[fedora-virt] release notes virt passage seems overly pessimistic

[Dale Bewley]

----- "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday at crashcourse.ca> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Dale Bewley wrote:
> > ----- "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday at crashcourse.ca> wrote:
> > > reading here:
> > >
> > >
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f12/en-US/html/sect-Release_Notes-Virtualization.html
> > >
> > > down at the bottom:
> > >
> > > "KVM requires hardware virtualization features in the host
> system.
> > >
> > > Systems lacking hardware virtualization do not support Xen guests
> > > at this time."
> > >
> > >   if one is new to virt, that could be read as, "without HW virt,
> > > you're pretty much screwed."  or could that be worded a bit
> > > differently?
> >
> > This is the same text carried over from 10 and 11.
> >
> >
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_Do_System_Adminstrators_Care_About.html#sn-Virtualization
> >
> > While Xen does not require hardware support, KVM still (always
> > will?) does. Xen guests on Fedora still require KVM-based xenner.
> > There has been success with Xen dom0 on experimental 3rd party
> > kernels, but that may be beyond the scope of the release notes. We
> > wouldn't want it to be inferred as a recommendation.
> >
> > Hopefully the F13 release notes will be able to describe native
> > support for Xen dom0 hosts.
> >
> >
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue202#No_Xen_dom0_in_Fedora_12_Hopefully_13
> >
> > If you have any suggestions for further improvement to the release
> > notes, please keep them coming.
> 
>   for people new to virtualization, i was simply suggesting that that
> wording still leaves some doubt as to what's possible.
> 
>   what about a slightly longer explanation which describes what you
> can support based on the capabilities of your system, as in:
> 
>   1) if your system supports H/W virtualization, you can do the
> following:
> 
>      ... list of things ...
> 
>   2) if your system does *not* support H/W virtualization, you are
> limited to the following:
> 
>      ... much shorter list ...
> 
>   that should be written for the newbie since the most frustrating
> experience for beginners is to invest considerable time trying to do
> something, only to eventually learn that it wasn't possible all
> along.
> 
>   i'm thinking a page entitled something like "So, you have a
> computer
> and you want to get into virtualization."  does such a page exist?
> 
> rday

Under
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Virtualization

We do have
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_virtualization

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