From kwade at redhat.com Thu Mar 1 20:24:23 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:24:23 -0800 Subject: WIki and kindofblue In-Reply-To: References: <45DD0D13.9080706@redhat.com> <369bce3b0702221147m75b6127fpd32a0bc3ff60b13a@mail.gmail.com> <45DE0DBF.8020302@redhat.com> <369bce3b0702221440y14b74781q7ce8d19015c8f05a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172780663.4651.488.camel@erato.phig.org> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 07:55 -0600, Michael Greifenkamp wrote: > Add > > margin-bottom: 1.3em; > > to #page ul li { > > in "screen.css" > > (we could probably add line-height: 1.3em; as well, just in case.....) > > and that should fix the bullet alignment problem. Is that the fix to what I report here? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230511 I tried to use those fixes (using Web Developer extension for Firefox to edit the CSS on the live page.) I didn't have any luck, but that doesn't mean anything. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 21:04:40 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:04:40 -0800 Subject: WIki and kindofblue In-Reply-To: <1172780663.4651.488.camel@erato.phig.org> References: <45DD0D13.9080706@redhat.com> <369bce3b0702221147m75b6127fpd32a0bc3ff60b13a@mail.gmail.com> <45DE0DBF.8020302@redhat.com> <369bce3b0702221440y14b74781q7ce8d19015c8f05a@mail.gmail.com> <1172780663.4651.488.camel@erato.phig.org> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703011304w6213c857t3e6f1ab4df069709@mail.gmail.com> On 3/1/07, Karsten Wade wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 07:55 -0600, Michael Greifenkamp wrote: > > Add > > > > margin-bottom: 1.3em; > > > > to #page ul li { > > > > in "screen.css" > > > > (we could probably add line-height: 1.3em; as well, just in case.....) > > > > and that should fix the bullet alignment problem. > > Is that the fix to what I report here? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230511 > > I tried to use those fixes (using Web Developer extension for Firefox to > edit the CSS on the live page.) I didn't have any luck, but that > doesn't mean anything. > > - Karsten I think the issue I'm having is different than yours. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/NumberedTest Notice if I use numbered items only, it converts properly but if I mix with any bullet you get all bullets and ignore rest of numbered items. -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From grfnkmp at uiuc.edu Thu Mar 1 21:07:14 2007 From: grfnkmp at uiuc.edu (Michael Greifenkamp) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:07:14 -0600 Subject: WIki and kindofblue In-Reply-To: <1172780663.4651.488.camel@erato.phig.org> References: <45DD0D13.9080706@redhat.com> <369bce3b0702221147m75b6127fpd32a0bc3ff60b13a@mail.gmail.com> <45DE0DBF.8020302@redhat.com> <369bce3b0702221440y14b74781q7ce8d19015c8f05a@mail.gmail.com> <1172780663.4651.488.camel@erato.phig.org> Message-ID: I need to go back and look at the entire css file again, but I'm guessing that the current problem (that I could still see on your example pages) is very closely related. The problem is that list items that are non-linked don't have a margin set for them because the margin is set in the paragraph tag. For whatever reason, list items that aren't links are just
  • item but list items that have links are

  • item

    • . The enclosing paragraph tags of the items that have links make the formatting for those list items different. My suggestion, without overstepping my bounds of course, is to fix whatever it is that OMITS the

