13:02:32 -0600:
> > > You must install at the root level.  Extract file libflashplayer.so type
> > > nautilus from in terminal root, go to usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins and
> > > insert in that file and you got it.
> > 
> > I would stress this ... installing libflashplayer.so somewhere in 
> > ~/.mozilla WON'T WORK, it is known and intentional.
> > 
> > Mat?j
> > Did you run mozilla-plugins -i -g -v?

I think he meant that some people might try to get this to work by
placing the libflashplayer.so file in their own, personal mozilla home
directory:

/home/<user's home directory>/.mozilla/plugins

The file must specifically be placed in

/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins

If you put it in your home directory, it won't work, and it won't work
because Mozilla is intentionally designed such that this won't work.

The mozilla-plugin-config command is used to inventory and "wrap"
various plugins for use. While originally intended for wrapping 32-bit
plugins for use with 64-bit Mozilla, it also can be used to wrap 64-bit
plugins in a similar way. It's not absolutely necessary to do in this
case, but it definitely doesn't hurt. Some say it's still a good idea to
do.

Cheers,

Chris

-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein






From mcepl at redhat.com  Thu May 21 12:13:32 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:13:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Fedora11 64bit flash not working for me.
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <gv3ghc$5d2$7@ger.gmane.org>

Christopher A. Williams, Thu, 21 May 2009 06:08:51 -0600:
> If you put it in your home directory, it won't work, and it won't work
> because Mozilla is intentionally designed such that this won't work.

Yes, that's exactly what I wanted to say ... too little coffee in the 
morning. :)

And the intentionality is on the side of Fedora maintainers not upstream. 
Just to be clear on this.

> The mozilla-plugin-config command is used to inventory and "wrap"
> various plugins for use. While originally intended for wrapping 32-bit
> plugins for use with 64-bit Mozilla, it also can be used to wrap 64-bit
> plugins in a similar way. It's not absolutely necessary to do in this
> case, but it definitely doesn't hurt. Some say it's still a good idea to
> do.

And meanwhile mozilla-plugin-config is run automatically on firefox 
startup.

Mat?j



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Thu May 21 12:49:18 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:49:18 -0600
Subject: Fedora11 64bit flash not working for me.
In-Reply-To: <1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 06:08 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 04:44 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:16 +0000, Matej Cepl wrote:
> > > Lawrence E. Graves, Tue, 19 May 2009 13:02:32 -0600:
> > > > You must install at the root level.  Extract file libflashplayer.so type
> > > > nautilus from in terminal root, go to usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins and
> > > > insert in that file and you got it.
> > > 
> > > I would stress this ... installing libflashplayer.so somewhere in 
> > > ~/.mozilla WON'T WORK, it is known and intentional.
> > > 
> > > Mat?j
> > > Did you run mozilla-plugins -i -g -v?
> 
> I think he meant that some people might try to get this to work by
> placing the libflashplayer.so file in their own, personal mozilla home
> directory:
> 
> /home/<user's home directory>/.mozilla/plugins
> 
> The file must specifically be placed in
> 
> /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
> 
> If you put it in your home directory, it won't work, and it won't work
> because Mozilla is intentionally designed such that this won't work.
> 
> The mozilla-plugin-config command is used to inventory and "wrap"
> various plugins for use. While originally intended for wrapping 32-bit
> plugins for use with 64-bit Mozilla, it also can be used to wrap 64-bit
> plugins in a similar way. It's not absolutely necessary to do in this
> case, but it definitely doesn't hurt. Some say it's still a good idea to
> do.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 
> -- 
> ======================
> "Only two things are infinite,
> the universe and human stupidity,
> and I'm not sure about the former."
> 
> -- Albert Einstein
> 
> Thanks Chris, somehow I knew you would come to my rescue. It's hard for me to put what I know in words.
> 
> 
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>




From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Thu May 21 13:04:40 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:04:40 -0600
Subject: No more graphical boot on Intel chip laptop
Message-ID: <1242911080.3280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

After the last couple of updates with F11 Preview, I no longer am seeing
the graphical bootup with Plymouth. I'm only getting the text mode
startup display before eventually loading X and going to a login screen.

I thought maybe this was just a temporary thing, but I still seem to
have the problem after a couple of additional changes to come along.

Anyone else seeing this, or am I alone on it?

Cheers,

Chris

-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein






From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Thu May 21 13:06:40 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:06:40 -0600
Subject: Fedora11 64bit flash not working for me.
In-Reply-To: <gv3ghc$5d2$7@ger.gmane.org>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv3ghc$5d2$7@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1242911200.3280.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 12:13 +0000, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Christopher A. Williams, Thu, 21 May 2009 06:08:51 -0600:
> > If you put it in your home directory, it won't work, and it won't work
> > because Mozilla is intentionally designed such that this won't work.
> 
> Yes, that's exactly what I wanted to say ... too little coffee in the 
> morning. :)
> 
> And the intentionality is on the side of Fedora maintainers not upstream. 
> Just to be clear on this.
> 
> > The mozilla-plugin-config command is used to inventory and "wrap"
> > various plugins for use. While originally intended for wrapping 32-bit
> > plugins for use with 64-bit Mozilla, it also can be used to wrap 64-bit
> > plugins in a similar way. It's not absolutely necessary to do in this
> > case, but it definitely doesn't hurt. Some say it's still a good idea to
> > do.
> 
> And meanwhile mozilla-plugin-config is run automatically on firefox 
> startup.

Good to know! That saves me (and everyone else) a step.

Cheers,

Chris


--
=============================
"The most effective way to do it is to do it."

--Amelia Earhart, American Aviation Pioneer



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Thu May 21 13:13:01 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:13:01 -0600
Subject: Boot up
Message-ID: <1242911581.6874.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Yes Chris, I experienced that quite awhile back, but I thought it was a
part of the new speed in which F11 would boot up.
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Thu May 21 13:31:51 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:01:51 -0430
Subject: Boot up
In-Reply-To: <1242911581.6874.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242911581.6874.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242912711.7830.12.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 07:13 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> Yes Chris, I experienced that quite awhile back, but I thought it was a
> part of the new speed in which F11 would boot up.
> -- 
> Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>

This appears to be in reply to something someone (apparently called
Chris) asked somewhere at some time. Using a conventional reply format,
with the appropriate headers, might make it possible to understand what
you're talking about.

poc



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 21 13:40:19 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:40:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090521 changes
Message-ID: <20090521134019.265D41B8003@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Thu May 21 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

DeviceKit-disks-004-3.fc11
--------------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 David Zeuthen <davidz at redhat.com> - 004-3.fc11
- Avoid checking whether device is ATA SMART capable if the device reports
  removable media (#494932)


e2fsprogs-1.41.4-10.fc11
------------------------
* Wed May 20 2009 Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com> 1.41.4-10
- Fix minimum resize calculation and enforce it (#499452)


fedora-logos-11.0.6-1.fc11
--------------------------
* Mon May 18 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 11.0.6-1
- drop "lowres" image, saves a small amount of diskspace


kernel-2.6.29.3-155.fc11
------------------------
* Wed May 20 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.3-154
- disable e820 backports, causes problems in some places, bz#499396.
  linux-2.6-e820-save-restore-edi-ebp.patch
  linux-2.6-e820-acpi3-bios-workaround.patch
  linux-2.6-e820-guard-against-pre-acpi3.patch

* Wed May 20 2009 <krh at redhat.com> - 2.6.29.3-155
- Add drm-intel-i8xx-cursors.patch to fix cursors on i8xx desktop
  chipsets (#488980).
- Add drm-intel-vmalloc.patch as part of the fix for #498131.

* Tue May 19 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.3-151
- net-revert-forcedeth-power-down-phy-when-interface-is.patch: revert only
  hunks that powered down the phy. fixes rhbz#501249.

* Tue May 19 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.3-153
- drm-intel-gem-use-dma32-on-pae.patch: Force GEM allocations to be DMA32
  when using PAE. This should fix bz#493526. Leave the gfp flags for every
  other chipset (radeon, really...) unset so we don't fribble the flags.
- agp-set_memory_ucwb.patch: comment out rejecting hunk that's no longer
  necessary (forcing gem on with highmem64g.)

* Mon May 18 2009 Josef Bacik <josef at toxicpanda.com>
- fix page_mkwrite in btrfs

* Mon May 18 2009 Justin M. Forbes <jforbes at redhat.com>
- xen/blkfront: fix warning when deleting gendisk on unplug/shutdown. BZ# 499621
- xen/blkfront: allow xenbus state transition to closing->closed when
  not connected

* Mon May 18 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com>
- increase-MAX_LOCKDEP_ENTRIES.patch: suck in upstream fix
  d80c19df5fcceb8c741e96f09f275c2da719efef

* Mon May 18 2009 Justin M. Forbes <jforbes at redhat.com>
- Disable GB pages for Xen guests BZ# 499592

* Mon May 18 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com>
- Expose whether VGA devices were active at boot or not in sysfs.

* Mon May 18 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com>
- drm-intel-include-965gme-pci-id.patch: add patch patch from git head to
  treat 965GME like 965GM.


module-init-tools-3.7-9.fc11
----------------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> - 3.7-9
- Move /etc/modprobe.d/anaconda if it exists (#496261)

* Mon May 11 2009 Jon Masters <jcm at redhat.com> - 3.7-8 (pre9)
- Rename /etc/modprobe.conf to /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf on upgrade (#488768)


nautilus-2.26.3-1.fc11
----------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 Tomas Bzatek <tbzatek at redhat.com> - 2.26.3-1
- Update to 2.26.3


pungi-2.0.15-1.fc11
-------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 2.0.15-1
- Split media on demand rather than via guess work.


selinux-policy-3.6.12-39.fc11
-----------------------------
* Wed May 20 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-39
- Allow fprintd to access sys_ptrace
- Add sandbox policy

* Mon May 18 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-38
- Add varnishd policy

* Thu May 14 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-37
- Fixes for kpropd

* Tue May 12 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.6.12-36
- Allow brctl to r/w tun_tap_device_t


xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.1.0-7.fc11
-----------------------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.1.0-7
- Update synaptics-1.1.0-nograb-fail.patch: bad return value led to
  non-synaptics devices to be treated as synaptics devices (#499792)

* Mon May 18 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.1.0-6
- synaptics-1.1.0-synclient-accel-max.patch: update synclient's maximum
  value for AccelFactor to 1.0.


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 9









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Thu May 21 13:45:54 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:45:54 -0600
Subject: Boot up
In-Reply-To: <1242912711.7830.12.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1242911581.6874.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242912711.7830.12.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <1242913554.6874.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:01 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 07:13 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > Yes Chris, I experienced that quite awhile back, but I thought it was a
> > part of the new speed in which F11 would boot up.
> > -- 
> > Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>
> 
> This appears to be in reply to something someone (apparently called
> Chris) asked somewhere at some time. Using a conventional reply format,
> with the appropriate headers, might make it possible to understand what
> you're talking about.
> 
> poc
> 
I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking. I don't speak the language quite so good,
so when someone says something about a problem I am having, I just
respond in agreement.  If you will look back at Chris's original entry
you will understand what it is I trying to say. 




-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From kdekorte at gmail.com  Thu May 21 13:49:22 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:49:22 -0600
Subject: No more graphical boot on Intel chip laptop
In-Reply-To: <1242911080.3280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242911080.3280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A155BE2.2060702@gmail.com>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 05/21/2009 07:04 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> After the last couple of updates with F11 Preview, I no longer am seeing
> the graphical bootup with Plymouth. I'm only getting the text mode
> startup display before eventually loading X and going to a login screen.
> 
> I thought maybe this was just a temporary thing, but I still seem to
> have the problem after a couple of additional changes to come along.
> 
> Anyone else seeing this, or am I alone on it?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 

Chris, I don't see it either on my G35 based chip.

Kevin


- -- 
Get my public GnuPG key from
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7D0BD5D1
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iEYEARECAAYFAkoVW+EACgkQ6w2kMH0L1dErLACgkBhzp8kmnRXpgyrlu56Hu5Oc
Hg4AnifQB/SEYZIczQIEzi1fU37B+9Uv
=lGia
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----



From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Thu May 21 14:19:42 2009
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:19:42 -0400
Subject: Python-3.1
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10905210414h2efca4dwa4fd516cc915e69f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905210414h2efca4dwa4fd516cc915e69f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242915582.23006.146.camel@ignacio.ignacio.lan>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 04:14 -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
> Thank you for the information.  Do you know when the feature will be
> decided for Fedora12 now that F11 is almost out the door???

Six months is not enough time to make sure that all the code in Fedora
is 3.x-safe. I don't envision Fedora switching any time before F15.

Having said that, I'd like to see a push for getting Fedora to work with
the various __future__ imports already available.

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/0c5d25d3/attachment.sig>

From bruno at wolff.to  Thu May 21 14:04:44 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:04:44 -0500
Subject: No more graphical boot on Intel chip laptop
In-Reply-To: <1242911080.3280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242911080.3280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090521140444.GA24168@wolff.to>

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 07:04:40 -0600,
  "Christopher A. Williams" <chriswfedora at cawllc.com> wrote:
> After the last couple of updates with F11 Preview, I no longer am seeing
> the graphical bootup with Plymouth. I'm only getting the text mode
> startup display before eventually loading X and going to a login screen.
> 
> I thought maybe this was just a temporary thing, but I still seem to
> have the problem after a couple of additional changes to come along.
> 
> Anyone else seeing this, or am I alone on it?

Yes, but intentionally. Are 'rhgb' and 'quiet' still list as kernel
parameters in grub.conf?

I remove them in order to see boot messages.



From bruno at wolff.to  Thu May 21 14:12:35 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:12:35 -0500
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1242852082.8848.156.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1242768563.3029.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090520133423.GB27133@wolff.to>
	<1242852082.8848.156.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20090521141235.GB24168@wolff.to>

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 13:41:22 -0700,
  Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> Are all the issues you're worried enough to consider critical marked as
> F11Blocker? Fixes for issues that are not set to block release will not
> be accepted for GA.

As I said to Jesse's query, it was more seeing a number of changes going in
for important packages so close to going gold that was worrying me.
The one current bug (501198) that I had still been concerned about, seems to be
relatively minor in impact and should NOT be a blocker (IMO).

Spin building is now working nicely.



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Thu May 21 14:32:06 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:32:06 -0600
Subject: No more graphical boot on Intel chip laptop
In-Reply-To: <20090521140444.GA24168@wolff.to>
References: <1242911080.3280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090521140444.GA24168@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <1242916326.4084.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:04 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 07:04:40 -0600,
>   "Christopher A. Williams" <chriswfedora at cawllc.com> wrote:
> > After the last couple of updates with F11 Preview, I no longer am seeing
> > the graphical bootup with Plymouth. I'm only getting the text mode
> > startup display before eventually loading X and going to a login screen.
> > 
> > I thought maybe this was just a temporary thing, but I still seem to
> > have the problem after a couple of additional changes to come along.
> > 
> > Anyone else seeing this, or am I alone on it?
> 
> Yes, but intentionally. Are 'rhgb' and 'quiet' still list as kernel
> parameters in grub.conf?
> 
> I remove them in order to see boot messages.

Short answer: Yes

Here's the corresponding entry in my grub.conf:
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.3-140.fc11.x86_64 ro
root=/dev/mapper/vg_chrislaptop-lv_root rhgb quiet

If I were to remove "rhgb quiet", the startup messages should be
displayed. I wouldn't see the text mode Plymouth startup (the light
blue / dark blue / white status line at the bottom of the screen).

Since I do see the text mode plugin, I'm assuming Plymouth no longer
likes something about my Intel display.

Perhaps it's time to Bugzilla...

Cheers,

Chris

PS: And, yes, Chris (OK - Christopher) is my real name. It's more than
apparently such as alleged in another thread... :)

--
======================
"If you are calm while all around you is chaos,
then you probably haven't fully understood the magnitude of the
situation."

--Unknown





From fedora at leemhuis.info  Thu May 21 14:51:26 2009
From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:51:26 +0200
Subject: No more graphical boot on Intel chip laptop
In-Reply-To: <1242916326.4084.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242911080.3280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<20090521140444.GA24168@wolff.to>
	<1242916326.4084.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A156A6E.3080601@leemhuis.info>

On 21.05.2009 16:32, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:04 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 07:04:40 -0600,
>
> Perhaps it's time to Bugzilla...

I'd had some trouble as well, but it was afaics a plymouth problem that 
was fixed with a plymouth update a few days.

So Rebuilding the initrd might fix it. But there is a new kernel out for 
rawhide anyway. I'd say: try that before you go to bugzilla.

Just my 2 cent.

CU
knurd



From stickster at gmail.com  Thu May 21 14:53:18 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:53:18 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <20090520203156.GA528@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905170817400.19821@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A12889F.6000207@redhat.com>
	<20090519165127.GM2271@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242768957.5008.8.camel@adam.local.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905191741550.11305@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A133F98.7010805@hi.is> <1242778039.8848.11.camel@adam.local.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905200041460.16620@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242796150.8848.57.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090520203156.GA528@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090521145318.GL6762@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 04:31:56PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:09:10PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 00:42 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > > On Tue, 19 May 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 23:24 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> > > > > On 05/19/2009 09:44 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > > > > >   for the display, mine's set for 30 minutes but it's *absolutely* not
> > > > > > a function of that time value since, as others have mentioned, the
> > > > > > screen can go black totally arbitrarily, like when i'm literally in
> > > > > > the middle of typing something.  can i assume that's pretty much
> > > > > > what's happening to some of the others who have confirmed this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > Yup
> > > > >
> > > > > 30 minutes here same symptom
> > > >
> > > > Can you guys set it to 'never' and see if the behaviour changes?
> > > 
> > >   ok, that's just the "display" setting under System -> Preferences ->
> > > Power Management,  right?
> > 
> > Yup.
> 
> Sorry to hit this thread late.  My setting was already "never."
> 
> I filed a new bug, and the time to error was a little under 4 hours
> IIRC.
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601

By the way, I apologize for the inadvertent thread pollution.  My
issue is clearly different from the original issue, although it might
be related.

-- 
Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
  http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Thu May 21 14:54:23 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:54:23 -0600
Subject: Updates to be installed
Message-ID: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>

When can we expected the updates to be signed?  Just wondering.  Also
when may I expect the mouse problem to be fixed.  It seems to have went
away in the discussions.  I am still having the problem.  The ability to
switch from left to right-handed use is working on every other OS I run
on my desktop but F11.  I also can't get sound in my Vmware Workstation.
I hope I am not being pushy, but all of these things worked fine in F10.
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From stickster at gmail.com  Thu May 21 15:01:59 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:01:59 -0400
Subject: Python-3.1
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10905210414h2efca4dwa4fd516cc915e69f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905210414h2efca4dwa4fd516cc915e69f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090521150159.GM6762@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 04:14:56AM -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
> Giresch:
> 
> Thank you for the information.? Do you know when the feature will be decided
> for Fedora12 now that F11 is almost out the door???

I don't think we'll be considering this for Fedora 12.  Possibly for
Fedora 13 or later -- it would take at least that long to get all the
Python stuff we use at the heart of the distro sorted out.  Not to
mention the work that would echo out to all the other package
maintainers.  This is a very big task and would probably not be
accomplished in just a month or two.

You can see the F12 feature list growing here at the expected page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/FeatureList

Paul



From wwoods at redhat.com  Thu May 21 15:09:26 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:09:26 -0400
Subject: No more graphical boot on Intel chip laptop
In-Reply-To: <1242916326.4084.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242911080.3280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090521140444.GA24168@wolff.to>
	<1242916326.4084.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242918566.17097.36.camel@metroid>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:32 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:

> Since I do see the text mode plugin, I'm assuming Plymouth no longer
> likes something about my Intel display.

Not necessarily. This can also happen if you don't have the requested
plymouth plugin/theme available. If you installed during the Preview,
there may have been some mixups with the spinfinity plugin package(s)
that left you missing some pieces. Try this to get the new theme
working:

# yum install plymouth-system-theme
# plymouth-set-default-theme charge
# /usr/libexec/plymouth/plymouth-update-initrd

For details see:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499940
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500994 

-w



From john5342 at googlemail.com  Thu May 21 15:22:35 2009
From: john5342 at googlemail.com (John5342)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:22:35 +0100
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
In-Reply-To: <a9274eb10905210152q7e8463f4q69964b4ba52dc71b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain> 
	<a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A146CF1.40103@tmr.com> <4A146D69.308@tmr.com>
	<4A1478D1.4090602@redhat.com> 
	<a9274eb10905210152q7e8463f4q69964b4ba52dc71b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6dc6523c0905210822q3ac45543v4702c64ef8988c08@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/21 Paul Black <paul-fedora at saturnine.org.uk>:
> 2009/5/20 Tom "spot" Callaway:
>> On 32-bit x86
>> ===
>> Pick One:
>> * i586 (good)
>> * i686 (better, but only if your hardware supports i686)
>
> <snip>
>
>> On a Multilib system (32bit and 64bit libs installed side by side)
>> ===
>> * Pick One from the 32-bit x86 list (i586 or i686)
>> * Pick One from the 64-bit x86_64 list (x86_64)
>
> If, on a 32-bit system, it's better to have the i686 version if
> possible, why is there an i586 version for 64-bit systems?

If i remember right its because 32bit libs in the 64bit repo are
simply copies (or hardlinks) of the 32bit repo. Therefore everything
that is in the 32bit repo is in the 64bit repo including glibc.i586
which makes it a possible choice despite the fact that nobody would
deliberately choose i586 over i686 on x86_64 since most (if not all)
x86_64 support i686.

-- 
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary
and those who don't...



From sd at onecool.com  Thu May 21 15:41:11 2009
From: sd at onecool.com (Steve Dowe)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:41:11 +0100
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
In-Reply-To: <6dc6523c0905210822q3ac45543v4702c64ef8988c08@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>
	<a9274eb10905210152q7e8463f4q69964b4ba52dc71b@mail.gmail.com>
	<6dc6523c0905210822q3ac45543v4702c64ef8988c08@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905211641.12135.sd@onecool.com>


On Thursday 21 May 2009 16:22:35 John5342 wrote:

> If i remember right its because 32bit libs in the 64bit repo are
> simply copies (or hardlinks) of the 32bit repo. Therefore everything
> that is in the 32bit repo is in the 64bit repo including glibc.i586
> which makes it a possible choice despite the fact that nobody would
> deliberately choose i586 over i686 on x86_64 since most (if not all)
> x86_64 support i686.

If you're intending on running an GUI application using 32-bit libs, you may 
also need to install some X components.

su -c 'yum install glibc.i686 libXext.i586' should see to both, including 
dependencies.

Steve

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/1225990e/attachment.htm>

From cpanceac at gmail.com  Thu May 21 15:53:50 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 18:53:50 +0300
Subject: No more graphical boot on Intel chip laptop
In-Reply-To: <1242918566.17097.36.camel@metroid>
References: <1242911080.3280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090521140444.GA24168@wolff.to>
	<1242916326.4084.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242918566.17097.36.camel@metroid>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905210853u44e444qeb4ca925c5c1d083@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/21 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com>

> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:32 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>
> > Since I do see the text mode plugin, I'm assuming Plymouth no longer
> > likes something about my Intel display.
>
> Not necessarily. This can also happen if you don't have the requested
> plymouth plugin/theme available. If you installed during the Preview,
> there may have been some mixups with the spinfinity plugin package(s)
> that left you missing some pieces. Try this to get the new theme
> working:
>
> # yum install plymouth-system-theme
> # plymouth-set-default-theme charge
> # /usr/libexec/plymouth/plymouth-update-initrd
>

thank you, this really worked! however, on shutdown there's still no
graphivcs ...

>
> For details see:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499940
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500994
>
> -w
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/66530790/attachment.htm>

From kdekorte at gmail.com  Thu May 21 16:03:57 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:03:57 -0600
Subject: No more graphical boot on Intel chip laptop
In-Reply-To: <1242918566.17097.36.camel@metroid>
References: <1242911080.3280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090521140444.GA24168@wolff.to>
	<1242916326.4084.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242918566.17097.36.camel@metroid>
Message-ID: <4A157B6D.8090607@gmail.com>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 05/21/2009 09:09 AM, Will Woods wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:32 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> 
>> Since I do see the text mode plugin, I'm assuming Plymouth no longer
>> likes something about my Intel display.
> 
> Not necessarily. This can also happen if you don't have the requested
> plymouth plugin/theme available. If you installed during the Preview,
> there may have been some mixups with the spinfinity plugin package(s)
> that left you missing some pieces. Try this to get the new theme
> working:
> 
> # yum install plymouth-system-theme
> # plymouth-set-default-theme charge
> # /usr/libexec/plymouth/plymouth-update-initrd
> 
> For details see:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499940
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500994 
> 
> -w
> 


Thanks Will, that did the trick for me as well. I even get the graphics
on shutdown.

Kevin

- -- 
Get my public GnuPG key from
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7D0BD5D1
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iEYEARECAAYFAkoVe20ACgkQ6w2kMH0L1dHXEwCfShzQOmqV9IoLO+66TfYtzeWD
nu8AnR6F0Ou9Yllc4owuW92h78llCMom
=PJHM
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Thu May 21 16:04:07 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:04:07 -0600
Subject: No more graphical boot on Intel chip laptop
In-Reply-To: <1242918566.17097.36.camel@metroid>
References: <1242911080.3280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090521140444.GA24168@wolff.to>
	<1242916326.4084.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242918566.17097.36.camel@metroid>
Message-ID: <1242921847.3474.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 11:09 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:32 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> 
> > Since I do see the text mode plugin, I'm assuming Plymouth no longer
> > likes something about my Intel display.
> 
> Not necessarily. This can also happen if you don't have the requested
> plymouth plugin/theme available. If you installed during the Preview,
> there may have been some mixups with the spinfinity plugin package(s)
> that left you missing some pieces. Try this to get the new theme
> working:
> 
> # yum install plymouth-system-theme
> # plymouth-set-default-theme charge
> # /usr/libexec/plymouth/plymouth-update-initrd
> 
> For details see:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499940
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500994 

...now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about!

Excellent answer and solution - worked like a champ! I now have both
startup and shutdown themes working.

You 'da man...

Cheers,

Chris

-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein





From cpanceac at gmail.com  Thu May 21 16:14:16 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:14:16 +0300
Subject: No more graphical boot on Intel chip laptop
In-Reply-To: <1242921847.3474.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242911080.3280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090521140444.GA24168@wolff.to>
	<1242916326.4084.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242918566.17097.36.camel@metroid>
	<1242921847.3474.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905210914w2c3e4e83r3c17a445a10f3d73@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/21 Christopher A. Williams <chriswfedora at cawllc.com>

> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 11:09 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:32 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> >
> > > Since I do see the text mode plugin, I'm assuming Plymouth no longer
> > > likes something about my Intel display.
> >
> > Not necessarily. This can also happen if you don't have the requested
> > plymouth plugin/theme available. If you installed during the Preview,
> > there may have been some mixups with the spinfinity plugin package(s)
> > that left you missing some pieces. Try this to get the new theme
> > working:
> >
> > # yum install plymouth-system-theme
> > # plymouth-set-default-theme charge
> > # /usr/libexec/plymouth/plymouth-update-initrd
> >
> > For details see:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499940
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500994
>
> ...now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about!
>
> Excellent answer and solution - worked like a champ! I now have both
> startup and shutdown themes working.


indeed, it seems that after latest updates shutdown is graphical too.

>
>
> You 'da man...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> --
> ======================
> "Only two things are infinite,
> the universe and human stupidity,
> and I'm not sure about the former."
>
> -- Albert Einstein
>
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/2080a594/attachment.htm>

From caf at omen.com  Thu May 21 16:14:15 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:14:15 -0700
Subject: System>Admin>Services cannot enable dhcpd
Message-ID: <1242922455.2558.4.camel@omen.com>

"service dhcpd start" works but enabling dhcpd with the applet does not
work.
-- 
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R <caf at omen.com>
Omen Technology INC



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu May 21 16:18:24 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:18:24 -0700
Subject: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242922704.3029.93.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:54 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> 
> When can we expected the updates to be signed?  Just wondering.

Updates should be signed now.  If they aren't, we in release engineering
have errored in our duties.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/0fe3c963/attachment.sig>

From riku.seppala at kymp.net  Thu May 21 16:44:43 2009
From: riku.seppala at kymp.net (=?UTF-8?B?UmlrdSBTZXBww6Rsw6Q=?=)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:44:43 +0300
Subject: Fedora11 64bit flash not working for me.
In-Reply-To: <1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>

Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 06:08 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 04:44 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
>>     
>>> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:16 +0000, Matej Cepl wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Lawrence E. Graves, Tue, 19 May 2009 13:02:32 -0600:
>>>>         
>>>>> You must install at the root level.  Extract file libflashplayer.so type
>>>>> nautilus from in terminal root, go to usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins and
>>>>> insert in that file and you got it.
>>>>>           
>>>> I would stress this ... installing libflashplayer.so somewhere in 
>>>> ~/.mozilla WON'T WORK, it is known and intentional.
>>>>
>>>> Mat?j
>>>> Did you run mozilla-plugins -i -g -v?
>>>>         
>> I think he meant that some people might try to get this to work by
>> placing the libflashplayer.so file in their own, personal mozilla home
>> directory:
>>
>> /home/<user's home directory>/.mozilla/plugins
>>
>> The file must specifically be placed in
>>
>> /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
>>
>> If you put it in your home directory, it won't work, and it won't work
>> because Mozilla is intentionally designed such that this won't work.
>>
>>     
Am I doing something wrong because I have libflashplayer.so in my 
~/.mozilla/plugins and it works just fine?

Riku



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu May 21 17:04:26 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:04:26 -0400
Subject: Will add a few fedora upgrade test cases, your feedback would
 be welcome
In-Reply-To: <49F0372D.9060107@redhat.com>
References: <49F0372D.9060107@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1242925466.16265.20.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 17:38 +0800, Liam wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> A few fedora upgrade test cases were created.These cases will test the fedora system upgrade with local CD/DVD.Get more details from: 
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Upgrade_system 
> 
> Any suggestion or question,please feel free to reply. Your feedback would be welcome. 

Greetings Liam,

While executing your tests for F11 [1], I came upon bug#501063.  After
discussing this defect further with the anaconda-devel crew it seems in
both the "update existing bootloader" [2] and "create new
bootloader" [3] the verification steps may need updates.  

If I understand correctly, QA:Testcase_Anaconda_Upgrade_New_Bootloader
will remove any older kernels and create an entirely new
{grub,zipl,yaboot,elilo}.conf.  

QA:Testcase_Anaconda_Upgrade_Update_Bootloader will add a new boot
target for the new kernel, then remove any older kernels along with
their boot targets.  The order matters in that the "update bootloader"
case will retain and local bootloader configuration changes (e.g.
timeout, hiddenmenu) and system-specific kernel args.

I've updated the "QA:Testcase_Anaconda_Upgrade_Update_Bootloader" test
case to add some verification of the bootloader changes.

Thanks,
James


[1]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC_Install_Test_Results#Upgrade_system
[2]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_Upgrade_Update_Bootloader
[3]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_Upgrade_New_Bootloader
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/40216cde/attachment.sig>

From beland at alum.mit.edu  Thu May 21 17:25:28 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:25:28 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
Message-ID: <1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

Based on the recent conversations on this list, I have updated:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash

If you use these instructions and they fail or you can otherwise tell
they are incorrect, please either fix them directly on the wiki or let
me know and I will fix them.

Hopefully this page can become a canonical, well-known resource so we
aren't answering this question a million times.

-B.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 21 18:01:47 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:01:47 -0700
Subject: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <1242922704.3029.93.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242922704.3029.93.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242928907.8848.181.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:18 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:54 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > 
> > When can we expected the updates to be signed?  Just wondering.
> 
> Updates should be signed now.  If they aren't, we in release engineering
> have errored in our duties.

rpcbind still was not signed for me, I updated a few minutes ago.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 21 18:09:18 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:09:18 -0700
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 13:25 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> Based on the recent conversations on this list, I have updated:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
> 
> If you use these instructions and they fail or you can otherwise tell
> they are incorrect, please either fix them directly on the wiki or let
> me know and I will fix them.
> 
> Hopefully this page can become a canonical, well-known resource so we
> aren't answering this question a million times.

As the page is generically named, and Fedora is a project with a strong
emphasis on F/OSS, I would suggest the page should more prominently
discuss and advocate F/OSS alternatives (gnash and swfdec) and position
the Adobe plugin as a fallback for cases where those solutions are not
sufficient. Also, it should refer more specifically to the Adobe plugin
when saying things like "Flash is Non-Free Software". WDYT?
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Thu May 21 18:12:19 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:42:19 -0430
Subject: Boot up
In-Reply-To: <1242913554.6874.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242911581.6874.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242912711.7830.12.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1242913554.6874.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242929539.4016.17.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 07:45 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:01 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 07:13 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > > Yes Chris, I experienced that quite awhile back, but I thought it was a
> > > part of the new speed in which F11 would boot up.
> > > -- 
> > > Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>
> > 
> > This appears to be in reply to something someone (apparently called
> > Chris) asked somewhere at some time. Using a conventional reply format,
> > with the appropriate headers, might make it possible to understand what
> > you're talking about.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking. I don't speak the language quite so good,
> so when someone says something about a problem I am having, I just
> respond in agreement.  If you will look back at Chris's original entry
> you will understand what it is I trying to say. 

No doubt, but the point I was making is that the reader shouldn't have
to go searching for the relevant message to make the connection (even
assuming there's only one person called Chris -- whose email address we
don't know, and which may in fact not even contain the string "Chris" --
who ever posted a message with "Boot up" as the subject). That's why
threading was invented.

poc



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Thu May 21 18:17:45 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:47:45 -0430
Subject: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <1242928907.8848.181.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242922704.3029.93.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242928907.8848.181.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1242929865.4016.19.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 11:01 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:18 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:54 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > > 
> > > When can we expected the updates to be signed?  Just wondering.
> > 
> > Updates should be signed now.  If they aren't, we in release engineering
> > have errored in our duties.
> 
> rpcbind still was not signed for me, I updated a few minutes ago.

I just forged ahead and used "yum --nogpg ..." on each of these. The
real PITA is that yum only tells you about one of them. You install it
as above, then do "yum update" only to find out about the next one,
rinse and repeat.

I guess this is worth a BZ entry.

poc



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Thu May 21 18:24:14 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:24:14 +0300
Subject: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <1242929865.4016.19.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242922704.3029.93.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242928907.8848.181.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1242929865.4016.19.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905211124v2cb7ccf4hfa8354643cdd0be0@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/21 Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan at gmail.com>

> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 11:01 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:18 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:54 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > > >
> > > > When can we expected the updates to be signed?  Just wondering.
> > >
> > > Updates should be signed now.  If they aren't, we in release
> engineering
> > > have errored in our duties.
> >
> > rpcbind still was not signed for me, I updated a few minutes ago.
>
> I just forged ahead and used "yum --nogpg ..." on each of these. The
> real PITA is that yum only tells you about one of them. You install it
> as above, then do "yum update" only to find out about the next one,
> rinse and repeat.


ofc you can
yum update --nogpgcheck

>
>
> I guess this is worth a BZ entry.
>
> poc
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/2637754b/attachment.htm>

From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu May 21 18:35:43 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:35:43 -0700
Subject: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <1242928907.8848.181.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242922704.3029.93.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242928907.8848.181.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1242930943.3217.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 11:01 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:18 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:54 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > > 
> > > When can we expected the updates to be signed?  Just wondering.
> > 
> > Updates should be signed now.  If they aren't, we in release engineering
> > have errored in our duties.
> 
> rpcbind still was not signed for me, I updated a few minutes ago.

From the master mirror:

$
rpmdev-checksig /pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/rpcbind-0.1.7-3.fc11.i586.rpm 
/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/rpcbind-0.1.7-3.fc11.i586.rpm: MISSING KEY - d22e77f2

Since on that machine, nobody has imported the d22e77f2 key,
rpmdev-checksig says that we don't have the key that it is signed with.
Ergo, the package is signed.  Your mirror is out of date.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/4422b6c9/attachment.sig>

From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com  Thu May 21 18:46:19 2009
From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 00:16:19 +0530
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1242931579.3304.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 11:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 13:25 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> > Based on the recent conversations on this list, I have updated:
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
> > 
> > If you use these instructions and they fail or you can otherwise tell
> > they are incorrect, please either fix them directly on the wiki or let
> > me know and I will fix them.
> > 
> > Hopefully this page can become a canonical, well-known resource so we
> > aren't answering this question a million times.
> 
> As the page is generically named, and Fedora is a project with a strong
> emphasis on F/OSS, I would suggest the page should more prominently
> discuss and advocate F/OSS alternatives (gnash and swfdec) and position
> the Adobe plugin as a fallback for cases where those solutions are not
> sufficient. Also, it should refer more specifically to the Adobe plugin
> when saying things like "Flash is Non-Free Software". WDYT?
> -- 
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> http://www.happyassassin.net
> 

i think fedorasolved would be the right place for this page??

-- 
regards,

Ankur






From frankly3d at gmail.com  Thu May 21 19:23:10 2009
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d))
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:23:10 +0100
Subject: Left-Hand Mouse and VMWare was Re: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A15AA1E.9010102@gmail.com>

Lawrence E. Graves wrote:

> <snip> The ability to
> switch from left to right-handed use is working on every other OS I run
> on my desktop but F11.  I also can't get sound in 

What DE are you using.
I am left-Handed, and it works fine on Gnome\F11.
Also worked fine on XFCE\F11 (before MB dies yesterday :(


my Vmware Workstation.
> I hope I am not being pushy, but all of these things worked fine in F10.

VMWare is probably OT?, on this list as it's don't come in a repo.
Maybe: http://www.vmware.com/support/

Frank

-- 
msn: frankly3d  skype: frankly3d
Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List
Still Learning, Unicode where possible



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Thu May 21 19:38:40 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:38:40 -0600
Subject: Left-Hand Mouse and VMWare was Re: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <4A15AA1E.9010102@gmail.com>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A15AA1E.9010102@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242934720.5318.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 20:23 +0100, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote:
> Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> 
> > <snip> The ability to
> > switch from left to right-handed use is working on every other OS I run
> > on my desktop but F11.  I also can't get sound in 
> 
> What DE are you using.
> I am left-Handed, and it works fine on Gnome\F11.
> Also worked fine on XFCE\F11 (before MB dies yesterday :(
> 
I don't know what DE means.  I am using gnome\F11.  I go to
system/preference/mouse.  I am using Asus MB P5Q SE2.  Does that help?
> 
> my Vmware Workstation.
> > I hope I am not being pushy, but all of these things worked fine in F10.
> 
> VMWare is probably OT?, on this list as it's don't come in a repo.
> Maybe: http://www.vmware.com/support/
> 
> Frank
> 
> -- 
> msn: frankly3d  skype: frankly3d
> Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List
> Still Learning, Unicode where possible
-



- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Thu May 21 19:41:38 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:41:38 -0600
Subject: Left-Hand Mouse and VMWare was Re: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <4A15AA1E.9010102@gmail.com>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A15AA1E.9010102@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242934898.5318.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 20:23 +0100, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote:
> Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> 
> > <snip> The ability to
> > switch from left to right-handed use is working on every other OS I run
> > on my desktop but F11.  I also can't get sound in 
> 
> What DE are you using.
> I am left-Handed, and it works fine on Gnome\F11.
> Also worked fine on XFCE\F11 (before MB dies yesterday :(
> 
> 
> my Vmware Workstation.
> > I hope I am not being pushy, but all of these things worked fine in F10.
> 
> VMWare is probably OT?, on this list as it's don't come in a repo.
> Maybe: http://www.vmware.com/support/
> 
> Frank
> 

I found out that Vmware needs to update from OSS to Pulseaudio and that
they have been dragging their feet in this area.  Just have to live with
it until lightning strikes I guess.:-)
> -- 
> msn: frankly3d  skype: frankly3d
> Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List
> Still Learning, Unicode where possible
> 
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Thu May 21 19:52:49 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:52:49 -0600
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <1242931579.3304.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1242931579.3304.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242935569.3474.44.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 00:16 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 11:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 13:25 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> > > Based on the recent conversations on this list, I have updated:
> > > 
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
> > > 
> > > If you use these instructions and they fail or you can otherwise tell
> > > they are incorrect, please either fix them directly on the wiki or let
> > > me know and I will fix them.
> > > 
> > > Hopefully this page can become a canonical, well-known resource so we
> > > aren't answering this question a million times.
> > 
> > As the page is generically named, and Fedora is a project with a strong
> > emphasis on F/OSS, I would suggest the page should more prominently
> > discuss and advocate F/OSS alternatives (gnash and swfdec) and position
> > the Adobe plugin as a fallback for cases where those solutions are not
> > sufficient. Also, it should refer more specifically to the Adobe plugin
> > when saying things like "Flash is Non-Free Software". WDYT?
> > -- 
> > Adam Williamson
> > Fedora QA Community Monkey
> > IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> > http://www.happyassassin.net
> > 
> 
> i think fedorasolved would be the right place for this page??

I disagree. Instructions for enabling the proprietary Flash plugin has
historically even been in the Fedora release notes (reference the F9
release notes as an example) - even though it is proprietary software.

As such I would advocate that it is appropriate to keep it on the page
where it is now. I think it's also absolutely appropriate to note that
this is not Free Software, but that it is proprietary software which is
available free of charge.

If you want to note that there are other Free Software alternatives for
those who are more concerned with Free Software "purity" than they are
with if the software they are using actually works, that's OK too. I'm
trying to be nice here - swfdec and gnash are OK for some things, but
they lack much in terms of maturity and capability by comparison. In my
experience working with the with end users, they have been much more
trouble than they are worth. If and when that changes, I'm happy to
reconsider that position.

Just my 2 cents...

Cheers,

Chris

-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein





From frankly3d at gmail.com  Thu May 21 19:54:43 2009
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d))
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:54:43 +0100
Subject: Left-Hand Mouse and VMWare was Re: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <1242934720.5318.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A15AA1E.9010102@gmail.com>
	<1242934720.5318.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A15B183.3030808@gmail.com>

Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 20:23 +0100, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote:
>> Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
>>
>>> <snip> The ability to
>>> switch from left to right-handed use is working on every other OS I run
>>> on my desktop but F11.  I also can't get sound in 
>> What DE are you using.
>> I am left-Handed, and it works fine on Gnome\F11.
>> Also worked fine on XFCE\F11 (before MB dies yesterday :(
>>
> I don't know what DE means. 
DE = Desktop Environment (example KDE), Gnome-DE


  I am using gnome\F11.  I go to
> system/preference/mouse.  I am using Asus MB P5Q SE2.  Does that help?

Unless there is some clash between VMWare and Fedora 11,
I don't used virt, so can't help there.

Frank
> 



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 21 20:19:36 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 01:49:36 +0530
Subject: Left-Hand Mouse and VMWare was Re: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <1242934720.5318.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A15AA1E.9010102@gmail.com>
	<1242934720.5318.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A15B758.5080901@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/22/2009 01:08 AM, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:

>>
> I don't know what DE means.  I am using gnome\F11.  I go to
> system/preference/mouse.  I am using Asus MB P5Q SE2.  Does that help?

Was a bug report filed on this?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report

It appears to be a VMWare only issue that should be reported directly to
VMWare instead however.

Rahul



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Thu May 21 20:26:15 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:26:15 -0600
Subject: Left-Hand Mouse and VMWare was Re: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <4A15B758.5080901@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A15AA1E.9010102@gmail.com>
	<1242934720.5318.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A15B758.5080901@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1242937575.5318.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 01:49 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/22/2009 01:08 AM, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> 
> >>
> > I don't know what DE means.  I am using gnome\F11.  I go to
> > system/preference/mouse.  I am using Asus MB P5Q SE2.  Does that help?
> 
> Was a bug report filed on this?
> 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report
> 
> It appears to be a VMWare only issue that should be reported directly to
> VMWare instead however.
> 
> Rahul
> 


Yes, a bug was filed about 3 weeks ago.  A lot of people responded to it
but no one came up with an answer.
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu May 21 20:31:20 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:31:20 -0400
Subject: Please help smoke test Fedora 11 installation! - dmraid
In-Reply-To: <1242329153.2923.929.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1242329153.2923.929.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1242937880.22894.50.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 12:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hi, everyone! As you no doubt are aware, we're getting close to the
> final release of Fedora 11. For anyone who has the time, it would be
> really useful to get some final smoke testing of the installer. If you
> have some spare time and disk space - either on a real system, or a
> virtual one - please take an hour or two to run an installation of
> Rawhide, using the network installation method, and make sure it
> completes without any really serious problems. We're particularly
> interested in problems at the partitioning stage, since the storage
> rewrite was the biggest and most problematic change in the installer for
> Fedora 11.
> 
> Even if you have a slow connection and don't have time to complete the
> installation, you can get to and through the partitioning stage
> relatively quickly, and that's very valuable testing (we need to test it
> on as many different disks, layouts, LVM / RAID setups etc as possible).
> 
> If you do encounter any problems, please file a bug, but also mail the
> list so the bug can be reviewed to see if it should go onto the blocker
> list for final release. At this point we're mostly looking for really
> serious stuff, and regressions from the preview release in particular.
> Official guidance from the Anaconda folks: "Any bugs introduced since
> F-11-Beta that also are data corrupters, panics, failures to install in
> "reasonable" configuration"
> 
> There's a test matrix on the Wiki where you can report results:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC_Install_Test_Results
> 
> It works backwards to most test day setups: instead of you looking at
> the test cases and picking which to run, you should just run an install,
> and if you hit problems, look through the list of test cases to figure
> out which one it's appropriate to send your report to. Hopefully the
> list of test cases covers all scenarios :)

Anyone have access to dmraid storage hardware?  I'm interested to know
how the latest anaconda looks in a dmraid storage setup.

If you have any experiences to share, please drop them into the wiki
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC_Install_Test_Results#Storage_Devices) under the dmraid test case [1] or feel free to reply here.

Thanks,
James

[1]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_partitioning_dmraid_rootfs

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/53854930/attachment.sig>

From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Thu May 21 21:35:53 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 15:35:53 -0600
Subject: Left-Hand Mouse and VMWare was Re: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <1242937575.5318.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A15AA1E.9010102@gmail.com>
	<1242934720.5318.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A15B758.5080901@fedoraproject.org>
	<1242937575.5318.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242941753.6854.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 14:26 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 01:49 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > On 05/22/2009 01:08 AM, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > 
> > >>
> > > I don't know what DE means.  I am using gnome\F11.  I go to
> > > system/preference/mouse.  I am using Asus MB P5Q SE2.  Does that help?
> > 
> > Was a bug report filed on this?
> > 
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report
> > 
> > It appears to be a VMWare only issue that should be reported directly to
> > VMWare instead however.
> > 
> > Rahul
> > 
> 
> 
> Yes, a bug was filed about 3 weeks ago.  A lot of people responded to it
> but no one came up with an answer.

Actually, I have to fess up on this one. I was _supposed_ to file a BZ
on this issue, but was overcome by other events. In the last few months,
travel with my job has often meant I've not been on the same continent
for more than a few days at a time. I've done almost 70K miles since the
beginning of the year just on one airline...!

...And this is specifically NOT a VMware issue. The problem happens on
F11 running natively on the machine regardless of if VMware is
installed. At the time, I was able to narrow it down to that, at least
on my IBM T400 laptop, the on-board IBM mouse buttons worked but my USB
connected Microsoft Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000 Model 1065
did not.

After that, it seems the entire thread was just dropped.

Lawrence has the same issue, and he is using a similar wireless USB
mouse and keyboard. I think he mentioned it was a Logitech brand, but
I'm not sure. Perhaps he can update us on that part.

Cheers,

Chris

-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein





From frankly3d at gmail.com  Thu May 21 22:10:48 2009
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d))
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:10:48 +0100
Subject: Left-Hand Mouse and VMWare was Re: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <1242941753.6854.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A15AA1E.9010102@gmail.com>	<1242934720.5318.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A15B758.5080901@fedoraproject.org>	<1242937575.5318.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242941753.6854.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A15D168.6000402@gmail.com>

Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 14:26 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 01:49 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>> On 05/22/2009 01:08 AM, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
>

Maybe it is this?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=324721

Frank

-- 
msn: frankly3d  skype: frankly3d
Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List
Still Learning, Unicode where possible



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Thu May 21 22:20:09 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:20:09 -0600
Subject: Left-Hand Mouse and VMWare was Re: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <4A15D168.6000402@gmail.com>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A15AA1E.9010102@gmail.com>
	<1242934720.5318.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A15B758.5080901@fedoraproject.org>
	<1242937575.5318.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242941753.6854.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A15D168.6000402@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242944409.5318.29.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 23:10 +0100, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote:
> Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 14:26 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 01:49 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >>> On 05/22/2009 01:08 AM, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> >
> 
> Maybe it is this?
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=324721
> 
> Frank
> 
> -- 
> msn: frankly3d  skype: frankly3d
> Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List
> Still Learning, Unicode where possible
> 


This seems to be talking about laptops.  May I need to file a bug
involving desktops.  What do you think. I am open for suggestion.
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 21 23:31:06 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:31:06 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090521233106.3C2DB10F922@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    json-2-1.fc9
    kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.1-0.12.20090519svn.fc9
    nqc-3.1.6-5.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 json-2-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5299)
 JavaScript Object Notation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.1-0.12.20090519svn.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5295)
 NetworkManager KDE 4 integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to a newer snapshot. Changes:  - hidden wireless network support  - no
more configuration prompt for unencrypted wireless networks  - OpenVPN port
selection  - multiple crash fixes (kde#192117 and others)  - improved tooltip
handling    Still needs testing for wireless networks and VPN.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Ben Boeckel <MathStuf at gmail.com> 0.1-0.12.20090519svn
- New snapshot (revision 970021 committed 2009-05-19 09:34:14 -0400)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nqc-3.1.6-5.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5300)
 Not Quite C compiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Added language tags to international documentation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr <rvinyard at cs.nmsu.edu> - 3.1.6-5
- Added lang(xx) directives to international files
* Wed Apr  1 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr <rvinyard at cs.nmsu.edu> - 3.1.6-4
- Added multi-lingual doc packages and split English docs into their own package
- Added -p to udev rules file on install
- Added preserve timestamps to docs
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 3.1.6-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 21 23:31:06 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:31:06 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090521233106.3EC0010F923@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    cfengine-2.2.10-1.fc11
    ekiga-3.2.4-1.fc11
    gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-1.fc11
    iwl5000-firmware-8.24.2.12-1.fc11
    json-2-1.fc11
    kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.1-0.12.20090519svn.fc11
    libguestfs-1.0.27-1.fc11.2
    libvirt-0.6.2-9.fc11
    lxde-common-0.4.1-1.fc11
    nqc-3.1.6-5.fc11
    opal-3.6.2-1.fc11
    php-pecl-memcached-0.1.5-1.fc11
    ptlib-2.6.2-1.fc11
    python-cheetah-2.2.0-1.fc11
    rsync-3.0.5-2.fc11
    shorewall-4.2.9-1.fc11
    speech-dispatcher-0.6.7-1.fc11
    xfce4-power-manager-0.8.0-0.3.RC2.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 cfengine-2.2.10-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5291)
 A systems administration tool for networks
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Jeff Sheltren <jeff at osuosl.org> 2.2.10-1
- Update to upstream 2.2.10
- Remove db-4.7 patch as it is now included upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ekiga-3.2.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5323)
 A Gnome based SIP/H323 teleconferencing application
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release. Massive amounts of bugs fixed and numerous problems fixed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 3.2.4-1
- Ekiga 3.2.4 stable - Changelog
  http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ekiga-devel-list/2009-May/msg00062.html
  http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ekiga-devel-list/2009-May/msg00064.html
* Tue May 19 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 3.2.1-1
- Ekiga 3.2.1 stable - Changelog
  http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ekiga-devel-list/2009-May/msg00054.html
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 3.2.0-3
- Rebuild against newer GConf/intltool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499298 - Crashes shortly after making a second call
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499298
  [ 2 ] Bug #495198 - no connection to any SIP server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495198
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5297)
 GStreamer plug-ins with good code and licensing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release New upstream releases with a large number of bug fixes, and
update PulseAudio plugin.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.10.15-1
- Update to 0.10.15
* Thu May 14 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.10.14-3
- Update pulsesink to latest upstream version, fixes assertion when
  Rhythmbox tries to change the sound from the wrong thread
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 iwl5000-firmware-8.24.2.12-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5292)
 Firmware for Intel? PRO/Wireless 5000 A/G/N network adaptors
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 8.24.2.12 from Intel. This is supposed to fix a number of
firmware-related bugs.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> - 8.24.2.12-1
- Add v2 firmware
- Add .fc11 tag
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 json-2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5286)
 JavaScript Object Notation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.1-0.12.20090519svn.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5298)
 NetworkManager KDE 4 integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to a newer snapshot. Changes:  - hidden wireless network support  - no
more configuration prompt for unencrypted wireless networks  - OpenVPN port
selection  - multiple crash fixes (kde#192117 and others)  - improved tooltip
handling    Still needs testing for wireless networks and VPN.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Ben Boeckel <MathStuf at gmail.com> 0.1-0.12.20090519svn
- New snapshot (revision 970021 committed 2009-05-19 09:34:14 -0400)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libguestfs-1.0.27-1.fc11.2 (FEDORA-2009-5279)
 Access and modify virtual machine disk images
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

libguestfs only requires qemu-kvm, not all of qemu New upstream version 1.0.27.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1.fc11.2
- Change requirement from qemu -> qemu-kvm (RHBZ#501761).
* Wed May 20 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1.fc11.1
- Requested that zerofree and febootstrap be moved so we will be able
  to build this.
* Wed May 20 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1
- Backport version 1.0.27 from devel branch.
* Tue May 12 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.25-3
- New upstream version 1.0.25.
- Enable debugging when running the tests.
* Tue May 12 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.24-1
- New upstream version 1.0.24.
- BRs glibc-static for the new command tests.
- Enable tests.
* Mon May 11 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.23-2
- New upstream version 1.0.23.
- Don't try to use updates during build.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501761 - libguestfs requires qemu, not qemu-system-x86 or qemu-system-ppc
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501761
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libvirt-0.6.2-9.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5311)
 Library providing a simple API virtualization
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 0.6.2-9.fc11
- Fix qemu argv detection with latest qemu (bug #501923)
- Fix XML attribute escaping (bug #499791)
- Fix serious event handling issues causing guests to be destroyed (bug #499698)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501923 - libvirt with latest qemu-kvm error: "Cannot determine QEMU argv syntax /usr/bin/qemu-kvm"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501923
  [ 2 ] Bug #499791 - virt-manager does not escape special characters in ISO file name
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499791
  [ 3 ] Bug #499698 - 'virsh destroy' destroys multiple VMs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499698
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxde-common-0.4.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5312)
 Default configuration files for LXDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 New upstream version 0.4. lxde-settings has been renamed to lxde-settings-
daemon and got it's own package. The obsolete config file
/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default has been removed from this package.  This update
fixes the upgrade path from the 0.3.2.1 release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.1-1
- Update to 0.4.1
* Mon May 11 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4-2
- Fix Provides to allow proper upgrade
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4-1
- Update to 0.4
- Require lxmenu-data and lxde-settings-daemon
- Drop obsolete config file /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nqc-3.1.6-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5282)
 Not Quite C compiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Added language tags to international documentation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr <rvinyard at cs.nmsu.edu> - 3.1.6-5
- Added lang(xx) directives to international files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 opal-3.6.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5323)
 Open Phone Abstraction Library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release. Massive amounts of bugs fixed and numerous problems fixed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 3.6.2-1
- New stable release for ekiga 3.2.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499298 - Crashes shortly after making a second call
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499298
  [ 2 ] Bug #495198 - no connection to any SIP server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495198
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-pecl-memcached-0.1.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5307)
 Extension to work with the Memcached caching daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This extension uses libmemcached library to provide API for communicating with
memcached servers.    memcached is a high-performance, distributed memory object
caching system, generic in nature, but intended for use in speeding up dynamic
web applications by alleviating database load.    It also provides a session
handler (memcached).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497688 - Review Request: php-pecl-memcached - Extension to work with the Memcached caching daemon
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497688
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ptlib-2.6.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5323)
 Portable Tools Library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release. Massive amounts of bugs fixed and numerous problems fixed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 2.6.2-1
- New stable release for ekiga 3.2.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499298 - Crashes shortly after making a second call
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499298
  [ 2 ] Bug #495198 - no connection to any SIP server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495198
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-cheetah-2.2.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5308)
 Template engine and code-generator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to the 2.2.0 upstream release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Mike Bonnet <mikeb at redhat.com> - 2.2.0-1
- update to the 2.2.0 release
- remove unneeded importHook() patch, it has been included upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rsync-3.0.5-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5309)
 A program for synchronizing files over a network
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Enabled option --copy-devices.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 J?n ONDREJ (SAL) <ondrejj(at)salstar.sk> - 3.0.5-2
- Enabled patches/copy-devices.diff patch (bz#494313)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494313 - RFE: New option --copy-devices to rsync devices
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494313
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 shorewall-4.2.9-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5285)
 An iptables front end for firewall configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to upstream bugfix version 4.2.9. Release notes here:
http://www1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/4.2/shorewall-4.2.9/releasenotes.txt
Update to upstream bugfix version 4.2.8. Release notes here:
http://www1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/4.2/shorewall-4.2.8/ Update to upstream
bugfix version 4.2.8. Release notes here:
http://www1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/4.2/shorewall-4.2.8/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.9-1
- Update to version 4.2.9
* Fri May  8 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.8-1
- Update to version 4.2.8
- Update shorewall-perl to 4.2.8.2
- Use global instead of define in macros to comply with packaging guidelines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 speech-dispatcher-0.6.7-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5302)
 To provide a high-level device independent layer for speech synthesis
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix logging, new upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 0.6.7-1
- New upstream release, some spec file cleanups.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501142 - Speech dispatcher fails to start
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501142
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xfce4-power-manager-0.8.0-0.3.RC2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5283)
 Power management for the Xfce desktop environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is the second release candidate of xfce4-power-manager 0.8.0. It fixes some
issues related to DBus and has some improvements in the UI and the battery code.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.8.0-0.3.RC2
- Update to 0.8.0RC2
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.8.0-0.3.RC1
- Update to 0.8.0RC1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 21 23:31:06 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:31:06 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090521233106.41CF710F924@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    cfengine-2.2.10-1.fc10
    ibus-table-1.1.0.20090316-2.fc10
    json-2-1.fc10
    kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.1-0.12.20090519svn.fc10
    libgdl-2.24.0-3.fc10
    lxde-settings-daemon-0.4-3.fc10
    nqc-3.1.6-5.fc10
    php-pecl-memcached-0.1.5-1.fc10
    rsync-3.0.5-2.fc10
    shorewall-4.2.9-1.fc10
    speech-dispatcher-0.6.7-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 cfengine-2.2.10-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5321)
 A systems administration tool for networks
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 19 2009 Jeff Sheltren <jeff at osuosl.org> 2.2.10-1
- Update to upstream 2.2.10
- Remove db-4.7 patch as it is now included upstream
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 2.2.8-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Jan 15 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> 2.2.8-3
- rebuild with new openssl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-1.1.0.20090316-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5293)
 The Table engine for IBus platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Tagged override for introducing ibus-table-{cangjie,wubi,erbi,yong} that
obsoletes ibus-table-chinese afterwards. Port ibus related packages from F-11
branch to F-10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090316-2.fc10
- Obsoleted ibus-table-chinese for ibus-table-{cangjie,wubi,erbi,yong}.
* Mon Mar 16 2009 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090316-1.fc11
- Resolves: rhbz#490396
- Updated source tarball.
- Disabled speedmeter until config option is implemented.
* Fri Mar  6 2009 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090220-5
- make pkgconfig noarch with ibus-table-pkgconfig-noarch.patch
- fix license field: actually LGPL
- drop gettext-devel BR
- require ibus > 1.1.0
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090220-4.fc11
- Rebuilt.
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090220-3.fc11
- Rebuilt.
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090220-2.fc11
- Rebuilt.
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090220-1.fc11
- Resolves: rhbz#484650
- Updated to latest upstream release.
- Splitted chinese input methods into modules.
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.1.20081014-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Feb  4 2009 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 0.1.1.20081014-4
- Resolves: rhbz#466430 rhbz#466844
- Added wildcard features.
- Added preedit clearance on refocus.
* Mon Dec  1 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081014-3
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
* Mon Dec  1 2008 Peng Huang <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081014-2
- Modified spec file to own all directories created by ibus-table.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 json-2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5319)
 JavaScript Object Notation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.1-0.12.20090519svn.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5281)
 NetworkManager KDE 4 integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to a newer snapshot. Changes:  - hidden wireless network support  - no
more configuration prompt for unencrypted wireless networks  - OpenVPN port
selection  - multiple crash fixes (kde#192117 and others)  - improved tooltip
handling    Still needs testing for wireless networks and VPN.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Ben Boeckel <MathStuf at gmail.com> 0.1-0.12.20090519svn
- New snapshot (revision 970021 committed 2009-05-19 09:34:14 -0400)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libgdl-2.24.0-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5294)
 Components and library for GNOME development tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Thu May 21 2009 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 2.24.0-3  -
Backported fix to prevent crash when docking, undocking and trying to reset
dock layout. (GNOME Bugzilla #566801).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 2.24.0-3
- Backported fix to prevent crash when docking, undocking and trying to reset
  dock layout. (GNOME Bugzilla #566801).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxde-settings-daemon-0.4-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5287)
 XSettings Daemon for LXDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 This package contains the XSettings daemon for LXDE, the Lightweight X11
Desktop Environment. It allows XSettings aware applications (all GTK+ 2 and
GNOME 2 applications) to be informed instantly of changes in LXDE configuration,
such as theme name, default font and so on.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498125 - Review Request: lxde-settings-daemon - XSettings Daemon for LXDE
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498125
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nqc-3.1.6-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5314)
 Not Quite C compiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Added language tags to international documentation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr <rvinyard at cs.nmsu.edu> - 3.1.6-5
- Added lang(xx) directives to international files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-pecl-memcached-0.1.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5290)
 Extension to work with the Memcached caching daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This extension uses libmemcached library to provide API for communicating with
memcached servers.    memcached is a high-performance, distributed memory object
caching system, generic in nature, but intended for use in speeding up dynamic
web applications by alleviating database load.    It also provides a session
handler (memcached).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497688 - Review Request: php-pecl-memcached - Extension to work with the Memcached caching daemon
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497688
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rsync-3.0.5-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5322)
 A program for synchronizing files over a network
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Enabled option --copy-devices.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 J?n ONDREJ (SAL) <ondrejj(at)salstar.sk> - 3.0.5-2
- Enabled patches/copy-devices.diff patch (bz#494313)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494313 - RFE: New option --copy-devices to rsync devices
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494313
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 shorewall-4.2.9-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5301)
 An iptables front end for firewall configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to upstream bugfix version 4.2.9. Release notes here:
http://www1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/4.2/shorewall-4.2.9/releasenotes.txt
Update to upstream bugfix version 4.2.8. Release notes here:
http://www1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/4.2/shorewall-4.2.8/ Update to upstream
bugfix version 4.2.8. Release notes here:
http://www1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/4.2/shorewall-4.2.8/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.9-1
- Update to version 4.2.9
* Fri May  8 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.8-1
- Update to version 4.2.8
- Update shorewall-perl to 4.2.8.2
- Use global instead of define in macros to comply with packaging guidelines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 speech-dispatcher-0.6.7-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5289)
 To provide a high-level device independent layer for speech synthesis
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release and fix issue with log dir
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 0.6.7-1
- New upstream release, some spec file cleanups.
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.6.6-21
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 0.6.6-20
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
* Sun Sep 21 2008 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.6.6-19
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492012 - Speech Dispatcher fails to create /var/log/speech-dispatcher/, no logs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492012
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 21 23:42:47 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:42:47 -0700
Subject: Fedora 11 Common Bugs page
Message-ID: <1242949367.16232.8.camel@adam.local.net>

As discussed at the meeting on Tuesday, I (with a little help from
stickster!) have revised and updated the Fedora 11 Common Bugs page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs

some notes on this: please, everyone, do add issues with reasonably high
visibility, that you regularly have to explain, to this page: it will
help others find out about these issues, and save you time in the long
run as you can simply link to the page entry instead of re-typing the
explanation over and over again.

some innovations:

I got a new keyword created in Bugzilla, CommonBugs, to track issues
that are or should be listed on these pages (note the difference from
the needsreleasenote? flag, which is for *release notes*, not common
bugs). Please make sure the bug report for any issue you add to the page
has the CommonBugs keyword added - this will make it easy to know when a
bug has an entry on the Common Bugs page, so when the bug is fixed or a
new workaround discovered or something, the Common Bugs page entry can
be updated. If the Whiteboard field for the bug is empty, add the anchor
link to the entry on the Common Bugs page into it.

after release, we should be aiming to update the entries on the page to
reflect the status of updates. So, if an update to fix an issue goes
into updates-testing, add a note on this to the Common Bugs page entry.
If the update goes official, move it to the Resolved Issues section
(which doesn't exist yet, but it will...) and note which update fixes
the issue. I'll add some boilerplate text for these cases to the page
comments once we actually have live examples for these changes.

I've added these instructions to the page source as comments, so you'll
always have a reference there live.

that's it, really - if everyone makes an effort to use this page in
future it should become a really valuable resource. thanks all!
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From stickster at gmail.com  Fri May 22 00:12:21 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:12:21 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:09:18AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 13:25 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> > Based on the recent conversations on this list, I have updated:
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
> > 
> > If you use these instructions and they fail or you can otherwise tell
> > they are incorrect, please either fix them directly on the wiki or let
> > me know and I will fix them.
> > 
> > Hopefully this page can become a canonical, well-known resource so we
> > aren't answering this question a million times.
> 
> As the page is generically named, and Fedora is a project with a strong
> emphasis on F/OSS, I would suggest the page should more prominently
> discuss and advocate F/OSS alternatives (gnash and swfdec) and position
> the Adobe plugin as a fallback for cases where those solutions are not
> sufficient. Also, it should refer more specifically to the Adobe plugin
> when saying things like "Flash is Non-Free Software". WDYT?

I added a top-side admonition, taking the text directly from our
existing [[ForbiddenItems]] page.  We should maintain equivalency
between those pages.  (I would have liked to transclude just that
section, but didn't know how.)

Because, at least, (1) the use of Adobe's plugin is not illegal
anywhere to our knowledge, and (2) the use of Adobe's software
repository does not, as far as we know, present problems of potential
contributory infringement, this page is permissible.  I agree we need
an admonition to clarify this is an *alternative* to FOSS, not a
method of first resort for people who care about software freedom.

-- 
Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
  http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug



From alex at unity3dgallery.com  Fri May 22 00:14:12 2009
From: alex at unity3dgallery.com (Alex Turner)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:14:12 -0400
Subject: Hi
Message-ID: <7d371eca0905211714m457a62b6ha3b31e7196dd5d31@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

I'm very glad to join at Fedora Bug Zappers Team. I have working a lot
with Fedora and Red Hat Linux  since some years ago. So, let's time to
contribute with the project.

I have some experience in programming, like C++ PHP Ruby C Obj-C
Applescript (not really a lang but a lang anyways), python, boo,  C

So, let me introduce myself.

My name is Alex Turner, I live at Ann Arbor MI
USA. I use windows 7, mac os x, and have used ubuntu but have gotten
tired of it and want to try something new like fedora.
That was 1 year ago.  Now I use windws 7, mac os x,
and fedora for developing Operating systems (for purposes like fun and
a challenge) and using it as a fun operating system.

At my signature I'm sending my contacts fell free if anyone want to contact me.

Bye


--------
Contacts
msn:alex at unity3dgallery.com <msn%3Aalex at unity3dgallery.com>
aol:alex at unity3dgallery.com <aol%3Aalex at unity3dgallery.com>
gmail:pawngame10 at gmail.com <gmail%3Apawngame10 at gmail.com>
other:alex at unity3dgallery.com <other%3Aalex at unity3dgallery.com>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090521/282a5a7a/attachment.htm>

From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Fri May 22 00:59:35 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:59:35 -0400
Subject: Hi
In-Reply-To: <7d371eca0905211714m457a62b6ha3b31e7196dd5d31@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7d371eca0905211714m457a62b6ha3b31e7196dd5d31@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A15F8F7.2090506@gmail.com>

Alex Turner wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm very glad to join at Fedora Bug Zappers Team. I have working a lot
> with Fedora and Red Hat Linux  since some years ago. So, let's time to
>
> contribute with the project.
>
> I have some experience in programming, like C++ PHP Ruby C Obj-C Applescript (not really a lang but a lang anyways), python, boo,  C
>
> So, let me introduce myself.
>
> My name is Alex Turner, I live at Ann Arbor MI
>
> USA. I use windows 7, mac os x, and have used ubuntu but have gotten tired of it and want to try something new like fedora.
> That was 1 year ago.  Now I use windws 7, mac os x, 
> and fedora for developing Operating systems (for purposes like fun and a challenge) and using it as a fun operating system.
>
>
> At my signature I'm sending my contacts fell free if anyone want to contact me.
>
> Bye
>   
>
> --------
> Contacts
> msn:alex at unity3dgallery.com <mailto:msn%3Aalex at unity3dgallery.com>
> aol:alex at unity3dgallery.com <mailto:aol%3Aalex at unity3dgallery.com>
> gmail:pawngame10 at gmail.com <mailto:gmail%3Apawngame10 at gmail.com>
> other:alex at unity3dgallery.com <mailto:other%3Aalex at unity3dgallery.com>
Hello Alex, and welcome the the bugzappers =)

TK009



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Fri May 22 01:04:42 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:04:42 +0800
Subject: /etc/limits.conf applying changes without reboot
In-Reply-To: <395340.24753.qm@web27904.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <53250.58226.qm@web27901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>	<4A152DB5.3090904@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<395340.24753.qm@web27904.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A15FA2A.3090608@herakles.homelinux.org>

omar naas wrote:
> 
> I guess it's something to do with the kernel, right!
> 
> 
If you don't answer my question, I can't help. What evidence do you have?

> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: John Summerfield <debian at herakles.homelinux.org>
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 21 May, 2009 12:32:21
> Subject: Re: /etc/limits.conf applying changes without reboot
> 
> omar naas wrote:
>> Fedora lovers.
>>
>> Is there anyway to apply the changes to /etc/security/limits.conf without rebooting my machine?
>>
>> Many thanks indeed
>> Omar
>>
> Why do you think that is not happening?
> 
> 


-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Fri May 22 01:11:55 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:11:55 -0400
Subject: Left-Hand Mouse and VMWare was Re: Updates to be installed
Message-ID: <1242954716.2099.17.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

The bug that was most recently filed on the left-handed mouse issue was
this one:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487849

Since both I and the reporter of that bug can successfully set our mice
to be left-handed, the bug was closed.

Lawrence, I don't see anything in Bugzilla from you on this issue; it
seems as far as the system is concerned, there is no problem.  (Mailing
list posts don't guarantee that an issue has actually been brought to
the attention of the appropriate developer.)

Below is the message I previously sent containing the technical
information I would recommend you include in a new report.  Since bug
487849 was closed and was probably not hardware-specific, I recommend
filing a new bug by visiting:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi

Good luck,

Beland

-------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Christopher Beland <beland at alum.mit.edu>
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
> <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Mouse choices
> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:53:35 -0400
> 
> OK, Lawrence, I'm assuming the following is true for you:
> 
> >>
> I go to System -> Preferences -> Mouse from the Gnome menu.  On the
> General tab, I select "Left-handed" under "Mouse Orientation" and hit
> Close.  When I click on a desktop icon with the right mouse button, a
> context menu appears, indicating the mouse is still set to
> right-handed.  If I change the setting back to right-handed and then
> to left-handed again, there is still no effect.
> <<
> 
> That's the level of detail that package maintainers are looking for in a
> bug report; there are a lot of different desktops and configurations and
> whatnot that people use, and they need enough context to narrow down the
> problem.
> 
> To ensure that the appropriate package maintainer sees your problem
> report, the best thing to do is to file it at
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com.  The first thing to do is to make sure a
> problem has not already been reported, and as it happens a search
> reveals your problem has already been reported here:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487849
> 
> You can potentially help identify the source of the problem by sharing
> information from your own system.  I would add something like the
> following in a comment, assuming this is correct:
> 
> >>
> I'm experiencing the same with being unable to set my mouse to
> left-handed (no freeze up).  I have a Logitech wireless Keyboard and
> mouse combo x710 USB.  In /etc/selinux/config, I have Selinux= enforcing
> and Selinuxtype=targeted, but I don't see any error messages
> in /var/log/messages or ~/.xsession-errors that look related to the
> mouse problem.  I started experiencing this problem somewhere between
> the F11 beta and preview releases.
> <<
> 
> I would also attach the output of "lsusb"; do "yum install usbutils" to
> install this program if you don't have it already.
> 
> If you have more time to put into diagnosing this, identifying the
> last-good and first-bad RPMs with respect to this problem would probably
> help the package maintainer out, unless someone shouts out otherwise.
> 
> I'm not an expert, but you could try reverting control-center,
> xorg-x11-drv-mouse, and kernel with "rpm --oldpackage".  If you don't
> have them handy, old versions are archived on
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org (search in the upper right for the package
> you need).  No doubt they have many dependencies you would also need to
> track down; it might be easier to start over again with the beta release
> and update packages piecemeal until the problem returns.
> 
> Alternatively, you can just wait until a developer asks for further help
> diagnosing the issue.  If you add a comment to the above-mentioned bug,
> you will get added to the cc: list (as long as that checkbox is also
> selected when you submit your comment) and thus get an email whenever
> there is an update to the bug.
> 
> FYI, if you have any other problems you would like to report, we hope
> that:
> 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests
> 
> is an adequate guide to help you find the information package
> maintainers need to track them down, even for those just starting out
> with Fedora.
> 
> Thanks for reporting this problem, and good luck!
> 
> --Beland



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri May 22 01:26:19 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:26:19 -0600
Subject: Left-Hand Mouse and VMWare was Re: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <1242954716.2099.17.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1242954716.2099.17.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1242955579.2668.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 21:11 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> The bug that was most recently filed on the left-handed mouse issue was
> this one:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487849
> 
> Since both I and the reporter of that bug can successfully set our mice
> to be left-handed, the bug was closed.
> 
> Lawrence, I don't see anything in Bugzilla from you on this issue; it
> seems as far as the system is concerned, there is no problem.  (Mailing
> list posts don't guarantee that an issue has actually been brought to
> the attention of the appropriate developer.)
> 
> Below is the message I previously sent containing the technical
> information I would recommend you include in a new report.  Since bug
> 487849 was closed and was probably not hardware-specific, I recommend
> filing a new bug by visiting:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Beland
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Christopher Beland <beland at alum.mit.edu>
> > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
> > <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> > Subject: Re: Mouse choices
> > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:53:35 -0400
> > 
> > OK, Lawrence, I'm assuming the following is true for you:
> > 
> > >>
> > I go to System -> Preferences -> Mouse from the Gnome menu.  On the
> > General tab, I select "Left-handed" under "Mouse Orientation" and hit
> > Close.  When I click on a desktop icon with the right mouse button, a
> > context menu appears, indicating the mouse is still set to
> > right-handed.  If I change the setting back to right-handed and then
> > to left-handed again, there is still no effect.
> > <<
> > 
> > That's the level of detail that package maintainers are looking for in a
> > bug report; there are a lot of different desktops and configurations and
> > whatnot that people use, and they need enough context to narrow down the
> > problem.
> > 
> > To ensure that the appropriate package maintainer sees your problem
> > report, the best thing to do is to file it at
> > http://bugzilla.redhat.com.  The first thing to do is to make sure a
> > problem has not already been reported, and as it happens a search
> > reveals your problem has already been reported here:
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487849
> > 
> > You can potentially help identify the source of the problem by sharing
> > information from your own system.  I would add something like the
> > following in a comment, assuming this is correct:
> > 
> > >>
> > I'm experiencing the same with being unable to set my mouse to
> > left-handed (no freeze up).  I have a Logitech wireless Keyboard and
> > mouse combo x710 USB.  In /etc/selinux/config, I have Selinux= enforcing
> > and Selinuxtype=targeted, but I don't see any error messages
> > in /var/log/messages or ~/.xsession-errors that look related to the
> > mouse problem.  I started experiencing this problem somewhere between
> > the F11 beta and preview releases.
> > <<
> > 
> > I would also attach the output of "lsusb"; do "yum install usbutils" to
> > install this program if you don't have it already.
> > 
> > If you have more time to put into diagnosing this, identifying the
> > last-good and first-bad RPMs with respect to this problem would probably
> > help the package maintainer out, unless someone shouts out otherwise.
> > 
> > I'm not an expert, but you could try reverting control-center,
> > xorg-x11-drv-mouse, and kernel with "rpm --oldpackage".  If you don't
> > have them handy, old versions are archived on
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org (search in the upper right for the package
> > you need).  No doubt they have many dependencies you would also need to
> > track down; it might be easier to start over again with the beta release
> > and update packages piecemeal until the problem returns.
> > 
> > Alternatively, you can just wait until a developer asks for further help
> > diagnosing the issue.  If you add a comment to the above-mentioned bug,
> > you will get added to the cc: list (as long as that checkbox is also
> > selected when you submit your comment) and thus get an email whenever
> > there is an update to the bug.
> > 
> > FYI, if you have any other problems you would like to report, we hope
> > that:
> > 
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests
> > 
> > is an adequate guide to help you find the information package
> > maintainers need to track them down, even for those just starting out
> > with Fedora.
> > 
> > Thanks for reporting this problem, and good luck!
> > 
> > --Beland
> 
--

Thanks for your time and understanding.  With people like you, I will
advance in my understanding of the technical aspect of computers. 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From aaron.lwe at gmail.com  Fri May 22 01:46:41 2009
From: aaron.lwe at gmail.com (aaron lwe)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:46:41 +0800
Subject: tigervnc gnome theme problem
In-Reply-To: <guv4hv$248$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <ff277c2e0905140144x795cdc12o882f7d15c4af864a@mail.gmail.com>
	<guv4hv$248$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <ff277c2e0905211846g6171e752u9cda5def5eed9d99@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at> wrote:
>
> Looks like gnome-settings-daemon is not running in your VNC session.
>
> ? ? ? ?Kevin Kofler
>

Thanks Kevin, I think you are right.

I manually started gnome-settings-daemon in a vnc session like this:
 /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon
--gconf-prefix=/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins
Everything works fine. I don't know what the param means, I just did a
ps ax|grep gnome-settings-daemon and it showed this.

But if I started it like this:
/usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon
The theme will initially change to what I've chosen, with some warnings:
  ** (gnome-settings-daemon:2745): WARNING **: XKB extension not available
  ** (gnome-settings-daemon:2745): WARNING **: Neither XKeyboard not
Xfree86's keyboard extensions are available,
  no way to support keyboard autorepeat rate settings
  ** (gnome-settings-daemon:2745): WARNING **: Connection failed

Then switched back to nodoka with an error message after a little while:
  The program 'gnome-settings-daemon' received an X Window System error.
  This probably reflects a bug in the program.
  The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.
  (Details: serial 557 error_code 3 request_code 20 minor_code 0)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)



From lili at redhat.com  Fri May 22 07:20:47 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:20:47 +0800
Subject: Will add a few fedora upgrade test cases, your feedback would
 be welcome
In-Reply-To: <1242925466.16265.20.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <49F0372D.9060107@redhat.com>
	<1242925466.16265.20.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A16524F.4070107@redhat.com>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090522/12417178/attachment.htm>

From frankly3d at gmail.com  Fri May 22 07:23:11 2009
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d))
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:23:11 +0100
Subject: Left-Hand Mouse and VMWare was Re: Updates to be installed
In-Reply-To: <1242941753.6854.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242917663.6874.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A15AA1E.9010102@gmail.com>	<1242934720.5318.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A15B758.5080901@fedoraproject.org>	<1242937575.5318.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242941753.6854.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A1652DF.1020208@gmail.com>

Christopher A. Williams wrote:



<snip>
> 
> ...And this is specifically NOT a VMware issue. The problem happens on
> F11 running natively on the machine regardless of if VMware is
> installed. At the time, I was able to narrow it down to that, at least
> on my IBM T400 laptop, the on-board IBM mouse buttons worked but my USB
> connected Microsoft Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000 Model 1065
> did not.
>

When you connected the external mouse,
did you  re-check the mouse settings,
as there can be a setting for each device.

Frank



-- 
msn: frankly3d  skype: frankly3d
Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List
Still Learning, Unicode where possible



From markkuk at tuubi.net  Fri May 22 10:31:54 2009
From: markkuk at tuubi.net (Markku Kolkka)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:31:54 +0300
Subject: Please help smoke test Fedora 11 installation! - dmraid
In-Reply-To: <1242937880.22894.50.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1242329153.2923.929.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1242937880.22894.50.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <200905221331.54665.markkuk@tuubi.net>

James Laska kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika torstai, 21. 
toukokuuta 2009):
> Anyone have access to dmraid storage hardware?  I'm interested
> to know how the latest anaconda looks in a dmraid storage
> setup.

It crashes the same way as before, no progress for over a month. 
See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495356 for the 
latest traceback.

-- 
 Markku Kolkka
 markku.kolkka at iki.fi



From caf at omen.com  Fri May 22 12:18:55 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 05:18:55 -0700
Subject: Fedora mail (dovecot/thunderbird) bollixes Newsletters
Message-ID: <4A16982F.9080805@omen.com>

The text/body of some newsletters is not displayed
in Thunderbird (rawhide).  Email source from the
/var/spool/mail/caf file is attached.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
   Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665

-------------- next part --------------
An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed...
Name: foo
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090522/88f9e1e0/attachment.ksh>

From mefoster at gmail.com  Fri May 22 12:48:02 2009
From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:48:02 +0100
Subject: modeset on/off changes xrandr output
In-Reply-To: <1242148108.21675.70.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <f58861e00905120208j17e0bf29te61d6d464e15a14c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<1242140143.21675.52.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com> 
	<f58861e00905120830s658891dcr145482ddf0133e69@mail.gmail.com> 
	<1242148108.21675.70.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <f58861e00905220548x574759ddl386b8b3b81225284@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/12 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com>:
>> > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 10:08 +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
>> >> - Outputs have different names:
>> >> ? - modeset: VGA1, LVDS1, DVI{1,2}, TV1
>> >> ? - nomodeset: VGA, LVDS, HDMI-{1,2}, TV
>>
>> > This is a bug, we should be getting the names the same between KMS and
>> > UMS. ?It's pretty much cosmetic though, IIRC Gnome will remember output
>> > configuration based on the EDID of the attached device and not the
>> > output name, so it shouldn't matter.
>>
>> But xorg.conf-based configuration still uses the output names as far
>> as I can tell (and the KDE randr tool doesn't seem to work very well
>> at all ...). Should I file this as a bug?
>
> True. ?And yes, please.

Sorry for the delay; I have now edited my previous "everything" bug to
refer only to this device-name issue:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496232

MEF

-- 
Mary Ellen Foster  --  http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/
ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.



From jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us  Fri May 22 13:04:59 2009
From: jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:04:59 -0400
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work in thunderbird be a
 release blocker?
Message-ID: <4A16A2FB.2050402@kamens.brookline.ma.us>

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489492



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 22 13:07:26 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:07:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090522 changes
Message-ID: <20090522130726.2D0571F8217@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri May 22 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

alsa-lib-1.0.20-1.fc11
----------------------
* Wed May 06 2009 Jaroslav Kysela <jkysela at redhat.com> - 1.0.20-1
- Updated to 1.0.20 final


gallery2-2.3-11.fc11
--------------------
* Thu May 21 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-11
- Patch to fix SMTP, 501868.
- Patch to fix captcha, 501871.

* Thu May 14 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-10
- Fine-tuning of symlink script.


pungi-2.0.16-1.fc11
-------------------
* Thu May 21 2009 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 2.0.16-1
- Fix boot.iso being on DVD images


tigervnc-0.0.90-0.10.fc11
-------------------------
* Thu May 21 2009 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 0.0.90-10
- rebuild against 1.6.1.901 X server (#497835)
- disable i18n, vncviewer is not UTF-8 compatible (#501832)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 4









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us  Fri May 22 13:13:32 2009
From: jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:13:32 -0400
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with firefox be a
 release blocker?
Message-ID: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477639



From bpepple at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 22 13:19:50 2009
From: bpepple at fedoraproject.org (Brian Pepple)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:19:50 -0400
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with firefox be a
 release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
Message-ID: <1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 09:13 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477639
> 

No, I don't believe that meets the release blocker criteria.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/ReleaseCriteria

Later,
/B
-- 
Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org>

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bpepple
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E
BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B  CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090522/0dd874df/attachment.sig>

From jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us  Fri May 22 13:24:25 2009
From: jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:24:25 -0400
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>

I think search is, nowadays, critical functionality, not only because it 
is widely used, but because it is built into those other two big 
operating systems Linux is competing with.

I think putting out a release in which search is non-functional for the 
two most important types of data (email and Web pages), when search 
/was/ functional for those two types of data in the previous release, 
would be extremely unwise and a big black eye for Fedora.

While I understand the need to have relatively sane criteria for what 
constitutes a release blocker, it is also, as the ReleaseCriteria page 
points out, essentially a subjective judgment, and in this case I think 
that looking at the forest, rather than the trees, would lead to the 
conclusion that F11 shouldn't ship with these two bugs unfixed.

Especially since they will probably be quite easy to fix once a 
developer actually pays attention to them.

   jik

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090522/3461dbdb/attachment.htm>

From bpepple at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 22 13:48:32 2009
From: bpepple at fedoraproject.org (Brian Pepple)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:48:32 -0400
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
Message-ID: <1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 09:24 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> I think search is, nowadays, critical functionality, not only because
> it is widely used, but because it is built into those other two big
> operating systems Linux is competing with.
> 
> I think putting out a release in which search is non-functional for
> the two most important types of data (email and Web pages), when
> search was functional for those two types of data in the previous
> release, would be extremely unwise and a big black eye for Fedora.
> 
> While I understand the need to have relatively sane criteria for what
> constitutes a release blocker, it is also, as the ReleaseCriteria page
> points out, essentially a subjective judgment, and in this case I
> think that looking at the forest, rather than the trees, would lead to
> the conclusion that F11 shouldn't ship with these two bugs unfixed.

If we installed Beagle by default I would probably agree with you, but
since we don't I don't think these bugs should be considered a blocker
for release.  But hey that's just my opinion, maybe the QA leads think
differently.

Later,
/B
-- 
Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org>

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bpepple
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E
BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B  CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090522/40f2272f/attachment.sig>

From johannbg at hi.is  Fri May 22 13:56:03 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:56:03 +0000
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is>

On 05/22/2009 01:48 PM, Brian Pepple wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 09:24 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>    
>> I think search is, nowadays, critical functionality, not only because
>> it is widely used, but because it is built into those other two big
>> operating systems Linux is competing with.
>>
>> I think putting out a release in which search is non-functional for
>> the two most important types of data (email and Web pages), when
>> search was functional for those two types of data in the previous
>> release, would be extremely unwise and a big black eye for Fedora.
>>
>> While I understand the need to have relatively sane criteria for what
>> constitutes a release blocker, it is also, as the ReleaseCriteria page
>> points out, essentially a subjective judgment, and in this case I
>> think that looking at the forest, rather than the trees, would lead to
>> the conclusion that F11 shouldn't ship with these two bugs unfixed.
>>      
> If we installed Beagle by default I would probably agree with you, but
> since we don't I don't think these bugs should be considered a blocker
> for release.  But hey that's just my opinion, maybe the QA leads think
> differently.
>
>    
Agreed

Since this is not part of the "default install" it should not be considered
a blocker bug.

JBG
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: johannbg.vcf
Type: text/x-vcard
Size: 356 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090522/2cb5162a/attachment.vcf>

From jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us  Fri May 22 13:59:14 2009
From: jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:59:14 -0400
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is>
Message-ID: <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>

On 05/22/2009 09:56 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> Since this is not part of the "default install" it should not be 
> considered
> a blocker bug.
It seems to me that the fact that Fedora does not have a desktop search 
engine included in its default install could itself be considered a 
significant enough functionality gap to constitute a bug.

   jik



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Fri May 22 14:07:29 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:07:29 -0600
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 20:12 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:09:18AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 13:25 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> > > Based on the recent conversations on this list, I have updated:
> > > 
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
> > > 

> > As the page is generically named, and Fedora is a project with a strong
> > emphasis on F/OSS, I would suggest the page should more prominently
> > discuss and advocate F/OSS alternatives (gnash and swfdec) and position
> > the Adobe plugin as a fallback for cases where those solutions are not
> > sufficient. Also, it should refer more specifically to the Adobe plugin
> > when saying things like "Flash is Non-Free Software". WDYT?
> 
> I added a top-side admonition, taking the text directly from our
> existing [[ForbiddenItems]] page.  We should maintain equivalency
> between those pages.  (I would have liked to transclude just that
> section, but didn't know how.)
> 
> Because, at least, (1) the use of Adobe's plugin is not illegal
> anywhere to our knowledge, and (2) the use of Adobe's software
> repository does not, as far as we know, present problems of potential
> contributory infringement, this page is permissible.  I agree we need
> an admonition to clarify this is an *alternative* to FOSS, not a
> method of first resort for people who care about software freedom.

I think the page now looks great and appropriately commented.

I would, however, challenge you in your statement / implication that
people who would use a proprietary plugin like Adobe Flash on Fedora -
even as a first resort - somehow do not care about software freedom.
That's a very strong and IMO misguided statement to make ideologically
about some very active members of the Fedora community, including me.

