From updates at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 1 00:07:22 2009 From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:07:22 +0000 Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report Message-ID: <20091001000722.CCDD710F8CF@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com> The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing dokuwiki-0-0.2.20090214.b.fc10 libchewing-0.3.2-16.fc10 procinfo-ng-2.0.304-1.fc10 python-pygments-1.1.1-1.fc10 subversion-api-docs-1.6.5-1.fc10 vecmath-0-2.20090922cvs.fc10 vecmath1.2-1.14-5.fc10 wavpack-4.60-1.fc10 Details about builds: ================================================================================ dokuwiki-0-0.2.20090214.b.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10148) Standards compliant simple to use wiki -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: DokuWiki is a standards compliant, simple to use Wiki, mainly aimed at creating documentation of any kind. It has a simple but powerful syntax which makes sure the datafiles remain readable outside the Wiki and eases the creation of structured texts. All data is stored in plain text files no database is required. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #516059 - Review Request: dokuwiki - Standards compliant simple to use wiki https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516059 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ libchewing-0.3.2-16.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10129) Intelligent phonetic input method library for Traditional Chinese -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Fix chewing Google Issue 352: zuin_count in chewing_zuin_String( ChewingContext *ctx, int *zuin_count ) does not count correctly. Needed for ibus-chewing after 1.2.0-20090930 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Wed Sep 30 2009 Ding-Yi Chen - 0.3.2-16 - Fix chewing Google issue 352: zuin_count in chewing_zuin_String( ChewingContext *ctx, int *zuin_count ) does not count correctly. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ procinfo-ng-2.0.304-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10127) Console-based system monitoring utility -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Fabian Affolter - 2.0.304-1 - Added LICENSE.txt - Updated to new upstream version 2.0.304 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Fabian Affolter - 2.0.304-1 - Added LICENSE.txt - Updated to new upstream version 2.0.304 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ python-pygments-1.1.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10141) A syntax highlighting engine written in Python -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Update for upstream release. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner - 1.1.1-1 - Updated for release. * Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 1.0-5 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild * Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 1.0-4 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ subversion-api-docs-1.6.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10135) Subversion API documentation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Wed Sep 30 2009 Bojan Smojver 1.6.5-1 - bump up to 1.6.5 * Thu Sep 3 2009 Bojan Smojver 1.6.4-2 - add search * Tue Aug 11 2009 Bojan Smojver 1.6.4-1 - bump up to 1.6.4 * Fri May 29 2009 Bojan Smojver 1.6.2-1 - bump up to 1.6.2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ vecmath-0-2.20090922cvs.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10150) The 3D vector math Java package, javax.vecmath -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #526024 - Update spec file to conform to Java packaging guidelines, remove clash with vecmath https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526024 [ 2 ] Bug #524888 - Review Request: vecmath - The 3D vector math Java package, javax.vecmath https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524888 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ vecmath1.2-1.14-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10150) Free version of vecmath from the Java3D 1.2 specification -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Mon Sep 28 2009 Jussi Lehtola - 1.14-5 - Modernized spec file to conform to Java guidelines. - Removed clash with vecmath package. * Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 1.14-4 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild * Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 1.14-3 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #526024 - Update spec file to conform to Java packaging guidelines, remove clash with vecmath https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526024 [ 2 ] Bug #524888 - Review Request: vecmath - The 3D vector math Java package, javax.vecmath https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524888 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ wavpack-4.60-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10130) A completely open audiocodec -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Ver. 4.60 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Mon Sep 28 2009 Peter Lemenkov 4.60-1 - Version 4.60 * Mon Jul 27 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 4.50.1-4 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild * Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 4.50.1-3 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From updates at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 1 00:07:22 2009 From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:07:22 +0000 Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report Message-ID: <20091001000722.C68A110F8C3@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com> The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing audit-1.7.14-1.fc11 cups-1.4.1-1.fc11 dokuwiki-0-0.2.20090214.b.fc11 ekiga-3.2.6-1.fc11 ibus-table-1.2.0.20090912-1.fc11 kazehakase-0.5.8-1.fc11 libchewing-0.3.2-16.fc11 libvirt-0.6.2-18.fc11 mutt-1.5.19-6.fc11 nfoview-1.7-1.fc11 opal-3.6.6-1.fc11 procinfo-ng-2.0.304-1.fc11 protobuf-2.2.0-2.fc11 ptlib-2.6.5-1.fc11 pysnmp-4.1.11-1.a.fc11 python-pygments-1.1.1-1.fc11 qemu-0.10.6-6.fc11 tokyocabinet-1.4.32-1.fc11 vecmath-0-2.20090922cvs.fc11 vecmath1.2-1.14-5.fc11 wavpack-4.60-1.fc11 xfce4-settings-4.6.3-1.fc11 yum-utils-1.1.23-1.fc11 Details about builds: ================================================================================ audit-1.7.14-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10132) User space tools for 2.6 kernel auditing -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This release updates system-config-audit to the 0.4.10 release fixing several issues and adding translations. Updates the syscall table for 2.6.31 kernel, adds a audit.rules man page, and fixes several bugs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Steve Grubb 1.7.14-1 - New upstream release -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ cups-1.4.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10152) Common Unix Printing System -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This updates CUPS to the latest stable release, fixing several bugs in the process. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Wed Sep 30 2009 Tim Waugh 1:1.4.1-1 - 1.4.1. - Don't use cached PPD for raw queue (bug #526405, STR #3356). * Fri Sep 4 2009 Tim Waugh 1:1.4.0-2 - Fixed the dnssd backend so that it only reports devices once avahi resolution has completed. This makes it report Device IDs (bug #520858). * Fri Aug 28 2009 Tim Waugh 1:1.4.0-1 - 1.4.0. * Wed Aug 26 2009 Tim Waugh 1:1.4-0.rc1.20 - Fixed admin.cgi crash when modifying a class (bug #519724, STR #3312, patch from Jiri Popelka). * Wed Aug 26 2009 Tim Waugh 1:1.4-0.rc1.19 - Prevent infinite loop in cupsDoIORequest when processing HTTP errors (bug #518065, bug #519663, STR #3311). - Fixed document-format-supported attribute when application/octet-stream is enabled (bug #516507, STR #3308, patch from Jiri Popelka). - Fixed buggy JobKillDelay handling fix (STR #3292). - Prevent infinite loop in ppdc (STR #3293). * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tim Waugh 1:1.4-0.rc1.17 - Removed 3-distribution symlink (bug #514244). * Tue Aug 18 2009 Tim Waugh 1:1.4-0.rc1.16 - Fixed JobKillDelay handling for cancelled jobs (bug #518026, STR #3292). - Use 'exec' to invoke ghostscript in the pstoraster filter. This allows the SIGTERM signal to reach the correct process, as well as conserving memory (part of bug #518026). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #516507 - document-format '' advertised when filter not present https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516507 [ 2 ] Bug #518065 - IPP-Get-Printer-Attributes request never finishes https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518065 [ 3 ] Bug #519663 - 'lpstat -h myfqdn -s' never finishes https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519663 [ 4 ] Bug #526405 - Can't assign RAW Queue driver to printer https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526405 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ dokuwiki-0-0.2.20090214.b.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10126) Standards compliant simple to use wiki -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: DokuWiki is a standards compliant, simple to use Wiki, mainly aimed at creating documentation of any kind. It has a simple but powerful syntax which makes sure the datafiles remain readable outside the Wiki and eases the creation of structured texts. All data is stored in plain text files no database is required. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #516059 - Review Request: dokuwiki - Standards compliant simple to use wiki https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516059 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ ekiga-3.2.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10146) A Gnome based SIP/H323 teleconferencing application -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 22 2009 Peter Robinson - 3.2.6-1 - Ekiga 3.2.6 stable - Changelog ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ekiga/3.2/ekiga-3.2.6.news * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz - 3.2.5-4 - rebuilt with new openssl * Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 3.2.5-3 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild * Thu Jul 9 2009 Matthias Clasen - 3.2.5-2 - Shrink GConf schemas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ ibus-table-1.2.0.20090912-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10138) The Table engine for IBus platform -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: rebuilt w/ ibus 1.2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Wed Sep 30 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance - 1.2.0.20090912-1.fc11 - Rebuilt with IBus 1.2. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ kazehakase-0.5.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10154) Kazehakase browser using Gecko rendering engine -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: New version 0.5.8 is released. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Mamoru Tasaka - 0.5.8-1 - Update to 0.5.8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ libchewing-0.3.2-16.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10151) Intelligent phonetic input method library for Traditional Chinese -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Fix chewing Google Issue 352: zuin_count in chewing_zuin_String( ChewingContext *ctx, int *zuin_count ) does not count correctly. Needed for ibus-chewing after 1.2.0-20090930 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Wed Sep 30 2009 Ding-Yi Chen - 0.3.2-16 - Fix chewing Google issue 352: zuin_count in chewing_zuin_String( ChewingContext *ctx, int *zuin_count ) does not count correctly. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ libvirt-0.6.2-18.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10123) Library providing a simple API virtualization -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update fixes a bug which caused the performance of virtio_net NICs to be limited. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Wed Sep 30 2009 Mark McLoughlin - 0.6.2-18 - Fix qemu-kvm version detection so GSO is enabled for virtio_net (#526472) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #526472 - libvirt fails to enable IFF_VNET_HDR on tap fds for qemu-kvm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526472 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ mutt-1.5.19-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10143) A text mode mail user agent -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Update tokyocabinet and rebuild mutt for tokyotyrant -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Deji Akingunola 5:1.5.19-6 - Rebuild for tokyocabinet soname bump (related to #520024) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #520024 - Update Request to >= 1.4.30 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520024 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ nfoview-1.7-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10125) Viewer for NFO files -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Fabian Affolter - 1.7-1 - Updated to new upstream version 1.7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Fabian Affolter - 1.7-1 - Updated to new upstream version 1.7 * Thu Sep 17 2009 Fabian Affolter - 1.6-1 - Use bzipped upstream tarball - Updated to new upstream version 1.6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ opal-3.6.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10146) Open Phone Abstraction Library -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 22 2009 Peter Robinson - 3.6.6-1 - New 3.6.6 stable release * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz - 3.6.4-4 - rebuilt with new openssl * Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 3.6.4-3 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ procinfo-ng-2.0.304-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10153) Console-based system monitoring utility -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Fabian Affolter - 2.0.304-1 - Added LICENSE.txt - Updated to new upstream version 2.0.304 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Fabian Affolter - 2.0.304-1 - Added LICENSE.txt - Updated to new upstream version 2.0.304 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ protobuf-2.2.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10140) Protocol Buffers - Google's data interchange format -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Updated to upstream version 2.2.0, fixing many small issues. This package also includes a fix for pthread linking. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Wed Sep 30 2009 Lev Shamardin - 2.2.0-2 - added export PTHREAD_LIBS="-lpthread" * Fri Sep 18 2009 Lev Shamardin - 2.2.0-1 - Upgraded to upstream protobuf-2.2.0 - New -lite packages -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #501104 - protobuf 2.1.0 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501104 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ ptlib-2.6.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10146) Portable Tools Library -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 22 2009 Peter Robinson - 2.6.5-1 - New 2.6.5 stable release * Sat Aug 22 2009 Tomas Mraz - 2.6.4-5 - rebuilt with new openssl * Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 2.6.4-2 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ pysnmp-4.1.11-1.a.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10119) SNMP engine written in Python -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Fabian Affolter - 4.1.11-1.a - Removed shebang and permission fixing - Added new doc files - Added scripts to files section - Updated to new upstream version -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Fabian Affolter - 4.1.11-1.a - Removed shebang and permission fixing - Added new doc files - Added scripts to files section - Updated to new upstream version * Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 2.0.9-4 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ python-pygments-1.1.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10157) A syntax highlighting engine written in Python -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Update for upstream release. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner - 1.1.1-1 - Updated for release. * Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 1.0-5 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ qemu-0.10.6-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10147) QEMU is a FAST! processor emulator -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update fixes virtio_net with 2.6.30 guests. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Mark McLoughlin - 2:0.10.6-6 - Fix broken virtio-net with 2.6.30 guests (#522994) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #522994 - KVM Fedora 11 guest networking fails with latest (2.6.30.5-43) kernel. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522994 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ tokyocabinet-1.4.32-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10143) A modern implementation of a DBM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Update tokyocabinet and rebuild mutt for tokyotyrant -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Fri Aug 28 2009 Deji Akingunola - 1.4.32-1 - Update to 1.4.32 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #520024 - Update Request to >= 1.4.30 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520024 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ vecmath-0-2.20090922cvs.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10156) The 3D vector math Java package, javax.vecmath -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #526024 - Update spec file to conform to Java packaging guidelines, remove clash with vecmath https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526024 [ 2 ] Bug #524888 - Review Request: vecmath - The 3D vector math Java package, javax.vecmath https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524888 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ vecmath1.2-1.14-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10156) Free version of vecmath from the Java3D 1.2 specification -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Mon Sep 28 2009 Jussi Lehtola - 1.14-5 - Modernized spec file to conform to Java guidelines. - Removed clash with vecmath package. * Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 1.14-4 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #526024 - Update spec file to conform to Java packaging guidelines, remove clash with vecmath https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526024 [ 2 ] Bug #524888 - Review Request: vecmath - The 3D vector math Java package, javax.vecmath https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524888 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ wavpack-4.60-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10122) A completely open audiocodec -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Ver. 4.60 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Mon Sep 28 2009 Peter Lemenkov 4.60-1 - Version 4.60 * Mon Jul 27 2009 Fedora Release Engineering - 4.50.1-4 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ xfce4-settings-4.6.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10139) Settings Manager for Xfce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This release contains several bugfixes from upstream. More info about these bugs can be found at bugzilla.xfce.org (#5040, #5311, #5550 and #5554). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 29 2009 Christoph Wickert - 4.6.3-1 - Update to 4.6.3 - Drop patches that were upstreamed * Sat Sep 26 2009 Kevin Fenzi - 4.6.1-5 - Add patch for restoring display resolution on login (bug #504908) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #504908 - XFCE does not keep the display settings after each logout https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ yum-utils-1.1.23-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-9238) Utilities based around the yum package manager -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: lots of bugfixes :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ChangeLog: * Wed Sep 2 2009 Tim Lauridsen - mark as 1.1.23 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: [ 1 ] Bug #512563 - repoquery ignores --quiet when --repofrompath is used https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512563 [ 2 ] Bug #509479 - RFE: [PATCH] yum-plugin-fastestmirror - add option for "preferred" mirror https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509479 [ 3 ] Bug #503587 - reposync not downloading repodata (just downloads RPMs) for trivial repo https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503587 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From poelstra at redhat.com Thu Oct 1 04:52:00 2009 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:52:00 -0700 Subject: delta rebuild Message-ID: <4AC43570.2050608@redhat.com> Every time I see this during a 'yum update' I wonder what it really means or if it is a bug. 22% [=== ] 277 kB/s | 50 MB 10:35 ETA Isn't the kB/s being displayed for a CPU activity? Usually this speed output is associated with the network download speed. It seems strange to to see it in this context. Is it really telling us anything useful? John From awilliam at redhat.com Thu Oct 1 05:02:02 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:02:02 -0700 Subject: delta rebuild In-Reply-To: <4AC43570.2050608@redhat.com> References: <4AC43570.2050608@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1254373322.2269.0.camel@adam.local.net> On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 21:52 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > Every time I see this during a 'yum update' I wonder what it really > means or if it is a bug. > > 22% [=== ] 277 kB/s | 50 MB 10:35 ETA > > Isn't the kB/s being displayed for a CPU activity? Usually this speed > output is associated with the network download speed. It seems strange > to to see it in this context. Is it really telling us anything useful? it's a simple way to compare whether the delta RPM thing is saving you any time. If that speed is faster than your download speed, it is... (I don't know if that's the reasoning behind displaying it that way, but it seems to work that way to me.) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de Thu Oct 1 05:30:57 2009 From: joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de (Joachim Backes) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:30:57 +0200 Subject: delta rebuild In-Reply-To: <1254373322.2269.0.camel@adam.local.net> References: <4AC43570.2050608@redhat.com> <1254373322.2269.0.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <4AC43E91.8030002@rhrk.uni-kl.de> On 10/01/2009 07:02 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 21:52 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: >> Every time I see this during a 'yum update' I wonder what it really >> means or if it is a bug. >> >> 22% [=== ] 277 kB/s | 50 MB 10:35 ETA >> >> Isn't the kB/s being displayed for a CPU activity? Usually this speed >> output is associated with the network download speed. It seems strange >> to to see it in this context. Is it really telling us anything useful? > > it's a simple way to compare whether the delta RPM thing is saving you > any time. If that speed is faster than your download speed, it is... But sometimes it is reduced to some tens of kB/s :-) > > (I don't know if that's the reasoning behind displaying it that way, but > it seems to work that way to me.) > -- Joachim Backes http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 6101 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From awilliam at redhat.com Thu Oct 1 06:05:39 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:05:39 -0700 Subject: delta rebuild In-Reply-To: <4AC43E91.8030002@rhrk.uni-kl.de> References: <4AC43570.2050608@redhat.com> <1254373322.2269.0.camel@adam.local.net> <4AC43E91.8030002@rhrk.uni-kl.de> Message-ID: <1254377139.2269.1.camel@adam.local.net> On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 07:30 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 10/01/2009 07:02 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 21:52 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > >> Every time I see this during a 'yum update' I wonder what it really > >> means or if it is a bug. > >> > >> 22% [=== ] 277 kB/s | 50 MB 10:35 ETA > >> > >> Isn't the kB/s being displayed for a CPU activity? Usually this speed > >> output is associated with the network download speed. It seems strange > >> to to see it in this context. Is it really telling us anything useful? > > > > it's a simple way to compare whether the delta RPM thing is saving you > > any time. If that speed is faster than your download speed, it is... > > But sometimes it is reduced to some tens of kB/s :-) there's a discussion on -devel-list atm; we're using a much too intensive compression setting for xz. that should get reduced, which would make the rebuild stage much faster. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Thu Oct 1 08:24:21 2009 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:24:21 +0200 Subject: latest daily rawhide netinst.iso ? Message-ID: <64b14b300910010124i657c61eam4d760188b14aa096@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I can't seam to find latest daily rawhide netinst.iso I could only find boot.iso here: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/images/ I found netinst.iso here: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-TC/Fedora-12-Beta-TC-i386-CDs/ But this seams like not "official" folder and it is not daily image. I would like to test Fedora network install method, if it is possible. Where can I find latest daily netinst.iso image? Cheers! -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, msn: valent.turkovic at hotmail.com From mschwendt at gmail.com Thu Oct 1 09:45:05 2009 From: mschwendt at gmail.com (Michael Schwendt) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:45:05 -0000 Subject: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 updates-testing - 2009-10-01 Message-ID: <20091001094505.9039.63634@faldor.intranet> ====================================================================== The results in this summary consider Test Updates! ====================================================================== Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name): asterisk fedora-business-cards kdeedu libsvm oorexx openmpi openvrml pytc R-RScaLAPACK rhn-client-tools ====================================================================== Broken packages in fedora-11-i386: R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.i586 requires openmpi-libs asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.i586 requires asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11 openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.i586 requires openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11 pytc-0.7-2.fc11.i586 requires libtokyocabinet.so.7 ====================================================================== Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc: R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc requires openmpi-libs asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc requires asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11 libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc requires libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11 openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc requires openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11 pytc-0.7-2.fc11.ppc requires libtokyocabinet.so.7 ====================================================================== Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc64: R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc64 requires openmpi-libs asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc64 requires asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11 libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc64 requires libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11 openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc64 requires openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11 pytc-0.7-2.fc11.ppc64 requires libtokyocabinet.so.7()(64bit) ====================================================================== Broken packages in fedora-11-x86_64: R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.x86_64 requires openmpi-libs asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.x86_64 requires asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11 oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386 requires librexx.so.3 oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386 requires librexxapi.so.3 openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.x86_64 requires openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11 pytc-0.7-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libtokyocabinet.so.7()(64bit) ====================================================================== Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-i386: rhn-check-0.7.3-1.fc11.noarch requires yum-rhn-plugin >= 0:0.5.3-30 ====================================================================== Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc: kdeedu-marble-4.3.1-1.fc11.ppc64 requires kdeedu-marble-libs(ppc-64) = 0:4.3.1-1.fc11 rhn-check-0.7.3-1.fc11.noarch requires yum-rhn-plugin >= 0:0.5.3-30 ====================================================================== Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc64: rhn-check-0.7.3-1.fc11.noarch requires yum-rhn-plugin >= 0:0.5.3-30 ====================================================================== Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-x86_64: kdeedu-marble-4.3.1-1.fc11.i586 requires kdeedu-marble-libs(x86-32) = 0:4.3.1-1.fc11 rhn-check-0.7.3-1.fc11.noarch requires yum-rhn-plugin >= 0:0.5.3-30 ====================================================================== Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-i386: fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch requires inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn ====================================================================== Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc: fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch requires inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn openvrml-0.18.3-3.fc11.ppc64 requires java-1.6.0-openjdk(ppc-64) ====================================================================== Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc64: fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch requires inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn ====================================================================== Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-x86_64: fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch requires inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn openvrml-0.18.3-3.fc11.i586 requires java-1.6.0-openjdk(x86-32) From ryniker at alum.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 12:41:17 2009 From: ryniker at alum.mit.edu (Richard Ryniker) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:41:17 -0400 Subject: delta rebuild In-Reply-To: <1254377139.2269.1.camel@adam.local.net> (awilliam@redhat.com) References: <4AC43570.2050608@redhat.com> <1254373322.2269.0.camel@adam.local.net> <4AC43E91.8030002@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <1254377139.2269.1.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: > it's a simple way to compare whether the delta RPM thing is saving you > any time. If that speed is faster than your download speed, it is... Do you mean there is a parameter a user can employ to control the balance between network and processor resources for an update? I surmised the object of the delta strategy was primarily to reduce data traffic at the servers, with a secondary benefit of faster delivery to users with small network bandwidth. I have found the rebuild speeds displayed on my F12 test system one-quarter to one-tenth of my network bandwidth. This has not been onerous, but certainly time would be saved if I could say "Do not use delta rpms." to yum. Recent experience has delivered the worst of both worlds: about half the delta rpms fail integrity checks, and complete copies of those files have to be downloaded after the delta rebuild failures. An earlier post to this list explained a format change causes these failures, and they will abate as packages are rebuilt. From stickster at gmail.com Thu Oct 1 13:07:57 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:07:57 -0400 Subject: latest daily rawhide netinst.iso ? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300910010124i657c61eam4d760188b14aa096@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300910010124i657c61eam4d760188b14aa096@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091001130757.GH17320@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:24:21AM +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote: > Hi, > I can't seam to find latest daily rawhide netinst.iso > > I could only find boot.iso here: > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/images/ > > I found netinst.iso here: > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-TC/Fedora-12-Beta-TC-i386-CDs/ > > But this seams like not "official" folder and it is not daily image. > I would like to test Fedora network install method, if it is possible. > > Where can I find latest daily netinst.iso image? If memory serves, the boot.iso and the netinst.iso are the same. Since we don't roll a full "iso/" folder (with DVD, CDs, and netinst CD) every night of Rawhide, you can just use boot.iso to test Rawhide's daily snapshot. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 1 13:20:33 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: delta rebuild In-Reply-To: References: <4AC43570.2050608@redhat.com> <1254373322.2269.0.camel@adam.local.net> <4AC43E91.8030002@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <1254377139.2269.1.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, Richard Ryniker wrote: >> it's a simple way to compare whether the delta RPM thing is saving you >> any time. If that speed is faster than your download speed, it is... > > Do you mean there is a parameter a user can employ to control the balance > between network and processor resources for an update? I surmised the > object of the delta strategy was primarily to reduce data traffic at the > servers, with a secondary benefit of faster delivery to users with > small network bandwidth. > > I have found the rebuild speeds displayed on my F12 test system > one-quarter to one-tenth of my network bandwidth. This has not been > onerous, but certainly time would be saved if I could say "Do not use > delta rpms." to yum. > yum --disableplugin=presto .... or yum remove yum-presto your problem solved. -sv From rawhide at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 1 13:24:13 2009 From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:24:13 +0000 Subject: rawhide report: 20091001 changes Message-ID: <20091001132413.GA16154@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com> Compose started at Thu Oct 1 06:15:05 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- PolicyKit-olpc-1.2-2.fc11.noarch requires /var/lib/PolicyKit-public argus-2.0.6.fixes.1-16.fc11.i586 requires libpcap.so.0.9 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) 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perl(POE::Component::Client::Keepalive) >= 0:0.0901 python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot rhn-check-0.7.3-1.fc12.noarch requires yum-rhn-plugin >= 0:0.5.3-30 yersinia-0.7.1-3.fc11.ppc64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) Removed package perl-POE-Component-Client-Keepalive Updated Packages: anerley-0.1.4-1.fc12 -------------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Peter Robinson 0.1.4-1 - New upstream 0.1.4 release, drop upstreamed MC5 patches control-center-2.28.0-12.fc12 ----------------------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Matthias Clasen 2.28.0-12 - Fix a crash in the display capplet cups-1.4.1-6.fc12 ----------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Tim Waugh 1:1.4.1-6 - Don't use cached PPD for raw queue (bug #526405, STR #3356). gdb-6.8.91.20090930-2.fc12 -------------------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Jan Kratochvil - 6.8.91.20090930-1 - Fix broken python "help()" command "modules" (BZ 526552). - Upgrade to the FSF GDB gdb-7.0 snapshot: 6.8.91.20090930 - archer-jankratochvil-fedora12 commit: 7cb860f03e2437c97239334ebe240d06f45723e0 * Wed Sep 30 2009 Jan Kratochvil - 6.8.91.20090930-2 - Bump release. * Sun Sep 27 2009 Jan Kratochvil - 6.8.91.20090925-3 - New test for step-resume breakpoint placed in multiple threads at once. kio_sysinfo-20090930-1.fc12 --------------------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Luk?? Tinkl - 20090930-1 - fix mounting devices using Solid, HTML template fixes * Fri Aug 28 2009 Luk?? Tinkl - 20090828-1 - new upstream version with a couple of small fixes (most notably the empty disk Label fix) koffice-langpack-1.6.3-4.fc12 ----------------------------- * Sat Sep 26 2009 Rex Dieter 2:1.1.6-4 - Epoch++ (revert koffice2 -> koffice1) libvirt-0.7.1-7.fc12 -------------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Mark McLoughlin - 0.7.1-7 - Fix USB device passthrough (#522683) moblin-panel-people-0.0.3-1.fc12 -------------------------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Peter Robinson 0.0.3-1 - New upstream 0.0.3 release, drop upstreamed MC5 patches moblin-panel-status-0.0.6-1.fc12 -------------------------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Peter Robinson 0.0.6-1 - New upstream 0.0.6 release, drop upstreamed MC5 patches mutter-moblin-0.39.3-1.fc12 --------------------------- yum-3.2.24-9.fc12 ----------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Seth Vidal - 3.2.24-8 - fix up broken build b/c of version-groups.conf file * Wed Sep 30 2009 Seth Vidal - 3.2.24-9 - revert yum. import patch b/c it breaks a bunch of things * Tue Sep 29 2009 Seth Vidal - 3.2.24-7 - fixes for odd outputs from ts.run and logs for what we store in history Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 1 Modified Packages: 11 From awilliam at redhat.com Thu Oct 1 16:28:51 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:28:51 -0700 Subject: delta rebuild In-Reply-To: References: <4AC43570.2050608@redhat.com> <1254373322.2269.0.camel@adam.local.net> <4AC43E91.8030002@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <1254377139.2269.1.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <1254414531.2269.11.camel@adam.local.net> On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 08:41 -0400, Richard Ryniker wrote: > > it's a simple way to compare whether the delta RPM thing is saving you > > any time. If that speed is faster than your download speed, it is... > > Do you mean there is a parameter a user can employ to control the balance > between network and processor resources for an update? No, I hope I didn't suggest that as it's not what I meant. :) You can only turn delta usage on or off, there's no 'control' over the process. > I surmised the > object of the delta strategy was primarily to reduce data traffic at the > servers, with a secondary benefit of faster delivery to users with > small network bandwidth. Both goals are considered important, AFAIK. > I have found the rebuild speeds displayed on my F12 test system > one-quarter to one-tenth of my network bandwidth. This has not been > onerous, but certainly time would be saved if I could say "Do not use > delta rpms." to yum. See comment about the too-high compression level used. > Recent experience has delivered the worst of both worlds: about half the > delta rpms fail integrity checks, and complete copies of those files have > to be downloaded after the delta rebuild failures. An earlier post to > this list explained a format change causes these failures, and they will > abate as packages are rebuilt. I'm not sure we've actually dealt with that problem in any way yet, though we've spent lots of time arguing about it...it's not about a format change, exactly, the problem is that xz doesn't produce the exact same compressed output on PPC architectures as on x86 architectures, and some noarch deltaRPMs were/are being generated on PPC buildhosts, so when they come to be reconstructed on x86 hosts, the check fails...there are various ways this could be addressed (stop building noarch packages on PPC buildhosts, adjust xz so it doesn't have this particular arch difference any more), but as usual the -devel list took it as an excuse for a good old 'robust discussion' about whether xz was evil and what would be the really really really correct way to fix it ('but either of the simple and obvious fixes are just band-aids and don't fix the real underlying problem that xz is evil!'), rather than actually dealing with the problem first. good times! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From notting at redhat.com Thu Oct 1 16:37:49 2009 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:37:49 -0400 Subject: delta rebuild In-Reply-To: <1254414531.2269.11.camel@adam.local.net> References: <4AC43570.2050608@redhat.com> <1254373322.2269.0.camel@adam.local.net> <4AC43E91.8030002@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <1254377139.2269.1.camel@adam.local.net> <1254414531.2269.11.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <20091001163749.GA22375@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Adam Williamson (awilliam at redhat.com) said: > I'm not sure we've actually dealt with that problem in any way yet, > though we've spent lots of time arguing about it... It's being worked with upstream. Bill From awilliam at redhat.com Thu Oct 1 16:58:25 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:58:25 -0700 Subject: delta rebuild In-Reply-To: <20091001163749.GA22375@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <4AC43570.2050608@redhat.com> <1254373322.2269.0.camel@adam.local.net> <4AC43E91.8030002@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <1254377139.2269.1.camel@adam.local.net> <1254414531.2269.11.camel@adam.local.net> <20091001163749.GA22375@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1254416305.2269.21.camel@adam.local.net> On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 12:37 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Adam Williamson (awilliam at redhat.com) said: > > I'm not sure we've actually dealt with that problem in any way yet, > > though we've spent lots of time arguing about it... > > It's being worked with upstream. ah, good to know there's some light as well as heat =) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From jamatos at fc.up.pt Thu Oct 1 18:23:21 2009 From: jamatos at fc.up.pt (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jos=E9_Matos?=) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:23:21 +0100 Subject: no usb device with 2.6.31 kernels on rawhide Message-ID: <200910011923.21285.jamatos@fc.up.pt> To make the story short I bought a new laptop, I tried to install with the latest installer but failed for several (already reported) reasons and I was forced to use the Alpha installer. FWIW I used the kde live installer (although this should be irrelevant in what follows). The first time I have updated the kernel I got no usb devices working, the same happened with all the kernels released in the last week. The error messages are: Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: nommu_map_single: overflow 13329b2d0+8 of device mask ffffffff Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: nommu_map_single: overflow 1332025d8+64 of device mask ffffffff Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: ------------[ cut here ]------------ Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: WARNING: at lib/dma-debug.c:787 check_unmap+0x99/0x5d6() (Tainted: G W ) Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: Hardware name: HP EliteBook 8530p Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: ehci_hcd 0000:00:1a.7: DMA-API: device driver tries to free an invalid DMA memory address Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: Modules linked in: Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: G W 2.6.31.1-48.fc12.x86_64 #1 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: Call Trace: Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] warn_slowpath_common+0x95/0xc3 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x50/0x66 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] check_unmap+0x99/0x5d6 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? check_irq_usage+0xc0/0xe9 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] debug_dma_unmap_page+0x66/0x7c Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] dma_unmap_single_attrs.clone.0+0x82/0xa1 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] unmap_urb_for_dma+0x63/0x114 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] usb_hcd_giveback_urb+0x71/0xea Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ehci_urb_done+0x8a/0xb1 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] qh_completions+0x37f/0x50e Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ehci_work+0xaa/0x777 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? ehci_irq+0x41/0x441 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? ehci_irq+0x41/0x441 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ehci_irq+0x2d8/0x441 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? handle_fasteoi_irq+0x35/0xf9 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] usb_hcd_irq+0x59/0xcc Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] handle_IRQ_event+0x62/0x148 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] handle_fasteoi_irq+0xa3/0xf9 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] handle_irq+0x9a/0xba Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? trace_hardirqs_off_thunk+0x3a/0x3c Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] do_IRQ+0x6f/0xe5 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ret_from_intr+0x0/0x16 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? acpi_idle_enter_simple+0x132/0x17a Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? acpi_idle_enter_simple+0x12b/0x17a Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? cpuidle_idle_call+0xa0/0xec Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? cpu_idle+0xbf/0x10a Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? start_secondary+0x211/0x268 Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: ---[ end trace a7919e7f17c0a727 ]--- And like this from today: Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: WARNING: at drivers/pci/dmar.c:183 dmar_table_init+0x173/0x3d7() (Not tainted) Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: Hardware name: HP EliteBook 8530p Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: Your BIOS is broken; DMAR reported at address zero! Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: BIOS vendor: Hewlett-Packard; Ver: 68PDV Ver. F.0E; Product Version: F.0E Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: Modules linked in: Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.x86_64 #1 Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: Call Trace: Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] warn_slowpath_common+0x95/0xc3 Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x50/0x66 Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] dmar_table_init+0x173/0x3d7 Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] enable_IR_x2apic+0x21/0x218 Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] native_smp_prepare_cpus+0x13c/0x384 Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] kernel_init+0x93/0x29b Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] child_rip+0xa/0x20 Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] ? restore_args+0x0/0x30 Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] ? kernel_init+0x0/0x29b Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] ? child_rip+0x0/0x20 Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: ---[ end trace a7919e7f17c0a725 ]--- Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: Setting APIC routing to flat Is this related with http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524808 or should I open another bug? -- Jos? Ab?lio From jlaska at redhat.com Thu Oct 1 19:00:51 2009 From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:00:51 -0400 Subject: no usb device with 2.6.31 kernels on rawhide In-Reply-To: <200910011923.21285.jamatos@fc.up.pt> References: <200910011923.21285.jamatos@fc.up.pt> Message-ID: <1254423651.2388.223.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 19:23 +0100, Jos? Matos wrote: > To make the story short I bought a new laptop, I tried to install with the > latest installer but failed for several (already reported) reasons and I was > forced to use the Alpha installer. Out of curiosity, do you recall the already reported reasons? > FWIW I used the kde live installer > (although this should be irrelevant in what follows). > > The first time I have updated the kernel I got no usb devices working, the > same happened with all the kernels released in the last week. > > The error messages are: > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using > ehci_hcd and address 3 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: nommu_map_single: overflow 13329b2d0+8 of > device mask ffffffff > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: nommu_map_single: overflow 1332025d8+64 of > device mask ffffffff > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: ------------[ cut here ]------------ > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: WARNING: at lib/dma-debug.c:787 > check_unmap+0x99/0x5d6() (Tainted: G W ) > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: Hardware name: HP EliteBook 8530p > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: ehci_hcd 0000:00:1a.7: DMA-API: device > driver tries to free an invalid DMA memory address > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: Modules linked in: > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: G W > 2.6.31.1-48.fc12.x86_64 #1 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: Call Trace: > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] > warn_slowpath_common+0x95/0xc3 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] > warn_slowpath_fmt+0x50/0x66 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] check_unmap+0x99/0x5d6 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? > check_irq_usage+0xc0/0xe9 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] > debug_dma_unmap_page+0x66/0x7c > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] > dma_unmap_single_attrs.clone.0+0x82/0xa1 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] > unmap_urb_for_dma+0x63/0x114 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] > usb_hcd_giveback_urb+0x71/0xea > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ehci_urb_done+0x8a/0xb1 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] > qh_completions+0x37f/0x50e > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ehci_work+0xaa/0x777 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? ehci_irq+0x41/0x441 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? ehci_irq+0x41/0x441 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ehci_irq+0x2d8/0x441 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? > handle_fasteoi_irq+0x35/0xf9 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] usb_hcd_irq+0x59/0xcc > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] > handle_IRQ_event+0x62/0x148 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] > handle_fasteoi_irq+0xa3/0xf9 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] handle_irq+0x9a/0xba > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? > trace_hardirqs_off_thunk+0x3a/0x3c > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] do_IRQ+0x6f/0xe5 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ret_from_intr+0x0/0x16 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? > acpi_idle_enter_simple+0x132/0x17a > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? > acpi_idle_enter_simple+0x12b/0x17a > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? > cpuidle_idle_call+0xa0/0xec > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? cpu_idle+0xbf/0x10a > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: [] ? > start_secondary+0x211/0x268 > Sep 27 22:08:04 localhost kernel: ---[ end trace a7919e7f17c0a727 ]--- > > And like this from today: > > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: WARNING: at drivers/pci/dmar.c:183 > dmar_table_init+0x173/0x3d7() (Not tainted) > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: Hardware name: HP EliteBook 8530p > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: Your BIOS is broken; DMAR reported at > address zero! > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: BIOS vendor: Hewlett-Packard; Ver: 68PDV > Ver. F.0E; Product Version: F.0E > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: Modules linked in: > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted > 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.x86_64 #1 > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: Call Trace: > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] > warn_slowpath_common+0x95/0xc3 > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] > warn_slowpath_fmt+0x50/0x66 > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] > dmar_table_init+0x173/0x3d7 > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] > enable_IR_x2apic+0x21/0x218 > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] > native_smp_prepare_cpus+0x13c/0x384 > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] kernel_init+0x93/0x29b > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] child_rip+0xa/0x20 > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] ? restore_args+0x0/0x30 > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] ? kernel_init+0x0/0x29b > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: [] ? child_rip+0x0/0x20 > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: ---[ end trace a7919e7f17c0a725 ]--- > Oct 1 12:25:33 localhost kernel: Setting APIC routing to flat > > Is this related with http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524808 or > should I open another bug? The boot log reported in bug#524808 seems to reference dracut failing to find the root volume during bootup. I think your issue might be different. I see several similar failures, but haven't found the exact match just yet (see http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla% 3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=9b6&q=site%3Abugzilla.redhat.com+lib% 2Fdma-debug.c&aq=f&oq=&aqi=). Perhaps worth recording a new defect. Thanks, James -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Previous reviews have been successful at keeping the blocker bug list active. Let's continue this trend by reviewing the current list of unresolved F12Beta bugs [1]. The list of Fedora 12 Beta blocker bugs [1] includes: * 516042 - MODIFIED - Unable to add NFS yum repo during installation * 524599 - MODIFIED - Https repository problems * 519237 - ASSIGNED - bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device * 522675 - ASSIGNED - mouse,keyboard don't work when boot from LiveCD * 526158 - NEW - font of f12 beta terminal is very big * 526208 - ASSIGNED - preupgrade failed from old release (f10, f11) * 526320 - ASSIGNED - ppc64.img and ppc32.img missing from tree * 526380 - NEW - Xorg update kills graphics * 526470 - NEW - NFSv3 mounting broken in dracut netboot Have an issue you'd like to propose for F12Beta? Please consider the following criteria when escalating an issue: * Can this issue be fixed with a future rawhide update or is it part of the critical path? [2] * Is this defect a high (or greater) severity [3] with no, or an unreasonable, workaround? * Does the presence of this bug dramatically reduce beta test coverage? See you there! James [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F12Beta&hide_resolved=1 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages_Proposal#When_and_how_to_determine_packages_within_the_path [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow#Priority_and_Severity -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ test-announce mailing list test-announce at lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce From harald at redhat.com Thu Oct 1 19:59:50 2009 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:59:50 +0200 Subject: HOWTO debug dracut In-Reply-To: <4AC5047D.8020609@redhat.com> References: <4AC5047D.8020609@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4AC50A36.1030801@redhat.com> Am 01.10.2009 21:35, schrieb Harald Hoyer: > * read the dracut man page > * remove "rhgb" from the kernel command line and maybe "quiet" > * add "rdshell" to the kernel command line and you are dropped to a shell > * add "rdshell rdinitdebug" to the kernel command line and dracut shell > commands are printed as they are executed > * with dracut >= 002-11 ( > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=134721 ), you can > inspect the rdinitdebug output with: > # less /init.log > and > # dmesg | less > oh, and you might be able to * mount /boot or * ifup eth0 and nfs mount a share to copy over /init.log or the whole dmesg output From jlaska at redhat.com Thu Oct 1 20:00:21 2009 From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:00:21 -0400 Subject: HOWTO debug dracut In-Reply-To: <4AC5047D.8020609@redhat.com> References: <4AC5047D.8020609@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1254427221.2388.252.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 21:35 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > * read the dracut man page > * remove "rhgb" from the kernel command line and maybe "quiet" > * add "rdshell" to the kernel command line and you are dropped to a shell > * add "rdshell rdinitdebug" to the kernel command line and dracut shell commands > are printed as they are executed > * with dracut >= 002-11 ( > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=134721 ), you can inspect > the rdinitdebug output with: > # less /init.log > and > # dmesg | less It could probably use some more polish, but I've added your comments to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Dracut_problems Thanks, James -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From awilliam at redhat.com Thu Oct 1 20:02:34 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:02:34 -0700 Subject: HOWTO debug dracut In-Reply-To: <4AC5047D.8020609@redhat.com> References: <4AC5047D.8020609@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1254427354.2269.32.camel@adam.local.net> On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 21:35 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > * read the dracut man page > * remove "rhgb" from the kernel command line and maybe "quiet" > * add "rdshell" to the kernel command line and you are dropped to a shell > * add "rdshell rdinitdebug" to the kernel command line and dracut shell commands > are printed as they are executed > * with dracut >= 002-11 ( > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=134721 ), you can inspect > the rdinitdebug output with: > # less /init.log > and > # dmesg | less Please also see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Dracut_problems , the permanent reference for this topic. I'll add anything in Harald's mail that's not currently on that page to it. Thanks. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From johannbg at hi.is Thu Oct 1 22:09:54 2009 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:09:54 +0000 Subject: HOWTO debug dracut In-Reply-To: <1254427354.2269.32.camel@adam.local.net> References: <4AC5047D.8020609@redhat.com> <1254427354.2269.32.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <4AC528B2.6070107@hi.is> On 10/01/2009 08:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 21:35 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > >> * read the dracut man page >> * remove "rhgb" from the kernel command line and maybe "quiet" >> * add "rdshell" to the kernel command line and you are dropped to a shell >> * add "rdshell rdinitdebug" to the kernel command line and dracut shell commands >> are printed as they are executed >> * with dracut>= 002-11 ( >> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=134721 ), you can inspect >> the rdinitdebug output with: >> # less /init.log >> and >> # dmesg | less >> > Please also see > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Dracut_problems , the > permanent reference for this topic. I'll add anything in Harald's mail > that's not currently on that page to it. Thanks. > > Is this the new format/path of debugging pages for a given component how_to_debug__problem as opposed to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut/Debugging or /Debugging> and are we going to move all debugging pages under how_to_debug?? Who ever changed the original one should take the time and update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut/Options to current options listen in git logs or atleast the man page and remove all 
 and {{admon}} 
to make it consistent with the new debugging page..

JBG



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct  1 22:26:05 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:26:05 -0700
Subject: HOWTO debug dracut
In-Reply-To: <4AC528B2.6070107@hi.is>
References: <4AC5047D.8020609@redhat.com>
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On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 22:09 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:

> > Please also see
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Dracut_problems , the
> > permanent reference for this topic. I'll add anything in Harald's mail
> > that's not currently on that page to it. Thanks.
> >
> >    
> Is this the new format/path of debugging pages for a given component 
> how_to_debug__problem as opposed to 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut/Debugging  or 
> /Debugging> and are we going to move all debugging pages 
> under how_to_debug??

It hasn't been officially discussed anywhere - I was using
Bug_info_componentname myself - but I think it's a good choice by
whoever came up with it. It also fits in with the request of the Wiki
admin team that we use flat page names, not nested ones.

> Who ever changed the original one should take the time and update 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut/Options to current options listen 
> in git logs or atleast the man page and remove all 
 and {{admon}} 
> to make it consistent with the new debugging page..

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From johannbg at hi.is  Thu Oct  1 23:39:37 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:39:37 +0000
Subject: HOWTO debug dracut
In-Reply-To: <1254435965.2269.41.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4AC5047D.8020609@redhat.com>	<1254427354.2269.32.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4AC528B2.6070107@hi.is> <1254435965.2269.41.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AC53DB9.9030103@hi.is>

On 10/01/2009 10:26 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 22:09 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>
>    
>>> Please also see
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Dracut_problems , the
>>> permanent reference for this topic. I'll add anything in Harald's mail
>>> that's not currently on that page to it. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Is this the new format/path of debugging pages for a given component
>> how_to_debug__problem as opposed to
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut/Debugging  or
>> /Debugging>  and are we going to move all debugging pages
>> under how_to_debug??
>>      
> It hasn't been officially discussed anywhere - I was using
> Bug_info_componentname myself - but I think it's a good choice by
> whoever came up with it. It also fits in with the request of the Wiki
> admin team that we use flat page names, not nested ones.
>
>    

Well I think the documentation team ( doc list cc-ed ) should provide us 
with rules and regulation ( or templates ) on how component page should 
be written including bug reporting etc.. and who the target audience is 
so at-least some consistency exist in the wiki, I personally write pages 
targeted at novice end user so they tend to be more step by step 
oriented since I believe that we should expose testing of a component to 
as wide audience as possible regardless of the individual skill ( it 
might be a kid taking his first step into the linux, Fedora community 
and participate or it might be an experienced user ) set while other 
voices in the community think that they should have University, RHCE or 
some other degree stuck up their ass to be able to participate in 
testing or other aspects of the community. When an indvidual changes the 
layout of my wiki written pages ( other than simply fix my ken-lee 
English ) I believe ( since he thinks he does a better job than me 
delivering the content of the page to well what he sees as the target 
audience ) that he will maintain the given component pages and keep it 
update to upstream documentation.  ( since he has the time to totally 
rewrite the page he should have the time to do the necessary research 
and keep it updated to upstream documentation/changes/git logs  ). It's 
not enough simply write those pages they need to be maintained and 
updated as well and I for one don't participate in wiki writing ping 
pong game..

JBG



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct  1 23:53:18 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:53:18 -0700
Subject: HOWTO debug dracut
In-Reply-To: <4AC53DB9.9030103@hi.is>
References: <4AC5047D.8020609@redhat.com>
	<1254427354.2269.32.camel@adam.local.net> <4AC528B2.6070107@hi.is>
	<1254435965.2269.41.camel@adam.local.net>  <4AC53DB9.9030103@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1254441198.2269.51.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 23:39 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> set while other 
> voices in the community think that they should have University, RHCE
> or 
> some other degree stuck up their ass to be able to participate in 
> testing or other aspects of the community 

I think you're setting up a straw man here. I haven't seen anyone on
this list suggest any such thing, and I don't see that any of the
existing pages are intentionally written in this way. It would be good
to have consistent styles for such pages, but there's no need to set it
up in such a confrontational way.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct  2 01:35:13 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:35:13 +0000
Subject: HOWTO debug dracut
In-Reply-To: <1254441198.2269.51.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4AC5047D.8020609@redhat.com>	<1254427354.2269.32.camel@adam.local.net>
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	<4AC53DB9.9030103@hi.is> <1254441198.2269.51.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AC558D1.6020605@hi.is>

On 10/01/2009 11:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 23:39 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>    
>> set while other
>> voices in the community think that they should have University, RHCE
>> or
>> some other degree stuck up their ass to be able to participate in
>> testing or other aspects of the community
>>      
> I think you're setting up a straw man here. I haven't seen anyone on
> this list suggest any such thing, and I don't see that any of the
> existing pages are intentionally written in this way. It would be good
> to have consistent styles for such pages, but there's no need to set it
> up in such a confrontational way.
>
>    

As I said "other voices" I never said they resided on this list ( I dont 
keep tap who's on this list or any other list for that matter ) however 
you should recall atleast one such debate when we rewrote/redesigned the 
QA frontpage on the wiki..  I feel we definitively needs some wiki rules 
and regulations. When I started to write wiki pages I was pointed out 
that I should write those pages on my name space followed by pointing 
other members of the community to that page and if the community was 
happy with the content/layout it would be move to the front  if not I 
should A) rewrite the page according to suggestion and resubmit or B) 
those that did not agree with the content layout of that page should 
draft what ever they think it should look like and submit that. if I 
would change an already published wiki page I should comment in the page 
it self why I made those changes . Now I had barely finished wikifying 
for example Sysrq ( Now  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Sysrq ) and 
was waiting for feed back from the community ( for example if it was 
simple/clear enough ) when it got yanked out of my personal space and 
dump where it resides now ( which probably not where the wiki admins 
want it to reside ). Either we create pages at will submit them when 
accepted they get move to the front then if a rewriting ( other than 
minor changes such as typo fixing etc ) occurs the individual that wants 
to rewrite the current page does so on his own name space and submits 
his changes or everybody hack everything everywhere on the wiki and 
constantly play wiki rewriting ping pong game of how their perception on 
how things should look/be written. One half says user your own namespace 
and submit your suggestion comment when changing.the other halfs says 
wanna change something on the wiki change it. I think the community 
needs to agree on which way it should be.

JBG

PS.
      Good coders make crappy documents. If and when they find the time 
to write them they usually tend to be to technical/development oriented 
even tho the indented audience is the end user.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct  2 04:02:11 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:02:11 -0700
Subject: HOWTO debug dracut
In-Reply-To: <4AC558D1.6020605@hi.is>
References: <4AC5047D.8020609@redhat.com>
	<1254427354.2269.32.camel@adam.local.net> <4AC528B2.6070107@hi.is>
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	<1254441198.2269.51.camel@adam.local.net>  <4AC558D1.6020605@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1254456131.2269.56.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 01:35 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:

> As I said "other voices" I never said they resided on this list ( I dont 
> keep tap who's on this list or any other list for that matter ) however 
> you should recall atleast one such debate when we rewrote/redesigned the 
> QA frontpage on the wiki..  I feel we definitively needs some wiki rules 

It would help if you'd split things into paragraphs, my eyes keep
glazing over after four lines...

> and regulations. When I started to write wiki pages I was pointed out 
> that I should write those pages on my name space followed by pointing 
> other members of the community to that page and if the community was 
> happy with the content/layout it would be move to the front  if not I 
> should A) rewrite the page according to suggestion and resubmit or B) 
> those that did not agree with the content layout of that page should 
> draft what ever they think it should look like and submit that. 

That's the procedure we follow for particularly significant and
important pages - like the most popular few pages for a group (the
Bugzappers front page, joining page etc). It doesn't scale to _every
page in the Wiki_, there just aren't the resources to review everything.
For a less significant page like this, it doesn't need review.

> if I 
> would change an already published wiki page I should comment in the page 
> it self why I made those changes .

That's not correct, you should explain in the comment box when you make
the change. If you need a longer justification than that space allows,
put it on the Talk page.

>  Now I had barely finished wikifying 
> for example Sysrq ( Now  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Sysrq ) and 
> was waiting for feed back from the community ( for example if it was 
> simple/clear enough ) when it got yanked out of my personal space and 
> dump where it resides now ( which probably not where the wiki admins 
> want it to reside ). 

That sounds strange, I didn't know anything about it happening at the
time. Who moved it? What was the rationale?

Having said that, that's probably an example of a page it's fine to just
create directly - it's not crucial enough to require drafting and formal
review, though of course it's always good to get other people's opinions
on the page if you can :)

> Either we create pages at will submit them when 
> accepted they get move to the front then if a rewriting ( other than 
> minor changes such as typo fixing etc ) occurs the individual that wants 
> to rewrite the current page does so on his own name space and submits 
> his changes or everybody hack everything everywhere on the wiki and 
> constantly play wiki rewriting ping pong game of how their perception on 
> how things should look/be written. 

In practice, it's usually easy to compromise. Since everyone's basically
pointing in the same direction here, and it's easy to collaborate, that
kind of ping-ponging doesn't happen too often. When it does get started,
we can agree to bring both perspectives to a meeting or ML discussion
and decide on the best approach with the approval of the rest of the
group.

> One half says user your own namespace 
> and submit your suggestion comment when changing.the other halfs says 
> wanna change something on the wiki change it. I think the community 
> needs to agree on which way it should be.

As I said, I don't think this is an area where there needs to be One
True Way. Different groups and different pages can take different
approaches. As long as the information gets out there in the end, it's
okay.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct  2 13:02:44 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:02:44 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091002 changes
Message-ID: <20091002130244.GA20686@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

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New package iwl1000-firmware



From kmaraas at broadpark.no  Fri Oct  2 13:56:18 2009
From: kmaraas at broadpark.no (Kjartan Maraas)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:56:18 +0200
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
Message-ID: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>

Hi.

I've been struggling with a few issues related to xorg and intel
graphics lately and would welcome discussion wrt these being serious
enough to consider blockers for FC12.

- Suspend / resume stopped working for me recently. Works from runlevel
3, but not from within Xorg
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526757

- Evolution has a tendency to hang after a suspend / resume cycle and
take the whole machine down with it when it does so
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492686

- Machine freezes from time to time. Possibly related to intel graphics
xorg driver again. Filed upstream bug here:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23969

Cheers
Kjartan




From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct  2 14:52:27 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:52:27 -0700
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 15:56 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I've been struggling with a few issues related to xorg and intel
> graphics lately and would welcome discussion wrt these being serious
> enough to consider blockers for FC12.
> 
> - Suspend / resume stopped working for me recently. Works from runlevel
> 3, but not from within Xorg
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526757

I wouldn't really consider that serious enough. suspend is always pretty
flaky and we've never held releases for suspend problems until now.

> - Evolution has a tendency to hang after a suspend / resume cycle and
> take the whole machine down with it when it does so
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492686

see above, but hanging the whole system is icky. If this isn't limited
to your hardware it's worth considering.

> - Machine freezes from time to time. Possibly related to intel graphics
> xorg driver again. Filed upstream bug here:
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23969

ditto with #2, depends how hardware-dependent it is.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From tom.horsley at att.net  Fri Oct  2 15:09:53 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:09:53 -0400
Subject: How do I keep intentionally unmounted filesystems out of the GTK
 file dialog?
Message-ID: <20091002110953.37cd7fa3@zooty>

I notice on my rawhide partition, if I do something like Save As
from firefox and ask to browse places to save, the file browser
dialog I get contains all the labels for all the unmounted file
systems I intentionally left out of fstab because I didn't want
to screw them up while testing rawhide.

How the devil do I convince the annoying file browser there was
a reason those filesystems are not mounted?



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Fri Oct  2 15:32:47 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:02:47 -0430
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 07:52 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 15:56 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > I've been struggling with a few issues related to xorg and intel
> > graphics lately and would welcome discussion wrt these being serious
> > enough to consider blockers for FC12.
> > 
> > - Suspend / resume stopped working for me recently. Works from runlevel
> > 3, but not from within Xorg
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526757
> 
> I wouldn't really consider that serious enough. suspend is always pretty
> flaky and we've never held releases for suspend problems until now.

Suspend/resume is currently working perfectly on my Eee netbook. Having
it not work perfectly in F12 would be a definite regression.

> > - Evolution has a tendency to hang after a suspend / resume cycle and
> > take the whole machine down with it when it does so
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492686
> 
> see above, but hanging the whole system is icky. If this isn't limited
> to your hardware it's worth considering.
> 
> > - Machine freezes from time to time. Possibly related to intel graphics
> > xorg driver again. Filed upstream bug here:
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23969
> 
> ditto with #2, depends how hardware-dependent it is.

Since we're talking about Intel video here, I think it has to be taken
pretty seriously. There are already problems with Intel on F11 with
OpenGL apps freezing the whole X session, and Intel is supposed to be
one of the fully supported chipsets. 

poc



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct  2 15:42:57 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:42:57 -0700
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <1254498177.2269.62.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 11:02 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> > > - Suspend / resume stopped working for me recently. Works from runlevel
> > > 3, but not from within Xorg
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526757
> > 
> > I wouldn't really consider that serious enough. suspend is always pretty
> > flaky and we've never held releases for suspend problems until now.
> 
> Suspend/resume is currently working perfectly on my Eee netbook. Having
> it not work perfectly in F12 would be a definite regression.

No-one said it wouldn't. The above is a single report by a single
reporter, we can't generalize from that.

> > > - Machine freezes from time to time. Possibly related to intel graphics
> > > xorg driver again. Filed upstream bug here:
> > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23969
> > 
> > ditto with #2, depends how hardware-dependent it is.
> 
> Since we're talking about Intel video here, I think it has to be taken
> pretty seriously. There are already problems with Intel on F11 with
> OpenGL apps freezing the whole X session, and Intel is supposed to be
> one of the fully supported chipsets. 

as I said, it depends how many chips are affected. you can't assume any
graphics bug affects more than one chip without multiple reports.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct  2 16:12:36 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:12:36 -0600
Subject: How do I keep intentionally unmounted filesystems out of the
	GTK file dialog?
In-Reply-To: <20091002110953.37cd7fa3@zooty>
References: <20091002110953.37cd7fa3@zooty>
Message-ID: <20091002161236.GA23074@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 11:09:53AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I notice on my rawhide partition, if I do something like Save As
> from firefox and ask to browse places to save, the file browser
> dialog I get contains all the labels for all the unmounted file
> systems I intentionally left out of fstab because I didn't want
> to screw them up while testing rawhide.

You see those in a file selector because you have the same file
systems also in in a browser for your "Computer" icon and also in
"Places" menu.

> How the devil do I convince the annoying file browser there was
> a reason those filesystems are not mounted?

Apparently you cannot as this is considered a proper "user-friendly"
behaviour with no ways to make it less so.  Quite a while ago I
tried to explain that this is nothing but and also has obscene
security implications.  All my arguments fallen on deaf ears and bug
reports were closed WONTFIX.  I gave up.  I will be not drawn into
the same conversation again but if somebody has ways to prevent that
nastiness I am all ears.

   Michal



From jkeating at redhat.com  Fri Oct  2 16:26:25 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:26:25 -0700
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <1254500785.2546.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 11:02 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> Since we're talking about Intel video here, I think it has to be taken
> pretty seriously. There are already problems with Intel on F11 with
> OpenGL apps freezing the whole X session, and Intel is supposed to be
> one of the fully supported chipsets. 
> 

Depends on which intel you're talking about.  i965 seems to be working
just fine wrt suspend/resume.


-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From kmaraas at broadpark.no  Fri Oct  2 16:38:15 2009
From: kmaraas at broadpark.no (Kjartan Maraas)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:38:15 +0200
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1254501495.2163.8.camel@localhost>

fr., 02.10.2009 kl. 07.52 -0700, skrev Adam Williamson:
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 15:56 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > I've been struggling with a few issues related to xorg and intel
> > graphics lately and would welcome discussion wrt these being serious
> > enough to consider blockers for FC12.
> > 
> > - Suspend / resume stopped working for me recently. Works from runlevel
> > 3, but not from within Xorg
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526757
> 
> I wouldn't really consider that serious enough. suspend is always pretty
> flaky and we've never held releases for suspend problems until now.
> 
Suspend + resume has worked flawlessly on this laptop for a long time
with the occacional glitch in rawhide of course. The machine is a HP
Compaq nc6400 and was quite popular as a "business" laptop over here a
couple of years ago at least. I've got another one just like it so I can
test whether this is bad hardware at least :-)

> > - Evolution has a tendency to hang after a suspend / resume cycle and
> > take the whole machine down with it when it does so
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492686
> 
> see above, but hanging the whole system is icky. If this isn't limited
> to your hardware it's worth considering.
> 
See the thread I pointed to in the last comment. This looked like it's a
general kernel problem and is quite similar to one of the top reported
oops by kerneloops:

http://kerneloops.org/searchweek.php?search=warn_slowpath_null

> > - Machine freezes from time to time. Possibly related to intel graphics
> > xorg driver again. Filed upstream bug here:
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23969
> 
> ditto with #2, depends how hardware-dependent it is.
> 
Still trying to get more information out of this bug. Any pointers to
things I can do to get more output from xorg, the intel driver or the
kernel here?

Cheers
Kjartan




From kmaraas at broadpark.no  Fri Oct  2 16:40:02 2009
From: kmaraas at broadpark.no (Kjartan Maraas)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:40:02 +0200
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254500785.2546.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254500785.2546.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1254501602.2163.10.camel@localhost>

fr., 02.10.2009 kl. 09.26 -0700, skrev Jesse Keating:
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 11:02 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> > Since we're talking about Intel video here, I think it has to be taken
> > pretty seriously. There are already problems with Intel on F11 with
> > OpenGL apps freezing the whole X session, and Intel is supposed to be
> > one of the fully supported chipsets. 
> > 
> 
> Depends on which intel you're talking about.  i965 seems to be working
> just fine wrt suspend/resume.
> 

This one has the following which has worked just fine up until the last
week or so in rawhide:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML
and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS,
943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME,
943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)

Cheers
Kjartan




From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct  2 16:53:40 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:53:40 -0700
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254501495.2163.8.camel@localhost>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254501495.2163.8.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1254502420.2269.66.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:38 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:

> > > - Suspend / resume stopped working for me recently. Works from runlevel
> > > 3, but not from within Xorg
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526757
> > 
> > I wouldn't really consider that serious enough. suspend is always pretty
> > flaky and we've never held releases for suspend problems until now.
> > 
> Suspend + resume has worked flawlessly on this laptop for a long time
> with the occacional glitch in rawhide of course. The machine is a HP
> Compaq nc6400 and was quite popular as a "business" laptop over here a
> couple of years ago at least. I've got another one just like it so I can
> test whether this is bad hardware at least :-)

Sure, understood, but unfortunately I'm not sure we can practically
consider even regressions in suspend support to be blockers :/ just my
opinion though, you could certainly stick it on the list to be reviewed
at a meeting.

> > > - Evolution has a tendency to hang after a suspend / resume cycle and
> > > take the whole machine down with it when it does so
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492686
> > 
> > see above, but hanging the whole system is icky. If this isn't limited
> > to your hardware it's worth considering.
> > 
> See the thread I pointed to in the last comment. This looked like it's a
> general kernel problem and is quite similar to one of the top reported
> oops by kerneloops:
> 
> http://kerneloops.org/searchweek.php?search=warn_slowpath_null

Right. I'd probably consider that a final release blocker, then.

> > > - Machine freezes from time to time. Possibly related to intel graphics
> > > xorg driver again. Filed upstream bug here:
> > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23969
> > 
> > ditto with #2, depends how hardware-dependent it is.
> > 
> Still trying to get more information out of this bug. Any pointers to
> things I can do to get more output from xorg, the intel driver or the
> kernel here?

You could perhaps also attach Xorg.0.log after a hang? it may have
something useful at the end. you'd have to boot to runlevel 3 to take a
copy of it, of course.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From kmaraas at broadpark.no  Fri Oct  2 17:05:03 2009
From: kmaraas at broadpark.no (Kjartan Maraas)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:05:03 +0200
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254502420.2269.66.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254501495.2163.8.camel@localhost>
	<1254502420.2269.66.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1254503103.2163.12.camel@localhost>

fr., 02.10.2009 kl. 09.53 -0700, skrev Adam Williamson:
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:38 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> 
> > > > - Machine freezes from time to time. Possibly related to intel graphics
> > > > xorg driver again. Filed upstream bug here:
> > > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23969
> > > 
> > > ditto with #2, depends how hardware-dependent it is.
> > > 
> > Still trying to get more information out of this bug. Any pointers to
> > things I can do to get more output from xorg, the intel driver or the
> > kernel here?
> 
> You could perhaps also attach Xorg.0.log after a hang? it may have
> something useful at the end. you'd have to boot to runlevel 3 to take a
> copy of it, of course.
> 
There's never anything interesting in Xorg.0.log after these hangs
unfortunately. Is there no extra debugging that could be turned on in
the driver or kernel for these cases?

Cheers
Kjartan




From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct  2 17:15:20 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:15:20 -0700
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254503103.2163.12.camel@localhost>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254501495.2163.8.camel@localhost>
	<1254502420.2269.66.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254503103.2163.12.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1254503720.2269.69.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 19:05 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> fr., 02.10.2009 kl. 09.53 -0700, skrev Adam Williamson:
> > On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:38 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> > 
> > > > > - Machine freezes from time to time. Possibly related to intel graphics
> > > > > xorg driver again. Filed upstream bug here:
> > > > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23969
> > > > 
> > > > ditto with #2, depends how hardware-dependent it is.
> > > > 
> > > Still trying to get more information out of this bug. Any pointers to
> > > things I can do to get more output from xorg, the intel driver or the
> > > kernel here?
> > 
> > You could perhaps also attach Xorg.0.log after a hang? it may have
> > something useful at the end. you'd have to boot to runlevel 3 to take a
> > copy of it, of course.
> > 
> There's never anything interesting in Xorg.0.log after these hangs
> unfortunately. Is there no extra debugging that could be turned on in
> the driver or kernel for these cases?

You can use the -logverbose parameter for X (see man Xorg). Not sure if
there's a way to increase the verbosity of the intel driver kernel
module, though.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Fri Oct  2 17:27:47 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:57:47 -0430
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254500785.2546.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254500785.2546.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1254504467.3624.97.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 09:26 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 11:02 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> > Since we're talking about Intel video here, I think it has to be taken
> > pretty seriously. There are already problems with Intel on F11 with
> > OpenGL apps freezing the whole X session, and Intel is supposed to be
> > one of the fully supported chipsets. 
> > 
> 
> Depends on which intel you're talking about.  i965 seems to be working
> just fine wrt suspend/resume.

My comment was about Intel freezing the whole desktop (by which I mean
under normal use, not when resuming). My video is "Intel Corporation
82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)".

Please note that I'm talking about F11, as my post makes clear. I
haven't tried Rawhide yet, so my comment was in the sense of "let's hope
it doesn't get any worse".

poc



From Robin.Laing at drdc-rddc.gc.ca  Fri Oct  2 17:35:40 2009
From: Robin.Laing at drdc-rddc.gc.ca (Robin Laing)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:35:40 -0600
Subject: How do I keep intentionally unmounted filesystems out of the
 GTK file dialog?
In-Reply-To: <20091002161236.GA23074@mail.harddata.com>
References: <20091002110953.37cd7fa3@zooty>
	<20091002161236.GA23074@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <4AC639EC.4050201@drdc-rddc.gc.ca>

Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 11:09:53AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:

> Apparently you cannot as this is considered a proper "user-friendly"
> behaviour with no ways to make it less so.  Quite a while ago I
> tried to explain that this is nothing but and also has obscene
> security implications.  All my arguments fallen on deaf ears and bug
> reports were closed WONTFIX.  I gave up.  I will be not drawn into
> the same conversation again but if somebody has ways to prevent that
> nastiness I am all ears.
> 
>    Michal
> 

On this matter I am in agreement with you.  I use personal home 
partitions and some of these are now encrypted.  As more and more 
partitions are added, this could get quite messy.

Can you provide the bug numbers for your requests?  Could be worth 
referencing for new RFE's.

I think that this could be an issue with people wanting hidden 
directories when travelling with laptops, especially when crossing boarders.


-- 
Robin Laing



From kmaraas at broadpark.no  Fri Oct  2 17:44:57 2009
From: kmaraas at broadpark.no (Kjartan Maraas)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:44:57 +0200
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254504467.3624.97.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254500785.2546.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1254504467.3624.97.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <1254505497.2163.14.camel@localhost>

fr., 02.10.2009 kl. 12.57 -0430, skrev Patrick O'Callaghan:
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 09:26 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 11:02 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > 
> > > Since we're talking about Intel video here, I think it has to be taken
> > > pretty seriously. There are already problems with Intel on F11 with
> > > OpenGL apps freezing the whole X session, and Intel is supposed to be
> > > one of the fully supported chipsets. 
> > > 
> > 
> > Depends on which intel you're talking about.  i965 seems to be working
> > just fine wrt suspend/resume.
> 
> My comment was about Intel freezing the whole desktop (by which I mean
> under normal use, not when resuming). My video is "Intel Corporation
> 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)".
> 
> Please note that I'm talking about F11, as my post makes clear. I
> haven't tried Rawhide yet, so my comment was in the sense of "let's hope
> it doesn't get any worse".
> 
I also see freezes without having suspended which is what the last
report I listed was about. This is with i945. The problem started for me
when KMS was enabled which IIRC was before F11 so it could still be
related.

Cheers
Kjartan




From wwoods at redhat.com  Fri Oct  2 18:02:30 2009
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:02:30 -0400
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254505497.2163.14.camel@localhost>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254500785.2546.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1254504467.3624.97.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254505497.2163.14.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1254506550.2704.2.camel@metroid>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 19:44 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
 
> I also see freezes without having suspended which is what the last
> report I listed was about. This is with i945. The problem started for me
> when KMS was enabled which IIRC was before F11 so it could still be
> related.

Are you sure it's an actual freeze? Some i915 laptops have had problems
with the display going dark after lid close - see 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489907
and
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21230
which is the upstream bug.

The system is still active, the screen has just gone back. And note that
actual suspend/resume works totally fine (and the display comes back
normally) for my system that has this problem. Switching the system to
suspend on all lid closes (even on battery) makes life much more
bearable.

-w



From kmaraas at broadpark.no  Fri Oct  2 18:17:19 2009
From: kmaraas at broadpark.no (Kjartan Maraas)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:17:19 +0200
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254506550.2704.2.camel@metroid>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254500785.2546.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1254504467.3624.97.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254505497.2163.14.camel@localhost> <1254506550.2704.2.camel@metroid>
Message-ID: <1254507439.2163.19.camel@localhost>

fr., 02.10.2009 kl. 14.02 -0400, skrev Will Woods:
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 19:44 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
>  
> > I also see freezes without having suspended which is what the last
> > report I listed was about. This is with i945. The problem started for me
> > when KMS was enabled which IIRC was before F11 so it could still be
> > related.
> 
> Are you sure it's an actual freeze? Some i915 laptops have had problems
> with the display going dark after lid close - see 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489907
> and
> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21230
> which is the upstream bug.
> 
> The system is still active, the screen has just gone back. And note that
> actual suspend/resume works totally fine (and the display comes back
> normally) for my system that has this problem. Switching the system to
> suspend on all lid closes (even on battery) makes life much more
> bearable.
> 
The freezes I've seen have happened after boot and without me closing
the lid at all so I think this is something separate.

The "hang" after suspend/resume looks like it could be something like
this though. Hitting caps lock turns on the led at least. I still can't
even shut down using the power button or ctrl+alt+delete.

I'll look at the reports above and comment if it seems relatede.

Cheers
Kjartan



From jlaska at redhat.com  Fri Oct  2 18:47:39 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:47:39 -0400
Subject: F-12 Beta Blocker Meeting 2009-10-02 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT) - Recap
In-Reply-To: <1254426205.2388.251.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1254426205.2388.251.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1254509259.2253.75.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 15:43 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> When: Friday, 2009-10-02 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT)
> Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

Thanks to all in attendance!  See below for the meeting summary.

================================================
#fedora-bugzappers: F-12 Beta Blocker Bug Review
================================================


Meeting started by jlaska at 14:58:39 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2009-10-02/fedora-bugzappers.2009-10-02-14.58.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* Gathering warm bodies ...  (jlaska, 14:59:05)
  * LINK:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F12Beta&hide_resolved=1
    (jlaska, 15:04:34)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516042  (jlaska, 15:04:56)
  * ACTION: jlaska to retest using anaconda-12.32 and post feedback into
    516042  (jlaska, 15:07:18)
  * ACTION: kparal to assist with filing any additional failures on the
    repo dialogs next week  (jlaska, 15:07:39)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519237  (jlaska, 15:08:00)
  * ACTION: jlaska to retest updated util-linux packages in 519237 using
    a rebuilt initrd  (jlaska, 15:10:32)
  * AGREED: keep 519237 on the F12Beta list ... impacts developers and
    servers  (jlaska, 15:21:04)
  * ACTION: jlaska will retest after rebuilding the initrd with the
    updated packages installed  (jlaska, 15:21:22)
  * AGREED: keep 519237 on the F12Beta list ... impacts developers and
    servers  (jlaska, 15:22:17)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522675  (jlaska, 15:22:27)
  * HELP: anyone experiencing problems with USB keyboard/mouse ...
    please add thoughts to bug#522675  (jlaska, 15:26:09)
  * ACTION: remove from F12Beta and continue working this issue
    (jlaska, 15:27:48)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526158  (jlaska, 15:28:56)
  * AGREED: remove bug#526158 from F12Beta  ... reasonable workaround
    exists and specific to VGA on ppc64  (jlaska, 15:32:49)
  * ACTION: jlaska to remove 526158 from F12Beta  (jlaska, 15:33:10)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526208  (jlaska, 15:34:05)
  * LINK: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/drafts.html   (stickster,
    15:37:19)
  * LINK:
    http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html-single/#d0e17809
    (jlaska, 15:38:34)
  * HELP: Help testing preupgrade from F-11 -> rawhide is needed ...
    please update bug#526208 with your findings  (jlaska, 15:44:52)
  * AGREED: Bug#526208 remains on the list and awaits additional testing
    to provide traceback  (jlaska, 15:45:46)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526320  (jlaska, 15:46:00)
  * AGREED: Bug#526320 remains a F12Beta blocker - can't have install
    images go missing for a primary arch  (jlaska, 15:48:24)
  * ACTION: Oxf13 will continue working 526320 for root cause  (jlaska,
    15:48:46)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526380  (jlaska, 15:49:02)
  * AGREED: bug#526380 remains on blocker list ... newer package already
    tagged  (jlaska, 15:51:44)
  * ACTION: move 526380 to CLOSED -> RAWHIDE as a newer package is
    already available  (jlaska, 15:52:00)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2250   (Oxf13,
    15:53:02)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526470  (jlaska, 15:54:12)
  * AGREED: bug#526470 represents a larger issue related to the
    nfs-utils defaulting to v4 mounts (and then reverting).  This issue
    should remain a blocker and needs retesting  (jlaska, 16:07:49)
  * ACTION: Provide test root=nfs:... test feedback for bug 526470
    (jlaska, 16:08:30)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517260  (jlaska, 16:09:12)
  * AGREED: reopened bug 517260 is a valid blocker  (jlaska, 16:11:20)
  * ACTION: denise will help gather some devel feedback on the issue
    (jlaska, 16:11:39)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523862  (jlaska, 16:11:49)
  * AGREED: bug 523862 is a valid beta blocker  (jlaska, 16:14:39)
  * ACTION: feedback needed from dledford on 523862  (jlaska, 16:15:37)
  * ACTION: denise and jlaska reaching out for helpers  (jlaska,
    16:17:23)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526535  (jlaska, 16:17:50)
  * AGREED: after good discussion around related changes, the group
    agreed to accept a fix for bug#526535 and several other NM changes
    that would be good to get broad testing from beta testers  (jlaska,
    16:36:46)

* open discussion  (jlaska, 16:38:53)
  * ACTION: dcbw will fix keys not shown as well, then rebuild pacakges,
    then follow up on the jlaska's mail with link to packages  (jlaska,
    16:39:38)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526652  (jlaska, 16:40:44)
  * ACTION: twaugh going to retest 526652 to further isolate the root
    cause  (jlaska, 16:52:10)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518880  (jlaska, 16:52:45)
  * AGREED: 518880 remains a final F12Blocker but isn't appropriate to
    block beta.  (jlaska, 16:56:20)
  * AGREED: bug 526208 represents a valid F-11 preupgrade package bug
    that should be fixed for F-12-Beta release  (jlaska, 17:05:24)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526652  (jlaska, 17:09:34)
  * AGREED: #526652 does not get promoted to beta blocker as it is not
    reproducible on other systems and a workaround is available  (adamw,
    17:20:05)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526842 ?  (adamw,
    17:28:35)
  * AGREED: 526842 becomes a beta blocker, action is on developers
    (clumens+plymouth team)  (adamw, 17:32:19)

Meeting ended at 17:36:08 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* jlaska to retest using anaconda-12.32 and post feedback into 516042
* kparal to assist with filing any additional failures on the repo
  dialogs next week
* jlaska to retest updated util-linux packages in 519237 using a rebuilt
  initrd
* jlaska will retest after rebuilding the initrd with the updated
  packages installed
* remove from F12Beta and continue working this issue
* jlaska to remove 526158 from F12Beta
* Oxf13 will continue working 526320 for root cause
* move 526380 to CLOSED -> RAWHIDE as a newer package is already
  available
* Provide test root=nfs:... test feedback for bug 526470
* denise will help gather some devel feedback on the issue
* feedback needed from dledford on 523862
* denise and jlaska reaching out for helpers
* dcbw will fix keys not shown as well, then rebuild pacakges, then
  follow up on the jlaska's mail with link to packages
* twaugh going to retest 526652 to further isolate the root cause




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* dcbw
  * dcbw will fix keys not shown as well, then rebuild pacakges, then
    follow up on the jlaska's mail with link to packages
* denise
  * denise will help gather some devel feedback on the issue
  * denise and jlaska reaching out for helpers
* jlaska
  * jlaska to retest using anaconda-12.32 and post feedback into 516042
  * jlaska to retest updated util-linux packages in 519237 using a
    rebuilt initrd
  * jlaska will retest after rebuilding the initrd with the updated
    packages installed
  * jlaska to remove 526158 from F12Beta
  * denise and jlaska reaching out for helpers
  * dcbw will fix keys not shown as well, then rebuild pacakges, then
    follow up on the jlaska's mail with link to packages
* Oxf13
  * Oxf13 will continue working 526320 for root cause
* twaugh
  * twaugh going to retest 526652 to further isolate the root cause
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * kparal to assist with filing any additional failures on the repo
    dialogs next week
  * remove from F12Beta and continue working this issue
  * move 526380 to CLOSED -> RAWHIDE as a newer package is already
    available
  * Provide test root=nfs:... test feedback for bug 526470
  * feedback needed from dledford on 523862




People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* jlaska (214)
* adamw (185)
* Oxf13 (102)
* mclasen (31)
* buggbot (29)
* twaugh (28)
* wwoods (26)
* dcbw (17)
* steved (13)
* denise (10)
* greenlion (7)
* nirik (4)
* stickster (4)
* zodbot (3)
* thomasj (2)
* notting (2)
* crobinso (2)
* SMParrish (1)

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From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Fri Oct  2 18:52:31 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:22:31 -0430
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254505497.2163.14.camel@localhost>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254500785.2546.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1254504467.3624.97.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254505497.2163.14.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1254509551.3624.114.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 19:44 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> fr., 02.10.2009 kl. 12.57 -0430, skrev Patrick O'Callaghan:
> > On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 09:26 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 11:02 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Since we're talking about Intel video here, I think it has to be taken
> > > > pretty seriously. There are already problems with Intel on F11 with
> > > > OpenGL apps freezing the whole X session, and Intel is supposed to be
> > > > one of the fully supported chipsets. 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Depends on which intel you're talking about.  i965 seems to be working
> > > just fine wrt suspend/resume.
> > 
> > My comment was about Intel freezing the whole desktop (by which I mean
> > under normal use, not when resuming). My video is "Intel Corporation
> > 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)".
> > 
> > Please note that I'm talking about F11, as my post makes clear. I
> > haven't tried Rawhide yet, so my comment was in the sense of "let's hope
> > it doesn't get any worse".
> > 
> I also see freezes without having suspended which is what the last
> report I listed was about. This is with i945. The problem started for me
> when KMS was enabled which IIRC was before F11 so it could still be
> related.

I may have unwittingly misled people about my exact situation so let me
be very explicit:

I'm running with KMS and F11 on the netbook, and have had no freezes,
nor any problems with suspend/resume. The video chipset is an Intel
945GME, rev 03. The system is (obviously) 32-bit.

I'm running without KMS on my desktop machine, and that's where I get
freezes when I use OpenGL apps (not otherwise). As stated earlier, this
is an Intel 82Q963/Q965 rev 02. This system is x86_64 with an Intel
mobo. I used to have frequent OpenGL freezes (everything dead except the
mouse) which I reported at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510948. The problem seemed
to go away with a kernel update, to kernel-2.6.30.5-32.fc11.x86_64, but
now seems to have returned in kernel-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.x86_64 and
kernel-2.6.30.8-64.fc11.x86_64, with two differences: 1) it's much less
frequent e.g. the earlier problem was completely reproducible every time
I ran foobillard whereas the new one only happens maybe once every 5 or
so runs, and 2) now the mouse is also frozen where earlier it was
movable.

Sorry if this is now OT.

poc



From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct  2 19:32:07 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:32:07 -0600
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254509551.3624.114.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254500785.2546.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1254504467.3624.97.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254505497.2163.14.camel@localhost>
	<1254509551.3624.114.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <20091002193207.GB21811@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 02:22:31PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> I'm running without KMS on my desktop machine, and that's where I get
> freezes when I use OpenGL apps (not otherwise). As stated earlier, this
> is an Intel 82Q963/Q965 rev 02. This system is x86_64 with an Intel
> mobo. I used to have frequent OpenGL freezes (everything dead except the
> mouse) which I reported at
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510948. The problem seemed
> to go away with a kernel update, to kernel-2.6.30.5-32.fc11.x86_64, but
> now seems to have returned in kernel-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.x86_64 and
> kernel-2.6.30.8-64.fc11.x86_64,

Hm, I have seen recently random total freezes of that sort
(everything is dead, including a network, and no traces of anything
anywhere) while running xscreensaver-gl* pieces on Fedora 11 desktop
machine but with radeon graphics driver.  So maybe this is some
nasty interaction between OpenGL and recent fc11 kernels instead of
an intel driver fault?

Turning off specific xscreensaver-gl executables (sometimes one sees
leftover image fragments on a screen indicating an apparent
offender) was of no help.

   Michal



From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct  2 20:18:57 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:18:57 -0600
Subject: How do I keep intentionally unmounted filesystems out of the
	GTK file dialog?
In-Reply-To: <4AC639EC.4050201@drdc-rddc.gc.ca>
References: <20091002110953.37cd7fa3@zooty>
	<20091002161236.GA23074@mail.harddata.com>
	<4AC639EC.4050201@drdc-rddc.gc.ca>
Message-ID: <20091002201857.GE21811@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 11:35:40AM -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
> 
> I think that this could be an issue with people wanting hidden 
> directories when travelling with laptops, especially when crossing boarders.

Thinking about this again if such "undesirable" partitions will
be added to /etc/fstab with "noauto" option (mount points likely
immaterial) then they should be not mounted and _maybe_ they will
vanish from a list of "removables" too.  I did not test that but
it will possibly work.  If somebody tested that then please post
here.

Not exactly "hidden" but it could somewhat alleviate the issue.

I mentioned already that recently I bumped into a DVD drive which
when empty it presents to OS, clearly through firmware,  a _fake_
volume with a label "Bluebirds" and some "PE32 executable for MS
Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit" files on it.  Very useful!  I do
not have a good way to permanently hide that one either.

   Michal



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Fri Oct  2 22:20:47 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:50:47 -0430
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <20091002193207.GB21811@mail.harddata.com>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254500785.2546.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1254504467.3624.97.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254505497.2163.14.camel@localhost>
	<1254509551.3624.114.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<20091002193207.GB21811@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <1254522047.3624.122.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 13:32 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 02:22:31PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> > I'm running without KMS on my desktop machine, and that's where I get
> > freezes when I use OpenGL apps (not otherwise). As stated earlier, this
> > is an Intel 82Q963/Q965 rev 02. This system is x86_64 with an Intel
> > mobo. I used to have frequent OpenGL freezes (everything dead except the
> > mouse) which I reported at
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510948. The problem seemed
> > to go away with a kernel update, to kernel-2.6.30.5-32.fc11.x86_64, but
> > now seems to have returned in kernel-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.x86_64 and
> > kernel-2.6.30.8-64.fc11.x86_64,
> 
> Hm, I have seen recently random total freezes of that sort
> (everything is dead, including a network, and no traces of anything
> anywhere) while running xscreensaver-gl* pieces on Fedora 11 desktop
> machine but with radeon graphics driver.  So maybe this is some
> nasty interaction between OpenGL and recent fc11 kernels instead of
> an intel driver fault?

Could be. I was surprised when the kernel update fixed the problem, at
least temporarily, expecting it to be more an xorg-x11-drv-intel thing.

I tried remote access several times before the kernel 2.6.30.5 update
and ssh was working at that time. There was no way to kill Xorg or get
to runlevel 3 but the shell worked and I could run reboot. I assumed
kernel corruption of some kind. I haven't tried it again with the more
recent updates.

> Turning off specific xscreensaver-gl executables (sometimes one sees
> leftover image fragments on a screen indicating an apparent
> offender) was of no help.

I use a simple screensaver, and I'm not getting any freezes except when
running OpenGL apps.

poc



From bruno at wolff.to  Sat Oct  3 04:10:34 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:10:34 -0500
Subject: Anaconda on a Test Day CD?
In-Reply-To: <1254245014.2862.28.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1150510032.664071254239661272.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<4AC23E0F.9040206@hi.is> <1254245014.2862.28.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20091003041034.GA23043@wolff.to>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:23:34 -0700,
  Adam Williamson  wrote:
> 
> Kamil noted explicitly that anaconda _dependencies_ are often broken,
> which is usually not the fault of anaconda.
> 
> anaconda is developed just as any other Fedora component is.

Anaconda is considered a critical package and I believe that also makes
it dependencies critical packages. Eventually these packages are all
supposed to be handled more carefully so that rawhide is very likely
to be installable, bootable and updatable at any point in time.

There was also a separate initiative to make the last know good rawhide
available when rawhide does have critical breakage. That proposal doesn't
seem to have been implemented as described, but may be going on in some
form.

See:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages_Proposal
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Israwhidebroken.com_Proposal



From idht4n at gmail.com  Sat Oct  3 13:28:00 2009
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:28:00 -0700
Subject: mingw gtkmm problem
Message-ID: 

In rawhide I'm getting an error trying to compile a gtkmm app:

/usr/i686-pc-mingw32/sys-root/mingw/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm.h:116:39:
error: gtkmm/pagesetupunixdialog.h: No such file or directory
/usr/i686-pc-mingw32/sys-root/mingw/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm.h:119:27:
error: gtkmm/printer.h: No such file or directory
/usr/i686-pc-mingw32/sys-root/mingw/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm.h:120:28:
error: gtkmm/printjob.h: No such file or directory
/usr/i686-pc-mingw32/sys-root/mingw/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm.h:124:35:
error: gtkmm/printunixdialog.h: No such file or directory

Maybe I didn't install all the packages I need, but I don't see why
I could have gtkmm.h but not some of the files that it includes.

Regards,

                  David



From mclasen at redhat.com  Sat Oct  3 14:47:39 2009
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:47:39 -0400
Subject: F-12 Beta Blocker Meeting 2009-10-02 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT) -
 Recap
In-Reply-To: <1254532668.11531.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1254426205.2388.251.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1254509259.2253.75.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1254532668.11531.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1254581259.1690.0.camel@planemask>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:17 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 14:47 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> > * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526535  (jlaska, 16:17:50)
> >   * AGREED: after good discussion around related changes, the group
> >     agreed to accept a fix for bug#526535 and several other NM changes
> >     that would be good to get broad testing from beta testers  (jlaska,
> >     16:36:46)
> > 
> > * open discussion  (jlaska, 16:38:53)
> >   * ACTION: dcbw will fix keys not shown as well, then rebuild pacakges,
> >     then follow up on the jlaska's mail with link to packages  (jlaska,
> >     16:39:38)
> 
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1725454
> 
> * Fri Oct  2 2009 Dan Williams  - 0.7.996-4.git20091002
> - install: fix -gnome package %pre script failures (rh #526519)
> - nm: fix failures validating private keys when using the NSS crypto backend
> - applet: fix crashes when clicking on menu but not associated (rh #526535)
> - editor: fix crash editing wired 802.1x settings
> - editor: fix secrets retrieval when editing connections
> 

Shouldn't you have built that in dist-f12 ?




From mclasen at redhat.com  Sat Oct  3 15:40:19 2009
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:40:19 -0400
Subject: F-12 Beta Blocker Meeting 2009-10-02 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT) -
 Recap
In-Reply-To: <1254581259.1690.0.camel@planemask>
References: <1254426205.2388.251.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1254509259.2253.75.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1254532668.11531.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1254581259.1690.0.camel@planemask>
Message-ID: <1254584419.1690.8.camel@planemask>

On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 10:47 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:17 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 14:47 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> > > * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526535  (jlaska, 16:17:50)
> > >   * AGREED: after good discussion around related changes, the group
> > >     agreed to accept a fix for bug#526535 and several other NM changes
> > >     that would be good to get broad testing from beta testers  (jlaska,
> > >     16:36:46)
> > > 
> > > * open discussion  (jlaska, 16:38:53)
> > >   * ACTION: dcbw will fix keys not shown as well, then rebuild pacakges,
> > >     then follow up on the jlaska's mail with link to packages  (jlaska,
> > >     16:39:38)
> > 
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1725454
> > 
> > * Fri Oct  2 2009 Dan Williams  - 0.7.996-4.git20091002
> > - install: fix -gnome package %pre script failures (rh #526519)
> > - nm: fix failures validating private keys when using the NSS crypto backend
> > - applet: fix crashes when clicking on menu but not associated (rh #526535)
> > - editor: fix crash editing wired 802.1x settings
> > - editor: fix secrets retrieval when editing connections
> > 
> 
> Shouldn't you have built that in dist-f12 ?

I've started an F12 build now, so we can get some testing over the
weekend:  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1725789




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct  3 19:13:36 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:13:36 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091003191336.1336C10F88B@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    amarok-2.2.0-2.fc10
    arora-0.10.0-2.fc10
    bibtex2html-1.94-1.fc10
    dbus-cxx-0.5.0-1.fc10
    deltarpm-3.4-11.fc10.1
    digikam-0.10.0-3.fc10
    kdeedu-4.3.1-4.fc10
    kdesvn-1.4.1-1.fc10
    kdevplatform-0.9.95-0.3.beta5.fc10
    krazy2-2.9-4.20090928svn.fc10.1
    libburn-0.7.0-1.fc10
    mimetex-1.71-1.fc10
    mod_gnutls-0.5.5-5.fc10
    php-ZendFramework-1.9.3-1.PL1.fc10
    popfile-1.1.1-3.fc10
    sblim-sfcc-2.1.0-0.fc10
    taglib-1.6-2.fc10
    taglib-extras-1.0.1-1.fc10
    uget-1.5.0-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 amarok-2.2.0-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10218)
 Media player
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The Amarok team is excited to announce the release of Amarok 2.2. After three
and a half months Amarok has made a huge leap forward and gained a lot of new
features and a lot of old features from 1.4 made a return.    See also:
http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/01/amarok-22-sunjammer-released
http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Rex Dieter  2.2.0-2
- Requires: kdebase-runtime (need kio_trash, kcm_phonon, etc)
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rex Dieter  2.2.0-1
- amarok-2.2.0
* Wed Sep 23 2009 Rex Dieter  2.1.90-2.20090923git
- 20090923git snapshot
* Mon Sep 21 2009 Rex Dieter  2.1.90-1
- amarok-2.1.90 (2.2rc1)
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Rex Dieter  2.1.85-2
- BR: taglib-devel >= 1.6, taglib-extras-devel >= 1.0
* Mon Sep 14 2009 Rex Dieter  2.1.85-1
- amarok-2.1.85 (2.2beta2)
* Wed Sep  2 2009 Rex Dieter  2.1.80-2
- another lyricwiki fix
* Wed Sep  2 2009 Rex Dieter  2.1.80-1
- amarok-2.1.80 (2.2beta1)
- -libs subpkg
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 2.1.1-5
- rebuilt with new openssl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 arora-0.10.0-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10219)
 A cross platform web browser
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 0.10.0    Changelog  - Add support for AdBlock.  - Add
Password Management / AutoFill.  - Session restoring.    And more, for full
Changelog see http://arorabrowser.blogspot.com/2009/10/arora-0100.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.0-2
- Fedorahome patch rebased
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.0-1
- Update to 0.10.0
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.9.0-2
- add icon/mime scriptlets
- don't own %{_mandir}/man1
- BR: qt4-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bibtex2html-1.94-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10194)
 Collection of tools for translating from BibTeX to HTML
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream 1.94: support for arXiv preprints links.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Guido Grazioli  - 1.94-1
- Upstream 1.94
* Tue Sep 22 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.93-5
- ExcludeArch sparc64 s390 s390x
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.93-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dbus-cxx-0.5.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10220)
 C++ bindings for the DBus library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This release has some new features, some bug fixes and some added support for
older versions of GCC and dbus, and new Ubuntu builds on Launchpad.    One of
the new features is preliminary support for arrays of fixed types. An   example
can be found in the signal examples directory and the two example  programs are
name signal_emitter_array and signal_receiver_array.    Many of the template
functions have been changed and are now generated by  M4 to support older
versions of GCC that don't recognize default template  function parameters.
Checks have been added and conditional code added to allow building  against
dbus 1.1 (and possibly dbus 1.0; only dbus 1.1 was tested). This  change,
combined with the GCC support changes, mean that dbus-cxx can  now be compiled
on RHEL 5. Builds will be available in Fedora shortly  for the EPEL 5 (RHEL 5,
CentOS 5) family.    Finally, there are numerous minor bug cleanups which should
significantly  reduce the amount of compile warnings generated.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr  - 0.5.0-1
- New release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 deltarpm-3.4-11.fc10.1 (FEDORA-2009-10233)
 Create deltas between rpms
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

deltarpm prior to the current build ships with a bundled copy of zlib.  This
version of zlib has a known vulnerability with CVE identifier: CAN-2005-1849
This build of deltarpm patches the program to use the system zlib (which was
fixed when the vulnerability was first discovered) instead of the bundled copy.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Toshio Kuratomi  - 3.4-11.1
- Build against the system zlib, not the bundled library.  This remedies the
  fact that the included zlib is affected by CAN-2005-1849.
- Fix cfile_detect_rsync() to detect rsync even if we don't have a zlib capable
  of making rsync-friendly compressed files.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526432 - deltarpm contains an own, modified copy of zlib
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526432
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 digikam-0.10.0-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-9949)
 A digital camera accessing & photo management application
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.10.0-3
- fix marble deps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #520954 - kdeedu embeds python-mwclient and it's broken
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520954
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.3.1-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-9949)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-4
- kdeedu-marble multilib fixes (rebuild for digikam botch)
* Tue Sep 22 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- Requires: python-mwclient (#520954)
* Sun Sep 20 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-2
- kdeedu embeds python-mwclient and it's broken (#520954)
- Requires: kross-python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #520954 - kdeedu embeds python-mwclient and it's broken
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520954
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesvn-1.4.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10174)
 A subversion client for KDE4 with KIO integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 1.4.1    Changelog  - kdesvnaskpass checks if last given
password were wrong and ignores stored pw in that case  - fixed a crasher while
update to new added items
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526665 - kdesvn-1.4.1 is available
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526665
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdevplatform-0.9.95-0.3.beta5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10161)
 Libraries for use by KDE development tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #504050 - Review Request: kdevplatform - Libraries for use by KDE development tools
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504050
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 krazy2-2.9-4.20090928svn.fc10.1 (FEDORA-2009-10161)
 Krazy is a tool for checking code against the KDE coding guidelines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Ben Boeckel  2.9-4.20090928svn.1
- Wait for newRepo task
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Ben Boeckel  2.9-4.20090928svn
- Update snapshot
- krazy2ebn is gone
- Use kdevplatform by default now
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.9-3.20090719svn
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #504050 - Review Request: kdevplatform - Libraries for use by KDE development tools
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504050
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libburn-0.7.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10173)
 Library for reading, mastering and writing optical discs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes an important cdrskin regression.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Denis Leroy  - 0.7.0-1
- Update to upstream 0.7.0
- Fixed binary installation
- Removed rpath
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mimetex-1.71-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10225)
 Easily embed LaTeX math in web pages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Fixes a buffer-overflow as detailed in #511049.  - Updates to 1.7.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Jorge Torres  - 1.71-1
- Update to 1.71
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.60-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.60-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #511049 - CVE-2009-1382 CVE-2009-2459 mimeTeX: various flaws
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511049
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mod_gnutls-0.5.5-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10167)
 GnuTLS module for the Apache HTTP server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522935 - Review Request: mod_gnutls - GnuTLS module for the Apache HTTP server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522935
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ZendFramework-1.9.3-1.PL1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10183)
 Leading open-source PHP framework
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- new upstream version  - new component: Queue  - fixed dangling symlinks  -
enabled Db-Adapter-Firebird  - last update for F-10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Felix Kaechele  - 1.9.3-1.PL1
- new upstream version
- new component: Queue
- fixed dangling symlinks
- enabled Db-Adapter-Firebird
- last update for F-10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522585 - Upgrade Zend Framework to the latest release
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522585
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 popfile-1.1.1-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10169)
 Automatic Email Classification
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

POPFile is an automatic mail classification tool. Once properly set up  and
trained, it will scan all email as it arrives and classify it  based on your
training. You can give it a simple job, like separating  out junk e-mail, or a
complicated one-like filing mail into a dozen  folders. Think of it as a
personal assistant for your inbox.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #525786 - Review Request: popfile - Automatic Email Classification
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525786
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sblim-sfcc-2.1.0-0.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10224)
 Small Footprint CIM Client Library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Small Footprint CIM Broker(SFCB) is a lightweight CIM daemon that responds to
CIM client requests for system management data and/or performs system
management tasks. sfcb supports most of the standard CIM XML over http/https
protocol.It is highly modular, allowing functionality to be easily added,
removed or customized for different management applications.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 taglib-1.6-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10218)
 Audio Meta-Data Library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The Amarok team is excited to announce the release of Amarok 2.2. After three
and a half months Amarok has made a huge leap forward and gained a lot of new
features and a lot of old features from 1.4 made a return.    See also:
http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/01/amarok-22-sunjammer-released
http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Sep 17 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.6-2
- Include the new NEWS file as %doc.
* Mon Sep 14 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.6-1
- Add patch to fix MP4 test on ppc/ppc64.
- Update to 1.6 final.
* Sun Sep  6 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.6-0.1.rc1
- Update to 1.6rc1 (further bug-fixes and support for AIFF and WAV).
- Build optional support for MP4 and ASF/WMA files.
* Fri Sep  4 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5-8
- Merge another bug-fix from 1.6rc1 (this adds 3 symbols) and
  really add tstring bug-fix:
  * Split Ogg packets larger than 64k into multiple pages. (BUG:171957)
  * Fixed a possible crash in the non-const version of String::operator[]
    and in String::operator+=. (BUG:169389)
* Sun Aug 23 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5-7
- Build API documentation into -doc package.
* Sat Aug 22 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5-6
- Add %check section and conditionally build with tests.
- Update descriptions (and mention the additional file formats).
- Cherry-pick bug-fix patches from 1.6 development (also replaces the
  old taglib-1.5-kde#161721.patch):
  * Fixed crash when saving a Locator APEv2 tag. (BUG:169810)
  * TagLib can now use FLAC padding block. (BUG:107659)
  * Fixed overflow while calculating bitrate of FLAC files with a very
    high bitrate.
  * XiphComment::year() now falls back to YEAR if DATE doesn't exist
    and XiphComment::year() falls back to TRACKNUM if TRACKNUMBER doesn't
    exist. (BUG:144396)
  * Fixed a bug in ByteVectorList::split().
  * Fixed a possible crash in the non-const version of String::operator[]
    and in String::operator+=. (BUG:169389)
  * ID3v2.2 frames are now not incorrectly saved. (BUG:176373)
  * Support for ID3v2.2 PIC frames. (BUG:167786)
  * Improved ID3v2.3 genre parsing. (BUG:188578)
  * Better checking of corrupted ID3v2 APIC data. (BUG:168382)
  * Bitrate calculating using the Xing header now uses floating point
    numbers. (BUG:172556)
  * Added support for PRIV ID3v2 frames.
  * Empty ID3v2 genres are no longer treated as numeric ID3v1 genres.
  * Added support for the POPM (rating/playcount) ID3v2 frame.
  * Fixed crash on handling unsupported ID3v2 frames, e.g. on encrypted
    frames. (BUG:161721)
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.5-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.5-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Dec 12 2008 Rex Dieter  1.5-3
- rebuild for pkgconfig deps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 taglib-extras-1.0.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10218)
 Taglib support for other formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The Amarok team is excited to announce the release of Amarok 2.2. After three
and a half months Amarok has made a huge leap forward and gained a lot of new
features and a lot of old features from 1.4 made a return.    See also:
http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/01/amarok-22-sunjammer-released
http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 21 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.1-1
- taglib-extras-1.0.1
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.0-2
- drop (deprecated/no-op) kde integration
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.0-1
- taglib-extras-1.0.0 (API/ABI bump)
* Wed Sep  9 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.1.7-1
- taglib-extras-0.1.7
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 uget-1.5.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10216)
 Download manager using GTK+ and libcurl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version 1.5.0 is released.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 1.5.0
- 1.5.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct  3 19:13:36 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:13:36 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091003191336.0AE2C10F87E@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    Terminal-0.4.1-1.fc11
    TurboGears2-2.0.3-3.fc11
    afraid-dyndns-1.0-2.fc11
    amarok-2.2.0-2.fc11
    arora-0.10.0-2.fc11
    atlas-3.8.3-9.fc11
    bibtex2html-1.94-1.fc11
    crda-1.1.0_2009.09.08-3.fc11
    cups-1.4.1-2.fc11
    cups-pk-helper-0.0.4-5.fc11
    dbus-cxx-0.5.0-1.fc11
    deltarpm-3.4-17.fc11
    digikam-0.10.0-3.fc11
    etoys-4.0.2319-1.fc11
    exo-0.3.101-5.fc11
    iw-0.9.17-3.fc11
    kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9-0.3.20090930svn.fc11
    kdeedu-4.3.1-4.fc11
    kdesvn-1.4.1-1.fc11
    kdevplatform-0.9.95-0.3.beta5.fc11
    kmymoney2-1.0.1-1.fc11
    kmymoney2-aqbanking-1.0-2.fc11
    krazy2-2.9-4.20090928svn.fc11.1
    libburn-0.7.0-1.fc11
    lock-keys-applet-1.0-18.fc11
    mimetex-1.71-1.fc11
    mkbootdisk-1.5.4-1.fc11
    mod_gnutls-0.5.5-5.fc11
    ngrep-1.45-6.1.fc11
    openvrml-0.18.3-4.fc11
    openwsman-2.2.0-8.fc11
    perl-Nagios-Plugin-Beanstalk-0.04-3.fc11
    php-ZendFramework-1.9.3-1.PL1.fc11
    popfile-1.1.1-3.fc11
    pytc-0.8-1.fc11.1
    python-repoze-tm2-1.0-0.5.a4.fc11
    python-toscawidgets-0.9.8-1.fc11
    python-tw-forms-0.9.8-1.fc11
    roundcubemail-0.3-1.fc11
    sblim-cmpi-network-1.3.8-2.fc11
    sblim-sfcb-1.3.4-9.fc11
    sblim-sfcc-2.1.0-2.fc11
    selinux-policy-3.6.12-85.fc11
    system-config-printer-1.1.13-3.fc11
    taglib-1.6-2.fc11
    taglib-extras-1.0.1-1.fc11
    uget-1.5.0-1.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 Terminal-0.4.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10226)
 X Terminal Emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Lots of fixes. New localization support. Documentation updates. See NEWS for
more detailed info.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Kevin Fenzi  - 0.4.1-1
- Update to 0.4.1
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.4.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Jul 20 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.4.0-1
- Update to 0.4.0
- Use desktop-file-install
* Sun Jul 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi  - 0.2.99.1-1
- Update to 0.2.99.1
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Kevin Fenzi  - 0.2.12-3
- Fix patch fuzz
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 TurboGears2-2.0.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10162)
 Next generation Front-to-back web development megaframework built on Pylons
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of TurboGears2 for Fedora 11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #468230 - Review Request: TurboGears2 - Next generation Front-to-back web development megaframework built on Pylons
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468230
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 afraid-dyndns-1.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10235)
 A dynamic DNS client for the free service afraid.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522935 - Review Request: mod_gnutls - GnuTLS module for the Apache HTTP server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522935
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 amarok-2.2.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10164)
 Media player
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The Amarok team is excited to announce the release of Amarok 2.2. After three
and a half months Amarok has made a huge leap forward and gained a lot of new
features and a lot of old features from 1.4 made a return.    See also:
http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/01/amarok-22-sunjammer-released
http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Rex Dieter  2.2.0-2
- Requires: kdebase-runtime (need kio_trash, kcm_phonon, etc)
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rex Dieter  2.2.0-1
- amarok-2.2.0
* Wed Sep 23 2009 Rex Dieter  2.1.90-2.20090923git
- 20090923git snapshot
* Mon Sep 21 2009 Rex Dieter  2.1.90-1
- amarok-2.1.90 (2.2rc1)
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Rex Dieter  2.1.85-2
- BR: taglib-devel >= 1.6, taglib-extras-devel >= 1.0
* Mon Sep 14 2009 Rex Dieter  2.1.85-1
- amarok-2.1.85 (2.2beta2)
* Wed Sep  2 2009 Rex Dieter  2.1.80-2
- another lyricwiki fix
* Wed Sep  2 2009 Rex Dieter  2.1.80-1
- amarok-2.1.80 (2.2beta1)
- -libs subpkg
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 2.1.1-5
- rebuilt with new openssl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 arora-0.10.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10213)
 A cross platform web browser
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 0.10.0    Changelog  - Add support for AdBlock.  - Add
Password Management / AutoFill.  - Session restoring.    And more, for full
Changelog see http://arorabrowser.blogspot.com/2009/10/arora-0100.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.0-2
- Fedorahome patch rebased
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.0-1
- Update to 0.10.0
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.9.0-2
- add icon/mime scriptlets
- don't own %{_mandir}/man1
- BR: qt4-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 atlas-3.8.3-9.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10202)
 Automatically Tuned Linear Algebra Software
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Handle the defunct atlas-header obsoletes properly
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Deji Akingunola  - 3.8.3-9
- Obsolete the -header subpackage properly.
* Sat Sep 26 2009 Deji Akingunola  - 3.8.3-8
- Use the new arch. default for Pentium PRO (Fedora bug #510498)
- (Re-)Introduce 3dNow subpackage
- Revert the last change, it doesn't solve the problem.
* Tue Aug  4 2009 Deji Akingunola  - 3.8.3-7
- Create a -header subpackage to avoid multilib conflicts (BZ#508565).
* Tue Aug  4 2009 Deji Akingunola  - 3.8.3-6
- Add '-g' to build flag to allow proper genration of debuginfo subpackages (Fedora bug #509813)
- Build for F12
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.8.3-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #521579 - atlas should be rebuild against updated lapack
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521579
  [ 2 ] Bug #510498 - Installed subpackage atlass-sse incompatible with generic P6 architecture
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510498
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bibtex2html-1.94-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10192)
 Collection of tools for translating from BibTeX to HTML
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream 1.94: support for arXiv preprints links.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Guido Grazioli  - 1.94-1
- Upstream 1.94
* Tue Sep 22 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.93-5
- ExcludeArch sparc64 s390 s390x
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.93-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 crda-1.1.0_2009.09.08-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10228)
 Regulatory compliance daemon for 802.11 wireless networking
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Move tools to /sbin for use during boot w/ network /usr...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 John W. Linville  1.1.0_2009.09.08-3
- Move regdb to /lib/crda to facilitate /usr mounted over wireless network
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #523298 - crda fails to set regulatory domain on boot, succeeds on module unload/reload.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523298
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cups-1.4.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10152)
 Common Unix Printing System
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates CUPS to the latest stable release, fixing several bugs in the
process.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.1-2
- Fixed orientation of page labels when printing text in landscape
  mode (bug #520141, STR #3334).
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.1-1
- 1.4.1.
- Don't use cached PPD for raw queue (bug #526405, STR #3356).
* Fri Sep  4 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.0-2
- Fixed the dnssd backend so that it only reports devices once avahi
  resolution has completed.  This makes it report Device IDs
  (bug #520858).
* Fri Aug 28 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.0-1
- 1.4.0.
* Wed Aug 26 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4-0.rc1.20
- Fixed admin.cgi crash when modifying a class (bug #519724,
  STR #3312, patch from Jiri Popelka).
* Wed Aug 26 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4-0.rc1.19
- Prevent infinite loop in cupsDoIORequest when processing HTTP
  errors (bug #518065, bug #519663, STR #3311).
- Fixed document-format-supported attribute when
  application/octet-stream is enabled (bug #516507, STR #3308, patch
  from Jiri Popelka).
- Fixed buggy JobKillDelay handling fix (STR #3292).
- Prevent infinite loop in ppdc (STR #3293).
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4-0.rc1.17
- Removed 3-distribution symlink (bug #514244).
* Tue Aug 18 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4-0.rc1.16
- Fixed JobKillDelay handling for cancelled jobs (bug #518026,
  STR #3292).
- Use 'exec' to invoke ghostscript in the pstoraster filter.  This
  allows the SIGTERM signal to reach the correct process, as well as
  conserving memory (part of bug #518026).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #516507 - document-format '' advertised when filter not present
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516507
  [ 2 ] Bug #518065 - IPP-Get-Printer-Attributes request never finishes
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518065
  [ 3 ] Bug #519663 - 'lpstat -h myfqdn -s' never finishes
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519663
  [ 4 ] Bug #526405 - Can't assign RAW Queue driver to printer
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526405
  [ 5 ] Bug #526891 - page-label misplaced by pstops filter in landscape
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526891
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================================================================================
 cups-pk-helper-0.0.4-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10230)
 A helper that makes system-config-printer use PolicyKit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Marek Kasik  - 0.0.4-5
- Fix adding of printers without specification of device-uri.
- Patch by Tim Waugh.
- Resolves: #526442
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Marek Kasik  - 0.0.4-4
- Fix policies to check when editing a job.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526442 - add-printer method fails when using ppd-name and not device-uri
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526442
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dbus-cxx-0.5.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10204)
 C++ bindings for the DBus library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This release has some new features, some bug fixes and some added support for
older versions of GCC and dbus, and new Ubuntu builds on Launchpad.    One of
the new features is preliminary support for arrays of fixed types. An   example
can be found in the signal examples directory and the two example  programs are
name signal_emitter_array and signal_receiver_array.    Many of the template
functions have been changed and are now generated by  M4 to support older
versions of GCC that don't recognize default template  function parameters.
Checks have been added and conditional code added to allow building  against
dbus 1.1 (and possibly dbus 1.0; only dbus 1.1 was tested). This  change,
combined with the GCC support changes, mean that dbus-cxx can  now be compiled
on RHEL 5. Builds will be available in Fedora shortly  for the EPEL 5 (RHEL 5,
CentOS 5) family.    Finally, there are numerous minor bug cleanups which should
significantly  reduce the amount of compile warnings generated.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr  - 0.5.0-1
- New release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #509086 - noarch documentation subpackage
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509086
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 deltarpm-3.4-17.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10237)
 Create deltas between rpms
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

deltarpm prior to the current build ships with a bundled copy of zlib.  This
version of zlib has a known vulnerability with CVE identifier: CAN-2005-1849
This build of deltarpm patches the program to use the system zlib (which was
fixed when the vulnerability was first discovered) instead of the bundled copy.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Toshio Kuratomi  - 3.4-17
- Work around cvs tag problem
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Toshio Kuratomi  - 3.4-16
- Build against the system zlib, not the bundled library.  This remedies the
  fact that the included zlib is affected by CAN-2005-1849.
- Fix cfile_detect_rsync() to detect rsync even if we don't have a zlib capable
  of making rsync-friendly compressed files.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526432 - deltarpm contains an own, modified copy of zlib
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526432
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 digikam-0.10.0-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-9935)
 A digital camera accessing & photo management application
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.10.0-3
- fix marble deps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #520954 - kdeedu embeds python-mwclient and it's broken
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520954
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 etoys-4.0.2319-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10232)
 A media-rich model, game, and simulation construction kit and authoring tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Gavin Romig-Koch  - 4.0.2319-1
- lastest upstream release 4.0.2319
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 exo-0.3.101-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10234)
 Application library for the Xfce desktop environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix for a multilib issue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Kevin Fenzi  - 0.3.101-5
- Use touch -r trick to fix multilib issue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 iw-0.9.17-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10168)
 A nl80211 based wireless configuration tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Move tools to /sbin for use during boot w/ network /usr...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 John W. Linville  0.9.17-3
- Install in /sbin
* Fri Sep  4 2009 John W. Linville  0.9.17-2
- Revert "separate commands into sections", section type conflicts on ppc64
* Fri Sep  4 2009 John W. Linville  0.9.17-1
- Update to 0.9.17
* Mon Aug 17 2009 Adel Gadllah  0.9.16-1
- Update to 0.9.16
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.9.15-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #523298 - crda fails to set regulatory domain on boot, succeeds on module unload/reload.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523298
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9-0.3.20090930svn.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10209)
 NetworkManager KDE 4 integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

A new snapshot of the network manager interface to KDE. This changes from using
a plasmoid to using a kded service and a system tray applet so that if plasma
crashes, network connectivity is kept. It also fixes bugs with network
authentications, please test and report feedback either in bodhi or on #fedora-
kde
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Ben Boeckel  1:0.9-0.3.20090930svn
- New snapshot
* Mon Sep 21 2009 Ben Boeckel  1:0.9-0.2.20090919svn
- Add back missing Requires:
* Mon Sep 21 2009 Ben Boeckel  1:0.9-0.1.20090919svn
- Version seems to be .9 now
- Fix trailing spaces
- New snapshot
* Tue Sep 15 2009 Rex Dieter  1:0.8-0.22.20090815svn
- Epoch: 1
* Fri Aug 28 2009 Rex Dieter  0.8-0.21.20090815svn
- use knetworkmanager pkg names
- quasi-artificially inflate version to 0.8 (for now), to simplify upgrade path
  for knetworkmanager-0.7 (from F-10)
- nuke -devel pkg
- drop references to short-lived kde-plasma-networkmanager
* Sat Aug 15 2009 Rex Dieter  0.1-0.20.20090815svn
- New snapshot
- optimize scriptlets
- -libs subpkg, multilib-friendly
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Ben Boeckel  0.1-0.19.20090726svn
- Add BR on kdelibs-experimental-devel
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Ben Boeckel  0.1-0.18.20090726svn
- New snapshot
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.1-0.17.20090602svn
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Jun  9 2009 Rex Dieter  0.1-0.16.20090602svn
- Requires: NetworkManager
* Wed Jun  3 2009 Ben Boeckel  0.1-0.15.20090602svn
- Remove patch and use wildcards instead
* Wed Jun  3 2009 Ben Boeckel  0.1-0.14.20090602svn
- New snapshot (revision 976742 committed 2009-06-02 13:47 UTC)
* Thu May 21 2009 Kevin Kofler  0.1-0.13.20090519svn
- Give the internal libs sonames independent of the KDE version (fix F12 build)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #521683 - knetworkmanager 0.8 (testing) not for hidden WPA2-networks
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521683
  [ 2 ] Bug #519530 - Few bugs with kde-plasma-networkmanagent
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519530
  [ 3 ] Bug #505732 - kde-plasma-networkmanagement-090519 can't connect to hidden SSID-networks
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505732
  [ 4 ] Bug #494262 - Network Manager Widget (kde-plasma-networkmanagement) cannot connect to wireless networks with WPA security
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494262
  [ 5 ] Bug #498176 - plasma-networkmanager crashes when connected to wire
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498176
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.3.1-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-9935)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-4
- kdeedu-marble multilib fixes (rebuild for digikam botch)
* Tue Sep 22 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- Requires: python-mwclient (#520954)
* Sun Sep 20 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-2
- kdeedu embeds python-mwclient and it's broken (#520954)
- Requires: kross-python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #520954 - kdeedu embeds python-mwclient and it's broken
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520954
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesvn-1.4.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10236)
 A subversion client for KDE4 with KIO integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 1.4.1    Changelog  - kdesvnaskpass checks if last given
password were wrong and ignores stored pw in that case  - fixed a crasher while
update to new added items
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526665 - kdesvn-1.4.1 is available
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526665
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdevplatform-0.9.95-0.3.beta5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10231)
 Libraries for use by KDE development tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #504050 - Review Request: kdevplatform - Libraries for use by KDE development tools
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504050
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kmymoney2-1.0.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10215)
 Personal finance
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This new stable release has a lot of new features and a refreshed user
interface.  Also now available in fedora is the kmymoney2-aqbanking plugin (for
online banking).    See also detailed release notes,
http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/release-1.0.0.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Sep  6 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.1-1
- kmymoney2-1.0.1
* Wed Aug 19 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.0-1
- kmymoney2-1.0.0
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.9.3-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Jul 17 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.9.3-3
- validate .desktop file
- -libs unconditional
- use %_isa where appropriate
- optimize scriptlets
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522657 - Review Request: kmymoney2-aqbanking - Online banking plugin for KMyMoney
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522657
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kmymoney2-aqbanking-1.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10215)
 Online banking plugin for KMyMoney
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This new stable release has a lot of new features and a refreshed user
interface.  Also now available in fedora is the kmymoney2-aqbanking plugin (for
online banking).    See also detailed release notes,
http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/release-1.0.0.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522657 - Review Request: kmymoney2-aqbanking - Online banking plugin for KMyMoney
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522657
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 krazy2-2.9-4.20090928svn.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-10231)
 Krazy is a tool for checking code against the KDE coding guidelines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Ben Boeckel  2.9-4.20090928svn.1
- Wait for newRepo task
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Ben Boeckel  2.9-4.20090928svn
- Update snapshot
- krazy2ebn is gone
- Use kdevplatform by default now
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.9-3.20090719svn
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #504050 - Review Request: kdevplatform - Libraries for use by KDE development tools
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504050
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libburn-0.7.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10195)
 Library for reading, mastering and writing optical discs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes an important cdrskin regression
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Denis Leroy  - 0.7.0-1
- Update to upstream 0.7.0
- Fixed binary installation
- Removed rpath
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #475732 - cdrskin script has buildroot path artefacts
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475732
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lock-keys-applet-1.0-18.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10200)
 A GNOME panel applet that shows the status of the lock keys
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes a segmentation fault when accessing the applet preferences
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Jorge Torres  - 1.0-18
- Fix segmentation fault
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.0-17
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mimetex-1.71-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10170)
 Easily embed LaTeX math in web pages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Fixes a buffer-overflow as detailed in #511049.  - Updates to 1.7.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Jorge Torres  - 1.71-1
- Update to 1.71
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.60-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #511049 - CVE-2009-1382 CVE-2009-2459 mimeTeX: various flaws
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511049
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mkbootdisk-1.5.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10211)
 Creates a boot floppy disk for booting a system.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1.5.4-1
- syslinux image changed (#506181)
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.5.3-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #506181 - mkbootdisk can't generate isos
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506181
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mod_gnutls-0.5.5-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10158)
 GnuTLS module for the Apache HTTP server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522935 - Review Request: mod_gnutls - GnuTLS module for the Apache HTTP server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522935
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ngrep-1.45-6.1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10187)
 Network layer grep tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Oliver Falk  1.45-6.1
- Bump-n-build for new libpcap
- Add --with-pcap-includes to 
  CFLAGS="${CFLAGS:--O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32}" ; export CFLAGS ; 
  CXXFLAGS="${CXXFLAGS:--O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32}" ; export CXXFLAGS ; 
  FFLAGS="${FFLAGS:--O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -I/usr/lib/gfortran/modules}" ; export FFLAGS ; 
  ./configure --build=ppc-redhat-linux-gnu --host=ppc-redhat-linux-gnu \
	--target=ppc-redhat-linux-gnu \
	--program-prefix= \
	--prefix=/usr \
	--exec-prefix=/usr \
	--bindir=/usr/bin \
	--sbindir=/usr/sbin \
	--sysconfdir=/etc \
	--datadir=/usr/share \
	--includedir=/usr/include \
	--libdir=/usr/lib \
	--libexecdir=/usr/libexec \
	--localstatedir=/var \
	--sharedstatedir=/var/lib \
	--mandir=/usr/share/man \
	--infodir=/usr/share/info (Thanks Miroslav!)
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Patrick "Jima" Laughton  1.45-6
- Bump-n-build for new libpcap
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openvrml-0.18.3-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10238)
 VRML/X3D runtime library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-4
- Separate the Java and JavaScript scripting backends into subpackages.
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-3
- Reqire mesa-libGLU-devel since there is no arch-specific libGLU-devel.
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-2
- Arch-independent Requires are not safe for multilib systems when a
  specific architecture is needed.
* Thu Aug 13 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-1
- Updated to 0.18.3.
* Thu Jul 23 2009 Braden McDaniel  
- Made dependencies on gecko-libs and java arch-specific.
- Removed unnecessary (redundant) dependencies on libGLU-devel and
  libXmu-devel.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openwsman-2.2.0-8.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10196)
 Web Services Management libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed hard coded paths in 2.2.0-7's spec file
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.2.0-8
- Removed the past hard coding of ruby_libdir
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.2.0-7
- pywsman.py gets installed in python_sitelib - chaning back
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.2.0-6
- changing python_sitelib to python_sitearch
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.2.0-5
- making the python_sitelib and ruby_sitearch global
- test build
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.2.0-4
- *.rb files are hard coded to be installed in /usr/lib in 32/64-bit
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.2.0-3
- increased the release for re-tagging.
- one more try
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.2.0-2
- increased the release for re-tagging.
* Wed Sep 23 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.2.0-1
- Added the new 2.2.0 sources.
- Changed the release and version numbers.
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 2.1.0-4
- rebuilt with new openssl
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.1.0-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Nagios-Plugin-Beanstalk-0.04-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10208)
 Nagios plugin to observe Beanstalkd queue server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #521851 - Review Request: perl-Nagios-Plugin-Beanstalk - Nagios plugin to observe Beanstalkd queue server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521851
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ZendFramework-1.9.3-1.PL1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10239)
 Leading open-source PHP framework
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- new upstream version  - new component: Queue  - fixed dangling symlinks  -
enabled Db-Adapter-Firebird  - last update for F-10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Felix Kaechele  - 1.9.3-1.PL1
- new upstream version
- new component: Queue
- fixed dangling symlinks
- enabled Db-Adapter-Firebird
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522585 - Upgrade Zend Framework to the latest release
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522585
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 popfile-1.1.1-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10171)
 Automatic Email Classification
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

POPFile is an automatic mail classification tool. Once properly set up  and
trained, it will scan all email as it arrives and classify it  based on your
training. You can give it a simple job, like separating  out junk e-mail, or a
complicated one-like filing mail into a dozen  folders. Think of it as a
personal assistant for your inbox.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #525786 - Review Request: popfile - Automatic Email Classification
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525786
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pytc-0.8-1.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-10222)
 Tokyo Cabinet Python bindings
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Rebuild for tokyocabinet update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Deji Akingunola  - 0.8-1
- Rebuild for updated tokyocabinet
* Mon May 25 2009 Silas Sewell  - 0.8-1
- Update to 0.8
* Sun Apr 12 2009 Silas Sewell  - 0.7-3
- Normalize spec
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================================================================================
 python-repoze-tm2-1.0-0.5.a4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10223)
 Zope-like transaction manager via WSGI middleware
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to the latest alpha release, required for TurboGears2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.0-0.5.a4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Jun  1 2009 Luke Macken  - 1.0-0.4.a4
- Update to 1.0a4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-toscawidgets-0.9.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10203)
 Toolkit to help create widgets for WSGI web apps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Latest version of ToscaWidgets.  http://groups.google.com/group/toscawidgets-
discuss/browse_thread/thread/54afbda6625214f5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.8-1
- 0.9.8 release
- Remove js patch which is now upstream
* Thu Aug 27 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.8-0.4.dev20090825
- Apply a patch from http://toscawidgets.org/trac/tw/ticket/30
  to fix problems with encoding javascript methods.
* Tue Aug 25 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.8-0.3.dev20090825
- Update to the latest mercurial snapshot, which fixes the python 2.4
  incompatibilites.
* Mon Aug 24 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.8-0.2.dev20090822
- Add a couple of patches to get things working on Python2.4
* Sat Aug 22 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.8-0.1.dev20090822
- Update to a 0.9.8 development snapshot
* Wed Aug 12 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.7.2-1
- 0.9.7.2
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.9.7.1-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Jun 27 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.7.1-1
- 0.9.7.1
- s/define/global/
* Thu Jun  4 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.6-1
- Update to 0.9.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-tw-forms-0.9.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10179)
 Web Widgets for building and validating forms in ToscaWidgets
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Latest version of python-tw-forms.  http://groups.google.com/group/toscawidgets-
discuss/browse_thread/thread/54afbda6625214f5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.8-1
- 0.9.8
* Wed Aug 12 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.7.2-1
- 0.9.7.2
* Wed Jun 10 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.6-2
- Add a versioned ToscaWidgets requirement
* Thu Jun  4 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.6-1
- Update to 0.9.6
* Mon Jun  1 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.3-1
- Update to 0.9.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 roundcubemail-0.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10205)
 Round Cube Webmail is a browser-based multilingual IMAP client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 23 2009 Jon Ciesla  = 0.3-1
- New upstream.
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.2.2-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #515505 - Using da_DK locale causes Content Encoding Error in browser
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=515505
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sblim-cmpi-network-1.3.8-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10191)
 SBLIM Network Instrumentation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Standards Based Linux Instrumentation Network Providers.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sblim-sfcb-1.3.4-9.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10193)
 Small Footprint CIM Broker
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Added two patches. One to handle CHARS and string differently and the other to
delete thread information to prevent crashes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sblim-sfcc-2.1.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10188)
 Small Footprint CIM Client Library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

added a patch to prevent crash during local connect due to uninitialized
structures.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.1.0-2
- Added a patch to prevent crash because of uninitialized structrues.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 selinux-policy-3.6.12-85.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10190)
 SELinux policy configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- dovecot needs setcap/getcap   - Fix up sssd policy  - Allow sshd to create
.ssh directory and content
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Miroslav Grepl  3.6.12-85
- dovecot needs setcap/getcap
- Fix up sssd policy
* Tue Sep 22 2009 Miroslav Grepl  3.6.12-84
- Allow sshd to create .ssh directory and content
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 system-config-printer-1.1.13-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-8108)
 A printer administration tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes several bugs.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.13-3
- Determine make/model for network printers (bug #524321).
- Auto-select the correct driver entry for raw queues.
- Avoid traceback in PhysicalDevice.py.
- Let Return key activate the Find button for Find Network Printer.
* Tue Sep 22 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.13-2
- Fixed traceback when cancelling change-driver dialog.
- Fixed data button state.
- Fixed missing import in probe_printer module.
- Fixed race when fetching device list (bug #521110).
* Mon Sep 14 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.13-1
- 1.1.13:
  - Translation updates (bug #522451).
* Fri Sep  4 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.12-8
- Further speed improvement when fetching devices.
* Thu Sep  3 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.12-7
- Speed improvement when fetching devices.
- Allow raw devices to be changed.
* Fri Aug 28 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.12-6
- Fixed PPD/IPP string translation.
- Fixed proxy authentication.
* Wed Aug 26 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.12-4
- Handle icon load failure gracefully.
- Fixed statereason icon names.
* Wed Aug 26 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.12-3
- Fixed traceback in on_tvNPDeviceURIs_cursor_changed (bug #519367).
* Tue Aug 25 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.12-1
- 1.1.12:
  - Troubleshooting fix.
  - Fixed applet traceback when printing test page.
  - Removed completed job notifications (trac #181).
  - Show printer status in printer icons (bug #518020).
  - Use paused icon when printer state reason is 'paused'.
  - Driver preference order fixes.
  - Job status icon and state reason display in jobs list
    (bug #518070).
  - Fixed overactive job creation times update timer.
  - Use preferred D-Bus object path for AuthenticationAgent
    (bug #518427).
  - Fixed disabling a printer when PolicyKit call fails.
  - Set appropriate status icon tooltip when configuration printer
    (bug #518007).
  - Use separate thread for verifying IPP queue (bug #518065).
  - Use newer tooltip API to avoid deprecation warnings.
  - Compare MFG/MDL case-insensitively in udev rule.
  - Support for cups-pk-helper's DevicesGet method.
  - Don't attempt to use PolicyKit if running as root.
  - Support for localized marker names (trac #183).
  - Other small fixes.
* Mon Aug 10 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.11-2
- Added patch for cupspk DevicesGet method call.
* Fri Aug  7 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.11-1
- 1.1.11:
  - Several udev-configure-printer fixes.
  - Use case-insensitive PPD matching.
  - Better URI validity testing.
  - Another stale printer status icon fix.
  - Notice when jobs stop due to backend errors.
  - Warn about job history when renaming printers.
  - Small UI improvements.
* Tue Jul 28 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.10-1
- Dropped no-longer-used python-sexy dependency.
- 1.1.10:
  - Now uses gnome-packagekit utility to install packages
    instead of the D-Bus API.
  - Fixed detection of stopped jobs with CUPS 1.4.
  - Fixed tracebacks when adding a new printer and when receiving
    IPP notifications.
  - Fixed 'location' field for printers added on remote CUPS servers.
  - Fixed handling of incorrect authentication.
  - Some UI and troubleshooter fixes have been made.
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.8-7
- Removed gnome-packagekit dependency.  The presence of
  gpk-install-package-name is detected at run-time, and the program
  acts accordingly.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #497249 - system-config-printer troubleshooter doesn't work if you are root already
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497249
  [ 2 ] Bug #509588 - Passwords in printer URIs are shown to normal users.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509588
  [ 3 ] Bug #511407 - s-c-printer needs a print queue to be shared locally for debugging
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511407
  [ 4 ] Bug #516713 - Should use DevicesGet PolicyKit method from cups-pk-helper
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516713
  [ 5 ] Bug #518007 - new printer - delayed bubble
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518007
  [ 6 ] Bug #518020 - Indicate printer status in the icons
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518020
  [ 7 ] Bug #518070 - status indication in the job list and elsewhere
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518070
  [ 8 ] Bug #518427 - Bad 'Cancel' behaviour
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518427
  [ 9 ] Bug #519367 - [abrt] crash detected in system-config-printer-1.1.11-6.fc12
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519367
  [ 10 ] Bug #522132 - system-config-printer hangs with high cpu utilization
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522132
  [ 11 ] Bug #522139 - Does not list discovered printers when run as non-root user
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522139
  [ 12 ] Bug #521110 - Does not prompt for root password when fetching devices
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521110
  [ 13 ] Bug #524321 - system-config-printer no longer identifies printers detected via HP JetDirect
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524321
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 taglib-1.6-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10164)
 Audio Meta-Data Library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The Amarok team is excited to announce the release of Amarok 2.2. After three
and a half months Amarok has made a huge leap forward and gained a lot of new
features and a lot of old features from 1.4 made a return.    See also:
http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/01/amarok-22-sunjammer-released
http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Sep 17 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.6-2
- Include the new NEWS file as %doc.
* Mon Sep 14 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.6-1
- Add patch to fix MP4 test on ppc/ppc64.
- Update to 1.6 final.
* Sun Sep  6 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.6-0.1.rc1
- Update to 1.6rc1 (further bug-fixes and support for AIFF and WAV).
- Build optional support for MP4 and ASF/WMA files.
* Fri Sep  4 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5-8
- Merge another bug-fix from 1.6rc1 (this adds 3 symbols) and
  really add tstring bug-fix:
  * Split Ogg packets larger than 64k into multiple pages. (BUG:171957)
  * Fixed a possible crash in the non-const version of String::operator[]
    and in String::operator+=. (BUG:169389)
* Sun Aug 23 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5-7
- Build API documentation into -doc package.
* Sat Aug 22 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5-6
- Add %check section and conditionally build with tests.
- Update descriptions (and mention the additional file formats).
- Cherry-pick bug-fix patches from 1.6 development (also replaces the
  old taglib-1.5-kde#161721.patch):
  * Fixed crash when saving a Locator APEv2 tag. (BUG:169810)
  * TagLib can now use FLAC padding block. (BUG:107659)
  * Fixed overflow while calculating bitrate of FLAC files with a very
    high bitrate.
  * XiphComment::year() now falls back to YEAR if DATE doesn't exist
    and XiphComment::year() falls back to TRACKNUM if TRACKNUMBER doesn't
    exist. (BUG:144396)
  * Fixed a bug in ByteVectorList::split().
  * Fixed a possible crash in the non-const version of String::operator[]
    and in String::operator+=. (BUG:169389)
  * ID3v2.2 frames are now not incorrectly saved. (BUG:176373)
  * Support for ID3v2.2 PIC frames. (BUG:167786)
  * Improved ID3v2.3 genre parsing. (BUG:188578)
  * Better checking of corrupted ID3v2 APIC data. (BUG:168382)
  * Bitrate calculating using the Xing header now uses floating point
    numbers. (BUG:172556)
  * Added support for PRIV ID3v2 frames.
  * Empty ID3v2 genres are no longer treated as numeric ID3v1 genres.
  * Added support for the POPM (rating/playcount) ID3v2 frame.
  * Fixed crash on handling unsupported ID3v2 frames, e.g. on encrypted
    frames. (BUG:161721)
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.5-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 taglib-extras-1.0.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10164)
 Taglib support for other formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The Amarok team is excited to announce the release of Amarok 2.2. After three
and a half months Amarok has made a huge leap forward and gained a lot of new
features and a lot of old features from 1.4 made a return.    See also:
http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/01/amarok-22-sunjammer-released
http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 21 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.1-1
- taglib-extras-1.0.1
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.0-2
- drop (deprecated/no-op) kde integration
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.0-1
- taglib-extras-1.0.0 (API/ABI bump)
* Wed Sep  9 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.1.7-1
- taglib-extras-0.1.7
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 uget-1.5.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10229)
 Download manager using GTK+ and libcurl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version 1.5.0 is released.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 1.5.0
- 1.5.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From mschwendt at gmail.com  Sat Oct  3 21:40:56 2009
From: mschwendt at gmail.com (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:40:56 -0000
Subject: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 updates-testing - 2009-10-03
Message-ID: <20091003214056.4376.24942@faldor.intranet>

======================================================================
The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
======================================================================

Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name):

    asterisk
    deltarpm
    fedora-business-cards
    libsvm
    oorexx
    openmpi
    R-RScaLAPACK




======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-i386:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.i586  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    drpmsync-3.4-16.fc11.i586  requires  deltarpm = 0:3.4-16.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.i586  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    drpmsync-3.4-16.fc11.ppc  requires  deltarpm = 0:3.4-16.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc64:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc64  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    drpmsync-3.4-16.fc11.ppc64  requires  deltarpm = 0:3.4-16.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-x86_64:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.x86_64  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    drpmsync-3.4-16.fc11.x86_64  requires  deltarpm = 0:3.4-16.fc11
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexx.so.3
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexxapi.so.3
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-i386:

    fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch  requires  inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc:

    fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch  requires  inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc64:

    fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch  requires  inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-x86_64:

    fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch  requires  inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn



From cra at WPI.EDU  Sun Oct  4 19:47:04 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:47:04 -0400
Subject: invisible icons in panel
Message-ID: <20091004194704.GA27695@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

I tested desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso and the icons for 
gnome-volume-control-applet, nm-applet, gnome-power-manger, and 
bluetooth are invisible in the panel.  You can mouse over the area 
where they should be and see their tooltips, click on them and use 
them, but they icons themselves are missing/invisible.



From kdekorte at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 20:06:09 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:06:09 -0600
Subject: invisible icons in panel
In-Reply-To: <20091004194704.GA27695@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20091004194704.GA27695@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <4AC90031.2040004@gmail.com>

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> I tested desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso and the icons for 
> gnome-volume-control-applet, nm-applet, gnome-power-manger, and 
> bluetooth are invisible in the panel.  You can mouse over the area 
> where they should be and see their tooltips, click on them and use 
> them, but they icons themselves are missing/invisible.
> 

I saw that as well, but the current rawhide doesn't seem to have that issue.

Kevin

- -- 
Get my public GnuPG key from
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From cra at WPI.EDU  Sun Oct  4 20:57:23 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:57:23 -0400
Subject: invisible icons in panel
In-Reply-To: <4AC90031.2040004@gmail.com>
References: <20091004194704.GA27695@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<4AC90031.2040004@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091004205723.GA28455@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 02:06:09PM -0600, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
> On 10/04/09 13:47, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > I tested desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso and the icons for 
> > gnome-volume-control-applet, nm-applet, gnome-power-manger, and 
> > bluetooth are invisible in the panel.  You can mouse over the area 
> > where they should be and see their tooltips, click on them and use 
> > them, but they icons themselves are missing/invisible.
> > 
> 
> I saw that as well, but the current rawhide doesn't seem to have that issue.

I believe I have current rawhide. "yum update" does nothing on this 
live CD.

[root at localhost ~]# grep enabled=1 /etc/yum.repos.d/*
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo:enabled=1
[root at localhost ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Update Process
No Packages marked for Update

I thought the gtk2-engines update caused this, so I downgraded to 
gtk2-engines-2.18.3-1.fc12.x86_64 and re-logged in and the problem 
disappeared.  Then I re-upgraded to gtk2-engines-2.18.4-1.fc12.x86_64, 
and the problem didn't come back.

Now I just rebooted the LiveCD, and the problem didn't happen the 
second time... very interesting considering that this Live image 
dosen't maintain state between boots...



From drago01 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 21:01:32 2009
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:01:32 +0200
Subject: invisible icons in panel
In-Reply-To: <20091004205723.GA28455@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20091004194704.GA27695@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<4AC90031.2040004@gmail.com>
	<20091004205723.GA28455@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: 

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 02:06:09PM -0600, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
>> On 10/04/09 13:47, Chuck Anderson wrote:
>> > I tested desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso and the icons for
>> > gnome-volume-control-applet, nm-applet, gnome-power-manger, and
>> > bluetooth are invisible in the panel. ?You can mouse over the area
>> > where they should be and see their tooltips, click on them and use
>> > them, but they icons themselves are missing/invisible.
>> >
>>
>> I saw that as well, but the current rawhide doesn't seem to have that issue.
>
> I believe I have current rawhide. "yum update" does nothing on this
> live CD.
>
> [root at localhost ~]# grep enabled=1 /etc/yum.repos.d/*
> /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo:enabled=1
> [root at localhost ~]# yum update
> Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Update Process
> No Packages marked for Update
>
> I thought the gtk2-engines update caused this, so I downgraded to
> gtk2-engines-2.18.3-1.fc12.x86_64 and re-logged in and the problem
> disappeared. ?Then I re-upgraded to gtk2-engines-2.18.4-1.fc12.x86_64,
> and the problem didn't come back.
>
> Now I just rebooted the LiveCD, and the problem didn't happen the
> second time... very interesting considering that this Live image
> dosen't maintain state between boots...

Its gtk2 itself, not gtk2-engines.



From cra at WPI.EDU  Sun Oct  4 21:16:04 2009
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:16:04 -0400
Subject: invisible icons in panel
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20091004194704.GA27695@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<4AC90031.2040004@gmail.com>
	<20091004205723.GA28455@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	
Message-ID: <20091004211604.GB28455@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 11:01:32PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
> > Now I just rebooted the LiveCD, and the problem didn't happen the
> > second time... very interesting considering that this Live image
> > dosen't maintain state between boots...
> 
> Its gtk2 itself, not gtk2-engines.

Ok, but it is a heisenbug [1].

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unusual_software_bug



From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 21:44:22 2009
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:44:22 +0200
Subject: invisible icons in panel
In-Reply-To: <20091004194704.GA27695@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20091004194704.GA27695@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <1254692662.3083.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2009-10-04 at 15:47 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> I tested desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso and the icons for 
> gnome-volume-control-applet, nm-applet, gnome-power-manger, and 
> bluetooth are invisible in the panel.  You can mouse over the area 
> where they should be and see their tooltips, click on them and use 
> them, but they icons themselves are missing/invisible.
> 
I haven't seen this on live (20090930.16), but after installing from it
and logging in (btw. firstboot's X crashes, so I had to create the user
manually from command line) it's always this way after logging in.
Moving the notification area applet to and fro between the panels make
this problem disappear (until next logging in ;-). I am on fully updated
rawhide btw.

Martin
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From mclasen at redhat.com  Sun Oct  4 22:17:30 2009
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:17:30 -0400
Subject: invisible icons in panel
In-Reply-To: <20091004194704.GA27695@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20091004194704.GA27695@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <1254694650.2852.4.camel@planemask>

On Sun, 2009-10-04 at 15:47 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> I tested desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso and the icons for 
> gnome-volume-control-applet, nm-applet, gnome-power-manger, and 
> bluetooth are invisible in the panel.  You can mouse over the area 
> where they should be and see their tooltips, click on them and use 
> them, but they icons themselves are missing/invisible.
> 

This is
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510249




From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Mon Oct  5 00:22:25 2009
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:52:25 +0530
Subject: login manager in F12 and updates
Message-ID: <78323d480910041722s7727c8c9i73060c020f436b2f@mail.gmail.com>

After the last few updates, the login manager seems to default to
gnome, even though kde has been set as the default session. F12
x86-64.  Check this.

Best

A. Mani

-- 
A. Mani
ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://www.logicamani.co.cc



From campbecg at cox.net  Mon Oct  5 03:43:11 2009
From: campbecg at cox.net (Chris Campbell)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:43:11 -0400
Subject: Introduction
Message-ID: <4AC96B4F.6000401@cox.net>

Team,
As I have volunteered my time as a potential member of the Fedora 
BugZappers team, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Chris 
Campbell. I am a Senior UNIX Systems Administrator for a US Company. I 
have about 10 years of experience with Windows software, from NT up 
through 2008. I have been a UNIX admin for the last 7 years. I am 
responsible for several Sun Solaris systems and we are currently 
transitioning to RedHat and Fedora.

I have used FreeBSD, RedHat, Fedora, Ubuntu and Solaris.

-- 
Christopher G. Campbell
campbecg cox net

IRC: Tech33 AT irc.freenode.net and us.undernet.org
ICQ: 1603579



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct  5 07:58:58 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:58:58 -0700
Subject: 2009-10-05 - 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA meeting agenda
Message-ID: <1254729538.2291.4.camel@adam.local.net>

It's that time again - everyone's favorite time on a Monday, the QA
meeting!

When? 2009-10-05!
When, more specifically? 16:00 UTC!
Where? #fedora-meeting on Freenode IRC, of course!

The Agenda:

1. Previous meeting follow-up:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090928

* particularly the anaconda-related development issues from 20090921

2. AutoQA update

3. Upcoming events: final sprint for Beta
	Go/no-go - 2009-10-05 (after the QA meeting)
	Beta readiness meeting - 2009-10-07

4. Open floor - your topic here!

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From hughsient at gmail.com  Mon Oct  5 10:44:34 2009
From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:44:34 +0100
Subject: Please test new PackageKit...
Message-ID: <15e53e180910050344g2db21f93wc0f2bb96d833bc15@mail.gmail.com>

Hello friendly testers,

When you have a few minutes spare, could you please test
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1727776 -- I intend
to tag this build for F12 in the next couple of days. It fixes the
following problems:

* #526600, Fix double free in pk-gstreamer-install which causes a crash.
* #527044, Exit pk-command-not-found with 127 when we have not run a program.
* Fix crash in notification daemon under some conditions due to
non-resident GTK module
* Don't explicitly download the file lists when using pk-command-not-found

If you could please test the package, and report any regressions you
notice compared to the PackageKit-debug-install-0.5.3-0.1.20090928git
package which is already in rawhide.

Thanks,

Richard.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Mon Oct  5 10:44:31 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:44:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: is Fedora 12 alpha for x86_64 burnable and usable?
Message-ID: 


  i downloaded Fedora-12-Alpha-x86_64-DVD.iso, it seems to be fine,
"isovfy" looks good, the sha256sum checksum matches, it's "-o loop"
mountable, but i've tried twice to use k3b to burn it to DVD and the
result is a DVD that *visually* looks like it's had something burned
to it but two different machines claim that the DVD is blank and
refuse to mount it.

  i've never had this difficulty before with downloading and burning
fedora DVDs.  thoughts?

rday

p.s.  not surprisingly, i can't boot from a "burned" DVD since it
simply appears blank.

p.p.s.  for the first time, i'm using a different brand of DVD --
imation DVD+R.  i hesitate to blame the media but ... who knows?
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Mon Oct  5 11:18:34 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:18:34 -0400
Subject: Fresh Install From Nightly Compose desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso
Message-ID: <4AC9D60A.3010604@speakeasy.net>

I did a fresh install from the desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso nightly 
compose. The installer needs quite a lot more work. I couldn't get this 
to work from a USB script, because I got a Grub error 17. I think there 
is some special trick to get around this, but I shouldn't need to know 
it. I decided to burn the iso to a CD, boot to the CD, and then click 
the "Install to Hard Drive" icon on the resulting desktop.

I was installing this to replace an earlier and encrypted Fedora 12 
Alpha system. I checked the boxes to "replace existing Linux system" and 
"Review and Modify partitioning". The hard drive partitioning screens 
didn't show LVM Volume Groups as I expected. Instead it just showed 
/dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 with no swap partition. sda1 wasn't listed as 
/boot for the mount point and the filesystem type was grayed out to "Not 
applicable". I modified this to show the mount point and an ext4 
filesystem. I deleted and recreated sda2 manually, as '/', and added a 
swap partition manually.

I specified encryption for the system and even though I was prompted for 
an encryption passphrase, I was never prompted for it after booting the 
system. Does anyone know how I can encrypt my hard drive after 
installing a system?

When the installation procedure finished, I discovered that firstboot 
starts, but it does not show the "Next" button if your system is a 
laptop and you have an external monitor connected to the laptop's vga 
connector. That is really annoying. The navigation bar on the left side 
of the firstboot screen ought to have clickable links.

After some stumbling around, I discovered that I could boot to runlevel 
3 and do the "authentication setup" in text mode, then add a user, then 
change the password for that user. Then reboot and be able to log in 
graphically as the user.

Bob



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct  5 12:44:24 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:44:24 -0400
Subject: 2009-10-05 - 16:00 UTC (12:00pm EDT) - Fedora QA meeting agenda
Message-ID: <1254746664.7736.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>

# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2009-10-05
# Time: 16:00 UTC (12 EDT)
# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 

Hey gang!  I'm back in action this week and ready to host the QA meeting
-- unless of course someone is interested in steering today.  Proposed
agenda below ... as always suggestions/corrections welcome.

        1. Preview meeting follow-up - http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-09-28/fedora-meeting.2009-09-28-16.00.html
        
        2. AutoQA Update - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/israwhidebroken.com
        
        3. F-12-Beta QA readiness
        
        4. Upcoming QA events
              * Beta Blocker Bug (go/no go) - Mon 2009-10-05 
              * Beta Project Wide Release Readiness Meeting - Wed
                2009-10-07
              * RAID Test Day - Thu 2009-10-08
              * Beta Release Public Availability - Tue 2009-10-13
        
        5. Open floor - 

Thanks,
James
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From schaiba at gmail.com  Tue Oct  6 14:11:36 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:11:36 +0300
Subject: is Fedora 12 alpha for x86_64 burnable and usable?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4ACB5018.6040407@gmail.com>

Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   i downloaded Fedora-12-Alpha-x86_64-DVD.iso, it seems to be fine,
> "isovfy" looks good, the sha256sum checksum matches, it's "-o loop"
> mountable, but i've tried twice to use k3b to burn it to DVD and the
> result is a DVD that *visually* looks like it's had something burned
> to it but two different machines claim that the DVD is blank and
> refuse to mount it.
>
>   i've never had this difficulty before with downloading and burning
> fedora DVDs.  thoughts?
>
> rday
>
> p.s.  not surprisingly, i can't boot from a "burned" DVD since it
> simply appears blank.
>
> p.p.s.  for the first time, i'm using a different brand of DVD --
> imation DVD+R.  i hesitate to blame the media but ... who knows?
> --
>
> ========================================================================
> Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
>
>         Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.
>
> Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
> Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
> ========================================================================
>
>   
I burned and used it with no problems. Try brand name media and your k3b 
settings (DAO, speed, etc.)



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct  5 14:12:29 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:12:29 -0400
Subject: 2009-10-01 - Anaconda Storage Rewrite Test Day report
Message-ID: <1254751949.7736.81.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Greetings folks,

Many thanks to all who participated in the anaconda test day hosted last
Thursday [1].  A decent range of storage scenarios were tested,
including various combinations of LVM, RAID and encryption, iSCSI, USB
and PowerPC.  We had a few new faces helping shake out bugs.  Special
thanks to Alexey Torkhov who wrestled through some live image issues and
gets the prize for most reported issues for the event.

526699 NEW  - CryptoError: luks_format failed for '/dev/mapper/VolGroup-LogVol00'
526782 NEW  - setroubleshoot:      SELinux is preventing /bin/loadkeys access to a leaked /dev/mapper/control file descriptor.
526789 NEW  - Install didn't reboot at the end
526899 NEW  - Encrypted partitions has "Unknown" type in table and ext4 in editor
526975 NEW  - AttributeError: 'LVMPhysicalVolume' object has no attribute 'mapName'
527091 NEW  - Installer causes a number of popups when creating filesystems
526906 NEW  - Switching encryption on and off creates more and more luks devices
525615 NEW  - system can not automatically reboot after exit installer -f12 beta TC
526822 ASSIGNED  - Installer didn't install boot loader if /boot is on mdraid1
526842 ASSIGNED  - Firstboot not run after installation
526778 CLOSED NOTABUG - Some installation screens has no text on live cd
526898 CLOSED NOTABUG - Doesn't allow to edit LVM PV to set encryption
502310 CLOSED RAWHIDE - Editing partitions without providing a passphrase for previously encrypted partitions fails - IndexError: list index out of range
523862 CLOSED RAWHIDE - mdadm craps at boot

Dmraid is an area still in need of additional focus.  If you have dmraid
capable hardware, I invite you to join the RAID test day, this Thursday
Oct 8 [2].

Thanks,
James

[1]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-01_Anaconda/Features/StorageFiltering
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-08
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From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  5 16:12:32 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:12:32 -0400
Subject: Welcome to the Bug Zappers
Message-ID: <20091005161232.GA2584@blackhare>

Hello Chris, welcome! I will approve your group membership in a
second. We've just updated the list of components which we'd like
BugZappers to work on as a priority, so there's lots available. The list
is:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Components_and_Triagers

we'd recommend you pick a component from that list that you feel
comfortable working on, then contact its maintainer to say you'll be
working on triaging it, and ask if they have any tips or special
requests. Then read:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Tools
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/FindingBugs
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/How_to_Triage
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/FindingDuplicates
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/StockBugzillaResponses

To see how the process works (I know that looks like a lot of pages, but
several of them are pretty short, and they all work together). Please do
join #fedora-bugzappers and ask if you have any questions or problems,
there's usually another team member around who can help you out. Thanks
a lot for volunteering your time! We have our weekly meeting tomorrow 
- Tuesday at 15:00 UTC (11:00 ETS) - Please come if you have the time, 
and we can welcome you there.


Edward Kirk (IRC: TK009)



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct  5 16:32:10 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:32:10 -0700
Subject: Fresh Install From Nightly Compose
 desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso
In-Reply-To: <4AC9D60A.3010604@speakeasy.net>
References: <4AC9D60A.3010604@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <1254760330.2291.7.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 07:18 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I did a fresh install from the desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso nightly 
> compose. The installer needs quite a lot more work.



Please file bugs. This is useful testing, but posting the issues to this
list is not the best way to track them and ensure they get fixed.
Thanks.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us  Mon Oct  5 17:13:53 2009
From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (G.Wolfe Woodbury)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:13:53 -0400
Subject: Rawhide?  Are we in freeze or what?
Message-ID: <4ACA2951.2010609@wolves.durham.nc.us>

There has been now rawhide for several days, and the current images 
won't install on my older i686(Radeon r100/7200/QD) box.

Where can we track rawhide status?

-- 
G.Wolfe Woodbury



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct  5 17:15:36 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:15:36 -0400
Subject: Fresh Install From Nightly Compose
 desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso
In-Reply-To: <4AC9D60A.3010604@speakeasy.net>
References: <4AC9D60A.3010604@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <1254762936.7736.96.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 07:18 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> Does anyone know how I can encrypt my hard drive after 
> installing a system? 

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/apcs04.html

Thanks,
James
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From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct  5 17:25:16 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:25:16 -0400
Subject: Rawhide?  Are we in freeze or what?
In-Reply-To: <4ACA2951.2010609@wolves.durham.nc.us>
References: <4ACA2951.2010609@wolves.durham.nc.us>
Message-ID: <1254763516.7736.98.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 13:13 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> There has been now rawhide for several days, and the current images 
> won't install on my older i686(Radeon r100/7200/QD) box.
> 
> Where can we track rawhide status?

As per the 'is rawhide broken?' proposal [1], rawhide test results are
posted to a mailing list at the moment [2].  This is intended to be a
short-term solution until a more pretty front-end is available.

With regards to the recent rawhide outage, it appeared to be due to some
typo in the comps.xml file (see the tail end of
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-20091004/logs/mash.log).

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Israwhidebroken.com_Proposal
[2] https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/autoqa-results

Thanks,
James
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct  5 18:37:15 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:37:15 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091005 changes
Message-ID: <20091005183715.GA30574@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Mon Oct  5 06:15:11 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0
	clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8)
	clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8)



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0()(64bit)
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0()(64bit)
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2()(64bit)
	clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8)
	clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8)
	clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8)
	clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0()(64bit)
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0()(64bit)
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2()(64bit)
	clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8)
	clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8)
	clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8)
	clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8)



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0()(64bit)
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0()(64bit)
	clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2()(64bit)
	clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8)
	clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8)
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



New package yum-rhn-plugin
        RHN support for yum
Removed package PolicyKit-olpc
Updated Packages:

akonadi-1.2.1-1.fc12
--------------------
* Tue Sep 01 2009 Luk?? Tinkl  - 1.2.1-1
- Akonadi 1.2.1


amarok-2.2.0-2.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Rex Dieter  2.2.0-2
- Requires: kdebase-runtime (support for trash protocol needed)


argus-2.0.6.fixes.1-19.fc12
---------------------------
* Sun Oct 04 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 2.0.6.fixes.1-19
- Fix build with libpcap 1.0 (rename conflicting bpf_dump symbol, remove
  conflicting redeclaration of bpf_image)

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Gabriel Somlo  - 2.0.6.fixes.1-18
- Rebuilt for libpcap.1.0

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.0.6.fixes.1-17
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


brasero-2.28.0-2.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-2
- Fix ejecting after burning


control-center-2.28.0-13.fc12
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-13
- Don't show markup in the UI


empathy-2.28.0.1-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Brian Pepple  - 2.28.0.1-1
- Update to 2.28.0.1.
- See http://download.gnome.org/sources/empathy/2.28/empathy-2.28.0.1.news


file-roller-2.28.0-2.fc12
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-2
- Respect button-images setting


fonttools-2.2-7.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Caol?n McNamara  - 2.2-7
* Resolves: rhbz#525444 as is a reserved keyword in python


gcolor2-0.4-3.fc12
------------------
* Sat Oct 03 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.4-3
- Fix missing includes (#525783)


gvfs-1.4.0-3.fc12
-----------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1.4.0-3
- Consider logical partitions when deciding if a drive should be ignored


happy-1.18.4-4.fc12
-------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Jens Petersen  - 1.18.4-4
- selinux fcontext no longer needed in post script


initscripts-9.00-1
------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Bill Nottingham  - 9.00-1
- halt: wrap /sbin/killall5 to catch some return codes (#526539)
- netfs, netconsle, network: fix return codes to match LSB spec (#524489, #524480, #524486)
- handle kernels compiled both with and without CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS
- halt: use killall5's return code to avoid unncesssary sleeping (#524359, )
- halt: don't kill mdmon on shutdown. (#524357, )
- rc.sysinit: do not try and activate ISW raidsets, unless noiswmd is passed. (#524355, )
- translation updates: ca, cs, da, mai, po, sv, uk


itext-2.1.7-6.fc12
------------------
* Sat Oct 03 2009 Orcan Ogetbil  2.1.7-6
- Bump release

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Orcan Ogetbil  2.1.7-5
- Separate rtf, rups and toolbox packages
- Reduce dependencies of the main package (RHBZ#524066)


kdeplasma-addons-4.3.1-3.fc12
-----------------------------
* Sat Oct 03 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.1-3
- Ship -devel subpackage (#527011)

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-2
- Microblogging Widget Does Not Fetch Tweets (#526524)


konversation-1.2-0.12.rc1.fc12
------------------------------
* Sat Oct 03 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-0.12.rc1
- konversation-1.2-rc1


labrea-2.5.1-5.fc12
-------------------
* Sun Oct 04 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 2.5.1-5
- Fix build with GCC 4.4 (#511524)

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.5.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild

* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.5.1-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild


libuser-0.56.12-1.fc12
----------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Miloslav Trma?  - 0.56.12-1
- Update to libuser-0.56.12.


libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-1.fc12
--------------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 0.2.17-1
- Rebuild for new qpidc.


matahari-0.0.4-6.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 0.0.4-6
- Rebuild for new qpidc.


mingw32-cppunit-1.12.1-3.fc12
-----------------------------
* Sun Oct 04 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 1.12.1-3
- Rebuild for MinGW debuginfo breakage


moblin-panel-status-0.0.7-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Peter Robinson  0.0.7-1
- New upstream 0.0.7 release


nfs-utils-1.2.0-16.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Steve Dickson  1.2.0-16
- Fixed a whole where '-o v4' was not overriding the
  version in the conf file.


phonon-4.3.1-102.fc12
---------------------
* Sat Oct 03 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-102
- Requires: qt4 >= 4.5.2-21

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-101
- revert to kde/phonon
- inflate to Release: 101
- -backend-gstreamer: Epoch: 2


qemu-0.11.0-3.fc12
------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Justin M. Forbes  - 2:0.11.0-3
- Improve error reporting on file access (#524695)


qt-4.5.2-22.fc12
----------------
* Sat Oct 03 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-22
- if ! phonon_internal, exclude more/all phonon headers
- qt-devel must Requires: phonon-devel (#520323)

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-21
- switch to external/kde phonon


rygel-0.4.2-1.fc12
------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Peter Robinson  0.4.2-1
- Update to 0.4.2


xscope-1.2-1.fc12
-----------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Yanko Kaneti  1.2-1
- New upstream release. Drop patches.


yersinia-0.7.1-6.fc12
---------------------
* Sun Oct 04 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 0.7.1-6
- Add --with-pcap-includes to fix build with libpcap 1.0

* Thu Sep 24 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 0.7.1-5
- Rebuild for new libpcap

* Mon Jul 27 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.7.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


Summary:
Added Packages: 1
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 28



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Mon Oct  5 18:37:48 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:37:48 -0400
Subject: is Fedora 12 alpha for x86_64 burnable and usable?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4ACA3CFC.7080607@speakeasy.net>

Try cleaning your drive with an optical drive cleaning kit. Such kits do 
help. It could be that the laser device in the drive has dust on it.

If that doesn't work, check if you can boot from a USB stick.

If you can't boot from a USB stick, then replace the optical drive. It 
is not so expensive as it may seem.

Thanks

Bob



On 10/05/2009 06:44 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>    i downloaded Fedora-12-Alpha-x86_64-DVD.iso, it seems to be fine,
> "isovfy" looks good, the sha256sum checksum matches, it's "-o loop"
> mountable, but i've tried twice to use k3b to burn it to DVD and the
> result is a DVD that *visually* looks like it's had something burned
> to it but two different machines claim that the DVD is blank and
> refuse to mount it.
>
>    i've never had this difficulty before with downloading and burning
> fedora DVDs.  thoughts?
>
> rday
>
> p.s.  not surprisingly, i can't boot from a "burned" DVD since it
> simply appears blank.
>
> p.p.s.  for the first time, i'm using a different brand of DVD --
> imation DVD+R.  i hesitate to blame the media but ... who knows?
> --
>
> ========================================================================
> Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
>
>          Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.
>
> Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
> Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
> ========================================================================
>
>    



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Mon Oct  5 18:41:06 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:41:06 -0400
Subject: Fresh Install From Nightly Compose
	desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso
In-Reply-To: <1254762936.7736.96.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4AC9D60A.3010604@speakeasy.net>
	<1254762936.7736.96.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4ACA3DC2.5000106@speakeasy.net>

I hate to be too stupid, but wouldn't the procedure spelled out here 
wipe out my installed Fedora 12 (on /dev/sda)?

Bob



On 10/05/2009 01:15 PM, James Laska wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 07:18 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>    
>> Does anyone know how I can encrypt my hard drive after
>> installing a system?
>>      
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/apcs04.html
>
> Thanks,
> James
>    



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Mon Oct  5 18:47:15 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:47:15 -0400
Subject: Fresh Install From Nightly
	Compose	desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso
In-Reply-To: <4ACA3DC2.5000106@speakeasy.net>
References: <4AC9D60A.3010604@speakeasy.net>	<1254762936.7736.96.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4ACA3DC2.5000106@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <4ACA3F33.8020203@speakeasy.net>

To make it clearer what I really want: I already have a Fedora 12 system 
up and running but it does not appear to be encrypted.

If I follow the instructions below (at 
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/apcs04.html  )

will my Fedora 12 system be preserved, or will it be destroyed in the 
encryption process? I get the feeling the answer is it will be destroyed 
-- I need to encrypt a filesystem first and then install Fedora 12 
within that.

Thanks

Bob



On 10/05/2009 02:41 PM, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I hate to be too stupid, but wouldn't the procedure spelled out here 
> wipe out my installed Fedora 12 (on /dev/sda)?
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On 10/05/2009 01:15 PM, James Laska wrote:
>> On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 07:18 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>>> Does anyone know how I can encrypt my hard drive after
>>> installing a system?
>> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/apcs04.html
>>
>> Thanks,
>> James
>



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct  5 18:51:15 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:21:15 +0530
Subject: login manager in F12 and updates
In-Reply-To: <78323d480910041722s7727c8c9i73060c020f436b2f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480910041722s7727c8c9i73060c020f436b2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ACA4023.4000002@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/05/2009 05:52 AM, A. Mani wrote:
> After the last few updates, the login manager seems to default to
> gnome, even though kde has been set as the default session. F12
> x86-64.  Check this.

Please file a bug report

Rahul



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct  5 19:04:42 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0400
Subject: Fresh Install From Nightly Compose
 desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso
In-Reply-To: <4ACA3F33.8020203@speakeasy.net>
References: <4AC9D60A.3010604@speakeasy.net>
	<1254762936.7736.96.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4ACA3DC2.5000106@speakeasy.net>  <4ACA3F33.8020203@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <1254769482.7736.100.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hey Robert,

On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 14:47 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> To make it clearer what I really want: I already have a Fedora 12 system 
> up and running but it does not appear to be encrypted.
> 
> If I follow the instructions below (at 
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/apcs04.html  )
> 
> will my Fedora 12 system be preserved, or will it be destroyed in the 
> encryption process? I get the feeling the answer is it will be destroyed 
> -- I need to encrypt a filesystem first and then install Fedora 12 
> within that.

Good question, sorry if that wasn't clear.  To my understanding, you
cannot encrypt an already unencrypted partition.  I believe you'd need
to back-up the data to another location, and then follow the procedures
in the install-guide (either during anaconda or from an already
installed system).

Thanks,
James
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From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Mon Oct  5 19:10:01 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:10:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: is Fedora 12 alpha for x86_64 burnable and usable?
In-Reply-To: <4ACA3CFC.7080607@speakeasy.net>
References: 
	<4ACA3CFC.7080607@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:

> Try cleaning your drive with an optical drive cleaning kit. Such
> kits do help. It could be that the laser device in the drive has
> dust on it.
>
> If that doesn't work, check if you can boot from a USB stick.
>
> If you can't boot from a USB stick, then replace the optical drive.
> It is not so expensive as it may seem.

  yes, it was the drive itself.  i pulled an external usb sony dvd
burner out of storage and, sure enough, it worked fine.  drat.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Mon Oct  5 19:16:00 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:16:00 -0400
Subject: Fresh Install From Nightly Compose
	desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso
In-Reply-To: <1254769482.7736.100.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4AC9D60A.3010604@speakeasy.net>	<1254762936.7736.96.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4ACA3DC2.5000106@speakeasy.net>
	<4ACA3F33.8020203@speakeasy.net>
	<1254769482.7736.100.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4ACA45F0.1050600@speakeasy.net>

On 10/05/2009 03:04 PM, James Laska wrote:
> Hey Robert,
>
> On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 14:47 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>    
>> To make it clearer what I really want: I already have a Fedora 12 system
>> up and running but it does not appear to be encrypted.
>>
>> If I follow the instructions below (at
>> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/apcs04.html  )
>>
>> will my Fedora 12 system be preserved, or will it be destroyed in the
>> encryption process? I get the feeling the answer is it will be destroyed
>> -- I need to encrypt a filesystem first and then install Fedora 12
>> within that.
>>      
> Good question, sorry if that wasn't clear.  To my understanding, you
> cannot encrypt an already unencrypted partition.  I believe you'd need
> to back-up the data to another location, and then follow the procedures
> in the install-guide (either during anaconda or from an already
> installed system).
>
> Thanks,
> James
>    

Hey James,

I did think this might be the case. I might try another (newer) nightly 
compose and see if I can get the encryption to work. Only this time I'll 
install the live system only and not add or subtract software to it 
until I'm sure the important basics are working. I really like having 
encryption to guard my privacy.

During yesterday's install attempt, Anaconda does not seem to have 
encrypted my file system as part of the installation process, but this 
might be because I was trying to replace an existing Fedora 12 system 
with a brand new one and the older system was encrypted, and perhaps 
that confuses Anaconda.

Bob



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct  5 20:24:00 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:24:00 -0400
Subject: Fresh Install From Nightly Compose
 desktop-x86_64-20091002.15.iso
In-Reply-To: <4ACA45F0.1050600@speakeasy.net>
References: <4AC9D60A.3010604@speakeasy.net>
	<1254762936.7736.96.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4ACA3DC2.5000106@speakeasy.net> <4ACA3F33.8020203@speakeasy.net>
	<1254769482.7736.100.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4ACA45F0.1050600@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <1254774240.7736.103.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 15:16 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> On 10/05/2009 03:04 PM, James Laska wrote:
> > Hey Robert,
> >
> > On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 14:47 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> >    
> >> To make it clearer what I really want: I already have a Fedora 12 system
> >> up and running but it does not appear to be encrypted.
> >>
> >> If I follow the instructions below (at
> >> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/apcs04.html  )
> >>
> >> will my Fedora 12 system be preserved, or will it be destroyed in the
> >> encryption process? I get the feeling the answer is it will be destroyed
> >> -- I need to encrypt a filesystem first and then install Fedora 12
> >> within that.
> >>      
> > Good question, sorry if that wasn't clear.  To my understanding, you
> > cannot encrypt an already unencrypted partition.  I believe you'd need
> > to back-up the data to another location, and then follow the procedures
> > in the install-guide (either during anaconda or from an already
> > installed system).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James
> >    
> 
> Hey James,
> 
> I did think this might be the case. I might try another (newer) nightly 
> compose and see if I can get the encryption to work. Only this time I'll 
> install the live system only and not add or subtract software to it 
> until I'm sure the important basics are working. I really like having 
> encryption to guard my privacy.
> 
> During yesterday's install attempt, Anaconda does not seem to have 
> encrypted my file system as part of the installation process, but this 
> might be because I was trying to replace an existing Fedora 12 system 
> with a brand new one and the older system was encrypted, and perhaps 
> that confuses Anaconda.

It certainly should honor your partitioning requests.  If you have any
luck reproducing the issue, any screenshots (and log files from the
install '/tmp/*log*') would help identify the root cause.

Thanks for testing!
James

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From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct  5 20:29:13 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:29:13 -0400
Subject: 2009-10-05 - 16:00 UTC (12:00pm EDT) - Fedora QA meeting recap
In-Reply-To: <1254746664.7736.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1254746664.7736.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1254774553.7736.105.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Full transcript available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20091005

= Attendees =

People Present (lines said):
* jlaska (111)
* adamw (38)
* wwoods (25)
* Oxf13 (24)
* kparal1 (17)
* skvidal (15)
* buggbot (5)
* poelcat (4)
* zodbot (2)
* brunowolff_ (1)
* Sir_Limpsalot (1)

Regrets:
* Liam Li (lili)
* He Rui (rhe)
* David Pravec (dpravec)

= Agenda =

*
[https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00071.html Proposed meeting agenda]
*
[http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-05/fedora-meeting.2009-10-05-16.00.html meetbot summary]

== Preview Meeting follow-up ==

http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-09-28/fedora-meeting.2009-09-28-16.00.html

=== Anaconda dependency follow-up ===

Adamw reminded the group that we hadn't yet followed up on the previous
topic raised by dpravec around installer dependencies changing out from
under it.

F13 noted that there were discussions with RHT management reminding
folks that it was too late to make general (or feature) changes in
F-12.  

Jlaska asked what specific issues initiated this discussion.  Adamw and
f13 noted the recent nfs the lvm changes.

== AutoQA update ==

Wwoods wired up the UI, so members of the 'qa' group can now add/remove
test results for the manual tests (see
[http://wwoods.fedorapeople.org/screenshots/irb.png screenshot).  Also
decided to defer:
# sweet ajax UI junk and
# automating the yum/network tests until after irb.com completes

Reminder of the current roadmap:
https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/israwhidebroken.com.  Current
tasks include:
# get links back from israwhidebroken to autotest
# get it all running in production in public

Jlaska took an action item to sync up w/ mmcgrath to identify next steps
when the AutoQA hardware arrives in PHX2.

=== Packagediff update ===

Next, kparal updated the group on his packagediff activities.  The
intention is to alert on important changes between packages, hopefully
part of autoqa project in the future.  

Currently working 2 tickets:
# https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/53 - Investigate what rpmdiff
offers to our tests
# https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/54 - Write rpmdiff test

The code currently highlights changed dependencies, changed config
files, changed file modes and such stuff.  Wwoods suggested also
falgging added/removed binaries.  

Some discussion surfaced around whether Kparal's efforts were based on
an older RHT internal project called 'rpmdiff'.  Kparal's efforts are
entirely based on the ''rpmlint'' implementation of ''rpmdiff''.  Kparal
is currently waiting for some feedback on a few rpmdiff issues.  Skvidal
recommended reaching out to ville skytta.

== F-12-Beta QA Readiness ==

Jlaska asked the team for help preparing for the upcoming Go/No Go
decision at the upcoming rel-eng meeting.  The team informally walked
the remaining
[https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F12Beta&hide_resolved=1 F12Beta blocker bugs].

F13 asked if any blocker bug candidates came out of the Test Day.  Aside
from {{bz|517260}} it wasn't clear yet whether any of the recorded test
day bugs
(https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00058.html) where beta blockers.  Jlaska took an action item to catch up with clumens to help review the list.  So far, the only Test day bugs raised to the beta blocker list are:

* {{bz|526842}} ASSIGNED - Firstboot not run after installation
* {{bz|517260}} ASSIGNED - liveinst fails at partitioning screeen
* {{bz|523862}} CLOSED RAWHIDE - mdadm craps at boot

Adamw expressed concern around the missing panel icon bug noted on the
list by Chuck Anderson (see
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00058.html).  Turns out this is {{bz|510249}}.  Mclasen already evaluated and recommended fixing this issue post-Beta.

Jlaska asked for wwoods and skvidal expertise on rhe's preupgrade {{bz|
526208}}.  It's a bug in the F-11 package, but would potentially impact
anyone using preupgrade to upgrade from F-11 to F-12.  Skvidal intended
to investigate the UI issue after the meeting.

Jlaska asked if {{bz|526535}} should be moved into MODIFIED given a
package was built and testing requested on fedora-devel-list (see
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-October/msg00154.html).  Adamw asked what the policy is with regards to MODIFIED bugs.  Does MODIFIED mean a package is built and a tag request is submitted?  F13 proposed that MODIFIED means a fix is available, but not yet tested or included in the product.  This seems to hold when adding the freeze 'tagging' procedure into the mix.

== Upcoming QA events ==

Jlaska did a ''speedy'' walk through of upcoming QA related events

* 2009-10-05 - F12 Beta go/no_go meeting (@  18:00pm - rel-eng meeting)
* 2009-10-06 - [[BugZappers/Meetings]]
* 2009-10-07 - Beta Project Wide Release Readiness Meeting
* 2009-10-08 - [[Test_Day:2009-10-08|RAID Test Day]]
* 2009-10-13 - F12 Beta availability

== Open floor -  ==

No open discussion topics were raised.

= Action items =

# jlaska to catch up with mmcgrath on delivery of autoqa hardware to PHX
# jlaska - sync-up with clumens to identify any blocking issues from
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00073.html
# poelcat to check in on beta blocker status of 510249

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From tirloni at gmail.com  Mon Oct  5 20:47:47 2009
From: tirloni at gmail.com (Giovanni P. Tirloni)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:47:47 -0300
Subject: New BugZapper
Message-ID: <3859A25D-91F8-41DA-A76C-7D3B8475AA2B@gmail.com>

Hello,

  My name is Giovanni Tirloni and I'd be glad to help the BugZappers  
team. I live in Campinas (BR), not too far from Sao Paulo.

  I have experience using Linux since Red Hat 4.0 and I was pretty  
active in the FreeBSD scene for a few years. Lately I've been working  
with application support and I stayed a bit away from it all. However  
I'm looking forward to become active again in the open source  
community and thought contributing to the Fedora project would be the  
best way to start :)

  I've also some experience writing Python & Shell Script code and  
also tweaking C and Java whenever needed.

  At home I've got a server working with a dedicated hypervisor and  
Fedora Rawhide and CentOS installed. I think this will allow me to  
create VMs as needed to replicate bugs and play around. My focus is  
really server and network-related stuff so I'm not too experienced  
with Linux desktop environments.

  Looking forward to contribute!

Thank you,

Giovanni P. Tirloni
tirloni at gmail.com






From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  5 22:07:11 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:07:11 -0400
Subject: New BugZapper
In-Reply-To: <3859A25D-91F8-41DA-A76C-7D3B8475AA2B@gmail.com>
References: <3859A25D-91F8-41DA-A76C-7D3B8475AA2B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091005220711.GA2452@blackhare>

On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 05:47:47PM -0300, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote:
> Hello,
>
>  My name is Giovanni Tirloni and I'd be glad to help the BugZappers  
> team. I live in Campinas (BR), not too far from Sao Paulo.
>
>  I have experience using Linux since Red Hat 4.0 and I was pretty active 
> in the FreeBSD scene for a few years. Lately I've been working with 
> application support and I stayed a bit away from it all. However I'm 
> looking forward to become active again in the open source community and 
> thought contributing to the Fedora project would be the best way to start 
> :)
>
>  I've also some experience writing Python & Shell Script code and also 
> tweaking C and Java whenever needed.
>
>  At home I've got a server working with a dedicated hypervisor and  
> Fedora Rawhide and CentOS installed. I think this will allow me to  
> create VMs as needed to replicate bugs and play around. My focus is  
> really server and network-related stuff so I'm not too experienced with 
> Linux desktop environments.
>
>  Looking forward to contribute!
>
> Thank you,
>
> Giovanni P. Tirloni
> tirloni at gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list

Hello Giovanni, welcome =). I don't see your request to join the triagers group in my queue, have you already completed the sign up for your Fedora Account and requested membership in the 'triagers' group?

Edward Kirk (IRC: TK009)




From tirloni at gmail.com  Mon Oct  5 22:32:54 2009
From: tirloni at gmail.com (Giovanni P. Tirloni)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:32:54 -0300
Subject: New BugZapper
In-Reply-To: <20091005220711.GA2452@blackhare>
References: <3859A25D-91F8-41DA-A76C-7D3B8475AA2B@gmail.com>
	<20091005220711.GA2452@blackhare>
Message-ID: <07F44C21-A791-4D4B-B118-78CBF4BD6FB6@gmail.com>


On Oct 5, 2009, at 7:07 PM, TK009 wrote:
> Hello Giovanni, welcome =). I don't see your request to join the  
> triagers group in my queue, have you already completed the sign up  
> for your Fedora Account and requested membership in the 'triagers'  
> group?

Hello Edward,

  Just applied to the 'triagers' group. Thanks for the heads up.


Giovanni P. Tirloni
tirloni at gmail.com






From iarlyy at gmail.com  Tue Oct  6 02:03:51 2009
From: iarlyy at gmail.com (iarly selbir | ski0s)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:03:51 -0300
Subject: New BugZapper
In-Reply-To: <07F44C21-A791-4D4B-B118-78CBF4BD6FB6@gmail.com>
References: <3859A25D-91F8-41DA-A76C-7D3B8475AA2B@gmail.com>
	<20091005220711.GA2452@blackhare>
	<07F44C21-A791-4D4B-B118-78CBF4BD6FB6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <81481f630910051903u5b11879p687e3b97b719c05b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi man, I'm from brazil ( fortaleza ) too, welcome to the group, lately I'm
a bit away because my daily work.. but coming soon I'll back


Regards,

- -
iarly selbir | ski0s

:wq!


On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote:

>
> On Oct 5, 2009, at 7:07 PM, TK009 wrote:
>
>> Hello Giovanni, welcome =). I don't see your request to join the triagers
>> group in my queue, have you already completed the sign up for your Fedora
>> Account and requested membership in the 'triagers' group?
>>
>
> Hello Edward,
>
>  Just applied to the 'triagers' group. Thanks for the heads up.
>
>
>
> Giovanni P. Tirloni
> tirloni at gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
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From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct  6 10:12:39 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:12:39 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091006101239.0F91910F8AC@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    alure-1.0-4.fc10
    bullet-2.75-1.fc10
    cobbler-2.0.1-1.fc10
    dnsmasq-2.46-2.fc10
    f-spot-0.6.1.2-2.fc10
    garmintools-0.10-2.fc10
    getdata-0.5.0-3.fc10
    ghostscript-8.70-1.fc10
    gmusicbrowser-1.0.2-1.fc10
    ibus-chewing-1.2.0.20091002-1.fc10
    mydns-1.2.8.27-4.fc10
    oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2.fc10
    pure-0.35-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 alure-1.0-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10241)
 Audio Library Tools REloaded
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

ALURE is a utility library to help manage common tasks with OpenAL
applications. This includes device enumeration and initialization,  file
loading, and streaming.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526055 - Review Request: alure - AL Utilities REtooled
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526055
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bullet-2.75-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10283)
 3D Collision Detection and Rigid Body Dynamics Library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New Upstream Release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct  3 2009 Thomas Kowaliczek  - 2.75-1
- Updatet to new upstream version 2.75
- Updatet the patch file to work agian
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cobbler-2.0.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10256)
 Boot server configurator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes various bugs discovered during testing of 2.0.0.  See the mailing list for
more information.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dnsmasq-2.46-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10252)
 A lightweight DHCP/caching DNS server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes two security issues with dnsmasq's tftp server:
http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-2957
http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-2958
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 2.46-2
- Fix multiple TFTP server vulnerabilities (CVE-2009-2957, CVE-2009-2958)
* Mon Dec 29 2008 Mat?j Cepl  - 2.45-2
- rebuilt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #519020 - CVE-2009-2957, CVE-2009-2958 dnsmasq: multiple vulnerabilities in TFTP server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519020
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 f-spot-0.6.1.2-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10274)
 Photo management application
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

fix crash when using "soft focus" and cairo-devel was not installed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct  3 2009 Christian Krause  - 0.6.1.2-2
- Add patch to fix f-spot crash when using "soft focus" and cairo-devel
  was not installed (BZ 526563)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526563 - f-spot crashes when using "soft focus"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526563
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 garmintools-0.10-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10278)
 Communication tools for Garmin devices
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This software provides Linux users with the ability to communicate with the
Garmin Forerunner 305 via the USB interface. All of the documented Garmin
protocols as of Rev C (May 19, 2006) for the USB physical link implemented.
This means that if you have a Garmin with a USB connection to a PC, you   ought
to be able to use this software to communicate with it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #461849 - Review Request: garmintools - Communication tools for Garmin devices
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461849
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 getdata-0.5.0-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10265)
 Library for reading and writing dirfile data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Include bugfix patch from upstream.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Sep 27 2009 Matthew Truch  - 0.5.0-3
- Apply upstream bugfix patch for mstrings.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ghostscript-8.70-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10284)
 A PostScript interpreter and renderer.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates ghostscript to the latest stable release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Aug  3 2009 Tim Waugh  8.70-1
- 8.70.
- License has changed to GPLv3+.  Packages containing programs that
  link to libgs/libijs are:
  - foomatic (GPLv2+)
  - libspectre (GPLv2+)
  - ImageMagick (ImageMagick, listed on Licensing wiki page under
    "Good Licenses" and marked as GPLv3 compat)
  - gutenprint (GPLv2+)
* Mon Aug  3 2009 Tim Waugh  8.64-12
- Moved examples to doc subpackage (bug #515167).
- Converted spec file to UTF-8.
* Thu Jul 30 2009 Tim Waugh  8.64-11
- Fixed CVE-2009-0583,0584 patch by using 255 as the maximum number of
  points, not 100, and by not treating a missing black point tag as an
  error (bug #487744).
* Thu Jul 30 2009 Rex Dieter  - 8.64-10
- License: GPLv2 and Redistributable, no modification permitted (bug #487510)
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 8.64-9
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Jun 10 2009 Tim Waugh  8.64-8
- Fix scripts so they don't get broken on install (bug #502550).
* Thu Jun  4 2009 Tim Waugh  8.64-7
- Applied patch to fix NULL dereference in JBIG2 decoder (bug #503995).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #525403 - Back-port 8.70 to Fedora 10
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525403
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gmusicbrowser-1.0.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10254)
 Jukebox for large collections of music files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Changes in version 1.0.2  ========================  - updated fetch_cover and
lyrics plugins  - updated translations : de fr  - new translation : zh_CN  -
added support for reading pictures in flac files  - add "Now Playing" support
for last.fm  - new plugin : notify  - new layout : 'Tabbed Lists, Library &
Context'  - add support for using ogg123 to play flac files  - improved Makefile
- Implement "CopyFields" DBus function  - fix accumulation of mplayer processes
if -cache option enabled by using -nocache option  - fix to support amixer
controls with spaces in their name  - other small fixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct  3 2009 Remi Collet  - 1.0.2-1
- new upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-chewing-1.2.0.20091002-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10257)
 The Chewing engine for IBus input platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

# Changes  - Bug 518901 - ibus-chewing would not work with locale zh_TW.Big  -
Fix Google issue 501: ibus-chewing buffer doesn't get cleared when  toggling
ibus on/off  - Fix Google issue 502: ibus-chewing: character selection window
stays  behind when toggling ibus off- Use WM's revised ibus-chewing icon.  -
Debug output now marked with levels.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Ding-Yi Chen  - 1.2.0.20091002-1
- Bug 518901 - ibus-chewing would not work with locale zh_TW.Big
- Fix Google issue 501: ibus-chewing buffer doesn't get cleared when
toggling ibus on/off
- Fix Google issue 502: ibus-chewing: character selection window stays
behind when toggling ibus off- Use WM's revised ibus-chewing icon.
- Debug output now marked with levels.
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Peng Huang  - 1.2.0.20090917-2
- Rebuild with ibus-1.2.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #518901 - ibus-chewing would not work with locale zh_TW.Big5
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518901
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mydns-1.2.8.27-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10264)
 A Database based DNS server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Aug 17 2009 Itamar Reis Peixoto  - 1.2.8.27-4
- make mydns start after mysql
* Tue Aug  4 2009 Itamar Reis Peixoto  - 1.2.8.27-3
- fix spec file for rhel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10273)
 A text roman with standard and discretionary ligatures, class-based kerning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First bodehi push
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #512079 - Review Request: oflb-prociono-fonts - A serif font created by Barry Schwartz
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512079
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pure-0.35-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10280)
 A term-rewriting functional programming language
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #488563 - Review Request: pure - The Pure programming language
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488563
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct  6 10:12:39 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:12:39 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091006101239.01AE410F8AB@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    alure-1.0-4.fc11
    bullet-2.75-1.fc11
    cobbler-2.0.1-1.fc11
    deltarpm-3.4-18.fc11
    dnsmasq-2.46-3.fc11
    f-spot-0.6.1.2-3.fc11
    garmintools-0.10-2.fc11
    gcolor2-0.4-3.fc11
    getdata-0.5.0-4.fc11
    gmusicbrowser-1.0.2-1.fc11
    ibus-chewing-1.2.0.20091002-1.fc11
    ibus-qt-1.2.0.20090822-2.fc11
    itext-2.1.7-5.fc11
    konversation-1.2-0.12.rc1.fc11
    mydns-1.2.8.27-4.fc11
    oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2.fc11
    openvrml-0.18.3-5.fc11
    pure-0.35-1.fc11
    rhn-client-tools-0.7.4-1.fc11
    sec-2.5.2-1.fc11
    stomppy-2.0.4-1.fc11
    totem-2.26.3-6.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 alure-1.0-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10267)
 Audio Library Tools REloaded
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

ALURE is a utility library to help manage common tasks with OpenAL
applications. This includes device enumeration and initialization,  file
loading, and streaming.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526055 - Review Request: alure - AL Utilities REtooled
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526055
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bullet-2.75-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10248)
 3D Collision Detection and Rigid Body Dynamics Library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct  3 2009 Thomas Kowaliczek  - 2.75-1
- Updatet to new upstream version 2.75
- Updatet the patch file to work agian
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cobbler-2.0.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10247)
 Boot server configurator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes various bugs discovered during testing of 2.0.0.  See the mailing list for
more information.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 deltarpm-3.4-18.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10262)
 Create deltas between rpms
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

deltarpm prior to the current build ships with a bundled copy of zlib. This
version of zlib has a known vulnerability with CVE identifier: CAN-2005-1849
This build of deltarpm patches the program to use the system zlib (which was
fixed when the vulnerability was first discovered) instead of the bundled copy.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Jonathan Dieter  - 3.4-18
- Re-split off drpmsync from main package
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Toshio Kuratomi  - 3.4-17
- Work around cvs tag problem
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Toshio Kuratomi  - 3.4-16
- Build against the system zlib, not the bundled library.  This remedies the
  fact that the included zlib is affected by CAN-2005-1849.
- Fix cfile_detect_rsync() to detect rsync even if we don't have a zlib capable
  of making rsync-friendly compressed files.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526432 - deltarpm contains an own, modified copy of zlib
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526432
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dnsmasq-2.46-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10285)
 A lightweight DHCP/caching DNS server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes two security issues with dnsmasq's tftp server:
http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-2957
http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-2958
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 2.46-3
- Fix multiple TFTP server vulnerabilities (CVE-2009-2957, CVE-2009-2958)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #519020 - CVE-2009-2957, CVE-2009-2958 dnsmasq: multiple vulnerabilities in TFTP server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519020
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 f-spot-0.6.1.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10244)
 Photo management application
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

fix crash when using "soft focus" and cairo-devel was not installed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Christian Krause  - 0.6.1.2-3
- Add patch to fix f-spot crash when using "soft focus" and cairo-devel
  was not installed (BZ 526563)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526563 - f-spot crashes when using "soft focus"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526563
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 garmintools-0.10-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10240)
 Communication tools for Garmin devices
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This software provides Linux users with the ability to communicate with the
Garmin Forerunner 305 via the USB interface. All of the documented Garmin
protocols as of Rev C (May 19, 2006) for the USB physical link implemented.
This means that if you have a Garmin with a USB connection to a PC, you   ought
to be able to use this software to communicate with it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #461849 - Review Request: garmintools - Communication tools for Garmin devices
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461849
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gcolor2-0.4-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10269)
 A simple color selector for GTK+2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes a problem with GTK2 > 2.16.6 that made the application's
window close directly after it was launched.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #525783 - gcolor2 fails to launch
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525783
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 getdata-0.5.0-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10263)
 Library for reading and writing dirfile data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Include a bugfix patch from upstream.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Sep 27 2009 Matthew Truch  - 0.5.0-4
- Apply mstrings bugfix from upstream.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gmusicbrowser-1.0.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10287)
 Jukebox for large collections of music files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Changes in version 1.0.2  ========================  - updated fetch_cover and
lyrics plugins  - updated translations : de fr  - new translation : zh_CN  -
added support for reading pictures in flac files  - add "Now Playing" support
for last.fm  - new plugin : notify  - new layout : 'Tabbed Lists, Library &
Context'  - add support for using ogg123 to play flac files  - improved Makefile
- Implement "CopyFields" DBus function  - fix accumulation of mplayer processes
if -cache option enabled by using -nocache option  - fix to support amixer
controls with spaces in their name  - other small fixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct  3 2009 Remi Collet  - 1.0.2-1
- new upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-chewing-1.2.0.20091002-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10290)
 The Chewing engine for IBus input platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

# Changes  - Bug 518901 - ibus-chewing would not work with locale zh_TW.Big  -
Fix Google issue 501: ibus-chewing buffer doesn't get cleared when  toggling
ibus on/off  - Fix Google issue 502: ibus-chewing: character selection window
stays  behind when toggling ibus off- Use WM's revised ibus-chewing icon.  -
Debug output now marked with levels.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Ding-Yi Chen  - 1.2.0.20091002-1
- Bug 518901 - ibus-chewing would not work with locale zh_TW.Big
- Fix Google issue 501: ibus-chewing buffer doesn't get cleared when
toggling ibus on/off
- Fix Google issue 502: ibus-chewing: character selection window stays
behind when toggling ibus off- Use WM's revised ibus-chewing icon.
- Debug output now marked with levels.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #518901 - ibus-chewing would not work with locale zh_TW.Big5
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518901
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-qt-1.2.0.20090822-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10286)
 Qt IBus library and Qt input method plugin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New package for ibus-1.2 backported from F12 providing a native Qt immodule
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #514150 - Review Request: ibus-qt - The qt support tools for ibus
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514150
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 itext-2.1.7-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10253)
 A Free Java-PDF library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Separate rtf, rups and toolbox packages  - Reduce dependencies  - Add maven
POM file for use by other maven packages  - Patch in XML output classes from
earlier version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Orcan Ogetbil  2.1.7-5
- Separate rtf, rups and toolbox packages
- Reduce dependencies of the main package (RHBZ#524066)
* Thu Aug 27 2009 Andrew Overholt  2.1.7-4
- Patch POM file due to explicit "jdk14" requirement on bouncycastle
- Patch in XML output classes from earlier version (their license is
  clean) for maven-doxia
* Thu Aug 27 2009 Andrew Overholt  2.1.7-3
- Add maven POM file for use by other maven packages
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.1.7-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524066 - pdftk has a large dependency chain
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524066
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 konversation-1.2-0.12.rc1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10275)
 A user friendly IRC client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

An update to the KDE4 port of konversation, recommended by upstream: "... it
should be more stable, correct, performant and featureful than 1.1 in every
way."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct  3 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-0.12.rc1
- konversation-1.2-rc1
* Mon Sep 21 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-0.11.beta1
- With auto-expand input box, ircview doesn't scroll (kdebug #208097)
* Mon Sep 21 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-0.10.beta1
- konversation-1.2-beta1
* Sat Sep 19 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-0.9.20090919svn
- localized snapshot
* Sat Sep 19 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-0.8.20090919svn1025849
- konversation-20090919svn1025849 snapshot, for marker line testing
* Mon Aug 24 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-0.6.alpha6
- BR: qca2-devel, libXScrnSaver-devel
* Tue Aug 11 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-0.5.alpha6
- add min kdelibs4 version
* Sat Aug  8 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-0.4.alpha6
- konversation-1.2-alpha6
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.2-0.3.alpha4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Jul  3 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-0.2.alpha4
- konversation-1.2-alpha4
* Wed Jun  3 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-0.1.alpha3
- konversation-1.2-alpha3
- optimize scriptlets
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mydns-1.2.8.27-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10255)
 A Database based DNS server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Aug 17 2009 Itamar Reis Peixoto  - 1.2.8.27-4
- make mydns start after mysql
* Tue Aug  4 2009 Itamar Reis Peixoto  - 1.2.8.27-3
- fix spec file for rhel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10250)
 A text roman with standard and discretionary ligatures, class-based kerning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First push to bodhi
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #512079 - Review Request: oflb-prociono-fonts - A serif font created by Barry Schwartz
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512079
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openvrml-0.18.3-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10281)
 VRML/X3D runtime library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-5
- Actually remove Java and JavaScript backends from the main package.
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-4
- Separate the Java and JavaScript scripting backends into subpackages.
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-3
- Reqire mesa-libGLU-devel since there is no arch-specific libGLU-devel.
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-2
- Arch-independent Requires are not safe for multilib systems when a
  specific architecture is needed.
* Thu Aug 13 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-1
- Updated to 0.18.3.
* Thu Jul 23 2009 Braden McDaniel  
- Made dependencies on gecko-libs and java arch-specific.
- Removed unnecessary (redundant) dependencies on libGLU-devel and
  libXmu-devel.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pure-0.35-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10242)
 A term-rewriting functional programming language
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #488563 - Review Request: pure - The Pure programming language
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488563
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rhn-client-tools-0.7.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10277)
 Support programs and libraries for Red Hat Network or Spacewalk
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix conflict in install time.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Miroslav Such?  0.7.4-1
- add versioned conflict to up2date
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sec-2.5.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10279)
 Simple Event Correlator script to filter log file entries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release and license fix.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus  - 2.5.2-1
- New upstream release
- SPEC file cleanup
- Init script cleanup
- Removed some examples because of licensing issues. Upstream has clarified
  and changed most of the license tags to GPLv2. Additionally, upstream
  will include the examples in the next release.
- Removed a provide statement since a period was in the name and no other
  package required that special name.
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.4.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 stomppy-2.0.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10289)
 Python stomp client for messaging
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Python Stomp Client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526544 - Review Request: stomppy - Python stomp client for messaging
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526544
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 totem-2.26.3-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10258)
 Movie player for GNOME
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix YouTube plugin URLs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct  3 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.26.3-6
- Fix YouTube plugin URLs (#521725)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #521725 - totem-youtube plugin doesn't work
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521725
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From mschwendt at gmail.com  Tue Oct  6 13:21:06 2009
From: mschwendt at gmail.com (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:21:06 -0000
Subject: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 updates-testing - 2009-10-06
Message-ID: <20091006132106.5891.78502@faldor.intranet>

======================================================================
The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
======================================================================

Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name):

    asterisk
    libsvm
    oorexx
    rubygem-actionmailer
    rubygem-activerecord
    rubygem-activeresource
    rubygem-rails




======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-i386:

    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    rubygem-actionmailer-2.3.2-1.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(actionpack) = 0:2.3.2
    rubygem-activerecord-2.3.2-1.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(activesupport) = 0:2.3.2
    rubygem-activeresource-2.3.2-1.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(activesupport) = 0:2.3.2


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc:

    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    rubygem-actionmailer-2.3.2-1.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(actionpack) = 0:2.3.2
    rubygem-activerecord-2.3.2-1.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(activesupport) = 0:2.3.2
    rubygem-activeresource-2.3.2-1.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(activesupport) = 0:2.3.2


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc64:

    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    rubygem-actionmailer-2.3.2-1.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(actionpack) = 0:2.3.2
    rubygem-activerecord-2.3.2-1.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(activesupport) = 0:2.3.2
    rubygem-activeresource-2.3.2-1.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(activesupport) = 0:2.3.2


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-x86_64:

    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexx.so.3
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexxapi.so.3
    rubygem-actionmailer-2.3.2-1.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(actionpack) = 0:2.3.2
    rubygem-activerecord-2.3.2-1.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(activesupport) = 0:2.3.2
    rubygem-activeresource-2.3.2-1.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(activesupport) = 0:2.3.2


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-i386:

    rubygem-rails-2.3.2-3.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(actionpack) = 0:2.3.2
    rubygem-rails-2.3.2-3.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(activesupport) = 0:2.3.2


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc:

    rubygem-rails-2.3.2-3.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(actionpack) = 0:2.3.2
    rubygem-rails-2.3.2-3.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(activesupport) = 0:2.3.2


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc64:

    rubygem-rails-2.3.2-3.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(actionpack) = 0:2.3.2
    rubygem-rails-2.3.2-3.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(activesupport) = 0:2.3.2


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-x86_64:

    rubygem-rails-2.3.2-3.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(actionpack) = 0:2.3.2
    rubygem-rails-2.3.2-3.fc11.noarch  requires  rubygem(activesupport) = 0:2.3.2



From rjune at bravegnuworld.com  Tue Oct  6 14:49:49 2009
From: rjune at bravegnuworld.com (Richard June)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:49:49 -0400
Subject: BugZappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-19-06
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Bug Triage Meeting
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
Tuesday 29 September 15:00 UTC (11 AM EST)

* Introduction

* Improving Triage Day
# tk009 wants to discuss ways to improve all aspects of the triage day
event.