    tags on the list items that aren't links, so that they appear as

  • item

    • . Otherwise, it should be able to be fixed by making the attributes for ordered and unordered list items match the attributes for the paragraph tag, so that when the paragraph tag is omitted it still formats it the same way (which seems sloppy to me, but I'm new here. :) Mike >Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; > boundary="=-ijQRB2fdPCDUEzaqwoi3" > >On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 07:55 -0600, Michael Greifenkamp wrote: >> Add >> >> margin-bottom: 1.3em; >> >> to #page ul li { >> >> in "screen.css" >> >> (we could probably add line-height: 1.3em; as well, just in case.....) >> >> and that should fix the bullet alignment problem. > >Is that the fix to what I report here? > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230511 > >I tried to use those fixes (using Web Developer extension for Firefox to >edit the CSS on the live page.) I didn't have any luck, but that >doesn't mean anything. > >- Karsten >-- >Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project > Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject > quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 >////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ > >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc >Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part > >Attachment converted: Graceland:signature 11.asc ( / ) (0071C1C1) >-- >Fedora-websites-list mailing list >Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list From siddharth at techbugs.org Sat Mar 3 07:47:25 2007 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:17:25 +0530 Subject: Bug in Wiki Page "Get Info" Link Message-ID: take a look at http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SiddharthUpmanyu?action=info&hitcounts=1 this happens when clicking the "Get Info" Link on the page.. 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It says ValueError invalid literal for long(): If you want to report a bug, please save this page and attach it to your bug report. Regards Siddharth On 3/3/07, Thomas Chung wrote: > > On 3/2/07, Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > > > > take a look at > > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SiddharthUpmanyu?action=info&hitcounts=1 > > this happens when clicking the "Get Info" Link on the page.. > > > > Should it be filed as a bug report in the bugzilla > > > > Regards > > Siddharth > > Try http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SiddharthUpmanyu?action=info > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I hope someone will see this important to change it as soon as possible. thanks, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 07:12:52 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 23:12:52 -0800 Subject: Attachment option in More Actions Message-ID: <369bce3b0703062312r5499db47x41ab7a36fd6dcf2f@mail.gmail.com> Have we fixed this issue? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/WikiMigration It says "Done" but I still do not see "Attachment" option in "More Actions" in new Wiki. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From kwade at redhat.com Fri Mar 9 22:02:41 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:02:41 -0800 Subject: deprecating content Message-ID: <1173477761.3935.259.camel@erato.phig.org> As we move content from fedora.redhat.com/docs to docs.fedoraproject.org, it would be good to deal with some deprecated content. In particular, we have content that is only appropriate for previous version of Fedora, such as the stateless Linux materials. Even when something is outdated and therefore currently inaccurate, I still feel as if we need to mark it as archived v. delete it entirely. The latter happened recently with the "Stateless Linux Tutorial". I think a better solution is to put up an interstitial page that describes it as deprecated and links to it, then we can let that stay in time. Any thoughts on approaches here? What should stay forever? Is there anything that should be deleted from the Internet forever? - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I had intended on doing it but other issues came up and my template skills are a joke. -Mike From stickster at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 19:36:56 2007 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:36:56 -0500 Subject: deprecating content In-Reply-To: <1173477761.3935.259.camel@erato.phig.org> References: <1173477761.3935.259.camel@erato.phig.org> Message-ID: <1173555416.11733.70.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 14:02 -0800, Karsten Wade wrote: > As we move content from fedora.redhat.com/docs to > docs.fedoraproject.org, it would be good to deal with some deprecated > content. In particular, we have content that is only appropriate for > previous version of Fedora, such as the stateless Linux materials. > > Even when something is outdated and therefore currently inaccurate, I > still feel as if we need to mark it as archived v. delete it entirely. > The latter happened recently with the "Stateless Linux Tutorial". I > think a better solution is to put up an interstitial page that describes > it as deprecated and links to it, then we can let that stay in time. > > Any thoughts on approaches here? What should stay forever? Is there > anything that should be deleted from the Internet forever? In thinking about this, we shouldn't forget that our own CVS allows even "dead" documents to be resurrected by curious users. Yes, it requires some skill and knowledge, but this particular barrier is one with which we shouldn't be too concerned. I'm thinking of the analogous situation of the DocBook Definitive Guide, where it's quite difficult to track down versions from the authoritative web site for a particular revision of DocBook (say, V4.4), since other versions have taken precedence. The original book source is easily available in CVS and with a little know-how and elbow grease, one can build the book at a particular snapshot in time. But the authors and publisher have made the decision to wipe out the "published" snapshot to encourage users to adopt the newer (and presumably improved) versions. This is much the same attitude we encourage with Fedora -- it's why we don't support back past a couple releases. If you need longer term stability, you should be using one of our commercial-quality downstream distros like RHEL or CentOS. I fear that continually providing documentation for unsupported versions sends a subtle message that either (1) we are supporting use of outdated releases, or (2) we are maintaining outdated docs. A doc should live and breathe with the rest of the distro. If it can't keep up, if it doesn't have authors and editors who want to maintain and update it, we should whisk it away and put in a "permanently moved" that sends users to an explanation of this stuff, and possibly directions on how to get the stuff from CVS. We would purposely be setting a slightly higher barrier (albeit giving readers the tools to overcome it) to ensure that many would simply say, "Aw, the heck with it, I might as well get the newer stuff where I can read/google/write up-to-date docs." I'm curious as to how many visits we actually *get* for outdated docs, which would be a good litmus test for whether we really need to maintain them. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If not mind if I put it in the fedora cvs? -Mike From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 12 02:04:26 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:04:26 -0400 Subject: web/html/docs/developers-guide s1-ui-gnome-guidelines.php,1.1,1.2 Message-ID: <200703120204.l2C24QQc024082@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/developers-guide In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv24063 Modified Files: s1-ui-gnome-guidelines.php Log Message: patch from lmacken; this guide needs some lovin' Index: s1-ui-gnome-guidelines.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/developers-guide/s1-ui-gnome-guidelines.php,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2 --- s1-ui-gnome-guidelines.php 6 Dec 2005 19:37:03 -0000 1.1 +++ s1-ui-gnome-guidelines.php 12 Mar 2007 02:04:24 -0000 1.2 @@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ ?>
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    - Read the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines. These + Read the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines. These are pretty good guidelines developed by some interaction design professionals, and are the best guidelines to come from the open source community so far. Until we have official Fedora Project guidelines, From dimitris at glezos.com Mon Mar 12 04:26:58 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:26:58 +0000 Subject: Wiki tweaks 2 Message-ID: <45F4D692.50704@glezos.com> Hi all. I spent some hours today debugging and coding some new stuff for the wiki. We've put the kindOfBlue theme on CVS so we can work more easily. Mike, can you please make the commits live? * I've put some more elements on '/wiki/WikiElements' * Substituted most of the smilies from the Echo icons * Enabled breadcrumbs on all pages I'll start coding in CSS some commonly-used HTML hacks I see around on the wiki. Hopefully at some point we will get rid of long, regular HTML hacks and substitute them with something like this: || [Artwork] || I'll send more tomorrow when the changes will be visible. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Mar 12 13:09:04 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:09:04 -0500 Subject: Wiki tweaks 2 In-Reply-To: <45F4D692.50704@glezos.com> References: <45F4D692.50704@glezos.com> Message-ID: <45F550F0.9080706@redhat.com> Dimitris Glezos wrote: > Hi all. > > I spent some hours today debugging and coding some new stuff for the wiki. We've > put the kindOfBlue theme on CVS so we can work more easily. Mike, can you please > make the commits live? > done. -Mike From dimitris at glezos.com Mon Mar 12 19:03:46 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:03:46 +0000 Subject: Wiki tweaks 2 In-Reply-To: <45F4D692.50704@glezos.com> References: <45F4D692.50704@glezos.com> Message-ID: <45F5A412.7020402@glezos.com> O/H Dimitris Glezos ??????: > I spent some hours today debugging and coding some new stuff for the wiki. We've > put the kindOfBlue theme on CVS so we can work more easily. Mike, can you please > make the commits live? > > * I've put some more elements on '/wiki/WikiElements' > * Substituted most of the smilies from the Echo icons > * Enabled breadcrumbs on all pages > > I'll start coding in CSS some commonly-used HTML hacks I see around on the wiki. > Hopefully at some point we will get rid of long, regular HTML hacks and > substitute them with something like this: > > || [Artwork] || > > I'll send more tomorrow when the changes will be visible. You can see some of the stuff I'm testing (and their wiki code) over at my sandbox [1] and our new smilies and small icons at [2]. [1]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DimitrisGlezos/Sandbox [2]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HelpOnSmileys Thanks to Mike who's been patient enough to make my commits live. Do you guys have any suggestion of stuff often coded we could reuse? At the above page I did: * Floats (right, left) * Message boxes * Common table colors (+cells) Some more that could be done: * Per-project headers ([3]) * Navigation boxes ([3]) [3]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject Any other? -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From tchung at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 12 19:09:45 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:09:45 -0700 Subject: Wiki tweaks 2 In-Reply-To: <45F5A412.7020402@glezos.com> References: <45F4D692.50704@glezos.com> <45F5A412.7020402@glezos.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703121209r4a2a3367hd233017fcea38951@mail.gmail.com> On 3/12/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > You can see some of the stuff I'm testing (and their wiki code) over at my > sandbox [1] and our new smilies and small icons at [2]. > > [1]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DimitrisGlezos/Sandbox > [2]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HelpOnSmileys > > Thanks to Mike who's been patient enough to make my commits live. > > Do you guys have any suggestion of stuff often coded we could reuse? At the > above page I did: > > * Floats (right, left) > * Message boxes > * Common table colors (+cells) > > Some more that could be done: > > * Per-project headers ([3]) > * Navigation boxes ([3]) > > [3]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject > > Any other? Thanks Dimitris, I see some improvement in bullets already. Yes, I still see an issue with mixing bullets and numbered items. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/NumberedTest Any numbered items with a bullets becomes all bullets. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From dimitris at glezos.com Tue Mar 13 03:52:53 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:52:53 +0000 Subject: Wiki tweaks 2 In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703121209r4a2a3367hd233017fcea38951@mail.gmail.com> References: <45F4D692.50704@glezos.com> <45F5A412.7020402@glezos.com> <369bce3b0703121209r4a2a3367hd233017fcea38951@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F62015.3060401@glezos.com> O/H Thomas Chung ??????: > Thanks Dimitris, > I see some improvement in bullets already. > > Yes, I still see an issue with mixing bullets and numbered items. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/NumberedTest > Any numbered items with a bullets becomes all bullets. Fixed. It took me some hours but it's finally OK (nasty little inheritance bug). Last round of commits: * Fixed broken lists * Added Page Navigation on top of *all* pages ("Page > Subpage > Subsub") * Created some more reusable message boxes [1]. Please spend some time to browse through the wiki and report if something strange or a UFO shows up. If you guys find any page that still has on top of it hard-coded page navigation text, please edit it and simply remove the text. You can also find a bunch of them with the following search: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=%5D+%3E+%5B&fullsearch=Text -d [1]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DimitrisGlezos/Sandbox -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 13 04:03:37 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:03:37 -0700 Subject: Wiki tweaks 2 In-Reply-To: <45F62015.3060401@glezos.com> References: <45F4D692.50704@glezos.com> <45F5A412.7020402@glezos.com> <369bce3b0703121209r4a2a3367hd233017fcea38951@mail.gmail.com> <45F62015.3060401@glezos.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703122103k328f7d34j35448eabde270f09@mail.gmail.com> On 3/12/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > O/H Thomas Chung ??????: > > Yes, I still see an issue with mixing bullets and numbered items. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/NumberedTest > > Any numbered items with a bullets becomes all bullets. > > Fixed. It took me some hours but it's finally OK (nasty little inheritance bug). I'm sorry but I don't see it as fixed. It still converts mixed bullets and numbers to *only* bullets. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/NumberedTest http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC5DVD/October More examples at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC5DVD Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 13 05:03:11 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:03:11 -0700 Subject: Wiki Error - ValueError Message-ID: <369bce3b0703122203n293b40e9h2da778dd6e2697d1@mail.gmail.com> I'm seeing following error message in "RecentChanges" Is this due to recent wiki updates? ValueError invalid literal for long(): not needed any more If you want to report a bug, please save this page and attach it to your bug report. * Show debugging information * Report bug * Visit MoinMoin wiki Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From paulo.banon at googlemail.com Tue Mar 13 07:03:02 2007 From: paulo.banon at googlemail.com (Paulo Santos) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:03:02 +0000 Subject: Wiki tweaks 2 In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703122103k328f7d34j35448eabde270f09@mail.gmail.com> References: <45F4D692.50704@glezos.com> <45F5A412.7020402@glezos.com> <369bce3b0703121209r4a2a3367hd233017fcea38951@mail.gmail.com> <45F62015.3060401@glezos.com> <369bce3b0703122103k328f7d34j35448eabde270f09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a41c4bc0703130003v580fc544u4c7142228848620c@mail.gmail.com> Thomas, Probably Mike havent pushed the changes yet. Let?s wait for his reply first. Paulo On 3/13/07, Thomas Chung wrote: > > On 3/12/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > O/H Thomas Chung ??????: > > > Yes, I still see an issue with mixing bullets and numbered items. > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/NumberedTest > > > Any numbered items with a bullets becomes all bullets. > > > > Fixed. 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URL: From gajownik at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 20:09:52 2007 From: gajownik at gmail.com (Dawid Gajownik) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:09:52 +0100 Subject: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ != http://fedoraproject.org/wiki Message-ID: <45F70510.80702@gmail.com> Hi! I noticed today that we have to different websites. For example please compare: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines or http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit Is that intentional? I was a bit confused when I got e-mails form the wiki about modified pages but there was nothing new there (notifications contain URL without 'www.' part). Can't these sites be synchronized somehow like it was before? Regards, Dawid -- ^_* From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Mar 13 20:12:38 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:12:38 -0500 Subject: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ != http://fedoraproject.org/wiki In-Reply-To: <45F70510.80702@gmail.com> References: <45F70510.80702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F705B6.8080804@redhat.com> Dawid Gajownik wrote: > Hi! > > I noticed today that we have to different websites. For example please > compare: > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines > > or > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit > > Is that intentional? I was a bit confused when I got e-mails form the > wiki about modified pages but there was nothing new there > (notifications contain URL without 'www.' part). > > Can't these sites be synchronized somehow like it was before? > > Regards, > Dawid > These sites come up identical to me, are others experiencing this? -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Mar 13 20:13:42 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:13:42 -0500 Subject: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ != http://fedoraproject.org/wiki In-Reply-To: <45F70510.80702@gmail.com> References: <45F70510.80702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F705F6.4000503@redhat.com> Dawid Gajownik wrote: > Hi! > > I noticed today that we have to different websites. For example please > compare: > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines > > or > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit > > Is that intentional? I was a bit confused when I got e-mails form the > wiki about modified pages but there was nothing new there > (notifications contain URL without 'www.' part). > > Can't these sites be synchronized somehow like it was before? > Are you seeing different content or a different style / theme? Its possible you have cached css on one site and not on the other (we did some updates recently) -Mike From duffy at redhat.com Tue Mar 13 20:14:09 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:14:09 -0400 Subject: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ != http://fedoraproject.org/wiki In-Reply-To: <45F705B6.8080804@redhat.com> References: <45F70510.80702@gmail.com> <45F705B6.8080804@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45F70611.6090904@redhat.com> Hi Mike, Mike McGrath wrote: >> > These sites come up identical to me, are others experiencing this? > Well in a similar vein I've recently noticed visiting http://fedoraproject.org/people results in the planet sans CSS & graphics, while adding the trailing / causes the CSS & graphics to load correctly. ~m From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Mar 13 20:22:39 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:22:39 -0500 Subject: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ != http://fedoraproject.org/wiki In-Reply-To: <45F70611.6090904@redhat.com> References: <45F70510.80702@gmail.com> <45F705B6.8080804@redhat.com> <45F70611.6090904@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45F7080F.6070008@redhat.com> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Mike McGrath wrote: >>> >> These sites come up identical to me, are others experiencing this? >> > > Well in a similar vein I've recently noticed visiting > http://fedoraproject.org/people results in the planet sans CSS & > graphics, while adding the trailing / causes the CSS & graphics to > load correctly. > Sorry, that was me being lazy. Its fixed now. -Mike From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 13 20:26:25 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:56:25 +0530 Subject: Wiki and side bar Message-ID: <45F708F1.2030604@fedoraproject.org> Hi There is a patch from Patrick Barnes to not show the sidebar if I am not logged into the Fedora wiki. This will make the website look cleaner. I am not sure if the patch applies anymore but can someone check and see if it is useful? Details at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/WikiMigration Rahul From dimitris at glezos.com Tue Mar 13 21:30:29 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:30:29 +0000 Subject: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ != http://fedoraproject.org/wiki In-Reply-To: <45F705B6.8080804@redhat.com> References: <45F70510.80702@gmail.com> <45F705B6.8080804@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45F717F5.9020102@glezos.com> O/H Mike McGrath ??????: > Dawid Gajownik wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I noticed today that we have to different websites. For example please >> compare: >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines >> >> or >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit >> >> Is that intentional? I was a bit confused when I got e-mails form the >> wiki about modified pages but there was nothing new there >> (notifications contain URL without 'www.' part). >> >> Can't these sites be synchronized somehow like it was before? >> > These sites come up identical to me, are others experiencing this? You may be authenticated in one of them and not in the other. If you use a theme different than the default one, you'll see two very different sites. Authentication not being active on both is a cookie issue AFAICT. We also have a third "wiki instance" at: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ BTW, search engines takes these as three different sites, dropping our ranking because of content duplication. They usually punish subdomains with similar content linking between them. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Mar 13 21:38:08 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:38:08 -0500 Subject: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ != http://fedoraproject.org/wiki In-Reply-To: <45F717F5.9020102@glezos.com> References: <45F70510.80702@gmail.com> <45F705B6.8080804@redhat.com> <45F717F5.9020102@glezos.com> Message-ID: <45F719C0.4090300@redhat.com> Dimitris Glezos wrote: > O/H Mike McGrath ??????: > >> Dawid Gajownik wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I noticed today that we have to different websites. For example please >>> compare: >>> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines >>> >>> or >>> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit >>> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit >>> >>> Is that intentional? I was a bit confused when I got e-mails form the >>> wiki about modified pages but there was nothing new there >>> (notifications contain URL without 'www.' part). >>> >>> Can't these sites be synchronized somehow like it was before? >>> >>> >> These sites come up identical to me, are others experiencing this? >> > > You may be authenticated in one of them and not in the other. If you use a theme > different than the default one, you'll see two very different sites. > Authentication not being active on both is a cookie issue AFAICT. > > We also have a third "wiki instance" at: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ > > BTW, search engines takes these as three different sites, dropping our ranking > because of content duplication. They usually punish subdomains with similar > content linking between them. > admin.fp.o /wiki is going away as soon as one of my tickets goes through with GIT. The rest should be re-directs. I'll add it to my list. -Mike > -d > > From dimitris at glezos.com Wed Mar 14 04:56:16 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:56:16 +0000 Subject: Wiki tweaks 2 In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703122103k328f7d34j35448eabde270f09@mail.gmail.com> References: <45F4D692.50704@glezos.com> <45F5A412.7020402@glezos.com> <369bce3b0703121209r4a2a3367hd233017fcea38951@mail.gmail.com> <45F62015.3060401@glezos.com> <369bce3b0703122103k328f7d34j35448eabde270f09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F78070.2040300@glezos.com> O/H Thomas Chung ??????: > On 3/12/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: >> O/H Thomas Chung ??????: >> > Yes, I still see an issue with mixing bullets and numbered items. >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/NumberedTest >> > Any numbered items with a bullets becomes all bullets. >> >> Fixed. It took me some hours but it's finally OK (nasty little >> inheritance bug). > > I'm sorry but I don't see it as fixed. > It still converts mixed bullets and numbers to *only* bullets. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/NumberedTest > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC5DVD/October > More examples at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC5DVD First, make sure your browser cache is refreshed by doing a Shift-Reload in it. Second, and most important, it is not allowed to mix lists on the same level (even with a blank line in between them). Quoting from [1]: To nest lists of different levels, you use different depths of indenting. All items on the same indent level belong to the same (sub-)list. That also means that you cannot change the style of a list after you started it. Thit means, the following will *not* work: * foo 1. foo 1. foo nor will this: * foo 1. foo 1. foo But the following will work: * foo 1. foo 1. foo More info about this bug/feature at [2]. -d [1]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HelpOnLists [2]:http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/MixedNumberedAndUnorderedLists -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 14 06:34:00 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:34:00 -0700 Subject: Wiki tweaks 2 In-Reply-To: <45F78070.2040300@glezos.com> References: <45F4D692.50704@glezos.com> <45F5A412.7020402@glezos.com> <369bce3b0703121209r4a2a3367hd233017fcea38951@mail.gmail.com> <45F62015.3060401@glezos.com> <369bce3b0703122103k328f7d34j35448eabde270f09@mail.gmail.com> <45F78070.2040300@glezos.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703132334o5870907egdf26ce6e0585f82b@mail.gmail.com> On 3/13/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > Second, and most important, it is not allowed to mix lists on the same level > (even with a blank line in between them). Quoting from [1]: > > To nest lists of different levels, you use different depths of indenting. All > items on the same indent level belong to the same (sub-)list. That also means > that you cannot change the style of a list after you started it. > > Thit means, the following will *not* work: > > * foo > 1. foo > 1. foo > > nor will this: > > * foo > > 1. foo > 1. foo > > But the following will work: > > * foo > 1. foo > 1. foo > > More info about this bug/feature at [2]. > > -d > > > [1]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HelpOnLists > [2]:http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/MixedNumberedAndUnorderedLists Thank you for the explaination. I'll go ahead fix them by indenting. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Mar 15 02:08:58 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:08:58 -0500 Subject: Web GUI Message-ID: <45F8AABA.90700@redhat.com> For good or bad its here. I'm keeping it semi-enabled. What do you guys think? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MikeMcGrath?action=edit&editor=gui Basically append &editor=gui to whatever your editing. -Mike From anandcomputerphreak at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 02:12:28 2007 From: anandcomputerphreak at gmail.com (Anand Capur) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:12:28 -0400 Subject: Web GUI In-Reply-To: <45F8AABA.90700@redhat.com> References: <45F8AABA.90700@redhat.com> Message-ID: On 3/14/07, Mike McGrath wrote: > > For good or bad its here. I'm keeping it semi-enabled. What do you > guys think? > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MikeMcGrath?action=edit&editor=gui > > Basically append &editor=gui to whatever your editing. > > -Mike > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > Very nice! LOVE IT! Good work :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Aur?lien -- http://aurelien.bompard.org ~~~~ Jabber : abompard at jabber.fr "You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother." -- Albert Einstein From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 18:11:35 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:11:35 -0700 Subject: Web GUI In-Reply-To: <45F8AABA.90700@redhat.com> References: <45F8AABA.90700@redhat.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703151111u2b7f6645yac7ef9933eb9480b@mail.gmail.com> On 3/14/07, Mike McGrath wrote: > For good or bad its here. I'm keeping it semi-enabled. What do you > guys think? > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MikeMcGrath?action=edit&editor=gui > > Basically append &editor=gui to whatever your editing. > > -Mike Could we add "Edit (GUI)" option in our navigation? Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From nman64 at n-man.com Thu Mar 15 22:45:07 2007 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:45:07 -0500 Subject: Web GUI In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703151111u2b7f6645yac7ef9933eb9480b@mail.gmail.com> References: <45F8AABA.90700@redhat.com> <369bce3b0703151111u2b7f6645yac7ef9933eb9480b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703151745.11283.nman64@n-man.com> On Thursday 15 March 2007, Thomas Chung wrote: > > Could we add "Edit (GUI)" option in our navigation? I'd rather see it used through this more obscure method and demonstrated to be reliable before we allow everyone to use it. My primary concern is what might happen to more fragile constructs when the GUI is used to modify something that was tediously created in the text editor. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My primary concern is what > might happen to more fragile constructs when the GUI is used to modify > something that was tediously created in the text editor. > This was kind of my thought as well, after you guys have pounded it a bit let me know what you think. Its pretty easy to disable and totally enable. -Mike From gajownik at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 17:08:37 2007 From: gajownik at gmail.com (Dawid Gajownik) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:08:37 +0100 Subject: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ != http://fedoraproject.org/wiki In-Reply-To: <45F705B6.8080804@redhat.com> References: <45F70510.80702@gmail.com> <45F705B6.8080804@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45FC2095.50603@gmail.com> Dnia 03/13/2007 09:12 PM, U?ytkownik Mike McGrath napisa?: > These sites come up identical to me, are others experiencing this? Sorry for the false alarm: I had a static entry in /etc/hosts and fedoraproject.org changed IP address from 152.3.220.166 to 209.132.176.120 BTW do you plan to start using IPv6 ones in the near future? IPv4 address space will be exhausted within next five years ;) Anyway, thanks for your help Dawid -- ^_* From kwade at redhat.com Sun Mar 18 17:54:22 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:54:22 -0700 Subject: Web GUI In-Reply-To: <45F8AABA.90700@redhat.com> References: <45F8AABA.90700@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1174240462.18755.119.camel@erato.phig.org> On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 21:08 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > For good or bad its here. I'm keeping it semi-enabled. What do you > guys think? > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MikeMcGrath?action=edit&editor=gui > > Basically append &editor=gui to whatever your editing. OK, that's great, as long as it makes matching (1:1) markup to what is done by hand. We may need to update some styles we use if we can't get a GUI editor to do things the same. Some markup styles are due to our manual output for XML, so those could change either way. The #!rst is just a code block, right? Not a call to use ReST? - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Some markup styles are due to our > manual output for XML, so those could change either way. > I have noticed some funkiness with using the gui editor. Take a look at the main landing page. > The #!rst is just a code block, right? Not a call to use ReST? > Yeah, you can mix #!rst with normal wiki markup on a page if you want AFAIK. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Sun Mar 18 20:48:32 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:48:32 -0500 Subject: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ != http://fedoraproject.org/wiki In-Reply-To: <45FC2095.50603@gmail.com> References: <45F70510.80702@gmail.com> <45F705B6.8080804@redhat.com> <45FC2095.50603@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FDA5A0.6070105@redhat.com> Dawid Gajownik wrote: > Sorry for the false alarm: I had a static entry in /etc/hosts and > fedoraproject.org changed IP address from 152.3.220.166 to > 209.132.176.120 Ahh, that makes sense. We left the old site up for testing and to fail back to incase anything went wrong. > BTW do you plan to start using IPv6 ones in the near future? IPv4 > address space will be exhausted within next five years ;) Lucky for us, we've already got our IP ;-) Seriously though, we'll probably go IPv6 at some point but we've got plenty of other stuff to do right now. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 20:11:33 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:11:33 -0500 Subject: Research Project - Google Message-ID: <45FEEE75.8020806@redhat.com> It came to my attention recently that by having duplicate content at www.fedoraproject.com and fedoraproject.org that both would receive a lower ranking in google's system. As a result I've got everything redirecting to fedoraproject.org. My Google-fu isn't that great so I'd like to ask if anyone out there would like to do some research to find out how we can increase our hits. Would a robot file help? I honestly have no idea. Anyone interested? -Mike From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 21:03:02 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:03:02 -0400 Subject: web README-fedoraproject.org,NONE,1.1 Message-ID: <200703192103.l2JL327I008159@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv8142 Added Files: README-fedoraproject.org Log Message: Explanation of what is happening with the migration of content and where things are meaningful --- NEW FILE README-fedoraproject.org --- 19-MAR-2007 kwade at fedoraproject.org Effective today, the only content that has direct meaning in this module is that in web/html/docs. That is now the content appearing at docs.fedoraproject.org. The page that appears at the front of docs.fedoraproject.org is web/html/docs/index.php. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 21:17:52 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:17:52 -0400 Subject: web/html/docs index.php,1.25,1.26 Message-ID: <200703192117.l2JLHq4D008965@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv8945 Modified Files: index.php Log Message: interim what's up warning page with first pass at fixed links Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.25 retrieving revision 1.26 diff -u -r1.25 -r1.26 --- index.php 17 Oct 2006 01:58:54 -0000 1.25 +++ index.php 19 Mar 2007 21:17:50 -0000 1.26 @@ -7,10 +7,13 @@ $template->displayHeader(); ?> -

    User Documentation

    +

    Fedora Documentation

    +
    [Tip]Content is on the move, links are breaking and getting fixed.