I would submit that the vast majority of people using Fedora today DO
care about software freedom and would prefer to see something like
Adobe's plugin released under a GPL (or like) license. But they also
still need to get work done right now. And unless / until Adobe licenses
their code, or gnash and swfdec mature to the point they are reasonable
substitutes for most use cases (it could happen), the non-Free Adobe
plugin and its current licensing terms are a practical compromise.

I really hope you didn't mean what you wrote in the context in which it
appears.

-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein





From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 22 14:10:35 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:40:35 +0530
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is>
	<4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
Message-ID: <4A16B25B.9090103@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/22/2009 07:29 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> On 05/22/2009 09:56 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>> Since this is not part of the "default install" it should not be
>> considered
>> a blocker bug.
> It seems to me that the fact that Fedora does not have a desktop search
> engine included in its default install could itself be considered a
> significant enough functionality gap to constitute a bug.

Maybe but it doesn't seem like either Beagle or Tracker qualifies in its
current state. They are either buggy, leak memory, lack in functionality
or all of these. It is better to have mature solutions when they are
ready as default.

Rahul



From tom.horsley at att.net  Fri May 22 14:08:58 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:08:58 -0400
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
Message-ID: <20090522100858.61ca5a30@zooty>

On Fri, 22 May 2009 09:59:14 -0400
Jonathan Kamens wrote:

> It seems to me that the fact that Fedora does not have a desktop search 
> engine included in its default install could itself be considered a 
> significant enough functionality gap to constitute a bug.

Unless beagle has improved since it was being installed by default
when it first appeared to much fanfare (yet no documentation :-),
I certainly wouldn't want it back.



From al.dunsmuir at sympatico.ca  Fri May 22 14:13:48 2009
From: al.dunsmuir at sympatico.ca (Al Dunsmuir)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:13:48 -0400
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both
	firefox and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <4A16B25B.9090103@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<4A16B25B.9090103@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <405174552.20090522101348@sympatico.ca>

Hello Rahul,

Friday, May 22, 2009, 10:10:35 AM, you wrote:

> On 05/22/2009 07:29 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>> On 05/22/2009 09:56 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>>> Since this is not part of the "default install" it should not be
>>> considered
>>> a blocker bug.
>> It seems to me that the fact that Fedora does not have a desktop search
>> engine included in its default install could itself be considered a
>> significant enough functionality gap to constitute a bug.

> Maybe but it doesn't seem like either Beagle or Tracker qualifies in its
> current state. They are either buggy, leak memory, lack in functionality
> or all of these. It is better to have mature solutions when they are
> ready as default.

> Rahul

I for one would prefer that these remain optional.





From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 22 14:12:57 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:12:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <20090522100858.61ca5a30@zooty>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<20090522100858.61ca5a30@zooty>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221012120.17072@localhost.localdomain>



On Fri, 22 May 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:

>
> Unless beagle has improved since it was being installed by default
> when it first appeared to much fanfare (yet no documentation :-),
> I certainly wouldn't want it back.

I don't know anything about the status of beagle - but as a general rule - 
if some package you used a while back is still around and still being 
worked on then chances are good it has improved.

-sv



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri May 22 14:11:18 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:11:18 +0000
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is>
	<4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
Message-ID: <4A16B286.9070204@hi.is>

On 05/22/2009 01:59 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> On 05/22/2009 09:56 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>> Since this is not part of the "default install" it should not be 
>> considered
>> a blocker bug.
> It seems to me that the fact that Fedora does not have a desktop 
> search engine included in its default install could itself be 
> considered a significant enough functionality gap to constitute a bug.
>
It's not up to QA team(s) to decide what is and what's not included in 
the default install.

You might wanna ask that question in the relevant Fedora *DE mailing 
list to find out why
they choose not to include a desktop search engine in the default install
( fedora-desktop for Gnome users fedora-kde for KDE users etc.. )

JBG
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: johannbg.vcf
Type: text/x-vcard
Size: 356 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090522/0f49102d/attachment.vcf>

From tom.horsley at att.net  Fri May 22 14:22:00 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:22:00 -0400
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221012120.17072@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<20090522100858.61ca5a30@zooty>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221012120.17072@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090522102200.7ffb8584@zooty>

On Fri, 22 May 2009 10:12:57 -0400 (EDT)
Seth Vidal wrote:

> if some package you used a while back is still around and still being 
> worked on then chances are good it has improved.

And if it is open source, chances are good it still has no
documentation :-).



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 22 14:23:27 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:23:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <20090522102200.7ffb8584@zooty>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<20090522100858.61ca5a30@zooty>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221012120.17072@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090522102200.7ffb8584@zooty>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221022430.17072@localhost.localdomain>



On Fri, 22 May 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:

> On Fri, 22 May 2009 10:12:57 -0400 (EDT)
> Seth Vidal wrote:
>
>> if some package you used a while back is still around and still being
>> worked on then chances are good it has improved.
>
> And if it is open source, chances are good it still has no
> documentation :-).

And since it is open source, instead of just being snarky about it - you 
can actually contribute to that project and fix the lack of code.

-sv



From drago01 at gmail.com  Fri May 22 15:48:45 2009
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:48:45 +0200
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with firefox be a 
	release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0905220848r63c6c712o5b3ff77570629d7f@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Jonathan Kamens
<jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us> wrote:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477639

I just fixed it, feel free to test the fix ;)

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1370775



From mcepl at redhat.com  Fri May 22 15:45:27 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:45:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
Message-ID: <gv6han$9ie$2@ger.gmane.org>

Jonathan Kamens, Fri, 22 May 2009 09:59:14 -0400:
> It seems to me that the fact that Fedora does not have a desktop search
> engine included in its default install could itself be considered a
> significant enough functionality gap to constitute a bug.

If we had one, than I guess it would be tracker, not beagle, IMHO.

Mat?j



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Fri May 22 15:55:39 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:55:39 -0600
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221022430.17072@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<20090522100858.61ca5a30@zooty>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221012120.17072@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090522102200.7ffb8584@zooty>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221022430.17072@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243007739.3001.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 10:23 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 22 May 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 22 May 2009 10:12:57 -0400 (EDT)
> > Seth Vidal wrote:
> >
> >> if some package you used a while back is still around and still being
> >> worked on then chances are good it has improved.
> >
> > And if it is open source, chances are good it still has no
> > documentation :-).
> 
> And since it is open source, instead of just being snarky about it - you 
> can actually contribute to that project and fix the lack of code.

Quote alleged from the book, "Real Programmers Don't Eat Quiche" on
documenting your code: "Look, if it was hard to write, it should be hard
to understand!" :) 

-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein





From stickster at gmail.com  Fri May 22 15:57:42 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:57:42 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 08:07 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 20:12 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:09:18AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 13:25 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> > > > Based on the recent conversations on this list, I have updated:
> > > > 
> > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
> > > > 
> 
> > > As the page is generically named, and Fedora is a project with a strong
> > > emphasis on F/OSS, I would suggest the page should more prominently
> > > discuss and advocate F/OSS alternatives (gnash and swfdec) and position
> > > the Adobe plugin as a fallback for cases where those solutions are not
> > > sufficient. Also, it should refer more specifically to the Adobe plugin
> > > when saying things like "Flash is Non-Free Software". WDYT?
> > 
> > I added a top-side admonition, taking the text directly from our
> > existing [[ForbiddenItems]] page.  We should maintain equivalency
> > between those pages.  (I would have liked to transclude just that
> > section, but didn't know how.)
> > 
> > Because, at least, (1) the use of Adobe's plugin is not illegal
> > anywhere to our knowledge, and (2) the use of Adobe's software
> > repository does not, as far as we know, present problems of potential
> > contributory infringement, this page is permissible.  I agree we need
> > an admonition to clarify this is an *alternative* to FOSS, not a
> > method of first resort for people who care about software freedom.
> 
> I think the page now looks great and appropriately commented.
> 
> I would, however, challenge you in your statement / implication that
> people who would use a proprietary plugin like Adobe Flash on Fedora -
> even as a first resort - somehow do not care about software freedom.
> That's a very strong and IMO misguided statement to make ideologically
> about some very active members of the Fedora community, including me.
> 
> I would submit that the vast majority of people using Fedora today DO
> care about software freedom and would prefer to see something like
> Adobe's plugin released under a GPL (or like) license. But they also
> still need to get work done right now. And unless / until Adobe licenses
> their code, or gnash and swfdec mature to the point they are reasonable
> substitutes for most use cases (it could happen), the non-Free Adobe
> plugin and its current licensing terms are a practical compromise.
> 
> I really hope you didn't mean what you wrote in the context in which it
> appears.

I think you inferred something I didn't mean.  I wrote that Adobe Flash
was "not a method of *first resort* for people who care about software
freedom." (emphasis added)

>From what you said above, I gather that Adobe Flash was not a method of
first resort for you.  You tried gnash and swfdec, and found that they
were not yet at the level of capability needed to support your work.
Only then did you resort to Adobe Flash.  And that's precisely the case
I thought I was making.  I have no doubt about your commitment to
software freedom! :-)

I am in the exact same boat.  I need Flash frequently to view
proceedings from conferences and on other sites where I track
information about Fedora.  I try swfdec and gnash regularly to see how
they're working, and if I can get reasonably close to information that
would help the projects, I file bugs.  And then I resort to Adobe Flash
after that.

There are probably people using Fedora who don't care as much about
software freedom, and just want a working Adobe Flash.  For them, it may
be a matter of first resort, and so that admonition hopefully tells them
there are alternatives that may work for them, depending on the
Flash-based sites they frequent.

Is there a better way I could put this so it's not misunderstood?

-- 
Paul W. Frields
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
  http://paul.frields.org/   -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug



From stymar at alcatel-lucent.com  Fri May 22 16:43:12 2009
From: stymar at alcatel-lucent.com (Styma, Robert E (Robert))
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:43:12 -0500
Subject: Please help smoke test Fedora 11 installation! - dmraid
In-Reply-To: <1242937880.22894.50.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1242329153.2923.929.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1242937880.22894.50.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <A2066D3A76185142903B298874762B7002D112AB@ILEXC2U03.ndc.lucent.com>

I downloaded the Fedora 11 Pre version last night and transferred
the image onto an NFS server.  I then burned the boot.iso from 
the images directory and tried an NFS install on the Dell GX150 I
have for such tests.  The results were more disappointing than
with Fedora 10.

1.  Starting with Fedora 10, the boot.iso disk does not prompt you for
    the install method unless you press the TAB key and add the 
    parameter askmethod to the parameters.  This is not how it is 
    documented and took a while to figure out.  If you just press 
    enter, it goes right to anaconda and says:
    "Local Installation Media Found"
    It then tries to use the boot.iso CD as the install media which
    of course does not work.  The correction is to add the askmethod
    parm to default parameters on the boot.iso image.  Having the
    default action be something that does not work is not good.

2.  This started with the Fedora 11 Pre install.
    The boot.iso image fails to start X on the GX150.  Previous versions
    of Fedora do start the X server.  The card in the GX150 is marked
    Nvidia 180-p0019-0100-A02.  There is also onboard video.  I took the
    card out and the X server did start although the background had
    junk in it.  I don't know what that card is.

3.  On the run with the video card which would not start, it asked me if
    I wanted to try and start VNC so I could use an different machine's
    display to do the install or continue in text mode.  I picked VNC
even
    though it had picked a DHCP address which I did not know (Pick my
own
    address next time).  There were a couple of shutdown messages ending
    with a message that it was safe to reboot my computer.

I created bug 502229 against anaconda-images (best guess)

Bob S
Phoenix, AZ
    


> 
> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 12:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Hi, everyone! As you no doubt are aware, we're getting close to the
> > final release of Fedora 11. For anyone who has the time, it would be
> > really useful to get some final smoke testing of the 
> installer. If you
> > have some spare time and disk space - either on a real system, or a
> > virtual one - please take an hour or two to run an installation of
> > Rawhide, using the network installation method, and make sure it
> > completes without any really serious problems. We're particularly
> > interested in problems at the partitioning stage, since the storage
> > rewrite was the biggest and most problematic change in the 
> installer for
> > Fedora 11.
> > 
> > Even if you have a slow connection and don't have time to 
> complete the
> > installation, you can get to and through the partitioning stage
> > relatively quickly, and that's very valuable testing (we 
> need to test it
> > on as many different disks, layouts, LVM / RAID setups etc 
> as possible).
> > 
> > If you do encounter any problems, please file a bug, but 
> also mail the
> > list so the bug can be reviewed to see if it should go onto 
> the blocker
> > list for final release. At this point we're mostly looking 
> for really
> > serious stuff, and regressions from the preview release in 
> particular.
> > Official guidance from the Anaconda folks: "Any bugs 
> introduced since
> > F-11-Beta that also are data corrupters, panics, failures 
> to install in
> > "reasonable" configuration"
> > 
> > There's a test matrix on the Wiki where you can report results:
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC_Install_Test_Results
> > 
> > It works backwards to most test day setups: instead of you 
> looking at
> > the test cases and picking which to run, you should just 
> run an install,
> > and if you hit problems, look through the list of test 
> cases to figure
> > out which one it's appropriate to send your report to. Hopefully the
> > list of test cases covers all scenarios :)
> 
> Anyone have access to dmraid storage hardware?  I'm interested to know
> how the latest anaconda looks in a dmraid storage setup.
> 
> If you have any experiences to share, please drop them into the wiki
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC_Install_Test_R
> esults#Storage_Devices) under the dmraid test case [1] or 
> feel free to reply here.
> 
> Thanks,
> James
> 
> [1]
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_partitioni
> ng_dmraid_rootfs
> 
> 



From an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com  Fri May 22 16:45:51 2009
From: an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com (Allen Kistler)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:45:51 -0500
Subject: Release Criteria
Message-ID: <4A16D6BF.8010608@yahoo.com>

was: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with firefox
	be a release blocker?

Brian Pepple wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 09:13 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477639
> 
> No, I don't believe that meets the release blocker criteria.
> 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/ReleaseCriteria

So in a slightly different direction...

All the release criteria on the referenced page are about booting and 
running, which makes sense as far as it goes, but what about shutting 
down?  Although they're mostly fixed now, there was a series of bugs 
dealing with F11 being unable under certain conditions to shut down 
without the use of the power button.

It's a generic enough condition, I think it should probably apply to any 
release of any OS, maybe here with wording something like "installed 
system MUST be able to shut down or reboot from any runlevel" and 
perhaps with an additional "installed system SHOULD be able to change 
between any two runlevels."

For most wikis, I'd have put the question on the Talk page, but 
ReleaseCriteria doesn't have a Talk page.

Anyway, thoughts?



From idht4n at gmail.com  Fri May 22 16:37:10 2009
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:37:10 -0700
Subject: gdb crash in f11-preview
In-Reply-To: <b79371120905180932r5ad388e4v203f0a763875ace@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120905180932r5ad388e4v203f0a763875ace@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b79371120905220937t57c64dc4x3d78a604a4c786e1@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:32 AM, David L wrote:
> When I run gdb under emacs and attach to a gdbserver session,
> I get an error like this:
>
> A problem internal to GDB has been detected,
> further debugging may prove unreliable.
> Quit this debugging session? (y or n) y
> ../../gdb/findvar.c:300: internal-error: value_of_register_lazy:
> Assertion `frame_id_p (get_frame_id (frame))' failed.
> A problem internal to GDB has been detected,
> further debugging may prove unreliable.
> Create a core file of GDB? (y or n) y
>
FYI - This problem doesn't seem to happen with emacs
built from cvs today.

    David



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Fri May 22 17:07:29 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:07:29 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>

Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 08:07 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 20:12 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>     
>>> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:09:18AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 13:25 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Based on the recent conversations on this list, I have updated:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> As the page is generically named, and Fedora is a project with a strong
>>>> emphasis on F/OSS, I would suggest the page should more prominently
>>>> discuss and advocate F/OSS alternatives (gnash and swfdec) and position
>>>> the Adobe plugin as a fallback for cases where those solutions are not
>>>> sufficient. Also, it should refer more specifically to the Adobe plugin
>>>> when saying things like "Flash is Non-Free Software". WDYT?
>>>>         
>>> I added a top-side admonition, taking the text directly from our
>>> existing [[ForbiddenItems]] page.  We should maintain equivalency
>>> between those pages.  (I would have liked to transclude just that
>>> section, but didn't know how.)
>>>
>>> Because, at least, (1) the use of Adobe's plugin is not illegal
>>> anywhere to our knowledge, and (2) the use of Adobe's software
>>> repository does not, as far as we know, present problems of potential
>>> contributory infringement, this page is permissible.  I agree we need
>>> an admonition to clarify this is an *alternative* to FOSS, not a
>>> method of first resort for people who care about software freedom.
>>>       
>> I think the page now looks great and appropriately commented.
>>
>> I would, however, challenge you in your statement / implication that
>> people who would use a proprietary plugin like Adobe Flash on Fedora -
>> even as a first resort - somehow do not care about software freedom.
>> That's a very strong and IMO misguided statement to make ideologically
>> about some very active members of the Fedora community, including me.
>>
>> I would submit that the vast majority of people using Fedora today DO
>> care about software freedom and would prefer to see something like
>> Adobe's plugin released under a GPL (or like) license. But they also
>> still need to get work done right now. And unless / until Adobe licenses
>> their code, or gnash and swfdec mature to the point they are reasonable
>> substitutes for most use cases (it could happen), the non-Free Adobe
>> plugin and its current licensing terms are a practical compromise.
>>
>> I really hope you didn't mean what you wrote in the context in which it
>> appears.
>>     
>
> I think you inferred something I didn't mean.  I wrote that Adobe Flash
> was "not a method of *first resort* for people who care about software
> freedom." (emphasis added)
>
> >From what you said above, I gather that Adobe Flash was not a method of
> first resort for you.  You tried gnash and swfdec, and found that they
> were not yet at the level of capability needed to support your work.
> Only then did you resort to Adobe Flash.  And that's precisely the case
> I thought I was making.  I have no doubt about your commitment to
> software freedom! :-)
>
> I am in the exact same boat.  I need Flash frequently to view
> proceedings from conferences and on other sites where I track
> information about Fedora.  I try swfdec and gnash regularly to see how
> they're working, and if I can get reasonably close to information that
> would help the projects, I file bugs.  And then I resort to Adobe Flash
> after that.
>
> There are probably people using Fedora who don't care as much about
> software freedom, and just want a working Adobe Flash.  For them, it may
> be a matter of first resort, and so that admonition hopefully tells them
> there are alternatives that may work for them, depending on the
> Flash-based sites they frequent.
>
> Is there a better way I could put this so it's not misunderstood?
>
>   
Being first and foremost a marketing guy, no I do not believe you could 
have put it any better.
There is also freedom of choice. Those that would use adobe as the a 
first choice are not freedom haters.
You never used those words but your tone suggested it to me. It was a 
slight and I read it as such.

Edward (TK009)



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Fri May 22 17:09:35 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:09:35 +0200
Subject: Release Criteria
References: <4A16D6BF.8010608@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <gv6m8f$rme$1@ger.gmane.org>

Allen Kistler wrote:
> All the release criteria on the referenced page are about booting and
> running, which makes sense as far as it goes, but what about shutting
> down?  Although they're mostly fixed now, there was a series of bugs
> dealing with F11 being unable under certain conditions to shut down
> without the use of the power button.

You can always hit the power button if the system fails to shutdown, so it
isn't really critical.

The idea is that everything which can be fixed in an update is not
release-critical.

        Kevin Kofler



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Fri May 22 17:13:02 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:13:02 +0200
Subject: Flash instructions updated
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost> <4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gv6meu$rme$2@ger.gmane.org>

TK009 wrote:
> There is also freedom of choice. Those that would use adobe as the a
> first choice are not freedom haters.

The freedom to enslave yourself is not freedom. Choosing a solution which
doesn't give you the freedoms you deserve is not freedom. Read Richard
Stallman's essays on the matter.

        Kevin Kofler



From david at gnsa.us  Fri May 22 17:24:56 2009
From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:24:56 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> 
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain> 
	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain> 
	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost> <4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d6e6dfeb0905221024v68813d6bqcc785baf6d6f7be7@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:07 PM, TK009 <john.brown009 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 08:07 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 20:12 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:09:18AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 13:25 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Based on the recent conversations on this list, I have updated:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As the page is generically named, and Fedora is a project with a strong
>>>>> emphasis on F/OSS, I would suggest the page should more prominently
>>>>> discuss and advocate F/OSS alternatives (gnash and swfdec) and position
>>>>> the Adobe plugin as a fallback for cases where those solutions are not
>>>>> sufficient. Also, it should refer more specifically to the Adobe plugin
>>>>> when saying things like "Flash is Non-Free Software". WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I added a top-side admonition, taking the text directly from our
>>>> existing [[ForbiddenItems]] page. ?We should maintain equivalency
>>>> between those pages. ?(I would have liked to transclude just that
>>>> section, but didn't know how.)
>>>>
>>>> Because, at least, (1) the use of Adobe's plugin is not illegal
>>>> anywhere to our knowledge, and (2) the use of Adobe's software
>>>> repository does not, as far as we know, present problems of potential
>>>> contributory infringement, this page is permissible. ?I agree we need
>>>> an admonition to clarify this is an *alternative* to FOSS, not a
>>>> method of first resort for people who care about software freedom.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think the page now looks great and appropriately commented.
>>>
>>> I would, however, challenge you in your statement / implication that
>>> people who would use a proprietary plugin like Adobe Flash on Fedora -
>>> even as a first resort - somehow do not care about software freedom.
>>> That's a very strong and IMO misguided statement to make ideologically
>>> about some very active members of the Fedora community, including me.
>>>
>>> I would submit that the vast majority of people using Fedora today DO
>>> care about software freedom and would prefer to see something like
>>> Adobe's plugin released under a GPL (or like) license. But they also
>>> still need to get work done right now. And unless / until Adobe licenses
>>> their code, or gnash and swfdec mature to the point they are reasonable
>>> substitutes for most use cases (it could happen), the non-Free Adobe
>>> plugin and its current licensing terms are a practical compromise.
>>>
>>> I really hope you didn't mean what you wrote in the context in which it
>>> appears.
>>>
>>
>> I think you inferred something I didn't mean. ?I wrote that Adobe Flash
>> was "not a method of *first resort* for people who care about software
>> freedom." (emphasis added)
>>
>> >From what you said above, I gather that Adobe Flash was not a method of
>> first resort for you. ?You tried gnash and swfdec, and found that they
>> were not yet at the level of capability needed to support your work.
>> Only then did you resort to Adobe Flash. ?And that's precisely the case
>> I thought I was making. ?I have no doubt about your commitment to
>> software freedom! :-)
>>
>> I am in the exact same boat. ?I need Flash frequently to view
>> proceedings from conferences and on other sites where I track
>> information about Fedora. ?I try swfdec and gnash regularly to see how
>> they're working, and if I can get reasonably close to information that
>> would help the projects, I file bugs. ?And then I resort to Adobe Flash
>> after that.
>>
>> There are probably people using Fedora who don't care as much about
>> software freedom, and just want a working Adobe Flash. ?For them, it may
>> be a matter of first resort, and so that admonition hopefully tells them
>> there are alternatives that may work for them, depending on the
>> Flash-based sites they frequent.
>>
>> Is there a better way I could put this so it's not misunderstood?
>>
>>
>
> Being first and foremost a marketing guy, no I do not believe you could have
> put it any better.
> There is also freedom of choice. Those that would use adobe as the a first
> choice are not freedom haters.
> You never used those words but your tone suggested it to me. It was a slight
> and I read it as such.
>
> Edward (TK009)

It's not a slight - just the way things are. People who care about
software freedom don't willingly choose to perpetuate non-free
software. ie, people who care about software freedom use ogg instead
of mp3, use free video drivers, instead of proprietary blobs.
It's a akin to the difference between a vegetarian and omnivore. If
you are a vegetarian you don't willingly eat meat. There is no slight
intended or inferred, but you can't be a vegetarian and eat prime rib,
you are an omnivore (or perhaps carnivore, but it's unlikely that you
only consume meat). Those terms aren't slights, it's just the way
things are. Admittedly we don't have nice labels to attach to 'people
who care about free software' and 'people who don't care about free
software'; but the situation is analogous.



From stickster at gmail.com  Fri May 22 17:46:07 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:46:07 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <d6e6dfeb0905221024v68813d6bqcc785baf6d6f7be7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost> <4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>
	<d6e6dfeb0905221024v68813d6bqcc785baf6d6f7be7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090522174607.GH3699@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 01:24:56PM -0400, David Nalley wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:07 PM, TK009 <john.brown009 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >>
> >> There are probably people using Fedora who don't care as much about
> >> software freedom, and just want a working Adobe Flash. ?For them, it may
> >> be a matter of first resort, and so that admonition hopefully tells them
> >> there are alternatives that may work for them, depending on the
> >> Flash-based sites they frequent.
> >>
> >> Is there a better way I could put this so it's not misunderstood?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Being first and foremost a marketing guy, no I do not believe you could have
> > put it any better.
> > There is also freedom of choice. Those that would use adobe as the a first
> > choice are not freedom haters.
> > You never used those words but your tone suggested it to me. It was a slight
> > and I read it as such.
> >
> It's not a slight - just the way things are. People who care about
> software freedom don't willingly choose to perpetuate non-free
> software. ie, people who care about software freedom use ogg instead
> of mp3, use free video drivers, instead of proprietary blobs.
> It's a akin to the difference between a vegetarian and omnivore. If
> you are a vegetarian you don't willingly eat meat. There is no slight
> intended or inferred, but you can't be a vegetarian and eat prime rib,
> you are an omnivore (or perhaps carnivore, but it's unlikely that you
> only consume meat). Those terms aren't slights, it's just the way
> things are. Admittedly we don't have nice labels to attach to 'people
> who care about free software' and 'people who don't care about free
> software'; but the situation is analogous.

I think a simple way of putting this is, "not caring" is not the same
as "hating."

I don't care particularly about asparagus farming, but I certainly
don't hate it or the people who care about it.  We all pick the things
that really matter to us, and the rest doesn't automatically go into a
"hate" pile.

Fedora respects people's right to choose, and so do I.  That's why I
worked on that page! :-)

-- 
Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
  http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug



From cry_regarder at yahoo.com  Fri May 22 17:45:52 2009
From: cry_regarder at yahoo.com (Cry)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:45:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Package gallery2-ffmpeg-2.3-11.fc11.noarch.rpm is not signed
Message-ID: <loom.20090522T174406-451@post.gmane.org>

yum update on rawhide is borking again on unsigned packages.  What is breaking
down in the flow?

22 May, 1040AM (LA Time):

after a yum clean all, yum update.
Package gallery2-ffmpeg-2.3-11.fc11.noarch.rpm is not signed



From jkeating at redhat.com  Fri May 22 17:49:02 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:49:02 -0700
Subject: Package gallery2-ffmpeg-2.3-11.fc11.noarch.rpm is not signed
In-Reply-To: <loom.20090522T174406-451@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20090522T174406-451@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1243014542.10686.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 17:45 +0000, Cry wrote:
> 
> yum update on rawhide is borking again on unsigned packages.  What is breaking
> down in the flow?

The break down was that I was supposed to get back online and sign
packages before the rawhide compose, only I got tied up with family
issues and could not make it back online.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090522/ff6f1bb1/attachment.sig>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 22 17:59:33 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:59:33 -0700
Subject: Hi
In-Reply-To: <7d371eca0905211714m457a62b6ha3b31e7196dd5d31@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7d371eca0905211714m457a62b6ha3b31e7196dd5d31@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243015173.16232.18.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 20:14 -0400, Alex Turner wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm very glad to join at Fedora Bug Zappers Team. I have working a lot
> with Fedora and Red Hat Linux  since some years ago. So, let's time to
> 
> contribute with the project.
> 
> I have some experience in programming, like C++ PHP Ruby C Obj-C Applescript (not really a lang but a lang anyways), python, boo,  C
> 
> So, let me introduce myself.
> 
> My name is Alex Turner, I live at Ann Arbor MI
> 
> USA. I use windows 7, mac os x, and have used ubuntu but have gotten tired of it and want to try something new like fedora.
> That was 1 year ago.  Now I use windws 7, mac os x, 
> and fedora for developing Operating systems (for purposes like fun and a challenge) and using it as a fun operating system.

Welcome, Alex! Thanks for signing up. I have sponsored your membership
request, you're one of us now ;)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From dgboles at comcast.net  Fri May 22 18:05:26 2009
From: dgboles at comcast.net (David)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:05:26 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <20090522174607.GH3699@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost>
	<4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>	<d6e6dfeb0905221024v68813d6bqcc785baf6d6f7be7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090522174607.GH3699@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A16E966.6060007@comcast.net>

On 5/22/2009 1:46 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 01:24:56PM -0400, David Nalley wrote:
>> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:07 PM, TK009 <john.brown009 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It's not a slight - just the way things are. People who care about
>> software freedom don't willingly choose to perpetuate non-free
>> software. ie, people who care about software freedom use ogg instead
>> of mp3, use free video drivers, instead of proprietary blobs.
>> It's a akin to the difference between a vegetarian and omnivore. If
>> you are a vegetarian you don't willingly eat meat. There is no slight
>> intended or inferred, but you can't be a vegetarian and eat prime rib,
>> you are an omnivore (or perhaps carnivore, but it's unlikely that you
>> only consume meat). Those terms aren't slights, it's just the way
>> things are. Admittedly we don't have nice labels to attach to 'people
>> who care about free software' and 'people who don't care about free
>> software'; but the situation is analogous.
> 
> I think a simple way of putting this is, "not caring" is not the same
> as "hating."
> 
> I don't care particularly about asparagus farming, but I certainly
> don't hate it or the people who care about it.  We all pick the things
> that really matter to us, and the rest doesn't automatically go into a
> "hate" pile.
> 
> Fedora respects people's right to choose, and so do I.  That's why I
> worked on that page! :-)
> 




Just keep repeating to yourself, "Linux is and OS...  Linux is not a
cause...   Linux is and OS...   Linux is not a cause..."

:-)

-- 


  David



From eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net  Fri May 22 18:10:49 2009
From: eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net (stan)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:10:49 -0700
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <1243007739.3001.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is>
	<4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<20090522100858.61ca5a30@zooty>	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221012120.17072@localhost.localdomain>	<20090522102200.7ffb8584@zooty>	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221022430.17072@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007739.3001.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A16EAA9.7010309@cox.net>

Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 10:23 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 May 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 22 May 2009 10:12:57 -0400 (EDT)
>>> Seth Vidal wrote:
>>>
>>>> if some package you used a while back is still around and still being
>>>> worked on then chances are good it has improved.
>>> And if it is open source, chances are good it still has no
>>> documentation :-).
>> And since it is open source, instead of just being snarky about it - you 
>> can actually contribute to that project and fix the lack of code.
> 
> Quote alleged from the book, "Real Programmers Don't Eat Quiche" on
> documenting your code: "Look, if it was hard to write, it should be hard
> to understand!" :) 
> 
Speaking as an (ex?) programmer, writing the code is fun, writing the documentation is pure drudgery.  And really, the 
only person who can realistically write documentation is the programmer.  They know all the ins and outs of the code, 
and the functionality they programmed in.  It can be done through an intermediary, someone who questions the programmers 
and finds out the functionality and then writes it in comprehensible language, but the chance that someone unfamiliar 
with the code is going to write decent documentation is pretty slim.

Of course, in the days when code was written to specs, the specs were the kernel of the documentation and only needed to 
be modified with changes.  I don't think there are such things as specs in the open source world, just some general 
vision statement of what the software should accomplish, usually about as detailed as the description from the RPM. :-)



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Fri May 22 18:49:08 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:19:08 -0430
Subject: Writing Documentation (was: Re: Shouldn't the fact that beagle
 doesn't work with both firefox and thunderbird be a release blocker?)
In-Reply-To: <4A16EAA9.7010309@cox.net>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is>
	<4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<20090522100858.61ca5a30@zooty>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221012120.17072@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090522102200.7ffb8584@zooty>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221022430.17072@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007739.3001.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16EAA9.7010309@cox.net>
Message-ID: <1243018148.4016.46.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 11:10 -0700, stan wrote:
> Speaking as an (ex?) programmer, writing the code is fun, writing the
> documentation is pure drudgery.  And really, the 
> only person who can realistically write documentation is the
> programmer.  They know all the ins and outs of the code, 
> and the functionality they programmed in.  It can be done through an
> intermediary, someone who questions the programmers 
> and finds out the functionality and then writes it in comprehensible
> language, but the chance that someone unfamiliar 
> with the code is going to write decent documentation is pretty slim.
> 
> Of course, in the days when code was written to specs, the specs were
> the kernel of the documentation and only needed to 
> be modified with changes.  I don't think there are such things as
> specs in the open source world, just some general 
> vision statement of what the software should accomplish, usually about
> as detailed as the description from the RPM. :-)

My view is that if the programmer can't write a lucid description of
what his stuff does, it means he doesn't really understand it himself.
This doesn't mean writing a three-line comment for every internal
function, it means having a coherent conception of what your program is
for and how it works, and being able to explain at least the former at a
level appropriate to the target user.

There's a strong correlation between good code and good docs. The idea
that writing the docs is drudge-work best left to an intern does profund
damage to the image of programming as a serious activity.

poc



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 22 19:00:07 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:00:07 -0700
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
Message-ID: <1243018807.16232.24.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 09:59 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> On 05/22/2009 09:56 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> > Since this is not part of the "default install" it should not be 
> > considered
> > a blocker bug.
> It seems to me that the fact that Fedora does not have a desktop search 
> engine included in its default install could itself be considered a 
> significant enough functionality gap to constitute a bug.

>From personal experience with distributions that do this, I disagree.
Removing Beagle is one of the first things many Mandriva users do, on
installing the system.

It seems that it's just not a function many users find useful, yet.
Maybe a more comprehensive implementation like KDE's Nepomuk will do the
trick. But yeah, desktop search is not very widely used on Linux, and
Beagle not working with Thunderbird / Firefox wouldn't be considered a
blocker by many in QA or releng, I don't believe.

BTW, the correct procedure if you consider an issue to be a blocker is
simply to mark it as one - set it to block F11Blocker. If anyone
currently CCed on the bug disagrees, they will discuss it then.
Otherwise, it will stay so marked, and will be reviewed by the QA /
releng team that reviews blocker issues (which we've been doing for a
couple of weeks now) at the appropriate time. Just adding a comment to
the bug won't do the trick - there's far too many bugs for there to be
people from QA / releng following every single one, looking out for
comments that say "this should be a blocker!"
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 22 19:05:07 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:05:07 -0700
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <4A16E966.6060007@comcast.net>
References: <1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost> <4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>
	<d6e6dfeb0905221024v68813d6bqcc785baf6d6f7be7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090522174607.GH3699@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16E966.6060007@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1243019107.16232.26.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 14:05 -0400, David wrote:

> Just keep repeating to yourself, "Linux is and OS...  Linux is not a
> cause...   Linux is and OS...   Linux is not a cause..."
> 
> :-)

Linux isn't an OS, it's a kernel. Fedora is an OS (and a project which
creates an OS), and Fedora certainly has a cause element to it. Note
that the first of Fedora's four pillars is Freedom. :) The Fedora
project is not a project to create the best-working operating system at
a given moment in time with no regard to the freedom of the code it
contains, so in this respect, your position does not match that of the
Fedora project in general.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From tom.horsley at att.net  Fri May 22 20:00:35 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:00:35 -0400
Subject: Writing Documentation (was: Re: Shouldn't the fact that beagle
 doesn't work with both firefox and thunderbird be a release
 blocker?)
In-Reply-To: <1243018148.4016.46.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<20090522100858.61ca5a30@zooty>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221012120.17072@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090522102200.7ffb8584@zooty>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221022430.17072@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007739.3001.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16EAA9.7010309@cox.net>
	<1243018148.4016.46.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <20090522160035.61dfa1b3@zooty>

On Fri, 22 May 2009 14:19:08 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> My view is that if the programmer can't write a lucid description of
> what his stuff does, it means he doesn't really understand it himself.

I wouldn't go that far. Writing (especially in that ridiculous language
known as English by Americans and American by all other English speakers)
can be a major challenge :-).

But I will say that developers who don't even make the slightest
attempt to document their work are saying (to me anyway): "We
don't want anyone to use this, that's why we keep it a secret."



From dgboles at comcast.net  Fri May 22 20:34:53 2009
From: dgboles at comcast.net (David)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:34:53 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <1243019107.16232.26.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost>
	<4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>	<d6e6dfeb0905221024v68813d6bqcc785baf6d6f7be7@mail.gmail.com>	<20090522174607.GH3699@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16E966.6060007@comcast.net>
	<1243019107.16232.26.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A170C6D.1090104@comcast.net>

On 5/22/2009 3:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 14:05 -0400, David wrote:
> 
>> Just keep repeating to yourself, "Linux is an OS...  Linux is not a
>> cause...   Linux is an OS...   Linux is not a cause..."
>>
>> :-)
> 
> Linux isn't an OS, it's a kernel. Fedora is an OS (and a project which
> creates an OS), and Fedora certainly has a cause element to it. Note
> that the first of Fedora's four pillars is Freedom. :) The Fedora
> project is not a project to create the best-working operating system at
> a given moment in time with no regard to the freedom of the code it
> contains, so in this respect, your position does not match that of the
> Fedora project in general.


Just how often have you heard someone answer, when asked, 'what OS do
you use?' Something other than 'Linux'? Seldom is the name of the
distribution used.

And that was not my point anyway. One person here needs a working Flash
for his work so he uses Flash from Adobe. And another person was calling
him, sort of, a 'traitor to the free software cause' because he was not
using the somewhat broken gnash. He did not call it by name. I can think
of several places the gnash does not work.

This is all baloney. Use the tool that will do what you need to do. A
computer is a machine, a toll. Not an altar. Bread on the table beats
hungry every time. IMO.
-- 


  David



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri May 22 20:43:12 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:43:12 -0600
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <4A170C6D.1090104@comcast.net>
References: <1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost> <4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>
	<d6e6dfeb0905221024v68813d6bqcc785baf6d6f7be7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090522174607.GH3699@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16E966.6060007@comcast.net>
	<1243019107.16232.26.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A170C6D.1090104@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1243024992.8229.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 16:34 -0400, David wrote:
> On 5/22/2009 3:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 14:05 -0400, David wrote:
> > 
> >> Just keep repeating to yourself, "Linux is an OS...  Linux is not a
> >> cause...   Linux is an OS...   Linux is not a cause..."
> >>
> >> :-)
> > 
> > Linux isn't an OS, it's a kernel. Fedora is an OS (and a project which
> > creates an OS), and Fedora certainly has a cause element to it. Note
> > that the first of Fedora's four pillars is Freedom. :) The Fedora
> > project is not a project to create the best-working operating system at
> > a given moment in time with no regard to the freedom of the code it
> > contains, so in this respect, your position does not match that of the
> > Fedora project in general.
> 
> 
> Just how often have you heard someone answer, when asked, 'what OS do
> you use?' Something other than 'Linux'? Seldom is the name of the
> distribution used.
> 
> And that was not my point anyway. One person here needs a working Flash
> for his work so he uses Flash from Adobe. And another person was calling
> him, sort of, a 'traitor to the free software cause' because he was not
> using the somewhat broken gnash. He did not call it by name. I can think
> of several places the gnash does not work.
> 
> This is all baloney. Use the tool that will do what you need to do. A
> computer is a machine, a toll. Not an altar. Bread on the table beats
> hungry every time. IMO.
> -- 
> 
> 
>   David
> 
-


Martin Luther King called it majoring in the minors.  I thought this was
about dealing with the cure and not with the problem. 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 22 20:47:20 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 02:17:20 +0530
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <4A170C6D.1090104@comcast.net>
References: <1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost>	<4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>	<d6e6dfeb0905221024v68813d6bqcc785baf6d6f7be7@mail.gmail.com>	<20090522174607.GH3699@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16E966.6060007@comcast.net>	<1243019107.16232.26.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A170C6D.1090104@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4A170F58.2070006@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/23/2009 02:04 AM, David wrote:

> 
> This is all baloney. Use the tool that will do what you need to do. A
> computer is a machine, a toll. Not an altar. Bread on the table beats
> hungry every time. IMO.

I might personally choose to stay hungry on occasions if it means it
brings food to a person who is more hungry. You have a personal stand
point of using whatever tool that fits your needs and value not staying
hungry.

Fedora values are a bit different

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations

It is ok to use a distribution that doesn't match your values perfectly
but it important to recognize that there is such a difference.  This
doesn't mean that everyone who uses Flash is a traitor but again, this
discussion is about a compromise. Fedora's compromise in the case of
Flash is to describe how to install Flash but also warn users that they
are installing proprietary software.

People who value the virtues of Free software over the utilitarian
benefits would choose to use swfdec or gnash and file bug reports when
things don't work. Others would ignore the warning and install the
proprietary software and deal with somehow when they face bugs. Again,
it is a compromise. I doubt you are going to convince everybody who
values free and open source software to abandon their beliefs in favor
of your thinking. It is better to understand that there is a difference
in values and respect that.

Rahul



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 22 20:49:55 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:49:55 -0700
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <4A170C6D.1090104@comcast.net>
References: <1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost> <4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>
	<d6e6dfeb0905221024v68813d6bqcc785baf6d6f7be7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090522174607.GH3699@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16E966.6060007@comcast.net>
	<1243019107.16232.26.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A170C6D.1090104@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1243025395.16232.33.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 16:34 -0400, David wrote:
> On 5/22/2009 3:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 14:05 -0400, David wrote:
> > 
> >> Just keep repeating to yourself, "Linux is an OS...  Linux is not a
> >> cause...   Linux is an OS...   Linux is not a cause..."
> >>
> >> :-)
> > 
> > Linux isn't an OS, it's a kernel. Fedora is an OS (and a project which
> > creates an OS), and Fedora certainly has a cause element to it. Note
> > that the first of Fedora's four pillars is Freedom. :) The Fedora
> > project is not a project to create the best-working operating system at
> > a given moment in time with no regard to the freedom of the code it
> > contains, so in this respect, your position does not match that of the
> > Fedora project in general.

> Just how often have you heard someone answer, when asked, 'what OS do
> you use?' Something other than 'Linux'? Seldom is the name of the
> distribution used.

Sure, and I'm not going around making that 'correction' all the time. In
most contexts it's unimportant. In this one, however, it's important. We
are not working on the somewhat slippery and un-pindownable 'Linux', we
are working on Fedora, a project with very well-defined goals and
priorities.

> And that was not my point anyway. One person here needs a working Flash
> for his work so he uses Flash from Adobe. And another person was calling
> him, sort of, a 'traitor to the free software cause' because he was not
> using the somewhat broken gnash. He did not call it by name. I can think
> of several places the gnash does not work.

No-one called anyone a traitor, you misinterpreted. I was surprised that
anyone was able to take such an adversarial reading of Paul's post, when
it clearly (to my mind) was not so intended.

> This is all baloney. Use the tool that will do what you need to do. A
> computer is a machine, a toll. Not an altar. Bread on the table beats
> hungry every time. IMO.

That's not a debate that's appropriate for this list, but it is clearly
not Fedora's position, either in theory or in fact. We do not include
non-free software in Fedora even where it would lead, in the short term,
to a better 'user experience'. That doesn't mean every Fedora user is
required to follow the free software ideology, but it does have
implications for how issues should be presented on pages that represent
the Fedora project.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Fri May 22 21:06:26 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:36:26 -0430
Subject: Writing Documentation (was: Re: Shouldn't the fact that beagle
 doesn't work with both firefox and thunderbird be a release
 blocker?)
In-Reply-To: <20090522160035.61dfa1b3@zooty>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<20090522100858.61ca5a30@zooty>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221012120.17072@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090522102200.7ffb8584@zooty>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221022430.17072@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007739.3001.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16EAA9.7010309@cox.net>
	<1243018148.4016.46.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<20090522160035.61dfa1b3@zooty>
Message-ID: <1243026386.4016.55.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 16:00 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Fri, 22 May 2009 14:19:08 -0430
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > My view is that if the programmer can't write a lucid description of
> > what his stuff does, it means he doesn't really understand it himself.
> 
> I wouldn't go that far. Writing (especially in that ridiculous language
> known as English by Americans and American by all other English speakers)
> can be a major challenge :-).

If it were easy there wouldn't be any point in this discussion (er ...),
but my point was that *in broad terms* a good programmer will take the
trouble and a poor one won't bother.

> But I will say that developers who don't even make the slightest
> attempt to document their work are saying (to me anyway): "We
> don't want anyone to use this, that's why we keep it a secret."

Agreed.

poc



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Fri May 22 21:34:39 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 23:34:39 +0200
Subject: Flash instructions updated
References: <1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost>
	<4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>	<d6e6dfeb0905221024v68813d6bqcc785baf6d6f7be7@mail.gmail.com>	<20090522174607.GH3699@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16E966.6060007@comcast.net>
	<1243019107.16232.26.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A170C6D.1090104@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <gv75pf$9hl$1@ger.gmane.org>

David wrote:
> Just how often have you heard someone answer, when asked, 'what OS do
> you use?' Something other than 'Linux'?

That doesn't make it any more correct. Even if everyone claims that 2=1 or
that pi=3, that doesn't make it any more true.

Linux is a kernel. The OS is called GNU/Linux. Fedora is one distribution of
GNU/Linux. There are others. But none of them is just Linux, Linux doesn't
work on its own, without a libc, a shell etc.

        Kevin Kofler



From davidsen at tmr.com  Fri May 22 21:39:41 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:39:41 -0400
Subject: Bluetooth enable in fc11?
Message-ID: <4A171B9D.209@tmr.com>

I have loaded all the "bluez*" stuff, dmesg shows no errors in the bluetooth 
lines, is there some tool google didn't show to duplicate the Windows behavior 
of showing BT devices nearby and offering to connect to them. I really would 
like to use a BT headset, and maybe use BT for a printer, but there just doesn't 
seem to be any such app, so I assume I have to install yet more packages.

Under Windows the system see headsets, cell phones, a printer, and an "other 
device" which is unidentified. I would think this would be common enough to work 
out of the box, but it doesn't even work under fc10.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Fri May 22 21:36:45 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 23:36:45 +0200
Subject: Package gallery2-ffmpeg-2.3-11.fc11.noarch.rpm is not signed
References: <loom.20090522T174406-451@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <gv75td$9hl$2@ger.gmane.org>

Cry wrote:
> gallery2-ffmpeg

Huh? Why is this in Fedora at all?

        Kevin Kofler



From stickster at gmail.com  Fri May 22 21:42:36 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:42:36 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <gv75pf$9hl$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost> <4A16DBD1.6080200@gmail.com>
	<d6e6dfeb0905221024v68813d6bqcc785baf6d6f7be7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090522174607.GH3699@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16E966.6060007@comcast.net>
	<1243019107.16232.26.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A170C6D.1090104@comcast.net> <gv75pf$9hl$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20090522214236.GG15605@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:34:39PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> David wrote:
> > Just how often have you heard someone answer, when asked, 'what OS do
> > you use?' Something other than 'Linux'?
> 
> That doesn't make it any more correct. Even if everyone claims that 2=1 or
> that pi=3, that doesn't make it any more true.
> 
> Linux is a kernel. The OS is called GNU/Linux. Fedora is one distribution of
> GNU/Linux. There are others. But none of them is just Linux, Linux doesn't
> work on its own, without a libc, a shell etc.

And with that, and no disrespect intended to anyone present, this
thread has now reached its useful conclusion.  :-)  Back to testing!

-- 
Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
  http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug



From davidsen at tmr.com  Fri May 22 21:48:14 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:48:14 -0400
Subject: Question: Differences between F11 Beta and F11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <4A15146F.9040704@gmail.com>
References: <4A150D40.2010008@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <4A15146F.9040704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A171D9E.5070509@tmr.com>

Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote:
> Joachim Backes wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there any difference between F11-Beta with all applied updates and 
>> F11-Preview?
>>
> 
> They should be the same,
> No need to download a new ISO,
> Unless you want to.
> 
I have the original beta ISO, the snapshot live CD, and every rpm ever 
downloaded as an upgrade to my installs. Is there some way I can use pungi and 
what I have to create an install ISO with minimal download? I have a bunch of 
things not on the original DVD, I'm looking to build an 8.5GB DVD-DL image and 
burn that, I see no joy in pulling a single byte over a network which I can have 
locally.

I want to pass out some pretty complete media for people to try, DVDs are 
relatively cheap advertising for Fedora.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From davidsen at tmr.com  Fri May 22 22:13:05 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:13:05 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <4A172371.1020208@tmr.com>

Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 08:07 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 20:12 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:

>> I would submit that the vast majority of people using Fedora today DO
>> care about software freedom and would prefer to see something like
>> Adobe's plugin released under a GPL (or like) license. But they also
>> still need to get work done right now. And unless / until Adobe licenses
>> their code, or gnash and swfdec mature to the point they are reasonable
>> substitutes for most use cases (it could happen), the non-Free Adobe
>> plugin and its current licensing terms are a practical compromise.
>>
>> I really hope you didn't mean what you wrote in the context in which it
>> appears.
> 
> I think you inferred something I didn't mean.  I wrote that Adobe Flash
> was "not a method of *first resort* for people who care about software
> freedom." (emphasis added)
> 
I think it depends on your version of "care." And I don't think you will state 
it to everyone's satisfaction, because it's a religious thing. There is a range 
of user choice from "only commercial because it must be good, I paid for it," to 
"I'll do without if I can't use free software." I fall in the "I'll use the free 
tools if they work and something else when necessary."

In the case of Flash, people are locked in not by Adobe, but by the people who 
use the format on their sites and in their files. And FOSS tools are playing a 
game of catch-up, with varying degrees of success.


>>From what you said above, I gather that Adobe Flash was not a method of
> first resort for you.  You tried gnash and swfdec, and found that they
> were not yet at the level of capability needed to support your work.
> Only then did you resort to Adobe Flash.  And that's precisely the case
> I thought I was making.  I have no doubt about your commitment to
> software freedom! :-)
> 
> I am in the exact same boat.  I need Flash frequently to view
> proceedings from conferences and on other sites where I track
> information about Fedora.  I try swfdec and gnash regularly to see how
> they're working, and if I can get reasonably close to information that
> would help the projects, I file bugs.  And then I resort to Adobe Flash
> after that.
> 
Precisely the point, you are locked in by the choices of the media creator. And 
Flash, like mp3, is simply the standard by which people have chosen to operate.

> There are probably people using Fedora who don't care as much about
> software freedom, and just want a working Adobe Flash.  For them, it may
> be a matter of first resort, and so that admonition hopefully tells them
> there are alternatives that may work for them, depending on the
> Flash-based sites they frequent.
> 
> Is there a better way I could put this so it's not misunderstood?
> 
I think you have done a fine job, and as noted you are not going to please 
everyone on this topic. Don't agonize because you haven't made everyone happy, 
adjust your message until all sides are equally unhappy, that way you know you 
are being unbiased.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From farrellj at gmail.com  Fri May 22 22:20:01 2009
From: farrellj at gmail.com (Jason Farrell)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:20:01 -0400
Subject: Package gallery2-ffmpeg-2.3-11.fc11.noarch.rpm is not signed
In-Reply-To: <gv75td$9hl$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20090522T174406-451@post.gmane.org>
	<gv75td$9hl$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <b3c915110905221520s4327c8i7a82c968c4878ba7@mail.gmail.com>

tigervnc is also unsigned.

-- 
Jason
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090522/9f52bd85/attachment.htm>

From davidsen at tmr.com  Fri May 22 22:23:34 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:23:34 -0400
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
In-Reply-To: <4A1478D1.4090602@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>	<a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com>	<4A146CF1.40103@tmr.com>	<4A146D69.308@tmr.com>
	<4A1478D1.4090602@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A1725E6.3060208@tmr.com>

Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> On 05/20/2009 04:51 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>> Okay, we have glibc.x86_64, glibc.i686 installed and glibc.i586
>>> available, why 586 and 686, I thought all the 386 became 586?
>>>
>> Oh, and the i586 and i686 can't be in at the same time.
> 
> Glibc is a relatively special case, where the compiler optimizations
> used to compile it can actually have a significant effect across the
> system, even if the other items are not compiled with the same set of
> optimizations.
> 
> So, to sum it up simply:
> 
> On 32-bit x86
> ===
> Pick One:
> * i586 (good)
> * i686 (better, but only if your hardware supports i686)
> 
> On 64-bit x86_64
> ===
> Pick one:
> * x86_64 (only option)
> 
> On a Multilib system (32bit and 64bit libs installed side by side)
> ===
> * Pick One from the 32-bit x86 list (i586 or i686)
> * Pick One from the 64-bit x86_64 list (x86_64)
> 
> This gets even more complicated on sparc, be glad you're on x86! :)
> 
Thanks, you have clarified it and I'm keeping a copy in my folder of stuff I 
send people when they ask me questions I've eventually answered.

But the package I really want to use is still looking for the .i586 version, and 
the other stuff I have will use that, and performance is not an issue compared 
to network and display slowness.

Steve Dowe wrote:
 >

 > If you're intending on running an GUI application using 32-bit libs, you
 > may also need to install some X components.
 >
 >
 > su -c 'yum install glibc.i686 libXext.i586' should see to both,
 > including dependencies.

I did try erasing glibc.i686 and installing glibc.i586, that got all of the 
programs but one going. One is still whining, I just haven't had time to chase 
it yet, but I think that the two of you have defined the issues well enough to 
get me to a solution eventually when I bang on it one more time. I suspect that 
removing more i686 and dropping to i586 will do the job.

Thanks to both of you, and the other folks who offered suggestions, I appreciate 
the thought.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri May 22 22:30:30 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:30:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Flash instructions updated
Message-ID: <91756.44927.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Fri, 5/22/09, David <dgboles at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: David <dgboles at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Flash instructions updated
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:34 PM
> On 5/22/2009 3:05 PM, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 14:05 -0400, David wrote:
> > 
> >> Just keep repeating to yourself, "Linux is an
> OS...? Linux is not a
> >> cause...???Linux is an
> OS...???Linux is not a cause..."
> >>
> >> :-)
> > 
> > Linux isn't an OS, it's a kernel. Fedora is an OS (and
> a project which
> > creates an OS), and Fedora certainly has a cause
> element to it. Note
> > that the first of Fedora's four pillars is Freedom. :)
> The Fedora
> > project is not a project to create the best-working
> operating system at
> > a given moment in time with no regard to the freedom
> of the code it
> > contains, so in this respect, your position does not
> match that of the
> > Fedora project in general.
> 
> 
> Just how often have you heard someone answer, when asked,
> 'what OS do
> you use?' Something other than 'Linux'? Seldom is the name
> of the
> distribution used.
> 
> And that was not my point anyway. One person here needs a
> working Flash
> for his work so he uses Flash from Adobe. And another
> person was calling
> him, sort of, a 'traitor to the free software cause'
> because he was not
> using the somewhat broken gnash. He did not call it by
> name. I can think
> of several places the gnash does not work.
> 
> This is all baloney. Use the tool that will do what you
> need to do. A
> computer is a machine, a toll. Not an altar. Bread on the
> table beats
> hungry every time. IMO.
> -- 
AMEN!!!
> 
> 
> ? David
> 
> -- 

Exactly.  If the thing does not work, then you have to use the tool that works.  I tried the gnash and it did not do the job.  You have to use the tools that work for you.  

That it does not match the goals of the Fedora project, yes I have to agree with Adam.  But on the other hand, but one has to use the tools that work for our systems and those include the nvidia drivers and the flash plugin from Adobe.  

Linux is a kernel, yes, but the OS is also called Linux(whether people like it or not).  Some call it GNU/Linux and you can create problems with what one writes here.  I call it Linux, he called it Linux you call it Fedora.  

/bye

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri May 22 22:38:33 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:38:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Flash instructions updated
Message-ID: <251582.85787.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Fri, 5/22/09, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Flash instructions updated
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:47 PM
> On 05/23/2009 02:04 AM, David wrote:
> 
> > 
> > This is all baloney. Use the tool that will do what
> you need to do. A
> > computer is a machine, a toll. Not an altar. Bread on
                             ^
                             r

missing `r` here?
> the table beats
> > hungry every time. IMO.
> 
> I might personally choose to stay hungry on occasions if it
> means it
> brings food to a person who is more hungry. You have a
> personal stand
> point of using whatever tool that fits your needs and value
> not staying
> hungry.
> 
> Fedora values are a bit different
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations
> 
> It is ok to use a distribution that doesn't match your
> values perfectly
> but it important to recognize that there is such a
> difference.? This
> doesn't mean that everyone who uses Flash is a traitor but
> again, this
> discussion is about a compromise. Fedora's compromise in
> the case of
> Flash is to describe how to install Flash but also warn
> users that they
> are installing proprietary software.
> 
> People who value the virtues of Free software over the
> utilitarian
> benefits would choose to use swfdec or gnash and file bug
> reports when
> things don't work. Others would ignore the warning and
> install the
> proprietary software and deal with somehow when they face
> bugs. Again,
> it is a compromise. I doubt you are going to convince
> everybody who
> values free and open source software to abandon their
> beliefs in favor
> of your thinking. It is better to understand that there is
> a difference
> in values and respect that.
> 
> Rahul
> 
> -- 

Yes, sometimes we need proprietary software when the free software just does not cut it or does not meet our needs.  Fedora values FREEDOM and we have that FREEDOM to get the stuff from Adobe/Nvidia/.... 

sed -i 's| free_stuff_that_does_not_work | put_propietary_stuff_that_works |g'

People do not have to abandon their right to a FREE system.  But the users have to make that decision themselves not critize them for having to install the proprietary stuff.  The users know that a big WARNING you are on your own.  We cannot help you.  You chose to install the other_stuff then you can't complain to Fedora for doing that.  That is OK.

BTW,
all that stuff that fedora is Free, is only partially right.  Remember the arguments "that old GNU argument", is a ghost of the past.  There are some parts that are also propietary, how come no one says anything about that?  Yes they might be just bits/bytes, but it is not totally 100% free according to FSF :(  

My $0.02 

Regards,

Antonio


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri May 22 22:42:18 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:42:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Flash instructions updated
Message-ID: <419273.55411.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


> That's not a debate that's appropriate for this list, but
> it is clearly
> not Fedora's position, either in theory or in fact. We do
> not include
> non-free software in Fedora even where it would lead, in
> the short term,
> to a better 'user experience'. That doesn't mean every
> Fedora user is
> required to follow the free software ideology, but it does
> have
> implications for how issues should be presented on pages
> that represent
> the Fedora project.
> -- 


 ``We do not include non-free software in Fedora''

Not true, if that were the case, then Fedora would be a 100% free distribution and meet the requirements set by the FSF.  They apparently include something that is not free, might be just a tiny fraction of the whole, but just enough for it not to be 100% free :(

Regards,

Antonio 




      



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 22 22:42:34 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:42:34 -0700
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <91756.44927.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <91756.44927.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1243032154.16232.37.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 15:30 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:

> Exactly.  If the thing does not work, then you have to use the tool
> that works.  I tried the gnash and it did not do the job.  You have to
> use the tools that work for you.  
> 
> That it does not match the goals of the Fedora project, yes I have to
> agree with Adam.  But on the other hand, but one has to use the tools
> that work for our systems and those include the nvidia drivers and the
> flash plugin from Adobe.  

That was never the point here; no-one's trying to tell anyone what to do
on his or her own personal system. Heck, I use the Adobe Flash plugin,
and the NVIDIA proprietary driver. But what we were talking about is a
page on the Fedora Wiki - which should be written with the Fedora
philosophy in mind. That's all.

I think most people who run Fedora would either be free software
purists, or would say "use free software first, but if you can't find
any that works for the job in hand, non-free is okay". The change to the
page that Paul wrote simply states the second - if you care about free
software, a non-free piece of software is clearly the last resort, i.e.,
you use it if nothing free does the job. It probably helps if you think
about the alternative: if you *don't* care about free software, then
there's no reason Adobe Flash would be the last resort, because you
wouldn't give a fig if it were free or not. It would be the first
resort, probably, because it's the plugin from the author of Flash, and
it's what most people use. So you'd pick it *first*, and go to a
third-party alternative only if it didn't work for you. That's the only
distinction being drawn.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From dgboles at comcast.net  Fri May 22 22:39:28 2009
From: dgboles at comcast.net (David)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:39:28 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <4A172371.1020208@tmr.com>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<1242929358.8848.184.camel@adam.local.net>	<20090522001221.GC16658@localhost.localdomain>	<1243001249.2643.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1243007862.4290.10.camel@localhost>
	<4A172371.1020208@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <4A1729A0.6040003@comcast.net>

On 5/22/2009 6:13 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 08:07 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> 
>>
>> I think you inferred something I didn't mean.  I wrote that Adobe Flash
>> was "not a method of *first resort* for people who care about software
>> freedom." (emphasis added)
>>
> I think it depends on your version of "care." And I don't think you will
> state it to everyone's satisfaction, because it's a religious thing.
> There is a range of user choice from "only commercial because it must be
> good, I paid for it," to "I'll do without if I can't use free software."
> I fall in the "I'll use the free tools if they work and something else
> when necessary."
> 
> In the case of Flash, people are locked in not by Adobe, but by the
> people who use the format on their sites and in their files. And FOSS
> tools are playing a game of catch-up, with varying degrees of success.
> 
> 
>> first resort for you.  You tried gnash and swfdec, and found that they
>> were not yet at the level of capability needed to support your work.
>> Only then did you resort to Adobe Flash.  And that's precisely the case
>> I thought I was making.  I have no doubt about your commitment to
>> software freedom! :-)
>>
>> I am in the exact same boat.  I need Flash frequently to view
>> proceedings from conferences and on other sites where I track
>> information about Fedora.  I try swfdec and gnash regularly to see how
>> they're working, and if I can get reasonably close to information that
>> would help the projects, I file bugs.  And then I resort to Adobe Flash
>> after that.
>>
> Precisely the point, you are locked in by the choices of the media
> creator. And Flash, like mp3, is simply the standard by which people
> have chosen to operate.
> 
>> There are probably people using Fedora who don't care as much about
>> software freedom, and just want a working Adobe Flash.  For them, it may
>> be a matter of first resort, and so that admonition hopefully tells them
>> there are alternatives that may work for them, depending on the
>> Flash-based sites they frequent.
>>
>> Is there a better way I could put this so it's not misunderstood?
>>
> I think you have done a fine job, and as noted you are not going to
> please everyone on this topic. Don't agonize because you haven't made
> everyone happy, adjust your message until all sides are equally unhappy,
> that way you know you are being unbiased.


I agree with you.

I work in the construction industry. Many, too many, years. I do not
program, nor do I claim to know much about it.

I use a hammer, of the correct weight and design, to drive nails or
rivets. I use a screwdriver of the correct size and design to turn
screws. Same with wrenches.

I do *not* use the screwdriver to drive nails. Nor the hammer to turn
screws. Or the wrench to paint.

If the tool that I have does not work correctly I get a proper one that
does work.

I feed my family with the money I earn with those tools. I'll be da**ed
if they go hungry because I don't use the proper tool. The one that
works. Just for a cause.
-- 


  David



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 22 22:47:19 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:47:19 -0700
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <419273.55411.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <419273.55411.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1243032439.16232.38.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 15:42 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:

>  ``We do not include non-free software in Fedora''
> 
> Not true, if that were the case, then Fedora would be a 100% free
> distribution and meet the requirements set by the FSF.  They
> apparently include something that is not free, might be just a tiny
> fraction of the whole, but just enough for it not to be 100% free :(

Not quite. Rather, Fedora and the Free Software Foundation disagree on
the definition of 'software'. The FSF considers firmware to be software,
Fedora does not. 
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri May 22 22:47:51 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:47:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Flash instructions updated
Message-ID: <276469.53066.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Fri, 5/22/09, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at> wrote:

> From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> Subject: Re: Flash instructions updated
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 2:34 PM
> David wrote:
> > Just how often have you heard someone answer, when
> asked, 'what OS do
> > you use?' Something other than 'Linux'?
> 
> That doesn't make it any more correct. Even if everyone
> claims that 2=1 or
> that pi=3, that doesn't make it any more true.

\pi \approx 3.14159265 .....

> 
> Linux is a kernel. The OS is called GNU/Linux. Fedora is
> one distribution of
> GNU/Linux. There are others. But none of them is just
> Linux, Linux doesn't
> work on its own, without a libc, a shell etc.
> 
> ? ? ? ? Kevin Kofler
> 
> -- 

And distributions are known as Linux Distributions.  Fedora is one of many and not all are GNU/Linux or at least they put so in their name.  Fedora is simply Fedora Linux not Fedora GNU/Linux.  It is Linux plus all those things that you mentioned gcc ... other apps here.  No one complains except the people that might be on GNU's bandwagon or FSF purists.  Yes they want the attachment GNU/Linux, but others(many others are happy with Linux) not GNU/Linux.

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri May 22 22:56:12 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:56:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Flash instructions updated
Message-ID: <21631.51841.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Fri, 5/22/09, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:

> From: Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Flash instructions updated
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 3:42 PM
> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 15:30 -0700,
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
> 
> > Exactly.? If the thing does not work, then you
> have to use the tool
> > that works.? I tried the gnash and it did not do
> the job.? You have to
> > use the tools that work for you.? 
> > 
> > That it does not match the goals of the Fedora
> project, yes I have to
> > agree with Adam.? But on the other hand, but one
> has to use the tools
> > that work for our systems and those include the nvidia
> drivers and the
> > flash plugin from Adobe.? 
> 
> That was never the point here; no-one's trying to tell
> anyone what to do
> on his or her own personal system. Heck, I use the Adobe
> Flash plugin,
> and the NVIDIA proprietary driver. But what we were talking
> about is a
> page on the Fedora Wiki - which should be written with the
> Fedora
> philosophy in mind. That's all.
> 
> I think most people who run Fedora would either be free
> software
> purists, or would say "use free software first, but if you
> can't find
> any that works for the job in hand, non-free is okay". The
> change to the
> page that Paul wrote simply states the second - if you care
> about free
> software, a non-free piece of software is clearly the last
> resort, i.e.,
> you use it if nothing free does the job. It probably helps
> if you think
> about the alternative: if you *don't* care about free
> software, then
> there's no reason Adobe Flash would be the last resort,
> because you
> wouldn't give a fig if it were free or not. It would be the
> first
> resort, probably, because it's the plugin from the author
> of Flash, and
> it's what most people use. So you'd pick it *first*, and go
> to a
> third-party alternative only if it didn't work for you.
> That's the only
> distinction being drawn.
> -- 


Okay, this argument is reasonable.  It is for the wiki, then the points stated are legitimate and thank you for sharing the points.  Sorry if I came too hard :(

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri May 22 23:03:17 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:03:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Flash instructions updated
Message-ID: <809071.8642.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


> And with that, and no disrespect intended to anyone
> present, this thread has now reached its useful conclusion.?
> :-)? Back to testing!
> 
> -- 

This would depend now on other users and how their beliefs hold.  I came a bit strong here, but I have realized that the instructions were meant for a wiki and ``not to be set in stone'' so I can put my arguments to rest and agree with Adam and Kevin on this.  But also can come back and support David with his arguments as well.  So I'll be quiet but I'll be ready in case someone comes back and tells me that I am wrong, because we all like to be right!

Regards,

Antonio


      



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri May 22 23:58:59 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:58:59 -0500
Subject: Question: Differences between F11 Beta and F11 Preview
In-Reply-To: <4A171D9E.5070509@tmr.com>
References: <4A150D40.2010008@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <4A15146F.9040704@gmail.com>
	<4A171D9E.5070509@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <20090522235859.GA29841@wolff.to>

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 17:48:14 -0400,
  Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
> I have the original beta ISO, the snapshot live CD, and every rpm ever  
> downloaded as an upgrade to my installs. Is there some way I can use 
> pungi and what I have to create an install ISO with minimal download? I 
> have a bunch of things not on the original DVD, I'm looking to build an 
> 8.5GB DVD-DL image and burn that, I see no joy in pulling a single byte 
> over a network which I can have locally.
>
> I want to pass out some pretty complete media for people to try, DVDs are 
> relatively cheap advertising for Fedora.

A partial answer is that you can use createrepo to create a repo out of
a bunch of packages. This would then be usable by other tools. I mostly
use livecd-creator for this kind of thing. You should be able to use
revisor or pungi to build install images. I don't know enough to give
you details though.



From bill at bfccomputing.com  Sat May 23 00:07:24 2009
From: bill at bfccomputing.com (Bill McGonigle)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 20:07:24 -0400
Subject: Package gallery2-ffmpeg-2.3-11.fc11.noarch.rpm is not signed
In-Reply-To: <b3c915110905221520s4327c8i7a82c968c4878ba7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <loom.20090522T174406-451@post.gmane.org>	<gv75td$9hl$2@ger.gmane.org>
	<b3c915110905221520s4327c8i7a82c968c4878ba7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A173E3C.1030605@bfccomputing.com>

On 05/22/2009 06:20 PM, Jason Farrell wrote:
> tigervnc is also unsigned.

That's the one I hit today as well, from download.fedora.redhat.com - 
should we expect that to be updated by now?

Here's what I'm showing for currently unsigned:

   gallery2-2.3-11.fc11.noarch.rpm is unsigned
   ...
   gallery2-zipcart-2.3-11.fc11.noarch.rpm is unsigned
   libatasmart-0.12-2.fc11.i586.rpm is unsigned
   pulseaudio-0.9.15-11.fc11.i586.rpm is unsigned
   pulseaudio-libs-0.9.15-11.fc11.i586.rpm is unsigned
   pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.15-11.fc11.i586.rpm is unsigned
   pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-0.9.15-11.fc11.i586.rpm is unsigned
   pulseaudio-module-gconf-0.9.15-11.fc11.i586.rpm is unsigned
   pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.15-11.fc11.i586.rpm is unsigned
   pulseaudio-utils-0.9.15-11.fc11.i586.rpm is unsigned
   pungi-2.0.16-1.fc11.noarch.rpm is unsigned
   tigervnc-0.0.90-0.10.fc11.i586.rpm is unsigned
   tigervnc-server-0.0.90-0.10.fc11.i586.rpm is unsigned
   tigervnc-server-module-0.0.90-0.10.fc11.i586.rpm is unsigned

by way of, in my i386 repo mirror:

   ls *rpm | xargs -n 1 ~/bin/check-for-signed.sh

check-for-signed.sh:

   #!/bin/sh
   rpm -fK $1 | egrep -qi '(gpg|pgp)' || echo "$1 is unsigned"

It would be great if it the machinery made it impossible to push an 
unsigned package.  It's not a .newkey-level problem, yum will do the 
right thing, but still makes one uncomfortable.  Short of that a cron 
job with find and mtime 0 could at least scream like hell.

My updates repo looks all good.

-Bill

-- 
Bill McGonigle, Owner           Work: 603.448.4440
BFC Computing, LLC              Home: 603.448.1668
http://www.bfccomputing.com/    Cell: 603.252.2606
Twitter, etc.: bill_mcgonigle   Page: 603.442.1833
Email, IM, VOIP: bill at bfccomputing.com
Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/
VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sat May 23 00:09:31 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 02:09:31 +0200
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>	<a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com>	<4A146CF1.40103@tmr.com>	<4A146D69.308@tmr.com>
	<4A1478D1.4090602@redhat.com> <4A1725E6.3060208@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <gv7ers$vf7$1@ger.gmane.org>

Bill Davidsen wrote:
> But the package I really want to use is still looking for the .i586
> version, and the other stuff I have will use that, and performance is not
> an issue compared to network and display slowness.

Huh? glibc.i686 is supposed to be a drop-in replacement for glibc.i586. Many
32-bit systems use the i686 build (only).

        Kevin Kofler



From awilliam at redhat.com  Sat May 23 00:12:59 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:12:59 -0700
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <809071.8642.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <809071.8642.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1243037579.16232.39.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 16:03 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> So I'll be quiet but I'll be ready in case someone comes back and
> tells me that I am wrong, because we all like to be right!

Very true :)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From dgboles at comcast.net  Sat May 23 01:04:38 2009
From: dgboles at comcast.net (David)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 21:04:38 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <809071.8642.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <809071.8642.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A174BA6.8050204@comcast.net>

On 5/22/2009 7:03 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> And with that, and no disrespect intended to anyone
>> present, this thread has now reached its useful conclusion. 
>> :-)  Back to testing!
>>
>> -- 
> 
> This would depend now on other users and how their beliefs hold.  I came a bit strong here, but I have realized that the instructions were meant for a wiki and ``not to be set in stone'' so I can put my arguments to rest and agree with Adam and Kevin on this.  But also can come back and support David with his arguments as well.  So I'll be quiet but I'll be ready in case someone comes back and tells me that I am wrong, because we all like to be right!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Antonio


Perhaps, more than likely, I came on too strong too Antonio.

If I did my apologies to any I may have offended.

As I said, for me a computer is a tool. And when I use the tool it has
to work. Period.

I do not have the time to 'fight the tool' to get it to work.
-- 


  David



From awilliam at redhat.com  Sat May 23 01:40:51 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:40:51 -0700
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <4A174BA6.8050204@comcast.net>
References: <809071.8642.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<4A174BA6.8050204@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1243042851.16232.41.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 21:04 -0400, David wrote:
> On 5/22/2009 7:03 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> >> And with that, and no disrespect intended to anyone
> >> present, this thread has now reached its useful conclusion. 
> >> :-)  Back to testing!
> >>
> >> -- 
> > 
> > This would depend now on other users and how their beliefs hold.  I came a bit strong here, but I have realized that the instructions were meant for a wiki and ``not to be set in stone'' so I can put my arguments to rest and agree with Adam and Kevin on this.  But also can come back and support David with his arguments as well.  So I'll be quiet but I'll be ready in case someone comes back and tells me that I am wrong, because we all like to be right!
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Antonio
> 
> 
> Perhaps, more than likely, I came on too strong too Antonio.
> 
> If I did my apologies to any I may have offended.
> 
> As I said, for me a computer is a tool. And when I use the tool it has
> to work. Period.
> 
> I do not have the time to 'fight the tool' to get it to work.

Wow, who wants a beer and hug and a campfire singalong? We should give
fedora-devel-list some lessons =)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From dgboles at comcast.net  Sat May 23 02:20:54 2009
From: dgboles at comcast.net (David)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 22:20:54 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <1243042851.16232.41.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <809071.8642.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<4A174BA6.8050204@comcast.net>
	<1243042851.16232.41.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A175D86.9080108@comcast.net>

On 5/22/2009 9:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 21:04 -0400, David wrote:
>> On 5/22/2009 7:03 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>>> And with that, and no disrespect intended to anyone
>>>> present, this thread has now reached its useful conclusion. 
>>>> :-)  Back to testing!
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>> This would depend now on other users and how their beliefs hold.  I came a bit strong here, but I have realized that the instructions were meant for a wiki and ``not to be set in stone'' so I can put my arguments to rest and agree with Adam and Kevin on this.  But also can come back and support David with his arguments as well.  So I'll be quiet but I'll be ready in case someone comes back and tells me that I am wrong, because we all like to be right!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Antonio
>>
>> Perhaps, more than likely, I came on too strong too Antonio.
>>
>> If I did my apologies to any I may have offended.
>>
>> As I said, for me a computer is a tool. And when I use the tool it has
>> to work. Period.
>>
>> I do not have the time to 'fight the tool' to get it to work.
> 
> Wow, who wants a beer and hug and a campfire singalong? We should give
> fedora-devel-list some lessons =)


Hi Adam. I'll go for that.  :-)

Fedora is a great Linux distribution. And a lot of very hard work is
done by many people. Just because they want to do that. I get that.

But I get 'hot' when 'zealots / purest types' attack someone that uses
Linux with 'other stuff' with due cause.

Me?

The currently available Linux  Nvdida drivers, nv and nouvou, can not
control my video card.

Some programs (Windows programs) that I need for my work have *no* Linux
clones. And since they are *real* propriety software programs there will
never be Linux clones. There are four of them that connect to over one
million dollars worth of machinery back in the shop. And several others
that I use for other purposes.

They will, none of them, you have got to be kidding, run in Wine.

I duel boot. One (Windows) to make my bucks to feed the kids. Two for
'the other stuff' because I want to do that.

I agree with the user that users Flash. And why. Because I use what does
the job.

Here I duck out.

Bye.
-- 


  David



From joel.rees at gmail.com  Sat May 23 05:21:14 2009
From: joel.rees at gmail.com (Joel Rees)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:21:14 +0900
Subject: Two subscription confirmation requests?
Message-ID: <75951A36-E276-48D9-81BB-A7D24161E23F@gmail.com>

Do we need a heads-up for this?

I just signed on via an e-mail request, but I got two confirmation  
request replies.

I'm a little concerned that there may be a man-in-the-middle attack  
going on.

I'd normally shrug my shoulders and think, administration issues, but  
there's another question I have, which I'll post separately.

Headers look almost identical, the primary difference being that one  
of (what should be) RedHat's internal routing machines is different  
between the two. I'll keep the messages so I can copy the source to  
an admin if somebody wants to check.

Joel Rees



From joel.rees at gmail.com  Sat May 23 05:47:50 2009
From: joel.rees at gmail.com (Joel Rees)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:47:50 +0900
Subject: key issues
Message-ID: <7F87F695-452C-47A2-A9E9-B65F5D92586A@gmail.com>

Installed release candidate on an ancient clamshell iBook about a  
month or so back. Runs very nicely (Netbeans!). Only complaint is  
that we haven't been able to make any progress on an issue where the  
Fedora installer overwrites the Mac OS 9 disk drivers, which I wish I  
had more time to help with.

Last night, about midnight here in Japan, I started a yum update to  
be running while I slept. It completed sometime before five a.m.

Just for fun, I decided to check again about 9:00 a.m., and it shows  
about 200M of new stuff. So I started another update, and after the  
download, I get a prompt for a key:
--------------------------
warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 signature: NOKEY,  
key ID d22e77f2
updates/ 
gpgkey                                                                   
                      | 1.6 kB       00:00
Importing GPG key 0xD22E77F2 "Fedora (11) <fedora at fedoraproject.org>"  
from /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc
Is this ok [y/N]:
--------------------------
I see from the wiki <https://fedoraproject.org/keys> that this is the  
key for Fedora 11 test. I was surprised that I would not have already  
installed the key.

I also saw some posts in the archives here about the key not yet  
being in use as recently as a couple of weeks back, I think it was.

So, is this the right key, and is it okay to depend on it yet?

Joel Rees



From drago01 at gmail.com  Sat May 23 11:27:27 2009
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 13:27:27 +0200
Subject: Bluetooth enable in fc11?
In-Reply-To: <4A171B9D.209@tmr.com>
References: <4A171B9D.209@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0905230427q147e2a58q3b56570ae96ecf0a@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
> I have loaded all the "bluez*" stuff, dmesg shows no errors in the bluetooth
> lines, is there some tool google didn't show to duplicate the Windows
> behavior of showing BT devices nearby and offering to connect to them. I
> really would like to use a BT headset, and maybe use BT for a printer, but
> there just doesn't seem to be any such app, so I assume I have to install
> yet more packages.
>
> Under Windows the system see headsets, cell phones, a printer, and an "other
> device" which is unidentified. I would think this would be common enough to
> work out of the box, but it doesn't even work under fc10.


Just right click on the BT icon in the panel.
Everything needed is installed by default and works just fine.



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May 23 11:52:17 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 07:52:17 -0400
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
In-Reply-To: <gv7ers$vf7$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>	<a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com>	<4A146CF1.40103@tmr.com>	<4A146D69.308@tmr.com>	<4A1478D1.4090602@redhat.com>
	<4A1725E6.3060208@tmr.com> <gv7ers$vf7$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4A17E371.60602@tmr.com>

Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> But the package I really want to use is still looking for the .i586
>> version, and the other stuff I have will use that, and performance is not
>> an issue compared to network and display slowness.
> 
> Huh? glibc.i686 is supposed to be a drop-in replacement for glibc.i586. Many
> 32-bit systems use the i686 build (only).
> 
The original issue is that I have packages which are available in binary form 
which use the 32 bit ".i585" libraries. And since several are (a) huge, (b) 
updated frequently, and (c) not known to be 64 bit functional, I find the path 
of best use is to avoid porting and building them when I can fight the battle of 
libraries once and be done with it.

I may not have made that clear, or due to the age of the thread you may have 
forgotten by now.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From ml.mildred593 at gmail.com  Sat May 23 11:53:33 2009
From: ml.mildred593 at gmail.com (Mildred Ki'Lya)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 13:53:33 +0200
Subject: X11: Maximum number of clients reached
In-Reply-To: <1242664498.3982.16.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <4A0FE7E7.2030101@gmail.com>	<1242653200.21675.431.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1242664498.3982.16.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A17E3BD.80205@gmail.com>

On 05/18/2009 06:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 09:26 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> Check the output of 'sudo lsof -p `pidof Xorg`' when this happens.  This
>> will show you what file descriptors are in use by the X server.  Last I
>> checked this error message was misleading, and could mean either "I've
>> hit the client limit" or "I've run out of file descriptors".
>>     
>
> That would be:
>
> su -c lsof -p `pidof X`

Hi,

So, it happened again. There are 234 opened sockets, and the last file
descriptor seems to be 255u, so perhaps there is a limit there. Any
ideas on how to find the program responsible for that?

Thanks.

Mildred


mildred at kylae:~$ sudo lsof -p `pidof Xorg` | grep socket | wc
-l                                                  ~
234

mildred at kylae:~$ sudo lsof -p `pidof
Xorg`                                                                       
~
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system
/home/mildred/.gvfs
      Output information may be incomplete.
COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE     DEVICE  SIZE/OFF       NODE NAME
Xorg    2093 root  cwd    DIR        8,4      4096     109066 /var/gdm
Xorg    2093 root  rtd    DIR        8,4      4096          2 /
Xorg    2093 root  txt    REG        8,4   1843076     533705
/usr/bin/Xorg (deleted)
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    101440     680018
/lib/libaudit.so.0.0.0
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                35769
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                35765
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                35766
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    581508      34344
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     34464       3002
/usr/lib/libdrm_intel.so.1.0.0
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     19900      37300
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                35770
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     51388      26137
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     55540     679956
/lib/libnss_files-2.10.1.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    261756     680008
/lib/libdbus-1.so.3.4.0
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    509240      19146
/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    102332     680003
/lib/libresolv-2.10.1.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    286876       6602
/usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0.14.0
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4   1803352      12703
/lib/libc-2.10.1.so
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4               680005
/lib/libcom_err.so.2.1
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                25236
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libexa.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     68928       1276
/usr/lib/libhal.so.1.0.0
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    149212        909
/usr/lib/libk5crypto.so.3.1
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                 1262
/usr/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so.2.2
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4      7976     680002
/lib/libkeyutils-1.2.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    152952       8603
/lib/ld-2.10.1.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     22736      37190
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                35764
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    206204     680000
/lib/libm-2.10.1.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     20464     679968
/lib/libdl-2.10.1.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    140408      16171
/lib/libpthread-2.10.1.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     75440      16170
/lib/libz.so.1.2.3
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     25964     565661
/usr/lib/libfontenc.so.1.0.0
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    224148       4413
/usr/lib/libXfont.so.1.4.1
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     25556        996
/usr/lib/libpciaccess.so.0.10.2
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     36848      27948
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     43924     679952
/lib/librt-2.10.1.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4      9656       1751
/usr/lib/libXau.so.6.0.0
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    118312     680004
/lib/libselinux.so.1
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                35768
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                35767
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    156720     680016
/lib/libexpat.so.1.5.2
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    599920       1642
/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.20
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4    172840     680001
/lib/libgcc_s-4.4.0-20090506.so.1
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     17812     680006
/lib/libattr.so.1.1.0
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     15956     680007
/lib/libcap.so.2.16
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                27936
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                28018
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4   2034352      24035
/usr/lib/dri/libdricore.so
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                 1018
/usr/lib/libkrb5.so.3.3
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     38868        888
/usr/lib/libkrb5support.so.0.1
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4   1473700       1293
/usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8k
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        8,4                 1297
/usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8k
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     40316     566190
/usr/lib/libdrm.so.2.4.0
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4     20048       5122
/usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              1998883 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8                43315 /drm mm object
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              3211296 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              8093718 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        8,4  10414200     378070
/usr/share/fonts/sazanami/mincho/sazanami-mincho.ttf
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               425993 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              7798817 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              7766045 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              7962655 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              8060971 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              7733290 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              7700516 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              7929884 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              7897115 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              7667742 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              5144617 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              5111848 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              5079079 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              5046310 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              4980770 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              1015833 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              7634970 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              7602200 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               819219 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               720914 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               688145 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               655376 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              8028175 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               589838 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               557069 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               524300 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              5505047 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               458762 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               491531 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               393224 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8              5013541 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8                50996 /drm mm object
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               884757 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               851988 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               360455 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               327686 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               294917 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8                41664 /drm mm object
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               262148 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               229379 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               196610 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               163841 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8               131072 /SYSV00000000
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8                 7956 /drm mm object
Xorg    2093 root  mem    CHR      226,0                 3810 /dev/dri/card0
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8                 7951 /drm mm object
Xorg    2093 root  mem    CHR        1,1                  548 /dev/mem
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        0,0 268435456       7166
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/resource2_wc
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        0,0    262144       7167
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/resource3
Xorg    2093 root  mem    REG        0,0    524288       7163
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/resource0
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8                41635 /drm mm object
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8                41627 /drm mm object
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8                41626 /drm mm object
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8                19305 /drm mm object
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8                19304 /drm mm object
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8                14587 /drm mm object
Xorg    2093 root  DEL    REG        0,8                 8947 /drm mm object
Xorg    2093 root    0w   REG        8,4    161368       8219
/var/log/Xorg.0.log
Xorg    2093 root    1u  unix 0xed0c5500       0t0       7904 socket
Xorg    2093 root    2w   REG        8,4    152795     106512
/var/log/gdm/:0.log
Xorg    2093 root    3u  unix 0xed0c4e00       0t0       7905
/tmp/.X11-unix/X0
Xorg    2093 root    4r   REG        8,4     29902      20346
/usr/lib/xorg/protocol.txt (deleted)
Xorg    2093 root    5u   CHR        4,1       0t0        480 /dev/tty1
Xorg    2093 root    6w   REG        0,3         0 4026531909 /proc/mtrr
Xorg    2093 root    7u   REG        0,0      4096       7161
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:00.0/config
Xorg    2093 root    8u   REG        0,0       256       7162
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/config
Xorg    2093 root    9w   REG        0,3         0 4026531909 /proc/mtrr
Xorg    2093 root   10u   CHR     10,175       0t0        616 /dev/agpgart
Xorg    2093 root   11u   CHR      226,0       0t0       3810 /dev/dri/card0
Xorg    2093 root   12u   CHR      226,0       0t0       3810 /dev/dri/card0
Xorg    2093 root   13u  unix 0xf287e540       0t0       7957 socket
Xorg    2093 root   14u   CHR      13,76       0t0       3756
/dev/input/event12
Xorg    2093 root   15u  unix 0xc4baa540       0t0     168672 socket
Xorg    2093 root   16u   CHR      13,74       0t0       3505
/dev/input/event10
Xorg    2093 root   17u   CHR      13,73       0t0       3528
/dev/input/event9
Xorg    2093 root   18u   CHR      13,71       0t0       3272
/dev/input/event7
Xorg    2093 root   19u   CHR      13,68       0t0       3581
/dev/input/event4
Xorg    2093 root   20u   CHR      13,72       0t0       3357
/dev/input/event8
Xorg    2093 root   21u   CHR      13,67       0t0       3054
/dev/input/event3
Xorg    2093 root   22u   CHR      13,66       0t0       3042
/dev/input/event2
Xorg    2093 root   23u   CHR      13,69       0t0       2937
/dev/input/event5
Xorg    2093 root   24u  unix 0xcb444380       0t0     132073 socket
Xorg    2093 root   25u  unix 0xed0c5a40       0t0       7989 socket
Xorg    2093 root   26u  unix 0xf287f180       0t0       8099 socket
Xorg    2093 root   27u  unix 0xefc50a80       0t0       8224 socket
Xorg    2093 root   28u  unix 0xefcc6380       0t0       9366 socket
Xorg    2093 root   29u  unix 0xefd0dc00       0t0       9404 socket
Xorg    2093 root   30u  unix 0xefcc6000       0t0       9471 socket
Xorg    2093 root   31u  unix 0xefc50e00       0t0       9967 socket
Xorg    2093 root   32u  unix 0xefce9340       0t0      10095 socket
Xorg    2093 root   33u  unix 0xefd788c0       0t0      10297 socket
Xorg    2093 root   34u  unix 0xed0c4380       0t0      10428 socket
Xorg    2093 root   35u  unix 0xefc501c0       0t0      10457 socket
Xorg    2093 root   36u  unix 0xefc51a40       0t0      10462 socket
Xorg    2093 root   37u  unix 0xf25a7340       0t0      10557 socket
Xorg    2093 root   38u  unix 0xf25a7c00       0t0      10704 socket
Xorg    2093 root   39u  unix 0xefdc1dc0       0t0      11019 socket
Xorg    2093 root   40u  unix 0xefdc0540       0t0      10800 socket
Xorg    2093 root   41u  unix 0xefdc1c00       0t0      10934 socket
Xorg    2093 root   42u  unix 0xefdc01c0       0t0      11024 socket
Xorg    2093 root   43u  unix 0xefdbd880       0t0      11074 socket
Xorg    2093 root   44u  unix 0xefdbddc0       0t0      11427 socket
Xorg    2093 root   45u  unix 0xf25c5a40       0t0      11653 socket
Xorg    2093 root   46u  unix 0xeff00380       0t0      11534 socket
Xorg    2093 root   47u  unix 0xf25c4380       0t0      11543 socket
Xorg    2093 root   48u  unix 0xeff9ac40       0t0      11822 socket
Xorg    2093 root   49u  unix 0xf25cca80       0t0      11870 socket
Xorg    2093 root   50u  unix 0xf25cdc00       0t0      11945 socket
Xorg    2093 root   51u  unix 0xf25dd340       0t0     319512 socket
Xorg    2093 root   52u  unix 0xf25da1c0       0t0      12198 socket
Xorg    2093 root   53u  unix 0xf25d3340       0t0      12330 socket
Xorg    2093 root   54u  unix 0xf05801c0       0t0      12351 socket
Xorg    2093 root   55u  unix 0xefd04fc0       0t0      12738 socket
Xorg    2093 root   56u  unix 0xf0581880       0t0      12759 socket
Xorg    2093 root   57u  unix 0xf05fc540       0t0      12780 socket
Xorg    2093 root   58u  unix 0xf05fb880       0t0      12801 socket
Xorg    2093 root   59u  unix 0xf05aa1c0       0t0      12827 socket
Xorg    2093 root   60u  unix 0xf25dd880       0t0     319531 socket
Xorg    2093 root   61u  unix 0xd247ea80       0t0     319533 socket
Xorg    2093 root   62u  unix 0xd247e700       0t0     319535 socket
Xorg    2093 root   63u  unix 0xf25ea380       0t0     319537 socket
Xorg    2093 root   64u  unix 0xf25dce00       0t0     319539 socket
Xorg    2093 root   65u  unix 0xceb5b340       0t0     319541 socket
Xorg    2093 root   66u  unix 0xee0b1180       0t0     319547 socket
Xorg    2093 root   67u  unix 0xee0236c0       0t0      13140 socket
Xorg    2093 root   68u  unix 0xee19b180       0t0      14193 socket
Xorg    2093 root   69u  unix 0xee022380       0t0     350883 socket
Xorg    2093 root   70u  unix 0xefd421c0       0t0     161238 socket
Xorg    2093 root   71u  unix 0xee5948c0       0t0     116641 socket
Xorg    2093 root   72u  unix 0xefd42380       0t0     161267 socket
Xorg    2093 root   73u  unix 0xf25dd500       0t0     287007 socket
Xorg    2093 root   74u   CHR      13,64       0t0       2845
/dev/input/event0
Xorg    2093 root   75u  unix 0xf25dc380       0t0     286989 socket
Xorg    2093 root   76u  unix 0xf20a1dc0       0t0     351027 socket
Xorg    2093 root   77u  unix 0xee19ae00       0t0     351145 socket
Xorg    2093 root   78u  unix 0xef18f340       0t0     116642 socket
Xorg    2093 root   79u  unix 0xef18f180       0t0     116671 socket
Xorg    2093 root   80u  unix 0xd247f6c0       0t0     116700 socket
Xorg    2093 root   81u  unix 0xef18fdc0       0t0     116729 socket
Xorg    2093 root   82u  unix 0xef18fc00       0t0     116758 socket
Xorg    2093 root   83u  unix 0xee57a540       0t0     116787 socket
Xorg    2093 root   84u  unix 0xee57a000       0t0     116816 socket
Xorg    2093 root   85u  unix 0xefceca80       0t0     116845 socket
Xorg    2093 root   86u  unix 0xefcec1c0       0t0     116874 socket
Xorg    2093 root   87u  unix 0xee57bdc0       0t0     116903 socket
Xorg    2093 root   88u  unix 0xefced180       0t0     116932 socket
Xorg    2093 root   89u  unix 0xee57a1c0       0t0     116961 socket
Xorg    2093 root   90u  unix 0xee19a1c0       0t0     116990 socket
Xorg    2093 root   91u  unix 0xeff00540       0t0     117019 socket
Xorg    2093 root   92u  unix 0xee062a80       0t0     117048 socket
Xorg    2093 root   93u  unix 0xf25836c0       0t0     117077 socket
Xorg    2093 root   94u  unix 0xee0b1500       0t0     117106 socket
Xorg    2093 root   95u  unix 0xf25828c0       0t0     117135 socket
Xorg    2093 root   96u  unix 0xeb596380       0t0     117164 socket
Xorg    2093 root   97u  unix 0xef18ec40       0t0     117193 socket
Xorg    2093 root   98u  unix 0xeb596a80       0t0     117222 socket
Xorg    2093 root   99u  unix 0xeb596c40       0t0     124954 socket
Xorg    2093 root  100u  unix 0xeb5976c0       0t0     124983 socket
Xorg    2093 root  101u  unix 0xeb59ec40       0t0     125012 socket
Xorg    2093 root  102u  unix 0xeb597180       0t0     125041 socket
Xorg    2093 root  103u  unix 0xeb59e1c0       0t0     125070 socket
Xorg    2093 root  104u  unix 0xee594c40       0t0     125099 socket
Xorg    2093 root  105u  unix 0xee595180       0t0     125128 socket
Xorg    2093 root  106u  unix 0xefcedc00       0t0     125157 socket
Xorg    2093 root  107u  unix 0xefcec000       0t0     125186 socket
Xorg    2093 root  108u  unix 0xf202a000       0t0     125215 socket
Xorg    2093 root  109u  unix 0xf202a540       0t0     125244 socket
Xorg    2093 root  110u  unix 0xf202aa80       0t0     125273 socket
Xorg    2093 root  111u  unix 0xf202afc0       0t0     125302 socket
Xorg    2093 root  112u  unix 0xf202b500       0t0     125331 socket
Xorg    2093 root  113u  unix 0xf202ba40       0t0     125360 socket
Xorg    2093 root  114u  unix 0xcb474000       0t0     125389 socket
Xorg    2093 root  115u  unix 0xeb59e380       0t0     125418 socket
Xorg    2093 root  116u  unix 0xcb474700       0t0     125447 socket
Xorg    2093 root  117u  unix 0xcb474c40       0t0     125476 socket
Xorg    2093 root  118u  unix 0xcb475180       0t0     125505 socket
Xorg    2093 root  119u  unix 0xcb4756c0       0t0     125534 socket
Xorg    2093 root  120u  unix 0xcb475c00       0t0     125563 socket
Xorg    2093 root  121u  unix 0xee11efc0       0t0     132102 socket
Xorg    2093 root  122u  unix 0xcb444540       0t0     132131 socket
Xorg    2093 root  123u  unix 0xee11f6c0       0t0     132160 socket
Xorg    2093 root  124u  unix 0xee11ea80       0t0     132189 socket
Xorg    2093 root  125u  unix 0xee11e380       0t0     132218 socket
Xorg    2093 root  126u  unix 0xee11fc00       0t0     132247 socket
Xorg    2093 root  127u  unix 0xee11e1c0       0t0     132276 socket
Xorg    2093 root  128u  unix 0xee5956c0       0t0     132305 socket
Xorg    2093 root  129u  unix 0xeb597880       0t0     132334 socket
Xorg    2093 root  130u  unix 0xee171880       0t0     132363 socket
Xorg    2093 root  131u  unix 0xee170380       0t0     132392 socket
Xorg    2093 root  132u  unix 0xee171500       0t0     132421 socket
Xorg    2093 root  133u  unix 0xcb444fc0       0t0     132450 socket
Xorg    2093 root  134u  unix 0xee1708c0       0t0     132479 socket
Xorg    2093 root  135u  unix 0xee170c40       0t0     132508 socket
Xorg    2093 root  136u  unix 0xee171dc0       0t0     132537 socket
Xorg    2093 root  137u  unix 0xeb59efc0       0t0     132566 socket
Xorg    2093 root  138u  unix 0xeb59f880       0t0     132595 socket
Xorg    2093 root  139u  unix 0xef09e380       0t0     132624 socket
Xorg    2093 root  140u  unix 0xefd43880       0t0     161296 socket
Xorg    2093 root  141u  unix 0xef09fc00       0t0     132811 socket
Xorg    2093 root  142u  unix 0xcb444a80       0t0     132813 socket
Xorg    2093 root  143u  unix 0xefd42000       0t0     132869 socket
Xorg    2093 root  144u  unix 0xef09f180       0t0     132871 socket
Xorg    2093 root  145u  unix 0xef09e700       0t0     161325 socket
Xorg    2093 root  146u  unix 0xee57b6c0       0t0     161354 socket
Xorg    2093 root  147u  unix 0xeb59ee00       0t0     161383 socket
Xorg    2093 root  148u  unix 0xcb445880       0t0     161412 socket
Xorg    2093 root  149u  unix 0xf2583c00       0t0     161441 socket
Xorg    2093 root  150u  unix 0xf2583880       0t0     161470 socket
Xorg    2093 root  151u  unix 0xf2583a40       0t0     161499 socket
Xorg    2093 root  152u  unix 0xee595500       0t0     161528 socket
Xorg    2093 root  153u  unix 0xed0f88c0       0t0     161557 socket
Xorg    2093 root  154u  unix 0xcb445340       0t0     161586 socket
Xorg    2093 root  155u  unix 0xc4aa0380       0t0     161615 socket
Xorg    2093 root  156u  unix 0xef09ec40       0t0     161644 socket
Xorg    2093 root  157u  unix 0xc4aa0a80       0t0     161673 socket
Xorg    2093 root  158u  unix 0xc4aa0fc0       0t0     161702 socket
Xorg    2093 root  159u  unix 0xc4aa1500       0t0     161731 socket
Xorg    2093 root  160u  unix 0xc4aa1a40       0t0     161760 socket
Xorg    2093 root  161u  unix 0xc4aa0540       0t0     161789 socket
Xorg    2093 root  162u  unix 0xcb4c08c0       0t0     218678 socket
Xorg    2093 root  163u  unix 0xef02d340       0t0     168709 socket
Xorg    2093 root  164u  unix 0xef02ce00       0t0     168738 socket
Xorg    2093 root  165u  unix 0xc4baae00       0t0     168767 socket
Xorg    2093 root  166u  unix 0xef02c000       0t0     168796 socket
Xorg    2093 root  167u  unix 0xef02ddc0       0t0     168825 socket
Xorg    2093 root  168u  unix 0xefd42700       0t0     168854 socket
Xorg    2093 root  169u  unix 0xf2582700       0t0     168883 socket
Xorg    2093 root  170u  unix 0xf20a0700       0t0     168912 socket
Xorg    2093 root  171u  unix 0xefd43a40       0t0     168941 socket
Xorg    2093 root  172u  unix 0xc5922000       0t0     168970 socket
Xorg    2093 root  173u  unix 0xc5922700       0t0     168999 socket
Xorg    2093 root  174u  unix 0xc5922c40       0t0     169028 socket
Xorg    2093 root  175u  unix 0xc5923340       0t0     169057 socket
Xorg    2093 root  176u  unix 0xc5923c00       0t0     169113 socket
Xorg    2093 root  177u  unix 0xc583e380       0t0     169115 socket
Xorg    2093 root  178u  unix 0xc583e8c0       0t0     169144 socket
Xorg    2093 root  179u  unix 0xc5922e00       0t0     169173 socket
Xorg    2093 root  180u  unix 0xc583f340       0t0     169229 socket
Xorg    2093 root  181u  unix 0xf20a01c0       0t0     169231 socket
Xorg    2093 root  182u  unix 0xf2481340       0t0     209395 socket
Xorg    2093 root  183u  unix 0xf24816c0       0t0     169494 socket
Xorg    2093 root  184u  unix 0xf2480e00       0t0     169498 socket
Xorg    2093 root  185u  unix 0xf2480fc0       0t0     169525 socket
Xorg    2093 root  186u  unix 0xc583f6c0       0t0     169554 socket
Xorg    2093 root  187u  unix 0xc4a4aa80       0t0     218707 socket
Xorg    2093 root  188u  unix 0xf2480c40       0t0     209424 socket
Xorg    2093 root  189u  unix 0xf2481a40       0t0     209453 socket
Xorg    2093 root  190u  unix 0xef02dc00       0t0     209482 socket
Xorg    2093 root  191u  unix 0xc5954c40       0t0     209511 socket
Xorg    2093 root  192u  unix 0xc59541c0       0t0     209540 socket
Xorg    2093 root  193u  unix 0xc59548c0       0t0     209569 socket
Xorg    2093 root  194u  unix 0xc4bab500       0t0     209598 socket
Xorg    2093 root  195u  unix 0xc4baa700       0t0     209627 socket
Xorg    2093 root  196u  unix 0xc583fdc0       0t0     209656 socket
Xorg    2093 root  197u  unix 0xc583fc00       0t0     209685 socket
Xorg    2093 root  198u  unix 0xee16e000       0t0     209714 socket
Xorg    2093 root  199u  unix 0xee16e540       0t0     209743 socket
Xorg    2093 root  200u  unix 0xee16ea80       0t0     209772 socket
Xorg    2093 root  201u  unix 0xee16efc0       0t0     209801 socket
Xorg    2093 root  202u  unix 0xee16f500       0t0     209830 socket
Xorg    2093 root  203u  unix 0xee16fa40       0t0     209859 socket
Xorg    2093 root  204u  unix 0xcb490000       0t0     209888 socket
Xorg    2093 root  205u  unix 0xef11a000       0t0     209917 socket
Xorg    2093 root  206u  unix 0xcb490700       0t0     209946 socket
Xorg    2093 root  207u  unix 0xf25eb340       0t0     269456 socket
Xorg    2093 root  208u  unix 0xf25ebc00       0t0     269497 socket
Xorg    2093 root  209u  unix 0xf25ea540       0t0     269524 socket
Xorg    2093 root  210u  unix 0xcb4c1500       0t0     218736 socket
Xorg    2093 root  211u  unix 0xc4a4b180       0t0     218765 socket
Xorg    2093 root  212u  unix 0xcb4c0e00       0t0     218794 socket
Xorg    2093 root  213u  unix 0xcb4c1c00       0t0     218823 socket
Xorg    2093 root  214u  unix 0xc4a4ba40       0t0     218852 socket
Xorg    2093 root  215u  unix 0xcb4c1a40       0t0     218881 socket
Xorg    2093 root  216u  unix 0xee0b0c40       0t0     218910 socket
Xorg    2093 root  217u  unix 0xcb491180       0t0     218952 socket
Xorg    2093 root  218u  unix 0xc4bab6c0       0t0     218982 socket
Xorg    2093 root  219u  unix 0xc5955a40       0t0     219011 socket
Xorg    2093 root  220u  unix 0xef11a1c0       0t0     219040 socket
Xorg    2093 root  221u  unix 0xcb490a80       0t0     219069 socket
Xorg    2093 root  222u  unix 0xee0b1c00       0t0     219098 socket
Xorg    2093 root  223u  unix 0xc5494000       0t0     219127 socket
Xorg    2093 root  224u  unix 0xc5494540       0t0     219156 socket
Xorg    2093 root  225u  unix 0xc5494a80       0t0     219185 socket
Xorg    2093 root  226u  unix 0xc5494fc0       0t0     219214 socket
Xorg    2093 root  227u  unix 0xc5495500       0t0     219243 socket
Xorg    2093 root  228u  unix 0xc55a4e00       0t0     236595 socket
Xorg    2093 root  229u  unix 0xc4a4ae00       0t0     250615 socket
Xorg    2093 root  230u  unix 0xc5954000       0t0     250617 socket
Xorg    2093 root  231u  unix 0xc5954540       0t0     250619 socket
Xorg    2093 root  232u  unix 0xc5495880       0t0     250621 socket
Xorg    2093 root  233u  unix 0xcb482fc0       0t0     250629 socket
Xorg    2093 root  234u  unix 0xc55a56c0       0t0     250630 socket
Xorg    2093 root  235u  unix 0xcb4e61c0       0t0     250631 socket
Xorg    2093 root  236u  unix 0xcb4e6540       0t0     250632 socket
Xorg    2093 root  237u  unix 0xcb4e68c0       0t0     250633 socket
Xorg    2093 root  238u  unix 0xcb4e6c40       0t0     250634 socket
Xorg    2093 root  239u  unix 0xcb4e6fc0       0t0     250635 socket
Xorg    2093 root  240u  unix 0xcb4e7340       0t0     250639 socket
Xorg    2093 root  241u  unix 0xcb4e7a40       0t0     250668 socket
Xorg    2093 root  242u  unix 0xceb5a380       0t0     250702 socket
Xorg    2093 root  243u  unix 0xceb5a8c0       0t0     250731 socket
Xorg    2093 root  244u  unix 0xceb78000       0t0     250760 socket
Xorg    2093 root  245u  unix 0xceb78700       0t0     250789 socket
Xorg    2093 root  246u  unix 0xceb78e00       0t0     250818 socket
Xorg    2093 root  247u  unix 0xceb79500       0t0     250847 socket
Xorg    2093 root  248u  unix 0xceb79c00       0t0     250876 socket
Xorg    2093 root  249u  unix 0xf25eb500       0t0     269563 socket
Xorg    2093 root  250u  unix 0xc4baac40       0t0     269592 socket
Xorg    2093 root  251u  unix 0xcb491c00       0t0     269621 socket
Xorg    2093 root  252u  unix 0xc4a4a380       0t0     269660 socket
Xorg    2093 root  253u  unix 0xcb4908c0       0t0     269694 socket
Xorg    2093 root  254u  unix 0xee0b01c0       0t0     269723 socket
Xorg    2093 root  255u  unix 0xceb796c0       0t0     269763 socket




-- 
Mildred Ki'Lya
?????????? ???????????????????? ??????????
? Jabber, GoogleTalk: <mildred at jabber.fr>
? Website: <http://ki.lya.online.fr>           GPG ID: 9A7D 2E2B
? Fingerprint: 197C A7E6 645B 4299 6D37 684B 6F9D A8D6 9A7D 2E2B

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090523/9d4a8d55/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: OpenPGP digital signature
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090523/9d4a8d55/attachment.sig>

From fedora at kaarefc.dk  Sat May 23 13:09:59 2009
From: fedora at kaarefc.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=E5re_Fiedler_Christiansen?=)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 09:09:59 -0400
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> 
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org> 
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net> 
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <484d2aac0905230609x5436dfb2l688472dc614e37c6@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 13:25, Christopher Beland <beland at alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Based on the recent conversations on this list, I have updated:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
>
> If you use these instructions and they fail or you can otherwise tell
> they are incorrect, please either fix them directly on the wiki or let
> me know and I will fix them.
>
> Hopefully this page can become a canonical, well-known resource so we
> aren't answering this question a million times.

One of the reasons I use the Adobe flash plugin is the support for
webcams. Neither gnash nor swfdec seems to support this.

However for this to work, I need to start firefox with video4linux v1
support, that is:

LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so firefox

Perhaps this would be worth adding to the page?

Best,
  K?re
-- 
K?re Fiedler Christiansen



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sat May 23 13:44:12 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 09:44:12 -0400
Subject: httpd Doesn't Seem To Work In Fedora 11
Message-ID: <4A17FDAC.3020201@speakeasy.net>

This morning I wanted to play with Fedora 11's httpd and get some 
content up. I last worked with the web server on 04/11 according to the 
access logs. I was successful at that time and was able to bring up the 
expected "test page".

Today, when I brought up Firefox, it gave me am "unable to connect" 
message for both localhost and the fully qualified server hostname 
defined in httpd.conf. I checked my firewall. Aha! httpd wasn't trusted. 
I checked it off as a trusted service and restarted. Still no test page 
content. I recalled some SELinux error messages involving httpd, so I 
disabled SELinux, rebooted the system, and tried to get the test page 
again. Nothing. Here is what is in /var/log/httpd:

-rw-r--r--.  1 root root     0 2009-04-19 12:19 access_log
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  1641 2009-04-11 19:32 access_log-20090419
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root 17885 2009-05-23 09:11 error_log
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root 19799 2009-04-26 09:49 error_log-20090426
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root 16467 2009-05-03 10:47 error_log-20090503
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root 17300 2009-05-10 10:45 error_log-20090510
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root 13968 2009-05-17 09:06 error_log-20090517
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root     0 2009-04-11 17:29 ssl_access_log
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  4773 2009-05-23 09:11 ssl_error_log
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  5217 2009-04-26 08:47 ssl_error_log-20090426
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  4329 2009-05-03 09:39 ssl_error_log-20090503
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  4551 2009-05-10 09:21 ssl_error_log-20090510
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  3663 2009-05-17 09:00 ssl_error_log-20090517
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root     0 2009-04-11 17:29 ssl_request_log

Here is the last successful request, listed in access_log-20090419:

192.168.1.46 - - [11/Apr/2009:17:31:11 -0400] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 403 3918 
"-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3) 
Gecko/20090327 Fedora/3.1-0.11.beta3.fc11 Firefox/3.1b3"
192.168.1.46 - - [11/Apr/2009:17:31:11 -0400] "GET /icons/apache_pb2.gif 
HTTP/1.1" 200 1797 "http://deafeng3.signtype.info/" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; 
U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3) Gecko/20090327 
Fedora/3.1-0.11.beta3.fc11 Firefox/3.1b3"
192.168.1.46 - - [11/Apr/2009:17:31:11 -0400] "GET /icons/poweredby.png 
HTTP/1.1" 200 3034 "http://deafeng3.signtype.info/" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; 
U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3) Gecko/20090327 
Fedora/3.1-0.11.beta3.fc11 Firefox/3.1b3"
192.168.1.46 - - [11/Apr/2009:17:31:11 -0400] "GET /favicon.ico 
HTTP/1.1" 404 297 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; 
rv:1.9.1b3) Gecko/20090327 Fedora/3.1-0.11.beta3.fc11 Firefox/3.1b3"
192.168.1.46 - - [11/Apr/2009:17:31:14 -0400] "GET /favicon.ico 
HTTP/1.1" 404 297 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; 
rv:1.9.1b3) Gecko/20090327 Fedora/3.1-0.11.beta3.fc11 Firefox/3.1b3"
192.168.1.46 - - [11/Apr/2009:18:24:51 -0400] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 403 3918 
"-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3) 
Gecko/20090327 Fedora/3.1-0.11.beta3.fc11 Firefox/3.1b3"
192.168.1.46 - - [11/Apr/2009:18:24:55 -0400] "GET /favicon.ico 
HTTP/1.1" 404 297 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; 
rv:1.9.1b3) Gecko/20090327 Fedora/3.1-0.11.beta3.fc11 Firefox/3.1b3"
192.168.1.46 - - [11/Apr/2009:19:32:41 -0400] "GET /favicon.ico 
HTTP/1.1" 404 297 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; 
rv:1.9.1b3) Gecko/20090327 Fedora/3.1-0.11.beta3.fc11 Firefox/3.1b3"

Here are the last few lines of the error_log:


[Sat May 23 09:10:01 2009] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Sat May 23 09:11:09 2009] [notice] suEXEC mechanism enabled (wrapper: 
/usr/sbin/suexec)
[Sat May 23 09:11:09 2009] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest 
authentication ...
[Sat May 23 09:11:09 2009] [notice] Digest: done
[Sat May 23 09:11:09 2009] [notice] mod_python: Creating 4 session 
mutexes based on 256 max processes and 0 max threads.
[Sat May 23 09:11:09 2009] [notice] mod_python: using mutex_directory /tmp
[Sat May 23 09:11:10 2009] [notice] Apache/2.2.11 (Unix) DAV/2 
mod_auth_pgsql/2.0.3 PHP/5.2.9 mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.6 
mod_ssl/2.2.11 OpenSSL/0.9.8k-fips mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.0 
configured -- resuming normal operations

Note: the ip address above for 192.168.1.46 is a wired connection. I 
also use a wireless connection a lot, with a different IP address, but 
that shouldn't matter, right? See wlan0:

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:21:70:C1:AA:79
           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
           Memory:f6fe0000-f7000000

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
           RX packets:28 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
           TX packets:28 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
           RX bytes:2396 (2.3 KiB)  TX bytes:2396 (2.3 KiB)

virbr0    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:DC:6C:10:F7:2A
           inet addr:192.168.122.1  Bcast:192.168.122.255  
Mask:255.255.255.0
           inet6 addr: fe80::fcdc:6cff:fe10:f72a/64 Scope:Link
           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
           TX packets:31 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:6087 (5.9 KiB)

wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:21:6A:0C:7D:FE
           inet addr:192.168.1.48  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
           inet6 addr: fe80::221:6aff:fe0c:7dfe/64 Scope:Link
           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
           RX packets:150 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
           TX packets:120 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
           RX bytes:29903 (29.2 KiB)  TX bytes:17286 (16.8 KiB)

wmaster0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 
00-21-6A-0C-7D-FE-60-BA-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

My latest kernel:

[rlc at deafeng3 ~]$ uname -a
Linux deafeng3.signtype.info 2.6.29.3-155.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed May 20 
17:43:16 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Any suggestions?

Bob









From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May 23 13:56:36 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 09:56:36 -0400
Subject: Bluetooth enable in fc11?
In-Reply-To: <f6ca9fed0905230427q147e2a58q3b56570ae96ecf0a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A171B9D.209@tmr.com>
	<f6ca9fed0905230427q147e2a58q3b56570ae96ecf0a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A180094.70905@tmr.com>

drago01 wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
>> I have loaded all the "bluez*" stuff, dmesg shows no errors in the bluetooth
>> lines, is there some tool google didn't show to duplicate the Windows
>> behavior of showing BT devices nearby and offering to connect to them. I
>> really would like to use a BT headset, and maybe use BT for a printer, but
>> there just doesn't seem to be any such app, so I assume I have to install
>> yet more packages.
>>
>> Under Windows the system see headsets, cell phones, a printer, and an "other
>> device" which is unidentified. I would think this would be common enough to
>> work out of the box, but it doesn't even work under fc10.
> 
> 
> Just right click on the BT icon in the panel.
> Everything needed is installed by default and works just fine.
> 
What BT icon would that be? There certainly is none in any default I've ever 
used. Or is this one of those KDE-only things? And the Bluetooth item on the 
applications menu if offering to open files, not look for devices.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From drago01 at gmail.com  Sat May 23 14:08:34 2009
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 16:08:34 +0200
Subject: Bluetooth enable in fc11?
In-Reply-To: <4A180094.70905@tmr.com>
References: <4A171B9D.209@tmr.com>
	<f6ca9fed0905230427q147e2a58q3b56570ae96ecf0a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A180094.70905@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0905230708l26ea30bfw608108c81f4b783a@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
> drago01 wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have loaded all the "bluez*" stuff, dmesg shows no errors in the
>>> bluetooth
>>> lines, is there some tool google didn't show to duplicate the Windows
>>> behavior of showing BT devices nearby and offering to connect to them. I
>>> really would like to use a BT headset, and maybe use BT for a printer,
>>> but
>>> there just doesn't seem to be any such app, so I assume I have to install
>>> yet more packages.
>>>
>>> Under Windows the system see headsets, cell phones, a printer, and an
>>> "other
>>> device" which is unidentified. I would think this would be common enough
>>> to
>>> work out of the box, but it doesn't even work under fc10.
>>
>>
>> Just right click on the BT icon in the panel.
>> Everything needed is installed by default and works just fine.
>>
> What BT icon would that be? There certainly is none in any default I've ever
> used. Or is this one of those KDE-only things? And the Bluetooth item on the
> applications menu if offering to open files, not look for devices.

When a BT device is plugged in / detected you should see an icon in
the notification-area.
The rightclick menu offers different things you can do with bluetooth,
it also provides a wizard for setting up new devices.



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sat May 23 14:19:54 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:19:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090523 changes
Message-ID: <20090523141954.2494F1F820F@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sat May 23 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

alsa-utils-1.0.20-3.fc11
------------------------
* Fri May 15 2009 Jaroslav Kysela <jkysela at redhat.com> 1.0.20-3
- fixed Headphone Volume issue (bz#500956)

* Mon May 11 2009 Jaroslav Kysela <jkysela at redhat.com> 1.0.20-1
- updated to 1.0.20 final
- updated alsa-info.sh script to 0.4.56

* Mon May 11 2009 Jaroslav Kysela <jkysela at redhat.com> 1.0.20-2
- fix build (update sources file)


coccinelle-0.1.8-1.fc11.3
-------------------------
* Fri May 22 2009 Richard W.M. Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 0.1.8-1.fc11.3
- New upstream version 0.1.8.
- Include patch from Debian to fix CVE-2009-1753 (RHBZ#502174).
- Segfaults on PPC64, so added to ExcludeArch.


generic-release-11-1
--------------------
* Wed May 20 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 11-1
- resync with fedora-release package


glibc-2.10.1-2
--------------
* Fri May 22 2009 Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat.com> 2.10.1-2
- fix accept4 on architectures other than i?86/x86_64
- robustify nscd client code during server GC
- fix up nscd segfaults during daemon shutdown
- fix memchr on ia64 (BZ#10162)
- replace the Sun RPC license with the BSD license, with the explicit
  permission of Sun Microsystems
- fix up powerpc long double errno reporting


ibus-chewing-1.0.10.20090523-2.fc11
-----------------------------------
* Fri May 22 2009 - Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.10.20090522-1
- Now the 1st down key brings the longest possible phrases.
  The 2nd down key brings the 2nd longest possible phrases from the back,
  unlike the previous versions where the cursor stays in the head of longest phrase.
- Add force lowercase in English mode option.
- Fix double free issue when destroy ibus-chewing.
- Hide ibus-chewing-panel when ibus-chewing is focus-out

* Fri May 22 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.10.20090523-1
- Applied Lubomir Rintel's patch

* Fri May 22 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.10.20090523-2
- Add back the export GCONF_CONFIG_SOURCE=`gconftool-2 --get-default-source`

* Mon May 11 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.9.20090508-1
Now commit is forced when switch of ibus-chewing or current application loses focus.
- New ibus-chewing.png is contribute by WM.
- input-keyboard.png is no longer needed and removed.
- ibus-engine-chewing -v option now need an integer as verbose level.
- ibus-chewing.schemas is now generated.
- Fix some CMake modules bugs.

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.8.20090428-1
Fix the errors which Funda Wang as pointing out:
- Move src/chewing.xml.in to data/
- Fixed some typo in next_version targets.
- Remove GConf2 package requirement, while add gconftool-2 requirement.


libchewing-0.3.2-10.fc11
------------------------
* Wed May 20 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.2-10
- Need autoreconf to make changes in Makefile.am effective.

* Mon May 18 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.2-9
- Possible Fix of Bug 501220 - RFE: edit last preedit character from end of line
  Chewing upstream does not handle if phrase choice rearward is enabled.


libdrm-2.4.6-7.fc11
-------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 Kristian H??gsberg <krh at redhat.com> - 2.4.6-7
- Add patch to limit cachable object size (#498131).


squirrelmail-1.4.19-1.fc11
--------------------------
* Fri May 22 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> - 1.4.19-1
- updated to 1.4.19                                                                        
- fixes CVE-2009-1579, CVE-2009-1580, CVE-2009-1581

* Tue May 19 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> - 1.4.18-2
- fix undefined variable aSpamIds (#501260)

* Tue May 12 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> - 1.4.18-1
- updated to 1.4.18


transmission-1.53-1.fc11
------------------------
* Fri May 22 2009 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org> - 1.53-1
- Update to upstream 1.53
- Security fix CVE-2009-1757 (#500278)

* Tue Apr 28 2009 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org> - 1.52-1
- Update to upstream 1.52
- XDG Download patch upstreamed
- Added patch to make full allocation by default


xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-6.fc11
-------------------------------
* Wed May 20 2009 <krh at madara.bos.redhat.com> - 2.7.0-6
- Add intel-2.7-dont-gtt-map-big-objects.patch to avoid mapping big
  gem objects through the GTT (#498131).

* Thu May 07 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 2.7.0-5
- Update intel-gpu-tools


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 10









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From johannbg at hi.is  Sat May 23 14:12:16 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:12:16 +0000
Subject: httpd Doesn't Seem To Work In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A17FDAC.3020201@speakeasy.net>
References: <4A17FDAC.3020201@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <4A180440.3000705@hi.is>

Works fine for me Selinux enabled

httpd-2.2.11-8.x86_64

First check if the service is running

( service httpd status )

Else check if the syntax of the confs are ok

(  apachectl -t )

If it's not then restore/revert the changes you made to the
conf files you did make backup right!

If the syntax is ok but the daemon ain't running

start disabling modules one by one and try starting the daemon

start disabling the ones that are in /etc/httpd/conf.d/

A rule of thumb is not to install modules that you do no intent to use

Some of the modules can conflict with each other and thus prevent the
daemon
from running.

Check if the daemon is listening

( netstat -pant )

If it is then you can disable the firewall and selinux for a brief
moment to check if its blocking access
to the daemon thou you should always be able to access the daemon via
localhost

( service iptables stop && setenforce 0 and  service iptables start &&
setenforce 1 to enable it again )

JBG



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Sat May 23 14:29:18 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 09:59:18 -0430
Subject: X11: Maximum number of clients reached
In-Reply-To: <4A17E3BD.80205@gmail.com>
References: <4A0FE7E7.2030101@gmail.com>
	<1242653200.21675.431.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1242664498.3982.16.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A17E3BD.80205@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243088958.4016.109.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 13:53 +0200, Mildred Ki'Lya wrote:
> On 05/18/2009 06:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> > On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 09:26 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > > Check the output of 'sudo lsof -p `pidof Xorg`' when this happens.  This
> > > will show you what file descriptors are in use by the X server.  Last I
> > > checked this error message was misleading, and could mean either "I've
> > > hit the client limit" or "I've run out of file descriptors".
> > >     
> > 
> > That would be:
> > 
> > su -c lsof -p `pidof X`
> 
> Hi,
> 
> So, it happened again. There are 234 opened sockets, and the last file
> descriptor seems to be 255u, so perhaps there is a limit there. Any
> ideas on how to find the program responsible for that?

The 'u' just means the file is opened read/write. The actual fd number
is 255, which is certainly suspicious. Just for kicks, try 'ulimit -n'
to see if your open file limit is set too low for some odd reason.

You can also check the open socket numbers using netstat, e.g.

        netstat | grep <sock-number>

will give an idea of what the file is.

poc



From tom.horsley at att.net  Sat May 23 14:45:27 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 10:45:27 -0400
Subject: httpd Doesn't Seem To Work In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A180440.3000705@hi.is>
References: <4A17FDAC.3020201@speakeasy.net>
	<4A180440.3000705@hi.is>
Message-ID: <20090523104527.4c7ac77e@zooty>

On Sat, 23 May 2009 14:12:16 +0000
J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:

> Works fine for me Selinux enabled

Also works for me (but I have selinux disabled).

I did a "service httpd start" and connecting to
localhost showed me the "fedora test page", then
I copied some web content to /var/www/html and
connecting to localhost again showed me the
files I just copied, so simple cases work OK.
I didn't try any complicated cgi or php stuff.

I seem to remember at work I had to do something
like "yum erase mod-security" because figuring out
how to make it happy was way too complicated :-).



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sat May 23 15:54:07 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 11:54:07 -0400
Subject: httpd Doesn't Seem To Work In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A180440.3000705@hi.is>
References: <4A17FDAC.3020201@speakeasy.net> <4A180440.3000705@hi.is>
Message-ID: <4A181C1F.1010306@speakeasy.net>


On 05/23/2009 10:12 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> Works fine for me Selinux enabled
>
> httpd-2.2.11-8.x86_64
>
> First check if the service is running
>
> ( service httpd status )
>
> Else check if the syntax of the confs are ok
>
> (  apachectl -t )
>
> If it's not then restore/revert the changes you made to the
> conf files you did make backup right!
>
> If the syntax is ok but the daemon ain't running
>
> start disabling modules one by one and try starting the daemon
>
> start disabling the ones that are in /etc/httpd/conf.d/
>
> A rule of thumb is not to install modules that you do no intent to use
>
> Some of the modules can conflict with each other and thus prevent the
> daemon
> from running.
>
> Check if the daemon is listening
>
> ( netstat -pant )
>
> If it is then you can disable the firewall and selinux for a brief
> moment to check if its blocking access
> to the daemon thou you should always be able to access the daemon via
> localhost
>
> ( service iptables stop&&  setenforce 0 and  service iptables start&&
> setenforce 1 to enable it again )
>    

Thank you, I get the impression that httpd is listening on port 443 but 
not port 80 and that is the problem:

[root at deafeng3 ~]# service httpd status
httpd (pid  2335) is running...
[root at deafeng3 ~]# apachectl -t
Syntax OK
You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root
[root at deafeng3 ~]# netstat -pant
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address               Foreign 
Address             State       PID/Program name
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:39689               
0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      1798/rpc.statd
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:3306                
0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      2263/mysqld
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:111                 
0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      1785/rpcbind
tcp        0      0 192.168.122.1:53            
0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      2480/dnsmasq
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22                  
0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      2110/sshd
tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631               
0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      1870/cupsd
tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:25                
0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      3097/sendmail: acce
tcp        0      0 :::111                      
:::*                        LISTEN      1785/rpcbind
tcp        0      0 :::22                       
:::*                        LISTEN      2110/sshd
tcp        0      0 ::1:631                     
:::*                        LISTEN      1870/cupsd
tcp        0      0 :::443                      
:::*                        LISTEN      2335/httpd

I'll work on this over the weekend. Perhaps I made a syntax error with 
the conf file. That is the only item I changed for a default install of 
httpd.  I seem to remember that I installed tomcat5 and tomcat6 after 
httpd, but these services are not running per chkconfig:


tomcat5            0:off    1:off    2:off    3:off    4:off    5:off    
6:off
tomcat6            0:off    1:off    2:off    3:off    4:off    5:off    
6:off


Bob





> JBG
>
>    



From james_j_catchpole at yahoo.com  Sat May 23 18:23:10 2009
From: james_j_catchpole at yahoo.com (James J Catchpole)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:23:10 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 system-config-users failure
In-Reply-To: <20090520075525.E76AB61A2AF@hormel.redhat.com>
References: <20090520075525.E76AB61A2AF@hormel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A183F0E.40303@yahoo.com>

When I use system-config-users I get the following failure. Note that
the GUI Interface also fails but it just disappears with no indication
of what is wrong; I am assuming that the underlying system-config-users
failure is causing that failure as well.

[root at JJC-T60 ~]# system-config-users
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/share/system-config-users/system-config-users.py", line 
46, in <module>
     mainWindow.mainWindow()
   File "/usr/share/system-config-users/mainWindow.py", line 311, in 
__init__
     self.refresh()
   File "/usr/share/system-config-users/mainWindow.py", line 517, in refresh
     self.populate_lists()
   File "/usr/share/system-config-users/mainWindow.py", line 616, in 
populate_lists
     self.populate_user_list()
   File "/usr/share/system-config-users/mainWindow.py", line 574, in 
populate_user_list
     self.userStore.set_value(iter, 1, uidNumber)
TypeError: value is of the wrong type for this column
[root at JJC-T60 ~]#


On 05/20/2009 03:55 AM, fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com wrote:
> Send fedora-test-list mailing list submissions to
> 	fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> 	https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> 	fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> 	fedora-test-list-owner at redhat.com
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of fedora-test-list digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>     1. flash in Fedora 11 working,,  Thanks to Christopher A.
>        Williams (Leslie Satenstein)
>     2. Re: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release (David)
>     3. Re: every so often, screen just goes black (Robert P. J. Day)
>     4. Re: every so often, screen just goes black (Adam Williamson)
>     5. Re: repo issue (Adrin Jalali)
>     6. Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora (Rahul Sundaram)
>     7. Re: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora (Antonio M)
>     8. Re: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora (Ralf Corsepius)
>     9. Re: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora (kashyap)
>    10. Re: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora (omar naas)
>    11. Re: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora (Gireesh Sreekantan)
>    12. Re: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora (Adam Pribyl)
>    13. Re: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora (Paul Black)
>    14. Re: Preupgrade problem (Adam Pribyl)
>    15. Re: Firefox crash when visiting Planet Fedora (omar naas)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:09:34 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Leslie Satenstein<lsatenstein at yahoo.com>
> Subject: flash in Fedora 11 working,,  Thanks to Christopher A.
> 	Williams
> To: Fedora-Test_list redhat<fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:<844111.64471.qm at web110714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
> p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
>
> On Tuesday 19 May 2009 14:56:53 Christopher A. Williams wrote some instructions:
>
>
>
>    
>> Here's how I did it:
>>
>> 1) Download the latest 64-bit flash plugin from:
>> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
>>
>> Note that this is still in RC status...
>>
>> 2) Unpack the .tar.gz file and place a copy of the .so file in:
>> /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins (do this as root)
>>
>> 3) As root, run the command:
>> mozilla-plugin-config -i -g -v
>>
>> You're finished!
>>
>> Flash should then show up in Firefox about:plugins
>>
>> Works like a champ on all of my 64-bit F11 systems.
>>      
> And on my system too.
>    
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>      
> The following worked for me with the fedora11 beta (which is oozing into being non-beta)
>
> 1) I downloaded the flash and extracted it to my desktop. (I wanted to keep a copy)
> 2)  I sudo'ed su   (to root)
> 3)  I switched to my Desktop
> 4)  cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
> 5)   mozilla-plugin-config -i -g -v
> ------------------
>
> Regards
> Mr. Leslie
>   Leslie Satenstein
>
> voice:  514-369-1685   
> mailto:lsatenstein at yahoo.com
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090519/907b52e2/attachment.html
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:47:47 -0400
> From: David<dgboles at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
> 	<fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:<4A136F53.3010906 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 5/19/2009 8:26 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
>    
>> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 19:58 -0400, David wrote:
>>      
>>> What does this do to the 'restart' of Rawhide please?
>>>        
>> The restart of rawhide will happen when we're done with Fedora 11
>> development.
>>      
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>    
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090523/b807c500/attachment.htm>

From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sat May 23 18:58:49 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:58:49 +0200
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>	<a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com>	<4A146CF1.40103@tmr.com>	<4A146D69.308@tmr.com>	<4A1478D1.4090602@redhat.com>
	<4A1725E6.3060208@tmr.com> <gv7ers$vf7$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4A17E371.60602@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <gv9h19$6m9$5@ger.gmane.org>

Bill Davidsen wrote:
> The original issue is that I have packages which are available in binary
> form which use the 32 bit ".i585" libraries.

You didn't get my point. glibc.i586 and glibc.i686 contain the SAME
libraries, just differently optimized. All the packages in Fedora get built
against one or the other and actually run on both. The same should be true
for any third-party binaries. I don't see how which one you pick would make
any difference.

> And since several are (a) huge, (b) updated frequently, and (c) not known
> to be 64 bit functional

That doesn't mean they need glibc.i586 rather than glibc.i686.

The right glibc multilib for x86_64 systems is i686, not i586.

        Kevin Kofler



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Sat May 23 19:05:02 2009
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 21:05:02 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: httpd Doesn't Seem To Work In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A181C1F.1010306@speakeasy.net>
References: <4A17FDAC.3020201@speakeasy.net> <4A180440.3000705@hi.is>
	<4A181C1F.1010306@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905232103160.23862@sandbox.cz>

On Sat, 23 May 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:

>
>
> Thank you, I get the impression that httpd is listening on port 443 but not 
> port 80 and that is the problem:

443 is https port, so this is most probably your configuration problem.

>
> Bob

Adam Pribyl



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sat May 23 18:56:19 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:56:19 +0200
Subject: Flash instructions updated
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<484d2aac0905230609x5436dfb2l688472dc614e37c6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gv9gsj$6m9$4@ger.gmane.org>

K?re Fiedler Christiansen wrote:
> One of the reasons I use the Adobe flash plugin is the support for
> webcams.

You consider sending your webcam's images out to WEB SITES a feature? I call
it a privacy invasion and a security risk.

        Kevin Kofler



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May 23 19:16:02 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 15:16:02 -0400
Subject: what package will give me /lib/ld-linux.so.2 on x86_64?
In-Reply-To: <gv9h19$6m9$5@ger.gmane.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905201442120.22022@localhost.localdomain>	<a9274eb10905201151r3bef426aw46101c8a74eaec0a@mail.gmail.com>	<4A146CF1.40103@tmr.com>	<4A146D69.308@tmr.com>	<4A1478D1.4090602@redhat.com>	<4A1725E6.3060208@tmr.com>
	<gv7ers$vf7$1@ger.gmane.org>	<4A17E371.60602@tmr.com>
	<gv9h19$6m9$5@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4A184B72.1080802@tmr.com>

Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> The original issue is that I have packages which are available in binary
>> form which use the 32 bit ".i585" libraries.
> 
> You didn't get my point. glibc.i586 and glibc.i686 contain the SAME
> libraries, just differently optimized. All the packages in Fedora get built
> against one or the other and actually run on both. The same should be true
> for any third-party binaries. I don't see how which one you pick would make
> any difference.
> 
>> And since several are (a) huge, (b) updated frequently, and (c) not known
>> to be 64 bit functional
> 
> That doesn't mean they need glibc.i586 rather than glibc.i686.
> 
> The right glibc multilib for x86_64 systems is i686, not i586.
> 
In spite of all the theory on Earth, packages did not work with i686, removed 
i686 installed i586, packages work. All packages but one, when I tried 
installing the 32 bit parts of X and gtk I got conflicts. At that point I just 
gave up and went 32 bit, the object is to use the system, not chase bugs. I get 
no benefit from 64 bit, and it was fun trying, getting the 32 bit binaries 
working takes more (unpaid) time than I have.

I appreciate the comments on 586 vs. 686 I just can't collaborate with 
experimental data.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May 23 19:23:22 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 15:23:22 -0400
Subject: Bluetooth enable in fc11?
In-Reply-To: <f6ca9fed0905230708l26ea30bfw608108c81f4b783a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A171B9D.209@tmr.com>	<f6ca9fed0905230427q147e2a58q3b56570ae96ecf0a@mail.gmail.com>	<4A180094.70905@tmr.com>
	<f6ca9fed0905230708l26ea30bfw608108c81f4b783a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A184D2A.5090609@tmr.com>

drago01 wrote:
> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
>> drago01 wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
>>>> I have loaded all the "bluez*" stuff, dmesg shows no errors in the
>>>> bluetooth
>>>> lines, is there some tool google didn't show to duplicate the Windows
>>>> behavior of showing BT devices nearby and offering to connect to them. I
>>>> really would like to use a BT headset, and maybe use BT for a printer,
>>>> but
>>>> there just doesn't seem to be any such app, so I assume I have to install
>>>> yet more packages.
>>>>
>>>> Under Windows the system see headsets, cell phones, a printer, and an
>>>> "other
>>>> device" which is unidentified. I would think this would be common enough
>>>> to
>>>> work out of the box, but it doesn't even work under fc10.
>>>
>>> Just right click on the BT icon in the panel.
>>> Everything needed is installed by default and works just fine.
>>>
>> What BT icon would that be? There certainly is none in any default I've ever
>> used. Or is this one of those KDE-only things? And the Bluetooth item on the
>> applications menu if offering to open files, not look for devices.
> 
> When a BT device is plugged in / detected you should see an icon in
> the notification-area.

I agree, only it doesn't work that way. I was looking for a tool like Windows 
has, which enumerates the BT devices in the area, clearly support hasn't 
prograssed that far. Like iwlist for wifi, to get the info which is available 
instead of what NetworkMangler thinks you are allowed to see.

> The rightclick menu offers different things you can do with bluetooth,
> it also provides a wizard for setting up new devices.
> 
I would settle for totally manual method if it worked, actually prefer it so I 
could see where it doesn't work.

I take it from the lack of other info that it is intended to work automatically 
or not at all, to avoid confusing users with information. Thanks anyway.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May 23 19:34:33 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 15:34:33 -0400
Subject: xawtv dependencies still broken
Message-ID: <4A184FC9.1080709@tmr.com>

It was noted for fc10 that xawtv requires fonts which are (a) not loaded by 
default, and (b) omitted from the dependencies. I note that this is still the 
case. When it was discussed some time ago someone said there was a BZ entry for 
it, so I didn't file one, but I can't find it now.

After watching me for about half an hour when I said "yum pulls in the things 
you need," the owner of the laptop and his friends concluded that Linux is just 
for hobby use, they will stick with Windows. The limits of a 4GB thumb drive 
didn't leave room to download every known font, and fc10 won't record from a 
webcam half the time even when xawtv "works" as well as it can.

I will look for the bug Tuesday, clearly no one is going to fix it before the 
release, since it's gone at least six weeks without a fix now.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sat May 23 19:47:49 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 15:47:49 -0400
Subject: httpd Doesn't Seem To Work In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905232103160.23862@sandbox.cz>
References: <4A17FDAC.3020201@speakeasy.net>
	<4A180440.3000705@hi.is>	<4A181C1F.1010306@speakeasy.net>
	<alpine.DEB.1.10.0905232103160.23862@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <4A1852E5.5070703@speakeasy.net>

>
>>
>> Thank you, I get the impression that httpd is listening on port 443 
>> but not port 80 and that is the problem:
>
> 443 is https port, so this is most probably your configuration problem.
>
>
The issue seems to involve how I have my DNS and dhcpd set up. I use 
dhcp to assign specific ip addresses to specific host names. However I'm 
not doing a very good job of it with my laptop. I don't know how to get 
the same IP address (192.168.1.46) assigned to both my wired and 
wireless network adapters (which have different MAC addresses of 
course), so that regardless of which adapter I am using at the moment, I 
can get httpd to work.

If I code this in httpd.conf:

Listen deafeng3.signtype.info:80 and then restart httpd, I will get this 
output:

[root at deafeng3 conf]# service httpd restart
Stopping httpd: [ OK ]
Starting httpd: (99)Cannot assign requested address: make_sock: could 
not bind to address 192.168.1.46:80
no listening sockets available, shutting down
Unable to open logs
[FAILED]


If I code this in httpd.conf:

Listen 192.168.1.48:80


Then it works fine if I open Firefox and browse to http://192.168.1.48/

but

not if I browse to http://localhost/. Maybe for this I need to specify 
an additional 'Listen' entry, 'Listen localhost:80' or 'Listen 
127.0.0.1:80'.

The real issue is I would like to have both my network adapters 
recognized as representing the same hostname on dhcpd, and so assign it 
the same IP address. I can see that can be problematic. So perhaps it 
would be better to have httpd recognize either IP address as being for 
the same hostname.


Here is what ifconfig says:

[root at deafeng3 conf]# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:21:70:C1:AA:79
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
Memory:f6fe0000-f7000000

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:2004 (1.9 KiB) TX bytes:2004 (1.9 KiB)

virbr0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 86:2B:40:DA:C2:A4
inet addr:192.168.122.1 Bcast:192.168.122.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::842b:40ff:feda:c2a4/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:34 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:6380 (6.2 KiB)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:21:6A:0C:7D:FE
inet addr:192.168.1.48 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::221:6aff:fe0c:7dfe/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:4331 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:2218 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:1715481 (1.6 MiB) TX bytes:242937 (237.2 KiB)

wmaster0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 
00-21-6A-0C-7D-FE-D0-FA-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)


I guess this is a new laptop and networking wrinkle that I need to deal 
with.

Bob




From johannbg at hi.is  Sat May 23 21:10:32 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 21:10:32 +0000
Subject: httpd Doesn't Seem To Work In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A1852E5.5070703@speakeasy.net>
References: <4A17FDAC.3020201@speakeasy.net>	<4A180440.3000705@hi.is>	<4A181C1F.1010306@speakeasy.net>	<alpine.DEB.1.10.0905232103160.23862@sandbox.cz>
	<4A1852E5.5070703@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <4A186648.3050501@hi.is>

On 05/23/2009 07:47 PM, Robert L Cochran wrote:

I see that you have not given your self the time to read the well
documented httpd.conf file or
the apache manual ( http://httpd.apache.org/docs/  )

Pay attention to Listen, ServerName directives and dont forget /etc/hosts.

I strongly suggest you take the time and get yourself very familiar with
what ever service you intend to expose to web
to prevent potential misconfiguration you've may do from spamming the
whole internet and what not.

We already have a closed source operating system doing that for us.

Since it has been established that this is not a bug with apache or in
relation with
apache I would like you to direct these questions to their approproate
mailing list
( fedora users list or the upstream apache users list. )

JBG

-- 
Viking-Ice 

One of my gods has a hammer your's was nailed to a cross
You do the math!



From joel.rees at gmail.com  Sat May 23 22:02:04 2009
From: joel.rees at gmail.com (Joel Rees)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 07:02:04 +0900
Subject: httpd Doesn't Seem To Work In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A1852E5.5070703@speakeasy.net>
References: <4A17FDAC.3020201@speakeasy.net>
	<4A180440.3000705@hi.is>	<4A181C1F.1010306@speakeasy.net>
	<alpine.DEB.1.10.0905232103160.23862@sandbox.cz>
	<4A1852E5.5070703@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <5872E03B-CCF7-4ABE-B836-1C93D02273BC@gmail.com>

(Noting Johann's encouragement to find the appropriate newsgroup/ 
mailing list, ...)

On May 24, 2009, at 4:47 AM, Robert L Cochran wrote:

>>
>>>
>>> Thank you, I get the impression that httpd is listening on port  
>>> 443 but not port 80 and that is the problem:
>>
>> 443 is https port, so this is most probably your configuration  
>> problem.
>>
>>
> The issue seems to involve how I have my DNS and dhcpd set up. I  
> use dhcp to assign specific ip addresses to specific host names.

statically or dynamically?

If statically, for small networks I usually just use the /etc/hosts  
file. Well, that, and remember to set the netmasks to include a  
region (or regions) that I'm not letting dhcp allocate automatically.

Some day I want to learn how to set bind up and use no man's lands  
and all that to have internal hosts feeding out to the wide world,  
but I don't have the money to buy (err, rent) the global IP  
addresses, and I have other priorities on my time than learning dns.

> However I'm not doing a very good job of it with my laptop. I don't  
> know how to get the same IP address (192.168.1.46) assigned to both  
> my wired and wireless network adapters (which have different MAC  
> addresses of course), so that regardless of which adapter I am  
> using at the moment, I can get httpd to work.
>
> If I code this in httpd.conf:


I don't recall having a magical tool to coordinate the settings for  
dhcpd, httpd, and bind in the fedora distribution. Would be nice,  
although it would tend to help newbs like myself spam the wide world  
a bit.



From joel.rees at gmail.com  Sat May 23 22:09:39 2009
From: joel.rees at gmail.com (Joel Rees)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 07:09:39 +0900
Subject: key issues
In-Reply-To: <7F87F695-452C-47A2-A9E9-B65F5D92586A@gmail.com>
References: <7F87F695-452C-47A2-A9E9-B65F5D92586A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3BB609EC-323B-4BC0-BCFC-85CB89203603@gmail.com>

Okay, I found mention of the key being in use and the issue of  
getting signed packages fed out to all the mirrors in the updates to  
be installed thread and the child thread about the left-handed mouse  
(which points me to some information I needed about setting the  
trackpad and mouse buttons, and may point me to how to set up context- 
menu-button emulation on single-button iBooks, I hope).

Anyway, I'm going to assume that the reason I haven't seen the  
request for the key yet is the switchover from not using signed keys  
to using them, along with my lack of time to do more than one update  
a week, usually. (And go ahead and install the key and yum clean,  
just for good measure.)

On May 23, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Joel Rees wrote:

> Installed release candidate on an ancient clamshell iBook about a  
> month or so back. Runs very nicely (Netbeans!). Only complaint is  
> that we haven't been able to make any progress on an issue where  
> the Fedora installer overwrites the Mac OS 9 disk drivers, which I  
> wish I had more time to help with.
>
> Last night, about midnight here in Japan, I started a yum update to  
> be running while I slept. It completed sometime before five a.m.
>
> Just for fun, I decided to check again about 9:00 a.m., and it  
> shows about 200M of new stuff. So I started another update, and  
> after the download, I get a prompt for a key:
> --------------------------
> warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 signature: NOKEY,  
> key ID d22e77f2
> updates/ 
> gpgkey                                                                 
>                        | 1.6 kB       00:00
> Importing GPG key 0xD22E77F2 "Fedora (11)  
> <fedora at fedoraproject.org>" from /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY- 
> fedora-ppc
> Is this ok [y/N]:
> --------------------------
> I see from the wiki <https://fedoraproject.org/keys> that this is  
> the key for Fedora 11 test. I was surprised that I would not have  
> already installed the key.
>
> I also saw some posts in the archives here about the key not yet  
> being in use as recently as a couple of weeks back, I think it was.
>
> So, is this the right key, and is it okay to depend on it yet?
>
> Joel Rees



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Sat May 23 23:21:05 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 19:21:05 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 system-config-users failure
In-Reply-To: <4A183F0E.40303@yahoo.com>
References: <20090520075525.E76AB61A2AF@hormel.redhat.com>
	<4A183F0E.40303@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1243120865.2098.42.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>


On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 14:23 -0400, James J Catchpole wrote:
> When I use system-config-users I get the following failure. 

I would file this backtrace in a bug report at bugzilla.redhat.com,
along with the version number from rpm -q system-config-users and a
description of how to reproduce the crash or your best recollection of
what you were doing at the time.

-B.



From mcepl at redhat.com  Sat May 23 23:30:54 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 23:30:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Greasemonkey script unified and updated
Message-ID: <gva0ve$8ar$1@ger.gmane.org>

With the recent breakage of the Bugzappers Greasemonkey script (https://
fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Tools) by the upgrade of the bugzilla 
bug page, I have taken the opportunity the clean up the thing. So,

a) there is now one and only Greasemonkey script for everybody, and it 
resides directly in the triage repository on fedorahosted.org site 
(http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=triage.git;a=blob_plain;f=scripts/
bugzillaBugTriage.user.js;hb=HEAD). Don't accept any substitutes!
b) There is no need for separate signature script; actually ANY other 
Greasemonkey script I have ever done for the Red Hat bugzilla (and there 
were few) is subsumed in the current one, and before installing the new 
one all other should be uninstalled.
c) Any complaints or requests for enhancements of the scripts, or other 
comments should be directed to me.

Mat?j



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Sat May 23 23:46:56 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 19:46:56 -0400
Subject: Greasemonkey script unified and updated
In-Reply-To: <gva0ve$8ar$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gva0ve$8ar$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4A188AF0.6000000@gmail.com>

Matej Cepl wrote:
> With the recent breakage of the Bugzappers Greasemonkey script (https://
> fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Tools) by the upgrade of the bugzilla 
> bug page, I have taken the opportunity the clean up the thing. So,
>
> a) there is now one and only Greasemonkey script for everybody, and it 
> resides directly in the triage repository on fedorahosted.org site 
> (http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=triage.git;a=blob_plain;f=scripts/
> bugzillaBugTriage.user.js;hb=HEAD). Don't accept any substitutes!
> b) There is no need for separate signature script; actually ANY other 
> Greasemonkey script I have ever done for the Red Hat bugzilla (and there 
> were few) is subsumed in the current one, and before installing the new 
> one all other should be uninstalled.
> c) Any complaints or requests for enhancements of the scripts, or other 
> comments should be directed to me.
>
> Mat?j
>
>   
Thank you doing this Mat?j, it is much appreciated.

Edward (TK009)



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sun May 24 00:17:16 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:17:16 -0400
Subject: httpd Doesn't Seem To Work In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A1852E5.5070703@speakeasy.net>
References: <4A17FDAC.3020201@speakeasy.net>	<4A180440.3000705@hi.is>	<4A181C1F.1010306@speakeasy.net>	<alpine.DEB.1.10.0905232103160.23862@sandbox.cz>
	<4A1852E5.5070703@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <4A18920C.4070804@tmr.com>

Robert L Cochran wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you, I get the impression that httpd is listening on port 443 
>>> but not port 80 and that is the problem:
>>
>> 443 is https port, so this is most probably your configuration problem.
>>
>>
> The issue seems to involve how I have my DNS and dhcpd set up. I use 
> dhcp to assign specific ip addresses to specific host names. However I'm 
> not doing a very good job of it with my laptop. I don't know how to get 
> the same IP address (192.168.1.46) assigned to both my wired and 
> wireless network adapters (which have different MAC addresses of 
> course), so that regardless of which adapter I am using at the moment, I 
> can get httpd to work.
> 
You may be trying to do this the hard way. Instead of trying to tie the same IP 
to both NICs, which presents configuration challenges at the best of times, just 
have the name be the same and it becomes a multi-homed node. That's pretty well 
handled by almost everything without wizard level config, if you run your own 
DNS you have two A records for the name, and reverse DNS both IPs resolve back 
to the same name.

This was my solution, and I don't recall any issues, forward and reverse DNS 
lookups, IP and name assign in DHCP.

I don't know if this will solve your problem, it's quite simple, I've also done 
complex things which ran through a VPN always, on the cable, on the wifi, and 
from the outside when I'm on the road.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sun May 24 00:22:11 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:22:11 -0400
Subject: httpd Doesn't Seem To Work In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A186648.3050501@hi.is>
References: <4A17FDAC.3020201@speakeasy.net>	<4A180440.3000705@hi.is>	<4A181C1F.1010306@speakeasy.net>	<alpine.DEB.1.10.0905232103160.23862@sandbox.cz>	<4A1852E5.5070703@speakeasy.net>
	<4A186648.3050501@hi.is>
Message-ID: <4A189333.1030906@speakeasy.net>

The issue here is one of using dhcp and bind correctly for a laptop 
running a web server. I'm pretty mobile, and still need to use the web 
server while on the go.

I think this has potential for the Fedora 11 installation guide and/or 
the wiki. I'm sure someone before me has faced and solved this problem 
so it is just a matter of documenting it. I'm sure someone will have 
additional comments.

Bob




On 05/23/2009 05:10 PM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> On 05/23/2009 07:47 PM, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>
> I see that you have not given your self the time to read the well
> documented httpd.conf file or
> the apache manual ( http://httpd.apache.org/docs/  )
>
> Pay attention to Listen, ServerName directives and dont forget /etc/hosts.
>
> I strongly suggest you take the time and get yourself very familiar with
> what ever service you intend to expose to web
> to prevent potential misconfiguration you've may do from spamming the
> whole internet and what not.
>
> We already have a closed source operating system doing that for us.
>
> Since it has been established that this is not a bug with apache or in
> relation with
> apache I would like you to direct these questions to their approproate
> mailing list
> ( fedora users list or the upstream apache users list. )
>
> JBG
>
>    



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sun May 24 00:29:39 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:29:39 -0400
Subject: httpd Doesn't Seem To Work In Fedora 11
In-Reply-To: <4A18920C.4070804@tmr.com>
References: <4A17FDAC.3020201@speakeasy.net>	<4A180440.3000705@hi.is>	<4A181C1F.1010306@speakeasy.net>	<alpine.DEB.1.10.0905232103160.23862@sandbox.cz>	<4A1852E5.5070703@speakeasy.net>
	<4A18920C.4070804@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <4A1894F3.3080409@speakeasy.net>

On 05/23/2009 08:17 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Robert L Cochran wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you, I get the impression that httpd is listening on port 443 
>>>> but not port 80 and that is the problem:
>>>
>>> 443 is https port, so this is most probably your configuration problem.
>>>
>>>
>> The issue seems to involve how I have my DNS and dhcpd set up. I use 
>> dhcp to assign specific ip addresses to specific host names. However 
>> I'm not doing a very good job of it with my laptop. I don't know how 
>> to get the same IP address (192.168.1.46) assigned to both my wired 
>> and wireless network adapters (which have different MAC addresses of 
>> course), so that regardless of which adapter I am using at the 
>> moment, I can get httpd to work.
>>
> You may be trying to do this the hard way. Instead of trying to tie 
> the same IP to both NICs, which presents configuration challenges at 
> the best of times, just have the name be the same and it becomes a 
> multi-homed node. That's pretty well handled by almost everything 
> without wizard level config, if you run your own DNS you have two A 
> records for the name, and reverse DNS both IPs resolve back to the 
> same name.
>
> This was my solution, and I don't recall any issues, forward and 
> reverse DNS lookups, IP and name assign in DHCP.
>
> I don't know if this will solve your problem, it's quite simple, I've 
> also done complex things which ran through a VPN always, on the cable, 
> on the wifi, and from the outside when I'm on the road.
>

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the hint. I'll definitely look at my DNS entries later 
tonight and play with them.

Bob




From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sun May 24 00:37:47 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:37:47 -0400
Subject: xawtv dependencies still broken
In-Reply-To: <4A184FC9.1080709@tmr.com>
References: <4A184FC9.1080709@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <4A1896DB.5030507@speakeasy.net>

I'd like to express support for this too since I'm currently involved in 
a project that would benefit from a working xawtv (in Fedora 11.) Too 
bad it's broken due to missing fonts.

[rlc at deafeng3 ~]$ rpm -q xawtv
xawtv-3.95-11.fc11.x86_64

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[rlc at deafeng3 ~]$ xawtv
This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/x86_64 (2.6.29.3-155.fc11.x86_64)
xinerama 0: 1280x800+0+0
WARNING: No DGA support available for this display.
/dev/video0 [v4l2]: no overlay support
v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
Warning: Cannot convert string "7x13bold" to type FontStruct
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Cannot convert string 
"-*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*,           
-*-courier-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*,          
-gnu-unifont-bold-r-normal--16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*,        
-efont-biwidth-bold-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,                 
-*-*-bold-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-m-*-*-*,                 
-*-*-bold-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*,                         
-*-*-*-*-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" to type FontSet
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
Error: Aborting: no fontset found


Bob


On 05/23/2009 03:34 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> It was noted for fc10 that xawtv requires fonts which are (a) not 
> loaded by default, and (b) omitted from the dependencies. I note that 
> this is still the case. When it was discussed some time ago someone 
> said there was a BZ entry for it, so I didn't file one, but I can't 
> find it now.
>
> After watching me for about half an hour when I said "yum pulls in the 
> things you need," the owner of the laptop and his friends concluded 
> that Linux is just for hobby use, they will stick with Windows. The 
> limits of a 4GB thumb drive didn't leave room to download every known 
> font, and fc10 won't record from a webcam half the time even when 
> xawtv "works" as well as it can.
>
> I will look for the bug Tuesday, clearly no one is going to fix it 
> before the release, since it's gone at least six weeks without a fix now.
>



From bruno at wolff.to  Sun May 24 03:37:03 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 22:37:03 -0500
Subject: Some success with dahdi in F11
Message-ID: <20090524033703.GA11316@wolff.to>

Since I haven't seen addon rpms for dahdi or zaptel for F11 yet I tried
playing with it myself basing off a spec file proposed for rpmfusion.
Dahdi 2.1.0.4 didn't build in a way that looks like that branch hasn't been
changed to work with the 2.6.29 kernel. I figured that meant it was likely
that zaptel wouldn't either and didn't pursue that. I was able to get
Dahdi 2.2.0.0-rc4 to build most of its stuff. One driver I didn't use
seem to be having build problems related to a name change. I was able to
tweak the spec file to not fail because of this, but I think there is a
problem with Digium's build process.

Unfortunately only having dahdi limited me to asterisk (callweaver still
only works with the older zaptel drivers). But I was able to get a simple
test case working with my analog TDM hardware.



From reidr at pobox.com  Sun May 24 04:50:09 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 22:50:09 -0600
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
Message-ID: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.  I got my F11 preupdate to work; I think maybe an anaconda update
did the trick.  So now I'm running F11.  I've run into a few issues.
I used to have an audio volume applet installed in my gnome panel,
which made it convenient to quickly adjust the volume.    When I first
logged in under F11, it put up a dialog that said something about that
applet no longer exisitng.  I don't see an obvious replacement.  Is
there something else I could use or install?  (I guess I'll ask about
other issues in other mails as necessary....)

Thanks!

-- 
Reid

George Carlin  - "Electricity is really just organized lightning." -
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/george_carlin.html



From Samba30i at aim.com  Sun May 24 05:37:23 2009
From: Samba30i at aim.com (Greg)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:37:23 +1000
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>

On 24/05/2009 2:50 PM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> Hi.  I got my F11 preupdate to work; I think maybe an anaconda update
> did the trick.  So now I'm running F11.  I've run into a few issues.
> I used to have an audio volume applet installed in my gnome panel,
> which made it convenient to quickly adjust the volume.    When I first
> logged in under F11, it put up a dialog that said something about that
> applet no longer exisitng.  I don't see an obvious replacement.  Is
> there something else I could use or install?  (I guess I'll ask about
> other issues in other mails as necessary....)
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Reid
>
>     Try running at a console:
>
>     alsamixer -c0
>
>     that should give you access to the 'real' hardware volume controls
>     for your card. You may need to boost one of those to get full volume.
>
that may get you more sound volume



From fedora at kaarefc.dk  Sun May 24 07:29:09 2009
From: fedora at kaarefc.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=E5re_Fiedler_Christiansen?=)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 09:29:09 +0200
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <gv9gsj$6m9$4@ger.gmane.org>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> 
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org> 
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net> 
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<484d2aac0905230609x5436dfb2l688472dc614e37c6@mail.gmail.com> 
	<gv9gsj$6m9$4@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <484d2aac0905240029p40c4b94fpd34b9e3989bde510@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 20:56, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at> wrote:
> K?re Fiedler Christiansen wrote:
>> One of the reasons I use the Adobe flash plugin is the support for
>> webcams.
>
> You consider sending your webcam's images out to WEB SITES a feature? I call
> it a privacy invasion and a security risk.

That's just ridiculous. the Flash plugin doesn't send anything to any
website without me accepting it. How is sending images from my webcams
different from uploading photos? Sending emails? Writing blogs?

It's just transmitting data, and as long as I have control over what
data is transmitted I don't see any problem. By your logic we should
remove all protocols that support sending webcam images on the ground
that it might be used to invade your privacy.

How sending webcam images has anything to do with security is beyond
me, unless you expect me to point the camera at my keyboard while
typing my password.

Anyway, you are hardly being constructive. Do you seriously suggest
that the page describing how to use the Adobe flash plugin is better
if you omit how to make a certain feature of it work? Currently you
will simply get distorted images if you try to use the feature, and it
will reflect on Fedora as if Fedora doesn't support webcams properly.

Best,
  K?re
-- 
K?re Fiedler Christiansen



From fedora at kaarefc.dk  Sun May 24 07:46:27 2009
From: fedora at kaarefc.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=E5re_Fiedler_Christiansen?=)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 09:46:27 +0200
Subject: Bluetooth enable in fc11?
In-Reply-To: <4A184D2A.5090609@tmr.com>
References: <4A171B9D.209@tmr.com>
	<f6ca9fed0905230427q147e2a58q3b56570ae96ecf0a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A180094.70905@tmr.com>
	<f6ca9fed0905230708l26ea30bfw608108c81f4b783a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A184D2A.5090609@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <484d2aac0905240046h58961703s69fcf9542c1e9e6d@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 21:23, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
> drago01 wrote:

<snip>

>> When a BT device is plugged in / detected you should see an icon in
>> the notification-area.
>
> I agree, only it doesn't work that way. I was looking for a tool like
> Windows has, which enumerates the BT devices in the area, clearly support
> hasn't prograssed that far. Like iwlist for wifi, to get the info which is
> available instead of what NetworkMangler thinks you are allowed to see.

If it doesn't, my guess is your bluetooth hardware isn't actually recognised.
I'm not exactly an expert at this, but you can try to see if there is
actually a bluetooth kernel module loaded.
If my case, I have a line if I do "lspci" that gives me

bluetooth              48608  11 rfcomm,bnep,sco,l2cap,btusb

You could also look in the output of "dmesg" to look for any messages
about bluetooth, to see if the kernel module is loaded.

>> The rightclick menu offers different things you can do with bluetooth,
>> it also provides a wizard for setting up new devices.
>>
> I would settle for totally manual method if it worked, actually prefer it so
> I could see where it doesn't work.

Have you tried "hcitool" and the other commands starting with hci? It
sounds to me like they are exactly what you are requesting.

If you get things working with those tools, and bluetooth doesn't work
out of the box in F11 (and indeed F10) you should probably file a bug.

Best,
  K?re
-- 
K?re Fiedler Christiansen



From mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de  Sun May 24 09:02:30 2009
From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:02:30 +0200
Subject: xawtv dependencies still broken
In-Reply-To: <4A184FC9.1080709@tmr.com>
References: <4A184FC9.1080709@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <20090524110230.105da3e7@faldor.intranet>

On Sat, 23 May 2009 15:34:33 -0400, Bill wrote:

> It was noted for fc10 that xawtv requires fonts which are (a) not loaded by 
> default, and (b) omitted from the dependencies. I note that this is still the 
> case. When it was discussed some time ago someone said there was a BZ entry for 
> it, so I didn't file one, but I can't find it now.

http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/xawtv  -> first ticket that is listed

The "Report" link makes it very easy to open a new ticket in case you
want that.



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Sun May 24 09:50:18 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:50:18 +0800
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221022430.17072@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is>
	<4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<20090522100858.61ca5a30@zooty>	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221012120.17072@localhost.localdomain>	<20090522102200.7ffb8584@zooty>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221022430.17072@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A19185A.3000900@herakles.homelinux.org>

Seth Vidal wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 22 May 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 22 May 2009 10:12:57 -0400 (EDT)
>> Seth Vidal wrote:
>>
>>> if some package you used a while back is still around and still being
>>> worked on then chances are good it has improved.
>>
>> And if it is open source, chances are good it still has no
>> documentation :-).
> 
> And since it is open source, instead of just being snarky about it - you 
> can actually contribute to that project and fix the lack of code.
> 
> -sv
> 
That requires someone to actually understand what is intended, what it 
does and why it's useful.

If it works as well as Tom implies, those criteria aren't met.



-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Sun May 24 09:58:43 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:58:43 +0800
Subject: Release Criteria
In-Reply-To: <gv6m8f$rme$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4A16D6BF.8010608@yahoo.com> <gv6m8f$rme$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4A191A53.6080703@herakles.homelinux.org>

Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Allen Kistler wrote:
>> All the release criteria on the referenced page are about booting and
>> running, which makes sense as far as it goes, but what about shutting
>> down?  Although they're mostly fixed now, there was a series of bugs
>> dealing with F11 being unable under certain conditions to shut down
>> without the use of the power button.
> 
> You can always hit the power button if the system fails to shutdown, so it
> isn't really critical.

Are you sane?

I the system won't shut down properly, a quick press of the power button 
is likely not to work either.

Hitting the power button to force a poweroff risks loss of data. It is 
most certainly _not_ fit for release if this is expected.
> 
> The idea is that everything which can be fixed in an update is not
> release-critical.


Are there any criteria that said, "Must not harm anyone's computer?" I 
raise this because, a while ago, there was a kernel bug that could harm 
computers (including the HP DC7700) that had on-board Intel NICs.

Fedora stepped around that one by disabling the offending driver, but 
there still existed a risk for those who might build their own kernels.

Opensuse released an alpha, beta or preview or some such containing this 
bug. The release notes mentioned it, but I thought it incredibly risky.




-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Sun May 24 10:00:18 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:00:18 +0800
Subject: Release Criteria
In-Reply-To: <4A16D6BF.8010608@yahoo.com>
References: <4A16D6BF.8010608@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A191AB2.1000201@herakles.homelinux.org>

Allen Kistler wrote:
> was: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with firefox
>     be a release blocker?
> 
> Brian Pepple wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 09:13 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477639
>>
>> No, I don't believe that meets the release blocker criteria.
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/ReleaseCriteria
> 
> So in a slightly different direction...
> 
> All the release criteria on the referenced page are about booting and 
> running, which makes sense as far as it goes, but what about shutting 
> down?  Although they're mostly fixed now, there was a series of bugs 
> dealing with F11 being unable under certain conditions to shut down 
> without the use of the power button.
> 
> It's a generic enough condition, I think it should probably apply to any 
> release of any OS, maybe here with wording something like "installed 
> system MUST be able to shut down or reboot from any runlevel" and 
> perhaps with an additional "installed system SHOULD be able to change 
> between any two runlevels."
> 
> For most wikis, I'd have put the question on the Talk page, but 
> ReleaseCriteria doesn't have a Talk page.
> 
> Anyway, thoughts?
> 
I generally understand the difference between "should" and "must," but 
in these criteria I don't so how "should" us useful. How many shoulds 
does it take to make a must?





-- 

Cheers
John

-- spambait
1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu  Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu
-- Advice
http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You cannot reply off-list:-)



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun May 24 10:02:22 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:32:22 +0530
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <4A19185A.3000900@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is>	<4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>	<20090522100858.61ca5a30@zooty>	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221012120.17072@localhost.localdomain>	<20090522102200.7ffb8584@zooty>	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905221022430.17072@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A19185A.3000900@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <4A191B2E.2020801@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/24/2009 03:20 PM, John Summerfield wrote:

> That requires someone to actually understand what is intended, what it
> does and why it's useful.
> 
> If it works as well as Tom implies, those criteria aren't met.

If he hasn't tried it after since it was first introduced, I don't think
his impressions are accurate. If you don't think the program is actually
useful, then there is no point in complaining about the lack of
documentation anyway.

Rahul



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Sun May 24 10:56:46 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 04:56:46 -0600
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
Message-ID: <1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 15:37 +1000, Greg wrote:
> On 24/05/2009 2:50 PM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> > Hi.  I got my F11 preupdate to work; I think maybe an anaconda update
> > did the trick.  So now I'm running F11.  I've run into a few issues.
> > I used to have an audio volume applet installed in my gnome panel,
> > which made it convenient to quickly adjust the volume.    When I first
> > logged in under F11, it put up a dialog that said something about that
> > applet no longer exisitng.  I don't see an obvious replacement.  Is
> > there something else I could use or install?  (I guess I'll ask about
> > other issues in other mails as necessary....)
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -- Reid
> >
> >     Try running at a console:
> >
> >     alsamixer -c0
> >
> >     that should give you access to the 'real' hardware volume controls
> >     for your card. You may need to boost one of those to get full volume.
> >
> that may get you more sound volume
> 

Install gst-mixer either at root or yum extender.  Then go to
system/preference/Advanced sound and there it is
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From mcepl at redhat.com  Sun May 24 12:15:04 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:15:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Greasemonkey script unified and updated
References: <gva0ve$8ar$1@ger.gmane.org> <4A188AF0.6000000@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gvbdo8$pg0$1@ger.gmane.org>

TK009, Sat, 23 May 2009 19:46:56 -0400:
> Thank you doing this Mat?j, it is much appreciated.

... that's like whole FLOSS movemement ... I do it for myself (I cannot 
manage to do my work with plain bugzilla) and many other people profit 
from that as well.

Mat?j



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Sun May 24 13:36:37 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 07:36:37 -0600
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <484d2aac0905240029p40c4b94fpd34b9e3989bde510@mail.gmail.com>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<484d2aac0905230609x5436dfb2l688472dc614e37c6@mail.gmail.com>
	<gv9gsj$6m9$4@ger.gmane.org>
	<484d2aac0905240029p40c4b94fpd34b9e3989bde510@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243172197.23694.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 09:29 +0200, K?re Fiedler Christiansen wrote:

> Anyway, you are hardly being constructive. Do you seriously suggest
> that the page describing how to use the Adobe flash plugin is better
> if you omit how to make a certain feature of it work? Currently you
> will simply get distorted images if you try to use the feature, and it
> will reflect on Fedora as if Fedora doesn't support webcams properly.

Indeed!

In fact, this entire thread is one hornet's nest that I truly regret
having somehow kicked over. Believe me when I say that was _never_ my
intent.

By the by, I never got to answer Paul's question of how he could have
put this better with respect to "people who care about software
freedom", as it appeared. The interesting part is, if you read the posts
carefully, we're in agreement about the values, but just have a slight
difference of opinion in in how they are best expressed. And even then,
there was room for discussion and compromise. I would have used
something like this to make the point:

        The page has been updated to include that 1) Flash is not Free
        Software (although it may be available free of charge), and 2)
        that there are Free and Open Source software alternatives to
        Flash which may be adequate for an individual user's needs.
        Making this annotation is in keeping with Fedora's values of
        promoting and encouraging the use of Free and Open Source
        software.

I think this makes the same point, but does so in a way that better
avoids the "slight" that I and a couple of others detected in the
language.

OK - moving on now. Hopefully others will as well! There a release that
still needs a few small kinks knocked out and we don't need to be
distracted.

Cheers,

Chris


--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw






From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Sun May 24 14:58:40 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 08:58:40 -0600
Subject: Flash instructions updated
In-Reply-To: <1243172197.23694.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <199732.47354.qm@web110708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1242759752.3269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gv32la$5d2$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1242902658.3708.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242907731.6788.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1242910158.4122.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1584FB.5020100@kymp.net>
	<1242926728.2099.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<484d2aac0905230609x5436dfb2l688472dc614e37c6@mail.gmail.com>
	<gv9gsj$6m9$4@ger.gmane.org>
	<484d2aac0905240029p40c4b94fpd34b9e3989bde510@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243172197.23694.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243177120.3687.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 07:36 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 09:29 +0200, K?re Fiedler Christiansen wrote:
> 
> > Anyway, you are hardly being constructive. Do you seriously suggest
> > that the page describing how to use the Adobe flash plugin is better
> > if you omit how to make a certain feature of it work? Currently you
> > will simply get distorted images if you try to use the feature, and it
> > will reflect on Fedora as if Fedora doesn't support webcams properly.
> 
> Indeed!
> 
> In fact, this entire thread is one hornet's nest that I truly regret
> having somehow kicked over. Believe me when I say that was _never_ my
> intent.
> 
> By the by, I never got to answer Paul's question of how he could have
> put this better with respect to "people who care about software
> freedom", as it appeared. The interesting part is, if you read the posts
> carefully, we're in agreement about the values, but just have a slight
> difference of opinion in in how they are best expressed. And even then,
> there was room for discussion and compromise. I would have used
> something like this to make the point:
> 
>         The page has been updated to include that 1) Flash is not Free
>         Software (although it may be available free of charge), and 2)
>         that there are Free and Open Source software alternatives to
>         Flash which may be adequate for an individual user's needs.
>         Making this annotation is in keeping with Fedora's values of
>         promoting and encouraging the use of Free and Open Source
>         software.
> 
> I think this makes the same point, but does so in a way that better
> avoids the "slight" that I and a couple of others detected in the
> language.
> 
> OK - moving on now. Hopefully others will as well! There a release that
> still needs a few small kinks knocked out and we don't need to be
> distracted.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> --
> =============================
> "You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
> I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"
> 
> -- George Bernard Shaw
> 
Thanks for your effort to end this unneeded war over opinions.  I agree
this energy could be used elsewhere.  Let us move on to bigger and
better things.
> 
> 
> 
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>




From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sun May 24 15:34:33 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:34:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090524 changes
Message-ID: <20090524153433.BF2611F821D@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sun May 24 06:15:09 UTC 2009

Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From reidr at pobox.com  Sun May 24 15:58:48 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 09:58:48 -0600
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <13142890905240858n55c6765cua8751f93aced693@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Lawrence E. Graves
<lgraves at risingstarmbc.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 15:37 +1000, Greg wrote:
>> On 24/05/2009 2:50 PM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
>> > Hi. ?I got my F11 preupdate to work; I think maybe an anaconda update
>> > did the trick. ?So now I'm running F11. ?I've run into a few issues.
>> > I used to have an audio volume applet installed in my gnome panel,
>> > which made it convenient to quickly adjust the volume. ? ?When I first
>> > logged in under F11, it put up a dialog that said something about that
>> > applet no longer exisitng. ?I don't see an obvious replacement. ?Is
>> > there something else I could use or install? ?(I guess I'll ask about
>> > other issues in other mails as necessary....)
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > -- Reid
>> >
>> > ? ? Try running at a console:
>> >
>> > ? ? alsamixer -c0
>> >
>> > ? ? that should give you access to the 'real' hardware volume controls
>> > ? ? for your card. You may need to boost one of those to get full volume.
>> >
>> that may get you more sound volume
>>
>
> Install gst-mixer either at root or yum extender. ?Then go to
> system/preference/Advanced sound and there it is

Thanks for the pointers.  I didn't have gst-mixer installed.  But it
looks like a standalone mixer tool.  I'd like to have a gnome panel
applet that I can use to easily mouse wheel up/down to change the
volume.  Does gst-mixer or something else provide that?  I'm not even
sure what the name of the volume applet was in F10 and earlier....
(And to clarify, sound is working fine.)

Reid



From drago01 at gmail.com  Sun May 24 16:50:04 2009
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:50:04 +0200
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <13142890905240858n55c6765cua8751f93aced693@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<13142890905240858n55c6765cua8751f93aced693@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0905240950q71f52350j45d8363c10a1f4b5@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Reid Rivenburgh <reidr at pobox.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Lawrence E. Graves
> <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 15:37 +1000, Greg wrote:
>>> On 24/05/2009 2:50 PM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
>>> > Hi. ?I got my F11 preupdate to work; I think maybe an anaconda update
>>> > did the trick. ?So now I'm running F11. ?I've run into a few issues.
>>> > I used to have an audio volume applet installed in my gnome panel,
>>> > which made it convenient to quickly adjust the volume. ? ?When I first
>>> > logged in under F11, it put up a dialog that said something about that
>>> > applet no longer exisitng. ?I don't see an obvious replacement. ?Is
>>> > there something else I could use or install? ?(I guess I'll ask about
>>> > other issues in other mails as necessary....)
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> >
>>> > -- Reid
>>> >
>>> > ? ? Try running at a console:
>>> >
>>> > ? ? alsamixer -c0
>>> >
>>> > ? ? that should give you access to the 'real' hardware volume controls
>>> > ? ? for your card. You may need to boost one of those to get full volume.
>>> >
>>> that may get you more sound volume
>>>
>>
>> Install gst-mixer either at root or yum extender. ?Then go to
>> system/preference/Advanced sound and there it is
>
> Thanks for the pointers. ?I didn't have gst-mixer installed. ?But it
> looks like a standalone mixer tool. ?I'd like to have a gnome panel
> applet that I can use to easily mouse wheel up/down to change the
> volume. ?Does gst-mixer or something else provide that? ?I'm not even
> sure what the name of the volume applet was in F10 and earlier....
> (And to clarify, sound is working fine.)

You should have an icon in the notification area.  (It is no longer an
applet but a notification area icon).



From awilliam at redhat.com  Sun May 24 13:34:56 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 06:34:56 -0700
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 04:56 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 15:37 +1000, Greg wrote:
> > On 24/05/2009 2:50 PM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> > > Hi.  I got my F11 preupdate to work; I think maybe an anaconda update
> > > did the trick.  So now I'm running F11.  I've run into a few issues.
> > > I used to have an audio volume applet installed in my gnome panel,
> > > which made it convenient to quickly adjust the volume.    When I first
> > > logged in under F11, it put up a dialog that said something about that
> > > applet no longer exisitng.  I don't see an obvious replacement.  Is
> > > there something else I could use or install?  (I guess I'll ask about
> > > other issues in other mails as necessary....)
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > -- Reid
> > >
> > >     Try running at a console:
> > >
> > >     alsamixer -c0
> > >
> > >     that should give you access to the 'real' hardware volume controls
> > >     for your card. You may need to boost one of those to get full volume.
> > >
> > that may get you more sound volume
> > 
> 
> Install gst-mixer either at root or yum extender.  Then go to
> system/preference/Advanced sound and there it is

Neither of those is really the answer, though, the new applet should
replace the old one smoothly...has anyone else noticed this on an
upgrade? Reid, is the package gnome-media installed?
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From reidr at pobox.com  Sun May 24 17:12:20 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:12:20 -0600
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <f6ca9fed0905240950q71f52350j45d8363c10a1f4b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<13142890905240858n55c6765cua8751f93aced693@mail.gmail.com> 
	<f6ca9fed0905240950q71f52350j45d8363c10a1f4b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13142890905241012k60a31eaar8a6f84c244c394c9@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:50 AM, drago01 <drago01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> You should have an icon in the notification area. ?(It is no longer an
> applet but a notification area icon).

You're right, I hadn't even noticed that!  Thanks.  Unfortunately, my
notification area is on a short panel along the bottom.  I used to
have the volume applet on a wide panel along the right and was able to
position it exactly where I wanted, in the upper-right corner.  That
made it easy to get to.  (Position in the notification area seems a
bit random.)  Oh well, this is much better than nothing!

Thanks again,
Reid



From reidr at pobox.com  Sun May 24 17:21:58 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:21:58 -0600
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> Neither of those is really the answer, though, the new applet should
> replace the old one smoothly...has anyone else noticed this on an
> upgrade? Reid, is the package gnome-media installed?

Hi Adam.  I have this installed:

gnome-media-2.26.0-6.fc11.x86_64

And when I right-click on a panel and say "Add to panel...", none of
the applets (if that's the right term) seem to be related to
audio/mixing.  But it sounds like it was replaced with a notification
area approach....

Another potential problem I have is this:

% rpm -qa | grep fc10 | wc -l
136

Here are a few random examples:

yum-plugin-upgrade-helper-1.1.22-1.fc10.noarch
qt-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386
krusader-2.0.0-1.fc10.x86_64
kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64

I upgraded using preupgrade.  Is it normal to still have that many
fc10 rpms installed?  Maybe having some third party packages like
picasa caused this?  I checked a few cases by hand, and sometimes I
have both fc10 and fc11 rpms installed (but otherwise identical).
Whatever the cause, I'm afraid that could cause some strange behavior.

Reid



From reidr at pobox.com  Sun May 24 17:30:01 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:30:01 -0600
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>
	<13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13142890905241030i5f87b6ffx1c71a22b762ca@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Reid Rivenburgh <reidr at pobox.com> wrote:
> Another potential problem I have is this:
>
> % rpm -qa | grep fc10 | wc -l
> 136
>
> Here are a few random examples:
>
> yum-plugin-upgrade-helper-1.1.22-1.fc10.noarch
> qt-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386
> krusader-2.0.0-1.fc10.x86_64
> kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64
>
> I upgraded using preupgrade. ?Is it normal to still have that many
> fc10 rpms installed? ?Maybe having some third party packages like
> picasa caused this? ?I checked a few cases by hand, and sometimes I
> have both fc10 and fc11 rpms installed (but otherwise identical).
> Whatever the cause, I'm afraid that could cause some strange behavior.

Since I mentioned this, more info....  After upgrading, I couldn't
even use yum until I manually installed the fc11 version.  Until I did
a "yum clean", it wasn't updating many packages.  After cleaning, it
just updated 112 packages, and now my fc10 list is down to 57.
Getting there!  I should probably reboot since I've changed the system
quite a bit.

Thanks,
Reid



From caf at omen.com  Sun May 24 17:58:15 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 10:58:15 -0700
Subject: Experiences upgrading omen.com to Rawhide
Message-ID: <4A198AB7.9000102@omen.com>

Rawhide seems to be settling down so I decided
it was time to try Rawhide on my server which had
been running Fedora 10 with an older Rawhide kernel.

Initial installation  and network setup went about as
well as can be expected given the two networks
and local installation files.

At first Apache and crontab just didn't work.  Not seeing
any relevant error messages, it took a while to identify
Selinux as the bad actor.  Things worked after disabling
Selinux.

I installed dhcpd with add/remove software.  This version
doesn't work with the services applet.  Another version
of dhcpd apparently does work this way.

The advanced volume control app now starts the mixer.
May I suggest it be called what it is - mixer.

Previously reported problems with the mixer not being
able to select CD/AUX remain.  I am trying to isolate a
problem where the recording gain changes for no
apparent reason, then changes back some time later.

Otherwise, with Selinux turned off and a few other tweeks Rawhide
seems to be stable running omen.com.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
   Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From michal at harddata.com  Sun May 24 18:29:05 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:29:05 -0600
Subject: f10 marked packages (was: Volume applet for gnome?)
In-Reply-To: <13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>
	<13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090524182905.GA28043@mail.harddata.com>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:21:58AM -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> 
> Another potential problem I have is this:
> 
> % rpm -qa | grep fc10 | wc -l
> 136

If you install 'yum-utils' then you will find there
'package-cleanup' utility.  The first check is 

    package-cleanup --problems

If none are reported then your installation is self-consistent.
The next one would be 

    package-cleanup --orphans

If you will see some "orphans", i.e. packages not in F11
repositories, then you may remove some or all of them.  Check for
"problems" again once you did that.

Assorted packages in F11 repos can be inherited from F10.  Quite
often there is no need to recompile.

    Michal



From reidr at pobox.com  Sun May 24 19:16:46 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:16:46 -0600
Subject: f10 marked packages (was: Volume applet for gnome?)
In-Reply-To: <20090524182905.GA28043@mail.harddata.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>
	<13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20090524182905.GA28043@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <13142890905241216x6feab8a2r5f2a75a031f73185@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Michal Jaegermann <michal at harddata.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:21:58AM -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
>>
>> Another potential problem I have is this:
>>
>> % rpm -qa | grep fc10 | wc -l
>> 136
>
> If you install 'yum-utils' then you will find there
> 'package-cleanup' utility. ?The first check is
>
> ? ?package-cleanup --problems
>
> If none are reported then your installation is self-consistent.
> The next one would be
>
> ? ?package-cleanup --orphans
>
> If you will see some "orphans", i.e. packages not in F11
> repositories, then you may remove some or all of them. ?Check for
> "problems" again once you did that.
>
> Assorted packages in F11 repos can be inherited from F10. ?Quite
> often there is no need to recompile.

Thanks for the reminder about package-cleanup.  Unfortunately, I do
have problems.  Some I was able to easily resolve, but here's one
tricky one (of about 10 total):

Package qt-mysql-4.5.1-10.fc10.x86_64 requires libcrypto.so.7()(64bit)

I just checked a development mirror site and found this:

qt-mysql-4.5.0-14.fc11.x86_64.rpm

Is it possible that some of my pre-upgrade rpms (when I was using
F10's updates-testing, not rawhide) were newer versions than the F11
ones, and therefore they didn't get upgraded?  That's what these
versions seem to suggest.  I guess I can force install the F11
versions now and get things in order?

Thanks,
Reid



From fedora at kaarefc.dk  Sun May 24 19:28:27 2009
From: fedora at kaarefc.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=E5re_Fiedler_Christiansen?=)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:28:27 +0200
Subject: f10 marked packages (was: Volume applet for gnome?)
In-Reply-To: <13142890905241216x6feab8a2r5f2a75a031f73185@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>
	<13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20090524182905.GA28043@mail.harddata.com>
	<13142890905241216x6feab8a2r5f2a75a031f73185@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484d2aac0905241228x41315e02qb4c4b1b687f72149@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 21:16, Reid Rivenburgh <reidr at pobox.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Is it possible that some of my pre-upgrade rpms (when I was using
> F10's updates-testing, not rawhide) were newer versions than the F11
> ones, and therefore they didn't get upgraded? ?That's what these
> versions seem to suggest. ?I guess I can force install the F11
> versions now and get things in order?

There's an updates-testing-repository for Fedora 11 as well. You can
find the same version of qt-mysql in that repository.

See e.g. http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/testing/11/x86_64/

If you have upgraded F10 with updates-testing enabled, you should
probably enable updates-testing on your F11 installation as well. I
guess it could be considered a preupgrade/anaconda bug that it isn't
done so by default?

(Non-critical updates now end up in the "updates" repository for
Fedora 11, rather than getting pushed to rawhide - and before that
updates-testing)

Best,
  K?re
-- 
K?re Fiedler Christiansen



From reidr at pobox.com  Sun May 24 19:39:56 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:39:56 -0600
Subject: f10 marked packages (was: Volume applet for gnome?)
In-Reply-To: <484d2aac0905241228x41315e02qb4c4b1b687f72149@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>
	<13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20090524182905.GA28043@mail.harddata.com>
	<13142890905241216x6feab8a2r5f2a75a031f73185@mail.gmail.com> 
	<484d2aac0905241228x41315e02qb4c4b1b687f72149@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13142890905241239l1540e2eaibc22e5c638fa0e3c@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 1:28 PM, K?re Fiedler Christiansen
<fedora at kaarefc.dk> wrote:
> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 21:16, Reid Rivenburgh <reidr at pobox.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Is it possible that some of my pre-upgrade rpms (when I was using
>> F10's updates-testing, not rawhide) were newer versions than the F11
>> ones, and therefore they didn't get upgraded? ?That's what these
>> versions seem to suggest. ?I guess I can force install the F11
>> versions now and get things in order?
>
> There's an updates-testing-repository for Fedora 11 as well. You can
> find the same version of qt-mysql in that repository.
>
> See e.g. http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/testing/11/x86_64/
>
> If you have upgraded F10 with updates-testing enabled, you should
> probably enable updates-testing on your F11 installation as well. I
> guess it could be considered a preupgrade/anaconda bug that it isn't
> done so by default?
>
> (Non-critical updates now end up in the "updates" repository for
> Fedora 11, rather than getting pushed to rawhide - and before that
> updates-testing)

I see.  I also just realized that I don't have rawhide enabled.  For
some reason, I thought it would be, and that having rawhide enabled
was a good thing until the post-release update that moves me from
rawhide back to non-rawhide F11 (if I understand that process
correctly).

In any case, enabling rawhide didn't give me any new packages, as you
suggest.  I assumed rawhide was always at least as new (in terms of
version number) as update-testing, and similarly for updates-testing
for updates.  I guess that's not necessarily true around release time.
 I enabled updates-testing, and I do have lots of updates available
now.  So I guess I do want both updates-testing and rawhide enabled?

Thanks for all of the help.  I hope this hasn't been hashed out lots
of times already.  I just re-joined the testing list when I upgraded.

Reid



From smparrish at gmail.com  Sun May 24 20:56:04 2009
From: smparrish at gmail.com (Steven M. Parrish)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 16:56:04 -0400
Subject: Greasemonkey script unified and updated
In-Reply-To: <4A188AF0.6000000@gmail.com>
References: <gva0ve$8ar$1@ger.gmane.org> <4A188AF0.6000000@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905241656.04789.smparrish@gmail.com>

Thanks for the new script.  Now just have to wait for a new GM release to work 
with Firefox 3.5b4

SMParrish



From bruno at wolff.to  Sun May 24 21:24:45 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 16:24:45 -0500
Subject: f10 marked packages (was: Volume applet for gnome?)
In-Reply-To: <13142890905241239l1540e2eaibc22e5c638fa0e3c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>
	<13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090524182905.GA28043@mail.harddata.com>
	<13142890905241216x6feab8a2r5f2a75a031f73185@mail.gmail.com>
	<484d2aac0905241228x41315e02qb4c4b1b687f72149@mail.gmail.com>
	<13142890905241239l1540e2eaibc22e5c638fa0e3c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090524212445.GA14577@wolff.to>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 13:39:56 -0600,
  Reid Rivenburgh <reidr at pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> In any case, enabling rawhide didn't give me any new packages, as you
> suggest.  I assumed rawhide was always at least as new (in terms of
> version number) as update-testing, and similarly for updates-testing
> for updates.  I guess that's not necessarily true around release time.
>  I enabled updates-testing, and I do have lots of updates available
> now.  So I guess I do want both updates-testing and rawhide enabled?

Right now rawhide is what's scheduled for f11 final. f11 updates and
updates-testing are for updates to applied after the f11 release.
Rawhide should switch to f12 sometime next week.



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Sun May 24 21:34:28 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:34:28 +0300
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <13142890905241030i5f87b6ffx1c71a22b762ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>	<13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com>
	<13142890905241030i5f87b6ffx1c71a22b762ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A19BD64.7040708@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> Since I mentioned this, more info....  After upgrading, I couldn't
> even use yum until I manually installed the fc11 version.  Until I did
> a "yum clean", it wasn't updating many packages.  After cleaning, it
> just updated 112 packages, and now my fc10 list is down to 57.
> Getting there!  I should probably reboot since I've changed the system
> quite a bit.
>
> Thanks,
> Reid
>
>   
Last week I had problems with yum trying to pull in the wrong rpms.  
This happened on two machines; one was current with rawhide  (tried to 
pull in some out of date rpms) and the other went through preugrade from 
fc10 to fc11(tried to pull in rpms from rc9). "yum clean all" fixed the 
problems. My current conspiracy theory is that something went wrong in 
switching over from rawhide to fedora/updates.



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sun May 24 21:58:45 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:58:45 +0200
Subject: Release Criteria
References: <4A16D6BF.8010608@yahoo.com> <gv6m8f$rme$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4A191A53.6080703@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <gvcful$etl$6@ger.gmane.org>

John Summerfield wrote:
> Are you sane?
> 
> I the system won't shut down properly, a quick press of the power button
> is likely not to work either.
> 
> Hitting the power button to force a poweroff risks loss of data. It is
> most certainly _not_ fit for release if this is expected.

Back when I was still using Window$ Me, a forced poweroff or reset was
something I had to do several times a week.

        Kevin Kofler



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sun May 24 21:56:07 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:56:07 +0200
Subject: Release Criteria
References: <4A16D6BF.8010608@yahoo.com> <gv6m8f$rme$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4A191A53.6080703@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <gvcfpn$etl$5@ger.gmane.org>

John Summerfield wrote:
> Are there any criteria that said, "Must not harm anyone's computer?"

Stuff which can break your hardware is of course release-critical. That's
just common sense. It also follows from the fact that an update can't
unbreak your hardware once it's broken.

        Kevin Kofler



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sun May 24 22:09:20 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:09:20 +0200
Subject: f10 marked packages (was: Volume applet for gnome?)
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>
	<13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090524182905.GA28043@mail.harddata.com>
	<13142890905241216x6feab8a2r5f2a75a031f73185@mail.gmail.com>
	<484d2aac0905241228x41315e02qb4c4b1b687f72149@mail.gmail.com>
	<13142890905241239l1540e2eaibc22e5c638fa0e3c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gvcgig$kfn$1@ger.gmane.org>

Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> I see.  I also just realized that I don't have rawhide enabled.  For
> some reason, I thought it would be, and that having rawhide enabled
> was a good thing until the post-release update that moves me from
> rawhide back to non-rawhide F11 (if I understand that process
> correctly).

The mirrorlist entry for fedora.repo redirects to Rawhide as long as Rawhide
is F11. There's no need to enable rawhide.repo. (That's also why it didn't
change anything for you.)

        Kevin Kofler



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sun May 24 22:14:46 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:14:46 +0200
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>
	<13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gvcgsn$lj4$1@ger.gmane.org>

Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> qt-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386

That one is from updates-testing, you can get an F11 build in F11
updates-testing.

> krusader-2.0.0-1.fc10.x86_64
> kdeutils-4.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64

F11 builds of those are in the F11 updates. Make sure
your /etc/yum.repos.d/updates.repo is enabled and run "yum update".

        Kevin Kofler



From reidr at pobox.com  Sun May 24 22:49:25 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 16:49:25 -0600
Subject: f10 marked packages (was: Volume applet for gnome?)
In-Reply-To: <gvcgig$kfn$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>
	<13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20090524182905.GA28043@mail.harddata.com>
	<13142890905241216x6feab8a2r5f2a75a031f73185@mail.gmail.com> 
	<484d2aac0905241228x41315e02qb4c4b1b687f72149@mail.gmail.com> 
	<13142890905241239l1540e2eaibc22e5c638fa0e3c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<gvcgig$kfn$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <13142890905241549q11eaff7auf976a2e8a343357f@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at> wrote:
> Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
>> I see. ?I also just realized that I don't have rawhide enabled. ?For
>> some reason, I thought it would be, and that having rawhide enabled
>> was a good thing until the post-release update that moves me from
>> rawhide back to non-rawhide F11 (if I understand that process
>> correctly).
>
> The mirrorlist entry for fedora.repo redirects to Rawhide as long as Rawhide
> is F11. There's no need to enable rawhide.repo. (That's also why it didn't
> change anything for you.)

Thanks for the clarifications, everyone.  I guess the only real
possible glitch in the system was, as someone pointed out, preupgrade
not enabling F11 updates-testing, since I was using F10
updates-testing.

Reid



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun May 24 23:10:46 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 04:40:46 +0530
Subject: f10 marked packages
In-Reply-To: <13142890905241549q11eaff7auf976a2e8a343357f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243172096.16232.45.camel@adam.local.net>	<13142890905241021m35cf4a8aj5392066e55fa9017@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090524182905.GA28043@mail.harddata.com>	<13142890905241216x6feab8a2r5f2a75a031f73185@mail.gmail.com>
	<484d2aac0905241228x41315e02qb4c4b1b687f72149@mail.gmail.com>
	<13142890905241239l1540e2eaibc22e5c638fa0e3c@mail.gmail.com>
	<gvcgig$kfn$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<13142890905241549q11eaff7auf976a2e8a343357f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A19D3F6.2030805@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/25/2009 04:19 AM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:

> 
> Thanks for the clarifications, everyone.  I guess the only real
> possible glitch in the system was, as someone pointed out, preupgrade
> not enabling F11 updates-testing, since I was using F10
> updates-testing.

Seems a sensible enhancement to have. I have filed a request at

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502406

Thanks for bringing it up.

Rahul



From reidr at pobox.com  Mon May 25 02:49:50 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:49:50 -0600
Subject: Dbus changed?
Message-ID: <13142890905241949r6ac4f714s16128b9000aac401@mail.gmail.com>

Another thing that's no longer working after upgrading to F11 is a
perl program I have that detects the screen being locked.  It
basically reads output from this command:

my $cmd = "dbus-monitor --session
\"type='signal',interface='org.gnome.ScreenSaver',member='SessionIdleChanged'\"";

(FYI, I call gdmflexiserver to bring up the gdm login when the
screen's locked.)  It never generates any output when I lock the
screen now.  Has this changed?  I saw something in the release notes
about dbus, but it sounded more like a SElinux thing.

Thanks again,
Reid



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon May 25 03:12:42 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 08:42:42 +0530
Subject: Dbus changed?
In-Reply-To: <13142890905241949r6ac4f714s16128b9000aac401@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905241949r6ac4f714s16128b9000aac401@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A1A0CAA.7030108@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/25/2009 08:19 AM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> Another thing that's no longer working after upgrading to F11 is a
> perl program I have that detects the screen being locked.  It
> basically reads output from this command:
> 
> my $cmd = "dbus-monitor --session
> \"type='signal',interface='org.gnome.ScreenSaver',member='SessionIdleChanged'\"";
> 
> (FYI, I call gdmflexiserver to bring up the gdm login when the
> screen's locked.)  It never generates any output when I lock the
> screen now.  Has this changed?  I saw something in the release notes
> about dbus, but it sounded more like a SElinux thing.

Not sure why that isn't working but the DBus changes have nothing to do
with SELinux. Details at

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DBusPolicy

Rahul



From mcepl at redhat.com  Mon May 25 07:08:42 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 07:08:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Greasemonkey script unified and updated
References: <gva0ve$8ar$1@ger.gmane.org> <4A188AF0.6000000@gmail.com>
	<200905241656.04789.smparrish@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gvdg5q$fda$1@ger.gmane.org>

Steven M. Parrish, Sun, 24 May 2009 16:56:04 -0400:
> Thanks for the new script.  Now just have to wait for a new GM release
> to work with Firefox 3.5b4

Nightly tester tools extension are your friend. :)

Mat?j



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Mon May 25 13:40:33 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 07:40:33 -0600
Subject: Repeated Kernel Oopses (WiFi)
Message-ID: <1243258833.13760.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

This has been rather annoying on my laptop, but I am getting constant
kernel oopses with my WiFi and broadband adapters. This is on a ThinkPad
T400. It usually happens when I connect or disconnect USB devices, which
includes my broadband adapter. A trace from an example happening with my
WiFi adapter is below.

Anyone else having these issues, or is it just me and something I may or
may not have done?

Cheers,

Chris

Kernel failure message 1:
------------[ cut here ]------------
WARNING: at drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwl-sta.c:728
iwl_set_dynamic_key+0x1d9/0x443 [iwlcore]() (Not tainted)
Hardware name: 2765T6U
no space for new kewModules linked in: usb_storage aes_x86_64
aes_generic fuse rfcomm bridge stp llc bnep sco l2cap vmnet ppdev
parport_pc parport vmblock vmci vmmon sunrpc ip6t_REJECT
nf_conntrack_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables ipv6 cpufreq_ondemand
acpi_cpufreq freq_table dm_multipath uinput snd_hda_codec_conexant
snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec arc4 ecb snd_hwdep iwlagn snd_pcm iwlcore
snd_timer firewire_ohci snd firewire_core lib80211 thinkpad_acpi
soundcore btusb mac80211 yenta_socket i2c_i801 hwmon snd_page_alloc
e1000e crc_itu_t iTCO_wdt rsrc_nonstatic wmi pcspkr bluetooth cfg80211
iTCO_vendor_support joydev i915 drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core video output
[last unloaded: microcode]
Pid: 11, comm: events/1 Not tainted 2.6.29.3-155.fc11.x86_64 #1
Call Trace:
 [<ffffffff810489bf>] warn_slowpath+0xbc/0xf0
 [<ffffffff81186570>] ? selinux_d_instantiate+0x1c/0x1e
 [<ffffffff8117f82b>] ? security_d_instantiate+0x24/0x26
 [<ffffffff8117f9eb>] ? security_inode_permission+0x21/0x23
 [<ffffffffa019202a>] iwl_set_dynamic_key+0x1d9/0x443 [iwlcore]
 [<ffffffffa01c7cbd>] iwl_mac_set_key+0x245/0x3a0 [iwlagn]
 [<ffffffff8117160f>] ? debugfs_remove+0x16/0x65
 [<ffffffffa010cd64>] __ieee80211_key_todo+0x156/0x24b [mac80211]
 [<ffffffffa010cf8b>] ? key_todo+0x0/0x10 [mac80211]
 [<ffffffffa010cf7d>] ieee80211_key_todo+0x1a/0x28 [mac80211]
 [<ffffffffa010cf99>] key_todo+0xe/0x10 [mac80211]
 [<ffffffff81058e0a>] run_workqueue+0xa7/0x14a
 [<ffffffff81058f99>] worker_thread+0xec/0xfd
 [<ffffffff8105ca4b>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x39
 [<ffffffff81058ead>] ? worker_thread+0x0/0xfd
 [<ffffffff81058ead>] ? worker_thread+0x0/0xfd
 [<ffffffff8105c6b5>] kthread+0x4d/0x78
 [<ffffffff8101264a>] child_rip+0xa/0x20
 [<ffffffff81011f67>] ? restore_args+0x0/0x30
 [<ffffffff8105c668>] ? kthread+0x0/0x78
 [<ffffffff81012640>] ? child_rip+0x0/0x20
---[ end trace 8824362b81a62bd1 ]---



-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein






From reidr at pobox.com  Mon May 25 14:52:57 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 08:52:57 -0600
Subject: Dbus changed?
In-Reply-To: <4A1A0CAA.7030108@fedoraproject.org>
References: <13142890905241949r6ac4f714s16128b9000aac401@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A1A0CAA.7030108@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <13142890905250752h34c5af18r1ad36bce3ed6d93d@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On 05/25/2009 08:19 AM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
>> Another thing that's no longer working after upgrading to F11 is a
>> perl program I have that detects the screen being locked. ?It
>> basically reads output from this command:
>>
>> my $cmd = "dbus-monitor --session
>> \"type='signal',interface='org.gnome.ScreenSaver',member='SessionIdleChanged'\"";
>>
>> (FYI, I call gdmflexiserver to bring up the gdm login when the
>> screen's locked.) ?It never generates any output when I lock the
>> screen now. ?Has this changed? ?I saw something in the release notes
>> about dbus, but it sounded more like a SElinux thing.
>
> Not sure why that isn't working but the DBus changes have nothing to do
> with SELinux. Details at
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DBusPolicy

Thanks for the pointer.  My mistake about SELinux; I don't use it, but
I guess I think of it when I see "security policy".  And like you,
still not sure why dbus-monitor isn't working....

Reid



From dtimms at iinet.net.au  Mon May 25 15:04:46 2009
From: dtimms at iinet.net.au (David Timms)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 01:04:46 +1000
Subject: Volume applet for gnome - icon layout
In-Reply-To: <13142890905241012k60a31eaar8a6f84c244c394c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<13142890905240858n55c6765cua8751f93aced693@mail.gmail.com>
	<f6ca9fed0905240950q71f52350j45d8363c10a1f4b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<13142890905241012k60a31eaar8a6f84c244c394c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A1AB38E.5020302@iinet.net.au>

On 25/05/09 03:12, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:50 AM, drago01<drago01 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> You should have an icon in the notification area.  (It is no longer an
>> applet but a notification area icon).
>
> You're right, I hadn't even noticed that!  Thanks.  Unfortunately, my
> notification area is on a short panel along the bottom.  I used to
> have the volume applet on a wide panel along the right and was able to
> position it exactly where I wanted, in the upper-right corner.  That
> made it easy to get to.  (Position in the notification area seems a
> bit random.)  Oh well, this is much better than nothing!
There is a bug filed [1] about that, and that bug got pointed to an 
upstream enhancement request [2] for deterministic ordering of 
notification icons. Any takers ?

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483231
[2] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583115

DaveT.



From reidr at pobox.com  Mon May 25 15:12:02 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:12:02 -0600
Subject: Volume applet for gnome - icon layout
In-Reply-To: <4A1AB38E.5020302@iinet.net.au>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A18DD13.2050806@aim.com>
	<1243162606.3687.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<13142890905240858n55c6765cua8751f93aced693@mail.gmail.com> 
	<f6ca9fed0905240950q71f52350j45d8363c10a1f4b5@mail.gmail.com> 
	<13142890905241012k60a31eaar8a6f84c244c394c9@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A1AB38E.5020302@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <13142890905250812n209e88a0mdc9fb23172d107c6@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:04 AM, David Timms <dtimms at iinet.net.au> wrote:
> On 25/05/09 03:12, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
>> You're right, I hadn't even noticed that! ?Thanks. ?Unfortunately, my
>> notification area is on a short panel along the bottom. ?I used to
>> have the volume applet on a wide panel along the right and was able to
>> position it exactly where I wanted, in the upper-right corner. ?That
>> made it easy to get to. ?(Position in the notification area seems a
>> bit random.) ?Oh well, this is much better than nothing!
>
> There is a bug filed [1] about that, and that bug got pointed to an upstream
> enhancement request [2] for deterministic ordering of notification icons.
> Any takers ?
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483231
> [2] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583115

Wow, someone who did exactly what I was doing!  Though, I think that
redhat bug should really be a request to bring back the volume applet
so that it can be placed anywhere.  Requesting it go in the upper
right is too specific.  Being able to reorder notification icons or
ordering them more predictably would be helpful, but in this case I'd
still prefer an applet.  No reason not to have both, right?

Thanks,
Reid



From drago01 at gmail.com  Mon May 25 15:23:14 2009
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 17:23:14 +0200
Subject: Dbus changed?
In-Reply-To: <13142890905241949r6ac4f714s16128b9000aac401@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905241949r6ac4f714s16128b9000aac401@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0905250823n15dc361w92c99df220769d3e@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Reid Rivenburgh <reidr at pobox.com> wrote:
> Another thing that's no longer working after upgrading to F11 is a
> perl program I have that detects the screen being locked. ?It
> basically reads output from this command:
>
> my $cmd = "dbus-monitor --session
> \"type='signal',interface='org.gnome.ScreenSaver',member='SessionIdleChanged'\"";
>
> (FYI, I call gdmflexiserver to bring up the gdm login when the
> screen's locked.) ?It never generates any output when I lock the
> screen now. ?Has this changed? ?I saw something in the release notes
> about dbus, but it sounded more like a SElinux thing.
>

Dbus has not changed, gnome-session does handle the idle state now,
not gnome-screeensaver.



From reidr at pobox.com  Mon May 25 15:38:02 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:38:02 -0600
Subject: Dbus changed?
In-Reply-To: <f6ca9fed0905250823n15dc361w92c99df220769d3e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905241949r6ac4f714s16128b9000aac401@mail.gmail.com> 
	<f6ca9fed0905250823n15dc361w92c99df220769d3e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13142890905250838h333a1c55rbf789a05f58ba05@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:23 AM, drago01 <drago01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Reid Rivenburgh <reidr at pobox.com> wrote:
>> Another thing that's no longer working after upgrading to F11 is a
>> perl program I have that detects the screen being locked. ?It
>> basically reads output from this command:
>>
>> my $cmd = "dbus-monitor --session
>> \"type='signal',interface='org.gnome.ScreenSaver',member='SessionIdleChanged'\"";
>>
>> (FYI, I call gdmflexiserver to bring up the gdm login when the
>> screen's locked.) ?It never generates any output when I lock the
>> screen now. ?Has this changed? ?I saw something in the release notes
>> about dbus, but it sounded more like a SElinux thing.
>>
>
> Dbus has not changed, gnome-session does handle the idle state now,
> not gnome-screeensaver.

That would make sense, but I can't find any documentation related to
it.  If I just replace org.gnome.ScreenSaver in the dbus-monitor
command with org.gnome.Session (or SessionManager) it still doesn't
work.  Can you point me in the right direction...?

Thanks,
Reid



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Mon May 25 15:53:55 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 15:53:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090525 changes
Message-ID: <20090525155355.25BAB1B8003@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Mon May 25 06:15:09 UTC 2009

Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From davidsen at tmr.com  Mon May 25 17:56:34 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 13:56:34 -0400
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A1ADBD2.1050508@tmr.com>

Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> Hi.  I got my F11 preupdate to work; I think maybe an anaconda update
> did the trick.  So now I'm running F11.  I've run into a few issues.
> I used to have an audio volume applet installed in my gnome panel,
> which made it convenient to quickly adjust the volume.    When I first
> logged in under F11, it put up a dialog that said something about that
> applet no longer exisitng.  I don't see an obvious replacement.  Is
> there something else I could use or install?  (I guess I'll ask about
> other issues in other mails as necessary....)
> 
Developer's blog on the subject:
http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/04/27/the-great-mixer-debate-or-where-did-all-my-sliders-go/

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From davidsen at tmr.com  Mon May 25 18:02:40 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:02:40 -0400
Subject: Experiences upgrading omen.com to Rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4A198AB7.9000102@omen.com>
References: <4A198AB7.9000102@omen.com>
Message-ID: <4A1ADD40.7060808@tmr.com>

Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> Rawhide seems to be settling down so I decided
> it was time to try Rawhide on my server which had
> been running Fedora 10 with an older Rawhide kernel.
> 
> Initial installation  and network setup went about as
> well as can be expected given the two networks
> and local installation files.
> 
> At first Apache and crontab just didn't work.  Not seeing
> any relevant error messages, it took a while to identify
> Selinux as the bad actor.  Things worked after disabling
> Selinux.
> 
I hope you will report the bugs, one of the reasons I use Fedora is that it has 
both SELinux and recent versions of things.  Dropping SEL certainly makes it 
less suited to externally visible systems.

> I installed dhcpd with add/remove software.  This version
> doesn't work with the services applet.  Another version
> of dhcpd apparently does work this way.
> 
Another reason it's not ready for production use.

> The advanced volume control app now starts the mixer.
> May I suggest it be called what it is - mixer.
> 
> Previously reported problems with the mixer not being
> able to select CD/AUX remain.  I am trying to isolate a
> problem where the recording gain changes for no
> apparent reason, then changes back some time later.
> 
I'll have to try the advanced volume control, since sound has yet to work for me 
on any machine with fc11.

> Otherwise, with Selinux turned off and a few other tweeks Rawhide
> seems to be stable running omen.com.
> 


-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon May 25 19:06:38 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 12:06:38 -0700
Subject: Experiences upgrading omen.com to Rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4A198AB7.9000102@omen.com>
References: <4A198AB7.9000102@omen.com>
Message-ID: <1243278398.16232.74.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 10:58 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:

> The advanced volume control app now starts the mixer.
> May I suggest it be called what it is - mixer.

It was never called mixer in the menus. It was called 'Volume Control'.
The new 'Volume Control' is the simplified, PA-based one. This is the
old one, which we're providing for fallback purposes for cases which the
new Volume Control no longer properly handles, so 'Advanced Volume
Control' was the best name I could come up with.

Calling it a 'mixer' is problematic for anyone who is unaware of the
fact that, in computer operating systems, the application you use to
change volume levels is often called a 'mixer'. If you don't know this,
the name 'mixer' really doesn't imply that you can use it to set volume
levels.

> Previously reported problems with the mixer not being
> able to select CD/AUX remain.  

Please elaborate. The 'Advanced Volume Control' mixer (command name
gst-mixer) is just the same code that was called gnome-volume-control in
Fedora 10. It should work as it did in F10 and earlier. The new one is
known not yet to be able to do input switching, which is a major reason
we're also providing the old one.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon May 25 19:10:39 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 12:10:39 -0700
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <4A1ADBD2.1050508@tmr.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A1ADBD2.1050508@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <1243278639.16232.75.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 13:56 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> > Hi.  I got my F11 preupdate to work; I think maybe an anaconda update
> > did the trick.  So now I'm running F11.  I've run into a few issues.
> > I used to have an audio volume applet installed in my gnome panel,
> > which made it convenient to quickly adjust the volume.    When I first
> > logged in under F11, it put up a dialog that said something about that
> > applet no longer exisitng.  I don't see an obvious replacement.  Is
> > there something else I could use or install?  (I guess I'll ask about
> > other issues in other mails as necessary....)
> > 
> Developer's blog on the subject:
> http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/04/27/the-great-mixer-debate-or-where-did-all-my-sliders-go/

That's my blog, but I am not a developer (in the sense that I can't hack
for toffee, and also in the sense that I don't work on gnome-media
code :>). All I've done on the issue is package the old mixer for F11
and have it added to the default install. Just for clarity :)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Mon May 25 21:25:31 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 21:25:31 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090525212531.CF99C10F94A@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    childsplay-1.3-1.fc9
    duplicity-0.5.18-1.fc9
    facter-1.5.5-1.fc9
    frescobaldi-0.7.9-1.fc9
    gyachi-1.1.71-3.fc9
    homebank-4.0.3-1.fc9
    kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc9
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-2.fc9
    kernel-2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9
    me-tv-0.8.12-5.fc9
    mumble-1.1.8-13.fc9
    nfoview-1.5-1.fc9
    openssl-0.9.8g-9.14.fc9
    qt-4.5.1-11.fc9
    rednotebook-0.7.1-1.fc9
    squid-3.0.STABLE15-2.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 childsplay-1.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5422)
 Suite of educational games for young children
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Johan Cwiklinski <johan AT x-tnd DOT be> 1.3-1
- 1.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 duplicity-0.5.18-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5427)
 Encrypted bandwidth-efficient backup using rsync algorithm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Added support for RackSpace's CloudFiles, cf+http.  - Added support for Tahoe-
LAFS from the patch, upstream patch #6743: Tahoe backend for duplicity
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6743)  - Only half of this bug is fixed but
it's still useful, upstream bug #21792: pipe call fails with an error OSError:
[Errno 24] Too many open files (https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?21792)  -
Changed from using ulimit external command to resource.getrlimit to check open
files limit.  - Removed one line of code left from some testing that I did that
caused a crash when the target dir was empty and collection-status was
requested.  - Moved from using the df command to get temp space availability to
Python's os.statvfs() call.  Not all df commands work the same way.  - Upstream
patch #6813: Making changelist easy to read
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6813)  - Upstream patch #6814: Ignore
comments in filelists (https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6814)  - Upstream bug
#24825: duplicity warn on insufficient TMPDIR space availability and low max
open file limits pre-backup. (https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?24825)  -
Upstream bug #25594: wrong backup statistics
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25594)  - Upstream bug #25976: Password
requested when not needed. (https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25976)  - Upstream
patch #6806: More graceful handling of old --short-filename files
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6806)  - Added tilde and variable expansion
to the source or target argument that is not a URL.  - FTP backend was failing
on PureFTPd when the "-x ''" option was removed from the second ncftpls popen, a
fix that was implemented due to bug #24741.  This fix does the ls in one pass by
extracting the last entry on the 'ls -l' listing.  - If a file is unreadable due
to access rights or other non-fatal errors, put out error message and continue
rather than dying messily with a traceback.  - Added tilde '~' expansion and
variable expansion in the options that require a filename.  You can now have
this "--archive-dir=~/ArchDir/$SYSNAME" if you need it.  No expansion is applied
to the source or target URL's.  - Fixed problem I caused, again, where
sys.exit() was trapping instead of exiting.  Added big note to not to do that
again.  - After email voting among known duplicity contributors, the decision
was reached to revert to the GPL Version 2 license, so with their consensus,
duplicity is now underGPL Version 2.  - Revert to calling NcFTP utilities (ls,
get, put) directly rather than scripting ncftp via pexpect by reverting to the
0.5.07 version of ftpbackend.py.  - Changed fatal error regarding version 3.2.0
of ncftpput to warning level since it has been reported that the problem does
not occur on most distributions.  - Changed from log.Log with numbered log
levels to log.Debug (9), log.Info (5-8), log.Notice (3-4), log.Warn (1-2),
log.FatalError (0). The -vN option has not changed.  Verbosity may also be one
of: character [ewnid], or word ['error', 'warning', 'notice', 'info', 'debug'].
The default is 4 (Notice).  The options -v4, -vn, and -vnotice are functionally
equivalent, as are the mixed-case versions, -vN, -vNotice, -vNOTICE.  -
Normalized include statements and tried to insure that all duplicity includes
were from the duplicity module.  - Upstream patch #6790: Add --exclude-if-
present https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6790  - Add more error detection to
FTP backend.  - Fix backends so sleep does not occur after last retry.  - Fix so
BackendException does not cause traceback except when verbosity is at level 5 or
higher (Info level).  - Adjust log levels so some errors show up with default
verbosity.  - Fixed bug where an extra comma caused a traceback during a warning
about unnecessary sig files.  Plus fixed print so the real filename would show
up and not a Python object representation.  - Add Changelog.GNU to website and
distribution to add a bit of detail showing the CVS changes via rcs2log.  Added
dist/mkGNUChangelog.sh.  - Upstream bug #22908: Don't block gpg-agent
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?22908)  - To fix the above, --use-agent was
added as a command line option. When this is specified and asymetric encryption
is enabled, then all GnuPG passphrases will come from the gpg-agent or
equivalent program and no passphrase prompt will be issued.  - Upstream bug
#25787: Usernames with escaped @-sign are not handled properly
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25787)  - Upstream bug #25976: Password
requested when not needed (https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25976)  - Upstream
patch #6787: import duplicity.GnuPGInterface explicitly
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6787)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 24 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.5.18-1
- Upgrade to 0.5.18
* Sun May  3 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.5.16-1
- Upgrade to 0.5.16
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.5.15-1
- Upgrade to 0.5.15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 facter-1.5.5-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5342)
 Ruby module for collecting simple facts about a host operating system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This a an upstream maintenance release.  See the upstream announcement for a
detailed list of the bugs fixed:    http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-
announce/msg/852386cee988f09e
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Todd Zullinger <tmz at pobox.com> - 1.5.5-1
- Update to 1.5.5
- Drop upstreamed libperms patch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 frescobaldi-0.7.9-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5330)
 Edit LilyPond sheet music with ease!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Bugfixes:    - spurious crashes seem to have been gone (by using thread locks
on katepart's SmartInterface)  * Editing:    - Alt-Up and Alt-Down now jump to
the first line of a blank block instead of just the next or previous blank line.
* Quick Insert Panel:    - ornaments use the default window text color  * Repeat
last expression:    - remove octave mark from first pitch    - remove barcheck
pipe symbols  * Score Wizard:    - Small fixes to fretted instruments    -
Predefined Guitar Fret option for Chord Names (also in Lead Sheet)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com> - 0.7.9-1
- New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gyachi-1.1.71-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5458)
 A Yahoo! chat client with Webcam and voice support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updated to upstream 1.1.71
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Gregory D Hosler <ghosler at users.sourceforge.net> - 1.1.71.3
- Update from upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498859 - Yahoo Web Cam crashes
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498859
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 homebank-4.0.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5448)
 Free easy personal accounting for all
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Johan Cwiklinski <johan AT x-tnd DOT be> 4.0.3-1
- 4.0.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4866)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-3
- kde4.(sh|csh): drop QT_PLUGINS_PATH munging, kde4-config call (#498809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4866)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- hack around rssnow+qt-4.5.1 bugosity (kde#190651,rhbz#497659)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kernel-2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5383)
 The Linux kernel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to kernel 2.6.27.24:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.27.24    Includes ext4
bug fixes from Fedora 11.    Updates the atl2 network driver to version 2.0.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>  2.6.27.24-78.2.53
- Allow building the F-9 kernel on F-11.
* Wed May 20 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>  2.6.27.24-78.2.52
- ext4 fixes from Fedora 11:
    linux-2.6-ext4-clear-unwritten-flag.patch
    linux-2.6-ext4-fake-delalloc-bno.patch
    linux-2.6-ext4-fix-i_cached_extent-race.patch
    linux-2.6-ext4-prealloc-fixes.patch
* Wed May 20 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.24-78.2.51
- Linux 2.6.27.24
- Dropped patches, merged upstream:
    cifs-fix-unicode-string-area-word-alignment-2.6.27.patch
- Update atl2 driver to version 2.0.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494275 - CVE-2009-1439 kernel: cifs: memory overwrite when saving nativeFileSystem field during mount
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494275
  [ 2 ] Bug #496572 - CVE-2009-1633 kernel: cifs: fix potential buffer overruns when converting unicode strings sent by server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496572
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 me-tv-0.8.12-5.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5381)
 GNOME desktop application for watching digital television
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Me TV is a GNOME desktop application for watching digital television services
that use the DVB standard. Me TV works with DVB-T, DVB-C, DVB-S and ATSC cards
that have kernel driver support. Me TV reads the Electronic Program Guide (EPG)
data that is transmitted over the air to populate a built-in program guide which
can be used for scheduling recordings.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500926 - Review Request: me-tv - GNOME desktop application for watching digital television
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500926
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mumble-1.1.8-13.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5357)
 Voice chat software primarily intended for use while gaming
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Low-latency, high-quality voice communication for gamers. Includes game linking,
so voice from other players comes from the direction of their characters, and
has echo cancellation so the sound from your loudspeakers won't be audible to
other players.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497441 - Review Request: mumble - Voice chat application
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497441
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nfoview-1.5-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5415)
 Viewer for NFO files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Mon May 11 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 1.5-1  -
Update to 1.5  - Fix conditional comparison that caused broken deps in Fedora 9
NFO Viewer is a simple viewer for NFO files, which are "ASCII" art in  the CP437
codepage. The advantages of using NFO Viewer instead of a  text editor are
preset font and encoding settings, automatic window  size and clickable
hyperlinks.   NFO Viewer is a simple viewer for NFO files, which are "ASCII" art
in  the CP437 codepage. The advantages of using NFO Viewer instead of a  text
editor are preset font and encoding settings, automatic window  size and
clickable hyperlinks.   NFO Viewer is a simple viewer for NFO files, which are
"ASCII" art in  the CP437 codepage. The advantages of using NFO Viewer instead
of a  text editor are preset font and encoding settings, automatic window  size
and clickable hyperlinks.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496677 - Review Request: nfoview - Viewer for NFO files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496677
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openssl-0.9.8g-9.14.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5423)
 The OpenSSL toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Security update fixing DoS bugs in DTLS code.  CVE-2009-1377 CVE-2009-1378
CVE-2009-1379
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> 0.9.8g-9.14
- fix CVE-2009-1377 CVE-2009-1378 CVE-2009-1379
  (DTLS DoS problems) (#501253, #501254, #501572)
- support compatibility DTLS mode for CISCO AnyConnect (#464629)
- fix crash when parsing malformed mime headers in the smime app
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501253 - CVE-2009-1377 OpenSSL: DTLS epoch record buffer memory DoS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501253
  [ 2 ] Bug #501254 - CVE-2009-1378 OpenSSL: DTLS fragment handling memory DoS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501254
  [ 3 ] Bug #501572 - CVE-2009-1379 OpenSSL: DTLS pointer use-after-free flaw (DoS)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501572
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qt-4.5.1-11.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-4866)
 Qt toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-11
- qt-copy-patches-20090522
* Wed May 20 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10.2
- full (non-bootstrap) build
* Wed May 20 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10.1
- allow for minimal bootstrap build (*cough* arm *cough*)
* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10
- improved kde4_plugins patch, skip expensive/unneeded canonicalPath
* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-9
- include kde4 plugin path by default (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-8
- fix invalid assumptions about mysql_config --libs (bug #440673)
- fix %files breakage from 4.5.1-5
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-7
- -devel: Provides: qt4-devel%{?_isa} ...
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-6
- drop useless hunk of qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1-enable_ft_lcdfilter.patch
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-5
- -devel: Provides: *-static for libQtUiTools.a
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-4
- qt-doc noarch
- qt-demos, qt-examples (split from -doc)
- (cosmetic) re-order subpkgs in alphabetical order
- drop unused profile.d bits
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-3
- enable FT_LCD_FILTER (uses freetype subpixel filters if available at runtime)
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-2
- apply upstream patch to fix the svg rendering regression
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-1
- 4.5.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rednotebook-0.7.1-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5372)
 A desktop diary
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Wed May 06 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.7.1-1  -
Updated to new upstream version 0.7.1 * Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Sun May 03 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.8-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.8 * Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.7 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.7.1-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.7.1
* Wed May  6 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.9-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 squid-3.0.STABLE15-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5380)
 The Squid proxy caching server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Bug #453304 - Squid requires restart after Network Manager connection setup  -
Upgrade to 3.0.STABLE15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 3.0.STABLE15-2
- Upgrade to 3.0.STABLE15
- Bug #453304 - Squid requires restart after Network Manager connection setup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #453304 - Squid requires restart after Network Manager connection to wireless network
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453304
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Mon May 25 21:25:31 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 21:25:31 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090525212531.DEC5910F94B@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    Cython-0.11.2-1.fc11
    amarok-2.0.96-2.20090518.fc11
    backintime-0.9.24-3.fc11
    backintime-0.9.26-1.fc11
    bzr-1.15-1.fc11
    bzrtools-1.14.0-2.fc11
    childsplay-1.3-1.fc11
    csound-5.10.1-5.fc11
    facter-1.5.5-1.fc11
    freeradius-2.1.6-1.fc11.1
    frescobaldi-0.7.9-1.fc11
    guimup-0.1.4-6.d.fc11
    gyachi-1.1.71-4.fc11
    homebank-4.0.3-1.fc11
    kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc11
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-2.fc11
    kphotoalbum-4.0.1-1.fc11
    lftp-3.7.14-1.fc11
    libguestfs-1.0.30-1.fc11.2
    libvirt-0.6.2-10.fc11
    me-tv-0.8.12-5.fc11
    microcode_ctl-1.17-1.49.fc11
    mingw32-gtk2-2.16.1-2.fc11
    mingw32-pthreads-2.8.0-8.fc11
    mumble-1.1.8-13.fc11
    nfoview-1.5-1.fc11
    openbios-1.0-1.fc11
    openssl-0.9.8k-5.fc11
    perl-App-Nopaste-0.10-2.fc11
    perl-Catalyst-View-Email-0.13-1.fc11
    perl-Class-C3-Adopt-NEXT-0.11-2.fc11
    perl-Class-C3-Componentised-1.0005-1.fc11
    perl-Class-Mix-0.003-1.fc11
    perl-HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath-0.10-1.fc11
    perl-SQL-Abstract-1.55-1.fc11
    perl-YAML-Tiny-1.39-1.fc11
    pidgin-gfire-0.8.1-3.fc11
    qt-4.5.1-11.fc11
    rednotebook-0.7.1-1.fc11
    rpmdevtools-7.2-1.fc11
    squid-3.0.STABLE15-2.fc11
    taglib-extras-0.1.3-1.fc11
    virt-manager-0.7.0-5.fc11
    yum-3.2.23-3.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 Cython-0.11.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5451)
 A language for writing Python extension modules
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

see: http://wiki.cython.org/ReleaseNotes-0.11.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.11.2-1
- Update to 0.11.2
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.11.1-1
- Update to 0.11.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 amarok-2.0.96-2.20090518.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5397)
 Media player
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A preview/test build for the upcoming amarok-2.1 release.  Feedback please.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2.0.96-2.20090518
- 20090518svn snapshot
* Mon May 11 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2.0.96-1
- amarok-2.9.96 (2.1 beta2)
- -utilities -> -utils
* Fri Apr 10 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2.0.90-2
- -collectionscanner -> -utilities
* Fri Apr 10 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2.0.90-1
- amarok-2.0.90 (amarok-2.1 beta1)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499861 - amarok-2.0 center pane rendering regressions with qt-4.5.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499861
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 backintime-0.9.24-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5362)
 Simple backup tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix sumaries; with a typo in changelog :( LP #375113 from .22 to .24
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 17 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-3
- Fix suamries, RHBZ #501085
* Tue May 12 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-2
- LP #375113
* Thu May  7 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501085 - Can't find backintime as a backup application in package managers
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501085
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 backintime-0.9.26-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5349)
 Simple backup tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

new upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.26-1
- New upstream release
- Drop 'removecheck'-patch
* Sun May 17 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-3
- Fix sammries, RHBZ #501085
* Tue May 12 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-2
- fix doc issues, LP #375113
* Thu May  7 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501085 - Can't find backintime as a backup application in package managers
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501085
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bzr-1.15-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5347)
 Friendly distributed version control system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to bzr 1.15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 1.15-1
- Update to 1.15
* Sat May  2 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 1.14.1-1
- Update to 1.14.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bzrtools-1.14.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5347)
 A collection of utilities and plugins for Bazaar-NG
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to bzr 1.15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 1.14.0-2
- Relax dependencies slightly as 1.14.0 works with bzr-1.15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 childsplay-1.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5469)
 Suite of educational games for young children
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Johan Cwiklinski <johan AT x-tnd DOT be> 1.3-1
- 1.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 csound-5.10.1-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5344)
 A sound synthesis language and library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 13 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 5.10.1-5
- Add missing patch to branch
* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 5.10.1-4
- Once more with feeling :-)
* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 5.10.1-3
- Some further spec fixes
* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 5.10.1-2
- Some build fixes. Enable pulseaudio support
* Mon May 11 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 5.10.1-1
- Update to 5.10.1 based massively on dcbw's 5.07 spec from the OLPC-2 cvs branch
  rebase what looks to be relevant pataches from both branches
  add a number of other build fixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 facter-1.5.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5341)
 Ruby module for collecting simple facts about a host operating system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This a an upstream maintenance release.  See the upstream announcement for a
detailed list of the bugs fixed:    http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-
announce/msg/852386cee988f09e
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Todd Zullinger <tmz at pobox.com> - 1.5.5-1
- Update to 1.5.5
- Drop upstreamed libperms patch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 freeradius-2.1.6-1.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-5442)
 High-performance and highly configurable free RADIUS server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

  - update to latest upstream release, from upstream Changelog:      Feature
improvements        * radclient exits with 0 on successful (accept / ack), and 1
otherwise (no response / reject)        * Added support for %%{sql:UPDATE ..},
and insert/delete          Patch from Arran Cudbard-Bell        * Added sample
"do not respond" policy.  See raddb/policy.conf          and raddb/sites-
available/do_not_respond        * Cleanups to Suse spec file from Norbert
Wegener        * New VSAs for Juniper from Bjorn Mork        * Include more RFC
dictionaries in the default install        * More documentation for the WiMAX
module        * Added "chase_referrals" and "rebind" configuration to rlm_ldap.
This helps with Active Directory.  See raddb/modules/ldap        * Don't load
pre/post-proxy if proxying is disabled.        * Added %%{md5:...}, which
returns MD5 hash in hex.        * Added configurable "retry_interval" and
"poll_interval"          for "detail" listeners.        * Added
"delete_mppe_keys" configuration option to rlm_wimax.          Apparently some
WiMAX clients misbehave when they see those keys.        * Added experimental
rlm_ruby from          http://github.com/Antti/freeradius-server/tree/master
* Add Tunnel attributes to ldap.attrmap        * Enable virtual servers to be
reloaded on HUP.  For now, only          the "authorize", "authenticate", etc.
processing sections are          reloaded.  Clients and "listen" sections are
NOT reloaded.        * Updated "radwatch" script to be more robust.  See
scripts/radwatch        * Added certificate compatibility notes in
raddb/certs/README,          for compatibility with different operating systems.
(i.e. Windows)        * Permit multiple "-e" in radmin.        * Add support for
originating CoA-Request and Disconnect-Request.          See raddb/sites-
available/originate-coa.        * Added "lifetime" and "max_queries" to
raddb/sql.conf.          This helps address the problem of hung SQL sockets.
* Allow packets to be injected via radmin.  See "inject help"          in
radmin.        * Answer VMPS reconfirmation request.  Patch from Hermann Lauer.
* Sample logrotate script in scripts/logrotate.freeradius        * Add
configurable poll interval for "detail" listeners        * New "raddebug"
command.  This prints debugging information from          a running server.  See
"man raddebug.        * Add "require_message_authenticator" configuration to
home_server          configuration.  This makes the server add Message-
Authenticator          to all outgoing Access-Request packets.        * Added
smsotp module, as contributed by Siemens.        * Enabled the administration
socket in the default install.          See raddb/sites-available/control-
socket, and "man radmin"        * Handle duplicate clients, such as with
replicated or          load-balanced SQL servers and "readclients = yes"
Bug fixes        * Minor changes to allow building without VQP.        * Minor
fixes from John Center        * Fixed raddebug example        * Don't crash when
deleting attributes via unlang        * Be friendlier to very fast clients
* Updated the "detail" listener so that it only polls once,          and not
many times in a row, leaking memory each time...        * Update comparison for
Packet-Src-IP-Address (etc.) so that          the operators other than '=='
work.        * Did autoconf magic to work around weird libtool bug        * Make
rlm_perl keep tags for tagged attributes in more situations        * Update UID
checking for radmin        * Added "include_length" field for TTLS.  It's needed
for RFC          compliance, but not (apparently) for interoperability.        *
Clean up control sockets when they are closed, so that we don't          leak
memory.        * Define SUN_LEN for systems that don't have it.        * Correct
some boundary conditions in the conditional checker ("if")          in "unlang".
Bug noted by Arran Cudbard-Bell.        * Work around minor building issues in
gmake.  This should only          have affected developers.        * Change how
we manage unprivileged user/group, so that we do not          create control
sockets owned by root.        * Fixed more minor issues found by Coverity.
* Allow raddb/certs/bootstrap to run when there is no "make"          command
installed.        * In radiusd.conf, run_dir depends on the name of the program,
and isn't hard-coded to "..../radiusd"        * Check for EOF in more places in
the "detail" file reader.        * Added Freeswitch dictionary.        * Chop
ethernet frames in VMPS, rather than droppping packets.        * Fix EAP-TLS
bug.  Patch from Arnaud Ebalard        * Don't lose string for regex-compares in
the "users" file.        * Expose more functions in rlm_sql to rlm_sqlippool,
which           helps on systems where RTLD_GLOBAL is off.        * Fix typos in
MySQL schemas for ippools.        * Remove macro that was causing build issues
on some platforms.        * Fixed issues with dead home servers.  Bug noted by
Chris Moules.        * Fixed "access after free" with some dynamic clients.    -
fix packaging bug, some directories missing execute permission
/etc/raddb/dictionary now readable by all.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 John Dennis <jdennis at redhat.com> - 2.1.6-1
- update to latest upstream release, from upstream Changelog:
    Feature improvements
      * radclient exits with 0 on successful (accept / ack), and 1
        otherwise (no response / reject)
      * Added support for %{sql:UPDATE ..}, and insert/delete
        Patch from Arran Cudbard-Bell
      * Added sample "do not respond" policy.  See raddb/policy.conf
        and raddb/sites-available/do_not_respond
      * Cleanups to Suse spec file from Norbert Wegener
      * New VSAs for Juniper from Bjorn Mork
      * Include more RFC dictionaries in the default install
      * More documentation for the WiMAX module
      * Added "chase_referrals" and "rebind" configuration to rlm_ldap.
        This helps with Active Directory.  See raddb/modules/ldap
      * Don't load pre/post-proxy if proxying is disabled.
      * Added %{md5:...}, which returns MD5 hash in hex.
      * Added configurable "retry_interval" and "poll_interval"
        for "detail" listeners.
      * Added "delete_mppe_keys" configuration option to rlm_wimax.
        Apparently some WiMAX clients misbehave when they see those keys.
      * Added experimental rlm_ruby from
        http://github.com/Antti/freeradius-server/tree/master
      * Add Tunnel attributes to ldap.attrmap
      * Enable virtual servers to be reloaded on HUP.  For now, only
        the "authorize", "authenticate", etc. processing sections are
        reloaded.  Clients and "listen" sections are NOT reloaded.
      * Updated "radwatch" script to be more robust.  See scripts/radwatch
      * Added certificate compatibility notes in raddb/certs/README,
        for compatibility with different operating systems. (i.e. Windows)
      * Permit multiple "-e" in radmin.
      * Add support for originating CoA-Request and Disconnect-Request.
        See raddb/sites-available/originate-coa.
      * Added "lifetime" and "max_queries" to raddb/sql.conf.
        This helps address the problem of hung SQL sockets.
      * Allow packets to be injected via radmin.  See "inject help"
        in radmin.
      * Answer VMPS reconfirmation request.  Patch from Hermann Lauer.
      * Sample logrotate script in scripts/logrotate.freeradius
      * Add configurable poll interval for "detail" listeners
      * New "raddebug" command.  This prints debugging information from
        a running server.  See "man raddebug.
      * Add "require_message_authenticator" configuration to home_server
        configuration.  This makes the server add Message-Authenticator
        to all outgoing Access-Request packets.
      * Added smsotp module, as contributed by Siemens.
      * Enabled the administration socket in the default install.
        See raddb/sites-available/control-socket, and "man radmin"
      * Handle duplicate clients, such as with replicated or
        load-balanced SQL servers and "readclients = yes"

    Bug fixes
      * Minor changes to allow building without VQP.
      * Minor fixes from John Center
      * Fixed raddebug example
      * Don't crash when deleting attributes via unlang
      * Be friendlier to very fast clients
      * Updated the "detail" listener so that it only polls once,
        and not many times in a row, leaking memory each time...
      * Update comparison for Packet-Src-IP-Address (etc.) so that
        the operators other than '==' work.
      * Did autoconf magic to work around weird libtool bug
      * Make rlm_perl keep tags for tagged attributes in more situations
      * Update UID checking for radmin
      * Added "include_length" field for TTLS.  It's needed for RFC
        compliance, but not (apparently) for interoperability.
      * Clean up control sockets when they are closed, so that we don't
        leak memory.
      * Define SUN_LEN for systems that don't have it.
      * Correct some boundary conditions in the conditional checker ("if")
        in "unlang".  Bug noted by Arran Cudbard-Bell.
      * Work around minor building issues in gmake.  This should only
        have affected developers.
      * Change how we manage unprivileged user/group, so that we do not
        create control sockets owned by root.
      * Fixed more minor issues found by Coverity.
      * Allow raddb/certs/bootstrap to run when there is no "make"
        command installed.
      * In radiusd.conf, run_dir depends on the name of the program,
        and isn't hard-coded to "..../radiusd"
      * Check for EOF in more places in the "detail" file reader.
      * Added Freeswitch dictionary.
      * Chop ethernet frames in VMPS, rather than droppping packets.
      * Fix EAP-TLS bug.  Patch from Arnaud Ebalard
      * Don't lose string for regex-compares in the "users" file.
      * Expose more functions in rlm_sql to rlm_sqlippool, which 
        helps on systems where RTLD_GLOBAL is off.
      * Fix typos in MySQL schemas for ippools.
      * Remove macro that was causing build issues on some platforms.
      * Fixed issues with dead home servers.  Bug noted by Chris Moules.
      * Fixed "access after free" with some dynamic clients.

- fix packaging bug, some directories missing execute permission
  /etc/raddb/dictionary now readable by all.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 frescobaldi-0.7.9-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5406)
 Edit LilyPond sheet music with ease!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Bugfixes:    - spurious crashes seem to have been gone (by using thread locks
on katepart's SmartInterface)  * Editing:    - Alt-Up and Alt-Down now jump to
the first line of a blank block instead of just the next or previous blank line.
* Quick Insert Panel:    - ornaments use the default window text color  * Repeat
last expression:    - remove octave mark from first pitch    - remove barcheck
pipe symbols  * Score Wizard:    - Small fixes to fretted instruments    -
Predefined Guitar Fret option for Chord Names (also in Lead Sheet)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com> - 0.7.9-1
- New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 guimup-0.1.4-6.d.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5459)
 A GTKmm based drag-&-drop oriented client for MPD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Package required mpd but mpd is not present in the Fedora repositories - fixed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gyachi-1.1.71-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5353)
 A Yahoo! chat client with Webcam and voice support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updated to upstream 1.1.71
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Gregory D Hosler <ghosler at users.sourceforge.net> - 1.1.71.4
- Added file /usr/share/gyachi/voice_servers to payload.
* Thu May 21 2009 Gregory D Hosler <ghosler at users.sourceforge.net> - 1.1.71.3
- Update from upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498859 - Yahoo Web Cam crashes
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498859
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 homebank-4.0.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5376)
 Free easy personal accounting for all
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Johan Cwiklinski <johan AT x-tnd DOT be> 4.0.3-1
- 4.0.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4813)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-3
- kde4.(sh|csh): drop QT_PLUGINS_PATH munging, kde4-config call (#498809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #440673 - qt: makes incorrect assumptions aboug mysql_config --libs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440673
  [ 2 ] Bug #497659 - rssnow applet blank with qt-4.5.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497659
  [ 3 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 4 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
  [ 5 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4813)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- hack around rssnow+qt-4.5.1 bugosity (kde#190651,rhbz#497659)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #440673 - qt: makes incorrect assumptions aboug mysql_config --libs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440673
  [ 2 ] Bug #497659 - rssnow applet blank with qt-4.5.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497659
  [ 3 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 4 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
  [ 5 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kphotoalbum-4.0.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5418)
 KDE Photo Album
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First official release of Kphotoalbum for KDE4, which includes   * many bug
fixes over previous snapshot/pre-release builds.    * handbooks (user docs) are
now included in the package    For more details, see:
http://www.kphotoalbum.org/news.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.0.1-1
- kphotoalbum-4.0.1
* Tue May 19 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.0-1
- kphotoalbum-4.0 (final)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lftp-3.7.14-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5457)
 A sophisticated file transfer program
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The latest upstream version that fixes several bugs.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Jiri Skala <jskala at redhat.com> - 3.7.14-1
- rebase to latest upstream release; among others fixes #474413
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Jiri Skala <jskala at redhat.com> - 3.7.11-3
- release number repaired
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Jiri Skala <jskala at redhat.com> - 3.7.11-1
- rebase to latest upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #474413 - lftp segfaults when trying to "mput -d Something/*"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474413
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libguestfs-1.0.30-1.fc11.2 (FEDORA-2009-5367)
 Access and modify virtual machine disk images
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version 1.0.30 containing multiple bugfixes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.30-1.fc11.2
- Backport version 1.0.30 from devel branch.
- Disable tests on i586 because of RHBZ#502074.
* Thu May 21 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1.fc11.2
- Change requirement from qemu -> qemu-kvm (RHBZ#501761).
* Wed May 20 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1.fc11.1
- Requested that zerofree and febootstrap be moved so we will be able
  to build this.
* Wed May 20 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1
- Backport version 1.0.27 from devel branch.
* Tue May 12 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.25-3
- New upstream version 1.0.25.
- Enable debugging when running the tests.
* Tue May 12 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.24-1
- New upstream version 1.0.24.
- BRs glibc-static for the new command tests.
- Enable tests.
* Mon May 11 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.23-2
- New upstream version 1.0.23.
- Don't try to use updates during build.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libvirt-0.6.2-10.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5441)
 Library providing a simple API virtualization
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 0.6.2-10.fc11
- Don't log monitor output to domain log file (bug #499584)
* Thu May 21 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 0.6.2-9.fc11
- Fix qemu argv detection with latest qemu (bug #501923)
- Fix XML attribute escaping (bug #499791)
- Fix serious event handling issues causing guests to be destroyed (bug #499698)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499584 - info balloon is repeated in qemu log once per second
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499584
  [ 2 ] Bug #501923 - libvirt with latest qemu-kvm error: "Cannot determine QEMU argv syntax /usr/bin/qemu-kvm"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501923
  [ 3 ] Bug #499791 - virt-manager does not escape special characters in ISO file name
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499791
  [ 4 ] Bug #499698 - 'virsh destroy' destroys multiple VMs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499698
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 me-tv-0.8.12-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5369)
 GNOME desktop application for watching digital television
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Me TV is a GNOME desktop application for watching digital television services
that use the DVB standard. Me TV works with DVB-T, DVB-C, DVB-S and ATSC cards
that have kernel driver support. Me TV reads the Electronic Program Guide (EPG)
data that is transmitted over the air to populate a built-in program guide which
can be used for scheduling recordings.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500926 - Review Request: me-tv - GNOME desktop application for watching digital television
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500926
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 microcode_ctl-1.17-1.49.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5428)
 Tool to update x86/x86-64 CPU microcode.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 20090330 firmware
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- update to microcode 20090330
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-gtk2-2.16.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5371)
 MinGW Windows Gtk2 library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to version 2.16.1 - Don't open double browser windows from about
dialogs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Erik van Pienbroek <epienbro at fedoraproject.org> - 2.16.1-2
- don't open double browser windows from about dialogs
  (patch is from the native gtk2 package)
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Erik van Pienbroek <epienbro at fedoraproject.org> - 2.16.1-1
- Update to 2.16.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-pthreads-2.8.0-8.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5391)
 MinGW pthread library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Create a symlink from libpthreadGC2.a to libpthread.a because of BZ #498616
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Erik van Pienbroek <epienbro at fedoraproject.org> - 2.8.0-8
- Create a symlink from libpthreadGC2.a to libpthread.a because of BZ #498616
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498616 - gcc -lpthread is broken
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498616
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mumble-1.1.8-13.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5348)
 Voice chat software primarily intended for use while gaming
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Low-latency, high-quality voice communication for gamers.  Includes game
linking, so voice from other players comes  from the direction of their
characters, and has echo  cancellation so the sound from your loudspeakers
won't be audible to other players.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497441 - Review Request: mumble - Voice chat application
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497441
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nfoview-1.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5430)
 Viewer for NFO files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Mon May 11 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 1.5-1  -
Update to 1.5  - Fix conditional comparison that caused broken deps in Fedora 9
NFO Viewer is a simple viewer for NFO files, which are "ASCII" art in  the CP437
codepage. The advantages of using NFO Viewer instead of a  text editor are
preset font and encoding settings, automatic window  size and clickable
hyperlinks.   NFO Viewer is a simple viewer for NFO files, which are "ASCII" art
in  the CP437 codepage. The advantages of using NFO Viewer instead of a  text
editor are preset font and encoding settings, automatic window  size and
clickable hyperlinks.   NFO Viewer is a simple viewer for NFO files, which are
"ASCII" art in  the CP437 codepage. The advantages of using NFO Viewer instead
of a  text editor are preset font and encoding settings, automatic window  size
and clickable hyperlinks.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496677 - Review Request: nfoview - Viewer for NFO files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496677
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openbios-1.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5394)
 OpenBios implementation of IEEE 1275-1994
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 1.0-1
- Replace previous attempt to fix bug #494075 with fix from Pavel Roskin
- Drop the 0.x.463 numbering; we are using official upstream 1.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494075 - openbios bug causes qemu-system-ppc "invalid/unsupported opcode" failure
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494075
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openssl-0.9.8k-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5452)
 A general purpose cryptography library with TLS implementation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Security update fixing DoS bugs in DTLS code.  CVE-2009-1377 CVE-2009-1378
CVE-2009-1379
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> 0.9.8k-5
- fix CVE-2009-1377 CVE-2009-1378 CVE-2009-1379
  (DTLS DoS problems) (#501253, #501254, #501572)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501253 - CVE-2009-1377 OpenSSL: DTLS epoch record buffer memory DoS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501253
  [ 2 ] Bug #501254 - CVE-2009-1378 OpenSSL: DTLS fragment handling memory DoS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501254
  [ 3 ] Bug #501572 - CVE-2009-1379 OpenSSL: DTLS pointer use-after-free flaw (DoS)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501572
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-App-Nopaste-0.10-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5421)
 Easy access to any pastebin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498147 - Review Request: perl-App-Nopaste - Easy access to any pastebin
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498147
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Catalyst-View-Email-0.13-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5470)
 Send Email from Catalyst
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500283 - Review Request: perl-Catalyst-View-Email - Send Email from Catalyst
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500283
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Class-C3-Adopt-NEXT-0.11-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5431)
 Reduce one's dependency on NEXT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.11-2
- README no longer present
* Sat May 23 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.11-1
- auto-update to 0.11 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.10-1
- auto-update to 0.10 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- altered br on perl(Test::Exception) (0 => 0.27)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Class-C3-Componentised-1.0005-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5440)
 Load mix-ins or components to your C3-based class
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.0005-1
- auto-update to 1.0005 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(FindBin) (version 0)
- altered br on perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) (0 => 6.42)
- altered br on perl(Class::C3) (0 => 0.20)
- added a new br on perl(Carp) (version 0)
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.0004-1
- update to 1.0004
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Class-Mix-0.003-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5363)
 Dynamic class mixing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

bugfix: avoid unreliable "\w" in parsing PREFIX parameter for genpkg()
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath-0.10-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5396)
 Add XPath support to HTML::TreeBuilder
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499102 - Review Request: perl-HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath - Add XPath support to HTML::TreeBuilder
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499102
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-SQL-Abstract-1.55-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5366)
 Generate SQL from Perl data structures
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.55-1
- added SQLATEST_TESTER=1 to force tests
- auto-update to 1.55 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) (version 6.42)
- added a new br on perl(Clone) (version 0.31)
- added a new br on perl(Scalar::Util) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(List::Util) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(Test::Builder) (version 0)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-YAML-Tiny-1.39-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5329)
 Read/Write YAML files with as little code as possible
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.39-1
- auto-update to 1.39 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(File::Spec) (version 0.80)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pidgin-gfire-0.8.1-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5414)
 Xfire plugin for Pidgin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First build of pidgin-gfire for F-11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492583 - Review Request: pidgin-gfire - Xfire plugin for Pidgin
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492583
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qt-4.5.1-11.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-4813)
 Qt toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-11
- qt-copy-patches-20090522
* Wed May 20 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10.2
- full (non-bootstrap) build
* Wed May 20 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10.1
- allow for minimal bootstrap build (*cough* arm *cough*)
* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10
- improved kde4_plugins patch, skip expensive/unneeded canonicalPath
* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-9
- include kde4 plugin path by default (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-8
- fix invalid assumptions about mysql_config --libs (bug #440673)
- fix %files breakage from 4.5.1-5
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-7
- -devel: Provides: qt4-devel%{?_isa} ...
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-6
- drop useless hunk of qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1-enable_ft_lcdfilter.patch
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-5
- -devel: Provides: *-static for libQtUiTools.a
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-4
- qt-doc noarch
- qt-demos, qt-examples (split from -doc)
- (cosmetic) re-order subpkgs in alphabetical order
- drop unused profile.d bits
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-3
- enable FT_LCD_FILTER (uses freetype subpixel filters if available at runtime)
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-2
- apply upstream patch to fix the svg rendering regression
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-1
- 4.5.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #440673 - qt: makes incorrect assumptions aboug mysql_config --libs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440673
  [ 2 ] Bug #497659 - rssnow applet blank with qt-4.5.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497659
  [ 3 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 4 ] Bug #498809 - /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh: call to kde4-config expensive (2-4 seconds)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498809
  [ 5 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rednotebook-0.7.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5460)
 A desktop diary
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Wed May 06 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.7.1-1  -
Updated to new upstream version 0.7.1 * Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Sun May 03 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.8-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.8 * Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.7 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.7.1-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.7.1
* Wed May  6 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.9-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.9
* Sun May  3 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.8-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.8
* Tue Apr 21 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.6.7-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rpmdevtools-7.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5377)
 RPM Development Tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 7.2: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/devel/rpmdevtools/rpmdevtools
.spec?r1=1.16&r2=1.17
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 7.2-1
- Release 7.2.
* Sun May  3 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Add dummy spec template for ad-hoc testing.
* Sat May  2 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Improve newspec/newinit when only "-o foo" argument is given (#498588,
  thanks to Edwin ten Brink).
- Try to get packager mail address for *Emacs rpm-spec-mode from ~/.fedora.cert
  if rpm-spec-user-mail-address is not set.
- Add xz support to rpmdev-extract.
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Make bumpspec's use of "head" POSIX compliant.
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Add rpmdev-newinit for easier access to the init script template, move the
  template to %{_sysconfdir}/rpmdevtools, improve reload action example.
* Tue Apr  7 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Speed up rpmls bash completion.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498588 - rpmdev-newspec -o perl-test.spec falls back to generic template (incl. patch)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498588
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 squid-3.0.STABLE15-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5354)
 The Squid proxy caching server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Bug #453304 - Squid requires restart after Network Manager connection setup  -
Upgrade to 3.0.STABLE15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 3.0.STABLE15-2
- Bug #453304 - Squid requires restart after Network Manager connection setup
* Sat May  9 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> 3.0.STABLE15-1
- Upgrade to 3.0.STABLE15
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Jiri Skala <jskala at redhat.com> - 3.0.STABLE14-3
- fixed ambiguous condition in the init script (exit 4)
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 3.0.STABLE14-2
- Squid bug #2635: assertion failed: HttpHeader.cc:1196: "Headers[id].type == ftInt64"
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 7:3.0.STABLE14-1
- Upgrade to 3.0.STABLE14
* Fri Mar  6 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 7:3.0.STABLE13-2
- backported logfile.cc syslog parameters patch from 3.1 (b9443.patch)
- GCC-4.4 workaround in src/wccp2.cc
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 7:3.0.STABLE13-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #453304 - Squid requires restart after Network Manager connection to wireless network
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453304
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 taglib-extras-0.1.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5359)
 Taglib support for other formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix mp4 file-handing crash (on some mp4 files).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.3-1
- taglib-extras-0.1.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 virt-manager-0.7.0-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5410)
 Virtual Machine Manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 0.7.0-5.fc11
- Fix 'opertaing' typo in 'New VM' dialog (#495128)
- Allow details window to resize again (#491683)
- Handle collecting username for vnc authentication (#499589)
- Actually handle arch config when creating a VM (#499145)
- Log libvirt capabilities at startup to aid debugging (#500337)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491683 - virt-manager no longer auto adjusts to guest screen size
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491683
  [ 2 ] Bug #499589 - virt-manager console widget doesn't know how to collect a 'username' for authentication with VNC
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499589
  [ 3 ] Bug #495128 - "New VM" dialog box misspells "operating" as "opertaing".
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495128
  [ 4 ] Bug #499145 - virt-manager appears to ignore arch selection
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499145
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yum-3.2.23-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5413)
 RPM installer/updater
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes, translation updates,etc     new features:  - downgrade command - you can
now run, in a limited sense, downgrades. It's not guaranteed to depsolve
properly but if you specify the pkgs properly it should download and work.
Useful for reverting a broken upgrade pkg. But don't try reverting a whole
distro update. Chances are LOW that it will work for you.    - yumdb - this is a
separate, simple-text "database" of information about each package that you
install/update. Specifically information like what repo a package was installed
from, why it was installed, etc, etc. More things will be added here as we
progress. Right now, if you install a pkg you can see what repo it came from in
yum info pkgname output.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.23-2
- add patch to close rpmdb completely
* Tue May 19 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.23-1
- 3.2.23
* Mon May 11 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.22-5
- jump up to almost 3.2.23. 
- had to move patch0 around a bit until we rebase to 3.2.23
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501606 - yum 3.2.22-5 breaks livecd-creator/python-imgcreate
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501606
  [ 2 ] Bug #494054 - yum does not work correctly after installing FC11 Alpha
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494054
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Mon May 25 21:25:31 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 21:25:31 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090525212531.E277D10F94C@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    Cython-0.11.2-1.fc10
    amarok-2.0.96-2.20090518.fc10
    backintime-0.9.26-1.fc10
    childsplay-1.3-1.fc10
    coccinelle-0.1.8-1.fc10.3
    crypto-utils-2.4.1-21
    duplicity-0.5.18-1.fc10
    facter-1.5.5-1.fc10
    frescobaldi-0.7.9-1.fc10
    gallery2-2.3-11.fc10
    gettext-0.17-10.fc10
    guimup-0.1.4-6.d.fc10
    gyachi-1.1.71-3.fc10
    homebank-4.0.3-1.fc10
    ibus-chewing-1.0.10.20090523-2.fc10
    kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc10
    kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-2.fc10
    kphotoalbum-4.0.1-1.fc10
    lftp-3.7.14-1.fc10
    lynis-1.2.6-1.fc10
    me-tv-0.8.12-5.fc10
    mumble-1.1.8-13.fc10
    nfoview-1.5-1.fc10
    openssl-0.9.8g-14.fc10
    perl-App-Nopaste-0.10-2.fc10
    perl-Class-C3-Adopt-NEXT-0.11-2.fc10
    perl-Class-C3-Componentised-1.0005-1.fc10
    perl-Class-Mix-0.003-1.fc10
    perl-Clone-0.31-1.fc10
    perl-HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath-0.10-1.fc10
    perl-YAML-Tiny-1.39-1.fc10
    pidgin-gfire-0.8.1-3.fc10
    qt-4.5.1-11.fc10
    rednotebook-0.7.1-1.fc10
    rpmdevtools-7.2-1.fc10
    selinux-policy-3.5.13-61.fc10
    squid-3.0.STABLE15-2.fc10
    taglib-extras-0.1.3-1.fc10
    wxGTK-2.8.10-1.fc10
    yum-3.2.23-3.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 Cython-0.11.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5407)
 A language for writing Python extension modules
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

see: http://wiki.cython.org/ReleaseNotes-0.11.2 see http://trac.cython.org/cytho
n_trac/query?status=closed&order=type&col=id&col=summary&col=type&col=owner&mile
stone=0.11.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.11.2-1
- Update to 0.11.2
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.11.1-1
- Update to 0.11.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 amarok-2.0.96-2.20090518.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5343)
 Media player
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A preview/test build for the upcoming amarok-2.1 release. Feedback please.
Note that this build currently lacks libgpod integration, which is pending on a
libgpod-0.7.0 update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2.0.96-2.20090518
- 20090518svn snapshot
* Mon May 11 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2.0.96-1
- amarok-2.9.96 (2.1 beta2)
- -utilities -> -utils
* Fri Apr 10 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2.0.90-2
- -collectionscanner -> -utilities
* Fri Apr 10 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2.0.90-1
- amarok-2.0.90 (amarok-2.1 beta1)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499861 - amarok-2.0 center pane rendering regressions with qt-4.5.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499861
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 backintime-0.9.26-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5385)
 Simple backup tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

new upstream release LP #375113 from .22 to .24
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.26-1
- New upstream release
- Drop 'removecheck'-patch
* Sun May 17 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-3
- Fix sammries, RHBZ #501085
* Tue May 12 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-2
- fix doc issues, LP #375113
* Thu May  7 2009 Simon Wesp <cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.24-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501085 - Can't find backintime as a backup application in package managers
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501085
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 childsplay-1.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5468)
 Suite of educational games for young children
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Johan Cwiklinski <johan AT x-tnd DOT be> 1.3-1
- 1.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 coccinelle-0.1.8-1.fc10.3 (FEDORA-2009-5368)
 Semantic patching for Linux (spatch)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix for CVE-2009-1753, insecure /tmp file vulnerability.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Richard W.M. Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 0.1.8-1.fc10.3
- New upstream version 0.1.8.
- Include patch from Debian to fix CVE-2009-1753 (RHBZ#502174).
- Segfaults on PPC64, so added to ExcludeArch.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502174 - CVE-2009-1753 Coccinelle: Insecure /tmp file use
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502174
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 crypto-utils-2.4.1-21 (FEDORA-2009-5392)
 SSL certificate and key management utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Elio Maldonado <emaldona at redhat.com> - 2.4.1-20
- certwatch: Fixed cert suffix to be .crt as Apache expects it (#162116)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 duplicity-0.5.18-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5425)
 Encrypted bandwidth-efficient backup using rsync algorithm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Added support for RackSpace's CloudFiles, cf+http.  - Added support for Tahoe-
LAFS from the patch, upstream patch #6743: Tahoe backend for duplicity
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6743)  - Only half of this bug is fixed but
it's still useful, upstream bug #21792: pipe call fails with an error OSError:
[Errno 24] Too many open files (https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?21792)  -
Changed from using ulimit external command to resource.getrlimit to check open
files limit.  - Removed one line of code left from some testing that I did that
caused a crash when the target dir was empty and collection-status was
requested.  - Moved from using the df command to get temp space availability to
Python's os.statvfs() call.  Not all df commands work the same way.  - Upstream
patch #6813: Making changelist easy to read
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6813)  - Upstream patch #6814: Ignore
comments in filelists (https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6814)  - Upstream bug
#24825: duplicity warn on insufficient TMPDIR space availability and low max
open file limits pre-backup. (https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?24825)  -
Upstream bug #25594: wrong backup statistics
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25594)  - Upstream bug #25976: Password
requested when not needed. (https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25976)  - Upstream
patch #6806: More graceful handling of old --short-filename files
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6806)  - Added tilde and variable expansion
to the source or target argument that is not a URL.  - FTP backend was failing
on PureFTPd when the "-x ''" option was removed from the second ncftpls popen, a
fix that was implemented due to bug #24741.  This fix does the ls in one pass by
extracting the last entry on the 'ls -l' listing.  - If a file is unreadable due
to access rights or other non-fatal errors, put out error message and continue
rather than dying messily with a traceback.  - Added tilde '~' expansion and
variable expansion in the options that require a filename.  You can now have
this "--archive-dir=~/ArchDir/$SYSNAME" if you need it.  No expansion is applied
to the source or target URL's.  - Fixed problem I caused, again, where
sys.exit() was trapping instead of exiting.  Added big note to not to do that
again.  - After email voting among known duplicity contributors, the decision
was reached to revert to the GPL Version 2 license, so with their consensus,
duplicity is now underGPL Version 2.  - Revert to calling NcFTP utilities (ls,
get, put) directly rather than scripting ncftp via pexpect by reverting to the
0.5.07 version of ftpbackend.py.  - Changed fatal error regarding version 3.2.0
of ncftpput to warning level since it has been reported that the problem does
not occur on most distributions.  - Changed from log.Log with numbered log
levels to log.Debug (9), log.Info (5-8), log.Notice (3-4), log.Warn (1-2),
log.FatalError (0). The -vN option has not changed.  Verbosity may also be one
of: character [ewnid], or word ['error', 'warning', 'notice', 'info', 'debug'].
The default is 4 (Notice).  The options -v4, -vn, and -vnotice are functionally
equivalent, as are the mixed-case versions, -vN, -vNotice, -vNOTICE.  -
Normalized include statements and tried to insure that all duplicity includes
were from the duplicity module.  - Upstream patch #6790: Add --exclude-if-
present https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6790  - Add more error detection to
FTP backend.  - Fix backends so sleep does not occur after last retry.  - Fix so
BackendException does not cause traceback except when verbosity is at level 5 or
higher (Info level).  - Adjust log levels so some errors show up with default
verbosity.  - Fixed bug where an extra comma caused a traceback during a warning
about unnecessary sig files.  Plus fixed print so the real filename would show
up and not a Python object representation.  - Add Changelog.GNU to website and
distribution to add a bit of detail showing the CVS changes via rcs2log.  Added
dist/mkGNUChangelog.sh.  - Upstream bug #22908: Don't block gpg-agent
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?22908)  - To fix the above, --use-agent was
added as a command line option. When this is specified and asymetric encryption
is enabled, then all GnuPG passphrases will come from the gpg-agent or
equivalent program and no passphrase prompt will be issued.  - Upstream bug
#25787: Usernames with escaped @-sign are not handled properly
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25787)  - Upstream bug #25976: Password
requested when not needed (https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25976)  - Upstream
patch #6787: import duplicity.GnuPGInterface explicitly
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6787)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 24 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.5.18-1
- Upgrade to 0.5.18
* Sun May  3 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.5.16-1
- Upgrade to 0.5.16
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.5.15-1
- Upgrade to 0.5.15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 facter-1.5.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5411)
 Ruby module for collecting simple facts about a host operating system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This a an upstream maintenance release.  See the upstream announcement for a
detailed list of the bugs fixed:    http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-
announce/msg/852386cee988f09e
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Todd Zullinger <tmz at pobox.com> - 1.5.5-1
- Update to 1.5.5
- Drop upstreamed libperms patch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 frescobaldi-0.7.9-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5401)
 Edit LilyPond sheet music with ease!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Bugfixes:    - spurious crashes seem to have been gone (by using thread locks
on katepart's SmartInterface)  * Editing:    - Alt-Up and Alt-Down now jump to
the first line of a blank block instead of just the next or previous blank line.
* Quick Insert Panel:    - ornaments use the default window text color  * Repeat
last expression:    - remove octave mark from first pitch    - remove barcheck
pipe symbols  * Score Wizard:    - Small fixes to fretted instruments    -
Predefined Guitar Fret option for Chord Names (also in Lead Sheet)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com> - 0.7.9-1
- New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gallery2-2.3-11.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5433)
 Customizable photo gallery web site
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes for ecard smtp and captcha issues. Scripting fix, do code or DB changes.
Fix for symlink handling.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-11
- Patch to fix SMTP, 501868.
- Patch to fix captcha, 501871.
* Thu May 14 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-10
- Fine-tuning of symlink script.
* Fri May  1 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-9
- Add rewrite dep for httpauth, BZ 498061.
- Adopt rdieter's symlink handling suggestions from rel-eng #1674.
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-8
- pretrans script logic fix. BZ498019.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501868 - /usr/share/gallery2/lib/smtp/smtp.php breaks ecard
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501868
  [ 2 ] Bug #501871 - Can't Make Comments Because Captcha Triggers Blank Screen Error
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501871
  [ 3 ] Bug #498334 - Missing smarty link or wrong absolute path to smarty class in gallery2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498334
  [ 4 ] Bug #498061 - Can't activate gallery2-httpauth
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498061
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gettext-0.17-10.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5338)
 GNU libraries and utilities for producing multi-lingual messages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

backport of F11 gettext fixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.17-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Feb 12 2009 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 0.17-9
- add buildjava switch to allow turning off the java bits completely
- add buildcheck to allow turning off make check
- drop cvs requires for autopoint (Karl Lattimer, #469555)
- add upstream gettext-xgettext-python-unicode-surrogate-473946.patch by
  Bruno Haible to fix xgettext handling of utf16 surrogates in python (#473946)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #469555 - Gettext-devel depends on CVS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469555
  [ 2 ] Bug #473946 - xgettext misinterprets \x escapes in Python Unicode strings
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473946
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 guimup-0.1.4-6.d.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5355)
 A GTKmm based drag-&-drop oriented client for MPD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Package required mpd but mpd is not present in the Fedora repositories - fixed
First F10 import for guimup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gyachi-1.1.71-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5461)
 A Yahoo! chat client with Webcam and voice support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to upstream 1.1.71
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Gregory D Hosler <ghosler at users.sourceforge.net> - 1.1.71.3
- Update from upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498859 - Yahoo Web Cam crashes
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498859
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 homebank-4.0.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5443)
 Free easy personal accounting for all
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Johan Cwiklinski <johan AT x-tnd DOT be> 4.0.3-1
- 4.0.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-chewing-1.0.10.20090523-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5416)
 The Chewing engine for IBus input platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Applied Lubomir Rintel's patch  - Now the 1st down key brings the longest
possible phrases.    The 2nd down key brings the 2nd longest possible phrases
from the back, unlike the previous versions where the cursor stays in the head
of longest phrase.  - Add force lowercase in English mode option.  - Fix double
free issue when destroy ibus-chewing.  - Hide ibus-chewing-panel when ibus-
chewing is focus-out   - Fix IBus google code issue 369:    Now commit is forced
when switch of ibus-chewing or current application loses focus.  - New ibus-
chewing.png is contribute by WM.  - input-keyboard.png is no longer needed and
removed.  - ibus-engine-chewing -v option now need an integer as verbose level.
- ibus-chewing.schemas is now generated.  - Fix some CMake modules bugs.   ibus-
chewing-1.0.8 provides plainZhuyin support and fix some minor bug of
next_version targets.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.10.20090523-2
- Add back the export GCONF_CONFIG_SOURCE=`gconftool-2 --get-default-source`
* Fri May 22 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.10.20090523-1
- Applied Lubomir Rintel's patch
* Fri May 22 2009 - Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.10.20090522-1
- Now the 1st down key brings the longest possible phrases.
  The 2nd down key brings the 2nd longest possible phrases from the back,
  unlike the previous versions where the cursor stays in the head of longest phrase.
- Add force lowercase in English mode option.
- Fix double free issue when destroy ibus-chewing.
- Hide ibus-chewing-panel when ibus-chewing is focus-out
* Mon May 11 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.9.20090508-1
Now commit is forced when switch of ibus-chewing or current application loses focus.
- New ibus-chewing.png is contribute by WM.
- input-keyboard.png is no longer needed and removed.
- ibus-engine-chewing -v option now need an integer as verbose level.
- ibus-chewing.schemas is now generated.
- Fix some CMake modules bugs.
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.8.20090428-1
Fix the errors which Funda Wang as pointing out:
- Move src/chewing.xml.in to data/
- Fixed some typo in next_version targets.
- Remove GConf2 package requirement, while add gconftool-2 requirement.
* Mon Mar 30 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.5.20090330-1
- Added tooltips.
- Revealed the sync caps lock setting.
- Fixed Right key bug.
- Added CMake policy 0011 as OLD.
* Mon Mar 23 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.4.20090323-2
- Fix koji build issues.
* Mon Mar 23 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.4.20090323-1
- Various Settings are now in dialog.
- Integer settings are now revealed.
- MakerDialog.gob is now available.
- Work around of easy symbol input.
- Fix iBus Google issue 310.
* Sun Mar 22 2009 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> - 1.0.3.20090311-2
- Properly reinstall the schema when updating from 1.0.2.20090303-1 or older
* Wed Mar 11 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.3.20090311-1
- IBus Google issue 305:  ibus-chewing.schema -> ibus-chewing.schemas
- IBus Google issue 307:  hardcoded chewing datadir
    - Sync chewing candPerPage and IBusTable->page_size
- Sync between IM and keyboard (Experimental)
    - ibus-chewing.schema -> ibus-chewing.schemas
* Tue Mar  3 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.2.20090303-1
- Required gconf2 -> GConf2.
- Fix RPM install issues.
* Fri Feb 27 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.1.20090227-1
- Setting shows/hides KBType, selKeys, and various settings.
- Add gconf schema.
- Fix some memory leaking checked.
- Move some function to cmake_modules.
- Fix Google code issue 281
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.1.20081023-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Feb 18 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.0.20090220-1
- First working version for IBus C
* Wed Jan 28 2009 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> - 1.0.0.20090128-1
- Fix the binding with libchewing 0.3.2.
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081023-2
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4844)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-3
- kde4.(sh|csh): drop QT_PLUGINS_PATH munging, kde4-config call (#498809)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 2 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4844)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.3-2
- hack around rssnow+qt-4.5.1 bugosity (kde#190651,rhbz#497659)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 2 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kphotoalbum-4.0.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5454)
 KDE Photo Album
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First official release of Kphotoalbum for KDE4, which includes   * many bug
fixes over previous snapshot/pre-release builds.    * handbooks (user docs) are
now included in the package    For more details, see:
http://www.kphotoalbum.org/news.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.0.1-1
- kphotoalbum-4.0.1
* Tue May 19 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.0-1
- kphotoalbum-4.0 (final)
* Mon Mar  9 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> -  3.2-0.10.20090308
- kphotoalbum-20090308 snapshot
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 3.2-0.9.20090211svn
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Feb 12 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2-0.8.20090211svn
- kphotoalbum-2009-02-11 snapshot
- enable marble integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lftp-3.7.14-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5331)
 A sophisticated file transfer program
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The latest upstream version that fixes several bugs.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Jiri Skala <jskala at redhat.com> - 3.7.14-1
- rebase to latest upstream release; among others fixes #474413
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Jiri Skala <jskala at redhat.com> - 3.7.11-1
- update to latest upstream version
* Wed Jan 21 2009 Jiri Skala <jskala at redhat.com> - 3.7.7-1
- re-base to latest upstream
- fixed license conflict (GPL2 -> GPLv3+) due to new gnulib
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #474413 - lftp segfaults when trying to "mput -d Something/*"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474413
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lynis-1.2.6-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5408)
 Security and system auditing tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upon using the tool for auditing using options:  lynis -c -q -Q      It used to
fail with passwd command  passwd: bad argument --all: unknown option
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Apr 12 2009 Rakesh Pandit <rakesh at fedoraporject.org> - 1.2.6-1
- Updated to 1.2.6: CHANHELOG for details
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.2.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491454 - lynis uses bad passwd option
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491454
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 me-tv-0.8.12-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5361)
 GNOME desktop application for watching digital television
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Me TV is a GNOME desktop application for watching digital television services
that use the DVB standard. Me TV works with DVB-T, DVB-C, DVB-S and ATSC cards
that have kernel driver support. Me TV reads the Electronic Program Guide (EPG)
data that is transmitted over the air to populate a built-in program guide which
can be used for scheduling recordings.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500926 - Review Request: me-tv - GNOME desktop application for watching digital television
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500926
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mumble-1.1.8-13.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5393)
 Voice chat software primarily intended for use while gaming
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Low-latency, high-quality voice communication for gamers.  Includes game
linking, so voice from other players comes  from the direction of their
characters, and has echo  cancellation so the sound from your loudspeakers
won't be audible to other players.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497441 - Review Request: mumble - Voice chat application
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497441
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nfoview-1.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5373)
 Viewer for NFO files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Mon May 11 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 1.5-1  -
Update to 1.5  - Fix conditional comparison that caused broken deps in Fedora 9
NFO Viewer is a simple viewer for NFO files, which are "ASCII" art in  the CP437
codepage. The advantages of using NFO Viewer instead of a  text editor are
preset font and encoding settings, automatic window  size and clickable
hyperlinks.   NFO Viewer is a simple viewer for NFO files, which are "ASCII" art
in  the CP437 codepage. The advantages of using NFO Viewer instead of a  text
editor are preset font and encoding settings, automatic window  size and
clickable hyperlinks.   NFO Viewer is a simple viewer for NFO files, which are
"ASCII" art in  the CP437 codepage. The advantages of using NFO Viewer instead
of a  text editor are preset font and encoding settings, automatic window  size
and clickable hyperlinks.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496677 - Review Request: nfoview - Viewer for NFO files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496677
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openssl-0.9.8g-14.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5412)
 The OpenSSL toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Security update fixing DoS bugs in DTLS code.  CVE-2009-1377 CVE-2009-1378
CVE-2009-1379
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> 0.9.8g-14
- fix CVE-2009-1377 CVE-2009-1378 CVE-2009-1379
  (DTLS DoS problems) (#501253, #501254, #501572)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501253 - CVE-2009-1377 OpenSSL: DTLS epoch record buffer memory DoS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501253
  [ 2 ] Bug #501254 - CVE-2009-1378 OpenSSL: DTLS fragment handling memory DoS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501254
  [ 3 ] Bug #501572 - CVE-2009-1379 OpenSSL: DTLS pointer use-after-free flaw (DoS)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501572
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-App-Nopaste-0.10-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5420)
 Easy access to any pastebin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498147 - Review Request: perl-App-Nopaste - Easy access to any pastebin
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498147
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Class-C3-Adopt-NEXT-0.11-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5472)
 Reduce one's dependency on NEXT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.11-2
- README no longer present
* Sat May 23 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.11-1
- auto-update to 0.11 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.10-1
- auto-update to 0.10 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- altered br on perl(Test::Exception) (0 => 0.27)
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.07-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Class-C3-Componentised-1.0005-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5445)
 Load mix-ins or components to your C3-based class
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.0005-1
- auto-update to 1.0005 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(FindBin) (version 0)
- altered br on perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) (0 => 6.42)
- altered br on perl(Class::C3) (0 => 0.20)
- added a new br on perl(Carp) (version 0)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Class-Mix-0.003-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5417)
 Dynamic class mixing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

bugfix: avoid unreliable "\w" in parsing PREFIX parameter for genpkg()
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Clone-0.31-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5474)
 Recursively copy perl datatypes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Mar 13 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.31-1
- update to 0.31
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.28-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath-0.10-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5365)
 Add XPath support to HTML::TreeBuilder
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499102 - Review Request: perl-HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath - Add XPath support to HTML::TreeBuilder
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499102
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-YAML-Tiny-1.39-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5387)
 Read/Write YAML files with as little code as possible
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.39-1
- auto-update to 1.39 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(File::Spec) (version 0.80)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pidgin-gfire-0.8.1-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5351)
 Xfire plugin for Pidgin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First build for pidgin-gfire
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492583 - Review Request: pidgin-gfire - Xfire plugin for Pidgin
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492583
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qt-4.5.1-11.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-4844)
 Qt toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.1 is a bug-fix release, and includes significant improvements in font
rendering quality and performance.    See also:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/updates-to-qt-qt-creator-released
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-11
- qt-copy-patches-20090522
* Wed May 20 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10.2
- full (non-bootstrap) build
* Wed May 20 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10.1
- allow for minimal bootstrap build (*cough* arm *cough*)
* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-10
- improved kde4_plugins patch, skip expensive/unneeded canonicalPath
* Wed May  6 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-9
- include kde4 plugin path by default (#498809)
* Mon May  4 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-8
- fix invalid assumptions about mysql_config --libs (bug #440673)
- fix %files breakage from 4.5.1-5
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-7
- -devel: Provides: qt4-devel%{?_isa} ...
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-6
- drop useless hunk of qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1-enable_ft_lcdfilter.patch
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-5
- -devel: Provides: *-static for libQtUiTools.a
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-4
- qt-doc noarch
- qt-demos, qt-examples (split from -doc)
- (cosmetic) re-order subpkgs in alphabetical order
- drop unused profile.d bits
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 4.5.1-3
- enable FT_LCD_FILTER (uses freetype subpixel filters if available at runtime)
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-2
- apply upstream patch to fix the svg rendering regression
* Thu Apr 23 2009 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> - 4.5.1-1
- 4.5.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498215 - Can't enter text in texmaker after update to Qt 4.5.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498215
  [ 2 ] Bug #499331 - update to qt-4.5.0 broke pasting in Jabbim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499331
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rednotebook-0.7.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5388)
 A desktop diary
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Wed May 06 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.7.1-1  -
Updated to new upstream version 0.7.1 * Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Sun May 03 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.8-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.8 * Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.7 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Wed Apr 22 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.7-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.7 * Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter
<fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated to new upstream version 0.6.5 *
Sun Apr 05 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.5-1  - Updated
to new upstream version 0.6.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May  6 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.7.1-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.7.1
* Wed May  6 2009 Fabian Affolter <fabian at bernewireless.net> - 0.6.9-1
- Updated to new upstream version 0.6.9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rpmdevtools-7.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5334)
 RPM Development Tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 7.2: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/devel/rpmdevtools/rpmdevtools
.spec?r1=1.16&r2=1.17
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 7.2-1
- Release 7.2.
* Sun May  3 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Add dummy spec template for ad-hoc testing.
* Sat May  2 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Improve newspec/newinit when only "-o foo" argument is given (#498588,
  thanks to Edwin ten Brink).
- Try to get packager mail address for *Emacs rpm-spec-mode from ~/.fedora.cert
  if rpm-spec-user-mail-address is not set.
- Add xz support to rpmdev-extract.
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Make bumpspec's use of "head" POSIX compliant.
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Add rpmdev-newinit for easier access to the init script template, move the
  template to %{_sysconfdir}/rpmdevtools, improve reload action example.
* Tue Apr  7 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Speed up rpmls bash completion.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498588 - rpmdev-newspec -o perl-test.spec falls back to generic template (incl. patch)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498588
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 selinux-policy-3.5.13-61.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5456)
 SELinux policy configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Allow hald to gettattr on all files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Miroslav Grepl <mgrepl at redhat.com> 3.5.13-61
- Allow hald to gettattr on all files
* Fri May 15 2009 Miroslav Grepl <mgrepl at redhat.com> 3.5.13-60
- Fixes for kpropd
- Add /usr/share/selinux/packages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 squid-3.0.STABLE15-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5464)
 The Squid proxy caching server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Bug #453304 - Squid requires restart after Network Manager connection setup  -
Upgrade to 3.0.STABLE15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 3.0.STABLE15-2
- Upgrade to 3.0.STABLE15
- Bug #453304 - Squid requires restart after Network Manager connection setup
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 7:3.0.STABLE14-1
- upgrade to latest upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #453304 - Squid requires restart after Network Manager connection to wireless network
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453304
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 taglib-extras-0.1.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5463)
 Taglib support for other formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix mp4 file-handing crash (on some mp4 files).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May  2 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.3-1
- taglib-extras-0.1.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wxGTK-2.8.10-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5370)
 GTK2 port of the wxWidgets GUI library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to 2.8.10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Dan Horak <dan[at]danny.cz> - 2.8.10-1
- update to 2.8.10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yum-3.2.23-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5328)
 RPM installer/updater
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes, translation updates, etc  new features:  - downgrade command - you can
now run (in a limited sense) downgrades. It's not guaranteed to depsolve
properly but if you specify the pkgs properly it should download and work.
Useful for reverting a broken upgrade pkg. But don't try reverting a whole
distro update. Chances are LOW that it will work for you.    - yumdb - this is a
separate, simple-text "database" of information about each package that you
install/update. Specifically information like what repo a package was installed
from, why it was installed, etc, etc. More things will be added here as we
progress. Right now, if you install a pkg you can see what repo it came from in
yum info pkgname output.       - translation updates  - more unicode fixes  -
more skipbroken fixes  - yumdb support          - fixes for a number of the
pylint errors reported   - fixes for the pylint fixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.23-2
- add patch to close rpmdb completely
* Tue May 19 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.23-1
- 3.2.23
* Mon May 11 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.22-5
- jump up to almost 3.2.23. 
- had to move patch0 around a bit until we rebase to 3.2.23
- remove python 2.6ism for stdout
* Thu Apr  9 2009 James Antill <james at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.22-4
- fix typo for yum-complete-transaction message.
* Wed Apr  8 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.22-3
- fix for file:// urls which makes things in pungi/mash work
* Tue Apr  7 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.22-2
- yum-HEAD minus the yumdb patches
* Tue Mar 24 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.22-1
- 3.2.22 - 3 patches beyond 3.2.21-16
* Mon Mar 16 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-16
- fix for 490490
* Fri Mar 13 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-15
- update to upstream git to fix conditionals problem on anaconda installs
* Thu Mar 12 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-14
- latest HEAD
* Tue Mar 10 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-13
- f11beta build
* Wed Mar  4 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-12
- second verse, same as the first
* Fri Feb 27 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-10
- merge up a lot of fixes from latest HEAD
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Feb 10 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-9
- merge up to latest yum head - sort of a pre 3.2.22
* Wed Feb  4 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-8
- fix for YumHeaderPackages so it plays nicely w/createrepo and mergerepo, etc
* Thu Jan 29 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-7
- update HEAD patch to fix repodiff (and EVR comparisons in certain cases)
* Tue Jan 27 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-6
- patch to keep anaconda (and other callers) happy
- remove old 6hr patch which is now upstream
* Mon Jan 26 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-4
- patch to latest HEAD to test a number of fixes for alpha
* Tue Jan 20 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.21-3
- add a small patch to make things play a bit nicer with the logging module
  in 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501606 - yum 3.2.22-5 breaks livecd-creator/python-imgcreate
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501606
  [ 2 ] Bug #494054 - yum does not work correctly after installing FC11 Alpha
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494054
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Mon May 25 22:05:05 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 18:05:05 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-05-26
Message-ID: <4A1B1611.8040301@gmail.com>

Bug Triage Meeting
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
Tuesday @ 15:00 UTC/11 AM EST

Agenda for 2009-05-26
minutes form the last meeting: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-19

If there is anything you think should be added to the meeting agenda, 
please use 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers:meeting-agenda-list, or 
contact Adam Williamson or myself.

* Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/ - 
Update on the progress of the metrics. I feel like I am nagging, but 
this important for both QA and the BugZappers.

* Severity/priority - 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend - Discussion, 
implementation and moving forward.

*Open Floor - Your topic here.


New members of the BugZappers, our weekly Triage Day is right after the 
meeting. This is a good time for you to meet your fellow team members, 
and get answers to any questions you have or help with anything.

See you Tomorrow.
Edward (TK009)



From michal at harddata.com  Mon May 25 22:30:07 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 16:30:07 -0600
Subject: Repeated Kernel Oopses (WiFi)
In-Reply-To: <1243258833.13760.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1243258833.13760.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090525223007.GA18303@mail.harddata.com>

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 07:40:33AM -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> This has been rather annoying on my laptop, but I am getting constant
> kernel oopses with my WiFi and broadband adapters.
....
> WARNING: at drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwl-sta.c:728
> iwl_set_dynamic_key+0x1d9/0x443 [iwlcore]() (Not tainted)
.....

What you posted is a WARNING and not an oops.  Are you getting the
later as well?  Did you check bugzilla?

   Michal



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Mon May 25 23:21:07 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 17:21:07 -0600
Subject: Repeated Kernel Oopses (WiFi)
In-Reply-To: <20090525223007.GA18303@mail.harddata.com>
References: <1243258833.13760.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090525223007.GA18303@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <1243293667.4104.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 16:30 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 07:40:33AM -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > This has been rather annoying on my laptop, but I am getting constant
> > kernel oopses with my WiFi and broadband adapters.
> ....
> > WARNING: at drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwl-sta.c:728
> > iwl_set_dynamic_key+0x1d9/0x443 [iwlcore]() (Not tainted)
> .....
> 
> What you posted is a WARNING and not an oops.  Are you getting the
> later as well?  Did you check bugzilla?

It's reporting as a kernel oops, and I had absolutely no idea what to
search BZ for on this one.

However, I did search on the string you gave just now and found BZ
number 490454. It applies to 32-bit F10 though and I'm running 64-bit
F11 Preview. Other than that, the issue is the same..

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490454

I added that it is happening to me on F11. I don't think this should be
a low priority bug either.


--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From davidsen at tmr.com  Tue May 26 00:29:32 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 20:29:32 -0400
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <1243278639.16232.75.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>	<4A1ADBD2.1050508@tmr.com>
	<1243278639.16232.75.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A1B37EC.9040108@tmr.com>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 13:56 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
>>> Hi.  I got my F11 preupdate to work; I think maybe an anaconda update
>>> did the trick.  So now I'm running F11.  I've run into a few issues.
>>> I used to have an audio volume applet installed in my gnome panel,
>>> which made it convenient to quickly adjust the volume.    When I first
>>> logged in under F11, it put up a dialog that said something about that
>>> applet no longer exisitng.  I don't see an obvious replacement.  Is
>>> there something else I could use or install?  (I guess I'll ask about
>>> other issues in other mails as necessary....)
>>>
>> Developer's blog on the subject:
>> http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/04/27/the-great-mixer-debate-or-where-did-all-my-sliders-go/
> 
> That's my blog, but I am not a developer (in the sense that I can't hack
> for toffee, and also in the sense that I don't work on gnome-media
> code :>). All I've done on the issue is package the old mixer for F11
> and have it added to the default install. Just for clarity :)

And for that I think you, as probably all the people who have sound which 
doesn't work. The live snapshot has never produced a sound for me on any 
machine, real or virtual, including all the ones I use for fc10 (with sound).

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 26 05:44:27 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:44:27 -0700
Subject: Volume applet for gnome?
In-Reply-To: <4A1B37EC.9040108@tmr.com>
References: <13142890905232150x429c1a24lb9a5270271eee91a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A1ADBD2.1050508@tmr.com> <1243278639.16232.75.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A1B37EC.9040108@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <1243316667.16232.80.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 20:29 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:

> And for that I think you, as probably all the people who have sound which 
> doesn't work. The live snapshot has never produced a sound for me on any 
> machine, real or virtual, including all the ones I use for fc10 (with sound).

If it's a problem which you can solve by running an old-style mixer and
increasing the level of a certain channel, please file a bug on this
according to the instructions at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497966#c1 , if you didn't
already. Thanks :)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From hughsient at gmail.com  Tue May 26 07:53:28 2009
From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 08:53:28 +0100
Subject: Dbus changed?
In-Reply-To: <13142890905250838h333a1c55rbf789a05f58ba05@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905241949r6ac4f714s16128b9000aac401@mail.gmail.com>
	<f6ca9fed0905250823n15dc361w92c99df220769d3e@mail.gmail.com>
	<13142890905250838h333a1c55rbf789a05f58ba05@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <15e53e180905260053x4b244e01rac34592d67daeb48@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Reid Rivenburgh <reidr at pobox.com> wrote:
> That would make sense, but I can't find any documentation related to
> it. ?If I just replace org.gnome.ScreenSaver in the dbus-monitor
> command with org.gnome.Session (or SessionManager) it still doesn't
> work. ?Can you point me in the right direction...?

http://www.gnome.org/~mccann/gnome-session/docs/gnome-session.html

Richard.



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 26 07:57:56 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 07:57:56 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090526075757.058B410F898@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    arora-0.7.0-1.fc9
    php-IDNA_Convert-0.6.3-2.fc9
    php-simplepie-1.1.3-2.fc9
    xorg-x11-server-1.5.2-7.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 arora-0.7.0-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5505)
 A cross platform web browser
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.7.0    Most visible changes:  - Add support for OpenSearch to the
toolbar search  - Add the ability to click a button before loading flash
(clickToFlash)  - Allow to enable/disable the cache  - Revert the check for the
Oxygen style so when under KDE4 Oxygen will be used even if it has issues.
Full Changelog: http://arorabrowser.blogspot.com/2009/05/arora-070.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> - 0.7.0-1
- Update to 0.7.0
- Googlesuggest removed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #495138 - Arora 0.6 doesn't follow system's Qt style.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495138
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-IDNA_Convert-0.6.3-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5497)
 Provides conversion of internationalized strings to UTF8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-simplepie-1.1.3-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5493)
 Simple RSS Library in PHP
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xorg-x11-server-1.5.2-7.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5490)
 X.Org X11 X server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix crash due to uninitialized VModMap fields.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.5.2-7
- xserver-1.6.1-xkbsendmap.patch: Fix crash due to uninitialized VModMap
  fields (#456376).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #456376 - xorg crashes - BOGUS LENGTH in write keyboard desc
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456376
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 26 07:57:56 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 07:57:56 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090526075757.89CE510F897@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    arora-0.7.0-1.fc10
    geany-0.17-1.fc10
    lxde-common-0.4.1-1.fc10
    perl-Catalyst-Plugin-I18N-0.09-2.fc10
    perl-MIME-Types-1.27-1.fc10
    php-IDNA_Convert-0.6.3-2.fc10
    php-simplepie-1.1.3-3.fc10
    postal-0.70-4.fc10
    rpmdevtools-7.3-1.fc10
    sblim-cmpi-base-1.5.7-3.fc10
    xorg-x11-server-1.5.3-17.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 arora-0.7.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5476)
 A cross platform web browser
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.7.0    Most visible changes:  - Add support for OpenSearch to the
toolbar search  - Add the ability to click a button before loading flash
(clickToFlash)  - Allow to enable/disable the cache  - Revert the check for the
Oxygen style so when under KDE4 Oxygen will be used even if it has issues.
Full Changelog: http://arorabrowser.blogspot.com/2009/05/arora-070.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> - 0.7.0-1
- Update to 0.7.0
- Googlesuggest removed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #495138 - Arora 0.6 doesn't follow system's Qt style.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495138
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 geany-0.17-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5501)
 A fast and lightweight IDE using GTK2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

There are the release not for Geany 0.17 :
------------------------------------------        Bug fixes:      * Fix broken
selection of "Document->Set Encoding" menu items.      * Fix broken non-
incremental search with the toolbar search entry when        pressing Enter
(closes #2638180).      * Fix parsing of Make output (closes #2694479, patch by
Andrea Mazzoleni).      * Fix crashes on quitting Geany (closes #2533990).
* Fix disabled Go to Tag items in the editor menu when using the        keyboard
(#2780044).      * Prevent crashes when two or more top level items in the
symbol        list have the same name (closes #2778246).        Prefs:      *
Add an option to set an additional plugin lookup path.      * Add a hidden
preference 'use_safe_file_saving'. This has serious side        effects, please
read the documentation before enabling this.        Interface:      * Add 'Send
Selection to Terminal' command to the Edit->Format menu.      * Change the
background colour of the search entries in the Find        and Replace dialogs
according to the search results.      * Add 'Close Other Documents' and 'Close
All' menu items to the tab bar        menu.      * Add an option to allow
appending the toolbar to the main menu bar        to save some vertical space.
* When a project is loaded, replace the project base path with the
project name in the Documents sidebar for parent items (closes #2723679).      *
Make the file open dialog more compact.      * Ellipsize tab labels and some
status messages for very long        filenames (closes #2777348).      * Add new
toolbar element: Print (patch by Roland Baudin).      * Remember the active
sidebar page between sessions.      * Add "Recent Projects" menu to the Project
menu (#2728630,        patch by Elias Pschernig).      * Add
Tools->Configuration Files item for snippets.conf.        Filetypes:      * Fix
wrong Fortran 90 comment characters when inserting templates.      * Add
filetype ActionScript (patch by Chris Macksey).      * Fixes for CSS, Fortran
and Ruby parsers.      * Add a trivial symbol parser for NSIS files.
Windows:      * On Windows, change the working directory to the Geany
installation        path at startup to avoid unwanted directory locking(closes
#2626124).      * Fix window positioning on startup.      * Make build commands
on Windows run synchronously to avoid problems        with reading build
commands' output.        Plugins:      * HTMLchars: Extend plugin by bulk
replace and replace on        input for special characters to their HTML
entities.      * Splitwindow: Add keybindings for the split actions.      *
VCDiff: Remove plugin from Geany. Use GeanyVC instead.        Plugin API:      *
Deprecate sci_get_text(), sci_get_selected_text() and
sci_get_text_range().      * Add sci_get_contents(), sci_get_contents_range()
and        sci_get_selection_contents() as replacement functions to provide
an easier and cleaner API (initial patch by Frank).      * Make
GEANY_FILETYPES_NONE = 0, sort filetype IDs randomly (so we can        append
new filetypes without breaking the ABI); add        filetypes_by_title sorted
list to GeanyData.        Documentation:      * Describe how to build Geany
using the Waf build system.        Internationalisation:      * Updated
translations: be, cs, de, es, fi, fr, hu, ja, pt_BR, ru,        sv, tr, zh_CN
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 0.17-1
- Update to version 0.17
- Replace gtk214.c.tags with gtk216.c.tags
- Add standard.css.tags
- Add all tags files to CVS
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxde-common-0.4.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5507)
 Default configuration files for LXDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 New upstream version 0.4. lxde-settings has been renamed to lxde-settings-
daemon and got it's own package. The obsolete config file
/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default has been removed from this package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 18 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.1-1
- Update to 0.4.1
* Mon May 11 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4-2
- Fix Provides to allow proper upgrade
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4-1
- Update to 0.4
- Require lxmenu-data and lxde-settings-daemon
- Drop obsolete config file /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default
* Fri Mar  6 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.2.1-4
- Workaround for new gdm
- Add Pulseaudio support
- Add mixer plugin to the panel
- Require xdg-utils
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Catalyst-Plugin-I18N-0.09-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5502)
 I18N for Catalyst
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Adds a missing dependency on perl(Locale::Maketext::Lexicon) and uses
MRO::Compat instead of NEXT.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 24 2009 Iain Arnell <iarnell at gmail.com> 0.09-2
- add missing requires perl(Locale::Maketext::Lexicon)
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Iain Arnell <iarnell at gmail.com> 0.09-1
- update to 0.09
- BR perl(MRO::Compat) and perl(Test::Pod::Coverage)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-MIME-Types-1.27-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5498)
 MIME types module for Perl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Mar 13 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.27-1
- update to 1.27
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.24-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Nov 20 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.24-1
- update to 1.24
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-IDNA_Convert-0.6.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5481)
 Provides conversion of internationalized strings to UTF8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-simplepie-1.1.3-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5494)
 Simple RSS Library in PHP
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 postal-0.70-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5510)
 Tools for benchmarking mail servers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rpmdevtools-7.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5511)
 RPM Development Tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 7.3: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/devel/rpmdevtools/rpmdevtools
.spec?r1=1.16&r2=1.19
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 7.3-1
- Release 7.3.
* Sat May 23 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Add rpmdev-packager - script for getting rpm packager info.
- Use rpmdev-packager in rpmdev-bumpspec and rpmdev-init.el.
- Fix rpmdev-extract MIME type comparisons with file(1) output containing
  parameters.
* Wed May 20 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 7.2-1
- Release 7.2.
* Sun May  3 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Add dummy spec template for ad-hoc testing.
* Sat May  2 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Improve newspec/newinit when only "-o foo" argument is given (#498588,
  thanks to Edwin ten Brink).
- Try to get packager mail address for *Emacs rpm-spec-mode from ~/.fedora.cert
  if rpm-spec-user-mail-address is not set.
- Add xz support to rpmdev-extract.
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Make bumpspec's use of "head" POSIX compliant.
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Add rpmdev-newinit for easier access to the init script template, move the
  template to %{_sysconfdir}/rpmdevtools, improve reload action example.
* Tue Apr  7 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Speed up rpmls bash completion.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498588 - rpmdev-newspec -o perl-test.spec falls back to generic template (incl. patch)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498588
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sblim-cmpi-base-1.5.7-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5503)
 SBLIM CMPI Base Providers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix the permissions on the libraries.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Vitezslav Crhonek <vcrhonek at redhat.com> - 1.5.7-3
- Fix %files (to be able build -devel dependent packages)
- Remove rpath from libraries
- Spec file cleanup, rpmlint check
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501812 - sblim-cmpi-base file permissions incorrect
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501812
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xorg-x11-server-1.5.3-17.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5480)
 X.Org X11 X server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix crash due to uninitialized VModMap fields.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.5.3-17
- xserver-1.6.1-xkbsendmap.patch: Fix crash due to uninitialized VModMap fields.
* Wed Apr  8 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.5.3-16
- xserver-1.5.3-dga-crash-fix.patch: Track client state even for DGA1
  clients, and recover correctly.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #456376 - xorg crashes - BOGUS LENGTH in write keyboard desc
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456376
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 26 07:57:56 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 07:57:56 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090526075757.6E67910F896@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    arora-0.7.0-1.fc11
    cabal2spec-0.16-2.fc11
    etherboot-5.4.4-14.fc11
    geany-0.17-1.fc11
    gstreamer-0.10.23-1.fc11
    gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.23-1.fc11
    gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-1.fc11
    ibus-1.1.0.20090508-4.fc11
    ibus-pinyin-1.1.0.20090303-2.fc11
    libvirt-0.6.2-11.fc11
    perl-Catalyst-Plugin-I18N-0.09-2.fc11
    php-IDNA_Convert-0.6.3-2.fc11
    php-simplepie-1.1.3-3.fc11
    postal-0.70-4.fc11
    rpmdevtools-7.3-1.fc11
    xorg-x11-server-1.6.1.901-2.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 arora-0.7.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5508)
 A cross platform web browser
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.7.0    Most visible changes:  - Add support for OpenSearch to the
toolbar search  - Add the ability to click a button before loading flash
(clickToFlash)  - Allow to enable/disable the cache  - Revert the check for the
Oxygen style so when under KDE4 Oxygen will be used even if it has issues.
Full Changelog: http://arorabrowser.blogspot.com/2009/05/arora-070.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> - 0.7.0-1
- Update to 0.7.0
- Googlesuggest removed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cabal2spec-0.16-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5475)
 Tool for creating .spec files for Haskell Cabal Packages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest version and drop explicit ghc dependency
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 0.16-2
- drop the ghc requires (and arch) completely since not actually needed
* Wed May 13 2009 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 0.16-1
- add BR ghc-rpm-macros to templates
* Thu Apr 30 2009 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 0.15-2
- use exclusivearch since no ghc on ppc64 yet
* Sat Apr 25 2009 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 0.15-1
- templates buildrequire at least ghc-6.10.2-3 for macros
- fix binlib doc filelist name
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 0.14-1
- ghc_version is now in macros.ghc in ghc-6.10.2-3
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 0.13-1
- requires at least ghc-6.10.2-2
- ghc_version is now set directly from ghc
- ghc buildrequires no longer versioned
- pkg_libdir and pkg_docdir replaced by ghcpkgdir and ghcdocdir in macros.ghc
- add doc filelist
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 etherboot-5.4.4-14.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5506)
 Etherboot collection of boot roms
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update enables the PXE_DHCP_STRICT compile-time option as it is reported to
fix PXE booting for some users.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 5.4.4-14
- Enable PXE_DHCP_STRICT to fix PXE boot failures (bug #494541)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #494541 - [KVM] E1000 PXE boot fails with "No IP address"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494541
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 geany-0.17-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5514)
 A fast and lightweight IDE using GTK2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

There are the release not for Geany 0.17 :
------------------------------------------        Bug fixes:      * Fix broken
selection of "Document->Set Encoding" menu items.      * Fix broken non-
incremental search with the toolbar search entry when        pressing Enter
(closes #2638180).      * Fix parsing of Make output (closes #2694479, patch by
Andrea Mazzoleni).      * Fix crashes on quitting Geany (closes #2533990).
* Fix disabled Go to Tag items in the editor menu when using the        keyboard
(#2780044).      * Prevent crashes when two or more top level items in the
symbol        list have the same name (closes #2778246).        Prefs:      *
Add an option to set an additional plugin lookup path.      * Add a hidden
preference 'use_safe_file_saving'. This has serious side        effects, please
read the documentation before enabling this.        Interface:      * Add 'Send
Selection to Terminal' command to the Edit->Format menu.      * Change the
background colour of the search entries in the Find        and Replace dialogs
according to the search results.      * Add 'Close Other Documents' and 'Close
All' menu items to the tab bar        menu.      * Add an option to allow
appending the toolbar to the main menu bar        to save some vertical space.
* When a project is loaded, replace the project base path with the
project name in the Documents sidebar for parent items (closes #2723679).      *
Make the file open dialog more compact.      * Ellipsize tab labels and some
status messages for very long        filenames (closes #2777348).      * Add new
toolbar element: Print (patch by Roland Baudin).      * Remember the active
sidebar page between sessions.      * Add "Recent Projects" menu to the Project
menu (#2728630,        patch by Elias Pschernig).      * Add
Tools->Configuration Files item for snippets.conf.        Filetypes:      * Fix
wrong Fortran 90 comment characters when inserting templates.      * Add
filetype ActionScript (patch by Chris Macksey).      * Fixes for CSS, Fortran
and Ruby parsers.      * Add a trivial symbol parser for NSIS files.
Windows:      * On Windows, change the working directory to the Geany
installation        path at startup to avoid unwanted directory locking(closes
#2626124).      * Fix window positioning on startup.      * Make build commands
on Windows run synchronously to avoid problems        with reading build
commands' output.        Plugins:      * HTMLchars: Extend plugin by bulk
replace and replace on        input for special characters to their HTML
entities.      * Splitwindow: Add keybindings for the split actions.      *
VCDiff: Remove plugin from Geany. Use GeanyVC instead.        Plugin API:      *
Deprecate sci_get_text(), sci_get_selected_text() and
sci_get_text_range().      * Add sci_get_contents(), sci_get_contents_range()
and        sci_get_selection_contents() as replacement functions to provide
an easier and cleaner API (initial patch by Frank).      * Make
GEANY_FILETYPES_NONE = 0, sort filetype IDs randomly (so we can        append
new filetypes without breaking the ABI); add        filetypes_by_title sorted
list to GeanyData.        Documentation:      * Describe how to build Geany
using the Waf build system.        Internationalisation:      * Updated
translations: be, cs, de, es, fi, fr, hu, ja, pt_BR, ru,        sv, tr, zh_CN
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 0.17-1
- Update to version 0.17
- Replace gtk214.c.tags with gtk216.c.tags
- Add standard.css.tags
- Add all tags files to CVS
* Wed Apr 15 2009 pingou <pingou at pingoured.fr> - 0.16-3
- Add requires for gtk2-devel to geany-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-0.10.23-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5297)
 GStreamer streaming media framework runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream releases with a large number of bug fixes, and an updated
PulseAudio plugin.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.10.23-1
- Update to 0.10.23
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 0.10.22-4
- Move req on which and pkgconfig to gstreamer-tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.23-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5297)
 GStreamer streaming media framework base plug-ins
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream releases with a large number of bug fixes, and an updated
PulseAudio plugin.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 11 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.10.23-1
- Update to 0.10.23
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5297)
 GStreamer plug-ins with good code and licensing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream releases with a large number of bug fixes, and an updated
PulseAudio plugin.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.10.15-1
- Update to 0.10.15
* Thu May 14 2009 Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.10.14-3
- Update pulsesink to latest upstream version, fixes assertion when
  Rhythmbox tries to change the sound from the wrong thread
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-1.1.0.20090508-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5495)
 Intelligent Input Bus for Linux OS
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 1.1.0.20090508-4
- Update ibus-HEAD.patch.
- Fix bug 501211 - ibus-setup window should be raised if running or just stay on top/grab focus
- Fix bug 501640 - ibus should adds new IMEs at end of engine list not beginning
- Fix bug 501644 - [IBus] focus-out and disabled IME should hide language panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501211 - ibus-setup window should be raised if running or just stay on top/grab focus
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501211
  [ 2 ] Bug #501640 - ibus should adds new IMEs at end of engine list not beginning
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501640
  [ 3 ] Bug #501644 - [IBus] focus-out and disabled IME should hide language panel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501644
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-pinyin-1.1.0.20090303-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5484)
 The PinYin engine for IBus platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 1.1.0.20090303-2
- Update to HEAD version in upstream git repository
- Fix bug 500762 - The iBus input speed becomes much slower after "Fuzzy PinYin" enabled
- Fix bug 501218 - make the pinyin setup window come to the front
- Fix bug 500763 - User DB is unavailable in ibus for liveCD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500763 - User DB is unavailable in ibus for liveCD
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500763
  [ 2 ] Bug #501218 - make the pinyin setup window come to the front
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501218
  [ 3 ] Bug #500762 - The iBus input speed becomes much slower after "Fuzzy PinYin" enabled
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500762
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libvirt-0.6.2-11.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5515)
 Library providing a simple API virtualization
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 0.6.2-11.fc11
- Bring up the bridge, even if it doesn't have an IP address (bug #501912)
* Fri May 22 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 0.6.2-10.fc11
- Don't log monitor output to domain log file (bug #499584)
* Thu May 21 2009 Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> - 0.6.2-9.fc11
- Fix qemu argv detection with latest qemu (bug #501923)
- Fix XML attribute escaping (bug #499791)
- Fix serious event handling issues causing guests to be destroyed (bug #499698)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501912 - libvirt does not activate bridge if no IP address is assigned
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501912
  [ 2 ] Bug #499584 - info balloon is repeated in qemu log once per second
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499584
  [ 3 ] Bug #501923 - libvirt with latest qemu-kvm error: "Cannot determine QEMU argv syntax /usr/bin/qemu-kvm"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501923
  [ 4 ] Bug #499791 - virt-manager does not escape special characters in ISO file name
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499791
  [ 5 ] Bug #499698 - 'virsh destroy' destroys multiple VMs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499698
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Catalyst-Plugin-I18N-0.09-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5477)
 I18N for Catalyst
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Adds a missing dependency on perl(Locale::Maketext::Lexicon) and uses
MRO::Compat instead of NEXT.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 24 2009 Iain Arnell <iarnell at gmail.com> 0.09-2
- add missing requires perl(Locale::Maketext::Lexicon)
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Iain Arnell <iarnell at gmail.com> 0.09-1
- update to 0.09
- BR perl(MRO::Compat) and perl(Test::Pod::Coverage)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-IDNA_Convert-0.6.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5486)
 Provides conversion of internationalized strings to UTF8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-simplepie-1.1.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5478)
 Simple RSS Library in PHP
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 postal-0.70-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5492)
 Tools for benchmarking mail servers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rpmdevtools-7.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5479)
 RPM Development Tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 7.3: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/devel/rpmdevtools/rpmdevtools
.spec?r1=1.16&r2=1.19
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 7.3-1
- Release 7.3.
* Sat May 23 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Add rpmdev-packager - script for getting rpm packager info.
- Use rpmdev-packager in rpmdev-bumpspec and rpmdev-init.el.
- Fix rpmdev-extract MIME type comparisons with file(1) output containing
  parameters.
* Wed May 20 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 7.2-1
- Release 7.2.
* Sun May  3 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Add dummy spec template for ad-hoc testing.
* Sat May  2 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Improve newspec/newinit when only "-o foo" argument is given (#498588,
  thanks to Edwin ten Brink).
- Try to get packager mail address for *Emacs rpm-spec-mode from ~/.fedora.cert
  if rpm-spec-user-mail-address is not set.
- Add xz support to rpmdev-extract.
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Make bumpspec's use of "head" POSIX compliant.
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Add rpmdev-newinit for easier access to the init script template, move the
  template to %{_sysconfdir}/rpmdevtools, improve reload action example.
* Tue Apr  7 2009 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi>
- Speed up rpmls bash completion.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498588 - rpmdev-newspec -o perl-test.spec falls back to generic template (incl. patch)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498588
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xorg-x11-server-1.6.1.901-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5491)
 X.Org X11 X server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix crash due to uninitialized VModMap fields. If an unreferenced xorg.conf
section is found with the synaptics driver, the server does not emulate a
default mouse device. Don't synthesise a mouse section if an unreferenced
synaptics entry is found in the xorg.conf.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.6.1.901-2
- xserver-1.6.1-mousedrivers.patch: treat other drivers as mouse drivers too
  when parsing the config file (complements xserver-1.6.1-synaptics.patch)
- xserver-1.6.1-xkbsendmap.patch: Fix crash due to uninitialized VModMap fields.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #456376 - xorg crashes - BOGUS LENGTH in write keyboard desc
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456376
  [ 2 ] Bug #499792 - xorg.conf confiuration section for synaptics no longer used with xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.1.0-5
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499792
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From billcrawford1970 at gmail.com  Tue May 26 11:51:03 2009
From: billcrawford1970 at gmail.com (Bill Crawford)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:51:03 +0100
Subject: X11: Maximum number of clients reached
In-Reply-To: <1243088958.4016.109.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <4A0FE7E7.2030101@gmail.com>	<1242653200.21675.431.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>	<1242664498.3982.16.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<4A17E3BD.80205@gmail.com>
	<1243088958.4016.109.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A1BD7A7.2010202@googlemail.com>

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 13:53 +0200, Mildred Ki'Lya wrote:
>> On 05/18/2009 06:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
>>> On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 09:26 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>>>> Check the output of 'sudo lsof -p `pidof Xorg`' when this happens.  This
>>>> will show you what file descriptors are in use by the X server.  Last I
>>>> checked this error message was misleading, and could mean either "I've
>>>> hit the client limit" or "I've run out of file descriptors".
>>>>     
>>> That would be:
>>>
>>> su -c lsof -p `pidof X`
>> Hi,
>>
>> So, it happened again. There are 234 opened sockets, and the last file
>> descriptor seems to be 255u, so perhaps there is a limit there. Any
>> ideas on how to find the program responsible for that?
> 
> The 'u' just means the file is opened read/write. The actual fd number
> is 255, which is certainly suspicious. Just for kicks, try 'ulimit -n'
> to see if your open file limit is set too low for some odd reason.

It's not that suspicious :o) look for XFD_SETSIZE and MAXCLIENTS in the 
X server source code. It's still a hardcoded limit in the server.



From limb at jcomserv.net  Tue May 26 12:06:50 2009
From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 07:06:50 -0500
Subject: Package gallery2-ffmpeg-2.3-11.fc11.noarch.rpm is not signed
In-Reply-To: <gv75td$9hl$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20090522T174406-451@post.gmane.org>
	<gv75td$9hl$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4A1BDB5A.9010105@jcomserv.net>

Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Cry wrote:
>   
>> gallery2-ffmpeg
>>     
>
> Huh? Why is this in Fedora at all?
>
>         Kevin Kofler
>
>   
Gallery2 maintainer here.

I just took this over a couple months ago.  Is there a legal/patent 
issue here?  I can never keep which codecs are on which side of the line 
straight.

-J

-- 
in your fear, speak only peace
in your fear, seek only love

-d. bowie



From reidr at pobox.com  Tue May 26 12:39:42 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 06:39:42 -0600
Subject: Dbus changed?
In-Reply-To: <15e53e180905260053x4b244e01rac34592d67daeb48@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905241949r6ac4f714s16128b9000aac401@mail.gmail.com> 
	<f6ca9fed0905250823n15dc361w92c99df220769d3e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<13142890905250838h333a1c55rbf789a05f58ba05@mail.gmail.com> 
	<15e53e180905260053x4b244e01rac34592d67daeb48@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13142890905260539x4d449767g125a3321f4712b0b@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Richard Hughes <hughsient at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Reid Rivenburgh <reidr at pobox.com> wrote:
>> That would make sense, but I can't find any documentation related to
>> it. ?If I just replace org.gnome.ScreenSaver in the dbus-monitor
>> command with org.gnome.Session (or SessionManager) it still doesn't
>> work. ?Can you point me in the right direction...?
>
> http://www.gnome.org/~mccann/gnome-session/docs/gnome-session.html

Thanks, but I don't see any references to handling idleness in those
docs....  Am I missing something obvious here?

Reid



From stickster at gmail.com  Tue May 26 12:52:50 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 08:52:50 -0400
Subject: Package gallery2-ffmpeg-2.3-11.fc11.noarch.rpm is not signed
In-Reply-To: <4A1BDB5A.9010105@jcomserv.net>
References: <loom.20090522T174406-451@post.gmane.org>
	<gv75td$9hl$2@ger.gmane.org> <4A1BDB5A.9010105@jcomserv.net>
Message-ID: <20090526125250.GH3473@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 07:06:50AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Cry wrote:
>>   
>>> gallery2-ffmpeg
>>>     
>>
>> Huh? Why is this in Fedora at all?
>>
>>         Kevin Kofler
>>
>>   
> Gallery2 maintainer here.
>
> I just took this over a couple months ago.  Is there a legal/patent issue 
> here?  I can never keep which codecs are on which side of the line  
> straight.

AFAICT, there isn't any encumbered code in this package.  It's a
helper that sends parameters to a binary the user installs separately.

-- 
Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
  http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug



From mclasen at redhat.com  Tue May 26 13:52:07 2009
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:52:07 -0400
Subject: Dbus changed?
In-Reply-To: <13142890905260539x4d449767g125a3321f4712b0b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13142890905241949r6ac4f714s16128b9000aac401@mail.gmail.com>
	<f6ca9fed0905250823n15dc361w92c99df220769d3e@mail.gmail.com>
	<13142890905250838h333a1c55rbf789a05f58ba05@mail.gmail.com>
	<15e53e180905260053x4b244e01rac34592d67daeb48@mail.gmail.com>
	<13142890905260539x4d449767g125a3321f4712b0b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243345927.2357.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 06:39 -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Richard Hughes <hughsient at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Reid Rivenburgh <reidr at pobox.com> wrote:
> >> That would make sense, but I can't find any documentation related to
> >> it.  If I just replace org.gnome.ScreenSaver in the dbus-monitor
> >> command with org.gnome.Session (or SessionManager) it still doesn't
> >> work.  Can you point me in the right direction...?
> >
> > http://www.gnome.org/~mccann/gnome-session/docs/gnome-session.html
> 
> Thanks, but I don't see any references to handling idleness in those
> docs....  Am I missing something obvious here?

The docs are missing the Presence interface that you'll have to use...
See

http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnome-session/tree/gnome-session/org.gnome.SessionManager.Presence.xml




From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 26 13:53:29 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 13:53:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090526 changes
Message-ID: <20090526135329.857781F821C@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Tue May 26 06:15:03 UTC 2009

Removed package CastPodder
Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Tue May 26 14:11:29 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:41:29 -0430
Subject: X11: Maximum number of clients reached
In-Reply-To: <4A1BD7A7.2010202@googlemail.com>
References: <4A0FE7E7.2030101@gmail.com>
	<1242653200.21675.431.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1242664498.3982.16.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<4A17E3BD.80205@gmail.com>
	<1243088958.4016.109.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A1BD7A7.2010202@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <1243347090.16054.59.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 12:51 +0100, Bill Crawford wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 13:53 +0200, Mildred Ki'Lya wrote:
> >> On 05/18/2009 06:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> >>> On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 09:26 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> >>>> Check the output of 'sudo lsof -p `pidof Xorg`' when this happens.  This
> >>>> will show you what file descriptors are in use by the X server.  Last I
> >>>> checked this error message was misleading, and could mean either "I've
> >>>> hit the client limit" or "I've run out of file descriptors".
> >>>>     
> >>> That would be:
> >>>
> >>> su -c lsof -p `pidof X`
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> So, it happened again. There are 234 opened sockets, and the last file
> >> descriptor seems to be 255u, so perhaps there is a limit there. Any
> >> ideas on how to find the program responsible for that?
> > 
> > The 'u' just means the file is opened read/write. The actual fd number
> > is 255, which is certainly suspicious. Just for kicks, try 'ulimit -n'
> > to see if your open file limit is set too low for some odd reason.
> 
> It's not that suspicious :o) look for XFD_SETSIZE and MAXCLIENTS in the 
> X server source code. It's still a hardcoded limit in the server.

Well on my system the above incantation gives over 1200 open files, and
I'm assuming we're all using the same X server since it's F11-pre or
similar.

poc



From cry_regarder at yahoo.com  Tue May 26 15:50:20 2009
From: cry_regarder at yahoo.com (Cry)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 15:50:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Want to Crash your X Server?
Message-ID: <loom.20090526T154637-131@post.gmane.org>


Running fully update rawhide, with Desktop Effects turned on and Q965 Video,
opening the link below (evince from Firefox), results in an almost instant crash
of X and a return to the login screen.

http://sodium.resophonic.com/boost.pdf

The really annoying thing is that there was no window manager running when I
logged back in!  My top menu bar was covered by unmoveable windows.  Fortunately
I was able to reach my bottom menu bar (gnome) to add the start menu and use
that to disable desktop effects and then reenable.

Posting here since there seemed to be a quest for URLs that crashed the desktop.

Don't think this is a new bug.



From ajax at redhat.com  Tue May 26 15:53:10 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:53:10 -0400
Subject: X11: Maximum number of clients reached
In-Reply-To: <4A17E3BD.80205@gmail.com>
References: <4A0FE7E7.2030101@gmail.com>
	<1242653200.21675.431.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1242664498.3982.16.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A17E3BD.80205@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243353190.26652.57.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 13:53 +0200, Mildred Ki'Lya wrote:

> So, it happened again. There are 234 opened sockets, and the last file
> descriptor seems to be 255u, so perhaps there is a limit there. Any
> ideas on how to find the program responsible for that?

This is a bit awkward since there's no obvious way to get the inode of
the peer socket.  The best you can do is hope that it was created
immediately before the corresponding fd in the X server.  So, something
like this:

---
#!/usr/bin/python

from subprocess import Popen, PIPE

client_sockets = []
match = 0

ns = Popen(["netstat", "-an", "--unix"], stdout=PIPE)
output = ns.communicate()[0]
for line in output.split('\n'):
	if line.find("X11-unix") != -1:
		match = 1
	elif match:
		match = 0
		inode = line.split()[6]
		client_sockets.append(inode)

lsof = Popen(["lsof", "-U", "+c0", "-w"], stdout=PIPE)
output = lsof.communicate()[0]
for line in output.split('\n'):
	try:
		inode = line.split()[7]
		if inode in client_sockets:
			print line
	except:
		pass
---

- ajax
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090526/344ec0a0/attachment.sig>

From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue May 26 16:01:00 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:31:00 +0530
Subject: Want to Crash your X Server?
In-Reply-To: <loom.20090526T154637-131@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20090526T154637-131@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4A1C123C.2020301@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/26/2009 09:20 PM, Cry wrote:
> 
> Running fully update rawhide, with Desktop Effects turned on and Q965 Video,
> opening the link below (evince from Firefox), results in an almost instant crash
> of X and a return to the login screen.
> 
> http://sodium.resophonic.com/boost.pdf
> 
> The really annoying thing is that there was no window manager running when I
> logged back in!  My top menu bar was covered by unmoveable windows.  Fortunately
> I was able to reach my bottom menu bar (gnome) to add the start menu and use
> that to disable desktop effects and then reenable.
> 
> Posting here since there seemed to be a quest for URLs that crashed the desktop.
> 
> Don't think this is a new bug.

Can't reproduce it here.

Rahul



From cry_regarder at yahoo.com  Tue May 26 16:24:09 2009
From: cry_regarder at yahoo.com (Cry)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:24:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Want to Crash your X Server?
References: <loom.20090526T154637-131@post.gmane.org>
	<4A1C123C.2020301@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <loom.20090526T162210-100@post.gmane.org>


> On 05/26/2009 09:20 PM, Cry wrote:
> > 
> > Running fully update rawhide, with Desktop Effects turned on and Q965 Video,
> > 
> > http://sodium.resophonic.com/boost.pdf
> > 
> 
Rahul Sundaram <sundaram <at> fedoraproject.org> writes:
> Can't reproduce it here.

Dang.  I can't reproduce now either.  evince opened the document extremely
zoomed in but with a very large scrollable window.  The instant I started to
scroll it crashed. 




From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com  Tue May 26 16:23:18 2009
From: gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com (Gianluca Cecchi)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:23:18 +0200
Subject: status of packagekit notification icon bug after doing updates?
Message-ID: <561c252c0905260923q3bc9b982vb527bc97256fbd6@mail.gmail.com>

hi,
I lose the current situation about packagekit bug regarding updates
notifications.
In the sense that, if you are notified with updates available icon,
then you click and select "show updates"
then you apply them, you don't get the "success" window as in F10 (or
at least it disappears after some time... I didn't find it).
But the notification icon above remains. In this case if you again
select it and choose "show Updates",
it checks for updates and then it says "all software is up to date"....

Here with a system current, I applied this morning 16 updates and
after successful (I hope) as I see in
/var/log/yum.log

May 26 10:19:11 Updated: 2:qemu-common-0.10.4-4.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:12 Updated: 2:qemu-system-arm-0.10.4-4.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:14 Updated: 2:qemu-user-0.10.4-4.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:15 Updated: 2:qemu-system-sparc-0.10.4-4.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:15 Updated: 2:qemu-system-sh4-0.10.4-4.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:17 Updated: 2:qemu-system-mips-0.10.4-4.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:18 Updated: 2:qemu-system-cris-0.10.4-4.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:18 Updated: 2:qemu-system-m68k-0.10.4-4.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:19 Updated: 2:qemu-system-ppc-0.10.4-4.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:20 Updated: 2:qemu-system-x86-0.10.4-4.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:20 Updated: 2:qemu-img-0.10.4-4.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:24 Updated: policycoreutils-2.0.62-12.5.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:25 Updated: ibus-m17n-1.1.0.20090211-5.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:49 Updated: policycoreutils-python-2.0.62-12.5.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:49 Updated: 2:qemu-0.10.4-4.fc11.x86_64
May 26 10:19:50 Updated: policycoreutils-gui-2.0.62-12.5.fc11.x86_64

Repeated this afternon as 1 update came up, applied it but no success
window and icon remains there
yum.log:
May 26 18:17:25 Updated: im-chooser-1.2.6-3.fc11.x86_64

show updates
All software is up to date

Do I have to make anything as an old started rawhide, or is this bug still open?

Thanks,
Gianluca



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 26 17:04:14 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 10:04:14 -0700
Subject: status of packagekit notification icon bug after doing updates?
In-Reply-To: <561c252c0905260923q3bc9b982vb527bc97256fbd6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0905260923q3bc9b982vb527bc97256fbd6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243357454.16232.84.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 18:23 +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> hi,
> I lose the current situation about packagekit bug regarding updates
> notifications.
> In the sense that, if you are notified with updates available icon,
> then you click and select "show updates"
> then you apply them, you don't get the "success" window as in F10 (or
> at least it disappears after some time... I didn't find it).
> But the notification icon above remains. In this case if you again
> select it and choose "show Updates",
> it checks for updates and then it says "all software is up to date"....

> Do I have to make anything as an old started rawhide, or is this bug still open?

It's still open, and listed in the Common Bugs page ;)

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#updates-pending-star

there's a possible workaround there.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Tue May 26 17:46:47 2009
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:46:47 +0200
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <1243018807.16232.24.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243018807.16232.24.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1243360007.2302.15.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 12:00 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Removing Beagle is one of the first things many Mandriva users do, on
> installing the system.
> 
And the first thing I would do, had it been installed on Fedora...

> It seems that it's just not a function many users find useful, yet.
> Maybe a more comprehensive implementation like KDE's Nepomuk will do the
> trick. But yeah, desktop search is not very widely used on Linux, and
> Beagle not working with Thunderbird / Firefox wouldn't be considered a
> blocker by many in QA or releng, I don't believe.
> 
Hm... While I can see some usecase for many users and desktop search, I
myself hadn't used desktop search for years (and, it is probably just a
lack of imagination, I cannot imagine what would desktop search be
supposed to do in web browser)... Good and clean directory structure
seems faster to me (although out of question for most people I know)
than search functionality unless batch removing files, for which the
combination of 'rm' and 'find' is the IMHO best solution. Hm... but come
to think of it, I sometimes use integrated search in mc, but usually
when I need to search specific content...

Unless beagle, or rather tracker, works in a way that if I don't
explicitly use it, I don't notice it, I would rather not have it
installed by default.

Martin
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090526/31c4a43f/attachment.sig>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue May 26 18:13:05 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:13:05 -0700
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <1243360007.2302.15.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243018807.16232.24.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243360007.2302.15.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>
Message-ID: <1243361585.16232.90.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 19:46 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:

> myself hadn't used desktop search for years (and, it is probably just a
> lack of imagination, I cannot imagine what would desktop search be
> supposed to do in web browser)... Good and clean directory structure

Actually, I use it all the time these days - you just don't need Beagle
to do it :). The Awesomebar does it (I used to hate the Awesomebar, but
I've grown to love it). If I vaguely remember the rough title of a blog
post I read five days ago and can't find any more, I can just type
random words from it into the awesomebar until I hit the right ones and
it shows up. Basically you can just sort of remember something you read
in Firefox a while back, type in some key words, and the awesomebar will
probably find what you were looking for. I love it, it's great. Yeah, I
could maintain a meticulously pruned bookmark tree like we all did in
1996, but I'm fricking lazy. This works better :)

> seems faster to me (although out of question for most people I know)

In principle desktop search can do stuff you can't really do with a
directory structure, or at least not easily. For instance, what if you
organize your documents by date, but suddenly you'd like to just look up
all the ones which mention bananas? A good desktop search system lets
you do that. It's really hard to organize your documents into folders in
a way which lets you quickly isolate a set by _all_ criteria you might
want to. It is a legitimate idea, it just hasn't been really well
implemented yet, although Beagle does get close and it's good enough for
quite a lot of people already.

More extensive systems like Nepomuk will have even more interesting
capabilities, when they're done. Nepomuk could be really awesome if it
gets done properly. But for now, I don't think on a practical level we
can consider Beagle a "it's so important it must work" component.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jkeating at redhat.com  Tue May 26 18:53:34 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:53:34 -0700
Subject: Please help smoke test Fedora 11 installation! - dmraid
In-Reply-To: <1242937880.22894.50.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1242329153.2923.929.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1242937880.22894.50.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1243364014.3144.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 16:31 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> 
> Anyone have access to dmraid storage hardware?  I'm interested to know
> how the latest anaconda looks in a dmraid storage setup.
> 
> If you have any experiences to share, please drop them into the wiki
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC_Install_Test_Results#Storage_Devices) under the dmraid test case [1] or feel free to reply here.

Nvidia dmraid two disk stripe worked here.  About to try a two disk
mirror.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090526/9e4036d3/attachment.sig>

From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Tue May 26 19:21:42 2009
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:21:42 +0200
Subject: Shouldn't the fact that beagle doesn't work with both firefox
 and thunderbird be a release blocker?
In-Reply-To: <1243361585.16232.90.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4A16A4FC.5060501@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1242998390.5866.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16A789.9010602@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243000112.6548.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A16AEF3.8090806@hi.is> <4A16AFB2.8080102@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<1243018807.16232.24.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243360007.2302.15.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>
	<1243361585.16232.90.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1243365702.2302.24.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>

On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 11:13 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> In principle desktop search can do stuff you can't really do with a
> directory structure, or at least not easily. For instance, what if you
> organize your documents by date, but suddenly you'd like to just look up
> all the ones which mention bananas? A good desktop search system lets
> you do that. It's really hard to organize your documents into folders in
> a way which lets you quickly isolate a set by _all_ criteria you might
> want to. It is a legitimate idea, it just hasn't been really well
> implemented yet, although Beagle does get close and it's good enough for
> quite a lot of people already.
Well, I have a nice tree-like hierarchy of folders, sorted by content,
sometimes even symlinked and finding what I want is usually a matter of
few mouse-clicks (partly thanks to my clever bookmark structure). In web
browser I use the much-more-than-just-a-location-bar in midori that lets
me enter page names or just parts of URIs and finds the rest for me (and
sometimes I just let google or wikipedia, through the same bar, find it
for me), history and bookmarks included. I wouldn't want my web history
to be cached in a way that I'd be able to search in the actual page
content...

> 
> More extensive systems like Nepomuk will have even more interesting
> capabilities, when they're done. Nepomuk could be really awesome if it
> gets done properly. But for now, I don't think on a practical level we
> can consider Beagle a "it's so important it must work" component.
It would be in that stage if we decide to install by default, IMHO. And
for that it must totally work for the likes of me in a way that it does
not get in my way.

Martin
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090526/260ef228/attachment.sig>

From idht4n at gmail.com  Tue May 26 21:24:11 2009
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:24:11 -0700
Subject: problem with vncviewer clipboard
Message-ID: <b79371120905261424j40d9f105x925be3d0df786c59@mail.gmail.com>

I'm having vncviewer problems with f11 that I don't think
I had with f10 with respect to receiving clipboard
data from a vncviewer session.  I can paste into the
vncviewer session, but I can't copy from the vncviewer
session and paste into my f11 X session.  The vncserver
it configured to send and receive clipboard.  It's an fc6
vncserver session that I've tested it with and I believe I
was able to copy/paste both ways from the same vncserver
session from f10.  Is this a bug, or do I need to do
something different from f10 to make this work?

Thanks,

            David



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Tue May 26 21:35:24 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 17:35:24 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Recap for 2009-05-26
Message-ID: <4A1C609C.5000408@gmail.com>

The meeting recap and full IRC transcript can be found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-May-26

Please make any corrections and clarifications to that page.

= Bug Triage Meeting :: 2009-05-26 =

Agenda: 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg01189.html

== Attendees ==

* adamw
* comphappy
* iarlyy
* mcepl
* thomasj
* SMParrish
* tk009
* Viking-Ice

== Meeting Recap ==

* Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/
The metrics are up and working.
comphappy will continue to work on missing functionality, automation, 
bug fixes and confirm the accuracy of the statistics (they may not be 
correct).
This code is not ready for general public testing or stress testing at 
this time.
comphappy will announce when external testing can begin.
The code is available at http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/triage.git.

* Severity/priority - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/
The BugZappers will be setting the severity field (only) on all F12 
(rawhide) bugs as part of the regular triage process going forward.
Setting this field on F11 bugs is optional.
At a future time (TBD), we will evaluate the impact of this procedure 
and modify or change it as necessary.
Adam Williamson will make the modifications to the wiki regarding this 
new procedure.



Edward (TK009)



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Wed May 27 00:51:36 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 20:51:36 -0400
Subject: confusion about pre upgrade and /boot partition
Message-ID: <20090527005136.GB71539@mail.scottro.net>

I tried to run pre upgrade today and got an error message that my /boot
partition was too small.  The message that it could download the file
during installation if I had an ethernet connection. 

Rather than go through the whole thing, I stopped it and began to google
and to bugzilla, if there is such a word.  

The impression I am getting is that it will eventually fail if the /boot
partition is too small.  My /boot partition is about 100 MB or so.  I
removed all older kernels and left the minimum in there.  However, more
googling indicated the image it will need is actually over 100 MB. 

So, I am not sure if it would eventually fail or not if I try to go the
preupgrade route.  This was from an F10 install, which probably had a
default /boot of 100, but I could be wrong about that, I'm not sure if I
manually did the partitioning or not.  

If that is correct, I wonder if it would better to have a more emphatic
message--the message was a bit ambiguous to me, not really stating if it
would fail later, even if the image is downloaded, if the /boot
partition is too small. 

I only gave it about 5 minutes on google, so stopped after the first few
hits, many of which were older, so I'm not sure if this is still the
case or not.  

Thanks for any clarification. 

-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Willow: Oz is a werewolf. 
Buffy: It's a long story. 
Oz: Got bit. 
Buffy: But obviously not that long. 



From katzj at redhat.com  Wed May 27 01:09:03 2009
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:09:03 -0400
Subject: confusion about pre upgrade and /boot partition
In-Reply-To: <20090527005136.GB71539@mail.scottro.net>
References: <20090527005136.GB71539@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <20090527010903.GA12500@redhat.com>

On Tuesday, May 26 2009, Scott Robbins said:
> The impression I am getting is that it will eventually fail if the /boot
> partition is too small.  My /boot partition is about 100 MB or so.  I
> removed all older kernels and left the minimum in there.  However, more
> googling indicated the image it will need is actually over 100 MB. 

I'm pretty sure the image will get downloaded at upgrade-time if you
don't have enough space in /boot.  But you need enough space for the
kernels you have installed + the kernel, initrd and installer images
which is a bit bigger.
 
> So, I am not sure if it would eventually fail or not if I try to go the
> preupgrade route.  This was from an F10 install, which probably had a
> default /boot of 100, but I could be wrong about that, I'm not sure if I
> manually did the partitioning or not.  

The default /boot as of Fedora 10 (and maybe Fedora 9, but I'd have to
go back and git annotate and I'm lazy :-) was 250 megs

Jeremy



From ricks at nerd.com  Wed May 27 01:17:56 2009
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:17:56 -0700
Subject: confusion about pre upgrade and /boot partition
In-Reply-To: <20090527005136.GB71539@mail.scottro.net>
References: <20090527005136.GB71539@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <4A1C94C4.5070509@nerd.com>

Scott Robbins wrote:
> I tried to run pre upgrade today and got an error message that my /boot
> partition was too small.  The message that it could download the file
> during installation if I had an ethernet connection. 
> 
> Rather than go through the whole thing, I stopped it and began to google
> and to bugzilla, if there is such a word.  
> 
> The impression I am getting is that it will eventually fail if the /boot
> partition is too small.  My /boot partition is about 100 MB or so.  I
> removed all older kernels and left the minimum in there.  However, more
> googling indicated the image it will need is actually over 100 MB. 
> 
> So, I am not sure if it would eventually fail or not if I try to go the
> preupgrade route.  This was from an F10 install, which probably had a
> default /boot of 100, but I could be wrong about that, I'm not sure if I
> manually did the partitioning or not.  
> 
> If that is correct, I wonder if it would better to have a more emphatic
> message--the message was a bit ambiguous to me, not really stating if it
> would fail later, even if the image is downloaded, if the /boot
> partition is too small. 
> 
> I only gave it about 5 minutes on google, so stopped after the first few
> hits, many of which were older, so I'm not sure if this is still the
> case or not.  
> 
> Thanks for any clarification. 

The issue may be not that /boot is too small, but that you're using
/ (the root filesystem) for everything _including_ /boot.  In that
case, yup, you're going to run out of space PDQ (pretty damned quick).
On my laptop, for instance:

	[rick at golem3 ~]$ df -h
	Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
	/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
          	              76G   41G   31G  58% /
	/dev/sda3              92M   30M   58M  34% /boot
	tmpfs                1002M   76K 1002M   1% /dev/shm

Note that /boot and / are separate partitions, /boot is only 92MB
and that it's still 56% empty.

You can have /boot as part of the root filesystem if you want, but
you'll have to make sure the root filesystem is a type grub groks (and
that's ext2 or ext3 only at this time).  It can't be on an LVM volume
(as mine is) or be on something esoteric like a software RAID or XFS
filesystem, since the kernel has to be running to access those.

Remember that /boot only has to have enough space to hold the grub
loader stage 1.5 and stage 2 loaders, the grub.conf file, the kernel(s)
you plan to boot and their accompanying initrd images.  That's it.  /
(the root filesystem) has to have enough space to hold the kernel's
modules, system libraries and the stuff in /etc, /sbin and /bin.

So, take a careful look at the partition table again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer                      ricks at nerd.com -
- AIM/Skype: therps2        ICQ: 22643734            Yahoo: origrps2 -
-                                                                    -
-   Errors have occurred. We won't tell you where or why.  We have   -
-                         lazy programmers.                          -
----------------------------------------------------------------------



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Wed May 27 01:27:41 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:27:41 -0400
Subject: confusion about pre upgrade and /boot partition
In-Reply-To: <20090527010903.GA12500@redhat.com>
References: <20090527005136.GB71539@mail.scottro.net>
	<20090527010903.GA12500@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090527012741.GA71878@mail.scottro.net>

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:09:03PM -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 26 2009, Scott Robbins said:
> > The impression I am getting is that it will eventually fail if the /boot
> 
> I'm pretty sure the image will get downloaded at upgrade-time if you
> don't have enough space in /boot.  But you need enough space for the
> kernels you have installed + the kernel, initrd and installer images
> which is a bit bigger.

Ah, so it would fail then.  Maybe the message could be a bit less
ambiguous, like, "Hey stupid... you didn't plan ahead did ya?  Forget
it." 

Hrrm, maybe not quite that unambiguous.  :)

>  
> > .  This was from an F10 install, which probably had a
> > default /boot of 100, but I could be wrong about that, I'm not sure if I
> > manually did the partitioning or not.  
> 
> The default /boot as of Fedora 10 (and maybe Fedora 9, but I'd have to
> go back and git annotate and I'm lazy :-) was 250 megs

No, I think you're right, or at least 200--I really don't remember the
circumstance of the first install--I think I was in a rush but didn't
want LVM so probably took 100 out of habit.  

Thanks very much for the quick answer. 


-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Cordelia: You're really campaigning for bitch of the year, aren't
you? 
Buffy: As defending champion, you nervous? 
Cordelia: I can hold my own.



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 27 01:29:54 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 06:59:54 +0530
Subject: confusion about pre upgrade and /boot partition
In-Reply-To: <20090527012741.GA71878@mail.scottro.net>
References: <20090527005136.GB71539@mail.scottro.net>	<20090527010903.GA12500@redhat.com>
	<20090527012741.GA71878@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <4A1C9792.3040802@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/27/2009 06:57 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:09:03PM -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 26 2009, Scott Robbins said:
>>> The impression I am getting is that it will eventually fail if the /boot
>>
>> I'm pretty sure the image will get downloaded at upgrade-time if you
>> don't have enough space in /boot.  But you need enough space for the
>> kernels you have installed + the kernel, initrd and installer images
>> which is a bit bigger.
> 
> Ah, so it would fail then.  Maybe the message could be a bit less
> ambiguous, like, "Hey stupid... you didn't plan ahead did ya?  Forget
> it." 

It would fail if you don't have enough space in your hard disk apart
from /boot. There is a RFE filed already to improve the message

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478437

Maybe you can add your comments there.

Rahul



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Wed May 27 01:31:58 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:31:58 -0400
Subject: confusion about pre upgrade and /boot partition
In-Reply-To: <4A1C94C4.5070509@nerd.com>
References: <20090527005136.GB71539@mail.scottro.net>
	<4A1C94C4.5070509@nerd.com>
Message-ID: <20090527013158.GB71878@mail.scottro.net>

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 06:17:56PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> Scott Robbins wrote:
>>


>> The impression I am getting is that it will eventually fail if the /boot
>> partition is too small.  My /boot partition is about 100 MB or so.  I
>> removed all older kernels and left the minimum in there.  However, more
>> googling indicated the image it will need is actually over 100 MB. 
>>
>
> The issue may be not that /boot is too small, but that you're using
> / (the root filesystem) for everything _including_ /boot.  In that
> case, yup, you're going to run out of space PDQ (pretty damned quick).
> On my laptop, for instance:
>
> 	[rick at golem3 ~]$ df -h
> 	Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> 	/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
>          	              76G   41G   31G  58% /
> 	/dev/sda3              92M   30M   58M  34% /boot
> 	tmpfs                1002M   76K 1002M   1% /dev/shm
>

No, it is separate, and at present 

/dev/sda1              104M    38M    61M  39% /boot


As mentioned, in my earlier googling, it seemed that the new image will
require, at some point, about 116 MBs.  

Thanks for the further clarification. 


-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Giles: (scoffs) Magic! Magic's all balderdash and chicanery. I'm 
afraid we don't know a bloody thing. (everyone looking at him) 
Except I seem to be British, don't I? Uh, and a man. With ... 
glasses. (removes glasses) Well, that narrows it down 
considerably.



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Wed May 27 02:39:38 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:39:38 -0400
Subject: confusion about pre upgrade and /boot partition
In-Reply-To: <4A1C9792.3040802@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20090527005136.GB71539@mail.scottro.net>
	<20090527010903.GA12500@redhat.com>
	<20090527012741.GA71878@mail.scottro.net>
	<4A1C9792.3040802@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20090527023938.GA72304@mail.scottro.net>

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 06:59:54AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/27/2009 06:57 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:09:03PM -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, May 26 2009, Scott Robbins said:
> >>> The impression I am getting is that it will eventually fail if the /boot
> >>
> >> I'm pretty sure the image will get downloaded at upgrade-time if you
> >> don't have enough space in /boot.  But you need enough space for the
> >> kernels you have installed + the kernel, initrd and installer images
> >> which is a bit bigger.
> > 
> > Ah, so it would fail then.  Maybe the message could be a bit less
> > ambiguous, like, "Hey stupid... you didn't plan ahead did ya?  Forget
> > it." 
> 
> It would fail if you don't have enough space in your hard disk apart
> from /boot. There is a RFE filed already to improve the message
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478437
> 
> Maybe you can add your comments there.

Now I'm confused again.  :) 

The first two responses indicate that if /boot doesn't have enough free
space, eventually, the upgrade will fail.  Your response indicates that
this is not the case. 

As it stands, I got the error message even after removing all old
kernels from /boot.  Also, as per my earlier posts, I'm under the
impression that you need about 116M or a bit more, free space in /boot
for various images to work successfully. 

I have plenty of free space on the hard drive, it's only /boot that is
limited.  

So, if I try preupgrade, /boot is on a separate partition, and has a
limited amount of space, but the remainder of the disk has plenty of
free space, will preupgrade fail or succeed?

I realize from the responses that, to my chagrin, I did what I accuse
newcomers of doing on the forum, and didn't give enough information in
the beginning.  /boot is limited. The rest of the disk, currently
holding the F10 installation, has close to 100 GB of free space.  The
rest of the disk is on a single / partition, which wasn't the best way
to do it, but I don't really remember if I had a reason or just missed
it during installation. 

I thank all of you for your patience and apologize for not being clear
in my earlier posts. 
 
(So, at this point, I don't want to comment on the bug, because I'm
still not quite sure what the message should be.)

(I'll be going to sleep shortly, so may not respond again till
tomorrow.)

Once again, thanks to all.



-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Anya: I have witnessed a millennium of treachery and oppression 
from the males of the species, and I have nothing but contempt 
for the whole libidinous lot of them. 
Xander: Then why are you talking to me? 
Anya: I don't have a date for the prom. 
Xander: Well, gosh, I wonder why not? It couldn't possibly have 
anything to do with your sales pitch. 
Anya: Men are evil. Will you go with me? 



From satellit at bendbroadband.com  Wed May 27 02:41:38 2009
From: satellit at bendbroadband.com (Thomas C Gilliard)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:41:38 -0700
Subject: Header files for Virtualbox 2.2.2 ?
Message-ID: <4A1CA862.1010606@bendbroadband.com>

I am trying to install virtualbox 2.2.2 on Fedora 11 upgraded from 
Fedora Preview.
I am using 2.6.29.3-155.fe11.i586.PAE kernel
both VMPlayer and Virtualbox cannot find and compile header files to match.
(installed kdms)

Help-any advise greatly appreciated.
Tom G




From reidr at pobox.com  Wed May 27 03:39:03 2009
From: reidr at pobox.com (Reid Rivenburgh)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:39:03 -0600
Subject: Dbus changed?
In-Reply-To: <1243345927.2357.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <13142890905241949r6ac4f714s16128b9000aac401@mail.gmail.com> 
	<f6ca9fed0905250823n15dc361w92c99df220769d3e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<13142890905250838h333a1c55rbf789a05f58ba05@mail.gmail.com> 
	<15e53e180905260053x4b244e01rac34592d67daeb48@mail.gmail.com> 
	<13142890905260539x4d449767g125a3321f4712b0b@mail.gmail.com> 
	<1243345927.2357.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <13142890905262039t9d65733s61d0078d1432b46b@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 06:39 -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
>> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Richard Hughes <hughsient at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Reid Rivenburgh <reidr at pobox.com> wrote:
>> >> That would make sense, but I can't find any documentation related to
>> >> it. ?If I just replace org.gnome.ScreenSaver in the dbus-monitor
>> >> command with org.gnome.Session (or SessionManager) it still doesn't
>> >> work. ?Can you point me in the right direction...?
>> >
>> > http://www.gnome.org/~mccann/gnome-session/docs/gnome-session.html
>>
>> Thanks, but I don't see any references to handling idleness in those
>> docs.... ?Am I missing something obvious here?
>
> The docs are missing the Presence interface that you'll have to use...
> See
>
> http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnome-session/tree/gnome-session/org.gnome.SessionManager.Presence.xml

That did indeed do the trick, thanks!

Reid



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Wed May 27 07:23:32 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 03:23:32 -0400
Subject: Merging F11 FAQ into other wiki pages
Message-ID: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

I think it was Adam who suggested that
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ be integrated into
existing documentation.  I was thinking of replacing it with something
like the following:

>>
This document is now empty; please choose from the following related
pages:
* [http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11 Fedora 11
Installation Guide]
* [http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11preview Fedora 11
Release Notes]
* [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs Common F11 bugs]
* [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ General Fedora FAQ]
* [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicating_and_getting_help
Communicating and getting help]
<<

As for what to do with the content, my thoughts section by section:

1 - Covered by release notes
2 - Covered by installation guide
3 - Answer is broken?
4 - Should be covered by installation guide or release announcement
5 - Add to installation guide
6 - Add to installation guide
7 - (retain link)
8 - Covered by common bugs page, release notes
9 - Is "ext4 in f11" supposed to be added to the Interview page linked
    from the release notes?  It is odd that out of all the things at
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:F11_in-depth_features ext4
    has an entry in this FAQ.
10 - Should be moved to "Common bugs"
11 - Should be moved to "Common bugs"
12 - Move to "Common bugs" (more aptly named "Common issues")?
13 - Move to "Common bugs"?
14 - Probably should have been in release notes.  Can this be dropped
     or the manpage for "ls" be updated?
15 - (meta question)
16 - (retain link)

Any opinions?

-B.




From frankly3d at gmail.com  Wed May 27 07:30:14 2009
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d))
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 08:30:14 +0100
Subject: Merging F11 FAQ into other wiki pages
In-Reply-To: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A1CEC06.9010701@gmail.com>

Christopher Beland wrote:
> I think it was Adam who suggested that
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ be integrated into
> existing documentation.  I was thinking of replacing it with something
> like the following:
> 
>

I think you typed the wrong email addy, maybe docs?

Frank

-- 
msn: frankly3d  skype: frankly3d
Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List
Still Learning, Unicode where possible



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 27 07:32:45 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:02:45 +0530
Subject: Merging F11 FAQ into other wiki pages
In-Reply-To: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A1CEC9D.8030207@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/27/2009 12:53 PM, Christopher Beland wrote:

> As for what to do with the content, my thoughts section by section:
> 
> 1 - Covered by release notes
> 2 - Covered by installation guide
> 3 - Answer is broken?

Link fixed.

> 8 - Covered by common bugs page, release notes
> 9 - Is "ext4 in f11" supposed to be added to the Interview page linked
>     from the release notes?  It is odd that out of all the things at
>     https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:F11_in-depth_features ext4
>     has an entry in this FAQ.

Others are just an interview. I have done a FAQ first. Sandeen is busy
with fixing bugs and we haven't been able to finish the interview yet.

> 10 - Should be moved to "Common bugs"
> 11 - Should be moved to "Common bugs"
> 12 - Move to "Common bugs" (more aptly named "Common issues")?
> 13 - Move to "Common bugs"?
> 14 - Probably should have been in release notes.  Can this be dropped
>      or the manpage for "ls" be updated?

Err. info coreutils already provides this information but users are
missing out this particular change.

> 15 - (meta question)
> 16 - (retain link)
> 
> Any opinions?

I had already posted to fedora-docs to integrate as much as information
into the release notes. If the information goes into either the
installation guide or release notes, I have no problem with removing it
from the FAQ.  Otherwise, it should be retained.

Rahul



From lili at redhat.com  Wed May 27 07:58:38 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:58:38 +0800
Subject: Header files for Virtualbox 2.2.2 ?
In-Reply-To: <4A1CA862.1010606@bendbroadband.com>
References: <4A1CA862.1010606@bendbroadband.com>
Message-ID: <4A1CF2AE.8030500@redhat.com>

Thomas C Gilliard :
> I am trying to install virtualbox 2.2.2 on Fedora 11 upgraded from 
> Fedora Preview.
> I am using 2.6.29.3-155.fe11.i586.PAE kernel
> both VMPlayer and Virtualbox cannot find and compile header files to match.
> (installed kdms)
> 
> Help-any advise greatly appreciated.
> Tom G
> 
> 
Did you try this?
1. make sure the kennel version is the same with kernel-headers
2. yum install kernel-headers kernel-devel gcc

hope that will help :)



From fedora at leemhuis.info  Wed May 27 08:32:28 2009
From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:32:28 +0200
Subject: Header files for Virtualbox 2.2.2 ?
In-Reply-To: <4A1CF2AE.8030500@redhat.com>
References: <4A1CA862.1010606@bendbroadband.com> <4A1CF2AE.8030500@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A1CFA9C.8030708@leemhuis.info>

On 27.05.2009 09:58, Liam wrote:
> Thomas C Gilliard :
>> I am trying to install virtualbox 2.2.2 on Fedora 11 upgraded from 
>> Fedora Preview.
>> I am using 2.6.29.3-155.fe11.i586.PAE kernel
                            ^   ^^^^^^^^
Such a kernel does not exist. I guess it's fc11 and i686.PAE?

>> both VMPlayer and Virtualbox cannot find and compile header files to match.
>> (installed kdms)
> Did you try this?
> 1. make sure the kennel version is the same with kernel-headers
> 2. yum install kernel-headers kernel-devel gcc
> 
> hope that will help :)

Not if it's really the PAE-Kernel:

http://thorstenl.blogspot.com/2009/05/fedora-11-kernel-pae-and-what-it-means.html

Ohh, and kernel-headers should normally not be needed to compile kernel
modules. So a simple

 yum install kernel-PAE-devel gcc

should do the trick. And BTW: RPM Fusion offers the OSE-Variant of
virtualbox, which might be easier to install and setup ;-)

CU
knurd



From brian at brianvuyk.com  Wed May 27 13:45:45 2009
From: brian at brianvuyk.com (Brian Vuyk)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:45:45 -0400
Subject: Moving from Rawhide to F11
Message-ID: <4A1D4409.6070804@brianvuyk.com>

Over the last two months, I have been running rawhide on my main 
machine, testing and filing bugs. Not that I had a ton to do. Maybe I 
missed a lot, but the system was generally very stable and useable the 
whole time.

Now that we are approaching the launch date, is there any way that I can 
move this system to F11 from Rawhide? Since I've been using this system 
for so long, and I have everything set up just the way I like it, I am a 
little hesitant to completely reinstall from fresh F11 media if I can 
avoid it.

I imagine it is mainly a matter of changing the repos. Are there other 
components I am not thinking of? Is there a list of what the F11 repos 
will be, so I can update them?

Thanks for all the hard work on F11 guys - you rock!
-- 
*Brian Vuyk*
Web Design & Development
T: 613-534-2916
Skype: brianvuyk
brian at brianvuyk.com | http://www.brianvuyk.com



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 27 13:50:36 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:20:36 +0530
Subject: Moving from Rawhide to F11
In-Reply-To: <4A1D4409.6070804@brianvuyk.com>
References: <4A1D4409.6070804@brianvuyk.com>
Message-ID: <4A1D452C.2000500@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/27/2009 07:15 PM, Brian Vuyk wrote:
> Over the last two months, I have been running rawhide on my main
> machine, testing and filing bugs. Not that I had a ton to do. Maybe I
> missed a lot, but the system was generally very stable and useable the
> whole time.
> 
> Now that we are approaching the launch date, is there any way that I can
> move this system to F11 from Rawhide? Since I've been using this system
> for so long, and I have everything set up just the way I like it, I am a
> little hesitant to completely reinstall from fresh F11 media if I can
> avoid it.
> 
> I imagine it is mainly a matter of changing the repos. Are there other
> components I am not thinking of? Is there a list of what the F11 repos
> will be, so I can update them?

Refer

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_from_pre-release_to_final

# yum update

Verify that the repositories have been switched over with

# yum repolist

Rahul



From dgboles at comcast.net  Wed May 27 13:51:48 2009
From: dgboles at comcast.net (David)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:51:48 -0400
Subject: Moving from Rawhide to F11
In-Reply-To: <4A1D4409.6070804@brianvuyk.com>
References: <4A1D4409.6070804@brianvuyk.com>
Message-ID: <4A1D4574.6000008@comcast.net>

On 5/27/2009 9:45 AM, Brian Vuyk wrote:
> Over the last two months, I have been running rawhide on my main
> machine, testing and filing bugs. Not that I had a ton to do. Maybe I
> missed a lot, but the system was generally very stable and useable the
> whole time.
> 
> Now that we are approaching the launch date, is there any way that I can
> move this system to F11 from Rawhide? Since I've been using this system
> for so long, and I have everything set up just the way I like it, I am a
> little hesitant to completely reinstall from fresh F11 media if I can
> avoid it.
> 
> I imagine it is mainly a matter of changing the repos. Are there other
> components I am not thinking of? Is there a list of what the F11 repos
> will be, so I can update them?
> 
> Thanks for all the hard work on F11 guys - you rock!


Change nothing. It has already been done for you if you have updated all
along.

type in a terminal:  cat /etc/fedora-release

-- 


  David



From brian at brianvuyk.com  Wed May 27 13:52:07 2009
From: brian at brianvuyk.com (Brian Vuyk)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:52:07 -0400
Subject: Moving from Rawhide to F11
In-Reply-To: <4A1D452C.2000500@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4A1D4409.6070804@brianvuyk.com>
	<4A1D452C.2000500@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4A1D4587.9070905@brianvuyk.com>

Thanks a million!

On 05/27/2009 09:50 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/27/2009 07:15 PM, Brian Vuyk wrote:
>    
>> Over the last two months, I have been running rawhide on my main
>> machine, testing and filing bugs. Not that I had a ton to do. Maybe I
>> missed a lot, but the system was generally very stable and useable the
>> whole time.
>>
>> Now that we are approaching the launch date, is there any way that I can
>> move this system to F11 from Rawhide? Since I've been using this system
>> for so long, and I have everything set up just the way I like it, I am a
>> little hesitant to completely reinstall from fresh F11 media if I can
>> avoid it.
>>
>> I imagine it is mainly a matter of changing the repos. Are there other
>> components I am not thinking of? Is there a list of what the F11 repos
>> will be, so I can update them?
>>      
>
> Refer
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_from_pre-release_to_final
>
> # yum update
>
> Verify that the repositories have been switched over with
>
> # yum repolist
>
> Rahul
>
>    


-- 
*Brian Vuyk*
Web Design & Development
T: 613-534-2916
Skype: brianvuyk
brian at brianvuyk.com | http://www.brianvuyk.com



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 27 13:54:27 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:24:27 +0530
Subject: Fwd: [Bug 492005] Tray icon keeps listing already installed updates
Message-ID: <4A1D4613.60704@fedoraproject.org>


Hi,

For testers facing this problem, please test and provide feedback on
bugzilla.

----

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492005


Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
               Flag|needinfo?                   |




--- Comment #53 from Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com>  2009-05-27
09:51:22 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #51)
> (In reply to comment #41)
> > at the end of the update quite huge amount of data was downloaded.  
> 
> commit 5ad07501de1ab98e683f06505d5bd5db868e1414
> Author: Richard Hughes <richard at hughsie.com>
> Date:   Wed May 27 09:18:01 2009 +0100
> 
>     When we search for the file list after an install or upgrade, use the local
> package not the remote package else we might start downloading remote package
> lists
> 
> :100644 100644 0026169... 9144ebb... M  src/pk-transaction.c  

There's a test package here to fix this specific issue if you're
interested in
testing:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1379550



From brian at brianvuyk.com  Wed May 27 13:55:17 2009
From: brian at brianvuyk.com (Brian Vuyk)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:55:17 -0400
Subject: Moving from Rawhide to F11
In-Reply-To: <4A1D4574.6000008@comcast.net>
References: <4A1D4409.6070804@brianvuyk.com> <4A1D4574.6000008@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4A1D4645.2020408@brianvuyk.com>

Excellent - thanks! Looks like you guys have everything covered!

On 05/27/2009 09:51 AM, David wrote:
> On 5/27/2009 9:45 AM, Brian Vuyk wrote:
>    
>> Over the last two months, I have been running rawhide on my main
>> machine, testing and filing bugs. Not that I had a ton to do. Maybe I
>> missed a lot, but the system was generally very stable and useable the
>> whole time.
>>
>> Now that we are approaching the launch date, is there any way that I can
>> move this system to F11 from Rawhide? Since I've been using this system
>> for so long, and I have everything set up just the way I like it, I am a
>> little hesitant to completely reinstall from fresh F11 media if I can
>> avoid it.
>>
>> I imagine it is mainly a matter of changing the repos. Are there other
>> components I am not thinking of? Is there a list of what the F11 repos
>> will be, so I can update them?
>>
>> Thanks for all the hard work on F11 guys - you rock!
>>      
>
>
> Change nothing. It has already been done for you if you have updated all
> along.
>
> type in a terminal:  cat /etc/fedora-release
>
>    


-- 
*Brian Vuyk*
Web Design & Development
T: 613-534-2916
Skype: brianvuyk
brian at brianvuyk.com | http://www.brianvuyk.com



From dgboles at comcast.net  Wed May 27 13:59:26 2009
From: dgboles at comcast.net (David)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:59:26 -0400
Subject: Moving from Rawhide to F11
In-Reply-To: <4A1D4645.2020408@brianvuyk.com>
References: <4A1D4409.6070804@brianvuyk.com> <4A1D4574.6000008@comcast.net>
	<4A1D4645.2020408@brianvuyk.com>
Message-ID: <4A1D473E.6080104@comcast.net>

On 5/27/2009 9:55 AM, Brian Vuyk wrote:
> Excellent - thanks! Looks like you guys have everything covered!
> 
> On 05/27/2009 09:51 AM, David wrote:
>> On 5/27/2009 9:45 AM, Brian Vuyk wrote:
>>   
>>> Over the last two months, I have been running rawhide on my main
>>> machine, testing and filing bugs. Not that I had a ton to do. Maybe I
>>> missed a lot, but the system was generally very stable and useable the
>>> whole time.
>>>
>>> Now that we are approaching the launch date, is there any way that I can
>>> move this system to F11 from Rawhide? Since I've been using this system
>>> for so long, and I have everything set up just the way I like it, I am a
>>> little hesitant to completely reinstall from fresh F11 media if I can
>>> avoid it.
>>>
>>> I imagine it is mainly a matter of changing the repos. Are there other
>>> components I am not thinking of? Is there a list of what the F11 repos
>>> will be, so I can update them?
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the hard work on F11 guys - you rock!
>>>      
>>
>>
>> Change nothing. It has already been done for you if you have updated all
>> along.
>>
>> type in a terminal:  cat /etc/fedora-release


Rahul is one of "you guys". Me? I am just a lowly long time user.



-- 


  David



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May 27 14:03:23 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:03:23 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-27 - Fedora QA Meeting Agenda
Message-ID: <1243433003.2709.67.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

Fedora QA Meeting
Date: 2009-05-27
Time: 16:00 UTC (12 EDT)
Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 

Several folks may have a meeting conflict at 17:00 UTC today.  Should
discussion demand more time, we can continue in #fedora-qa.  If
possible, I'd like to focus on F11 Common bugs discussion today.

        1. Previous meeting follow-up ...
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090520
                        
        2. Autoqa (http://autoqa.fedorahosted.org) - revisit post F-11
                        
        3. F-11 GA Preparation 
                        
        4. F-11 Common Bugs update
                
        5. <Your topic here>
        
Hope to see you there.

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090527/b870f216/attachment.sig>

From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May 27 15:00:29 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:00:29 -0400
Subject: Please help smoke test Fedora 11 installation! - askmethod
In-Reply-To: <A2066D3A76185142903B298874762B7002D112AB@ILEXC2U03.ndc.lucent.com>
References: <1242329153.2923.929.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1242937880.22894.50.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<A2066D3A76185142903B298874762B7002D112AB@ILEXC2U03.ndc.lucent.com>
Message-ID: <1243436429.2709.74.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 11:43 -0500, Styma, Robert E (Robert) wrote:
> 
> 1.  Starting with Fedora 10, the boot.iso disk does not prompt you for
>     the install method unless you press the TAB key and add the 
>     parameter askmethod to the parameters.  This is not how it is 
>     documented and took a while to figure out.  If you just press 
>     enter, it goes right to anaconda and says:
>     "Local Installation Media Found"
>     It then tries to use the boot.iso CD as the install media which
>     of course does not work.  The correction is to add the askmethod
>     parm to default parameters on the boot.iso image.  Having the
>     default action be something that does not work is not good.

Greetings Bob,

Starting with Fedora 10, the boot.iso contains both stage#1 and stage#2
(aka install.img) needed by the installer.  The only missing pieces are
the packages.  You will be prompted later for the correctly repository
access methods during installation.

If you want a physical media solution that doesn't require extra steps,
you are probably looking for a DVD installation.  The Fedora 11
installation guide (http://rlandmann.fedorapeople.org/Installation%
20Guide/en-US/html/sn-which-files.html) attempts to outline the
differences between the bootable installer files.

Thanks,
James

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090527/ad7b0ca5/attachment.sig>

From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 27 15:12:13 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:12:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090527 changes
Message-ID: <20090527151213.C4FF81F821C@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Wed May 27 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

anaconda-11.5.0.56-1.fc11
-------------------------
* Tue May 26 2009 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> - 11.5.0.55-1
- Fix blank network device descriptions in the loader. (#501757) (notting)
- Make sure the right _isMigratable gets used for Ext3FS (#501585). (clumens)

* Tue May 26 2009 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> - 11.5.0.56-1
- Ensure matching rootfs type to live type with autopart (#501876) (katzj)


eggdrop-1.6.19-4.fc11
---------------------
* Tue May 26 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 1.6.19-4
- Added upstream ctcpfix to solve CVE-2009-1789 (#502650)


kernel-2.6.29.4-162.fc11
------------------------
* Mon May 25 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.3-160
- kvm fixes destined for 2.6.30, rhbz#492838:
   kvm-Fix-PDPTR-reloading-on-CR4-writes.patch
   kvm-Make-paravirt-tlb-flush-also-reload-the-PAE-PDP.patch

* Mon May 25 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-161
- Linux 2.6.29.4
- dropped patches:
  linux-2.6-i2c-fix-bit-algorithm-timeout.patch
  linux-2.6-ftdi-oops.patch
  linux-2.6-btrfs-fix-page-mkwrite.patch
- rebased patches:
  linux-2.6-btrfs-unstable-update.patch, page_mkwrite fixes.

* Mon May 25 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-162
- keys-Handle-there-being-no-fallback-destination-key.patch:
  fix oops at boot with autofs/krb/cifs rhbz#501588.

* Fri May 22 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> - 2.6.29.3-158
- back-port "iwl3945: use cancel_delayed_work_sync to cancel rfkill_poll"
- modify changelog entry from Apr 13 2009 to reference correct patch

* Fri May 22 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.3-159
- drm-copyback-ioctl-data-to-userspace-regardless-of-retcode.patch:
  Fix possible hang in drmWaitVblank.
   upstream 9b6fe313bfce27d4a261257da70196be0ac2bef5.

* Thu May 21 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> - 2.6.29.3-157
- mac80211-don-t-drop-nullfunc-frames-during-software.patch:
   upstream a9a6ffffd05f97e6acbdeafc595e269855829751.


mdadm-3.0-0.devel3.7.fc11
-------------------------
* Tue May 19 2009 Doug Ledford <dledford at redhat.com> - 3.0-0.devel3.7
- Only check raid devices on weekly scrubbing, don't attempt to repair them


mkinitrd-6.0.86-1.fc11
----------------------
* Thu May 21 2009 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> - 6.0.86-1
- Reorder font initialization to properly handle KMS


openoffice.org-3.1.0-11.3.fc11
------------------------------
* Mon May 25 2009 Caol??n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 1:3.1.0-11.3
- add in the ia64 and arm fixes for the secondary arch people
- Resolves(partially): rhbz#495901 No default font-width for wmf export
- ooo#101567 add Maithili locale data (some dodgy negative value and
  listseperator though)
- Resolves: rhbz#499474 soffice and .recently-used.xbel
- Resolves: ooo#102194 crash export on .doc with unused style in .toc


policycoreutils-2.0.62-12.6.fc11
--------------------------------
* Fri May 22 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.62-12.6
- Add sandbox script

* Tue May 12 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.62-12.4
- Fix portspage and generation of init_script_file in templates

* Tue May 12 2009 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.62-12.5
- More portspage fixes


rhpl-0.221-1
------------
* Tue May 26 2009 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> 0.222-1
- Fix leaking fd for loadkeys with a big hammer (#501368)
- Fix Russian keyboard (#492544)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 8









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed May 27 16:34:51 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:34:51 -0700
Subject: Merging F11 FAQ into other wiki pages
In-Reply-To: <4A1CEC9D.8030207@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4A1CEC9D.8030207@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1243442091.2937.5.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 13:02 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/27/2009 12:53 PM, Christopher Beland wrote:
> 
> > As for what to do with the content, my thoughts section by section:
> > 
> > 1 - Covered by release notes
> > 2 - Covered by installation guide
> > 3 - Answer is broken?
> 
> Link fixed.
> 
> > 8 - Covered by common bugs page, release notes
> > 9 - Is "ext4 in f11" supposed to be added to the Interview page linked
> >     from the release notes?  It is odd that out of all the things at
> >     https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:F11_in-depth_features ext4
> >     has an entry in this FAQ.
> 
> Others are just an interview. I have done a FAQ first. Sandeen is busy
> with fixing bugs and we haven't been able to finish the interview yet.
> 
> > 10 - Should be moved to "Common bugs"
> > 11 - Should be moved to "Common bugs"
> > 12 - Move to "Common bugs" (more aptly named "Common issues")?
> > 13 - Move to "Common bugs"?
> > 14 - Probably should have been in release notes.  Can this be dropped
> >      or the manpage for "ls" be updated?
> 
> Err. info coreutils already provides this information but users are
> missing out this particular change.
> 
> > 15 - (meta question)
> > 16 - (retain link)
> > 
> > Any opinions?
> 
> I had already posted to fedora-docs to integrate as much as information
> into the release notes. If the information goes into either the
> installation guide or release notes, I have no problem with removing it
> from the FAQ.  Otherwise, it should be retained.

The problem with release notes is it gets frozen for translations quite
early. (It was frozen several weeks back). However, I do believe you're
allowed to add issues to the Wiki version of the Notes post-release,
which would be good enough, since this FAQ is only on the Wiki anyway,
so we don't lose any breadth of coverage. We should get clarification
from the docs team on that, though.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 27 19:03:05 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 00:33:05 +0530
Subject: Merging F11 FAQ into other wiki pages
In-Reply-To: <1243442091.2937.5.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<4A1CEC9D.8030207@fedoraproject.org>
	<1243442091.2937.5.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A1D8E69.7050907@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/27/2009 10:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

> 
> The problem with release notes is it gets frozen for translations quite
> early. (It was frozen several weeks back). However, I do believe you're
> allowed to add issues to the Wiki version of the Notes post-release,
> which would be good enough, since this FAQ is only on the Wiki anyway,
> so we don't lose any breadth of coverage. We should get clarification
> from the docs team on that, though.

The wiki release notes beats aren't organized for direct consumption.

Rahul



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 27 19:08:45 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:08:45 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090527190845.1C14210F896@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    cyrus-imapd-2.3.14-1.fc10
    hal-0.5.12-15.20081027git.fc10
    kernel-2.6.29.4-75.fc10
    nmap-4.76-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 cyrus-imapd-2.3.14-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5522)
 A high-performance mail server with IMAP, POP3, NNTP and SIEVE support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> - 2.3.14-1
- updated to 2.3.14
- spec clean-up
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 hal-0.5.12-15.20081027git.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5527)
 Hardware Abstraction Layer
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to kernel 2.6.29.4:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.1
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.2
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.3
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.4    2.6.29.3-60:
Fixes these problems in earlier 2.6.29 kernels:  - hang on boot with HPET timer
- bluetooth OBEX protocol failure  - more DRM bugs  - wireless adapter losing
beacon after scan    Includes audio driver quirk updates from 2.6.30.
Includes a new hal package rebuilt against the new kernel headers.
2.6.29.4-72:  Enables PCI message signaled interrupts (MSI) to avoid hangs in
the i915 driver.    Includes DRM fixes from recent Fedora 11 kernels.    More
wireless fixes from Fedora 11.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.5.12-15.20081027git
- Rebuild against 2.6.29 kernel-headers, gory details in #496498
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #481448 - kernel eats a lot of memory
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481448
  [ 2 ] Bug #496140 - no autoload of padlock modules
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496140
  [ 3 ] Bug #485322 - rfkill - inadequate state for eeepc and kernels below 2.6.29-0.22.rc4.git1.fc10
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485322
  [ 4 ] Bug #497526 - Attansic NIC driver disconnects/reconnects with network
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497526
  [ 5 ] Bug #496964 - forcedeth no longer works after resume from S4 with 2.6.29.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496964
  [ 6 ] Bug #489821 - Kernel BUGs in i915_driver_irq_handler
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489821
  [ 7 ] Bug #485734 - intel-hda: snd_pcm_avail() overflows
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485734
  [ 8 ] Bug #495172 - Kernel panics when connected to wireless
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495172
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kernel-2.6.29.4-75.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5527)
 The Linux kernel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to kernel 2.6.29.4:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.1
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.2
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.3
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.4    2.6.29.3-60:
Fixes these problems in earlier 2.6.29 kernels:  - hang on boot with HPET timer
- bluetooth OBEX protocol failure  - more DRM bugs  - wireless adapter losing
beacon after scan    Includes audio driver quirk updates from 2.6.30.
Includes a new hal package rebuilt against the new kernel headers.
2.6.29.4-72:  Enables PCI message signaled interrupts (MSI) to avoid hangs in
the i915 driver.    Includes DRM fixes from recent Fedora 11 kernels.    More
wireless fixes from Fedora 11.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-75
- Fix oops in keyring code (F11#501588)
* Mon May 25 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-74
- Copy Xen / KVM updates from Fedora 11 kernel:
    kvm-Fix-PDPTR-reloading-on-CR4-writes.patch
    kvm-Make-paravirt-tlb-flush-also-reload-the-PAE-PDP.patch
    linux-2.6-xen-fix_warning_when_deleting_gendisk.patch
    linux-2.6-xen-xenbus_state_transition_when_not_connected.patch
    linux-2.6.29-xen-disable-gbpages.patch
* Mon May 25 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-73
- Enable PCI Message Signaled Interrupts (MSI) by default.
* Fri May 22 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>  2.6.29.4-72
- Comment out one DRM patch that breaks the build.
* Fri May 22 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>  2.6.29.4-71
- Copy DRM fixes from F-11:
    drm-copyback-ioctl-data-to-userspace-regardless-of-retcode.patch
    drm-edid-ignore-tiny-modes.patch
    drm-intel-big-hammer.patch
    drm-intel-gem-use-dma32-on-pae.patch
    drm-intel-gen3-fb-hack.patch
    drm-intel-hdmi-edid-fix.patch
    drm-intel-i8xx-cursors.patch
    drm-intel-include-965gme-pci-id.patch
    drm-intel-lying-systems-without-lvds.patch
    drm-intel-tiling-transition.patch
* Fri May 22 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>  2.6.29.4-70
- Copy fix from F-11:
   mac80211-don-t-drop-nullfunc-frames-during-software.patch:
    upstream a9a6ffffd05f97e6acbdeafc595e269855829751.
* Fri May 22 2009 John W. Linville <linville at redhat.com> - 2.6.29.4-69
- back-port "iwl3945: use cancel_delayed_work_sync to cancel rfkill_poll"
* Thu May 21 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-68
- Disable alsa-pcm-midlevel-add-more-strict-buffer-position.patch
  because of F11 bug #498858.
* Thu May 21 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-67
- Copy the latest btrfs unstable update from F-11.
- Remove hunks from btrfs update that went into 2.6.29.4 .
* Thu May 21 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-66
- Copy net-revert-forcedeth-power-down-phy-when-interface-is.patch
  from F-11. This reverts only the power-down part of the original
  upstream patch. (F11#501249)
* Thu May 21 2009 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-65
- Linux 2.6.29.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #481448 - kernel eats a lot of memory
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481448
  [ 2 ] Bug #496140 - no autoload of padlock modules
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496140
  [ 3 ] Bug #485322 - rfkill - inadequate state for eeepc and kernels below 2.6.29-0.22.rc4.git1.fc10
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485322
  [ 4 ] Bug #497526 - Attansic NIC driver disconnects/reconnects with network
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497526
  [ 5 ] Bug #496964 - forcedeth no longer works after resume from S4 with 2.6.29.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496964
  [ 6 ] Bug #489821 - Kernel BUGs in i915_driver_irq_handler
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489821
  [ 7 ] Bug #485734 - intel-hda: snd_pcm_avail() overflows
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485734
  [ 8 ] Bug #495172 - Kernel panics when connected to wireless
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495172
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nmap-4.76-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5528)
 Network exploration tool and security scanner
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> - 2:4.76-1
- new upstream version 4.76
- use consolehelper for root auth
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 27 19:08:45 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:08:45 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090527190845.18B0110F87F@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    libX11-1.2.1-2.fc11
    virt-viewer-0.0.3-5.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 libX11-1.2.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5523)
 X.Org X11 libX11 runtime library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Add new Indic language information to nls directory files.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> - 1.2.1-2
- libX11-1.2.1-indic.patch: Add new Indic language information to nls
  directory files (#497971)
* Tue May 26 2009 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> - 1.2.1-1
- libX11 1.2.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497971 - [ne_NP] libX11 does not support locale ne_NP.UTF-8
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497971
  [ 2 ] Bug #502433 - New upstream release 1.2.1 is available
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502433
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 virt-viewer-0.0.3-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5519)
 Virtual Machine Viewer
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May  7 2009 Daniel P. Berrange <berrange at redhat.com> - 0.0.3-5.fc11
- Fix auth against libvirt (rhbz #499594)
- Fix confusion of VNC credentials (rhbz #499595)
- Correct keyboard grab handling (rhbz #499362)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499595 - virt-viewer mixes up password and username credentials for VNC
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499595
  [ 2 ] Bug #499594 - virt-viewer doesn't know how to provide a username/password to libvirt connections
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499594
  [ 3 ] Bug #499362 - virt-viewer prevents key combinations like alt-f from being sent to the guest
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499362
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed May 27 20:58:02 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:58:02 -0400
Subject: 2009-05-27 - Fedora QA Meeting Recap
In-Reply-To: <1243433003.2709.67.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1243433003.2709.67.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1243457882.2709.137.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

Full IRC transcript available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090527

= Attendees =

* Adam Williamson (adamw)
* Will Woods (wwoods)
* John Poelstra (poelcat)
* James Laska (jlaska)
* Jesse Keating (f13)

= Previous meeting follow-up =

Carry over from previous week:
# [adamw] - BugStatusWorkFlow - ask bugzilla guys to add a link from the
bugzilla fields description page to the wiki page, for fedora
#* working w/ dkl for other related bugzilla items, will leave on for
next week
# [jlaska] - Send informal test day feedback survey to fedora-test-list
and test day participants
#* fail :( - keeping on the list for next week where coordinated surveys
will go out
# [poelcat] - Check-in on F12 schedule updates
#* Added some granularity to the schedule
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng-tasks.html
#* Contemplating additional ideas
# [wwoods] - write a few more upgrade cases (encrypted root upgrade)
#* Created [[QA:Testcase_Anaconda_Upgrade_Encrypted_Root]] and updated
the Fedora 11 test results template
([[QA:Fedora_11_Install_Results_Template]]).

New items:
# [adamw] - clean up the [[Common_F11_bugs]] page to prime contributions
from others
#* cleaned up and stubbed out several Xorg related issues
# [adamw] - ping fedora docs team for possible collaboration around
common bug edits or translation
#* Spoke to docs team about how the common_f11_bugs page is being
handled, they were happy about it.  Did not get a definite on
translation of the page yet, will re-ping
# [jlaska] - contribute installer issues to Common_F11_bugs
# [fcami+adamw] - contribute X and KMS issues to Common_F11_bugs
# [adamw] - contribute alsa/pulseaudio issues to Common_F11_bugs
#* All above topics have representation in the [[Common_F11_bugs]] page.
adamw and jlaska suggested another sweep of the mailing list to add any
common issues.
#* adamw noted he was waiting to hear back from fcami for an updates
Radeon list

= Autoqa update =

* Project page - http://autoqa.fedorahosted.org
* Status - Revisit post F11

= F-11-GA Preparation =

* Blocker bugs (by component) - http://tinyurl.com/pqeq6n (currently
'''2''' OPEN issues remain)
* Schedule - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule 
* Installation test results - [[QA:Fedora_11_RC_Install_Test_Results]]
* Release readiness meeting planned for today

Jlaska expressed an interest in reviewing where we are in the
schedule ... and discussion on any concerns around timing or next steps.

F13 pointed out that there are a ton of MODIFIED things that need to be
verified since we got a new kernel, anaconda, mkinitrd, rhpl,
policycoreutils.  Currently, there are 9 MODIFIED bugs on the F11Blocker
list (see http://tinyurl.com/pqeq6n).

Adamw pointed out that {{bz|502077}} was still in ASSIGNED, but has
positive test results from a koji scratch build that disables KMS for
the i865 VGA adapter.

Jlaska asked what expectations people have around testing the release
candidate images.  Having all MODIFIED bugs verified and a first pass at
testing of the RC media?  F13 indicated having both would be nice,
jlaska indicated that 1 to test and verify bugs was insufficient.  F13
pointed out that we may have  a few days based on the feedback for the
remaining kernel KMS bug.

Discussion followed around the exact nature and cause of {{bz|502077}}.
THe result was we need more test feedback against the koji-scratch
build.  Jlaska was going to get in contact with Jeff Bastian who has
matching hardware to help confirm the fix.

Wwoods indicated a new build of preupgrade would be pushed to stable
soon for F9, F10 and F11.

Jlaska expressed concern around only having 1 day in the schedule to
verify the 9 MODIFIED bugs and revalidate the media.  F13 suggested that
if all MODIFIED bugs turn out to be fixed (and introduce no
regressions), we are in good shape with the testing built up so far.
Jlaska suggested that testing would need to continue beyond the 1 day
for completeness, but the sync' process could start and the two could
work in parallel.  But there is risk should high severity non
workaround-able issues turn up.

= F-11 Common Bugs =

Update from [[User:adamwill]] on the F11 Common Bugs page.

* How to request common bug? - [[Common_F11_bugs#My_Bug_Is_Not_Listed]]

The meeting ran out of time to fully review this topic.  After the
formal meeting, the team discussed issues they felt needed
representation on the [[Common_F11_bugs]] list.  This included {{bz|
502077}} and {{bz|495323}}

= Open discussion =

== How to model RC1 test results wiki ==

Wwoods asked if the RC test results matrix would be cleared once the RC
lands.  Jlaska indicated he wasn't a big fan of clearing the page since
it loses history of previous results, but asked for ideas that could
retain history but clearly outline the newly tested items.  Some ideas
were:
* Just have a "Fedora 11 Final ... " results page
* Rename the current page to RC0, create a new RC1 page
* Clear out the WARN/FAIL results in the current page, await retesting

There wasn't a clear winner, the group indicated that having history was
important to potentially spot regressions.  Jlaska would likely pull
together a draft in the next day and send out to the list for review.

= Upcoming QA events =

* 2009-06-02 - [[BugZappers/Triage_days]]

= Next Meeting =

* 2009-06-03 16:00 UTC

= Action items =

* [wwoods] - create preupgrade test case and update test matrix
template 
* [jlaska] - create new RC1 test results page
* [adamw] - create common bug entry for {{bz|502077}}
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090527/e7d8562e/attachment.sig>

From laubersm at fedoraproject.org  Wed May 27 22:07:16 2009
From: laubersm at fedoraproject.org (Susan Lauber)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:07:16 -0400
Subject: Merging F11 FAQ into other wiki pages
In-Reply-To: <4A1D8E69.7050907@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4A1CEC9D.8030207@fedoraproject.org>
	<1243442091.2937.5.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A1D8E69.7050907@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <e1cf1c3a0905271507x3715cbd4g5c47352f0e242b7e@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On 05/27/2009 10:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>>
>> The problem with release notes is it gets frozen for translations quite
>> early. (It was frozen several weeks back). However, I do believe you're
>> allowed to add issues to the Wiki version of the Notes post-release,
>> which would be good enough, since this FAQ is only on the Wiki anyway,
>> so we don't lose any breadth of coverage. We should get clarification
>> from the docs team on that, though.
>
> The wiki release notes beats aren't organized for direct consumption.

I believe Adam is referring to the version at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/

The wiki is used for composing the release notes but it was locked a
few weeks ago to get everything to the translators for the rpm that
goes in the media. Additional updated to release notes can go into the
version on docs.fedoraproject.org or be integrated into any other wiki
pages.

Many section of the release notes already point to a wiki page for
additional and updated information.  That would be the first place I
would recommend for additional content at this stage.

One of the sub categories to the Documentation Category in the wiki is
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:How_to  which might be another
place to add some short tips on specific topics.

Thanks to all that are writing this content and coordinating and sharing.

-Susan (a docs team member and wiki wrangler)



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 28 02:57:16 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:27:16 +0530
Subject: Merging F11 FAQ into other wiki pages
In-Reply-To: <e1cf1c3a0905271507x3715cbd4g5c47352f0e242b7e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<4A1CEC9D.8030207@fedoraproject.org>	<1243442091.2937.5.camel@adam.local.net>	<4A1D8E69.7050907@fedoraproject.org>
	<e1cf1c3a0905271507x3715cbd4g5c47352f0e242b7e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A1DFD8C.8060508@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/28/2009 03:37 AM, Susan Lauber wrote:

> Many section of the release notes already point to a wiki page for
> additional and updated information.  That would be the first place I
> would recommend for additional content at this stage.

I have done some of that myself before but it would be nice if someone
else can do the remaining. I wouldn't have much time for this now.

Rahul



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Thu May 28 05:17:22 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 01:17:22 -0400
Subject: Merging F11 FAQ into other wiki pages
In-Reply-To: <4A1DFD8C.8060508@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4A1CEC9D.8030207@fedoraproject.org>
	<1243442091.2937.5.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A1D8E69.7050907@fedoraproject.org>
	<e1cf1c3a0905271507x3715cbd4g5c47352f0e242b7e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A1DFD8C.8060508@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1243487842.3750.22.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 08:27 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/28/2009 03:37 AM, Susan Lauber wrote:
> 
> > Many section of the release notes already point to a wiki page for
> > additional and updated information.  That would be the first place I
> > would recommend for additional content at this stage.

So, the release notes themselves point to
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/ for the latest version, but
this is a non-wiki version.  I think the only thing that was "missing"
from the release notes was the change to "ls", and it appears there is
no real way to add it.  If this information were available on the "ls"
manpage, I don't think there would be any need to list this item in an
FAQ, but people just don't find it wherever the answer is currently
buried.

There is clearly stuff missing from 
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/

It's a bit odd that the yum and preupgrade methods are not mention in
the installation guide, but they are mentioned in the release notes.

The installation guide doesn't point to a more updated or wiki-editable
version of itself, which seems like a systemic problem.  If it were
available in wiki form, the coverage would probably have already been
broadened on at least these points.  Is there anything we can do now
other than "wait for Docs people to add the requested content"?

Given how poorly it is linked to from other pages, it seems unlikely
that people will come across the Fedora 11 FAQ page before they come
across Common F11 Bugs.  (If people are searching rather than browsing,
it doesn't really matter what page the answer is on.)  Since progress on
integrating content into the "right" places is blocked, my instinct
would be to simply merge the FAQ into the Common F11 Bugs page, since
most of it belongs there anyway.  We could then remove out-of-place
items as they are integrated properly.  It would broaden the mission of
"Common Bugs" a bit, but maybe there is a need for a unified "Common
Problems and Questions" page for each release?

-B.




From beland at alum.mit.edu  Thu May 28 05:46:09 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 01:46:09 -0400
Subject: Rawhide dailies on USB drive
In-Reply-To: <20090218152257.GA10363@wolff.to>
References: <1234823905.3709.29.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1234967863.2532.20.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<20090218152257.GA10363@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <1243489569.3750.28.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 09:22 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> If you want to do this a lot, you should probably be maintaining your
> own local mirror using rsync and using livecd-creator to make spins.
> These will be for cds / dvds, but there is a program to convert these
> to a liveusb image.
> 
> You could have most of it scripted and use cron to run it when you aren't
> actively doing stuff  and have a reasonably current version ready to test
> when you wanted.

That seems like too much work, so after playing around, I have found
that downloading a prerelease LiveUSB, enabling data persistence, and
then doing "yum update" will get you a daily Rawhide-enabled LiveUSB
image.  Or at least it would except I encountered some space limitations
and some bugs which have sidetracked my component testing.  But it seems
like something which should work and if it doesn't people should file
bugs about it.  So, I've updated advice for testers to list it as an
option:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB#Download_an_ISO

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide#How_to_avoid_disturbing_an_existing_system

-B.



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 28 05:48:26 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:18:26 +0530
Subject: Merging F11 FAQ into other wiki pages
In-Reply-To: <1243487842.3750.22.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<4A1CEC9D.8030207@fedoraproject.org>	<1243442091.2937.5.camel@adam.local.net>	<4A1D8E69.7050907@fedoraproject.org>	<e1cf1c3a0905271507x3715cbd4g5c47352f0e242b7e@mail.gmail.com>	<4A1DFD8C.8060508@fedoraproject.org>
	<1243487842.3750.22.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A1E25AA.5080208@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/28/2009 10:47 AM, Christopher Beland wrote:
  We could then remove out-of-place
> items as they are integrated properly.  It would broaden the mission of
> "Common Bugs" a bit, but maybe there is a need for a unified "Common
> Problems and Questions" page for each release?

If you are willing to take the time to push the changes to installation
guide, release notes or common bugs page as appropriate, please go ahead.

Rahul



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu May 28 06:04:01 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 23:04:01 -0700
Subject: Rawhide dailies on USB drive
In-Reply-To: <1243489569.3750.28.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1234823905.3709.29.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1234967863.2532.20.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<20090218152257.GA10363@wolff.to>
	<1243489569.3750.28.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243490641.3037.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 01:46 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> That seems like too much work, so after playing around, I have found
> that downloading a prerelease LiveUSB, enabling data persistence, and
> then doing "yum update" will get you a daily Rawhide-enabled LiveUSB
> image.  Or at least it would except I encountered some space limitations
> and some bugs which have sidetracked my component testing.  

You won't get new kernels.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090527/9343aabd/attachment.sig>

From beland at alum.mit.edu  Thu May 28 06:31:22 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 02:31:22 -0400
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 10:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 13:33 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> 
> > I also had a question about the nVidia proprietary driver stock
> > response.  After reading:
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NouveauAsDefault
> > 
> > I was wondering if the response should be rewritten to suggest moving to
> > the open source "xf86-video-nouveau" driver, which will be available in
> > Fedora 11.  (Will it be backported to 9 and 10 as well?) It was also
> > unclear whether "xf86-video-nv" is open source enough not to warrant the
> > "proprietary driver" response, or what.
> 
> nouveau is available in F10 and I think F9 as well, it's just not the
> default. Probably we should say "nv or nouveau", or something similar.
> 
> nv is open source enough not to need the proprietary driver response,
> but bugs in nv are likely to be given fairly low priority in future.

Given that I don't have the hardware in question and I haven't played
around with this, I added the following:

>>
The open source "nouveau" driver is the recommended alternative.  It is
used by default in Fedora 11 and later if you remove any customizations
that explicitly set the video driver.  The older "nv" driver may be
needed in some cases.  It is also available in older Fedora releases.
Install the pacakages xorg-x11-drv-nouveau or xorg-x11-drv-nv and
override the X server's default choice if necessary.  See
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NouveauAsDefault for more
information.
<<

There doesn't seem to be a good page with step-by-step instructions for
F9 or F10 conversion, so I was vague.  Probably this will become less of
an issue as those versions are EOL'd anyway.

Improvements welcome directly to the wiki text.

-B.



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Thu May 28 07:09:20 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 03:09:20 -0400
Subject: Proposed additions to release notes (was: Re: i686 ---> i586,
	i386 ---> i586, x86_64 stays the same)
In-Reply-To: <1239771584.7274.14.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <908614.55014.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<f6ca9fed0904051304u3cd434c7sc739375d5e32f152@mail.gmail.com>
	<49D92A44.1060206@googlemail.com>
	<1238976341.6415.129.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090406145748.GB1223@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
	<20090406150318.GH4537@tyan-ft48-01.lab.bos.redhat.com>
	<20090406151729.GE1223@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
	<1239734146.7274.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1239768611.3744.48.camel@ignacio.lan>
	<1239771584.7274.14.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243494560.5892.0.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

Oops, this never made it into the release notes, so this is the next
best place I could find:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#Can.27t_find_.i686_kernel

-B

On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 00:59 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 00:10 -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > I don't think there's been a kernel.i386 for a long time. Perhaps you
> > were thinking of kernel-headers.i386.
> 
> Ah, you're right - I wasn't reading carefully.  The notes should then
> read as follows:
> 
> ===Package rebuild===
> 
> All .i386 and .i486 packages have been rebuilt as .i586 (Pentium class).
> These designations represent the ''minimum'' supported architecture
> version; Fedora 11 is ''optimized'' for Pentium 4-compatible and later
> processors.  Fedora has never officially supported pre-Pentium
> architectures, and dropping any remaining backwards compatibility with
> these chips further improves performance and allows for code
> simplification (for example in glibc).
> 
> ===.i686 kernel changes===
> 
> The kernel.i686 RPM is no longer produced.  The following kernels are
> available instead:
> 
> * kernel.i586, for those requiring compatibility with a Pentium-class
> architecture or who do not have a PAE and NX capable processor.
> * kernel-PAE.i686, which requires a PAE and NX capable processor with
> Pentium PRO-class or later architecture.
> 
> After analyzing the differences between the i585 and i686 architectures,
> dropping the non-PAE i686 kernel is not expected to have a negative
> performance impact for those required to use the kernel.i586 package.
> The kernel-PAE.i686 RPM has additional capabilities, such as support for
> ExecShield security and the ability to address up to 64GB of RAM (the
> standard kernel can address only 4GB).  Note that the architecture
> designations in RPM names represent the ''minimum'' supported
> architecture version; Fedora 11 is ''optimized'' for Pentium
> 4-compatible and later processors.
> 
> Anaconda (the recommended install method) will automatically choose the
> best kernel for your hardware.
> 
> If you are using the "yum upgrade" method (not recommended), you may
> receive the kernel.i586 package even if your processor would support the
> kernel-PAE.i686 package. To determine this, run the command:
> 
> :grep 'flags.* pae' /proc/cpuinfo | grep -wq nx && echo 'kernel-PAE'
> 
> If you see "kernel-PAE" in the output, then your CPU is capable of using
> this package, and you can manually "yum install kernel-PAE".
> 
> 



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Thu May 28 07:52:29 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 03:52:29 -0400
Subject: Rawhide dailies on USB drive
In-Reply-To: <1243490641.3037.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1234823905.3709.29.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1234967863.2532.20.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<20090218152257.GA10363@wolff.to>
	<1243489569.3750.28.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1243490641.3037.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243497149.5892.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 23:04 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> You won't get new kernels.

Ah yes, I had forgotten about the request to fix that:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446935

Advice updated.

-B.



From mcepl at redhat.com  Thu May 28 07:53:36 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 07:53:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <gvlfu0$t8t$2@ger.gmane.org>

Christopher Beland, Thu, 28 May 2009 02:31:22 -0400:
> Given that I don't have the hardware in question and I haven't played
> around with this, I added the following:
> 
> The open source "nouveau" driver is the recommended alternative.  It is
> used by default in Fedora 11 and later if you remove any customizations
> that explicitly set the video driver.  The older "nv" driver may be
> needed in some cases.  It is also available in older Fedora releases.
> Install the pacakages xorg-x11-drv-nouveau or xorg-x11-drv-nv and
> override the X server's default choice if necessary.  See
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NouveauAsDefault for more
> information.
> <<

Great, will add to the script momentarily!

Mat?j



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Thu May 28 08:07:49 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 04:07:49 -0400
Subject: Merging F11 FAQ into other wiki pages
In-Reply-To: <4A1E25AA.5080208@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4A1CEC9D.8030207@fedoraproject.org>
	<1243442091.2937.5.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A1D8E69.7050907@fedoraproject.org>
	<e1cf1c3a0905271507x3715cbd4g5c47352f0e242b7e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A1DFD8C.8060508@fedoraproject.org>
	<1243487842.3750.22.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4A1E25AA.5080208@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1243498069.5892.15.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 11:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/28/2009 10:47 AM, Christopher Beland wrote:
>   We could then remove out-of-place
> > items as they are integrated properly.  It would broaden the mission of
> > "Common Bugs" a bit, but maybe there is a need for a unified "Common
> > Problems and Questions" page for each release?
> 
> If you are willing to take the time to push the changes to installation
> guide, release notes or common bugs page as appropriate, please go ahead.

I'm not exactly sure what the next steps are for the installation guide
and release notes.  

Apparently the options include editing beat wiki pages, emailing
fedora-docs-list and flailing a bit, emailing
relnotes at fedoraproject.org, or filing a bug against either in the Fedora
Documentation product.  What has been done so far in terms of requesting
updates, and do any of these options have the possibility of getting the
English content updated before Fedora 11 final?

-B.



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 28 08:17:58 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:17:58 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090528081758.9F62D10F898@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    kadu-0.6.5.2-1.fc9
    livecd-tools-017.3-1.fc9
    matio-1.3.3-3.fc9
    pidgin-2.5.6-1.fc9
    rabbitmq-server-1.5.5-2.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 kadu-0.6.5.2-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5548)
 An Gadu-Gadu client for online messaging
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version. Fixes compatibility issues with Qt 4.5.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Dawid Gajownik <gajownik[AT]gmail.com> - 0.6.5.2-1
- Update to 0.6.5.2
- Update kadu-gcc44.patch
- Added BuildRequires qca2-devel and libXScrnSaver-devel
- Updated globalhotkeys, mime_tex, osd_hints, panelkadu, powerkadu,
  senthistory and tabs modules
- Package idle and gg_avatars modules
- Handle properly icons
- Add kadu-profiles-fix.patch
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 0.6.5-10
- Fix FTBFS: added kadu-gcc44.patch
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.6.5-9
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Jan 17 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 0.6.5-8
- rebuild with new openssl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 livecd-tools-017.3-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5600)
 Tools for building live CD's
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update adds a fix to handle changes in the Fedora 11 syslinux so that a
user can create a Fedora 11 live image on a USB stick from a Fedora 9 machine.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 27 2009 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> - 017.3-1
- Backport livecd-iso-to-disk change to work around com32's lack of
  abi guarantees (#492370, #498155)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498155 - LiveUSB boot failure: Unable to find root filesystem
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498155
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 matio-1.3.3-3.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5570)
 Library for reading/writing Matlab MAT files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pidgin-2.5.6-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5552)
 A Gtk+ based multiprotocol instant messaging client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a bugfix & security fix release of Pidgin.    The full ChangeLog is
available at http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog    Details of the
security fixes included are available at http://www.pidgin.im/news/security/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Stu Tomlinson <stu at nosnilmot.com> 2.5.6-1
- 2.5.6
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> 2.5.5-3
- F12+ removed krb4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500488 - CVE-2009-1373 pidgin file transfer buffer overflow
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500488
  [ 2 ] Bug #500490 - CVE-2009-1374 pidgin DoS when decrypting qq packets
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500490
  [ 3 ] Bug #500491 - CVE-2009-1375 pidgin PurpleCircBuffer corruption
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500491
  [ 4 ] Bug #500493 - CVE-2009-1376 pidgin incomplete fix for CVE-2008-2927
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500493
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rabbitmq-server-1.5.5-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5601)
 The RabbitMQ server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

RabbitMQ is an implementation of AMQP, the emerging standard for high
performance enterprise messaging. The RabbitMQ server is a robust and scalable
implementation of an AMQP broker.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #481224 - Review Request: rabbitmq-server - An AMQP server written in Erlang
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481224
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 28 08:17:59 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:17:59 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090528081759.0977110F8A5@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    choqok-0.6-4.fc11
    control-center-2.26.0-8.fc11
    createrepo-0.9.7-7.fc11
    duplicity-0.5.18-1.fc11
    fipscheck-1.2.0-1a.fc11
    ghdl-0.27-0.110svn.7.fc11
    gnome-applets-2.26.1-4.fc11
    gnu-smalltalk-3.1-5.fc11.1
    gprolog-1.3.1-4.fc11
    gtk2-2.16.1-6.fc11
    ibus-table-1.1.0.20090527-1.fc11
    kadu-0.6.5.2-1.fc11
    libguestfs-1.0.33-1.fc11
    libv4l-0.5.98-1.fc11
    lxsession-0.3.8-1.fc11
    matio-1.3.3-3.fc11
    mod_fcgid-2.2-12.fc11
    ncl-5.1.0-3.fc11
    papyrus-0.11.1-2.fc11
    pdfchain-0.99-3.fc11
    pdfcube-0.0.3-4.fc11
    perl-Carp-Clan-Share-0.013-1.fc11
    perl-Lingua-Flags-0.05-1.fc11
    pidgin-2.5.6-1.fc11
    plplot-5.9.4-1.fc11
    python-rope-0.9.2-1.fc11
    rabbitmq-server-1.5.5-2.fc11
    rubygem-gettext-2.0.4-1.fc11
    rubygem-locale-2.0.4-1.fc11
    slv2-0.6.6-1.fc11
    towhee-6.2.3-5.fc11
    v4l2ucp-1.3-2.fc11
    xscorch-0.2.1-0.2.pre1.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 choqok-0.6-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5549)
 Choqok KDE Micro-Blogging Client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updating Choqok to 0.6 Patched choqok to remember state of tweet to all
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 27 2009 Tejas Dinkar <tejas at gja.in> - 0.6-4
- Changed to 0.6
* Fri Apr 10 2009 Tejas Dinkar <tejas at gja.in> - 0.5-3
- Added the TweetAll patch, remove this by 0.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 control-center-2.26.0-8.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5567)
 Utilities to configure the GNOME desktop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This bug fixes a typo in the German translations that affects the background tab
in the appeareance capplet.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.26.0-8
- Fix markup in a German translation (#502341)
* Sat May  9 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.26.0-7
- Try to fix the 'jumping dpi' problem
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502341 - German translation error in gnome-appearance-properties
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502341
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 createrepo-0.9.7-7.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5632)
 Creates a common metadata repository
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- fixes for -s sha  - minor fixes to the deltarpm creation code
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May  5 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.7-7
- reup to head
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500364 - createrepo --checksum switch doesn't work correctly.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500364
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 duplicity-0.5.18-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5610)
 Encrypted bandwidth-efficient backup using rsync algorithm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Added support for RackSpace's CloudFiles, cf+http.  - Added support for Tahoe-
LAFS from the patch, upstream patch #6743: Tahoe backend for duplicity
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6743)  - Only half of this bug is fixed but
it's still useful, upstream bug #21792: pipe call fails with an error OSError:
[Errno 24] Too many open files (https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?21792)  -
Changed from using ulimit external command to resource.getrlimit to check open
files limit.  - Removed one line of code left from some testing that I did that
caused a crash when the target dir was empty and collection-status was
requested.  - Moved from using the df command to get temp space availability to
Python's os.statvfs() call. Not all df commands work the same way.  - Upstream
patch #6813: Making changelist easy to read
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6813)  - Upstream patch #6814: Ignore
comments in filelists (https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6814)  - Upstream bug
#24825: duplicity warn on insufficient TMPDIR space availability and low max
open file limits pre-backup. (https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?24825)  -
Upstream bug #25594: wrong backup statistics
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25594)  - Upstream bug #25976: Password
requested when not needed. (https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25976)  - Upstream
patch #6806: More graceful handling of old --short-filename files
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6806)  - Added tilde and variable expansion
to the source or target argument that is not a URL.  - FTP backend was failing
on PureFTPd when the "-x ''" option was removed from the second ncftpls popen, a
fix that was implemented due to bug #24741. This fix does the ls in one pass by
extracting the last entry on the 'ls -l' listing.  - If a file is unreadable due
to access rights or other non-fatal errors, put out error message and continue
rather than dying messily with a traceback.  - Added tilde '~' expansion and
variable expansion in the options that require a filename. You can now have this
"--archive-dir=~/ArchDir/$SYSNAME" if you need it. No expansion is applied to
the source or target URL's.  - Fixed problem I caused, again, where sys.exit()
was trapping instead of exiting. Added big note to not to do that again.  -
After email voting among known duplicity contributors, the decision was reached
to revert to the GPL Version 2 license, so with their consensus, duplicity is
now underGPL Version 2.  - Revert to calling NcFTP utilities (ls, get, put)
directly rather than scripting ncftp via pexpect by reverting to the 0.5.07
version of ftpbackend.py.  - Changed fatal error regarding version 3.2.0 of
ncftpput to warning level since it has been reported that the problem does not
occur on most distributions.  - Changed from log.Log with numbered log levels to
log.Debug (9), log.Info (5-8), log.Notice (3-4), log.Warn (1-2), log.FatalError
(0). The -vN option has not changed. Verbosity may also be one of: character
[ewnid], or word ['error', 'warning', 'notice', 'info', 'debug']. The default is
4 (Notice). The options -v4, -vn, and -vnotice are functionally equivalent, as
are the mixed-case versions, -vN, -vNotice, -vNOTICE.  - Normalized include
statements and tried to insure that all duplicity includes were from the
duplicity module.  - Upstream patch #6790: Add --exclude-if-present
https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6790  - Add more error detection to FTP
backend.  - Fix backends so sleep does not occur after last retry.  - Fix so
BackendException does not cause traceback except when verbosity is at level 5 or
higher (Info level).  - Adjust log levels so some errors show up with default
verbosity.  - Fixed bug where an extra comma caused a traceback during a warning
about unnecessary sig files. Plus fixed print so the real filename would show up
and not a Python object representation.  - Add Changelog.GNU to website and
distribution to add a bit of detail showing the CVS changes via rcs2log. Added
dist/mkGNUChangelog.sh.  - Upstream bug #22908: Don't block gpg-agent
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?22908)  - To fix the above, --use-agent was
added as a command line option. When this is specified and asymetric encryption
is enabled, then all GnuPG passphrases will come from the gpg-agent or
equivalent program and no passphrase prompt will be issued.  - Upstream bug
#25787: Usernames with escaped @-sign are not handled properly
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25787)  - Upstream bug #25976: Password
requested when not needed (https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25976)  - Upstream
patch #6787: import duplicity.GnuPGInterface explicitly
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/?6787)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 24 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.5.18-1
- Upgrade to 0.5.18
* Sun May  3 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.5.16-1
- Upgrade to 0.5.16
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.5.15-1
- Upgrade to 0.5.15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fipscheck-1.2.0-1a.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5585)
 A library for integrity verification of FIPS validated modules
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Tomas Mraz - 1.2.0-1a
- add lib subpackage to avoid multilib on the base package
- add ability to compute hmacs on multiple files at once
- improved debugging with FIPSCHECK_DEBUG
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ghdl-0.27-0.110svn.7.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5551)
 A VHDL simulator, using the GCC technology
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

fix std.textio.read (string) bug
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Thomas Sailer <t.sailer at alumni.ethz.ch> - 0.27-0.110svn.7
- fix bug in std.textio.read (string)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnome-applets-2.26.1-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5642)
 Small applications for the GNOME panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update makes the weather applet update its weather information when a
network connection becomes available.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.26.1-4
- Fix the network status tracking fix
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501021 - networked applets don't handle wireless changes.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501021
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnu-smalltalk-3.1-5.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-5626)
 GNU Smalltalk
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Solve a dependency issue with noarch subpackage on the ppc plattform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 24 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 3.1-5.1
- Fix dependency issue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gprolog-1.3.1-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5631)
 GNU Prolog is a free Prolog compiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Solve a dependency issue on the ppc plattform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun May 24 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 1.3.1-4
- Fix dependency issue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gtk2-2.16.1-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5609)
 The GIMP ToolKit (GTK+), a library for creating GUIs for X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update helps with a problem where upgrading from F10 can leave a stale
input method configuration file around. See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502420
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.16.1-6
- Update the immodules files in %postun (#502420)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-1.1.0.20090527-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5603)
 The Table engine for IBus platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 27 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090527-1.fc11
- Updated source tarball from upstream, which with candidate order fix.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kadu-0.6.5.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5588)
 An Gadu-Gadu client for online messaging
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version. Fixes compatibility issues with Qt 4.5.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Dawid Gajownik <gajownik[AT]gmail.com> - 0.6.5.2-1
- Update to 0.6.5.2
- Update kadu-gcc44.patch
- Added BuildRequires qca2-devel and libXScrnSaver-devel
- Updated globalhotkeys, mime_tex, osd_hints, panelkadu, powerkadu,
  senthistory and tabs modules
- Package idle and gg_avatars modules
- Handle properly icons
- Add kadu-profiles-fix.patch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libguestfs-1.0.33-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5537)
 Access and modify virtual machine disk images
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version 1.0.33 fixing multiple bugs. New upstream version 1.0.32
libguestfs only requires qemu-kvm, not all of qemu New upstream version 1.0.27.
New upstream version 1.0.30 containing multiple bugfixes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 27 2009 Richard W.M. Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.33-1
- New upstream version 1.0.33.
- --with-java-home option is no longer required.
- Upstream contains potential fixes for:
    501878 built-in commands like 'alloc' and 'help' don't autocomplete
    501883 javadoc messed up in libguestfs java documentation
    501885 Doesn't detect missing Java, --with-java-home=no should not be needed
    502533 Polish translation of libguestfs
    n/a    Allow more ext filesystem kmods (Charles Duffy)
* Tue May 26 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.32-1.fc11.1
- New upstream version 1.0.32.
- Use %find_lang macro.
* Thu May 21 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.30-1.fc11.2
- Backport version 1.0.30 from devel branch.
- Disable tests on i586 because of RHBZ#502074.
* Thu May 21 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1.fc11.2
- Change requirement from qemu -> qemu-kvm (RHBZ#501761).
* Wed May 20 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1.fc11.1
- Requested that zerofree and febootstrap be moved so we will be able
  to build this.
* Wed May 20 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1
- Backport version 1.0.27 from devel branch.
* Tue May 12 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.25-3
- New upstream version 1.0.25.
- Enable debugging when running the tests.
* Tue May 12 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.24-1
- New upstream version 1.0.24.
- BRs glibc-static for the new command tests.
- Enable tests.
* Mon May 11 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.23-2
- New upstream version 1.0.23.
- Don't try to use updates during build.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501878 - guestfish built-in commands like 'alloc' and 'help' don't autocomplete
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501878
  [ 2 ] Bug #501883 - javadoc messed up in libguestfs java documentation
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501883
  [ 3 ] Bug #501885 - Doesn't detect missing Java, --with-java-home=no should not be needed
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501885
  [ 4 ] Bug #502533 - Polish translation of libguestfs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502533
  [ 5 ] Bug #501761 - libguestfs requires qemu, not qemu-system-x86 or qemu-system-ppc
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501761
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libv4l-0.5.98-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5607)
 Collection of video4linux support libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream libv4l and v4l2ucp releases, with many new features.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 0.5.98-1
- New upstream release 0.5.98
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxsession-0.3.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5541)
 Lightweight X11 session manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

lxsession lite was a stripped down version of lxsession without the problematic
X11 session management. As XSM is now being replaced by dbus the package was
renamed to it's original name.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502404 - Review Request: lxsession - Lightweight X11 session manager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502404
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 matio-1.3.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5633)
 Library for reading/writing Matlab MAT files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mod_fcgid-2.2-12.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5604)
 Apache2 module for high-performance server-side scripting
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update moves the module's runtime state directory from
/etc/httpd/run/mod_fcgid to /var/run/mod_fcgid, as the former directory has
inappropriate permissions for mod_fcgid's usage in Fedora 11 onwards.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 2.2-12
- Don't use /etc/httpd/run as basis of "run" directory as its DAC permissions
  are not permissive enough in F-11 onwards; instead, revert to
  /var/run/mod_fcgid and tweak default config accordingly (#502273)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502273 - mod_fcgid: couldn't bind unix domain socket
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502273
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ncl-5.1.0-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5594)
 NCAR Command Language and NCAR Graphics
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes serious problems with the original 5.1.0 update. You will need
a new shell after installing the update to get all of the needed environment
changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 5.1.0-3
- Move database back to main arch dependent package
* Tue May 19 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 5.1.0-2
- Set NCARG_NCARG to /usr/share/ncarg
- Move fontcaps and graphcaps back to main arch dependent package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 papyrus-0.11.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5550)
 Cairo based C++ scenegraph library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is just a bump release to sync versions with F-10 since F-10 papyrus needed
to be rebuilt against cairomm 1.8 due to an apparent ABI breakage.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr <rvinyard at cs.nmsu.edu> - 0.11.2-1
- Rebuild for cairomm-1.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pdfchain-0.99-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5591)
 A GUI for pdftk
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release in Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502856 - Review Request: pdfchain - A GUI for pdftk
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502856
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pdfcube-0.0.3-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5544)
 PDF presentation viewer with a spinning cube
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix build on 64-bit architectures.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Jussi Lehtola <jussilehtola at fedoraproject.org> - 0.0.3-4
- Fix build on x86_64 and ppc64.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #488373 - pdfcube 0.0.3 fails to build on x86_64
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488373
  [ 2 ] Bug #488374 - pdfcube 0.0.3 fails to build on ppc64
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488374
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Carp-Clan-Share-0.013-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5573)
 Share your Carp::Clan settings with your whole Clan
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502222 - Review Request: perl-Carp-Clan-Share - Share your Carp::Clan settings with your whole Clan
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502222
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Lingua-Flags-0.05-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5569)
 Provide small flag icons
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502054 - Review Request: perl-Lingua-Flags - Provide small flag icons
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502054
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pidgin-2.5.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5583)
 A Gtk+ based multiprotocol instant messaging client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a bugfix & security fix release of Pidgin.    The full ChangeLog is
available at http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog    Details of the
security fixes included are available at http://www.pidgin.im/news/security/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Stu Tomlinson <stu at nosnilmot.com> 2.5.6-1
- 2.5.6
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> 2.5.5-3
- F12+ removed krb4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500488 - CVE-2009-1373 pidgin file transfer buffer overflow
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500488
  [ 2 ] Bug #500490 - CVE-2009-1374 pidgin DoS when decrypting qq packets
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500490
  [ 3 ] Bug #500491 - CVE-2009-1375 pidgin PurpleCircBuffer corruption
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500491
  [ 4 ] Bug #500493 - CVE-2009-1376 pidgin incomplete fix for CVE-2008-2927
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500493
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 plplot-5.9.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5625)
 Library of functions for making scientific plots
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 5.9.4 Update to 5.9.3 Update to 5.9.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 5.9.4-1
- Update to 5.9.4
- Drop soversion patch applied upstream
* Mon May  4 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 5.9.3-2
- Also obsolete plplot-gnome-devel
* Mon May  4 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 5.9.3-1
- Update to 5.9.3
- Drop gnat-4.4 and f77 patches fixed upstream
- Updated multiarch and test patches
- Add patch to fix up libnistcd.so soversion
- Convert some doc files to UTF-8
- Add lua and lua-devel sub-packages
- Remove rpaths
- Drop gcw driver and pygcw/gnome bindings deprecated upstream
- Drop gd driver deprecated upstream
- Move ldconfig run to plplot-libs, and add to plplot-wxGTK
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com>
- Only disable ocaml support on sparc64, s390, s390x
* Thu Apr 16 2009 S390x secondary arch maintainer <fedora-s390x at lists.fedoraproject.org>
- ExcludeArch sparc64, s390, s390x as we don't have OCaml on those archs
  (added sparc64 per request from the sparc maintainer)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-rope-0.9.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5635)
 Python Code Refactoring Library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream bugfix release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Toshio Kuratomi <toshio at fedoraproject.org> 0.9.2-1
- Update to upstream 0.9.2.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rabbitmq-server-1.5.5-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5581)
 The RabbitMQ server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

RabbitMQ is an implementation of AMQP, the emerging standard for high
performance enterprise messaging. The RabbitMQ server is a robust and scalable
implementation of an AMQP broker.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #481224 - Review Request: rabbitmq-server - An AMQP server written in Erlang
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481224
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-gettext-2.0.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5532)
 RubyGem of Localization Library and Tools for Ruby
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version 2.0.4 is released.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ios.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 2.0.4-1
- 2.0.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-locale-2.0.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5532)
 Pure ruby library which provides basic APIs for localization
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version 2.0.4 is released.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 27 2009 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 2.0.4-1
- 2.0.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 slv2-0.6.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5629)
 LV2 host library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

  * Add manual pages for utilities    * Reduce plugin load overhead (on-demand
querying with finer granularity)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget[DOT]fedora[AT]gmail[DOT]com> - 0.6.6-1
- Version update: 0.6.6
- Add Obsoletes/Provides to slv2-examples
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 towhee-6.2.3-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5540)
 A Monte Carlo molecular simulation code
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release in Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498246 - Review Request: towhee - A Monte Carlo molecular simulation code
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498246
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 v4l2ucp-1.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5607)
 Video4linux universal control panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream libv4l and v4l2ucp releases, with many new features.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 1.3-2
- Add libv4l support
* Mon May 25 2009 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 1.3-1
- New upstream release 1.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xscorch-0.2.1-0.2.pre1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5533)
 A Scorched Earth clone
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest version 0.2.1-pre1 which is a first release that compile on
F11.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 27 2009 Marcin Garski <mgarski[AT]post.pl> 0.2.1-0.2.pre1
- Update to 0.2.1-pre1
- Remove stack-smash and 64bit patches (merged upstream)
- Update .desktop file (#485371)
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.0-14
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Feb 19 2008 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.0-13
- Autorebuild for GCC 4.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #485371 - .desktop menu entry has wrong/missing categories
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485371
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 28 08:17:59 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:17:59 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090528081759.11A1E10F8A6@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    amarok-2.0.96-2.20090518.fc10.1
    ca-certificates-2009-1.fc10
    choqok-0.6-4.fc10
    gallery2-2.3-12.fc10
    ghdl-0.27-0.110svn.3.fc10
    gtk2-2.14.7-8.fc10
    ibus-table-1.1.0.20090527-1.fc10
    jpilot-backup-0.60-4.fc10
    kadu-0.6.5.2-1.fc10
    libv4l-0.5.98-1.fc10
    lxsession-0.3.8-1.fc10
    matio-1.3.3-3.fc10
    mkinitrd-6.0.71-6.fc10
    ncl-5.1.0-3.fc10
    papyrus-0.11.1-2.fc10
    pdfchain-0.99-3.fc10
    perl-Carp-Clan-Share-0.013-1.fc10
    perl-Lingua-Flags-0.05-1.fc10
    pidgin-2.5.6-1.fc10
    policycoreutils-2.0.57-22.fc10
    rabbitmq-server-1.5.5-2.fc10
    slv2-0.6.6-1.fc10
    towhee-6.2.3-5.fc10
    v4l2ucp-1.3-2.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 amarok-2.0.96-2.20090518.fc10.1 (FEDORA-2009-5645)
 Media player
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A preview/test build for the upcoming amarok-2.1 release. Feedback please.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 2.0.96-2.20090518.1
- hack to build against the old libgpod 0.6 in F10
* Mon May 18 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2.0.96-2.20090518
- 20090518svn snapshot
* Mon May 11 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2.0.96-1
- amarok-2.9.96 (2.1 beta2)
- -utilities -> -utils
* Fri Apr 10 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2.0.90-2
- -collectionscanner -> -utilities
* Fri Apr 10 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2.0.90-1
- amarok-2.0.90 (amarok-2.1 beta1)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499861 - amarok-2.0 center pane rendering regressions with qt-4.5.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499861
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ca-certificates-2009-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5649)
 The Mozilla CA root certificate bundle
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update includes a number of new root CA certificates which have been
approved by the Mozilla Foundation.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 27 2009 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 2009-1
- update to certdata.txt r1.53 (#502451)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502451 - subversion is missing an authority
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502451
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 choqok-0.6-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5582)
 Choqok KDE Micro-Blogging Client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updated Choqok to 0.6 Patched choqok to remember state of tweet to all
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 27 2009 Tejas Dinkar <tejas at gja.in> - 0.6-4
- Changed to 0.6
* Fri Apr 10 2009 Tejas Dinkar <tejas at gja.in> - 0.5-3
- Added the TweetAll patch, remove this by 0.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gallery2-2.3-12.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5545)
 Customizable photo gallery web site
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

See /usr/share/gallery2/gallery2-2.3-module-cleanup.README for steps to take
immediately after upgrade.  Fixes for ecard smtp and captcha issues.  Scripting
fix, do code or DB changes.  Fix for symlink handling.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 27 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-12
- Added gallery2-2.3-module-cleanup.README.
* Thu May 21 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-11
- Patch to fix SMTP, 501868.
- Patch to fix captcha, 501871.
* Thu May 14 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-10
- Fine-tuning of symlink script.
* Fri May  1 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-9
- Add rewrite dep for httpauth, BZ 498061.
- Adopt rdieter's symlink handling suggestions from rel-eng #1674.
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 2.3-8
- pretrans script logic fix. BZ498019.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502514 - Latest gallery2 release - error can't find ItemAddGalleryRemote.inc
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502514
  [ 2 ] Bug #501868 - /usr/share/gallery2/lib/smtp/smtp.php breaks ecard
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501868
  [ 3 ] Bug #501871 - Can't Make Comments Because Captcha Triggers Blank Screen Error
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501871
  [ 4 ] Bug #498334 - Missing smarty link or wrong absolute path to smarty class in gallery2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498334
  [ 5 ] Bug #498061 - Can't activate gallery2-httpauth
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498061
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ghdl-0.27-0.110svn.3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5589)
 A VHDL simulator, using the GCC technology
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

fix std.textio.read (string) bug
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Thomas Sailer <t.sailer at alumni.ethz.ch> - 0.27-0.110svn.3
- fix bug in std.textio.read (string)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gtk2-2.14.7-8.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5613)
 The GIMP ToolKit (GTK+), a library for creating GUIs for X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update should avoid a problem where an upgrade to F11 leaves a stale input
method configuration file behind.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.14.7-8
- Update the immodules files in %postun (#502420)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502420 - upgrade from F10 leaves stale gtk.immodules cache
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502420
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-1.1.0.20090527-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5627)
 The Table engine for IBus platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 Tagged override for introducing ibus-table-{cangjie,wubi,erbi,yong} that
obsoletes ibus-table-chinese afterwards. Port ibus related packages from F-11
branch to F-10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 27 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090527-1.fc10
- Updated upstream source from upstream.
* Thu May 21 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090316-2.fc10
- Obsoleted ibus-table-chinese for ibus-table-{cangjie,wubi,erbi,yong}.
* Mon Mar 16 2009 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090316-1.fc11
- Resolves: rhbz#490396
- Updated source tarball.
- Disabled speedmeter until config option is implemented.
* Fri Mar  6 2009 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090220-5
- make pkgconfig noarch with ibus-table-pkgconfig-noarch.patch
- fix license field: actually LGPL
- drop gettext-devel BR
- require ibus > 1.1.0
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090220-4.fc11
- Rebuilt.
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090220-3.fc11
- Rebuilt.
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090220-2.fc11
- Rebuilt.
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 1.1.0.20090220-1.fc11
- Resolves: rhbz#484650
- Updated to latest upstream release.
- Splitted chinese input methods into modules.
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.1.1.20081014-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Feb  4 2009 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 0.1.1.20081014-4
- Resolves: rhbz#466430 rhbz#466844
- Added wildcard features.
- Added preedit clearance on refocus.
* Mon Dec  1 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081014-3
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
* Mon Dec  1 2008 Peng Huang <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081014-2
- Modified spec file to own all directories created by ibus-table.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jpilot-backup-0.60-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5530)
 Enhanced backup plugin for J-Pilot
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to 0.60
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Patrick C. F. Ernzer <jpilot-backup.spec at pcfe.net> 0.60-4
- added a comment as to why I exclude s390 and s390s
* Tue May 26 2009 Patrick C. F. Ernzer <jpilot-backup.spec at pcfe.net> 0.60-3
- pilot-link excludes s390 and s390s, so this package needs to do the same
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Patrick C. F. Ernzer <jpilot-backup.spec at pcfe.net> 0.60-2
- fixed patch with help of Phil K. Thanks
* Sat Feb 21 2009 Patrick C. F. Ernzer <jpilot-backup.spec at pcfe.net> 0.60-1
- bump to 0.60
- new site for jpilot-backup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kadu-0.6.5.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5556)
 An Gadu-Gadu client for online messaging
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version. Fixes compatibility issues with Qt 4.5.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May  8 2009 Dawid Gajownik <gajownik[AT]gmail.com> - 0.6.5.2-1
- Update to 0.6.5.2
- Update kadu-gcc44.patch
- Added BuildRequires qca2-devel and libXScrnSaver-devel
- Updated globalhotkeys, mime_tex, osd_hints, panelkadu, powerkadu,
  senthistory and tabs modules
- Package idle and gg_avatars modules
- Handle properly icons
- Add kadu-profiles-fix.patch
* Fri Apr 24 2009 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 0.6.5-10
- Fix FTBFS: added kadu-gcc44.patch
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.6.5-9
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Jan 17 2009 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 0.6.5-8
- rebuild with new openssl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libv4l-0.5.98-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5566)
 Collection of video4linux support libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream libv4l and v4l2ucp release with many new features.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 0.5.98-1
- New upstream release 0.5.98
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lxsession-0.3.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5623)
 Lightweight X11 session manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

lxsession lite was a stripped down version of lxsession without the problematic
X11 session management. As XSM is now being replaced by dbus the package was
renamed to it's original name.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502404 - Review Request: lxsession - Lightweight X11 session manager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502404
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 matio-1.3.3-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5565)
 Library for reading/writing Matlab MAT files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mkinitrd-6.0.71-6.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5542)
 Creates an initial ramdisk image for preloading modules.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix mkinitrd creating a non booting initrd when parted-devel is installed and
the user has made configuration changes resulting in ld.so searching /usr/lib
before /lib (#502221)    Note that if you are impacted by this bug, then in
order to benifit from this update you need to regenerate your initrd like this:
KVER=######-####  mv /boot/initrd-$(KVER).img /boot/initrd-$(KVER).img.old
mkinitrd /boot/initrd-$(KVER).img $(KVER)    Where KVER should be set to the
kernel version-release for the non-bootable  kernel you are trying to fix. This
is the string between "initrd-" and ".img"  when you do a:  ls /boot    You can
find the version-release string for all installed kernels by doing:  rpm -q --qf
"%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n" kernel    This will print the full name-version-
release.arch for each installed kernel followed by the version-release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 27 2009 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> - 6.0.71-6
- Fix mkinitrd creating a non booting initrd when parted-devel is installed
  and the user has made configuration changes resulting in ld.so searching
  /usr/lib before /lib (#502221)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502221 - mkinitrd fails with: "cp: cannot stat `/usr/lib64//libparted-1.8.so.8.0.0': No such file or directory"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502221
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ncl-5.1.0-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5546)
 NCAR Command Language and NCAR Graphics
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes serious problems with the original 5.1.0 update. You will need
a new shell after installing the update to get all of the needed environment
changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 5.1.0-3
- Move database back to main arch dependent package
* Tue May 19 2009 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 5.1.0-2
- Set NCARG_NCARG to /usr/share/ncarg
- Move fontcaps and graphcaps back to main arch dependent package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 papyrus-0.11.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5592)
 Cairo based C++ scenegraph library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a rebuild against cairomm 1.8 since there appears to be an ABI breakage.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr <rvinyard at cs.nmsu.edu> - 0.11.2-1
- Rebuild for cairomm-1.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pdfchain-0.99-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5576)
 A GUI for pdftk
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release in Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502856 - Review Request: pdfchain - A GUI for pdftk
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502856
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Carp-Clan-Share-0.013-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5598)
 Share your Carp::Clan settings with your whole Clan
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502222 - Review Request: perl-Carp-Clan-Share - Share your Carp::Clan settings with your whole Clan
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502222
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Lingua-Flags-0.05-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5620)
 Provide small flag icons
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502054 - Review Request: perl-Lingua-Flags - Provide small flag icons
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502054
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pidgin-2.5.6-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5597)
 A Gtk+ based multiprotocol instant messaging client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a bugfix & security fix release of Pidgin.    The full ChangeLog is
available at http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog    Details of the
security fixes included are available at http://www.pidgin.im/news/security/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Stu Tomlinson <stu at nosnilmot.com> 2.5.6-1
- 2.5.6
* Mon Apr 20 2009 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> 2.5.5-3
- F12+ removed krb4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500488 - CVE-2009-1373 pidgin file transfer buffer overflow
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500488
  [ 2 ] Bug #500490 - CVE-2009-1374 pidgin DoS when decrypting qq packets
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500490
  [ 3 ] Bug #500491 - CVE-2009-1375 pidgin PurpleCircBuffer corruption
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500491
  [ 4 ] Bug #500493 - CVE-2009-1376 pidgin incomplete fix for CVE-2008-2927
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500493
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 policycoreutils-2.0.57-22.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5535)
 SELinux policy core utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- More portspage fixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Miroslav Grepl <mgrepl at redhat.com> 2.0.57-22
- More portspage fixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rabbitmq-server-1.5.5-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5563)
 The RabbitMQ server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

RabbitMQ is an implementation of AMQP, the emerging standard for high
performance enterprise messaging. The RabbitMQ server is a robust and scalable
implementation of an AMQP broker.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #481224 - Review Request: rabbitmq-server - An AMQP server written in Erlang
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481224
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 slv2-0.6.6-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5557)
 LV2 host library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

  * Add manual pages for utilities    * Reduce plugin load overhead (on-demand
querying with finer granularity)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Orcan Ogetbil <oget[DOT]fedora[AT]gmail[DOT]com> - 0.6.6-1
- Version update: 0.6.6
- Add Obsoletes/Provides to slv2-examples
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 towhee-6.2.3-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5624)
 A Monte Carlo molecular simulation code
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release in Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498246 - Review Request: towhee - A Monte Carlo molecular simulation code
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498246
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 v4l2ucp-1.3-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5566)
 Video4linux universal control panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream libv4l and v4l2ucp release with many new features.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 1.3-2
- Add libv4l support
* Mon May 25 2009 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 1.3-1
- New upstream release 1.3
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 1.2-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Thu May 28 09:24:19 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 05:24:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: recently, "Failed to print document, Too many failed attempts"
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905280522150.27047@localhost.localdomain>


  just recently, i'm having regular trouble printing PDF files thru
"evince", with evince complaining as above.  i used to be able to
throw a 200-page PDF file at the printer but now, i have to do it in 8
and 16 page chunks at a time.  and sometimes, even *that* doesn't
work.

  is anyone else seeing this?

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From mcepl at redhat.com  Thu May 28 09:31:22 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:31:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org>

Christopher Beland, Thu, 28 May 2009 02:31:22 -0400:
>> > to the open source "xf86-video-nouveau" driver, which will be
>> > available in Fedora 11.  (Will it be backported to 9 and 10 as well?)

There was nouveau driver in Fedora Xorg like since forever (certainly F8, 
maybe even F7, not sure about that), which in its later versions (for 
sure F10) worked for some (emphasizing *some*) better than -nv, so I was 
suggesting it over -nvidia, when somebody smallest willingness to leave 
THAT THING. However, it was certainly something which nobody could trust 
his life, honour, and welfare to.

Unfortunately F11 nouveau will almost certianly not be ported to F10, 
because it is (as all other KMS drivers) tightly linked to the 
development in kernel, and I am afraid nobody will port all KMS kernel 
patches to F10.

>> > It was also unclear whether "xf86-video-nv" is open source enough not
>> > to warrant the "proprietary driver" response, or what.

-nv is a difficult beast. From the legal standpoint it is pure open 
source (MIT/X11 license as the rest of Xorg), but from the programmer's 
point of view it is more complicated ... it has been maintained only by 
one nVidia employee, source is largely undocumented, some would say even 
obfuscated, and extremely difficult to deal with. So, yes it is open 
source (it is in Fedora, right?)

> There doesn't seem to be a good page with step-by-step instructions for
> F9 or F10 conversion, so I was vague.  Probably this will become less of
> an issue as those versions are EOL'd anyway.

I hope upgrade from F9/F10 should work automagically.

Much more interesting than how to install -{nv,nouveau} is how to get rid 
of -nvidia goo which stays on the disk (unless rpm from The Repository 
Which Shall Not Be Named is used, which quite often isn't). Mike Harris 
my esteemed predecessor in Xorg bug triaging wrote a long piece on this 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xorg/3rd_Party_Video_Drivers (which 
somebody cleaned up recently for English; thank you!).

Mat?j



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Thu May 28 09:44:09 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 05:44:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: recently, "Failed to print document, Too many failed attempts"
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905280522150.27047@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905280522150.27047@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905280542090.27252@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 28 May 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>   just recently, i'm having regular trouble printing PDF files thru
> "evince", with evince complaining as above.  i used to be able to
> throw a 200-page PDF file at the printer but now, i have to do it in 8
> and 16 page chunks at a time.  and sometimes, even *that* doesn't
> work.
>
>   is anyone else seeing this?

  just to add a bit more detail, i have a brother double-sided
printer, and i wanted to print a 182-page PDF file, double-sided and 4
images per page.

  my first attempt to print the whole thing at once failed as above.
i reduced the page sets until i was printing only 8 pages at a time
(which would fit on a single sheet of paper).  that strikes me as
unnecessarily inconvenient, and i'm pretty sure i used to be able to
print sizable documents in one fell swoop.

  could it be the printer/printer driver combo?

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Thu May 28 10:35:55 2009
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:35:55 +0100
Subject: recently, "Failed to print document, Too many failed attempts"
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905280542090.27252@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905280522150.27047@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905280542090.27252@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <200905281135.55829.cannewilson@googlemail.com>

On Thursday 28 May 2009 10:44, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >   just recently, i'm having regular trouble printing PDF files thru
> > "evince", with evince complaining as above.  i used to be able to
> > throw a 200-page PDF file at the printer but now, i have to do it in 8
> > and 16 page chunks at a time.  and sometimes, even *that* doesn't
> > work.
> >
> >   is anyone else seeing this?
>
>   just to add a bit more detail, i have a brother double-sided
> printer, and i wanted to print a 182-page PDF file, double-sided and 4
> images per page.
>
>   my first attempt to print the whole thing at once failed as above.
> i reduced the page sets until i was printing only 8 pages at a time
> (which would fit on a single sheet of paper).  that strikes me as
> unnecessarily inconvenient, and i'm pretty sure i used to be able to
> print sizable documents in one fell swoop.
>
>   could it be the printer/printer driver combo?
>
Just a thought - you say '4 images per page'.  Have you checked the size of 
those images?  A page with 4 images on, if they are fairly large, would take 
a long time to process before printing, and may be causing time-outs.  While 
I would expect to be able to send a large document in one go, I'd be doubtful 
if it contained so much processing requirement.  HTH

Anne



From affix at FedoraProject.org  Thu May 28 10:54:25 2009
From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:54:25 +0100
Subject: Fedora 11 ALSA Fails
Message-ID: <b5b999040905280354t14226783ma5fd7a898bb05567@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys,
  Just installed F11 Preview. ALSA seems to fail when I use multiple sound
cards. I get a Kernel Oops Message saying about the kernel failure in the
alsa module. I have a Realtek AC97 Audio card Build in and a Soundblaster XT
Live. Any Ideas? I have tried updating my ALSA Driver

-- 
Keiran Smith
- Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - <affix at fedoraproject.org>
- Free Software Foundation Associate - <keiran.smith at member.fsf.org>
- http://keiran-smith.net
- Call me on +44 (0) 131 208 4347
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/b7babd67/attachment.htm>

From cpanceac at gmail.com  Thu May 28 11:32:45 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:32:45 +0300
Subject: recently, "Failed to print document, Too many failed attempts"
In-Reply-To: <200905281135.55829.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905280522150.27047@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905280542090.27252@localhost.localdomain>
	<200905281135.55829.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905280432g5cfb9f5dhe3bd518fa10d6895@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/28 Anne Wilson <cannewilson at googlemail.com>

> On Thursday 28 May 2009 10:44, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 May 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > >   just recently, i'm having regular trouble printing PDF files thru
> > > "evince", with evince complaining as above.  i used to be able to
> > > throw a 200-page PDF file at the printer but now, i have to do it in 8
> > > and 16 page chunks at a time.  and sometimes, even *that* doesn't
> > > work.
> > >
> > >   is anyone else seeing this?
>

i do, brother 5250 dn.

otoh, since k3b was no longer working on gnome, i switched to kde, and kde's
evince equivalent works without any issue (except maybe the scrambled
graphics, but i don't remember if it was evince or okular in charge). still
f10, here, but not for long. i'll report more after i'll switch to f11 .

>
> >
> >   just to add a bit more detail, i have a brother double-sided
> > printer, and i wanted to print a 182-page PDF file, double-sided and 4
> > images per page.
> >
> >   my first attempt to print the whole thing at once failed as above.
> > i reduced the page sets until i was printing only 8 pages at a time
> > (which would fit on a single sheet of paper).  that strikes me as
> > unnecessarily inconvenient, and i'm pretty sure i used to be able to
> > print sizable documents in one fell swoop.
> >
> >   could it be the printer/printer driver combo?
> >
> Just a thought - you say '4 images per page'.  Have you checked the size of
> those images?  A page with 4 images on, if they are fairly large, would
> take
> a long time to process before printing, and may be causing time-outs.
>  While
> I would expect to be able to send a large document in one go, I'd be
> doubtful
> if it contained so much processing requirement.  HTH
>
> Anne
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/85da859b/attachment.htm>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Thu May 28 12:00:18 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:00:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: recently, "Failed to print document, Too many failed attempts"
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0905280432g5cfb9f5dhe3bd518fa10d6895@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905280522150.27047@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905280542090.27252@localhost.localdomain>
	<200905281135.55829.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<db64ccf0905280432g5cfb9f5dhe3bd518fa10d6895@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905280759110.29118@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 28 May 2009, cornel panceac wrote:

>
>
> 2009/5/28 Anne Wilson <cannewilson at googlemail.com>
>       On Thursday 28 May 2009 10:44, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>       > On Thu, 28 May 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>       > > ? just recently, i'm having regular trouble printing PDF files
>       thru
>       > > "evince", with evince complaining as above. ?i used to be able to
>       > > throw a 200-page PDF file at the printer but now, i have to do it
>       in 8
>       > > and 16 page chunks at a time. ?and sometimes, even *that* doesn't
>       > > work.
>       > >
>       > > ? is anyone else seeing this?
>
> i do, brother 5250 dn.

whoops, sorry, mine is a samsung scx4826-fn -- the brother was my
previous printer.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================

From caf at omen.com  Thu May 28 12:02:17 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 05:02:17 -0700
Subject: Body of Newsletter messages not showing in Thunderbird
Message-ID: <4A1E7D49.3040805@omen.com>

The body of certain messages does not show unless
"view source" is selected.  A typical message, saved by
/bin/mail s command, is attached.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
   Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665

-------------- next part --------------
An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed...
Name: ftc
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/41b7ed5e/attachment.ksh>

From stickster at gmail.com  Thu May 28 13:24:24 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:24:24 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 ALSA Fails
In-Reply-To: <b5b999040905280354t14226783ma5fd7a898bb05567@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b5b999040905280354t14226783ma5fd7a898bb05567@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090528132424.GJ8860@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:54:25AM +0100, Keiran Smith wrote:
> Hey guys,
>   Just installed F11 Preview. ALSA seems to fail when I use multiple sound
> cards. I get a Kernel Oops Message saying about the kernel failure in the alsa
> module. I have a Realtek AC97 Audio card Build in and a Soundblaster XT Live.
> Any Ideas? I have tried updating my ALSA Driver

Have you already done all updates?  There was a new kernel that was
issued yesterday IIRC, for example.  The Preview "as-is" is pretty far
behind where we are now.

-- 
Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
  http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug



From dgboles at comcast.net  Thu May 28 13:57:51 2009
From: dgboles at comcast.net (David)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:57:51 -0400
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <gvlfu0$t8t$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvlfu0$t8t$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4A1E985F.5040306@comcast.net>

On 5/28/2009 3:53 AM, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Christopher Beland, Thu, 28 May 2009 02:31:22 -0400:
>> Given that I don't have the hardware in question and I haven't played
>> around with this, I added the following:
>>
>> The open source "nouveau" driver is the recommended alternative.  It is
>> used by default in Fedora 11 and later if you remove any customizations
>> that explicitly set the video driver.  The older "nv" driver may be
>> needed in some cases.  It is also available in older Fedora releases.
>> Install the pacakages xorg-x11-drv-nouveau or xorg-x11-drv-nv and
>> override the X server's default choice if necessary.  See
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NouveauAsDefault for more
>> information.
>> <<
> 
> Great, will add to the script momentarily!


Spell check.  :-)


-- 


  David



From affix at FedoraProject.org  Thu May 28 13:59:58 2009
From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:59:58 +0100
Subject: Fedora 11 ALSA Fails
In-Reply-To: <20090528132424.GJ8860@localhost.localdomain>
References: <b5b999040905280354t14226783ma5fd7a898bb05567@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090528132424.GJ8860@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <b5b999040905280659i4e87197ei9e9a45cdfbfc065@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah I done an update today through the update Icon. Also done one through
YUM. I also tried re-installing ALSA and disabling my on-board card via
BIOS.

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:54:25AM +0100, Keiran Smith wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >   Just installed F11 Preview. ALSA seems to fail when I use multiple
> sound
> > cards. I get a Kernel Oops Message saying about the kernel failure in the
> alsa
> > module. I have a Realtek AC97 Audio card Build in and a Soundblaster XT
> Live.
> > Any Ideas? I have tried updating my ALSA Driver
>
> Have you already done all updates?  There was a new kernel that was
> issued yesterday IIRC, for example.  The Preview "as-is" is pretty far
> behind where we are now.
>
> --
> Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
>  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
>  http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
>  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Keiran Smith
- Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - <affix at fedoraproject.org>
- Free Software Foundation Associate - <keiran.smith at member.fsf.org>
- http://keiran-smith.net
- Call me on +44 (0) 131 208 4347
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/7b96d8a0/attachment.htm>

From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu May 28 14:05:01 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:05:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090528 changes
Message-ID: <20090528140501.4121D1F8217@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Thu May 28 06:15:03 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

kernel-2.6.29.4-167.fc11
------------------------
* Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-164
- drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855,
  and 865. It can be forced on with i915.modeset=1 boot parameter.

* Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-165
- Enable KMS/gem on I865.
- drm-no-gem-on-i8xx.patch: Remove I865 so GEM will be enabled.
- drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: Enable KMS on I865. 
- Two fixes from Eric Anholt to fix i8x5:
   drm-i915-apply-a-big-hammer-to-865-gem-object.patch
   drm-i915-fix-tiling-pitch.patch

* Wed May 27 2009 Kristian H??gsberg <krh at redhat.com> - 2.6.29.4-166
- Add drm-intel-set-domain-on-fault.patch to fix random gem object
  corruption when swapping (495323 and probably others).
- Enable kms on 845 and 855 as well, Erics tiling patch should fix
  those too.

* Wed May 27 2009 Kristian H??gsberg <krh at madara.bos.redhat.com> - 2.6.4.167
- Actually disable drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch.

* Tue May 26 2009 Ben Skeggs <bskeggs at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-163
- drm-nouveau.patch: fix sor dpms (rh#501877)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 1









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu May 28 14:18:54 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 10:18:54 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 RC1 installation testing
Message-ID: <1243520334.2797.60.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

Greetings testers,

A Fedora 11 RC1 was built by release engineering last night.  Per
discussion in the QA meeting [1], I have created a new wiki page for the
RC1 test run.  The plan is to:

     1. test the physical media tests (CD, DVD and live image) first
     2. then follow-up with verifying MODIFIED [1] bugs and previously
        failed tests [3]

If interested in validating the release candidate, I encourage you to
visit the wiki page
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC1_Install_Test_Results)
and record results from any installs you've completed using the RC1
bits.  Should any issues surface from your testing, let's run them
through the severity decoder ring
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend#Proposal_B:)
and consult https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs.  Please
continue to raise issues/concerns to the list.

Thanks,
James

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090527#How_to_model_RC1_test_results_wiki
[2] http://tinyurl.com/pqeq6n
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC0_Install_Test_Results
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/bad9dcc7/attachment.sig>

From mikem.rtp at gmail.com  Thu May 28 15:18:11 2009
From: mikem.rtp at gmail.com (Mike McLean)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:18:11 -0400
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4f50e0680905280818l2938d6efk433dd77befc83ebe@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Masood <masoodbeh at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to get a Dell M1330 with Intel GM965 ,using HDMI interface,
> connected to a Samsung TV (LA32B650). The connection works but I cannot get
> any better resolution than 1024x768 and I have HDMI Audio option in
> pulseaudio profiles, I have no sound. Has anyone got similar setup to work
> at native 1920x1080 resolution with audio? Also, if it is a problem with not
> detecting TV's modes, is there a way to manually set the resolution for a
> HDMI-connected device?

Did you ever get you HDMI audio working? I'm having a similar audio
problem with my setup (intel G33 chipset).



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Thu May 28 15:04:59 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:04:59 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 RC1 installation testing
In-Reply-To: <1243520334.2797.60.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1243520334.2797.60.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A1EA81B.7000001@cox.net>

On 05/28/2009 10:18 AM, James Laska wrote:
> Greetings testers,
>
> A Fedora 11 RC1 was built by release engineering last night.  Per
> discussion in the QA meeting [1], I have created a new wiki page for the
> RC1 test run.  The plan is to:
>
>       1. test the physical media tests (CD, DVD and live image) first
>       2. then follow-up with verifying MODIFIED [1] bugs and previously
>          failed tests [3]
>
> If interested in validating the release candidate, I encourage you to
> visit the wiki page
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC1_Install_Test_Results)
> and record results from any installs you've completed using the RC1
> bits.  Should any issues surface from your testing, let's run them
> through the severity decoder ring
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend#Proposal_B:)
> and consult https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs.  Please
> continue to raise issues/concerns to the list.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090527#How_to_model_RC1_test_results_wiki
> [2] http://tinyurl.com/pqeq6n
> [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC0_Install_Test_Results
>


Where can we get RC1?



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu May 28 15:28:40 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:28:40 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 RC1 installation testing
In-Reply-To: <4A1EA81B.7000001@cox.net>
References: <1243520334.2797.60.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<4A1EA81B.7000001@cox.net>
Message-ID: <1243524520.2797.70.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 11:04 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 05/28/2009 10:18 AM, James Laska wrote:
> > Greetings testers,
> >
> > A Fedora 11 RC1 was built by release engineering last night.  Per
> > discussion in the QA meeting [1], I have created a new wiki page for the
> > RC1 test run.  The plan is to:
> >
> >       1. test the physical media tests (CD, DVD and live image) first
> >       2. then follow-up with verifying MODIFIED [1] bugs and previously
> >          failed tests [3]
> >
> > If interested in validating the release candidate, I encourage you to
> > visit the wiki page
> > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC1_Install_Test_Results)
> > and record results from any installs you've completed using the RC1
> > bits.  Should any issues surface from your testing, let's run them
> > through the severity decoder ring
> > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/Bugzilla_Legend#Proposal_B:)
> > and consult https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs.  Please
> > continue to raise issues/concerns to the list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James
> >
> > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090527#How_to_model_RC1_test_results_wiki
> > [2] http://tinyurl.com/pqeq6n
> > [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC0_Install_Test_Results
> >
> 
> 
> Where can we get RC1?

I've buried the link under the "What to test" section -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC1_Install_Test_Results#What_To_Test

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/507a8e56/attachment.sig>

From paul-fedora at saturnine.org.uk  Thu May 28 16:10:32 2009
From: paul-fedora at saturnine.org.uk (Paul Black)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:10:32 +0100
Subject: Fedora 11 RC1 installation testing
In-Reply-To: <1243524520.2797.70.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1243520334.2797.60.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com> 
	<4A1EA81B.7000001@cox.net>
	<1243524520.2797.70.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <a9274eb10905280910x189ffbacmf4512cf4f34b13ed@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/28 James Laska wrote:
>
> > Where can we get RC1?
>
> I've buried the link under the "What to test" section -
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC1_Install_Test_Results#What_To_Test

Will these be available via rsync?

I've tried the instructions here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/Building_an_ISO_image_for_testing
and they don't work; "rsync rsync://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt" shows
the stage directory is not present.

--
Paul



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu May 28 16:22:31 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:22:31 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 RC1 installation testing
In-Reply-To: <a9274eb10905280910x189ffbacmf4512cf4f34b13ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1243520334.2797.60.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<4A1EA81B.7000001@cox.net>
	<1243524520.2797.70.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<a9274eb10905280910x189ffbacmf4512cf4f34b13ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243527751.2797.71.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 17:10 +0100, Paul Black wrote:
> 2009/5/28 James Laska wrote:
> >
> > > Where can we get RC1?
> >
> > I've buried the link under the "What to test" section -
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC1_Install_Test_Results#What_To_Test
> 
> Will these be available via rsync?
> 
> I've tried the instructions here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/Building_an_ISO_image_for_testing
> and they don't work; "rsync rsync://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt" shows
> the stage directory is not present.

Sorry, I don't believe these will be available for rsync.  My
understanding is they are made available for high-bandwith testers to
assist with release candidate validation.

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/238ce220/attachment.sig>

From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu May 28 16:26:32 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:26:32 -0700
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <20090514092728.630882f6@tomh>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<d58417910905140546y29e63e55o3a7fca3070967037@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090514092728.630882f6@tomh>
Message-ID: <1243527992.3037.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 09:27 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Thu, 14 May 2009 22:46:59 +1000
> Masood wrote:
> 
> > So it seems the problem only exists if I
> > plug in a HDMI cable when X has already started.
> 
> Definitely. You'll see the same thing with KVM
> switches. X has just gotta have the monitor
> connection when it starts now, there is no
> apparent way to convince it to just use the
> mode you want.
> 

This isn't true with Kernel Mode Setting anymore.  With KMS you do get
enough memory reserved to handle the largest resolution your card can
do, regardless of what was plugged in at the time X launched.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/078be1ff/attachment.sig>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 28 16:35:43 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:35:43 -0700
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 09:31 +0000, Matej Cepl wrote:

> > There doesn't seem to be a good page with step-by-step instructions for
> > F9 or F10 conversion, so I was vague.  Probably this will become less of
> > an issue as those versions are EOL'd anyway.
> 
> I hope upgrade from F9/F10 should work automagically.

To be precise, if you have no xorg.conf, F11 will use nouveau
automatically, assuming it's installed, which I think it should be
(Matej, it was installed by default on previous releases, right - just
not *used* by default?) If you have an xorg.conf remaining from a
previous release which specifies a particular driver (nvidia or nv),
that driver will continue to be used, F11 won't magically override your
xorg.conf.

> Much more interesting than how to install -{nv,nouveau} is how to get rid 
> of -nvidia goo which stays on the disk (unless rpm from The Repository 
> Which Shall Not Be Named is used, which quite often isn't). Mike Harris 
> my esteemed predecessor in Xorg bug triaging wrote a long piece on this 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xorg/3rd_Party_Video_Drivers (which 
> somebody cleaned up recently for English; thank you!).

I'm going to amend that slightly to explain *how* to uninstall
proprietary drivers, and try and explain in a roundabout way that it's
OK if you use TRWSNBN).
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 28 16:47:01 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:47:01 -0700
Subject: Proposed additions to release notes (was: Re: i686 ---> i586,
 i386 ---> i586, x86_64 stays the same)
In-Reply-To: <1243494560.5892.0.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <908614.55014.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<f6ca9fed0904051304u3cd434c7sc739375d5e32f152@mail.gmail.com>
	<49D92A44.1060206@googlemail.com>
	<1238976341.6415.129.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090406145748.GB1223@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
	<20090406150318.GH4537@tyan-ft48-01.lab.bos.redhat.com>
	<20090406151729.GE1223@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
	<1239734146.7274.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1239768611.3744.48.camel@ignacio.lan>
	<1239771584.7274.14.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1243494560.5892.0.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243529221.2937.158.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 03:09 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> Oops, this never made it into the release notes, so this is the next
> best place I could find:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#Can.27t_find_.i686_kernel

Please don't add issues which are not bugs to the Common Bugs page. As
Susan Lauber mentioned a few posts back, there are ways to add issues to
the live version of the Release Notes after release. Please do this,
Susan can help you if necessary. Once that's done, please remove this
from the Common Bugs page.

Additionally, the bit about a potential gotcha on yum upgrade should go
on the dedicated page for upgrading via yum:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#10-11
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu May 28 17:36:18 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 10:36:18 -0700
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
Message-ID: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>

A late discovered and just potentially fixed anaconda storage bug[1] has
necessitated another week slip of our schedule.  The change is important
but invasive enough to require re-validating our storage tests.  We were
already late in producing the Release Candidate and there is not enough
time to produce another one and validate it in time for next Tuesday's
release date.  Therefor we have decided to enact another week long slip
of the release.  This gives us time to create a second release candidate
and fully validate it and hand it off to the mirrors in plenty of time
to sync up for the new release date of June 9th.  As much as we regret
slipping, we also wish to avoid easily trigger-able bugs in our release,
particularly in software that cannot be fixed with a 0-day update.

At this time we would only accept tag requests for critical issues.

[1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500808

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/1b593ca5/attachment.sig>

From itamar at ispbrasil.com.br  Thu May 28 17:40:48 2009
From: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br (Itamar Reis Peixoto)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:40:48 -0300
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <d3ceea380905281040p3933d505l5e6f5946ad631dff@mail.gmail.com>

the anaconda storage is very buggy since fc11 beta 2

this really need's to be fixed.


On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:
> A late discovered and just potentially fixed anaconda storage bug[1] has
> necessitated another week slip of our schedule. ?The change is important
> but invasive enough to require re-validating our storage tests. ?We were
> already late in producing the Release Candidate and there is not enough
> time to produce another one and validate it in time for next Tuesday's
> release date. ?Therefor we have decided to enact another week long slip
> of the release. ?This gives us time to create a second release candidate
> and fully validate it and hand it off to the mirrors in plenty of time
> to sync up for the new release date of June 9th. ?As much as we regret
> slipping, we also wish to avoid easily trigger-able bugs in our release,
> particularly in software that cannot be fixed with a 0-day update.
>
> At this time we would only accept tag requests for critical issues.
>
> [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500808
>
> --
> Jesse Keating
> Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
> identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
------------

Itamar Reis Peixoto

e-mail/msn: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br
sip: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br
skype: itamarjp
icq: 81053601
+55 11 4063 5033
+55 34 3221 8599



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Thu May 28 17:54:00 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:54:00 +0300
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/28 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com>

> A late discovered and just potentially fixed anaconda storage bug[1] has
> necessitated another week slip of our schedule.  The change is important
> but invasive enough to require re-validating our storage tests.  We were
> already late in producing the Release Candidate and there is not enough
> time to produce another one and validate it in time for next Tuesday's
> release date.  Therefor we have decided to enact another week long slip
> of the release.  This gives us time to create a second release candidate
> and fully validate it and hand it off to the mirrors in plenty of time
> to sync up for the new release date of June 9th.


it would be very nice to announce the release candidates when they become
available.


> As much as we regret
> slipping, we also wish to avoid easily trigger-able bugs in our release,
> particularly in software that cannot be fixed with a 0-day update.
>
> At this time we would only accept tag requests for critical issues.
>
> [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500808
>
> --
> Jesse Keating
> Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
> identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/0db219d3/attachment.htm>

From mike at cchtml.com  Thu May 28 17:59:13 2009
From: mike at cchtml.com (Michael Cronenworth)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:59:13 -0500
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A1ED0F1.1020201@cchtml.com>

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
From: cornel panceac <cpanceac at gmail.com>
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases 
<fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
Date: 05/28/2009 12:54 PM

> 
> it would be very nice to announce the release candidates when they 
> become available.


If you wish to participate in testing Fedora, I suggest you join the 
fedora-test-list. The honourable James Laska has made such an 
announcement[1] just today.

[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg01272.html



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu May 28 18:07:08 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:07:08 -0700
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 20:54 +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> it would be very nice to announce the release candidates when they become
> available.
> 

We can't broadly announce them, as the RCs are not mirrored and piling
more people into trying to get access to the RCs would just make it that
much slower for the key people to get them in the first place.  If we
went to a mode where we could only do one RC a week and it was mirrored
and we had something like 3 months to get through RC phase that might
work, but I doubt our developers would appreciate that.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/eaf04768/attachment.sig>

From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu May 28 18:08:30 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:08:30 -0700
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243534110.3037.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 11:07 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 20:54 +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> > it would be very nice to announce the release candidates when they become
> > available.
> > 
> 
> We can't broadly announce them, as the RCs are not mirrored and piling
> more people into trying to get access to the RCs would just make it that
> much slower for the key people to get them in the first place.  If we
> went to a mode where we could only do one RC a week and it was mirrored
> and we had something like 3 months to get through RC phase that might
> work, but I doubt our developers would appreciate that.
> 

Forgot to mention, each night's rawhide is made up of the frozen
content, so by testing rawhide, you're essentially testing the RC.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/c9aa7008/attachment.sig>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 28 18:11:03 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:11:03 -0700
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <d3ceea380905281040p3933d505l5e6f5946ad631dff@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<d3ceea380905281040p3933d505l5e6f5946ad631dff@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243534263.2937.160.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 14:40 -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
> the anaconda storage is very buggy since fc11 beta 2
> 
> this really need's to be fixed.

That's...not a very useful statement. It's been buggy ever since it was
*completely rewritten* for the Fedora 11 cycle. Both the Anaconda
developers and the QA team are perfectly well aware of this; rewriting
such a fundamental chunk of code is _always_ going to introduce new
bugs, we knew this before the project was ever initiated. But we still
needed to rewrite the code, so there was nothing else to do.

Just saying "it's buggy, fix it!" doesn't help anyone. We know it's
buggy. We're working very hard on fixing it. Constructive input would be
one of:

1) reporting specific failures, with full information on them, and being
available to provide any further information and testing required
2) contributing fixes
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Thu May 28 18:13:38 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 23:43:38 +0530
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <89bdee5a0905281113g781fa6edg29836683f95cfd0a@mail.gmail.com>

> To be precise, if you have no xorg.conf, F11 will use nouveau
> automatically, assuming it's installed, which I think it should be
> (Matej, it was installed by default on previous releases, right - just
> not *used* by default?) If you have an xorg.conf remaining from a
> previous release which specifies a particular driver (nvidia or nv),
> that driver will continue to be used, F11 won't magically override your
> xorg.conf.

Atleast that's not what happened for me on a fresh F11 install with a
Nvidia GeForce 6150.
I got a 1024x768 stretched display with vesa. I had to manually create
a new xorg.conf from
the nouveau test day [1] and restart X. After that it worked fine.

This was a lxde only install that skipped firstboot if that is
significant. Manually running
system-config-display still came up with vesa at 1024x768 though.


[1]  https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/d9/Xorg.conf.nouveau

-- 
Gireesh



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Thu May 28 18:22:13 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 21:22:13 +0300
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1243534110.3037.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243534110.3037.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905281122p566f73a1j66ac2e5041ea3697@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/28 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com>

> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 11:07 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 20:54 +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> > > it would be very nice to announce the release candidates when they
> become
> > > available.
> > >
> >
> > We can't broadly announce them, as the RCs are not mirrored and piling
> > more people into trying to get access to the RCs would just make it that
> > much slower for the key people to get them in the first place.  If we
> > went to a mode where we could only do one RC a week and it was mirrored
> > and we had something like 3 months to get through RC phase that might
> > work, but I doubt our developers would appreciate that.
> >
>

i was thinking about torrent-only. limiting the audience means less testing.



> Forgot to mention, each night's rawhide is made up of the frozen
> content, so by testing rawhide, you're essentially testing the RC.


unfortunately for me i don't have the time xor resources to test each
boot.iso, as i'm sure you understand :)



>
> --
> Jesse Keating
> Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
> identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/beabc1ff/attachment.htm>

From cpanceac at gmail.com  Thu May 28 18:25:42 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 21:25:42 +0300
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <4A1ED0F1.1020201@cchtml.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A1ED0F1.1020201@cchtml.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905281125v6432d63ct3bb187889319862a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/28 Michael Cronenworth <mike at cchtml.com>

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
> From: cornel panceac <cpanceac at gmail.com>
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases <
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: 05/28/2009 12:54 PM
>
>
>> it would be very nice to announce the release candidates when they become
>> available.
>>
>
>
> If you wish to participate in testing Fedora, I suggest you join the
> fedora-test-list. The honourable James Laska has made such an
> announcement[1] just today.
>
> [1]
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg01272.html


to be honest, i've seen the message but i thought it was a testing report,
since ive not seen the "announce" part anywhere.

but i can agree to the fact that james laska and you all are honourable :)

>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/2bcd5704/attachment.htm>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 28 18:41:56 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:41:56 -0700
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <89bdee5a0905281113g781fa6edg29836683f95cfd0a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org> <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<89bdee5a0905281113g781fa6edg29836683f95cfd0a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243536116.2937.161.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 23:43 +0530, Gireesh wrote:
> > To be precise, if you have no xorg.conf, F11 will use nouveau
> > automatically, assuming it's installed, which I think it should be
> > (Matej, it was installed by default on previous releases, right - just
> > not *used* by default?) If you have an xorg.conf remaining from a
> > previous release which specifies a particular driver (nvidia or nv),
> > that driver will continue to be used, F11 won't magically override your
> > xorg.conf.
> 
> Atleast that's not what happened for me on a fresh F11 install with a
> Nvidia GeForce 6150.
> I got a 1024x768 stretched display with vesa. I had to manually create
> a new xorg.conf from
> the nouveau test day [1] and restart X. After that it worked fine.
> 
> This was a lxde only install that skipped firstboot if that is
> significant. Manually running
> system-config-display still came up with vesa at 1024x768 though.

We do specifically blacklist a few adapters to vesa instead of nouveau,
ones which have been reported to fail completely with nouveau. What's
the PCI ID of your graphics card, please? lspci -nn will tell you.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu May 28 18:44:55 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:44:55 -0700
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0905281122p566f73a1j66ac2e5041ea3697@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243534110.3037.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281122p566f73a1j66ac2e5041ea3697@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243536295.3037.35.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:22 +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> 
> 
> unfortunately for me i don't have the time xor resources to test each
> boot.iso, as i'm sure you understand :)
> 

You don't have the time to test the boot.iso, but you'd have time to
test the daily RCs?

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/7bac7159/attachment.sig>

From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Thu May 28 18:52:23 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 00:22:23 +0530
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <1243536116.2937.161.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<89bdee5a0905281113g781fa6edg29836683f95cfd0a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243536116.2937.161.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <89bdee5a0905281152l24aae2f6rc411e2fb12512e2a@mail.gmail.com>

> We do specifically blacklist a few adapters to vesa instead of nouveau,
> ones which have been reported to fail completely with nouveau. What's
> the PCI ID of your graphics card, please? lspci -nn will tell you.
> --

nVidia C51 [Geforce 6150 Go] [10de:0244] (rev a2)

My card has a problem with nouveau either on F10 or F11 except for
suspend/resume (as expected)

-- 
Gireesh



From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Thu May 28 18:56:34 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 00:26:34 +0530
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <89bdee5a0905281152l24aae2f6rc411e2fb12512e2a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<89bdee5a0905281113g781fa6edg29836683f95cfd0a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243536116.2937.161.camel@adam.local.net>
	<89bdee5a0905281152l24aae2f6rc411e2fb12512e2a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <89bdee5a0905281156x6c3e155m719b62449878eb63@mail.gmail.com>

> My card has a problem with nouveau either on F10 or F11 except for
> suspend/resume (as expected)

Sorry about that. That was supposed to read my card has *not* a
problem with nouveau.


-- 
Gireesh



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Thu May 28 19:00:49 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:00:49 +0300
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1243536295.3037.35.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243534110.3037.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281122p566f73a1j66ac2e5041ea3697@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243536295.3037.35.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905281200ra9fb547o7a28b9efd54e2aee@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/28 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com>

> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:22 +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> >
> >
> > unfortunately for me i don't have the time xor resources to test each
> > boot.iso, as i'm sure you understand :)
> >
>
> You don't have the time to test the boot.iso, but you'd have time to
> test the daily RCs?


daily? i thought there will be another one, only.
no, if there will be one rc per day i will not test them all.

>
>
> --
> Jesse Keating
> Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
> identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/a652c645/attachment.htm>

From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 28 19:04:38 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:04:38 -0700
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <89bdee5a0905281152l24aae2f6rc411e2fb12512e2a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org> <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<89bdee5a0905281113g781fa6edg29836683f95cfd0a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243536116.2937.161.camel@adam.local.net>
	<89bdee5a0905281152l24aae2f6rc411e2fb12512e2a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243537478.2937.173.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 00:22 +0530, Gireesh wrote:
> > We do specifically blacklist a few adapters to vesa instead of nouveau,
> > ones which have been reported to fail completely with nouveau. What's
> > the PCI ID of your graphics card, please? lspci -nn will tell you.
> > --
> 
> nVidia C51 [Geforce 6150 Go] [10de:0244] (rev a2)
> 
> My card has a problem with nouveau either on F10 or F11 except for
> suspend/resume (as expected)

Hmm. That's not blacklisted. Can you confirm that if you
rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X, you still get vesa? Can you
pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log in that case? Thanks.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From sgireeshmail at gmail.com  Thu May 28 19:08:58 2009
From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 00:38:58 +0530
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <1243537478.2937.173.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<89bdee5a0905281113g781fa6edg29836683f95cfd0a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243536116.2937.161.camel@adam.local.net>
	<89bdee5a0905281152l24aae2f6rc411e2fb12512e2a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243537478.2937.173.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <89bdee5a0905281208o37b75423qf80b7b4378c76da0@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 00:22 +0530, Gireesh wrote:
>> > We do specifically blacklist a few adapters to vesa instead of nouveau,
>> > ones which have been reported to fail completely with nouveau. What's
>> > the PCI ID of your graphics card, please? lspci -nn will tell you.
>> > --
>>
>> nVidia C51 [Geforce 6150 Go] [10de:0244] (rev a2)
>>
>> My card has a problem with nouveau either on F10 or F11 except for
>> suspend/resume (as expected)
>
> Hmm. That's not blacklisted. Can you confirm that if you
> rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X, you still get vesa? Can you
> pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log in that case? Thanks.
> --
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> http://www.happyassassin.net
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

I am at work right now and can get to the laptop only after some time.
But I will do something better. Open a bug report if I can reproduce
it.

-- 
Gireesh



From poelstra at redhat.com  Thu May 28 19:25:54 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:25:54 -0700
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A1EE542.9000703@redhat.com>

Jesse Keating said the following on 05/28/2009 10:36 AM Pacific Time:
> A late discovered and just potentially fixed anaconda storage bug[1] has
> necessitated another week slip of our schedule.  The change is important
> but invasive enough to require re-validating our storage tests.  We were
> already late in producing the Release Candidate and there is not enough
> time to produce another one and validate it in time for next Tuesday's
> release date.  Therefor we have decided to enact another week long slip
> of the release.  This gives us time to create a second release candidate
> and fully validate it and hand it off to the mirrors in plenty of time
> to sync up for the new release date of June 9th.  As much as we regret
> slipping, we also wish to avoid easily trigger-able bugs in our release,
> particularly in software that cannot be fixed with a 0-day update.
>
> At this time we would only accept tag requests for critical issues.
>
> [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500808
>
>

Forgive me for asking the obvious.... have we done a review of all the 
open anaconda bugs for 'rawhide' to make sure there are no other bugs 
already open for anaconda that could put us back into this same situation?

John



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu May 28 19:34:07 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:34:07 +0000
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243539247.2797.190.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 10:36 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> A late discovered and just potentially fixed anaconda storage bug[1] has
> necessitated another week slip of our schedule.  The change is important
> but invasive enough to require re-validating our storage tests.  We were
> already late in producing the Release Candidate and there is not enough
> time to produce another one and validate it in time for next Tuesday's
> release date.  Therefor we have decided to enact another week long slip
> of the release.  This gives us time to create a second release candidate
> and fully validate it and hand it off to the mirrors in plenty of time
> to sync up for the new release date of June 9th.  As much as we regret
> slipping, we also wish to avoid easily trigger-able bugs in our release,
> particularly in software that cannot be fixed with a 0-day update.
> 
> At this time we would only accept tag requests for critical issues.
> 
> [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500808

Does "critical issues" mean reviewed and approved F11Blocker bugs?

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/30c3faae/attachment.sig>

From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu May 28 19:44:04 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:44:04 +0000
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <4A1ED0F1.1020201@cchtml.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A1ED0F1.1020201@cchtml.com>
Message-ID: <1243539844.2797.196.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:59 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
> From: cornel panceac <cpanceac at gmail.com>
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases 
> <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: 05/28/2009 12:54 PM
> 
> > 
> > it would be very nice to announce the release candidates when they 
> > become available.
> 
> 
> If you wish to participate in testing Fedora, I suggest you join the 
> fedora-test-list. The honourable James Laska has made such an 
> announcement[1] just today.

Heh, thanks for your kind words Michael.

> [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg01272.html

There will likely be an update to that wiki page once a new release
candidate lands.  I'll follow up with an announcement with some
pointers.  

While any testing is valuable, additional testing with emphasis on the
installer storage layer will likely be needed once release engineering
hands off the RC2 build.

Thanks,
James
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/9a10c2d4/attachment.sig>

From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu May 28 20:52:12 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:52:12 -0700
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1243539247.2797.190.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243539247.2797.190.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1243543932.3037.38.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 19:34 +0000, James Laska wrote:
> Does "critical issues" mean reviewed and approved F11Blocker bugs?

Yes, that's a valid interpretation.  Case in point a bug was just fixed
that would lock up intel video cards if an Xv window (totem, mplayer, et
al) was made fullscreen.  We accepted that bugfix.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/2bb7f9c6/attachment.sig>

From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Thu May 28 21:20:35 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:20:35 +0100
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1243534263.2937.160.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<d3ceea380905281040p3933d505l5e6f5946ad631dff@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243534263.2937.160.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0905281420k4fa49b33v6981d6118cfff06b@mail.gmail.com>

>> the anaconda storage is very buggy since fc11 beta 2
>>
>> this really need's to be fixed.
>
> That's...not a very useful statement. It's been buggy ever since it was
> *completely rewritten* for the Fedora 11 cycle. Both the Anaconda
> developers and the QA team are perfectly well aware of this; rewriting
> such a fundamental chunk of code is _always_ going to introduce new
> bugs, we knew this before the project was ever initiated. But we still
> needed to rewrite the code, so there was nothing else to do.
>
> Just saying "it's buggy, fix it!" doesn't help anyone. We know it's
> buggy. We're working very hard on fixing it. Constructive input would be
> one of:

I agree to a point. It seems to me on a number of occasions over the
history of Fedora anaconda has been the reason for release slips. I
reported a number of bugs (or added my details to a number of bugs)
for custom disk installations and even though they've been reported
(beta or even alpha stage) they're still not fixed.

Anaconda definitely needs massive re-writes but I would expect that to
land by the alpha rather than having pretty decent fixes still coming
in after the preview release and hence the delays that have come with
that. Not reporting fairly major bugs in the beta and still not having
them closed now having read comments like "custom installs to single
partitions aren't normal use cases".

Peter



From tgl at redhat.com  Thu May 28 21:23:02 2009
From: tgl at redhat.com (Tom Lane)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:23:02 -0400
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release 
In-Reply-To: <1243539844.2797.196.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com> 
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A1ED0F1.1020201@cchtml.com>
	<1243539844.2797.196.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <644.1243545782@sss.pgh.pa.us>

James Laska <jlaska at redhat.com> writes:
> While any testing is valuable, additional testing with emphasis on the
> installer storage layer will likely be needed once release engineering
> hands off the RC2 build.

Is that anaconda fix in rawhide now?

			regards, tom lane



From wwoods at redhat.com  Thu May 28 21:42:46 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:42:46 -0400
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <644.1243545782@sss.pgh.pa.us>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A1ED0F1.1020201@cchtml.com>
	<1243539844.2797.196.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<644.1243545782@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Message-ID: <1243546966.3107.0.camel@metroid>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 17:23 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> James Laska <jlaska at redhat.com> writes:
> > While any testing is valuable, additional testing with emphasis on the
> > installer storage layer will likely be needed once release engineering
> > hands off the RC2 build.
> 
> Is that anaconda fix in rawhide now?

Not yet. It was only built an hour or two ago. It'll appear in
tomorrow's rawhide. 

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=103967

-w



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu May 28 22:08:52 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:08:52 -0700
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0905281420k4fa49b33v6981d6118cfff06b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<d3ceea380905281040p3933d505l5e6f5946ad631dff@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243534263.2937.160.camel@adam.local.net>
	<5256d0b0905281420k4fa49b33v6981d6118cfff06b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243548532.2937.178.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 22:20 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:

> Anaconda definitely needs massive re-writes but I would expect that to
> land by the alpha

The rewrite landed a long time ago.

>  rather than having pretty decent fixes still coming
> in after the preview release and hence the delays that have come with
> that. 

The fixes are fixes for issues that have been reported *since the
rewrite landed*. The Anaconda team has been working flat out on nothing
but fixing reports on issues reported since the landing of the rewrite,
which itself was landed as early in the cycle as possible.

> Not reporting fairly major bugs in the beta and still not having
> them closed now having read comments like "custom installs to single
> partitions aren't normal use cases".

Unfortunately, there's not enough manpower in the anaconda team to fix
all the reported issues in time for release, hence the most important
ones get the focus.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 28 22:13:16 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:13:16 -0400
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0905281125v6432d63ct3bb187889319862a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>	<4A1ED0F1.1020201@cchtml.com>
	<db64ccf0905281125v6432d63ct3bb187889319862a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A1F0C7C.5080102@sbcglobal.net>

On 05/28/2009 02:25 PM, cornel panceac wrote:
>
>
> 2009/5/28 Michael Cronenworth <mike at cchtml.com <mailto:mike at cchtml.com>>
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
>     From: cornel panceac <cpanceac at gmail.com <mailto:cpanceac at gmail.com>>
>     To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>     <fedora-test-list at redhat.com <mailto:fedora-test-list at redhat.com>>
>     Date: 05/28/2009 12:54 PM
>
>
>         it would be very nice to announce the release candidates when
>         they become available.
>
>
>
>     If you wish to participate in testing Fedora, I suggest you join
>     the fedora-test-list. The honourable James Laska has made such an
>     announcement[1] just today.
>
>     [1]
>     https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg01272.html
>
>
> to be honest, i've seen the message but i thought it was a testing 
> report, since ive not seen the "announce" part anywhere.
>
> but i can agree to the fact that james laska and you all are honourable :)
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     fedora-test-list mailing list
>     fedora-test-list at redhat.com <mailto:fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>     To unsubscribe:
>     https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Linux counter #213090
Release schedule:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/0cf8c0e2/attachment.htm>

From cra at WPI.EDU  Thu May 28 22:17:05 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:17:05 -0400
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <1243543932.3037.38.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243539247.2797.190.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<1243543932.3037.38.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090528221705.GF30913@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 01:52:12PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 19:34 +0000, James Laska wrote:
> > Does "critical issues" mean reviewed and approved F11Blocker bugs?
> 
> Yes, that's a valid interpretation.  Case in point a bug was just fixed
> that would lock up intel video cards if an Xv window (totem, mplayer, et
> al) was made fullscreen.  We accepted that bugfix.

The ATI cards aren't in much better shape these days.  I think lately 
the balance for "preferred Fedora video card" is tipped more in the 
Intel direction, however, since there seem to be fewer issues and more 
bugfixes coming more quickly for the issues they do have.



From poelstra at redhat.com  Thu May 28 22:23:56 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:23:56 -0700
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A1F0EFC.1090202@redhat.com>

Jesse Keating said the following on 05/28/2009 11:07 AM Pacific Time:
> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 20:54 +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
>> it would be very nice to announce the release candidates when they become
>> available.
>>
>
> We can't broadly announce them, as the RCs are not mirrored and piling
> more people into trying to get access to the RCs would just make it that
> much slower for the key people to get them in the first place.  If we
> went to a mode where we could only do one RC a week and it was mirrored
> and we had something like 3 months to get through RC phase that might
> work, but I doubt our developers would appreciate that.
>
>

I realize this has been the party line for a long time and I've also 
been told that many Fedora decisions cannot be measured and that we "go 
with our gut." ;-)

My gut keeps telling me that given all the smart, innovative people we 
have that we should be able to fix this issue.  In most areas of Fedora 
we place a heavy emphasis on making things accessible to everyone 
instead of just the "key people", particularly when it comes to content 
that can be tested.

We've gone down the road before of saying rawhide is equal to the RC, 
but we've also found that not to be the case and it hurt us. 
Additionally, if we go with with what is being proposed here:
 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_Fedora_Development_Cycle_2009
won't we be another step removed from being able to use rawhide this way 
for Fedora 12?

If our current process isn't working to involve everyone in testing the 
most important bits (RC), why can't we explore more ways to fix it or 
have a FAD for it?  Ideas like:
1) Changing the structure of our release schedule and test releases so 
RCs can get broad testing?
2) Changing the amount of last minute package changes?
3) Spending part of the FAD (scheduled above) for brainstorming ways to 
explore this issue?
4) Not being so concerned about "holding up the developers"
   --developers are an extremely important part of our releases because 
without them there wouldn't be any content to release :)  No, I'm not 
advocating doing RCs for three months (one week might be a great place 
to start), but I think other parts of the Fedora community, including 
our end users should be considered too.
5) Define "What is Fedora" and who our target audience is so we can 
address #4 in a proper way (I realize the Board owns this and started 
discussing it in January).  If it turns out that our releases are all 
for developers then not holding up developers will be a key concern :)

I think it is more accurate to say that fixing the issue of making the 
RCs available to everyone is not a priority versus saying we can't.

John



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu May 28 22:40:21 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:40:21 -0700
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <4A1F0EFC.1090202@redhat.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1F0EFC.1090202@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1243550421.3037.67.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 15:23 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_Fedora_Development_Cycle_2009
> won't we be another step removed from being able to use rawhide this way 
> for Fedora 12?

No, we'd essentially have two rawhides.  One that is the next release,
one that is the pending release.  Both would be composed with
installable images nightly.

> 
> If our current process isn't working to involve everyone in testing the 
> most important bits (RC), why can't we explore more ways to fix it or 
> have a FAD for it?  Ideas like:
> 1) Changing the structure of our release schedule and test releases so 
> RCs can get broad testing?
> 2) Changing the amount of last minute package changes?
> 3) Spending part of the FAD (scheduled above) for brainstorming ways to 
> explore this issue?
> 4) Not being so concerned about "holding up the developers"
>    --developers are an extremely important part of our releases because 
> without them there wouldn't be any content to release :)  No, I'm not 
> advocating doing RCs for three months (one week might be a great place 
> to start), but I think other parts of the Fedora community, including 
> our end users should be considered too.
> 5) Define "What is Fedora" and who our target audience is so we can 
> address #4 in a proper way (I realize the Board owns this and started 
> discussing it in January).  If it turns out that our releases are all 
> for developers then not holding up developers will be a key concern :)
> 
> I think it is more accurate to say that fixing the issue of making the 
> RCs available to everyone is not a priority versus saying we can't.

Sure, however you want to put it.  Right now it's not feasable to try
and get 34G worth of content into the hands of the entire world in a
reasonable enough time for that content to be of any value.  Typically
by the time we hit RC stage, we're verifying that the blocker bugs were
fixed and that the particular compose didn't break anything.  We can
typically do that within a few hours of the compose being finished, and
if it's broken, we spin a new one, in about an hour or 2.

Now, if you want to go to a mode where the last RC we compose gets
mirrored and we sit on it for a week plus, just so that the world feels
better about having participated, we can do that.  But anything found is
going to introduce at least a week slip of the schedule, in order to
fix, verify, produce an RC and let it soak for another week.  That's
just entirely too long of a wait cycle for Fedora's 6 month development
and release cycle.

You're right, it's not a high priority (at least not mine) to try and
"fix" this.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/63efd5ab/attachment.sig>

From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 29 05:23:24 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:53:24 +0530
Subject: rawhide report: 20090528 changes
In-Reply-To: <20090528140501.4121D1F8217@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
References: <20090528140501.4121D1F8217@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A1F714C.80905@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/28/2009 07:35 PM, Rawhide Report wrote:
> Compose started at Thu May 28 06:15:03 UTC 2009
> 
> Updated Packages:
> 
> kernel-2.6.29.4-167.fc11
> ------------------------
> * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-164
> - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855,
>   and 865. It can be forced on with i915.modeset=1 boot parameter.
> 
> * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-165
> - Enable KMS/gem on I865.
> - drm-no-gem-on-i8xx.patch: Remove I865 so GEM will be enabled.
> - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: Enable KMS on I865. 
> - Two fixes from Eric Anholt to fix i8x5:
>    drm-i915-apply-a-big-hammer-to-865-gem-object.patch
>    drm-i915-fix-tiling-pitch.patch
> 
> * Wed May 27 2009 Kristian H?gsberg <krh at redhat.com> - 2.6.29.4-166
> - Add drm-intel-set-domain-on-fault.patch to fix random gem object
>   corruption when swapping (495323 and probably others).
> - Enable kms on 845 and 855 as well, Erics tiling patch should fix
>   those too.
> 
> * Wed May 27 2009 Kristian H?gsberg <krh at madara.bos.redhat.com> - 2.6.4.167
> - Actually disable drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch.

Seems a lot of back and forth. What's going on? Can someone tell me the
final state of expected behaviour is various cards? It would be useful
to point users to this.

Rahul



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Fri May 29 05:52:46 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:52:46 -0700
Subject: kde 4.3 beta1
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905282252i4cd9076bq805ef1f30935b4aa@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

I understand that the priority right now is to get Fedora 11 out the door
which includes smashing the blocker bugs first...

I was curious if kde4.1 beta1 might be something coming to updates-testing
or will it be something coming to Fedora12???

Sincerely yours,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090528/707aaaad/attachment.htm>

From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 29 06:42:12 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:12:12 +0530
Subject: kde 4.3 beta1
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10905282252i4cd9076bq805ef1f30935b4aa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905282252i4cd9076bq805ef1f30935b4aa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A1F83C4.9020902@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/29/2009 11:22 AM, Rob Healey wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> I understand that the priority right now is to get Fedora 11 out the
> door which includes smashing the blocker bugs first...
> 
> I was curious if kde4.1 beta1 might be something coming to
> updates-testing or will it be something coming to Fedora12???

KDE 4.1? If you mean 4.2 beta, it is in the http://kde-redhat.sf.net run
by the Fedora KDE team.

Some discussions at

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedora-kde/2009-May/002609.html

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 29 06:45:11 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:15:11 +0530
Subject: kde 4.3 beta1
In-Reply-To: <4A1F83C4.9020902@fedoraproject.org>
References: <a1b313a10905282252i4cd9076bq805ef1f30935b4aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A1F83C4.9020902@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4A1F8477.9060206@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/29/2009 12:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/29/2009 11:22 AM, Rob Healey wrote:
>> Greetings:
>>
>> I understand that the priority right now is to get Fedora 11 out the
>> door which includes smashing the blocker bugs first...
>>
>> I was curious if kde4.1 beta1 might be something coming to
>> updates-testing or will it be something coming to Fedora12???
> 
> KDE 4.1? If you mean 4.2 beta, it is in the http://kde-redhat.sf.net run
> by the Fedora KDE team.

KDE 4.3 of course. I see there is a confusion between the subject and
the content versions.

Rahul



From thomasj at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 29 07:45:15 2009
From: thomasj at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Janssen)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:45:15 +0200
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <20090528221705.GF30913@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243539247.2797.190.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<1243543932.3037.38.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090528221705.GF30913@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <e2c721b0905290045n2d399233nd4f0b313d7ff4925@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/29 Chuck Anderson <cra at wpi.edu>:
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 01:52:12PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 19:34 +0000, James Laska wrote:
>> > Does "critical issues" mean reviewed and approved F11Blocker bugs?
>>
>> Yes, that's a valid interpretation. ?Case in point a bug was just fixed
>> that would lock up intel video cards if an Xv window (totem, mplayer, et
>> al) was made fullscreen. ?We accepted that bugfix.
>
> The ATI cards aren't in much better shape these days. ?I think lately
> the balance for "preferred Fedora video card" is tipped more in the
> Intel direction, however, since there seem to be fewer issues and more
> bugfixes coming more quickly for the issues they do have.

Very subjective and has nothing to do with the topic. That was just an example.

-- 
LG Thomas

Dubium sapientiae initium



From fedora at leemhuis.info  Fri May 29 08:01:19 2009
From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:01:19 +0200
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <4A1F0EFC.1090202@redhat.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>	<1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1F0EFC.1090202@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A1F964F.2000905@leemhuis.info>

On 29.05.2009 00:23, John Poelstra wrote:
> [...]
> I think it is more accurate to say that fixing the issue of making the 
> RCs available to everyone is not a priority versus saying we can't.

Just a short comment: Years ago someone made daily RCs avilable via an
Rsync server. Thus it was very easy to get the latest RC -- you just
rsynced the installer ISO you already had using rsync. As only small
parts of the ISO changed from day to day it was just a few minutes task
even with an not that fast internet connection.

I haven't checked if that still works, but I guess it would. Of course
not with the Live spins, as they are compressed and thus everything
changes all the time. But maybe we could offer them as uncompressed
images somewhere -- you could still test them using USB-Sticks, DVDs, or
with visualization solutions like KVM, Qemu, and Virtual-Box.

CU
knurd



From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Fri May 29 12:52:06 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:52:06 +1000
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <4f50e0680905280818l2938d6efk433dd77befc83ebe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4f50e0680905280818l2938d6efk433dd77befc83ebe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d58417910905290552l2a8b40d9g10b28257dfbef592@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Mike McLean <mikem.rtp at gmail.com> wrote:

> Did you ever get you HDMI audio working? I'm having a similar audio
> problem with my setup (intel G33 chipset).
>

Nope. I'm still working on it and will let you know if I find a solution for
it.

Regards,
Masood
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090529/a2999e8f/attachment.htm>

From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Fri May 29 13:01:29 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 23:01:29 +1000
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <1243527992.3037.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<d58417910905140546y29e63e55o3a7fca3070967037@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090514092728.630882f6@tomh>
	<1243527992.3037.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <d58417910905290601p70367214jfc80b0ea74784920@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:

> This isn't true with Kernel Mode Setting anymore.  With KMS you do get
> enough memory reserved to handle the largest resolution your card can
> do, regardless of what was plugged in at the time X launched.
>
>
As I mentioned, I don't think the problem is with X not having enough memory
for largest resolution, but not reading resolution information when you
hot-plug a HDMI connection (or maybe other interface types). If I manually
add the modelines using xrandr, it just works.

Regards,
Masood
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090529/92ba4c96/attachment.htm>

From mcepl at redhat.com  Fri May 29 13:10:38 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:10:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org> <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <gvomse$vcd$2@ger.gmane.org>

Adam Williamson, Thu, 28 May 2009 09:35:43 -0700:
> (Matej, it was installed by default on previous releases, right - just
> not *used* by default?)

Yeah, we install everything per default ... including drivers for things 
which nobody ever seen working for years.

> previous release which specifies a particular driver (nvidia or nv),
> that driver will continue to be used, F11 won't magically override your
> xorg.conf.

Yes, that's correct.

> I'm going to amend that slightly to explain *how* to uninstall
> proprietary drivers, and try and explain in a roundabout way that it's
> OK if you use TRWSNBN).

Thanks a lot!

Mat?j



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri May 29 13:19:31 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 07:19:31 -0600
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <gvomse$vcd$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org> <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<gvomse$vcd$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1243603171.3530.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 13:10 +0000, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Adam Williamson, Thu, 28 May 2009 09:35:43 -0700:
> > (Matej, it was installed by default on previous releases, right - just
> > not *used* by default?)
> 
> Yeah, we install everything per default ... including drivers for things 
> which nobody ever seen working for years.
> 
> > previous release which specifies a particular driver (nvidia or nv),
> > that driver will continue to be used, F11 won't magically override your
> > xorg.conf.
> 
> Yes, that's correct.
> 
> > I'm going to amend that slightly to explain *how* to uninstall
> > proprietary drivers, and try and explain in a roundabout way that it's
> > OK if you use TRWSNBN).
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> Mat?j
> 
How are you coming with the mouse problem?  Just asking, we are
creatures of adaptation.:-)
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>




From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 29 13:37:24 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:37:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090529 changes
Message-ID: <20090529133724.F0FA71F821C@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri May 29 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

anaconda-11.5.0.57-1.fc11
-------------------------
* Thu May 28 2009 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> - 11.5.0.57-1
- Create and use unique ids for Device instances. (#500808) (dlehman)
- Adjust remaining PartitionDevices' names after removing a partition.
  (dlehman)


xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-7.fc11
-------------------------------
* Thu May 28 2009 <krh at redhat.com> - 2.7.0-7
- Add intel-2.7-dont-vsync-xv.patch to disable Xv vsync, fixes hw
  lockup for full screen Xv (#499895)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 2









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From mikem.rtp at gmail.com  Fri May 29 13:48:59 2009
From: mikem.rtp at gmail.com (Mike McLean)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:48:59 -0400
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <d58417910905290601p70367214jfc80b0ea74784920@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com> 
	<d58417910905140546y29e63e55o3a7fca3070967037@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20090514092728.630882f6@tomh>
	<1243527992.3037.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<d58417910905290601p70367214jfc80b0ea74784920@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4f50e0680905290648q49088a7aw1b342ffd90d77213@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Masood <masoodbeh at gmail.com> wrote:
> As I mentioned, I don't think the problem is with X not having enough memory
> for largest resolution, but not reading resolution information when you
> hot-plug a HDMI connection (or maybe other interface types). If I manually
> add the modelines using xrandr, it just works.

I actually had to disable KMS for my chipset (Intel G33). Worked fine
for some outputs, but totally broke hdmi (in a no picture at all kind
of way) [1].

Like most televisions, mine gives crappy edid info, so I ended up
having to use an xorg.conf for force things a bit. Now if only I could
get 1080i to work [2].

I just got sound over hdmi working last night. I just had to pass the
right model to the sound driver. [3]

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496772
[2] http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11220
[3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502890



From mcepl at redhat.com  Fri May 29 14:09:42 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:09:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org> <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<gvomse$vcd$2@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243603171.3530.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <gvoqb6$vcd$5@ger.gmane.org>

Lawrence E. Graves, Fri, 29 May 2009 07:19:31 -0600:
> How are you coming with the mouse problem?  Just asking, we are
> creatures of adaptation.:-)

Sorry, don't understand.

Mat?j



From bob at fedoraunity.org  Fri May 29 14:01:56 2009
From: bob at fedoraunity.org (Robert 'Bob' Jensen)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:01:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <30010127.33271243605665473.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>
Message-ID: <13601312.33291243605716049.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>


----- "Thorsten Leemhuis" <fedora at leemhuis.info> wrote:
> Just a short comment: Years ago someone made daily RCs avilable via
> an
> Rsync server. Thus it was very easy to get the latest RC -- you just
> rsynced the installer ISO you already had using rsync. As only small
> parts of the ISO changed from day to day it was just a few minutes
> task
> even with an not that fast internet connection.
> 
> I haven't checked if that still works, but I guess it would. Of
> course
> not with the Live spins, as they are compressed and thus everything
> changes all the time. But maybe we could offer them as uncompressed
> images somewhere -- you could still test them using USB-Sticks, DVDs,
> or
> with visualization solutions like KVM, Qemu, and Virtual-Box.
> 

Jigdo would work also to minimise what is download for each RC. 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
|       Robert 'Bob' Jensen        ||       Fedora Unity Founder       |
|       bob at fedoraunity.org        ||      http://fedoraunity.org/     |
|                   http://bjensen.fedorapeople.org/                   |
|                http://blogs.fedoraunity.org/bobjensen                |
------------------------------------------------------------------------



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri May 29 14:35:53 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 08:35:53 -0600
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <gvoqb6$vcd$5@ger.gmane.org>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org> <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<gvomse$vcd$2@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243603171.3530.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gvoqb6$vcd$5@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1243607753.3530.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 14:09 +0000, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Lawrence E. Graves, Fri, 29 May 2009 07:19:31 -0600:
> > How are you coming with the mouse problem?  Just asking, we are
> > creatures of adaptation.:-)
> 
> Sorry, don't understand.
> 
> Mat?j
> 
I am the guy who sent the bug about the mouse that wouldn't change from
left to the right-handed use. You ask for my log files and then sent me
some instruction for me to perform trying to narrow down the possible
problem.  I know you are very busy right now with the intended RC in a
few days so if this has slipped your mind, I truly understand.  I can
wait until the release of RC.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502129
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>




From beland at alum.mit.edu  Fri May 29 14:59:08 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:59:08 -0400
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <1243607753.3530.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org> <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<gvomse$vcd$2@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243603171.3530.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gvoqb6$vcd$5@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243607753.3530.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243609148.11219.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 08:35 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502129

That bug is actually waiting for more diagnostic information from you,
Lawrence.  (And I'm not sure the developer working on the bug is
actually reading this mailing list.)

-B.



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri May 29 15:09:47 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:09:47 -0600
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <1243609148.11219.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org> <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<gvomse$vcd$2@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243603171.3530.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gvoqb6$vcd$5@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243607753.3530.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243609148.11219.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243609787.3530.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>




On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:59 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 08:35 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502129
> 
> That bug is actually waiting for more diagnostic information from you,
> Lawrence.  (And I'm not sure the developer working on the bug is
> actually reading this mailing list.)
> 
> -B.

I don't see how they are waiting on me, I've sent them two log files of
my computer.  If there is more information needed from me, let me know,
I'll be glad to give it.  I want to be apart of the solution and not the
problem.  Thank you for your response to this matter. Is there another
place I need to send the needed information?
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Fri May 29 15:44:43 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:44:43 -0400
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <1243609787.3530.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org> <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<gvomse$vcd$2@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243603171.3530.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gvoqb6$vcd$5@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243607753.3530.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243609148.11219.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1243609787.3530.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243611883.11219.7.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 09:09 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> I don't see how they are waiting on me, I've sent them two log files of
> my computer.  If there is more information needed from me, let me know,
> I'll be glad to give it.  I want to be apart of the solution and not the
> problem.  Thank you for your response to this matter. Is there another
> place I need to send the needed information?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502129

Visit the bug above and scroll down to the bottom of the page; you'll
see the question asked.  You should be getting an e-mail every time this
bug is updated; the bug page is the right place to answer questions or
add new information.

-B.



From laubersm at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 29 15:50:35 2009
From: laubersm at fedoraproject.org (Susan Lauber)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:50:35 -0400
Subject: Proposed additions to release notes (was: Re: i686 ---> i586, 
	i386 ---> i586, x86_64 stays the same)
In-Reply-To: <1243529221.2937.158.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <908614.55014.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1238976341.6415.129.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090406145748.GB1223@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
	<20090406150318.GH4537@tyan-ft48-01.lab.bos.redhat.com>
	<20090406151729.GE1223@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
	<1239734146.7274.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1239768611.3744.48.camel@ignacio.lan>
	<1239771584.7274.14.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1243494560.5892.0.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1243529221.2937.158.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <e1cf1c3a0905290850s6a4b82d7yd6f89feb8a7cb73a@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 03:09 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
>> Oops, this never made it into the release notes, so this is the next
>> best place I could find:
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#Can.27t_find_.i686_kernel
>
> Please don't add issues which are not bugs to the Common Bugs page. As
> Susan Lauber mentioned a few posts back, there are ways to add issues to
> the live version of the Release Notes after release. Please do this,
> Susan can help you if necessary. Once that's done, please remove this
> from the Common Bugs page.

In general to get something added to release notes once we pull the
first cut from the wiki and into XML for translations (around beta
release), the best way is to file a bug in Fedora - Fedora
Documentation - release-notes

The release schedule does still have a 0-zero day update cycle - You
will have to check with John for what criteria gets accepted for that
update and how that has changed with the release slips.

Several of the Docs team members lurk on this list, but I know my
response time is much faster to bugzilla emails and the
fedora-docs-list.

I hope that helps,
-Susan


>
> Additionally, the bit about a potential gotcha on yum upgrade should go
> on the dedicated page for upgrading via yum:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#10-11
> --
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> http://www.happyassassin.net
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Susan Lauber, (RHCX, RHCA, RHCSS)
Lauber System Solutions, Inc.
http://www.laubersolutions.com
gpg: 15AC F794 A3D9 64D1 D9CE  4C26 EFC3 11C2 BFA1 0974



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri May 29 15:59:38 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:59:38 -0600
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
In-Reply-To: <1243611883.11219.7.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org> <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<gvomse$vcd$2@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243603171.3530.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gvoqb6$vcd$5@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243607753.3530.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243609148.11219.4.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1243609787.3530.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243611883.11219.7.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243612778.3530.20.camel@localhost.localdomain>





On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:44 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 09:09 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> > I don't see how they are waiting on me, I've sent them two log files of
> > my computer.  If there is more information needed from me, let me know,
> > I'll be glad to give it.  I want to be apart of the solution and not the
> > problem.  Thank you for your response to this matter. Is there another
> > place I need to send the needed information?
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502129
> 
> Visit the bug above and scroll down to the bottom of the page; you'll
> see the question asked.  You should be getting an e-mail every time this
> bug is updated; the bug page is the right place to answer questions or
> add new information.
> 
> -B.
> 
--


I believe I'll get the order of things right one day.  It will be people
like you who will be instrumental in that taking place.  I did as you
asked.  Thanks again. 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 29 16:11:27 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:11:27 -0700
Subject: rawhide report: 20090528 changes
In-Reply-To: <4A1F714C.80905@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20090528140501.4121D1F8217@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<4A1F714C.80905@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1243613487.2937.189.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/28/2009 07:35 PM, Rawhide Report wrote:
> > Compose started at Thu May 28 06:15:03 UTC 2009
> > 
> > Updated Packages:
> > 
> > kernel-2.6.29.4-167.fc11
> > ------------------------
> > * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-164
> > - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855,
> >   and 865. It can be forced on with i915.modeset=1 boot parameter.
> > 
> > * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-165
> > - Enable KMS/gem on I865.
> > - drm-no-gem-on-i8xx.patch: Remove I865 so GEM will be enabled.
> > - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: Enable KMS on I865. 
> > - Two fixes from Eric Anholt to fix i8x5:
> >    drm-i915-apply-a-big-hammer-to-865-gem-object.patch
> >    drm-i915-fix-tiling-pitch.patch
> > 
> > * Wed May 27 2009 Kristian H?gsberg <krh at redhat.com> - 2.6.29.4-166
> > - Add drm-intel-set-domain-on-fault.patch to fix random gem object
> >   corruption when swapping (495323 and probably others).
> > - Enable kms on 845 and 855 as well, Erics tiling patch should fix
> >   those too.
> > 
> > * Wed May 27 2009 Kristian H?gsberg <krh at madara.bos.redhat.com> - 2.6.4.167
> > - Actually disable drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch.
> 
> Seems a lot of back and forth. What's going on? Can someone tell me the
> final state of expected behaviour is various cards? It would be useful
> to point users to this.

I was going to explain yesterday and then decided I shouldn't - guess I
should have :)

This mostly relates to bug 502077, filed on May 21st (so quite late in
cycle). Intel i865 cards were experiencing random hangs with kernel
modesetting enabled (which was the default). There was a single
unconfirmed report of the same issue affect i845, and another single
unconfirmed report for i855.

Since it was so late in the cycle and it felt like every time we zapped
one KMS bug, another popped up to take its place, QA team / RelEng, at a
blocker meeting, recommended disabling KMS for i865 chips. Kyle came in
to make this change, and he (along with the other intel/kernel devs)
decided to disable KMS for i845 and i855 as well because of the other
reports (I think they were under the impression it was more certain that
i845 / i855 also suffered from this issue). That's -164.

Kristian wasn't happy with this approach, and preferred to try and fix
the real bug. Together with Kyle, he identified a potential fix, and
built a kernel with that fix included and KMS re-enabled on i865 (that's
-165) and got testing for it. A couple of i865 users confirmed that it
fixed their issue.

We then discussed it a bit further and I explained that we'd only one
one unconfirmed report of hangs for both i845 and i855, and I'd actually
actively asked other users of those chips if they were experiencing
hangs and they'd said no. So we decided that, as it was unclear whether
i845 and i855 had really ever suffered from this exact issue, and the
patch should fix it for them as well as i865 even if they did, we should
go ahead and re-enable KMS for all three chipsets (that's -166 and
-167).

So, from 163 to 167, the sum total of changes was really just the
addition of the patch to fix the hanging problem (and also
drm-intel-set-domain-on-fault.patch , which is for another bug that we
considered critical).
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jkeating at j2solutions.net  Fri May 29 16:25:17 2009
From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:25:17 -0700
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <4A1F964F.2000905@leemhuis.info>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1F0EFC.1090202@redhat.com>  <4A1F964F.2000905@leemhuis.info>
Message-ID: <1243614317.3037.122.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:01 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> Just a short comment: Years ago someone made daily RCs avilable via an
> Rsync server. Thus it was very easy to get the latest RC -- you just
> rsynced the installer ISO you already had using rsync. As only small
> parts of the ISO changed from day to day it was just a few minutes task
> even with an not that fast internet connection.

We had that not too long ago.  The amount of people trying to rsync it
made the server completely unavailable and nobody got the bits.  It was
a disaster.  Too many people are just eager to "Get the latest bits"
whether they'll do useful testing with them or not, which ruins it for
the people who desperately need to verify a bug fix or sanity test a
compose.

-- 
Jesse Keating RHCE      (http://jkeating.livejournal.com)
Fedora Project          (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating)
GPG Public Key          (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub)
identi.ca               (http://identi.ca/jkeating)
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090529/61e492b1/attachment.sig>

From jkeating at j2solutions.net  Fri May 29 16:27:56 2009
From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:27:56 -0700
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <d58417910905290601p70367214jfc80b0ea74784920@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<d58417910905140546y29e63e55o3a7fca3070967037@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090514092728.630882f6@tomh>
	<1243527992.3037.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<d58417910905290601p70367214jfc80b0ea74784920@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243614476.3037.124.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 23:01 +1000, Masood wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com>
> wrote:
>         
>         This isn't true with Kernel Mode Setting anymore.  With KMS
>         you do get
>         enough memory reserved to handle the largest resolution your
>         card can
>         do, regardless of what was plugged in at the time X launched.
>         
> 
> As I mentioned, I don't think the problem is with X not having enough
> memory for largest resolution, but not reading resolution information
> when you hot-plug a HDMI connection (or maybe other interface types).
> If I manually add the modelines using xrandr, it just works.

Yes, it could be a bad monitor.  I have one monitor I use HDMI with,
however it uses a HDMI to DVI converter at the monitor side, and it's
plugged into the HDMI port on my M1330.  No matter whats plugged into my
laptop at X launch time, I can plug in this monitor and successfully get
native resolution on it.  I have a 26" LCD TV that I use direct HDMI
with and it too gets proper resolution when I plug it in, regardless of
when X launched.  My M1330 uses the intel driver, and if yours does too,
then the likely culprit is the display.

-- 
Jesse Keating RHCE      (http://jkeating.livejournal.com)
Fedora Project          (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating)
GPG Public Key          (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub)
identi.ca               (http://identi.ca/jkeating)
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090529/737b2c46/attachment.sig>

From jlaska at redhat.com  Fri May 29 16:35:10 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:35:10 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 RC2 installation testing
Message-ID: <1243614910.2797.283.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>

Greetings testers,

Well, as the name sometimes implies, a release candidate is just
that ... a 'candidate'.  Improved awareness around the impact of two
issues yesterday warranted additional changes.  The changes are detailed
in today's rawhide report [1].

Due to the nature of the anaconda device id change (bug#500808), the
anaconda-devel team have asked for help in resetting storage test
efforts.  I have created a RC2 wiki page and carried forward all RC1
test results, with the exception of physical media and storage tests.

If interested in helping to validate the F11 RC2 ...
     1. Please visit
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC2_Install_Test_Results
     2. Choose a test case that interests your or matches the hardware
        setup you typically deploy in
     3. Add your results to the wiki

Unless physical media (DVD or CD) is specified by the test case, you may
install from a local rawhide mirror that contains anaconda-11.5.0.57.
Don't forget to take a peak at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs should you encounter any
bugs.

Thanks for pitching in!
James

[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg01320.html
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090529/448197d6/attachment.sig>

From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 29 16:38:40 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:08:40 +0530
Subject: Merging F11 FAQ into other wiki pages
In-Reply-To: <1243498069.5892.15.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1243409012.6758.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<4A1CEC9D.8030207@fedoraproject.org>	<1243442091.2937.5.camel@adam.local.net>	<4A1D8E69.7050907@fedoraproject.org>	<e1cf1c3a0905271507x3715cbd4g5c47352f0e242b7e@mail.gmail.com>	<4A1DFD8C.8060508@fedoraproject.org>	<1243487842.3750.22.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<4A1E25AA.5080208@fedoraproject.org>
	<1243498069.5892.15.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A200F90.9070805@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/28/2009 01:37 PM, Christopher Beland wrote:

> I'm not exactly sure what the next steps are for the installation guide
> and release notes.  

You can ask in fedora-docs list for detailed pointers or just file bug
reports.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 29 16:47:49 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:17:49 +0530
Subject: rawhide report: 20090528 changes
In-Reply-To: <1243613487.2937.189.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <20090528140501.4121D1F8217@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>	<4A1F714C.80905@fedoraproject.org>
	<1243613487.2937.189.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A2011B5.8050706@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/29/2009 09:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

>>> kernel-2.6.29.4-167.fc11
>>> ------------------------
>>> * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-164
>>> - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855,
>>>   and 865. It can be forced on with i915.modeset=1 boot parameter.

> 
> So, from 163 to 167, the sum total of changes was really just the
> addition of the patch to fix the hanging problem (and also
> drm-intel-set-domain-on-fault.patch , which is for another bug that we
> considered critical).

The last change on 167 says that KMS is disabled on these chipsets. You
seem to be saying it is actually enabled by default?

Rahul



From wwoods at redhat.com  Fri May 29 16:51:31 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:51:31 -0400
Subject: rawhide report: 20090528 changes
In-Reply-To: <4A2011B5.8050706@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20090528140501.4121D1F8217@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<4A1F714C.80905@fedoraproject.org>
	<1243613487.2937.189.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A2011B5.8050706@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1243615891.3107.2.camel@metroid>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 22:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/29/2009 09:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> 
> >>> kernel-2.6.29.4-167.fc11
> >>> ------------------------
> >>> * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-164
> >>> - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855,
> >>>   and 865. It can be forced on with i915.modeset=1 boot parameter.
> 
> > 
> > So, from 163 to 167, the sum total of changes was really just the
> > addition of the patch to fix the hanging problem (and also
> > drm-intel-set-domain-on-fault.patch , which is for another bug that we
> > considered critical).
> 
> The last change on 167 says that KMS is disabled on these chipsets. You
> seem to be saying it is actually enabled by default?

You're reading it wrong - it's a double-negative.

* Wed May 27 2009 Kristian H?gsberg <krh at madara.bos.redhat.com> -
2.6.4.167
- Actually disable drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch.

krh disabled the patch that disables kms - i.e. kms is now enabled again
for i8xx.

-w



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Fri May 29 16:53:27 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 18:53:27 +0200
Subject: rawhide report: 20090528 changes
References: <20090528140501.4121D1F8217@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>	<4A1F714C.80905@fedoraproject.org>
	<1243613487.2937.189.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A2011B5.8050706@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <gvp3u7$v92$3@ger.gmane.org>

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>> * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-164
>>>> - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855,
>>>>   and 865. It can be forced on with i915.modeset=1 boot parameter.
> 
> The last change on 167 says that KMS is disabled on these chipsets. You
> seem to be saying it is actually enabled by default?

That's not the last change, it's the change in -164. The changelog is not
properly ordered.

        Kevin Kofler



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 29 17:11:26 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:11:26 -0700
Subject: rawhide report: 20090528 changes
In-Reply-To: <4A2011B5.8050706@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20090528140501.4121D1F8217@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<4A1F714C.80905@fedoraproject.org>
	<1243613487.2937.189.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A2011B5.8050706@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1243617086.2937.203.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 22:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/29/2009 09:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> 
> >>> kernel-2.6.29.4-167.fc11
> >>> ------------------------
> >>> * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-164
> >>> - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855,
> >>>   and 865. It can be forced on with i915.modeset=1 boot parameter.
> 
> > 
> > So, from 163 to 167, the sum total of changes was really just the
> > addition of the patch to fix the hanging problem (and also
> > drm-intel-set-domain-on-fault.patch , which is for another bug that we
> > considered critical).
> 
> The last change on 167 says that KMS is disabled on these chipsets. You
> seem to be saying it is actually enabled by default?

As Kevin says, the changelog isn't well ordered - note the
date/email/revision line, that's the changes in -164. The changelog
shows 164, 165, 166, 167, 163. I wonder if this will ever get fixed :)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri May 29 17:22:02 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:52:02 +0530
Subject: rawhide report: 20090528 changes
In-Reply-To: <gvp3u7$v92$3@ger.gmane.org>
References: <20090528140501.4121D1F8217@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>	<4A1F714C.80905@fedoraproject.org>	<1243613487.2937.189.camel@adam.local.net>	<4A2011B5.8050706@fedoraproject.org>
	<gvp3u7$v92$3@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4A2019BA.9010106@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/29/2009 10:23 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>>> * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com> 2.6.29.4-164
>>>>> - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855,
>>>>>   and 865. It can be forced on with i915.modeset=1 boot parameter.
>>
>> The last change on 167 says that KMS is disabled on these chipsets. You
>> seem to be saying it is actually enabled by default?
> 
> That's not the last change, it's the change in -164. The changelog is not
> properly ordered.

Ugh. That explains my confusion. Thanks.

Rahul



From clumens at redhat.com  Fri May 29 17:29:57 2009
From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:29:57 -0400
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <4A1EE542.9000703@redhat.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1EE542.9000703@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20090529172956.GO5296@localhost.localdomain>

> Forgive me for asking the obvious.... have we done a review of all the  
> open anaconda bugs for 'rawhide' to make sure there are no other bugs  
> already open for anaconda that could put us back into this same 
> situation?

We have now:

   https://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2009-May/msg00352.html

- Chris



From poelstra at redhat.com  Fri May 29 18:07:09 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:07:09 -0700
Subject: Fedora 11 RC2 installation testing
In-Reply-To: <1243614910.2797.283.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1243614910.2797.283.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A20244D.8090905@redhat.com>

James Laska said the following on 05/29/2009 09:35 AM Pacific Time:
> Greetings testers,
>
> Well, as the name sometimes implies, a release candidate is just
> that ... a 'candidate'.  Improved awareness around the impact of two
> issues yesterday warranted additional changes.  The changes are detailed
> in today's rawhide report [1].
>
> Due to the nature of the anaconda device id change (bug#500808), the
> anaconda-devel team have asked for help in resetting storage test
> efforts.  I have created a RC2 wiki page and carried forward all RC1
> test results, with the exception of physical media and storage tests.
>
> If interested in helping to validate the F11 RC2 ...
>       1. Please visit
>          https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC2_Install_Test_Results
>       2. Choose a test case that interests your or matches the hardware
>          setup you typically deploy in
>       3. Add your results to the wiki
>
> Unless physical media (DVD or CD) is specified by the test case, you may

For physical media installs I found the ISOs here: 
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/f11-rc2/



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Fri May 29 18:25:34 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:25:34 -0400
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <1243614317.3037.122.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1F0EFC.1090202@redhat.com>  <4A1F964F.2000905@leemhuis.info>
	<1243614317.3037.122.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243621534.11219.13.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 09:25 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:01 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > Just a short comment: Years ago someone made daily RCs avilable via an
> > Rsync server. Thus it was very easy to get the latest RC -- you just
> > rsynced the installer ISO you already had using rsync. As only small
> > parts of the ISO changed from day to day it was just a few minutes task
> > even with an not that fast internet connection.
> 
> We had that not too long ago.  The amount of people trying to rsync it
> made the server completely unavailable and nobody got the bits.  It was
> a disaster.  Too many people are just eager to "Get the latest bits"
> whether they'll do useful testing with them or not, which ruins it for
> the people who desperately need to verify a bug fix or sanity test a
> compose.

This seems like the sort of problem BitTorrent is designed to solve.  Is
that not a feasible solution because of administrative overhead on the
setup side (which might be fixed with some automation) or because a
differences-only mechanism is needed?

-B.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 29 18:28:13 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:28:13 -0700
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:32 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:

> It happens!  I see it in both GNOME and KDE environments.  I had it to
> never and it happens as soon as I type something in internet.   Moving
> the mouse or a touching a key gets me back.  It is strange but it does
> happen.  I guess it is not a big deal, but others may have other
> opinions.

Update here (I just picked a random mail from the thread to reply to):

http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/05/29/gnome-power-manager-unstableness/

I've asked Richard, in Paul's bug -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601 - if he could
possibly do a scratch build of the latest git code to aid testing. If
this shows up I'll reply to this thread again. Otherwise, anyone
adventurous enough to build the latest git themselves in order to test
could try that.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri May 29 18:34:48 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:34:48 -0600
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1243622088.8817.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:32 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> 
> > It happens!  I see it in both GNOME and KDE environments.  I had it to
> > never and it happens as soon as I type something in internet.   Moving
> > the mouse or a touching a key gets me back.  It is strange but it does
> > happen.  I guess it is not a big deal, but others may have other
> > opinions.
> 
> Update here (I just picked a random mail from the thread to reply to):
> 
> http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/05/29/gnome-power-manager-unstableness/
> 
> I've asked Richard, in Paul's bug -
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601 - if he could
> possibly do a scratch build of the latest git code to aid testing. If
> this shows up I'll reply to this thread again. Otherwise, anyone
> adventurous enough to build the latest git themselves in order to test
> could try that.
> -- 
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> http://www.happyassassin.net
> 

I would like to say the same thing is happening to me. 
-- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From bob at fedoraunity.org  Fri May 29 18:47:13 2009
From: bob at fedoraunity.org (Robert 'Bob' Jensen)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 18:47:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <1243621534.11219.13.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>


----- "Christopher Beland" <beland at alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> This seems like the sort of problem BitTorrent is designed to solve. 
> Is
> that not a feasible solution because of administrative overhead on
> the
> setup side (which might be fixed with some automation) or because a
> differences-only mechanism is needed?
> 

The problem becomes the fact that torrents without seeds are worthless.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
|       Robert 'Bob' Jensen        ||       Fedora Unity Founder       |
|       bob at fedoraunity.org        ||      http://fedoraunity.org/     |
|                   http://bjensen.fedorapeople.org/                   |
|                http://blogs.fedoraunity.org/bobjensen                |
------------------------------------------------------------------------



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 29 19:50:16 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:50:16 -0700
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:32 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> 
> > It happens!  I see it in both GNOME and KDE environments.  I had it to
> > never and it happens as soon as I type something in internet.   Moving
> > the mouse or a touching a key gets me back.  It is strange but it does
> > happen.  I guess it is not a big deal, but others may have other
> > opinions.
> 
> Update here (I just picked a random mail from the thread to reply to):
> 
> http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/05/29/gnome-power-manager-unstableness/
> 
> I've asked Richard, in Paul's bug -
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601 - if he could
> possibly do a scratch build of the latest git code to aid testing. If
> this shows up I'll reply to this thread again. Otherwise, anyone
> adventurous enough to build the latest git themselves in order to test
> could try that.

OK, I decided not to be a lazy ass and do the builds for you guys
myself. Here's the packages:

http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.i586.rpm (i586)
http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.x86_64.rpm (x86-64)
http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.src.rpm (src.rpm, just to be a good citizen)

If you're suffering this issue, please grab the appropriate build for
your system, give it a try, and let us know if it works. thanks!
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jkeating at redhat.com  Fri May 29 20:13:29 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:13:29 -0700
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>
References: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>
Message-ID: <1243628009.3037.125.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 18:47 +0000, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
> ----- "Christopher Beland" <beland at alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > This seems like the sort of problem BitTorrent is designed to solve. 
> > Is
> > that not a feasible solution because of administrative overhead on
> > the
> > setup side (which might be fixed with some automation) or because a
> > differences-only mechanism is needed?
> > 
> 
> The problem becomes the fact that torrents without seeds are worthless.
> 


And when the contents change daily or even multiple times a day getting
any kind of seeding is not going to happen.

-- 
Jesse Keating RHCE      (http://jkeating.livejournal.com)
Fedora Project          (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating)
GPG Public Key          (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub)
identi.ca               (http://identi.ca/jkeating)
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090529/b3d20c3d/attachment.sig>

From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri May 29 20:22:35 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E. Graves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:22:35 -0600
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1243628555.3139.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 12:50 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:32 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > 
> > > It happens!  I see it in both GNOME and KDE environments.  I had it to
> > > never and it happens as soon as I type something in internet.   Moving
> > > the mouse or a touching a key gets me back.  It is strange but it does
> > > happen.  I guess it is not a big deal, but others may have other
> > > opinions.
> > 
> > Update here (I just picked a random mail from the thread to reply to):
> > 
> > http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/05/29/gnome-power-manager-unstableness/
> > 
> > I've asked Richard, in Paul's bug -
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601 - if he could
> > possibly do a scratch build of the latest git code to aid testing. If
> > this shows up I'll reply to this thread again. Otherwise, anyone
> > adventurous enough to build the latest git themselves in order to test
> > could try that.
> 
> OK, I decided not to be a lazy ass and do the builds for you guys
> myself. Here's the packages:
> 
> http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.i586.rpm (i586)
> http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.x86_64.rpm (x86-64)
> http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.src.rpm (src.rpm, just to be a good citizen)
> 
> If you're suffering this issue, please grab the appropriate build for
> your system, give it a try, and let us know if it works. thanks!
> -- 
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> http://www.happyassassin.net
> 
-


Thank you.- 
Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri May 29 20:45:51 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:45:51 -0700
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1243628555.3139.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243628555.3139.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1243629951.2937.234.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 14:22 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:

> > OK, I decided not to be a lazy ass and do the builds for you guys
> > myself. Here's the packages:
> > 
> > http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.i586.rpm (i586)
> > http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.x86_64.rpm (x86-64)
> > http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.src.rpm (src.rpm, just to be a good citizen)
> > 
> > If you're suffering this issue, please grab the appropriate build for
> > your system, give it a try, and let us know if it works. thanks!
> > -- 
> > Adam Williamson
> > Fedora QA Community Monkey
> > IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> > http://www.happyassassin.net

> Thank you.- 
> Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>

You're welcome. er. Did they help? That's sort of the point - we need to
know if this package solves the problem or not...
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri May 29 20:54:11 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:54:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
Message-ID: <697329.61827.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Fri, 5/29/09, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:

> From: Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: every so often, screen just goes black
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Cc: "Antonio Olivares" <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
> Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 12:50 PM
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:28 -0700,
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:32 -0700, Antonio Olivares
> wrote:
> > 
> > > It happens!  I see it in both GNOME and KDE
> environments.  I had it to
> > > never and it happens as soon as I type something
> in internet.   Moving
> > > the mouse or a touching a key gets me back. 
> It is strange but it does
> > > happen.  I guess it is not a big deal, but
> others may have other
> > > opinions.
> > 
> > Update here (I just picked a random mail from the
> thread to reply to):
> > 
> > http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/05/29/gnome-power-manager-unstableness/
> > 
> > I've asked Richard, in Paul's bug -
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601 - if
> he could
> > possibly do a scratch build of the latest git code to
> aid testing. If
> > this shows up I'll reply to this thread again.
> Otherwise, anyone
> > adventurous enough to build the latest git themselves
> in order to test
> > could try that.
> 
> OK, I decided not to be a lazy ass and do the builds for
> you guys
> myself. Here's the packages:
> 
> http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.i586.rpm
> (i586)
> http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.x86_64.rpm
> (x86-64)
> http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.src.rpm
> (src.rpm, just to be a good citizen)
> 
> If you're suffering this issue, please grab the appropriate
> build for
> your system, give it a try, and let us know if it works.
> thanks!
> -- 
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT
> org
> http://www.happyassassin.net
> 
> 

I have installed it :)

[olivares at localhost ~]$ cd Documents/
[olivares at localhost Documents]$ ls *.rpm
gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.i586.rpm
[olivares at localhost Documents]$ su -
Password: 
[root at localhost ~]# cd /home/olivares/Documents/
[root at localhost Documents]# rpm -Uvh gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.i586.rpm 
Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
   1:gnome-power-manager    ########################################### [100%]

Will let you and others on list how it works out.  At least on one machine, the others have been retired school is over till next year :)

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri May 29 20:56:30 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:56:30 -0500
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <4A1F964F.2000905@leemhuis.info>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1F0EFC.1090202@redhat.com> <4A1F964F.2000905@leemhuis.info>
Message-ID: <20090529205630.GA19844@wolff.to>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:01:19 +0200,
  Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora at leemhuis.info> wrote:
> 
> I haven't checked if that still works, but I guess it would. Of course
> not with the Live spins, as they are compressed and thus everything
> changes all the time. But maybe we could offer them as uncompressed
> images somewhere -- you could still test them using USB-Sticks, DVDs, or
> with visualization solutions like KVM, Qemu, and Virtual-Box.

If you don't need to test the exact bits, another option is to maintain a
local mirror of rawhide and build livecd/dvd images yourself using
livecd-creator. It is pretty easy to do. Rawhide churn is a bit high, so
that even with rsync you will regularly get > 100 MB of changes and sometimes
> 1 GB on a daily basis. There also aren't a lot of rsync mirrors that are
updated daily.



From stickster at gmail.com  Fri May 29 21:11:39 2009
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:11:39 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1243629951.2937.234.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243628555.3139.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243629951.2937.234.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20090529211139.GB8435@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 01:45:51PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 14:22 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
> 
> > > OK, I decided not to be a lazy ass and do the builds for you guys
> > > myself. Here's the packages:
> > > 
> > > http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.i586.rpm (i586)
> > > http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.x86_64.rpm (x86-64)
> > > http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.src.rpm (src.rpm, just to be a good citizen)
> > > 
> > > If you're suffering this issue, please grab the appropriate build for
> > > your system, give it a try, and let us know if it works. thanks!
> > > -- 
> > > Adam Williamson
> > > Fedora QA Community Monkey
> > > IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> > > http://www.happyassassin.net
> 
> > Thank you.- 
> > Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>
> 
> You're welcome. er. Did they help? That's sort of the point - we need to
> know if this package solves the problem or not...

I'll report back this weekend -- the problem doesn't seem to happen at
a predictable time (or I'm really bad at predicting it), but I'll know
after a day or so when it hasn't occurred that things are better. :-)

-- 
Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
  http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
  irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug



From mcepl at redhat.com  Fri May 29 21:50:16 2009
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 21:50:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: StockBugzillaResponses updated, nVidia question
References: <1237303218.21056.98.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C7907A.1080404@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<1237834184.28090.8.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<49C805A0.4060807@gmail.com>
	<1238520814.29460.34.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1238521789.4338.115.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243492282.3750.32.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<gvllla$t8t$3@ger.gmane.org> <1243528543.2937.156.camel@adam.local.net>
	<gvomse$vcd$2@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243603171.3530.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<gvoqb6$vcd$5@ger.gmane.org>
	<1243607753.3530.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <gvplao$j94$1@ger.gmane.org>

Lawrence E. Graves, Fri, 29 May 2009 08:35:53 -0600:
> I am the guy who sent the bug about the mouse that wouldn't change from
> left to the right-handed use. You ask for my log files and then sent me
> some instruction for me to perform trying to narrow down the possible
> problem.  I know you are very busy right now with the intended RC in a
> few days so if this has slipped your mind, I truly understand.  I can
> wait until the release of RC.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502129 --

Oh boy, I am sorry, but I really don't understand all active bugs around. 
Looking at the bug, it's now all in Peter's hands ... he usually deals 
with his bugs pretty swiftly.

Mat?j



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Fri May 29 21:52:50 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:52:50 -0700
Subject: kde 4.3 Beta1
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905291452n490c94bajd759624738bc424b@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

Thanks for everyone who responded to my question!  Thanks Rahul for the
repository that had it also...

Sincerely,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090529/15f52f30/attachment.htm>

From mike at cchtml.com  Sat May 30 01:32:03 2009
From: mike at cchtml.com (Michael Cronenworth)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 20:32:03 -0500
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <1243628009.3037.125.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>
	<1243628009.3037.125.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A208C93.3070407@cchtml.com>

Jesse Keating wrote:
> And when the contents change daily or even multiple times a day getting
> any kind of seeding is not going to happen.
>   

Sounds like another feature request for a QA tool. Not only do we need 
something for better management of bodhi/updates-testing packages, but 
for Preview/RC images. If there was a way to know a torrent for an RC 
was available I'd provide some seeding. I don't think I would be alone. 
Such a tool could be extended for release ISOs. Right now I only know 
about torrents.fedoraproject.org, which may go down during release day...

File it down somewhere instead of counting out such a feature. If you 
provide a simple/easy-to-use system it will work.




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Sat May 30 02:39:52 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 02:39:52 +0000
Subject: Fedora 9 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090530023952.848A510F8B0@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 9 updates-testing

    Cython-0.11.2-1.fc9
    anki-0.9.9.7.9b-1.fc9
    chmlib-0.40-1.fc9
    guitarix-0.04.5-1.fc9
    mulk-0.4.1-2.fc9
    system-config-samba-1.2.76-1.fc9

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 Cython-0.11.2-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5688)
 A language for writing Python extension modules
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.11.2 see http://trac.cython.org/cython_trac/query?status=closed&orde
r=type&col=id&col=summary&col=type&col=owner&milestone=0.11.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.11.2-1
- Update to 0.11.2
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> - 0.11.1-1
- Update to 0.11.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 anki-0.9.9.7.9b-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5685)
 Flashcard program for using space repetition learning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.9b to fix a syncing bug.    The full
changelog can be found here:  http://ichi2.net/anki/download/index.html#changes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.9b-1
- Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.9b to fix a syncing bug
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 chmlib-0.40-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5682)
 Library for dealing with ITSS/CHM format files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ver. 0.40 (bugfixes only)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov at gmail.com> 0.40-1
- Ver. 0.40
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.39-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 guitarix-0.04.5-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5707)
 Mono amplifier to JACK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

guitarix is a simple mono amplifier to JACK (Jack Audio Connection Kit) with
one input and two outputs. It is designed to get nice trash/metall/rock/blues
guitar sounds. Controls for bass, treble, gain, compressor, preamp, balance,
distortion, freeverb, crybaby(wah) and echo are available. A fixed resonator
will be used when distortion is disabled. For the 'pressure' in the sound you
can use the feedback and feedforward sliders.    guitarix includes an
experimental tuner and a JACK midi output port with 3  channels. They will be
fed by a mix from a pitch tracker and a beat detector.  You can pitch the octave
(2 up or down), choose the midi channel, the program,  the velocity and the
sensitiviy, which means how fast the note will read after  the beat detector
emits a signal. Values can be set for the beat detector for  all channels.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499975 - Review Request: guitarix - Mono amplifier to JACK
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499975
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mulk-0.4.1-2.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5684)
 Multi-connection network downloader with Metalink support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497948 - Review Request: mulk - Non-interactive multi-connection network downloader with image filtering and Metalink support.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497948
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 system-config-samba-1.2.76-1.fc9 (FEDORA-2009-5706)
 Samba server configuration tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.76-1
- handle missing smb.conf (#477944)
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- avoid malformed username map entries (#460274)
- fix handling unknown configuration options (#460273)
* Thu Apr  9 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.75-1
- fix sambaSection.getKey() for inverted keys
- allow auth_admin always (#494896)
* Thu Apr  9 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.74-1
- fix use via dbus
* Thu Apr  9 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.73-1
- fix antonym/inverted synonym handling regression
- various other fixes
* Tue Apr  7 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.72-1
- merge SambaBackend and UserData classes (#490050)
* Mon Apr  6 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- remove unnecessary mainWindow import
- keep section information with parser object
* Mon Mar 30 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- further backend cleanup
* Tue Mar 24 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- remove commented out old code
- don't pass off GUI objects into backend code
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.71-1
- require PolicyKit-authentication-agent from F-11 on (#487191)
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.70-1
- make parser cope with whitespace-less keywords (#460272)
* Mon Feb 16 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- make warnings details expander show correct text and always use accelerators
* Wed Feb 11 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- don't hardwire username map path (#460267)
* Thu Dec 11 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.69-1
- new smb.conf template file (#474811)
* Tue Dec  9 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- allow anyone to invoke dbus methods (#475524)
* Thu Dec  4 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- fix parser, dbus wrapper to allow non-ASCII characters in configuration
* Fri Nov 28 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.68-1
- split off documentation
* Wed Nov 12 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.67-1
- use different defaults for PolicyKit authorizations (#470330)
* Fri Oct 31 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.66-1
- fix typo that caused traceback
* Tue Oct 28 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.65-1
- don't use consolehelper (#467784)
- fix installation without DESTDIR set
* Fri Oct 17 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- use temporary smbusers file (/etc/samba/smbusers.new) for writing, then
  rename
* Fri Oct 10 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- default to not using dbus as root and using dbus otherwise
* Fri Aug 29 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- don't remove widgets in the add/edit user dialog when editing users (#460323)
* Thu Aug 28 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- make --no-dbus work
- dump error message in case of pdbedit errors that don't stem from the user
  not being root (#460437)
* Tue Aug 19 2008 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp at redhat.com> - 1.2.64-1
- install dbus service mechanism
* Mon Aug 18 2008 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp at redhat.com>
- add python, python-devel build requirements
- remove usermode, libuser-python requirements
- add dbus-python, PolicyKit-gnome, python-slip-dbus requirements
- ship dbus, PolicyKit configuration and scsamba python module
* Fri Aug 15 2008 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp at redhat.com>
- use dbus/PolicyKit for privileged operations in the frontend
- use pwd.getpwall () instead of libuser for user enumeration
* Wed Aug 13 2008 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp at redhat.com>
- implement dbus service wrapping the backend
* Tue Aug 12 2008 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp at redhat.com>
- restructure source, prepare for dbus/PolicyKit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #477944 - Fails to start without an smb.conf
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477944
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Sat May 30 02:39:52 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 02:39:52 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090530023952.9B38810F8B1@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    R-BSgenome-1.12.0-2.fc11
    anki-0.9.9.7.9b-1.fc11
    bzr-1.15-1.fc11
    bzrtools-1.15.0-2.fc11
    chmlib-0.40-1.fc11
    csound-5.10.1-6.fc11
    gnonlin-0.10.11-1.fc11
    gnote-0.4.0-1.fc11
    guitarix-0.04.5-1.fc11
    jpilot-backup-0.60-4.fc11
    libguestfs-1.0.36-1.fc11.2
    libhugetlbfs-2.4-1.fc11
    mulk-0.4.1-2.fc11
    ntp-4.2.4p7-2.fc11
    openttd-opengfx-0-0.4.alpha4.2.fc11
    python-sippy-0-0.8.20090429cvs.fc11
    rb_libtorrent-0.14.3-1.fc11
    shorewall-4.2.9-2.fc11
    springlobby-0.0.1.10461-1.fc11
    system-config-samba-1.2.76-1.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 R-BSgenome-1.12.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5694)
 Infrastructure for Biostrings-based genome data packages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Infrastructure for Biostrings-based genome data packages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490722 - Review Request: R-BSgenome - Infrastructure for Biostrings-based genome data packages
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490722
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 anki-0.9.9.7.9b-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5668)
 Flashcard program for using space repetition learning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.9b to fix a syncing bug.    The full
changelog can be found here:  http://ichi2.net/anki/download/index.html#changes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.9b-1
- Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.9b to fix a syncing bug
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bzr-1.15-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5347)
 Friendly distributed version control system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to bzr 1.15, bzrttols 1.15.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat May 23 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 1.15-1
- Update to 1.15
* Sat May  2 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 1.14.1-1
- Update to 1.14.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bzrtools-1.15.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5347)
 A collection of utilities and plugins for Bazaar-NG
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to bzr 1.15, bzrttols 1.15.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 1.15.0-1
- Update to 1.15.0
* Sat May 23 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 1.14.0-2
- Relax dependencies slightly as 1.14.0 works with bzr-1.15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 chmlib-0.40-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5655)
 Library for dealing with ITSS/CHM format files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ver. 0.40 (bugfixes only)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov at gmail.com> 0.40-1
- Ver. 0.40
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 csound-5.10.1-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5683)
 A sound synthesis language and library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix the -tutorial package non obsolete.... sorry... it went below the radar with
all the other stuff on the list :-( Thanks for the report!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 5.10.1-6
- Obsolete csound-tutorial
* Wed May 13 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 5.10.1-5
- Add missing patch to branch
* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 5.10.1-4
- Once more with feeling :-)
* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 5.10.1-3
- Some further spec fixes
* Tue May 12 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 5.10.1-2
- Some build fixes. Enable pulseaudio support
* Mon May 11 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 5.10.1-1
- Update to 5.10.1 based massively on dcbw's 5.07 spec from the OLPC-2 cvs branch
  rebase what looks to be relevant pataches from both branches
  add a number of other build fixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnonlin-0.10.11-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5691)
 GStreamer extension library for non-linear editing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is GNonLin 0.10.11 "How about green for the bikeshed?" Features of this
release * Speedup option to avoid recalculation during composition changes *
Switch to regular seeks for more efficient beheaviour * More GstQuery/GstEvent
handling * Bugfixes on GnlOperation * Switch to GIT * Documentation Update to
prerelease of 0.10.11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 0.10.11-1
- This is GNonLin 0.10.11 "How about green for the bikeshed?"
- 
- Features of this release
- 
-  * Speedup option to avoid recalculation during composition changes
-  * Switch to regular seeks for more efficient beheaviour
-  * More GstQuery/GstEvent handling
-  * Bugfixes on GnlOperation
-  * Switch to GIT
-  * Documentation
* Mon May 18 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 0.10.10.3-1
- Update to prerelease for 0.10.11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #503004 - Please upgrade to Gnonlin to 0.10.11
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503004
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnote-0.4.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5670)
 Note-taking application
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Number of minor bug fixes. Details at
http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2009/05/27/670-gnote-040.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.0-1
- Many minor bug fixes from new upstream release
  http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2009/05/27/670-gnote-040
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 guitarix-0.04.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5671)
 Mono amplifier to JACK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

guitarix is a simple mono amplifier to JACK (Jack Audio Connection Kit) with
one input and two outputs. It is designed to get nice trash/metall/rock/blues
guitar sounds. Controls for bass, treble, gain, compressor, preamp, balance,
distortion, freeverb, crybaby(wah) and echo are available. A fixed resonator
will be used when distortion is disabled. For the 'pressure' in the sound you
can use the feedback and feedforward sliders.    guitarix includes an
experimental tuner and a JACK midi output port with 3  channels. They will be
fed by a mix from a pitch tracker and a beat detector.  You can pitch the octave
(2 up or down), choose the midi channel, the program,  the velocity and the
sensitiviy, which means how fast the note will read after  the beat detector
emits a signal. Values can be set for the beat detector for  all channels.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499975 - Review Request: guitarix - Mono amplifier to JACK
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499975
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jpilot-backup-0.60-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5698)
 Enhanced backup plugin for J-Pilot
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

pilot-link excludes s390 and s390s, as such I must also exclude those arches
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue May 26 2009 Patrick C. F. Ernzer <jpilot-backup.spec at pcfe.net> 0.60-4
- added a comment as to why I exclude s390 and s390s
* Tue May 26 2009 Patrick C. F. Ernzer <jpilot-backup.spec at pcfe.net> 0.60-3
- pilot-link excludes s390 and s390s, so this package needs to do the same
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libguestfs-1.0.36-1.fc11.2 (FEDORA-2009-5700)
 Access and modify virtual machine disk images
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 New upstream version 1.0.33 fixing multiple bugs. New upstream version 1.0.32
libguestfs only requires qemu-kvm, not all of qemu New upstream version 1.0.27.
New upstream version 1.0.30 containing multiple bugfixes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Richard W.M. Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.36-1.fc11.2
- New upstream version 1.0.36.
- Rerun the generator in prep section.
* Thu May 28 2009 Richard W.M. Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.35-1
- New upstream version 1.0.35.
- Fixes multiple bugs in bindings parameters (RHBZ#501892).
* Wed May 27 2009 Richard W.M. Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.33-1
- New upstream version 1.0.33.
- --with-java-home option is no longer required.
- Upstream contains potential fixes for:
    501878 built-in commands like 'alloc' and 'help' don't autocomplete
    501883 javadoc messed up in libguestfs java documentation
    501885 Doesn't detect missing Java, --with-java-home=no should not be needed
    502533 Polish translation of libguestfs
    n/a    Allow more ext filesystem kmods (Charles Duffy)
* Tue May 26 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.32-1.fc11.1
- New upstream version 1.0.32.
- Use %find_lang macro.
* Thu May 21 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.30-1.fc11.2
- Backport version 1.0.30 from devel branch.
- Disable tests on i586 because of RHBZ#502074.
* Thu May 21 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1.fc11.2
- Change requirement from qemu -> qemu-kvm (RHBZ#501761).
* Wed May 20 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1.fc11.1
- Requested that zerofree and febootstrap be moved so we will be able
  to build this.
* Wed May 20 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.27-1
- Backport version 1.0.27 from devel branch.
* Tue May 12 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.25-3
- New upstream version 1.0.25.
- Enable debugging when running the tests.
* Tue May 12 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.24-1
- New upstream version 1.0.24.
- BRs glibc-static for the new command tests.
- Enable tests.
* Mon May 11 2009 Richard Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.0.23-2
- New upstream version 1.0.23.
- Don't try to use updates during build.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501892 - OptString parameters not handled properly in bindings
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501892
  [ 2 ] Bug #501878 - guestfish built-in commands like 'alloc' and 'help' don't autocomplete
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501878
  [ 3 ] Bug #501883 - javadoc messed up in libguestfs java documentation
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501883
  [ 4 ] Bug #501885 - Doesn't detect missing Java, --with-java-home=no should not be needed
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501885
  [ 5 ] Bug #502533 - Polish translation of libguestfs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502533
  [ 6 ] Bug #501761 - libguestfs requires qemu, not qemu-system-x86 or qemu-system-ppc
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501761
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libhugetlbfs-2.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5654)
 A library which provides easy access to huge pages of memory
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 29 2009 Eric Munson <ebmunson at us.ibm.com> 2.4-1
- Updateing for the libhugetlbfs-2.4 release
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Eric Munson <ebmunson at us.ibm.com> 2.3-1
- Updateing for the libhugetlbfs-2.3 release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mulk-0.4.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5676)
 Multi-connection network downloader with Metalink support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497948 - Review Request: mulk - Non-interactive multi-connection network downloader with image filtering and Metalink support.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497948
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ntp-4.2.4p7-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5674)
 The NTP daemon and utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes a denial of service issue if autokey is enabled (default is
disabled).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar at redhat.com> 4.2.4p7-2
- fix frequency calculation when starting with no drift file
- reduce phase adjustments beyond Allan intercept in daemon PLL
* Tue May 19 2009 Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar at redhat.com> 4.2.4p7-1
- update to 4.2.4p7 (CVE-2009-1252)
- improve PLL response when kernel discipline is disabled
- don't log STA_MODE changes
- enable nanokernel support
- allow minpoll 3
- increase memlock limit
- move html documentation to -doc subpackage (#492444)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499694 - CVE-2009-1252 ntp: remote arbitrary code execution vulnerability if autokeys is enabled
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499694
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openttd-opengfx-0-0.4.alpha4.2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5657)
 OpenGFX replacement graphics for OpenTTD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial import of package openttd-opengfx
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491519 - Review Request: openttd-opengfx - OpenGFX replacement graphics for OpenTTD
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491519
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-sippy-0-0.8.20090429cvs.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5692)
 B2BUA (back-to-back user agent) SIP call controlling component
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #446841 - Review Request: python-sippy - B2BUA SIP call controlling component
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446841
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rb_libtorrent-0.14.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5703)
 A C++ BitTorrent library aiming to be the best alternative
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to rb_libtorrent upstream bug-fix release, which changes the library
SONAME and requires updates/rebuilds of dependencies: springlobby and
qbittorrent (the latter has been pushed to stable already in FEDORA-2009-4432).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Apr 27 2009 Peter Gordon <peter at thecodergeek.com> - 0.14.3-1
- Update to new upstream bug-fix release (0.14.3).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499981 - Please rebuild in F-11 for rb_libtorrent soname bump
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499981
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 shorewall-4.2.9-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5695)
 An iptables front end for firewall configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to upstream bugfix version 4.2.9. Release notes here:
http://www1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/4.2/shorewall-4.2.9/releasenotes.txt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 27 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.9-2
- Fix up /var/lib directories (BZ 502929)
* Wed May 20 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.9-1
- Update to version 4.2.9
* Fri May  8 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.8-1
- Update to version 4.2.8
- Update shorewall-perl to 4.2.8.2
- Use global instead of define in macros to comply with packaging guidelines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502929 - shorewall6 is not starting because of missing /var/lib/shorewall6
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502929
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 springlobby-0.0.1.10461-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5703)
 A lobby client for the spring RTS game engine
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to rb_libtorrent upstream bug-fix release, which changes the library
SONAME and requires updates/rebuilds of dependencies: springlobby and
qbittorrent (the latter has been pushed to stable already in FEDORA-2009-4432).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 22 2009 Aurelien Bompard <abompard at fedoraproject.org> 0.0.1.10461-1
- version 10461
- drop patch0 (merged upstream)
* Sun May 10 2009 Aurelien Bompard <abompard at fedoraproject.org> 0.0.1.10425-5
- rebuild
* Tue Apr 28 2009 Aurelien Bompard <abompard at fedoraproject.org> 0.0.1.10425-4
- rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499981 - Please rebuild in F-11 for rb_libtorrent soname bump
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499981
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 system-config-samba-1.2.76-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5693)
 Samba server configuration tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.76-1
- handle missing smb.conf (#477944)
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- avoid malformed username map entries (#460274)
- fix handling unknown configuration options (#460273)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #477944 - Fails to start without an smb.conf
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477944
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Sat May 30 02:39:52 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 02:39:52 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20090530023952.9E65010F8B2@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    R-BSgenome-1.12.0-2.fc10
    anki-0.9.9.7.9b-1.fc10
    bzr-1.15-1.fc10
    bzrtools-1.15.0-1.fc10
    chmlib-0.40-1.fc10
    guitarix-0.04.5-1.fc10
    ibus-table-cangjie-1.1.0.20090309-2.fc10
    ibus-table-erbi-1.1.0.20090407-1.fc10
    ibus-table-wubi-1.1.0.20090327-2.fc10
    ibus-table-yong-1.1.0.20090422-1.fc10
    libhugetlbfs-2.4-1.fc10
    mulk-0.4.1-2.fc10
    neon-0.28.4-1.1.fc10
    openttd-opengfx-0-0.4.alpha4.2.fc10
    perl-Data-Visitor-0.25-1.fc10
    python-sippy-0-0.8.20090429cvs.fc10
    shorewall-4.2.9-2.fc10
    subversion-1.6.2-2.fc10
    system-config-samba-1.2.76-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 R-BSgenome-1.12.0-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5661)
 Infrastructure for Biostrings-based genome data packages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Infrastructure for Biostrings-based genome data packages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #490722 - Review Request: R-BSgenome - Infrastructure for Biostrings-based genome data packages
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490722
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 anki-0.9.9.7.9b-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5686)
 Flashcard program for using space repetition learning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.9b to fix a syncing bug.    The full
changelog can be found here:  http://ichi2.net/anki/download/index.html#changes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon May 25 2009 Christian Krause <chkr at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.9.7.9b-1
- Update to new upstream version 0.9.9.7.9b to fix a syncing bug
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bzr-1.15-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5667)
 Friendly distributed version control system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to bzr 1.15 & bzrtools 1.15.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 1.15-1
- Update to 1.15
* Sat May  2 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> 1.14.1-1
- Update to 1.14.1
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 1.13.2-1
- Update to 1.13.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bzrtools-1.15.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5667)
 A collection of utilities and plugins for Bazaar-NG
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to bzr 1.15 & bzrtools 1.15.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 1.15.0-1
- Update to 1.15.0
* Sat May  2 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> 1.14.0-1
- Update to 1.14.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 chmlib-0.40-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5666)
 Library for dealing with ITSS/CHM format files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ver. 0.40 (bugfixes only)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov at gmail.com> 0.40-1
- Ver. 0.40
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.39-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 guitarix-0.04.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5699)
 Mono amplifier to JACK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

guitarix is a simple mono amplifier to JACK (Jack Audio Connection Kit) with
one input and two outputs. It is designed to get nice trash/metall/rock/blues
guitar sounds. Controls for bass, treble, gain, compressor, preamp, balance,
distortion, freeverb, crybaby(wah) and echo are available. A fixed resonator
will be used when distortion is disabled. For the 'pressure' in the sound you
can use the feedback and feedforward sliders.    guitarix includes an
experimental tuner and a JACK midi output port with 3  channels. They will be
fed by a mix from a pitch tracker and a beat detector.  You can pitch the octave
(2 up or down), choose the midi channel, the program,  the velocity and the
sensitiviy, which means how fast the note will read after  the beat detector
emits a signal. Values can be set for the beat detector for  all channels.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499975 - Review Request: guitarix - Mono amplifier to JACK
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499975
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-cangjie-1.1.0.20090309-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5664)
 Cang Jie input methods for ibus-table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-erbi-1.1.0.20090407-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5664)
 Erbi input methods for ibus-table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-wubi-1.1.0.20090327-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5664)
 Wubi input methods for ibus-table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-yong-1.1.0.20090422-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5664)
 Yong input methods for ibus-table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libhugetlbfs-2.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5650)
 A library which provides easy access to huge pages of memory
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 29 2009 Eric Munson <ebmunson at us.ibm.com> 2.4-1
- Updateing for the libhugetlbfs-2.4 release
* Wed Apr 15 2009 Eric Munson <ebmunson at us.ibm.com> 2.3-1
- Updateing for the libhugetlbfs-2.3 release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mulk-0.4.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5673)
 Multi-connection network downloader with Metalink support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497948 - Review Request: mulk - Non-interactive multi-connection network downloader with image filtering and Metalink support.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497948
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 neon-0.28.4-1.1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5675)
 An HTTP and WebDAV client library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update includes the latest release of neon, version 0.28.4.     This
release fixes several bugs in the GnuTLS support, and includes an additional fix
which marks X509v1 CA certificates as trusted during certificate verification.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri May 29 2009 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 0.28.4-1.1
- trust V1 CA certs by default (#502451)
* Fri Mar  6 2009 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 0.28.4-1
- update to 0.28.4
* Mon Jan 19 2009 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 0.28.3-3
- use install-p in "make install" (Robert Scheck, #226189)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502451 - X509v1 CA certificate is not trusted
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502451
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openttd-opengfx-0-0.4.alpha4.2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5696)
 OpenGFX replacement graphics for OpenTTD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial import of the package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491519 - Review Request: openttd-opengfx - OpenGFX replacement graphics for OpenTTD
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491519
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Data-Visitor-0.25-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5708)
 Visitor style traversal of Perl data structures
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 21 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.25-1
- auto-update to 0.25 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- altered br on perl(Any::Moose) (0 => 0.09)
- altered br on perl(Tie::ToObject) (0 => 0.01)
- altered br on perl(namespace::clean) (0 => 0.08)
* Tue May  5 2009 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.24-1
- update to 0.24
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org> - 0.22-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-sippy-0-0.8.20090429cvs.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5653)
 B2BUA (back-to-back user agent) SIP call controlling component
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #446841 - Review Request: python-sippy - B2BUA SIP call controlling component
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446841
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 shorewall-4.2.9-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5658)
 An iptables front end for firewall configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to upstream bugfix version 4.2.9. Release notes here:
http://www1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/4.2/shorewall-4.2.9/releasenotes.txt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed May 20 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.9-2
- Fix up /var/lib directories (BZ 502929)
* Wed May 20 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.9-1
- Update to version 4.2.9
* Fri May  8 2009 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.8-1
- Update to version 4.2.8
- Update shorewall-perl to 4.2.8.2
- Use global instead of define in macros to comply with packaging guidelines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #502929 - shorewall6 is not starting because of missing /var/lib/shorewall6
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502929
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 subversion-1.6.2-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5690)
 A Modern Concurrent Version Control System
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update includes the latest release of Subversion, version 1.6.2.    Version
1.6 offers many bug fixes and enhancements over 1.5, with the notable major
features:     * identical files share storage space in repository   * file-
externals support for intra-repository files   * "tree" conflicts now handled
more gracefully   * repository root relative URL support on most commands
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 1.6.2-2.fc10
- update to 1.6.2 (#500933, #469524)
* Fri Jan 30 2009 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 1.5.5-4.fc10
- rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500933 - Update to Subversion 1.6.2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500933
  [ 2 ] Bug #469524 - subversion 1.5.x - rpath problems in 64bit systems
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469524
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 system-config-samba-1.2.76-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5702)
 Samba server configuration tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu May 28 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.76-1
- handle missing smb.conf (#477944)
* Mon Apr 27 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- avoid malformed username map entries (#460274)
- fix handling unknown configuration options (#460273)
* Thu Apr  9 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.75-1
- fix sambaSection.getKey() for inverted keys
- allow auth_admin always (#494896)
* Thu Apr  9 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.74-1
- fix use via dbus
* Thu Apr  9 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.73-1
- fix antonym/inverted synonym handling regression
- various other fixes
* Tue Apr  7 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.72-1
- merge SambaBackend and UserData classes (#490050)
* Mon Apr  6 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- remove unnecessary mainWindow import
- keep section information with parser object
* Mon Mar 30 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- further backend cleanup
* Tue Mar 24 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- remove commented out old code
- don't pass off GUI objects into backend code
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.71-1
- require PolicyKit-authentication-agent from F-11 on (#487191)
* Mon Feb 23 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.70-1
- make parser cope with whitespace-less keywords (#460272)
* Mon Feb 16 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- make warnings details expander show correct text and always use accelerators
* Wed Feb 11 2009 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com>
- don't hardwire username map path (#460267)
* Thu Dec 11 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 1.2.69-1
- new smb.conf template file (#474811)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #477944 - Fails to start without an smb.conf
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477944
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Sat May 30 03:39:25 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:39:25 +1000
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <4f50e0680905290648q49088a7aw1b342ffd90d77213@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<d58417910905140546y29e63e55o3a7fca3070967037@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090514092728.630882f6@tomh>
	<1243527992.3037.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<d58417910905290601p70367214jfc80b0ea74784920@mail.gmail.com>
	<4f50e0680905290648q49088a7aw1b342ffd90d77213@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d58417910905292039qb1c19fetbbff30fce0b57eef@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Mike McLean <mikem.rtp at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just got sound over hdmi working last night. I just had to pass the
> right model to the sound driver. [3]
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496772
> [2] http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11220
> [3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502890
>
>
Where did you add "options and_hda_intel model=3stack-6ch" to?

Regards,
Masood
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090530/d1c9730e/attachment.htm>

From joel.rees at gmail.com  Sat May 30 04:20:40 2009
From: joel.rees at gmail.com (Joel Rees)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:20:40 +0900
Subject: error on yum update
Message-ID: <E3B35BA4-2D6B-44CF-A828-5E9DC3FC7AEA@gmail.com>

Doing a yum update just now. After

Package Openoffice.org-langpack-ja_JP.ppc 1:3.1.0-11.3.fc11 set to be  
updated

it spits out

/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/packages.py:387: UnicodeWarning:  
Unicode unequal comparison failed to convert both arguments to  
Unicode - interpreting them as being unequal
   if reqn != n:

and then continues with

Package openoffice.org-math.ppc 1:3.1.0-11.3.fc11 set to be updated

Does this need to be reported somewhere or just ignored?

Joel Rees



From awilliam at redhat.com  Sat May 30 04:24:03 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 21:24:03 -0700
Subject: HDMI on Intel GM965
In-Reply-To: <d58417910905292039qb1c19fetbbff30fce0b57eef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d58417910905130153g30d9d48pb86b05bf39d5fe3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<d58417910905140546y29e63e55o3a7fca3070967037@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090514092728.630882f6@tomh>
	<1243527992.3037.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<d58417910905290601p70367214jfc80b0ea74784920@mail.gmail.com>
	<4f50e0680905290648q49088a7aw1b342ffd90d77213@mail.gmail.com>
	<d58417910905292039qb1c19fetbbff30fce0b57eef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243657443.2937.238.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 13:39 +1000, Masood wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Mike McLean <mikem.rtp at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>         I just got sound over hdmi working last night. I just had to
>         pass the
>         right model to the sound driver. [3]
>         
>         [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496772
>         [2] http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11220
>         [3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502890
>         
>         
>         
> 
> Where did you add "options and_hda_intel model=3stack-6ch" to?

Just create a file named something.conf in /etc/modprobe.d . 'something'
can be anything you like. hdmi.conf , for e.g.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jkeating at redhat.com  Sat May 30 04:28:55 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 21:28:55 -0700
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <4A208C93.3070407@cchtml.com>
References: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>
	<1243628009.3037.125.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A208C93.3070407@cchtml.com>
Message-ID: <1243657735.3037.158.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 20:32 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Sounds like another feature request for a QA tool. Not only do we need 
> something for better management of bodhi/updates-testing packages, but 
> for Preview/RC images. If there was a way to know a torrent for an RC 
> was available I'd provide some seeding. I don't think I would be alone. 
> Such a tool could be extended for release ISOs. Right now I only know 
> about torrents.fedoraproject.org, which may go down during release day...

But how do we get the isos to you to seed in the first place?

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090529/0051d6da/attachment.sig>

From bruno at wolff.to  Sat May 30 04:41:18 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 23:41:18 -0500
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <1243657735.3037.158.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>
	<1243628009.3037.125.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A208C93.3070407@cchtml.com>
	<1243657735.3037.158.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090530044118.GA4407@wolff.to>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 21:28:55 -0700,
  Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 20:32 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > Sounds like another feature request for a QA tool. Not only do we need 
> > something for better management of bodhi/updates-testing packages, but 
> > for Preview/RC images. If there was a way to know a torrent for an RC 
> > was available I'd provide some seeding. I don't think I would be alone. 
> > Such a tool could be extended for release ISOs. Right now I only know 
> > about torrents.fedoraproject.org, which may go down during release day...
> 
> But how do we get the isos to you to seed in the first place?

Useful testing could be done by people by building their own images.
The may not be exactly in sync, but should be close enough to be helpful.
Paul Frields wrote up how to create install images at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/Building_an_ISO_image_for_testing
Testing live images is similar, but you run livecd-creator to build the
images.
People with local rawhide mirrors should be able to do this pretty
conveniently.



From mike at cchtml.com  Sat May 30 05:18:49 2009
From: mike at cchtml.com (Michael Cronenworth)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 00:18:49 -0500
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <1243657735.3037.158.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>	<1243628009.3037.125.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A208C93.3070407@cchtml.com>
	<1243657735.3037.158.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A20C1B9.8010009@cchtml.com>

Jesse Keating wrote:
>
> But how do we get the isos to you to seed in the first place?
>   

Either what Bruno suggested, or have an automated seeder on a 
fedoraproject.org system. It would seed only the latest pre-release/RC. 
You could set a bandwidth limit on it if preferred. Instead of that same 
fedoraproject.org system grinding to a halt under stress, multiple peers 
would be sharing the load with it. Essentially replacing the HTTP link 
with a .torrent link.



From arxs at fedoraproject.org  Sat May 30 10:32:01 2009
From: arxs at fedoraproject.org (Niels Haase)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 12:32:01 +0200
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1243629951.2937.234.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243628555.3139.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1243629951.2937.234.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <571dcba60905300332m546d508cj9485b66bb245d90f@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/29 Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 14:22 -0600, Lawrence E. Graves wrote:
>
>> > OK, I decided not to be a lazy ass and do the builds for you guys
>> > myself. Here's the packages:
>> >
>> > http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.i586.rpm (i586)
>> > http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.x86_64.rpm (x86-64)
>> > http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.src.rpm (src.rpm, just to be a good citizen)
>> >
>> > If you're suffering this issue, please grab the appropriate build for
>> > your system, give it a try, and let us know if it works. thanks!
>> > --
>> > Adam Williamson
>> > Fedora QA Community Monkey
>> > IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
>> > http://www.happyassassin.net
>
>> Thank you.-
>> Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves at risingstarmbc.com>
>
> You're welcome. er. Did they help? That's sort of the point - we need to
> know if this package solves the problem or not...

It solves the problem for me. Before I applied the packages from Adam,
a DVD film with a playtime at 2 hours was interrupted 3 times (maybe
more) with a black screen. But this is now gone! Thanks a lot Adam.

--
Regards,
Niels

> --
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> http://www.happyassassin.net
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sat May 30 11:27:17 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 07:27:17 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A211815.6070308@speakeasy.net>

I have installed the x86_64 version:

[rlc at deafeng3 ~]$ rpm -q gnome-power-manager
gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.x86_64


Bob


On 05/29/2009 03:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>    
>> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:32 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> It happens!  I see it in both GNOME and KDE environments.  I had it to
>>> never and it happens as soon as I type something in internet.   Moving
>>> the mouse or a touching a key gets me back.  It is strange but it does
>>> happen.  I guess it is not a big deal, but others may have other
>>> opinions.
>>>        
>> Update here (I just picked a random mail from the thread to reply to):
>>
>> http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/05/29/gnome-power-manager-unstableness/
>>
>> I've asked Richard, in Paul's bug -
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601 - if he could
>> possibly do a scratch build of the latest git code to aid testing. If
>> this shows up I'll reply to this thread again. Otherwise, anyone
>> adventurous enough to build the latest git themselves in order to test
>> could try that.
>>      
>
> OK, I decided not to be a lazy ass and do the builds for you guys
> myself. Here's the packages:
>
> http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.i586.rpm (i586)
> http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.x86_64.rpm (x86-64)
> http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.src.rpm (src.rpm, just to be a good citizen)
>
> If you're suffering this issue, please grab the appropriate build for
> your system, give it a try, and let us know if it works. thanks!
>    



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sat May 30 11:42:20 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 07:42:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <4A211815.6070308@speakeasy.net>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A211815.6070308@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905300740500.13106@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, 30 May 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:

> I have installed the x86_64 version:
>
> [rlc at deafeng3 ~]$ rpm -q gnome-power-manager
> gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.x86_64
>
> Bob

  since i'm the one who originally whined and moaned about this, i
figure i'm morally obligated to install it as well.  if this fix
*appears* to solve the problem, will it make it into F11 GA?

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From hughsient at gmail.com  Sat May 30 11:52:29 2009
From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 12:52:29 +0100
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905300740500.13106@localhost.localdomain>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A211815.6070308@speakeasy.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905300740500.13106@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <15e53e180905300452n44f8d245m683a96013fe231c7@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Robert P. J. Day
<rpjday at crashcourse.ca> wrote:
> ?since i'm the one who originally whined and moaned about this, i
> figure i'm morally obligated to install it as well. ?if this fix
> *appears* to solve the problem, will it make it into F11 GA?

No, it'll be a zero day update.

Richard.



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sat May 30 12:23:49 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 08:23:49 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <4A211815.6070308@speakeasy.net>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A211815.6070308@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <4A212555.7090109@speakeasy.net>

Do I need to reboot the computer after installing this update to get the 
new code working? I just had a momentary screen blackout on both my 
monitors.

Bob


On 05/30/2009 07:27 AM, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I have installed the x86_64 version:
>
> [rlc at deafeng3 ~]$ rpm -q gnome-power-manager
> gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.x86_64
>
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 05/29/2009 03:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:32 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>>
>>>> It happens!  I see it in both GNOME and KDE environments.  I had it to
>>>> never and it happens as soon as I type something in internet.   Moving
>>>> the mouse or a touching a key gets me back.  It is strange but it does
>>>> happen.  I guess it is not a big deal, but others may have other
>>>> opinions.
>>> Update here (I just picked a random mail from the thread to reply to):
>>>
>>> http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/05/29/gnome-power-manager-unstableness/ 
>>>
>>>
>>> I've asked Richard, in Paul's bug -
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601 - if he could
>>> possibly do a scratch build of the latest git code to aid testing. If
>>> this shows up I'll reply to this thread again. Otherwise, anyone
>>> adventurous enough to build the latest git themselves in order to test
>>> could try that.
>>
>> OK, I decided not to be a lazy ass and do the builds for you guys
>> myself. Here's the packages:
>>
>> http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.i586.rpm 
>> (i586)
>> http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.x86_64.rpm 
>> (x86-64)
>> http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager-2.27.1-0.4.20090529git.fc11.src.rpm 
>> (src.rpm, just to be a good citizen)
>>
>> If you're suffering this issue, please grab the appropriate build for
>> your system, give it a try, and let us know if it works. thanks!
>



From idht4n at gmail.com  Sat May 30 13:38:39 2009
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 06:38:39 -0700
Subject: problem with vncviewer clipboard
In-Reply-To: <b79371120905261424j40d9f105x925be3d0df786c59@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120905261424j40d9f105x925be3d0df786c59@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b79371120905300638r7491d889l2cd8a0aebcc3f807@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM, David L  wrote:
> I'm having vncviewer problems with f11 that I don't think
> I had with f10 with respect to receiving clipboard
> data from a vncviewer session. ?I can paste into the
> vncviewer session, but I can't copy from the vncviewer
> session and paste into my f11 X session. ?The vncserver
> it configured to send and receive clipboard. ?It's an fc6
> vncserver session that I've tested it with and I believe I
> was able to copy/paste both ways from the same vncserver
> session from f10. ?Is this a bug, or do I need to do
> something different from f10 to make this work?

FYI - bug report filed:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503271



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sat May 30 13:42:11 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:42:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090530 changes
Message-ID: <20090530134211.D94211F8217@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sat May 30 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From andre at bwh.harvard.edu  Sat May 30 13:21:24 2009
From: andre at bwh.harvard.edu (Andre Robatino)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 09:21:24 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 RC2 installation testing
Message-ID: <4A2132D4.1090507@bwh.harvard.edu>

I have made available a deltaiso from the i386 Preview DVD ISO to the 
i386 RC2 ISO.  It is 233945224 bytes (about 6-7% the size of the full 
ISO) with MD5 f0413ba9d23be4dd1778a06f35c80a43, and can be downloaded from

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=497480

(after clicking on the "Proceed to File Download Page" link).  To apply 
it, one needs to have the deltarpm package installed, and then run the 
command

applydeltaiso Fedora-11-Preview-i386-DVD.iso 
Fedora-11-Preview_rc2-i386-DVD.diso Fedora-11-i386-DVD.iso

(assuming the first two files are in the current directory).  On a 
reasonably fast machine this should complete in about 15-20 minutes.  Of 
course, one should check the sha256sum of the final ISO (listed in 
Fedora-11-i386-CHECKSUM as 
07f1229ad5717d63d2e08d556b9221be71a825ad83b9090b4632bf7208189bf6) - I 
only provided the MD5 of the diso to allow a quick check that the 
download isn't corrupted.  I don't intend to make disos for the other 
ISOs, since it would be far easier for someone who doesn't have to 
download the full ISO first.  This was just done as a demonstration. 
Since the Preview for each of the platforms is already available on 
numerous mirrors, I suggest that the RC server should only host disos, 
with the Preview first being downloaded from elsewhere.
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: smime.p7s
Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature
Size: 3266 bytes
Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090530/269eff13/attachment.bin>

From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May 30 15:08:16 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:08:16 -0400
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0905281420k4fa49b33v6981d6118cfff06b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<d3ceea380905281040p3933d505l5e6f5946ad631dff@mail.gmail.com>	<1243534263.2937.160.camel@adam.local.net>
	<5256d0b0905281420k4fa49b33v6981d6118cfff06b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A214BE0.4040903@tmr.com>

Peter Robinson wrote:
>>> the anaconda storage is very buggy since fc11 beta 2
>>>
>>> this really need's to be fixed.
>> That's...not a very useful statement. It's been buggy ever since it was
>> *completely rewritten* for the Fedora 11 cycle. Both the Anaconda
>> developers and the QA team are perfectly well aware of this; rewriting
>> such a fundamental chunk of code is _always_ going to introduce new
>> bugs, we knew this before the project was ever initiated. But we still
>> needed to rewrite the code, so there was nothing else to do.
>>
>> Just saying "it's buggy, fix it!" doesn't help anyone. We know it's
>> buggy. We're working very hard on fixing it. Constructive input would be
>> one of:
> 
> I agree to a point. It seems to me on a number of occasions over the
> history of Fedora anaconda has been the reason for release slips. I
> reported a number of bugs (or added my details to a number of bugs)
> for custom disk installations and even though they've been reported
> (beta or even alpha stage) they're still not fixed.
> 
> Anaconda definitely needs massive re-writes but I would expect that to
> land by the alpha rather than having pretty decent fixes still coming
> in after the preview release and hence the delays that have come with
> that. Not reporting fairly major bugs in the beta and still not having
> them closed now having read comments like "custom installs to single
> partitions aren't normal use cases".
> 
If install to a single partition isn't a normal use for a new release, which 
many people will install in parallel with their working release, then we are not 
talking to the same power users, administrators, and developers of non-Fedora 
software.

Swept under the rug, my aunt would have called it.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May 30 15:12:35 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:12:35 -0400
Subject: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
In-Reply-To: <4A1F0C7C.5080102@sbcglobal.net>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>	<4A1ED0F1.1020201@cchtml.com>	<db64ccf0905281125v6432d63ct3bb187889319862a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A1F0C7C.5080102@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4A214CE3.3020409@tmr.com>

Jim wrote:
> On 05/28/2009 02:25 PM, cornel panceac wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2009/5/28 Michael Cronenworth <mike at cchtml.com <mailto:mike at cchtml.com>>
>>
>>     -------- Original Message --------
>>     Subject: Re: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
>>     From: cornel panceac <cpanceac at gmail.com <mailto:cpanceac at gmail.com>>
>>     To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>>     <fedora-test-list at redhat.com <mailto:fedora-test-list at redhat.com>>
>>     Date: 05/28/2009 12:54 PM
>>
>>
>>         it would be very nice to announce the release candidates when
>>         they become available.
>>
>>
>>
>>     If you wish to participate in testing Fedora, I suggest you join
>>     the fedora-test-list. The honourable James Laska has made such an
>>     announcement[1] just today.
>>
>>     [1]
>>     https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg01272.html
>>
>>
>> to be honest, i've seen the message but i thought it was a testing 
>> report, since ive not seen the "announce" part anywhere.
>>
>> but i can agree to the fact that james laska and you all are honourable :)

> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule
> 
Since this schedule doesn't seem to mention the RC dates, it doesn't seem to 
shed much light on the RC schedule...

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From awilliam at redhat.com  Sat May 30 15:19:45 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 08:19:45 -0700
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <15e53e180905300452n44f8d245m683a96013fe231c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A211815.6070308@speakeasy.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905300740500.13106@localhost.localdomain>
	<15e53e180905300452n44f8d245m683a96013fe231c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243696785.2937.241.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 12:52 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Robert P. J. Day
> <rpjday at crashcourse.ca> wrote:
> >  since i'm the one who originally whined and moaned about this, i
> > figure i'm morally obligated to install it as well.  if this fix
> > *appears* to solve the problem, will it make it into F11 GA?
> 
> No, it'll be a zero day update.

Hi Richard - I take it that since you're following this thread, I don't
need to relay any feedback from here to the bug report?

Also just to note, the package build includes the reversion of one
specific bit of code that depends on git DeviceKit-power, as discussed
in your blog comments - I don't think that affects this issue.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sat May 30 15:26:02 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:26:02 -0400
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <1243657735.3037.158.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>	<1243628009.3037.125.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A208C93.3070407@cchtml.com>
	<1243657735.3037.158.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A21500A.3060104@tmr.com>

Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 20:32 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> Sounds like another feature request for a QA tool. Not only do we need 
>> something for better management of bodhi/updates-testing packages, but 
>> for Preview/RC images. If there was a way to know a torrent for an RC 
>> was available I'd provide some seeding. I don't think I would be alone. 
>> Such a tool could be extended for release ISOs. Right now I only know 
>> about torrents.fedoraproject.org, which may go down during release day...
> 
> But how do we get the isos to you to seed in the first place?
> 
> 
Since that's not required, the question needs no answer. The idea is to get the 
changed files to the users, then assemble them into the RC candidate at the 
tester's end. Download the changes, including any to the "make an RC" metadata 
file, then run the tool of choice to generate the install media.

The nice thing about this is that it's useful day-to-day, if I need to do an 
install I can build an install ISO which is up-to-date (and has some unique 
release number or date in the metadata), and not do the dance of installing a 
bunch of obsolete packages and then updating them, which beats the network and 
servers a lot more than people who do a lot of installs keeping an rsync 
current. It would also encourage a "standard" full install, dual layer DVD 
burners are standard these days, another reduction in load and bandwidth could 
be had.


-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sat May 30 17:21:47 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:21:47 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <1243696785.2937.241.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>	<4A211815.6070308@speakeasy.net>	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905300740500.13106@localhost.localdomain>	<15e53e180905300452n44f8d245m683a96013fe231c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243696785.2937.241.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4A216B2B.1080604@speakeasy.net>

I can say the package is definitely not fixing this issue for me. My 
monitors still go black for up to 10 seconds at random intervals.

Bob


On 05/30/2009 11:19 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 12:52 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
>    
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Robert P. J. Day
>> <rpjday at crashcourse.ca>  wrote:
>>      
>>>   since i'm the one who originally whined and moaned about this, i
>>> figure i'm morally obligated to install it as well.  if this fix
>>> *appears* to solve the problem, will it make it into F11 GA?
>>>        
>> No, it'll be a zero day update.
>>      
>
> Hi Richard - I take it that since you're following this thread, I don't
> need to relay any feedback from here to the bug report?
>
> Also just to note, the package build includes the reversion of one
> specific bit of code that depends on git DeviceKit-power, as discussed
> in your blog comments - I don't think that affects this issue.
>    



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Sat May 30 17:24:05 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 10:24:05 -0700
Subject: every so often, my screen still goes black
Message-ID: <a1b313a10905301024m60d7596ch3bbd3e50c1437d0d@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings:

I know that this has been a running problem for a while now, so I have not
chimed in.  I am still concerned about it as it is still happening...

Does anybody have a clue as to why???

Sincerely,
Rob G. Healey
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090530/521843c7/attachment.htm>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sat May 30 17:23:19 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:23:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <4A216B2B.1080604@speakeasy.net>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A211815.6070308@speakeasy.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905300740500.13106@localhost.localdomain>
	<15e53e180905300452n44f8d245m683a96013fe231c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243696785.2937.241.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A216B2B.1080604@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905301322330.1975@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, 30 May 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:

> I can say the package is definitely not fixing this issue for me. My monitors
> still go black for up to 10 seconds at random intervals.
>
> Bob

  hang on ... you mean if you do nothing, the monitor comes back?  i
don't remember that behaviour but maybe i just didn't give it enough
time.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From kdekorte at gmail.com  Sat May 30 17:38:06 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:38:06 -0600
Subject: every so often, my screen still goes black
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10905301024m60d7596ch3bbd3e50c1437d0d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905301024m60d7596ch3bbd3e50c1437d0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A216EFE.1090400@gmail.com>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 05/30/2009 11:24 AM, Rob Healey wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> I know that this has been a running problem for a while now, so I have
> not chimed in.  I am still concerned about it as it is still happening...
> 
> Does anybody have a clue as to why???
> 
> Sincerely,
> Rob G. Healey
> 

I've seen this happen, and to correct it. I have had to power cycle the
monitor (reboot the display). I have a Gateway 21" display connected via
DVI to a Intel G35 Chipset. Although I have not seen it happen in awhile.

Kevin

- -- 
Get my public GnuPG key from
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7D0BD5D1
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iEYEARECAAYFAkohbv4ACgkQ6w2kMH0L1dHJLQCfSe4EGSa11aPVtHY2N+nXb58n
05AAniVKu3yG4yL/hHHvAqknji9hggZz
=Zy6Z
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----



From an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com  Sat May 30 18:22:29 2009
From: an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com (Allen Kistler)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:22:29 -0500
Subject: Fedora 11 RC2 installation testing
In-Reply-To: <20090530160017.D31A461B219@hormel.redhat.com>
References: <20090530160017.D31A461B219@hormel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A217965.3050705@yahoo.com>

Andre Robatino wrote in fedora-test-list:
> I have made available a deltaiso from the i386 Preview DVD ISO to the 
> i386 RC2 ISO.  It is 233945224 bytes (about 6-7% the size of the full 
> ISO) with MD5 f0413ba9d23be4dd1778a06f35c80a43, and can be downloaded from
> 
> http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=497480
> 
> ...  To apply 
> it, one needs to have the deltarpm package installed, and then run the 
> command
> 
> applydeltaiso Fedora-11-Preview-i386-DVD.iso 
> Fedora-11-Preview_rc2-i386-DVD.diso Fedora-11-i386-DVD.iso
> 
> ...  Of 
> course, one should check the sha256sum of the final ISO (listed in 
> Fedora-11-i386-CHECKSUM as 
> 07f1229ad5717d63d2e08d556b9221be71a825ad83b9090b4632bf7208189bf6) 
>  
> ...  This was just done as a demonstration. ...

Hmm...  Make the technology work *for* you.  A novel idea.

Maybe the GA could be distributed the same way, like to mirrors and end 
users.  It only works for places that already have the previous image 
(i.e., Preview in this case), but that's at least the testers.

Worth it?



From icon at fedoraproject.org  Sat May 30 18:47:23 2009
From: icon at fedoraproject.org (Konstantin Ryabitsev)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 14:47:23 -0400
Subject: every so often, my screen still goes black
In-Reply-To: <a1b313a10905301024m60d7596ch3bbd3e50c1437d0d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905301024m60d7596ch3bbd3e50c1437d0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f8f6300f0905301147j5fd2928et3cb334c74ac30a11@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Rob Healey <robhealey1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings:
>
> I know that this has been a running problem for a while now, so I have not
> chimed in.? I am still concerned about it as it is still happening...
>
> Does anybody have a clue as to why???

I see it happen on an ATI card I have -- the screen blanks
periodically for about a second and then comes back. Really
frustrating when watching DVDs.

What chipset do you have?

Regards,
-- 
Konstantin Ryabitsev
Montr?al, Qu?bec



From smooge at gmail.com  Sat May 30 19:07:03 2009
From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen John Smoogen)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:07:03 -0600
Subject: every so often, my screen still goes black
In-Reply-To: <f8f6300f0905301147j5fd2928et3cb334c74ac30a11@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905301024m60d7596ch3bbd3e50c1437d0d@mail.gmail.com>
	<f8f6300f0905301147j5fd2928et3cb334c74ac30a11@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <80d7e4090905301207s26d67974t514098ab97f30eba@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
<icon at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Rob Healey <robhealey1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Greetings:
>>
>> I know that this has been a running problem for a while now, so I have not
>> chimed in.? I am still concerned about it as it is still happening...
>>
>> Does anybody have a clue as to why???
>
> I see it happen on an ATI card I have -- the screen blanks
> periodically for about a second and then comes back. Really
> frustrating when watching DVDs.
>
> What chipset do you have?
>

Mine is intel

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0a)

I think the problem is not with the card drivers but something above it.


-- 
Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux
How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed
in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice"



From arxs at fedoraproject.org  Sat May 30 19:28:47 2009
From: arxs at fedoraproject.org (Niels Haase)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:28:47 +0200
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <4A216B2B.1080604@speakeasy.net>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A211815.6070308@speakeasy.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905300740500.13106@localhost.localdomain>
	<15e53e180905300452n44f8d245m683a96013fe231c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243696785.2937.241.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A216B2B.1080604@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <571dcba60905301228w4e576535vcecd1a1d93b171a4@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/30 Robert L Cochran <cochranb at speakeasy.net>:
> I can say the package is definitely not fixing this issue for me. My
> monitors still go black for up to 10 seconds at random intervals.

Before the update, my screens got black and never get back working
until I move the mouse or press a key, maybe you experience an other
problem?

--
Regards,
Niels

>
> Bob
>
>
> On 05/30/2009 11:19 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 12:52 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Robert P. J. Day
>>> <rpjday at crashcourse.ca> ?wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ?since i'm the one who originally whined and moaned about this, i
>>>> figure i'm morally obligated to install it as well. ?if this fix
>>>> *appears* to solve the problem, will it make it into F11 GA?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, it'll be a zero day update.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Richard - I take it that since you're following this thread, I don't
>> need to relay any feedback from here to the bug report?
>>
>> Also just to note, the package build includes the reversion of one
>> specific bit of code that depends on git DeviceKit-power, as discussed
>> in your blog comments - I don't think that affects this issue.
>>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Sat May 30 20:23:20 2009
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:23:20 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: every so often, my screen still goes black
In-Reply-To: <80d7e4090905301207s26d67974t514098ab97f30eba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1b313a10905301024m60d7596ch3bbd3e50c1437d0d@mail.gmail.com>
	<f8f6300f0905301147j5fd2928et3cb334c74ac30a11@mail.gmail.com>
	<80d7e4090905301207s26d67974t514098ab97f30eba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905302221470.9320@sandbox.cz>

On Sat, 30 May 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
> <icon at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Rob Healey <robhealey1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Greetings:
>>>
>>> I know that this has been a running problem for a while now, so I have not
>>> chimed in.? I am still concerned about it as it is still happening...
>>>
>>> Does anybody have a clue as to why???
>>
>> I see it happen on an ATI card I have -- the screen blanks
>> periodically for about a second and then comes back. Really
>> frustrating when watching DVDs.
>>
>> What chipset do you have?
>>
>
> Mine is intel
>
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express
> Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0a)
>
> I think the problem is not with the card drivers but something above it.

For now, the gnome-power-manager is blamed for this. I have Radeon 9200 
and also experienced this in last two days. I did not tried the new 
g-p-m posted here in the list yet.

> -- 
> Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux

Adam Pribyl

From bruno at wolff.to  Sat May 30 19:06:45 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 14:06:45 -0500
Subject: confusion about pre upgrade and /boot partition
In-Reply-To: <4A1C94C4.5070509@nerd.com>
References: <20090527005136.GB71539@mail.scottro.net>
	<4A1C94C4.5070509@nerd.com>
Message-ID: <20090530190645.GA20113@wolff.to>

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 18:17:56 -0700,
  Rick Stevens <ricks at nerd.com> wrote:
>
> You can have /boot as part of the root filesystem if you want, but
> you'll have to make sure the root filesystem is a type grub groks (and
> that's ext2 or ext3 only at this time).  It can't be on an LVM volume
> (as mine is) or be on something esoteric like a software RAID or XFS
> filesystem, since the kernel has to be running to access those.

Software RAID 1 is an exception, since it is usable in a read only mode
without knowing about RAID.



From gene at czarc.net  Sat May 30 20:36:56 2009
From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 16:36:56 -0400
Subject: with atl1e driver: Corrupted MAC on input
Message-ID: <200905301636.57235.gene@czarc.net>

I believe I have detected a significant problem with the "atl1e" driver for 
the Attansic Technology Corp. Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 PCI-E Ethernet 
Controller (rev b0) when running Fedora 11 preview with the latest updates.

This controller is integrated on the ASUS M4A78 PRO motherboard.

Although my problem occurred when I was running scp, I believe that the 
problem could also occur with other forms of data transfer and only show up 
as corrupted data (files).  Thus, I thought this email appropriate to warn 
other users.  My current "solution" is to install another NIC.

This problem has been reported:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503288
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13404

This is no "show stopper" but may be of concern to other users.  I am posting 
a separate copies of this email to the test and user mailing lists.

Gene



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sat May 30 23:11:19 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 19:11:19 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905301322330.1975@localhost.localdomain>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>	<4A211815.6070308@speakeasy.net>	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905300740500.13106@localhost.localdomain>	<15e53e180905300452n44f8d245m683a96013fe231c7@mail.gmail.com>	<1243696785.2937.241.camel@adam.local.net>	<4A216B2B.1080604@speakeasy.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905301322330.1975@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A21BD17.7030604@speakeasy.net>

On 05/30/2009 01:23 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Sat, 30 May 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>
>    
>> I can say the package is definitely not fixing this issue for me. My monitors
>> still go black for up to 10 seconds at random intervals.
>>
>> Bob
>>      
>
>    hang on ... you mean if you do nothing, the monitor comes back?  i
> don't remember that behaviour but maybe i just didn't give it enough
> time.
>
> rday
>    
Well, maybe I'll have to observe this more carefully the next time it 
happens. I have a laptop with an Nvidia card and the laptop is connected 
to a 24" Dell flat panel monitor. Every now and then, say every 30-45 
minutes, my screen suddenly goes blank on me. My Dell flat panel 
monitor's power button changes from a bright green LED to a yellow LED 
to indicate a changing power mode.

It is almost like the laptop is going into power save mode.


When my screen blanks out on me, I have this habit of frantically moving 
my mouse, and about 5 seconds later the laptop LCD comes back on and 
then about another 3-5 seconds later the big Dell flat panel comes back 
on. It does come on eventually.

Maybe I need to let it go blank and see if the screen will come back on 
without me jiggling the mouse.

Details of my video card:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Quadro NVS 160M 
(rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Dell Device 0233
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable)
Memory at f2000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
I/O ports at df00
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: nouveau


Bob






From cra at WPI.EDU  Sat May 30 23:53:40 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 19:53:40 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <4A216B2B.1080604@speakeasy.net>
References: <670419.73524.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1243621693.2937.212.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1243626616.2937.229.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A211815.6070308@speakeasy.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905300740500.13106@localhost.localdomain>
	<15e53e180905300452n44f8d245m683a96013fe231c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243696785.2937.241.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4A216B2B.1080604@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <20090530235340.GC17721@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 01:21:47PM -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I can say the package is definitely not fixing this issue for me. My  
> monitors still go black for up to 10 seconds at random intervals.

Me neither.  It seems to happen more often (subjectively) with the 
updated gnome-power-mangager.



From cra at WPI.EDU  Sat May 30 23:55:01 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 19:55:01 -0400
Subject: every so often, my screen still goes black
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905302221470.9320@sandbox.cz>
References: <a1b313a10905301024m60d7596ch3bbd3e50c1437d0d@mail.gmail.com>
	<f8f6300f0905301147j5fd2928et3cb334c74ac30a11@mail.gmail.com>
	<80d7e4090905301207s26d67974t514098ab97f30eba@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.DEB.1.10.0905302221470.9320@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <20090530235501.GD17721@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:23:20PM +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote:
>> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express
>> Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0a)
>>
>> I think the problem is not with the card drivers but something above it.
>
> For now, the gnome-power-manager is blamed for this. I have Radeon 9200  
> and also experienced this in last two days. I did not tried the new  
> g-p-m posted here in the list yet.

Yup:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601



From jkeating at redhat.com  Sun May 31 00:19:24 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 17:19:24 -0700
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <4A21500A.3060104@tmr.com>
References: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>
	<1243628009.3037.125.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A208C93.3070407@cchtml.com>
	<1243657735.3037.158.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A21500A.3060104@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <1243729164.3037.175.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 11:26 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Since that's not required, the question needs no answer. The idea is to get the 
> changed files to the users, then assemble them into the RC candidate at the 
> tester's end. Download the changes, including any to the "make an RC" metadata 
> file, then run the tool of choice to generate the install media.
> 
> The nice thing about this is that it's useful day-to-day, if I need to do an 
> install I can build an install ISO which is up-to-date (and has some unique 
> release number or date in the metadata), and not do the dance of installing a 
> bunch of obsolete packages and then updating them, which beats the network and 
> servers a lot more than people who do a lot of installs keeping an rsync 
> current. It would also encourage a "standard" full install, dual layer DVD 
> burners are standard these days, another reduction in load and bandwidth could 
> be had.
> 

I'm afraid I'm not following your logic.  Torrents aren't free, either
the torrent server is going to have to give everybody the bits, or
somebody is going to have to download them outside of the torrent and
seed them for people.

If you have a real proposal here, I suggest you write it up as a wiki
page and bring it to the attention of mroe than just the test list.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090530/692587b5/attachment.sig>

From an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com  Sun May 31 01:04:47 2009
From: an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com (Allen Kistler)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:04:47 -0500
Subject: grub installs on wrong disk (or wants to)
Message-ID: <4A21D7AF.70002@yahoo.com>

On a multi-disk system, start with at least the first disk (sda) 
uninitialized and at least one of the others initialized (e.g., sdb, 
partitioned or not).  Install with any partitioning you desire.  When 
you get to the "install boot loader" screen, anaconda wants to install 
grub on the first previously initialized disk (sdb in this example), not 
on the actual first disk (sda).

There are two workarounds.
1. Click "Change Device" and tell anaconda to recognize a different
    (i.e., the correct) BIOS order
2. After installation, boot into the DVD rescue mode to reinstall grub
    and (very important!) to edit grub.conf for the correct hd numbers

Big deal or not?  My take is it's a bug worth fixing at some point.  For 
F11 GA, it's probably enough to include it in the Release Notes as a 
known issue (but still fix it for real later).

I've filed BZ #503299, but I thought I'd point it out for consideration 
in the Release Notes if somebody thinks it's worth it.



From wildman at triad.rr.com  Sun May 31 07:09:21 2009
From: wildman at triad.rr.com (wildman)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 03:09:21 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
Message-ID: <4A222D21.8010407@triad.rr.com>

Maybe this will help...
Has anyone considered if the video is trying to switch between DVI and 
Analog.
That seems to be what mine is doing. Two machines both Intel MB one with 
nvidia and one with ati
video adapters, both with dvi/al connections, both monitors are also 
dvi/al .
I caught it by chance doing this when it went blank for a couple minutes 
giving me time to switch it
manually using the buttons provided on the monitor. When the dvi was 
off,  the al was on,
and when the al went blank the dvi was back on.
Once I do the manual switch it settles down and dosen't repeat  for a 
long time..

Haven't found the cause as yet, but I'm digging...(in way over my head too)
~Mike



From mike at cchtml.com  Sun May 31 03:15:43 2009
From: mike at cchtml.com (Michael Cronenworth)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:15:43 -0500
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <1243729164.3037.175.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>	<1243628009.3037.125.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A208C93.3070407@cchtml.com>	<1243657735.3037.158.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A21500A.3060104@tmr.com>
	<1243729164.3037.175.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A21F65F.2000103@cchtml.com>

Jesse Keating wrote:
> I'm afraid I'm not following your logic.  Torrents aren't free, either
> the torrent server is going to have to give everybody the bits, or
> somebody is going to have to download them outside of the torrent and
> seed them for people

Jesse, I'm not following your logic about bittorrent. The torrent server 
would not "have to give everybody the bits." Is this why you are so 
against torrents? That's not how they work.

Your automated seeder would be the initial seeder. Once just one tester 
gets it, they will be able to take the load off of the automated seeder 
and spread it even faster to more people, and more people, and more 
people. The automated seeder would not be "overburdened" and would not 
slow down. Millions of people would be able to download an RC if you 
used a torrent instead of an HTTP link.



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Sun May 31 03:22:33 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:22:33 +0300
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <4A21F65F.2000103@cchtml.com>
References: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>
	<1243628009.3037.125.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A208C93.3070407@cchtml.com>
	<1243657735.3037.158.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A21500A.3060104@tmr.com>
	<1243729164.3037.175.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A21F65F.2000103@cchtml.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905302022m4b36dc9eg3622e04b73ddd932@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/31 Michael Cronenworth <mike at cchtml.com>

> Jesse Keating wrote:
>
>> I'm afraid I'm not following your logic.  Torrents aren't free, either
>> the torrent server is going to have to give everybody the bits, or
>> somebody is going to have to download them outside of the torrent and
>> seed them for people
>>
>
> Jesse, I'm not following your logic about bittorrent. The torrent server
> would not "have to give everybody the bits." Is this why you are so against
> torrents? That's not how they work.
>
> Your automated seeder would be the initial seeder. Once just one tester
> gets it, they will be able to take the load off of the automated seeder and
> spread it even faster to more people, and more people, and more people. The
> automated seeder would not be "overburdened" and would not slow down.
> Millions of people would be able to download an RC if you used a torrent
> instead of an HTTP link.


otoh, it's exactly what torrent.fedoraproject.org is doing.
let's say for the sake of simplicity that the maximum number of clients
torrent.fedoraproject.org can get is ten. once the eleventh client wants the
bits, it will no longer get them from the main site but instead from the
other leechers. and yes, torrent can get only the different bytes between
rc2 and rc1, if you already have rc1.

>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090531/a6fd6efb/attachment.htm>

From mrmazda at ij.net  Sun May 31 04:22:23 2009
From: mrmazda at ij.net (Felix Miata)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 00:22:23 -0400
Subject: grub installs on wrong disk (or wants to)
In-Reply-To: <4A21D7AF.70002@yahoo.com>
References: <4A21D7AF.70002@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A2205FF.6050304@ij.net>

On 2009/05/30 20:04 (GMT-0500) Allen Kistler composed:

> On a multi-disk system, start with at least the first disk (sda) 
> uninitialized and at least one of the others initialized (e.g., sdb, 
> partitioned or not).  Install with any partitioning you desire.  When 
> you get to the "install boot loader" screen, anaconda wants to install 
> grub on the first previously initialized disk (sdb in this example), not 
> on the actual first disk (sda).

> There are two workarounds.
> 1. Click "Change Device" and tell anaconda to recognize a different
>     (i.e., the correct) BIOS order
> 2. After installation, boot into the DVD rescue mode to reinstall grub
>     and (very important!) to edit grub.conf for the correct hd numbers

> Big deal or not?  My take is it's a bug worth fixing at some point.  For 
> F11 GA, it's probably enough to include it in the Release Notes as a 
> known issue (but still fix it for real later).

> I've filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503299 but I thought I'd point it out for consideration 
> in the Release Notes if somebody thinks it's worth it.

Since I never ever install Grub on any MBR, I might not be able to reproduce.
What happens if you leave generic code on the MBR and try to have Anaconda
put Grub on /boot or /, particularly by using partition labels? These would
amount to additional, and possibly easier, workarounds.
-- 
"A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man
keeps himself under control."	Proverbs 29:11 NIV

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/



From dgboles at comcast.net  Sun May 31 04:29:12 2009
From: dgboles at comcast.net (David)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 00:29:12 -0400
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <4A222D21.8010407@triad.rr.com>
References: <4A222D21.8010407@triad.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4A220798.5050806@comcast.net>

On 5/31/2009 3:09 AM, wildman wrote:
> Maybe this will help...
> Has anyone considered if the video is trying to switch between DVI and
> Analog.
> That seems to be what mine is doing. Two machines both Intel MB one with
> nvidia and one with ati
> video adapters, both with dvi/al connections, both monitors are also
> dvi/al .
> I caught it by chance doing this when it went blank for a couple minutes
> giving me time to switch it
> manually using the buttons provided on the monitor. When the dvi was
> off,  the al was on,
> and when the al went blank the dvi was back on.
> Once I do the manual switch it settles down and dosen't repeat  for a
> long time..
> 
> Haven't found the cause as yet, but I'm digging...(in way over my head too)
> ~Mike
> 


Knock. Knock.

Maybe an Xorg default.

http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/power/xorg_dpms/

-- 


  David



From caf at omen.com  Sun May 31 07:21:07 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 00:21:07 -0700
Subject: A Modest Suggestion to make SElinux usable.
Message-ID: <4A222FE3.30200@omen.com>

Add a menu choice to the SElinux avc denial popup
that tells SElinux: "Let it do that".

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
   Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From frankly3d at gmail.com  Sun May 31 07:38:39 2009
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:38:39 +0100
Subject: A Modest Suggestion to make SElinux usable.
In-Reply-To: <4A222FE3.30200@omen.com>
References: <4A222FE3.30200@omen.com>
Message-ID: <4A2233FF.40306@gmail.com>

Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> Add a menu choice to the SElinux avc denial popup
> that tells SElinux: "Let it do that".
>
It's called audit2allow
man audit2allow (in a terminal)

Also join Fedora selinux-list
http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list

where before you allow something with audi2allow.
Run it by the list in case you create the Titanic.

But if you want a gui for it:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#Where_can_I_request_a_newer_version_of_a_package_in_Fedora.3F

Maybe work for a feature as well?

Frank



From andre at bwh.harvard.edu  Sun May 31 07:49:38 2009
From: andre at bwh.harvard.edu (Andre Robatino)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 03:49:38 -0400
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0905302022m4b36dc9eg3622e04b73ddd932@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>
	<1243628009.3037.125.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A208C93.3070407@cchtml.com>
	<1243657735.3037.158.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A21500A.3060104@tmr.com>
	<1243729164.3037.175.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A21F65F.2000103@cchtml.com>
	<db64ccf0905302022m4b36dc9eg3622e04b73ddd932@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A223692.10800@bwh.harvard.edu>

cornel panceac wrote:

> otoh, it's exactly what torrent.fedoraproject.org 
> <http://torrent.fedoraproject.org> is doing.
> let's say for the sake of simplicity that the maximum number of clients 
> torrent.fedoraproject.org <http://torrent.fedoraproject.org> can get is 
> ten. once the eleventh client wants the bits, it will no longer get them 
> from the main site but instead from the other leechers. and yes, torrent 
> can get only the different bytes between rc2 and rc1, if you already 
> have rc1.

Bittorrent does let you save space, but it's not as efficient in this 
regard as either rsync or deltaisos.  Rsync (and bittorrent) also have 
the disadvantage that they let you start with a file which can be very 
different from the end file, which generates lots of bandwidth. 
Deltaisos starting with the Preview only work if you already have the 
Preview, which is both widely available on other mirrors and very close 
to the final file.  So putting only disos instead of full isos on the RC 
server ensures that each downloader pulls much less bandwidth from the 
RC server than at present.  Also, if there is more than one RC, 
additional disos could be provided from RC(n) to RC(n+1).  These should 
be much smaller than those from Preview to RC, which should already be 
about 1/15 the size of the full ISO.
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: smime.p7s
Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature
Size: 3266 bytes
Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090531/b7264a45/attachment.bin>

From fedora at leemhuis.info  Sun May 31 08:33:37 2009
From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:33:37 +0200
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <1243614317.3037.122.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>	<1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A1F0EFC.1090202@redhat.com>
	<4A1F964F.2000905@leemhuis.info>
	<1243614317.3037.122.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A2240E1.8000105@leemhuis.info>

On 29.05.2009 18:25, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:01 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> Just a short comment: Years ago someone made daily RCs avilable via
>> an Rsync server. Thus it was very easy to get the latest RC -- you
>> just rsynced the installer ISO you already had using rsync. As only
>> small parts of the ISO changed from day to day it was just a few
>> minutes task even with an not that fast internet connection.
> We had that not too long ago.  The amount of people trying to rsync
> it made the server completely unavailable and nobody got the bits.
> It was a disaster.

I meant the "long ago" time, back in the Core days and before you were
working for RH. Back then it worked quite well afaicr.

CU
knurd



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Sun May 31 09:30:29 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:30:29 +0300
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
In-Reply-To: <4A2240E1.8000105@leemhuis.info>
References: <1243532178.3037.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<db64ccf0905281054q8d34525gb3ce445aa8f7a9b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243534028.3037.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A1F0EFC.1090202@redhat.com> <4A1F964F.2000905@leemhuis.info>
	<1243614317.3037.122.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A2240E1.8000105@leemhuis.info>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0905310230x41542791p7a8c0f548145909e@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/31 Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora at leemhuis.info>

> On 29.05.2009 18:25, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:01 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> >> Just a short comment: Years ago someone made daily RCs avilable via
> >> an Rsync server. Thus it was very easy to get the latest RC -- you
> >> just rsynced the installer ISO you already had using rsync. As only
> >> small parts of the ISO changed from day to day it was just a few
> >> minutes task even with an not that fast internet connection.
> > We had that not too long ago.  The amount of people trying to rsync
> > it made the server completely unavailable and nobody got the bits.
> > It was a disaster.
>
> I meant the "long ago" time, back in the Core days and before you were
> working for RH. Back then it worked quite well afaicr.


maybe it will help to set priorities, like what's important, saving users
efforts, or keeping fedora servers alive? or something else?

>
>
> CU
> knurd
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
Linux counter #213090
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090531/2f85e5e7/attachment.htm>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sun May 31 10:43:26 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:43:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WAAAAAY OT] can't build openembedded/angstrom on f11
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>


  this is massively off-topic but i'm hoping someone's bored enough to
take a look.  i have a beagleboard:

  http://beagleboard.org

and am trying to build the angstrom OS for it.  the build (using the
openembedded (OE) build utility) should be fairly straightforward but
trying this under my current 64-bit install of f11 preview fails each
time thusly:

... snip ...

ccache gcc
-isystem/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/include
-O2 -Wunused -Wall -static
-L/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib
-Wl,-rpath-link,/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib
-Wl,-rpath,/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib
-Wl,-O1 -o insmod.static insmod.o
mv -f .deps/tables.Tpo .deps/tables.Po
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [insmod.static] Error 1
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
modinfo.c: In function 'main':
modinfo.c:338: warning: 'infosize' may be used uninitialized in this
function
mv -f .deps/modinfo.Tpo .deps/modinfo.Po
make: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
FATAL: oe_runmake failed

  i've documented, step by step, what i did here:

http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Angstrom#Building_Angstrom_from_scratch_with_OpenEmbedded

and it's frustrating since others have reported normal success (some
running under fedora 8).  i have no idea why i keep getting this error
-- maybe it's related to running 64-bit, i don't know.  others are
building just fine under other distros as well, so i'm baffled.

  thoughts?  at this point, i'm really open to suggestions.  if you've
never played with openembedded, here's your chance.  :-)

rday
--


========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From rc040203 at freenet.de  Sun May 31 10:55:30 2009
From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:55:30 +0200
Subject: [WAAAAAY OT] can't build openembedded/angstrom on f11
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A226222.8090906@freenet.de>

Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   this is massively off-topic but i'm hoping someone's bored enough to
> take a look.  i have a beagleboard:


> ccache gcc
> -isystem/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/include
> -O2 -Wunused -Wall -static
> -L/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib
> -Wl,-rpath-link,/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib
> -Wl,-rpath,/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib
> -Wl,-O1 -o insmod.static insmod.o
> mv -f .deps/tables.Tpo .deps/tables.Po
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make: *** [insmod.static] Error 1
> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
> modinfo.c: In function 'main':
> modinfo.c:338: warning: 'infosize' may be used uninitialized in this
> function
> mv -f .deps/modinfo.Tpo .deps/modinfo.Po
> make: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
> FATAL: oe_runmake failed
> 
>   i've documented, step by step, what i did here:
> 
> http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Angstrom#Building_Angstrom_from_scratch_with_OpenEmbedded
> 
> and it's frustrating since others have reported normal success (some
> running under fedora 8).  i have no idea why i keep getting this error
> -- maybe it's related to running 64-bit, i don't know.  others are
> building just fine under other distros as well, so i'm baffled.

The gcc call above seems to be trying to link statically against libc 
(An absurd idea, IMNSHO).

In FC11, the static libs from glibc have been split out into a separate 
"glibc-static" package.

It's likely getting rid of the static linkage above or
installing "glibc-static" (BuildRequires: glibc-static) will help.

Ralf



From andre at bwh.harvard.edu  Sun May 31 11:03:10 2009
From: andre at bwh.harvard.edu (Andre Robatino)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 07:03:10 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 RC2 installation testing
In-Reply-To: <4A2132D4.1090507@bwh.harvard.edu>
References: <4A2132D4.1090507@bwh.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <4A2263EE.6090206@bwh.harvard.edu>

Andre Robatino wrote:
> I have made available a deltaiso from the i386 Preview DVD ISO to the 
> i386 RC2 ISO.  It is 233945224 bytes (about 6-7% the size of the full 
> ISO) with MD5 f0413ba9d23be4dd1778a06f35c80a43, and can be downloaded from
> 
> http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=497480
> 
> (after clicking on the "Proceed to File Download Page" link).  To apply 
> it, one needs to have the deltarpm package installed, and then run the 
> command
> 
> applydeltaiso Fedora-11-Preview-i386-DVD.iso 
> Fedora-11-Preview_rc2-i386-DVD.diso Fedora-11-i386-DVD.iso
> 
> (assuming the first two files are in the current directory).  On a 
> reasonably fast machine this should complete in about 15-20 minutes.  Of 
> course, one should check the sha256sum of the final ISO (listed in 
> Fedora-11-i386-CHECKSUM as 
> 07f1229ad5717d63d2e08d556b9221be71a825ad83b9090b4632bf7208189bf6) - I 
> only provided the MD5 of the diso to allow a quick check that the 
> download isn't corrupted.  I don't intend to make disos for the other 
> ISOs, since it would be far easier for someone who doesn't have to 
> download the full ISO first.  This was just done as a demonstration. 
> Since the Preview for each of the platforms is already available on 
> numerous mirrors, I suggest that the RC server should only host disos, 
> with the Preview first being downloaded from elsewhere.

I've also made available a deltaiso from the x86_64 Preview DVD ISO to 
the x86_64 RC2 ISO.  It is 240478767 bytes (5.6% of the size of the full 
ISO) with MD5 e82661f647b1509cefe7b63c8ad5e14b, and can be downloaded from

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=497599

(after waiting for the 10-second countdown, then clicking on the 
"Proceed to File Download Page" link).  The procedure for applying it is 
similar to the one for i386.

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: smime.p7s
Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature
Size: 3266 bytes
Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090531/7de1f894/attachment.bin>

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sun May 31 11:02:52 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 07:02:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WAAAAAY OT] can't build openembedded/angstrom on f11
In-Reply-To: <4A226222.8090906@freenet.de>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A226222.8090906@freenet.de>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310701320.13018@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 31 May 2009, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

> Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> > ccache gcc
> > -isystem/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/include
> > -O2 -Wunused -Wall -static
> > -L/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib
> > -Wl,-rpath-link,/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib
> > -Wl,-rpath,/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib
> > -Wl,-O1 -o insmod.static insmod.o
> > mv -f .deps/tables.Tpo .deps/tables.Po
> > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > make: *** [insmod.static] Error 1
> > make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
> > modinfo.c: In function 'main':
> > modinfo.c:338: warning: 'infosize' may be used uninitialized in this
> > function
> > mv -f .deps/modinfo.Tpo .deps/modinfo.Po
> > make: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
> > FATAL: oe_runmake failed

> The gcc call above seems to be trying to link statically against
> libc (An absurd idea, IMNSHO).
>
> In FC11, the static libs from glibc have been split out into a
> separate "glibc-static" package.
>
> It's likely getting rid of the static linkage above or installing
> "glibc-static" (BuildRequires: glibc-static) will help.

  ooooh, that could be it.  amusingly, i was looking at that earlier
this morning and thinking, "is it the static linkage that's doing
this?"  and, sure enough, that package wasn't installed on my system
so i'll test it shortly.  thanks.

  um ... given your wording, can i assume that f11 is the first
fedora where this package has been broken out?  which would explain
why this builds just fine under f10 for others?

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun May 31 11:09:52 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:39:52 +0530
Subject: [WAAAAAY OT] can't build openembedded/angstrom on f11
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310701320.13018@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>	<4A226222.8090906@freenet.de>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310701320.13018@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A226580.9070000@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/31/2009 04:32 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>   um ... given your wording, can i assume that f11 is the first
> fedora where this package has been broken out?  which would explain
> why this builds just fine under f10 for others?

Correct.

Rahul



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sun May 31 11:12:21 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 07:12:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WAAAAAY OT] can't build openembedded/angstrom on f11
In-Reply-To: <4A226580.9070000@fedoraproject.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A226222.8090906@freenet.de>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310701320.13018@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A226580.9070000@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310711310.9564@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 31 May 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> On 05/31/2009 04:32 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> >   um ... given your wording, can i assume that f11 is the first
> > fedora where this package has been broken out?  which would explain
> > why this builds just fine under f10 for others?
>
> Correct.

  that appears to have fixed it.  yee ha!  buckets of thanks.  i can
now update the wiki page to cover f11.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun May 31 11:17:29 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:47:29 +0530
Subject: [WAAAAAY OT] can't build openembedded/angstrom on f11
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310711310.9564@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>	<4A226222.8090906@freenet.de>	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310701320.13018@localhost.localdomain>	<4A226580.9070000@fedoraproject.org>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310711310.9564@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A226749.3040206@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/31/2009 04:42 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Sun, 31 May 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> 
>> On 05/31/2009 04:32 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>
>>>   um ... given your wording, can i assume that f11 is the first
>>> fedora where this package has been broken out?  which would explain
>>> why this builds just fine under f10 for others?
>>
>> Correct.
> 
>   that appears to have fixed it.  yee ha!  buckets of thanks.  i can
> now update the wiki page to cover f11.

You might want to tell upstream that static linking isn't the
recommended path.

http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html

Rahul



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sun May 31 11:21:24 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 07:21:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WAAAAAY OT] can't build openembedded/angstrom on f11
In-Reply-To: <4A226749.3040206@fedoraproject.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A226222.8090906@freenet.de>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310701320.13018@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A226580.9070000@fedoraproject.org>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310711310.9564@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A226749.3040206@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310720230.8471@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 31 May 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> On 05/31/2009 04:42 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > On Sun, 31 May 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >
> >> On 05/31/2009 04:32 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >>
> >>>   um ... given your wording, can i assume that f11 is the first
> >>> fedora where this package has been broken out?  which would explain
> >>> why this builds just fine under f10 for others?
> >>
> >> Correct.
> >
> >   that appears to have fixed it.  yee ha!  buckets of thanks.  i can
> > now update the wiki page to cover f11.
>
> You might want to tell upstream that static linking isn't the
> recommended path.
>
> http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html

  and yet f11 contains the statically-linked "insmod.static"
executable, which is exactly what is being created at that step.  so
what's the difference?

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun May 31 11:31:00 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 17:01:00 +0530
Subject: [WAAAAAY OT] can't build openembedded/angstrom on f11
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310720230.8471@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>	<4A226222.8090906@freenet.de>	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310701320.13018@localhost.localdomain>	<4A226580.9070000@fedoraproject.org>	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310711310.9564@localhost.localdomain>	<4A226749.3040206@fedoraproject.org>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310720230.8471@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A226A74.4050206@fedoraproject.org>

On 05/31/2009 04:51 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

> 
>   and yet f11 contains the statically-linked "insmod.static"
> executable, which is exactly what is being created at that step.  so
> what's the difference?

The static libraries are provided in Fedora as a workaround to get such
applications building but it isn't the recommended path.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Packaging_Static_Libraries

Rahul



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sun May 31 11:33:33 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 07:33:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WAAAAAY OT] can't build openembedded/angstrom on f11
In-Reply-To: <4A226A74.4050206@fedoraproject.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A226222.8090906@freenet.de>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310701320.13018@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A226580.9070000@fedoraproject.org>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310711310.9564@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A226749.3040206@fedoraproject.org>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310720230.8471@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A226A74.4050206@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310733200.27453@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 31 May 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> On 05/31/2009 04:51 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> >
> >   and yet f11 contains the statically-linked "insmod.static"
> > executable, which is exactly what is being created at that step.  so
> > what's the difference?
>
> The static libraries are provided in Fedora as a workaround to get such
> applications building but it isn't the recommended path.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Packaging_Static_Libraries

  gotcha.  thanks.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Sun May 31 12:42:19 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 05:42:19 -0700
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
References: <4A222D21.8010407@triad.rr.com> <4A220798.5050806@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <87ljodbg0k.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>


David <dgboles at comcast.net> writes:
> Maybe an Xorg default.
>
> http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/power/xorg_dpms/

Curious, Xorg does appear to be initialized with the DPMS timers all set
to "0".

$ xset q
...
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Standby: 0    Suspend: 0    Off: 0
  DPMS is Enabled
  Monitor is On

Looks like gnome and Xorg both are trying to DPMS blank the screen.

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Sun May 31 12:56:18 2009
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 14:56:18 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
In-Reply-To: <87ljodbg0k.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>
References: <4A222D21.8010407@triad.rr.com> <4A220798.5050806@comcast.net>
	<87ljodbg0k.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905311444310.7392@sandbox.cz>

On Sun, 31 May 2009, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:

>
> David <dgboles at comcast.net> writes:
>> Maybe an Xorg default.
>>
>> http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/power/xorg_dpms/
>
> Curious, Xorg does appear to be initialized with the DPMS timers all set
> to "0".
>
> $ xset q
> ...
> DPMS (Energy Star):
>  Standby: 0    Suspend: 0    Off: 0
>  DPMS is Enabled
>  Monitor is On

This is "normal" behavior of g-p-m for a long time. It manages timeouts by 
itself setting usuall Xorg DPMS to 0. I've reported a bug 
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=543956 some time ago, but this 
is probably the best it can do. This has nothing to do with this 
problem, unless Xorg changed its behavior and is kicking in DPMS at 0, 
instead "never".

> Looks like gnome and Xorg both are trying to DPMS blank the screen.
>
> -wolfgang

Adam Pribyl



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sun May 31 14:15:39 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:15:39 +0200
Subject: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
References: <7582136.33651243622832747.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com>
	<1243628009.3037.125.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A208C93.3070407@cchtml.com>
	<1243657735.3037.158.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4A21500A.3060104@tmr.com>
	<1243729164.3037.175.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A21F65F.2000103@cchtml.com>
	<db64ccf0905302022m4b36dc9eg3622e04b73ddd932@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A223692.10800@bwh.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <gvu3eb$l33$7@ger.gmane.org>

Andre Robatino wrote:
> Bittorrent does let you save space, but it's not as efficient in this
> regard as either rsync or deltaisos.  Rsync (and bittorrent) also have
> the disadvantage that they let you start with a file which can be very
> different from the end file, which generates lots of bandwidth.
> Deltaisos starting with the Preview only work if you already have the
> Preview, which is both widely available on other mirrors and very close
> to the final file.  So putting only disos instead of full isos on the RC
> server ensures that each downloader pulls much less bandwidth from the
> RC server than at present.  Also, if there is more than one RC,
> additional disos could be provided from RC(n) to RC(n+1).  These should
> be much smaller than those from Preview to RC, which should already be
> about 1/15 the size of the full ISO.

Well, Bittorrent could be used to transfer the deltaisos.

        Kevin Kofler



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sun May 31 14:32:05 2009
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:32:05 +0200
Subject: A Modest Suggestion to make SElinux usable.
References: <4A222FE3.30200@omen.com> <4A2233FF.40306@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gvu4d6$re$1@ger.gmane.org>

Frank Murphy wrote:
> It's called audit2allow
> man audit2allow (in a terminal)

The problem is that audit2allow only works for next time. You can't get that
one attempt to get through. And the way SELinux is designed, what the
original poster (OP) wants is just not possible. SELinux denies the access
immediately, then setroubleshoot gets asynchronously notified and shows the
warning. At that point, it's too late to allow the action. To work as the
OP wants, it would have to block the application until the answer from the
user comes (which is how those Window$ implementations which do offer that
option (e.g. UAC, most software firewalls and antivirus software etc.)
work). That can work in a pure GUI environment, but it won't work if
SELinux is blocking some system service used by the entire GUI (e.g. X11)
and it's definitely the wrong thing to do on a server.

In short, SELinux is not really designed for desktop usage. It's designed to
work more generally, but the desktop suffers as a result.

A possible way to fix this would be to:
* add a blocking mode to SELinux, which applications can explicitly enable
and which issues prompts through an authentication agent (the PolicyKit
authentication agent can be reused) if an action would be denied and
* have the constructors for GUI apps (gtk_init and the QApplication
constructor) default to setting the blocking mode (but of course the
authentication agent itself needs to have it disabled or we can end up in
infinite loops on misconfigured systems),
but I have no idea how easy that would be to implement (securely) nor
whether the SELinux folks would like the idea.

Personally, I just disable SELinux entirely.

        Kevin Kofler



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sun May 31 14:36:18 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 14:36:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20090531 changes
Message-ID: <20090531143618.8A9D41B8003@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sun May 31 06:15:06 UTC 2009

Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7





From kmaraas at broadpark.no  Sun May 31 15:47:54 2009
From: kmaraas at broadpark.no (Kjartan Maraas)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 17:47:54 +0200
Subject: rawhide report: 20090528 changes
In-Reply-To: <1243613487.2937.189.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <20090528140501.4121D1F8217@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<4A1F714C.80905@fedoraproject.org>
	<1243613487.2937.189.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1243784874.9220.4.camel@nc6400>

fr., 29.05.2009 kl. 09.11 -0700, skrev Adam Williamson:
> 
> This mostly relates to bug 502077, filed on May 21st (so quite late in
> cycle). Intel i865 cards were experiencing random hangs with kernel
> modesetting enabled (which was the default). There was a single
> unconfirmed report of the same issue affect i845, and another single
> unconfirmed report for i855.
> 

I just tried the latest kernel now and was rewarded with a hang during
boot.

I've filed a bug earlier about hangs with more information here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492686

This all started around the time KMS was introduced, and the only way
I've found to have a working system is to pass maxcpus=1 to the boot
command line. The latest kernel even hung with this passed to it.

Cheers
Kjartan




From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Sun May 31 15:47:27 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 11:17:27 -0430
Subject: OT: Firefox 3.5beta "New Window" behaviour
Message-ID: <1243784847.2706.46.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

I suspect this has nothing to do with Fedora, but if you will indulge me
for a moment:

In FF N, for N < 3.5, I used to click on a URL in (say) a mail message,
and get a new browser window. However when I clicked on a URL from
within a browser window, I got a new tab. This was how I liked things to
work.

In FF 3.5beta this fine distinction seems to have been lost. The
preferences setting "open new window as tab" applies universally. Since
I keep my mailer and my browser on different desktops, this means that
every click from the mailer switches desktops, whereas previously I
would just get a new browser window on the *same* desktop.

If anyone knows a magic setting to fix this, I'm all ears. Otherwise I
guess I'll report it upstream.

poc



From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk  Sun May 31 18:15:08 2009
From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:15:08 -0600
Subject: OT: Firefox 3.5beta "New Window" behaviour
In-Reply-To: <1243784847.2706.46.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1243784847.2706.46.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4A22C92C.8010106@yahoo.co.uk>

On 05/31/2009 09:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I suspect this has nothing to do with Fedora, but if you will indulge me
> for a moment:
>
> In FF N, for N < 3.5, I used to click on a URL in (say) a mail message,
> and get a new browser window. However when I clicked on a URL from
> within a browser window, I got a new tab. This was how I liked things to
> work.
>   

Does middle button click (as opposed to left button click) on a link in 
mail message open new window or new tab?

thufor




		
___________________________________________________________ 
To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sun May 31 19:47:11 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 15:47:11 -0400
Subject: [WAAAAAY OT] can't build openembedded/angstrom on f11
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A22DEBF.5060409@speakeasy.net>

Maybe I'll even buy a Beagleboard. This took several hours to do, all 
day on my Dell Latitude E6400 laptop in fact, but it seems to have worked.

Results under Fedora 11, meaning this version exactly

[rlc at deafeng3 openembedded]$ uname -a
Linux deafeng3.signtype.info 2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed May 27 
17:27:08 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[rlc at deafeng3 openembedded]$ cat /etc/fedora-release
Fedora release 11 (Leonidas)


[From `bitbake base-image`:]

NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 2946 tasks of which 0 didn't need to be 
rerun and 0 failed.
NOTE: build 200905310908: completed
[rlc at deafeng3 openembedded]$ bitbake console-image
NOTE: Handling BitBake files: - (6650/6650) [100 %]
NOTE: Parsing finished. 6368 cached, 0 parsed, 282 skipped, 0 masked.
NOTE: Cache is clean, not saving.
NOTE: build 200905311345: started
.....
NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 2928 tasks of which 2890 didn't need to 
be rerun and 0 failed.
NOTE: build 200905311345: completed

[rlc at deafeng3 openembedded]$ bitbake x11-image
NOTE: Handling BitBake files: - (6650/6650) [100 %]
NOTE: Parsing finished. 6368 cached, 0 parsed, 282 skipped, 0 masked.
NOTE: Cache is clean, not saving.
NOTE: build 200905311351: started

OE Build Configuration:
BB_VERSION = "1.8.12"
METADATA_BRANCH = "stable/2009"
METADATA_REVISION = "901e7c5b47b9f3695cef841e6c8663d37c932fec"
TARGET_ARCH = "arm"
TARGET_OS = "linux-gnueabi"
MACHINE = "beagleboard"
DISTRO = "angstrom"
DISTRO_VERSION = "2009.X-test-20090531"
TARGET_FPU = "hard"

NOTE: Resolving any missing task queue dependencies
NOTE: preferred version git of u-boot not available (for item u-boot)
NOTE: preferred version git of u-boot not available (for item u-boot)
....
....
NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 6096 tasks of which 2908 didn't need to 
be rerun and 0 failed.
NOTE: build 200905311351: completed




On 05/31/2009 06:43 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>    this is massively off-topic but i'm hoping someone's bored enough to
> take a look.  i have a beagleboard:
>
>    http://beagleboard.org
>
> and am trying to build the angstrom OS for it.  the build (using the
> openembedded (OE) build utility) should be fairly straightforward but
> trying this under my current 64-bit install of f11 preview fails each
> time thusly:
>
> ... snip ...
>
> ccache gcc
> -isystem/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/include
> -O2 -Wunused -Wall -static
> -L/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib
> -Wl,-rpath-link,/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib
> -Wl,-rpath,/home/rpjday/oe/angstrom-dev/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib
> -Wl,-O1 -o insmod.static insmod.o
> mv -f .deps/tables.Tpo .deps/tables.Po
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make: *** [insmod.static] Error 1
> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
> modinfo.c: In function 'main':
> modinfo.c:338: warning: 'infosize' may be used uninitialized in this
> function
> mv -f .deps/modinfo.Tpo .deps/modinfo.Po
> make: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
> FATAL: oe_runmake failed
>
>    i've documented, step by step, what i did here:
>
> http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Angstrom#Building_Angstrom_from_scratch_with_OpenEmbedded
>
> and it's frustrating since others have reported normal success (some
> running under fedora 8).  i have no idea why i keep getting this error
> -- maybe it's related to running 64-bit, i don't know.  others are
> building just fine under other distros as well, so i'm baffled.
>
>    thoughts?  at this point, i'm really open to suggestions.  if you've
> never played with openembedded, here's your chance.  :-)
>
> rday
> --
>
>
> ========================================================================
> Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
>
>          Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.
>
> Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
> Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
> Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
> ========================================================================
>
>    



From wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com  Sun May 31 20:29:02 2009
From: wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200905 at gmail.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 13:29:02 -0700
Subject: every so often, screen just goes black
References: <4A222D21.8010407@triad.rr.com> <4A220798.5050806@comcast.net>
	<87ljodbg0k.fsf@arbol.wsrcc.com>
	<alpine.DEB.1.10.0905311444310.7392@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <87prdpow35.fsf@ancho.wsrcc.com>


Adam Pribyl <pribyl at lowlevel.cz> writes:
> This is "normal" behavior of g-p-m for a long time. It manages
> timeouts by itself setting usuall Xorg DPMS to 0. I've reported a bug
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=543956 some time ago, but
> this is probably the best it can do. This has nothing to do with this
> problem, unless Xorg changed its behavior and is kicking in DPMS at 0,
> instead "never".

Perhaps the people experiencing the blanking problem could set the dpms
timers to some huge value and see if the problem goes away.   Eg.

        xset dpms 1000000 2000000 3000000

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht              Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sun May 31 20:45:03 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:45:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WAAAAAY OT] can't build openembedded/angstrom on f11
In-Reply-To: <4A22DEBF.5060409@speakeasy.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>
	<4A22DEBF.5060409@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905311641190.21193@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 31 May 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:

> Maybe I'll even buy a Beagleboard. This took several hours to do,
> all day on my Dell Latitude E6400 laptop in fact, but it seems to
> have worked.
>
> Results under Fedora 11, meaning this version exactly
>
> [rlc at deafeng3 openembedded]$ uname -a
> Linux deafeng3.signtype.info 2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed May 27
> 17:27:08 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> [rlc at deafeng3 openembedded]$ cat /etc/fedora-release
> Fedora release 11 (Leonidas)
>
>
> [From `bitbake base-image`:]
>
> NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 2946 tasks of which 0 didn't need to be rerun
> and 0 failed.
> NOTE: build 200905310908: completed
> [rlc at deafeng3 openembedded]$ bitbake console-image
> NOTE: Handling BitBake files: - (6650/6650) [100 %]
> NOTE: Parsing finished. 6368 cached, 0 parsed, 282 skipped, 0 masked.
> NOTE: Cache is clean, not saving.
> NOTE: build 200905311345: started
> .....
> NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 2928 tasks of which 2890 didn't need to be
> rerun and 0 failed.
> NOTE: build 200905311345: completed
>
> [rlc at deafeng3 openembedded]$ bitbake x11-image
> NOTE: Handling BitBake files: - (6650/6650) [100 %]
> NOTE: Parsing finished. 6368 cached, 0 parsed, 282 skipped, 0 masked.
> NOTE: Cache is clean, not saving.
> NOTE: build 200905311351: started
>
> OE Build Configuration:
> BB_VERSION = "1.8.12"
> METADATA_BRANCH = "stable/2009"
> METADATA_REVISION = "901e7c5b47b9f3695cef841e6c8663d37c932fec"
> TARGET_ARCH = "arm"
> TARGET_OS = "linux-gnueabi"
> MACHINE = "beagleboard"
> DISTRO = "angstrom"
> DISTRO_VERSION = "2009.X-test-20090531"
> TARGET_FPU = "hard"
>
> NOTE: Resolving any missing task queue dependencies
> NOTE: preferred version git of u-boot not available (for item u-boot)
> NOTE: preferred version git of u-boot not available (for item u-boot)
> ....
> ....
> NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 6096 tasks of which 2908 didn't need to be
> rerun and 0 failed.
> NOTE: build 200905311351: completed

  please tell me you had the glibc-static package installed, cuz if
you didn't, then i'm going to be confused again.  at the moment,
mine's still building but i'm past the point where it was failing
before because of that issue.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From partha1b at gmail.com  Sun May 31 20:50:51 2009
From: partha1b at gmail.com (Partha Bagchi)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:50:51 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 RC1 installation testing
In-Reply-To: <1243527751.2797.71.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1243520334.2797.60.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<4A1EA81B.7000001@cox.net>
	<1243524520.2797.70.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<a9274eb10905280910x189ffbacmf4512cf4f34b13ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243527751.2797.71.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <e14212e0905311350p60c0102dx7a4a67d8a121f576@mail.gmail.com>

I am testing RC1. I have to say that using ath9k is more problematic
than before. Now, I can't get a signal in my backyard, where the
connection icon shows a 40% signal, ping says destination host is
unreachable when pinging the router:
ping 192.168.1.1
PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
>From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
>From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
>From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
^C
--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 5224ms

uname -a
Linux Bordeaux 2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i686.PAE #1 SMP Wed May 27 17:28:22
EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

lspci:
...
06:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X
Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
...

[partha at Bordeaux ~]$ rpm -qa |grep -i network
NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.1-4.git20090414.fc11.i586
NetworkManager-vpnc-0.7.0.99-1.fc11.i586
system-config-network-1.5.97-1.fc11.noarch
NetworkManager-glib-0.7.1-4.git20090414.fc11.i586
NetworkManager-openvpn-0.7.0.99-1.fc11.i586
system-config-network-tui-1.5.97-1.fc11.noarch
NetworkManager-0.7.1-4.git20090414.fc11.i586
NetworkManager-openconnect-0.7.0.99-4.fc11.i586

No additional information in /var/log/messages.

Was working fine in Fedora 10 and also, works fine when I am"nearer"
to the router. Seems to me some sort of regression.

Thanks,
Partha


On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:22 PM, James Laska <jlaska at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 17:10 +0100, Paul Black wrote:
>> 2009/5/28 James Laska wrote:
>> >
>> > > Where can we get RC1?
>> >
>> > I've buried the link under the "What to test" section -
>> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC1_Install_Test_Results#What_To_Test
>>
>> Will these be available via rsync?
>>
>> I've tried the instructions here:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/Building_an_ISO_image_for_testing
>> and they don't work; "rsync rsync://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt" shows
>> the stage directory is not present.
>
> Sorry, I don't believe these will be available for rsync. ?My
> understanding is they are made available for high-bandwith testers to
> assist with release candidate validation.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Sun May 31 21:38:38 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 17:08:38 -0430
Subject: OT: Firefox 3.5beta "New Window" behaviour
In-Reply-To: <4A22C92C.8010106@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <1243784847.2706.46.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<4A22C92C.8010106@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1243805918.2706.51.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 12:15 -0600, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote:
> On 05/31/2009 09:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I suspect this has nothing to do with Fedora, but if you will indulge me
> > for a moment:
> >
> > In FF N, for N < 3.5, I used to click on a URL in (say) a mail message,
> > and get a new browser window. However when I clicked on a URL from
> > within a browser window, I got a new tab. This was how I liked things to
> > work.
> >   
> 
> Does middle button click (as opposed to left button click) on a link in 
> mail message open new window or new tab?

>From a browser window it get a new tab, independantly of the preferences
setting. However this doesn't let me open a new window when clicking
from my mailer, which is what I want. External apps such as the mailer
usually only react to left-click in any case.

poc



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sun May 31 23:14:48 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:14:48 -0400
Subject: [WAAAAAY OT] can't build openembedded/angstrom on f11
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905311641190.21193@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905310636560.2356@localhost.localdomain>	<4A22DEBF.5060409@speakeasy.net>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0905311641190.21193@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4A230F68.3020905@speakeasy.net>

>
>    please tell me you had the glibc-static package installed, cuz if
> you didn't, then i'm going to be confused again.  at the moment,
> mine's still building but i'm past the point where it was failing
> before because of that issue.
>
> rday
> --
>    

Yes I installed glibc-static and texi2html after carefully reading your 
posts, your wiki, the Angstrom web page and the initial `bitbake 
base-image` output. Success in building software comes from reading the 
docs, initial failure, and trying again. The build took a long, long 
time for me and all worked well.

Since you have a Beagle Board can you post photos of it in use on your 
wiki? Or send me photos offlist, if possible? I'm very curious as to 
your results. If my guess is correct you even had to pay additional 
taxes to get the Beagle Board from Digi-Key...unless, of course, you 
drove to Digi-Key's location and took delivery at their sales counter. 
Not that I know if they do that. So you must have a strong reason to get 
this board.

Bob




> ========================================================================
> Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
>
>          Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.
>
> Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
> Linked In:                             http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
> Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
> ========================================================================
>
>    



From davidsen at tmr.com  Sun May 31 23:34:54 2009
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:34:54 -0400
Subject: Fedora 11 RC1 installation testing
In-Reply-To: <e14212e0905311350p60c0102dx7a4a67d8a121f576@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1243520334.2797.60.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<4A1EA81B.7000001@cox.net>	<1243524520.2797.70.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>	<a9274eb10905280910x189ffbacmf4512cf4f34b13ed@mail.gmail.com>	<1243527751.2797.71.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com>
	<e14212e0905311350p60c0102dx7a4a67d8a121f576@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A23141E.8060804@tmr.com>

Partha Bagchi wrote:
> I am testing RC1. I have to say that using ath9k is more problematic
> than before. Now, I can't get a signal in my backyard, where the
> connection icon shows a 40% signal, ping says destination host is
> unreachable when pinging the router:
> ping 192.168.1.1
> PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
>>From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
>>From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
>>From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
> ^C
> --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
> 6 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 5224ms
> 
I believe that you will find this is a rounting problem, and IIRC there is a 
default route to the destination, else you would get "no route to host," but 
some network node refused to pass the packets, and retuned the ICMP packets 
saying so.

If "netstat -rn" doesn't shed any light on this, use of tcpdump may. I don't 
find any useful (to me) information in the rest of this, it is as I expect. I 
suppose that you could get this behavior if the route were in place but the 
router didn't correctly handle the packets, or wasn't passing icmp. You comment 
on "nearer" suggests that.

My experience has been that other than the fact that the checkbox for starting a 
connection at boot is still a decoration rather than a feature, FC11 is working 
slightly better than FC10 on my laptops.

Hope any of this helps.

> uname -a
> Linux Bordeaux 2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i686.PAE #1 SMP Wed May 27 17:28:22
> EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> 
> lspci:
> ...
> 06:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X
> Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
> ...
> 
> [partha at Bordeaux ~]$ rpm -qa |grep -i network
> NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.1-4.git20090414.fc11.i586
> NetworkManager-vpnc-0.7.0.99-1.fc11.i586
> system-config-network-1.5.97-1.fc11.noarch
> NetworkManager-glib-0.7.1-4.git20090414.fc11.i586
> NetworkManager-openvpn-0.7.0.99-1.fc11.i586
> system-config-network-tui-1.5.97-1.fc11.noarch
> NetworkManager-0.7.1-4.git20090414.fc11.i586
> NetworkManager-openconnect-0.7.0.99-4.fc11.i586
> 
> No additional information in /var/log/messages.
> 
> Was working fine in Fedora 10 and also, works fine when I am"nearer"
> to the router. Seems to me some sort of regression.
> 
> Thanks,
> Partha
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:22 PM, James Laska <jlaska at redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 17:10 +0100, Paul Black wrote:
>>> 2009/5/28 James Laska wrote:
>>>>> Where can we get RC1?
>>>> I've buried the link under the "What to test" section -
>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_RC1_Install_Test_Results#What_To_Test
>>> Will these be available via rsync?
>>>
>>> I've tried the instructions here:
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/Building_an_ISO_image_for_testing
>>> and they don't work; "rsync rsync://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt" shows
>>> the stage directory is not present.
>> Sorry, I don't believe these will be available for rsync.  My
>> understanding is they are made available for high-bandwith testers to
>> assist with release candidate validation.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> James
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
> 


-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From ml.mildred593 at gmail.com  Fri May 29 06:42:49 2009
From: ml.mildred593 at gmail.com (Mildred Ki'Lya)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 08:42:49 +0200
Subject: X11: Maximum number of clients reached
In-Reply-To: <1243353190.26652.57.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <4A0FE7E7.2030101@gmail.com>	<1242653200.21675.431.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>	<1242664498.3982.16.camel@bree.homelinux.com>	<4A17E3BD.80205@gmail.com>
	<1243353190.26652.57.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4A1F83E9.3000103@gmail.com>

On 05/26/2009 05:53 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 13:53 +0200, Mildred Ki'Lya wrote:
>
>   
>> So, it happened again. There are 234 opened sockets, and the last file
>> descriptor seems to be 255u, so perhaps there is a limit there. Any
>> ideas on how to find the program responsible for that?
>>     
>
> This is a bit awkward since there's no obvious way to get the inode of
> the peer socket.  The best you can do is hope that it was created
> immediately before the corresponding fd in the X server.  So, something
> like this:
>
> ---
> #!/usr/bin/python
>
> from subprocess import Popen, PIPE
>
> client_sockets = []
> match = 0
>
> ns = Popen(["netstat", "-an", "--unix"], stdout=PIPE)
> output = ns.communicate()[0]
> for line in output.split('\n'):
> 	if line.find("X11-unix") != -1:
> 		match = 1
> 	elif match:
> 		match = 0
> 		inode = line.split()[6]
> 		client_sockets.append(inode)
>
> lsof = Popen(["lsof", "-U", "+c0", "-w"], stdout=PIPE)
> output = lsof.communicate()[0]
> for line in output.split('\n'):
> 	try:
> 		inode = line.split()[7]
> 		if inode in client_sockets:
> 			print line
> 	except:
> 		pass
> ---
>
> - ajax
>   

Thanks a lot, I used a similar shell script:

#!/bin/sh

inodes="$(netstat -an --unix | grep X11-unix | sed 's/  */ /g' | sed 's/\[ ACC \]/[ ]/' | cut -d' ' -f7)"

lsof +c0 | head -n 1  

while read line; do
        inode="$(sed 's/  */ /g' <<<"$line" | cut -d' ' -f8)"
        #echo $inode
        if grep "^$inode$" <<< "$inodes" >/dev/null; then
                echo "$line"
        fi
done <<<"$(lsof +c0 -w | tail -n +2)"


I removed the -U option of lsof, with it I couldn't find anything
I found a lot of instances of syndaemon, I think it's the cause.

Mildred

-- 
Mildred Ki'Lya
?????????? ???????????????????? ??????????
? Jabber, GoogleTalk: <mildred at jabber.fr>
? Website: <http://ki.lya.online.fr>           GPG ID: 9A7D 2E2B
? Fingerprint: 197C A7E6 645B 4299 6D37 684B 6F9D A8D6 9A7D 2E2B

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090529/85c956c8/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 197 bytes
Desc: OpenPGP digital signature
URL: <http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20090529/85c956c8/attachment.sig>