* kernel triage update
#rjune discussing updates to triage

* standardize bug information pages
# Johann to discuss standardizing wiki pages
* Open Floor


See you there
rjune

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From idht4n at gmail.com  Tue Oct  6 15:03:14 2009
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:03:14 -0700
Subject: Xorg CPU usage question
Message-ID: 

I don't think think this is specific to rawhide, but it seems
maybe a bit worse in rawhide, so I'm asking on this list.
I have a gnome terminal running an app that prints a lot
of lines (perhaps 60 100 character lines per second).
This causes Xorg to use about 50% of my CPU as
reported by top, and X responsiveness is really bad.

I'm running the vesa driver due to this problem:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504048

So maybe not running a driver optimized for my hardware
is part of the problem.

But it seems worse than I would expect or than I have
seen doing similar things on the same hardware in
older fedora releases.  And the interesting thing is that
the Xorg CPU usage doesn't change much if I minimize
the gnome terminal... I would naively expect that X
would not consume much CPU printing lines to a minimized
terminal.  And in fact, if I do the same thing in an xterm,
the Xorg CPU load does go way down when I minimize
the xterm window.  Why does a gnome terminal make Xorg
suck more CPU printing to a minimized window than an
xterm does?

Thanks,

           David


PS - Here's a little test app that demonstrates the problem
on my system:

#include 
#include 

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
  struct timespec ts;
  ts.tv_sec = 0;
  ts.tv_nsec = 1e9/60;

  while (1) {
    nanosleep(&ts, NULL);
    printf("  1234    14327.8 xyzabc     blah    3    0.00000000
0.00000000   0.00   0.00  0.00    0.00  0.00\n");
  }

}



From kparal at redhat.com  Tue Oct  6 15:08:31 2009
From: kparal at redhat.com (Kamil Paral)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:08:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Xorg CPU usage question
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <454975372.1284341254841711475.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

----- "David L"  wrote:

> I don't think think this is specific to rawhide, but it seems
> maybe a bit worse in rawhide, so I'm asking on this list.
> I have a gnome terminal running an app that prints a lot
> of lines (perhaps 60 100 character lines per second).
> This causes Xorg to use about 50% of my CPU as
> reported by top, and X responsiveness is really bad.

Hi, have you tried:
1. disable transparent background in gnome-terminal
2. disable font aliasing in appearance settings

Is there some noticeable difference?



From idht4n at gmail.com  Tue Oct  6 15:23:06 2009
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:23:06 -0700
Subject: Xorg CPU usage question
In-Reply-To: <454975372.1284341254841711475.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: 
	<454975372.1284341254841711475.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Kamil Paral wrote:
> ----- "David L" wrote:
>
>> I don't think think this is specific to rawhide, but it seems
>> maybe a bit worse in rawhide, so I'm asking on this list.
>> I have a gnome terminal running an app that prints a lot
>> of lines (perhaps 60 100 character lines per second).
>> This causes Xorg to use about 50% of my CPU as
>> reported by top, and X responsiveness is really bad.
>
> Hi, have you tried:
> 1. disable transparent background in gnome-terminal
That was already disabled.
> 2. disable font aliasing in appearance settings
>

I didn't see a font aliasing option:

appearance preferences ->fonts has these settings:

application font: sans
document font: sans
desktop font: sans
window title font: sans bold
fixed width font: monospace


Rendering:
Monochrome
Best shapes (selected)
Best contrast
Subpixel smoothing

Smoothing:
None (I tried this and it didn't help)
Grayscale (selected)
Subpixel

Hinting:
None
Slight
Medium (selected)
Full

Subpixel order:
RGB (selected)
BGR
VRGB
VBGR


Cheers...

                 David



From kparal at redhat.com  Tue Oct  6 15:50:45 2009
From: kparal at redhat.com (Kamil Paral)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:50:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Xorg CPU usage question
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <1665731068.1290061254844245611.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

----- "David L"  wrote:

> I didn't see a font aliasing option:
> 
> appearance preferences ->fonts has these settings:
> 
> Rendering:
> Monochrome
> Best shapes (selected)
> Best contrast
> Subpixel smoothing

Select Monochrome (I know, it will look ugly. But I have seen reports
of font antialiasing slowing down gnome-terminal a lot).



From idht4n at gmail.com  Tue Oct  6 16:01:16 2009
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:01:16 -0700
Subject: Xorg CPU usage question
In-Reply-To: <1665731068.1290061254844245611.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: 
	<1665731068.1290061254844245611.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Kamil Paral  wrote:
> ----- "David L"  wrote:
>
>> I didn't see a font aliasing option:
>>
>> appearance preferences ->fonts has these settings:
>>
>> Rendering:
>> Monochrome
>> Best shapes (selected)
>> Best contrast
>> Subpixel smoothing
>
> Select Monochrome (I know, it will look ugly. But I have seen reports
> of font antialiasing slowing down gnome-terminal a lot).
>

That didn't help.  But it did make it look ugly.  ;)

Cheers...

        David



From ajax at redhat.com  Tue Oct  6 17:27:45 2009
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:27:45 -0400
Subject: Xorg CPU usage question
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1254850065.11711.175.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 08:03 -0700, David L wrote:
> I don't think think this is specific to rawhide, but it seems
> maybe a bit worse in rawhide, so I'm asking on this list.
> I have a gnome terminal running an app that prints a lot
> of lines (perhaps 60 100 character lines per second).
> This causes Xorg to use about 50% of my CPU as
> reported by top, and X responsiveness is really bad.
> 
> I'm running the vesa driver due to this problem:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504048
> 
> So maybe not running a driver optimized for my hardware
> is part of the problem.

Yes, it's almost all of the problem in fact.

> But it seems worse than I would expect or than I have
> seen doing similar things on the same hardware in
> older fedora releases.  And the interesting thing is that
> the Xorg CPU usage doesn't change much if I minimize
> the gnome terminal... I would naively expect that X
> would not consume much CPU printing lines to a minimized
> terminal.  And in fact, if I do the same thing in an xterm,
> the Xorg CPU load does go way down when I minimize
> the xterm window.  Why does a gnome terminal make Xorg
> suck more CPU printing to a minimized window than an
> xterm does?

gnome-terminal renders to an offscreen pixmap and then blits from that
to the window.  xterm renders directly to the window.  If the window is
withdrawn, then window rendering is skipped, but pixmap rendering is
never skipped.  Also, gnome-terminal uses antialiased fonts, which
require alpha blending on the edges, which is a bit more CPU intensive
than xterm's aliased fonts.

g-t (vte actually) could reasonably skip rendering to the backing pixmap
if the window is minimized, and I thought it did at one point.

However, X is just an app like any other.  If you have performance
problems, bust out the profiler and figure out where the time is going.

- ajax
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From idht4n at gmail.com  Tue Oct  6 19:06:24 2009
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:06:24 -0700
Subject: Xorg CPU usage question
In-Reply-To: <1254850065.11711.175.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: 
	<1254850065.11711.175.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 08:03 -0700, David L wrote:
>> I don't think think this is specific to rawhide, but it seems
>> maybe a bit worse in rawhide, so I'm asking on this list.
>> I have a gnome terminal running an app that prints a lot
>> of lines (perhaps 60 100 character lines per second).
>> This causes Xorg to use about 50% of my CPU as
>> reported by top, and X responsiveness is really bad.
>>
>> I'm running the vesa driver due to this problem:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504048
>>
>> So maybe not running a driver optimized for my hardware
>> is part of the problem.
>
> Yes, it's almost all of the problem in fact.

Well, I just tried the intel driver using up to date rawhide
and the problem is even worse (60% CPU usage to
scroll 60 lines per sec... that's 28 million CPU clock cycles
per line printed).  If I reduce the window size to one line, the
CPU load goes down to about 30%, or 14 million clock
cycles per line or ~140,000 clock cycles per character
printed.  Something ain't right.

This was with no xorg.conf which uses the intel driver with
default settings I guess.

Cheers...

              David



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct  6 20:13:14 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:13:14 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091006 changes
Message-ID: <20091006201314.GA26653@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Tue Oct  6 06:15:15 UTC 2009










Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



New package pure
        A term-rewriting functional programming language
Removed package clutter-cairomm
Updated Packages:

DeviceKit-disks-007-4.fc12
--------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 David Zeuthen  - 007-2.fc12
- Actually inhibit the daemon (#527091)

* Mon Oct 05 2009 David Zeuthen  - 007-3.fc12
- Rebuild

* Mon Oct 05 2009 David Zeuthen  - 007-4.fc12
- Rebuild


anaconda-12.33-1.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 David Cantrell  - 12.33-1
- Remove an errant popd. Probably cut/paste error. (jkeating)
- Only add the .img file to .treeinfo if it exists. (jkeating)
- Make the netboot dir before trying to use it (jkeating)
- Fix existing size calculation for NTFS (#520627) (dcantrell)
- Write label to filesystem if we have one set (#526226, #526242) (dcantrell)
- Add wget to the initrd, which is required for rhts. (clumens)
- Fix the check for no /boot request on PPC yet again (#526843). (clumens)
- Surround the stage2= parameter in quotes for RHEL (#526863). (clumens)
- Stop dragging mkinitrd into the install (hdegoede)
- Force interface up before checking link status (#525071). (dcantrell)
- Don't try to do format handling on drives without media (#523467)
  (hdegoede)
- Wait for mdraid arrays to become clean before reboot / halt (hdegoede)
- Stop /lib/udev/rules.d/65-md-incremental.rules from messing with mdraid
  sets (hdegoede)


at-spi-1.28.0-3.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1.28.0-3
- Fix an oversight in the previous patch that caused
  registryd to slow down logout by ~10 seconds


bluez-4.55-1.fc12
-----------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Bastien Nocera  4.55-1
- Update to 4.55


brasero-2.28.1-1.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1, fixes a number of crashes and other serious bugs:
 - Fix a crash when we try to download a missing gstreamer plugin through PK
 - Don't fail if a drive cannot be checksumed after a burn
 - Fix a data corruption when libisofs was used for a dummy session
 - Fix #596625: brasero crashed with SIGSEGV in brasero_track_data_cfg_add
 - Fix progress reporting
 ...


control-center-2.28.0-14.fc12
-----------------------------

dcbd-0.9.15-5.fc12
------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Jan Zeleny  - 0.9.15-5
- replaced the last patch, which was not fully functional, with
  the new one


dnsmasq-2.48-4.fc12
-------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 2.48-4
- Fix multiple TFTP server vulnerabilities (CVE-2009-2957, CVE-2009-2958)

* Wed Aug 12 2009 Ville Skytt?  - 2.48-3
- Use lzma compressed upstream tarball.


fedora-release-11.92-1
----------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Jesse Keating  - 11.92-1
- Bump for 12-Beta


gnome-disk-utility-2.28.0-4.fc12
--------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-4.fc12
- Incorporate fixes for translation issues from the stable upstream branch


gnome-keyring-2.28.0-2.fc12
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-2
- Avoid a 10 second delay at logout


gnome-terminal-2.28.0-2.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-2
- Fix a small memory leak


gpxe-0.9.7-6.fc12
-----------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Matt Domsch  - 0.9.7-6
- move rtl8029 from -roms to -roms-qemu for qemu ne2k_pci NIC (BZ 526776)


grsync-0.9.2-1.fc12
-------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.9.2-1
- new upstream release (fixes #524169)


gstreamer-0.10.25-1.fc12
------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.25-1
- Update to 0.10.25


gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-1.fc12
-------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.25-1
- Update to 0.10.25


libcap-ng-0.6.2-2.fc12
----------------------
* Sat Oct 03 2009 Steve Grubb  0.6.2-2
- Apply patch correcting pscap and netcap acct detection


libxklavier-4.0-5.fc12
----------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 4.0-5
- Handle BadDrawable errors gracefully


mcelog-0.9pre1-0.1.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 1:0.9pre1-0.1
- Update to 0.9pre1
- Update URL
- Add patch to update mcelog kernel record length (bug #507026)


mdadm-3.0.2-1.fc12
------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Hans de Goede  - 3.0.2-1
- New upstream release 3.0.2
- Add a patch fixing mdadm --detail -export segfaults (bz526761, bz523862)
- Add a patch making mdmon store its state under /dev/.mdadm for initrd
  mdmon, rootfs mdmon handover
- Restart mdmon from initscript (when running) for rootfs mdmon handover


mlocate-0.22.2-1.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Miloslav Trma?  - 0.22.2-1
- Update to mlocate-0.22.2


nautilus-open-terminal-0.17-3.fc12
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 0.17-2
- Plug a small leak


python-virtinst-0.500.0-5.fc12
------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Cole Robinson  - 0.500.0-5.fc12
- Update translations (bz 493795)


system-config-audit-0.4.13-1.fc12
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Miloslav Trma?  - 0.4.13-1
- Update to system-config-audit-0.4.13.


telepathy-gabble-0.8.5-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Brian Pepple  - 0.8.5-1
- Update to 0.8.5.

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Brian Pepple  - 0.8.4-1
- Update to 0.8.4.


usermode-1.102-1.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Miloslav Trma?  - 1.102-1
- Update to usermode-1.102


util-linux-ng-2.16-10.2.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Karel Zak  2.16-10.2
- fix #519237 - bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device

* Fri Oct 02 2009 Karel Zak  2.16-10.1
- #514413 - Extra spaces at the end of CD mount point


vbetool-1.2.2-1.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Dave Airlie  1.2.2-1
- update to 1.2.2 - fixes infinte loops on s/r (#516694)


virt-manager-0.8.0-7.fc12
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Cole Robinson  - 0.8.0-7.fc12
- More translations (bz 493795)
- Don't allow creating a volume without a name (bz 526111)
- Don't allow volume allocation > capacity (bz 526077)
- Add tooltips for toolbar buttons (bz 524083)


xorg-x11-server-1.7.0-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Dave Airlie  1.7.0-1
- rebase to 1.7.0 upstream release - were 99% this already


Summary:
Added Packages: 1
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 30



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  6 20:14:40 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:14:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: wlan0: disassociating by local choice (reason=3)
Message-ID: <50582.41264.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear all,

Every time I try to connect to internet via wireless, I get the message on the title.   I want to update but can't I have to switch to wired connection to actually get the updates.  Since I do not know against which component to file a bug against, I want to ask for advice.  I saw the following running a dmesg:

CPU0 attaching NULL sched-domain.
CPU1 attaching NULL sched-domain.
CPU0 attaching sched-domain:
 domain 0: span 0-1 level SIBLING
  groups: 0 1
CPU1 attaching sched-domain:
 domain 0: span 0-1 level SIBLING
  groups: 1 0
type=1400 audit(1254839778.329:7): avc:  denied  { search } for  pid=1495 comm="polkitd" name="root" dev=dm-0 ino=277 scontext=system_u:system_r:policykit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t:s0 tclass=dir
fuse init (API version 7.12)
SELinux: initialized (dev fuse, type fuse), uses genfs_contexts
ATL1E 0000:03:00.0: ATL1E: eth0 NIC Link is Up<100 Mbps Full Duplex>
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
------------[ cut here ]------------
WARNING: at lib/dma-debug.c:816 check_unmap+0x38e/0x578() (Not tainted)
Hardware name: Aspire one      
ATL1E 0000:03:00.0: DMA-API: device driver frees DMA memory with wrong function [device address=0x000000002fd09062] [size=90 bytes] [mapped as single] [unmapped as page]
Modules linked in: fuse nfsd lockd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss exportfs sunrpc ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables ipv6 cpufreq_ondemand acpi_cpufreq dm_multipath uinput arc4 snd_hda_codec_realtek ecb snd_hda_intel ath5k snd_hda_codec mac80211 uvcvideo ath videodev snd_hwdep v4l1_compat cfg80211 iTCO_wdt snd_pcm iTCO_vendor_support i2c_i801 snd_timer rfkill atl1e joydev wmi snd soundcore snd_page_alloc i915 drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core video output [last unloaded: microcode]
Pid: 1241, comm: NetworkManager Not tainted 2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686 #1
Call Trace:
 [] warn_slowpath_common+0x7b/0xa3
 [] ? check_unmap+0x38e/0x578
 [] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x34/0x48
 [] check_unmap+0x38e/0x578
 [] debug_dma_unmap_page+0x62/0x7b
 [] pci_unmap_page.clone.3+0x53/0x6e [atl1e]
 [] atl1e_intr+0x2e0/0x3b6 [atl1e]
 [] ? handle_edge_irq+0xb3/0x111
 [] handle_IRQ_event+0x56/0x112
 [] handle_edge_irq+0xbc/0x111
 [] handle_irq+0x50/0x6c
 [] do_IRQ+0x52/0xb7
 [] common_interrupt+0x35/0x3c
---[ end trace 3e32d8d7ae6c62fe ]---
Mapped at:
 [] debug_dma_map_page+0x6b/0x13b
 [] pci_map_single.clone.2+0x72/0x8d [atl1e]
 [] atl1e_xmit_frame+0x622/0x8b5 [atl1e]
 [] dev_hard_start_xmit+0x230/0x2c9
 [] __qdisc_run+0xd6/0x1cb
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
ATL1E 0000:03:00.0: ATL1E: eth0 NIC Link is Down
ATL1E 0000:03:00.0: ATL1E: eth0 NIC Link is Up<100 Mbps Full Duplex>
ATL1E 0000:03:00.0: ATL1E: eth0 NIC Link is Down
ATL1E 0000:03:00.0: ATL1E: eth0 NIC Link is Up<100 Mbps Full Duplex>
ATL1E 0000:03:00.0: ATL1E: eth0 NIC Link is Down
wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:1c:58:05:e7:a0
wlan0: authenticated
wlan0: associate with AP 00:1c:58:05:e7:a0
wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:1c:58:05:e7:a0 (capab=0x431 status=0 aid=217)
wlan0: associated
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready

wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:1c:58:05:e7:a0
wlan0: authenticated
wlan0: associate with AP 00:1c:58:05:e7:a0
wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:1c:58:05:e7:a0 (capab=0x431 status=0 aid=220)
wlan0: associated
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready
wlan0: no IPv6 routers present
wlan0: disassociating by local choice (reason=3)
wlan0: deauthenticated (Reason: 2)
wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:1c:58:05:e7:a0
wlan0: authenticated
wlan0: associate with AP 00:1c:58:05:e7:a0
wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:1c:58:05:e7:a0 (capab=0x431 status=0 aid=221)
wlan0: associated

Should I file against NetworkManager and let the maintainers of that package figure it out?

I am running wireless on another laptop and I have not encountered this problem.  Thanks in advance for advice/suggestions.  

Regards,

Antonio


      



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct  6 20:29:08 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:29:08 -0400
Subject: [Test-Announce] 2009-10-08 - Fedora Test Day - RAID
Message-ID: <1254860948.5597.188.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Greetings folks,

This week features another test day focused on the installer.  The topic
is all things RAID.  The anaconda-devel team has asked for help testing
software RAID, BIOS RAID and hardware RAID.  While this is specific to
installation, I certainly welcome testing using mdadm tools on already
installed systems or even general live image testing.

Included in the 14 bugs found during last weeks installer test day were
3 additions to the F12Beta blocker list [1].  Thanks again to all who
participated.  I hope we can give similar attention to RAID this week.
If you have support for BIOS or hardware RAID, please do stop by on irc.
Your help is needed!

The fun starts this this Thursday, October 8 2009 in #fedora-test-day on
irc.freenode.net.  If you'd like to get started early, a live image is
already available along with a list of recommended test scenarios.  

Stay tuned for more details at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-08_RAID.

Thanks,
James

[1]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F12Beta&hide_resolved=1

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From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct  7 03:15:59 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:15:59 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091007031559.6181410F892@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    arora-0.10.1-1.fc11
    dovecot-1.2.6-1.fc11
    ecryptfs-utils-81-1.fc11
    etherboot-5.4.4-17.fc11
    gpxe-0.9.7-6.fc11
    grsync-0.9.2-1.fc11
    gstreamer-0.10.25-1.fc11
    gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-1.fc11
    ibus-table-cangjie-1.2.0.20090717-2.fc11
    ibus-table-wubi-1.2.0.20090715-4.fc11
    jmol-11.8-1.11581svn.fc11
    klavaro-1.3.3-1.fc11
    ncrack-0.01-0.7.ALPHA.fc11
    python-virtinst-0.400.3-9.fc11
    qemu-0.10.6-7.fc11
    smartmontools-5.38-14.fc11
    totem-pl-parser-2.26.3-1.fc11
    xournal-0.4.5-1.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 arora-0.10.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10293)
 A cross platform web browser
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 0.10.1.    Changelog (major issues)  - fixes SSL handshake
failure  - fixes crashing when using privacy mode    For full Changelog see
http://arorabrowser.blogspot.com/2009/10/arora-0101.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.1-1
- Update to 0.10.1
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.0-2
- Fedorahome patch rebased
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.0-1
- Update to 0.10.0
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.9.0-2
- add icon/mime scriptlets
- don't own %{_mandir}/man1
- BR: qt4-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dovecot-1.2.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10294)
 Secure imap and pop3 server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Added authtest utility for doing passdb and userdb lookups.  - login:
ssl_security string now also shows the used compression.  - quota: Don't crash
with non-Maildir++ quota backend.  - imap proxy: Fixed crashing with some
specific password characters.  - fixed broken dovecot --exec-mail.  - Avoid
assert-crashing when two processes try to create index at the same time
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:1.2.6-1
- dovecot updated to 1.2.6
- Added authtest utility for doing passdb and userdb lookups.
- login: ssl_security string now also shows the used compression.
- quota: Don't crash with non-Maildir++ quota backend.
- imap proxy: Fixed crashing with some specific password characters.
- fixed broken dovecot --exec-mail.
- Avoid assert-crashing when two processes try to create index at the
  same time.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ecryptfs-utils-81-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10307)
 The eCryptfs mount helper and support libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

updated to v. 81
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 81-1
- updated to 81
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 etherboot-5.4.4-17.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10318)
 Etherboot collection of boot roms
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 5.4.4-17
- Include rtl8029 in etherboot-zroms-qemu (#526781)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526781 - Add rtl8209 to etherboot-zroms-kvm
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526781
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gpxe-0.9.7-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10300)
 A network boot loader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Move rtl8029 from -roms to -roms-qemu for qemu ne2k_pci NIC
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Matt Domsch  - 0.9.7-6
- move rtl8029 from -roms to -roms-qemu for qemu ne2k_pci NIC (BZ 526776)
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.9.7-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526776 - Add rtl8209 to gpxe-roms-qemu
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526776
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 grsync-0.9.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10304)
 A Gtk+ GUI for rsync
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update makes Grsync work with GTK >= 2.16.6 again.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.9.2-1
- new upstream release (fixes #524169)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524169 - Grsync hangs on start
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524169
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-0.10.25-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10311)
 GStreamer streaming media framework runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.25-1
- Update to 0.10.25
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #521276 - Something about jitter buffer makes VoIP over GStreamer useless (delay around 15 sec)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521276
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10311)
 GStreamer streaming media framework base plug-ins
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #521276 - Something about jitter buffer makes VoIP over GStreamer useless (delay around 15 sec)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521276
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-cangjie-1.2.0.20090717-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10302)
 CangJie table(s) for ibus-table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.2.0.20090717-2.fc11
- Rebuilt.
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.2.0.20090717-1.fc11
- Rebuilt for ibus 1.2.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-wubi-1.2.0.20090715-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10302)
 Wubi table(s) for ibus-table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.2.0.20090715-4.fc11
- Rebuilt.
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.2.0.20090715-3.fc11
- Rebuilt.
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.2.0.20090715-2.fc11
- Rebuilt.
* Thu Oct  1 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.2.0.20090715-1.fc11
- Rebuilt with IBus 1.2.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jmol-11.8-1.11581svn.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10305)
 An open-source Java viewer for chemical structures in 3D
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 11.8 series.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 11.8-1.11581
- Switch back to tar.bz2 source since xz doesn't work in EL-5.
- Update to svn revision 11581.
* Tue Sep 22 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 11.8-1.11564
- Update to 11.8 series, svn revision 11564.
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 11.6-12.11223svn
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 klavaro-1.3.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10298)
 Typing tutor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Mon Oct 05 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.3.3-1  -
Updated to new upstream version 1.3.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.3.3-1
- Updated to new upstream version 1.3.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ncrack-0.01-0.7.ALPHA.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10297)
 High-speed network auth cracking tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

initial ncrack package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #523199 - Review Request: ncrack -  high-speed network authentication cracking tool
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523199
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-virtinst-0.400.3-9.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-9548)
 Python modules and utilities for installing virtual machines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix parse error when looking for default bridge (bz 506319) Use virtio for SLES
guests (bz 505317) Don't erroneously set limit for amount of virtio devices (bz
499654)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Sep 13 2009 Cole Robinson  - 0.400.3-9.fc11
- Fix parse error when looking for default bridge (bz 506319)
- Use virtio for SLES guests (bz 505317)
- Don't erroneously set limit for amount of virtio devices (bz 499654)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #506319 - virtinst errors finding default bridge: upsets virt-manager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506319
  [ 2 ] Bug #505317 - virtinst: make SLES11 guests use virtio by default
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505317
  [ 3 ] Bug #499654 - failure to add more than 16 virtio-blk devices in virt-manager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499654
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qemu-0.10.6-7.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10314)
 QEMU is a FAST! processor emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 2:0.10.6-7
- Use rtl8029 PXE rom for ne2k_pci, not ne (#526243)
- Also, replace the etherboot-zroms-kvm pkg requires with file-based requires
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526243 - Guest PXE booting doesn't work when using ne2k_pci NIC model
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526243
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 smartmontools-5.38-14.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10315)
 Tools for monitoring SMART capable hard disks
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- fix smartd for 3ware controllers  - fix mail notifications in smartd
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Michal Hlaivnka  - 1:5.38-14
- make capabilities optional
- fix capabilities for 3ware contollers (#526626)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526626 - smartmontools-5.38-13 breaks 3ware controller monitoring
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526626
  [ 2 ] Bug #525820 - smartd cannot send warning email because of missing privileges - smartd actually useless!
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525820
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 totem-pl-parser-2.26.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10291)
 Totem Playlist Parser library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Don't load text files into the playlist and fix loading DVD ISOs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.26.3-1
- Update to 2.26.3
- Fixes DVD ISOs detection in Totem (#514425)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #514425 - totem won't play the DVD ISO image file directly
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514425
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xournal-0.4.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10303)
 Notetaking, sketching, PDF annotation and general journal
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This release includes UI improvements and addresses compatibility issues with
GTK+ 2.16/2.17. It also adds internationalization support and uses poppler
instead of pdftoppm to render PDFs and gtk-print instead of libgnomeprint for
printing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr  0.4.5-1
- New upstream release
- Removed xournal.xml, xournal.desktop and x-xoj.desktop sources as they are now in upstream source
- Updated gtk2 devel requirements to 2.10
- Added poppler-glib-devel to BR
- Added gettext BR
- Updated summary
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.4.2.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct  7 03:15:59 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:15:59 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091007031559.667D910F8A3@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    arora-0.10.1-1.fc10
    ecryptfs-utils-81-1.fc10
    jmol-11.8-1.11581svn.fc10
    xournal-0.4.5-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 arora-0.10.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10313)
 A cross platform web browser
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to version 0.10.1.    Changelog (major issues)  - fixes SSL handshake
failure  - fixes crashing when using privacy mode    For full Changelog see
http://arorabrowser.blogspot.com/2009/10/arora-0101.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.1-1
- Update to 0.10.1
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.0-2
- Fedorahome patch rebased
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.0-1
- Update to 0.10.0
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.9.0-2
- add icon/mime scriptlets
- don't own %{_mandir}/man1
- BR: qt4-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ecryptfs-utils-81-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10308)
 The eCryptfs mount helper and support libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

updated to v. 81
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 81-1
- updated to 81
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jmol-11.8-1.11581svn.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10299)
 An open-source Java viewer for chemical structures in 3D
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 11.8 series.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 11.8-1.11581
- Switch back to tar.bz2 source since xz doesn't work in EL-5.
- Update to svn revision 11581.
* Tue Sep 22 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 11.8-1.11564
- Update to 11.8 series, svn revision 11564.
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 11.6-12.11223svn
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xournal-0.4.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10295)
 Notetaking, sketching, PDF annotation and general journal
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This release includes UI improvements and addresses compatibility issues with
GTK+ 2.16/2.17. It also adds internationalization support and uses poppler
instead of pdftoppm to render PDFs and gtk-print instead of libgnomeprint for
printing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr  0.4.5-1
- New upstream release
- Removed xournal.xml, xournal.desktop and x-xoj.desktop sources as they are now in upstream source
- Updated gtk2 devel requirements to 2.10
- Added poppler-glib-devel to BR
- Added gettext BR
- Updated summary
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.4.2.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.4.2.1-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From kmaraas at broadpark.no  Wed Oct  7 05:52:54 2009
From: kmaraas at broadpark.no (Kjartan Maraas)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:52:54 +0200
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254503720.2269.69.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254501495.2163.8.camel@localhost>
	<1254502420.2269.66.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254503103.2163.12.camel@localhost>
	<1254503720.2269.69.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1254894774.1935.1.camel@localhost>

fr., 02.10.2009 kl. 10.15 -0700, skrev Adam Williamson:
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 19:05 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> > fr., 02.10.2009 kl. 09.53 -0700, skrev Adam Williamson:
> > > On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:38 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > - Machine freezes from time to time. Possibly related to intel graphics
> > > > > > xorg driver again. Filed upstream bug here:
> > > > > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23969
> > > > > 
> > > > > ditto with #2, depends how hardware-dependent it is.
> > > > > 

[snip]

> You can use the -logverbose parameter for X (see man Xorg). Not sure if
> there's a way to increase the verbosity of the intel driver kernel
> module, though.
> 

I've managed to find another clue wrt the hangs I've seen now and that
is that it never happens when the laptop is running on power and thus
has something to do with entering deeper C-states and getting stuck
there.

I've updated the upstream bugreport with output from intel_gpu_dump on
power and on battery.

Cheers
Kjartan




From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct  7 14:25:57 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:25:57 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091007 changes
Message-ID: <20091007142557.GA2297@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Wed Oct  7 06:15:12 UTC 2009










Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



New package fped
        A footprint editor used by openmoko developers
New package geda-gaf
        Design Automation toolkit for electronic design
New package oflb-smonohand-fonts
        A handwritten monospace font
New package windowlab
        Small and Simple Amiga-like Window Manager
Updated Packages:

PackageKit-0.5.3-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Richard Hughes   - 0.5.3-1
- Update to 0.5.3.
- Fix double free in pk-gstreamer-install which causes a crash. Fixes #526600
- Exit pk-command-not-found with 127 when we have not run a program. Fixes #527044
- Fix crash in notification daemon under some conditions due to non-resident
  GTK module.
- Don't explicitly download the file lists when using pk-command-not-found

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Richard Hughes   - 0.5.3-0.2.20090928git
- Do not build smart support on RHEL.

* Mon Sep 28 2009 Richard Hughes   - 0.5.3-0.1.20090928git
- Update to a newer git snapshot from the 0.5.x series.
- Fixes command-not-found functionality
- Lots of updated translations
- Lots of updates and bugfixes to the experimental glib2 library


R-nws-2.0.0.3-1.fc12
--------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 2.0.0.3-1
- update to 2.0.0.3


Terminal-0.4.2-1.fc12
---------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.4.2-1
- Update to 0.4.2
- Update icon cache scriptlets


asymptote-1.88-1.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 1.88-1
- update to 1.88


control-center-2.28.0-15.fc12
-----------------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-15
- Fix a crash in the about-me capplet (#525590)


crypto-utils-2.4.1-24
---------------------
* Sun Oct 04 2009 Elio Maldonado - 2.4.1-24
- Retagging for a Fedora-12 build (#526720)

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Elio Maldonado - 2.4.1-23
- Fix genkey to produce CSRs, certs, and key in ascii PEM format (#526720)


digikam-1.0.0-0.7.beta5.fc12
----------------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.0-0.7.beta5
- digikam-1.0.0-beta5
- tweak marble deps (again)


dracut-002-12.git8f397a9b.fc12
------------------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Harald Hoyer  002-12
- add missing loginit helper
- corrected dracut manpage


gdm-2.28.0-6.fc12
-----------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1:2.28.4-6
- Fix the autostart file for at-spi-registryd

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1:2.28.4-5
- Handle keyboard layout variants


gnome-utils-2.28.0-2.fc12
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1:2.28.0-2
- Move the usermode dep to the gnome-system-log package (#527295)


gtk2-2.18.2-1.fc12
------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.2-1
- Update to 2.18.2


hyphen-kn-0.20090924-1.fc12
---------------------------
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Parag  - 0.20090924-1
- update to 20090924


hyphen-pa-0.20090924-1.fc12
---------------------------
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Parag  - 0.20090924-1
- update to 20090924


libbonobo-2.24.2-2.fc12
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.24.2-2
- Fix a use-after-free in the mime code


libburn-0.7.0-1.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Denis Leroy  - 0.7.0-1
- Update to upstream 0.7.0
- Fixed binary installation
- Removed rpath


libvirt-0.7.1-10.fc12
---------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 0.7.1-9
- Change logrotate config to weekly (#526769)

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 0.7.1-10
- Create /var/log/libvirt/{lxc,uml} dirs for logrotate
- Make libvirt-python dependon on libvirt-client
- Sync misc minor changes from upstream spec


ltsp-5.1.91-1.fc12
------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Warren Togami  - 5.1.91-1
- 5.1.91 fixes install of chroots


nss-3.12.4-14.fc12
------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Elio Maldonado - 3.12.4-14
- Fix bug where user was prompted for a password when listing keys on an empty system database (#527048)
- Fix setup-nsssysinit to handle more general flags formats (#527051)


nwsclient-1.6.4-1.fc12
----------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 1.6.4-1
- update to 1.6.4


nwsserver-2.0.0-1.fc12
----------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  2.0.0-1
- update to 2.0.0


plymouth-0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.3.fc12
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Ray Strode  0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.2
- Fix --show-splash after --hide-splash (bug 527299)

* Mon Oct 05 2009 Ray Strode  0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.3
- Fix crasher in text plugin after password prompt (bug 526652)
- Actually apply the patch mentioned in 2009.29.09.2


qemu-0.11.0-4.fc12
------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 2:0.11.0-4
- Use rtl8029 PXE rom for ne2k_pci, not ne (#526777)
- Also, replace the gpxe-roms-qemu pkg requires with file-based requires


readahead-1.5.3-1.fc12
----------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Harald Hoyer  1.5.3-1
- fix readhead for new libaudit (bug #523400)
- don't leak file descriptors (bug #525893)
- also collect openat() calls
- ignore files > 10MB


rhythmbox-0.12.5-4.fc12
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Matthias Clasen  0.12.5-4
- Make burning with brasero actually work, somewhat


shared-mime-info-0.70-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.70-1
- Update to 0.70


toped-0.9.5-1.fc12
------------------
* Sat Oct 03 2009 Chitlesh Goorah  - 0.9.5-0.1
- 0.9.5 test release

* Sat Oct 03 2009 Chitlesh Goorah  - 0.9.5-1
- 0.9.5 stable release


totem-2.28.1-2.fc12
-------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-2
- Make video burning work again


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.13.0-0.7.20091006git457646d73.fc12
-----------------------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Dave Airlie  6.13.0-0.7.20091006git457646d73
- resnapshot with VT switch fixes and mixed issue was in server which is fixed


xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.9.0-2.fc12
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Kristian H?gsberg  - 2.9.0-2
- Rebase to 2.9.0.
- Need autoreconf also when patching a release (to pick up -ludev)


Summary:
Added Packages: 4
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 29



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct  7 15:10:01 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:10:01 +0000
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
Message-ID: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>

Subject says it all.. 

In short instead of individuals hacking how to debug wiki pages left and right and in their own style targeted different sets of audiences.

We would use https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:How_to_debug as basis and target the writing of those pages to a low-knowledge audience .

If accepted all existing How_to_debug_component pages will be rewritten and new how_to_debug_pages will be written using the Template:How_to_debug as basis.

To give you example I took component which has identical procedures in reporting/debugging except for it's name and created a page in the new style/way for comparison.  
( Note I did not write the Firefox page )

The old style/way... 

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Firefox_problems

The new and improve style/way.. 

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_Debug_Thunderbird ( Warning may contain some ken-lee english errors I have made.. )

A bit more complicated component in the new style/way

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Dracut_problems

If you feel like How_to_debug template should be designed/look differently dont hesitate to share your opinion on how to improve it. 

I also suggest we name those wiki pages how_to_debug_ as opposed how_to_debug__problems <--... 

JBG

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From tirloni at gmail.com  Wed Oct  7 15:49:43 2009
From: tirloni at gmail.com (Giovanni P. Tirloni)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0300
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
	How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
Message-ID: <835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>

On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:10 PM, J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:

> Subject says it all..
>
> In short instead of individuals hacking how to debug wiki pages left  
> and right and in their own style targeted different sets of audiences.

  Speaking of audiences, are we linking these How_to_debug_  
pages somewhere ? I'm trying to understand the path someone would  
follow to find these instructions after landing on the wiki.

>
> We would use https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:How_to_debug as  
> basis and target the writing of those pages to a low-knowledge  
> audience .
>
> If accepted all existing How_to_debug_component pages will be  
> rewritten and new how_to_debug_pages will be written using the  
> Template:How_to_debug as basis.
>
> To give you example I took component which has identical procedures  
> in reporting/debugging except for it's name and created a page in  
> the new style/way for comparison.
> ( Note I did not write the Firefox page )
>
> The old style/way...
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Firefox_problems
>
> The new and improve style/way..
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_Debug_Thunderbird ( Warning  
> may contain some ken-lee english errors I have made.. )
>
> A bit more complicated component in the new style/way
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Dracut_problems
>
> If you feel like How_to_debug template should be designed/look  
> differently dont hesitate to share your opinion on how to improve it.

  The template is very nice.

  Perhaps it'd be useful to have a link to the Bugzilla page in all  
How_to_debug_* pages.

>
> I also suggest we name those wiki pages how_to_debug_ as  
> opposed how_to_debug__problems <--...

  Agreed. It's kind of redundant and would make page names shorter.


Giovanni P. Tirloni
tirloni at gmail.com







From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct  7 15:58:56 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:58:56 +0000
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout
 of	How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
	<835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ACCBAC0.3020902@hi.is>

On 10/07/2009 03:49 PM, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote:
> On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:10 PM, J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
>
>> Subject says it all..
>>
>> In short instead of individuals hacking how to debug wiki pages left
>> and right and in their own style targeted different sets of audiences.
>
>  Speaking of audiences, are we linking these How_to_debug_
> pages somewhere ? I'm trying to understand the path someone would
> follow to find these instructions after landing on the wiki.
>

On the components corresponding wiki page ( see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut for an example component page )

All ( new?) how_to_debug pages are in category debugging and category
how to see

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Debugging

and

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:How_to


>>
>> If you feel like How_to_debug template should be designed/look
>> differently dont hesitate to share your opinion on how to improve it.
>
>  The template is very nice.
>
>  Perhaps it'd be useful to have a link to the Bugzilla page in all
> How_to_debug_* pages.

Something that I think should belong on the components wiki page see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut#Reporting_Problems for an example

>
>>
>> I also suggest we name those wiki pages how_to_debug_ as
>> opposed how_to_debug__problems <--...
>
>  Agreed. It's kind of redundant and would make page names shorter.
>

JBG
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From beland at alum.mit.edu  Wed Oct  7 16:31:54 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:31:54 -0400
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <4ACCBAC0.3020902@hi.is>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
	<835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>
	<4ACCBAC0.3020902@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1254933114.2440.39.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

Rather than writing "how to use gdb" for every application, it would
reduce redundancy to link to a central how-to, unless there are
application-specific quirks.  For crashes, we already have:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces

General gdb tutorials exist elsewhere, and the man and info pages might
be good to point to, but I'm not sure there's a wiki page (or that this
would not be redundant).


I was imagining that people would be coming in through:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests

It might be a good idea to put a link at the top of each "How to" page
back to this page, saying, "If you need to file a bug, here's general
information on how to do that.  I've added suggested language to the
template page.


[[KernelBugTriage]] and [[Anaconda/BugReporting]] have some info that
probably belongs in [[BugZappers/How to Triage]] or [[Bugs and feature
requests]], and some how-to pages have extra material that doesn't fit
into the template.  I guess that sort of thing will just have to be
taken care of during the rewrite process.

-B.



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct  7 17:18:19 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:18:19 +0000
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1254933114.2440.39.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>	<835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>	<4ACCBAC0.3020902@hi.is>
	<1254933114.2440.39.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4ACCCD5B.6000701@hi.is>

On 10/07/2009 04:31 PM, Christopher Beland wrote:
> Rather than writing "how to use gdb" for every application, it would
> reduce redundancy to link to a central how-to, unless there are
> application-specific quirks.  For crashes, we already have:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces
>
>   

Not targeted at low-knowledge audience 
> General gdb tutorials exist elsewhere, and the man and info pages might
> be good to point to, but I'm not sure there's a wiki page (or that this
> would not be redundant).
>
>   

Why am I not surprised you said that...

Reporters on any knowledge-level need to be able to produce gdb if asked
for without having to read through stacks of man pages or the whole
internet for that matter... 

> I was imagining that people would be coming in through:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests
>
>   

I would "Image" maintainer or triager would be redirecting him to the
corresponding component "how to debug page" from bugzilla or he would be
coming directly from the component page itself.

Ask yourself this would you search for "Bugs_and_feature_requests" or
the "Component" in our wiki when your are going to file a report against
a certain component.

> It might be a good idea to put a link at the top of each "How to" page
> back to this page, saying, "If you need to file a bug, here's general
> information on how to do that.  I've added suggested language to the
> template page.
>
>
>   

I think that info should reside under #Reporting_Problems not
on the "How to debug component" page.

> [[KernelBugTriage]] and [[Anaconda/BugReporting]] have some info that
> probably belongs in [[BugZappers/How to Triage]] or [[Bugs and feature
> requests]], and some how-to pages have extra material that doesn't fit
> into the template.  I guess that sort of thing will just have to be
> taken care of during the rewrite process.
>   

Yup.

JBG
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From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Wed Oct  7 19:10:12 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:10:12 +0200
Subject: Problems with Eclipse
Message-ID: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Many eclipse dialogs are not working for me. For instance when I try to 
create a new python project, I can't get past naming the project. 
Neither the apply nor the finish button do anything. Similarly, for a c 
project I can't add arguments to the debug launch. Again apply and debug 
buttons don't do anything. I tried launching eclipse from the command 
line but there weren't any messages. Any ideas about what is happening? 
i686 architecture.



From schaiba at gmail.com  Wed Oct  7 19:06:55 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:06:55 +0300
Subject: Problems with Eclipse
In-Reply-To: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <1254942415.2269.3.camel@localhost>

On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 21:10 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
> Many eclipse dialogs are not working for me. For instance when I try to 
> create a new python project, I can't get past naming the project. 
> Neither the apply nor the finish button do anything. Similarly, for a c 
> project I can't add arguments to the debug launch. Again apply and debug 
> buttons don't do anything. I tried launching eclipse from the command 
> line but there weren't any messages. Any ideas about what is happening? 
> i686 architecture.
> 

F11? updates-testing? rawhide? java version? eclipse version? etc...



From overholt at redhat.com  Wed Oct  7 19:13:52 2009
From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:13:52 -0400
Subject: Problems with Eclipse
In-Reply-To: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <20091007191351.GJ2650@redhat.com>

* shmuel siegel  [2009-10-07 15:03]:
> Many eclipse dialogs are not working for me.

Perhaps:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=287307

I'll get a patch into rawhide ASAP.

Andrew



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Wed Oct  7 19:28:52 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:28:52 +0200
Subject: Problems with Eclipse
In-Reply-To: <1254942415.2269.3.camel@localhost>
References: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<1254942415.2269.3.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <4ACCEBF4.5080709@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Aioanei Rares wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 21:10 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
>   
>> Many eclipse dialogs are not working for me. For instance when I try to 
>> create a new python project, I can't get past naming the project. 
>> Neither the apply nor the finish button do anything. Similarly, for a c 
>> project I can't add arguments to the debug launch. Again apply and debug 
>> buttons don't do anything. I tried launching eclipse from the command 
>> line but there weren't any messages. Any ideas about what is happening? 
>> i686 architecture.
>>
>>     
>
> F11? updates-testing? rawhide? java version? eclipse version? etc...
>
>   
Sorry, I thought that i686 architecture implied rawhide.
I am using a current up to date rawhide. No special features.
from rpm -q
eclipse-platform-3.5.0-2.fc12.i686
java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-29.fc12.1686
java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-31.b16.fc12.1686

I don't know which java engine eclipse is using. Removing either java 
package also removes eclipse-platform



From overholt at redhat.com  Wed Oct  7 19:27:43 2009
From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:27:43 -0400
Subject: Problems with Eclipse
In-Reply-To: <4ACCEBF4.5080709@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<1254942415.2269.3.camel@localhost>
	<4ACCEBF4.5080709@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <20091007192742.GK2650@redhat.com>

* shmuel siegel  [2009-10-07 15:21]:
> I don't know which java engine eclipse is using.

It uses the one that alternatives selects.  Since OpenJDK has a higher
alternative weighting, it will be used.  java -version will also tell
you :)

Andrew



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Wed Oct  7 19:40:55 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:40:55 -0400
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <4ACCCD5B.6000701@hi.is>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
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	<1254933114.2440.39.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4ACCCD5B.6000701@hi.is>
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On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 17:18 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces 
> 
> Not targeted at low-knowledge audience 

Well, at least it's a starting point.  It might be best to put material
appropriate to novice users up front on that page (how to use Bug Buddy,
ABRT, etc.), while retaining advanced material farther down.

> > General gdb tutorials exist elsewhere, and the man and info pages might
> > be good to point to, but I'm not sure there's a wiki page (or that this
> > would not be redundant).
> >
> >   
> 
> Why am I not surprised you said that...
> 
> Reporters on any knowledge-level need to be able to produce gdb if asked
> for without having to read through stacks of man pages or the whole
> internet for that matter... 


> > I was imagining that people would be coming in through:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests
> >
> >   
> 
> I would "Image" maintainer or triager would be redirecting him to the
> corresponding component "how to debug page" from bugzilla or he would be
> coming directly from the component page itself.
> 
> Ask yourself this would you search for "Bugs_and_feature_requests" or
> the "Component" in our wiki when your are going to file a report against
> a certain component.

There are a number of pages (and people) that point to
Bugs_and_feature_requests as "general instructions on how to file bugs"
without knowing which component the bug concerns.  It's certainly very
likely many people will land on the page directly from a search engine.

> > It might be a good idea to put a link at the top of each "How to" page
> > back to this page, saying, "If you need to file a bug, here's general
> > information on how to do that.  I've added suggested language to the
> > template page.
> 
> I think that info should reside under #Reporting_Problems not
> on the "How to debug component" page.

A lot of components don't have homepages for which there is a Reporting
Problems section.  I'm not sure every component needs its own
homepage...

Perhaps you have a different scope in mind than what I am thinking?  So
far, we have both "Bug_info_" and "How_to_debug_"
pages.  I was assuming these were essentially the same thing by
different names.  After all, if you are doing a really good job at
diagnosing a bug, you employ debugging techniques.  At some point, the
debugging process is likely to be exhausted to the capacity of the
reader, and a bug report will need to be filed.  The
information-gathering techniques needed to file a thorough bug report
overlap with debugging techniques.  So I would expect the audience of
How_to_debug pages to range from people who are having problems with a
given component, who may want to either gather minimal information
necessary to file a useful bug report, or who may want to spend a lot of
time isolating the cause and perhaps even filing a patch themselves.

-B.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct  7 21:01:27 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:01:27 -0700
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1254944455.2440.72.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
	<835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>	<4ACCBAC0.3020902@hi.is>
	<1254933114.2440.39.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4ACCCD5B.6000701@hi.is>
	<1254944455.2440.72.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1254949287.2291.78.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 15:40 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:

Thanks to Johann for the idea and the template and everyone else for
running with the idea!

> On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 17:18 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces 
> > 
> > Not targeted at low-knowledge audience 
> 
> Well, at least it's a starting point.  It might be best to put material
> appropriate to novice users up front on that page (how to use Bug Buddy,
> ABRT, etc.), while retaining advanced material farther down.

Yes, I think Chris' general idea is correct, but Johann is correct that
we don't current have sufficiently good centralized info on standard
gdb / strace use. I think the best approach would be to add the
necessary stuff to the StackTraces page and then link to that from each
'how to debug' page, as Chris suggests. Johann, do you think you could
do a draft of this, or could you, Chris?

> > > General gdb tutorials exist elsewhere, and the man and info pages might
> > > be good to point to, but I'm not sure there's a wiki page (or that this
> > > would not be redundant).
> > 
> > Why am I not surprised you said that...
> > 
> > Reporters on any knowledge-level need to be able to produce gdb if asked
> > for without having to read through stacks of man pages or the whole
> > internet for that matter... 

Right, Johann is correct here. We need to have it documented in enough
detail that non-expert users can produce useful traces.

> > > I was imagining that people would be coming in through:
> > >
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests
> > >
> > >   
> > 
> > I would "Image" maintainer or triager would be redirecting him to the
> > corresponding component "how to debug page" from bugzilla or he would be
> > coming directly from the component page itself.
> > 
> > Ask yourself this would you search for "Bugs_and_feature_requests" or
> > the "Component" in our wiki when your are going to file a report against
> > a certain component.
> 
> There are a number of pages (and people) that point to
> Bugs_and_feature_requests as "general instructions on how to file bugs"
> without knowing which component the bug concerns.  It's certainly very
> likely many people will land on the page directly from a search engine.

There doesn't need to be any competition here; the point is to leave as
many sensible breadcrumb trails as possible, so as many people as
possible who need to find the pages, do find the pages =) all the paths
listed so far are intentionally created and useful, we don't need to
argue about which is most commonly traveled, just make sure they all
stay available.

The way search engines work - both Google's and mediawiki's - as the
pages get used, both through the current ways they can be found and
through our team members directing people to them, they will naturally
gravitate towards the top of the search results when you search for the
name of the component.

> > > It might be a good idea to put a link at the top of each "How to" page
> > > back to this page, saying, "If you need to file a bug, here's general
> > > information on how to do that.  I've added suggested language to the
> > > template page.
> > 
> > I think that info should reside under #Reporting_Problems not
> > on the "How to debug component" page.
> 
> A lot of components don't have homepages for which there is a Reporting
> Problems section.  I'm not sure every component needs its own
> homepage...
> 
> Perhaps you have a different scope in mind than what I am thinking?  So
> far, we have both "Bug_info_" and "How_to_debug_"
> pages.  I was assuming these were essentially the same thing by
> different names.  

Yes, they are, AFAIK (Bug_info_ was the naming scheme I came
up with, How_to_debug_ was someone else's, but we were
designing the same kind of page).

I think Chris is right here; we can't assume every component under the
sun is going to have a page in the Fedora wiki. For some components it
just doesn't make any sense to have one, as we don't have any
Fedora-specific information to convey, so information is better found
upstream. So I'd support Chris' suggestion of having this in the
debugging page template.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  7 21:46:17 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:46:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: sealert with message: Cannot access repository dir
	/var/cache/yum/x86_64/11.92/rawhide
Message-ID: <636967.96796.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear all,

After updating to today's rawhide, I encountered a problem with seleart.  I tried clicking on the star and I got a message:

Cannot access repository dir /var/cache/yum/x86_64/11.92/rawhide

After clicking several times, I managed to get it going and used the included bugzilla to file the following bug.  

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527739

Apparently, I had seen this error before, but I could not capture it.  


Thanks,

Antonio


      



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Wed Oct  7 22:28:53 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:28:53 -0400
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1254949287.2291.78.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
	<835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>	<4ACCBAC0.3020902@hi.is>
	<1254933114.2440.39.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4ACCCD5B.6000701@hi.is>
	<1254944455.2440.72.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1254949287.2291.78.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1254954533.2440.155.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 14:01 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>Yes, I think Chris' general idea is correct, but Johann is correct that
> we don't current have sufficiently good centralized info on standard
> gdb / strace use. I think the best approach would be to add the
> necessary stuff to the StackTraces page and then link to that from each
> 'how to debug' page, as Chris suggests. Johann, do you think you could
> do a draft of this, or could you, Chris?

Well, I added a more user-friendly intro to StackTraces and expanded
tidied up the page a bit.  I hope it is now reasonably useful to novice
users, at least those patient enough to bother with this stuff.  Further
improvements might be necessary, but I await feedback if someone wants
to push on something in particular or if there is someone in the novice
demographic who can take a look at it.

"How to use gdb" is a very broad development topic, which is why I was
thinking of the man and info pages are comprehensive in that regard.  If
we only want to provide more convenient instructions for how to get
stack traces with gdb, that information is already on the StackTraces
page.  If we are looking for something in between, then I'm not sure
what the intended scope would be.

Since Adam mentioned it, I added a brief description of strace.  Since
it can't do stack traces (right?) I don't know what else there is to say
except point at the existing comprehensive documentation.

[[Features/ABRT]] says ABRT is targeted for Fedora 11, but looking at
the instructions at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-08-20_ABRT and noting that
abrt-desktop is not available in the standard repositories, I assume
ABRT is not ready for prime time novice users?  Is that still true for
Rawhide? Did we want to mention it on StackTraces as "coming soon"?  (If
so, what is the ETA, and will it obsolete bug-buddy?)

Are we going to rename Bug_info_ pages to
How_to_debug_ as part of this standardization?

-B.



From poelstra at redhat.com  Wed Oct  7 23:38:46 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:38:46 -0700
Subject: Fedora 12 Beta Blocker Meeting :: 2009-10-09 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT)
Message-ID: <4ACD2686.20409@redhat.com>

When: Friday, 2009-10-09 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

Join us Friday for what we hope is the LAST blocker bug review meeting 
for the Fedora 12 Beta. On Friday we will review the unresolved bugs on
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=507678&hide_resolved=1

517260  [ASSIGNED - medium - dlehman at redhat.com - --- - Reopened] 
liveinst fails at partitioning screen
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517260

526208 [ASSIGNED - low - skvidal at sethdot.org - --- -] preupgrade failed 
from old release(f10, f11)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526208

526470 [MODIFIED - medium - harald at redhat.com - --- -] NFSv3 mounting 
broken in dracut netboot
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526470

526842 [MODIFIED - urgent - xgl-maint at redhat.com - --- - Desktop] 
Firstboot not run after installation
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526842

If you are aware of any bugs you think should block the Beta, please set 
them to block 'F12Beta'.  If you are able, please come to the meeting as 
well to help guide the discussion.

We will also start reviewing the Fedora 12 Blocker Bugs--current count 
== 67!
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=473303&hide_resolved=1

Thanks for your help and time,
John



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct  7 23:48:52 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:48:52 -0700
Subject: sealert with message: Cannot access repository dir
 /var/cache/yum/x86_64/11.92/rawhide
In-Reply-To: <636967.96796.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <636967.96796.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1254959332.2291.82.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 14:46 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> After updating to today's rawhide, I encountered a problem with seleart.  I tried clicking on the star and I got a message:
> 
> Cannot access repository dir /var/cache/yum/x86_64/11.92/rawhide
> 
> After clicking several times, I managed to get it going and used the included bugzilla to file the following bug.  
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527739
> 
> Apparently, I had seen this error before, but I could not capture it.  

Warren and Dan Walsh have already been working on this one since this
morning.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct  7 23:49:52 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:49:52 -0700
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1254954533.2440.155.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
	<835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>	<4ACCBAC0.3020902@hi.is>
	<1254933114.2440.39.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4ACCCD5B.6000701@hi.is>
	<1254944455.2440.72.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1254949287.2291.78.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254954533.2440.155.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1254959392.2291.83.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 18:28 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> [[Features/ABRT]] says ABRT is targeted for Fedora 11, but looking at
> the instructions at
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-08-20_ABRT and noting
> that
> abrt-desktop is not available in the standard repositories, I assume
> ABRT is not ready for prime time novice users?  Is that still true for
> Rawhide? Did we want to mention it on StackTraces as "coming soon"?
> (If
> so, what is the ETA, and will it obsolete bug-buddy?)

It's landing in F12, and yes, it obsoletes bug-buddy.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From johannbg at hi.is  Thu Oct  8 10:29:13 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:29:13 +0000
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1254949287.2291.78.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>	<835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>	<4ACCBAC0.3020902@hi.is>	<1254933114.2440.39.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<4ACCCD5B.6000701@hi.is>	<1254944455.2440.72.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1254949287.2291.78.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4ACDBEF9.6090608@hi.is>

On 10/07/2009 09:01 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 15:40 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
>
> Thanks to Johann for the idea and the template and everyone else for
> running with the idea!
>
>   
>> On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 17:18 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>>     
>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces 
>>>>         
>>> Not targeted at low-knowledge audience 
>>>       
>> Well, at least it's a starting point.  It might be best to put material
>> appropriate to novice users up front on that page (how to use Bug Buddy,
>> ABRT, etc.), while retaining advanced material farther down.
>>     
> Yes, I think Chris' general idea is correct, but Johann is correct that
> we don't current have sufficiently good centralized info on standard
> gdb / strace use. I think the best approach would be to add the
> necessary stuff to the StackTraces page and then link to that from each
> 'how to debug' page, as Chris suggests. Johann, do you think you could
> do a draft of this, or could you, Chris?
>
>   

We can create a gdb template with a link to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces encase end users wants to
learn more on how to use gdb That template could contain the
instructions of what I wrote I on the Thunderbird page so the novice
enduser can produce gdb.txt file to attache to the report without the
need to learn the whole internet before doing so.

>>>> It might be a good idea to put a link at the top of each "How to" page
>>>> back to this page, saying, "If you need to file a bug, here's general
>>>> information on how to do that.  I've added suggested language to the
>>>> template page.
>>>>         
>>> I think that info should reside under #Reporting_Problems not
>>> on the "How to debug component" page.
>>>       
>> A lot of components don't have homepages for which there is a Reporting
>> Problems section.  I'm not sure every component needs its own
>> homepage...
>>
>> Perhaps you have a different scope in mind than what I am thinking?  So
>> far, we have both "Bug_info_" and "How_to_debug_"
>> pages.  I was assuming these were essentially the same thing by
>> different names.  
>>     
> Yes, they are, AFAIK (Bug_info_ was the naming scheme I came
> up with, How_to_debug_ was someone else's, but we were
> designing the same kind of page).
>
>   

Does not actually matter what we call these pages as long as they have
consistent naming and consistent layout. 

One thing people need to ask themselves is.. Do we want to be able to
point reporters to a reporting page for a given component which will
contain all the information he needs to file a good report against the
component or do we want him to follow million links and read through
tons of man pages how to's upstream documents and more while being
redirect through the whole internet and all of this just to file a
single report.. 

I suggest that we have a single how to debug page for each component
which we can point the reporter to like "Hey here's the page on how to
report against the component you encountered a bug with. It contains all
the necessary information on what you need to file good report against
this component ( yes including the minimal gdb info as I wrote on the
thunderbird page ) and a couple of links encase you want to learn more
and avoid as much as possible redirecting them between pages in the wiki
or somewhere else on the intertubes for that matter.. 

Asking users to follow link "A" to get to page "C" which will contain
info on component "E"  always remind me on Twelve Tasks of Asterix (/Les
Douze travaux d'Ast?rix/ ) an animated feature film from 1976 where one
of Asterix and Obelix tasks was to find permit A38 in the place that
sends you mad! which was a mind-numbing multi-storey building founded on
bureaucracy and staffed by clinically unhelpful people who direct all
their clients to other similarly unhelpful people elsewhere in the
building. 

Reporters I ask you this..

Do you want to run around in the wiki to find the info needed to file
areport against an component or do you want to have all that info on a
single page ?

JBG


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From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Thu Oct  8 15:49:14 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:49:14 +0200
Subject: Problems with Eclipse [SOLVED]
In-Reply-To: <20091007191351.GJ2650@redhat.com>
References: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<20091007191351.GJ2650@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4ACE09FA.4030209@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Andrew Overholt wrote:
> * shmuel siegel  [2009-10-07 15:03]:
>   
>> Many eclipse dialogs are not working for me.
>>     
>
> Perhaps:
>
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=287307
>
> I'll get a patch into rawhide ASAP.
>
> Andrew
>
>   
The version in koji that is tagged fc13 does indeed solve my problem so 
you were right in guessing that it was this upstream bug. I think that 
it is a serious problem so I hope that it makes it into fc12.




From overholt at redhat.com  Thu Oct  8 15:41:42 2009
From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:41:42 -0400
Subject: Problems with Eclipse [SOLVED]
In-Reply-To: <4ACE09FA.4030209@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<20091007191351.GJ2650@redhat.com>
	<4ACE09FA.4030209@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <20091008154142.GH31120@redhat.com>

* shmuel siegel  [2009-10-08 11:41]:
> Andrew Overholt wrote:
>> * shmuel siegel  [2009-10-07 15:03]:
>>> Many eclipse dialogs are not working for me.
>>
>> Perhaps:
>>
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=287307
> [...]
> The version in koji that is tagged fc13 does indeed solve my problem so  
> you were right in guessing that it was this upstream bug. I think that  
> it is a serious problem so I hope that it makes it into fc12.

Thanks, we'll try to get it back-ported.

Andrew



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct  8 15:45:33 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:45:33 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091008 changes
Message-ID: <20091008154533.GA25348@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Thu Oct  8 06:15:12 UTC 2009










Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



Removed package compat-wxGTK26
Updated Packages:

GConf2-2.28.0-2.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-2
- Fix a problem with schema translations


aria2-1.6.1-1.fc12
------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Rahul Sundaram  - 1.6.1-1
- Fixes memory leak in HTTP/FTP downloads and other minor bug fixes
- http://aria2.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/aria2/trunk/NEWS?revision=1569


bognor-regis-0.4.10-3.fc12
--------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Peter Robinson  0.4.10-3
- Add upstream patch to fix a crash


brasero-2.28.1-2.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-2
- Fix command-line parsing (#527484)


dbus-1.2.16-8.fc12
------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1:1.2.16-7
- Add missing diagrams to the docs (#527650)

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1:1.2.16-8
- Drop capabilities (#518541)


evolution-2.28.0-2.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Matthew Barnes  - 2.28.0-2.fc12
- Tweak desktop file for GNOME Shell.


glib2-2.22.2-1.fc12
-------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.22.2-1
- Update to 2.22.2


gnome-media-2.28.1-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


gnome-panel-2.28.0-2.fc12
-------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-2
- Add a default location to the clock applet


gupnp-0.13.1-1.fc12
-------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Peter Robinson  0.13.1-1
- Update to 0.13.1


moblin-gtk-engine-1.0.2-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Peter Robinson  1.0.2-1
- New upstream 1.0.2 release


moblin-panel-myzone-0.0.7-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Peter Robinson  0.0.7-1
- New upstream 0.0.7 release


moblin-session-0.12-6.fc12
--------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Peter Robinson  0.12-6
- Shorten desktop name to plain Moblin


mojito-0.21.2-1.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Peter Robinson  0.21.2-1
- Update to 0.21.2


mutter-2.28.0-2.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Owen Taylor  - 2.28.0-1
- Update to 2.28.0


openldap-2.4.18-5.fc12
----------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Jan Zeleny  2.4.18-5
- updated smbk5pwd patch to be linked with libldap (#526500)

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Jan Zeleny  2.4.18-4
- buffer overflow patch from upstream
- added /etc/openldap/slapd.d and /etc/openldap/slapd.conf.bak
  to files owned by openldap-servers


plymouth-0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.6.fc12
----------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Ray Strode  0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.5
- Prevent firstboot's X from crashing on radeon hardware. This should
  only affect multihead users, but for some reason it's getting some
  single head users as well.

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Ray Strode  0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.6
- Fix the reason radeon single head users were affected.

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Ray Strode  0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.4
- Prevent firstboot's X from crashing on intel hardware


polkit-gnome-0.95-0.git20090913.6.fc12
--------------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 0.95.0.git20090913.6
- Prevent the statusicon from eating whitespace


rhythmbox-0.12.5-5.fc12
-----------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.12.5-5
- Remove work-around for brasero bug


rubygem-actionmailer-2.3.4-2.fc12
---------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 David Lutterkort  - 1:2.3.4-2
- Bump Epoch to ensure upgrade path from F-11


rubygem-actionpack-2.3.4-2.fc12
-------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 David Lutterkort  - 1:2.3.4-2
- Bump Epoch to ensure upgrade path from F-11


rubygem-activerecord-2.3.4-2.fc12
---------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 David Lutterkort  - 1:2.3.4-2
- Bump Epoch to ensure upgrade path from F-11


rubygem-activeresource-2.3.4-2.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 David Lutterkort  - 1:2.3.4-2
- Bump Epoch to ensure upgrade path from F-11


rubygem-activesupport-2.3.4-2.fc12
----------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 David Lutterkort  - 1:2.3.4-2
- Bump Epoch to ensure upgrade path from F-11


rubygem-rails-2.3.4-2.fc12
--------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 David Lutterkort  - 1:2.3.4-2
- Bump Epoch to ensure upgrade path from F-11


seahorse-plugins-2.28.0-2.fc12
------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-2
- Implement GETINFO to make seahorse-agent work with gnupg >= 2.0.12


selinux-policy-3.6.32-22.fc12
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-22
- Allow polickit to read meminfo

* Mon Oct 05 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-21
- Allow dovecot_t getcap, setcap

* Fri Oct 02 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-19
- Add labeling for /var/run/kdm

* Fri Oct 02 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-20
- Add chrome-sandbox policy
- Split out execmem policy

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-17
- Allow vpnc request the kernel to load modules

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-18
- Allow svirt to list sysfs_t directory

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-15
- Add plymouth policy
- Allow local_login to sys_admin

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-16
- Fix minimum policy installs
- Allow udev and rpcbind to request the kernel to load modules

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-13
- Allow cupsd_config to read user tmp
- Allow snmpd_t to signal itself
- Allow sysstat_t to makedir in sysstat_log_t


setroubleshoot-2.2.37-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Dan Walsh  - 2.2.37-1
- Don't throw up an error box if yum cache is not setup

* Mon Oct 05 2009 Dan Walsh  - 2.2.36-1
- Fix Fix It button
- Remove Setroubleshoot: from every heading

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Dan Walsh  - 2.2.35-1
- Fix translations, plurals and glade
	- Update Po
	- Fix plural form
	- Add support for Green Plugins


totem-2.28.1-3.fc12
-------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-3
- Remove work-around for brasero bug


xscreensaver-5.10-2.fc12
------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 1:5.10-2
- Restrict Autostart effect to GNOME session only (bug 517391)
- Use planet.fedoraproject.org for textURL (still the default textMode
  is "file", i.e. no net connection)


xz-4.999.9-0.1.beta.20091007git.fc12
------------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Jindrich Novy  4.999.9-0.1.20091007.beta
- sync with upstream again

* Fri Oct 02 2009 Jindrich Novy  4.999.9-0.1.20091002.beta
- sync with upstream to generate the same archives on machines with different
  endianess


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 31



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct  8 17:08:15 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:08:15 -0700
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <4ACDBEF9.6090608@hi.is>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
	<835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>	<4ACCBAC0.3020902@hi.is>
	<1254933114.2440.39.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
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On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 10:29 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> One thing people need to ask themselves is.. Do we want to be able to
> point reporters to a reporting page for a given component which will
> contain all the information he needs to file a good report against the
> component or do we want him to follow million links and read through
> tons of man pages how to's upstream documents and more while being
> redirect through the whole internet and all of this just to file a
> single report..  
> 
> I suggest that we have a single how to debug page for each component
> which we can point the reporter to like "Hey here's the page on how to
> report against the component you encountered a bug with. It contains
> all the necessary information on what you need to file good report
> against this component ( yes including the minimal gdb info as I wrote
> on the thunderbird page ) and a couple of links encase you want to
> learn more and avoid as much as possible redirecting them between
> pages in the wiki or somewhere else on the intertubes for that
> matter..  
> 
> Asking users to follow link "A" to get to page "C" which will contain
> info on component "E"  always remind me on Twelve Tasks of Asterix
> (Les Douze travaux d'Ast?rix ) an animated feature film from 1976
> where one of Asterix and Obelix tasks was to find permit A38 in the
> place that sends you mad! which was a mind-numbing multi-storey
> building founded on bureaucracy and staffed by clinically unhelpful
> people who direct all their clients to other similarly unhelpful
> people elsewhere in the building.  
> 
> Reporters I ask you this..
> 
> Do you want to run around in the wiki to find the info needed to file
> areport against an component or do you want to have all that info on a
> single page ? 

I think that overstates the issue. I agree that it's a bad idea to make
people run around a long chain of links to different pages, but that's
not the vision here. The vision is to have specific pages for one or two
specific operations linked directly from the debug pages; you'd never
have to go more than two levels deep.

I think that's fine. There's a balance here. The problem with writing
the instructions into each page separately is rot; if you have multiple
instances of any text in a Wiki, it's almost inevitable that they'll
diverge, that one will be correctly updated and the other won't, and
this will lead to problems. For instance, it would be insane to write
instructions on installing packages into every single page which
mentions installing packages; we just have a page about package
management and link to it where appropriate. That way, when something
about package management changes, we don't have to update a couple of
thousand different pages.

There's definitely a balance to be maintained here, but personally I
think the separation approach will work best for this particular case
(instructions on getting useful crash traces).

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From johannbg at hi.is  Thu Oct  8 17:37:59 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:37:59 +0000
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1255021695.2291.94.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>	<835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>	<4ACCBAC0.3020902@hi.is>	<1254933114.2440.39.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<4ACCCD5B.6000701@hi.is>	<1254944455.2440.72.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<1254949287.2291.78.camel@adam.local.net>
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On 10/08/2009 05:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 10:29 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>   
> There's definitely a balance to be maintained here, but personally I
> think the separation approach will work best for this particular case
> (instructions on getting useful crash traces).
>
>   

I'm all for using templates or include pages where we can but we have to
agree on disagree on crash traces. 

For us to prevent us having to rewrite the whole thing it would be good
if testers/reporters would chime in on this thread on how they would
like to see this since it's you guy's that need to follow these directions.

How would you like to see these pages and have the page layout?

Dont hesitate to share your view.. 

JBG
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From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu Oct  8 19:19:29 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:19:29 -0400
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <4ACDBEF9.6090608@hi.is>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
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On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 10:29 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> On 10/07/2009 09:01 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: 
> > On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 15:40 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks to Johann for the idea and the template and everyone else for
> > running with the idea!
> > 
> >   
> > > On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 17:18 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> > >     
> > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces 
> > > > >         
> > > > Not targeted at low-knowledge audience 
> > > >       
> > > Well, at least it's a starting point.  It might be best to put material
> > > appropriate to novice users up front on that page (how to use Bug Buddy,
> > > ABRT, etc.), while retaining advanced material farther down.
> > >     
> > Yes, I think Chris' general idea is correct, but Johann is correct that
> > we don't current have sufficiently good centralized info on standard
> > gdb / strace use. I think the best approach would be to add the
> > necessary stuff to the StackTraces page and then link to that from each
> > 'how to debug' page, as Chris suggests. Johann, do you think you could
> > do a draft of this, or could you, Chris?
> > 
> >   
> 
> We can create a gdb template with a link to
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces encase end users wants to
> learn more on how to use gdb That template could contain the
> instructions of what I wrote I on the Thunderbird page so the novice
> enduser can produce gdb.txt file to attache to the report without the
> need to learn the whole internet before doing so. 
> 
> > > > > It might be a good idea to put a link at the top of each "How to" page
> > > > > back to this page, saying, "If you need to file a bug, here's general
> > > > > information on how to do that.  I've added suggested language to the
> > > > > template page.
> > > > >         
> > > > I think that info should reside under #Reporting_Problems not
> > > > on the "How to debug component" page.
> > > >       
> > > A lot of components don't have homepages for which there is a Reporting
> > > Problems section.  I'm not sure every component needs its own
> > > homepage...
> > > 
> > > Perhaps you have a different scope in mind than what I am thinking?  So
> > > far, we have both "Bug_info_" and "How_to_debug_"
> > > pages.  I was assuming these were essentially the same thing by
> > > different names.  
> > >     
> > Yes, they are, AFAIK (Bug_info_ was the naming scheme I came
> > up with, How_to_debug_ was someone else's, but we were
> > designing the same kind of page).
> > 
> >   
> 
> Does not actually matter what we call these pages as long as they have
> consistent naming and consistent layout.  
> 
> One thing people need to ask themselves is.. Do we want to be able to
> point reporters to a reporting page for a given component which will
> contain all the information he needs to file a good report against the
> component or do we want him to follow million links and read through
> tons of man pages how to's upstream documents and more while being
> redirect through the whole internet and all of this just to file a
> single report..  
> 
> I suggest that we have a single how to debug page for each component
> which we can point the reporter to like "Hey here's the page on how to
> report against the component you encountered a bug with. It contains
> all the necessary information on what you need to file good report
> against this component ( yes including the minimal gdb info as I wrote
> on the thunderbird page ) and a couple of links encase you want to
> learn more and avoid as much as possible redirecting them between
> pages in the wiki or somewhere else on the intertubes for that
> matter..  
> 
> Asking users to follow link "A" to get to page "C" which will contain
> info on component "E"  always remind me on Twelve Tasks of Asterix
> (Les Douze travaux d'Ast?rix ) an animated feature film from 1976
> where one of Asterix and Obelix tasks was to find permit A38 in the
> place that sends you mad! which was a mind-numbing multi-storey
> building founded on bureaucracy and staffed by clinically unhelpful
> people who direct all their clients to other similarly unhelpful
> people elsewhere in the building.  
  
We don't need to build the perfect system from the start.  Trying to
would just end up with everyone being unhappy with the result.  Perhaps
focusing on some incremental wins.  

We are  beginning to build out some quality guides to assist testers so
that they can resolve their own problems.   Adam is right, the more
content we have, the more it will suffer from rot.  So instead of
mandating that every component needs to have a series of corresponding
wiki templates, let's try something else.  I've had many problems with X
and a few with dracut in recent months.  Those 2 wiki pages are great.
But I wouldn't be served at all by a comprehensive page on how to debug
'at'.  That's not that 'at' isn't important, but it shouldn't be part of
our primary focus when we are trying to add value.  Besides, what is
established+proposed here would allow for anyone to provide content for
their favorite apps using the previously suggested wiki template, cool!

Going back to what pages do we focus on.  Seems like the informal
approach that's happening now is ideal.  Build pages for high-impact
features that will introduce a high bug rate (e.g. xorg-x11-drv-* and
dracut).  This can be part of the service offered by the QA group as
features come online.  We can provide focused test days and some
documentation to aid others to self-diagnose and/or provide quality bug
reports.

Thanks,
James
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct  8 19:29:20 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:29:20 -0700
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1255029569.2376.48.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
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On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 15:19 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> Going back to what pages do we focus on.  Seems like the informal
> approach that's happening now is ideal.  Build pages for high-impact
> features that will introduce a high bug rate (e.g. xorg-x11-drv-* and
> dracut).  This can be part of the service offered by the QA group as
> features come online.  We can provide focused test days and some
> documentation to aid others to self-diagnose and/or provide quality
> bug
> reports. 

Sure, but I think Johann's idea to standardize the layout and audience
target of the pages we _do_ have is a good one.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu Oct  8 19:37:15 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:37:15 -0400
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1255030160.2291.96.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
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On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 12:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 15:19 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> > Going back to what pages do we focus on.  Seems like the informal
> > approach that's happening now is ideal.  Build pages for high-impact
> > features that will introduce a high bug rate (e.g. xorg-x11-drv-* and
> > dracut).  This can be part of the service offered by the QA group as
> > features come online.  We can provide focused test days and some
> > documentation to aid others to self-diagnose and/or provide quality
> > bug
> > reports. 
> 
> Sure, but I think Johann's idea to standardize the layout and audience
> target of the pages we _do_ have is a good one.

Definitely, I think that's a huge win.  My comments were more focused on
what pages to target next.

Thanks,
James
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From beland at alum.mit.edu  Fri Oct  9 00:08:26 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:08:26 -0400
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1254959392.2291.83.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
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On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 16:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> It's landing in F12, and yes, it obsoletes bug-buddy.

OK, I added a note about the coming ABRT changeover to the intro of
[[StackTraces]].

-B.



From per at bothner.com  Fri Oct  9 00:34:58 2009
From: per at bothner.com (Per Bothner)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:34:58 -0700
Subject: youtube weirdness
Message-ID: <4ACE8532.4040109@bothner.com>

Perhaps the most annoying problem with F12 at this point is a
weird problem with some embedded YouTube videos.  Presumably
this isn't Fedora's fault, but it makes F12 less enjoyable
for me.

I follow http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com which usually has
some interesting YouTube links - which work in F11 but not F12.
The problem is the particular format of the links.
This link "works":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUCfSiMB_2E
However, the pause button doesn't work, and I can't
slide the time-line.
OTOH think link doesn't work:
http://www.youtube.com/v/RUCfSiMB_2E
Clicking on the start button does nothing.

I though there might be a problem with Flash's
Input Event handling.  However the Flash "home page"
http://www.adobe.com/flashplatform/ works fine - I can
start and stop the animation and click on various links.
-- 
	--Per Bothner
per at bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Fri Oct  9 01:58:03 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:58:03 -0400
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <4ACDBEF9.6090608@hi.is>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
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On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 10:29 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> Does not actually matter what we call these pages as long as they have
> consistent naming and consistent layout.  

I'm pretty ambivalent as well, but if are agreed that consistency in
naming is desired, we need to pick one system.  My preferences are, in
order from best to worst: "ComponentX Problems", "How to Debug
ComponentX" and "Bug Info ComponentX".  Perhaps someone can take a poll
at the next meeting.


I simplified and expanded the upper portions of the [[How to Debug
Thunderbird]] page a bit; I hope the instruction to file extension bugs
with extension authors is correct.

The "Debugging Thunderbird" section could use some clarification.  I
assume that readers should only attempt to get a stack trace if they
experience a crash?

The instructions for using gdb on the Thunderbird page are much more
complicated than:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces#Obtaining_a_stack_trace_using_just_GDB

Does the gdb logging described on the Thunderbird page get you anything
more than a stack trace?

-B.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct  9 03:13:12 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:13:12 -0700
Subject: youtube weirdness
In-Reply-To: <4ACE8532.4040109@bothner.com>
References: <4ACE8532.4040109@bothner.com>
Message-ID: <1255057992.2339.1.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 17:34 -0700, Per Bothner wrote:
> Perhaps the most annoying problem with F12 at this point is a
> weird problem with some embedded YouTube videos.  Presumably
> this isn't Fedora's fault, but it makes F12 less enjoyable
> for me.
> 
> I follow http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com which usually has
> some interesting YouTube links - which work in F11 but not F12.
> The problem is the particular format of the links.
> This link "works":
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUCfSiMB_2E
> However, the pause button doesn't work, and I can't
> slide the time-line.
> OTOH think link doesn't work:
> http://www.youtube.com/v/RUCfSiMB_2E
> Clicking on the start button does nothing.

All the videos on that page work fine for me (I'm using Adobe Flash,
x86-64 version, the latest one).

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us  Fri Oct  9 03:17:23 2009
From: jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:17:23 -0400
Subject: youtube weirdness
In-Reply-To: <1255057992.2339.1.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4ACE8532.4040109@bothner.com>
	<1255057992.2339.1.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4ACEAB43.8070606@kamens.brookline.ma.us>

I have exactly the same problem as Per Bothner, and I've been seeing 
this issue for months.  I'm on 32-bit.  I think the problem may be 
flashblock.

When I have flashblock (1.5.11.2) enabled and I try to view the video at 
http://unclejayexplains.com/2009/10/04/uncle-jay-explains-oct-5-2009/, 
first first time I click on it I get the flashblock "click here to 
activate this flash object" arrow button, then when I click that button 
the video window goes blank for a couple of seconds as if it's trying to 
display the video, then it pops up a save dialog for me to save the mp4 
instead of playing it.

If I then whitelist unclejayexplains.com in the flashblock preferences 
and reload the page, I can view the video just fine.

   jik



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct  9 03:45:15 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:45:15 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091009034515.CBEDF10F8AD@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    389-admin-1.1.9-1.fc11
    389-console-1.1.3-4.fc11
    389-ds-base-1.2.3-1.fc11
    GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc11
    R-qtl-1.14.2-1.fc11
    Terminal-0.4.2-2.fc11
    blktrace-1.0.1-3.fc11
    cups-1.4.1-4.fc11
    dbmail-2.2.11-10.fc11
    gnome-media-2.28.1-1.fc11
    gpx-viewer-0.1.1-1.fc11
    gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-1.fc11
    ibus-table-erbi-1.2.0.20090901-3.fc11
    ibus-table-yong-1.2.0.20090717-1.fc11
    ikiwiki-3.14159265-1.fc11
    kmymoney2-1.0.2-1.fc11
    kmymoney2-aqbanking-1.0-2.fc11
    kpackagekit-0.4.2-1.fc11
    libxml2-2.7.6-1.fc11
    lighttpd-1.4.23-1.fc11
    oflb-smonohand-fonts-20090423-2.fc11
    oprofile-0.9.5-3.fc11
    python-daemon-1.4.6-1.fc11
    python-markdown2-1.0.1.15-1.fc11
    python-virtinst-0.400.3-11.fc11
    rpm-4.7.1-3.fc11
    samba-3.4.2-0.43.fc11
    sblim-cmpi-devel-2.0.0-1.fc11
    seahorse-plugins-2.26.2-6.fc11
    spawn-fcgi-1.6.2-1.fc11
    subversion-api-docs-1.6.5-1.fc11
    tcl-mysqltcl-3.05-4.fc11
    tgif-4.2-1.fc11
    xorg-x11-server-1.6.4-0.3.fc11
    yum-cron-0.9.0-1.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 389-admin-1.1.9-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10336)
 389 Administration Server (admin)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is the new admin server for the 389-ds-base 1.2.3 release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 14 2009 Rich Megginson  - 1.1.9-1
- the 1.1.9 release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #519216 - Tracking bug for 389 Directory Server 1.2.3
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519216
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 389-console-1.1.3-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10331)
 389 Management Console
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Rich Megginson  1.1.3-4
- bug 521523 - add the "which" package to the Requires
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #521523 - RPM Dependencies for 389 console are incomplete
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521523
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 389-ds-base-1.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10320)
 389 Directory Server (base)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is the 1.2.3 release.  This release adds a new update framework used to
update config, schema, scripts, etc.  When the RPM is installed, during the
%posttrans phase, the servers will be shutdown, the update script run, and the
servers restarted.  This is mostly the same as what happens during the RPM %post
of most daemons, where they do service condrestart.  There are also several bug
fixes in this release, and some new features, such as the ability to restrict
operations based on the security strength of the connection (TLS or SASL).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 14 2009 Rich Megginson  - 1.2.3-1
- 1.2.3 release
- added template-initconfig to %files
- %posttrans now runs update to update the server instances
- servers are shutdown, then restarted if running before install
- scriptlets mostly use lua now to pass data among scriptlet phases
* Tue Sep  8 2009 Nathan Kinder  - 1.2.2-2
- removed BuildRequires for lm_sensors on s390 and s390x
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #519216 - Tracking bug for 389 Directory Server 1.2.3
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519216
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10370)
 C library for country/city/organization to IP address or hostname mapping
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix EVR so it upgrades cleanly.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Michael Fleming  - 1.4.6-2
Bump to fix EVR per bz# 526090
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526090 - GeoIP in F11 older then in F10
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526090
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-qtl-1.14.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10368)
 Tools for analyzing QTL experiments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New release from http://www.rqtl.org/    See http://www.rqtl.org/STATUS.txt for
what was changed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct  7 2009 Mattias Ellert  - 1.14.2-1
- New upstream release
- Disable the check since it trips on a missing suggested package
- Change license tag to GPLv3 to reflect an upstream license change
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.11-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 Terminal-0.4.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10341)
 X Terminal Emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is mainly a translation update. It also fixes some problems with the
previous source tarball and transparent backgrounds.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.4.2-2
- Fix locale problems in the UI (bugzilla.xfce.org #5842)
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.4.2-1
- Update to 0.4.2
- Update icon cache scriptlets
* Thu Oct  1 2009 Kevin Fenzi  - 0.4.1-1
- Update to 0.4.1
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.4.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Jul 20 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.4.0-1
- Update to 0.4.0
- Use desktop-file-install
* Sun Jul 19 2009 Kevin Fenzi  - 0.2.99.1-1
- Update to 0.2.99.1
* Wed Apr 29 2009 Kevin Fenzi  - 0.2.12-3
- Fix patch fuzz
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 blktrace-1.0.1-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10347)
 Utilities for performing block layer IO tracing in the linux kernel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes btt segfault.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  2 2009 Eric Sandeen  - 1.0.1-3
- Push 1.0.1 to F11 to fix reported btt segfault (#527485)
* Mon May 11 2009 Eric Sandeen  - 1.0.1-2
- Upstream respun the release tarball to re-include top-level dir
- drop exclude of bno_plot.py[co], not getting built now?
* Mon May 11 2009 Eric Sandeen  - 1.0.1-1
- New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527485 - btt segfault
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527485
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cups-1.4.1-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10152)
 Common Unix Printing System
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates CUPS to the latest stable release, fixing several bugs in the
process.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.1-4
- Fixed naming of 'Generic PostScript Printer' entry.
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.1-3
- Use upstream patch for STR #3356 (bug #526405).
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.1-2
- Fixed orientation of page labels when printing text in landscape
  mode (bug #520141, STR #3334).
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.1-1
- 1.4.1.
- Don't use cached PPD for raw queue (bug #526405, STR #3356).
* Fri Sep  4 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.0-2
- Fixed the dnssd backend so that it only reports devices once avahi
  resolution has completed.  This makes it report Device IDs
  (bug #520858).
* Fri Aug 28 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.0-1
- 1.4.0.
* Wed Aug 26 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4-0.rc1.20
- Fixed admin.cgi crash when modifying a class (bug #519724,
  STR #3312, patch from Jiri Popelka).
* Wed Aug 26 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4-0.rc1.19
- Prevent infinite loop in cupsDoIORequest when processing HTTP
  errors (bug #518065, bug #519663, STR #3311).
- Fixed document-format-supported attribute when
  application/octet-stream is enabled (bug #516507, STR #3308, patch
  from Jiri Popelka).
- Fixed buggy JobKillDelay handling fix (STR #3292).
- Prevent infinite loop in ppdc (STR #3293).
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4-0.rc1.17
- Removed 3-distribution symlink (bug #514244).
* Tue Aug 18 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4-0.rc1.16
- Fixed JobKillDelay handling for cancelled jobs (bug #518026,
  STR #3292).
- Use 'exec' to invoke ghostscript in the pstoraster filter.  This
  allows the SIGTERM signal to reach the correct process, as well as
  conserving memory (part of bug #518026).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #516507 - document-format '' advertised when filter not present
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516507
  [ 2 ] Bug #518065 - IPP-Get-Printer-Attributes request never finishes
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518065
  [ 3 ] Bug #519663 - 'lpstat -h myfqdn -s' never finishes
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519663
  [ 4 ] Bug #526405 - Can't assign RAW Queue driver to printer
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526405
  [ 5 ] Bug #526891 - page-label misplaced by pstops filter in landscape
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526891
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dbmail-2.2.11-10.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10342)
 A database backed mail storage system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

add patch to keep from mangling mime parts (bz #527690)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct  7 2009 Bernard Johnson  - 2.2.11-10
- add patch to keep from mangling mime parts (bz #527690)
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 2.2.11-9
- rebuilt with new openssl
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.2.11-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527690 - dbmail-forward seems to damage multimime-messages
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527690
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnome-media-2.28.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10350)
 GNOME media programs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix muting issues
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct  7 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1
* Mon Sep  7 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.27.91-1
- Update to 2.27.91
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gpx-viewer-0.1.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10349)
 A simple gpx viewer
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

GPX Viewer is a simple program to visualize a gpx file. It has no  intention to
become a full blown manager, editor or analyzer.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #514634 - Review Request: gpx-viewer - A simple gpx viewer
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514634
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10348)
 GStreamer plug-ins with good code and licensing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix VoIP latency and webcam problems
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct  7 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-1
- Update to 0.10.16
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #521276 - Something about jitter buffer makes VoIP over GStreamer useless (delay around 15 sec)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521276
  [ 2 ] Bug #525925 - Philips PCVC740K fails with gstreamer apps after one frame
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525925
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-erbi-1.2.0.20090901-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10345)
 Erbi table(s) for IBus-Table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct  7 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.2.0.20090901-3.fc11
- Rebuilt.
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.2.0.20090901-2.fc11
- Rebuilt.
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.2.0.20090901-1.fc11
- Rebuilt with IBus 1.2.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-yong-1.2.0.20090717-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10345)
 Yong table(s) for IBus-Table
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.1.0.20090717-1.fc11
- Rebuilt with IBus 1.2.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ikiwiki-3.14159265-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10322)
 A wiki compiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 3.14159265. See http://ikiwiki.info/news/version_3.14159265/ for a
list of changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Thomas Moschny  - 3.14159265-1
- Update to 3.14159265.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kmymoney2-1.0.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10215)
 Personal finance
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This new stable release has a lot of new features and a refreshed user
interface.  Also now available in fedora is the kmymoney2-aqbanking plugin (for
online banking).    See also detailed release notes,
http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/release-1.0.0.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.2-1
- kmymoney2-1.0.2
* Sun Sep  6 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.1-1
- kmymoney2-1.0.1
* Wed Aug 19 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.0-1
- kmymoney2-1.0.0
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.9.3-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Jul 17 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.9.3-3
- validate .desktop file
- -libs unconditional
- use %_isa where appropriate
- optimize scriptlets
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522657 - Review Request: kmymoney2-aqbanking - Online banking plugin for KMyMoney
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522657
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kmymoney2-aqbanking-1.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10215)
 Online banking plugin for KMyMoney
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This new stable release has a lot of new features and a refreshed user
interface.  Also now available in fedora is the kmymoney2-aqbanking plugin (for
online banking).    See also detailed release notes,
http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/release-1.0.0.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522657 - Review Request: kmymoney2-aqbanking - Online banking plugin for KMyMoney
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522657
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kpackagekit-0.4.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10324)
 KDE interface for PackageKit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Include some hacks in an attempt to workaround the problem of kpk settings
reverting to Hourly/Security (usually as the result of on ungraceful shutdown).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Rex Dieter  0.4.2-1
- Patch to workaround kpackagekit: daily/none default (#469375)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #469375 - kpackagekit: daily/none default
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469375
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libxml2-2.7.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10328)
 Library providing XML and HTML support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream release of 2.7.6  It fixes 2.7.5 problem not configuring threads
support in  by default.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Daniel Veillard  - 2.7.6-1
- Upstream release of 2.7.6
- restore thread support off by default in 2.7.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lighttpd-1.4.23-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10376)
 Lightning fast webserver with light system requirements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This releases fixes a few issues and splits out spawn-fcgi.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Sep  3 2009 Matthias Saou  1.4.23-1
- Update to 1.4.23.
- Update defaultconf and mod_geoip patches.
- Remove no longer shipped spawn-fcgi, it's a separate source package now.
- Remove unused patch to the init script.
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 1.4.22-5
- rebuilt with new openssl
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.4.22-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oflb-smonohand-fonts-20090423-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10372)
 A handwritten monospace font
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526607 - Review Request: oflb-smonohand-fonts - A handwritten monospace font
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526607
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oprofile-0.9.5-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10330)
 System wide profiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update allows oprofile to use the timer for sample collection. The update
also corrects location of additional documentation on the machine in the
manpages.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct  7 2009 Will Cohen  - 0.9.5-3
- Allow timer mode to work.
- Correct location for addditional files in man pages. Resolves: rhbz #508669
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #508669 - oprofile man page cites not-present html docs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508669
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-daemon-1.4.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10363)
 Library to implement a well-behaved Unix daemon process
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of python-daemon for F11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-markdown2-1.0.1.15-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10329)
 A fast and complete Python implementation of Markdown
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update from 1.0.1.11 to 1.0.1.15, which fixes some issues, including these two
security-related bugs:  - [Issue 30] Fix a possible XSS via JavaScript injection
in a carefully crafted image reference (usage of double-quotes in the URL).  -
[Issue 29] Fix security hole in the md5-hashing scheme for handling HTML chunks
during processing.    See http://code.google.com/p/python-
markdown2/source/browse/trunk/CHANGES.txt for the full changelog.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Thomas Moschny  - 1.0.1.15-1
- Update to 1.0.1.15. Fixes three issues, two of them being
  security-related.
* Wed Sep  2 2009 Thomas Moschny  - 1.0.1.13-3
- Patch syntax_color test case for older pygments version on rhel.
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.0.1.13-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Jul 11 2009 Thomas Moschny  - 1.0.1.13-1
- Update to 1.0.1.13.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-virtinst-0.400.3-11.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10356)
 Python modules and utilities for installing virtual machines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Cole Robinson  - 0.400.3-11.fc11
- Allow SASL auth (bz 484099)
- Use ACPI for windows on KVM (bz 479977)
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Cole Robinson  - 0.400.3-10.fc11
- Fix detection of fedora preview trees (bz 499718)
- Add F12 to os dictionary
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #484099 - virt-install SASL authentication support
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484099
  [ 2 ] Bug #479977 - qemu-kvm high cpu usage with Windows 2000 Server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=479977
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rpm-4.7.1-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10354)
 The RPM package management system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes several minor bugs in build- and runtime operation makes rpmdb
more location agnostic, improving behavior on chrooted operations.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Panu Matilainen  - 4.7.1-3
- use relative paths within db environment (related to #507309, #507309...)
- remove db environment on close in chrooted operation (related to above)
- initialize rpmlib earlier in rpm2cpio (#523260)
- fix file dependency tag extension formatting (#523282)
- fix duplicate dependency filtering on build (#490378)
- permit absolute paths in file lists again (#521760)
- use permissions 444 for all .debug files (#522194)
- perl dep extractor heredoc parsing improvements (#524929)
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Bill Nottingham  - 4.7.1-2
- bump release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #507309 - installroot option fails
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507309
  [ 2 ] Bug #523260 - rpm2cpio misbehaviour on url-like arguments
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523260
  [ 3 ] Bug #523282 - "R " prefix in filerequires
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523282
  [ 4 ] Bug #490378 - Duplicate trigger sources in spec crashes RPM
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490378
  [ 5 ] Bug #521760 - rpm %files section not allowing absolute path names in -f switch
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521760
  [ 6 ] Bug #522194 - unhelpful permissions on .debug files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522194
  [ 7 ] Bug #525368 - /usr/lib/rpm/perl.req: Unmatched ) in regex
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525368
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 samba-3.4.2-0.43.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10338)
 Server and Client software to interoperate with Windows machines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct  7 2009 Guenther Deschner  - 3.4.2-0.43
- Fix required talloc version
- resolves: #527806
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527806 - Wrong dependencies in Samba 3.4.2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527806
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sblim-cmpi-devel-2.0.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10357)
 SBLIM CMPI Provider Development Support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updated the sources to 2.0.0 and added a patch to fix the CMPIData to String
conversion.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct  7 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.0.0-1
- Patch wasn't applied after setup in the previous release.
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.0.0-0
- Updated the sources to 2.0.0
- CmpiData_constructor_4_CmpiString: This patch allows providers to convert
-   CMPIData to String. The conversion of retrieving string info from CMPIData was wrong.
-   This patch fixes the conversion.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 seahorse-plugins-2.26.2-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10367)
 Plugins and utilities for encryption in GNOME
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

gnupg2 2.0.12 and newer refuse to work with seahorse-agent, since it does not
implement the new GETINFO feature. This update includes support for GETINFO to
make seahorse-agent work again.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct  7 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.26.2-6
- Implement GETINFO to make seahorse-agent work with gnupg >= 2.0.12
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #519370 - seahorse-agent missing feature for GnuPG 2.0.12
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519370
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 spawn-fcgi-1.6.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10364)
 Simple program for spawning FastCGI processes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The lighttpd project has spun off the spawn-fcgi program into its own project.
This is the latest separate spawn-fcgi.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 subversion-api-docs-1.6.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10375)
 Subversion API documentation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct  7 2009 Bojan Smojver  1.6.5-1
- bump up to 1.6.5
* Thu Sep  3 2009 Bojan Smojver  1.6.4-2
- add search
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tcl-mysqltcl-3.05-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10362)
 MySQL interface for Tcl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New package: tcl-mysqltcl - MySQL interface for Tcl    This package is an
extension to the Tool Command Language (Tcl) that provides high-level access to
a MySQL database server.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tgif-4.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10335)
 2-D drawing tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version 4.2 is released.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 4.2-1
- Update to 4.2
  * Almost all patches/sources/etc in Fedora rpms (actually borrowed
    from Vine Project) were applied upstream
  * Stop to apply 1 left patch for now
  * 1 patch does not apply, check later
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 4.1.45-10
- F-12: Mass rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xorg-x11-server-1.6.4-0.3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10319)
 X.Org X11 X server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix invalid memory access and resulting crash when AllowEmptyInput is on.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Peter Hutterer  1.6.4-0.3
- xserver-1.6.1-mousedrivers.patch: fix typo causing invalid memory access
  (#522936)
* Wed Sep 23 2009 Peter Hutterer  1.6.4-0.2
- xserver-1.6.3-coreevents.patch: dont send events for devices with
  SendCoreEvents off.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522936 - Xorg crashes on startup (with "AllowEmptyInput" "False" /  "AutoAddDevices" "False" without compiz)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522936
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yum-cron-0.9.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10340)
 Files needed to run yum updates as a cron job
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Change cron file to 0yum.cron, so yum updates things before the other daily
jobs such as makewhatis, prelink, updatedb, etc run.  That way updated files get
picked up properly.  Cost - those jobs will run later.  Resolves bug 445894.
Changed default random delay to 60 minutes from 120 to reduce the cost.  -
Eliminate the weekly package cleaning script.  Replace with logic in the daily
script to clean the packages and the metadata once per week (otherwise corrupted
meta data messes things up indefinitely). Resolves bug 526452.  Removal of
seperate weekly script resolves bug 524461.  - Use find to clear stale locks at
start of run, so add findutils req.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Alec Habig  - 0.9.0-1
- Change cron file to 0yum.cron, so yum updates things before the other daily jobs
  such as makewhatis, prelink, updatedb, etc run.  That way updated files get picked up
  properly.  Cost - those jobs will run later.  Resolves bug 445894.  Changed default
  random delay to 60 minutes from 120 to reduce the cost.
- Eliminate the weekly package cleaning script.  Replace with logic in the daily script 
  to clean the packages and the metadata once per week (otherwise corrupted metadata messes 
  things up indefinitely).  Resolves bug 526452.  Removal of seperate weekly script resolves
  bug 524461. 
- Use find to clear stale locks at start of run, so add findutils req.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524461 - 2 runs of yum-cron in parralel, lock failed
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524461
  [ 2 ] Bug #445894 - yum.cron should run earlier
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445894
  [ 3 ] Bug #526452 - yum-cron does not work if metadata database is broken
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526452
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct  9 03:45:15 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:45:15 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091009034515.CEDDD10F8AF@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    389-admin-1.1.9-1.fc10
    389-console-1.1.3-4.fc10
    389-ds-base-1.2.3-1.fc10
    R-qtl-1.14.2-1.fc10
    afraid-dyndns-1.0-5.fc10
    libxml2-2.7.6-1.fc10
    lighttpd-1.4.23-1.fc10
    oflb-smonohand-fonts-20090423-2.fc10
    oprofile-0.9.5-3.fc10
    python-markdown2-1.0.1.15-1.fc10
    spawn-fcgi-1.6.2-1.fc10
    yum-cron-0.9.0-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 389-admin-1.1.9-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10366)
 389 Administration Server (admin)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is the new admin server for the 389-ds-base 1.2.3 release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 14 2009 Rich Megginson  - 1.1.9-1
- the 1.1.9 release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #519216 - Tracking bug for 389 Directory Server 1.2.3
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519216
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 389-console-1.1.3-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10325)
 389 Management Console
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Rich Megginson  1.1.3-4
- bug 521523 - add the "which" package to the Requires
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #521523 - RPM Dependencies for 389 console are incomplete
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521523
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 389-ds-base-1.2.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10369)
 389 Directory Server (base)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is the 1.2.3 release.  This release adds a new update framework used to
update config, schema, scripts, etc.  When the RPM is installed, during the
%posttrans phase, the servers will be shutdown, the update script run, and the
servers restarted.  This is mostly the same as what happens during the RPM %post
of most daemons, where they do service condrestart.  There are also several bug
fixes in this release, and some new features, such as the ability to restrict
operations based on the security strength of the connection (TLS or SASL).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 14 2009 Rich Megginson  - 1.2.3-1
- 1.2.3 release
- added template-initconfig to %files
- %posttrans now runs update to update the server instances
- servers are shutdown, then restarted if running before install
- scriptlets mostly use lua now to pass data among scriptlet phases
* Tue Sep  8 2009 Nathan Kinder  - 1.2.2-2
- removed BuildRequires for lm_sensors on s390 and s390x
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #519216 - Tracking bug for 389 Directory Server 1.2.3
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519216
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 R-qtl-1.14.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10343)
 Tools for analyzing QTL experiments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New release from http://www.rqtl.org/    See http://www.rqtl.org/STATUS.txt for
what was changed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct  7 2009 Mattias Ellert  - 1.14.2-1
- New upstream release
- Disable the check since it trips on a missing suggested package
- Change license tag to GPLv3 to reflect an upstream license change
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.11-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 afraid-dyndns-1.0-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10334)
 A dynamic DNS client for the free service afraid.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

added patch to fix unsupported parameter to /install/ in Makefile
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522988 - Review Request: afraid-dyndns - A dynamic DNS client for the free service afraid.org
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522988
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libxml2-2.7.6-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10352)
 Library providing XML and HTML support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream release of 2.7.6  It fixes 2.7.5 problem not configuring threads
support in  by default.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Daniel Veillard  - 2.7.6-1
- Upstream release of 2.7.6
- restore thread support off by default in 2.7.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lighttpd-1.4.23-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10346)
 Lightning fast webserver with light system requirements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This releases fixes a few issues and splits out spawn-fcgi.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Sep  3 2009 Matthias Saou  1.4.23-1
- Update to 1.4.23.
- Update defaultconf and mod_geoip patches.
- Remove no longer shipped spawn-fcgi, it's a separate source package now.
- Remove unused patch to the init script.
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 1.4.22-5
- rebuilt with new openssl
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.4.22-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Sun Apr 12 2009 Matthias Saou  1.4.22-3
- Update init script to new style.
- No longer include a sysconfig file, though one can be set to override the
  default configuration file location.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oflb-smonohand-fonts-20090423-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10332)
 A handwritten monospace font
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526607 - Review Request: oflb-smonohand-fonts - A handwritten monospace font
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526607
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oprofile-0.9.5-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10321)
 System wide profiler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update allows oprofile to use the timer for sample collection. The update
also corrects location of additional documentation on the machine in the
manpages.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct  7 2009 Will Cohen  - 0.9.5-3
- Allow timer mode to work.
- Correct location for addditional files in man pages. Resolves: rhbz #508669
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-markdown2-1.0.1.15-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10377)
 A fast and complete Python implementation of Markdown
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update from 1.0.1.11 to 1.0.1.15, which fixes some issues, including these two
security-related bugs:  - [Issue 30] Fix a possible XSS via JavaScript injection
in a carefully crafted image reference (usage of double-quotes in the URL).  -
[Issue 29] Fix security hole in the md5-hashing scheme for handling HTML chunks
during processing.    See http://code.google.com/p/python-
markdown2/source/browse/trunk/CHANGES.txt for the full changelog.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Thomas Moschny  - 1.0.1.15-1
- Update to 1.0.1.15. Fixes three issues, two of them being
  security-related.
* Wed Sep  2 2009 Thomas Moschny  - 1.0.1.13-3
- Patch syntax_color test case for older pygments version on rhel.
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.0.1.13-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Jul 11 2009 Thomas Moschny  - 1.0.1.13-1
- Update to 1.0.1.13.
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.0.1.11-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams  - 1.0.1.11-2
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 spawn-fcgi-1.6.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10353)
 Simple program for spawning FastCGI processes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The lighttpd project has spun off the spawn-fcgi program into its own project.
This is the latest separate spawn-fcgi.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yum-cron-0.9.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10358)
 Files needed to run yum updates as a cron job
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Change cron file to 0yum.cron, so yum updates things before the other daily
jobs such as makewhatis, prelink, updatedb, etc run.  That way updated files get
picked up properly.  Cost - those jobs will run later.  Resolves bug 445894.
Changed default random delay to 60 minutes from 120 to reduce the cost.  -
Eliminate the weekly package cleaning script.  Replace with logic in the daily
script to clean the packages and the metadata once per week (otherwise corrupted
meta data messes things up indefinitely). Resolves bug 526452.  Removal of
seperate weekly script resolves bug 524461.  - Use find to clear stale locks at
start of run, so add findutils req.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Alec Habig  - 0.9.0-1
- Change cron file to 0yum.cron, so yum updates things before the other daily jobs
  such as makewhatis, prelink, updatedb, etc run.  That way updated files get picked up
  properly.  Cost - those jobs will run later.  Resolves bug 445894.  Changed default
  random delay to 60 minutes from 120 to reduce the cost.
- Eliminate the weekly package cleaning script.  Replace with logic in the daily script 
  to clean the packages and the metadata once per week (otherwise corrupted metadata messes 
  things up indefinitely).  Resolves bug 526452.  Removal of seperate weekly script resolves
  bug 524461. 
- Use find to clear stale locks at start of run, so add findutils req.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524461 - 2 runs of yum-cron in parralel, lock failed
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524461
  [ 2 ] Bug #445894 - yum.cron should run earlier
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445894
  [ 3 ] Bug #526452 - yum-cron does not work if metadata database is broken
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526452
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From per at bothner.com  Fri Oct  9 04:49:49 2009
From: per at bothner.com (Per Bothner)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:49:49 -0700
Subject: youtube weirdness
In-Reply-To: <4ACEAB43.8070606@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
References: <4ACE8532.4040109@bothner.com>	<1255057992.2339.1.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4ACEAB43.8070606@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
Message-ID: <4ACEC0ED.8010402@bothner.com>

On 10/08/2009 08:17 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> I have exactly the same problem as Per Bothner, and I've been seeing
> this issue for months. I'm on 32-bit. I think the problem may be
> flashblock.

I don't use flashblock, so I don't think that's the problem.

> When I have flashblock (1.5.11.2) enabled and I try to view the video at
> http://unclejayexplains.com/2009/10/04/uncle-jay-explains-oct-5-2009/,
> first first time I click on it I get the flashblock "click here to
> activate this flash object" arrow button, then when I click that button
> the video window goes blank for a couple of seconds as if it's trying to
> display the video, then it pops up a save dialog for me to save the mp4
> instead of playing it.

That plays fine for me.
-- 
	--Per Bothner
per at bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct  9 08:25:18 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:25:18 +0000
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1255053483.5321.95.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>	<835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>	<4ACCBAC0.3020902@hi.is>	<1254933114.2440.39.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<4ACCCD5B.6000701@hi.is>	<1254944455.2440.72.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>	<1254949287.2291.78.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4ACDBEF9.6090608@hi.is>
	<1255053483.5321.95.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4ACEF36E.3040605@hi.is>

On 10/09/2009 01:58 AM, Christopher Beland wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 10:29 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>   
>> Does not actually matter what we call these pages as long as they have
>> consistent naming and consistent layout.  
>>     
> I'm pretty ambivalent as well, but if are agreed that consistency in
> naming is desired, we need to pick one system.  My preferences are, in
> order from best to worst: "ComponentX Problems", "How to Debug
> ComponentX" and "Bug Info ComponentX".  Perhaps someone can take a poll
> at the next meeting.
>
>   

My preference are in the order from best to worst.. How to Debug ,
ComponentX Problems, Bug Info ComponentX
> I simplified and expanded the upper portions of the [[How to Debug
> Thunderbird]] page a bit; I hope the instruction to file extension bugs
> with extension authors is correct.
>   

Yeah the simplification looks better . AFAIK the Thunderbird extensions
should be filed against Thunderbird then the maintainer ( or triager )
should move it to the appropriate place in upstream bugzilla if needed .
There is a reason I left out debugging Thunderbird extensions since it
requires you to setup different profile turning on couple knobs in
about:config extract jar file etc.. 

> The "Debugging Thunderbird" section could use some clarification.  I
> assume that readers should only attempt to get a stack trace if they
> experience a crash?
>
>   

I say users should always follow that procedure and file the gdb.txt
regardless if he stack traces or not then again this is something that
the maintainer needs to clarifies as what he wants on the report along
with how to handle broken extensions...    
 
> The instructions for using gdb on the Thunderbird page are much more
> complicated than:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces#Obtaining_a_stack_trace_using_just_GDB
>
>   

Interesting perception..

I would rather say that 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces#Obtaining_a_stack_trace_using_just_GDB
is less informitive than the debugging section since it lacks the sample
output.  The reason I put the sample output is to take out any mental
uncertainty ( or insecurity ) the low-knowledge reporter could be
dealing with. This is how you execute the command. This is the output if
you are doing it right.....

> Does the gdb logging described on the Thunderbird page get you anything
> more than a stack trace?
>
>   

Try it break Thunderbird or Thunderbird extension and see for yourself...

JBG
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From markmc at redhat.com  Fri Oct  9 09:04:56 2009
From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:04:56 +0100
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1255079096.2786.44.camel@blaa>

On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 15:10 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> Subject says it all.. 
> 
> In short instead of individuals hacking how to debug wiki pages left
> and right and in their own style targeted different sets of audiences.
> 
> We would use https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:How_to_debug as
> basis and target the writing of those pages to a low-knowledge
> audience .

I like the template. If someone wanted to re-write:

  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reporting_virtualization_bugs

as "How to debug virtualization problems" using the template, I'd be
delighted.

Cheers,
Mark.



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct  9 10:22:53 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:22:53 +0000
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1255079096.2786.44.camel@blaa>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is> <1255079096.2786.44.camel@blaa>
Message-ID: <4ACF0EFD.1090509@hi.is>

On 10/09/2009 09:04 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 15:10 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>   
>> Subject says it all.. 
>>
>> In short instead of individuals hacking how to debug wiki pages left
>> and right and in their own style targeted different sets of audiences.
>>
>> We would use https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:How_to_debug as
>> basis and target the writing of those pages to a low-knowledge
>> audience .
>>     
> I like the template. If someone wanted to re-write:
>
>   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reporting_virtualization_bugs
>
> as "How to debug virtualization problems" using the template, I'd be
> delighted.
>   

I can take a look at it since I'm fiddling with virtualization at the
moment..

JBG
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From pp at ee.oulu.fi  Fri Oct  9 11:26:48 2009
From: pp at ee.oulu.fi (Pekka Pietikainen)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:26:48 +0300
Subject: youtube weirdness
In-Reply-To: <4ACEC0ED.8010402@bothner.com>
References: <4ACE8532.4040109@bothner.com>
	<1255057992.2339.1.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4ACEAB43.8070606@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<4ACEC0ED.8010402@bothner.com>
Message-ID: <20091009112648.GA11640@ee.oulu.fi>

On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 09:49:49PM -0700, Per Bothner wrote:
>> When I have flashblock (1.5.11.2) enabled and I try to view the video at
>> http://unclejayexplains.com/2009/10/04/uncle-jay-explains-oct-5-2009/,
>> first first time I click on it I get the flashblock "click here to
>> activate this flash object" arrow button, then when I click that button
> That plays fine for me.
I'm seeing this too, I've only noticed it's totally random. Sometimes
clicks work fine, sometimes they don't. Sometimes the click goes through
after 20 attempts. Occasionally I get the feeling that clicking a bit next
to the area that I want to click does the trick, but not sure about that
either.

64-bit flash with nspluginwrapper, two boxes show this. No flashblock
running. Youtube slider is where I mostly see it, but it does happen
regularly with e.g. flash-based games.

Some sort of focus/event-related thing I suppose, could be nspluginwrapper
or some generic X library thing, firefox+flash are more or less the same as
in f11, right?

-- 
Pekka Pietikainen



From tom.horsley at att.net  Fri Oct  9 12:27:40 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:27:40 +0000
Subject: fog?
Message-ID: <100920091227.23934.4ACF2C3C0001786200005D7E22216125569B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>

So, I'm looking at the new screen background I got in a recent update,
and I have to wonder: Is this a metaphor for all the users who will
find themselves in a fog trying to figure out the changes in f12? :-).



From tom.horsley at att.net  Fri Oct  9 13:17:50 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:17:50 -0400
Subject: lshal and DeviceKit?
Message-ID: <20091009091750.1c032483@zooty>

When I wrote my "mountie" program to provide a sane alternative
to the annoying automount behavior in nautilus, I used hal
queries to enumerate devices because that seemed like the
"right way" (I suspect the primary motivation to toss hal
and switch to DeviceKit was to mess up my program :-).

Anyway, the "lshal" program was very useful during development.
Both as example source code that queried hal and to see the
names of all the attributes I wanted to query.

What is the equivalent DeviceKit utility to lshal? I can't
seem to find any DeviceKit command line utilities that don't
require cryptic arguments I don't understand.

Or does that hal dbus interface continue to work forever,
with merely the information being gathered behind the
scenes differently? (In which case "lshal" is the equivalent
to "lshal"?)



From campbecg at cox.net  Fri Oct  9 15:28:02 2009
From: campbecg at cox.net (campbecg at cox.net)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:28:02 -0400
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <4ACEF36E.3040605@hi.is>
Message-ID: <20091009112802.MH03Z.269614.imail@eastrmwml41>


---- "\"J?hann B. Gu?mundsson\""  wrote: 
> On 10/09/2009 01:58 AM, Christopher Beland wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 10:29 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> >   
> >> Does not actually matter what we call these pages as long as they have
> >> consistent naming and consistent layout.  
> >>     
> > I'm pretty ambivalent as well, but if are agreed that consistency in
> > naming is desired, we need to pick one system.  My preferences are, in
> > order from best to worst: "ComponentX Problems", "How to Debug
> > ComponentX" and "Bug Info ComponentX".  Perhaps someone can take a poll
> > at the next meeting.
> >
> >   
> 
> My preference are in the order from best to worst.. How to Debug ,
> ComponentX Problems, Bug Info ComponentX

As a reporter, looking at the wiki, I would see a page called "Bug Info ComponentX" and expect a page relating to known bugs on componentx, a page called "ComponentX Problems" to be full of known issues related to using componentx, and "How to Debug ComponentX" at a howto about how to actually debug it.





From notting at redhat.com  Fri Oct  9 15:45:32 2009
From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:45:32 -0400
Subject: youtube weirdness
In-Reply-To: <20091009112648.GA11640@ee.oulu.fi>
References: <4ACE8532.4040109@bothner.com>
	<1255057992.2339.1.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4ACEAB43.8070606@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<4ACEC0ED.8010402@bothner.com> <20091009112648.GA11640@ee.oulu.fi>
Message-ID: <20091009154532.GE14692@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>

Pekka Pietikainen (pp at ee.oulu.fi) said: 
> 64-bit flash with nspluginwrapper, two boxes show this. No flashblock
> running. Youtube slider is where I mostly see it, but it does happen
> regularly with e.g. flash-based games.

I've seen it as well... Hulu is a culprit. Same software set.

Bill



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct  9 16:24:28 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:24:28 -0700
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <20091009112802.MH03Z.269614.imail@eastrmwml41>
References: <20091009112802.MH03Z.269614.imail@eastrmwml41>
Message-ID: <1255105468.2339.7.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 11:28 -0400, campbecg at cox.net wrote:
> ---- "\"J?hann B. Gu?mundsson\""  wrote: 
> > On 10/09/2009 01:58 AM, Christopher Beland wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 10:29 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> > >   
> > >> Does not actually matter what we call these pages as long as they have
> > >> consistent naming and consistent layout.  
> > >>     
> > > I'm pretty ambivalent as well, but if are agreed that consistency in
> > > naming is desired, we need to pick one system.  My preferences are, in
> > > order from best to worst: "ComponentX Problems", "How to Debug
> > > ComponentX" and "Bug Info ComponentX".  Perhaps someone can take a poll
> > > at the next meeting.
> > >
> > >   
> > 
> > My preference are in the order from best to worst.. How to Debug ,
> > ComponentX Problems, Bug Info ComponentX
> 
> As a reporter, looking at the wiki, I would see a page called "Bug
> Info ComponentX" and expect a page relating to known bugs on
> componentx, a page called "ComponentX Problems" to be full of known
> issues related to using componentx, and "How to Debug ComponentX" at a
> howto about how to actually debug it.

Thanks for the input.

For the record, I came up with the bug_info_X names, and I entirely
agree that both how_to_debug_x and x_problems are better, my name
sucks. :)

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct  9 16:33:09 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:33:09 -0700
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <4ACEF36E.3040605@hi.is>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
	<835DF103-9F30-4BD6-BFDF-64E897E78F4A@gmail.com>	<4ACCBAC0.3020902@hi.is>
	<1254933114.2440.39.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4ACCCD5B.6000701@hi.is>
	<1254944455.2440.72.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1254949287.2291.78.camel@adam.local.net> <4ACDBEF9.6090608@hi.is>
	<1255053483.5321.95.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<4ACEF36E.3040605@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1255105989.2339.16.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 08:25 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> On 10/09/2009 01:58 AM, Christopher Beland wrote:

> > The "Debugging Thunderbird" section could use some clarification.  I
> > assume that readers should only attempt to get a stack trace if they
> > experience a crash?

> I say users should always follow that procedure and file the gdb.txt
> regardless if he stack traces or not then again this is something that
> the maintainer needs to clarifies as what he wants on the report along
> with how to handle broken extensions...    

The important question is whether they should try and use gdb if
Thunderbird doesn't crash, and the answer is obviously no...I think
Chris just wants a little bit of text to clarify you only go through the
gdb procedure if your bug involves Thunderbird crashing. If the app
isn't crashing, a stack trace isn't going to provide any useful
information.
 
> > The instructions for using gdb on the Thunderbird page are much more
> > complicated than:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces#Obtaining_a_stack_trace_using_just_GDB

> Interesting perception..
> 
> I would rather say that 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces#Obtaining_a_stack_trace_using_just_GDB
> is less informitive than the debugging section since it lacks the sample
> output.  The reason I put the sample output is to take out any mental
> uncertainty ( or insecurity ) the low-knowledge reporter could be
> dealing with. This is how you execute the command. This is the output if
> you are doing it right.....

Looking at both, it seems like each has little bits that aren't in the
other, but as Johann says they're essentially very similar except he
includes example output. I definitely see Johann's rationale for having
example output; I have experienced the case numerous times where you
tell someone to perform operation 'X' and give you the output, they make
a mistake that's obvious to you but isn't to them and the output is
garbage, but they don't know that and attach it anyway, and you have to
go around the loop again explaining what they did wrong and how to fix
it. Example output is a great way to fix that problem. It _does_ make
the section read very long, though. Perhaps we could have a compromise
by showing only a small excerpt of the example output for each
operation?

I think it would be good to combine the two candidates into one
canonical 'gdb instructions' bit, and have that on the stacktraces page.
Thought: can we include a section of the stacktraces page directly into
the 'how_to_debug' page template? I don't recall if that's possible, but
I think it may be...or if we can't, we can certainly set up the
instructions as a page fragment and then include it into both the
template and the stacktraces page. That solves the duplication problem
while still having the instructions in-line in the debugging pages, as
Johann wants.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct  9 17:30:01 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:30:01 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091009 changes
Message-ID: <20091009173001.GA20760@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri Oct  9 06:45:02 UTC 2009










Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



New package couchdb-glib
        A glib api to access CouchDB servers
New package dalston
        Moblin System Information Icons
Updated Packages:

anaconda-12.35-1.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Radek Vykydal  - 12.35-1
- Override fstabSpec in PartitionDevice for by-path DASD (#526364). (dcantrell)
- Create DASDDevice objects for DASD devices when building devicetree. 
  (dcantrell)
- Add udev_device_is_dasd() to detect DASD devices. (dcantrell)
- Change existing call to deviceNameToDiskByPath(). (dcantrell)
- Make storage.devices.deviceNameToDiskByPath() more robust. (dcantrell)
- Do not copy over 70-persistent.rules if instPath is '' (#527707) (dcantrell)
- Filter out 'Sending translation for' log messages in bumpver. (dcantrell)
- Don't copy _raidSet, but merely pass around a reference (hdegoede)
- Action...Format setup device before modifying the partition table (hdegoede)
- map() -> filter() in storage.writeEscrowPackets() (dcantrell)
- Only initialize escrow packet code if there's devices that need it (#527668).
  (clumens)
- Stop trying to run xrandr (#527678). (clumens)
- On lookup of a PartedDevice also check for _ped.DeviceException (#527699)
  (hdegoede)
- Set related ayum attributes if media is found when editing methodstr
  (#515441). (rvykydal)
- In repo editing UI do not use object we are creating (#515441). (rvykydal)

* Tue Oct 06 2009 David Cantrell  - 12.34-1
- Tell udev to ignore temporary cryptsetup devices. (#526699) (dlehman)
- Use $LIBDIR to find the boot-wrapper file. (jkeating)
- Have redhat.exec reference generic.prm, not redhat.parm (dcantrell)
- Bring back cio_ignore=all, !0.0.0009 for generic.prm on s390x (#463544)
  (dcantrell)
- Take 70-persistent-net.rules generated at installation (#526322)
  (dcantrell)
- formatByDefault: Don't traceback when mountpoint is None (#522609)
  (hdegoede)
- Don't warn /usr should be formatted when "Format as:" is already selected
  (hdegoede)
- Bring up network interface before trying to use it for FCoE (hdegoede)
- DMRaidArray: Don't report no media present when in teared down state
  (hdegoede)
- Wait for udev to settle before trying to find dmraid sets in udev DB
  (hdegoede)


cups-1.4.1-9.fc12
-----------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.1-9
- Fixed naming of 'Generic PostScript Printer' entry.

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.1-8
- Use upstream patch for STR #3356 (bug #526405).

* Fri Oct 02 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.1-7
- Fixed orientation of page labels when printing text in landscape
  mode (bug #520141, STR #3334).


dracut-002-13.git8f397a9b.fc12
------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Harald Hoyer  002-13
- fixed init= handling
- kill loginit if "rdinitdebug" specified
- run dmsquash-live-root after udev has settled (bug #527514)


gnome-keyring-2.28.0-3.fc12
---------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-3
- Fix handling of rsa1 keys


gnome-panel-2.28.0-4.fc12
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-3
- Accept more bookmarks in the places menu before overflowing

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-4
- Fix possible crashes related to randr events


gnome-shell-2.28.0-3.fc12
-------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Owen Taylor  - 2.28.0-1
- Update to 2.28.0


gnome-vfs2-2.24.2-1.fc12
------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Alexander Larsson  - 2.24.2-1
- update to 2.24.2 - fixes mimetypes


gtk-vnc-0.3.9-2.fc12
--------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 0.3.9-2
- Request a full screen refresh when receives a desktop-resize encoding


libgnomekbd-2.28.0-2.fc12
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-2
- Incorporate visual fixes from upstream


parted-1.9.0-17.fc12
--------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Hans de Goede  1.9.0-17
- Only change the partition type to 82 when setting the swap flag on dos
  labels, not when resetting it

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Hans de Goede  1.9.0-15
- ped_partition_is_busy() should not throw exceptions (#527035)
- msdos_partition_is_flag_available() should return 1 for swap flag (#513729)

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Hans de Goede  1.9.0-16
- Correctly handle GPT labels on big endian machines


plymouth-0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.7.fc12
----------------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Ray Strode  0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.7
- Fix emergency shell horkage (bug 526597)
- Fix problem with details splash not showing up (bug 527426, bug 527254)


python-markdown2-1.0.1.15-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Thomas Moschny  - 1.0.1.15-1
- Update to 1.0.1.15. Fixes three issues, two of them being
  security-related.


python-pyblock-0.44-1.fc12
--------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Hans de Goede  - 0.44-1
- Use dmraid's status instead of figuring out if a set is degraded ourselves
  (#524168)
- Fix typo causing backtrace when doing activate deactivate 2x for dmraid 10


shared-mime-info-0.70-3.fc12
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.70-2
- Fix brasero desktop filenames

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.70-3
- Fix gnumeric, gthumb and abiword desktop files


system-config-firewall-1.2.21-1.fc12
------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Thomas Woerner  1.2.21-1
- fixed Policykit v0 compatibility for Fedora version 10 and 11: python-slip
  for PolicyKit v0 does not provide dbus
- updated translations: bn_IN, uk, zh_CN


vorbis-tools-1.2.0-6.fc12
-------------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Kamil Dudka  - 1:1.2.0-6
- upstream patch fixing crash of oggenc --resample (#526653)


Summary:
Added Packages: 2
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 16



From jlaska at redhat.com  Fri Oct  9 17:49:48 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:49:48 -0400
Subject: Fedora 12 Beta Blocker Meeting :: 2009-10-09 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM
 EDT) - Recap
In-Reply-To: <4ACD2686.20409@redhat.com>
References: <4ACD2686.20409@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1255110588.2444.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>

=======================================================
#fedora-bugzappers: F-12Beta Blocker Bug Review meeting
=======================================================


Meeting started by jlaska at 15:00:17 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2009-10-09/fedora-bugzappers.2009-10-09-15.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* gathering minds ...  (jlaska, 15:00:53)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517260  (jlaska, 15:06:19)
  * jlaska unable to reproduce 517260 using the procedure posted to the
    bugzilla  (jlaska, 15:11:05)
  * AGREED: 517260 will be moved to F12Blocker and accepted post-beta
    (jlaska, 15:13:27)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526208  (jlaska, 15:13:36)
  * "as discussed previously, preupgrade can be fixed in an F11 updates
    push after Beta" -wwoods  (jlaska, 15:18:16)
  * "I think the first step toward identifying the problem would be to
    narrow 'between 2.16.0 and 2.16.6 to a single version step" -mclasen
    (jlaska, 15:29:07)
  * LINK: http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gtk+/log/?h=gtk-2-16   (mclasen,
    15:31:04)
  * AGREED: wwoods and mclasen will continue to identify root cause on
    526208 with the goal of a new F-11 update in time for F-12-Beta
    (jlaska, 15:44:17)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517260  (jlaska, 15:44:34)
  * ACTION: jlaska will work w/ dlehman to verify the bug#517260 patch
    before it hits next anaconda  (jlaska, 15:51:00)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526320  (jlaska, 15:51:17)
  * LINK:
    http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-20091009/development/ppc/os/images/netboot/
    (jlaska, 15:52:23)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526899  (jlaska, 15:53:15)
  * AGREED: 526899 will stay on beta blocker awaiting review from
    dlehman  (jlaska, 16:06:05)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528077  (jlaska, 16:06:15)
  * AGREED: retest 528077 on live images built today and provide
    feedback in bz  (jlaska, 16:15:19)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498026  (jlaska, 16:16:48)
  * AGREED: 498026 will remain on list - dlehman will have a patch
    available soon for verification  (jlaska, 16:32:16)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=527920  (jlaska,
  16:32:52)
  * AGREED: 527920 affects all ldap and krb users during gdm login ...
    accepted as a beta blocker  (jlaska, 16:40:57)

* Open discussion  (jlaska, 16:41:42)

* Beta Compose Readiness  (jlaska, 16:43:39)
  * LINK:
    https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00132.html
    (jlaska, 16:46:28)
  * once the F12Beta bugs are all in MODIFIED (exluding preupgrade
    526208) - RC compose will proceed  (jlaska, 16:49:55)

Meeting ended at 16:50:12 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* jlaska will work w/ dlehman to verify the bug#517260 patch before it
  hits next anaconda




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jlaska
  * jlaska will work w/ dlehman to verify the bug#517260 patch before it
    hits next anaconda
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  * (none)




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* adamw (87)
* Oxf13 (52)
* wwoods (44)
* mclasen (21)
* halfline (15)
* buggbot (14)
* greenlion (13)
* rjune_wrk (11)
* denise (10)
* warren (7)
* notting (5)
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From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Fri Oct  9 20:20:37 2009
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:20:37 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: dracut speed and kernel version
Message-ID: 

This is my first time I was forced to "hand use" dracut, because 
initramfs build by kernel install does not work (due to kexec-tool bug).

But I was surprised by few thinks:

1. dracut accepts as a kernel version non existing kernel name and builds 
the initramfs - this is really crazy (there are some warnings, but it 
tooks a bit of time before first "File does not exist".)

2. dracut initramfs build takes ages compared to mkinitrd

3. dracut spits some confusing warnings, I am not sure what to do with:
W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql2500_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql2400_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql2322_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql2300_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql2200_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql2100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko

Am I doin' something wrong or this is expected behaviour?

Adam Pribyl



From jlaska at redhat.com  Fri Oct  9 20:28:32 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:28:32 -0400
Subject: 2009-10-08 - RAID Test Day report
Message-ID: <1255120112.2444.86.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Many thanks to participants of the RAID test day held this past Thursday
[1].  With Liam's guidance, we also had a list of RAID test cases
designed to target real world scenarios.  Not only did this event help
exercise these code paths in the installer, but helped to shake out
kinks in the test cases.

Also, thanks to Hans De Goede for providing updated live images and for
his help configuring an existing system to present BIOS RAID devices.  I
too can enjoy the world of dmraid!  The following bug reports were noted
in the Test Day wiki:

527913 NEW  - DeviceTreeError: duplicate paths in device tree
527952 NEW  - AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'disk'
498026 NEW  - RuntimeError: Returning partitions to state prior to edit failed
527965 NEW  - Unable to clone disk for raid
527969 NEW  - Device Setup Failed: device has not been created
526971 NEW  - DeviceTreeError: duplicate paths in device tree
528117 NEW  - Asking for cache data failed on raid
517260 ASSIGNED  - liveinst fails at partitioning screen
522609 MODIFIED  - AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'
528051 CLOSED NEXTRELEASE - Exception: device-mapper: create ioctl failed: Device or resource busy
527961 CLOSED DUPLICATE - Anaconda doesn't save partition binding to disk
527991 CLOSED DUPLICATE - Editing existing partition results in - The mountpoint '/' is in use.  Please pick another
528017 CLOSED DUPLICATE - Rescue unable to mount system on bios raid
527995 CLOSED NOTABUG - Problem measuring available size when 4 RAID partitions are on one volume - fourth partition is smaller than the others

Thanks,
James

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-08_RAID
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From linuxhippy at gmail.com  Fri Oct  9 21:01:29 2009
From: linuxhippy at gmail.com (Clemens Eisserer)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:01:29 -0400
Subject: May I safely execute yum-complete-transaction?
Message-ID: <194f62550910091401p70603cb5g251ec05032f2639b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I had a power shortage while I ran "yum update". After booting up, yum
told me to run yum-complete-transaction.

However yum-complete-transaction reported (see attachement), it would:
Install       7 Package(s)
Upgrade     205 Package(s)
Remove      209 Package(s)

So I canceld, afraid of having a lot of stiff accidentially removed.

Is it safe to let yum-complete-transaction continue?

Thanks, Clemens
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[root at localhost ce]# yum
yum                       yum-debug-dump
yum-builddep              yum-debug-restore
yum-complete-transaction  yumdownloader    
yumdb                     yum-groups-manager
[root at localhost ce]# yum-complete-transaction 
Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, dellsysidplugin2, presto,
              : refresh-packagekit                              
Found 152 installed debuginfo package(s)                        
Enabling rawhide-debuginfo: Fedora - Rawhide - Debug            
Reading repository metadata in from local files                              
There are 2 outstanding transactions to complete. Finishing the most recent one
The remaining transaction had 422 elements left to run                       
Package pixman-debuginfo-0.16.2-1.fc12.i686 already installed and latest version
--> Running transaction check                                                    
---> Package ConsoleKit.i686 0:0.3.1-2.fc12 set to be erased                     
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Installing:                                                                            
 k3b-common                   noarch 1:1.0.5-10.fc12                   rawhide   7.5 M 
 kdeedu-marble                i686   4.3.1-4.fc12                      rawhide    11 M 
     replacing  kdeedu-marble.i686 4.3.1-3.fc12                                        

 kernel                       i686   2.6.31.1-56.fc12                  rawhide    20 M
 kernel-PAE-devel             i686   2.6.31.1-56.fc12                  rawhide   6.0 M
 phonon                       i686   4.3.1-102.fc12                    rawhide   128 k
 phonon-devel                 i686   4.3.1-102.fc12                    rawhide    65 k
 system-config-firewall-base  noarch 1.2.20-1.fc12                     rawhide   375 k
Updating:                                                                             
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 ConsoleKit-libs              i686   0.4.1-1.fc12                      rawhide    17 k
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 GConf2                       i686   2.28.0-2.fc12                     rawhide   961 k
 GConf2-gtk                   i686   2.28.0-2.fc12                     rawhide    22 k
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 akonadi                      i686   1.2.1-1.fc12                      rawhide   546 k
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 anaconda                     i686   12.33-1.fc12                      rawhide   2.7 M
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 deltarpm                     i686   3.5-0.4.20090913git.fc12          rawhide    73 k
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 festvox-slt-arctic-hts       noarch 0.20061229-16.fc12                rawhide   1.6 M
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 glibc-debuginfo              i686   2.10.90-24                        rawhide-debuginfo                                                                                      
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 k3b                          i686   1:1.0.5-10.fc12                   rawhide   724 k 
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 kdeartwork                   i686   4.3.1-2.fc12                      rawhide   1.0 M 
 kdeedu-marble-libs           i686   4.3.1-4.fc12                      rawhide   646 k 
 kdelibs3                     i686   3.5.10-19.fc12                    rawhide    15 M 
 kdelibs3-devel               i686   3.5.10-19.fc12                    rawhide   2.0 M 
 kdeplasma-addons             i686   4.3.1-3.fc12                      rawhide   2.0 M 
 kdeplasma-addons-debuginfo   i686   4.3.1-3.fc12                      rawhide-debuginfo                                                                                      
                                                                                  14 M 
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 kio_sysinfo                  i686   20090930-1.fc12                   rawhide   358 k 
 konversation                 i686   1.2-0.12.rc1.fc12                 rawhide   3.0 M 
 kross-python                 i686   4.3.1-4.fc12                      rawhide   119 k 
 libatasmart                  i686   0.16-1.fc12                       rawhide    38 k 
 libblkid                     i686   2.16-10.2.fc12                    rawhide    87 k 
 libbonobo                    i686   2.24.2-2.fc12                     rawhide   403 k 
 libcap-ng                    i686   0.6.2-2.fc12                      rawhide    20 k 
 libfprint                    i686   0.1.0-12.pre2.fc12                rawhide   104 k 
 libgudev1                    i686   145-10.fc12                       rawhide    52 k 
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 libselinux-debuginfo         i686   2.0.87-1.fc12                     rawhide-debuginfo                                                                                      
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 libselinux-python            i686   2.0.87-1.fc12                     rawhide   194 k 
 libselinux-utils             i686   2.0.87-1.fc12                     rawhide    77 k 
 libsemanage                  i686   2.0.39-1.fc12                     rawhide   101 k 
 libsemanage-python           i686   2.0.39-1.fc12                     rawhide    79 k 
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                                                                       installed 1.1 M 
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 xorg-x11-drv-intel           i686   2.8.0-16.20090909.fc12            installed 1.0 M 
 xorg-x11-drv-nouveau         i686   1:0.0.15-12.20090924gitde0b095.fc12               
                                                                       installed 325 k
 xorg-x11-server-Xorg         i686   1.6.99.902-1.fc12                 installed 3.5 M
 xorg-x11-server-common       i686   1.6.99.902-1.fc12                 installed  40 k
 xorg-x11-server-devel        i686   1.6.99.902-1.fc12                 installed 1.2 M
 xterm                        i686   248-1.fc12                        installed 863 k
 xz                           i686   4.999.9-0.1.beta.fc12             installed 438 k
 xz-devel                     i686   4.999.9-0.1.beta.fc12             installed 145 k
 xz-libs                      i686   4.999.9-0.1.beta.fc12             installed 220 k
 xz-lzma-compat               i686   4.999.9-0.1.beta.fc12             installed  31 k

Transaction Summary
=======================================================================================
Install       7 Package(s)
Upgrade     205 Package(s)
Remove      209 Package(s)
Reinstall     0 Package(s)
Downgrade     0 Package(s)

Total size: 442 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction

From tack649 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  9 21:12:23 2009
From: tack649 at gmail.com (martin tack)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:12:23 +0200
Subject: mouse pointer invisible since updates 08-10-09
Message-ID: 

Hello ,

Finally I can start X again ,but only by first going to innit 3.

This is already a long going problem ,for witch I have searched and probed

about everything possible in last 3 weeks.

Gdm is still not coming up when booting "normal way" .

And now ,since updates yesterday , the mouse pointer is there ,but invisible
.

Graphics card is ATI 9250 and os F12 x86_64.

If more info is wanted ,please let my know.

Is this a known bug ?

Greetings

-- 
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From john5342 at googlemail.com  Fri Oct  9 21:22:50 2009
From: john5342 at googlemail.com (John5342)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:22:50 +0100
Subject: May I safely execute yum-complete-transaction?
In-Reply-To: <194f62550910091401p70603cb5g251ec05032f2639b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <194f62550910091401p70603cb5g251ec05032f2639b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6dc6523c0910091422rbf3a892wcfa63a0a75ad71da@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 22:01, Clemens Eisserer  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I had a power shortage while I ran "yum update". After booting up, yum
> told me to run yum-complete-transaction.
>
> However yum-complete-transaction reported (see attachement), it would:
> Install       7 Package(s)
> Upgrade     205 Package(s)
> Remove      209 Package(s)
>
> So I canceld, afraid of having a lot of stiff accidentially removed.
>
> Is it safe to let yum-complete-transaction continue?
>

The packages listed as to be removed are the old packages you are updating
from so yes they are safe to remove. Updating consists of installing the new
and updated packages (often shown during the transaction as updating or
installing) and then the old version is removed (normally shown as cleanup
during transactions) so install and upgrade are the packages being installed
and updated. Remove is the old packages being cleaned up. Hope that makes it
clear.

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From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Fri Oct  9 21:20:48 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:50:48 -0430
Subject: May I safely execute yum-complete-transaction?
In-Reply-To: <194f62550910091401p70603cb5g251ec05032f2639b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <194f62550910091401p70603cb5g251ec05032f2639b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1255123248.12301.298.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 17:01 -0400, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I had a power shortage while I ran "yum update". After booting up, yum
> told me to run yum-complete-transaction.
> 
> However yum-complete-transaction reported (see attachement), it would:
> Install       7 Package(s)
> Upgrade     205 Package(s)
> Remove      209 Package(s)
> 
> So I canceld, afraid of having a lot of stiff accidentially removed.
> 
> Is it safe to let yum-complete-transaction continue?

How can we possibly know? If you need to Install/Upgrade/Remove the
respective numbers of packages (e.g. you haven't run yum upgrade in a
while and you're using Rawhide), then yes. Otherwise no.

poc



From linuxhippy at gmail.com  Fri Oct  9 21:45:14 2009
From: linuxhippy at gmail.com (Clemens Eisserer)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:45:14 -0400
Subject: May I safely execute yum-complete-transaction?
In-Reply-To: <6dc6523c0910091422rbf3a892wcfa63a0a75ad71da@mail.gmail.com>
References: <194f62550910091401p70603cb5g251ec05032f2639b@mail.gmail.com>
	<6dc6523c0910091422rbf3a892wcfa63a0a75ad71da@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <194f62550910091445i7ebf0d8j9926f47264f5891c@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, now it dies because it says my database is corrupted:

rpmdb: Thread/process 1789/3086182080 failed: Thread died in Berkeley DB library
error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv->failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal
error, run database recovery
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm


I guess my options repaing this are rather limited?
Any ideas?

Thanks, Clemens



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct  9 21:49:02 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:49:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: May I safely execute yum-complete-transaction?
In-Reply-To: <194f62550910091445i7ebf0d8j9926f47264f5891c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <194f62550910091401p70603cb5g251ec05032f2639b@mail.gmail.com>
	<6dc6523c0910091422rbf3a892wcfa63a0a75ad71da@mail.gmail.com>
	<194f62550910091445i7ebf0d8j9926f47264f5891c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 



On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Clemens Eisserer wrote:

> Ok, now it dies because it says my database is corrupted:
>
> rpmdb: Thread/process 1789/3086182080 failed: Thread died in Berkeley DB library
> error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv->failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal
> error, run database recovery
> error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
> error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
>
>
> I guess my options repaing this are rather limited?
> Any ideas?

run:

rpm --rebuilddb

and see if that helps.

-sv



From linuxhippy at gmail.com  Fri Oct  9 21:52:24 2009
From: linuxhippy at gmail.com (Clemens Eisserer)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:52:24 -0400
Subject: May I safely execute yum-complete-transaction?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <194f62550910091401p70603cb5g251ec05032f2639b@mail.gmail.com>
	<6dc6523c0910091422rbf3a892wcfa63a0a75ad71da@mail.gmail.com>
	<194f62550910091445i7ebf0d8j9926f47264f5891c@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <194f62550910091452k16800d86h557a1765f261e923@mail.gmail.com>

Hi  Seth,

> run:
> rpm --rebuilddb
> and see if that helps.

Unfourtunatly not:

[root at localhost ce]# rpm --rebuilddb
rpmdb: Thread/process 1789/3086182080 failed: Thread died in Berkeley DB library
error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv->failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal
error, run database recovery
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)


- Clemens



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct  9 21:55:27 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:55:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: May I safely execute yum-complete-transaction?
In-Reply-To: <194f62550910091452k16800d86h557a1765f261e923@mail.gmail.com>
References: <194f62550910091401p70603cb5g251ec05032f2639b@mail.gmail.com>
	<6dc6523c0910091422rbf3a892wcfa63a0a75ad71da@mail.gmail.com>
	<194f62550910091445i7ebf0d8j9926f47264f5891c@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<194f62550910091452k16800d86h557a1765f261e923@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 



On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Clemens Eisserer wrote:

> Hi  Seth,
>
>> run:
>> rpm --rebuilddb
>> and see if that helps.
>
> Unfourtunatly not:
>
> [root at localhost ce]# rpm --rebuilddb
> rpmdb: Thread/process 1789/3086182080 failed: Thread died in Berkeley DB library
> error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv->failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal
> error, run database recovery
> error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
>

cd /var/lib/rpm
rm -f __db*

then
rpm --rebuilddb

-sv



From epodata at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 06:05:48 2009
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:05:48 +0200
Subject: Keyboard layout not sticky.
Message-ID: <4AD0243C.50000@gmail.com>

I've build a rawhide system as of 09oct09. I've set the default language to
English(UK) and the keyboard layout to Danish. Much to my surprise the
layout was was set to English(US) at the first reboot after the build. I
loged out and changed the layout back to Danish. But at the next boot it was
back to English(US).

What can I do to make it stick to Danish?

-- 
Cheers
Erik.



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 10:52:26 2009
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:52:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Test GIMP 2.7/2.8 ?
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:34:25 +0000, Valent Turkovic wrote:

> I there a way to test new GIMP 2.7/2.8 in Fedora? I looked in Rawhide
> repos and I still see only 2.6x versions there. Any plans to put 2.7 in
> Rawhide repost for testing purposes?

Should I ask on development channel?



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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct 10 12:59:24 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:59:24 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091010 changes
Message-ID: <20091010125924.GA32204@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sat Oct 10 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	konversation-1.2-1.fc12.i686 requires kdelibs4 >= 0:4.3.2
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	konversation-1.2-1.fc12.x86_64 requires kdelibs4 >= 0:4.3.2
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.x86_64 requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	konversation-1.2-1.fc12.ppc requires kdelibs4 >= 0:4.3.2
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	konversation-1.2-1.fc12.ppc64 requires kdelibs4 >= 0:4.3.2
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc64 requires python-json



Removed package gai
Removed package gai-pal
Removed package gai-temp
Removed package python-json
Updated Packages:

NetworkManager-0.7.996-4.git20091002.fc12
-----------------------------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Dan Williams  - 0.7.996-4.git20091002
- install: fix -gnome package %pre script failures (rh #526519)
- nm: fix failures validating private keys when using the NSS crypto backend
- applet: fix crashes when clicking on menu but not associated (rh #526535)
- editor: fix crash editing wired 802.1x settings
- editor: fix secrets retrieval when editing connections


Terminal-0.4.2-2.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.4.2-2
- Fix locale problems in the UI (bugzilla.xfce.org #5842)


chromium-bsu-0.9.14-6.fc12
--------------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Hans de Goede  0.9.14-6
- Switch to quesoglc instead of ftgl (glc is the upstream default)
- This fixes chromium-bsu not finding its font, as quesoglc properly uses
  fontconfig instead of using a hardcoded path to the font (#526995)


dopewars-1.5.12-9.1033svn.fc12
------------------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 1.5.12-8.1033svn
- Update to svn release to address security issues.

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 1.5.12-9.1033svn
- Increment release to be able to tag in F-12.


dracut-002-13.4.git8f397a9b.fc12
--------------------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Harald Hoyer  002-13.2
- do not fail, if libdmraid-events-isw.so is not present

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Harald Hoyer  002-13.3
- removed one wildcard of libdmraid-events-isw.so install

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Jesse Keating  - 002-13.4
- Requires(pre) on plymouth to ensure plymouth is installed before kernel


drupal-service_links-6.x.1.0-5.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Jon Ciesla  - 6.x.1.0-5
- Patch for CVE-2009-3648 from madirish.net, BZ 528200, 528201.


gcc-4.4.1-20.fc12
-----------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Jakub Jelinek  4.4.1-20
- update from gcc-4_4-branch
  - PRs c++/39863, c++/41038
- avoid redundant DW_AT_const_value when abstract origin already has one
  (#527430) 
- another VTA debug stmt renaming bugfix (#521991)

* Mon Oct 05 2009 Jakub Jelinek  4.4.1-19
- update from gcc-4_4-branch
  - PRs fortran/41479, fortran/41515
- VTA backports
  - PRs debug/41353, debug/41404, rtl-optimization/41511
  - another debug info fix for decls passed by reference (#527057,
    PR debug/41558)
  - don't emit DW_AT_name on DW_TAG_const_type (#526970)
- avoid invalid folding of casts to addresses of first fields
  (#527121, PR middle-end/41317)

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Jakub Jelinek  4.4.1-18
- update from gcc-4_4-branch
  - PRs ada/41100, target/22093
- VTA backports
  - PRs debug/41438, debug/41474, target/41279, testsuite/41444
- fix VTA ICE on Linux kernel (#521991)
- AMD Orochi -mfma4 support
- don't run install-info if info files are missing because of --excludedocs
  (#515921, #515960, #515962, #515965, #516000, #516008, #516014)


gdm-2.28.0-9.fc12
-----------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1:2.28.0-8
- Move bubbles to the lower right on the login screen

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Ray Strode  2.28.0-9
- Fix Other... user.

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Ray Strode  - 1:2.28.0-7
- Fix gdm-password / xguest interaction (bug 524421)


gtk2-2.18.2-2.fc12
------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.2-2
- Make selecting the final char work again (#528072)


konversation-1.2-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-1
- konversation-1.2 (final)


libcap-ng-0.6.2-3.fc12
----------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Steve Grubb  0.6.2-3
- Apply patch to retain setpcap only if clearing bounding set


libv4l-0.6.2-1.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Hans de Goede  0.6.2-1
- New upstream release 0.6.2


libvirt-0.7.1-11.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 0.7.1-11
- Fix libvirtd memory leak during error reply sending (#528162)
- Add several PCI hot-unplug typo fixes from upstream


libvoikko-2.2.1-1.fc12
----------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Ville-Pekka Vainio  - 2.2.1-1
- New upstream release, fixes bugs found in 2.2


openoffice.org-3.1.1-19.11.fc12
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Caol?n McNamara  - 1:3.1.1-19.11
- Resolves: rhbz#527177 add openoffice.org-3.1.1.ooo105613.vcl.a11y.exceptions.patch (caolanm)
- Resolves: rhbz#527719 add openoffice.org-3.1.1.oooXXXXXX.vcl.sniffscriptforsubs.patch


openssl-1.0.0-0.9.beta3.fc12
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Tomas Mraz  1.0.0-0.9.beta3
- fix typo in DTLS1 code (#527015)
- fix leak in error handling of d2i_SSL_SESSION()


plymouth-0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.9.fc12
----------------------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Ray Strode  0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.8
- Fix crash in text plugin on shutdown

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Ray Strode  0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.9
- Fix frame-buffer fallback plugin
  (broken by details fix in 0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.7)


pybluez-0.16-2.fc12
-------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Paulo Roma  - 0.16-2
- Applied btmodule patch.


qemu-0.11.0-6.fc12
------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 2:0.11.0-6
- Fix fs errors with virtio and qcow2 backing file (#524734)
- Fix ksm initscript errors on kernel missing ksm (#527653)
- Add missing Requires(post): getent, useradd, groupadd (#527087)

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 2:0.11.0-5
- Add 'retune' verb to ksmtuned init script


qt-4.5.2-25.fc12
----------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-25
- qt webkit crash on drag (#528094)

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 4.5.2-24
- disable JavaScriptCore JIT, SE Linux crashes (#527079)

* Sun Oct 04 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.2-23
- rhel cleanup


selinux-policy-3.6.32-24.fc12
-----------------------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-24
- Add home_cert_t for labeling of certs in the homedir

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-23
- Allow xdm to unlink xauth_home_t


xen-3.4.1-5.fc12
----------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Justin M. Forbes  - 3.4.1-5
- add PyXML to dependencies. (#496135)
- Take ownership of {_libdir}/fs (#521806)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 4
Modified Packages: 22



From drago01 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 13:05:37 2009
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:05:37 +0200
Subject: Test GIMP 2.7/2.8 ?
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: 

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Valent Turkovic
 wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:34:25 +0000, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>
>> I there a way to test new GIMP 2.7/2.8 in Fedora? I looked in Rawhide
>> repos and I still see only 2.6x versions there. Any plans to put 2.7 in
>> Rawhide repost for testing purposes?
>
> Should I ask on development channel?

Rawhide is currently F-12 content so unstable packages will show up
once we have a final F12 compose.



From tirloni at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 13:50:08 2009
From: tirloni at gmail.com (Giovanni P. Tirloni)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:50:08 -0300
Subject: Keyboard layout not sticky.
In-Reply-To: <4AD0243C.50000@gmail.com>
References: <4AD0243C.50000@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5EF11E92-5426-47DA-AB11-417DA0828D3C@gmail.com>


On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:05 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> I've build a rawhide system as of 09oct09. I've set the default  
> language to
> English(UK) and the keyboard layout to Danish. Much to my surprise the
> layout was was set to English(US) at the first reboot after the  
> build. I
> loged out and changed the layout back to Danish. But at the next  
> boot it was
> back to English(US).
>
> What can I do to make it stick to Danish?

  See what you have in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard first, try to change it  
using system-config-keyboard and see if that file is updated with the  
new layout.

  My Rawhide system is updated as of today and it seems to work.

-Giovanni






From epodata at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 15:18:55 2009
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:18:55 +0200
Subject: Keyboard layout not sticky.
In-Reply-To: <5EF11E92-5426-47DA-AB11-417DA0828D3C@gmail.com>
References: <4AD0243C.50000@gmail.com>
	<5EF11E92-5426-47DA-AB11-417DA0828D3C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AD0A5DF.5090509@gmail.com>

On 10/10/09 15:50, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote:
> 
> On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:05 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> 
>> I've build a rawhide system as of 09oct09. I've set the default
>> language to
>> English(UK) and the keyboard layout to Danish. Much to my surprise the
>> layout was was set to English(US) at the first reboot after the build. I
>> loged out and changed the layout back to Danish. But at the next boot
>> it was
>> back to English(US).
>>
>> What can I do to make it stick to Danish?
> 
>  See what you have in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard first, try to change it
> using system-config-keyboard and see if that file is updated with the
> new layout.

Thanks. It's now set to Danish and it sticks. One little scratch though is
that when I am at the logon window it says "Keyboard: USA" but after logon
the layout is truly Danish.

-- 
Cheers
Erik.



From epodata at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 15:43:38 2009
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:43:38 +0200
Subject: Empty boot.log
Message-ID: <4AD0ABAA.9060302@gmail.com>

I see that rawhide's boot.log is empty. What magic makes it write the log
when booting?

-- 
Cheers
Erik.



From bruno at wolff.to  Sat Oct 10 16:44:15 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:44:15 -0500
Subject: Test GIMP 2.7/2.8 ?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
 
Message-ID: <20091010164415.GA23922@wolff.to>

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:52:26 +0000,
  Valent Turkovic  wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:34:25 +0000, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> 
> > I there a way to test new GIMP 2.7/2.8 in Fedora? I looked in Rawhide
> > repos and I still see only 2.6x versions there. Any plans to put 2.7 in
> > Rawhide repost for testing purposes?
> 
> Should I ask on development channel?

You might file an RFE bug against gimp and see what the packager says.



From tirloni at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 18:09:23 2009
From: tirloni at gmail.com (Giovanni P. Tirloni)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:09:23 -0300
Subject: Empty boot.log
In-Reply-To: <4AD0ABAA.9060302@gmail.com>
References: <4AD0ABAA.9060302@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <82F6BDE3-E235-4D40-A868-AC2EAD7077A6@gmail.com>

On Oct 10, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> I see that rawhide's boot.log is empty. What magic makes it write  
> the log
> when booting?

 From what I can tell, that issue has been fixed. I'm running the  
latest kernel from Rawhide (2.6.31.1-56.fc12) and it works fine.

Plymouth is the component responsible for recording those messages in / 
var/log/boot.log when the root fs becomes writeable. You should check  
if plymouthd is running.

Packages:

  kernel-PAE-2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.i686
  plymouth-0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.7.fc12.i686

-Giovanni






From epodata at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 19:00:54 2009
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:00:54 +0200
Subject: Empty boot.log
In-Reply-To: <82F6BDE3-E235-4D40-A868-AC2EAD7077A6@gmail.com>
References: <4AD0ABAA.9060302@gmail.com>
	<82F6BDE3-E235-4D40-A868-AC2EAD7077A6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AD0D9E6.2000201@gmail.com>

On 10/10/09 20:09, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote:
> On Oct 10, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>> I see that rawhide's boot.log is empty. What magic makes it write the log
>> when booting?
> 
> From what I can tell, that issue has been fixed. I'm running the latest
> kernel from Rawhide (2.6.31.1-56.fc12) and it works fine.
> 
> Plymouth is the component responsible for recording those messages in
> /var/log/boot.log when the root fs becomes writeable. You should check
> if plymouthd is running.
> 
> Packages:
> 
>  kernel-PAE-2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.i686
>  plymouth-0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.7.fc12.i686
> 

Same plymouth but:
kernel-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686

Your kernel seems to be different from the latest rawhide kernel which mine
is. Could it be that this issue is fixed in your version of the kernel and
not in mine?

-- 
Cheers
Erik.





From tirloni at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 19:05:04 2009
From: tirloni at gmail.com (Giovanni P. Tirloni)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:05:04 -0300
Subject: Empty boot.log
In-Reply-To: <4AD0D9E6.2000201@gmail.com>
References: <4AD0ABAA.9060302@gmail.com>
	<82F6BDE3-E235-4D40-A868-AC2EAD7077A6@gmail.com>
	<4AD0D9E6.2000201@gmail.com>
Message-ID: 


On Oct 10, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> On 10/10/09 20:09, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote:
>> On Oct 10, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>>> I see that rawhide's boot.log is empty. What magic makes it write  
>>> the log
>>> when booting?
>>
>> From what I can tell, that issue has been fixed. I'm running the  
>> latest
>> kernel from Rawhide (2.6.31.1-56.fc12) and it works fine.
>>
>> Plymouth is the component responsible for recording those messages in
>> /var/log/boot.log when the root fs becomes writeable. You should  
>> check
>> if plymouthd is running.
>>
>> Packages:
>>
>> kernel-PAE-2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.i686
>> plymouth-0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.7.fc12.i686
>>
>
> Same plymouth but:
> kernel-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686
>
> Your kernel seems to be different from the latest rawhide kernel  
> which mine
> is. Could it be that this issue is fixed in your version of the  
> kernel and
> not in mine?

My fault, I have the same kernel (wrong copy/paste).

# uname -a
Linux vm-fedora12.gtirloni 2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Tue Sep 29  
16:16:16 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

-Giovanni






From epodata at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 21:18:09 2009
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:18:09 +0200
Subject: Empty boot.log
In-Reply-To: <82F6BDE3-E235-4D40-A868-AC2EAD7077A6@gmail.com>
References: <4AD0ABAA.9060302@gmail.com>
	<82F6BDE3-E235-4D40-A868-AC2EAD7077A6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AD0FA11.30008@gmail.com>

On 10/10/09 20:09, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote:

> Plymouth is the component responsible for recording those messages in
> /var/log/boot.log when the root fs becomes writeable. You should check
> if plymouthd is running.

How do I check if plymouthd is running when I don't see the boot messages
and boot.log is empty?

-- 
Cheers
Erik.



From tirloni at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 22:32:25 2009
From: tirloni at gmail.com (Giovanni P. Tirloni)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:32:25 -0300
Subject: Empty boot.log
In-Reply-To: <4AD0FA11.30008@gmail.com>
References: <4AD0ABAA.9060302@gmail.com>
	<82F6BDE3-E235-4D40-A868-AC2EAD7077A6@gmail.com>
	<4AD0FA11.30008@gmail.com>
Message-ID: 


On Oct 10, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> On 10/10/09 20:09, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote:
>
>> Plymouth is the component responsible for recording those messages in
>> /var/log/boot.log when the root fs becomes writeable. You should  
>> check
>> if plymouthd is running.
>
> How do I check if plymouthd is running when I don't see the boot  
> messages
> and boot.log is empty?

# ps ax | grep plymouth
   105 ?        S      0:02 /bin/plymouthd --attach-to-session

# ps axZ | grep plymouth
system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0     105 ?        S      0:02 /bin/ 
plymouthd --attach-to-session

# ls -lZ /var/log/boot.log
-rw-r--r--. root root system_u:object_r:var_log_t:s0   boot.log


Are all the other log files in /var/log working fine ? Your  
rsyslog.conf should have a line like this:

# grep local7 /etc/rsyslog.conf
local7.*                                                /var/log/ 
boot.log


-Giovanni






From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 22:33:32 2009
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:33:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Test GIMP 2.7/2.8 ?
References:  
	
Message-ID: 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:05:37 +0200, drago01 wrote:

> Rawhide is currently F-12 content so unstable packages will show up once
> we have a final F12 compose.

Sure, that makes sense. Thank you for your reply.



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From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 22:34:56 2009
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:34:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: No IRC support in Fedora 12?!?
References: 
	<52733fad0910100728y25d19da5ia34c5da02330476c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:28:14 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:

> Install SeaMonkey. And there you have a IRC client built-in, Chatzilla.

Anybody can install also pidgin, xchat or some other client, that is not 
the point. 

The point is that by default official Fedora Desktop Live CD will have 
one feature less than the previous release.



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From caf at omen.com  Sun Oct 11 03:13:09 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:13:09 -0700
Subject: What's with ImageTk?
Message-ID: <4AD14D45.3090502@omen.com>

I was trying to compile and run the ham radio WSJT
program.  It requires ImageTk which is missing in
Rawhide's Python.

A bit of Googling suggests this has been issue
since at least Fedora 7.

Is there some reason this Python module is available
for Ubuntu but not Fedora?

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
   Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From cmadams at hiwaay.net  Sun Oct 11 03:17:18 2009
From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:17:18 -0500
Subject: What's with ImageTk?
In-Reply-To: <4AD14D45.3090502@omen.com>
References: <4AD14D45.3090502@omen.com>
Message-ID: <20091011031718.GB735778@hiwaay.net>

Once upon a time, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R  said:
> I was trying to compile and run the ham radio WSJT
> program.  It requires ImageTk which is missing in
> Rawhide's Python.
> 
> A bit of Googling suggests this has been issue
> since at least Fedora 7.

Did you actually read any of the hits from Google?  I found the answer
in the first link from "ImageTk Fedora".
-- 
Chris Adams 
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



From epodata at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 10:14:05 2009
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:14:05 +0200
Subject: Empty boot.log
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4AD0ABAA.9060302@gmail.com>	<82F6BDE3-E235-4D40-A868-AC2EAD7077A6@gmail.com>	<4AD0FA11.30008@gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4AD1AFED.9040208@gmail.com>

On 11/10/09 00:32, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote:
> 
> On Oct 10, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> 
>> On 10/10/09 20:09, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote:
>>
>>> Plymouth is the component responsible for recording those messages in
>>> /var/log/boot.log when the root fs becomes writeable. You should check
>>> if plymouthd is running.
>>
>> How do I check if plymouthd is running when I don't see the boot messages
>> and boot.log is empty?
> 
> # ps ax | grep plymouth
>   105 ?        S      0:02 /bin/plymouthd --attach-to-session
> 
> # ps axZ | grep plymouth
> system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0     105 ?        S      0:02
> /bin/plymouthd --attach-to-session
> 
> # ls -lZ /var/log/boot.log
> -rw-r--r--. root root system_u:object_r:var_log_t:s0   boot.log
> 
> 
> Are all the other log files in /var/log working fine ? Your rsyslog.conf
> should have a line like this:
> 
> # grep local7 /etc/rsyslog.conf
> local7.*                                                /var/log/boot.log

[root at epotest ~]# ps ax|grep plymouth
 1840 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep plymouth

[root at epotest ~]# ps axZ|grep plymouth
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 1842 pts/0 S+   0:00
grep plymouth

[root at epotest ~]# ls -lZ /var/log/boot.log
-rw-------. root root system_u:object_r:var_log_t:s0   /var/log/boot.log

[root at epotest ~]# grep local7 /etc/rsyslog.conf
local7.*                                                   /var/log/boot.log

-- 
Cheers
Erik.




From pp at ee.oulu.fi  Sun Oct 11 11:57:31 2009
From: pp at ee.oulu.fi (Pekka Pietikainen)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:57:31 +0300
Subject: youtube weirdness
In-Reply-To: <20091009112648.GA11640@ee.oulu.fi>
References: <4ACE8532.4040109@bothner.com>
	<1255057992.2339.1.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4ACEAB43.8070606@kamens.brookline.ma.us>
	<4ACEC0ED.8010402@bothner.com> <20091009112648.GA11640@ee.oulu.fi>
Message-ID: <20091011115731.GA29393@ee.oulu.fi>

On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 02:26:48PM +0300, Pekka Pietikainen wrote:
> Some sort of focus/event-related thing I suppose, could be nspluginwrapper
> or some generic X library thing, firefox+flash are more or less the same as
> in f11, right?
yup, rpm -e nspluginwrapper and it's allllll happy now.

Mind you, saw the same issue happen at a friend running pretty much
the latest ubuntu, they seem to have some datapoints too:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspluginwrapper/+bug/141494

(metacity here, not compiz)

-- 
Pekka Pietikainen



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 11 12:03:30 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:03:30 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091011 changes
Message-ID: <20091011120330.GA20375@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sun Oct 11 06:15:06 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.x86_64 requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc64 requires python-json



Updated Packages:

NetworkManager-openvpn-0.7.996-4.git20090923.fc12
-------------------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Dan Williams  - 1:0.7.996-4.git20090923
- Rebuild for updated NetworkManager


NetworkManager-vpnc-0.7.996-4.git20090921.fc12
----------------------------------------------
* Sat Oct 03 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1:0.7.996-4
- Rebuild for updated NetworkManager


anaconda-12.36-1.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 David Cantrell  - 12.36-1
- Reset PartitionDevice attributes after failed edit. (#498026) (dlehman)
- Fix cut/paste error in commit 299519d4a0693330ff6a50f3111d61feefabb0da.
  (dlehman)
- Consider encryption when checking for duplicate mountpoint. (#526697)
  (dlehman)
- Fix filtering out of 'Sending translation for' log messages in bumpver.
  (rvykydal)
- Use addUdevPartitionDevice() for adding dmraid / multipath partitions
  (#527785) (hdegoede)
- Set partedPartition system to the correct FS when creating an FS (hdegoede)
- Reset parted flags in createFormat not destroyFormat (hdegoede)
- Default to mbr bootloader target for mdraid 1 boot device too (#526822).
  (rvykydal)
- Clear out state before calling XkbGetState. (clumens)


control-center-2.28.0-16.fc12
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-16
- Cosmetic change to the background tab in the appearance capplet


exo-0.3.104-1.fc12
------------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.3.103-1
- Update to 0.3.103
- Drop patches for URL quoting and default mount options (fixed upstream)
- Revert useless touch -r trick

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.3.103-2
- Disable parallel make due to multilib conflicts.

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.3.104-1
- Update to 0.3.104


kde-l10n-4.3.2-1.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2

* Sat Oct 03 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- main virtual subpkg


kdeaccessibility-4.3.2-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Sun Oct 04 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdeadmin-4.3.2-1.fc12
---------------------
* Sun Oct 04 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdeartwork-4.3.2-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Sun Oct 04 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdebase-4.3.2-3.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-3
- backport upstream patch for bookmark editor drag&drop crash (kde#160679)

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- fix Dolphin crash (regression)

* Sun Oct 04 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdebase-runtime-4.3.2-2.fc12
----------------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Rex Dieter  4.3.2-2
- BR: bzip2-devel xz-devel
- -libs: move Requires: kdepimlibs... here

* Sun Oct 04 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 4.3.1-3
- if available, use the "manpath" command in the man kioslave to determine man
  page file locations

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 4.3.1-4
- fix manpath patch (spotted by Kevin Kofler)


kdebase-workspace-4.3.2-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Sun Oct 04 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdebindings-4.3.2-1.fc12
------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdeedu-4.3.2-1.fc12
-------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdegames-4.3.2-1.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdegraphics-4.3.2-3.fc12
------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- rhel cleanup

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-3
- okular does not handle escaped URL correctly (kde#207461)

* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdelibs-4.3.2-3.fc12
--------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-3
- khtml kpart crasher (kde #207173/209876)

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- fix a deadlock in KLocale

* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdelibs-experimental-4.3.2-1.fc12
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdemultimedia-4.3.2-1.fc12
--------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdenetwork-4.3.2-3.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-3
- fix BR to be on kdelibs-experimental-devel, not kdelibs-experimental

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- enable jingle

* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdepim-4.3.2-1.fc12
-------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdepim-runtime-4.3.2-1.fc12
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdepimlibs-4.3.2-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdeplasma-addons-4.3.2-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdesdk-4.3.2-1.fc12
-------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdetoys-4.3.2-1.fc12
--------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


kdeutils-4.3.2-1.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


openal-soft-1.9.563-1.d6e439244ae00a1750f0dc8b249f47efb4967a23git.fc12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Hans de Goede  - 1.9.563-1.d6e439244ae00a1750f0dc8b249f47efb4967a23git
- Update to 1.9.563 + some fixes from git
- This fixes:
  - Not having any sound in chromium-bsu 
  - Various openal using programs hanging on exit


oxygen-icon-theme-4.3.2-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 29



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 11 12:19:40 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:49:40 +0530
Subject: Dual monitor and GNOME screensaver
Message-ID: <4AD1CD5C.7080209@fedoraproject.org>

Hi,

I have a additional monitor connected to my Dell D420 laptop and in
GNOME, if I switch off my laptop display and turn on the bigger monitor
only and lock the screen, X crashes and I get thrown back to GDM. Anyone
else seen a similar issue? This is the latest Rawhide.

Smolt profile:

http://smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_de7ca5e0-60e7-458b-96d7-961c2c150cf7

Rahul



From tirloni at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 13:15:39 2009
From: tirloni at gmail.com (Giovanni P. Tirloni)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:15:39 -0300
Subject: Empty boot.log
In-Reply-To: <4AD1AFED.9040208@gmail.com>
References: <4AD0ABAA.9060302@gmail.com>	<82F6BDE3-E235-4D40-A868-AC2EAD7077A6@gmail.com>	<4AD0FA11.30008@gmail.com>
	
	<4AD1AFED.9040208@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3B258CAC-C289-4190-B5D4-E2D7B1E8CBCC@gmail.com>


On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> [root at epotest ~]# ps ax|grep plymouth
> 1840 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep plymouth
>
> [root at epotest ~]# ps axZ|grep plymouth
> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 1842 pts/0 S 
> +   0:00
> grep plymouth
>
> [root at epotest ~]# ls -lZ /var/log/boot.log
> -rw-------. root root system_u:object_r:var_log_t:s0   /var/log/ 
> boot.log
>
> [root at epotest ~]# grep local7 /etc/rsyslog.conf
> local7.*                                                   /var/log/ 
> boot.log

This is unknown terrority for me but I'll try to help further.

You should try to find out why plymouthd is not running, that's  
possibly the root cause for this problem.

Here for kernel 2.6.31.1-56.fc1 I have the following grub.conf entry:

title Fedora (2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE)
	root (hd0,0)
	kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/ 
VolGroup-lv_root rhgb quiet
	initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE.img

That initramfs file contains a 10plymouth-pretrigger.sh file that  
seems to create basic devices and start plymouthd --attach-to-session.

Now for kernel 2.6.31-0.125.rc5.git2.fc2, grub.conf has this:

title Fedora (2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.i686.PAE)
         root (hd0,0)
         kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.i686.PAE ro  
root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root rhgb quiet
         initrd /initrd-2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.i686.PAE.img

The initrd file does have plymouth in it...

# find . -name '*plymouth*'
./bin/plymouthd
./bin/plymouth
./usr/share/plymouth
./usr/share/plymouth/themes/text/text.plymouth
./usr/share/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth
./usr/share/plymouth/themes/details/details.plymouth
./usr/lib/plymouth

... but it's started in a different way:

# cat init
...
daemonize --ignore-missing /bin/plymouthd
plymouth --show-splash
...

I cannot find this daemonize file anywhere in the initrd image for  
2.6.31-0.125.4.2.fc5.git2. It's also not installed in my system, which  
if it was, wouldn't help either because it'd not be in the initrd image.

daemonize-1.5.6-2.fc12.i686 : Run a command as a Unix daemon

So my question is, how is grub.conf configured for you 2.6.31.1-56  
kernel ? Is it using the newer initramfs ?


-Giovanni






From epodata at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 16:42:43 2009
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:42:43 +0200
Subject: Empty boot.log
In-Reply-To: <3B258CAC-C289-4190-B5D4-E2D7B1E8CBCC@gmail.com>
References: <4AD0ABAA.9060302@gmail.com>	<82F6BDE3-E235-4D40-A868-AC2EAD7077A6@gmail.com>	<4AD0FA11.30008@gmail.com>		<4AD1AFED.9040208@gmail.com>
	<3B258CAC-C289-4190-B5D4-E2D7B1E8CBCC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AD20B03.5060008@gmail.com>

On 11/10/09 15:15, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote:
> Here for kernel 2.6.31.1-56.fc1 I have the following grub.conf entry:
> 
> title Fedora (2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE)
>     root (hd0,0)
>     kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE ro
> root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root rhgb quiet
>     initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE.img
> 
> That initramfs file contains a 10plymouth-pretrigger.sh file that seems
> to create basic devices and start plymouthd --attach-to-session.
> 
> Now for kernel 2.6.31-0.125.rc5.git2.fc2, grub.conf has this:
> 
> title Fedora (2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.i686.PAE)
>         root (hd0,0)
>         kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.i686.PAE ro
> root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root rhgb quiet
>         initrd /initrd-2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.i686.PAE.img
> 
> The initrd file does have plymouth in it...
> 
> # find . -name '*plymouth*'
> ./bin/plymouthd
> ./bin/plymouth
> ./usr/share/plymouth
> ./usr/share/plymouth/themes/text/text.plymouth
> ./usr/share/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth
> ./usr/share/plymouth/themes/details/details.plymouth
> ./usr/lib/plymouth
> 
> ... but it's started in a different way:
> 
> # cat init
> ...
> daemonize --ignore-missing /bin/plymouthd
> plymouth --show-splash
> ...
> 
> I cannot find this daemonize file anywhere in the initrd image for
> 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.fc5.git2. It's also not installed in my system, which
> if it was, wouldn't help either because it'd not be in the initrd image.
> 
> daemonize-1.5.6-2.fc12.i686 : Run a command as a Unix daemon
> 
> So my question is, how is grub.conf configured for you 2.6.31.1-56
> kernel ? Is it using the newer initramfs ?

I have just few minutes ago updated rawhide and since it contained several
plymouth packages I had hoped that the problem was fixed. Alas, it wasn't.

My grub.conf although strictly build by anaconda and yum is totally different
from yours:

title Fedora (2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686)
	root (hd0,0)
	kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_epotest-lv_root
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=dk quiet
	initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.img

I believe your system is quite different from mine, for example I can't "cat
init" because it is a module. I think I'll have to file an issue with bugzilla.

Thanks for your efforts,

-- 
Cheers
Erik.



From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Mon Oct 12 00:20:36 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:20:36 +1100
Subject: Potential blockers for FC12
In-Reply-To: <1254507439.2163.19.camel@localhost>
References: <1254491778.3065.3.camel@localhost>
	<1254495147.2269.61.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1254497567.3624.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254500785.2546.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1254504467.3624.97.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1254505497.2163.14.camel@localhost> <1254506550.2704.2.camel@metroid>
	<1254507439.2163.19.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1255306836.2805.13.camel@moose.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 20:17 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> fr., 02.10.2009 kl. 14.02 -0400, skrev Will Woods:
> > On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 19:44 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> >  
> > > I also see freezes without having suspended which is what the last
> > > report I listed was about. This is with i945. The problem started for me
> > > when KMS was enabled which IIRC was before F11 so it could still be
> > > related.
> > 
> > Are you sure it's an actual freeze? Some i915 laptops have had problems
> > with the display going dark after lid close - see 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489907
> > and
> > http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21230
> > which is the upstream bug.
> > 
> > The system is still active, the screen has just gone back. And note that
> > actual suspend/resume works totally fine (and the display comes back
> > normally) for my system that has this problem. Switching the system to
> > suspend on all lid closes (even on battery) makes life much more
> > bearable.
> > 
> The freezes I've seen have happened after boot and without me closing
> the lid at all so I think this is something separate.
> 
> The "hang" after suspend/resume looks like it could be something like
> this though. Hitting caps lock turns on the led at least. I still can't
> even shut down using the power button or ctrl+alt+delete.
> 
> I'll look at the reports above and comment if it seems relatede.

I've been having problems with my system locking up completely after
(usually) less than a minute requiring a long press of the power button
to be able to reboot.

I'm on a Dell Laptop with and ati chipset, so if this is the same then
it may not be an 'intel' thing.

I've looking into the X log, but it doesn't seem to contain anything
useful for reporting.

This has been a problem for about 6 weeks (in my case) but with limited
time and having been away for the past three weeks, I haven't had a
chance to report and had hoped it would resolve in the 3 weeks I was
away (it hasn't).

I've even had these lockups when in a VT (with X still running in
background).


R.



From harald at redhat.com  Mon Oct 12 11:24:05 2009
From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:24:05 +0200
Subject: dracut speed and kernel version
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4AD311D5.6040808@redhat.com>

On 10/09/2009 10:20 PM, Adam Pribyl wrote:
> This is my first time I was forced to "hand use" dracut, because
> initramfs build by kernel install does not work (due to kexec-tool bug).
>
> But I was surprised by few thinks:
>
> 1. dracut accepts as a kernel version non existing kernel name and
> builds the initramfs - this is really crazy (there are some warnings,
> but it tooks a bit of time before first "File does not exist".)
>

You are right.. will add a precheck.

> 2. dracut initramfs build takes ages compared to mkinitrd

Does it really matter? How often do you build an initramfs per week?

>
> 3. dracut spits some confusing warnings, I am not sure what to do with:
> W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko
> W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
> W: Possible missing firmware ql2500_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
> W: Possible missing firmware ql2400_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
> W: Possible missing firmware ql2322_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
> W: Possible missing firmware ql2300_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
> W: Possible missing firmware ql2200_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
> W: Possible missing firmware ql2100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>
> Am I doin' something wrong or this is expected behaviour?

Well, there are some modules which might require a firmware. Dracut is only 
reporting that they are missing. Just in case...
Maybe I should suppress these warnings.. what do you think?

>
> Adam Pribyl
>



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 12 12:38:26 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:38:26 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091012 changes
Message-ID: <20091012123826.GA6808@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Mon Oct 12 06:15:12 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.x86_64 requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc64 requires python-json



Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct 12 12:47:24 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:47:24 -0400
Subject: 2009-10-12 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting Agenda
Message-ID: <1255351644.2243.132.camel@localhost.localdomain>

# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2009-10-12
# Time: 16:00 UTC (12 EDT)
# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 

Thanks to some hard work, we have a Beta release candidate in the works.
I'd like to propose spending a moment reviewing the beta RC test
strategy along with an update on other recent topics of interest.
Proposed agenda ...

        1. Previous meeting follow-up:
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20091005#Action_items
        
        2. Beta RC1 arrival eminent
        
        3. AutoQA Update
        
        4. How_to_Debug_ wiki pages
        
        5. 

See you there!
James
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From davej at redhat.com  Mon Oct 12 16:11:37 2009
From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:11:37 -0400
Subject: dracut speed and kernel version
In-Reply-To: <4AD311D5.6040808@redhat.com>
References: 
	<4AD311D5.6040808@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20091012161136.GB3265@redhat.com>

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 01:24:05PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
 
 > > W: Possible missing firmware ql2500_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
 > > W: Possible missing firmware ql2400_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
 > > W: Possible missing firmware ql2322_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
 > > W: Possible missing firmware ql2300_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
 > > W: Possible missing firmware ql2200_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
 > > W: Possible missing firmware ql2100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
 > >
 > > Am I doin' something wrong or this is expected behaviour?
 > 
 > Well, there are some modules which might require a firmware. Dracut is only 
 > reporting that they are missing. Just in case...
 > Maybe I should suppress these warnings.. what do you think?

I would opt to suppress them, or hide them behind a debug switch.
These will likely cause bugs to be filed every time kernel-firmware lags
behind the kernel.

	Dave



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Mon Oct 12 16:28:18 2009
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:28:18 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: dracut speed and kernel version
In-Reply-To: <4AD311D5.6040808@redhat.com>
References: 
	<4AD311D5.6040808@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Harald Hoyer wrote:

> On 10/09/2009 10:20 PM, Adam Pribyl wrote:
>> This is my first time I was forced to "hand use" dracut, because
>> initramfs build by kernel install does not work (due to kexec-tool bug).
>> 
>> But I was surprised by few thinks:
>> 
>> 1. dracut accepts as a kernel version non existing kernel name and
>> builds the initramfs - this is really crazy (there are some warnings,
>> but it tooks a bit of time before first "File does not exist".)
>> 
>
> You are right.. will add a precheck.
>

Thanks.

>> 2. dracut initramfs build takes ages compared to mkinitrd
>
> Does it really matter? How often do you build an initramfs per week?
>

Well... speed allways mathers. I am not using it daily today, but remember 
the time when I was looking for proper module preload configuration for 
some rare scsi device and was building it very often. I am under 
impression that with every kernel build you need to regenerate initramfs, 
to have correct modules loaded on next reboot.. and this I was used to do 
very often. Then every delay counts.

>> 3. dracut spits some confusing warnings, I am not sure what to do with:
>> W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko
>> W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>> W: Possible missing firmware ql2500_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>> W: Possible missing firmware ql2400_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>> W: Possible missing firmware ql2322_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>> W: Possible missing firmware ql2300_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>> W: Possible missing firmware ql2200_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>> W: Possible missing firmware ql2100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>> 
>> Am I doin' something wrong or this is expected behaviour?
>
> Well, there are some modules which might require a firmware. Dracut is only 
> reporting that they are missing. Just in case...
> Maybe I should suppress these warnings.. what do you think?

I would suppress them, let them print in "debug" mode.

>> Adam Pribyl


Adam Pribyl



From andre at bwh.harvard.edu  Mon Oct 12 17:28:58 2009
From: andre at bwh.harvard.edu (Andre Robatino)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:28:58 -0400
Subject: old noarch RPMs breaking deltaisos
Message-ID: <4AD3675A.6010806@bwh.harvard.edu>

Beta RC1 contains many noarch RPMs built before the xz endianness
problem was fixed.  These prevent usable deltaisos from being built on
Rawhide.  (They can be built on F10/F11 since deltarpm for these
versions has no xz support, but are much bigger than they should be as a
result.  And once F10 goes EOL and F11's deltarpm gets xz support, even
this will no longer be possible.)  How hard would it be to
systematically rebuild all of these?

Also, I made the mistake of deleting my 12-Beta-TC ISOs.  However, these
are still on the alt.fedoraproject.org server at the same time as
12-Beta-RC1.  Could someone with access to this server make the
deltaisos and put them right on the server, where they belong?  It needs
to be done on F10/F11, as mentioned above.  The syntax is

makedeltaiso oldiso newiso deltaiso

where makedeltaiso is in the deltaiso package.  Your testers will thank
you.  (OpenSUSE has been doing this for years.)  They should be around
10-15% of the full ISO size, which even though bigger than necessary, is
still well worth it.

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From andre at bwh.harvard.edu  Mon Oct 12 17:36:36 2009
From: andre at bwh.harvard.edu (Andre Robatino)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:36:36 -0400
Subject: old noarch RPMs breaking deltaisos
In-Reply-To: <4AD3675A.6010806@bwh.harvard.edu>
References: <4AD3675A.6010806@bwh.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <4AD36924.2010307@bwh.harvard.edu>

On 10/12/2009 01:28 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:

> where makedeltaiso is in the deltaiso package.

Actually, on F10/F11, makedeltaiso is still in the deltarpm package.  Sorry.

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From jamatos at fc.up.pt  Mon Oct 12 18:07:11 2009
From: jamatos at fc.up.pt (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jos=E9_Matos?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:07:11 +0100
Subject: no usb device with 2.6.31 kernels on rawhide
In-Reply-To: <1254423651.2388.223.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <200910011923.21285.jamatos@fc.up.pt>
	<1254423651.2388.223.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <200910121907.11748.jamatos@fc.up.pt>

On Thursday 01 October 2009 James Laska wrote:
>   On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 19:23 +0100, Jos? Matos wrote:
> > To make the story short I bought a new laptop, I tried to install with
> > the  latest installer but failed for several (already reported) reasons
> > and I was forced to use the Alpha installer.
> 
> Out of curiosity, do you recall the already reported reasons?

I sorry I tried to retrieve the used bugzilla reports. The major problem was 
related with some package having symbolic links in the dm (disc management) 
area but after trying to get the bugzilla reports I have read without success 
I gave up.

I have reported the bug as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528545

Thanks,
-- 
Jos? Ab?lio



From poelstra at redhat.com  Mon Oct 12 18:12:05 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:12:05 -0700
Subject: Schedule reminder for 2009-10-12
Message-ID: <4AD37175.10102@redhat.com>

   Start       End         Name
Thu 08-Oct  Thu 15-Oct  Test Beta Candidate
Mon 12-Oct  Mon 12-Oct  Beta Blocker Bug (go/no go)
Wed 14-Oct  Wed 14-Oct  Beta Project Wide Release Readiness Meeting
Thu 15-Oct  Thu 15-Oct  Start Stage & Sync Beta to Mirrors
Thu 15-Oct  Tue 20-Oct  Stage & Sync Beta to Mirrors
Fri 16-Oct  Fri 16-Oct  Beta Export Control Reporting
Tue 20-Oct  Tue 20-Oct  Beta Release Public Availability
Tue 20-Oct  Mon 02-Nov  Beta Testing
Fri 23-Oct  Fri 23-Oct  Blocker Bug Day (F12Blocker) #1

p.s. Thank you to the people who emailed me ideas on how to format these 
messages better. I'm still working on it.



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct 12 20:42:31 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:42:31 -0400
Subject: 2009-10-12 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting Recap
In-Reply-To: <1255351644.2243.132.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1255351644.2243.132.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1255380151.2243.309.camel@localhost.localdomain>

==================================
#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting
==================================


Meeting started by jlaska at 16:00:05 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-12/fedora-meeting.2009-10-12-16.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* Gathering in the lobby  (jlaska, 16:00:18)

* Previous meeting follow-up  (jlaska, 16:04:24)
  * hardware shipment in transit to PHX2 ... jlaska and mmcgrath will
    work the next steps as hardware comes online  (jlaska, 16:06:38)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_PreBeta_Install
    (jlaska, 16:10:14)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_Beta_TC_Install
    (jlaska, 16:10:18)
  * Oxf13 expressed concerns that recent blocker bugs could have been
    found prior to the freeze  (jlaska, 16:14:34)
  * ACTION: jlaska will investigate the 5 anaconda F12Beta issues to
    determine when the failures were introduced  (jlaska, 16:17:20)

* F-12-Beta RC1 QA strategy  (jlaska, 16:20:06)
  * dlehman determining how to debug 526899 on a live install  (jlaska,
    16:22:32)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_Beta_RC1_Install
    (jlaska, 16:24:05)
  * LINK:
    http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng-tasks.html
    (jlaska, 16:25:55)

* AutoQA Updates  (jlaska, 16:28:15)
  * wwoods isolated and patched the preupgrade issue (526208), another
    update coming in a 1.1.1-4 build of preupgrade  (jlaska, 16:30:55)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/65   (wwoods, 16:32:03)
  * wwoods looking into posting critical path package list to the wiki -
    currently blocked since JSON doesn't allow edit/create pages
    (jlaska, 16:40:19)
  * ACTION: jlaska to investigate packaging of israwhidebroken.com for
    production instance  (jlaska, 16:42:43)
  * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TurboGears_Infrastructure_SOP
    (wwoods, 16:43:55)

* AutoQA Updates (packagediff)  (jlaska, 16:45:14)
  * kparal has implemented a majority of the important rpm checks (see
    https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/54#comment:2)  (jlaska,
    16:45:50)
  * kparal taking project naming suggestions (candidates include:
    'rpmguard', 'rpmjudge' or 'rpmblame')  (jlaska, 16:47:29)
  * ACTION: jlaska to request autoqa-devel@ for autoqa development
    discussion and patch review  (jlaska, 16:55:00)

* How_to_Debug_ wiki pages  (jlaska, 16:59:42)
  * Viking_Ice started a great discussion around how best to improve the
    current Category:Debugging content -
    https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00112.html
    (jlaska, 17:00:55)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:How_to_debug
    (jlaska, 17:05:28)
  * Viking-Ice would like feedback on a naming convention for future
    pages.  Candidates include: "How to debug ". or
    "component  problems" or "bug info "  (jlaska,
    17:07:43)
  * Viking-Ice would like more feedback from reporters on what Debug
    pages to see next  (jlaska, 17:20:27)
  * Viking-Ice may focus attentiong on improving the existing
    Virtualization bug reporting guide  (jlaska, 17:22:09)

* Open Discussion -   (jlaska, 17:24:01)

Meeting ended at 17:26:44 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* jlaska will investigate the 5 anaconda F12Beta issues to determine
  when the failures were introduced
* jlaska to investigate packaging of israwhidebroken.com for production
  instance
* jlaska to request autoqa-devel@ for autoqa development discussion and
  patch review




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jlaska
  * jlaska will investigate the 5 anaconda F12Beta issues to determine
    when the failures were introduced
  * jlaska to investigate packaging of israwhidebroken.com for
    production instance
  * jlaska to request autoqa-devel@ for autoqa development discussion
    and patch review
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* jlaska (176)
* wwoods (38)
* Viking-Ice (26)
* kparal (24)
* Oxf13 (18)
* gtirloni (4)
* denise (3)
* nirik (2)
* iarlyy (2)
* zodbot (2)
* pknirsch (2)
* buggbot (1)




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From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Mon Oct 12 22:07:04 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:07:04 +0200
Subject: Issues with gnome-sudoku timing reporting
Message-ID: <4AD3A888.7050302@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

After upgrading from fc11 to rawhide (fc12) I have been experiencing 
problems with statistics in gnome-sudoku of gnome games. It now usually 
reports that I solved the puzzle in 54 seconds. I am good, but not that 
good. This was reported in bugzilla 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512850 but hasn't had any 
response yet. So, I tried to debug it myself. Unfortunately, if I build 
the package myself, it behaves correctly. So how do I debug the 
distributed program?



From lili at redhat.com  Tue Oct 13 03:21:56 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:21:56 +0800
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
Message-ID: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com>

Hello,

     The release engineering is composing F12 Beta RC2 with anaconda 
12.37. We can see from f12 Beta blocker list[1] that almost all bugs 
which related to installation were fixed and removed from list.After 
PreBeta testing and BetaTC testing, a lot of bugs have been fixed.So 
this round of install testing is valuable to validate whether the Beta 
is qualified enough.Once finish composing,the ISO will be available for 
downloading at:
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/

     I have created a matrix for testers to select test cases and post 
test results at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_Beta_RC2_Install

    If get some defects during testing,please refer to bug reporting 
guidance[2], any question,get help from:
   * IRC: #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net
   * Mailing list: fedora-test-list
   * Reference of ways to communicate at:
     https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate

  [1] 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F12Beta&hide_resolved=1
  [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests

Thanks
Liam



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 05:46:22 2009
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (Petrus de Calguarium)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:46:22 -0600
Subject: PulseAudio in-/output device confusion
Message-ID: 

Output devices:

PulseAudio
Default
HDA Intel
PulseAudio Sound Server

Input devices:

PulseAudio Sound Server
Default
HDA Intel

Voil? the devices present on my system and the order of 
preference for each of in-/output devices.

My question:

Is this the optimal ordering for PulseAudio for each of 
in-/output? And why does output have both PulseAudio 
*and* PulseAudio Sound Server (is one be a vestigial 
rudiment of an earlier release)?



From harald at redhat.com  Tue Oct 13 07:09:13 2009
From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:09:13 +0200
Subject: dracut speed and kernel version
In-Reply-To: 
References: 	<4AD311D5.6040808@redhat.com>
	
Message-ID: <4AD42799.30601@redhat.com>

On 10/12/2009 06:28 PM, Adam Pribyl wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Harald Hoyer wrote:
>
>> On 10/09/2009 10:20 PM, Adam Pribyl wrote:
>>> This is my first time I was forced to "hand use" dracut, because
>>> initramfs build by kernel install does not work (due to kexec-tool bug).
>>>
>>> But I was surprised by few thinks:
>>>
>>> 1. dracut accepts as a kernel version non existing kernel name and
>>> builds the initramfs - this is really crazy (there are some warnings,
>>> but it tooks a bit of time before first "File does not exist".)
>>>
>>
>> You are right.. will add a precheck.
>>
>
> Thanks.
>
>>> 2. dracut initramfs build takes ages compared to mkinitrd
>>
>> Does it really matter? How often do you build an initramfs per week?
>>
>
> Well... speed allways mathers. I am not using it daily today, but
> remember the time when I was looking for proper module preload
> configuration for some rare scsi device and was building it very often.
> I am under impression that with every kernel build you need to
> regenerate initramfs, to have correct modules loaded on next reboot..
> and this I was used to do very often. Then every delay counts.

edit /etc/dracut.conf and enable the hostonly option, then you will have a fast 
initramfs build, as well as smaller images.

>
>>> 3. dracut spits some confusing warnings, I am not sure what to do with:
>>> W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko
>>> W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>>> W: Possible missing firmware ql2500_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>>> W: Possible missing firmware ql2400_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>>> W: Possible missing firmware ql2322_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>>> W: Possible missing firmware ql2300_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>>> W: Possible missing firmware ql2200_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>>> W: Possible missing firmware ql2100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>>>
>>> Am I doin' something wrong or this is expected behaviour?
>>
>> Well, there are some modules which might require a firmware. Dracut is
>> only reporting that they are missing. Just in case...
>> Maybe I should suppress these warnings.. what do you think?
>
> I would suppress them, let them print in "debug" mode.
>
>>> Adam Pribyl
>
>
> Adam Pribyl
>



From lili at redhat.com  Tue Oct 13 08:07:28 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:07:28 +0800
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com>
References: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>

All ISOs are ready for download at this point
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/

On 10/13/2009 11:21 AM, Liam wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The release engineering is composing F12 Beta RC2 with anaconda 12.37.
> We can see from f12 Beta blocker list[1] that almost all bugs which
> related to installation were fixed and removed from list.After PreBeta
> testing and BetaTC testing, a lot of bugs have been fixed.So this round
> of install testing is valuable to validate whether the Beta is qualified
> enough.Once finish composing,the ISO will be available for downloading at:
> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/
>
> I have created a matrix for testers to select test cases and post test
> results at:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_Beta_RC2_Install
>
> If get some defects during testing,please refer to bug reporting
> guidance[2], any question,get help from:
> * IRC: #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net
> * Mailing list: fedora-test-list
> * Reference of ways to communicate at:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate
>
> [1]
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F12Beta&hide_resolved=1
>
> [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests
>
> Thanks
> Liam
>



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 13 08:16:42 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:46:42 +0530
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: <4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>
References: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com> <4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4AD4376A.3090909@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/13/2009 01:37 PM, Liam wrote:
> All ISOs are ready for download at this point
> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/

Do you want me to announce this wider such as Fedoraforums? Might get
more testers if the server can handle it.

Rahul



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 08:21:32 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:21:32 -0400
Subject: Bug Zappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-10-13
Message-ID: <20091013082132.GA16795@blackhare>

Bug Triage Meeting
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
Tuesday 13 October 15:00 UTC (11 AM EST)


Excuse the delay on getting this out.
I am behind the information curve for this week. I missed last weeks meeting and am behind in email. Also its 04something for me at the moment. With that, we will be winging the agenda this week.

Please reply to this email if you have an item to add or bring it to the meeting.

See you there
Sleepy TK009



From lili at redhat.com  Tue Oct 13 09:13:28 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:13:28 +0800
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: <4AD4376A.3090909@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com> <4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>
	<4AD4376A.3090909@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4AD444B8.4000302@redhat.com>

On 10/13/2009 04:16 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/13/2009 01:37 PM, Liam wrote:
>> All ISOs are ready for download at this point
>> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/
>
> Do you want me to announce this wider such as Fedoraforums? Might get
> more testers if the server can handle it.

Sure,please go ahead. Any tester will be welcome.

Liam



From sundar.list at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 10:44:18 2009
From: sundar.list at gmail.com (sundar s)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:14:18 +0530
Subject: Introduction
Message-ID: <99924bd40910130344h22ca2101j11a3249248963d22@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I am new in this list, so I would like to introduce myself. My name is
Meenakshi Sundaram, I am a software developer from India, I have over 4
years of Software development experience. I started using Linux in 2006 and
I have tried each and every distro which I came across. I have done some
system administration at work and I can rate myself as an intermediate
system administrator. I am largely inspired by the open-source community, So
I would like to spend my spare time in Testing and contributing to Fedora.

I am catching up with the QA in Fedora, It will take a while to get into it.
I appreciate any advice/suggestion.


Thanks & Regards,
Sundar
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 13 11:30:37 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:30:37 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091013 changes
Message-ID: <20091013113037.GA22976@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Tue Oct 13 06:15:09 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.x86_64 requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc64 requires python-json



Updated Packages:

anaconda-12.37-1.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 David Cantrell  - 12.37-1
- Missing volume_key shouldn't break LUKS support completely. (#526899)
  (dlehman)
- Write multipathd.conf in anaconda so that dracut can find it. (pjones)
- Add MultipathDevice.getDMNode(), because .updateSysfsPath() needs it.
  (pjones)
- Add MultipathDevice.updateSysfsPath() (pjones)
- Fix a segfault when stage2= boot parameter and kickstart url method is
  used (#524417). (rvykydal)
- Fix parsing of optional portnr in iscsi target IP (#525118) (hdegoede)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 1



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 13 15:37:04 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:37:04 -0700
Subject: Introduction
In-Reply-To: <99924bd40910130344h22ca2101j11a3249248963d22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <99924bd40910130344h22ca2101j11a3249248963d22@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1255448224.2330.39.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 16:14 +0530, sundar s wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am new in this list, so I would like to introduce myself. My name is
> Meenakshi Sundaram, I am a software developer from India, I have over
> 4 years of Software development experience. I started using Linux in
> 2006 and I have tried each and every distro which I came across. I
> have done some system administration at work and I can rate myself as
> an intermediate system administrator. I am largely inspired by the
> open-source community, So I would like to spend my spare time in
> Testing and contributing to Fedora.
> 
> I am catching up with the QA in Fedora, It will take a while to get
> into it. I appreciate any advice/suggestion.