    + 19-Mar-2007 We are currently moving content from fedora.redhat.com to this domain; in the process many links are going to be broken, then fixed. Some will be missed. We will post a link to a bugzilla report and/or email address to send to about broken links, after we have completed our initial fixes. +

    This section is dedicated to user documentation for . All the - content is from the Documentation Project. Except for guides such as the + content is from the Documentation Project. Except for guides such as the Installation Guide, the documentation is in tutorial format. All docs are task-oriented.

    @@ -19,15 +22,14 @@

    @@ -35,20 +37,20 @@

    From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 21:36:27 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:36:27 -0400 Subject: web/html/images fedoralogo-64x23.png,NONE,1.1 Message-ID: <200703192136.l2JLaRKf010310@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv10294/images Added Files: fedoralogo-64x23.png Log Message: temp image for link back to main Wiki/project site From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 21:39:15 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:39:15 -0400 Subject: web/include navigation.inc,1.21,1.22 template.inc,1.13,1.14 Message-ID: <200703192139.l2JLdFKc010394@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/include In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv10373/include Modified Files: navigation.inc template.inc Log Message: updating includes to match new details Index: navigation.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/include/navigation.inc,v retrieving revision 1.21 retrieving revision 1.22 diff -u -r1.21 -r1.22 --- navigation.inc 12 Oct 2006 14:21:04 -0000 1.21 +++ navigation.inc 19 Mar 2007 21:39:13 -0000 1.22 @@ -5,37 +5,16 @@ A trailing slash for directories is ALSO REQUIRED. */ $nav_list=array( - "Home"=>array("uri"=>"/"), - "Download"=>array("uri"=>"/Download/","sub"=>array( - "Installation"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/Download"), - "Mirrors"=>array("uri"=>"/Download/mirrors.php"), - "Vendors"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/OnlineVendors"), - "Updates"=>array("uri"=>"/Download/updates.php"), - "Download Server"=>array("uri"=>"http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/") - )), - "News"=>array("uri"=>"/News/"), - "Documentation"=>array("uri"=>"/docs/","sub"=>array( + "Documentation"=>array("uri"=>"/","sub"=>array( "Release Notes"=>array("uri"=>"/docs/release-notes/"), "Installation Guide"=>array("uri"=>"/docs/install-guide/"), + "Desktop User Guide"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/DesktopUserGuide"), "Managing Software With Yum"=>array("uri"=>"/docs/yum/"), - "Jargon Buster"=>array("uri"=>"/docs/jargon-buster/"), - "SELinux FAQ"=>array("uri"=>"/docs/selinux-faq/"), - "Developer's Guide"=>array("uri"=>"/docs/developers-guide/"), - "Documentation Guide"=>array("uri"=>"/docs/documentation-guide/") )), - "Contribute"=>array("uri"=>"/Contribute/"), - "About"=>array("uri"=>"/About/","sub"=>array( - "Projects"=>array("uri"=>"/About/Projects/"), - "Contact"=>array("uri"=>"/About/contact.php"), - //"Terminology"=>array("uri"=>"/About/terminology.php"), - "Fedora Core Schedule"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Core/Schedule"), - //"History"=>array("uri"=>"/About/history/"), - //"Leadership"=>array("uri"=>"/About/leadership.php"), - //"Objectives"=>array("uri"=>"/about/objectives.php"), - //"Product Relationship"=>array("uri"=>"/about/rhel.php"), - //"Fedora Name"=>array("uri"=>"/about/name.php"), - "Legal"=>array("uri"=>"/About/legal/"), - "GPG Keys"=>array("uri"=>"/About/security/") - )) + "Download Fedora"=>array("uri"=>"http://download.fedoraproject.org"), + "Join"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join"), + "Contribute to the Documentation Project"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Join"), + "Fedora Schedule"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule"), + "Documentation Schedule"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule") ); ?> Index: template.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/include/template.inc,v retrieving revision 1.13 retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.13 -r1.14 --- template.inc 5 Jan 2007 17:25:05 -0000 1.13 +++ template.inc 19 Mar 2007 21:39:13 -0000 1.14 @@ -69,9 +69,9 @@
    @@ -138,7 +138,7 @@ print 'Red Hat, Inc. is not responsible for the content of other sites.
    '; } - print 'Legal | Trademark Guidelines + print 'Legal | Trademark Guidelines
    '; if (!empty($date)) { print ' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 21:41:16 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:41:16 -0400 Subject: web/include template.inc,1.14,1.15 Message-ID: <200703192141.l2JLfGwZ010528@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/include In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv10511/include Modified Files: template.inc Log Message: updating includes to match new details Index: template.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/include/template.inc,v retrieving revision 1.14 retrieving revision 1.15 diff -u -r1.14 -r1.15 --- template.inc 19 Mar 2007 21:39:13 -0000 1.14 +++ template.inc 19 Mar 2007 21:41:14 -0000 1.15 @@ -64,7 +64,7 @@
    From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 22:47:55 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:47:55 -0500 Subject: fedora.redhat.com is no more Message-ID: <45FF131B.8050201@redhat.com> We now have a redirect for fedora.redhat.com. If you have anything specific you'd like redirected please let me know. Though these redirects will only be temporary. -Mike From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 22:55:02 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:55:02 -0400 Subject: web/html/images Fedora-infinity-36x36.png,NONE,1.1 Message-ID: <200703192255.l2JMt2kn019374@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv19352 Added Files: Fedora-infinity-36x36.png Log Message: adding little logo for linking back to Fedora From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 22:56:21 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:56:21 -0400 Subject: web/html/docs index.php,1.26,1.27 Message-ID: <200703192256.l2JMup0n019564@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv19492/d/docs Modified Files: index.php Log Message: updating to use a real and proper logo Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.26 retrieving revision 1.27 diff -u -r1.26 -r1.27 --- index.php 19 Mar 2007 21:17:50 -0000 1.26 +++ index.php 19 Mar 2007 22:56:19 -0000 1.27 @@ -31,7 +31,10 @@
  • Understanding and Customizing the Apache HTTP SELinux Policy (Fedora Core 3)
  • Managing Software with Yum (en | pt_BR)
    • - +

    Deprecated Content (such as for old releases of Fedora)

    +

    The following participation guides are also available:

    From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 22:56:22 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:56:22 -0400 Subject: web/include template.inc,1.15,1.16 Message-ID: <200703192256.l2JMuqhe019567@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/include In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv19492/include Modified Files: template.inc Log Message: updating to use a real and proper logo Index: template.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/include/template.inc,v retrieving revision 1.15 retrieving revision 1.16 diff -u -r1.15 -r1.16 --- template.inc 19 Mar 2007 21:41:14 -0000 1.15 +++ template.inc 19 Mar 2007 22:56:20 -0000 1.16 @@ -64,7 +64,7 @@
    From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 23:00:33 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:00:33 -0400 Subject: web/html/docs index.php,1.27,1.28 Message-ID: <200703192300.l2JN0XHq019906@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv19887 Modified Files: index.php Log Message: fixing small stuff now, I hope Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.27 retrieving revision 1.28 diff -u -r1.27 -r1.28 --- index.php 19 Mar 2007 22:56:19 -0000 1.27 +++ index.php 19 Mar 2007 23:00:31 -0000 1.28 @@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ ?>

    Fedora Documentation

    -
    [Tip]Content is on the move, links are breaking and getting fixed.

    +

    [Tip]Content is on the move, links are breaking and getting fixed.

    19-Mar-2007 We are currently moving content from fedora.redhat.com to this domain; in the process many links are going to be broken, then fixed. Some will be missed. We will post a link to a bugzilla report and/or email address to send to about broken links, after we have completed our initial fixes.

    From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 23:01:35 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:01:35 -0400 Subject: web/include navigation.inc,1.22,1.23 Message-ID: <200703192301.l2JN1ZjF023950@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/include In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv23929/include Modified Files: navigation.inc Log Message: shorter nav reads better in this style Index: navigation.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/include/navigation.inc,v retrieving revision 1.22 retrieving revision 1.23 diff -u -r1.22 -r1.23 --- navigation.inc 19 Mar 2007 21:39:13 -0000 1.22 +++ navigation.inc 19 Mar 2007 23:01:33 -0000 1.23 @@ -13,8 +13,8 @@ )), "Download Fedora"=>array("uri"=>"http://download.fedoraproject.org"), "Join"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join"), - "Contribute to the Documentation Project"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Join"), + "Join Docs"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Join"), "Fedora Schedule"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule"), - "Documentation Schedule"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule") + "Docs Schedule"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule") ); ?> From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 23:11:31 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:11:31 -0400 Subject: web/html/docs/stylesheet-images - New directory Message-ID: <200703192311.l2JNBVnK024830@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv24814/stylesheet-images Log Message: Directory /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/stylesheet-images added to the repository From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 23:12:23 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:12:23 -0400 Subject: web/html/docs/stylesheet-images caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200703192312.l2JNCNMP024920@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv24897/stylesheet-images Added Files: caution.png important.png note.png tip.png warning.png Log Message: updating at least the source level icons to match what we are using on the wiki From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 23:23:28 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:23:28 -0400 Subject: web/include site.inc,1.3,1.4 Message-ID: <200703192323.l2JNNSb4025864@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/include In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv25844/include Modified Files: site.inc Log Message: updating variables; all is Fedora Index: site.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/include/site.inc,v retrieving revision 1.3 retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.3 -r1.4 --- site.inc 1 Nov 2006 01:43:49 -0000 1.3 +++ site.inc 19 Mar 2007 23:23:26 -0000 1.4 @@ -11,12 +11,12 @@ $SITE_TITLE='Fedora Project, sponsored by Red Hat'; $PROJECT_NAME='Fedora Project'; $THE_PROJECT_NAME='The Fedora Project'; -$RELEASE_NAME='Fedora Core'; -$EXTRAS_NAME='Fedora Extras'; +$RELEASE_NAME='Fedora'; +$EXTRAS_NAME='Fedora'; $BASE_NAME='Fedora'; $TRADEMARK_NAME='Fedora™'; -$ALTERNATIVES_NAME='Fedora Alternatives'; -$LEGACY_NAME='Fedora Legacy'; +$ALTERNATIVES_NAME='Fedora'; +$LEGACY_NAME='Fedora'; $RELEASE_VERSION='6'; $BETA_NAME=''; $CODE_NAME='Zod'; From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 23:29:14 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:29:14 -0400 Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes index.php,1.28,1.29 Message-ID: <200703192329.l2JNTE0d026259@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv26240/html/docs/release-notes Modified Files: index.php Log Message: updating various index.php as we go Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.28 retrieving revision 1.29 diff -u -r1.28 -r1.29 --- index.php 6 Nov 2006 04:59:39 -0000 1.28 +++ index.php 19 Mar 2007 23:29:12 -0000 1.29 @@ -19,16 +19,16 @@ Release notes for FC6:

    - el | - en_US | - es | - it | - pl | - pt | - pt_BR | - ru | - sv | - zh_CN (24-Oct-2006) + el | + en_US | + es | + it | + pl | + pt | + pt_BR | + ru | + sv | + zh_CN (24-Oct-2006)

    @@ -50,7 +50,7 @@ Latest release notes for FC6 test2:

    - en (13-AUG-2006) + en (13-AUG-2006)

    @@ -85,58 +85,58 @@ Fedora Core 6 - el | - en_US | - es | - it | - pl | - pt | - pt_BR | - ru | - ru | - sv | - zh_CN (24-Oct-2006) + el | + en_US | + es | + it | + pl | + pt | + pt_BR | + ru | + ru | + sv | + zh_CN (24-Oct-2006) Fedora Core 5 - en | - it | - pa | - pt_BR | - - zh_CN (20-MAR-2006) + en | + it | + pa | + pt_BR | + + zh_CN (20-MAR-2006) Fedora Core 4 - en | - ru | + en | + ru | - en (26-JUL-2005) + en (26-JUL-2005) Fedora Core 3 - en (x86) | - en (x86_64) + en (x86) | + en (x86_64) Fedora Core 2 - en (x86) | - en (x86_64) + en (x86) | + en (x86_64) Fedora Core 1 - en (x86) | - en (x86_64) + en (x86) | + en (x86_64) From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 23:31:37 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:31:37 -0400 Subject: web/html/docs/fedora-install-guide-en index.php,1.7,1.8 Message-ID: <200703192332.l2JNW7Bk027051@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/fedora-install-guide-en In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv26892/html/docs/fedora-install-guide-en Modified Files: index.php Log Message: updating various index.php as we go Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.7 retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.7 -r1.8 --- index.php 12 Oct 2006 01:19:18 -0000 1.7 +++ index.php 19 Mar 2007 23:31:35 -0000 1.8 @@ -16,19 +16,19 @@ From gdk at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 23:48:24 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: fedora.redhat.com is no more In-Reply-To: <45FF131B.8050201@redhat.com> References: <45FF131B.8050201@redhat.com> Message-ID: Ding dong, the witch is dead! :) --g On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Mike McGrath wrote: > We now have a redirect for fedora.redhat.com. If you have anything specific > you'd like redirected please let me know. Though these redirects will only > be temporary. > > -Mike > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 00:24:08 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:24:08 -0400 Subject: web/html/images Fedora-infinity-36x36.png,1.1,1.2 Message-ID: <200703200024.l2K0O828003245@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv3229/images Modified Files: Fedora-infinity-36x36.png Log Message: fixed image output from Inkspace From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 00:24:43 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:24:43 -0400 Subject: web/include template.inc,1.16,1.17 Message-ID: <200703200024.l2K0OhXA003269@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/include In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv3252/include Modified Files: template.inc Log Message: pointing proper images at proper locations, now; fixed the associated images to look good Index: template.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/include/template.inc,v retrieving revision 1.16 retrieving revision 1.17 diff -u -r1.16 -r1.17 --- template.inc 19 Mar 2007 22:56:20 -0000 1.16 +++ template.inc 20 Mar 2007 00:24:41 -0000 1.17 @@ -64,13 +64,13 @@ From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 00:26:37 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:26:37 -0400 Subject: web/html/docs index.php,1.28,1.29 Message-ID: <200703200026.l2K0QbdX003304@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv3287 Modified Files: index.php Log Message: making sure that all fixes to index pages are in Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.28 retrieving revision 1.29 diff -u -r1.28 -r1.29 --- index.php 19 Mar 2007 23:00:31 -0000 1.28 +++ index.php 20 Mar 2007 00:26:35 -0000 1.29 @@ -13,28 +13,28 @@

    This section is dedicated to user documentation for . All the - content is from the Documentation Project. Except for guides such as the + content is from the Documentation Project. Except for guides such as the Installation Guide, the documentation is in tutorial format. All docs are task-oriented.

    - The following tutorials are currently available and many more are being developed: + The following tutorials are available:

    Deprecated Content (such as for old releases of Fedora)

    +
  • Stateless Linux Tutorial (FC3)
    • +
  • Udev on Fedora (FC3)
    • +
  • Understanding and Customizing the Apache HTTP SELinux Policy (FC3)

    • The following participation guides are also available:

    @@ -59,15 +59,13 @@

    If you are interested in writing docs for as part of the - , refer to the Documentation Project. + , refer to the Documentation Project.

