From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Wed Jan 5 11:00:40 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:00:40 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? Message-ID: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Salaam, This is a Request for Comment (RFC). I would/may be involved in other translation projects besides Fedora and I need your help in deciding which applications have more priorites or you think is well needed. These translation projects are adopted by King Abdulaziz City for Science and Technology (KACST) in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. It's better if those suggested apps are in Fedora and other distros by default. Thanks for your cooperation in advance! -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From m.eldesoky at tedata.net Wed Jan 5 11:17:46 2005 From: m.eldesoky at tedata.net (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:17:46 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <200501051317.49755.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I suggest educational applications. On Wednesday 05 January 2005 1:00 pm, Munzir Taha wrote: > Salaam, > > This is a Request for Comment (RFC). I would/may be involved in other > translation projects besides Fedora and I need your help in deciding which > applications have more priorites or you think is well needed. These > translation projects are adopted by King Abdulaziz City for Science and > Technology (KACST) in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. It's better if those suggested > apps are in Fedora and other distros by default. > > Thanks for your cooperation in advance! - -- Mohamed Eldesoky Systems Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer TE Data -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB28zc2FHsOWMJBKMRArWYAJ94XYtElY5EU4il9Hi5KOvDPgcYggCdHul/ 6jB1bqW75rzXdaRQL5RQN9M= =ZFno -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Wed Jan 5 11:51:13 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:51:13 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <200501051317.49755.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501051317.49755.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> Message-ID: <200501051451.13741.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yaum al-Arbi'a 24 Thu al-Qi`dah 1425 2:17 pm, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: > I suggest educational applications. You mean things like gcompris and childsplay? Others? Keep this going... -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From m.eldesoky at tedata.net Wed Jan 5 12:01:01 2005 From: m.eldesoky at tedata.net (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:01:01 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <200501051451.13741.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501051317.49755.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> <200501051451.13741.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <200501051401.04624.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yes, things like that. Schools need cheap applications to provide better learning experience. On Wednesday 05 January 2005 1:51 pm, Munzir Taha wrote: > On Yaum al-Arbi'a 24 Thu al-Qi`dah 1425 2:17 pm, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: > > I suggest educational applications. > > You mean things like gcompris and childsplay? Others? > Keep this going... - -- Mohamed Eldesoky Systems Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer TE Data -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB29b/2FHsOWMJBKMRAqkcAJ98LxRyLJvNjuY3o2MXokSQQ685MgCdG765 0rgtQBELFtrWaoTifPkDfCQ= =hrF5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Wed Jan 5 13:24:42 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:24:42 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <200501051317.49755.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501051317.49755.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> Message-ID: <200501051624.42356.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yaum al-Arbi'a 24 Thu al-Qi`dah 1425 2:17 pm, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: > I suggest educational applications. > > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 1:00 pm, Munzir Taha wrote: Do you think the translation of OpenOffice.org Documentation is a priority? What about very large projects like webmin? We already translated KDE to 99% so all it's related apps is now translated. -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From sabdelg at redhat.com Wed Jan 5 18:52:48 2005 From: sabdelg at redhat.com (Sherif Abdelgwad) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:52:48 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <200501051624.42356.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501051317.49755.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> <200501051624.42356.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <1104951167.5592.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> > What about very large projects like webmin? webmin is not in FC. redhat/system-config-* in FC & Red Hat are pretty much better than the webmin tool. Sherif From m.eldesoky at tedata.net Thu Jan 6 08:52:39 2005 From: m.eldesoky at tedata.net (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 10:52:39 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <1104951167.5592.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501051624.42356.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <1104951167.5592.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200501061052.43946.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 05 January 2005 8:52 pm, Sherif Abdelgwad wrote: > > What about very large projects like webmin? > > webmin is not in FC. redhat/system-config-* in FC & Red Hat > are pretty much better than the webmin tool. > > Sherif We should think of projects that have real need in the Arabic region. Business oriented and education projects are first candidates, I think. > > -- > Fedora-trans-ar mailing list > Fedora-trans-ar at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar - -- Mohamed Eldesoky Systems Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer TE Data -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB3Pxa2FHsOWMJBKMRAjKUAJ432Iuv5qG4PZS0BJSJ/N92YX0q8ACfaG2Y 3c8vBH3azwM8p4hHOxHXxiQ= =7BRc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ms.helwa at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 21:08:58 2005 From: ms.helwa at gmail.com (Maha Helwa) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:08:58 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <6afe9c8205010513086e2f8633@mail.gmail.com> Hi All... seems that we all getting busy these days.. hope everyone is fine.. and everything is ok with you. Sherif .. "Sing a new song, Chiquitita" Munzir.. do u mean these apps should be already exists in FC packages..this is what we've been already doing?! if this the case.. Well, from your talks seems that u did not specify a certain scope you're going to work on.. i guess you should know who might be interested at first place..think about who is your audiance your target at the end.. students programmers administrators babysitters... go and ask them..see their needs.. then search what's the available apps on Fedora..even if it doesn't exist in FC and it doesn't conflict with any private property.. free for everybody. I'll think about it and ask ppl round me... maybe i'll came up with a nice list :) Anyway.. how is our translation.. why did u all