Hi, Sundar, welcome to the group! Thanks a lot for volunteering.

If you haven't looked at them already, you can take a look at a few Wiki
pages to get an idea of what the QA group does, and how you can get
involved:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Joining

the first page has several things you can do to help the QA project in
general, and the second page is more specifically about the BugZappers
sub-project which deals with bug triaging. As the first page says, you
can help out in many ways, just by reporting bugs as you use Fedora,
testing out candidate updates, running Rawhide if you're very
adventurous and/or have a spare system :), trying the Rawhide nightly
live CDs, coming out to Test Days, and others. You'll also see various
events and requests for help posted to this list as you go along.

Thanks again for volunteering!

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 15:54:42 2009
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike Cloaked)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:54:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: <4AD444B8.4000302@redhat.com>
References: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com> <4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>
	<4AD4376A.3090909@fedoraproject.org> <4AD444B8.4000302@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <25875635.post@talk.nabble.com>




Liam-17 wrote:
> 
> On 10/13/2009 04:16 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 10/13/2009 01:37 PM, Liam wrote:
>>> All ISOs are ready for download at this point
>>> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/
>>
>> Do you want me to announce this wider such as Fedoraforums? Might get
>> more testers if the server can handle it.
> 
> Sure,please go ahead. Any tester will be welcome.
> 
> Liam
> 
> 

Is it still necessary to have the images directory in the same directory as
the iso for HD installs now, or has this been fixed so that the iso alone is
all that is needed?

If the images directory is still required, does this apply to nfs, http or
any other kinds of install??

-- 
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-Test-Announce--Fedora12-Beta-RC2-install-test-tp25866640p25875635.html
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From clumens at redhat.com  Tue Oct 13 16:00:48 2009
From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:00:48 -0400
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: <25875635.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com> <4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>
	<4AD4376A.3090909@fedoraproject.org>
	<4AD444B8.4000302@redhat.com> <25875635.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <20091013160048.GJ1979@localhost.localdomain>

> Is it still necessary to have the images directory in the same directory as
> the iso for HD installs now,

Yes.

> or has this been fixed so that the iso alone is
> all that is needed?

It won't be fixed.

> If the images directory is still required, does this apply to nfs, http or
> any other kinds of install??

It applies to any kind of ISO install.  For non-ISO installs, there are
some implicit assumptions made about the location of an install.img
relative to the location of the tree, but these are all tweakable with
the repo= and stage2= parameters.

- Chris



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 13 16:18:33 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:18:33 -0700
Subject: PulseAudio in-/output device confusion
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1255450713.2330.40.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 23:46 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Output devices:
> 
> PulseAudio
> Default
> HDA Intel
> PulseAudio Sound Server
> 
> Input devices:
> 
> PulseAudio Sound Server
> Default
> HDA Intel
> 
> Voil? the devices present on my system and the order of 
> preference for each of in-/output devices.
> 
> My question:
> 
> Is this the optimal ordering for PulseAudio for each of 
> in-/output? And why does output have both PulseAudio 
> *and* PulseAudio Sound Server (is one be a vestigial 
> rudiment of an earlier release)?

Where are you seeing this, exactly? Are you using KDE?

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 16:34:36 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:34:36 -0400
Subject: Introduction
In-Reply-To: <99924bd40910130344h22ca2101j11a3249248963d22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <99924bd40910130344h22ca2101j11a3249248963d22@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091013163436.GA20149@blackhare>

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 04:14:18PM +0530, sundar s wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am new in this list, so I would like to introduce myself. My name is
> Meenakshi Sundaram, I am a software developer from India, I have over 4
> years of Software development experience. I started using Linux in 2006 and
> I have tried each and every distro which I came across. I have done some
> system administration at work and I can rate myself as an intermediate
> system administrator. I am largely inspired by the open-source community, So
> I would like to spend my spare time in Testing and contributing to Fedora.
> 
> I am catching up with the QA in Fedora, It will take a while to get into it.
> I appreciate any advice/suggestion.
> 
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
> Sundar

> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list


Hello and welcome to the project and QA =)

TK009



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct 13 17:49:37 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:49:37 -0400
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: <4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>
References: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com>  <4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1255456177.2380.45.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 16:07 +0800, Liam wrote:
> All ISOs are ready for download at this point
> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/

Do to a compose error, the i386 ISO images were rebuilt.  If you have
already downloaded ppc or x86_64, there is no reason to download the
image again.  If you already downloaded i386 ISO's, unfortunately you
will need to download the ISO's again.  I would recommend the smaller
netinst.iso image (201M).

CHECKSUM's for the i386 ISO images can be found at
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/Fedora-12-Beta-i386-CDs/Fedora-12-Beta-i386-CHECKSUM.

Thanks,
James
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From andre at bwh.harvard.edu  Tue Oct 13 18:03:13 2009
From: andre at bwh.harvard.edu (Andre Robatino)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:03:13 -0400
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: <1255456177.2380.45.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com>  <4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>
	<1255456177.2380.45.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4AD4C0E1.8070004@bwh.harvard.edu>

On 10/13/2009 01:49 PM, James Laska wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 16:07 +0800, Liam wrote:
>> All ISOs are ready for download at this point
>> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/
> 
> Do to a compose error, the i386 ISO images were rebuilt.  If you have
> already downloaded ppc or x86_64, there is no reason to download the
> image again.  If you already downloaded i386 ISO's, unfortunately you
> will need to download the ISO's again.  I would recommend the smaller
> netinst.iso image (201M).

In a few hours, I'll be providing a deltaiso from the old RC2 i386 ISO
to the new one after downloading the new one.  It should be of
negligible size compared to the full ISO.



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From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 18:28:24 2009
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (Petrus de Calguarium)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:28:24 -0600
Subject: PulseAudio in-/output device confusion
References: 
	<1255450713.2330.40.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: 

Adam Williamson wrote:

> Where are you seeing this, exactly? Are you using 
KDE?
> 
Of course I use KDE :-)

I see this in systemsettings/multimedia/device 
preference.

The reason I would like to finally understand this is 
that I have 2 computers (desk- and laptop) and the 
priority of preference is often different, or sometimes 
my laptop tells me that such and such a device does not 
exist and asks whether I would like to remove it, etc. 
Often it tells me that PulseAudio is not working, so it 
will default to PulseAudio Sound Server. Huh? Yes, I 
see that there are 2 entries, but this is all very, 
very confusing and I just want to know what the 
intended order of all these devices is supposed to be, 
from the perspective of someone who wants to use 
PulseAudio correctly to achieve optimal sound without 
glitches and hitches, etc.




From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 13 18:41:04 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:41:04 -0700
Subject: PulseAudio in-/output device confusion
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1255450713.2330.40.camel@adam.local.net> 
Message-ID: <1255459264.2330.85.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 12:28 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > Where are you seeing this, exactly? Are you using 
> KDE?
> > 
> Of course I use KDE :-)
> 
> I see this in systemsettings/multimedia/device 
> preference.
> 
> The reason I would like to finally understand this is 
> that I have 2 computers (desk- and laptop) and the 
> priority of preference is often different, or sometimes 
> my laptop tells me that such and such a device does not 
> exist and asks whether I would like to remove it, etc. 
> Often it tells me that PulseAudio is not working, so it 
> will default to PulseAudio Sound Server. Huh? Yes, I 
> see that there are 2 entries, but this is all very, 
> very confusing and I just want to know what the 
> intended order of all these devices is supposed to be, 
> from the perspective of someone who wants to use 
> PulseAudio correctly to achieve optimal sound without 
> glitches and hitches, etc.

I think this is something specific to the interface between KDE / Phonon
and PulseAudio. In GNOME with gnome-volume-control, you don't see any
'virtual' devices like that, you only see the actual hardware devices.
So probably Kevin Kofler is the best to answer the question, and it may
actually be best directed to the KDE list - I think this stuff
originates in the Phonon / PA interface layer, not in PA itself.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 18:44:40 2009
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (Petrus de Calguarium)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:44:40 -0600
Subject: PulseAudio in-/output device confusion
References: 
	<1255450713.2330.40.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	<1255459264.2330.85.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: 

Adam Williamson wrote:

> [P]robably Kevin Kofler is the best to answer the
> question, and it may actually be best directed to
> the KDE list

Ok. Thanks.



From andre at bwh.harvard.edu  Tue Oct 13 21:47:24 2009
From: andre at bwh.harvard.edu (Andre Robatino)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:47:24 -0400
Subject: Deltaisos for Fedora 12 Beta TC->RC1 and RC1->RC2 DVD ISOs
Message-ID: <4AD4F56C.6040202@bwh.harvard.edu>

I've made available deltaisos for the Fedora 12 Beta TC->RC1 and
RC1->RC2 DVD ISOs for i386, ppc, and x86_64.  In addition, there is a
deltaiso for the Fedora 12 Beta RC2 i386 DVD ISO, from the old,
incorrect (due to compose error) version to the correct version.  The 3
TC->RC1 disos are roughly half of the full ISO size, which is much
larger than they ought to be (should be more like 5-10%), but
unavoidable due to Rawhide deltaisos currently being nonfunctional (I
built these on F11).  The remaining disos are 1-3% of full ISO size.  My
upstream bandwidth is only 768 Kb/s so I can't promise much as far as
seeding TC->RC1.  These are available at

http://thepiratebay.org/user/andre14965/

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From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 13 22:02:54 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:02:54 -0700
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1255471374.2330.105.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 15:10 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> Subject says it all.. 

Just a quick update on this. First, thanks again to everyone who's
worked on the pages so far.

Second, the QA meeting yesterday agreed to standardize on the
'How_to_debug_' page naming, so we should rename all the
pages to fit that convention. I'll do this tomorrow if no-one else feels
like doing it :)

Third, Johann mentioned today he was having trouble implementing the
template page as a genuine Wiki template (rather than just an example
that would be statically copy/pasted for each new page). I am going to
take tomorrow to try and get a working implementation done this way, in
my own draft space on the Wiki. I'll post up my results tomorrow. Was
hoping to do it today, but it's been too busy.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Tue Oct 13 22:11:42 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:11:42 -0400
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1255471374.2330.105.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is> <1255471374.2330.105.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1255471902.3491.18.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 15:02 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Third, Johann mentioned today he was having trouble implementing the
> template page as a genuine Wiki template (rather than just an example
> that would be statically copy/pasted for each new page). I am going to
> take tomorrow to try and get a working implementation done this way, in
> my own draft space on the Wiki. I'll post up my results tomorrow.

I don't think that's what templates are for in Mediawiki.  At least, I
wouldn't recommend trying to do that.  All you can really do is force
the headers in a page into a rigid format, and I think flexibility will
be needed to deal with added sections for some components and removed
sections where they don't apply to a component.

-B.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 13 22:30:52 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:30:52 -0700
Subject: Standardize/ have consistency in the layout of
 How_to_Debug_ wiki pages.
In-Reply-To: <1255471902.3491.18.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <4ACCAF49.30903@hi.is> <1255471374.2330.105.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255471902.3491.18.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1255473052.2353.0.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 18:11 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 15:02 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Third, Johann mentioned today he was having trouble implementing the
> > template page as a genuine Wiki template (rather than just an example
> > that would be statically copy/pasted for each new page). I am going to
> > take tomorrow to try and get a working implementation done this way, in
> > my own draft space on the Wiki. I'll post up my results tomorrow.
> 
> I don't think that's what templates are for in Mediawiki.  At least, I
> wouldn't recommend trying to do that.  All you can really do is force
> the headers in a page into a rigid format, and I think flexibility will
> be needed to deal with added sections for some components and removed
> sections where they don't apply to a component.

you may be right, but I want to play around with it to see what we can
do.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 14 02:03:48 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:03:48 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091014020348.4569D10F87F@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    Django-1.1.1-1.fc11
    MySQL-zrm-2.1.1-5.fc11
    apr-api-docs-1.3.9-1.fc11
    asterisk-1.6.1.7-0.1.rc2.fc11
    ayttm-0.6.0-1.fc11
    cyrus-imapd-2.3.15-2.fc11
    dhcp-4.1.0p1-5.fc11
    efte-1.1-1.fc11
    etoys-4.0.2332-1.fc11
    exo-0.3.104-1.fc11
    fsarchiver-0.6.1-1.fc11
    givaro-3.3.0-2.fc11
    haproxy-1.3.21-1.fc11
    iptux-0.5.0-1.fc11
    json-glib-0.8.0-1.fc11
    kde-l10n-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdeaccessibility-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdeadmin-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdeartwork-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdebase-4.3.2-3.fc11
    kdebase-runtime-4.3.2-2.fc11
    kdebase-workspace-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdebindings-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdeedu-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdegames-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdegraphics-4.3.2-3.fc11
    kdelibs-4.3.2-3.fc11
    kdelibs-experimental-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdemultimedia-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdenetwork-4.3.2-3.fc11
    kdepim-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdepim-runtime-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdepimlibs-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdeplasma-addons-4.3.2-2.fc11
    kdesdk-4.3.2-2.fc11
    kdetoys-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdeutils-4.3.2-1.fc11
    libotf-0.9.9-2.fc11
    libv4l-0.6.2-1.fc11
    liferea-1.6.0-1.fc11
    mpop-1.0.18-1.fc11
    myproxy-4.8-4.fc11
    ntop-3.3.10-2.fc11
    openscada-0.6.4-1.fc11
    oxygen-icon-theme-4.3.2-1.fc11
    parole-0.1.90-2.fc11
    perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-0.41-1.fc11
    perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-Mason-0.13-1.fc11
    phonon-4.3.1-102.fc11
    php-ezc-Archive-1.3.4-1.fc11
    php-ezc-Authentication-1.3.1-1.fc11
    php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.4-1.fc11
    php-ezc-SystemInformation-1.0.8-1.fc11
    php-ezc-Template-1.4.1-1.fc11
    php-ezc-Webdav-1.1.2-1.fc11
    powerman-2.3.5-2.fc11
    procinfo-ng-2.0.304-2.fc11
    pybluez-0.16-2.fc11
    python-guppy-0.1.9-1.fc11
    qt-4.5.3-4.fc11
    rt3-3.8.2-11.fc11
    setup-2.8.3-2.fc11
    shared-mime-info-0.60-4.fc11
    slim-1.3.1-8.fc11
    smartmontools-5.38-18.fc11
    snownews-1.5.12-1.fc11
    tigervnc-1.0.0-1.fc11
    tinyproxy-1.6.5-1.fc11
    unbound-1.3.4-2.fc11
    urlwatch-1.9-1.fc11
    vim-latex-1.5-3.20091002.r1074.fc11
    w_scan-20090918-1.fc11
    ytree-1.93-1.fc11
    zyx-liveinstaller-0.1.13-1.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 Django-1.1.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10390)
 A high-level Python Web framework
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2009/oct/09/security/      Description of
vulnerability  ============================  Django's forms library included
field types which perform regular-expression-based validation of email addresses
and URLs. Certain addresses/URLs could trigger a pathological performance case
in this regular expression, resulting in the server process/thread becoming
unresponsive, and consuming excessive CPU over an extended period of time. If
deliberately triggered, this could result in an effective denial-of-service
attack.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner  - 1.1.1-1
- Update to fix http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2009/oct/09/security/
- Django-ignore-pyo-bz-495046.patch no longer needed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528246 - Django's forms DOS in 1.1/1.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528246
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 MySQL-zrm-2.1.1-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10458)
 MySQL backup manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Easy-to-use yet flexible and robust backup and recovery solution for MySQL
server.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528125 - Review Request: MySQL-zrm - MySQL backup manager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528125
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 apr-api-docs-1.3.9-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10440)
 Apache Portable Runtime API documentation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Bojan Smojver  1.3.9-1
- Bump up to 1.3.9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 asterisk-1.6.1.7-0.1.rc2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10395)
 The Open Source PBX
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 1.6.1.7-rc2 Merge firmware subpackage back into main package No longer
need to strip tarball since it no longer contains any non-free items Tighten up
permissions/ownership of config files. Fix up some more paths Drop unneeded
patch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.1.rc2
- Update to 1.6.1.7-rc2
- Merge firmware subpackage back into main package
- No longer need to strip tarball since it no longer contains any non-free items
- Tighten up permissions/ownership of config files.
- Fix up some more paths
- Drop unneeded patch
* Wed Sep  9 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.6-2
- Enable building of API docs.
- Depend on version 1.2 or newer of speex
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527789 - RFE: Change some file permissions and ownership for asterisk RPM
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527789
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ayttm-0.6.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10404)
 Universal Instant Messaging Client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ayttm is designed to become a Universal Instant Messaging client, seamlessly
integrating all existing Instant Messaging clients and providing a single
consistant user interface. Currently, Ayttm supports sending and receiving
messages through AOL, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, IRC and Jabber.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #503490 - Review Request: ayttm - Universal Instant Messaging Client
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503490
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cyrus-imapd-2.3.15-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10436)
 A high-performance mail server with IMAP, POP3, NNTP and SIEVE support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

fixed cyrus user shell for db import
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 2.3.15-2
- fix cyrus user shell for db import (#528126)
- make init script lsb compliant
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528126 - Cyrus-imapd won't start due to database import failure
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528126
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dhcp-4.1.0p1-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10478)
 Dynamic host configuration protocol software
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Network comes back after suspend/hibernate.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Jiri Popelka  - 12:4.1.0p1-5
- Fix 56dhclient so network comes back after suspend/hibernate (#527641)
* Wed Aug 26 2009 David Cantrell  - 12:4.1.0p1-4
- Do not require policycoreutils for dhclient subpackage, fix restorecon
  calls in postinstall scriptlets (#519479)
* Wed Aug 26 2009 David Cantrell  - 12:4.1.0p1-3
- Do not require policycoreutils for post scriptlet (#519479)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527641 - network does not come back after suspend/hibernate
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527641
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 efte-1.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10423)
 A lightweight, extendable, folding text editor for X11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 1.1 which fixes a buffer overflow.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 1.1-1
- Update to 1.1 which fixes a buffer overflow.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 etoys-4.0.2332-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10402)
 A media-rich model, game, and simulation construction kit and authoring tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to release 2332
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Steven M. Parrish  - 4.0.2332-1
- lastest upstream release 4.0.2332
* Thu Oct  1 2009 Gavin Romig-Koch  - 4.0.2319-1
- lastest upstream release 4.0.2319
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 exo-0.3.104-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10424)
 Application library for the Xfce desktop environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update makes unmounting of devices more reliable and fixes a multilib issue
that prevented users from installing both the 32 and 64 bit versions of this
package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.3.104-1
- Update to 0.3.104
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.3.103-2
- Disable parallel make due to multilib conflicts.
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.3.103-1
- Update to 0.3.103
- Drop patches for URL quoting and default mount options (fixed upstream)
- Revert useless touch -r trick
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Kevin Fenzi  - 0.3.101-5
- Use touch -r trick to fix multilib issue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #525529 - Doesn't allow to eject cd with button
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525529
  [ 2 ] Bug #525511 - [abrt] crash detected in exo-0.3.101-4.fc12
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525511
  [ 3 ] Bug #234212 - xfmedia is required when mounting audio cds
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=234212
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fsarchiver-0.6.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10389)
 Safe and flexible file-system backup/deployment tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.6.1 (fixes a regression introduced in 0.6.0):  * New encryption
implementation was not thread-safe (broken when option -j was used)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Adel Gadllah  - 0.6.1-1
- Update to 0.6.1
* Sun Sep 27 2009 Adel Gadllah  - 0.6.0-1
- Update to 0.6.0
- Fixes licensing issue (no longer links against openssl)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 givaro-3.3.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10386)
 C++ library for arithmetic and algebraic computations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 D Haley  - 3.3.0-2
- Tag bymp
* Fri Oct  9 2009 D Haley  - 3.3.0-1
- Update to 3.3.0
- Relicence per CeCILL-B
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 haproxy-1.3.21-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10397)
 HA-Proxy is a TCP/HTTP reverse proxy for high availability environments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.3.21-1
- update to 1.3.21
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.3.20-1
- update to 1.3.20
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 iptux-0.5.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10399)
 A software for sharing in LAN
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream to iptux-0.5.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Liang Suilong  0.5.0-1
- Upstream to 0.5.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 json-glib-0.8.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10415)
 Library for JavaScript Object Notation format
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Bug fix release.  Fixes handling of 64bit UIDs.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Brian Pepple  - 0.8.0-1
- Update to 0.8.0.
- Update source url.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527073 - json-glib builds for f10 and 11
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527073
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Sat Oct  3 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- main virtual subpkg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-2
- rhel cleanup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.3.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-3
- backport upstream patch for bookmark editor drag&drop crash (kde#160679)
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- fix Dolphin crash (regression)
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Sun Sep 27 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-4
- BR: webkitpart-devel
- fix Provides: kdebase4%{?_isa} (not kdelibs)
* Sun Sep 27 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- own %_kde4_appsdir/konqueror/{kpartplugins,icons,opensearch}
- %lang'ify HTML docs
- Provides: kdelibs4%{?_isa}
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.3.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Rex Dieter  4.3.2-2
- BR: bzip2-devel xz-devel
- -libs: move Requires: kdepimlibs... here
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 4.3.1-4
- fix manpath patch (spotted by Kevin Kofler)
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 4.3.1-3
- if available, use the "manpath" command in the man kioslave to determine man
  page file locations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Fri Sep 25 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-4
- rhel cleanup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.3.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-3
- okular does not handle escaped URL correctly (kde#207461)
* Thu Oct  8 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- rhel cleanup
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.3.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-3
- khtml kpart crasher (kde #207173/209876)
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- fix a deadlock in KLocale
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Wed Sep 23 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-7
- move /etc/profile.d/kde4.(sh|csh) to kde-settings (F-12+)
* Mon Sep 21 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-6
- use abrt for RHEL
* Sat Sep 19 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-5
- groupdav connect to egroupware failed (kde#186763)
* Fri Sep 18 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.1-4
- ship kde4-doxygen.sh only in -devel (fix duplicate file)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-experimental-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 KDE libraries with experimental or unstable api/abi
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.3.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-3
- fix BR to be on kdelibs-experimental-devel, not kdelibs-experimental
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- enable jingle
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- %?_isa'ize -libs deps
- BR: webkitpart-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 PIM (Personal Information Manager) applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-6
- rhel cleanup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-runtime-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 KDE PIM Runtime Environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.3.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-2
- microblog/twitter fix (kde#209891)
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.3.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-2
- Fix Kompare diff parsing regression (due to a typo in a bugfix)
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-2
- Requires: kross(python) (#523076)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libotf-0.9.9-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10400)
 A Library for handling OpenType Font
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

fix multilib issue BR528237
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Neal Becker  - 0.9.9-2
- Remove libotf-config (just just pkg-config instead)
- Remove example/Makefile to fix multilib conflict
* Tue Aug 25 2009 Neal Becker  - 0.9.9-1
- Update to 0.9.9
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.9.8-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libv4l-0.6.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10494)
 Collection of video4linux support libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream libv4l release with more upside down laptop cams recognized (and
the image corrected).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Hans de Goede  0.6.2-1
- New upstream release 0.6.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 liferea-1.6.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10444)
 An RSS/RDF feed reader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Adds additional functionality as requested in 527873.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Steven M. Parrish  - 1.6.0-1
- Add additional functionality #527873
* Wed Aug 12 2009 Steven M. Parrish  - 1.6.0-0
- Final 1.6.0 release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524186 - Liferea does not handle "localhost" as a proxy server
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524186
  [ 2 ] Bug #524877 - Liferea Crashes at open RSS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524877
  [ 3 ] Bug #525087 - liferea takes 100% cpu when network goes down
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525087
  [ 4 ] Bug #527873 - Enable liferea features provided byoptional dependencies
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527873
  [ 5 ] Bug #525702 - Status icon has no transparency
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525702
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mpop-1.0.18-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10493)
 POP3 client for recieving mail from POP3 mailboxes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sun Oct 12 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.0.18-1  -
Updated to new upstream version 1.0.18
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.0.18-1
- Updated to new upstream version 1.0.18
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 myproxy-4.8-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10410)
 Manage X.509 Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) security credentials
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First version of myproxy for Fedora and EPEL5. MyProxy is open source software
for managing X.509 Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) security credentials
(certificates and private keys). MyProxy combines an online credential
repository with an online certificate authority to allow users to securely
obtain credentials when and where needed. Users run myproxy-logon to
authenticate and obtain credentials, including trusted CA certificates and
Certificate Revocation Lists (CRLs).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #520479 - Review Request: myproxy - Manage X.509 Public Key Infrastructure (PKI)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520479
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ntop-3.3.10-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10425)
 A network traffic probe similar to the UNIX top command
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* CVE-2009-2732 ntop: NULL pointer dereference by HTTP Basic Authentication    *
Updated to 3.3.10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Rakesh Pandit  - 3.3.10-2
- Added missing BR libevent-devel, lua-devel
* Thu Oct  8 2009 Rakesh Pandit  - 3.3.10-1
- Patch7: ntop-http_c_user.patch for #518264 (CVE-2009-2732)
- Updated to 3.3.10
- Removed umask patch - already upstream
- Added lua patch for preventing wget
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #518264 - CVE-2009-2732 ntop: NULL pointer dereference by HTTP Basic Authentication (DoS)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518264
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openscada-0.6.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10448)
 Open SCADA system project
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.4-1
- The change version for release 0.6.4
- Moved Ui-VCAEngane module to the self package
- Removed QTStarter module from the main package
- Added the virtual plc, server, visStation packages
- Some cosmetics.
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.4-1
- Adding self module ICP_DAS
- Fixed Germany Language translations by Popkova Irina
- Delete openscada-0.6.3.3-openssl.patch from previouns version
- Adding the next version of the package.
* Tue Sep  1 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.3-13
- Adding Requires for webcfg, webcfgd, webvision, http and snmp
- Some cosmetics.
* Tue Aug 25 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 0.6.3.3-12
- rebuilt with new openssl
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Popkov Aleksey  - 0.6.3.3-11
- Fixed of macros find_lang for epel-5 by Peter Lemenkov .
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.6.3.3-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild.
* Tue Jul 14 2009 Popkov Aleksey  0.6.3.3-9
- Adding find_lang macros by Peter Lemenkov 
- Somes cosmetics.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oxygen-icon-theme-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 Oxygen icon theme
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 parole-0.1.90-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10398)
 Media player for the Xfce desktop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Parole is a modern simple media player based on the GStreamer framework and
written to fit well in the Xfce desktop. Parole features playback of local media
files, DVD/CD and live streams.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527840 - Review Request: parole - Media player for the Xfce desktop
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527840
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-0.41-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10470)
 Very simple standalone HTTP daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 0.41-1
- Upstream update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-Mason-0.13-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10497)
 HTTP::Server::Simple::Mason Perl module
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 0.13-1
- Upstream update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 phonon-4.3.1-102.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10428)
 Multimedia framework api
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This build includes a first attempt at providing pulseaudio support in phonon-
backend-gstreamer.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct  3 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-102
- Requires: qt4 >= 4.5.2-21 (f12+)
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-101
- revert to kde/phonon
- inflate to Release: 101
- -backend-gstreamer: Epoch: 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #513421 - phonon-backend-gstreamer: The Audio playback device  does not work, falling back to default
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513421
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Archive-1.3.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10464)
 Create, modify, and extract archive files of various formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue : Extracting tar files in case there is a long filename combined
with a long linkname.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.3.4-1
- Update to 1.3.4
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.3-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Authentication-1.3.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10463)
 Support for different means of identification and authentication
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue: Final LDAP bind uses wrong DN.  Fixed issue: DN can not be
retrieved from the LDAP filter.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.3.1-1
- Update to 1.3.1
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10381)
 A component that allows you to use configuration files in different formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Implemented issue: ezcConfigurationIniWriter::writeSetting() enforces quoting
even thought it is documented differently.  Fixed bug: Hash keys with quotes
were not escaped properly internally
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.3.4-1
- Update to 1.3.4
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.3-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-SystemInformation-1.0.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10431)
 Provides access to common system variables
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Reorganized the source code to fall in line with guidelines.  * Fixed the
ezcSystemReaderCantScanOSException class to properly inherit from
ezcSystemInfoException and ezcBaseException.  * Implemented issue: Added support
for XCache.  * Removed support for PHP Accelerator, which is for PHP 4 only.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Template-1.4.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10379)
 A fully functional Templating system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue: {tr}-block ignores output context.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.4-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Webdav-1.1.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10495)
 Set up and run your own WebDAV server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue: Corrected and enhanced documentation of ezcWebdavServer regarding
configuration handling.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.1.2-1
- Update to 1.1.2
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.1.1-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 powerman-2.3.5-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10496)
 PowerMan - Power to the Cluster
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix multilib issue #509691.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Steven M. Parrish  - 2.3.5-2
- fix multilib issue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #509691 - powerman multilib conflict
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509691
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 procinfo-ng-2.0.304-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10489)
 Console-based system monitoring utility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 2.0.304-2  -
Fixed license tag, it's no LGPLv2 only
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 2.0.304-2
- Fixed license tag, it's no LGPLv2 only
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 2.0.304-1
- Added LICENSE.txt
- Updated to new upstream version 2.0.304
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pybluez-0.16-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10417)
 Python API for the BlueZ bluetooth stack
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes a bug using pybluez with kernel 2.6.30 or higher.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Paulo Roma  - 0.16-2
- Applied btmodule patch.
* Tue Jul 28 2009 Will Woods  - 0.16-1
- New (bugfix) release from upstream
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.15-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528123 - python-bluez: with kernel 2.6.30 produces an "Invalid Argument" error
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528123
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-guppy-0.1.9-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10437)
 A Python Programming Environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526238 - Review Request: python-guppy - A Python Programming Environment
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526238
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qt-4.5.3-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10462)
 Qt toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.3 is a bug-fix release    See also:
http://qt.nokia.com/developer/changes/changes-4.5.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.3-4
- fix translation build issue
- rhel cleanup
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 4.5.3-3
- disable JavaScriptCore JIT, SE Linux crashes (#527079)
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.3-2
- cleanup patches
- if ! phonon_internal, exclude more/all phonon headers
- qt-devel must Requires: phonon-devel (#520323)
* Thu Oct  1 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.3-1
- qt-4.5.3
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-21
- switch to external/kde phonon
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-20
- use internal Qt Assistant/Designer icons
- -devel: move designer.qch,linguist.qch here
- move ownership of %_qt4_docdir, %_qt4_docdir/qch to main pkg
* Sun Sep 20 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-19
- Missing Qt Designer icon (#476605)
* Fri Sep 11 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-18
- drop gcc -fno-var-tracking-assignments hack (#522576)
* Fri Sep 11 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.2-17
- drop useless check for ossl patch, the patch works fine with old ossl
* Wed Sep  9 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.2-16
- add a correct system_ca_certificates patch
* Tue Sep  8 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-15
- use system ca-certificates (#521911)
* Tue Sep  1 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.2-14
- drop fedora < 9 support
- only apply ossl patch for fedora > 11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478481 - qmake-qt4 seems not compile correctly some qt-plugins on 64bits arch
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478481
  [ 2 ] Bug #521911 - qt: list of trusted CA certificates should not be compiled into library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521911
  [ 3 ] Bug #476605 - Missing Qt Designer icon
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476605
  [ 4 ] Bug #520323 - qt-devel must Requires: phonon-devel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520323
  [ 5 ] Bug #527079 - setroubleshoot:      SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/arora from changing a writable memory segment executable.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527079
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rt3-3.8.2-11.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10498)
 Request tracker 3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 3.8.2-11
- Update rt-3.8.2-rh-bz526870.diff.
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 3.8.2-10
- Add rt-3.8.2-rh-bz526870.diff (BZ #526870).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526870 - Update to rt 3.8.5
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526870
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 setup-2.8.3-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10401)
 A set of system configuration and setup files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- adjust /dev/pts fstab line if broken by installation    (#515521)  - use 
scriptlet for deleting .rpmnew files in correct way
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Ondrej Vasik  2.8.3-2
- adjust /dev/pts fstab line if broken by installation
  (#515521)
- use  scriptlet for deleting files in correct way
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #515521 - SELinux is preventing qemu-kvm (svirt_t) "setrlimit" svirt_t.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=515521
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 shared-mime-info-0.60-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10405)
 Shared MIME information database
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix default associations for OpenOffice, Brasero, Abiword, gthumb and Gnumeric
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.60-4
- Fix OO.o desktop files defaults (#508559)
- Same for Brasero, abiword, gthumb and gnumeric
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #508559 - defaults.list out of date for openoffice.org 3.1
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508559
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 slim-1.3.1-8.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10475)
 Simple Login Manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Lorenzo Villani  - 1.3.1-8
- Fix BZ #518068
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.1-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Sun Jun 21 2009 Anders F Bjorklund  1.3.1-6
- exclude current directory from default_path in slim.conf (#505359)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #505359 - Current directory included in default path
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505359
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 smartmontools-5.38-18.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10315)
 Tools for monitoring SMART capable hard disks
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- fix smartd for 3ware controllers  - fix mail notifications in smartd  - make
init script lsb compliant
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:5.38-18
- warn about disabled mail only if capabilities are enabled
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:5.38-17
- fix apostrophes around shell variable
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:5.38-16
- fix init script for case when no action was specified
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:5.38-15
- make init script lsb compliant (#528016)
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:5.38-14
- make capabilities optional
- fix capabilities for 3ware contollers (#526626)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526626 - smartmontools-5.38-13 breaks 3ware controller monitoring
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526626
  [ 2 ] Bug #525820 - smartd cannot send warning email because of missing privileges - smartd actually useless!
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525820
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 snownews-1.5.12-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10391)
 A text mode RSS/RDF newsreader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Corrected two crashes when using mark unread and open URL on non-existent items.
Use OpenSSL for MD5 calculations and remove all old MD5 code. Fix 64bit digest
calc. Readstatus wasn't remembered on 64bit versions.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Zing  - 1.5.12-1
- Bug fixes + openssl added as a requirement
- Corrected two crashes when using mark unread and open URL on
  non-existent items.
- Use OpenSSL for MD5 calculations and remove all old MD5 code.
- Fix 64bit digest calc. Readstatus wasn't remembered on 64bit versions.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tigervnc-1.0.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10416)
 A TigerVNC remote display system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 1.0.0 release which contains a few bugfixes.    Those issues are
addressed:  * -DotWhenNoCursor option might be ignored  * -LowColourLevel option
is not documented well
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Adam Tkac  1.0.0-1
- update to 1.0.0 release
  - tigervnc10-rh508998.patch merged
  - tigervnc10-xorg-rh514528.patch merged
  - tigervnc10-rh495457.patch merged
- improve -LowColorSwitch documentation and handling (#510185)
- honor dotWhenNoCursor option (and it's changes) every time (#524340)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524340 - suggested patch for dot cursor issue
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524340
  [ 2 ] Bug #510185 - vncviewer ignores -LowColourLevel switch
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510185
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tinyproxy-1.6.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10457)
 A small, efficient HTTP/SSL proxy daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.6.5-1
- update to upstream 1.6.5
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.6.4-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528403 - Squirrelmail and various other web mails do not open properly with tinyproxy
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528403
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 unbound-1.3.4-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10393)
 Validating, recursive, and caching DNS(SEC) resolver
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This bumps unbound from a very old version to the latest release. It contains a
lot of fixes and additional DNS protocol implementations. (not released as
security update because the previous version in Fedora did not support the
extensions the latest security release fixes)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Paul Wouters  - 1.3.4-2
- Long neglected update
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 urlwatch-1.9-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10456)
 A tool for monitoring webpages for updates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.9-1  - Added
patch for xmpp functionality  - Updated to new upstream version 1.9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.9-1
- Added patch for xmpp functionality
- Updated to new upstream version 1.9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 vim-latex-1.5-3.20091002.r1074.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10469)
 Tools to view, edit and compile LaTeX documents in Vim
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release in Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526122 - Review Request: vim-latex - Tools to view, edit and compile LaTeX documents in Vim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526122
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 w_scan-20090918-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10446)
 Tool for scanning DVB transponders
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Felix Kaechele  - 20090918-1
- new upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ytree-1.93-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10490)
 A filemanager similar to XTree
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Bug 509929 fixed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Aug 30 2009 Minto Joseph  - 1.93-1
- Rebased to 1.93
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #509929 - ytree crashes on attempt to switch to file pane
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509929
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 zyx-liveinstaller-0.1.13-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10394)
 Install a running LiveOS rebootlessly
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- bugfix: extra space caused problem with mitigating automounter  - bugfix:
missed a few things related to v0.1.12 f12 udev config    - should now be able
to eject LiveCD after install of f12 based distro  - bugfix: randomize initial
UUID to allow multiple concurrent installs  - bugfix: use blkid instead of
deprecated vol_id (absent in f12)  - bugfix: newer udev path_id needs non /sys
prefixed argument  - debug: catching more errors, and giving user better
directions for feedback  - use rootfs type for bootfs unless f11 special case
(that needs ext3)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 0.1.13-1
- update to new upstream release
* Sat Sep 26 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 0.1.12-1
- update to new upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 14 02:03:48 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:03:48 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091014020348.6839810F882@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    Django-1.1.1-1.fc10
    apr-api-docs-1.3.9-1.fc10
    efte-1.1-1.fc10
    fsarchiver-0.6.1-1.fc10
    givaro-3.3.0-1.fc10
    haproxy-1.3.21-1.fc10
    kde-l10n-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdeaccessibility-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdeadmin-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdeartwork-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdebase-4.3.2-3.fc10
    kdebase-runtime-4.3.2-2.fc10
    kdebase-workspace-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdebindings-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdeedu-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdegames-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdegraphics-4.3.2-3.fc10
    kdelibs-4.3.2-3.fc10
    kdelibs-experimental-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdemultimedia-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdenetwork-4.3.2-3.fc10
    kdepim-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdepim-runtime-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdepimlibs-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdeplasma-addons-4.3.2-2.fc10
    kdesdk-4.3.2-2.fc10
    kdetoys-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdeutils-4.3.2-1.fc10
    libotf-0.9.9-2.fc10
    libv4l-0.6.2-1.fc10
    openscada-0.6.4-1.fc10
    oxygen-icon-theme-4.3.2-1.fc10
    perl-5.10.0-74.fc10
    perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-0.41-1.fc10
    perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-Mason-0.13-1.fc10
    phonon-4.3.1-102.fc10
    php-ezc-Archive-1.3.4-1.fc10
    php-ezc-Authentication-1.3.1-1.fc10
    php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.4-1.fc10
    php-ezc-SystemInformation-1.0.8-1.fc10
    php-ezc-Template-1.4.1-1.fc10
    php-ezc-Webdav-1.1.2-1.fc10
    procinfo-ng-2.0.304-2.fc10
    qt-4.5.3-4.fc10
    rt3-3.8.2-11.fc10
    slim-1.3.1-9.fc10
    tinyproxy-1.6.5-1.fc10
    unbound-1.3.4-2.fc10
    urlwatch-1.9-1.fc10
    vim-latex-1.5-3.20091002.r1074.fc10
    w_scan-20090918-1.fc10
    ytree-1.93-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 Django-1.1.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10432)
 A high-level Python Web framework
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2009/oct/09/security/      Description of
vulnerability  ============================  Django's forms library included
field types which perform regular-expression-based validation of email addresses
and URLs. Certain addresses/URLs could trigger a pathological performance case
in this regular expression, resulting in the server process/thread becoming
unresponsive, and consuming excessive CPU over an extended period of time. If
deliberately triggered, this could result in an effective denial-of-service
attack.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner  - 1.1.1-1
- Update to fix http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2009/oct/09/security/
- Django-ignore-pyo-bz-495046.patch no longer needed.
* Wed Aug 26 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner  - 1.1-4
- EL-4 shouldn't get the sphinx docs.
* Wed Aug 26 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner  - 1.1-3
- ghosting admin py* is now FC9 and under.
* Thu Aug  6 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner  - 1.1-2
- Applied Daniel Mach's patch from bz#516016.
* Sat Aug  1 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner  - 1.1-1
- Update for Django 1.1 release.
- Moved /usr/bin/django-admin.py to /usr/bin/django-admin
- sed macro is now being used
- Patch for bz#495046 applied.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528246 - Django's forms DOS in 1.1/1.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528246
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 apr-api-docs-1.3.9-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10384)
 Apache Portable Runtime API documentation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Bojan Smojver  1.3.9-1
- Bump up to 1.3.9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 efte-1.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10473)
 A lightweight, extendable, folding text editor for X11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 1.1 which fixes a buffer overflow.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 1.1-1
- Update to 1.1 which fixes a buffer overflow.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fsarchiver-0.6.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10408)
 Safe and flexible file-system backup/deployment tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.6.1 (fixes a regression introduced in 0.6.0):  * New encryption
implementation was not thread-safe (broken when option -j was used)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Adel Gadllah  - 0.6.1-1
- Update to 0.6.1
* Sun Sep 27 2009 Adel Gadllah  - 0.6.0-1
- Update to 0.6.0
- Fixes licensing issue (no longer links against openssl)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 givaro-3.3.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10422)
 C++ library for arithmetic and algebraic computations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 D Haley  - 3.3.0-1
- Update to 3.3.0
- Relicence per CeCILL-B
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 haproxy-1.3.21-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10502)
 HA-Proxy is a TCP/HTTP reverse proxy for high availability environments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.3.21-1
- update to 1.3.21
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.3.20-1
- update to 1.3.20
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================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Sat Oct  3 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- main virtual subpkg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-2
- rhel cleanup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.3.2-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-3
- backport upstream patch for bookmark editor drag&drop crash (kde#160679)
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- fix Dolphin crash (regression)
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Sun Sep 27 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-4
- BR: webkitpart-devel
- fix Provides: kdebase4%{?_isa} (not kdelibs)
* Sun Sep 27 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- own %_kde4_appsdir/konqueror/{kpartplugins,icons,opensearch}
- %lang'ify HTML docs
- Provides: kdelibs4%{?_isa}
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.3.2-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct  6 2009 Rex Dieter  4.3.2-2
- BR: bzip2-devel xz-devel
- -libs: move Requires: kdepimlibs... here
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 4.3.1-4
- fix manpath patch (spotted by Kevin Kofler)
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 4.3.1-3
- if available, use the "manpath" command in the man kioslave to determine man
  page file locations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Fri Sep 25 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-4
- rhel cleanup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.3.2-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-3
- okular does not handle escaped URL correctly (kde#207461)
* Thu Oct  8 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- rhel cleanup
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.3.2-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-3
- khtml kpart crasher (kde #207173/209876)
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- fix a deadlock in KLocale
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Wed Sep 23 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-7
- move /etc/profile.d/kde4.(sh|csh) to kde-settings (F-12+)
* Mon Sep 21 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-6
- use abrt for RHEL
* Sat Sep 19 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-5
- groupdav connect to egroupware failed (kde#186763)
* Fri Sep 18 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.1-4
- ship kde4-doxygen.sh only in -devel (fix duplicate file)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-experimental-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 KDE libraries with experimental or unstable api/abi
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.3.2-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-3
- fix BR to be on kdelibs-experimental-devel, not kdelibs-experimental
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- enable jingle
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- %?_isa'ize -libs deps
- BR: webkitpart-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 PIM (Personal Information Manager) applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-6
- rhel cleanup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-runtime-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 KDE PIM Runtime Environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.3.2-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-2
- microblog/twitter fix (kde#209891)
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.3.2-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-2
- Fix Kompare diff parsing regression (due to a typo in a bugfix)
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-2
- Requires: kross(python) (#523076)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libotf-0.9.9-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10500)
 A Library for handling OpenType Font
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

fix multilib issue BR528237
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Neal Becker  - 0.9.9-2
- Remove libotf-config (just just pkg-config instead)
- Remove example/Makefile to fix multilib conflict
* Tue Aug 25 2009 Neal Becker  - 0.9.9-1
- Update to 0.9.9
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.9.8-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.9.8-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libv4l-0.6.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10486)
 Collection of video4linux support libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream libv4l release with more upside down laptop cams recognized (and
the image corrected).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Hans de Goede  0.6.2-1
- New upstream release 0.6.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openscada-0.6.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10492)
 Open SCADA system project
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.4-1
- The change version for release 0.6.4
- Moved Ui-VCAEngane module to the self package
- Removed QTStarter module from the main package
- Added the virtual plc, server, visStation packages
- Some cosmetics.
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.4-1
- Adding self module ICP_DAS
- Fixed Germany Language translations by Popkova Irina
- Delete openscada-0.6.3.3-openssl.patch from previouns version
- Adding the next version of the package.
* Tue Sep  1 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.3-13
- Adding Requires for webcfg, webcfgd, webvision, http and snmp
- Some cosmetics.
* Tue Aug 25 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 0.6.3.3-12
- rebuilt with new openssl
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Popkov Aleksey  - 0.6.3.3-11
- Fixed of macros find_lang for epel-5 by Peter Lemenkov .
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.6.3.3-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild.
* Tue Jul 14 2009 Popkov Aleksey  0.6.3.3-9
- Adding find_lang macros by Peter Lemenkov 
- Somes cosmetics.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oxygen-icon-theme-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 Oxygen icon theme
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-5.10.0-74.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10433)
 Practical Extraction and Report Language
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- 510127 spam assassin suffer from tainted bug  - 494773 much better swap logic
to support reentrancy and fix assert failure (rt #60508)  - fix generated .ph
files so that they no longer cause warnings (#509676)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 4:5.10.0-74
- 510127 spam assassin suffer from tainted bug
- 494773 much better swap logic to support reentrancy and fix assert failure (rt #60508)
- fix generated .ph files so that they no longer cause warnings (#509676)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-0.41-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10487)
 Very simple standalone HTTP daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 0.41-1
- Upstream update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-Mason-0.13-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10479)
 HTTP::Server::Simple::Mason Perl module
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 0.13-1
- Upstream update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 phonon-4.3.1-102.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10414)
 Multimedia framework api
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This build includes a first attempt at providing pulseaudio support in phonon-
backend-gstreamer.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct  3 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-102
- Requires: qt4 >= 4.5.2-21 (f12+)
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-101
- revert to kde/phonon
- inflate to Release: 101
- -backend-gstreamer: Epoch: 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #513421 - phonon-backend-gstreamer: The Audio playback device  does not work, falling back to default
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513421
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Archive-1.3.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10430)
 Create, modify, and extract archive files of various formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue : Extracting tar files in case there is a long filename combined
with a long linkname.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.3.4-1
- Update to 1.3.4
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.3-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Authentication-1.3.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10387)
 Support for different means of identification and authentication
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue: Final LDAP bind uses wrong DN.  Fixed issue: DN can not be
retrieved from the LDAP filter.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.3.1-1
- Update to 1.3.1
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10452)
 A component that allows you to use configuration files in different formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Implemented issue: ezcConfigurationIniWriter::writeSetting() enforces quoting
even thought it is documented differently.  Fixed bug: Hash keys with quotes
were not escaped properly internally
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.3.4-1
- Update to 1.3.4
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.3-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-SystemInformation-1.0.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10419)
 Provides access to common system variables
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Reorganized the source code to fall in line with guidelines.  * Fixed the
ezcSystemReaderCantScanOSException class to properly inherit from
ezcSystemInfoException and ezcBaseException.  * Implemented issue: Added support
for XCache.  * Removed support for PHP Accelerator, which is for PHP 4 only.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Template-1.4.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10418)
 A fully functional Templating system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue: {tr}-block ignores output context.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.4-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 php-ezc-Webdav-1.1.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10442)
 Set up and run your own WebDAV server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed issue: Corrected and enhanced documentation of ezcWebdavServer regarding
configuration handling.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.1.2-1
- Update to 1.1.2
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.1.1-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 procinfo-ng-2.0.304-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10421)
 Console-based system monitoring utility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 2.0.304-2  -
Fixed license tag, it's no LGPLv2 only
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 2.0.304-2
- Fixed license tag, it's no LGPLv2 only
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 2.0.304-1
- Added LICENSE.txt
- Updated to new upstream version 2.0.304
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qt-4.5.3-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10447)
 Qt toolkit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Qt 4.5.3 is a bug-fix release    See also:
http://qt.nokia.com/developer/changes/changes-4.5.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.3-4
- fix translation build issue
- rhel cleanup
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 4.5.3-3
- disable JavaScriptCore JIT, SE Linux crashes (#527079)
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.3-2
- cleanup patches
- if ! phonon_internal, exclude more/all phonon headers
- qt-devel must Requires: phonon-devel (#520323)
* Thu Oct  1 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.3-1
- qt-4.5.3
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-21
- switch to external/kde phonon
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-20
- use internal Qt Assistant/Designer icons
- -devel: move designer.qch,linguist.qch here
- move ownership of %_qt4_docdir, %_qt4_docdir/qch to main pkg
* Sun Sep 20 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-19
- Missing Qt Designer icon (#476605)
* Fri Sep 11 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-18
- drop gcc -fno-var-tracking-assignments hack (#522576)
* Fri Sep 11 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.2-17
- drop useless check for ossl patch, the patch works fine with old ossl
* Wed Sep  9 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.2-16
- add a correct system_ca_certificates patch
* Tue Sep  8 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5.2-15
- use system ca-certificates (#521911)
* Tue Sep  1 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.2-14
- drop fedora < 9 support
- only apply ossl patch for fedora > 11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #478481 - qmake-qt4 seems not compile correctly some qt-plugins on 64bits arch
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478481
  [ 2 ] Bug #521911 - qt: list of trusted CA certificates should not be compiled into library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521911
  [ 3 ] Bug #476605 - Missing Qt Designer icon
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476605
  [ 4 ] Bug #520323 - qt-devel must Requires: phonon-devel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520323
  [ 5 ] Bug #527079 - setroubleshoot:      SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/arora from changing a writable memory segment executable.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527079
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rt3-3.8.2-11.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10426)
 Request tracker 3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 3.8.2-11
- Update rt-3.8.2-rh-bz526870.diff.
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 3.8.2-10
- Add rt-3.8.2-rh-bz526870.diff (BZ #526870).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526870 - Update to rt 3.8.5
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526870
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 slim-1.3.1-9.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10461)
 Simple Login Manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Here is where you give an explanation of your update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Lorenzo Villani  - 1.3.1-9
- rebuilt
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Lorenzo Villani  - 1.3.1-8
- Fix BZ #518068
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.1-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Sun Jun 21 2009 Anders F Bjorklund  1.3.1-6
- exclude current directory from default_path in slim.conf (#505359)
* Sat Feb 28 2009 Anders F Bjorklund  1.3.1-5
- provide service(graphical-login) for anaconda yuminstall (#485789)
* Sun Feb 22 2009 Anders F Bjorklund  1.3.1-4
- Add header for remove(3)
* Wed Feb  4 2009 Anders F Bjorklund  1.3.1-3
- use small "default_blue" background, instead of large compat "default"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #505359 - Current directory included in default path
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505359
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tinyproxy-1.6.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10503)
 A small, efficient HTTP/SSL proxy daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.6.5-1
- update to upstream 1.6.5
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.6.4-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.6.4-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528403 - Squirrelmail and various other web mails do not open properly with tinyproxy
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528403
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 unbound-1.3.4-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10396)
 Validating, recursive, and caching DNS(SEC) resolver
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This bumps unbound from a very old version to the latest release. It contains a
lot of fixes and additional DNS protocol implementations. (not released as
security update because the previous version in Fedora did not support the
extensions the latest security release fixes)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Paul Wouters  - 1.3.4-2
- Bump version
* Thu Oct  8 2009 Paul Wouters  - 1.3.4-1
- Much neglected update
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 urlwatch-1.9-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10491)
 A tool for monitoring webpages for updates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.9-1  - Added
patch for xmpp functionality  - Updated to new upstream version 1.9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.9-1
- Added patch for xmpp functionality
- Updated to new upstream version 1.9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 vim-latex-1.5-3.20091002.r1074.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10420)
 Tools to view, edit and compile LaTeX documents in Vim
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release in Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526122 - Review Request: vim-latex - Tools to view, edit and compile LaTeX documents in Vim
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526122
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 w_scan-20090918-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10450)
 Tool for scanning DVB transponders
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Felix Kaechele  - 20090918-1
- new upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ytree-1.93-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10481)
 A filemanager similar to XTree
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Bug 509929 fixed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Aug 30 2009 Minto Joseph  - 1.93-1
- Rebased to 1.93
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #509929 - ytree crashes on attempt to switch to file pane
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509929
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From mschwendt at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 09:07:33 2009
From: mschwendt at gmail.com (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:07:33 -0000
Subject: Broken dependencies with Fedora 11 updates-testing - 2009-10-14
Message-ID: <20091014090733.4484.15822@faldor.intranet>

======================================================================
The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
======================================================================

Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name):

    asterisk
    libsvm
    oorexx
    ppl
    skrooge




======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-i386:

    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc:

    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc64:

    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-x86_64:

    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexx.so.3
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexxapi.so.3


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-i386:

    ppl-swiprolog-0.10.2-7.fc11.i586  requires  libpl.so.5.7.11
    skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.i586  requires  kdelibs4(x86-32) >= 0:4.3.2


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc:

    ppl-swiprolog-0.10.2-7.fc11.ppc  requires  libpl.so.5.7.11
    skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.ppc  requires  kdelibs4(ppc-32) >= 0:4.3.2
    skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  kdelibs4(ppc-64) >= 0:4.3.2


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc64:

    ppl-swiprolog-0.10.2-7.fc11.ppc64  requires  libpl.so.5.7.11()(64bit)
    skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  kdelibs4(ppc-64) >= 0:4.3.2


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-x86_64:

    ppl-swiprolog-0.10.2-7.fc11.x86_64  requires  libpl.so.5.7.11()(64bit)
    skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.i586  requires  kdelibs4(x86-32) >= 0:4.3.2
    skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 0:4.3.2



From thomasj at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 14 09:20:23 2009
From: thomasj at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Janssen)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:20:23 +0200
Subject: Broken dependencies with Fedora 11 updates-testing - 2009-10-14
In-Reply-To: <20091014090730.4484.52433@faldor.intranet>
References: <20091014090730.4484.52433@faldor.intranet>
Message-ID: 

2009/10/14 Michael Schwendt :
> The following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies:
>
> ======================================================================
> The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
> ======================================================================
>
> package: skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.i586 from fedora-updates-11-i386
> ?unresolved deps:
> ? ? kdelibs4(x86-32) >= 0:4.3.2
>
> package: skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.i586 from fedora-updates-11-x86_64
> ?unresolved deps:
> ? ? kdelibs4(x86-32) >= 0:4.3.2
>
> package: skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.ppc from fedora-updates-11-ppc
> ?unresolved deps:
> ? ? kdelibs4(ppc-32) >= 0:4.3.2
>
> package: skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.ppc64 from fedora-updates-11-ppc
> ?unresolved deps:
> ? ? kdelibs4(ppc-64) >= 0:4.3.2
>
> package: skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.ppc64 from fedora-updates-11-ppc64
> ?unresolved deps:
> ? ? kdelibs4(ppc-64) >= 0:4.3.2
>
> package: skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.x86_64 from fedora-updates-11-x86_64
> ?unresolved deps:
> ? ? kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 0:4.3.2

Ouch. Rookie mistake. This should go to updates-testing (kdelibs4
4.3.2 is pushed to updates-testing). The same for F10. How can i
correct this stupid mistake? Sorry. This wont happen again.

-- 
LG Thomas

Dubium sapientiae initium



From mschwendt at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 09:33:02 2009
From: mschwendt at gmail.com (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:33:02 -0000
Subject: Broken dependencies with Fedora 10 updates-testing - 2009-10-14
Message-ID: <20091014093302.4606.30804@faldor.intranet>

======================================================================
The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
======================================================================

Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name):

    autotrust
    db4o
    fedora-gnat-project-common
    gadget
    gedit-vala
    libsvm
    llvm
    oorexx
    openscada
    php
    python-tgext-crud




======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-10-ppc:

    db4o-6.1-4.fc9.ppc  requires  mono(Mono.Cecil) = 0:0.6.8.8607
    libsvm-java-2.86-13.fc10.ppc  requires  libsvm = 0:2.86-13.fc10
    llvm-devel-2.3-2.fc10.ppc64  requires  llvm = 0:2.3-2.fc10
    php-devel-5.2.6-5.ppc64  requires  php = 0:5.2.6-5


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-10-ppc64:

    libsvm-java-2.86-13.fc10.ppc64  requires  libsvm = 0:2.86-13.fc10


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-10-x86_64:

    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexxapi.so.3
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexx.so.3
    php-devel-5.2.6-5.i386  requires  php = 0:5.2.6-5


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-10-i386:

    autotrust-0.2.1-0.2.rc1.fc10.i386  requires  libunbound.so.0
    gedit-vala-0.3.2-3.fc10.1.i386  requires  libgtksourcecompletion-1.0.so.1
    openscada-UI-QTVision-0.6.3.3-8.fc10.i386  requires  openscada = 0:0.6.3.3-8.fc10


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-10-ppc:

    autotrust-0.2.1-0.2.rc1.fc10.ppc  requires  libunbound.so.0
    gedit-vala-0.3.2-3.fc10.1.ppc  requires  libgtksourcecompletion-1.0.so.1


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-10-ppc64:

    autotrust-0.2.1-0.2.rc1.fc10.ppc64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)
    fedora-gnat-project-common-1.2-1.fc10.noarch  requires  gcc-gnat
    gadget-0.0.3-2.fc10.noarch  requires  ejabberd
    gedit-vala-0.3.2-3.fc10.1.ppc64  requires  libgtksourcecompletion-1.0.so.1()(64bit)


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-10-x86_64:

    autotrust-0.2.1-0.2.rc1.fc10.x86_64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)
    gedit-vala-0.3.2-3.fc10.1.x86_64  requires  libgtksourcecompletion-1.0.so.1()(64bit)
    openscada-UI-QTVision-0.6.3.3-8.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada = 0:0.6.3.3-8.fc10


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-10-i386:

    openscada-demo-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-UI-VCAEngane = 0:0.6.4-1.fc10
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Archive-FSArch
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-LogicLev
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-UI-WebCfgD
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-ICP_DAS
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Special-FLibMath
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Archive-DBArch
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-SoundCard
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Archive-FSArch
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-LogicLev
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DB-FireBird
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-DAQGate
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  Special-FLibMath
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-DiamondBoards
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-ICP_DAS
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-WebCfgD
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Archive-DBArch
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-LogicLev
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-DAQGate
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-SoundCard
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Archive-FSArch
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Special-FLibMath
    python-tgext-crud-0.2.4-1.fc10.noarch  requires  python-sprox >= 0:0.5.4.1


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-10-ppc:

    python-tgext-crud-0.2.4-1.fc10.noarch  requires  python-sprox >= 0:0.5.4.1


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-10-ppc64:

    python-tgext-crud-0.2.4-1.fc10.noarch  requires  python-sprox >= 0:0.5.4.1


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-10-x86_64:

    openscada-demo-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-UI-VCAEngane = 0:0.6.4-1.fc10
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Archive-FSArch
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-LogicLev
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-UI-WebCfgD
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-ICP_DAS
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibMath
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Archive-DBArch
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-SoundCard
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Archive-FSArch
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-LogicLev
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DB-FireBird
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-DAQGate
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  Special-FLibMath
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-DiamondBoards
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-ICP_DAS
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-WebCfgD
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Archive-DBArch
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-LogicLev
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-DAQGate
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-SoundCard
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Archive-FSArch
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibMath
    python-tgext-crud-0.2.4-1.fc10.noarch  requires  python-sprox >= 0:0.5.4.1



From mschwendt at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 09:58:31 2009
From: mschwendt at gmail.com (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:58:31 +0200
Subject: Broken dependencies with Fedora 11 updates - 2009-10-14
In-Reply-To: <20091014090733.4484.15822@faldor.intranet>
References: <20091014090733.4484.15822@faldor.intranet>
Message-ID: <20091014115831.119fd2b2@faldor.intranet>

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:07:33 -0000, Michael wrote:

> Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name):
> 
>     asterisk
>     libsvm
>     oorexx
>     ppl
>     skrooge

These reports actually did _not_ include "updates-testing", but
just Fedora 11 + stable Updates (!). Subject and warning were wrong
due to a temporarily changed config file.

Going to trigger a fresh report _with_ updates-testing...



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 11:03:41 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:03:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: any list for test installing f12 beta on my x86_64 laptop?
Message-ID: 


  i'm just about to install f12 beta x86_64 on one of my ubiquitous
gateway mx7120 laptops (broadcom wireless, ATI video), so i'm open to
suggestions as to anything specific i should stress test.

  obviously, i'll be checking if wireless is still fairly
straightforward to install (is there a URL for f12 wireless i should
be referencing?), and i'll check if radeon video drivers are still
totally borked.

  is there a walkthrough of what one should do in terms of testing?
might as well be thorough while i'm here.

rday
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From mschwendt at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 11:08:51 2009
From: mschwendt at gmail.com (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:08:51 -0000
Subject: Broken dependencies with Fedora 11 updates-testing - 2009-10-14
Message-ID: <20091014110851.6532.24599@faldor.intranet>

======================================================================
The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
======================================================================

Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name):

    asterisk
    autotrust
    fedora-business-cards
    libsvm
    oorexx
    openmpi
    openscada
    R-RScaLAPACK




======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-i386:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.i586  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    autotrust-0.2.1-0.3.rc1.fc11.i586  requires  libunbound.so.0
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.i586  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    autotrust-0.2.1-0.3.rc1.fc11.ppc  requires  libunbound.so.0
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc64:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc64  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    autotrust-0.2.1-0.3.rc1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-x86_64:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.x86_64  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    autotrust-0.2.1-0.3.rc1.fc11.x86_64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexx.so.3
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexxapi.so.3
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-i386:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    openscada-UI-QTVision-0.6.3.3-8.fc11.i586  requires  openscada = 0:0.6.3.3-8.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc64:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-x86_64:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    openscada-UI-QTVision-0.6.3.3-8.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada = 0:0.6.3.3-8.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-i386:

    fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch  requires  inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn
    openscada-demo-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-UI-VCAEngane = 0:0.6.4-1.fc11
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Archive-FSArch
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-LogicLev
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-UI-WebCfgD
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-ICP_DAS
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Special-FLibMath
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Archive-DBArch
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-SoundCard
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Archive-FSArch
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-LogicLev
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DB-FireBird
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-DAQGate
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  Special-FLibMath
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-DiamondBoards
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-ICP_DAS
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-WebCfgD
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Archive-DBArch
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-LogicLev
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-DAQGate
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-SoundCard
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Archive-FSArch
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Special-FLibMath


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc:

    fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch  requires  inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc64:

    fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch  requires  inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-x86_64:

    fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch  requires  inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn
    openscada-demo-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-UI-VCAEngane = 0:0.6.4-1.fc11
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Archive-FSArch
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-LogicLev
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-UI-WebCfgD
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-ICP_DAS
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibMath
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Archive-DBArch
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-SoundCard
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Archive-FSArch
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-LogicLev
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DB-FireBird
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-DAQGate
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  Special-FLibMath
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-DiamondBoards
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-ICP_DAS
    openscada-server-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-WebCfgD
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Archive-DBArch
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-LogicLev
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-DAQGate
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-SoundCard
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Archive-FSArch
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibMath



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 14 11:32:44 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:32:44 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091014 changes
Message-ID: <20091014113244.GA17384@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Wed Oct 14 06:15:07 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.x86_64 requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc64 requires python-json



Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 12:58:05 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:58:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
Message-ID: 


  my biggest worry regarding this install was whether video would work
properly (ati radeon xpress 200M).  after the installation (which
seemed to go fine), the reboot brought me back to the firstboot(?)
stuff, at which point the resolution being used was off to the point
where the "Cancel" and whatever other buttons that are normally at the
lower right were completely invisible -- they were clearly off the
border of the display somewhere in that direction.

  the only way i could get thru that firstboot content was to use TAB
and guess which button i was pressing.  i eventually got through that
and logged in, at which point "xdpyinfo" told me it was using a
resolution of 2080x800, when the actual display res is only 1280x800.

  thoughts?  given that video still seems problematic, what is the
proper protocol to deal with this?  in particular, what was the proper
approach at first reboot to be able to see the entire screen?  is this
a known issue?  thanks.

rday

p.s.  curiously, now that i'm in my desktop session, the four squares
in the bottom right representing my 4 virtual desktops are *extremely*
stretched horizontally, proportionate to that much larger res.  and if
i slide a window to the right and off the edge of the *visible*
display, i can still see the square representing that window in the
same virtual desktop, only way off to the right where it's not
visible.

so how did f12 beta come to think of my laptop as having a 2080x800
display?  what should i have done (or be doing) differently?

--


========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

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From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed Oct 14 13:06:15 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:06:15 -0400
Subject: any list for test installing f12 beta on my x86_64 laptop?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1255525575.2430.57.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hey Robert,

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 07:03 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> i'm just about to install f12 beta x86_64 on one of my ubiquitous
> gateway mx7120 laptops (broadcom wireless, ATI video), so i'm open to
> suggestions as to anything specific i should stress test.
> 
>   obviously, i'll be checking if wireless is still fairly
> straightforward to install (is there a URL for f12 wireless i should
> be referencing?), and i'll check if radeon video drivers are still
> totally borked.
> 
>   is there a walkthrough of what one should do in terms of testing?
> might as well be thorough while i'm here.

There are a few things you can help provide feedback on when it comes to
testing.  I'm borrowing from comments Adam shared with me in an email a
while back.  The instructions below offer some quick suggestions, as
well as links to additional testing if you have additional time.

As you've already done, start with some details about your hardware.  If
possible, include a link to your smolt profile [1].

Next, how was your install experience?
      * Tell us how you installed (CD, DVD, Live image, boot.iso, PXE,
        RAID, LVM etc...).  Ideally, provide feedback by updating the
        Install Test Matrix [2] 
      * Should you encounter problems we can discuss them on the list
        here.  I would also suggest looking at the Anaconda bug
        reporting guide [3]

Next, how was your boot experience?
      * Did it boot successfully? (sometimes best to start there!)
      * Was the boot a flicker/artifact free graphical experience?
      * Were any workarounds or cfg changes required (e.g. booting
        "nomodeset")?

Finally, any issues encountered setting up and using your system?
      * Again, are the graphics [4][5][6] and display [7] behaving as
        expected?
      * Does logging into your preferred desktop behave as expected?
      * Were you able to establish a network connection? (You might even
        try some test cases [8])?
      * You can find additional desktop fit'n'finish test areas and
        cases on the wiki [9]

Happy testing!
James

[1] http://smolts.org/smolt-wiki/Main_Page#Usage
[2]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00203.html
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/BugReporting
[4] Radeon test cases -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Radeon_Test_Cases
[5] Intel test cases -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Intelvideo_Test_Cases
[6] Nouveau test cases -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Nouveau_Test_Cases
[7]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-07-07_Fit_and_Finish:Display_Configuration
[8] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:NetworkManager_Test_Cases
[9] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fit_and_Finish
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From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 13:07:25 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:07:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>
>   my biggest worry regarding this install was whether video would work
> properly (ati radeon xpress 200M).  after the installation (which
> seemed to go fine), the reboot brought me back to the firstboot(?)
> stuff, at which point the resolution being used was off to the point
> where the "Cancel" and whatever other buttons that are normally at the
> lower right were completely invisible -- they were clearly off the
> border of the display somewhere in that direction.
>
>   the only way i could get thru that firstboot content was to use TAB
> and guess which button i was pressing.  i eventually got through that
> and logged in, at which point "xdpyinfo" told me it was using a
> resolution of 2080x800, when the actual display res is only 1280x800.
>
>   thoughts?  given that video still seems problematic, what is the
> proper protocol to deal with this?  in particular, what was the proper
> approach at first reboot to be able to see the entire screen?  is this
> a known issue?  thanks.
>
> rday
>
> p.s.  curiously, now that i'm in my desktop session, the four squares
> in the bottom right representing my 4 virtual desktops are *extremely*
> stretched horizontally, proportionate to that much larger res.  and if
> i slide a window to the right and off the edge of the *visible*
> display, i can still see the square representing that window in the
> same virtual desktop, only way off to the right where it's not
> visible.
>
> so how did f12 beta come to think of my laptop as having a 2080x800
> display?  what should i have done (or be doing) differently?

  quick followup:  i just popped into System->Prefs->Display, at which
point i was given a choice of resolution, the highest being the
correct one of 1280x800.  i selected it, saved, and now things seem
fine.

  but it's still odd where that initial 2080x800 res came from, and
what i should have done differently to be able to see the entire
screen during firstboot.

  whoops, i just restarted the system and i'm back to 2080x800.
very strange.

rday
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        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
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From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 14 13:46:15 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:46:15 -0500
Subject: any list for test installing f12 beta on my x86_64 laptop?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20091014134615.GA31673@wolff.to>

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 07:03:41 -0400,
  "Robert P. J. Day"  wrote:
> 
>   i'm just about to install f12 beta x86_64 on one of my ubiquitous
> gateway mx7120 laptops (broadcom wireless, ATI video), so i'm open to
> suggestions as to anything specific i should stress test.
> 
>   obviously, i'll be checking if wireless is still fairly
> straightforward to install (is there a URL for f12 wireless i should
> be referencing?), and i'll check if radeon video drivers are still
> totally borked.
> 
>   is there a walkthrough of what one should do in terms of testing?
> might as well be thorough while i'm here.

Look at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_12_test_days
and see if there are some there that you are interested in doing.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 14:16:38 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:16:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: any list for test installing f12 beta on my x86_64 laptop?
In-Reply-To: <20091014134615.GA31673@wolff.to>
References: 
	<20091014134615.GA31673@wolff.to>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 07:03:41 -0400,
>   "Robert P. J. Day"  wrote:
> >
> >   i'm just about to install f12 beta x86_64 on one of my ubiquitous
> > gateway mx7120 laptops (broadcom wireless, ATI video), so i'm open to
> > suggestions as to anything specific i should stress test.
> >
> >   obviously, i'll be checking if wireless is still fairly
> > straightforward to install (is there a URL for f12 wireless i should
> > be referencing?), and i'll check if radeon video drivers are still
> > totally borked.
> >
> >   is there a walkthrough of what one should do in terms of testing?
> > might as well be thorough while i'm here.
>
> Look at:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_12_test_days
> and see if there are some there that you are interested in doing.

  ok, i'll do that, but i'm still concerned about resolving the issue
i described earlier -- during firstboot, the display was clearly
configured incorrectly so that i couldn't even see the buttons in the
lower right.

  if i want to test that again, what's the proper way to force
re-running firstboot upon reboot?  i can see the setting in
/etc/sysconfig/firstboot, and also being able to run "chkconfig" on
it.  is there an approved way of simply asking to run it again at boot
time?  thanks.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From andre at bwh.harvard.edu  Wed Oct 14 14:36:36 2009
From: andre at bwh.harvard.edu (Andre Robatino)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:36:36 -0400
Subject: old noarch RPMs breaking deltaisos
In-Reply-To: <4AD3675A.6010806@bwh.harvard.edu>
References: <4AD3675A.6010806@bwh.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <4AD5E1F4.50704@bwh.harvard.edu>

I looked at the dates on the noarch packages on the F11 ISO and the
earliest modification date is March 9, about 3 months before F11 Final.
 Does this mean that all noarch packages are expected to be rebuilt
before F13's release?

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From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 15:40:05 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:40:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: firstboot resolution [Was: Re: any list for test installing f12 beta
 on my x86_64 laptop?]
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<20091014134615.GA31673@wolff.to>
	
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>   ok, i'll do that, but i'm still concerned about resolving the
> issue i described earlier -- during firstboot, the display was
> clearly configured incorrectly so that i couldn't even see the
> buttons in the lower right.
>
>   if i want to test that again, what's the proper way to force
> re-running firstboot upon reboot?  i can see the setting in
> /etc/sysconfig/firstboot, and also being able to run "chkconfig" on
> it.  is there an approved way of simply asking to run it again at
> boot time?  thanks.

  as a short followup, i tweaked the above two properties to force a
firstboot run at the next boot and, sure enough, upon reboot, the
display setting was still screwed to the point where i still can't see
anything down in the lower right and that's probably why at least
*some* of my settings weren't correct after booting -- because i
simply had no idea what i was answering as i went from screen to
screen.

  this seems like a fairly serious show-stopper -- and it seems like
it would be independent of any video selection for the install itself.
even when the install worked fine, it's the firstboot that *seemed* to
select a resolution of 2080x800 for a 1280x800 display, making a lot
of each screen inaccessible.

  suggestions?  i'm willing to run some tests.  the video card is an
ATI Radeon Xpress 200M, and i have a *long* history with ATI driver
grief.

rday
--

========================================================================
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        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 15:44:01 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:44:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: broadcom wireless worked out of the box
Message-ID: 


  as a radical departure from my normal whinging about stuff that
*doesn't* work, i was thrilled to see that broadcom wireless worked
right away with no extra help from me.  i'm assuming that was
*supposed* to happen, yes?  so i don't need to go thru the normal
downloading of firmware, fwcutting and so on, correct?

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 15:52:15 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:22:15 -0430
Subject: broadcom wireless worked out of the box
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1255535535.8140.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 11:44 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   as a radical departure from my normal whinging about stuff that
> *doesn't* work, i was thrilled to see that broadcom wireless worked
> right away with no extra help from me.  i'm assuming that was
> *supposed* to happen, yes?  so i don't need to go thru the normal
> downloading of firmware, fwcutting and so on, correct?

"If it works, don't fix it".

poc



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 14 16:01:21 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:01:21 -0500
Subject: any list for test installing f12 beta on my x86_64 laptop?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<20091014134615.GA31673@wolff.to>
	
Message-ID: <20091014160121.GA11823@wolff.to>

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:16:38 -0400,
  "Robert P. J. Day"  wrote:
> 
>   if i want to test that again, what's the proper way to force
> re-running firstboot upon reboot?  i can see the setting in
> /etc/sysconfig/firstboot, and also being able to run "chkconfig" on
> it.  is there an approved way of simply asking to run it again at boot
> time?  thanks.

I haven't ever tried it, but that would be my first guess.

You may end up needing an xorg.conf file. On a couple of machines I have
very old monitors that don't do normal EDID and the drivers are overly safe
and don't add the needed modelines.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 16:05:08 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:05:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: broadcom wireless worked out of the box
In-Reply-To: <1255535535.8140.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: 
	<1255535535.8140.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 11:44 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >   as a radical departure from my normal whinging about stuff that
> > *doesn't* work, i was thrilled to see that broadcom wireless worked
> > right away with no extra help from me.  i'm assuming that was
> > *supposed* to happen, yes?  so i don't need to go thru the normal
> > downloading of firmware, fwcutting and so on, correct?
>
> "If it works, don't fix it".

  oh, i'm not going to mess with what works.  all i'm saying is that
the online sites that explain how to get broadcom wireless going under
f10 and f11, like this:

http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#firmware_installation

appear to be superfluous, is that correct?

  actually, upon closer inspection, i can see the directory
/lib/firmware/b43, and rpm tells me it's part of the b43-openfwwf
package, so can i assume that's why it just plain works in f12?  i
don't recall that package from earlier releases.

rday
--

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        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 14 16:10:36 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:10:36 -0500
Subject: firstboot resolution [Was: Re: any list for test installing f12
 beta on my x86_64 laptop?]
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<20091014134615.GA31673@wolff.to>
	
	
Message-ID: <20091014161036.GB11823@wolff.to>

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:40:05 -0400,
  "Robert P. J. Day"  wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> 
>   this seems like a fairly serious show-stopper -- and it seems like
> it would be independent of any video selection for the install itself.
> even when the install worked fine, it's the firstboot that *seemed* to
> select a resolution of 2080x800 for a 1280x800 display, making a lot
> of each screen inaccessible.
> 
>   suggestions?  i'm willing to run some tests.  the video card is an
> ATI Radeon Xpress 200M, and i have a *long* history with ATI driver
> grief.

As a short term fix you should be able to see up an xorg.conf file that
prefers 1280x800. I think using the modes command in the display section
will do what you want. man xorg.conf has more details.

I also recommend filing a bug against xorg-x11-drv-ati. That probably won't
get a quick fix, but will at least document the issue.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 16:13:44 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:13:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: any list for test installing f12 beta on my x86_64 laptop?
In-Reply-To: <20091014160121.GA11823@wolff.to>
References: 
	<20091014134615.GA31673@wolff.to>
	
	<20091014160121.GA11823@wolff.to>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:16:38 -0400,
>   "Robert P. J. Day"  wrote:
> >
> >   if i want to test that again, what's the proper way to force
> > re-running firstboot upon reboot?  i can see the setting in
> > /etc/sysconfig/firstboot, and also being able to run "chkconfig"
> > on it.  is there an approved way of simply asking to run it again
> > at boot time?  thanks.
>
> I haven't ever tried it, but that would be my first guess.
>
> You may end up needing an xorg.conf file. On a couple of machines I
> have very old monitors that don't do normal EDID and the drivers are
> overly safe and don't add the needed modelines.

  as i mentioned in my earlier post, i did make that change, rebooted,
and yes, i ran into the same problem.  just logging out of the desktop
and logging back in sets the resolution back to 2080x800, so i would
have to adjust it each time unless i create an xorg.conf.

  ***but*** an xorg.conf is still not going to be a solution to that
initial firstboot issue, before i've ever had a chance to create that
file -- i still won't be able to see the entire screen.

  so ... is there any way around this that someone wants me to test?
i have the spare system to do it on, and it seems like this is
something that really needs to be addressed, being an installation
issue.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 16:16:39 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:16:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: firstboot resolution [Was: Re: any list for test installing f12
 beta on my x86_64 laptop?]
In-Reply-To: <20091014161036.GB11823@wolff.to>
References: 
	<20091014134615.GA31673@wolff.to>
	
	
	<20091014161036.GB11823@wolff.to>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:40:05 -0400,
>   "Robert P. J. Day"  wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >
> >   this seems like a fairly serious show-stopper -- and it seems
> > like it would be independent of any video selection for the
> > install itself. even when the install worked fine, it's the
> > firstboot that *seemed* to select a resolution of 2080x800 for a
> > 1280x800 display, making a lot of each screen inaccessible.
> >
> >   suggestions?  i'm willing to run some tests.  the video card is
> > an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M, and i have a *long* history with ATI
> > driver grief.
>
> As a short term fix you should be able to see up an xorg.conf file
> that prefers 1280x800. I think using the modes command in the
> display section will do what you want. man xorg.conf has more
> details.
>
> I also recommend filing a bug against xorg-x11-drv-ati. That
> probably won't get a quick fix, but will at least document the
> issue.

  sure, i can do that, but i'll wait for a bit to see if anyone else
has a thought.  perhaps someone else is running into the same issue?
it would be nice to verify that i'm not the only one seeing this.
and i'm curious as to where X is getting the resolution of 2080x800
from.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 14 16:31:18 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:31:18 -0500
Subject: any list for test installing f12 beta on my x86_64 laptop?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<20091014134615.GA31673@wolff.to>
	
	<20091014160121.GA11823@wolff.to>
	
Message-ID: <20091014163118.GD11823@wolff.to>

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:13:44 -0400,
  "Robert P. J. Day"  wrote:
> 
>   ***but*** an xorg.conf is still not going to be a solution to that
> initial firstboot issue, before i've ever had a chance to create that
> file -- i still won't be able to see the entire screen.

I agree and there is a real problem. It might be bad hardware or bios
misindicating what modes should be available (which might be fixable as
a quirk in the driver) or it might be a driver bug.

>   so ... is there any way around this that someone wants me to test?
> i have the spare system to do it on, and it seems like this is
> something that really needs to be addressed, being an installation
> issue.

My recommendation would be to file a bug against xorg-x11-drv-ati. Include
Xorg.0.log and inforation about your video card (say from lshw or lspci).
Don't expect a rapid fix (but you never know). If a fix is provided later
you can restest that.

As for a firstboot work aorund there may be something there as well.
I thought that a simple way to use vesa when doing installs got added
relatively recently. If you tried installing using that method, it would be
interesting to see if for the first boot if vesa was used so you would
have a chance to fix things in a graphical environment. If not that could
be an RFE bug against ananconda (I think).



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 16:30:42 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:30:42 +0100
Subject: broadcom wireless worked out of the box
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1255535535.8140.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	
Message-ID: <5256d0b0910140930y572ba1f0u6e461498efbb18a4@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Robert P. J. Day  wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 11:44 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>> > ? as a radical departure from my normal whinging about stuff that
>> > *doesn't* work, i was thrilled to see that broadcom wireless worked
>> > right away with no extra help from me. ?i'm assuming that was
>> > *supposed* to happen, yes? ?so i don't need to go thru the normal
>> > downloading of firmware, fwcutting and so on, correct?
>>
>> "If it works, don't fix it".
>
> ?oh, i'm not going to mess with what works. ?all i'm saying is that
> the online sites that explain how to get broadcom wireless going under
> f10 and f11, like this:
>
> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#firmware_installation
>
> appear to be superfluous, is that correct?
>
> ?actually, upon closer inspection, i can see the directory
> /lib/firmware/b43, and rpm tells me it's part of the b43-openfwwf
> package, so can i assume that's why it just plain works in f12? ?i
> don't recall that package from earlier releases.

Its been introduced in the F-12 rawhide time frame but is available in
F-11 (and possibly F-10) repos.

Peter



From rivanvx at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 16:31:15 2009
From: rivanvx at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Vedran_Mileti=C4=87?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:31:15 +0200
Subject: firstboot resolution [Was: Re: any list for test installing f12
	beta on my x86_64 laptop?]
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
	<20091014134615.GA31673@wolff.to>
	 
	
	<20091014161036.GB11823@wolff.to> 
	
Message-ID: 

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Robert P. J. Day  wrote:
> ?sure, i can do that, but i'll wait for a bit to see if anyone else
> has a thought. ?perhaps someone else is running into the same issue?
> it would be nice to verify that i'm not the only one seeing this.
> and i'm curious as to where X is getting the resolution of 2080x800
> from.
>
> rday
> --
>
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The reason for this resolution is probably that X thinks you have one
more screen and then stretches firstboot over it.

Second reason would be that Xpress 200 and Xpress 200M support in X is
actually really, really bad, and broken in many cases. Not to mention
that there are multiple versions of this chip, and each one is
slightly different. Provide lspci -vnn for your card in your bug
report.

But, from what I understand, you actually have a working KMS?

-- 
Vedran Mileti?



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 14 16:35:38 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:35:38 -0500
Subject: broadcom wireless worked out of the box
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1255535535.8140.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	
Message-ID: <20091014163538.GE11823@wolff.to>

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:05:08 -0400,
  "Robert P. J. Day"  wrote:
> 
>   actually, upon closer inspection, i can see the directory
> /lib/firmware/b43, and rpm tells me it's part of the b43-openfwwf
> package, so can i assume that's why it just plain works in f12?  i
> don't recall that package from earlier releases.

That is a relatively new package. That firmware may not work (or work as
well as Broadcom's firmware) for everyone. I think there are some limitations
on the supported connection modes as compared to Broadcom's firmware.
But still it is nice, as it gives you another way to have a network
connection so that you can get Broadcom's firmware if you prefer it.
Presumably this firmware will get further development as time goes by since
the source is available. You might check the project web page to get the
current status of the firmware.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 16:55:22 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:55:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: firstboot resolution [Was: Re: any list for test installing f12
 beta on my x86_64 laptop?]
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<20091014134615.GA31673@wolff.to>
	
	
	<20091014161036.GB11823@wolff.to>
	
	
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Vedran Mileti? wrote:

> The reason for this resolution is probably that X thinks you have
> one more screen and then stretches firstboot over it.
>
> Second reason would be that Xpress 200 and Xpress 200M support in X
> is actually really, really bad, and broken in many cases. Not to
> mention that there are multiple versions of this chip, and each one
> is slightly different. Provide lspci -vnn for your card in your bug
> report.
>
> But, from what I understand, you actually have a working KMS?

  just to beat this soundly to death, i took a snap of dmesg from the
system -- here's what looks like the relevant bit (note the ERROR a
few lines in):

dracut: dracut-002-13.4.git8f397a9b.fc12
udev: starting version 145
[drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
usb 3-2: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2
[drm] radeon defaulting to kernel modesetting.
[drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
radeon 0000:01:05.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[drm] radeon: Initializing kernel modesetting.
[drm] register mmio base: 0xD0100000
[drm] register mmio size: 65536
[drm] GPU reset succeed (RBBM_STATUS=0x00000140)
[drm:rs400_gart_adjust_size] *ERROR* Forcing to 32M GART size (because of ASIC bug ?)
[drm] Generation 2 PCI interface, using max accessible memory
[drm] Clocks initialized !
[drm] radeon: 4 quad pipes, 1 z pipes initialized.
Failed to wait MC idle while programming pipes. Bad things might happen.
[drm] radeon: VRAM 64M
[drm] radeon: VRAM from 0x2C000000 to 0x2FFFFFFF
[drm] radeon: GTT 32M
[drm] radeon: GTT from 0x30000000 to 0x31FFFFFF
Failed to wait MC idle while programming pipes. Bad things might happen.
[drm] radeon: irq initialized.
[drm] Detected VRAM RAM=64M, BAR=64M
[drm] RAM width 128bits DDR
[TTM] Zone  kernel: Available graphics memory: 338398 kiB.
[drm] radeon: 64M of VRAM memory ready
[drm] radeon: 32M of GTT memory ready.
[drm] GART: num cpu pages 8192, num gpu pages 8192
[drm] radeon: cp idle (0x10000C03)
[drm] Loading R300 Microcode
platform radeon_cp.0: firmware: requesting radeon/R300_cp.bin
[drm] radeon: ring at 0x0000000030000000
[drm] ring test succeeded in 0 usecs
[drm] radeon: ib pool ready.
[drm] ib test succeeded in 0 usecs
[drm] radeon: kernel modesetting successfully initialized.
[drm] Default TV standard: NTSC
[drm] 14.318180000 MHz TV ref clk
[drm] Panel ID String: SEC
[drm] Panel Size 1280x800
[drm] Radeon Display Connectors
[drm] Connector 0:
[drm]   VGA
[drm]   DDC: 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68
[drm]   Encoders:
[drm]     CRT1: INTERNAL_DAC2
[drm] Connector 1:
[drm]   LVDS
[drm]   DDC: 0x1a0 0x1a0 0x1a0 0x1a0 0x1a0 0x1a0 0x1a4 0x1a4
[drm]   Encoders:
[drm]     LCD1: INTERNAL_LVDS
[drm] Connector 2:
[drm]   S-video
[drm]   Encoders:
[drm]     TV1: INTERNAL_DAC2
usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=046d, idProduct=c00e
usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 3-2: Product: USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
usb 3-2: Manufacturer: Logitech
usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
input: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/input/input6
generic-usb 0003:046D:C00E.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:13.1-2/input0
async/0 used greatest stack depth: 3840 bytes left
[drm] fb mappable at 0xD4040000
[drm] vram apper at 0xD4000000
[drm] size 4096000
[drm] fb depth is 24
[drm]    pitch is 5120
[drm] LVDS-11: set mode 1280x800 19
[drm] crtc 1 is connected to a TV
[drm] TV-9: set mode 800x600 1a

  and now, i will move on to other issues.

rday
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        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

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========================================================================



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 17:16:55 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:16:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: firstboot resolution [Was: Re: any list for test installing f12
 beta on my x86_64 laptop?]
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<20091014134615.GA31673@wolff.to>
	
	
	<20091014161036.GB11823@wolff.to>
	
	
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Vedran Mileti? wrote:

> The reason for this resolution is probably that X thinks you have
> one more screen and then stretches firstboot over it.

  i'm convinced that's true since, once the system is up, X starts the
desktop at 2080x800.  definitely wrong.  but i don't see anything i
did during the install that might have given it that impression.

> Second reason would be that Xpress 200 and Xpress 200M support in X
> is actually really, really bad, and broken in many cases. Not to
> mention that there are multiple versions of this chip, and each one
> is slightly different. Provide lspci -vnn for your card in your bug
> report.
>
> But, from what I understand, you actually have a working KMS?

  i've BZed this:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529026

in case anyone else wants to play.

rday
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========================================================================
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        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================

From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 17:20:10 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:20:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: broadcom wireless worked out of the box
In-Reply-To: <20091014163538.GE11823@wolff.to>
References: 
	<1255535535.8140.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	
	<20091014163538.GE11823@wolff.to>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:05:08 -0400,
>   "Robert P. J. Day"  wrote:
> >
> >   actually, upon closer inspection, i can see the directory
> > /lib/firmware/b43, and rpm tells me it's part of the b43-openfwwf
> > package, so can i assume that's why it just plain works in f12?
> > i don't recall that package from earlier releases.
>
> That is a relatively new package. That firmware may not work (or
> work as well as Broadcom's firmware) for everyone. I think there are
> some limitations on the supported connection modes as compared to
> Broadcom's firmware. But still it is nice, as it gives you another
> way to have a network connection so that you can get Broadcom's
> firmware if you prefer it. Presumably this firmware will get further
> development as time goes by since the source is available. You might
> check the project web page to get the current status of the
> firmware.

  even if it still has some issues, the fact that it works right out
of the install is brilliant.  that's a major improvement.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 14 17:29:40 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:29:40 -0700
Subject: any list for test installing f12 beta on my x86_64 laptop?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1255541380.2289.27.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 07:03 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> i'm just about to install f12 beta x86_64 on one of my ubiquitous
> gateway mx7120 laptops (broadcom wireless, ATI video), so i'm open to
> suggestions as to anything specific i should stress test.
> 
>   obviously, i'll be checking if wireless is still fairly
> straightforward to install (is there a URL for f12 wireless i should
> be referencing?), 

it would be interesting to know if your card works with the open
firmware for b43, rather than using ndiswrapper or the Broadcom 'wl'
driver. do 'yum install b43-openfwwf', reboot and see if the card works
(I think you may need to use it without encryption, at present).

> and i'll check if radeon video drivers are still
> totally borked.

from all recent indications they shouldn't be, hopefully. things seem to
be working reasonably well on most cards.

>   is there a walkthrough of what one should do in terms of testing?
> might as well be thorough while i'm here.

no particular walkthrough, really, but you could refer to the test days
we ran this cycle:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_12_test_days

any of the tests from any of those pages you can do is always useful.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 14 17:30:45 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:30:45 -0700
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: <1255541445.2289.28.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 09:07 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> 
> >
> >   my biggest worry regarding this install was whether video would work
> > properly (ati radeon xpress 200M).  after the installation (which
> > seemed to go fine), the reboot brought me back to the firstboot(?)
> > stuff, at which point the resolution being used was off to the point
> > where the "Cancel" and whatever other buttons that are normally at the
> > lower right were completely invisible -- they were clearly off the
> > border of the display somewhere in that direction.
> >
> >   the only way i could get thru that firstboot content was to use TAB
> > and guess which button i was pressing.  i eventually got through that
> > and logged in, at which point "xdpyinfo" told me it was using a
> > resolution of 2080x800, when the actual display res is only 1280x800.
> >
> >   thoughts?  given that video still seems problematic, what is the
> > proper protocol to deal with this?  in particular, what was the proper
> > approach at first reboot to be able to see the entire screen?  is this
> > a known issue?  thanks.
> >
> > rday
> >
> > p.s.  curiously, now that i'm in my desktop session, the four squares
> > in the bottom right representing my 4 virtual desktops are *extremely*
> > stretched horizontally, proportionate to that much larger res.  and if
> > i slide a window to the right and off the edge of the *visible*
> > display, i can still see the square representing that window in the
> > same virtual desktop, only way off to the right where it's not
> > visible.
> >
> > so how did f12 beta come to think of my laptop as having a 2080x800
> > display?  what should i have done (or be doing) differently?
> 
>   quick followup:  i just popped into System->Prefs->Display, at which
> point i was given a choice of resolution, the highest being the
> correct one of 1280x800.  i selected it, saved, and now things seem
> fine.
> 
>   but it's still odd where that initial 2080x800 res came from, and
> what i should have done differently to be able to see the entire
> screen during firstboot.
> 
>   whoops, i just restarted the system and i'm back to 2080x800.
> very strange.

what's the output of 'xrandr' at a console?

I suspect it thinks you have a second display attached, at resolution
800x600.

-- 
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http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 14 17:35:45 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:35:45 -0700
Subject: any list for test installing f12 beta on my x86_64 laptop?
In-Reply-To: <1255541380.2289.27.camel@adam.local.net>
References: 
	<1255541380.2289.27.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1255541745.2289.29.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 07:03 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > i'm just about to install f12 beta x86_64 on one of my ubiquitous
> > gateway mx7120 laptops (broadcom wireless, ATI video), so i'm open to
> > suggestions as to anything specific i should stress test.
> > 
> >   obviously, i'll be checking if wireless is still fairly
> > straightforward to install (is there a URL for f12 wireless i should
> > be referencing?), 
> 
> it would be interesting to know if your card works with the open
> firmware for b43, rather than using ndiswrapper or the Broadcom 'wl'
> driver. do 'yum install b43-openfwwf', reboot and see if the card works
> (I think you may need to use it without encryption, at present).

I really should read all the follow-ups before posting, shouldn't I? :)

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 14 17:40:06 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:40:06 -0700
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1255542006.2289.32.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 08:58 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> my biggest worry regarding this install was whether video would work
> properly (ati radeon xpress 200M).  after the installation (which
> seemed to go fine), the reboot brought me back to the firstboot(?)
> stuff, at which point the resolution being used was off to the point
> where the "Cancel" and whatever other buttons that are normally at the
> lower right were completely invisible -- they were clearly off the
> border of the display somewhere in that direction.
> 
>   the only way i could get thru that firstboot content was to use TAB
> and guess which button i was pressing.  i eventually got through that
> and logged in, at which point "xdpyinfo" told me it was using a
> resolution of 2080x800, when the actual display res is only 1280x800.

in addition to the root cause of this, which we're discussing elsewhere,
it occurs to me that this is probably also a bug in firstboot (or, more
specifically, in whatever WM we're using to run firstboot). it shouldn't
span the firstboot window across both displays - even when you can see
both, that's going to look silly. I'll look into this further and file a
bug if/where appropriate.

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 17:45:11 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:45:11 +0300
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: <4AD4C0E1.8070004@bwh.harvard.edu>
References: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com> <4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>
	<1255456177.2380.45.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4AD4C0E1.8070004@bwh.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: 

>
> >> All ISOs are ready for download at this point
> >> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/
> >
>

no live cd's?

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From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 17:53:00 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:53:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: <1255541445.2289.28.camel@adam.local.net>
References: 
	
	<1255541445.2289.28.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:

... snip ...

> what's the output of 'xrandr' at a console?

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2080 x 800, maximum 4096 x 4096
VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
LVDS connected 1280x800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 331mm x 207mm
   1280x800       60.0*+
   1280x720       59.9
   1152x768       59.8
   1024x768       60.0     59.9
   800x600        60.3     59.9     56.2
   848x480        59.7
   720x480        59.7
   640x480        59.9     59.4
S-video disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

> I suspect it thinks you have a second display attached, at
> resolution 800x600.

  i'm guessing you meant 800x800, not 800x600 -- that's the difference
between the actual res (1280x800) and what "xdpyinfo" is showing.  so,
yes, it shows LVDS at the correct res (1280x800), but i don't see
where it recognizes a second display.

  oh, wait ... i just ran System->Prefs->Display and, sure enough,
there was an additional 800x600 display.  where did that come from?
i certainly didn't select that kind of config during install.

rday
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From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 18:18:18 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:18:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: <1255542006.2289.32.camel@adam.local.net>
References: 
	<1255542006.2289.32.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 08:58 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > my biggest worry regarding this install was whether video would
> > work properly (ati radeon xpress 200M).  after the installation
> > (which seemed to go fine), the reboot brought me back to the
> > firstboot(?) stuff, at which point the resolution being used was
> > off to the point where the "Cancel" and whatever other buttons
> > that are normally at the lower right were completely invisible --
> > they were clearly off the border of the display somewhere in that
> > direction.
> >
> >   the only way i could get thru that firstboot content was to use TAB
> > and guess which button i was pressing.  i eventually got through that
> > and logged in, at which point "xdpyinfo" told me it was using a
> > resolution of 2080x800, when the actual display res is only 1280x800.
>
> in addition to the root cause of this, which we're discussing
> elsewhere, it occurs to me that this is probably also a bug in
> firstboot (or, more specifically, in whatever WM we're using to run
> firstboot). it shouldn't span the firstboot window across both
> displays - even when you can see both, that's going to look silly.
> I'll look into this further and file a bug if/where appropriate.

  ok.  just FYI, i rebooted and i'm back at xdpyinfo claiming i have
2080x800 res.  i'll leave it there just in case you want me to try
something else.

rday
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        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
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From poelstra at redhat.com  Wed Oct 14 18:24:39 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:24:39 -0700
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com>
	<4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>	<1255456177.2380.45.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4AD4C0E1.8070004@bwh.harvard.edu>
	
Message-ID: <4AD61767.7090008@redhat.com>

cornel panceac said the following on 10/14/2009 10:45 AM Pacific Time:
>>>> All ISOs are ready for download at this point
>>>> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/
> 
> no live cd's?
> 
> 


I was wondering too.

https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2192

We are cutting it very close if we still plan to stage to the mirrors 
tomorrow.
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng-tasks.html

John



From mike at cchtml.com  Wed Oct 14 18:25:25 2009
From: mike at cchtml.com (Michael Cronenworth)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:25:25 -0500
Subject: broadcom wireless worked out of the box
In-Reply-To: 
References: 	<1255535535.8140.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>		<20091014163538.GE11823@wolff.to>
	
Message-ID: <4AD61795.4090701@cchtml.com>

Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> 
>   even if it still has some issues, the fact that it works right out
> of the install is brilliant.  that's a major improvement.


You know though, when the mass public find out that this works as well
as you have found all the credit will go to......... Ubuntu. :D




From cpanceac at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 18:29:08 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:29:08 +0300
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: <4AD61767.7090008@redhat.com>
References: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com> <4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>
	<1255456177.2380.45.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4AD4C0E1.8070004@bwh.harvard.edu>
	
	<4AD61767.7090008@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

2009/10/14 John Poelstra 

> cornel panceac said the following on 10/14/2009 10:45 AM Pacific Time:
>
>> All ISOs are ready for download at this point
>>>>> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/
>>>>>
>>>>
>> no live cd's?
>>
>>
>>
>
> I was wondering too.
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2192
>
> We are cutting it very close if we still plan to stage to the mirrors
> tomorrow.
> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng-tasks.html
>

thank  you very much. i believe the live cd is the most network friendly way
to test the gui capability of fedora.


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From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 14 18:08:29 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:08:29 -0700
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	<1255541445.2289.28.camel@adam.local.net>
	
Message-ID: <1255543709.2376.3.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 13:53 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> ... snip ...
> 
> > what's the output of 'xrandr' at a console?
> 
> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2080 x 800, maximum 4096 x 4096
> VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> LVDS connected 1280x800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 331mm x 207mm
>    1280x800       60.0*+
>    1280x720       59.9
>    1152x768       59.8
>    1024x768       60.0     59.9
>    800x600        60.3     59.9     56.2
>    848x480        59.7
>    720x480        59.7
>    640x480        59.9     59.4
> S-video disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> 
> > I suspect it thinks you have a second display attached, at
> > resolution 800x600.
> 
>   i'm guessing you meant 800x800, not 800x600 -- that's the difference
> between the actual res (1280x800) and what "xdpyinfo" is showing.  

nope, I didn't. I meant 800x600, because that's the most common 800 wide
resolution. X's 'screens' are always rectangular - so if you have one
head at 1600x1200 and another at 800x600 it'll just give you a square at
2400x1200, it won't give you an odd polygon with the exact right
heights. Actually, if you use such a setup, you'll notice you can scroll
the mouse off the bottom of the smaller display (in most WMs, I think
some 'fix' this). Anyway, not really important what the res of the
phantom display is.

> so,
> yes, it shows LVDS at the correct res (1280x800), but i don't see
> where it recognizes a second display.

me either, which is interesting, because...

>   oh, wait ... i just ran System->Prefs->Display and, sure enough,
> there was an additional 800x600 display.  where did that come from?
> i certainly didn't select that kind of config during install.

...this app and xrandr really ought to agree. strange that they don't.
well, please definitely attach Xorg.0.log - and probably that dmesg
output, too - to the bug report, as I asked. adding the above
information about gnome-display-properties (perhaps even a screenshot)
would help too. thanks!

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From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 14 18:38:09 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:38:09 -0700
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: <1255542006.2289.32.camel@adam.local.net>
References: 
	<1255542006.2289.32.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1255545489.2376.4.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:40 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 08:58 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > my biggest worry regarding this install was whether video would work
> > properly (ati radeon xpress 200M).  after the installation (which
> > seemed to go fine), the reboot brought me back to the firstboot(?)
> > stuff, at which point the resolution being used was off to the point
> > where the "Cancel" and whatever other buttons that are normally at the
> > lower right were completely invisible -- they were clearly off the
> > border of the display somewhere in that direction.
> > 
> >   the only way i could get thru that firstboot content was to use TAB
> > and guess which button i was pressing.  i eventually got through that
> > and logged in, at which point "xdpyinfo" told me it was using a
> > resolution of 2080x800, when the actual display res is only 1280x800.
> 
> in addition to the root cause of this, which we're discussing elsewhere,
> it occurs to me that this is probably also a bug in firstboot (or, more
> specifically, in whatever WM we're using to run firstboot). it shouldn't
> span the firstboot window across both displays - even when you can see
> both, that's going to look silly. I'll look into this further and file a
> bug if/where appropriate.

Filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529045

this looks quite icky :(

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From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 19:35:13 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:35:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: <1255545489.2376.4.camel@adam.local.net>
References: 
	<1255542006.2289.32.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255545489.2376.4.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:40 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 08:58 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > > my biggest worry regarding this install was whether video would work
> > > properly (ati radeon xpress 200M).  after the installation (which
> > > seemed to go fine), the reboot brought me back to the firstboot(?)
> > > stuff, at which point the resolution being used was off to the point
> > > where the "Cancel" and whatever other buttons that are normally at the
> > > lower right were completely invisible -- they were clearly off the
> > > border of the display somewhere in that direction.
> > >
> > >   the only way i could get thru that firstboot content was to use TAB
> > > and guess which button i was pressing.  i eventually got through that
> > > and logged in, at which point "xdpyinfo" told me it was using a
> > > resolution of 2080x800, when the actual display res is only 1280x800.
> >
> > in addition to the root cause of this, which we're discussing elsewhere,
> > it occurs to me that this is probably also a bug in firstboot (or, more
> > specifically, in whatever WM we're using to run firstboot). it shouldn't
> > span the firstboot window across both displays - even when you can see
> > both, that's going to look silly. I'll look into this further and file a
> > bug if/where appropriate.
>
> Filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529045
>
> this looks quite icky :(

  ok, so this is officially filed, which would seem to make my BZ
somewhat superfluous as the BZ above has way more detail.

rday
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        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 14 19:57:20 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:57:20 -0700
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1255542006.2289.32.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255545489.2376.4.camel@adam.local.net>
	
Message-ID: <1255550240.2376.10.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:35 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

> > Filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529045
> >
> > this looks quite icky :(
> 
>   ok, so this is officially filed, which would seem to make my BZ
> somewhat superfluous as the BZ above has way more detail.

no, your bugzilla is for the other issue - that radeon driver thinks
your system has a second output attached at all. my bugzilla is for the
issue that firstboot doesn't behave well when there are two outputs
(whether they really exist or not :>). they're separate issues, need to
be handled separately.

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 14 20:01:13 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:01:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: <1255550240.2376.10.camel@adam.local.net>
References: 
	<1255542006.2289.32.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255545489.2376.4.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	<1255550240.2376.10.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:35 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> > > Filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529045
> > >
> > > this looks quite icky :(
> >
> >   ok, so this is officially filed, which would seem to make my BZ
> > somewhat superfluous as the BZ above has way more detail.
>
> no, your bugzilla is for the other issue - that radeon driver thinks
> your system has a second output attached at all. my bugzilla is for
> the issue that firstboot doesn't behave well when there are two
> outputs (whether they really exist or not :>). they're separate
> issues, need to be handled separately.

  ah, quite right.  i'll stay on top of the first one.

rday
--

========================================================================
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        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 14 21:51:56 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:51:56 -0700
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1255542006.2289.32.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255545489.2376.4.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	<1255550240.2376.10.camel@adam.local.net>
	
Message-ID: <1255557116.2314.2.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 16:01 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:35 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >
> > > > Filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529045
> > > >
> > > > this looks quite icky :(
> > >
> > >   ok, so this is officially filed, which would seem to make my BZ
> > > somewhat superfluous as the BZ above has way more detail.
> >
> > no, your bugzilla is for the other issue - that radeon driver thinks
> > your system has a second output attached at all. my bugzilla is for
> > the issue that firstboot doesn't behave well when there are two
> > outputs (whether they really exist or not :>). they're separate
> > issues, need to be handled separately.
> 
>   ah, quite right.  i'll stay on top of the first one.

Hi, Robert. If you can - as quickly as you can - could you test this
build of firstboot:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=136672

and see how it works for you? Just download and install the appropriate
package for your arch, then edit /etc/sysconfig/firstboot and change the
NO to YES, and run 'chkconfig firstboot on' as root. Then restart and it
should boot into firstboot. Are the buttons visible now? I hope they may
be, but I suspect they won't.

Don't run through the wizard either way, it may have unpredictable
results. Once you've tested, reboot to runlevel 3 (add '3' as a kernel
parameter), quit out of the system-config menu thing that loads up, log
in as root, and change /etc/sysconfig/firstboot back to NO and disable
the firstboot service.

thanks!

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From gene at czarc.net  Wed Oct 14 22:58:26 2009
From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:58:26 -0400
Subject: F12 comments and questions
Message-ID: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>

It has been a few years since I followed/tested the Fedora development cycle.  
I am pleasantly surprised and pleased with the quality of the process, the 
responsiveness of the maintainers/developers, and the quality of the resulting 
product ... a really good job!  I am pleased enough with F12 that I plan to 
upgrade all of my F11 systems to F12 when F12 is released and I have not 
updated like this in years (I recently upgraded from F9 to F11).

I am hoping that the recently described problems with the X server and 
firstboot are not a show-stopper for the Beta and that the Beta does appear 
next week so that I can give installing it a try.  For all intents and 
purposes, I am running the beta now since I have kept my real (baremetal) F12 
systems updated and well as installing the F12beta release candidates as qemu-
kvm guests.  But, when the beta is out, I will re-install using the beta DVD 
to make sure that works.

As I said, it has been a few years since I followed the development process.  
I assume that the current lack of additional rawhide updates is so that a 
"good" beta release could be done and that updates will resume once the beta 
DVD, etc. have been cut ... is this correct?

I also assume that the addition of function is now frozen with the beta and 
that only bug fix updates will be added to rawhide ... correct?

Gene



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 14 23:01:22 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:31:22 +0530
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <4AD65842.5090502@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/15/2009 04:28 AM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:

> As I said, it has been a few years since I followed the development process.  
> I assume that the current lack of additional rawhide updates is so that a 
> "good" beta release could be done and that updates will resume once the beta 
> DVD, etc. have been cut ... is this correct?
> 
> I also assume that the addition of function is now frozen with the beta and 
> that only bug fix updates will be added to rawhide ... correct?

Correct. We are going through a Beta freeze. Maintainers aren't allowed
to push updates to Rawhide directly anymore and would have to submit a
request to release engineering to tag the update explaining why the fix
is important enough (typically it is small enough as well).

The links from the schedule describe the freeze policies in more detail

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Beta_Freeze_Policy

If you have more questions, feel free to ask.

Rahul



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 14 23:10:48 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:10:48 -0700
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <1255561848.2314.12.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 18:58 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
> I am hoping that the recently described problems with the X server
> and 
> firstboot are not a show-stopper for the Beta and that the Beta does
> appear 
> next week so that I can give installing it a try. 

The problem only affects systems with multiple displays (or, more
rarely, systems with one display but a driver bug which makes X _think_
they have multiple displays, as in Robert's case). It's not an absolute
showstopper, you can blindly tab-enter your way through the wizard, or
you can just boot the first time with the second display not connected.
We won't be delaying the beta for it, is the final decision, it'll be
fixed post-beta.

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 14 23:11:24 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:11:24 -0700
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <1255561884.2314.13.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 18:58 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:

> As I said, it has been a few years since I followed the development process.  
> I assume that the current lack of additional rawhide updates is so that a 
> "good" beta release could be done and that updates will resume once the beta 
> DVD, etc. have been cut ... is this correct?

Partly. Some fixes still won't be accepted, though, and will be required
to be 0-day updates or pushed to F-13.

> I also assume that the addition of function is now frozen with the beta and 
> that only bug fix updates will be added to rawhide ... correct?

Yes.

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Wed Oct 14 23:47:06 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:47:06 +1100
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <1255564027.3049.143.camel@moose.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 18:58 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
> It has been a few years since I followed/tested the Fedora development cycle.  
> I am pleasantly surprised and pleased with the quality of the process, the 
> responsiveness of the maintainers/developers, and the quality of the resulting 
> product ... a really good job!  I am pleased enough with F12 that I plan to 
> upgrade all of my F11 systems to F12 when F12 is released and I have not 
> updated like this in years (I recently upgraded from F9 to F11).

I'm glad you've had a great experience, but I'd be 'testing' each
machine before just assuming f12 is good to go.

I'm having nightmares (which are slowly being dealt with).  I'm pretty
sure there a number of issues I will need to file bugs on (for example,
pressing the eject button doesn't eject the disk in f11) but until I can
run the desktop for more than a minute or so without a near total lockup
then it's hard to really contribute in any other way.

I'm on a Dell Studio XPS so it's relatively modern hardware, but it's
not exactly cutting edge.  It's the ATI video card that seems to be
causing most of the issues.

I've been wondering for some time whether a serious review of the way
bugs are 'triaged' and resources are applied isn't needed.  While I'm
happy that other bugs for 'less vital[1]' parts of F12 are being
addressed, I would have thought that basic system requirements like X,
the kernel should just work, and if they don't, then extra effort should
be put into addressing these issues.

As justification for this, I'm happy to contribute, but without a
working X I can't really help out until the problem is resolved, which
I'm sure everyone would admit is a big stumbling block.  Hands up anyone
who thinks it matters that  has a bug, if
they can't get X running to use .  It's fair
to say that , working or otherwise, is
pointless without a platform to run it on.

Anyhow, I'd running a live CD before upgrading lock, stock and barrel to
f12.  Not everyone's experiences have been so positive as yours.


Rodd

[1] I know less vital is vague, but I would class being able to run an
alternative web browser as a less important bug than making sure that X
works and is stable, as an example.



From bruno at wolff.to  Thu Oct 15 00:00:09 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:00:09 -0500
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <1255564027.3049.143.camel@moose.localdomain>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
	<1255564027.3049.143.camel@moose.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20091015000008.GA997@wolff.to>

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:47:06 +1100,
  Rodd Clarkson  wrote:
> 
> I'm on a Dell Studio XPS so it's relatively modern hardware, but it's
> not exactly cutting edge.  It's the ATI video card that seems to be
> causing most of the issues.

There have been some recent improvements from me when running with
KMS enabled. 

> As justification for this, I'm happy to contribute, but without a
> working X I can't really help out until the problem is resolved, which
> I'm sure everyone would admit is a big stumbling block.  Hands up anyone
> who thinks it matters that  has a bug, if
> they can't get X running to use .  It's fair
> to say that , working or otherwise, is
> pointless without a platform to run it on.

As the maintainer of the games spin not having working graphics is a real
pain. Because my monitors don't do EDID correctly, graphics hasn't worked
right for a long time.  Now I get 800x600 by default and 3d works enough
on my ati 9200 that I can do some testing with a real games spin build.
(I use xorg.conf files and had been using nomodeset to make my systems
usable, but those are in the normal games spin.) Also testing glest
(which I recently started maintaining) is hard with 3d not working
very well.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 00:13:27 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:13:27 -0700
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <1255564027.3049.143.camel@moose.localdomain>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
	<1255564027.3049.143.camel@moose.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1255565607.2314.16.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 10:47 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> Hands up anyone
> who thinks it matters that  has a bug, if
> they can't get X running to use . 

The problem is that bugs in X tend to be device-specific (and hence only
affect people who are unfortunate enough to own that exact device), but
bugs in, say, Firefox affect everybody.

The other issue is that the developers of, say, Firefox know crap all
about fixing bugs in X. And vice versa. Coders aren't interchangeable
resources, you don't just pick them at random and point them at
problems. (Well, some people do. This appears to be how Windows is
developed...) Even more specifically...Ben Skeggs (whose area of
expertise is nouveau) might be able to fix basic bugs in radeon, but
probably nothing complex. Not, at least, without a lot of extra
training, during which time no-one's fixing bugs in nouveau.

-- 
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http://www.happyassassin.net



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Thu Oct 15 01:05:02 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:05:02 -0400
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <1255561848.2314.12.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
	<1255561848.2314.12.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AD6753E.80608@speakeasy.net>

I hope to have time to do another install soon. I apologize for not 
being more active and filing bugs as I should. This fall is really busy 
for me.

Bob Cochran


On 10/14/2009 07:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 18:58 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
>    
>> I am hoping that the recently described problems with the X server
>> and
>> firstboot are not a show-stopper for the Beta and that the Beta does
>> appear
>> next week so that I can give installing it a try.
>>      
> The problem only affects systems with multiple displays (or, more
> rarely, systems with one display but a driver bug which makes X _think_
> they have multiple displays, as in Robert's case). It's not an absolute
> showstopper, you can blindly tab-enter your way through the wizard, or
> you can just boot the first time with the second display not connected.
> We won't be delaying the beta for it, is the final decision, it'll be
> fixed post-beta.
>
>    



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 01:50:40 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:50:40 -0700
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <4AD6753E.80608@speakeasy.net>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
	<1255561848.2314.12.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4AD6753E.80608@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <1255571440.2314.17.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:05 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I hope to have time to do another install soon. I apologize for not 
> being more active and filing bugs as I should. This fall is really busy 
> for me.

I was referring to Robert Day, who reported the bug in question this
monrning :)

-- 
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From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Thu Oct 15 01:58:07 2009
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:58:07 -0400
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <1255571440.2314.17.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>	<1255561848.2314.12.camel@adam.local.net>	<4AD6753E.80608@speakeasy.net>
	<1255571440.2314.17.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AD681AF.2000306@speakeasy.net>


On 10/14/2009 09:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:05 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>    
>> I hope to have time to do another install soon. I apologize for not
>> being more active and filing bugs as I should. This fall is really busy
>> for me.
>>      
> I was referring to Robert Day, who reported the bug in question this
> monrning :)
>    

I got my just desserts for not reading the entire thread.

Bob



From P.Glassenbury at cosc.canterbury.ac.nz  Thu Oct 15 02:00:13 2009
From: P.Glassenbury at cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Peter Glassenbury (CSSE))
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:00:13 +1300
Subject: F12 -hang on boot - NetworkManger problem?
Message-ID: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>

I have F12_x86_64 installed from alpha ISO and kept up to date
with a yum update. (running on a intel core2-duo)

I am always getting a hang on boot at the stage of..
       Starting system message bus.

It waits at this point for just over 10 minutes, then
continues through normally to runlevel 5.

Errors in /var/log/messages say

nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ......can't contact LDAP server

It repeats  this many times while starting the dbus-daemon and eventually times out.
It repeats  the error through automountd and rpc.statd
and then finally NetworkManager runs again and starts the network


Where should I report this as a bug? and against what...
Network manager for not getting its act together earlier or
general init.d boot script order..??

In an F10 install we had to remove NetworkManager to get a
working system.
Currently I'm testing F11 and F12alpha and F11 works fine.
(on the same hardware machines)

Any help or pointers on what to report greatly received.

Pete



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From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 15 01:58:40 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:28:40 +0530
Subject: broadcom wireless worked out of the box
In-Reply-To: <4AD61795.4090701@cchtml.com>
References: 	<1255535535.8140.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>		<20091014163538.GE11823@wolff.to>	
	<4AD61795.4090701@cchtml.com>
Message-ID: <4AD681D0.20800@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/14/2009 11:55 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>
>>   even if it still has some issues, the fact that it works right out
>> of the install is brilliant.  that's a major improvement.
> 
> 
> You know though, when the mass public find out that this works as well
> as you have found all the credit will go to......... Ubuntu. :D

That's ok. They put a lot more effort into a mass public distribution
than Fedora does.  We have a different focus for good or bad and we have
consistently produced results. If more users don't get to know about the
work we do, it is certainly our fault for not telling it in a way that
reaches them.  I am not just talking about marketing although it is part
of what is necessary. Focus is useful c.f. Fedora Advisory Board mailing
list discussions.

Rahul



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 02:06:33 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:06:33 -0700
Subject: F12 -hang on boot - NetworkManger problem?
In-Reply-To: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
References: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <1255572393.2314.18.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 15:00 +1300, Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
> I have F12_x86_64 installed from alpha ISO and kept up to date
> with a yum update. (running on a intel core2-duo)
> 
> I am always getting a hang on boot at the stage of..
>        Starting system message bus.
> 
> It waits at this point for just over 10 minutes, then
> continues through normally to runlevel 5.
> 
> Errors in /var/log/messages say
> 
> nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ......can't contact LDAP server
> 
> It repeats  this many times while starting the dbus-daemon and eventually times out.
> It repeats  the error through automountd and rpc.statd
> and then finally NetworkManager runs again and starts the network
> 
> 
> Where should I report this as a bug? and against what...
> Network manager for not getting its act together earlier or
> general init.d boot script order..??
> 
> In an F10 install we had to remove NetworkManager to get a
> working system.
> Currently I'm testing F11 and F12alpha and F11 works fine.
> (on the same hardware machines)
> 
> Any help or pointers on what to report greatly received.

How is this system configured? What does it need to contact the LDAP
server for?

-- 
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From craigwhite at azapple.com  Thu Oct 15 02:15:54 2009
From: craigwhite at azapple.com (Craig White)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:15:54 -0700
Subject: F12 -hang on boot - NetworkManger problem?
In-Reply-To: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
References: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <1255572955.24496.51.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 15:00 +1300, Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
> I have F12_x86_64 installed from alpha ISO and kept up to date
> with a yum update. (running on a intel core2-duo)
> 
> I am always getting a hang on boot at the stage of..
>        Starting system message bus.
> 
> It waits at this point for just over 10 minutes, then
> continues through normally to runlevel 5.
> 
> Errors in /var/log/messages say
> 
> nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ......can't contact LDAP server
> 
> It repeats  this many times while starting the dbus-daemon and eventually times out.
> It repeats  the error through automountd and rpc.statd
> and then finally NetworkManager runs again and starts the network
> 
> 
> Where should I report this as a bug? and against what...
> Network manager for not getting its act together earlier or
> general init.d boot script order..??
> 
> In an F10 install we had to remove NetworkManager to get a
> working system.
> Currently I'm testing F11 and F12alpha and F11 works fine.
> (on the same hardware machines)
> 
> Any help or pointers on what to report greatly received.
----
add the following to /etc/ldap.conf

nss_initgroups_ignoreusers root, ldap, dbus, named
timelimit 30
bind_timelimit 30
bind_policy soft

you might want to add other daemon 'users' from /etc/passwd the the
'ignoreusers' line too.

Craig


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From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Thu Oct 15 02:35:45 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:35:45 -0400
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <20091015000008.GA997@wolff.to>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>	<1255564027.3049.143.camel@moose.localdomain>
	<20091015000008.GA997@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <4AD68A81.9070802@cox.net>

On 10/14/2009 08:00 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> 
>
> There have been some recent improvements from me when running with
> KMS enabled.
>
>> 
>
Problematic with RV600...I have to use nomodeset for anaconda to work, 
but once installed I don't need it. Bz'd a couple of times....



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Thu Oct 15 02:59:51 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:59:51 -0400
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <4AD6753E.80608@speakeasy.net>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
	<1255561848.2314.12.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4AD6753E.80608@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <20091015025951.GA13661@mail.scottro.net>

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:05:02PM -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I hope to have time to do another install soon. I apologize for not  
> being more active and filing bugs as I should. This fall is really busy  
> for me.
>
> Bob Cochran

I don't even know if this is worth mentioning.  I did a fairly quick
test install at work, the way I usually do it. (This will, eventually be
for a developer.) As it's work, I don't have time to really play around
and see what's broken. But, at any rate, taking disk1 of the beta,
unchecking everything, it installed without problem in VirtualBox.  I
then updated (nothing to update) and installed x-base, fluxbox and a few
other things.  Everything was smooth.  I did the very minor test of
changing default partitioning, just using a swap and a / of ext4 (no
separate /boot.)

No issues.  This is a very superficial test, and on a Virtual Machine.

However, an encouraging start. 

-- 
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PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

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And I happen to know that factually that's true.



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Thu Oct 15 03:05:46 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:05:46 -0400
Subject: F12 -hang on boot - NetworkManger problem?
In-Reply-To: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
References: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <20091015030546.GB13661@mail.scottro.net>

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 03:00:13PM +1300, Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
> I have F12_x86_64 installed from alpha ISO and kept up to date
> with a yum update. (running on a intel core2-duo)
>
> I am always getting a hang on boot at the stage of..
>       Starting system message bus.
>
> It waits at this point for just over 10 minutes, then
> continues through normally to runlevel 5.
>
> Errors in /var/log/messages say
>
> nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ......can't contact LDAP server
>

This may be a 5 year old bug, which I can't find right now, reported 
against RedHat.

What happens, if it is set to authenticate against LDAP, is that if it
can't find a server. it will hang.  There are probably a few lines in
/etc/nsswitch.conf reading 
files ldap

Though it's supposed to check local files first, it doesn't. 

Oddly enough, it seems to just want reassurance that an LDAP server
exists--for example, if you have it set to look to an LDAP server, but
there are no accounts that can authenticate against said server, it
won't hang. 

This can often be fixed (again, making the assumption that is the same
issue), by editing /etc/ldap.conf  (NOT /etc/openldap/ldap.conf) and
changing the commented line bind_policy hard to an uncommented

bind_policy soft

If you have no ldap entries in nsswitch.conf, of course, it's some other
issue.  


-- 
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guys noticed that?
Oz: I don't know. I always go straight to the obits.



From lili at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 03:29:17 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:29:17 +0800
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: <4AD61767.7090008@redhat.com>
References: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com>	<4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>	<1255456177.2380.45.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4AD4C0E1.8070004@bwh.harvard.edu>	
	<4AD61767.7090008@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4AD6970D.2050602@redhat.com>

On 10/15/2009 02:24 AM, John Poelstra wrote:
> cornel panceac said the following on 10/14/2009 10:45 AM Pacific Time:
>>>>> All ISOs are ready for download at this point
>>>>> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/
>>
>> no live cd's?
>>
>>
>
>
> I was wondering too.
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2192
>
> We are cutting it very close if we still plan to stage to the mirrors
> tomorrow.
> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng-tasks.html
>
> John
>

Yes,The release candidate should include LiveCD, I have requested it via 
ticket#2192, hope the later RC will contain LiveCD along with other DVDs 
and CDs

Liam



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 03:33:24 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:33:24 -0700
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: <4AD6970D.2050602@redhat.com>
References: <4AD3F254.5070503@redhat.com>	<4AD43540.3020804@redhat.com>
	<1255456177.2380.45.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4AD4C0E1.8070004@bwh.harvard.edu>
	
	<4AD61767.7090008@redhat.com>  <4AD6970D.2050602@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1255577604.6380.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 11:29 +0800, Liam wrote:
> 
> Yes,The release candidate should include LiveCD, I have requested it via 
> ticket#2192, hope the later RC will contain LiveCD along with other DVDs 
> and CDs
> 

I'm composing the Live now.  Due to compose system disk space, I wanted
to be more confident of the CD/DVD set before I started on live images,
as I had to finish up work and scrub the CD/DVD set to make room to
compose the Live images.


-- 
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From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Thu Oct 15 03:50:06 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:50:06 +1100
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <1255565607.2314.16.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
	<1255564027.3049.143.camel@moose.localdomain>
	<1255565607.2314.16.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1255578606.3049.156.camel@moose.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:13 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 10:47 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> > Hands up anyone
> > who thinks it matters that  has a bug, if
> > they can't get X running to use . 
> 
> The problem is that bugs in X tend to be device-specific (and hence only
> affect people who are unfortunate enough to own that exact device), but
> bugs in, say, Firefox affect everybody.

I don't know if Firefox works or not ;-]

But I get that X is complex, I'm just saying that it would be great if
more resources could be put into making the core system work (which
would 'free up' more 'affected' people to find other issues and address
them.)

> The other issue is that the developers of, say, Firefox know crap all
> about fixing bugs in X. And vice versa. Coders aren't interchangeable
> resources, you don't just pick them at random and point them at
> problems. (Well, some people do. This appears to be how Windows is
> developed...) Even more specifically...Ben Skeggs (whose area of
> expertise is nouveau) might be able to fix basic bugs in radeon, but
> probably nothing complex. Not, at least, without a lot of extra
> training, during which time no-one's fixing bugs in nouveau.

I also get that it's very complex, but to be honest, as someone who has
had a series of sub-par performances on a variety of laptops due to pour
chipset support, I'd really like to see Redhat/Fedora putting a bunch of
effort into this area for a release cycle and getting things a whole
bunch better.  Having graphics that just works is a big win for
everyone.

The best graphics experience I've had with Linux (which for me is Fedora
and Centos) has been using the proprietary nvidia driver (and that has a
times sucked badly too).  And while I'm willing to go without 3D support
on my work desktop, basics like having a stable desktop, and having
suspend/resume support aren't in my opinion small issues to be ignored.
Ironically, I chose my current laptop (with it's ATI chipset) because I
thought the ATI support was supposed to be reasonable and because I
admired Fedora stance on free software and avoiding unsupported,
proprietary drivers.  (I now recommend people using nvidia and and
proprietary drivers, or intel if they have to and avoid ATI all
together)


R.
> 
> -- 
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> http://www.happyassassin.net
> 



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 04:46:57 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:46:57 -0700
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <1255578606.3049.156.camel@moose.localdomain>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
	<1255564027.3049.143.camel@moose.localdomain>
	<1255565607.2314.16.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255578606.3049.156.camel@moose.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1255582017.2314.29.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 14:50 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> The best graphics experience I've had with Linux (which for me is
> Fedora
> and Centos) has been using the proprietary nvidia driver (and that has
> a
> times sucked badly too).  And while I'm willing to go without 3D
> support
> on my work desktop, basics like having a stable desktop, and having
> suspend/resume support aren't in my opinion small issues to be
> ignored.

No-one ever said they were.

nouveau bugs closed during F12 Rawhide cycle: 53
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=Fedora&product=Fedora&component=xorg-x11-drv-nouveau&version=rawhide&bug_status=CLOSED&chfieldfrom=2009-05-01&chfieldto=Now&chfield=bug_status&chfieldvalue=CLOSED

radeon bugs closed during F12 Rawhide cycle: 80
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=Fedora&product=Fedora&component=xorg-x11-drv-ati&version=rawhide&bug_status=CLOSED&chfieldfrom=2009-05-01&chfieldto=Now&chfield=bug_status&chfieldvalue=CLOSED

intel bugs closed during F12 Rawhide cycle: 58
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=Fedora&product=Fedora&component=xorg-x11-drv-intel&version=rawhide&bug_status=CLOSED&chfieldfrom=2009-05-01&chfieldto=Now&chfield=bug_status&chfieldvalue=CLOSED

Fedora works hard on these components. They're priorities for triage,
blocker review, everything else. Red Hat works hard on these components.
We pay more X.org developers than any other distributor, as far as I
know. We're the only distribution who pays lead upstream developers to
work on all three drivers, as well as the rest of X.org, including the
server itself.

I'm just trying to make the point that both RH and Fedora work extremely
hard on these components. You seem to be implying that (both RH and
Fedora) we don't, which is not the case.

> Ironically, I chose my current laptop (with it's ATI chipset) because
> I
> thought the ATI support was supposed to be reasonable and because I
> admired Fedora stance on free software and avoiding unsupported,
> proprietary drivers.  (I now recommend people using nvidia and and
> proprietary drivers, or intel if they have to and avoid ATI all
> together) 

I'm not sure why you'd have got that impression. ATI is getting a lot
better recently, but it's still not really on a level with Intel as far
as free driver support goes, or NVIDIA as far as proprietary driver
support goes.

-- 
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http://www.happyassassin.net



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Thu Oct 15 05:07:43 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:07:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: <1255557116.2314.2.camel@adam.local.net>
References: 
	<1255542006.2289.32.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255545489.2376.4.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	<1255550240.2376.10.camel@adam.local.net> 
	
	<1255557116.2314.2.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:

> Hi, Robert. If you can - as quickly as you can - could you test this
> build of firstboot:
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=136672
>
> and see how it works for you? Just download and install the appropriate
> package for your arch, then edit /etc/sysconfig/firstboot and change the
> NO to YES, and run 'chkconfig firstboot on' as root. Then restart and it
> should boot into firstboot. Are the buttons visible now? I hope they may
> be, but I suspect they won't.
>
> Don't run through the wizard either way, it may have unpredictable
> results. Once you've tested, reboot to runlevel 3 (add '3' as a kernel
> parameter), quit out of the system-config menu thing that loads up, log
> in as root, and change /etc/sysconfig/firstboot back to NO and disable
> the firstboot service.
>
> thanks!

  sorry for the delay -- yes, that solves my issue, i can now see the
entire screen in firstboot.  and i ran thru firstboot in its entirety
since this is just a test system and there's nothing worth saving.
so, from the perspective of just being able to see the entire screen,
it looks good.

  OTOH, xdpyinfo still thinks i have a 2080x800 display but we already
know that's a different issue.

rday
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 05:14:31 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:14:31 -0700
Subject: progress report:  f12 beta x86_64 on gateway mx7120
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1255542006.2289.32.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255545489.2376.4.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	<1255550240.2376.10.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	<1255557116.2314.2.camel@adam.local.net>
	
Message-ID: <1255583671.2314.30.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 01:07 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

> > Don't run through the wizard either way, it may have unpredictable
> > results. Once you've tested, reboot to runlevel 3 (add '3' as a kernel
> > parameter), quit out of the system-config menu thing that loads up, log
> > in as root, and change /etc/sysconfig/firstboot back to NO and disable
> > the firstboot service.
> >
> > thanks!
> 
>   sorry for the delay -- yes, that solves my issue, i can now see the
> entire screen in firstboot.  and i ran thru firstboot in its entirety
> since this is just a test system and there's nothing worth saving.
> so, from the perspective of just being able to see the entire screen,
> it looks good.

Great, I was worried it wouldn't work in the case the second display
doesn't exist at all, glad to know it does! The fix won't make the beta,
unfortunately, but will make final.

>   OTOH, xdpyinfo still thinks i have a 2080x800 display but we already
> know that's a different issue.

Yup.

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From P.Glassenbury at cosc.canterbury.ac.nz  Thu Oct 15 05:28:54 2009
From: P.Glassenbury at cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Peter Glassenbury (CSSE))
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:28:54 +1300
Subject: F12 -hang on boot - NetworkManger problem?
In-Reply-To: <1255572955.24496.51.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>
References: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
	<1255572955.24496.51.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>
Message-ID: <4AD6B316.7030507@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>

Craig White wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 15:00 +1300, Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
>> I have F12_x86_64 installed from alpha ISO and kept up to date
>> with a yum update. (running on a intel core2-duo)
>>
>> I am always getting a hang on boot at the stage of..
>>        Starting system message bus.
>>
>> It waits at this point for just over 10 minutes, then
>> continues through normally to runlevel 5.
>>
>> Errors in /var/log/messages say
>>
>> nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ......can't contact LDAP server
>>
>> It repeats  this many times while starting the dbus-daemon and eventually times out.
>> It repeats  the error through automountd and rpc.statd
>> and then finally NetworkManager runs again and starts the network
>>
>>
>> Where should I report this as a bug? and against what...
>> Network manager for not getting its act together earlier or
>> general init.d boot script order..??
>>
>> In an F10 install we had to remove NetworkManager to get a
>> working system.
>> Currently I'm testing F11 and F12alpha and F11 works fine.
>> (on the same hardware machines)
>>
>> Any help or pointers on what to report greatly received.
> ----
> add the following to /etc/ldap.conf
> 
> nss_initgroups_ignoreusers root, ldap, dbus, named
> timelimit 30
> bind_timelimit 30
> bind_policy soft
> 
> you might want to add other daemon 'users' from /etc/passwd the the
> 'ignoreusers' line too.

I just have the default ldap settings except for the ldap server config..
The timelimits default to 120
the bind_policy has been changed to soft as you said.
This is the default ignore users line....
nss_initgroups_ignoreusers 
root,ldap,named,avahi,haldaemon,dbus,radvd,tomcat,radiusd,news,mailman,nscd,gdm,polkituser

In /etc/nsswitch we set automount,aliases,services,netgroup,
protocols,group,shadow,passwd to "files ldap" and hosts to
"files dns" and the rest to "files"

The above change to bind_policy and shortening the timelimits
has no hang.. Gives the following ERROR (in red on startup)
but then continues on and appears to come up OK and in reasonable
time.
Starting NFS daemon: rpc.nfsd: unable to resolve ANYADDR: nfs to inet address: Name or service not known

So the workaround works -- is it a bug to be reported?
Pete
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From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Thu Oct 15 07:26:24 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:26:24 +1100
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <1255582017.2314.29.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
	<1255564027.3049.143.camel@moose.localdomain>
	<1255565607.2314.16.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255578606.3049.156.camel@moose.localdomain>
	<1255582017.2314.29.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1255591584.3049.165.camel@moose.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:46 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> I'm not sure why you'd have got that impression. ATI is getting a lot
> better recently, but it's still not really on a level with Intel as far
> as free driver support goes, or NVIDIA as far as proprietary driver
> support goes.

Adam

Ah, maybe I'm being a little over grumpy. If that's what Fedora is doing
for X then I'm very impressed and more than a little in awe as to the
contributions made to X by Fedora and Redhat.

It's easy to put on rose tinted glasses and as I've had nothing but
issues with my ATI card, it's really easy to think that ATI support
really sucks and that no-one is doing anything about it.  So if I'm
sounding a little glum, it's possibly slanted by my less than stellar
experiences.

Here's hoping my X issues will be addressed soon, so I can get on with
testing.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.


Rodd



From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 08:00:41 2009
From: gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com (Gianluca Cecchi)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:00:41 +0200
Subject: kmplayer but not mplayer???
Message-ID: <561c252c0910150100i2364daa2n14d5445946e25858@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
mplayer is in rpmfusion while its front-end kmplayer is in F11 repo  ...
what is the sense?
In F12 beta it seems the same thing.
Any particular reason for not having mplayer in Fedora itself?
It seems not due to license, as on its home page:

MPlayer is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the
terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software
Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later
version.
Also, this for rpmfusion mantainers or Fedora if mplayer will be included:
as libvdpau is now in fedora, could mplayer be directly compiled for its
support so that we happy users of nvidia cards have no need to recompile an
own version of mplayer?
In F11 with "mplayer -vo help" I cannot see it....

Thanks in advance,
Gianluca
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From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 08:07:11 2009
From: gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com (Gianluca Cecchi)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:07:11 +0200
Subject: Clock preference doesn't update temperature unit
Message-ID: <561c252c0910150107h70500e23l9405c6d123721e1@mail.gmail.com>

Installed rawhide pre-beta in English so I don't know if now it is solved.
But after updating to current rawhide, I decided to change
clock/calendar/weather settings, now I see them in a unique button at top
right.

I successfully and dinamically changed location from Boston to Italy; time
(as the location stepped back the clock by 6 hours); time format, but not
unit of measure for temperature.
Even if I changed form F to C or other ones, it remains in Fahrenheit...
(this is true for both the letter and the numeric value... as 43 Celsius
seems to high now in Milan ;-)

Against what to bugzilla eventually?

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From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Thu Oct 15 08:50:53 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:50:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: some erroneous /etc/sysctl.conf entries
Message-ID: 


  after adding a new entry to /etc/sysctl.conf and running
"sysctl -p", i get:

error: "net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-ip6tables" is an unknown key
error: "net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-iptables" is an unknown key
error: "net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-arptables" is an unknown key
net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter = 1
net.ipv4.conf.default.accept_source_route = 0
kernel.sysrq = 0
kernel.core_uses_pid = 1
vm.mmap_min_addr = 0

  i refer, of course, to the listed unknown keys.  should i care?

rday
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From markmc at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 08:57:59 2009
From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:57:59 +0100
Subject: some erroneous /etc/sysctl.conf entries
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1255597079.2726.41.camel@blaa>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 04:50 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> after adding a new entry to /etc/sysctl.conf and running
> "sysctl -p", i get:
> 
> error: "net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-ip6tables" is an unknown key
> error: "net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-iptables" is an unknown key
> error: "net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-arptables" is an unknown key

Gah. This is because you don't have the bridge module loaded.

It's nothing to worry about, but it'd be sure nice to avoid these
warnings if we can.

See also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/512206

Cheers,
Mark.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Thu Oct 15 09:05:30 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:05:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: some erroneous /etc/sysctl.conf entries
In-Reply-To: <1255597079.2726.41.camel@blaa>
References: 
	<1255597079.2726.41.camel@blaa>
Message-ID: 

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Mark McLoughlin wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 04:50 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > after adding a new entry to /etc/sysctl.conf and running
> > "sysctl -p", i get:
> >
> > error: "net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-ip6tables" is an unknown key
> > error: "net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-iptables" is an unknown key
> > error: "net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-arptables" is an unknown key
>
> Gah. This is because you don't have the bridge module loaded.
>
> It's nothing to worry about, but it'd be sure nice to avoid these
> warnings if we can.
>
> See also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/512206

  i didn't figure it was serious, i just thought i'd point it out.

rday
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From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl  Thu Oct 15 09:51:21 2009
From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:51:21 +0200
Subject: kmplayer but not mplayer???
In-Reply-To: <561c252c0910150100i2364daa2n14d5445946e25858@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0910150100i2364daa2n14d5445946e25858@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091015095121.GC2163@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:00:41AM +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> Hello,
> mplayer is in rpmfusion while its front-end kmplayer is in F11 repo  ...
> what is the sense?
> In F12 beta it seems the same thing.
> Any particular reason for not having mplayer in Fedora itself?
> It seems not due to license, as on its home page:
> 
> MPlayer is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the
> terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software
> Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later
> version.
> Also, this for rpmfusion mantainers or Fedora if mplayer will be included:
> as libvdpau is now in fedora, could mplayer be directly compiled for its
> support so that we happy users of nvidia cards have no need to recompile an
> own version of mplayer?
> In F11 with "mplayer -vo help" I cannot see it....

RPMFusion maintainers can be reached more easily on the RPMFusion
mailing lists. I happen to be the maintainer of MPlayer package, so
I'll answer here, too. I'm aware of all the issues, but I don't have
enough time to take care of them in a timely manner. If you (or anyone
else) would like to offer help co-maintaining, that'd be very welcome.

Regards,

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From lili at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 10:56:18 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:56:18 +0800
Subject: Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test status
Message-ID: <4AD6FFD2.7030107@redhat.com>

Hi,

     As the Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test is coming to the end,we still 
have some test cases which can not be executed,because these cases are 
related to special hardware,such as Raid on ppc platform,scsi disk 
,mdraid,etc,more details,please see test result matrix at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_Beta_RC2_Install

If you have those special hardware,please execute corresponding test 
cases and post your test results.Our testing is still in progress,for 
any tester, your test result is still valuable

The following bugs are filed or still exist during this install testing:
526789    NEW             Install didn't reboot at the end
528794    NEW             yaboot-1.3.19-20.debug does not netboot on IBM 
Power6 eclipz
505189    NEW             KeyError: 
528537    ASSIGNED        fails to get kickstart file over nfs
526925    ASSIGNED        [Back] button does not have a corresponding 
icon (like [Next] does)
528222    NEW              LiveCD intermittently gets stuck during shutdown
515905    NEW              Boot F-12-Alpha CD using kickstart with nfs 
repository fails
528537    ASSIGNED         fails to get kickstart file over nfs.
528789    CLOSED RAWHIDE   Checking "[ ] Hide RAID device/volume group 
members" has no affect
526745    NEW              <3>Out of memory: kill process 262 (anaconda) 
score 3089 or a child
526975    MODIFIED         AttributeError: 'LVMPhysicalVolume' object 
has no attribute 'mapName'
526021    ASSIGNED         f12 beta failed to boot on ppc platform after 
autopart and encrypted installation
517491    ASSIGNED         Anaconda fails if filesystem should be shrunk
529170    NEW              anaconda did not prompt to save log after an 
error occurred
528815    NEW              RAID1 '/' and Noswap results in - parent 
device does not exist
528819    NEW              FSError: filesystem has not been created
528497    MODIFIED         FirstAidKit does not start when using 
F-12-Beta rescue mode from disc1.iso
516206    CLOSED RAWHIDE   Traceback debug mode fails on ppc64 - 
SystemError: (22, 'Invalid argument')
505959    ASSIGNED         anaconda acting up
526208    MODIFIED         preupgrade failed from old release(f10, f11)
529178    NEW              Traceback debug mode fails - black screen 
only with a mouse

Thanks
Liam



From craigwhite at azapple.com  Thu Oct 15 11:57:15 2009
From: craigwhite at azapple.com (Craig White)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:57:15 -0700
Subject: F12 -hang on boot - NetworkManger problem?
In-Reply-To: <4AD6B316.7030507@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
References: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
	<1255572955.24496.51.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>
	<4AD6B316.7030507@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <1255607835.24496.63.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 18:28 +1300, Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
> The above change to bind_policy and shortening the timelimits
> has no hang.. Gives the following ERROR (in red on startup)
> but then continues on and appears to come up OK and in reasonable
> time.
> Starting NFS daemon: rpc.nfsd: unable to resolve ANYADDR: nfs to inet
> address: Name or service not known
> 
> So the workaround works -- is it a bug to be reported?
> Pete
----
possibly is a bug worth reporting but I think it's easily fixed.

If you open system-config-network, select your primary NIC and choose
'Edit' you can uncheck the box called 'Controlled by NetworkManager' and
check the box 'Activate device when computer starts'

At that point, you run the commands...

chkconfig NetworkManager off
chkconfig network on

and you should be good at next bootup.

If you prefer not using GUI tools, the file we are editing is likely

/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

and the values we are changing...

ONBOOT=yes
NM_CONTROLLED=no

Craig


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From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Thu Oct 15 12:05:40 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:05:40 -0400
Subject: F12 -hang on boot - NetworkManger problem?
In-Reply-To: <4AD6B316.7030507@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
References: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
	<1255572955.24496.51.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>
	<4AD6B316.7030507@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <20091015120540.GA18310@mail.scottro.net>

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 06:28:54PM +1300, Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
>
> So the workaround works -- is it a bug to be reported?
> Pete

As I mentioned, it was reported 5 years ago.  :)

So, it's a known issue. 

You could try to reopen it--I *think* it was reported against RH, but
the problem exists in Fedora and CentOS clients. 
Hrrm, I have to throw Ubuntu or something on a VM and see if it is a
problem for them too.

As mentioned, I couldn't find the bug with a quick search, but it
definitely is there. 


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are. 



From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Thu Oct 15 12:33:57 2009
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:33:57 -0500
Subject: kmplayer but not mplayer???
References: <561c252c0910150100i2364daa2n14d5445946e25858@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Gianluca Cecchi wrote:

> mplayer is in rpmfusion while its front-end kmplayer is in F11 repo  ...
> what is the sense?

kmplayer can use either phonon or mplayer for playback (and is configued to 
use phonon by default).

-- Rex



From andre at bwh.harvard.edu  Thu Oct 15 12:50:02 2009
From: andre at bwh.harvard.edu (Andre Robatino)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:50:02 -0400
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
Message-ID: <4AD71A7A.3080100@bwh.harvard.edu>

The live 12-Beta-RC2 images use shorter names like
F12-Beta-i686-Live.iso instead of longer names like
Fedora-12-Beta-i686-Live.iso as in the install images.  The live F11
images use the longer names, the live F10 images use the shorter names,
the live F9 images use the longer names.  Any reason for the switching?

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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 15 13:04:03 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:04:03 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091015 changes
Message-ID: <20091015130403.GA7397@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Thu Oct 15 06:15:06 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json



Broken deps for x86_64
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	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.x86_64 requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.ppc64 requires python-json



Updated Packages:

anaconda-12.38-1.fc12
---------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 David Cantrell  - 12.38-1
- Remove extra echo in 'make rpmlog'. (dcantrell)
- Do not traceback if network device doesn't have HwAddress property
  (#506013). (rvykydal)
- Fix liveinst to (1) not unmount /dev/pts, (2) unmount in order (509632).
  (clumens)
- Do not read DASD data from /tmp/install.cfg in booty (#526354). (dcantrell)
- Fix task selection when tasks contain the same group. (#528193) (notting)
- Update drivelist with bootloader --driveorder ks option instead of
  replacing it (#506073). (rvykydal)
- Use ID_SERIAL to write multipath.conf, but ID_SERIAL_SHORT for UI. (pjones)
- Handle Installation Repo (base repo) as any other in repo edit UI.
  (rvykydal)
- Fix methodstr editing dialog. (rvykydal)
- Store methodstr url of repo (#502208, #526022). (rvykydal)
- Show user of which repository he edits the url (methodstr editing).
  (rvykydal)
- Don't traceback with malformed repo= nfs: parameter. (rvykydal)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 1



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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:03:25 -0700 (PDT)
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From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Thu Oct 15 14:18:53 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:18:53 -0400
Subject: Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test status
In-Reply-To: <4AD6FFD2.7030107@redhat.com>
References: <4AD6FFD2.7030107@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4AD72F4D.1050108@cox.net>

On 10/15/2009 06:56 AM, Liam wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 
>
> If you have those special hardware,please execute corresponding test
> cases and post your test results.Our testing is still in progress,for
> any tester, your test result is still valuable
>
> 
> Thanks
> Liam
>

I couldn't see where this fit in to the test matrix,  Bug 525798 -  x 
server failing during custom layout.  The bz has been reassigned outside 
of anaconda, but the modesetting for an RV630 is only a problem with 
anaconda and not with an installed system.  I have to put nomodeset on 
the kernel cmd line to prevent this bug, but not on the resulting 
installed system.  I have reported this condition two different times 
and each time I am asked for the logs, even tho the bz states that the 
system is dead and I can't get the logs.  To add spice, if I very 
carefully avoid mouse wheel movements when not specifying nomodeset, I 
can *sometimes* avoid the lockup.



From kdekorte at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 14:24:16 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0600
Subject: Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test status
In-Reply-To: <4AD72F4D.1050108@cox.net>
References: <4AD6FFD2.7030107@redhat.com> <4AD72F4D.1050108@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4AD73090.6040707@gmail.com>

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On 10/15/09 08:18, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 10/15/2009 06:56 AM, Liam wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 
>>
>> If you have those special hardware,please execute corresponding test
>> cases and post your test results.Our testing is still in progress,for
>> any tester, your test result is still valuable
>>
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Liam
>>
> 
> I couldn't see where this fit in to the test matrix,  Bug 525798 -  x
> server failing during custom layout.  The bz has been reassigned outside
> of anaconda, but the modesetting for an RV630 is only a problem with
> anaconda and not with an installed system.  I have to put nomodeset on
> the kernel cmd line to prevent this bug, but not on the resulting
> installed system.  I have reported this condition two different times
> and each time I am asked for the logs, even tho the bz states that the
> system is dead and I can't get the logs.  To add spice, if I very
> carefully avoid mouse wheel movements when not specifying nomodeset, I
> can *sometimes* avoid the lockup.
> 

Clyde,

If you add pcie_aspm=off to the kernel line, can you boot and work the
machine _without_ specifying nomodeset. On my machine, I would get
lockups in KMS mode within minutes of booting the machine. I worked with
Dave Airlied and we found that this option helped on my machine, so I am
trying to see how many people are affected by this.

pcie_aspm is a power management control that is enabled by an Fedora
kernel patch.

Kevin

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From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 15:30:19 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:30:19 -0700
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <1255591584.3049.165.camel@moose.localdomain>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
	<1255564027.3049.143.camel@moose.localdomain>
	<1255565607.2314.16.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255578606.3049.156.camel@moose.localdomain>
	<1255582017.2314.29.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255591584.3049.165.camel@moose.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1255620619.2314.35.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 18:26 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:46 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > I'm not sure why you'd have got that impression. ATI is getting a lot
> > better recently, but it's still not really on a level with Intel as far
> > as free driver support goes, or NVIDIA as far as proprietary driver
> > support goes.
> 
> Adam
> 
> Ah, maybe I'm being a little over grumpy. If that's what Fedora is doing
> for X then I'm very impressed and more than a little in awe as to the
> contributions made to X by Fedora and Redhat.
> 
> It's easy to put on rose tinted glasses and as I've had nothing but
> issues with my ATI card, it's really easy to think that ATI support
> really sucks and that no-one is doing anything about it.  So if I'm
> sounding a little glum, it's possibly slanted by my less than stellar
> experiences.
> 
> Here's hoping my X issues will be addressed soon, so I can get on with
> testing.
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to respond.

No problem. I understand how you feel - I get frustrated when my
hardware's broken too. For the record, RH employs two radeon developers,
Dave Airlie and Jerome Glisse, who both contribute actively to upstream
development of the driver and to maintaining it in Fedora (though Dave
is doing an increasing amount of work on the X server side, which I
think is partly why we brought Jerome in).

I'm going to have another look at your bug(s) and see if there's
anything we can look at that we didn't already...

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 15:32:18 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:32:18 -0700
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test
In-Reply-To: <4AD71A7A.3080100@bwh.harvard.edu>
References: <4AD71A7A.3080100@bwh.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <1255620738.2894.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 08:50 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
> The live 12-Beta-RC2 images use shorter names like
> F12-Beta-i686-Live.iso instead of longer names like
> Fedora-12-Beta-i686-Live.iso as in the install images.  The live F11
> images use the longer names, the live F10 images use the shorter
> names,
> the live F9 images use the longer names.  Any reason for the
> switching?
> 

Live image creation tools use the iso name as the isofs label, and that
label has a hard limit of 32 chars.  Some of our spin names have rather
long names, so I have to truncate something somewhere.  It gets
particularly bad when doing a snapshot or beta release as the term
"Beta" or "Snap#" gets added to the string.  Usually there is enough
string length for final releases to expand F12 to Fedora-12 simply
because the "Beta" or "Snap#" is no longer necessary.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 15:36:20 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:36:20 -0700
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <1255591584.3049.165.camel@moose.localdomain>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
	<1255564027.3049.143.camel@moose.localdomain>
	<1255565607.2314.16.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255578606.3049.156.camel@moose.localdomain>
	<1255582017.2314.29.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255591584.3049.165.camel@moose.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1255620980.2314.40.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 18:26 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:

> Here's hoping my X issues will be addressed soon, so I can get on with
> testing.

BTW, on the triage topic - we (Fedora this time :>) used to have
Francois Cami in the Bugzappers, who more or less exclusively worked on
triaging radeon bugs, which was a great help. Unfortunately he hasn't
been able to do much on Fedora for a while due to other commitments.
Nevertheless, it looks like your latest bug -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528593 - got picked up for
triaging by Matej two days after being filed, which is pretty quick, I'd
say.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Thu Oct 15 15:35:09 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:35:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta?
Message-ID: 


  almost certainly about to embarrass myself, but what's the latest
install pre-release for f12?  this site:

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

clearly points you at alpha, while this one:

http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD/

refers to beta RC2.  so what's the state of releases right now?

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 15:38:30 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:38:30 -0700
Subject: kmplayer but not mplayer???
In-Reply-To: <20091015095121.GC2163@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>
References: <561c252c0910150100i2364daa2n14d5445946e25858@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091015095121.GC2163@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <1255621110.2314.41.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 11:51 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:00:41AM +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> > Hello,
> > mplayer is in rpmfusion while its front-end kmplayer is in F11 repo  ...
> > what is the sense?
> > In F12 beta it seems the same thing.
> > Any particular reason for not having mplayer in Fedora itself?
> > It seems not due to license, as on its home page:
> > 
> > MPlayer is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the
> > terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software
> > Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later
> > version.
> > Also, this for rpmfusion mantainers or Fedora if mplayer will be included:
> > as libvdpau is now in fedora, could mplayer be directly compiled for its
> > support so that we happy users of nvidia cards have no need to recompile an
> > own version of mplayer?
> > In F11 with "mplayer -vo help" I cannot see it....
> 
> RPMFusion maintainers can be reached more easily on the RPMFusion
> mailing lists. I happen to be the maintainer of MPlayer package, so
> I'll answer here, too. I'm aware of all the issues, but I don't have
> enough time to take care of them in a timely manner. If you (or anyone
> else) would like to offer help co-maintaining, that'd be very welcome.

I did send you a patch to enable vdpau support. I can join as
co-maintainer and push it myself if you don't have time to do that.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl  Thu Oct 15 15:43:06 2009
From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:43:06 +0200
Subject: kmplayer but not mplayer???
In-Reply-To: <1255621110.2314.41.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <561c252c0910150100i2364daa2n14d5445946e25858@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091015095121.GC2163@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>
	<1255621110.2314.41.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20091015154306.GH2163@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 08:38:30AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 11:51 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:00:41AM +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > mplayer is in rpmfusion while its front-end kmplayer is in F11 repo  ...
> > > what is the sense?
> > > In F12 beta it seems the same thing.
> > > Any particular reason for not having mplayer in Fedora itself?
> > > It seems not due to license, as on its home page:
> > > 
> > > MPlayer is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the
> > > terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software
> > > Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later
> > > version.
> > > Also, this for rpmfusion mantainers or Fedora if mplayer will be included:
> > > as libvdpau is now in fedora, could mplayer be directly compiled for its
> > > support so that we happy users of nvidia cards have no need to recompile an
> > > own version of mplayer?
> > > In F11 with "mplayer -vo help" I cannot see it....
> > 
> > RPMFusion maintainers can be reached more easily on the RPMFusion
> > mailing lists. I happen to be the maintainer of MPlayer package, so
> > I'll answer here, too. I'm aware of all the issues, but I don't have
> > enough time to take care of them in a timely manner. If you (or anyone
> > else) would like to offer help co-maintaining, that'd be very welcome.
> 
> I did send you a patch to enable vdpau support. I can join as
> co-maintainer and push it myself if you don't have time to do that.

Yes, please do that. Thanks.

Regards,

-- 
Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski   |  LAN  Staff
Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling
University of Warsaw  |  http://www.icm.edu.pl  | tel. +48 22 5540810



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 15:44:10 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:44:10 -0700
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 11:35 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> almost certainly about to embarrass myself, but what's the latest
> install pre-release for f12?  this site:
> 
> http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease
> 
> clearly points you at alpha, while this one:
> 
> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD/
> 
> refers to beta RC2.  so what's the state of releases right now?

'beta RC2' is the second release candidate _of the beta_. in other
words, the beta isn't done yet. pre-pre-releases like this are not
'official' pre-releases, so we don't put them up on that page.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From selinux at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 16:01:23 2009
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:01:23 -0700
Subject: F12 -hang on boot - NetworkManger problem?
In-Reply-To: <20091015120540.GA18310@mail.scottro.net>
References: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
	<1255572955.24496.51.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>
	<4AD6B316.7030507@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
	<20091015120540.GA18310@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530910150901v25f37ad6rbc03f43941616b15@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Scott Robbins  wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 06:28:54PM +1300, Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
>> Craig White wrote:
>>
>> So the workaround works -- is it a bug to be reported?
>> Pete
>
> As I mentioned, it was reported 5 years ago.  :)
>
> So, it's a known issue.
>
> You could try to reopen it--I *think* it was reported against RH, but
> the problem exists in Fedora and CentOS clients.
> Hrrm, I have to throw Ubuntu or something on a VM and see if it is a
> problem for them too.
>
> As mentioned, I couldn't find the bug with a quick search, but it
> definitely is there.
>
>
> --
> Scott Robbins

Not sure its the same, but here is a (recent) BZ:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502072

Some work arounds and discussion there.  This the same?

tom
- --
Tom London


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From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Thu Oct 15 17:04:17 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:04:17 -0400
Subject: Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test status
In-Reply-To: <4AD73090.6040707@gmail.com>
References: <4AD6FFD2.7030107@redhat.com> <4AD72F4D.1050108@cox.net>
	<4AD73090.6040707@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AD75611.8030800@cox.net>

On 10/15/2009 10:24 AM, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
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>
> If you add pcie_aspm=off to the kernel line, can you boot and work the
> machine _without_ specifying nomodeset. On my machine, I would get
> lockups in KMS mode within minutes of booting the machine. I worked with
> Dave Airlied and we found that this option helped on my machine, so I am
> trying to see how many people are affected by this.
>
> pcie_aspm is a power management control that is enabled by an Fedora
> kernel patch.
>
>

Worth a try....stand by.



From schaiba at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 19:59:43 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:59:43 +0300
Subject: Clock preference doesn't update temperature unit
In-Reply-To: <561c252c0910150107h70500e23l9405c6d123721e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0910150107h70500e23l9405c6d123721e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AD77F2F.7080808@gmail.com>

Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> Installed rawhide pre-beta in English so I don't know if now it is solved.
> But after updating to current rawhide, I decided to change 
> clock/calendar/weather settings, now I see them in a unique button at 
> top right.
>
> I successfully and dinamically changed location from Boston to Italy; 
> time (as the location stepped back the clock by 6 hours); time format, 
> but not unit of measure for temperature.
> Even if I changed form F to C or other ones, it remains in 
> Fahrenheit... (this is true for both the letter and the numeric 
> value... as 43 Celsius seems to high now in Milan ;-)
>
> Against what to bugzilla eventually?
>
> Gianluca
I think gnome-weather is the name of the package. If not, a yum search 
will help you :-)



From mclasen at redhat.com  Thu Oct 15 20:00:57 2009
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:00:57 -0400
Subject: Clock preference doesn't update temperature unit
In-Reply-To: <4AD77F2F.7080808@gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0910150107h70500e23l9405c6d123721e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AD77F2F.7080808@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1255636857.31724.13.camel@planemask>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 22:59 +0300, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> > Installed rawhide pre-beta in English so I don't know if now it is solved.
> > But after updating to current rawhide, I decided to change 
> > clock/calendar/weather settings, now I see them in a unique button at 
> > top right.
> >
> > I successfully and dinamically changed location from Boston to Italy; 
> > time (as the location stepped back the clock by 6 hours); time format, 
> > but not unit of measure for temperature.
> > Even if I changed form F to C or other ones, it remains in 
> > Fahrenheit... (this is true for both the letter and the numeric 
> > value... as 43 Celsius seems to high now in Milan ;-)
> >
> > Against what to bugzilla eventually?
> >
> > Gianluca
> I think gnome-weather is the name of the package. If not, a yum search 
> will help you :-)
> 


The clock applet is part of the gnome-panel package. I'd start there,
we'll move the bug as needed...



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 15 22:42:18 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:42:18 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091015224218.8BF7310F87F@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    at-3.1.10-32.fc11
    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11
    boost-1.37.0-8.fc11
    gcl-2.6.8-0.3.20090701cvs.fc11
    gnustep-gui-0.16.0-5.fc11
    gvfs-1.2.3-13.fc11
    highlight-2.13-1.fc11
    ibus-m17n-1.2.0.20090617-4.fc11
    ibus-table-1.2.0.20091014-1.fc11
    libguestfs-1.0.73-1.fc11
    libnetdevname-0.0.3-4.fc11
    perl-Tk-ProgressBar-Mac-1.2-3.fc11
    preupgrade-1.1.2-1.fc11
    py-radix-0.5-5.fc11
    python-biopython-1.52-1.fc11
    ruby-1.8.6.369-3.fc11
    sil-padauk-fonts-2.4-6.fc11
    whaawmp-0.2.12.1-2.fc11
    xfce4-stopwatch-plugin-0.2.0-2.fc11
    yapet-0.6-2.fc11
    yum-cron-0.9.1-1.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 at-3.1.10-32.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10517)
 Job spooling tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

When upgrading the rpm overwrited existing customized settings in
/etc/sysconfig/atd.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 3.1.10-32
- 528582 add noreplace option into files section
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528582 - rpm install overwrites sysconfig settings
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528582
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10534)
 DNSKEY trust anchor update utility that uses RFC-5011
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Trust anchors were reset to valid upon writing trusted-keys, Minor config file
changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Paul Wouters  - 0.3.1-1
- Updated to autotrust 0.3.1
- Try restarting running nameservers from the autotrust cron job
- Use the "named" version generated by dnssec-configure as trust anchor includes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 boost-1.37.0-8.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10528)
 The Boost C++ Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Petr Machata  - 1.37.0-8
- GCC 4.4 name resolution fixes for GIL
- Resolves: #526834
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526834 - boost:gil library breaks with gcc 4.4.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526834
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gcl-2.6.8-0.3.20090701cvs.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10516)
 GNU Common Lisp
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update adds SELinux policy for maxima images, and fixes some issues with
.iplt sections that arise when compiling open-axiom.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Jerry James  - 2.6.8-0.3.20090701cvs
- Update SELinux files to give compiled maxima files the right context
- Update to 20090701 CVS snapshot, fixes bz 511483
- Break fix for  out into a separate patch and do it right
- Add -plt patch to fix reading of PLT info
- Add -ellipsis patch to eliminate nondeterministic behavior
- Minor spec file cleanups
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnustep-gui-0.16.0-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10514)
 The GNUstep GUI library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* GNUstep GUI library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gvfs-1.2.3-13.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10532)
 Backends for the gio framework in GLib
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes crasher when uploading files fails
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Bastien Nocera  1.2.3-13
- Fix ObexFTP push crasher (#528181)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528181 - [abrt] crash detected in gvfs-obexftp-1.4.0-3.fc12
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528181
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 highlight-2.13-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10512)
 Universal source code to formatted text converter
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Fix SVG output    * Add icon in the GuI
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Jochen Schmitt  2.13-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-m17n-1.2.0.20090617-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10508)
 The M17N engine for IBus platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Enable iok
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Peng Huang  - 1.2.0.20090617-4
- Update iok patch to fix build error.
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Parag  - 1.2.0.20090617-3
- Re-enable iok support to ibus-m17n.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-1.2.0.20091014-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10544)
 The Table engine for IBus platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Rollback because of regression of last update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.2.0.20091014-1.fc11
- Regression of crashing. Rollback to 1.2.0.20090912.
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.2.0.20090912-2.fc11
- IBus #564 - Fixed parsing equal sign.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libguestfs-1.0.73-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10511)
 Access and modify virtual machine disk images
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release 1.0.73, mainly a bugfix and stability release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.0.73-1
- New upstream release 1.0.73.
- OCaml library now depends on xml-light.
- Deal with installed documentation.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526917 - ocaml/examples/lvs test script link error
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526917
  [ 2 ] Bug #526717 - virt-inspector fails: No grub default specified at [...]
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526717
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libnetdevname-0.0.3-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10505)
 A library that provides network name mappings
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This library package provides interface for mapping network path names to kernel
names.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Tk-ProgressBar-Mac-1.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10515)
 Mac ProgressBar for Perl::Tk
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This widget provides a dynamic image that looks just like a Mac OS 9 progress
bar.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501957 - Review Request: perl-Tk--ProgressBar-Mac - Mac ProgressBar for Perl::Tk
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501957
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 preupgrade-1.1.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10523)
 Prepares a system for an upgrade
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes hang after hitting Apply button
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Will Woods  - 1.1.2-1
- Proper fix for bug 526208
- Require gtk2 >= 2.16.6
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Seth Vidal  - 1.1.1-2
- require yum 3.2.24
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Will Woods  - 1.1.1-1
- Fix UI hang on upgrades from F11 (bug 526208)
- Fix unhandled traceback in preupgrade.dev (bug 504826)
- Give preupgrade its own User-Agent string
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.1.0-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526208 - preupgrade failed from old release(f10, f11)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526208
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 py-radix-0.5-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10526)
 Radix tree data structure for Python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of the python library implementing a Radix tree data structure,
which is often used in network routing algorithms.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526738 - Review Request: py-radix - Radix tree data structure for Python
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526738
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-biopython-1.52-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10527)
 Python tools for computational molecular biology
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream (1.52). This release provides some enhancements for
population genetics, including a module for obtaining F-statistics via GenePop.
For more details see: http://news.open-bio.org/news/2009/09/biopython-
release-152/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 1.52-1
- Update to latest upstream (1.52)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528658 - RFE: Upgrade python-biopython to 1.52
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528658
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ruby-1.8.6.369-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10537)
 An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Currently ri command cannot detect ri manual files installed via Gem (based
Fedora rpms). This new rpm will fix this issue.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 1.8.6.369-3
- Much better idea for Patch31 provided by Akira TAGOH 
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 1.8.6.369-2
- Fix the search path of ri command for ri manuals installed with gem
  (bug 528787)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528787 - ri doesn't search manuals installed by gem
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528787
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sil-padauk-fonts-2.4-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10522)
 A font for Burmese and the Myanmar script
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Padauk is a Myanmar font covering all currently used characters  in the Myanmar
block. The font aims to cover all minority language needs.  At the moment, these
do not extend to stylistic variation needs.  The font is a smart font using a
Graphite description.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #514911 - Review Request: sil-padauk-fonts - Padauk font for Burmese and the Myanmar script
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514911
  [ 2 ] Bug #477436 - [padauk-fonts] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477436
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 whaawmp-0.2.12.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10506)
 Lightweight Media Player
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Whaaw! Media Player is a lightweight media player that supports fullscreen mode,
seeking, changing video colour settings and more. It will play any audio or
video files that GStreamer can play. It is intended to be a basic media player
without any GNOME dependencies.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #513420 - Review Request: whaawmp - Lightweight Media Player
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513420
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xfce4-stopwatch-plugin-0.2.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10533)
 Stopwatch plugin for the Xfce panel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The xfce-stopwatch-plugin is a panel plugin to keep track of elapsed time. There
are no ways to configure the plugin at this time, just add it to the panel. The
time elapsed will be saved when your panel quits and restored next time it?s
running. If time was ticking, it will not start ticking again automatically.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #514351 - Review Request: xfce4-stopwatch-plugin - Stopwatch plugin for the Xfce panel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514351
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yapet-0.6-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10545)
 Curses based password encryption tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Curses based password encryption tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528290 - Review Request: yapet - Curses based password encryption tool
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528290
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yum-cron-0.9.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10541)
 Files needed to run yum updates as a cron job
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Tweaks before pushing to stable, still addresses bugs 445894, 526452, 524461
- Fixed CLEANDAY default in script  - changed the /etc/yum/ scripts to not be
marked as a config file in the .spec - we always want them updated, they're code
not config.  rpmlint used to complain about them not being marked as config
files, but seems to have grown out of this weirdness in the meantime .
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Alec Habig  - 0.9.1-1
- Fixed CLEANDAY default in script
- changed the /etc/yum/ scripts to not be marked as a config file in
  the .spec - we always want them updated, they're code not config.  
  rpmlint used to complain about them not being marked as config files,
  but seems to have grown out of this weirdness in the meantime .
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Alec Habig  - 0.9.0-1
- Change cron file to 0yum.cron, so yum updates things before the other daily jobs
  such as makewhatis, prelink, updatedb, etc run.  That way updated files get picked up
  properly.  Cost - those jobs will run later.  Resolves bug 445894.  Changed default
  random delay to 60 minutes from 120 to reduce the cost.
- Eliminate the weekly package cleaning script.  Replace with logic in the daily script 
  to clean the packages and the metadata once per week (otherwise corrupted metadata messes 
  things up indefinitely).  Resolves bug 526452.  Removal of seperate weekly script resolves
  bug 524461. 
- Use find to clear stale locks at start of run, so add findutils req.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #445894 - yum.cron should run earlier
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445894
  [ 2 ] Bug #526452 - yum-cron does not work if metadata database is broken
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526452
  [ 3 ] Bug #524461 - 2 runs of yum-cron in parralel, lock failed
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524461
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 15 22:42:18 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:42:18 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091015224218.9146E10F889@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    audacity-1.3.9-0.3.beta.fc10
    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc10
    gnustep-gui-0.16.0-5.fc10
    highlight-2.13-1.fc10
    libnetdevname-0.0.3-4.fc10
    ncl-5.1.1-1.fc10
    perl-Tk-ProgressBar-Mac-1.2-3.fc10
    py-radix-0.5-5.fc10
    python-biopython-1.52-1.fc10
    whaawmp-0.2.12.1-2.fc10
    yapet-0.6-2.fc10
    yum-cron-0.9.1-1.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 audacity-1.3.9-0.3.beta.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10538)
 Multitrack audio editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is an upgrade from Audacity 1.3.7-beta to 1.3.9-beta.    Please notice the
long list of changes and known issues in the included README.txt file and help
with testing Audacity on the road to version 2.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 14 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.3.9-0.3.beta
- add patch to fix LabelTrack popup
* Sat Sep 12 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.3.9-0.2.beta
- add wxGTK work-around patches to fix LabelTrack crash
  (shall fix #520917 and similar race-conditions)
* Thu Sep  3 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.3.9-0.1.beta
- upgrade to 1.3.9-beta
- upstream's changes in the device prefs code make the audiodevdefaults
  patch unnecessary afaic see
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.8-0.3.beta
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Jul 20 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.3.8-0.2.beta
- glib2 2.21.1's gio in Rawhide F-12 introduces a GSocket that
  conflicts with wxGTK's GSocket class (gsocket.h): as a work-around,
  include less glib headers
* Mon Jul 20 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.3.8-0.1.beta
- upgrade to 1.3.8-beta
- BR taglib-devel
- patches merged/obsoleted upstream:
  audacity-1.3.7-portaudio-non-mmap-alsa.patch
  audacity-1.3.7-repeat.patch
  audacity-1.3.6-flac-import.patch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10504)
 DNSKEY trust anchor update utility that uses RFC-5011
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Trust anchors were reset to valid upon writing trusted-keys, Minor config file
changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Paul Wouters  - 0.3.1-1
- Updated to autotrust 0.3.1
- Try restarting running nameservers from the autotrust cron job
- Use the "named" version generated by dnssec-configure as trust anchor includes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnustep-gui-0.16.0-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10531)
 The GNUstep GUI library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* GNUstep GUI libary
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 highlight-2.13-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10543)
 Universal source code to formatted text converter
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* fix SVG output    * Add icon in the GUI
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Jochen Schmitt  2.13-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libnetdevname-0.0.3-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10513)
 A library that provides network name mappings
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This library package provides interface for mapping network path names to kernel
names.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ncl-5.1.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10507)
 NCAR Command Language and NCAR Graphics
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 5.1.1, which has:    * New functions  * Support for shapefiles and
other geospatial data formats - (beta test version)  * New and updated resources
* Change to the procedure for updating GRIB 1 parameter tables  * New and
updated ECMWF GRIB 1 parameter tables  * "addfile" bugs fixed  * Bugs fixed  *
"shea_util.ncl" has new dependency  * Changes to WRAPIT  * Deprecated functions
For details, see http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/new_release.shtml Fixup more paths in
shipped ncl scripts (bug #505240)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Jul 13 2009 - Orion Poplawski  - 5.1.1-1
- Update to 5.1.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528111 - upgrade ncl on fedora 10?
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528111
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Tk-ProgressBar-Mac-1.2-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10542)
 Mac ProgressBar for Perl::Tk
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This widget provides a dynamic image that looks just like a Mac OS9 progress
bar.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #501957 - Review Request: perl-Tk--ProgressBar-Mac - Mac ProgressBar for Perl::Tk
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501957
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 py-radix-0.5-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10521)
 Radix tree data structure for Python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of the python library implementing a Radix tree data structure,
which is often used in network routing algorithms.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526738 - Review Request: py-radix - Radix tree data structure for Python
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526738
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-biopython-1.52-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10540)
 Python tools for computational molecular biology
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream (1.52). This release provides some enhancements for
population genetics, including a module for obtaining F-statistics via GenePop.
For more details see: http://news.open-bio.org/news/2009/09/biopython-
release-152/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 1.52-1
- Update to latest upstream (1.52)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528658 - RFE: Upgrade python-biopython to 1.52
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528658
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 whaawmp-0.2.12.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10535)
 Lightweight Media Player
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Whaaw! Media Player is a lightweight media player that supports fullscreen mode,
seeking, changing video colour settings and more. It will play any audio or
video files that GStreamer can play. It is intended to be a basic media player
without any GNOME dependencies.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #513420 - Review Request: whaawmp - Lightweight Media Player
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513420
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yapet-0.6-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10524)
 Curses based password encryption tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Curses based password encryption tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528290 - Review Request: yapet - Curses based password encryption tool
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528290
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yum-cron-0.9.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10519)
 Files needed to run yum updates as a cron job
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Tweaks before pushing to stable, still addresses bugs 445894, 526452, 524461
- Fixed CLEANDAY default in script  - changed the /etc/yum/ scripts to not be
marked as a config file in the .spec - we always want them updated, they're code
not config.  rpmlint used to complain about them not being marked as config
files, but seems to have grown out of this weirdness in the meantime .
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Alec Habig  - 0.9.1-1
- Fixed CLEANDAY default in script
- changed the /etc/yum/ scripts to not be marked as a config file in
  the .spec - we always want them updated, they're code not config.  
  rpmlint used to complain about them not being marked as config files,
  but seems to have grown out of this weirdness in the meantime .
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Alec Habig  - 0.9.0-1
- Change cron file to 0yum.cron, so yum updates things before the other daily jobs
  such as makewhatis, prelink, updatedb, etc run.  That way updated files get picked up
  properly.  Cost - those jobs will run later.  Resolves bug 445894.  Changed default
  random delay to 60 minutes from 120 to reduce the cost.
- Eliminate the weekly package cleaning script.  Replace with logic in the daily script 
  to clean the packages and the metadata once per week (otherwise corrupted metadata messes 
  things up indefinitely).  Resolves bug 526452.  Removal of seperate weekly script resolves
  bug 524461. 
- Use find to clear stale locks at start of run, so add findutils req.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #445894 - yum.cron should run earlier
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445894
  [ 2 ] Bug #526452 - yum-cron does not work if metadata database is broken
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526452
  [ 3 ] Bug #524461 - 2 runs of yum-cron in parralel, lock failed
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524461
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From P.Glassenbury at cosc.canterbury.ac.nz  Fri Oct 16 01:52:38 2009
From: P.Glassenbury at cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Peter Glassenbury (CSSE))
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:52:38 +1300
Subject: F12 -hang on boot - NetworkManger problem?
In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530910150901v25f37ad6rbc03f43941616b15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
	<1255572955.24496.51.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>
	<4AD6B316.7030507@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
	<20091015120540.GA18310@mail.scottro.net>
	<4c4ba1530910150901v25f37ad6rbc03f43941616b15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AD7D1E6.80804@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>

Tom London wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Scott Robbins  wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 06:28:54PM +1300, Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
>>> Craig White wrote:
>>>
>>> So the workaround works -- is it a bug to be reported?
>>> Pete
>> As I mentioned, it was reported 5 years ago.  :)
>> So, it's a known issue.
>> You could try to reopen it--I *think* it was reported against RH, but
>> the problem exists in Fedora and CentOS clients.
>>
>> As mentioned, I couldn't find the bug with a quick search, but it
>> definitely is there.
>> --
>> Scott Robbins
> 
> Not sure its the same, but here is a (recent) BZ:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502072
> 
> Some work arounds and discussion there.  This the same?

Yes, This is the same bug. I was coming from a different
symptom (the hang in dbus) and the bug reports the ldap
error I had in /var/log/messages.
It still appears to be alive so I added a comment saying also
in F12rawhide (Is there another way to say that it is in multiple
versions)

Pete
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Glassenbury			Computer Science department
pete at cosc.canterbury.ac.nz		University of Canterbury
+64 3 3642987 ext 7762			New Zealand



From lili at redhat.com  Fri Oct 16 02:51:24 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:51:24 +0800
Subject: Fedora12 Beta RC2 install test status
In-Reply-To: <4AD72F4D.1050108@cox.net>
References: <4AD6FFD2.7030107@redhat.com> <4AD72F4D.1050108@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4AD7DFAC.9000501@redhat.com>


>
> I couldn't see where this fit in to the test matrix, Bug 525798 - x
> server failing during custom layout. The bz has been reassigned outside
> of anaconda, but the modesetting for an RV630 is only a problem with
> anaconda and not with an installed system. I have to put nomodeset on
> the kernel cmd line to prevent this bug, but not on the resulting
> installed system. I have reported this condition two different times and
> each time I am asked for the logs, even tho the bz states that the
> system is dead and I can't get the logs. To add spice, if I very
> carefully avoid mouse wheel movements when not specifying nomodeset, I
> can *sometimes* avoid the lockup.

Thanks for the report.If you don't mind, I have added your bug to test 
matrix,please feel free to add your result next time,we will never mind 
where the testers put their result. :)

Liam



From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Fri Oct 16 06:20:20 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:20:20 +1100
Subject: F12 comments and questions
In-Reply-To: <1255620980.2314.40.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <200910141858.26485.gene@czarc.net>
	<1255564027.3049.143.camel@moose.localdomain>
	<1255565607.2314.16.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255578606.3049.156.camel@moose.localdomain>
	<1255582017.2314.29.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1255591584.3049.165.camel@moose.localdomain>
	<1255620980.2314.40.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1255674020.2527.4.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 08:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 18:26 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> 
> > Here's hoping my X issues will be addressed soon, so I can get on with
> > testing.

Just for clarity, I didn't mean by this that they weren't being
"addressed".  I guess I was saying, here's hoping they are resolved
soon.

> BTW, on the triage topic - we (Fedora this time :>) used to have
> Francois Cami in the Bugzappers, who more or less exclusively worked on
> triaging radeon bugs, which was a great help. Unfortunately he hasn't
> been able to do much on Fedora for a while due to other commitments.
> Nevertheless, it looks like your latest bug -
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528593 - got picked up for
> triaging by Matej two days after being filed, which is pretty quick, I'd
> say.

And yes, while I have had a couple of bugs of late that seemed to wallow
in bugzilla (a few bigger ones I've nagged about on the list hoping for
some action, which works some times) this particular problem was picked
up quite quickly and seems to be moving forward in an reasonable manner
(since it's kind of a huge stumbling block for me).

I should take a moment to thank you for your help both here, and with
this bug too.



Rodd





From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 16 06:19:50 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:49:50 +0530
Subject: F12 -hang on boot - NetworkManger problem?
In-Reply-To: <20091015120540.GA18310@mail.scottro.net>
References: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>	<1255572955.24496.51.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>	<4AD6B316.7030507@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
	<20091015120540.GA18310@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <4AD81086.2080301@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/15/2009 05:35 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 06:28:54PM +1300, Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
>> Craig White wrote:
>>
>> So the workaround works -- is it a bug to be reported?
>> Pete
> 
> As I mentioned, it was reported 5 years ago.  :)
> 
> So, it's a known issue. 
> 
> You could try to reopen it--I *think* it was reported against RH, but
> the problem exists in Fedora and CentOS clients. 
> Hrrm, I have to throw Ubuntu or something on a VM and see if it is a
> problem for them too.
> 
> As mentioned, I couldn't find the bug with a quick search, but it
> definitely is there. 

If you can't find it, please file a new bug report and pass the bug
report number to this list. Some bugs do get lost at times but we need
to fix the problem.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 16 06:24:15 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:54:15 +0530
Subject: kmplayer but not mplayer???
In-Reply-To: <561c252c0910150100i2364daa2n14d5445946e25858@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0910150100i2364daa2n14d5445946e25858@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AD8118F.3030301@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/15/2009 01:30 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> Hello,
> mplayer is in rpmfusion while its front-end kmplayer is in F11 repo 
> ...  what is the sense?
> In F12 beta it seems the same thing.
> Any particular reason for not having mplayer in Fedora itself?
> It seems not due to license, as on its home page:
> 
> MPlayer is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under
> the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
> Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your
> option) any later version.

It is not due to the license. It is due software patents.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Software_Patents

Rahul



From erikina at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 09:44:52 2009
From: erikina at gmail.com (Eric Springer)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:44:52 +1000
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta?
In-Reply-To: <1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>
References:  
	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> 'beta RC2' is the second release candidate _of the beta_. in other
> words, the beta isn't done yet. pre-pre-releases like this are not
> 'official' pre-releases, so we don't put them up on that page.

Makes sense, although I can't help feel having something like alpha ->
alpha2 ->alpha3 -> beta would be a better naming conversion, even if
"alpha" and "beta" were the only two "official" ones.



From erikina at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 09:45:44 2009
From: erikina at gmail.com (Eric Springer)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:45:44 +1000
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta?
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>
	
Message-ID: 

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Eric Springer  wrote:
> Makes sense, although I can't help feel having something like alpha ->
> alpha2 ->alpha3 -> beta would be a better naming conversion, even if
> "alpha" and "beta" were the only two "official" ones.
>

convention* not conversion



From mschwendt at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 09:47:23 2009
From: mschwendt at gmail.com (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:47:23 -0000
Subject: Broken dependencies with Fedora 11 updates-testing - 2009-10-16
Message-ID: <20091016094723.4381.49814@faldor.intranet>

======================================================================
The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
======================================================================

Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name):

    asterisk
    autotrust
    fedora-business-cards
    ibus-table
    libsvm
    oorexx
    openmpi
    R-RScaLAPACK
    sunbird




======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-i386:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.i586  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.i586  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc64:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc64  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-x86_64:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.x86_64  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexx.so.3
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexxapi.so.3
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-i386:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    thunderbird-lightning-1.0-0.7.20090715hg.fc11.i586  requires  thunderbird < 0:3.0-2.7.b5


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    thunderbird-lightning-1.0-0.7.20090715hg.fc11.ppc  requires  thunderbird < 0:3.0-2.7.b5


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc64:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    thunderbird-lightning-1.0-0.7.20090715hg.fc11.ppc64  requires  thunderbird < 0:3.0-2.7.b5


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-x86_64:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    thunderbird-lightning-1.0-0.7.20090715hg.fc11.x86_64  requires  thunderbird < 0:3.0-2.7.b5


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-i386:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.i586  requires  libunbound.so.0
    fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch  requires  inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn
    ibus-table-additional-1.2.0.20091014-1.fc11.noarch  requires  ibus-table = 0:1.2.0.20090902-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libunbound.so.0
    fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch  requires  inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn
    ibus-table-additional-1.2.0.20091014-1.fc11.noarch  requires  ibus-table = 0:1.2.0.20090902-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc64:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)
    fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch  requires  inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn
    ibus-table-additional-1.2.0.20091014-1.fc11.noarch  requires  ibus-table = 0:1.2.0.20090902-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-x86_64:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)
    fedora-business-cards-0.2.4.2-2.fc11.noarch  requires  inkscape >= 0:0.47-0.11.20090602svn
    ibus-table-additional-1.2.0.20091014-1.fc11.noarch  requires  ibus-table = 0:1.2.0.20090902-1.fc11



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Fri Oct 16 10:25:02 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:25:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>
	
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Eric Springer wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> > 'beta RC2' is the second release candidate _of the beta_. in other
> > words, the beta isn't done yet. pre-pre-releases like this are not
> > 'official' pre-releases, so we don't put them up on that page.
>
> Makes sense, although I can't help feel having something like alpha
> -> alpha2 ->alpha3 -> beta would be a better naming conversion, even
> if "alpha" and "beta" were the only two "official" ones.

  ok, that clears things up in the sense that i couldn't figure out
*where* i got that tarball Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso.  if
pre-pre-releases like that are still going to be available (even if
not officially), it might be a good idea to add the RC# part to the
tarball name itself, just to avoid confusion.

rday
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 16 11:49:54 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:49:54 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091016 changes
Message-ID: <20091016114954.GA26569@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri Oct 16 06:15:07 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.1-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.1-1.fc12.x86_64 requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.1-1.fc12.ppc requires python-json



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot
	sugar-toolkit-0.86.1-1.fc12.ppc64 requires python-json



New package mutrace
        Mutex Tracer
New package sks
        Synchronizing Key Server
New package uxlaunch
        A small and quick interface to start the Moblin Desktop
Updated Packages:

DeviceKit-disks-007-5.fc12
--------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 007-5.fc12
- Give media players better icons


NetworkManager-openconnect-0.7.996-4.git20090921.fc12
-----------------------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Dan Williams  - 1:0.7.996-4.git20090921
- Rebuild for updated NetworkManager


NetworkManager-pptp-0.7.996-4.git20090921.fc12
----------------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Dan Williams  - 1:0.7.996-4.git20090921
- Rebuild for updated NetworkManager


amanda-2.6.0p2-14.fc12
----------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Daniel Novotny  2.6.0p2-14
- add amanda user to group "tape" (#529159)


anerley-0.1.6-1.fc12
--------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Peter Robinson  0.1.6-1
- New upstream 0.1.6 release

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Peter Robinson  0.1.5-1
- New upstream 0.1.5 release


anjal-0.1.0-0.13.20091012gitbf7a3d2.fc12
----------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Peter Robinson  0.1.0-0.13
- New git snapshot, lots of updated translations, nearing first release


bisho-0.15-1.fc12
-----------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Peter Robinson  0.15-1
- New upstream 0.15 release

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Peter Robinson  0.14-1
- New upstream 0.14 release

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Peter Robinson  0.14-2
- Add new nbtk dep


eclipse-3.5.1-1.fc12
--------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Alexander Kurtakov  1:3.5.1-1
- Update to 3.5.1.
- Fixes crash issue with gtk 2.18.


eclipse-photran-5.0.0-0.1.200910081739.fc12
-------------------------------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 5.0.0-0.1.200910081739
- Update to 5.0.0 pre-release 200910081739
- Drop outline patch fixed upstream


empathy-2.28.0.1-2.fc12
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Brian Pepple  - 2.28.0.1-2
- Require tp-idle and tp-butterfly.


etoys-4.0.2332-1.fc12
---------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Steven M. Parrish  - 4.0.2332-1
- lastest upstream release 4.0.2332


gnome-power-manager-2.28.0-2.fc12
---------------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-2
- Fix possible segfault


gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-2.fc12
-------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.25-2
- Add patches to fix some playbin2 bugs (#518880)


gvfs-1.4.0-6.fc12
-----------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Bastien Nocera  1.4.0-6
- Fix crasher in ObexFTP (#528181)

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Tomas Bzatek  - 1.4.0-5
- Don't always overwrite on trash restore
- Separate "Safely Remove Drive" from "Eject"
- Don't advertise can_poll for drives not using removable media
- Disallow mounting empty drives
- Disallow ejecting empty drives
- Silently drop eject error messages when detaching drive

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Tomas Bzatek  - 1.4.0-4
- Fix Nautilus not displaying friendly icons for SSH-connected system (#526892)
- Actually apply the logical partitions patch


icecream-0.9.4-5.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Michal Schmidt  0.9.4-5
- Fix failure to build native environment in SELinux enforcing mode.
- 'cvs rm ...' unused patches.


kdesdk-4.3.2-2.fc12
-------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-2
- Fix Kompare diff parsing regression (due to a typo in a bugfix)


liferea-1.6.0-1.fc12
--------------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Steven M. Parrish  - 1.6.0-1
- Add additional functionality #527873


moblin-icon-theme-0.8-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Peter Robinson  0.8-1
- New upstream 0.8 release


moblin-panel-myzone-0.0.8-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Peter Robinson  0.0.8-1
- New upstream 0.0.8 release


moblin-panel-people-0.0.6-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Peter Robinson  0.0.6-1
- New upstream 0.0.6 release

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Peter Robinson  0.0.5-1
- New upstream 0.0.5 release

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Peter Robinson  0.0.4-1
- New upstream 0.0.4 release


mod_fcgid-2.3.4-1.fc12
----------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Paul Howarth  2.3.4-1
- Update to 2.3.4 (configuration directives changed again)
- Add fixconf.sed script for config file directives update

* Fri Sep 25 2009 Paul Howarth  2.3.1-2.20090925svn818270
- Update to svn revision 818270
- DESTDIR and header detection patches upstreamed
- Build SELinux policy module for EL-5; support in EL-5.3 is incomplete and
  will be fixed in EL-5.5 (#519369)
- Drop aliases httpd_sys_content_r{a,o,w}_t -> httpd_fastcgi_content_r{a,o,w}_t
  from pre-2.5 SElinux policy module as these types aren't defined there

* Wed Sep 23 2009 Paul Howarth  2.3.1-1.20090923svn817978
- Update to post-2.3.1 svn snapshot
- Upstream moved to apache.org
- License changed to ASL 2.0
- Use FCGID-prefixed config file options (old ones deprecated)
- Lots of documentation changes
- Renumber sources
- Don't defer to mod_fastcgi if both are present
- Drop gawk buildreq
- Add patches fixing RPM build issues (DESTDIR support, header detection)


mojito-0.21.3-1.fc12
--------------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Peter Robinson  0.21.3-1
- Update to 0.21.3


nbtk-1.1.7-1.fc12
-----------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Peter Robinson  1.1.7-1
- New upstream 1.1.7 release


network-manager-netbook-1.3.1-0.2.fc12
--------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Peter Robinson  1.3.1-0.2
- Rebuild against latest NetworkManager release


paprefs-0.9.9-4.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Lennart Poettering  0.9.9-3
- Rebuild to make sure we look for /usr/lib/pulse-0.9.19/modules/xxx instead of /usr/lib/pulse-0.9.16/modules/xxx

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Lennart Poettering  0.9.9-4
- Fix mistag


pavucontrol-0.9.10-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Lennart Poettering  0.9.10-1
- New upstream 0.9.10


phpMyAdmin-3.2.2.1-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Robert Scheck  3.2.2.1-1
- Upstream released 3.2.2.1 (#528769)
- Require php-mcrypt for cookie authentication (#526979)


python-paramiko-1.7.5-2.fc12
----------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Jeremy Katz  - 1.7.5-2
- Fix race condition (#526341)


readahead-1.5.4-1.fc12
----------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Harald Hoyer  1.5.4-1
- cleanup readahead-collector audit rules
- translation update


rest-0.6.1-1.fc12
-----------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Peter Robinson  0.6.1-1
- New upstream 0.6.1 release


rhythmbox-0.12.5-6.fc12
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.12.5-6
- Fix DAAP plugin linkage


ruby-1.8.6.369-5.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 1.8.6.369-4
- Fix the search path of ri command for ri manuals installed with gem
  (bug 528787)

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 1.8.6.369-5
- Much better idea for Patch31 provided by Akira TAGOH 


smc-fonts-04.2-2.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Pravin Satpute  04.2-2
- bugfix 523454


sugar-0.86.2-1.fc12
-------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 0.86.2-1
- Not able to make screenshot #1464
- debug logs for the presence service and connection managers not 
working #927
- Not able to stop activities #1444

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 0.86.1-1
- Activities tray doesn't reflect well on switching between windows if 
there are non-sugar ones #1444
- sugar-emulator starts sugar out of Xephyr #1432
- Sugar resets gnome's cursor #1433
- Pass timestamp to gdk.Window.focus() on shell startup #1451
- Starting/resuming an entry from Journal shows wrong colours #1421
- Control panel resizing issue (for non en_US languages) #308
- Do not start title editing for non-ds objects #1411
- Shutdown/Reboot fails when multiple users are logged in #246
- Package sugar-desktop icon #1139
- Present windows in non-active process #1423

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 0.86.1-2
- added sugar-xo.svg icon to the emulator package

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 0.86.1-3
- typo


sugar-browse-114-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 113-1
- Better naming when uploading an entry #901 (Aleksey)
- Listen for mouseout event to popdown palette #1314
- Updated translations

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 114-1
- Updated translations


sugar-datastore-0.86.1-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 0.86.1-1
- Screenshot file is not deleted #1445


sugar-imageviewer-14-2.fc12
---------------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 14-1
- Updated Vietnamese translation

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 14-2
- Simple rebuild fixing dependency issue


sugar-read-76-2.fc12
--------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 76-1
- Fix pagination for IA Epubs
- Updated Vietnamese translations

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 76-2
- rebuild for sugar-toolkit


sugar-terminal-28-1.fc12
------------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 28-1
* Updated Vietnamese translations

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 27-1
- Make canvas emit motion-notify-event during pointer motion (dslo#1402) (Aleksey Lim)
- Fix typo (dslo#1356) (Aleksey Lim)
- Updated translations for French, German, Portuguese and Mongolian


sugar-toolkit-0.86.1-1.fc12
---------------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 0.86.1-1
- Do no use random color if metadata color is not valid #1435
- Shutdown/Reboot fails when multiple users are logged in #246
- Present windows in non-active process #1423


sugar-turtleart-72-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 72-1
- latest upstream release

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 69-1
- chmod +x svg factory
- added missing import gettext from talogo.py
- renamed xo-man to xo-child
- caught missing attribute when running from outside of Sugar
- new translations/artwork for de, fr, es, it
- added translator comments
- fixed several bugs in export to Logo code


sugar-write-68-1.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Simon Schampijer  - 68-1
- updated translations


totem-pl-parser-2.28.1-2.fc12
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-2
- Fix crasher when parsing multiple XML-ish playlists in Rhythmbox


xinetd-2.3.14-26.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Jan Zeleny  - 2:2.3.14-26
- correction of init script (LSB compliance - #528154)


Summary:
Added Packages: 3
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 44



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Fri Oct 16 12:04:09 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:04:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: recipe for adding samsung scx-4826fn printer to f12 beta?
Message-ID: 


  (even though f12 "beta" doesn't technically exist, i'll use that
designation for my f12 beta rc2 box that i'll keep fully updated.)

  back with f11, i had all kinds of grief trying to add and configure
a samsung scx-4826fn multifunction printer, involving downloading and
installing a samsung unified driver and samsung smart panel and god
knows what else.

  is there a simple, precise recipe i can use to test the installation
of this unit?  i can do the test and report back.

rday
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From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 14:01:01 2009
From: gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com (Gianluca Cecchi)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:01:01 +0200
Subject: f12 beta rc2 rescue doesn't work?
Message-ID: <561c252c0910160701v4e5c8e79tc4032295fea268b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I have qemu/kvm with host based on f11 x86_64 and rawvirt repo.
I have a guest that is a rawhide pre beta x86_64.
This guest has some problem in root fs and I want to use f12 beta rc2 to
rescue it.
I start guest from cd that actually is the iso downloaded (sha256sum is ok)
and select "rescue installed system" option from menu.
In installation window I get the choose language, choose keyboard and then,
strange, the select partition window .... it seems it is searching the
installation image for fedora as when you install from hard disk?????
I get the attached screen shot in console 3 if it may be useful.

If instead I do the same but in first screen I select "install or upgrade
system" it works ok, in the sense that I arrive up to the window when it
asks if I want to reinstall or upgrade; then I power off.
Available to test further if needed

I see in rescue mode the stage2=hd..... option in command line that I
thought wrong..... and cause of the problem, but actually also in working
install contains the hd ..

Any hints?

Gianluca
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From seventhguardian at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 14:10:11 2009
From: seventhguardian at gmail.com (Renato Caldas)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:10:11 +0100
Subject: New BugZapper Introduction
Message-ID: <1caff7430910160710q15eaf962t5add849facade2c4@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I've just applied to the BugZappers group. My name is Renato Caldas,
and I'm an Electrical Engineer. I'm presently working as an
investigator at LSTS-FEUP, Portugal.

I've been using Linux for over 6 years now, during which time I've
done a lot of programming (mainly in C, but also in other languages),
and made some small contributions to some projects. I've also helped
as a translator.

I've installed Fedora some weeks ago, having been with Gentoo for
almost 5 years. I eventually got tired of compiling every piece of
software in the system :) During that time I also helped around in
gentoo's bugzilla, by testing, triaging and actually fixing some bugs.

I've been enjoying the Fedora experience, and now I want to help :)
Cheers,
  Renato Caldas



From itamar at ispbrasil.com.br  Fri Oct 16 14:11:31 2009
From: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br (Itamar Reis Peixoto)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:11:31 -0300
Subject: New BugZapper Introduction
In-Reply-To: <1caff7430910160710q15eaf962t5add849facade2c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1caff7430910160710q15eaf962t5add849facade2c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

welcome.