    If you think a specific piece of documentation is needed, enter a - request for enhancement (RFE) in Bugzilla. Look over bug - #129807 first to be sure your request is not already - in progress. If it is not, add your idea to bug #129784 for the Fedora Documentation Project to address. -

    + request for enhancement (RFE) in Bugzilla. +

    References: <45FEEE75.8020806@redhat.com> Message-ID: Well to get the page rank up, it needs to be linked to on lots of sites. To get the actual listing up, its dependent on keywords, etc... On 3/19/07, Mike McGrath wrote: > > It came to my attention recently that by having duplicate content at > www.fedoraproject.com and fedoraproject.org that both would receive a > lower ranking in google's system. As a result I've got everything > redirecting to fedoraproject.org. My Google-fu isn't that great so I'd > like to ask if anyone out there would like to do some research to find > out how we can increase our hits. Would a robot file help? I honestly > have no idea. Anyone interested? > > -Mike > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > -- Anand Capur Arcnetworks - President/CEO/CTO/CSO ArcBB - Project Manager, Lead Coder www.arcnetworks.biz www.arcbb.info -------------------- I'm an Ambassador for the Fedora Project! Fedora Core 6. The New Generation In Linux! Get it now @ http://fedoraproject.org/ -------------------- Firefox - Safer, Faster, Better http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=39064&t=1 -------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 01:29:08 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:29:08 -0400 Subject: web/html/docs index.php,1.29,1.30 Message-ID: <200703200129.l2K1T8w9009194@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv9177 Modified Files: index.php Log Message: minor formatting fix Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.29 retrieving revision 1.30 diff -u -r1.29 -r1.30 --- index.php 20 Mar 2007 00:26:35 -0000 1.29 +++ index.php 20 Mar 2007 01:29:06 -0000 1.30 @@ -34,7 +34,7 @@ +
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    From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 20 05:03:42 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:03:42 -0700 Subject: fedora.redhat.com is no more In-Reply-To: <45FF131B.8050201@redhat.com> References: <45FF131B.8050201@redhat.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703192203r70781abco5389be04a603ce48@mail.gmail.com> On 3/19/07, Mike McGrath wrote: > We now have a redirect for fedora.redhat.com. If you have anything > specific you'd like redirected please let me know. Though these > redirects will only be temporary. > > -Mike > Matt, Do we still want to point Mirrors to http://fedora.redhat.com/Download/mirrors.html ? We still have space holder at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mirrors/ Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 06:55:06 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:55:06 -0400 Subject: web/include template.inc,1.17,1.18 Message-ID: <200703200655.l2K6t6fc008602@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/include In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv8585/include Modified Files: template.inc Log Message: we really don't need two ways to get to the fedora home page, all in the header Index: template.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/include/template.inc,v retrieving revision 1.17 retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -r1.17 -r1.18 --- template.inc 20 Mar 2007 00:24:41 -0000 1.17 +++ template.inc 20 Mar 2007 06:55:04 -0000 1.18 @@ -70,7 +70,6 @@
    From pribyl at lowlevel.cz Tue Mar 20 11:42:15 2007 From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:42:15 +0100 (CET) Subject: Research Project - Google In-Reply-To: <45FEEE75.8020806@redhat.com> References: <45FEEE75.8020806@redhat.com> Message-ID: Just look around for topic "google SEO" (Search engine optimization). It's always good to know something about it.:) On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Mike McGrath wrote: > It came to my attention recently that by having duplicate content at > www.fedoraproject.com and fedoraproject.org that both would receive a lower > ranking in google's system. As a result I've got everything redirecting to > fedoraproject.org. My Google-fu isn't that great so I'd like to ask if > anyone out there would like to do some research to find out how we can > increase our hits. Would a robot file help? I honestly have no idea. > Anyone interested? > > -Mike > Adam Pribyl From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 13:41:57 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:41:57 -0500 Subject: Research Project - Google In-Reply-To: References: <45FEEE75.8020806@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45FFE4A5.8090207@redhat.com> Adam Pribyl wrote: > Just look around for topic "google SEO" (Search engine optimization). > It's always good to know something about it.:) Yes, there are many things I could do. The reason I sent this email is because I was wondering if someone ELSE was interested in doing it, I'm busy :) A sitemap.xml would be good to have. It'd be a great way to get involved with either the websites team or infrastructure team or both. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 13:42:38 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:42:38 -0500 Subject: fedora.redhat.com is no more In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703192203r70781abco5389be04a603ce48@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FF131B.8050201@redhat.com> <369bce3b0703192203r70781abco5389be04a603ce48@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FFE4CE.5030709@redhat.com> Thomas Chung wrote: > On 3/19/07, Mike McGrath wrote: >> We now have a redirect for fedora.redhat.com. If you have anything >> specific you'd like redirected please let me know. Though these >> redirects will only be temporary. >> >> -Mike >> > > Matt, > Do we still want to point Mirrors to > http://fedora.redhat.com/Download/mirrors.html ? > We still have space holder at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mirrors/ > Regards, My main concern with having a wiki mirrors site is people who think we want their DSL connection shared as a mirror and possible malicious use. -Mike From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 20 15:10:44 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:40:44 +0530 Subject: fedora.redhat.com is no more In-Reply-To: <45FFE4CE.5030709@redhat.com> References: <45FF131B.8050201@redhat.com> <369bce3b0703192203r70781abco5389be04a603ce48@mail.gmail.com> <45FFE4CE.5030709@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45FFF974.7010501@fedoraproject.org> Mike McGrath wrote: > Thomas Chung wrote: >> On 3/19/07, Mike McGrath wrote: >>> We now have a redirect for fedora.redhat.com. If you have anything >>> specific you'd like redirected please let me know. Though these >>> redirects will only be temporary. >>> >>> -Mike >>> >> >> Matt, >> Do we still want to point Mirrors to >> http://fedora.redhat.com/Download/mirrors.html ? >> We still have space holder at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mirrors/ >> Regards, > My main concern with having a wiki mirrors site is people who think we > want their DSL connection shared as a mirror and possible malicious use. Wiki != Editable by all. You can always put restrictive ACL's like we do in several parts of the wiki. Rahul > -Mike > From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 16:09:40 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:09:40 -0500 Subject: Research Project - Google In-Reply-To: <20070320153255.GA11784@imperial.ac.uk> References: <45FEEE75.8020806@redhat.com> <45FFE4A5.8090207@redhat.com> <20070320153255.GA11784@imperial.ac.uk> Message-ID: <46000744.3000901@redhat.com> Kostas Georgiou wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 08:41:57AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > >> Adam Pribyl wrote: >> >>> Just look around for topic "google SEO" (Search engine optimization). >>> It's always good to know something about it.:) >>> >> Yes, there are many things I could do. The reason I sent this email is >> because I was wondering if someone ELSE was interested in doing it, I'm >> busy :) A sitemap.xml would be good to have. It'd be a great way to >> get involved with either the websites team or infrastructure team or both. >> > > Getting a sitemap from the wiki is easy http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/?action=sitemap :) > it gives links of the form http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/wiki/Infrastructure (which they > work for some strange reason) but it shouldn't be too hard to fix. > It's probably a good idea to sumbit one since moinmoin use a content=nofollow > on most pages so it's possible although unlikely that some pages have not been > indexed. > > I can have a look if nobody else is interested. > > Thanks, actually jmtaylor already volunteered just this morning. -Mike From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 20 17:32:03 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:02:03 +0530 Subject: Research Project - Google In-Reply-To: <46000744.3000901@redhat.com> References: <45FEEE75.8020806@redhat.com> <45FFE4A5.8090207@redhat.com> <20070320153255.GA11784@imperial.ac.uk> <46000744.3000901@redhat.com> Message-ID: <46001A93.9020104@fedoraproject.org> Mike McGrath wrote: > Kostas Georgiou wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 08:41:57AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: >> >> >>> Adam Pribyl wrote: >>> >>>> Just look around for topic "google SEO" (Search engine >>>> optimization). It's always good to know something about it.:) >>>> >>> Yes, there are many things I could do. The reason I sent this email >>> is because I was wondering if someone ELSE was interested in doing >>> it, I'm busy :) A sitemap.xml would be good to have. It'd be a >>> great way to get involved with either the websites team or >>> infrastructure team or both. >>> >> >> Getting a sitemap from the wiki is easy >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/?action=sitemap :) >> it gives links of the form >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/wiki/Infrastructure (which they >> work for some strange reason) but it shouldn't be too hard to fix. >> It's probably a good idea to sumbit one since moinmoin use a >> content=nofollow >> on most pages so it's possible although unlikely that some pages have >> not been >> indexed. >> >> I can have a look if nobody else is interested. >> >> > Thanks, actually jmtaylor already volunteered just this morning. More people working on the same thing can't hurt as long as you can coordinate in this. Rahul From kwade at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 18:58:03 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:58:03 -0700 Subject: Research Project - Google In-Reply-To: References: <45FEEE75.8020806@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1174417083.18755.253.camel@erato.phig.org> On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 18:36 -0400, Elliot Lee wrote: > > redirecting > fedora.redhat.com (especially the homepage) to fedoraproject.org might > help a lot in this particular situation. Done and looking pretty good. Thanks to all for your help. I'm quite happy that we now have a single documentation URL: http://docs.fedoraproject.org Next step is a CMS. :) - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From kwade at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 19:04:04 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:04:04 -0700 Subject: deprecating content In-Reply-To: <1173555416.11733.70.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1173477761.3935.259.camel@erato.phig.org> <1173555416.11733.70.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1174417444.18755.257.camel@erato.phig.org> On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 14:36 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: > I'm curious as to how many visits we actually *get* for outdated docs, > which would be a good litmus test for whether we really need to maintain > them. This just came up because of two separate bug reports filed about the defunct Stateless Linux tutorial. It was linked from the /docs page but someone (*cough*notting*cough*) had vaporized the content in /web/html/docs/stateless. So I was trying to figure out how to respond. If you look at http://docs.fedoraproject.org today, you'll see some FC3 content in a separate section. I guess you are right; just thinking about how to save it all is wasting valuable brain time. We'll work on moving it out and leaving, "Go get it from CVS," pages in its place. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 20 19:09:54 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 00:39:54 +0530 Subject: Research Project - Google In-Reply-To: <1174417083.18755.253.camel@erato.phig.org> References: <45FEEE75.8020806@redhat.com> <1174417083.18755.253.camel@erato.phig.org> Message-ID: <46003182.1060407@fedoraproject.org> Karsten Wade wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 18:36 -0400, Elliot Lee wrote: >>> redirecting >> fedora.redhat.com (especially the homepage) to fedoraproject.org might >> help a lot in this particular situation. > > Done and looking pretty good. Thanks to all for your help. I'm quite > happy that we now have a single documentation URL: > > http://docs.fedoraproject.org > > Next step is a CMS. :) Next step would be having a consistent look similar to fedoraproject.org instead of inheriting it from fedora.redhat.com and making it look odd and different. Rahul From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 20:47:59 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:47:59 -0500 Subject: Wiki slowness Message-ID: <4600487F.1020002@redhat.com> I've been examining more closely why wiki saves are slow. At this time it appears the issue is in notifications. More to the point, determining who to notify. Our wiki supports regex for page notifications. This means that when you save a page, Moin has to iterate over all users (currently about 10,000 registered) before it knows who to notify. Actually sending the notifications doesn't take that long, but figuring out who to mail can take a long long time. My tests show between 30 and 95 seconds. When I disabled notifications saves dropped to 2-3 seconds. I'm not sure what to do from here but it looks like it will take a code change (I'm working with some guys in #moin). I'm continuing to look into it but wanted to let everyone know what was going on. -Mike From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 21:22:11 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Michael Patrick McGrath (mmcgrath)) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:22:11 -0400 Subject: web/include widgets.inc,1.15,1.16 Message-ID: <200703202122.l2KLMfSu011909@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: mmcgrath Update of /cvs/fedora/web/include In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv11870/include Modified Files: widgets.inc Log Message: this was killing me Index: widgets.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/include/widgets.inc,v retrieving revision 1.15 retrieving revision 1.16 diff -u -r1.15 -r1.16 --- widgets.inc 7 Dec 2005 17:11:04 -0000 1.15 +++ widgets.inc 20 Mar 2007 21:22:09 -0000 1.16 @@ -77,7 +77,8 @@ if (!isset($node) || !is_array($node) || empty($node)) { //var_dump(debug_backtrace()); - @mail("webmaster at fedora.redhat.com", "Debug output from f.r.c", var_export(debug_backtrace(), TRUE)); + # Don't enable this unless you change the email address. It gets picked up by the ticket system and is very annoying + #@mail("webmaster at fedora.redhat.com", "Debug output from f.r.c", var_export(debug_backtrace(), TRUE)); return; } From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 21:22:11 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Michael Patrick McGrath (mmcgrath)) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:22:11 -0400 Subject: web/scripts websync,1.1.1.1,1.2 Message-ID: <200703202122.l2KLMfWP011912@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: mmcgrath Update of /cvs/fedora/web/scripts In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv11870/scripts Modified Files: websync Log Message: this was killing me Index: websync =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/scripts/websync,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 -r1.2 --- websync 30 Mar 2005 17:47:28 -0000 1.1.1.1 +++ websync 20 Mar 2007 21:22:09 -0000 1.2 @@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ # # Tunables # -MAILTO="tfox at redhat.com" +MAILTO="mmcgrath at redhat.com" LOCKFILE=/var/tmp/websync.lock RSYNCUSER="rhlweb" RSYNCPASS="haberdashery" From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 21:37:45 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:37:45 -0400 Subject: web/include navigation.inc,1.23,1.24 Message-ID: <200703202137.l2KLbjaj013389@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/include In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv13370/include Modified Files: navigation.inc Log Message: better wording, although I'm still unhappy with the strangeness of what is in that nav Index: navigation.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/include/navigation.inc,v retrieving revision 1.23 retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -r1.23 -r1.24 --- navigation.inc 19 Mar 2007 23:01:33 -0000 1.23 +++ navigation.inc 20 Mar 2007 21:37:43 -0000 1.24 @@ -13,7 +13,7 @@ )), "Download Fedora"=>array("uri"=>"http://download.fedoraproject.org"), "Join"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join"), - "Join Docs"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Join"), + "Join Docs Project"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Join"), "Fedora Schedule"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule"), "Docs Schedule"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule") ); From a.badger at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 21:19:36 2007 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:19:36 -0700 Subject: Wiki slowness In-Reply-To: <4600487F.1020002@redhat.com> References: <4600487F.1020002@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1174425576.24014.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:47 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > I've been examining more closely why wiki saves are slow. At this time > it appears the issue is in notifications. More to the point, > determining who to notify. Our wiki supports regex for page > notifications. This means that when you save a page, Moin has to > iterate over all users (currently about 10,000 registered) before it > knows who to notify. Actually sending the notifications doesn't take > that long, but figuring out who to mail can take a long long time. My > tests show between 30 and 95 seconds. When I disabled notifications > saves dropped to 2-3 seconds. I'm not sure what to do from here but it > looks like it will take a code change (I'm working with some guys in > #moin). I'm continuing to look into it but wanted to let everyone know > what was going on. I can think of two possibilities for speeding this up:: 1) Make the notifications async. Save a notification message into a queue. A worker thread/process processes the queue for who needs to be alerted to this. 2) On page creation and notification preference changes, update a list of which people should be notified of changes. Then you can just use this list when sending the notification. I've got a bit too much other stuff to do to take one of these on right now, though. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From a.badger at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 00:43:19 2007 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:43:19 -0700 Subject: Wiki slowness In-Reply-To: <1174425576.24014.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4600487F.1020002@redhat.com> <1174425576.24014.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1174437799.24014.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 14:19 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > 1) Make the notifications async. Save a notification message into a > queue. A worker thread/process processes the queue for who needs to be > alerted to this. This seemed easy enough that I took a look at doing it. I'd forgotten that moin displays a list of the people that it's emailing the changes to. Because of that, we have to do the subscriber lookup even if we don't immediately send the email. (Unless we want to disable the in-web-page message as well.) -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at redhat.com Wed Mar 21 00:45:38 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=ED=ADn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:45:38 -0400 Subject: Wiki slowness In-Reply-To: <1174437799.24014.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4600487F.1020002@redhat.com> <1174425576.24014.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174437799.24014.