stopped!! Where we are now ? well, i'll be busy the next couple of weeks.. after that i'll be with u soon.. isALLAH Maha -- The sun is still in the sky and shining above you On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:00:40 +0300, Munzir Taha wrote: > Salaam, > > This is a Request for Comment (RFC). I would/may be involved in other > translation projects besides Fedora and I need your help in deciding which > applications have more priorites or you think is well needed. These > translation projects are adopted by King Abdulaziz City for Science and > Technology (KACST) in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. It's better if those suggested > apps are in Fedora and other distros by default. > > Thanks for your cooperation in advance! > > -- > Munzir Taha PGP Key available > gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 > > Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer > Mandrake Club Member > Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at > http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs > Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project > CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 > New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA > > -- > Fedora-trans-ar mailing list > Fedora-trans-ar at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar > From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Tue Jan 11 04:04:15 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:04:15 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <6afe9c8205010513086e2f8633@mail.gmail.com> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <6afe9c8205010513086e2f8633@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200501110704.15458.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yaum al-Khamees 25 Thu al-Qi`dah 1425 12:08 am, Maha Helwa wrote: > Hi All... > seems that we all getting busy these days.. hope everyone is fine.. > and everything is ok with you. Alhamdulillah. > Munzir.. do u mean these apps should be already exists in FC > packages..this is what we've been already doing?! if this the case.. What we are now doing is translating tools that are made by RedHat/Fedora teams only for this specific distribution. RedHat/Fedora uses millions of other open source projects on their distribution. These programs translation files are on their relevant sites not here in our cvs. Think about KDE, GNOME, OpenOffice.org, ... For some applications ther are already people working on them. What I am asking for is to help me figure those important project that no one is taking care of so we can help. > Well, from your talks seems that u did not specify a certain scope > you're going to work on.. i guess you should know who might be > interested at first place..think about who is your audiance your > target at the end.. students programmers administrators babysitters... My scope is the normal arabic Joe ;) I mean that Muhammad Ahmed guy who use computers for everyday work. Muhammad Ahmed could be that young boy or girl in the kindergarten until he got old and wants to drag a chair and watch Omer Almukhtar video with kaffeine ;) > I'll think about it and ask ppl round me... maybe i'll came up with a > nice list :) Yes, please. To help I am attaching my current list and hope you or any one familiar with the wiki to put a page there and help fill the gaps. We can then put priorities and begin working. What I want from you, if I may ask, is to concentrate on QA, review and putting guidelines and priorites. I want to save your efforts to things that only you can do. Though our translators are good they can't be like you who are familiar with open source projects. However, they would make your job much easier. We are not in a haste. Take your time but let's do something that would have an impact on next generations. > Anyway.. how is our translation.. why did u all stopped!! They say ladies first let me ask about your file. ? "We didn't do it. Even if we did, these guys said we could, but we didn't. And even if we did, which we didn't, not only did these guys say we could (but we didn't), but these nobks did the same thing, so we should be allowed to do it. Which we didn't." --SCO vs IBM > well, i'll be busy the next couple of weeks.. after that i'll be with > u soon.. isALLAH np. -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mohammad.ghoniem at univ-ubs.fr Tue Jan 11 06:27:29 2005 From: mohammad.ghoniem at univ-ubs.fr (Mohammad Ghoniem) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:27:29 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <41E371D1.6050407@univ-ubs.fr> Sal?ms, Thank you for this lovely initiative. Would a piece of software like audacity http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ be a good candidate. It is an open-source free sound editor. Regards, Mohammad Munzir Taha wrote: >Salaam, > >This is a Request for Comment (RFC). I would/may be involved in other >translation projects besides Fedora and I need your help in deciding which >applications have more priorites or you think is well needed. These >translation projects are adopted by King Abdulaziz City for Science and >Technology (KACST) in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. It's better if those suggested >apps are in Fedora and other distros by default. > >Thanks for your cooperation in advance! > > > > From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Tue Jan 11 19:40:06 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:40:06 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <41E371D1.6050407@univ-ubs.fr> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <41E371D1.6050407@univ-ubs.fr> Message-ID: <200501112240.06998.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yau al-Thulatha 30 Thu al-Qi`dah 1425 9:27 am, Mohammad Ghoniem wrote: > Sal?ms, > > Thank you for this lovely initiative. > > Would a piece of software like audacity http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ > be a good candidate. It is an open-source free sound editor. No, it's not a good candidate. It's an excellent candidate ;) Surely, I will need your help when we come to translate those Nyquist-like things. Keep the suggestions coming... -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From sabdelg at redhat.com Tue Jan 11 17:07:48 2005 From: sabdelg at redhat.com (Sherif Abdelgwad) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:07:48 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <200501110704.15458.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <6afe9c8205010513086e2f8633@mail.gmail.com> <200501110704.15458.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <1105463268.4223.