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Renato Caldas
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've just applied to the BugZappers group. My name is Renato Caldas,
> and I'm an Electrical Engineer. I'm presently working as an
> investigator at LSTS-FEUP, Portugal.
>
> I've been using Linux for over 6 years now, during which time I've
> done a lot of programming (mainly in C, but also in other languages),
> and made some small contributions to some projects. I've also helped
> as a translator.
>
> I've installed Fedora some weeks ago, having been with Gentoo for
> almost 5 years. I eventually got tired of compiling every piece of
> software in the system :) During that time I also helped around in
> gentoo's bugzilla, by testing, triaging and actually fixing some bugs.
>
> I've been enjoying the Fedora experience, and now I want to help :)
> Cheers,
> ?Renato Caldas
>
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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From gene at czarc.net  Fri Oct 16 14:52:07 2009
From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:52:07 -0400
Subject: f12 beta rc2 rescue doesn't work?
In-Reply-To: <561c252c0910160701v4e5c8e79tc4032295fea268b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0910160701v4e5c8e79tc4032295fea268b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200910161052.07349.gene@czarc.net>

On Friday 16 October 2009 10:01:01 Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> Hello,
> I have qemu/kvm with host based on f11 x86_64 and rawvirt repo.
> I have a guest that is a rawhide pre beta x86_64.
> This guest has some problem in root fs and I want to use f12 beta rc2 to
> rescue it.
> I start guest from cd that actually is the iso downloaded (sha256sum is ok)
> and select "rescue installed system" option from menu.
> In installation window I get the choose language, choose keyboard and then,
> strange, the select partition window .... it seems it is searching the
> installation image for fedora as when you install from hard disk?????
> I get the attached screen shot in console 3 if it may be useful.
> 
> If instead I do the same but in first screen I select "install or upgrade
> system" it works ok, in the sense that I arrive up to the window when it
> asks if I want to reinstall or upgrade; then I power off.
> Available to test further if needed
> 
> I see in rescue mode the stage2=hd..... option in command line that I
> thought wrong..... and cause of the problem, but actually also in working
> install contains the hd ..
> 
> Any hints?

I believe you might have hit a problem ... please file a BZ report.

I tried to repeat your test.  In my case, the host is running F12-rawhide with 
all updates applied.  I have a qemu-kvm guest which I created from the F12-
Beta-RC2 DVD and this guest runs fine.

I shut the guest down and connected the cdrom to the F12-Beta-RC2 DVD iso and 
changed boot to the CDROM.  Booting up I selected rescue mode and the result 
hung as shown in the attached jpeg.  I forced a shutdown and changed the cdrom 
to point to the F12-Alpha DVD iso and rebooted selecting rescue mode ... it 
came up fine.

Gene
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From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri Oct 16 15:15:13 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:15:13 -0600
Subject: f12 beta rc2 rescue doesn't work?
In-Reply-To: <200910161052.07349.gene@czarc.net>
References: <561c252c0910160701v4e5c8e79tc4032295fea268b@mail.gmail.com>
	<200910161052.07349.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <1255706114.5444.7.camel@JesusChrist.localdomain>

Just a word to all who are dealing with Fedora 12 Beta RC Release.  I
made a DVD and installed it on my Dell Inspiron E1705 which was already
loaded with Fedora 11.  The transition was easy.  I am running it with
minor problems.  These problems are expected.  Other than those expected
problems, I believe there is a excellent product or OS on the way.  


On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 10:52 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
> On Friday 16 October 2009 10:01:01 Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I have qemu/kvm with host based on f11 x86_64 and rawvirt repo.
> > I have a guest that is a rawhide pre beta x86_64.
> > This guest has some problem in root fs and I want to use f12 beta rc2 to
> > rescue it.
> > I start guest from cd that actually is the iso downloaded (sha256sum is ok)
> > and select "rescue installed system" option from menu.
> > In installation window I get the choose language, choose keyboard and then,
> > strange, the select partition window .... it seems it is searching the
> > installation image for fedora as when you install from hard disk?????
> > I get the attached screen shot in console 3 if it may be useful.
> > 
> > If instead I do the same but in first screen I select "install or upgrade
> > system" it works ok, in the sense that I arrive up to the window when it
> > asks if I want to reinstall or upgrade; then I power off.
> > Available to test further if needed
> > 
> > I see in rescue mode the stage2=hd..... option in command line that I
> > thought wrong..... and cause of the problem, but actually also in working
> > install contains the hd ..
> > 
> > Any hints?
> 
> I believe you might have hit a problem ... please file a BZ report.
> 
> I tried to repeat your test.  In my case, the host is running F12-rawhide with 
> all updates applied.  I have a qemu-kvm guest which I created from the F12-
> Beta-RC2 DVD and this guest runs fine.
> 
> I shut the guest down and connected the cdrom to the F12-Beta-RC2 DVD iso and 
> changed boot to the CDROM.  Booting up I selected rescue mode and the result 
> hung as shown in the attached jpeg.  I forced a shutdown and changed the cdrom 
> to point to the F12-Alpha DVD iso and rebooted selecting rescue mode ... it 
> came up fine.
> 
> Gene
> -- 
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From notting at redhat.com  Fri Oct 16 15:19:46 2009
From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:19:46 -0400
Subject: rawhide report: 20091016 changes
In-Reply-To: <20091016114954.GA26569@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
References: <20091016114954.GA26569@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20091016151945.GA16446@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>

Rawhide Report (rawhide at fedoraproject.org) said: 
> 	sugar-toolkit-0.86.1-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json

This was a tagging mixup. It will be fixed.

Bill



From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 15:22:38 2009
From: gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com (Gianluca Cecchi)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:22:38 +0200
Subject: f12 beta rc2 rescue doesn't work?
In-Reply-To: <561c252c0910160701v4e5c8e79tc4032295fea268b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0910160701v4e5c8e79tc4032295fea268b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <561c252c0910160822p786d6b70i2e4e7e5f77cac2ad@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:52:07 -0400 Gene Czarcinski wrote:

> I believe you might have hit a problem ... please file a BZ report.

Ok, opened bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529392

Now I only need information about where to order the T-shirt with the "I'm a
Fedora bug hunter" message ;-P
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From seventhguardian at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 15:31:04 2009
From: seventhguardian at gmail.com (Renato Caldas)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:31:04 +0100
Subject: New BugZapper Introduction
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1caff7430910160710q15eaf962t5add849facade2c4@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <1caff7430910160831x10f39c96hc23f294aba24bf1c@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto
 wrote:
> welcome.
Thanks! :)


>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Renato Caldas
>  wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've just applied to the BugZappers group. My name is Renato Caldas,
>> and I'm an Electrical Engineer. I'm presently working as an
>> investigator at LSTS-FEUP, Portugal.
>>
>> I've been using Linux for over 6 years now, during which time I've
>> done a lot of programming (mainly in C, but also in other languages),
>> and made some small contributions to some projects. I've also helped
>> as a translator.
>>
>> I've installed Fedora some weeks ago, having been with Gentoo for
>> almost 5 years. I eventually got tired of compiling every piece of
>> software in the system :) During that time I also helped around in
>> gentoo's bugzilla, by testing, triaging and actually fixing some bugs.
>>
>> I've been enjoying the Fedora experience, and now I want to help :)
>> Cheers,
>> ?Renato Caldas
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ------------
>
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>
> e-mail/msn: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br
> sip: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br
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From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 16:58:45 2009
From: gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com (Gianluca Cecchi)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:58:45 +0200
Subject: install with 256mb on previous rawhide fails
Message-ID: <561c252c0910160958k540b118fya33525c57cb33ab9@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I have qemu/kvm with host based on f11 x86_64 and rawvirt repo.
I have a guest that is a rawhide pre beta x86_64.
I start guest from dvd that actually is the iso downloaded (sha256sum is ok)
and select "install or upgrade system" option from menu.
I go straight on with default options selecting "replace existing system"
and I notice that:

- if I have into the guest 256mb of ram it scales to text install and then
aborts right after the confirmation about "writing modifcations to disk"
- if I assign 512Mb of ram to guest it goes graphic and installation
completes flawlessly

Opened new bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529401

Bye,
Gianluca
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From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 17:02:34 2009
From: gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com (Gianluca Cecchi)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:02:34 +0200
Subject: install with 256mb on previous rawhide fails
In-Reply-To: <561c252c0910160958k540b118fya33525c57cb33ab9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0910160958k540b118fya33525c57cb33ab9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <561c252c0910161002g7a91fc9bw36cb7c9f0b1594ea@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
wrote:

> [snip]
> - if I assign 512Mb of ram to guest it goes graphic and installation
> completes flawlessly
> [snip]
>

Apart from a kernel stack trace at the end when I reboot, that I was not
able to intercept/capture....

Gianluca
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 16 17:25:39 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:25:39 -0700
Subject: New BugZapper Introduction
In-Reply-To: <1caff7430910160710q15eaf962t5add849facade2c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1caff7430910160710q15eaf962t5add849facade2c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1255713939.2314.90.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 15:10 +0100, Renato Caldas wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've just applied to the BugZappers group. My name is Renato Caldas,
> and I'm an Electrical Engineer. I'm presently working as an
> investigator at LSTS-FEUP, Portugal.
> 
> I've been using Linux for over 6 years now, during which time I've
> done a lot of programming (mainly in C, but also in other languages),
> and made some small contributions to some projects. I've also helped
> as a translator.
> 
> I've installed Fedora some weeks ago, having been with Gentoo for
> almost 5 years. I eventually got tired of compiling every piece of
> software in the system :) During that time I also helped around in
> gentoo's bugzilla, by testing, triaging and actually fixing some bugs.
> 
> I've been enjoying the Fedora experience, and now I want to help :)
> Cheers,
>   Renato Caldas

Hi, Renato, and welcome to the group! I'll approve your membership in a
second.

If you haven't yet, please do have a look at all the documentation we
have to get you started with triaging:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests - general BZ
reference
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Components_and_Triagers - use
this to pick a component to help triage
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/FindingBugs
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/How_to_Triage
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/StockBugzillaResponses

If you're confident about the process after doing the reading, you can
certainly just start right away after that. If you'd prefer a bit more
guidance, many existing BugZappers are happy to mentor new members -
just post a request to the list, or ask in a meeting or any time on
#fedora-bugzappers IRC.

Many of us stay online in #fedora-bugzappers most of the time, it's a
good way to get suggestions from the rest of the group on anything
you're not sure about and so on.

Meetings are every Tuesday at 15:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting , please do
come along if you're free at this time! It's always good to have more
heads in a meeting.

Thanks again for volunteering!

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 17:26:55 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:26:55 -0400
Subject: New BugZapper Introduction
In-Reply-To: <1caff7430910160710q15eaf962t5add849facade2c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1caff7430910160710q15eaf962t5add849facade2c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091016172655.GB2669@blackhare>

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 03:10:11PM +0100, Renato Caldas wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've just applied to the BugZappers group. My name is Renato Caldas,
> and I'm an Electrical Engineer. I'm presently working as an
> investigator at LSTS-FEUP, Portugal.
> 
> I've been using Linux for over 6 years now, during which time I've
> done a lot of programming (mainly in C, but also in other languages),
> and made some small contributions to some projects. I've also helped
> as a translator.
> 
> I've installed Fedora some weeks ago, having been with Gentoo for
> almost 5 years. I eventually got tired of compiling every piece of
> software in the system :) During that time I also helped around in
> gentoo's bugzilla, by testing, triaging and actually fixing some bugs.
> 
> I've been enjoying the Fedora experience, and now I want to help :)
> Cheers,
>   Renato Caldas
> 
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list

Hello Renato, welcome to the group! 
I will approve your group membership in a second. We've have a list of components which we'd like BugZappers to work on as a priority.

The list
is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Components_and_Triagers

we'd recommend you pick a component from that list that you feel comfortable working on, then contact its maintainer to say you'll be working on triaging it, and ask if they have any tips or special requests. Then read:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Tools
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/FindingBugs
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/How_to_Triage
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/FindingDuplicates
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/StockBugzillaResponses

To see how the process works (I know that looks like a lot of pages, but several of them are pretty short, and they all work together). 
Please do join #fedora-bugzappers and ask if you have any questions or problems, there's usually another team member around who can help you out. 
Thanks a lot for volunteering your time! Do come out to the next meeting - they're Tuesdays at 15:00 UTC - if you have the time, and we can welcome you there.

Edward Kirk (IRC: TK009)



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 17:28:18 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:28:18 -0400
Subject: New BugZapper Introduction
In-Reply-To: <1255713939.2314.90.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1caff7430910160710q15eaf962t5add849facade2c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<1255713939.2314.90.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20091016172818.GC2669@blackhare>


love that timing =)



From seventhguardian at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 18:09:43 2009
From: seventhguardian at gmail.com (Renato Caldas)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:09:43 +0100
Subject: New BugZapper Introduction
In-Reply-To: <20091016172655.GB2669@blackhare>
References: <1caff7430910160710q15eaf962t5add849facade2c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091016172655.GB2669@blackhare>
Message-ID: <1caff7430910161109m498fe999x4085f404976b19a8@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:26 PM, TK009  wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 03:10:11PM +0100, Renato Caldas wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've just applied to the BugZappers group. My name is Renato Caldas,
>> and I'm an Electrical Engineer. I'm presently working as an
>> investigator at LSTS-FEUP, Portugal.
> Hello Renato, welcome to the group!
> I will approve your group membership in a second. We've have a list of components which we'd like BugZappers to work on as a priority.

Thank you both! And that was perfect timing indeed :)

I'm pretty familiar to the general bugzilla use, but there may be some
Fedora specifics, so I'll study the documentation.

> Thanks a lot for volunteering your time! Do come out to the next meeting - they're Tuesdays at 15:00 UTC - if you have the time, and we can welcome you there.

I'll try. That's 15:00 here though, so it's at the beginning of the afternoon :)

Cheers,
  Renato



From jkeating at redhat.com  Fri Oct 16 21:40:41 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:40:41 -0700
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	
Message-ID: <1255729241.13809.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 06:25 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> 
>   ok, that clears things up in the sense that i couldn't figure out
> *where* i got that tarball Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso.  if
> pre-pre-releases like that are still going to be available (even if
> not officially), it might be a good idea to add the RC# part to the
> tarball name itself, just to avoid confusion.
> 

A) it's not a tarball, it's an iso.

B) because it's a release candidate, it has to be named exactly as how
the release would be.  The very definition of a release /candidate/ is
that it has potential to become the release itself.  Therefor we can't
be renaming things or re-doing the compose.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From jkeating at redhat.com  Fri Oct 16 21:41:47 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:41:47 -0700
Subject: f12 beta rc2 rescue doesn't work?
In-Reply-To: <200910161052.07349.gene@czarc.net>
References: <561c252c0910160701v4e5c8e79tc4032295fea268b@mail.gmail.com>
	<200910161052.07349.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <1255729307.13809.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 10:52 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
> I shut the guest down and connected the cdrom to the F12-Beta-RC2 DVD iso and 
> changed boot to the CDROM.  Booting up I selected rescue mode and the result 
> hung as shown in the attached jpeg.  

You didn't wait long enough.  I ran into this too and let it sit, and it
eventually came up.  Some process is taking too long.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 16 22:17:51 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:17:51 -0700
Subject: old noarch RPMs breaking deltaisos
In-Reply-To: <4AD5E1F4.50704@bwh.harvard.edu>
References: <4AD3675A.6010806@bwh.harvard.edu> <4AD5E1F4.50704@bwh.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <1255731471.2314.172.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:36 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
> I looked at the dates on the noarch packages on the F11 ISO and the
> earliest modification date is March 9, about 3 months before F11 Final.
>  Does this mean that all noarch packages are expected to be rebuilt
> before F13's release?

sorry for the late reply. it's very likely; a full rebuild of all
packages is done at least once for each release as a matter of policy,
AIUI.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From kevin at scrye.com  Fri Oct 16 22:23:06 2009
From: kevin at scrye.com (Kevin Fenzi)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:23:06 -0600
Subject: old noarch RPMs breaking deltaisos
In-Reply-To: <1255731471.2314.172.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4AD3675A.6010806@bwh.harvard.edu> <4AD5E1F4.50704@bwh.harvard.edu>
	<1255731471.2314.172.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20091016162306.20ce50b3@ohm.scrye.com>

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:17:51 -0700
Adam Williamson  wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:36 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
> > I looked at the dates on the noarch packages on the F11 ISO and the
> > earliest modification date is March 9, about 3 months before F11
> > Final. Does this mean that all noarch packages are expected to be
> > rebuilt before F13's release?
> 
> sorry for the late reply. it's very likely; a full rebuild of all
> packages is done at least once for each release as a matter of policy,
> AIUI.

Nope. A mass rebuild is done only when there is some reason to do
so. ;) 

In f11's rawhide cycle it was for sha256 hashes in rpms and to change
compiler options (i386->i586). 

In f12's rawhide cycle it has been xz payloads and (i586->i686). 

If there's a reason a mass rebuild will get done, but it's not a
requirement each cycle. 

kevin
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From rivanvx at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 22:53:49 2009
From: rivanvx at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Vedran_Mileti=C4=87?=)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:53:49 +0200
Subject: old noarch RPMs breaking deltaisos
In-Reply-To: <20091016162306.20ce50b3@ohm.scrye.com>
References: <4AD3675A.6010806@bwh.harvard.edu>
	<4AD5E1F4.50704@bwh.harvard.edu> 
	<1255731471.2314.172.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20091016162306.20ce50b3@ohm.scrye.com>
Message-ID: 

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:17:51 -0700
> Adam Williamson  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:36 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
>> > I looked at the dates on the noarch packages on the F11 ISO and the
>> > earliest modification date is March 9, about 3 months before F11
>> > Final. Does this mean that all noarch packages are expected to be
>> > rebuilt before F13's release?
>>
>> sorry for the late reply. it's very likely; a full rebuild of all
>> packages is done at least once for each release as a matter of policy,
>> AIUI.
>
> Nope. A mass rebuild is done only when there is some reason to do
> so. ;)
>
> In f11's rawhide cycle it was for sha256 hashes in rpms and to change
> compiler options (i386->i586).
>
> In f12's rawhide cycle it has been xz payloads and (i586->i686).
>
> If there's a reason a mass rebuild will get done, but it's not a
> requirement each cycle.
>
> kevin
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

But then it would be possible, if a package never gets updated and
mass rebuild doesn't happen, that a package would carry old release
tag, right?

-- 
Vedran Mileti?



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 16 22:59:27 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:59:27 -0700
Subject: old noarch RPMs breaking deltaisos
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4AD3675A.6010806@bwh.harvard.edu> <4AD5E1F4.50704@bwh.harvard.edu>
	<1255731471.2314.172.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20091016162306.20ce50b3@ohm.scrye.com>
	
Message-ID: <1255733967.2314.174.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 00:53 +0200, Vedran Mileti? wrote:

> But then it would be possible, if a package never gets updated and
> mass rebuild doesn't happen, that a package would carry old release
> tag, right?

yes, in fact it happens every release (even for 11 and 12, some packages
failed the mass rebuilds). as long as they still work, it's not an
actual problem.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 23:57:08 2009
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:27:08 +0530
Subject: Fedora 11 latest updates problem
Message-ID: <78323d480910161657g4737dc1ds4a29f700005a206@mail.gmail.com>

swiprolog and Gnu prolog cannot be updated in F11 x86-64 due to
dependency issue.

Best

A. Mani



-- 
A. Mani
ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://www.logicamani.co.cc



From dtimms at iinet.net.au  Sat Oct 17 04:16:46 2009
From: dtimms at iinet.net.au (David Timms)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:16:46 +1100
Subject: install with 256mb on previous rawhide fails - virtualbox guest
In-Reply-To: <561c252c0910161002g7a91fc9bw36cb7c9f0b1594ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561c252c0910160958k540b118fya33525c57cb33ab9@mail.gmail.com>
	<561c252c0910161002g7a91fc9bw36cb7c9f0b1594ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AD9452E.6070303@iinet.net.au>

On 10/17/2009 04:02 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
> Apart from a kernel stack trace at the end when I reboot, that I was not
> able to intercept/capture....
With the pre beta (I think form before the beta being send to mirrors), 
I get a successful anaconda run and package install on a VirtualBox-OSE 
guest. At completion, there is a message about successful install, and 
you are asked to reboot. At this point I see a stack trace as the 
machine was almost shutdown.

When it comes back up, I get the grub shell, but the grub menu didn't show.

This was with a fresh install, overwriting the previous attempt at 
upgrading from F10.
====
The same vm originally had F10. The pre-beta upgrade also completed, but 
got a stack trace as it rebooted. On reboot, I just got GRUB GRUB GRUB 
continually being written to screen.

By booting the preBeta dvd, rescue mode, and running grub-install (hd0), 
and rebooting, that F10-pre-beta upgrade then booted and ran successfully.



From dtimms at iinet.net.au  Sat Oct 17 04:22:46 2009
From: dtimms at iinet.net.au (David Timms)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:22:46 +1100
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta - how to tell ?
In-Reply-To: <1255729241.13809.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: 	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>		
	<1255729241.13809.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4AD94696.6010904@iinet.net.au>

On 10/17/2009 08:40 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> B) because it's a release candidate, it has to be named exactly as how
> the release would be.  The very definition of a release /candidate/ is
> that it has potential to become the release itself.  Therefor we can't
> be renaming things or re-doing the compose.
So, is the only way to confirm what you have is to check against the 
CHECKSUM file.

Since the name stays the same, does this mean that the CHECKSUM file 
would get updated to indicate what you actually have ?

or How would you determine whether you have an RC or the RC that became 
the release ?



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sat Oct 17 05:00:29 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:00:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta?
In-Reply-To: <1255729241.13809.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: 
	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	
	<1255729241.13809.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Jesse Keating wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 06:25 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >
> >   ok, that clears things up in the sense that i couldn't figure out
> > *where* i got that tarball Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso.  if
> > not officially), it might be a good idea to add the RC# part to the
> > tarball name itself, just to avoid confusion.
>
> A) it's not a tarball, it's an iso.

  sorry, brain fart.

> B) because it's a release candidate, it has to be named exactly as
> how the release would be.  The very definition of a release
> /candidate/ is that it has potential to become the release itself.
> Therefor we can't be renaming things or re-doing the compose.

  a valid philosophy but the linux kernel sees it differently, so it's
not like there's just one true way, but how fedora chooses to do this
is perfectly valid, thanks.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From epodata at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 06:17:35 2009
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:17:35 +0200
Subject: Empty boot.log
In-Reply-To: <4AD20B03.5060008@gmail.com>
References: <4AD0ABAA.9060302@gmail.com>	<82F6BDE3-E235-4D40-A868-AC2EAD7077A6@gmail.com>	<4AD0FA11.30008@gmail.com>		<4AD1AFED.9040208@gmail.com>
	<3B258CAC-C289-4190-B5D4-E2D7B1E8CBCC@gmail.com>
	<4AD20B03.5060008@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AD9617F.7030008@gmail.com>

See bug report 529221

-- 
Cheers
Erik.



From jkeating at redhat.com  Sat Oct 17 07:55:38 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:55:38 -0700
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	
	<1255729241.13809.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
Message-ID: <1255766138.25237.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 01:00 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> 
>   a valid philosophy but the linux kernel sees it differently, so it's
> not like there's just one true way, but how fedora chooses to do this
> is perfectly valid, thanks. 

If we were dealing with just a distribution of source, it could be
different.  But since we have to compile that source, and then compile
those compiles into a binary install tree, there are lots of chances for
things to go wrong, and so we test what will go out the door, rather
than what we hope will be the same in the future if we do another
compose.

I've always taken offense to the term "release candidate" when there is
no possible way the candidate could ever be released as is.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From jkeating at redhat.com  Sat Oct 17 07:56:54 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:56:54 -0700
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta - how to tell ?
In-Reply-To: <4AD94696.6010904@iinet.net.au>
References: 
	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	
	<1255729241.13809.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4AD94696.6010904@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <1255766214.25237.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 15:22 +1100, David Timms wrote:
> So, is the only way to confirm what you have is to check against the 
> CHECKSUM file.
> 
> Since the name stays the same, does this mean that the CHECKSUM file 
> would get updated to indicate what you actually have ?
> 
> or How would you determine whether you have an RC or the RC that became 
> the release ? 

That's the fun part (:  When no more RC directories show up, that's a
good sign that you've got what will be the release.  Also you can verify
your CHECKSUM against the released checksum when the mirrors open up.

I'm not about to advertise in the public space "Hey come over here and
download the RC which became the release, get it early and destroy our
bandwidth!"

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sat Oct 17 08:27:29 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:27:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta - how to tell ?
In-Reply-To: <1255766214.25237.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: 
	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	
	<1255729241.13809.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4AD94696.6010904@iinet.net.au>
	<1255766214.25237.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: 

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, Jesse Keating wrote:

> I'm not about to advertise in the public space "Hey come over here
> and download the RC which became the release, get it early and
> destroy our bandwidth!"

  that's a valid point, but it makes me wonder -- how *did* i stumble
across that iso?  it's here:

http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD/

but i have no idea how i came to know about it.  i'd never even
*heard* of that "alt" subdomain.  so how did i come across it?
strange.

  and, just my personal opinion, if something is "officially" tagged
as an RC2 (as it clearly is based on the name of the URL), i think it
should have RC2 embedded in the iso name somewhere.  it's not a
massive effort, and it would prevent inevitable confusion down the
road.  witness this thread as an example. :-)

  further than that, deponent sayeth not.

rday
--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sat Oct 17 08:29:45 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:29:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta?
In-Reply-To: <1255766138.25237.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: 
	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	
	<1255729241.13809.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
	<1255766138.25237.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: 

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, Jesse Keating wrote:

> I've always taken offense to the term "release candidate" when there
> is no possible way the candidate could ever be released as is.

  i will agree with that wholeheartedly.  the term "release candidate"
should only ever apply to things that *could* represent the final
release.  so, in that sense, the linux kernel really does take
liberties with that naming scheme.

rday

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct 17 12:35:36 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:35:36 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091017 changes
Message-ID: <20091017123536.GA16293@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sat Oct 17 06:15:14 UTC 2009










Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



Removed package blobAndConquer
Updated Packages:

abrt-0.0.10-1.fc12
------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Jiri Moskovcak  0.0.10-1
- new version
- added more logging (vda.linux at googlemail.com)
- made polkit policy to be more permissive when installing debuginfo (jmoskovc at redhat.com)
- lib/Plugins/CCpp.cpp: add build-ids to backtrace (vda.linux at googlemail.com)
- lib/Plugins/CCpp.cpp: do not use temp file for gdb commands - use -ex CMD instead (vda.linux at googlemail.com)
- GUI: added refresh button, added sanity check to plugin settings (jmoskovc at redhat.com)
- Initial man page for abrt-cli (kklic at redhat.com)
- Added --version, -V, --help, -? options. Fixed crash caused by unknown option. (kklic at redhat.com)
- Date/time honors current system locale (kklic at redhat.com)
- fixed saving/reading user config (jmoskovc at redhat.com)
- SPEC: added gnome-python2-gnomekeyring to requirements (jmoskovc at redhat.com)
- GUI: call Report() with the latest pluginsettings (jmoskovc at redhat.com)
- Fix Bug 526220 -  [abrt] crash detected in abrt-gui-0.0.9-2.fc12 (vda.linux at googlemail.com)
- removed unsecure reading/writting from ~HOME directory rhbz#522878 (jmoskovc at redhat.com)
- error checking added to archive creation (danny at rawhide.localdomain)
- try using pk-debuginfo-install before falling back to debuginfo-install (vda.linux at googlemail.com)
- abrt-gui: make "report" toolbar button work even if abrtd is not running (vda.linux at googlemail.com)
- set LIMIT_MESSAGE to 16k, typo fix and daemon now reads config information from dbus (npajkovs at redhat.com)
- add support for abrtd autostart (vda.linux at googlemail.com)
- GUI: reversed the dumplist, so the latest crashes are at the top (jmoskovc at redhat.com)
- rewrite FileTransfer to use library calls instead of commandline calls for compression (dnovotny at redhat.com)
- and many minor fixes ..


aria2-1.6.2-1.fc12
------------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Rahul Sundaram  - 1.6.2-1
- Minor bug fixes and switch XZ compressed source 
- http://aria2.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/aria2/trunk/NEWS?revision=1586


binutils-2.19.51.0.14-33.fc12
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Jakub Jelinek  2.19.51.0.14-33
- Add .cfi_sections support.  (PR debug/40521)


claws-mail-3.7.3-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Andreas Bierfert 
- 3.7.3-1
- version upgrade (including gtk 2.18 fixes #527065)


claws-mail-plugins-3.7.3-1.fc12
-------------------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Andreas Bierfert 
- 3.7.3-1
- version upgrade
- new plugins bsfilter, python


firstboot-1.110-1.fc12
----------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Chris Lumens  1.110-1
- Always attempt to display the Fedora logo, if present (jmccann).
- Fix a bunch of small firstboot UI problems (jmccann).


glibc-2.10.90-25
----------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Andreas Schwab  - 2.10.90-25
- Update from master
  - Fix descriptor leak when calling dlopen with RTLD_NOLOAD (#527409).
  - Fix week-1stday in C locale.
  - Check for integer overflows in formatting functions.
  - Fix locale program error handling (#525363).


gnome-panel-2.28.0-6.fc12
-------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-6
- Put status icons in a predictable order

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-5
- Tweaks to the default panel configuration


gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-2.fc12
-------------------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-2
- Fix autoconvert caps negotiation


gtk2-2.18.2-3.fc12
------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.2-3
- Make gtk-builder-convert use system python


hercstudio-1.0.0-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 1.0.0-1
- update to 1.0.0


imsettings-0.107.4-2.fc12
-------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Akira TAGOH  - 0.107.4-2
- Run IM for Mailthili by default. (#529144)


kazehakase-0.5.8-2.fc12
-----------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 0.5.8-2
- Fix crash when trying to view source or cert with no page loaded
  (bug 529334)


kdebase-runtime-4.3.2-4.fc12
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Rex Dieter  4.3.2-4
- Conflicts: kdebase4 < 4.3.0 instead

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Rex Dieter  4.3.2-3
- Conflicts: kdebase < 6:4.3.0
- Requires: oxygen-icon-theme >= %{version}


kdeplasma-addons-4.3.2-3.fc12
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-3
- rev microblog/twitter patch (kde#200475#c36)

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-2
- microblog/twitter fix (kde#209891)


libasyncns-0.8-1.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Lennart Poettering  0.8-1
- New release


libcanberra-0.21-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Lennart Poettering  0.21-1
- New version 0.21

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Lennart Poettering  0.20-1
- New version 0.20

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Lennart Poettering  0.19-1
- New version 0.19


libdrm-2.4.15-1.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Dave Airlie  2.4.15-1
- rebase to latest upstream release


libgweather-2.28.0-2.fc12
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-2
- Pick a better weather station for Montreal


metacity-2.28.0-3.fc12
----------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-3
- Tweak the default number of workspaces


mysql-5.1.39-3.fc12
-------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Tom Lane  5.1.39-3
- Work around two different compiler bugs on sparc, one by backing off
  optimization from -O2 to -O1, and the other with a klugy patch
Related: #529298, #529299
- Clean up bogosity in multilib stub header support: ia64 should not be
  listed (it's not multilib), sparc and sparc64 should be


notification-daemon-0.4.1-0.20090923.3.fc12
-------------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 0.4.1-1.20090923.3
- Fix issues with the multi-monitor support
- Make screensaver check work
- Use gvfs-open instead of gnome-open


ocaml-camlimages-3.0.1-12.fc12.1
--------------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 3.0.1-12.fc12.1
- ocaml-camlimages: TIFF reader multiple integer overflows
  (CVE 2009-3296 / RHBZ#528732).


ocaml-mysql-1.0.4-11.fc12
-------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.0.4-11
- Patch for CVE 2009-2942 Missing escape function (RHBZ#529321).


ocaml-postgresql-1.12.3-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.12.3-1
- New upstream version 1.12.3.
- This contains a SECURITY fix for:
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529325
  CVE-2009-2943 ocaml-postgresql: Missing escape function (DSA-1909-1)
  HOWEVER you are not protected until you change your code to
  use the new connection#escape_string method.


openssl-1.0.0-0.10.beta3.fc12
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Tomas Mraz  1.0.0-0.10.beta3
- fix use of freed memory if SSL_CTX_free() is called before
  SSL_free() (#521342)


pidgin-2.6.3-1.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Warren Togami  2.6.3-1
- 2.6.3 CVE-2009-3615


plymouth-0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.11.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Ray Strode  0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.10
- Fix more emergency shell horkage (for users without modesetting)
  (bug 528683)

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Ray Strode  0.8.0-0.2009.29.09.11
- Clean up terminal on exit (bug 528683 again)


selinux-policy-3.6.32-27.fc12
-----------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-26
- Fix labeling for privoxy config files
- Add devtmpfs file system labeling

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-27
- Allow plymouthd_t to use frame_buffer

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-25
- Fix alias for execmem_exec_t
- Dontaudit hal leakage
- Add label for nspluginviewer


setroubleshoot-2.2.40-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Dan Walsh  - 2.2.40-1
- Fix up browser button handling when there are 0, 1 or more alerts

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Dan Walsh  - 2.2.39-1
- Catch additional bugzilla exception

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Dan Walsh  - 2.2.38-1
- Show that the application is starting.
- Fix ignore sealert button


setroubleshoot-plugins-2.1.28-1.fc12
------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009  - 2.1.28-1
- Update-po

* Tue Oct 13 2009  - 2.1.27-1
- Add vbetool plugin

* Wed Oct 07 2009  - 2.1.26-1
- Add wine plugin

* Tue Oct 06 2009  - 2.1.25-1
- Fix http_can_senmail to look for "sendmail" in command

* Thu Oct 01 2009  - 2.1.24-2
- Add support for Green Plugins


sugar-toolkit-0.86.1-2.fc12
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.86.1-2
- Remove python-json requirement, which is now provided by Python 2.6


udev-145-11.fc12
----------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Harald Hoyer  145-11
- recognize a devtmpfs on /dev (bug #528488)


wxGTK-2.8.10-5.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 2.8.10-5
- add fix for excessive CPU usage (#494425)


xdg-utils-1.0.2-14.20091016cvs.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.2-14.20091016cvs
- prefer gvfs-open over gnome-open (#529287)
- DE=gnome, if org.gnome.SessionManager exists on dbus (#529287)

* Mon Sep 28 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.0.2-13.20090928cvs
- xdg-open: use kde-open


xpdf-3.02-15.fc12
-----------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 1:3.02-15
- apply xpdf-3.02pl4 security patch to fix:
  CVE-2009-3603, CVE-2009-3604, CVE-2009-3605, CVE-2009-3606
  CVE-2009-3608, CVE-2009-3609


yum-3.2.25-1.fc12
-----------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Seth Vidal  - 3.2.25-1
- 3.2.25


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 37



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 13:20:17 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:50:17 -0430
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta?
In-Reply-To: <1255766138.25237.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: 
	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	
	<1255729241.13809.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
	<1255766138.25237.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1255785617.8140.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 00:55 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> I've always taken offense to the term "release candidate" when there
> is no possible way the candidate could ever be released as is.

Perhaps you mean "taken exception". No-one is trying to offend you.

poc (founder member of the Grammar Police :-)



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Sat Oct 17 14:16:01 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:16:01 -0400
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta?
In-Reply-To: <1255785617.8140.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: 	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>			<1255729241.13809.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>		<1255766138.25237.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1255785617.8140.71.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4AD9D1A1.8010201@cox.net>

On 10/17/2009 09:20 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 00:55 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> I've always taken offense to the term "release candidate" when there
>> is no possible way the candidate could ever be released as is.
>
> Perhaps you mean "taken exception". No-one is trying to offend you.
>
> poc (founder member of the Grammar Police :-)
>

s/mean/meant/   s/is/was/

The OPs action took place in the past. :-)



From bruno at wolff.to  Sat Oct 17 14:31:58 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:31:58 -0500
Subject: f12, alpha versus beta - how to tell ?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1255621450.2314.43.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	
	<1255729241.13809.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4AD94696.6010904@iinet.net.au>
	<1255766214.25237.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
Message-ID: <20091017143158.GA9149@wolff.to>

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 04:27:29 -0400,
  "Robert P. J. Day"  wrote:
> 
>   that's a valid point, but it makes me wonder -- how *did* i stumble
> across that iso?  it's here:

The location was mentioned on at least one of the Fedora lists. There was
a call for testers to try it and see if some problems were resolved.
It can also help if people who grabbed a copy started seeding it (or any of
the live cds) on the release day once the trackers are set up since that will
speed up bittorrent downloads.

> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-Beta-RC2/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD/
> 
>   and, just my personal opinion, if something is "officially" tagged
> as an RC2 (as it clearly is based on the name of the URL), i think it
> should have RC2 embedded in the iso name somewhere.  it's not a
> massive effort, and it would prevent inevitable confusion down the
> road.  witness this thread as an example. :-)

You should get to pick a name when you save it. So if you want rc2 in
the filename, add it when you save it.

The people that typically hear about these should know enough to not get
confused.



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 16:49:32 2009
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:19:32 +0530
Subject: Resizing ext4 partitions
Message-ID: <78323d480910170949pe2d5b6bjbdadf3c2e6c10a7a@mail.gmail.com>

Is it really safe to resize ext4 partitions?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529285

on rawhide F12 x86-64

Actually resizing led to overlapping partitions: logical /swap (sda5)
ended up as another primary due to resize of the primary ext4 /boot
partition (sda2) and sda1. Physically sda5 was next to sda2.
Before Resize:

DOS partition Table
primary sda1, 2
Extended -3
logicals :sda5, .. 7
primary sda4


Best

A. Mani


-- 
A. Mani
ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://www.logicamani.co.cc



From satellit at bendbroadband.com  Sat Oct 17 17:43:18 2009
From: satellit at bendbroadband.com (Thomas C Gilliard)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:43:18 -0700
Subject: F12-Beta-i686-Live-Edu.iso has selinux problem with sugar browse
In-Reply-To: <20091017160016.479A9619352@hormel.redhat.com>
References: <20091017160016.479A9619352@hormel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4ADA0236.5050207@bendbroadband.com>

F12-Beta-i686-Live-Edu.iso has 2 problems:

1.) selinux policy has to be set to selenix=0 for sugar browse to work 
using these methods
    a.)   selinux=0 at boot screen
    b.) changing selinux policy in gnome first then logging into sugar
2.) logging out of sugar and back into gnome. Sugar mouse cursor is 
retained in gnome desktop.

selinux policy should be changed to allow sugar activities to work.

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>    1. Re: f12, alpha versus beta? (Jesse Keating)
>    2. Re: f12, alpha versus beta - how to tell ? (Jesse Keating)
>    3. Re: f12, alpha versus beta - how to tell ? (Robert P. J. Day)
>    4. Re: f12, alpha versus beta? (Robert P. J. Day)
>    5. rawhide report: 20091017 changes (Rawhide Report)
>    6. Re: f12, alpha versus beta? (Patrick O'Callaghan)
>    7. Re: f12, alpha versus beta? (Clyde E. Kunkel)
>    8. Re: f12, alpha versus beta - how to tell ? (Bruno Wolff III)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:55:38 -0700
> From: Jesse Keating 
> Subject: Re: f12, alpha versus beta?
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1255766138.25237.1.camel at localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 01:00 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   
>>   a valid philosophy but the linux kernel sees it differently, so it's
>> not like there's just one true way, but how fedora chooses to do this
>> is perfectly valid, thanks. 
>>     
>
> If we were dealing with just a distribution of source, it could be
> different.  But since we have to compile that source, and then compile
> those compiles into a binary install tree, there are lots of chances for
> things to go wrong, and so we test what will go out the door, rather
> than what we hope will be the same in the future if we do another
> compose.
>
> I've always taken offense to the term "release candidate" when there is
> no possible way the candidate could ever be released as is.
>
>   
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From seventhguardian at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 17:46:43 2009
From: seventhguardian at gmail.com (Renato Caldas)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:46:43 +0100
Subject: Resizing ext4 partitions
In-Reply-To: <78323d480910170949pe2d5b6bjbdadf3c2e6c10a7a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480910170949pe2d5b6bjbdadf3c2e6c10a7a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1caff7430910171046l525f872ex795c090925e8f688@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 5:49 PM, A. Mani  wrote:
> Is it really safe to resize ext4 partitions?

Messing with partitions is always dangerous. A small distraction can
always lead to data loss, so that's why most partition editors warn
the user.

To my experience it can be done, provided that you pay attention to what you do.

> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529285
>
> on rawhide F12 x86-64
>
> Actually resizing led to overlapping partitions: logical /swap (sda5)
> ended up as another primary due to resize of the primary ext4 /boot
> partition (sda2) and sda1. Physically sda5 was next to sda2.
> Before Resize:

I don't understand what you did, nor why. Can you please explain?

Cheers,
  Renato Caldas



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 18:27:27 2009
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:57:27 +0530
Subject: Resizing ext4 partitions
In-Reply-To: <1caff7430910171046l525f872ex795c090925e8f688@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480910170949pe2d5b6bjbdadf3c2e6c10a7a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1caff7430910171046l525f872ex795c090925e8f688@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <78323d480910171127n68624h7ee726c442480443@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Renato Caldas
 wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 5:49 PM, A. Mani  wrote:
>> Is it really safe to resize ext4 partitions?

> I don't understand what you did, nor why. Can you please explain?

I was checking resize of ext4 partitions in my test system. Ubuntu
users/devel have reported problems in 9.04 and karmic.

I had made a 5 GB /boot  ext4 partition (sda2) initially and wanted to
reduce it to ~ 2GB. The vfat partition (sda1) (with full install of
freedos) was also resized to take up the resulting free space. All
this was done with the parted magic CD (ver- 4.0).

I think the problem is due to the older version (1.41.5) of e2fsprogs.

Anything below VERSION 1.41.9 is bound to be unsafe.
http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/e2fsprogs-release.html#1.41.9


Best

A. Mani

-- 
A. Mani
ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://www.logicamani.co.cc



From seventhguardian at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 19:41:06 2009
From: seventhguardian at gmail.com (Renato Caldas)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:41:06 +0100
Subject: Resizing ext4 partitions
In-Reply-To: <78323d480910171127n68624h7ee726c442480443@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480910170949pe2d5b6bjbdadf3c2e6c10a7a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1caff7430910171046l525f872ex795c090925e8f688@mail.gmail.com>
	<78323d480910171127n68624h7ee726c442480443@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1caff7430910171241g270a165cy14e941ce9e3901e2@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 7:27 PM, A. Mani  wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Renato Caldas
>  wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 5:49 PM, A. Mani  wrote:
>>> Is it really safe to resize ext4 partitions?
> 
>> I don't understand what you did, nor why. Can you please explain?
>
> I was checking resize of ext4 partitions in my test system. Ubuntu
> users/devel have reported problems in 9.04 and karmic.

Couldn't that be Parted Magic's fault?

> I had made a 5 GB /boot ?ext4 partition (sda2) initially and wanted to
> reduce it to ~ 2GB. The vfat partition (sda1) (with full install of
> freedos) was also resized to take up the resulting free space. All
> this was done with the parted magic CD (ver- 4.0).
>
> I think the problem is due to the older version (1.41.5) of e2fsprogs.
>
> Anything below VERSION 1.41.9 is bound to be unsafe.
> http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/e2fsprogs-release.html#1.41.9

Rawhide's version is e2fsprogs-1.41.9-3.fc12.x86_64, so I don't
understand how this is relevant.



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 20:41:52 2009
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:41:52 +0500
Subject: Resizing ext4 partitions
In-Reply-To: <1caff7430910171241g270a165cy14e941ce9e3901e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480910170949pe2d5b6bjbdadf3c2e6c10a7a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1caff7430910171046l525f872ex795c090925e8f688@mail.gmail.com>
	<78323d480910171127n68624h7ee726c442480443@mail.gmail.com>
	<1caff7430910171241g270a165cy14e941ce9e3901e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <78323d480910171341v3c778a6dwc31a4b57afb271cf@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Renato Caldas
 wrote:
>
> Couldn't that be Parted Magic's fault?

The whole problem seems to be due to e2fsprogs's fault.
Parted Magic/ gparted does do resizing in the correct way.

>> I think the problem is due to the older version (1.41.5) of e2fsprogs.
>>
>> Anything below VERSION 1.41.9 is bound to be unsafe.
>> http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/e2fsprogs-release.html#1.41.9
>
> Rawhide's version is e2fsprogs-1.41.9-3.fc12.x86_64, so I don't
> understand how this is relevant.

ok

But bug #529285 was about the "press Control D to continue or
supply root password for maintenance"  prompt. It was not usable in
any way. If the system has a
problem then it should exit gracefully.  Why has it been closed?

Best

A. Mani



-- 
A. Mani
ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://www.logicamani.co.cc



From seventhguardian at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 20:55:13 2009
From: seventhguardian at gmail.com (Renato Caldas)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:55:13 +0100
Subject: Resizing ext4 partitions
In-Reply-To: <78323d480910171341v3c778a6dwc31a4b57afb271cf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480910170949pe2d5b6bjbdadf3c2e6c10a7a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1caff7430910171046l525f872ex795c090925e8f688@mail.gmail.com>
	<78323d480910171127n68624h7ee726c442480443@mail.gmail.com>
	<1caff7430910171241g270a165cy14e941ce9e3901e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<78323d480910171341v3c778a6dwc31a4b57afb271cf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1caff7430910171355o65a53fd2ob91fbb571b003343@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 9:41 PM, A. Mani  wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Renato Caldas
>  wrote:
>>
>> Couldn't that be Parted Magic's fault?
>
> The whole problem seems to be due to e2fsprogs's fault.
> Parted Magic/ gparted does do resizing in the correct way.

How is that, since you end up with overlapping partitions? AFAIK
e2fsprogs doesn't touch the partition table.

>>> I think the problem is due to the older version (1.41.5) of e2fsprogs.
>>>
>>> Anything below VERSION 1.41.9 is bound to be unsafe.
>>> http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/e2fsprogs-release.html#1.41.9
>>
>> Rawhide's version is e2fsprogs-1.41.9-3.fc12.x86_64, so I don't
>> understand how this is relevant.
>
> ok
>
> But bug #529285 was about the "press Control D to continue or
> supply root password for maintenance" ?prompt. It was not usable in
> any way. If the system has a
> problem then it should exit gracefully. ?Why has it been closed?

If your system is messed up, it may not work. That's expected, and I
can't see how this is a Fedora bug.

Cheers,
  Renato

> Best
>
> A. Mani
>
>
>
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From tim.lauridsen at googlemail.com  Sun Oct 18 09:28:06 2009
From: tim.lauridsen at googlemail.com (Tim Lauridsen)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:28:06 +0200
Subject: Problems with Eclipse
In-Reply-To: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <4ADADFA6.8020803@googlemail.com>

On 10/07/2009 09:10 PM, shmuel siegel wrote:
> Many eclipse dialogs are not working for me. For instance when I try 
> to create a new python project, I can't get past naming the project. 
> Neither the apply nor the finish button do anything. Similarly, for a 
> c project I can't add arguments to the debug launch. Again apply and 
> debug buttons don't do anything. I tried launching eclipse from the 
> command line but there weren't any messages. Any ideas about what is 
> happening? i686 architecture.
>
I see the same in Rawhide, you can work around it, by pressing space, 
just after you have clicked the button.

Tim



From tim.lauridsen at googlemail.com  Sun Oct 18 09:40:47 2009
From: tim.lauridsen at googlemail.com (Tim Lauridsen)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:40:47 +0200
Subject: Problems with Eclipse
In-Reply-To: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <4ACCE794.8030300@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <4ADAE29F.4060700@googlemail.com>

On 10/07/2009 09:10 PM, shmuel siegel wrote:
> Many eclipse dialogs are not working for me. For instance when I try 
> to create a new python project, I can't get past naming the project. 
> Neither the apply nor the finish button do anything. Similarly, for a 
> c project I can't add arguments to the debug launch. Again apply and 
> debug buttons don't do anything. I tried launching eclipse from the 
> command line but there weren't any messages. Any ideas about what is 
> happening? i686 architecture.
>

But it look like these updates fixes the issue

     Updated      eclipse-jdt-1:3.5.0-2.fc12.i686
     Update                   1:3.5.1-1.fc12.i686
     Updated      eclipse-platform-1:3.5.0-2.fc12.i686
     Update                        1:3.5.1-1.fc12.i686
     Updated      eclipse-rcp-1:3.5.0-2.fc12.i686
     Update                   1:3.5.1-1.fc12.i686
     Updated      eclipse-swt-1:3.5.0-2.fc12.i686
     Update                   1:3.5.1-1.fc12.i686

Tim



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 18 11:29:06 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:29:06 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091018 changes
Message-ID: <20091018112906.GA31434@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sun Oct 18 06:15:10 UTC 2009










Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0



From dwalsh at redhat.com  Sun Oct 18 16:54:18 2009
From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:54:18 -0400
Subject: F12-Beta-i686-Live-Edu.iso has selinux problem with sugar browse
In-Reply-To: <4ADA0236.5050207@bendbroadband.com>
References: <20091017160016.479A9619352@hormel.redhat.com>
	<4ADA0236.5050207@bendbroadband.com>
Message-ID: <4ADB483A.6060901@redhat.com>

On 10/17/2009 01:43 PM, Thomas C Gilliard wrote:
> F12-Beta-i686-Live-Edu.iso has 2 problems:
> 
> 1.) selinux policy has to be set to selenix=0 for sugar browse to work
> using these methods
>    a.)   selinux=0 at boot screen
>    b.) changing selinux policy in gnome first then logging into sugar
> 2.) logging out of sugar and back into gnome. Sugar mouse cursor is
> retained in gnome desktop.
> 
> selinux policy should be changed to allow sugar activities to work.
> 
> fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com wrote:
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>>    1. Re: f12, alpha versus beta? (Jesse Keating)
>>    2. Re: f12, alpha versus beta - how to tell ? (Jesse Keating)
>>    3. Re: f12, alpha versus beta - how to tell ? (Robert P. J. Day)
>>    4. Re: f12, alpha versus beta? (Robert P. J. Day)
>>    5. rawhide report: 20091017 changes (Rawhide Report)
>>    6. Re: f12, alpha versus beta? (Patrick O'Callaghan)
>>    7. Re: f12, alpha versus beta? (Clyde E. Kunkel)
>>    8. Re: f12, alpha versus beta - how to tell ? (Bruno Wolff III)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:55:38 -0700
>> From: Jesse Keating 
>> Subject: Re: f12, alpha versus beta?
>> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> Message-ID: <1255766138.25237.1.camel at localhost.localdomain>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 01:00 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>  
>>>   a valid philosophy but the linux kernel sees it differently, so it's
>>> not like there's just one true way, but how fedora chooses to do this
>>> is perfectly valid, thanks.     
>>
>> If we were dealing with just a distribution of source, it could be
>> different.  But since we have to compile that source, and then compile
>> those compiles into a binary install tree, there are lots of chances for
>> things to go wrong, and so we test what will go out the door, rather
>> than what we hope will be the same in the future if we do another
>> compose.
>>
>> I've always taken offense to the term "release candidate" when there is
>> no possible way the candidate could ever be released as is.
>>
>>   
> 
What AVC messages are you seeing in /var/log/audit/audit.log?

Try to run wit enforcing=0 rather then selinux=0 so we can see all of te AVC messages.



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Sun Oct 18 21:31:46 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:01:46 -0430
Subject: F12-Beta-i686-Live-Edu.iso has selinux problem with sugar browse
In-Reply-To: <4ADA0236.5050207@bendbroadband.com>
References: <20091017160016.479A9619352@hormel.redhat.com>
	<4ADA0236.5050207@bendbroadband.com>
Message-ID: <1255901506.8140.93.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

Why are you replying to a digest? If you want to post a question, just
post it directly. Plus the section of digest you quote has nothing
whatever to do with your question.

poc



From P.Glassenbury at cosc.canterbury.ac.nz  Mon Oct 19 00:04:10 2009
From: P.Glassenbury at cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Peter Glassenbury (CSSE))
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:04:10 +1300
Subject: F12 -hang on boot - NetworkManger problem?
In-Reply-To: <4AD81086.2080301@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4AD6822D.8080706@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
	<1255572955.24496.51.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>
	<4AD6B316.7030507@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
	<20091015120540.GA18310@mail.scottro.net>
	<4AD81086.2080301@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4ADBACFA.5010206@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/15/2009 05:35 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 06:28:54PM +1300, Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
>>> Craig White wrote:
>>>
>>> So the workaround works -- is it a bug to be reported?
>>> Pete
>> As I mentioned, it was reported 5 years ago.  :)
>>
>> So, it's a known issue. 
>>
>> You could try to reopen it--I *think* it was reported against RH, but
>> the problem exists in Fedora and CentOS clients. 
>> Hrrm, I have to throw Ubuntu or something on a VM and see if it is a
>> problem for them too.
>>
>> As mentioned, I couldn't find the bug with a quick search, but it
>> definitely is there. 
> 
> If you can't find it, please file a new bug report and pass the bug
> report number to this list. Some bugs do get lost at times but we need
> to fix the problem.
> 
> Rahul
> 

Scott Robbins said
 >Not sure its the same, but here is a (recent) BZ:
 >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502072

As scott said in the above two lines, this bug appears to be
active for F11 and is the same as the one I had.
The workaround is the same and worked.

I have added a comment that the same bug is F12rawhide but
don't know what I am supposed to do to make it searchable as
an F12rawhide bug.. (do I copy and paste the same bug but
change the version to 12 ?? )

Pete
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pete at cosc.canterbury.ac.nz		University of Canterbury
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From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct 19 00:29:09 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:29:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 2009-10-19 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting Agenda
In-Reply-To: <460611763.675391255912034048.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1408329663.675481255912149216.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2009-10-19
# Time: 16:00 UTC (12 EDT)
# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 

Thanks to those who contributed test feedback leading up to, or including the Beta release candidates. ?This includes contributions to fedora-test-list, irc and to the wiki [1]. ?Per task#68 in the Fedora 12 schedule [2], the beta is on track for release on Tuesday, Oct 20. ?

Come join the QA meeting tomorrow. ?See proposed discussion agenda below.

?? ? ? ?1. Previous meeting follow-up:
?? ? ? ?https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20091012#Action_items
?? ? ? ?
?? ? ? ?2. Beta test review ?https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00303.html
?? ? ? ?
?? ? ? ?3. AutoQA Updates from wwoods and kparal
?? ? ? ?
?? ? ? ?4. How_to_Debug_ Update from Viking-Ice

?? ? ? ?5. Upcoming QA events 

?? ? ? ? ? * 2009-10-20 - SELinux confined user - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-20
?? ? ? ? ? * 2009-10-22 - Power Management - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-22
?? ? ? ? ? * 2009-10-23 - Blocker Bug Day (F12Blocker) #1
?? ? ? ?
?? ? ? ?6. Open discussion - 

Thanks,
James

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_Beta_RC2_Install
[2] http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng-tasks.html



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 19 12:42:37 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:42:37 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091019 changes
Message-ID: <20091019124237.GA21711@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Mon Oct 19 06:15:05 UTC 2009










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From mmalik at redhat.com  Mon Oct 19 15:24:43 2009
From: mmalik at redhat.com (Milos Malik)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:24:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Test-Announce] 2009-10-20 Confined Users Test Day
In-Reply-To: <1700412184.434461255965630735.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1329863194.436591255965883798.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

Hi friends,

I would like to invite you to join Confined Users test day which will be
held tomorrow, 2009-10-20. Please come out to Freenode IRC #fedora-test-day
or #fedora-selinux and help us improve SELinux policy. You will need a machine
with updated Fedora 12 or rawhide (virtualized machines are welcomed too :-)).
Testing is pretty straightforward: all requirements and test cases are described
in details here[1]. 

SELinux Confined Users is a feature where SELinux role is assigned to each user
and where the SELinux policy controls what the user can do/access on the system.

Dan Walsh and Miroslav Grepl will help us to solve issues.

Thanks to all who come along to help test!

Milos Malik


P.S.: There is no bravery in running Fedora/RHEL with disabled SELinux ;-)

1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-20



From johannbg at hi.is  Mon Oct 19 17:26:13 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:26:13 +0000
Subject: [Test-Announce] 2009-10-20 Confined Users Test Day
In-Reply-To: <1329863194.436591255965883798.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1329863194.436591255965883798.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4ADCA135.8010100@hi.is>

On 10/19/2009 03:24 PM, Milos Malik wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
>   
..
> P.S.: There is no bravery in running Fedora/RHEL with disabled SELinux ;-)
>   

Setting SELinux to enforce mode takes out all the thrill of being an IT
Daredevil :)

JBG
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From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct 19 18:08:45 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:08:45 -0400
Subject: [Test-Announce] 2009-10-20 Confined Users Test Day
In-Reply-To: <1329863194.436591255965883798.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1329863194.436591255965883798.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1255975725.2354.52.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 11:24 -0400, Milos Malik wrote:
> Hi friends,
> 
> I would like to invite you to join Confined Users test day which will be
> held tomorrow, 2009-10-20. Please come out to Freenode IRC #fedora-test-day
> or #fedora-selinux and help us improve SELinux policy. You will need a machine
> with updated Fedora 12 or rawhide (virtualized machines are welcomed too :-)).
> Testing is pretty straightforward: all requirements and test cases are described
> in details here[1]. 
> 
> SELinux Confined Users is a feature where SELinux role is assigned to each user
> and where the SELinux policy controls what the user can do/access on the system.
> 
> Dan Walsh and Miroslav Grepl will help us to solve issues.
> 
> Thanks to all who come along to help test!
> 
> Milos Malik
> 
> 
> P.S.: There is no bravery in running Fedora/RHEL with disabled SELinux ;-)
> 
> 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-20

I like the challenge! :)  Thanks for taking the time to plan and prepare
this test day.  I've made some minor wiki modifications to the test day
page.  Would it make sense to create individual test case pages for each
of the listed test cases?  We typically recommend using the template:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:QA/Test_Case

Thanks,
James

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From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct 19 20:09:09 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:09:09 -0400
Subject: 2009-10-19 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting Recap
In-Reply-To: <1408329663.675481255912149216.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1408329663.675481255912149216.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1255982949.2354.154.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Meeting notes and IRC transcript also available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20091019.

==================================
#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting
==================================


Meeting started by jlaska at 15:58:44 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-19/fedora-meeting.2009-10-19-15.58.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* gathering in the lobby  (jlaska, 15:58:52)

* Previous meeting follow-up  (jlaska, 16:03:18)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_activity.cgi?id=507678
    (jlaska, 16:04:51)
  * "36 issues were marked as beta blockers prior to freeze, 16 after
    the freeze." -adamw  (jlaska, 16:05:23)
  * jlaska manually inspecting F12Beta change history to see if any
    trends / problems exist in how we escalate blocker bugs  (jlaska,
    16:08:28)
  * autoqa-devel mailing list has been requested -
    https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1733  (jlaska,
    16:10:27)
  * HELP: New mailing list requested for autoqa development discussion -
    see https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1733
    (jlaska, 16:11:45)

* Beta test review  (jlaska, 16:12:47)
  * LINK:
    https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00303.html
    (jlaska, 16:13:21)
  * Fedora 12 Beta Install test matrix -
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_Beta_RC2_Install
    (jlaska, 16:15:21)
  * Southern_Gentlem directed the team towards a different test matrix -
    http://spins.fedoraunity.org/Members/Southern_Gentleman/Fedora%2012%20%20beta%20TestMatrix
    (jlaska, 16:16:39)
  * lili asked if reducing the number of test cases would reduce quality
    (jlaska, 16:19:00)
  * adam suggests creating links to a sorted list of "What's remaining
    for testing" in lili's emails  (jlaska, 16:26:22)
  * Possible improvement - integration between lili and
    Southern_Gentlem's test matrices  (jlaska, 16:28:35)
  * Possible improvement - including a link to "Remaining testing" when
    sending emails  (jlaska, 16:28:53)
  * Southern_Gentlem suggests having multiple testers provides better
    hardware diversity in testing  (jlaska, 16:31:26)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528537   (kparal,
    16:32:28)

* AutoQA Updates from wwoods and kparal  (jlaska, 16:36:50)
  * Instead of patching autotest to include a link back to test results,
    plans to document "How to find test logs" in the works  (jlaska,
    16:40:17)
  * waiting on production hardware delivery  (jlaska, 16:41:27)
  * Preliminary hook/watcher for koji package builds available -
    https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/browser/hooks/post-koji-build/watch-koji-builds.py
    (jlaska, 16:44:06)
  * Additional work needed on koji package watcher/hook - only prints
    list of builds, needs integration into autoqa  (jlaska, 16:45:43)
  * jkeating reminded to keep an eye towards future integration with the
    message bus  (jlaska, 16:50:22)
  * LINK:
    http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/autoqa.git?a=tree;f=tests/rpmguard
    (kparal, 16:52:38)
  * #1 - name: the script for displaying important differences between
    rpms, originally called 'packagediff', was  renamed to 'rpmguard'
    (jlaska, 16:53:00)
  * #2 - location: the autoqa project has provided hosting for the
    rpmguard (see
    http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/autoqa.git?a=tree;f=tests/rpmguard)
    (jlaska, 16:53:35)
  * HELP: if interested, help test rpmguard (using latest rpmdiff from
    svn)  (jlaska, 16:55:43)

* How_to_Debug_ Update from Viking-Ice  (jlaska, 16:57:39)
  * rjune assisted adamw in testing the use of a wiki template  (jlaska,
    16:59:44)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Dracut_problems2
    (jlaska, 16:59:48)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:How_to_debug2
    (jlaska, 16:59:54)
  * ACTION: jlaska to rename other debug pages (see
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Debugging) to be consistent
    with "How to debug  problems".  Update back-links also
    (jlaska, 17:06:47)
  * existing Debugging pages using older name scheme will need to be
    moved  (jlaska, 17:08:56)

* Open Discussion -   (jlaska, 17:09:04)
  * Oxf13 asked for extra eyes/fingers as crit-path tag requests come in
    for final  (jlaska, 17:10:37)
  * LINK:
    https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/timeline?ticket=on&changeset=on&milestone=on&wiki=on&max=50&daysback=90&format=rss
    - rss feed to monitor tag requests  (adamw, 17:13:52)
  * rats_install tests operate against internal redhat.com mirror of
    rawhide ... and are failing due to what looks like out of sync
    content  (jlaska, 17:17:25)
  * LINK:
    https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-results/2009-October/001652.html
    (jlaska, 17:17:39)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs   (adamw,
    17:18:31)
  * ACTION: jlaska - help clean out remaining promised Common_F12_Bugs
    (jlaska, 17:19:59)
  * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/l4kma5 - Bugs needing Common_F12_Bugs
    documentation  (jlaska, 17:20:23)
  * if you're aware of any bug that's in the released beta images that
    you think should be documented there, please either add it (there's
    guidelines on layout in the wiki page source) or add the
    'CommonBugs' keyword to the bug report  (jlaska, 17:20:44)
  * talking points for Fedora 12 Beta awesome-ness -
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_Beta_Announcement  (jlaska,
    17:22:01)

Meeting ended at 18:09:16 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* jlaska to rename other debug pages (see
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Debugging) to be consistent
  with "How to debug  problems".  Update back-links also
* jlaska - help clean out remaining promised Common_F12_Bugs




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jlaska
  * jlaska to rename other debug pages (see
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Debugging) to be consistent
    with "How to debug  problems".  Update back-links also
  * jlaska - help clean out remaining promised Common_F12_Bugs
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




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* jlaska (174)
* wwoods (52)
* Oxf13 (52)
* adamw (50)
* kparal (28)
* Viking-Ice (13)
* Southern_Gentlem (11)
* lili_ (10)
* nirik (10)
* zodbot (8)
* mcepl (3)
* buggbot (2)
* mbonnet (2)
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From dennisml at conversis.de  Mon Oct 19 20:51:01 2009
From: dennisml at conversis.de (Dennis J.)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:51:01 +0200
Subject: thunderbird / preferred web browser
Message-ID: <4ADCD135.3040703@conversis.de>

Hi,
How does one configure a custom preferred web browser that opens when 
clicking on a link in an email in thunderbird?
I installed a trunk build of Firefox in /opt/firefox but when I specify 
"/opt/firefox/firefox -P exp" as a preferred application then I only get a 
new window with the default mozilla homepage and not the url i clicked on.
I also called a shell-script that dumps $* into a logfile which ends up 
empty so I wonder how that URL is passed to the called app if not as a 
parameter?

Regards,
   Dennis



From johannbg at hi.is  Mon Oct 19 21:07:46 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:07:46 +0000
Subject: thunderbird / preferred web browser
In-Reply-To: <4ADCD135.3040703@conversis.de>
References: <4ADCD135.3040703@conversis.de>
Message-ID: <4ADCD522.7030401@hi.is>

On 10/19/2009 08:51 PM, Dennis J. wrote:
> Hi,
> How does one configure a custom preferred web browser that opens when 
> clicking on a link in an email in thunderbird?
> I installed a trunk build of Firefox in /opt/firefox but when I 
> specify "/opt/firefox/firefox -P exp" as a preferred application then 
> I only get a new window with the default mozilla homepage and not the 
> url i clicked on.
> I also called a shell-script that dumps $* into a logfile which ends 
> up empty so I wonder how that URL is passed to the called app if not 
> as a parameter?

Start Thunderbird and..

Edit --> Preferences --> Advanced --> Config Editor --> Filter --> 
network.protocol-handler.app.http enter path to browser exec.. for 
example  /usr/bin/firefox

or add an entry "user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", 
"/usr/bin/firefox"); " to the prefs.js file....

JBG



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct 20 00:27:07 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:27:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Test-Announce] 2009-10-20 Confined Users Test Day
In-Reply-To: <1746151923.810551255998353958.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <488234036.810651255998427847.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

----- "James Laska"  wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 11:24 -0400, Milos Malik wrote:
> > Hi friends,
> > 
> > I would like to invite you to join Confined Users test day which
> will be
> > held tomorrow, 2009-10-20. Please come out to Freenode IRC
> #fedora-test-day
> > or #fedora-selinux and help us improve SELinux policy. You will need
> a machine
> > with updated Fedora 12 or rawhide (virtualized machines are welcomed
> too :-)).
> > Testing is pretty straightforward: all requirements and test cases
> are described
> > in details here[1]. 
> > 
> > SELinux Confined Users is a feature where SELinux role is assigned
> to each user
> > and where the SELinux policy controls what the user can do/access on
> the system.
> > 
> > Dan Walsh and Miroslav Grepl will help us to solve issues.
> > 
> > Thanks to all who come along to help test!
> > 
> > Milos Malik
> > 
> > 
> > P.S.: There is no bravery in running Fedora/RHEL with disabled
> SELinux ;-)
> > 
> > 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-20
> 
> I like the challenge! :)  Thanks for taking the time to plan and
> prepare
> this test day.  I've made some minor wiki modifications to the test
> day
> page.  Would it make sense to create individual test case pages for
> each
> of the listed test cases?  We typically recommend using the template:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:QA/Test_Case

Just a heads up, at the suggestion of Adam, I posted QA spin [1] images that include the following test day packages:

  selinux-policy-targeted
  policycoreutils-gui
  setroubleshoot
  audit
  xguest

Links to the live images and sha256sum's are on the wiki page.

Thanks,
James

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA_Test_Day_Spin



From bruno at wolff.to  Tue Oct 20 02:19:34 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:19:34 -0500
Subject: [Test-Announce] 2009-10-20 Confined Users Test Day
In-Reply-To: <1255975725.2354.52.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1329863194.436591255965883798.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1255975725.2354.52.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20091020021934.GB27259@wolff.to>

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 14:08:45 -0400,
  James Laska  wrote:
> 
> I like the challenge! :)  Thanks for taking the time to plan and prepare
> this test day.  I've made some minor wiki modifications to the test day
> page.  Would it make sense to create individual test case pages for each
> of the listed test cases?  We typically recommend using the template:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:QA/Test_Case

I mentioned this to Dan a while back, but one thing I would find nice is
a tool to reset your policy back to the default for (supposedly) installed
policy. When things get stuffed up it's possible that you get to where you
can't update the active policy. Switching to another policy (say minimal)
and back is two full file relabels. I found that nuking the active policy
in an unsupported manner and yum reinstalling the current policy relabels
a much smaller number of files and seems to be a lot quicker.
I don't know exactly what I did that caused problems, but the three machines
I yum updated to f12 all had issues handling updates to the targeted policy.
I do have local modules installed and some local fcontext rules, that may
have been a factor in this.
semanage is limited you can't change everything at once and the result of
a single semanage run needs to be consistant and you can't always do that.
I'll try to go through the test cases eventually, but it probably won't
be tomorrow.



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 20 11:37:53 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:37:53 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091020 changes
Message-ID: <20091020113753.GA7762@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Tue Oct 20 06:15:06 UTC 2009










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New package mathgl
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* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.1-1
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* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-1
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* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1
- See http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ftp-release-list/2009-October/msg00049.html


epiphany-extensions-2.28.1-1.fc12
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


file-roller-2.28.1-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


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* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 5.28.1-1
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* Sun Oct 18 2009 Jakub Jelinek  4.4.2-4
- update from gcc-4_4-branch
  - PRs c++/37204, c++/37766, c++/37875, c++/38798, c++/40092,
	libstdc++/40654, libstdc++/40826
- fix VTA ICE on invalid pointer arithmetics (#529512)

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Jakub Jelinek  4.4.2-3
- fix VTA handling in the scheduler (PR debug/41535)
- fix up %check section to be able to find ecj1

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Jakub Jelinek  4.4.2-2
- update from gcc-4_4-branch
  - PR target/40913
- VTA backports
  - PR debug/41717
- fix Ada .eh_frame generation (PR debug/40521)

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Jakub Jelinek  4.4.2-1
- update from gcc-4_4-branch
  - GCC 4.4.2 release
  - PRs middle-end/22072, target/41665
- don't emit -Wpadded warnings for builtin structures
- don't generate .eh_frame, but generate .debug_frame when -g and none of
  -fasynchronous-unwind-tables/-fexceptions/-funwind-tables is used
  (PR debug/40521)

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Jakub Jelinek  4.4.1-22
- update from gcc-4_4-branch
  - PRs target/26515, target/38948
  - fix s390{,x} BLKmode symbol handling
  - fix i?86 testqi splitter (#528206, PR target/41680)
- VTA backports
  - introduce debug temps (PRs debug/41264, debug/41338, debug/41343,
    debug/41447, target/41693)
  - build debug stmts on updates (PR debug/41616)
  - fix another with/without -save-temps debug info difference
    (#526841, PR preprocessor/41543)
  - fix invalid ranges in .debug_loc section (PR debug/41695)

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Jakub Jelinek  4.4.1-21
- update from gcc-4_4-branch
  - fix s390{,x} prefetch for pre-z10 CPUs (#524552)
- VTA backports
  - fix debug info differences with/without -save-temps
    (PR preprocessor/41445)
- fix ICE with small BLKmode returning call (#516028,
  PR rtl-optimization/41646)


gnome-games-2.28.1-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


gnome-media-2.28.1-3.fc12
-------------------------
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.1-2
- Cosmetic fixes to the layout of gnome-volume-control
- Fix the --page commandline option

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.1-3
- Fix some visual glitches at startup


gnome-packagekit-2.28.1-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Richard Hughes   - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1
- Translation updates
- Simulate removal correctly to fix removing packages
- Ignore cleanup and finished packages when we a simulating remove or install
- If command line contains (deleted) the original binary is invalid. Fixes #524873
- Never show the role text in the GpkWatch tooltip
- Run the helpers with interaction 'hide-finished,hide-warnings' as we are handling failure


gnome-power-manager-2.28.1-1.fc12
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Richard Hughes   - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1
- Translation updates
- Remove upstreamed patch
- Help the kernel through its sleep key confusion
- Correctly set the focus on the last used device in gnome-power-statistics
- Do not hide some radio buttons depending on the current machine state
- Throttle screensaver before suspend/hibernate


gok-2.28.1-1.fc12
-----------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-4.fc12
-------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-4
- Fix pulsesink not advertising the StreamVolume interface

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-3
- Finally fix pulsesink volume lowering problems (#488532)


gucharmap-2.28.1-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


gwget-1.0.4-1.fc12
------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 1.0.4-1
- Update to 1.0.4, fixes crash with GTK >= 2.18

* Sun Oct 04 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 1.0.3-1
- Update to 1.0.3
- Remove Vincent's patch as it was upstreamed


lensfun-0.2.4-1.fc12
--------------------
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Rex Dieter  0.2.4-1
- lensfun-0.2.4 (#529506)


libbonoboui-2.24.2-2.fc12
-------------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.24.2-2
- Fix a possible infinite loop


libdaemon-0.14-1.fc12
---------------------
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Lennart Poettering  - 0.14-1
- New release 0.14


libgpod-0.7.2-5.fc12
--------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.7.2-4
- Update UTF-16 string parsing patch

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.7.2-5
- Fix UTF-16 string parsing patch again

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.7.2-3
- Fix crasher when parsing UTF-16 strings with a BOM (#517642)


libtool-2.2.6-15.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Jakub Jelinek  2.2.6-15
- Rebuild for gcc 4.4.2

* Wed Aug 12 2009 Ville Skytt?  - 2.2.6-14
- Use lzma compressed upstream tarball.


libvirt-0.7.1-13.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 0.7.1-13
- Misc fixes to qemu machine types handling
- A couple of XML formatting fixes

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 0.7.1-12
- Fix restore of qemu guest using raw save format (#523158)


livecd-tools-030-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Warren Togami  - 030-1
- Tell dracut not to ask for LUKS passwords or activate mdraid sets
- Silence the /etc/modprobe.conf deprecation warning


moblin-panel-people-0.0.7-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Peter Robinson  0.0.7-1
- New upstream 0.0.7 release


mousetweaks-2.28.1-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


orca-2.28.1-1.fc12
------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


paps-0.6.8-11.fc12
------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Akira TAGOH  - 0.6.9-11
- Fix code that deal with CPI parameter to be accurate. (#524883)


poppler-0.12.1-1.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.12.1-1
- poppler-0.12.1
- deprecate xpdf/pdftohtml Conflicts/Obsoletes


qemu-0.11.0-7.fc12
------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 2:0.11.0-7
- Fix potential segfault from too small MSR_COUNT (#528901)


seahorse-2.28.1-1.fc12
----------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Tomas Bzatek  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


seahorse-plugins-2.28.1-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Tomas Bzatek  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


syncevolution-0.9-2.fc12
------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Peter Robinson  - 0.9-2
- Enable the gtk and moblin guis


system-config-httpd-1.4.6-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Phil Knirsch  1.4.6-1
- Some more translation updates
- Renamed sr at Latn.po to sr at latin.po (#426593)
- Switched to hashlib from md5

* Fri Oct 02 2009 Phil Knirsch  1.4.5-1
- Lotsa language updates
- Several fixes from Radek Novacek for the S-c-tools cleanup project:
- Resolves: #493830,#493841,#493895,#508068


system-config-kdump-2.0.1-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Roman Rakus  - 2.0.1-1
- Update to version 2.0.1


tuned-0.2.5-0.1.fc12
--------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  0.2.5-0.3
- new release


vinagre-2.28.1-1.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


vino-2.28.1-1.fc12
------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


webkitgtk-1.1.15.2-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1.1.15.2-1
- Update to 1.1.15.2, which has multiple crash and other fixes
- See https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-gtk/2009-October/000040.html


yaboot-1.3.14-22.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Tony Breed  - 1.3.14-20
- Only require hfsutils on fedora and rhel <= 5

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Tony Breed  - 1.3.14-21
- Explicitly build a DEBUG=1 version of yaboot to aid in debugging

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Tony Breed  - 1.3.14-22
- Calling of_open() on a LINUX_NATIVE parttions seesm to work but end up with a
  garbage file.  Add check to of_open to skip these parttions (#526021).


Summary:
Added Packages: 1
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 47



From jkeating at redhat.com  Tue Oct 20 13:56:32 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:56:32 -0700
Subject: Fedora 12 Beta now available!
Message-ID: <1256046992.4242.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Fedora is a leading edge, free and open source operating system that
continues to deliver innovative features to many users, with a new
release every six months. We have reached the Fedora 12 Beta, the last
important development milestone of Fedora 12. Only critical bug fixes
will be pushed as updates leading up to the general release of Fedora
12, scheduled to be released in mid-November. We invite you to join us
and participate in making Fedora 12 a solid release by downloading,
testing, and providing us your valuable feedback.

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

Of course, this is a beta release, some problems may still be lurking.
Should you trip across one of them, be sure it gets fixed before release
by reporting your discovery at:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/

Thank you!

What's New in Fedora 12?

* Optimized performance - All software packages on 32-bit (x86_32)
architecture have been compiled for i686 systems with special
optimization for Intel Atom processors used in many netbooks but without
losing compatibility with the overwhelming majority of CPUs. There is a
list of the rare CPUs which will no longer be supported.

* Smaller and faster updates - In Fedora 11, the optional yum-presto
plugin, developed by Fedora contributor Jonathan Dieter, reduced update
size by transmitting only the changes in the updated packages. Now, the
plugin is installed by default. Also, RPMs now use XZ rather than gzip
for compression, providing smaller package sizes without the memory and
CPU penalties associated with bzip2. This lets us fit more software into
each Fedora image, and uses less space on mirrors, making their
administrators' lives a little easier. Thanks to the Fedora
infrastructure team for their work in generating delta RPMs.

* NetworkManager broadband and other enhancements - NetworkManager,
originally developed by Red Hat's Dan Williams, was introduced in Fedora
7 and has become the de facto network configuration solution for
distributions everywhere. Enhancements to NetworkManager make both
system-wide connections and mobile broadband connections easier than
ever. Signal strength and network selection are available for choosing
the best mobile broadband connection when you're on the road. Bluetooth
PAN support offers a simple click through process to access the Internet
from your mobile phone. NetworkManager can now configure always-on and
static address connections directly from the desktop. PolicyKit
integration has been added so configuration management can be done via
central policy where needed. IPv6 support has also been improved.

* Next-generation (Ogg) Theora video - For several years, Theora, the
open and free format not encumbered by known patents has provided a way
for freedom-loving users to share video. Fedora 12 includes the new
Theora 1.1, which achieves near-H.264 quality, meeting the expectations
of demanding users with crisp, vibrant media in both streaming and
downloadable form. Thanks to the work of the Xiph.Org Foundation's
Christopher "Monty" Montgomery, sponsored by Red Hat, other Xiph
developers, and the contribution of Mozilla.org, Firefox 3.5 can deliver
free media on the web out of the box, using the Theora video and Vorbis
audio formats even better than the previous release of Fedora.

* Graphics support improvements - Fedora 12 introduces experimental 3D
support for AMD Radeon HD 2400 and later graphics cards. To try it out,
install the mesa-dri-drivers-experimental package. On many cards, this
support should allow desktop effects to be used. Kernel mode setting
(KMS) support, which was introduced on AMD hardware in Fedora 10 and
extended to Intel hardware in Fedora 11, is now extended to NVIDIA
hardware as well, meaning the great majority of systems now benefit from
the smooth, fully-graphical startup sequence made possible by KMS. The
Fedora graphical startup sequence now works better on systems with
multiple monitors. Also on multiple monitor systems, the desktop will
now automatically be spread across all monitors by default, rather than
having all monitors display the same output, including on NVIDIA chips
(where multiple monitor spanning was not possible without manual
configuration changes in Fedora 11). Systems with NVIDIA graphics chips
also gain initial support for suspend and resume functionality via the
default Nouveau driver. Initial support for the new DisplayPort display
connector has been added for Intel graphics chips. Support for Nvidia
and ATI systems is already under rapid development and will be included
in the next release of Fedora. Thanks to the Red Hat Xorg team including
Adam Jackson (X server), Kristian H?gsberg (Intel driver), Dave Airlie
and Jerome Glisse (Radeon driver for AMD), and Ben Skeggs (Nouveau
driver for NVIDIA).

* Virtualization improvements - Not content with all the improvements in
Fedora 11, we've kicked virtualization based on KVM up another notch in
Fedora 12. There are extensive improvements in performance, management,
resource sharing, and still more security enhancements. A new library
(libguestfs) and an interactive tool (guestfish) are now available for
directly accessing and modifying virtual machine disk images.

* Automatic reporting of crashes and SELinux issues - Abrt, a tool to
help non-power users report crashes to Bugzilla with a few mouse clicks,
is now enabled by default. Abrt collects detailed information
automatically and helps developers identify and resolve issues faster,
improving the quality of individual upstream components and Fedora. The
SELinux alert monitoring tool has also added the ability to report
SELinux issues to Bugzilla quickly and easily with just a couple of
clicks.

* New Dracut initrd generation tool - Up until Fedora 11, the boot
system (initial ram disk or initrd) used to boot Fedora was monolithic,
very distribution specific and didn't provide much flexibility. This has
been replaced with Dracut, an initial ram disk generation tool with an
event-based framework designed to be distribution-independent thanks to
the Dracut team including Harald Hoyer, Jeremy Katz, Dave Jones and many
others. It has been also adopted by OLPC which uses Fedora; OLPC modules
for Dracut are available in the Fedora repository.

* PackageKit plugins - PackageKit now has a plugin which can install an
appropriate package when a user tries to run a command from a missing
package. Another new plugin allows installation of software packages
from a web browser. Thanks to Red Hat's Richard Hughes and the
PackageKit team.

* Bluetooth on-demand - Bluetooth services are automatically started
when needed and stopped 30 seconds after last device use, reducing
initial startup time and resource use when Bluetooth is not in active
use. Thanks to Red Hat's Bastien Nocera.

* Moblin graphical interface for netbooks - The Moblin graphical
interface and applications are fully integrated thanks to Peter
Robinson, a Fedora Project volunteer, and others. To use it, just
install the Moblin Desktop Environment package group using yum or the
graphical software management tools, and choose Moblin from the login
manager. A F12 Moblin Fedora Remix (installable Live CD) will also be
available.

* PulseAudio enhancements - Red Hat's Lennart Poettering and several
others have made significant improvements to the PulseAudio system.
Improved mixer logic makes volume control more fine-grained and
reliable. Integration with the Rygel UPnP media server means you can
stream audio directly from your system to any UPnP / DLNA client, such
as a Playstation 3. Hotplug support has been made more intelligent, so
if you configure a device as the default output for a stream, unplug
that device -- causing the stream(s) to be moved to another output
device -- and later replug it, the stream is moved back to the preferred
device. Finally, Bluetooth audio support means pairing with any
Bluetooth audio device makes it available for use through PulseAudio.

* Lower process privileges - In order to mitigate the impact of security
vulnerabilities, permissions have been hardened for many files and
system directories and process privileges have been lowered for a number
of core components that require super user privileges. Red Hat's Steve
Grubb has developed a new library, libcap-ng, and integrated it into
many core system components to improve the security of Fedora.

* SELinux sandbox - It is now possible to confine applications' access
to the system and run them in a secure sandbox that takes advantage of
the sophisticated capabilities of SELinux. Dan Walsh, SELinux developer
at Red Hat, explains the details at
http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/31146.html

* Open Broadcom firmware - The openfwwf open source Broadcom firmware is
included by default. This means wireless networking will be available
out of the box on some Broadcom chipsets.

* Hybrid live images - The Live images provided in this release can be
directly imaged onto a USB stick using dd (or any equivalent tool) to
create bootable Live USB keys. The Fedora Live USB Creator for Windows
and the livecd-tools for Fedora are still recommended for data
persistence and non-destructive writes. Thanks to Jeremy Katz.

* Better webcam support - While Fedora 11 improved webcam support, in
Fedora 12 you can expect even better video quality, especially for less
expensive webcams. Red Hat's Hans de Goede, developer of the libv4l
library, has more details on his continuous upstream webcam support
enhancements at http://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/6989.html.

* GNOME 2.28 - The latest version of the GNOME desktop includes the
lighter Gnote replacement for Tomboy as the default note application,
and Empathy replaces Pidgin as the default instant messenger. The new
volume control application, first seen in Fedora 11, has been improved
to restore some of the popular functionality from earlier releases
without making the interface too complex.

* GNOME Shell preview - Fedora 12 includes an early version of GNOME
Shell, which will become the default interface for GNOME 3.0 and beyond.
To try it, install the gnome-shell package, and use the Desktop Effects
configuration tool to enable it. It will only work correctly from the
GNOME desktop environment, not others such as KDE or Xfce. This is a
preview technology, and some video cards may not be supported.

* KDE 4.3 - The new KDE features an updated "Air" theme and fully
configurable keyboard shortcuts in Plasma, improved performance and new
desktop effects in the window manager, a new bug reporting tool, and a
configuration tool for the LIRC infra-red remote control system.

* Cool new stuff for developers beginning with Eclipse Galileo, which
includes more plugins than ever before. Perl 6 is now included, along
with PHP 5.3. For Haskell developers, the Haskell Platform now provides
a standardized set of libraries and tools. But one of the biggest
changes for developers is that most of the nice new features of Fedora
12, from Bluetooth to WebCams is implemented through underlying
libraries, and many of the improvements will be included simply by
relinking your application. Also available in this release are SystemTap
1.0 for improved instrumenting and debugging of binaries, complete with
Eclipse integration, and the newest NetBeans IDE for Java development.

* Cool new stuff for sysadmins includes added functionality for
clustered Samba services (including active/active configurations) over
GFS2; and the ability to boot a cluster of Fedora systems from a single,
shared root file system.

* Multi-Pointer X - The update to X.Org server 1.7 introduces the X
Input Extension version 2.0 (XI2), with much work contributed by Red
Hat's Peter Hutterer. This extension provides a new client API for
handling input devices and also Multi-Pointer X (MPX) functionality. MPX
functionality allows X to cope with many inputs of arbitrary types
simultaneously, a prerequisite for (among others) multitouch-based
desktops and multi-user interaction on a single screen. This is
low-level work that applications and desktop environments will
incrementally take advantage of in future releases. More details are
available in the Release Notes and in the XI2 tag of Peter Hutterer's
blog at http://who-t.blogspot.com/search/label/xi2

A full feature list is available on the wiki at

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/FeatureList

OK, go get it. You know you can't wait.

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

Draft release notes and guides for several languages are available at

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/drafts.html

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 14:52:44 2009
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (Petrus de Calguarium)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:52:44 -0600
Subject: Fedora 12 Beta now available!
References: <1256046992.4242.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: 

Jesse Keating wrote:

> Kernel mode setting (KMS) support, which was
> introduced on AMD hardware in Fedora 10 and
> extended to Intel hardware in Fedora 11

KMS never worked and still does not work on F11 on 
Intel laptop 915GM i686 PAE.

I reported the bug back in March (see now closed bug 
488824), but it was simply ignored. KMS remains 
unusable on this machine to this day on F11 and Desktop 
Effects are automatically disabled and cannot be 
enabled manually, not on 915GM, nor on my desktop Intel 
965G. The Intel graphical system is sorely handicapped 
in F11 with Intel.

As a result, with the release of F12?, I migrated both 
of my systems and closed the bug, since no action had 
ever been taken nor response to the bug given.

I closed the bug after I migrated my machines to the 
sensational F12?, where these features truly do work, 
giving the 'worksforme' reason (although it obviously 
does not work for me on F11!




From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  7 21:50:29 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:50:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Application: Konqueror (kdeinit4), signal: Segmentation fault
Message-ID: <896448.98430.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7f306bd17820 (LWP 1942))]
To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Dear all,

I am using KDE on rawhide and I am using konqueror exclusively as my browser of choice, it was/has been working flawlessly, but several times I have an ecountered an ocassional crash such as following 

Application: Konqueror (kdeinit4), signal: Segmentation fault
[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7f306bd17820 (LWP 1942))]

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7f304e423710 (LWP 2050)):
#0  0x00007f306b4ea739 in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007f306b756d82 in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#2  0x00007f306b74ce3a in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#3  0x00007f306b755d65 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#4  0x00007f306b4e596a in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#5  0x00007f3067fb33cd in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#6  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7f306bd17820 (LWP 1942)):
[KCrash Handler]
#5  0x00007f3053016f05 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
#6  0x00007f305267fda9 in KJS::JSObject::call(KJS::ExecState*, KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#7  0x00007f305269c140 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#8  0x00007f305267c4da in KJS::FunctionImp::callAsFunction(KJS::ExecState*, KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#9  0x00007f305267fda9 in KJS::JSObject::call(KJS::ExecState*, KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#10 0x00007f305269c140 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#11 0x00007f305267c4da in KJS::FunctionImp::callAsFunction(KJS::ExecState*, KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#12 0x00007f305267fda9 in KJS::JSObject::call(KJS::ExecState*, KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#13 0x00007f305269c140 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#14 0x00007f305267c4da in KJS::FunctionImp::callAsFunction(KJS::ExecState*, KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#15 0x00007f305267fda9 in KJS::JSObject::call(KJS::ExecState*, KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#16 0x00007f305269c140 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#17 0x00007f3052652343 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#18 0x00007f3052682c5b in KJS::Interpreter::evaluate(KJS::UString const&, int, KJS::UChar const*, int, KJS::JSValue*) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#19 0x00007f3052682dc3 in KJS::Interpreter::evaluate(KJS::UString const&, int, KJS::UString const&, KJS::JSValue*) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
#20 0x00007f30530619a0 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
#21 0x00007f3052e27a70 in KHTMLPart::executeScript(QString const&, int, DOM::Node const&, QString const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
#22 0x00007f3052eb63f2 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
#23 0x00007f3052eba862 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
#24 0x00007f3052ebbf53 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
#25 0x00007f3052ebeb9b in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
#26 0x00007f3052e03b05 in KHTMLPart::write(char const*, int) () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
#27 0x00007f3052e0575e in KHTMLPart::slotData(KIO::Job*, QByteArray const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
#28 0x00007f3052e2b5c8 in KHTMLPart::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
#29 0x00007f306b850b4c in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#30 0x00007f306a6e5244 in KIO::TransferJob::data(KIO::Job*, QByteArray const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
#31 0x00007f306a6eaae6 in KIO::TransferJob::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
#32 0x00007f306b850b4c in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#33 0x00007f306a7aa792 in KIO::SlaveInterface::data(QByteArray const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
#34 0x00007f306a7ae2a8 in KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch(int, QByteArray const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
#35 0x00007f306a7aaa53 in KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch() () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
#36 0x00007f306a79d88d in KIO::Slave::gotInput() () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
#37 0x00007f306a79f99c in KIO::Slave::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
#38 0x00007f306b850b4c in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#39 0x00007f306a6b8f77 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
#40 0x00007f306a6b908d in KIO::Connection::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
#41 0x00007f306b84aec1 in QObject::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#42 0x00007f3068b8c6bc in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib64/libQtGui.so.4
#43 0x00007f3068b9391e in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib64/libQtGui.so.4
#44 0x00007f3069c97b56 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib64/libkdeui.so.5
#45 0x00007f306b83b90c in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#46 0x00007f306b83c512 in QCoreApplicationPrivate::sendPostedEvents(QObject*, int, QThreadData*) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#47 0x00007f306b864033 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#48 0x00007f306760422e in g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#49 0x00007f3067607c18 in ?? () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#50 0x00007f3067607d3a in g_main_context_iteration () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#51 0x00007f306b863ca6 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#52 0x00007f3068c1f08e in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libQtGui.so.4
#53 0x00007f306b83a242 in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#54 0x00007f306b83a614 in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#55 0x00007f306b83c7a9 in QCoreApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#56 0x00007f3058f984c3 in kdemain () from /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so
#57 0x00000000004068e8 in _start ()


How can this help any developer or bugzapper?

Thanks,

Antonio 


      



From linuxhippy at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 15:34:45 2009
From: linuxhippy at gmail.com (Clemens Eisserer)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:34:45 -0400
Subject: Application: Konqueror (kdeinit4), signal: Segmentation fault
In-Reply-To: <896448.98430.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <896448.98430.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <194f62550910200834v28defb6cla4945ef07a9ff391@mail.gmail.com>

I guess this is best forewareded to bugs.kde.org .

2009/10/7, Antonio Olivares :
> [Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7f306bd17820 (LWP 1942))]
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Dear all,
>
> I am using KDE on rawhide and I am using konqueror exclusively as my browser
> of choice, it was/has been working flawlessly, but several times I have an
> ecountered an ocassional crash such as following
>
> Application: Konqueror (kdeinit4), signal: Segmentation fault
> [Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7f306bd17820 (LWP 1942))]
>
> Thread 2 (Thread 0x7f304e423710 (LWP 2050)):
> #0  0x00007f306b4ea739 in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
> /lib64/libpthread.so.0
> #1  0x00007f306b756d82 in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) ()
> from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #2  0x00007f306b74ce3a in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #3  0x00007f306b755d65 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #4  0x00007f306b4e596a in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
> #5  0x00007f3067fb33cd in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
> #6  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
>
> Thread 1 (Thread 0x7f306bd17820 (LWP 1942)):
> [KCrash Handler]
> #5  0x00007f3053016f05 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
> #6  0x00007f305267fda9 in KJS::JSObject::call(KJS::ExecState*,
> KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #7  0x00007f305269c140 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #8  0x00007f305267c4da in KJS::FunctionImp::callAsFunction(KJS::ExecState*,
> KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #9  0x00007f305267fda9 in KJS::JSObject::call(KJS::ExecState*,
> KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #10 0x00007f305269c140 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #11 0x00007f305267c4da in KJS::FunctionImp::callAsFunction(KJS::ExecState*,
> KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #12 0x00007f305267fda9 in KJS::JSObject::call(KJS::ExecState*,
> KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #13 0x00007f305269c140 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #14 0x00007f305267c4da in KJS::FunctionImp::callAsFunction(KJS::ExecState*,
> KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #15 0x00007f305267fda9 in KJS::JSObject::call(KJS::ExecState*,
> KJS::JSObject*, KJS::List const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #16 0x00007f305269c140 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #17 0x00007f3052652343 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #18 0x00007f3052682c5b in KJS::Interpreter::evaluate(KJS::UString const&,
> int, KJS::UChar const*, int, KJS::JSValue*) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #19 0x00007f3052682dc3 in KJS::Interpreter::evaluate(KJS::UString const&,
> int, KJS::UString const&, KJS::JSValue*) () from /usr/lib64/libkjs.so.4
> #20 0x00007f30530619a0 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
> #21 0x00007f3052e27a70 in KHTMLPart::executeScript(QString const&, int,
> DOM::Node const&, QString const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
> #22 0x00007f3052eb63f2 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
> #23 0x00007f3052eba862 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
> #24 0x00007f3052ebbf53 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
> #25 0x00007f3052ebeb9b in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
> #26 0x00007f3052e03b05 in KHTMLPart::write(char const*, int) () from
> /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
> #27 0x00007f3052e0575e in KHTMLPart::slotData(KIO::Job*, QByteArray const&)
> () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
> #28 0x00007f3052e2b5c8 in KHTMLPart::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int,
> void**) () from /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.5
> #29 0x00007f306b850b4c in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**)
> () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #30 0x00007f306a6e5244 in KIO::TransferJob::data(KIO::Job*, QByteArray
> const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
> #31 0x00007f306a6eaae6 in KIO::TransferJob::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call,
> int, void**) () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
> #32 0x00007f306b850b4c in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**)
> () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #33 0x00007f306a7aa792 in KIO::SlaveInterface::data(QByteArray const&) ()
> from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
> #34 0x00007f306a7ae2a8 in KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch(int, QByteArray
> const&) () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
> #35 0x00007f306a7aaa53 in KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch() () from
> /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
> #36 0x00007f306a79d88d in KIO::Slave::gotInput() () from
> /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
> #37 0x00007f306a79f99c in KIO::Slave::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int,
> void**) () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
> #38 0x00007f306b850b4c in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**)
> () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #39 0x00007f306a6b8f77 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
> #40 0x00007f306a6b908d in KIO::Connection::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call,
> int, void**) () from /usr/lib64/libkio.so.5
> #41 0x00007f306b84aec1 in QObject::event(QEvent*) () from
> /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #42 0x00007f3068b8c6bc in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*,
> QEvent*) () from /usr/lib64/libQtGui.so.4
> #43 0x00007f3068b9391e in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from
> /usr/lib64/libQtGui.so.4
> #44 0x00007f3069c97b56 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from
> /usr/lib64/libkdeui.so.5
> #45 0x00007f306b83b90c in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*,
> QEvent*) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #46 0x00007f306b83c512 in
> QCoreApplicationPrivate::sendPostedEvents(QObject*, int, QThreadData*) ()
> from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #47 0x00007f306b864033 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #48 0x00007f306760422e in g_main_context_dispatch () from
> /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
> #49 0x00007f3067607c18 in ?? () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
> #50 0x00007f3067607d3a in g_main_context_iteration () from
> /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
> #51 0x00007f306b863ca6 in
> QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags)
> () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #52 0x00007f3068c1f08e in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libQtGui.so.4
> #53 0x00007f306b83a242 in
> QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags) () from
> /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #54 0x00007f306b83a614 in
> QEventLoop::exec(QFlags) () from
> /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #55 0x00007f306b83c7a9 in QCoreApplication::exec() () from
> /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
> #56 0x00007f3058f984c3 in kdemain () from
> /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so
> #57 0x00000000004068e8 in _start ()
>
>
> How can this help any developer or bugzapper?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 20 15:58:13 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:58:13 -0700
Subject: Fedora 12 Beta now available!
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256046992.4242.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
Message-ID: <1256054293.2314.249.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 08:52 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Jesse Keating wrote:
> 
> > Kernel mode setting (KMS) support, which was
> > introduced on AMD hardware in Fedora 10 and
> > extended to Intel hardware in Fedora 11
> 
> KMS never worked and still does not work on F11 on 
> Intel laptop 915GM i686 PAE.
> 
> I reported the bug back in March (see now closed bug 
> 488824), but it was simply ignored. KMS remains 

Unfortunately we don't have the manpower to get to all X reports, and
rawhide reports tend to take priority.

Certainly you had a bug with your particular adapter, but all the
release notes are saying is that _in general_ KMS was implemented by
default for Intel adapters in F11.

> I closed the bug after I migrated my machines to the 
> sensational F12?, where these features truly do work, 
> giving the 'worksforme' reason (although it obviously 
> does not work for me on F11!

In theory it would be better to leave the report open, in case the fix
can be backported to F11. In practice I think the extent of changes to
the intel driver and X server in F12 make it unlikely :/

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 17:08:38 2009
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (Petrus de Calguarium)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:08:38 -0600
Subject: Fedora 12 Beta now available!
References: <1256046992.4242.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
	<1256054293.2314.249.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: 

Adam Williamson wrote:

> I think the extent of changes to the intel driver
> and X server in F12 make it unlikely

I fully realize that. Graphics in general were severely 
broken in Fedora 11 and it was not the fault of Fedora. 
Fedora is a cutting edge distribution, which is one 
among a number of reasons why I choose and stick with 
it, but this means that sometimes things don't work 
(not to the point of making the system unusable, of 
course, but necessitating disabling features 
temporarily). X, Mesa, KMS, Intel were all in utter 
disarray and none the fault of Fedora -- Fedora 11 just 
happened to come out during this period of instability. 
Unfortunately for users of Fedora 11, the now working X 
Server has not been made available, which is why I 
migrated to Fedora 12. Fedora 12 rocks! All of the 
stuff that was in a transitional state since the 
springtime has now really come of age! And that 
includes KDE, the skeletal state of which didn't help 
Fedora 11 much. This is going to be a killer release!



From poelstra at redhat.com  Tue Oct 20 17:08:49 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:08:49 -0700
Subject: Upcoming Schedule
Message-ID: <4ADDEEA1.90807@redhat.com>

Start       End         Name
Thu 15-Oct  Tue 20-Oct  Stage & Sync Beta to Mirrors
Tue 20-Oct  Tue 20-Oct  Beta Release Public Availability
Tue 20-Oct  Mon 02-Nov  Beta Testing
Fri 23-Oct  Fri 23-Oct  Blocker Bug Day (F12Blocker) #1
Fri 30-Oct  Fri 30-Oct  Blocker Bug Day (F12Blocker) #2
Mon 02-Nov  Mon 02-Nov  End of Beta Testing



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Tue Oct 20 17:22:02 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:22:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fedora 12 Beta now available!
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256046992.4242.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
	<1256054293.2314.249.camel@adam.local.net>
	
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:

> Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > I think the extent of changes to the intel driver and X server in
> > F12 make it unlikely
>
> I fully realize that. Graphics in general were severely broken in
> Fedora 11 and it was not the fault of Fedora. Fedora is a cutting
> edge distribution, which is one among a number of reasons why I
> choose and stick with it, but this means that sometimes things don't
> work (not to the point of making the system unusable, of course, but
> necessitating disabling features temporarily). X, Mesa, KMS, Intel
> were all in utter disarray and none the fault of Fedora -- Fedora 11
> just happened to come out during this period of instability.
> Unfortunately for users of Fedora 11, the now working X Server has
> not been made available, which is why I migrated to Fedora 12.
> Fedora 12 rocks! All of the stuff that was in a transitional state
> since the springtime has now really come of age! And that includes
> KDE, the skeletal state of which didn't help Fedora 11 much. This is
> going to be a killer release!

  i am *so* going to stress test this with my ati radeon systems.
don't get me started on that story.  :-(

rday

p.s.  i know there's a general test page, but is there a specific list
of ATI driver testing?

--

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

        Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 20 17:37:46 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:37:46 -0700
Subject: Fedora 12 Beta now available!
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256046992.4242.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	 <1256054293.2314.249.camel@adam.local.net>
	
	
Message-ID: <1256060266.2314.262.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 13:22 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>   i am *so* going to stress test this with my ati radeon systems.
> don't get me started on that story.  :-(

Radeon's probably not quite as much of a sea-change in this release as
Intel, but it should still be better. Mostly. Heh.

> p.s.  i know there's a general test page, but is there a specific list
> of ATI driver testing?

Not quite sure what you mean, but there's test cases on the most recent
Test Day page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-09-09_Radeon

you can certainly run through those.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 18:18:19 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:48:19 -0430
Subject: Fedora 12 Beta now available!
In-Reply-To: <1256046992.4242.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1256046992.4242.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256062699.15375.14.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 06:56 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> * Hybrid live images - The Live images provided in this release can be
> directly imaged onto a USB stick using dd (or any equivalent tool) to
> create bootable Live USB keys.

I tried this using:

        dd if=F12-Beta-i686-Live-KDE.iso of=/dev/sdc

but the resulting stick doesn't boot.

poc



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 20 18:35:19 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:35:19 -0400
Subject: FC12-Beta ??
Message-ID: <4ADE02E7.9040401@sbcglobal.net>

FC12-Beta-KDE.

I guess Rpmfusion is out of touch for a while ??

I installed rpmfusion from website version for free, nonfree it is 11.90-1 .

If I run yum update It can't find rpmfusion-*-rawhide .

I wanted to install vlc.



From schaiba at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 18:40:05 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:40:05 +0300
Subject: FC12-Beta ??
In-Reply-To: <4ADE02E7.9040401@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4ADE02E7.9040401@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4ADE0405.6000100@gmail.com>

Jim wrote:
> FC12-Beta-KDE.
>
> I guess Rpmfusion is out of touch for a while ??
>
> I installed rpmfusion from website version for free, nonfree it is 
> 11.90-1 .
>
> If I run yum update It can't find rpmfusion-*-rawhide .
>
> I wanted to install vlc.
>
Wait a while. It'll settle down and you'll have your vlc :)



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 20 18:46:24 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:46:24 -0400
Subject: FC12-Beta ??
In-Reply-To: <4ADE0405.6000100@gmail.com>
References: <4ADE02E7.9040401@sbcglobal.net> <4ADE0405.6000100@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ADE0580.9030404@sbcglobal.net>

On 10/20/2009 02:40 PM, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>> FC12-Beta-KDE.
>>
>> I guess Rpmfusion is out of touch for a while ??
>>
>> I installed rpmfusion from website version for free, nonfree it is 
>> 11.90-1 .
>>
>> If I run yum update It can't find rpmfusion-*-rawhide .
>>
>> I wanted to install vlc.
>>
> Wait a while. It'll settle down and you'll have your vlc :)
>
Thanks for the info.



From gene at czarc.net  Tue Oct 20 23:39:05 2009
From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:39:05 -0400
Subject: Oops
Message-ID: <200910201939.05147.gene@czarc.net>

F12 beta was available so I downloaded the DVD iso ... that was a waste of 
bandwidth since it was identical to F12-Beta RC2.

Anyway, I had already installed a couple of copies of RC2 into qemu-kvm guests 
so it was time to install this on bare-metal.

My test system already had F12-rawhide installed with all current updates but, 
afterall, this is a test of the install ... so I did another install ... my 
test system supports four, separate bootable systems (combinations of /boot 
partitions and LVM logical volumes for root).

OK, boot it up and start configuring it, updating (I did a DVD-only install), 
etc.  Well, one of the things this system does is run qemu-kvm so I had 
selected Virtualization during the install.  My guest disk images are all on a 
separate logical volume which I mount on /.var/lib/libvirt/images but the 
system definition/configuration files are separate.  When I went to copy them 
from the old system I found the was no place to copy them to ... /etc/libvirt/ 
was missing.  Further checking showed that the libvirt rpm was not installed 
... this is easy enought to fix but it should not have happened ... it should 
have been installed when I selected virtualization.

So, what package do I BZ against? [that is, if it has not been already BZed]

Gene



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct 20 23:42:30 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:42:30 -0400
Subject: [Test-Announce] F-12 Beta Blocker Meeting 2009-10-21 @ 15:00 UTC
	(11 AM EDT)
Message-ID: <1256082150.2148.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>

When: Wednesday, 2009-10-21 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

Join us this **Wednesday** for an unscheduled [1] review of the Fedora
12 release blocker bug list [2].  Note, a regularly scheduled review is
planned for this Friday.  However, given that the current list contains
74 unresolved F12Blocker bugs we plan to spend 1 hour cutting that list
down to size.

See the attached file for the current list of Fedora 12 Release blocker
bugs [2].

Have an issue you'd like to propose as an F12 release blocker?  Please
consider the following criteria when escalating an issue:

      * Can this issue be fixed with a future update or is it part of
        the critical path? [3]
      * Is this defect a high (or greater) severity [4] with no, or an
        unreasonable, workaround?
      * Is this an embarrassing bug affecting a large number of users?

See you there!
James

[1]
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-quality-tasks.html
[2]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F12Blocker&hide_resolved=1
[3]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages_Proposal#When_and_how_to_determine_packages_within_the_path
[4]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow#Priority_and_Severity
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= alsa-lib =
514000 - ASSIGNED  - Aureon 5.1 MkII can't do 5.1 anymore
529225 - NEW  - speakers of my notebook doesn't work (headphones are OK)

= alsa-utils =
466377 - NEW  - alsactl segfaults in a boot sequence
523768 - ASSIGNED  - [abrt] crash detected in alsa-utils-1.0.21-2.fc12

= anaconda =
493058 - MODIFIED  - Custom partitioning creation/edit causes traceback
503149 - NEW  - Add features to Anaconda to aid installation on Apple computers
506013 - MODIFIED  - liveinst crash - DBusException ... No such property HwAddress
515441 - MODIFIED  - Can't select local CD/DVD after provide a wrong NFS location during install of F12 alpha
517260 - MODIFIED  - liveinst fails at partitioning screen
517491 - ASSIGNED  - Anaconda fails if filesystem should be shrunk
522609 - MODIFIED  - AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'
524168 - MODIFIED  - Wrong RAID10 recognition in anaconda while dmraid shows correct values
525924 - NEW  - anaconda 12.30 does not support NFS iso install
526549 - ASSIGNED  - rats_install kickstart fails due to swap device prompt
526697 - MODIFIED  - Trying to change encryption status of partition ends with error message: The mount point "" is in use. Please pick another
527258 - MODIFIED  - When using NFS installation source - Cannot retrieve repository metadata for respository: UIedited_0.
527520 - MODIFIED  - post-install lxde system boots in text mode
527952 - MODIFIED  - AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'disk'
528317 - MODIFIED  - anaconda traceback in getDefaultTimeZone KeyError en_AU
528537 - ASSIGNED  - fails to get kickstart file over nfs.

= DeviceKit-disks =
528909 - NEW  - DevKit 95-devkit-disks.rules should avoid scan all DM devices

= distribution =
distribution - 498968 - NEW  - Fedora 12 Virtualization Target Blocker

= dmraid =
505562 - MODIFIED  - kernel is booted without actived dmraid (ESB2 with lsi firmware)
528097 - MODIFIED  - /sbin/dmraid needs possibly unmounted /usr/lib

= e2fsprogs =
522969 - MODIFIED  - ext3 superblock in future

= empath =
528038 - ASSIGNED  - Where do I enter the IRC server?

= fast-user-switch-applet =
512944 - NEW  - fast-user-switching locks up login screen

= firefox =
513864 - NEW  - Firefox crashes
517879 - NEW  - Java applet kills firefox

= firstaidkit =
519442 - MODIFIED  - serial text-mode firstaidkit does not use same TERM settings as anaconda text-mode
528497 - MODIFIED  - FirstAidKit does not start when using F-12-Beta rescue mode from disc1.iso

= firstboot =
526836 - MODIFIED  - firstboot appears to be confused with multiple monitor setup

= gadmin-squid =
498156 - ASSIGNED  - gadmin-squid does not generate valid squid.conf

= gdm =
527920 - ASSIGNED  - gdm doesn't show user list and crashes - unable to login

= gedit =
521519 - NEW  - gedit 2.27 leaking memory

= gvfs =
509733 - NEW  - Process /usr/libexec/gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor received signal 11

= hsqldb =
517839 - NEW  - bitxor and bitor both mapped to single bitor function
523110 - NEW  - autoincrement bustage on column redefinition

= initscripts =
528222 - NEW  - LiveCD intermittently gets stuck during shutdown

= kde-settings =
520480 - NEW  - F12 KDE blocker

= kernel =
493472 - NEW  - [945GM] KMS: LVDS wrongly detected as connected, DVI monitor resolution incorrectly set
501769 - NEW  - intel hda: snd_pcm_avail/snd_pcm_delay overflows
506075 - ASSIGNED  - snd_intel8x0: snd_pcm_avail()/ snd_pcm_delay() overflow
514600 - ASSIGNED  - Intel 82G965 requires 'nomodeset' workaround to get working text-mode
521512 - ASSIGNED  - KMS: X Window Frozen with Radeon XPRESS 200M

= livecd-tools =
529209 - MODIFIED  - PATCH: Tell dracut not to ask for LUKS passwords or activate mdraid sets

= nautilus =
523815 - NEW  - nautilus hoses vino

= NetworkManager =
529766 - MODIFIED  - applet won't start

= nss =
519766 - MODIFIED  - (nss) FORTIFY_SOURCE buffer overflows and other issues in test suite
520162 - MODIFIED  - nss-devel no longer provides pkgconfig(nss)
527048 - NEW  - nss-sysinit: system-wide nss sql empty key database shouldn't have a password

= PackageKit =
520750 - ASSIGNED  - Software Update windows checks for update does not stop ..

= pango =
522187 - ASSIGNED  - Java (so Eclipse too) crashes

= perl =
510127 - ASSIGNED  - perl taint bug

= plymouth =
527089 - NEW  - repaire console is not accessible
527426 - ASSIGNED  - (plymouth) No text prompt for encryption password (but keyboard input is accepted)

= polkit =
526044 - NEW  - Using invalid subject type crashes polkitd

= redhat-lsb =
523270 - NEW  - /usr/sbin/redhat_lsb_trigger.x86_64 hangs

= setuptool =
529794 - MODIFIED  - cannot modify firewall using 'setup'

= thunderbird =
526154 - ASSIGNED  - localisation breaks sending mail

= unixODBC =
518623 - ON_QA  - busted sizes for SQLBIGINT and ODBCINT64 etc

= webkitgtk =
516057 - ASSIGNED  - gets whacked by selinux execmem check

= xorg-x11-drv-ati =
518962 - NEW  - ATI - Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting
521322 - ASSIGNED  - no graphics and no console for F12-Snap1-x86_64-Live
522137 - ASSIGNED  - Test_Day:2009-09-09_Radeon: Multiple tests crash X.org
522929 - NEW  - repeated system crashes
522970 - ASSIGNED  - popup messages unreadable

= xorg-x11-drv-intel =
528048 - ASSIGNED  - display black after resume

= xorg-x11-drv-neomagic =
523800 - ASSIGNED  - X.org doesn't work on ThinkPad 600X (NeoMagic MagicGraph256ZX)

= xorg-x11-drv-nouveau =
528005 - NEW  - X server crash

= xorg-x11-server =
514415 - NEW  - X server locks up every time notification is about to be displayed
528312 - ASSIGNED  - udev takes almost 100% CPU on resume from suspend (and Xorg are to be blamed)

= xulrunner =
512845 - ASSIGNED  - setroubleshoot:      SELinux is preventing firefox from changing a writable memory segment executable.

= yaboot =
526021 - ASSIGNED  - f12 beta failed to boot on ppc platform after  autopart and encrypted installation
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From tom.horsley at att.net  Tue Oct 20 23:44:13 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:44:13 -0400
Subject: checksum/disk theories?
Message-ID: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>

I have the f12 Beta dvd images run through "split -b 1G" on
a vfat usb stick. For both the i36 and the x86_64 images
when I do something like this:

cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoa* > ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso

The sha256sum -c fails on the resulting file :-(. (The checksums
checked OK on the original files I downloaded).

Then I do this:

cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoaa > ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoab >> ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoac >> ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoad >> ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso

The resulting file is the same size as the one I got the 1st time,
but this file passes the sha256sum -c.

Has bash started randomly ordering wildcard expansion or something?

Has my usb stick flaked out and only works right when I read the
same set of files twice in a row?

I got the exact same results getting the i386 images off the usb stick
as well.

What is going on?



From bruno at wolff.to  Tue Oct 20 23:50:46 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:50:46 -0500
Subject: Oops
In-Reply-To: <200910201939.05147.gene@czarc.net>
References: <200910201939.05147.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <20091020235046.GA12724@wolff.to>

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 19:39:05 -0400,
  Gene Czarcinski  wrote:
> F12 beta was available so I downloaded the DVD iso ... that was a waste of 
> bandwidth since it was identical to F12-Beta RC2.

If you end up testing RCs in the future and have upload bandwidth you are
willing to donate, you can use an RC that matches the corresponding release
to seed torrents. Normally you can look at the manifest for the torrent
and just move the iso to the appropriately named file in the download
directory and at least some bittorrent clients will quickly check that the iso
matches and then start seeding.



From tcallawa at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 00:06:57 2009
From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:06:57 -0400
Subject: Intel Mac Mini Audio does not work
Message-ID: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>

I've recently inherited an older Intel Mac Mini (Intel guts, not
NVIDIA). I installed F11 i386 on it and then upgraded to the F12 beta
(2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE), but I can't seem to get audio to work properly.

I created /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and put in it:

options snd-hda-intel model=macmini

That didn't make anything work, but it seems correct.

I've attached the info from an alsa-info.sh run.

When I run aplay, it seems to playback (it runs for the duration it
should), but no audio is coming out of either of the analog ports on the
back (I don't have any digital audio equipment to test the digital port).

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. :)

~spot
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From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 00:06:17 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:36:17 -0430
Subject: checksum/disk theories?
In-Reply-To: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>
References: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>
Message-ID: <1256083577.15375.51.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 19:44 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Has my usb stick flaked out and only works right when I read the
> same set of files twice in a row?

Are the split files still on the USB stick? What happens if you copy
them to your hard drive and then do the cat?

poc



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Wed Oct 21 00:33:49 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:33:49 +0800
Subject: checksum/disk theories?
In-Reply-To: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>
References: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>
Message-ID: <4ADE56ED.3060203@herakles.homelinux.org>

Tom Horsley wrote:
> I have the f12 Beta dvd images run through "split -b 1G" on
> a vfat usb stick. For both the i36 and the x86_64 images
> when I do something like this:
> 
> cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoa* > ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
> 
> The sha256sum -c fails on the resulting file :-(. (The checksums
> checked OK on the original files I downloaded).
> 
> Then I do this:
> 
> cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoaa > ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
> cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoab >> ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
> cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoac >> ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
> cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoad >> ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
> 
> The resulting file is the same size as the one I got the 1st time,
> but this file passes the sha256sum -c.
> 
> Has bash started randomly ordering wildcard expansion or something?

I don't think bash has ever ordered the files. Instead, they're listed 
in the order matched.

Where order matters, something modelled on this:
echo $(\ls Derf*)
or echo $(ls -1 Der* | sort)

ls supports ordering on other criteria than filename, even for short lists.

That said, my testing on RHEL6-clone just now doesn't support my 
contention, so maybe I misremember something.

btw FAT32 does support files larger than 1 Gb, and you can format them 
ext2 if you wish. I'd not bother with journals in the ordinary course of 
events.



DESCRIPTION
        The  scandir()  function  scans the directory dir, calling 
filter() on each directory entry.  Entries
        for which filter() returns non-zero are stored  in  strings 
allocated  via  malloc(),  sorted  using
        qsort() with the comparison function compar(), and collected in 
array namelist which is allocated via
        malloc().  If filter is NULL, all entries are selected.

Why you appeared to have the files concatenated in the wrong order, I'm 
running out of ideas.
This might help elucidate:

echo \
cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoa* \> ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso

Note I escaped the ">" so as to prevent its interpretation by your 
shell. This command will show you what bash thinks it's doing.



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John

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From smooge at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 00:53:02 2009
From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen John Smoogen)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:53:02 -0600
Subject: Intel Mac Mini Audio does not work
In-Reply-To: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>
References: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <80d7e4090910201753vc45ea5ele81db68e5e7ea7ec@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway
 wrote:
> I've recently inherited an older Intel Mac Mini (Intel guts, not
> NVIDIA). I installed F11 i386 on it and then upgraded to the F12 beta
> (2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE), but I can't seem to get audio to work properly.

Did it work with F11 and not with F12 or with neither?

> I created /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and put in it:
>
> options snd-hda-intel model=macmini
>
> That didn't make anything work, but it seems correct.
>
> I've attached the info from an alsa-info.sh run.
>
> When I run aplay, it seems to playback (it runs for the duration it
> should), but no audio is coming out of either of the analog ports on the
> back (I don't have any digital audio equipment to test the digital port).

Any messages in dmesg when it loads/unloads the module or detects the hardware?

Completely in the dark.. but maybe it could use another option

	  intel-mac-v1	Intel Mac Type 1
	  intel-mac-v2	Intel Mac Type 2
	  intel-mac-v3	Intel Mac Type 3
	  intel-mac-v4	Intel Mac Type 4
	  intel-mac-v5	Intel Mac Type 5


> Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. :)
>
> ~spot
>
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From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct 21 00:50:38 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:50:38 +0000
Subject: Intel Mac Mini Audio does not work
In-Reply-To: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>
References: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4ADE5ADE.5010000@hi.is>

On 10/21/2009 12:06 AM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> I've recently inherited an older Intel Mac Mini (Intel guts, not
> NVIDIA). I installed F11 i386 on it and then upgraded to the F12 beta
> (2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE), but I can't seem to get audio to work properly.
>
> I created /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and put in it:
>
> options snd-hda-intel model=macmini
>
>    
Hum

old mac mini probably the ones that the built in speaker never worked on..

Use the rear jack you should get a get a sound if not try model=imac24 
or model=mbp3 instead .....


JBG



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 21 00:59:00 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:59:00 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091021005900.110E810F8C2@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    DeviceKit-disks-004-5.fc11
    EMBOSS-6.1.0-5.fc11
    GMT-4.5.0-4.fc11
    NetPIPE-3.7.1-2.fc11
    NetworkManager-0.7.1.997-1.fc11
    afraid-dyndns-1.1-1.fc11
    amanda-2.6.0p2-9.fc11
    audacious-plugins-1.5.1-12.fc11
    audit-1.7.16-1.fc11
    autofs-5.0.4-42
    beanstalkd-1.4.2-1.fc11
    bitlbee-1.2.4-1.fc11
    cas-0.15-1.fc11
    claws-mail-3.7.3-1.fc11
    claws-mail-plugins-3.7.3-1.fc11
    colossus-0.9.3-1.fc11
    drehatlas-warender-bibliothek-fonts-1.0.1.1-1.fc11
    drehatlas-widelands-fonts-1.0.2.2-6.fc11
    environment-modules-3.2.7b-3.fc11
    fbreader-0.10.7-4.fc11
    fuse-encfs-1.5-10.fc11
    gargi-fonts-1.9-2.fc11
    gdl-0.9-0.7.rc3.fc11
    gloox-1.0rc3-0.8.SVNr4204.fc11
    gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-2.fc11
    gtrayicon-1.1-2.fc11
    haproxy-1.3.21-1.fc11
    hercstudio-1.0.0-1.fc11
    inkscape-0.47-0.16.pre3.20091017svn.fc11
    jakarta-commons-compress-1.0-1.fc11
    json_simple-1.1-2.fc11
    kde-l10n-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdeaccessibility-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdeadmin-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdeartwork-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdebase-4.3.2-3.fc11
    kdebase-runtime-4.3.2-4.fc11
    kdebase-workspace-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdebindings-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdeedu-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdegames-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdegraphics-4.3.2-3.fc11
    kdelibs-4.3.2-4.fc11
    kdelibs-experimental-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdemultimedia-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdenetwork-4.3.2-3.fc11
    kdepim-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdepim-runtime-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdepimlibs-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdeplasma-addons-4.3.2-2.fc11
    kdesdk-4.3.2-2.fc11
    kdetoys-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kdeutils-4.3.2-1.fc11
    kernel-2.6.30.9-90.fc11
    klavaro-1.3.4-1.fc11
    konversation-1.2-1.fc11
    lensfun-0.2.4-1.fc11
    libgpod-0.7.0-3.fc11
    libgpod-0.7.0-4.fc11
    libvirt-0.6.2-19.fc11
    md5deep-3.4-1.fc11
    mingw32-proj-4.6.1-4.fc11
    mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20090918-1.fc11
    mod_perlite-0.10-1.fc11
    monitor-edid-2.4-1.fc11
    mrepo-0.8.6-5.fc11
    nfoview-1.8-1.fc11
    nfs-utils-1.2.0-6.fc11
    ocaml-camlimages-3.0.1-7.fc11.3
    ocaml-mysql-1.0.4-8.fc11.1
    ocaml-postgresql-1.12.3-1.fc11.2
    octave-3.2.3-1.fc11
    octave-forge-20090607-15.fc11
    openscada-0.6.4-2.fc11
    openvrml-0.18.3-6.fc11
    oxygen-icon-theme-4.3.2-1.fc11
    pfstools-1.7.0-8.fc11
    plplot-5.9.5-1.fc11
    pspp-0.6.2-1.fc11
    pyserial-2.4-1.fc11
    python-suds-0.3.7-1.fc11
    qemu-0.10.6-8.fc11
    qtcurve-gtk2-0.69.0-1.fc11
    qtcurve-kde4-0.69.0-1.fc11
    roundup-1.4.10-1.fc11
    rubygem-activerecord-2.3.2-3.fc11
    rubygem-git-1.2.4-1.fc11
    sdparm-1.04-1.fc11
    selinux-policy-3.6.12-86.fc11
    setup-2.8.3-3.fc11
    skrooge-0.5.2-2.fc11
    thunar-vcs-plugin-0.1.0-1.fc11
    tito-0.1.1-2.fc11
    tokyotyrant-1.1.35-1.fc11
    translate-toolkit-1.4.1-1.fc11
    tucan-0.3.9-0.1.alpha.fc11
    uncrustify-0.54-1.fc11
    unuran-1.4.1-1.fc11
    valide-0.5.1-0.20.20091019svn425.fc11
    vhostmd-0.4-0.2.gitea2f772d.fc11
    vhostmd-0.4-0.5.gite9db007b.fc11
    virtaal-0.4.1-1.fc11
    vsftpd-2.1.2-2.fc11
    webacula-3.3-6.fc11
    wxGTK-2.8.10-3.fc11
    xfce4-panel-4.6.2-1.fc11
    xmltooling-1.2.2-3.fc11
    xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.2.6-1.fc11
    xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-1.fc11.1
    yaml-cpp-0.2.2-2.fc11
    yaz-3.0.49-1.fc11

Details about builds:


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 DeviceKit-disks-004-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10713)
 Disk Management Service
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Update Information:

Update fixes problems with audio CDs not showing up on the desktop or in music
applications such as Rhythmbox.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Harald Hoyer  004-5.fc11
- fixed audio CD handling (#513495)
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References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #513495 - CD audio stops working after update to new release of udev
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513495
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 EMBOSS-6.1.0-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10649)
 The European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a new package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496133 - Review Request: EMBOSS - The European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496133
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 GMT-4.5.0-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10548)
 Generic Mapping Tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream Octave (3.2.3).  This is a major upgrade, so please
save your output data before running any new octave scripts.  Other packages
have been rebuilt to match new API (v37).    This may also fix some other
outstanding bugs in the old 3.0.x Octave release, so please upgrade and provide
feedback here, or on the attached bugs if it fixes problems you had with the
3.0.x release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Jul 31 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 4.5.0-4
- Rebuild against Octave 3.2.2
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 4.5.0-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 4.5.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #525423 - RFE: Octave 3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525423
  [ 2 ] Bug #513381 - octave uses reference blas instead of ATLAS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513381
  [ 3 ] Bug #492155 - octave's function glpk broken due to "undefined symbol: _glp_lib_fault_hook"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492155
  [ 4 ] Bug #524136 - saving graphs in octave
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524136
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================================================================================
 NetPIPE-3.7.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10558)
 Protocol independent performance tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of this package, which can be used to test network performance.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528847 - Review Request: Netpipe - A protocol independent network performance tool
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528847
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================================================================================
 NetworkManager-0.7.1.997-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10696)
 Network connection manager and user applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update improves mobile broadband support for ZTE, Onda, Sierra, Ericsson,
and Option devices.  In addition, PEAP-GTC support was added, along with VPN,
ethernet carrier detection, and various 802.1x authentication fixes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Dan Williams  - 0.7.1.997-1
- nm: add support for PEAP-GTC (rh #451027)
- nm: ensure VPN secrets aren't re-used when they shouldn't be
- nm: fix race causing erroneous ethernet carrier change events
- nm: fixes for ZTE, Onda, and Sierra modem detection and operation
- nm: enhanced support for Ericsson 'mbm' modems
- nm: enhanced support for AT&T Quicksilver and Option iCON 505
- nm: work around PPP bug returning bogus nameservers
- editor: fix editing system-wide VPN connections
- applet: PEAP, TTLS, and wired 802.1x fixes
- applet: install GConf schemas
- applet: fix default focus for passphrase dialogs
- applet: translation updates
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================================================================================
 afraid-dyndns-1.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10560)
 A dynamic DNS client for the free service afraid.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

modified for OSX support  enhanced to handle single host names
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522988 - Review Request: afraid-dyndns - A dynamic DNS client for the free service afraid.org
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522988
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================================================================================
 amanda-2.6.0p2-9.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10607)
 A network-capable tape backup solution
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Daniel Novotny  2.6.0p2-9
- add amanda user to group "tape" (#529159)
- fix failed build (#510961)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529159 - amanda doesn't have permissions to write to tape devices
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529159
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================================================================================
 audacious-plugins-1.5.1-12.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10685)
 Plugins for the Audacious media player
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Patch "pulse_audio" output plugin to not get confused by volume level changes
passed in via callback. Volume level now doesn't change when starting the next
track.  * Patch alsa-ng plugin with some buffer prefilling to fight underruns.
* Merge minor changes from 2.2 alpha1 alsa-ng plugin.    [Please note that if
you use external mixers / volume controls  to alter the volume level, Audacious
older than 2.2 (which is still being developed) does not reflect that with its
own volume slider. So, if you switch between multiple volume controls often, you
can experience big jumps in volume level going up/down.]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-12
- Patch pulseaudio plugin to not get confused by volume values passed
  in via callback.
* Sat Sep 19 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-11
- Patch alsa-ng plugin with some buffer prefilling to fight underruns.
- Merge minor changes from 2.2 alpha1 alsa-ng plugin.
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================================================================================
 audit-1.7.16-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10645)
 User space tools for 2.6 kernel auditing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes several problems in remote logging. The audisp-prelude plugin
will now use the record containing a file if multiple path records are
encountered in the sam event.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Steve Grubb  1.7.16-1
- New upstream release
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================================================================================
 autofs-5.0.4-42 (FEDORA-2009-10652)
 A tool for automatically mounting and unmounting filesystems
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Ian Kent  - 1:5.0.4-42
- fix stale initialization for file map instance (bz510025).
* Thu Sep 10 2009 Ian Kent  - 1:5.0.4-40
- special case cifs mount location escaping (bz522109).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #510025 - automount debug mode seems to change more than log behavior
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510025
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================================================================================
 beanstalkd-1.4.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10699)
 A simple, fast workqueue service
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.4.2-1
- update to upstream 1.4.2
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.4-0
- update to upstream 1.4
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================================================================================
 bitlbee-1.2.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10616)
 IRC to other chat networks gateway
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream changes for BitlBee 1.2.4:  - Most important change (and main reason
for releasing now): Upgraded Yahoo! module to a newer version to get it working
again.  - join_chat command replaced with the much better chat command:    *
Similar to how account replaced login/slist/logout. Add a chatroom once, then
just /join it like any other room. Also automatic joining at login time is now
possible.    * Note that the old way of starting groupchats (/join #nickname) is
now also deprecated, use "chat with" instead.    * See "help chat" and "help
chat add" for more information.  - Rewrote bitlbee.conf parser to be less dumb.
- Fixed compatibility (hopefully) with AIM mobile messages, certain kinds of
Google Talk chatrooms.  - Fixed numerous stability/reliability bugs over the
last year.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Robert Scheck  1.2.4-1
- Upgrade to 1.2.4
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================================================================================
 cas-0.15-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10634)
 Tool to analyze and configure core file environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Replaced func with paramiko
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Adam Stokes  - 0.15-1
- Require paramiko for all remote executions
- Rip out func code
- Documentation update to include ssh setup
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.14-11
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
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================================================================================
 claws-mail-3.7.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10622)
 The extended version of Sylpheed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Andreas Bierfert 
- 3.7.3-1
- version upgrade (including gtk 2.18 fixes #527065)
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.7.2-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
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================================================================================
 claws-mail-plugins-3.7.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10622)
 Additional plugins for claws-mail
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Andreas Bierfert 
- 3.7.3-1
- version upgrade
- new plugins bsfilter, python
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================================================================================
 colossus-0.9.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10654)
 Allows people to play Titan against each other or AIs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Rebase to 0.9.3  - Adjust script for grabbing source to be able to grab from
branches  - Fixed 2877055: Some GUI preferences don't load on startup  - Fixed:
2864777 Illegal rangestrike over walls  - Do not choose Experimental AI as "A
Random AI" because it occasionally crashes  - Fixed: 2859914 Balrog placement
ignores score (aka: Balrog every 300 again, no  t 50)  - Fixed: 2864790 Aborting
load game with remote player - No GetPlayers dialog  - Fixed: 2838276 "my Strike
Skill" is wrong for nonnatives to bramble (actually,   just improved the dialog
to make it's meaning clearer)  - Fixed: 2855208 Balrog exception in V0.9.2
(ConcurrentModificationException)  - See:
http://colossus.sourceforge.net/docs/RecentChangesDetails.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Bruno Wolff III  - 0.9.3-1
- Rebase to 0.9.3
- Adjust script for grabbing source to be able to grab from branches
- Fixed 2877055: Some GUI preferences don't load on startup
- Fixed: 2864777 Illegal rangestrike over walls
- Do not choose Experimental AI as "A Random AI" because it occasionally crashes
- Fixed: 2859914 Balrog placement ignores score (aka: Balrog every 300 again, not 50)
- Fixed: 2864790 Aborting load game with remote player - No GetPlayers dialog
- Fixed: 2838276 "my Strike Skill" is wrong for nonnatives to bramble (actually, just improved the dialog to make it's meaning clearer)
- Fixed: 2855208 Balrog exception in V0.9.2 (ConcurrentModificationException)
- See: http://colossus.sourceforge.net/docs/RecentChangesDetails.html
* Sun Sep  6 2009 Bruno Wolff III  - 0.9.2-1.20090906svn4519
- Rebase to 0.9.2
- See: http://colossus.sourceforge.net/docs/RecentChangesDetails.html
- Fixed: 2835558 WARNING: Could not find creature with name none
- Fixed: 2820231 Illegal rangestrike
- Fixed: 2848651 and 2828028: Legion flyouts
- Fixed: 2837746 Balrog variant: Caretaker counts not reset between games
- Fixed: 2839241 Faulty anchor tags (Crossreference links in docs worked for Inetnet Explorer but not for Netscape)
- Make loading and saving of Balrog games work
- Make Auto Done act properly when there is no Recruit action or undo possible
- Add in save game also a property that tells with which release / revision of Colossus that save game was created.
- Eliminated some race situations in game startup (thread interaction/notifications)
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================================================================================
 drehatlas-warender-bibliothek-fonts-1.0.1.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10653)
 A Latin typeface that is decorative, surreal, and hairy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This font was created by Peter Schwanemann and originally based on a hand drawn
font created for a Pen & Paper RPG. Nowadays the font gets more and more
complete and should give the possibility of creating fantasy and/or decorative
logos, headings and other texts.  The font was not created to be used in normal
texts, as it is too complex and not as easy to read as a simple sans serif font.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529494 - Review Request: drehatlas-warender-bibliothek-fonts - A decorative, hairy font
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529494
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================================================================================
 drehatlas-widelands-fonts-1.0.2.2-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10589)
 A Latin typeface inspired by feudal calligraphy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This font was created by Nasenbaer as a logo for the Widelands project, but has
since been enhanced.  The font is decorative and not really usable for body
texts, but it looks nice for logos, banners or similar stuff.  All normal latin
glyphs and arabic numbers are included and usable.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528949 - Review Request: oflb-Widelands-fonts - Widelands font
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528949
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================================================================================
 environment-modules-3.2.7b-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10598)
 Provides dynamic modification of a user's environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Support different flavors of "sh"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 3.2.7b-3
- Support different flavors of "sh" (bug #529493)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529493 - Bash specific feature in /etc/profile.d/modules.sh causes KSH errors.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529493
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================================================================================
 fbreader-0.10.7-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10553)
 E-book reader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Michel Salim  - 0.10.7-4
- Provide virtual packages for each available interface
- Use alternatives to select the user interface (see README.Fedora)
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Michel Salim  - 0.10.7-3
- Split out zlibrary and zlibrary-ui subpackages (fixes bz# 523946)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #523946 - RFE: Offer a sub-package for FBReader's Qt 4 GUI
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523946
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================================================================================
 fuse-encfs-1.5-10.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10705)
 Encrypted pass-thru filesystem in userspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Added versioned Requires for boost-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Peter Lemenkov  1.5-10
- Added version in Requires for boost-devel
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Peter Lemenkov  1.5-9
- rebuilt with new fuse
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 1.5-8
- rebuilt with new openssl
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.5-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gargi-fonts-1.9-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10660)
 A Devanagari font
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New Package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526633 - Review Request: gargi-fonts - A Devanagari font
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526633
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gdl-0.9-0.7.rc3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10559)
 GNU Data Language
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.9rc3.     interpreter:             - corrected GOTO out of loops
within outer blocks             - corrected array to tag of struct array
assignment             - $: fixing two segfault conditions when SHELL or HOME
env. variables not set             - allowing tag names with leading '!'
- imroved DataListT an empty procedure call by extimated 40%               -
detecting change of type of FOR index variable             - allowing common
blocks outside subroutines    library routines:                   - ATAN:
precision fixes (atan(float, float) -> float(atan(double, double))),
/PHASE keyword support, array-scalar argument combination support,
two-complex-arguments case support               - BESEL*: non integer order, X
neg, Complex, and better managment of arrays dimensions             - BETA:
better management of the dimensions of output arrays             - BROYDEN:
initial import             - CALENDAR: initial import             - CALDAT:
initial import             - COMMAND_LINE_ARGS: initial import             -
CONTOUR: avoiding plplot error messages when filling,               fixing
segfault when contouring NaNs,               smarter contour-level choice,
partial labelling support             - CREATE_STRUCT: accepting excl. mark as a
first char of a tag name             - EXIT: fixing segfault if HOME env. var
undefined             - EXPINT: better management of the dimensions of output
arrays             - IDL_BASE64: initial import             - IGAMMA: better
management of the dimensions of output arrays             - IMSL_CONSTANT:
initial import (using UDUNITS-2)             - IMSL_ZEROSYS: initial import
- FILE_INFO: initial import                - FILE_LINES: no longer calling awk
to parse wc output             - FILE_SAME: initial import               -
FILE_SEARCH: support for FULLY_QUALIFY_PATH kw.             - FILE_TEST:
handling /NOEXPAND_PATH keyword             - FFT: Fix /OVERWRITE with non-
global parm bug (FFTW), fix auto_ptr bug with DOUBLE             - FLUSH:
initial import             - GET_DRIVE_LIST: initial import             -
GET_KBRD: reading only one character (setting stdin to non-echo and non-
canonical mode)             - GET_LOGIN_INFO: initial import             -
HISTOGRAM: fixing inclusive ranges definition               setting OMIN/OMAX
type according to the type of input data               binsize = (max - min) /
(nbins - 1) when NBINS specified with neither MAX nor BINSIZE
LOCATION keyword set correctly when HISTOGRAM called with NBINS and without
BINSIZE or MAX             - HELP: reporting structure data lengths, /MEMORY
keyword support             - LL_ARC_DISTANCE: initial import             -
LOCALE_GET: initial import             - MAKE_ARRAY: /PTR & /OBJ keywords,
/INDEX keyword support for strings             - MAKE_ARRAY: keyword name
changed from INT to INTEGER             - MAX: DIMENSION keyword support
- MIN: ditto             - MEDIAN: memory leak fix + change DIM into DIMENSION
- MEMORY: initial import             - MOMENT: MAXMOMENT kw support + update of
the documentation header             - N_TAGS: rename keyword /LENGTH to
/DATA_LENGTH             - NCDF_ATTGET: code cleanup + fixes             -
NCDF_ATTPUT: fixing invalid keyword numbering             - NCDF_DIMINQ:
accepting long integers as file and dimension ids             - NCDF_VARGET:
64-bit fix (SizeT->Dlong for transposed_dim_length[])               reading text
data             - NCDF_VARGET1: reading text data             - NCDF_VARPUT:
fixing random behaviour due to type mismatch (size_t -> int),
fixing uninitialized variable bug             - NEWTON: initial import
- OPENW: allowing /APPEND flag for non-existant files             - PARSE_URL:
initial import             - PATH_SEP: now return good type STRING = '/', before
STRING = Array[1]             - PLOTS: correction for DATA coordinates
- PM: initial import             - PRINT: handling VMS compatibility syntax;
demo: print, "$(F)", 1             - PRINTF: ditto             - READ_ASCII:
handling both whitespace and tab as delimiter by default;               using
FILE_LINES instead of spawning wc             - READ_XWD: fixing a conditional
statement typo             - READF: bugfix - allowing reads from standard input
(lun 0)             - REVERSE: initial import             - ROTATE: better error
message             - SIZE: fixing datatype (sign) conflict in IDL_SIZE
structure assignment             - SHOWFONT: initial import             - SPAWN:
fixed segfault when SHELL env. variable not set,               undoing bitwise
shift in EXIT_STATUS value; demo: spawn, "exit -1", e=i & help, i
setting EXIT_STATUS parameter when nParam==0; demo: spawn, exit=i & help, i
- SPL_INIT: initial import of C++ version (y0= and yn_1= not ready)
- SPL_INTERP: ditto             - STRING: handling VMS compatibility syntax;
demo: help,string(1,"(G)")             - STRSPLIT: will allow 'str' and ['str']
1D strings             - SYSTIME: correction for /JULIAN flag; conflicting
keywords message             - TV: managing [1,n,m], [n,1,m] and [n,m,1] cases
when TRUE=0             - VOIGT: better management of the dimensions of output
arrays             - XYOUTS: axis thickness fix, DATA coordinates fix    other:
- embedded formatting commands for plotting routines (TEXTOIDL works)
- !DTOR & !RADEG values more precise             - SVG terminal available via
set_plot, 'svg'             - misc. minor updates in readme/doc files
- several new test routines             - allowing setting history-file lenght
in startup file using !EDIT_INPUT             - handling some out-of-memory
exceptions             - gcc 4.4 compatibility fix             - HDF5: v1.8
compatibility fix             - widgets: some new functionality             -
mapping: support for new LIBPROJ4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 15 2009 - Orion Poplawski  - 0.9-0.7.rc3
- Update to 0.9rc3
- Drop gcc43, ppc64, friend patches fixed upstream
- Add source for makecvstarball
- Rebase antlr patch, add automake source version
- Add conditionals for EPEL builds
- Add %check section
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.9-0.6.rc2.20090312
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gloox-1.0rc3-0.8.SVNr4204.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10672)
 A rock-solid, full-featured Jabber/XMPP client library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version 1.0rc3.                                                            -
Euroelessar (one of qutIM developer, thank you) submit patches:
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=110
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=155
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=154
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=153
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=152
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=151
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=150
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=149          all is important and
rev 4200 at least required.  - Resolved my bugreport
https://mail.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=157
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Pavel Alexeev  - 1.0rc3-0.8.SVNr4204
- New build due resolve my bugreport https://mail.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=157
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Pavel Alexeev  - 1.0rc3-0.7.SVNr4203
- rc3.
- Euroelessar (one of qutIM developer, thank you) submit patches:
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=110
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=155
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=154
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=153
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=152
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=151
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=150
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=149
	all is important and rev 4200 at least required.
- Include UPGRADING to %doc
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528696 - Gloox 1.0.rc3 is out
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528696
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================================================================================
 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10647)
 GStreamer plug-ins with good code and licensing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix autoconvert plugin, as used in Farsight and Totem DVD playback
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-2
- Fix autoconvert caps negotiation
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-1
- Update to 0.10.16
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================================================================================
 gtrayicon-1.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10565)
 Generic tray icon for GNOME
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Gtrayicon is a generic tray icon for GNOME. It defines two actions: activate and
deactivate, that are alternated by clicking in the tray icon. You choose what
commands to run on each action. You can also define each action's icon and a
custom menu that is shown on left click.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524605 - Review Request: gtrayicon - Generic tray icon for GNOME
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524605
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 haproxy-1.3.21-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10551)
 HA-Proxy is a TCP/HTTP reverse proxy for high availability environments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.3.21-1
- update to 1.3.21
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.3.20-1
- update to 1.3.20
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================================================================================
 hercstudio-1.0.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10636)
 GUI front-end to the Hercules mainframe Emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to final 1.0.0 release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 1.0.0-1
- update to 1.0.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 inkscape-0.47-0.16.pre3.20091017svn.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-5931)
 Vector-based drawing program using SVG
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a post-"pre3 preview release" snapshot of Inkscape 0.47.  It won't be
pushed into stable until 0.47 stable is released. Please test.    More in
Inkscape 0.47 release schedule:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Info_for_0.47#Schedule    Please
report non-packaging bugs here:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape    Happy
testing!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep  7 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.16.pre3.20091017svn
- Move to a later snapshot
* Mon Sep  7 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.16.pre3.20090925svn
- Move to a later snapshot
- Drop debugging compiler flags, enable optimizations again
- Make it build on everything since EL5 again
* Mon Sep  7 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.16.pre2.20090907svn
- Move inkview man page to -view subpackage (#515358)
- Add license, etc. to main package
* Mon Sep  7 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.15.pre2.20090907svn
- Update to a post-pre2 snapshot
* Mon Aug 10 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.15.pre1.20090629svn
- Update to a post-pre1 snapshot
- Drop upstreamed CRC32 fix
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.47-0.14.pre0.20090629svn
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Jun 29 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.13.pre0.20090629svn
- Update to a newer snapshot
* Tue Jun 16 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.12.pre0.20090616svn
- Update to post-pre0 snapshot
* Tue Jun  2 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.11.20090602svn
- More recent snapshot
- Upstream removed rasterized icons again
* Sat May 23 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.10.20090518svn
- Rebuild for new poppler
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jakarta-commons-compress-1.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10681)
 Java API for working with tar, zip and bzip2 files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version: 1.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Sandro Mathys  - 1.0-1
- New version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529438 - Update to 1.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529438
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 json_simple-1.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10690)
 Simple Java toolkit for JSON
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

JSON.simple is a simple Java toolkit for JSON. You can use JSON.simple to encode
or decode JSON text.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #521895 - Review Request: json_simple - Simple Java toolkit for JSON
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521895
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Sat Oct  3 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- main virtual subpkg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-2
- rhel cleanup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.3.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-3
- backport upstream patch for bookmark editor drag&drop crash (kde#160679)
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- fix Dolphin crash (regression)
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Sun Sep 27 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-4
- BR: webkitpart-devel
- fix Provides: kdebase4%{?_isa} (not kdelibs)
* Sun Sep 27 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- own %_kde4_appsdir/konqueror/{kpartplugins,icons,opensearch}
- %lang'ify HTML docs
- Provides: kdelibs4%{?_isa}
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.3.2-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Rex Dieter  4.3.2-4
- Conflicts: kdebase4 < 4.3.0 instead
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Rex Dieter  4.3.2-3
- Conflicts: kdebase < 6:4.3.0
- Requires: oxygen-icon-theme >= %{version}
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Rex Dieter  4.3.2-2
- BR: bzip2-devel xz-devel
- -libs: move Requires: kdepimlibs... here
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 4.3.1-4
- fix manpath patch (spotted by Kevin Kofler)
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 4.3.1-3
- if available, use the "manpath" command in the man kioslave to determine man
  page file locations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Fri Sep 25 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-4
- rhel cleanup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.3.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-3
- okular does not handle escaped URL correctly (kde#207461)
* Thu Oct  8 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- rhel cleanup
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.3.2-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Luk?? Tinkl  - 4.3.2-4
- khtml kpart crasher nr. 2 (rev.1033984)
* Thu Oct  8 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-3
- khtml kpart crasher (kde #207173/209876)
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- fix a deadlock in KLocale
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Wed Sep 23 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-7
- move /etc/profile.d/kde4.(sh|csh) to kde-settings (F-12+)
* Mon Sep 21 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-6
- use abrt for RHEL
* Sat Sep 19 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-5
- groupdav connect to egroupware failed (kde#186763)
* Fri Sep 18 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.1-4
- ship kde4-doxygen.sh only in -devel (fix duplicate file)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-experimental-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 KDE libraries with experimental or unstable api/abi
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.3.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-3
- fix BR to be on kdelibs-experimental-devel, not kdelibs-experimental
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- enable jingle
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- %?_isa'ize -libs deps
- BR: webkitpart-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 PIM (Personal Information Manager) applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-6
- rhel cleanup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-runtime-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 KDE PIM Runtime Environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.3.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-2
- microblog/twitter fix (kde#209891)
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.3.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-2
- Fix Kompare diff parsing regression (due to a typo in a bugfix)
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-2
- Requires: kross(python) (#523076)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kernel-2.6.30.9-90.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10639)
 The Linux kernel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to kernel 2.6.30.9. Upstream change logs:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.30.9    Also fixes:
- Kernel stack randomization bug   - NULL dereference in r128 driver   - ftrace
memory corruption on module unload   - boot hanging on some systems   - some
latency problems caused by scheduler bugs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.9-90
- Fix null deref in r128 (F10#487546)
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Chuck Ebbert  2.6.30.9-89
- Keyboard and mouse fixes from 2.6.32 (#522126)
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Chuck Ebbert  2.6.30.9-88
- Scheduler wakeup patch, fixes high latency on wakeup
  (sched-update-the-clock-of-runqueue-select-task-rq-selected.patch)
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Chuck Ebbert  2.6.30.9-87
- Fix uninitialized data leak in netlink (CVE-2009-3612)
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Chuck Ebbert  2.6.30.9-86
- AX.25 security fix (CVE-2009-2909)
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Chuck Ebbert  2.6.30.9-85
- Disable CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_CYPRESS_ATACB because it causes failure
  to boot from USB disks using Cypress bridges (#524998)
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Chuck Ebbert  2.6.30.9-84
- Copy libata drive detection fix from 2.6.31.4 (#524756)
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Chuck Ebbert  2.6.30.9-83
- Networking fixes taken from 2.6.31-stable
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Chuck Ebbert  2.6.30.9-82
- Fix boot hang with ACPI on some systems.
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.9-81
- Critical ftrace fixes:
  ftrace-use-module-notifier-for-function-tracer.patch
  ftrace-check-for-failure-for-all-conversions.patch
  tracing-correct-module-boundaries-for-ftrace_release.patch
* Thu Oct  8 2009 Ben Skeggs      2.6.30.9-80
- ppc: compile nvidiafb as a module only, nvidiafb+nouveau = bang! (rh#491308)
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Dave Jones        2.6.30.9-78
- Disable IRQSOFF tracer. (Adds unnecessary overhead when unused)
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.9-77
- eCryptfs fixes taken from 2.6.31.2 (fixes CVE-2009-2908)
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.9-76
- fix race in forcedeth network driver (#526546)
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.9-75
- x86: Don't leak 64-bit reg contents to 32-bit tasks.
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.9-74
- ACPI EC bug fixes taken from kernel 2.6.32 (#492699, #525681)
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.9-73
- Linux 2.6.30.9
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.9-72.rc3
- Copy stack randomization fix from 2.6.31.2 (F10#526882)
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.9-71.rc3
- Linux 2.6.30.9-rc3
- Drop merged upstream patches:
  linux-2.6-cifs-reenable-lanman-security.patch
  kvm-guest-fix-bogus-wallclock-physical-address-calculation.patch
  kvm-mmu-make-__kvm_mmu_free_some_pages-handle-empty-list.patch
  kvm-vmx-check-cpl-before-emulating-debug-register-access.patch
  kvm-vmx-fix-cr8-exiting-control-clobbering-by-ept.patch
  kvm-x86-disallow-hypercalls-for-guest-callers-in-rings-0.patch
  linux-2.6-kvm-revert-x86-check-for-cr3-validity.patch
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Justin M. Forbes   2.6.30.8-70
- Add linux-2.6-virtio-net-refill-on-out-of-memory.patch, from 2.6.31
  to prevent page allocation failures in guests. (#520119)
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.8-69
- Add linux-2.6-kvm-revert-x86-check-for-cr3-validity.patch, from
  2.6.32-rc, fixes bug #525743
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.8-68
- Drop sched-disable-NEW-FAIR-SLEEPERS-for-now.patch, reported to
  cause problems on 2.6.30.
* Sat Sep 26 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.8-67
- Scheduler fixes cherry-picked from 2.6.32
* Sat Sep 26 2009 Chuck Ebbert   2.6.30.8-66
- Backport "appletalk: Fix skb leak when ipddp interface is not loaded"
  (fixes CVE-2009-2903)
* Sat Sep 26 2009 Chuck Ebbert  2.6.30.8-65
- KVM fixes from 2.6.31.1, including fix for CVE-2009-3290
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524124 - CVE-2009-3290 kernel: KVM: x86: Disallow hypercalls for guest callers in rings > 0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524124
  [ 2 ] Bug #528868 - CVE-2009-3612 kernel: tcf_fill_node() infoleak due to typo in 9ef1d4c7
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528868
  [ 3 ] Bug #522331 - CVE-2009-2903 kernel: appletalk: denial of service when handling IP tunnelled over DDP datagrams
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522331
  [ 4 ] Bug #527534 - CVE-2009-2908 kernel ecryptfs NULL pointer dereference
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527534
  [ 5 ] Bug #528887 - CVE-2009-2909 kernel: ax25 stack overflow
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528887
  [ 6 ] Bug #526788 - CVE-2009-2910 kernel: x86_64 32 bit process register leak
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526788
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================================================================================
 klavaro-1.3.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10576)
 Typing tutor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.3.4-1  -
Updated to new upstream version 1.3.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.3.4-1
- Updated to new upstream version 1.3.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 konversation-1.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10563)
 A user friendly IRC client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Konversation-1.2 final release.      Fixes bug:  * When dragging a link from the
chat text view, the drag object will now contain a plain text version in
addition to the URL version.  This allows dragging a link to places that don't
accept URL drops, such as Konsole, the Konqueror address bar or Konversation's
own input line.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.2-1
- konversation-1.2 (final)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 lensfun-0.2.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10675)
 A library to rectify the defects introduced by your photographic equipment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This release fixes a crasher when built with gcc-4.4.x
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Rex Dieter  0.2.4-1
- lensfun-0.2.4 (#529506)
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.2.3-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529506 - New lensfun 0.2.4 released
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529506
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libgpod-0.7.0-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10661)
 Library to access the contents of an iPod
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes crash with certain iPod libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.7.0-3
- Fix crasher when parsing UTF-16 strings with a BOM (#517642)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #517642 - rhythmbox crashes when started with connected ipod (assertion failed: g_utf8_validate )
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517642
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libgpod-0.7.0-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10678)
 Library to access the contents of an iPod
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix parsing when database contains UTF-16 strings with a BOM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.7.0-4
- Update UTF-16 parsing patch (#517642)
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.7.0-3
- Fix crasher when parsing UTF-16 strings with a BOM (#517642)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #517642 - rhythmbox crashes when started with connected ipod (assertion failed: g_utf8_validate )
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517642
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libvirt-0.6.2-19.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10615)
 Library providing a simple API virtualization
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 0.6.2-19
- Ignore re-labelling errors on NFS (#517157)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #517157 - libvirt fails to start guest on NFS even when sebool virt_use_nfs is on
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517157
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 md5deep-3.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10682)
 A set of cross-platform tools to compute hashes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Paul P. Komkoff Jr  - 3.4-1
- new upstream version
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.1-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-proj-4.6.1-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10658)
 Cartographic projection software (PROJ.4)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

MinGW32 port of the proj package. Proj transforms cartographic data to or from
cartesian data with a wide range of selectable projection functions. Proj docs:
http://www.remotesensing.org/dl/new_docs/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527704 - Review Request: mingw32-proj - MinGW port of the proj cartographic projection library package
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527704
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20090918-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10696)
 Mobile broadband provider database
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update improves mobile broadband support for ZTE, Onda, Sierra, Ericsson,
and Option devices.  In addition, PEAP-GTC support was added, along with VPN,
ethernet carrier detection, and various 802.1x authentication fixes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Sep 18 2009 Dan Williams  - 1.20090918-1
- Update to latest upstream release including:
- Algeria, Australia, Belarus, Belgium, Brazil
- Brunei, Bulgaria, Egypt, Finland, Ghana, Greece
- India, Italy, Kazakhstan, Korean CDMA operators
- Kuwait, Mali, Netherlands, Paraguay, Serbia
- Spain, Sweden, UK
* Tue Aug 11 2009 Bastien Nocera  1.20090707-3
- Add -devel sub-package with pkg-config file (#511318)
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.20090707-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mod_perlite-0.10-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10603)
 Kinder, gentler embedded Perl for the Apache HTTP Server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Chris Weyl  0.10
- update to 0.10
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.09-0.3.git20090314
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 monitor-edid-2.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10618)
 Tool for probing and parsing monitor EDID
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream Changelog    Version 2.4    - monitor-parse-edid:    o ignore the
Manufacturer Specified Range Timing descriptor if the first detailed timing
descriptor appears to violate it (this probably means that the descriptor is
actually something else or in a different format; this fixes Lenovo W500
detection, reported by Udo Rader)    Version 2.3    - monitor-get-edid-using-
vbe:    o update x86emu from xserver git (fixes issues at least with newish
NVIDIA cards)    o check if the port supports DDC before trying to read EDID
data (this should prevent problems when probing nonexistent ports on old cards)
- monitor-edid, monitor-get-edid:    o probe ports 0-2 by default instead of
just 0-1 (many NVIDIA cards seem to be using port 2 and the changes in monitor-
get-edid-using-vbe should make it safe for old problematic NVIDIA cards as well)
Version 2.2    - monitor-edid, monitor-get-edid:    o support getting EDID from
kernel DRM when kernel mode-setting is enabled (Anssi Hannula)  - monitor-probe-
using-X:    o use resolution from LVDS initial mode when X reports that it is
exact, making it work with nouveau driver (Anssi Hannula)    Version 2.1    -
monitor-parse-edid:    o compute and display the "dpi" of the preferred
modelines    o handle parsing of EDIDs found in "xrandr --prop" or Xorg.log  -
monitor-get-edid-using-vbe:    o fix checking the current vt    o instead of
checking vt >= 7 to know if X is running, check wether $DISPLAY is set
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Remi Collet  2.4-1
- new version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mrepo-0.8.6-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10655)
 A tool to set up a yum/apt mirror from various sources
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Change requirement from Apache to any web server.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 0.8.6-5
- Generalize webserver requirement.
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.8.6-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529421 - mrepo package requires httpd exclusively. alternate webservers should satisfy dependencies.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529421
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nfoview-1.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10686)
 Viewer for NFO files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.8-1  - The
icons need now hicolor-icon-theme  - Updated to new upstream version 1.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.8-1
- The icons need now hicolor-icon-theme
- Updated to new upstream version 1.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nfs-utils-1.2.0-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10643)
 NFS utilities and supporting clients and daemons for the kernel NFS server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Steve Dickson  1.2.0-6 
- Rolled back the 1.2.0-5 fix 
- Make sure stack variables are are initialized correctly (bz 528776)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528776 - NFS to remote non-root volume fails as of latest F-11 update
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528776
  [ 2 ] Bug #505535 - mount of from UDP only server fails
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505535
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ocaml-camlimages-3.0.1-7.fc11.3 (FEDORA-2009-10594)
 OCaml image processing library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix handling of oversized TIFF images.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 3.0.1-7.fc11.3
- ocaml-camlimages: TIFF reader multiple integer overflows
  (CVE 2009-3296 / RHBZ#528732).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528732 - CVE-2009-3296 ocaml-camlimages: TIFF reader multiple integer overflows
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528732
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================================================================================
 ocaml-mysql-1.0.4-8.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-10701)
 OCaml library for accessing MySQL databases
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Patch for CVE 2009-2942 Missing escape function (RHBZ#529321).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.0.4-8.fc11.1
- Patch for CVE 2009-2942 Missing escape function (RHBZ#529321).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529321 - CVE-2009-2942 ocaml-mysql: Missing escape function (DSA-1910-1)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529321
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ocaml-postgresql-1.12.3-1.fc11.2 (FEDORA-2009-10633)
 OCaml library for accessing PostgreSQL databases
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- New upstream version 1.12.3.  - This contains a SECURITY fix for:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529325  CVE-2009-2943 ocaml-
postgresql: Missing escape function (DSA-1909-1)  HOWEVER you are not protected
until you change your code to  use the new connection#escape_string method.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.12.3-1.fc11.2
- Fix build process for new upstream tarball layout.
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.12.3-1
- New upstream version 1.12.3.
- This contains a SECURITY fix for:
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529325
  CVE-2009-2943 ocaml-postgresql: Missing escape function (DSA-1909-1)
  HOWEVER you are not protected until you change your code to
  use the new connection#escape_string method.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529325 - CVE-2009-2943 ocaml-postgresql: Missing escape function (DSA-1909-1)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529325
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 octave-3.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10548)
 A high-level language for numerical computations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream Octave (3.2.3).  This is a major upgrade, so please
save your output data before running any new octave scripts.  Other packages
have been rebuilt to match new API (v37).    This may also fix some other
outstanding bugs in the old 3.0.x Octave release, so please upgrade and provide
feedback here, or on the attached bugs if it fixes problems you had with the
3.0.x release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 6:3.2.3-1
- Update to 3.2.3
- Re-add make check
* Tue Sep 22 2009 Rakesh Pandit  - 6:3.2.2-5
- Added categories to desktop file: Education, DataVisualization, NumericalAnalysis
* Mon Sep  7 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 6:3.2.2-4
- Rebuild against new ATLAS
* Sun Sep  6 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 6:3.2.2-3
- Disable make check temporarily to get a build against newly fixed lapack
* Wed Sep  2 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 6:3.2.2-2
- Add make check
* Fri Jul 31 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 6:3.2.2-1
- Update to latest upstream (3.2.2).
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 6:3.2.0-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Jul 13 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 6:3.2.0-2
- Added BR: ftgl-devel for native graphics.
- Dropped obsolete X-Fedora category from desktop file.
- Macro use unifications.
- Branch documentation into its own subpackage.
* Sat Jul 11 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 6:3.2.0-1
- Update to latest upstream (3.2.0).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #525423 - RFE: Octave 3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525423
  [ 2 ] Bug #513381 - octave uses reference blas instead of ATLAS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513381
  [ 3 ] Bug #492155 - octave's function glpk broken due to "undefined symbol: _glp_lib_fault_hook"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492155
  [ 4 ] Bug #524136 - saving graphs in octave
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524136
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 octave-forge-20090607-15.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10548)
 Contributed functions for octave
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream Octave (3.2.3).  This is a major upgrade, so please
save your output data before running any new octave scripts.  Other packages
have been rebuilt to match new API (v37).    This may also fix some other
outstanding bugs in the old 3.0.x Octave release, so please upgrade and provide
feedback here, or on the attached bugs if it fixes problems you had with the
3.0.x release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep  7 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-15
- Re-enable 'fixed' subpackage, builds now, this closes #510841
- ftp, graceplot and spanish packages need fixing upstream, leave
  disabled for the moment
* Mon Sep  7 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-14
- Re-enable java subpackage, now building
- Rebuild against new atlas, fixes the ieee warnings.
* Sun Sep  6 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-13
- Rebuild against new lapack/octave combination to fix ieee problem
* Mon Aug 31 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-12
- Add patch from upstream SVN (r6073) for 'vrml'
- Disable 'fixed' package again, patch fixed the build but fails at
  install-time on i686 probably for similar reasons java- fails to
  install
* Mon Aug 31 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-11
- Fixed shell globbing in build and install sections that missed
  packages with subminor versions (thanks Dmitri Sergatskov)
- Add patch from upstream SVN (r5936) to build fixed-0.7.10 package 
- Renumber patches
* Mon Aug 31 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-10
- Re-enable parallel package, fixed in upstream SVN (diff r5742:6118)
- Disable include patch, now part of parallel patch
* Mon Aug 31 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-9
- Temporarily disable java build again
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-8
- Add patch from upstream SVN (r6098) to fix 'java' build.
- Disable spanish package: doesn't build with Octave 3.2
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-7
- More build failures: remove java, report upstream as (yet) another
  broken package.
* Wed Aug 19 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-6
- More build failures: temporarily disable graceplot, report upstream
  as (yet) another broken package.
* Wed Aug 19 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-5
- Disable 'parallel' and associated patches temporarily just to get
  the whole thing to build and fix broken deps (upstream working on
  it)
* Wed Aug 19 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-4
- Add patch from SVN upstream (r6116) to fix build of parallel package
  (bump version of package to 2.0.1)
* Tue Aug 18 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-3
- Temporarily remove ftp because of build problems with SWIG upstream.
* Sat Aug  1 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-2
- Add patch from SVN (r6006) which has SWIG fixes for ann module.
* Fri Jul 31 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-1
- Apply patch from Jussi Lehtola  to
  update to 20090607
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 20080831-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Jul  9 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20080831-9
- Rebuild for dependencies
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #525423 - RFE: Octave 3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525423
  [ 2 ] Bug #513381 - octave uses reference blas instead of ATLAS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513381
  [ 3 ] Bug #492155 - octave's function glpk broken due to "undefined symbol: _glp_lib_fault_hook"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492155
  [ 4 ] Bug #524136 - saving graphs in octave
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524136
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openscada-0.6.4-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10579)
 Open SCADA system project
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.4-2
- Added of Obsoletes directive by Peter Lemenkov .
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.4-1
- The change version for release 0.6.4
- Moved Ui-VCAEngine module to the self package
- Removed QTStarter module from the main package
- Added the virtual plc, server, visStation packages
- Some cosmetics
- Fixed somes bugs Peter Lemenkov .
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.4-1
- Adding self module ICP_DAS
- Fixed Germany Language translations by Popkova Irina
- Delete openscada-0.6.3.3-openssl.patch from previouns version
- Adding the next version of the package.
* Tue Sep  1 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.3-13
- Adding Requires for webcfg, webcfgd, webvision, http and snmp
- Some cosmetics.
* Tue Aug 25 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 0.6.3.3-12
- rebuilt with new openssl
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Popkov Aleksey  - 0.6.3.3-11
- Fixed of macros find_lang for epel-5 by Peter Lemenkov .
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.6.3.3-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild.
* Tue Jul 14 2009 Popkov Aleksey  0.6.3.3-9
- Adding find_lang macros by Peter Lemenkov 
- Somes cosmetics.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openvrml-0.18.3-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10663)
 VRML/X3D player and runtime library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-6
- Copy README, etc. to %{_docdir} in %install so that we can use absolute
  paths with %doc; the relative form invokes an rm -rf that blows away the
  Doxygen docs.
- Moved libopenvrml.so.* to libopenvrml subpackage.
- Moved libopenvrml-gl.so.* to libopenvrml-gl subpackage.
- Moved node implementations to openvrml-nodes subpackage.
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Braden McDaniel  
- Moved jar file and javadoc to openvrml-java subpackage.
- Put openvrml-doc package contents in %{_docdir}/%{name}-%{version}.
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-5
- Actually remove Java and JavaScript backends from the main package.
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-4
- Separate the Java and JavaScript scripting backends into subpackages.
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-3
- Reqire mesa-libGLU-devel since there is no arch-specific libGLU-devel.
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-2
- Arch-independent Requires are not safe for multilib systems when a
  specific architecture is needed.
* Thu Aug 13 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-1
- Updated to 0.18.3.
* Thu Jul 23 2009 Braden McDaniel  
- Made dependencies on gecko-libs and java arch-specific.
- Removed unnecessary (redundant) dependencies on libGLU-devel and
  libXmu-devel.
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================================================================================
 oxygen-icon-theme-4.3.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10471)
 Oxygen icon theme
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pfstools-1.7.0-8.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10548)
 Programs for handling high-dynamic range images
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream Octave (3.2.3).  This is a major upgrade, so please
save your output data before running any new octave scripts.  Other packages
have been rebuilt to match new API (v37).    This may also fix some other
outstanding bugs in the old 3.0.x Octave release, so please upgrade and provide
feedback here, or on the attached bugs if it fixes problems you had with the
3.0.x release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.7.0-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Jun  9 2009 Ville Skytt?  - 1.7.0-7
- Patch to generate useful debuginfo subpackage (#499912).
- Disable autotools dependency tracking during build for cleaner build logs
  and possible slight build speedup.
* Sun May 10 2009 Ulrich Drepper  - 1.7.0-6
- fix up spec file.  Remove unnecessary code.
- fix comparison of strings
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #525423 - RFE: Octave 3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525423
  [ 2 ] Bug #513381 - octave uses reference blas instead of ATLAS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513381
  [ 3 ] Bug #492155 - octave's function glpk broken due to "undefined symbol: _glp_lib_fault_hook"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492155
  [ 4 ] Bug #524136 - saving graphs in octave
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524136
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 plplot-5.9.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10548)
 Library of functions for making scientific plots
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream Octave (3.2.3).  This is a major upgrade, so please
save your output data before running any new octave scripts.  Other packages
have been rebuilt to match new API (v37).    This may also fix some other
outstanding bugs in the old 3.0.x Octave release, so please upgrade and provide
feedback here, or on the attached bugs if it fixes problems you had with the
3.0.x release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 28 2009 - Orion Poplawski  - 5.9.5-1
- Update to 5.9.5
- Disable qt tests for now until Xvfb bug is fixed.
- Remove ocaml dep code for now - breaks other dep generation
* Wed Aug 26 2009 - Orion Poplawski  - 5.9.4-8
- Update octave patch to hopefully fix remaining issue.
- Re-enable tests
* Wed Aug 26 2009 - Orion Poplawski  - 5.9.4-7
- Add patch from svn to support pdl 2.4.4_05
- Force using gfortran
* Wed Aug 26 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 5.9.4-6
- Build with perl package re-enabled
* Wed Aug 26 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 5.9.4-5
- Temporarily disable check to fix broken deps in rawhide
- Attempt bootstrap build without pdl
* Thu Aug 13 2009 - Orion Poplawski  - 5.9.4-4
- Add patch to support octave 3.2
* Sat Aug  1 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 5.9.4-3
- Rebuilt against updated Octave.
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 5.9.4-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #525423 - RFE: Octave 3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525423
  [ 2 ] Bug #513381 - octave uses reference blas instead of ATLAS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513381
  [ 3 ] Bug #492155 - octave's function glpk broken due to "undefined symbol: _glp_lib_fault_hook"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492155
  [ 4 ] Bug #524136 - saving graphs in octave
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524136
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pspp-0.6.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10642)
 A program for statistical analysis of sampled data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ver. 0.6.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Peter Lemenkov  0.6.2-1
- Ver. 0.6.2
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.6.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pyserial-2.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10682)
 Python serial port access library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Paul P Komkoff Jr  - 2.4-1
- new upstream version
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.2-9
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-suds-0.3.7-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10585)
 A python SOAP client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Release version 0.3.7 which contains bug fixes and enhancements.    - Better
soap header support  - Added new transport HttpAuthenticated for active (not
passive) basic authentication.  - New options (prefixes, timeout, retxml)  -
WSDL processing enhancements.  - Expanded builtin XSD type support.  - Fixed
  - Better XML date/datetime conversion.  - Client.clone() method
added for lightweight copy of client object.  - XSD processing
fixes/enhancements.  - Better  by  support.  -
Performance enhancements.  - Fixed tickets: #65, #232, #233, #235, #241, #242,
#244, #247, #254, #254, #256, #257, #258
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 jortel  - 0.3.7-1
- Better soap header support
- Added new transport HttpAuthenticated for active (not passive) basic authentication.
- New options (prefixes, timeout, retxml)
- WSDL processing enhancements.
- Expanded builtin XSD type support.
- Fixed 
- Better XML date/datetime conversion.
- Client.clone() method added for lightweight copy of client object.
- XSD processing fixes/enhancements.
- Better  by  support.
- Performance enhancements. 
- Fixed tickets: #65, #232, #233, #235, #241, #242, #244, #247, #254, #254, #256, #257, #258
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.3.6-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qemu-0.10.6-8.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10591)
 QEMU is a FAST! processor emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 2:0.10.6-8
- Fix potential segfault from too small MSR_COUNT (#528901)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528901 - qemu-kvm : msrs[] array in kvm_arch_save_regs() too small / may cause stack corruption
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528901
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================================================================================
 qtcurve-gtk2-0.69.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10552)
 This is a set of widget styles for Gtk2 based apps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

QtCurve is a desktop theme for the GTK+ and Qt widget toolkits,  allowing users
to achieve a uniform look between these widget toolkits.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qtcurve-kde4-0.69.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10620)
 This is a set of widget styles for Qt4/KDE4 based apps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

QtCurve is a desktop theme for the GTK+ and Qt widget toolkits,  allowing users
to achieve a uniform look between these widget toolkits.  This is a set of
widget styles for Qt4/KDE4 based apps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 roundup-1.4.10-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10682)
 Simple and flexible issue-tracking system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Paul P. Komkoff Jr  - 1.4.10-1
- new upstream version
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.4.6-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-activerecord-2.3.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10708)
 Implements the ActiveRecord pattern for ORM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Backport fix for default values on MySQL Binary and VarBinary columns
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Jeroen van Meeuwen  - 1:2.3.2-3
- Backport fix for default values on MySQL Binary and VarBinary columns
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-git-1.2.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10606)
 A package for using Git in Ruby code
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream version, we were lagging behind! Sorry!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Jeroen van Meeuwen  - 1.2.4-1
- New upstream version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sdparm-1.04-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10680)
 List or change SCSI/SATA disk parameters
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to new stable release 1.04
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 1.04-1
- 1.04
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 selinux-policy-3.6.12-86.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10621)
 SELinux policy configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Allow xdm to unlink xauth_home_t
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Miroslav Grepl  3.6.12-86
- Allow xdm to unlink xauth_home_t
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 setup-2.8.3-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10401)
 A set of system configuration and setup files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- adjust /dev/pts fstab line if broken by installation    (#515521)  - use 
scriptlet for deleting .rpmnew files in correct way
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Ondrej Vasik  2.8.3-3
- adjust sed expression fixing #515521 to be more generic
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Ondrej Vasik  2.8.3-2
- adjust /dev/pts fstab line if broken by installation
  (#515521)
- use  scriptlet for deleting files in correct way
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #515521 - SELinux is preventing qemu-kvm (svirt_t) "setrlimit" svirt_t.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=515521
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================================================================================
 skrooge-0.5.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10549)
 Personal finances manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- (HTML) docs patch, use %%find_lang --with-kde  - own
%%{_kde4_appsdir}/skrooge*/ dirs  - %check: omit extraneous desktop-file-
validate's
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Rex Dieter  0.5.2-2
- (HTML) docs patch, use %find_lang --with-kde
- own %{_kde4_appsdir}/skrooge*/ dirs
- %check
unset DISPLAY
: omit extraneous desktop-file-validate's
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528944 - Missing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 4.3.2 is needed by package skrooge-libs-0.5.2-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528944
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================================================================================
 thunar-vcs-plugin-0.1.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10695)
 SVN integration for the Thunar filemanager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The Thunar VCS Plugin adds Subversion actions to the context menu of Thunar.
This gives a SVN integration to Thunar.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529465 - Review Request: thunar-vcs-plugin - SVN integration for the Thunar filemanager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529465
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================================================================================
 tito-0.1.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10709)
 A tool for managing rpm based git projects
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of Tito, a tool for building rpm based projects in git.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tokyotyrant-1.1.35-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10676)
 A network interface to Tokyo Cabinet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 translate-toolkit-1.4.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10601)
 Tools to assist with translation and software localization
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 1.4.1  - Better support for printf (including numbered) variables (bug
1118)  - Fixes for the upcoming Pootle, including combined searches (bug 1036)
- subtle bug in tmserver handling of the percent sign (%) (bug 1101)  - obsolete
messages seen as translatable (bug 1114)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

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================================================================================
 tucan-0.3.9-0.1.alpha.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10698)
 Manager for downloads and uploads at hosting sites
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

new upstream release includes a patch for shutdown. (very ubuntu-like) I hate
sudo
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Simon Wesp  - 0.3.9-0.1.alpha
- New upstream release
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.3.8-0.2.alpha
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528427 - Won't update to 0.3.9 for stable fedora releases
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528427
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================================================================================
 uncrustify-0.54-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10656)
 Reformat Source
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

see http://uncrustify.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Neal Becker  - 0.54-1
- Update to 0.54
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.52-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
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================================================================================
 unuran-1.4.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10623)
 Universal Non-Uniform Random number generator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to 1.4.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Neal Becker  - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.1-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 valide-0.5.1-0.20.20091019svn425.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10688)
 An integrated development environment (IDE) for the Vala programming language
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to newest release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Jonathan MERCIER  0.5.1-0.20.20091019svn425
- Bug fix
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Jonathan MERCIER  0.5.1-0.19.20091019svn425
- Bug fix
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Jonathan MERCIER  0.5.1-0.18.20091019svn425
- Update valide to revision 425
- Some bug fix
* Tue Sep  1 2009 Jonathan MERCIER  0.5.1-0.17.20090825svn385
- Update valide to revision 385
- Some bug fix
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================================================================================
 vhostmd-0.4-0.2.gitea2f772d.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10578)
 Virtualization host metrics daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- New upstream based on git ea2f772d.  - Update the configuration file based on
upstream changes to how virsh    has to be run.  - vhostmd should run non-root
as user 'vhostmd'.  - Allow libvirt URI to be configured.
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================================================================================
 vhostmd-0.4-0.5.gite9db007b.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10614)
 Virtualization host metrics daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- New upstream based on git e9db007b. - Fix segfault in vm-dump-metrics
(RHBZ#529348). - On error, vm-dump-metrics now exits with status code 1.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529348 - Running vm-dump-metrics on KVM guest produces Segmentation fault if metrics disk is not attached
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529348
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================================================================================
 virtaal-0.4.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10666)
 Localization and translation editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.4.1  - New translations: Turkish, Finnish, Vietnamese  - Updated
translations: Russian, Dutch and Zulu  - More complete handling of "recent
files" (bug 1120)  - Better alignment with the GNOME human interface guidelines
(bug 1095)  - More reliable ways of obtaining the default font settings (bug
1092)  - Better handling of HTML tags in the Apertium MT module  - Small layout
improvements (bug 1045, 1138)  - Depend on Translate Toolkit 1.4.1 for fixes to
XLIFF, placeable and tmserver
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Dwayne Bailey  - 0.4.1-1
- Update to 0.4.1
   - New translations: Turkish, Finnish, Vietnamese
   - Updated translations: Russian, Dutch and Zulu
   - More complete handling of "recent files" (bug 1120)
   - Better alignment with the GNOME human interface guidelines (bug 1095)
   - More reliable ways of obtaining the default font settings (bug 1092)
   - Better handling of HTML tags in the Apertium MT module
   - Small layout improvements (bug 1045, 1138)
- Depend on Translate Toolkit 1.4.1 for fixes to XLIFF, placeable and tmserver
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 vsftpd-2.1.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10706)
 Very Secure Ftp Daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

little back ported bug fix in init script
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Jiri Skala  - 2.1.2-2
- back ported fix #524208 - Error message when starting vsftpd service with multiple conf...
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================================================================================
 webacula-3.3-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10550)
 Web interface of a Bacula backup system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Webacula - Web Bacula - web interface of a Bacula backup system. Supports the
run Job, restore all files or selected files, restore the most recent backup for
a client, restore backup for a client before a specified time, mount/umount
Storages, show scheduled, running and terminated Jobs and more. Supported
languages: English, French, German, Portuguese Brazil, Russian.
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================================================================================
 wxGTK-2.8.10-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10638)
 GTK2 port of the wxWidgets GUI library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

added a fix for excessive CPU usage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 2.8.10-3
- add fix for excessive CPU usage (#494425)
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================================================================================
 xfce4-panel-4.6.2-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10572)
 Next generation panel for Xfce
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update includes a lot of fixes and updates many of the translations. More
information on the bugs can be found at bugzilla.xfce.org (Bugs #2957, #5218,
#5222, #5301, #5352, #5045, #5454, and #5507).
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ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 4.6.2-1
- Update to 4.6.2
- Drop explicit requires on Terminal and mousepad
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 4.6.1-4
- Add xfswitch-plugin to default panel config (#525563)
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 4.6.1-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
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================================================================================
 xmltooling-1.2.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10609)
 XML signing and encrytion library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The XMLTooling library contains generic XML parsing and processing  classes
based on the Xerces-C DOM. It adds more powerful facilities  for declaring
element- and type-specific API and implementation  classes to add value around
the DOM, as well as signing and encryption support.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527308 - Review Request: xmltooling - XML signing and encrytion library
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527308
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================================================================================
 xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.2.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10659)
 Xorg X11 evdev input driver
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Clean up middle button emulation to avoid segfaults on device unplug.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Peter Hutterer  2.2.6-1
- evdev 2.2.6 (Fix for #483297)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #483297 - X server crash on USB HUB random reset
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483297
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================================================================================
 xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-1.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-10683)
 Xorg X11 openchrome video driver
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream stable version : VX800 and VX855 support, panel code enhancement,
assorted bugfixes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Xavier Bachelot  - 0.2.904-1.1
- Don't call autoconf.
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Xavier Bachelot  - 0.2.904-1
- openchrome 0.2.904.
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 yaml-cpp-0.2.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10692)
 A YAML parser and emitter for C++
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

yaml-cpp is a YAML parser and emitter in C++ written around the YAML 1.2 spec
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529016 - Review Request: yaml-cpp - A YAML parser and emitter for C++
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529016
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yaz-3.0.49-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10590)
 Z39.50/SRW/SRU programs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream 3.0.49 (with bugfixes and feature enhancements)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Guido Grazioli  - 3.0.49-1
- Upstream 3.0.49 (bugfixes and feature enhancements)
- Require pkgconfig for libyaz-devel (guidelines MUST)
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.0.46-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 21 00:59:00 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:59:00 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091021005900.61D0410F8C5@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    EMBOSS-6.1.0-5.fc10
    NetPIPE-3.7.1-2.fc10
    NetworkManager-0.7.1.997-1.fc10
    afraid-dyndns-1.1-2.fc10
    audacious-plugins-1.5.1-12.fc10
    beanstalkd-1.4.2-1.fc10
    bitlbee-1.2.4-1.fc10
    cas-0.15-1.fc10
    claws-mail-3.7.3-1.fc10
    claws-mail-plugins-3.7.3-1.fc10
    colossus-0.9.3-1.fc10
    drehatlas-warender-bibliothek-fonts-1.0.1.1-1.fc10
    drehatlas-widelands-fonts-1.0.2.2-6.fc10
    fbreader-0.10.7-4.fc10
    fuse-encfs-1.5-10.fc10
    gargi-fonts-1.9-2.fc10
    gloox-1.0rc3-0.8.SVNr4204.fc10
    gtrayicon-1.1-2.fc10
    haproxy-1.3.21-1.fc10
    hercstudio-1.0.0-1.fc10
    inkscape-0.47-0.16.pre3.20091017svn.fc10
    jakarta-commons-compress-1.0-1.fc10
    kde-l10n-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdeaccessibility-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdeadmin-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdeartwork-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdebase-4.3.2-3.fc10
    kdebase-runtime-4.3.2-4.fc10
    kdebase-workspace-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdebindings-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdeedu-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdegames-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdegraphics-4.3.2-3.fc10
    kdelibs-4.3.2-4.fc10
    kdelibs-experimental-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdemultimedia-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdenetwork-4.3.2-3.fc10
    kdepim-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdepim-runtime-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdepimlibs-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdeplasma-addons-4.3.2-2.fc10
    kdesdk-4.3.2-2.fc10
    kdetoys-4.3.2-1.fc10
    kdeutils-4.3.2-1.fc10
    md5deep-3.4-1.fc10
    mingw32-proj-4.6.1-4.fc10
    mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20090918-1.fc10
    monitor-edid-2.4-1.fc10
    mrepo-0.8.6-5.fc10
    ocaml-camlimages-3.0.1-3.fc10.3
    ocaml-mysql-1.0.4-3.fc10.1
    ocaml-postgresql-1.12.3-1.fc10.2
    openscada-0.6.4-2.fc10
    oxygen-icon-theme-4.3.2-1.fc10
    pspp-0.6.2-1.fc10
    pyserial-2.4-1.fc10
    python-sprox-0.6.3-1.fc10
    python-suds-0.3.7-1.fc10
    qtcurve-gtk2-0.69.0-1.fc10
    qtcurve-kde4-0.69.0-1.fc10
    roundup-1.4.10-1.fc10
    sdparm-1.04-1.fc10
    skrooge-0.5.2-2.fc10
    thunar-vcs-plugin-0.1.0-1.fc10
    tucan-0.3.9-0.1.alpha.fc10
    uncrustify-0.54-1.fc10
    unuran-1.4.1-1.fc10
    vsftpd-2.0.7-3.fc10
    wxGTK-2.8.10-3.fc10
    yaz-3.0.49-1.fc10
    yum-3.2.24-2.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 EMBOSS-6.1.0-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10641)
 The European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a new package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496133 - Review Request: EMBOSS - The European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496133
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================================================================================
 NetPIPE-3.7.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10602)
 Protocol independent performance tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of this package, which can be used to test network performance.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528847 - Review Request: Netpipe - A protocol independent network performance tool
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528847
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 NetworkManager-0.7.1.997-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10546)
 Network connection manager and user applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update improves mobile broadband support for ZTE, Onda, Sierra, Ericsson,
Cmotech, and Option devices. In addition, PEAP-GTC support was added, along with
VPN, ethernet carrier detection, various 802.1x authentication fixes, and DHCP
behavior improvements.  Support for saving system-wide wifi and ethernet
connections as traditional 'ifcfg' in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts has also
been added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Dan Williams  - 0.7.1.997-1
- nm: add support for PEAP-GTC (rh #451027)
- nm: ensure VPN secrets aren't re-used when they shouldn't be
- nm: fix race causing erroneous ethernet carrier change events
- nm: fixes for ZTE, Onda, and Sierra modem detection and operation
- nm: enhanced support for Ericsson 'mbm' modems
- nm: enhanced support for AT&T Quicksilver and Option iCON 505
- nm: work around PPP bug returning bogus nameservers
- editor: fix editing system-wide VPN connections
- applet: PEAP, TTLS, and wired 802.1x fixes
- applet: install GConf schemas
- applet: fix default focus for passphrase dialogs
- applet: translation updates
* Thu Jul  9 2009 Dan Williams  - 0.7.1-8.git20090708
- applet: fix crash on error claiming D-Bus service (rh #519408)
* Thu Jul  9 2009 Dan Williams  - 0.7.1-8.git20090708
- applet: fix certificate validation in hidden wifi networks dialog (rh #508207)
* Wed Jul  8 2009 Dan Williams  - 0.7.1-7.git20090708
- nm: fixes for ZTE/Onda modem detection
- nm: prevent re-opening serial port when the SIM has a PIN
- applet: updated translations
- editor: show list column headers
* Thu Jun 25 2009 Dan Williams  - 0.7.1-6.git20090617
- nm: fix serial port settings
* Wed Jun 17 2009 Dan Williams  - 0.7.1-5.git20090617
- nm: fix AT&T Quicksilver modem connections (rh #502002)
- nm: fix support for s390 bus types (rh #496820)
- nm: fix detection of some CMOtech modems
- nm: handle unsolicited wifi scans better
- nm: resolv.conf fixes when using DHCP and overriding search domains
- nm: handle WEP and WPA passphrases (rh #441070)
- nm: fix removal of old APs when none are scanned
- nm: fix Huawei EC121 and EC168C detection and handling (rh #496426)
- applet: save WEP and WPA passphrases instead of hashed keys (rh #441070)
- applet: fix broken notification bubble actions
- applet: default to WEP encryption for Ad-Hoc network creation
- applet: fix crash when connection editor dialogs are canceled
- applet: add a mobile broadband provider wizard
* Tue May 19 2009 Karsten Hopp  0.7.1-4.git20090414.1
- drop ExcludeArch s390 s390x, we need at least the header files
* Tue May  5 2009 Adam Jackson  1:0.7.1-4.git20090414
- nm-save-the-leases.patch: Use per-connection lease files, and don't delete
  them on interface deactivate.
* Thu Apr 16 2009 Dan Williams  - 1:0.7.1-3.git20090414
- ifcfg-rh: fix problems noticing changes via inotify (rh #495884)
* Tue Apr 14 2009 Dan Williams  - 1:0.7.1-2.git20090414
- ifcfg-rh: enable write support for wired and wifi connections
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 afraid-dyndns-1.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10610)
 A dynamic DNS client for the free service afraid.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

modified for OSX support  enhanced to handle single host names
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #522988 - Review Request: afraid-dyndns - A dynamic DNS client for the free service afraid.org
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522988
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 audacious-plugins-1.5.1-12.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10574)
 Plugins for the Audacious media player
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Patch "pulse_audio" output plugin to not get confused by volume level changes
passed in via callback. Volume level now doesn't change when starting the next
track.  * Patch alsa-ng plugin with some buffer prefilling to fight underruns.
* Merge minor changes from 2.2 alpha1 alsa-ng plugin.    [Please note that if
you use external mixers / volume controls  to alter the volume level, Audacious
older than 2.2 (which is still being developed) does not reflect that with its
own volume slider. So, if you switch between multiple volume controls often, you
can experience big jumps in volume level going up/down.]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-12
- Patch pulseaudio plugin to not get confused by volume values passed
  in via callback.
* Sat Sep 19 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-11
- Patch alsa-ng plugin with some buffer prefilling to fight underruns.
- Merge minor changes from 2.2 alpha1 alsa-ng plugin.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 beanstalkd-1.4.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10564)
 A simple, fast workqueue service
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.4.2-1
- update to upstream 1.4.2
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.4-0
- update to upstream 1.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bitlbee-1.2.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10612)
 IRC to other chat networks gateway
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream changes for BitlBee 1.2.4:  - Most important change (and main reason
for releasing now): Upgraded Yahoo! module to a newer version to get it working
again.  - join_chat command replaced with the much better chat command:    *
Similar to how account replaced login/slist/logout. Add a chatroom once, then
just /join it like any other room. Also automatic joining at login time is now
possible.    * Note that the old way of starting groupchats (/join #nickname) is
now also deprecated, use "chat with" instead.    * See "help chat" and "help
chat add" for more information.  - Rewrote bitlbee.conf parser to be less dumb.
- Fixed compatibility (hopefully) with AIM mobile messages, certain kinds of
Google Talk chatrooms.  - Fixed numerous stability/reliability bugs over the
last year.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Robert Scheck  1.2.4-1
- Upgrade to 1.2.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cas-0.15-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10670)
 Tool to analyze and configure core file environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

replace func with paramiko
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Adam Stokes  - 0.15-1
- Require paramiko for all remote executions
- Rip out func code
- Documentation update to include ssh setup
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.14-11
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 claws-mail-3.7.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10665)
 The extended version of Sylpheed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Andreas Bierfert 
- 3.7.3-1
- version upgrade (including gtk 2.18 fixes #527065)
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.7.2-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 claws-mail-plugins-3.7.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10665)
 Additional plugins for claws-mail
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Andreas Bierfert 
- 3.7.3-1
- version upgrade
- new plugins bsfilter, python
* Fri Aug  7 2009 Andreas Bierfert 
- 3.7.2-3
- fix crash in fancy plugin (#515373)
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.7.2-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 colossus-0.9.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10684)
 Allows people to play Titan against each other or AIs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Rebase to 0.9.3  - Adjust script for grabbing source to be able to grab from
branches  - Fixed 2877055: Some GUI preferences don't load on startup  - Fixed:
2864777 Illegal rangestrike over walls  - Do not choose Experimental AI as "A
Random AI" because it occasionally crashes  - Fixed: 2859914 Balrog placement
ignores score (aka: Balrog every 300 again, no  t 50)  - Fixed: 2864790 Aborting
load game with remote player - No GetPlayers dialog  - Fixed: 2838276 "my Strike
Skill" is wrong for nonnatives to bramble (actually,   just improved the dialog
to make it's meaning clearer)  - Fixed: 2855208 Balrog exception in V0.9.2
(ConcurrentModificationException)  - See:
http://colossus.sourceforge.net/docs/RecentChangesDetails.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Bruno Wolff III  - 0.9.3-1
- Rebase to 0.9.3
- Adjust script for grabbing source to be able to grab from branches
- Fixed 2877055: Some GUI preferences don't load on startup
- Fixed: 2864777 Illegal rangestrike over walls
- Do not choose Experimental AI as "A Random AI" because it occasionally crashes
- Fixed: 2859914 Balrog placement ignores score (aka: Balrog every 300 again, not 50)
- Fixed: 2864790 Aborting load game with remote player - No GetPlayers dialog
- Fixed: 2838276 "my Strike Skill" is wrong for nonnatives to bramble (actually, just improved the dialog to make it's meaning clearer)
- Fixed: 2855208 Balrog exception in V0.9.2 (ConcurrentModificationException)
- See: http://colossus.sourceforge.net/docs/RecentChangesDetails.html
* Sun Sep  6 2009 Bruno Wolff III  - 0.9.2-1.20090906svn4519
- Rebase to 0.9.2
- See: http://colossus.sourceforge.net/docs/RecentChangesDetails.html
- Fixed: 2835558 WARNING: Could not find creature with name none
- Fixed: 2820231 Illegal rangestrike
- Fixed: 2848651 and 2828028: Legion flyouts
- Fixed: 2837746 Balrog variant: Caretaker counts not reset between games
- Fixed: 2839241 Faulty anchor tags (Crossreference links in docs worked for Inetnet Explorer but not for Netscape)
- Make loading and saving of Balrog games work
- Make Auto Done act properly when there is no Recruit action or undo possible
- Add in save game also a property that tells with which release / revision of Colossus that save game was created.
- Eliminated some race situations in game startup (thread interaction/notifications)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 drehatlas-warender-bibliothek-fonts-1.0.1.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10710)
 A Latin typeface that is decorative, surreal, and hairy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This font was created by Peter Schwanemann and originally based on a hand drawn
font created for a Pen & Paper RPG. Nowadays the font gets more and more
complete and should give the possibility of creating fantasy and/or decorative
logos, headings and other texts.  The font was not created to be used in normal
texts, as it is too complex and not as easy to read as a simple sans serif font.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529494 - Review Request: drehatlas-warender-bibliothek-fonts - A decorative, hairy font
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529494
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 drehatlas-widelands-fonts-1.0.2.2-6.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10593)
 A Latin typeface inspired by feudal calligraphy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This font was created by Nasenbaer as a logo for the Widelands project, but has
since been enhanced.  The font is decorative and not really usable for body
texts, but it looks nice for logos, banners or similar stuff.  All normal latin
glyphs and arabic numbers are included and usable.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528949 - Review Request: oflb-Widelands-fonts - Widelands font
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528949
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fbreader-0.10.7-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10608)
 E-book reader
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Michel Salim  - 0.10.7-4
- Provide virtual packages for each available interface
- Use alternatives to select the user interface (see README.Fedora)
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Michel Salim  - 0.10.7-3
- Split out zlibrary and zlibrary-ui subpackages (fixes bz# 523946)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #523946 - RFE: Offer a sub-package for FBReader's Qt 4 GUI
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523946
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 fuse-encfs-1.5-10.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10592)
 Encrypted pass-thru filesystem in userspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Added versioned Requires for boost-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Peter Lemenkov  1.5-10
- Added version in Requires for boost-devel
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Peter Lemenkov  1.5-9
- rebuilt with new fuse
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 1.5-8
- rebuilt with new openssl
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.5-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Mar  3 2009 Caol?n McNamara  - 1.5-6
- constify ret of strchr(const char*)
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.5-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Jan 16 2009 Tomas Mraz  1.5-4
- rebuild with new openssl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gargi-fonts-1.9-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10712)
 A Devanagari font
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #526633 - Review Request: gargi-fonts - A Devanagari font
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526633
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gloox-1.0rc3-0.8.SVNr4204.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10577)
 A rock-solid, full-featured Jabber/XMPP client library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version 1.0rc3.                                                            -
Euroelessar (one of qutIM developer, thank you) submit patches:
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=110
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=155
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=154
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=153
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=152
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=151
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=150
http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=149          all is important and
rev 4200 at least required.  - Resolved my bugreport
https://mail.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=157
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Pavel Alexeev  - 1.0rc3-0.8.SVNr4204
- New build due resolve my bugreport https://mail.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=157
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Pavel Alexeev  - 1.0rc3-0.7.SVNr4203
- rc3.
- Euroelessar (one of qutIM developer, thank you) submit patches:
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=110
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=155
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=154
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=153
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=152
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=151
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=150
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=149
	all is important and rev 4200 at least required.
- Include UPGRADING to %doc
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528696 - Gloox 1.0.rc3 is out
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528696
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gtrayicon-1.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10587)
 Generic tray icon for GNOME
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Gtrayicon is a generic tray icon for GNOME. It defines two actions: activate and
deactivate, that are alternated by clicking in the tray icon. You choose what
commands to run on each action. You can also define each action's icon and a
custom menu that is shown on left click.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524605 - Review Request: gtrayicon - Generic tray icon for GNOME
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524605
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 haproxy-1.3.21-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10555)
 HA-Proxy is a TCP/HTTP reverse proxy for high availability environments
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.3.21-1
- update to 1.3.21
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.3.20-1
- update to 1.3.20
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 hercstudio-1.0.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10581)
 GUI front-end to the Hercules mainframe Emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to final 1.0.0 release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 1.0.0-1
- update to 1.0.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 inkscape-0.47-0.16.pre3.20091017svn.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-5824)
 Vector-based drawing program using SVG
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a post-"pre3 preview release" snapshot of Inkscape 0.47.  It won't be
pushed into stable until 0.47 stable is released. Please test.    More in
Inkscape 0.47 release schedule:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Info_for_0.47#Schedule    Please
report non-packaging bugs here:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape    Happy
testing!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep  7 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.16.pre3.20091017svn
- Move to a later snapshot
* Mon Sep  7 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.16.pre3.20090925svn
- Move to a later snapshot
- Drop debugging compiler flags, enable optimizations again
- Make it build on everything since EL5 again
* Mon Sep  7 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.16.pre2.20090907svn
- Move inkview man page to -view subpackage (#515358)
- Add license, etc. to main package
* Mon Sep  7 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.15.pre2.20090907svn
- Update to a post-pre2 snapshot
* Mon Aug 10 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.15.pre1.20090629svn
- Update to a post-pre1 snapshot
- Drop upstreamed CRC32 fix
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.47-0.14.pre0.20090629svn
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Jun 29 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.13.pre0.20090629svn
- Update to a newer snapshot
* Tue Jun 16 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.12.pre0.20090616svn
- Update to post-pre0 snapshot
* Tue Jun  2 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.11.20090602svn
- More recent snapshot
- Upstream removed rasterized icons again
* Sat May 23 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.10.20090518svn
- Rebuild for new poppler
* Mon May 18 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.9.20090518svn
- Update past upstream Beta release
* Mon May 18 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.8.20090508svn
- Fix ODG export
* Fri May  8 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.7.20090508svn
- Update to a post-alpha snapshot
- Upstream applied our GCC 4.4 patch
* Fri Apr 10 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.6.20090410svn
- Update to newer snapshot
- Fix doc/incview reversed subpackage content
* Wed Mar  4 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.6.20090301svn
- Rebuild for new ImageMagick
* Wed Mar  4 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.5.20090301svn
- Split documentation and inkview into subpackages
* Mon Mar  2 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.4.20090301svn
- Bump to later SVN snapshot to fix inkscape/+bug/331864
- Fix a startup crash when compiled with GCC 4.4
- It even runs now! :)
* Fri Feb 27 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.4.20090227svn
- Enable the test suite
* Fri Feb 27 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.3.20090227svn
- Past midnight! :)
- More recent snapshot, our gcc44 fixes now upstream
- One more gcc44 fix, it even compiles now
- We install icons now, update icon cache
- Disable inkboard, for it won't currently compile
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 0.47-0.3.20090226svn
- Later snapshot
- Compile with GCC 4.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 jakarta-commons-compress-1.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10629)
 Java API for working with tar, zip and bzip2 files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New version: 1.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529438 - Update to 1.0
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529438
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kde-l10n-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 Internationalization support for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Sat Oct  3 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- main virtual subpkg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeaccessibility-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Accessibility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeadmin-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Administrative tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeartwork-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 Additional artwork for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-2
- rhel cleanup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-4.3.2-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-3
- backport upstream patch for bookmark editor drag&drop crash (kde#160679)
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- fix Dolphin crash (regression)
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Sun Sep 27 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-4
- BR: webkitpart-devel
- fix Provides: kdebase4%{?_isa} (not kdelibs)
* Sun Sep 27 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- own %_kde4_appsdir/konqueror/{kpartplugins,icons,opensearch}
- %lang'ify HTML docs
- Provides: kdelibs4%{?_isa}
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-runtime-4.3.2-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Runtime
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Rex Dieter  4.3.2-4
- Conflicts: kdebase4 < 4.3.0 instead
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Rex Dieter  4.3.2-3
- Conflicts: kdebase < 6:4.3.0
- Requires: oxygen-icon-theme >= %{version}
* Tue Oct  6 2009 Rex Dieter  4.3.2-2
- BR: bzip2-devel xz-devel
- -libs: move Requires: kdepimlibs... here
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 4.3.1-4
- fix manpath patch (spotted by Kevin Kofler)
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 4.3.1-3
- if available, use the "manpath" command in the man kioslave to determine man
  page file locations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebase-workspace-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Workspace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct  4 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdebindings-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 KDE bindings to non-C++ languages
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Fri Sep 25 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-4
- rhel cleanup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeedu-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 Educational/Edutainment applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegames-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Games
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdegraphics-4.3.2-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Graphics Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-3
- okular does not handle escaped URL correctly (kde#207461)
* Thu Oct  8 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- rhel cleanup
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-4.3.2-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Luk?? Tinkl  - 4.3.2-4
- khtml kpart crasher nr. 2 (rev.1033984)
* Thu Oct  8 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-3
- khtml kpart crasher (kde #207173/209876)
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- fix a deadlock in KLocale
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Wed Sep 23 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-7
- move /etc/profile.d/kde4.(sh|csh) to kde-settings (F-12+)
* Mon Sep 21 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-6
- use abrt for RHEL
* Sat Sep 19 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-5
- groupdav connect to egroupware failed (kde#186763)
* Fri Sep 18 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.1-4
- ship kde4-doxygen.sh only in -devel (fix duplicate file)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdelibs-experimental-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 KDE libraries with experimental or unstable api/abi
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdemultimedia-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Multimedia applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdenetwork-4.3.2-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Network Applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct  9 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-3
- fix BR to be on kdelibs-experimental-devel, not kdelibs-experimental
* Wed Oct  7 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-2
- enable jingle
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Thu Sep 17 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-3
- %?_isa'ize -libs deps
- BR: webkitpart-devel
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 PIM (Personal Information Manager) applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-6
- rhel cleanup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepim-runtime-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 KDE PIM Runtime Environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdepimlibs-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeplasma-addons-4.3.2-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 Additional plasmoids for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-2
- microblog/twitter fix (kde#209891)
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdesdk-4.3.2-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 4.3.2-2
- Fix Kompare diff parsing regression (due to a typo in a bugfix)
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.1-2
- Requires: kross(python) (#523076)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdetoys-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Toys and Amusements
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kdeutils-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 K Desktop Environment - Utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 md5deep-3.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10627)
 A set of cross-platform tools to compute hashes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Paul P. Komkoff Jr  - 3.4-1
- new upstream version
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.1-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.1-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mingw32-proj-4.6.1-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10569)
 Cartographic projection software (PROJ.4)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

mingw32 port of the proj package.  Proj transforms cartographic data to or from
cartesian data with a wide range of selectable projection functions. Proj docs:
http://www.remotesensing.org/dl/new_docs/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527704 - Review Request: mingw32-proj - MinGW port of the proj cartographic projection library package
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527704
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20090918-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10546)
 Mobile broadband provider database
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update improves mobile broadband support for ZTE, Onda, Sierra, Ericsson,
Cmotech, and Option devices. In addition, PEAP-GTC support was added, along with
VPN, ethernet carrier detection, various 802.1x authentication fixes, and DHCP
behavior improvements.  Support for saving system-wide wifi and ethernet
connections as traditional 'ifcfg' in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts has also
been added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 monitor-edid-2.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10624)
 Tool for probing and parsing monitor EDID
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream Changelog    Version 2.4    - monitor-parse-edid:    o ignore the
Manufacturer Specified Range Timing descriptor if the first detailed timing
descriptor appears to violate it (this probably means that the descriptor is
actually something else or in a different format; this fixes Lenovo W500
detection, reported by Udo Rader)    Version 2.3    - monitor-get-edid-using-
vbe:    o update x86emu from xserver git (fixes issues at least with newish
NVIDIA cards)    o check if the port supports DDC before trying to read EDID
data (this should prevent problems when probing nonexistent ports on old cards)
- monitor-edid, monitor-get-edid:    o probe ports 0-2 by default instead of
just 0-1 (many NVIDIA cards seem to be using port 2 and the changes in monitor-
get-edid-using-vbe should make it safe for old problematic NVIDIA cards as well)
Version 2.2    - monitor-edid, monitor-get-edid:    o support getting EDID from
kernel DRM when kernel mode-setting is enabled (Anssi Hannula)  - monitor-probe-
using-X:    o use resolution from LVDS initial mode when X reports that it is
exact, making it work with nouveau driver (Anssi Hannula)    Version 2.1    -
monitor-parse-edid:    o compute and display the "dpi" of the preferred
modelines    o handle parsing of EDIDs found in "xrandr --prop" or Xorg.log  -
monitor-get-edid-using-vbe:    o fix checking the current vt    o instead of
checking vt >= 7 to know if X is running, check wether $DISPLAY is set
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Remi Collet  2.4-1
- new version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mrepo-0.8.6-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10571)
 A tool to set up a yum/apt mirror from various sources
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Change requirement from Apache to any web server.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 0.8.6-5
- Generalize webserver requirement.
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.8.6-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529421 - mrepo package requires httpd exclusively. alternate webservers should satisfy dependencies.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529421
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ocaml-camlimages-3.0.1-3.fc10.3 (FEDORA-2009-10568)
 OCaml image processing library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix handling of oversized TIFF images.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 3.0.1-3.fc10.3
- ocaml-camlimages: TIFF reader multiple integer overflows
  (CVE 2009-3296 / RHBZ#528732).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528732 - CVE-2009-3296 ocaml-camlimages: TIFF reader multiple integer overflows
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528732
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ocaml-mysql-1.0.4-3.fc10.1 (FEDORA-2009-10582)
 OCaml library for accessing MySQL databases
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Patch for CVE 2009-2942 Missing escape function (RHBZ#529321).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.0.4-3.fc10.1
- Patch for CVE 2009-2942 Missing escape function (RHBZ#529321).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529321 - CVE-2009-2942 ocaml-mysql: Missing escape function (DSA-1910-1)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529321
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ocaml-postgresql-1.12.3-1.fc10.2 (FEDORA-2009-10595)
 OCaml library for accessing PostreSQL databases
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- New upstream version 1.12.3.  - This contains a SECURITY fix for:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529325  CVE-2009-2943 ocaml-
postgresql: Missing escape function (DSA-1909-1)  HOWEVER you are not protected
until you change your code to  use the new connection#escape_string method.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.12.3-1.fc10.2
- Fix build process for new upstream tarball layout.
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.12.3-1
- New upstream version 1.12.3.
- This contains a SECURITY fix for:
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529325
  CVE-2009-2943 ocaml-postgresql: Missing escape function (DSA-1909-1)
  HOWEVER you are not protected until you change your code to
  use the new connection#escape_string method.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529325 - CVE-2009-2943 ocaml-postgresql: Missing escape function (DSA-1909-1)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529325
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openscada-0.6.4-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10630)
 Open SCADA system project
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.4-2
- Added of Obsoletes directive by Peter Lemenkov .
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.4-1
- The change version for release 0.6.4
- Moved Ui-VCAEngine module to the self package
- Removed QTStarter module from the main package
- Added the virtual plc, server, visStation packages
- Some cosmetics
- Fixed somes bugs Peter Lemenkov .
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.4-1
- Adding self module ICP_DAS
- Fixed Germany Language translations by Popkova Irina
- Delete openscada-0.6.3.3-openssl.patch from previouns version
- Adding the next version of the package.
* Tue Sep  1 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.3-13
- Adding Requires for webcfg, webcfgd, webvision, http and snmp
- Some cosmetics.
* Tue Aug 25 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 0.6.3.3-12
- rebuilt with new openssl
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Popkov Aleksey  - 0.6.3.3-11
- Fixed of macros find_lang for epel-5 by Peter Lemenkov .
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.6.3.3-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild.
* Tue Jul 14 2009 Popkov Aleksey  0.6.3.3-9
- Adding find_lang macros by Peter Lemenkov 
- Somes cosmetics.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 oxygen-icon-theme-4.3.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10482)
 Oxygen icon theme
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

KDE 4.3.2 is a bugfix release of KDE 4.3. Some notable changes:    * Many
crashers have been fixed in KDE's core libraries, bringing more stability to all
applications   * KWin's window compositing effects have been further stabilized
by fixing a number of bugs in effect plugins such as the famous coverswitch
window switcher  * The biggest number of bugs for this release has been fixed in
KMail, KDE's email client, making it more reliable and usable by correcting a
number of display issues  * Saving files over themselves works again in Okular,
KDE's document viewer    Release announcement:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.2.php  Changelog:
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_3_1to4_3_2.php
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct  5 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-1
- 4.3.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527464 - move examples to /usr/share/doc/
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527464
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pspp-0.6.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10619)
 A program for statistical analysis of sampled data
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ver. 0.6.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Peter Lemenkov  0.6.2-1
- Ver. 0.6.2
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.6.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pyserial-2.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10627)
 Python serial port access library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Paul P Komkoff Jr  - 2.4-1
- new upstream version
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.2-9
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.2-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams  - 2.2-7
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-sprox-0.6.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10597)
 A package for creation of web widgets directly from database schema
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of python-sprox for Fedora 10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-suds-0.3.7-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10687)
 A python SOAP client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Release version 0.3.7 which contains bug fixes and enhancements.    - Better
soap header support  - Added new transport HttpAuthenticated for active (not
passive) basic authentication.  - New options (prefixes, timeout, retxml)  -
WSDL processing enhancements.  - Expanded builtin XSD type support.  - Fixed
  - Better XML date/datetime conversion.  - Client.clone() method
added for lightweight copy of client object.  - XSD processing
fixes/enhancements.  - Better  by  support.  -
Performance enhancements.  - Fixed tickets: #65, #232, #233, #235, #241, #242,
#244, #247, #254, #254, #256, #257, #258
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 jortel  - 0.3.7-1
- Better soap header support
- Added new transport HttpAuthenticated for active (not passive) basic authentication.
- New options (prefixes, timeout, retxml)
- WSDL processing enhancements.
- Expanded builtin XSD type support.
- Fixed 
- Better XML date/datetime conversion.
- Client.clone() method added for lightweight copy of client object.
- XSD processing fixes/enhancements.
- Better  by  support.
- Performance enhancements. 
- Fixed tickets: #65, #232, #233, #235, #241, #242, #244, #247, #254, #254, #256, #257, #258
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.3.6-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qtcurve-gtk2-0.69.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10689)
 This is a set of widget styles for Gtk2 based apps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

QtCurve is a desktop theme for the GTK+ and Qt widget toolkits,  allowing users
to achieve a uniform look between these widget toolkits.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qtcurve-kde4-0.69.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10668)
 This is a set of widget styles for Qt4/KDE4 based apps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

QtCurve is a desktop theme for the GTK+ and Qt widget toolkits,  allowing users
to achieve a uniform look between these widget toolkits.  This is a set of
widget styles for Qt4/KDE4 based apps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 roundup-1.4.10-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10627)
 Simple and flexible issue-tracking system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Paul P. Komkoff Jr  - 1.4.10-1
- new upstream version
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.4.6-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Mar 31 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.4.6-5
- fix unowned directory (#473661)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sdparm-1.04-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10671)
 List or change SCSI/SATA disk parameters
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to new stable release 1.04
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 1.04-1
- 1.04
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 skrooge-0.5.2-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10711)
 Personal finances manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- (HTML) docs patch, use %%find_lang --with-kde  - own
%%{_kde4_appsdir}/skrooge*/ dirs  - %check: omit extraneous desktop-file-
validate's
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Rex Dieter  0.5.2-2
- (HTML) docs patch, use %find_lang --with-kde
- own %{_kde4_appsdir}/skrooge*/ dirs
- %check
unset DISPLAY
: omit extraneous desktop-file-validate's
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 thunar-vcs-plugin-0.1.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10632)
 SVN integration for the Thunar filemanager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The Thunar VCS Plugin adds Subversion actions to the context menu of Thunar.
This gives a SVN integration to Thunar.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529465 - Review Request: thunar-vcs-plugin - SVN integration for the Thunar filemanager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529465
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================================================================================
 tucan-0.3.9-0.1.alpha.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10640)
 Manager for downloads and uploads at hosting sites
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

new upstream release includes a patch for shutdown. (very ubuntu-like) I hate
sudo
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Simon Wesp  - 0.3.9-0.1.alpha
- New upstream release
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.3.8-0.2.alpha
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528427 - Won't update to 0.3.9 for stable fedora releases
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528427
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 uncrustify-0.54-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10691)
 Reformat Source
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

see http://uncrustify.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Neal Becker  - 0.54-1
- Update to 0.54
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.52-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 unuran-1.4.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10628)
 Universal Non-Uniform Random number generator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

update to 1.4.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Neal Becker  - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.1-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.1-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 vsftpd-2.0.7-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10605)
 Very Secure Ftp Daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

little back ported bug fix in init script
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Jiri Skala  - 2.0.7-3
- back ported fix #524208 - Error message when starting vsftpd service with multiple conf...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wxGTK-2.8.10-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10637)
 GTK2 port of the wxWidgets GUI library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

added a fix for excessive CPU usage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 2.8.10-3
- add fix for excessive CPU usage (#494425)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 yaz-3.0.49-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10583)
 Z39.50/SRW/SRU programs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Upstream 3.0.49 (with bugfixes and feature enhancements)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  1 2009 Guido Grazioli  - 3.0.49-1
- Upstream 3.0.49 (bugfixes and feature enhancements)
- Require pkgconfig for libyaz-devel (guidelines MUST)
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.0.46-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Jun 27 2009 Konstantin Ryabitsev  - 3.0.46-1
- Update to 3.0.46 (miscellaneous bugfixes)
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.0.41-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Dec 29 2008 Konstantin Ryabitsev  - 3.0.41-1
- Upstream 3.0.41
- Always use system libtool
- Remove TODO from docs
- Package bib1-attr.7 with libyaz
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================================================================================
 yum-3.2.24-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10650)
 RPM installer/updater
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Large number of bugfixes  - obsoletes having flags of < or <= will probably
work better, now  - a number of file searches will return more quickly as we
won't need to download the filelists.  - cost excludes and large numbers of
excludes are much faster  - correct incorrectly returning an error when using
'reinstall'  - translation updates  - documentation updates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 21 2009 Seth Vidal  - 3.2.24-2
- backport a number of bugfix patches from yum head
* Thu Sep  3 2009 Seth Vidal  - 3.2.24-1
- remove new ssl patches that require newer urlgrabber than we have
- bump to 3.2.24 otherwise
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #484537 - [PATCH] metalink caching is insufficiently robust.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484537
  [ 2 ] Bug #502401 - yum picks older arch pkg instead of newer noarch one
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502401
  [ 3 ] Bug #507220 - package-cleanup crashes with infinite recursion
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507220
  [ 4 ] Bug #484729 - rpm transaction callback api has changed
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484729
  [ 5 ] Bug #518720 - Yum does not check /var/cache/yum size
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518720
  [ 6 ] Bug #520810 - Missing Dependency: /usr/bin/[ is needed by package
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520810
  [ 7 ] Bug #506707 - yum DeprecationWarning: os.popen3
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506707
  [ 8 ] Bug #506764 - KeyError: 'getpwuid(): uid not found on system using NIS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506764
  [ 9 ] Bug #505996 - yum needs to make sure pkg to be installed is not already obsoleted by installed pkg
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505996
  [ 10 ] Bug #509669 - yum list uses unexplained @ flag
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509669
  [ 11 ] Bug #517286 - Yum crashes if download of a package is too quick
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517286
  [ 12 ] Bug #508108 - Wrong count of space after 'Entfernen:' on 'Transaktionszusammenfassung'
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508108
  [ 13 ] Bug #522259 - yum update is failing with nss and/or glibc update
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522259
  [ 14 ] Bug #520614 - Error when comparing timestamps
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520614
  [ 15 ] Bug #522112 - yum asks for confirmation of empty transaction
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522112
  [ 16 ] Bug #521748 - OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument: '/var/run/yum.pid'
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521748
  [ 17 ] Bug #524454 - yum repolist accesses all repos
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524454
  [ 18 ] Bug #519172 - File conflicts between PolicyKit-kde-4.2.90-1 and kdebase-workspace-4.3.0-9
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519172
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From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct 21 00:56:54 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:56:54 +0000
Subject: Intel Mac Mini Audio does not work
In-Reply-To: <4ADE5ADE.5010000@hi.is>
References: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com> <4ADE5ADE.5010000@hi.is>
Message-ID: <4ADE5C56.3070803@hi.is>

On 10/21/2009 12:50 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> On 10/21/2009 12:06 AM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
>> I've recently inherited an older Intel Mac Mini (Intel guts, not
>> NVIDIA). I installed F11 i386 on it and then upgraded to the F12 beta
>> (2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE), but I can't seem to get audio to work 
>> properly.
>>
>> I created /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and put in it:
>>
>> options snd-hda-intel model=macmini
>>
> Hum
>
> old mac mini probably the ones that the built in speaker never worked 
> on..
>
> Use the rear jack you should get a get a sound if not try model=imac24 
> or model=mbp3 instead .....
>
ignore the extra "get a" bit tired ;)

Please let us know if this works or not if I can recall correctly there 
was also a patch floating around for that piece of crap..

I can try digging it up if it does not..

JBG



From JCasale at activenetwerx.com  Wed Oct 21 01:22:29 2009
From: JCasale at activenetwerx.com (Joseph L. Casale)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:22:29 +0000
Subject: F12 Beta Netinstall
Message-ID: 

When did the netinstall start choosing my packages for me?
I don't recall this ever being the norm? At least it wasn't
for the F11 final afaik.

jlc



From jkeating at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 02:05:27 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:05:27 -0700
Subject: F12 Beta Netinstall
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1256090727.4242.40.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 01:22 +0000, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> When did the netinstall start choosing my packages for me?
> I don't recall this ever being the norm? At least it wasn't
> for the F11 final afaik. 

If you're doing text mode, you no longer get to choose packages in text
mode.  If you can't do graphics locally, try vnc based installs.

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From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed Oct 21 02:11:57 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:11:57 -0400
Subject: checksum/disk theories?
In-Reply-To: <4ADE56ED.3060203@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>
	<4ADE56ED.3060203@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <20091020221157.2d91186e@zooty>

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:33:49 +0800
John Summerfield wrote:

> btw FAT32 does support files larger than 1 Gb

Yea, but not bigger than 2 gig, at least it has always
refused in the past, so I just split them at 1 because that
is well within any limit that might crop up.

> echo \
> cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoa* \> ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso

Yea, I tried doing an echo and they sure looked like the right
order. My best guess at the moment is some sort of intermittent
bit dropping in the usb stick, but it takes a long time to
copy that much data, so I'm not really up for doing lots of
different tests, at least I finally got the files on my system.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Wed Oct 21 02:15:19 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:15:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: checksums for beta?
Message-ID: 


  should there not be immediately obvious checksums on the images
available here?

http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-prerelease

or am i just missing them?

rday
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 02:17:13 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:17:13 -0700
Subject: Intel Mac Mini Audio does not work
In-Reply-To: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>
References: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1256091433.2314.327.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 20:06 -0400, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> I've recently inherited an older Intel Mac Mini (Intel guts, not
> NVIDIA). I installed F11 i386 on it and then upgraded to the F12 beta
> (2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE), but I can't seem to get audio to work properly.
> 
> I created /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and put in it:
> 
> options snd-hda-intel model=macmini
> 
> That didn't make anything work, but it seems correct.
> 
> I've attached the info from an alsa-info.sh run.
> 
> When I run aplay, it seems to playback (it runs for the duration it
> should), but no audio is coming out of either of the analog ports on the
> back (I don't have any digital audio equipment to test the digital port).
> 
> Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. :)

Try model=auto as well as the options suggested by Johann and Stephen.
If no model= options seem to do the trick, try poking around with the
mixer: alsamixer -c0 . Also, run gnome-volume-control , go to the
Hardware tab, and tell us what Profile is selected for the device.

Thanks!

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From cmadams at hiwaay.net  Wed Oct 21 02:45:17 2009
From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:45:17 -0500
Subject: checksum/disk theories?
In-Reply-To: <4ADE56ED.3060203@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>
	<4ADE56ED.3060203@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <20091021024517.GA823935@hiwaay.net>

Once upon a time, John Summerfield  said:
> Tom Horsley wrote:
> >Has bash started randomly ordering wildcard expansion or something?
> 
> I don't think bash has ever ordered the files. Instead, they're listed 
> in the order matched.

Nope, per the standard, shell glob results "sorted according to the
collating sequence in effect in the current locale" (from IEEE Std
1003.1-2008).

The only thing I can think of is a random bit-flip on your USB stick.
The shell and "cat" are large-file safe, so even if you were running
this on a 32 bit host, you should have no problems.

-- 
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Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



From maxamillion at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 03:38:51 2009
From: maxamillion at gmail.com (Adam Miller)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:38:51 -0500
Subject: F12 Beta Netinstall
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1256090727.4242.40.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
Message-ID: 

Does the text based net install default to the set of packages available in
the default deskop spin or $other? And in the case of $other, is there a
listing of the default package set somewhere?

-Adam (From Android)

On Oct 20, 2009 9:06 PM, "Jesse Keating"  wrote:

On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 01:22 +0000, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > When did the
netinstall start choosing ...
If you're doing text mode, you no longer get to choose packages in text
mode.  If you can't do graphics locally, try vnc based installs.

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From jkeating at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 03:47:02 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:47:02 -0700
Subject: F12 Beta Netinstall
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1256090727.4242.40.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
	
Message-ID: <1256096822.4242.46.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 22:38 -0500, Adam Miller wrote:
> Does the text based net install default to the set of packages available in
> the default deskop spin or $other? And in the case of $other, is there a
> listing of the default package set somewhere?
> 
> -Adam (From Android) 

It defaults to the packages in the @core group, which is what you get if
you deselect every package in the GUI.

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From maxamillion at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 03:49:38 2009
From: maxamillion at gmail.com (Adam Miller)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:49:38 -0500
Subject: F12 Beta Netinstall
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1256090727.4242.40.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
	
	<1256096822.4242.46.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
Message-ID: 

Oh, awesome. Thanks for the info. Easier way to get a base install, I like
it :)

-Adam (From Android)

On Oct 20, 2009 10:47 PM, "Jesse Keating"  wrote:

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 22:38 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: > Does the text based
net install default to t...
It defaults to the packages in the @core group, which is what you get if
you deselect every package in the GUI.

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From P.Glassenbury at cosc.canterbury.ac.nz  Wed Oct 21 03:58:59 2009
From: P.Glassenbury at cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Peter Glassenbury (CSSE))
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:58:59 +1300
Subject: Gdm  login bug - is anyone else having this
Message-ID: <4ADE8703.1080302@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>

Gdm on my test machine F12 Alpha x86_64 doesn't give me a login user entry field
I thought i might have been something I did wrong
  but Vincent at redhat is also reporting the same
thing on F12Beta as a comment here(Don't think it is linked to that bug though)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502072

Is anyone else having or has seen the issue in F12beta or alpha
and fixed it?

Vincents comments
   Ummm...  I'm not sure if this is due to the use of bind_policy soft, but at gdm
   I have no user entry field.  I see Suspend, Restart, Shut Down, and Log In, and
   when clicking on Log In it just recycles the gdm screen.  I can, however, login
   at the console just fine.
   ..... nscd is installed and running, and even
   after a reboot (hoping perhaps the nscd cache would persist to present this
   information), still no way to login via gdm.

My comment
   My root was allowed to login at gdm but can't. when you type
over the login part of the screen, a box shows up with your typing
(maybe a search box for users??) but it doesn't use these entries
for logging in.
Same results when /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list true
and when false.
I have a custom.conf in gdm that does this
[security]
DisallowTCP=false
[xdmcp]
HonorIndirect=false


This is not in Bugzilla yet as I wasn't sure it was not
something I misconfigured
but with someone else having the same issue....

Pete
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From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Wed Oct 21 04:19:13 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:19:13 +0800
Subject: checksum/disk theories?
In-Reply-To: <20091020221157.2d91186e@zooty>
References: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>	<4ADE56ED.3060203@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<20091020221157.2d91186e@zooty>
Message-ID: <4ADE8BC1.4010200@herakles.homelinux.org>

Tom Horsley wrote:

> Yea, I tried doing an echo and they sure looked like the right
> order. My best guess at the moment is some sort of intermittent
> bit dropping in the usb stick, but it takes a long time to

Are USB sticks and such inherently that slow? I've got 20 Mbytes/sec and 
better off laptop drives in enclosures, but haven't used the sticks much 
as they're too small or too expensive. However, I bought a card reader 
and was dismayed to find ot takes 70 minutes and more to copy a full 
4Gbyte CF disk (Sandisk Ultra II) supposedly capable of 15 Mbytes/sec.

> copy that much data, so I'm not really up for doing lots of
> different tests, at least I finally got the files on my system.
> 


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John

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From JCasale at activenetwerx.com  Wed Oct 21 04:26:04 2009
From: JCasale at activenetwerx.com (Joseph L. Casale)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:26:04 +0000
Subject: F12 Beta Netinstall
In-Reply-To: <1256090727.4242.40.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: 
	<1256090727.4242.40.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: 

>If you're doing text mode, you no longer get to choose packages in text mode.  If you can't do graphics locally, try vnc based >installs.

So the netinstall *only* does text installs I gather? I only used it as
it was a quicker download to get an install started and walk away.

Thanks!
jlc



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 04:25:39 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:55:39 -0430
Subject: Fedora 12 Beta now available!
In-Reply-To: <1256062699.15375.14.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1256046992.4242.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1256062699.15375.14.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <1256099139.4205.0.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 13:48 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 06:56 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > * Hybrid live images - The Live images provided in this release can be
> > directly imaged onto a USB stick using dd (or any equivalent tool) to
> > create bootable Live USB keys.
> 
> I tried this using:
> 
>         dd if=F12-Beta-i686-Live-KDE.iso of=/dev/sdc
> 
> but the resulting stick doesn't boot.

Oops. Stupid BIOS wasn't booting from the USB drive. It boots now.

poc



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Wed Oct 21 04:28:41 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:28:41 +0800
Subject: checksum/disk theories?
In-Reply-To: <20091020221157.2d91186e@zooty>
References: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>	<4ADE56ED.3060203@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<20091020221157.2d91186e@zooty>
Message-ID: <4ADE8DF9.8010701@herakles.homelinux.org>

Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:33:49 +0800
> John Summerfield wrote:
> 
>> btw FAT32 does support files larger than 1 Gb
> 
> Yea, but not bigger than 2 gig, at least it has always
> refused in the past, so I just split them at 1 because that
> is well within any limit that might crop up.

According to MS:

You cannot create a file larger than (2^32)-1 bytes (this is one byte 
less than 4 GB) on a FAT32 partition.

For other limitations, see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463/EN-US/


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From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 04:29:42 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:29:42 -0700
Subject: Oops
In-Reply-To: <200910201939.05147.gene@czarc.net>
References: <200910201939.05147.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <1256099382.2314.353.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 19:39 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:

> OK, boot it up and start configuring it, updating (I did a DVD-only install), 
> etc.  Well, one of the things this system does is run qemu-kvm so I had 
> selected Virtualization during the install.  My guest disk images are all on a 
> separate logical volume which I mount on /.var/lib/libvirt/images but the 
> system definition/configuration files are separate.  When I went to copy them 
> from the old system I found the was no place to copy them to ... /etc/libvirt/ 
> was missing.  Further checking showed that the libvirt rpm was not installed 
> ... this is easy enought to fix but it should not have happened ... it should 
> have been installed when I selected virtualization.
> 
> So, what package do I BZ against? [that is, if it has not been already BZed]

Assign it to component 'comps', which is the somewhat cryptic name for
the component that defines which packages go in which groups.

If you're curious, you can see the actual comps files here:

http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/comps/

-- 
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http://www.happyassassin.net



From jkeating at j2solutions.net  Wed Oct 21 04:54:35 2009
From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:54:35 -0700
Subject: F12 Beta Netinstall
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<1256090727.4242.40.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
Message-ID: <423448B7-C1D1-4269-AD9D-279D867AA286@j2solutions.net>



On Oct 20, 2009, at 21:26, "Joseph L. Casale"  
 wrote:

>> If you're doing text mode, you no longer get to choose packages in  
>> text mode.  If you can't do graphics locally, try vnc based  
>> >installs.
>
> So the netinstall *only* does text installs I gather? I only used it  
> as
> it was a quicker download to get an install started and walk away.
>
>

No. It can be used fo a full GUI install.

--
Jes



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 05:01:08 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:01:08 -0700
Subject: FUDcon fun?
Message-ID: <1256101268.2314.385.camel@adam.local.net>

Hi, folks. In the Bugzappers meeting this morning, we were discussing
the possibilities for FUDCon Toronto, which for those who don't know is
taking place in Toronto (duh) in December. December 5-7, to be precise.
More details on the event are in the Wiki:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009

now, if enough of us are going to be there we can plan some exciting
QA / BugZappers-related events. For now we know that pretty much the
whole Red Hat Fedora QA group is going to be there, and some Bugzappers
volunteers too. The more who can come along, the merrier. If you can
come, you can fill your name in on the list on the Wiki page, and it'd
be good to let the list know too.

Some funding is available for those who have trouble covering travel /
hotel costs, but it's fairly limited. You can indicate on the attendance
table if you need funding - fill in your name but mark the 'funding'
column to show that you need money. Get it done before Thursday as
that's the date of the next meeting to allocate funds. Explaining why
you're awesome and deserve money in the 'comments' column may help :)
there are various money-saving tips on travel and lodging on the Wiki
page - there's a bus running from Boston, and room sharing arrangements
are being made in the Wiki table.

Hope we can get a decent turnout there! it's always good to meet people
face-to-face.

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From markmc at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 07:20:49 2009
From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:20:49 +0100
Subject: Oops
In-Reply-To: <200910201939.05147.gene@czarc.net>
References: <200910201939.05147.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <1256109649.2861.4.camel@blaa>

Hi Gene,

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 19:39 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
> F12 beta was available so I downloaded the DVD iso ... that was a waste of 
> bandwidth since it was identical to F12-Beta RC2.
> 
> Anyway, I had already installed a couple of copies of RC2 into qemu-kvm guests 
> so it was time to install this on bare-metal.
> 
> My test system already had F12-rawhide installed with all current updates but, 
> afterall, this is a test of the install ... so I did another install ... my 
> test system supports four, separate bootable systems (combinations of /boot 
> partitions and LVM logical volumes for root).
> 
> OK, boot it up and start configuring it, updating (I did a DVD-only install), 
> etc.  Well, one of the things this system does is run qemu-kvm so I had 
> selected Virtualization during the install.  My guest disk images are all on a 
> separate logical volume which I mount on /.var/lib/libvirt/images but the 
> system definition/configuration files are separate.  When I went to copy them 
> from the old system I found the was no place to copy them to ... /etc/libvirt/ 
> was missing.  Further checking showed that the libvirt rpm was not installed 
> ... this is easy enought to fix but it should not have happened ... it should 
> have been installed when I selected virtualization.

Oops, indeed. I've filed this here:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/530015

Thanks for finding this, it's a very serious issue that could have crept
by unnoticed.

Cheers,
Mark.



From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl  Wed Oct 21 08:40:25 2009
From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:40:25 +0200
Subject: Gdm  login bug - is anyone else having this
In-Reply-To: <4ADE8703.1080302@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
References: <4ADE8703.1080302@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <20091021084025.GC2305@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 04:58:59PM +1300, Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
> Gdm on my test machine F12 Alpha x86_64 doesn't give me a login user entry field
> I thought i might have been something I did wrong
>  but Vincent at redhat is also reporting the same
> thing on F12Beta as a comment here(Don't think it is linked to that bug though)
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502072
> 
> Is anyone else having or has seen the issue in F12beta or alpha
> and fixed it?
[...]

It's already in bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527920
Same symptoms. As a workaround I'm using kdm.

Regards,

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From kparal at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 10:56:26 2009
From: kparal at redhat.com (Kamil Paral)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:56:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: new tool: rpmguard - print important differences between RPMs
In-Reply-To: <54723383.938161256122543756.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <238111468.938181256122586110.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

Hi,

I have created a simple tool called rpmguard for checking differences 
between RPM packages. It is very similar to rpmdiff, but it prints only
important changes, not all. Therefore it can be used every time a new 
package is built to easily see if something hasn?t went completely wrong.

Read more on:
http://kparal.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/rpmguard-print-important-differences-between-rpms/

Any comments welcome!

Kamil



From hasan.ibraheem at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 11:49:47 2009
From: hasan.ibraheem at gmail.com (Hassan Ibraheem)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:49:47 +0200
Subject: wireless always switched on on boot
Message-ID: <3109f2250910210449w10224fc4hc7973f6956ac2510@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
Fedora (both 11 and rawhide) doesn't remember my wireless connection
state, and *always* turns it on at boot, even if it was turned off
when I booted/rebooted.
I'm using KDE, I don't if it's relevant though.

Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg
Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)

Is this a bug? or something configurable?

-- 
Hassan Ibraheem



From schaiba at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 12:00:38 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:00:38 +0300
Subject: wireless always switched on on boot
In-Reply-To: <3109f2250910210449w10224fc4hc7973f6956ac2510@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3109f2250910210449w10224fc4hc7973f6956ac2510@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ADEF7E6.4080900@gmail.com>

On 10/21/2009 02:49 PM, Hassan Ibraheem wrote:
> Hi,
> Fedora (both 11 and rawhide) doesn't remember my wireless connection
> state, and *always* turns it on at boot, even if it was turned off
> when I booted/rebooted.
> I'm using KDE, I don't if it's relevant though.
>
> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg
> Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
>
> Is this a bug? or something configurable?
>
>    
Are you using NetworkManager or the old-school way ?



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 21 12:00:22 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:00:22 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091021 changes
Message-ID: <20091021120022.GA4144@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Wed Oct 21 06:15:23 UTC 2009










Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



New package adf-tribun-fonts
        A newsprint-like serif typeface
New package gfs-ignacio-fonts
        A majuscule Greek font
New package qtcurve-gtk2
        This is a set of widget styles for Gtk2 based apps
New package qtcurve-kde4
        This is a set of widget styles for Qt4/KDE4 based apps
New package vhostmd
        Virtualization host metrics daemon
Removed package kerneloops
Updated Packages:

OpenEXR_CTL-1.0.1-9.fc12
------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.0.1-9
- Rebuild for F-12

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.0.1-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


OpenEXR_Viewers-1.0.1-7.fc12
----------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.0.1-7
- Rebuild for F-12

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.0.1-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


PerceptualDiff-1.1.1-1.fc12
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.1.1-1
- Update to 1.1.1

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.0.2-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


Pixie-2.2.6-3.fc12
------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 2.2.6-3
- Rebuild for F-12

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.2.6-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


boo-0.9.2.3383-2.fc12
---------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Paul Lange  - 0.9.2.3383-2
- Move Boo.NAnt.Tasks.dll to boo-devel


brasero-2.28.2-1.fc12
---------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.2-1
- Update to 2.28.2


colossus-0.9.3-1.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Bruno Wolff III  - 0.9.3-1
- Rebase to 0.9.3
- Adjust script for grabbing source to be able to grab from branches
- Fixed 2877055: Some GUI preferences don't load on startup
- Fixed: 2864777 Illegal rangestrike over walls
- Do not choose Experimental AI as "A Random AI" because it occasionally crashes
- Fixed: 2859914 Balrog placement ignores score (aka: Balrog every 300 again, not 50)
- Fixed: 2864790 Aborting load game with remote player - No GetPlayers dialog
- Fixed: 2838276 "my Strike Skill" is wrong for nonnatives to bramble (actually, just improved the dialog to make it's meaning clearer)
- Fixed: 2855208 Balrog exception in V0.9.2 (ConcurrentModificationException)
- See: http://colossus.sourceforge.net/docs/RecentChangesDetails.html


control-center-2.28.1-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1, just translation updates


dmraid-1.0.0.rc16-4.fc12
------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Heinz Mauelshagen  - 1.0.0.rc16-4
- bz526157: fix manual pages for dmraid.static and dm_dso_reg_tool
- bz505562: ddf1 metadata format handler LSI persistent name fix
- bz524168: fix pdc metadata format handler to report the correct number
  of devices in a RAID10 subset
- bz528097: move libraries to /lib* in order to avoid catch22
  with unmountable u/usr


evince-2.28.1-1.fc12
--------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Marek Kasik  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1
- Add evince-pdf-print-revert.patch (reverts upstream's change
- of print which revealed the bug #517310)


filezilla-3.2.8.1-1.fc12
------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 3.2.8.1-1
- Update to 3.2.8.1

* Wed Oct 07 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 3.2.8-1
- Update to 3.2.8

* Sat Oct 03 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 3.2.8-0.1-rc1
- Update to 3.2.8-rc1


findutils-4.4.2-4.fc12
----------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Kamil Dudka  - 1:4.4.2-4
- make it possible to recognize an autofs filesystem by find
- add a new find's option -xautofs to not descend directories on autofs
  filesystems


gdl-0.9-0.7.rc3.fc12
--------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 - Orion Poplawski  - 0.9-0.7.rc3
- Update to 0.9rc3
- Drop gcc43, ppc64, friend patches fixed upstream
- Add source for makecvstarball
- Rebase antlr patch, add automake source version
- Add conditionals for EPEL builds
- Add %check section


gnome-bluetooth-2.28.3-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.2-1
- Update to 2.28.2

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.3-1
- Update to 2.28.3


gnome-keyring-2.28.1-2.fc12
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Tomas Bzatek  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Ray Strode  2.28.1-2
- Don't start keyring daemon if pam password is empty
  Patch from Dan Walsh. (bug 529709)

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Ray Strode  - 2.28.0-4
- Die on ctrl-alt-backspace and other abrupt exits


gnome-panel-2.28.0-11.fc12
--------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-10
- Reduce the inter-applet padding

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-11
- Remove a leftover debugging statement

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-9
- Actually set non-zero padding

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Ray Strode  2.28.0-9
- Add explicit libs requires (bug 525600)

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-8
- Add padding around status icons


gnome-settings-daemon-2.28.1-1.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


gnome-terminal-2.28.1-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1, translation updates


gnome-themes-2.28.1-2.fc12
--------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-2
- Add scalable versions of the xdg folder icons to Mist

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-2
- Add xdg folder icons to Mist


gnumeric-1.8.4-5.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Robert Scheck  1:1.8.4-5
- Applied 4 patches from the 1.8 stable branch (#500890, #505001)

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Huzaifa Sidhpurwala  1:1.8.4-4
- Resolve rhbz #500890


gtk2-2.18.3-4.fc12
------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.3-4
- Make tooltips look nicer

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.3-3
- Fix a size allocation problem uncovered by the previous patch

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.3-1
- Update to 2.18.3

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.3-2
- Support padding around status icons


gtk2-engines-2.18.4-2.fc12
--------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.4-2
- New tooltip appearance


gvfs-1.4.1-1.fc12
-----------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Tomas Bzatek  - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Tomas Bzatek  - 1.4.0-7
- HTTP: Support g_file_input_stream_query_info()
- HTTP: Use libsoup header parsing function
- Set correct MIME type for MTP music players


hal-0.5.13-9.fc12
-----------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Peter Hutterer  0.5.13-9
- hal-xen-unignore-axes.patch: force evdev to allow rel+abs axes on the Xen
  Virtual Pointer device (#523914)

* Tue Aug 11 2009 Ville Skytt?  - 0.5.13-8
- Use bzipped upstream tarball.


irda-utils-0.9.18-10.fc12
-------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 0.9.18-10
- Add patch to fix installing of initscript into buildroot

* Mon Aug 10 2009 Ville Skytt?  - 0.9.18-9
- Convert specfile to UTF-8.

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.9.18-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


isdn4k-utils-3.2-66.fc12
------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Than Ngo  - 3.2-66
- add missing man pages
- add upstream fixes


itcl-3.4-5.fc12
---------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.4-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


libcanberra-0.22-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Lennart Poettering  0.22-1
- New version 0.22


libcapseo-0.3.0-0.3.20081031git431a293.fc12
-------------------------------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.3.0-0.3.20081031git431a293
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


libiodbc-3.52.7-1.fc12
----------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Rex Dieter  3.52.7-1
- libiodbc-3.52.7


libsoup-2.28.1-1.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


pari-2.3.4-3.fc12
-----------------
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.3.4-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


perl-XML-Twig-3.33-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 3.33-1
- new development release which should fix various bug reports e.g. 529220


polkit-0.95-0.git20090913.3.fc12
--------------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 0.95-0.git20090913.3
- Fix a typo in pklocalauthority(8)


python-cheetah-2.2.2-2.fc12
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Mike Bonnet  - 2.2.2-2
- backport significant improvements to utf-8/unicode handling from upstream


python-kaa-imlib2-0.2.3-8.fc12
------------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.2.3-8
- Rebuild for F-12
- Add missing BR

* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.2.3-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild

* Wed Jul 01 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.2.3-5
- Clean BR
- remove unused import md5
- Move to %global


quota-3.17-8.fc12
-----------------
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Ondrej Vasik  1:3.17-8
- add buildrequires for quota_nld, enable-netlink to build
  quota_nld (#526047)


rhythmbox-0.12.5-7.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.12.5-7
- Use bicubic volumes in the UI
- Avoid using HEAD to get podcast mime-types


skrooge-0.5.2-2.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Rex Dieter  0.5.2-2
- (HTML) docs patch, use %find_lang --with-kde
- own %{_kde4_appsdir}/skrooge*/ dirs
- %check
unset DISPLAY
: omit extraneous desktop-file-validate's

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Thomas Janssen  0.5.2-1
- Changed to final 0.5.2 version
- Bugfixes, including a nasty bug where one thinks the data is gone
- added HTML documentation
- added localizations


slim-1.3.1-8.fc12
-----------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Lorenzo Villani  - 1.3.1-8
- Fix BZ #518068


sssd-0.6.1-2.fc12
-----------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.6.1-2
- Fix missing file permissions for sssd-clients

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.6.1-1
- Add SSSDConfig API
- Update polish translation for 0.6.0
- Fix long timeout on ldap operation
- Make dp requests more robust


system-config-date-1.9.53-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 1.9.53-1
- make translating time zones more robust (#525921)


translate-toolkit-1.4.1-2.fc12
------------------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Dwayne Bailey  - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1
   - Better support for printf (including numbered) variables (bug 1118)
   - Fixes for the upcoming Pootle, including combined searches (bug 1036)
   - subtle bug in tmserver handling of the percent sign (%) (bug 1101)
   - obsolete messages seen as translatable (bug 1114)
- Drop patch bug#1114 - obsolete messages should not be translatable

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Dwayne Bailey  - 1.4.1-2
- Retag

* Mon Aug 24 2009 Dwayne Bailey  - 1.4.0-2
- Upstream bug #1114 - obsolete messages should not be translatable


xfconf-4.6.1-4.fc12
-------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 4.6.1-4
- Add BR perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) and perl(Glib::MakeHelper)

* Mon Jul 27 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 4.6.1-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.3.0-1.fc12
-------------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Peter Hutterer  2.3.0-1
- evdev 2.3.0

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Peter Hutterer  2.2.99.2-1
- evdev 2.2.99.2


Summary:
Added Packages: 5
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 45



From hasan.ibraheem at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 12:07:59 2009
From: hasan.ibraheem at gmail.com (Hassan Ibraheem)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:07:59 +0200
Subject: wireless always switched on on boot
In-Reply-To: <4ADEF7E6.4080900@gmail.com>
References: <3109f2250910210449w10224fc4hc7973f6956ac2510@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEF7E6.4080900@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3109f2250910210507j346a2ec1w3eb595d62672104c@mail.gmail.com>

2009/10/21 Aioanei Rares :
> On 10/21/2009 02:49 PM, Hassan Ibraheem wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Fedora (both 11 and rawhide) doesn't remember my wireless connection
>> state, and *always* turns it on at boot, even if it was turned off
>> when I booted/rebooted.
>> I'm using KDE, I don't if it's relevant though.
>>
>> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg
>> Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
>>
>> Is this a bug? or something configurable?
>>
>>
>
> Are you using NetworkManager or the old-school way ?
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
I'm using NetworkManager.

-- 
Hassan Ibraheem



From schaiba at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 12:11:09 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:11:09 +0300
Subject: wireless always switched on on boot
In-Reply-To: <3109f2250910210507j346a2ec1w3eb595d62672104c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3109f2250910210449w10224fc4hc7973f6956ac2510@mail.gmail.com>	<4ADEF7E6.4080900@gmail.com>
	<3109f2250910210507j346a2ec1w3eb595d62672104c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ADEFA5D.3000802@gmail.com>

On 10/21/2009 03:07 PM, Hassan Ibraheem wrote:
> 2009/10/21 Aioanei Rares:
>    
>> On 10/21/2009 02:49 PM, Hassan Ibraheem wrote:
>>      
>>> Hi,
>>> Fedora (both 11 and rawhide) doesn't remember my wireless connection
>>> state, and *always* turns it on at boot, even if it was turned off
>>> when I booted/rebooted.
>>> I'm using KDE, I don't if it's relevant though.
>>>
>>> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg
>>> Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
>>>
>>> Is this a bug? or something configurable?
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Are you using NetworkManager or the old-school way ?
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>>      
> I'm using NetworkManager.
>
>    
Well then , it can be easily configured. Right click on NM's icon in the 
tray and start from there.



From the.masch at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 12:31:01 2009
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:31:01 -0300
Subject: Fedora 12 Beta now available!
In-Reply-To: <1256099139.4205.0.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1256046992.4242.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<1256062699.15375.14.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<1256099139.4205.0.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <93d66b780910210531u14e89230s9b431ab2a82263d3@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, I installed the F12 Beta but I have an error that in a random time I
lost X, no screen, no mouse and no keyword, but the OS is working.Does
anybody know at least a workaround?

Thanks.
salu2...
masch....

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 13:48 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 06:56 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > > * Hybrid live images - The Live images provided in this release can be
> > > directly imaged onto a USB stick using dd (or any equivalent tool) to
> > > create bootable Live USB keys.
> >
> > I tried this using:
> >
> >         dd if=F12-Beta-i686-Live-KDE.iso of=/dev/sdc
> >
> > but the resulting stick doesn't boot.
>
> Oops. Stupid BIOS wasn't booting from the USB drive. It boots now.
>
> poc
>
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From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 12:51:59 2009
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike Cloaked)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:51:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: wireless always switched on on boot
In-Reply-To: <4ADEFA5D.3000802@gmail.com>
References: <3109f2250910210449w10224fc4hc7973f6956ac2510@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEF7E6.4080900@gmail.com>
	<3109f2250910210507j346a2ec1w3eb595d62672104c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEFA5D.3000802@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <25991901.post@talk.nabble.com>




Aioanei Rares-4 wrote:
> 
> 
>>>> Fedora (both 11 and rawhide) doesn't remember my wireless connection
>>>> state, and *always* turns it on at boot, even if it was turned off
>>>> when I booted/rebooted.
>   
> Well then , it can be easily configured. Right click on NM's icon in the 
> tray and start from there.
> 
> 

I thought the OP's question referred to the opposite - i.e. that he wanted
it off and selected it off but that it was on after booting back up?

Either way as you say you can choose whether the connection is available
system wide or not, and also whether or not it is on or off by default if
you go into the "Edit connections" item in NetworkManager and then select
the wireless item you want to change.
-- 
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/wireless-always-switched-on-on-boot-tp25991003p25991901.html
Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



From mschwendt at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 13:25:49 2009
From: mschwendt at gmail.com (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:25:49 -0000
Subject: Broken dependencies with Fedora 11 updates-testing - 2009-10-21
Message-ID: <20091021132549.7957.62102@faldor.intranet>

======================================================================
The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
======================================================================

Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name):

    asterisk
    autotrust
    ibus-table
    libsvm
    mathgl
    oorexx
    openmpi
    openscada
    openvrml
    R-RScaLAPACK




======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-i386:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.i586  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.i586  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc64:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc64  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-x86_64:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.x86_64  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexx.so.3
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexxapi.so.3
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-i386:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    ibus-table-additional-1.2.0.20091014-1.fc11.noarch  requires  ibus-table = 0:1.2.0.20090902-1.fc11
    mathgl-1.9-6.fc11.i586  requires  octave(api) = 0:api-v32
    openvrml-devel-0.18.2-2.fc11.i586  requires  openvrml = 0:0.18.2-2.fc11
    openvrml-gl-0.18.2-2.fc11.i586  requires  openvrml = 0:0.18.2-2.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    ibus-table-additional-1.2.0.20091014-1.fc11.noarch  requires  ibus-table = 0:1.2.0.20090902-1.fc11
    mathgl-1.9-6.fc11.ppc  requires  octave(api) = 0:api-v32
    mathgl-1.9-6.fc11.ppc64  requires  octave(api) = 0:api-v32


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc64:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    ibus-table-additional-1.2.0.20091014-1.fc11.noarch  requires  ibus-table = 0:1.2.0.20090902-1.fc11
    mathgl-1.9-6.fc11.ppc64  requires  octave(api) = 0:api-v32
    openvrml-devel-0.18.2-2.fc11.ppc64  requires  openvrml = 0:0.18.2-2.fc11
    openvrml-gl-0.18.2-2.fc11.ppc64  requires  openvrml = 0:0.18.2-2.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-x86_64:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    ibus-table-additional-1.2.0.20091014-1.fc11.noarch  requires  ibus-table = 0:1.2.0.20090902-1.fc11
    mathgl-1.9-6.fc11.i586  requires  octave(api) = 0:api-v32
    mathgl-1.9-6.fc11.x86_64  requires  octave(api) = 0:api-v32


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-i386:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.i586  requires  libunbound.so.0
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-2.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-IcpDas
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-IcpDas
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DAQ-DiamondBoards
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-DB-FireBird
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc11.i586  requires  Special-FLibMath
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-2.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-2.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-2.fc11.i586  requires  openscada-Special-FLibMath
    openvrml-xembed-0.18.3-6.fc11.i586  requires  openvrml-gl(x86-32) = 0:0.18.3-6.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libunbound.so.0
    openvrml-xembed-0.18.3-6.fc11.ppc  requires  openvrml-gl(ppc-32) = 0:0.18.3-6.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc64:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)
    openvrml-xembed-0.18.3-6.fc11.ppc64  requires  openvrml-gl(ppc-64) = 0:0.18.3-6.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-x86_64:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-2.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-IcpDas
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-IcpDas
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-DiamondBoards
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-DB-FireBird
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc11.x86_64  requires  Special-FLibMath
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-2.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-2.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-2.fc11.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibMath
    openvrml-xembed-0.18.3-6.fc11.x86_64  requires  openvrml-gl(x86-64) = 0:0.18.3-6.fc11



From mschwendt at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 13:26:45 2009
From: mschwendt at gmail.com (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:26:45 -0000
Subject: Broken dependencies with Fedora 10 updates-testing - 2009-10-21
Message-ID: <20091021132645.7980.31392@faldor.intranet>

======================================================================
The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
======================================================================

Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name):

    autotrust
    db4o
    fedora-gnat-project-common
    gadget
    gedit-vala
    libsvm
    llvm
    oorexx
    openscada
    php
    python-tgext-admin
    thunar-vcs-plugin




======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-10-ppc:

    db4o-6.1-4.fc9.ppc  requires  mono(Mono.Cecil) = 0:0.6.8.8607
    libsvm-java-2.86-13.fc10.ppc  requires  libsvm = 0:2.86-13.fc10
    llvm-devel-2.3-2.fc10.ppc64  requires  llvm = 0:2.3-2.fc10
    php-devel-5.2.6-5.ppc64  requires  php = 0:5.2.6-5


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-10-ppc64:

    libsvm-java-2.86-13.fc10.ppc64  requires  libsvm = 0:2.86-13.fc10


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-10-x86_64:

    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexxapi.so.3
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexx.so.3
    php-devel-5.2.6-5.i386  requires  php = 0:5.2.6-5


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-10-i386:

    gedit-vala-0.3.2-3.fc10.1.i386  requires  libgtksourcecompletion-1.0.so.1
    python-tgext-admin-0.2.5-1.fc10.noarch  requires  python-tgext-crud


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-10-ppc:

    gedit-vala-0.3.2-3.fc10.1.ppc  requires  libgtksourcecompletion-1.0.so.1
    python-tgext-admin-0.2.5-1.fc10.noarch  requires  python-tgext-crud


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-10-ppc64:

    fedora-gnat-project-common-1.2-1.fc10.noarch  requires  gcc-gnat
    gadget-0.0.3-2.fc10.noarch  requires  ejabberd
    gedit-vala-0.3.2-3.fc10.1.ppc64  requires  libgtksourcecompletion-1.0.so.1()(64bit)
    python-tgext-admin-0.2.5-1.fc10.noarch  requires  python-tgext-crud


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-10-x86_64:

    gedit-vala-0.3.2-3.fc10.1.x86_64  requires  libgtksourcecompletion-1.0.so.1()(64bit)
    python-tgext-admin-0.2.5-1.fc10.noarch  requires  python-tgext-crud


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-10-i386:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc10.i386  requires  libunbound.so.0
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-2.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-IcpDas
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-IcpDas
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DAQ-DiamondBoards
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-DB-FireBird
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc10.i386  requires  Special-FLibMath
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-2.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-2.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-2.fc10.i386  requires  openscada-Special-FLibMath
    thunar-vcs-plugin-0.1.0-1.fc10.i386  requires  Thunar >= 0:1.0.0


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-10-ppc:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc10.ppc  requires  libunbound.so.0
    thunar-vcs-plugin-0.1.0-1.fc10.ppc  requires  Thunar >= 0:1.0.0


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-10-ppc64:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc10.ppc64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)
    thunar-vcs-plugin-0.1.0-1.fc10.ppc64  requires  Thunar >= 0:1.0.0


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-10-x86_64:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)
    openscada-plc-0.6.4-2.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-IcpDas
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-IcpDas
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DAQ-DiamondBoards
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-DB-FireBird
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-server-0.6.4-2.fc10.x86_64  requires  Special-FLibMath
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-2.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibSYS
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-2.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibComplex1
    openscada-visStation-0.6.4-2.fc10.x86_64  requires  openscada-Special-FLibMath
    thunar-vcs-plugin-0.1.0-1.fc10.x86_64  requires  Thunar >= 0:1.0.0



From mel at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 13:32:32 2009
From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:32:32 -0400
Subject: FUDcon fun?
In-Reply-To: <1256101268.2314.385.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256101268.2314.385.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4ADF0D70.3010607@redhat.com>

> Some funding is available for those who have trouble covering travel /
> hotel costs, but it's fairly limited. You can indicate on the attendance
> table if you need funding - fill in your name but mark the 'funding'
> column to show that you need money. Get it done before Thursday as
> that's the date of the next meeting to allocate funds. Explaining why
> you're awesome and deserve money in the 'comments' column may help :)
> there are various money-saving tips on travel and lodging on the Wiki
> page - there's a bus running from Boston, and room sharing arrangements
> are being made in the Wiki table.

The next FUDCon meeting is on Thursday at 20:00 UTC in #fudcon-planning:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:FUDCon_Toronto_2009_Planning_meetings. 
You don't have to attend the meeting to get funded, but looking at the 
discussion in the last two meeting logs 
(http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/) might give you an 
idea of what kind of proposals we're looking for.

I'm going to be taking a pass through the pre-registration table at 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009#Pre-registration 
before the meeting, but emailing myself and Paul (mchua and pfrields at 
fedoraproject dot org) helps us make sure we're not missing any funding 
requests. We've gone through all the original requests in the 
pre-registration table by now, so the remaining funding is quite 
limited, but we're still trying to get as many people to FUDCon as 
possible, so please let us know *today* if you need travel help.

--Mel



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 13:46:02 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:46:02 -0400
Subject: checksums for beta?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1256132762.2325.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 22:15 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> should there not be immediately obvious checksums on the images
> available here?
> 
> http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-prerelease
> 
> or am i just missing them?

Hi Robert, thanks for pointing that out.  They are available, but the
CHECKSUMS don't appear to be referenced on that page.

      * http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/12-Beta/Fedora/i386/iso/Fedora-12-Beta-i386-CHECKSUM
      * http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/12-Beta/Fedora/ppc/iso/Fedora-12-Beta-ppc-CHECKSUM
      * http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/12-Beta/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-CHECKSUM

Not sure on the appropriate channel, but I'm raising your issue now on
#fedora-websites.  Will post back hopefully soon.

Thanks,
James
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From tcallawa at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 13:46:33 2009
From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:46:33 -0400
Subject: Intel Mac Mini Audio does not work
In-Reply-To: <1256091433.2314.327.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>
	<1256091433.2314.327.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4ADF10B9.40305@redhat.com>

On 10/20/2009 10:17 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 20:06 -0400, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
>> I've recently inherited an older Intel Mac Mini (Intel guts, not
>> NVIDIA). I installed F11 i386 on it and then upgraded to the F12 beta
>> (2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE), but I can't seem to get audio to work properly.
>>
>> I created /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and put in it:
>>
>> options snd-hda-intel model=macmini
>>
>> That didn't make anything work, but it seems correct.
>>
>> I've attached the info from an alsa-info.sh run.
>>
>> When I run aplay, it seems to playback (it runs for the duration it
>> should), but no audio is coming out of either of the analog ports on the
>> back (I don't have any digital audio equipment to test the digital port).
>>
>> Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. :)
> 
> Try model=auto as well as the options suggested by Johann and Stephen.
> If no model= options seem to do the trick, try poking around with the
> mixer: alsamixer -c0 . Also, run gnome-volume-control , go to the
> Hardware tab, and tell us what Profile is selected for the device.

None of the suggested model= options change anything. I've poked the
alsamixer -c0 settings without any luck. I've gone through all the
possible profile choices in gnome-volume-control, nothing causes it to
make sound.

I'm pretty sure the machine is capable of making sound, because it makes
the mac noise out its internal speaker on every reboot (although,
perhaps that is separate from the sound chip).

Any other advice?

~spot



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct 21 14:10:01 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:10:01 +0000
Subject: Intel Mac Mini Audio does not work
In-Reply-To: <4ADF10B9.40305@redhat.com>
References: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>	<1256091433.2314.327.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4ADF10B9.40305@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4ADF1639.5050402@hi.is>

On 10/21/2009 01:46 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> On 10/20/2009 10:17 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>   
>> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 20:06 -0400, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
>>     
>>> I've recently inherited an older Intel Mac Mini (Intel guts, not
>>> NVIDIA). I installed F11 i386 on it and then upgraded to the F12 beta
>>> (2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE), but I can't seem to get audio to work properly.
>>>
>>> I created /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and put in it:
>>>
>>> options snd-hda-intel model=macmini
>>>
>>> That didn't make anything work, but it seems correct.
>>>
>>> I've attached the info from an alsa-info.sh run.
>>>
>>> When I run aplay, it seems to playback (it runs for the duration it
>>> should), but no audio is coming out of either of the analog ports on the
>>> back (I don't have any digital audio equipment to test the digital port).
>>>
>>> Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. :)
>>>       
>> Try model=auto as well as the options suggested by Johann and Stephen.
>> If no model= options seem to do the trick, try poking around with the
>> mixer: alsamixer -c0 . Also, run gnome-volume-control , go to the
>> Hardware tab, and tell us what Profile is selected for the device.
>>     
> None of the suggested model= options change anything. I've poked the
> alsamixer -c0 settings without any luck. I've gone through all the
> possible profile choices in gnome-volume-control, nothing causes it to
> make sound.
>
> I'm pretty sure the machine is capable of making sound, because it makes
> the mac noise out its internal speaker on every reboot (although,
> perhaps that is separate from the sound chip).
>
> Any other advice?
>
> ~spot
>
>   

Did you get a sound from the rear jack? 

Smoltprofile please ;)

JBG
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From tcallawa at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 15:12:06 2009
From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:12:06 -0400
Subject: Intel Mac Mini Audio does not work
In-Reply-To: <4ADF1639.5050402@hi.is>
References: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>	<1256091433.2314.327.camel@adam.local.net>	<4ADF10B9.40305@redhat.com>
	<4ADF1639.5050402@hi.is>
Message-ID: <4ADF24C6.4050802@redhat.com>

On 10/21/2009 10:10 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:

> Did you get a sound from the rear jack? 

This mac mini has two rear analog jacks, one marked as input, one marked
as output "headphones". I currently have outputs plugged into both
ports, but I have yet to get any sound from either one.

This is exactly how it looks:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Mac_mini_opening.jpg/800px-Mac_mini_opening.jpg

> Smoltprofile please ;)

http://www.smolts.org/client/show/?uuid=pub_6cf87e28-1e73-4453-8fe4-98d3cadfe316

~spot



From kvolny at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 15:35:22 2009
From: kvolny at redhat.com (Karel =?iso-8859-1?q?Voln=FD?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:35:22 +0200
Subject: checksum/disk theories?
In-Reply-To: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>
References: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>
Message-ID: <200910211735.28315.kvolny@redhat.com>


On Wednesday 21 of October 2009 01:44:13 Tom Horsley wrote:
> I have the f12 Beta dvd images run through "split -b 1G" on
> a vfat usb stick. For both the i36 and the x86_64 images
> when I do something like this:
> 
> cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoa* >
>  ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
> 
> The sha256sum -c fails on the resulting file :-(. (The
>  checksums checked OK on the original files I downloaded).

something like that happened to me too ...

I needed to copy a really huge file via ssh over slow Internet 
connection, that got disconnected from time to time

so I had split the file in parts

I've run md5sum on the transferred parts to ensure everything was 
copied ok

still, after getting the pieces together, the checksum on the 
combined file failed

I've tried that several times (including splitting and 
transferring again) with no success

I wanted to file a bug, but eventually, I got to the other place 
with notebook and copied the data over local network, then I 
forgot about the case

so, please, try to reproduce the problem, and file the bug for me 
;-)

(and no, I do not suspect my hardware - copying huge files is 
without any problem, no other checksum has ever failed on any of 
those two involved machines, so it would be really strange that 
checking all the pieces passes, and magically there creeps in 
some bad bit on each try to combine those pieces)

K.
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From riku.seppala at kymp.net  Wed Oct 21 15:47:46 2009
From: riku.seppala at kymp.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Riku_Sepp=E4l=E4?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:47:46 +0300
Subject: first experience with f12 beta
Message-ID: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>

Hello,

Just installed f12 beta on my infamous HP dv9237eu laptop. I read that 
suspend will now work even when you have nvidia graphics adapter.
I try suspend to disk on kde, screen goes black but the cpu fan keeps 
rolling. System seems frozen so I have to use power button to shutdown.

Now when I boot I see:

*** An error occured during the file system check.
	*** ...
		*** ...
			*** ...
				Give root password for maintenance
					(or type Control-D to continue):


Indent looks weird but who cares. Now if I press ANY key I get:
	Login incorrect.
		Give root password for maintenance
			(or type Control-D to continue):

Control-D does not work and I can't type root password. How can I boot 
normally?


Riku



From rivanvx at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 15:49:25 2009
From: rivanvx at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Vedran_Mileti=C4=87?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:49:25 +0200
Subject: first experience with f12 beta
In-Reply-To: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
References: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Riku Sepp?l?  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Just installed f12 beta on my infamous HP dv9237eu laptop. I read that
> suspend will now work even when you have nvidia graphics adapter.
> I try suspend to disk on kde, screen goes black but the cpu fan keeps
> rolling. System seems frozen so I have to use power button to shutdown.
>
> Now when I boot I see:
>
> *** An error occured during the file system check.
> ? ? ? ?*** ...
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?*** ...
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?*** ...
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Give root password for maintenance
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?(or type Control-D to continue):
>
>
> Indent looks weird but who cares. Now if I press ANY key I get:
> ? ? ? ?Login incorrect.
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Give root password for maintenance
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?(or type Control-D to continue):
>
> Control-D does not work and I can't type root password. How can I boot
> normally?
>
>
> Riku
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529285

This should be fixed after updating (but I'm not sure how will you
update if you can't even boot...).

-- 
Vedran Mileti?



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 15:57:23 2009
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:57:23 +0300
Subject: first experience with f12 beta
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
	
Message-ID: 

2009/10/21 Vedran Mileti? 

> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Riku Sepp?l? 
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Just installed f12 beta on my infamous HP dv9237eu laptop. I read that
> > suspend will now work even when you have nvidia graphics adapter.
> > I try suspend to disk on kde, screen goes black but the cpu fan keeps
> > rolling. System seems frozen so I have to use power button to shutdown.
> >
> > Now when I boot I see:
> >
> > *** An error occured during the file system check.
> >        *** ...
> >                *** ...
> >                        *** ...
> >                                Give root password for maintenance
> >                                        (or type Control-D to continue):
> >
> >
> > Indent looks weird but who cares. Now if I press ANY key I get:
> >        Login incorrect.
> >                Give root password for maintenance
> >                        (or type Control-D to continue):
> >
> > Control-D does not work and I can't type root password. How can I boot
> > normally?
>

one option would be to boot live cd and fsck from there.

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From riku.seppala at kymp.net  Wed Oct 21 15:59:56 2009
From: riku.seppala at kymp.net (=?UTF-8?B?UmlrdSBTZXBww6Rsw6Q=?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:59:56 +0300
Subject: first experience with f12 beta
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
	
Message-ID: <4ADF2FFC.6050308@kymp.net>

On 10/21/2009 06:49 PM, Vedran Mileti? wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Riku Sepp?l?  wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Just installed f12 beta on my infamous HP dv9237eu laptop. I read that
>> suspend will now work even when you have nvidia graphics adapter.
>> I try suspend to disk on kde, screen goes black but the cpu fan keeps
>> rolling. System seems frozen so I have to use power button to shutdown.
>>
>> Now when I boot I see:
>>
>> *** An error occured during the file system check.
>>         *** ...
>>                 *** ...
>>                         *** ...
>>                                 Give root password for maintenance
>>                                         (or type Control-D to continue):
>>
>>
>> Indent looks weird but who cares. Now if I press ANY key I get:
>>         Login incorrect.
>>                 Give root password for maintenance
>>                         (or type Control-D to continue):
>>
>> Control-D does not work and I can't type root password. How can I boot
>> normally?
>>
>>
>> Riku
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529285
>
> This should be fixed after updating (but I'm not sure how will you
> update if you can't even boot...).
>

Thanks. My first install was just hour ago so I guess I just do new 
install.



From smooge at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 16:15:28 2009
From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen John Smoogen)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:15:28 -0600
Subject: Intel Mac Mini Audio does not work
In-Reply-To: <4ADF24C6.4050802@redhat.com>
References: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>
	<1256091433.2314.327.camel@adam.local.net> <4ADF10B9.40305@redhat.com>
	<4ADF1639.5050402@hi.is> <4ADF24C6.4050802@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <80d7e4090910210915s3a78a790xa5b064cb7986984d@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Tom "spot" Callaway
 wrote:
> On 10/21/2009 10:10 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>
>> Did you get a sound from the rear jack?
>
> This mac mini has two rear analog jacks, one marked as input, one marked
> as output "headphones". I currently have outputs plugged into both
> ports, but I have yet to get any sound from either one.
>
> This is exactly how it looks:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Mac_mini_opening.jpg/800px-Mac_mini_opening.jpg
>
>> Smoltprofile please ;)
>
> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/?uuid=pub_6cf87e28-1e73-4453-8fe4-98d3cadfe316
>
> ~spot
>

I don't have one to play with, but does it have a BIOS with settings
or self-tests? The reason is that the sound may be turned off there or
the self-test might show up. I think the internal speaker is like a PC
and has a different sound creator so it might not help.

Oh the hardware diagnosis is on Mac disk 1 .. from the howto:

On an Intel based Mac, insert Mac OS X Install disc 1 that came with
your Mac to your Mac, and hold letter D at boot. This will load it to
the hardware test.


-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.

Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for?
-- Robert Browning



From scott at ponzo.net  Wed Oct 21 16:45:42 2009
From: scott at ponzo.net (Scott Doty)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:45:42 -0700
Subject: F12 beta DVD upgrade woes?
Message-ID: <4ADF3AB6.2000103@ponzo.net>

Hi,

Grabbed the F12 beta DVD iso yesterday, burned it, and tried to run an
upgrade on my F11 laptop.

It proceeded smoothly and professionally, very impressive.  I had an
appointment, so I left it in the installation phase while I took
off...but alas, we had a power failure while I was gone, so it's not
clear if the installation finished properly.

The system boots, X starts up, etc. -- but attempts to run yum give an
error:

 _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_[/root]_(root at m5)_
# yum
There was a problem importing one of the Python modules
required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was:

   libnssdbm3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Please install a package which provides this module, or
verify that the module is installed correctly.

It's possible that the above module doesn't match the
current version of Python, which is:
2.6.2 (r262:71600, Aug 21 2009, 12:23:57)
[GCC 4.4.1 20090818 (Red Hat 4.4.1-6)]

If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please go to
the yum faq at:
  http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Investigation reveals that nss-softokn is supposed to have this file,
but it isn't installed.  Dependency problem I guess?

 Simple to fix, right?  But alas:

 _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_[/media/Fedora 12-Beta x86_64 DVD/Packages]_(root at m5)_
# rpm -i nss-softokn-3.12.4-10.fc12.x86_64.rpm
warning: nss-softokn-3.12.4-10.fc12.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA256
signature: NOKEY, key ID 57bbccba
error: unpacking of archive failed on file
/etc/prelink.conf.d/nss-softokn-prelink.conf;4adf394c: cpio: Digest mismatch
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Talk about frustrating!  This happens for any package I try to rpm -i
from the DVD.

I figure in the latter case, it's rpm & python that are confused,
currently booting the F12-beta DVD to run rescue mode & rpm --root
/mnt/sysimage [...] the package.

 -Scott
"vallor" on #fedora-qa




From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct 21 17:05:57 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:05:57 +0000
Subject: Intel Mac Mini Audio does not work
In-Reply-To: <4ADF24C6.4050802@redhat.com>
References: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>	<1256091433.2314.327.camel@adam.local.net>	<4ADF10B9.40305@redhat.com>	<4ADF1639.5050402@hi.is>
	<4ADF24C6.4050802@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4ADF3F75.6010206@hi.is>

On 10/21/2009 03:12 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> On 10/21/2009 10:10 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>
>   
>> Did you get a sound from the rear jack? 
>>     
> This mac mini has two rear analog jacks, one marked as input, one marked
> as output "headphones". I currently have outputs plugged into both
> ports, but I have yet to get any sound from either one.
>
> This is exactly how it looks:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Mac_mini_opening.jpg/800px-Mac_mini_opening.jpg
>
>   
>> Smoltprofile please ;)
>>     
> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/?uuid=pub_6cf87e28-1e73-4453-8fe4-98d3cadfe316
>   


Ah-ha just what I thought chipset 82801G :)  Known to be badly wired by
hardware manufacturers. On the macmini the linux kernel used to send the
output to the line in so plug into that :)

cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec

Let's asume that you get STAC9220/9221

/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt

STAC9220/9221
=============
  ref           Reference board
  3stack        D945 3stack
  5stack        D945 5stack + SPDIF
  intel-mac-v1  Intel Mac Type 1
  intel-mac-v2  Intel Mac Type 2
  intel-mac-v3  Intel Mac Type 3
  intel-mac-v4  Intel Mac Type 4
  intel-mac-v5  Intel Mac Type 5
  intel-mac-auto Intel Mac (detect type according to subsystem id)
  macmini       Intel Mac Mini (equivalent with type 3)
  macbook       Intel Mac Book (eq. type 5)
  macbook-pro-v1 Intel Mac Book Pro 1st generation (eq. type 3)
  macbook-pro   Intel Mac Book Pro 2nd generation (eq. type 3)
  imac-intel    Intel iMac (eq. type 2)
  imac-intel-20 Intel iMac (newer version) (eq. type 3)
  ecs202        ECS/PC chips
  dell-d81      Dell (unknown)
  dell-d82      Dell (unknown)
  dell-m81      Dell (unknown)
  dell-m82      Dell XPS M1210
  auto          BIOS setup (default)

And since this white little box contains the Atheros Communications,
Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter

it's an 2006 macmini which means version 1 or 2 I think first try it
with the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  ( if none then none ) and make
sure nothing is blocking line in since the audio might be passed out
that way ;)  alsamixer -c0 and to monitor pulseaudio output kill
pulseaudio ( pulseaudio -k ) and start it verbosly ( pulseaudio -vvvvv 
) If nothing ( without out any extra alsa tweaking put options
snd-hda-intel model=intel-mac-v1 ( or 2 or auto )
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and repeat :)

JBG 
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From bkoz at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 17:11:47 2009
From: bkoz at redhat.com (Benjamin Kosnik)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:11:47 -0700
Subject: first experience with f12 beta
In-Reply-To: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
References: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
Message-ID: <20091021101147.78de0cc7@mcgee.artheist.org>

 
> *** An error occured during the file system check.
> 	*** ...
> 		*** ...
> 			*** ...
> 				Give root password for maintenance
> 					(or type Control-D to
> continue):
> 
> 
> Indent looks weird but who cares. Now if I press ANY key I get:
> 	Login incorrect.
> 		Give root password for maintenance
> 			(or type Control-D to continue):
> 
> Control-D does not work and I can't type root password. How can I
> boot normally?

This happened to me.

>From digging down, it looks like on shutdown something in f12 beta sets
the last mounted time +6 hrs into the future on the root or boot
partition. When you re-boot, you get the weird behavior because the root
partition cannot be mounted because the last modified time is in the
future.

You can work around this by

1) waiting 6 hrs and then booting
2) setting the clock ahead in the BIOS and re-booting

-benjamin



From scott at ponzo.net  Wed Oct 21 17:18:51 2009
From: scott at ponzo.net (Scott Doty)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:18:51 -0700
Subject: F12 beta DVD upgrade woes?
In-Reply-To: <4ADF3AB6.2000103@ponzo.net>
References: <4ADF3AB6.2000103@ponzo.net>
Message-ID: <4ADF427B.3080703@ponzo.net>

On 10/21/2009 09:45 AM, Scott Doty wrote:
> I figure in the latter case, it's rpm & python that are confused,
> currently booting the F12-beta DVD to run rescue mode & rpm --root
> /mnt/sysimage [...] the package.
>   

All good -- yum is back & yum check-update worked ... just had to
disable rpmfusion repos.

Not bad for a first beta!  koji shows that nss-softokn had a change made
yesterday in rawhide, but maybe the beta DVD should be respun(?).  I'm
not sure how often that happens, so thought I'd mention it.

yum update running now, it is a beautiful thing to behold. :)

 -Scott
Linux m5.ponzo.net 2.6.31.1-56.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Sep 29 16:16:22
EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Fedora release 11.92 (Rawhide)



From christoph.frieben at googlemail.com  Wed Oct 21 17:54:24 2009
From: christoph.frieben at googlemail.com (Christoph Frieben)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:54:24 +0200
Subject: first experience with f12 beta
In-Reply-To: <20091021101147.78de0cc7@mcgee.artheist.org>
References: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
	<20091021101147.78de0cc7@mcgee.artheist.org>
Message-ID: 

2009/10/21 Benjamin Kosnik

> From digging down, it looks like on shutdown something in f12 beta sets the
> last mounted time +6 hrs into the future on the root or boot partition. When
> you re-boot, you get the weird behavior because the root partition cannot be
> mounted because the last modified time is in the future.
>
> You can work around this by
>
> 1) waiting 6 hrs and then booting
> 2) setting the clock ahead in the BIOS and re-booting
>
> -benjamin


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523378
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From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 19:43:16 2009
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:13:16 +0530
Subject: Gconf-Sanity-Check
Message-ID: <78323d480910211243q1669ac68p618a79606b173574@mail.gmail.com>

Fedora 11 Stable updated

X86-64

After the last update possibly, I am not able to login in to kde because
of "/usr/libexec/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status-256".

Also a message about gnome power manager is displayed.

The only other thing I did was a minor adjustment to xorg.conf
(changed option autoadddevices from on to off and then on)

This seems to be a regression ?


Best

A. Mani




-- 
A. Mani
ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://www.logicamani.co.cc



From farrellj at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 19:52:47 2009
From: farrellj at gmail.com (Jason Farrell)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:52:47 -0400
Subject: Gconf-Sanity-Check
In-Reply-To: <78323d480910211243q1669ac68p618a79606b173574@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480910211243q1669ac68p618a79606b173574@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:43 PM, A. Mani  wrote:
> of "/usr/libexec/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status-256".

First thing to check when you see that error is if permissions on your
homedir have also changed.
what does "namei -m /home/username" report?

-- 
Jason



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 21:14:28 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:14:28 -0700
Subject: Intel Mac Mini Audio does not work
In-Reply-To: <4ADF1639.5050402@hi.is>
References: <4ADE50A1.5050700@redhat.com>
	<1256091433.2314.327.camel@adam.local.net> <4ADF10B9.40305@redhat.com>
	<4ADF1639.5050402@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1256159668.2314.417.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 14:10 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:

> Smoltprofile please ;)

Johann, you don't need the smolt profile. You can already see what codec
it is based on the alsa-info output Tom already provided. We already
suggested a list of probable model= parameters for him to try, based on
that.

Tom, assuming none of the other model= parameters does anything, please
file a bug explaining the problem. Attach the alsa-info output and
specify what model= parameters and volume tweaks you tried. Set it on
the kernel or alsa-lib package and assign to Jaroslav Kysela (jkysela at
redhat). thanks!

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 21:17:24 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:17:24 -0700
Subject: first experience with f12 beta
In-Reply-To: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
References: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
Message-ID: <1256159844.2314.419.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 18:47 +0300, Riku Sepp?l? wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Just installed f12 beta on my infamous HP dv9237eu laptop. I read that 
> suspend will now work even when you have nvidia graphics adapter.

well, it's more that the nouveau driver in general now implements
suspend/resume support, whereas it didn't before. suspend/resume being
how it is, there'll still be some systems where it doesn't work because
of specific bugs, whether these are in the nouveau driver or not. :/

try reinstalling (as you thought), doing rawhide updates, then try the
suspend again. if it still doesn't work, it's bug filin' time :)

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From gene at czarc.net  Wed Oct 21 21:24:52 2009
From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:24:52 -0400
Subject: long standing aggravation
Message-ID: <200910211724.52927.gene@czarc.net>

I have had a long standing aggravation dealing with anaconda's boot disk order 
and how grub is set.  When I get things "right", the install and reboot work 
fine.  Often as not, I don't get it right.  But, with a lot of experience with 
this problem, the fix is "easy" ... after the install, boot up in rescue mode 
and change /boot/grub/grub.conf so that (hdN,i) is set correctly [e.g., change 
(hd2,7) to be (hd0,7)] ... then, after chroot'ing to the system run grub-
install /dev/xxxx [such as grub-install /dev/sda8].  The "cost" is that I get 
an selinux relabel during the first bootup.

This problem has been BZ'ed a number of times such as --
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=431638
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=431644
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435878

These reports are generally closed with "live with it, there is not much we 
can do" ... just set the boot selection and bios order options to the 
"correct" values.

Putting in yet another BZ report does not seem to be very promising.  
Therefore, I thought that maybe some discussion on this list (or maybe this 
should be on the devel list) might prove more beneficial.

Most of my recent experience has been on my test system where I have installed 
Fedora 10, Fedora 11, and Fedora 12-rawhide a number of times.

My hardware:
- ASUS M4A78 PRO mobo
- AMD 940 Phenom processor with 8GB ram.
- one 1.5TB disk (call this scsi0)
- two 1.0TB disks (call them scsi1 and scsi2)
- one DVD drive (call this scsi4).
- plus two NICs and the usual set of other stuff.

BTW, try buying small disks these days .. cost and performance where the 
deciding factors ... not storage capacity.

This system is not just dual-boot but is multi-boot ... a single small Fedora 
installation on scsi0 with grub installed in scsi0's MBR ... this small system 
is used for "emergencies", as a boot selector, and to pre-partition my disks 
with LVM.

Besides the "small Fedora", scsi0 has four /boot partitions with the rest of 
the disk as physical LVM.  This physical LVM has a single volume group with 
root1, root2, root3, and root4 logical volumes allocated plus a /home logical 
volume.  This gives me the ability to have up to four separate installations I 
can select to run [I always fresh install, never upgrade].  All installs are 
"custom layouts" for disks and edit rather than allocate partitions of logical 
volumes.

The other two disks (scsi1 and scsi2) are a single LVM volume group that I use 
for data storage such as my collection of iso images and my storage for qemu-
kvm disk images.  I could possibly fit everything onto a single drive but 
experience with performance says that root and /home need to be separate from 
data such as qemu-kvm image files.

When I boot up the BIOS lists the disks as scsi0, scsi1, and scsi2 (not by 
those names but in that order ... or at least the 1.5TB is always first and 
that is the MBR that is booted.

After booting the F12-Beta DVD in either rescue mode or installation mode, if 
I go to VT-2 and do "cat /proc/scsi/scsi", this list is always in the "proper" 
order of scsi0, scsi1, and scsi2.  But anaconda shows the order as scsi1, 
scsi2, and scsi0 (third place).

Note: the physical order that the disk cables are plug into the mobo's SATA 
interfaces is scsi0, scsi1, and scsi2.

On at least one occasion installing Fedora (10, 11, or 12 ... I forget which), 
the boot partition after installation was "sdc" and it worked!

Naturally, since /etc/fstab has disks referenced by UUID or LVM name, stuff can 
shuffle around with no problems.  But grub is something else.

While anaconda seems to be pretty much consistent, what is it using to 
determine boot order since the list in ./proc/scsi/scsi is the correct order?

If I guess right during the install, everything works.  If I guess wrong then 
I have to go back and fix things which, like I said, I have lots of experience 
doing.

Guessing right is not always as easy as I described above.  One system I had 
(which I no longer have) had a 120GB PATA disk and a 120GB SATA disk ... the 
PATA disk was booted by the BIOS.  And then there is the situation where you 
have two identical disks.

I am not really python literate so figuring out what anaconda is doing is not 
simple for me.

Can someone explain how anaconda figures out boot/disk order and is there some 
guarantee that the algorithm will not change between Fedora releases?

Question: should I cross post to the devel list or is the test list sufficient?

Gene




From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 21:44:14 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:44:14 -0700
Subject: new tool: rpmguard - print important differences between RPMs
In-Reply-To: <9497e9990910210812p60386bf3jfdd1e2de69db8e62@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54723383.938161256122543756.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<238111468.938181256122586110.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<9497e9990910210812p60386bf3jfdd1e2de69db8e62@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256161454.2314.434.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 15:12 +0000, Mat Booth wrote:
> 2009/10/21 Kamil Paral :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have created a simple tool called rpmguard for checking differences
> > between RPM packages. It is very similar to rpmdiff, but it prints only
> > important changes, not all. Therefore it can be used every time a new
> > package is built to easily see if something hasn?t went completely wrong.

> Was it not easier to just add a "less verbose" mode to rpmdiff?

As we discussed in the QA meeting this week, that may well be ultimately
what this becomes, but for now it's a separate tool while Kamil works on
it. He may well end up submitting it as a patch for rpmdiff in the end.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed Oct 21 21:50:36 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:50:36 -0400
Subject: long standing aggravation
In-Reply-To: <200910211724.52927.gene@czarc.net>
References: <200910211724.52927.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <20091021175036.620c83fc@zooty>

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:24:52 -0400
Gene Czarcinski wrote:

> Can someone explain how anaconda figures out boot/disk order and is there some 
> guarantee that the algorithm will not change between Fedora releases?

I can't answer any of your other questions, but because I have watched
it over many releases, I can guarantee that the disk order is
randomly changed in just about every release :-(.



From poelstra at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 22:00:04 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:00:04 -0700
Subject: Fedora 12 Blocker Bug Meeting #1 :: 2009-10-23 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM
 EDT)
Message-ID: <4ADF8464.2070200@redhat.com>

When: Friday, 2009-10-23 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

We will be doing a follow-up to the meeting that was held today.  Below 
is the list bugs still blocking the release of Fedora 12.

527048 - nss - NEW  - nss-sysinit: system-wide nss sql empty key 
database shouldn't have a password
528005 - xorg-x11-drv-nouveau - NEW  - X server crash
528222 - initscripts - NEW  - LiveCD intermittently gets stuck during 
shutdown
509733 - gvfs - NEW  - Process /usr/libexec/gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor 
received signal 11
528909 - DeviceKit-disks - NEW  - DevKit 95-devkit-disks.rules should 
avoid scan all DM devices
517839 - hsqldb - NEW  - bitxor and bitor both mapped to single bitor 
function
523110 - hsqldb - NEW  - autoincrement bustage on column redefinition
513864 - firefox - NEW  - Firefox crashes
501769 - kernel - NEW  - intel hda: snd_pcm_avail/snd_pcm_delay overflows
523378 - kernel - NEW  - [kernel] file system errors for recent 2.6.31 
kernels
530169 - kernel - NEW  - nouveau + gdm crashes
493472 - kernel - NEW  - [945GM] KMS: LVDS wrongly detected as 
connected, DVI monitor resolution incorrectly set
514760 - redhat-lsb - NEW  - cleanup script segfaults during yum upgrade
498968 - distribution - NEW  - Fedora 12 Virtualization Target Blocker
521519 - gedit - NEW  - gedit 2.27 leaking memory
527089 - plymouth - NEW  - repaire console is not accessible
520480 - kde-settings - NEW  - F12 KDE blocker
523815 - nautilus - NEW  - nautilus hoses vino
514415 - xorg-x11-server - NEW  - X server locks up every time 
notification is about to be displayed
518962 - xorg-x11-drv-ati - NEW  - ATI - Caught signal 11 (Segmentation 
fault). Server aborting
522929 - xorg-x11-drv-ati - NEW  - repeated system crashes
521512 - kernel - ASSIGNED  - KMS: X Window Frozen with Radeon XPRESS 200M
526154 - thunderbird - ASSIGNED  - localisation breaks sending mail
512845 - xulrunner - ASSIGNED  - setroubleshoot:      SELinux is 
preventing firefox from changing a writable memory segment executable.
526699 - anaconda - ASSIGNED  - CryptoError: luks_format failed for 
'/dev/mapper/VolGroup-LogVol00'
517491 - anaconda - ASSIGNED  - Anaconda fails if filesystem should be 
shrunk
528312 - xorg-x11-server - ASSIGNED  - udev takes almost 100% CPU on 
resume from suspend (and Xorg are to be blamed)
522187 - pango - ASSIGNED  - Java (so Eclipse too) crashes
521322 - xorg-x11-drv-ati - ASSIGNED  - no graphics and no console for 
F12-Snap1-x86_64-Live
522137 - xorg-x11-drv-ati - ASSIGNED  - Test_Day:2009-09-09_Radeon: 
Multiple tests crash X.org
522970 - xorg-x11-drv-ati - ASSIGNED  - popup messages unreadable
493058 - anaconda - ASSIGNED  - Custom partitioning creation/edit causes 
traceback
526549 - anaconda - ASSIGNED  - rats_install kickstart fails due to swap 
device prompt
526021 - yaboot - ASSIGNED  - f12 beta failed to boot on ppc platform 
after  autopart and encrypted installation
506075 - kernel - ASSIGNED  - snd_intel8x0: snd_pcm_avail()/ 
snd_pcm_delay() overflow
514000 - alsa-lib - ASSIGNED  - Aureon 5.1 MkII can't do 5.1 anymore
523768 - alsa-utils - ASSIGNED  - [abrt] crash detected in 
alsa-utils-1.0.21-2.fc12
514600 - kernel - ASSIGNED  - Intel 82G965 requires 'nomodeset' 
workaround to get working text-mode
528537 - kernel - ASSIGNED  - fails to get kickstart file over nfs.
528048 - xorg-x11-drv-intel - ASSIGNED  - display black after resume
516057 - webkitgtk - ASSIGNED  - gets whacked by selinux execmem check
527426 - plymouth - ASSIGNED  - (plymouth) No text prompt for encryption 
password (but keyboard input is accepted)
520750 - PackageKit - ASSIGNED  - Software Update windows checks for 
update does not stop ..
512944 - fast-user-switch-applet - ASSIGNED  - fast-user-switching locks 
up login screen
527920 - gdm - ASSIGNED  - gdm doesn't show user list and crashes - 
unable to login
523800 - xorg-x11-drv-neomagic - ASSIGNED  - X.org doesn't work on 
ThinkPad 600X (NeoMagic MagicGraph256ZX)
527520 - anaconda - MODIFIED  - post-install lxde system boots in text mode
526697 - anaconda - MODIFIED  - Trying to change encryption status of 
partition ends with error message: The mount point "" is in use. Please 
pick another
527952 - anaconda - MODIFIED  - AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no 
attribute 'disk'
528317 - anaconda - MODIFIED  - anaconda traceback in getDefaultTimeZone 
KeyError en_AU
529766 - NetworkManager - MODIFIED  - applet won't start
517260 - anaconda - MODIFIED  - liveinst fails at partitioning screen
519766 - nss - MODIFIED  - (nss) FORTIFY_SOURCE buffer overflows and 
other issues in test suite
520162 - nss - MODIFIED  - nss-devel no longer provides pkgconfig(nss)
524168 - anaconda - MODIFIED  - Wrong RAID10 recognition in anaconda 
while dmraid shows correct values
529209 - livecd-tools - MODIFIED  - PATCH: Tell dracut not to ask for 
LUKS passwords or activate mdraid sets
528097 - dmraid - MODIFIED  - /sbin/dmraid needs possibly unmounted /usr/lib
528497 - firstaidkit - MODIFIED  - FirstAidKit does not start when using 
F-12-Beta rescue mode from disc1.iso
529794 - setuptool - MODIFIED  - cannot modify firewall using 'setup'
506013 - anaconda - MODIFIED  - liveinst crash - DBusException ... No 
such property HwAddress
515441 - anaconda - MODIFIED  - Can't select local CD/DVD after provide 
a wrong NFS location during install of F12 alpha
527258 - anaconda - MODIFIED  - When using NFS installation source - 
Cannot retrieve repository metadata for respository: UIedited_0.
518623 - unixODBC - ON_QA  - busted sizes for SQLBIGINT and ODBCINT64 etc

Thanks for your help and time,
John



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 21 22:05:07 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:05:07 -0700
Subject: Fedora 12 Blocker Bug Meeting #1 :: 2009-10-23 @ 15:00 UTC (11
 AM EDT)
In-Reply-To: <4ADF8464.2070200@redhat.com>
References: <4ADF8464.2070200@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1256162707.2314.435.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 15:00 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> When: Friday, 2009-10-23 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT)
> Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net
> 
> We will be doing a follow-up to the meeting that was held today.  Below 
> is the list bugs still blocking the release of Fedora 12.

Bring snacks, this will be a long one :)

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 00:16:14 2009
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:46:14 +0530
Subject: Gconf-Sanity-Check
In-Reply-To: 
References: <78323d480910211243q1669ac68p618a79606b173574@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <78323d480910211716k226c2863yba5d70b3c05a9bb1@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Jason Farrell  wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:43 PM, A. Mani  wrote:
>> of "/usr/libexec/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status-256".
>
> First thing to check when you see that error is if permissions on your
> homedir have also changed.
> what does "namei -m /home/username" report?


drwxr-xr-x  /
drwxr-xr-x  /home
drwx------  /username

/home is encrypted

Best

A. Mani


-- 
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ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://www.logicamani.co.cc



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 01:01:22 2009
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:01:22 +0500
Subject: Gconf-Sanity-Check
In-Reply-To: <78323d480910211716k226c2863yba5d70b3c05a9bb1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480910211243q1669ac68p618a79606b173574@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<78323d480910211716k226c2863yba5d70b3c05a9bb1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <78323d480910211801g6f07a154w5800758100e805f7@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:16 AM, A. Mani  wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Jason Farrell  wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:43 PM, A. Mani  wrote:
>>> of "/usr/libexec/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status-256".
>>
>> First thing to check when you see that error is if permissions on your
>> homedir have also changed.
>> what does "namei -m /home/username" report?
>
>
> drwxr-xr-x ?/
> drwxr-xr-x ?/home
> drwx------ ?/username
>
> /home is encrypted


It was /tmp . Only superuser could read it :)



-- 
A. Mani
ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://www.logicamani.co.cc



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Thu Oct 22 01:24:01 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:24:01 -0400
Subject: long standing aggravation
In-Reply-To: <20091021175036.620c83fc@zooty>
References: <200910211724.52927.gene@czarc.net> <20091021175036.620c83fc@zooty>
Message-ID: <4ADFB431.5050206@cox.net>

On 10/21/2009 05:50 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:24:52 -0400
> Gene Czarcinski wrote:
>
>> Can someone explain how anaconda figures out boot/disk order and is there some
>> guarantee that the algorithm will not change between Fedora releases?
>
> I can't answer any of your other questions, but because I have watched
> it over many releases, I can guarantee that the disk order is
> randomly changed in just about every release :-(.
>

So far with all of the incarnations of F12, and fresh installs of F10, 
F11, Centos and Omega, anaconda has ordered the disks on my test system 
per the bios ordering even tho they are not in order by letter. I.e, 4 
SATA disks (A..D) and 2 IDE (F, G).  In the bios I have them ordered F, 
G, A to D and this is the ordering anaconda has maintained.  Anaconda 
initally wanted to put /boot on sdf and I let it since it was the first 
bios disk.  Each test install of a different distro or version of Fedora 
gets its own boot sector and I just tell the boot loader dialogue to 
install in the first sector of the /boot partition.



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Thu Oct 22 01:44:49 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:44:49 +0800
Subject: checksum/disk theories?
In-Reply-To: <200910211735.28315.kvolny@redhat.com>
References: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>
	<200910211735.28315.kvolny@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4ADFB911.2080207@herakles.homelinux.org>

Karel Voln wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 of October 2009 01:44:13 Tom Horsley wrote:
>> I have the f12 Beta dvd images run through "split -b 1G" on
>> a vfat usb stick. For both the i36 and the x86_64 images
>> when I do something like this:
>>
>> cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoa* >
>>  ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
>>
>> The sha256sum -c fails on the resulting file :-(. (The
>>  checksums checked OK on the original files I downloaded).
> 
> something like that happened to me too ...
> 
> I needed to copy a really huge file via ssh over slow Internet 
> connection, that got disconnected from time to time

I expect that if you can use ssh, you can also use rsync. With suitable 
options (and they are legion), rsync will happily resume and, if you 
exercise some skill, repair large files.

Don't use checksum on a public server you don't own, I was discussing 
this with Jason from planetmirror one time and apparently it can kill 
the server.

Or sftp, but I've not used that much to find out about its 
resume/recovery options.




-- 

Cheers
John

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From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Thu Oct 22 01:49:46 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:49:46 +0800
Subject: first experience with f12 beta
In-Reply-To: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
References: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
Message-ID: <4ADFBA3A.6060006@herakles.homelinux.org>

? wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Just installed f12 beta on my infamous HP dv9237eu laptop. I read that 
> suspend will now work even when you have nvidia graphics adapter.
> I try suspend to disk on kde, screen goes black but the cpu fan keeps 
> rolling. System seems frozen so I have to use power button to shutdown.
> 
> Now when I boot I see:
> 
> *** An error occured during the file system check.
>     *** ...
>         *** ...
>             *** ...
>                 Give root password for maintenance
>                     (or type Control-D to continue):
> 
> 
> Indent looks weird but who cares. Now if I press ANY key I get:
>     Login incorrect.
>         Give root password for maintenance
>             (or type Control-D to continue):
> 
> Control-D does not work and I can't type root password. How can I boot 
> normally?

Oh, over-zealous security nazis.[1] Easily defeated. Boot with the option
init=/bin/bash

It gets you a shell (bash) and, with any luck, initrd has found your 
disks so you can run fsck on everything.

1 So described because, alone, the effort is so futile. Give me physical 
access, I own the system. Unless you use encryption.


-- 

Cheers
John

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From jscotka at redhat.com  Thu Oct 22 06:37:44 2009
From: jscotka at redhat.com (Jan Scotka)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:37:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Test-Announce] Power Managemet Testday 22. Oct 2009
Message-ID: <976449497.1053121256193464371.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

Hi folks,
Today 2009-10-22 is planned next Power Management Test Day.
We will be glad to see you all there.
For more info:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PowerManagementF12
 
and link to today testday:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-22

please join #fedora-test-day on freeenode irc From 12:00 to 21:00 UTC (8am -> 5pm EDT) and append your results.

Regards
  Honza
_______________________________________________
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test-announce at lists.fedoraproject.org
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From hughsient at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 07:47:24 2009
From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:47:24 +0100
Subject: Fedora 12 Blocker Bug Meeting #1 :: 2009-10-23 @ 15:00 UTC (11
	AM EDT)
In-Reply-To: <4ADF8464.2070200@redhat.com>
References: <4ADF8464.2070200@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <15e53e180910220047x774c8590sdea66e9ad332d4fb@mail.gmail.com>

2009/10/21 John Poelstra :
> 520750 - PackageKit - ASSIGNED ?- Software Update windows checks for update
> does not stop ..

This has been reported by one person (no dupes), and I'm still waiting
for more information. I suspect it's actually a hardware problem or
file-system corruption on the reporters computer. Basically, I don't
think this should be a blocker.

Richard.



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 22 10:30:28 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:00:28 +0530
Subject: nm-apple won't start
Message-ID: <4AE03444.5070500@fedoraproject.org>

H,

After the recent set of updates post-beta, nm-applet doesn't start

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529766

You just have to run nm-applet manually once more as a workaround. Just FYI.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 22 10:44:07 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:14:07 +0530
Subject: first experience with f12 beta
In-Reply-To: <4ADFBA3A.6060006@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
	<4ADFBA3A.6060006@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <4AE03777.2010203@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/22/2009 07:19 AM, John Summerfield wrote:
> Oh, over-zealous security nazis.[1] Easily defeated. Boot with the option
> init=/bin/bash
> 
> It gets you a shell (bash) and, with any luck, initrd has found your
> disks so you can run fsck on everything.
> 
> 1 So described because, alone, the effort is so futile. Give me physical
> access, I own the system. Unless you use encryption.

Encryption is not as full proof as you imagine.

http://www.bress.net/blog/archives/162-Security-is-a-multilayered-problem.html

Rahul



From christoph.frieben at googlemail.com  Thu Oct 22 10:57:32 2009
From: christoph.frieben at googlemail.com (Christoph Frieben)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:57:32 +0200
Subject: first experience with f12 beta
In-Reply-To: <4AE03777.2010203@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
	<4ADFBA3A.6060006@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<4AE03777.2010203@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: 

2009/10/22 Rahul Sundaram

>
> Encryption is not as full proof as you imagine.
>
>
> http://www.bress.net/blog/archives/162-Security-is-a-multilayered-problem.html
>
> Rahul
>

foolproof?
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From mclasen at redhat.com  Thu Oct 22 11:32:41 2009
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:32:41 -0400
Subject: nm-apple won't start
In-Reply-To: <4AE03444.5070500@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4AE03444.5070500@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1256211161.1745.1.camel@planemask>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 16:00 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> H,
> 
> After the recent set of updates post-beta, nm-applet doesn't start
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529766
> 
> You just have to run nm-applet manually once more as a workaround. Just FYI.

That is fixed in todays rawhide.



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu Oct 22 12:48:59 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:48:59 -0400
Subject: Fedora 12 Blocker Bug Meeting #1 :: 2009-10-23 @ 15:00 UTC (11
 AM EDT)
In-Reply-To: <15e53e180910220047x774c8590sdea66e9ad332d4fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ADF8464.2070200@redhat.com>
	<15e53e180910220047x774c8590sdea66e9ad332d4fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256215739.2398.62.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 08:47 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> 2009/10/21 John Poelstra :
> > 520750 - PackageKit - ASSIGNED  - Software Update windows checks for update
> > does not stop ..
> 
> This has been reported by one person (no dupes), and I'm still waiting
> for more information. I suspect it's actually a hardware problem or
> file-system corruption on the reporters computer. Basically, I don't
> think this should be a blocker.

Richard: Btw ... thanks for this feedback ahead of the meeting.  With
such a large list to review, it's extremely helpful when folks review
their bugs ahead of time.  We do our best to collaboratively review the
bugs real-time.  But having feedback from the maintainers and/or people
experiencing the bug helps speed up the process.  

If you've got a spare minute waiting on a build ... take a look at the
list of bugs:

     1. Respond to the announcement with your $0.02 as Richard has done
     2. Alternatively, update the bz with your thoughts
              * Is the severity appropriate?
              * Is there a workaround?
              * What impact does the presence of this failure have on
                users?
              * What is your favorite color?
     3. As always, in a constructive manner, tell us how we can improve
        this process -
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_talk:Poelstra/blocker_bug_meeting_sop
 
Thanks,
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 22 13:06:12 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:06:12 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091022 changes
Message-ID: <20091022130612.GA12194@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Thu Oct 22 06:15:12 UTC 2009

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        Next generation Front-to-back web development megaframework built on Pylons
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        A dynamic DNS client for the free service afraid.org
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        GnuTLS module for the Apache HTTP server
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        Automatic Email Classification
New package py-radix
        Radix tree data structure for Python
New package python-catwalk
        A way to view your models using TurboGears
New package python-guppy
        A Python Programming Environment
New package rubygem-cucumber
        Tool to execute plain-text documents as functional tests
New package rubygem-ditz
        A command-line issue tracker
New package rubygem-extlib
        Support library for DataMapper and Merb
New package rubygem-mixlib-cli
        Simple ruby mixin for CLI interfaces
New package rubygem-mixlib-config
        Simple ruby config mixin
New package rubygem-mixlib-log
        Ruby mixin for log functionality
New package rubygem-systemu
        Multi-platform command execution and capture
New package rubygem-trollop
        A command-line option parsing library for ruby
New package sblim-cim-client
        Java CIM Client library
New package sblim-cmpi-network
        SBLIM Network Instrumentation
New package sblim-cmpi-nfsv3
        SBLIM nfsv3 instrumentation
New package sil-lateef-fonts
        An Arabic script unicode font
New package sil-padauk-fonts
        A font for Burmese and the Myanmar script
New package sil-scheherazade-fonts
        An Arabic script unicode font
New package stomppy
        Python stomp client for messaging
New package tcl-mysqltcl
        MySQL interface for Tcl
New package thunar-vcs-plugin
        SVN integration for the Thunar filemanager
New package tito
        A tool for managing rpm based git projects
New package torium
        A minimalistic, easily configurable torrent client for Linux
New package umlgraph
        Automated Drawing of UML Diagrams
New package vim-perl-tt2
        Syntax highlighting for the Template-Toolkit
New package wb_builder
        Wishbone Bus Builder
New package webacula
        Web interface of a Bacula backup system
New package whaawmp
        Lightweight Media Player
New package winwrangler
        Small desktop daemon to perform advanced window manipulations
New package x11vnc
        VNC server for the current X11 session
New package xfce4-stopwatch-plugin
        Stopwatch plugin for the Xfce panel
New package xmltooling
        XML signing and encrytion library
New package yaml-cpp
        A YAML parser and emitter for C++
New package yapet
        Curses based password encryption tool
New package zikula-module-advanced_polls
        Advanced voting system for Zikula
Removed package gadmin-squid
Updated Packages:

389-admin-1.1.9-1.fc12
----------------------
* Mon Sep 14 2009 Rich Megginson  - 1.1.9-1
- the 1.1.9 release


389-console-1.1.3-5.fc12
------------------------
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Rich Megginson  1.1.3-5
- bug 521523 - add the "which" package to the Requires


389-ds-base-1.2.3-1.fc12
------------------------
* Mon Sep 14 2009 Rich Megginson  - 1.2.3-1
- 1.2.3 release
- added template-initconfig to %files
- %posttrans now runs update to update the server instances
- servers are shutdown, then restarted if running before install
- scriptlets mostly use lua now to pass data among scriptlet phases


GMT-4.5.1-1.fc12
----------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Orion Poplawski  4.5.1-1
- Update to 4.5.1
- Enable gdal support


GMT-coastlines-2.0.1-1.fc12
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Orion Poplawski  2.0.1-1
- Update to 2.0.1


NetworkManager-0.7.996-5.git20091021.fc12
-----------------------------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Dan Williams  - 0.7.996-5.git20091021
- install: better fix for (rh #526519)
- install: don't build Bluetooth bits on s390 (rh #529854)
- nm: wired 802.1x connection activation fixes
- nm: fix crash after modifying default wired connections like "Auto eth0"
- nm: ensure VPN secrets are requested again after connection failure
- nm: reset 'accept_ra' to previous value after deactivating IPv6 connections
- nm: ensure random netlink events don't interfere with IPv6 connection activation
- ifcfg-rh: fix writing out LEAP connections
- ifcfg-rh: recognize 'static' as a valid BOOTPROTO (rh #528068)
- applet: fix "could not find required resources" error (rh #529766)


R-qtl-1.14.2-1.fc12
-------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Mattias Ellert  - 1.14.2-1
- New upstream release
- Disable the check since it trips on a missing suggested package
- Change license tag to GPLv3 to reflect an upstream license change


anjal-0.1.0-1.fc12
------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Peter Robinson  0.1.0-1
- Fix versioning

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Peter Robinson  0.1-1
- Official upstream 0.1 release


arora-0.10.1-1.fc12
-------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.1-1
- Update to 0.10.1

* Fri Oct 02 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.0-1
- Update to 0.10.0

* Fri Oct 02 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 0.10.0-2
- Fedorahome patch rebased


astyle-1.23-1.fc12
------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Thomas Spura  - 1.23-1
- Update to new version
- patch from Sep 24 2008 not needed anymore for gcc-4.4


at-3.1.10-39.fc12
-----------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 3.1.10-39
- 528582 add noreplace option into files section


audacious-plugins-2.1-6.fc12
----------------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 2.1-6
- Rediff the underruns patch and set buffer_time_min.

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 2.1-5
- Patch pulseaudio plugin to not get confused by volume values passed
  in via callback.


aumix-2.8-21.fc12
-----------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Gabriel L. Somlo  - 2.8-21
- convert language files and fix ncurses setup for utf-8, (bugzilla # 528279)


autotrust-0.3.1-2.fc12
----------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Paul Wouters  - 0.3.1-1
- Updated to autotrust 0.3.1
- Try restarting running nameservers from the autotrust cron job
- Use the "named" version generated by dnssec-configure as trust anchor includes

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Paul Wouters  - 0.3.1-2
- bump for tag


avogadro-0.9.8-3.fc12
---------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Rex Dieter  0.9.8-3
- rebuild (eigen2)


beanstalkd-1.4.2-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.4.2-1
- update to upstream 1.4.2

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.4-0
- update to upstream 1.4


bibletime-2.2-1.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Deji Akingunola  - 2.2-1
- Update to 2.2


bibtex2html-1.94-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Guido Grazioli  - 1.94-1
- Upstream 1.94


boost-1.39.0-8.fc12
-------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Petr Machata  - 1.39.0-8
- Package index.html in the -doc subpackage
- Resolves: #529030

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Petr Machata  - 1.39.0-7
- Several fixes to support PySide
- Resolves: #520087
- GCC 4.4 name resolution fixes for GIL
- Resolves: #526834


bullet-2.75-1.fc12
------------------
* Sat Oct 03 2009 Thomas Kowaliczek  - 2.75-1
- Updatet to new upstream version 2.75
- Updatet the patch file to work agian


cclive-0.5.2-1.fc12
-------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Nicoleau Fabien  0.5.2-1
- Update to 0.5.2


chmsee-1.0.7-1.fc12
-------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 bbbush  - 1.0.7-1
- upstream release, fixed crash


classads-1.0.4-1.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009  - 1.0.4-1
- Upgraded to 1.0.4 release


clive-2.2.7-1.fc12
------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Nicoleau Fabien  2.2.7-1
- Update to 2.2.7


cluster-3.0.4-1.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 3.0.4-1
- New upstream release
- spec file update:
  * explicitly Requires newer version of fence-agents

* Fri Oct 02 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 3.0.3-2
- spec file update:
  * gfs-pcmk now Requires dlm-pcmk


cluster-glue-1.0-0.11.b79635605337.hg.fc12
------------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Andrew Beekhof  - 1.0-0.10.b79635605337.hg
- Add install dependancy on perl-TimeDate for hb_report
- Update to upstream version b79635605337
  + Build: fix defines for pacemaker-pygui compatibility.
  + High: Tools: hb_report: log/events combining
  + High: doc: new README for wti_mpc
  + High: hb_report: add man page hb_report.8
  + High: hb_report: extract important events from the logs
  + High: stonith: external/ibmrsa-telnet: add support for later RSA cards
  + High: stonith: wti_mpc: support for MIB versions 1 and 3
  + Logd: Start/stop priorities are not created by configure
  + Med: sbd: Fix definition of size_t.
  + Med: sbd: Nodename comparison should be case insensitive (bnc#534445)
  + Med: wti_nps: add support for internet power switch model (bnc#539912)
  + Medium (LF 2194): LRM: fix return code on RA exec failure
  + Medium: Tools: hb_report: add -v option (debugging)
  + Medium: Tools: hb_report: options -C and -D are obsoleted
  + ha_logd: Fix a compile error/warning.
  + hb_report: report corosync packages too.
  + sbd: Accept -h (bnc#529574)
  + sbd: really fix the sector_size type.

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Andrew Beekhof  - 1.0-0.11.b79635605337.hg
- Fix botched tag


corosync-1.1.1-1.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 1.1.1-1
- New upstream release


couchdb-0.10.0-2.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Allisson Azevedo  0.10.0-1
- Update to 0.10.0.

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Allisson Azevedo  0.10.0-2
- Added patch to force init_enabled=true in configure.ac.

* Sun Oct 04 2009 Rahul Sundaram  0.9.1-2
- Change url. Fixes rhbz#525949


csound-5.10.1-13.fc12
---------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Peter Robinson  - 5.10.1-13
- Fix use of multiple midi devices, fix segfault (RHBZ 529293)


cvs-1.11.23-8.fc12
------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Jiri Moskovcak  1.11.13-8
- fixed install with --excludedocs rhbz#515981


cyphesis-0.5.21-1.fc12
----------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Alexey Torkhov  - 0.5.21-1
- Update to 0.5.21


cyrus-imapd-2.3.15-3.fc12
-------------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 2.3.15-3
- fix cyrus user shell for db import (#528126)


dalston-0.1.10-2.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Peter Robinson  0.1.10-1
- new upstream 0.1.10 release

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Peter Robinson  0.1.10-2
- update files list for new release


dbmail-2.2.11-10.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Bernard Johnson  - 2.2.11-10
- add patch to keep from mangling mime parts (bz #527690)


dejagnu-1.4.4-16.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Jiri Moskovcak  - 1.4.4-16
- fixed installation with --excludedocs rhbz#515949


dhcp-4.1.0p1-12.fc12
--------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Jiri Popelka  - 12:4.1.0p1-12
- Fix 56dhclient so network comes back after suspend/hibernate (#527641)


docbook-utils-0.6.14-21.fc12
----------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Ondrej Vasik  0.6.14-21
- fix locale-based papersize selection (#527395)


dogtail-0.7.0-1.fc12
--------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Zack Cerza  - 0.7.0-1
- New upstream release.
- Drop Requires on xorg-x11-server-Xvfb.
- Update URL and Source0.
- Ship NEWS file.


dovecot-1.2.6-4.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:1.2.6-4
- imap-login: If imap_capability is set, show it in the banner 
  instead of the default (#524485)

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:1.2.6-3
- sieve updated to 0.1.13 which brings these changes:
- Body extension: implemented proper handling of the :raw transform
  and added various new tests to the test suite. However, :content
  "multipart" and :content "message/rfc822" are still not working.
- Fixed race condition occuring when multiple instances are saving the
  same binary (patch by Timo Sirainen).
- Body extension: don't give SKIP_BODY_BLOCK flag to message parser,
  we want the body!
- Fixed bugs in multiscript support; subsequent keep actions were not
  always merged correctly and implicit side effects were not always
  handled correctly.
- Fixed a segfault bug in the sieve-test tool occuring when compile
  fails.
- Fixed segfault bug in action procesing. It was triggered while
  merging side effects in duplicate actions.
- Fixed bug in the Sieve plugin that caused it to try to stat() a NULL
  path, yielding a 'Bad address' error.

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:1.2.6-2
- fix init script for case when no action was specified

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:1.2.6-1
- dovecot updated to 1.2.6
- Added authtest utility for doing passdb and userdb lookups.
- login: ssl_security string now also shows the used compression.
- quota: Don't crash with non-Maildir++ quota backend.
- imap proxy: Fixed crashing with some specific password characters.
- fixed broken dovecot --exec-mail.
- Avoid assert-crashing when two processes try to create index at the
  same time.


dvisvgm-0.8.6-1.fc12
--------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Martin Gieseking  - 0.8.6-1
- updated to latest upstream release 0.8.6


e2fsprogs-1.41.9-5.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Eric Sandeen  1.41.9-5
- Allow superblock timestamp differences up to 24h (#522969)


easymock2-2.5-4.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Alexander Kurtakov  2.5-4
- Fix empty jar. Bug #530110.


efte-1.1-1.fc12
---------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 1.1-1
- Update to 1.1 which fixes a buffer overflow.


eigen2-2.0.6-1.fc12
-------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Rex Dieter  1:2.0.6-1
- eigen-2.0.6


emesene-1.5.1-1.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Allisson Azevedo  - 1.5.1-1
- Update to 1.5.1.


empathy-2.28.1-1.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Brian Pepple  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1.
- Drop no-settings patch.  Fixed upstream.

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0.1-3
- Include an upstream fix for a possible crash in the accounts dialog


environment-modules-3.2.7b-3.fc12
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 3.2.7b-3
- Support different flavors of "sh" (bug #529493)


exaile-0.3.0.1-1.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Deji Akingunola  - 0.3.0.1-1
- Update to 0.3.0.1


expendable-0.0.9-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Tim Waugh  0.0.9-1
- 0.0.9.


fedora-logos-12.0.1-1.fc12
--------------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 12.0.1-1
- Update to 12.0.1, switch to generic version of firstboot-left.png


fence-agents-3.0.4-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 3.0.4-1
- New upstream release
- BuildRequire libxslt and pexpect for automatic man page generation


findbugs-contrib-4.0.0-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Jerry James  - 4.0.0-1
- Update to 4.0.0


fontpackages-1.28-1.fc12
------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Nicolas Mailhot 
- 1.28-1
? Rework repo-font-audit to also generate individual packager nagmails


fuse-encfs-1.5-10.fc12
----------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Peter Lemenkov  1.5-10
- Added version in Requires for boost-devel


gcl-2.6.8-0.6.20090701cvs.fc12
------------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Jerry James  - 2.6.8-0.6.20090701cvs
- Update SELinux policy for confined users (bz 529757)

* Sun Sep 06 2009 Jerry James  - 2.6.8-0.5.20090701cvs
- Update SELinux files to give compiled maxima files the right context
- Drop SELinux compatibility kludge for early F-11 selinux-policy packages


gdb-7.0-2.fc12
--------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Jan Kratochvil  - 7.0-2
- Sync the .spec with RHEL/CentOS without EPEL, do not BuildRequires: fpc there.

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Jan Kratochvil  - 7.0-1
- Formal upgrade to the final FSF GDB release gdb-7.0.
- Fix GNU/Linux core open: Can't read pathname for load map: Input/output error.
- archer-jankratochvil-fedora12 commit: ce4ead356654b951a49ca78d81ebfff95e758bf5


givaro-3.3.0-2.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 D Haley  - 3.3.0-1
- Update to 3.3.0
- Relicence per CeCILL-B

* Fri Oct 09 2009 D Haley  - 3.3.0-2
- Tag bump


gloox-1.0-0.9.rc3.SVNr4204.fc12
-------------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Pavel Alexeev  - 1.0-0.9.rc3.SVNr4204
- As right mentioned by Peter Lemenkov, my naming cheme is incorrect, fixing.
- Expand "beta" define and magick to more common "prerel".

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Pavel Alexeev  - 1.0rc3-0.7.SVNr4203
- rc3.
- Euroelessar (one of qutIM developer, thank you) submit patches:
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=110
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=155
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=154
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=153
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=152
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=151
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=150
	http://bugs.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=149
	all is important and rev 4200 at least required.
- Include UPGRADING to %doc

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Pavel Alexeev  - 1.0rc3-0.8.SVNr4204
- New build due resolve my bugreport https://mail.camaya.net/horde/whups/ticket/?id=157


gmusicbrowser-1.0.2-1.fc12
--------------------------
* Sat Oct 03 2009 Remi Collet  - 1.0.2-1
- new upstream version


gnumeric-1.8.4-4.fc12
---------------------

goffice-0.6.6-4.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Robert Scheck  - 0.6.6-4
- Applied 3 patches from the 0.6 branch (#503068, #505001)


gtk-vnc-0.3.10-1.fc12
---------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 0.3.10-1
- Update to 0.3.10


gtk2-2.18.3-7.fc12
------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.3-5
- Tweak tooltip appearance

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.3-6
- Hack around metacity compositor limitations

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.3-7
- Try to catch some nm-applet problems by rejecting requests to
  load icons at size 0


hamster-applet-2.28.1-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Mads Villadsen  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to latest upstream release


haproxy-1.3.22-1.fc12
---------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.3.22-2
- update to 1.3.22
- add logrotate configuration

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.3.21-1
- update to 1.3.21

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.3.20-1
- update to 1.3.20

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.3.20-2
- relase bump


heartbeat-3.0.0-0.5.0daab7da36a8.hg.fc12
----------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Andrew Beekhof  - 3.0.0-0.5.0daab7da36a8.hg
- Resolve file conflict, shellfuncs is provided by resource-agents


highlight-2.13-1.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Jochen Schmitt  2.13-1
- New upstream release


hugin-2009.2.0-1.fc12
---------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Bruno Postle  2009.2.0-1
- 2009.2.0 release


ibus-1.2.0.20091014-2.fc12
--------------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Peng Huang  - 1.2.0.2001014-2
- Update to 1.2.0.20091014
- Change ICON in ibus.conf


ibus-chewing-1.2.0.20091002-1.fc12
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Ding-Yi Chen  - 1.2.0.20091002-1
- Bug 518901 - ibus-chewing would not work with locale zh_TW.Big
- Fix Google issue 501: ibus-chewing buffer doesn't get cleared when
toggling ibus on/off
- Fix Google issue 502: ibus-chewing: character selection window stays
behind when toggling ibus off- Use WM's revised ibus-chewing icon.
- Debug output now marked with levels.

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Peng Huang  - 1.2.0.20090917-2
- Rebuild with ibus-1.2.0


ibus-m17n-1.2.0.20090617-4.fc12
-------------------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Peng Huang  - 1.2.0.20090617-4
- Update iok patch to fix build error.

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Parag  - 1.2.0.20090617-3
- Re-enable iok support to ibus-m17n.


ibus-qt-1.2.0.20091014-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Peng Huang  - 1.2.0.20091014-1
- Update to 1.2.0.20091014.


ikiwiki-3.14159265-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Thomas Moschny  - 3.14159265-1
- Update to 3.14159265.


imake-1.0.2-11.fc12
-------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  1.0.2-11
- makedepend 1.0.2


inkscape-0.47-0.16.pre3.20091017svn.fc12
----------------------------------------

iptux-0.5.0-1.fc12
------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Liang Suilong  0.5.0-1
- Upstream to 0.5.0


jakarta-commons-compress-1.0-1.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Sandro Mathys  - 1.0-1
- New version


kdeartwork-4.3.2-2.fc12
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-2
- rebuild (eigen2)


kdeedu-4.3.2-2.fc12
-------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-2
- rebuild (eigen2)


kdeplasma-addons-4.3.2-4.fc12
-----------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.3.2-4
- rebuild (eigen2)


kdesvn-1.4.1-1.fc12
-------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1


klavaro-1.3.4-1.fc12
--------------------
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.3.4-1
- Updated to new upstream version 1.3.4

* Mon Oct 05 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.3.3-1
- Updated to new upstream version 1.3.3


krb5-auth-dialog-0.13-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Mat?j Cepl  - 0.13-1
- New upstream release (fixes #530001)


libX11-1.3-1.fc12
-----------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Peter Hutterer  1.3-1
- libX11 1.3


libXcomposite-0.4.1-2.fc12
--------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  0.4.1-1
- libXcomposite 0.4.1

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  0.4.1-2
- build fix


libXdamage-1.1.2-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Adam Jackson  1.1.2-1
- libXdamage 1.1.2


libXext-1.1-1.fc12
------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Adam Jackson  1.1-1
- libXext 1.1


libXfixes-4.0.4-1.fc12
----------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  4.0.4-1
- libXfixes 4.0.4

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Parag  - 4.0.3-9
- Merge-Review #226071
- Removed XFree86-libs, xorg-x11-libs, XFree86-devel, xorg-x11-devel as Obsoletes
- Removed BR:pkgconfig
- spec cleanups


libXfont-1.4.1-1.fc12
---------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  1.4.1-1
- libXfont 1.4.1


libXi-1.3-1.fc12
----------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Peter Hutterer  1.3-1
- libXi 1.3


libXinerama-1.1-1.fc12
----------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Adam Jackson  1.1-1
- libXinerama 1.1


libXpm-3.5.8-2.fc12
-------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  3.5.8-2
- libXpm 3.5.8


libXrender-0.9.5-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Adam Jackson  0.9.5-1
- libXrender 0.9.5


libXres-1.0.4-1.fc12
--------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  1.0.4-1
- libXres 1.0.4


libXt-1.0.7-1.fc12
------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  1.0.7-1
- libXt 1.0.7


libXv-1.0.5-1.fc12
------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Adam Jackson  1.0.5-1
- libXv 1.0.5


libXxf86misc-1.0.2-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  1.0.2-1
- libXxf86misc 1.0.2


libXxf86vm-1.1.0-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Adam Jackson  1.1.0-1
- libXxf86vm 1.1.0


libdmx-1.1.0-1.fc12
-------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Adam Jackson  1.1.0-1
- libdmx 1.1.0


libguestfs-1.0.74-1.fc12
------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.0.74-1
- New upstream release 1.0.74.
- New API call: guestfs_find0.
- New tools: virt-ls, virt-tar.

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.0.73-1
- New upstream release 1.0.73.
- OCaml library now depends on xml-light.
- Deal with installed documentation.


libhugetlbfs-2.6-3.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Jarod Wilson  2.6-3
- Add hopefully-about-to-be-merged-upstream hugeadm enhancements
- Add huge pages setup helper script, using new hugeadm enhancements


libvirt-cim-0.5.7-1.fc12
------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Kaitlin Rupert  - 0.5.7-1
- Updated to latest upstream source


libxkbfile-1.0.6-1.1.fc12
-------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Adam Jackson  1.0.6-1
- libxkbfile 1.0.6


libxml2-2.7.6-1.fc12
--------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Daniel Veillard  - 2.7.6-1
- Upstream release of 2.7.6
- restore thread support off by default in 2.7.5


mcpp-2.7.2-4.fc12
-----------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Mary Ellen Foster  2.7.2-4
- Incorporate patch from Ice upstream project


md5deep-3.4-1.fc12
------------------
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Paul P. Komkoff Jr  - 3.4-1
- new upstream version


memtest86+-4.00-2.fc12
----------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Jarod Wilson  - 4.00-2
- Fix memtest-setup on systems without a separate /boot
  filesystem (#528651)


meshmagick-0.6.0-1.20090529svn2698.fc12
---------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Alexey Torkhov  - 0.6.0-1.20090529svn2698
- Update


midori-0.2.0-1.fc12
-------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Peter Gordon  - 0.2.0-1
- Update to new upstream release (0.2.0): Drag-scroll on touchscreen devices,
  Speed Dial fixes, faster AdBlock (for all WebKitGTK+ versions), updated DNS
  and IDN handling, new form history extension, various bookmark and history
  fixes.


mkbootdisk-1.5.4-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1.5.4-1
- syslinux image changed (#506181)


mod_fcgid-2.3.4-2.fc12
----------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Paul Howarth  2.3.4-2
- Add fixes from upstream svn for a number of issues, most notably that the
  fixconf script had an error in the regexp, which resulted in a prefix of
  "FcgidFcgid" on the updated directives


mod_perlite-0.10-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Chris Weyl  0.10
- update to 0.10


module-init-tools-3.9-4.fc12
----------------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Jon Masters  -3.9-4
- Update support for the sequencer interface.
- Resolves: #505421.

* Wed Sep 16 2009 Jon Masters  -3.9-3
- Sync weak-modules with RHEL.


mojito-0.21.4-2.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Peter Robinson  0.21.4-1
- Update to 0.21.4

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Peter Robinson  0.21.4-2
- enable digg support


monitor-edid-2.4-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Remi Collet  2.4-1
- new version


mpop-1.0.18-1.fc12
------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.0.18-1
- Updated to new upstream version 1.0.18


mrepo-0.8.6-5.fc12
------------------
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 0.8.6-5
- Generalize webserver requirement.


nautilus-2.28.1-1.fc12
----------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Tomas Bzatek  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


netpbm-10.47.04-1.fc12
----------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Jindrich Novy  10.47.04-1
- update to 10.47.04 (it is now stable) (#529525)
- fixes #502917, #482850, #482847


nfoview-1.8-1.fc12
------------------
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.8-1
- The icons need now hicolor-icon-theme
- Updated to new upstream version 1.8


ntp-4.2.4p7-7.fc12
------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Miroslav Lichvar  4.2.4p7-7
- add ntp-wait man page (#526161)
- fix init scripts (#527987)


ocaml-curses-1.0.3-6.fc12.1
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.0.3-6.fc12.1
- Use ncursesw for wide character support.


ocfs2-tools-1.4.3-3.fc12
------------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 1.4.3-3
- Explicitly BuildRequires: corosynclib-devel

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 1.4.3-1
- New upstream release.

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 1.4.3-2
- Fix -pcmk Requires.


octave-3.2.3-1.fc12
-------------------
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 6:3.2.3-1
- Update to 3.2.3
- Re-add make check


openscada-0.6.4-3.fc12
----------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Peter Lemenkov  - 0.6.4-3
- Fixed the rest of broken deps introduced with new sub-packages.

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.4-2
- Added of Obsoletes directive by Peter Lemenkov .

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.4-1
- The change version for release 0.6.4
- Moved Ui-VCAEngine module to the self package
- Removed QTStarter module from the main package
- Added the virtual plc, server, visStation packages
- Some cosmetics
- Fixed somes bugs Peter Lemenkov .

* Sun Oct 04 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.4-1
- Adding self module ICP_DAS
- Fixed Germany Language translations by Popkova Irina
- Delete openscada-0.6.3.3-openssl.patch from previouns version
- Adding the next version of the package.

* Tue Sep 01 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.3-13
- Adding Requires for webcfg, webcfgd, webvision, http and snmp
- Some cosmetics.


openttd-0.7.3-1.fc12
--------------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Alexey Torkhov  - 0.7.3-1
- New upstream release 0.7.3


openttd-opengfx-0.1.1-2.fc12
----------------------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Alexey Torkhov  - 0.1.1-1
- New upstream release 0.1.1
- Check md5sums of resulting files

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Alexey Torkhov  - 0.1.1-2
- Correct generation of grfs, using nforenum


openwsman-2.2.0-1.fc12
----------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.2.0-1
- Updated the sources to 2.2.0. Couple of major changes are as follows:
- Major changes:
- 	Adapt IANA ports of 5985 (http) and 5986 (https)
- 	Change the Ruby bindings module name to 'Openwsman'
- 	Change the Ruby plugin module name to 'Openwsman'
- 	IPv6 support (A_Venkatachalam at Dell.com)
- 	preliminary support for wbem intrinsic operations
-           'EnumerateClassNames' and 'GetClass' (kkaempf at suse.de)
-            (needs fixed sblim-sfcc, see www.openwsman.org for details)
-


pacemaker-1.0.5-3.fc12
----------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Andrew Beekhof  - 1.0.5-3
- Update the tarball from upstream to version 38cd629e5c3c
  + High: Core: Bug lf#2169 - Allow dtd/schema validation to be disabled
  + High: PE: Bug lf#2106 - Not all anonymous clone children are restarted after configuration change
  + High: PE: Bug lf#2170 - stop-all-resources option had no effect
  + High: PE: Bug lf#2171 - Prevent groups from starting if they depend on a complex resource which can't
  + High: PE: Disable resource management if stonith-enabled=true and no stonith resources are defined
  + High: PE: Don't include master score if it would prevent allocation
  + High: ais: Avoid excessive load by checking for dead children every 1s (instead of 100ms)
  + High: ais: Bug rh#525589 - Prevent shutdown deadlocks when running on CoroSync
  + High: ais: Gracefully handle changes to the AIS nodeid
  + High: crmd: Bug bnc#527530 - Wait for the transition to complete before leaving S_TRANSITION_ENGINE
  + High: crmd: Prevent use-after-free with LOG_DEBUG_3
  + Medium: xml: Mask the "symmetrical" attribute on rsc_colocation constraints (bnc#540672)
  + Medium (bnc#520707): Tools: crm: new templates ocfs2 and clvm
  + Medium: Build: Invert the disable ais/heartbeat logic so that --without (ais|heartbeat) is available to rpmbuild
  + Medium: PE: Bug lf#2178 - Indicate unmanaged clones
  + Medium: PE: Bug lf#2180 - Include node information for all failed ops
  + Medium: PE: Bug lf#2189 - Incorrect error message when unpacking simple ordering constraint
  + Medium: PE: Correctly log resources that would like to start but can't
  + Medium: PE: Stop ptest from logging to syslog
  + Medium: ais: Include version details in plugin name
  + Medium: crmd: Requery the resource metadata after every start operation


perl-Data-Report-0.10-3.fc12
----------------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Johan Vromans  0.10-3
- Remove Text::CSV_XS kludge now Text::CVS is packaged as well.


perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-0.41-1.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 0.41-1
- Upstream update.


perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-Mason-0.13-1.fc12
-----------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 0.13-1
- Upstream update.


perl-Net-OAuth-0.19-1.fc12
--------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Lubomir Rintel (Good Data)  - 0.19-1
- Update to 0.19, fixes security issue (2009.1)


php-Smarty-2.6.26-1.fc12
------------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Christopher Stone  2.6.26-1
- Upstream sync
- Update %source0 and %URL


php-ezc-Archive-1.3.4-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.3.4-1
- Update to 1.3.4


php-ezc-Authentication-1.3.1-1.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.3.1-1
- Update to 1.3.1


php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.4-1.fc12
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.3.4-1
- Update to 1.3.4


php-ezc-SystemInformation-1.0.8-1.fc12
--------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.0.8-1
- Update to 1.0.8


php-ezc-Template-1.4.1-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1


php-ezc-Webdav-1.1.2-1.fc12
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Guillaume Kulakowski  - 1.1.2-1
- Update to 1.1.2


pidgin-2.6.3-2.fc12
-------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Warren Togami  2.6.3-2
- Upstream backport:
    3abad7606f4a2dfd1903df796f33924b12509a56 msn_servconn_disconnect-crash


pidgin-musictracker-0.4.20-3.fc12
---------------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Jan Klepek  - 0.4.20-3
- fix for #528450

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Jan Klepek  0.4.20-2
- enabled debug package and honored RPM_OPT_FLAGS


pipestat-0.3.0-2.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner  - 0.3.0-2
- Added setuptools as a requirement.


poker-engine-1.3.4-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Christopher Stone  1.3.4-1
- Upstream sync


poker-eval-136.0-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Christopher Stone  136.0-1
- Upstream sync
- Remove no longer needed exit patch
- Remove no longer needed gcc44 patch


postgresql-pgpool-II-2.2.5-1.fc12
---------------------------------
* Sun Oct 04 2009 Devrim Gunduz  2.2.5-1
- Update to 2.2.5, for various fixes described at 
  http://lists.pgfoundry.org/pipermail/pgpool-general/2009-October/002188.html

* Sat Oct 03 2009 Devrim Gunduz  2.2.4-1
- Update to 2.2.4
- Re-apply a fix for #442372


postgresql_autodoc-1.40-2.fc12
------------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 - Devrim GUNDUZ  1.40-2
- Update to 1.40


powerman-2.3.5-2.fc12
---------------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Steven M. Parrish  - 2.3.5-2
- Fix multilib issue #509691


proftpd-1.3.2b-1.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Paul Howarth  1.3.2b-1
- Update to 1.3.2b
  - Fixed regression causing command-line define options not to work (bug 3221)
  - Fixed improper SSL/TLS certificate subjectAltName verification (bug 3275)
  - Use correct cached user values with "SQLNegativeCache on" (bug 3282)
  - Fix slower transfers of multiple small files (bug 3284)
  - Support MaxTransfersPerHost, MaxTransfersPerUser properly (bug 3287)
  - Handle symlinks to directories with trailing slashes properly (bug 3297)
- Drop upstreamed defines patch (bug 3221)


protobuf-2.2.0-2.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Lev Shamardin  - 2.2.0-2
- added export PTHREAD_LIBS="-lpthread"


pspp-0.6.2-1.fc12
-----------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Peter Lemenkov  0.6.2-1
- Ver. 0.6.2

* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.6.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


publican-fedora-0.19-3.fc12
---------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 R?diger Landmann  0.19-2
- Fix languages missing from 0.19-1 Makefile -- he-IL, nb-NO, nl-NL, sv-SE
- Tue Oct 6 2009 Maxim V. Dziumanenko 
- Update Fedora Feedback in Ukrainian

* Wed Oct 07 2009 R?diger Landmann  0.19-3
- Fix date in 0.19-2 changelog
- Update Fedora Feedback in Polish Piotr Dr?g 

* Mon Oct 05 2009 R?diger Landmann  0.19-1
- Update Legal Notice for CC-BY-SA-3.0 Unported, plus other tweaks per Red Hat legal
- Add Fedora logos with correct trademarks. BZ #492041
- Sat Oct 3 2009 Maxim V. Dziumanenko 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Ukrainian
- Fri Sep 4 2009 Ville-Pekka Vainio 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Finnish
- Sun Aug 9 2009 Josip ?ume?ki 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Croatian
- Sun Aug 9 2009 Robert Buj 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Catalan
- Sun Jun 15 2009 Sindre Wetjen 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Norwegian (Bokm?l)
- Fri Jun 05 2009 Oron Peled 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Hebrew
- Thu Jun 04 2009 Jurijs Kolomijecs 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Latvian
- Mon May 25 2009 Nikola ?tohanzl 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Czech
- Sun May 10 2009 Pavol ?imo 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Slovak 
- Fri May 08 2009 Arnes Arnautovi? 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Bosnian
- Sun Apr 19 2009 Manatsawin Hanmongkolchai 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Thai
- Thu Apr 16 2009 Sveinn ? Felli 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Icelandic
- Wed Apr 08 2009 Sulyok Peti 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Hungarian
- Mon Mar 23 2009 G?ran Uddeborg 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Swedish
- Fri Mar 20 2009  Noriko Mizumoto  
- Update Fedora Feedback in Japanese
- Thu Mar 19 2009 Kris Thomsen 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Danish
- Fri Mar 13 2009  Jeff Fearn  
- Fix right to left fo ar-AR. BZ #486162
- Patches and translations by Muayyad Alsadi  
- Tue Mar 10 2009 Alexey Vasyukov 
- Translate Fedora Feedback into Russian


purple-microblog-0.2.4-3.fc12
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Rahul Sundaram  - 0.2.4-2
- Change the description to be more readable. Fixes rhbz#529558
- Clean up the spec a bit

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Ismael Olea  - 0.2.4-3
- removing useless electric-fence BR


pypoker-eval-137.0-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Christopher Stone  137.0-1
- Upstream sync


pyserial-2.4-1.fc12
-------------------
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Paul P Komkoff Jr  - 2.4-1
- new upstream version


python-biopython-1.52-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 1.52-1
- Update to latest upstream (1.52)


python-epdb-0.11-4.fc12
-----------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Justin M. Forbes  - 0.11-4
- Allow the number of frames to be passed for telnet sessions.


python-fedora-0.3.16-1.fc12.1
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Toshio Kuratomi  - 0.3.16-1
- New release 0.3.16.

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Toshio Kuratomi  - 0.3.16-1.1
- Forgot to refresh the common dir.


python-psycopg2-2.0.13-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Devrim GUNDUZ  - 2.0.13-1
- Update to 2.0.13

* Fri Aug 14 2009 Devrim GUNDUZ  - 2.0.12-1
- Update to 2.0.12


python-toscawidgets-0.9.8-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.8-1
- 0.9.8 release
- Remove js patch which is now upstream

* Thu Aug 27 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.8-0.4.dev20090825
- Apply a patch from http://toscawidgets.org/trac/tw/ticket/30
  to fix problems with encoding javascript methods.

* Tue Aug 25 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.8-0.3.dev20090825
- Update to the latest mercurial snapshot, which fixes the python 2.4
  incompatibilites.

* Mon Aug 24 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.8-0.2.dev20090822
- Add a couple of patches to get things working on Python2.4

* Sat Aug 22 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.8-0.1.dev20090822
- Update to a 0.9.8 development snapshot

* Wed Aug 12 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.7.2-1
- 0.9.7.2


redhat-lsb-3.2-6.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 3.2-6
- apply fix from bz485367 (thanks to Jon Thomas)


resource-agents-3.0.4-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 3.0.4-1
- New rgmanager resource agents upstream release

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Andrew Beekhof  - 3.0.3-3
- Update Pacameker agents to upstream version: 099c0e5d80db
  + Add the ha_parameter function back into .ocf-shellfuncs.
  + Bug bnc#534803 - Provide a default for MAILCMD
  + Fix use of undefined macro @HA_NOARCHDATAHBDIR@
  + High (LF 2138): IPsrcaddr: replace 0/0 with proper ip prefix (thanks to Michael Ricordeau and Michael Schwartzkopff)
  + Import shellfuncs from heartbeat as badly written RAs use it
  + Medium (LF 2173): nfsserver: exit properly in nfsserver_validate
  + Medium: RA: Filesystem: implement monitor operation
  + Medium: RA: VirtualDomain: loop on status if libvirtd is unreachable
  + Medium: RA: VirtualDomain: loop on status if libvirtd is unreachable (addendum)
  + Medium: RA: iSCSILogicalUnit: use a 16-byte default SCSI ID
  + Medium: RA: iSCSITarget: be more persistent deleting targets on stop
  + Medium: RA: portblock: add per-IP filtering capability
  + Medium: mysql-proxy: log_level and keepalive parameters
  + Medium: oracle: drop spurious output from sqlplus
  + RA: Filesystem: allow configuring smbfs mounts as clones


rgmanager-3.0.4-1.fc12
----------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 3.0.4-1
- New upstream release


rhn-client-tools-0.7.4-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Miroslav Such?  0.7.4-1
- add versioned conflict to up2date


roundup-1.4.10-1.fc12
---------------------
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Paul P. Komkoff Jr  - 1.4.10-1
- new upstream version


rt3-3.8.4-6.fc12
----------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 3.8.4-6
- Update rt-3.8.4-rh-bz526870.diff.

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 3.8.4-4
- Add rt-3.8.4-rh-bz526870.diff (BZ #526870).

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Ralf Cors?pius  - 3.8.4-5
- Bump Release:.


sahana-0.6.2.2-6.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 David Nalley  0.6.2.2-6
- fixed security issue noted in bz 530255


sblim-cmpi-devel-2.0.0-2.fc12
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.0.0-2
- CmpiData_constructor_4_CmpiString: This patch allows providers to convert
-   CMPIData to String. The conversion of retrieving string info from CMPIData was wrong.
-   This patch fixes the conversion.


sblim-sfcb-1.3.4-9.fc12
-----------------------
* Wed Sep 30 2009 - 1.3.4-9
- LocalInterfaceInvokeMethodFix: CHARS and string were handled the same.
-  They are differentiated in this patch.
- destroyThreadKey: Local sfcb connect was creating thread specific data
-  associating a key to it. This won't get deleted resulting in crash
-  of opwsman, sfcc and sfcb. This patch deletes that data.


sblim-sfcc-2.1.0-3.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Praveen K Paladugu  - 2.1.0-3
- Added a patch to prevent crash because of uninitialized structrues.


sdparm-1.04-1.fc12
------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 1.04-1
- 1.04


seamonkey-2.0-6.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Martin Stransky  2.0-6
- Fixed launcher script

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Martin Stransky  2.0-5
- Update to 2.0 RC2

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Martin Stransky  2.0-4
- Update to 2.0 RC1


sec-2.5.2-1.fc12
----------------
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus  - 2.5.2-1
- New upstream release
- SPEC file cleanup
- Init script cleanup
- Removed some examples because of licensing issues. Upstream has clarified
  and changed most of the license tags to GPLv2. Additionally, upstream
  will include the examples in the next release.
- Removed a provide statement since a period was in the name and no other
  package required that special name.


sed-4.2.1-4.fc12
----------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Jiri Moskovcak  4.2.1-4
- added libselinux-devel to buildrequires rhbz#514182
- fixed problem with --excludedocs rhbz#515913

* Tue Aug 11 2009 Ville Skytt?  - 4.2.1-3
- Use bzipped upstream tarball.


setuptool-1.19.9-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Michal Hlavinka  1.19.9-1
- update path of firewall configuration tool (#529794)
- update translations

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Michal Hlavinka  1.19.8-1
- add setup.1 man page
- update translations

* Mon Sep 14 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1.19.7-1
- relase with updated translations


smartmontools-5.38-21.fc12
--------------------------
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:5.38-21
- warn about disabled mail only if capabilities are enabled

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:5.38-19
- make init script lsb compliant (#528016)

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:5.38-20
- fix init script for case when no action was specified

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:5.38-20.1
- fix apostrophes around shell variable

* Mon Oct 05 2009 Michal Hlaivnka  - 1:5.38-17
- make capabilities optional
- fix capabilities for 3ware contollers (#526626)

* Mon Oct 05 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:5.38-18
- bump release for rebuild


snownews-1.5.12-1.fc12
----------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Zing  - 1.5.12-1
- Bug fixes + openssl added as a requirement
- Corrected two crashes when using mark unread and open URL on
  non-existent items.
- Use OpenSSL for MD5 calculations and remove all old MD5 code.
- Fix 64bit digest calc. Readstatus wasn't remembered on 64bit versions.


sparse-0.4.2-1.fc12
-------------------
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Jeff Layton  - 0.4.2
- Update to 0.4.2

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Jeff Layton  - 0.4.2rc1-1
- Update to 0.4.2rc1


springlobby-0.27-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Aurelien Bompard  -  0.27-1
- version 0.27


systemtap-1.0-2.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Josh Stone  - 1.0-2
- Fix three --unprivileged DOS issues (CVE-2009-2911)


tesseract-2.04-1.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Karol Trzcionka  - 2.04-1
- Update to v2.04
- Add static libraries to -devel subpackage


texlive-2007-45.fc12
--------------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Jindrich Novy  2007-45
- make kpathsea not dependent on texlive
- fix lacheck again (#451513)
- fix dvips configuration (#467542)
- update kpathsea description and summary (#519257)
- use upstream patch to fix pool overflow CVE-2009-1284 (#492136)
- don't complain if the pdvipsk hunks touching config.ps don't apply


texlive-texmf-2007-31.fc12
--------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Jindrich Novy  2007-31
- do not conflict with dvipdfm
- update perl requires filter
- update latin.ldf (#469948)
- do not provide any perl dependencies (#516350)


tgif-4.2.1-1.fc12
-----------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 4.2.1-1
- Bug fix release 4.2.1

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 4.2-1
- Update to 4.2
  * Almost all patches/sources/etc in Fedora rpms (actually borrowed
    from Vine Project) were applied upstream
  * Stop to apply 1 left patch for now
  * 1 patch does not apply, check later


tinyproxy-1.6.5-1.fc12
----------------------
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner  - 1.6.5-1
- update to upstream 1.6.5


tokyocabinet-1.4.33-1.fc12
--------------------------
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Deji Akingunola  - 1.4.33-1
- Update to 1.4.33


tucan-0.3.9-0.1.alpha.fc12
--------------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Simon Wesp  - 0.3.9-0.1.alpha
- New upstream release


tzdata-2009o-2.fc12
-------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Petr Machata  - 2009o-2
- San Luis (Argentina) entered DST on October 11 (tzdata-2009o-argentinas.patch)

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Petr Machata  - 2009o-1
- Upstream 2009o
  - Bangladesh won't go back to Standard Time from October 1, 2009
  - Pakistan leaves DST on October 1, 2009
- Dropped tzdata-2009m-karachi.patch
- Argentina does not enter DST on October 18 (tzdata-2009o-argentinas.patch)


uget-1.5.0-1.fc12
-----------------
* Fri Oct 02 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 1.5.0
- 1.5.0


unbound-1.3.4-2.fc12
--------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Paul Wouters  - 1.3.4-2
- Security update to 1.3.4 fixes NSEC3 processing


uncrustify-0.54-1.fc12
----------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Neal Becker  - 0.54-1
- Update to 0.54


unuran-1.4.1-1.fc12
-------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Neal Becker  - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1


urlwatch-1.9-1.fc12
-------------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Fabian Affolter  - 1.9-1
- Added patch for xmpp functionality
- Updated to new upstream version 1.9


valide-0.5.1-0.20.20091019svn425.fc12
-------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Jonathan MERCIER  0.5.1-0.18.20091019svn425
- Update valide to revision 425
- Some bug fix

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Jonathan MERCIER  0.5.1-0.19.20091019svn425
- Bug fix

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Jonathan MERCIER  0.5.1-0.20.20091019svn425
- Bug fix

* Tue Sep 01 2009 Jonathan MERCIER  0.5.1-0.17.20090825svn385
- Update valide to revision 385
- Some bug fix


vhostmd-0.4-0.5.gite9db007b.fc12
--------------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 0.4-0.5.gite9db007b
- New upstream based on git e9db007b.
- Fix segfault in vm-dump-metrics (RHBZ#529348).
- On error, vm-dump-metrics now exits with status code 1.


virt-top-1.0.4-1.fc12.1
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.0.4-1.fc12.1
- New upstream release 1.0.4.
- Includes new translations (RHBZ#493799).
- Overall hardware memory is now displayed in CSV file (RHBZ#521785).
- Several fixes to Japanese support (RHBZ#508197).
- Japanese PO file also has bogus plural forms.
- Additional BR on gettext (for msgfmt).


voms-1.9.14.2-1.fc12
--------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Mattias Ellert  - 1.9.14.2-1
- Upstream 1.9.14.2 (CVS tag glite-security-voms_R_1_9_14_2)


vrq-1.0.62-1.fc12
-----------------
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Shakthi Kannan  - 1.0.62-1
- Updated to upstream package 1.0.62

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Shakthi Kannan  - 1.0.61-1
- Updated to upstream package 1.0.61


wordpress-2.8.5-1.fc12
----------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Adrian Reber  - 2.8.5-1
- updated to 2.8.5 (Hardening Release)


xfce4-panel-4.6.2-1.fc12
------------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 4.6.2-1
- Update to 4.6.2
- Drop explicit requires on Terminal and mousepad


xorg-x11-apps-7.4-8.fc12
------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Peter Hutterer  7.4-8
- xinput 1.5.0
- xwud 1.0.2
- xkill 1.0.2
- xmag 1.0.3

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Adam Jackson  7.4-7
- xeyes 1.0.991

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Adam Jackson  7.4-6
- luit 1.0.4


xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-1.fc12
--------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  0.2.904-1
- openchrome 0.2.904


xorg-x11-font-utils-7.2-10.fc12
-------------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  7.2-10
- mkfontscale 1.0.7
- mkfontdir 1.0.5


xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.4-34.fc12
--------------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  7.4-34
- kbproto 1.0.4
- xf86miscproto 0.9.3
- xproxymanagementprotocol 1.0.3

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Peter Hutterer  7.4-32
- compositeproto 0.4.1
- xf86dgaproto 2.1
- dmxproto 2.3
- inputproto 2.0
- fixesproto 4.1.1
- randrproto 1.3.1
- recordproto 1.14
- xf86vidmodeproto 2.3
- xineramaproto 1.2
- xproto 7.0.16

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Peter Hutterer  7.4-33
- Upload xf86dgaproto 2.1 tarball, this time for real.


xorg-x11-server-utils-7.4-13.fc12
---------------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  7.4-13
- iceauth 1.0.3
- sessreg 1.0.5
- xmodmap 1.0.4
- xrdb 1.0.6


xorg-x11-utils-7.4-7.fc12
-------------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson  7.4-7
- xev 1.0.4
- xlsatoms 1.0.2
- xprop 1.1.0
- xwininfo 1.0.5


xorg-x11-xkb-utils-7.4-6.fc12
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Adam Jackson  7.4-6
- xkbcomp 1.1.1


xournal-0.4.5-1.fc12
--------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Rick L Vinyard Jr  0.4.5-1
- New upstream release
- Removed xournal.xml, xournal.desktop and x-xoj.desktop sources as they are now in upstream source
- Updated gtk2 devel requirements to 2.10
- Added poppler-glib-devel to BR
- Added gettext BR
- Updated summary


yaz-3.0.49-1.fc12
-----------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Guido Grazioli  - 3.0.49-1
- Upstream 3.0.49 (bugfixes and feature enhancements)
- Require pkgconfig for libyaz-devel (guidelines MUST)


youtube-dl-2009.09.13-2.fc12
----------------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Rafa? Psota  - 2009.09.13-2
- Small fix in %prep

* Sun Sep 27 2009 Rafa? Psota  - 2009.09.13-1
- Update to 2009.09.13
- License change to Public Domain


ytree-1.93-1.fc12
-----------------
* Sun Aug 30 2009 Minto Joseph  - 1.93-1
- Rebased to 1.93


yum-cron-0.9.1-1.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Alec Habig  - 0.9.1-1
- Fixed CLEANDAY default in script
- changed the /etc/yum/ scripts to not be marked as a config file in
  the .spec - we always want them updated, they're code not config.  
  rpmlint used to complain about them not being marked as config files,
  but seems to have grown out of this weirdness in the meantime .

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Alec Habig  - 0.9.0-1
- Change cron file to 0yum.cron, so yum updates things before the other daily jobs
  such as makewhatis, prelink, updatedb, etc run.  That way updated files get picked up
  properly.  Cost - those jobs will run later.  Resolves bug 445894.  Changed default
  random delay to 60 minutes from 120 to reduce the cost.
- Eliminate the weekly package cleaning script.  Replace with logic in the daily script 
  to clean the packages and the metadata once per week (otherwise corrupted metadata messes 
  things up indefinitely).  Resolves bug 526452.  Removal of seperate weekly script resolves
  bug 524461. 
- Use find to clear stale locks at start of run, so add findutils req.


yumex-2.9.3-1.fc12
------------------
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Tim Lauridsen  - 2.9.2-1
- bumped version to 2.9.2-1


zyx-liveinstaller-0.1.14-1.fc12
-------------------------------
* Sun Oct 18 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 0.1.14-1
- update to new upstream release
- adjust source url

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 0.1.13-1
- update to new upstream release


Summary:
Added Packages: 81
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 214



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu Oct 22 13:57:49 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:57:49 -0400
Subject: F-12 Beta Blocker Meeting 2009-10-21 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT) - Recap
In-Reply-To: <1256082150.2148.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1256082150.2148.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256219869.2398.70.camel@localhost.localdomain>

====================================================
#fedora-bugzappers: F-12-Blocker bug review (part#1)
====================================================


Meeting started by jlaska at 15:01:09 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2009-10-21/fedora-bugzappers.2009-10-21-15.01.log.html
.

Meeting summary
---------------
* gathering  (jlaska, 15:01:27)
  * Walking through a sorted by-component list of F12Blocker bugs --
    http://tinyurl.com/yk9wehr  (jlaska, 15:05:14)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514000  (jlaska, 15:07:53)
  * AGREED: Reported problem in 514000 is now resolved.  This can be
    remove from blocker list.  Any other issues should be filed as new
    bugs  (jlaska, 15:13:53)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529225  (jlaska, 15:14:07)
  * HELP: Can smolt provide a list of systems when searching by
    sybsystem PCI ID's (i.e. 17aa:20f2)  (jlaska, 15:20:47)
  * AGREED: 529225 needs triage or devel review before we can add as a
    F12Blocker  (jlaska, 15:21:16)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466377  (jlaska, 15:21:48)
  * possibly further isolate the segfault to obtain a backtrace
    (jlaska, 15:27:29)
  * needs clarification as to whether the boot volume is low ... or
    sound doesn't work at all  (jlaska, 15:29:08)
  * AGREED: 466377 not a blocker bug  (jlaska, 15:29:51)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523768  (jlaska, 15:29:57)
  * no indications that this affects a *lot* of users  (jlaska,
    15:33:03)
  * AGREED: remove 523768 from the blocker list  (jlaska, 15:33:20)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493058  (jlaska, 15:33:52)
  * AGREED: keep 493058 on the blocker list  (jlaska, 15:38:05)
  * AGREED: move 493058 back to ASSIGNED and request retesting against
    Beta  (jlaska, 15:38:16)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503149  (jlaska, 15:38:36)
  * AGREED: 503149 not a release blocker ... workaround exists  (jlaska,
    15:40:26)
  * workaround noted in
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503149#c11  (jlaska,
    15:40:42)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506013  (jlaska, 15:40:55)
  * AGREED: 506013 remains on the blocker list.  (jlaska, 15:46:07)
  * AGREED: 506013 patches are included in F-12-Beta ... needs retesting
    (jlaska, 15:46:17)
  * if Connor's issue remains, it will be filed as a new bug  (jlaska,
    15:46:37)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=515441  (jlaska, 15:46:45)
  * triggered by providing incorrect NFS server:/path, and attempting to
    recover  (jlaska, 15:50:06)
  * AGREED: 515441 remains on the blocker list.  Needs retesting to
    confirm problem is resolved.  (jlaska, 15:51:03)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517260  (jlaska, 15:51:10)
  * this is specific to any USB live install's where the USB stick has
    more than 1 partition  (jlaska, 15:52:12)
  * AGREED: 517260 remains on the list.  Verification of fix against
    anaconda-12.39 needed.  (jlaska, 15:53:21)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517491  (jlaska, 15:53:28)
  * Current shrink test case -
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_(shrink)_install
    (jlaska, 15:58:20)
  * AGREED: 517491 remains on the list.  Awaiting additional
    clarification as to whether reported failure match the assessment of
    the problem.  (jlaska, 16:00:48)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524168  (jlaska, 16:00:53)
  * AGREED: 524168 remains on the list ... awaiting verification from
    reporter  (jlaska, 16:04:26)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525924  (jlaska, 16:04:43)
  * Liam tested this issue overnight and confirmed that the reported
    problem is fixed  (jlaska, 16:06:00)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526549  (jlaska, 16:06:52)
  * AGREED: 526549 remains on the list ... awaiting retest and a patch
    against autoqa/rats_install.py  (jlaska, 16:09:53)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526697  (jlaska, 16:10:11)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.laska.org/   (adamw, 16:12:42)
  * AGREED: 526697 makes edits on existing partitions really unpleasant
    ... remains on the blocker list, awaiting retesting by jlaska
    (jlaska, 16:13:38)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526699  (jlaska, 16:14:52)
  * AGREED: 526699 remains on the blocker list ... additional patch
    work/review in progress on anaconda-devel-list  (jlaska, 16:18:34)
  * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/yk9wehr   (cwickert, 16:21:05)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527258  (adamw, 16:21:27)
  * ACTION: jlaska needs to retest several bugs  (jlaska, 16:22:26)
  * AGREED: 527258 stays as blocker, needs retesting from jlaska
    (adamw, 16:24:03)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527520  (adamw, 16:24:14)
  * having one of our official spins boot to text mode on a default
    install is Not Good :)  (jlaska, 16:25:42)
  * AGREED: 527520 is a blocker and fix should be tagged into F12
    (adamw, 16:29:49)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527952  (adamw, 16:30:00)
  * AGREED: 527952 stays a blocker, fix confirmation testing requested
    from reporter  (adamw, 16:33:36)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528317  (adamw, 16:33:39)
  * ACTION: adamw to test impact of 528317 to see whether it should be a
    blocker  (adamw, 16:42:00)
  * ACTION: chris campbell will also test  (adamw, 16:43:25)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528537  (adamw, 16:43:58)
  * AGREED: 528537 stays as a blocker, re-assign to appropriate
    component (kernel)  (adamw, 16:48:53)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530015  (adamw, 16:50:31)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528909  (adamw, 16:55:44)
  * AGREED: 530015 stayed as blocker, jforbes to fix  (adamw, 16:56:10)
  * AGREED: 528909 stays as blocker, no action needed at present time
    (adamw, 16:58:43)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=480593  (adamw, 16:58:56)
  * AGREED: 480593 is an f11 tracker bug, closing  (adamw, 17:00:59)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498968  (adamw, 17:01:11)
  * AGREED: 498968 is f12 virt tracker bug, no need to talk about it
    itself  (adamw, 17:01:47)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505562  (adamw, 17:01:54)
  * AGREED: 505562 can be closed, the fixed dmraid package is already
    tagged into final  (adamw, 17:05:21)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528097  (adamw, 17:06:27)
  * AGREED: 528097 stays on the list, fixed dmraid has been tagged into
    stable, need confirmation from reporter  (adamw, 17:08:40)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522969  (adamw, 17:10:08)
  * LINK: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=137342 is
    the build that fixes it  (adamw, 17:13:08)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2547 is a tag request
    (adamw, 17:13:49)
  * AGREED: 522969 has been fixed and tagged, bug closed  (adamw,
    17:16:43)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528038  (adamw, 17:16:43)
  * AGREED: 528038 is not important enough to block release, dropped to
    f12targert  (adamw, 17:19:19)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512944  (adamw, 17:19:40)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493492   (adamw,
    17:27:51)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522182   (adamw,
    17:28:10)
  * LINK:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_id=527520%2C498156%2C529209%2C517879%2C526699%2C506013%2C513864%2C529794%2C524168%2C509733%2C516057%2C523110%2C517491%2C514600%2C523768%2C520480%2C517839%2C522137%2C525924%2C520162%2C519766%2C528097%2C526697%2C519442%2C515441%2C506075%2C528005%2C528312%2C526154%2C520750%2C514000%2C521512%2C526836%2C522187%2C518962%2C527920%2C530015%2C493472%2C529363%2C518623%2C527426%2C498968%2C528038%2C527952%2C523270%2C
    (adamw, 17:39:37)
  * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/yk9wehr :)  (adamw, 17:40:08)

Meeting ended at 21:09:09 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* jlaska needs to retest several bugs
* adamw to test impact of 528317 to see whether it should be a blocker
* chris campbell will also test




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
  * adamw to test impact of 528317 to see whether it should be a blocker
* jlaska
  * jlaska needs to retest several bugs
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * chris campbell will also test




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From birger at birger.sh  Thu Oct 22 14:01:41 2009
From: birger at birger.sh (Birger Wathne)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:01:41 +0200
Subject: F12 beta live installs
Message-ID: <1256220101.4ae065c51ef63@secure.prioris.net>


I have tested a few installs on my idle test PC.

Overall, a nice new release with exciting news and a few blockers. 
Beautiful theme (as always).


Fedora 12 x86_64 live CD

Comes up nicely with 1920x1200 resolution using nouveau driver.
I must have pressed enter to wake up the display, as I found myself logged 
in without selecting keyboard layout. The default was USA layout. Easy 
enough to correct.
Installed to hard drive
Installed on entire drives
Selected Review and modify
Deleted all lvm stuff, built a raid1 device for /home and rebuilt the lvm vg
for swap and /
Creating filesystems took a long time. I would prefer to answer all
questions first so I could leave the PC.
The reboot button on the last screen didn't reboot. Just terminated the 
installer.
Rebooted and left.
When I came back the CD tray was ejected and the screen black. Nothing 
would wake the screen, so I removed the CD and forcefully rebooted. See the 
i686 install below for more info.
Booted nicely, went through firstboot, setting up my local NTP servers, etc.
Set up a local user.
Logged in, and the default keyboard was still USA...
Logged out and selected correct keyboard at login.
Still USA layout after login!
Went to system->preferences->Keyboard. USA was the only layout listed. 
Added Norwegian and removed USA.
Logged out and selected my user. The keyboard selector at the login screen 
still says USA. Ignored it and entered my password.
Got correct keyboard layout.
Login screen keyboard layout selector seems to not work at all. Keyboard 
selection at install doesn't have any effect on the default after install.
No 'desktop effects'. Hope nouveau gets there soon...
Did a yum update and rebooted. Got the superblock in the future error. Yes, 
I am east of Greenwich. A lot of us are. Make it part of your testing of 
all packages, please. The evolution-mapi connector is full of such time 
zone errors as well. I didn't work around this issue, as I was ready to 
reinstall.



Fedora 12 i686 live CD

This time I selected Norwegian layout while logging into the live session. 
This actually worked.
Installed just like the x86_64 install above. This time I was present while 
the system supposedly rebooted. After I typed reboot, the screen went 
black, the tray ejected, and then nothing. The system never rebooted. I 
assume this was the same with the x86_64 install.
Everything proceeded just like the x86_64 install. They seemed completely 
bug-compatible, including the keyboard layout selector at login not doing 
much good.
upgraded and rebooted to verify that the file system got updated in the 
future. It didn't! The system actually rebooted, but NetworkManager failed 
during login. Couldn't find some required resource. The network is up and 
running, but no icon.


If this kind of report is interesting, I was planning to do a basic install 
tomorrow from the x86_64 DVD, and then a network install. Just testing the 
basic installation. I have not been asked to submit smolt profiles during 
these installs from the live cd's. I'll do so tomorrow.

-- 
birger



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Thu Oct 22 14:05:51 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:05:51 +0800
Subject: first experience with f12 beta
In-Reply-To: <4AE03777.2010203@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>	<4ADFBA3A.6060006@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<4AE03777.2010203@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4AE066BF.6020607@herakles.homelinux.org>

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/22/2009 07:19 AM, John Summerfield wrote:
>> Oh, over-zealous security nazis.[1] Easily defeated. Boot with the option
>> init=/bin/bash
>>
>> It gets you a shell (bash) and, with any luck, initrd has found your
>> disks so you can run fsck on everything.
>>
>> 1 So described because, alone, the effort is so futile. Give me physical
>> access, I own the system. Unless you use encryption.
> 
> Encryption is not as full proof as you imagine.
> 
> http://www.bress.net/blog/archives/162-Security-is-a-multilayered-problem.html

Sounds like stoned...

Even so, it's quite a bit more difficult.

Use BIOS passwords, grub passwords and all anyone needs to do is pop the 
disk into another computer,that's why I said "physical access."

I suppose that if I created a live Fedora disk with some attractive 
features, there's a good chance some here would be foolish enough to 
download it and run it, but I had in mind any computer, not just those 
with gullible owners.




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From ebenes at redhat.com  Thu Oct 22 14:10:51 2009
From: ebenes at redhat.com (Eduard Benes)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:10:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fedora Test Day Summary - Confined Users
In-Reply-To: <1581075305.1084411256220577018.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1597275399.1084641256220651432.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

Greetings!

This Tuesday was the "Confined Users" Test Day / Fit&Finish [1] (TD/F&F).
Though we expected higher attendance, the results are really valuable.
The most valuable outcome of a test day could be a fact that we should 
bring more attention/people to using/testing SELinux policy and related
tools.

Thanks to all who participated and helped with the organization, 
especially to Dan Walsh who promptly started to resolve reported bugs 
and already fixed some important issues.

Following bugs were reported during the TD/F&F by the participants:

ID  	 Summary
529873 	Openswan/pluto - AVC denials when starting the ipsec service
529870 	SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "getattr" access on /home/jlaska/.gvfs.
529871 	SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python "connectto" access on /var/run/nscd/socket.
529758 	SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/sendmail.sendmail "module_request" access.
529803 	Your system may be seriously compromised! /usr/sbin/nscd attempted to mmap low kernel memory.
529606 	SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/modem-manager "read write" access to device noz0.
529738 	SELinux is preventing /lib64/dbus-1/dbus-daemon-launch-helper "execute" access on /usr/sbin/abrtd.
529827 	guest_u user not able to run ps
529830 	SELinux failed to limit the authority of execute of user_u
529903 	SELinux is preventing bash "create" access.
529911 	SELinux is preventing nautilus "read write" access on sr0.
529916 	AVCs with confined "mailuser" sending e-mail
529933 	SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/abrtd "setattr" access on .abrt.
529934 	SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/abrtd "write" access on /root.
529951 	SELinux is preventing the /bin/loadkeys from using potentially mislabeled files (Documents).
529953 	hp cups selinux denial
529961 	SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/abrtd "read" access on Bugzilla.conf. 

Have a nice day, 

/Eduard 


[1] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-20
[2] - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/selinux-user-guide/f10/en-US/sect-Security-Enhanced_Linux-Targeted_Policy-Confined_and_Unconfined_Users.html
[3] - http://magazine.redhat.com/2008/07/02/writing-policy-for-confined-selinux-users/



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Thu Oct 22 14:33:17 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:33:17 +0800
Subject: yum
Message-ID: <4AE06D2D.2030406@herakles.homelinux.org>

I have been thinking, and not everyone thinks that's a good thing to do.

What I have been thinking is about something Debian does better.

apt-get and (presumably) other tools such as aptitude have a list of 
critical packages, or maybe critical packages are so marked in the 
package header.

One cannot easily remove those packages accidentally.

In our context, those packages would include the kernel, glibc, rpm. 
Maybe the yum group would not be critical, because a system can be 
maintained without it - many of use used to get along without it.

Python might not be marked as critical, rpm requires it and so would 
prevent its accidental removal.

I see two ways of flagging packages that are essential, one a list in a 
configuration file, the other a mark or priority field in the rpm metadata.

The list would require careful review for each release, including 
version upgrades in RHEL, probably more often in Fedora. On the other 
hand, it could be implemented pretty much immediately, and maybe seeded 
with the minimum set of installed packages.

Marking the packages would require changes to rpm (which, I think, has 
its own release schedule and its own bureaucracy) including a new 
keyword in the spec file, and would only take effect when all packages 
are rebuilt - F13 and RHEL6 at the earliest. On the other hand, it would 
  likely be easier to maintain once done.

For packages builders, I suggest anything that installs into /bin, 
/sbin, /lib{,64} is probably critical, anything that does not probably 
is not critical.

The question arose in my mind when I tried to remove some package, I 
don't recall what it was now, but yum wanted to remove rpm as well.

The change that I suggest is that, if a critical package is to be 
removed, yum does not do it without asking even i '-y' is specified. I 
suggest one or both of these:
Ask, do so if confirmed and stdin is a tty.
Do so if "--force" is specified.

If stdin is not a tty, don't ask, but do it if "--force" so that it can 
still be scripted.



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From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 22 14:35:04 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:35:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: yum
In-Reply-To: <4AE06D2D.2030406@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <4AE06D2D.2030406@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: 



On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, John Summerfield wrote:

> I have been thinking, and not everyone thinks that's a good thing to do.
>
> What I have been thinking is about something Debian does better.
>
> apt-get and (presumably) other tools such as aptitude have a list of critical 
> packages, or maybe critical packages are so marked in the package header.
>
> One cannot easily remove those packages accidentally.
>
> In our context, those packages would include the kernel, glibc, rpm. Maybe 
> the yum group would not be critical, because a system can be maintained 
> without it - many of use used to get along without it.
>
> Python might not be marked as critical, rpm requires it and so would prevent 
> its accidental removal.
>
> I see two ways of flagging packages that are essential, one a list in a 
> configuration file, the other a mark or priority field in the rpm metadata.
>
> The list would require careful review for each release, including version 
> upgrades in RHEL, probably more often in Fedora. On the other hand, it could 
> be implemented pretty much immediately, and maybe seeded with the minimum set 
> of installed packages.
>
> Marking the packages would require changes to rpm (which, I think, has its 
> own release schedule and its own bureaucracy) including a new keyword in the 
> spec file, and would only take effect when all packages are rebuilt - F13 and 
> RHEL6 at the earliest. On the other hand, it would  likely be easier to 
> maintain once done.
>
> For packages builders, I suggest anything that installs into /bin, /sbin, 
> /lib{,64} is probably critical, anything that does not probably is not 
> critical.
>
> The question arose in my mind when I tried to remove some package, I don't 
> recall what it was now, but yum wanted to remove rpm as well.
>
> The change that I suggest is that, if a critical package is to be removed, 
> yum does not do it without asking even i '-y' is specified. I suggest one or 
> both of these:
> Ask, do so if confirmed and stdin is a tty.
> Do so if "--force" is specified.
>
> If stdin is not a tty, don't ask, but do it if "--force" so that it can still 
> be scripted.
>

yum has the protect-packages plugin.

It does more or less what you mention above.

-sv



From alsadi at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 14:52:30 2009
From: alsadi at gmail.com (Muayyad AlSadi)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:52:30 +0300
Subject: yum
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4AE06D2D.2030406@herakles.homelinux.org>
	
Message-ID: <385866f0910220752o4f8a399fsbae4c05f4bbbef96@mail.gmail.com>

> The question arose in my mind when I tried to remove some package, I don't recall what it was now, but yum wanted to remove rpm as well.

make sure you don't have remove with leaves enabled
or at least make sure it's configured to deal with libs

> Python might not be marked as critical, rpm requires it and so would prevent its accidental removal.

are you sure ? cuz rpm says other wise

[alsadi at pc1 Thawab]$ rpm -qR rpm | grep -i python || echo "no python"
no python



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Thu Oct 22 15:01:32 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:01:32 +0800
Subject: yum
In-Reply-To: <385866f0910220752o4f8a399fsbae4c05f4bbbef96@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AE06D2D.2030406@herakles.homelinux.org>	
	<385866f0910220752o4f8a399fsbae4c05f4bbbef96@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE073CC.4060100@herakles.homelinux.org>

Muayyad AlSadi wrote:
>> The question arose in my mind when I tried to remove some package, I don't recall what it was now, but yum wanted to remove rpm as well.
> 
> make sure you don't have remove with leaves enabled
> or at least make sure it's configured to deal with libs

I don't understand what you're saying there, but if yum queries the 
user's intentions when any critical package is being removed, I don't 
see there would be a problem.

> 
>> Python might not be marked as critical, rpm requires it and so would prevent its accidental removal.
> 
> are you sure ? cuz rpm says other wise
> 
> [alsadi at pc1 Thawab]$ rpm -qR rpm | grep -i python || echo "no python"
> no python
> 
I don't have a usable Fedora any more, so I couldn't check. If rpm 
doesn't require python, no matter, it can be removed.

rpm-build requires perl, so if rpm-build were critical then perl would 
inherit the attribute.

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From joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de  Thu Oct 22 15:06:08 2009
From: joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de (Joachim Backes)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:06:08 +0200
Subject: F12 Beta issues
Message-ID: <4AE074E0.1050403@rhrk.uni-kl.de>

1. Trying to install F12 Beta from an external USB drive stops (did not 
find an install image). On the other hand, installing from an internal 
IDE DVD device proceeds.

2. Anaconda crashes after having installed some (or all?) packages.
A traceback is generated: (Remark: I tried to re-install after the first 
installation had crashed, so the  packages were already installed, but 
the error message was the same when installing for the first time).

anaconda 12.37 exception report
Traceback (most recent call first):
   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/users.py", line 201, in setRootPassword
     self.admin.setpassUser(rootUser, cryptPassword(password, 
algo=algo), True)
   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/instdata.py", line 171, in write
     algo=self.getPassAlgo())
   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/backend.py", line 305, in writeConfiguration
     anaconda.id.write()
   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 200, in moveStep
     rc = stepFunc(self.anaconda)
   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 123, in gotoNext
     self.moveStep()
   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1195, in nextClicked
     self.anaconda.dispatch.gotoNext()
   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/iw/progress_gui.py", line 79, in renderCallback
     self.intf.icw.nextClicked()
   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1216, in handleRenderCallback
     self.currentWindow.renderCallback()
TypeError: argument 1 must be Entity, not None

The whole traceback has been attached. Somebody has similar problems?

Regards
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From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Thu Oct 22 15:17:53 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:17:53 +0800
Subject: yum
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4AE06D2D.2030406@herakles.homelinux.org>
	
Message-ID: <4AE077A1.3050203@herakles.homelinux.org>

Seth Vidal wrote:
>

>> If stdin is not a tty, don't ask, but do it if "--force" so that it 
>> can still be scripted.
>>
> 
> yum has the protect-packages plugin.
> 
> It does more or less what you mention above.

It's not installed on my RHEL-clone system. I don't have a useful Fedora 
  system at present, so I can't check that.

Unless yum-protect-packages is part of the standard set of installed 
packages, it's not going to be very effective.

I see a lot of yum plugins listed but uninstalled, I don't know what 
most of them do. Perhaps more of them should be installed as part of the 
  base installation, and users directed to configure them.

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From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 22 15:24:36 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:24:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: yum
In-Reply-To: <4AE077A1.3050203@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <4AE06D2D.2030406@herakles.homelinux.org>
	
	<4AE077A1.3050203@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: 



On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, John Summerfield wrote:

> Seth Vidal wrote:
>> 
>
>>> If stdin is not a tty, don't ask, but do it if "--force" so that it can 
>>> still be scripted.
>>> 
>> 
>> yum has the protect-packages plugin.
>> 
>> It does more or less what you mention above.
>
> It's not installed on my RHEL-clone system. I don't have a useful Fedora 
> system at present, so I can't check that.
>
> Unless yum-protect-packages is part of the standard set of installed 
> packages, it's not going to be very effective.
>
> I see a lot of yum plugins listed but uninstalled, I don't know what most of 
> them do. Perhaps more of them should be installed as part of the  base 
> installation, and users directed to configure them.

If you install the protect-packages plugin with base it plays hell with 
things like mock and chroot construction - which is part of the reason it 
is not installed in base. We can work around it - but we've not had much 
demand for it.

And considering the lack of detail here I don't see that demand increasing 
overly much.

If you wish to have this protection then you can install it. It's pretty 
simple.

If you want to know more about what the plugins do I would recommend the 
'info' command to yum.

for example:
$ yum info yum-plugin-protect-packages
Name       : yum-plugin-protect-packages
Arch       : noarch
Version    : 1.1.23
Release    : 1.fc11
Size       : 12 k
Repo       : updates
Summary    : Yum plugin to prevents Yum from removing itself and other 
protected
            : packages
URL        : http://yum.baseurl.org/download/yum-utils/
License    : GPLv2+
Description: this plugin prevents Yum from removing itself and other 
protected
            : packages. By default, yum is the only package protected, but 
by
            : extension this automatically protects everything on which yum
            : depends (rpm, python, glibc, and so on).Therefore, the plugin
            : functions well even without compiling careful lists of all
            : important packages.




-sv



From kvolny at redhat.com  Thu Oct 22 15:32:20 2009
From: kvolny at redhat.com (Karel =?utf-8?q?Voln=C3=BD?=)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:32:20 +0200
Subject: checksum/disk theories?
In-Reply-To: <4ADFB911.2080207@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <20091020194413.2a301671@zooty>
	<200910211735.28315.kvolny@redhat.com>
	<4ADFB911.2080207@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <200910221732.25636.kvolny@redhat.com>

On Thursday 22 of October 2009 03:44:49 John Summerfield wrote:
> Karel Voln wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 of October 2009 01:44:13 Tom Horsley wrote:
> >> I have the f12 Beta dvd images run through "split -b 1G" on
> >> a vfat usb stick. For both the i36 and the x86_64 images
> >> when I do something like this:
> >>
> >> cat Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.isoa* >
> >>  ~/Fedora-12-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
> >>
> >> The sha256sum -c fails on the resulting file :-(. (The
> >>  checksums checked OK on the original files I downloaded).
> >
> > something like that happened to me too ...
> >
> > I needed to copy a really huge file via ssh over slow
> > Internet connection, that got disconnected from time to time
> 
> I expect that if you can use ssh, you can also use rsync. With
>  suitable options (and they are legion), rsync will happily
>  resume and, if you exercise some skill, repair large files.

don't know ... can it run over ssh tunnel?

oh forget the question (I can RTFM anyway) ... I've resolved the 
issue in another way

I just wanted to share the story so that Tom knows he's not alone 
with such a problem and he does not need to suspect his hardware 
but rather split

> Don't use checksum on a public server you don't own, I was
>  discussing this with Jason from planetmirror one time and
>  apparently it can kill the server.

also good to know ;-) 

K.
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From alsadi at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 15:58:26 2009
From: alsadi at gmail.com (Muayyad AlSadi)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:58:26 +0300
Subject: yum
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4AE06D2D.2030406@herakles.homelinux.org>
	
	<4AE077A1.3050203@herakles.homelinux.org>
	
Message-ID: <385866f0910220858w71d1bc98sfd24aa286c3499b2@mail.gmail.com>

> I don't understand what you're saying there, but if yum queries the user's intentions when any critical package is being removed, I don't see there would be a problem.

if you got a remove-with-leaves plugin installed then unneeded leaf
packages will be uninstalled automatically check the plugins you have
in

ls /usr/lib/yum-plugins/

[alsadi at pc1 Thawab]$ yum -C list '*leaves*'
Available Packages
yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves.noarch

[alsadi at pc1 Thawab]$ yum -C info yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves

if you don't know the config files ask rpm with
rpm -qc yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves

so if you don't have such remove with leaves plugin, then you got a
different problem and it's not the reason why yum offered you to
remove rpm.

-------------------------
> I don't have a usable Fedora any more, so I couldn't check. If rpm doesn't require python, no matter, it can be removed.
> rpm-build requires perl, so if rpm-build were critical then perl would inherit the attribute.

is there an RHEL clone which does not contain rpm ?
there is a proverb which says "those who don't have can't give"
which means that in order to submit suggestions to yum you should use it first.

BTW: rpmbuild is not critical, because not all users want to build rpm packages.

in yum world there is a concept of groups (defined in comps file)
among the groups there is a group called core which is defined to be
the Smallest possible installation
another group is admin-tools ..etc.
so we know what are the critical packages, but different installations
got different selections
for example to some people "core" is not sufficient, they need "base",
other needs even more like "base-x" ..etc.

> I see a lot of yum plugins listed but uninstalled, I don't know what most of them do. Perhaps more of them should be installed as part of the  base installation, and users directed to configure them.

yum info is your friend.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 22 17:17:32 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:32 -0700
Subject: first experience with f12 beta
In-Reply-To: <4AE03777.2010203@fedoraproject.org>
References: <4ADF2D22.1090402@kymp.net>
	<4ADFBA3A.6060006@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<4AE03777.2010203@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1256231852.2314.458.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 16:14 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/22/2009 07:19 AM, John Summerfield wrote:
> > Oh, over-zealous security nazis.[1] Easily defeated. Boot with the option
> > init=/bin/bash
> > 
> > It gets you a shell (bash) and, with any luck, initrd has found your
> > disks so you can run fsck on everything.
> > 
> > 1 So described because, alone, the effort is so futile. Give me physical
> > access, I own the system. Unless you use encryption.
> 
> Encryption is not as full proof as you imagine.
> 
> http://www.bress.net/blog/archives/162-Security-is-a-multilayered-problem.html

The title of that post also handily illustrates why it makes sense for
Fedora to implement the layers of security it can, even when they don't
make anything any more secure *on their own*. For sysadmins who take the
time to lock everything else down properly themselves, the recovery
console could indeed be a vulnerable path if we didn't lock it down in
Fedora.

-- 
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 22 18:28:30 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:28:30 -0700
Subject: F12 beta live installs
In-Reply-To: <1256220101.4ae065c51ef63@secure.prioris.net>
References: <1256220101.4ae065c51ef63@secure.prioris.net>
Message-ID: <1256236110.2314.463.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 16:01 +0200, Birger Wathne wrote:
> I have tested a few installs on my idle test PC.
> 
> Overall, a nice new release with exciting news and a few blockers. 
> Beautiful theme (as always).
> 
> 
> Fedora 12 x86_64 live CD
> 
> Comes up nicely with 1920x1200 resolution using nouveau driver.
> I must have pressed enter to wake up the display, as I found myself logged 
> in without selecting keyboard layout. The default was USA layout. Easy 
> enough to correct.

There's a time-out on the login - if you leave it sitting at GDM long
enough, it just logs itself in with default options.

> Installed to hard drive
> Installed on entire drives
> Selected Review and modify
> Deleted all lvm stuff, built a raid1 device for /home and rebuilt the lvm vg
> for swap and /
> Creating filesystems took a long time. I would prefer to answer all
> questions first so I could leave the PC.
> The reboot button on the last screen didn't reboot. Just terminated the 
> installer.
> Rebooted and left.
> When I came back the CD tray was ejected and the screen black. Nothing 
> would wake the screen, so I removed the CD and forcefully rebooted. See the 
> i686 install below for more info.
> Booted nicely, went through firstboot, setting up my local NTP servers, etc.
> Set up a local user.
> Logged in, and the default keyboard was still USA...
> Logged out and selected correct keyboard at login.
> Still USA layout after login!
> Went to system->preferences->Keyboard. USA was the only layout listed. 
> Added Norwegian and removed USA.
> Logged out and selected my user. The keyboard selector at the login screen 
> still says USA. Ignored it and entered my password.
> Got correct keyboard layout.
> Login screen keyboard layout selector seems to not work at all. Keyboard 
> selection at install doesn't have any effect on the default after install.

I believe it's only meant to set the keyboard layout *for GDM* (if you
set your username and password with, oh, a Russian keyboard layout,
trying to enter them with an English one is unlikely to work
spectacularly well :>). I could be wrong here, though.

> No 'desktop effects'. Hope nouveau gets there soon...

3D is Hard, unfortunately. Especially when you have to reverse-engineer
everything (there's no specs for NVIDIA hardware). We are getting there,
though. Ben has somewhat-working compiz with a few artifacts on a few
NVIDIA chipsets, at this point in time. Give it a year or so, is my
guess, depending on your chipset.

> Did a yum update and rebooted. Got the superblock in the future error. Yes, 
> I am east of Greenwich. A lot of us are. Make it part of your testing of 
> all packages, please. The evolution-mapi connector is full of such time 
> zone errors as well. I didn't work around this issue, as I was ready to 
> reinstall.

It's been fixed already.

> upgraded and rebooted to verify that the file system got updated in the 
> future. It didn't! 

See above :)

> The system actually rebooted, but NetworkManager failed 
> during login. Couldn't find some required resource. The network is up and 
> running, but no icon.

Also known and fixed already, as long as you have NetworkManager and
NetworkManager-gnome 0.7.996-5.git20091021.fc12 or higher you won't see
this again.

> If this kind of report is interesting, I was planning to do a basic install 
> tomorrow from the x86_64 DVD, and then a network install. Just testing the 
> basic installation. I have not been asked to submit smolt profiles during 
> these installs from the live cd's. I'll do so tomorrow.

Certainly! Thanks a lot.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 22 18:34:13 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:34:13 -0700
Subject: F12 Beta issues
In-Reply-To: <4AE074E0.1050403@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
References: <4AE074E0.1050403@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
Message-ID: <1256236453.2314.466.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 17:06 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote:
> 1. Trying to install F12 Beta from an external USB drive stops (did not 
> find an install image). On the other hand, installing from an internal 
> IDE DVD device proceeds.

How did you create the USB stick, exactly?

> 2. Anaconda crashes after having installed some (or all?) packages.
> A traceback is generated: (Remark: I tried to re-install after the first 
> installation had crashed, so the  packages were already installed, but 
> the error message was the same when installing for the first time).
> 
> anaconda 12.37 exception report
> Traceback (most recent call first):
>    File "/usr/lib/anaconda/users.py", line 201, in setRootPassword
>      self.admin.setpassUser(rootUser, cryptPassword(password, 
> algo=algo), True)
>    File "/usr/lib/anaconda/instdata.py", line 171, in write
>      algo=self.getPassAlgo())
>    File "/usr/lib/anaconda/backend.py", line 305, in writeConfiguration
>      anaconda.id.write()
>    File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 200, in moveStep
>      rc = stepFunc(self.anaconda)
>    File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 123, in gotoNext
>      self.moveStep()
>    File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1195, in nextClicked
>      self.anaconda.dispatch.gotoNext()
>    File "/usr/lib/anaconda/iw/progress_gui.py", line 79, in renderCallback
>      self.intf.icw.nextClicked()
>    File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1216, in handleRenderCallback
>      self.currentWindow.renderCallback()
> TypeError: argument 1 must be Entity, not None
> 
> The whole traceback has been attached. Somebody has similar problems?

>From a quick look in Bugzilla I can't see anything. Since it seems to be
crashing in setRootPassword , perhaps it's something to do with the
actual root password you chose? Try a different one and see if that
changes it?

In any case, please report this to Bugzilla! Thanks.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From gene at czarc.net  Thu Oct 22 18:45:16 2009
From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:45:16 -0400
Subject: long standing aggravation
In-Reply-To: <20091021175036.620c83fc@zooty>
References: <200910211724.52927.gene@czarc.net> <20091021175036.620c83fc@zooty>
Message-ID: <200910221445.16795.gene@czarc.net>

On Wednesday 21 October 2009 17:50:36 Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:24:52 -0400
> 
> Gene Czarcinski wrote:
> > Can someone explain how anaconda figures out boot/disk order and is there
> > some guarantee that the algorithm will not change between Fedora
> > releases?
> 
> I can't answer any of your other questions, but because I have watched
> it over many releases, I can guarantee that the disk order is
> randomly changed in just about every release :-(.
> 

Yes, I noticed.

I really do not understand the problem with anaconda.

I did a "quick" test: bootup the distribution DVD in rescue mode for Fedora 8, 
Fedora 9, Fedora 11, and Fedora 12-Beta.  After bootup do:
     cat  /proc/scsi/scsi

On Fedora 8 and Fedora 9, the DVD drive was the first listed (scsi0) whereas on 
Fedora 11 and Fedora 12-Beta the DVD drive was the last listed (scsi4).

For the three disk drives, they were in the same order as shown by the BIOS -- 
1.5TB disk first followed by the 1.0 TB disks.  The important thing is that the 
order was identical in all cases.

So, if /proc/scsi/scsi can be created correctly, why can't anaconda do it?



From birger at birger.sh  Thu Oct 22 19:00:36 2009
From: birger at birger.sh (Birger Wathne)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:00:36 +0200
Subject: F12 beta live installs
In-Reply-To: <1256236110.2314.463.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256220101.4ae065c51ef63@secure.prioris.net>
	<1256236110.2314.463.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1256238036.4ae0abd40c54f@secure.prioris.net>

Sitat Adam Williamson :
> I believe it's only meant to set the keyboard layout *for GDM* (if you
> set your username and password with, oh, a Russian keyboard layout,
> trying to enter them with an English one is unlikely to work
> spectacularly well :>). I could be wrong here, though.

You would quickly run into the same problem with a Norwegian keyboard if
your password contained anyting outside a-z0-9.

>From a user perspective I would expect that the keyboard I selected during
install also was the default at the login screen (Isn't it a valid
assumption for a desktop OS that the keyboard used during install will be
permanently attached), and what I used to log in would be the default for
that session. Wouldn't that be far more user friendly?

> > No 'desktop effects'. Hope nouveau gets there soon...
> 
> 3D is Hard, unfortunately. Especially when you have to reverse-engineer
> everything (there's no specs for NVIDIA hardware). We are getting there,
> though. Ben has somewhat-working compiz with a few artifacts on a few
> NVIDIA chipsets, at this point in time. Give it a year or so, is my
> guess, depending on your chipset.

It must be a wonderful challenge... It would have been very fun to have the
spare time for that kind of project. From my user perspective I would rather
have nvidia turn around and learn from Intel and lately ATI/AMD. Even those
are big challenges but at least documentation exists. The Nouveau developers
have chosen a real 'mission impossible' and are actually getting there. I am
very, very impressed.


> 
> > Did a yum update and rebooted. Got the superblock in the future error.
> Yes, 
> > I am east of Greenwich. A lot of us are. Make it part of your testing
> of 
> > all packages, please. The evolution-mapi connector is full of such time
> 
> > zone errors as well. I didn't work around this issue, as I was ready to
> 
> > reinstall.

Is it possible to search the source of all packages for constructs that
assume GMT offset is positive? Or perhaps add testing with negative time
zones to some list of recommended test procedures?

-- 
birger



From johannbg at hi.is  Thu Oct 22 19:02:34 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:02:34 +0000
Subject: F12 beta live installs
In-Reply-To: <1256236110.2314.463.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256220101.4ae065c51ef63@secure.prioris.net>
	<1256236110.2314.463.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AE0AC4A.6000408@hi.is>

On 10/22/2009 06:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 16:01 +0200, Birger Wathne wrote:
>   
>> I have tested a few installs on my idle test PC.
>>
>> Overall, a nice new release with exciting news and a few blockers. 
>> Beautiful theme (as always).
>>
>>
>> Fedora 12 x86_64 live CD
>>
>> Comes up nicely with 1920x1200 resolution using nouveau driver.
>> I must have pressed enter to wake up the display, as I found myself logged 
>> in without selecting keyboard layout. The default was USA layout. Easy 
>> enough to correct.
>>     
> There's a time-out on the login - if you leave it sitting at GDM long
> enough, it just logs itself in with default options.
>
>   
>> Installed to hard drive
>> Installed on entire drives
>> Selected Review and modify
>> Deleted all lvm stuff, built a raid1 device for /home and rebuilt the lvm vg
>> for swap and /
>> Creating filesystems took a long time. I would prefer to answer all
>> questions first so I could leave the PC.
>> The reboot button on the last screen didn't reboot. Just terminated the 
>> installer.
>> Rebooted and left.
>> When I came back the CD tray was ejected and the screen black. Nothing 
>> would wake the screen, so I removed the CD and forcefully rebooted. See the 
>> i686 install below for more info.
>> Booted nicely, went through firstboot, setting up my local NTP servers, etc.
>> Set up a local user.
>> Logged in, and the default keyboard was still USA...
>> Logged out and selected correct keyboard at login.
>> Still USA layout after login!
>> Went to system->preferences->Keyboard. USA was the only layout listed. 
>> Added Norwegian and removed USA.
>> Logged out and selected my user. The keyboard selector at the login screen 
>> still says USA. Ignored it and entered my password.
>> Got correct keyboard layout.
>> Login screen keyboard layout selector seems to not work at all. Keyboard 
>> selection at install doesn't have any effect on the default after install.
>>     
> I believe it's only meant to set the keyboard layout *for GDM* (if you
> set your username and password with, oh, a Russian keyboard layout,
> trying to enter them with an English one is unlikely to work
> spectacularly well :>). I could be wrong here, though.
>   

No this is a regression..

In a perfect pony world after the install you should have the keyboard
layout you select during install.
( thou I cant recalling that to ever work since F8 or to be precise the
removal of xorg.conf  ).

X/Gnome seems not only be adding the USA keyboard layout back to the
users account after he removes it but defaulting to it as well.

We need to add locale or at least an none USA keyboard layout to
autoqa's test queue.

JBG
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From hasan.ibraheem at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 19:58:55 2009
From: hasan.ibraheem at gmail.com (Hassan Ibraheem)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:58:55 +0200
Subject: wireless always switched on on boot
In-Reply-To: <4ADEFA5D.3000802@gmail.com>
References: <3109f2250910210449w10224fc4hc7973f6956ac2510@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEF7E6.4080900@gmail.com>
	<3109f2250910210507j346a2ec1w3eb595d62672104c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEFA5D.3000802@gmail.com>
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2009/10/21 Aioanei Rares :
> On 10/21/2009 03:07 PM, Hassan Ibraheem wrote:
>>
>> 2009/10/21 Aioanei Rares:
>>
>>>
>>> On 10/21/2009 02:49 PM, Hassan Ibraheem wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Fedora (both 11 and rawhide) doesn't remember my wireless connection
>>>> state, and *always* turns it on at boot, even if it was turned off
>>>> when I booted/rebooted.
>>>> I'm using KDE, I don't if it's relevant though.
>>>>
>>>> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg
>>>> Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
>>>>
>>>> Is this a bug? or something configurable?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you using NetworkManager or the old-school way ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm using NetworkManager.
>>
>>
>
> Well then , it can be easily configured. Right click on NM's icon in the
> tray and start from there.
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

Sorry I used the wrong term, the problem is that the wireless
*adapter* is always turned on on boot, not the connection.
I can't find any relevant options in NetworkManager to disable that.
I ran system-config-network and unchecked "Activate when system
starts" for the wireless adapter,
but it's still turned on on boot, It's turned on before any details
are displayed on the screen (even before "Starting udev").


-- 
Hassan Ibraheem



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 22 20:15:59 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:15:59 -0700
Subject: wireless always switched on on boot
In-Reply-To: <3109f2250910221258r61c4bba6oa9a816579e0dd7c2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3109f2250910210449w10224fc4hc7973f6956ac2510@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEF7E6.4080900@gmail.com>
	<3109f2250910210507j346a2ec1w3eb595d62672104c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEFA5D.3000802@gmail.com>
	<3109f2250910221258r61c4bba6oa9a816579e0dd7c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256242559.2314.483.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 21:58 +0200, Hassan Ibraheem wrote:

> Sorry I used the wrong term, the problem is that the wireless
> *adapter* is always turned on on boot, not the connection.
> I can't find any relevant options in NetworkManager to disable that.
> I ran system-config-network and unchecked "Activate when system
> starts" for the wireless adapter,
> but it's still turned on on boot, It's turned on before any details
> are displayed on the screen (even before "Starting udev").

That's not really the same thing. s-c-n is for controlling the old way
of doing network configuration, its settings wouldn't kick in unless you
set the connection to be not controlled by NetworkManager. Even then,
what that checkbox would really do is just not bring the interface up by
default at boot time; the *hardware* itself would still be activated.

I don't think NM is written to assume that the settings you choose for
'Enable Networking' and 'Enable Wireless' should be preserved across
boots. Dan, what's the status of this? Is it expected behaviour for
those statuses to be preserved? If not, do you think it should be?

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Thu Oct 22 20:57:17 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:57:17 -0400
Subject: long standing aggravation
In-Reply-To: <200910221445.16795.gene@czarc.net>
References: <200910211724.52927.gene@czarc.net> <20091021175036.620c83fc@zooty>
	<200910221445.16795.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <4AE0C72D.5060804@cox.net>

On 10/22/2009 02:45 PM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
> .
>
> So, if /proc/scsi/scsi can be created correctly, why can't anaconda do it?
>
Looks like anaconda is using the BIOS boot disk order, not the bus 
order.  At least it does that on my ASUS P5K-E mobo and P5E mobo and 
some older ASUS mobos that I used to have.



From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 20:54:31 2009
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:54:31 +0200
Subject: wireless always switched on on boot
In-Reply-To: <1256242559.2314.483.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <3109f2250910210449w10224fc4hc7973f6956ac2510@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEF7E6.4080900@gmail.com>
	<3109f2250910210507j346a2ec1w3eb595d62672104c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEFA5D.3000802@gmail.com>
	<3109f2250910221258r61c4bba6oa9a816579e0dd7c2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1256242559.2314.483.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1256244871.2207.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 13:15 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> I don't think NM is written to assume that the settings you choose for
> 'Enable Networking' and 'Enable Wireless' should be preserved across
> boots. Dan, what's the status of this? Is it expected behaviour for
> those statuses to be preserved? If not, do you think it should be?
Actually this seems to be a slightly wider problem. My bluetooth adapter
does not remember it's state across boots either (and stopped doing so
at the same time as the wifi adapter -- in F11) and is always on during
boot.

Martin
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 22 21:05:20 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:05:20 -0700
Subject: Fedora Test Day Summary - Confined Users
In-Reply-To: <1597275399.1084641256220651432.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1597275399.1084641256220651432.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1256245520.2314.494.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 10:10 -0400, Eduard Benes wrote:
> Greetings!
> 
> This Tuesday was the "Confined Users" Test Day / Fit&Finish [1] (TD/F&F).
> Though we expected higher attendance, the results are really valuable.

I'm sorry I wasn't able to help publicise this test day much, it's been
a crazy week around here :( thanks for running it, though!

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 22 21:23:13 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:23:13 -0700
Subject: wireless always switched on on boot
In-Reply-To: <1256244871.2207.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <3109f2250910210449w10224fc4hc7973f6956ac2510@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEF7E6.4080900@gmail.com>
	<3109f2250910210507j346a2ec1w3eb595d62672104c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEFA5D.3000802@gmail.com>
	<3109f2250910221258r61c4bba6oa9a816579e0dd7c2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1256242559.2314.483.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256244871.2207.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256246593.2314.503.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 22:54 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 13:15 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > I don't think NM is written to assume that the settings you choose for
> > 'Enable Networking' and 'Enable Wireless' should be preserved across
> > boots. Dan, what's the status of this? Is it expected behaviour for
> > those statuses to be preserved? If not, do you think it should be?

> Actually this seems to be a slightly wider problem. My bluetooth adapter
> does not remember it's state across boots either (and stopped doing so
> at the same time as the wifi adapter -- in F11) and is always on during
> boot.

As far as I know NM *manages* the 'enable wireless / wired' settings, it
doesn't just *control* settings that are actually implemented elsewhere,
so that would appear to be a different problem. F12 is built to enable
bluetooth 'on demand', according to the feature notes, that could have
something to do with it.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 21:32:13 2009
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:32:13 +0200
Subject: wireless always switched on on boot
In-Reply-To: <1256246593.2314.503.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <3109f2250910210449w10224fc4hc7973f6956ac2510@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEF7E6.4080900@gmail.com>
	<3109f2250910210507j346a2ec1w3eb595d62672104c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ADEFA5D.3000802@gmail.com>
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	<1256246593.2314.503.camel@adam.local.net>
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On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 14:23 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> As far as I know NM *manages* the 'enable wireless / wired' settings, it
> doesn't just *control* settings that are actually implemented elsewhere,
> so that would appear to be a different problem. F12 is built to enable
> bluetooth 'on demand', according to the feature notes, that could have
> something to do with it.
The "disable wireless" actually *does not* turn off the device. Besides,
the device (both the wifi and bluetooth) are turned on long before n-m
starts. In F10 they remembered last used setting, in F11 they started to
just turn on always (I suspect some kernel/udev/hal options are playing
part in that)...

Martin
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From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Thu Oct 22 23:13:00 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:13:00 +0800
Subject: yum
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4AE06D2D.2030406@herakles.homelinux.org>		<4AE077A1.3050203@herakles.homelinux.org>
	
Message-ID: <4AE0E6FC.4040302@herakles.homelinux.org>

Seth Vidal wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, John Summerfield wrote:
> 
>> Seth Vidal wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> If stdin is not a tty, don't ask, but do it if "--force" so that it 
>>>> can still be scripted.
>>>>
>>>
>>> yum has the protect-packages plugin.
>>>
>>> It does more or less what you mention above.
>>
>> It's not installed on my RHEL-clone system. I don't have a useful 
>> Fedora system at present, so I can't check that.
>>
>> Unless yum-protect-packages is part of the standard set of installed 
>> packages, it's not going to be very effective.
>>
>> I see a lot of yum plugins listed but uninstalled, I don't know what 
>> most of them do. Perhaps more of them should be installed as part of 
>> the  base installation, and users directed to configure them.
> 
> If you install the protect-packages plugin with base it plays hell with 
> things like mock and chroot construction - which is part of the reason 

Then the suggestion isn't really done. I've not used mock (but I might), 
and I have done chroot maintenance, and wouldn't want to do anything to 
make it hard to do so again.

> it is not installed in base. We can work around it - but we've not had 
> much demand for it.

I can understand that, it's taken years for me to get around to 
suggesting it. Still I think it's something that should be done, properly.


> And considering the lack of detail here I don't see that demand 
> increasing overly much.

I tried to be clear, but like whoever wrote these, I may have assumed 
too much:
Name       : yum-kmod
Arch       : noarch
Version    : 1.1.16
Release    : 13.el5.centos
Size       : 17 k
Repo       : base
Summary    : Yum plugin to handle fedora kernel modules.
URL        : http://linux.duke.edu/yum/download/yum-utils/
License    : GPLv2+
Description: Plugin for Yum to handle installation of kmod-foo type of 
kernel modules, when new kernel versions are installed.
Name       : yum-aliases
Arch       : noarch
Version    : 1.1.16
Release    : 13.el5.centos
Size       : 16 k
Repo       : base
Summary    : Yum plugin to enable aliases filters
URL        : http://linux.duke.edu/yum/download/yum-utils/
License    : GPLv2+
Description: This plugin adds the command alias, and parses the aliases 
config. file to enable aliases.


> 
> If you wish to have this protection then you can install it. It's pretty 
> simple.


I'm talking about improving Fedora (and RHEL), not about fixing any 
problems I have. If a package, as installed, lacks a particular feature, 
I'm more likely to assume the feature doesn't exist than to look for 
optional extras. Looking for optional extras for each package - I have 
1227 installed on my desktop system - that lacks some feature I would 
like doesn't scale well.

If the optional extra doesn't work in some (undocumented) circumstances, 
then I agree, it's not generally usable.



I for one would vote for more integrated[1] functionality, and fewer 
optional extras. Some might be turned off by default - not everyone 
should use fastestmirror for example. Yum commands to manipulate plugins 
(and repos) would be handy:
yum list plugins
yum enable plugin fred
yum disable plugin fred
"plugin" and "plugins" should be synonymous, people are likely to use 
either and become frustrated when they guess wrongly.

1 "Integrated" might be satisfied by inclusion in a standard install, I 
don't mean to prescribe how they should be written.

-- 

Cheers
John

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From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Thu Oct 22 23:41:34 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:41:34 +0800
Subject: long standing aggravation
In-Reply-To: <4AE0C72D.5060804@cox.net>
References: <200910211724.52927.gene@czarc.net>
	<20091021175036.620c83fc@zooty>	<200910221445.16795.gene@czarc.net>
	<4AE0C72D.5060804@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4AE0EDAE.5090803@herakles.homelinux.org>

Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 10/22/2009 02:45 PM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
>> .
>>
>> So, if /proc/scsi/scsi can be created correctly, why can't anaconda do 
>> it?
>>
> Looks like anaconda is using the BIOS boot disk order, not the bus 
> order.  At least it does that on my ASUS P5K-E mobo and P5E mobo and 
> some older ASUS mobos that I used to have.
> 
The "BIOS boot order" is not as easy to find as you'd like:
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Device-map.html#Device-map
"The reason why the grub shell gives you the device map file is that it 
cannot guess the map between BIOS drives and OS devices correctly in 
some environments. For example, if you exchange the boot sequence 
between IDE and SCSI in your BIOS, it gets the order wrong."

A long-existing problem with SCSI disks is figuring the order, reliably. 
SCSI controllers can support seven or fifteen devices, and one can 
add/remove devices (on some at least) at any time, including while the 
system is up and running. I don't recall whether the host OS could tell 
which connector any particular disk was attached to, but I suspect not.

I could never understand how calling all disks "scsi" would help.

I can imagine that polling a SCSI adaptor, checking what is attached to 
each connector might be time-consuming (especially if it relies on a 
timeout to detect "nothing here, move along") and might miss something 
that is slow to respond - perhaps getting different results between 
cold-stand and warm-start, while relying on interrupts as devices become 
ready could result in random ordering, even on the same hardware and 
potentially between reboots.

No doubt the use of GUIDs solves the problem of recognising individual 
disks, unfriendly to humans though they be.

I have wondered whether /dev/sda might be an internal disk one boot, a 
USB disk another even when both are present both times. I think I could 
build a kernel so they do change, by reordering the loading of relevant 
drivers.



-- 

Cheers
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From tom.horsley at att.net  Fri Oct 23 00:40:11 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:40:11 -0400
Subject: anaconda asknetwork parameter
Message-ID: <20091022204011.759a8b06@zooty>

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530470

This is my first f12 beta bug so far, and I worked around it
by simply removing the asknetwork parameter.

I remembered why I always use asknetwork later when trying to
get my static network up after the install :-).

I started as always by disabling NetworkManager and enabling
network. Then I copied my ifcfg-eth0 and ifcfg-br0 scripts
from fedora 11 partition to fedora 12 and rebooted.

Still no network.

I decided maybe bridges aren't working, so I deleted the br0
file and edited the eth0 file to have the whole static network
def, rebooted again, and still no network.

So I ran System > Administration > Network and defined the
eth0 from scratch, which produced a file as close to identical
to the one I made by hand as I could see, rebooted again,
and this time the network is up.

Why is this so hard? I guess I should try building the bridge
again next, but it is time to watch baseball now :-).



From jkeating at redhat.com  Fri Oct 23 01:46:52 2009
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:46:52 -0700
Subject: anaconda asknetwork parameter
In-Reply-To: <20091022204011.759a8b06@zooty>
References: <20091022204011.759a8b06@zooty>
Message-ID: <1256262412.9182.164.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 20:40 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> 
> So I ran System > Administration > Network and defined the
> eth0 from scratch, which produced a file as close to identical
> to the one I made by hand as I could see, rebooted again,
> and this time the network is up. 

Could it have been an selinux issue, not getting the right context on
the file you copied from a previous location, but getting the right one
when creating it through the tool?

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
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From guido.grazioli at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 01:50:18 2009
From: guido.grazioli at gmail.com (Guido Grazioli)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:50:18 +0200
Subject: yum
In-Reply-To: <4AE0E6FC.4040302@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <4AE06D2D.2030406@herakles.homelinux.org>
	
	<4AE077A1.3050203@herakles.homelinux.org>
	
	<4AE0E6FC.4040302@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <2f984ea00910221850hf609dderd5a6fb1e1c241799@mail.gmail.com>

2009/10/23 John Summerfield 

>
> I for one would vote for more integrated[1] functionality, and fewer
> optional extras. Some might be turned off by default - not everyone should
> use fastestmirror for example. Yum commands to manipulate plugins (and
> repos) would be handy:
>


> yum list plugins
>

-> yum search "yum plugin"

yum disable plugin fred
>

-> yum  --disable-plugin=

there's no --enable-plugin though


> "plugin" and "plugins" should be synonymous, people are likely to use
> either and become frustrated when they guess wrongly.
>
>
teach people to read man pages instead of guessing when using a shell, it
may be handy also


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From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 23 01:53:19 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:53:19 -0700
Subject: F12 beta live installs
In-Reply-To: <1256220101.4ae065c51ef63@secure.prioris.net>
References: <1256220101.4ae065c51ef63@secure.prioris.net>
Message-ID: <1256262799.2314.506.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 16:01 +0200, Birger Wathne wrote:

> Set up a local user.
> Logged in, and the default keyboard was still USA...
> Logged out and selected correct keyboard at login.
> Still USA layout after login!
> Went to system->preferences->Keyboard. USA was the only layout listed. 
> Added Norwegian and removed USA.
> Logged out and selected my user. The keyboard selector at the login screen 
> still says USA. Ignored it and entered my password.
> Got correct keyboard layout.
> Login screen keyboard layout selector seems to not work at all. Keyboard 
> selection at install doesn't have any effect on the default after install.

> This time I selected Norwegian layout while logging into the live session. 
> This actually worked.
> Installed just like the x86_64 install above. This time I was present while 
> the system supposedly rebooted. After I typed reboot, the screen went 
> black, the tray ejected, and then nothing. The system never rebooted. I 
> assume this was the same with the x86_64 install.
> Everything proceeded just like the x86_64 install. They seemed completely 
> bug-compatible, including the keyboard layout selector at login not doing 
> much good.

There's been a bug filed about the keyboard layout problems; could you
follow up on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530452 with
your experiences? Thanks.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From tom.horsley at att.net  Fri Oct 23 02:15:39 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:15:39 -0400
Subject: anaconda asknetwork parameter
In-Reply-To: <1256262412.9182.164.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20091022204011.759a8b06@zooty>
	<1256262412.9182.164.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20091022221539.29e6b24f@zooty>

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:46:52 -0700
Jesse Keating wrote:

> Could it have been an selinux issue, not getting the right context on
> the file you copied from a previous location, but getting the right one
> when creating it through the tool?

I suppose it is possible, I haven't yet disabled selinux (that is
on my list right after disabling NetworkManager :-).



From jwendel10 at comcast.net  Fri Oct 23 03:33:45 2009
From: jwendel10 at comcast.net (john wendel)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:33:45 -0700
Subject: F12 Beta Live-CD Fail [1]
Message-ID: <4AE12419.7030706@comcast.net>

I just tried the F12 beta live cd, 686, gnome on a really old Dell PIII, 
512 MB, Nvidia TNT2 PCI video and got a panic. The splash screen works 
and then the screen goes blank and the keyboard lights wink.

I'd like to bugzilla, but I'm not sure how to gather any useful info. 
I'll be happy to follow any instructions, but I'm not sure how to proceed.

Thanks,

John



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Fri Oct 23 04:51:12 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:51:12 -0400
Subject: F12 Beta Live-CD Fail [1]
In-Reply-To: <4AE12419.7030706@comcast.net>
References: <4AE12419.7030706@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1256273472.2533.10.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 20:33 -0700, john wendel wrote:
> I just tried the F12 beta live cd, 686, gnome on a really old Dell PIII, 
> 512 MB, Nvidia TNT2 PCI video and got a panic. The splash screen works 
> and then the screen goes blank and the keyboard lights wink.
> 
> I'd like to bugzilla, but I'm not sure how to gather any useful info. 
> I'll be happy to follow any instructions, but I'm not sure how to proceed.

There are some good if disorganized suggestions at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_kernel_problems#Diagnosing_.22My_machine_locked_up.22
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_kernel_problems#crash_hang

I added clearer links from the main bug suggestion page
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests so hopefully
these hints are a bit less buried.

-B.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 23 04:53:36 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:53:36 -0700
Subject: F12 Beta Live-CD Fail [1]
In-Reply-To: <4AE12419.7030706@comcast.net>
References: <4AE12419.7030706@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1256273616.2314.507.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 20:33 -0700, john wendel wrote:
> I just tried the F12 beta live cd, 686, gnome on a really old Dell PIII, 
> 512 MB, Nvidia TNT2 PCI video and got a panic. The splash screen works 
> and then the screen goes blank and the keyboard lights wink.
> 
> I'd like to bugzilla, but I'm not sure how to gather any useful info. 
> I'll be happy to follow any instructions, but I'm not sure how to proceed.

Try booting to text mode; edit the kernel command line, remove 'rhgb
quiet', and add '3' (just the number 3). then let it boot and see what
happens.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 06:51:33 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:51:33 +1100
Subject: NetworkManager at odd with system connections
Message-ID: 

Hi

I have a problem with NetworkManager on a fully updated rawhide. I have the
following network configurations:

# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0
DEVICE=br0
TYPE=Bridge
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
ONBOOT=yes

# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0
DEVICE=eth0
TYPE=Ethernet
BRIDGE=br0
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
HWADDR=00:1B:FC:60:8D:45
ONBOOT=yes

With NetworkManager service disabled, network is functional but when I
enable NetworkManager, it assigns an IP for eth0 and modifies route table
which break the network:
# ifconfig
br0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1B:FC:60:8D:45
          inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::21b:fcff:fe60:8d45/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:925 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:749 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:334804 (326.9 KiB)  TX bytes:254028 (248.0 KiB)

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1B:FC:60:8D:45
          inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::21b:fcff:fe60:8d45/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:61144 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:40629 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:69658068 (66.4 MiB)  TX bytes:5827489 (5.5 MiB)
          Interrupt:17
...
route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
Iface
192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 br0
192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     1      0        0 eth0
192.168.122.0   *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0
virbr0
link-local      *               255.255.0.0     U     1019   0        0 br0
default         192.168.1.254   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0

Is this supposed to happen with NM or my configurations are incorrect?

Regards,
Masood
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From the.masch at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 07:26:40 2009
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:26:40 -0200
Subject: F12 Beta installation FAIL
Message-ID: <93d66b780910230026r40ade452x524112a490143175@mail.gmail.com>

I've installed F12 and updated to the latest version and I think that I have
an issue with the Xorg-server. In random time, I got black screen, no mouse
and no keyword works, but the OS works because I can connect from another
machine using SSH. I tried using GNOME and KDE and it freezes in both cases.
I have an  Nvidia card and I've tried with nomodeset and without it.

Does anybody have the same problem? Should I report to bugzilla?

Thanks.
Salu2...
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From lili at redhat.com  Fri Oct 23 09:16:08 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:16:08 +0800
Subject: F12 Beta installation FAIL
In-Reply-To: <93d66b780910230026r40ade452x524112a490143175@mail.gmail.com>
References: <93d66b780910230026r40ade452x524112a490143175@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE17458.9010908@redhat.com>

On 10/23/2009 03:26 PM, Mario Chacon wrote:
> I've installed F12 and updated to the latest version and I think that I
> have an issue with the Xorg-server. In random time, I got black screen,
> no mouse and no keyword works, but the OS works because I can connect
> from another machine using SSH. I tried using GNOME and KDE and it
> freezes in both cases.
> I have an  Nvidia card and I've tried with nomodeset and without it.
>
> Does anybody have the same problem? Should I report to bugzilla?
>

What is your Nvidia card? And please check the following bug whether you 
have the same issue:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601

if so,please file a new bug according to the last comment of Adam 
Williamson after the black screen happens again and don't forget to 
upload your logs: /var/log/messages and /var/log/Xorg.0.log

thanks
Liam



From the.masch at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 09:34:57 2009
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:34:57 -0300
Subject: F12 Beta installation FAIL
In-Reply-To: <4AE17458.9010908@redhat.com>
References: <93d66b780910230026r40ade452x524112a490143175@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4AE17458.9010908@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <93d66b780910230234w1f2769d7r831a931449778e25@mail.gmail.com>

I have  nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7950 GT], this issue wasn't happen
on F11.
I've created the issue on the bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530520

Thanks


On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Liam  wrote:

> On 10/23/2009 03:26 PM, Mario Chacon wrote:
>
>> I've installed F12 and updated to the latest version and I think that I
>> have an issue with the Xorg-server. In random time, I got black screen,
>> no mouse and no keyword works, but the OS works because I can connect
>> from another machine using SSH. I tried using GNOME and KDE and it
>> freezes in both cases.
>> I have an  Nvidia card and I've tried with nomodeset and without it.
>>
>> Does anybody have the same problem? Should I report to bugzilla?
>>
>>
> What is your Nvidia card? And please check the following bug whether you
> have the same issue:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601
>
> if so,please file a new bug according to the last comment of Adam
> Williamson after the black screen happens again and don't forget to upload
> your logs: /var/log/messages and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>
> thanks
> Liam
>
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From gtmkramer at xs4all.nl  Fri Oct 23 11:38:47 2009
From: gtmkramer at xs4all.nl (Jurgen Kramer)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:38:47 +0200
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
Message-ID: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>

I've just installed F12beta (x86_64) in a KVM virtual machine without
problems. When trying to update through System->Administration->Software
Update it failed because of a missing dependency. Not really a surprise
there. I then update through a yum update --skip-broken, that worked.

Is there a way to do a '--skip-broken' via de gui updater? That would be
a really useful feature. Now you have to find the misbehaving package(s)
and deselect them before you can do a update. To longer the list of
updates...

Jurgen



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 23 11:54:20 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:54:20 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091023 changes
Message-ID: <20091023115420.GA27708@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri Oct 23 06:15:16 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	openscada-visStation-0.6.4-3.fc12.i686 requires openscada-Special-FlibSYS



Broken deps for x86_64
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	openscada-visStation-0.6.4-3.fc12.x86_64 requires openscada-Special-FlibSYS






Broken deps for ppc64
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	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



New package cvc3
        Validity checker of many-sorted first-order formulas with theories
New package django-flash
        A Django extension to provide support for Rails-like flash
New package django-typepad
        A helper Django app for making TypePad applications
New package evolution-couchdb
        An evolution backend to CouchDBs for PIM information
New package mingw32-freeglut
        Fedora MinGW alternative to the OpenGL Utility Toolkit (GLUT)
New package python-batchhttp
        Parallel fetching of HTTP resources through MIME multipart
New package python-oauth
        Library for OAuth version 1.0a
New package python-remoteobjects
        An Object RESTational Model
New package python-tg-devtools
        Development tools and templates for TurboGears2
New package python-typepad
        Connectivity to the TypePad API through remote objects
New package typepad-motion
        A microblogging application for building online communities
Updated Packages:

blazeblogger-1.0.0-1.fc12
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* Wed Oct 21 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  1.0.0-1
- update to new upstream release


evince-2.28.1-3.fc12
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* Thu Oct 22 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-2
- Provide some hint if search is not available

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Marek Kasik  - 2.28.1-3
- Add evince-thumbnail-allocation.patch (checks whether
- GdkPixbuf was allocated correctly)


f-spot-0.6.1.3-1.fc12
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* Sun Oct 04 2009 Christian Krause  - 0.6.1.3-1
- Update to 0.6.1.3 (BZ 526217)
- Remove two upstreamed patches
- Use a slightly different fix for the cairo-devel dependency 
  (suggested by upstream)

* Wed Sep 30 2009 Christian Krause  - 0.6.1.2-3
- Add patch to fix f-spot crash when using "soft focus" and cairo-devel
  was not installed (BZ 526563)
- Minor spec file beautification


febootstrap-2.5-2.fc12
----------------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Richard Jones  - 2.5-2
- New upstream release 2.5.
- Remove BR upx (not needed by upstream).
- Two more scripts / manpages.


gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-8.fc12
---------------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.15-8
- Update code from gst-plugins-bad


gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-5.fc12
-------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-5
- Update farsight plugins from -bad
- Drop copy/pasted rtpmanager plugin, it's now in -good


gtk2-2.18.3-8.fc12
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* Thu Oct 22 2009 Peter Hutterer  - 2.18.3-8
- compose-sequences.patch: update compose sequences to what's currently in
  libX11 git.


kdelibs-4.3.2-4.fc12
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* Mon Oct 12 2009 Luk?? Tinkl  - 4.3.2-4
- khtml kpart crasher nr. 2 (rev.1033984)


parole-0.1.90-3.fc12
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python-tw-forms-0.9.8-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 01 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.8-1
- 0.9.8

* Wed Aug 12 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.9.7.2-1
- 0.9.7.2


roundcubemail-0.3-2.fc12
------------------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Jon Ciesla  = 0.3-2
- Macro fix, BZ530037.


smolt-1.4-4.fc12
----------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Mike McGrath  1.4-4
- Fixing firstboot for F-12


sugar-0.86.3-1.fc12
-------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 0.86.3-1
- Sporadic freezes while scrolling journal #1506
- Suppress race condition with Journal appearing on sugar startup #1373
- Alt+Space not working to show/hide the tray #1476


sugar-toolkit-0.86.2-1.fc12
---------------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 0.86.2-1
- Do not stop processing motion-notify-event #1507


telepathy-gabble-0.8.7-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Brian Pepple  - 0.8.7-1
- Update to 0.8.7.

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Brian Pepple  - 0.8.6-1
- Update to 0.8.6.


virtaal-0.4.1-1.fc12
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* Fri Oct 16 2009 Dwayne Bailey  - 0.4.1-1
- Update to 0.4.1
   - New translations: Turkish, Finnish, Vietnamese
   - Updated translations: Russian, Dutch and Zulu
   - More complete handling of "recent files" (bug 1120)
   - Better alignment with the GNOME human interface guidelines (bug 1095)
   - More reliable ways of obtaining the default font settings (bug 1092)
   - Better handling of HTML tags in the Apertium MT module
   - Small layout improvements (bug 1045, 1138)
- Depend on Translate Toolkit 1.4.1 for fixes to XLIFF, placeable and tmserver


Summary:
Added Packages: 11
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 16



From jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us  Fri Oct 23 13:00:06 2009
From: jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:00:06 -0400
Subject: NetworkManager at odd with system connections
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4AE1A8D6.2050406@kamens.brookline.ma.us>

Might be related to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519208.  
I filed that bug almost two months ago and there has been no motion on 
it whatsoever.  I've tried the same scenario again recently with similar 
results.

Personally, I've given up on NetworkManager until I see some sign that 
somebody is actively working on making it stable and fully supporting 
it.  If a user files a bug report about serious breakage like this and 
nothing has been done with it almost two months later, that seems to me 
like a pretty clear sign that the package is not ready for prime-time.

If NetworkManager is considered a F12 core feature, then the bug I filed 
should probably be an F12Blocker, but I didn't mark it as such because I 
don't know if it's a core feature.

   jik
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From kdekorte at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 13:08:28 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:08:28 -0600
Subject: F12 Beta Live-CD Fail [1]
In-Reply-To: <1256273616.2314.507.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4AE12419.7030706@comcast.net>
	<1256273616.2314.507.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AE1AACC.3040209@gmail.com>

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On 10/22/09 22:53, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 20:33 -0700, john wendel wrote:
>> I just tried the F12 beta live cd, 686, gnome on a really old Dell PIII, 
>> 512 MB, Nvidia TNT2 PCI video and got a panic. The splash screen works 
>> and then the screen goes blank and the keyboard lights wink.
>>
>> I'd like to bugzilla, but I'm not sure how to gather any useful info. 
>> I'll be happy to follow any instructions, but I'm not sure how to proceed.
> 
> Try booting to text mode; edit the kernel command line, remove 'rhgb
> quiet', and add '3' (just the number 3). then let it boot and see what
> happens.
> 

Another tip for desktop hangs with ATI video cards (especially r600
cards and higher) is to add

pcie_aspm=off

to the kernel line in /etc/grub.conf. Although I heard there was a fix
in progress for requiring this kernel option.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517625

Kevin

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From gene at czarc.net  Fri Oct 23 13:15:28 2009
From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:15:28 -0400
Subject: NetworkManager at odd with system connections
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200910230915.28434.gene@czarc.net>

On Friday 23 October 2009 02:51:33 Masood wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have a problem with NetworkManager on a fully updated rawhide. I have the
> following network configurations:
> 
> # cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0
> DEVICE=br0
> TYPE=Bridge
> BOOTPROTO=dhcp
> ONBOOT=yes
> 
> # cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0
> DEVICE=eth0
> TYPE=Ethernet
> BRIDGE=br0
> BOOTPROTO=dhcp
> HWADDR=00:1B:FC:60:8D:45
> ONBOOT=yes
> 
> With NetworkManager service disabled, network is functional but when I
> enable NetworkManager, it assigns an IP for eth0 and modifies route table
> which break the network:
> # ifconfig
> br0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1B:FC:60:8D:45
>           inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>           inet6 addr: fe80::21b:fcff:fe60:8d45/64 Scope:Link
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:925 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:749 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>           RX bytes:334804 (326.9 KiB)  TX bytes:254028 (248.0 KiB)
> 
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1B:FC:60:8D:45
>           inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>           inet6 addr: fe80::21b:fcff:fe60:8d45/64 Scope:Link
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:61144 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:40629 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>           RX bytes:69658068 (66.4 MiB)  TX bytes:5827489 (5.5 MiB)
>           Interrupt:17
> ...
> route
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
> Iface
> 192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 br0
> 192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     1      0        0
>  eth0 192.168.122.0   *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0       
>  0 virbr0
> link-local      *               255.255.0.0     U     1019   0        0 br0
> default         192.168.1.254   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0
>  eth0
> 
> Is this supposed to happen with NM or my configurations are incorrect?

Check http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking#Fedora.2FRHEL_Bridging which, I 
believe, is still the current documentation available.  As it says, 
NetworkManager does not support bridging and must be disabled on the host if 
you use bridging ... any qemu-kvm guests can use NetworkManager all they want.  
Also, you configuration files may be in error as compared to those shown in the 
example.

Yes, I was wondering how my host would function without eth0 being defined with 
a static IP or dhcp but it does ... it uses br0!

Gene



From ryniker at alum.mit.edu  Fri Oct 23 16:13:13 2009
From: ryniker at alum.mit.edu (Richard Ryniker)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:13:13 -0400
Subject: yum
In-Reply-To: <4AE0E6FC.4040302@herakles.homelinux.org>
	(debian@herakles.homelinux.org)
References: <4AE06D2D.2030406@herakles.homelinux.org>		<4AE077A1.3050203@herakles.homelinux.org>
	
	<4AE0E6FC.4040302@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: 

>If a package, as installed, lacks a particular feature, 
>I'm more likely to assume the feature doesn't exist than to look for 
>optional extras. Looking for optional extras for each package - I have 
>1227 installed on my desktop system - that lacks some feature I would 
>like doesn't scale well.

Might this, in part, be a metadata issue?  Yum does well to resolve
dependencies between packages (or reports they cannot be resolved), but
the notion of "extras" - additional resources that are separately
packaged, optional parts of another application - is not developed.  (Or
maybe it is... this would not be the first time SV has improved my
understanding of yum.)  Can a package have "weak dependencies" (such as
-devel packages) that yum can be configured or told to install
automatically?

A couple of years ago, I was so frustrated by multiple, failed attempts
to build applications because some -devel package had not
been installed that I wrote a program to iterate over every installed
package name and report any matching, uninstalled "-devel" package
available in a repository.  After I told yum to install all those, build
failures became interesting problems again.

If we had a way to add "extra" (especially uninstalled) packages to a
list of installed or available packages (because the metadata for listed
packages identified these extras), would this make it significantly
easier to find new or relocated function?  There may be no reasonable way
to add "extras" information formally to a package without a scary bump to
the foundations of rpm.  I really do not want to risk instability there,
without a clearly visible need.

An alternative would leave rpm contents alone and address this
independently, as a documentation issue.  Perhaps some external database
could track "extras" and other aspects of application development.  This
is less elegant, because information about one thing is separated into
two parts and two different actions may be required, but potentially more
valuable.

One can imagine a query that returns detailed history of a component (or
a smaller piece... say an individual file) through multiple Fedora
releases.

Sure, this information is available somewhere.  Or, rather, many
somewheres. It would be nice if it were obvious and easy to learn
about these things, especially for less experienced users.  (It would
also be nice if my computer understood all my questions, and could
optimally answer them.)

I hope this thread will incite suggestions about how to better manage
modular packaging.  We understand the real benefits we get when we build
a system from hundreds of separately-managed parts.  We still have to
learn how to make it all come out right for a larger fraction of users.

One place useful information might be added, without risk of
instability, is in package descriptions.  For example, F12 moved GNOME
preferences for windows from the control-center package into a
control-center-extra package.  If some pointer had been put into the
description for control-center, users might have an easier time to
learn this - especially if this sort of track were provided often so
one easily learned to look for it.  (The F12 Release Notes lists
control-center-extra, but says nothing about why it exists.)  If we
find some clever, standard format to add such details to descriptions,
we might preserve the terse description of a package and offer
multiple levels of detail in cases where more information is desired.
No separate facility needed.

I have mixed novice and expert issues in this comment.  I belong in the
expert camp - more interested in the gory details and think it's fun to
figure out what made such a mess - but I believe the novice perspective
is more important.  Without modular packaging, Fedora would not exist (at
least, not with a semiannual release schedule).  Can the novice be more
insulated from packaging issues, even if this entails some loss of
efficiency?  Let the experts build optimal systems; they can be expected
to know when something is not right, and learn how to fix it.  For the
novice, "It should just work."



From scott at ponzo.net  Fri Oct 23 16:12:06 2009
From: scott at ponzo.net (Scott Doty)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:12:06 -0700
Subject: wifi driver not bleshing with system-config-network or iwconfig
Message-ID: <4AE1D5D6.2050206@ponzo.net>

Hi,

Trying to get encryption working with a driver wrapped with ndiswrapper.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530271

Q&D summary:

Oct 21 22:07:53 m5 kernel: wlan0: encryption modes supported: WEP; TKIP with
WPA, WPA2, WPA2PSK; AES/CCMP with WPA, WPA2, WPA2PSK

But system-config-network reports:

 _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
    SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.

Determining IP information for wlan0... failed; no link present.  Check cable?
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _


iwlist reports this for my network:

wlan0     Scan completed :
          Cell 01 - Address: 00:1E:58:F3:39:93
                    ESSID:"HeavensHalfAcre"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.422 GHz (Channel 3)
                    Quality:56/100  Signal level:-60 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
                        Group Cipher : CCMP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK

Any ideas?  Thank you. :)

 -Scott




From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct 23 16:52:42 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:52:42 -0600
Subject: wifi driver not bleshing with system-config-network or iwconfig
In-Reply-To: <4AE1D5D6.2050206@ponzo.net>
References: <4AE1D5D6.2050206@ponzo.net>
Message-ID: <20091023165242.GA17278@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 09:12:06AM -0700, Scott Doty wrote:
> 
> Trying to get encryption working with a driver wrapped with ndiswrapper.

The first question would be if you know _for sure_ before attempting
hacks with ndiswrapper, which have no guarantees to function ever,
that none of already available drivers works for you.  

> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530271

You write there that this is BCM4328 Broadcom hardware. So the next
question is if you blacklisted b44, b43 and b43legacy when you
decided to try ndiswrapper?

> Any ideas?  Thank you. :)

If you try iwconfig directly then can you bring this interface up?
Did you check what dmesg has to say about this?

   Michal



From vpivaini at cs.helsinki.fi  Fri Oct 23 17:07:17 2009
From: vpivaini at cs.helsinki.fi (Ville-Pekka Vainio)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:07:17 +0300
Subject: A couple of issues with Fedora 12 Beta (BIOS and Radeon HD3450)
Message-ID: <1256317637.1927.19.camel@poytakone.lan>

I've been using Fedora 12 Beta for a few days and I've had a couple of
major issues with it. I've also blogged about those issues, my blog is
aggregated on Planet Fedora.

- the BIOS of the Intel DP35DP motherboard needs to be updated, or USB
won't work at all with the new kernel:
. I saw another user mentioning the same problem on the #fedora-devel IRC channel, so it's not just my system.

- I have a video card, which is identified as ATI Mobility Radeon HD
3450, with it the system hangs completely after a minute or two of
desktop use. I can get the system working with either the nomodeset or
the pcie_asm=off kernel parameters. Apparently it might be related to
bug  or bug
. My blog posting:
.

What do you think, should we maybe add something to the release notes
about the Fedora 12 kernel possibly requiring BIOS updates on some
systems? Is anyone else on the list seeing the BIOS issues I described?
It seems like the Radeon HD problems are already being handled in
Bugzilla, I'm just wondering whether my issue is the same as in bug
#517625 or not.


-- 
Ville-Pekka Vainio



From rivanvx at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 17:15:58 2009
From: rivanvx at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Vedran_Mileti=C4=87?=)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:15:58 +0200
Subject: A couple of issues with Fedora 12 Beta (BIOS and Radeon HD3450)
In-Reply-To: <1256317637.1927.19.camel@poytakone.lan>
References: <1256317637.1927.19.camel@poytakone.lan>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Ville-Pekka Vainio
 wrote:
> I've been using Fedora 12 Beta for a few days and I've had a couple of
> major issues with it. I've also blogged about those issues, my blog is
> aggregated on Planet Fedora.
>
> - the BIOS of the Intel DP35DP motherboard needs to be updated, or USB
> won't work at all with the new kernel:
> . I saw another user mentioning the same problem on the #fedora-devel IRC channel, so it's not just my system.

That's a BIOS bug then, I guess. I don't think kernel devs will bother
fixing stuff like that if a BIOS update fixes it.

> - I have a video card, which is identified as ATI Mobility Radeon HD
> 3450, with it the system hangs completely after a minute or two of
> desktop use. I can get the system working with either the nomodeset or
> the pcie_asm=off kernel parameters. Apparently it might be related to
> bug  or bug
> . My blog posting:
> .

I would bet on second bug. KMS bugs are very much card-specific, and
first is even reported on NVIDIA (comments on it are different bugs,
probably).

> What do you think, should we maybe add something to the release notes
> about the Fedora 12 kernel possibly requiring BIOS updates on some
> systems? Is anyone else on the list seeing the BIOS issues I described?
> It seems like the Radeon HD problems are already being handled in
> Bugzilla, I'm just wondering whether my issue is the same as in bug
> #517625 or not.

I will let someone else answer this.

-- 
Vedran Mileti?



From jamatos at fc.up.pt  Fri Oct 23 17:30:38 2009
From: jamatos at fc.up.pt (=?utf-8?q?Jos=C3=A9_Matos?=)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:30:38 +0100
Subject: A couple of issues with Fedora 12 Beta (BIOS and Radeon HD3450)
In-Reply-To: <1256317637.1927.19.camel@poytakone.lan>
References: <1256317637.1927.19.camel@poytakone.lan>
Message-ID: <200910231830.38643.jamatos@fc.up.pt>

On Friday 23 October 2009 18:07:17 Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote:
> I've been using Fedora 12 Beta for a few days and I've had a couple of
> major issues with it. I've also blogged about those issues, my blog is
> aggregated on Planet Fedora.
> 
> - the BIOS of the Intel DP35DP motherboard needs to be updated, or USB
> won't work at all with the new kernel:
>  p35dp-mainboard-requires-bios-update/>. I saw another user mentioning the
>  same problem on the #fedora-devel IRC channel, so it's not just my system.

That is being discussed here
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524808

-- 
Jos? Ab?lio



From vpivaini at cs.helsinki.fi  Fri Oct 23 18:31:58 2009
From: vpivaini at cs.helsinki.fi (Ville-Pekka Vainio)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:31:58 +0300
Subject: A couple of issues with Fedora 12 Beta (BIOS and Radeon HD3450)
In-Reply-To: <200910231830.38643.jamatos@fc.up.pt>
References: <1256317637.1927.19.camel@poytakone.lan>
	<200910231830.38643.jamatos@fc.up.pt>
Message-ID: <1256322718.1892.2.camel@poytakone.lan>

pe, 2009-10-23 kello 18:30 +0100, Jos? Matos kirjoitti:
> > - the BIOS of the Intel DP35DP motherboard needs to be updated, or USB
> > won't work at all with the new kernel:
> >  > p35dp-mainboard-requires-bios-update/>. I saw another user mentioning the
> >  same problem on the #fedora-devel IRC channel, so it's not just my system.
> 
> That is being discussed here
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524808

Thanks. I had no idea this was somehow related to Intel virtualization
technology, I probably wouldn't have found that bug without your help.
I've submitted the log of a problematic boot with the old BIOS version
to the bug report.


-- 
Ville-Pekka Vainio



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 23 21:56:34 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:56:34 -0700
Subject: F12 Beta Live-CD Fail [1]
In-Reply-To: <4AE1AACC.3040209@gmail.com>
References: <4AE12419.7030706@comcast.net>
	<1256273616.2314.507.camel@adam.local.net> <4AE1AACC.3040209@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256334994.2314.512.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 07:08 -0600, Kevin DeKorte wrote:

> Another tip for desktop hangs with ATI video cards (especially r600
> cards and higher) is to add
> 
> pcie_aspm=off
> 
> to the kernel line in /etc/grub.conf. Although I heard there was a fix
> in progress for requiring this kernel option.
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517625

Better reference:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#radeon-pcie_aspm

use the common bugs, Luke!

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From dtimms at iinet.net.au  Fri Oct 23 23:37:58 2009
From: dtimms at iinet.net.au (David Timms)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:37:58 +1100
Subject: yum and rpm packaging
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4AE06D2D.2030406@herakles.homelinux.org>		<4AE077A1.3050203@herakles.homelinux.org>		<4AE0E6FC.4040302@herakles.homelinux.org>
	
Message-ID: <4AE23E56.1000401@iinet.net.au>

On 10/24/2009 03:13 AM, Richard Ryniker wrote:
> A couple of years ago, I was so frustrated by multiple, failed attempts
> to build applications because some-devel package had not
> been installed that I wrote a program to iterate over every installed
> package name and report any matching, uninstalled "-devel" package
> available in a repository.  After I told yum to install all those
...
1. you had serious overkill
2. if you didn't have the 'base' package installed, you still didn't get 
the needed -devel package installed to build your app.

RPM is about reproducible package building. To this end, it gives the 
opportunity to list both runtime and build time requirements. Usually an 
upstream author will (should) mention, in some text note, that to 
compile her program, install x,y,z

The .spec formalizes this. It doesn't help when that upstream note 
missed things.

The Fedora build systems (via mock) enforce this by preparing a chroot 
that contains only the build-requires written into the spec. If the 
package fails to build you haven't included all requires yet.

Additionally, if the package builds but didn't have some optional 
capabilities, then a build requires might be missing for that optional 
feature.

...
> One place useful information might be added, without risk of
> instability, is in package descriptions.  For example, F12 moved GNOME
> preferences for windows from the control-center package into a
> control-center-extra package.  If some pointer had been put into the
> description for control-center, users might have an easier time to
> learn this - especially if this sort of track were provided often so
> one easily learned to look for it.  (The F12 Release Notes lists
> control-center-extra, but says nothing about why it exists.)  If we
The RPM packager can already do this, by adding provides in the package. 
When a tool like yum whatprovides /x/y/z or a capability, the package 
that provides it is returned. Usually, the new package also provides an 
obsoletes (with version), to inform package managers that this new 
package takes over some roles of the original package.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Sat Oct 24 01:20:05 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:20:05 -0700
Subject: A couple of issues with Fedora 12 Beta (BIOS and Radeon HD3450)
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256317637.1927.19.camel@poytakone.lan>
	
Message-ID: <1256347205.2314.520.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 19:15 +0200, Vedran Mileti? wrote:

> > - I have a video card, which is identified as ATI Mobility Radeon HD
> > 3450, with it the system hangs completely after a minute or two of
> > desktop use. I can get the system working with either the nomodeset or
> > the pcie_asm=off kernel parameters. Apparently it might be related to
> > bug  or bug
> > . My blog posting:
> > .
> 
> I would bet on second bug. KMS bugs are very much card-specific, and
> first is even reported on NVIDIA (comments on it are different bugs,
> probably).

You're right, but unfortunately 517625 has built up a lot of momentum as
being for the ATI pcie_aspm issue, and we probably won't be able to
knock it back to being about Quentin's NVIDIA issue. So we'd better
leave it that way for now. As pcie_aspm=off fixes it for Ville-Pekka,
his bug is 517625. 528393 is for a bug (or possibly bugs) which aren't
helped by pcie_aspm=off.

> > What do you think, should we maybe add something to the release notes
> > about the Fedora 12 kernel possibly requiring BIOS updates on some
> > systems? Is anyone else on the list seeing the BIOS issues I described?
> > It seems like the Radeon HD problems are already being handled in
> > Bugzilla, I'm just wondering whether my issue is the same as in bug
> > #517625 or not.
> 
> I will let someone else answer this.

The pcie_aspm bug is documented on the Common Bugs page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#radeon-pcie_aspm

I think someone added a note to the F11 common bugs page about BIOS
updates sometimes being necessary to resolve bugs, I'll probably copy
that into the F12 page too.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From ryniker at alum.mit.edu  Sat Oct 24 01:54:13 2009
From: ryniker at alum.mit.edu (Richard Ryniker)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:54:13 -0400
Subject: F12 ASUS eeepc page table error
Message-ID: 

Maybe it is nothing to worry about, but "page table error" sounds like
something is awry (see lines prefaced with > below.)  This occurs with a
current (23Oct2009) Rawhide system running on an early ASUS eeepc.
Full log is available at:  http://ryniker.ods.org/errors/eee_log

Because of limited (flash) storage, F12 was installed from a live
image instead of an installation DVD.

Despite these alarming messages, the machine boots successfully.  I do
not observe any adverse consequence.

    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: dracut: dracut-002-13.4.git8f397a9b.fc12
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: udev: starting version 145
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: udevadm used greatest stack depth: 6464 bytes left
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: input: Video Bus as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0A08:00/device:16/input/input7
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: ACPI: Video Device [VGA] (multi-head: yes  rom: no  post: no)
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: async/2 used greatest stack depth: 6076 bytes left
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: async/0 used greatest stack depth: 5940 bytes left
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: i915 0000:00:02.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: [drm] DAC-6: set mode 640x480 0
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: [drm] TV-12: set mode NTSC 480i 0
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: fbcon: inteldrmfb (fb0) is primary device
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: render error detected, EIR: 0x00000010
>   Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: page table error
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel:  PGTBL_ER: 0x00000100
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: [drm:i915_handle_error] *ERROR* EIR stuck: 0x00000010, masking
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: render error detected, EIR: 0x00000010
>   Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: page table error
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel:  PGTBL_ER: 0x00000100
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: [drm] LVDS-8: set mode 800x480 1c
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 100x30
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: registered panic notifier
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for 0000:00:02.0 on minor 0
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: modprobe used greatest stack depth: 4544 bytes left
    Oct 23 00:55:45 eee kernel: dracut: Starting plymouth daemon



From jwendel10 at comcast.net  Sat Oct 24 02:09:27 2009
From: jwendel10 at comcast.net (john wendel)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:09:27 -0700
Subject: F12 Beta Live-CD Fail [1]
In-Reply-To: <1256334994.2314.512.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4AE12419.7030706@comcast.net>	<1256273616.2314.507.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4AE1AACC.3040209@gmail.com>
	<1256334994.2314.512.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AE261D7.70504@comcast.net>

On 10/23/2009 02:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 07:08 -0600, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
>
>> Another tip for desktop hangs with ATI video cards (especially r600
>> cards and higher) is to add pcie_aspm=off


Problem box has a Nvidia TNT card. System boots fine into Level 3. 
startx brings up the splash screen with a busy cursor, then blanks the 
screen and hangs the system. F11 runs fine on the box.

John



From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Sat Oct 24 07:11:38 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:11:38 +1100
Subject: NetworkManager at odd with system connections
In-Reply-To: <200910230915.28434.gene@czarc.net>
References: 
	<200910230915.28434.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: 

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Gene Czarcinski  wrote:

> Yes, I was wondering how my host would function without eth0 being defined
> with
> a static IP or dhcp but it does ... it uses br0!
>
> removing BOOTPROTO from configuration didn't have any effect on the
original problem, but adding "NM_CONTROLLED=no", as in the
link you
gave, solved the problem.

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Jonathan Kamens <
jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us> wrote:
Might be related to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519208.

Jonathan, you had mentioned NM_CONTROLLED in your bug report as well, I'm
wondering why it didn't work for you. Are you on the latest rawhide?

Regards,
Masood
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From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:40:05 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091024 changes
Message-ID: <20091024124005.GA17105@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sat Oct 24 06:15:18 UTC 2009










Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



New package sblim-cim-client2
        Java CIM Client library
New package sblim-cmpi-fsvol
        SBLIM fsvol instrumentation
New package sblim-cmpi-nfsv4
        SBLIM nfsv4 instrumentation
New package sblim-cmpi-sysfs
        SBLIM sysfs instrumentation
New package sblim-gather
        SBLIM Gatherer
New package sblim-tools-libra
        SBLIM Common Resource Access Library for WBEM-SMT tasks
Updated Packages:

DeviceKit-power-012-1.fc12
--------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Richard Hughes  - 012-1
- Update to 012
- Detect encrypted swap and prevent hibernate in this case.
- When we do a delayed refresh, actually do 5 x 1 second apart rather
  than 1 x 3 seconds which should fix some slow battery devices.


Perlbal-1.70-4.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.70-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


PyAmanith-0.3.35-8.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.3.35-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


PyKDE-3.16.3-2.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.16.3-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


PyQuante-1.6.3-2.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.6.3-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


PySBIG-0.04-5.fc12
------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.04-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


PySolFC-1.1-9.fc12
------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.1-9
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


PySolFC-cardsets-1.1-5.2
------------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.1-5.2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


anaconda-12.39-1.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Peter Jones  - 12.39-1
- More udev fixups for device-mapper and cryptsetup temp devices. (dlehman)
  (#526699)
- Use rpm to determine how to set bootloader args and default runlevel
  (clumens) (#527520)
- Handle more than x.y version numbers in 'make bumpver'. (dcantrell)
- Mark live device as protected instead of ignoring it. (dlehman) (#517260)
- Don't force logical with a free primary slot and an extended. (dlehman)
  (#527952)
- Write LAYER2 and PORTNO correctly as parts of OPTIONS to ifcfg for s390x
  (Steffen Maier)
- liveinst: deactivate mdraid arrays before running liveinst (hansg)
  (#528235)


corosync-1.1.2-1.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 1.1.2-1
- New upstream release fixes major regression on specific loads


eclipse-findbugs-1.3.9-2.fc12
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Jerry James  - 1.3.9-2
- Remove explicit versions from the manifest to match the symlinks (bz 530512)


eclipse-setools-3.3.5.1-3.fc12
------------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 3.3.5.1-3
- bump and tag to get the correct sources file in place

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 3.3.5.1-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild

* Thu Mar 05 2009 Dave Sugar  - 3.3.5.1-1
- Update to setools 3.3.5 release


environment-modules-3.2.7b-4.fc12
---------------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 3.2.7b-4
- Don't load bash init script when bash is running as "sh" (bug #529745)


eqntott-9.0-2.fc12
------------------

evolution-rss-0.1.4-5.fc12
--------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Lucian Langa  - 0.1.4-5
- add patch2 to fix loading of icons (gtk refuses to load icons with size 0)


farsight2-0.0.16-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Brian Pepple  - 0.0.16-1
- Update to 0.0.16.


fbreader-0.10.7-4.fc12
----------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Michel Salim  - 0.10.7-4
- Provide virtual packages for each available interface
- Use alternatives to select the user interface (see README.Fedora)


gdb-7.0-3.fc12
--------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Jan Kratochvil  - 7.0-3
- Support multiple directories for `set debug-file-directory' (BZ 528668).


gdm-2.28.1-5.fc12
-----------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Ray Strode  2.28.1-5
- Remove tool tip from login button

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Ray Strode  2.28.1-4
- Fix autologin window spasms
- Fix autologin timer animation
- Make autologin and multistack play better together
- Add padding to notification tray

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Ray Strode  2.28.1-3
- Move date from panel to clock tooltip

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Ray Strode  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Ray Strode  2.28.1-2
- Move shutdown functions to panel from login window


git-1.6.5.1-1.fc12
------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Todd Zullinger  - 1.6.5.1-1
- git-1.6.5.1

* Sun Oct 11 2009 Todd Zullinger  - 1.6.5-1
- git-1.6.5


gnome-desktop-2.28.1-2.fc12
---------------------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1, translation updates

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-2
- Support proper gamma setting in multihead setups


gnome-screensaver-2.28.0-5.fc12
-------------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-4
- Fix crashes and malfunctions in dynamic multihead situations

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-5
- Make the dialog ask to be killed after 5 attempts

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-2
- Use xrandr for gamma fading, if available, to fix fading in
  multihead setups

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-3
- Fix an oversight in the previous patch


gnome-session-2.28.0-2.fc12
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Matthias Clasen   - 2.28.0-2
- Avoid a crash on certain xsmp error conditions


gnome-utils-2.28.1-2.fc12
-------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1:2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1:2.28.1-2
- Fix the gsearchtool spinner


gtk2-2.18.3-11.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.3-10
- Tweak tooltip positioning
- Make new tooltip style an opt-in theme choice

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Matthew Barnes  - 2.18.3-11
- Fix a GtkIconView hang


gtk2-engines-2.18.4-4.fc12
--------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.4-4
- Make Clearlooks opt-in to new tooltips style

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.4-3
- Tweak tooltip appearance


ibus-anthy-1.2.0.20090917-2.fc12
--------------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Takao Fujiwara  - 1.2.0.20090917-2
- Fix bug 526881 - ibus-anthy backtrace is reported by the latest abrt


icoutils-0.28.0-1.fc12
----------------------

iksemel-1.4-1.fc12
------------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.4-1
- Update to 1.4
- Apply patch from upstream so that gnutls autoconf works.
- Update gcrypt-sha patch so that it applies.

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


kernel-2.6.31.5-96.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Chuck Ebbert 
- Linux 2.6.31.5

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Dave Airlie  2.6.31.5-94
- disable debug + stackprotector

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Dave Airlie  2.6.31.5-95
- re enable MSI

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Kyle McMartin  2.6.31.5-96
- Bump NR_CPUS to 256 on x86_64.
- Add two backports (ugh, just had to go renaming perf counters to events...)
  for fixing sysprof with perf.

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Dave Airlie   2.6.31.5-91.rc1
- kms: fix palette

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Chuck Ebbert 
- Fix exploitable OOPS in keyring code. (CVE-2009-3624)
- Fix kernel memory leak to userspace. (CVE-2009-3612)

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Chuck Ebbert 
- Linux 2.6.31.5-rc1
- Remove the merged HP DC7900 workaround from iommu-updates patch.
- Drop merged patch:
  linux-2.6-raidlockdep.patch

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Chuck Ebbert 
- Disable powersave by default for AC97 audio devices. (#524414)

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Kyle McMartin 
- af_unix-fix-deadlock-connecting-to-shutdown-socket.patch: fix for
  rhbz#529626.

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Chuck Ebbert 
- Replace linux-2.6-bluetooth-autosuspend.diff with upstream version.


kpackagekit-0.5.0.1-1.fc12
--------------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Steven M. Parrish  - 0.5.0.1-1
- Official 0.5.0.1 release
- Includes patch to fix (#469375) default/none issue


nfs-utils-1.2.0-17.fc12
-----------------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Steve Dickson  1.2.0-17
- Updated to the latest pseudo root release (rel7).
- Added upstream 1.2.1-rc7 patch which fixes:
   - Stop ignoring the -o v4 option (bz 529407)
   - Allow network protocol roll backs when proto is set
      in the config file (bz 529864)


nickle-2.69-2.fc12
------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Michel Salim  - 2.69-2
- Lower FORTIFY setting; level 2 does not work with gcc 4.4.2

* Fri Sep 18 2009 Michel Salim  - 2.69-1
- Update to 2.69

* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.68-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


notification-daemon-0.4.1-0.20090923.4.fc12
-------------------------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 0.4.1-1.20090923.4
- Don't abort if gnome-screensaver is not running (#529592)


olpc-kbdshim-7-2.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Milos Jakubicek  - 7.2
- Fix FTBFS: use %{ix86} instead of i586 as ExclusiveArch

* Mon Jul 27 2009 Paul Fox 
- 7-1
- fix touchpad rotation for F-11, which includes X11 amd/geode
  driver that fixes the earlier rotation direction issue. 
  (2.11.x and later are fixed.)
- revise Makefile for easier pre-release management

* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 6-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


openscada-0.6.4-4.fc12
----------------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Peter Lemenkov  - 0.6.4-4
- Fixed the last broken dep


perl-HTML-Parser-3.63-2.fc12
----------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Warren Togami  - 3.63-2
- 3.63 CVE-2009-3627


perl-PPI-1.206-1.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1.206-1
- new upstream version
- update build requires


python-psyco-1.6-4.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Milos Jakubicek  - 1.6-4
- Fix FTBFS: Use %{ix86} instead of i586 in ExclusiveArch

* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.6-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


sabayon-2.28.0-2.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Dan Walsh  - 2.28.0-2
- Move errors to sabayon-apply package
- Only trap Exception on sabayon-apply error


sane-backends-1.0.20-10.fc12
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 1.0.20-8
- ship adapted udev rules from F-12 on (#512516)
- don't require pam anymore

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 1.0.20-9
- fix device file ownership and mode

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 1.0.20-10
- don't set owner, group or mode as this may interfere with setting ACLs


snake-0.11-0.18.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Milos Jakubicek  - 0.11-0.18
- Fix FTBFS: bump release to be able to tag in new branch

* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.11-0.17
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


sssd-0.7.0-1.fc12
-----------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.7.0-1
- New upstream release 0.7.0


telepathy-farsight-0.0.12-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Brian Pepple  - 0.0.12-1
- Update to 0.0.12.


towhee-6.2.6-4.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 6.2.6-4
- Fix FTBFS problem caused by behaviour change of openmpi.

* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 6.2.6-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


unetbootin-0-6.358bzr.fc12
--------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Milos Jakubicek  0-6.358bzr
- Fix FTBFS: bump release to be able to tag in new branch and sync source name

* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0-6.357bzr
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


valgrind-3.5.0-6
----------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Jakub Jelinek  3.5.0-6
- ppc and ppc64 fixes

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Jakub Jelinek  3.5.0-5
- add emulation of 0x67 prefixed loop* insns on x86_64 (#530165)

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Jakub Jelinek  3.5.0-4
- handle reading of .debug_frame in addition to .eh_frame
- ignore unknown DWARF3 expressions in evaluate_trivial_GX
- suppress helgrind race errors in helgrind's own mythread_wrapper
- fix compilation of x86 tests on x86_64 and ppc tests

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Jakub Jelinek  3.5.0-3
- handle many more DW_OP_* ops that GCC now uses
- handle the more compact form of DW_AT_data_member_location
- don't strip .debug_loc etc. from valgrind binaries

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Jakub Jelinek  3.5.0-2
- add STT_GNU_IFUNC support (Dodji Seketeli, #518247)
- wrap inotify_init1 syscall (Dodji Seketeli, #527198)
- fix mmap/mprotect handling in memcheck (KDE#210268)


Summary:
Added Packages: 6
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 47



From mike at miketc.net  Sat Oct 24 13:37:13 2009
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:37:13 -0500
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
Message-ID: <1256391433.5962.1.camel@localhost>

On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 13:38 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote:
> I've just installed F12beta (x86_64) in a KVM virtual machine without
> problems. When trying to update through System->Administration->Software
> Update it failed because of a missing dependency. Not really a surprise
> there. I then update through a yum update --skip-broken, that worked.
> 
> Is there a way to do a '--skip-broken' via de gui updater? That would be
> a really useful feature. Now you have to find the misbehaving package(s)
> and deselect them before you can do a update. To longer the list of
> updates...

Can't you just uncheck the box to the package that is causing the
problem? But I guess if you have more than one that can be time
consuming?


-- 
Mike Chambers
Madisonville, KY

"Best lil town on Earth!"



From mefoster at gmail.com  Sat Oct 24 14:06:02 2009
From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:06:02 +0100
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: <1256391433.5962.1.camel@localhost>
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
	<1256391433.5962.1.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: 

2009/10/24 Mike Chambers :
> On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 13:38 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote:
>> Is there a way to do a '--skip-broken' via de gui updater? That would be
>> a really useful feature. Now you have to find the misbehaving package(s)
>> and deselect them before you can do a update. To longer the list of
>> updates...
>
> Can't you just uncheck the box to the package that is causing the
> problem? But I guess if you have more than one that can be time
> consuming?

In theory, yes, but the most recent time this happened it was in a the
middle of over 100 total updates (rawhide), many of which had similar
names (it was xorg-x11-something that was causing the problem), so I
just resorted to yum --skip-broken instead of scrolling through the
massive list to un-check one of them.

MEF

-- 
Mary Ellen Foster -- http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/~mef3/
Interaction Lab -- http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/InteractionLab
School of Mathematical and Computer Sciences, Heriot-Watt University

Heriot-Watt University is a Scottish charity registered under charity
number SC000278



From the.masch at gmail.com  Sat Oct 24 14:07:41 2009
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:07:41 -0200
Subject: F12 Beta Live-CD Fail [1]
In-Reply-To: <4AE261D7.70504@comcast.net>
References: <4AE12419.7030706@comcast.net>
	<1256273616.2314.507.camel@adam.local.net> 
	<4AE1AACC.3040209@gmail.com> <1256334994.2314.512.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4AE261D7.70504@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <93d66b780910240707ub6ebcaame42a0503f02414c5@mail.gmail.com>

I have a similar problem using GeForce 7950 GT. I can login and use the OS
from 20 to 30 minutes and then blanks the screen and hangs the systems. It
seems is an issue with novueau(
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530520) driver, I can't use my
machine and I don't get any help.... :(

I want to use my machine !!!... :(


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:09 AM, john wendel  wrote:

> On 10/23/2009 02:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 07:08 -0600, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
>>
>>  Another tip for desktop hangs with ATI video cards (especially r600
>>> cards and higher) is to add pcie_aspm=off
>>>
>>
>
> Problem box has a Nvidia TNT card. System boots fine into Level 3. startx
> brings up the splash screen with a busy cursor, then blanks the screen and
> hangs the system. F11 runs fine on the box.
>
> John
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
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> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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From jameshubbard at gmail.com  Sat Oct 24 14:17:08 2009
From: jameshubbard at gmail.com (James Hubbard)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:17:08 -0400
Subject: F12 Beta Firefox Spell Check
Message-ID: 

After installing F12 Beta, spell checking stopped working.  I created
a new profile and it still didn't work.  I fixed it by getting a US
english dictionary from Mozilla.

-- 
James Hubbard
http://soweva.blogspot.com



From awilliam at redhat.com  Sat Oct 24 15:48:04 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:48:04 -0700
Subject: F12 Beta Live-CD Fail [1]
In-Reply-To: <93d66b780910240707ub6ebcaame42a0503f02414c5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AE12419.7030706@comcast.net>
	<1256273616.2314.507.camel@adam.local.net> <4AE1AACC.3040209@gmail.com>
	<1256334994.2314.512.camel@adam.local.net> <4AE261D7.70504@comcast.net>
	<93d66b780910240707ub6ebcaame42a0503f02414c5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256399284.2314.525.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 12:07 -0200, Mario Chacon wrote:
> I have a similar problem using GeForce 7950 GT. I can login and use 

NVIDIA TNT and 7950 GT == almost certainly not the same problem, given
there's about 7 years of difference in the hardware.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Sat Oct 24 15:48:23 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:48:23 -0700
Subject: F12 Beta Live-CD Fail [1]
In-Reply-To: <4AE261D7.70504@comcast.net>
References: <4AE12419.7030706@comcast.net>
	<1256273616.2314.507.camel@adam.local.net> <4AE1AACC.3040209@gmail.com>
	<1256334994.2314.512.camel@adam.local.net> <4AE261D7.70504@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1256399303.2314.526.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 19:09 -0700, john wendel wrote:
> On 10/23/2009 02:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 07:08 -0600, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
> >
> >> Another tip for desktop hangs with ATI video cards (especially r600
> >> cards and higher) is to add pcie_aspm=off
> 
> 
> Problem box has a Nvidia TNT card. System boots fine into Level 3. 
> startx brings up the splash screen with a busy cursor, then blanks the 
> screen and hangs the system. F11 runs fine on the box.

Can you do the above, then boot back to level 3 and take a copy
of /var/log/Xorg.0.log for us to look at? Thanks.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From michal at harddata.com  Sat Oct 24 16:14:37 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:14:37 -0600
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
	<1256391433.5962.1.camel@localhost>
	
Message-ID: <20091024161437.GB28232@mail.harddata.com>

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 03:06:02PM +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> (it was xorg-x11-something that was causing the problem)

Quite likely xorg-x11-proto-devel.noarch.  It needs newer
libXxf86dga-devel and that is missing.  See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530449

   Michal



From tom.horsley at att.net  Sat Oct 24 19:29:10 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:29:10 +0000
Subject: No virtualization on beta DVD image?
Message-ID: <102420091929.17100.4AE355860004D6E1000042CC22216125569B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>

I'm absolutely positive I included the "Virtualization" package group
when I installed from the x86_64 F12 Beta DVD image, yet there is no
libvirtd listed in chkconfig. I see I have virt-viewer and virt-manager
installed, but no libvirtd.

I also didn't have bridge-utils, which I would have thought would be
necessary for libvirtd.

Anyway, I'm off to "yum groupinstall Virtualization" and see if things
get better :-).



From awilliam at redhat.com  Sat Oct 24 19:35:45 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:35:45 -0700
Subject: No virtualization on beta DVD image?
In-Reply-To: <102420091929.17100.4AE355860004D6E1000042CC22216125569B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>
References: <102420091929.17100.4AE355860004D6E1000042CC22216125569B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>
Message-ID: <1256412945.2314.530.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 19:29 +0000, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I'm absolutely positive I included the "Virtualization" package group
> when I installed from the x86_64 F12 Beta DVD image, yet there is no
> libvirtd listed in chkconfig. I see I have virt-viewer and virt-manager
> installed, but no libvirtd.
> 
> I also didn't have bridge-utils, which I would have thought would be
> necessary for libvirtd.
> 
> Anyway, I'm off to "yum groupinstall Virtualization" and see if things
> get better :-).

Has already been reported and fixed. libvirt wasn't in the
Virtualization group.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From tom.horsley at att.net  Sat Oct 24 19:40:49 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:40:49 -0400
Subject: No virtualization on beta DVD image?
In-Reply-To: <1256412945.2314.530.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <102420091929.17100.4AE355860004D6E1000042CC22216125569B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>
	<1256412945.2314.530.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20091024154049.064c97f4@zooty>

On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:35:45 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:

> Has already been reported and fixed. libvirt wasn't in the
> Virtualization group.

Yep, the groupinstall worked, so it must be listed in the
Virtualization group in the current repos (I see it also
installed qemu-img and a few other things).



From mark.preston at bellsouth.net  Sat Oct 24 19:57:11 2009
From: mark.preston at bellsouth.net (mark preston)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:57:11 -0400
Subject: F12 beta, kde and arrow keys
Message-ID: <4AE35C17.5090207@bellsouth.net>

Has anyone had a problem with KDE having the arrow keys as hot?  I'm a 
heavy console bash shell user and i'm not able to recall command lines 
or edit them with the arrow keys?  The up arrow causes ksnaphot to pop 
up, very annoying

cheers
m.



From michal at harddata.com  Sat Oct 24 21:30:40 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:30:40 -0600
Subject: Common_F12_bugs and acroread
Message-ID: <20091024213040.GA12133@mail.harddata.com>

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#adobe-reader-fail
says "Current releases of Adobe Reader do not run by default on
Fedora 12".  It looks to me that this information is already
obsolete.  At least AdobeReader_enu-9.2-1.i486 appears to be running
"out-of-the-box".  I tried that on x86_64 installation.  This indeed
was not the case for AdobeReader_enu-9.1.3-1.i486 where
'GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1' was required.

   Michal



From bruno at wolff.to  Sat Oct 24 21:35:35 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:35:35 -0500
Subject: environment-modules 3.2.7b-4.fc12 should get reverted or fixed
 before final
Message-ID: <20091024213535.GA32052@wolff.to>

environment-modules 3.2.7b-4.fc12 is preventing gdm from successfully running.
I have filed bug 530770 for this issue.



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Sat Oct 24 21:35:09 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:35:09 +0100
Subject: Fedora 12 Beta now available!
In-Reply-To: <1256046992.4242.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1256046992.4242.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0910241435n58409b4fx5c1266218b41ba8c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

> * Moblin graphical interface for netbooks - The Moblin graphical
> interface and applications are fully integrated thanks to Peter
> Robinson, a Fedora Project volunteer, and others. To use it, just
> install the Moblin Desktop Environment package group using yum or the
> graphical software management tools, and choose Moblin from the login
> manager. A F12 Moblin Fedora Remix (installable Live CD) will also be
> available.

I'm a little late to the Fedora 12 beta party (thanks to life for
getting in the way) as I was hoping to get a test LiveCD out right
after the beta but fashionably late here is the first cut of the
"Fedora Mini - Moblin" livecd based on todays rawhide. It has been
tested on a eee PC 901 and should work fine on Intel Atom based
netbooks. You mileage may vary on other platforms especially on non
Intel graphics cards.

Please let me know of feedback on the live cd and report bugs against
specific packages.

Enjoy....
http://fedora.roving-it.com/FedoraMoblin12-LiveCD.iso

I plan to do at least weekly test releases of the livecd in the lead
up to Fedora 12.

Cheers,
Peter



From bruno at wolff.to  Sat Oct 24 22:01:24 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:01:24 -0500
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: <20091024161437.GB28232@mail.harddata.com>
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
	<1256391433.5962.1.camel@localhost>
	
	<20091024161437.GB28232@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <20091024220124.GA3380@wolff.to>

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:14:37 -0600,
  Michal Jaegermann  wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 03:06:02PM +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> > (it was xorg-x11-something that was causing the problem)
> 
> Quite likely xorg-x11-proto-devel.noarch.  It needs newer
> libXxf86dga-devel and that is missing.  See
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530449

It's not missing, it's a conflict. I ended up uninstalling libXxf86dga-devel
to get the update. It might be that there is a missing obsoletes here.
(If libXxf86dga-devel's function is now provided by xorg-x11-proto-devel.)



From michal at harddata.com  Sat Oct 24 22:38:56 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:38:56 -0600
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: <20091024220124.GA3380@wolff.to>
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
	<1256391433.5962.1.camel@localhost>
	
	<20091024161437.GB28232@mail.harddata.com>
	<20091024220124.GA3380@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <20091024223856.GA20299@mail.harddata.com>

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 05:01:24PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:14:37 -0600,
>   Michal Jaegermann  wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 03:06:02PM +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> > > (it was xorg-x11-something that was causing the problem)
> > 
> > Quite likely xorg-x11-proto-devel.noarch.  It needs newer
> > libXxf86dga-devel and that is missing.  See
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530449
> 
> It's not missing, it's a conflict.

Missing is a suitable version of libXxf86dga-devel. That was
a shorthand and is said "newer".  You can find details in
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530449

   M.



From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Sun Oct 25 10:59:09 2009
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:59:09 +1100
Subject: A couple of issues with Fedora 12 Beta (BIOS and Radeon HD3450)
In-Reply-To: <1256347205.2314.520.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256317637.1927.19.camel@poytakone.lan>
	
	<1256347205.2314.520.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1256468349.3456.100.camel@moose.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 18:20 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 19:15 +0200, Vedran Mileti? wrote:
> 
> > > - I have a video card, which is identified as ATI Mobility Radeon HD
> > > 3450, with it the system hangs completely after a minute or two of
> > > desktop use. I can get the system working with either the nomodeset or
> > > the pcie_asm=off kernel parameters. Apparently it might be related to
> > > bug  or bug
> > > . My blog posting:
> > > .
> > 
> > I would bet on second bug. KMS bugs are very much card-specific, and
> > first is even reported on NVIDIA (comments on it are different bugs,
> > probably).
> 
> You're right, but unfortunately 517625 has built up a lot of momentum as
> being for the ATI pcie_aspm issue, and we probably won't be able to
> knock it back to being about Quentin's NVIDIA issue. So we'd better
> leave it that way for now. As pcie_aspm=off fixes it for Ville-Pekka,
> his bug is 517625. 528393 is for a bug (or possibly bugs) which aren't
> helped by pcie_aspm=off.
> 
> > > What do you think, should we maybe add something to the release notes
> > > about the Fedora 12 kernel possibly requiring BIOS updates on some
> > > systems? Is anyone else on the list seeing the BIOS issues I described?
> > > It seems like the Radeon HD problems are already being handled in
> > > Bugzilla, I'm just wondering whether my issue is the same as in bug
> > > #517625 or not.
> > 
> > I will let someone else answer this.
> 
> The pcie_aspm bug is documented on the Common Bugs page:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#radeon-pcie_aspm

I'm guessing that given you chipset is a 3450 that you'll be joining us
at bug #528593


Rodd





From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 25 11:38:56 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:38:56 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091025 changes
Message-ID: <20091025113856.GA2498@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sun Oct 25 06:15:11 UTC 2009










Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 25 11:59:39 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:29:39 +0530
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
Message-ID: <4AE43DAB.4090406@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/23/2009 05:08 PM, Jurgen Kramer wrote:
> I've just installed F12beta (x86_64) in a KVM virtual machine without
> problems. When trying to update through System->Administration->Software
> Update it failed because of a missing dependency. Not really a surprise
> there. I then update through a yum update --skip-broken, that worked.
> 
> Is there a way to do a '--skip-broken' via de gui updater? That would be
> a really useful feature. Now you have to find the misbehaving package(s)
> and deselect them before you can do a update. To longer the list of
> updates...

PackageKit already uses --skip-broken by default anyway. So the problem
was likely something like a conflict which cannot be detected before the
transaction (unlike a dependency failure) and hence would not be solved
via --skip-broken.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 25 12:00:55 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:30:55 +0530
Subject: F12 Beta Firefox Spell Check
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4AE43DF7.20004@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/24/2009 07:47 PM, James Hubbard wrote:
> After installing F12 Beta, spell checking stopped working.  I created
> a new profile and it still didn't work.  I fixed it by getting a US
> english dictionary from Mozilla.

Did any of the updates fix it yet? Have you reported it in bugzilla? If
not, please do.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 25 12:05:21 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:35:21 +0530
Subject: Common_F12_bugs and acroread
In-Reply-To: <20091024213040.GA12133@mail.harddata.com>
References: <20091024213040.GA12133@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <4AE43F01.40806@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/25/2009 03:00 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#adobe-reader-fail
> says "Current releases of Adobe Reader do not run by default on
> Fedora 12".  It looks to me that this information is already
> obsolete.  At least AdobeReader_enu-9.2-1.i486 appears to be running
> "out-of-the-box".  I tried that on x86_64 installation.  This indeed
> was not the case for AdobeReader_enu-9.1.3-1.i486 where
> 'GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1' was required.

Please get a Fedora account so that you can edit the wiki yourself. I
have noted this information now.

Rahul



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Sun Oct 25 13:42:39 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:42:39 -0600
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
Message-ID: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>

All:

Just loaded my laptop with F12 beta. I need VMware Workstation 7 Beta
(actually the October RC) running on it as well. I got as far as to be
able to manually compile the modules, thanks to several notes in the
VMware Communities lists. But I think something selinux related is
keeping Workstation from actually starting. I say that because the
installer sets off selinux flags left and right.

Anyone here found a magic incantation to make this combo work? I know
it's beta on top of beta, but it would be great to have this running.

If I could even just figure out how to get selinux into permissive mode,
I think that would do the trick.

Ideas?

Cheers,

Chris

--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw






From tom.horsley at att.net  Sun Oct 25 14:24:18 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:24:18 -0400
Subject: Tame the Gnome filesystem monster!
Message-ID: <20091025102418.6ab65a26@zooty>

A while back I was trying to find out how to keep my USB backup
drive from being automounted and my other unmounted partitions
out of the annoying GTK file browser. Thanks to this thread
on the linux-hotplug mailing list I discovered the answer:

http://www.spinics.net/lists/hotplug/msg02919.html

I created /etc/udev/rules.d/99-zzz-local.rules that looks like:

ENV{ID_FS_LABEL}=="BACKUP", ENV{DKD_PRESENTATION_HIDE}="1"

Repeat that line for each disk label you want hidden, and finally
things work the way they used to work before everything
decided to become so "helpful" :-).

Note: This is unique to Fedora 12 and DeviceKit-disks, previous
fedorum used hal (which needs different xml style gibberish).

I swear there is a huge market for a 600 page book named

"Linux: Make It Stop!"

(if only I knew how to write it :-).



From mclasen at redhat.com  Sun Oct 25 14:56:45 2009
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:56:45 -0400
Subject: Tame the Gnome filesystem monster!
In-Reply-To: <20091025102418.6ab65a26@zooty>
References: <20091025102418.6ab65a26@zooty>
Message-ID: <1256482605.1882.0.camel@planemask>

On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 10:24 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:

> 
> I swear there is a huge market for a 600 page book named
> 
> "Linux: Make It Stop!"
> 
> (if only I knew how to write it :-).

You are doing fine as far as misleading subject lines are concerned. 
:-)


Matthias



From bruno at wolff.to  Sun Oct 25 17:18:26 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:18:26 -0500
Subject: Common_F12_bugs and acroread
In-Reply-To: <4AE43F01.40806@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20091024213040.GA12133@mail.harddata.com>
	<4AE43F01.40806@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20091025171826.GA11937@wolff.to>

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 17:35:21 +0530,
  Rahul Sundaram  wrote:
> 
> Please get a Fedora account so that you can edit the wiki yourself. I
> have noted this information now.

Thanks for letting people know they can step up and do things yourself.
I thought of you yesterday when I found the Zodbot page was missing some
information from some functions in fedora plugin. Once upon a time I might
have complained on a list or filed a bug, but after getting prodded by you
several times in the past, my thinking is now I should just fix it up
myself. So you have made at least one convert (well mostly).



From fedoraproject at cyberpear.com  Sun Oct 25 18:22:08 2009
From: fedoraproject at cyberpear.com (James Cassell)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:22:08 -0400
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
Message-ID: 

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:42:39 -0400, Christopher A. Williams  
 wrote:

> Just loaded my laptop with F12 beta. I need VMware Workstation 7 Beta
[...]
>
> If I could even just figure out how to get selinux into permissive mode,
> I think that would do the trick.

to do this at runtime, you can
# setenforce 0

however, next time you reboot, it will be enforcing again.

>
> Ideas?

I run VMware Server on Fedora.  Putting SELinux in permissive mode was  
insufficient to get vmware to run.  I had to disable selinux entirely.
You can do this by editing /etc/selinux/config (you can also set in to  
permissive from there)


-- 
James Cassell



From dgboles at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 19:47:16 2009
From: dgboles at gmail.com (David)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:47:16 -0400
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	
Message-ID: <4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>

On 10/25/2009 2:22 PM, James Cassell wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:42:39 -0400, Christopher A. Williams
>  wrote:
> 
>> Just loaded my laptop with F12 beta. I need VMware Workstation 7 Beta
> [...]
>>
>> If I could even just figure out how to get selinux into permissive mode,
>> I think that would do the trick.
> 
> to do this at runtime, you can
> # setenforce 0
> 
> however, next time you reboot, it will be enforcing again.
> 
>>
>> Ideas?
> 
> I run VMware Server on Fedora.  Putting SELinux in permissive mode was
> insufficient to get vmware to run.  I had to disable selinux entirely.
> You can do this by editing /etc/selinux/config (you can also set in to
> permissive from there)


WOW! What a concept!

In order to run a closed source 3rd party application that is
misbehaving I will disable one of the very things that helps to protect
my system from misbehaving 3rd party applications.

-- 


  David

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From gene at czarc.net  Sun Oct 25 20:05:50 2009
From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:05:50 -0400
Subject: abrt
Message-ID: <200910251605.50543.gene@czarc.net>

Fedora 12 seems to have some good improvements as far as making it easy to 
report bugs (send reports to bugzilla).  For example, when an SELinux problem 
occurs, you can send a report to BZ using setroubleshoot ... it packages all 
the info, you feed it your BZ id and password and off the report goes ... neat!

Then there is the new abrt.  It is suppose to detect "application" crashes and 
then allow the user to report the problem ... great idea ... but ...

I may be missing something but documentation for abrt seems a bit light.  
Furthermore, I do not understand how problems are handled ... or maybe I have 
found some abrt bugs ... I don't know.

There are a lot of BZ reports against abrt but one that hits home to me is 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528395

Until I saw this report, I did not know that I would need to invoke abrt-gui 
as root to see a number of the reports.  This should be fixed!  A user should 
not need to su to root and then run abrt-gui from the command line to do 
reporting on things like kerneloops ... in fact, until you do this, you may be 
completely unaware of such problems.

I suggest that this be fixed BEFORE F12 is released!

Gene



From gene at czarc.net  Sun Oct 25 20:18:36 2009
From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:18:36 -0400
Subject: abrt
In-Reply-To: <200910251605.50543.gene@czarc.net>
References: <200910251605.50543.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <200910251618.36843.gene@czarc.net>

On Sunday 25 October 2009 16:05:50 Gene Czarcinski wrote:
> Fedora 12 seems to have some good improvements as far as making it easy to
> report bugs (send reports to bugzilla).  For example, when an SELinux
>  problem occurs, you can send a report to BZ using setroubleshoot ... it
>  packages all the info, you feed it your BZ id and password and off the
>  report goes ... neat!
> 
> Then there is the new abrt.  It is suppose to detect "application" crashes
>  and then allow the user to report the problem ... great idea ... but ...
> 
> I may be missing something but documentation for abrt seems a bit light.
> Furthermore, I do not understand how problems are handled ... or maybe I
>  have found some abrt bugs ... I don't know.
> 
> There are a lot of BZ reports against abrt but one that hits home to me is
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528395
> 
> Until I saw this report, I did not know that I would need to invoke
>  abrt-gui as root to see a number of the reports.  This should be fixed!  A
>  user should not need to su to root and then run abrt-gui from the command
>  line to do reporting on things like kerneloops ... in fact, until you do
>  this, you may be completely unaware of such problems.
> 
> I suggest that this be fixed BEFORE F12 is released!

Even more of a problem is that even if you do invoke abrt-gui as root, you 
still cannot report problems!

Gene



From caf at omen.com  Sun Oct 25 20:21:46 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:21:46 -0700
Subject: Rawhide Install Conflict
Message-ID: <4AE4B35A.9020101@omen.com>

Saturday's and today's rawhide installs have a conflict with the
X development system.  Unless the X development system is deselected,
install fails with a header file conflict.  The "details" information
does not indicate which packages are causing the conflict; this must
be divined by trial and error by deselecting packages until the conflict
goes away.

This affects both 32 and 64 bit flavors.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
   Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Sun Oct 25 20:59:37 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:59:37 -0600
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: <4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	  <4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>

On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 15:47 -0400, David wrote:
> On 10/25/2009 2:22 PM, James Cassell wrote:
> > On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:42:39 -0400, Christopher A. Williams
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> Just loaded my laptop with F12 beta. I need VMware Workstation 7 Beta
> > [...]
> >>
> >> If I could even just figure out how to get selinux into permissive mode,
> >> I think that would do the trick.
> > 
> > to do this at runtime, you can
> > # setenforce 0
> > 
> > however, next time you reboot, it will be enforcing again.
> > 
> >>
> >> Ideas?
> > 
> > I run VMware Server on Fedora.  Putting SELinux in permissive mode was
> > insufficient to get vmware to run.  I had to disable selinux entirely.
> > You can do this by editing /etc/selinux/config (you can also set in to
> > permissive from there)
> 
> 
> WOW! What a concept!
> 
> In order to run a closed source 3rd party application that is
> misbehaving I will disable one of the very things that helps to protect
> my system from misbehaving 3rd party applications.

First, thanks to James for helping me solve the problem. Switching to
permissive mode allowed Workstation to install and run without any
further problems.

Next, the *concept* is actually this:
We're running B-E-T-A software here. That means we must do things to
find out how ALL software works on it, regardless of its license. This
isn't a misbehaving 3rd party closed source application. It's a 3rd
party application which is making a request that the selinux targeted
policy doesn't know anything about. We switch to permissive mode to flag
the issue in selinux and then report it. The selinux people then are
able to troubleshoot and resolve the problem by updating the targeted
policy accordingly.

So - to the the selinux folks: The issue appears to be that VMware
Workstation 7 RC is requesting access to portrelease, which makes sense
when you think of how it needs to set up virtual networks. Looks like it
may also be happening in F11. The fix is to create a policy for this to
be allowed for this application.

I will try to collect the bug and file a BZ for it next opportunity.

Cheers,

Chris


--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From dgboles at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 21:33:56 2009
From: dgboles at gmail.com (David)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:33:56 -0400
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: <1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>	
	<4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>
	<1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
Message-ID: <4AE4C444.8050608@gmail.com>

On 10/25/2009 4:59 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 15:47 -0400, David wrote:
>> On 10/25/2009 2:22 PM, James Cassell wrote:
>>
>>
>> WOW! What a concept!
>>
>> In order to run a closed source 3rd party application that is
>> misbehaving I will disable one of the very things that helps to protect
>> my system from misbehaving 3rd party applications.
> 
> First, thanks to James for helping me solve the problem. Switching to
> permissive mode allowed Workstation to install and run without any
> further problems.
> 
> Next, the *concept* is actually this:
> We're running B-E-T-A software here. That means we must do things to
> find out how ALL software works on it, regardless of its license. This
> isn't a misbehaving 3rd party closed source application. It's a 3rd
> party application which is making a request that the selinux targeted
> policy doesn't know anything about. We switch to permissive mode to flag
> the issue in selinux and then report it. The selinux people then are
> able to troubleshoot and resolve the problem by updating the targeted
> policy accordingly.
> 
> So - to the the selinux folks: The issue appears to be that VMware
> Workstation 7 RC is requesting access to portrelease, which makes sense
> when you think of how it needs to set up virtual networks. Looks like it
> may also be happening in F11. The fix is to create a policy for this to
> be allowed for this application.
> 
> I will try to collect the bug and file a BZ for it next opportunity.


Simple example.

I lock my front door to protect my home and family. Every time I try to
unlock my front door it sticks. It is a new, untested lock. So I disable
the lock? Or adjust the locks behavior by asking for expert help?


I was referring to him and his solution. Not you. But then you agreed
with his solution.

The proper solution would be the Bugzilla report that you mentioned
and/or asking the nice folks (read experts here) on the Fedora SELinux
list for help and/or asking on the VMware forum instead of breaking the
lock and making it easy for all of the potential 'bad guys' to enter.

Your choice of course.

-- 


  David



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From mike at cchtml.com  Sun Oct 25 21:37:25 2009
From: mike at cchtml.com (Michael Cronenworth)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:37:25 -0500
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: <1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>	
	<4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>
	<1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
Message-ID: <4AE4C515.10800@cchtml.com>

On 10/25/2009 03:59 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> First, thanks to James for helping me solve the problem. Switching to
> permissive mode allowed Workstation to install and run without any
> further problems.
>
> Next, the *concept* is actually this:
> We're running B-E-T-A software here. That means we must do things to
> find out how ALL software works on it, regardless of its license. This
> isn't a misbehaving 3rd party closed source application. It's a 3rd
> party application which is making a request that the selinux targeted
> policy doesn't know anything about. We switch to permissive mode to flag
> the issue in selinux and then report it. The selinux people then are
> able to troubleshoot and resolve the problem by updating the targeted
> policy accordingly.
>
> So - to the the selinux folks: The issue appears to be that VMware
> Workstation 7 RC is requesting access to portrelease, which makes sense
> when you think of how it needs to set up virtual networks. Looks like it
> may also be happening in F11. The fix is to create a policy for this to
> be allowed for this application.
>
> I will try to collect the bug and file a BZ for it next opportunity.
>    

1) Switch to VirtualBox or KVM/QEMU. You'll notice a better experience 
immediately.

2) Filing a bug against SELinux for a VMWare bug will be closed. Fedora 
doesn't care about closed source binary software.



From fedoraproject at cyberpear.com  Sun Oct 25 21:40:56 2009
From: fedoraproject at cyberpear.com (James Cassell)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:40:56 -0400
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: <4AE4C444.8050608@gmail.com>
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	 <4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>
	<1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	<4AE4C444.8050608@gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:33:56 -0400, David  wrote:

> The proper solution would be the Bugzilla report that you mentioned
> and/or asking the nice folks (read experts here) on the Fedora SELinux
> list for help and/or asking on the VMware forum instead of breaking the
> lock and making it easy for all of the potential 'bad guys' to enter.

So, this is a valid thing for which to file a bug?  In the past, I have  
gotten negative feedback whenever I filed a bug that had to do with  
anything proprietary (e.g., nVidia driver.)  Tangentially related, is it  
valid for me to file a bug about the fedoraproject.org website not working  
in the proprietary Opera web browser?  (This is a larger annoyance to me  
than the SElinux and VMware problem.)

Thanks.

-- 
James Cassell



From bruno at wolff.to  Mon Oct 26 00:34:42 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:34:42 -0500
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	 <4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>
	<1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	<4AE4C444.8050608@gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <20091026003442.GA7613@wolff.to>

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 17:40:56 -0400,
  James Cassell  wrote:
> 
> So, this is a valid thing for which to file a bug?  In the past, I
> have gotten negative feedback whenever I filed a bug that had to do
> with anything proprietary (e.g., nVidia driver.)  Tangentially

You might file a bug with the provider of the software to request an
appropriate selinux module be delivered to the software.

> related, is it valid for me to file a bug about the
> fedoraproject.org website not working in the proprietary Opera web
> browser?  (This is a larger annoyance to me than the SElinux and
> VMware problem.)

Probably, but the question is with whom. If the web site is doing something
nonstandard, then it should be filed against the web page or the app used
to generate the web page. If the code is standard than you should probably
file a bug angainst Opera.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 00:38:16 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:38:16 -0700
Subject: Recap: blocker bug review meeting 2009-10-23
Message-ID: <1256517496.2314.544.camel@adam.local.net>

We held the first official blocker bug review meeting for Fedora 12
final release on Friday, 2009-10-23. Many thanks to James Laska, Jesse
Keating, Ray Strode, Matej Cepl, Denise Dumas, Justin Forbes, Bill
Nottingham, Edward Kirk, and Matthias Clasen for their contributions.

We ran through all 51 bugs on the blocker list at the time of the
meeting, accepting or dropping them as blockers and working to ensure
all remaining blockers are in the process of being fixed.

You can see a summary of the entire meeting, with the final decision on
each bug, at:

http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2009-10-23/fedora-bugzappers.2009-10-23-15.00.html

a full log of the meeting (warning: extremely long) is available at:

http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2009-10-23/fedora-bugzappers.2009-10-23-15.00.log.html

The next blocker review meeting will be next Friday, 2009-10-30, at
15:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers. Thanks again to all who contributed.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 26 01:28:37 2009
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:28:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: <4AE43DAB.4090406@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
	<4AE43DAB.4090406@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: 



On Sun, 25 Oct 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> On 10/23/2009 05:08 PM, Jurgen Kramer wrote:
>> I've just installed F12beta (x86_64) in a KVM virtual machine without
>> problems. When trying to update through System->Administration->Software
>> Update it failed because of a missing dependency. Not really a surprise
>> there. I then update through a yum update --skip-broken, that worked.
>>
>> Is there a way to do a '--skip-broken' via de gui updater? That would be
>> a really useful feature. Now you have to find the misbehaving package(s)
>> and deselect them before you can do a update. To longer the list of
>> updates...
>
> PackageKit already uses --skip-broken by default anyway. So the problem
> was likely something like a conflict which cannot be detected before the
> transaction (unlike a dependency failure) and hence would not be solved
> via --skip-broken.

file-conflicts can't be detected before the ts - but explicit conflicts 
can.

-sv



From dgboles at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 01:34:29 2009
From: dgboles at gmail.com (David)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:34:29 -0400
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>	
	<4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>	<1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>	<4AE4C444.8050608@gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4AE4FCA5.7000800@gmail.com>

On 10/25/2009 5:40 PM, James Cassell wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:33:56 -0400, David  wrote:
> 
>> The proper solution would be the Bugzilla report that you mentioned
>> and/or asking the nice folks (read experts here) on the Fedora SELinux
>> list for help and/or asking on the VMware forum instead of breaking the
>> lock and making it easy for all of the potential 'bad guys' to enter.
> 
> So, this is a valid thing for which to file a bug?  In the past, I have
> gotten negative feedback whenever I filed a bug that had to do with
> anything proprietary (e.g., nVidia driver.)  Tangentially related, is it
> valid for me to file a bug about the fedoraproject.org website not
> working in the proprietary Opera web browser?  (This is a larger
> annoyance to me than the SElinux and VMware problem.)


I can not speak about VMware Player. Beta or otherwise. I have never
used it. I don't have a need for it. If I needed a VM I would use
Virtualbox. If I had need of a Windows environment I would duel boot
Fedora and Windows.

As for 'Fedora 12 to-be' being a beta? I have used the rolling Fedora
alpha/beta named Rawhide for several years. Since Fedora Core 5 was in
development. I have always considered it more of a cutting edge than a
beta at any time during that development stage.

You do understand just why you got the "negative feedback" about Nvidia
correct? Since the code is no OSS they can not fix it or help you.
-- 


  David



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From jameshubbard at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 01:37:33 2009
From: jameshubbard at gmail.com (James Hubbard)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:37:33 -0400
Subject: F12 Beta Firefox Spell Check
In-Reply-To: <4AE43DF7.20004@fedoraproject.org>
References: 
	<4AE43DF7.20004@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: 

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Rahul Sundaram
 wrote:
> On 10/24/2009 07:47 PM, James Hubbard wrote:
>> After installing F12 Beta, spell checking stopped working. ?I created
>> a new profile and it still didn't work. ?I fixed it by getting a US
>> english dictionary from Mozilla.
>
> Did any of the updates fix it yet? Have you reported it in bugzilla? If
> not, please do.

None of the updates have worked.   I filed a bug.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530914



From fedoraproject at cyberpear.com  Mon Oct 26 01:38:00 2009
From: fedoraproject at cyberpear.com (James Cassell)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:38:00 -0400
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: <4AE4FCA5.7000800@gmail.com>
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	 <4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>
	<1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	<4AE4C444.8050608@gmail.com> 
	<4AE4FCA5.7000800@gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:34:29 -0400, David  wrote:

>
> You do understand just why you got the "negative feedback" about Nvidia
> correct? Since the code is no OSS they can not fix it or help you.

Of course I understand.  It just seemed to me that it was being suggested  
that I put a bug in the fedora bugzilla about the SELinux error having to  
do with VMware, which is why I brought it up.

-- 
James Cassell



From dgboles at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 01:58:34 2009
From: dgboles at gmail.com (David)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:58:34 -0400
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>	
	<4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>	<1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>	<4AE4C444.8050608@gmail.com>
		<4AE4FCA5.7000800@gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4AE5024A.1090107@gmail.com>

On 10/25/2009 9:38 PM, James Cassell wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:34:29 -0400, David  wrote:
> 
>>
>> You do understand just why you got the "negative feedback" about Nvidia
>> correct? Since the code is no OSS they can not fix it or help you.
> 
> Of course I understand.  It just seemed to me that it was being
> suggested that I put a bug in the fedora bugzilla about the SELinux
> error having to do with VMware, which is why I brought it up.


Fair enough. A misunderstanding.

My guess(es) here would be:

Fedora Bugzilla will not solve anything. The bug will probably just be
closed since it can not be fixed by Fedora.

The SELinux list *might* at least get you enough instructions to write
an 'exception' rule. There is a different name for this but I can recall
it at the moment.

Vmware has their own Bugzilla. I just looked for it. I would think that
there would be the place to report this. I would think that this is a
bug that they would fix. Or at least offer a 'do this' fix for the user
to apply.

Good luck.
-- 


  David

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From jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us  Mon Oct 26 02:50:22 2009
From: jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:50:22 -0400
Subject: NetworkManager at odd with system connections
In-Reply-To: 
References: 	<200910230915.28434.gene@czarc.net>
	
Message-ID: <4AE50E6E.5020506@kamens.brookline.ma.us>

On 10/24/2009 03:11 AM, Masood wrote:
> Jonathan, you had mentioned NM_CONTROLLED in your bug report as well, 
> I'm wondering why it didn't work for you. Are you on the latest rawhide?
Yes.



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Mon Oct 26 05:29:24 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:29:24 -0600
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: <20091026003442.GA7613@wolff.to>
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	 <4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>
	<1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	<4AE4C444.8050608@gmail.com> 
	<20091026003442.GA7613@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <1256534964.2530.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 19:34 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 17:40:56 -0400,
>   James Cassell  wrote:
> > 
> > So, this is a valid thing for which to file a bug?  In the past, I
> > have gotten negative feedback whenever I filed a bug that had to do
> > with anything proprietary (e.g., nVidia driver.)  Tangentially
> 
> You might file a bug with the provider of the software to request an
> appropriate selinux module be delivered to the software.

At last! Amongst all of the anti-proprietary / anti-VMware vitriol, a
real suggestion that is both reasonable and realistic. Thank you...!

No - I will NOT switch to VirtualBox. No, I disagree that it provides a
superior experience, and I base that on my own personal experience using
it regularly. It's a decent desktop virtualization tool, but it is _not_
better. Oh, and to those needing USB support, VirtualBox OSE from
RPMFusion.org isn't going to cut it for you. You will need the full
proprietary version and do a little magic in the setup for USB to work.

Similarly, for QEMU/KVM. The thread about it happening right now is
evidence enough of the "experiences" I have had with it as well. This is
a product that I am cheering for in the background, but it not soup yet.

I do virtual environments for a living day in and day out, using several
platforms (VMware, VirtualBox, KVM, ...). There's a professional reason
I need to get Workstation running on F12. Now I have it started.

There's a reason why VMware also has 89% of the Intel virtualization
market and growing (according to Gartner). They really are that far
ahead, and unlike some proprietary companies, they haven't cheated to
get that market share...

Cheers,

Chris


-- 
======================
"Only two things are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."

-- Albert Einstein





From arvliet at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 05:47:56 2009
From: arvliet at gmail.com (Andrew Vliet)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:47:56 +0000
Subject: New BugZapper Introduction
Message-ID: <1256536076.3733.167.camel@cadmium.vlietwerkz.ca>

Hello all,

Pending my membership approval of course, I'm sending this e-mail as per
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Joining#How_to_Sign_Up

Name:
	Andrew Vliet

IRC Nick:
	arvliet
Skype:
	arvliet
MSN:
	andrew_vliet (at) hotmail (dot) com
XMPP:
	arvliet (at) gmail (dot) com

Experience (Fedora):
	I've been using Fedora since the release of Fedora 10 as an OS for
laptop, server, desktop, and remotely serviceable client machines in
both English and Portugu?s.  I've been seeing great potential in it,
plan to keep using it, and would like to show my gratitude by helping
push the project forward.  

Beyond Fedora, I was a software tester a few years ago for a proprietary
cross platform unified authentication suite.  I've been, an in-house
Windows programmer, Network Administrator for big oil, and System
Administrator for several different sectors.  During the past 10 years,
before, during, and after the aforementioned jobs, I have been doing
System admin and contracting for small / medium businesses.  The current
focus is on complete, managed office solutions, cross platform
integrations, and office automation / computerized solutions.  

Granted, I don't play a lot of games, but that said - five years ago, I
went Windows-less on my personal network, and haven't looked back.  My
business equipment is mostly Linux and FOSS save for the no-other-option
support, devel, and troubleshooting units.  

I've been a FOSS supporter and promoter from the good ol' days of
Mandrake Linux ?3.2? when I put it on my Toshiba 430 CDS.  Took me
nearly a week to download on 28.8 dial-up and another 3 days to install,
but /damn/ it was wicked cool.  More recently I have been implementing
solutions such as OpenOffice.org, Clam, IPS, Checkpoint, SAMBA, FTP,
Apache, OpenVPN, Citrix, Windows Server 2003, BIND, FreeSwitch,
softphones, off site data backup, etc.  Basically anything that will fit
the business requirements, so - all sorts of good stuff.  

Personal:
	I live in the great frozen north (Canada).  Have a thing for ethics and
the teachings of Tenzin Gyatso in particular.  Ride motorbike(s) -
anything with 2 wheels and a motor is fair game.  Grew up climbing
mountains untethered, shooting big guns, fixing old cars, and horse
packing into the back country for fun.  Prefer spicy, foreign, and
vegetarian food.  Married a beautiful Brazilian woman from the Amazon
jungle.  Yes I've been there - the frogs are oh-so-pretty, but please
don't touch them.  Have a soft spot for small(ish) children and animals.
Long to get my pilot's licence with IFR and twin turbine ratings so I
can buy that Citation I've been eyeing.  Will accept cash in lieu of
praise and glory.  Have an "odd" sense of humour and even my closest
friends think I'm weird - don't take me too seriously.  

Hope to start workin', contributin', and spendin' lots of late nights
drinking way too much coffee with y'all soon.

Cheers,
Andrew

---

My own dear love, he is strong and bold And he cares not what comes
after. His words ring sweet as a chime of gold, And his eyes are lit
with laughter. He is jubilant as a flag unfurled -- Oh, a girl, she'd
not forget him. My own dear love, he is all my world -- And I wish I'd
never met him. -- Dorothy Parker, part 1



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 06:04:59 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:04:59 -0400
Subject: New BugZapper Introduction
In-Reply-To: <1256536076.3733.167.camel@cadmium.vlietwerkz.ca>
References: <1256536076.3733.167.camel@cadmium.vlietwerkz.ca>
Message-ID: <20091026060459.GA10461@blackhare>

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 05:47:56AM +0000, Andrew Vliet wrote:



Hello Andrew, welcome to the group! I will approve your group membership in a
second. We've just updated the list of components which we'd like
BugZappers to work on as a priority, so there's lots available. The list
is:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Components_and_Triagers

we'd recommend you pick a component from that list that you feel
comfortable working on, then contact its maintainer to say you'll be
working on triaging it, and ask if they have any tips or special
requests. Then read:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Tools
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/FindingBugs
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/How_to_Triage
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/FindingDuplicates
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/StockBugzillaResponses

To see how the process works (I know that looks like a lot of pages, but
several of them are pretty short, and they all work together). Please do
join #fedora-bugzappers and ask if you have any questions or problems,
there's usually another team member around who can help you out. Thanks
a lot for volunteering your time! Do come out to the next meeting -
they're Tuesdays at 15:00 UTC - if you have the time, and we can welcome
you there.

Edward Kirk (irc tk009)



From no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org  Mon Oct 26 06:09:40 2009
From: no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org (=?UTF-8?B?dG9kZGJhaWxleQ==?=)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:09:40 +0100
Subject: F12 Beta install issue
Message-ID: <0e2b2981ae617dfd44172ab40efb286d@fcp.surfsite.org>

So I have a pII 400 mhx w/ 256m memory

Because it's a dinosaur, installing beta not a problem, for testing.

it complained that it could do a graphical install.
And with out this tool I may not be able to configure networking properly

Assistance is requested to force the install the gnome environment.

suggestions--

thanks


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From joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de  Mon Oct 26 07:20:36 2009
From: joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de (Joachim Backes)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:20:36 +0100
Subject: system-config-display in F12 Beta fails with nouveau/Nvidia FX5200
Message-ID: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de>

I installed F12 Beta from scratch, and X11 was installed on my 1280x1024 
screen correctly (Video card Nvidia FX5200) with the nouveau driver.

Now I tried to install a new xorg.conf by using system-config-display 
(for experimental reasons), but it failed with and without the 
--reconfig option.

Somebody made similar experiences?

1. lspci -vv
------------

02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 
5200] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- 
SERR- 
	Kernel driver in use: nouveau
	Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidiafb

2. Xorg.setup.log
-----------------
X.Org X Server 1.7.0
Release Date: 2009-10-2
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System:  2.6.18-164.el5
Current Operating System: Linux eule1 2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP 
Tue Sep 29 16:16:16 EDT 2009 i686
Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/F12  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 
SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=de-latin1-nodeadkeys 
rhgb quiet
Build Date: 05 October 2009  12:36:49AM
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.7.0-1.fc12
Current version of pixman: 0.16.2
	Before reporting problems, check http://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(++) Log file: "/dev/null", Time: Mon Oct 26 08:02:26 2009
(++) Using config file: "/tmp/tmpfcqchBxorg.config"
The PCI device has a kernel module claiming it.
This driver cannot operate until it has been unloaded
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found


Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
	 at http://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/
  for help.
Please also check the log file at "/dev/null" for additional information.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Kind regards

Joachim Backes

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From johannbg at hi.is  Mon Oct 26 08:18:55 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:18:55 +0000
Subject: system-config-display in F12 Beta fails with nouveau/Nvidia
	FX5200
In-Reply-To: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
References: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
Message-ID: <4AE55B6F.3050201@hi.is>

On 10/26/2009 07:20 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> I installed F12 Beta from scratch, and X11 was installed on my
> 1280x1024 screen correctly (Video card Nvidia FX5200) with the nouveau
> driver.
>
> Now I tried to install a new xorg.conf by using system-config-display
> (for experimental reasons), but it failed with and without the
> --reconfig option.
>
> Somebody made similar experiences?
>

I have seen some [DRM] complaint during boot up on my laptop that has
Nvidia Quadro FX 570M does not grind the machine to halt thou..

Did it work correctly without an xorg.conf and you decided to create one
for the fun of it or did it not work after install and you were forced
to create an xorg.conf to circumvent the problem?  ( Note you should not
need to create a xorg.conf file )

JBG
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From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 26 08:45:36 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:15:36 +0530
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>	
	<4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>	<1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>	<4AE4C444.8050608@gmail.com>
		<4AE4FCA5.7000800@gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4AE561B0.7070308@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/26/2009 07:08 AM, James Cassell wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:34:29 -0400, David  wrote:
> 
>>
>> You do understand just why you got the "negative feedback" about Nvidia
>> correct? Since the code is no OSS they can not fix it or help you.
> 
> Of course I understand.  It just seemed to me that it was being
> suggested that I put a bug in the fedora bugzilla about the SELinux
> error having to do with VMware, which is why I brought it up.

James,

SELinux policy in Fedora has a number of workarounds to enable common
software to run. Some of the issues cannot be resolved easily without
reducing the overall security considerably. It is hard to say without
seeing the AVC messages from /var/log/audit.  If you will file a bug
report, the SELinux policy maintainer, Dan Walsh can look into it.  I do
recommend filing it anyway.

Rahul



From joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de  Mon Oct 26 09:20:35 2009
From: joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de (Joachim Backes)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:20:35 +0100
Subject: system-config-display in F12 Beta fails with
	nouveau/Nvidia	FX5200
In-Reply-To: <4AE55B6F.3050201@hi.is>
References: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <4AE55B6F.3050201@hi.is>
Message-ID: <4AE569E3.8020300@rhrk.uni-kl.de>

On 10/26/2009 09:18 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 07:20 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> I installed F12 Beta from scratch, and X11 was installed on my
>> 1280x1024 screen correctly (Video card Nvidia FX5200) with the nouveau
>> driver.
>>
>> Now I tried to install a new xorg.conf by using system-config-display
>> (for experimental reasons), but it failed with and without the
>> --reconfig option.
>>
>> Somebody made similar experiences?
>>
>
> I have seen some [DRM] complaint during boot up on my laptop that has
> Nvidia Quadro FX 570M does not grind the machine to halt thou..
>
> Did it work correctly without an xorg.conf and you decided to create one
> for the fun of it or did it not work after install and you were forced
> to create an xorg.conf to circumvent the problem?  ( Note you should not
> need to create a xorg.conf file )
>
Hi JBG,

as I told in my previous email, it came up correctly when I installed 
F12 Beta without changes.

It did not work correctly when trying to create for fun a new xorg.conf 
(I wanted to test a reduced resolution 1024x768).

Regards

Joachim Backes

-- 

Joachim Backes 

http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes


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From johannbg at hi.is  Mon Oct 26 09:57:28 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:57:28 +0000
Subject: system-config-display in F12 Beta fails
	with	nouveau/Nvidia	FX5200
In-Reply-To: <4AE569E3.8020300@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
References: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <4AE55B6F.3050201@hi.is>
	<4AE569E3.8020300@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
Message-ID: <4AE57288.7010101@hi.is>

On 10/26/2009 09:20 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 09:18 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>> On 10/26/2009 07:20 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>>> I installed F12 Beta from scratch, and X11 was installed on my
>>> 1280x1024 screen correctly (Video card Nvidia FX5200) with the nouveau
>>> driver.
>>>
>>> Now I tried to install a new xorg.conf by using system-config-display
>>> (for experimental reasons), but it failed with and without the
>>> --reconfig option.
>>>
>>> Somebody made similar experiences?
>>>
>>
>> I have seen some [DRM] complaint during boot up on my laptop that has
>> Nvidia Quadro FX 570M does not grind the machine to halt thou..
>>
>> Did it work correctly without an xorg.conf and you decided to create one
>> for the fun of it or did it not work after install and you were forced
>> to create an xorg.conf to circumvent the problem?  ( Note you should not
>> need to create a xorg.conf file )
>>
> Hi JBG,
>
> as I told in my previous email, it came up correctly when I installed
> F12 Beta without changes.
>
> It did not work correctly when trying to create for fun a new
> xorg.conf (I wanted to test a reduced resolution 1024x768).

Well you can reduce the resolution using in Gnome for instance
Preference --> Display or via terminal xrandr -s 1024x768
without the need to actually create an xorg.conf. But you should file a
report against s-c-d and attache the created xorg.conf along with xorg
log file encase it's generating it incorrectly..

Also see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_xorg.conf

JBG
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From schaiba at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 10:04:17 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:04:17 +0200
Subject: F12 Beta install issue
In-Reply-To: <0e2b2981ae617dfd44172ab40efb286d@fcp.surfsite.org>
References: <0e2b2981ae617dfd44172ab40efb286d@fcp.surfsite.org>
Message-ID: <4AE57421.4070804@gmail.com>

toddbailey wrote:
> So I have a pII 400 mhx w/ 256m memory
>
> Because it's a dinosaur, installing beta not a problem, for testing.
>
> it complained that it could do a graphical install.
> And with out this tool I may not be able to configure networking properly
>
> Assistance is requested to force the install the gnome environment.
>
> suggestions--
>
> thanks
>
>
>   
For configuring network, you may append 'asknetwork' to the kernel options.
It won't do a graphical install due to limited hardware resources. Gnome 
on that system would perform very slowly; maybe you can try another DE/WM.



From kparal at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 10:07:26 2009
From: kparal at redhat.com (Kamil Paral)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:07:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: abrt
In-Reply-To: <200910251618.36843.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <866810367.49181256551646016.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

----- "Gene Czarcinski"  wrote:

> >  ...
> > I suggest that this be fixed BEFORE F12 is released!
> 
> Even more of a problem is that even if you do invoke abrt-gui as root,
> you 
> still cannot report problems!
> 
> Gene

Hi, I cannot say if something can be fixed before F12 is released, but
the abrt developers are working hard on it. Please report all bugs
into bugzilla, they will be noticed.



From joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de  Mon Oct 26 10:52:09 2009
From: joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de (Joachim Backes)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:52:09 +0100
Subject: system-config-display in F12 Beta
	fails	with	nouveau/Nvidia	FX5200
In-Reply-To: <4AE57288.7010101@hi.is>
References: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
	<4AE55B6F.3050201@hi.is>	<4AE569E3.8020300@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
	<4AE57288.7010101@hi.is>
Message-ID: <4AE57F59.1010905@rhrk.uni-kl.de>

On 10/26/2009 10:57 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 09:20 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> On 10/26/2009 09:18 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>>> On 10/26/2009 07:20 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>>>> I installed F12 Beta from scratch, and X11 was installed on my
>>>> 1280x1024 screen correctly (Video card Nvidia FX5200) with the nouveau
>>>> driver.
>>>>
>>>> Now I tried to install a new xorg.conf by using system-config-display
>>>> (for experimental reasons), but it failed with and without the
>>>> --reconfig option.
>>>>
>>>> Somebody made similar experiences?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have seen some [DRM] complaint during boot up on my laptop that has
>>> Nvidia Quadro FX 570M does not grind the machine to halt thou..
>>>
>>> Did it work correctly without an xorg.conf and you decided to create one
>>> for the fun of it or did it not work after install and you were forced
>>> to create an xorg.conf to circumvent the problem?  ( Note you should not
>>> need to create a xorg.conf file )
>>>
>> Hi JBG,
>>
>> as I told in my previous email, it came up correctly when I installed
>> F12 Beta without changes.
>>
>> It did not work correctly when trying to create for fun a new
>> xorg.conf (I wanted to test a reduced resolution 1024x768).
>
> Well you can reduce the resolution using in Gnome for instance
> Preference -->  Display or via terminal xrandr -s 1024x768
> without the need to actually create an xorg.conf. But you should file a
> report against s-c-d and attache the created xorg.conf along with xorg
> log file encase it's generating it incorrectly..

I did this already.
   Bug 530933 -  system-config-display fails with Nvidia FX5200 video 
card on F12 Beta
>
> Also see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_xorg.conf
>
> JBG
>

Joachim Backes

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From jameshubbard at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 11:44:33 2009
From: jameshubbard at gmail.com (James Hubbard)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:44:33 -0400
Subject: system-config-display in F12 Beta fails with nouveau/Nvidia 
	FX5200
In-Reply-To: <4AE569E3.8020300@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
References: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <4AE55B6F.3050201@hi.is>
	<4AE569E3.8020300@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Joachim Backes
 wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 09:18 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> as I told in my previous email, it came up correctly when I installed F12
> Beta without changes.
>
> It did not work correctly when trying to create for fun a new xorg.conf (I
> wanted to test a reduced resolution 1024x768).

Did you remove the nomodeset option from the grub boot line?   I can't
change the resolution on my laptop without enabling modeset for
nvidia.



From joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de  Mon Oct 26 12:05:47 2009
From: joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de (Joachim Backes)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:05:47 +0100
Subject: system-config-display in F12 Beta fails with nouveau/Nvidia 
 FX5200
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
	<4AE55B6F.3050201@hi.is>	<4AE569E3.8020300@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
	
Message-ID: <4AE5909B.6010001@rhrk.uni-kl.de>

On 10/26/2009 12:44 PM, James Hubbard wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Joachim Backes
>   wrote:
>> On 10/26/2009 09:18 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>> as I told in my previous email, it came up correctly when I installed F12
>> Beta without changes.
>>
>> It did not work correctly when trying to create for fun a new xorg.conf (I
>> wanted to test a reduced resolution 1024x768).
>
> Did you remove the nomodeset option from the grub boot line?   I can't
> change the resolution on my laptop without enabling modeset for
> nvidia.

Hi James,

no, I didn't, because there is no "nomodeset"  option in the grub boot line.

Regards

Joachim Backes


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From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 12:14:34 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:14:34 -0400
Subject: 2009-10-26 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting Agenda
Message-ID: <1256559274.2337.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>

# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2009-10-26
# Time: 16:00 UTC (12 EDT)
# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 

Hey folks,  please see the proposed agenda provided by Adam Williamson.
I've also asked for Adam's help in hosting the meeting today.  If you're
a regular, we look forward to hearing from you.  If you're new to QA ...
lurking, questions and feedback are always welcome :)

On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 23:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: 
> Come join the QA meeting tomorrow.  See proposed discussion agenda below.
> 
>         1. Previous meeting follow-up:
>         https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20091019#Action_items
>         
>         2. Viking_Ice locale test suggestion - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00503.html
>         
>         3. Milos Jakubicek suggestion: file FTBFS bugs for remaining un-rebuilt packages
>         
>         4. AutoQA Updates from wwoods and kparal
> 
>         5. Upcoming QA events 
> 
             * 2009-10-29 - i18n Test Day - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-29
>            * 2009-10-30 - Blocker Bug Day (F12Blocker) #2
>         
>         6. Open discussion - 

NOTE: Be aware that while the meeting time has not changed (16:00 UTC),
daylight savings time may have changed in your timezone.  See
http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=10&day=26&year=2009&p1=0&p2=256&p3=179&p4=204

Thanks,
James
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 26 12:42:43 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:42:43 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091026 changes
Message-ID: <20091026124243.GA22455@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Mon Oct 26 06:15:07 UTC 2009










Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



Summary:
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Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0



From jameshubbard at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 12:46:27 2009
From: jameshubbard at gmail.com (James Hubbard)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:46:27 -0400
Subject: system-config-display in F12 Beta fails with nouveau/Nvidia 
	FX5200
In-Reply-To: <4AE5909B.6010001@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
References: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <4AE55B6F.3050201@hi.is>
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Joachim Backes
 wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 12:44 PM, James Hubbard wrote:
>> Did you remove the nomodeset option from the grub boot line? ? I can't
>> change the resolution on my laptop without enabling modeset for
>> nvidia.
>
> Hi James,
>
> no, I didn't, because there is no "nomodeset" ?option in the grub boot line.

That's interesting.  It placed it by default on the Dell D820 that I
have when I did a fresh install.  At first I didn't think that it was
there until I scrolled backwards through all of the other options in
the grub menu.

Does anyone know when it doesn't place the nomodeset option in the grub.conf?



From an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 26 13:53:03 2009
From: an037-ooai8 at yahoo.com (Allen Kistler)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:53:03 -0500
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
Message-ID: <4AE5A9BF.2070705@yahoo.com>

David wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> Fedora Bugzilla will not solve anything. The bug will probably just be
> closed since it can not be fixed by Fedora.
> 
> The SELinux list *might* at least get you enough instructions to write
> an 'exception' rule. There is a different name for this but I can recall
> it at the moment.
> 
> Vmware has their own Bugzilla. I just looked for it. I would think that
> there would be the place to report this. I would think that this is a
> bug that they would fix. Or at least offer a 'do this' fix for the user
> to apply.

There is a vmware policy in Fedora (and RHEL).  Depending on the nature
of the AVCs, filing a bug for SELinux in RH BZ might get the policy updated.

The case would be helped a lot if Workstation 7 actually runs on Fedora
with SELinux in permissive mode.  If it doesn't, then there's no point
in updating the policy.  If VMware needs ridiculous permissions, that's
what will get it closed WONTFIX, but there has to be a BZ with the AVCs,
first.

I wouldn't be surprised if RH (and by extension, Fedora) dropped support
for VMware Workstation soon.  But in the meantime ....



From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 14:30:55 2009
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:30:55 -0400
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>

Forgive the rant that follows...

This isn't F12 specific.  As a matter of fact, I was just trying to do some
'packaging' development and SELinux on F11 when it bit me.  F12 and
its apps have the same issues, and its not even Fedora specific.
Now don't ask why I was doing it, its not relevant, but...

While doing my work, I'm using a virtual machine, (VirtualBox right now)
and it presents a nice window for Fedora to present itself into.
The trouble is that VirtualBox's display is not a very high resolution window.
Thats OK, I can live with that.  The problem comes when there are
applications that throw up windows that are of fixed size, and don't
have scroll bars!

For example,  system-config-selinux.  Using a limited resolution screen
the policy generation tool draws a window thats wider than the screen.
And unfortunately that places options and button on the window past
its right hand boundary.



Either window managers should auto-draw windows that can't fit on the display
so that they contain scroll bars, or the developers must be made smart
enough so they know _they_ have to do it.  (When I develop GUIs, my windows
are smart enough to auto-draw the scroll bars if the window doesn't fit on
the display.)

I suppose while I'm ranting... lets delve into "WHY is everyone defining
their dialog boxes and other windows as 'modal windows?" Rarely if
ever, does a window really need to be modal!  I can't tell you how many
times I've encountered a window where I need to go to another window
to determine the answer.  But the damn modal window prevents me from
doing it.  You have to back out of what your doing... find the answer...
then go forwards again, to get to the point of answering the original question.

ARGH!  It feels as though I'm using freak'in Windows.
Unix GUI apps _used_ to be _so_ much more friendlier.  :-(



Fulko



From dgboles at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 14:36:50 2009
From: dgboles at gmail.com (David)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:36:50 -0400
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE5B402.8000102@gmail.com>

On 10/26/2009 10:30 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
> Forgive the rant that follows...
> 
> This isn't F12 specific.  As a matter of fact, I was just trying to do some
> 'packaging' development and SELinux on F11 when it bit me.  F12 and
> its apps have the same issues, and its not even Fedora specific.
> Now don't ask why I was doing it, its not relevant, but...
> 
> While doing my work, I'm using a virtual machine, (VirtualBox right now)
> and it presents a nice window for Fedora to present itself into.
> The trouble is that VirtualBox's display is not a very high resolution window.
> Thats OK, I can live with that.  The problem comes when there are
> applications that throw up windows that are of fixed size, and don't
> have scroll bars!
> 
> For example,  system-config-selinux.  Using a limited resolution screen
> the policy generation tool draws a window thats wider than the screen.
> And unfortunately that places options and button on the window past
> its right hand boundary.


Three related questions:

1) Have you installed the GuestAdditions?
2) Have you switched to the fullscreen display mode?
3) Did you actually read the instructions?  :-)

> 
> 
> Either window managers should auto-draw windows that can't fit on the display
> so that they contain scroll bars, or the developers must be made smart
> enough so they know _they_ have to do it.  (When I develop GUIs, my windows
> are smart enough to auto-draw the scroll bars if the window doesn't fit on
> the display.)
> 
> I suppose while I'm ranting... lets delve into "WHY is everyone defining
> their dialog boxes and other windows as 'modal windows?" Rarely if
> ever, does a window really need to be modal!  I can't tell you how many
> times I've encountered a window where I need to go to another window
> to determine the answer.  But the damn modal window prevents me from
> doing it.  You have to back out of what your doing... find the answer...
> then go forwards again, to get to the point of answering the original question.
> 
> ARGH!  It feels as though I'm using freak'in Windows.
> Unix GUI apps _used_ to be _so_ much more friendlier.  :-(
> 
> 
> 
> Fulko
> 


-- 


  David

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From dgboles at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 14:37:08 2009
From: dgboles at gmail.com (David)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:37:08 -0400
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: <4AE5A9BF.2070705@yahoo.com>
References: <4AE5A9BF.2070705@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4AE5B414.9060309@gmail.com>

On 10/26/2009 9:53 AM, Allen Kistler wrote:
> David wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> Fedora Bugzilla will not solve anything. The bug will probably just be
>> closed since it can not be fixed by Fedora.
>>
>> The SELinux list *might* at least get you enough instructions to write
>> an 'exception' rule. There is a different name for this but I can recall
>> it at the moment.
>>
>> Vmware has their own Bugzilla. I just looked for it. I would think that
>> there would be the place to report this. I would think that this is a
>> bug that they would fix. Or at least offer a 'do this' fix for the user
>> to apply.
> 
> There is a vmware policy in Fedora (and RHEL).  Depending on the nature
> of the AVCs, filing a bug for SELinux in RH BZ might get the policy updated.
> 
> The case would be helped a lot if Workstation 7 actually runs on Fedora
> with SELinux in permissive mode.  If it doesn't, then there's no point
> in updating the policy.  If VMware needs ridiculous permissions, that's
> what will get it closed WONTFIX, but there has to be a BZ with the AVCs,
> first.
> 
> I wouldn't be surprised if RH (and by extension, Fedora) dropped support
> for VMware Workstation soon.  But in the meantime ....


"dropped support"? I was not aware that VMware Workstation was ever a
'supported' application. Tolerated perhaps but not supported.  :-)


-- 


  David



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From dzrudy at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 14:44:36 2009
From: dzrudy at gmail.com (Dawid Zamirski)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:44:36 -0400
Subject: KDE4 is taking over GNOME settings...
Message-ID: <1256568276.28063.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hello all,

I have recently gave a try KDE4 installing it alongside GNOME and while
it ran fine, and I actually kind of liked it :-), after logging back to
GNOME I have noticed that:

* Dolphin took over "open folder" action, eg. opening anything in Places
menu Dolphin opens up instead of Nautilus. I've found a gconf key
setting via google that fixes this but still..

* In Firefox, "Open With" of the download window was taken over by KDE
apps e.g instead of Transmission to open .torrent files the KTorrent is
set as default and I can't even change it back.

* In Firefox, also in the download window, when I right-click on the
downloaded file and choose Open or Open Containing Folder an alert popup
shows up saying it cannot open folder location.


There were several more issues like that when KDE apps took GNOME's
defaults when running GNOME but I can't remember them now. After I have
removed KDE4 all went back to normal.

So before I start to BZ those, is this already a known issue and is
there a chance of it being fixed so that when I run KDE4, I have
kde-specific default and when I run GNOME I have my GNOME defaults still
active.. I'd really like to play with KDE4 to get more comfortable with
it but after it took over my GNOME settings I felt a little bit
frustrated and removed it as it reminded me the Windows days when you
install one application and it takes over all possible file associations
it can :-/ (BTW when trying to remove the kde-desktop meta package, it
wanted to remove almost all of my system including pulseaudio, gdm etc
so I had to remove kde related packeges one by one).

Regards,
Dawid



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Mon Oct 26 14:41:50 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:41:50 -0600
Subject: Network Manager
Message-ID: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

My network manager is not working at all.  I am not experienced enough
to understand what is going on so please advise me someone as to what I
should do.  I am running Fedora 12 Beta on a  Dell Inspiron E1705
laptop.
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 26 14:44:05 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:14:05 +0530
Subject: Network Manager
In-Reply-To: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4AE5B5B5.90705@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/26/2009 08:11 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> My network manager is not working at all.  I am not experienced enough
> to understand what is going on so please advise me someone as to what I
> should do.  I am running Fedora 12 Beta on a  Dell Inspiron E1705
> laptop.

Have you got all the updates? What version is it that you are running now?

Rahul



From johannbg at hi.is  Mon Oct 26 14:48:30 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:48:30 +0000
Subject: Network Manager
In-Reply-To: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4AE5B6BE.6090806@hi.is>

On 10/26/2009 02:41 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> My network manager is not working at all.  I am not experienced enough
> to understand what is going on so please advise me someone as to what I
> should do.  I am running Fedora 12 Beta on a  Dell Inspiron E1705
> laptop.
>   

Based on the glories details on how NetworkManager does not work for you
open an terminal window run /usr/bin/nm-applet and update your machine...

JBG
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From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 14:49:29 2009
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:49:29 -0400
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
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References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com> 
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:36 AM, David  wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 10:30 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
>> Forgive the rant that follows...
>>
>> This isn't F12 specific.  As a matter of fact, I was just trying to do some
>> 'packaging' development and SELinux on F11 when it bit me.  F12 and
>> its apps have the same issues, and its not even Fedora specific.
>> Now don't ask why I was doing it, its not relevant, but...
>>
>> While doing my work, I'm using a virtual machine, (VirtualBox right now)
>> and it presents a nice window for Fedora to present itself into.
>> The trouble is that VirtualBox's display is not a very high resolution window.
>> Thats OK, I can live with that.  The problem comes when there are
>> applications that throw up windows that are of fixed size, and don't
>> have scroll bars!
>>
>> For example,  system-config-selinux.  Using a limited resolution screen
>> the policy generation tool draws a window thats wider than the screen.
>> And unfortunately that places options and button on the window past
>> its right hand boundary.
>
>
> Three related questions:
>
> 1) Have you installed the GuestAdditions?

Nope, but I have now, and I'll look into it.

> 2) Have you switched to the fullscreen display mode?

Nope, but I see in the documentation that there is a way
to reconfig the OS to take advantage of 'full screen mode'.
(Just going into full screen mode isn't enough.)

> 3) Did you actually read the instructions?  :-)

As an co-worker said ~25 years ago:
"If you have to read the book... its too damn complicated.".

I've used that as a design guideline ever since, along with:
"If you have to ask me a question... I didn't do my job right."

... snip ...

But in the end, my rant isn't with VirtualBox,
its with the application developers.



From johannbg at hi.is  Mon Oct 26 14:53:41 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:53:41 +0000
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <8204a4fe0910260749j7a997bcak3696ce1aa0cb7e37@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>
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	<8204a4fe0910260749j7a997bcak3696ce1aa0cb7e37@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE5B7F5.9020608@hi.is>

On 10/26/2009 02:49 PM, Fulko Hew wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:36 AM, David  wrote:
>   
>> On 10/26/2009 10:30 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
>>     
>>
... #works just like regular  just better..
> But in the end, my rant isn't with VirtualBox,
> its with the application developers.
>   

Which begs the question have you pointed them out to the problem your
experiencing with their application?

If it does not get reported it wont get fixed..

JBG
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From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Mon Oct 26 14:54:27 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:54:27 -0600
Subject: Network Manager
In-Reply-To: <4AE5B5B5.90705@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5B5B5.90705@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1256568867.5907.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

How do get all the updates when you can't get on the internet without
the network manager?  I prize myself in the area of keeping up with the
update.:-)

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 20:14 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 08:11 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > My network manager is not working at all.  I am not experienced enough
> > to understand what is going on so please advise me someone as to what I
> > should do.  I am running Fedora 12 Beta on a  Dell Inspiron E1705
> > laptop.
> 
> Have you got all the updates? What version is it that you are running now?
> 
> Rahul
> 
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 26 14:53:29 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:23:29 +0530
Subject: Network Manager
In-Reply-To: <1256568867.5907.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>	
	<4AE5B5B5.90705@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256568867.5907.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4AE5B7E9.60103@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/26/2009 08:24 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> How do get all the updates when you can't get on the internet without
> the network manager?  I prize myself in the area of keeping up with the
> update.:-)

Run nm-applet manually and check. Tell us which version of
NetworkManager you are using by running rpm -qi NetworkManager. If
nm-applet refuses to start, connect to a wired network, run service
network start and get the updates.

Rahul



From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Mon Oct 26 15:03:06 2009
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:03:06 -0500
Subject: KDE4 is taking over GNOME settings...
References: <1256568276.28063.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: 

Dawid Zamirski wrote:

> I have recently gave a try KDE4 installing it alongside GNOME and while
> it ran fine, and I actually kind of liked it :-), after logging back to
> GNOME I have noticed that:
...
> There were several more issues like that when KDE apps took GNOME's
> defaults when running GNOME but I can't remember them now. After I have
> removed KDE4 all went back to normal.

I switch back-n-forth a lot for testing, haven't experienced it.  I'd 
welcome a recipe on how to reproduce this. 

For what it's worth, the "take over" should only occur within the kde4 
session, via setting of 
XDG_DATA_DIRS
in /etc/kde/env/env.sh

unless users' options in ~/.config or ~/.local gets touched or modified, 
which is at their discretion, of course.

-- Rex



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Mon Oct 26 15:04:00 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:04:00 -0600
Subject: Network Manager
In-Reply-To: <4AE5B7E9.60103@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5B5B5.90705@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256568867.5907.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5B7E9.60103@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1256569440.5907.8.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

When I ran the command, it came back and said unknown option.  I am
connect to wired network and nothing.

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 20:23 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 08:24 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > How do get all the updates when you can't get on the internet without
> > the network manager?  I prize myself in the area of keeping up with the
> > update.:-)
> 
> Run nm-applet manually and check. Tell us which version of
> NetworkManager you are using by running rpm -qi NetworkManager. If
> nm-applet refuses to start, connect to a wired network, run service
> network start and get the updates.
> 
> Rahul
> 
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 26 15:03:06 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:33:06 +0530
Subject: Network Manager
In-Reply-To: <1256569440.5907.8.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>	
	<4AE5B5B5.90705@fedoraproject.org>	
	<1256568867.5907.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>	
	<4AE5B7E9.60103@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256569440.5907.8.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4AE5BA2A.2060100@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/26/2009 08:34 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> When I ran the command, it came back and said unknown option.  I am
> connect to wired network and nothing.

You are not giving me enough information however. I have asked a couple
of times already. What is the version of NetworkManager you are running?

# rpm -q NetworkManager

After connecting to a wired network, run

# service NetworkManager stop
# service network start
# yum update

Rahul

Ps: Don't top post.



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Mon Oct 26 15:13:34 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:13:34 -0600
Subject: Network Manager
In-Reply-To: <4AE5BA2A.2060100@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5B5B5.90705@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256568867.5907.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5B7E9.60103@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256569440.5907.8.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5BA2A.2060100@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1256570014.5907.10.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

NetworkManager-0.7.996-5.got20091021.fc12.x86_64.  Is this what you are
looking for?


On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 20:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 08:34 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > When I ran the command, it came back and said unknown option.  I am
> > connect to wired network and nothing.
> 
> You are not giving me enough information however. I have asked a couple
> of times already. What is the version of NetworkManager you are running?
> 
> # rpm -q NetworkManager
> 
> After connecting to a wired network, run
> 
> # service NetworkManager stop
> # service network start
> # yum update
> 
> Rahul
> 
> Ps: Don't top post.
> 
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 15:17:34 2009
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:17:34 -0400
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <4AE5B7F5.9020608@hi.is>
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4AE5B402.8000102@gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0910260749j7a997bcak3696ce1aa0cb7e37@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4AE5B7F5.9020608@hi.is>
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0910260817r78955d97w18614863a3ecb080@mail.gmail.com>

2009/10/26 "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" :
> On 10/26/2009 02:49 PM, Fulko Hew wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:36 AM, David  wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/26/2009 10:30 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
>>>
> ... #works just like regular  just better..
>> But in the end, my rant isn't with VirtualBox,
>> its with the application developers.
>>
>
> Which begs the question have you pointed them out to the problem your
> experiencing with their application?
>
> If it does not get reported it wont get fixed..

Yes, I know... I haven't.  :-(

Because its sort of a 'killing flies with a pea-shooter'.
I'd have to report it to (probably) every application.  It might be easier
to get the windowing libraries to implement the auto-scroll bar feature
(and have it default)  rather than reporting it on every application I come
across during the day..

As for the dialog box issue, its the same 'shooting flies' problem.
I once thought it was because GUI builders provided windows
with 'modality' enabled by default, but I don't know.

For me, the problem seems overwhelming,
how do you go about (re)educating the world that simpler is (usually) better?



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Mon Oct 26 15:17:56 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:17:56 -0600
Subject: Network Manager
In-Reply-To: <4AE5BA2A.2060100@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5B5B5.90705@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256568867.5907.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5B7E9.60103@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256569440.5907.8.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5BA2A.2060100@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1256570276.5907.12.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 20:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 08:34 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > When I ran the command, it came back and said unknown option.  I am
> > connect to wired network and nothing.
> 
> You are not giving me enough information however. I have asked a couple
> of times already. What is the version of NetworkManager you are running?
> 
> # rpm -q NetworkManager
> 
> After connecting to a wired network, run
> 
> # service NetworkManager stop
> # service network start
> # yum update
> 
> Rahul
> 
> Ps: Don't top post.
> 
--When I ran all the commands, it came back and said error downloading
packages  gtk2-2.18.3-11.fc12 
Lawrence E Graves 



From dgboles at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 15:19:07 2009
From: dgboles at gmail.com (David)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:19:07 -0400
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <8204a4fe0910260749j7a997bcak3696ce1aa0cb7e37@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AE5B402.8000102@gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0910260749j7a997bcak3696ce1aa0cb7e37@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE5BDEB.9040404@gmail.com>

On 10/26/2009 10:49 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:36 AM, David  wrote:
>> On 10/26/2009 10:30 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
>>
>>
>> Three related questions:
>>
>> 1) Have you installed the GuestAdditions?
> 
> Nope, but I have now, and I'll look into it.
> 
>> 2) Have you switched to the fullscreen display mode?
> 
> Nope, but I see in the documentation that there is a way
> to reconfig the OS to take advantage of 'full screen mode'.
> (Just going into full screen mode isn't enough.)
> 
>> 3) Did you actually read the instructions?  :-)
> 
> As an co-worker said ~25 years ago:
> "If you have to read the book... its too damn complicated.".
> 
> I've used that as a design guideline ever since, along with:
> "If you have to ask me a question... I didn't do my job right."
> 
> ... snip ...
> 
> But in the end, my rant isn't with VirtualBox,
> its with the application developers.


But from the way that you wrote this it sounded more like pebcak.  :-)

Virtualbox, when configured correctly and in fullscreen mode, looks just
like a 'real' install of the guest OS. The only way there could be
sliders on the right side or the left side of the application windows
would be if that was a normal display. An application that was in a
windowed (not fullscreen) mode. Also note that the Guest OS needs to be
configured correctly too.

As for the instructions? Virtualbox has some of the very best
instructions that I have ever seen. Don't think of Virtualbox as running
another application on your OS. Think of it as running a different OS on
your OS.
-- 


  David

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From dzrudy at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 15:29:04 2009
From: dzrudy at gmail.com (Dawid Zamirski)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:29:04 -0400
Subject: KDE4 is taking over GNOME settings...
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256568276.28063.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
Message-ID: <1256570944.28063.29.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 10:03 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: 
> 
> I switch back-n-forth a lot for testing, haven't experienced it.  I'd 
> welcome a recipe on how to reproduce this. 
> 
> For what it's worth, the "take over" should only occur within the kde4 
> session, via setting of 
> XDG_DATA_DIRS
> in /etc/kde/env/env.sh
> 
> unless users' options in ~/.config or ~/.local gets touched or modified, 
> which is at their discretion, of course.
> 
> -- Rex
> 

Well, all I did was yum install kde-desktop, logged out and logged in to
KDE session using GDM.

I'll be re-installing Fedora in the middle of this week with F12 Beta
iso and I'll clean up my home directory from all config files. I'm
currently running up-to-date rawhide that was installed from Alpha iso
but I have already noticed minor differences between Beta install (of
course updated) and mine so it's time to start from scratch again.

Anyway, I remember this happening to me when I was still running Fedora
11. I'll report back (on Wednesday or Thursday) when I clean install
everything and will reproduce exact steps on two different machines. If
you have any tips on what to watch for (which files or directories), it
would be helpful for me to produce useful feedback.

Thanks for reply.
Dawid



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 26 15:28:07 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:58:07 +0530
Subject: Network Manager
In-Reply-To: <1256570014.5907.10.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>	
	<4AE5B5B5.90705@fedoraproject.org>	
	<1256568867.5907.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>	
	<4AE5B7E9.60103@fedoraproject.org>	
	<1256569440.5907.8.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>	
	<4AE5BA2A.2060100@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256570014.5907.10.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4AE5C007.5030508@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/26/2009 08:43 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> NetworkManager-0.7.996-5.got20091021.fc12.x86_64.  Is this what you are
> looking for?

Yes. That is the latest version in Rawhide. What desktop environment are
you running?  Do you have NetworkManager-gnome package installed?

The version I have is

NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.996-5.git20091021.fc12.i686

You might also want to check whether you have accidentally removed the
notification area in your GNOME Panel.

Rahul



From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Mon Oct 26 15:35:03 2009
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:35:03 -0500
Subject: KDE4 is taking over GNOME settings...
References: <1256568276.28063.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
	<1256570944.28063.29.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: 

Dawid Zamirski wrote:


> Anyway, I remember this happening to me when I was still running Fedora
> 11. I'll report back (on Wednesday or Thursday) when I clean install
> everything and will reproduce exact steps on two different machines. If
> you have any tips on what to watch for (which files or directories), it
> would be helpful for me to produce useful feedback.

I'd venture user/local customizations for default apps are getting saved to
~/.local/share/applications

And that is shared among all desktops

-- Rex



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Mon Oct 26 15:38:49 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:38:49 -0600
Subject: Network Manager
In-Reply-To: <4AE5C007.5030508@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1256568110.5907.2.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5B5B5.90705@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256568867.5907.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5B7E9.60103@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256569440.5907.8.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5BA2A.2060100@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256570014.5907.10.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE5C007.5030508@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1256571529.5907.15.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 20:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 08:43 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > NetworkManager-0.7.996-5.got20091021.fc12.x86_64.  Is this what you are
> > looking for?
> 
> Yes. That is the latest version in Rawhide. What desktop environment are
> you running?  Do you have NetworkManager-gnome package installed?
> 
> The version I have is
> 
> NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.996-5.git20091021.fc12.i686
> 
> You might also want to check whether you have accidentally removed the
> notification area in your GNOME Panel.
> 
> Rahul
> 
I am going to do the next best thing and that is reinstall Fedora 12
Beta.  It is working now.  Something happened and it is strange.  Thanks
for all the help.  I truly learn some more and all of this was not a
total lost.
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From dzrudy at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 15:47:37 2009
From: dzrudy at gmail.com (Dawid Zamirski)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:47:37 -0400
Subject: KDE4 is taking over GNOME settings...
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256568276.28063.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
	<1256570944.28063.29.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
Message-ID: <1256572057.28063.36.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 10:35 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:

> 
> I'd venture user/local customizations for default apps are getting saved to
> ~/.local/share/applications
> 
> And that is shared among all desktops
> 
> -- Rex
> 

I see now, so when in KDE I set eg amarok to open mp3 files, it'll
affect GNOME as well? I remember that I was doing customizations in KDE
when I was still running F11. I just didn't realize that it saves those
in .config and/or .local as I thought that KDE keeps all its settings
separately in .kde. I usually do not remove these, as I want to keep my
gnome settings, when I do a new install and probably that's how it got
affected.





From dzrudy at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 16:13:35 2009
From: dzrudy at gmail.com (Dawid Zamirski)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:13:35 -0400
Subject: KDE4 is taking over GNOME settings...
In-Reply-To: <1256572057.28063.36.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1256568276.28063.18.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
	<1256570944.28063.29.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
	<1256572057.28063.36.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256573615.2833.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 11:47 -0400, Dawid Zamirski wrote: 
> 
> I see now, so when in KDE I set eg amarok to open mp3 files, it'll
> affect GNOME as well? I remember that I was doing customizations in KDE
> when I was still running F11. I just didn't realize that it saves those
> in .config and/or .local as I thought that KDE keeps all its settings
> separately in .kde. I usually do not remove these, as I want to keep my
> gnome settings, when I do a new install and probably that's how it got
> affected.
> 

I did a quick test now and installed KDE4 again and renamed my ~/.config
~/.local ~/.cache and ~/.mozilla directories and indeed KDE did not
"steal" the associations in Places menu but Firefox settings were still
taken over - KTorrent is set as default instead of Transmission to
open .torrent files. "Open Containing Folder" and "Open" in the
downloads window of Firefox works ok.



From schaiba at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 17:15:05 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:15:05 +0200
Subject: Gnash and rawhide
Message-ID: <4AE5D919.2090503@gmail.com>

As stated in http://lwn.net/Articles/357770/ , gnash should work ok with 
youtube pages. However, on my amd64 rawhide machine, when I try to open 
something in youtube, I get two pop-up windows(see attachment). Note 
that I did yum install gstreamer* just to be sure.
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From riku.seppala at kymp.net  Mon Oct 26 17:23:31 2009
From: riku.seppala at kymp.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Riku_Sepp=E4l=E4?=)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:23:31 +0200
Subject: Gnash and rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4AE5D919.2090503@gmail.com>
References: <4AE5D919.2090503@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE5DB13.9030903@kymp.net>

On 10/26/2009 07:15 PM, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> As stated in http://lwn.net/Articles/357770/ , gnash should work ok with
> youtube pages. However, on my amd64 rawhide machine, when I try to open
> something in youtube, I get two pop-up windows(see attachment). Note
> that I did yum install gstreamer* just to be sure.
>

Yeah you need gstreamer-ffmpeg (and maybe some others?) to watch youtube 
videos. You can get gstreamer-ffmpeg from rpm fusion.
http://rpmfusion.org/

Riku



From schaiba at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 17:30:42 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:30:42 +0200
Subject: Gnash and rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4AE5DB13.9030903@kymp.net>
References: <4AE5D919.2090503@gmail.com> <4AE5DB13.9030903@kymp.net>
Message-ID: <4AE5DCC2.5000905@gmail.com>

On 10/26/2009 07:23 PM, Riku Sepp?l? wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 07:15 PM, Aioanei Rares wrote:
>> As stated in http://lwn.net/Articles/357770/ , gnash should work ok with
>> youtube pages. However, on my amd64 rawhide machine, when I try to open
>> something in youtube, I get two pop-up windows(see attachment). Note
>> that I did yum install gstreamer* just to be sure.
>>
>
> Yeah you need gstreamer-ffmpeg (and maybe some others?) to watch 
> youtube videos. You can get gstreamer-ffmpeg from rpm fusion.
> http://rpmfusion.org/
>
> Riku
>
I know, but it kinda defeats the purpose, that being using FREE software 
only, right?



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 26 17:30:03 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:00:03 +0530
Subject: Gnash and rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4AE5DCC2.5000905@gmail.com>
References: <4AE5D919.2090503@gmail.com> <4AE5DB13.9030903@kymp.net>
	<4AE5DCC2.5000905@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE5DC9B.2050508@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/26/2009 11:00 PM, Aioanei Rares wrote:

> I know, but it kinda defeats the purpose, that being using FREE software
> only, right?

gstreamer-ffmpeg and ffmpeg is free and open source software. It is
patent encumbered however in some regions including the U.S.  That is
why it is in the rpmfusion-free repo as opposed to the non-free repo
which has proprietary software.

Rahul



From bruno at wolff.to  Mon Oct 26 17:39:46 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:39:46 -0500
Subject: environment-modules 3.2.7b-4.fc12 should get reverted or fixed
 before final
In-Reply-To: <20091024213535.GA32052@wolff.to>
References: <20091024213535.GA32052@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <20091026173946.GA18056@wolff.to>

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 16:35:35 -0500,
  Bruno Wolff III  wrote:
> environment-modules 3.2.7b-4.fc12 is preventing gdm from successfully running.
> I have filed bug 530770 for this issue.

environment-modules-3.2.7b-5.fc12 fixes the gdm problem.



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Mon Oct 26 17:47:51 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:47:51 -0400
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <4AE5BDEB.9040404@gmail.com>
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AE5B402.8000102@gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0910260749j7a997bcak3696ce1aa0cb7e37@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AE5BDEB.9040404@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256579271.27324.58.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

Fixed-size, unscrollable windows also create problems for people who are
using smaller or lower-resolution screens (anything from old hardware to
mobile devices) - it's not just for the sake of virtualization that they
should be fixed.  And modal dialogs create usability problems for
everyone, of course.

In some cases, the fix for window size is to reduce preference bloat or
change the interaction paradigm, if a scrolling window would cause
confusion or is a symptom of a larger problem.  Layout may also need to
be changed so windows scroll in only one direction instead of two.  So
there is some value in reporting such bugs against the application,
rather than trying to find a general solution.  Though it does seem
tempting to have e.g. metacity force scroll bars on windows that are too
big to fit on the screen, as a stopgap measure.

If you find it overwhelming to file so many bugs at once, then take it
one bug at a time - start with the situations you encounter most
frequently, or a particular frequently used application.

Perhaps Fedora should have a Small Screen Test Day, to find usability
problems when everyone dials down their screen resolution.

-B.



From gene at czarc.net  Mon Oct 26 17:48:01 2009
From: gene at czarc.net (Gene Czarcinski)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:48:01 -0400
Subject: abrt
In-Reply-To: <866810367.49181256551646016.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <866810367.49181256551646016.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <200910261348.01473.gene@czarc.net>

On Monday 26 October 2009 06:07:26 Kamil Paral wrote:
> ----- "Gene Czarcinski"  wrote:
> > >  ...
> > > I suggest that this be fixed BEFORE F12 is released!
> >
> > Even more of a problem is that even if you do invoke abrt-gui as root,
> > you
> > still cannot report problems!
> >
> > Gene
> 
> Hi, I cannot say if something can be fixed before F12 is released, but
> the abrt developers are working hard on it. Please report all bugs
> into bugzilla, they will be noticed.
> 

Abrt is (obviously) both new and a work-in-progress.  Getting things fixed 
before F12 release is wishful thinking on my part.  However, when things do 
get basically fixed, then I hope an update is issued for F12 so that I do not 
have to wait until F13 to see the fix.

"Fixing" abrt while maintaining security will not be easy.

Gene



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 18:03:44 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:03:44 -0700
Subject: FUDcon fun?
In-Reply-To: <4ADF0D70.3010607@redhat.com>
References: <1256101268.2314.385.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4ADF0D70.3010607@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1256580224.2314.550.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 09:32 -0400, Mel Chua wrote:

> I'm going to be taking a pass through the pre-registration table at 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009#Pre-registration 
> before the meeting, but emailing myself and Paul (mchua and pfrields at 
> fedoraproject dot org) helps us make sure we're not missing any funding 
> requests. We've gone through all the original requests in the 
> pre-registration table by now, so the remaining funding is quite 
> limited, but we're still trying to get as many people to FUDCon as 
> possible, so please let us know *today* if you need travel help.

Mel's written a good blog post here:

http://blog.melchua.com/2009/10/25/request-your-fudcon-funding-now-cutoff-thursday-1930-utc/

Which is recommended reading for anyone who still wants to come to
FUDcon but hasn't put in for funding yet.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From hobbes1069 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 18:28:10 2009
From: hobbes1069 at gmail.com (Richard Shaw)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:28:10 -0500
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <1256579271.27324.58.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AE5B402.8000102@gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0910260749j7a997bcak3696ce1aa0cb7e37@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AE5BDEB.9040404@gmail.com>
	<1256579271.27324.58.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <373c76480910261128x5c9607f7s142181cf68dc2a8e@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Christopher Beland
 wrote:
>
> Perhaps Fedora should have a Small Screen Test Day, to find usability
> problems when everyone dials down their screen resolution.

I think that would be a great idea. I am constantly running into this
issue with my EEEPC, especially with the system-config-* group of
apps. My current solution is to learn the number of TABs that get me
to the "OK" button.

Thanks,
Richard



From gtmkramer at xs4all.nl  Mon Oct 26 18:36:36 2009
From: gtmkramer at xs4all.nl (Jurgen Kramer)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:36:36 +0100
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: <4AE43DAB.4090406@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
	<4AE43DAB.4090406@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1256582196.2641.14.camel@paragon.slim>

On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 17:29 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/23/2009 05:08 PM, Jurgen Kramer wrote:
> > I've just installed F12beta (x86_64) in a KVM virtual machine without
> > problems. When trying to update through System->Administration->Software
> > Update it failed because of a missing dependency. Not really a surprise
> > there. I then update through a yum update --skip-broken, that worked.
> > 
> > Is there a way to do a '--skip-broken' via de gui updater? That would be
> > a really useful feature. Now you have to find the misbehaving package(s)
> > and deselect them before you can do a update. To longer the list of
> > updates...
> 
> PackageKit already uses --skip-broken by default anyway. So the problem
> was likely something like a conflict which cannot be detected before the
> transaction (unlike a dependency failure) and hence would not be solved
> via --skip-broken.
> 
> Rahul

Thanks, I've just experienced the same dependency resolution problem
while trying to update my F12 beta install today:

It states: xorg-x11-proto-devel conflicts with libXxf86-dga-devel

Via the GUI I cannot continue without removing xorg-x11-proto-devel from
the install list. This is not a problem when there's only one conflict.
It would be nice if PacketKit would be able to circumvent those problems
or present a list of offending/conflicting packages to deselect.

Jurgen
> 



From dsavage at peaknet.net  Mon Oct 26 18:55:55 2009
From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:55:55 -0500
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: <1256582196.2641.14.camel@paragon.slim>
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
	<4AE43DAB.4090406@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256582196.2641.14.camel@paragon.slim>
Message-ID: <1256583355.5437.34.camel@lion.protogeek.org>


On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 19:36 +0100, Jurgen Kramer wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 17:29 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > On 10/23/2009 05:08 PM, Jurgen Kramer wrote:
> > > I've just installed F12beta (x86_64) in a KVM virtual machine without
> > > problems. When trying to update through System->Administration->Software
> > > Update it failed because of a missing dependency. Not really a surprise
> > > there. I then update through a yum update --skip-broken, that worked.
> > > 
> > > Is there a way to do a '--skip-broken' via de gui updater? That would be
> > > a really useful feature. Now you have to find the misbehaving package(s)
> > > and deselect them before you can do a update. To longer the list of
> > > updates...
> > 
> > PackageKit already uses --skip-broken by default anyway. So the problem
> > was likely something like a conflict which cannot be detected before the
> > transaction (unlike a dependency failure) and hence would not be solved
> > via --skip-broken.
> > 
> > Rahul
> 
> Thanks, I've just experienced the same dependency resolution problem
> while trying to update my F12 beta install today:
> 
> It states: xorg-x11-proto-devel conflicts with libXxf86-dga-devel
> 
> Via the GUI I cannot continue without removing xorg-x11-proto-devel from
> the install list. This is not a problem when there's only one conflict.
> It would be nice if PacketKit would be able to circumvent those problems
> or present a list of offending/conflicting packages to deselect.

Jurgen,

With a painfully slow network connection I'm slogging through a
work-around that in 2-3 more days may complete a GUI install. I simply
deselected the Development groups I think contain one or both of those
packages and let 'er rip. As I write this the progress bar is at 2148 of
5607 packages. After the initial installatin is comlete, I can go back
and install the Development groups I skipped, isolating the one or two
errant packages (if they haven't been fixed by then).

--Doc



From dsavage at peaknet.net  Mon Oct 26 19:29:31 2009
From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:29:31 -0500
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: <1256582196.2641.14.camel@paragon.slim>
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
	<4AE43DAB.4090406@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256582196.2641.14.camel@paragon.slim>
Message-ID: <1256585371.5437.36.camel@lion.protogeek.org>


On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 19:36 +0100, Jurgen Kramer wrote:
> Thanks, I've just experienced the same dependency resolution problem
> while trying to update my F12 beta install today:
> 
> It states: xorg-x11-proto-devel conflicts with libXxf86-dga-devel
> 
> Via the GUI I cannot continue without removing xorg-x11-proto-devel from
> the install list. This is not a problem when there's only one conflict.
> It would be nice if PacketKit would be able to circumvent those problems
> or present a list of offending/conflicting packages to deselect.

Jurgen,

It appears that this problem has been fixed:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1767972
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2715  

--Doc



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 19:31:58 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:31:58 -0700
Subject: wifi driver not bleshing with system-config-network or iwconfig
In-Reply-To: <20091023165242.GA17278@mail.harddata.com>
References: <4AE1D5D6.2050206@ponzo.net>
	<20091023165242.GA17278@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <1256585518.2314.551.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 10:52 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:

> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530271
> 
> You write there that this is BCM4328 Broadcom hardware. So the next
> question is if you blacklisted b44, b43 and b43legacy when you
> decided to try ndiswrapper?

And, importantly, ssb. ssb will take control of the hardware even if
none of the above are loaded.

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From tom.horsley at att.net  Mon Oct 26 19:48:04 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:48:04 -0400
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: <1256582196.2641.14.camel@paragon.slim>
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
	<4AE43DAB.4090406@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256582196.2641.14.camel@paragon.slim>
Message-ID: <20091026154804.49a48183@tomh>

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:36:36 +0100
Jurgen Kramer wrote:

> Via the GUI I cannot continue without removing xorg-x11-proto-devel from
> the install list. This is not a problem when there's only one conflict.
> It would be nice if PacketKit would be able to circumvent those problems
> or present a list of offending/conflicting packages to deselect.

Or if skip-broken were just made the default: For quite a while now
skip-broken has actually been working well (a long time ago it used
to just spend 20 minutes to tell you it couldn't resolve the conflict :-).

I believe you can enable it by default in /etc/yum.conf (though I'd
have to research exactly how), I think it is stable enough these days
to just make it be on by default in the yum.conf shipped with the
systems.



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 26 19:47:32 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:17:32 +0530
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: <20091026154804.49a48183@tomh>
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>	<4AE43DAB.4090406@fedoraproject.org>	<1256582196.2641.14.camel@paragon.slim>
	<20091026154804.49a48183@tomh>
Message-ID: <4AE5FCD4.8080903@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/27/2009 01:18 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

> I believe you can enable it by default in /etc/yum.conf (though I'd
> have to research exactly how), I think it is stable enough these days
> to just make it be on by default in the yum.conf shipped with the
> systems.

set skip-broken=1 in /etc/yum.conf if you want it there by default.
Simple. I agree it should be the default as well.

http://mether.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/preventing-dependency-breakage-part-ii/

Rahul



From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 19:56:33 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:56:33 -0700
Subject: abrt
In-Reply-To: <200910251605.50543.gene@czarc.net>
References: <200910251605.50543.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <1256586993.2314.553.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 16:05 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:

> Until I saw this report, I did not know that I would need to invoke abrt-gui 
> as root to see a number of the reports.  This should be fixed!  A user should 
> not need to su to root and then run abrt-gui from the command line to do 
> reporting on things like kerneloops ... in fact, until you do this, you may be 
> completely unaware of such problems.
> 
> I suggest that this be fixed BEFORE F12 is released!

I don't understand the urgency. Prior to F12, we had, say, automatic
reporting for 10% of crashes (whatever bug-buddy caught). With current
abrt, we have automatic reporting for, say, 50% of crashes. Sure, if we
improve abrt somewhat we can make that percentage even higher, but why
is it so vital we absolutely have to do it before F12 ships? If we made
11 Fedora releases with 10% or less automatic crash report coverage,
it's not terrible if we make a 12th release with 50%...

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From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 19:58:03 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:58:03 -0700
Subject: Beta on Beta: VMware Workstation 7 RC on F12B?
In-Reply-To: <4AE4C515.10800@cchtml.com>
References: <1256478164.9119.51.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	 <4AE4AB44.40006@gmail.com>
	<1256504382.12293.8.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	<4AE4C515.10800@cchtml.com>
Message-ID: <1256587083.2314.554.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 16:37 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:

> 2) Filing a bug against SELinux for a VMWare bug will be closed. Fedora 
> doesn't care about closed source binary software.

If the targeted policy is stopping VMware accessing resources it needs
to access to work, that's a bug in the policy not a bug in VMware, and
it ought to be fixed. The licensing status of the software that's being
blocked really doesn't matter.

-- 
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 20:01:19 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:01:19 -0700
Subject: F12 Beta install issue
In-Reply-To: <0e2b2981ae617dfd44172ab40efb286d@fcp.surfsite.org>
References: <0e2b2981ae617dfd44172ab40efb286d@fcp.surfsite.org>
Message-ID: <1256587279.2314.556.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 07:09 +0100, toddbailey wrote:
> So I have a pII 400 mhx w/ 256m memory
> 
> Because it's a dinosaur, installing beta not a problem, for testing.
> 
> it complained that it could do a graphical install.
> And with out this tool I may not be able to configure networking properly
> 
> Assistance is requested to force the install the gnome environment.
> 
> suggestions--

You can use system-config-network to configure the network, then do:

yum groupinstall "GNOME Desktop Environment"

to install GNOME. As Aioanei says, GNOME may be slow on a 256MB RAM
system, you may want to try:

yum groupinstall "LXDE"

for something that'll be a bit lighter and faster.

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From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 20:03:47 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:03:47 -0700
Subject: system-config-display in F12 Beta fails with nouveau/Nvidia
 FX5200
In-Reply-To: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
References: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
Message-ID: <1256587427.2314.558.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 08:20 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
> I installed F12 Beta from scratch, and X11 was installed on my 1280x1024 
> screen correctly (Video card Nvidia FX5200) with the nouveau driver.
> 
> Now I tried to install a new xorg.conf by using system-config-display 
> (for experimental reasons), but it failed with and without the 
> --reconfig option.
> 
> Somebody made similar experiences?

system-config-display has its own auto-detection logic which is not the
same as X.org's. For most cards it gets the same result, but not all.
For NVIDIA cards, s-c-d will give you a config that tries to use the
'nv' driver, not 'nouveau'. This fails because the nouveau kernel driver
gets loaded automatically on boot, and nv won't work as long as the
nouveau kernel module is loaded.

If you just change the 'nv' in the xorg.conf to 'nouveau' it ought to
work. I'll update your bug to explain the problem (and provide a patch,
if I'm un-lazy enough).

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From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 20:12:00 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:12:00 -0700
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256587920.2314.559.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 10:30 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote:
> Forgive the rant that follows...

More useful would be filing bugs. File a bug on any application that
does this. If they ask for a use case, tell 'em netbooks.

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From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 20:19:28 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:19:28 -0700
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <4AE5BDEB.9040404@gmail.com>
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AE5B402.8000102@gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0910260749j7a997bcak3696ce1aa0cb7e37@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AE5BDEB.9040404@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256588368.2314.562.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 11:19 -0400, David wrote:

> > But in the end, my rant isn't with VirtualBox,
> > its with the application developers.
> 
> 
> But from the way that you wrote this it sounded more like pebcak.  :-)
> 
> Virtualbox, when configured correctly and in fullscreen mode, looks just
> like a 'real' install of the guest OS. The only way there could be
> sliders on the right side or the left side of the application windows
> would be if that was a normal display. An application that was in a
> windowed (not fullscreen) mode. Also note that the Guest OS needs to be
> configured correctly too.

I don't see how that's relevant to the problem. The problem is that many
apps don't consider what happens when they're run on low-resolution
displays - their authors never thought to test them at 640x480, for e.g.
So they assume there will always be enough space to render a window with
no scroll bars that's over 480 or over 600 pixels in height, which is
not always the case. I've seen many instances of this myself when I used
to use a system with a 1024x480 display. It's nothing to do with
VirtualBox per se, VBox just happened to expose him to such an
environment. There are other ways to get it too (viz, netbooks).

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From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 20:22:13 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:22:13 -0700
Subject: Gnash and rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4AE5DCC2.5000905@gmail.com>
References: <4AE5D919.2090503@gmail.com> <4AE5DB13.9030903@kymp.net>
	<4AE5DCC2.5000905@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256588533.2314.564.camel@adam.local.net>

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 19:30 +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 07:23 PM, Riku Sepp?l? wrote:
> > On 10/26/2009 07:15 PM, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> >> As stated in http://lwn.net/Articles/357770/ , gnash should work ok with
> >> youtube pages. However, on my amd64 rawhide machine, when I try to open
> >> something in youtube, I get two pop-up windows(see attachment). Note
> >> that I did yum install gstreamer* just to be sure.
> >>
> >
> > Yeah you need gstreamer-ffmpeg (and maybe some others?) to watch 
> > youtube videos. You can get gstreamer-ffmpeg from rpm fusion.
> > http://rpmfusion.org/
> >
> > Riku
> >
> I know, but it kinda defeats the purpose, that being using FREE software 
> only, right?

gstreamer-ffmpeg (and ffmpeg itself) is free, but patent-encumbered in
the U.S. If you live somewhere where software patents are not valid,
then you have no problem using it.

Those who find this works just by installing Gnash are usually using
distributions with somewhat less strict patent policies than Fedora.

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From awilliam at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 20:30:13 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:30:13 -0700
Subject: New kernel in F12
Message-ID: <1256589013.2314.567.camel@adam.local.net>

Just a note that the kernel build in F12 was updated over the weekend,
from 56 (which shipped in beta) to 96. This has quite a few changes
queued up, so if all F12 testers can please reboot and make sure the new
kernel works, that'd be great.

if you have a kernel-related bug filed, please test if it's still
present with the new kernel. That includes most graphics issues, since
bits of graphics are now done in the kernel.

This kernel disables debugging. It would be interesting to know if this
affects performance of Radeon systems, especially with KMS enabled. If
you had slow performance with a Radeon with KMS enabled and switched to
nomodeset to work around it, it'd be great if you could try a boot with
KMS enabled with kernel -96 and see if the performance is acceptable
now.

The disabling of debugging should also mean the NVIDIA proprietary
driver can be installed without problems now, for those who want/need to
use it. Obviously this is outside the remit of Fedora, but I thought I'd
note it.

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From kdekorte at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 20:54:03 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:54:03 -0600
Subject: New kernel in F12
In-Reply-To: <1256589013.2314.567.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256589013.2314.567.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AE60C6B.2060609@gmail.com>

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On 10/26/09 14:30, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Just a note that the kernel build in F12 was updated over the weekend,
> from 56 (which shipped in beta) to 96. This has quite a few changes
> queued up, so if all F12 testers can please reboot and make sure the new
> kernel works, that'd be great.
> 
> if you have a kernel-related bug filed, please test if it's still
> present with the new kernel. That includes most graphics issues, since
> bits of graphics are now done in the kernel.
> 
> This kernel disables debugging. It would be interesting to know if this
> affects performance of Radeon systems, especially with KMS enabled. If
> you had slow performance with a Radeon with KMS enabled and switched to
> nomodeset to work around it, it'd be great if you could try a boot with
> KMS enabled with kernel -96 and see if the performance is acceptable
> now.
> 
> The disabling of debugging should also mean the NVIDIA proprietary
> driver can be installed without problems now, for those who want/need to
> use it. Obviously this is outside the remit of Fedora, but I thought I'd
> note it.
> 

Adam,

3d performance went up some with the new kernel, although I am getting
some minor corruption in qemu clients and flash videos (I and others
have reported this corruption a couple of weeks ago on #radeon). Unknown
if there is a fix at this point.

I have not tried the new kernel without pcie_aspm=off yet. But plan to.

Kevin

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From tom.horsley at att.net  Mon Oct 26 21:04:30 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:04:30 -0400
Subject: New kernel in F12
In-Reply-To: <1256589013.2314.567.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256589013.2314.567.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20091026170430.4c6c299a@zooty>

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:30:13 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:

> This kernel disables debugging.

I hope you mean the kernel isn't built with kernel debugging
turned on, not that it is now impossible to debug anything
(like user application programs :-).



From jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us  Mon Oct 26 21:08:22 2009
From: jik at kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:08:22 -0400
Subject: New kernel in F12
In-Reply-To: <1256589013.2314.567.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256589013.2314.567.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <00a401ca5680$76701520$63503f60$@brookline.ma.us>

The first time I rebooted after updating from Rawhide to kernel-PAE-2.6.31.5-96.fc12.i686 yesterday, the kernel crashed with a stack trace on reboot after saying something about an APIC problem and then telling me to reboot with apic=debug and then noapic.  I unfortunately didn't write down any details about the kernel crash because I figured it would be reproducible.  I rebooted with apic=debug and it didn't happen.  Then I rebooted again without apic=debug or noapic, i.e., the same way that had crashed the first time, and the reboot succeeded without crashing.

Is there useful information about my system that I can provide to help the kernel maintainers make something useful out of what happened to me?

  Jik





From bruno at wolff.to  Mon Oct 26 22:10:13 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:10:13 -0500
Subject: New kernel in F12
In-Reply-To: <1256589013.2314.567.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256589013.2314.567.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20091026221013.GA24335@wolff.to>

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 13:30:13 -0700,
  Adam Williamson  wrote:
> Just a note that the kernel build in F12 was updated over the weekend,
> from 56 (which shipped in beta) to 96. This has quite a few changes
> queued up, so if all F12 testers can please reboot and make sure the new
> kernel works, that'd be great.

96 is old news now, but I did run it for a bit. The kernels starting on Friday
seem to help with some crashes I had been having that I suspected of being
KMS / ATI related. The 97 kernel seems to be working well as well.

One odd thing I have been seeing lately is a timeout while trying to
detect one of my two disks. Things work OK afterwards, but I didn't used
to see those messages. Usually it is ATA3 that gets the warning, but I think
I also got it for ATA4 a couple of times. The disks are old, so it could
be a change in the status of the hardware rather than the kernel.



From kdekorte at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 22:38:05 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:38:05 -0600
Subject: New kernel in F12
In-Reply-To: <20091026221013.GA24335@wolff.to>
References: <1256589013.2314.567.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20091026221013.GA24335@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <4AE624CD.3070101@gmail.com>

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On 10/26/09 16:10, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 13:30:13 -0700,
>   Adam Williamson  wrote:
>> Just a note that the kernel build in F12 was updated over the weekend,
>> from 56 (which shipped in beta) to 96. This has quite a few changes
>> queued up, so if all F12 testers can please reboot and make sure the new
>> kernel works, that'd be great.
> 
> 96 is old news now, but I did run it for a bit. The kernels starting on Friday
> seem to help with some crashes I had been having that I suspected of being
> KMS / ATI related. The 97 kernel seems to be working well as well.
> 
> One odd thing I have been seeing lately is a timeout while trying to
> detect one of my two disks. Things work OK afterwards, but I didn't used
> to see those messages. Usually it is ATA3 that gets the warning, but I think
> I also got it for ATA4 a couple of times. The disks are old, so it could
> be a change in the status of the hardware rather than the kernel.
> 


I have to agree that the -97 kernel appears to be a better choice than
- -96 for r6xx users. If fixes the corruption issues in flash and qemu and
also does not need the pcie_aspm=off kernel option (as far as I can tell).

Kevin

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From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 23:08:31 2009
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:08:31 +0500
Subject: system-config-display in F12 Beta fails with nouveau/Nvidia 
	FX5200
In-Reply-To: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
References: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
Message-ID: <78323d480910261608v798e2456k328eeedddce10b9f@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Joachim Backes
 wrote:
> I installed F12 Beta from scratch, and X11 was installed on my 1280x1024
> screen correctly (Video card Nvidia FX5200) with the nouveau driver.
>
> Now I tried to install a new xorg.conf by using system-config-display (for
> experimental reasons), but it failed with and without the --reconfig option.
>
> Somebody made similar experiences?
>



Yes, I updated rawhide and after installing s-c-d and configuring it
got a drm related problem.

X86-64, GeForce6100 nForce 410

It worked fine with nouveau previously. I think the problem has been
introduced at the ~beta stage.

Best

A. Mani



-- 
A. Mani
ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://www.logicamani.co.cc



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct 26 23:55:16 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:55:16 -0400
Subject: F12 task#42 - Upcoming pre-rawhide install testing
Message-ID: <1256601316.2397.106.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Greetings folks,

Just a heads up on an upcoming team milestone this week.  Task#42 in the
Quality schedule [1] lists a pre-RC rawhide install test run from 10-28
to 11-04.  Originally, I envisioned this test run focusing on...

      * retesting updated anaconda changes, much like Liam organized on
        the lead up to the beta [2]
      * verification of MODIFIED F12Blocker bugs [3]

I think there is plenty of valuable work in the verification steps above
(especially with the fixes coming in since the beta release).  However,
since the time between beta and ga is shorter with the F12 schedule,
does it make sense to adjust the plan for this test run?

Thanks,
James

[1]
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-quality-tasks.html
[2]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-September/msg00298.html
[3]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F12Blocker&hide_resolved=1
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From ryniker at alum.mit.edu  Tue Oct 27 01:43:36 2009
From: ryniker at alum.mit.edu (Richard Ryniker)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:43:36 -0400
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <373c76480910261128x5c9607f7s142181cf68dc2a8e@mail.gmail.com>
	(hobbes1069@gmail.com)
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AE5B402.8000102@gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0910260749j7a997bcak3696ce1aa0cb7e37@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AE5BDEB.9040404@gmail.com>
	<1256579271.27324.58.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<373c76480910261128x5c9607f7s142181cf68dc2a8e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

>especially with the system-config-* group of
>apps. My current solution is to learn the number of TABs that get me
>to the "OK" button.

Alt-left_mouse-drag can be useful to move the window upwards so the
buttons are visible at the bottom of the window.

This is configurable in System->Preferences->Windows (but you must
install the control-center-extra package in F12).



From bruno at wolff.to  Tue Oct 27 02:12:39 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:12:39 -0500
Subject: New kernel in F12
In-Reply-To: <4AE624CD.3070101@gmail.com>
References: <1256589013.2314.567.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20091026221013.GA24335@wolff.to> <4AE624CD.3070101@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091027021239.GA24795@wolff.to>

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 16:38:05 -0600,
  Kevin DeKorte  wrote:
> 
> I have to agree that the -97 kernel appears to be a better choice than
> - -96 for r6xx users. If fixes the corruption issues in flash and qemu and
> also does not need the pcie_aspm=off kernel option (as far as I can tell).

When a kernel is built by a graphics guy it is a good bet that it solves
some graphics problems.

Also the 1.7.1 X server is in koji now. I don't know that it helps with
stuff I was seeing, but it doesn't seem to have hurt on one of my machines.
I plan to have it on another one tonight.



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 02:52:54 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:52:54 -0700
Subject: Python 3.1.1 along side python-2.6.2 in FC12?
Message-ID: 

Greetings:

this might be a easy and simple question, but I do not want to fry my
existing system with installing python-3.1.1 beside it???

Sincerely yours,
Rob G. Healey
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From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 27 02:52:03 2009
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:22:03 +0530
Subject: Python 3.1.1 along side python-2.6.2 in FC12?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4AE66053.1090601@fedoraproject.org>

On 10/27/2009 08:22 AM, Rob Healey wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> this might be a easy and simple question, but I do not want to fry my
> existing system with installing python-3.1.1 beside it???

Look at

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526126

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python3F13

Rahul



From caf at omen.com  Tue Oct 27 05:49:29 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:49:29 -0700
Subject: Problems installing Today's Rawhide
Message-ID: <4AE689E9.50303@omen.com>

AMD 6000+, ATI 2600XT:  moving the cursor around in the
time zone selector causes keys to be ignored.  If the
default time zone is left, Rawhide locks up with a blank screen
while formatting the root partition.

Core 2 duo - enabling the installation of X dev files causes a
file conflict.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
   Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de  Tue Oct 27 06:02:07 2009
From: joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de (Joachim Backes)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:02:07 +0100
Subject: system-config-display in F12 Beta fails with nouveau/Nvidia
	FX5200
In-Reply-To: <1256587427.2314.558.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
	<1256587427.2314.558.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AE68CDF.6010107@rhrk.uni-kl.de>

On 10/26/2009 09:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 08:20 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> I installed F12 Beta from scratch, and X11 was installed on my 1280x1024
>> screen correctly (Video card Nvidia FX5200) with the nouveau driver.
>>
>> Now I tried to install a new xorg.conf by using system-config-display
>> (for experimental reasons), but it failed with and without the
>> --reconfig option.
>>
>> Somebody made similar experiences?
>
> system-config-display has its own auto-detection logic which is not the
> same as X.org's. For most cards it gets the same result, but not all.
> For NVIDIA cards, s-c-d will give you a config that tries to use the
> 'nv' driver, not 'nouveau'. This fails because the nouveau kernel driver
> gets loaded automatically on boot, and nv won't work as long as the
> nouveau kernel module is loaded.
>
> If you just change the 'nv' in the xorg.conf to 'nouveau' it ought to
> work. I'll update your bug to explain the problem (and provide a patch,
> if I'm un-lazy enough).

Hi Adam,

this may be OK, but, rather weird,  my system contains *no* xorg.conf, 
but it is fully running with the Gnome desktop. How to modify a 
no-existing file :-)
>


-- 

Joachim Backes 

http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes


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From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 06:19:22 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:19:22 -0700
Subject: system-config-display in F12 Beta fails with nouveau/Nvidia
 FX5200
In-Reply-To: <4AE68CDF.6010107@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
References: <4AE54DC4.1000607@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
	<1256587427.2314.558.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4AE68CDF.6010107@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
Message-ID: <1256624362.2314.576.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 07:02 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:

> Hi Adam,
> 
> this may be OK, but, rather weird,  my system contains *no* xorg.conf, 
> but it is fully running with the Gnome desktop. How to modify a 
> no-existing file :-)

Well if it's working there's not a problem? I was only advising what to
do if s-c-d generates an xorg.conf for you which tries to use nv, and
consequently X fails. If X is working, you don't need to do anything.

If there's no xorg.conf (which is quite usual for the last few releases,
it's the default situation) then you're just using X.org's own
auto-detection routines, which will choose nouveau. Which is what we
wanted.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 27 07:26:32 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:26:32 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091027072632.8D5E010F87E@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    Django-1.1.1-2.fc11
    Django-south-0.6.1-1.fc11
    GMT-4.5.0-4.fc11
    asterisk-1.6.1.7-0.4.rc2.fc11
    audacious-plugins-1.5.1-14.fc11
    bauble-0.9.5-2.fc11
    blazeblogger-1.0.0-1.fc11
    cduce-0.5.2.1-14.fc11.2
    childsplay-1.4-2.fc11
    csound-5.10.1-13.fc11
    dovecot-1.2.6-3.fc11
    environment-modules-3.2.7b-5.fc11
    eric-4.3.8-1.fc11
    f-spot-0.6.1.3-1.fc11
    florence-0.4.4-1.fc11
    gcl-2.6.8-0.4.20090701cvs.fc11
    gcompris-8.4.13-1.fc11
    geoclue-0.11.1.1-0.9.1.20091026git73b6729.fc11
    gnome-user-share-2.28.0-1.fc11
    gnome-user-share-2.28.1-1.fc11
    gnomecatalog-0.3.4.2-3.fc11
    gnumeric-1.8.4-5.fc11
    goffice-0.6.6-4.fc11
    gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-4.fc11
    hosts3d-1.05-1.fc11
    hplip-3.9.8-15.fc11
    ibus-table-1.2.0.20091014-2.fc11
    libotf-0.9.9-3.fc11
    libsigsegv-2.6-6.fc11
    libv4l-0.6.3-1.fc11
    mathgl-1.9-6.fc11.1
    mcabber-0.9.10-1.fc11
    memtest86+-4.00-2.fc11
    midori-0.2.0-1.fc11
    mod_security-2.5.10-1.fc11
    moreutils-0.37-1.fc11
    netpbm-10.47.04-1.fc11
    nrpe-2.12-12.fc11
    ntop-3.3.10-2.fc11
    octave-3.2.3-1.fc11
    octave-forge-20090607-15.fc11
    openmpi-1.3.3-6.fc11
    openscada-0.6.4-4.fc11
    openvrml-0.18.3-7.fc11
    parole-0.1.90-3.fc11
    pciutils-3.1.4-3.fc11
    perl-MooseX-POE-0.205-1.fc11
    pfstools-1.7.0-8.fc11
    pipestat-0.3.0-2.fc11
    plplot-5.9.5-1.fc11
    postgresql-8.3.8-2.fc11
    py-radix-0.5-6.fc11
    python-cheetah-2.2.2-2.fc11
    python-fedora-0.3.16-1.fc11
    python-mpmath-0.13-5.fc11
    python-tg-devtools-2.0.2-4.fc11
    python-virtinst-0.400.3-12.fc11
    python-zope-sqlalchemy-0.4-1.fc11
    qemu-0.10.6-9.fc11
    qgis-1.0.2-1.fc11.1
    qjackctl-0.3.5-1.fc11
    rubygem-actionpack-2.3.2-3.fc11
    rubygem-activerecord-2.3.2-4.fc11
    smb4k-0.10.4-1.fc11
    snort-2.8.5.1-1.fc11
    squidGuard-1.4-8.fc11
    sssd-0.7.0-1.fc11
    sssd-0.7.0-2.fc11
    stfl-0.21-7.fc11
    strace-4.5.19-1.fc11
    tellico-2.0-1.fc11
    tesseract-2.04-1.fc11
    texlive-2007-46.fc11
    texlive-texmf-2007-31.fc11
    thunar-vcs-plugin-0.1.1-1.fc11
    totem-2.26.4-2.fc11
    wxGTK-2.8.10-4.fc11
    wxMaxima-0.8.3a-1.fc11
    x11vnc-0.9.8-14.fc11
    xastir-1.9.6-1.fc11
    zyx-liveinstaller-0.1.14-1.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 Django-1.1.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10802)
 A high-level Python Web framework
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

No more "*.po" files.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner  - 1.1.1-2
- Removed po files per BZ#529188.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529188 - Django RPM includes "*.po" files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529188
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 Django-south-0.6.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10728)
 Intelligent schema migrations for Django apps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Here is where you give an explanation of your update.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Diego B?rigo Zacar?o  0.6.1-1
- Updated to 0.6.1 Release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530614 - south 0.6.1 bugfix release
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530614
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 GMT-4.5.0-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10548)
 Generic Mapping Tools
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream Octave (3.2.3).  This is a major upgrade, so please
save your output data before running any new octave scripts.  Other packages
have been rebuilt to match new API (v37).    This may also fix some other
outstanding bugs in the old 3.0.x Octave release, so please upgrade and provide
feedback here, or on the attached bugs if it fixes problems you had with the
3.0.x release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Jul 31 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 4.5.0-4
- Rebuild against Octave 3.2.2
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 4.5.0-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 4.5.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529522 - Fails to build against octave-3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529522
  [ 2 ] Bug #525423 - RFE: Octave 3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525423
  [ 3 ] Bug #513381 - octave uses reference blas instead of ATLAS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513381
  [ 4 ] Bug #492155 - octave's function glpk broken due to "undefined symbol: _glp_lib_fault_hook"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492155
  [ 5 ] Bug #524136 - saving graphs in octave
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524136
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 asterisk-1.6.1.7-0.4.rc2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10724)
 The Open Source PBX
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.4.rc2 - Add an
AST_EXTRA_ARGS option to the init script - have the init script to cd to
/var/spool/asterisk to prevent annoying message * Sat Oct 24 2009 Jeffrey C.
Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.3.rc2 - Compile against gmime 2.2 instead of
gmime 2.4 because the patch to convert the API calls from 2.2 to 2.4 caused
crashes. * Fri Oct  9 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.2.rc2
- Require latex2html used in static-http documents
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.4.rc2
- Add an AST_EXTRA_ARGS option to the init script
- have the init script to cd to /var/spool/asterisk to prevent annoying message
* Sat Oct 24 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.3.rc2
- Compile against gmime 2.2 instead of gmime 2.4 because the patch to convert the API calls from 2.2 to 2.4 caused crashes.
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.2.rc2
- Require latex2html used in static-http documents
* Thu Oct  8 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.1.rc2
- Update to 1.6.1.7-rc2
- Merge firmware subpackage back into main package
- No longer need to strip tarball since it no longer contains any non-free items
- Tighten up permissions/ownership of config files.
- Fix up some more paths
- Drop unneeded patch
* Wed Sep  9 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.6-2
- Enable building of API docs.
- Depend on version 1.2 or newer of speex
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527789 - RFE: Change some file permissions and ownership for asterisk RPM
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527789
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 audacious-plugins-1.5.1-14.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10685)
 Plugins for the Audacious media player
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Patch "pulse_audio" output plugin to not get confused by volume level changes
passed in via callback. Volume level now doesn't change when starting the next
track.  * Patch "pulse_audio" output plugin to not suffer from precision-loss
when saving the volume level in Audacious config file.  * Patch alsa-ng plugin
with some buffer prefilling to fight underruns.  * Merge minor changes from 2.2
alpha1 alsa-ng plugin.    [Please note that if you use external mixers / volume
controls  to alter the volume level, Audacious older than 2.2 (which is still
being developed) does not reflect that with its own volume slider. So, if you
switch between multiple volume controls often, you can experience big jumps in
volume level going up/down.]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-14
- Set buffer_time_min in underruns patch. Depend on default buffer size.
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-13
- Patch pulseaudio plugin to not suffer from precision loss when
  calculating the volume level to save.
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-12
- Patch pulseaudio plugin to not get confused by volume values passed
  in via callback.
* Sat Sep 19 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-11
- Patch alsa-ng plugin with some buffer prefilling to fight underruns.
- Merge minor changes from 2.2 alpha1 alsa-ng plugin.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bauble-0.9.5-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10797)
 Biodiversity collection manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

newpackage.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491980 - Review Request: bauble -  Biodiversity collection manager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491980
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 blazeblogger-1.0.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10807)
 A simple to use but capable CMS for the command line
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Features    * Added core.processor configuration option, making it possible to
specify an external application or applications to be used to process the
entries. Thanks to this feature, the usage of whatever markup language suites
people the best is now simply matter of a single configuration option.  * Added
%tag[name]% placeholder, making it always return valid relative path to the tag
with given name.  * Distinguished repository creation from its recovery.  *
Avoided rewriting existing stylesheet when it is exactly the same as the
original; patch by Matthew Woehlke.    Bug Fixes    * blaze-config now displays
proper default value even though the requested option is not actually found in
the configuration file.  * Temporary files are now removed once they are not
needed any more.  * Added version information to manual pages.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  1.0.0-1
- update to new upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cduce-0.5.2.1-14.fc11.2 (FEDORA-2009-10801)
 Modern XML-oriented functional language
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Bump to fix libcurl broken dependency.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 0.5.2.1-14.2
- Bump to fix broken dependency (RHBZ#531019).
* Wed Jun 17 2009 S390x secondary arch maintainer  0.5.2.1-14.1
- ExcludeArch s390, s390x as we don't have OCaml on those archs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #531019 - Wrong dependency for cduce
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531019
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 childsplay-1.4-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10804)
 Suite of educational games for young children
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Johan Cwiklinski  1.4-2
- fix get_locale issue (bug #530599)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530599 - Coding error in:  /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/childsplay_sp/utils.py
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530599
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 csound-5.10.1-13.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10817)
 A sound synthesis language and library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Peter Robinson  - 5.10.1-13
- Fix use of multiple midi devices, fix segfault (RHBZ 529293)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 dovecot-1.2.6-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10859)
 Secure imap and pop3 server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- imap-login: If imap_capability is set, show it in the banner instead of the
default (#524485)  - sieve updated to 0.1.13 which brings these changes:  - Body
extension: implemented proper handling of the :raw transform and added various
new tests to the test suite. However, :content "multipart" and :content
"message/rfc822" are still not working.  - Fixed race condition occuring when
multiple instances are saving the same binary  - Body extension: don't give
SKIP_BODY_BLOCK flag to message parser, we want the body!  - Fixed bugs in
multiscript support; subsequent keep actions were not always merged correctly
and implicit side effects were not always handled correctly.      - Fixed a
segfault bug in the sieve-test tool occuring when compile fails.  - Fixed
segfault bug in action procesing. It was triggered while merging side effects in
duplicate actions.  - Fixed bug in the Sieve plugin that caused it to try to
stat() a NULL path, yielding a 'Bad address' error.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:1.2.6-3
- imap-login: If imap_capability is set, show it in the banner 
  instead of the default (#524485)
- sieve updated to 0.1.13 which brings these changes:
- Body extension: implemented proper handling of the :raw transform
  and added various new tests to the test suite. However, :content
  "multipart" and :content "message/rfc822" are still not working.
- Fixed race condition occuring when multiple instances are saving the
  same binary (patch by Timo Sirainen).
- Body extension: don't give SKIP_BODY_BLOCK flag to message parser,
  we want the body!
- Fixed bugs in multiscript support; subsequent keep actions were not
  always merged correctly and implicit side effects were not always
  handled correctly.
- Fixed a segfault bug in the sieve-test tool occuring when compile
  fails.
- Fixed segfault bug in action procesing. It was triggered while
  merging side effects in duplicate actions.
- Fixed bug in the Sieve plugin that caused it to try to stat() a NULL
  path, yielding a 'Bad address' error.
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 1:1.2.6-2
- fix init script for case when no action was specified
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524485 - dovecot-1.2.5-1 ignores "imap_capability"-configuration
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524485
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 environment-modules-3.2.7b-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10725)
 Provides dynamic modification of a user's environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 3.2.7b-5
- Don't assume different shell init scripts exist (bug #530770)
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 3.2.7b-4
- Don't load bash init script when bash is running as "sh" (bug #529745)
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 3.2.7b-3
- Support different flavors of "sh" (bug #529493)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530770 - environment-modules.i686 0:3.2.7b-4.fc12 breaks (at least) gdm
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530770
  [ 2 ] Bug #529493 - Bash specific feature in /etc/profile.d/modules.sh causes KSH errors.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529493
  [ 3 ] Bug #529745 - Loading modules from a script fails with environment-modules >3.6.8
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529745
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 eric-4.3.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10855)
 Python IDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Johan Cwiklinski  4.3.8-1
- 4.3.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 f-spot-0.6.1.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10834)
 Photo management application
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream version 0.6.1.3 with lots of bug fixes.    The detailed
changelog can be found here:
http://f-spot.org/News#f-spot_0.6.1.3_-_Sep_28_2009_-_Bare_Feet_In_The_Grass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Christian Krause  - 0.6.1.3-1
- Update to 0.6.1.3 (BZ 526217)
- Remove two upstreamed patches
- Use a slightly different fix for the cairo-devel dependency
  (suggested by upstream)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 florence-0.4.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10820)
 Extensible scalable on-screen virtual keyboard for GNOME
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

0.4.3 -> 0.4.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Simon Wesp  - 0.4.4-1
- New upstream release
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Simon Wesp  - 0.4.3-1
- New upstream release
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.4.2-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gcl-2.6.8-0.4.20090701cvs.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10819)
 GNU Common Lisp
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes the SELinux policy for confined users.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Jerry James  - 2.6.8-0.6.20090701cvs
- Update SELinux policy for confined users (bz 529757)
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Jerry James  - 2.6.8-0.3.20090701cvs
- Update SELinux files to give compiled maxima files the right context
- Update to 20090701 CVS snapshot, fixes bz 511483
- Break fix for  out into a separate patch and do it right
- Add -plt patch to fix reading of PLT info
- Add -ellipsis patch to eliminate nondeterministic behavior
- Minor spec file cleanups
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496124 - maxima-runtime-gcl: segfault
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496124
  [ 2 ] Bug #529757 - Fix up gcl SELinux code.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529757
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gcompris-8.4.13-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10760)
 Educational suite for kids 2-10 years old
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Johan Cwiklinski  8.4.13-1
- New upstream bugfix release 8.4.13
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 geoclue-0.11.1.1-0.9.1.20091026git73b6729.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10717)
 A modular geoinformation service
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Peter Robinson  0.11.1.1-0.9.1
- Drop nm08 patch
* Sat Oct 24 2009 Peter Robinson  0.11.1.1-0.9
- New git snapshit, enable NetworkManager support for WiFi location, gsmloc and new Skyhook plugin
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.11.1.1-0.8.20090310git3a31d26
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Jul 23 2009 Peter Robinson  0.11.1.1-0.7
- Move develop documentation to its own noarch package to fix RHBZ 513488
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnome-user-share-2.28.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10764)
 Gnome user file sharing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updated version from upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.0-1
- Update to 2.28.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnome-user-share-2.28.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10825)
 Gnome user file sharing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Numerous bug fixes for WebDAV and Obex sharing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.0-1
- Update to 2.28.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnomecatalog-0.3.4.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10766)
 Catalog Software for Gnome Desktop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Test the permissions of catalog files especially in /tmp
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Marc Wiriadisastra  - 0.3.4.2-3
- Patch for permissions added thanks to Alexander Ovcharenko
- Closes bug bz 509237
- Clean up the spec file removing the F9 python-setuptools buildrequires
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.3.4.2-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #509237 - gnomecatalog doesn't show catalog
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509237
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnumeric-1.8.4-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10767)
 Spreadsheet program for GNOME
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Applied 4 patches from the 1.8 stable branch (#500890, #505001):    2009-01-29:
Backport of fix for CVE-2009-0318 in Python [Upstream #569648]  2009-03-09: Fix
problem with dialogs not showing up in fullscreen mode. [Upstream #574602]
2009-03-14: Clear the 'im_block_edit_start' flag. (gnm_pane_unrealize) : set the
flag.  2009-04-30: Work around gtk+ 2.16 ABI break re spinbuttons.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Robert Scheck  1:1.8.4-5
- Applied 4 patches from the 1.8 stable branch (#500890, #505001)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500890 - [patch] can't edit sheet after reopening from "recent"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500890
  [ 2 ] Bug #505001 - Gnumeric build badly needs upstream fix for GTK behavior change
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505001
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 goffice-0.6.6-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10721)
 Goffice support libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Applied 3 patches from the 0.6 branch (#503068, #505001)    2009-02-19: Fixed
crash when adding series to bar chart. [Upstream #572354]  2009-03-06: don't
show a marker in the legend. [Upstream #574340] skip points when the datum is
2009-05-01: Patch foocanvas to work around behaviour change in gtk 2.14.
[Upstream #566652]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Robert Scheck  - 0.6.6-4
- Applied 3 patches from the 0.6 branch (#503068, #505001)
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.6.6-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #503068 - Graph fails to release upon drag-move in v. 1.8.2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503068
  [ 2 ] Bug #505001 - Gnumeric build badly needs upstream fix for GTK behavior change
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505001
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10747)
 GStreamer plug-ins with good code and licensing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix lowering volume when switching tracks in Totem or Rhythmbox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-4
- Fix pulsesink not advertising the StreamVolume interface
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-3
- Finally fix pulsesink volume lowering problems (#488532)
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-2
- Fix autoconvert caps negotiation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #488532 - each time totem advances to next track volume goes down a bit
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488532
  [ 2 ] Bug #512090 - Totem volume slider weird behaviour - exponential effect in PulseAudio
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512090
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 hosts3d-1.05-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10773)
 3D real-time network visualiser
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

1.03 -> 1.05
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Simon Wesp  - 1.05-1
- New upstream release
* Mon Oct  5 2009 Simon Wesp  - 1.04-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 hplip-3.9.8-15.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10759)
 HP Linux Imaging and Printing Project
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Added parallel port support and fixed connection retry policy.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Tim Waugh  3.9.8-15
- Retry when connecting to device fails (bug #528483).
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Tim Waugh  3.9.8-14
- Give up trying to print a job to a reconnected device (bug #515481).
* Wed Sep 23 2009 Tim Waugh  3.9.8-13
- Enable parallel port support when configuring (bug #524979).
- Fixed hp-setup traceback when discovery page is skipped (bug #523685).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524979 - hplip does not support parallel port printers
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524979
  [ 2 ] Bug #528483 - Hplip does not resume printing when network printer comes online
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528483
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ibus-table-1.2.0.20091014-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10753)
 The Table engine for IBus platform
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance  - 1.2.0.20091014-2.fc11
- Fixed unresolved deps.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libotf-0.9.9-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10821)
 A Library for handling OpenType Font
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Neal Becker  - 0.9.9-3
- Add BR libXaw-devel (BR 530586)
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Neal Becker  - 0.9.9-2
- Remove libotf-config (just just pkg-config instead)
- Remove example/Makefile to fix multilib conflict
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530586 - libotf build requires libXaw-devel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530586
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libsigsegv-2.6-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10762)
 Library for handling page faults in user mode
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 22 2009 Rex Dieter  - 2.6-6
- respin mystack patch
* Tue Sep 22 2009 Rex Dieter  - 2.6-5
- libsigsegv allocates alternate stack on the main stack (#524796)
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.6-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Jul 16 2009 Rex Dieter  - 2.6-3
- move libsigsegv.so.* to /lib (#512219, F-12+)
- %doc: -ChangeLog, +COPYING
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524795 - libsigsegv allocates alternate stack on the main stack
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524795
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libv4l-0.6.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10768)
 Collection of video4linux support libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream libv4l release with more upside down laptop cams recognized (and
the image corrected).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 25 2009 Hans de Goede  0.6.3-1
- New upstream release 0.6.3
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Hans de Goede  0.6.2-1
- New upstream release 0.6.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mathgl-1.9-6.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-10548)
 Cross-platform library for making high-quality scientific graphics
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream Octave (3.2.3).  This is a major upgrade, so please
save your output data before running any new octave scripts.  Other packages
have been rebuilt to match new API (v37).    This may also fix some other
outstanding bugs in the old 3.0.x Octave release, so please upgrade and provide
feedback here, or on the attached bugs if it fixes problems you had with the
3.0.x release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 1.9-6.1
- Rebuild for new Octave 3.2.x and new SWIG (#529522)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529522 - Fails to build against octave-3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529522
  [ 2 ] Bug #525423 - RFE: Octave 3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525423
  [ 3 ] Bug #513381 - octave uses reference blas instead of ATLAS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513381
  [ 4 ] Bug #492155 - octave's function glpk broken due to "undefined symbol: _glp_lib_fault_hook"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492155
  [ 5 ] Bug #524136 - saving graphs in octave
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524136
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mcabber-0.9.10-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10757)
 Console Jabber instant messaging client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release  Use enchant in place of aspell
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Michael Fleming  - 0.9.10-1
- Update to 0.9.10 (bz# 527738)
- Switch to enchant for spellchecking (bz# 523963)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527738 - New release of mcabber available
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527738
  [ 2 ] Bug #523963 - move mcabber to enchant instead of aspell
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523963
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 memtest86+-4.00-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10852)
 Stand-alone memory tester for x86 and x86-64 computers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix memtest-setup on systems w/o separate /boot, build with gcc4, new upstream
release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Jarod Wilson  - 4.00-2
- Fix memtest-setup on systems without a separate /boot
  filesystem (#528651)
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Jarod Wilson  - 4.00-1
- Update to new upstream release, v4.00
- Drop gcc4.2+ patch, merged upstream
* Mon Aug 17 2009 Jarod Wilson  - 2.11-11
- Fix runtime operation when built with gcc4.2+ (#442285)
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.11-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528651 - Wrong grub setup if /boot is a part of /
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528651
  [ 2 ] Bug #442285 - Solve real cause of #437701 and rebuild memtest86+ with GCC 4.3
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442285
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 midori-0.2.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10836)
 A lightweight GTK+ web browser
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Midori 0.2.0 contains many bugfixes and enhancements, such as drag-scrolling on
touchscreen devices, Speed Dial fixes, faster AdBlock (for all WebKitGTK+
versions), updated DNS and IDN handling, new form history extension, and various
bookmark and history fixes.    For a full list of changes in this version,
please see the upstream changelog at:
http://git.xfce.org/apps/midori/tree/ChangeLog
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Peter Gordon  - 0.2.0-1
- Update to new upstream release (0.2.0): Drag-scroll on touchscreen devices,
  Speed Dial fixes, faster AdBlock (for all WebKitGTK+ versions), updated DNS
  and IDN handling, new form history extension, various bookmark and history
  fixes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mod_security-2.5.10-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10722)
 Security module for the Apache HTTP Server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updates to 2.5.10 and new Core Rules version 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Michael Fleming  - 2.5.10-1
- Upgrade to 2.5.10 (with Core Rules v2)
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.5.9-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 moreutils-0.37-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10775)
 Additional unix utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Marc Bradshaw  0.37-1.fc11
- new upstream version 0.36 released with these changes
- * parallel: Clarify man page regarding CPUs. Closes: #536597
- * parallel: Add -n option. Thanks, Pierre Habouzit. Closes: #537992 (As a side effect, fixes a segfault if -- was omitted.)
- * parallel.1: Typo fixes. Closes: #538147
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.36-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 netpbm-10.47.04-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10854)
 A library for handling different graphics file formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Jindrich Novy  10.47.04-1
- update to 10.47.04 (it is now stable) (#529525)
- fixes #502917, #482850, #482847
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529525 - Documentation in RPM is for version 10.44, binaries are for 10.35
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529525
  [ 2 ] Bug #502917 - The man page for pbmtext needs to display a backslash
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502917
  [ 3 ] Bug #482850 - man page for pammixinterlace talks about unsupported options
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=482850
  [ 4 ] Bug #482847 - man page for pamfunc talks about unsupported options
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=482847
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nrpe-2.12-12.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10782)
 Host/service/network monitoring agent for Nagios
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

%changelog  * Mon Oct 26 2009 Peter Lemenkov  - 2.12-12  -
Do not own %%{_libdir}/nagios/plugins ( bz# 528974 )  - Fixed building against
tcp_wrappers in Fedora ( bz# 528974 )
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Peter Lemenkov  - 2.12-12
- Do not own %{_libdir}/nagios/plugins ( bz# 528974 )
- Fixed building against tcp_wrappers in Fedora ( bz# 528974 )
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528974 - nrpe: ownership problems, build requirements problems, ...
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528974
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 ntop-3.3.10-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10425)
 A network traffic probe similar to the UNIX top command
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* CVE-2009-2732 ntop: NULL pointer dereference by HTTP Basic Authentication    *
Updated to 3.3.10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Rakesh Pandit  - 3.3.10-2
- Added missing BR libevent-devel, lua-devel
* Thu Oct  8 2009 Rakesh Pandit  - 3.3.10-1
- Patch7: ntop-http_c_user.patch for #518264 (CVE-2009-2732)
- Updated to 3.3.10
- Removed umask patch - already upstream
- Added lua patch for preventing wget
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #518264 - CVE-2009-2732 ntop: NULL pointer dereference by HTTP Basic Authentication (DoS)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518264
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 octave-3.2.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10548)
 A high-level language for numerical computations
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream Octave (3.2.3).  This is a major upgrade, so please
save your output data before running any new octave scripts.  Other packages
have been rebuilt to match new API (v37).    This may also fix some other
outstanding bugs in the old 3.0.x Octave release, so please upgrade and provide
feedback here, or on the attached bugs if it fixes problems you had with the
3.0.x release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 6:3.2.3-1
- Update to 3.2.3
- Re-add make check
* Tue Sep 22 2009 Rakesh Pandit  - 6:3.2.2-5
- Added categories to desktop file: Education, DataVisualization, NumericalAnalysis
* Mon Sep  7 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 6:3.2.2-4
- Rebuild against new ATLAS
* Sun Sep  6 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 6:3.2.2-3
- Disable make check temporarily to get a build against newly fixed lapack
* Wed Sep  2 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 6:3.2.2-2
- Add make check
* Fri Jul 31 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 6:3.2.2-1
- Update to latest upstream (3.2.2).
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 6:3.2.0-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Jul 13 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 6:3.2.0-2
- Added BR: ftgl-devel for native graphics.
- Dropped obsolete X-Fedora category from desktop file.
- Macro use unifications.
- Branch documentation into its own subpackage.
* Sat Jul 11 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 6:3.2.0-1
- Update to latest upstream (3.2.0).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529522 - Fails to build against octave-3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529522
  [ 2 ] Bug #525423 - RFE: Octave 3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525423
  [ 3 ] Bug #513381 - octave uses reference blas instead of ATLAS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513381
  [ 4 ] Bug #492155 - octave's function glpk broken due to "undefined symbol: _glp_lib_fault_hook"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492155
  [ 5 ] Bug #524136 - saving graphs in octave
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524136
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 octave-forge-20090607-15.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10548)
 Contributed functions for octave
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream Octave (3.2.3).  This is a major upgrade, so please
save your output data before running any new octave scripts.  Other packages
have been rebuilt to match new API (v37).    This may also fix some other
outstanding bugs in the old 3.0.x Octave release, so please upgrade and provide
feedback here, or on the attached bugs if it fixes problems you had with the
3.0.x release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep  7 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-15
- Re-enable 'fixed' subpackage, builds now, this closes #510841
- ftp, graceplot and spanish packages need fixing upstream, leave
  disabled for the moment
* Mon Sep  7 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-14
- Re-enable java subpackage, now building
- Rebuild against new atlas, fixes the ieee warnings.
* Sun Sep  6 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-13
- Rebuild against new lapack/octave combination to fix ieee problem
* Mon Aug 31 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-12
- Add patch from upstream SVN (r6073) for 'vrml'
- Disable 'fixed' package again, patch fixed the build but fails at
  install-time on i686 probably for similar reasons java- fails to
  install
* Mon Aug 31 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-11
- Fixed shell globbing in build and install sections that missed
  packages with subminor versions (thanks Dmitri Sergatskov)
- Add patch from upstream SVN (r5936) to build fixed-0.7.10 package 
- Renumber patches
* Mon Aug 31 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-10
- Re-enable parallel package, fixed in upstream SVN (diff r5742:6118)
- Disable include patch, now part of parallel patch
* Mon Aug 31 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-9
- Temporarily disable java build again
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-8
- Add patch from upstream SVN (r6098) to fix 'java' build.
- Disable spanish package: doesn't build with Octave 3.2
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-7
- More build failures: remove java, report upstream as (yet) another
  broken package.
* Wed Aug 19 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-6
- More build failures: temporarily disable graceplot, report upstream
  as (yet) another broken package.
* Wed Aug 19 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-5
- Disable 'parallel' and associated patches temporarily just to get
  the whole thing to build and fix broken deps (upstream working on
  it)
* Wed Aug 19 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-4
- Add patch from SVN upstream (r6116) to fix build of parallel package
  (bump version of package to 2.0.1)
* Tue Aug 18 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-3
- Temporarily remove ftp because of build problems with SWIG upstream.
* Sat Aug  1 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-2
- Add patch from SVN (r6006) which has SWIG fixes for ann module.
* Fri Jul 31 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20090607-1
- Apply patch from Jussi Lehtola  to
  update to 20090607
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 20080831-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Jul  9 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 20080831-9
- Rebuild for dependencies
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529522 - Fails to build against octave-3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529522
  [ 2 ] Bug #525423 - RFE: Octave 3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525423
  [ 3 ] Bug #513381 - octave uses reference blas instead of ATLAS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513381
  [ 4 ] Bug #492155 - octave's function glpk broken due to "undefined symbol: _glp_lib_fault_hook"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492155
  [ 5 ] Bug #524136 - saving graphs in octave
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524136
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openmpi-1.3.3-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10848)
 Open Message Passing Interface
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update backports the enhanced modules functionality from rawhide and brings
it more in line with the current packaging guidelines.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep 22 2009 Jay Fenlason  - 1.3.3-6
- Backport updated .spec file from rawhide.
- Create and own man* directories for use by dependent packages.
* Wed Sep 16 2009 Jay Fenlason  - 1.3.3-5
- Move the module file from /usr/share/Modules/modulefiles/openmpi-ppc to
  /etc/modulefiles/openmpi-ppc where it belongs.
- Have the -devel subpackage own the man1 and man7 directories for completeness.
- Add a blank line before the clean section.
- Remove --enable-mpirun-prefix-by-default from configure.
* Wed Sep  9 2009 Jay Fenlason  - 1.3.3-4
- Modify packaging to conform to
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/MPI (bz521334).
- remove --with-ft=cr from configure, as it was apparently causing problems
  for some people.
- Add librdmacm-devel and librdmacm to BuildRequires (related bz515565).
- Add openmpi-bz515567.patch to add support for the latest Chelsio device IDs
  (related bz515567).
- Add exclude-arch (s390 s390x) because we don't have required -devel packages
  there.
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.3-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Jul 21 2009 Doug Ledford  - 1.3.3-2
- Add MPI_BIN and MPI_LIB to the modules file (related bz511099)
* Tue Jul 21 2009 Doug Ledford  - 1.3.3-1
- Make sure all created dirs are owned (bz474677)
- Fix loading of pkgconfig file (bz476844)
- Resolve file conflict between us and libotf (bz496131)
- Resolve dangling symlinks issue (bz496909)
- Resolve unexpanded %{mode} issues (bz496911)
- Restore -devel subpackage (bz499851)
- Make getting the default openmpi devel environment easier (bz504357)
- Make the -devel package pull in the base package (bz459458)
- Make it easier to use alternative compilers to build package (bz246484)
* Sat Jul 18 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 1.3.1-4
- Add Provides: openmpi-devel to fix other package builds in rawhide.
* Fri May  8 2009 Lubomir Rintel  - 1.3.1-3
- Treat i586 the same way as i386
* Wed Apr 22 2009 Doug Ledford  - 1.3.1-2
- fixed broken update
- Resolves: bz496909, bz496131, bz496911
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #496131 - File conflict between openmpi and libotf in F11 rawhide branch
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496131
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openscada-0.6.4-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10798)
 Open SCADA system project
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed all broken deps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Peter Lemenkov  - 0.6.4-4
- Fixed the last broken dep
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Peter Lemenkov  - 0.6.4-3
- Fixed the rest of broken deps introduced with new sub-packages.
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.4-2
- Added of Obsoletes directive by Peter Lemenkov .
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.4-1
- The change version for release 0.6.4
- Moved Ui-VCAEngine module to the self package
- Removed QTStarter module from the main package
- Added the virtual plc, server, visStation packages
- Some cosmetics
- Fixed somes bugs Peter Lemenkov .
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.4-1
- Adding self module ICP_DAS
- Fixed Germany Language translations by Popkova Irina
- Delete openscada-0.6.3.3-openssl.patch from previouns version
- Adding the next version of the package.
* Tue Sep  1 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.3-13
- Adding Requires for webcfg, webcfgd, webvision, http and snmp
- Some cosmetics.
* Tue Aug 25 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 0.6.3.3-12
- rebuilt with new openssl
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Popkov Aleksey  - 0.6.3.3-11
- Fixed of macros find_lang for epel-5 by Peter Lemenkov .
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.6.3.3-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild.
* Tue Jul 14 2009 Popkov Aleksey  0.6.3.3-9
- Adding find_lang macros by Peter Lemenkov 
- Somes cosmetics.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openvrml-0.18.3-7.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10756)
 VRML/X3D player and runtime library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-7
- libopenvrml-devel Obsoletes: openvrml-devel.
- libopenvrml-gl Obsoletes: openvrml-gl.
- libopenvrml-gl-devel Obsoletes: openvrml-gl-devel.
- openvrml-xembed Requires: libopenvrml-gl.
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-6
- Copy README, etc. to %{_docdir} in %install so that we can use absolute
  paths with %doc; the relative form invokes an rm -rf that blows away the
  Doxygen docs.
- Moved libopenvrml.so.* to libopenvrml subpackage.
- Moved libopenvrml-gl.so.* to libopenvrml-gl subpackage.
- Moved node implementations to openvrml-nodes subpackage.
* Wed Oct 14 2009 Braden McDaniel  
- Moved jar file and javadoc to openvrml-java subpackage.
- Put openvrml-doc package contents in %{_docdir}/%{name}-%{version}.
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-5
- Actually remove Java and JavaScript backends from the main package.
* Fri Oct  2 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-4
- Separate the Java and JavaScript scripting backends into subpackages.
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-3
- Reqire mesa-libGLU-devel since there is no arch-specific libGLU-devel.
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-2
- Arch-independent Requires are not safe for multilib systems when a
  specific architecture is needed.
* Thu Aug 13 2009 Braden McDaniel   - 0.18.3-1
- Updated to 0.18.3.
* Thu Jul 23 2009 Braden McDaniel  
- Made dependencies on gecko-libs and java arch-specific.
- Removed unnecessary (redundant) dependencies on libGLU-devel and
  libXmu-devel.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 parole-0.1.90-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10398)
 Media player for the Xfce desktop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Parole is a modern simple media player based on the GStreamer framework and
written to fit well in the Xfce desktop. Parole features playback of local media
files, DVD/CD and live streams.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527840 - Review Request: parole - Media player for the Xfce desktop
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527840
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pciutils-3.1.4-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10729)
 PCI bus related utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- fix build to enable -F option (#531020)  - enable direct hardware access
method for 64bit architectures
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Michal Hlavinka  - 3.1.4-3
- fix build to enable -F option (#531020)
- enable direct hardware access method for 64bit architectures
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #531020 - lspci -F broken
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531020
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-MooseX-POE-0.205-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10815)
 Illicit Love Child of Moose and POE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 0.205.    Changes:    0.205 2009-06-26          - Fix inheritance of
events (BinGOs)                  - Add tests (BinGOs)          - Make sure that
SENDER in START methods is correct (BinGOs)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Allisson Azevedo  0.205-1
- Update to 0.205.
- Added perl(Test::Moose) to BR.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pfstools-1.7.0-8.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10548)
 Programs for handling high-dynamic range images
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream Octave (3.2.3).  This is a major upgrade, so please
save your output data before running any new octave scripts.  Other packages
have been rebuilt to match new API (v37).    This may also fix some other
outstanding bugs in the old 3.0.x Octave release, so please upgrade and provide
feedback here, or on the attached bugs if it fixes problems you had with the
3.0.x release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.7.0-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Jun  9 2009 Ville Skytt?  - 1.7.0-7
- Patch to generate useful debuginfo subpackage (#499912).
- Disable autotools dependency tracking during build for cleaner build logs
  and possible slight build speedup.
* Sun May 10 2009 Ulrich Drepper  - 1.7.0-6
- fix up spec file.  Remove unnecessary code.
- fix comparison of strings
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529522 - Fails to build against octave-3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529522
  [ 2 ] Bug #525423 - RFE: Octave 3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525423
  [ 3 ] Bug #513381 - octave uses reference blas instead of ATLAS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513381
  [ 4 ] Bug #492155 - octave's function glpk broken due to "undefined symbol: _glp_lib_fault_hook"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492155
  [ 5 ] Bug #524136 - saving graphs in octave
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524136
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pipestat-0.3.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10787)
 Watches data flowing over an anonymous pipe
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner  - 0.3.0-2
- Added setuptools as a requirement.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530075 - pipestat depends on python-setuptools but it is not an RPM dependency
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530075
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 plplot-5.9.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10548)
 Library of functions for making scientific plots
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream Octave (3.2.3).  This is a major upgrade, so please
save your output data before running any new octave scripts.  Other packages
have been rebuilt to match new API (v37).    This may also fix some other
outstanding bugs in the old 3.0.x Octave release, so please upgrade and provide
feedback here, or on the attached bugs if it fixes problems you had with the
3.0.x release.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 28 2009 - Orion Poplawski  - 5.9.5-1
- Update to 5.9.5
- Disable qt tests for now until Xvfb bug is fixed.
- Remove ocaml dep code for now - breaks other dep generation
* Wed Aug 26 2009 - Orion Poplawski  - 5.9.4-8
- Update octave patch to hopefully fix remaining issue.
- Re-enable tests
* Wed Aug 26 2009 - Orion Poplawski  - 5.9.4-7
- Add patch from svn to support pdl 2.4.4_05
- Force using gfortran
* Wed Aug 26 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 5.9.4-6
- Build with perl package re-enabled
* Wed Aug 26 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 5.9.4-5
- Temporarily disable check to fix broken deps in rawhide
- Attempt bootstrap build without pdl
* Thu Aug 13 2009 - Orion Poplawski  - 5.9.4-4
- Add patch to support octave 3.2
* Sat Aug  1 2009 Jussi Lehtola  - 5.9.4-3
- Rebuilt against updated Octave.
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 5.9.4-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529522 - Fails to build against octave-3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529522
  [ 2 ] Bug #525423 - RFE: Octave 3.2.x
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525423
  [ 3 ] Bug #513381 - octave uses reference blas instead of ATLAS
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513381
  [ 4 ] Bug #492155 - octave's function glpk broken due to "undefined symbol: _glp_lib_fault_hook"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492155
  [ 5 ] Bug #524136 - saving graphs in octave
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524136
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 postgresql-8.3.8-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10731)
 PostgreSQL client programs and libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

ensure log file has correct selinux marking during initdb
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 21 2009 Tom Lane  8.3.8-2
- Ensure pgstartup.log gets the right ownership/permissions during initdb
Resolves: #498959
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498959 - SELinux prevents postgresql initdb on a clean install
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498959
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 py-radix-0.5-6.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10732)
 Radix tree data structure for Python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Add patch by Alexander Sabourenkov to fix memory leak (Debian #512830)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530572 - py-radix memory leak
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530572
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-cheetah-2.2.2-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10765)
 Template engine and code generator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updated the utf-8/unicode handling to maintain backward-compatibility with
existing templates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Mike Bonnet  - 2.2.2-2
- backport significant improvements to utf-8/unicode handling from upstream
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529332 - The EncodeUnicode filter no longer works.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529332
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-fedora-0.3.16-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10824)
 Python modules for talking to Fedora Infrastructure Services
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Fixes a problem with _csrf_token with TG1's paginator.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Toshio Kuratomi  - 0.3.16-1
- New release 0.3.16.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-mpmath-0.13-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10750)
 A pure Python library for multiprecision floating-point arithmetic
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release in Fedora.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #525192 - Review Request: python-mpmath - A pure Python library for multiprecision floating-point arithmetic
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525192
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-tg-devtools-2.0.2-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10781)
 Development tools and templates for TurboGears2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial release of python-tg-devtools for F-11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #468804 - Review Request: python-tg-devtools - Development tools and templates for TurboGears2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468804
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-virtinst-0.400.3-12.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10715)
 Python modules and utilities for installing virtual machines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ensure unknown OS detection doesn't break the install
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Cole Robinson  - 0.400.3-12.fc11
- Ensure unknown OS detection doesn't break the install
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529351 - OS variant 'rhel6; does not exist in our dictionary for OS type 'linux'
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529351
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-zope-sqlalchemy-0.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10777)
 Minimal Zope/SQLAlchemy transaction integration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Jun  1 2009 Luke Macken  - 0.4-1
- Update to 0.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qemu-0.10.6-9.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10754)
 QEMU is a FAST! processor emulator
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update disables the VNC CopyRect encoding because several users have
reported serious screen corruption issues as a result of an unknown bug with
qemu's implementation of the encoding.    The update also fixes a potential
stack corruption issue with qemu-kvm.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 2:0.10.6-9
- Disable the vnc CopyRect encoding since it's still broken (#503156)
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 2:0.10.6-8
- Fix potential segfault from too small MSR_COUNT (#528901)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #503156 - qemu VNC :: xterm inside VM shows garbled text
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503156
  [ 2 ] Bug #528901 - qemu-kvm : msrs[] array in kvm_arch_save_regs() too small / may cause stack corruption
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528901
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qgis-1.0.2-1.fc11.1 (FEDORA-2009-10744)
 A user friendly Open Source Geographic Information System
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Rebuild to fix segfault on startup with qgis-python plugin loaded
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 1.0.2-1.1
- Rebuilt to fix python problem (#518121)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #518121 - Segmentation Fault with QGIS 1.0.2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518121
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qjackctl-0.3.5-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10752)
 Qt based JACK control application
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

    * Late support for UTF-8 encoded client/port names.      * Allow only one
single patchbay connection to or from an exclusive socket (mitigating bug
#2859119).      * Automatic crash-dump reports, debugger stack-traces (gdb),
back- traces, whatever, are being introduced as a brand new configure option
(--enable-stacktrace) and default enabled on debug build targets (--enable-
debug).      * Probable fix on the audio connections with regard to client/port
(re)name changes (an ancient bug reported by Fons Adriaensen).      * Portaudio
device selector is now available (after a patch handed by Torben Hohn and
Stephane Letz).      * A couple of primitive D-Bus interface slots have been
introduced, giving the option to start/stop the jackd server from the system bus
eg. via dbus-send --system / org.rncbc.qjackctl.start (.stop), (a nice addition
supplied by Robin Gareus, thanks).      * New command line option (-a, --active-
patchbay=path) to specify and activate a given patchbay definition file (a
simple patch sent by John Schneiderman, thanks).      * Added one significant
digit to DSP Load percentage status display.      * Tentative support for
netjack (slave) by adding the "net" driver to the existing backend driver
options on the Setup/Settings section.      * Converted obsolete QMessageBox
forms to standard buttons.      * New patchbay snapshot now raises the dirty
flag and allows for the immediate salvage of patchbay definition profile.      *
Conditional build for JACK port aliases support (JACK >= 0.109.2).      *
Alternate icon sizes other than default 16x16, are now effective to the
Connections widget (Setup/Dislay/Connections Window/Icon size).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Orcan Ogetbil  0.3.5-1
- Update to 0.3.5
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.3.4-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-actionpack-2.3.2-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10763)
 Web-flow and rendering framework putting the VC in MVC
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes sessions (see https://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8994/tickets/2200
-session-support-broken)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Jeroen van Meeuwen  - 1:2.3.2-3
- Fix activerecord test for reset_session (#2200 upstream)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 rubygem-activerecord-2.3.2-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10763)
 Implements the ActiveRecord pattern for ORM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes sessions (see https://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8994/tickets/2200
-session-support-broken)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Jeroen van Meeuwen  - 1:2.3.2-4
- Apply cherry-picked fix for reset_session from 2-3-stable (#2200 upstream)
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Jeroen van Meeuwen  - 1:2.3.2-3
- Backport fix for default values on MySQL Binary and VarBinary columns
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 smb4k-0.10.4-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10770)
 The SMB/CIFS Share Browser for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to 0.10.4  - Proper update of sudoers (#527401)  - Add kdesu to
Requires (#499720)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Marcin Garski  0.10.4-1
- Update to 0.10.4
- Proper update of sudoers (#527401)
- Add kdesu to Requires (#499720)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499720 - Smb4k is installed, but not its dependencies (KDE)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499720
  [ 2 ] Bug #527401 - smb4k's update of sudoers is not working
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527401
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 snort-2.8.5.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10783)
 Intrusion detection system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 2.8.5.1 which includes a fix for CVE-2009-3641 DoS (crash) while
printing specially-crafted IPv6 packet using the -v option
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 25 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.8.5.1-1
- update for CVE-2009-3641
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.8.3.2-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Robert Scheck  - 2.8.3.2-3
- Build require package libnet10-devel rather libnet10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530863 - CVE-2009-3641 Snort: DoS (crash) while printing specially-crafted IPv6 packet using the -v option
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530863
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 squidGuard-1.4-8.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10780)
 Filter, redirector and access controller plugin for squid
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes language file issue, but more importantly. . .    ---------------
squidGuard upstream has released patches fixing (quoting  from upstream
advisories):    a, This patch fixes one buffer overflow problem in sgLog.c when
overlong URLs  are requested. SquidGuard will then go into emergency mode were
no blocking  occurs. This is not required in this situation.    URL:
http://www.squidguard.org/Downloads/Patches/1.4/Readme.Patch-20091015  ----
b, This patch fixes two bypass problems with URLs which length is close to the
limit defined by MAX_BUF (default: 4096) in squidGuard and MAX_URL (default:
4096 in squid 2.x and 8192 in squid 3.x) in squid. For this kind of URLs the
proxy request exceeds MAX_BUF causing squidGuard to complain about not being
able to parse the squid request.    URL:
http://www.squidguard.org/Downloads/Patches/1.4/Readme.Patch-20091019  ----
References:  -----------  http://secunia.com/advisories/37107/
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/36800/info
http://www.nntpnews.net/f3468/ports-139844-maintainer-update-www-squidguard-fix-
security-vulnerabilities-11997445/    Upstream patches - squidGuard 1.4:
----------------------------------
http://www.squidguard.org/Downloads/P.../squidGuard-1.4-patch-20091015.tar.gz
http://www.squidguard.org/Downloads/P.../squidGuard-1.4-patch-20091019.tar.gz
Upstream advisories:  --------------------
http://www.squidguard.org/Downloads/Patches/1.4/Readme.Patch-20091015
http://www.squidguard.org/Downloads/Patches/1.4/Readme.Patch-20091019
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Jon Ciesla  - 1.4-8
- Applying upstream patches for CVE-2009-3700, BZ 530862.
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Jon Ciesla  - 1.4-7
- Make squidGuard.cgi config(noreplace)
- Relocated logs, updated logrotate file.
- Updated blacklist URL.
* Wed Sep  9 2009 Jon Ciesla  - 1.4-6
- Include babel files, BZ 522038.
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.4-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530862 - CVE-2009-3700 squidGuard: buffer overflow in sgLog.c and two URL filter bypass issues
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530862
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sssd-0.7.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10788)
 System Security Services Daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 New upstream release https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/wiki/Releases/Notes-0.7.0
https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/wiki/Releases/Notes-0.6.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.7.0-1
- New upstream release 0.7.0
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.6.1-2
- Fix missing file permissions for sssd-clients
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.6.1-1
- Add SSSDConfig API
- Update polish translation for 0.6.0
- Fix long timeout on ldap operation
- Make dp requests more robust
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.6.0-1
- Ensure that the configuration upgrade script always writes the config
  file with 0600 permissions
- Eliminate an infinite loop in group enumerations
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Sumit Bose  - 0.6.0-0
- New upstream release 0.6.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sssd-0.7.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10726)
 System Security Services Daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix a bug in upgrades from very old (0.4.x and older) versions of SSSD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.7.0-2
- Fix upgrade issues from old (pre-0.5.0) releases of SSSD
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.7.0-1
- New upstream release 0.7.0
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.6.1-2
- Fix missing file permissions for sssd-clients
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.6.1-1
- Add SSSDConfig API
- Update polish translation for 0.6.0
- Fix long timeout on ldap operation
- Make dp requests more robust
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.6.0-1
- Ensure that the configuration upgrade script always writes the config
  file with 0600 permissions
- Eliminate an infinite loop in group enumerations
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Sumit Bose  - 0.6.0-0
- New upstream release 0.6.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 stfl-0.21-7.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10794)
 The Structured Terminal Forms Language/Library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

STFL is a library which implements a curses-based widget set for text terminals.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 strace-4.5.19-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10843)
 Tracks and displays system calls associated with a running process
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes numerous bugs, adds support for some newer system calls, and
improves the data display for others.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Roland McGrath  - 4.5.19-1
- New upstream release, work mostly by Dmitry V. Levin 
  + exit/kill strace with traced process exitcode/signal (#105371);
  + fixed build on ARM EABI (#507576);
  + fixed display of 32-bit argv array on 64-bit architectures (#519480);
  + fixed display of 32-bit fcntl(F_SETLK) on 64-bit architectures (#471169);
  + fixed several bugs in strings decoder, including potential heap
    memory corruption (#470529, #478324, #511035).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #105371 - RFE: exit/kill strace with traced child's exitcode/signal
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=105371
  [ 2 ] Bug #507576 - strace fails to build on ARM
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507576
  [ 3 ] Bug #519480 - 64-bit strace is lazy on execve of 32-bit process
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519480
  [ 4 ] Bug #471169 - [ biarch ] format fcntl64() system calls for 32 bit application incorrect.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471169
  [ 5 ] Bug #470529 - F10 strace glibc memory corruption backtrace
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470529
  [ 6 ] Bug #478324 - [patch] strace: buffer overflow in function printstr
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478324
  [ 7 ] Bug #511035 - strace internal memory corruption
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511035
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tellico-2.0-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10829)
 A collection manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to latest upstream (2.0).  This re-enables Amazon access (you need to
create your own key, however because of the changes to Amazon Web Services), is
updated to KDE4, and fixes a number of other issues such as CueCat parsing Also
note that this update creates files that are not backwards-compatible with the
tellico 1.3.x series, so please backup your old files before testing, if you
wish to drop back to the older version.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 21 2009 Jos? Matos  - 2.0-1
- stable release
* Sat Sep 19 2009 Rex Dieter  - 2.0-0.2.pre2
- use %_kde4_* macros
- optimize scriptlets
- update URL, Source0
* Fri Sep 11 2009 Alex Lancaster  - 2.0-0.1.pre2
- Update to upstream version 2.0 pre-release 2
- Drop gcc4 patch, now upstream
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.5-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 tesseract-2.04-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10838)
 Raw OCR Engine
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to v2.04 Add static libraries.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Karol Trzcionka  - 2.04-1
- Update to v2.04
- Add static libraries to -devel subpackage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #486175 - tesseract rpms don't contain library files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=486175
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 texlive-2007-46.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10857)
 Binaries for the TeX formatting system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Jindrich Novy  2007-46
- add missing dependency on kpathsea
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Jindrich Novy  2007-45
- make kpathsea not dependent on texlive
- fix lacheck again (#451513)
- fix dvips configuration (#467542)
- update kpathsea description and summary (#519257)
- use upstream patch to fix pool overflow CVE-2009-1284 (#492136)
- don't complain if the pdvipsk hunks touching config.ps don't apply
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492136 - CVE-2009-1284 tetex, texlive: bibtex's invalid reads/writes when parsing big *.bib file
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492136
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 texlive-texmf-2007-31.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10778)
 Architecture independent parts of the TeX formatting system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Jindrich Novy  2007-31
- do not conflict with dvipdfm
- update perl requires filter
- update latin.ldf (#469948)
- do not provide any perl dependencies (#516350)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #469948 - Error in babel file for Latin language
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469948
  [ 2 ] Bug #516350 - texlive-texmf : Conflicting Provides with perl-PDF-Reuse
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516350
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 thunar-vcs-plugin-0.1.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10695)
 Version Contol System plugin for the Thunar filemanager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The Thunar VCS Plugin adds Subversion and GIT actions to the context menu of
Thunar. This gives a VCD integration to Thunar.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529465 - Review Request: thunar-vcs-plugin - SVN integration for the Thunar filemanager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529465
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 totem-2.26.4-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10747)
 Movie player for GNOME
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix lowering volume when switching tracks in Totem or Rhythmbox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.26.4-2
- Update pulsesink patch to use cubic volumes (#512090)
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.26.4-1
- Update to 2.26.4
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.26.3-7
- Update pulsesink patch to use bicubic volumes (#512090)
* Sat Oct  3 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.26.3-6
- Fix YouTube plugin URLs (#521725)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #488532 - each time totem advances to next track volume goes down a bit
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488532
  [ 2 ] Bug #512090 - Totem volume slider weird behaviour - exponential effect in PulseAudio
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512090
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wxGTK-2.8.10-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10720)
 GTK2 port of the wxWidgets GUI library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 25 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 2.8.10-4
- add fix for wrong menubar height when using larger system font (#528376)
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 2.8.10-3
- add fix for excessive CPU usage (#494425)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528376 - he menu bar height of wxGTK applications does not change according the global application font setting
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528376
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wxMaxima-0.8.3a-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10837)
 Graphical user interface for Maxima
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 25 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.8.3a-1
- wxMaxima-0.8.3a (#530915)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #455863 - output window of wxMaxima is not visible in RtL locales
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455863
  [ 2 ] Bug #530915 - Please update wxMaxima to 0.8.3a
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530915
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 x11vnc-0.9.8-14.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10826)
 VNC server for the current X11 session
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Initial import x11vnc into Fedora
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #510734 - Review Request: x11vnc - VNC server for the current X11 session
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510734
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 xastir-1.9.6-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10831)
 Amateur Station Tracking and Reporting system for amateur radio
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

new upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Lucian Langa  - 1:1.9.6-1
- drop patch1 fixed upstream
- new upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528700 - New Version available
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528700
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 zyx-liveinstaller-0.1.14-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10769)
 Install a running LiveOS rebootlessly
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- bugfix: handle nondefault kernel cmdline args  - debug: backend failure
exception propogation tested and working  - bugfix: catch exception for
situation with no /dev/disk/by-id  - bugfix: yes, there seems to have indeed
been a bug with no-swap installs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 18 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 0.1.14-1
- update to new upstream release
- adjust source url
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 0.1.13-1
- update to new upstream release
* Sat Sep 26 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 0.1.12-1
- update to new upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 27 07:26:32 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:26:32 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091027072632.B602910F87F@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    Django-1.1.1-2.fc10
    audacious-plugins-1.5.1-14.fc10
    bauble-0.9.5-2.fc10
    blazeblogger-1.0.0-1.fc10
    childsplay-1.4-2.fc10
    eric-4.3.8-1.fc10
    f-spot-0.6.1.3-1.fc10
    foomatic-4.0.3-1.fc10
    gcompris-8.4.13-1.fc10
    gnome-chemistry-utils-0.10.8-1.fc10.1
    gnomecatalog-0.3.4.2-3.fc10
    gnumeric-1.8.4-5.fc10
    goffice-0.6.6-4.fc10
    libotf-0.9.9-3.fc10
    mcabber-0.9.10-1.fc10
    mod_security-2.5.10-1.fc10
    mono-2.2-3.fc10
    moreutils-0.37-1.fc10
    netpbm-10.47.04-1.fc10
    nrpe-2.12-12.fc10
    openscada-0.6.4-4.fc10
    postgresql-8.3.8-2.fc10
    preupgrade-1.1.2-1.fc10
    py-radix-0.5-6.fc10
    python-fedora-0.3.16-1.fc10
    python-tgext-crud-0.2.4-1.fc10
    python-virtinst-0.400.3-5.fc10
    qjackctl-0.3.5-1.fc10
    selinux-policy-3.5.13-74.fc10
    smb4k-0.10.4-1.fc10
    snort-2.8.5.1-1.fc10
    squidGuard-1.4-8.fc10
    stfl-0.21-7.fc10
    strace-4.5.19-1.fc10
    texlive-2007-46.fc10
    texlive-texmf-2007-31.fc10
    thunar-vcs-plugin-0.1.1-1.fc10.1
    wxGTK-2.8.10-4.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 Django-1.1.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10799)
 A high-level Python Web framework
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

No more "*.po" files.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner  - 1.1.1-2
- Removed po files per BZ#529188.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529188 - Django RPM includes "*.po" files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529188
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 audacious-plugins-1.5.1-14.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10574)
 Plugins for the Audacious media player
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Patch "pulse_audio" output plugin to not get confused by volume level changes
passed in via callback. Volume level now doesn't change when starting the next
track.  * Patch "pulse_audio" output plugin to not suffer from precision-loss
when saving the volume level in Audacious config file.  * Patch alsa-ng plugin
with some buffer prefilling to fight underruns.  * Merge minor changes from 2.2
alpha1 alsa-ng plugin.    [Please note that if you use external mixers / volume
controls  to alter the volume level, Audacious older than 2.2 (which is still
being developed) does not reflect that with its own volume slider. So, if you
switch between multiple volume controls often, you can experience big jumps in
volume level going up/down.]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-14
- Set buffer_time_min in underruns patch. Depend on default buffer size.
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-13
- Patch pulseaudio plugin to not suffer from precision loss when
  calculating the volume level to save.
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-12
- Patch pulseaudio plugin to not get confused by volume values passed
  in via callback.
* Sat Sep 19 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-11
- Patch alsa-ng plugin with some buffer prefilling to fight underruns.
- Merge minor changes from 2.2 alpha1 alsa-ng plugin.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 bauble-0.9.5-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10758)
 Biodiversity collection manager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

newpackage.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #491980 - Review Request: bauble -  Biodiversity collection manager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491980
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 blazeblogger-1.0.0-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10846)
 A simple to use but capable CMS for the command line
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Features    * Added core.processor configuration option, making it possible to
specify an external application or applications to be used to process the
entries. Thanks to this feature, the usage of whatever markup language suites
people the best is now simply matter of a single configuration option.  * Added
%tag[name]% placeholder, making it always return valid relative path to the tag
with given name.  * Distinguished repository creation from its recovery.  *
Avoided rewriting existing stylesheet when it is exactly the same as the
original; patch by Matthew Woehlke.    Bug Fixes    * blaze-config now displays
proper default value even though the requested option is not actually found in
the configuration file.  * Temporary files are now removed once they are not
needed any more.  * Added version information to manual pages.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  1.0.0-1
- update to new upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 childsplay-1.4-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10740)
 Suite of educational games for young children
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Johan Cwiklinski  1.4-2
- fix get_locale issue (bug #530599)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530599 - Coding error in:  /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/childsplay_sp/utils.py
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530599
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 eric-4.3.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10755)
 Python IDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Johan Cwiklinski  4.3.8-1
- 4.3.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 f-spot-0.6.1.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10792)
 Photo management application
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to new upstream version 0.6.1.3 with lots of bug fixes.    The detailed
changelog can be found here:
http://f-spot.org/News#f-spot_0.6.1.3_-_Sep_28_2009_-_Bare_Feet_In_The_Grass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 13 2009 Christian Krause  - 0.6.1.3-1
- Update to 0.6.1.3 (BZ 526217)
- Remove two upstreamed patches
- Use a slightly different fix for the cairo-devel dependency
  (suggested by upstream)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 foomatic-4.0.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10741)
 Database of printers and printer drivers
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This updates the printers and drivers database to a newer snapshot.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Sep  1 2009 Tim Waugh  4.0.3-1
- 4.0.3.
* Mon Aug 24 2009 Tim Waugh  4.0.2-7
- Restored db-hpijs.
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Tim Waugh  4.0.2-6
- Updated to foomatic-db-4.0-20090819.  Removed db-hpijs.
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Tim Waugh  4.0.2-5
- Removed references to foo2slx and foo2hiperc (bug #518267).
- Use stcolor driver for Epson Stylus Color 200 (bug #513676).
- Don't ship 3-distribution symlink as CUPS already searches
  /usr/share/ppd (bug #514244).
- Remove non-PPD files from PPD directory (bug #514242).
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 4.0.2-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Jul  2 2009 Tim Waugh  4.0.2-3
- Removed '-O0' compiler option for foomatic-filters, which had been
  used for debugging purposes.
* Thu Jul  2 2009 Tim Waugh  4.0.2-1
- Updated db-engine to 4.0.2 (bug #503188).
- Updated foomatic-filters to 4.0.2 (bug #496521).
- Updated db-hpijs to 20090701.
- Updated db to 4.0-20090702.
- This package obsoletes oki4linux (bug #491489).
- Don't ship ChangeLog/README/USAGE for each of the 4 packages as it
  comes to more than 1MB (bug #492449).
- Don't use mktemp in foomatic-rip.
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 4.0.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Jan 15 2009 Tim Waugh  4.0.0-1
- 4.0.0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #467597 - Brother HL-2140 printer does not print
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467597
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gcompris-8.4.13-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10796)
 Educational suite for kids 2-10 years old
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Johan Cwiklinski  8.4.13-1
- New upstream bugfix release 8.4.13
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnome-chemistry-utils-0.10.8-1.fc10.1 (FEDORA-2009-10816)
 A set of chemical utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Applied 3 patches from the 0.6 branch (#503068, #505001)    2009-02-19: Fixed
crash when adding series to bar chart. [Upstream #572354]  2009-03-06: don't
show a marker in the legend. [Upstream #574340] skip points when the datum is
2009-05-01: Patch foocanvas to work around behaviour change in gtk 2.14.
[Upstream #566652]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Julian Sikorski  - 0.10.8-1.fc10.1
- Updated for new goffice
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #503068 - Graph fails to release upon drag-move in v. 1.8.2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503068
  [ 2 ] Bug #505001 - Gnumeric build badly needs upstream fix for GTK behavior change
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505001
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnomecatalog-0.3.4.2-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10839)
 Catalog Software for Gnome Desktop
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Test the permissions of catalog files especially in /tmp
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Marc Wiriadisastra  - 0.3.4.2-3
- Patch for permissions added thanks to Alexander Ovcharenko
- Closes bug bz 509237
- Clean up the spec file removing the F9 python-setuptools buildrequires
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.3.4.2-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #509237 - gnomecatalog doesn't show catalog
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509237
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gnumeric-1.8.4-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10791)
 Spreadsheet program for GNOME
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Applied 4 patches from the 1.8 stable branch (#500890, #505001)  - Resolved
rhbz #500890 and #495314  - Upgrade to 1.8.4 (#491769)  - Disable gdaif and
gnome-db plugins  - Resolves CVE-2009-5983
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Robert Scheck  1:1.8.4-5
- Applied 4 patches from the 1.8 stable branch (#500890, #505001)
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Huzaifa Sidhpurwala  1:1.8.4-4
- Resolve rhbz #500890
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1:1.8.4-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Apr 13 2009 Huzaifa Sidhpurwala  1:1.8.4-2
- Resolved rhbz #495314
* Tue Apr  7 2009 Robert Scheck  1:1.8.4-1
- Upgrade to 1.8.4 (#491769)
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1:1.8.2-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Feb 16 2009 Huzaifa Sidhpurwala  1:1.8.2-6
- Disable gdaif and gnome-db plugins
- Resolves CVE-2009-5983
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #500890 - [patch] can't edit sheet after reopening from "recent"
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500890
  [ 2 ] Bug #505001 - Gnumeric build badly needs upstream fix for GTK behavior change
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505001
  [ 3 ] Bug #495314 - gnumeric update to 1.8.4 breaks icon
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495314
  [ 4 ] Bug #491769 - Update Request: New version available
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491769
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 goffice-0.6.6-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10816)
 Goffice support libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Applied 3 patches from the 0.6 branch (#503068, #505001)    2009-02-19: Fixed
crash when adding series to bar chart. [Upstream #572354]  2009-03-06: don't
show a marker in the legend. [Upstream #574340] skip points when the datum is
2009-05-01: Patch foocanvas to work around behaviour change in gtk 2.14.
[Upstream #566652]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Robert Scheck  - 0.6.6-4
- Applied 3 patches from the 0.6 branch (#503068, #505001)
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.6.6-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.6.6-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Jan 31 2009 Julian Sikorski  - 0.6.6-1
- Updated to 0.6.6
* Mon Jan 12 2009 Caol?n McNamara  - 0.6.5-2
- rebuild to get provides pkgconfig(libgoffice-0.4) >= 0:0.4.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #503068 - Graph fails to release upon drag-move in v. 1.8.2
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503068
  [ 2 ] Bug #505001 - Gnumeric build badly needs upstream fix for GTK behavior change
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505001
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 libotf-0.9.9-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10847)
 A Library for handling OpenType Font
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Neal Becker  - 0.9.9-3
- Add BR libXaw-devel (BR 530586)
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Neal Becker  - 0.9.9-2
- Remove libotf-config (just just pkg-config instead)
- Remove example/Makefile to fix multilib conflict
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530586 - libotf build requires libXaw-devel
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530586
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mcabber-0.9.10-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10745)
 Console Jabber instant messaging client
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release  Uses enchant in place of aspell
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Michael Fleming  - 0.9.10-1
- Update to 0.9.10 (bz# 527738)
- Switch to enchant for spellchecking (bz# 523963)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527738 - New release of mcabber available
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527738
  [ 2 ] Bug #523963 - move mcabber to enchant instead of aspell
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523963
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mod_security-2.5.10-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10786)
 Security module for the Apache HTTP Server
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Updates to 2.5.10 and new Core Rules version 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct  8 2009 Michael Fleming  - 2.5.10-1
- Upgrade to 2.5.10 (with Core Rules v2)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 mono-2.2-3.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10749)
 A .NET runtime environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to final upstream release of mono-2.2.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Christian Krause  - 2.2-3
- Update to official upstream tarball mono-2.2.tar.bz2
- Add patch to fix install problem (include file was mentioned twice
  in Makefile)
- Remove vbnc manual from file list (will be in mono-basic package)
- Add web-devel subpackage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530170 - mono 2.2 tarball inconsistent with upstream
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530170
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 moreutils-0.37-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10736)
 Additional unix utilities
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Marc Bradshaw  0.37-1.fc10
- new upstream version 0.36 released with these changes
- * parallel: Clarify man page regarding CPUs. Closes: #536597
- * parallel: Add -n option. Thanks, Pierre Habouzit. Closes: #537992 (As a side effect, fixes a segfault if -- was omitted.)
- * parallel.1: Typo fixes. Closes: #538147
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.36-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 netpbm-10.47.04-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10811)
 A library for handling different graphics file formats
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Jindrich Novy  10.47.04-1
- update to 10.47.04 (it is now stable) (#529525)
- fixes #502917, #482850, #482847
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529525 - Documentation in RPM is for version 10.44, binaries are for 10.35
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529525
  [ 2 ] Bug #502917 - The man page for pbmtext needs to display a backslash
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502917
  [ 3 ] Bug #482850 - man page for pammixinterlace talks about unsupported options
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=482850
  [ 4 ] Bug #482847 - man page for pamfunc talks about unsupported options
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=482847
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 nrpe-2.12-12.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10832)
 Host/service/network monitoring agent for Nagios
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

%changelog  * Mon Oct 26 2009 Peter Lemenkov  - 2.12-12  -
Do not own %%{_libdir}/nagios/plugins ( bz# 528974 )  - Fixed building against
tcp_wrappers in Fedora ( bz# 528974 )
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Peter Lemenkov  - 2.12-12
- Do not own %{_libdir}/nagios/plugins ( bz# 528974 )
- Fixed building against tcp_wrappers in Fedora ( bz# 528974 )
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528974 - nrpe: ownership problems, build requirements problems, ...
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528974
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 openscada-0.6.4-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10771)
 Open SCADA system project
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed all broken deps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Peter Lemenkov  - 0.6.4-4
- Fixed the last broken dep
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Peter Lemenkov  - 0.6.4-3
- Fixed the rest of broken deps introduced with new sub-packages.
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.4-2
- Added of Obsoletes directive by Peter Lemenkov .
* Sun Oct 11 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.4-1
- The change version for release 0.6.4
- Moved Ui-VCAEngine module to the self package
- Removed QTStarter module from the main package
- Added the virtual plc, server, visStation packages
- Some cosmetics
- Fixed somes bugs Peter Lemenkov .
* Sun Oct  4 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.4-1
- Adding self module ICP_DAS
- Fixed Germany Language translations by Popkova Irina
- Delete openscada-0.6.3.3-openssl.patch from previouns version
- Adding the next version of the package.
* Tue Sep  1 2009 Aleksey Popkov  - 0.6.3.3-13
- Adding Requires for webcfg, webcfgd, webvision, http and snmp
- Some cosmetics.
* Tue Aug 25 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 0.6.3.3-12
- rebuilt with new openssl
* Mon Jul 27 2009 Popkov Aleksey  - 0.6.3.3-11
- Fixed of macros find_lang for epel-5 by Peter Lemenkov .
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.6.3.3-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild.
* Tue Jul 14 2009 Popkov Aleksey  0.6.3.3-9
- Adding find_lang macros by Peter Lemenkov 
- Somes cosmetics.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 postgresql-8.3.8-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10776)
 PostgreSQL client programs and libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

ensure log file has correct selinux marking during initdb
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Tom Lane  8.3.8-2
- Ensure pgstartup.log gets the right ownership/permissions during initdb
Related: #498959
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #498959 - SELinux prevents postgresql initdb on a clean install
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498959
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 preupgrade-1.1.2-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10803)
 Prepares a system for an upgrade
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes a crash when upgrading from F10 to F12/Rawhide.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 12 2009 Will Woods  - 1.1.2-1.fc10
- Proper fix for bug 526208
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Seth Vidal  - 1.1.1-2
- require yum 3.2.24
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Will Woods  - 1.1.1-1
- Fix UI hang on upgrades from F11 (bug 526208)
- Fix unhandled traceback in preupgrade.dev (bug 504826)
- Give preupgrade its own User-Agent string
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.1.0-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #527552 - GError and TypeError: Parsing primary.xml error: attributes construct error
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527552
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 py-radix-0.5-6.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10746)
 Radix tree data structure for Python
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Add patch by Alexander Sabourenkov to fix memory leak (Debian #512830)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530572 - py-radix memory leak
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530572
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-fedora-0.3.16-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10785)
 Python modules for talking to Fedora Infrastructure Services
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Fixes a problem with _csrf_token with TG1's paginator.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Toshio Kuratomi  - 0.3.16-1
- New release 0.3.16.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-tgext-crud-0.2.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10774)
 Crud Controller Extension for TG2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-virtinst-0.400.3-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10813)
 Python modules and utilities for installing virtual machines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ensure unknown OS detection doesn't break the install
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Cole Robinson  - 0.400.3-5.fc10
- Ensure unknown OS detection doesn't break the install
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 qjackctl-0.3.5-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10858)
 Qt based JACK control application
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

    * Late support for UTF-8 encoded client/port names.      * Allow only one
single patchbay connection to or from an exclusive socket (mitigating bug
#2859119).      * Automatic crash-dump reports, debugger stack-traces (gdb),
back- traces, whatever, are being introduced as a brand new configure option
(--enable-stacktrace) and default enabled on debug build targets (--enable-
debug).      * Probable fix on the audio connections with regard to client/port
(re)name changes (an ancient bug reported by Fons Adriaensen).      * Portaudio
device selector is now available (after a patch handed by Torben Hohn and
Stephane Letz).      * A couple of primitive D-Bus interface slots have been
introduced, giving the option to start/stop the jackd server from the system bus
eg. via dbus-send --system / org.rncbc.qjackctl.start (.stop), (a nice addition
supplied by Robin Gareus, thanks).      * New command line option (-a, --active-
patchbay=path) to specify and activate a given patchbay definition file (a
simple patch sent by John Schneiderman, thanks).      * Added one significant
digit to DSP Load percentage status display.      * Tentative support for
netjack (slave) by adding the "net" driver to the existing backend driver
options on the Setup/Settings section.      * Converted obsolete QMessageBox
forms to standard buttons.      * New patchbay snapshot now raises the dirty
flag and allows for the immediate salvage of patchbay definition profile.      *
Conditional build for JACK port aliases support (JACK >= 0.109.2).      *
Alternate icon sizes other than default 16x16, are now effective to the
Connections widget (Setup/Dislay/Connections Window/Icon size).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Orcan Ogetbil  0.3.5-1
- Update to 0.3.5
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.3.4-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 selinux-policy-3.5.13-74.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10735)
 SELinux policy configuration
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Allow spamass-milter to read etc files  - Allow unconfined_mount_t to execute
in rpcd domain
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Miroslav Grepl  3.5.13-74
- Allow spamass-milter to read etc files
* Thu Oct  1 2009 Miroslav Grepl  3.5.13-73
- Allow unconfined_mount_t to execute in rpcd domain
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 smb4k-0.10.4-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10739)
 The SMB/CIFS Share Browser for KDE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Update to 0.10.4  - Proper update of sudoers (#527401)  - Add kdesu to
Requires (#499720)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Marcin Garski  0.10.4-1
- Update to 0.10.4
- Proper update of sudoers (#527401)
- Add kdesu to Requires (#499720)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #499720 - Smb4k is installed, but not its dependencies (KDE)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499720
  [ 2 ] Bug #527401 - smb4k's update of sudoers is not working
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527401
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 snort-2.8.5.1-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10751)
 Intrusion detection system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to 2.8.5.1 which includes a fix for CVE-2009-3641 DoS (crash) while
printing specially-crafted IPv6 packet using the -v option
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 25 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.8.5.1-1
- update for CVE-2009-3641
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.8.3.2-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Robert Scheck  - 2.8.3.2-3
- Build require package libnet10-devel rather libnet10
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.8.3.2-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Feb 16 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.8.3.2-1
- update to 2.8.3.2
* Fri Jan 23 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.8.1-6
- rebuild for new mysql
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530863 - CVE-2009-3641 Snort: DoS (crash) while printing specially-crafted IPv6 packet using the -v option
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530863
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 squidGuard-1.4-8.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10743)
 Filter, redirector and access controller plugin for squid
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixes language file issue, but more importantly. . .    ---------------
squidGuard upstream has released patches fixing (quoting  from upstream
advisories):    a, This patch fixes one buffer overflow problem in sgLog.c when
overlong URLs  are requested. SquidGuard will then go into emergency mode were
no blocking  occurs. This is not required in this situation.    URL:
http://www.squidguard.org/Downloads/Patches/1.4/Readme.Patch-20091015  ----
b, This patch fixes two bypass problems with URLs which length is close to the
limit defined by MAX_BUF (default: 4096) in squidGuard and MAX_URL (default:
4096 in squid 2.x and 8192 in squid 3.x) in squid. For this kind of URLs the
proxy request exceeds MAX_BUF causing squidGuard to complain about not being
able to parse the squid request.    URL:
http://www.squidguard.org/Downloads/Patches/1.4/Readme.Patch-20091019  ----
References:  -----------  http://secunia.com/advisories/37107/
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/36800/info
http://www.nntpnews.net/f3468/ports-139844-maintainer-update-www-squidguard-fix-
security-vulnerabilities-11997445/    Upstream patches - squidGuard 1.4:
----------------------------------
http://www.squidguard.org/Downloads/P.../squidGuard-1.4-patch-20091015.tar.gz
http://www.squidguard.org/Downloads/P.../squidGuard-1.4-patch-20091019.tar.gz
Upstream advisories:  --------------------
http://www.squidguard.org/Downloads/Patches/1.4/Readme.Patch-20091015
http://www.squidguard.org/Downloads/Patches/1.4/Readme.Patch-20091019
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Jon Ciesla  - 1.4-8
- Applying upstream patches for CVE-2009-3700, BZ 530862.
* Thu Sep 24 2009 Jon Ciesla  - 1.4-7
- Make squidGuard.cgi config(noreplace)
- Relocated logs, updated logrotate file.
- Updated blacklist URL.
* Wed Sep  9 2009 Jon Ciesla  - 1.4-6
- Include babel files, BZ 522038.
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.4-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Mar  5 2009 Jon Ciesla  - 1.4-4
- Initscript cleanup, BZ 247065.
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Jon Ciesla  - 1.4-3
- Drop chcon Req.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530862 - CVE-2009-3700 squidGuard: buffer overflow in sgLog.c and two URL filter bypass issues
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530862
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 stfl-0.21-7.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10748)
 The Structured Terminal Forms Language/Library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

STFL is a library which implements a curses-based widget set for text terminals.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 strace-4.5.19-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10733)
 Tracks and displays system calls associated with a running process
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes numerous bugs, adds support for some newer system calls, and
improves the data display for others.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Roland McGrath  - 4.5.19-1
- New upstream release, work mostly by Dmitry V. Levin 
  + exit/kill strace with traced process exitcode/signal (#105371);
  + fixed build on ARM EABI (#507576);
  + fixed display of 32-bit argv array on 64-bit architectures (#519480);
  + fixed display of 32-bit fcntl(F_SETLK) on 64-bit architectures (#471169);
  + fixed several bugs in strings decoder, including potential heap
    memory corruption (#470529, #478324, #511035).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #105371 - RFE: exit/kill strace with traced child's exitcode/signal
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=105371
  [ 2 ] Bug #507576 - strace fails to build on ARM
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507576
  [ 3 ] Bug #519480 - 64-bit strace is lazy on execve of 32-bit process
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519480
  [ 4 ] Bug #471169 - [ biarch ] format fcntl64() system calls for 32 bit application incorrect.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471169
  [ 5 ] Bug #470529 - F10 strace glibc memory corruption backtrace
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470529
  [ 6 ] Bug #478324 - [patch] strace: buffer overflow in function printstr
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478324
  [ 7 ] Bug #511035 - strace internal memory corruption
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511035
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 texlive-2007-46.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10730)
 Binaries for the TeX formatting system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Jindrich Novy  2007-46
- add missing dependency on kpathsea
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Jindrich Novy  2007-45
- make kpathsea not dependent on texlive
- fix lacheck again (#451513)
- fix dvips configuration (#467542)
- update kpathsea description and summary (#519257)
- use upstream patch to fix pool overflow CVE-2009-1284 (#492136)
- don't complain if the pdvipsk hunks touching config.ps don't apply
- avoid clashes with getline() from glibc
- texlive-east-asian now requires texlive-texmf-east-asian (#487258)
- do not attempt to remove old fonts via cron in /var/lib/texmf,
  fonts are stored in ~/.texlive2007/texmf-var per-user
  (#477833, #463975, #453468)
- use correct paths in brp-* post install scriptlets (#468179)
- fix build with gcc4.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #492136 - CVE-2009-1284 tetex, texlive: bibtex's invalid reads/writes when parsing big *.bib file
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492136
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 texlive-texmf-2007-31.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10790)
 Architecture independent parts of the TeX formatting system
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Jindrich Novy  2007-31
- do not conflict with dvipdfm
- update perl requires filter
- update latin.ldf (#469948)
- do not provide any perl dependencies (#516350)
- remove binaries from splitindex (#476636)
- add unowned dirs into the filelist (#474027)
- fix patch to brp-compress script (#468179)
- remove F8 related chunks from spec
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #469948 - Error in babel file for Latin language
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469948
  [ 2 ] Bug #516350 - texlive-texmf : Conflicting Provides with perl-PDF-Reuse
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516350
  [ 3 ] Bug #476636 - texlive-texmf-doc-2007-26.fc10.noarch contain binaries
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476636
  [ 4 ] Bug #474027 - texlive-texmf : Unowned directories
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474027
  [ 5 ] Bug #468179 - paths for brp-* tools
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468179
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 thunar-vcs-plugin-0.1.1-1.fc10.1 (FEDORA-2009-10632)
 Version Contol System plugin for the Thunar filemanager
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

The Thunar VCS Plugin adds Subversion and GIT actions to the context menu of
Thunar. This gives a VCD integration to Thunar.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529465 - Review Request: thunar-vcs-plugin - SVN integration for the Thunar filemanager
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529465
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 wxGTK-2.8.10-4.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10738)
 GTK2 port of the wxWidgets GUI library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Sun Oct 25 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 2.8.10-4
- add fix for wrong menubar height when using larger system font (#528376)
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 2.8.10-3
- add fix for excessive CPU usage (#494425)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528376 - he menu bar height of wxGTK applications does not change according the global application font setting
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528376
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 07:33:10 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:33:10 -0400
Subject: Bug Zappers Meeting Agenda for 2009-10-27
Message-ID: <20091027073310.GA10016@blackhare>

Bug Triage Meeting
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
Tuesday 27 October 15:00 UTC (11 AM EST)
 

The meeting this week will cover some left overs from previous meetings.

* Semantic change - Do we have a firm date for official implementation?

* Triage Metrics - Any updates or information?

* Bug Lifecycle - This ties in with the semantics change.

* Open Floor - Your topic here.

New members of the bugzappers, this is the time to have your voice heard. If you'd like comment on something, add a topic for discussion, or have any questions please attend the meeting. Everyone is welcome.

See you there
TK009



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Tue Oct 27 10:07:18 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:07:18 +0800
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE6C656.7010609@herakles.homelinux.org>

Fulko Hew wrote:
> Forgive the rant that follows...
> 
> This isn't F12 specific.  As a matter of fact, I was just trying to do some
> 'packaging' development and SELinux on F11 when it bit me.  F12 and
> its apps have the same issues, and its not even Fedora specific.
> Now don't ask why I was doing it, its not relevant, but...
> 
> While doing my work, I'm using a virtual machine, (VirtualBox right now)
> and it presents a nice window for Fedora to present itself into.
> The trouble is that VirtualBox's display is not a very high resolution window.

Have you tried connecting via vnc?

 I suppose while I'm ranting... lets delve into "WHY is everyone defining
> their dialog boxes and other windows as 'modal windows?" Rarely if
> ever, does a window really need to be modal!  I can't tell you how many
> times I've encountered a window where I need to go to another window

It's especially good fun for the user when there are two modal 
dialogues, and the one that's hidden has keyboard focus. It's very hard 
to click its button with the mouse.

> to determine the answer.  But the damn modal window prevents me from
> doing it.  You have to back out of what your doing... find the answer...
> then go forwards again, to get to the point of answering the original question.

I had this problem a few minutes ago, on CentOS 5.3. I was just 
discovering konqueror's website debugging tools.






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From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Tue Oct 27 10:12:00 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:12:00 +0800
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <4AE5BDEB.9040404@gmail.com>
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>	<4AE5B402.8000102@gmail.com>	<8204a4fe0910260749j7a997bcak3696ce1aa0cb7e37@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AE5BDEB.9040404@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE6C770.6090505@herakles.homelinux.org>

David wrote:
> On 10/26/2009 10:49 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:


> But from the way that you wrote this it sounded more like pebcak.  :-)
> 
> Virtualbox, when configured correctly and in fullscreen mode, looks just
> like a 'real' install of the guest OS. The only way there could be
> sliders on the right side or the left side of the application windows
> would be if that was a normal display. An application that was in a
> windowed (not fullscreen) mode. Also note that the Guest OS needs to be
> configured correctly too.

It might, but have you tried running any Linux distro which hasn't 
recognised your graphics and so configured to tis default which, I 
think, is VGA. Something unbelievably small by today's standards. Has 
there been any desktop hardware in the past 15 or so years that couldn't 
do at least 1024x768?


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From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Tue Oct 27 10:15:02 2009
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:15:02 +0800
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <1256579271.27324.58.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>	<4AE5B402.8000102@gmail.com>	<8204a4fe0910260749j7a997bcak3696ce1aa0cb7e37@mail.gmail.com>	<4AE5BDEB.9040404@gmail.com>
	<1256579271.27324.58.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4AE6C826.4000800@herakles.homelinux.org>

Christopher Beland wrote:
>

> If you find it overwhelming to file so many bugs at once, then take it
> one bug at a time - start with the situations you encounter most
> frequently, or a particular frequently used application.
> 
> Perhaps Fedora should have a Small Screen Test Day, to find usability
> problems when everyone dials down their screen resolution.

X can do virtual desktops bigger than the real screen. Where the screen 
size is detected (or assumed) to be small, then it should, by default, 
configure a larger default screen.



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From mschwendt at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 10:29:28 2009
From: mschwendt at gmail.com (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:29:28 -0000
Subject: Broken dependencies with Fedora 11 updates-testing - 2009-10-27
Message-ID: <20091027102928.3575.51542@faldor.intranet>

======================================================================
The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
======================================================================

Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name):

    asterisk
    autotrust
    fence-agents
    libsvm
    oorexx
    openmpi
    R-RScaLAPACK




======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-i386:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.i586  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.i586  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc64:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc64  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-x86_64:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.x86_64  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexx.so.3
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexxapi.so.3
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-i386:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    fence-agents-3.0.4-1.fc11.i586  requires  libvirt-client


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    fence-agents-3.0.4-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libvirt-client


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc64:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    fence-agents-3.0.4-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libvirt-client


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-x86_64:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11
    fence-agents-3.0.4-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  libvirt-client


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-i386:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.i586  requires  libunbound.so.0


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libunbound.so.0


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc64:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-x86_64:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)



From mrmazda at earthlink.net  Tue Oct 27 11:32:36 2009
From: mrmazda at earthlink.net (Felix Miata)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:32:36 -0400
Subject: problems using fixed window sizes
In-Reply-To: <4AE6C770.6090505@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <8204a4fe0910260730m31596e96r31f987b3749c06dc@mail.gmail.com>	<4AE5B402.8000102@gmail.com>	<8204a4fe0910260749j7a997bcak3696ce1aa0cb7e37@mail.gmail.com>	<4AE5BDEB.9040404@gmail.com>
	<4AE6C770.6090505@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <4AE6DA54.9040308@earthlink.net>

On 2009/10/27 18:12 (GMT+0800) John Summerfield composed:

> Has there been any desktop hardware in the past 15 or so years that
> couldn't do at least 1024x768?

Tiny 1024x640 laptops shouldn't be considered supported hardware?
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From kparal at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 11:46:58 2009
From: kparal at redhat.com (Kamil Paral)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:46:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: theora screencasting not working in F12
In-Reply-To: <2068886238.239631256643507351.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

In all the announcements I read boasting how Thusnelda [1] (codename 
for the new version of Theora) is available in F12. It seems to me
a little weird that nobody checked that it really works. From my
experience, all major theora screencasting apps (recordmydesktop and
istanbul) are broken. Recordmydesktop records one frame in several 
seconds, istanbul records in disgusting quality. This is not what I
expect when I read those glorious announcements. I have reported a bug
about it [2]. Problem is nobody notices the bug also :)

So, I'm just curious, do you have some advice how to draw attention
to a particular bug the right people, except from reporting it into
bugzilla and waiting perhaps months or years? I mean it for this issue
but I also mean it generally for other (future) issues. Give me a hint
if you have some. Thanks!

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Thusnelda
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525155



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 27 12:11:10 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:11:10 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091027 changes
Message-ID: <20091027121110.GA20529@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Tue Oct 27 06:15:09 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
	orsa-lam-0.7.0-11.fc12.i686 requires lam
	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
	tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
	tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
	tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
	tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.x86_64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.x86_64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
	orsa-lam-0.7.0-11.fc12.x86_64 requires lam
	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.x86_64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.x86_64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
	tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.x86_64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
	tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.x86_64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
	tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.x86_64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
	tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.x86_64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.ppc requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.ppc requires liblam.so.0
	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.ppc64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.ppc64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
	orsa-lam-0.7.0-11.fc12.ppc requires lam
	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.ppc requires liblam.so.0
	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.ppc requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.ppc64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.ppc64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
	tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.ppc requires liblam.so.0
	tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.ppc requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
	tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.ppc requires liblam.so.0
	tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.ppc requires liblamf77mpi.so.0



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.ppc64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.ppc64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
	orsa-lam-0.7.0-11.fc12.ppc64 requires lam
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot
	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.ppc64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.ppc64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
	tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.ppc64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
	tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.ppc64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
	tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.ppc64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
	tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.ppc64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)



New package kcm-gtk
        Configure the appearance of GTK apps in KDE
New package python-xkit
        A simple, transparent and easy to extend xorg parser
Removed package lam
Updated Packages:

389-dsgw-1.1.4-1.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Aug 12 2009 Rich Megginson  - 1.1.4-1
- bump version to 1.1.4
- fix remaining licensing problems
- fix adminutil.m4

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.1.3-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild

* Tue Jul 21 2009 Rich Megginson  - 1.1.3-2
- use 389-adminutil instead of adminutil


artwiz-aleczapka-fonts-1.3-8.fc12
---------------------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


asterisk-1.6.1.7-0.4.rc2.fc12
-----------------------------
* Sat Oct 24 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.3.rc2
- Compile against gmime 2.2 instead of gmime 2.4 because the patch to convert the API calls from 2.2 to 2.4 caused crashes.

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.4.rc2
- Add an AST_EXTRA_ARGS option to the init script
- have the init script to cd to /var/spool/asterisk to prevent annoying message

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.2.rc2
- Require latex2html used in static-http documents

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.1.rc2
- Update to 1.6.1.7-rc2
- Merge firmware subpackage back into main package
- No longer need to strip tarball since it no longer contains any non-free items
- Tighten up permissions/ownership of config files.
- Fix up some more paths
- Drop unneeded patch


audacious-plugin-fc-0.4-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Sat Oct 24 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 0.4-1
- Patch temporarily to backport to Audacious 2.1 API.

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 0.4-1
- Upgrade to 0.4 for Audacious 2.2 InputPlugin API changes.


baekmuk-bdf-fonts-2.2-8.fc12
----------------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.2-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


brasero-2.28.2-2.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.2-2
- Avoid a stray underline in a button label


checkgmail-1.13-7.20091022svn.fc12
----------------------------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Rahul Sundaram  - 1.13-6.20091022svn
- Pull svn snapshot to fix authentication issue
- Fix post release snapshot naming and remove redundant requires

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Rahul Sundaram  - 1.13-7.20091022svn
- Add a desktop file
- Add it to session autostart


compiz-0.8.2-18.fc12
--------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Adel Gadllah  - 0.8.2-16
- Don't ship broken keybindings files RH #530603

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Adel Gadllah  - 0.8.2-17
- Fix was wrong - revert it

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 0.8.2-18
- Better fix for keybindings


comps-extras-17-1
-----------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Bill Nottingham  - 17-1
- add LXDE logo (#529792)
- add books, font-design icon symlinks


control-center-2.28.1-3.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.1-2
- Fix missing fingerprint icons

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.1-3
- Change 'Best shapes' to mean grayscale+slight


empathy-2.28.1.1-2.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-3
- Another upstream crash fix

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Brian Pepple  - 2.28.1.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1.1.
- See http://download.gnome.org/sources/empathy/2.28/empathy-2.28.1.1.news

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Brian Pepple  - 2.28.1.1-2
- Disable panel applets, since they are unmaintained and being dropped from Empathy.

* Sun Oct 25 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-2
- Include a number of crash fixes from the stable branch


environment-modules-3.2.7b-5.fc12
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 3.2.7b-5
- Don't assume different shell init scripts exist (bug #530770)


fpc-2.2.4-4.fc12.2
------------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Joost van der Sluis  2.2.4-4.2
- Fixed compilation on ppc

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Joost van der Sluis  2.2.4-4.1
- Restored accidentally removed ppc64 compiler name

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Joost van der Sluis  2.2.4-4
- fixed procvar parameter passing on ppc/sysv (by value instead of by
  reference -- except for method procvars, for tmethod record compatibility)


gdesklets-0.36.1-6.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.36.1-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


gds2pov-0.20080229-3.fc12
-------------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.20080229-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


gedit-plugins-2.26.1-3.fc12
---------------------------
* Mon Aug 10 2009 Ville Skytt?  - 2.26.1-3
- Use bzipped upstream tarball.

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.26.1-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


geoclue-0.11.1.1-0.9.20091026git73b6729.fc12
--------------------------------------------
* Sat Oct 24 2009 Peter Robinson  0.11.1.1-0.9
- New git snapshit, enable NetworkManager support for WiFi location, gsmloc and new Skyhook plugin


giggle-0.4.91-3.fc12
--------------------
* Tue Aug 11 2009 Ville Skytt?  - 0.4.91-3
- Use bzipped upstream tarball.

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.4.91-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


gl-117-1.3.2-9.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.3.2-9
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


glabels-2.2.5-2.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.2.5-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


glade2-2.12.2-7.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.12.2-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


glglobe-0.2-8.fc12
------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.2-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


glib2-2.22.2-2.fc12
-------------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.22.2-2
- Fix two problems with mime type detection in GIO


glitz-0.5.6-8.fc12
------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.5.6-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


gliv-1.9.6-5.fc12
-----------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.9.6-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


glob2-0.9.4.1-2.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.9.4.1-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


glom-1.12.2-1.fc12
------------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Denis Leroy  - 1.12.2-1
- Update to upstream 1.12.2
- Fixed gnome-python2-gda run-time Require (#530656)


gnome-applet-bubblemon-2.0.14-2.fc12
------------------------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.0.14-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


gnome-applet-grandr-0.4.1-2.fc12
--------------------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.4.1-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


gnome-power-manager-2.28.1-2.fc12
---------------------------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Richard Hughes   - 2.28.1-2
- Backport two patches from git master to polish the UI for F12.


gnome-settings-daemon-2.28.1-3.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Peter Hutterer  2.28.1-2
- left-handed-touchpad.patch: change physical touchpad buttons to
  left-handed, not tapping though (#498249)

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-3
- Change default font rendering to use slight hinting


gnome-user-share-2.28.1-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


html-xml-utils-5.5-2.fc12
-------------------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Milos Jakubicek  - 5.5-2
- Added html-xml-utils-5.5-hxpipe-man.patch, resolves BZ#527655


ibus-m17n-1.2.0.20090617-5.fc12
-------------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Peng Huang  - 1.2.0.20090617-5
- Update iok patch to fix bug 530493.


iok-1.3.8-1.fc12
----------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Parag Nemade - 1.3.8-1
- Update to Next release 1.3.8


jasper-1.900.1-13.fc12
----------------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.900.1-13
- CVE-2008-3520 jasper: multiple integer overflows in jas_alloc calls (#461476)
- CVE-2008-3522 jasper: possible buffer overflow in 
  jas_stream_printf() (#461478)


kdeartwork-4.3.2-3.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-3
- rhel cleanup


kdenetwork-4.3.2-4.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-4
- rhel cleanup


kdeplasma-addons-4.3.2-5.fc12
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.2-5
- remove duplicate BR on eigen2-devel


klibido-0.2.5-12.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.2.5-12
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


konq-plugins-4.3.1-3.fc12
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.3.1-3
- rhel cleanup


kpackagekit-0.5.0.2-1.fc12
--------------------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Steven M. Parrish  - 0.5.0.2-1
- Official 0.5.0.2 release


ktorrent-3.2.5-1.fc12
---------------------
* Sat Oct 24 2009 Rex Dieter  - 3.2.5-1
- ktorrent-3.2.5


ladspa-swh-plugins-0.4.15-16.fc12
---------------------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.4.15-16
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


libXxf86dga-1.1.1-1.fc12
------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Peter Hutterer  1.1.1-1
- libXxf86dga 1.1.1
  Requires xorg-x11-proto-devel for new xf86dgaproto.


libbtctl-0.11.1-3.fc12
----------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.11.1-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


libfakekey-0.1-3.fc12
---------------------
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.1-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


libgtk-java-2.8.7-13.fc12
-------------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Milos Jakubicek  - 2.8.7-13
- Bump release to able to tag on different branch

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 2.8.7-12
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild

* Mon Apr 27 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 2.8.7-11
- fix multilib problem with an example script (#342171)


libv4l-0.6.3-1.fc12
-------------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Hans de Goede  0.6.3-1
- New upstream release 0.6.3


lxde-common-0.4.2-2.fc12
------------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.4.2-2
- Final tweaks for the LXDE Spin


mathgl-1.9-7.fc12
-----------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Milos Jakubicek  - 1.9-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


moblin-panel-people-0.0.8-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Peter Robinson  0.0.8-1
- New upstream 0.0.8 release


mojito-0.21.5-1.fc12
--------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Peter Robinson  0.21.5-1
- Update to 0.21.5


nbtk-1.1.9-1.fc12
-----------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Peter Robinson  1.1.9-1
- New upstream 1.1.9 release


openvpn-2.1-0.37.rc20.fc12
--------------------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Robert Scheck  2.1-0.37.rc20
- Added script_security initialisation in initscript (#458594 #c20)

* Fri Oct 02 2009 Steven Pritchard  2.1-0.36.rc20
- Update to 2.1_rc20.


perl-Apache2-SOAP-0.73-3.fc12
-----------------------------
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.73-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


perl-DBD-MySQL-4.013-2.fc12
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 4.013-2
- new upstream version


perl-POE-Component-Client-Keepalive-0.2600-3.fc12
-------------------------------------------------
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Stepan Kasal  0.2600-3
- keep the version aligned to 0.xxxx to maintain upgrade path

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Chris Weyl  0.260-2
- fix provides version (for perl-POE-Component-Client-HTTP)

* Sun Sep 27 2009 Chris Weyl  0.260-1
- update filtering
- auto-update to 0.260 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(Net::IP) (version 1.25)
- altered br on perl(POE) (0.31 => 1.007)
- altered br on perl(POE::Component::Client::DNS) (1.01 => 1.04)
- added a new req on perl(Net::IP) (version 1.25)
- added a new req on perl(POE) (version 1.007)
- added a new req on perl(POE::Component::Client::DNS) (version 1.04)


perl-Perl-Critic-1.105-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1.105-1
- new upstream version
- update build requires

* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.098-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild

* Sun May 17 2009 Chris Weyl  1.098-1
- "neaten" filtering
- auto-update to 1.098 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01)
- added a new br on perl(strict) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(Scalar::Util) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(File::Temp) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(Pod::Usage) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(File::Find) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(PPI::Token::Whitespace) (version 1.203)
- added a new br on perl(charnames) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(PPI::Document::File) (version 1.203)
- added a new br on perl(File::Spec::Unix) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(List::Util) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(lib) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(Getopt::Long) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(Exporter) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(Test::More) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(overload) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(base) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(version) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(Carp) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(warnings) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(PPI::Document) (version 1.203)
- added a new br on perl(File::Basename) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(PPI::Token::Quote::Single) (version 1.203)
- added a new br on perl(File::Spec) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(File::Path) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(Pod::PlainText) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(Pod::Select) (version 0)
- added a new br on perl(PPI::Node) (version 1.203)
- added a new br on perl(English) (version 0)


petitboot-0.2-4.fc12
--------------------
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.2-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


pfqueue-0.5.6-10.fc12
---------------------
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.5.6-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


pfscalibration-1.4-7.fc12
-------------------------
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.4-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


pfstools-1.7.0-8.fc12
---------------------
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.7.0-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


poppler-0.12.1-3.fc12
---------------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.12.1-3
- CVE-2009-3607 poppler: create_surface_from_thumbnail_data
  integer overflow (#526924)


python-igraph-0.5.2-4.fc12
--------------------------
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.5.2-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild

* Sat May 02 2009 Neal Becker  - 0.5.2-3
- Try removing Requires


python-polybori-0.5-6.fc12
--------------------------
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.5-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


python-repoze-what-1.0.8-6.fc12
-------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Luke Macken  - 1.0.8-5
- Require python-repoze-who-testutil

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Luke Macken  - 1.0.8-6
- Rev bump to hack around CVS tags


qemu-0.11.0-8.fc12
------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Glauber Costa  - 2:0.11.0-8
- Properly save kvm time registers (#524229)


quassel-0.5.0-1.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Steven M. Parrish  - 0.5.0-1
- Official 0.5.0 release


samba-3.4.2-47.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Simo Sorce  - 3.4.2-47
- Spec file cleanup
- Fix sources upstream location
- Remove conditionals to build talloc and tdb, now they are completely indepent
  packages in Fedora
- Add defattr() where missing
- Turn all tabs into 4 spaces
- Remove unused migration script
- Split winbind-clients out of main winbind package to avoid multilib to include
  huge packages for no good reason

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Guenther Deschner  - 3.4.2-0.46
- Update to 3.4.2
- Security Release, fixes CVE-2009-2813, CVE-2009-2948 and CVE-2009-2906

* Wed Sep 16 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 3.4.1-0.45
- Use password-auth common PAM configuration instead of system-auth

* Wed Sep 09 2009 Guenther Deschner  - 3.4.1-0.44
- Update to 3.4.1


squidGuard-1.4-8.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Jon Ciesla  - 1.4-8
- Applying upstream patches for CVE-2009-3700, BZ 530862.

* Thu Sep 24 2009 Jon Ciesla  - 1.4-7
- Make squidGuard.cgi config(noreplace)
- Relocated logs, updated logrotate file.
- Updated blacklist URL.


sssd-0.7.0-2.fc12
-----------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.7.0-2
- Fix upgrade issues from old (pre-0.5.0) releases of SSSD


strace-4.5.19-1.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 21 2009 Roland McGrath  - 4.5.19-1
- New upstream release, work mostly by Dmitry V. Levin 
  + exit/kill strace with traced process exitcode/signal (#105371);
  + fixed build on ARM EABI (#507576);
  + fixed display of 32-bit argv array on 64-bit architectures (#519480);
  + fixed display of 32-bit fcntl(F_SETLK) on 64-bit architectures (#471169);
  + fixed several bugs in strings decoder, including potential heap
    memory corruption (#470529, #478324, #511035).


totem-2.28.2-1.fc12
-------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.2-1
- Update to 2.28.2

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-4
- Add missing dependency (#529845)


trac-iniadmin-plugin-0.1-7.20091026svn6877.fc12
-----------------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Jesse Keating  - 0.1-7.20091026svn3915
- Update for 0.11


transmission-1.76-1.fc12
------------------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Rahul Sundaram  - 1.76-1
- http://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/Changes#version-1.76


uxlaunch-0.30-1.fc12
--------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Peter Robinson  0.30-1
- New upstream 0.30 release

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Peter Robinson  0.29-1
- New upstream 0.29 release


wxMaxima-0.8.3a-1.fc12
----------------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Rex Dieter  - 0.8.3a-1
- wxMaxima-0.8.3a (#530915)


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.13.0-0.10.20091006git457646d73.fc12
------------------------------------------------------
* Fri Oct 09 2009 Dave Airlie  6.13.0-0.9.20091006git457646d73
- reload cursors on mode switch/rotate

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Dave Airlie  6.13.0-0.10.20091006git457646d73
- Don't use scratch pixmaps for rotate

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Dave Airlie  6.13.0-0.8.20091006git457646d73
- fix rotate (#527000)


xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.9.1-1.fc12
-------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Adam Jackson  2.9.1-1
- intel 2.9.1

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Dave Airlie  2.9.0-3
- set gamma on mode set major for kms


xorg-x11-drv-neomagic-1.2.4-2.fc12
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Adam Jackson  1.2.4-2
- neomagic-usleep.patch: Fix for new server ABI. (#523800)


xpad-4.0-5.fc12
---------------
* Sat Oct 24 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 4.0-5
- Remove autostart again. Doesn't work properly and is annoying on Live CDs
- Spec file clean-ups


Summary:
Added Packages: 2
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 82



From gmaxwell at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 12:26:40 2009
From: gmaxwell at gmail.com (Gregory Maxwell)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:26:40 -0400
Subject: theora screencasting not working in F12
In-Reply-To: <1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <2068886238.239631256643507351.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Kamil Paral  wrote:
[snip]
> So, I'm just curious, do you have some advice how to draw attention
> to a particular bug the right people, except from reporting it into
> bugzilla and waiting perhaps months or years? I mean it for this issue
> but I also mean it generally for other (future) issues. Give me a hint
> if you have some. Thanks!

File the bug with upstream rather than just lobbing it into bugzilla.

Two minutes after I received your list mail (35 minutes after you sent
it) you had a response (though, it's one telling you that your problem
is NOTABUG in libtheora)? behold the power of an issue reaching
someone with upstream experience.



From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl  Tue Oct 27 13:10:12 2009
From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:10:12 +0100
Subject: rawhide report: 20091027 changes
In-Reply-To: <20091027121110.GA20529@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
References: <20091027121110.GA20529@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20091027131011.GA3236@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:11:10PM +0000, Rawhide Report wrote:
> Compose started at Tue Oct 27 06:15:09 UTC 2009
> 
> Broken deps for i386
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
> 	blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
> 	orsa-lam-0.7.0-11.fc12.i686 requires lam
> 	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
> 	scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
> 	tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
> 	tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
> 	tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
> 	tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0

> Removed package lam

Huh what? WTH are you thinking removing a package when we're in Beta
freeze?

R.

-- 
Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski   |  LAN  Staff
Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling
University of Warsaw  |  http://www.icm.edu.pl  | tel. +48 22 5540810



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Tue Oct 27 13:17:30 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:17:30 -0600
Subject: Sound
Message-ID: <1256649450.3014.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

I am running Fedora Beta 12 on Dell Inspiron E1705 and I can't get any
sound.  I have Pandora and it freezes up and won't let me do anything on
that site.  Will someone look at the permissions concerning pulseaudio
if that is indeed the problem.  I don't know.
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From jeff at ocjtech.us  Tue Oct 27 13:35:34 2009
From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:35:34 -0500
Subject: rawhide report: 20091027 changes
In-Reply-To: <20091027131011.GA3236@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>
References: <20091027121110.GA20529@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<20091027131011.GA3236@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <935ead450910270635t4f91fdf2h743855cb6a20ac4d@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
 wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:11:10PM +0000, Rawhide Report wrote:
>> Compose started at Tue Oct 27 06:15:09 UTC 2009
>>
>> Broken deps for i386
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> ? ? ? blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
>> ? ? ? blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
>> ? ? ? orsa-lam-0.7.0-11.fc12.i686 requires lam
>> ? ? ? scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
>> ? ? ? scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
>> ? ? ? tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
>> ? ? ? tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
>> ? ? ? tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
>> ? ? ? tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
>
>> Removed package lam
>
> Huh what? WTH are you thinking removing a package when we're in Beta
> freeze?

Here's the tickets that discussed the removal:

https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2712
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523998

lam should probably be added back until the dependent programs can be
migrated to use OpenMPI.

-- 
Jeff Ollie



From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl  Tue Oct 27 13:42:00 2009
From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:42:00 +0100
Subject: rawhide report: 20091027 changes
In-Reply-To: <935ead450910270635t4f91fdf2h743855cb6a20ac4d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20091027121110.GA20529@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<20091027131011.GA3236@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>
	<935ead450910270635t4f91fdf2h743855cb6a20ac4d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091027134200.GB3236@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:35:34AM -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
>  wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:11:10PM +0000, Rawhide Report wrote:
> >> Compose started at Tue Oct 27 06:15:09 UTC 2009
> >>
> >> Broken deps for i386
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> ? ? ? blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
> >> ? ? ? blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
> >> ? ? ? orsa-lam-0.7.0-11.fc12.i686 requires lam
> >> ? ? ? scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
> >> ? ? ? scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
> >> ? ? ? tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
> >> ? ? ? tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
> >> ? ? ? tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
> >> ? ? ? tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
> >
> >> Removed package lam
> >
> > Huh what? WTH are you thinking removing a package when we're in Beta
> > freeze?
> 
> Here's the tickets that discussed the removal:
> 
> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2712
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523998
> 
> lam should probably be added back until the dependent programs can be
> migrated to use OpenMPI.

I notice that there isn't a word there about who will be responsible for
fixing the packages which depend on LAM currently. You can't just remove
a package without some sort of early warning and a plan to fix the
fall-out.

Regards,
R.

-- 
Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski   |  LAN  Staff
Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling
University of Warsaw  |  http://www.icm.edu.pl  | tel. +48 22 5540810



From schaiba at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 13:57:00 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:57:00 +0200
Subject: Nouveau doesn't play nice with vanilla kernels
Message-ID: <4AE6FC2C.9070201@gmail.com>

As the title says, if I boot a git kernel (Linus' tree), plymouth 
doesn't work, nor does X start. I have to change the graphics driver to 
nv in xorg.conf and restart in order to  get  the git kernel working 
with X, but then the Fedora kernels won't start X with the nv  driver.  
Anyone else  having these problems?



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 14:19:45 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:19:45 -0400
Subject: 2009-10-26 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting Recap
In-Reply-To: <1256559274.2337.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1256559274.2337.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256653185.2447.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>

As always, notes available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20091026

========================================================================================
#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20091026
========================================================================================


Meeting started by jlaska at 16:08:23 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-26/fedora-meeting.2009-10-26-16.08.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* Gathering  (jlaska, 16:08:45)

* Previous meeting follow-up  (jlaska, 16:12:52)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Debugging   (jlaska,
    16:13:42)
  * So the only open item on my list is ... should [[KernelBugTriage]]
    be renamed to [[How to debug kernel problems]]?  (jlaska, 16:14:27)

* Viking_Ice locale test suggestion  (jlaska, 16:16:39)
  * LINK:
    https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00503.html
    (jlaska, 16:16:48)

* Marcela Maslanova test day proposal  (jlaska, 16:22:01)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-22   (jlaska,
    16:24:49)

* Milos Jakubicek suggestion on FTBFS bugs  (jlaska, 16:28:37)
  * LINK: http://mjakubicek.fedorapeople.org/need-rebuild.html   (adamw,
    16:29:16)
  * LINK:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=511348&hide_resolved=1
    (adamw, 16:38:52)
  * ACTION: adamw will ask Milos to follow-up at next week's meeting or
    on the list on the FTBFS topic  (jlaska, 16:42:38)

* Viking_Ice locale test suggestion  (jlaska, 16:43:20)
  * LINK:
    https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00503.html
    (jlaska, 16:43:30)
  * LINK: http://fpaste.org/GuOk/   (Viking-Ice, 16:43:54)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:QA/Test_Case
    (jlaska, 16:59:51)
  * ACTION: Viking-Ice investigating creating a test case for bug#530452
    ... and adding to F12 install matrix  (jlaska, 17:00:31)

* AutoQA Updates from wwoods and kparal  (jlaska, 17:02:14)
  * LINK:
    http://kparal.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/rpmguard-print-important-differences-between-rpms/
    (kparal, 17:02:54)
  * LINK: http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/misc/mungingdiff.py   (kparal,
    17:03:18)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/75   (kparal, 17:03:41)
  * the upcoming task is to look at the watcher wwoods is working on and
    integrate rpmguard into autoqa to have it up and running  (jlaska,
    17:04:28)
  * basic watcher for koji in place.  picks up every new build in a set
    of koji tags that we specify  (jlaska, 17:07:54)
  * wwoods has a library soon to be added to git repo which takes a
    package NVR and tag and provides the previous released versions of
    that package  (jlaska, 17:08:31)
  * ACTION: wwoods to add roadmap/tickets for reworking shared autoqa
    code (watchers, test helper methods, etc) into a proper library
    (wwoods, 17:14:15)
  * update from mmcgrath on hardware the hardware delivery ... looking
    at Nov 20  (jlaska, 17:15:08)
  * LINK: http://wwoods.fedorapeople.org/files/critical-path/critpath.py
    (jlaska, 17:16:06)
  * jwb working to integrate critpath script into daily rawhide compose
    process  (jlaska, 17:19:08)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/autoqa-devel
    (wwoods, 17:20:54)

* Upcoming QA events - 2009-10-29 - i18n Test Day  (jlaska, 17:23:55)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-29   (jlaska,
    17:23:59)
  * Looking for volunteers  (jlaska, 17:24:08)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/25   (jlaska,
    17:25:31)

* Upcoming QA events - 2009-10-30 - Blocker Bug Day #2  (jlaska,
  17:26:25)
  * LINK:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=473303&hide_resolved=1
    (jlaska, 17:27:02)
  * LINK:
    https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00579.html
    (jlaska, 17:27:28)

* Open discussion -   (jlaska, 17:30:25)

Meeting ended at 17:36:39 UTC.

Action Items
------------
* adamw will ask Milos to follow-up at next week's meeting or on the
  list on the FTBFS topic
* Viking-Ice investigating creating a test case for bug#530452 ... and
  adding to F12 install matrix
* wwoods to add roadmap/tickets for reworking shared autoqa code
  (watchers, test helper methods, etc) into a proper library




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
  * adamw will ask Milos to follow-up at next week's meeting or on the
    list on the FTBFS topic
* Viking-Ice
  * Viking-Ice investigating creating a test case for bug#530452 ... and
    adding to F12 install matrix
* wwoods
  * wwoods to add roadmap/tickets for reworking shared autoqa code
    (watchers, test helper methods, etc) into a proper library
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




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* jlaska (160)
* wwoods (58)
* adamw (46)
* Oxf13 (35)
* Viking-Ice (24)
* kparal (17)
* jwb (7)
* jeff_hann (4)
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From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 27 14:23:32 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:23:32 -0400
Subject: Nouveau doesn't play nice with vanilla kernels
In-Reply-To: <4AE6FC2C.9070201@gmail.com>
References: <4AE6FC2C.9070201@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE70264.3040506@sbcglobal.net>

On 10/27/2009 09:57 AM, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> As the title says, if I boot a git kernel (Linus' tree), plymouth 
> doesn't work, nor does X start. I have to change the graphics driver 
> to nv in xorg.conf and restart in order to  get  the git kernel 
> working with X, but then the Fedora kernels won't start X with the nv  
> driver.  Anyone else  having these problems?
>
Yes, If you updated the new kernel-2.6.31.5-96 yesterday get rid of it 
and bootup
in old kernel.
I had the same problem.



From schaiba at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 14:29:49 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:29:49 +0200
Subject: Nouveau doesn't play nice with vanilla kernels
In-Reply-To: <4AE70264.3040506@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4AE6FC2C.9070201@gmail.com> <4AE70264.3040506@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4AE703DD.20808@gmail.com>

On 10/27/2009 04:23 PM, Jim wrote:
> On 10/27/2009 09:57 AM, Aioanei Rares wrote:
>> As the title says, if I boot a git kernel (Linus' tree), plymouth 
>> doesn't work, nor does X start. I have to change the graphics driver 
>> to nv in xorg.conf and restart in order to  get  the git kernel 
>> working with X, but then the Fedora kernels won't start X with the 
>> nv  driver.  Anyone else  having these problems?
>>
> Yes, If you updated the new kernel-2.6.31.5-96 yesterday get rid of it 
> and bootup
> in old kernel.
> I had the same problem.
>
Thanks, but then the first issue remains : why can't nouveau start X 
with vanilla kernels?



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 14:59:15 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:59:15 -0700
Subject: Nouveau doesn't play nice with vanilla kernels
In-Reply-To: <4AE703DD.20808@gmail.com>
References: <4AE6FC2C.9070201@gmail.com> <4AE70264.3040506@sbcglobal.net>
	<4AE703DD.20808@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256655555.2314.578.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 16:29 +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> On 10/27/2009 04:23 PM, Jim wrote:
> > On 10/27/2009 09:57 AM, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> >> As the title says, if I boot a git kernel (Linus' tree), plymouth 
> >> doesn't work, nor does X start. I have to change the graphics driver 
> >> to nv in xorg.conf and restart in order to  get  the git kernel 
> >> working with X, but then the Fedora kernels won't start X with the 
> >> nv  driver.  Anyone else  having these problems?
> >>
> > Yes, If you updated the new kernel-2.6.31.5-96 yesterday get rid of it 
> > and bootup
> > in old kernel.
> > I had the same problem.
> >
> Thanks, but then the first issue remains : why can't nouveau start X 
> with vanilla kernels?

Because the vanilla kernel doesn't have the nouveau module in it.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From notting at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 15:18:46 2009
From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:18:46 -0400
Subject: rawhide report: 20091027 changes
In-Reply-To: <20091027134200.GB3236@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>
References: <20091027121110.GA20529@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<20091027131011.GA3236@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>
	<935ead450910270635t4f91fdf2h743855cb6a20ac4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091027134200.GB3236@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <20091027151845.GA14564@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>

Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski (D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl) said: 
> > Here's the tickets that discussed the removal:
> > 
> > https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2712
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523998
> > 
> > lam should probably be added back until the dependent programs can be
> > migrated to use OpenMPI.
> 
> I notice that there isn't a word there about who will be responsible for
> fixing the packages which depend on LAM currently. You can't just remove
> a package without some sort of early warning and a plan to fix the
> fall-out.

It has now been unblocked. Given the maintiner's original wish to have
it removed, I suspect it needs a new maintainer.

Bill



From dledford at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 15:40:40 2009
From: dledford at redhat.com (Doug Ledford)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:40:40 -0400
Subject: rawhide report: 20091027 changes
In-Reply-To: <20091027151845.GA14564@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
References: <20091027121110.GA20529@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<20091027131011.GA3236@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>
	<935ead450910270635t4f91fdf2h743855cb6a20ac4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091027134200.GB3236@ws-rathann.icm.edu.pl>
	<20091027151845.GA14564@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4AE71478.2010705@redhat.com>

On 10/27/2009 11:18 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski (D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl) said: 
>>> Here's the tickets that discussed the removal:
>>>
>>> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2712
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523998
>>>
>>> lam should probably be added back until the dependent programs can be
>>> migrated to use OpenMPI.
>>
>> I notice that there isn't a word there about who will be responsible for
>> fixing the packages which depend on LAM currently. You can't just remove
>> a package without some sort of early warning and a plan to fix the
>> fall-out.
> 
> It has now been unblocked. Given the maintiner's original wish to have
> it removed, I suspect it needs a new maintainer.

I *can* maintain it, but you are correct in that I have no wish to.  My
apologies on the way this was handled, I honestly didn't expect anyone
to still be using lam.  It's been deprecated/dead upstream for so long
that I expected all the dependent packages would have moved on by now.

-- 
Doug Ledford 
              GPG KeyID: CFBFF194
	      http://people.redhat.com/dledford

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From selinux at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 15:58:25 2009
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:58:25 -0700
Subject: ksmd - what is expected behavior?
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530910270858y745f906bscb91195ee00a4ec6@mail.gmail.com>

I'm running Rawhide with a qemu-kvm VM that runs WinXP.

I'm noticing 'ksmd' running at a constant 15-25% of my cpu, for example:

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
   32 root      25   5     0    0    0 S 21.2  0.0   2:06.75 ksmd
 2265 tbl       20   0 1227m 530m 8256 R 17.2 13.5   3:09.05 qemu-kvm
 1599 root      20   0  220m  42m  17m S  5.3  1.1   0:55.02 Xorg
 2203 tbl       20   0 1234m  62m  24m S  5.0  1.6   0:28.93 rhythmbox

Checking, I see that "ksmd" is running, but "ksmtuned" is not.

System is Thinkpad X200 with 4GB RAM.  VM image is configured at 512MB.

Is this "to be expected" behavior?

tom
-- 
Tom London



From markmc at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 15:59:44 2009
From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:59:44 +0000
Subject: ksmd - what is expected behavior?
In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530910270858y745f906bscb91195ee00a4ec6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c4ba1530910270858y745f906bscb91195ee00a4ec6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256659184.25282.77.camel@blaa>

Hi Tom,

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 08:58 -0700, Tom London wrote:
> I'm running Rawhide with a qemu-kvm VM that runs WinXP.
> 
> I'm noticing 'ksmd' running at a constant 15-25% of my cpu, for example:
> 
>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
>    32 root      25   5     0    0    0 S 21.2  0.0   2:06.75 ksmd
>  2265 tbl       20   0 1227m 530m 8256 R 17.2 13.5   3:09.05 qemu-kvm
>  1599 root      20   0  220m  42m  17m S  5.3  1.1   0:55.02 Xorg
>  2203 tbl       20   0 1234m  62m  24m S  5.0  1.6   0:28.93 rhythmbox
> 
> Checking, I see that "ksmd" is running, but "ksmtuned" is not.
> 
> System is Thinkpad X200 with 4GB RAM.  VM image is configured at 512MB.
> 
> Is this "to be expected" behavior?

We're just discussing something similar on the fedora-virt list

Currently, ksm is enabled by default in the kernel - since it's disabled
by default in 2.6.32, we'll probably switch to that behaviour

Do you have the ksm or ksmtuned init scripts enabled? Does enabling
ksmtuned help reduce the CPU usage?

Cheers,
Mark.



From selinux at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 16:08:55 2009
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:08:55 -0700
Subject: ksmd - what is expected behavior?
In-Reply-To: <1256659184.25282.77.camel@blaa>
References: <4c4ba1530910270858y745f906bscb91195ee00a4ec6@mail.gmail.com>
	<1256659184.25282.77.camel@blaa>
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530910270908x27ff9459r44e64b99ebbae3b5@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Mark McLoughlin  wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 08:58 -0700, Tom London wrote:
>> I'm running Rawhide with a qemu-kvm VM that runs WinXP.
>>
>> I'm noticing 'ksmd' running at a constant 15-25% of my cpu, for example:
>>
>> ? PID USER ? ? ?PR ?NI ?VIRT ?RES ?SHR S %CPU %MEM ? ?TIME+ ?COMMAND
>> ? ?32 root ? ? ?25 ? 5 ? ? 0 ? ?0 ? ?0 S 21.2 ?0.0 ? 2:06.75 ksmd
>> ?2265 tbl ? ? ? 20 ? 0 1227m 530m 8256 R 17.2 13.5 ? 3:09.05 qemu-kvm
>> ?1599 root ? ? ?20 ? 0 ?220m ?42m ?17m S ?5.3 ?1.1 ? 0:55.02 Xorg
>> ?2203 tbl ? ? ? 20 ? 0 1234m ?62m ?24m S ?5.0 ?1.6 ? 0:28.93 rhythmbox
>>
>> Checking, I see that "ksmd" is running, but "ksmtuned" is not.
>>
>> System is Thinkpad X200 with 4GB RAM. ?VM image is configured at 512MB.
>>
>> Is this "to be expected" behavior?
>
> We're just discussing something similar on the fedora-virt list
>
> Currently, ksm is enabled by default in the kernel - since it's disabled
> by default in 2.6.32, we'll probably switch to that behaviour
>
> Do you have the ksm or ksmtuned init scripts enabled? Does enabling
> ksmtuned help reduce the CPU usage?
>
> Cheers,
> Mark.
>
Appears that Rawhide has "ksmd" enabled by default.  "ksmtuned" is not
enabled by default.

Starting ksmtuned via
[root at tlondon init.d]# service ksmtuned start
Starting ksmtuned:                                         [  OK  ]
[root at tlondon init.d]#

Had no immediate effect (in fact, appeared to increase CPU up to about
28-30%) for about a minute or 2.

But after that, top no longer reports ksmd:

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
 2265 tbl       20   0 1227m 530m 8256 S 17.2 13.5   6:04.56 qemu-kvm
 2298 tbl       20   0  849m 161m  27m S 13.2  4.1   1:18.68 firefox
 1599 root      20   0  219m  44m  17m S  9.3  1.1   1:28.51 Xorg
 2203 tbl       20   0 1235m  64m  24m S  4.0  1.6   0:53.86 rhythmbox
 1903 tbl        9 -11  541m  29m  28m S  3.0  0.8   0:23.55 pulseaudio

But I notice that "ksm" appears off:

[root at tlondon init.d]# service ksm status
ksm is not running
[root at tlondon init.d]# service ksmtuned status
ksmtuned (pid  2559) is running...
[root at tlondon init.d]#

Interesting tuning.... ;)

Any idea what is going on?

tom
-- 
Tom London



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 27 16:10:41 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:10:41 -0400
Subject: Nouveau doesn't play nice with vanilla kernels
In-Reply-To: <4AE703DD.20808@gmail.com>
References: <4AE6FC2C.9070201@gmail.com> <4AE70264.3040506@sbcglobal.net>
	<4AE703DD.20808@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE71B81.9010408@sbcglobal.net>

On 10/27/2009 10:29 AM, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> On 10/27/2009 04:23 PM, Jim wrote:
>> On 10/27/2009 09:57 AM, Aioanei Rares wrote:
>>> As the title says, if I boot a git kernel (Linus' tree), plymouth 
>>> doesn't work, nor does X start. I have to change the graphics driver 
>>> to nv in xorg.conf and restart in order to  get  the git kernel 
>>> working with X, but then the Fedora kernels won't start X with the 
>>> nv  driver.  Anyone else  having these problems?
>>>
>> Yes, If you updated the new kernel-2.6.31.5-96 yesterday get rid of 
>> it and bootup
>> in old kernel.
>> I had the same problem.
>>
> Thanks, but then the first issue remains : why can't nouveau start X 
> with vanilla kernels?
>
I use a nvidia 8200 card and it won't detect nouveau either.
I installed system-config-display and went into change driver , my card 
is detected with a Vesa driver.
I selected nouveau and restarted   X  but it will only accept a higher 
resolution and would not allow me to keep my settings at 1024x768.



From markmc at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 16:10:55 2009
From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:10:55 +0000
Subject: ksmd - what is expected behavior?
In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530910270908x27ff9459r44e64b99ebbae3b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c4ba1530910270858y745f906bscb91195ee00a4ec6@mail.gmail.com>
	<1256659184.25282.77.camel@blaa>
	<4c4ba1530910270908x27ff9459r44e64b99ebbae3b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256659855.25282.79.camel@blaa>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 09:08 -0700, Tom London wrote:
...
> But I notice that "ksm" appears off:
> 
> [root at tlondon init.d]# service ksm status
> ksm is not running
> [root at tlondon init.d]# service ksmtuned status
> ksmtuned (pid  2559) is running...
> [root at tlondon init.d]#
> 
> Interesting tuning.... ;)
> 
> Any idea what is going on?

Yes, because ksmd (a kernel thread) is enabled by default, the ksm init
script isn't needed to enable it currently

However, in 2.6.32, ksmd is disabled by default and the ksm init script
will be needed to enable it

Cheers,
Mark.



From selinux at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 16:20:20 2009
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:20:20 -0700
Subject: ksmd - what is expected behavior?
In-Reply-To: <1256659855.25282.79.camel@blaa>
References: <4c4ba1530910270858y745f906bscb91195ee00a4ec6@mail.gmail.com>
	<1256659184.25282.77.camel@blaa>
	<4c4ba1530910270908x27ff9459r44e64b99ebbae3b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<1256659855.25282.79.camel@blaa>
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530910270920i3baf2807l4bbabf612c68842c@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Mark McLoughlin  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 09:08 -0700, Tom London wrote:
> ...
>> But I notice that "ksm" appears off:
>>
>> [root at tlondon init.d]# service ksm status
>> ksm is not running
>> [root at tlondon init.d]# service ksmtuned status
>> ksmtuned (pid ?2559) is running...
>> [root at tlondon init.d]#
>>
>> Interesting tuning.... ;)
>>
>> Any idea what is going on?
>
> Yes, because ksmd (a kernel thread) is enabled by default, the ksm init
> script isn't needed to enable it currently
>
> However, in 2.6.32, ksmd is disabled by default and the ksm init script
> will be needed to enable it
>
> Cheers,
> Mark.
>
>
OK.  So is the "reasonable" setup to have "ksmtuned" enabled (to disable "ksm")?

Or is it necessary to manually run "service ksmtuned start" manually.....

tom
-- 
Tom London



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 16:26:30 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:26:30 -0400
Subject: theora screencasting not working in F12
In-Reply-To: 
References: <2068886238.239631256643507351.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	
Message-ID: <1256660790.2447.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 08:26 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Kamil Paral  wrote:
> [snip]
> > So, I'm just curious, do you have some advice how to draw attention
> > to a particular bug the right people, except from reporting it into
> > bugzilla and waiting perhaps months or years? I mean it for this issue
> > but I also mean it generally for other (future) issues. Give me a hint
> > if you have some. Thanks!
> 
> File the bug with upstream rather than just lobbing it into bugzilla.
> 
> Two minutes after I received your list mail (35 minutes after you sent
> it) you had a response (though, it's one telling you that your problem
> is NOTABUG in libtheora)? behold the power of an issue reaching
> someone with upstream experience.

Thanks for your feedback in the bug report Gregory.  I read Kamil's
message to the list more around how to couple test feedback with feature
pages.  We have one obvious method now in Test Days.  Unfortunately, we
have far more features than test days.  So, once a feature is complete
and available in rawhide ... as testers, what's our mechanism to provide
the feature owner(s) with test feedback as they've requested [1]?

Thanks,
James

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Thusnelda#How_To_Test
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 17:06:22 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:06:22 -0700
Subject: Nouveau doesn't play nice with vanilla kernels
In-Reply-To: <4AE71B81.9010408@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4AE6FC2C.9070201@gmail.com> <4AE70264.3040506@sbcglobal.net>
	<4AE703DD.20808@gmail.com>  <4AE71B81.9010408@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1256663182.2314.581.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 12:10 -0400, Jim wrote:
> On 10/27/2009 10:29 AM, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> > On 10/27/2009 04:23 PM, Jim wrote:
> >> On 10/27/2009 09:57 AM, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> >>> As the title says, if I boot a git kernel (Linus' tree), plymouth 
> >>> doesn't work, nor does X start. I have to change the graphics driver 
> >>> to nv in xorg.conf and restart in order to  get  the git kernel 
> >>> working with X, but then the Fedora kernels won't start X with the 
> >>> nv  driver.  Anyone else  having these problems?
> >>>
> >> Yes, If you updated the new kernel-2.6.31.5-96 yesterday get rid of 
> >> it and bootup
> >> in old kernel.
> >> I had the same problem.
> >>
> > Thanks, but then the first issue remains : why can't nouveau start X 
> > with vanilla kernels?
> >
> I use a nvidia 8200 card and it won't detect nouveau either.
> I installed system-config-display and went into change driver , my card 
> is detected with a Vesa driver.
> I selected nouveau and restarted   X  but it will only accept a higher 
> resolution and would not allow me to keep my settings at 1024x768.

Most modern drivers use a different method for specifying resolutions.
This was introduced with RandR 1.2. s-c-d has never been updated to use
this.

You can use gnome-display-properties to change the resolution inside
GNOME (and configure multiple displays, and a few other things) and any
changes you made are saved via gconf, so they will be applied each time
that user logs in. If you want to set them system-wide so they apply to
all users and desktops and login managers, you'll have to edit xorg.conf
manually according to this guide:

http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12

s-c-d is pretty obsolescent these days, it probably needs to be revised
or shot in the head soon.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 17:33:10 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:33:10 -0700
Subject: Sound
In-Reply-To: <1256649450.3014.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256649450.3014.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256664790.2314.582.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 07:17 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> I am running Fedora Beta 12 on Dell Inspiron E1705 and I can't get any
> sound.  I have Pandora and it freezes up and won't let me do anything on
> that site.  Will someone look at the permissions concerning pulseaudio
> if that is indeed the problem.  I don't know.

Please try something simpler as a test, like playing a .ogg file in
Rhythmbox or something like that.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 17:44:17 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:44:17 -0400
Subject: Sound
In-Reply-To: <1256664790.2314.582.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256649450.3014.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256664790.2314.582.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1256665457.2447.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 10:33 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 07:17 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > I am running Fedora Beta 12 on Dell Inspiron E1705 and I can't get any
> > sound.  I have Pandora and it freezes up and won't let me do anything on
> > that site.  Will someone look at the permissions concerning pulseaudio
> > if that is indeed the problem.  I don't know.
> 
> Please try something simpler as a test, like playing a .ogg file in
> Rhythmbox or something like that.

Tooting Adam's horn here ... there are several great audio test cases
created by Adam for the Audio Test Day [1].  For example, you might try
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_audio_basic.  Additional
tests are available [2].

Thanks,
James

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-09-16_Audio
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Audio_Test_Cases
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From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Tue Oct 27 17:53:08 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:53:08 -0400
Subject: New kernel in F12
In-Reply-To: <20091026221013.GA24335@wolff.to>
References: <1256589013.2314.567.camel@adam.local.net>
	<20091026221013.GA24335@wolff.to>
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On 10/26/2009 06:10 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 13:30:13 -0700,
>    Adam Williamson  wrote:
>> Just a note that the kernel build in F12 was updated over the weekend,
>> from 56 (which shipped in beta) to 96. This has quite a few changes
>> queued up, so if all F12 testers can please reboot and make sure the new
>> kernel works, that'd be great.
>
> 96 is old news now, but I did run it for a bit. The kernels starting on Friday
> seem to help with some crashes I had been having that I suspected of being
> KMS / ATI related. The 97 kernel seems to be working well as well.
>
> One odd thing I have been seeing lately is a timeout while trying to
> detect one of my two disks. Things work OK afterwards, but I didn't used
> to see those messages. Usually it is ATA3 that gets the warning, but I think
> I also got it for ATA4 a couple of times. The disks are old, so it could
> be a change in the status of the hardware rather than the kernel.
>
  For the 96 kernel and my RV630 graphics and 
xorg-x11-server-utils-7.4-13.fc12.x86_64 I still have to user pcieasm=off.

  For the 97 kernel, pcieasm=off no longer works and I have to use 
nomodeset to get to a desktop.

Which bz covers this (these?) issue(s)?  There seems to be several 
speaking to ati and nvidia and kms sometimes all on the same bz.



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Tue Oct 27 17:55:26 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:55:26 -0600
Subject: Sound
In-Reply-To: <1256665457.2447.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1256649450.3014.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256664790.2314.582.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256665457.2447.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256666126.2683.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 13:44 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 10:33 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 07:17 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > > I am running Fedora Beta 12 on Dell Inspiron E1705 and I can't get any
> > > sound.  I have Pandora and it freezes up and won't let me do anything on
> > > that site.  Will someone look at the permissions concerning pulseaudio
> > > if that is indeed the problem.  I don't know.
> > 
> > Please try something simpler as a test, like playing a .ogg file in
> > Rhythmbox or something like that.
> 
> Tooting Adam's horn here ... there are several great audio test cases
> created by Adam for the Audio Test Day [1].  For example, you might try
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_audio_basic.  Additional
> tests are available [2].
> 
> Thanks,
> James
> 
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-09-16_Audio
> [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Audio_Test_Cases
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
-I tried .ogg file and it played fine.  It is just Pandora that is
stuck.  I guess that is not Fedora's fault.  Please forgive me for my
instrustion in your busy schedules for a false alarm.





ILawrence E Graves 



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 18:01:54 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:01:54 -0700
Subject: Sound
In-Reply-To: <1256666126.2683.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256649450.3014.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256664790.2314.582.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256665457.2447.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1256666126.2683.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256666514.2314.583.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 11:55 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:

> -I tried .ogg file and it played fine.  It is just Pandora that is
> stuck.  I guess that is not Fedora's fault.  Please forgive me for my
> instrustion in your busy schedules for a false alarm.

No problem. That doesn't necessarily mean there's not a bug, it just
means it's not in the basic audio support stuff :). How were you
accessing Pandora - through your browser? What browser? Is it a Flash
app? Does sound work in other Flash stuff (YouTube's a good test)?

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Tue Oct 27 18:10:42 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:10:42 -0600
Subject: Sound
In-Reply-To: <1256666514.2314.583.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256649450.3014.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256664790.2314.582.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256665457.2447.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1256666126.2683.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256666514.2314.583.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1256667042.4295.1.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 11:01 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 11:55 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> 
> > -I tried .ogg file and it played fine.  It is just Pandora that is
> > stuck.  I guess that is not Fedora's fault.  Please forgive me for my
> > instrustion in your busy schedules for a false alarm.
> 
> No problem. That doesn't necessarily mean there's not a bug, it just
> means it's not in the basic audio support stuff :). How were you
> accessing Pandora - through your browser? What browser? Is it a Flash
> app? Does sound work in other Flash stuff (YouTube's a good test)?
> 
> -- 
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> http://www.happyassassin.net

Like I said, forgive me for my instrustion.  You tube works fine.
Pandora?
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From johannbg at hi.is  Tue Oct 27 18:20:05 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:20:05 +0000
Subject: theora screencasting not working in F12
In-Reply-To: <1256660790.2447.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <2068886238.239631256643507351.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>	<1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>	
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On 10/27/2009 04:26 PM, James Laska wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 08:26 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
>   
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Kamil Paral  wrote:
>> [snip]
>>     
>>> So, I'm just curious, do you have some advice how to draw attention
>>> to a particular bug the right people, except from reporting it into
>>> bugzilla and waiting perhaps months or years? I mean it for this issue
>>> but I also mean it generally for other (future) issues. Give me a hint
>>> if you have some. Thanks!
>>>       
>> File the bug with upstream rather than just lobbing it into bugzilla.
>>
>> Two minutes after I received your list mail (35 minutes after you sent
>> it) you had a response (though, it's one telling you that your problem
>> is NOTABUG in libtheora)? behold the power of an issue reaching
>> someone with upstream experience.
>>     
> Thanks for your feedback in the bug report Gregory.  I read Kamil's
> message to the list more around how to couple test feedback with feature
> pages.  We have one obvious method now in Test Days.  Unfortunately, we
> have far more features than test days.  So, once a feature is complete
> and available in rawhide ... as testers, what's our mechanism to provide
> the feature owner(s) with test feedback as they've requested [1]?
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Thusnelda#How_To_Test
>   

I perceived Kamil's message just as Gregory.  If it had been me I would
have filed those bugs against istanbul or recordmydesktop regardless of
that the "How to test" section of Thusnelda feature page does not
contain any Test cases for testers to test and to provide feed back
from. AFAIK there was never request [1] to QA to assist and set aside a
test day to test Thusnelda ( or a mail sent to this list asking testers
to test ) not even a reply to [2] and goes without saying if maintainers
don't coordinate with QA or ask testers to test their feature ( which
can be as simple as sending a mail to this list ) it wont get tested and
thus it can be utterly broken which obviously means that marking feature
100% feature done is by all meaningless unless there are some QA/testing
done to confirm it... 

[1]https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa
[2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Features/Thusnelda
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From jmforbes at linuxtx.org  Tue Oct 27 18:48:36 2009
From: jmforbes at linuxtx.org (Justin M. Forbes)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:48:36 -0500
Subject: ksmd - what is expected behavior?
In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530910270920i3baf2807l4bbabf612c68842c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c4ba1530910270858y745f906bscb91195ee00a4ec6@mail.gmail.com>
	<1256659184.25282.77.camel@blaa>
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	<4c4ba1530910270920i3baf2807l4bbabf612c68842c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091027184836.GA15034@linuxtx.org>

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:20:20AM -0700, Tom London wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Mark McLoughlin  wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 09:08 -0700, Tom London wrote:
> > ...
> >> But I notice that "ksm" appears off:
> >>
> >> [root at tlondon init.d]# service ksm status
> >> ksm is not running
> >> [root at tlondon init.d]# service ksmtuned status
> >> ksmtuned (pid ?2559) is running...
> >> [root at tlondon init.d]#
> >>
> >> Interesting tuning.... ;)
> >>
> >> Any idea what is going on?
> >
> > Yes, because ksmd (a kernel thread) is enabled by default, the ksm init
> > script isn't needed to enable it currently
> >
> > However, in 2.6.32, ksmd is disabled by default and the ksm init script
> > will be needed to enable it
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mark.
> >
> >
> OK.  So is the "reasonable" setup to have "ksmtuned" enabled (to disable "ksm")?
> 
> Or is it necessary to manually run "service ksmtuned start" manually.....
> 
ksmtuned is not really there to disable ksm, it will enable and disable
based on what the system is doing... It checks every so often and resets
ksm if it sees a need.  Ideally you would have both ksm and ksmtuned on.
The ksm service will enable ksm if it is disabled, but more importantly it
sets the number of pages ksm can use to half of memory instead of the
horribly low 2k default.  The ksm service would start, set the limits and
turn on ksm if it were off.  The ksmtuned would then start and check the
system, make sure ksm has done the work it needs to based on what the
system is running and then turn off ksm.  Chances are when ksmtuned makes
its first pass, there is no mergeable memory so it just shuts off ksm. Once
you start a few vms, ksmtuned will notice this on the next wakeup and
enable ksm long enough to scan and do its job.

Justin



From gtmkramer at xs4all.nl  Tue Oct 27 19:09:09 2009
From: gtmkramer at xs4all.nl (Jurgen Kramer)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:09:09 +0100
Subject: F12beta: yum update --skip-broken via gui?
In-Reply-To: <1256585371.5437.36.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
References: <1256297927.2672.6.camel@paragon.slim>
	<4AE43DAB.4090406@fedoraproject.org>
	<1256582196.2641.14.camel@paragon.slim>
	<1256585371.5437.36.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
Message-ID: <1256670549.2666.5.camel@paragon.slim>

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 14:29 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 19:36 +0100, Jurgen Kramer wrote:
> > Thanks, I've just experienced the same dependency resolution problem
> > while trying to update my F12 beta install today:
> > 
> > It states: xorg-x11-proto-devel conflicts with libXxf86-dga-devel
> > 
> > Via the GUI I cannot continue without removing xorg-x11-proto-devel from
> > the install list. This is not a problem when there's only one conflict.
> > It would be nice if PacketKit would be able to circumvent those problems
> > or present a list of offending/conflicting packages to deselect.
> 
> Jurgen,
> 
> It appears that this problem has been fixed:
> 
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1767972
> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2715  
> 
> --Doc

OK, thanks. I just used the actual dep problem a way for me see if there
more people who would like to see PackageKit more smarter about fixing
dep probs (from the GUI). I guess editing yum.conf would work as well
but maybe not for the less techie people.

Jurgen




From selinux at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 19:20:12 2009
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:20:12 -0700
Subject: ksmd - what is expected behavior?
In-Reply-To: <20091027184836.GA15034@linuxtx.org>
References: <4c4ba1530910270858y745f906bscb91195ee00a4ec6@mail.gmail.com>
	<1256659184.25282.77.camel@blaa>
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Justin M. Forbes  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:20:20AM -0700, Tom London wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Mark McLoughlin  wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 09:08 -0700, Tom London wrote:
>> > ...
>> >> But I notice that "ksm" appears off:
>> >>
>> >> [root at tlondon init.d]# service ksm status
>> >> ksm is not running
>> >> [root at tlondon init.d]# service ksmtuned status
>> >> ksmtuned (pid ?2559) is running...
>> >> [root at tlondon init.d]#
>> >>
>> >> Interesting tuning.... ;)
>> >>
>> >> Any idea what is going on?
>> >
>> > Yes, because ksmd (a kernel thread) is enabled by default, the ksm init
>> > script isn't needed to enable it currently
>> >
>> > However, in 2.6.32, ksmd is disabled by default and the ksm init script
>> > will be needed to enable it
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Mark.
>> >
>> >
>> OK. ?So is the "reasonable" setup to have "ksmtuned" enabled (to disable "ksm")?
>>
>> Or is it necessary to manually run "service ksmtuned start" manually.....
>>
> ksmtuned is not really there to disable ksm, it will enable and disable
> based on what the system is doing... It checks every so often and resets
> ksm if it sees a need. ?Ideally you would have both ksm and ksmtuned on.
> The ksm service will enable ksm if it is disabled, but more importantly it
> sets the number of pages ksm can use to half of memory instead of the
> horribly low 2k default. ?The ksm service would start, set the limits and
> turn on ksm if it were off. ?The ksmtuned would then start and check the
> system, make sure ksm has done the work it needs to based on what the
> system is running and then turn off ksm. ?Chances are when ksmtuned makes
> its first pass, there is no mergeable memory so it just shuts off ksm. Once
> you start a few vms, ksmtuned will notice this on the next wakeup and
> enable ksm long enough to scan and do its job.
>
> Justin
>
Thanks.

I'll set both ksm and ksmtuned to "enabled" and see what happens on
the next boot.

tom
-- 
Tom London



From awilliam at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 19:42:24 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:42:24 -0700
Subject: Sound
In-Reply-To: <1256667042.4295.1.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256649450.3014.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256664790.2314.582.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256665457.2447.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1256666126.2683.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256666514.2314.583.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256667042.4295.1.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256672544.2314.584.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 12:10 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 11:01 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 11:55 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > 
> > > -I tried .ogg file and it played fine.  It is just Pandora that is
> > > stuck.  I guess that is not Fedora's fault.  Please forgive me for my
> > > instrustion in your busy schedules for a false alarm.
> > 
> > No problem. That doesn't necessarily mean there's not a bug, it just
> > means it's not in the basic audio support stuff :). How were you
> > accessing Pandora - through your browser? What browser? Is it a Flash
> > app? Does sound work in other Flash stuff (YouTube's a good test)?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Adam Williamson
> > Fedora QA Community Monkey
> > IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> > http://www.happyassassin.net
> 
> Like I said, forgive me for my instrustion.  You tube works fine.
> Pandora?

Yeah, it does sound like some problem specific to the Pandora site /
player you're using.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 19:42:26 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:42:26 -0400
Subject: theora screencasting not working in F12
In-Reply-To: <4AE739D5.6090300@hi.is>
References: <2068886238.239631256643507351.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	
	<1256660790.2447.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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Message-ID: <1256672546.2447.65.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 18:20 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> On 10/27/2009 04:26 PM, James Laska wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 08:26 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> >   
> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Kamil Paral  wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >>     
> >>> So, I'm just curious, do you have some advice how to draw attention
> >>> to a particular bug the right people, except from reporting it into
> >>> bugzilla and waiting perhaps months or years? I mean it for this issue
> >>> but I also mean it generally for other (future) issues. Give me a hint
> >>> if you have some. Thanks!
> >>>       
> >> File the bug with upstream rather than just lobbing it into bugzilla.
> >>
> >> Two minutes after I received your list mail (35 minutes after you sent
> >> it) you had a response (though, it's one telling you that your problem
> >> is NOTABUG in libtheora)? behold the power of an issue reaching
> >> someone with upstream experience.
> >>     
> > Thanks for your feedback in the bug report Gregory.  I read Kamil's
> > message to the list more around how to couple test feedback with feature
> > pages.  We have one obvious method now in Test Days.  Unfortunately, we
> > have far more features than test days.  So, once a feature is complete
> > and available in rawhide ... as testers, what's our mechanism to provide
> > the feature owner(s) with test feedback as they've requested [1]?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James
> >
> > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Thusnelda#How_To_Test
> >   
> 
> I perceived Kamil's message just as Gregory.  If it had been me I would
> have filed those bugs against istanbul or recordmydesktop regardless of
> that the "How to test" section of Thusnelda feature page does not
> contain any Test cases for testers to test and to provide feed back
> from. AFAIK there was never request [1] to QA to assist and set aside a
> test day to test Thusnelda ( or a mail sent to this list asking testers
> to test ) not even a reply to [2] and goes without saying if maintainers
> don't coordinate with QA or ask testers to test their feature ( which
> can be as simple as sending a mail to this list ) it wont get tested and
> thus it can be utterly broken which obviously means that marking feature
> 100% feature done is by all meaningless unless there are some QA/testing
> done to confirm it... 

> [1]https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa
> [2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Features/Thusnelda

Thanks for the reminder J?hann, we do have a formal process for
requesting focused testing from the QA team [1].  While the Test Day
process is designed to be self-hosting [2], I still have doubts that we
could accommodate every feature owner if they all requested focused
testing.  Just not enough days.  More to the point, not all test day
topics lend themselves to test days.  So I wonder if there is another
service the QA team could offer.  

We have the infrequently used reactive response should a feature fail to
meet it's stated objectives.  However, is there something we can offer
that's more proactive (as a compliment to test days)?  

> thus it can be utterly broken which obviously means that marking feature
> 100% feature done is by all meaningless unless there are some QA/testing
> done to confirm it... 

The % complete is intended to track development efforts.  Should that
change?

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/Create
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management
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From mclasen at redhat.com  Tue Oct 27 20:36:32 2009
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:36:32 -0400
Subject: theora screencasting not working in F12
In-Reply-To: <4AE739D5.6090300@hi.is>
References: <2068886238.239631256643507351.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	
	<1256660790.2447.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4AE739D5.6090300@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1256675792.1800.28.camel@planemask>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 18:20 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:

> I perceived Kamil's message just as Gregory.  If it had been me I would
> have filed those bugs against istanbul or recordmydesktop regardless of
> that the "How to test" section of Thusnelda feature page does not
> contain any Test cases for testers to test and to provide feed back
> from. AFAIK there was never request [1] to QA to assist and set aside a
> test day to test Thusnelda ( or a mail sent to this list asking testers
> to test ) not even a reply to [2] and goes without saying if maintainers
> don't coordinate with QA or ask testers to test their feature ( which
> can be as simple as sending a mail to this list ) it wont get tested and
> thus it can be utterly broken which obviously means that marking feature
> 100% feature done is by all meaningless unless there are some QA/testing
> done to confirm it... 
> 

So, I think there's a number of things to say here:

1. The Thusnelda feature is not about making desktop recording work
great. It is about including a new Theora encoder in Fedora.

2. I disagree with 'if you don't send a mail to this list your feature
will be broken'. xiph.org has its own community of developers and
testers, and theora has testsuites, etc.

3. The Thusnelda feature was weak on the test plan, indeed.

4. An 'Awesome desktop recording' feature would be nice, and in many
aspects would be much better to put on the feature list than
'Thusnelda'. 







From gmaxwell at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 21:54:31 2009
From: gmaxwell at gmail.com (Gregory Maxwell)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:54:31 -0400
Subject: theora screencasting not working in F12
In-Reply-To: <1256672546.2447.65.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <2068886238.239631256643507351.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	
	<1256660790.2447.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4AE739D5.6090300@hi.is>
	<1256672546.2447.65.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:42 PM, James Laska  wrote:
[snip]
> We have the infrequently used reactive response should a feature fail to
> meet it's stated objectives. ?However, is there something we can offer
> that's more proactive (as a compliment to test days)?

In this case the failure appears to be resulting from the composition
of packages: The screen casting tools using unreasonable settings
which happened to get ignored by older versions of libtheora.

The most important testing that Fedora can do is integration testing.
Libtheora was extensively tested upstream (including for compatibility
with several known popular tools), but I would never have thought of
testing these screencasting utilities.

Presumably upstream will generally handle testing their own packages,
I think that for libraries the distributions can add the most value by
looking for whatrequires it and making a point to test those things.


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Matthias Clasen  wrote:
> xiph.org has its own community of developers and
> testers, and theora has testsuites, etc.

Indeed.   525155 has been open for over a month, even prior to the
official libtheora 1.0 release; the issue turned out to not be with
libtheora upstream, but as far as I can tell no notice was provided in
that direction. ... If legit bugs are taking this long to make it
upstream then that has to adversely impact the quality of Fedora.



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 23:12:53 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:12:53 -0400
Subject: Bug Zappers Meeting Recap for 2009-10-27
Message-ID: <20091027231253.GA24387@blackhare>


================================================================================
#fedora-meeting: Fedora Bug Zappers Meeting - 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Oct-27
================================================================================

Meeting started by tk009 at 15:09:23 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-27/fedora-meeting.2009-10-27-15.09.log.html.


Meeting summary
---------------
* Semantic change - Do we have a firm date for official implementation?
  (tk009, 15:13:21)
  * Tentatively set for 2009-11-12, when the release has been staged to the mirrors. Will update when information becomes available.

* Triage Metrics - Any updates or information?  (tk009, 15:18:07)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/triage/   (adamw, 15:22:24)
  * no new information on this topic.

* Bug Lifecycle - This ties in with the semantics change.  (tk009,
  15:24:22)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow
  * We will revisit this topic on 2009-11-10.
  * (tentatively 2009-11-12) change the box marked ASSIGNED in the image to read Triaged
  * (tentatively 2009-11-12) change a line in the NEW section and the heading of the ASSIGNED section in the text.

* Open Floor - Your topic here.  (tk009, 15:30:49)
  * Bug Triage Event
    * Discussed the up coming Bug Triage Event scheduled for 2009-10-30 at 1500 UTC
    * tk009 will send an Event announcement to f-t-l.
  
* Bug Zappers Housekeeping
    * Link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora12
    * Link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora12#Warning_to_Package_Maintainers
    * Send out "Warning to Package Maintainers" email.
    
* ACTION: tk009 to complete and send the housekeeping developer
    warning email  (tk009, 15:40:53)
* Action: tk009 will send the Bug Triage Event announcement to f-t-l. 

Meeting ended at 15:44:39 UTC.


People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* tk009 (65)
* adamw (44)
* iarlyy (11)
* thomasj (4)
* poelcat (3)
* jwb (2)
* SMParrish (1)
* cebbert (1)

-----
TK009



From idht4n at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 23:49:26 2009
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:49:26 -0700
Subject: rawhide yum update fails
Message-ID: 

I installed f12 alpha right after it was released and updated
a few times before I had to abandon it due to pulseaudio
problems.  I just tried to boot to that rawhide partition and
update and it says there is nothing to do even though I know
there are hundreds of updates since the last time I booted
to that partition.  Why does it think there are no updates?




Also, when I try to install something, I  get a lot of warnings
or errors like this:

(4/10): wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm
                                                                  |
78 kB     00:00
http://mirror.clarkson.edu/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm:
(-1, u'Package does not match intended download')
Trying other mirror.
(4/10): wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm
                                                                  |
78 kB     00:00
http://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm:
(-1, u'Package does not match intended download')
Trying other mirror.
(4/10): wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm
                                                                  |
78 kB     00:00
http://mirror.hmc.edu/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm:
(-1, u'Package does not match intended download')
Trying other mirror.
(4/10): wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm
                                                                  |
78 kB     00:00
http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm:
(-1, u'Package does not match intended download')
Trying other mirror.
(4/10): wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm
                                                                  |
78 kB     00:00
ftp://mirror.cs.princeton.edu/pub/mirrors/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm:
(-1, u'Package does not match intended download')
Trying other mirror.
(4/10): wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm
                                                                  |
78 kB     00:00
http://mirror.hiwaay.net/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm:
(-1, u'Package does not match intended download')
Trying other mirror.
(4/10): wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm
                                                                  |
78 kB     00:00
http://mirror.web-ster.com/fedora/development/i386/os/Packages/wine-common-1.1.29-3.fc12.noarch.rpm:
(-1, u'Package does not match intended download')
Trying other mirror.

Thanks,

           David



From idht4n at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 00:08:36 2009
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:08:36 -0700
Subject: rawhide yum update fails
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:49 PM, David L wrote:
> I installed f12 alpha right after it was released and updated
> a few times before I had to abandon it due to pulseaudio
> problems. ?I just tried to boot to that rawhide partition and
> update and it says there is nothing to do even though I know
> there are hundreds of updates since the last time I booted
> to that partition. ?Why does it think there are no updates?
>
>

A yum clean all seemed to fix the problem for me.  Before the
clean:

yum update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Update Process
No Packages marked for Update

After the clean:
...
Install      18 Package(s)
Upgrade     388 Package(s)
Remove        2 Package(s)
Reinstall     0 Package(s)
Downgrade     0 Package(s)

Total download size: 583 M


                 David



From fedora-test-list at cygnusx-1.org  Wed Oct 28 00:25:08 2009
From: fedora-test-list at cygnusx-1.org (Nathan Grennan)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:25:08 -0700
Subject: VMware Workstation 7 and rawhide
Message-ID: <4AE78F64.1050009@cygnusx-1.org>

   Today I installed VMware Workstation 7 build 203739 x86_64 on my 
rawhide system. It runs, but has issues with guests crashing when I try 
to move the mouse cursor outside the guest's display area. In a terminal 
window I get errors like the one below. The urls below are threads on 
VMware's forums talking about the issue. It seems to have been narrowed 
down to glibc-2.10.90. I looked into downgrading to 2.10.1, but found 
that can't be done without breaking half the system. Like others I tried 
downgrading libX11, without success.

  It get the impression from a little research that I have done that 
Fedora 12 is going to be a mess with random applications, because of the 
newer glibc. glibc's home page says 2.10.1 is the current stable 
release. glibc-2.10.90 seems to be getting lots of fixes as of late. 
glibc being such a core package can break almost anything if it isn't 
stable. Fedora 12's release is only three weeks away.

vmware-vmx: xcb_io.c:542: _XRead: Assertion `dpy->xcb->reply_data != 
((void *)0)' failed.

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/236673?tstart=45
http://communities.vmware.com/thread/229891?start=15&tstart=0



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 00:36:41 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:36:41 -0700
Subject: theora screencasting not working in F12
In-Reply-To: 
References: <2068886238.239631256643507351.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	
	<1256660790.2447.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4AE739D5.6090300@hi.is>
	<1256672546.2447.65.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
Message-ID: <1256690201.2314.591.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 17:54 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:

> Indeed.   525155 has been open for over a month, even prior to the
> official libtheora 1.0 release; the issue turned out to not be with
> libtheora upstream, but as far as I can tell no notice was provided in
> that direction. ... If legit bugs are taking this long to make it
> upstream then that has to adversely impact the quality of Fedora.

Unfortunately we don't have enough manpower in the Bugzappers group yet
to ensure all bugs get looked at. At present we only try to guarantee
coverage for a range of core components, which doesn't yet include
libtheora.

This is of course a way of implying that we need more Bugzappers =) If
we had enough, we could try to provide triage coverage for all reported
bugs. Which would lead to this sort of thing getting handled better,
most likely.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed Oct 28 00:41:41 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:41:41 +0000
Subject: How in the blue blazes does cron work these days?
Message-ID: <102820090041.25772.4AE7934500047343000064AC22230650029B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>

New fedora 12 system: There is nothing in /etc/anacrontab, there is nothing
in /etc/crontab, there is nothing but comments in all files in /etc/cron.d,
there is nothing in /var/spool/cron, there is nothing in /etc/sysconfig/cron.
Running "strings" on crond doesn't reveal any other path names.

Why then is cron running and /var/log/cron recording cron jobs that execute
from the /etc/cron.daily directory, etc?

Where the devil has cron configuration been hidden now? Why doesn't the man
page for cron or anacron mention it? What is going on?



From ryniker at alum.mit.edu  Wed Oct 28 01:03:19 2009
From: ryniker at alum.mit.edu (Richard Ryniker)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:03:19 -0400
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
Message-ID: 

No joy when I plugged a Bose Corporation Companion 5 USB sound system
into an up-to-date (27Oct2009) Rawhide machine.  Perhaps there are
essential pieces missing because this was a Live system installed to
disk, not a full F12 installation from DVD.  This sound system works when
connected to a Fedora 11 machine, although I feel it is definitely less
stable recently than early in the life of F11.

Can someone say they have this type of USB audio output working with F12,
and thus suggest it is an installation/configuration issue instead of
something actually broken?

/var/log/messages has this to say (full log is at http://ryniker.ods.org/errors/eee_log2):

Oct 27 20:50:07 eee kernel: usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=05a7, idProduct=1020
Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: Product: Bose USB Audio
Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: Manufacturer: Bose Corporation
Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: generic-usb 0003:05A7:1020.0001: hiddev96,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device [Bose Corporation Bose USB Audio] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2/input2
Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 2:1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1
Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
Oct 27 20:50:08 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Oct 27 20:50:08 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
Oct 27 20:50:08 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Oct 27 20:50:08 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-udev-detect.c: Tried to configure /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/sound/card1 (alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00) more often than 5 times in 10s
Oct 27 20:50:11 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-udev-detect.c: Failed to open /proc/asound/card1: No such file or directory
Oct 27 20:50:11 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-udev-detect.c: Tried to configure /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/sound/card1 (alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00) more often than 5 times in 10s
Oct 27 20:50:11 eee kernel: usb 3-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
Oct 27 20:50:11 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 2:1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1
Oct 27 20:50:11 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Oct 27 20:50:11 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-udev-detect.c: Tried to configure /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/sound/card1 (alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00) more often than 5 times in 10s



From mike at miketc.net  Wed Oct 28 01:13:23 2009
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:13:23 -0500
Subject: How in the blue blazes does cron work these days?
In-Reply-To: <102820090041.25772.4AE7934500047343000064AC22230650029B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>
References: <102820090041.25772.4AE7934500047343000064AC22230650029B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>
Message-ID: <1256692403.9771.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 00:41 +0000, Tom Horsley wrote:
> New fedora 12 system: There is nothing in /etc/anacrontab, there is nothing
> in /etc/crontab, there is nothing but comments in all files in /etc/cron.d,
> there is nothing in /var/spool/cron, there is nothing in /etc/sysconfig/cron.
> Running "strings" on crond doesn't reveal any other path names.
> 
> Why then is cron running and /var/log/cron recording cron jobs that execute
> from the /etc/cron.daily directory, etc?
> 
> Where the devil has cron configuration been hidden now? Why doesn't the man
> page for cron or anacron mention it? What is going on?

If you did a fresh install as of late, the /etc/anacrontab does have the
settings for cron to run.

If you been doing rawhide upgrades, then I *think* it started with
anacrontab, moved to another files (starts with r maybe?) and now back
to anacrontab.  Least I think that is what happened.



-- 
Mike Chambers
Madisonville, KY

"Best lil town on Earth!"



From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed Oct 28 01:18:15 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:18:15 +0000
Subject: PolicyKit.conf is now???
Message-ID: <102820090118.6490.4AE79BD7000780590000195A22218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>

In fedora 11 someone posted this wondrous tidbit of wisdom which made my
life much simpler:

edit /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf

Add this stuff inside the config tag:


   
      
   


That says the answer to any policykit question about what root can
do is "yes dammit!"

There is no such file in fedora 12, and no policykit files I look
at even appear to use xml anymore.

Anyone know how to teach policykit that root is by God root (or know
if that is finally the sane default now)?



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 01:22:35 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:22:35 -0700
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1256692955.2314.594.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 21:03 -0400, Richard Ryniker wrote:
> No joy when I plugged a Bose Corporation Companion 5 USB sound system

Here is your bug. You are using a Bose product. Please refrain from
this. :)

Okay, okay, audio snobbery aside...

> into an up-to-date (27Oct2009) Rawhide machine.  Perhaps there are
> essential pieces missing because this was a Live system installed to
> disk, not a full F12 installation from DVD.  This sound system works when
> connected to a Fedora 11 machine, although I feel it is definitely less
> stable recently than early in the life of F11.
> 
> Can someone say they have this type of USB audio output working with F12,
> and thus suggest it is an installation/configuration issue instead of
> something actually broken?
> 
> /var/log/messages has this to say (full log is at http://ryniker.ods.org/errors/eee_log2):
> 
> Oct 27 20:50:07 eee kernel: usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=05a7, idProduct=1020
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: Product: Bose USB Audio
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: Manufacturer: Bose Corporation
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: generic-usb 0003:05A7:1020.0001: hiddev96,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device [Bose Corporation Bose USB Audio] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2/input2
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 2:1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-udev-detect.c: Tried to configure /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/sound/card1 (alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00) more often than 5 times in 10s
> Oct 27 20:50:11 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-udev-detect.c: Failed to open /proc/asound/card1: No such file or directory
> Oct 27 20:50:11 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-udev-detect.c: Tried to configure /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/sound/card1 (alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00) more often than 5 times in 10s
> Oct 27 20:50:11 eee kernel: usb 3-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
> Oct 27 20:50:11 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 2:1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1
> Oct 27 20:50:11 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:11 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-udev-detect.c: Tried to configure /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/sound/card1 (alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00) more often than 5 times in 10s

It looks like there's something weird about this hardware (oh, wow, I AM
surprised) that's causing PA to barf. Viz:

Oct 27 20:50:11 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 2:1:1:
cannot get freq at ep 0x1

that's very likely what results in PA having trouble.

I don't think it's a configuration problem. Can you post the output of
'alsa-info.sh --no-upload' ? Thanks.

You're probably going to wind up reporting an ALSA/kernel bug for this,
just so you know.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From ryniker at alum.mit.edu  Wed Oct 28 01:55:41 2009
From: ryniker at alum.mit.edu (Richard Ryniker)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:55:41 -0400
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
In-Reply-To: <1256692955.2314.594.camel@adam.local.net> (awilliam@redhat.com)
References: 
	<1256692955.2314.594.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: 

>I don't think it's a configuration problem. Can you post the output of
>'alsa-info.sh --no-upload' ? Thanks.

Gladly...

upload=true&script=true&cardinfo=
!!################################
!!ALSA Information Script v 0.4.58
!!################################

!!Script ran on: Wed Oct 28 01:52:07 UTC 2009


!!Linux Distribution
!!------------------

Fedora release 11.92 (Rawhide) Fedora release 11.92 (Rawhide) Fedora release 11.92 (Rawhide) Fedora release 11.92 (Rawhide)


!!DMI Information
!!---------------

Manufacturer:      ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Product Name:      701


!!Kernel Information
!!------------------

Kernel release:    2.6.31.5-96.fc12.i686
Operating System:  GNU/Linux
Architecture:      i686
Processor:         i686
SMP Enabled:       Yes


!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version:     1.0.20
Library version:    
Utilities version:  1.0.21


!!Loaded ALSA modules
!!-------------------

snd_hda_intel
snd_usb_audio


!!Sound Servers on this system
!!----------------------------

Pulseaudio:
      Installed - Yes (/usr/bin/pulseaudio)
      Running - Yes

Jack:
      Installed - Yes (/usr/bin/jackd)
      Running - No


!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
!!-----------------------------

 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
                      HDA Intel at 0xf7eb8000 irq 16
 1 [Audio          ]: USB-Audio - Bose USB Audio
                      Bose Corporation Bose USB Audio at usb-0000:00:1d.1-2, full speed


!!PCI Soundcards installed in the system
!!--------------------------------------

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)


!!Advanced information - PCI Vendor/Device/Susbsystem ID's
!!--------------------------------------------------------

00:1b.0 0403: 8086:2668 (rev 04)
	Subsystem: 1043:82a1


!!Loaded sound module options
!!--------------------------

!!Module: snd_hda_intel
	bdl_pos_adj : 1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	enable : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
	enable_msi : 0
	id : ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
	index : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	model : ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
	position_fix : 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
	power_save : 5
	power_save_controller : Y
	probe_mask : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	probe_only : N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N
	single_cmd : N

!!Module: snd_usb_audio
	async_unlink : Y
	device_setup : 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
	enable : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
	id : ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
	ignore_ctl_error : N
	index : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	nrpacks : 8
	pid : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	vid : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1


!!HDA-Intel Codec information
!!---------------------------
--startcollapse--

Codec: Realtek ALC662 rev1
Address: 0
Function Id: 0x1
Vendor Id: 0x10ec0662
Subsystem Id: 0x104382a1
Revision Id: 0x100101
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
GPIO: io=2, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=1, wake=0
  IO[0]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
  IO[1]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x40 0x40]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x40 0x40]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x04 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x40 0x40]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x05 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x06 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x211: Stereo Digital
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  Digital:
  Digital category: 0x0
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x07 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x08 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10011b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x09, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x89 0x89]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  SDI-Select: 0
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0x6]: 16 20
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Connection: 1
     0x23
Node 0x09 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10011b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x09, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x11 0x11]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  SDI-Select: 0
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0x6]: 16 20
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Connection: 1
     0x22
Node 0x0a [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x0b [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
  Connection: 9
     0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16
Node 0x0c [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00]
  Connection: 2
     0x02 0x0b
Node 0x0d [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00]
  Connection: 2
     0x03 0x0b
Node 0x0e [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00]
  Connection: 2
     0x04 0x0b
Node 0x0f [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x10 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x11 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x12 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x13 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x14 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x0001003c: IN OUT HP EAPD Detect
  EAPD 0x2: EAPD
  Pin Default 0x99130110: [Fixed] Speaker at Int ATAPI
    Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown
    DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 1
     0x0c
Node 0x15 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x00010034: IN OUT EAPD Detect
  EAPD 0x2: EAPD
  Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 1
     0x0d
Node 0x16 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x00000034: IN OUT Detect
  Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 1
     0x0e
Node 0x17 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x18 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x80 0x80]
  Pincap 0x00001734: IN OUT Detect
    Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80
  Pin Default 0x01a19820: [Jack] Mic at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink
    DefAssociation = 0x2, Sequence = 0x0
  Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN VREF_80
  Unsolicited: tag=08, enabled=1
  Connection: 1
     0x0e
Node 0x19 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x80 0x80]
  Pincap 0x0000173c: IN OUT HP Detect
    Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80
  Pin Default 0x99a3092f: [Fixed] Mic at Int ATAPI
    Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown
    DefAssociation = 0x2, Sequence = 0xf
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN VREF_80
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 2
     0x0c* 0x0e
Node 0x1a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x80 0x80]
  Pincap 0x00000034: IN OUT Detect
  Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 1
     0x0d
Node 0x1b [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x0000173c: IN OUT HP Detect
    Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80
  Pin Default 0x0121401f: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Green
    DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0xf
  Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP VREF_HIZ
  Unsolicited: tag=04, enabled=1
  Connection: 2
     0x0c* 0x0e
Node 0x1c [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400001: Stereo
  Pincap 0x00000020: IN
  Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
Node 0x1d [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400000: Mono
  Pincap 0x00000020: IN
  Pin Default 0x40148a05: [N/A] Speaker at Ext N/A
    Conn = RCA, Color = Purple
    DefAssociation = 0x0, Sequence = 0x5
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
Node 0x1e [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400300: Mono Digital
  Pincap 0x00000010: OUT
  Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x06
Node 0x1f [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x20 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00040: Mono
  Processing caps: benign=0, ncoeff=12
  Processing Coefficient: 0x00
  Coefficient Index: 0x06
Node 0x21 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x22 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x80 0x80] [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
  Connection: 10
     0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x0b
Node 0x23 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x80 0x80] [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
  Connection: 10
     0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x0b
Node 0x24 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x25 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x26 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
--endcollapse--


!!ALSA Device nodes
!!-----------------

crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 7 Oct 27 20:48 /dev/snd/controlC0
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 9 Oct 27 20:50 /dev/snd/controlC1
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 6 Oct 27 20:48 /dev/snd/hwC0D0
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 5 Oct 27 21:02 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 4 Oct 27 21:02 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 8 Oct 27 20:50 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 3 Oct 27 20:48 /dev/snd/seq
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 2 Oct 27 20:48 /dev/snd/timer

/dev/snd/by-id:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root  60 Oct 27 20:50 .
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 240 Oct 27 20:50 ..
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root  12 Oct 27 20:50 usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00 -> ../controlC1

/dev/snd/by-path:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root  80 Oct 27 20:50 .
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root 240 Oct 27 20:50 ..
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root  12 Oct 27 20:48 pci-0000:00:1b.0 -> ../controlC0
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root  12 Oct 27 20:50 pci-0000:00:1d.1-usb-0:2:1.0 -> ../controlC1


!!ALSA configuration files
!!------------------------

!!System wide config file (/etc/asound.conf)

#
# Place your global alsa-lib configuration here...
#

@hooks [
	{
		func load
		files [
			"/etc/alsa/pulse-default.conf"
		]
		errors false
	}
]


!!Aplay/Arecord output
!!------------

APLAY

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Audio [Bose USB Audio], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

ARECORD

**** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

!!Amixer output
!!-------------

!!-------Mixer controls for card 0 [Intel]

Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf7eb8000 irq 16'
  Mixer name	: 'Realtek ALC662 rev1'
  Components	: 'HDA:10ec0662,104382a1,00100101'
  Controls      : 14
  Simple ctrls  : 9
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 64
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 64 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 64 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
  Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Beep',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 31
  Front Left: Capture 17 [55%] [12.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Capture 17 [55%] [12.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0
  Capabilities: cenum
  Items: 'i-Mic' 'e-Mic'
  Item0: 'i-Mic'
Simple mixer control 'e-Mic',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'e-Mic Boost',0
  Capabilities: volume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 3
  Front Left: 0 [0%]
  Front Right: 0 [0%]
Simple mixer control 'i-Mic',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'i-Mic Boost',0
  Capabilities: volume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 3
  Front Left: 0 [0%]
  Front Right: 0 [0%]

!!-------Mixer controls for card 1 [Audio]

Card hw:1 'Audio'/'Bose Corporation Bose USB Audio at usb-0000:00:1d.1-2, full speed'
  Mixer name	: 'USB Mixer'
  Components	: 'USB05a7:1020'
  Controls      : 2
  Simple ctrls  : 1
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 101
  Mono: Playback 85 [84%] [-20.04dB] [on]


!!Alsactl output
!!-------------

--startcollapse--
state.Intel {
	control.1 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 64'
		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Master Playback Volume'
		value.0 64
		value.1 64
	}
	control.2 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Master Playback Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.3 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 3'
		comment.dbmin 0
		comment.dbmax 3000
		iface MIXER
		name 'e-Mic Boost'
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
	}
	control.4 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 31'
		comment.dbmin -3450
		comment.dbmax 1200
		iface MIXER
		name 'e-Mic Playback Volume'
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
	}
	control.5 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'e-Mic Playback Switch'
		value.0 false
		value.1 false
	}
	control.6 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 3'
		comment.dbmin 0
		comment.dbmax 3000
		iface MIXER
		name 'i-Mic Boost'
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
	}
	control.7 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 31'
		comment.dbmin -3450
		comment.dbmax 1200
		iface MIXER
		name 'i-Mic Playback Volume'
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
	}
	control.8 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'i-Mic Playback Switch'
		value.0 false
		value.1 false
	}
	control.9 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Capture Switch'
		value.0 true
		value.1 true
	}
	control.10 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 31'
		comment.dbmin -1350
		comment.dbmax 3300
		iface MIXER
		name 'Capture Volume'
		value.0 17
		value.1 17
	}
	control.11 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type ENUMERATED
		comment.count 1
		comment.item.0 i-Mic
		comment.item.1 e-Mic
		iface MIXER
		name 'Input Source'
		value i-Mic
	}
	control.12 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 31'
		comment.dbmin -3450
		comment.dbmax 1200
		iface MIXER
		name 'Beep Playback Volume'
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
	}
	control.13 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Beep Playback Switch'
		value.0 false
		value.1 false
	}
	control.14 {
		comment.access 'read write user'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 255'
		comment.tlv '0000000100000008ffffec1400000014'
		comment.dbmin -5100
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'PCM Playback Volume'
		value.0 255
		value.1 255
	}
}
state.Audio {
	control.1 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'PCM Playback Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.2 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 1
		comment.range '0 - 101'
		comment.dbmin -12799
		comment.dbmax 28
		iface MIXER
		name 'PCM Playback Volume'
		value 85
	}
}
--endcollapse--


!!All Loaded Modules
!!------------------

Module
nfs
fscache
snd_usb_audio
snd_usb_lib
snd_rawmidi
fuse
nfsd
lockd
nfs_acl
auth_rpcgss
exportfs
sunrpc
ipv6
p4_clockmod
dm_multipath
uinput
arc4
snd_hda_codec_realtek
ecb
snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec
snd_hwdep
snd_seq
p54usb
p54common
snd_seq_device
snd_pcm
ath5k
mac80211
snd_timer
iTCO_wdt
ath
iTCO_vendor_support
joydev
snd
i2c_i801
soundcore
snd_page_alloc
cfg80211
atl2
eeepc_laptop
hwmon
rfkill
i915
drm_kms_helper
usb_storage
drm
i2c_algo_bit
i2c_core
video
output


!!Sysfs Files
!!-----------

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/init_pin_configs:
0x14 0x99130110
0x15 0x411111f0
0x16 0x411111f0
0x18 0x01a19820
0x19 0x99a3092f
0x1a 0x411111f0
0x1b 0x0121401f
0x1c 0x411111f0
0x1d 0x40148a05
0x1e 0x411111f0

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/driver_pin_configs:

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/user_pin_configs:

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/init_verbs:


!!ALSA/HDA dmesg
!!------------------

	(5735000 KHz - 5835000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm)
HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64
ath: EEPROM regdomain: 0x60
--
ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2425 chip found (MAC: 0xe2, PHY: 0x70)
input: HDA Digital PCBeep as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/input/input9
cfg80211: Calling CRDA for country: US
--
generic-usb 0003:05A7:1020.0001: hiddev96,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device [Bose Corporation Bose USB Audio] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2/input2
ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 2:1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1
usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
usb 3-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 2:1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1
Slow work thread pool: Starting up




From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Oct 28 01:56:50 2009
From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:56:50 -0600
Subject: Fedora 12 beta issues
Message-ID: <4AE7A4E2.5020702@yahoo.co.uk>

Hi,

I installed and tested F12 beta (and later updated to rawhide).


Hardware:
-----------------------------------------------------
http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_879d3528-7516-4c8f-95eb-740c4361cf6a

# lspci -v
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV730XT [Radeon 
HD 4670] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
         Subsystem: Hightech Information System Ltd. Device 2003 

...

Two displays connected:
a) CRT, recognized as 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz (left) (recognized as 1280x1024 
@ 85 Hz, which is OK)
b) LCD, recognized as 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz (right)
-----------------------------------------------------

Issues I found:


1. Install log shows the following issues (or potential issues):

Installing fontpackages-filesystem-1.27-1.fc12.noarch
warning: fontpackages-filesystem-1.27-1.fc12.noarch: Header V3 
RSA/SHA256 signature: NOKEY, key ID 57bbccba
...
Installing qemu-system-x86-0.11.0-6.fc12.i686
warning: %post(qemu-system-x86-2:0.11.0-6.fc12.i686) scriptlet failed, 
exit status 1
...
Installing kernel-PAE-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686
W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko


2. Dailymotion videos are terribly slow -- look like a slideshow (2fps?)
Whole system slows down to a crawl when playing video (HTML5 tag, not 
flash), even typing in terminal feels like '97 over ssh.


top - 08:52:18 up  9:29,  4 users,  load average: 0.29, 0.20, 0.24
Tasks: 188 total,   2 running, 186 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu0  : 55.3%us,  1.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 43.3%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
0.0%st
Cpu1  :  2.7%us,  0.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 96.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
0.0%st
Cpu2  : 33.0%us,  0.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 66.3%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
0.0%st
Cpu3  : 11.5%us,  1.4%sy,  0.0%ni, 87.1%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
0.0%st
Mem:   8263400k total,  3142540k used,  5120860k free,   300608k buffers
Swap:  8409988k total,        0k used,  8409988k free,  2194328k cached

   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
  1519 root      20   0  126m  63m 6012 R 99.4  0.8  10:02.00 Xorg
  1981 thufor    20   0  607m 127m  24m S  6.0  1.6   1:40.89 firefox
  2008 thufor     9 -11  184m 5024 3996 S  0.7  0.1   0:02.80 pulseaudio
  1884 thufor    20   0  116m  23m  14m S  0.3  0.3   0:04.33 konsole
...




3. Anaconda/First boot -- sees the screen size as if it was total of two 
displays but uses only one of them (b -- see hardware above), hence the 
some information and buttons are invisible (displayed off screen). I can 
provide photos of what it looks like.


4. KDE: Display settings: change display resolution works incorrectly -- 
can?t move screen position vs. the other screen. I changed screen (a) 
from 1280x1024 -> 1600x1200 and got screen overlap -- whatever is 
displayed in the middle, is showing up "partial clone" on both screens.


5. KDE: Colors are all over the place -- parts of UI change colors as 
they please: to purple, green, blue, black, etc. without reason. Random 
"destruction" patterns show up on UI elements.


6. KDE: Lancelot -> Switch user gives an error: "Lancelot can not find 
your display manager. This mean that it not able to retrieve the list of 
currently running sessions, or start a new one." (there is also missing 
"is" in this error message: "that it [is] not able"). Note: I see the 
same in Fedora 11.


7. KDE: kpackagekit can?t import repo keys, even after entering root 
password.


8. glxgears works but with horizontal lines of random rubbish. I havent 
tried mesa-dri-drivers-experimental yet...


9. Pulseaudio generally works -- I'm happy that digital optical out 
works! Pavucontrol (not installed by default?) crashes when I choose 
"Pulseaudio server" in KDE multimedia settings.


Should I BZ any of the above?

-- 
thufor







From lili at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 02:47:21 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:47:21 +0800
Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora12 Pre-RC install testing
Message-ID: <4AE7B0B9.10404@redhat.com>

Hello,

      Install testing again :),from Oct 28- Nov 04,we are doing Pre-RC 
install testing.Testers,could you help test and post your test results? 
 From Nov 04 - Nov 11,we will run RC install testing which is the last 
install testing before GA. In order to make sure there are no big issues 
which will affect the RC testing and GA release, we will run this Pre-RC 
install testing from today to Nov 4.It's just a small test,so without 
physical ISO media for testing,testers have to execute cases on 
rawhide.For guidance on downloading and installing rawhide, see [1].

      We have made a few changes to the test cases based on several of 
the bugs uncovered by previous test runs and created a test matrix for 
this test:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_Pre-RC_Install

    If get some defects during testing,please refer to bug reporting 
guidance[2], any question,get help from:
   * IRC: #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net
   * Mailing list: fedora-test-list
   * Reference of ways to communicate at:
     https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate

  [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide#Direct_Rawhide_install
  [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests

Thanks
Liam



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 03:01:58 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:01:58 -0700
Subject: Fedora Server distro???
Message-ID: 

Greetings All:

I have been around redhat and fedora project for a very long time, but I am
asking the question that I probably already have the answer!

With all of the bleeding edge, and my love for it, is there a server distro
out there?  I am looking for the help from the rest of you that have more
knowledge than I do!

I appreciate any help that you can give to me in this regard...

Sincerely yours,
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From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Wed Oct 28 03:14:47 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:14:47 -0400
Subject: Fedora Server distro???
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20091028031447.GA45664@mail.scottro.net>

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:01:58PM -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
> Greetings All:
> 
> I have been around redhat and fedora project for a very long time, but I am
> asking the question that I probably already have the answer!
> 
> With all of the bleeding edge, and my love for it, is there a server distro out
> there??  I am looking for the help from the rest of you that have more
> knowledge than I do!

I am assuming you are well aware of RH (paid) and CentOS (free).  

Recently on the forums, someone mentioned they're running a legacy F2 or
something like that--we still have a few F4 boxes, and actually, they
run rather nicely.  We're also very careful of how they're protected. 

If you mean something in between Fedora's bleeding edge and short
lifetime but newer than a 2.6.18 kernel....

Well, I'd be curious to know about it too. I'm surprised no one's
created one.  The best compromise that I've seen (at least in theory,
not having used it), is Ubuntu's LTS (Long Term Support) offering--it's
newer, and Debian based things tend to (again, this is all theory) be
easier to upgrade than RH based ones.  (Though, again, thanks to the
hard work of many, Fedora seems to be getting better and better at
that.)

One can, with some work, get CentOS to work relatively well as a
desktop--I'm sort of writing this from there (actually ssh-ing into a
BSD box, but from my CentOS workstation-cum-desktop-cum-server.)

My very general, uninformed, subjective impression from Fedora forums is
that such a beast would be welcomed.  

> 
> I appreciate any help that you can give to me in this regard...

I don't know if this was any help at all, but the good thing about
posting something vague like it, is that it will inspire someone who
knows better to jump in and correct me.  :)

http://xkcd.com/386/


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From dennisml at conversis.de  Wed Oct 28 03:34:23 2009
From: dennisml at conversis.de (Dennis J.)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:34:23 +0100
Subject: Xorg memory leak?
Message-ID: <4AE7BBBF.70404@conversis.de>

Hi
for about a week or so I'm seeing the xserver consuming rather large 
amounts of memory on my F11 system. Right now top shows it using 1.4g 
resident memory (1.8g virtual). Usually the pixmap use of Firefox is the 
main culprit in such cases but even after quitting I end up with the above 
memory usage. Xrestop shows a usage total of merely 30MB.
Is there a way to find out what this memory is used for? Right now I have 
to log out and back in again in order to get my memory back. Could this be 
a driver issue? I'm using the radeon driver with a 4850 card (r700).

Regards,
   Dennis



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 06:00:32 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:00:32 -0700
Subject: Fedora 12 beta issues
In-Reply-To: <4AE7A4E2.5020702@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <4AE7A4E2.5020702@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1256709632.2314.598.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 19:56 -0600, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote:

> 2. Dailymotion videos are terribly slow -- look like a slideshow (2fps?)
> Whole system slows down to a crawl when playing video (HTML5 tag, not 
> flash), even typing in terminal feels like '97 over ssh.
> 
> 
> top - 08:52:18 up  9:29,  4 users,  load average: 0.29, 0.20, 0.24
> Tasks: 188 total,   2 running, 186 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
> Cpu0  : 55.3%us,  1.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 43.3%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
> 0.0%st
> Cpu1  :  2.7%us,  0.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 96.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
> 0.0%st
> Cpu2  : 33.0%us,  0.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 66.3%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
> 0.0%st
> Cpu3  : 11.5%us,  1.4%sy,  0.0%ni, 87.1%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
> 0.0%st
> Mem:   8263400k total,  3142540k used,  5120860k free,   300608k buffers
> Swap:  8409988k total,        0k used,  8409988k free,  2194328k cached
> 
>    PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
>   1519 root      20   0  126m  63m 6012 R 99.4  0.8  10:02.00 Xorg
>   1981 thufor    20   0  607m 127m  24m S  6.0  1.6   1:40.89 firefox
>   2008 thufor     9 -11  184m 5024 3996 S  0.7  0.1   0:02.80 pulseaudio
>   1884 thufor    20   0  116m  23m  14m S  0.3  0.3   0:04.33 konsole
> ...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 3. Anaconda/First boot -- sees the screen size as if it was total of two 
> displays but uses only one of them (b -- see hardware above), hence the 
> some information and buttons are invisible (displayed off screen). I can 
> provide photos of what it looks like.
> 
> 
> 4. KDE: Display settings: change display resolution works incorrectly -- 
> can?t move screen position vs. the other screen. I changed screen (a) 
> from 1280x1024 -> 1600x1200 and got screen overlap -- whatever is 
> displayed in the middle, is showing up "partial clone" on both screens.
> 
> 
> 5. KDE: Colors are all over the place -- parts of UI change colors as 
> they please: to purple, green, blue, black, etc. without reason. Random 
> "destruction" patterns show up on UI elements.

For all of the above, can you try a) updating to kernel 96 or 97 from
Rawhide or Koji, and b) booting with nomodeset parameter, and see how
those affect them?

> 8. glxgears works but with horizontal lines of random rubbish. I havent 
> tried mesa-dri-drivers-experimental yet...

Without mesa-dri-drivers-experimental you're not getting any hardware
3D. But it's not expected to work great on r700 yet anyway.

> 9. Pulseaudio generally works -- I'm happy that digital optical out 
> works! Pavucontrol (not installed by default?) crashes when I choose 
> "Pulseaudio server" in KDE multimedia settings.

Don't know about KDE, but pavucontrol is no longer installed by default
because gnome-volume-control should cover what's needed. KDE still
doesn't have a real great PA mixer AFAIK.

-- 
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From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Wed Oct 28 06:41:38 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:41:38 +0200
Subject: Bug zapper priorities [was Re: theora screencasting not working in
 F12]
In-Reply-To: <1256690201.2314.591.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <2068886238.239631256643507351.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>	<1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>		<1256660790.2447.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4AE739D5.6090300@hi.is>	<1256672546.2447.65.camel@localhost.localdomain>	
	<1256690201.2314.591.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AE7E7A2.7060404@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> Unfortunately we don't have enough manpower in the Bugzappers group yet
> to ensure all bugs get looked at. At present we only try to guarantee
> coverage for a range of core components, which doesn't yet include
> libtheora.
>
> This is of course a way of implying that we need more Bugzappers =) If
> we had enough, we could try to provide triage coverage for all reported
> bugs. Which would lead to this sort of thing getting handled better,
> most likely.
>
>   
If you have some control over what gets attention I suggest that you add 
gparted and company to your list. Not that it is heavily used, but it is 
used in the installer and mistakes can be a disaster. I had a problem in 
expanding an ntfs partition. No one got back to me for more information 
for one month. In the meantime I solved my problem another way (I needed 
a working machine) and don't have the information requested. The bug was 
closed as not enough info. A more timely request for info would have 
helped the Fedora project.



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 06:43:56 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:43:56 -0700
Subject: Fedora Server distro?
Message-ID: 

Dear Scott Robbins:

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:01:58PM -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
> Greetings All:
>
> I have been around redhat and fedora project for a very long time, but I
am
> asking the question that I probably already have the answer!
>
> With all of the bleeding edge, and my love for it, is there a server
distro out
> there??  I am looking for the help from the rest of you that have more
> knowledge than I do!

I am assuming you are well aware of RH (paid) and CentOS (free).

Yes, but I never have played around with CentOS yet...  I saw that you were
able to create a server out of yours, but do you know if there is a CentOS
Server distro or would you be willing to write up a howto on how you did it?


Recently on the forums, someone mentioned they're running a legacy F2 or
something like that--we still have a few F4 boxes, and actually, they
run rather nicely.  We're also very careful of how they're protected.

You said something about protecting them, in regards to what?


If you mean something in between Fedora's bleeding edge and short
lifetime but newer than a 2.6.18 kernel....

I know that some people would think and have said that I am crazy for using
bleeding edge, but I do love it.  I may not be able to have the latest and
greatest in computers, but I can play around with the latest and greatest
software versions out there...


Well, I'd be curious to know about it too. I'm surprised no one's
created one.  The best compromise that I've seen (at least in theory,
not having used it), is Ubuntu's LTS (Long Term Support) offering--it's
newer, and Debian based things tend to (again, this is all theory) be
easier to upgrade than RH based ones.  (Though, again, thanks to the
hard work of many, Fedora seems to be getting better and better at
that.)

I am totally surprised that no one has created a bleeding edge Fedora Server
distro either!  I would love to see one for sure...


One can, with some work, get CentOS to work relatively well as a
desktop--I'm sort of writing this from there (actually ssh-ing into a
BSD box, but from my CentOS workstation-cum-desktop-cum-
server.)

Would you be willing to write a howto off from the work that you have done
in getting CentOS to work as a server for you?  I do not know enough about
it to make it work.  There is a guideline of creating a Fedora Server on
http://www.brennan.id.au, but it is so out of date now....



My very general, uninformed, subjective impression from Fedora forums is
that such a beast would be welcomed.

>
> I appreciate any help that you can give to me in this regard...

I don't know if this was any help at all, but the good thing about
posting something vague like it, is that it will inspire someone who
knows better to jump in and correct me.  :)

Sincerely yours,
Rob G. Healey


http://xkcd.com/386/


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From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 06:55:48 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:55:48 -0700
Subject: Bug zapper priorities [was Re: theora screencasting not
 working in F12]
In-Reply-To: <4AE7E7A2.7060404@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <2068886238.239631256643507351.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	
	<1256660790.2447.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4AE739D5.6090300@hi.is>
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	<4AE7E7A2.7060404@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <1256712948.2314.599.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 08:41 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Unfortunately we don't have enough manpower in the Bugzappers group yet
> > to ensure all bugs get looked at. At present we only try to guarantee
> > coverage for a range of core components, which doesn't yet include
> > libtheora.
> >
> > This is of course a way of implying that we need more Bugzappers =) If
> > we had enough, we could try to provide triage coverage for all reported
> > bugs. Which would lead to this sort of thing getting handled better,
> > most likely.
> >   
> If you have some control over what gets attention I suggest that you add 
> gparted and company to your list. Not that it is heavily used, but it is 
> used in the installer and mistakes can be a disaster. I had a problem in 
> expanding an ntfs partition. No one got back to me for more information 
> for one month. In the meantime I solved my problem another way (I needed 
> a working machine) and don't have the information requested. The bug was 
> closed as not enough info. A more timely request for info would have 
> helped the Fedora project.

The installer itself is on the list. If anaconda really does run the
packaged version of gparted - or use libparted, I guess - then it should
be added to the list, yeah. I'll check with the anaconda team, thanks.

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From tom.mannerhagen at glocalnet.net  Wed Oct 28 07:35:26 2009
From: tom.mannerhagen at glocalnet.net (Tom Mannerhagen)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:35:26 +0100
Subject: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
Message-ID: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>

Hi

At every start the system defaults to US keyboard layout in spite of
always being removed from the list of layouts.
I found that the login screen shows me a list of USA and Swedish
keyboard, and always defaults to USA.
Defaulting US layout seems to be a new 'feature' since some updates ago,
because I can not remember I had this behavior earlier.

The installed system is based on the earliest F12 alpha release that was
made available as an ISO, always in phase with the rawhide updates.


h?lsningar / regards

Tom Mannerhagen

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From Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 07:42:12 2009
From: Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com (=?utf-8?Q?Pablo_Iranzo_G=C3=B3mez?=)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:42:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
In-Reply-To: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
Message-ID: <1688468393.246461256715732449.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

Hi 

----- "Tom Mannerhagen"  escribi?: 
> Hi 
> 
> At every start the system defaults to US keyboard layout in spite of always being removed from the list of layouts. 
> I found that the login screen shows me a list of USA and Swedish keyboard, and always defaults to USA. 
> Defaulting US layout seems to be a new 'feature' since some updates ago, because I can not remember I had this behavior earlier. 
> 
> The installed system is based on the earliest F12 alpha release that was made available as an ISO, always in phase with the rawhide updates. 

The same happened to my systems, and no, it's a recent 'feature' :) 


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From birger at birger.sh  Wed Oct 28 07:47:48 2009
From: birger at birger.sh (birger)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:47:48 +0100
Subject: SV: Fedora Server distro???
Message-ID: 

I am typing this on my cell phone so please forgive any artifacts.

Centos is a server distro, and being a recompile of rhel it is a good one. Using fedora for servers means upgrading them more often than you may want.

Look at the centos 3rd party repo that offers fedora packages compiled for centos. Maybe a perfect setup?

Building fedora source rpms on centos is usually not very hard either.

-- oppr. melding --
Emne: Fedora Server distro???
Fra: Rob Healey 
Dato: 28.10.2009 04:02

Greetings All:

I have been around redhat and fedora project for a very long time, but I am
asking the question that I probably already have the answer!

With all of the bleeding edge, and my love for it, is there a server distro
out there?  I am looking for the help from the rest of you that have more
knowledge than I do!

I appreciate any help that you can give to me in this regard...

Sincerely yours,
Rob G. Healey

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From birger at birger.sh  Wed Oct 28 07:54:09 2009
From: birger at birger.sh (Birger Wathne)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:54:09 +0100
Subject: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
In-Reply-To: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
References: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
Message-ID: <1256716449.4ae7f8a16d4bf@secure.prioris.net>

Sitat Tom Mannerhagen :

> Hi
> 
> At every start the system defaults to US keyboard layout in spite of
> always being removed from the list of layouts.
> I found that the login screen shows me a list of USA and Swedish
> keyboard, and always defaults to USA.
> Defaulting US layout seems to be a new 'feature' since some updates ago,
> because I can not remember I had this behavior earlier.
> 
> The installed system is based on the earliest F12 alpha release that was
> made available as an ISO, always in phase with the rawhide updates.
> 
> 
> h??lsningar / regards
> 
> Tom Mannerhagen
> 
> 


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530452

According to this it should be fixed in the latest gdm. I'll reinstall a
system from scratch to see if that is true...

-- 
birger



From vpivaini at cs.helsinki.fi  Wed Oct 28 08:34:40 2009
From: vpivaini at cs.helsinki.fi (Ville-Pekka Vainio)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:34:40 +0200
Subject: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
In-Reply-To: <1256716449.4ae7f8a16d4bf@secure.prioris.net>
References: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
	<1256716449.4ae7f8a16d4bf@secure.prioris.net>
Message-ID: <1256718880.1905.4.camel@poytakone.lan>

ke, 2009-10-28 kello 08:54 +0100, Birger Wathne kirjoitti:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530452
> 
> According to this it should be fixed in the latest gdm. I'll reinstall a
> system from scratch to see if that is true...

The new gdm packages probably haven't made it into Rawhide mirrors just
yet. You could try downloading and installing a newer gdm package from
Koji, .
You don't need to install from scratch to get the gdm fixes.


-- 
Ville-Pekka Vainio



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 08:37:28 2009
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:37:28 +0000
Subject: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
In-Reply-To: <1256718880.1905.4.camel@poytakone.lan>
References: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
	<1256716449.4ae7f8a16d4bf@secure.prioris.net>
	<1256718880.1905.4.camel@poytakone.lan>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0910280137r59d2e5b6r7e9623ec92757d5e@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Ville-Pekka Vainio
 wrote:
> ke, 2009-10-28 kello 08:54 +0100, Birger Wathne kirjoitti:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530452
>>
>> According to this it should be fixed in the latest gdm. I'll reinstall a
>> system from scratch to see if that is true...
>
> The new gdm packages probably haven't made it into Rawhide mirrors just
> yet. You could try downloading and installing a newer gdm package from
> Koji, .
> You don't need to install from scratch to get the gdm fixes.

It was tagged into F-12 Final yesterday so it should arrive in todays
rawhide push.

Peter



From christoph.frieben at googlemail.com  Wed Oct 28 09:00:46 2009
From: christoph.frieben at googlemail.com (Christoph Frieben)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:00:46 +0100
Subject: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
In-Reply-To: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
References: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
Message-ID: 

2009/10/28 Tom Mannerhagen
>
> Hi
>
> At every start the system defaults to US keyboard layout in spite of always being removed from the list of layouts.
> I found that the login screen shows me a list of USA and Swedish keyboard, and always defaults to USA.
> Defaulting US layout seems to be a new 'feature' since some updates ago, because I can not remember I had this behavior earlier.
>
> The installed system is based on the earliest F12 alpha release that was made available as an ISO, always in phase with the rawhide updates.
>
>
> h?lsningar / regards
>
> Tom Mannerhagen

I have observed this issue after installing from the live CD when
automatic login had already begun before I had changed the keyboard
layout from US to the local one. After launching liveinst and choosing
the local scheme in the installer, GDM would still default to the US
scheme on the installed system. When the correct layout had been
chosen for the live session already, this issue did not occur. ~C



From tom.mannerhagen at glocalnet.net  Wed Oct 28 09:00:50 2009
From: tom.mannerhagen at glocalnet.net (Tom Mannerhagen)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:00:50 +0100
Subject: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0910280137r59d2e5b6r7e9623ec92757d5e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
	<1256716449.4ae7f8a16d4bf@secure.prioris.net>
	<1256718880.1905.4.camel@poytakone.lan>
	<5256d0b0910280137r59d2e5b6r7e9623ec92757d5e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256720450.1884.26.camel@R500>

Great!

Thanks for fast replies and sorry for not checking bugzilla!

h?lsningar / regards

Tom Mannerhagen

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Robinson 
Reply-to: For testers of Fedora Core development releases

To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases

Subject: Re: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:37:28 +0000


On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Ville-Pekka Vainio
 wrote:
> ke, 2009-10-28 kello 08:54 +0100, Birger Wathne kirjoitti:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530452
>>
>> According to this it should be fixed in the latest gdm. I'll reinstall a
>> system from scratch to see if that is true...
>
> The new gdm packages probably haven't made it into Rawhide mirrors just
> yet. You could try downloading and installing a newer gdm package from
> Koji, .
> You don't need to install from scratch to get the gdm fixes.

It was tagged into F-12 Final yesterday so it should arrive in todays
rawhide push.

Peter

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From: josep.puigdemont at gmail.com (Josep Puigdemont)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:13:46 +0100
Subject: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
	
Message-ID: 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Christoph Frieben
 wrote:
> 2009/10/28 Tom Mannerhagen
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> At every start the system defaults to US keyboard layout in spite of always being removed from the list of layouts.
>> I found that the login screen shows me a list of USA and Swedish keyboard, and always defaults to USA.
>> Defaulting US layout seems to be a new 'feature' since some updates ago, because I can not remember I had this behavior earlier.
>>
>> The installed system is based on the earliest F12 alpha release that was made available as an ISO, always in phase with the rawhide updates.
>>
>>
>> h?lsningar / regards
>>
>> Tom Mannerhagen
>
> I have observed this issue after installing from the live CD when
> automatic login had already begun before I had changed the keyboard
> layout from US to the local one. After launching liveinst and choosing
> the local scheme in the installer, GDM would still default to the US
> scheme on the installed system. When the correct layout had been
> chosen for the live session already, this issue did not occur. ~C

I don't think I've seen the same behavior, I did select the correct
keyboard layout after booting with the Live CD, and then installed the
Beta to the HD. When I rebooted firstboot popped up, added a new user.
When logged in as that user the keyboard was still defaulted to US
layout (I guess GDM was defaulted to that, I didn't pay attention).

IIRC, the first screen during installation from the LiveCD asked for
the keyboard layout, I would have expected GDM to default to that
layout after reboot.

I'll try again with the RC to be sure, though.

/Josep



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct 28 10:14:44 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:14:44 +0000
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4AE81994.9020508@hi.is>

On 10/28/2009 01:03 AM, Richard Ryniker wrote:
> No joy when I plugged a Bose Corporation Companion 5 USB sound system
> into an up-to-date (27Oct2009) Rawhide machine.  Perhaps there are
> essential pieces missing because this was a Live system installed to
> disk, not a full F12 installation from DVD.  This sound system works when
> connected to a Fedora 11 machine, although I feel it is definitely less
> stable recently than early in the life of F11.
>
> Can someone say they have this type of USB audio output working with F12,
> and thus suggest it is an installation/configuration issue instead of
> something actually broken?
>
> /var/log/messages has this to say (full log is at http://ryniker.ods.org/errors/eee_log2):
>
> Oct 27 20:50:07 eee kernel: usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=05a7, idProduct=1020
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: Product: Bose USB Audio
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: Manufacturer: Bose Corporation
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: generic-usb 0003:05A7:1020.0001: hiddev96,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device [Bose Corporation Bose USB Audio] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2/input2
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 2:1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:08 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:09 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-udev-detect.c: Tried to configure /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/sound/card1 (alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00) more often than 5 times in 10s
> Oct 27 20:50:11 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-udev-detect.c: Failed to open /proc/asound/card1: No such file or directory
> Oct 27 20:50:11 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-udev-detect.c: Tried to configure /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/sound/card1 (alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00) more often than 5 times in 10s
> Oct 27 20:50:11 eee kernel: usb 3-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
> Oct 27 20:50:11 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 2:1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1
> Oct 27 20:50:11 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:11 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
> Oct 27 20:50:12 eee pulseaudio[1451]: module-udev-detect.c: Tried to configure /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/sound/card1 (alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00) more often than 5 times in 10s
>
>   

First run alsamixer -c0 and check if something might be muted then you
can try to editing /etc/pulse/default.pa and comment out line 52 53 54
and 58
so it looks like this..

### Automatically load driver modules depending on the hardware available
#.ifexists module-udev-detect.so
#load-module module-udev-detect
#.else
### Alternatively use the static hardware detection module (for systems that
### lack udev support)
load-module module-detect
#.endif

Then run killall pulseaudio && pulseaudio and see if you get some sound
out of those bose speakers..

JBG

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From: rhe at redhat.com (He Rui)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:54:51 +0800
Subject: Fwd: [Test-Announce]  I18n Test Day Thursday 2009-10-29
Message-ID: <4AE822FB.6060802@redhat.com>


Greetings,

This week we will focus on I18N  , 
and the test day is coming up tomorrow:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-29

The idea of this test day is to test common usage in your desktop 
applications
in your native language, and identify any problems or weaknesses. The main
focused areas are:

     1. display of text in browser, open-office, etc
     2. input method: IBus
     3. printing
     4. localization

Therefore, testing the cases in many languages is highly welcomed and 
the test
cases are not limited at all. Just come to the test day, try your 
favorite language
and have fun! :-)

Don't forget to leave your precious results on the sites. See you there!


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From: rhe at redhat.com (He Rui)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:53:01 +0800
Subject: [Test-Announce]   I18n Test Day Thursday 2009-10-29
Message-ID: <4AE8228D.9080604@redhat.com>

Greetings,

This week we will focus on I18N  , 
and the test day is coming up tomorrow:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-29

The idea of this test day is to test common usage in your desktop 
applications
in your native language, and identify any problems or weaknesses. The main
focused areas are:

     1. display of text in browser, open-office, etc
     2. input method: IBus
     3. printing
     4. localization

Therefore, testing the cases in many languages is highly welcomed and 
the test
cases are not limited at all. Just come to the test day, try your 
favorite language
and have fun! :-)

Don't forget to leave your precious results on the sites. See you there!


-- 
  Contacts

  FAS name: Rhe
  IRC nick: Hurry(rhe)#fedora-qa
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 28 12:07:58 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:07:58 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091028 changes
Message-ID: <20091028120758.GA8872@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Wed Oct 28 06:15:09 UTC 2009

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	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



New package globus-gfork
        Globus Toolkit - GFork
New package kmagnet
        A simple puzzle game with a built-in puzzle editor
New package lam
        The Local Area Multicomputer programming environment
New package sblim-cmpi-dns
        SBLIM WBEM-SMT Dns
New package sblim-cmpi-params
        SBLIM params instrumentation
New package sblim-cmpi-samba
        SBLIM WBEM-SMT Samba
New package sblim-cmpi-syslog
        SBLIM syslog instrumentation
Removed package libgnomedb
Removed package tetex-bytefield
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Miro-2.5.2-5.fc12
-----------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jan Horak  - 2.5.2-5
- Rebuild against newer gecko


aqsis-1.6.0-3.fc12
------------------
* Mon Oct 19 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.6.0-3
- Minor updates to SPEC file by Leon Tony Atkinson - 

* Sat Oct 17 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.6.0-1
- Update to 1.6.0


asterisk-1.6.1.8-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.8-1
- Update to 1.6.1.8 to fix bug 531199:
-
- http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/security/AST-2009-007.html
-
- A missing ACL check for handling SIP INVITEs allows a device to make
- calls on networks intended to be prohibited as defined by the "deny"
- and "permit" lines in sip.conf. The ACL check for handling SIP
- registrations was not affected.


atlas-3.8.3-12.fc12
-------------------
* Sat Oct 24 2009 Deji Akingunola  - 3.8.3-12
- Use alternatives to workaround multilib conflicts (BZ#508565).

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Deji Akingunola  - 3.8.3-11
- Obsolete the -header subpackage properly.


binutils-2.19.51.0.14-34.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jan Kratochvil  2.19.51.0.14-34
- Fix rpm --excludedocs (BZ 515922).
- Fix spurious scriplet errors by `exit 0'. (BZ 517979, Nick Clifton)


blam-1.8.5-19.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jan Horak  - 1.8.5-19
- Rebuild against newer gecko

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.8.5-18
- ExcludeArch sparc64


clc-0.02-2.fc12
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* Sat Oct 24 2009 Sean Middleditch  0.02-2
- Removed explicit build requires version dependency.

* Tue Sep 29 2009 Sean Middleditch  0.02-1
- Update to upstream 0.02 release.
- Explicit version dependency for libtelnet due to unstable API/ABI.


constantine-backgrounds-12.1.0-1.fc12
-------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Martin Sourada  - 12.1.0-1
- New default, final extras selection, start building extras-kde subpackage

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Rex Dieter  - 12.0.0-2
- Provides: system-backgrounds(-kde) for F-12+ (until something else does)


cvc3-2.1-3.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jerry James  - 2.1-3
- Drop the graphviz BR to block generation of huge class graphs
- Use the new (X)Emacs RPM macros to simplify the spec file


evince-2.28.1-4.fc12
--------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1-4
- Avoid a help file seriesid clash


fedora-gnome-theme-12.3-2.fc12
------------------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Matthias Clasen  12.3-2
- Drop unused dependencies


fence-agents-3.0.4-3.fc12
-------------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 3.0.4-2
- Fix Requires: on libvirt/libvirt-client

* Tue Oct 27 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 3.0.4-3
- Switch to file based Requires for virsh


fipscheck-1.2.0-4.fc12
----------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 1.2.0-4
- ldconfig must be in the lib subpackage post(un)


firefox-3.5.4-1.fc12
--------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Jan Horak  - 3.5.4-1
- Update to 3.5.4


gdm-2.28.1-12.fc12
------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Ray Strode  2.28.1-11
- Tighten permissions on /var/run/gdm (bug 531063)

* Tue Oct 27 2009 Ray Strode  2.28.1-12
- One more go at bug 527920

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Ray Strode  2.28.1-10
- Position shutdown menu properly on multihead machines


gnome-applets-2.28.0-2.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 1:2.28.0-2
- Fix a help file seriesid clash between accessx-status and invest-applet


gnome-device-manager-0.2-6.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Matthias Clasen  0.2-6
- Avoid a help file seriesid clash


gnome-disk-utility-2.28.0-5.fc12
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* Tue Oct 13 2009 Tomas Bzatek  - 2.28.0-5.fc12
- Fix nautilus crashes by proper object referencing


gnome-python2-extras-2.25.3-12.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jan Horak  - 2.25.3-12
- Rebuild against newer gecko


gnome-web-photo-0.9-2.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jan Horak  - 0.9-2
- Rebuild against newer gecko


gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-3.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.25-3
- Fix audio disappearing with newer pulsesink


hsqldb-1.8.0.10-4.fc12
----------------------
* Thu Oct 22 2009 Jesse Keating  - 1.8.0.10-4
- Add patches from Caolan for #523110 and #517839


httpd-2.2.13-4.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  2.2.13-4
- add additional explanatory text to test page to help prevent legal emails to Fedora

* Tue Sep 08 2009 Joe Orton  2.2.13-2
- restart service in posttrans (#491567)


initscripts-9.02-1
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Bill Nottingham  - 9.02-1
- remove long-since deprecated initlog
- remove IUCV support (#507217)
- halt: put a wrapper around killall5 to account for retval 2 not being an error (#526539, )
- ifup-eth: honor DEFROUTE=yes|no for 'all' connection types. (#528822)
- network-functions: load bonding driver if BONDING_OPTS is defined. (#516569)
- rc.sysinit: put /dev/shm in mtab too, as dracut now mounts it. (#528667)

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Bill Nottingham  - 9.01-1
- rc.sysinit: fix handling of dmraid output to avoid error messages (#527726, )
- rwtab: add /var/lib/xend (#526046)
- translation updates: fi, nb, pl


kde-settings-4.3-12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Rex Dieter  4.3-12
- plasma-desktop-appletsrc: Constantine wallpaper
- drop /etc/kde/kdm/Xservers (#530660)


krb5-auth-dialog-0.13-2.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 0.13-2
- Fix a clash with the help file seriesid


libatasmart-0.17-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Lennart Poettering  0.17-1
- New upstream release
- Fixes bug 491552


libgphoto2-2.4.7-2.fc12
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Jindrich Novy  2.4.7-2
- return the dual-mode device to kernel once we don't use it (#530545)


libkate-0.3.6-1.fc12
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* Fri Oct 16 2009 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 0.3.6-1
- Update to 0.3.6


libtelnet-0.12-1.fc12
---------------------
* Sat Oct 24 2009 Sean Middleditch  0.12-1
- Update to libtelnet 0.12.
- Include libtelnet.pc in -devel package.


libvoikko-2.2.1-2.fc12
----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Ville-Pekka Vainio  - 2.2.1-2
- Add Python interface (package python-libvoikko, noarch)


mono-zeroconf-0.9.0-2.fc12
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* Thu Oct 22 2009 Paul Lange  - 0.9-1
- update to version 0.9
- move docs into devel package

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Michel Salim  - 0.9.0-2
- Make AvahiDbus the only provider for now


mozvoikko-1.0-5.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jan Horak  - 1.0-5
- Rebuild against newer gecko


netcdf-4.0.1-3.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 4.0.1-3
- Don't ship multi-lib incompatible nc-config
- Require gcc-gfortran for -devel (bug #483469)


openssh-5.2p1-29.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jan F. Chadima  - 5.2p1-29
- Resolve locking in ssh-add (#491312)


perl-Gtk2-MozEmbed-0.08-6.fc12.8
--------------------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jan Horak  - 0.08-6.8
- Rebuild against newer gecko


qt-4.5.3-6.fc12
---------------
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.3-6
- subpackage sqlite plugin, add Require on qt-sqlite in qt-x11
  for assistant

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Rex Dieter  4.5.3-5
- drop needless Prereq: /etc/ld.so.conf.d

* Sat Oct 10 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.3-4
- fix translation build issue
- rhel cleanup


sabayon-2.28.1-1.fc12
---------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Tomas Bzatek  - 2.28.1-1
- Update to 2.28.1


seamonkey-2.0-7.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Martin Stransky  2.0-7
- Update to 2.0


selinux-policy-3.6.32-35.fc12
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* Tue Oct 27 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-35
- Allow bittlebee to connect to privoxy port
- Allow iptables to work with shorewall

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-33
- Allow firefox to transition to java

* Fri Oct 23 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-34
- Turn allow_postfix_local_write_mail_spool on by default
- Allow bluetooth setpcap
- Allow dbus to transiton to rpm_t when executing debuginfo-install
- Allow chrome-sandbox to sends it self signals.
- Fix the labeling of /usr/lib/libswscale.so.0.7.1
- Allow spamassassin to list /var/lib/spamassassin

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-32
- Allow unconfined_execmem_t to transition to sandbox
- Allow postfix_cleanup to read etc_alias
- Allow consolekit to signal udev

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-31
- Allow unconfined_execmem_t to transition to sandbox
- Add sectool policy
- Add sssd log files

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-30
- Fixes found for confined users day

* Sat Oct 17 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-29
- Allow ccs to communicate with userdomains, and create tmpfs_t
- Add /dev/noz* as a modem_device_t and allow modemmanager to rw it.
- Add mapping for /var/run/lircd

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-28
- Allow sandbox_domain to interact with userdomain fifo_files

* Wed Oct 14 2009 Dan Walsh  3.6.32-27
- Allow plymouthd_t to use frame_buffer


setroubleshoot-2.2.42-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dan Walsh  - 2.2.42-1
- Update po
- Fix bugzilla reporting to handle LoadError exception


setroubleshoot-plugins-2.1.29-1.fc12
------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009  - 2.1.29-1
- Update-po
- Add httpd_write_content plugin


sound-juicer-2.28.0-4.fc12
--------------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.0-4
- Fix crasher when extracting a CD that's not in musicbrainz (#528297)


sssd-0.7.1-1.fc12
-----------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.7.1-1
- Fix segfault in sssd_pam when cache_credentials was enabled
- Update the sample configuration
- Fix upgrade issues caused by data provider service removal


system-config-language-1.3.3-3.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Pravin Satpute - 1.3.3-3
- fixed 530698

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Pravin Satpute - 1.3.3-2
- fixed 525040


tetex-perltex-1.9-1.fc12
------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 1.9-1
- update to 1.9


texlive-2007-46.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Jindrich Novy  2007-46
- add missing dependency on kpathsea


texlive-texmf-2007-32.fc12
--------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  2007-32
- resolve conflict between texlive-texmf (and -doc) and tetex-perltex
- resolve conflict between texlive-texmf and tetex-prosper
- resolve conflict between texlive-texmf and tetex-perltex


tuxcmd-0.6.69-git20091027.1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Tomas Bzatek  0.6.69-git20091027.1
- Rebase to latest git
- Enable PowerPC architectures


xulrunner-1.9.1.4-1.fc12
------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Jan Horak  - 1.9.1.4-1
- Update to 1.9.1.4


Summary:
Added Packages: 7
Removed Packages: 3
Modified Packages: 50



From markkuk at tuubi.net  Wed Oct 28 12:23:46 2009
From: markkuk at tuubi.net (Markku Kolkka)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:23:46 +0200
Subject: Fedora Server distro?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200910281423.46483.markkuk@tuubi.net>

Rob Healey kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika keskiviikko, 28. 
lokakuuta 2009):
> 
> Yes, but I never have played around with CentOS yet...  I saw
> that you were able to create a server out of yours, but do you
> know if there is a CentOS Server distro or would you be
> willing to write up a howto on how you did it?

Here's a howto:
1. Download install media from 
http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=15
2. Install on hardware suitable for use as a server.
3. Choose the server software packages you want either during 
installation, or afterwards using Add/Remove Software or yum.
4. Configure the services (see documentation at: 
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/ )

-- 
 Markku Kolkka
 markku.kolkka at iki.fi



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 28 12:31:02 2009
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:31:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: false error, I am getting updates after this error ?  
Message-ID: <415904.21263.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Unable to update, got the following: 

Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
rawhide/metalink                                         |  13 kB     00:00     
rawhide                                                  | 4.2 kB     00:00     
rawhide/primary_db                                       |  12 MB     00:13     
http://fedora.mirrors.tds.net/pub/fedora/development/x86_64/os/repodata/87680f533c4c0f6ca677549bc5b168e27f10bf65f143499fa312fd7366835c30-primary.sqlite.bz2: [Errno -1] Metadata file does not match checksum                                   
Trying other mirror.                                                            
Traceback (most recent call last):===========-] 282 kB/s |  12 MB     00:00 ETA 
  File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in                                      
    yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)                             
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 315, in user_main                  
    errcode = main(args)                                                        
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 180, in main                       
    result, resultmsgs = base.doCommands()                                      
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 347, in doCommands                     
    self._getTs(needTsRemove)                                                   
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 99, in _getTs   
    self._getTsInfo(remove_only)                                                
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 110, in _getTsInfo                                                                              
    pkgSack = self.pkgSack                                                      
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 720, in 
    pkgSack = property(fget=lambda self: self._getSacks(),                      
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 549, in _getSacks                                                                               
    self.repos.populateSack(which=repos)                                        
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/repos.py", line 277, in populateSack                                                                               
    sack.populate(repo, mdtype, callback, cacheonly)                            
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 164, in populate 
    if self._check_db_version(repo, mydbtype):                                  
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 223, in _check_db_version                                                                        
    return repo._check_db_version(mdtype)                                       
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1245, in _check_db_version                                                                       
    repoXML = self.repoXML                                                      
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1408, in 
    repoXML = property(fget=lambda self: self._getRepoXML(),                    
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1400, in _getRepoXML                                                                             
    self._loadRepoXML(text=self)                                                
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1390, in _loadRepoXML                                                                            
    return self._groupLoadRepoXML(text, mdtypes)                                
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1368, in _groupLoadRepoXML                                                                       
    self._commonRetrieveDataMD(mdtypes)                                         
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1344, in _commonRetrieveDataMD                                                                   
    if not self._retrieveMD(nmdtype, retrieve_can_fail=True):                   
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1553, in _retrieveMD                                                                             
    size=thisdata.size)                                                         
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 823, in _getFile 
    size=size                                                                   
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/mirror.py", line 408, in urlgrab                                                                            
    return self._mirror_try(func, url, kw)                                      
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/mirror.py", line 394, in _mirror_try                                                                        
    return func_ref( *(fullurl,), **kwargs )                                    
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 976, in urlgrab                                                                           
    return self._retry(opts, retryfunc, url, filename)                          
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 880, in _retry                                                                            
    r = apply(func, (opts,) + args, {})                                         
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 962, in retryfunc                                                                         
    fo = PyCurlFileObject(url, filename, opts)                                  
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 1056, in __init__                                                                         
    self._do_open()                                                             
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 1314, in _do_open
    self._do_grab()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line 1455, in _do_grab
    os.utime(self.filename, (mod_time, mod_time))
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/cache/yum/x86_64/11.92/rawhide/87680f533c4c0f6ca677549bc5b168e27f10bf65f143499fa312fd7366835c30-primary.sqlite.bz2'


However, I tried again, and it is working :)

Regards,


Antonio 


      



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Wed Oct 28 12:35:21 2009
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:35:21 -0400
Subject: Fedora Server distro?
In-Reply-To: <200910281423.46483.markkuk@tuubi.net>
References: 
	<200910281423.46483.markkuk@tuubi.net>
Message-ID: <20091028123521.GA50061@mail.scottro.net>

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 02:23:46PM +0200, Markku Kolkka wrote:

> Rob Healey kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika keskiviikko, 28. 
> lokakuuta 2009):
> > 
> > Yes, but I never have played around with CentOS yet...  I saw
> > that you were able to create a server out of yours, but do you
> > know if there is a CentOS Server distro or would you be
> > willing to write up a howto on how you did it?
> 
> Here's a howto:
> 1. Download install media from 
> http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=15
> 2. Install on hardware suitable for use as a server.
> 3. Choose the server software packages you want either during 
> installation, or afterwards using Add/Remove Software or yum.
> 4. Configure the services (see documentation at: 
> http://www.centos.org/docs/5/ )

I think Markku covered it pretty well.  The only thing I might add is
that *I* like to just download the first CD, then, during installation
(which is quite similar to Fedora's) and uncheck everything, including
base system.  This will give you a minimal installation, suitable for
customizing.  Many folks don't want X on a server.  

There is a forum (though not that active) and also a wiki, covering
several server aspects. 

Also Rob, not sure what mailer you're using (maybe a cell phone?), but
it gets difficult to tell which text was yours and what was the text to
which you were responding, at least when using mutt.  

-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Buffy: So. You saw their faces, but you can't describe
them.
Spike: Well, they were human. Two eyes each, kind of in the middle.



From mike at cchtml.com  Wed Oct 28 13:39:37 2009
From: mike at cchtml.com (Michael Cronenworth)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:39:37 -0500
Subject: SV: Fedora Server distro???
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4AE84999.8000300@cchtml.com>

birger wrote:
> I am typing this on my cell phone so please forgive any artifacts.
> 
> Centos is a server distro, and being a recompile of rhel it is a good one. Using fedora for servers means upgrading them more often than you may want.
> 
> Look at the centos 3rd party repo that offers fedora packages compiled for centos. Maybe a perfect setup?
> 
> Building fedora source rpms on centos is usually not very hard either.
> 

If you want that much Fedora stuff, then just use Fedora. I use Fedora
10 and 11 on several server systems and do not have any issues with that
setup. One server has been Fedora since Core 5 I think. Upgrading takes
about an hour for downloading/updating and checking config files, but I
only do that once a year. Regular updates happen about once a month
after hours when I can reboot the machines.

However, it depends on your particular situation in the end.



From poelstra at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 13:49:37 2009
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:49:37 -0400
Subject: Upcoming schedule
Message-ID: <4AE84BF1.3020509@redhat.com>

Tue 20-Oct  Mon 02-Nov  Beta Testing
Fri 30-Oct  Fri 30-Oct  Blocker Bug Day (F12Blocker) #2
Mon 02-Nov  Mon 02-Nov  End of Beta Testing
Wed 04-Nov  Wed 04-Nov  Compose RC
Wed 04-Nov  Wed 04-Nov  Enable Fedora 12 Updates
Wed 04-Nov  Wed 11-Nov  Test RC
Mon 09-Nov  Mon 09-Nov  F12 Blocker Review (go/no go) 3 PM EDT
Wed 11-Nov  Wed 11-Nov  F12 Project Wide Release Readiness Meeting



From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 15:27:12 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:27:12 +1100
Subject: HP network printer not working with SELinux in enforcing mode
Message-ID: 

Hi

I have a HP printer connected to my rawhide machine through wired Ethernet.
I have configured it using hp-setup utility but when I try to print anything
I get these SELinux denials:

SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/avahi-autoipd "net_admin" access.
SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "name_bind" access.
SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "getattr" access on
/var/lib/net-snmp.
SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "search" access on
/var/lib/net-snmp.
SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp "name_bind" access.

Shouldn't everything work without requiring user to generate a local policy
for it? or have I screwed up something while configuring the printer?

Regards,
Masood
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From twaugh at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 16:08:12 2009
From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:08:12 +0000
Subject: HP network printer not working with SELinux in enforcing mode
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1256746093.2472.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 02:27 +1100, Masood wrote:
> SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/avahi-autoipd "net_admin" access.
> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "name_bind" access.
> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "getattr" access
> on /var/lib/net-snmp.
> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "search" access
> on /var/lib/net-snmp.
> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp "name_bind" access.

Part of this looks like bug #530712, which should have been fixed in
selinux-policy-3.6.32-33.fc12:
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530712

What selinux-policy version do you currently have?

Tim.
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From idht4n at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 16:11:26 2009
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:11:26 -0700
Subject: system-config-services broken in rawhide?
Message-ID: 

[root ~]# system-config-services
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/sbin/system-config-services", line 1038, in 
    GUI(use_dbus=use_dbus).run()
  File "/usr/sbin/system-config-services", line 986, in __init__
    self.serviceherders.append(cls(bus=self._bus))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/scservices/dbus/proxy/serviceherders.py",
line 47, in __init__
    self.dbus_service_path)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 244, in get_object
    follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 241, in __init__
    self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 183, in
activate_name_owner
    self.start_service_by_name(bus_name)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 281, in
start_service_by_name
    'su', (bus_name, flags)))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line
630, in call_blocking
    message, timeout)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited
with unknown return code 1



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Wed Oct 28 16:18:59 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:18:59 -0600
Subject: Kernel update
Message-ID: <1256746740.8560.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

I am experiencing not being allowed to update to the newest kernel.
When trying this is the results: Warning: _get_list unexpected
command : :ready ([])  Where do I go from here?
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct 28 16:29:31 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:29:31 +0000
Subject: Kernel update
In-Reply-To: <1256746740.8560.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256746740.8560.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4AE8716B.1090505@hi.is>

On 10/28/2009 04:18 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> I am experiencing not being allowed to update to the newest kernel.
> When trying this is the results: Warning: _get_list unexpected
> command : :ready ([])  Where do I go from here?
>   
Hum I just installed the latest kernel via download from koji and the
usual rpm command how exactly are you trying to update to the latest kernel?

JBG
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From camberwell at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 16:33:44 2009
From: camberwell at gmail.com (Martin Airs)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:33:44 +0000
Subject: system-config-services broken in rawhide?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4AE87268.7090708@gmail.com>

On 10/28/2009 04:11 PM, David L wrote:
> [root ~]# system-config-services
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>    File "/usr/sbin/system-config-services", line 1038, in
>      GUI(use_dbus=use_dbus).run()
>    File "/usr/sbin/system-config-services", line 986, in __init__
>      self.serviceherders.append(cls(bus=self._bus))
>    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/scservices/dbus/proxy/serviceherders.py",
> line 47, in __init__
>      self.dbus_service_path)
>    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 244, in get_object
>      follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
>    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 241, in __init__
>      self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
>    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 183, in
> activate_name_owner
>      self.start_service_by_name(bus_name)
>    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 281, in
> start_service_by_name
>      'su', (bus_name, flags)))
>    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line
> 630, in call_blocking
>      message, timeout)
> dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited
> with unknown return code 1
>
>    
Works ok here, alltho I'm using x86_64 dont know if that matters

Martin



From michal at harddata.com  Wed Oct 28 16:56:21 2009
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:56:21 -0600
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
In-Reply-To: <4AE81994.9020508@hi.is>
References:  <4AE81994.9020508@hi.is>
Message-ID: <20091028165621.GA24453@mail.harddata.com>

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:14:44AM +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> On 10/28/2009 01:03 AM, Richard Ryniker wrote:
> > No joy when I plugged a Bose Corporation Companion 5 USB sound system
> 
> First run alsamixer -c0 and check if something might be muted

Looking at a posted output of 'alsa-info' would not be that
'alsamixer -c1'?

   Michal



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 17:08:35 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:08:35 -0700
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
In-Reply-To: <4AE81994.9020508@hi.is>
References:   <4AE81994.9020508@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1256749715.2314.603.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 10:14 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:

> Then run killall pulseaudio && pulseaudio and see if you get some sound
> out of those bose speakers..

pulseaudio -k
pulseaudio

is better, as it deals with pulseaudio's penchant to respawn itself
whenever it's killed.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From dwalsh at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 17:10:14 2009
From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:10:14 -0400
Subject: HP network printer not working with SELinux in enforcing mode
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4AE87AF6.8000504@redhat.com>

On 10/28/2009 11:27 AM, Masood wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have a HP printer connected to my rawhide machine through wired Ethernet.
> I have configured it using hp-setup utility but when I try to print anything
> I get these SELinux denials:
> 
> SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/avahi-autoipd "net_admin" access.
> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "name_bind" access.
> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "getattr" access on
> /var/lib/net-snmp.
> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "search" access on
> /var/lib/net-snmp.
> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp "name_bind" access.
> 
> Shouldn't everything work without requiring user to generate a local policy
> for it? or have I screwed up something while configuring the printer?
> 
> Regards,
> Masood
> 
> 
Masood please update to the latest Rawhide policy.
selinux-policy-3.6.32-35.fc12.noarch

And see if this fixes the problem.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 18:11:42 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:11:42 -0700
Subject: Bug zapper priorities [was Re: theora screencasting not
 working in F12]
In-Reply-To: <1256712948.2314.599.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <2068886238.239631256643507351.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	
	<1256660790.2447.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4AE739D5.6090300@hi.is>
	<1256672546.2447.65.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	
	<1256690201.2314.591.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4AE7E7A2.7060404@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<1256712948.2314.599.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1256753502.2314.611.camel@adam.local.net>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 23:55 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> The installer itself is on the list. If anaconda really does run the
> packaged version of gparted - or use libparted, I guess - then it should
> be added to the list, yeah. I'll check with the anaconda team, thanks.

clumens tells me the installer does not use gparted, but does use
libparted and pyparted to some extent. So we should put that on the
triage components list. I'll bring it up at the next Bugzappers meeting.
Thanks.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 18:12:45 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:12:45 -0700
Subject: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
	
	
Message-ID: <1256753565.2314.612.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 10:13 +0100, Josep Puigdemont wrote:

> I don't think I've seen the same behavior, I did select the correct
> keyboard layout after booting with the Live CD, and then installed the
> Beta to the HD. When I rebooted firstboot popped up, added a new user.
> When logged in as that user the keyboard was still defaulted to US
> layout (I guess GDM was defaulted to that, I didn't pay attention).
> 
> IIRC, the first screen during installation from the LiveCD asked for
> the keyboard layout, I would have expected GDM to default to that
> layout after reboot.
> 
> I'll try again with the RC to be sure, though.

That is precisely the bug under discussion.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 18:14:49 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:14:49 -0700
Subject: system-config-services broken in rawhide?
In-Reply-To: <4AE87268.7090708@gmail.com>
References: 
	<4AE87268.7090708@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256753689.2314.613.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 16:33 +0000, Martin Airs wrote:
> On 10/28/2009 04:11 PM, David L wrote:
> > [root ~]# system-config-services
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >    File "/usr/sbin/system-config-services", line 1038, in
> >      GUI(use_dbus=use_dbus).run()
> >    File "/usr/sbin/system-config-services", line 986, in __init__
> >      self.serviceherders.append(cls(bus=self._bus))
> >    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/scservices/dbus/proxy/serviceherders.py",
> > line 47, in __init__
> >      self.dbus_service_path)
> >    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 244, in get_object
> >      follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
> >    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 241, in __init__
> >      self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
> >    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 183, in
> > activate_name_owner
> >      self.start_service_by_name(bus_name)
> >    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 281, in
> > start_service_by_name
> >      'su', (bus_name, flags)))
> >    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line
> > 630, in call_blocking
> >      message, timeout)
> > dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
> > org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited
> > with unknown return code 1
> >
> >    
> Works ok here, alltho I'm using x86_64 dont know if that matters

Ditto.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From davej at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 18:20:12 2009
From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:20:12 -0400
Subject: Fedora 12 beta issues
In-Reply-To: <4AE7A4E2.5020702@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <4AE7A4E2.5020702@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20091028182012.GA26070@redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 07:56:50PM -0600, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote:
 
 > 1. Install log shows the following issues (or potential issues):
 > 
 > Installing kernel-PAE-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686
 > W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
 > W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko
 
This one is already in bugzilla, and may even already be fixed in
a newer dracut.

	Dave



From birger at birger.sh  Wed Oct 28 19:13:47 2009
From: birger at birger.sh (Birger Wathne)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:13:47 +0100
Subject: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
In-Reply-To: <1256753565.2314.612.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
	
	
	<1256753565.2314.612.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1256757227.4ae897eb252c3@secure.prioris.net>

I reinstalled my test system today.

Boot from live cd
Selected Norwegian layout at login
Got USA layout in the session (to be expected since the live CD is the same)
Ran 'install to disk'
Selected Norwegian keyboard during install
rebooted to level 3
ran yum update
rebooted
default keyboard layout when selecting my user was still usa :-(
Selected Norwegian layout and logged in
Got Norwegian layout after login :-)

At least one part of the bug is fixed.

I didn't remember to log out and back in to see if it remembered my keyboard
layout. Got too busy with pc-bert under dosbox :-D Why is there no Unix
Q*Bert clone?

-- 
birger



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 19:31:14 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:31:14 -0700
Subject: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
In-Reply-To: <1256757227.4ae897eb252c3@secure.prioris.net>
References: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
	
	
	<1256753565.2314.612.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256757227.4ae897eb252c3@secure.prioris.net>
Message-ID: <1256758274.2314.618.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 20:13 +0100, Birger Wathne wrote:
> I reinstalled my test system today.
> 
> Boot from live cd
> Selected Norwegian layout at login
> Got USA layout in the session (to be expected since the live CD is the same)
> Ran 'install to disk'
> Selected Norwegian keyboard during install
> rebooted to level 3
> ran yum update
> rebooted
> default keyboard layout when selecting my user was still usa :-(
> Selected Norwegian layout and logged in
> Got Norwegian layout after login :-)
> 
> At least one part of the bug is fixed.
> 
> I didn't remember to log out and back in to see if it remembered my keyboard
> layout. Got too busy with pc-bert under dosbox :-D Why is there no Unix
> Q*Bert clone?

Possibly the best test you could do would be to grab the latest nightly
build from
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/ and test
an install with that, see if it behaves as you would want it to.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From robhealey1 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 20:22:43 2009
From: robhealey1 at gmail.com (Rob Healey)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:22:43 -0700
Subject: Fedora Server distro?
Message-ID: 

Dear Michael Conerworth:

birger wrote:
> I am typing this on my cell phone so please forgive any artifacts.
>
> Centos is a server distro, and being a recompile of rhel it is a good one.
Using fedora for servers means upgrading them more often than you may want.
>
> Look at the centos 3rd party repo that offers fedora packages compiled for
centos. Maybe a perfect setup?
>
> Building fedora source rpms on centos is usually not very hard either.
>

If you want that much Fedora stuff, then just use Fedora. I use Fedora
10 and 11 on several server systems and do not have any issues with that
setup. One server has been Fedora since Core 5 I think. Upgrading takes
about an hour for downloading/updating and checking config files, but I
only do that once a year. Regular updates happen about once a month
after hours when I can reboot the machines.

*Since you have several Fedora servers up and running, may I ask if there
was a howto that you followed or did it all come from you?  If you, then
would you be willing to write-up a HOWTO for those of us out there that do
not understand it all or as much as you may or may not???**

Sincerely yours,
Rob G. Healey*


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From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Wed Oct 28 20:25:31 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:25:31 -0600
Subject: Kernel update
In-Reply-To: <4AE8716B.1090505@hi.is>
References: <1256746740.8560.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<4AE8716B.1090505@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1256761531.2678.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 16:29 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> On 10/28/2009 04:18 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > I am experiencing not being allowed to update to the newest kernel.
> > When trying this is the results: Warning: _get_list unexpected
> > command : :ready ([])  Where do I go from here?
> >   
> Hum I just installed the latest kernel via download from koji and the
> usual rpm command how exactly are you trying to update to the latest kernel?
> 
> JBG
> -- 
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
-- 
I finally got it install and my network manager would not work.  I boot
from the previous kernel and uninstall the debug devel and debug
packages and the new updates of network manager and we will see what
happen after that.  Thank you for your concern in this matter.  Will
keep you informed if you don't mind.


Lawrence E Graves 




From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Wed Oct 28 20:35:51 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:35:51 -0600
Subject: Network Connection
Message-ID: <1256762151.2678.6.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

I have just installed the new kernel in Fedora Beta 12 and now I have no
network connection lan or wifi.  It works with the other kernel. What
did I do wrong or better yet, what should I do right to make it work.  I
heard that it was fixed.
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From mike at cchtml.com  Wed Oct 28 20:49:57 2009
From: mike at cchtml.com (Michael Cronenworth)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:49:57 -0500
Subject: Fedora Server distro?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4AE8AE75.5080506@cchtml.com>

Rob Healey wrote:
> 
> *Since you have several Fedora servers up and running, may I ask if
> there was a howto that you followed or did it all come from you?  If
> you, then would you be willing to write-up a HOWTO for those of us out
> there that do not understand it all or as much as you may or may not???**
> 


I'm not sure what "How-to" you are looking for. You simply install
Fedora just like you would RHEL or CentOS. Then install the server
daemons you want to use.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 21:04:23 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:04:23 -0700
Subject: Network Connection
In-Reply-To: <1256762151.2678.6.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256762151.2678.6.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256763863.2314.622.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 14:35 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> I have just installed the new kernel in Fedora Beta 12 and now I have no
> network connection lan or wifi.  It works with the other kernel. What
> did I do wrong or better yet, what should I do right to make it work.  I
> heard that it was fixed.

Make sure you didn't update using yumex . If you did, remove the new
kernel package and re-install it with yum or PackageKit.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 21:05:09 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:05:09 -0400
Subject: [Test-Announce] F-12 Blocker Meeting 2009-10-30 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM
	EDT)
Message-ID: <1256763909.2417.63.camel@localhost.localdomain>

When: Friday, 2009-10-30 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

Please join us this Friday for another review of the Fedora 12 release
blocker bug list [1].  After two previous reviews, the list is now down
to 44 issues.  I've included a snapshot of the list (sorted by
component) below.  If you are the reported or maintainer for one of the
issues below, please take a moment to ensure the issue is up-to-date.

BUG#   STATUS    COMPONENT          SUMMARY
531347 NEW       abrt               abrt eating 99% cpu                                                      
493058 ASSIGNED  anaconda           Custom partitioning creation/edit causes traceback                       
506013 MODIFIED  anaconda           liveinst crash - DBusException ... No such property HwAddress            
510545 MODIFIED  anaconda           RFE: encryption key escrow support                                       
517260 MODIFIED  anaconda           liveinst fails at partitioning screen                                    
517491 ASSIGNED  anaconda           Anaconda fails if filesystem should be shrunk                            
526789 ASSIGNED  anaconda           Install didn't reboot at the end                                         
526925 ASSIGNED  anaconda           [Back] button does not have a corresponding icon (like [Next] does)      
527952 MODIFIED  anaconda           AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'disk'                
528317 MODIFIED  anaconda           anaconda traceback in getDefaultTimeZone KeyError en_AU                  
531407 MODIFIED  anaconda           --encrypted option does not work with pv in kickstart script             
530603 MODIFIED  compiz             Loads of "unknown actions" in GNOME keybindings                          
528909 NEW       DeviceKit-disks    DevKit 95-devkit-disks.rules should avoid scan all DM devices            
530913 NEW       DeviceKit-power    Couldn't hibernate: Swap space is encrypted                              
528097 MODIFIED  dmraid             /sbin/dmraid needs possibly unmounted /usr/lib                           
529267 NEW       fedora-logos       Better label + icon for the installer on the live cd                     
528497 MODIFIED  firstaidkit        FirstAidKit does not start when using F-12-Beta rescue mode from disc1.is
530320 NEW       firstboot          firstboot errors when loading modules                                    
512944 MODIFIED  gdm                fast-user-switching locks up login screen                                
531423 ASSIGNED  gdm                double-spacing in language and keyboard dialogs                          
531339 NEW       grubby             /sbin/installkernel isn't right for dracut                               
529982 NEW       gvfs               [abrt] crash detected in gvfs-1.4.0-6.fc12                               
517839 MODIFIED  hsqldb             bitxor and bitor both mapped to single bitor function                    
523110 MODIFIED  hsqldb             autoincrement bustage on column redefinition                             
528537 ASSIGNED  kernel             fails to get kickstart file over nfs.                                    
524795 ON_QA     libsigsegv         libsigsegv allocates alternate stack on the main stack                   
526549 NEW       lvm2               rats_install kickstart fails due to swap device prompt                   
523815 ASSIGNED  nautilus           nautilus hoses vino                                                      
531425 NEW       nfs-utils          newly installed system,NFS daemon start failed after  boot               
529349 ASSIGNED  PackageKit         Can't use yum with outdated or no repo data                              
530945 NEW       PackageKit         Package-kit ask for key but does not import                              
526044 NEW       polkit             Using invalid subject type crashes polkitd                               
517625 ASSIGNED  xorg-x11-drv-ati   Xorg stops responding and consumes 93%+ CPU time (radeon driver pcie_aspm
522929 ASSIGNED  xorg-x11-drv-ati   Occasional system hang when KMS kicks in (RV770)                         
522970 ASSIGNED  xorg-x11-drv-ati   popup messages unreadable                                                
531174 NEW       xorg-x11-drv-ati   KMS Screen Out-of-sync                                                   
531383 ASSIGNED  xorg-x11-drv-ati   KMS: VT Switch Problem with Radeon XPRESS 200M                           
514600 ASSIGNED  xorg-x11-drv-intel Intel 82G965 requires 'nomodeset' workaround to get working text-mode    
528005 MODIFIED  xorg-x11-drv-nouveaX server crash                                                           
530169 ASSIGNED  xorg-x11-drv-nouveanouveau + gdm crashes                     

Have an issue you'd like to propose as an F12 release blocker?  Please
consider the following criteria when escalating an issue:

      * Can this issue be fixed with a future update or is it part of
        the critical path? [2]
      * Is this defect a high (or greater) severity [3] with no, or an
        unreasonable, workaround?
      * Is this an embarrassing bug affecting a large number of users?

Come join the fun!
James

[1]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F12Blocker&hide_resolved=1
[2]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages_Proposal#When_and_how_to_determine_packages_within_the_path
[3]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow#Priority_and_Severity
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From tom.mannerhagen at glocalnet.net  Wed Oct 28 21:14:34 2009
From: tom.mannerhagen at glocalnet.net (Tom Mannerhagen)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:14:34 +0100
Subject: Units with Toshiba-BIOS can't activate external screen until
 rebooted.
Message-ID: <1256764474.1872.39.camel@R500>

Hi

I have filed the following bug since some time ago:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521592

If You don't want to go to the link here's a short summary:

Using an external screen to display an extended desktop or clone the
content on the internal screen does not work.
The Display-utility found under System > Preferences can correctly
identify the attached screen, but is not able to activate it.
It behaves as if the external screen is working normally (cloning,
extended desktop) but the external screen remains in power save mode or
at least not reacting at all.

The only way to activate it is to reboot the unit with the external
screen attached from start. Then all functions supported by the display
applet works as expected.
I can even unplug the ext screen, plug it in again and all is still
working as expected.

I was convinced that this was an Intel specific issue, but it seems not.
I have tested 2 nVidia units with the Beta of F12 showing exactly the
same problem as I have seen on the Intel units.
Additional - maybe somewhat redundant info: even Ubuntu 9.10 with the
latest nVidia proprietary driver shows the same problem.

So, it seems I am a bit incorrect in the problem description in the
filed bug mentioned above, since the bug is actual only on the Toshiba's
that have a Toshiba BIOS.
Toshiba's with Phoenix / AMI BIOS'es do not show this issue.

Anyway, this problem was introduced in F11 and has been lurking there
since.
It seems that there is little attention to this bug - is there any other
Toshiba-BIOS-unit-user with similar experience or maybe some nice
workarounds?

h?lsningar / regards

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From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Wed Oct 28 21:30:50 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:30:50 -0600
Subject: Network Connection
In-Reply-To: <1256763863.2314.622.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256762151.2678.6.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256763863.2314.622.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1256765450.2678.8.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 14:04 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 14:35 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > I have just installed the new kernel in Fedora Beta 12 and now I have no
> > network connection lan or wifi.  It works with the other kernel. What
> > did I do wrong or better yet, what should I do right to make it work.  I
> > heard that it was fixed.
> 
> Make sure you didn't update using yumex . If you did, remove the new
> kernel package and re-install it with yum or PackageKit.
> 
> -- 
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> http://www.happyassassin.net
> 
Thank you.  I am learning more and more from all of you.  Thank again
for putting of with my ignorance.  One day.:-)
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From awilliam at redhat.com  Wed Oct 28 21:34:09 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:34:09 -0700
Subject: Network Connection
In-Reply-To: <1256765450.2678.8.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256762151.2678.6.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256763863.2314.622.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256765450.2678.8.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256765649.2314.623.camel@adam.local.net>

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 15:30 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 14:04 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 14:35 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > > I have just installed the new kernel in Fedora Beta 12 and now I have no
> > > network connection lan or wifi.  It works with the other kernel. What
> > > did I do wrong or better yet, what should I do right to make it work.  I
> > > heard that it was fixed.
> > 
> > Make sure you didn't update using yumex . If you did, remove the new
> > kernel package and re-install it with yum or PackageKit.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Adam Williamson
> > Fedora QA Community Monkey
> > IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> > http://www.happyassassin.net
> > 
> Thank you.  I am learning more and more from all of you.  Thank again
> for putting of with my ignorance.  One day.:-)

If that's what affected you, it's not really ignorance, you just were
unfortunate to hit a bug in yumex . I just know about it because several
forum users hit it before you did...

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From ronin3510 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 23:17:32 2009
From: ronin3510 at gmail.com (ronin3510)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:17:32 +0200
Subject: New BugZapper Introduction
Message-ID: <18a1fce80910281617g197a6528g122f6ef1b9ebf55@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

I'm very glad to join at Fedora Bug Zappers Team. I've been dealing
with Linux in general for several years. For about two years my main
desktop runs Fedora 24/7 but I like to keep an eye on the other main
distros available (Think Debian, CentoOS, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu).


I'm preparing for RHCE and possibly LPI exam(s).
Using the nick "Nokia" the most visible part of my activity regarding
Fedora can be seen/evaluated by reading the forums.fedoraforum.org


On freenode I'm "nokia3510" and I've been around for a while in some
of the Fedora dedicated channels. Some of you perhaps already know me,
the others we'll know me better after reading this.




So let me introduce myself.

My name is Gabriel Sfestarof, I'm 31 years old and for a living I'm a
violinist in Bucharest Philarmonic Orchestra - Romania
My first contact with a computer was on a 486 DX Cyrix CPU and Windows
3.1 (and I've seen/used almost every version available till now)

In my spare time I administer a bunch of Windows/Linux boxes.
I have taken Cisco networking classes (CCNA 1-4, Wireless, Security,
Fundamentals of Unix/Linux) to mention a few

I'm very interested in security and system administration. Also, I'd
be glad if someone could spare a few minutes to mentor/get me started
in this new endeavour.

At my signature I'm sending my contacts for anyone to know how to contact me.

Bye


Contacts

IRC: nokia3510 AT irc.freenode.net
yahoo: ronin3510 yahoo DoT com
gtalk: ronin3510
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From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 23:33:21 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:33:21 -0400
Subject: New BugZapper Introduction
In-Reply-To: <18a1fce80910281617g197a6528g122f6ef1b9ebf55@mail.gmail.com>
References: <18a1fce80910281617g197a6528g122f6ef1b9ebf55@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091028233321.GB5977@blackhare>

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 01:17:32AM +0200, ronin3510 wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm very glad to join at Fedora Bug Zappers Team. I've been dealing
> with Linux in general for several years. For about two years my main
> desktop runs Fedora 24/7 but I like to keep an eye on the other main
> distros available (Think Debian, CentoOS, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu).
> 
> 
> I'm preparing for RHCE and possibly LPI exam(s).
> Using the nick "Nokia" the most visible part of my activity regarding
> Fedora can be seen/evaluated by reading the forums.fedoraforum.org
> 
> 
> On freenode I'm "nokia3510" and I've been around for a while in some
> of the Fedora dedicated channels. Some of you perhaps already know me,
> the others we'll know me better after reading this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So let me introduce myself.
> 
> My name is Gabriel Sfestarof, I'm 31 years old and for a living I'm a
> violinist in Bucharest Philarmonic Orchestra - Romania
> My first contact with a computer was on a 486 DX Cyrix CPU and Windows
> 3.1 (and I've seen/used almost every version available till now)
> 
> In my spare time I administer a bunch of Windows/Linux boxes.
> I have taken Cisco networking classes (CCNA 1-4, Wireless, Security,
> Fundamentals of Unix/Linux) to mention a few
> 
> I'm very interested in security and system administration. Also, I'd
> be glad if someone could spare a few minutes to mentor/get me started
> in this new endeavour.
> 
> At my signature I'm sending my contacts for anyone to know how to contact me.
> 
> Bye
> 
> 
> Contacts
> 
> IRC: nokia3510 AT irc.freenode.net
> yahoo: ronin3510 yahoo DoT com
> gtalk: ronin3510

Hello again Gabriel, welcome to the group! I will approve your group membership in a
second. We've just updated the list of components which we'd like
BugZappers to work on as a priority, so there's lots available. The list
is:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Components_and_Triagers

we'd recommend you pick a component from that list that you feel
comfortable working on, then contact its maintainer to say you'll be
working on triaging it, and ask if they have any tips or special
requests. Then read:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Tools
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/FindingBugs
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/How_to_Triage
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/FindingDuplicates
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/StockBugzillaResponses

To see how the process works (I know that looks like a lot of pages, but
several of them are pretty short, and they all work together). Please do
join #fedora-bugzappers and ask if you have any questions or problems,
there's usually another team member around who can help you out. Thanks
a lot for volunteering your time! Do come out to the next meeting -
they're Tuesdays at 15:00 UTC - if you have the time, and we can welcome
you there.

Edward (TK009)



From gagomes at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 01:36:35 2009
From: gagomes at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gon=E7alo_Gomes?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:36:35 +0000
Subject: Introduction
Message-ID: <35e28e0a0910281836v81569f0l13c0ea521a8e5493@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

I am glad to join this community of Fedora BugZappers. I can't say I am a
big user of Fedora yet, as I only started officially using it since version
11 on my work laptop, but when it comes to Linux in general, I have been
using Red Hat for the most part of my time, having started in 5.0 (circa 98
or 99) which was my first Linux experience. To this day, I still remember
how it hurt adapting to a black-and-white reality: Unsupported WinModem, no
drivers for the particular S3 video card chipset I used back in the day,
FIPS vs Windows partition baptism of fire and a bunch of other seemingly
interesting experiences!

I have varied experience with Linux, from System Administration to
Development. I am actively interested in projects related to Virtualization,
Security, Development Tools, Debugging and Performance Analysis.

I am 27 years old, Portuguese, living in Dublin, Ireland for the past 1
year. I work as Support Engineer for an American company who sells a
virtualization product based on RH.

If anyone would like to reach me, I am available via gtalk/email/msn on this
email address. I am also part of the freenode stats, possibly ranking
somewhere in the top50 idlers under the nick 'goncalo', so your best and
safest bet would be using email to reach me.

Cheers,
Goncalo.
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From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 01:59:58 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:59:58 -0400
Subject: (BugZapper) Introduction
In-Reply-To: <35e28e0a0910281836v81569f0l13c0ea521a8e5493@mail.gmail.com>
References: <35e28e0a0910281836v81569f0l13c0ea521a8e5493@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091029015958.GA13442@blackhare>

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 01:36:35AM +0000, Gon?alo Gomes wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am glad to join this community of Fedora BugZappers. I can't say I am a
> big user of Fedora yet, as I only started officially using it since version
> 11 on my work laptop, but when it comes to Linux in general, I have been
> using Red Hat for the most part of my time, having started in 5.0 (circa 98
> or 99) which was my first Linux experience. To this day, I still remember
> how it hurt adapting to a black-and-white reality: Unsupported WinModem, no
> drivers for the particular S3 video card chipset I used back in the day,
> FIPS vs Windows partition baptism of fire and a bunch of other seemingly
> interesting experiences!
> 
> I have varied experience with Linux, from System Administration to
> Development. I am actively interested in projects related to Virtualization,
> Security, Development Tools, Debugging and Performance Analysis.
> 
> I am 27 years old, Portuguese, living in Dublin, Ireland for the past 1
> year. I work as Support Engineer for an American company who sells a
> virtualization product based on RH.
> 
> If anyone would like to reach me, I am available via gtalk/email/msn on this
> email address. I am also part of the freenode stats, possibly ranking
> somewhere in the top50 idlers under the nick 'goncalo', so your best and
> safest bet would be using email to reach me.
> 
> Cheers,
> Goncalo.

Hello Goncalo and again Welcome =). I will approve your group membership in a
second. Here are some links to information you'll want to familiarize yourself
 with:
Components and Triager List:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Components_and_Triagers

we'd recommend you pick a component from that list that you feel
comfortable working on, then contact its maintainer to say you'll be
working on triaging it, and ask if they have any tips or special
requests. Then read:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Tools
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/FindingBugs
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/How_to_Triage
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/FindingDuplicates
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/StockBugzillaResponses

As I said to Gabriel earlier, it's really not as bad as it looks.

Remember if you have any questions or problems, #fedora-bugzappers,
myself or any of the another team members should be able to help you out.
We have regular weekly meetings on Tuesdays at 15:00 UTC - if you have the time,
 and and would like to participate.

Edward (tk009)



From ryniker at alum.mit.edu  Thu Oct 29 02:32:54 2009
From: ryniker at alum.mit.edu (Richard Ryniker)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:32:54 -0400
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
In-Reply-To: <1256749715.2314.603.camel@adam.local.net> (awilliam@redhat.com)
References:  <4AE81994.9020508@hi.is>
	<1256749715.2314.603.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: 

Progress...

Changes to /etc/pulse/default.pa did not work; the modified file caused
pulseaudio to fail with messages like these in syslog:

  Oct 28 17:15:48 eee pulseaudio[1897]: module.c: Failed to open module "module-detect": file not found
  Oct 28 17:15:48 eee pulseaudio[1897]: main.c: Module load failed.
  Oct 28 17:15:48 eee pulseaudio[1897]: main.c: Failed to initialize daemon.
  Oct 28 17:15:48 eee pulseaudio[1895]: main.c: Daemon startup failed.

Returned to the original /etc/pulse/default.pa.

Restarting pulseaudio is a key step for success.

If I log in with the Bose USB audio device not connected, pulseaudio
starts as usual.  When the USB audio output device is connected, it is
visible in the output from "aplay -l":

  [ryniker at eee ~]$ aplay -l
  **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog]
    Subdevices: 1/1
    Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  card 1: Audio [Bose USB Audio], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
    Subdevices: 1/1
    Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  [ryniker at eee ~]$ 

but it is not shown in System->Preferences->Sound.

Execute "pulseaudio -k" to restart pulseaudio, then the Bose device
appears in the System->Preferences->Sound dialog, and it may be selected
as the output device.

Voila!  Sound from the Bose speakers.

I understand aplay should accept a -D argument to select a specific
output device, but none of the values I tried - even for the built-in
audio hardware - would be accepted.  For example:

  [ryniker at eee ~]$ aplay tingle.wav 
  Playing WAVE 'tingle.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
  [ryniker at eee ~]$ aplay -l
  **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog]
    Subdevices: 1/1
    Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  card 1: Audio [Bose USB Audio], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
    Subdevices: 1/1
    Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  [ryniker at eee ~]$ aplay -D hw:0,0 tingle.wav 
  Playing WAVE 'tingle.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
  aplay: set_params:979: Sample format non available
  [ryniker at eee ~]$ 

plays my test file (on the default sound output device), lists both
devices, but fails when asked to use an explicit device.  

If my sound preference output is the external device, and I unplug the
Bose USB device, sound output reverts to the built-in audio system.  If I
then reconnect the Bose device, sound output returns to it automatically.

If I log out, disconnect the Bose system, log in, the whole process
repeats.  When I plug in the Bose USB device, I must restart pulseaudio
in order to make the USB audio output choice in Preferences->Sound.

I doubt things are supposed to work this way, but I am happy to have a
way to work around the rough spots.  If more information is desired, I
shall be happy to run tests and supply it.

When the Bose USB audio device is connected, syslog captures this:

  Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
  Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=05a7, idProduct=1020
  Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
  Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: Product: Bose USB Audio
  Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Bose Corporation
  Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
  Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: generic-usb 0003:05A7:1020.0001: hiddev96,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device [Bose Corporation Bose USB Audio] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input2
  Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 2:1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1
  Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
  Oct 28 21:24:21 eee pulseaudio[1461]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
  Oct 28 21:24:21 eee pulseaudio[1461]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed

Last two lines repeated 4 times.

  Oct 28 21:24:22 eee pulseaudio[1461]: module-udev-detect.c: Tried to configure /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/sound/card1 (alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00) more often than 5 times in 10s

Every time my test file is played on the Bose device, syslog captures
another line like this:

  Oct 28 22:35:13 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 7:1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1

but the output sounds good.



From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 29 03:03:01 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:03:01 +0000
Subject: Fedora 11 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091029030301.4BD2D10F89A@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 11 updates-testing

    AntTweakBar-1.13-5.fc11
    abiword-2.8.0-2.fc11
    apr-1.3.9-2.fc11
    asterisk-1.6.1.8-1.fc11
    cups-1.4.1-7.fc11
    drpython-3.11.1-2.fc11
    gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-2.fc11
    gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-4.fc11
    hplip-3.9.8-16.fc11
    kmagnet-0.03-5.fc11
    netcdf-4.0.1-2.fc11
    netcf-0.1.3-1.fc11
    pdfresurrect-0.8-1.fc11
    perl-Nagios-NSCA-0.1-3.fc11
    python-repoze-what-1.0.8-4.fc11
    snake-0.11-0.19.fc11
    sssd-0.7.1-1.fc11
    system-config-printer-1.1.13-4.fc11
    totem-2.26.4-2.fc11
    trac-git-plugin-0.11.0.2-5.20091016svn6442.fc11
    trac-iniadmin-plugin-0.1-4.20091026svn6877.fc11

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 AntTweakBar-1.13-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10888)
 GUI library for videogame property editing UIs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New package.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530205 - Review Request: AntTweakBar - GUI library for videogame property editing UIs
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530205
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 abiword-2.8.0-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10873)
 The AbiWord word processor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This is a major update of AbiWord, adding support for Annotation/Comments, SVG
images, and more. It also integrates with the online http://AbiCollab.net/
collaboration service.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Marc Maurer  - 1:2.8.0-2
- Build with --enable-dynamic
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Marc Maurer  - 1:2.8.0-1
- New upstream release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 apr-1.3.9-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10886)
 Apache Portable Runtime library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Remove uuid/crypt libs form pkg-config file.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Bojan Smojver  - 1.3.9-2
- remove uuid/crypt libs from pkg-config file (#511522)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #511522 - FTBFS mod_dnssd-0.6-2.fc11
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511522
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 asterisk-1.6.1.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10861)
 The Open Source PBX
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.8-1  - Update to
1.6.1.8 to fix bug 531199:  -  -
http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/security/AST-2009-007.html  -  - A missing ACL
check for handling SIP INVITEs allows a device to make  - calls on networks
intended to be prohibited as defined by the "deny"  - and "permit" lines in
sip.conf. The ACL check for handling SIP  - registrations was not affected.
Other bugs were handled by previous updates, including them  here so that bodhi
will close them out.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.8-1
- Update to 1.6.1.8 to fix bug 531199:
-
- http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/security/AST-2009-007.html
-
- A missing ACL check for handling SIP INVITEs allows a device to make
- calls on networks intended to be prohibited as defined by the "deny"
- and "permit" lines in sip.conf. The ACL check for handling SIP
- registrations was not affected.
* Sat Oct 24 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.4.rc2
- Add an AST_EXTRA_ARGS option to the init script
- have the init script to cd to /var/spool/asterisk to prevent annoying message
* Sat Oct 24 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.3.rc2
- Compile against gmime 2.2 instead of gmime 2.4 because the patch to convert the API calls from 2.2 to 2.4 caused crashes.
* Fri Oct  9 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.2.rc2
- Require latex2html used in static-http documents
* Thu Oct  8 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.7-0.1.rc2
- Update to 1.6.1.7-rc2
- Merge firmware subpackage back into main package
- No longer need to strip tarball since it no longer contains any non-free items
- Tighten up permissions/ownership of config files.
- Fix up some more paths
- Drop unneeded patch
* Wed Sep  9 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 1.6.1.6-2
- Enable building of API docs.
- Depend on version 1.2 or newer of speex
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #531199 - asterisk: ACL not respected on SIP INVITE (AST-2009-007)
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531199
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 cups-1.4.1-7.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10891)
 Common Unix Printing System
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fixed admin.cgi crash when modifying a class. Fix cups-lpd to create unique
temporary data files. Pass through serial parameters correctly in web interface.
Set the PRINTER_IS_SHARED variable for admin.cgi Fix removing files with lprm.
Fixed German translation.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jiri Popelka  1:1.4.1-7
- Fix incorrectly applied patch from #STR3285 (bug #531108).
- Set the PRINTER_IS_SHARED variable for admin.cgi (bug #529634, #STR3390).
- Pass through serial parameters correctly in web interface (bug #529635, #STR3391).
- Fixed German translation (bug #531144, #STR3396).
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Jiri Popelka  1:1.4.1-6
- Fix cups-lpd to create unique temporary data files (bug #529838).
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Tim Waugh  1:1.4.1-5
- Fixed German translation (bug #529575, STR #3380).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #531108 - Error removing print file with: lprm
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531108
  [ 2 ] Bug #529634 - Web interface: 'Share this printer' always unchecked when modifying printer
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529634
  [ 3 ] Bug #529635 - Web interface: gets stuck modifying serial printer
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529635
  [ 4 ] Bug #531144 - typo in german cups translation
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531144
  [ 5 ] Bug #529838 - cups-lpd creates non-unique files
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529838
  [ 6 ] Bug #529575 - typo in german cups translation
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529575
  [ 7 ] Bug #519724 - admin.cgi crashes when modifying class
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519724
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 drpython-3.11.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10871)
 A simple Python IDE designed with teaching in mind
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release fixes a lot of bugs.  Fixes desktop file and adds another
category
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 27 2009 Marc Wiriadisastra  - 1:3.11.1-2
- Fix upgrade path cause I'm dumb
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Marc Wiriadisastra  - 3.11.1-1
- Fixed drpython desktop file which solves bz 487798
- New upstream release which fixes a lot of bugs refer to Changelog
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1:3.11.0-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #487798 - .desktop menu entry has wrong/missing categories
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487798
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10747)
 GStreamer streaming media framework base plug-ins
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix lowering volume when switching tracks in Totem or Rhythmbox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 27 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.25-2
- Fix audio disappearing with newer pulsesink
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #488532 - each time totem advances to next track volume goes down a bit
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488532
  [ 2 ] Bug #512090 - Totem volume slider weird behaviour - exponential effect in PulseAudio
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512090
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10747)
 GStreamer plug-ins with good code and licensing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix lowering volume when switching tracks in Totem or Rhythmbox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-4
- Fix pulsesink not advertising the StreamVolume interface
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-3
- Finally fix pulsesink volume lowering problems (#488532)
* Fri Oct 16 2009 Bastien Nocera  0.10.16-2
- Fix autoconvert caps negotiation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #488532 - each time totem advances to next track volume goes down a bit
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488532
  [ 2 ] Bug #512090 - Totem volume slider weird behaviour - exponential effect in PulseAudio
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512090
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 hplip-3.9.8-16.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10759)
 HP Linux Imaging and Printing Project
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Added parallel port support and fixed connection retry policy.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 28 2009 Tim Waugh  3.9.8-16
- Set a printer-state-reason when there's a missing required plugin
  (bug #531330).
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Tim Waugh  3.9.8-15
- Retry when connecting to device fails (bug #528483).
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Tim Waugh  3.9.8-14
- Give up trying to print a job to a reconnected device (bug #515481).
* Wed Sep 23 2009 Tim Waugh  3.9.8-13
- Enable parallel port support when configuring (bug #524979).
- Fixed hp-setup traceback when discovery page is skipped (bug #523685).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524979 - hplip does not support parallel port printers
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524979
  [ 2 ] Bug #528483 - Hplip does not resume printing when network printer comes online
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528483
  [ 3 ] Bug #531330 - Should set printer-state-reason for missing required plugin
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531330
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kmagnet-0.03-5.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10872)
 A simple puzzle game with a built-in puzzle editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New package kmagnet - a puzzle game with built in editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528096 - Review Request: kmagnet - KDE puzzle game with built in editor
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528096
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 netcdf-4.0.1-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10889)
 Libraries for the Unidata network Common Data Form
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

- Don't ship multi-lib incompatible nc-config  - Require gcc-gfortran for -devel
(bug #483469)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 27 2009 Orion Poplawski  - 4.0.1-2
- Don't ship multi-lib incompatible nc-config
- Require gcc-gfortran for -devel (bug #483469)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #483469 - netcdf : Unowned directories
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483469
  [ 2 ] Bug #530180 - info conflicts
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530180
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 netcf-0.1.3-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10894)
 Cross-platform network configuration library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

See http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/netcf.git?p=netcf.git;a=blob;f=NEWS;hb=HEAD
for a list of changes and bugfixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 27 2009 David Lutterkort  - 0.1.3-1
- New version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pdfresurrect-0.8-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10860)
 PDF Analysis and Scrubbing Utility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ver. 0.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 28 2009 Peter Lemenkov  0.8-1
- Ver. 0.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 perl-Nagios-NSCA-0.1-3.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10882)
 Nagios::NSCA Perl module
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

First release of perl nagios nsca. Gives a perl API for submitting nagios
results via perl API avoiding the command line client.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #524896 - Review Request: perl-Nagios-NSCA - Perl client for Nagios - NSCA.
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524896
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 python-repoze-what-1.0.8-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10875)
 Authorization for WSGI applications
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Pulls in the necessary python-repoze-who-testutil package
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Luke Macken  - 1.0.8-4
- Require python-repoze-who-testutil
* Mon Aug 10 2009 Luke Macken  - 1.0.8-3
- Get the test suite working
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 snake-0.11-0.19.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10865)
 Smart Network Automated Kickstart Environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 James Laska  0.11-0.19  - Correct
install.py typo, use subprocess.call to gather arguments (wwoods)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 James Laska  0.11-0.19
- Correct install.py typo, use subprocess.call to gather arguments (wwoods)
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Milos Jakubicek  - 0.11-0.18
- Fix FTBFS: bump release to be able to tag in new branch
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.11-0.17
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 sssd-0.7.1-1.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10876)
 System Security Services Daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

 * Fix segfault when using cached credentials for offline auth * Fix upgrade
issue where id_provider was not generated for domain/LOCAL * Fix upgrade issue
where the retired data provider service was not removed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 27 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.7.1-1
- Fix segfault in sssd_pam when cache_credentials was enabled
- Update the sample configuration
- Fix upgrade issues caused by data provider service removal
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.7.0-2
- Fix upgrade issues from old (pre-0.5.0) releases of SSSD
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.7.0-1
- New upstream release 0.7.0
* Thu Oct 15 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.6.1-2
- Fix missing file permissions for sssd-clients
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.6.1-1
- Add SSSDConfig API
- Update polish translation for 0.6.0
- Fix long timeout on ldap operation
- Make dp requests more robust
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.6.0-1
- Ensure that the configuration upgrade script always writes the config
  file with 0600 permissions
- Eliminate an infinite loop in group enumerations
* Mon Sep 28 2009 Sumit Bose  - 0.6.0-0
- New upstream release 0.6.0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530949 - ERROR: No option 'id_provider' in section: 'domain/LOCAL'
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530949
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 system-config-printer-1.1.13-4.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10893)
 A printer administration tool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

This update fixes some UI problems and an issue with troubleshooting network
printers.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 28 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.13-4
- Troubleshoot: connect to the right server when choosing a network
  queue (bug #531482).
- Strip 'zxs' and 'pcl3' from make-and-model (bug #531048).
- Fixed visibility tracking for jobs window (bug #531438).
- Don't display properties dialog for first test page (bug #531490).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #531048 - Should strip 'pcl3' and 'zxs' from model name
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531048
  [ 2 ] Bug #531438 - Job window visibility tracking bug
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531438
  [ 3 ] Bug #531482 - Troubleshooter fails to get network CUPS printer list
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531482
  [ 4 ] Bug #531490 - Should not show properties page for first test page
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531490
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 totem-2.26.4-2.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10747)
 Movie player for GNOME
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Fix lowering volume when switching tracks in Totem or Rhythmbox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.26.4-2
- Update pulsesink patch to use cubic volumes (#512090)
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.26.4-1
- Update to 2.26.4
* Mon Oct 19 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.26.3-7
- Update pulsesink patch to use bicubic volumes (#512090)
* Sat Oct  3 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.26.3-6
- Fix YouTube plugin URLs (#521725)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #488532 - each time totem advances to next track volume goes down a bit
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488532
  [ 2 ] Bug #512090 - Totem volume slider weird behaviour - exponential effect in PulseAudio
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512090
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 trac-git-plugin-0.11.0.2-5.20091016svn6442.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10880)
 GIT version control plugin for Trac
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

contains some fixes required for properly using the Bitten continuous
integration plugin for Trac.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Fri Oct 16 2009 Tim Niemueller  - 0.11.0.2-5.20091016svn6442
- Update to latest trunk version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529426 - Upgrade trac-git-plugin to latest svn revision 6442
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529426
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 trac-iniadmin-plugin-0.1-4.20091026svn6877.fc11 (FEDORA-2009-10867)
 Expose all TracIni options using the Trac 0.11 config option API
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Update to work with Trac 0.11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Jesse Keating  - 0.1-4.20091026svn3915
- Update for 0.11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #530761 - Trac IniAdmin plugin not recognized
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530761
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From updates at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 29 03:03:01 2009
From: updates at fedoraproject.org (updates at fedoraproject.org)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:03:01 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 updates-testing report
Message-ID: <20091029030301.5246410F89C@bastion2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 10 updates-testing

    apr-1.3.9-2.fc10
    drpython-3.11.1-2.fc10
    gtk2-2.14.7-9.fc10
    kmagnet-0.03-5.fc10
    netcf-0.1.3-1.fc10
    pdfresurrect-0.8-1.fc10
    snake-0.11-0.19.fc10

Details about builds:


================================================================================
 apr-1.3.9-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10890)
 Apache Portable Runtime library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Remove uuid/crypt libs form pkg-config file.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Bojan Smojver  - 1.3.9-2
- remove uuid/crypt libs from pkg-config file (#511522)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #511522 - FTBFS mod_dnssd-0.6-2.fc11
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511522
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 drpython-3.11.1-2.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10883)
 A simple Python IDE designed with teaching in mind
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New upstream release fixes a lot of bugs.  Fixes desktop file and adds another
category
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 27 2009 Marc Wiriadisastra  - 1:3.11.1-2
- Fix upgrade path cause I'm dumb
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Marc Wiriadisastra  - 3.11.1-1
- Fixed drpython desktop file which solves bz 487798
- New upstream release which fixes a lot of bugs refer to Changelog
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1:3.11.0-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Jun 13 2009 Marc Wiriadisastra  - 1:3.11.0-5
- Fixed the drpython bin file to look for python instead of hard coding the python location
* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1:3.11.0-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Nov 29 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams  - 1:3.11.0-3
- Rebuild for Python 2.6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #487798 - .desktop menu entry has wrong/missing categories
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487798
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 gtk2-2.14.7-9.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10874)
 The GIMP ToolKit (GTK+), a library for creating GUIs for X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 28 2009 Marek Kasik  - 2.14.7-9
- Remove handling of "connecting-to-device" reason (#529364)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #529364 - Print dialog can show alarming 'May not be connected' message in error
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529364
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 kmagnet-0.03-5.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10864)
 A simple puzzle game with a built-in puzzle editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

New package kmagnet - a puzzle game with built in editor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #528096 - Review Request: kmagnet - KDE puzzle game with built in editor
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528096
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 netcf-0.1.3-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10884)
 Cross-platform network configuration library
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

See http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/netcf.git?p=netcf.git;a=blob;f=NEWS;hb=HEAD
for a list of changes and bugfixes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 27 2009 David Lutterkort  - 0.1.3-1
- New version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 pdfresurrect-0.8-1.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10868)
 PDF Analysis and Scrubbing Utility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

Ver. 0.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Wed Oct 28 2009 Peter Lemenkov  0.8-1
- Ver. 0.8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================================================================================
 snake-0.11-0.19.fc10 (FEDORA-2009-10863)
 Smart Network Automated Kickstart Environment
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update Information:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 James Laska  0.11-0.19  - Correct
install.py typo, use subprocess.call to gather arguments (wwoods)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ChangeLog:

* Mon Oct 26 2009 James Laska  0.11-0.19
- Correct install.py typo, use subprocess.call to gather arguments (wwoods)
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Milos Jakubicek  - 0.11-0.18
- Fix FTBFS: bump release to be able to tag in new branch
* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 0.11-0.17
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Oct 29 04:47:29 2009
From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:47:29 -0600
Subject: Fedora 12 beta issues
In-Reply-To: <20091028182012.GA26070@redhat.com>
References: <4AE7A4E2.5020702@yahoo.co.uk> <20091028182012.GA26070@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4AE91E61.5020405@yahoo.co.uk>

On 28/10/09 12:20 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 07:56:50PM -0600, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote:
>  
>  > 1. Install log shows the following issues (or potential issues):
>  > 
>  > Installing kernel-PAE-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686
>  > W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
>  > W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko
>  
> This one is already in bugzilla, and may even already be fixed in
> a newer dracut.
>
> 	Dave
>   

I updated to (from koji):

kernel-PAE-2.6.31.5-104.fc12.i686.rpm
kernel-firmware-2.6.31.5-104.fc12.noarch.rpm

...and still see this behaviour.

-- 
thufor






From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Oct 29 04:50:57 2009
From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:50:57 -0600
Subject: Fedora 12 beta issues
In-Reply-To: <1256709632.2314.598.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4AE7A4E2.5020702@yahoo.co.uk>
	<1256709632.2314.598.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AE91F31.3050503@yahoo.co.uk>

On 28/10/09 12:00 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 19:56 -0600, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote:
>
>> 2. Dailymotion videos are terribly slow -- look like a slideshow (2fps?)
>> Whole system slows down to a crawl when playing video (HTML5 tag, not 
>> flash), even typing in terminal feels like '97 over ssh.
>>
>>
>> top - 08:52:18 up  9:29,  4 users,  load average: 0.29, 0.20, 0.24
>> Tasks: 188 total,   2 running, 186 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
>> Cpu0  : 55.3%us,  1.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 43.3%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
>> 0.0%st
>> Cpu1  :  2.7%us,  0.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 96.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
>> 0.0%st
>> Cpu2  : 33.0%us,  0.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 66.3%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
>> 0.0%st
>> Cpu3  : 11.5%us,  1.4%sy,  0.0%ni, 87.1%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
>> 0.0%st
>> Mem:   8263400k total,  3142540k used,  5120860k free,   300608k buffers
>> Swap:  8409988k total,        0k used,  8409988k free,  2194328k cached
>>
>>    PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
>>   1519 root      20   0  126m  63m 6012 R 99.4  0.8  10:02.00 Xorg
>>   1981 thufor    20   0  607m 127m  24m S  6.0  1.6   1:40.89 firefox
>>   2008 thufor     9 -11  184m 5024 3996 S  0.7  0.1   0:02.80 pulseaudio
>>   1884 thufor    20   0  116m  23m  14m S  0.3  0.3   0:04.33 konsole
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 3. Anaconda/First boot -- sees the screen size as if it was total of two 
>> displays but uses only one of them (b -- see hardware above), hence the 
>> some information and buttons are invisible (displayed off screen). I can 
>> provide photos of what it looks like.
>>
>>
>> 4. KDE: Display settings: change display resolution works incorrectly -- 
>> can?t move screen position vs. the other screen. I changed screen (a) 
>> from 1280x1024 -> 1600x1200 and got screen overlap -- whatever is 
>> displayed in the middle, is showing up "partial clone" on both screens.
>>
>>
>> 5. KDE: Colors are all over the place -- parts of UI change colors as 
>> they please: to purple, green, blue, black, etc. without reason. Random 
>> "destruction" patterns show up on UI elements.
>
> For all of the above, can you try a) updating to kernel 96 or 97 from
> Rawhide or Koji, and b) booting with nomodeset parameter, and see how
> those affect them?
kernel-PAE-2.6.31.5-104.fc12.i686.rpm did not really help much.
nomodeset helps a lot with colour artifacts in KDE (all gone, 5. is shot 
down), performance is great (better than without nomodeset), also when 
playing Dailymotion videos (2. shot as well).
I haven't yet tested Anaconda issue (3.).
KDE Display settings is simply missing functionality (can't move screen 
positions, so 4. is still an issue).

>> 8. glxgears works but with horizontal lines of random rubbish. I havent 
>> tried mesa-dri-drivers-experimental yet...
>
> Without mesa-dri-drivers-experimental you're not getting any hardware
> 3D. But it's not expected to work great on r700 yet anyway.
>

The mesa-dri-drivers-experimental makes 3D work quite well!

- glxgears -- no more artifacts
- desktop effects in KWin work (most of them, some can't be enabled) but 
with nomodeset desktop effects don't work anymore
- OpenGL screensavers work without artifacts

>> 9. Pulseaudio generally works -- I'm happy that digital optical out 
>> works! Pavucontrol (not installed by default?) crashes when I choose 
>> "Pulseaudio server" in KDE multimedia settings.
>
> Don't know about KDE, but pavucontrol is no longer installed by default
> because gnome-volume-control should cover what's needed. KDE still
> doesn't have a real great PA mixer AFAIK.
I installed pavucontrol and so far it does the job :-)

I found two other issues.


10. Ethernet network interface (cable) doesn't get up during boot even 
though it's configured as not managed by NM. I have to bring it up manually.
    This network interface doesn't start on boot:

# 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone]
DEVICE=eth1
HWADDR=00:10:4B:7A:65:73
ONBOOT=yes
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
TYPE=Ethernet
IPV6INIT=no
USERCTL=no
NM_CONTROLLED=no
PEERDNS=yes



11. Cheese uses 150% CPU when recording a movie from webcam! Recorded 
video is choppy, like 1-2 fps... Monitoring camera view works smoothly, 
it only happens when recording.

top - 21:28:06 up 38 min,  4 users,  load average: 0.79, 0.36, 0.30
Tasks: 195 total,  1 running, 194 sleeping,  0 stopped,  0 zombie
Cpu0  : 15.7%us,  0.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 84.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  
0.0%st
Cpu1  : 11.2%us,  0.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 88.2%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.3%si,  
0.0%st
Cpu2  : 24.5%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 75.5%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  
0.0%st
Cpu3  : 75.2%us, 24.1%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  
0.0%st
Mem:  8263400k total,  1685968k used,  6577432k free,    78604k buffers
Swap:  8409988k total,        0k used,  8409988k free,  1021984k cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
3845 thufor    20  0  532m  37m  24m S 150.9  0.5  2:08.35 cheese
1579 root      20  0  765m 170m 9256 S  0.7  2.1  4:53.86 Xorg


-- 
thufor






From christoph.frieben at googlemail.com  Thu Oct 29 08:07:26 2009
From: christoph.frieben at googlemail.com (Christoph Frieben)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:07:26 +0100
Subject: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout
In-Reply-To: <1256757227.4ae897eb252c3@secure.prioris.net>
References: <1256715326.1884.20.camel@R500>
	
	
	<1256753565.2314.612.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256757227.4ae897eb252c3@secure.prioris.net>
Message-ID: 

2009/10/28 Birger Wathne:
> I reinstalled my test system today.
>
> Boot from live cd
> Selected Norwegian layout at login

A possible difference to my own procedure is myself having selected
the local variant for -both- system language -and- keyboard layout. ~C



From christoph.frieben at googlemail.com  Thu Oct 29 08:11:31 2009
From: christoph.frieben at googlemail.com (Christoph Frieben)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:11:31 +0100
Subject: Fedora 12 beta issues
In-Reply-To: <4AE91F31.3050503@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <4AE7A4E2.5020702@yahoo.co.uk>
	<1256709632.2314.598.camel@adam.local.net>
	<4AE91F31.3050503@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

2009/10/29 Dariusz J. Garbowski :
> 10. Ethernet network interface (cable) doesn't get up during boot even
> though it's configured as not managed by NM. I have to bring it up manually.
> ? This network interface doesn't start on boot:
>
> # 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone]
> DEVICE=eth1
> HWADDR=00:10:4B:7A:65:73
> ONBOOT=yes
> BOOTPROTO=dhcp
> TYPE=Ethernet
> IPV6INIT=no
> USERCTL=no
> NM_CONTROLLED=no
> PEERDNS=yes

That's what you expect unless you enable service "network" and disable
service "NetworkManager". In case NM is enabled you would have to set
NM_CONTROLLED=yes in addition to ONBOOT=yes to get network
connectivity already during the boot procedure.



From mschwendt at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 08:40:45 2009
From: mschwendt at gmail.com (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:40:45 -0000
Subject: Broken dependencies with Fedora 11 updates-testing - 2009-10-29
Message-ID: <20091029084045.5033.92022@faldor.intranet>

======================================================================
The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
======================================================================

Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name):

    asterisk
    autotrust
    libsvm
    netcdf
    oorexx
    openmpi
    pyabiword
    R-RScaLAPACK




======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-i386:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.i586  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.i586  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11
    pyabiword-0.6.3-1.fc11.i586  requires  libabiword-2.6.so


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11
    pyabiword-0.6.3-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libabiword-2.6.so


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-ppc64:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.ppc64  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    libsvm-java-2.89-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libsvm = 0:2.89-1.fc11
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11
    pyabiword-0.6.3-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libabiword-2.6.so()(64bit)


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-11-x86_64:

    R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.x86_64  requires  openmpi-libs
    asterisk-mobile-1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1-0.23.rc1.fc11
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexx.so.3
    oorexx-3.2.0-4.fc9.i386  requires  librexxapi.so.3
    openmpi-vt-1.3.1-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  openmpi-libs = 0:1.3.1-1.fc11
    pyabiword-0.6.3-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  libabiword-2.6.so()(64bit)


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-i386:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.i586  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.ppc  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-ppc64:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-11-x86_64:

    asterisk-firmware-1.6.1.6-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  asterisk = 0:1.6.1.6-1.fc11


======================================================================
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    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.i586  requires  libunbound.so.0


======================================================================
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    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.ppc  requires  libunbound.so.0
    netcdf-devel-4.0.1-2.fc11.ppc64  requires  gcc-gfortran(ppc-64)


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-ppc64:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.ppc64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)


======================================================================
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-11-x86_64:

    autotrust-0.3.1-1.fc11.x86_64  requires  libunbound.so.0()(64bit)
    netcdf-devel-4.0.1-2.fc11.i586  requires  gcc-gfortran(x86-32)



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Thu Oct 29 08:00:21 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:00:21 +0200
Subject: Bug zapper priorities [was Re: theora screencasting not working
 in F12]
In-Reply-To: <1256753502.2314.611.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <2068886238.239631256643507351.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>	<1074085050.240021256644018169.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>		<1256660790.2447.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<4AE739D5.6090300@hi.is>	<1256672546.2447.65.camel@localhost.localdomain>		<1256690201.2314.591.camel@adam.local.net>	<4AE7E7A2.7060404@shmuelhome.mine.nu>	<1256712948.2314.599.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256753502.2314.611.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AE94B95.9040306@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 23:55 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>   
>> The installer itself is on the list. If anaconda really does run the
>> packaged version of gparted - or use libparted, I guess - then it should
>> be added to the list, yeah. I'll check with the anaconda team, thanks.
>>     
>
> clumens tells me the installer does not use gparted, but does use
> libparted and pyparted to some extent. So we should put that on the
> triage components list. I'll bring it up at the next Bugzappers meeting.
> Thanks.
>
>   
Any package that is primarily a wrapper for these packages, and maybe 
fdisk, should also be on the triage component list since the reporter 
wouldn't know that the problem is in the underlying software.



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 29 11:06:43 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:06:43 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091029 changes
Message-ID: <20091029110643.GA26271@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Thu Oct 29 06:15:07 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	banshee-1.5.1-3.fc12.i686 requires mono(Mono.Zeroconf) = 0:4.0.0.90
	blam-1.8.5-18.fc12.i686 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.1.3
	galeon-2.0.7-16.fc12.i686 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.1.3
	1:nant-0.85-30.fc12.i686 requires mono(NDoc.Core) = 0:1.3.3498.0



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	banshee-1.5.1-3.fc12.i686 requires mono(Mono.Zeroconf) = 0:4.0.0.90
	banshee-1.5.1-3.fc12.x86_64 requires mono(Mono.Zeroconf) = 0:4.0.0.90
	blam-1.8.5-18.fc12.x86_64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.1.3
	galeon-2.0.7-16.fc12.x86_64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.1.3
	1:nant-0.85-30.fc12.x86_64 requires mono(NDoc.Core) = 0:1.3.3498.0



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	banshee-1.5.1-3.fc12.ppc requires mono(Mono.Zeroconf) = 0:4.0.0.90
	banshee-1.5.1-3.fc12.ppc64 requires mono(Mono.Zeroconf) = 0:4.0.0.90
	blam-1.8.5-18.fc12.ppc requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.1.3
	galeon-2.0.7-16.fc12.ppc requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.1.3



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	banshee-1.5.1-3.fc12.ppc64 requires mono(Mono.Zeroconf) = 0:4.0.0.90
	galeon-2.0.7-16.fc12.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.1.3
	python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



New package gnome-globalmenu
        Global Menu for GNOME
Updated Packages:

DeviceKit-power-012-2.fc12
--------------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 012-2
- Make hibernate work again


anaconda-12.41-1.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Chris Lumens  - 12.40-1
- preexist -> onPart (#531407). (clumens)
- Support upgrading when the language isn't in lang-table (#528317).
  (clumens)
- max_logical -> max_logicals (#530786). (clumens)
- We moved from dialog to newt.. (#528497) (msivak)

* Wed Oct 28 2009 David Cantrell  - 12.41-1
- BR system-config-keyboard (dcantrell)


apr-1.3.9-3.fc12
----------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Bojan Smojver  - 1.3.9-3
- remove uuid/crypt libs from pkg-config file


banshee-1.5.1-3.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 1.5.1-3
- Rebuild against new mono-zeroconf (#526132)

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.5.1-2
- ExcludeArch sparc64

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Michel Salim  - 1.5.1-1
- Update to final 1.5.1 release


banshee-mirage-0.5.0-5.fc12
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.5.0-5
- switch to ExcludeArch, excluding sparc64


bareftp-0.2.3-4.fc12
--------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.2.3-4
- Exclude sparc64 no mono available


beagle-0.3.9-15.fc12
--------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.3.9-15
- enable s390 and s390x


blam-1.8.5-18.fc12
------------------

bless-0.6.0-5.fc12
------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.6.0-5
- ExckudeArch sparc64


bzr-2.0.1-1.fc12
----------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Henrik Nordstrom  - 2.0.1-1
- Update to 2.0.1 bugfix release


cdcollect-0.6.0-10.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.6.0-10
- ExcludeArch sparc64  no mono there


chronojump-0.8.11-3.fc12
------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.8.11-3
- ExcludeArch sparc64.  no mono available


clutter-sharp-0-0.6.20090828.fc12
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0-0.6.20090828
- ExcludeArch sparc64


constantine-kde-theme-12.1.0-1.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Jaroslav Reznik  12.1.0-1
- Constantine Smile KSplash Theme
- Constantine Loadme! login screen Theme


cowbell-0.3-0.svn47.1.fc12.4
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.3.0-0.svn47.1.4
- ExcludeArch sparc64 no mono


cups-1.4.1-12.fc12
------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jiri Popelka  1:1.4.1-12
- Fix incorrectly applied patch from #STR3285 (bug #531108).
- Set the PRINTER_IS_SHARED variable for admin.cgi (bug #529634, #STR3390).
- Pass through serial parameters correctly in web interface (bug #529635, #STR3391).
- Fixed German translation (bug #531144, #STR3396).

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Jiri Popelka  1:1.4.1-11
- Fix cups-lpd to create unique temporary data files (bug #529838).


dbus-sharp-0.63-14.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.63-14
- ExcludeArch sparc64


evolution-sharp-0.21.1-5.fc12
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  0.20.1-5
- ExcludeArch sparc64


f-spot-0.6.1.3-2.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.6.1.3-2
- ExcludeArch sparc64


fedora-logos-12.0.2-2.fc12
--------------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 12.0.2-1
- Update to 12.0.2, has improved system-software-install icon

* Wed Oct 28 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 12.0.2-2
- Fixed 12.0.2 source, package up scalable svg source for system-software-install icon


flickrnet-2.2-3.fc12
--------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.2-3
- enable sparcv9 s390 s390x


fluidsynth-1.0.9-4.fc12
-----------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Orcan Ogetbil  - 1.0.9-4
- Fix doxygen doc multilib conflict (RHBZ#528240)


gbrainy-1.1-6.fc12
------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.1-6
- Exclude sparc64


gecko-sharp2-0.13-13.fc12
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.13-13
- ExcludeArch sparc64


gmime-2.4.7-3.fc12
------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.4.7-3
- build mono support on s390 and s390x
- exclude mono support on sparc64


gnome-desktop-sharp-2.26.0-5.fc12
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.26.0-5
- Exclude sparc64


gnome-do-0.8.2-3.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.8.2-3
- Exclude sparc64  no mono available


gnome-guitar-0.8.1-7.fc12
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.8.1-7
- ExcludeArch sparc64


gnome-rdp-0.2.3-6.fc12
----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.2.3-6
- exclude sparc64


gnome-settings-daemon-2.28.1-5.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-5
- Update OSD code again

* Tue Oct 27 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-4
- Fix bluriness in OSD


gnome-sharp-2.24.0-7.fc12
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.24.0-7
- build sparcv9


gnome-subtitles-0.8-10.fc12
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.8-10
- ExcludeArch sparc64


gsf-sharp-0.8.1-12.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.8.1-12
- exclude sparc64


gtk-sharp-1.0.10-25.fc12
------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.0.10-25
- ExcludeArch sparc64


gtk2-2.18.3-15.fc12
-------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.3-14
- Make the new tooltips sharp
- Improve the Metacity compositor workaround for new tooltips

* Wed Oct 28 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.3-15
- Work around a bug in the X automatic compositor (#531443)

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.18.3-12
- Fix a possible assertion failure in GtkToolButton


gtksourceview-sharp-2.0.12-10.fc12
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.0.12-10
- switch sparc to sparcv9 for arches


gtksourceview2-sharp-1.0-6.svn89788.fc12
----------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.0-6.svn89788
- ExcludeArch sparc64


ipod-sharp-0.8.2-2.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.8.2-2
- ExcludeArch sparc64


jack-audio-connection-kit-0.116.1-7.fc12
----------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.116.1-7
- dont build libfreebob support on s390 arches


lat-1.2.3-9.fc12
----------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.2.3-9
- remove fedora 5 conditionals
- ExcldeArch sparc64


libpcap-1.0.0-4.20090922gite154e2.fc12
--------------------------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Dennis Gilmore  14:1.0.0-4.20090922gite154e2
- use -fPIC on sparc arches


log4net-1.2.10-8.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.2.10-8
- Exclude sparc64  no mono


metacity-2.28.0-6.fc12
----------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-6
- Make tooltips look sharper

* Wed Oct 21 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.0-4
- Make tooltips look match GTK+


mod_mono-2.4.2-3.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.4.2-3
- excludeArch sparc64


mono-addins-0.4-9.20091702svn127062.fc12
----------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.4-9.20091702svn127062
- exclude sparc64


mono-basic-2.4.2-4.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.4.2-4
- ExcludeArch sparc64


mono-cecil-flowanalysis-0.1-0.10.20080409svn100264.fc12
-------------------------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.1-0.10.20080409svn100264
- ExcludeArch sparc64


mono-nat-1.0.2-3.fc12
---------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.0.2-3
- ExcludeArch sparc64


mono-ndoc-1.3.1-7.fc12
----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.3.1-7
- ExcludeArch sparc64 no mono available


mono-sharpcvslib-0.35-12.fc12
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.35-12
- ExcludeArch sparc64


mono-tools-2.4.2-6.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.4.2-6
- exclude sparc64


mono-zeroconf-0.7.6-11.fc12
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.7.6-11
- ExcludeArch sparc64


monotorrent-0.72-5.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.72-5
- exclude sparc64


monsoon-0.21-3.fc12
-------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.21-3
- exclude sparc64


muine-0.8.11-3.fc12
-------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.8.11-3
- exclude sparc64  no mono


mxml-2.5-5.fc12
---------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Orcan Ogetbil  - 2.5-5
- Fix typo in the .pc file (RHBZ#503628). Patch by Robert Szalai


mysql-5.1.39-4.fc12
-------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Tom Lane  5.1.39-4
- Replace kluge fix for ndbd sparc crash with a real fix (mysql bug 48132)


ndesk-dbus-0.6.1a-8.fc12
------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.6.1a-8
- ExcludeArch sparc64


ndesk-dbus-glib-0.4.1-8.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.4.1-8
- ExcludeArch sparc64


notify-sharp-0.4.0-0.10.20080912svn.fc12
----------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.4.0-0.10.20080912svn
- Switch to ExcludeArch sparc64 has no mono


nspr-4.8.2-1.fc12
-----------------
* Tue Oct 13 2009 Kai Engert  - 4.8.2-1
- update to 4.8.2


pygpgme-0.1-17.20090824bzr68.fc12
---------------------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Toshio Kuratomi  - 0.1-17.20090824bzr68
- Include tests and examples as documentation.


snort-2.8.5.1-1.fc12
--------------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.8.5.1-1
- update for CVE-2009-3641


sublib-0.9-6.fc12
-----------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.9-6
- disable for sparc64  no mono


taglib-sharp-2.0.3.2-5.fc12
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.0.3.2-5
- switch sparc to sparcv9


tanukiwrapper-3.2.3-5.fc12
--------------------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0:3.2.3-5
- add patch with sparc support


tomboy-1.0.0-2.fc12
-------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.0.0-2
- exclude sparc64  no mono available


webkit-sharp-0.2-6.fc12
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 0.2-6
- build for sparcv9 s390 s390x


xsp-2.4.2-3.fc12
----------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 2.4.2-3
- enable sparcv9 s390 s390x


Summary:
Added Packages: 1
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 69



From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 11:17:12 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:17:12 +1100
Subject: HP network printer not working with SELinux in enforcing mode
In-Reply-To: <4AE87AF6.8000504@redhat.com>
References: 
	<4AE87AF6.8000504@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Daniel J Walsh  wrote:

> Masood please update to the latest Rawhide policy.
> selinux-policy-3.6.32-35.fc12.noarch
>
>
I just updated to version 3.6.32-35 and the it solved some but I still get
the following:

SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp "name_bind" access.
SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "name_bind"
access. [hpcups has a permissive type (cupsd_t). This access was not
denied.]

Regards,
Masood
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From no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org  Thu Oct 29 11:34:02 2009
From: no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org (=?UTF-8?B?c3BvZmZsZXk=?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:34:02 +0100
Subject: Audio CDs, Bug 513495 and Devicekit-disks
Message-ID: <8b943f1c01b406f788c0d795cdbeb8f0@fcp.surfsite.org>

After many months a problem detected in F11 regarding mounting of Audio CDs and raised as bug 513495, was finally fixed in Devicekit-disks-004-5.  On Rawhide we are up to Devicekit-disks-008-1 and the problem still exists as the fix has not so far been ported to Rawhide I guess.  I would hope that the fix will make it over prior to F12 release otherwise a lot of people are going to get very upset when they find out that a problem raised 4 months ago has suddenly reappeared when they upgrade to F12.  Playing Audio CDs on a computer is a pretty fundamental operation these days and it should be expected under any operating system


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From brunojcm at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 11:34:53 2009
From: brunojcm at gmail.com (Bruno Medeiros)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:34:53 -0200
Subject: [Test-Announce] I18n Test Day Thursday 2009-10-29
In-Reply-To: <4AE8228D.9080604@redhat.com>
References: <4AE8228D.9080604@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Hi all!

As brazillian people has been saiyng for a long time, the bug
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505100 should be a fedora 12
i18n blocker. It's a big usabitily problem for brazilian people not having
the ' + c mapped to ? by default.

Sorry for reply the email, but it's really important for fedora 12 i18n and
i can't stay at the metting.

Thanks,

Bruno Medeiros
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From twaugh at redhat.com  Thu Oct 29 12:50:08 2009
From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:50:08 +0000
Subject: HP network printer not working with SELinux in enforcing mode
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<4AE87AF6.8000504@redhat.com>
	
Message-ID: <1256820608.2447.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 22:17 +1100, Masood wrote:

> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp "name_bind" access.
> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "name_bind"
> access. [hpcups has a permissive type (cupsd_t). This access was not
> denied.]

Please file a bug against the 'hplip' component including as much detail
as you can about these (are there complete AVC messages for them?).

Thanks,
Tim.
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From pknirsch at redhat.com  Thu Oct 29 13:40:29 2009
From: pknirsch at redhat.com (Phil Knirsch)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:40:29 +0100
Subject: 2009-10-22 - Power Management Test Day report
Message-ID: <4AE99B4D.3060002@redhat.com>

Here a short report from the Power Management Fedora Test day on 
10/22/09 [1]. First of all many thanks to all the people who 
participated in it and who reported their findings. In order to make 
things easier for testers and to make sure we get a lot more stable and 
comparable results Marcela Maslanova, Jan Vcelak and Petr Lautrbach put 
together a rpm that consisted of all our test scripts, an easy 
call-script to easily run them and a "collect" script to pack together 
all results. Additionally the rpm itself has requirements against all 
the packages we needed for the tests, so a simple installation of the 
testday rpm provided a solid and easy method for every tester. This 
worked out really well and made test results very consistent. 
Unfortunately time ran out for including the automatic upload script 
from Mike McGrath and the ALPM test script, but that didn't seem to pose 
a big problem, roughly half of the testers provided results for ALPM as 
well.

We got 30 results overall with half of them including ALPM test results, 
too. Overall the results showed us what we wanted to know:

  - The tools we're shipping are working as expected, no crashes or 
anything like that observed
  - Wakeups and system behavior in genereral in comparison to our Fedora 
11 test day doesn't show any regressions
  - New features seem to be working as expected

Rudolf Kastel discovered one strange bug with one of the profiles which 
we couldn't reproduce yet, but we're still investigating with him.

All in all the whole test day was a real success. Especially the great 
idea of Marcela, Jan and Petr to make a rpm for the testday which 
automated a lot of the work that needed to be done.

For the next testday we already plan to expand that idea and include the 
automated upload script which will make it even easier for the testers.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-22

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From masoodbeh at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 14:18:01 2009
From: masoodbeh at gmail.com (Masood)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:18:01 +1100
Subject: HP network printer not working with SELinux in enforcing mode
In-Reply-To: <1256820608.2447.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: 
	<4AE87AF6.8000504@redhat.com>
	
	<1256820608.2447.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: 

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Tim Waugh  wrote:

> Please file a bug against the 'hplip' component including as much detail
> as you can about these (are there complete AVC messages for them?).
>

Thanks Tim for the suggestion, but when I wanted to file the bug I saw a
similar bug 531726
closed today with
a comment by Daniel that it's fixed in 3.6.32-36. So, I
will look into this again after that version showed up on rawhide repo.

Regards,
Masood
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From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 14:31:17 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:31:17 -0400
Subject: [Announcement]Bug Triage Event 2009-10-30 @ 1600-2000 UTC
	(1200-1600 hours EDT)
Message-ID: <20091029143117.GD2447@blackhare>

When: Friday, 2009-10-30 @ 16:00-20:00 UTC (1200-1600 hours EDT)
Where: #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net
F-12 Blocker Meeting may still be in session (more than likely) in 
#fedora-bugzappers, so we will be gathering in #fedora-qa.

The Bug Zappers will be holding a bug triage event this Friday (tomorrow) and 
would like to invite any and all that are interested in lending a hand to join 
us.
Our goal for this event is to review and triage Fedora 10 bug reports still in 
the status of 'NEW' with the aim of confirming and re-versioning or closing 
where appropriate. This is an effort to put 'eyes' on these reports before EOL 
(End Of Life) changes close them.

whether your just curious about the triage process or have questions and would 
like to learn more. This is an opportunity to do so.
Maybe you like help filing a bug report? We're happy to help.

Everyone is welcome!

I hope to see you there
Edward (tk009)



From schaiba at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 15:38:00 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:38:00 +0200
Subject: Athlon 64 UP CPU -- no frequency scaling support?
Message-ID: <4AE9B6D8.5090503@gmail.com>

The cpufreq-* modules are loaded, I tried both available Fedora kernels 
(2.6.31.5-96.fc12.x86_64 and
  2.6.31.1-56.fc12.x86_64, acpitool --cpu says :

CPU type               : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
   CPU speed              : 2400.392 MHz
   Cache size             : 512 KB
   Bogomips               : 4800.78
   Processor ID           : 0
   Bus mastering control  : yes
   Power management       : no
   Throttling control     : no
   Limit interface        : no
   Active C-state         : C0
   C-states (incl. C0)    : 0

But...in works in $OTHER_DISTRO and /proc/cpuinfo says

processor    : 0
vendor_id    : AuthenticAMD
cpu family    : 15
model        : 95
model name    : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
stepping    : 2
cpu MHz        : 2400.392
cache size    : 512 KB
fpu        : yes
fpu_exception    : yes
cpuid level    : 1
wp        : yes
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 
3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm svm extapic 
cr8_legacy
bogomips    : 4800.78
TLB size    : 1024 4K pages
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment    : 64
address sizes    : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc


...so it obviously should support cpu frequency scaling. Any ideas?




From ricks at nerd.com  Thu Oct 29 16:57:09 2009
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:57:09 -0700
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<4AE81994.9020508@hi.is>	<1256749715.2314.603.camel@adam.local.net>
	
Message-ID: <4AE9C965.9090006@nerd.com>

Richard Ryniker wrote:
> Progress...
> 
> Changes to /etc/pulse/default.pa did not work; the modified file caused
> pulseaudio to fail with messages like these in syslog:
> 
>   Oct 28 17:15:48 eee pulseaudio[1897]: module.c: Failed to open module "module-detect": file not found
>   Oct 28 17:15:48 eee pulseaudio[1897]: main.c: Module load failed.
>   Oct 28 17:15:48 eee pulseaudio[1897]: main.c: Failed to initialize daemon.
>   Oct 28 17:15:48 eee pulseaudio[1895]: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
> 
> Returned to the original /etc/pulse/default.pa.
> 
> Restarting pulseaudio is a key step for success.
> 
> If I log in with the Bose USB audio device not connected, pulseaudio
> starts as usual.  When the USB audio output device is connected, it is
> visible in the output from "aplay -l":
> 
>   [ryniker at eee ~]$ aplay -l
>   **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
>   card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog]
>     Subdevices: 1/1
>     Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>   card 1: Audio [Bose USB Audio], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
>     Subdevices: 1/1
>     Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>   [ryniker at eee ~]$ 
> 
> but it is not shown in System->Preferences->Sound.
> 
> Execute "pulseaudio -k" to restart pulseaudio, then the Bose device
> appears in the System->Preferences->Sound dialog, and it may be selected
> as the output device.
> 
> Voila!  Sound from the Bose speakers.
> 
> I understand aplay should accept a -D argument to select a specific
> output device, but none of the values I tried - even for the built-in
> audio hardware - would be accepted.  For example:
> 
>   [ryniker at eee ~]$ aplay tingle.wav 
>   Playing WAVE 'tingle.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
>   [ryniker at eee ~]$ aplay -l
>   **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
>   card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog]
>     Subdevices: 1/1
>     Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>   card 1: Audio [Bose USB Audio], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
>     Subdevices: 1/1
>     Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>   [ryniker at eee ~]$ aplay -D hw:0,0 tingle.wav 
>   Playing WAVE 'tingle.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
>   aplay: set_params:979: Sample format non available
>   [ryniker at eee ~]$ 
> 
> plays my test file (on the default sound output device), lists both
> devices, but fails when asked to use an explicit device.  
> 
> If my sound preference output is the external device, and I unplug the
> Bose USB device, sound output reverts to the built-in audio system.  If I
> then reconnect the Bose device, sound output returns to it automatically.
> 
> If I log out, disconnect the Bose system, log in, the whole process
> repeats.  When I plug in the Bose USB device, I must restart pulseaudio
> in order to make the USB audio output choice in Preferences->Sound.
> 
> I doubt things are supposed to work this way, but I am happy to have a
> way to work around the rough spots.  If more information is desired, I
> shall be happy to run tests and supply it.
> 
> When the Bose USB audio device is connected, syslog captures this:
> 
>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=05a7, idProduct=1020
>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: Product: Bose USB Audio
>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Bose Corporation
>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: generic-usb 0003:05A7:1020.0001: hiddev96,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device [Bose Corporation Bose USB Audio] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input2
>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 2:1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1
>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee pulseaudio[1461]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee pulseaudio[1461]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed
> 
> Last two lines repeated 4 times.
> 
>   Oct 28 21:24:22 eee pulseaudio[1461]: module-udev-detect.c: Tried to configure /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/sound/card1 (alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00) more often than 5 times in 10s
> 
> Every time my test file is played on the Bose device, syslog captures
> another line like this:
> 
>   Oct 28 22:35:13 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 7:1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1
> 
> but the output sounds good.

I suspect the udev rules for USB should be modified to force a 
pulseaudio restart when a sound device is plugged in.  I've run into
this with, for example, cameras with a built-in mic, too.
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From johannbg at hi.is  Thu Oct 29 17:00:32 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:00:32 +0000
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
In-Reply-To: <4AE9C965.9090006@nerd.com>
References: 	<4AE81994.9020508@hi.is>	<1256749715.2314.603.camel@adam.local.net>	
	<4AE9C965.9090006@nerd.com>
Message-ID: <4AE9CA30.4030503@hi.is>

On 10/29/2009 04:57 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> Richard Ryniker wrote:
>> Progress...
>>
>> Changes to /etc/pulse/default.pa did not work; the modified file caused
>> pulseaudio to fail with messages like these in syslog:
>>
>>   Oct 28 17:15:48 eee pulseaudio[1897]: module.c: Failed to open
>> module "module-detect": file not found
>>   Oct 28 17:15:48 eee pulseaudio[1897]: main.c: Module load failed.
>>   Oct 28 17:15:48 eee pulseaudio[1897]: main.c: Failed to initialize
>> daemon.
>>   Oct 28 17:15:48 eee pulseaudio[1895]: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
>>
>> Returned to the original /etc/pulse/default.pa.
>>
>> Restarting pulseaudio is a key step for success.
>>
>> If I log in with the Bose USB audio device not connected, pulseaudio
>> starts as usual.  When the USB audio output device is connected, it is
>> visible in the output from "aplay -l":
>>
>>   [ryniker at eee ~]$ aplay -l
>>   **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
>>   card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662
>> rev1 Analog]
>>     Subdevices: 1/1
>>     Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>   card 1: Audio [Bose USB Audio], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
>>     Subdevices: 1/1
>>     Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>   [ryniker at eee ~]$
>> but it is not shown in System->Preferences->Sound.
>>
>> Execute "pulseaudio -k" to restart pulseaudio, then the Bose device
>> appears in the System->Preferences->Sound dialog, and it may be selected
>> as the output device.
>>
>> Voila!  Sound from the Bose speakers.
>>
>> I understand aplay should accept a -D argument to select a specific
>> output device, but none of the values I tried - even for the built-in
>> audio hardware - would be accepted.  For example:
>>
>>   [ryniker at eee ~]$ aplay tingle.wav   Playing WAVE 'tingle.wav' :
>> Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
>>   [ryniker at eee ~]$ aplay -l
>>   **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
>>   card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662
>> rev1 Analog]
>>     Subdevices: 1/1
>>     Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>   card 1: Audio [Bose USB Audio], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
>>     Subdevices: 1/1
>>     Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>   [ryniker at eee ~]$ aplay -D hw:0,0 tingle.wav   Playing WAVE
>> 'tingle.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
>>   aplay: set_params:979: Sample format non available
>>   [ryniker at eee ~]$
>> plays my test file (on the default sound output device), lists both
>> devices, but fails when asked to use an explicit device. 
>> If my sound preference output is the external device, and I unplug the
>> Bose USB device, sound output reverts to the built-in audio system. 
>> If I
>> then reconnect the Bose device, sound output returns to it
>> automatically.
>>
>> If I log out, disconnect the Bose system, log in, the whole process
>> repeats.  When I plug in the Bose USB device, I must restart pulseaudio
>> in order to make the USB audio output choice in Preferences->Sound.
>>
>> I doubt things are supposed to work this way, but I am happy to have a
>> way to work around the rough spots.  If more information is desired, I
>> shall be happy to run tests and supply it.
>>
>> When the Bose USB audio device is connected, syslog captures this:
>>
>>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: new full speed USB device
>> using uhci_hcd and address 2
>>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: New USB device found,
>> idVendor=05a7, idProduct=1020
>>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1,
>> Product=2, SerialNumber=0
>>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: Product: Bose USB Audio
>>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Bose Corporation
>>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1
>> choice
>>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: generic-usb 0003:05A7:1020.0001:
>> hiddev96,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device [Bose Corporation Bose USB
>> Audio] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input2
>>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 2:1:1:
>> cannot get freq at ep 0x1
>>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee kernel: usbcore: registered new interface
>> driver snd-usb-audio
>>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee pulseaudio[1461]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to
>> find a working profile.
>>   Oct 28 21:24:21 eee pulseaudio[1461]: module.c: Failed to load 
>> module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1"
>> name="usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00"
>> card_name="alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00"
>> tsched=yes ignore_dB=no
>> card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization
>> failed
>>
>> Last two lines repeated 4 times.
>>
>>   Oct 28 21:24:22 eee pulseaudio[1461]: module-udev-detect.c: Tried
>> to configure
>> /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/sound/card1
>> (alsa_card.usb-Bose_Corporation_Bose_USB_Audio-00) more often than 5
>> times in 10s
>>
>> Every time my test file is played on the Bose device, syslog captures
>> another line like this:
>>
>>   Oct 28 22:35:13 eee kernel: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1295: 7:1:1:
>> cannot get freq at ep 0x1
>>
>> but the output sounds good.
>
> I suspect the udev rules for USB should be modified to force a
> pulseaudio restart when a sound device is plugged in.  I've run into
> this with, for example, cameras with a built-in mic, too.
>

It wont get fixed if it aint reported...

It would be great if both of you would report this in bugzilla against
pulseaudio

JGB
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From james_j_catchpole at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 29 17:04:10 2009
From: james_j_catchpole at yahoo.com (James J Catchpole)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:04:10 -0400
Subject: Firefox 3.5.4 Installation on Fedora 11 Missing ICON
In-Reply-To: <20091028205016.A1B7D6199BE@hormel.redhat.com>
References: <20091028205016.A1B7D6199BE@hormel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4AE9CB0A.10404@yahoo.com>

I updated my Fedora 11 System via yumex and it ran
successfully installing, among other things, Firefox 3.5.4.
My problem is that the Firefox Icon is nowhere to be
found in the KDE Application Launcher. Starting firefox
from a command line works fine but I would like to recreate
the Icon. Not sure who would own this type of problem.

On 10/28/2009 04:50 PM, fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com wrote:
> Send fedora-test-list mailing list submissions to
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: HP network printer not working with SELinux in enforcing
>       mode (Tim Waugh)
>    2. system-config-services broken in rawhide? (David L)
>    3. Kernel update (Lawrence E Graves)
>    4. Re: Kernel update (J?hann B. Gu?mundsson)
>    5. Re: system-config-services broken in rawhide? (Martin Airs)
>    6. Re: Bose USB audio problems (Michal Jaegermann)
>    7. Re: Bose USB audio problems (Adam Williamson)
>    8. Re: HP network printer not working with SELinux in enforcing
>       mode (Daniel J Walsh)
>    9. Re: Bug zapper priorities [was Re: theora screencasting not
>       working in F12] (Adam Williamson)
>   10. Re: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout (Adam Williamson)
>   11. Re: system-config-services broken in rawhide? (Adam Williamson)
>   12. Re: Fedora 12 beta issues (Dave Jones)
>   13. Re: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout (Birger Wathne)
>   14. Re: F12 Rawhide defaults to US keyboard layout (Adam Williamson)
>   15. Fedora Server distro? (Rob Healey)
>   16. Re: Kernel update (Lawrence E Graves)
>   17. Network Connection (Lawrence E Graves)
>   18. Re: Fedora Server distro? (Michael Cronenworth)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:08:12 +0000
> From: Tim Waugh 
> Subject: Re: HP network printer not working with SELinux in enforcing
> 	mode
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
> 	
> Message-ID: <1256746093.2472.5.camel at localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 02:27 +1100, Masood wrote:
>   
>> SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/avahi-autoipd "net_admin" access.
>> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "name_bind" access.
>> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "getattr" access
>> on /var/lib/net-snmp.
>> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups "search" access
>> on /var/lib/net-snmp.
>> SELinux is preventing /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp "name_bind" access.
>>     
> Part of this looks like bug #530712, which should have been fixed in
> selinux-policy-3.6.32-33.fc12:
>   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530712
>
> What selinux-policy version do you currently have?
>
> Tim.
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> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:11:26 -0700
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> [root ~]# system-config-services
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/sbin/system-config-services", line 1038, in 
>     GUI(use_dbus=use_dbus).run()
>   File "/usr/sbin/system-config-services", line 986, in __init__
>     self.serviceherders.append(cls(bus=self._bus))
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/scservices/dbus/proxy/serviceherders.py",
> line 47, in __init__
>     self.dbus_service_path)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 244, in get_object
>     follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 241, in __init__
>     self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 183, in
> activate_name_owner
>     self.start_service_by_name(bus_name)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 281, in
> start_service_by_name
>     'su', (bus_name, flags)))
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line
> 630, in call_blocking
>     message, timeout)
> dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited
> with unknown return code 1
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:18:59 -0600
> From: Lawrence E Graves 
> Subject: Kernel update
> To: Fedora Test 
> Message-ID: <1256746740.8560.3.camel at Jehovah.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> I am experiencing not being allowed to update to the newest kernel.
> When trying this is the results: Warning: _get_list unexpected
> command : :ready ([])  Where do I go from here?
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 29 17:19:34 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:19:34 -0700
Subject: Audio CDs, Bug 513495 and Devicekit-disks
In-Reply-To: <8b943f1c01b406f788c0d795cdbeb8f0@fcp.surfsite.org>
References: <8b943f1c01b406f788c0d795cdbeb8f0@fcp.surfsite.org>
Message-ID: <1256836774.2314.21.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 12:34 +0100, spoffley wrote:
> After many months a problem detected in F11 regarding mounting of
> Audio CDs and raised as bug 513495, was finally fixed in
> Devicekit-disks-004-5.  On Rawhide we are up to Devicekit-disks-008-1
> and the problem still exists as the fix has not so far been ported to
> Rawhide I guess.  I would hope that the fix will make it over prior to
> F12 release otherwise a lot of people are going to get very upset when
> they find out that a problem raised 4 months ago has suddenly
> reappeared when they upgrade to F12.  Playing Audio CDs on a computer
> is a pretty fundamental operation these days and it should be expected
> under any operating system

After Andr? Costa mentioned this issue to me by private email, I tested
with F12, and I can play audio CDs fine. The fix for f11 was backported
from a later release of DeviceKit-disks, so it is in F12's
DeviceKit-disks already. Are you sure you're having the same problem?

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 29 17:20:53 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:20:53 -0700
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
In-Reply-To: <4AE9C965.9090006@nerd.com>
References:  <4AE81994.9020508@hi.is>
	<1256749715.2314.603.camel@adam.local.net>
	  <4AE9C965.9090006@nerd.com>
Message-ID: <1256836853.2314.22.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 09:57 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:

> I suspect the udev rules for USB should be modified to force a 
> pulseaudio restart when a sound device is plugged in.  I've run into
> this with, for example, cameras with a built-in mic, too.

That would be very much the wrong way to fix it, it shouldn't be needed
(not needed here when I plug in a USB audio device). Please just file a
bug on PA in this case, with appropriate logs.

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
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From ricks at nerd.com  Thu Oct 29 17:24:44 2009
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:24:44 -0700
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
In-Reply-To: <1256836853.2314.22.camel@adam.local.net>
References: 
	<4AE81994.9020508@hi.is>	<1256749715.2314.603.camel@adam.local.net>	
	<4AE9C965.9090006@nerd.com>
	<1256836853.2314.22.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AE9CFDC.6090209@nerd.com>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 09:57 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> 
>> I suspect the udev rules for USB should be modified to force a 
>> pulseaudio restart when a sound device is plugged in.  I've run into
>> this with, for example, cameras with a built-in mic, too.
> 
> That would be very much the wrong way to fix it, it shouldn't be needed
> (not needed here when I plug in a USB audio device). Please just file a
> bug on PA in this case, with appropriate logs.

Filed bug 531866 against F11 suggesting restart of pulseaudio.  Shoot
it if it's incorrect, but restarting pulse DOES fix the issue the OP
had with his Bose device.  I have a Logitech USB headset here I can do
some testing with.
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From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 17:21:39 2009
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:51:39 -0430
Subject: Firefox 3.5.4 Installation on Fedora 11 Missing ICON
Message-ID: <1256836899.3077.110.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

Please refrain from

a) Replying to mailing list digests. This is *always* wrong, even when
you change the Subject line. Quoting the entire contents of the digest
right back at the list just makes it worse.

b) Posting to any Fedora list in HTML.

poc



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 29 17:35:22 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:35:22 -0700
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
In-Reply-To: <4AE9CFDC.6090209@nerd.com>
References:  <4AE81994.9020508@hi.is>
	<1256749715.2314.603.camel@adam.local.net>
	 <4AE9C965.9090006@nerd.com>
	<1256836853.2314.22.camel@adam.local.net> <4AE9CFDC.6090209@nerd.com>
Message-ID: <1256837722.2314.23.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 10:24 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 09:57 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > 
> >> I suspect the udev rules for USB should be modified to force a 
> >> pulseaudio restart when a sound device is plugged in.  I've run into
> >> this with, for example, cameras with a built-in mic, too.
> > 
> > That would be very much the wrong way to fix it, it shouldn't be needed
> > (not needed here when I plug in a USB audio device). Please just file a
> > bug on PA in this case, with appropriate logs.
> 
> Filed bug 531866 against F11 suggesting restart of pulseaudio.  Shoot
> it if it's incorrect, but restarting pulse DOES fix the issue the OP
> had with his Bose device.  I have a Logitech USB headset here I can do
> some testing with.

Thanks. I followed up with my assessment of the issue and a request for
information. Richard Ryniker, can you also comment on the bug,
explaining you have a similar issue with your USB device, and including
the information I asked for from Rick? Thanks.

-- 
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IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 29 17:37:53 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:37:53 -0700
Subject: [Announcement]Bug Triage Event 2009-10-30 @ 1600-2000 UTC
 (1200-1600 hours EDT)
In-Reply-To: <20091029143117.GD2447@blackhare>
References: <20091029143117.GD2447@blackhare>
Message-ID: <1256837873.2314.24.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 10:31 -0400, TK009 wrote:
> When: Friday, 2009-10-30 @ 16:00-20:00 UTC (1200-1600 hours EDT)
> Where: #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net
> F-12 Blocker Meeting may still be in session (more than likely) in 
> #fedora-bugzappers, so we will be gathering in #fedora-qa.

Yeah, this is kind of nuts :/ I don't really know why we do the blocker
bug reviews in #fedora-bugzappers. We should probably change that.
Sorry.

> The Bug Zappers will be holding a bug triage event this Friday (tomorrow) and 
> would like to invite any and all that are interested in lending a hand to join 
> us.
> Our goal for this event is to review and triage Fedora 10 bug reports still in 
> the status of 'NEW' with the aim of confirming and re-versioning or closing 
> where appropriate. This is an effort to put 'eyes' on these reports before EOL 
> (End Of Life) changes close them.
> 
> whether your just curious about the triage process or have questions and would 
> like to learn more. This is an opportunity to do so.
> Maybe you like help filing a bug report? We're happy to help.

Be there or be square!

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 29 17:38:26 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:38:26 -0700
Subject: Athlon 64 UP CPU -- no frequency scaling support?
In-Reply-To: <4AE9B6D8.5090503@gmail.com>
References: <4AE9B6D8.5090503@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256837906.2314.25.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 17:38 +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> The cpufreq-* modules are loaded, I tried both available Fedora kernels 
> (2.6.31.5-96.fc12.x86_64 and
>   2.6.31.1-56.fc12.x86_64, acpitool --cpu says :
> 
> CPU type               : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
>    CPU speed              : 2400.392 MHz
>    Cache size             : 512 KB
>    Bogomips               : 4800.78
>    Processor ID           : 0
>    Bus mastering control  : yes
>    Power management       : no
>    Throttling control     : no
>    Limit interface        : no
>    Active C-state         : C0
>    C-states (incl. C0)    : 0
> 
> But...in works in $OTHER_DISTRO and /proc/cpuinfo says
> 
> processor    : 0
> vendor_id    : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family    : 15
> model        : 95
> model name    : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
> stepping    : 2
> cpu MHz        : 2400.392
> cache size    : 512 KB
> fpu        : yes
> fpu_exception    : yes
> cpuid level    : 1
> wp        : yes
> flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov 
> pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 
> 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm svm extapic 
> cr8_legacy
> bogomips    : 4800.78
> TLB size    : 1024 4K pages
> clflush size    : 64
> cache_alignment    : 64
> address sizes    : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc
> 
> 
> ...so it obviously should support cpu frequency scaling. Any ideas?

Have you checked for any relevant messages in /var/log/messages ?

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
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From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 17:44:31 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:44:31 -0400
Subject: [Announcement]Bug Triage Event 2009-10-30 @ 1600-2000 UTC
	(1200-1600 hours EDT)
In-Reply-To: <1256837873.2314.24.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <20091029143117.GD2447@blackhare>
	<1256837873.2314.24.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <20091029174431.GB3858@blackhare>

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:37:53AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Yeah, this is kind of nuts :/ I don't really know why we do the blocker
> bug reviews in #fedora-bugzappers. We should probably change that.
> Sorry.
>

It is not a big deal as I see it. This event was on short notice and as we are the same team anyway qa works. Better planning on my part should alleviate this problem for our future events. Yes, there will be more =).

TK009
 



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 29 18:10:12 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:10:12 -0700
Subject: 2009-10-22 - Power Management Test Day report
In-Reply-To: <4AE99B4D.3060002@redhat.com>
References: <4AE99B4D.3060002@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1256839812.2314.35.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 14:40 +0100, Phil Knirsch wrote:
> Here a short report from the Power Management Fedora Test day on 
> 10/22/09 [1]. First of all many thanks to all the people who 
> participated in it and who reported their findings.

> For the next testday we already plan to expand that idea and include the 
> automated upload script which will make it even easier for the testers.
> 
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-22

Thanks very much for running the Test Day and organizing it so expertly!
It's great to have the process running smoothly enough that we can get
events off the ground like this with almost no direct management being
done by QA, and great to know the system is valuable for you.

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 29 18:42:13 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:42:13 -0700
Subject: Testing request: possible ext4 corruption issue
Message-ID: <1256841733.2314.52.camel@adam.local.net>

Hi, guys. J?hann raised a concern about the potential ext4 corruption
issue that's currently under discussion upstream:

http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14354

the discussion between Eric and Linus tends towards the theory that this
is not affecting 2.6.31, but we'd like to have somewhat more certainty
of this.

For those who are testing F12 on disposable systems/partitions, it would
be very much appreciated if you could test this. Testing it is
relatively easy - all we need you to do is dirty power-off active
systems with ext4 partitions. If they're physical systems, yank the
plug. If they're virtual machines, do a forced power-off from the VM
interface (not a clean shutdown request). Ideally while they're writing
data. See if you can get some data corruption this way.

There's some suggested operations to reproduce this in the bug report.
e.g. Eric's reproduction method is detailed in
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14354#c141 . But basically
just suddenly powering off the system while something's writing data to
an ext4 partition is the key - ideally you know _what_ data is being
written, so you can check if it's been corrupted on the next boot.

Again, let me emphasize, since this is a potential data corruption bug,
I _hope_ it's obvious you shouldn't test it on any system or data you
actually care about :). Of course, as Dan says, any data you don't have
backed up is data you don't care about, but please bear that in mind.

For my peace of mind it'd be great if a few of you can try this and
confirm whether or not you're able to dependably cause corruption this
way.


It's also worth noting J?hann and I both came to this report via the
somewhat dubious Ubuntu report at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453579 , which
claims to see corruption of large files on ext4 partitions. This
upstream bug was linked from that one, though they don't look related to
me. I don't place a lot of credence in the Ubuntu report, but obviously
if anyone's observed large files being corrupted on F12 ext4 partitions,
PLEASE let us know about this. Check those sha256sums.

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From davej at redhat.com  Thu Oct 29 19:16:03 2009
From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:16:03 -0400
Subject: Athlon 64 UP CPU -- no frequency scaling support?
In-Reply-To: <4AE9B6D8.5090503@gmail.com>
References: <4AE9B6D8.5090503@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091029191603.GA8522@redhat.com>

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 05:38:00PM +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:
 > The cpufreq-* modules are loaded, I tried both available Fedora kernels 
 > (2.6.31.5-96.fc12.x86_64 and
 >   2.6.31.1-56.fc12.x86_64, acpitool --cpu says :
 > 
 > CPU type               : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
 >    CPU speed              : 2400.392 MHz
 >    Cache size             : 512 KB
 >    Bogomips               : 4800.78
 >    Processor ID           : 0
 >    Bus mastering control  : yes
 >    Power management       : no
 >    Throttling control     : no
 >    Limit interface        : no
 >    Active C-state         : C0
 >    C-states (incl. C0)    : 0
 > 
 > But...in works in $OTHER_DISTRO and /proc/cpuinfo says
 > 
 > processor    : 0
 > vendor_id    : AuthenticAMD
 > cpu family    : 15
 > model        : 95
 > model name    : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
 > stepping    : 2
 > cpu MHz        : 2400.392
 > cache size    : 512 KB
 > fpu        : yes
 > fpu_exception    : yes
 > cpuid level    : 1
 > wp        : yes
 > flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov 
 > pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 
 > 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm svm extapic 
 > cr8_legacy
 > bogomips    : 4800.78
 > TLB size    : 1024 4K pages
 > clflush size    : 64
 > cache_alignment    : 64
 > address sizes    : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
 > power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc
 > 
 > 
 > ...so it obviously should support cpu frequency scaling. Any ideas?

What does cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/* say ?

	Dave



From guido.grazioli at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 19:25:03 2009
From: guido.grazioli at gmail.com (Guido Grazioli)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:25:03 +0100
Subject: Testing request: possible ext4 corruption issue
In-Reply-To: <1256841733.2314.52.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256841733.2314.52.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <2f984ea00910291225x34396b13l7b12ea1378087dcf@mail.gmail.com>

2009/10/29 Adam Williamson 
>
> Hi, guys. J?hann raised a concern about the potential ext4 corruption
> issue that's currently under discussion upstream:
>
> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14354
>
> the discussion between Eric and Linus tends towards the theory that this
> is not affecting 2.6.31, but we'd like to have somewhat more certainty
> of this.

It seems (reading slashdot thread about 9.10 release) that ubuntu folks have
added a notice in the release notes warning about the bug.

"Possible corruption of large files with ext4 filesystem

There have been some reports of data corruption with fresh (not
upgraded) ext4 file systems using the Ubuntu 9.10 kernel when writing
to large files (over 512MB). The issue is under investigation, and if
confirmed will be resolved in a post-release update. Users who
routinely manipulate large files may want to consider using ext3 file
systems until this issue is resolved. (453579 [launchpad.net])"


Cant verify this as it was cited in a slashdot post and ubuntu.com
seems to be down right now

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From awilliam at redhat.com  Thu Oct 29 19:31:46 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:31:46 -0700
Subject: Testing request: possible ext4 corruption issue
In-Reply-To: <2f984ea00910291225x34396b13l7b12ea1378087dcf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1256841733.2314.52.camel@adam.local.net>
	<2f984ea00910291225x34396b13l7b12ea1378087dcf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256844706.2314.63.camel@adam.local.net>

On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 20:25 +0100, Guido Grazioli wrote:
> 2009/10/29 Adam Williamson 
> >
> > Hi, guys. J?hann raised a concern about the potential ext4 corruption
> > issue that's currently under discussion upstream:
> >
> > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14354
> >
> > the discussion between Eric and Linus tends towards the theory that this
> > is not affecting 2.6.31, but we'd like to have somewhat more certainty
> > of this.
> 
> It seems (reading slashdot thread about 9.10 release) that ubuntu folks have
> added a notice in the release notes warning about the bug.
> 
> "Possible corruption of large files with ext4 filesystem
> 
> There have been some reports of data corruption with fresh (not
> upgraded) ext4 file systems using the Ubuntu 9.10 kernel when writing
> to large files (over 512MB). The issue is under investigation, and if
> confirmed will be resolved in a post-release update. Users who
> routinely manipulate large files may want to consider using ext3 file
> systems until this issue is resolved. (453579 [launchpad.net])"

That is not about the same bug. That's about the bug I mentioned at the
end of my mail, the exact paragraph you cut out when quoting me. :)

Someone suggested the dubious Ubuntu report was a case of the verified
upstream bug, but it doesn't look like that to me. The upstream report
is about corruption of _any_ size files _on a dirty shutdown of the
system_. The Ubuntu report is about corruption of only _large_ files,
with no need for any kind of shutdown and reboot before the problem is
observed. They look like different issues.

Personally, as I said, I don't much credit the Ubuntu report, at least
unless some other people independently confirm the same problem.

-- 
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http://www.happyassassin.net



From beland at alum.mit.edu  Thu Oct 29 19:52:47 2009
From: beland at alum.mit.edu (Christopher Beland)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:52:47 -0400
Subject: F12 icon completeness issues
In-Reply-To: <1256763909.2417.63.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1256763909.2417.63.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256845967.2629.67.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/ReleaseCriteria#Desktop says "All items
should have icons, and look ok together (ie no wild theme mix and blurry
scaled icons)."

I filed two bugs on missing icons, which are theoretically final release
blockers:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531181
Missing ABRT icon in Applications -> System Tools menu (Gnome)

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531180
Missing icons in System menu (Gnome)


Matthias Clasen closed the latter, saying the wiki page "should
certainly be clarified to refer to applications only."

I see the distinction between a submenu entry and an entry that actually
does something when you select it ("applications").  But e.g. Help is
missing an icon, and I think of that as falling into the second
category.  Personally, I think the System menu in Fedora 11 looks
better, since it has icons for every item and submenu, and this matches
the Places and Applications menus.

I'd like to establish consensus on what to do, and I also wonder what
the motivation for removing icons that look nice could possibly be.

Thanks,

Beland



From schaiba at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 20:01:38 2009
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:01:38 +0200
Subject: Athlon 64 UP CPU -- no frequency scaling support?
In-Reply-To: <20091029191603.GA8522@redhat.com>
References: <4AE9B6D8.5090503@gmail.com> <20091029191603.GA8522@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4AE9F4A2.4020808@gmail.com>

Dave Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 05:38:00PM +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:
>  > The cpufreq-* modules are loaded, I tried both available Fedora kernels 
>  > (2.6.31.5-96.fc12.x86_64 and
>  >   2.6.31.1-56.fc12.x86_64, acpitool --cpu says :
>  > 
>  > CPU type               : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
>  >    CPU speed              : 2400.392 MHz
>  >    Cache size             : 512 KB
>  >    Bogomips               : 4800.78
>  >    Processor ID           : 0
>  >    Bus mastering control  : yes
>  >    Power management       : no
>  >    Throttling control     : no
>  >    Limit interface        : no
>  >    Active C-state         : C0
>  >    C-states (incl. C0)    : 0
>  > 
>  > But...in works in $OTHER_DISTRO and /proc/cpuinfo says
>  > 
>  > processor    : 0
>  > vendor_id    : AuthenticAMD
>  > cpu family    : 15
>  > model        : 95
>  > model name    : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
>  > stepping    : 2
>  > cpu MHz        : 2400.392
>  > cache size    : 512 KB
>  > fpu        : yes
>  > fpu_exception    : yes
>  > cpuid level    : 1
>  > wp        : yes
>  > flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov 
>  > pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 
>  > 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm svm extapic 
>  > cr8_legacy
>  > bogomips    : 4800.78
>  > TLB size    : 1024 4K pages
>  > clflush size    : 64
>  > cache_alignment    : 64
>  > address sizes    : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
>  > power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc
>  > 
>  > 
>  > ...so it obviously should support cpu frequency scaling. Any ideas?
>
> What does cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/* say ?
>
> 	Dave
>
>   
The folder cpufreq is nonexistant and /var/log/messages tells me there's 
a firmware bug so no frequency scaling available.



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu Oct 29 20:07:34 2009
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:07:34 -0400
Subject: F12 icon completeness issues
In-Reply-To: <1256845967.2629.67.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
References: <1256763909.2417.63.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1256845967.2629.67.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256846854.2370.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 15:52 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/ReleaseCriteria#Desktop says "All items
> should have icons, and look ok together (ie no wild theme mix and blurry
> scaled icons)."
> 
> I filed two bugs on missing icons, which are theoretically final release
> blockers:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531181
> Missing ABRT icon in Applications -> System Tools menu (Gnome)

I think the missing abrt icon issue was mixed in with several other
UI-related issues in bug#489624.  I asked Jiri for his thoughts on the
missing icon ... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489624#c18

Thanks,
James
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From rosset.filipe at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 20:11:10 2009
From: rosset.filipe at gmail.com (Filipe Rosset)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:11:10 -0200
Subject: F12 icon completeness issues
In-Reply-To: <1256846854.2370.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1256763909.2417.63.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1256845967.2629.67.camel@diet-anarchy.localdomain>
	<1256846854.2370.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4AE9F6DE.8090308@gmail.com>

Em 29-10-2009 18:07, James Laska escreveu:
> On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 15:52 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote:
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/ReleaseCriteria#Desktop says "All items
>> should have icons, and look ok together (ie no wild theme mix and blurry
>> scaled icons)."
>>
>> I filed two bugs on missing icons, which are theoretically final release
>> blockers:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531181
>> Missing ABRT icon in Applications ->  System Tools menu (Gnome)
>
> I think the missing abrt icon issue was mixed in with several other
> UI-related issues in bug#489624.  I asked Jiri for his thoughts on the
> missing icon ... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489624#c18
>
> Thanks,
> James
>

The missing icons aren't actually missing they're just 'disabled' by default.
I think the disabled icons is bad to final user.

-- 
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Embaixador Projeto Fedora
rosset.filipe at gmail.com
rosset at projetofedora.org
Mobile: +55 54 9632-2499
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"First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." Mahatma Gandhi



From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Oct 30 01:44:46 2009
From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:44:46 -0600
Subject: Fedora 12 beta issues
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4AE7A4E2.5020702@yahoo.co.uk>	<1256709632.2314.598.camel@adam.local.net>	<4AE91F31.3050503@yahoo.co.uk>
	
Message-ID: <4AEA450E.1060000@yahoo.co.uk>

On 29/10/09 02:11 AM, Christoph Frieben wrote:
> 2009/10/29 Dariusz J. Garbowski :
>   
>> 10. Ethernet network interface (cable) doesn't get up during boot even
>> though it's configured as not managed by NM. I have to bring it up manually.
>>   This network interface doesn't start on boot:
>>
>> # 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone]
>> DEVICE=eth1
>> HWADDR=00:10:4B:7A:65:73
>> ONBOOT=yes
>> BOOTPROTO=dhcp
>> TYPE=Ethernet
>> IPV6INIT=no
>> USERCTL=no
>> NM_CONTROLLED=no
>> PEERDNS=yes
>>     
>
> That's what you expect unless you enable service "network" and disable
> service "NetworkManager". In case NM is enabled you would have to set
> NM_CONTROLLED=yes in addition to ONBOOT=yes to get network
> connectivity already during the boot procedure.
>   

Aha! Thanks for this information, I will certainly put it to good use. 
Particularly that I will be yanking NM from this machine, it's all cable 
wired.

-- 
thufor





From davej at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 02:35:16 2009
From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:35:16 -0400
Subject: Athlon 64 UP CPU -- no frequency scaling support?
In-Reply-To: <4AE9F4A2.4020808@gmail.com>
References: <4AE9B6D8.5090503@gmail.com> <20091029191603.GA8522@redhat.com>
	<4AE9F4A2.4020808@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091030023515.GA16872@redhat.com>

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:01:38PM +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:

 > The folder cpufreq is nonexistant and /var/log/messages tells me there's 
 > a firmware bug so no frequency scaling available.

which message is that ?  Is there a BIOS update available ?

	Dave



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 07:01:27 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:01:27 -0700
Subject: Quick reminder: blocker bug meeting tomorrow
Message-ID: <1256886087.2314.76.camel@adam.local.net>

Just to quickly remind everyone that the (possibly final) blocker bug
meeting is tomorrow at 15:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers. If you have any
bugs to nominate for blocker status, or want to take part in the
discussion on the ones already on the list - be there!

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From lili at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 08:14:10 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:14:10 +0800
Subject: Fedora12 Pre-RC install test report
Message-ID: <4AEAA052.2010301@redhat.com>

Greetings testers,

      Many thinks to those who cared about and participated in Pre-RC 
install test. A small install testing was completed against rawhide for 
the coming RC. Since we set the dead line for this testing on Nov 
4,before that,any test feedback(to wiki or mailing list) for rawhide 
install will be welcome.During this testing,we still have some good 
catches.The following bugs were filed or still existed:

531052  NEW              [anaconda] Live: Error processing drive: 
/dev/dm-0
531425  ASSIGNED         newly installed system,NFS daemon start failed 
after boot
531581  NEW              Encrypted autopart install on IBM Power5 ppc 
fails to find root device on boot
517491  MODIFIED         Anaconda fails if filesystem should be shrunk
525615  NEW              system can not automatically reboot after exit 
installer -f12 beta TC
498026  CLOSED RAWHIDE   RuntimeError: Returning partitions to state 
prior to edit failed
531823  NEW              traceback after selecting reboot from firstaidkit

 From Nov 4 to Nov 11, we will do RC install test which is the last 
important install test for F12.Hope you can participate,see you there.:)

Thanks
Liam



From the.masch at gmail.com  Fri Oct 30 08:23:59 2009
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:23:59 -0300
Subject: Fedora12 Pre-RC install test report
In-Reply-To: <4AEAA052.2010301@redhat.com>
References: <4AEAA052.2010301@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <93d66b780910300123s3bc4502dt51f1a1b5dae1374c@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Please Can you include the bug
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530520 on the list? I can't use
F12, there is not a workaround for it.

      530520 ASSIGNED          [novueau, G71, GeForce 7950 GT] Xorg hangs
randomly with only blank screen (edit)

I want to run some test for F12 but I can't use it.

Thanks
salu2...
masch...


On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Liam  wrote:

> Greetings testers,
>
>     Many thinks to those who cared about and participated in Pre-RC install
> test. A small install testing was completed against rawhide for the coming
> RC. Since we set the dead line for this testing on Nov 4,before that,any
> test feedback(to wiki or mailing list) for rawhide install will be
> welcome.During this testing,we still have some good catches.The following
> bugs were filed or still existed:
>
> 531052  NEW              [anaconda] Live: Error processing drive: /dev/dm-0
> 531425  ASSIGNED         newly installed system,NFS daemon start failed
> after boot
> 531581  NEW              Encrypted autopart install on IBM Power5 ppc fails
> to find root device on boot
> 517491  MODIFIED         Anaconda fails if filesystem should be shrunk
> 525615  NEW              system can not automatically reboot after exit
> installer -f12 beta TC
> 498026  CLOSED RAWHIDE   RuntimeError: Returning partitions to state prior
> to edit failed
> 531823  NEW              traceback after selecting reboot from firstaidkit
>
> From Nov 4 to Nov 11, we will do RC install test which is the last
> important install test for F12.Hope you can participate,see you there.:)
>
> Thanks
> Liam
>
> --
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From drago01 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 30 08:52:54 2009
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:52:54 +0100
Subject: Bose USB audio problems
In-Reply-To: <4AE9C965.9090006@nerd.com>
References:  <4AE81994.9020508@hi.is>
	<1256749715.2314.603.camel@adam.local.net>
	 <4AE9C965.9090006@nerd.com>
Message-ID: 

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:

> I suspect the udev rules for USB should be modified to force a pulseaudio
> restart when a sound device is plugged in. ?I've run into
> this with, for example, cameras with a built-in mic, too.

No, this is not a fix but a gross hack, that would have some bad side
effects to.



From lili at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 09:12:15 2009
From: lili at redhat.com (Liam)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:12:15 +0800
Subject: Fedora12 Pre-RC install test report
In-Reply-To: <93d66b780910300123s3bc4502dt51f1a1b5dae1374c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AEAA052.2010301@redhat.com>
	<93d66b780910300123s3bc4502dt51f1a1b5dae1374c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AEAADEF.4070209@redhat.com>

Thanks for your feedback, I'm very glad to to that,also I will add it to 
wiki matrix. :)

On 10/30/2009 04:23 PM, Mario Chacon wrote:
> Hello,
> Please Can you include the bug
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530520 on the list? I can't
> use F12, there is not a workaround for it.
>
>        530520 ASSIGNED [novueau, G71, GeForce 7950 GT] Xorg hangs
> randomly with only blank screen (edit)
>
> I want to run some test for F12 but I can't use it.
>
> Thanks
> salu2...
> masch...



From the.masch at gmail.com  Fri Oct 30 09:37:03 2009
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:37:03 -0300
Subject: Fedora12 Pre-RC install test report
In-Reply-To: <4AEAADEF.4070209@redhat.com>
References: <4AEAA052.2010301@redhat.com>
	<93d66b780910300123s3bc4502dt51f1a1b5dae1374c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4AEAADEF.4070209@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <93d66b780910300237t2c7d62b8k76581b6d0cef6e43@mail.gmail.com>

Great! thanks. sorry What is the wiki matrix?

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Liam  wrote:

> Thanks for your feedback, I'm very glad to to that,also I will add it to
> wiki matrix. :)
>
>
> On 10/30/2009 04:23 PM, Mario Chacon wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> Please Can you include the bug
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530520 on the list? I can't
>> use F12, there is not a workaround for it.
>>
>>       530520 ASSIGNED [novueau, G71, GeForce 7950 GT] Xorg hangs
>> randomly with only blank screen (edit)
>>
>> I want to run some test for F12 but I can't use it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> salu2...
>> masch...
>>
>
> --
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
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From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Fri Oct 30 09:43:56 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:43:56 +0200
Subject: Gnome problems after Rawhide update
Message-ID: <4AEAB55C.90700@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

After latest yum update to rawhide (thursday night) I am now getting 
these errors when using gedit
GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible 
causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you 
have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See 
http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Server 
ping error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/UNKNOWN:1.0)

Other gnome applications have the same error but are less forgiving and 
crash. What has changed, and how do I work around?  I am a little bit 
afraid to reboot if this is going to render the machine unusable. Advice?



From rhe at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 09:45:45 2009
From: rhe at redhat.com (He Rui)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:45:45 +0800
Subject: Fedora12 Pre-RC install test report
In-Reply-To: <93d66b780910300237t2c7d62b8k76581b6d0cef6e43@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AEAA052.2010301@redhat.com>	<93d66b780910300123s3bc4502dt51f1a1b5dae1374c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AEAADEF.4070209@redhat.com>
	<93d66b780910300237t2c7d62b8k76581b6d0cef6e43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AEAB5C9.5000809@redhat.com>

Hi Mario,

Here you  can find the matrix:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_Pre-RC_Install



Thanks,
Rui :-)


On 10/30/2009 05:37 PM, Mario Chacon wrote:
> Great! thanks. sorry What is the wiki matrix?
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Liam  > wrote:
>
>     Thanks for your feedback, I'm very glad to to that,also I will add
>     it to wiki matrix. :)
>
>
>     On 10/30/2009 04:23 PM, Mario Chacon wrote:
>
>         Hello,
>         Please Can you include the bug
>         https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530520 on the
>         list? I can't
>         use F12, there is not a workaround for it.
>
>               530520 ASSIGNED [novueau, G71, GeForce 7950 GT] Xorg hangs
>         randomly with only blank screen (edit)
>
>         I want to run some test for F12 but I can't use it.
>
>         Thanks
>         salu2...
>         masch...
>
>
>     -- 
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>     fedora-test-list at redhat.com 
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>     https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 30 10:36:09 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:36:09 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091030 changes
Message-ID: <20091030103609.GA5828@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri Oct 30 06:15:14 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	gnome-applet-timer-2.1.2-4.fc12.i686 requires gnome-audio
	1:nant-0.85-30.fc12.i686 requires mono(NDoc.Core) = 0:1.3.3498.0



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	gnome-applet-timer-2.1.2-4.fc12.x86_64 requires gnome-audio
	1:nant-0.85-30.fc12.x86_64 requires mono(NDoc.Core) = 0:1.3.3498.0



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	gnome-applet-timer-2.1.2-4.fc12.ppc requires gnome-audio



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	gnome-applet-timer-2.1.2-4.fc12.ppc64 requires gnome-audio



New package javatar
        Java tar archive io package
New package knm-new-fixed-fonts
        12x12 JIS X 0208 Bitmap fonts
New package perl-Makefile-DOM
        Simple DOM parser for Makefiles
New package qbrew
        A Brewing Recipe Calculator
Updated Packages:

LabPlot-1.6.0.2-8.fc12
----------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 1.6.0.2-8
- fix FTBFS with current GSL (GSL_CONST_CGSM_GAUSS undefined, patch from Debian)

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 1.6.0.2-7
- drop ExcludeArch ppc64, OCaml is available for ppc64 these days

* Tue Sep 22 2009 Dennis Gilmore  - 1.6.0.2-6
- ExcludeArch s390 s390x and sparc64 no ocaml

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.6.0.2-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild

* Mon Feb 23 2009 Fedora Release Engineering  - 1.6.0.2-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild


abiword-2.8.1-1.fc12
--------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Marc Maurer  - 1:2.8.1-1
- New upstream release

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Marc Maurer  - 1:2.8.0-1
- New upstream release

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Marc Maurer  - 1:2.8.0-2
- Build with --enable-dynamic


audacious-plugins-2.1-10.fc12
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 2.1-10
- Remove decode_thread from sndfile plugin to fix playback.

* Mon Oct 26 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 2.1-9
- Let buffer_time_min in underruns patch depend on default buffer size.

* Sun Oct 25 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 2.1-8
- Patch modplug plugin to remove old cruft and fix playback.


avogadro-1.0.0-1.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  1.0.0-1
- update to new upstream release


biniax-1.2-7.fc12
-----------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Simon Wesp  - 1.2-7
- Re-import to Fedora


blam-1.8.5-19.fc12
------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jan Horak  - 1.8.5-19
- Rebuild against newer gecko


bluez-4.56-1.fc12
-----------------
* Sat Oct 10 2009 Bastien Nocera  4.56-1
- Update to 4.56

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Bastien Nocera  4.55-3
- Update cable pairing plugin to use libudev

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Bastien Nocera  4.55-2
- Enable caps lowering


brltty-4.1-1.fc12
-----------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 4.1-1
- new upstream version
- use --disable-stripping instead of make variable override
- install the default brltty-pm.conf to docdir only (#526168)
- remove the duplicate copies of rhmkboot and rhmkroot from docdir
- patch configure so that the dirs in summary are not garbled:
  brltty-autoconf-quote.patch

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 4.0-2
- escape rpm macros in the rpm change log
- add requires to bind subpackages from one build together

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 4.0-1
- new upstream version
- drop upstreamed patches; ./autogen not needed anymore
- pack the xbrlapi server; move its man page to brlapi package
- add man-page for brltty.conf (#526168)


control-center-2.28.1-4.fc12
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-4
- Fix metacity keybindings showing up under compiz


empathy-2.28.1.1-3.fc12
-----------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Matthias Clasen  - 2.28.1.1-3
- Escape notifications
- Fix a crash due to refcounting issues


evince-2.28.1-5.fc12
--------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Marek Kasik  - 2.28.1-5
- Add backported patch evince-aspect-ratio.patch (#531430).
- Preserve aspect ratio of scaled pages and set page orientation
- automatically (gnome bugs #599468 and #599470)


fedora-logos-12.0.3-1.fc12
--------------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 12.0.3-1
- Update to 12.0.3, yet another name for system-software-install icons


file-roller-2.28.1-2.fc12
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.1-2
- Fix sticky DND


galeon-2.0.7-16.fc12.1
----------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 2.0.7-16.1
- Rebuild for new xulrunner (1.9.1.4)


gambas2-2.17.0-1.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 2.17.0-1
- update to 2.17.0


gcc-4.4.2-7.fc12
----------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Jakub Jelinek  4.4.2-7
- update from gcc-4_4-branch
  - PRs c++/40808, c/41842, cp-tools/39177
- VTA backports
  - PR bootstrap/41345
- don't emit DW_AT_name:  etc. into debug info
  (#530304, PR debug/41828)
- power7 ABI fixes (PR target/41787)
- fix ICE in ix86_pic_register_p (PR target/41762)

* Thu Oct 22 2009 Jakub Jelinek  4.4.2-6
- update from gcc-4_4-branch
  - PR target/41702
  - fix a pod2man error in gcc.1 (#530102)
  - fix mangling of very large names
- document -print-multi-os-directory in gcc.info and gcc.1
  (#529659, PR other/25507)

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Jakub Jelinek  4.4.2-5
- update from gcc-4_4-branch
  - PR fortran/41755
  - s390 z10 tuning fixes
- provide accurate attributes for powerpc builtins (PR target/23983)
- fix -fcompare-debug differences caused by DCE removal of debug stmts
- fix updating of speculation status with VTA (PR debug/41739)


gdesklets-0.36.1-7.fc12
-----------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Luya Tshimbalanga  0.36.1-7
- Add patch to address compatibility with python 2.6


gnome-applet-timer-2.1.2-4.fc12
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 2.1.2-4
- Require gnome-audio (#531877)


gnome-panel-2.28.0-12.fc12
--------------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Matthias Clasen  2.28.0-12
- Make padding work correctly in non-expanded panels (#529614)


gnome-power-manager-2.28.1-5.fc12
---------------------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-5
- Fix OSD showing a volume label when switching compositing off

* Wed Oct 28 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-4
- Match gnome-settings-daemon's positioning for the OSD

* Tue Oct 27 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.28.1-3
- Update OSD to match gnome-settings-daemon's


isdn4k-utils-3.2-67.fc12
------------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Than Ngo  - 3.2-67
- drop useless BR libXp-devel


jasper-1.900.1-14.fc12
----------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Rex Dieter  - 1.900.1-14
- add pkgconfig support


lat-1.2.3-10.fc12
-----------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Paul Howarth  1.2.3-10
- Fix deprecation warnings and port to new GtkTooltip API
- Build/Require gtk-sharp2 >= 2.12.0 for new GtkTooltip API
- Add upstream patch for FileSystemWatcher watches
- Add upstream patch for fixing crashes when adding objects
- Update icon cache scriptlets to current best practice
- Scrollkeeper obsoleted by rarian-compat; scriplets now redundant
- Don't need to own directory %{_datadir}/gnome (owned by filesystem)
- Don't need to own directory %{_datadir}/gnome/help (owned by yelp)
- Don't generate mono provides for private plugins
- Add bugzilla reference for ExcludeArch sparc64 (#531451)


libchamplain-0.4.2-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Debarshi Ray  - 0.4.2-1
- Version bump to 0.4.2.
  * Fixed acceptable values of "decel-rate". (GNOME Bugzilla #595552)
  * Fixed GObject Introspection build failure. (GNOME Bugzilla #598942)
  * http://download.gnome.org/sources/libchamplain/0.4/libchamplain-0.4.2.news
  * http://download.gnome.org/sources/libchamplain/0.4/libchamplain-0.4.2.changes

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Debarshi Ray  - 0.4.1-1
- Version bump to 0.4.1.
  * Added champlain_view_remove_layer.
  * ChamplainSelectionLayer now has a "changed" signal.
  * Added champlain_marker_get_highlighted_text_color,
    champlain_marker_set_highlighted_text_color and
    Added champlain_marker_get_highlighted_color.
  * Fixed slowdowns with big caches.
  * Don't emit invalid latitude and longitude notifications.
  * Ensure map is displayed in Eye of GNOME's champlain plugin. (GNOME
    Bugzilla #598106)
  * http://download.gnome.org/sources/libchamplain/0.4/libchamplain-0.4.1.news
  * http://download.gnome.org/sources/libchamplain/0.4/libchamplain-0.4.1.changes

- Enabled GObject Introspection, and added 'Requires: gobject-introspection'
  and 'BuildRequires: gir-repository-devel'. Patched to fix build failure.
  (GNOME Bugzilla #598942)
- Explicitly disabled debug code.
- RPaths fixed by upstream. Removed 'BuildRequires: chrpath'.


libguestfs-1.0.75-1.fc12
------------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Richard W.M. Jones  - 1.0.75-1
- New upstream release 1.0.75.
- New library: libhivex.
- New tools: virt-win-reg, hivexml, hivexget.
- Don't require chntpw.


moblin-icon-theme-0.9-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Peter Robinson  0.9-1
- New upstream 0.9 release


mono-zeroconf-0.9.0-2.fc12
--------------------------

openoffice.org-3.1.1-19.14.fc12
-------------------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Caol?n McNamara  - 1:3.1.1-19.14
- Resolves: ooo#103757 custom shape cut and paste (caolanm)
- Resolves: rhbz#529746 crash on exit after loading .ppt (caolanm)
- Resolves: rhbz#531554 add workspace.chart41.patch (caolanm)

* Mon Oct 19 2009 Caol?n McNamara  - 1:3.1.1-19.13
- Resolves: ooo#105988 a11y crash in impress (caolanm)
- Related: rhbz#529521 add openoffice.org-3.2.0.oooXXXXXX.vcl.dontresolve.patch
  (caolanm)

* Thu Oct 15 2009 Caol?n McNamara  - 1:3.1.1-19.12
- Resolves: rhbz#528409 [si_LK] Default font in oowriter is not
  Language Default (LKLUG), but DejaVu Sans (dtardon)
- Resolves: rhbz#529127 [Indic][Various] Default font in oowriter is
  not Language Default (Lohit or Other), but DejaVu Sans (dtardon)


openssh-5.2p1-30.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Jan F. Chadima  - 5.2p1-30
- Modify the init script to prevent it to hang during generating the keys (#515145)


pam-1.1.0-6.fc12
----------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Tomas Mraz  1.1.0-6
- pam_xauth: set the approprate context when creating .xauth files (#531530)


perl-Array-Compare-2.01-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 2.01-1
- new upstream version, BR perl(Moose)


perl-Authen-SASL-2.13-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 2.13-1
- new upstream version, BR Test::More


perl-Business-ISBN-Data-20081208-1.fc12
---------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 20081208-1
- new upstream version


perl-Cache-Memcached-1.27-1.fc12
--------------------------------

perl-Class-Accessor-0.34-1.fc12
-------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 0.34-1
- new upstream version


perl-Devel-Cycle-1.11-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1.11-1
- new upstream version


perl-Devel-Symdump-2.08-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1:2.08-1
- new upstream version


perl-File-Which-1.09-1.fc12
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1.09-1
- new upstream version


perl-GD-2.44-2.fc12
-------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 2.44-2
- give up tests on ppc

* Mon Oct 05 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 2.44-1
- new upstream version
- run tests always
- do not add bdf_scripts/ to docs
- switch off the test that fails in i686 koji


perl-MIME-Types-1.28-1.fc12
---------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1.28-1
- new upstream version


perl-Module-Find-0.08-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 0.08-1
- new upstream version


perl-PadWalker-1.9-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1.9-1
- new upstream version


perl-Parse-CPAN-Meta-1.40-1.fc12
--------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1.40-1
- new upstream version


perl-SOAP-Lite-0.710.10-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 0.710.10-1
- new upstream release
- drop upstreamed patch
- add missing build requires
- use %filter-* macros


perl-String-Format-1.16-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1.16-1
- new upstream release


perl-Test-CPAN-Meta-0.13-1.fc12
-------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 0.13-1
- update to new upstream release


perl-Test-SubCalls-1.09-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 1.09-1
- update to new upstream release


perl-Text-CSV_XS-0.68-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 0.68-1
- update to new upstream release


perl-UNIVERSAL-can-1.15-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 1.15-1
- update to new upstream release


perl-UNIVERSAL-isa-1.03-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 1.03-1
- update to new upstream release


perl-UNIVERSAL-require-0.13-1.fc12
----------------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 0.13-1
- update to new upstream release


perl-URI-1.40-1.fc12
--------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 1.40-1
- update to new upstream release


perl-XML-NamespaceSupport-1.10-1.fc12
-------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 06 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 1.10-1
- update to new upstream release


perl-YAML-0.70-2.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 0.70-2
- rebuild for push

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Marcela Ma?l??ov?  - 0.70-1
- new upstream version


pyabiword-0.8.0-1.fc12
----------------------
* Mon Oct 26 2009 Marc Maurer  - 0.8.0-1
- New upstream release


pykickstart-1.64-1.fc12
-----------------------
* Wed Sep 30 2009 Chris Lumens  - 1.64-1
- Update the zfcp command for F12 (#526360).
- Move "make" to %build
LANG=C
export LANG
unset DISPLAY
 (#524215).


python-meh-0.6-1.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 08 2009 Chris Lumens  - 0.6-1
- Make idSkipList work again.
- Support dumping objects derived from Python's object.
- Use the right method to set text on a snack.Entry (#526884).


quodlibet-2.1-3.fc12
--------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie  - 2.1-3
- Require gstreamer-plugins-good - BZ#531664


raptor-1.4.18-5.fc12
--------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Orcan Ogetbil  - 1.4.18-5
- Fix multilib conflict (RHBZ#477342)


ruby-1.8.6.383-4.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 1.8.6.383-4
- Use bison to regenerate parse.c to keep the original format of error
  messages (bug 530275 comment 4)

* Sun Oct 25 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 1.8.6.383-3
- Patch so that irb saves its history (bug 518584, ruby issue 1556)

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 1.8.6.383-2
- Update to 1.8.6 patchlevel 383 (bug 520063)


tcl-trf-2.1.4-1.fc12
--------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 2.1.4-1
- Update to 2.1.4


urw-fonts-2.4-9.fc12
--------------------
* Tue Oct 27 2009 Than Ngo  - 2.4-9
- fix #77314, invalid URL


wxGTK-2.8.10-6.fc12
-------------------
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Dan Hor?k  - 2.8.10-6
- add fix for wrong menubar height when using larger system font (#528376)


xemacs-21.5.29-6.fc12
---------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Jerry James  - 21.5.29-6
- Bring back the courier font patch; that was a red herring.
- Really, seriously fix bz 512623 with a TTY font patch.
- Fix the version number in macros.xemacs.
- Build with bignum support.
- Turn off OSS support.


xemacs-packages-extra-20090217-4.fc12
-------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Jerry James  - 20090217-4
- Fix LaTeX BRs.
- Update apel-xemacs Provides.


xfburn-0.4.2-2.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.4.2-2
- Fix infinite loop in blank disk dialog (#525515)
- Don't crash on burning ISO image (#525518)


xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.15-2.fc12
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Adam Jackson  2.1.15-2
- nv-2.1.15-g80-nop-gamma.patch: Install a no-op gamma hook so we don't
  crash immediately on init.


yaboot-1.3.14-23.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Roman Rakus  - 1.3.14-23
- When netbooting "clobber" the LOAD_BUFFER and move the kernel into it to make
  room for RTAS (#530330)
- Adding better netboot support more work on (#458438)


ypbind-1.20.4-20.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Karel Klic  - 3:1.20.4-20
- Bind to domain even if not using NetworkManager
  The fix uses  only the code from upstream ypbind-mt-1.29.91
  Resolves: #531398


zyx-liveinstaller-0.1.16-1.fc12
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  - 0.1.16-1
- update to new upstream release


Summary:
Added Packages: 4
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 70



From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Fri Oct 30 10:48:53 2009
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick List)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:48:53 +0100
Subject: Possible blocker bug? kernel: tpm_tis 00:0a: tpm_transmit: tpm_send:
 error -62
Message-ID: <4AEAC495.5000100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Hi,

Is this a possible blocker bug? It results in a hanging kernel during 
boot on some Acer and Lenovo laptops. Latest kernel I tested that has 
this issue is kernel-2.6.31.5-97 and the Changelog of newer kernels on 
koji don't mention a fix for this issue.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530393

More information here:

http://marc.info/?l=tpmdd-devel&m=125264269616715&w=2

I'll be happy to test any new kernel you can throw at me and will join 
the blocker bug meeting in #fedora-qa tomorrow to see what you guys think.

Cheers,
Patrick



From kvolny at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 12:16:36 2009
From: kvolny at redhat.com (Karel =?iso-8859-1?q?Voln=FD?=)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:16:36 +0100
Subject: Tame the Gnome filesystem monster!
In-Reply-To: <20091025102418.6ab65a26@zooty>
References: <20091025102418.6ab65a26@zooty>
Message-ID: <200910301316.40863.kvolny@redhat.com>


...
> I swear there is a huge market for a 600 page book named
> 
> "Linux: Make It Stop!"
> 
> (if only I knew how to write it :-).

so, for Microsoft Windows, there is this site:
http://www.annoyances.org/

is there anything similar for Linux?

... are you going to start it? - easier than writing the book ;-)

K.

-- 
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From tom.horsley at att.net  Fri Oct 30 12:29:25 2009
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:29:25 -0400
Subject: Tame the Gnome filesystem monster!
In-Reply-To: <200910301316.40863.kvolny@redhat.com>
References: <20091025102418.6ab65a26@zooty>
	<200910301316.40863.kvolny@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20091030082925.32dadc30@zooty>

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:16:36 +0100
Karel Voln? wrote:

> so, for Microsoft Windows, there is this site:
> http://www.annoyances.org/
> 
> is there anything similar for Linux?
> 
> ... are you going to start it? - easier than writing the book ;-)

Well, I wrote this a while back:

http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley/stick.html

but the real problem with linux is that anytime it seems likely
someone has figured out how to thwart annoying behavior they
rewrite it all and you have to start from scratch (just like
the filesystem hiding here that changed from hal xml files
to udev scripts).



From caf at omen.com  Fri Oct 30 14:41:47 2009
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:41:47 -0700
Subject: Showstopper: Rawhide still won't install on ATI 2600XT
Message-ID: <4AEAFB2B.80705@omen.com>

The ATI driver is still hosed.  Repeat by:  load
today's Fedora 12 rawhide 64.  When it gets to
the timezone setting window, move the mouse
around.  After several seconds the Fedora stops
displaying city names and ignore mouse clicks.
If the time zone is set by selecting a city from the
list, the screen will go blank later, typically
during the hard drive setup.

System has an ATI 2600XT on an ECS motherboard
with AMD 6000+ CPU.  I ran some 20+ passes of
Memtest yesterday without error.  Ubuntu 9.10
pre-release installed and runs without difficulty.

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From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 14:53:11 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:53:11 -0700
Subject: Possible blocker bug? kernel: tpm_tis 00:0a: tpm_transmit:
 tpm_send: error -62
In-Reply-To: <4AEAC495.5000100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
References: <4AEAC495.5000100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <1256914391.2314.78.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 11:48 +0100, Patrick List wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is this a possible blocker bug? It results in a hanging kernel during 
> boot on some Acer and Lenovo laptops. Latest kernel I tested that has 
> this issue is kernel-2.6.31.5-97 and the Changelog of newer kernels on 
> koji don't mention a fix for this issue.
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530393
> 
> More information here:
> 
> http://marc.info/?l=tpmdd-devel&m=125264269616715&w=2
> 
> I'll be happy to test any new kernel you can throw at me and will join 
> the blocker bug meeting in #fedora-qa tomorrow to see what you guys think.

Given that the system isn't permanently down, I'm not sure it'd count as
a blocker, but it'd be nice to have a fix before final...well, I can
throw it on the list for the meeting.

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From kdekorte at gmail.com  Fri Oct 30 14:55:55 2009
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:55:55 -0600
Subject: Showstopper: Rawhide still won't install on ATI 2600XT
In-Reply-To: <4AEAFB2B.80705@omen.com>
References: <4AEAFB2B.80705@omen.com>
Message-ID: <4AEAFE7B.4060308@gmail.com>

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On 10/30/2009 08:41 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> The ATI driver is still hosed.  Repeat by:  load
> today's Fedora 12 rawhide 64.  When it gets to
> the timezone setting window, move the mouse
> around.  After several seconds the Fedora stops
> displaying city names and ignore mouse clicks.
> If the time zone is set by selecting a city from the
> list, the screen will go blank later, typically
> during the hard drive setup.
> 
> System has an ATI 2600XT on an ECS motherboard
> with AMD 6000+ CPU.  I ran some 20+ passes of
> Memtest yesterday without error.  Ubuntu 9.10
> pre-release installed and runs without difficulty.
> 

Chuck,

What kernel is that using? If it is -96 you will need to add
pcie_aspm=off to the kernel line in grub. If it is -97 then that problem
should be fixed. If it is not fixed then please comment on bug

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517625

Kevin
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 15:00:59 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:00:59 -0700
Subject: Showstopper: Rawhide still won't install on ATI 2600XT
In-Reply-To: <4AEAFB2B.80705@omen.com>
References: <4AEAFB2B.80705@omen.com>
Message-ID: <1256914859.2314.81.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 07:41 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> The ATI driver is still hosed.  Repeat by:  load
> today's Fedora 12 rawhide 64.  When it gets to
> the timezone setting window, move the mouse
> around.  After several seconds the Fedora stops
> displaying city names and ignore mouse clicks.
> If the time zone is set by selecting a city from the
> list, the screen will go blank later, typically
> during the hard drive setup.
> 
> System has an ATI 2600XT on an ECS motherboard
> with AMD 6000+ CPU.  I ran some 20+ passes of
> Memtest yesterday without error.  Ubuntu 9.10
> pre-release installed and runs without difficulty.

It would really help if you would report to Bugzilla, not a mailing
list. We already have three open bugs tracking potential F12 r600+ hang
bugs. I can't track stuff that's just written in an email.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517625
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528593
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531147

-- 
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 30 16:00:57 2009
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:00:57 +0000
Subject: Testing request: possible ext4 corruption issue
In-Reply-To: <1256841733.2314.52.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256841733.2314.52.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AEB0DB9.4050701@hi.is>

On 10/29/2009 06:42 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> It's also worth noting J?hann and I both came to this report via the
> somewhat dubious Ubuntu report at
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453579

FEI No I did not nor did I ever mention that I did [1].

Please refrain from associating me with anything regarding Canonical/Ubuntu.

JBG

[?]
 jlaska: Just noticed that selinux is blocking vbetool (
unsafe memory operation filed.. ) which might be causing this have
suspended the laptop and will leave it so overnight and see if I can
resume into desktop tomorrow morning..
 with memory protection off..
 adamw: jlaska: encase you are unaware we might have a serious blocker
here http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14354#c117
 Bug 14354: normal, P1, ---, fs_ext4 at kernel-bugs.osdl.org, NEW,
Bad corruption with 2.6.32-rc1 and upwards
 Viking-Ice: we are not shipping kernel 2.6.32. hence, no problem.
 Viking-Ice: i've seen the ubuntu bug report, it does not convince me.
especially since we've had no fedora reports.
 oh, heh. didn't see that comment link. hold, while i read
 "(+ "yum update" + current -git kernel)"
 comment 117
 he wasn't running the stock fedora kernel
 I think it's best to ping sandeen about this since he's
there in the midst of the report
 yeah, i think i'll ping sandeen and linus for an evaluation
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 17:03:49 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:03:49 -0700
Subject: Testing request: possible ext4 corruption issue
In-Reply-To: <4AEB0DB9.4050701@hi.is>
References: <1256841733.2314.52.camel@adam.local.net> <4AEB0DB9.4050701@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1256922229.2314.82.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 16:00 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> On 10/29/2009 06:42 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > It's also worth noting J?hann and I both came to this report via the
> > somewhat dubious Ubuntu report at
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453579
> 
> FEI No I did not nor did I ever mention that I did [1].
> 
> Please refrain from associating me with anything regarding Canonical/Ubuntu.

oh, sorry, I just figured that's how you'd seen it as it was being
fairly widely discussed that day.

-- 
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From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Fri Oct 30 17:19:12 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:19:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: should broadcom BCM4318 wireless work out of the box?
Message-ID: 


  i ask since i'd like to finally install f12 x86_64 beta on one of my
laptops this weekend, but i might have to do it where i won't have
access to wired networking, only wireless.  so if getting broadcom
wireless needs a wired connection to download anything after the
install, i'm pretty much screwed.

  theoretically, what should i expect?  thanks.

rday
--


========================================================================
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            Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
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From limb at jcomserv.net  Fri Oct 30 17:31:57 2009
From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:31:57 -0500
Subject: should broadcom BCM4318 wireless work out of the box?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4AEB230D.9060601@jcomserv.net>

There's a b43 open-source firmware in the default install now, so it 
*should* work.  I'm using it right now, and it's good.

Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   i ask since i'd like to finally install f12 x86_64 beta on one of my
> laptops this weekend, but i might have to do it where i won't have
> access to wired networking, only wireless.  so if getting broadcom
> wireless needs a wired connection to download anything after the
> install, i'm pretty much screwed.
>
>   theoretically, what should i expect?  thanks.
>
> rday
> --
>
>
> ========================================================================
> Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
>
>             Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry.
>
> Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
> Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
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>
>   


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in your fear, seek only love

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From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Fri Oct 30 17:49:27 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:49:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: should broadcom BCM4318 wireless work out of the box?
In-Reply-To: <4AEB230D.9060601@jcomserv.net>
References: 
	<4AEB230D.9060601@jcomserv.net>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Jon Ciesla wrote:

> There's a b43 open-source firmware in the default install now, so it
> *should* work.  I'm using it right now, and it's good.
>
> Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >   i ask since i'd like to finally install f12 x86_64 beta on one
> > of my laptops this weekend, but i might have to do it where i
> > won't have access to wired networking, only wireless.  so if
> > getting broadcom wireless needs a wired connection to download
> > anything after the install, i'm pretty much screwed.

  ok, i'll take a chance this weekend.  what i'm really interested in
is ATI radeon support, particularly for my xpress 200m.  if anyone can
report on how well that's working for them, i definitely want to know.

rday
--

========================================================================
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            Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri Oct 30 18:22:14 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:22:14 -0500
Subject: should broadcom BCM4318 wireless work out of the box?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<4AEB230D.9060601@jcomserv.net>
	
Message-ID: <20091030182214.GB23858@wolff.to>

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 13:49:27 -0400,
  "Robert P. J. Day"  wrote:
>   ok, i'll take a chance this weekend.  what i'm really interested in
> is ATI radeon support, particularly for my xpress 200m.  if anyone can
> report on how well that's working for them, i definitely want to know.

I don't know about that specific card, but about a week ago my rv530 and
especially my rv280 based card started working much better. I haven't been
able to play 3d games on my rv280 for a couple of years and now I can again.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 18:27:45 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:27:45 -0700
Subject: should broadcom BCM4318 wireless work out of the box?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<4AEB230D.9060601@jcomserv.net>
	
Message-ID: <1256927265.2314.85.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 13:49 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> 
> > There's a b43 open-source firmware in the default install now, so it
> > *should* work.  I'm using it right now, and it's good.
> >
> > Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > >   i ask since i'd like to finally install f12 x86_64 beta on one
> > > of my laptops this weekend, but i might have to do it where i
> > > won't have access to wired networking, only wireless.  so if
> > > getting broadcom wireless needs a wired connection to download
> > > anything after the install, i'm pretty much screwed.
> 
>   ok, i'll take a chance this weekend.  what i'm really interested in
> is ATI radeon support, particularly for my xpress 200m.  if anyone can
> report on how well that's working for them, i definitely want to know.

you might want to take a copy of the Broadcom firmware with you just in
case - the instructions for extracting it from the Windows driver with
b43-fwcutter are easy to find, and it's just a set of files that go
in /lib/firmware , so you could do the dump (you can do it on any
system) and stick the files on a USB key to take with you just in case
the open firmware doesn't work.

We did have some bad Xpress 200M bugs:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522129
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521512

but I think the worst is fixed now, so X generally works in default
kernel modesetting config. This bug appears to still be present, though:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531383

actually it'd be good if you could confirm/deny whether yours has that
problem.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From sgrubb at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 19:07:07 2009
From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:07:07 -0400
Subject: abrt
In-Reply-To: <200910251618.36843.gene@czarc.net>
References: <200910251605.50543.gene@czarc.net>
	<200910251618.36843.gene@czarc.net>
Message-ID: <200910301507.07257.sgrubb@redhat.com>

On Sunday 25 October 2009 04:18:36 pm Gene Czarcinski wrote:
> Even more of a problem is that even if you do invoke abrt-gui as root, you 
> still cannot report problems!

Even more of a problem is we now have a 3rd directory that has similar 
permissions as /tmp and has to be bind mounted to keep it from being a place 
where attackers can download, compile, and run applications.

But on your point about having to escalate privs to see some errors. I think 
that is the right thing to do from a security point of view.

-Steve



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri Oct 30 19:30:26 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:30:26 -0600
Subject: BCM 4318
Message-ID: <1256931026.8855.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

If the firmware is already in package kit, then why doesn't my wifi card
work out the box.   I am running Toshiba Satelite 1905 s303.  Help!!!!
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 19:42:19 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:42:19 -0700
Subject: BCM 4318
In-Reply-To: <1256931026.8855.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256931026.8855.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256931739.2314.86.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 13:30 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> If the firmware is already in package kit, then why doesn't my wifi card
> work out the box.   I am running Toshiba Satelite 1905 s303.  Help!!!!

you may have one of the broadcoms that doesn't work with it yet. we'd
need more details about your hardware. and also whether b43-openfwwf is
installed.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 19:43:21 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:43:21 -0700
Subject: Gnome problems after Rawhide update
In-Reply-To: <4AEAB55C.90700@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <4AEAB55C.90700@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <1256931801.2314.87.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 11:43 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
> After latest yum update to rawhide (thursday night) I am now getting 
> these errors when using gedit
> GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible 
> causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you 
> have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See 
> http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Server 
> ping error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/UNKNOWN:1.0)
> 
> Other gnome applications have the same error but are less forgiving and 
> crash. What has changed, and how do I work around?  I am a little bit 
> afraid to reboot if this is going to render the machine unusable. Advice?

gconfd isn't running for some reason.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri Oct 30 19:52:01 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:52:01 -0600
Subject: BCM 4318
In-Reply-To: <1256931739.2314.86.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256931026.8855.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256931739.2314.86.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1256932321.9547.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 12:42 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 13:30 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > If the firmware is already in package kit, then why doesn't my wifi card
> > work out the box.   I am running Toshiba Satelite 1905 s303.  Help!!!!
> 
> you may have one of the broadcoms that doesn't work with it yet. we'd
> need more details about your hardware. and also whether b43-openfwwf is
> installed.
> 
> -- 
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> http://www.happyassassin.net
> 
B43-openfwwf is installed.  I am working with Broadcom BCM4318 [AirForce
One 54g] 802.11 Wireless Land Controller (rev02) in Toshiba Satelite
1905 s303  32-bit Fedora 11.
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 21:14:16 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:14:16 -0700
Subject: BCM 4318
In-Reply-To: <1256932321.9547.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256931026.8855.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256931739.2314.86.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256932321.9547.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256937256.2314.88.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 13:52 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 12:42 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 13:30 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > > If the firmware is already in package kit, then why doesn't my wifi card
> > > work out the box.   I am running Toshiba Satelite 1905 s303.  Help!!!!
> > 
> > you may have one of the broadcoms that doesn't work with it yet. we'd
> > need more details about your hardware. and also whether b43-openfwwf is
> > installed.
> > 
> B43-openfwwf is installed.  I am working with Broadcom BCM4318 [AirForce
> One 54g] 802.11 Wireless Land Controller (rev02) in Toshiba Satelite
> 1905 s303  32-bit Fedora 11.

Check /var/log/messages and see if there's any errors in there (grep for
'b43').

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Fri Oct 30 22:15:23 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:15:23 -0600
Subject: BCM 4318
In-Reply-To: <1256937256.2314.88.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256931026.8855.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256931739.2314.86.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256932321.9547.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256937256.2314.88.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <1256940923.10508.1.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 14:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 13:52 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 12:42 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 13:30 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > > > If the firmware is already in package kit, then why doesn't my wifi card
> > > > work out the box.   I am running Toshiba Satelite 1905 s303.  Help!!!!
> > > 
> > > you may have one of the broadcoms that doesn't work with it yet. we'd
> > > need more details about your hardware. and also whether b43-openfwwf is
> > > installed.
> > > 
> > B43-openfwwf is installed.  I am working with Broadcom BCM4318 [AirForce
> > One 54g] 802.11 Wireless Land Controller (rev02) in Toshiba Satelite
> > 1905 s303  32-bit Fedora 11.
> 
> Check /var/log/messages and see if there's any errors in there (grep for
> 'b43').
> 
> -- 
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> http://www.happyassassin.net
> 
This is the whole message log from the Toshiba Satelite (see Attachment)
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 22:32:44 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:32:44 -0700
Subject: 2009-10-30 Fedora 12 blocker bug review meeting recap
Message-ID: <1256941964.2314.118.camel@adam.local.net>

(Scene: Curtain raises. A haggard figure stumbles in from stage left,
blinking at the lights.)

AdamW: Where am I? What year is this? WHO'S THE PRESIDENT?!

FIN

Yes, today's epic F12 blocker bug review meeting has finally ended. Some
statistics:

We reviewed 43 bugs in total. The meeting took 406 minutes, at an
average of 9.44 Minutes Per Bug (MPB). Thanks to Marko Myllynen for
suggesting the calculation. :)

We reduced the number of open blocker bugs (excluding second-level
blocker tracker bugs like the X, Anaconda, virtualization and KDE
trackers) from 43 to 25. Of the remaining 25, there is one in NEW state,
11 ASSIGNED, and 13 MODIFIED.

Here's the assignee breakdown for non-MODIFIED bugs:

2: Jerome Glisse, Adam Jackson
1: Dave Airlie, Ben Skeggs, Christoph Hellwig, David Zeuthen, William
Jon McCann, Jiri Moskovc, Matthias Clasen (probably mis-assigned), Steve
Dickson.

We have plans in hand for most of the remaining NEW and ASSIGNED bugs,
so overall the picture for getting all F12 blocker bugs resolved on time
is reasonably rosy as long as we get stuff done over the weekend and
early part of next week.

You can always find the current blocker list at:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=473303&hide_resolved=1

The summary of the meeting (highly recommended over the logs unless you
have a LOT of time) is available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2009-10-30/fedora-bugzappers.2009-10-30-15.01.html . The full log - for those looking for an insomnia cure - is at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2009-10-30/fedora-bugzappers.2009-10-30-15.01.log.html .

Huge thanks to James Laska, Jesse Keating, Ray Strode, Chuck Ebbert,
Jerome Glisse, Will Woods, Denise Dumas, Matthias Clasen, Dave Airlie,
Bill Nottingham, Filipe Rosset, Chris Lumens, Jeremy Katz, Marko
Myllynen, Eric Paris, Paul Frields, Seth Vidal and Ben Williams for
sticking around through Giganto-Meeting and providing all the necessary
input, this one was a real team effort.

If anyone has any ideas to reduce these meetings in time somewhat, they
would be greatly welcomed on test-list. I can't think of much that
wouldn't involve someone taking more executive decisions pre-meeting,
though.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Fri Oct 30 22:51:33 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:51:33 -0700
Subject: BCM 4318
In-Reply-To: <1256940923.10508.1.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256931026.8855.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256931739.2314.86.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256932321.9547.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256937256.2314.88.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256940923.10508.1.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1256943093.2314.121.camel@adam.local.net>

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 16:15 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote:

> > > B43-openfwwf is installed.  I am working with Broadcom BCM4318 [AirForce
> > > One 54g] 802.11 Wireless Land Controller (rev02) in Toshiba Satelite
> > > 1905 s303  32-bit Fedora 11.
> > 
> > Check /var/log/messages and see if there's any errors in there (grep for
> > 'b43').
> > 
> > -- 
> > Adam Williamson
> > Fedora QA Community Monkey
> > IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> > http://www.happyassassin.net
> > 
> This is the whole message log from the Toshiba Satelite (see Attachment)

plain text would have been a lot better.

Anyway, you get some errors from the b43 driver complaining about no
firmware being present. I suspect maybe the b43 driver in the current
F11 kernel is too old to know about openfwwf, or something. I don't
actually know if it's expected to work at all in F11, we've just been
discussing F12 so far.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Sat Oct 31 00:10:29 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:10:29 -0600
Subject: VMware Workstation 7 and rawhide
In-Reply-To: <4AE78F64.1050009@cygnusx-1.org>
References: <4AE78F64.1050009@cygnusx-1.org>
Message-ID: <1256947834.3305.4.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 17:25 -0700, Nathan Grennan wrote:
> Today I installed VMware Workstation 7 build 203739 x86_64 on my 
> rawhide system. It runs, but has issues with guests crashing when I try 
> to move the mouse cursor outside the guest's display area. In a terminal 
> window I get errors like the one below. The urls below are threads on 
> VMware's forums talking about the issue. It seems to have been narrowed 
> down to glibc-2.10.90. I looked into downgrading to 2.10.1, but found 
> that can't be done without breaking half the system. Like others I tried 
> downgrading libX11, without success.
> 
>   It get the impression from a little research that I have done that 
> Fedora 12 is going to be a mess with random applications, because of the 
> newer glibc. glibc's home page says 2.10.1 is the current stable 
> release. glibc-2.10.90 seems to be getting lots of fixes as of late. 
> glibc being such a core package can break almost anything if it isn't 
> stable. Fedora 12's release is only three weeks away.
> 
> vmware-vmx: xcb_io.c:542: _XRead: Assertion `dpy->xcb->reply_data != 
> ((void *)0)' failed.
> 
> http://communities.vmware.com/thread/236673?tstart=45
> http://communities.vmware.com/thread/229891?start=15&tstart=0
> 

Don't know if you got a response on this or not, but VMware released the
final version of Workstation 7 today.

I will try with F12RC on my laptop and let you know what I come up with.

Cheers,

Chris

--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From gtmkramer at xs4all.nl  Sat Oct 31 10:41:12 2009
From: gtmkramer at xs4all.nl (Jurgen Kramer)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:41:12 +0100
Subject: F12 beta i686 live CD hangs after starting udev
Message-ID: <1256985672.2786.10.camel@paragon.slim>

Just tried to see how far the F12 i686 beta live CD would come on my new
Archos 9 tablet. Booting stop when the progress bar is almost at 100%.
After booting with 'rhgb' and 'quiet' removed from the boot options I
can see it hangs at starting udev. Any tips how to investigate this
further?

The F11 i686 live CD boots without problems on this machine.

Jurgen



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct 31 11:07:06 2009
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:07:06 +0000
Subject: rawhide report: 20091031 changes
Message-ID: <20091031110706.GA5600@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sat Oct 31 06:15:21 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	1:nant-0.85-30.fc12.i686 requires mono(NDoc.Core) = 0:1.3.3498.0



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	1:nant-0.85-30.fc12.x86_64 requires mono(NDoc.Core) = 0:1.3.3498.0









Updated Packages:

argyllcms-1.0.4-3.fc12
----------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Richard Hughes  - 1.0.4-3
- Install the udev rules file so users can get the correct device
  permissions on F12 and above which does not use HAL policy files.


compiz-0.8.2-19.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Adel Gadllah  - 0.8.2-17
- Use better lables for keybindings


galeon-2.0.7-17.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Kevin Kofler  - 2.0.7-17
- Bump Release to fix upgrade path from F11


gnome-applet-timer-2.1.2-5.fc12
-------------------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 2.1.2-5
- Use default sound form sound-theme-freedesktop (#531877)


gutenprint-5.2.4-7.fc12
-----------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Tim Waugh  5.2.4-7
- Removed incorrect Device ID for Brother HL-2060 (bug #531370).


hplip-3.9.8-20.fc12
-------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Tim Waugh  3.9.8-20
- Reverted retry patch until it can be tested some more.

* Thu Oct 29 2009 Tim Waugh  3.9.8-19
- Retry when connecting to device fails (bug #528483).
- Avoid busy loop in hpcups when backend has exited (bug #525944).

* Wed Oct 28 2009 Tim Waugh  3.9.8-18
- Set a printer-state-reason when there's a missing required plugin
  (bug #531330).


jabbim-0.5-0.12.svn20091030.fc12
--------------------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Michal Schmidt  0.5-0.12.svn20091030
- Update to svn rev. 4233 (bugfixes and German translation update)
- Drop 3 upstreamed patches.


kcm-gtk-0.5.3-1.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Rex Dieter  0.5.3-1
- kcm-gtk-0.5.3
- .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 doesn't get used (#531788)


libvirt-0.7.1-15.fc12
---------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 0.7.1-14
- Make libvirt-devel require libvirt-client, not libvirt
- Fix xen driver recounting (#531429)
- Fix crash on virsh error (#531429)
- Fix segfault where XML parsing fails in qemu disk hotplug
- Fix segfault where interface target device name is ommitted (#523418)

* Thu Oct 29 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 0.7.1-15
- Avoid compressing small log files (#531030)


mingw32-dlfcn-0-0.7.r11.fc12
----------------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Erik van Pienbroek  - 0-0.7.r11
- Use %global instead of %define
- Automatically generate debuginfo subpackage
- Fixed %defattr line
- Added -static subpackage
- Fixed linker error with C++ applications


mingw32-gtk2-2.18.3-1.fc12
--------------------------
* Sat Oct 17 2009 Erik van Pienbroek  - 2.18.3-1
- Update to 2.18.3
- Drop upstreamed patch (GNOME BZ #597535)
- Re-enable GDI+ support as it's fixed upstream (GNOME BZ #552678)
- This release contains a workaround for a rendering bug which got
  introduced during the CSW merge (GNOME BZ #598299)

* Tue Oct 06 2009 Erik van Pienbroek  - 2.18.2-1
- Update to 2.18.2

* Thu Oct 01 2009 Erik van Pienbroek  - 2.18.1-1
- Update to 2.18.1


pacemaker-1.0.5-4.fc12
----------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Andrew Beekhof  - 1.0.5-4
- Include the fixes from CoroSync integration testing
- Move the resource templates - they're not documentation
- Ensure documentation is placed in a standard location
- Exclude documentation that is included elsewhere in the package

- Update the tarball from upstream to version ee19d8e83c2a
  + High: cib: Correctly clean up when both plaintext and tls remote ports are requested
  + High: PE: Bug bnc#515172 - Provide better defaults for lt(e) and gt(e) comparisions
  + High: PE: Bug lf#2197 - Allow master instances placemaker to be influenced by colocation constraints
  + High: PE: Make sure promote/demote pseudo actions are created correctly
  + High: PE: Prevent target-role from promoting more than master-max instances
  + High: ais: Bug lf#2199 - Prevent expected-quorum-votes from being populated with garbage
  + High: ais: Prevent deadlock - dont try to release IPC message if the connection failed
  + High: cib: For validation errors, send back the full CIB so the client can display the errors
  + High: cib: Prevent use-after-free for remote plaintext connections
  + High: crmd: Bug lf#2201 - Prevent use-of-NULL when running heartbeat


parole-0.1.91-1.fc12
--------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Christoph Wickert  - 0.1.91-1
- Update tp 0.1.91


perl-Business-ISBN-2.05-1.fc12
------------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 2.05-1
- new upstream version


perl-Digest-SHA1-2.12-1.fc12
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 05 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 2.12-1
- new upstream version


perl-MIME-Lite-3.026-2.fc12
---------------------------
* Wed Oct 07 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 3.26-1
- new upstream version
- fix buildrequires
- add requires not detected automatically

* Wed Oct 07 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 3.26-2
- no need to search for *.bs files in noarch rpm


perl-Test-Deep-0.106-1.fc12
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 0.106-1
- new upstream version


perl-Test-Pod-1.40-1.fc12
-------------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1.40-1
- new upstream version


perl-Test-Prereq-1.037-1.fc12
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Stepan Kasal  - 1.037-1
- new upstream version


qemu-0.11.0-9.fc12
------------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Mark McLoughlin  - 2:0.11.0-9
- Fix dropped packets with non-virtio NICs (#531419)


qt-4.5.3-7.fc12
---------------
* Thu Oct 29 2009 Than Ngo  - 4.5.3-7
- fix glib-even-loop issue, regression which causes
  Password dialogs get stuck


resource-agents-3.0.4-2.fc12
----------------------------
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Andrew Beekhof  - 3.0.4-2
- Update Pacameker agents to upstream version: e2338892f59f
  + High: send_arp - turn on unsolicited mode for compatibilty with the libnet version's exit codes
  + High: Trap sigterm for compatibility with the libnet version of send_arp
  + Medium: Bug - lf#2147: IPaddr2: behave if the interface is down
  + Medium: IPv6addr: recognize network masks properly
  + Medium: RA: VirtualDomain: avoid needlessly invoking "virsh define"


system-config-printer-1.1.13-6.fc12
-----------------------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.13-6
- Avoid traceback in IPP notification handlers (bug #530641).
- Avoid epydoc dependency.

* Thu Oct 29 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.13-5
- Added upstream patch for custom state reasons (bug #531872).
- Strip 'zjs' from make-and-model as well (bug #531869).

* Wed Oct 28 2009 Tim Waugh  1.1.13-4
- Troubleshoot: connect to the right server when choosing a network
  queue (bug #531482).
- Strip 'zxs' and 'pcl3' from make-and-model (bug #531048).
- Fixed visibility tracking for jobs window (bug #531438).
- Don't display properties dialog for first test page (bug #531490).
- Determine make/model for network printers (bug #524321).
- Auto-select the correct driver entry for raw queues.
- Avoid traceback in PhysicalDevice.py.
- Let Return key activate the Find button for Find Network Printer.


x86info-1.25-1.45.fc12
----------------------
* Fri Oct 30 2009 Dave Jones 
- Update to new upstream 1.25


xinetd-2.3.14-28.fc12
---------------------
* Tue Oct 20 2009 Jan Zeleny  - 2:2.3.14-27
- last update of init script modified to work with SELinux correctly

* Tue Oct 20 2009 Jan Zeleny  - 2:2.3.14-28
- added support for new configuration option - file limit for service


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 25



From joshuacov at googlemail.com  Sat Oct 31 11:09:31 2009
From: joshuacov at googlemail.com (Joshua C.)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:09:31 +0100
Subject: F12 beta i686 live CD hangs after starting udev
In-Reply-To: <1256985672.2786.10.camel@paragon.slim>
References: <1256985672.2786.10.camel@paragon.slim>
Message-ID: <5f6f8c5f0910310409k3f41e945nf20d1da47adb59e1@mail.gmail.com>

2009/10/31 Jurgen Kramer :
> Just tried to see how far the F12 i686 beta live CD would come on my new
> Archos 9 tablet. Booting stop when the progress bar is almost at 100%.
> After booting with 'rhgb' and 'quiet' removed from the boot options I
> can see it hangs at starting udev. Any tips how to investigate this
> further?
>
> The F11 i686 live CD boots without problems on this machine.
>
> Jurgen
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

In my case starting udev takes almost a minute in order to start. In
f11 it needs about 3 secs.



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 31 11:22:07 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:22:07 -0400
Subject: F12 beta i686 live CD hangs after starting udev
In-Reply-To: <5f6f8c5f0910310409k3f41e945nf20d1da47adb59e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1256985672.2786.10.camel@paragon.slim>
	<5f6f8c5f0910310409k3f41e945nf20d1da47adb59e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091031112207.GD14699@blackhare>

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:09:31PM +0100, Joshua C. wrote:
> 2009/10/31 Jurgen Kramer :
> > Just tried to see how far the F12 i686 beta live CD would come on my new
> > Archos 9 tablet. Booting stop when the progress bar is almost at 100%.
> > After booting with 'rhgb' and 'quiet' removed from the boot options I
> > can see it hangs at starting udev. Any tips how to investigate this
> > further?
> >
> > The F11 i686 live CD boots without problems on this machine.
> >
> > Jurgen
> >
> > --
> >
> 
> In my case starting udev takes almost a minute in order to start. In
> f11 it needs about 3 secs.
>

I had that problem as well, its caused by not having floopy disabled in the bios. The fixes are the common bugs page for F11. 

TK009



From hughsient at gmail.com  Sat Oct 31 12:27:46 2009
From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:27:46 +0000
Subject: BCM 4318
In-Reply-To: <1256943093.2314.121.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256931026.8855.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256931739.2314.86.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256932321.9547.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256937256.2314.88.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256940923.10508.1.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256943093.2314.121.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <15e53e180910310527p23130444m63ccd36ba4855872@mail.gmail.com>

2009/10/30 Adam Williamson :
> F11 kernel is too old to know about openfwwf, or something. I don't
> actually know if it's expected to work at all in F11, we've just been
> discussing F12 so far.

openfwwf only works on some cards. It's probably a good idea to check
compatibility.

Richard.



From lgraves at risingstarmbc.com  Sat Oct 31 12:33:10 2009
From: lgraves at risingstarmbc.com (Lawrence E Graves)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:33:10 -0600
Subject: BCM 4318
In-Reply-To: <15e53e180910310527p23130444m63ccd36ba4855872@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1256931026.8855.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256931739.2314.86.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256932321.9547.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256937256.2314.88.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256940923.10508.1.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256943093.2314.121.camel@adam.local.net>
	<15e53e180910310527p23130444m63ccd36ba4855872@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1256992390.3286.9.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>

On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 12:27 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
> 2009/10/30 Adam Williamson :
> > F11 kernel is too old to know about openfwwf, or something. I don't
> > actually know if it's expected to work at all in F11, we've just been
> > discussing F12 so far.
> 
> openfwwf only works on some cards. It's probably a good idea to check
> compatibility.
> 
> Richard.
> 
Does it work in Fedora 12?
-- 
Lawrence E Graves 



From tirloni at gmail.com  Sat Oct 31 13:21:03 2009
From: tirloni at gmail.com (Giovanni Tirloni)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:21:03 -0200
Subject: 2009-10-30 Fedora 12 blocker bug review meeting recap
In-Reply-To: <1256941964.2314.118.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <1256941964.2314.118.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> You can always find the current blocker list at:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=473303&hide_resolved=1

Regarding bug 474225 (Touchpad doesn't work in installer), what would
be the proper way for me to test the new anaconda build ?

-- 
Giovanni.



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Sat Oct 31 14:06:39 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:06:39 -0600
Subject: VMware Workstation on F12B...
Message-ID: <1256998004.22452.6.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>

For those of you following the story, there is a thread on the VMware
Communities thread about VMware Workstation 7 and it's issues running on
Fedora 12 Beta.

You can find the entire sad story at:

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/239371?tstart=15

and (also referenced in the thread above)

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/229891?tstart=0

It's apparently an issue with glibc versions that is apparently at the
core. Hopefully we'll see this get worked out by the respective Fedora
and VMware teams by the time F12 releases. In the meantime, it looks
like we will have to wait for the zealots on both sides to stop fussing
and actually get to fixing the problem.

Cheers,

Chris


--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From bruno at wolff.to  Sat Oct 31 14:36:16 2009
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:36:16 -0500
Subject: BCM 4318
In-Reply-To: <1256992390.3286.9.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
References: <1256931026.8855.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256931739.2314.86.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256932321.9547.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256937256.2314.88.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256940923.10508.1.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256943093.2314.121.camel@adam.local.net>
	<15e53e180910310527p23130444m63ccd36ba4855872@mail.gmail.com>
	<1256992390.3286.9.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20091031143616.GC23171@wolff.to>

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 06:33:10 -0600,
  Lawrence E Graves  wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 12:27 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > 2009/10/30 Adam Williamson :
> > > F11 kernel is too old to know about openfwwf, or something. I don't
> > > actually know if it's expected to work at all in F11, we've just been
> > > discussing F12 so far.
> > 
> > openfwwf only works on some cards. It's probably a good idea to check
> > compatibility.
> > 
> > Richard.
> > 
> Does it work in Fedora 12?

People have reported it as working on fresh installs of F12.



From dgboles at gmail.com  Sat Oct 31 14:53:10 2009
From: dgboles at gmail.com (David)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:53:10 -0400
Subject: VMware Workstation on F12B...
In-Reply-To: <1256998004.22452.6.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
References: <1256998004.22452.6.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
Message-ID: <4AEC4F56.8040500@gmail.com>

On 10/31/2009 10:06 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> For those of you following the story, there is a thread on the VMware
> Communities thread about VMware Workstation 7 and it's issues running on
> Fedora 12 Beta.
> 
> You can find the entire sad story at:
> 
> http://communities.vmware.com/thread/239371?tstart=15
> 
> and (also referenced in the thread above)
> 
> http://communities.vmware.com/thread/229891?tstart=0
> 
> It's apparently an issue with glibc versions that is apparently at the
> core. Hopefully we'll see this get worked out by the respective Fedora
> and VMware teams by the time F12 releases. In the meantime, it looks
> like we will have to wait for the zealots on both sides to stop fussing
> and actually get to fixing the problem.


My guess is that Fedora will not do anything since this is not their
problem.


-- 


  David

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From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sat Oct 31 15:35:54 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:35:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: some odd package group selections in f12 beta
Message-ID: 


  finally getting around to f12 beta, and some of the groupings of
software seem a bit odd.

* wouldn't "publican" make sense under "Authoring and Publishing"?
and perhaps "xmlto"?  others?

* under Editors, what about gedit?  nano?  pico?

* how did minicom end in "Electronic Lab"?

* under Servers, why does "Directory Server" represent samba, while
"Windows File Server" represents system-config-samba?  that's just
weird, isn't it?

* i'm sure i'll regret asking this, but why isn't "httpd" listed under
"Web Server"?

  you get the idea.

rday
-- 

========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

            Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Sat Oct 31 15:46:51 2009
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:46:51 -0600
Subject: VMware Workstation on F12B...
In-Reply-To: <4AEC4F56.8040500@gmail.com>
References: <1256998004.22452.6.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	<4AEC4F56.8040500@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1257004016.22452.10.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>

On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 10:53 -0400, David wrote:
> On 10/31/2009 10:06 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > For those of you following the story, there is a thread on the VMware
> > Communities thread about VMware Workstation 7 and it's issues running on
> > Fedora 12 Beta.
> > 
> > You can find the entire sad story at:
> > 
> > http://communities.vmware.com/thread/239371?tstart=15
> > 
> > and (also referenced in the thread above)
> > 
> > http://communities.vmware.com/thread/229891?tstart=0
> > 
> > It's apparently an issue with glibc versions that is apparently at the
> > core. Hopefully we'll see this get worked out by the respective Fedora
> > and VMware teams by the time F12 releases. In the meantime, it looks
> > like we will have to wait for the zealots on both sides to stop fussing
> > and actually get to fixing the problem.
> 
> 
> My guess is that Fedora will not do anything since this is not their
> problem.

I would hope that they at least cooperate, even if it is technically not
their problem.

>From some inside discussions I have caught wind of, this attitude is
partially why VMware doesn't support Fedora with more than
"experimental" status, but provides full support for other competing
(Debian based) distros.

Thus my statement about stopping the fussing - on both sides - and
starting to cooperate more.


--
=============================
"You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?'
I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'"

-- George Bernard Shaw





From dgboles at gmail.com  Sat Oct 31 16:02:45 2009
From: dgboles at gmail.com (David)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:02:45 -0400
Subject: VMware Workstation on F12B...
In-Reply-To: <1257004016.22452.10.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
References: <1256998004.22452.6.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>	<4AEC4F56.8040500@gmail.com>
	<1257004016.22452.10.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
Message-ID: <4AEC5FA5.9050505@gmail.com>

On 10/31/2009 11:46 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 10:53 -0400, David wrote:
>> On 10/31/2009 10:06 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>>> For those of you following the story, there is a thread on the VMware
>>> Communities thread about VMware Workstation 7 and it's issues running on
>>> Fedora 12 Beta.
>>>
>>> You can find the entire sad story at:
>>>
>>> http://communities.vmware.com/thread/239371?tstart=15
>>>
>>> and (also referenced in the thread above)
>>>
>>> http://communities.vmware.com/thread/229891?tstart=0
>>>
>>> It's apparently an issue with glibc versions that is apparently at the
>>> core. Hopefully we'll see this get worked out by the respective Fedora
>>> and VMware teams by the time F12 releases. In the meantime, it looks
>>> like we will have to wait for the zealots on both sides to stop fussing
>>> and actually get to fixing the problem.
>>
>>
>> My guess is that Fedora will not do anything since this is not their
>> problem.
> 
> I would hope that they at least cooperate, even if it is technically not
> their problem.
> 
>>From some inside discussions I have caught wind of, this attitude is
> partially why VMware doesn't support Fedora with more than
> "experimental" status, but provides full support for other competing
> (Debian based) distros.
> 
> Thus my statement about stopping the fussing - on both sides - and
> starting to cooperate more.


Again. My guess? Fedora will work just as hard to solve this as they do
for Nvidia problems. ATI problems. And any other proprietary software
problems.

And that VMware treats Fedora as 'experimental' because Fedora is a
cutting edge distribution.

In other words? I would not hold my breath for this to happen.  :-)

May I suggest that you try Virtualbox? It works quite well with Fedora
and they support the Fedora releases. And there are rpms for
Rawhide/Fedora 12 also.
-- 


  David

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From tmz at pobox.com  Sat Oct 31 16:05:05 2009
From: tmz at pobox.com (Todd Zullinger)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:05:05 -0400
Subject: VMware Workstation on F12B...
In-Reply-To: <1257004016.22452.10.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
References: <1256998004.22452.6.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
	<4AEC4F56.8040500@gmail.com>
	<1257004016.22452.10.camel@spikehome.spikelan.local>
Message-ID: <20091031160505.GD31109@inocybe.localdomain>

Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> I would hope that they at least cooperate, even if it is technically
> not their problem.

There's nothing to cooperate on, it's just a matter of time before
VMware updates their software to work with the newer glibc.  Fedora
moves forward faster than large, proprietary software vendors do, so
it's no surprise that we see this sort of thing with each new Fedora
release.

-- 
Todd        OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips,
pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come.
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From awilliam at redhat.com  Sat Oct 31 16:20:28 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:20:28 -0700
Subject: BCM 4318
In-Reply-To: <15e53e180910310527p23130444m63ccd36ba4855872@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1256931026.8855.4.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256931739.2314.86.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256932321.9547.3.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256937256.2314.88.camel@adam.local.net>
	<1256940923.10508.1.camel@Jehovah.localdomain>
	<1256943093.2314.121.camel@adam.local.net>
	<15e53e180910310527p23130444m63ccd36ba4855872@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1257006028.2314.134.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 12:27 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
> 2009/10/30 Adam Williamson :
> > F11 kernel is too old to know about openfwwf, or something. I don't
> > actually know if it's expected to work at all in F11, we've just been
> > discussing F12 so far.
> 
> openfwwf only works on some cards. It's probably a good idea to check
> compatibility.

"Known supported boards until now: 4306, 4311(rev1), 4318 and 4320"

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From awilliam at redhat.com  Sat Oct 31 16:24:41 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:24:41 -0700
Subject: 2009-10-30 Fedora 12 blocker bug review meeting recap
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1256941964.2314.118.camel@adam.local.net>
	
Message-ID: <1257006281.2314.138.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 11:21 -0200, Giovanni Tirloni wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> > You can always find the current blocker list at:
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=473303&hide_resolved=1
> 
> Regarding bug 474225 (Touchpad doesn't work in installer), what would
> be the proper way for me to test the new anaconda build ?

Wait until it's tagged into the F12 tree and synced to mirrors, then try
a network install from a public mirror.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Sat Oct 31 16:37:51 2009
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:37:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: f12 beta still loses "next", "cancel" buttons off of RHS of screen
 during firstboot
Message-ID: 


  i installed f12 beta x86_64 on my gateway mx7120 with the
aforementioned ati radeon xpress 200m video, and while the
installation seemed to go just fine, upon reboot when i hop into
firstboot, i am still losing the right side of the screen, to the
point where what i assume are the "next" and/or "cancel" buttons are
not visible.

  i mentioned this before and someone else from red hat (adam
williamson?) filed a BZ report on this.  from my perspective, this
behaviour is a definite blocker if someone can't reasonably run
firstboot right after an install.

rday
--


========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day                               Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

            Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry.

Web page:                                          http://crashcourse.ca
Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
========================================================================



From joshuacov at googlemail.com  Sat Oct 31 18:48:17 2009
From: joshuacov at googlemail.com (Joshua C.)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:48:17 +0100
Subject: F12 beta i686 live CD hangs after starting udev
In-Reply-To: <20091031112207.GD14699@blackhare>
References: <1256985672.2786.10.camel@paragon.slim>
	<5f6f8c5f0910310409k3f41e945nf20d1da47adb59e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091031112207.GD14699@blackhare>
Message-ID: <5f6f8c5f0910311148w13d17783i3db46b734f4da2e7@mail.gmail.com>

2009/10/31 TK009 :
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:09:31PM +0100, Joshua C. wrote:
>> 2009/10/31 Jurgen Kramer :
>> > Just tried to see how far the F12 i686 beta live CD would come on my new
>> > Archos 9 tablet. Booting stop when the progress bar is almost at 100%.
>> > After booting with 'rhgb' and 'quiet' removed from the boot options I
>> > can see it hangs at starting udev. Any tips how to investigate this
>> > further?
>> >
>> > The F11 i686 live CD boots without problems on this machine.
>> >
>> > Jurgen
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>>
>> In my case starting udev takes almost a minute in order to start. In
>> f11 it needs about 3 secs.
>>
>
> I had that problem as well, its caused by not having floopy disabled in the bios. The fixes are the common bugs page for F11.
>
> TK009
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
 There is no floppy on my laptop and there's nothing about it in the
bios. What should i disbale???



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 31 19:27:07 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:27:07 -0400
Subject: Where's Konqueror in SU
Message-ID: <4AEC8F8B.4090009@sbcglobal.net>

FC12/KDE

Were is Konqueror in Root ?

Konqueror can only be run as User.



From awilliam at redhat.com  Sat Oct 31 19:31:26 2009
From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:31:26 -0700
Subject: f12 beta still loses "next", "cancel" buttons off of RHS of
 screen during firstboot
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1257017486.2314.147.camel@adam.local.net>

On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 12:37 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> i installed f12 beta x86_64 on my gateway mx7120 with the
> aforementioned ati radeon xpress 200m video, and while the
> installation seemed to go just fine, upon reboot when i hop into
> firstboot, i am still losing the right side of the screen, to the
> point where what i assume are the "next" and/or "cancel" buttons are
> not visible.
> 
>   i mentioned this before and someone else from red hat (adam
> williamson?) filed a BZ report on this.  from my perspective, this
> behaviour is a definite blocker if someone can't reasonably run
> firstboot right after an install.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#firstboot-multihead

it was fixed, but just too late to make beta. The fix will be in final.

Could you please let us know whether you experience any of the Xpress
200m bugs I mentioned in my other email?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522129
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521512
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531383

this would be very valuable information, especially regarding #531383.
Thanks!

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net



From john.brown009 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 31 19:41:31 2009
From: john.brown009 at gmail.com (TK009)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:41:31 -0400
Subject: F12 beta i686 live CD hangs after starting udev
In-Reply-To: <5f6f8c5f0910311148w13d17783i3db46b734f4da2e7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1256985672.2786.10.camel@paragon.slim>
	<5f6f8c5f0910310409k3f41e945nf20d1da47adb59e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091031112207.GD14699@blackhare>
	<5f6f8c5f0910311148w13d17783i3db46b734f4da2e7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091031194131.GF14699@blackhare>

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 07:48:17PM +0100, Joshua C. wrote:
> 2009/10/31 TK009 :
> > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:09:31PM +0100, Joshua C. wrote:
> >> 2009/10/31 Jurgen Kramer :
> >>
> >> In my case starting udev takes almost a minute in order to start. In
> >> f11 it needs about 3 secs.
> >>
> >
>  There is no floppy on my laptop and there's nothing about it in the
> bios. What should i disbale???

When I saw 'takes almost a minute' I was reminded of this 

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#System_pauses_during_boot_for_over_a_minute_at_.27Starting_udev.27




From jw-bennett at comcast.net  Sat Oct 31 19:57:53 2009
From: jw-bennett at comcast.net (James W. Bennett)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:57:53 -0500
Subject: Fedora 12
Message-ID: <4AEC96C1.2040003@comcast.net>

I want to commend you developers and tester's of Fedora 12. It is the 
best operating Fedora yet. I think all of you have done an excellent job.

Thank you for all you work.

Jim Bennett



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 31 20:06:32 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:06:32 -0400
Subject: Fedora 12
In-Reply-To: <4AEC96C1.2040003@comcast.net>
References: <4AEC96C1.2040003@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4AEC98C8.4000702@sbcglobal.net>

On 10/31/2009 03:57 PM, James W. Bennett wrote:
> I want to commend you developers and tester's of Fedora 12. It is the 
> best operating Fedora yet. I think all of you have done an excellent job.
>
> Thank you for all you work.
>
> Jim Bennett
>
Hold it  Hold it !!! , a little premature.

They left Konqueror out of Root in KDE !!

I know !!  you Gnome fanboys could care less about that.



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Sat Oct 31 20:51:09 2009
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:51:09 -0400
Subject: root password gone and gdm bolixed
Message-ID: <4AECA33D.5060200@cox.net>

Rawhide update to 20091030 on Oct 31 and gdm just cycles trying timed 
login and su - password not working (sudo passwd root does work and 
changed root's password to what it was and now su - password working).

Anyone know which update was the culprit?  Or is this a Halloweeen joke?

# cat /var/log/yum.log | grep "Oct 31"
Oct 31 13:32:51 Updated: libstdc++-4.4.2-7.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:32:53 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-ure-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:32:53 Updated: 1:cups-libs-1.4.1-12.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:32:55 Updated: pam-1.1.0-6.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:32:55 Updated: nspr-4.8.2-1.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:32:58 Updated: 1:cups-1.4.1-12.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:32:59 Updated: 1:qt-4.5.3-7.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:32:59 Updated: jasper-libs-1.900.1-14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:01 Updated: gtk2-2.18.3-15.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:01 Updated: libchamplain-0.4.2-1.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:01 Updated: libchamplain-gtk-0.4.2-1.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:01 Updated: gnome-panel-libs-2.28.0-12.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:01 Updated: evince-libs-2.28.1-5.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:02 Updated: bluez-libs-4.56-1.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:02 Updated: empathy-libs-2.28.1.1-3.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:02 Updated: gnome-sharp-2.24.0-7.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:06 Updated: libgcj-4.4.2-7.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:07 Updated: gutenprint-5.2.4-7.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:07 Updated: openssh-5.2p1-30.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:08 Updated: libvirt-client-0.7.1-15.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:08 Updated: raptor-1.4.18-5.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:08 Updated: DeviceKit-power-012-2.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:09 Updated: openssh-clients-5.2p1-30.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:09 Updated: system-config-printer-libs-1.1.13-6.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:09 Updated: 1:qt-sqlite-4.5.3-7.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:12 Updated: 1:qt-x11-4.5.3-7.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:13 Updated: jack-audio-connection-kit-0.116.1-7.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:14 Updated: mysql-embedded-5.1.39-4.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:14 Updated: apr-1.3.9-3.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:14 Updated: 14:libpcap-1.0.0-4.20090922gite154e2.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:14 Updated: mysql-libs-5.1.39-4.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:15 Updated: 2:qemu-common-0.11.0-9.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:16 Updated: 2:qemu-system-x86-0.11.0-9.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:16 Updated: gmime-2.4.7-3.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:16 Updated: 1:control-center-filesystem-2.28.1-4.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:18 Updated: metacity-2.28.0-6.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:18 Updated: ndesk-dbus-0.6.1a-8.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:25 Updated: fedora-logos-12.0.3-1.fc12.noarch
Oct 31 13:33:26 Updated: compiz-0.8.2-19.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:26 Updated: mono-addins-0.4-9.20091702svn127062.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:29 Updated: gnome-settings-daemon-2.28.1-5.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:34 Updated: 1:control-center-2.28.1-4.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:34 Updated: ndesk-dbus-glib-0.4.1-8.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:34 Updated: 1:autocorr-en-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.noarch
Oct 31 13:33:36 Updated: 
1:openoffice.org-opensymbol-fonts-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.noarch
Oct 31 13:33:54 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-core-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:54 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-brand-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:56 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-calc-core-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:33:56 Updated: 
1:openoffice.org-impress-core-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:00 Updated: 
1:openoffice.org-presenter-screen-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:01 Updated: 
1:openoffice.org-writer-core-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:01 Updated: 
1:openoffice.org-graphicfilter-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:02 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-math-core-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:03 Updated: f-spot-0.6.1.3-2.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:03 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-draw-core-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:05 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-pdfimport-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:05 Updated: hplip-common-3.9.8-20.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:05 Updated: hplip-libs-3.9.8-20.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:05 Updated: libsane-hpaio-3.9.8-20.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:06 Updated: 1:hpijs-3.9.8-20.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:06 Updated: perl-URI-1.40-1.fc12.noarch
Oct 31 13:34:06 Updated: python-meh-0.6-1.fc12.noarch
Oct 31 13:34:06 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-draw-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:10 Updated: evince-2.28.1-5.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:12 Updated: file-roller-2.28.1-2.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:12 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-calc-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:12 Updated: bluez-cups-4.56-1.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:12 Updated: jasper-1.900.1-14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:12 Updated: openssh-askpass-5.2p1-30.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:13 Updated: openssh-server-5.2p1-30.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:16 Updated: gnome-panel-2.28.0-12.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:16 Updated: system-config-printer-udev-1.1.13-6.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:19 Updated: empathy-2.28.1.1-3.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:19 Updated: constantine-kde-theme-12.1.0-1.fc12.noarch
Oct 31 13:34:19 Updated: 2:qemu-kvm-0.11.0-9.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:19 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-xsltfilter-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:19 Updated: 
1:openoffice.org-langpack-en-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:20 Updated: bluez-4.56-1.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:20 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-impress-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:23 Updated: urw-fonts-2.4-9.fc12.noarch
Oct 31 13:34:25 Updated: compiz-gnome-0.8.2-19.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:25 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-writer-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:25 Updated: 3:ypbind-1.20.4-20.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:26 Updated: gutenprint-cups-5.2.4-7.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:26 Updated: pygpgme-0.1-17.20090824bzr68.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:26 Updated: 1:openoffice.org-math-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:27 Updated: hplip-3.9.8-20.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:27 Updated: libvirt-python-0.7.1-15.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:27 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.15-2.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:28 Updated: system-config-printer-1.1.13-6.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:30 Updated: gnome-power-manager-2.28.1-5.fc12.x86_64
Oct 31 13:34:31 Updated: evince-djvu-2.28.1-5.fc12.x86_64



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Sat Oct 31 20:50:14 2009
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:50:14 +0200
Subject: Gnome problems after Rawhide update
In-Reply-To: <1256931801.2314.87.camel@adam.local.net>
References: <4AEAB55C.90700@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<1256931801.2314.87.camel@adam.local.net>
Message-ID: <4AECA306.6040902@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 11:43 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
>   
>> After latest yum update to rawhide (thursday night) I am now getting 
>> these errors when using gedit
>> GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible 
>> causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you 
>> have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See 
>> http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Server 
>> ping error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/UNKNOWN:1.0)
>>
>> Other gnome applications have the same error but are less forgiving and 
>> crash. What has changed, and how do I work around?  I am a little bit 
>> afraid to reboot if this is going to render the machine unusable. Advice?
>>     
>
> gconfd isn't running for some reason.
>
>   
Okay, rebooting solved the problem. I hate Windows style problem solving.



From joshuacov at googlemail.com  Sat Oct 31 20:56:40 2009
From: joshuacov at googlemail.com (Joshua C.)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:56:40 +0100
Subject: F12 beta i686 live CD hangs after starting udev
In-Reply-To: <20091031194131.GF14699@blackhare>
References: <1256985672.2786.10.camel@paragon.slim>
	<5f6f8c5f0910310409k3f41e945nf20d1da47adb59e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091031112207.GD14699@blackhare>
	<5f6f8c5f0910311148w13d17783i3db46b734f4da2e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091031194131.GF14699@blackhare>
Message-ID: <5f6f8c5f0910311356h5abb852di3f8df008cea68e56@mail.gmail.com>

2009/10/31 TK009 :
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 07:48:17PM +0100, Joshua C. wrote:
>> 2009/10/31 TK009 :
>> > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:09:31PM +0100, Joshua C. wrote:
>> >> 2009/10/31 Jurgen Kramer :
>> >>
>> >> In my case starting udev takes almost a minute in order to start. In
>> >> f11 it needs about 3 secs.
>> >>
>> >
>> ?There is no floppy on my laptop and there's nothing about it in the
>> bios. What should i disbale???
>
> When I saw 'takes almost a minute' I was reminded of this
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#System_pauses_during_boot_for_over_a_minute_at_.27Starting_udev.27
>
>
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I already read this but the problem should be somewehere else. I
haven't experienced this in f6 up to f11. It happens for the first
time in f12. So this should be a regression.



From rivanvx at gmail.com  Sat Oct 31 21:17:14 2009
From: rivanvx at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Vedran_Mileti=C4=87?=)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:17:14 +0100
Subject: Fedora 12
In-Reply-To: <4AEC96C1.2040003@comcast.net>
References: <4AEC96C1.2040003@comcast.net>
Message-ID: 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:57 PM, James W. Bennett
 wrote:
> I want to commend you developers and tester's of Fedora 12. It is the best
> operating Fedora yet. I think all of you have done an excellent job.
>
> Thank you for all you work.
>
> Jim Bennett
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

I would second that if the icons in Places and System and Nodoka theme
were there by default. GNOME has never looked worse.

-- 
Vedran Mileti?