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <46008032.4070102@redhat.com> Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 14:19 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> 1) Make the notifications async. Save a notification message into a >> queue. A worker thread/process processes the queue for who needs to be >> alerted to this. > > This seemed easy enough that I took a look at doing it. I'd forgotten > that moin displays a list of the people that it's emailing the changes > to. Because of that, we have to do the subscriber lookup even if we > don't immediately send the email. (Unless we want to disable the > in-web-page message as well.) > Maybe this is a silly idea but it would be nice if every wiki page's change log was an RSS feed that people could subscribe to. Then, rather than parsing through the entire list of users every edit to figure out who to mail, moin would just write out a history node in the RSS and whoever was interested in it and is subscribed would get it via whichever RSS mechanism they choose. RSS happy, ~m From tux_mints at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 01:32:59 2007 From: tux_mints at yahoo.com (craig thomas) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wiki slowness In-Reply-To: <46008032.4070102@redhat.com> Message-ID: <960267.88492.qm@web35101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > Maybe this is a silly idea but it would be nice if > every wiki page's > change log was an RSS feed that people could > subscribe to. Then, rather > than parsing through the entire list of users every > edit to figure out > who to mail, moin would just write out a history > node in the RSS and > whoever was interested in it and is subscribed would > get it via > whichever RSS mechanism they choose. I think that is a great idea. Doesn't MoinMoin support RSS or syndication already? If not, RSS xml is simple enough...if some one can point me at the correct db.tables for the MoinMoin page edit logs/changes, generating a script to write xml/RSS files then fired via cron would be KISS, IMHO. (And just drop the display list of 'subscribers'...if they want it let em come get it via RSS). -- Craig ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From duffy at redhat.com Wed Mar 21 01:38:51 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=ED=ADn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:38:51 -0400 Subject: Wiki slowness In-Reply-To: <960267.88492.qm@web35101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <960267.88492.qm@web35101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46008CAB.6040609@redhat.com> craig thomas wrote: > --- M?ir??n Duffy wrote: >> Maybe this is a silly idea but it would be nice if >> every wiki page's >> change log was an RSS feed that people could >> subscribe to. Then, rather >> than parsing through the entire list of users every >> edit to figure out >> who to mail, moin would just write out a history >> node in the RSS and >> whoever was interested in it and is subscribed would >> get it via >> whichever RSS mechanism they choose. > > I think that is a great idea. Doesn't MoinMoin support > RSS or syndication already? > > If not, RSS xml is simple enough...if some one can > point me at the correct db.tables for the MoinMoin > page edit logs/changes, generating a script to write > xml/RSS files then fired via cron would be KISS, IMHO. > (And just drop the display list of 'subscribers'...if > they want it let em come get it via RSS). I was thinking about this a bit more - it might be easier for people to deal with one RSS feed rather than one feed per page they are watching? So maybe they subscribe to pages using the same mechanism, but in their preferences page when they login, where it has all their subscriptions, they can also grab one RSS feed that they can get info on all the pages they're subscribed to. I still think one feed per page is also good - maybe someone who doesn't have a wiki account wants to keep up with one page. ~m From dimitris at glezos.com Wed Mar 21 02:48:24 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:48:24 +0000 Subject: Wiki slowness In-Reply-To: <46008CAB.6040609@redhat.com> References: <960267.88492.qm@web35101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <46008CAB.6040609@redhat.com> Message-ID: <46009CF8.9010000@glezos.com> O/H M?ir??n Duffy ??????: > craig thomas wrote: >> --- M?ir??n Duffy wrote: >>> Maybe this is a silly idea but it would be nice if >>> every wiki page's change log was an RSS feed that people could >>> subscribe to. Then, rather than parsing through the entire list of >>> users every >>> edit to figure out who to mail, moin would just write out a history >>> node in the RSS and whoever was interested in it and is subscribed would >>> get it via whichever RSS mechanism they choose. >> >> I think that is a great idea. Doesn't MoinMoin support >> RSS or syndication already? >> If not, RSS xml is simple enough...if some one can >> point me at the correct db.tables for the MoinMoin >> page edit logs/changes, generating a script to write >> xml/RSS files then fired via cron would be KISS, IMHO. >> (And just drop the display list of 'subscribers'...if >> they want it let em come get it via RSS). > > I was thinking about this a bit more - > > it might be easier for people to deal with one RSS feed rather than one > feed per page they are watching? So maybe they subscribe to pages using > the same mechanism, but in their preferences page when they login, where > it has all their subscriptions, they can also grab one RSS feed that > they can get info on all the pages they're subscribed to. I still think > one feed per page is also good - maybe someone who doesn't have a wiki > account wants to keep up with one page. There are some feature requests for this. See: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests/LimitedRecentChanges http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests#head-58fb3cc3fc5907e114ab686538a81f4f5b7422d6 I think currently there is a patch for subpages but no patch for Watchlist. Seems like a popular demand though. FWIW, I think we shouldn't remove the notification via email. On the other hand, Toshio, I don't think I'd had a problem not to see who is notified for a change of mine. I'll even go on and say that this info (who is watching the page) might be considered "private info" for a user. :) -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 21 04:43:59 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:43:59 -0700 Subject: planet.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <369bce3b0703202143u42839b40ndb0576efe31c3346@mail.gmail.com> I'm sorry if I missed the announcement but what happened to http://planet.fedoraproject.org/? I'm getting following message: ## torrent.linux.duke.edu This site hosts torrents for the fedora and gnome projects. Please see: http://torrent.fedoraproject.org and http://torrent.gnome.org for the torrent files. For information on the current files being tracked please see the Download Info page. admin at linux.duke.edu ## Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Mar 21 13:17:09 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:17:09 -0500 Subject: fedora.redhat.com is no more In-Reply-To: <1ed4a0130703210144q59b55602q236fc91f200a5691@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FF131B.8050201@redhat.com> <1ed4a0130703210144q59b55602q236fc91f200a5691@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46013055.6070402@redhat.com> Russell Harrison wrote: > On 3/19/07, *Greg Dekoenigsberg* > wrote: > > > Ding dong, the witch is dead! :) > > > heh, and now let the process for exorcism begin. . . > > It all seriousness where is the proper place to report dead links and > the like. The fedora infrastructure ticket system, or is there a > bugzilla category those should go under? The tickets system or just email the website-list. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Mar 21 13:19:24 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:19:24 -0500 Subject: planet.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703202143u42839b40ndb0576efe31c3346@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0703202143u42839b40ndb0576efe31c3346@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <460130DC.4050605@redhat.com> Thomas Chung wrote: > I'm sorry if I missed the announcement but what happened to > http://planet.fedoraproject.org/? > I'm getting following message: planet should still be there and WORKSFORME. We did change which DNS server is our master. It used to be on the planet box, now its on the torrent box and I had thought those problems were solved by now. If you are on today stop by #fedora-admin. I'll have some troubleshooting steps for you to run because I have yet to be able to re-create this issue. What are others getting? -Mike From couf at skynet.be Wed Mar 21 13:31:43 2007 From: couf at skynet.be (Bart Couvreur) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:31:43 +0100 Subject: planet.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <460130DC.4050605@redhat.com> References: <369bce3b0703202143u42839b40ndb0576efe31c3346@mail.gmail.com> <460130DC.4050605@redhat.com> Message-ID: <460133BF.9070508@skynet.be> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike McGrath schreef: > Thomas Chung wrote: >> I'm sorry if I missed the announcement but what happened to >> http://planet.fedoraproject.org/? >> I'm getting following message: > planet should still be there and WORKSFORME. We did change which DNS > server is our master. It used to be on the planet box, now its on the > torrent box and I had thought those problems were solved by now. If you > are on today stop by #fedora-admin. I'll have some troubleshooting > steps for you to run because I have yet to be able to re-create this issue. > > What are others getting? > No problem here, works for me too. Bart - -- Bart key fingerprint: 6AAB 544D 3432 D013 776D 3602 ADB6 6B2A D93F 0F93 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGATO1rbZrKtk/D5MRAhjaAJ9k74dggSfInca+AEDz23XlIdKRtgCeM2XJ VqdBujKf+oADrDj1JqWOzcU= =GN2j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ryanc75 at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 13:37:15 2007 From: ryanc75 at gmail.com (Ryan Coleman) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:37:15 +0000 Subject: planet.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <460133BF.9070508@skynet.be> References: <369bce3b0703202143u42839b40ndb0576efe31c3346@mail.gmail.com> <460130DC.4050605@redhat.com> <460133BF.9070508@skynet.be> Message-ID: <136c5afe0703210637s6b641dd0ofec3e0ce23240b9e@mail.gmail.com> Its working for me to you mentioned DNS so this is the results of my nslookup. Non-authoritative answer: planet.fedoraproject.org canonical name = fpserv.fedoraproject.org. Name: fpserv.fedoraproject.org Address: 152.3.220.165 What has happened to fedora.redhat.com does this mean things like the account system will be converted to the fedora wiki look. Ryan On 21/03/07, Bart Couvreur wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mike McGrath schreef: > > Thomas Chung wrote: > >> I'm sorry if I missed the announcement but what happened to > >> http://planet.fedoraproject.org/? > >> I'm getting following message: > > planet should still be there and WORKSFORME. We did change which DNS > > server is our master. It used to be on the planet box, now its on the > > torrent box and I had thought those problems were solved by now. If you > > are on today stop by #fedora-admin. I'll have some troubleshooting > > steps for you to run because I have yet to be able to re-create this > issue. > > > > What are others getting? > > > > No problem here, works for me too. > > Bart > > > - -- > Bart > key fingerprint: 6AAB 544D 3432 D013 776D 3602 ADB6 6B2A D93F 0F93 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGATO1rbZrKtk/D5MRAhjaAJ9k74dggSfInca+AEDz23XlIdKRtgCeM2XJ > VqdBujKf+oADrDj1JqWOzcU= > =GN2j > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Mar 21 13:53:39 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:53:39 -0500 Subject: planet.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <136c5afe0703210637s6b641dd0ofec3e0ce23240b9e@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0703202143u42839b40ndb0576efe31c3346@mail.gmail.com> <460130DC.4050605@redhat.com> <460133BF.9070508@skynet.be> <136c5afe0703210637s6b641dd0ofec3e0ce23240b9e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <460138E3.5060408@redhat.com> Ryan Coleman wrote: > Its working for me to you mentioned DNS so this is the results of my > nslookup. > > Non-authoritative answer: > planet.fedoraproject.org > canonical name = fpserv.fedoraproject.org > . > Name: fpserv.fedoraproject.org > Address: 152.3.220.165 > > What has happened to fedora.redhat.com does > this mean things like the account system will be converted to the > fedora wiki look. > Ryan fedora.redhat.com (AKA f.rh.c) used to run on non-Fedora hardware. Its now being redirected to the wiki (along with a few special rewrites). As for the account system, it and many other infrastructure pieces are currently being re-written. We're working with different UI people to come up with a common look for our infrastructure apps though I don't know that it will/should match the wiki. -Mike From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 21 15:16:24 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:16:24 +0200 Subject: planet.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <460133BF.9070508@skynet.be> References: <369bce3b0703202143u42839b40ndb0576efe31c3346@mail.gmail.com> <460130DC.4050605@redhat.com> <460133BF.9070508@skynet.be> Message-ID: <46014C48.5070407@nicubunu.ro> Mike McGrath schreef: >> Thomas Chung wrote: >>> I'm sorry if I missed the announcement but what happened to >>> http://planet.fedoraproject.org/? >>> I'm getting following message: >> planet should still be there and WORKSFORME. We did change which DNS >> server is our master. It used to be on the planet box, now its on the >> torrent box and I had thought those problems were solved by now. If you >> are on today stop by #fedora-admin. I'll have some troubleshooting >> steps for you to run because I have yet to be able to re-create this issue. >> >> What are others getting? Some hours ago (*after* Thomas complained) I had the correct version of the page, now I get torrent.linux.duke.edu -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Mar 21 15:18:42 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:18:42 -0500 Subject: planet.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <46014C48.5070407@nicubunu.ro> References: <369bce3b0703202143u42839b40ndb0576efe31c3346@mail.gmail.com> <460130DC.4050605@redhat.com> <460133BF.9070508@skynet.be> <46014C48.5070407@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <46014CD2.9000906@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Mike McGrath schreef: >>> Thomas Chung wrote: >>>> I'm sorry if I missed the announcement but what happened to >>>> http://planet.fedoraproject.org/? >>>> I'm getting following message: >>> planet should still be there and WORKSFORME. We did change which DNS >>> server is our master. It used to be on the planet box, now its on the >>> torrent box and I had thought those problems were solved by now. If >>> you >>> are on today stop by #fedora-admin. I'll have some troubleshooting >>> steps for you to run because I have yet to be able to re-create this >>> issue. >>> >>> What are others getting? > > Some hours ago (*after* Thomas complained) I had the correct version > of the page, now I get torrent.linux.duke.edu > dig planet.fedoraproject.org and send me the output. -Mike From pedrolvicente at netcabo.pt Wed Mar 21 17:31:58 2007 From: pedrolvicente at netcabo.pt (Pedro Vicente) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:31:58 -0000 Subject: Posting in fedora websites list Message-ID: <5or2lh$6eoqva@neti03smtp.hdi.tvcabo> pedrolvicente at netcabo.pt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Mar 21 18:30:21 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:30:21 -0500 Subject: Research Project - Google In-Reply-To: References: <45FEEE75.8020806@redhat.com> <1174417083.18755.253.camel@erato.phig.org> Message-ID: <460179BD.4070308@redhat.com> Elliot Lee wrote: > Just a tiny follow-up - it looks like the redirects are currently HTTP > code 302 (temporary redirect), and should really be 301 (permanently > moved). If using Apache and mod_redirect, just change 'Redirect' to > 'Redirect permanent'. > > http://www.seotoday.com/browse.php/category/articles/id/477/index.php I've sent an email about this, hope to have it changed or at least hear back soon. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Mar 21 18:45:28 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:45:28 -0500 Subject: Research Project - Google In-Reply-To: <460179BD.4070308@redhat.com> References: <45FEEE75.8020806@redhat.com> <1174417083.18755.253.camel@erato.phig.org> <460179BD.4070308@redhat.com> Message-ID: <46017D48.2060801@redhat.com> Mike McGrath wrote: > > I've sent an email about this, hope to have it changed or at least > hear back soon. Looks good: echo 'GET /soc/ HTTP/1.1 Host: fedoraproject.org ' | nc fedora.redhat.com 80 HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently -Mike From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 21 19:11:51 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:11:51 -0700 Subject: planet.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <46014CD2.9000906@redhat.com> References: <369bce3b0703202143u42839b40ndb0576efe31c3346@mail.gmail.com> <460130DC.4050605@redhat.com> <460133BF.9070508@skynet.be> <46014C48.5070407@nicubunu.ro> <46014CD2.9000906@redhat.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703211211p730b6f97m884781ba27d0f3d@mail.gmail.com> On 3/21/07, Mike McGrath wrote: > dig planet.fedoraproject.org and send me the output. > > -Mike I still get the same message. Here is my dig: $ dig planet.fedoraproject.org ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> planet.fedoraproject.org ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 56295 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;planet.fedoraproject.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: planet.fedoraproject.org. 3570 IN CNAME fpserv.fedoraproject.org. fpserv.fedoraproject.org. 84442 IN A 152.3.220.165 ;; Query time: 29 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1) ;; WHEN: Wed Mar 21 12:07:43 2007 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79 Perhaps, my ISP (Charter Glendale) is having DNS issue. I'll keep you posted in a few days. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Wed Mar 21 23:23:55 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Paul W. Frields (pfrields)) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:23:55 -0400 Subject: web/include navigation.inc,1.24,1.25 Message-ID: <200703212323.l2LNNt1J026554@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: pfrields Update of /cvs/fedora/web/include In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv26537/include Modified Files: navigation.inc Log Message: Make side links work properly Index: navigation.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/include/navigation.inc,v retrieving revision 1.24 retrieving revision 1.25 diff -u -r1.24 -r1.25 --- navigation.inc 20 Mar 2007 21:37:43 -0000 1.24 +++ navigation.inc 21 Mar 2007 23:23:53 -0000 1.25 @@ -6,10 +6,10 @@ $nav_list=array( "Documentation"=>array("uri"=>"/","sub"=>array( - "Release Notes"=>array("uri"=>"/docs/release-notes/"), - "Installation Guide"=>array("uri"=>"/docs/install-guide/"), + "Release Notes"=>array("uri"=>"/release-notes/"), + "Installation Guide"=>array("uri"=>"/install-guide/"), "Desktop User Guide"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/DesktopUserGuide"), - "Managing Software With Yum"=>array("uri"=>"/docs/yum/"), + "Managing Software With Yum"=>array("uri"=>"/yum/"), )), "Download Fedora"=>array("uri"=>"http://download.fedoraproject.org"), "Join"=>array("uri"=>"http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join"), From kwade at redhat.com Thu Mar 22 02:02:07 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:02:07 -0700 Subject: Research Project - Google In-Reply-To: <46003182.1060407@fedoraproject.org> References: <45FEEE75.8020806@redhat.com> <1174417083.18755.253.camel@erato.phig.org> <46003182.1060407@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1174528927.18755.385.camel@erato.phig.org> On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 00:39 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Next step would be having a consistent look similar to fedoraproject.org > instead of inheriting it from fedora.redhat.com and making it look odd > and different. 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    From tux_mints at yahoo.com Fri Mar 23 02:06:18 2007 From: tux_mints at yahoo.com (craig thomas) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wiki slownessThat In-Reply-To: <46009CF8.9010000@glezos.com> Message-ID: <401813.38540.qm@web35105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi All, --- Dimitris Glezos wrote: > O/H M??ir????n Duffy ????????????: > > it might be easier for people to deal with one RSS > feed rather than one > > feed per page they are watching? So maybe they > subscribe to pages using > > the same mechanism, but in their preferences page > when they login, where > > it has all their subscriptions, they can also grab > one RSS feed that > > they can get info on all the pages they're > subscribed to. I still think > > one feed per page is also good - maybe someone who > doesn't have a wiki > > account wants to keep up with one page.l After thinking about this and my initial positive reactions, I'm not sure how much I like user level RSS feeds. Mostly because I don't care for the page level changes/subscribe thing. For me, that's too narrow of a scope and requires too much work, as a user. If I want to know or learn what is happening in any (or each) of Fedora's (sub)projects, why should i have to know about and subscribe to various pages? what if i pick a 'dead' page becuase I don't know any better?...why cant i just watch via RSS a project's change sets across _all_ their pages? This, I feel, could connect interested people to current information in a much more comprhensive manner. Also, it appears to have the added benefit of publishing the most often changed content/ fastest moving project's information at *any* given moment in time with _no_ user interaction required (that of subscribing to new pages). Anyway, those are my thoughts. I am happy to help implement whatever is decided regardless of what that decision may turn out to be. > > There are some feature requests for this. See: > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests/LimitedRecentChanges > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests#head-58fb3cc3fc5907e114ab686538a81f4f5b7422d6 > > I think currently there is a patch for subpages but > no patch for Watchlist. > Seems like a popular demand though. Wow, those look like old RFE's, no!? I'm going to take a closer look at the MoinMoin now, but do u know if either of those pathces were accepted and are in our version? > FWIW, I think we shouldn't remove the notification > via email. On the other hand, > Toshio, I don't think I'd had a problem not to see > who is notified for a change > of mine. I'll even go on and say that this info (who > is watching the page) might > be considered "private info" for a user. :) Well, I'd like RSS feeds, but what do I care if we do both ? :) however, wasn't the whole point of the thread how slow the e-mail/user subscribe-list feature was, and publishing an RSS feed was proposed as a possible solution? if we don't axe the e-mails, we've done nothing to solve our problem yet. That's not to say we can't have e-mail and RSS notifications. Cheers, -- Craig ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Fri Mar 23 03:48:57 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:48:57 -0400 Subject: web/html/docs/selinux-faq index.php,1.6,1.7 Message-ID: <200703230348.l2N3mvbo027746@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/selinux-faq In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv27729 Modified Files: index.php Log Message: missed this index.php fix, resolving bz #233548 Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/selinux-faq/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.6 retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -r1.6 -r1.7 --- index.php 8 Jun 2006 22:31:38 -0000 1.6 +++ index.php 23 Mar 2007 03:48:54 -0000 1.7 @@ -12,7 +12,7 @@
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    - +
    [Tip]Fedora Core 5 SELinux FAQ aItalian translation (beta) is availableFedora Core 5 SELinux FAQ aItalian translation (beta) is available