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> > To help I am attaching my current list and hope you or any one > familiar with the wiki to put a page there and help fill the gaps. We can > then put priorities and begin working. What I want from you, if I may ask, is > to concentrate on QA, review and putting guidelines and priorites. I want to > save your efforts to things that only you can do. Though our translators are > good they can't be like you who are familiar with open source projects. > However, they would make your job much easier. We are not in a haste. Take > your time but let's do something that would have an impact on next > generations. > It is now in the Wiki http://www.arabic-fedora.org/index.php?option=com_wikidoc&task=view&docid=5&Itemid=37 From amaoui at altern.org Tue Jan 11 17:59:00 2005 From: amaoui at altern.org (Hicham Amaoui) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:59:00 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <41E413E4.7030307@altern.org> Hi all, Perhaps we should finish the kde translation first ? strings freeze for kde 3.4 is scheduled for february 22nd (1), and arabic on HEAD (2), on wich kde3.4 will be based, is only at 43 % ATM. Regards, Hicham (1) http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.4-release-plan.html (2) http://i18n.kde.org/stats/gui/HEAD/toplist.php Munzir Taha wrote: >Salaam, > >This is a Request for Comment (RFC). I would/may be involved in other >translation projects besides Fedora and I need your help in deciding which >applications have more priorites or you think is well needed. These >translation projects are adopted by King Abdulaziz City for Science and >Technology (KACST) in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. It's better if those suggested >apps are in Fedora and other distros by default. > >Thanks for your cooperation in advance! > > > > From m.eldesoky at tedata.net Wed Jan 12 08:17:08 2005 From: m.eldesoky at tedata.net (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:17:08 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <41E413E4.7030307@altern.org> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <41E413E4.7030307@altern.org> Message-ID: <200501121017.14866.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Another team is already taking care of that. Munzir is the coordinator there, I think. We need to start with the untouched projects. On Tuesday 11 January 2005 7:59 pm, Hicham Amaoui wrote: > Hi all, > Perhaps we should finish the kde translation first ? strings freeze for > kde 3.4 is scheduled > for february 22nd (1), and arabic on HEAD (2), on wich kde3.4 will be > based, is only at 43 % ATM. > > Regards, > Hicham > > (1) http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.4-release-plan.html > (2) http://i18n.kde.org/stats/gui/HEAD/toplist.php > > Munzir Taha wrote: > >Salaam, > > > >This is a Request for Comment (RFC). I would/may be involved in other > >translation projects besides Fedora and I need your help in deciding which > >applications have more priorites or you think is well needed. These > >translation projects are adopted by King Abdulaziz City for Science and > >Technology (KACST) in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. It's better if those suggested > >apps are in Fedora and other distros by default. > > > >Thanks for your cooperation in advance! > > -- > Fedora-trans-ar mailing list > Fedora-trans-ar at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar - -- Mohamed Eldesoky Systems Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer TE Data -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB5N0H2FHsOWMJBKMRAqXLAKDUIluNWw7PGZXlAs0mL0IWLsi0UQCfdewu LGjyMvEuk3Z6NThlq1SQ+IQ= =hdvq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Wed Jan 12 21:02:01 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:02:01 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <41E413E4.7030307@altern.org> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <41E413E4.7030307@altern.org> Message-ID: <200501130002.01635.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yau al-Thulatha 30 Thu al-Qi`dah 1425 8:59 pm, Hicham Amaoui wrote: > Hi all, > Perhaps we should finish the kde translation first ? strings freeze for > kde 3.4 is scheduled > for february 22nd (1), and arabic on HEAD (2), on wich kde3.4 will be > based, is only at 43 % ATM. Yes, Hicham, as Desokey said, from now it's better to start with untouched projects so that we can go with no restrictions and can meet deadlines better. For KDE specifically, I wished I could continue it, however, the 99% translation we have done is not sync'ed to HEAD yet so the percentage should be better when this is done. -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From sabdelg at redhat.com Fri Jan 14 16:53:03 2005 From: sabdelg at redhat.com (Sherif Abdelgawad) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:53:03 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Ping Everyone - Status? Message-ID: <003701c4fa59$878c03b0$613210ac@thinkpad> Good Morning everyone :) I would like to wish everyone of you a very happy new year. A littel bit late but it is never too late. I have been lacking contribution lately due to some personal issues, but I am back :) I would like to inqure about our status on review, I know Munizr has assigened a file or different files to different ppl including myself. So I would like to do: - Munzir, can you publish this file again? Send it to the list and I will put it to the site? - Everyone of active member here .. Start reviewing the files, and send to the list with how long you will take to finish. I think this should be fair .. Again I would like to ping everyone who is not yet active in this mailing-list .. We have quite number of people but I only see emails from specific people. So .. For everyone who is registered to this mailing list and did not contribute anything, even by saying "good work" or "bad work" .. would you kindly introduce yourself and share at least your openion? I am flying to Egypt for two weeks tomorrow .. Desoky , would you like to do something with Linux-Egypt LUG while I am in Egypt (We can take this off-list) :) Thanks Sherif -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Fri Jan 14 22:17:38 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:17:38 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Ping Everyone - Status? In-Reply-To: <003701c4fa59$878c03b0$613210ac@thinkpad> References: <003701c4fa59$878c03b0$613210ac@thinkpad> Message-ID: <200501150117.38282.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yaum al-Jumma 03 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 7:53 pm, Sherif Abdelgawad wrote: > Good Morning everyone :) > > I would like to wish everyone of you a very happy new year. > A littel bit late but it is never too late. > > I have been lacking contribution lately due to some personal issues, but I > am back :) I would like to inqure about our status on review, I know Munizr > has assigened a file or different files to different ppl including myself. > So I would like to do: > > - Munzir, can you publish this file again? Send it to the list and I will > put it to the site? - Everyone of active member here .. Start reviewing the > files, and send to the list with how long you will take to finish. Desokey -> authconfig Munzir -> system-config-securitylevel Hicham -> system-config-packages Maha -> help-screens-C Sherif -> apacheconf Turki -> libuser karouri -> clarify the situation of bicon and file a clear bug. > I think this should be fair .. Again I would like to ping everyone who is > not yet active in this mailing-list .. We have quite number of people but I > only see emails from specific people. Sherif, would you please remove the -n from `lsof -i -n`? I mean any reason why the names are not public? I can't think of a reason that someone who is subscribed prefer to remain anonymous. It will help if we can know who are there so we encourage them (or annoy them ;) ) -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From sabdelg at redhat.com Sat Jan 15 00:56:22 2005 From: sabdelg at redhat.com (Sherif Abdelgawad) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:56:22 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Ping Everyone - Status? References: <003701c4fa59$878c03b0$613210ac@thinkpad> <200501150117.38282.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <004501c4fa9d$082ccde0$343210ac@deskstop> > Sherif, would you please remove the -n from `lsof -i -n`? I mean any > reason > why the names are not public? I can't think of a reason that someone who > is > subscribed prefer to remain anonymous. It will help if we can know who are > there so we encourage them (or annoy them ;) ) OK I allowed the subscribed member to be able to see view the members_list. Sherif From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Sat Jan 15 07:25:37 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:25:37 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Ping Everyone - Status? In-Reply-To: <004501c4fa9d$082ccde0$343210ac@deskstop> References: <003701c4fa59$878c03b0$613210ac@thinkpad> <200501150117.38282.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <004501c4fa9d$082ccde0$343210ac@deskstop> Message-ID: <200501151025.37135.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yaum al-Sabt 04 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 3:56 am, Sherif Abdelgawad wrote: > > Sherif, would you please remove the -n from `lsof -i -n`? I mean any > > reason > > why the names are not public? I can't think of a reason that someone who > > is > > subscribed prefer to remain anonymous. It will help if we can know who > > are there so we encourage them (or annoy them ;) ) > > OK I allowed the subscribed member to be able to see view the members_list. Thanks! -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Sat Jan 15 07:26:29 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:26:29 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <1105463268.4223.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501110704.15458.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <1105463268.4223.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200501151026.29643.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yau al-Thulatha 30 Thu al-Qi`dah 1425 8:07 pm, Sherif Abdelgwad wrote: > > To help I am attaching my current list and hope you or any one > > familiar with the wiki to put a page there and help fill the gaps. We can > > then put priorities and begin working. What I want from you, if I may > > ask, is to concentrate on QA, review and putting guidelines and > > priorites. I want to save your efforts to things that only you can do. > > Though our translators are good they can't be like you who are familiar > > with open source projects. However, they would make your job much easier. > > We are not in a haste. Take your time but let's do something that would > > have an impact on next generations. > > It is now in the Wiki > > http://www.arabic-fedora.org/index.php?option=com_wikidoc&task=view&docid=5 >&Itemid=37 Thanks! From now on any one with suggestions and corrections can do it there! -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From sabdelg at redhat.com Sat Jan 15 13:51:05 2005 From: sabdelg at redhat.com (Sherif Abdelgawad) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:51:05 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Kamoos El Rawshana Message-ID: <001f01c4fb09$423d5650$343210ac@deskstop> Found this funny dictionary .. P.S. not to be used in any translation ;) http://alsook.net/a/misc/rawshaka/ Sherif -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From turkim at gmail.com Sat Jan 15 16:42:34 2005 From: turkim at gmail.com (Turki Al-Ibrahim) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:42:34 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Ping Everyone - Status? In-Reply-To: <003701c4fa59$878c03b0$613210ac@thinkpad> References: <003701c4fa59$878c03b0$613210ac@thinkpad> Message-ID: Reply from Turki .. Reply from Turki .. Reply from Turki .. Reply from Turki .. Reply from Turki .. Ctrl - C I am happy with the amount of e-mails I'm receiving from this mailing list ! I will send the file I'm suppose to translate between 24-26 Jan. (Ensha'Allah) On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:53:03 -0500, Sherif Abdelgawad wrote: > > Good Morning everyone :) > > I would like to wish everyone of you a very happy new year. A > littel bit > late but it is never too late. > > I have been lacking contribution lately due to some personal issues, but I > am back :) > I would like to inqure about our status on review, I know Munizr has > assigened a file > or different files to different ppl including myself. So I would like to do: > > - Munzir, can you publish this file again? Send it to the list and I will > put it to the site? > - Everyone of active member here .. Start reviewing the files, and send to > the list > with how long you will take to finish. > > I think this should be fair .. Again I would like to ping everyone who is > not yet active > in this mailing-list .. We have quite number of people but I only see emails > from specific > people. > > So .. For everyone who is registered to this mailing list and did not > contribute anything, > even by saying "good work" or "bad work" .. would you kindly introduce > yourself and > share at least your openion? > > I am flying to Egypt for two weeks tomorrow .. Desoky , would you like to do > something > with Linux-Egypt LUG while I am in Egypt (We can take this off-list) :) > > Thanks > > Sherif > -- > Fedora-trans-ar mailing list > Fedora-trans-ar at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turki M. Al-Ibrahim turkim (at) gmail.com From Mohammad.Ghoniem at univ-ubs.fr Mon Jan 17 15:27:24 2005 From: Mohammad.Ghoniem at univ-ubs.fr (Mohammad Ghoniem) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:27:24 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <200501112240.06998.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <41E371D1.6050407@univ-ubs.fr> <200501112240.06998.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <41EBD95C.1060202@univ-ubs.fr> Munzir Taha wrote: >>Keep the suggestions coming... >> Sal?ms, Besides audacity, I would suggest in the same broad topic : videolan http://www.videolan.org/ It provides an excellent media player and a streaming application. I guess Muhammad Ahmed would need that as well. ;-) sal?m Mohammad From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Tue Jan 18 14:18:14 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:18:14 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] what do you want to translate today? In-Reply-To: <41EBD95C.1060202@univ-ubs.fr> References: <200501051400.40986.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501112240.06998.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <41EBD95C.1060202@univ-ubs.fr> Message-ID: <200501181718.14553.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yaum al-Ithnain 06 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 6:27 pm, Mohammad Ghoniem wrote: > Munzir Taha wrote: > >>Keep the suggestions coming... > > Sal?ms, > > Besides audacity, I would suggest in the same broad topic : > videolan http://www.videolan.org/ Video lan is a good candidate, too, especially the player part of it. Can you point out where are those .po files? -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Thu Jan 20 17:14:02 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:14:02 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Ping Everyone - Status? In-Reply-To: References: <003701c4fa59$878c03b0$613210ac@thinkpad> Message-ID: <200501202014.02329.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yaum al-Sabt 04 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 7:42 pm, Turki Al-Ibrahim wrote: > Reply from Turki .. > > Ctrl - C > > I am happy with the amount of e-mails I'm receiving from this mailing list > ! > I will send the file I'm suppose to translate between 24-26 Jan. > (Ensha'Allah) Yes, I love specific dates! Since I installed FC3 in an arabic interface now, it happen that I notice some errors but wouldn't like to fix them to avoid conflicts so please hurry up, fix and commit. What about others? Any one faces a problem in his PC or the network connection? The Doctor is nearby so let's call him... Bits. Bytes. Chips. Clocks. Bits in bytes on chips in box. Bytes with bits and chips with clocks. Chips in box on ether-docks. Here's a new trick on the scene. Bits in bytes for your machine. Bytes in words to fill your screen. Here's an easy game to play. Here's an easy thing to say: If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port, And the bus is interrupted as a very last resort, And the address of the memory makes your floppy disk abort, Then the socket packet pocket has an error to report! If your cursor finds a menu followed by a dash, And the double-clicking icon puts your window in the trash, And your data is corrupted 'cause the index doesn't hash, then your situation's hopeless, and your system's gonna crash! If the label on the cable on the table at your house, Says the network is connected to the button on your mouse, But your packets want to tunnel on another protocol, That's repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall, And your screen is all distorted by the side effects of gauss, So your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse, Then you may as well reboot and take them all out with a bang, 'Cause as sure as bytes have nibbles, your computer's gonna hang! When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy on the disk, And the microcode instructions cause unnecessary risc, Then you have to flash your memory and you'll want to RAM your ROM. Quickly turn off the computer and be sure to tell your mom! Eid Mubarak and back to work... -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From m.eldesoky at tedata.net Mon Jan 24 07:06:40 2005 From: m.eldesoky at tedata.net (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:06:40 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Ping Everyone - Status? In-Reply-To: <200501202014.02329.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <003701c4fa59$878c03b0$613210ac@thinkpad> <200501202014.02329.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <200501240906.43538.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 wowwwwwwwwwwwwww On Thursday 20 January 2005 7:14 pm, Munzir Taha wrote: > On Yaum al-Sabt 04 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 7:42 pm, Turki Al-Ibrahim wrote: > > Reply from Turki .. > > > > Ctrl - C > > > > I am happy with the amount of e-mails I'm receiving from this mailing > > list ! > > > > I will send the file I'm suppose to translate between 24-26 Jan. > > (Ensha'Allah) > > Yes, I love specific dates! Since I installed FC3 in an arabic interface > now, it happen that I notice some errors but wouldn't like to fix them to > avoid conflicts so please hurry up, fix and commit. What about others? Any > one faces a problem in his PC or the network connection? The Doctor is > nearby so let's call him... > > > Bits. Bytes. Chips. Clocks. > Bits in bytes on chips in box. > Bytes with bits and chips with clocks. > Chips in box on ether-docks. > > Here's a new trick on the scene. > Bits in bytes for your machine. > Bytes in words to fill your screen. > > Here's an easy game to play. > Here's an easy thing to say: > > If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port, > And the bus is interrupted as a very last resort, > And the address of the memory makes your floppy disk abort, > Then the socket packet pocket has an error to report! > > If your cursor finds a menu followed by a dash, > And the double-clicking icon puts your window in the trash, > And your data is corrupted 'cause the index doesn't hash, > then your situation's hopeless, and your system's gonna crash! > > If the label on the cable on the table at your house, > Says the network is connected to the button on your mouse, > But your packets want to tunnel on another protocol, > That's repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall, > > And your screen is all distorted by the side effects of gauss, > So your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse, > Then you may as well reboot and take them all out with a bang, > 'Cause as sure as bytes have nibbles, your computer's gonna hang! > > When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy on the disk, > And the microcode instructions cause unnecessary risc, > Then you have to flash your memory and you'll want to RAM your ROM. > Quickly turn off the computer and be sure to tell your mom! > > > Eid Mubarak and back to work... - -- Mohamed Eldesoky Systems Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer TE Data -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB9J6C2FHsOWMJBKMRAvJPAJ9lZ3GJFugs4jkSbqYRVVabWMAK0wCePW3v 6/8+oQcFYuCRvsf6QFu2hNw= =I1RO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Mon Jan 24 21:51:29 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:51:29 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Qt Arabic Bugs! Message-ID: <200501250051.29594.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Hi! I would like to inform you that these days I am testing the new Qt4 b1 for bugs related to Arabic. I compiled it and now sending messages to their mailing list. From now on, I will cc the list here for those who are interested. It would be good if some one would take the responsibility of contacting GTK+ mailing, too. Let's see which toolkit would be RTL bug free first. -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Mon Jan 24 22:06:30 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:06:30 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Re: Qt4 beta1 Arabic Bugs In-Reply-To: <200501242056.17531.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501242056.17531.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <200501250106.30428.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yaum al-Ithnain 13 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 8:56 pm, Munzir Taha wrote: > Hi! > QSpinBox and QSlider appear nicely laid out side by side inside the QHBox > which automatically assigns reasonable positions and sizes to its children > based on their needs but when I use the -reverse option I notice two > problems: > > 1. QSpinBox didn't work at all. Now, I discovered the examples and the same happen with /usr/local/qt/examples/widgets/spinboxes/spinboxes -reverse I can't increase or decrease any value. > 2. the left edge of the slider in -reverse mode doesn't have any spacing at > all so it looks cut whereas in normal mode it looks as if rendered with > setSpacing(1) or something similar. > > Please, make sure to test the other widgets (TreeView, ...) since I am not > sure whether I will find time to learn how to render the other widget > before the release ;) > > Keep up the high level of this marvellous peace of software. 3. /usr/local/qt/examples/widgets/transformations/transformations -reverse All the items on the QComboBox (Rotate, Scale, Translate) disappears!! 4. In QLineEdit I expect the true implementation to have directionality to be checked and reveresed (RTL) automatically when an RTL language like Arabic is detected. This is what I understand the Unicode standard advocates and what GTK+ and Windows implements, am I wrong? 5. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81858 This should be a Qt bug. I discussed this before with Mr. Lars Knoll but not sure how can I test it now with Qt examples. lars? 6. /usr/local/qt/examples/dialogs/standarddialogs/standarddialogs -reverse The "Basic colors" and "Custom colors" palette doesn't respond to -reverse option when I tested with QColorDialog::getColor() 7. The back arrow <- in QFileDialog::getExistingDirectory() and ::getOpenFileName(s)() and ::getSaveFileName() should be mirrored too. -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From sarahs at redhat.com Sun Jan 23 22:23:10 2005 From: sarahs at redhat.com (Sarah Wang) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:23:10 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] [Fwd: arabic support fedora] Message-ID: <1106518990.2642.0.camel@sarah.brisbane.redhat.com> -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: illio crawford Subject: arabic support fedora Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:07:25 -0500 (EST) Size: 1588 URL: From ms.helwa at gmail.com Wed Jan 26 21:50:04 2005 From: ms.helwa at gmail.com (Maha Helwa) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:50:04 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] [Fwd: arabic support fedora] In-Reply-To: <1106518990.2642.0.camel@sarah.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <1106518990.2642.0.camel@sarah.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <6afe9c8205012613504c969e6d@mail.gmail.com> Good Point... When shall we finish this.. law ta3rf el set hagm el 3afareet elli gowa.. It's good feeling that ppl appreciate what you do.. Well, my status is that i didn't get started yet with my file.. have some headaches in my life.. i'll try to be back soon..in sha` ALLAH.. but i'll need 1 week to finish it. when i'll be able to start.. i don't know till now :) " illio crawford" Who's this guy? As you all said before..Keep it Up.. On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:23:10 +1000, Sarah Wang wrote: > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: illio crawford > To: sarahs at redhat.com > Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:07:25 -0500 (EST) > Subject: arabic support fedora > hello ! i was just wanted to find oiut when the arabic support will be > finished. i noticed only a few things werent done well thanks and i > apriciate your reply > > > -- > Fedora-trans-ar mailing list > Fedora-trans-ar at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar > > From sabdelg at redhat.com Wed Jan 26 22:20:22 2005 From: sabdelg at redhat.com (Sherif Abdelgawad) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:20:22 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Re: arabic support fedora References: Message-ID: <005d01c503f5$3df9d060$323210ac@thinkpad> Hi .. Thanks for your feedback. Translation is almost done and we are in the QA and fixing grammar/spelling mistakes or proper translation sometimes in the translation. Also there are quite some effort with different groups/projects to report and/or fix bugs related to RTL for better support of Arabic. Again on behave of the Arabic Fedora team I would like to thank you for your feedback and would like to ask you to bring anything to our attention if you see any improvement and/or suggestions for better translation. Thanks Sherif > hello ! i was just wanted to find oiut when the arabic support will be > finished. i noticed only a few things werent done well thanks and i > apriciate your reply > > From sabdelg at redhat.com Wed Jan 26 22:21:29 2005 From: sabdelg at redhat.com (Sherif Abdelgawad) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:21:29 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Fw: Fedora Core 4 Message-ID: <006a01c503f5$6918a1e0$323210ac@thinkpad> >A Fedora Core 4 proto-schedule is available at: > > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ > > Generally, it's 3 4-week test releases, with a release in early/mid May. > > So, what's planned for Fedora Core 4? Here's what we're looking > at from the Red Hat side of things: > > - GCC 4, if it's ready > > We're not planning on holding for it, but if it's out in a > reasonable time, sure. Failing that, we're looking at making > more of the FORTIFY_SOURCE and other gcc & glibc security extensions > integrated, if at all possible. > > - The usual new stuff - GNOME 2.10, KDE 3.4, Xorg 6.8.2, > OpenOffice 2.0 (maybe), etc. > > - Xen and Virtualization > > This starts by integrating the Xen kernel stuff, and going > from there. > > - SELinux Episode III: Revenge of the AVC > > Yet more targets in the targeted policy. > > - Faster boot > > Eliminating redundancy and old cruft in the bootup process, > starting GDM early if possible, using newer and faster > udev codebases, and other related tweaks. > > - Java > > More native-compiled GCJ stuff. Including Eclipse. > > - Package management > > GUI integration of system-config-packages, yum, and friends. > > - more networking changes > > Further integration of NetworkManager > > - PPC support > > For your brand spanking new MiniMac, or the p655 under your > desk. > > - Extras at launch time. Or else. > > Hopefully, self explanatory. Could coincide with the move > of some bits from Core to Extras. In fact, some of the > stuff on this list of features may *be* in Extras. > > Probably other stuff that I'm forgetting in here. I'm sure > more people can remind me. > > Bill > From m.eldesoky at tedata.net Thu Jan 27 07:33:14 2005 From: m.eldesoky at tedata.net (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:33:14 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] [Fwd: arabic support fedora] In-Reply-To: <1106518990.2642.0.camel@sarah.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <1106518990.2642.0.camel@sarah.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200501270933.20309.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We would appreciate it if you point out the non-complete areas. On Monday 24 January 2005 12:23 am, Sarah Wang wrote: arabic support fedora From: illio crawford To: sarahs at redhat.com Date: 05/01/23 5:07 pm hello ! i was just wanted to find oiut when the arabic support will be finished. i noticed only a few things werent done well thanks and i apriciate your reply - -- Mohamed Eldesoky Systems Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer TE Data -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB+Jk+2FHsOWMJBKMRAvRIAJ9Slw8TT4ikMshfmAVgXP/Id8bhAQCdFTpg v+jL8CVI6ZecQeTDhnverog= =dag4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Thu Jan 27 15:43:57 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:43:57 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Re: Qt4 beta1 Arabic Bugs In-Reply-To: <200501250106.30428.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501242056.17531.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501250106.30428.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <200501271843.57464.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yau al-Thulatha 14 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 1:06 am, Munzir Taha wrote: > 7. The back arrow <- in QFileDialog::getExistingDirectory() > and ::getOpenFileName(s)() and ::getSaveFileName() should be mirrored too. 8. Accelerators mess the arabic text in QPushButtons. The letter underlined will shift its postion. #include #include int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { QApplication app(argc, argv); QApplication::setFont(QFont("", 72, QFont::Bold)); // This is without accelerator and it displays properly QPushButton pb1(QObject::trUtf8("???")); // This one has an accelerator on the first letter // and the letters display in reverse order QPushButton pb2(QObject::trUtf8("&???")); app.setMainWidget(&pb1); pb1.show(); pb2.show(); return app.exec(); } I wonder is it that I am missing something or is it no body have developed Arabic software with Qt! -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From ms.helwa at gmail.com Thu Jan 27 15:47:52 2005 From: ms.helwa at gmail.com (Maha Helwa) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:47:52 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Fw: Fedora Core 4 In-Reply-To: <006a01c503f5$6918a1e0$323210ac@thinkpad> References: <006a01c503f5$6918a1e0$323210ac@thinkpad> Message-ID: <6afe9c82050127074732eb998a@mail.gmail.com> Are we going to test the arabic support on FC4 not 3 ? On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:21:29 -0500, Sherif Abdelgawad wrote: > > > >A Fedora Core 4 proto-schedule is available at: > > > > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ > > > > Generally, it's 3 4-week test releases, with a release in early/mid May. > > > > So, what's planned for Fedora Core 4? Here's what we're looking > > at from the Red Hat side of things: > > > > - GCC 4, if it's ready > > > > We're not planning on holding for it, but if it's out in a > > reasonable time, sure. Failing that, we're looking at making > > more of the FORTIFY_SOURCE and other gcc & glibc security extensions > > integrated, if at all possible. > > > > - The usual new stuff - GNOME 2.10, KDE 3.4, Xorg 6.8.2, > > OpenOffice 2.0 (maybe), etc. > > > > - Xen and Virtualization > > > > This starts by integrating the Xen kernel stuff, and going > > from there. > > > > - SELinux Episode III: Revenge of the AVC > > > > Yet more targets in the targeted policy. > > > > - Faster boot > > > > Eliminating redundancy and old cruft in the bootup process, > > starting GDM early if possible, using newer and faster > > udev codebases, and other related tweaks. > > > > - Java > > > > More native-compiled GCJ stuff. Including Eclipse. > > > > - Package management > > > > GUI integration of system-config-packages, yum, and friends. > > > > - more networking changes > > > > Further integration of NetworkManager > > > > - PPC support > > > > For your brand spanking new MiniMac, or the p655 under your > > desk. > > > > - Extras at launch time. Or else. > > > > Hopefully, self explanatory. Could coincide with the move > > of some bits from Core to Extras. In fact, some of the > > stuff on this list of features may *be* in Extras. > > > > Probably other stuff that I'm forgetting in here. I'm sure > > more people can remind me. > > > > Bill > > > > -- > Fedora-trans-ar mailing list > Fedora-trans-ar at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar > From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Sat Jan 29 00:00:37 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:00:37 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Re: Arabizing ar.po file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200501290300.37972.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yaum al-Jumma 17 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 2:51 pm, Turki Al-Ibrahim wrote: > Al-Salam Alaykom Munzir, Eid mubarak .. > > The ar.po file I have received from you earlier is 100% translated (0 > Untranslated , 0 Fuzzy). > I have reviewed the file, didn't fine any errors or untranslated > terms. I assume that no work is needed in this file, right ? ?????? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? You are right the file has no lots of mistakes but I can figure out some of those creatures like: msgid "unlocking would make the password field empty" msgstr "????? ??????? ??? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ??????" #: It should be ????? not ????? msgid "Copying user structure:\n" msgstr "???? ??? ???? ???? ????????:\n" #: It should be ???? ??? ???? ???????? Please correct them and commit. I suggest you take any file you want instead but always remember we need you to find 20 mistakes, correct them and post them here (don't count these two ;)). It's your chance to be the first since most of the people here seems very busy nowadays ;) -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Sat Jan 29 00:08:14 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:08:14 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Re: Qt4 beta1 Arabic Bugs In-Reply-To: References: <200501242056.17531.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501271843.57464.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <200501290308.14824.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yaum al-Jumma 17 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 12:40 am, Dimitri wrote: > Hi, > > > I wonder is it that I am missing something or is it no body have > > developed Arabic software with Qt! > > Yes, I assume not much Arabic software has been written with Qt 4 :-) > Seriously, some of these issues may be specific to Qt 4. Thanks at least now I know those are real bugs and not just silly postings out of ignorance ;) 8. Accelerator and QMenu CODE: From the Qt examples I tested like this: /examples/mainwindows/application/mainwindow.cpp: editMenu = menuBar()->addMenu(trUtf8("?&????"((; The order of Arabic letters is messed 9. Arabic letters disappear when diacritics are used! I manage to reproduce this in QLabel, QTextEdit and QLineEdit ?? The above line is the first letter of the Arabic alphabet and a diacritic over it (FATHATAN). When I type or paste this, it disappears! 10. Shortcuts don't work when an Arabic letter is used: CODE: pb.setShortcut(QObject::trUtf8("Ctrl+?", "Quit")); 11. setReverseLayout() is not a member of QApplication! QApplication::setReverseLayout(); gives error: `setReverseLayout' is not a member of `QApplication' Is this related to styles not being implemented yet or what? 12. 5. Arabic letters disappear when diacritics are used! I managed to reproduce this with CODE: QTextEdit *text = new QTextEdit(QObject::trUtf8("?")); PROBLEM: you want see any letters displayed! ?? The above line is the first letter of the Arabic alphabet and a diacritic over it (FATHATAN). When I type or paste this, it disappears! Keep up the good work and thanks blanchette, ... for the nice book! -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From m.eldesoky at tedata.net Sun Jan 30 07:41:41 2005 From: m.eldesoky at tedata.net (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:41:41 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Re: Qt4 beta1 Arabic Bugs In-Reply-To: <200501290308.14824.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501242056.17531.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501290308.14824.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <200501300941.43639.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Munzir, can you upload your builds of Qt4 to the site, so that more people can try it, and report bugs ??? On Saturday 29 January 2005 2:08 am, Munzir Taha wrote: > On Yaum al-Jumma 17 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 12:40 am, Dimitri wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > I wonder is it that I am missing something or is it no body have > > > developed Arabic software with Qt! > > > > Yes, I assume not much Arabic software has been written with Qt 4 :-) > > Seriously, some of these issues may be specific to Qt 4. > > Thanks at least now I know those are real bugs and not just silly postings > out of ignorance ;) > > 8. Accelerator and QMenu > CODE: From the Qt examples I tested like this: > /examples/mainwindows/application/mainwindow.cpp: > editMenu = menuBar()->addMenu(trUtf8("???&????????????"((; > > The order of Arabic letters is messed > > 9. Arabic letters disappear when diacritics are used! > I manage to reproduce this in QLabel, QTextEdit and QLineEdit > ???? > The above line is the first letter of the Arabic alphabet and a diacritic > over it (FATHATAN). When I type or paste this, it disappears! > > 10. Shortcuts don't work when an Arabic letter is used: > > CODE: > pb.setShortcut(QObject::trUtf8("Ctrl+??", "Quit")); > > 11. setReverseLayout() is not a member of QApplication! > QApplication::setReverseLayout(); > gives > error: `setReverseLayout' is not a member of `QApplication' > Is this related to styles not being implemented yet or what? > > 12. > 5. Arabic letters disappear when diacritics are used! > > I managed to reproduce this with > > CODE: > QTextEdit *text = new QTextEdit(QObject::trUtf8("??")); > > PROBLEM: you want see any letters displayed! > ???? > The above line is the first letter of the Arabic alphabet and a diacritic > over it (FATHATAN). When I type or paste this, it disappears! > > > > Keep up the good work and thanks blanchette, ... for the nice book! - -- Mohamed Eldesoky Systems Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer TE Data -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB/I+32FHsOWMJBKMRAhvXAKCf4FsBb2LEfmH+6VHLpv0fOe7PbgCeK2E/ Us/3Jdb9vise6NdDykpAunQ= =YvCr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Sun Jan 30 10:48:48 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:48:48 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Re: Qt4 beta1 Arabic Bugs In-Reply-To: <200501300941.43639.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> References: <200501242056.17531.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501290308.14824.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501300941.43639.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> Message-ID: <200501301348.48597.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yaum al-Ahad 19 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 10:41 am, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: > Munzir, can you upload your builds of Qt4 to the site, so that more people > can try it, and report bugs ??? Sorry I didn't understand what you mean by my builds. I just downloaded the source from trolltech.com website and compiled it. -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From m.eldesoky at tedata.net Sun Jan 30 10:52:50 2005 From: m.eldesoky at tedata.net (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:52:50 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Re: Qt4 beta1 Arabic Bugs In-Reply-To: <200501301348.48597.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501242056.17531.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501300941.43639.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> <200501301348.48597.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <200501301252.52257.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 30 January 2005 12:48 pm, Munzir Taha wrote: > On Yaum al-Ahad 19 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 10:41 am, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: > > Munzir, can you upload your builds of Qt4 to the site, so that more > > people can try it, and report bugs ??? > > Sorry I didn't understand what you mean by my builds. I just downloaded the > source from trolltech.com website and compiled it. You didn't build RPMs ?? If you have made RPMs, upload it please. - -- Mohamed Eldesoky Systems Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer TE Data -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB/LyD2FHsOWMJBKMRAoTDAKCAxtfluFAUv1ahMmCa500xq60qOwCfW62Z BOvYql9gttDS9gvdyUnzC3M= =gTWc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Sun Jan 30 15:49:13 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:49:13 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Re: Qt4 beta1 Arabic Bugs In-Reply-To: <200501301252.52257.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> References: <200501242056.17531.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501301348.48597.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> <200501301252.52257.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> Message-ID: <200501301849.13203.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> On Yaum al-Ahad 19 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 1:52 pm, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: > On Sunday 30 January 2005 12:48 pm, Munzir Taha wrote: > > On Yaum al-Ahad 19 Thu al-Hijjah 1425 10:41 am, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: > > > Munzir, can you upload your builds of Qt4 to the site, so that more > > > people can try it, and report bugs ??? > > > > Sorry I didn't understand what you mean by my builds. I just downloaded > > the source from trolltech.com website and compiled it. > > You didn't build RPMs ?? > If you have made RPMs, upload it please. No no I didn't. Qt has almost a new snapshot every day and it doesn't worth the effort. If any one is interested the compilation process is just a matter of /configure; make; make install and setting some envs. I will be glad to help. If you want me to test any feature please don't hesitate to ask! -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA From munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa Mon Jan 31 21:30:32 2005 From: munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa (Munzir Taha) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 00:30:32 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-trans-ar] Arabic issue #1: QSpinBox doen't work properly with Arabic locale In-Reply-To: <200501300217.51419.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> References: <200501300217.51419.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Message-ID: <200502010030.32148.munzirtaha@newhorizons.com.sa> Hi Sirs! Due to a message from Matthias Ettrich, I am retesting the Arabic and RTL bugs from the beginning against the latest snapshot. Qt Version: qt-x11-opensource-4.0.0-b2-snapshot-20050131 System: Mandrake 10.1 on AMD64 QSpinBox was not working when reversed but now it's working but with many issues. CODE: LC_ALL=ar qt/examples/widgets/spinboxes/spinboxes shows the year like this 1059 and could only be increased to 1109 though the code is: dateEdit->setDateRange(QDate(2005, 1, 1), QDate(2010, 12, 31)); dateLabel->setText(tr("Appointment date (between %0 and %1):") .arg(dateEdit->minimumDate().toString(Qt::ISODate)) .arg(dateEdit->maximumDate().toString(Qt::ISODate))); I guess the issue has something to do with my ar locale and Hijri Calendar. I can see functions like Also, $ LC_TIME=ar /usr/local/qt/examples/widgets/spinboxes/spinboxes shows another problem. PROBLEM: When I click many times in the strange Arabic letters/glyphs that appeared on the first QDate spin box that says "Appointment date (between 2005, 1, 1 and 2010, 12, 31:", the program crashes with the error: ASSERT: "glyph_pos != -1" in file text/qtextlayout.cpp, line 1719 Aborted LC_ALL=ar_SA.UTF-8 shows broken glyphs of Sunday (in Arabic) though it's Tuesday today as my $ date command shows! even LC_ALL=C shows the year as either 05 or 10! so I can't use 06, 07, 08 and 09 as per the code setDateRange() function. What about Hijri date functions: isn't it implemented here? Can you copy it from KDE code? WoW the bugs are getting nasty now ;) -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Mandrake Club Member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA