Tweaking the design of the wiki

Patrick W. Barnes nman64 at n-man.com
Mon Dec 4 18:35:16 UTC 2006


On Monday 04 December 2006 10:04, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
>
> since most of the CSS changes were positively commented, wouldn't it be a
> good idea to include the custom CSS in the upgrade before announcing it?
>
> It would also be great if the team could publish on the list it's progress
> so that the whole websites-list could participate or give constructive
> comments. The more open the process, the better, right? :)
>

They aren't revising the site in any way.  They're only working on the backend 
software that powers it.  Once they've finished the upgrade, we can start 
working on any style patches.  Their work is very straightford and doesn't 
require any input beyond bug reports.

> >> We might need some more changes, like putting a <div> around the table
> >> of contents to manipulate it through CSS.
> >
> > That would require patching the MoinMoin core.  Changes like that should
> > be submitted upstream and given a chance to filter down, because we
> > really don't want to commit to that sort of maintenance.
>
> Keeping things posted upstream is great and very important. But, we are a
> big project and have many and special requirements; some of them are so
> special (eg. have a banner on the right-hand menu for the Mentors program)
> that might require coding that doesn't fit to the upstream.

A banner on the side is something that would be implemented in the Python code 
for the theme we're using, whereas changing the way ToC elements are produced 
would require changes in the MoinMoin core.  We're open to theme changes, but 
we don't want to implement core changes that haven't been implemented 
upstream.

>
> Anyway, this is a very special discussion that doesn't have a
> black-or-white answer, but only a rule-of-thumb: The more the upstream, the
> better. :)

Indeed.

>
> BTW, the TOC-stylesheet thing appears to be implemented in 1.5/1.6, no?
>
> http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinPatch/AlterTableOfContentsAppearance
>WithStyleSheet
>

That's my understanding.

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