Documentation & Translation schedule review

[John Poelstra]

I'll try to see what I can do with this, but it doesn't address my 
original request below.

We really need to meet in real time on this.  I'll start another thread 
on that.

John

On 12/11/2009 02:55 PM, John J. McDonough wrote:
> John
>
> Looking at it with my Release Notes blinders on, I think we need to
> first focus on the major tasks, AND THEIR RELATIONSHIPS.  I'm sort of
> ignoring docs.fp.o at this point because that happens almost
> automatically as a result of having the RPM.
>
> Starting from the end ...
>
> We need to have the RPM built BEFORE the RC Compose. Somehow we managed
> to miss this little detail for F12. There are always hiccups so I think
> we should leave 3 days for this.  We *might* end up with another RPM for
> the "Bug Complete" compose, but since we will have addressed the issues
> already, we can probably get by with a day for that.
>
> Backing up from the RC RPM, it looks as if we don't gain a lot by trying
> to get all the translation done for beta like we did for F12.  The time
> for GA is about the same as the time for Beta.  So let's assume we have
> 10 days for translation (which must be finished before we make the RPM),
> and another 10 days for post-beta edits, that brings us back about to
> the Beta compose, so basically, it is the maximum amount of time we
> have.
>
> So the basics are:
>    - We need to have the RPM **before** RelEng's compose
>    - We need the translation before the RPM
>    - We need the text before we can translate it
>
> The only difference between Beta and GA is that for Beta we probably
> should take an extra few days for unclaimed beats.
>
> Alpha is kind of a minor event since we don't translate it, and in the
> past we haven't made an RPM (although I think we should).
>
> Take a look at
> http://jjmcd.fedorapeople.org/F13-RelNotes-MajorTasks.html
>
> there are lots of other things we need to do for Release Notes, but
> these are the things that essentially set the schedule.  Unfortunately,
> the html export doesn't show the dependencies, which are the main thing.
> But all of the other tasks are mostly noise.  It is this business of
> write, translate, make the RPM that sets the schedule, and we need to
> give Jesse the RPM before he composes, so RelEng's composes are major
> milestones as far as we are concerned.
>
> Also, there is an assumption here that the new Transifex is in place.
> We have also had discussions about sending POTs much more frequently.
> The way we have been handling it L10N gets the MINIMUM amount of time to
> do the translations.  Often we have plenty of changes backed up before
> we can reveal them to L10N.  This doesn't seem like the best plan.  We
> have an accounting problem trying to keep all the partial and un-done
> translations straight, and L10N is as rushed as possible.
>
> --McD
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 12:22 -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
>> In anticipation of the meeting suggested by Sparks on logistics list,
>> I've created a text version of the schedule that should work well for
>> customizing or using in gobby.
>>
>> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13-draft/f-13-docs-trans-schedule-review.txt
>>
>> This version is a combination of:
>> 1) key milestones for the release as a whole (to provide context)
>> 2) Documentation tasks
>> 3) Translation tasks
>>
>> The most helpful feedback you can give me (at the meeting or elsewhere)
>> is to provide corrections, additions, or deletions based on the version
>> I've created.  It does not help me if you create your own version from
>> scratch and refer to it because then I have to start all over which is a
>> big investment of time.  A patch or diff against the original file works
>> too.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>
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