    -There is a draft/beta version of the Fedora Core 5 SELinux FAQ in Italian available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/it/. File bugs via Fedora Documentation in Bugzilla, under the selinux-faq component. +There is a draft/beta version of the Fedora Core 5 SELinux FAQ in Italian available at http://fedora.redhat.com/selinux-faq-fc5/it/. File bugs via Fedora Documentation in Bugzilla, under the selinux-faq component.

    @@ -39,11 +39,11 @@
    - +
    [Tip]Fedora Core 5 SELinux FAQ Portuguese (pt) translation (beta) is availableFedora Core 5 SELinux FAQ Portuguese (pt) translation (beta) is available

    -There is a draft/beta version of the Fedora Core 5 SELinux FAQ in Portuguese (pt) available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/pt/. File bugs via Fedora Documentation in Bugzilla, under the selinux-faq component. +There is a draft/beta version of the Fedora Core 5 SELinux FAQ in Portuguese (pt) available at http://fedora.redhat.com/selinux-faq-fc5/pt/. File bugs via Fedora Documentation in Bugzilla, under the selinux-faq component.

    @@ -58,17 +58,17 @@

    - To obtain the source XML for this document, for example when writing a patch to submit in a bug report, follow the directions on the Docs Project to download using anonymous CVS. The module you want is fedora-docs/selinux-faq/. This will get you the latest XML source code. + To obtain the source XML for this document, for example when writing a patch to submit in a bug report, follow the directions on the Docs Project to download using anonymous CVS. The module you want is fedora-docs/selinux-faq/. This will get you the latest XML source code.

    If you are interested in writing docs for as part of the - , refer to the Documentation Project. + , refer to the Documentation Project.

    From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Fri Mar 23 04:20:47 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:20:47 -0400 Subject: web/html/docs/selinux-faq index.php,1.7,1.8 Message-ID: <200703230420.l2N4KlMe032392@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/selinux-faq In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32375 Modified Files: index.php Log Message: updating other links I didn't notice Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/selinux-faq/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.7 retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.7 -r1.8 --- index.php 23 Mar 2007 03:48:54 -0000 1.7 +++ index.php 23 Mar 2007 04:20:45 -0000 1.8 @@ -64,18 +64,11 @@

    - To obtain the source XML for this document, for example when writing a patch to submit in a bug report, follow the directions on the Docs Project to download using anonymous CVS. The module you want is fedora-docs/selinux-faq/. This will get you the latest XML source code. + To obtain the source XML for this document, for example when writing a patch to submit in a bug report, follow the directions on the Docs Project to download using anonymous CVS. The module you want is /cvs/docs/selinux-faq/. This will get you the latest XML source code.

    If you are interested in writing docs for as part of the - , refer to the Documentation Project. -

    - -

    - If you think a specific piece of documentation is needed, enter a - request for enhancement (RFE) in Bugzilla. Look over bug - #129807 first to be sure your request is not already - in progress. If it is not, add your idea to bug #129784 for the Fedora Documentation Project to address. + , refer to the Documentation Project.

    I don't know if this is just me but every time i edit a page and go to save, the page is saved, the change is noted but the screen appears blank and a confirmation of the wiki page being edited is not shown nor is any other part of the page. Is this a bug or do you think this is me. At the time i was using a AppleMac with Firefox 2.0.0.3. Thanks all. Ryan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sat Mar 24 02:51:13 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Matt Domsch (mdomsch)) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:51:13 -0400 Subject: web/html/Download mirrors.php,1.40,1.41 Message-ID: <200703240251.l2O2pDTZ008407@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: mdomsch Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/Download In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv8375 Modified Files: mirrors.php Log Message: added fedora.ifc.unam.mx and ftp.kaist.ac.kr Index: mirrors.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/Download/mirrors.php,v retrieving revision 1.40 retrieving revision 1.41 diff -u -r1.40 -r1.41 --- mirrors.php 22 Feb 2007 19:41:32 -0000 1.40 +++ mirrors.php 24 Mar 2007 02:51:11 -0000 1.41 @@ -141,6 +141,11 @@
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  • South America From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sat Mar 24 02:51:13 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Matt Domsch (mdomsch)) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:51:13 -0400 Subject: web/html/Download/mirrors fedora-core-5, 1.31, 1.32 fedora-core-6, 1.25, 1.26 updates-released-fc5, 1.30, 1.31 updates-released-fc6, 1.17, 1.18 Message-ID: <200703240251.l2O2pDhL008416@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: mdomsch Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/Download/mirrors In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv8375/mirrors Modified Files: fedora-core-5 fedora-core-6 updates-released-fc5 updates-released-fc6 Log Message: added fedora.ifc.unam.mx and ftp.kaist.ac.kr Index: fedora-core-5 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/Download/mirrors/fedora-core-5,v retrieving revision 1.31 retrieving revision 1.32 diff -u -r1.31 -r1.32 --- fedora-core-5 22 Feb 2007 19:41:33 -0000 1.31 +++ fedora-core-5 24 Mar 2007 02:51:11 -0000 1.32 @@ -92,3 +92,5 @@ http://ftp.astral.ro/distros/fedora/core/5/$ARCH/os/ ftp://mirror.nyi.net/fedora/5/$ARCH/os/ http://mirror.steadfast.net/fedora/core/5/$ARCH/os/ +http://fedora.ifc.unam.mx/fedora/5/$ARCH/os/ +http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/fedora/linux/core/5/$ARCH/os/ Index: fedora-core-6 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/Download/mirrors/fedora-core-6,v retrieving revision 1.25 retrieving revision 1.26 diff -u -r1.25 -r1.26 --- fedora-core-6 22 Feb 2007 19:41:33 -0000 1.25 +++ fedora-core-6 24 Mar 2007 02:51:11 -0000 1.26 @@ -93,3 +93,5 @@ ftp://mirror.nyi.net/fedora/6/$ARCH/os/ http://fedora.mirrors.hoobly.com/6/$ARCH/os/ http://mirror.steadfast.net/fedora/core/6/$ARCH/os/ +http://fedora.ifc.unam.mx/fedora/6/$ARCH/os/ +http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/$ARCH/os/ Index: updates-released-fc5 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/Download/mirrors/updates-released-fc5,v retrieving revision 1.30 retrieving revision 1.31 diff -u -r1.30 -r1.31 --- updates-released-fc5 21 Feb 2007 19:00:34 -0000 1.30 +++ updates-released-fc5 24 Mar 2007 02:51:11 -0000 1.31 @@ -64,3 +64,5 @@ ftp://mirror.nyi.net/fedora/updates/5/$ARCH/ http://fedora.mirrors.hoobly.com/updates/5/$ARCH/ http://mirror.steadfast.net/fedora/core/updates/5/$ARCH/ +http://fedora.ifc.unam.mx/fedora/updates/5/$ARCH/ +http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/5/$ARCH/ Index: updates-released-fc6 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/Download/mirrors/updates-released-fc6,v retrieving revision 1.17 retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -r1.17 -r1.18 --- updates-released-fc6 21 Feb 2007 19:00:34 -0000 1.17 +++ updates-released-fc6 24 Mar 2007 02:51:11 -0000 1.18 @@ -66,3 +66,5 @@ ftp://mirror.nyi.net/fedora/updates/6/$ARCH/ http://fedora.mirrors.hoobly.com/updates/6/$ARCH/ http://mirror.steadfast.net/fedora/core/updates/6/$ARCH/ +http://fedora.ifc.unam.mx/fedora/updates/6/$ARCH/ +http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/$ARCH/ From stickster at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 15:15:13 2007 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:15:13 -0400 Subject: Wiki slownessThat In-Reply-To: <401813.38540.qm@web35105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <401813.38540.qm@web35105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1174835713.25234.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 19:06 -0700, craig thomas wrote: > Hi All, > > --- Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > > O/H M??ir????n Duffy ???????????: > > > it might be easier for people to deal with one RSS > > feed rather than one > > > feed per page they are watching? So maybe they > > subscribe to pages using > > > the same mechanism, but in their preferences page > > when they login, where > > > it has all their subscriptions, they can also grab > > one RSS feed that > > > they can get info on all the pages they're > > subscribed to. I still think > > > one feed per page is also good - maybe someone who > > doesn't have a wiki > > > account wants to keep up with one page.l > > After thinking about this and my initial positive > reactions, I'm not sure how much I like user level RSS > feeds. Mostly because I don't care for the page level > changes/subscribe thing. For me, that's too narrow of > a scope and requires too much work, as a user. > > If I want to know or learn what is happening in any > (or each) of Fedora's (sub)projects, why should i have > to know about and subscribe to various pages? what if > i pick a 'dead' page becuase I don't know any > better?...why cant i just watch via RSS a project's > change sets across _all_ their pages? > > This, I feel, could connect interested people to > current information in a much more comprhensive > manner. Also, it appears to have the added benefit of > publishing the most often changed content/ fastest > moving project's information at *any* given moment in > time with _no_ user interaction required (that of > subscribing to new pages). > > Anyway, those are my thoughts. I am happy to help > implement whatever is decided regardless of what that > decision may turn out to be. I'm using this already, but I'm pretty sure it's not drilling down to the level you guys are talking about: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RecentChanges?action=rss_rc&ddiffs=1&unique=1 -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields schrieb: > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 19:06 -0700, craig thomas wrote: > [...] > I'm using this already, but I'm pretty sure it's not drilling down to > the level you guys are talking about: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RecentChanges?action=rss_rc&ddiffs=1&unique=1 Agreed -- the diffs moin moin sends out make it easy to follow what chaning; having only this rss feed would make it much harder. :-( CU thl From dimitris at glezos.com Sun Mar 25 19:14:12 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:14:12 +0100 Subject: Separating theme-wide from wiki-wide CSS Message-ID: <4606CA04.5070803@glezos.com> Yo. We should split the kindofblue CSS into two parts, one kindofblue-specific and one that should be applied to all themes. This is to make custom tables, positioning stuff and message boxes that pages use to work across themes. Could someone with privileges please: 1. Add the attached file to something like `/../common/css/` for example: `/usr/share/moin/htdocs/common/css/` and add this in CVS. 2. Make the following change in `wikiconfig.py`: @@ -132,6 +132,11 @@ # The default theme anonymous or new users get theme_default = 'kindofblue' + # Stylesheet to be included for all themes (glezos, 25/3/07) + stylesheets = [ + ('screen', '/wikidata/common/css/screen-common.css') + ] + 3. Make changes to the kindofblue repo live. I haven't removed the global-css yet, so that people's browsers get to know the new CSS and *then* we ca remove the duplicated styles. So in a few days we can remove them from kindofblue/screen.css. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 25 22:52:38 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 04:22:38 +0530 Subject: web instructions Message-ID: <4606FD36.8030508@fedoraproject.org> Hi Should the instructions on accessing fedora.redhat.com in CVS be removed? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/CVS Also some web searches are turning up rhold website. Possibly you can add a robots file to avoid google from caching this website. Rahul From nman64 at n-man.com Sun Mar 25 23:07:00 2007 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:07:00 -0500 Subject: web instructions In-Reply-To: <4606FD36.8030508@fedoraproject.org> References: <4606FD36.8030508@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200703251807.03269.nman64@n-man.com> On Sunday 25 March 2007, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Should the instructions on accessing fedora.redhat.com in CVS be removed? > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/CVS > I don't think we should remove it (yet), but the page can be tagged as deprecated. > Also some web searches are turning up rhold website. Possibly you can > add a robots file to avoid google from caching this website. > Google's crawlers will follow 403 redirects. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Possibly you can >> add a robots file to avoid google from caching this website. >> > > Google's crawlers will follow 403 redirects. I am talking about rhold.fp.o if that wasnt clear. Rahul From mmcgrath at redhat.com Sun Mar 25 23:44:35 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:44:35 -0500 Subject: web instructions In-Reply-To: <4607021C.9050803@fedoraproject.org> References: <4606FD36.8030508@fedoraproject.org> <200703251807.03269.nman64@n-man.com> <4607021C.9050803@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <46070963.903@redhat.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I am talking about rhold.fp.o if that wasnt clear. rhold is there intentionally, we're still dependent on it for our mirror system. The rest of it is there for a fall back but its probably time to remove it, certainly any references to it. -Mike From duffy at redhat.com Mon Mar 26 00:59:04 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=ED=ADn_Duffy?=) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:59:04 -0400 Subject: Wiki Theme Message-ID: <46071AD8.7030109@redhat.com> Hey everybody, I've been interested in playing around with moin for a good while and I finally got around to getting my own server up again so I had the space and ability to set up my own install to poke around in. So I came up with a Fedora theme for it (I started with cornicen from the moin ThemeMarket [1] as a base): http://wiki.linuxgrrl.com/ The mockups I started out with and the theme files are here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/LookAndFeel/WikiNotes Also note that a lot of mockups have been put together for the wiki over time; ideas from all of them are in what I came up with: From Matt Munoz: - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiElements?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fpo-design-front.png - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiElements?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fpo-design-interior.png From Jeremy: - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2006-December/jpgpTWnCKjSjA.jpg I really like the basic layout of Jeremy's mockup, and I think something like the large, dark center banner is something we could use on a non-wiki front page. It reminds me a lot of the www.gnome.org banner space, which has been helpful for advertising events and releases for GNOME. Although I am not 100% happy with the look (needs more cowbell/bling!), I do think the theme addresses some of my long time usability nags with our current theme (the placement of the account preferences always bugged me, for example). I was also looking to come up with a style that would fit in nicely on another CMS, so maybe we could use the wiki for being a wiki and have a CMS that is managed more carefully for non-contributors looking to learn more about Fedora - see the navbar in the mocks? (not in the theme yet) I figured I would send this out so more people knew about it (folks have been helping me out with it this weekend in #fedora-admin). If anybody has ideas on how to improve it (especially bling-wise :) ) let's discuss it! ~m [1] http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ThemeMarket#head-755c39b282cccb4c5bf9fad229c68825cc5ef3df From tux_mints at yahoo.com Mon Mar 26 01:14:10 2007 From: tux_mints at yahoo.com (craig thomas) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wiki slownessThat In-Reply-To: <4606DF27.9020808@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <658690.37185.qm@web35103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > Paul W. Frields schrieb: > >> On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 19:06 -0700, craig thomas > wrote: > >> [...] > >> I'm using this already, but I'm pretty sure it's > not drilling down to > >> the level you guys are talking about: > >> > >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RecentChanges?action=rss_rc&ddiffs=1&unique=1 > Ah, so the RFE and patch look like they made it in.... > > Agreed -- the diffs moin moin sends out make it > easy to follow what > > chaning; having only this rss feed would make it > much harder. :-( I agree too, that is very hard to determine what has actually changed.... I was talking about providing the _current_ content of the e-mail (the diff) via an RSS feed...the _exact_ same diff (and just to avoid the slowness of subscribe to page). Something like: link to page in question with name/url and then the diff for that page... followed by the next page and it's diff. ...per project or wiki namespace or whatever it's called. Not just links to a changed page with a 'diff-like' CSS markup. I'm just trying to help solve the slowness of the current subscribe to page feature...and thought RSS was a reasonable solution...we can obviously determine the content/format of the RSS feed...or not :) and just decide something else works better... Cheers, -- Craig ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 From dimitris at glezos.com Mon Mar 26 02:03:38 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 03:03:38 +0100 Subject: Patch to move wiki button bar below text area Message-ID: <460729FA.6050809@glezos.com> Attaching a patch for Moin to move the wiki edit buttons under the comments, something some users have asked for. Of course this messes with the actual Moin code and will be re-written in case of an upgrade. Nevertheless, it might be worth it (besides, if we don't apply the patch after the upgrade, nothing breaks really). I've also created an upstream RFE: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests/MoveButtonBarBelowCommentBox -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PageEditor.py.diff Type: text/x-patch Size: 5235 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PageEditor.py Type: text/x-python Size: 46508 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Mar 26 03:18:31 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:18:31 -0500 Subject: Patch to move wiki button bar below text area In-Reply-To: <460729FA.6050809@glezos.com> References: <460729FA.6050809@glezos.com> Message-ID: <46073B87.6010705@redhat.com> Dimitris Glezos wrote: > Attaching a patch for Moin to move the wiki edit buttons under the comments, > something some users have asked for. > > Of course this messes with the actual Moin code and will be re-written in case > of an upgrade. Nevertheless, it might be worth it (besides, if we don't apply > the patch after the upgrade, nothing breaks really). > > I've also created an upstream RFE: > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests/MoveButtonBarBelowCommentBox > > -d > First off, I just want to say glezos is wiki-amazing :-). Beyond that I wanted to state my concerns with this patch. If we can get this incorporated upstream, I think it's great. If not my concern is ongoing maintenance. It's never a fun thing to keep a local fork up to date. I'll leave it entirely up to the websites team but I wanted to point out that there are steep requirements long term with this patch which may muck with future upgrades and I want to make sure everyone considers it for an aesthetic change. Though "not applying the patch if its broken" does kind of solve all of these concerns :-) -Mike From fedora at leemhuis.info Mon Mar 26 05:21:58 2007 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:21:58 +0200 Subject: Wiki slownessThat In-Reply-To: <4606DF27.9020808@fedoraproject.org> References: <401813.38540.qm@web35105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1174835713.25234.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4606AEA8.2080006@leemhuis.info> <4606DF27.9020808@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <46075876.3000108@leemhuis.info> On 25.03.2007 22:44, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> Paul W. Frields schrieb: >>> On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 19:06 -0700, craig thomas wrote: >>> [...] >>> I'm using this already, but I'm pretty sure it's not drilling down to >>> the level you guys are talking about: >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RecentChanges?action=rss_rc&ddiffs=1&unique=1 >> Agreed -- the diffs moin moin sends out make it easy to follow what >> chaning; having only this rss feed would make it much harder. :-( > Would rss2email in FE help? hey, I've not imported it yet ;-) Anyway, no, it would not help, as the diff is currently (see craig's mail) is not available in the feed. BTW, did anybody ask the moin moin developers for their plans? I suppose other projects hit the same bottleneck, too... CU thl From tchung at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 26 06:53:04 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:53:04 -0700 Subject: Patch to move wiki button bar below text area In-Reply-To: <46073B87.6010705@redhat.com> References: <460729FA.6050809@glezos.com> <46073B87.6010705@redhat.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703252353s284cd16bt6b266a3b118c7b84@mail.gmail.com> On 3/25/07, Mike McGrath wrote: > Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > Attaching a patch for Moin to move the wiki edit buttons under the comments, > > something some users have asked for. > > > > Of course this messes with the actual Moin code and will be re-written in case > > of an upgrade. Nevertheless, it might be worth it (besides, if we don't apply > > the patch after the upgrade, nothing breaks really). > > > > I've also created an upstream RFE: > > > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests/MoveButtonBarBelowCommentBox > > > > -d > > > First off, I just want to say glezos is wiki-amazing :-). Beyond that I > wanted to state my concerns with this patch. If we can get this > incorporated upstream, I think it's great. If not my concern is ongoing > maintenance. It's never a fun thing to keep a local fork up to date. > I'll leave it entirely up to the websites team but I wanted to point out > that there are steep requirements long term with this patch which may > muck with future upgrades and I want to make sure everyone considers it > for an aesthetic change. > > > Though "not applying the patch if its broken" does kind of solve all of > these concerns :-) > -Mike If this is the "Buttons Location" request I made in the past, I definitely prefer them at the bottom rather than at the top. I believe this is the way it was in the previous wiki. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/WikiMigration Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 26 11:12:23 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:42:23 +0530 Subject: fedora.redhat.com - the undead Message-ID: <4607AA97.7050501@fedoraproject.org> Hi directory.fedora.redhat.com is still running independently with its own wiki. We probably should move the content and redirect that to fedoraproject.org Rahul From couf at skynet.be Mon Mar 26 11:32:06 2007 From: couf at skynet.be (Bart Couvreur) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:32:06 +0200 Subject: fedora.redhat.com - the undead In-Reply-To: <4607AA97.7050501@fedoraproject.org> References: <4607AA97.7050501@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4607AF36.6060504@skynet.be> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rahul Sundaram schreef: > Hi > > directory.fedora.redhat.com is still running independently with its own > wiki. We probably should move the content and redirect that to > fedoraproject.org > > Rahul > Right and one could add: - - cvs.fedora.redhat.com - - download.fedora.redhat.com Bart - -- Bart key fingerprint: 6AAB 544D 3432 D013 776D 3602 ADB6 6B2A D93F 0F93 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGB682rbZrKtk/D5MRAmWBAJ93DyDoYSnhGl3sxQm3qy1MuzT1zACeIzLZ YENx0mCQQAd7pZrx5U2aHfs= =rK6A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Mar 26 13:29:33 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:29:33 -0500 Subject: Wiki slownessThat In-Reply-To: <46075876.3000108@leemhuis.info> References: <401813.38540.qm@web35105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1174835713.25234.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4606AEA8.2080006@leemhuis.info> <4606DF27.9020808@fedoraproject.org> <46075876.3000108@leemhuis.info> Message-ID: <4607CABD.9070509@redhat.com> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > BTW, did anybody ask the moin moin developers for their plans? I suppose > other projects hit the same bottleneck, too... > Yeah, I've talked to them a bit. Toshio is actually working with them to submit a patch. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Mar 26 13:31:05 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:31:05 -0500 Subject: fedora.redhat.com - the undead In-Reply-To: <4607AF36.6060504@skynet.be> References: <4607AA97.7050501@fedoraproject.org> <4607AF36.6060504@skynet.be> Message-ID: <4607CB19.4060708@redhat.com> Bart Couvreur wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Rahul Sundaram schreef: > >> Hi >> >> directory.fedora.redhat.com is still running independently with its own >> wiki. We probably should move the content and redirect that to >> fedoraproject.org >> >> Rahul >> >> > Right and one could add: > > - - cvs.fedora.redhat.com > - - download.fedora.redhat.com > These are all knowns and being worked on. cvs.fedoraproject.org already exists and works directory.fedoraproject.org exists but still needs work on the serverside download.fedoraproject.org works but is not download.fedora.redhat.com. Decisions still need to be made on what to do with it. -Mike From a.badger at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 17:54:09 2007 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:54:09 -0700 Subject: Wiki slownessThat In-Reply-To: <4607CABD.9070509@redhat.com> References: <401813.38540.qm@web35105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1174835713.25234.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4606AEA8.2080006@leemhuis.info> <4606DF27.9020808@fedoraproject.org> <46075876.3000108@leemhuis.info> <4607CABD.9070509@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1174931649.9602.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 08:29 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > BTW, did anybody ask the moin moin developers for their plans? I suppose > > other projects hit the same bottleneck, too... > > > Yeah, I've talked to them a bit. Toshio is actually working with them > to submit a patch. > ... but I am short of time. So if someone wants to work on this first, the basics are that we want to maintain a list of subscribed pages. One list will be per page and have all the normal subscriptions which target one specific page. The other list will be global to moin and hold all the regular expression using subscriptions. These lists only have to be updated when the user updates their subscription preferences. The Moin code will then be able to quickly assemble a list of people that are subscribed to the page from the per-page-list and sequentially trying to match the regexes. (The Moin devs tell me the current method scans every subscription request of every user to see if it matches the page that has been modified. 8000+ users of which 1000+ have subscriptions. In the new scheme we only have to sequentially scan 180+ regular expressions.) I don't think I'll be able to work on this until post-F7. 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    From kwade at redhat.com Wed Mar 28 05:53:57 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:53:57 -0700 Subject: Patch to move wiki button bar below text area In-Reply-To: <46073B87.6010705@redhat.com> References: <460729FA.6050809@glezos.com> <46073B87.6010705@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1175061237.27529.219.camel@erato.phig.org> On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 22:18 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > Beyond that I > wanted to state my concerns with this patch. If we can get this > incorporated upstream, I think it's great. If not my concern is ongoing > maintenance. It's never a fun thing to keep a local fork up to date. > I'll leave it entirely up to the websites team but I wanted to point out > that there are steep requirements long term with this patch which may > muck with future upgrades and I want to make sure everyone considers it > for an aesthetic change. If the code is reasonable to maintain, there is a good chance upstream will accept it, I think. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From kwade at redhat.com Wed Mar 28 07:34:23 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:34:23 -0700 Subject: Wiki Theme In-Reply-To: <46071AD8.7030109@redhat.com> References: <46071AD8.7030109@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1175067263.27529.240.camel@erato.phig.org> Wow, cool. On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 20:59 -0400, M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > Although I am not 100% happy with the look (needs more cowbell/bling!), > I do think the theme addresses some of my long time usability nags with > our current theme (the placement of the account preferences always > bugged me, for example). You took care of one that has long bugged me, the content getting tucked under the right nav bar. I tested a table layout, and it worked great: http://wiki.linuxgrrl.com/KarstenWade/TableTest I'm very very very happy with that look. I also like how the text wraps around the nav element, as seen here; http://wiki.linuxgrrl.com/MairinDuffy > I was also looking to come up with a style that > would fit in nicely on another CMS, so maybe we could use the wiki for > being a wiki and have a CMS that is managed more carefully for > non-contributors looking to learn more about Fedora - see the navbar in > the mocks? (not in the theme yet) +1 Yes, this design separates the Wiki-ness in a way that we can use it for multiple faces. Perhaps the Edit etc. tools can be a general tools area where the Web-app specific tools are displayed. I notice the "More Actions:" drop-down is missing; is that intentional? Perhaps it could sneak back into the right-side menu? Or does it belong with the other action tools? > I figured I would send this out so more people knew about it (folks have > been helping me out with it this weekend in #fedora-admin). If anybody > has ideas on how to improve it (especially bling-wise :) ) let's discuss it! One thing that is bothering my eyes is the way the Edit et al tools bounce when moused-over. The cool highlighting (I like) makes the other elements shift out of the way when it is activated (I don't like). The table of contents [[TableOfContents]] is a little plain/unadorned. It could use something to make it stand out just a bit. Faint border around it? I'd also like to see the sub-headers not get so much leading space. One thing I wonder ... the color of the general paragraph and header font is a medium gray. I've heard about some advantages to doing that, and it looks fine for me. I'm wondering how it looks for people with worse vision than mine. I reckon Paul Frields saw this already, and he is usually one of my bellwethers in this regard. Formatting example: http://wiki.linuxgrrl.com/KarstenWade/FormattingTest Other feature ideas ... * Use some of the banner space to display the Fedora News feed; we're going to be doing a more regular update (daily?), so the content would be fresher. * Replace the search with a fancy, AJAX search (with an elegant failure method) that searches across all Fedora websites. Maybe the fancy AJAX allows for inline filtering of searches, etc. cheers - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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    References: <460A853B.3010408@glezos.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703281132wfaafdfaqf8e2e393ba986688@mail.gmail.com> On 3/28/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > Hi. > > I noticed that the RecentChanges page of the wiki lists the last month of > changes. That's so big that my browser complains about a javascript that seems > to get stalled. I guess it ain't good for the server either. > > Maybe we should limit that page to 3 or 7 days, which is more likely the amount > of changes people would like to see there? I'd say 3, since the choice to change > it is on the top of the page. > > -d > I'd say 5 days which is one week. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Thu Mar 29 13:45:41 2007 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Matt Domsch (mdomsch)) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:45:41 -0400 Subject: web/html/Download/mirrors fedora-core-5, 1.32, 1.33 fedora-core-6, 1.26, 1.27 updates-released-fc5, 1.31, 1.32 updates-released-fc6, 1.18, 1.19 Message-ID: <200703291345.l2TDjff7017873@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: mdomsch Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/Download/mirrors In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv17850 Modified Files: fedora-core-5 fedora-core-6 updates-released-fc5 updates-released-fc6 Log Message: add ftp.is.co.za to yum lists Index: fedora-core-5 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/Download/mirrors/fedora-core-5,v retrieving revision 1.32 retrieving revision 1.33 diff -u -r1.32 -r1.33 --- fedora-core-5 24 Mar 2007 02:51:11 -0000 1.32 +++ fedora-core-5 29 Mar 2007 13:45:39 -0000 1.33 @@ -94,3 +94,4 @@ http://mirror.steadfast.net/fedora/core/5/$ARCH/os/ http://fedora.ifc.unam.mx/fedora/5/$ARCH/os/ http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/fedora/linux/core/5/$ARCH/os/ +ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/5/$ARCH/os/ Index: fedora-core-6 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/Download/mirrors/fedora-core-6,v retrieving revision 1.26 retrieving revision 1.27 diff -u -r1.26 -r1.27 --- fedora-core-6 24 Mar 2007 02:51:11 -0000 1.26 +++ fedora-core-6 29 Mar 2007 13:45:39 -0000 1.27 @@ -95,3 +95,4 @@ http://mirror.steadfast.net/fedora/core/6/$ARCH/os/ http://fedora.ifc.unam.mx/fedora/6/$ARCH/os/ http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/$ARCH/os/ +ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/6/$ARCH/os/ Index: updates-released-fc5 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/Download/mirrors/updates-released-fc5,v retrieving revision 1.31 retrieving revision 1.32 diff -u -r1.31 -r1.32 --- updates-released-fc5 24 Mar 2007 02:51:11 -0000 1.31 +++ updates-released-fc5 29 Mar 2007 13:45:39 -0000 1.32 @@ -66,3 +66,4 @@ http://mirror.steadfast.net/fedora/core/updates/5/$ARCH/ http://fedora.ifc.unam.mx/fedora/updates/5/$ARCH/ http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/5/$ARCH/ +ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/updates/5/$ARCH/ Index: updates-released-fc6 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/Download/mirrors/updates-released-fc6,v retrieving revision 1.18 retrieving revision 1.19 diff -u -r1.18 -r1.19 --- updates-released-fc6 24 Mar 2007 02:51:11 -0000 1.18 +++ updates-released-fc6 29 Mar 2007 13:45:39 -0000 1.19 @@ -68,3 +68,4 @@ http://mirror.steadfast.net/fedora/core/updates/6/$ARCH/ http://fedora.ifc.unam.mx/fedora/updates/6/$ARCH/ http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/$ARCH/ +ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/$ARCH/ From dimitris at glezos.com Thu Mar 29 14:35:11 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitrios Glezos) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:35:11 +0100 Subject: Wiki: redirection of `/Releases/7` to `/Releases/7/Schedule`? Message-ID: <460BCE9F.8010707@glezos.com> Hey all. The following is a normal wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/ If you remove the trailing slash you get redirected to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/Schedule instead of the first page. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From a.badger at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 16:42:45 2007 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:42:45 -0700 Subject: Wiki: redirection of `/Releases/7` to `/Releases/7/Schedule`? In-Reply-To: <460BCE9F.8010707@glezos.com> References: <460BCE9F.8010707@glezos.com> Message-ID: <1175186565.16564.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 15:35 +0100, Dimitrios Glezos wrote: > Hey all. > > The following is a normal wiki page: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/ > > If you remove the trailing slash you get redirected to: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/Schedule > > instead of the first page. > Yesterday the wiki experienced a couple load spikes that brought everything to a standstill. Mike diagnosed that the Include() on that page was causing the problem. To get us back up and running, the redirect was enabled so people hitting http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7 would be sent to a static page instead of one with Include(). I'm not sure what the long term plan is. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 29 17:33:26 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:33:26 -0700 Subject: Wiki: redirection of `/Releases/7` to `/Releases/7/Schedule`? In-Reply-To: <1175186565.16564.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <460BCE9F.8010707@glezos.com> <1175186565.16564.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703291033r40aad68bp8ff1feef861ca653@mail.gmail.com> On 3/29/07, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 15:35 +0100, Dimitrios Glezos wrote: > > Hey all. > > > > The following is a normal wiki page: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/ > > > > If you remove the trailing slash you get redirected to: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/Schedule > > > > instead of the first page. > > > Yesterday the wiki experienced a couple load spikes that brought > everything to a standstill. Mike diagnosed that the Include() on that > page was causing the problem. To get us back up and running, the > redirect was enabled so people hitting > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7 > would be sent to a static page instead of one with Include(). > > I'm not sure what the long term plan is. > > -Toshio I would suggest we avoid using [[Include(CategoryFedora7Features)]] from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/Features Instead, we should create a page with static links to avoid this type of system overload. I'll create a new page Releases/7/FeatureList with static links then redirect from Releases/7/Features Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 29 17:50:37 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:50:37 -0700 Subject: Wiki: redirection of `/Releases/7` to `/Releases/7/Schedule`? In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703291033r40aad68bp8ff1feef861ca653@mail.gmail.com> References: <460BCE9F.8010707@glezos.com> <1175186565.16564.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <369bce3b0703291033r40aad68bp8ff1feef861ca653@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703291050p7f40e6c8n67abb523f2025a43@mail.gmail.com> On 3/29/07, Thomas Chung wrote: > On 3/29/07, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 15:35 +0100, Dimitrios Glezos wrote: > > > Hey all. > > > > > > The following is a normal wiki page: > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/ > > > > > > If you remove the trailing slash you get redirected to: > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/Schedule > > > > > > instead of the first page. > > > > > Yesterday the wiki experienced a couple load spikes that brought > > everything to a standstill. Mike diagnosed that the Include() on that > > page was causing the problem. To get us back up and running, the > > redirect was enabled so people hitting > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7 > > would be sent to a static page instead of one with Include(). > > > > I'm not sure what the long term plan is. > > > > -Toshio > > I would suggest we avoid using [[Include(CategoryFedora7Features)]] from > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/Features > Instead, we should create a page with static links to avoid this type > of system overload. > > I'll create a new page Releases/7/FeatureList with static links then > redirect from Releases/7/Features Ok, the static page is ready http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/FeatureList Dimitrios, can you restore Releases/7/ page back so I can point to Release/7/FeatureList ? Once, this is done, we can redirect Release/7/Features to Release/7/FeatureList Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From dimitris at glezos.com Thu Mar 29 18:44:32 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:44:32 +0100 Subject: Wiki: redirection of `/Releases/7` to `/Releases/7/Schedule`? In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703291050p7f40e6c8n67abb523f2025a43@mail.gmail.com> References: <460BCE9F.8010707@glezos.com> <1175186565.16564.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <369bce3b0703291033r40aad68bp8ff1feef861ca653@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703291050p7f40e6c8n67abb523f2025a43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <460C0910.5090606@glezos.com> O/H Thomas Chung ??????: >> I would suggest we avoid using [[Include(CategoryFedora7Features)]] from >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/Features >> Instead, we should create a page with static links to avoid this type >> of system overload. >> >> I'll create a new page Releases/7/FeatureList with static links then >> redirect from Releases/7/Features > > > Ok, the static page is ready > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/FeatureList Good job Thomas. I too noticed some delays with this auto-category thing but just didn't stepped forward to fix it. > Dimitrios, can you restore Releases/7/ page back so I can point to > Release/7/FeatureList ? > Once, this is done, we can redirect Release/7/Features to > Release/7/FeatureList Unfortunately I can't do that. Toshio, Mike? -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 29 18:55:28 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:55:28 -0700 Subject: Wiki: redirection of `/Releases/7` to `/Releases/7/Schedule`? In-Reply-To: <460C0910.5090606@glezos.com> References: <460BCE9F.8010707@glezos.com> <1175186565.16564.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <369bce3b0703291033r40aad68bp8ff1feef861ca653@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703291050p7f40e6c8n67abb523f2025a43@mail.gmail.com> <460C0910.5090606@glezos.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703291155p20d468a7n9fc407994b4f3126@mail.gmail.com> On 3/29/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > Good job Thomas. I too noticed some delays with this auto-category thing but > just didn't stepped forward to fix it. > > > Dimitrios, can you restore Releases/7/ page back so I can point to > > Release/7/FeatureList ? > > Once, this is done, we can redirect Release/7/Features to > > Release/7/FeatureList > > Unfortunately I can't do that. Toshio, Mike? > > -d I remember seeing a message from Max that he and Mike will be at Red Hat Summit prep event on this Thursday and Friday. So we might not hear from them for a while. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Mar 29 22:07:55 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:07:55 -0500 Subject: Wiki: redirection of `/Releases/7` to `/Releases/7/Schedule`? In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703291155p20d468a7n9fc407994b4f3126@mail.gmail.com> References: <460BCE9F.8010707@glezos.com> <1175186565.16564.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <369bce3b0703291033r40aad68bp8ff1feef861ca653@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703291050p7f40e6c8n67abb523f2025a43@mail.gmail.com> <460C0910.5090606@glezos.com> <369bce3b0703291155p20d468a7n9fc407994b4f3126@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <460C38BB.1050602@redhat.com> Thomas Chung wrote: > On 3/29/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: >> Good job Thomas. I too noticed some delays with this auto-category >> thing but >> just didn't stepped forward to fix it. >> >> > Dimitrios, can you restore Releases/7/ page back so I can point to >> > Release/7/FeatureList ? >> > Once, this is done, we can redirect Release/7/Features to >> > Release/7/FeatureList >> >> Unfortunately I can't do that. Toshio, Mike? >> >> -d > > I remember seeing a message from Max that he and Mike will be at Red > Hat Summit prep event on this Thursday and Friday. So we might not > hear from them for a while. > Regards, This page actually was DOSing the wiki because of a dynamic list. I had forced a redirect to /Schedule. I've replaced the dynamic list with a static one. I'm looking to disable all dynamic lists of this kind on the wiki so this doesn't happen in the future. Hopefully this won't destroy too much but the size of our wiki just won't allow us to do these things anymore with Moin (without a patch or some such thing) -Mike From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 29 22:10:44 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:10:44 -0700 Subject: Wiki: redirection of `/Releases/7` to `/Releases/7/Schedule`? In-Reply-To: <460C38BB.1050602@redhat.com> References: <460BCE9F.8010707@glezos.com> <1175186565.16564.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <369bce3b0703291033r40aad68bp8ff1feef861ca653@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703291050p7f40e6c8n67abb523f2025a43@mail.gmail.com> <460C0910.5090606@glezos.com> <369bce3b0703291155p20d468a7n9fc407994b4f3126@mail.gmail.com> <460C38BB.1050602@redhat.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703291510u6955dae4h297013215cb7668d@mail.gmail.com> On 3/29/07, Mike McGrath wrote: > This page actually was DOSing the wiki because of a dynamic list. I had > forced a redirect to /Schedule. I've replaced the dynamic list with a > static one. I'm looking to disable all dynamic lists of this kind on > the wiki so this doesn't happen in the future. > > Hopefully this won't destroy too much but the size of our wiki just > won't allow us to do these things anymore with Moin (without a patch or > some such thing) > > -Mike > Thank you Mike, I just updated to point to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/FeatureList Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 29 22:15:27 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:15:27 -0700 Subject: Wiki: redirection of `/Releases/7` to `/Releases/7/Schedule`? In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703291510u6955dae4h297013215cb7668d@mail.gmail.com> References: <460BCE9F.8010707@glezos.com> <1175186565.16564.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <369bce3b0703291033r40aad68bp8ff1feef861ca653@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703291050p7f40e6c8n67abb523f2025a43@mail.gmail.com> <460C0910.5090606@glezos.com> <369bce3b0703291155p20d468a7n9fc407994b4f3126@mail.gmail.com> <460C38BB.1050602@redhat.com> <369bce3b0703291510u6955dae4h297013215cb7668d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703291515u64b237b7o2c46eb5d3fee88fc@mail.gmail.com> On 3/29/07, Thomas Chung wrote: > On 3/29/07, Mike McGrath wrote: > > This page actually was DOSing the wiki because of a dynamic list. I had > > forced a redirect to /Schedule. I've replaced the dynamic list with a > > static one. I'm looking to disable all dynamic lists of this kind on > > the wiki so this doesn't happen in the future. > > > > Hopefully this won't destroy too much but the size of our wiki just > > won't allow us to do these things anymore with Moin (without a patch or > > some such thing) > > > > -Mike > > > > Thank you Mike, > I just updated to point to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/FeatureList Also Releases/7/Features has been redirected to Releases/7/FeatureList Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From kwade at redhat.com Fri Mar 30 19:40:19 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:40:19 -0700 Subject: Wiki Theme In-Reply-To: <1175067263.27529.240.camel@erato.phig.org> References: <46071AD8.7030109@redhat.com> <1175067263.27529.240.camel@erato.phig.org> Message-ID: <1175283619.3298.119.camel@erato.phig.org> On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 00:34 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote: > The table of contents [[TableOfContents]] is a little plain/unadorned. > It could use something to make it stand out just a bit. Faint border > around it? I'd also like to see the sub-headers not get so much leading > space. BTW, as a comparison, I have come to think that the current style in the Wiki for a ToC is a little much. The background image forces a width to the table that doesn't flow as well. For example, I put it on the right in this situation so the image would push under the navbar. Otherwise, put on the left, it forces the image to be pushed to the right: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KarstenWade - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Anonymous) -- From dimitris at glezos.com Sat Mar 31 23:15:38 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 00:15:38 +0100 Subject: Patch to move wiki button bar below text area In-Reply-To: <1175061237.27529.219.camel@erato.phig.org> References: <460729FA.6050809@glezos.com> <46073B87.6010705@redhat.com> <1175061237.27529.219.camel@erato.phig.org> Message-ID: <460EEB9A.3030305@glezos.com> O/H Karsten Wade ??????: > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 22:18 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: >> Beyond that I >> wanted to state my concerns with this patch. If we can get this >> incorporated upstream, I think it's great. If not my concern is ongoing >> maintenance. It's never a fun thing to keep a local fork up to date. >> I'll leave it entirely up to the websites team but I wanted to point out >> that there are steep requirements long term with this patch which may >> muck with future upgrades and I want to make sure everyone considers it >> for an aesthetic change. > > If the code is reasonable to maintain, there is a good chance upstream > will accept it, I think. Upstream discussion takes place here: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests/MoveButtonBarBelowCommentBox We seem to disagree on what produces higher accessibility. Nevertheless, I will follow the discussion. I would like to apply the patch and re-discuss it (if needed) when we upgrade. The patch is harmless and easily re-coded if upstream code changes. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --