Where's Konqueror in SU

Karel Volný kvolny at redhat.com
Thu Nov 5 12:40:23 UTC 2009

let's stop it, there seems to be a communication barrier we are 
unable to overcome

Konqeuror is no worse[*] filemanager than Dolphin, suggesting 
usage of Dolphin is a step aside ... that direction of discussion 
leads to nowhere, and we are already pretty offtopic

[*] of course depends on how do you set the criteria

once again thanks to Adam Williamson for clarifying the source of 
the original problem, and sorry for me not being able to keep my 
mouth shut


On Wednesday 04 of November 2009 16:57:07 David wrote:
> On 11/4/2009 8:46 AM, Karel Volný wrote:
> > ...
> >
> >> set by step volumes (tons?) of TFM
> >>
> >> 1:  login in as user.
> >> 2:  as user open a terminal window
> >> 3:  switch from the user to root using steps 3a and 3b
> >> 3a: type   su - <enter>  at the prompt
> >> 3b: enter root's password <enter>  at the prompt
> >> 4:  type   konqueror & <enter>  (the & lets you keep the
> >>  terminal)
> >
> > how do I understand the original question, this step 4
> > didn't work for the original inquirer; and still, he is
> > unable to use the alternative way via kdesu
> >
> > and some said that it is okay that Konqueror can't be run as
> > root
> >
> > and you said "The point is, I believe, that to disable root
> > is considered a good thing."
> >
> > so keep on topic and explain to me, how do I do step 3 if
> > root is disabled, and what is it good for?
> What release of Fedora are you using? I ask because Dolphin is
>  a replacement file handler for Konqueror.
> Another question. When you try to follow my instructions
>  (above) are you misspelling the name? I ask because konqueror
>  is spelled just like that. konqueror. All lower case letters.
>  Since Linux is a case sensitive OS the names 'konqueror' and
>  'Konqueror' are different. Several times you have used the
>  name with the capital 'K'. That won't work.
> I ask because I use GNOME for my desktop and I had to install
>  KDE, since it was not installed, to check this. From a
>  terminal the name
> konqueror opens konqueror
> the name Konqueror
> fails with
> [root] /root/Desktop # Konqueror&
> bash: Konqueror: command not found
> [1] 2076
> [1]+  Exit 127                Konqueror
> [root] /root/Desktop #
> But like I said I think what you need to use is Dolphin. *AND*
>  it is spelled with all lower case letters too.  dolphin
> And "root is disabled" is not true. The *GUI login* for root
>  is disabled but the root account is still there. It has to be
>  there.
> > oh, and if you are really bored, you can answer my previous
> > question that you have chosen to ignore in your reply - how
> > are the Windows related, when we are talking about doing
> > administrative tasks using the root account in Fedora, and
> > not about using the Administrator account to do daily tasks
> > in Windows?
> Actually I did not answer because it does not really relate to
>  *your* major question.
> I mentioned Windows because older versions, and newer ones
>  that are installed incorrectly, can be setup so that the user
>  has Administrator privileges when logged in. That allows any
>  malware to run with full access to the whole system. And you
>  really don't want that. If, in Linux, you run one application
>  as 'root' (as I described) that is the only place that
>  malware can run. In that terminal. If you run the whole
>  system as root, a GUI login as root for example, you open the
>  whole system to malware.
> Modern, and correctly, installed Windows has an Administrator
>  and users. Users are limited as to what they can do. Which is
>  a good thing. And it is also the better way to run your Linux
>  system.

Karel Volný
QE BaseOs/Daemons Team
Red Hat Czech, Brno
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::  easily be explained by stupidity."
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