Johns thoughts on F13

Scott Robbins scottro at
Tue Nov 24 16:24:36 UTC 2009

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 07:11:51AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 03:05 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > 

> > IIRC, one of the *kit packages will be included and pull in X.  The
> > trick is that one must uncheck EVERYTHING, including what is in the Base
> > section--that is, uncheck Base System as well.
> It's not really a trick, that's you do it. If you want a
> minimal install, uncheck everything.

Well, it's a trick in the sense that it's not intuitive.  It *used* to
be <he says, tapping his cane for emphasis> that leaving base checked
(though unchecking various things in the "Base" section" wouldn't pull
in X.  Semantics, I agree.  :)

> > Also, one has to be careful and be sure to uncheck cups in the server
> > section.  
> Why? Does it pull in X?

It pulls in many things.  I would almost guarantee it would pull in some
X stuff.  To be honest though, I have unchecked it for so long now, that
I'm not sure. (I do know if you try to uninstall it, it will want to
uninstall over 200 packages--someone on forums pointed out that it will,
among others, uninstall firefox as one might want to print from firefox,
I guess.) Grr, I always forget which command tells you what packages a
particular package requires.  Ah, rpm -qR.  I would almost guarantee,
though I don't have time to go through it now, that some of those
dependencies would pull in some X files. 

In this case, however, the only reason I mentiond it was because 
when one is going through package selection dialog,it is selected 
by default (which makes sense, I'm not arguing that point), but is
out of site, making it easy to overlook. 

Scott Robbins
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