Fedora 12 QA retrospective - feedback needed

Scott Robbins scottro at nyc.rr.com
Wed Nov 25 20:49:13 UTC 2009

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 01:23:40AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 11/26/2009 12:59 AM, James Laska wrote:

> not really responsible for it, the team does need to do it all can do to
> avoid anything like this in the future . Signing Rawhide packages
> automatically would have caught this.  Not many users in forum or
> fedora-list complained about it however.

(Off topic, Rahul, your email is set to reply to you AND the list--is
that what you prefer, or is it better to take you off it and just send t
the list.)

On topic--the lack of comment in the forum was due to the staff
basically saying, very quickly, this is being discussed here, here, and
here, so please discuss it there, and closing down any threads after

I assume the lack of comment here (on this list), was also because 
most of the action was going on in the bug reports, and of 
course, slashdot.  :)

One comment--James, hopefully it's alright to intersperse this with
Rahul's comments, if not, I do apologize.   Although it's not much of a
factor in the US, apparently bandwidth limits are quite common in
Australia--there were several who seemed rather disgruntled about the
somewhat confusing SHA1/SHA256 sum issue.  Although it's now clear in
the release notes, those who verify, as a rule, have done it before with
other distributions, and are used to downloading an ISO, looking at the
sums file, and seeing that it's md5 (if anyone's still using it), or
SHAwhatever.  Upon getting what seems to be a bad checksum, they
download again, which in fairness, if you get one bad checksum, is
probably the logical thing to do.

Few are going to look at the notes on verification--so I think it's
really worth making sure that it's clearly marked in the checksum file.
Not because it's so difficult to find the answer, but because I really
think the natural thing to do is to try to download a second time before
even thinking something is off, and then checking.  For folks with
bandwidth issues, it is the sort of thing that aggravates people.

Lastly, for me, with my relatively simple setups, works quite well, good
job, people.   :)

Scott Robbins
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